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Title: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on January 07, 2020, 12:18:22 AM
Teams

Donegal
Dublin
Galway
Kerry
Mayo
Meath
Monaghan
Tyrone

3 weeks to go till it starts off. We have Tyrone in Omagh first. It’s a really big game for us as we will need to pick up every point we can to stay up. We will need all guns blazing in the first game. We have a good number of newcomers from the underage ranks coming through like Matthew Costello, Shane Walsh, Brian Conlon and David Toner as well the return of a few seasoned campaigners from the O’Dowd era such as the Wallace brothers, Donal Lenihan, and Ronan Jones. Óisín O’Brien is another new addition to the squad though he’s in his late twenties.

We have a few injuries ahead of this game which are concerning though. We are without Mickey Newman, Paraic Harnan and possibly Lenihan who had only just rejoined the squad. There might be others on the injured list but I’m not sure.

Obviously the big talking point in Tyrone is the loss of McShane this week which certainly helps us. That aside though how fired up would Tyrone be for the league in reality?

Other first round games

Kerry vs Dublin
Mayo vs Donegal
Galway vs Monaghan
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on January 07, 2020, 09:06:02 AM
How has Oisin O Brien been doing for ye?
He’s from around my area in Galway
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on January 07, 2020, 11:47:27 AM
He only came on in the last O’Byrne Cup game in the second half. But he must be doing something right to get a call up so late on in his career. Was minor in 2007 the last time he played for Galway?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on January 07, 2020, 12:26:22 PM
We have donegal away and Dublin at home first two games , unless we can manage something from them two games,  you’d imagine we are in deep s h I t . Seems to be a lot of same faces for 2020 from what ya can gather from challenge games . It’s hard to know where we are heading tbh , sometimes you’re thinking , great,  load of promising players coming up and then ye get the feeling it’s going to be Higgins, Barrett and boyler again, Not that there is anything wrong with them absolute legends of mayo football but they are getting on now and losing sharpness year on year , but what can you do if they are still better than the wans coming up or is there a point where you have to take the hit and give them the experience , love to see Cathal Horan given a run (I believe he’s got the stuff )

Midfield we have a found a gem in Mattie Ruane , Tom P will be interesting to see where he is at , could still do with finding another at least . Is seamie togging this year or has he retired ?

Few forwards coming through it seems , Carr has a year under his belt now , Reape and Diskin need to show more of the potential they have if given a run, Tracey and Fionn mcdonagh also have a years senior training now .  Ryan o Donoghue is really promising if he keeps it together , I like Jordan Flynn also , he has fire in the belly .  I’d be disappointed if Conor diskin isn’t on the panel , he’s a big unit and shows well , you could vision him developing into a right good county player .( could be another one though with the aul discipline issues )

Overall should be a decent year 2 of rebuilding , I’d expect us to be a right good side in 2021/22 , it’s important we keep playing division one though throughout the rebuild .I don’t believe it’s any benefit at all to play outside division one .

Verdict on Mayo , stay up just about .  Tyrone to win it . Meath and Galway to be relegated cause I dislike them the most out of the others available.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 07, 2020, 02:51:44 PM
Galway could do with winning their first home league match against Monaghan as two very tough away matches against Kerry and Donegal are to follow.
That said I wouldn't like to predict any matches or make snap judgements based on the performances and results from the very early rounds, teams could be at very different levels depending on training schedules, player availability etc.
Interested to see the composition of both the Galway team and the squad for this league particularly with new management in place, it's best time of the year for being optimistic anyway as there's no concrete evidence out there yet to puncture the hopes for 2020!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on January 07, 2020, 04:20:27 PM
He only came on in the last O’Byrne Cup game in the second half. But he must be doing something right to get a call up so late on in his career. Was minor in 2007 the last time he played for Galway?
Well he only transferred from his club in Galway to Navan O'Mahoneys for the 2019 season so this is really realistically the first year he would have been on the radar of football people in Meath.
He definitely played FBD (our equivalent of your O'Byrne cup) for the seniors in later years but I don't think he made any NFL or championship squad. He was a very decent club player but I don't think he is quite good enough for senior county personally.
Good luck to him though.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Hound on January 07, 2020, 04:43:26 PM
Triple bill in Croke Park it seems:

Saturday January 25

AIB All Ireland Junior Club Football Final
Kilmaine (Mayo) or Na Gaeil (Kerry) v Rathgarogue-Cushinstown (Wexford) or Blackhill (Monaghan), Croke Park, 3.15pm

AIB All Ireland Intermediate Club Football Final
Oughterard (Galway) or Templenoe (Kerry) v Mattock Rangers (Louth) or Magheracloone (Monaghan), Croke Park, 5.15pm

National Football League Division 1
Dublin v Kerry, Croke Park, 7.15pm
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: seafoid on January 08, 2020, 10:00:10 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/finnerty-looking-forward-to-good-year-with-galway-under-legendary-joyce-1.4133227
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: seafoid on January 08, 2020, 10:24:43 AM
2 questions for me are :

Will Monaghan improve or be as poor as last year?
Will the Dubs be arsed, because they weren't last year .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on January 09, 2020, 01:12:06 PM
Dubs under Dessie could go either way. I would imagine there would be lads out to earn their place but might not lend to a cohesive team performance. Monaghan might be in a similar position but they’ll always be tough to beat.

Meath will be treating this like championship but I’m not sure if we’ll have a strong enough squad to see it through but I shouldn’t write us off just yet.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Hound on January 10, 2020, 04:14:40 PM
Dubs under Dessie could go either way. I would imagine there would be lads out to earn their place but might not lend to a cohesive team performance. Monaghan might be in a similar position but they’ll always be tough to beat.

Meath will be treating this like championship but I’m not sure if we’ll have a strong enough squad to see it through but I shouldn’t write us off just yet.
Jack McCaffrey had a good interview on OTB this week.

He said that the announcement by Gavin caught everyone off guard. But the players met up to reminisce about the Gavin times and by the end they were all pretty excited and determined about 2020.

Interestingly, he’ll be working in a hospital in Kilkenny from February for 6 months so will have to deal with a commute for training/matches that so many non-Dubs have to deal with. Of course, Dub-KK is far from the worst commute going.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 10, 2020, 04:33:16 PM
2 questions for me are :

Will Monaghan improve or be as poor as last year?
Will the Dubs be arsed, because they weren't last year .
Monaghan would have been relegated last year only for a push and a dive in the Tyrone v Roscommon game.

I think they will go down, probably with Meath or Galway
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on January 10, 2020, 11:33:47 PM
Do the same special rules apply for the League this year, the sin bin & the mark?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Eire90 on January 11, 2020, 06:21:15 AM
The dubs should take it seriously the league is just as good as the all ireland if you look at it competitively. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Eire90 on January 11, 2020, 06:25:37 AM
Id have a semi final between 2nd and 3rd  less chance of day rubbers in final games if you do that it rewards the team top of league with a bye to final too.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on January 11, 2020, 05:25:10 PM
2 questions for me are :

Will Monaghan improve or be as poor as last year?
Will the Dubs be arsed, because they weren't last year .
Monaghan would have been relegated last year only for a push and a dive in the Tyrone v Roscommon game.

I think they will go down, probably with Meath or Galway

Roscommon discipline cost them. Nothing to do with Tyrone
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on January 11, 2020, 08:02:03 PM
Dubs under Dessie could go either way. I would imagine there would be lads out to earn their place but might not lend to a cohesive team performance. Monaghan might be in a similar position but they’ll always be tough to beat.

Meath will be treating this like championship but I’m not sure if we’ll have a strong enough squad to see it through but I shouldn’t write us off just yet.
Jack McCaffrey had a good interview on OTB this week.

He said that the announcement by Gavin caught everyone off guard. But the players met up to reminisce about the Gavin times and by the end they were all pretty excited and determined about 2020.

Interestingly, he’ll be working in a hospital in Kilkenny from February for 6 months so will have to deal with a commute for training/matches that so many non-Dubs have to deal with. Of course, Dub-KK is far from the worst commute going.

I’d be more concerned about his career going forward. It didn’t sound like he’s going to keep county football up for that many more years. The pressure is going to increase from work and to earn a place on the panel.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on January 17, 2020, 02:31:51 PM
Massive blow to Meaths chances of staying up with the news that Mickey Newman has been ruled out of  the Division 1 campaign with a hip injury.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on January 18, 2020, 12:01:00 PM
Yeah although Brennan, Walsh and Lenihan are able to take over on free taking but Newman was key to getting us promoted in terms of how he was able to bring others into the game. Similarly having Reilly to come off the bench last year helped. But in Division 1 i guess you need a bit more than that. We’ll have a very young team out against Tyrone. Seamus Lavin, Pauric Harnan and Ethan Devine will all miss the Tyrone game as well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 21, 2020, 11:39:13 PM
Galway team v Monaghan

Connor Gleeson (Dunmore MacHales)
Johnny Duane (St James)
Sean Mulkerrin (Oileain Arann)
Johnny Heaney (Killanin)
Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
John Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Cillian McDaid (Monivea Abbey)
Tom Flynn (Athenry)
Cein D'Arcy (Caherlistrane)
Michael Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Paul Conroy (St James)
Mikey Boyle (Killererin)
Robert Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin-Clonberne)
Adrian Varley (Cortoon Shamrocks)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 22, 2020, 11:28:02 AM
Kieran Molloy finally got a hair cut.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 22, 2020, 11:52:01 AM
Happy new year, fellow Division oneians. Hard to know how Mayo will do, a lot depends on the first two games. Donegal will be well up for the game in Ballybofey after what happened there the last time both counties faced each other and indeed last summer's one when we dumped them out of the championship against the head. Mayo have never won in Donegal either and it's hard to see that unwanted record to be broken on Saturday evening.

The second one is in Castlebar v the Dubs.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: mouview on January 22, 2020, 01:10:07 PM
Galway team v Monaghan

Connor Gleeson (Dunmore MacHales)
Johnny Duane (St James)
Sean Mulkerrin (Oileain Arann)
Johnny Heaney (Killanin)
Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
John Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Cillian McDaid (Monivea Abbey)
Tom Flynn (Athenry)
Cein D'Arcy (Caherlistrane)
Michael Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Paul Conroy (St James)
Mikey Boyle (Killererin)
Robert Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin-Clonberne)
Adrian Varley (Cortoon Shamrocks)

Not too bad, and picked mainly on current form. No harm to give Gleeson another run to see what's he made of in a proper competitive game. Ditto Mulkerrin and D'arcy. HB line has to start producing the goods. Boyle not good enough and Ml. Daly has to stop going missing in games. With a fair wind behind PJ and against weakened opposition with a new/returning manager also a home win should be well achievable.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: MayoBuck on January 22, 2020, 09:58:05 PM
Mayo starting 15 for Saturday...

The team named will see four players making their league debuts. They are Oisin Mullin, Jordan Flynn, Bryan Walsh & Ryan O'Donoghue.

1. David Clarke - Ballina Stepenites
2. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Colm Boyle - Davitts
5. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Tom Parsons - Charlestown
9. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
10. Bryan Walsh - Ballintubber
11. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
12. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
13. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. James Carr - Ardagh
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 22, 2020, 10:10:48 PM
Mayo starting 15 for Saturday...

The team named will see four players making their league debuts. They are Oisin Mullin, Jordan Flynn, Bryan Walsh & Ryan O'Donoghue.

1. David Clarke - Ballina Stepenites
2. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Colm Boyle - Davitts
5. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Tom Parsons - Charlestown
9. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
10. Bryan Walsh - Ballintubber
11. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
12. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
13. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. James Carr - Ardagh

I reckon if that team starts, Coen will move to fb, Harrison to corner back and Boyle to 6. Inexperienced enough full forward line, but they have to start somewhere.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on January 22, 2020, 10:12:11 PM
Mayo starting 15 for Saturday...

The team named will see four players making their league debuts. They are Oisin Mullin, Jordan Flynn, Bryan Walsh & Ryan O'Donoghue.

1. David Clarke - Ballina Stepenites
2. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Colm Boyle - Davitts
5. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Tom Parsons - Charlestown
9. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
10. Bryan Walsh - Ballintubber
11. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
12. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
13. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. James Carr - Ardagh

Decent enough side although fairly inexperienced (7 starters from the Dublin game I think?)

Looking forward to it all starting again
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: MayoBuck on January 22, 2020, 10:21:21 PM
Mayo starting 15 for Saturday...

The team named will see four players making their league debuts. They are Oisin Mullin, Jordan Flynn, Bryan Walsh & Ryan O'Donoghue.

1. David Clarke - Ballina Stepenites
2. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Colm Boyle - Davitts
5. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Tom Parsons - Charlestown
9. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
10. Bryan Walsh - Ballintubber
11. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
12. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
13. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. James Carr - Ardagh

Decent enough side although fairly inexperienced (7 starters from the Dublin game I think?)

Looking forward to it all starting again

6 by my count. Clarke didn't play that game while Parsons only came off the bench.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on January 22, 2020, 11:14:11 PM
Mayo starting 15 for Saturday...

The team named will see four players making their league debuts. They are Oisin Mullin, Jordan Flynn, Bryan Walsh & Ryan O'Donoghue.

1. David Clarke - Ballina Stepenites
2. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Colm Boyle - Davitts
5. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Tom Parsons - Charlestown
9. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
10. Bryan Walsh - Ballintubber
11. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
12. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
13. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. James Carr - Ardagh

Decent enough side although fairly inexperienced (7 starters from the Dublin game I think?)

Looking forward to it all starting again

6 by my count. Clarke didn't play that game while Parsons only came off the bench.

Forgot about Clarke not starting
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on January 22, 2020, 11:35:49 PM
Galway team v Monaghan

Connor Gleeson (Dunmore MacHales)
Johnny Duane (St James)
Sean Mulkerrin (Oileain Arann)
Johnny Heaney (Killanin)
Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
John Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Cillian McDaid (Monivea Abbey)
Tom Flynn (Athenry)
Cein D'Arcy (Caherlistrane)
Michael Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Paul Conroy (St James)
Mikey Boyle (Killererin)
Robert Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin-Clonberne)
Adrian Varley (Cortoon Shamrocks)

Not too bad, and picked mainly on current form. No harm to give Gleeson another run to see what's he made of in a proper competitive game. Ditto Mulkerrin and D'arcy. HB line has to start producing the goods. Boyle not good enough and Ml. Daly has to stop going missing in games. With a fair wind behind PJ and against weakened opposition with a new/returning manager also a home win should be well achievable.
Galway will have a task on hand to overcome a grizzled, McKenna cup boot camp, hardened Monaghan.
 
             Rory Beggan;
Kieran Duffy, Drew Wylie, Conor Boyle;
Ryan McAnespie, Ryan Wylie, Karl O’Connell;
      Darren Hughes, Niall Kearns;
Kieran Hughes, Micheál Bannigan, Dessie Ward;
Conor McCarthy, Jack McCarron, Dermot Malone
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: seafoid on January 23, 2020, 09:31:41 AM
Boot camp etc but no McManus.
Worth a few points to Galway surely.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 23, 2020, 11:19:22 AM
Thats a very strong Monaghan team, how many of them played in the Tyrone game? Don't think there was too many.



Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 23, 2020, 01:50:35 PM
Monaghan team is about as strong as they could have named bar McManus, this is huge test for a Galway team with 4 league debutants.
That said, this is a home match that Galway simply must get a positive result from, with very tricky away trips to Kerry and Donegal to follow, we don't want to reach Round 4 of the league pointless.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 23, 2020, 01:55:36 PM
Monaghan team is about as strong as they could have named bar McManus, this is huge test for a Galway team with 4 league debutants.
That said, this is a home match that Galway simply must get a positive result from, with very tricky away trips to Kerry and Donegal to follow, we don't want to reach Round 4 of the league pointless.

Forecast is for wet and breezy on Sunday too unfortunately.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: seafoid on January 23, 2020, 03:41:01 PM
Monaghan might be less motivated with Cavan below in Division 2.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on January 23, 2020, 04:01:06 PM
Thats a very strong Monaghan team, how many of them played in the Tyrone game? Don't think there was too many.
Maybe 6 started and 5 came on at ht and later.
Resting McManus is welcome, aside from that Banty has put all hands to the pump. But no worries for Galway, all predictions here are that Monaghan are doomed before a ball is kicked in anger :)



Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 23, 2020, 06:29:59 PM
Won't know for a few rounds where teams are at. Sure I've seen Galway picked for the league final purely on the basis of the management appointment but PJ isn't out there kicking points himself.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: BennyCake on January 23, 2020, 07:22:21 PM
Galway team v Monaghan

Connor Gleeson (Dunmore MacHales)
Johnny Duane (St James)
Sean Mulkerrin (Oileain Arann)
Johnny Heaney (Killanin)
Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
John Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Cillian McDaid (Monivea Abbey)
Tom Flynn (Athenry)
Cein D'Arcy (Caherlistrane)
Michael Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Paul Conroy (St James)
Mikey Boyle (Killererin)
Robert Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin-Clonberne)
Adrian Varley (Cortoon Shamrocks)

Not too bad, and picked mainly on current form. No harm to give Gleeson another run to see what's he made of in a proper competitive game. Ditto Mulkerrin and D'arcy. HB line has to start producing the goods. Boyle not good enough and Ml. Daly has to stop going missing in games. With a fair wind behind PJ and against weakened opposition with a new/returning manager also a home win should be well achievable.
Galway will have a task on hand to overcome a grizzled, McKenna cup boot camp, hardened Monaghan.
 
             Rory Beggan;
Kieran Duffy, Drew Wylie, Conor Boyle;
Ryan McAnespie, Ryan Wylie, Karl O’Connell;
      Darren Hughes, Niall Kearns;
Kieran Hughes, Micheál Bannigan, Dessie Ward;
Conor McCarthy, Jack McCarron, Dermot Malone

Is McManus injured?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: PMG1 on January 23, 2020, 08:26:58 PM
Does anyone know if you can subscribe to Eir Sport in the north to watch the national league? It’s not part of Premier Sports any more
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on January 23, 2020, 10:30:34 PM
Galway team v Monaghan

Connor Gleeson (Dunmore MacHales)
Johnny Duane (St James)
Sean Mulkerrin (Oileain Arann)
Johnny Heaney (Killanin)
Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
John Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Cillian McDaid (Monivea Abbey)
Tom Flynn (Athenry)
Cein D'Arcy (Caherlistrane)
Michael Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Paul Conroy (St James)
Mikey Boyle (Killererin)
Robert Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin-Clonberne)
Adrian Varley (Cortoon Shamrocks)

Not too bad, and picked mainly on current form. No harm to give Gleeson another run to see what's he made of in a proper competitive game. Ditto Mulkerrin and D'arcy. HB line has to start producing the goods. Boyle not good enough and Ml. Daly has to stop going missing in games. With a fair wind behind PJ and against weakened opposition with a new/returning manager also a home win should be well achievable.
Galway will have a task on hand to overcome a grizzled, McKenna cup boot camp, hardened Monaghan.
 
             Rory Beggan;
Kieran Duffy, Drew Wylie, Conor Boyle;
Ryan McAnespie, Ryan Wylie, Karl O’Connell;
      Darren Hughes, Niall Kearns;
Kieran Hughes, Micheál Bannigan, Dessie Ward;
Conor McCarthy, Jack McCarron, Dermot Malone

Is McManus injured?
Not as far as I am aware, the issue is more to do with the evident wear and tear on his hips which apparantly benefits from a rest period.
He has a limited number of games left in his football lifespan.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: toby47 on January 24, 2020, 07:44:31 AM
Does anyone know if you can subscribe to Eir Sport in the north to watch the national league? It’s not part of Premier Sports any more

Get yourself a chipped firestick, men do them for £50.

Well that's what I've had the past few years anyway ;)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on January 24, 2020, 02:40:57 PM
Odds for topping winning the league:

Dublin 11/8
Kerry 3/1
Donegal 7/1
Mayo 8/1
Tyrone 8/1
Galway 10/1
Monaghan 16/1
Meath 50/1

To be relegated:

Meath 2/5
Monaghan 11/8
Galway 5/2
Tyrone 11/4
Mayo 3/1
Donegal 7/2
Kerry 8/1
Dublin 33/1

The bookies think Meath are a cert to go down with any one of the next 5 along with them.

Was just looking at the fixtures and Tyrone have a tough draw this year, home to Meath in the first round which presumably Meath will be fired up for and after that they have 4 away games plus home games against Dublin & Kerry.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Manning18 on January 24, 2020, 02:51:38 PM
Being a bit pedantic but always find those comments about 'bookies think things are certs' to be strange.

That 2/5 on Meath is a marginated price. If they make Meath 2/5 then given standard overrounds they make the 1/2 or so on 100% pricing, the change down to 2/5 is their margin. 1/2 means 2 times out of 3, or 67%. It's more likely than unlikely in their view but a long way from cert territory.

Picking on that point specifically which is unfair as it happens everywhere. Media say "bookies can't see X Horse beaten" when it's 10/11. When 10/11 basically means they make it a 50/50 shot to win or not
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Taylor on January 24, 2020, 03:21:58 PM
Being a bit pedantic but always find those comments about 'bookies think things are certs' to be strange.

That 2/5 on Meath is a marginated price. If they make Meath 2/5 then given standard overrounds they make the 1/2 or so on 100% pricing, the change down to 2/5 is their margin. 1/2 means 2 times out of 3, or 67%. It's more likely than unlikely in their view but a long way from cert territory.

Picking on that point specifically which is unfair as it happens everywhere. Media say "bookies can't see X Horse beaten" when it's 10/11. When 10/11 basically means they make it a 50/50 shot to win or not

You sure?
I would have assumed 4/6 is 67%?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Manning18 on January 24, 2020, 04:20:41 PM
Convert to decimal price, divide 1 by decimal to get the %. In this case (4/6), 1/1.66 = 60%.     1/2=1.5.  1/1.5 = 66.66%

For fractions, add the two fractions together and take the second number. 4/6 means 6 times out of every 10. For soemthing like 8/15 its 8+15=23. 100/23, multiplied by 15 = 65%.

Apologies for derailing the thread for those that don't give a toss about punting

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on January 24, 2020, 05:13:45 PM
Looking forward to the league finally kicking off this weekend.  A solid performance accompanied by a win would be most welcome considering our fixtures over the next couple of weeks.   Not convinced Monaghan will start as selected based on personnel used through the McKenna Cup campaign.

In terms of the overall league, I would be looking to maintain Div 1 status, find a few new players to strengthen the overall panel and especially in positions where we are quite limited, get our long-term injured players back, integrate a couple of the Corofin lads (wont be too many!) and go into the championship with a bit of confidence.  Not asking for much really I suppose!   ;D

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on January 24, 2020, 08:43:29 PM
Strong Kerry line up for tomorrow night. 11 that started in the All Ireland?

Shane Ryan; Jason Foley, Tadhg Morley, Shane Enright; Paul Murphy, Gavin Crowley, Brian O Beaglaoich; Tommy Walsh, Adrian Spillane; Gavin O’Brien, Sean O'Shea, Stephen O’Brien; James O’Donoghue, David Clifford, Paul Geaney.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 24, 2020, 09:27:25 PM
Kerry taking the league serious anyway. Almost their full side out.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: mouview on January 24, 2020, 09:52:32 PM
And not an entirely convincing one either it seems to me. Defence ok. Tommy Walsh is neither ancient nor the future. Adrian Spillane is as yet unproven. Paul Geaney not in his greatest form and JOD a long way from it. Even brilliant, Clifford is too young to be captain. They'll undoubtedly make a fool of me, but I could somehow see Cork taking them in Munster this year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on January 25, 2020, 08:33:30 AM
Meath

1. Andy Colgan

2. Robin Clarke
3. Conor McGill
4. David Toner

5. James McEntee
6. Ronan Ryan
7. Donal Keoghan

8. Bryan Menton
9. Brian Conlon

10. Ben Brennan
11. Bryan McMahon
12. Eamon Wallace

13. Cillian O’Sullivan
14. Thomas O’Reilly
15. Shane Walsh


Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on January 25, 2020, 02:14:21 PM
Dublin have named a strong team also, 10 starters from the AI final replay.

Evan Comerford
Eric Lowndes
David Byrne
Philip McMahon
James McCarthy
John Small
Eoin Murchan
Brian Fenton
Brian Howard
Niall Scully
Paul Mannion
Ciaran Kilkenny
Kevin McMamamon
Paddy Andrews
Dean Rock
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on January 25, 2020, 04:00:02 PM
Dublin have named a strong team also, 10 starters from the AI final replay.

Evan Comerford
Eric Lowndes
David Byrne
Philip McMahon
James McCarthy
John Small
Eoin Murchan
Brian Fenton
Brian Howard
Niall Scully
Paul Mannion
Ciaran Kilkenny
Kevin McMamamon
Paddy Andrews
Dean Rock

Nothing new there for Dublin.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on January 25, 2020, 05:00:03 PM
Dublin have named a strong team also, 10 starters from the AI final replay.

Evan Comerford
Eric Lowndes
David Byrne
Philip McMahon
James McCarthy
John Small
Eoin Murchan
Brian Fenton
Brian Howard
Niall Scully
Paul Mannion
Ciaran Kilkenny
Kevin McMamamon
Paddy Andrews
Dean Rock

Nothing new there for Dublin.

Jim Gavin in the last number of years always had someone new in the early rounds NFL games. New manager now and a different approach.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 25, 2020, 06:05:48 PM
Mayo starting 15 for Saturday...

The team named will see four players making their league debuts. They are Oisin Mullin, Jordan Flynn, Bryan Walsh & Ryan O'Donoghue.

1. David Clarke - Ballina Stepenites
2. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Colm Boyle - Davitts
5. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
6. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Tom Parsons - Charlestown
9. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
10. Bryan Walsh - Ballintubber
11. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
12. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
13. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. James Carr - Ardagh

The Mayo subs

R Hennelly
J Stretton
D Kenny
M Plunkett
A O'Shea
C Loftus
T Conroy
J Durcan
K McLoughlin
J McCormack
K Higgins.


Donegal team

S Patton
C Ward
N McGee
E B Gallagher
O McFadden Ferry
C O Donnell
P Brennan
C McGonagle
M Langan
D Clarke
R McHugh
J Brennan
C Thompson
M Murphy
P Mogan

Subs
M Lynch
H McFadden
E McHugh
J McKelvey
E Doherty
M Carroll
E McGettigan
B McCole
C Morrison
A McClean
C Diver
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: The Hill is Blue on January 25, 2020, 06:08:14 PM
Dublin have named a strong team also, 10 starters from the AI final replay.

Evan Comerford
Eric Lowndes
David Byrne
Philip McMahon
James McCarthy
John Small
Eoin Murchan
Brian Fenton
Brian Howard
Niall Scully
Paul Mannion
Ciaran Kilkenny
Kevin McMamamon
Paddy Andrews
Dean Rock


Come on you boys in blue....



Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 25, 2020, 06:58:57 PM
According to Oisin Mcconville this Dessie Farrell era with Dublin could turn out to be more impressive than what they achieved under Jim Gavin. Is that even possible?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on January 25, 2020, 07:02:43 PM
Is the mayo game on Eir sports or Premier or anywhere?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 25, 2020, 07:07:18 PM
Is the mayo game on Eir sports or Premier or anywhere?

Eir sport 1.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on January 25, 2020, 07:25:53 PM
Good man, thanks
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 25, 2020, 07:34:59 PM
I'd agree with BJ Padden on that James Carr goal, a point effort that dropped into the net. Mayo lead by 2 after 20 minutes
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: BennyCake on January 25, 2020, 07:41:34 PM
Tom Parsons listed to start for Mayo. Nice to see him back after his injury troubles. He’s a fine player.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on January 25, 2020, 07:44:48 PM
Donegal very wasteful here, much the better team in the last 15
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on January 25, 2020, 07:53:11 PM
HT Donegal 0-9 Mayo 1-4. A deserved lead for Donegal but have hit as many wides as scores.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 25, 2020, 07:58:41 PM
I'd agree with BJ Padden on that James Carr goal, a point effort that dropped into the net.

Commentator seemed to think he meant it. Pretty sure it was a point attempt that dropped short into the far corner of the net.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on January 25, 2020, 08:05:19 PM
Brolly the w*nker with his usual story about someone he talked to just before the game
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: yellowcard on January 25, 2020, 08:11:55 PM
Great first half between Dublin and Kerry, Cliffords goal will be the best goal you will see all weekend. Dublin then awarded a non existent penalty which the pundits failed to even comment on. Kerry are missing Moran at midfield but it could go either way this game.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: yellowcard on January 25, 2020, 08:35:46 PM
Game has got niggly since half time and Kerry have come out fired up. Plenty of needle between the sides.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on January 25, 2020, 08:47:07 PM
Durcan probably should have went for a goal there
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 25, 2020, 08:49:57 PM
Donegal probably wondering how they are not well clear by now. Leaving the door ajar.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on January 25, 2020, 08:55:53 PM
FT Donegal 0-19 Mayo 2-13. James Durcan grabs a draw for Mayo in the 8th minute of injury time. Good match and Michael Murphy MOTM with 0-8.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: From the Bunker on January 25, 2020, 08:56:42 PM
42,902 at a league game in Croker! No wonder they want to get rid of the riff-raff to a 2nd tier!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on January 25, 2020, 08:58:16 PM
Great goal. High intensity game even if the quality was lacking at times
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on January 25, 2020, 09:05:58 PM
Dublin and Kerry 1-19 each the result.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on January 25, 2020, 09:07:26 PM
The post match "analysis" is gas, completely coloured by the last kick of the game
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Carbery on January 25, 2020, 09:14:21 PM
It will be interesting to see how the CCCC deals with incidents at end of game.
Probably when it involved Dublin and Kerry no penalties.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Carbery on January 25, 2020, 09:19:00 PM
If Joe Brolly had used the same colourful language as Tomas O’Se did on RTÉ tonight he would be sacked.  Will O’Se receive the same punishment?  But then one man is fro Derry whilst the other is from Kerry.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Manning18 on January 25, 2020, 09:22:18 PM
I'd agree with BJ Padden on that James Carr goal, a point effort that dropped into the net.

Commentator seemed to think he meant it. Pretty sure it was a point attempt that dropped short into the far corner of the net.

He didn't look at the posts at all so had no idea where the keeper was, so was 100% a point attempt. Between that, the ref playing way over time, the other jammy deflected goal and all the Donegal wides, it looks as if lady luck is on Mayo's side for yet another season
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: yellowcard on January 25, 2020, 09:25:00 PM
Seems like genuine bad blood between some of the Kerry and Dublin players which is good to see. Football needs rivalries like that and the likelihood is they could meet in an All Ireland final again in September when the stakes will be higher.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: yellowcard on January 25, 2020, 09:27:23 PM
If Joe Brolly had used the same colourful language as Tomas O’Se did on RTÉ tonight he would be sacked.  Will O’Se receive the same punishment?  But then one man is fro Derry whilst the other is from Kerry.

He will be getting a memo tomorrow warning him about his behaviour! Who was the woman pundit in the middle?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Saffrongael on January 25, 2020, 09:34:48 PM
If Joe Brolly had used the same colourful language as Tomas O’Se did on RTÉ tonight he would be sacked.  Will O’Se receive the same punishment?  But then one man is fro Derry whilst the other is from Kerry.

He will be getting a memo tomorrow warning him about his behaviour! Who was the woman pundit in the middle?

The usual quota filling female that nobody has clue who it is, ridiculous tokenism from RTE the last few years
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on January 25, 2020, 09:40:04 PM
I'd agree with BJ Padden on that James Carr goal, a point effort that dropped into the net.

Commentator seemed to think he meant it. Pretty sure it was a point attempt that dropped short into the far corner of the net.

He didn't look at the posts at all so had no idea where the keeper was, so was 100% a point attempt. Between that, the ref playing way over time, the other jammy deflected goal and all the Donegal wides, it looks as if lady luck is on Mayo's side for yet another season

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on January 25, 2020, 09:58:16 PM
Good game in Croker. Thought Kerry bottled it in the last 10 minutes and lucky to draw but fair play to Ciaran Kilkenny for pulling the strings to get Dublin back in the lead. He’s Dublin’s best player in my opinion. Tommy Walsh was mostly ineffective. I thought he’d be pulled off by half time. A lot of faking of injuries by Dublin while Loundes was in the sin bin and other time wasting towards the end.

Dublin’s indiscipline was probably their biggest worry. For the most part their passing and movement was sharp and they looked to be good shape physically. The newer members of the panel probably didn’t catch too many eyes but they weren’t out of their depth either.

I doubt the CCCC will do anything about the handbags at the end. There was nothing to it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Dubh driocht on January 25, 2020, 10:07:03 PM
I disagree that there was nothing in it. There was real nastiness,  particularly from the Dubs. O'Carroll ran his studs down the Achilles of Geaney? when the Kerry forwards boot came off. Dangerous.  Then John Small was beating all round him. Should have been lined. The targeting of Clifford at the end was nasty. This is a talented 21 year old who the neutrals love to watch. Yet the Dubs lit on him at the end like Leopards on a foal. Cynical.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on January 25, 2020, 10:07:52 PM
Good game in Croker. Thought Kerry bottled it in the last 10 minutes and lucky to draw but fair play to Ciaran Kilkenny for pulling the strings to get Dublin back in the lead. He’s Dublin’s best player in my opinion. Tommy Walsh was mostly ineffective. I thought he’d be pulled off by half time. A lot of faking of injuries by Dublin while Loundes was in the sin bin and other time wasting towards the end.

Dublin’s indiscipline was probably their biggest worry. For the most part their passing and movement was sharp and they looked to be good shape physically. The newer members of the panel probably didn’t catch too many eyes but they weren’t out of their depth either.

I doubt the CCCC will do anything about the handbags at the end. There was nothing to it.

We should of win that. Referee gave us nothing but sure we wont grumble about that
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thewobbler on January 25, 2020, 10:08:42 PM
Hopefully sooner rather than later the penny will drop with RTE that a female GAA analyst has as much insight, clarity and gravitas in men’s inter county football, as pulling in someone (of either gender) from Aussie Rules to provide analysis.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on January 25, 2020, 10:11:19 PM
42,902 at a league game in Croker! No wonder they want to get rid of the riff-raff to a 2nd tier!

.if not complaining about the dubs it Kerry junior clubs. You need therapy my friend
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: yellowcard on January 25, 2020, 10:29:20 PM
Kerry tackled very hard in that second half but Philly McMahon should have seen red, whilst the incident where the Kerry lad that was sin binned wasn’t even a free kick in my book. That said Kerry seemed to go back into their shell again for the last 10 minutes plus injury time. A draw was probably the right result even if there were some poor refereeing decisions made during the game.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: BennyCake on January 25, 2020, 10:48:18 PM
If Joe Brolly had used the same colourful language as Tomas O’Se did on RTÉ tonight he would be sacked.  Will O’Se receive the same punishment?  But then one man is fro Derry whilst the other is from Kerry.

He will be getting a memo tomorrow warning him about his behaviour! Who was the woman pundit in the middle?

The usual quota filling female that nobody has clue who it is, ridiculous tokenism from RTE the last few years

They have to include the women ya know, otherwise they’ll have  the ‘burn your bra’ types attacking the RTÉ studios.

I blame that Weinstein bollix
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: From the Bunker on January 25, 2020, 10:51:27 PM
42,902 at a league game in Croker! No wonder they want to get rid of the riff-raff to a 2nd tier!

.if not complaining about the dubs it Kerry junior clubs. You need therapy my friend

I only complain about Kerry's Senior 'B' and Intermediate 'B' club teams.

Sorry if my opinions are uncomfortable for your eyes!

The Dogs on the streets in Kerry know that the hardest part of winning a club AI is winning a County title!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 25, 2020, 11:20:50 PM
I'd agree with BJ Padden on that James Carr goal, a point effort that dropped into the net.

Commentator seemed to think he meant it. Pretty sure it was a point attempt that dropped short into the far corner of the net.

He didn't look at the posts at all so had no idea where the keeper was, so was 100% a point attempt. Between that, the ref playing way over time, the other jammy deflected goal and all the Donegal wides, it looks as if lady luck is on Mayo's side for yet another season

 ;D ;D

f**k me, I  left before the goal went in. Which is rather unlike me. I just couldn't see a way back for Mayo at that late stage. Yes Carr went for a point and it dropped in. Donegal will be kicking themselves with their poor shooting and dropped balls into Clarke's hands however.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: dublin7 on January 25, 2020, 11:25:27 PM
Wow. Amazing how people missed Kerry  cynicism. Sean O'Shea shouldhave been sent off. Drove his knee into dubs player on the ground after fouling him. Cowardly cheap shot

Ref signals 6 min injury time. Dubs go in front in 7th minute. Kerry eqaulise in 9th min injury time. Only a few weeks training and Kerry need ref to get a draw.

Aaron Byrne won U21 FOTY undr Dessie and spent last fews years travelling and in US. He's going to be a quality this year for the dubs
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on January 25, 2020, 11:28:27 PM
42,902 at a league game in Croker! No wonder they want to get rid of the riff-raff to a 2nd tier!

.if not complaining about the dubs it Kerry junior clubs. You need therapy my friend

I only complain about Kerry's Senior 'B' and Intermediate 'B' club teams.

Sorry if my opinions are uncomfortable for your eyes!

The Dogs on the streets in Kerry know that the hardest part of winning a club AI is winning a County title!

There no need for your anti Kerry tripe. Concentrate on your county
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 25, 2020, 11:30:49 PM
Wow. Amazing how people missed Kerry  cynicism. Sean O'Shea shouldhave been sent off. Drove his knee into dubs player on the ground after fouling him. Cowardly cheap shot

Ref signals 6 min injury time. Dubs go in front in 7th minute. Kerry eqaulise in 9th min injury time. Only a few weeks training and Kerry need ref to get a draw.

Aaron Byrne won U21 FOTY undr Dessie and spent last fews years travelling and in US. He's going to be a quality this year for the dubs

Was he the Prince Harry lookalike? Played well alright.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: From the Bunker on January 25, 2020, 11:42:35 PM
42,902 at a league game in Croker! No wonder they want to get rid of the riff-raff to a 2nd tier!

.if not complaining about the dubs it Kerry junior clubs. You need therapy my friend

I only complain about Kerry's Senior 'B' and Intermediate 'B' club teams.

Sorry if my opinions are uncomfortable for your eyes!

The Dogs on the streets in Kerry know that the hardest part of winning a club AI is winning a County title!

There no need for your anti Kerry tripe. Concentrate on your county

There's No need to demean my comment as anti Kerry tripe, Just because it puts an asterix  in front of titles won by Kerry clubs!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: mup on January 25, 2020, 11:49:04 PM
Wow. Amazing how people missed Kerry  cynicism. Sean O'Shea shouldhave been sent off. Drove his knee into dubs player on the ground after fouling him. Cowardly cheap shot

Ref signals 6 min injury time. Dubs go in front in 7th minute. Kerry eqaulise in 9th min injury time. Only a few weeks training and Kerry need ref to get a draw.

Aaron Byrne won U21 FOTY undr Dessie and spent last fews years travelling and in US. He's going to be a quality this year for the dubs

Not like a Dublin player ever did anything like that ever. God no.

Not nice is it?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: moysider on January 25, 2020, 11:57:20 PM
Unreal result in Ballybofey.

I suppose we should be used to James Horan's selections at this stage but Donegal were handed the game from the start. 3 subs at ht says a lot. Not sure though he took off all the right lads though!

However, the newer players that can play at this level played well. Swanee was terrific. Oisín Mullin and Tommy Conroy have quality and no doubts about them. Mullin is probably ahead of where  Lee Keegan was at his age. Conroy is only 19.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: whitey on January 26, 2020, 12:05:32 AM
Wow. Amazing how people missed Kerry  cynicism. Sean O'Shea shouldhave been sent off. Drove his knee into dubs player on the ground after fouling him. Cowardly cheap shot

Ref signals 6 min injury time. Dubs go in front in 7th minute. Kerry eqaulise in 9th min injury time. Only a few weeks training and Kerry need ref to get a draw.

Aaron Byrne won U21 FOTY undr Dessie and spent last fews years travelling and in US. He's going to be a quality this year for the dubs

Not like a Dublin player ever did anything like that ever. God no.

Not nice is it?

A “Johnny Cooper Special”
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on January 26, 2020, 12:07:36 AM
Wow. Amazing how people missed Kerry  cynicism. Sean O'Shea shouldhave been sent off. Drove his knee into dubs player on the ground after fouling him. Cowardly cheap shot

Ref signals 6 min injury time. Dubs go in front in 7th minute. Kerry eqaulise in 9th min injury time. Only a few weeks training and Kerry need ref to get a draw.

Aaron Byrne won U21 FOTY undr Dessie and spent last fews years travelling and in US. He's going to be a quality this year for the dubs

Not like a Dublin player ever did anything like that ever. God no.

Not nice is it?

+1
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on January 26, 2020, 12:25:49 AM
Got chatting to some Kerry lads after the game. Their attitude was that thecref treated it like an u12 game movi g thst free up. not happy.

That said, cracking game for January
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: JoG2 on January 26, 2020, 12:38:47 AM
Wow. Amazing how people missed Kerry  cynicism. Sean O'Shea shouldhave been sent off. Drove his knee into dubs player on the ground after fouling him. Cowardly cheap shot

Ref signals 6 min injury time. Dubs go in front in 7th minute. Kerry eqaulise in 9th min injury time. Only a few weeks training and Kerry need ref to get a draw.

Aaron Byrne won U21 FOTY undr Dessie and spent last fews years travelling and in US. He's going to be a quality this year for the dubs

Re Aaron Byrne, what a serious talent. That u21 campaign a few years back, he's as good as I've seen.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Halfquarter on January 26, 2020, 01:12:26 AM
If Joe Brolly had used the same colourful language as Tomas O’Se did on RTÉ tonight he would be sacked.  Will O’Se receive the same punishment?  But then one man is fro Derry whilst the other is from Kerry.

We probably needed to hear something colourful after listening to Ciaran Kilkenny’s insipid interview. !
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Hound on January 26, 2020, 08:04:57 AM
Happy with that performance from a Dublin perspective. Better than I expected.

James O’Donoghue looking back to his old self was a big positive for Kerry.

Didn’t want to lose the game, and the leadership qualities throughout the team shone through in the last 10. Kerry though too can be very satisfied with working that equaliser.

I wasn’t sure about moving Howard out of wing forward and into midfield. But it sure looks the best alternative now.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: ballinaman on January 26, 2020, 09:52:55 AM
Unreal result in Ballybofey.

I suppose we should be used to James Horan's selections at this stage but Donegal were handed the game from the start. 3 subs at ht says a lot. Not sure though he took off all the right lads though!

However, the newer players that can play at this level played well. Swanee was terrific. Oisín Mullin and Tommy Conroy have quality and no doubts about them. Mullin is probably ahead of where  Lee Keegan was at his age. Conroy is only 19.
4 AFL clubs after Oisin Mullin , he was top performer at combine trials...
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 26, 2020, 09:57:09 AM
Unreal result in Ballybofey.

I suppose we should be used to James Horan's selections at this stage but Donegal were handed the game from the start. 3 subs at ht says a lot. Not sure though he took off all the right lads though!

However, the newer players that can play at this level played well. Swanee was terrific. Oisín Mullin and Tommy Conroy have quality and no doubts about them. Mullin is probably ahead of where  Lee Keegan was at his age. Conroy is only 19.
4 AFL clubs after Oisin Mullin , he was top performer at combine trials...
Luckily our new rules don't suit the AFL
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 26, 2020, 10:56:07 AM
Review of sorts.

Clarke, did well under the high balls dropping in. Almost gifted Donegal a goal, but as per my previous post they hit it wide. Mullen, fitted right in going to be a solid cb or hb. Harrison wasn't too bad either. Boyle - ferocious in the tackle as ever. Everything you want in a player. O'Hora, was excellent I thought. What age is he does anyone know? Coen had a decent game too, did as well as he could on Murphy. Durcan had a good few drives upfield too. Struggled at midfield big time in first half. Parsons might never fully recover from his injury. Jordan Flynn played better in the second half when moved to half forward line. I thought Bryan Walsh struggled big time and was surprised to see him coming out after half time. Diarmuid had a very good game in my opinion. Boland was ok also I think,(was behind the goal to the left of the tv screens and I thought he kicked the ball away in the first half a bit too much). His sub certainly made an impact at the end of the game. Tommy Conroy had a solid performance. Not sure if Reape was the answer to our problems. Carr scored a peach of a goal ;D.

The halftime subs definitely made an impact. It seems to be typical Horan, wait until halftime to make a sub regardless of how bad anyone's playing.

Ref was frustrating. I couldn't believe the Donegal number 5 didn't see the line after crashing the player whose name escapes me st this moment in time into the wall of the stand.

Donegal will be kicking themselves after that. They had awful wides. As Manning18 said Mayo got lucky. It's nice to have a biteen of luck for a change. Major improvement needed for the weekend ahead.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on January 26, 2020, 11:17:35 AM
Major issue now is kickouts , that hanging ball style Clarke has is foo kin brutal , it really stood out for me last night , it’s too much effort to keep chasing your own kick out . Donegal should of won handy but they were poor at shooting especially in first half . Dublin will eat us alive next week unless there is something done about kick out strategy. Mullen looks primed to be a massive county star but the Aussies are supposed to be very interested in him as someone already said . I like the cut of Conroy , he has pace and skill . Ryan o donoghue looks like he plenty of ball skills but very light frame . O hora needs a haircut and he’ll be grand . Tom P , It’s very hard to criticise such a heroic brave man but I’d have my doubts he’ll ever return to the player he was . Aido was brilliant when introduced, could see him having a brilliant year . Diarmuid was a mixed bag , I still believe he doesn’t realise his potential , still very decent though in patches last night , nice place ball kicker too , I can’t recall him taking them off the ground like that before .  Boyler still has it , simple as that , he must be putting in some yards last couple of years to maintain the standard he achieves . Carr has potential but needs to show more grit for a big man at winning ball coming in . Ruane, Cillian and Leroy will obviously add a bit when they come in , staying up would be a great achievement for where this squad is at at the moment .

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: whitey on January 26, 2020, 11:27:27 AM
“Highlights” of the game are up on YouTube....Mayos first goal is about 8 minutes in

Looks like he went for a goal
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 26, 2020, 11:38:52 AM
I'm still not convinced about Declan Bonner as Donegal manager, tactically still a little suspect and better management would have closed that game out last night.

One of Mayo's more difficult matches and a point on the board, they will be delighted and should be in the mix for a league final spot once more.

Kerry and Dublin were determined not to lose going by their strong line ups and they didn't lose. Now that game is out of the way both will likely give more of the fringe players a run out in the remaining 6 games.

Tyrone and Galway wins today or a shock or two?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2020, 12:03:28 PM
“Highlights” of the game are up on YouTube....Mayos first goal is about 8 minutes in

Looks like he went for a goal

Definite point attempt that dropped short into the far corner.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on January 26, 2020, 12:11:50 PM
“Highlights” of the game are up on YouTube....Mayos first goal is about 8 minutes in

Looks like he went for a goal

Definite point attempt that dropped short into the far corner.

You are James Carr I assume .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: whitey on January 26, 2020, 12:47:54 PM
“Highlights” of the game are up on YouTube....Mayos first goal is about 8 minutes in

Looks like he went for a goal

Definite point attempt that dropped short into the far corner.

“Dropped Short”.......he was about 10 yards from goal when he pulled the trigger
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: J70 on January 26, 2020, 12:52:56 PM
Could be a tight league for us to stay up now. We needed the points. Frustrating as it is, fluke goals and all, you have to admire Mayo for refusing to ever let Donegal beat them. Don't think we have since the 2012 All Ireland.

With our obligatory annual loss in Letterkenny sure to come at the hands of Galway, and away matches to Dublin, Tyrone, Kerry and Meath, I'll be surprised if we don't go back down. Maybe if we beat Meath and Monaghan, and scrape a point somewhere else, we'll survive, but its hard to see.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: MayoBuck on January 26, 2020, 01:39:07 PM
Nice to steal a draw last night, makes up for pissing away the Galway game 2 weeks ago. Scoreline flattered us at half-time needless to say. Donegal were cleaning up around midfield, partly due to Clarke's kickouts but also Tom Parsons being off the pace of the game. Flynn looked lost in midfield too, was much more prominent in the 2nd half when he was moved to half forward.

2nd half was much more evenly matched. Aidan O'Shea made a big difference in midfield, always seems to play well against Donegal. Conroy and Durcan made a big impact off the bench while McLoughlin took his frees well (fair play to him for continuing to take them despite his history).

Of the new lads I thought Mullin was very good, he has blistering pace. You can tell he's going to be a player considering he's only 19. Padraig O'Hora can be very happy with his showing. Flynn and O'Donoghue mixed the good with the mediocre but they deserve another shot against Dublin. Bryan Walsh didn't really get into the game apart from his well taken point. We seemed to be slipping a lot on the surface for some reason.

Our efficiency in front of goal was the biggest positive though. Watched the game back this morning and I think we only had 4 wides in the whole game and no shots dropped short (unless Carr's goal counts as one?  ;) ). We get plenty of stick when missing chances so might as well praise them this time.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: joemamas on January 26, 2020, 02:02:31 PM
Nice to steal a draw last night, makes up for pissing away the Galway game 2 weeks ago. Scoreline flattered us at half-time needless to say. Donegal were cleaning up around midfield, partly due to Clarke's kickouts but also Tom Parsons being off the pace of the game. Flynn looked lost in midfield too, was much more prominent in the 2nd half when he was moved to half forward.

2nd half was much more evenly matched. Aidan O'Shea made a big difference in midfield, always seems to play well against Donegal. Conroy and Durcan made a big impact off the bench while McLoughlin took his frees well (fair play to him for continuing to take them despite his history).

Of the new lads I thought Mullin was very good, he has blistering pace. You can tell he's going to be a player considering he's only 19. Padraig O'Hora can be very happy with his showing. Flynn and O'Donoghue mixed the good with the mediocre but they deserve another shot against Dublin. Bryan Walsh didn't really get into the game apart from his well taken point. We seemed to be slipping a lot on the surface for some reason.

Our efficiency in front of goal was the biggest positive though. Watched the game back this morning and I think we only had 4 wides in the whole game and no shots dropped short (unless Carr's goal counts as one?  ;) ). We get plenty of stick when missing chances so might as well praise them this time.

Thanks.
Good analysis.
Anyone who takes the time to rewatch before posting has to be commended
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on January 26, 2020, 02:16:46 PM
Anyone got a radio link for the Tyrone game. LMFM stream not working.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on January 26, 2020, 02:23:30 PM
Meath 1-01
Tyrone 1-01

McCurry and McMahon with the goals.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2020, 02:34:02 PM
McManus starts for Monaghan. No Tom Flynn for Galway.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on January 26, 2020, 02:41:18 PM
Meath 1-04
Tyrone 1-04
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on January 26, 2020, 02:42:43 PM
McManus starts for Monaghan. No Tom Flynn for Galway.

Why was it said all week he wouldn’t be involved ? Would not of put Galway in my accumulator if I knew .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on January 26, 2020, 02:45:51 PM
“Highlights” of the game are up on YouTube....Mayos first goal is about 8 minutes in

Looks like he went for a goal

Definite point attempt that dropped short into the far corner.

“Dropped Short”.......he was about 10 yards from goal when he pulled the trigger
It still dropped short.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on January 26, 2020, 02:47:57 PM
“Highlights” of the game are up on YouTube....Mayos first goal is about 8 minutes in

Looks like he went for a goal

Definite point attempt that dropped short into the far corner.

“Dropped Short”.......he was about 10 yards from goal when he pulled the trigger
It still dropped short.

Perhaps it didn’t drop short and he was going for goal .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on January 26, 2020, 02:50:51 PM
“Highlights” of the game are up on YouTube....Mayos first goal is about 8 minutes in

Looks like he went for a goal

Definite point attempt that dropped short into the far corner.

“Dropped Short”.......he was about 10 yards from goal when he pulled the trigger
It still dropped short.

Perhaps it didn’t drop short and he was going for goal .
He wasn't though.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on January 26, 2020, 02:54:01 PM
How do you know though , it’s just an opinion really , id argue it’s in Carr’s locker that type of strike .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: straightred on January 26, 2020, 03:12:51 PM
HT Galway 1-8 Monaghan 0-8. Monaghan missed a penalty
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on January 26, 2020, 03:26:00 PM
Meath 1-06
Tyrone 1-10

Tyrone parking the bus and counter attacking. We’re not finding space up front. Not moving the all fast enough or trying to use the mark. Picked up a few more injuries before the game which hasn’t helped but not good enough so far.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on January 26, 2020, 03:38:22 PM
Meath 1-09
Tyrone 1-14

Poor stuff.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: seafoid on January 26, 2020, 03:46:05 PM
RTÉ trína chéile

37 mins

Monaghan 1-9 Galway 0-08



44 mins

Galway 1-10 Monaghan 0-09
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: straightred on January 26, 2020, 03:55:24 PM
level in salthill - sounds like a cracking game. 10 mins left
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2020, 03:56:50 PM
Maurice Deegan.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: MayoBuck on January 26, 2020, 03:57:36 PM
Maurice Deegan.

No doubt he's smiling away.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on January 26, 2020, 03:58:32 PM
Lost Galway bay fm , listening on northern sound , never heard such horrible commentators
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: straightred on January 26, 2020, 04:17:20 PM
galway won by a point. Sounded like Deegan made it all about him at the end
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Dubhaltach on January 26, 2020, 05:04:08 PM
No surprise to see refereeing issues coming up again after the weekend. Both referees last night Coldrick and Hurson are very much 'soft free' refs. Players are well aware of this and will go down when there is the slightest bit of contact. It ruins the game and forces managers to go with defensive systems because they can't allow their defenders go one on one when it's a guaranteed free in to the forward. While the likes of David Gough and Conor Lane have their flaws, at least they allow some form of a 'tackle'. Deegan is another 'soft free' merchant though I didn't see the Galway game today.

3 out of 4 of the Division one games this weekend ended with controversy over the amount of injury time allowed. This comes a week after the Corofin injury time shitshow. I'd argue that refs are often correct to keep adding on time due to rampant time wasting in the game however the whole thing could be fixed so easily, it's ridiculous at this stage. When will the clowns in the GAA just introduce the clock system that operates so well in Rugby? Players, management and spectators could then easily see exactly when the clock is stopped, how much time is left etc. and it would cut out a lot of the bullshit.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: seafoid on January 26, 2020, 05:04:08 PM
Good win for Galway. 2 points in the bag.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on January 26, 2020, 05:15:20 PM
Sounds like Galway made heavy weather with home advantage to scrape the win.


Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: twohands!!! on January 26, 2020, 05:56:21 PM
3 out of 4 of the Division one games this weekend ended with controversy over the amount of injury time allowed. This comes a week after the Corofin injury time shitshow. I'd argue that refs are often correct to keep adding on time due to rampant time wasting in the game however the whole thing could be fixed so easily, it's ridiculous at this stage. When will the clowns in the GAA just introduce the clock system that operates so well in Rugby? Players, management and spectators could then easily see exactly when the clock is stopped, how much time is left etc. and it would cut out a lot of the bullshit.

The fact that there has been literally 100s of ladies football games played with no controversy shows how wrong the GAA powers-that-be were to scrap this.

I would be hopeful that with the current black card sin-bin rule that the calls to reintroduce the hooter will eventually force the powers-that-be to bring this back.

It's only a matter of time before there's a televised game where some lad who is sinbinned who misses a tiny amount of game-time.

It's bad enough that the sin-bin rule incentivises team to slow down play/play keep-ball/pass it back to the keeper/feign injury.


Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2020, 06:05:35 PM
Curate's egg of as game in Salthill marred by a very poor display from Maurice Deegan who seemed hell bent on making the game as close and as long as possible.

Galway, bar a short spell early on, led pretty much the whole game. Difference at HT was Robert Finnerty scored a fine goal for Galway while Monaghan missed a penalty. Was a well hit penalty actually but a great save from the keeper. Confusion over the award of it as Deegan blew for a free, seemed to play advantage and then signalled a penalty almost immediately.

Galway started the 2nd half on top. Finnerty again clean through one on one with the keeper and he somehow blazed over the bar to put 5 between them. I'll be diplomatic and say the next 20 minutes Galway found it extremely difficult to get a decision from Maurice Deegan. Frees were only going one way and it gave Monaghan a foothold back into the game as they got it back to 4, 3, 2 and then 1. On a cold day I'll give Deegan this much, he got the crowd fired up anyway.

Game level with 10 or so to go. Galway edge ahead again. Have a couple of good goal chances that they again blaze over and another punched over. Monaghan have a great goal chance that beat the keeper I think and a Galway defender (Mulkerrin I think) seemed to catch it right on the line. I think a goal then would have put Monaghan ahead approaching the end of normal time.

About 10+ minutes of added time played. Multiple stoppages. Throw balls. Players down injured. I think someone ran on to give Deegan an earful at one stage in the middle of it.

McManus started for Monaghan in the end. They had a pretty strong side out. Galway obviously still missing any Corofin players and Flynn cried off before the start. By the final 10 minutes I think we had 3 or 4 U-20's from last year on the field. Mulkerrin was good again. As was John Daly. Varley again some man to show for and win ball out in front before he tired.

On the debit side if Galway are going to play more open they are going to have to track runners religiously out of defence. There is no blanket there to meet them now and Monaghan had some joy out of corner backs and wing backs sneaking up the field unmarked into space to kick scores.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on January 26, 2020, 06:35:58 PM
Maurice Deegan.
He was beyond bad.  It’s just so hard to understand his thought process when awarding frees.  We went through a sustained period in the second half where it looked like he decided we were getting no frees and it really brought Mon back into the game at time when we had pushed 5 ahead and it should have been further but sin sceal eile! A win is a win BUT an awful lot to improve on if we are to get anything out of the next 2 games, seems unlikely on the basis of what Kerry and Donegal produced last night.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on January 26, 2020, 06:41:13 PM
Maurice Deegan.
He was beyond bad.  It’s just so hard to understand his thought process when awarding frees.  We went through a sustained period in the second half where it looked like he decided we were getting no frees and it really brought Mon back into the game at time when we had pushed 5 ahead and it should have been further but sin sceal eile! A win is a win BUT an awful lot to improve on if we are to get anything out of the next 2 games, seems unlikely on the basis of what Kerry and Donegal produced last night.
Any semblance of a kick out strategy today?
I had to make do with radio coverage - but sounded like we struggled a bit around midfield?
Flynn, O Curraoin, Duggan, probably Steede and maybe Tierney to come back into that sector I guess so all is not lost.
How did the fullback line in general do?
Big step up next week.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2020, 06:56:21 PM
Maurice Deegan.
He was beyond bad.  It’s just so hard to understand his thought process when awarding frees.  We went through a sustained period in the second half where it looked like he decided we were getting no frees and it really brought Mon back into the game at time when we had pushed 5 ahead and it should have been further but sin sceal eile! A win is a win BUT an awful lot to improve on if we are to get anything out of the next 2 games, seems unlikely on the basis of what Kerry and Donegal produced last night.
Any semblance of a kick out strategy today?
I had to make do with radio coverage - but sounded like we struggled a bit around midfield?
Flynn, O Curraoin, Duggan, probably Steede and maybe Tierney to come back into that sector I guess so all is not lost.
How did the fullback line in general do?
Big step up next week.

Thought D'Arcy did alright in midfield actually but 90% of Galway's kickouts in the 2nd half were just short dinks to the spare man. Beggan is really brilliant at picking out runners. Amazing accuracy at distance so Galway couldn't really get at Monaghan's kickouts. Too much standing still at Galway kick outs. Needs to be more players making runs into space.

Mulkerrin was good again. Seems to his spot now until proven otherwise. Not sure if Duane and Heaney will be corner backs come the championships but who knows. Seems like those spots are up for grabs.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on January 26, 2020, 06:59:30 PM
Maurice Deegan.
He was beyond bad.  It’s just so hard to understand his thought process when awarding frees.  We went through a sustained period in the second half where it looked like he decided we were getting no frees and it really brought Mon back into the game at time when we had pushed 5 ahead and it should have been further but sin sceal eile! A win is a win BUT an awful lot to improve on if we are to get anything out of the next 2 games, seems unlikely on the basis of what Kerry and Donegal produced last night.
Any semblance of a kick out strategy today?
I had to make do with radio coverage - but sounded like we struggled a bit around midfield?
Flynn, O Curraoin, Duggan, probably Steede and maybe Tierney to come back into that sector I guess so all is not lost.
How did the fullback line in general do?
Big step up next week.
I’m sure there is a strategy but it’s not very well thought out or executed from what was on display today.  Anything into the middle of the field is 50:50 at best and putting them on top of a small lad like O’Laoi doesn’t make much sense either.  Mid range kick outs were not too effective either and we seemed to resort to a lot of short ones after that.  D’Arcy and Comer did field 2 great balls in either half but they were the exception.  To be honest, I think a big part of the problem is that there are zero runs being made to get on the ball for our KOs.  Mon schooled us in that dept today. A lot of work needed for sure.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on January 26, 2020, 07:14:16 PM
Maurice Deegan.
He was beyond bad.  It’s just so hard to understand his thought process when awarding frees.  We went through a sustained period in the second half where it looked like he decided we were getting no frees and it really brought Mon back into the game at time when we had pushed 5 ahead and it should have been further but sin sceal eile! A win is a win BUT an awful lot to improve on if we are to get anything out of the next 2 games, seems unlikely on the basis of what Kerry and Donegal produced last night.
Any semblance of a kick out strategy today?
I had to make do with radio coverage - but sounded like we struggled a bit around midfield?
Flynn, O Curraoin, Duggan, probably Steede and maybe Tierney to come back into that sector I guess so all is not lost.
How did the fullback line in general do?
Big step up next week.
I’m sure there is a strategy but it’s not very well thought out or executed from what was on display today.  Anything into the middle of the field is 50:50 at best and putting them on top of a small lad like O’Laoi doesn’t make much sense either.  Mid range kick outs were not too effective either and we seemed to resort to a lot of short ones after that.  D’Arcy and Comer did field 2 great balls in either half but they were the exception.  To be honest, I think a big part of the problem is that there are zero runs being made to get on the ball for our KOs.  Mon schooled us in that dept today. A lot of work needed for sure.
Kick outs were such a massive issue under KW as well.
D’Arcy not going to make that team from what I’ve seen over the past few seasons - just seems a bit short of county senior standard to me.
Interesting to see if they try Steede out.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on January 26, 2020, 07:47:13 PM
Maurice Deegan.
He was beyond bad.  It’s just so hard to understand his thought process when awarding frees.  We went through a sustained period in the second half where it looked like he decided we were getting no frees and it really brought Mon back into the game at time when we had pushed 5 ahead and it should have been further but sin sceal eile! A win is a win BUT an awful lot to improve on if we are to get anything out of the next 2 games, seems unlikely on the basis of what Kerry and Donegal produced last night.
Any semblance of a kick out strategy today?
I had to make do with radio coverage - but sounded like we struggled a bit around midfield?
Flynn, O Curraoin, Duggan, probably Steede and maybe Tierney to come back into that sector I guess so all is not lost.
How did the fullback line in general do?
Big step up next week.
I’m sure there is a strategy but it’s not very well thought out or executed from what was on display today.  Anything into the middle of the field is 50:50 at best and putting them on top of a small lad like O’Laoi doesn’t make much sense either.  Mid range kick outs were not too effective either and we seemed to resort to a lot of short ones after that.  D’Arcy and Comer did field 2 great balls in either half but they were the exception.  To be honest, I think a big part of the problem is that there are zero runs being made to get on the ball for our KOs.  Mon schooled us in that dept today. A lot of work needed for sure.
Kick outs were such a massive issue under KW as well.
D’Arcy not going to make that team from what I’ve seen over the past few seasons - just seems a bit short of county senior standard to me.
Interesting to see if they try Steede out.
Another thing that was blatantly obvious today was Monaghan’s tactic of using their runner (fella in the yellow bib) to fill space on the pitch around the 50 on almost all of our kick outs for the last 20 mins or so of today’s game.  Our sideline were very naive in not bringing it to the refs attention or at least dealing with him themselves.  It’s definitely something that needs to be clamped down on.  Sherlock for Dub was a master at it under Gavins reign. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: charlie linkbox on January 26, 2020, 08:58:07 PM
No, I can’t let this narrative go unchallenged, that Galway were somehow superior throughout and that Deegan kept Monaghan in it.

He was bad, but Monaghan felt it too. We won a free along the sideline in the second half your your selector with the orange bib encroached on the field, got involved with Kieran Hughes (he knew the right man to target anyway, I’ll give him that) and Deegan throws the ball up. Your defender (Heaney was it?) wrestles McManus to the ground as Monaghan break up the field in the second half and….. nothing. Your No. 6 lay down for a minute or two during stoppage time at the end of the game. Was the time added on?...... No.
 
Also, I’ll see your couple of goal chances (that you got points out of by the way) and I’ll raise you a missed penalty, a goal chance for Jack McCarron saved in the first half, the mark taken by Kieran Hughes on the edge of the square in the second half where he hit it on the turn and it went just wide, the chance from Christopher McGuinness at the end that was saved on the line by one of your backs……… my point being that on another day we hit two or three goals too and win the game.

It was a very even entertaining game and in my opinion Monaghan left at least one point behind us today.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 26, 2020, 09:33:37 PM
Only Round One of the league but it looks like Galway will have a huge job on to ensure they remain in Division One, could easily and maybe should have lost that match today on the balance of chances, those two points will be crucial in hopefully staying up.
I was at the Dublin-Kerry match last night as well and the difference in standard to the two teams in Salthill today was stark, I wouldn't give them a prayer in Kerry next week going by the matches this weekend. We badly need Monaghan and Meath to keep losing the rest of the way anyway.

Deegan has been highlighted here already but he was simply ridiculous in the second half. After the (by rule completely correct) black card he decided that Monaghan would need as much help as possible to even it up. Monaghan were pulling and dragging off the ball all day long, got called for it once. Galway couldn't buy a free for about twenty minutes and it took a pure dirt hit by Carey on Shane Walsh after the ball was long gone before Deegan then figured it was time to maybe play the game by rule again and Galway got a scorable free literally 20 seconds later. The injury time was definitely more than 5 minutes but if he left it to 7 minutes that would have been the maximum possible I'd have thought, the way things were going I was flabbergasted that he didn't just give Monaghan the free in after the hop ball on the 21 as it looked for all the world that he was dying to get the match to a draw.

Gleeson is clearly an excellent shot stopper, that was a good save from the penalty, and he is a much more imposing figure than the likes of Power or Lavelle between the sticks.
The most important factor is the kickout though and the jury is really out there, I'd give him a bit of a pass because the movement outside of him is nonexistent but the trajectory on his kicks is a bit too flighty as it is.
The only well worked kickout all day was when there was a load of space left in the middle and Walsh ran from the opposition half to cleanly mark it between the 45 and the 65, although I suspect this was Walsh just making the run when he saw the space rather than a designed play, either way they need to get more of this happening or Galway will be short of the Super 8s again this year. Just pumping it out and expecting Conroy, Comer and D'Arcy to pluck Hollywood catches from the skies as they each did on occasion today is a recipe for long term failure. Beggan in contrast gave a kick out masterclass at the other end, it's not all down to them but Beggan and Cluxton provide such an advantage to their respective teams in this area.

Midfield wasn't great today outside of the kickout either, Conroy hit a nice score but himself and D'Arcy are too one paced to play together and neither has the engine of Flynn, they would be killed on a faster track later in the year.

John Daly was excellent and Mulkerrin very good at FB, and they'll have to keep that up every match because we're wide open at the back and getting a lot of trouble from deep runners now without the blanket, a better team than Monaghan would have filleted Galway on several of the overlap chances they had. McDaid getting into it much more today, one terrible kick pass to no one in the first half aside.
Gary O'Donnell unsurprisingly was far better out in his usual position than he was on his brief trial in the full back line.

Boyle doesn't look up to this level at all based on his appearances to date, no surprise he was hooked straight away in the first half after another mistake when he hung around waiting for the ball to come to him and got blown out of it by the Monaghan back, you get no time for that type of play at Senior IC level.

Varley is great at getting out in front of his man as an outlet the past 3 matches in 2020 and he played well for about 45 minutes, lovely mark that he scored from in the first half that he called before he even had the ball in hand. Being ultra critical he still flubbed on 3 balls played into him in the first half that he should have absolutely controlled and made stick, given the amount of long passes Galway are now looking to play forward and the greater likelihood of losing possession as a result from this more difficult skill to execute, anything that should be caught up there simply must be.

Shane Walsh pure class again today from open play and is clearly going to be targeted by the opposition so PJ needs to do what Dublin and Kerry are old hands at by using plamas/pressure as required to get the message through to refs that he needs to be protected from sledgers on the pitch. On a less happy note he missed a right footed near gimme free off the outside of the post again. Rock and O'Shea miss nothing, he isn't in this calibre as a free taker and Galway really need someone to be.

Galway shot conversion rate went through the floor in the second half, M Daly, Brannigan and a few more missed really good opportunities after good work to put them in the position to execute. Galway have to tidy this up. Finnerty showed beautiful composure for his goal in the first half, the same was required for his point that should have been a low, hard shot to the back of the net. Didn't cost Galway today but against the best of the Division they have to be nailed.

Saw a tweet that Monaghan were denied a goal when a Galway player (assuming Gleeson or Mulkerrin, I'm trying to think back when it could have occurred) went over the line with the ball, is there any validity to that claim at all? Massive, game changing mistake by the officials if true.

Another thing that was blatantly obvious today was Monaghan’s tactic of using their runner (fella in the yellow bib) to fill space on the pitch around the 50 on almost all of our kick outs for the last 20 mins or so of today’s game.  Our sideline were very naive in not bringing it to the refs attention or at least dealing with him themselves.  It’s definitely something that needs to be clamped down on.  Sherlock for Dub was a master at it under Gavins reign. 

Huge bugbear of mine the past couple of years, the Kerry minor team runner in the semi final last year was the biggest disgrace I've seen but the Monaghan buck was doing his best to match him today.

No, I can’t let this narrative go unchallenged, that Galway were somehow superior throughout and that Deegan kept Monaghan in it.

He was bad, but Monaghan felt it too. We won a free along the sideline in the second half your your selector with the orange bib encroached on the field, got involved with Kieran Hughes (he knew the right man to target anyway, I’ll give him that) and Deegan throws the ball up. Your defender (Heaney was it?) wrestles McManus to the ground as Monaghan break up the field in the second half and….. nothing. Your No. 6 lay down for a minute or two during stoppage time at the end of the game. Was the time added on?...... No.
 
Also, I’ll see your couple of goal chances (that you got points out of by the way) and I’ll raise you a missed penalty, a goal chance for Jack McCarron saved in the first half, the mark taken by Kieran Hughes on the edge of the square in the second half where he hit it on the turn and it went just wide, the chance from Christopher McGuinness at the end that was saved on the line by one of your backs……… my point being that on another day we hit two or three goals too and win the game.

It was a very even entertaining game and in my opinion Monaghan left at least one point behind us today.


Absolutely agree that Monaghan had more than enough chances to get a result, Galway could have very easily lost today but any suggestion that Galway did better out of or broke even from Deegan's decisions over the 81 minutes is frankly absurd, he couldn't possibly have added on any more time for ye at the end either.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: straightred on January 26, 2020, 09:43:34 PM
No, I can’t let this narrative go unchallenged, that Galway were somehow superior throughout and that Deegan kept Monaghan in it.

He was bad, but Monaghan felt it too. We won a free along the sideline in the second half your your selector with the orange bib encroached on the field, got involved with Kieran Hughes (he knew the right man to target anyway, I’ll give him that) and Deegan throws the ball up. Your defender (Heaney was it?) wrestles McManus to the ground as Monaghan break up the field in the second half and….. nothing. Your No. 6 lay down for a minute or two during stoppage time at the end of the game. Was the time added on?...... No.
 
Also, I’ll see your couple of goal chances (that you got points out of by the way) and I’ll raise you a missed penalty, a goal chance for Jack McCarron saved in the first half, the mark taken by Kieran Hughes on the edge of the square in the second half where he hit it on the turn and it went just wide, the chance from Christopher McGuinness at the end that was saved on the line by one of your backs……… my point being that on another day we hit two or three goals too and win the game.

It was a very even entertaining game and in my opinion Monaghan left at least one point behind us today.

Just watched the highlights. Unclear if that monaghan shot was over the line. Didnt have a good camera angle. Speaking of the ref how did he miss the galway pulling at the 2nd half throw in. Nearly ripped the jersey off the monaghan midfielder. Galway went straight down and got a point and probably should have got a goal
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: greatpoint on January 26, 2020, 09:44:37 PM



He’s far better than Murphy already and only 21. Imagine how good he’ll be at 22.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2020, 09:55:38 PM
Saw a tweet that Monaghan were denied a goal when a Galway player (assuming Gleeson or Mulkerrin, I'm trying to think back when it could have occurred) went over the line with the ball, is there any validity to that claim at all? Massive, game changing mistake by the officials if true.

They just showed it there. Didn't look over the line anyway and the umpires couldn't have had a much better view of it. Granted they usually don't see much at the best of times.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 26, 2020, 10:00:57 PM
Seen it myself there, no possibility of knowing for sure so I think it's a bit much for any Monaghan fan to suggest it was definitely a goal.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Manning18 on January 26, 2020, 11:15:41 PM
Great write up An Fhairce, always enjoy reading them and think you're spot on with most/all written there.

@Charlie, I can definitely see the point that Monaghan missed plenty, given Mccarrons chance, the pen (was the foul, if one, not outside? Not seen it back) and the Hughes chance. Can you claim a mark from a delivery from a free though?

In saying that I thought Galway were the better team fairly comfortably. They created 5 goal chances, and more chances overall from less possessions, given the Beggan kicking exhibition. A number of easy point chances missed. Monaghan needed wonder frees from McManus and one from Beggan. I know that's to be expected with those two wonder players but in open play I thought Galway were a fair bit better. Deegan rode Galway aswel, no question about that. It was a more inexperienced Galway team also missing plenty of players, to counteract the advantage of being at home

Plenty of time added on also. 5 mins added and he played 7.40 I think. Thought it would never end
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: joemamas on January 26, 2020, 11:36:29 PM
Only Round One of the league but it looks like Galway will have a huge job on to ensure they remain in Division One, could easily and maybe should have lost that match today on the balance of chances, those two points will be crucial in hopefully staying up.
I was at the Dublin-Kerry match last night as well and the difference in standard to the two teams in Salthill today was stark, I wouldn't give them a prayer in Kerry next week going by the matches this weekend. We badly need Monaghan and Meath to keep losing the rest of the way anyway.

Deegan has been highlighted here already but he was simply ridiculous in the second half. After the (by rule completely correct) black card he decided that Monaghan would need as much help as possible to even it up. Monaghan were pulling and dragging off the ball all day long, got called for it once. Galway couldn't buy a free for about twenty minutes and it took a pure dirt hit by Carey on Shane Walsh after the ball was long gone before Deegan then figured it was time to maybe play the game by rule again and Galway got a scorable free literally 20 seconds later. The injury time was definitely more than 5 minutes but if he left it to 7 minutes that would have been the maximum possible I'd have thought, the way things were going I was flabbergasted that he didn't just give Monaghan the free in after the hop ball on the 21 as it looked for all the world that he was dying to get the match to a draw.

Gleeson is clearly an excellent shot stopper, that was a good save from the penalty, and he is a much more imposing figure than the likes of Power or Lavelle between the sticks.
The most important factor is the kickout though and the jury is really out there, I'd give him a bit of a pass because the movement outside of him is nonexistent but the trajectory on his kicks is a bit too flighty as it is.
The only well worked kickout all day was when there was a load of space left in the middle and Walsh ran from the opposition half to cleanly mark it between the 45 and the 65, although I suspect this was Walsh just making the run when he saw the space rather than a designed play, either way they need to get more of this happening or Galway will be short of the Super 8s again this year. Just pumping it out and expecting Conroy, Comer and D'Arcy to pluck Hollywood catches from the skies as they each did on occasion today is a recipe for long term failure. Beggan in contrast gave a kick out masterclass at the other end, it's not all down to them but Beggan and Cluxton provide such an advantage to their respective teams in this area.

Midfield wasn't great today outside of the kickout either, Conroy hit a nice score but himself and D'Arcy are too one paced to play together and neither has the engine of Flynn, they would be killed on a faster track later in the year.

John Daly was excellent and Mulkerrin very good at FB, and they'll have to keep that up every match because we're wide open at the back and getting a lot of trouble from deep runners now without the blanket, a better team than Monaghan would have filleted Galway on several of the overlap chances they had. McDaid getting into it much more today, one terrible kick pass to no one in the first half aside.
Gary O'Donnell unsurprisingly was far better out in his usual position than he was on his brief trial in the full back line.

Boyle doesn't look up to this level at all based on his appearances to date, no surprise he was hooked straight away in the first half after another mistake when he hung around waiting for the ball to come to him and got blown out of it by the Monaghan back, you get no time for that type of play at Senior IC level.

Varley is great at getting out in front of his man as an outlet the past 3 matches in 2020 and he played well for about 45 minutes, lovely mark that he scored from in the first half that he called before he even had the ball in hand. Being ultra critical he still flubbed on 3 balls played into him in the first half that he should have absolutely controlled and made stick, given the amount of long passes Galway are now looking to play forward and the greater likelihood of losing possession as a result from this more difficult skill to execute, anything that should be caught up there simply must be.

Shane Walsh pure class again today from open play and is clearly going to be targeted by the opposition so PJ needs to do what Dublin and Kerry are old hands at by using plamas/pressure as required to get the message through to refs that he needs to be protected from sledgers on the pitch. On a less happy note he missed a right footed near gimme free off the outside of the post again. Rock and O'Shea miss nothing, he isn't in this calibre as a free taker and Galway really need someone to be.

Galway shot conversion rate went through the floor in the second half, M Daly, Brannigan and a few more missed really good opportunities after good work to put them in the position to execute. Galway have to tidy this up. Finnerty showed beautiful composure for his goal in the first half, the same was required for his point that should have been a low, hard shot to the back of the net. Didn't cost Galway today but against the best of the Division they have to be nailed.

Saw a tweet that Monaghan were denied a goal when a Galway player (assuming Gleeson or Mulkerrin, I'm trying to think back when it could have occurred) went over the line with the ball, is there any validity to that claim at all? Massive, game changing mistake by the officials if true.

Another thing that was blatantly obvious today was Monaghan’s tactic of using their runner (fella in the yellow bib) to fill space on the pitch around the 50 on almost all of our kick outs for the last 20 mins or so of today’s game.  Our sideline were very naive in not bringing it to the refs attention or at least dealing with him themselves.  It’s definitely something that needs to be clamped down on.  Sherlock for Dub was a master at it under Gavins reign. 

Huge bugbear of mine the past couple of years, the Kerry minor team runner in the semi final last year was the biggest disgrace I've seen but the Monaghan buck was doing his best to match him today.

No, I can’t let this narrative go unchallenged, that Galway were somehow superior throughout and that Deegan kept Monaghan in it.

He was bad, but Monaghan felt it too. We won a free along the sideline in the second half your your selector with the orange bib encroached on the field, got involved with Kieran Hughes (he knew the right man to target anyway, I’ll give him that) and Deegan throws the ball up. Your defender (Heaney was it?) wrestles McManus to the ground as Monaghan break up the field in the second half and….. nothing. Your No. 6 lay down for a minute or two during stoppage time at the end of the game. Was the time added on?...... No.
 
Also, I’ll see your couple of goal chances (that you got points out of by the way) and I’ll raise you a missed penalty, a goal chance for Jack McCarron saved in the first half, the mark taken by Kieran Hughes on the edge of the square in the second half where he hit it on the turn and it went just wide, the chance from Christopher McGuinness at the end that was saved on the line by one of your backs……… my point being that on another day we hit two or three goals too and win the game.

It was a very even entertaining game and in my opinion Monaghan left at least one point behind us today.


Absolutely agree that Monaghan had more than enough chances to get a result, Galway could have very easily lost today but any suggestion that Galway did better out of or broke even from Deegan's decisions over the 81 minutes is frankly absurd, he couldn't possibly have added on any more time for ye at the end either.




Great report as usual.
Your match reporting and honest insight in Galway football during the year are always very interesting.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Manning18 on January 26, 2020, 11:50:46 PM

Shane Walsh pure class again today from open play and is clearly going to be targeted by the opposition so PJ needs to do what Dublin and Kerry are old hands at by using plamas/pressure as required to get the message through to refs that he needs to be protected from sledgers on the pitch. On a less happy note he missed a right footed near gimme free off the outside of the post again. Rock and O'Shea miss nothing, he isn't in this calibre as a free taker and Galway really need someone to be.

Shane is an 80% free taker. The problem is he's 80% whether it's a 14 yarder straight in front or a 35 yard kick from near the sideline!!

This has happened way too many times now to be fluke. He can't keep his concentration or something. Surely we could let another good kicker, say Varley, or even Ian Burke at a push, take all the very simple ones in around the goal. Let Shane keep trying to nail the tough ones but leave the gimmes. He's missed at least a dozen of them over the years. There's average players in my club who've never missed one of them
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: johnnycool on January 27, 2020, 10:04:56 AM
Got chatting to some Kerry lads after the game. Their attitude was that thecref treated it like an u12 game movi g thst free up. not happy.

That said, cracking game for January

I thoroughly enjoyed it as a game as well.

some serious attacking talent on both teams who actually looked to attack at every opportunity,

When played like that Gaelic football is well worth the watch.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on January 27, 2020, 10:25:33 AM
Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?   
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: rosnarun on January 27, 2020, 11:08:07 AM
Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?   
so what, does it matter what kind of a game it was . there always a 'Pitch invasion' after matches in castle bar . kids meet the player and every one elde hangs arounf for a chat . it makes the day much more sociable,

Much rather that than the feckers who leave the match with 5 minutes to go no mater what the score is .
saw it again in ballybofey when Donegal were just  a point up the started streaming home .
hope they feel stupid Today
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on January 27, 2020, 11:12:35 AM
Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?
Kids running out to get a selfie or an autograph from their favourite player?  Happens after most games as far as I can see across the country and that’s the way it should be.  Don’t see the problem with it to be honest. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 27, 2020, 11:49:22 AM
Relying on the highlights and match reports unfortunately, great match reports as usual from AFA. I thought Monaghan would win before hand, they pretty much had their best team out there and from reports sounded like they'd more work done.

Too much talk about Galway in certain circles, Colm Parkinson and the lad from Mayo on his podcast both tipping Galway to get to the final; Don't see that at all, I'll be happy just to stay up given there's been a complete change in style which obviously takes time and games to get right. We've all commented on here about the issue with kickouts for several years, Power is a very good kicked of the ball but doesn't matter if the movement isn't there. From the reports it doesn't sound like Galway did too well on Beggans kickouts, was he able to get quick kick outs away or was it simply down to movement? I was stood behind the goals 18 months ago when Monaghan beat Galway and his kickouts were brilliant, not much difference in him and Cluxton, you'd think there was nothing on but out of nowhere he'd find a pocket of space

I'd like to think Galway will improve as the year goes on in terms of tracking runners as fitness and awareness improves but it will take time and plenty of pain in the short term for Galway to get it right at the back. Ultimately Galway are going to have to find new personnel to close the gap to the top.

Enda Tierney had a fantastic game in the club final Saturday night, interesting to see if he gets called up. Looked in better physical condition when he was on the Galway panel a few years ago and looked a bit more mobile. I thought Matthew was quiet enough, not sure if he's ready to make an impact for the seniors just yet. You can tell by his frame he'll fill out but he's a long way off where Sean O'Shea was at last year physically when he was still u20.

Is Duggan gone for the season?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 27, 2020, 03:57:41 PM
Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?
Kids running out to get a selfie or an autograph from their favourite player?  Happens after most games as far as I can see across the country and that’s the way it should be.  Don’t see the problem with it to be honest.
Its great to see and long may that GAA tradition continue, just a pity those at Croke Park have stopped such "invasions"
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: BennyCake on January 27, 2020, 04:46:10 PM
Where was Peter Harte yesterday? He fecked up my fantasy team!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: southtyronegael on January 27, 2020, 05:00:00 PM
He still on honeymoon Benny.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: southtyronegael on January 27, 2020, 05:00:56 PM
Think he left before the Kerry game last year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on January 27, 2020, 07:06:08 PM
Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?
Kids running out to get a selfie or an autograph from their favourite player?  Happens after most games as far as I can see across the country and that’s the way it should be.  Don’t see the problem with it to be honest.
Its great to see and long may that GAA tradition continue, just a pity those at Croke Park have stopped such "invasions"
The Croke Park pitch invasion was not the same thing as a bunch of kids (supposedly) invading the Salthill pitch.

Though I would have thought scraping a one point win at home against a rusty relegation bound team would have rung alarm bells and boos all round.   
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 27, 2020, 07:19:29 PM
The kids invade the pitch after every home game hurling and football looking for photos and autographs, obviously they are accompanied by parents as well. Sure the PA had to specifically ask patrons not to go on the pitch after the hurling match because it was a double header. That's a match against noted hurling superpower Westmeath as well.
Making a meal about it for whatever reason - disappointment at the result of a January league match maybe? - is the only alarm bell ringing that I can hear.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on January 27, 2020, 08:37:36 PM
Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?
Kids running out to get a selfie or an autograph from their favourite player?  Happens after most games as far as I can see across the country and that’s the way it should be.  Don’t see the problem with it to be honest.
Its great to see and long may that GAA tradition continue, just a pity those at Croke Park have stopped such "invasions"
The Croke Park pitch invasion was not the same thing as a bunch of kids (supposedly) invading the Salthill pitch.

Though I would have thought scraping a one point win at home against a rusty relegation bound team would have rung alarm bells and boos all round.
As has been said several times - it’s a bunch of primary school kids looking for autographs/photos with the players ffs.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: whitey on January 27, 2020, 08:49:11 PM
Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?
Kids running out to get a selfie or an autograph from their favourite player?  Happens after most games as far as I can see across the country and that’s the way it should be.  Don’t see the problem with it to be honest.
Its great to see and long may that GAA tradition continue, just a pity those at Croke Park have stopped such "invasions"
The Croke Park pitch invasion was not the same thing as a bunch of kids (supposedly) invading the Salthill pitch.

Though I would have thought scraping a one point win at home against a rusty relegation bound team would have rung alarm bells and boos all round.
As has been said several times - it’s a bunch of primary school kids looking for autographs/photos with the players ffs.

https://youtu.be/v4tMcHUHTI4

Dad leading his daughters on their first pitch invasion

They even run into the most famous pitch invader if the past 20 years mid way through
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: MayoBuck on January 27, 2020, 09:09:36 PM
Is he more famous than the Louth fan in 2010?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: whitey on January 27, 2020, 09:25:29 PM
Is he more famous than the Louth fan in 2010?

I would say yes

Few people outside Louth would know the names or would recognize the faces of the group of people who surrounded the referee in 2010
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Manning18 on January 27, 2020, 09:32:12 PM
Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?
Kids running out to get a selfie or an autograph from their favourite player?  Happens after most games as far as I can see across the country and that’s the way it should be.  Don’t see the problem with it to be honest.
Its great to see and long may that GAA tradition continue, just a pity those at Croke Park have stopped such "invasions"
The Croke Park pitch invasion was not the same thing as a bunch of kids (supposedly) invading the Salthill pitch.

Though I would have thought scraping a one point win at home against a rusty relegation bound team would have rung alarm bells and boos all round.

Galway had a total of 4 starters from their last championship game, and 6 league debutants. I'd say most fans were pleasantly surprised they could beat, what was by all accounts, a Monaghan first 15.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tonto1888 on January 27, 2020, 09:38:28 PM
He still on honeymoon Benny.

The selfish fecker!!! Doesn’t he know we need him home for our FF teams ffs
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on January 27, 2020, 09:48:05 PM
Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?
Kids running out to get a selfie or an autograph from their favourite player?  Happens after most games as far as I can see across the country and that’s the way it should be.  Don’t see the problem with it to be honest.
Its great to see and long may that GAA tradition continue, just a pity those at Croke Park have stopped such "invasions"
The Croke Park pitch invasion was not the same thing as a bunch of kids (supposedly) invading the Salthill pitch.

Though I would have thought scraping a one point win at home against a rusty relegation bound team would have rung alarm bells and boos all round.

Galway had a total of 4 starters from their last championship game, and 6 league debutants. I'd say most fans were pleasantly surprised they could beat, what was by all accounts, a Monaghan first 15.

How did that last championship game go for ye ?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Manning18 on January 27, 2020, 09:52:34 PM
Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?
Kids running out to get a selfie or an autograph from their favourite player?  Happens after most games as far as I can see across the country and that’s the way it should be.  Don’t see the problem with it to be honest.
Its great to see and long may that GAA tradition continue, just a pity those at Croke Park have stopped such "invasions"
The Croke Park pitch invasion was not the same thing as a bunch of kids (supposedly) invading the Salthill pitch.

Though I would have thought scraping a one point win at home against a rusty relegation bound team would have rung alarm bells and boos all round.

Galway had a total of 4 starters from their last championship game, and 6 league debutants. I'd say most fans were pleasantly surprised they could beat, what was by all accounts, a Monaghan first 15.

How did that last championship game go for ye ?

We got beaten. How's every championship season of your life ended for you?

It's a bit scary that you're 30+. Sad little man
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on January 27, 2020, 10:00:37 PM
Was it so that there was a pitch invasion after the final whistle at Salthill to celebrate a bare bones  one point home victory over the relegation favourites?
Kids running out to get a selfie or an autograph from their favourite player?  Happens after most games as far as I can see across the country and that’s the way it should be.  Don’t see the problem with it to be honest.
Its great to see and long may that GAA tradition continue, just a pity those at Croke Park have stopped such "invasions"
The Croke Park pitch invasion was not the same thing as a bunch of kids (supposedly) invading the Salthill pitch.

Though I would have thought scraping a one point win at home against a rusty relegation bound team would have rung alarm bells and boos all round.

Galway had a total of 4 starters from their last championship game, and 6 league debutants. I'd say most fans were pleasantly surprised they could beat, what was by all accounts, a Monaghan first 15.

How did that last championship game go for ye ?
Are you naturally condescending or only on internet message boards?
That’s the type of juvenile post Syferus would have been proud of.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on January 27, 2020, 10:36:58 PM

Too much talk about Galway in certain circles, Colm Parkinson and the lad from Mayo on his podcast both tipping Galway to get to the final.
I think a lot are tipping Galway to go well in this league because they reached the final in 2018 and at half time in the round 7 game last year Galway were on course to reach the final again.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: mouview on January 27, 2020, 11:27:30 PM

Too much talk about Galway in certain circles, Colm Parkinson and the lad from Mayo on his podcast both tipping Galway to get to the final.
I think a lot are tipping Galway to go well in this league because they reached the final in 2018 and at half time in the round 7 game last year Galway were on course to reach the final again.

The difference this time round though is that Galway are under a new manager with a de facto new playing style. To reach a final again under such circumstances would mean probably beating one of Dublin (showing no signs of taking it easy) or a Kerry team hoping to push on again this season. A big ask. I think yesterday's 'invasion' (which happens after every game in Pearse stadium) was a natural reaction to winning a very tight match. One of the big takeaways from yesterday was that at last Galway played football their fans could care about.

Bit of a curious match yesterday from a Tribes viewpoint. Individually, all the defenders looked quite good, yet as a collective they were under a lot of pressure, especially in the closing stages. This probably due to drawbacks further out the field; a new inexperienced midfielder in D'Arcy and one, Conroy, whose legs just can't carry him about the field so well nowadays. Allied to this, you had a HF line who weren't tracking back too well or working hard enough to stop the runners coming through. I pointed out here last week my misgivings about the 2 wing-forwards. Boyle didn't go well but Ml. Daly was quite disappointing; he just doesn't have the pace to beat a player one-on-one with the ball. I think he'll be under real pressure to start come c'ship time. On the plus side, his brother looks quite good at no. 6, while captaincy seems to suits Shane Walsh; thought he really stood up yesterday and demanded the ball when the going got tough. One shameful high and late hit on him after he had delivered the ball should have yielded red.

Onwards to Tralee.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: highorlow on January 28, 2020, 10:08:34 AM
With PJ on board Galway will be unstoppable this year. It's only a matter of time before the media get wise to this.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: rosnarun on January 28, 2020, 10:34:19 AM
With PJ on board Galway will be unstoppable this year. It's only a matter of time before the media get wise to this.
they have been ender achieving for the last few years. I think they have not looked padded beating mayo and feel their season is a success if they do that .
Boxcar's son may be the missing piece of the Jigsaw
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 28, 2020, 10:53:59 AM
Too much talk about Galway in certain circles, Colm Parkinson and the lad from Mayo on his podcast both tipping Galway to get to the final.
I think a lot are tipping Galway to go well in this league because they reached the final in 2018 and at half time in the round 7 game last year Galway were on course to reach the final again.
The difference this time round though is that Galway are under a new manager with a de facto new playing style. To reach a final again under such circumstances would mean probably beating one of Dublin (showing no signs of taking it easy) or a Kerry team hoping to push on again this season. A big ask.
It would be a minor miracle for Galway to make it through to league final given the upheaval in both the players who are out on the pitch and the major change in the tactical approach, I cannot understand how anyone would be tipping them for a league final.

One of the big takeaways from yesterday was that at last Galway played football their fans could care about.
I think it's very likely that Galway will take a fair clipping or two in this league while adjusting to a very different playing method, I wouldn't be waiting on Galway's fickle football fans to have any patience when this happens just because they are enamoured with the style of play.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on January 28, 2020, 11:06:04 AM
Too much talk about Galway in certain circles, Colm Parkinson and the lad from Mayo on his podcast both tipping Galway to get to the final.
I think a lot are tipping Galway to go well in this league because they reached the final in 2018 and at half time in the round 7 game last year Galway were on course to reach the final again.
The difference this time round though is that Galway are under a new manager with a de facto new playing style. To reach a final again under such circumstances would mean probably beating one of Dublin (showing no signs of taking it easy) or a Kerry team hoping to push on again this season. A big ask.
It would be a minor miracle for Galway to make it through to league final given the upheaval in both the players who are out on the pitch and the major change in the tactical approach, I cannot understand how anyone would be tipping them for a league final.

One of the big takeaways from yesterday was that at last Galway played football their fans could care about.
I think it's very likely that Galway will take a fair clipping or two in this league while adjusting to a very different playing method, I wouldn't be waiting on Galway's fickle football fans to have any patience when this happens just because they are enamoured with the style of play.
All very true AFA and the first of those "clippings" is very likely this coming Sat evening in Tralee based on the 2 teams' respective performances over the weekend.  We are a long way off the standard that was on view in CP.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on January 28, 2020, 11:55:10 AM
Too much talk about Galway in certain circles, Colm Parkinson and the lad from Mayo on his podcast both tipping Galway to get to the final.
I think a lot are tipping Galway to go well in this league because they reached the final in 2018 and at half time in the round 7 game last year Galway were on course to reach the final again.
The difference this time round though is that Galway are under a new manager with a de facto new playing style. To reach a final again under such circumstances would mean probably beating one of Dublin (showing no signs of taking it easy) or a Kerry team hoping to push on again this season. A big ask.
It would be a minor miracle for Galway to make it through to league final given the upheaval in both the players who are out on the pitch and the major change in the tactical approach, I cannot understand how anyone would be tipping them for a league final.

One of the big takeaways from yesterday was that at last Galway played football their fans could care about.
I think it's very likely that Galway will take a fair clipping or two in this league while adjusting to a very different playing method, I wouldn't be waiting on Galway's fickle football fans to have any patience when this happens just because they are enamoured with the style of play.
All very true AFA and the first of those "clippings" is very likely this coming Sat evening in Tralee based on the 2 teams' respective performances over the weekend.  We are a long way off the standard that was on view in CP.
100% - we are going to take a beating before too long. We probably don't have defenders who are good enough in 1v1 defending situations to play such an open game. I couldn't make Pearse on Sunday but from talking to the brother and other friends who were there and would know their football reasonably well - it seems as if tracking runners from deep was a massive problem which led to defenders having to hold their ground and allow the easy tap over point to avoid conceding a goal chance on the overlap.
This along with the kickouts seem to be two areas we need to tighten up on.
But it's early days so hopefully we can improve in these areas before championship.
In reality we have got an easy draw - New York and home to Sligo to make a Connacht final is what Pj would have wanted.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Manning18 on January 28, 2020, 12:35:39 PM
Watching the first half of the Galway game the last day, it was playing Tyrone in particular that I was thinking i'd be afraid of. The Roscommon Super 8's game 2 years ago where they tore them asunder with deep runners is a perfect example. They've done similar against plenty of teams, Cavan last year, Cork the year before etc. Donegal would be scary in that regard also, and obviously Dublin.

While Kerry's half backs and MF are plenty capable, I think theyre more likely to play an orthodox football game against us and let it in long. Which doesn't bode well either given theyve the most dangerous forward line we've seen in a long while. Like others, I can see a couple of pastings in the league. Thankfully the win on Sunday should put them in position to stave off relegation while continuing the experiment
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: greatpoint on January 28, 2020, 01:00:07 PM
Any truth to Horan and McDonald leaping around the place celebrating Mayo’s draw on the weekend?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 28, 2020, 01:04:43 PM
I do laugh when the pundits comment how the Dubs & Kerry players are only back from holiday and won't be as fit as the other teams, what a load of nonsense. Ciaran Kilkenny didn't even go out the day after winning the All Ireland, these lads would have looked after themselves on holiday. Parkinson & Spillane were at the same wedding the week before xmas and talked about the Kerry panellist who wouldn't have a drink at the wedding.

Watched most of the Donegal Mayo game last night, Donegal should have 7 or 8 points clear at half time; They were so dominant until AOS came on although Paton went very long on a lot of kickouts which Mayo ended up winning. Mullin looks a future top player although they've got their work hanging onto him. O'Hora looks good, excellent kicker of the ball but don't know whether he'll be quick enough on harder ground. Conroy had a bigger impact than Walsh, O'Donoghue & Reape put together, liked the look of him.  Donegal have a lot of good younger players, as long as Murphy hangs around they'll be knocking on the door in the next few years.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Mayo Border on January 28, 2020, 01:24:10 PM
Any truth to Horan and McDonald leaping around the place celebrating Mayo’s draw on the weekend?
No but they did have a smile from ear to ear
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 28, 2020, 06:33:54 PM
With PJ on board Galway will be unstoppable this year. It's only a matter of time before the media get wise to this.
they have been ender achieving for the last few years. I think they have not looked padded beating mayo and feel their season is a success if they do that .
Boxcar's son may be the missing piece of the Jigsaw

If you class winning 2 Connacht titles in 4 years, become establish division 1 team and reaching a first All Ireland semi final for 17 years as underachieving what do you call 2009 to 2014 where Galway ended up as a middle of the road Div 2 team with no provincial titles won?

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 28, 2020, 10:27:11 PM
Galway team for Saturday named:
1   Connor Gleeson
2   Johnny Duane
3   Sean Mulkerrin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Gary O'Donnell
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Cein D'Arcy
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Finnian Ó Laoi
13   Robert Finnerty
14   Shane Walsh
15   Michael Daly
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Duine Eile on January 28, 2020, 11:28:15 PM
Galway team for Saturday named:
1   Connor Gleeson
2   Johnny Duane
3   Sean Mulkerrin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Gary O'Donnell
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Cein D'Arcy
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Finnian Ó Laoi
13   Robert Finnerty
14   Shane Walsh
15   Michael Daly

These early team announcements are great, gets people discussing the games if nothing else. Good to see Steede get his chance, hopefully it goes well for him, he's earned it in fairness. It'll be interesting to see how he fares out at the next level. Surprised to see Comer start, there's never a full 70 in him. Same back 6 as the last day which is a worry up against those Kerry forwards. Think Duane is only keeping that corner warm for Liam Silke. Not too sure about the thoughts of Johnny Heaney up against O'Donoghue either  ???
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 28, 2020, 11:50:29 PM
Galway team for Saturday named:
1   Connor Gleeson
2   Johnny Duane
3   Sean Mulkerrin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Gary O'Donnell
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Cein D'Arcy
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Finnian Ó Laoi
13   Robert Finnerty
14   Shane Walsh
15   Michael Daly

These early team announcements are great, gets people discussing the games if nothing else. Good to see Steede get his chance, hopefully it goes well for him, he's earned it in fairness. It'll be interesting to see how he fares out at the next level. Surprised to see Comer start, there's never a full 70 in him. Same back 6 as the last day which is a worry up against those Kerry forwards. Think Duane is only keeping that corner warm for Liam Silke. Not too sure about the thoughts of Johnny Heaney up against O'Donoghue either  ???

Comer needs the game time now. Missed all last year pretty much. Doubt he'll last the whole match though. Probably off after 50 minutes or so.

Heard Silke interviewed on Parkinson's podcast there recently. More or less admitted he doesn't like playing corner back but Galway have quite a few options at wing-back. Not so much in the corners.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 29, 2020, 09:07:42 AM
Galway team for Saturday named:
1   Connor Gleeson
2   Johnny Duane
3   Sean Mulkerrin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Gary O'Donnell
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Cein D'Arcy
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Finnian Ó Laoi
13   Robert Finnerty
14   Shane Walsh
15   Michael Daly

These early team announcements are great, gets people discussing the games if nothing else. Good to see Steede get his chance, hopefully it goes well for him, he's earned it in fairness. It'll be interesting to see how he fares out at the next level. Surprised to see Comer start, there's never a full 70 in him. Same back 6 as the last day which is a worry up against those Kerry forwards. Think Duane is only keeping that corner warm for Liam Silke. Not too sure about the thoughts of Johnny Heaney up against O'Donoghue either  ???
Whatever about the viability of Duane in the corner long term, we need to pump the brakes on bigging up the likes of Silke until they actually play up to reputation at inter county level. A phenomenal club player without doubt but he's done very little at all in a Galway jersey, he wasn't even on the panel for the most successful season we've had since 2001 in 2018. He was last seen for Galway getting absolutely cleaned out in successive championship matches against Roscommon and Mayo. At least we've seen the much maligned Kerin and Wynne put in good shifts in big championship matches on occasion, Silke getting MOTM against a Sligo team that couldn't beat anyone last year doesn't count for much when it's followed up by being the worst outfield player against Mayo in a proper knockout match.
We'd all love the Corofin players to bring their on pitch success and fantastic club performances with them into the Galway team but outside of Burke in 17/18 none of them have been great in a Galway jersey so far, in mitigation it's far from ideal coming into the Galway setup late every year after a hugely demanding club campaign, maybe with the restructure of the calendar this year it'll give them a better opportunity to perform well at inter county level. The incompatible style of play excuse is certainly gone now.

Wouldn't judge Steede purely on the basis of just the next game, very difficult situation to go straight in away to Kerry with basically a rookie alongside him as well. Midfield, HF and FF line have never played as selected before for Galway either, big ask to get anything out of the match.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on January 29, 2020, 09:17:36 AM
Galway team for Saturday named:
1   Connor Gleeson
2   Johnny Duane
3   Sean Mulkerrin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Gary O'Donnell
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Cein D'Arcy
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Finnian Ó Laoi
13   Robert Finnerty
14   Shane Walsh
15   Michael Daly

These early team announcements are great, gets people discussing the games if nothing else. Good to see Steede get his chance, hopefully it goes well for him, he's earned it in fairness. It'll be interesting to see how he fares out at the next level. Surprised to see Comer start, there's never a full 70 in him. Same back 6 as the last day which is a worry up against those Kerry forwards. Think Duane is only keeping that corner warm for Liam Silke. Not too sure about the thoughts of Johnny Heaney up against O'Donoghue either  ???
Whatever about the viability of Duane in the corner long term, we need to pump the brakes on bigging up the likes of Silke until they actually play up to reputation at inter county level. A phenomenal club player without doubt but he's done very little at all in a Galway jersey, he wasn't even on the panel for the most successful season we've had since 2001 in 2018. He was last seen for Galway getting absolutely cleaned out in successive championship matches against Roscommon and Mayo. At least we've seen the much maligned Kerin and Wynne put in good shifts in big championship matches on occasion, Silke getting MOTM against a Sligo team that couldn't beat anyone last year doesn't count for much when it's followed up by being the worst outfield player against Mayo in a proper knockout match.
We'd all love the Corofin players to bring their on pitch success and fantastic club performances with them into the Galway team but outside of Burke in 17/18 none of them have been great in a Galway jersey so far, in mitigation it's far from ideal coming into the Galway setup late every year after a hugely demanding club campaign, maybe with the restructure of the calendar this year it'll give them a better opportunity to perform well at inter county level. The incompatible style of play excuse is certainly gone now.

Wouldn't judge Steede purely on the basis of just the next game, very difficult situation to go straight in away to Kerry with basically a rookie alongside him as well. Midfield, HF and FF line have never played as selected before for Galway either, big ask to get anything out of the match.
For sure - Steede needs a run of games to show what he can do. This is his very first start ever for the Galway senior footballers.
Michael Daly needs to start producing or his hold on a starting jersey will loosen pretty quickly.
Kerry is a great test for this team. Roll on Saturday.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: rosnarun on January 29, 2020, 10:16:36 AM
Id always be very wary of lads getting a chance based on Club performance . each year a new club comes along and does well there are call of most of them to be Promoted to the county team .
I happened in Mayo with Knockmore, ballina, and crossmolina but with a a few game with the odd exception the new guys were  dropped one by one until only the guys who would have made it anyway were remaining .
Steede was fantastic  in the final but he was hardly an unknown entity before that so is it a case he has been mistreated of just had one exceptional game?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 29, 2020, 11:33:58 AM
For Steede to date there has been a mixture of both not getting an opportunity at times and of him not committing to the county setup. Whether he can make the step up is hard to know, pace wise he certainly isn't the ideal for IC standard but the league is there for trying lads out against proper competition, no better acid test than Kerry away for a start.

I think Steede is being put in straight away as Galway are short of bodies in the midfield sector due to current injuries and player unavailability, in addition the Conroy/D'Arcy midfield tandem did not look good enough against Monaghan, although that's only on the basis of one match in fairness to them both. Certainly for the moment Paul Conroy looks like he is going to have a much greater impact coming into the game as opposed to starting, while the likes of Maitias Ó Bairéid is only just out of U20. I would imagine Comer will also be tasked with trying to make an impact around this sector until his legs go in the second half, certainly as he wasn't positioned in the FF line last Sunday, lined up more at wing forward where he played underage.

Michael Daly needs to start producing or his hold on a starting jersey will loosen pretty quickly.
This is certainly the case, good for a couple of scores in a match along with one or two other nice plays but he is completely inconsistent and not the type of impactful player that he looked like coming out of U21. His excellent performance as a 2nd half substitute in the 2017 League final is nearly the best outing he's had in a Galway jersey and I can't recall if he had even togged for the Seniors before that.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Manning18 on January 29, 2020, 12:32:30 PM
Id always be very wary of lads getting a chance based on Club performance . each year a new club comes along and does well there are call of most of them to be Promoted to the county team .
I happened in Mayo with Knockmore, ballina, and crossmolina but with a a few game with the odd exception the new guys were  dropped one by one until only the guys who would have made it anyway were remaining .
Steede was fantastic  in the final but he was hardly an unknown entity before that so is it a case he has been mistreated of just had one exceptional game?

I'm sure he'll get a bit of a run in the league but considering no other Corofin player is included, it's safe to put this one down to sheer necessity. Flynn, Duggan, O'Currain injured, Cooke away. Presuming he thinks Conroy doesnt have the legs for Kerry or soemthing could be amiss there also. He's probably more of a forward for the rest of his career anyway. Tbh the other midfielder Darcy is too inexperienced for a game like this, so it tells its own story when he's the one people are questioning least.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on January 29, 2020, 02:00:02 PM
Unless we get our injuries sorted we’re going to struggle to earn a single point. Bad enough to lose our keeper in the warm up against Tyrone but for our 2nd and 3rd choice keepers to be so under prepared is not good enough for this level. Still we had enough possession and opportunities to salvage something but we don’t have the Type of players available to take on a blanket defense which Donegal could easily revert to this weekend. Hopefully Andy has been giving the mark some thought this week because we’ll need it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2020, 02:25:38 PM
Id always be very wary of lads getting a chance based on Club performance . each year a new club comes along and does well there are call of most of them to be Promoted to the county team .
I happened in Mayo with Knockmore, ballina, and crossmolina but with a a few game with the odd exception the new guys were  dropped one by one until only the guys who would have made it anyway were remaining .
Steede was fantastic  in the final but he was hardly an unknown entity before that so is it a case he has been mistreated of just had one exceptional game?

I'm sure he'll get a bit of a run in the league but considering no other Corofin player is included, it's safe to put this one down to sheer necessity. Flynn, Duggan, O'Currain injured, Cooke away. Presuming he thinks Conroy doesnt have the legs for Kerry or soemthing could be amiss there also. He's probably more of a forward for the rest of his career anyway. Tbh the other midfielder Darcy is too inexperienced for a game like this, so it tells its own story when he's the one people are questioning least.

Steede will perform well I can imagine, afterall Kerry aren't that strong in midfield and especially without David Moran.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 29, 2020, 05:16:25 PM
Am I the only one interested in Saturday's proceedings in McHale Park??
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Rossfan on January 29, 2020, 05:49:03 PM
Ahh Lar will you stop interfering in the Herrins forum  :D
They seem to be getting pretty excited about things since young Joycheen took over
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 29, 2020, 06:33:39 PM
Am I the only one interested in Saturday's proceedings in McHale Park??

I think there is only so much Galway talk as they seem to be naming the team so early on Tuesday's this year. The last few years I think it was only named late Thursday or Friday night. Depending on if it was a Saturday or Sunday game.

Now we have a team out but nobody else does until later in the week so there ya go.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: joemamas on January 29, 2020, 07:04:49 PM
Unless we get our injuries sorted we’re going to struggle to earn a single point. Bad enough to lose our keeper in the warm up against Tyrone but for our 2nd and 3rd choice keepers to be so under prepared is not good enough for this level. Still we had enough possession and opportunities to salvage something but we don’t have the Type of players available to take on a blanket defense which Donegal could easily revert to this weekend. Hopefully Andy has been giving the mark some thought this week because we’ll need it.
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By my observation, Donegal ended up with four or five injuries against Mayo, be surprised if any of them start, throw that in with the previously missing and they may well struggle.
I have no idea how Meath are, but would assume they would be competitive at home.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on January 29, 2020, 07:16:53 PM
Monaghan v Tyrone at Clones, is not much different to holding a family garden party but with an imposed mandate that an ogre element be invited out of a misplaced courtesy.  Fortunately our record in the NFL against the Tyrone horde is good and this time  the impact of  Banty’s backroom team should kick in to good effect. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: omagh_gael on January 29, 2020, 07:41:40 PM
Hopefully Banty's horde turn up in Clones and we'll take the forfeited points whilst sitting on ogre arses over in Blaney!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on January 29, 2020, 07:48:32 PM
Am I the only one interested in Saturday's proceedings in McHale Park??

You’d have to fear the worst lar , Dublin looked sharp last week , we were pretty poor in reality and bar poor Donegal shooting we would of got a trimming .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: seafoid on January 30, 2020, 08:53:18 AM
Odds 30 Jan

Dublin 13/8
Kerry   3/1
Galway 8/1
Tyrone 9/1
Mayo 10/1
Donegal 10/1
Monaghan 40/1
Meath 150/1


The divisions are said to be evenly matched
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Dire Ear on January 30, 2020, 09:44:26 AM
Hopefully Banty's horde turn up in Clones and we'll take the forfeited points whilst sitting on ogre arses over in Blaney!!
Class!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on January 30, 2020, 10:03:57 AM
Odds 30 Jan

Dublin 13/8
Kerry   3/1
Galway 8/1
Tyrone 9/1
Mayo 10/1
Donegal 10/1
Monaghan 40/1
Meath 150/1


The divisions are said to be evenly matched
Hmmm, I would suggest that that the football divisions are pretty evenly matched with Cork in Div 3 possibly being the exception.  There were two Div 1 games in Pearse Stadium last Sunday, 1 was a good competitive match, the other wasn't even a good training session.  I'm not expecting a win in Tralee on Sat night but I am hoping that we will be at least competitive and I would also be hopeful of giving the Dubs a good rattle in Pearse Stadium later on, similar to their last visit.  I like the football league structure, even allowing for the time of year its played etc.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 30, 2020, 12:34:15 PM
Am I the only one interested in Saturday's proceedings in McHale Park??

You’d have to fear the worst lar , Dublin looked sharp last week , we were pretty poor in reality and bar poor Donegal shooting we would of got a trimming .

It was Jim Gavins Dublin that Mayo couldn't beat surely with him gone, early February with Dublin not long back for their Holidays and the match played in MacHale Park is ideal opportunity for Mayo to win?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: greatpoint on January 30, 2020, 02:01:07 PM
I see the media are all-out trying to force this Dublin Kerry rivalry into existence, despite Kerry having not beaten the Dubs in Championship since 2009. Outlets like OTB have only covered the Dublin vs. Kerry game from last weekend and appear to be only discussing the games involving those two this coming weekend.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 30, 2020, 03:31:02 PM
Am I the only one interested in Saturday's proceedings in McHale Park??

You’d have to fear the worst lar , Dublin looked sharp last week , we were pretty poor in reality and bar poor Donegal shooting we would of got a trimming .

It was Jim Gavins Dublin that Mayo couldn't beat surely with him gone, early February with Dublin not long back for their Holidays and the match played in MacHale Park is ideal opportunity for Mayo to win?
I’d love to agree with you but I can’t see it happening. Mayo won’t be able to field anything near the full championside and they don’t have the same quality of reserves as Dublin.
I like the look of some of the new faces on show in Ballybofey but Dublin looked sharp the last day and with most of the side anxious to stake their claim with the new manager, they won’t be lacking motivation.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2020, 03:45:02 PM
Am I the only one interested in Saturday's proceedings in McHale Park??

You’d have to fear the worst lar , Dublin looked sharp last week , we were pretty poor in reality and bar poor Donegal shooting we would of got a trimming .

It was Jim Gavins Dublin that Mayo couldn't beat surely with him gone, early February with Dublin not long back for their Holidays and the match played in MacHale Park is ideal opportunity for Mayo to win?
I’d love to agree with you but I can’t see it happening. Mayo won’t be able to field anything near the full championside and they don’t have the same quality of reserves as Dublin.
I like the look of some of the new faces on show in Ballybofey but Dublin looked sharp the last day and with most of the side anxious to stake their claim with the new manager, they won’t be lacking motivation.

Have to agree. The performance in Ballybofey wouldn't do against the Dubs either. Hard to see a Mayo win, a tight loss would be ok I'd imagine. A hammering would be terrible.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on January 30, 2020, 05:15:16 PM
Am I the only one interested in Saturday's proceedings in McHale Park??

You’d have to fear the worst lar , Dublin looked sharp last week , we were pretty poor in reality and bar poor Donegal shooting we would of got a trimming .

It was Jim Gavins Dublin that Mayo couldn't beat surely with him gone, early February with Dublin not long back for their Holidays and the match played in MacHale Park is ideal opportunity for Mayo to win?
I’d love to agree with you but I can’t see it happening. Mayo won’t be able to field anything near the full championside and they don’t have the same quality of reserves as Dublin.
I like the look of some of the new faces on show in Ballybofey but Dublin looked sharp the last day and with most of the side anxious to stake their claim with the new manager, they won’t be lacking motivation.

Have to agree. The performance in Ballybofey wouldn't do against the Dubs either. Hard to see a Mayo win, a tight loss would be ok I'd imagine. A hammering would be terrible.

Same here unfortunately
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: From the Bunker on January 30, 2020, 06:18:16 PM
When is the last time Mayo beat Dublin in League or Championship?

The answer is probably 2012. A long time ago!

Dublin in the past would have singled out this League fixture. That's probably not the case anymore.  :-\



Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: seafoid on January 30, 2020, 06:33:39 PM
When is the last time Mayo beat Dublin in League or Championship?

The answer is probably 2012. A long time ago!

Dublin in the past would have singled out this League fixture. That's probably not the case anymore.  :-\
Not after last year ( which was disgraceful i mo thuairim . )
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 30, 2020, 06:53:25 PM
When is the last time Mayo beat Dublin in League or Championship?

The answer is probably 2012. A long time ago!

Dublin in the past would have singled out this League fixture. That's probably not the case anymore.  :-\
Conor McKeon did an interview with Enda Varley on Monday last in the Indo.
I found this very interesting.
Between '13 and '17, Mayo played Dublin a total of 19 times, between league and championship, and lost 17 of them. They won only two and drew the other two but the interesting fact is that Mayo amassed a total of 250 points in the process but Dublin managed only 251.
However, the devil is in the detail...
Dublin scored a total of 32 goals whereas Mayo managed only 12.
Seems goals win games...
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Ball Hopper on January 30, 2020, 07:03:37 PM
Of the last 7 Dublin/Kerry games, Dublin have won 2.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: twohands!!! on January 30, 2020, 07:22:40 PM
When is the last time Mayo beat Dublin in League or Championship?

The answer is probably 2012. A long time ago!

Dublin in the past would have singled out this League fixture. That's probably not the case anymore.  :-\
Conor McKeon did an interview with Enda Varley on Monday last in the Indo.
I found this very interesting.
Between '13 and '17, Mayo played Dublin a total of 19 times, between league and championship, and lost 17 of them. They won only two and drew the other two but the interesting fact is that Mayo amassed a total of 250 points in the process but Dublin managed only 251.
However, the devil is in the detail...
Dublin scored a total of 32 goals whereas Mayo managed only 12.
Seems goals win games...

Out of the 71 championship games last summer there were only 5 games where a side scored less goals than the opposition and won.

On Dublin when you look at the stats in terms of the amount of goal scoring chances they create and convert, as well as looking at their overall attacking play in games, it's blatantly clear that part of their overall strategy is to score goals. I think it's one of the areas where they are a good way ahead of the competition. A lot of other sides seem far more willing to "take their points" as opposed to developing the play and getting the shot at goal off.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Ball Hopper on January 30, 2020, 08:05:45 PM
When is the last time Mayo beat Dublin in League or Championship?

The answer is probably 2012. A long time ago!

Dublin in the past would have singled out this League fixture. That's probably not the case anymore.  :-\
Conor McKeon did an interview with Enda Varley on Monday last in the Indo.
I found this very interesting.
Between '13 and '17, Mayo played Dublin a total of 19 times, between league and championship, and lost 17 of them. They won only two and drew the other two but the interesting fact is that Mayo amassed a total of 250 points in the process but Dublin managed only 251.
However, the devil is in the detail...
Dublin scored a total of 32 goals whereas Mayo managed only 12.
Seems goals win games...

Out of the 71 championship games last summer there were only 5 games where a side scored less goals than the opposition and won.

On Dublin when you look at the stats in terms of the amount of goal scoring chances they create and convert, as well as looking at their overall attacking play in games, it's blatantly clear that part of their overall strategy is to score goals. I think it's one of the areas where they are a good way ahead of the competition. A lot of other sides seem far more willing to "take their points" as opposed to developing the play and getting the shot at goal off.

In 8 championship games in 2019, Kerry scored 8 goals total.  In only one game (Meath) did they hit the net twice.  The only game Kerry failed to score a goal was the only game they lost.

"Goals win games, defense wins championships"
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on January 30, 2020, 08:45:14 PM
Of the last 7 Dublin/Kerry games, Dublin have won 2.

League games are fantastic but I’d hazard a guess 2009 is the only stat that counts to Kerry .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on January 30, 2020, 10:31:52 PM
Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2020, 11:03:43 PM
Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels

Great. Flip flopping between goalies again. ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: From the Bunker on January 31, 2020, 06:37:09 AM
Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels

Great. Flip flopping between goalies again. ::)

It's a case of a goalie that can't deal with high balls kicked into him or a goalie that can't kick high balls out!  :-\
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Never beat the deeler on January 31, 2020, 06:40:11 AM
Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels

Great. Flip flopping between goalies again. ::)

It's a case of a goalie that can't deal with high balls kicked into him or a goalie that can't kick high balls out!  :-\

Do you think that's the reason? Clarke is kicking the ball to Hennelly in training  ;D ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: joemamas on January 31, 2020, 01:43:01 PM
Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels

Great. Flip flopping between goalies again. ::)

It's a case of a goalie that can't deal with high balls kicked into him or a goalie that can't kick high balls out!  :-\

James Horan only had six months to come up with an alternative.
A tad embarrassing.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on January 31, 2020, 02:16:35 PM
The memory of how well Robert Hennelly played against Dublin in the league last year probably played a part in this selection.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: greatpoint on January 31, 2020, 02:19:37 PM
Of the last 7 Dublin/Kerry games, Dublin have won 2.

But in the games that actually matter Dublin are unbeaten for 11 years. Sure Tyrone and Monaghan beat Dublin in the league last year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: rosnarun on January 31, 2020, 02:30:53 PM
Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels

Great. Flip flopping between goalies again. ::)

It's a case of a goalie that can't deal with high balls kicked into him or a goalie that can't kick high balls out!  :-\

James Horan only had six months to come up with an alternative.
A tad embarrassing.
the alternatives seems to have been poached in a big money transfers.
Personally I think its time to show confidence in hennelly you have to accept the odd mistake but overall hes a top class keeper with a great kick out when as Clarke has as many meltdowns  and was poor under the high ball in ballybofey.
if mullin plays fullback he going to need all the protection he can get 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on January 31, 2020, 02:36:55 PM
Mayo team for Saturday.

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Jordan Flynn - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels

Great. Flip flopping between goalies again. ::)

It's a case of a goalie that can't deal with high balls kicked into him or a goalie that can't kick high balls out!  :-\

James Horan only had six months to come up with an alternative.
A tad embarrassing.
the alternatives seems to have been poached in a big money transfers.
Personally I think its time to show confidence in hennelly you have to accept the odd mistake but overall hes a top class keeper with a great kick out when as Clarke has as many meltdowns  and was poor under the high ball in ballybofey.
if mullin plays fullback he going to need all the protection he can get

Did Dublin not destroy his kickouts in the SF last year?

This has been an issue for the past 5 years and it feels like nothing has been done about it - either in terms of trying someone new or working with the two that are there and trying to improve their obvious weaknesses.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: rosnarun on January 31, 2020, 05:23:48 PM
no there were strategies that went arseways  , but we have no better striker of the ball.   lets face it Clarke has an even worse record in that regard like landing the ball on connollys head and messing up 32 other kick outs when the game was in the balance and kicking  the ball out over the line wen 1 point down  with a minute left in an all Ireland Finals
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tonto1888 on January 31, 2020, 05:39:40 PM
When is the last time Mayo beat Dublin in League or Championship?

The answer is probably 2012. A long time ago!

Dublin in the past would have singled out this League fixture. That's probably not the case anymore.  :-\
Conor McKeon did an interview with Enda Varley on Monday last in the Indo.
I found this very interesting.
Between '13 and '17, Mayo played Dublin a total of 19 times, between league and championship, and lost 17 of them. They won only two and drew the other two but the interesting fact is that Mayo amassed a total of 250 points in the process but Dublin managed only 251.
However, the devil is in the detail...
Dublin scored a total of 32 goals whereas Mayo managed only 12.
Seems goals win games...

19 games. Lost 17. Only won 2 and Drew the other 2. Maths not his strong point?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on January 31, 2020, 07:37:39 PM
no there were strategies that went arseways  , but we have no better striker of the ball.   lets face it Clarke has an even worse record in that regard like landing the ball on connollys head and messing up 32 other kick outs when the game was in the balance and kicking  the ball out over the line wen 1 point down  with a minute left in an all Ireland Finals

Strategies that went arseways? He was sprinting to get the ball kicked back out to Dublin instead of slowing it down a little ffs.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 31, 2020, 08:34:38 PM
Kerry with a strong team out again. Only really missing David Moran. Have Jack Barry back.

Shane Ryan
Jason Foley
Tadhg Morley
Shane Enright
Paul Murphy
Gavin Crowley
Gavin White
Liam Kearney
Jack Barry
Gavin O’Brien
Sean O’Shea
Stephen O’Brien
James O’Donoghue
David Clifford
Paul Geaney
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Sionnach on January 31, 2020, 09:55:16 PM
Kerry with a strong team out again. Only really missing David Moran. Have Jack Barry back.


Close to a first-choice championship team yes, probably a couple more besides Moran missing though.  Definitely Tom O'Sullivan would replace Enright in defence.  In the forwards, Gavin O'Brien has a bit to go to be a starter.  Kerry do seem to be going strong from the very start of the league.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on January 31, 2020, 10:21:30 PM
Dublin team for tomorrow night

Evan Comerford; Eric Lowndes, David Byrne, Rory O'Carroll; James McCarthy, John Small, Eoin Murchan; Brian Fenton, Brian Howard; Niall Scully, Paul Mannion, Ciaran Kilkenny; Kevin McManamon, Paddy Andrews, Dean Rock.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on January 31, 2020, 10:33:33 PM
Dublin team for tomorrow night

Evan Comerford; Eric Lowndes, David Byrne, Rory O'Carroll; James McCarthy, John Small, Eoin Murchan; Brian Fenton, Brian Howard; Niall Scully, Paul Mannion, Ciaran Kilkenny; Kevin McManamon, Paddy Andrews, Dean Rock.
What’s the story with Cormac Costello this year - is he involved in the squad currently?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on February 01, 2020, 08:30:08 AM
Dublin team for tomorrow night

Evan Comerford; Eric Lowndes, David Byrne, Rory O'Carroll; James McCarthy, John Small, Eoin Murchan; Brian Fenton, Brian Howard; Niall Scully, Paul Mannion, Ciaran Kilkenny; Kevin McManamon, Paddy Andrews, Dean Rock.

Holy gawd we are going to be murdered .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on February 01, 2020, 02:07:42 PM
Throw-in at Pairc Tailteann is at 2.00pm.

Meath (FL1 v Donegal):

Barry Dardis;

Robin Clarke,
Conor McGill,
David Toner;

James McEntee,
Ronan Ryan,
Donal Keogan;

Bryan Menton,
Brían Conlon;

Ben Brennan,
Bryan McMahon,
Eamon Wallace;

Cillian O’Sullivan,
Thomas O’Reilly,
Joey Wallace.


Strong enough defensively. Midfield ok. Forwards quite under strength. Dardis back in goals, not sure if that’s a bad sign that we haven’t found a proper sub keeper.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on February 01, 2020, 03:41:49 PM
Mayo subs maybe a few starters there?

Clarke
Stretton
McCormack
Eoin O Donoghue
David Kenny
Tom Parsons
Aidan O Shea
Bryan Walsh
Conor Loftus
Brian Reape
Darren Coen
Tommy Conroy
Lee Keegan

Dublin subs

16.Michael Shiel
17.Sean Bulger
18.Aaron Byrne
19.Michael Fitzsimons
20.Liam Flatman
21.Conor McHugh
22.Conor Mullaly
23.Dan O Brien
24.Eoin O Brien
25.Cillian O Shea
26.Paddy Small
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on February 01, 2020, 04:05:40 PM
Mayo subs maybe a few starters there?

Clarke
Stretton
McCormack
Eoin O Donoghue
David Kenny
Tom Parsons
Aidan O Shea
Bryan Walsh
Conor Loftus
Brian Reape
Darren Coen
Tommy Conroy
Lee Keegan

Dublin subs

16.Michael Shiel
17.Sean Bulger
18.Aaron Byrne
19.Michael Fitzsimons
20.Liam Flatman
21.Conor McHugh
22.Conor Mullaly
23.Dan O Brien
24.Eoin O Brien
25.Cillian O Shea
26.Paddy Small
Eoin O Donoghue is a quality defender.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: omagh_gael on February 01, 2020, 06:49:53 PM
Any streams for eir sports?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: joemamas on February 01, 2020, 06:51:55 PM
Mayo subs maybe a few starters there?

Clarke
Stretton
McCormack
Eoin O Donoghue
David Kenny
Tom Parsons
Aidan O Shea
Bryan Walsh
Conor Loftus
Brian Reape
Darren Coen
Tommy Conroy
Lee Keegan

Dublin subs

16.Michael Shiel
17.Sean Bulger
18.Aaron Byrne
19.Michael Fitzsimons
20.Liam Flatman
21.Conor McHugh
22.Conor Mullaly
23.Dan O Brien
24.Eoin O Brien
25.Cillian O Shea
26.Paddy Small
Eoin O Donoghue is a quality defender.

If there was an all star award for shit analysis,
Brolly, Mark o Shea (worst of the three) and Andy Moran, they would have it locked up already for the year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: maigheo on February 01, 2020, 06:58:09 PM
A O Shea starting for Mayo
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: ONeill on February 01, 2020, 07:44:11 PM
Poor enough compared to last week. Heavy training kicking in.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on February 01, 2020, 07:45:17 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: ONeill on February 01, 2020, 07:47:24 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

The more I looked at it the worse it got. Sort of a box.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: dublin7 on February 01, 2020, 08:22:50 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: From the Bunker on February 01, 2020, 08:24:25 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Red all day long!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on February 01, 2020, 08:27:34 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card
Anti-Dublin? I’m the least anti-Dublin person you could meet.
A huge admirer of that Dublin team.
But that to me is a high tackle which is a yellow card imo.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 01, 2020, 08:32:04 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card
Anti-Dublin? I’m the least anti-Dublin person you could meet.
A huge admirer of that Dublin team.
But that to me is a high tackle which is a yellow card imo.

Can't believe anyone thinks it's a red. Yellow everyday. 3 commentators and the presenter even said a yellow.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Ball Hopper on February 01, 2020, 08:37:34 PM
Late 1-1 from Kerry sneaks the win in Tralee...final score Kerry 1-15 Galway 2-11.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 01, 2020, 08:37:48 PM
Jaysus, Galway f**k it away down in Tralee. 3 points up. Game well into added time and Kerry finish with 1-1 to win by a point.

Sounded like some controversy over a black card at the end there and the officials not letting the player back on the field.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 01, 2020, 08:38:26 PM
 Great effort by Galway, Shane Walsh to the fore for them again. Dublin v Mayo not the best of games but the sending off certainly didn't help.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on February 01, 2020, 08:49:17 PM
Jaysus, Galway f**k it away down in Tralee. 3 points up. Game well into added time and Kerry finish with 1-1 to win by a point.

Sounded like some controversy over a black card at the end there and the officials not letting the player back on the field.
Yeah McDaid wasn’t let on after his ten minutes were up as Gleeson was preparing to take a kick out.
Kerry kicked the winner from the next play.
Sounds like we were caught out trying to play keep ball at the back for the Kerry goal.
It seems we got a good performance though and this will be a good learning experience for that team.
On another note - that is Cillians third black card in 4 games this year - he really needs to sort that indiscipline out.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on February 01, 2020, 08:52:09 PM
Jaysus, Galway f**k it away down in Tralee. 3 points up. Game well into added time and Kerry finish with 1-1 to win by a point.

Sounded like some controversy over a black card at the end there and the officials not letting the player back on the field.
A tough defeat to take on the chin but that performance against a near full strength Kerry is encouraging for Galway.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 01, 2020, 08:58:22 PM
Jaysus, Galway f**k it away down in Tralee. 3 points up. Game well into added time and Kerry finish with 1-1 to win by a point.

Sounded like some controversy over a black card at the end there and the officials not letting the player back on the field.
A tough defeat to take on the chin but that performance against a near full strength Kerry is encouraging for Galway.

Just noticed that Buff Egan was covering the game so watched his highlights there. We missed at least 3 great goal chances too.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 01, 2020, 08:58:55 PM
Barry the ref  grabbed centre stage  with bald headed desperation,   “dem crazy baldheads”
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 01, 2020, 09:09:32 PM
Galway lost that match rather than Kerry winning it, appalling standard of finishing in the first half when at least 2-2 was left behind, crazy self inflicted mistake for the second Kerry goal and while Nolan gave McDaid a correct black card which was crucial to the result, the exact same foul on Flynn in the middle of the half resulted in nothing for the Kerry player. If the foul on Comer in the box happened at the other end it would have definitely been called a peno.
Shane Walsh was by a distance the best player on the pitch for either side and yet he still made a hames of two very scorable chances in the first half, one a mark which should have been nailed.

Very frustrating result given how the match turned out, it's absolutely two points fucked away. Great crowd and perfect conditions for football out there tonight.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on February 01, 2020, 09:53:42 PM
Very boring game in Castlebar, loads of lateral passing from both sides.

Never a red for me, yellow all day after seeing the replays
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: dublin7 on February 01, 2020, 10:47:37 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card
Anti-Dublin? I’m the least anti-Dublin person you could meet.
A huge admirer of that Dublin team.
But that to me is a high tackle which is a yellow card imo.
Cheap shot that deserved a red card. Mayo were rubbish up front and if they use the red card to delude themselves about the result they're fooling no one but themselves
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 01, 2020, 10:52:00 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card
Anti-Dublin? I’m the least anti-Dublin person you could meet.
A huge admirer of that Dublin team.
But that to me is a high tackle which is a yellow card imo.
Cheap shot that deserved a red card. Mayo were rubbish up front and if they use the red card to delude themselves about the result they're fooling no one but themselves
Ach now come on. In no way that was a cheap shot. Mayo deluding themselves? Maybe you should ask how Dublin only scored a handful of points  (some of which were soft frees) against a 14 man mayo team in 35 min of football.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 01, 2020, 11:15:10 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card
Anti-Dublin? I’m the least anti-Dublin person you could meet.
A huge admirer of that Dublin team.
But that to me is a high tackle which is a yellow card imo.
Cheap shot that deserved a red card. Mayo were rubbish up front and if they use the red card to delude themselves about the result they're fooling no one but themselves

Dublin weren't exactly excelling themselves either anywhere on the pitch before the red card. I do agree with regards the Mayo forwards, how many wides from 'scorable' frees and indeed overall? But the red card and the goal changed the game in my opinion. I'm not saying that we would have won it but it would probably mean the Dubs having to up the tempo a bit.

Probably a boring game for the neutrals watching it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: moysider on February 01, 2020, 11:16:28 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card
Anti-Dublin? I’m the least anti-Dublin person you could meet.
A huge admirer of that Dublin team.
But that to me is a high tackle which is a yellow card imo.
Cheap shot that deserved a red card. Mayo were rubbish up front and if they use the red card to delude themselves about the result they're fooling no one but themselves
Ach now come on. In no way that was a cheap shot. Mayo deluding themselves? Maybe you should ask how Dublin only scored a handful of points  (some of which were soft frees) against a 14 man mayo team in 35 min of football.

+1.
Red card ( 9 times out of 10 a yellow) decided the game early. After that it was only a matter of how much Dublin would win by. Unfortunate for the large attendance that showed up, but that's the way it goes. Good night out ruined.
 Under the circumstances I was happy enough with how Mayo did. Put it to bed and move on.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: moysider on February 01, 2020, 11:31:40 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card
Anti-Dublin? I’m the least anti-Dublin person you could meet.
A huge admirer of that Dublin team.
But that to me is a high tackle which is a yellow card imo.
Cheap shot that deserved a red card. Mayo were rubbish up front and if they use the red card to delude themselves about the result they're fooling no one but themselves

Dublin weren't exactly excelling themselves either anywhere on the pitch before the red card. I do agree with regards the Mayo forwards, how many wides from 'scorable' frees and indeed overall? But the red card and the goal changed the game in my opinion. I'm not saying that we would have won it but it would probably mean the Dubs having to up the tempo a bit.

Probably a boring game for the neutrals watching it.

 Why the f**k did Diarmuid not kick all the frees? Better striker of the ball than Cillian or anybody else.
Once the red card happened it was over anyway so it is just about the housekeeping bits that are the most damaging in the long run.
 Most Mayo players played very well. If I were Horan I would be happy out. That result tonight means f**k all. Going forward Mayo's biggest concern is keeping Ruane and Mullin. Mullin class again tonight.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: highorlow on February 01, 2020, 11:40:24 PM
How did the trouble on the terrace start tonight?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: moysider on February 01, 2020, 11:43:54 PM
How did the trouble on the terrace start tonight?

Trouble?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: highorlow on February 01, 2020, 11:48:11 PM
Aye, skelping going on behind the goals, looked like local teens v middle aged Dubs
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: giveballaghback on February 01, 2020, 11:51:59 PM
The booing by the mayo supporters was a disgrace and has no place in gaa.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 01, 2020, 11:59:52 PM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card
Anti-Dublin? I’m the least anti-Dublin person you could meet.
A huge admirer of that Dublin team.
But that to me is a high tackle which is a yellow card imo.
Cheap shot that deserved a red card. Mayo were rubbish up front and if they use the red card to delude themselves about the result they're fooling no one but themselves

Dublin weren't exactly excelling themselves either anywhere on the pitch before the red card. I do agree with regards the Mayo forwards, how many wides from 'scorable' frees and indeed overall? But the red card and the goal changed the game in my opinion. I'm not saying that we would have won it but it would probably mean the Dubs having to up the tempo a bit.

Probably a boring game for the neutrals watching it.

 Why the f**k did Diarmuid not kick all the frees? Better striker of the ball than Cillian or anybody else.
Once the red card happened it was over anyway so it is just about the housekeeping bits that are the most damaging in the long run.
 Most Mayo players played very well. If I were Horan I would be happy out. That result tonight means f**k all. Going forward Mayo's biggest concern is keeping Ruane and Mullin. Mullin class again tonight.

Agree totally. Where is Ruane? I thought I heard his name mentioned on the radio playing against Galway in the FBD, but he wasn't named last week or this week.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on February 02, 2020, 07:31:02 AM
The booing by the mayo supporters was a disgrace and has no place in gaa.

Yes , don’t like it myself , booing officials is out of order , booing a free kick is also wrong but targeting a player and booing him the whole game in a soccer style culture is fo o kin disgusting and only once have I witnessed that .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: highorlow on February 02, 2020, 08:45:03 AM
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Yes , don’t like it myself , booing officials is out of order , booing a free kick is also wrong but targeting a player and booing him the whole game in a soccer style culture is fo o kin disgusting and only once have I witnessed that

The animals ? Last year?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 02, 2020, 09:10:49 AM
Aye, skelping going on behind the goals, looked like local teens v middle aged Dubs

I stood behind the goals myself, had great craic with the Dubs around me I must say. I didn't see what started it, but what was concerning from my point of view was the amount of Dubs running down to see what was happening, young and old, why bother run down when it's none of your business. I don't think anyone got hurt as the Gardaí were there early.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 02, 2020, 09:11:09 AM
If I was handed a 1pt defeat and a good performance prior to our game in Tralee I would have taken it no bother, however, in the context of last nights game we definitely left that one behind us and badly so at that.  To have created so many chances in the first half and taken so few was extremely disappointing with Shane and Damien being to the fore in that regard.  The longer the game progressed in the 2nd half we were definitely in the ascendency and making Kerry look quite rudderless at times.  Walsh was now in full flow and by a distance the outstanding player on view.  Once again, Cillian had another brain fart and we just did not manage that 10 min period when we were down to 14 very well at all, turned over too much ball in our own back line and were constantly outing ourselves under pressure. 
A very enjoyable game of football overall and a cracking atmosphere to boot  in Tralee - very wet drive home though!!! Onwards we go to Letterkenny.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: ballinaman on February 02, 2020, 10:20:49 AM
That was a joke of a red card in Castlebar.
High tackle - yellow all day long.

Ah jaysus, take off those anti dub glasses. Red card all day long. Mayo looking very limited up front regardless of red card
Anti-Dublin? I’m the least anti-Dublin person you could meet.
A huge admirer of that Dublin team.
But that to me is a high tackle which is a yellow card imo.
Cheap shot that deserved a red card. Mayo were rubbish up front and if they use the red card to delude themselves about the result they're fooling no one but themselves

Dublin weren't exactly excelling themselves either anywhere on the pitch before the red card. I do agree with regards the Mayo forwards, how many wides from 'scorable' frees and indeed overall? But the red card and the goal changed the game in my opinion. I'm not saying that we would have won it but it would probably mean the Dubs having to up the tempo a bit.

Probably a boring game for the neutrals watching it.

 Why the f**k did Diarmuid not kick all the frees? Better striker of the ball than Cillian or anybody else.
Once the red card happened it was over anyway so it is just about the housekeeping bits that are the most damaging in the long run.
 Most Mayo players played very well. If I were Horan I would be happy out. That result tonight means f**k all. Going forward Mayo's biggest concern is keeping Ruane and Mullin. Mullin class again tonight.

Agree totally. Where is Ruane? I thought I heard his name mentioned on the radio playing against Galway in the FBD, but he wasn't named last week or this week.
Shoulder injury for NUIG Sigerson game a few weeks back.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on February 02, 2020, 10:23:21 AM
The booing by the mayo supporters was a disgrace and has no place in gaa.

It was poor alright
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: MayoBuck on February 02, 2020, 12:40:35 PM
Thought there were some positives for us last night but the game was over after we lost a man. O'Hora was very good again as was Plunkett. We'll need him to kick on if Boyle is out for a while. Oisin Mullin I presume is gone with the U20s next weekend and it says a lot that he'll be a big miss for the seniors vs Meath.

Coen and Diarmuid did well in midfield considering the 2 guys Dublin had there. Aidan O'Shea also had a strong 1st half but we'll need a full game out of him next weekend.

Our freetaking problems appeared again unfortunately. I'd probably start Loftus against Meath for the close range ones and let Diarmuid take the rest. When it was 15 v 15 we gave some good long kickpasses into the full forward line. That's one thing Jordan Flynn does well. James Carr won pretty much every ball that went in. I'd like to see him and Tommy Conroy start next weekend.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on February 02, 2020, 01:08:00 PM
If I was handed a 1pt defeat and a good performance prior to our game in Tralee I would have taken it no bother, however, in the context of last nights game we definitely left that one behind us and badly so at that.  To have created so many chances in the first half and taken so few was extremely disappointing with Shane and Damien being to the fore in that regard.  The longer the game progressed in the 2nd half we were definitely in the ascendency and making Kerry look quite rudderless at times.  Walsh was now in full flow and by a distance the outstanding player on view.  Once again, Cillian had another brain fart and we just did not manage that 10 min period when we were down to 14 very well at all, turned over too much ball in our own back line and were constantly outing ourselves under pressure. 
A very enjoyable game of football overall and a cracking atmosphere to boot  in Tralee - very wet drive home though!!! Onwards we go to Letterkenny.
How did you think Mulkerrin and Heaney did in the fb line?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 02, 2020, 02:08:10 PM
If I was handed a 1pt defeat and a good performance prior to our game in Tralee I would have taken it no bother, however, in the context of last nights game we definitely left that one behind us and badly so at that.  To have created so many chances in the first half and taken so few was extremely disappointing with Shane and Damien being to the fore in that regard.  The longer the game progressed in the 2nd half we were definitely in the ascendency and making Kerry look quite rudderless at times.  Walsh was now in full flow and by a distance the outstanding player on view.  Once again, Cillian had another brain fart and we just did not manage that 10 min period when we were down to 14 very well at all, turned over too much ball in our own back line and were constantly outing ourselves under pressure. 
A very enjoyable game of football overall and a cracking atmosphere to boot  in Tralee - very wet drive home though!!! Onwards we go to Letterkenny.
How did you think Mulkerrin and Heaney did in the fb line?
I thought they both did well and Mulkerrin especially considering the quality of ball that was going in to Clifford in the first half.  A forward of Cliffords quality will kick scores all day if he get a good service.    Once Galway repelled the initial Kerry attack they were very good and pushing them out beyond the 45 and were quite successful in turning them over.  John Daly again was excellent and is really turning into a cornerstone of our defence.  Overall a very good performance and just a pity we didn’t at least take a point out of it which would have been deserved. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on February 02, 2020, 02:57:33 PM
Meath 0-04
Donegal 0-01

Donegal missed a peno, saved by Marcus Brennan who started in goal.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on February 02, 2020, 03:07:04 PM
Meath 0-04
Donegal 2-02

McGill on a black card. Donegal have had 3 penalties scoring 2.


Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: StephenC on February 02, 2020, 03:09:28 PM
Meath 0-04
Donegal 2-02

McGill on a black card. Donegal have had 3 penalties scoring 2.

1 from 2 penalties, first goal was from open play.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: BennyCake on February 02, 2020, 03:12:24 PM
Meath 0-04
Donegal 2-02

McGill on a black card. Donegal have had 3 penalties scoring 2.

Only 2 pens mentioned on radio. Murphy scored one, missed one
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on February 02, 2020, 03:17:28 PM
Ok. Misheard on LMFM. Thought they said the first goal was a penalty
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on February 02, 2020, 03:47:49 PM
Meath 0-05
Donegal 3-04

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: J70 on February 02, 2020, 03:51:17 PM
According to Highland Radio, Murphy lucky to not get a red.

3-5 to 0-6
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: straightred on February 02, 2020, 03:54:04 PM
Monaghan beat tyrone by 4.
Assuming donegal see it out vs meath its hard to see any way back for meath. Anyone's guess as to who the other team to go down will be
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 02, 2020, 03:54:29 PM
Hardly worth a Banty fist pump but some joy as Tyrone were run ragged in Blayney.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on February 02, 2020, 03:58:51 PM
Monaghan beat tyrone by 4.
Assuming donegal see it out vs meath its hard to see any way back for meath. Anyone's guess as to who the other team to go down will be

It’s never as straight forward as you’d think , Meath beat our bucks next Sunday and we are favourites to drop .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on February 02, 2020, 04:46:32 PM
I don’t think we’re beating anyone sadly. You can’t compete at the highest level with a makeshift forward line. We really quickly run out of ideas against a packed defense and don’t have the individuals available to make something happen. Newman if fit could do something but we won’t have him at all i the league.

It sounded like the referee bottled it and gave Murphy a yellow but I’m sure there’ll be a hundred different opinions on it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: LeoMc on February 02, 2020, 05:55:15 PM
Hardly worth a Banty fist pump but some joy as Tyrone were run ragged in Blayney.
It was telling of Monaghans dominance that the entire spine of the Tyrone team, bar Brennan, was off by the middle of the second half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: southtyronegael on February 02, 2020, 06:31:00 PM
Gonna be a struggle to stay up now for Tyrone. Very tough run of games to come. Piss poor today.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: twohands!!! on February 02, 2020, 06:41:00 PM
Jaysus, Galway f**k it away down in Tralee. 3 points up. Game well into added time and Kerry finish with 1-1 to win by a point.

Sounded like some controversy over a black card at the end there and the officials not letting the player back on the field.
Yeah McDaid wasn’t let on after his ten minutes were up as Gleeson was preparing to take a kick out.[/b]
Kerry kicked the winner from the next play.
Sounds like we were caught out trying to play keep ball at the back for the Kerry goal.
It seems we got a good performance though and this will be a good learning experience for that team.
On another note - that is Cillians third black card in 4 games this year - he really needs to sort that indiscipline out.

Was there a stoppage/delay after the black card was given but before play resumed ? - for an injury or something - the clock on the ten minutes only starts from the moment that play restarts after the black card is issued and the player has to wait until there is a break in play to come on again - it's not just a matter of once ten minutes are over they can come back on ?
Would be a pretty bad one for the 4th official to get wrong given all the recent talk about the new rules.

On the black card thing, I'd love to see the stats already in terms of them affecting games - like how much actual game time did the player miss, what sort of scoring difference have the teams with the man advantage gained, what is the record of teams who have had players black card versus the teams who haven't had anyone black-carded.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if managers start to sub off players who pick up black cards in the first half of games rather than risk picking up a yellow card and a straight red down the stretch.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: twohands!!! on February 02, 2020, 06:44:13 PM
Gonna be a struggle to stay up now for Tyrone. Very tough run of games to come. Piss poor today.

Any word on Cathal McShane - saw an article that said he was meeting Harte this weekend and that Adelaide were keen to sign him.
You'd think if he wasn't heading to Oz he'd have had some sort of involvement today given he was in the crowd for the Meath game.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on February 02, 2020, 06:48:05 PM
Gonna be a struggle to stay up now for Tyrone. Very tough run of games to come. Piss poor today.

Tyrones league from does be all over the place. How many years have they started slowly playing as you say piss poor and then hit good form whereby they are capable of beating any team in this division as seen with the win over Dublin in Croke Park last year
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 02, 2020, 07:17:26 PM
If Meath lose all their games, 6 points could well be the safety mark.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Watcher on February 02, 2020, 07:20:55 PM
It's meath and an other
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on February 02, 2020, 07:27:56 PM
Do ye not think Meath will beat out ladeens or at least give them a chance of doing so ? There is nothing to suggest we are better than Meath. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: StephenC on February 02, 2020, 07:31:01 PM
I don’t think we’re beating anyone sadly. You can’t compete at the highest level with a makeshift forward line. We really quickly run out of ideas against a packed defense and don’t have the individuals available to make something happen. Newman if fit could do something but we won’t have him at all i the league.

It sounded like the referee bottled it and gave Murphy a yellow but I’m sure there’ll be a hundred different opinions on it.

Watching it on TG4, I reckon a yellow was fair, and consistent with how the rest of the game was reffed.

Meaths defence was solid, but lacked any kind of cutting edge up front.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Dubhaltach on February 02, 2020, 08:04:07 PM
15 thousand people travelled to MacHale Park last night and all of them may as well have gone home again after 15 minutes due to the rash decision by Barry Cassidy. Everyone makes mistakes but the fact that he didn't even consult with his linesman was particularly poor. It's pointless analysing the game after that because the contest was as good as over.

From a Mayo point of view, one thing that has to be mentioned is the goal keeping issue. Rob Hennelly had a decent game last night and it's clear he's great kicker of a ball (when the squeeze isn't on him). He wasn't really at fault for the goal yesterday but at the same time, it was the type of goal that Clarke rarely concedes as Clarke usually takes man and ball out of it. I was looking at some stats recently and they don't lie. Excluding games against New York and London, Rob hasn't kept a clean sheet in championship since the Connacht Final in 2014. Last year, out of 71 matches across the championship, only on 5 occasions did the team that conceded more goals win. Conceding goals has been killing Mayo for the last decade and while the blame can't be fully placed with Rob, it's clear that a big mistake is never too far away with him. Last night he dropped another high ball that on another day could easily have gone in. I don't want to slate the lad because I'm sure he puts in hours every week but if we play him again come championship, it is going to end in tears...and the blame is going to rest with James Horan.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Eire90 on February 02, 2020, 10:21:53 PM
i still think we should have semi final beetween 2nd and 3rd
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on February 02, 2020, 11:00:33 PM
Odds for topping winning the league:

Dublin 11/8
Kerry 3/1
Donegal 7/1
Mayo 8/1
Tyrone 8/1
Galway 10/1
Monaghan 16/1
Meath 50/1

To be relegated:

Meath 2/5
Monaghan 11/8
Galway 5/2
Tyrone 11/4
Mayo 3/1
Donegal 7/2
Kerry 8/1
Dublin 33/1

The bookies think Meath are a cert to go down with any one of the next 5 along with them.

Was just looking at the fixtures and Tyrone have a tough draw this year, home to Meath in the first round which presumably Meath will be fired up for and after that they have 4 away games plus home games against Dublin & Kerry.

Odds for winning the league outright:

Dublin 5/6
Kerry 9/4
Donegal 11/2
Mayo 28/1
Tyrone 20/1
Galway 12/1
Monaghan 25/1
Meath 500/1

To be relegated:

Meath 1/33
Monaghan 9/4
Galway 7/2
Tyrone 5/2
Mayo 15/8
Donegal 15/2
Kerry 50/1
Dublin 200/1
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: From the Bunker on February 02, 2020, 11:03:22 PM
i still think we should have semi final beetween 2nd and 3rd

Yes, especially if Dublin finish third. That is revenue that could be lost.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Never beat the deeler on February 03, 2020, 06:24:47 AM
Odds for topping winning the league:

Dublin 11/8
Kerry 3/1
Donegal 7/1
Mayo 8/1
Tyrone 8/1
Galway 10/1
Monaghan 16/1
Meath 50/1

To be relegated:

Meath 2/5
Monaghan 11/8
Galway 5/2
Tyrone 11/4
Mayo 3/1
Donegal 7/2
Kerry 8/1
Dublin 33/1

The bookies think Meath are a cert to go down with any one of the next 5 along with them.

Was just looking at the fixtures and Tyrone have a tough draw this year, home to Meath in the first round which presumably Meath will be fired up for and after that they have 4 away games plus home games against Dublin & Kerry.

Odds for winning the league outright:

Dublin 5/6
Kerry 9/4
Donegal 11/2
Mayo 28/1
Tyrone 20/1
Galway 12/1
Monaghan 25/1
Meath 500/1

To be relegated:

Meath 1/33
Monaghan 9/4
Galway 7/2
Tyrone 5/2
Mayo 15/8
Donegal 15/2
Kerry 50/1
Dublin 200/1

You could argue that Mayo's odds are too long (value) in both cases
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 03, 2020, 09:54:10 AM
Relying on highlights Galway really did miss a whole host of goal chances.

Did Duane get hooked early on because of poor performance? Sean Kelly did a good job at full back against Monaghan last year, wouldn't mind him getting a run as corner back.

How did D'Arcy & Steede do in the middle?

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: yellowcard on February 03, 2020, 10:52:38 AM
I thought the Mayo sending off was harsh but not really surprising. It's part of the sanitising of gaelic football that has been taking place year on year. It's long past the stage of being a physical contact sport where yellow cards are now doled out for fairly trivial personal fouls and in the process bringing down the threshold for what is deemed a red card offence. Colm O'Rourke could now be in bother with RTE after making a fairly throwaway remark about pansy boys as the PC brigade come out in force to attack him. Given RTEs recent propensity for political correctness it wouldn't surprise me if he too now faces the axe. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: rosnarun on February 03, 2020, 11:06:09 AM
I thought the Mayo sending off was harsh but not really surprising. It's part of the sanitising of gaelic football that has been taking place year on year. It's long past the stage of being a physical contact sport where yellow cards are now doled out for fairly trivial personal fouls and in the process bringing down the threshold for what is deemed a red card offence. Colm O'Rourke could now be in bother with RTE after making a fairly throwaway remark about pansy boys as the PC brigade come out in force to attack him. Given RTEs recent propensity for political correctness it wouldn't surprise me if he too now faces the axe. 
very much people looking for offence , a pansy boy to is a soft mummys boy who goes down howling at the slightest touch ie. a tiernan McCann ytpe , nothing to do with Homosexuality
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 03, 2020, 11:29:19 AM
There's a bit too much backslapping elsewhere online from Galway people about the return to playing good football in a match that we lost and should have won, Kerry were down some key men like O'Shea, Morley, O'Sullivan and Moran as well so no point in getting carried away with what was ultimately a loss to a Kerry team not at full tilt.
Some fans taking the usual plámás/bullshit from Kerry about "traditional football" - while they've undeservedly mugged Galway for two points - as some sort of meaningful compliment is a mentality we could do without, Kerry don't care a jot what way they have to play the game once they win.

And there's nothing surer than Kerry won that game Saturday when they shouldn't have even got a draw out of it, while it is only the league how many times do we see Kerry or Kilkenny win matches they have absolutely no right to on the balance of play? They are ruthless winners but also have an inner belief from all the years of expecting to win every match. For Galway in both codes it's very much the opposite, to beat the likes of them by the bare minimum point we seem to have to play to the level of a 5 or 6 points better team. Galway were about a 3/4 point better team overall on Saturday and still lost.
Galway football needs to get in the habit of seeing out matches like that, while much of this is down to experience, situational preparation has to come into it as well. We know that Dublin account for these specific match situations in training with the team a man down chasing a score, 13 on 15 defending a lead, etc.
Surely Joyce will take this hard lesson and get Galway to try and adapt better to those game management situations at the end of matches, we still have to remember I suppose that it's a sharp learning curve for the man in charge as well no matter how good or bad he'll turn out as a manager, there's very little previous experience there.
I was happy to hear him come straight out after the match and say that it was our own fault as Galway had more than enough chances, that we were the better team and it was Galway losing rather than Kerry winning, because he is correct on all counts. While some are wary of his bullishness so far in terms of some of his statements, personally I think it's refreshing to hear a manager just come out and call it like it is, he has a winning mentality and that's what the Galway players need to genuinely believe themselves to get to the top.

While a good performance would been taken beforehand and Galway were thankfully very competitive, there's a huge amount of improvement and things to clean up from that match and also the Monaghan game.
The amount of high, aimless balls pumped into the forwards at times was bizarre, hospital passes is the correct term. While it's great that we are now trying to get the ball into the scoring zone as quickly as possible, when the ball genuinely isn't on at all, there's no point basically just kicking it away which happened more than it should have the last day.
The balance of trying to successfully defend the opposition while more numbers stay up front isn't quite there yet either. Kerry got in easily enough for a number of their chances, particularly in the first half so there's plenty of improvement needed in keeping the score down.
Kickouts still have a long way to go as well.

The single biggest thing that needs to improve though is the finishing, the approach play at times has been a joy to watch but the end result must be a score.
Galway lost a game they should have won and the main reason is the exact same problem that cost Galway umpteen times under Kevin Walsh as well, this lack of execution in front of the posts.
Laid bare the litany of misses from the match in the first half alone is simply not good enough:
Ó Laoi from a mark - no pressure and about 30 yards out, hopelessly kicked high up into the air;
Michael Daly dragged a good chance across the goal with a poor shot, need to hit the target at least;
Shane Walsh bad wide from play:
Shane Walsh mark on the 21, a handy kick that he should have nailed instead of putting just wide on the near post;
Ó Laoi goal chance which should have been stuck, at this level they need to be basically gimmes;
Great Comer goal chance from a high ball in where he didn't connect with his shot at all through a combination of losing his footing and being pulled by the Kerry player.

Even the first score of the game for Galway from Comer should have been into the back of the net instead of over the bar. People are raving about the turnaround in approach and about the quality of the forwards but until that Galway team starts consistently hitting a conversion rate that approaches what Dublin usually get, they will still lose games no matter what playing system is employed. Moving forward hitting only 6/16 chances, as in the first half in Tralee, simply isn't going to cut it.
Shot selection plays a key role here as well and the likes of the low percentage chance that Heaney took with the outside of the boot in the second half which never got near the goal and sailed wide, has to be stamped out. Even the huge point that McDaid scored, great that it went over but it was about a 2/10 chance, is that really a shot that should be taken on in the first place?

On the pitch, certainly for the moment I wouldn't change the goalkeeper, he is a much, much better shot stopper than anything we've had there in a long time. Way more presence and size in the box than the likes of Power. Nice dispossession of O'Brien at a crucial stage at the end of the match as well.
I do say "for the moment" though because the kick outs have to improve and if Gleeson can't show development through the league on this then maybe it will be time to chance someone else. Galway lost two kickouts to hop balls under the rule where players cannot be in the semi circle, the second one resulted in a handy free in and point for Kerry and it was particularly bad because Sean Kelly just walked across into the area while the kick was being driven out, a very costly mistake.
It was disappointing not to see some set plays for the kicks when Galway were under severe pressure trying to hold on down the stretch and Kerry were coming in waves.

Galway FB line had a very difficult assignment for the night and at the start of the match I thought they were going to get cleaned out altogether.
In fairness to the Galway backs, Clifford is something else when given any bit of space, Mulkerrin (or any back in the country) left completely isolated one on one against a top player like that is just in damage limitation mode.
Heaney and Mulkerrin had some nice pass break ups and takeaways in the second half, generally played Kerry tighter and better as well. Mulkerrin did however make a key mistake by giving the ball away for the Kerry goal out on the sideline, it was compounded by his being totally out of position as a result. He has had a reasonable start to his Senior career though, he's certainly a better athlete at the position than SAOC was last year.

Following on from the Dublin match, James O'Donoghue looks to be back into great form and was some handful. It was a preplanned manoeuvre to take him off at ht apparently and Kerry really missed him in the second half, it certainly eased the pressure on Galway because I thought Tommy Walsh was far less of a threat up front. I'm left wondering how much of the Galway defensive improvement after the break was down to the absence of O'Donoghue in the 2nd period, he was just that dangerous in the 1st. If he is back to anything approaching his FOTY form with Clifford alongside him - watch out the rest of the country.
Duane was hooked after only 20 minutes, tough to see but at least the sideline seem like they are going to be decisive in substituting players that are not performing on the day. Kelly did a bit better after his introduction but still had two very costly mistakes, once losing possession under no pressure with a terrible attempt at a solo and the other for not knowing or remembering the kick out rule which directly resulted in a point for Kerry.

For me John Daly is the first man on that Galway team sheet outside of the captain, another fine performance again in Kerry. His general play is a lesson on how effective a player can be by simply always executing the most basic fundamental skills of the game - tackling, kicking, positioning etc. to a consistently high level. He won't show up on any highlights package because flashy play or scoring (as of yet) is not his game but this young lad is a serious footballer.

Gary O'Donnell had a good game, was heavily involved in a lot of the play. In the long term to have any chance of getting to the level of Dublin and Kerry I think G'OD will have to be a bench option with hopefully the likes of Molloy improving the position for Galway, but as a leader and a pro out there on the pitch, Gary is an outstanding servant to Galway football.

McDaid is in the ridiculous position of having received a black card in 3 out of 4 matches this year. FBD cards don't count to a match suspension from the accumulated cards but it is still crazy stuff.
Ultimately that black card in the final ten minutes was the deciding factor in costing Galway the game, the unnecessary nature of it was the most frustrating thing, in possession of the ball in an area where Kerry can't hurt you out by the halfway sideline, lose it badly and then clearly drag the player who's dispossessed you to the ground.
What makes it so unfortunate is that McDaid is getting more and more into it as he goes, he clearly has the capability to be a genuinely top class inter county player and should be a vital player for Galway this year but he won't be trusted with a starting position if he can't avoid the black card.

Steede wasn't in the game at all really, different ballgame required at this level even if he has been recently dominating the top club midfields. I said before the match that judgement couldn't be made on the basis of that one match in Kerry so hopefully he'll kick on during the rest of the league. Has to be noted though that Flynn immediately improved the play in this area once he was in.
D'Arcy played better than Steede but I thought midfield was maybe the one area of the pitch that Kerry definitely shaded Galway. Such a pity that Cooke is unavailable given how this Galway team is now trying to play, I think he'd thrive out there.

Brannigan had the shooting boots on in Tralee with 0-3 from play, had a good game in general play outside of that. Heavily involved in the build up to the first goal and his pace always makes him tricky for the opposition when he's on it. The problem is that he is so inconsistent with his accuracy, if he could just sort that out he'll definitely be starting come the summer as he presents a tough match up for any HB when on form.

Comer was in and out of the match, hard to know how he's really recovered from that very serious ankle injury, early days yet but he offers something so different and effective for Galway that it's vital to get him back to 2018 form.

Finnerty wasn't in the game at all and no surprise to see he didn't reappear after half time. While I admire the confidence in throwing Matthew Tierney straight into that match, this gamble completely backfired as he didn't get a kick in the second half and looked lost out there. Varley was far more effective when he entered the match and should have been the sub made at ht.

While his brother is going from strength to strength, Michael Daly is going in the opposite direction. It's very evident that a lack of sufficient pace to get away from tackles and to get into space to work the shot is really his biggest problem at Senior inter county. He worked hard, is generally good for a point most matches and was certainly better than against Monaghan but for a player we expected great things of, it's just not happening to that level, I doubt he'll start come championship unless there is a huge turnaround. Varley should absolutely be starting ahead of him on form this year.

While there's been errors with free taking in the two matches, that aside Shane Walsh is playing out of his skin, the best player on that pitch Saturday night. Absolutely majestic with the ball in hand, he is really worth any admission fee to watch. Galway need him to maintain this level of play and stay injury free but if he can do that the sky is the limit for the summer, speed kills out there and he is as quick with the ball in hand as without.

The McDaid black card was the correct call from referee Anthony Nolan but you have to laugh when the likes of Tony Leen in the Examiner rated the referee's performance as "did absolutely fine." A similar foul on Flynn went completely unpunished, even a couple of extremely partizan Kerry fans beside me in the terrace expected the black card to be issued. The lack of consistency is the most infuriating thing, I knew McDaid was gone as soon as he fouled but it should be the same for both sides. Although it would have been extremely soft penalty if given for the slight pulling on Comer when going for goal in the first half, I do wonder if it happened at the other end would he have run up to the goal with the two arms stuck out. He gave a 45 for O'Donnell going out over the end line when he was literally pushed over it by two Kerry hands to the back, obvious calls like that which aren't correctly made are inexplicable
Shouldn't be too surprised that Nolan is the same ref who rode Cork sideways in the Munster final last year with an absurd 27-11 free count difference, Kerry fans will be keeping a close eye on the referee appointments later in the year for the big championship matches hoping that Anthony Nolan will be there for them, as he definitely won't do them any harm, the only thing he missed for them was a blatant pick off the ground by John Daly before he played in Comer for the first Galway score.

Galway's own fault that we lost but I wish that we had more of a home advantage ourselves, given the inconsistent way the game as a whole is officiated by the men in black, it makes all the difference in tight matches. The history of poor support that the football team receive means that the type of home advantage, like Kerry have in Tralee, that can sway referees is something that we simply don't get in Pearse or Tuam. Tralee itself was a great venue under the lights, packed crowd, perfect conditions for football.

Meath look doomed for relegation already but it will be very tight for the other spot, even a point Saturday in a tough away venue would have put Galway in a great position to kick on and at least be in a position to retain Division one status as early as possible. Donegal is another tough outing, could do with picking up something from that match given that two vital points were tossed away at the weekend.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on February 03, 2020, 11:58:30 AM
Very good post as usual AFA. Totally agree re PJ's attitude to the defeat and his bullishness in general.
The chance conversion rate has unfortunately carried on from the KW era as this killed us in so many games during his tenure.
What you say re Brannigans inconsistency in terms of shooting (he'll get 2-3 points one day and kick 5 wides the next) could equally apply to Michael Daly imo. He just kicks far too many wides from good scoring positions.
Hopefully Comer will get better as the league progresses as I know that the ankle is still troubling him somewhat currently.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Manning18 on February 03, 2020, 04:35:03 PM
Comer thrives on football. He was at his peak in the 2018 league after a proper run of Sigerson previous. I think he's on a very nice trajectory to be hitting top shape come championship provided he stays injury free. Performances for his first couple of games back are slightly ahead of where I expected.

Very good right up again AFA and good point on Cooke. I wonder is there even half a chance he could be tempted back given the general air of excitement around? This season was really one he shouldve been coming into his prime after flashes last year amid injuries.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: seafoid on February 03, 2020, 05:21:21 PM
The odds are nuts. Last week Mayo were 10/1 and Monaghan 40/1.
Today Mayo are 28/1 and Monaghan 25/1. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 03, 2020, 06:06:02 PM
Comer thrives on football. He was at his peak in the 2018 league after a proper run of Sigerson previous. I think he's on a very nice trajectory to be hitting top shape come championship provided he stays injury free. Performances for his first couple of games back are slightly ahead of where I expected.

Very good right up again AFA and good point on Cooke. I wonder is there even half a chance he could be tempted back given the general air of excitement around? This season was really one he shouldve been coming into his prime after flashes last year amid injuries.

You can tell Comer is not back to his full explosiveness yet and is probably a good bit short of full match sharpness. Hopefully by the Summer and more game time under his belt he'll get there.

Doubt Cooke will be back this year. As far as I know he's not just gone playing a bit of ball over in the US. He's working over there as part of his qualification/career. What that is I don't know as he was still in college last year. Will be a big loss alright as he's probably the closet we have to a Brian Fenton type who can make those runs from midfield and kick over points from distance.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Manning18 on February 03, 2020, 06:13:02 PM
Id imagine Cooke's on the J Visa now that I think of it, the 1 year you get directly after finishing college. It's a one time thing also, so while i'm disappointed he's not thinking about his football at such an important year/age, that visa is a very hard one to pass up if you get the chance. I certainly regret not doing it personally
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 04, 2020, 11:33:28 AM
The odds are nuts. Last week Mayo were 10/1 and Monaghan 40/1.
Today Mayo are 28/1 and Monaghan 25/1.
Pie in the sky.
It's the relegation odds which are more relevant to both teams and Tyrone.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 04, 2020, 10:10:57 PM
The early in the week team announcements for the Galway Senior Footballers continue, the selection for Donegal is:

1   Connor Gleeson
2   Sean Kelly
3   Sean Mulkerrin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Gary O'Donnell
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Cein D'Arcy
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Michael Daly
13   Robert Finnerty
14   Shane Walsh
15   Liam Boyle

Two changes from Kerry starting lineup with Kelly and Boyle in for Duane and Ó Laoi.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on February 04, 2020, 10:21:07 PM
The early in the week team announcements for the Galway Senior Footballers continue, the selection for Donegal is:

1   Connor Gleeson
2   Sean Kelly
3   Sean Mulkerrin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Gary O'Donnell
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Cein D'Arcy
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Michael Daly
13   Robert Finnerty
14   Shane Walsh
15   Liam Boyle

Two changes from Kerry starting lineup with Kelly and Boyle in for Duane and Ó Laoi.
That’s Michael Boyle rather than Liam I think?
I’m surprised he’s back in tbh.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 04, 2020, 10:22:45 PM
Wonder will the game even go ahead? Forecast looks very bad for Sunday.

The @Galway_GAA team to play @officialdonegal on Sunday #GAA ⬇️

Connor Gleeson
Seán Kelly
Seán Ó Maoilchiaráin
Johnny Heaney
Gary O’Donnell
John Daly
Cillian McDaid
Ronan Steede
Céin D’Arcy
Eamonn Brannigan
Damien Comer
Michael Daly
Rob Finnerty
Shane Walsh
Mikey Boyle
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 04, 2020, 10:32:05 PM
The early in the week team announcements for the Galway Senior Footballers continue, the selection for Donegal is:

1   Connor Gleeson
2   Sean Kelly
3   Sean Mulkerrin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Gary O'Donnell
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Cein D'Arcy
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Michael Daly
13   Robert Finnerty
14   Shane Walsh
15   Liam Boyle

Two changes from Kerry starting lineup with Kelly and Boyle in for Duane and Ó Laoi.
That’s Michael Boyle rather than Liam I think?
I’m surprised he’s back in tbh.
Yep, it was incorrect on the Galway GAA website initially, so I'm blaming them!
You're not the only one surprised he's back in the lineup either!

Wonder will the game even go ahead? Forecast looks very bad for Sunday.
Call it off on Saturday evening if it's in big doubt.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on February 04, 2020, 10:41:13 PM
I thought Liam Boyle was involved with the squad in the FBD but I could have that wrong.
Was a nice wing back for the minors a few years back though quite small and light physically.
I’m glad Steede is getting another start
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 04, 2020, 11:23:51 PM
A good opportunity for Galway to pick up away win as Donegal are poor in O’Donnell Park.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 05, 2020, 09:45:53 AM
Wonder will the game even go ahead? Forecast looks very bad for Sunday.

The @Galway_GAA team to play @officialdonegal on Sunday #GAA ⬇️

Connor Gleeson
Seán Kelly
Seán Ó Maoilchiaráin
Johnny Heaney
Gary O’Donnell
John Daly
Cillian McDaid
Ronan Steede
Céin D’Arcy
Eamonn Brannigan
Damien Comer
Michael Daly
Rob Finnerty
Shane Walsh
Mikey Boyle
Michael Boyle starting is a surprise based on his previous outing against Monaghan where he looked well off what is required at this level.  Maybe he is showing well in training and is getting another chance to impress.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 05, 2020, 09:53:43 AM
I thought Liam Boyle was involved with the squad in the FBD but I could have that wrong.
Was a nice wing back for the minors a few years back though quite small and light physically.
I’m glad Steede is getting another start
Liam Boyle was definitely named on 26 for the Monaghan league match so he's been in the camp at least.

Not surprised to see Ó Laoi make way but definitely surprised to see Michael Boyle back in there, he looked a nice bit off IC standard in the Monaghan match but maybe unfair to judge on the basis of one match, anyone who saw the match in Kerry and didn't know anything about the players would have probably put Steede in the same category.

Varley very unlucky to be out of the starting 15 again on the basis of performances in the 4 matches this year to date, he's certainly played better than Daly, Boyle and probably Finnerty as well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 05, 2020, 11:39:15 AM
I thought Liam Boyle was involved with the squad in the FBD but I could have that wrong.
Was a nice wing back for the minors a few years back though quite small and light physically.
I’m glad Steede is getting another start
Liam Boyle was definitely named on 26 for the Monaghan league match so he's been in the camp at least.

Not surprised to see Ó Laoi make way but definitely surprised to see Michael Boyle back in there, he looked a nice bit off IC standard in the Monaghan match but maybe unfair to judge on the basis of one match, anyone who saw the match in Kerry and didn't know anything about the players would have probably put Steede in the same category.

Varley very unlucky to be out of the starting 15 again on the basis of performances in the 4 matches this year to date, he's certainly played better than Daly, Boyle and probably Finnerty as well.
100% agree that Varley should be starting based on performances YTD.  He may be carrying a knock for this one as he was down for an extended period of time after a heavy challenge on Shane Enright the other night. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: J70 on February 05, 2020, 12:20:21 PM
A good opportunity for Galway to pick up away win as Donegal are poor in O’Donnell Park.

Haven't won there since 2014. Miserable enough record before that too.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 05, 2020, 10:04:55 PM
Huge game in Navan for us on Sunday. Lose and we'll be in the relegation battle, win and we'll head into the weekend off with some momentum.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on February 05, 2020, 10:19:57 PM
Huge game in Navan for us on Sunday. Lose and we'll be in the relegation battle, win and we'll head into the weekend off with some momentum.
A Mayo win by a bit to spare I'd reckon. Meath are injury hit and don't have any strength in depth to cope.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: omagh_gael on February 05, 2020, 11:14:16 PM
Pretty significant wind storm forecast Saturday evening into Sunday. Chance that some games may be called off?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Ball Hopper on February 06, 2020, 01:18:16 AM
Pretty significant wind storm forecast Saturday evening into Sunday. Chance that some games may be called off?

What would it take to have the Omagh game on Saturday?  Agreement by both teams?  Would attendance be lower?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: MayoBuck on February 06, 2020, 10:45:45 AM
Mayo team named...

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. James McCormack - Claremorris
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
13. Tommy Conroy - The Neale
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore

I could see Aidan O'Shea replacing Ryan O'Donoghue before throw in.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: seafoid on February 06, 2020, 11:59:47 AM
Huge game in Navan for us on Sunday. Lose and we'll be in the relegation battle, win and we'll head into the weekend off with some momentum.
An beal bocht.
Meath are 500/1 to win the NFL.
Mayo are well able for them.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 06, 2020, 12:10:08 PM
Pretty significant wind storm forecast Saturday evening into Sunday. Chance that some games may be called off?
Not the Navan game, Meath is a cold place for namby pamby pansy talk about calling a game off due to  inclement weather.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 06, 2020, 12:15:38 PM
Good news for Tyrone in that Cathal McShane will linger on for the 2020 season.
Who said all those pre-game rosaries were a waste of time? With God on their side, nothing is impossible.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: highorlow on February 06, 2020, 01:55:06 PM
Quote
Not the Navan game, Meath is a cold place for namby pamby pansy talk about calling a game off due to  inclement weather.

Reported
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on February 06, 2020, 05:37:29 PM
Quote
Not the Navan game, Meath is a cold place for namby pamby pansy talk about calling a game off due to  inclement weather.

Reported
Snowflake.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on February 06, 2020, 08:57:23 PM
Mayo team named...

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. James McCormack - Claremorris
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
13. Tommy Conroy - The Neale
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore

I could see Aidan O'Shea replacing Ryan O'Donoghue before throw in.

Eleven changes  I make it from 2017 all ireland final , changing times .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: From the Bunker on February 06, 2020, 09:39:24 PM
Mayo team named...

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. James McCormack - Claremorris
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
13. Tommy Conroy - The Neale
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore

I could see Aidan O'Shea replacing Ryan O'Donoghue before throw in.

Eleven changes  I make it from 2017 all ireland final , changing times .

A changing of the Guard! Not as smooth as Dublin's evolution from the team of 2011.

These things don't happen overnight - Ask Tyrone, Donegal and Kerry.

The GAA should be happy. A strong Dublin is badly needed. The rest are there to make up competition and the rest can fade away in tier  2.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: From the Bunker on February 06, 2020, 09:42:02 PM

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 06, 2020, 09:47:29 PM
Mayo team named...

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. James McCormack - Claremorris
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
13. Tommy Conroy - The Neale
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore

I could see Aidan O'Shea replacing Ryan O'Donoghue before throw in.

Eleven changes  I make it from 2017 all ireland final , changing times .

A changing of the Guard! Not as smooth as Dublin's evolution from the team of 2011.

These things don't happen overnight - Ask Tyrone, Donegal and Kerry.

The GAA should be happy. A strong Dublin is badly needed. The rest are there to make up competition and the rest can fade away in tier  2.

Have you stopped going to intercounty matches?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: From the Bunker on February 06, 2020, 10:24:25 PM
Mayo team named...

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. James McCormack - Claremorris
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
13. Tommy Conroy - The Neale
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore

I could see Aidan O'Shea replacing Ryan O'Donoghue before throw in.

Eleven changes  I make it from 2017 all ireland final , changing times .

A changing of the Guard! Not as smooth as Dublin's evolution from the team of 2011.

These things don't happen overnight - Ask Tyrone, Donegal and Kerry.

The GAA should be happy. A strong Dublin is badly needed. The rest are there to make up competition and the rest can fade away in tier  2.

There a thread here to arouse yourself about the jackeens

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=29541.0

That's the thing! I don't hate the Dubs. I hate all the arse lickers who go around with their heads in the sand trying to pretend it's like the 90's and 00's!

Looking forward to the Dubs Knocking your county off its perch!  ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on February 06, 2020, 10:30:17 PM
Mayo team named...

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. James McCormack - Claremorris
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
13. Tommy Conroy - The Neale
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore

I could see Aidan O'Shea replacing Ryan O'Donoghue before throw in.

Eleven changes  I make it from 2017 all ireland final , changing times .

A changing of the Guard! Not as smooth as Dublin's evolution from the team of 2011.

These things don't happen overnight - Ask Tyrone, Donegal and Kerry.

The GAA should be happy. A strong Dublin is badly needed. The rest are there to make up competition and the rest can fade away in tier  2.

There a thread here to arouse yourself about the jackeens

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=29541.0

That's the thing! I don't hate the Dubs. I hate all the arse lickers who go around with their heads in the sand trying to pretend it's like the 90's and 00's!

Looking forward to the Dubs Knocking your county off its perch!  ;D

Well be knocking the f**kers off their perch  ;D ;D Keane is building a handy team.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: From the Bunker on February 06, 2020, 10:44:35 PM
Mayo team named...

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. James McCormack - Claremorris
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
13. Tommy Conroy - The Neale
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore

I could see Aidan O'Shea replacing Ryan O'Donoghue before throw in.

Eleven changes  I make it from 2017 all ireland final , changing times .

A changing of the Guard! Not as smooth as Dublin's evolution from the team of 2011.

These things don't happen overnight - Ask Tyrone, Donegal and Kerry.

The GAA should be happy. A strong Dublin is badly needed. The rest are there to make up competition and the rest can fade away in tier  2.

There a thread here to arouse yourself about the jackeens

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=29541.0

That's the thing! I don't hate the Dubs. I hate all the arse lickers who go around with their heads in the sand trying to pretend it's like the 90's and 00's!

Looking forward to the Dubs Knocking your county off its perch!  ;D

Well be knocking the f**kers off their perch  ;D ;D Keane is building a handy team.

Looks like you're the one who needs that thread to arouse yourself about the jackeens!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: UpMeeyo on February 07, 2020, 12:14:33 AM
Mayo team named...

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. James McCormack - Claremorris
4. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
5. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore (C)
9. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
13. Tommy Conroy - The Neale
14. James Carr - Ardagh
15. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore

I could see Aidan O'Shea replacing Ryan O'Donoghue before throw in.

Eleven changes  I make it from 2017 all ireland final , changing times .

A changing of the Guard! Not as smooth as Dublin's evolution from the team of 2011.

These things don't happen overnight - Ask Tyrone, Donegal and Kerry.

The GAA should be happy. A strong Dublin is badly needed. The rest are there to make up competition and the rest can fade away in tier  2.

Part changing of the gaurd but also part player unavailability. Only 6 named above started the Dublin Semi last year. barrett/keegan/mattie/fionn mc/cillian wont be relinquishing their starting berths come Summer too easily so If even 3 or 4 of the new lads put their hand up for a starting jersey we'll be looking ok.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: seafoid on February 07, 2020, 02:03:32 AM



Keystone Group UK
Is he moving to England ?
Will the customs border cramp his style?

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: timmyot501 on February 07, 2020, 09:31:43 AM
Monaghan Lineout v the Dubs on Sat night

R Beggan
D Wylie
C Boyle
K Duffy
K O'Connell
R Wylie
M Bannigan
D Hughes
N Kearns
R McAnespie
C McCarthy
D Ward
D Malone
C McGuinness
C McManus
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 07, 2020, 02:29:40 PM
Monaghan Lineout v the Dubs on Sat night

R Beggan
D Wylie
C Boyle
K Duffy
K O'Connell
R Wylie
M Bannigan
D Hughes
N Kearns
R McAnespie
C McCarthy
D Ward
D Malone
C McGuinness
C McManus
Kieran Hughes suspended
Colin Walshe injured?
Jack McCarron Fintan Kelly Shane Carey   subs?

The Monaghan team are in a decent shape, however the Dubs are in better shape than this time last season, maybe due to the new manager needing early validation.
 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: greatpoint on February 07, 2020, 03:49:02 PM
David Brady's current top 5 via Off The Ball.

1. Dublin
2. Kerry
3. Tyrone
4. Galway
5. Monaghan
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: omagh_gael on February 07, 2020, 08:49:19 PM
Good chance we'll see postponements this weekend. Wind is going to be fierce and there's a serious amount of rain coming tonight, Saturday and Sunday.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: southtyronegael on February 07, 2020, 09:28:00 PM
Monaghan Lineout v the Dubs on Sat night

R Beggan
D Wylie
C Boyle
K Duffy
K O'Connell
R Wylie
M Bannigan
D Hughes
N Kearns
R McAnespie
C McCarthy
D Ward
D Malone
C McGuinness
C McManus
Kieran Hughes suspended
Colin Walshe injured?
Jack McCarron Fintan Kelly Shane Carey   subs?

The Monaghan team are in a decent shape, however the Dubs are in better shape than this time last season, maybe due to the new manager needing early validation.
Kieran Hughes free to play after appeal last night.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: southtyronegael on February 07, 2020, 09:29:09 PM
David Brady's current top 5 via Off The Ball.

1. Dublin
2. Kerry
3. Tyrone
4. Galway
5. Monaghan
he must have forgot about Donegal
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: The Hill is Blue on February 07, 2020, 10:16:27 PM
DUBLIN (SF v Monaghan)

1 Evan Comerford Ballymun Kickhams

2 Michael Fitzsimons Cuala

3 David Byrne Nh Olaf

4 Eoin Murchan Na Fianna

5 James McCarthy Ballymun Kickhams

6 Brian Howard Raheny

7 John Small Ballymun Kickhams

8 Brian Fenton Raheny

9 Ciarán Kilkenny Castleknock

10 Niall Scully Templeogue Synge Street

11 Paul Mannion Kilmacud Crokes

12 Kevin McManamon St Jude's

13 Paddy Small Ballymun Kickhams

14 Paddy Andrews St Brigid's

15 Dean Rock Ballymun Kickhams
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: BennyCake on February 08, 2020, 06:50:53 PM
Who’s yer woman being kept warm in the middle by Cooper/McStay?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: gallsman on February 08, 2020, 07:39:42 PM
Jesus Monaghan are 9 up at halftime and have left 7 or 8 easy points out there. The dubs are a mess.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 08, 2020, 07:41:28 PM
It took Dublin 22 minutes to score their first honest point.
I think Monaghan have been playing into the wind, that played a bit with their efforts to score more points from play.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 08, 2020, 07:44:44 PM
Would be a big win for Monaghan this. One more win might be enough to keep them up while it’s possible Dublin could beat everyone else once they bring some of their usual big hitters back.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2020, 07:49:05 PM
Fair play Monaghan. Any wind in Croke Park?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: southtyronegael on February 08, 2020, 07:50:35 PM
Fair play Monaghan. Any wind in Croke Park?
no seems to be a good calm evening.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: BennyCake on February 08, 2020, 07:50:52 PM
There goes my Dublin -4 ffs
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 08, 2020, 08:02:35 PM
Something slightly surreal about seeing a Dublin team play so badly.

Have to imagine they will pick it up a bit in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: hardstation on February 08, 2020, 08:03:50 PM
How was that not a black card for Wylie? It’s exactly what the black card was brought in for.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on February 08, 2020, 08:15:32 PM
i didnt think you could make a sub after a mark
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: From the Bunker on February 08, 2020, 08:38:37 PM
Plámás O'Se co-commentary on the TV thinks we are listening to the game on the Radio!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 08, 2020, 08:42:50 PM
Jaysus Monaghan, threw away a win there, will be disgusted with how that finished up.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on February 08, 2020, 08:44:22 PM
Superb from Dublin tbf although Monaghan will be gutted.

Thought the ref blew for a free after giving advantage in that last play but then let Dublin play on instead of bringing it back to where the original foul was. Not a big deal in a league game but would be massive in championship
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: gallsman on February 08, 2020, 08:44:47 PM
Ref fairly shafted Monaghan right at the end there. That breakaway where McManus was going through and it was three on one should never have been called back.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: clarshack on February 08, 2020, 08:45:49 PM
That game there was a carbon copy of the Tyrone v Dublin league game on the same weekend 3 years ago with the exact same weather conditions.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 08, 2020, 08:47:08 PM
Superb from Dublin tbf although Monaghan will be gutted.

Thought the ref blew for a free after giving advantage in that last play but then let Dublin play on instead of bringing it back to where the original foul was. Not a big deal in a league game but would be massive in championship

 Gutted for monaghan. Ref played for a draw. To play an extra 3 min 20 seconds on top of the allocated 6mins was a joke. Didn't even allow monaghan to progress when they won the final kick out. Can say it's only the league but that was a joke
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Watcher on February 08, 2020, 08:49:12 PM
Fair enough to play three minutes but the extra 20 seconds to let Dublin score was ridiculous
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 08, 2020, 08:51:39 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: hardstation on February 08, 2020, 08:53:16 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?
When Monaghan were lying down to waste the sin bin time, I’m not sure they realised it would be added on at the end.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: gallsman on February 08, 2020, 08:53:27 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?
Six were added on. Two of them a Monaghan lad spent on the ground "injured".
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: charlieTully on February 08, 2020, 08:53:37 PM
Injury time v dublin = keep playing until they get a result.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Sportacus on February 08, 2020, 08:53:59 PM
Dessie is every bit as boring as Jim.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 08, 2020, 08:54:08 PM
That was a draw fluked by Dublin with added assistance from Brannigan.
It was only a league game and I doubt that the result will matter much in the scheme of things but Monaghan will take some positive impetus going into the home games v Mayo and Kerry.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 08, 2020, 08:56:33 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?
Six were added on. Two of them a Monaghan lad spent on the ground "injured".


fair enough but he played 3min and 20 seconds. As soon a mongahn won the kick out he blew it up immediately. Not only do you have to beat the dubs but the ref as well it seems
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 08, 2020, 08:57:44 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?
When Monaghan were lying down to waste the sin bin time, I’m not sure they realised it would be added on at the end.
Perhaps Monaghan folk are not as dumb as you are and  can work out the maths between 6 and 10
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: lenny on February 08, 2020, 08:59:17 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?
Six were added on. Two of them a Monaghan lad spent on the ground "injured".


fair enough but he played 3min and 20 seconds. As soon a mongahn won the kick out he blew it up immediately. Not only do you have to beat the dubs but the ref as well it seems

He gave monaghan a good number of very soft frees throughout the game. The time added on was justified I felt. Very good game given the conditions. Monaghan very impressive.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on February 08, 2020, 08:59:53 PM
Meath v Mayo could be called off .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: hardstation on February 08, 2020, 09:04:20 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?
When Monaghan were lying down to waste the sin bin time, I’m not sure they realised it would be added on at the end.
Perhaps Monaghan folk are not as dumb as you are and  can work out the maths between 6 and 10
There wouldn’t have been 10 minutes injury time if Monaghan players hadn’t spent so much time on the ground pretending to be injured. They were the reason it was 6. They were the reason that increased. They can have no complaints about it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on February 08, 2020, 09:07:29 PM
Monaghan always put too much emphasis into actin the boll ix, if they focused more on football tonight they would of held on.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: BennyCake on February 08, 2020, 09:07:48 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?

Time was spot on. 2 mins stopped, then 90 seconds. Equaliser was around 79.30 which was correct
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 08, 2020, 09:15:07 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?
When Monaghan were lying down to waste the sin bin time, I’m not sure they realised it would be added on at the end.
Perhaps Monaghan folk are not as dumb as you are and  can work out the maths between 6 and 10
There wouldn’t have been 10 minutes injury time if Monaghan players hadn’t spent so much time on the ground pretending to be injured. They were the reason it was 6. They were the reason that increased. They can have no complaints about it.
No surprise that a spoofer cum charlaton like yourself didn't spot that McManus was clear on goal and then pulled back by the ref, for the purposes of a Monaghan player supposedly pretending to be injured??
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on February 08, 2020, 09:16:01 PM
Monaghan always put too much emphasis into actin the boll ix, if they focused more on football tonight they would of held on.

True. The were same against us in 2018
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: hardstation on February 08, 2020, 09:17:00 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?
When Monaghan were lying down to waste the sin bin time, I’m not sure they realised it would be added on at the end.
Perhaps Monaghan folk are not as dumb as you are and  can work out the maths between 6 and 10
There wouldn’t have been 10 minutes injury time if Monaghan players hadn’t spent so much time on the ground pretending to be injured. They were the reason it was 6. They were the reason that increased. They can have no complaints about it.
No surprise that a spoofer cum charlaton like yourself didn't spot that McManus was clear on goal and then pulled back by the ref, for the purposes of a Monaghan player supposedly pretending to be injured??
::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 08, 2020, 09:18:27 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?
When Monaghan were lying down to waste the sin bin time, I’m not sure they realised it would be added on at the end.
Perhaps Monaghan folk are not as dumb as you are and  can work out the maths between 6 and 10
There wouldn’t have been 10 minutes injury time if Monaghan players hadn’t spent so much time on the ground pretending to be injured. They were the reason it was 6. They were the reason that increased. They can have no complaints about it.
No surprise that a spoofer cum charlaton like yourself didn't spot that McManus was clear on goal and then pulled back by the ref, for the purposes of a Monaghan player supposedly pretending to be injured??
::)
So you didn't notice that? no wonder with your head being stuck up Dublin's arse.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: hardstation on February 08, 2020, 09:20:23 PM
Great point.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on February 08, 2020, 09:22:46 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?

Lads lying holding heads. Subs  strolling off the pitch and Beega n delaying restarts. Could have played another couple minutes.  McManus gave a exhibition of point kicking
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on February 08, 2020, 09:23:56 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?
When Monaghan were lying down to waste the sin bin time, I’m not sure they realised it would be added on at the end.
Perhaps Monaghan folk are not as dumb as you are and  can work out the maths between 6 and 10
There wouldn’t have been 10 minutes injury time if Monaghan players hadn’t spent so much time on the ground pretending to be injured. They were the reason it was 6. They were the reason that increased. They can have no complaints about it.
No surprise that a spoofer cum charlaton like yourself didn't spot that McManus was clear on goal and then pulled back by the ref, for the purposes of a Monaghan player supposedly pretending to be injured??
::)
So you didn't notice that? no wonder with your head being stuck up Dublin's arse.

In fairness he gave Monaghan a few handy frees too.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 08, 2020, 09:26:00 PM
Great point.
Myne was an accurate  observation of what happened in added on time, an event which you either missed or ignored and now haven't the balls to recognise but hide behind  your default smarm.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 08, 2020, 09:30:13 PM
Why was near 10 minutes of injury time played?
When Monaghan were lying down to waste the sin bin time, I’m not sure they realised it would be added on at the end.
Perhaps Monaghan folk are not as dumb as you are and  can work out the maths between 6 and 10
There wouldn’t have been 10 minutes injury time if Monaghan players hadn’t spent so much time on the ground pretending to be injured. They were the reason it was 6. They were the reason that increased. They can have no complaints about it.
No surprise that a spoofer cum charlaton like yourself didn't spot that McManus was clear on goal and then pulled back by the ref, for the purposes of a Monaghan player supposedly pretending to be injured??
::)
So you didn't notice that? no wonder with your head being stuck up Dublin's arse.

In fairness he gave Monaghan a few handy frees too.
In fairness, I wasn't at all referring to handy frees by the ref,  but to the ref for pulling back play after a clash when McManus was clear on goal was overly officious and then to have morons here claim it was the Monaghan player rolling around faking it which caused the added on minutes.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: hardstation on February 08, 2020, 09:30:52 PM
Great point.
Myne was an accurate  observation of what happened in added on time, an event which you either missed or ignored and now haven't the balls to recognise but hide behind  your default smarm.
You are the only one that doesn’t recognise that Monaghan players were deliberately wasting time and that the ref was right to add it on. You are the only one with skin in the game.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 08, 2020, 09:32:26 PM
Great point.
Myne was an accurate  observation of what happened in added on time, an event which you either missed or ignored and now haven't the balls to recognise but hide behind  your default smarm.
You are the only one that doesn’t recognise that Monaghan players were deliberately wasting time and that the ref was right to add it on. You are the only one with skin in the game.
So you did not notice that McManus was clear and pulled back for a clash?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: square_ball on February 08, 2020, 10:46:50 PM
There was 2 and a half minutes of play in the original 6 minutes signalled for injury time between injuries and the referee taking 2 minutes to dish out a few yellow cards.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: The Hill is Blue on February 08, 2020, 11:01:18 PM
Brilliant comeback by the Dubs tonight. A game like that is just what the young Dubs needed. Fair dues to Monaghan - they had a great first half, but they will know that you have to do it in both halves to win the game.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Gael85 on February 08, 2020, 11:18:24 PM
Brilliant comeback by the Dubs tonight. A game like that is just what the young Dubs needed. Fair dues to Monaghan - they had a great first half, but they will know that you have to do it in both halves to win the game.

Happy with that Hill. Great heart from the lads.  Young Bugler stepped up.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: straightred on February 09, 2020, 12:29:54 AM
ok - just home. Long post mortem. Great entertainment all all that but monaghan were hosed by branigan.

Mccarthy gets a free in after taking at least 8 steps. Hughes black card for contesting why he didn't get a 45 (which clearly was a 45). The macmanus 1 on 1. Keep playing until Dublin equalise. The list goes on. Hopefully none of these things matter at the end of the day but we need better refs than that.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Manning18 on February 09, 2020, 12:38:36 AM
As someone that was shouting for Monghan throughout the game, I thought the ref was more than fair to them tbh. A number of easy frees given in the second half. The lack of play on to McManus looked bad because he was clear through but the whistle was blown for a contact foul long before that and Dubs stopped playing. Someone will have to do the clock on the injury time, went way over but a hell of a lot of the original 6 was wasted also so hard to know. I'm sure league Sunday will do it
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: hardstation on February 09, 2020, 12:47:24 AM
As someone that was shouting for Monghan throughout the game, I thought the ref was more than fair to them tbh. A number of easy frees given in the second half. The lack of play on to McManus looked bad because he was clear through but the whistle was blown for a contact foul long before that and Dubs stopped playing. Someone will have to do the clock on the injury time, went way over but a hell of a lot of the original 6 was wasted also so hard to know. I'm sure league Sunday will do it
Biased towards the Dubs.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: straightred on February 09, 2020, 12:50:54 AM
I was at it and the conditions were awful so we have to cut everyone some slack including the ref. Having said that i think he was worth 3 points to Dublin. I may or may not be accurate but that's how it looked from my seat.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Gael85 on February 09, 2020, 12:53:56 AM
ok - just home. Long post mortem. Great entertainment all all that but monaghan were hosed by branigan.

Mccarthy gets a free in after taking at least 8 steps. Hughes black card for contesting why he didn't get a 45 (which clearly was a 45). The macmanus 1 on 1. Keep playing until Dublin equalise. The list goes on. Hopefully none of these things matter at the end of the day but we need better refs than that.

Agree on the McCarthy steps. Hughes was black carded on something the linesman saw though not sure incident was. Added injury time was justified as Monaghan msn was down for 2 minutes and subs took age coming off. Monaghan deserved the win but delighted see our lads steal a draw.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on February 09, 2020, 02:04:16 AM
Based on this game and the Dublin Kerry game, it looks like there's an effort this season to make sure that added time is added play time.  In both games 6 mins were added, and in both there was a lot of time during that 6 when the ball was dead.  And in both, the ref added 2-3 minutes on at the end.   Worked for the Dubs today, against them vs. Kerry.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on February 09, 2020, 02:05:35 AM
That missed goal chance at the end of the 1st half probably cost Monaghan the win today.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tonto1888 on February 09, 2020, 07:00:46 AM
ok - just home. Long post mortem. Great entertainment all all that but monaghan were hosed by branigan.

Mccarthy gets a free in after taking at least 8 steps. Hughes black card for contesting why he didn't get a 45 (which clearly was a 45). The macmanus 1 on 1. Keep playing until Dublin equalise. The list goes on. Hopefully none of these things matter at the end of the day but we need better refs than that.

The black card was for an earlier off the ball incident according to the commentators
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tonto1888 on February 09, 2020, 07:02:51 AM
Great point.
Myne was an accurate  observation of what happened in added on time, an event which you either missed or ignored and now haven't the balls to recognise but hide behind  your default smarm.
You are the only one that doesn’t recognise that Monaghan players were deliberately wasting time and that the ref was right to add it on. You are the only one with skin in the game.
So you did not notice that McManus was clear and pulled back for a clash?

To be fair to the ref he blew that straight away without noticing McManus was clear. He should have been more aware though
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: lenny on February 09, 2020, 07:17:32 AM
ok - just home. Long post mortem. Great entertainment all all that but monaghan were hosed by branigan.

Mccarthy gets a free in after taking at least 8 steps. Hughes black card for contesting why he didn't get a 45 (which clearly was a 45). The macmanus 1 on 1. Keep playing until Dublin equalise. The list goes on. Hopefully none of these things matter at the end of the day but we need better refs than that.

I’ve watched the mccarthy one again. He didn’t foul the ball as he got his solo and bounces in. Monaghan ere awarded much more soft frees than dublin throughout the game and I’m a fan of monaghan. There’s no doubt monaghan were the better side though and a good number of the dublin newcomers frankly didn’t look up to county football at this stage.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Hound on February 09, 2020, 08:14:16 AM
As someone that was shouting for Monghan throughout the game, I thought the ref was more than fair to them tbh. A number of easy frees given in the second half. The lack of play on to McManus looked bad because he was clear through but the whistle was blown for a contact foul long before that and Dubs stopped playing. Someone will have to do the clock on the injury time, went way over but a hell of a lot of the original 6 was wasted also so hard to know. I'm sure league Sunday will do it
As BennyCake said earlier, the ref got the stoppage time in stoppage time correct. 

There were two lengthy stoppages. The first was exactly 2 minutes. The second was for 90 seconds. So whatever you want to say about the ref, the 3.30 played in excess of the stated stoppage time, he got that spot on.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: From the Bunker on February 09, 2020, 08:39:50 AM
As someone that was shouting for Monghan throughout the game, I thought the ref was more than fair to them tbh. A number of easy frees given in the second half. The lack of play on to McManus looked bad because he was clear through but the whistle was blown for a contact foul long before that and Dubs stopped playing. Someone will have to do the clock on the injury time, went way over but a hell of a lot of the original 6 was wasted also so hard to know. I'm sure league Sunday will do it
As BennyCake said earlier, the ref got the stoppage time in stoppage time correct. 

There were two lengthy stoppages. The first was exactly 2 minutes. The second was for 90 seconds. So whatever you want to say about the ref, the 3.30 played in excess of the stated stoppage time, he got that spot on.

Agree with the above. In the Dublin Kerry  game - Dublin played down the clock before they went for their last score. Ref should have blown up on kick out.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: ck on February 09, 2020, 08:51:50 AM
Anyone know what game is on TG4 today?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 09, 2020, 08:55:16 AM
Anyone know what game is on TG4 today?

Tyrone v Kerry live, Donegal v Galway deferred. Meath v Mayo on TG4 youtube.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Ambrose on February 09, 2020, 09:02:08 AM
Anyone know what game is on TG4 today?

Tyrone v Kerry live, Donegal v Galway deferred. Meath v Mayo on TG4 youtube.

Is the Tyrone game likely to go ahead? Omagh has a tendency to flood at the sight of rain.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Ambrose on February 09, 2020, 09:23:27 AM
Change of venue for Kerry v Tyrone game:

Edendork GAC
Postcode: Bt7 6js
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Lar Naparka on February 09, 2020, 10:57:54 AM
Anyone know if the Mayo/Meath game will go ahead?
I need to make up my mind to travel or not and I'll need to set out soon if I want a stand seat.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on February 09, 2020, 11:02:44 AM
Anyone know if the Mayo/Meath game will go ahead?
I need to make up my mind to travel or not and I'll need to set out soon if I want a stand seat.
Going ahead according to Meath Gaa twitter page anyway
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on February 09, 2020, 11:36:11 AM
Anyone know if the Mayo/Meath game will go ahead?
I need to make up my mind to travel or not and I'll need to set out soon if I want a stand seat.

I’m ten mins from Navan and it’s honestly cleared up completely, a little dark overhead but there is also sun .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: BennyCake on February 09, 2020, 01:59:46 PM
Tyrone Kerry moved to 2-30 because the anthem took so long.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2020, 02:15:19 PM
Pure muck today! No conditions to play football, it’s bad enough to watch when the weather and pitch are good!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Carbery on February 09, 2020, 02:20:18 PM
Watching the Tyrone/Kerry game on TG4 and am wondering if there is a covered stand at this venue as a number of patrons seem to be watching from the comfort of their cars or under an umbrella?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: rodney trotter on February 09, 2020, 02:20:53 PM
Meath v Mayo live on Tg4 YouTube. Meath have looked awful so far
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: J70 on February 09, 2020, 02:25:49 PM
Donegal playing well against the wind. Cutting Galway open for goal chances again and again with the running.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: hardstation on February 09, 2020, 02:28:52 PM
Watching the Tyrone/Kerry game on TG4 and am wondering if there is a covered stand at this venue as a number of patrons seem to be watching from the comfort of their cars or under an umbrella?
No.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: RedHand88 on February 09, 2020, 02:29:10 PM
Watching the Tyrone/Kerry game on TG4 and am wondering if there is a covered stand at this venue as a number of patrons seem to be watching from the comfort of their cars or under an umbrella?

There is no stand no.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: joemamas on February 09, 2020, 02:34:48 PM
Hudson is a dodgy ref.
How did Fergal Borland not get a free.
He is giving Meath a fair amount of easy frees.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: joemamas on February 09, 2020, 02:39:28 PM
The usual Two minutes added time.
Is that a joke
Seemed a lot of Meath men got “injuries” in the first half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: fearsiuil on February 09, 2020, 02:45:40 PM
Hudson is a dodgy ref.
How did Fergal Borland not get a free.
He is giving Meath a fair amount of easy frees.
In fairness Diarmuid O'Connor should have conceded a penalty to Meath before that. Inconsistent refereeing very frustrating to watch.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on February 09, 2020, 02:50:16 PM
No one has told our players that it’s windy out. Shot choices have been awful. How they think that you can put a 45 over in these conditions I don’t know. Hopefully well be better with the wind. Defensively we’ve been ok but awful up front as before. Keeper making me nervous the whole time though.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: joemamas on February 09, 2020, 02:54:41 PM
Hudson is a dodgy ref.
How did Fergal Borland not get a free.
He is giving Meath a fair amount of easy frees.
In fairness Diarmuid O'Connor should have conceded a penalty to Meath before that. Inconsistent refereeing very frustrating to watch.

Agreed on Diarmuid O Connor tackle.
Meath guy should still have scored
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Crete Boom on February 09, 2020, 02:55:50 PM
Mayo need a huge improvement in how they use the ball against that wind otherwise we are in big trouble in this game!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 09, 2020, 03:00:01 PM
Donegal playing well against the wind. Cutting Galway open for goal chances again and again with the running.

Galway not up to it this week, very poor first half. Again the shooting has been extremely bad percentage and execution wise, Donegal look to be fairly comfortable and should run out easy enough winners based on the match so far with that wind to come.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: SouthDublinBro on February 09, 2020, 03:10:36 PM
This "joemamas" lad needs to stop whinging.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Throw ball on February 09, 2020, 03:18:00 PM
Some free 'won' by McCurry there. ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: dublin7 on February 09, 2020, 03:22:50 PM
Tyrone down to 14. 2nd yellow for Peter Harte. I thought Tyrone should have had a free in just before that when Kerry CB picked the ball up off the ground
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: square_ball on February 09, 2020, 03:27:33 PM
Usual cop out from the referee giving two yellows. What did Clifford do wrong then?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: J70 on February 09, 2020, 03:27:43 PM
Donegal playing well against the wind. Cutting Galway open for goal chances again and again with the running.

Galway not up to it this week, very poor first half. Again the shooting has been extremely bad percentage and execution wise, Donegal look to be fairly comfortable and should run out easy enough winners based on the match so far with that wind to come.

Some turnaround.

Galway upped it, Donegal have stopped playing.

Nine point turnaround in 15 mins.

Shane Walsh is some player.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: RedHand88 on February 09, 2020, 03:28:02 PM
Fr Damo not happy about his second yellow!  ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: themac_23 on February 09, 2020, 03:28:44 PM
Usual cop out from the referee giving two yellows. What did Clifford do wrong then?

Clifford done nothing, sub who’s not booked takes the gamble that the ref will do the usual book both players, complete joke, biggest bug bearer of mine in the gaa
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Ed Ricketts on February 09, 2020, 03:29:24 PM
Who’s the dud ref in the Tyrone Kerry game? Fell for the oldest trick in the book when sending Clifford off.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2020, 03:29:46 PM
Umpires obviously seen something we didn’t but the players need to have a look at themselves, embarrassing carry on altogether
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Throw ball on February 09, 2020, 03:30:01 PM
No matter who wins Tyrone v Kerry but the officials have had a bad day
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: mup on February 09, 2020, 03:30:43 PM
Usual cop out from the referee giving two yellows. What did Clifford do wrong then?

Absolutely nothing. Tyrone man did the job he was asked to do. Ref fell for it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: shantygael on February 09, 2020, 03:30:48 PM
All I saw was Clifford poking ref in chest after getting booked.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: J70 on February 09, 2020, 03:31:12 PM
WTF are they instructing the Galway keepers to do.

Two of them now with the two-foot sliding tackles cleaning out Donegal men.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 09, 2020, 03:32:25 PM
It amazes me that ref just book both players without looking at the offender, why would a forward with a free drag down a player
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: RedHand88 on February 09, 2020, 03:32:42 PM
McCurry is unplayable. To score from a sideline kick in them conditions is some feat.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: themac_23 on February 09, 2020, 03:33:08 PM
Umpires obviously seen something we didn’t but the players need to have a look at themselves, embarrassing carry on altogether

If there’s ever a coming together 99/100 the umpires say ‘both at it’ so book both, Clifford had no need to get involved in anything there especially in front of the umpires and already booked, it’s a tactic from some teams, if player is on a yellow try get him into a scuffle that’ll get 2 bookings
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2020, 03:33:47 PM
McCurry is unplayable. To score from a lifeline kick in them conditions is some feat.

Wind assisted but cracking score all the same
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tonto1888 on February 09, 2020, 03:37:43 PM
I thought Clifford grabbed the Tyrone guy  first
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: RedHand88 on February 09, 2020, 03:40:24 PM
I thought Clifford grabbed the Tyrone guy  first

Correct.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: dublin7 on February 09, 2020, 03:40:42 PM
Will be interesting to see if Clifford gets a ban for all the abuse he gave both umpires after he got sent off
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on February 09, 2020, 03:41:00 PM
If there was a game we would win in this league that was it. Poor stuff up front really. Whatever about their goal the lack of point scoring and wild shots cost us the game. Defensively we seem solid but we don’t have a clue at the other end.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Sportacus on February 09, 2020, 03:41:21 PM
The state of that ref in the Tyrone game.  Anyone who thinks we shouldn’t have an opinion on refs can feck off.  Complete amateur, out of his depth.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: square_ball on February 09, 2020, 03:43:09 PM
I thought Clifford grabbed the Tyrone guy  first

Correct.

Really?

https://twitter.com/antobanto15/status/1226529657362767873?s=21
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Throw ball on February 09, 2020, 03:43:50 PM
McCurry is unplayable. To score from a sideline kick in them conditions is some feat.

You should probably add ' at this time of year' . Tyrone people will know better than me on that score
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tonto1888 on February 09, 2020, 03:44:05 PM
That doesn’t clear anything up
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GJL on February 09, 2020, 03:45:25 PM
Great come back victory for Tyrone. Well done to all involved.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: nrico2006 on February 09, 2020, 03:46:06 PM
I thought Clifford grabbed the Tyrone guy  first

Correct.

Really?

https://twitter.com/antobanto15/status/1226529657362767873?s=21

Did that show who started it?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: J70 on February 09, 2020, 03:47:34 PM
f**k sake Donegal.

Seven points up and cruising in the second half. Still manage to lose the f**king game in Letterkenny.

Several chances to save it at the end too, even with the difficult wind.

Galway took their chances. Donegal didn’t.

Now we are definitely in a relegation scrap.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Wildweasel74 on February 09, 2020, 03:49:00 PM
The Tyrone man dragged him to the ground
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: joemamas on February 09, 2020, 03:52:31 PM
If and when Kevin McLoughin retires from Mayo, they should put an asterisk next to him name for this game.
1-2 was his tally, in last seven minutes against a gale , it was also Mayo’s total tally for the second half.
Unless Mayo improve from 10-15, they will find it hard to get any more points in this division.
But a win is win.........
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 09, 2020, 03:53:05 PM
Mayo blessed to get a win


Meath are an awful team
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Ed Ricketts on February 09, 2020, 04:00:43 PM
The two yellows cop out option should be taken away from officials. This would put more emphasis on identifying the instigators of trouble. If the eight officials around the pitch can’t figure out between themselves what happened in any particular incident, then we play on. The cynical provocation of influential players is a blight on the game.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: MayoBuck on February 09, 2020, 04:09:32 PM
If and when Kevin McLoughin retires from Mayo, they should put an asterisk next to him name for this game.
1-2 was his tally, in last seven minutes against a gale , it was also Mayo’s total tally for the second half.
Unless Mayo improve from 10-15, they will find it hard to get any more points in this division.
But a win is win.........

He turned over the Meath back in the lead up to the goal too. Got out of jail big time. Tyrone and Galway winning doesn't help our cause so relegation still a big threat.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on February 09, 2020, 04:20:55 PM
That was unbelievable.

Tyrone players playing for the foul

Mickey Harte cynical masterclass sending on a sub to get Clifford sent off. No doubt it will be recinded


https://twitter.com/davidherity/status/1226530422672285697?s=12

No idea what Harte was sent off for

They really need to bring in technology to help the refs
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: nrico2006 on February 09, 2020, 04:25:41 PM
The Tyrone man dragged him to the ground

They were both wrestling and went to ground.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on February 09, 2020, 04:38:19 PM
Mayo blessed to get a win


Meath are an awful team

To be fair I think we’re ok defensively and our tackling is as good as anyone’s but too many lads look Clueless when they get the ball in their hands. Referee was as unpredictable as our shooting.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Schkite on February 09, 2020, 04:44:40 PM
It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tonto1888 on February 09, 2020, 04:51:10 PM
It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

I wonder if he will be on bother for that
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on February 09, 2020, 04:52:20 PM
How are we ever going to replace the likes of Kevin mcgloughlin , the heart his likes have is so rare .

We were lucky, very lucky . I don’t understand our gameplan when we attack at all , it’s all so disjointed and impulsive . Horan worries me at times but you just keep thinking he has a bigger long term plan . We won’t survive imo , Farney will take us in two weeks time , Kerry , Galway and Tyrone should all beat us handy on current form but you just never know with Mayo for sure . 

Weather was bad today and the price of a hot dog and cuppa was Croke Park prices . Miserable ground , having a pint here in Navan before I head back to Dublin and the impression I get of the town its poor also . Bad day out but a win is a win.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 09, 2020, 04:54:33 PM
The Tyrone man dragged him to the ground

They were both wrestling and went to ground.

From the footage of the game on the incident it should have been a black card for pulling someone to the ground.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 09, 2020, 04:55:33 PM
Rumours of our demise have, quite possibly, been greatly exaggerated :D ;)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: trueblue1234 on February 09, 2020, 04:56:30 PM
The Tyrone man dragged him to the ground

While Clifford had a grip of his shirt. Little needed for the Derry men to come a runnin. Just need Screen, tickle and Lenny now for the full house. 😂
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on February 09, 2020, 05:03:06 PM
It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

I wonder if he will be on bother for that

Clifford was right to be annoyed. No further action will be taken.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tonto1888 on February 09, 2020, 05:11:02 PM
It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

I wonder if he will be on bother for that

Clifford was right to be annoyed. No further action will be taken.

Action most certainly should be taken. It would be against anyone else
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on February 09, 2020, 05:16:13 PM
It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

I wonder if he will be on bother for that

Clifford was right to be annoyed. No further action will be taken.

Action most certainly should be taken. It would be against anyone else

He didnt say anything to referee. He was right feel aggrieved
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Throw ball on February 09, 2020, 05:17:07 PM
Tonto I actually doubt if there would be and as he is a Kerry man I think the chances are even less.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 09, 2020, 05:19:42 PM
It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

I wonder if he will be on bother for that

Clifford was right to be annoyed. No further action will be taken.

Action most certainly should be taken. It would be against anyone else

He didnt say anything to referee. He was right feel aggrieved

I assume you think he's completely innocent. If you were at the match you would see he started it before the video was taken before him and Ben wrestled. Did you see petey harte going crying to the umproes about his sending off
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tonto1888 on February 09, 2020, 05:23:34 PM
It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

I wonder if he will be on bother for that

Clifford was right to be annoyed. No further action will be taken.

Action most certainly should be taken. It would be against anyone else

He didnt say anything to referee. He was right feel aggrieved
Who said anything about the ref
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on February 09, 2020, 05:28:30 PM
I thought someone implied he said something to referee.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tonto1888 on February 09, 2020, 05:29:22 PM
I thought someone implied he said something to referee.

Umpires
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: seafoid on February 09, 2020, 05:30:27 PM
Meath god help us
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: RedHand88 on February 09, 2020, 05:34:54 PM
It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

I wonder if he will be on bother for that

Clifford was right to be annoyed. No further action will be taken.

Action most certainly should be taken. It would be against anyone else

He didnt say anything to referee. He was right feel aggrieved

Lol what. Of course he did. The referee got the most of his tantrum. He even prodded him in the chest. Action should be taken.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: hardstation on February 09, 2020, 05:43:24 PM
I thought someone implied he said something to referee.
Not sure if anyone implied that. I’ll say it though, he gave the ref a mouthful.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on February 09, 2020, 06:01:10 PM
It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

I wonder if he will be on bother for that

Clifford was right to be annoyed. No further action will be taken.

Action most certainly should be taken. It would be against anyone else

He didnt say anything to referee. He was right feel aggrieved

Lol what. Of course he did. The referee got the most of his tantrum. He even prodded him in the chest. Action should be taken.

What prod in the chest??? LOL
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: LeoMc on February 09, 2020, 06:13:32 PM
It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

I wonder if he will be on bother for that

Clifford was right to be annoyed. No further action will be taken.

Action most certainly should be taken. It would be against anyone else

He didnt say anything to referee. He was right feel aggrieved

Lol what. Of course he did. The referee got the most of his tantrum. He even prodded him in the chest. Action should be taken.

What prod in the chest??? LOL
He was swatting away a wasp.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on February 09, 2020, 06:58:35 PM
https://www.con-telegraph.ie/election2020/roundup/articles/2020/02/09/4185498-mayo-ace-facing-long-spell-on-sidelines-due-to-injury/?fbclid=IwAR2CgLb0y9eJkrd9kJ-zWWe75tE-W1t0X-3rj1zyIrHU_v4YdXFiaxxaHs8

Boyler was still in flying form , gutted for him .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on February 09, 2020, 07:05:20 PM
Team   P   +/-   Pts.
1 Dublin 3   6   4
2 Tyrone 3   2   4
3 Galway 3   1   4
4 Donegal 3   9   3
5 Monaghan 3   3   3
6 Kerry 3   0   3
7 Mayo 3   -4   3
8 Meath 3   -17   0

Table very tight now
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 09, 2020, 07:13:27 PM
Mayo blessed to get a win


Meath are an awful team

To be fair I think we’re ok defensively and our tackling is as good as anyone’s but too many lads look Clueless when they get the ball in their hands. Referee was as unpredictable as our shooting.

Yer shot selection was diabolical, 14 tried to kick a point from the wing, literally on the sideline. Ridiculous

The meath medics were worked hard in the first half, f**k me but it was brutal
i wouldn’t normally say anything but I thought in the first half in particular the ref gave everything to Meath. Very frustratingly he would blow for a free for one thing and two seconds later the same foul would be let go
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: BennyCake on February 09, 2020, 07:16:04 PM
Some difference from a couple of weeks ago.

Rock compliments Clifford after levelling.

Galway no 3 walks across Murphy and puts him off. Then clearly goads him when it tails wide and whistle blows.

Another example of great sportsmanship  ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on February 09, 2020, 07:19:54 PM
Murphy wouldn't be shy doing the same.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on February 09, 2020, 07:22:14 PM
Mayo blessed to get a win


Meath are an awful team

To be fair I think we’re ok defensively and our tackling is as good as anyone’s but too many lads look Clueless when they get the ball in their hands. Referee was as unpredictable as our shooting.

Yer shot selection was diabolical, 14 tried to kick a point from the wing, literally on the sideline. Ridiculous

The meath medics were worked hard in the first half, f**k me but it was brutal
i wouldn’t normally say anything but I thought in the first half in particular the ref gave everything to Meath. Very frustratingly he would blow for a free for one thing and two seconds later the same foul would be let go

The medics work hard in Mayo too. Never seen a team get so many head injuries in each game. Between game in tralee and league final last year about 6/7 lads went down holding head in each game.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tonto1888 on February 09, 2020, 07:22:43 PM
Mayo blessed to get a win


Meath are an awful team

To be fair I think we’re ok defensively and our tackling is as good as anyone’s but too many lads look Clueless when they get the ball in their hands. Referee was as unpredictable as our shooting.

Yer shot selection was diabolical, 14 tried to kick a point from the wing, literally on the sideline. Ridiculous

The meath medics were worked hard in the first half, f**k me but it was brutal
i wouldn’t normally say anything but I thought in the first half in particular the ref gave everything to Meath. Very frustratingly he would blow for a free for one thing and two seconds later the same foul would be let go

The medics work hard in Mayo too. Never seen a team get so many head injuries in each game. Between game in tralee and league final last year about 6/7 lads went down holding head in each game.

Same when they beat us in the qualifiers last year
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 09, 2020, 07:39:53 PM
A good opportunity for Galway to pick up away win as Donegal are poor in O’Donnell Park.


Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: BennyHarp on February 09, 2020, 08:01:35 PM
Some difference from a couple of weeks ago.

Rock compliments Clifford after levelling.

Galway no 3 walks across Murphy and puts him off. Then clearly goads him when it tails wide and whistle blows.

Another example of great sportsmanship  ::)

I’m not sure the rest of the Dublin team were quite as gracious as Dean Rock was to Clifford in the aftermath of that free.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Halfquarter on February 09, 2020, 08:10:42 PM
It will be a learning experience for Clifford. Not to say he wasn't doing anything himself, but Tyrone got exactly what they would have wanted out of that. And just as Kerry had gotten a man advantage themselves, that could well have been the losing of the game, and changes the complexion of the league table.

Clifford didn't go off quiet though, some shouting done to the officials after.

I wonder if he will be on bother for that

Clifford was right to be annoyed. No further action will be taken.

Action most certainly should be taken. It would be against anyone else

He didnt say anything to referee. He was right feel aggrieved

Lol what. Of course he did. The referee got the most of his tantrum. He even prodded him in the chest. Action should be taken.

He didn’t prod the referee in the chest , a bit of creative writing there !
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 09, 2020, 08:45:38 PM
Rumours of our demise have, quite possibly, been greatly exaggerated :D ;)
Mud wrestling reprieve in Dork.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Ball Hopper on February 09, 2020, 09:11:00 PM
Shaping up to be some competition in Div 1. 

The bottom 4 play each other in the next round...Kerry host Meath and Monaghan entertain Mayo.  The other team on 3 points is Donegal, who travel to Dublin.  Tyrone will travel to Galway where the winner will be joint top at worst (if Dublin win) after 4 rounds.

Nothing sorted for two more rounds at least.


Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on February 09, 2020, 09:33:57 PM
How the hell did Loftus miss that free in the 2nd half? Brutal effort
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: J70 on February 09, 2020, 11:54:47 PM
A good opportunity for Galway to pick up away win as Donegal are poor in O’Donnell Park.




Nah, in the case of Donegal in O'Donnell Park, you're simply living up to your name with predictions like that!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 10, 2020, 12:06:44 AM
Rumours of our demise have, quite possibly, been greatly exaggerated :D ;)
Mud wrestling reprieve in Dork.

Yeah, yeah, whatever -- 'tis called winning, you know.  :P
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 10, 2020, 01:20:40 AM
Rumours of our demise have, quite possibly, been greatly exaggerated :D ;)
Mud wrestling reprieve in Dork.

Yeah, yeah, whatever -- 'tis called winning, you know.  :P
No doubt the Tyrone boys did good on Sunday and the deep trauma tremors from getting run ragged by Monaghan didn't rear their ugly head.
But tomorrow's another day.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyroneman on February 10, 2020, 11:13:48 AM
Rumours of our demise have, quite possibly, been greatly exaggerated :D ;)
Mud wrestling reprieve in Dork.

Yeah, yeah, whatever -- 'tis called winning, you know.  :P
No doubt the Tyrone boys did good on Sunday and the deep trauma tremors from getting run ragged by Monaghan didn't rear their ugly head.
But tomorrow's another day.

Good to see alright...thought our boys might have needed the comfort of playing Monaghan in Croke park to wash those memories away
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GetOverTheBar on February 10, 2020, 11:40:38 AM
Have to say though, for all the twisting here about rights and wrongs. The games so far in the NFL have been great stuff, high drama/high scores. Dublin/Kerry - Dublin/Monaghan - Tyrone/Kerry - Galway/Monaghan....all great exhibitions.

The league is where it's at.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 10, 2020, 12:21:14 PM
I was surprised by just how much Donegal spent waffling latterly both directions with the ball for 10 or 15 minutes  when they desperately needed two points.  In contrast Tyrone engineered an execution, a brilliant mark and point scored by McCurry, who probably woke up this morning still grinning widely.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 10, 2020, 12:21:58 PM
I thought Joe McQuillan was very very poor, very soft frees given too both teams for nothing and then very obvious frees not given. There was several instances of over carrying too which were blatantly obvious and missed. Its clearly not just McQuillan but too many players are picking up bookings for high challenges when players are just ducking into challenges.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: greatpoint on February 10, 2020, 01:07:45 PM
I was surprised by just how much Donegal spent waffling latterly both directions with the ball for 10 or 15 minutes  when they desperately needed two points.  In contrast Tyrone engineered an execution, a brilliant mark and point scored by McCurry, who probably woke up this morning still grinning widely.

Donegal engineered at least three scoring opportunities at the end of the game by recycling patiently. One was scored (then disallowed) and Murphy should really have scored that free at the end to level it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: TheGreatest on February 10, 2020, 01:28:15 PM
A awful lot of negativity, Division 1 has been excellent so far, there was 4 games at the weekend, 2 draws and a point separating the other two matches.

Its by far the best competition format we have.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: J70 on February 10, 2020, 01:36:20 PM
I was surprised by just how much Donegal spent waffling latterly both directions with the ball for 10 or 15 minutes  when they desperately needed two points.  In contrast Tyrone engineered an execution, a brilliant mark and point scored by McCurry, who probably woke up this morning still grinning widely.

Donegal engineered at least three scoring opportunities at the end of the game by recycling patiently. One was scored (then disallowed) and Murphy should really have scored that free at the end to level it.

You could see he was trying to measure it in the breeze, but overdid it slightly. Just unlucky.

Galway hit a couple from play earlier at the other end which were brilliantly judged.

Think we'll have a tough time staying up now, even if the performances haven't been too bad. We do tend to be very open down the middle in the league the last few years, so we're always going to give up a couple of goals.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 10, 2020, 01:48:48 PM
I was surprised by just how much Donegal spent waffling latterly both directions with the ball for 10 or 15 minutes  when they desperately needed two points.  In contrast Tyrone engineered an execution, a brilliant mark and point scored by McCurry, who probably woke up this morning still grinning widely.

Donegal engineered at least three scoring opportunities at the end of the game by recycling patiently. One was scored (then disallowed) and Murphy should really have scored that free at the end to level it.
Recycycling patiently or endlessly passing the ball along the lateral path going nowhere for 15 minutes?
That free slightly inside the lateral path was a foul on McHugh but cheaply conceded, but that was only a chance to  level the game at  the death.
We'll see how that tactic works against Monaghan and Tyrone, from a Monaghan perspective I'm glad we're shod of it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: greatpoint on February 10, 2020, 02:00:06 PM
I was surprised by just how much Donegal spent waffling latterly both directions with the ball for 10 or 15 minutes  when they desperately needed two points.  In contrast Tyrone engineered an execution, a brilliant mark and point scored by McCurry, who probably woke up this morning still grinning widely.

Donegal engineered at least three scoring opportunities at the end of the game by recycling patiently. One was scored (then disallowed) and Murphy should really have scored that free at the end to level it.
Recycycling patiently or endlessly passing the ball along the lateral path going nowhere for 15 minutes?
That free slightly inside the lateral path was a foul on McHugh but cheaply conceded, but that was only a chance to  level the game at  the death.
We'll see how that tactic works against Monaghan and Tyrone, from a Monaghan perspective I'm glad we're shod of it.

And what about the disallowed point before that and the other free they missed? You were comparing Tyrone working an opportunity for a score to Donegal's approach. My point is that Donegal engineered three scoring opportunities while they were a point down at the end of the game, they just didn't score any (well one was disallowed.)

Do you think for some reason they are the only team that recycle the ball laterally to draw out a packed defence?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on February 10, 2020, 03:13:39 PM
The way this league is going a lot that was tipping Galway to reach the final could turn out to be right.

Plenty of similarities about the tribesmen current league campaign and 2018. I'm not sure about the shackles off approach as Pat Spillane was suggesting last night afterall they are scoring around the same as two years ago.

The battle to avoid relegation and join Meath in division 2 will be a intriguing watch. That home defeat yesterday and late late draw at home to Mayo could prove very costly for Donegal. They have have Tyrone, Kerry and Dublin away to play in their remaining 4 games
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 10, 2020, 04:58:35 PM
I was surprised by just how much Donegal spent waffling latterly both directions with the ball for 10 or 15 minutes  when they desperately needed two points.  In contrast Tyrone engineered an execution, a brilliant mark and point scored by McCurry, who probably woke up this morning still grinning widely.

Donegal engineered at least three scoring opportunities at the end of the game by recycling patiently. One was scored (then disallowed) and Murphy should really have scored that free at the end to level it.
Recycycling patiently or endlessly passing the ball along the lateral path going nowhere for 15 minutes?
That free slightly inside the lateral path was a foul on McHugh but cheaply conceded, but that was only a chance to  level the game at  the death.
We'll see how that tactic works against Monaghan and Tyrone, from a Monaghan perspective I'm glad we're shod of it.

And what about the disallowed point before that and the other free they missed? You were comparing Tyrone working an opportunity for a score to Donegal's approach. My point is that Donegal engineered three scoring opportunities while they were a point down at the end of the game, they just didn't score any (well one was disallowed.)

Do you think for some reason they are the only team that recycle the ball laterally to draw out a packed defence?
It didn't work and looked aimlesss. Only team or not the only team is besides the point, but hey it's your county or your county's tactic.
This is coming from a reformed lateral.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 10, 2020, 06:35:13 PM
It was not quite the smash and grab Kerry pulled off last week but Galway are very fortunate to have won that match in Letterkenny, overall I would say that Galway probably just about deserved a draw on the basis of a much improved second half performance but we couldn’t have complained too much if Donegal took the full two points either to be honest, to let a seven point lead slip in those conditions was more than careless. That said Donegal were presented with multiple opportunities to salvage at least a draw and could not.

I’ve seen some Donegal supporters are claiming that the Galway players pressurised the umpires into overturning the Murphy point that was ruled a square ball but if you closely watch the replay of the score the umpire on the left was pointing straight to the square for the infringement as soon as the ball went over the bar. Whether Murphy was in or not I couldn’t tell at the match and the TV angle isn’t wide enough to make a definite judgement, you can’t just guess that he was outside the square when the ball was kicked.
That being said about supporters, I must have a brief word for the locals that were in my vicinity in the stand, regardless of the way the match was going for Donegal they were the epitome of what a good supporter should be, more than happy to call the match as it was for both sides, stanch encouragement to their own throughout and no abuse of the opposition. Shook hands at the end of the match despite the narrow loss and said best of luck for the rest of the year, nicer people you couldn’t meet.

Galway were not good in the first half at all, at half time I couldn’t see where Galway would pull even a draw out of the match, with the wind to come for Donegal. Turned out that the wind played a bit of havoc for both teams though, Galway had some awful wides in the first half but Donegal had some very poor wides in the second half also including that inexplicable last kick of the game wide for Murphy. I was in the stand so it looked a bad enough miss from there but when I saw it back on the TV last night, I couldn’t believe it.
Donegal owned the ball for a lot of the first half and retained the ball at their ease at times, it was terrific play against the wind. The amount of misplaced passes in the first half from Galway wasn't what you want to see and goes back to a flaw that was there against Kerry as well, playing kick passes for the sake of it when they simply aren’t on, there's a happy medium to be found there. They played a lot more through the hand in the second half because of the conditions and were far more successful.

Good save from Mogan's shot by Gleeson at the start of the match but the goalkeeping performances went downhill after that. Clear black card for the peno, don't know what he was at with the attempt to save via the feet, it isn't soccer.
I didn’t realise how bad O'Beolain’s attempt to win the ball against O Baoill was at the match either, having seen it back he could have had no complaints if he got a straight red card to be honest, you could brake someone’s leg at that. Kickouts were a mixed bag but didn't do anything too reckless.

To be honest the vagaries of the cards given out on any given matchday is hard to fathom and totally dependent on the ref, not sure what McGee should have got for his dunt on McDaid on the sideline when he ended up with a yellow but it was a totally unnecessary hit. Daly second yellow was deserved.
While Paul Brennan saw black for the foul on Comer, I’d have a lot more sympathy for him as it was more of a tangle where he fell on Comer trying to tackle. By rule it’s a black but was it really cynical? Possibly but it’s not the type of foul that warrants 10 minutes off the pitch.
The simply awful “tackle” on McDaid by Mogan is a very different matter however. Shoulder into the back of a player designed to take him out and stop an attack. It was the definition of a cynical foul, stopping the Galway counter attack after a fantastic Daly turnover while cynically hurting the player who was totally exposed to the hit. Yet there was no card for this incident as Donegal subbed him off immediately - how did McQuillan let that happen? To me that Mogan tackle was far worse than Brennan who at least was making an honest effort but just got caught out, one got a black, the other one just left an opponent with a concussion.
On timekeeping it’s come to the stage where they might be better off taking it out of the referee’s hands, McQuillan was playing for the draw yesterday whatever about the justification for any more additional time, it's happening too much.
Galway need to work the lazy tackling technique as well, spending way too much of games down to 14 men. For Galway another note in terms of discipline, John Concannon needs to cool the jets out on the pitch as Galway’s maor foirne, nonsense behaviour from him in the first half yesterday, he'll get sent to the stands if he keeps it up.

Johnny Heaney looks back to near his best after a very sub-par 2019, always seems to pop up on the end of moves when he is going well, he has an unreal goal scoring record for Galway in fairness.
Sean Kelly had his hands full when he was matched up with Murphy but didn’t back down in the physical stakes and done about as well as could be expected. Lovely cool finish for his goal but what he has going for him is that he is a natural athlete with an unbelievable engine.

Cunningham played fairly well I thought after his introduction, his indecision on the mark (that he didn’t even know about or want, I guarantee if no whistle had been blown he’d have just played away) highlights yet another reason why this rule should be scrapped. Murphy’s reward for the “supreme” skill of catching a ball while you are going out over the end line was a handy point from the 21. I’ve been at 5 Division One matches and another match where this rule was in place and I think that the reward for the mark is completely disproportionate to the skills executed to gain it. Kilkenny’s fetch late in Croke Park is about the only one I've seen that looked like it's what they thought it would be.

John Daly again in the thick of it yesterday, a key save on the goal line, a textbook tackle in the first half to dispossess the Donegal player and start the counter attack, positionally very good and always steady in possession. While I thought he was consistently decent last year in a Galway team that was not going well, he has absolutely stepped it up to a new level in year two, could have been selected as Galway MOTM in all three league games if Shane Walsh wasn’t playing on the same team. My only criticism is that he seems totally one footed and teams at the top end will maybe target that by showing him onto the weak foot when the opportunity presents itself, not as much of an issue given his playing position on the pitch perhaps but something to look out for maybe down the line.

Just on the subject of Daly, listening to Anthony Moyles on OTB AM this morning, he had clearly only watched the highlights on TV last night and basically from the one clip of the 2nd Donegal goal formed the opinion that “Galway have issues at 6” when nothing could be further from the truth.
It’s absolutely laughable that GAA pundits continue to spoof away with these guessed generalities, ex-players should know vastly more than the punters in the stands and it’s this insight and accumulated knowledge that we want to hear, just say you didn’t see the match fully and provide the analysis on the games that you did. In contrast I did note from Aidan O'Rourke’s coaching column for RTE that he highlighted Galway’s “scramble defence” as not good enough throughout the Kerry match and especially for the last two Kerry scores that clinched it. He outlined John Daly’s slow reaction to the developing attacks for both scores, having watched it back I think it’s harsh to pin the blame with Daly (particularly for Spillane’s point) but at least there’s a solid analysis made to back up the critique, more of that please.

Again yesterday Steede didn’t look up to the standard of inter county, it might be that he’s just not got the pace to play as well he does at club level, you wouldn’t have known he was on the pitch in Letterkenny he was so out of the game. Galway improved in both the Kerry and Donegal matches when he exited the pitch, Conroy and Comer far more impactful out there. Interesting to see how long Joyce will persist in trying to see will he get up to speed. Comer was effective out at midfield in the second half but I’d like to see him closer to goal with a properly functioning midfield partnership there instead.

Shane Walsh was again integral to Galway yesterday, two scores from play that were of the highest quality and he had a key role in the vital first goal, because after another incisive run his hand pass was inch perfect into Heaney’s stride. His pass into Comer in the first half was a thing of absolute beauty but the Comer’s finish didn’t match it. Galway would be in serious trouble without him so it seems almost churlish to raise it but the reality is that the free taking issue remains, Walsh had shots from a mark in the first half and the free he skied with his left in the second half which you would expect a top class freetaker to score. He will get 7/10 from frees but it needs to be 9/10 at Division One level. Outside of that he is simply playing outstanding stuff, liking the Mikasa gloves as well!

M Daly improved performance yesterday, on a lot more ball, unlucky to hit the post in first half and a great score against the wind. Needs to put that as a baseline and improve from there.

Boyle gave some pure honesty of effort yesterday in tackling and covering ground, you couldn’t fault him at all in this respect but he isn’t imposing himself as either a scoring threat or a score creator inside the 45, it’s hard to think he’ll be able to get up to speed in these areas.
Finnerty kicked two nice scores and rebounded well in general play from his no show in Tralee, he’ll be pushing all year for a starting place.

Tyrone result will tell whether Galway can aim for a top four finish or have to look back at the last two spots, the Division is very tight for all the teams outside of Meath, the way things are going a team could be relegated on 6 points.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: J70 on February 10, 2020, 08:30:54 PM
Murphy’s disallowed point looked a fairly clear square ball to me. Just surprised it took so long to call it back.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: greatpoint on February 10, 2020, 08:45:34 PM
I was surprised by just how much Donegal spent waffling latterly both directions with the ball for 10 or 15 minutes  when they desperately needed two points.  In contrast Tyrone engineered an execution, a brilliant mark and point scored by McCurry, who probably woke up this morning still grinning widely.

Donegal engineered at least three scoring opportunities at the end of the game by recycling patiently. One was scored (then disallowed) and Murphy should really have scored that free at the end to level it.
Recycycling patiently or endlessly passing the ball along the lateral path going nowhere for 15 minutes?
That free slightly inside the lateral path was a foul on McHugh but cheaply conceded, but that was only a chance to  level the game at  the death.
We'll see how that tactic works against Monaghan and Tyrone, from a Monaghan perspective I'm glad we're shod of it.

And what about the disallowed point before that and the other free they missed? You were comparing Tyrone working an opportunity for a score to Donegal's approach. My point is that Donegal engineered three scoring opportunities while they were a point down at the end of the game, they just didn't score any (well one was disallowed.)

Do you think for some reason they are the only team that recycle the ball laterally to draw out a packed defence?
It didn't work and looked aimlesss. Only team or not the only team is besides the point, but hey it's your county or your county's tactic.
This is coming from a reformed lateral.

I don't think you're capable of understanding this.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 10, 2020, 09:52:24 PM
Murphy’s disallowed point looked a fairly clear square ball to me. Just surprised it took so long to call it back.

Yeah looked like a square ball straight away.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 10, 2020, 10:05:32 PM
I was surprised by just how much Donegal spent waffling latterly both directions with the ball for 10 or 15 minutes  when they desperately needed two points.  In contrast Tyrone engineered an execution, a brilliant mark and point scored by McCurry, who probably woke up this morning still grinning widely.

Donegal engineered at least three scoring opportunities at the end of the game by recycling patiently. One was scored (then disallowed) and Murphy should really have scored that free at the end to level it.
Recycycling patiently or endlessly passing the ball along the lateral path going nowhere for 15 minutes?
That free slightly inside the lateral path was a foul on McHugh but cheaply conceded, but that was only a chance to  level the game at  the death.
We'll see how that tactic works against Monaghan and Tyrone, from a Monaghan perspective I'm glad we're shod of it.

And what about the disallowed point before that and the other free they missed? You were comparing Tyrone working an opportunity for a score to Donegal's approach. My point is that Donegal engineered three scoring opportunities while they were a point down at the end of the game, they just didn't score any (well one was disallowed.)

Do you think for some reason they are the only team that recycle the ball laterally to draw out a packed defence?
It didn't work and looked aimlesss. Only team or not the only team is besides the point, but hey it's your county or your county's tactic.
This is coming from a reformed lateral.

I don't think you're capable of understanding this.
Yeah ::)  You sound like a nice condescending smug chap.
I've been watching Monaghan play it for years and v Donegal on what feels like umpteen occasions.
I have a fairly good appreciation of Donegal's lateral patient possession game.
See how it goes against Tyrone and Monaghan.





Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: lenny on February 11, 2020, 07:06:15 AM
While Cliffords red card was disgraceful arguably the worst decision of the weekend went almost unnoticed. Meath should have had a penalty in the first half when they were denied a goal by a blatant foot block by I think O’connor. RTE didn’t even show a replay of the incident but I’d recorded it and it’s actually a blatant and dangerous foot block.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: bigpackiechestout on February 11, 2020, 09:38:22 AM

Just on the subject of Daly, listening to Anthony Moyles on OTB AM this morning, he had clearly only watched the highlights on TV last night and basically from the one clip of the 2nd Donegal goal formed the opinion that “Galway have issues at 6” when nothing could be further from the truth.
It’s absolutely laughable that GAA pundits continue to spoof away with these guessed generalities, ex-players should know vastly more than the punters in the stands and it’s this insight and accumulated knowledge that we want to hear, just say you didn’t see the match fully and provide the analysis on the games that you did. In contrast I did note from Aidan O'Rourke’s coaching column for RTE that he highlighted Galway’s “scramble defence” as not good enough throughout the Kerry match and especially for the last two Kerry scores that clinched it. He outlined John Daly’s slow reaction to the developing attacks for both scores, having watched it back I think it’s harsh to pin the blame with Daly (particularly for Spillane’s point) but at least there’s a solid analysis made to back up the critique, more of that please.


100% agree with this, it's ridiculous at this time of year. There's only 2 or 3 games televised each weekend so fair enough that pundits won't have seen every game, but they should stop analysing teams as if they have. For the Sunday Game at the weekend just past Pat Spillane and Ciaran Whelan were standing on the pitch directly after the Meath Mayo game supposedly providing analysis on other games that had literally just finished all across the country. They obviously hadn't seen the games and I'd be surprised if they had even seen much highlights. So Pat was spouting general platitudes such as 'Galway are really playing with the shackles off under Joyce'.

Another example is Eoin Sheehan on OTBAM last week, when analysing Tyrone he said they were the only team still playing puke football. How he came to this conclusion when neither of Tyrone's first two league games had been televised I don't know. Had he been at either, particularly the Meath game, he would know Tyrone have actually been experimenting with pushing up on teams more aggressively and have been wide open in defence at times as a result.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: MayoBuck on February 11, 2020, 10:04:27 AM
While Cliffords red card was disgraceful arguably the worst decision of the weekend went almost unnoticed. Meath should have had a penalty in the first half when they were denied a goal by a blatant foot block by I think O’connor. RTE didn’t even show a replay of the incident but I’d recorded it and it’s actually a blatant and dangerous foot block.

The Meath player never actually kicked the ball so it wasn't a foot block.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Tubberman on February 11, 2020, 10:39:19 AM
While Cliffords red card was disgraceful arguably the worst decision of the weekend went almost unnoticed. Meath should have had a penalty in the first half when they were denied a goal by a blatant foot block by I think O’connor. RTE didn’t even show a replay of the incident but I’d recorded it and it’s actually a blatant and dangerous foot block.

The Meath player never actually kicked the ball so it wasn't a foot block.

Correct - DOC kicked it away before the Meath player got to it. Great piece of last-ditch defending.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on February 11, 2020, 11:10:54 AM
While Cliffords red card was disgraceful arguably the worst decision of the weekend went almost unnoticed. Meath should have had a penalty in the first half when they were denied a goal by a blatant foot block by I think O’connor. RTE didn’t even show a replay of the incident but I’d recorded it and it’s actually a blatant and dangerous foot block.

The Meath player never actually kicked the ball so it wasn't a foot block.

Correct - DOC kicked it away before the Meath player got to it. Great piece of last-ditch defending.

I didn't think it was a foot block either but I thought it was a penalty as (I think) you can't kick the ball while another player is in possession of it?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: blast05 on February 11, 2020, 11:15:37 AM
While Cliffords red card was disgraceful arguably the worst decision of the weekend went almost unnoticed. Meath should have had a penalty in the first half when they were denied a goal by a blatant foot block by I think O’connor. RTE didn’t even show a replay of the incident but I’d recorded it and it’s actually a blatant and dangerous foot block.

The Meath player never actually kicked the ball so it wasn't a foot block.

Correct - DOC kicked it away before the Meath player got to it. Great piece of last-ditch defending.

I didn't think it was a foot block either but I thought it was a penalty as (I think) you can't kick the ball while another player is in possession of it?

Are you in possession of the ball if you have dropped the ball out of your hands with the intent of kicking it ..... but the ball never reaches your foot because opposing player kicks it away ?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 11, 2020, 11:21:08 AM
Great summary as usual from AFA. I was delighted to see Sean Kelly start at corner back, mentioned it on here previously that I thought he'd be good in that role and he didn't let us down; He was excellent defensively and popped up with a brilliant goal.  Heaney had his hands full with Jamie Brennan and he struggled at times marking him but in fairness he won't be marking too many like Brennan throughout the year, as usual Heaney is the man you'd want going through on goal.

Kicckouts continue to be a problem and will need serious work between league and championship, Galway did well on Paton's kickouts but the wind likely played its part though; Comer made a difference second half and got his hands on every ball that come his way.

I thought O'Donnell had a poor first half, kicked the ball away on several occasions. Perhaps I'm been very harsh but I think on a summer days on a good pitch his lack of speed of the mark will come back to haunt us. Steede was anonymous, not sure how many more chances he'll get and D'Arcy will have to do more to keep himself in the team. Cooke is a big loss especially given the way Galway are playing. Boyle extremely lucky to stay on, PJ must see something in him but we've yet to see it yet. I liked that 2nd point Finnerty kicked, he didn't need much space to get his shot away; I still think he's got a bit of developing to do physically.

Walsh is just a joy to watch, lets hope he keeps this up as there's only a few players who can match him for talent.


Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: greatpoint on February 11, 2020, 01:49:03 PM
I was surprised by just how much Donegal spent waffling latterly both directions with the ball for 10 or 15 minutes  when they desperately needed two points.  In contrast Tyrone engineered an execution, a brilliant mark and point scored by McCurry, who probably woke up this morning still grinning widely.

Donegal engineered at least three scoring opportunities at the end of the game by recycling patiently. One was scored (then disallowed) and Murphy should really have scored that free at the end to level it.
Recycycling patiently or endlessly passing the ball along the lateral path going nowhere for 15 minutes?
That free slightly inside the lateral path was a foul on McHugh but cheaply conceded, but that was only a chance to  level the game at  the death.
We'll see how that tactic works against Monaghan and Tyrone, from a Monaghan perspective I'm glad we're shod of it.

And what about the disallowed point before that and the other free they missed? You were comparing Tyrone working an opportunity for a score to Donegal's approach. My point is that Donegal engineered three scoring opportunities while they were a point down at the end of the game, they just didn't score any (well one was disallowed.)

Do you think for some reason they are the only team that recycle the ball laterally to draw out a packed defence?
It didn't work and looked aimlesss. Only team or not the only team is besides the point, but hey it's your county or your county's tactic.
This is coming from a reformed lateral.

I don't think you're capable of understanding this.
Yeah ::)  You sound like a nice condescending smug chap.
I've been watching Monaghan play it for years and v Donegal on what feels like umpteen occasions.
I have a fairly good appreciation of Donegal's lateral patient possession game.
See how it goes against Tyrone and Monaghan.

I couldn't care less about how it goes against Tyrone and Monaghan. You're missing the point, not reading what I have said, and repeating yourself. I don't think you possess the insight to discuss it in detail.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: joemamas on February 11, 2020, 01:51:53 PM

Just on the subject of Daly, listening to Anthony Moyles on OTB AM this morning, he had clearly only watched the highlights on TV last night and basically from the one clip of the 2nd Donegal goal formed the opinion that “Galway have issues at 6” when nothing could be further from the truth.
It’s absolutely laughable that GAA pundits continue to spoof away with these guessed generalities, ex-players should know vastly more than the punters in the stands and it’s this insight and accumulated knowledge that we want to hear, just say you didn’t see the match fully and provide the analysis on the games that you did. In contrast I did note from Aidan O'Rourke’s coaching column for RTE that he highlighted Galway’s “scramble defence” as not good enough throughout the Kerry match and especially for the last two Kerry scores that clinched it. He outlined John Daly’s slow reaction to the developing attacks for both scores, having watched it back I think it’s harsh to pin the blame with Daly (particularly for Spillane’s point) but at least there’s a solid analysis made to back up the critique, more of that please.


100% agree with this, it's ridiculous at this time of year. There's only 2 or 3 games televised each weekend so fair enough that pundits won't have seen every game, but they should stop analysing teams as if they have. For the Sunday Game at the weekend just past Pat Spillane and Ciaran Whelan were standing on the pitch directly after the Meath Mayo game supposedly providing analysis on other games that had literally just finished all across the country. They obviously hadn't seen the games and I'd be surprised if they had even seen much highlights. So Pat was spouting general platitudes such as 'Galway are really playing with the shackles off under Joyce'.

Another example is Eoin Sheehan on OTBAM last week, when analysing Tyrone he said they were the only team still playing puke football. How he came to this conclusion when neither of Tyrone's first two league games had been televised I don't know. Had he been at either, particularly the Meath game, he would know Tyrone have actually been experimenting with pushing up on teams more aggressively and have been wide open in defence at times as a result.


So Pat was spouting general platitudes such as 'Galway are really playing with the shackles off under Joyce'.

Pat has been basically collecting a check for the last number of years from RTE and whoever else still buys in to his cliches.
He is beyond poor, laughable even. I put more effort into homework in junior infants.

He desperately needs a certain number of soundbites, irrespective of context, relevance or value add.
A blatent example of this was last year, after a leinster championship or qualifier game, some poor players father passed away the week of the game,
Ciaran Whelan was doing a good job providing a fairly detailed analysis of the game, The bold Pat, cuts him off mid analysis- mid-sentence, and declares " I just want to say it was a credit to X playing today after his father passing. Ciaran Whelan looked at him as if to say ( "WTF, you couldnt have waited 30 seconds to say that).
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 11, 2020, 02:42:26 PM

Just on the subject of Daly, listening to Anthony Moyles on OTB AM this morning, he had clearly only watched the highlights on TV last night and basically from the one clip of the 2nd Donegal goal formed the opinion that “Galway have issues at 6” when nothing could be further from the truth.
It’s absolutely laughable that GAA pundits continue to spoof away with these guessed generalities, ex-players should know vastly more than the punters in the stands and it’s this insight and accumulated knowledge that we want to hear, just say you didn’t see the match fully and provide the analysis on the games that you did. In contrast I did note from Aidan O'Rourke’s coaching column for RTE that he highlighted Galway’s “scramble defence” as not good enough throughout the Kerry match and especially for the last two Kerry scores that clinched it. He outlined John Daly’s slow reaction to the developing attacks for both scores, having watched it back I think it’s harsh to pin the blame with Daly (particularly for Spillane’s point) but at least there’s a solid analysis made to back up the critique, more of that please.


100% agree with this, it's ridiculous at this time of year. There's only 2 or 3 games televised each weekend so fair enough that pundits won't have seen every game, but they should stop analysing teams as if they have. For the Sunday Game at the weekend just past Pat Spillane and Ciaran Whelan were standing on the pitch directly after the Meath Mayo game supposedly providing analysis on other games that had literally just finished all across the country. They obviously hadn't seen the games and I'd be surprised if they had even seen much highlights. So Pat was spouting general platitudes such as 'Galway are really playing with the shackles off under Joyce'.

Another example is Eoin Sheehan on OTBAM last week, when analysing Tyrone he said they were the only team still playing puke football. How he came to this conclusion when neither of Tyrone's first two league games had been televised I don't know. Had he been at either, particularly the Meath game, he would know Tyrone have actually been experimenting with pushing up on teams more aggressively and have been wide open in defence at times as a result.


So Pat was spouting general platitudes such as 'Galway are really playing with the shackles off under Joyce'.

Pat has been basically collecting a check for the last number of years from RTE and whoever else still buys in to his cliches.
He is beyond poor, laughable even. I put more effort into homework in junior infants.

He desperately needs a certain number of soundbites, irrespective of context, relevance or value add.
A blatent example of this was last year, after a leinster championship or qualifier game, some poor players father passed away the week of the game,
Ciaran Whelan was doing a good job providing a fairly detailed analysis of the game, The bold Pat, cuts him off mid analysis- mid-sentence, and declares " I just want to say it was a credit to X playing today after his father passing. Ciaran Whelan looked at him as if to say ( "WTF, you couldnt have waited 30 seconds to say that).
On their pitchside cameo, I found it more interesting to watch a chilled out and grinning Ciaran in the background while Pat was speaking.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GetOverTheBar on February 11, 2020, 02:54:01 PM
Great summary as usual from AFA. I was delighted to see Sean Kelly start at corner back, mentioned it on here previously that I thought he'd be good in that role and he didn't let us down; He was excellent defensively and popped up with a brilliant goal.  Heaney had his hands full with Jamie Brennan and he struggled at times marking him but in fairness he won't be marking too many like Brennan throughout the year, as usual Heaney is the man you'd want going through on goal.

Kicckouts continue to be a problem and will need serious work between league and championship, Galway did well on Paton's kickouts but the wind likely played its part though; Comer made a difference second half and got his hands on every ball that come his way.

I thought O'Donnell had a poor first half, kicked the ball away on several occasions. Perhaps I'm been very harsh but I think on a summer days on a good pitch his lack of speed of the mark will come back to haunt us. Steede was anonymous, not sure how many more chances he'll get and D'Arcy will have to do more to keep himself in the team. Cooke is a big loss especially given the way Galway are playing. Boyle extremely lucky to stay on, PJ must see something in him but we've yet to see it yet. I liked that 2nd point Finnerty kicked, he didn't need much space to get his shot away; I still think he's got a bit of developing to do physically.

Walsh is just a joy to watch, lets hope he keeps this up as there's only a few players who can match him for talent.

What's going on here? Man was immense during the club series - doesn't seem like a lack of talent.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 11, 2020, 05:54:13 PM
Great summary as usual from AFA. I was delighted to see Sean Kelly start at corner back, mentioned it on here previously that I thought he'd be good in that role and he didn't let us down; He was excellent defensively and popped up with a brilliant goal.  Heaney had his hands full with Jamie Brennan and he struggled at times marking him but in fairness he won't be marking too many like Brennan throughout the year, as usual Heaney is the man you'd want going through on goal.

Kicckouts continue to be a problem and will need serious work between league and championship, Galway did well on Paton's kickouts but the wind likely played its part though; Comer made a difference second half and got his hands on every ball that come his way.

I thought O'Donnell had a poor first half, kicked the ball away on several occasions. Perhaps I'm been very harsh but I think on a summer days on a good pitch his lack of speed of the mark will come back to haunt us. Steede was anonymous, not sure how many more chances he'll get and D'Arcy will have to do more to keep himself in the team. Cooke is a big loss especially given the way Galway are playing. Boyle extremely lucky to stay on, PJ must see something in him but we've yet to see it yet. I liked that 2nd point Finnerty kicked, he didn't need much space to get his shot away; I still think he's got a bit of developing to do physically.

Walsh is just a joy to watch, lets hope he keeps this up as there's only a few players who can match him for talent.

What's going on here? Man was immense during the club series - doesn't seem like a lack of talent.

Not sure he's suited to intercounty football. He's not the quickest and that seems to be much more evident at intercounty level where he just seems a small bit off the pace. Midfield at intercounty level seems increasingly a place for good athletes and as good a footballer as Steede is at club level he probably wouldn't ever be considered particularly athletic. I mean if you watched club football in Galway you'd never pick Tom Flynn ahead of Steede (granted Flynn's club is only junior now) but Flynn has been a far better performer at intercounty level even though he's had more chances than Steede has.

Wouldn't write him off completely as maybe he can adjust with game time but he hasn't had much of an impact in the last two games.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on February 11, 2020, 06:13:15 PM
Have to agree with AFA re John Concannon on the sideline - if ever there was a lad to have nowhere near the pitch...
He has a history of that kind of bullshit and Pj needs to sort him out imo.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Duine Eile on February 11, 2020, 07:19:35 PM
Great summary as usual from AFA. I was delighted to see Sean Kelly start at corner back, mentioned it on here previously that I thought he'd be good in that role and he didn't let us down; He was excellent defensively and popped up with a brilliant goal.  Heaney had his hands full with Jamie Brennan and he struggled at times marking him but in fairness he won't be marking too many like Brennan throughout the year, as usual Heaney is the man you'd want going through on goal.

Kicckouts continue to be a problem and will need serious work between league and championship, Galway did well on Paton's kickouts but the wind likely played its part though; Comer made a difference second half and got his hands on every ball that come his way.

I thought O'Donnell had a poor first half, kicked the ball away on several occasions. Perhaps I'm been very harsh but I think on a summer days on a good pitch his lack of speed of the mark will come back to haunt us. Steede was anonymous, not sure how many more chances he'll get and D'Arcy will have to do more to keep himself in the team. Cooke is a big loss especially given the way Galway are playing. Boyle extremely lucky to stay on, PJ must see something in him but we've yet to see it yet. I liked that 2nd point Finnerty kicked, he didn't need much space to get his shot away; I still think he's got a bit of developing to do physically.

Walsh is just a joy to watch, lets hope he keeps this up as there's only a few players who can match him for talent.

What's going on here? Man was immense during the club series - doesn't seem like a lack of talent.
Apparently most of the Corofin lads are heading back this week so it'd be interesting to see how he'd get on with the likes of Silke or Molloy behind him and Burke up front, would it make any difference. In fairness to him he went straight in and didn't take the break the others did,I'd say he'll get another chance, PJ seems to like him and he's showing the commitment. Agreed about Boyle, don't think he has what it takes.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: AFM on February 11, 2020, 10:34:46 PM
Good win for Tyrone, sure Mickey be happy, probably looking forward to next game playing away for another 2 points.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: twohands!!! on February 12, 2020, 04:16:28 PM
While Cliffords red card was disgraceful arguably the worst decision of the weekend went almost unnoticed. Meath should have had a penalty in the first half when they were denied a goal by a blatant foot block by I think O’connor. RTE didn’t even show a replay of the incident but I’d recorded it and it’s actually a blatant and dangerous foot block.

The Meath player never actually kicked the ball so it wasn't a foot block.

Correct - DOC kicked it away before the Meath player got to it. Great piece of last-ditch defending.

Actual wording of the foot block rule

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5.1 To block or attempt to block with the boot when an opponent is kicking the ball from the hand(s).

Stonewall foot block.

This is also a Category 1 Agressive Foul so should have been a yellow card as well as a penalty.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 13, 2020, 10:28:04 AM
I've seen a bit of talk in the media about Conor McKenna returning from the AFL and him having an impact for Tyrone and its not coming from Tyrone people either. I have it it was 2013 when he was a minor the last time he actually played a game?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Dire Ear on February 13, 2020, 10:42:59 AM
I've seen a bit of talk in the media about Conor McKenna returning from the AFL and him having an impact for Tyrone and its not coming from Tyrone people either. I have it it was 2013 when he was a minor the last time he actually played a game?
He's a fine, fine footballer and now a better athlete;  my only worry would be that the way they're being trained nowadays in Tyrone that the football is trained out of them
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Tubberman on February 13, 2020, 10:45:22 AM
While Cliffords red card was disgraceful arguably the worst decision of the weekend went almost unnoticed. Meath should have had a penalty in the first half when they were denied a goal by a blatant foot block by I think O’connor. RTE didn’t even show a replay of the incident but I’d recorded it and it’s actually a blatant and dangerous foot block.

The Meath player never actually kicked the ball so it wasn't a foot block.

Correct - DOC kicked it away before the Meath player got to it. Great piece of last-ditch defending.

Actual wording of the foot block rule

Quote
5.1 To block or attempt to block with the boot when an opponent is kicking the ball from the hand(s).

Stonewall foot block.

This is also a Category 1 Agressive Foul so should have been a yellow card as well as a penalty.

Note the use of the word "block" in the rule. DOC didn't block it, he kicked it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 13, 2020, 11:38:34 AM
What was the Meath lad at for the Mayo goal, did the green and blue jerseys confuse him?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: lenny on February 13, 2020, 02:13:55 PM
While Cliffords red card was disgraceful arguably the worst decision of the weekend went almost unnoticed. Meath should have had a penalty in the first half when they were denied a goal by a blatant foot block by I think O’connor. RTE didn’t even show a replay of the incident but I’d recorded it and it’s actually a blatant and dangerous foot block.

The Meath player never actually kicked the ball so it wasn't a foot block.

Correct - DOC kicked it away before the Meath player got to it. Great piece of last-ditch defending.

Actual wording of the foot block rule

Quote
5.1 To block or attempt to block with the boot when an opponent is kicking the ball from the hand(s).

Stonewall foot block.

This is also a Category 1 Agressive Foul so should have been a yellow card as well as a penalty.

Note the use of the word "block" in the rule. DOC didn't block it, he kicked it.

Once you’ve dropped the ball to kick it you are in the act of kicking and it’s very dangerous at that point for an opponent to use his foot to tackle. It was a blatant penalty and yellow card all day long.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on February 13, 2020, 04:28:33 PM
I thought it was a definite penalty tbh
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: imtommygunn on February 13, 2020, 05:10:20 PM
Likewise
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 13, 2020, 05:21:10 PM
Any of those young Mayo forwards able to kick with either feet? I always found that the biggest difference between Mayo & Dublins forwards.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: twohands!!! on February 13, 2020, 06:12:44 PM
While Cliffords red card was disgraceful arguably the worst decision of the weekend went almost unnoticed. Meath should have had a penalty in the first half when they were denied a goal by a blatant foot block by I think O’connor. RTE didn’t even show a replay of the incident but I’d recorded it and it’s actually a blatant and dangerous foot block.

The Meath player never actually kicked the ball so it wasn't a foot block.

Correct - DOC kicked it away before the Meath player got to it. Great piece of last-ditch defending.

Actual wording of the foot block rule

Quote
5.1 To block or attempt to block with the boot when an opponent is kicking the ball from the hand(s).

Stonewall foot block.

This is also a Category 1 Agressive Foul so should have been a yellow card as well as a penalty.

Note the use of the word "block" in the rule. DOC didn't block it, he kicked it.

Kicking the ball away with the foot in this instance is and always has been regarded as a foot block.

The referee either missed it or didn't know the rule.

Do you think it would be safe and legitimate for defenders to be allowed tackle players in possession in this manner i.e. defenders would be allowed to try and kick the ball away when the player in possession is in the act of shooting. 

Imagine a situation where this was regarded as a legitimate tackle and it was happening 5-10 times a game - where defenders were swinging their leg at players in the act of kicking the ball.
My understanding was always that the reason a foot block is a yellow card offence was because of the high level of risk of injury. I'm nearly certain this was clarified back in the mid 2000s by the football review task force - from what I can recall they looked at it and issued clarification to refs about it having to be deliberate and emphasising the danger of it.
Can you not see how dangerous this would be when it goes wrong? Just because DOC managed to kick it away in this instance does not make it a legitimate tackle.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: bucko on February 13, 2020, 10:22:34 PM
One of the lads I play a bit of football with is a referee and we had a discussion on it a good while back, his interpretation was that if the blocker's foot made contact with with ball while it was still in contact with the kickers foot it was a stonewall free. However if the ball had left the kickers foot and the blockers foot then made contact with the ball he generally wouldn’t whistle it up. Didn’t see the incident myself so can't give an opinion on it but just thought I’d mention one ref's interpretation.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on February 13, 2020, 11:47:53 PM
One of the lads I play a bit of football with is a referee and we had a discussion on it a good while back, his interpretation was that if the blocker's foot made contact with with ball while it was still in contact with the kickers foot it was a stonewall free. However if the ball had left the kickers foot and the blockers foot then made contact with the ball he generally wouldn’t whistle it up. Didn’t see the incident myself so can't give an opinion on it but just thought I’d mention one ref's interpretation.

The incident you're describing isn't a foot block AFAIK
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: omaghjoe on February 15, 2020, 08:47:00 AM
One of the lads I play a bit of football with is a referee and we had a discussion on it a good while back, his interpretation was that if the blocker's foot made contact with with ball while it was still in contact with the kickers foot it was a stonewall free. However if the ball had left the kickers foot and the blockers foot then made contact with the ball he generally wouldn’t whistle it up. Didn’t see the incident myself so can't give an opinion on it but just thought I’d mention one ref's interpretation.

Aye but if the kick away/block comes within the follow thru of the kicker foot i would regard it as a foul as the danger of I jury is still there.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 18, 2020, 09:16:57 PM
TG4  have scheduled deferred coverage of the Monaghan Mayo game, sometime after the Galway Tyrone game.
Usually Mayo supporters can't stop nattering about all things Mayo, perhaps cowed into silent apprehension about Sunday's encounter?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 18, 2020, 10:06:35 PM
TG4  have scheduled deferred coverage of the Monaghan Mayo game, sometime after the Galway Tyrone game.
Usually Mayo supporters can't stop nattering about all things Mayo, perhaps cowed into silent apprehension about Sunday's encounter?

It's a massive game for Mayo. Lose and I think we'll be in Division 2 next year. I'm not expecting a Mayo win given the Donegal and Meath performances. You can make an allowance for the Dublin game, but I think Dublin would have upped the tempo anyway in the second half if we had the fifteen for the whole game. The younger forwards badly need to step up to the plate this weekend for us to have any chance of getting anything out of this one.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 18, 2020, 10:14:54 PM
TG4  have scheduled deferred coverage of the Monaghan Mayo game, sometime after the Galway Tyrone game.
Usually Mayo supporters can't stop nattering about all things Mayo, perhaps cowed into silent apprehension about Sunday's encounter?

It's a massive game for Mayo. Lose and I think we'll be in Division 2 next year. I'm not expecting a Mayo win given the Donegal and Meath performances. You can make an allowance for the Dublin game, but I think Dublin would have upped the tempo anyway in the second half if we had the fifteen for the whole game. The younger forwards badly need to step up to the plate this weekend for us to have any chance of getting anything out of this one.

Donegal look more likely to join Meath in division two next year regardless of the result in Clones this weekend.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on February 18, 2020, 10:17:51 PM
TG4  have scheduled deferred coverage of the Monaghan Mayo game, sometime after the Galway Tyrone game.
Usually Mayo supporters can't stop nattering about all things Mayo, perhaps cowed into silent apprehension about Sunday's encounter?

It's a massive game for Mayo. Lose and I think we'll be in Division 2 next year. I'm not expecting a Mayo win given the Donegal and Meath performances. You can make an allowance for the Dublin game, but I think Dublin would have upped the tempo anyway in the second half if we had the fifteen for the whole game. The younger forwards badly need to step up to the plate this weekend for us to have any chance of getting anything out of this one.

Just can’t see how we can win it on present form, very disjointed , terrible gameplan , I can’t even see a pattern to it at all , it’s very free for all stuff, Aido taking that sideline in Navan summed it up for me .  Monaghan are extremely tough and very fit for this time of year , could possibly open us up for a right thrashing but knowing our bucks and their desire to be so mercurial, we will probably win with a headed goal from Robbie Hennelly in the tenth min of injury time .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on February 18, 2020, 10:37:18 PM
TG4  have scheduled deferred coverage of the Monaghan Mayo game, sometime after the Galway Tyrone game.
Usually Mayo supporters can't stop nattering about all things Mayo, perhaps cowed into silent apprehension about Sunday's encounter?

It's a massive game for Mayo. Lose and I think we'll be in Division 2 next year. I'm not expecting a Mayo win given the Donegal and Meath performances. You can make an allowance for the Dublin game, but I think Dublin would have upped the tempo anyway in the second half if we had the fifteen for the whole game. The younger forwards badly need to step up to the plate this weekend for us to have any chance of getting anything out of this one.

Just can’t see how we can win it on present form, very disjointed , terrible gameplan , I can’t even see a pattern to it at all , it’s very free for all stuff, Aido taking that sideline in Navan summed it up for me .  Monaghan are extremely tough and very fit for this time of year , could possibly open us up for a right thrashing but knowing our bucks and their desire to be so mercurial, we will probably win with a headed goal from Robbie Hennelly in the tenth min of injury time .

That was a strange one alright  :(
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 18, 2020, 10:41:04 PM
The @Galway_GAA team to play @TyroneGAALive on Sunday at Tuam Stadium

Conor Gleeson (Dunmore MacHales)
Sean Kelly (Moycullen)
Sean Ó Maolchiaráin (Oileain Arann)
Johnny Heaney (Killanin)
Gary O’Donnell (Tuam Stars)
Liam Silke (Corofin)
Cillian McDaid (Monivea Abbey)
Ronan Steede (Corofin)
Cein D’Arcy (Caherlistrane)
Eamonn Brannigan (St Michael's)
Damien Comer (Annaghdown)
Michael Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Robert Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin-Clonberne)
Adrian Varley (Cortoon Shamrocks)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on February 18, 2020, 11:11:10 PM
The @Galway_GAA team to play @TyroneGAALive on Sunday at Tuam Stadium

Conor Gleeson (Dunmore MacHales)
Sean Kelly (Moycullen)
Sean Ó Maolchiaráin (Oileain Arann)
Johnny Heaney (Killanin)
Gary O’Donnell (Tuam Stars)
Liam Silke (Corofin)
Cillian McDaid (Monivea Abbey)
Ronan Steede (Corofin)
Cein D’Arcy (Caherlistrane)
Eamonn Brannigan (St Michael's)
Damien Comer (Annaghdown)
Michael Daly (Mountbellew-Moylough)
Robert Finnerty (Salthill Knocknacarra)
Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin-Clonberne)
Adrian Varley (Cortoon Shamrocks)

Very potent forward line especially when have Ian Burke and Martin Farragher to come back in.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 18, 2020, 11:25:38 PM
Ian Burke's 2019 form in a Galway jersey was terrible, if he plays at a 2018 level then he'll be a massive addition but he has it all to do to get back to that standard.
Farragher has done absolutely nothing yet at inter county and was piss poor against Mayo last July but in fairness he hasn't got too many opportunities outside of that either.

John Daly must be injured, big loss for Sunday as he's been outstanding so far this year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 19, 2020, 01:30:53 AM
Monaghan's season ended early in 2019, so to be back in training in November wasn't a big stretch, they are a bit ahead of the pack on the fitness levels.
It should be a very  good game unless the weather intervenes and after Dublin stealing a point at the death, I'd expect Monaghan to be chomping at the bit.
Intensity was never an issue with Banty, but it is a strange sight to have tactical brains in the mix as well.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on February 19, 2020, 08:13:37 AM
Ian Burke's 2019 form in a Galway jersey was terrible, if he plays at a 2018 level then he'll be a massive addition but he has it all to do to get back to that standard.
Farragher has done absolutely nothing yet at inter county and was piss poor against Mayo last July but in fairness he hasn't got too many opportunities outside of that either.

John Daly must be injured, big loss for Sunday as he's been outstanding so far this year.
I’m not too sure Ian Burke is even on the panel tbh.
We shall see.
On his 2019 form he would not get on the team - 2018 form he walks onto it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 19, 2020, 09:26:00 AM
Ian Burke's 2019 form in a Galway jersey was terrible, if he plays at a 2018 level then he'll be a massive addition but he has it all to do to get back to that standard.
Farragher has done absolutely nothing yet at inter county and was piss poor against Mayo last July but in fairness he hasn't got too many opportunities outside of that either.

John Daly must be injured, big loss for Sunday as he's been outstanding so far this year.
Daly picked up a knock (ankle I think) against Donegal so out for this weekend it seems.  His direct replacement needs to start showing some form at IC level as his last outing in a Galway jersey was very poor indeed.

For sure Farragher was poor but he also needs to have a much better attitude - what he displayed last July below in Limerick is just not acceptable at this level.  His issue was probably with KW, but nonetheless he was like a spoilt brat!

Weather not forecast to improve much between now and Sunday so will be very much a slog for both teams in Tuam.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 20, 2020, 10:33:25 AM
Mayo XV

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Lee Keegan - Westport
5. Eoghan McLaughlin - Westport
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
9. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy (C)
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. Darren Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
15. James Carr - Ardagh
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 20, 2020, 10:57:01 AM
Ian Burke's 2019 form in a Galway jersey was terrible, if he plays at a 2018 level then he'll be a massive addition but he has it all to do to get back to that standard.
Farragher has done absolutely nothing yet at inter county and was piss poor against Mayo last July but in fairness he hasn't got too many opportunities outside of that either.

John Daly must be injured, big loss for Sunday as he's been outstanding so far this year.
Daly picked up a knock (ankle I think) against Donegal so out for this weekend it seems.  His direct replacement needs to start showing some form at IC level as his last outing in a Galway jersey was very poor indeed.

For sure Farragher was poor but he also needs to have a much better attitude - what he displayed last July below in Limerick is just not acceptable at this level.  His issue was probably with KW, but nonetheless he was like a spoilt brat!

I didn't see this particular incident myself during that game, only heard about it afterwards but that type of behaviour when substituted isn't really acceptable, it's not like he was getting wrongly subbed after having lit up the Mayo FB line either.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: MayoBuck on February 20, 2020, 11:11:27 AM
Mayo XV

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Lee Keegan - Westport
5. Eoghan McLaughlin - Westport
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
9. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy (C)
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. Darren Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
15. James Carr - Ardagh

Midfield and forwards look fairly good considering our absentees but a very inexperienced backline.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on February 20, 2020, 11:19:05 AM
Ian Burke's 2019 form in a Galway jersey was terrible, if he plays at a 2018 level then he'll be a massive addition but he has it all to do to get back to that standard.
Farragher has done absolutely nothing yet at inter county and was piss poor against Mayo last July but in fairness he hasn't got too many opportunities outside of that either.

John Daly must be injured, big loss for Sunday as he's been outstanding so far this year.
Daly picked up a knock (ankle I think) against Donegal so out for this weekend it seems.  His direct replacement needs to start showing some form at IC level as his last outing in a Galway jersey was very poor indeed.

For sure Farragher was poor but he also needs to have a much better attitude - what he displayed last July below in Limerick is just not acceptable at this level.  His issue was probably with KW, but nonetheless he was like a spoilt brat!

I didn't see this particular incident myself during that game, only heard about it afterwards but that type of behaviour when substituted isn't really acceptable, it's not like he was getting wrongly subbed after having lit up the Mayo FB line either.
Absolutely. He was anonymous on the day so could have no complaints about being substituted.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: rosnarun on February 20, 2020, 12:49:20 PM
Mayo XV

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Padraig O'Hora - Ballina Stephenites
3. Oisin Mullin - Kilmaine
4. Lee Keegan - Westport
5. Eoghan McLaughlin - Westport
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
9. Aidan O'Shea - Breaffy (C)
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Ryan O'Donoghue - Belmullet
12. Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
13. Kevin McLoughlin - Knockmore
14. Darren Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
15. James Carr - Ardagh

Midfield and forwards look fairly good considering our absentees but a very inexperienced backline.
JH definitely is playing the long game with his selections lets just hope Mayo can retain DIV 1 status while doing it .
hes doing what has been needed to be done for the last couple of years , But monaghan in particular seem to be putting out a near championship team So Far,
Could be a long day but im sure end will justify the means
anyone know much about  Eoghan McLaughlin big looking lad but its a big step up
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on February 21, 2020, 11:04:04 AM
Is the mayo/Monaghan game on Sunday likely to go ahead or how is clones pitch in wet weather?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 21, 2020, 12:36:20 PM
Is the mayo/Monaghan game on Sunday likely to go ahead or how is clones pitch in wet weather?
St. Tiernach's use to be bog like in wet weather  (think Healy Park), but the pitch has been totally renewed with a first class Prunty pitch.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on February 21, 2020, 03:14:27 PM
Donegal manager calls for scrapping of 'confusing' new rules

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Bonner says the new rules surrounding the advanced mark and sin-bin, along with the continuous struggle surrounding timekeeping, must be remedied.

“I don’t think the rules are suiting anyone. They aren’t doing anything for the game,” said Bonner.

“The advanced mark is so confusing. It hasn’t been what it was meant to have been with that aerial ball going in. It is slowing the game down. It is definitely not enhancing it.

“The black card isn’t serving its purpose either. There are teams just taking advantage of stopping the game. Ten minutes after a black card, you are lucky to get two or three minutes of football played. The game is just so stop-start.

“Over the last couple of years, it has got to being an attacking game of football. Last year there were some epic games in the championship. I don’t see why that has to be changed. It is just adding an element of confusion.

“Also, timekeeping at the end is adding more on top of that. The installation of a hooter, it needs to come in. There are four or five minutes put up on a board and then you are playing nine or ten.

“They are only small things and they can be dealt with very easily.”.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Taylor on February 21, 2020, 04:28:17 PM
Donegal manager calls for scrapping of 'confusing' new rules

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Bonner says the new rules surrounding the advanced mark and sin-bin, along with the continuous struggle surrounding timekeeping, must be remedied.

“I don’t think the rules are suiting anyone. They aren’t doing anything for the game,” said Bonner.

“The advanced mark is so confusing. It hasn’t been what it was meant to have been with that aerial ball going in. It is slowing the game down. It is definitely not enhancing it.

“The black card isn’t serving its purpose either. There are teams just taking advantage of stopping the game. Ten minutes after a black card, you are lucky to get two or three minutes of football played. The game is just so stop-start.

“Over the last couple of years, it has got to being an attacking game of football. Last year there were some epic games in the championship. I don’t see why that has to be changed. It is just adding an element of confusion.

“Also, timekeeping at the end is adding more on top of that. The installation of a hooter, it needs to come in. There are four or five minutes put up on a board and then you are playing nine or ten.

“They are only small things and they can be dealt with very easily.”.

Some epic games but mostly pure shite
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Rossfan on February 21, 2020, 05:00:40 PM
Donegal on the road in good time. Saw them filling up the Bus with chape diesel on the Riscommon side of Carrick earlier.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 22, 2020, 09:20:36 AM
Donegal on the road in good time. Saw them filling up the Bus with chape diesel on the Riscommon side of Carrick earlier.

What the hell were you doing so close to your 'lovely' neighbours?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on February 22, 2020, 11:41:27 AM
Meath (SF v Kerry):
Marcus Brennan;

Robin Clarke, Conor McGill, David Toner;
Ronan Ryan, Brian Conlon, Donal Keogan;

Bryan Menton, Ronan Jones;

James McEntee, Bryan McMahon, Ethan Devine;
Cillian O'Sullivan, Thomas O'Reilly, Shane Walsh.

Same as last game. That lads who were responsible for conceding needless goals two weeks in a row are still starting suggest we still have problems with the panel. Hard to see our forwards having enough cutting edge to cause a shock but hopefully we can at least rattle Kerry for a while. Shane Walsh is lining out for the U20’s today as well. Costello and O’Conner too but they’ll be in the bench tomorrow it seems.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: J70 on February 22, 2020, 11:56:03 AM
Interesting article on the Donegal CB finances in the Times today.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/keeping-donegal-on-the-road-to-success-a-costly-business-1.4179905 (https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/keeping-donegal-on-the-road-to-success-a-costly-business-1.4179905)

They're raffling a house in City West to raise some money in case any of you are interested. 100 euro a ticket.

https://winyourhouseindublin.com (https://winyourhouseindublin.com)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: thejuice on February 22, 2020, 12:38:33 PM
That reminds me, Meath should have sold the Pairc Tailteann site for housing back in the boom years. We’d easily have paid for a new facility with a bit to spare.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Mayo Border on February 22, 2020, 07:11:46 PM
Should be a straight red for Michael Murphy thete
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Taylor on February 22, 2020, 07:18:01 PM
Anyone a stream?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Rossfan on February 22, 2020, 07:23:34 PM
Donegal on the road in good time. Saw them filling up the Bus with chape diesel on the Riscommon side of Carrick earlier.

What the hell were you doing so close to your 'lovely' neighbours?
Work... but I didnt cross the bridge ;D

Diesel 6cent dearer on the other side I'm told.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 22, 2020, 07:26:35 PM
Lovely bit of acting there by Hugh mcfadden. Pushed in the chest and went down holding his head. Muppet.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: gallsman on February 22, 2020, 07:33:47 PM
How long before some of these Donegal lads get punished for faking getting smacked in the head. Embarrassing stuff.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 22, 2020, 07:34:46 PM
How long before some of these Donegal lads get punished for faking getting smacked in the head. Embarrassing stuff.
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It's ridiculous. Just there now again Michael was hit in chest and went down holding the head. Seriously embarrassing stuff.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Taylor on February 22, 2020, 07:37:01 PM
Anyone a stream?

Anyone?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: J70 on February 22, 2020, 07:42:17 PM
Dublin pressure starting to tell in the last five minutes. We’ve had great success with fast kicking into space. Need to get back to a bit of that instead of repeatedly carrying the ball into traffic and getting turned over.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: dublin7 on February 22, 2020, 07:50:06 PM
Donegal better team in the first half. If I was a Donegal fan I'd be worried about their players obsession with their hair. The amount of times a donegal player gets tackled and goes down grabbing his head/hair
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 22, 2020, 07:50:40 PM
Does McHugh usually play so deep? I though he'd be more effective in that attacking space from midfield to the 45.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 22, 2020, 07:59:24 PM
Donegal better team in the first half. If I was a Donegal fan I'd be worried about their players obsession with their hair. The amount of times a donegal player gets tackled and goes down grabbing his head/hair

It's like a team of mccanns 😂
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: J70 on February 22, 2020, 08:01:17 PM
I distinctly remember Ryan McHugh palming in a goal in a quarter final against Dublin around 2015 or 2016.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: dublin7 on February 22, 2020, 08:03:39 PM
I distinctly remember Ryan McHugh palming in a goal in a quarter final against Dublin this around 2015 or 2016.

That he did. They were a quality side who focused on playing football rather than the current side who flatter to deceive and seem more focused on not getting their hair style ruined
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: J70 on February 22, 2020, 08:17:43 PM
Murphy scores from play ten minutes ago
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: J70 on February 22, 2020, 08:18:32 PM
That’s two points Langan has given away from turnovers
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on February 22, 2020, 08:19:25 PM
Dublin reeling them back in. These performance must be slightly worrying for the Dublin management team though. They are certainly coming back into the pack.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 22, 2020, 08:28:59 PM
Awful goal keeping on that Dublin goal.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 22, 2020, 08:31:04 PM
Was that goal legit?  it was budled into the  net with the arms or fist.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 22, 2020, 08:31:47 PM
Murphy is the best player in the game. A tremendous leader.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: hardstation on February 22, 2020, 08:34:19 PM
Was that goal legit?  it was budled into the  net with the arms or fist.
Obviously.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 22, 2020, 08:38:37 PM
Donegal deserve at least a draw out of this game.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: BennyHarp on February 22, 2020, 08:42:17 PM
So the dubs targeted Donegal’s main man so he’d retaliate and get a second yellow. I wonder will everyone lose their shit over this like they did with Tyrone against Kerry.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: J70 on February 22, 2020, 08:43:58 PM
Donegal deserve at least a draw out of this game.

Deserve has nothing to do with it.

O’Baoill could have taken that last chance himself.

We’re probably going down as we can’t see it through in tight situations.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 22, 2020, 08:44:44 PM
So the dubs targeted Donegal’s main man so he’d retaliate and get a second yellow. I wonder will everyone lose their shit over this like they did with Tyrone against Kerry.

Was wondering the exact same thing. It was disgusting but sure it will never recieve the same attention. 4 of the 7 minutes were stopped but the ref played only 1 minute of extra time. Unlike last week when the dubs were losing the red played until they got a draw
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: JoG2 on February 22, 2020, 08:45:06 PM
So the dubs targeted Donegal’s main man so he’d retaliate and get a second yellow. I wonder will everyone lose their shit over this like they did with Tyrone against Kerry.

They absolutely did, and as true as night follows day, the 2 yellows come out. Murphy is some footballer
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: dublin7 on February 22, 2020, 08:46:16 PM
Donegal deserve at least a draw out of this game.
Rubbish. Michael Murphy and to a lesser extent Ryan McHugh carry that team. Felt sorry for the keeper. His kickouts were a majot factor in  Donegal building up their lead. Shouldn't be blamed for the defeat. There is a lack of bottle in that Donegal team. In big games the last few years they've collapsed when the pressures on.

Obviously I exclude Michael Murphy from this. He's a warrior and fully deserved MOTM tonight. If only more of his team mates had his mental strength and commitment
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: J70 on February 22, 2020, 08:54:47 PM
In the plus side, McBrearty getting back and getting match fit and finding his range over the next few weeks should help us tremendously come May.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on February 22, 2020, 08:56:02 PM
John Small always seems to be in the thick of it. Referees need to cop on and see what he is doing off the ball. Great player but gets away with a lot at the same time.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 22, 2020, 08:57:37 PM
Donegal deserve at least a draw out of this game.

Deserve has nothing to do with it.

O’Baoill could have taken that last chance himself.

We’re probably going down as we can’t see it through in tight situations.

Would have got what they deserved if Patton didn't make that rare mistake. Donegal will be left with plenty of what if moments after this league campaign that could bring relegation now.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on February 22, 2020, 08:59:41 PM
The time keeping in Croke Park in question again. The double sending off took near three minutes before play restarted and only 1 extra minute was added?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on February 22, 2020, 09:01:10 PM
So the dubs targeted Donegal’s main man so he’d retaliate and get a second yellow. I wonder will everyone lose their shit over this like they did with Tyrone against Kerry.

Was wondering the exact same thing. It was disgusting but sure it will never recieve the same attention. 4 of the 7 minutes were stopped but the ref played only 1 minute of extra time. Unlike last week when the dubs were losing the red played until they got a draw

And unlike a few weeks ago when Kerry scored their equalizer vs. Dublin 3 minutes after time was up.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Mayo Border on February 22, 2020, 09:03:14 PM
Donegal better team in the first half. If I was a Donegal fan I'd be worried about their players obsession with their hair. The amount of times a donegal player gets tackled and goes down grabbing his head/hair
Johnny Small seems to be developing a bit of a habit also for holding his hair. The clash with Ryan McHugh  should have been a black card for Small who clearly blocked the follow on run by McHugh. But Small cleverly deceived Deegan by falling down holding his head. The medical team were of course required to complete the deception
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 22, 2020, 09:03:23 PM
Was that goal legit?  it was budled into the  net with the arms or fist.
Obviously.
It was close to not being legit, the ball bounced of his chest and was goalbound and he just managed to get his fingers to the ball before it crossed the line.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: BennyCake on February 22, 2020, 09:03:51 PM
In all honesty, there are 30 players on the pitch. The officials can’t see everything.

As frustrating as it is, there’ll continue to be John Small’s and that Tyrone boyo taking out the oppositions players, and getting away with it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: skeog on February 22, 2020, 09:08:08 PM
Murphy should have seen red for his elbow early on.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 22, 2020, 09:10:12 PM
The time keeping in Croke Park in question again. The double sending off took near three minutes before play restarted and only 1 extra minute was added?

Agreed. There was also a few subs during the extra time as well. Should have been at least 4 minutes added onto the 7min but sure would expect nothing less from Maurice as he's the worst ref about
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 22, 2020, 09:13:46 PM
The time keeping in Croke Park in question again. The double sending off took near three minutes before play restarted and only 1 extra minute was added?

Agreed. There was also a few subs during the extra time as well. Should have been at least 4 minutes added onto the 7min but sure would expect nothing less from Maurice as he's the worst ref about
Deggan was very good out there this evening, upwith the play and always ready to play advantage.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: dublin7 on February 22, 2020, 09:24:55 PM
In the 1st half Patton was picking out Donegal players with ease and Donegal built up a nice lead. 2nd half Dublin turned the squeeze and apart from Michael Murphy Donegal players disappeared. Same happened last year against Mayo. Donegal fans can moan all they want about the ref, but need to look closer to home for reasons they lost tonight
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 22, 2020, 10:18:32 PM
Dublin's attack lacks punch without O'Callaghan. The key players for Dublin are McCaffrey, Fenton, Howard, Kilkenny and O'Callaghan. McCarthy has probably been their most consistent player in the past decade but I don't think he has hit his previous heights in the last two seasons.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: SouthDublinBro on February 22, 2020, 10:42:19 PM
The big difference between the sides was the quality of Fenton and Kilkenny. Felt like more of a proper game of football after that pathetic Aussie Rules match Monaghan gave us last time.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: dublin7 on February 23, 2020, 12:06:53 AM
Donegal better team in the first half. If I was a Donegal fan I'd be worried about their players obsession with their hair. The amount of times a donegal player gets tackled and goes down grabbing his head/hair
Johnny Small seems to be developing a bit of a habit also for holding his hair. The clash with Ryan McHugh  should have been a black card for Small who clearly blocked the follow on run by McHugh. But Small cleverly deceived Deegan by falling down holding his head. The medical team were of course required to complete the deception

Take off your anti dublin blinkers. Donegal players were going down consistently in the 1st half grabbing their head even though they hadn't been touched anywhere near their head.  Donegal players disappeared in 2nd half when they needed scores.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Mayo Border on February 23, 2020, 12:49:48 AM
Donegal better team in the first half. If I was a Donegal fan I'd be worried about their players obsession with their hair. The amount of times a donegal player gets tackled and goes down grabbing his head/hair
Johnny Small seems to be developing a bit of a habit also for holding his hair. The clash with Ryan McHugh  should have been a black card for Small who clearly blocked the follow on run by McHugh. But Small cleverly deceived Deegan by falling down holding his head. The medical team were of course required to complete the deception

Take off your anti dublin blinkers. Donegal players were going down consistently in the 1st half grabbing their head even though they hadn't been touched anywhere near their head.  Donegal players disappeared in 2nd half when they needed scores.
No blinkers on here. As you only appeared to be aware of the ref being conned by the Donegal players, I thought it only fair to point out that a similar act was carried out by a Dublin player. You may not have seen it. This would not be the first time Small has pulled this stunt. Anywayó Goodnight to all in Dublin 7
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2020, 07:59:17 AM
Small and cooper two boys who are far from angels really.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 23, 2020, 09:59:03 AM
Small and cooper two boys who are far from angels really.

Agreed although Donegal didn't cover themselves in glory  with constant faking of head injuries. Still waiting on the media outrage over the murphy sending off or the ref time keeping
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 23, 2020, 10:01:26 AM
The time keeping in Croke Park in question again. The double sending off took near three minutes before play restarted and only 1 extra minute was added?

Agreed. There was also a few subs during the extra time as well. Should have been at least 4 minutes added onto the 7min but sure would expect nothing less from Maurice as he's the worst ref about
Deggan was very good out there this evening, upwith the play and always ready to play advantage.

He gave 2 yellow cards to 2 Dublin players for text book black card offence. He allowed for at least 4 of the 7 mins of extra time to be wasted and didn't add it on. Hardly a good day at the office
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 23, 2020, 11:45:41 AM
The time keeping in Croke Park in question again. The double sending off took near three minutes before play restarted and only 1 extra minute was added?

Agreed. There was also a few subs during the extra time as well. Should have been at least 4 minutes added onto the 7min but sure would expect nothing less from Maurice as he's the worst ref about
Deggan was very good out there this evening, upwith the play and always ready to play advantage.

He gave 2 yellow cards to 2 Dublin players for text book black card offence. He allowed for at least 4 of the 7 mins of extra time to be wasted and didn't add it on. Hardly a good day at the office
Agreed on those points, no ref is 100%. Personally I like the way he manages the advantage, he allowed an excellent game to flow as best he could, he was in control, generally did not fall for the outbreak of face clutching antics and got most decisions right.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 23, 2020, 11:51:59 AM
The time keeping in Croke Park in question again. The double sending off took near three minutes before play restarted and only 1 extra minute was added?

Agreed. There was also a few subs during the extra time as well. Should have been at least 4 minutes added onto the 7min but sure would expect nothing less from Maurice as he's the worst ref about
Deggan was very good out there this evening, upwith the play and always ready to play advantage.

He gave 2 yellow cards to 2 Dublin players for text book black card offence. He allowed for at least 4 of the 7 mins of extra time to be wasted and didn't add it on. Hardly a good day at the office
Agreed on those points, no ref is 100%. Personally I like the way he manages the advantage, he allowed an excellent game to flow as best he could, he was in control, generally did not fall for the outbreak of face clutching antics and got most decisions right.

Deegan is an absolute clown of a referee.

He can spot a foul 70 yards away but can't referee what is happening a couple of yards in front. He also should not be allowed referee matches involving Kerry.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 23, 2020, 12:24:01 PM
The time keeping in Croke Park in question again. The double sending off took near three minutes before play restarted and only 1 extra minute was added?

Agreed. There was also a few subs during the extra time as well. Should have been at least 4 minutes added onto the 7min but sure would expect nothing less from Maurice as he's the worst ref about
Deggan was very good out there this evening, upwith the play and always ready to play advantage.

He gave 2 yellow cards to 2 Dublin players for text book black card offence. He allowed for at least 4 of the 7 mins of extra time to be wasted and didn't add it on. Hardly a good day at the office
Agreed on those points, no ref is 100%. Personally I like the way he manages the advantage, he allowed an excellent game to flow as best he could, he was in control, generally did not fall for the outbreak of face clutching antics and got most decisions right.
I had a look at the added time
The addded time notice  of 7 minutes went up on 71 minutes, after play was resumed.   20 seconds for the subs,
Altogether 2 minutes were used for the melee and the red cards, Deegan spent most of the time waiting for it to settle down, beats me why Donegal players were messing about wasting time when there was a point to play for.


Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2020, 02:16:57 PM
Galway playing some great football. Hope they keep playing like this in c’ship too. McCurry is playing some stuff from Tyrone too. Some very clever passing from him.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: joemamas on February 23, 2020, 02:21:08 PM
Do Mayo have wind advantage in Clones.
My Irish is not the best
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 23, 2020, 02:35:07 PM
Galway playing some great football. Hope they keep playing like this in c’ship too. McCurry is playing some stuff from Tyrone too. Some very clever passing from him.

Still tying to get my head around how that was a straight red
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Itchy on February 23, 2020, 02:36:14 PM
Galway playing some great football. Hope they keep playing like this in c’ship too. McCurry is playing some stuff from Tyrone too. Some very clever passing from him.

Still tying to get my head around how that was a straight red

Made aggressive contact with Galway man's jaw, that's why. Right call in my opinion.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 23, 2020, 02:36:37 PM
The red card for McGeary is one of the worst decisions I've seen from a referee.

The Galway player hopped up laughing as soon as the red card was issued.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: BennyCake on February 23, 2020, 02:37:27 PM
Badly timed shoulder, but McGeary checking to see if Galway opponent is ok before making his way off. So at least there’s still some snippets of sportsmanship alive in the game. At least I think that’s what he was at  ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 23, 2020, 02:39:29 PM
Galway playing some great football. Hope they keep playing like this in c’ship too. McCurry is playing some stuff from Tyrone too. Some very clever passing from him.

Still tying to get my head around how that was a straight red

Made aggressive contact with Galway man's jaw, that's why. Right call in my opinion.
😂😂😂 Aggressive contact. Is there a non aggressive contact. Was clear as day he was going for a shoulder to shoulder but the Galway lad turned at the last second. Was no where near his jaw.

If you honestly think that was red you should stick to non contact sports in all seriousness
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Nanderson on February 23, 2020, 02:39:35 PM
The red card for McGeary is one of the worst decisions I've seen from a referee.

The Galway player hopped up laughing as soon as the red card was issued.
Mooney from Down got red carded in championship last year for a similar challenge. Any shoulder or elbow that connects with the head is a straight red in the new rules to help prevent concussions. You could actually see it twist his head as McGeary made contact
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: redzone on February 23, 2020, 02:40:38 PM
Galway playing some great football. Hope they keep playing like this in c’ship too. McCurry is playing some stuff from Tyrone too. Some very clever passing from him.

Still tying to get my head around how that was a straight red

Made aggressive contact with Galway man's jaw, that's why. Right call in my opinion.
Galway player gets up laughing after it
Galway playing lovely football in fairness.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 23, 2020, 02:43:16 PM
The red card for McGeary is one of the worst decisions I've seen from a referee.

The Galway player hopped up laughing as soon as the red card was issued.
Mooney from Down got red carded in championship last year for a similar challenge. Any shoulder or elbow that connects with the head is a straight red in the new rules to help prevent concussions. You could actually see it twist his head as McGeary made contact

Red card rules as below

1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
4. Spitting at an opponent.
5. Contributing to a melee.
6. Stamping.
7. Inflicting injury recklessly.
8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.

Non of which applied to kierans challenge
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2020, 02:44:35 PM
7?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 23, 2020, 02:47:18 PM
7?

It wasn't a reckless challenge as it was a shoulder. Plus thr Galway lad got up smiling as soon as the card was show
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Itchy on February 23, 2020, 02:47:57 PM
Galway playing some great football. Hope they keep playing like this in c’ship too. McCurry is playing some stuff from Tyrone too. Some very clever passing from him.

Still tying to get my head around how that was a straight red

Made aggressive contact with Galway man's jaw, that's why. Right call in my opinion.
Galway player gets up laughing after it
Galway playing lovely football in fairness.

Laughing afterwards does not reverse the foul, you will have to put in a motion for that. Now it certainly wasnt as a hard a belt as Tiarnan McCanns hair got that time but you can see his head twist with force of impact. In fairness McGeary came back on too to check was he ok. Correct call.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: dublin7 on February 23, 2020, 02:48:25 PM
Galway playing some great football. Hope they keep playing like this in c’ship too. McCurry is playing some stuff from Tyrone too. Some very clever passing from him.

Still tying to get my head around how that was a straight red

Made aggressive contact with Galway man's jaw, that's why. Right call in my opinion.
😂😂😂 Aggressive contact. Is there a non aggressive contact. Was clear as day he was going for a shoulder to shoulder but the Galway lad turned at the last second. Was no where near his jaw.

If you honestly think that was red you should stick to non contact sports in all seriousness

His shoulder connected with the Galway lads jaw. Stone wall red and easy decision for the ref. Disappointed the Galway player wasn’t taken off. It’s a joke the way concussion is ignored by all teams in the GAA
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Sportacus on February 23, 2020, 02:49:15 PM
100% a red card. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 23, 2020, 02:51:30 PM
100% a red card.

Yes after looking at the 3rd replay on TG4, shoulder definitely hit the jaw of the Galway player. Fully deserved.

PS. Monaghan 1-5 Mayo 0-8 halftime score from Clones.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 23, 2020, 02:51:45 PM
Galway playing some great football. Hope they keep playing like this in c’ship too. McCurry is playing some stuff from Tyrone too. Some very clever passing from him.

Still tying to get my head around how that was a straight red

Made aggressive contact with Galway man's jaw, that's why. Right call in my opinion.
😂😂😂 Aggressive contact. Is there a non aggressive contact. Was clear as day he was going for a shoulder to shoulder but the Galway lad turned at the last second. Was no where near his jaw.

If you honestly think that was red you should stick to non contact sports in all seriousness

His shoulder connected with the Galway lads jaw. Stone wall red and easy decision for the ref. Disappointed the Galway player wasn’t taken off. It’s a joke the way concussion is ignored by all teams in the GAA

Shoulder hit his chest/shoulder never his jaw. If that hit his jaw he would have been knocked out

https://twitter.com/TyroneGAALive/status/1231591121660317712?s=19
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: dublin7 on February 23, 2020, 02:55:08 PM
Galway playing some great football. Hope they keep playing like this in c’ship too. McCurry is playing some stuff from Tyrone too. Some very clever passing from him.

Still tying to get my head around how that was a straight red

Made aggressive contact with Galway man's jaw, that's why. Right call in my opinion.
😂😂😂 Aggressive contact. Is there a non aggressive contact. Was clear as day he was going for a shoulder to shoulder but the Galway lad turned at the last second. Was no where near his jaw.

If you honestly think that was red you should stick to non contact sports in all seriousness

His shoulder connected with the Galway lads jaw. Stone wall red and easy decision for the ref. Disappointed the Galway player wasn’t taken off. It’s a joke the way concussion is ignored by all teams in the GAA

Shoulder hit his chest/shoulder never his jaw. If that hit his jaw he would have been knocked out

https://twitter.com/TyroneGAALive/status/1231591121660317712?s=19

He did look to be momentarily knocked out the way he went down. You could see his head snap to the side as he got hit. It’s a red card
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2020, 02:56:46 PM
Deleted. I would say while not every ref would give a red card for that most would. It is certainly not close to the worst decision ever. If I were a Tyrone man I’d be frustrated with mcgeary’s discipline. Again it was poor. The elbow was up too.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: lenny on February 23, 2020, 03:03:09 PM
Deleted. I would say while not every ref would give a red card for that most would. It is certainly not close to the worst decision ever. If I were a Tyrone man I’d be frustrated with mcgeary’s discipline. Again it was poor. The elbow was up too.

Obvious red card. Very dangerous tackle. Feel a bit sorry for mcgeary because I don’t think he’s a dirty player. Moment of madness from him.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: square_ball on February 23, 2020, 03:03:56 PM
Deleted. I would say while not every ref would give a red card for that most would. It is certainly not close to the worst decision ever. If I were a Tyrone man I’d be frustrated with mcgeary’s discipline. Again it was poor. The elbow was up too.

Fair point. He’s reckless in the tackle generally. Still don’t think he made contact with the head but similar to VAR we have the benefit of looking at numerous replays and it’s still not clear.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 23, 2020, 03:05:42 PM
That is McShane's season over.

You could see the bone coming out through his sock there.

Think McAliskey had a similar injury with Clonoe a few years back.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Itchy on February 23, 2020, 03:18:58 PM
Poor cathal mcshane, best wishes to him for his recovery.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 23, 2020, 03:19:48 PM
That is McShane's season over.

You could see the bone coming out through his sock there.

Think McAliskey had a similar injury with Clonoe a few years back.
Given all the press around his return you could have almost have called this happening to him at some stage this season. Nightmare. Hope he has no long term issues over it
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 23, 2020, 03:30:35 PM
That is McShane's season over.

You could see the bone coming out through his sock there.

Think McAliskey had a similar injury with Clonoe a few years back.
Given all the press around his return you could have almost have called this happening to him at some stage this season. Nightmare. Hope he has no long term issues over it

Ya looks a bad break/dislocation.

Will definitely need surgery and can't see him being involved this year now as a result. Best wishes to him as you say.

Leaves Tyrone in a bad way going forward.

The surface in Tuam is very, very bad. The ground completely gave way on him coming down there.

Conor Lane was absolutely scandalous today, think it was after he did everything he could for Galway against Derry a few years back that Brian McIver packed management in at county level. Tyrone will rue the missed chances in the first half before the red card though.

The impact of red cards in comparison to say 15/20 years ago now is huge, the game is all based around possession and space so if you're down a man for a extended period of time then you are up against a serious task. So if referees have to make a decision like they that they have to be sure which made Lane's decision even more laughable. I'd say every game played across the weekend had a more obvious red card offence not given than that today.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: lenny on February 23, 2020, 03:34:17 PM
That is McShane's season over.

You could see the bone coming out through his sock there.

Think McAliskey had a similar injury with Clonoe a few years back.
Given all the press around his return you could have almost have called this happening to him at some stage this season. Nightmare. Hope he has no long term issues over it

Ya looks a bad break/dislocation.

Will definitely need surgery and can't see him being involved this year now as a result. Best wishes to him as you say.

Leaves Tyrone in a bad way going forward.

The surface in Tuam is very, very bad. The ground completely gave way on him coming down there.

Conor Lane was absolutely scandalous today, think it was after he did everything he could for Galway against Derry a few years back that Brian McIver packed management in at county level. Tyrone will rue the missed chances in the first half before the red card though.

The impact of red cards in comparison to say 15/20 years ago now is huge, the game is all based around possession and space so if you're down a man for a extended period of time then you are up against a serious task. So if referees have to make a decision like they that they have to be sure which made Lane's decision even more laughable. I'd say every game played across the weekend had a more obvious red card offence not given than that today.

The 2 red cards given to tyrone were correct and obvious decisions. I don’t think you’ll find any neutrals backing you up. The mcgeary tackle was a very dangerous one. Genuinely hope the mcshane injury isn’t as bad as it looked.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 23, 2020, 03:41:24 PM
That is McShane's season over.

You could see the bone coming out through his sock there.

Think McAliskey had a similar injury with Clonoe a few years back.
Given all the press around his return you could have almost have called this happening to him at some stage this season. Nightmare. Hope he has no long term issues over it

Ya looks a bad break/dislocation.

Will definitely need surgery and can't see him being involved this year now as a result. Best wishes to him as you say.

Leaves Tyrone in a bad way going forward.

The surface in Tuam is very, very bad. The ground completely gave way on him coming down there.

Conor Lane was absolutely scandalous today, think it was after he did everything he could for Galway against Derry a few years back that Brian McIver packed management in at county level. Tyrone will rue the missed chances in the first half before the red card though.

The impact of red cards in comparison to say 15/20 years ago now is huge, the game is all based around possession and space so if you're down a man for a extended period of time then you are up against a serious task. So if referees have to make a decision like they that they have to be sure which made Lane's decision even more laughable. I'd say every game played across the weekend had a more obvious red card offence not given than that today.

The 2 red cards given to tyrone were correct and obvious decisions. I don’t think you’ll find any neutrals backing you up. The mcgeary tackle was a very dangerous one. Genuinely hope the mcshane injury isn’t as bad as it looked.

The first red card was a crazy decision. The Galway player turns into McGeary's shoulder. If you are giving red cards for that then you will have to remove the shoulder charge form the game, it is either or.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: square_ball on February 23, 2020, 03:42:19 PM
Irrespective of how poor Tyrone were and playing v 14 and 13 men, Galway were very impressive.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 23, 2020, 03:42:27 PM
That is McShane's season over.

You could see the bone coming out through his sock there.

Think McAliskey had a similar injury with Clonoe a few years back.
Given all the press around his return you could have almost have called this happening to him at some stage this season. Nightmare. Hope he has no long term issues over it

Ya looks a bad break/dislocation.

Will definitely need surgery and can't see him being involved this year now as a result. Best wishes to him as you say.

Leaves Tyrone in a bad way going forward.

The surface in Tuam is very, very bad. The ground completely gave way on him coming down there.

Conor Lane was absolutely scandalous today, think it was after he did everything he could for Galway against Derry a few years back that Brian McIver packed management in at county level. Tyrone will rue the missed chances in the first half before the red card though.

The impact of red cards in comparison to say 15/20 years ago now is huge, the game is all based around possession and space so if you're down a man for a extended period of time then you are up against a serious task. So if referees have to make a decision like they that they have to be sure which made Lane's decision even more laughable. I'd say every game played across the weekend had a more obvious red card offence not given than that today.

The 2 red cards given to tyrone were correct and obvious decisions. I don’t think you’ll find any neutrals backing you up. The mcgeary tackle was a very dangerous one. Genuinely hope the mcshane injury isn’t as bad as it looked.

I have seen plenty of neutrals saying the 1st one was harsh. Some have said after the 3rd viewing it was a red but sure the ref doesn't have that luxury.

The pitch looked in very bad condition today. Thought the ref was harsh on tyrone as in the first half there was 3-4 clear examples of a tyrone forward either being held back or had their arm pulled but no free given.

The 2nd tyrone red was clear as day. He looked like he was itching to get sent off all game. No idea what he was thinking.

Galway are playing v.good football this year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Schkite on February 23, 2020, 03:45:38 PM
Big win in Clones, solid 2nd half performance where we were fairly clinical in front of the posts.

Bit of breathing space in the league now, and the scoring difference boosted too should that come into play.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Nanderson on February 23, 2020, 03:45:53 PM
That is McShane's season over.

You could see the bone coming out through his sock there.

Think McAliskey had a similar injury with Clonoe a few years back.
Given all the press around his return you could have almost have called this happening to him at some stage this season. Nightmare. Hope he has no long term issues over it

Ya looks a bad break/dislocation.

Will definitely need surgery and can't see him being involved this year now as a result. Best wishes to him as you say.

Leaves Tyrone in a bad way going forward.

The surface in Tuam is very, very bad. The ground completely gave way on him coming down there.

Conor Lane was absolutely scandalous today, think it was after he did everything he could for Galway against Derry a few years back that Brian McIver packed management in at county level. Tyrone will rue the missed chances in the first half before the red card though.

The impact of red cards in comparison to say 15/20 years ago now is huge, the game is all based around possession and space so if you're down a man for a extended period of time then you are up against a serious task. So if referees have to make a decision like they that they have to be sure which made Lane's decision even more laughable. I'd say every game played across the weekend had a more obvious red card offence not given than that today.

The 2 red cards given to tyrone were correct and obvious decisions. I don’t think you’ll find any neutrals backing you up. The mcgeary tackle was a very dangerous one. Genuinely hope the mcshane injury isn’t as bad as it looked.

The first red card was a crazy decision. The Galway player turns into McGeary's shoulder. If you are giving red cards for that then you will have to remove the shoulder charge form the game, it is either or.
So you are saying it was the Galway players fault he got shouldered to the head?? As a tackler you have to be able to adjust your tackle depending on the situation.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: lenny on February 23, 2020, 03:46:32 PM
That is McShane's season over.

You could see the bone coming out through his sock there.

Think McAliskey had a similar injury with Clonoe a few years back.
Given all the press around his return you could have almost have called this happening to him at some stage this season. Nightmare. Hope he has no long term issues over it

Ya looks a bad break/dislocation.

Will definitely need surgery and can't see him being involved this year now as a result. Best wishes to him as you say.

Leaves Tyrone in a bad way going forward.

The surface in Tuam is very, very bad. The ground completely gave way on him coming down there.

Conor Lane was absolutely scandalous today, think it was after he did everything he could for Galway against Derry a few years back that Brian McIver packed management in at county level. Tyrone will rue the missed chances in the first half before the red card though.

The impact of red cards in comparison to say 15/20 years ago now is huge, the game is all based around possession and space so if you're down a man for a extended period of time then you are up against a serious task. So if referees have to make a decision like they that they have to be sure which made Lane's decision even more laughable. I'd say every game played across the weekend had a more obvious red card offence not given than that today.

The 2 red cards given to tyrone were correct and obvious decisions. I don’t think you’ll find any neutrals backing you up. The mcgeary tackle was a very dangerous one. Genuinely hope the mcshane injury isn’t as bad as it looked.

The first red card was a crazy decision. The Galway player turns into McGeary's shoulder. If you are giving red cards for that then you will have to remove the shoulder charge form the game, it is either or.

It has to be shoulder to shoulder. That shoulder was straight into the side of the galway players jaw. Very dangerous and he looked a bit concussed. That is exactly the type of dangerous tackle which has to be dealt with a red. As i’ve said, I can’t see many neutrals agreeing with your opinion on this one.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on February 23, 2020, 03:50:27 PM
clear red. it was slightly mistimed and very unfortunate but a red all day.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: dublin7 on February 23, 2020, 03:54:24 PM
That is McShane's season over.

You could see the bone coming out through his sock there.

Think McAliskey had a similar injury with Clonoe a few years back.
Given all the press around his return you could have almost have called this happening to him at some stage this season. Nightmare. Hope he has no long term issues over it

Ya looks a bad break/dislocation.

Will definitely need surgery and can't see him being involved this year now as a result. Best wishes to him as you say.

Leaves Tyrone in a bad way going forward.

The surface in Tuam is very, very bad. The ground completely gave way on him coming down there.

Conor Lane was absolutely scandalous today, think it was after he did everything he could for Galway against Derry a few years back that Brian McIver packed management in at county level. Tyrone will rue the missed chances in the first half before the red card though.

The impact of red cards in comparison to say 15/20 years ago now is huge, the game is all based around possession and space so if you're down a man for a extended period of time then you are up against a serious task. So if referees have to make a decision like they that they have to be sure which made Lane's decision even more laughable. I'd say every game played across the weekend had a more obvious red card offence not given than that today.

The 2 red cards given to tyrone were correct and obvious decisions. I don’t think you’ll find any neutrals backing you up. The mcgeary tackle was a very dangerous one. Genuinely hope the mcshane injury isn’t as bad as it looked.

The first red card was a crazy decision. The Galway player turns into McGeary's shoulder. If you are giving red cards for that then you will have to remove the shoulder charge form the game, it is either or.

If you're saying the galway player is somehow to blame for getting a shoulder to the jaw then yes you're right we will have to remove the shoulder charge from the game.

Thankfully the rules of the game put the responsibility for the tackle on the tackler so he got the red card the hit deserved
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Manning18 on February 23, 2020, 04:02:24 PM
That is McShane's season over.

You could see the bone coming out through his sock there.

Think McAliskey had a similar injury with Clonoe a few years back.
Given all the press around his return you could have almost have called this happening to him at some stage this season. Nightmare. Hope he has no long term issues over it

Ya looks a bad break/dislocation.

Will definitely need surgery and can't see him being involved this year now as a result. Best wishes to him as you say.

Leaves Tyrone in a bad way going forward.

The surface in Tuam is very, very bad. The ground completely gave way on him coming down there.

Conor Lane was absolutely scandalous today, think it was after he did everything he could for Galway against Derry a few years back that Brian McIver packed management in at county level. Tyrone will rue the missed chances in the first half before the red card though.

That was the qualifier game that Galway won pulling up by double scores? Yeah he made the difference that day alright
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 23, 2020, 04:30:06 PM
That is McShane's season over.

You could see the bone coming out through his sock there.

Think McAliskey had a similar injury with Clonoe a few years back.
Given all the press around his return you could have almost have called this happening to him at some stage this season. Nightmare. Hope he has no long term issues over it

Ya looks a bad break/dislocation.

Will definitely need surgery and can't see him being involved this year now as a result. Best wishes to him as you say.

Leaves Tyrone in a bad way going forward.

The surface in Tuam is very, very bad. The ground completely gave way on him coming down there.

Conor Lane was absolutely scandalous today, think it was after he did everything he could for Galway against Derry a few years back that Brian McIver packed management in at county level. Tyrone will rue the missed chances in the first half before the red card though.

That was the qualifier game that Galway won pulling up by double scores? Yeah he made the difference that day alright

It was the qualifier game where he denied Derry a stonewall penalty with 3 points between the teams in the final ten minutes and which Galway then went straight up the pitch and scored a goal.

He was definitely the difference that day.

Tyrone threw away 4 or 5 goal chances in that first half, when the red card came in the first half and us trailing by 5 it was game up.

Lane was atrocious.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 23, 2020, 04:38:04 PM
That is McShane's season over.

You could see the bone coming out through his sock there.

Think McAliskey had a similar injury with Clonoe a few years back.
Given all the press around his return you could have almost have called this happening to him at some stage this season. Nightmare. Hope he has no long term issues over it

Ya looks a bad break/dislocation.

Will definitely need surgery and can't see him being involved this year now as a result. Best wishes to him as you say.

Leaves Tyrone in a bad way going forward.

The surface in Tuam is very, very bad. The ground completely gave way on him coming down there.

Conor Lane was absolutely scandalous today, think it was after he did everything he could for Galway against Derry a few years back that Brian McIver packed management in at county level. Tyrone will rue the missed chances in the first half before the red card though.

The impact of red cards in comparison to say 15/20 years ago now is huge, the game is all based around possession and space so if you're down a man for a extended period of time then you are up against a serious task. So if referees have to make a decision like they that they have to be sure which made Lane's decision even more laughable. I'd say every game played across the weekend had a more obvious red card offence not given than that today.

The 2 red cards given to tyrone were correct and obvious decisions. I don’t think you’ll find any neutrals backing you up. The mcgeary tackle was a very dangerous one. Genuinely hope the mcshane injury isn’t as bad as it looked.

The first red card was a crazy decision. The Galway player turns into McGeary's shoulder. If you are giving red cards for that then you will have to remove the shoulder charge form the game, it is either or.
So you are saying it was the Galway players fault he got shouldered to the head?? As a tackler you have to be able to adjust your tackle depending on the situation.

I'm saying McGeary lined him up at the shoulder and the Galway player changed his movement at the last second. If red cards are going to be dished out as shoulder tackles are deemed reckless and dangerous if they are slightly mistimed as McGeary's was then the GAA have no option but to outlaw a shoulder challenge unilaterally - much in the same way as if your two feet leave the ground now in football it's a red card, regardless of whether you win the ball or not.

The GAA have not outlawed shoulder challenges so there is going to be instances where these challenges are slightly late and players get caught such as the Galway player did. It was a ridiculous red card. You'd have seen more mistimed shoulders up and down the country that would not have even got a yellow card.

Until such time as the GAA outlaw shoulder challenges then you can't be giving red cards for challenges like McGearys which are a split second late or mistimed.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2020, 04:57:55 PM
Where was the elbow though?

Once again you have lost the run of yourself with regard to referees because a decision went against Tyrone.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 23, 2020, 05:07:07 PM
Where was the elbow though?

Once again you have lost the run of yourself with regard to referees because a decision went against Tyrone.

Right by his side where it belonged.

https://twitter.com/KevRedCon/status/1231593026738196481?s=19
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2020, 05:17:03 PM
That’s a still.

Look I am not 100% sold it’s a red but a lot of times it would be given. It wasn’t much different to Hogan in the all Ireland hurling final.

If you think that decision was ludicrous then I suggest your objectivity could be called into question. It may have been debatable but it was not ludicrous. Imo many refs would have given that.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 23, 2020, 05:32:38 PM
I thought McGeary's was worth a yellow, but that's a view from the armchair. Very tough on McShane, it looked to be an ugly break.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 23, 2020, 05:43:58 PM
That’s a still.

Look I am not 100% sold it’s a red but a lot of times it would be given. It wasn’t much different to Hogan in the all Ireland hurling final.

If you think that decision was ludicrous then I suggest your objectivity could be called into question. It may have been debatable but it was not ludicrous. Imo many refs would have given that.

Can you name me an occasion when a player has been sent for a mistimed shoulder recently?

Can't really think of one myself. You see worse challenges go unpunished in every game across the country.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 23, 2020, 05:47:06 PM
That’s a still.

Look I am not 100% sold it’s a red but a lot of times it would be given. It wasn’t much different to Hogan in the all Ireland hurling final.

If you think that decision was ludicrous then I suggest your objectivity could be called into question. It may have been debatable but it was not ludicrous. Imo many refs would have given that.

I generally am as fair as they come. If it was the other way round I would have expected Galway to get a yellow for it. But there is alot of people talking about this mysterious elbow. The still is at the moment of contact and no elbow was raised is the point I am making.

Anyway still think tyrone would have lost without the red cards. Galway were just too good on the day. That pitch needs a make over though looked very unsafe. Seen alot of players falling over which, anyone of them could break an ankle.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 23, 2020, 05:51:35 PM
On the McShane injury, hopefully it's not too bad.

Just seen Andre Gomes warming up there for Everton and he suffered a truly horrific injury back in November so hopefully the recovery time for McShane might not be too bad.

Hard to see him getting back up to Championship pace though by that time.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2020, 06:11:19 PM
That’s a still.

Look I am not 100% sold it’s a red but a lot of times it would be given. It wasn’t much different to Hogan in the all Ireland hurling final.

If you think that decision was ludicrous then I suggest your objectivity could be called into question. It may have been debatable but it was not ludicrous. Imo many refs would have given that.

Can you name me an occasion when a player has been sent for a mistimed shoulder recently?

Can't really think of one myself. You see worse challenges go unpunished in every game across the country.

Richie hogan in ai hurling final... though there may have been more elbow.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2020, 06:13:07 PM
That’s a still.

Look I am not 100% sold it’s a red but a lot of times it would be given. It wasn’t much different to Hogan in the all Ireland hurling final.

If you think that decision was ludicrous then I suggest your objectivity could be called into question. It may have been debatable but it was not ludicrous. Imo many refs would have given that.

I generally am as fair as they come. If it was the other way round I would have expected Galway to get a yellow for it. But there is alot of people talking about this mysterious elbow. The still is at the moment of contact and no elbow was raised is the point I am making.

Anyway still think tyrone would have lost without the red cards. Galway were just too good on the day. That pitch needs a make over though looked very unsafe. Seen alot of players falling over which, anyone of them could break an ankle.

The still isn’t at the point of contact. The Galway boy’s head is jarred back from the contact so it is definitely after the contact.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 23, 2020, 06:23:54 PM
That’s a still.

Look I am not 100% sold it’s a red but a lot of times it would be given. It wasn’t much different to Hogan in the all Ireland hurling final.

If you think that decision was ludicrous then I suggest your objectivity could be called into question. It may have been debatable but it was not ludicrous. Imo many refs would have given that.

I generally am as fair as they come. If it was the other way round I would have expected Galway to get a yellow for it. But there is alot of people talking about this mysterious elbow. The still is at the moment of contact and no elbow was raised is the point I am making.

Anyway still think tyrone would have lost without the red cards. Galway were just too good on the day. That pitch needs a make over though looked very unsafe. Seen alot of players falling over which, anyone of them could break an ankle.

The still isn’t at the point of contact. The Galway boy’s head is jarred back from the contact so it is definitely after the contact.

https://twitter.com/KevRedCon/status/1231593026738196481?s=19

There's the link to the clip. At no point before or during contact was the elbow raised.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 23, 2020, 06:24:38 PM
That’s a still.

Look I am not 100% sold it’s a red but a lot of times it would be given. It wasn’t much different to Hogan in the all Ireland hurling final.

If you think that decision was ludicrous then I suggest your objectivity could be called into question. It may have been debatable but it was not ludicrous. Imo many refs would have given that.

Can you name me an occasion when a player has been sent for a mistimed shoulder recently?

Can't really think of one myself. You see worse challenges go unpunished in every game across the country.

Richie hogan in ai hurling final... though there may have been more elbow.

Incorrect, Richie Hogan was sent off for an elbow to the head - not a shoulder.

Michael Murphy could have been sent off in the opening minutes last night after he left his elbow.

Leaving your elbow out is not a shoulder.  McGeary has his elbow tucked in by his ribcage and it is not in play.

You are clearly imagining an eblow at play here, it's nowhere at all in any replay or still shot.

It's a ridiculous and unprecedented red card.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 23, 2020, 06:32:24 PM
Thank God the Tyrone sending off is the topic of the day because Mayo were awful, bloody awful today. I haven't seen a performance that bad in a long while. I expected us to lose. But to be outscored by 2-11 to 0-5 in the second half, well you know the rest. I hope James Horan learns at least this ONE THING: don't start Jordan Flynn against Kerry, Galway or Tyrone. Nothing really against him, but he literally cannot make any physical contact with any opposition player or there'll be some kind of card handed out. Unfortunately our lack of underage success is coming home to roost.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tonto1888 on February 23, 2020, 06:40:17 PM
That’s a still.

Look I am not 100% sold it’s a red but a lot of times it would be given. It wasn’t much different to Hogan in the all Ireland hurling final.

If you think that decision was ludicrous then I suggest your objectivity could be called into question. It may have been debatable but it was not ludicrous. Imo many refs would have given that.

Can you name me an occasion when a player has been sent for a mistimed shoulder recently?

Can't really think of one myself. You see worse challenges go unpunished in every game across the country.

Richie hogan in ai hurling final... though there may have been more elbow.

Incorrect, Richie Hogan was sent off for an elbow to the head - not a shoulder.

Michael Murphy could have been sent off in the opening minutes last night after he left his elbow.

Leaving your elbow out is not a shoulder.  McGeary has his elbow tucked in by his ribcage and it is not in play.

You are clearly imagining an eblow at play here, it's nowhere at all in any replay or still shot.

It's a ridiculous and unprecedented red card.

Agree about Murphy. He should have seen red. Mooney got a red against us in the championship last year for a similar tackle. At the time I thought he tried to do our player and was livid. However Nugent changed direction very fast and Mooney caught him on the head with the shoulder. Still the right decision in my eyes
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2020, 06:47:02 PM
That’s a still.

Look I am not 100% sold it’s a red but a lot of times it would be given. It wasn’t much different to Hogan in the all Ireland hurling final.

If you think that decision was ludicrous then I suggest your objectivity could be called into question. It may have been debatable but it was not ludicrous. Imo many refs would have given that.

Can you name me an occasion when a player has been sent for a mistimed shoulder recently?

Can't really think of one myself. You see worse challenges go unpunished in every game across the country.

Richie hogan in ai hurling final... though there may have been more elbow.

Incorrect, Richie Hogan was sent off for an elbow to the head - not a shoulder.

Michael Murphy could have been sent off in the opening minutes last night after he left his elbow.

Leaving your elbow out is not a shoulder.  McGeary has his elbow tucked in by his ribcage and it is not in play.

You are clearly imagining an eblow at play here, it's nowhere at all in any replay or still shot.

It's a ridiculous and unprecedented red card.

It is ridiculous that you think it is a ridiculous red card. Debatable yes ridiculous no.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Throw ball on February 23, 2020, 06:53:38 PM
As I was in Mullingar today I havent seen McGeary red. I seem to remember though that for health and safety reasons - and to avoid high tackles - it was decided that the tackler was responsible for the safety of the person tackled. If the referee thinks the impact is dangerous it is an automatic red even if the contact is accidental.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Nanderson on February 23, 2020, 07:03:34 PM
That’s a still.

Look I am not 100% sold it’s a red but a lot of times it would be given. It wasn’t much different to Hogan in the all Ireland hurling final.

If you think that decision was ludicrous then I suggest your objectivity could be called into question. It may have been debatable but it was not ludicrous. Imo many refs would have given that.

Can you name me an occasion when a player has been sent for a mistimed shoulder recently?

Can't really think of one myself. You see worse challenges go unpunished in every game across the country.
Mooney vs Armagh in championship last year. Exact same challenge, shouldered into the head of the player turning around. Same punishment. Protect the players. Now everyone move on. McGeary didn't do as much yapping as a lot of people on here have so he has accepted his punishment
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: twohands!!! on February 23, 2020, 07:34:58 PM
The following is taken from page 42 of the ref's handbook.

Quote
SANCTIONS RELATING TO ILLEGAL CHARGE/COLLISION DETERMINED BY THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA

• If contact is made to an opponent’s head
• If opponent has no opportunity to protect himself
• If contact/impact is excessive or causes injury
• If the elbow/forearm/hurley is part of the contact
• If the player making contact had a realistic alternative by way of challenging opponent
• The direction and distance covered by the player who makes contact

I would say that the key factor was the fact that the opponent has no opportunity to protect himself and was pretty much blindsided by McGeary.

I think McGeary wasn't helped by the fact that his elbow was some bit up prior to contact and popped up a bit when the contact was made, even though from what I saw watching the game back it didn't make any contact at all.  It probably falls into the categpry of slightly harsh, but given McGeary opted to play the man as opposed to the ball, I wouldn't have huge amounts of sympathy for him.

The bit about "contact/impact being excessive" is a terrible bit of wording on a rule.
Can anyone explain how one ref is mean to interpret this consistently, never mind different refs ?

On a related note, I'd love to see the stats on how effective the shoulder as a skill is in game - in a serious amount of cases it seems to end up being a free to the player in possession. 
Some players seem to love attempting tackles but all too often I think players would be far likelier to win the turn-over if they focused on the ball.
If McGeary had tackled the ball in this situation, I think there is strong odds he would have dispossed the Galway player, given the Galway player has the ball in a somewhat exposed position and is only holding it with one hand and McGeary is pretty much blindsiding him.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 23, 2020, 07:50:05 PM
The following is taken from page 42 of the ref's handbook.

Quote
SANCTIONS RELATING TO ILLEGAL CHARGE/COLLISION DETERMINED BY THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA

• If contact is made to an opponent’s head
• If opponent has no opportunity to protect himself
• If contact/impact is excessive or causes injury
• If the elbow/forearm/hurley is part of the contact
• If the player making contact had a realistic alternative by way of challenging opponent
• The direction and distance covered by the player who makes contact

I would say that the key factor was the fact that the opponent has no opportunity to protect himself and was pretty much blindsided by McGeary.

I think McGeary wasn't helped by the fact that his elbow was some bit up prior to contact and popped up a bit when the contact was made, even though from what I saw watching the game back it didn't make any contact at all.  It probably falls into the categpry of slightly harsh, but given McGeary opted to play the man as opposed to the ball, I wouldn't have huge amounts of sympathy for him.

The bit about "contact/impact being excessive" is a terrible bit of wording on a rule.
Can anyone explain how one ref is mean to interpret this consistently, never mind different refs ?

On a related note, I'd love to see the stats on how effective the shoulder as a skill is in game - in a serious amount of cases it seems to end up being a free to the player in possession. 
Some players seem to love attempting tackles but all too often I think players would be far likelier to win the turn-over if they focused on the ball.
If McGeary had tackled the ball in this situation, I think there is strong odds he would have dispossed the Galway player, given the Galway player has the ball in a somewhat exposed position and is only holding it with one hand and McGeary is pretty much blindsiding him.

He wasn't blindsided.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Manning18 on February 23, 2020, 07:50:29 PM
That is McShane's season over.

You could see the bone coming out through his sock there.

Think McAliskey had a similar injury with Clonoe a few years back.
Given all the press around his return you could have almost have called this happening to him at some stage this season. Nightmare. Hope he has no long term issues over it

Ya looks a bad break/dislocation.

Will definitely need surgery and can't see him being involved this year now as a result. Best wishes to him as you say.

Leaves Tyrone in a bad way going forward.

The surface in Tuam is very, very bad. The ground completely gave way on him coming down there.

Conor Lane was absolutely scandalous today, think it was after he did everything he could for Galway against Derry a few years back that Brian McIver packed management in at county level. Tyrone will rue the missed chances in the first half before the red card though.

That was the qualifier game that Galway won pulling up by double scores? Yeah he made the difference that day alright

It was the qualifier game where he denied Derry a stonewall penalty with 3 points between the teams in the final ten minutes and which Galway then went straight up the pitch and scored a goal.

He was definitely the difference that day.

Tyrone threw away 4 or 5 goal chances in that first half, when the red card came in the first half and us trailing by 5 it was game up.

Lane was atrocious.

I can understand a complain about a tight call in a close game. Not in absolute hammerings however. I personally thought the red card call today was a bit harsh, but they tend to be given when you go in with that sort of force these days. We all like the fair hard hit but you get it an inch wrong and you're in trouble. Didn't make a jot of difference to the result though. Galway were 5 up at the time. They'd have won that game today with 12 men
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: moysider on February 23, 2020, 08:08:10 PM
Thank God the Tyrone sending off is the topic of the day because Mayo were awful, bloody awful today. I haven't seen a performance that bad in a long while. I expected us to lose. But to be outscored by 2-11 to 0-5 in the second half, well you know the rest. I hope James Horan learns at least this ONE THING: don't start Jordan Flynn against Kerry, Galway or Tyrone. Nothing really against him, but he literally cannot make any physical contact with any opposition player or there'll be some kind of card handed out. Unfortunately our lack of underage success is coming home to roost.

Hmmm. There was only 2 points in it before sending off. It could have been level; Diarmuid had recently missed a very kickable free and Stephen Coen's attempt from a mark was just a ridiculous attempt by anybody that plays football.
Not sure how much lack of underage success is affecting us. We,ve won a minor and under 21 recently enough anyway. Oisín Mullin can play. If a national U20 team was picked Mullin and Towey would be a good shout to be on it. Swanee is coming along nicely, so too Ryan O Donoghue. That's not so bad. Trouble is though Horan seems to want to persist with lads that repeatedly come up a bit shy.
Need to get a bit of pace into 6 position.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 23, 2020, 08:14:13 PM
Thank God the Tyrone sending off is the topic of the day because Mayo were awful, bloody awful today. I haven't seen a performance that bad in a long while. I expected us to lose. But to be outscored by 2-11 to 0-5 in the second half, well you know the rest. I hope James Horan learns at least this ONE THING: don't start Jordan Flynn against Kerry, Galway or Tyrone. Nothing really against him, but he literally cannot make any physical contact with any opposition player or there'll be some kind of card handed out. Unfortunately our lack of underage success is coming home to roost.
It didn’t look a strong Mayo team and I guessed they would run out of steam after their first half strenuos efforts at pressing Monaghan in their own half. It was a soft red card card but Monaghan scored an immediate goal to go 5 points up,  the game was over then for Mayo, the end points tally academic. The ref was annoying in constantly disturbing the flow of the game. I thoght that pony tailed one for Mayo was fortunate not to get a straight red card for the deliberate elbow tackle, it was funny to hear the crowd give a collective gasp at the imact.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 23, 2020, 08:24:06 PM
That Galway result the most eye catching one of the weekend. No harm to see Tyrone hammered.

Banty in danger of burning Monaghan out before the summer?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: J70 on February 23, 2020, 08:32:08 PM
Tyrone should have just shut up shop once they went seven or eight points and two men down. They were never getting back into that game. Instead, they kept getting caught up the field with Galway players left completely unmarked out on the wing to gather a long pass and stroll through to set up easy points.

Unless scoring difference doesn't matter this year?

Walsh is some player. Don't think I can remember a man hitting long distance (or any) frees off the ground with either foot, depending on the side.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Armagh Girl on February 23, 2020, 08:39:37 PM
Awful Injury to McShane....hope he recovers soon.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on February 23, 2020, 08:47:21 PM
I thought we were very poor against Meath today.

Thoughts.

1. We have huge problems with kick outs. Brian Kelly is very laboured and slow and kicks it aimlessly into midfield after putting himself under pressure.

2. Tommy Walsh is an animal. He turned the game. That squat of the Meath player was right in front of me

3. We are missing Crowley. We have no plug at teams running at us.

4. Clifford was electric in the first half. Very quiet in the second half.

Overall we looked tired. They look to be carrying weight all over the team. Probably a lot of gym work.

A win is a win but we were patchy
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: rodney trotter on February 23, 2020, 09:03:48 PM
Tim O Leary calling for Horam out on Twitter. He said he was the best man for the job a few days ago.
He's seems an eejit, with money to burn.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on February 23, 2020, 09:20:29 PM
Tim O Leary calling for Horam out on Twitter. He said he was the best man for the job a few days ago.
He's seems an eejit, with money to burn.

I believe he was at rugby. Did he drop his trousers when Sexton was taking his penalties?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on February 23, 2020, 09:24:58 PM
Galway playing some great football. Hope they keep playing like this in c’ship too. McCurry is playing some stuff from Tyrone too. Some very clever passing from him.

Still tying to get my head around how that was a straight red

Made aggressive contact with Galway man's jaw, that's why. Right call in my opinion.
😂😂😂 Aggressive contact. Is there a non aggressive contact. Was clear as day he was going for a shoulder to shoulder but the Galway lad turned at the last second. Was no where near his jaw.

If you honestly think that was red you should stick to non contact sports in all seriousness

You must be hard bartard is saying not a red. Clearly caught him in jaw. Tyrone playing the victim as usual.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 23, 2020, 09:31:25 PM
Galway playing some great football. Hope they keep playing like this in c’ship too. McCurry is playing some stuff from Tyrone too. Some very clever passing from him.

Still tying to get my head around how that was a straight red

Made aggressive contact with Galway man's jaw, that's why. Right call in my opinion.
😂😂😂 Aggressive contact. Is there a non aggressive contact. Was clear as day he was going for a shoulder to shoulder but the Galway lad turned at the last second. Was no where near his jaw.

If you honestly think that was red you should stick to non contact sports in all seriousness

You must be hard bartard is saying not a red. Clearly caught him in jaw. Tyrone playing the victim as usual.
Not at all but it's a contact sport. He was a second too late. Check out the 7 rules for red card offences and let me know which one it falls under

1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
4. Spitting at an opponent.
5. Contributing to a melee.
6. Stamping.
7. Inflicting injury recklessly.
8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on February 23, 2020, 09:33:10 PM
Donegal better team in the first half. If I was a Donegal fan I'd be worried about their players obsession with their hair. The amount of times a donegal player gets tackled and goes down grabbing his head/hair
Johnny Small seems to be developing a bit of a habit also for holding his hair. The clash with Ryan McHugh  should have been a black card for Small who clearly blocked the follow on run by McHugh. But Small cleverly deceived Deegan by falling down holding his head. The medical team were of course required to complete the deception

To be fair a couple mayo lads have form for this as well. Young Connors and Aidan Shea at it today. They weren't shy in dishing it too and both lucky to finish the game.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: moysider on February 23, 2020, 09:34:33 PM
3 and 7
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2020, 09:42:36 PM
Galway playing some great football. Hope they keep playing like this in c’ship too. McCurry is playing some stuff from Tyrone too. Some very clever passing from him.

Still tying to get my head around how that was a straight red

Made aggressive contact with Galway man's jaw, that's why. Right call in my opinion.
😂😂😂 Aggressive contact. Is there a non aggressive contact. Was clear as day he was going for a shoulder to shoulder but the Galway lad turned at the last second. Was no where near his jaw.

If you honestly think that was red you should stick to non contact sports in all seriousness

You must be hard bartard is saying not a red. Clearly caught him in jaw. Tyrone playing the victim as usual.
Not at all but it's a contact sport. He was a second too late. Check out the 7 rules for red card offences and let me know which one it falls under

1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
4. Spitting at an opponent.
5. Contributing to a melee.
6. Stamping.
7. Inflicting injury recklessly.
8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.

Debatably 7. Is this groundhog day ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 23, 2020, 09:44:07 PM
Tim O Leary calling for Horam out on Twitter. He said he was the best man for the job a few days ago.
He's seems an eejit, with money to burn.

He's a loose cannon. Probably will cause more hassle later on this year too.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tyrone08 on February 23, 2020, 09:44:31 PM
Galway playing some great football. Hope they keep playing like this in c’ship too. McCurry is playing some stuff from Tyrone too. Some very clever passing from him.

Still tying to get my head around how that was a straight red

Made aggressive contact with Galway man's jaw, that's why. Right call in my opinion.
😂😂😂 Aggressive contact. Is there a non aggressive contact. Was clear as day he was going for a shoulder to shoulder but the Galway lad turned at the last second. Was no where near his jaw.

If you honestly think that was red you should stick to non contact sports in all seriousness

You must be hard bartard is saying not a red. Clearly caught him in jaw. Tyrone playing the victim as usual.
Not at all but it's a contact sport. He was a second too late. Check out the 7 rules for red card offences and let me know which one it falls under

1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
4. Spitting at an opponent.
5. Contributing to a melee.
6. Stamping.
7. Inflicting injury recklessly.
8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.

Debatably 7. Is this groundhog day ;D

LOL I thought a red card was supposed to be for a clear and obvious offence.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: imtommygunn on February 23, 2020, 09:48:36 PM
That’s var you’re thinking of ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: MayoBuck on February 23, 2020, 09:54:35 PM
That game unravelled pretty quickly for us today.  :-\

Thought we looked good going forward in the 1st half with Darren Coen acting as a good target. Monaghan cut us open a few times however so the goal was coming. Jordan Flynn probably needs to sit out next week at least, his card is marked at this stage. The goal straight after the red card finished the game so not much else to say.

Relegation looms large for us now. With our terrible score difference we'll go down if level on points with Donegal. Really need Dublin and Donegal to beat Tyrone to set up a winner takes all game on the last weekend.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: moysider on February 23, 2020, 10:07:25 PM
Galway playing some great football. Hope they keep playing like this in c’ship too. McCurry is playing some stuff from Tyrone too. Some very clever passing from him.

Still tying to get my head around how that was a straight red

Made aggressive contact with Galway man's jaw, that's why. Right call in my opinion.
😂😂😂 Aggressive contact. Is there a non aggressive contact. Was clear as day he was going for a shoulder to shoulder but the Galway lad turned at the last second. Was no where near his jaw.

If you honestly think that was red you should stick to non contact sports in all seriousness

You must be hard bartard is saying not a red. Clearly caught him in jaw. Tyrone playing the victim as usual.
Not at all but it's a contact sport. He was a second too late. Check out the 7 rules for red card offences and let me know which one it falls under

1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
4. Spitting at an opponent.
5. Contributing to a melee.
6. Stamping.
7. Inflicting injury recklessly.
8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.

Debatably 7. Is this groundhog day ;D

3 as well obviously.
Yeah, groundhog day for sure.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Dubhaltach on February 23, 2020, 10:09:04 PM
Thank God the Tyrone sending off is the topic of the day because Mayo were awful, bloody awful today. I haven't seen a performance that bad in a long while. I expected us to lose. But to be outscored by 2-11 to 0-5 in the second half, well you know the rest. I hope James Horan learns at least this ONE THING: don't start Jordan Flynn against Kerry, Galway or Tyrone. Nothing really against him, but he literally cannot make any physical contact with any opposition player or there'll be some kind of card handed out. Unfortunately our lack of underage success is coming home to roost.

While the collapse in the final quarter was disappointing, you have to bear in mind the number of probable starters we were missing today, these include Brendan Harrison, Chris Barrett, Matthew Ruane, Cillian O Connor, Fionn McDonagh, Jason Doherty and James Carr. No other division one team has an injury list like this. We'll be a totally different team come championship and all analysis at the moment has to take account of this
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: moysider on February 23, 2020, 10:17:45 PM
Thank God the Tyrone sending off is the topic of the day because Mayo were awful, bloody awful today. I haven't seen a performance that bad in a long while. I expected us to lose. But to be outscored by 2-11 to 0-5 in the second half, well you know the rest. I hope James Horan learns at least this ONE THING: don't start Jordan Flynn against Kerry, Galway or Tyrone. Nothing really against him, but he literally cannot make any physical contact with any opposition player or there'll be some kind of card handed out. Unfortunately our lack of underage success is coming home to roost.

While the collapse in the final quarter was disappointing, you have to bear in mind the number of probable starters we were missing today, these include Brendan Harrison, Chris Barrett, Matthew Ruane, Cillian O Connor, Fionn McDonagh, Jason Doherty and James Carr. No other division one team has an injury list like this at the moment. We'll be a totally different team come championship and all analysis at the moment has to take account of this

The collapse was last 10 minutes rather than last quarter. That was down to a very soft sending off to be fair as well. Not sure many of those you mention change us big time either.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: hardstation on February 23, 2020, 10:19:08 PM
These boys banging on about “The ref should know Murphy wouldn’t want to get involved in that so common sense should prevail.”

The ref can only act on what has been seen by him or reported by his officials, not on a scenario he makes up in his own head. I can’t understand how they can suggest that.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tonto1888 on February 23, 2020, 10:30:21 PM
That was a red card alright. I don’t think the Tyrone lad meant to catch the Galway fella but he did. Very similar to Mooneys red against us last year
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 23, 2020, 11:37:55 PM
Thank God the Tyrone sending off is the topic of the day because Mayo were awful, bloody awful today. I haven't seen a performance that bad in a long while. I expected us to lose. But to be outscored by 2-11 to 0-5 in the second half, well you know the rest. I hope James Horan learns at least this ONE THING: don't start Jordan Flynn against Kerry, Galway or Tyrone. Nothing really against him, but he literally cannot make any physical contact with any opposition player or there'll be some kind of card handed out. Unfortunately our lack of underage success is coming home to roost.

While the collapse in the final quarter was disappointing, you have to bear in mind the number of probable starters we were missing today, these include Brendan Harrison, Chris Barrett, Matthew Ruane, Cillian O Connor, Fionn McDonagh, Jason Doherty and James Carr. No other division one team has an injury list like this. We'll be a totally different team come championship and all analysis at the moment has to take account of this

Meath have as many missing i believe and they have less strength in depth than Mayo.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: moysider on February 23, 2020, 11:49:46 PM
These boys banging on about “The ref should know Murphy wouldn’t want to get involved in that so common sense should prevail.”

The ref can only act on what has been seen by him or reported by his officials, not on a scenario he makes up in his own head. I can’t understand how they can suggest that.

Murphy could have gone earlier with a straight red.
The second yellow was a joke though. It's become a no brainer now to just get in a tussle with a player that's already yellowed and even though he does not react in a violent way he will get sent off.
In a one point game getting Murphy off the field was .......
Good shout that Murphy on the field could have got a valuable point from the game.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Never beat the deeler on February 24, 2020, 07:10:40 AM


To be fair a couple mayo lads have form for this as well. Young Connors and Aidan Shea at it today. They weren't shy in dishing it too and both lucky to finish the game.
Shaun Patton
Brendan Harrison
Ronan McNamee
Tom Sullivan
Gavin Crowley
Colm Boyle
Ryan McHugh
David Moran
Aidan O'Shea
Mattie Donnelly
Seanie Shea
Jamie Brennan
Cillian Connors
Cathal McShane
David Clifford

Is this actually a wind up? Cillian Connors? i persume you mean Cillian O Connor, Not a chance does he deserve an All Star on this years form he has only played a hand full of games. If he has an exceptional semi final and Final yeah maybe but not within an asses roar at the minute.
Brendan Harrison got roasted in a good few games in this years championship. Against both Roscommon and Kerry he was taken to the cleaners.

Connors have been most consistent forward in last month. Harrison want too bad against Kerry.



I hope wont see Cillian Connors at this Sunday Wont have Dublin Joe or Mossy Deegan to back him.



Have you a horn for the dubs?  :)  Every thread is Dublin this. It not healthy obbsessing.  Mayo have a lot of young players coming through.  Only for unlucky misses by Cillian Connors and red mist by Donal Vaughan mayo would be champions. Your day will come soon.


A thread about Cillian Connors turns into Dublin again.  Do you think about kerry and the dubs more than your own family? 😥😥😥😥😥

You keep saying that you have one username, it's genuinely pathetic that you would spend so much time on here thinking its hilarious that you can wind people up.

As ideas go I think thats a good one. Why the sarcasm Farren. Makes you feel good does it?

Farrandeelin is 100% correct.
That tool bag has six or seven alias’s and is absolutely making a joke of the website.

Less of the bullying please.  Typical man. Are females not allowed have opinions or is your ego getting in the way? I have one username. We don't question your trolling "referees audition  for finals" my grandson is a referee and we have clowns like  you question referee integrity? ??? If you don't want post on subject please f**k off. Mayo posters love to troll on this board and anyone put something controversial they resort to bullying like your yourself Joe so take a long in the mirror
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Taylor on February 24, 2020, 07:44:54 AM
McGeary one was a red card all day long - cant connect with a mans head especially at that sort of speed.

McShane is a serious loss - while the Galway lads gave him a hard time yesterday (fairly most of the time I might add) it would be a different story with the dry sod.
Hopefully all goes well and he gets back later in the season.

PJ has Galway playing some lovely football - long may it continue.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 24, 2020, 08:58:29 AM
McGeary one was a red card all day long - cant connect with a mans head especially at that sort of speed.

McShane is a serious loss - while the Galway lads gave him a hard time yesterday (fairly most of the time I might add) it would be a different story with the dry sod.
Hopefully all goes well and he gets back later in the season.

PJ has Galway playing some lovely football - long may it continue.

If you are giving a red card for that then you have to outlaw the shoulder challenge as those incidents happen up and down the country on a regular basis. I've seen far worse and more cynical illegal shoulder tackles go unpunished week in week out.

It was no worse than Munroe's in the Ulster final a few years back that wasn't even called for a free or Kevin McManamon against Kerry.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: highorlow on February 24, 2020, 09:25:32 AM
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If you are giving a red card for that then you have to outlaw the shoulder challenge

It’s supposed to be shoulder to shoulder. Once it’s executed correctly it’s one of the most pleasurable tackles in the Game.

You correct though, it’s a fine line for the tackler. Love watching this one!


https://youtu.be/MQZemthWLLA
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: trueblue1234 on February 24, 2020, 09:30:13 AM
Red card or not, it was one decision and not worth the time discussing it in so much detail as the reality was we were getting a trimming in that game regardless in my eyes. We were so poor. I lost count of the number of misplaced side wards passes that were cut out by a Galway player. We were so far off the pace it was unbelievable.
So may players were poor and will know they need to step up and quickly. Mickey got some of the match ups badly wrong as well.

As for McShane, absolute nightmare for him. But will take the focus of him now and Mickey needs to work out a plan B quickly.

Dublin next week in Omagh. If ever there was a game made for giving the team a lift it's that one. But another hammering and the knives will be out very quickly. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 24, 2020, 09:35:22 AM
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If you are giving a red card for that then you have to outlaw the shoulder challenge

It’s supposed to be shoulder to shoulder. Once it’s executed correctly it’s one of the most pleasurable tackles in the Game.

You correct though, it’s a fine line for the tackler. Love watching this one!


https://youtu.be/MQZemthWLLA

It is and I have no qualms with that but if you are giving red cards for lads being a split second late with a shoulder tackle then they should not be allowed.

In football nowadays if your two feet leave the ground in a tackle, it's red card irrespective of whether the ball is played or not. If they are going to justify the decision to send McGeary off like that then they can't defend the use of a shoulder challenge.

It's a yellow card at most, it's fair attempt to hit him a shoulder, the Galway player changes direction at the last second and gets caught. I've heard people going on about elbows being used but they have some imaginations to see an elbow there.

There has to be leeway that sometimes players are going to be a split second late, particularly with the pace of the game now.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on February 24, 2020, 09:47:50 AM
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If you are giving a red card for that then you have to outlaw the shoulder challenge

It’s supposed to be shoulder to shoulder. Once it’s executed correctly it’s one of the most pleasurable tackles in the Game.

You correct though, it’s a fine line for the tackler. Love watching this one!


https://youtu.be/MQZemthWLLA

It is and I have no qualms with that but if you are giving red cards for lads being a split second late with a shoulder tackle then they should not be allowed.

In football nowadays if your two feet leave the ground in a tackle, it's red card irrespective of whether the ball is played or not. If they are going to justify the decision to send McGeary off like that then they can't defend the use of a shoulder challenge.

It's a yellow card at most, it's fair attempt to hit him a shoulder, the Galway player changes direction at the last second and gets caught. I've heard people going on about elbows being used but they have some imaginations to see an elbow there.

There has to be leeway that sometimes players are going to be a split second late, particularly with the pace of the game now.
No in fairness to McGeary there was no raised elbow there (from my vantage point on the sideline I had thought he caught him with the elbow but replays showed this was not the case).
He was unlucky - a second earlier and there is no head contact.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 24, 2020, 09:57:46 AM
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If you are giving a red card for that then you have to outlaw the shoulder challenge

It’s supposed to be shoulder to shoulder. Once it’s executed correctly it’s one of the most pleasurable tackles in the Game.

You correct though, it’s a fine line for the tackler. Love watching this one!


https://youtu.be/MQZemthWLLA

It is and I have no qualms with that but if you are giving red cards for lads being a split second late with a shoulder tackle then they should not be allowed.

In football nowadays if your two feet leave the ground in a tackle, it's red card irrespective of whether the ball is played or not. If they are going to justify the decision to send McGeary off like that then they can't defend the use of a shoulder challenge.

It's a yellow card at most, it's fair attempt to hit him a shoulder, the Galway player changes direction at the last second and gets caught. I've heard people going on about elbows being used but they have some imaginations to see an elbow there.

There has to be leeway that sometimes players are going to be a split second late, particularly with the pace of the game now.
No in fairness to McGeary there was no raised elbow there (from my vantage point on the sideline I had thought he caught him with the elbow but replays showed this was not the case).
He was unlucky - a second earlier and there is no head contact.

It comes down to whether what McGeary did was either reckless or dangerous.

It was genuine attempt to hit a legitimate shoulder, his stance in executing the shoulder was textbook for a legitimate shoulder challenge but his timing was a split second out.

A genuine attempt to execute the shoulder charge but the timing was out by a fraction, a yellow card would have sufficed. If referees are deeming legitimate tackles that could be out by a fraction as reckless and dangerous then those tackles should be outlawed completely from the game, otherwise policing it becomes an absolute minefield.

It's frustrating as the impact red cards have in the game today is monumental. I think we were 5 points down at that time but we were still well in the game, we had carved Galway open for at least three goal chances by then and hit the post 4 times.

Referees need to be absolutely certain when issuing a red card, there's no way Lane could have been.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on February 24, 2020, 10:02:26 AM

Team        P W D L +/- Pts.
Galway      4 3 0 1 20 6
Dublin       4 2 2 0 7 6
Monaghan 4 2 1 1 12 5
Kerry        4 2 1 1 3 5
Tyrone      4 2 0 2 -17 4
Donegal    4 1 1 2 8 3
Mayo        4 1 1 2 -13 3
Meath       4 0 0 4 -20 0

PP odds to win the league:

Dublin 8/11
Kerry & Galway 4/1
Monaghan 8/1
Tyrone 25/1
Mayo 50/1
Donegal 66/1

To be relegated:

Meath 1/500
Mayo 11/8
Donegal 6/4
Tyrone 3/1
Monaghan 12/1
Kerry 14/1

Meath look like they're gone now with Galway, Dublin & Monaghan to play.

Fixtures for the other three likely to be scrapping it out at the bottom (although if Kerry lose in Castlebar next weekend, they could be dragged into it):
Mayo: Kerry (H), Galway (A) & Tyrone (H)
Donegal: Monaghan (H), Tyrone (H) & Kerry (A)
Tyrone: Dublin (H), Donegal (A) & Mayo (A)

Those last two games for Tyrone against Donegal & Mayo look like they'll be the key games in deciding who gets relegated. That hammering yesterday means we're probably screwed if it comes down to points difference between ourselves and Donegal.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: lenny on February 24, 2020, 10:16:24 AM
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If you are giving a red card for that then you have to outlaw the shoulder challenge

It’s supposed to be shoulder to shoulder. Once it’s executed correctly it’s one of the most pleasurable tackles in the Game.

You correct though, it’s a fine line for the tackler. Love watching this one!


https://youtu.be/MQZemthWLLA

It is and I have no qualms with that but if you are giving red cards for lads being a split second late with a shoulder tackle then they should not be allowed.

In football nowadays if your two feet leave the ground in a tackle, it's red card irrespective of whether the ball is played or not. If they are going to justify the decision to send McGeary off like that then they can't defend the use of a shoulder challenge.

It's a yellow card at most, it's fair attempt to hit him a shoulder, the Galway player changes direction at the last second and gets caught. I've heard people going on about elbows being used but they have some imaginations to see an elbow there.

There has to be leeway that sometimes players are going to be a split second late, particularly with the pace of the game now.
No in fairness to McGeary there was no raised elbow there (from my vantage point on the sideline I had thought he caught him with the elbow but replays showed this was not the case).
He was unlucky - a second earlier and there is no head contact.

It comes down to whether what McGeary did was either reckless or dangerous.

It was genuine attempt to hit a legitimate shoulder, his stance in executing the shoulder was textbook for a legitimate shoulder challenge but his timing was a split second out.

A genuine attempt to execute the shoulder charge but the timing was out by a fraction, a yellow card would have sufficed. If referees are deeming legitimate tackles that could be out by a fraction as reckless and dangerous then those tackles should be outlawed completely from the game, otherwise policing it becomes an absolute minefield.

It's frustrating as the impact red cards have in the game today is monumental. I think we were 5 points down at that time but we were still well in the game, we had carved Galway open for at least three goal chances by then and hit the post 4 times.

Referees need to be absolutely certain when issuing a red card, there's no way Lane could have been.

You said it comes down to whether what he did was reckless or dangerous. It can be said with certainty that what he did was dangerous. His shoulder made sickening contact with the Galway players jaw and he definitely looked concussed. It was just pure luck he didn’t suffer a broken jaw or a bad concussion. Oisin mcconville summed it up last night when he said it was an unnecessary type of tackle because he’d have been much better off trying to tackle or strip the ball.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 24, 2020, 10:24:34 AM
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If you are giving a red card for that then you have to outlaw the shoulder challenge

It’s supposed to be shoulder to shoulder. Once it’s executed correctly it’s one of the most pleasurable tackles in the Game.

You correct though, it’s a fine line for the tackler. Love watching this one!


https://youtu.be/MQZemthWLLA

It is and I have no qualms with that but if you are giving red cards for lads being a split second late with a shoulder tackle then they should not be allowed.

In football nowadays if your two feet leave the ground in a tackle, it's red card irrespective of whether the ball is played or not. If they are going to justify the decision to send McGeary off like that then they can't defend the use of a shoulder challenge.

It's a yellow card at most, it's fair attempt to hit him a shoulder, the Galway player changes direction at the last second and gets caught. I've heard people going on about elbows being used but they have some imaginations to see an elbow there.

There has to be leeway that sometimes players are going to be a split second late, particularly with the pace of the game now.
No in fairness to McGeary there was no raised elbow there (from my vantage point on the sideline I had thought he caught him with the elbow but replays showed this was not the case).
He was unlucky - a second earlier and there is no head contact.

It comes down to whether what McGeary did was either reckless or dangerous.

It was genuine attempt to hit a legitimate shoulder, his stance in executing the shoulder was textbook for a legitimate shoulder challenge but his timing was a split second out.

A genuine attempt to execute the shoulder charge but the timing was out by a fraction, a yellow card would have sufficed. If referees are deeming legitimate tackles that could be out by a fraction as reckless and dangerous then those tackles should be outlawed completely from the game, otherwise policing it becomes an absolute minefield.

It's frustrating as the impact red cards have in the game today is monumental. I think we were 5 points down at that time but we were still well in the game, we had carved Galway open for at least three goal chances by then and hit the post 4 times.

Referees need to be absolutely certain when issuing a red card, there's no way Lane could have been.

You said it comes down to whether what he did was reckless or dangerous. It can be said with certainty that what he did was dangerous. His shoulder made sickening contact with the Galway players jaw and he definitely looked concussed. It was just pure luck he didn’t suffer a broken jaw or a bad concussion. Oisin mcconville summed it up last night when he said it was an unnecessary type of tackle because he’d have been much better off trying to tackle or strip the ball.

That makes no sense whatsoever. What McGeary did do was a textbook shoulder challenge that was mistimed as a fraction. If you deem tackles like that in the game to have the potential to be highly dangerous or reckless if mistimed by the nth degree then you simply have to ban it wholesale. The GAA allow for shoulder tackles to be used, therefore they can't deem them reckless or dangerous if they are genuine attempts and mistimed by a fraction. It's fairly straight forward, as usual you can't leave you bias and bitterness at the door. We all know you'd be singing off a completely different hymn sheet if the roles were reversed.

His shoulder did not make contact with the Galway player's jaw. the player was not concussed and was up on his feet looking sprightly shortly after and was checked over by medical staff. At least have the manners to talk about things that actually happened rather than letting your imagination run wild.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: imtommygunn on February 24, 2020, 10:46:08 AM
Angelo there's a bit of an irony in you talking about leaving bias aside.

As several people have said it could be deemed dangerous or reckless. It's a debatable one yes but that's about it. Some refs might not have given it but plenty would IMO.

It is not a decision, or even close to a decision, which calls into question fundamental rules like the shoulder challenge.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 24, 2020, 10:49:35 AM
Red card or not, it was one decision and not worth the time discussing it in so much detail as the reality was we were getting a trimming in that game regardless in my eyes. We were so poor. I lost count of the number of misplaced side wards passes that were cut out by a Galway player. We were so far off the pace it was unbelievable.

Fair play trueblue, reading back some messages here you would think that the red card was the sole deciding factor in the match.
From the old stand I thought it was very harsh at the time but having seen the replay back it's easy to see why it was given, Tyrone player very unlucky and I don't believe there was any intent to cause injury but at the end of the day he shouldered him into the jaw, what else is the ref supposed to do if he sees that foul? How do you give leeway on this? McGeary mistimed it by a second and caught him in the head, those are the breaks.

His shoulder did not make contact with the Galway player's jaw.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you were at the match and haven't seen it back yet, because it's either that or you are just willfully lying to yourself, it's as clear as day on the replay.

Hard to do any right analysis of that match given the red cards and the horrific injury to the main man for Tyrone, Galway I thought were the better team when the numbers were equal but at the same time they were quite open at the back when run at down the middle and Tyrone could have got through a number of times, would have been a very different look on it if some of the Tyrone attempts had been more accurate.
I liked that Galway kept piling it on even when the game was already done and dusted, we need to be ruthless and scoring difference could be very important for the league placing yet.

Gleeson is a super shot stopper but the kickout situation remains very much a work in progress. Not being able to find a Galway player consistently every time when the 15v14 advantage was there was disappointing, at the business end of the year this could be the difference between winning and losing.
Steede kicked some absolute dingers in the first half, great to see him looking a bit more comfortable at this level, was around the play a lot more but still plenty of improvement required.
Others will say enough about Shane Walsh here and elsewhere but he is worth the price of match admission on his own at the minute, that point from play in the first half from the right hand side was something special, the camera angle from the opposite side doesn't do it full justice, from the stands it looked even more outrageous.
Comer however remains just as key to Galway's fortunes, there isn't another player in the country quite like him in terms of the challenge he presents and the attention he gets from the opposition as a result makes it that so much easier for his teammates. Looking at the sad sight of McShane being carried off yesterday I thought that if either Walsh or Comer unfortunately got injured in a similar manner I don't know what Galway would do, they are absolutely irreplaceable.

Whatever about the result of a February league match it really was terrible to see the bad McShane injury, I think everyone there knew it was a horrible one straight away, wishing him as speedy a recovery as possible but it'll no doubt take some time unfortunately given the seriousness of it. I feel for Tyrone fans as this is devastating for them given the calibre of the player he is, McShane is absolutely top class.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: lenny on February 24, 2020, 10:52:42 AM
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If you are giving a red card for that then you have to outlaw the shoulder challenge

It’s supposed to be shoulder to shoulder. Once it’s executed correctly it’s one of the most pleasurable tackles in the Game.

You correct though, it’s a fine line for the tackler. Love watching this one!


https://youtu.be/MQZemthWLLA

It is and I have no qualms with that but if you are giving red cards for lads being a split second late with a shoulder tackle then they should not be allowed.

In football nowadays if your two feet leave the ground in a tackle, it's red card irrespective of whether the ball is played or not. If they are going to justify the decision to send McGeary off like that then they can't defend the use of a shoulder challenge.

It's a yellow card at most, it's fair attempt to hit him a shoulder, the Galway player changes direction at the last second and gets caught. I've heard people going on about elbows being used but they have some imaginations to see an elbow there.

There has to be leeway that sometimes players are going to be a split second late, particularly with the pace of the game now.
No in fairness to McGeary there was no raised elbow there (from my vantage point on the sideline I had thought he caught him with the elbow but replays showed this was not the case).
He was unlucky - a second earlier and there is no head contact.

It comes down to whether what McGeary did was either reckless or dangerous.

It was genuine attempt to hit a legitimate shoulder, his stance in executing the shoulder was textbook for a legitimate shoulder challenge but his timing was a split second out.

A genuine attempt to execute the shoulder charge but the timing was out by a fraction, a yellow card would have sufficed. If referees are deeming legitimate tackles that could be out by a fraction as reckless and dangerous then those tackles should be outlawed completely from the game, otherwise policing it becomes an absolute minefield.

It's frustrating as the impact red cards have in the game today is monumental. I think we were 5 points down at that time but we were still well in the game, we had carved Galway open for at least three goal chances by then and hit the post 4 times.

Referees need to be absolutely certain when issuing a red card, there's no way Lane could have been.

You said it comes down to whether what he did was reckless or dangerous. It can be said with certainty that what he did was dangerous. His shoulder made sickening contact with the Galway players jaw and he definitely looked concussed. It was just pure luck he didn’t suffer a broken jaw or a bad concussion. Oisin mcconville summed it up last night when he said it was an unnecessary type of tackle because he’d have been much better off trying to tackle or strip the ball.

That makes no sense whatsoever. What McGeary did do was a textbook shoulder challenge that was mistimed as a fraction. If you deem tackles like that in the game to have the potential to be highly dangerous or reckless if mistimed by the nth degree then you simply have to ban it wholesale. The GAA allow for shoulder tackles to be used, therefore they can't deem them reckless or dangerous if they are genuine attempts and mistimed by a fraction. It's fairly straight forward, as usual you can't leave you bias and bitterness at the door. We all know you'd be singing off a completely different hymn sheet if the roles were reversed.

His shoulder did not make contact with the Galway player's jaw. the player was not concussed and was up on his feet looking sprightly shortly after and was checked over by medical staff. At least have the manners to talk about things that actually happened rather than letting your imagination run wild.

Let’s not get emotional and simply look at the facts. The tackle was dangerous, that much can be said with certainty, and is therefore worthy of a red card. Once again I will say that I don’t think mcgeary is in any way a dirty player but that type of tackle deserves a red card every time.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 24, 2020, 11:14:41 AM
How many Mayo supporters made the trip to Clones? it looked like they grabbed the best seats in the Gerry Arthurs Stand, like the Germans on the beaches.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on February 24, 2020, 11:18:02 AM
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If you are giving a red card for that then you have to outlaw the shoulder challenge

It’s supposed to be shoulder to shoulder. Once it’s executed correctly it’s one of the most pleasurable tackles in the Game.

You correct though, it’s a fine line for the tackler. Love watching this one!


https://youtu.be/MQZemthWLLA

It is and I have no qualms with that but if you are giving red cards for lads being a split second late with a shoulder tackle then they should not be allowed.

In football nowadays if your two feet leave the ground in a tackle, it's red card irrespective of whether the ball is played or not. If they are going to justify the decision to send McGeary off like that then they can't defend the use of a shoulder challenge.

It's a yellow card at most, it's fair attempt to hit him a shoulder, the Galway player changes direction at the last second and gets caught. I've heard people going on about elbows being used but they have some imaginations to see an elbow there.

There has to be leeway that sometimes players are going to be a split second late, particularly with the pace of the game now.
No in fairness to McGeary there was no raised elbow there (from my vantage point on the sideline I had thought he caught him with the elbow but replays showed this was not the case).
He was unlucky - a second earlier and there is no head contact.

It comes down to whether what McGeary did was either reckless or dangerous.

It was genuine attempt to hit a legitimate shoulder, his stance in executing the shoulder was textbook for a legitimate shoulder challenge but his timing was a split second out.

A genuine attempt to execute the shoulder charge but the timing was out by a fraction, a yellow card would have sufficed. If referees are deeming legitimate tackles that could be out by a fraction as reckless and dangerous then those tackles should be outlawed completely from the game, otherwise policing it becomes an absolute minefield.

It's frustrating as the impact red cards have in the game today is monumental. I think we were 5 points down at that time but we were still well in the game, we had carved Galway open for at least three goal chances by then and hit the post 4 times.

Referees need to be absolutely certain when issuing a red card, there's no way Lane could have been.

You said it comes down to whether what he did was reckless or dangerous. It can be said with certainty that what he did was dangerous. His shoulder made sickening contact with the Galway players jaw and he definitely looked concussed. It was just pure luck he didn’t suffer a broken jaw or a bad concussion. Oisin mcconville summed it up last night when he said it was an unnecessary type of tackle because he’d have been much better off trying to tackle or strip the ball.

That makes no sense whatsoever. What McGeary did do was a textbook shoulder challenge that was mistimed as a fraction. If you deem tackles like that in the game to have the potential to be highly dangerous or reckless if mistimed by the nth degree then you simply have to ban it wholesale. The GAA allow for shoulder tackles to be used, therefore they can't deem them reckless or dangerous if they are genuine attempts and mistimed by a fraction. It's fairly straight forward, as usual you can't leave you bias and bitterness at the door. We all know you'd be singing off a completely different hymn sheet if the roles were reversed.

His shoulder did not make contact with the Galway player's jaw. the player was not concussed and was up on his feet looking sprightly shortly after and was checked over by medical staff. At least have the manners to talk about things that actually happened rather than letting your imagination run wild.
Seriously man - are you blind? Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the red card - his shoulder absolutely 100% does make contact with Brannigan's jaw. To say anything else is just wrong.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 24, 2020, 11:30:52 AM
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If you are giving a red card for that then you have to outlaw the shoulder challenge

It’s supposed to be shoulder to shoulder. Once it’s executed correctly it’s one of the most pleasurable tackles in the Game.

You correct though, it’s a fine line for the tackler. Love watching this one!


https://youtu.be/MQZemthWLLA

It is and I have no qualms with that but if you are giving red cards for lads being a split second late with a shoulder tackle then they should not be allowed.

In football nowadays if your two feet leave the ground in a tackle, it's red card irrespective of whether the ball is played or not. If they are going to justify the decision to send McGeary off like that then they can't defend the use of a shoulder challenge.

It's a yellow card at most, it's fair attempt to hit him a shoulder, the Galway player changes direction at the last second and gets caught. I've heard people going on about elbows being used but they have some imaginations to see an elbow there.

There has to be leeway that sometimes players are going to be a split second late, particularly with the pace of the game now.
No in fairness to McGeary there was no raised elbow there (from my vantage point on the sideline I had thought he caught him with the elbow but replays showed this was not the case).
He was unlucky - a second earlier and there is no head contact.

It comes down to whether what McGeary did was either reckless or dangerous.

It was genuine attempt to hit a legitimate shoulder, his stance in executing the shoulder was textbook for a legitimate shoulder challenge but his timing was a split second out.

A genuine attempt to execute the shoulder charge but the timing was out by a fraction, a yellow card would have sufficed. If referees are deeming legitimate tackles that could be out by a fraction as reckless and dangerous then those tackles should be outlawed completely from the game, otherwise policing it becomes an absolute minefield.

It's frustrating as the impact red cards have in the game today is monumental. I think we were 5 points down at that time but we were still well in the game, we had carved Galway open for at least three goal chances by then and hit the post 4 times.

Referees need to be absolutely certain when issuing a red card, there's no way Lane could have been.

You said it comes down to whether what he did was reckless or dangerous. It can be said with certainty that what he did was dangerous. His shoulder made sickening contact with the Galway players jaw and he definitely looked concussed. It was just pure luck he didn’t suffer a broken jaw or a bad concussion. Oisin mcconville summed it up last night when he said it was an unnecessary type of tackle because he’d have been much better off trying to tackle or strip the ball.

That makes no sense whatsoever. What McGeary did do was a textbook shoulder challenge that was mistimed as a fraction. If you deem tackles like that in the game to have the potential to be highly dangerous or reckless if mistimed by the nth degree then you simply have to ban it wholesale. The GAA allow for shoulder tackles to be used, therefore they can't deem them reckless or dangerous if they are genuine attempts and mistimed by a fraction. It's fairly straight forward, as usual you can't leave you bias and bitterness at the door. We all know you'd be singing off a completely different hymn sheet if the roles were reversed.

His shoulder did not make contact with the Galway player's jaw. the player was not concussed and was up on his feet looking sprightly shortly after and was checked over by medical staff. At least have the manners to talk about things that actually happened rather than letting your imagination run wild.
Seriously man - are you blind? Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the red card - his shoulder absolutely 100% does make contact with Brannigan's jaw. To say anything else is just wrong.

It did alright.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 24, 2020, 11:40:04 AM
It's looking good for a repeat of the 2018 league final between Galway and Dublin but Monaghan might have a say in that yet.

Relegation, Mayo will find a way out of it (they always do) when is Cillian O Connor due back? Donegal v Tyrone will probably be a relegation decider I reckon.

Broken ankle for Cathal McShane by the looks of it. Wishing him a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: square_ball on February 24, 2020, 11:56:08 AM
Watched it several times this morning. I’m convinced McGeary never made contact with the head.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: BennyCake on February 24, 2020, 11:57:46 AM
How many Mayo supporters made the trip to Clones? it looked like they grabbed the best seats in the Gerry Arthurs Stand, like the Germans on the beaches.

Don’t you mean “on the sun loungers”? On the beaches could mean something totally different!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 24, 2020, 12:11:25 PM
Weird game in Tuam yesterday and any analysis would have to be tempered due to the sendings off and the terrible injury to McShane - wish him a speedy recovery, he is a class player.

We were the better team while the sides were numerically matched but were definitely opened up a little too easy for my liking at times.  That being said, our first meaningful attack should have yielded a goal!  Our KO's were aimless I thought for most of the game and a lot of work needs to be done there otherwise it will come back to haunt us as the year plays out.  Hopefully yesterdays game will give Steede the confidence to push on at this level, he kicked a few great scores albeit he had acres of space in which to do so. 

Shane Walsh is just a joy to watch at the moment and a coaches dream and I say that from my own perspective.  I had my your fella (11) and his buddy with me in Tuam at the game and they were just enthralled with his ability off both feet and his pace. Nothing would do them but to get out on the pitch afterwards just to tell him well done and home after to bate the ball off the rebounder but with a lot less dexterity that Shane - maybe that will come with time!!!  ;D 

Very much looking forward to a great tussle with Meath in Navan next weekend - its been a very enjoyable league campaign to date.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Hound on February 24, 2020, 12:18:40 PM
Tim O Leary calling for Horam out on Twitter. He said he was the best man for the job a few days ago.
He's seems an eejit, with money to burn.

He's a loose cannon. Probably will cause more hassle later on this year too.
He has deleted the outburst and tweeted the following this morning:

Sorry for my outburst yesterday - had a few too many pints - lesson learned - i am going to keep my mouth shut going forward - have a good week
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 24, 2020, 12:23:41 PM
Tim O Leary calling for Horam out on Twitter. He said he was the best man for the job a few days ago.
He's seems an eejit, with money to burn.

He's a loose cannon. Probably will cause more hassle later on this year too.
He has deleted the outburst and tweeted the following this morning:

Sorry for my outburst yesterday - had a few too many pints - lesson learned - i am going to keep my mouth shut going forward - have a good week

For someone with too much to drink he wasn't making any spelling errors with his tweets which included a number of replies stating it was his opinion as many Mayo supporters asked him to remove that original tweet
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Lar Naparka on February 24, 2020, 01:13:55 PM
Anyone know why Matty Ruane is not playing at the moment? Along with Foinn McDonagh he was the pick of the new hopefuls last season and Mayo needs inspiration from somewhere right now.
A few promising kids there right now but there's no David Clifford among them.Harrison, O'Connor, Higgins etc. etc. may be pressed into action from here on but if they are out through injury, there will be questions about their match fitness.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on February 24, 2020, 01:25:52 PM
Anyone know why Matty Ruane is not playing at the moment? Along with Foinn McDonagh he was the pick of the new hopefuls last season and Mayo needs inspiration from somewhere right now.
A few promising kids there right now but there's no David Clifford among them.Harrison, O'Connor, Higgins etc. etc. may be pressed into action from here on but if they are out through injury, there will be questions about their match fitness.

Rumour has it McDonagh was cut from panel for indiscipline issue , I haven’t a notion if true or not but kinda believe it cause he’s not been involved so far . Ruane is injured afaik but again there is rumours the oz invite is in the post for himself and Mullen .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: MayoBuck on February 24, 2020, 01:42:18 PM
Ruane has a shoulder injury. Not sure if he'll play any of the league, he certainly won't feature against Kerry. Cillian is back training anyway but don't know if he'll be ready for next weekend.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 24, 2020, 01:48:13 PM
Anyone know why Matty Ruane is not playing at the moment? Along with Foinn McDonagh he was the pick of the new hopefuls last season and Mayo needs inspiration from somewhere right now.
A few promising kids there right now but there's no David Clifford among them.Harrison, O'Connor, Higgins etc. etc. may be pressed into action from here on but if they are out through injury, there will be questions about their match fitness.

Rumour has it McDonagh was cut from panel for indiscipline issue , I haven’t a notion if true or not but kinda believe it cause he’s not been involved so far . Ruane is injured afaik but again there is rumours the oz invite is in the post for himself and Mullen .

I've heard the same rumour about McDonagh myself.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: macdanger2 on February 24, 2020, 01:50:10 PM
Is the TG4 GAA Beo programme available anywhere? I can't find it on the TG4 player
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 24, 2020, 02:46:14 PM
If you'e going to hit someone with the shoulder you better be making sure you make contact with his shoulder and not his head otherwise you're going to get the line. He was unlucky in terms of being a fraction out with his timing but you can't afford to be a fraction out with a challenge like that, there's always the danger a player in possession will move his head which indeed happened.

Frank Burns must have committed 6, 7 or even 8 fouls yesterday, played like a man extremely frustrated with his role. Galway were brilliant going forward yesterday in the first half when it was 15 on 15 and kicked some brilliantly worked scores; Steede isn't going to be dominant in the air, he's not that type of player but he can kick scores from distance at a regularity which not many midfielders can match. Whether his all round game will be good enough I don't know but we'll soon find out.

It was interesting to see Sean Kelly given the job to man mark McShane, I thought he did reasonably well on him considering he's new to the role and and only learning; I'm sure he's getting plenty of practice in training on Walsh & Comer. Heaney still has work to do on his defending but like Kelly playing in the full back line is new to him. On a number of occassions yesterday Tyrone got too close to goal without doing too much which I'm sure will be worked on. I was impressed with McDaid yesterday apart from one error early in the 2nd half, the harder pitch in the summer will really suit him.

The kick outs need work but Galway in fairness won plenty of ball of Paton and Morgan's long kick outs in the last 2 weeks. It was a good bit of management taking Finnerty off, refs are always looking to even it up and he was one foul away from getting the line.

Walsh playing like this is worth the admission fee alone and good to see Comer getting sharper, he was excellent yesterday and Tyrone couldn't handle him either.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 24, 2020, 02:53:41 PM
If you'e going to hit someone with the shoulder you better be making sure you make contact with his shoulder and not his head otherwise you're going to get the line. He was unlucky in terms of being a fraction out with his timing but you can't afford to be a fraction out with a challenge like that, there's always the danger a player in possession will move his head which indeed happened.



That outlook makes a mockery of the current rules in the game.

The GAA are basically sanctioning players to commit tackles that could cause dangerous injuries if mistimed by the slightest of margins.

Either the shoulder tackle has to be outlawed or you have to allow some leeway in situations like that.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: MayoBuck on February 24, 2020, 03:07:41 PM
If you'e going to hit someone with the shoulder you better be making sure you make contact with his shoulder and not his head otherwise you're going to get the line. He was unlucky in terms of being a fraction out with his timing but you can't afford to be a fraction out with a challenge like that, there's always the danger a player in possession will move his head which indeed happened.



That outlook makes a mockery of the current rules in the game.

The GAA are basically sanctioning players to commit tackles that could cause dangerous injuries if mistimed by the slightest of margins.

Either the shoulder tackle has to be outlawed or you have to allow some leeway in situations like that.

You're really making too much of this. Tackling with your hand in Gaelic football is fine but if you miss time it and box someone in the face you'll be in trouble. No different to a sliding tackle in soccer either. Perfectly legal if done correctly but if you're a fraction late and break someone's leg it's a red card.

It ended up a dangerous challenge so there can't be any complaints with the card.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: highorlow on February 24, 2020, 03:15:31 PM
Quote
That outlook makes a mockery of the current rules in the game.

The GAA are basically sanctioning players to commit tackles that could cause dangerous injuries if mistimed by the slightest of margins.

Either the shoulder tackle has to be outlawed or you have to allow some leeway in situations like that.



Rugby is evolving in relation to tackling also as the modern players are faster and stronger. As long as it's shoulder to shoulder it's a fair rule. Your correct though, coaches should discourage it unless players are certain. It's a good rule when both players are attempting to chase down the ball.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tonto1888 on February 24, 2020, 03:15:59 PM
If you'e going to hit someone with the shoulder you better be making sure you make contact with his shoulder and not his head otherwise you're going to get the line. He was unlucky in terms of being a fraction out with his timing but you can't afford to be a fraction out with a challenge like that, there's always the danger a player in possession will move his head which indeed happened.



That outlook makes a mockery of the current rules in the game.

The GAA are basically sanctioning players to commit tackles that could cause dangerous injuries if mistimed by the slightest of margins.

Either the shoulder tackle has to be outlawed or you have to allow some leeway in situations like that.

Any mistimed tackle can cause dangerous injury
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 24, 2020, 03:18:41 PM
If you'e going to hit someone with the shoulder you better be making sure you make contact with his shoulder and not his head otherwise you're going to get the line. He was unlucky in terms of being a fraction out with his timing but you can't afford to be a fraction out with a challenge like that, there's always the danger a player in possession will move his head which indeed happened.



That outlook makes a mockery of the current rules in the game.

The GAA are basically sanctioning players to commit tackles that could cause dangerous injuries if mistimed by the slightest of margins.

Either the shoulder tackle has to be outlawed or you have to allow some leeway in situations like that.

Any mistimed tackle can cause dangerous injury

Incorrect.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Manning18 on February 24, 2020, 03:25:32 PM
If you'e going to hit someone with the shoulder you better be making sure you make contact with his shoulder and not his head otherwise you're going to get the line. He was unlucky in terms of being a fraction out with his timing but you can't afford to be a fraction out with a challenge like that, there's always the danger a player in possession will move his head which indeed happened.



That outlook makes a mockery of the current rules in the game.

The GAA are basically sanctioning players to commit tackles that could cause dangerous injuries if mistimed by the slightest of margins.

Either the shoulder tackle has to be outlawed or you have to allow some leeway in situations like that.

Everyone loves the big shoulder hit, and it's great for a player when they connect with one fairly. But the rules on it are very clear. You go for that big shoulder hit, you 100% have to connect correctly. If you're even a milisecond mistimed, or if the forward is a fraction too quick for you (as Brannigan was yesterday), then you're in trouble. It's happened time and time again. Happened to his own teammate Niall Morgan against the dubs last year, happened to Richie Hogan in the Hurling final. You go for the big hit, you run the risk of getting it wrong. Or do as Oisin McConville said on league Sunday last night, leave the ego aside and go for a tackle that's much safer and more efficient.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 24, 2020, 03:28:41 PM
If you'e going to hit someone with the shoulder you better be making sure you make contact with his shoulder and not his head otherwise you're going to get the line. He was unlucky in terms of being a fraction out with his timing but you can't afford to be a fraction out with a challenge like that, there's always the danger a player in possession will move his head which indeed happened.



That outlook makes a mockery of the current rules in the game.

The GAA are basically sanctioning players to commit tackles that could cause dangerous injuries if mistimed by the slightest of margins.

Either the shoulder tackle has to be outlawed or you have to allow some leeway in situations like that.

Everyone loves the big shoulder hit, and it's great for a player when they connect with one fairly. But the rules on it are very clear. You go for that big shoulder hit, you 100% have to connect correctly. If you're even a milisecond mistimed, or if the forward is a fraction too quick for you (as Brannigan was yesterday), then you're in trouble. It's happened time and time again. Happened to his own teammate Niall Morgan against the dubs last year, happened to Richie Hogan in the Hurling final. You go for the big hit, you run the risk of getting it wrong. Or do as Oisin McConville said on league Sunday last night, leave the ego aside and go for a tackle that's much safer and more efficient.

The rules are not clear.

Richie Hogan was sent off for elbowing his opponent, not for a mistimed shoulder - it was premeditated and deliberate act.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 24, 2020, 04:55:52 PM
Will you be happier if someone says the only reason Tyrone lost yesterday was because of that red card?
The lad went for the big shot, mistimed it and got the card he deserved, give it a f**king rest at this stage.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on February 24, 2020, 05:17:04 PM
If you'e going to hit someone with the shoulder you better be making sure you make contact with his shoulder and not his head otherwise you're going to get the line. He was unlucky in terms of being a fraction out with his timing but you can't afford to be a fraction out with a challenge like that, there's always the danger a player in possession will move his head which indeed happened.



That outlook makes a mockery of the current rules in the game.

The GAA are basically sanctioning players to commit tackles that could cause dangerous injuries if mistimed by the slightest of margins.

Either the shoulder tackle has to be outlawed or you have to allow some leeway in situations like that.

Everyone loves the big shoulder hit, and it's great for a player when they connect with one fairly. But the rules on it are very clear. You go for that big shoulder hit, you 100% have to connect correctly. If you're even a milisecond mistimed, or if the forward is a fraction too quick for you (as Brannigan was yesterday), then you're in trouble. It's happened time and time again. Happened to his own teammate Niall Morgan against the dubs last year, happened to Richie Hogan in the Hurling final. You go for the big hit, you run the risk of getting it wrong. Or do as Oisin McConville said on league Sunday last night, leave the ego aside and go for a tackle that's much safer and more efficient.

The rules are not clear.

Richie Hogan was sent off for elbowing his opponent, not for a mistimed shoulder - it was premeditated and deliberate act.
Christ on a bike. Has anyone ever got this animated about a red card in a league game in February.
Create a new thread if you want to keep waffling on about it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: tonto1888 on February 24, 2020, 05:20:22 PM
If you'e going to hit someone with the shoulder you better be making sure you make contact with his shoulder and not his head otherwise you're going to get the line. He was unlucky in terms of being a fraction out with his timing but you can't afford to be a fraction out with a challenge like that, there's always the danger a player in possession will move his head which indeed happened.



That outlook makes a mockery of the current rules in the game.

The GAA are basically sanctioning players to commit tackles that could cause dangerous injuries if mistimed by the slightest of margins.

Either the shoulder tackle has to be outlawed or you have to allow some leeway in situations like that.

Any mistimed tackle can cause dangerous injury

Incorrect.

Really? That’s incorrect?? Okeydokey then
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Rossfan on February 24, 2020, 05:21:35 PM
Pure comedy gold "Angelo" has definitely taken over Syferus' title.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: rodney trotter on February 24, 2020, 05:23:15 PM
He rambled on about Donegal not playing a Mckenna Cup game. Doesn't seem to let things go.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: imtommygunn on February 24, 2020, 07:08:06 PM
If you'e going to hit someone with the shoulder you better be making sure you make contact with his shoulder and not his head otherwise you're going to get the line. He was unlucky in terms of being a fraction out with his timing but you can't afford to be a fraction out with a challenge like that, there's always the danger a player in possession will move his head which indeed happened.



That outlook makes a mockery of the current rules in the game.

The GAA are basically sanctioning players to commit tackles that could cause dangerous injuries if mistimed by the slightest of margins.

Either the shoulder tackle has to be outlawed or you have to allow some leeway in situations like that.

Any mistimed tackle can cause dangerous injury

Incorrect.

Really? That’s incorrect?? Okeydokey then

#angelofacts
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: cornetto on February 24, 2020, 11:19:13 PM
Its gas what a week in football does last week Tyrone done a great job of beating a top class team as in Kerry, this week they are being talked about as relegation contenders for fecks sake they came within 3 pts a man down hit the post a couple of times I don't think they will be relegated and the scoreline is a bit deceiving from yesterday how good galway are will be seen when mayo & dubs come to town.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: dublin7 on February 24, 2020, 11:34:34 PM
Will you be happier if someone says the only reason Tyrone lost yesterday was because of that red card?
The lad went for the big shot, mistimed it and got the card he deserved, give it a f**king rest at this stage.

Also Tyrone were alreadly 3/4 points behind and struggling all over the pitch at the time. Your farcical defense of the red card is only small fry compared to the poor performance by Tyrone. I'd be far more worried about that than a deserved red card if I was you
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Angelo on February 24, 2020, 11:46:04 PM
I see the glass house collective can't leave their bias at the door.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 25, 2020, 09:36:19 AM
Aidan O'Rourke's column from the RTE website;

The freshly reimagined Tribesmen have attacked this year’s Allianz League with the energy of a squad emboldened by new opportunities. There are only a few new faces, but Pádraic Joyce’s players have responded to their new stimuli as well as any management could hope for.

If players feel supported and that they will have opportunities to prove their worth, new coaching teams should always feel a short term bounce in energy and buy-in. Galway have achieved that – as Monaghan have – and the impact of coaching messages will be enhanced as a result.

Opponents have now had four opportunities to examine what is different about Galway so far. Sitting on top of the league, the Tribesmen can expect teams to now set up to counteract their strengths.

What is Different?

There are a number of traits that this Galway team have built in the short window they’ve had that are different from the Kevin Walsh era – both with and without the ball.

The element of their game identified most readily as progression is the quality of their kicking. This has indeed been impressive and the depth of players capable of looking for and executing the right pass in attack paints a picture of an extremely skilful and perceptive team.

What makes that kick passing so effective is the quality of movement ahead and the collective understanding how and where the space to kick to will be created.

Attacking in Phases

Initially, when breaking from deep, Galway are looking for a longer outlet ball either side of their focal point at centre forward. That was mostly Damien Comer on Sunday but the rotation of their forward roles brings Shane Walsh into this area a lot. Both men bring power to their movement and so are brilliant targets to build off.

What that early ball does is bypass the warzone that middle thirds have become while teams attempt to build attacks. This is the area of the pitch where defending teams are most aggressive in the tackle because a foul beyond shooting range is a very good antidote to direct football.

Of course, Galway’s wing forwards Daly and Brannigan will be nowhere near that area of the pitch until the outlet ball is won, thus both wings are available to be utilised if opponents don’t protect them.

Inside Movement

Robert Finnerty has made his mark on the Galway full-forward line 
Playing with the elements in the opening period on Sunday, Joyce positioned his 13 and 15 as wide as was practical as their attacks developed. This created a wide central channel in front of Shane Walsh, who was positioned on the square – marked by Ronan McNamee and covered by Colm Cavanagh.

Finnerty and Varley were never getting the early ball inside unless plan A disappeared – their job was to maintain the space for Walsh and time their support runs cutting across from wide.

This is where Galway’s kicking was most impressive. Walsh’s movement was initially lateral before he shook McNamee off and raced outside Cavanagh. Accurate, angled balls found the Galway captain consistently and they were able to support hard off his shoulder to create shooting opportunities.

The variation of this in the second half when the elements were not as supportive saw Walsh come deeper as an additional outlet runner and Finnerty moved central.

Robert Finnerty has made a significant impact precisely because of Galway’s style of play. He was unmarkable in league and championship this season for NUIG and his ball winning and finishing are a considerable addition to Pádraic Joyce’s attacking options.

Patience When Required

The final piece of Galway’s attacking jigsaw has been their control and collective understanding when their attacks are slowed and bodies are back. Immediately they empty the space in front of goal to create a perimeter around the shooting zone and probe for gaps in the defensive chain.

This is not a new approach by any means but their quick and accurate movement of the ball around contact created shooting opportunities right on the perimeter of comfortable shooting. Invariably they nailed those chances this weekend.

In Defence of the Tribe

Without the ball, what is different is Galway’s desire to hunt the ball back around the middle as opposed to the tendency under Kevin Walsh to drop to middle third players into defined areas. Eamonn Brannigan is key to empowering this as his instinct for work means he can latch onto a cover player’s man to create that single layer of a shield behind.

Typically, one defender is squeezed out the back of the middle to sit in as a cover player and everyone else gets to work pressing. Sean Mulkerrin filled that role more often than not against Tyrone and that has reinforced the Galway rearguard considerably. Earlier in the league John Daly filled this role and struggled with the decision making required to be effective.

Critical Analysis

The downside of performances to date is that opponents will prepare more diligently to take those effective strategies away and Meath will see opportunities this weekend.

If the Meath wing backs were to occupy their positions permanently, they could take away the early outlet ball that so many Galway attacks are built on. Immediately they are slowing the build up play and have defenders in position to exert maximum pressure as the Westerners try to probe for gaps thereafter.

Without the ball, where the Tribesmen can be exposed is through the time it takes them to drop a cover player back. On Sunday, Tyrone were pedestrian through the middle third and exhibited none of the kicking in attack that added a new dimension last Summer.

Ironically, Galway are vulnerable to their own attacking gameplan of kicking early as they leave a relatively significant window of man on man defence before the mechanics of their transition start to move.

A New Identity

Pádraic Joyce's side will no doubt have their sights on a league final appearance
At this stage of the campaign, Pádraic Joyce and his coaching team can only be delighted with the obvious progress they have achieved in forging a new identity through their play. How they use the ball represents many of the traditional values of the game people love to watch.

The next phase of development for Galway will begin over the last three rounds of the league as opponents attempt to take away their preferred style and force them to adapt on their feet. This will be the most important part of their learning ahead of the championship.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: dublin7 on February 25, 2020, 09:45:01 AM
I see the glass house collective can't leave their bias at the door.

The league table and McShane's injury would be far bigger issues you should be worried about. If it was Mickey Harte going on about it like you, then you might think he was just trying to take attention away from the manner of the defeat. Galway were dominating that game and the red cards merely meant the margin of victory was bigger than if Tyrone could have kept 15 men on the field
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Taylor on February 25, 2020, 10:34:34 AM
I see the glass house collective can't leave their bias at the door.

The league table and McShane's injury would be far bigger issues you should be worried about. If it was Mickey Harte going on about it like you, then you might think he was just trying to take attention away from the manner of the defeat. Galway were dominating that game and the red cards merely meant the margin of victory was bigger than if Tyrone could have kept 15 men on the field

Red card doesnt concern me - can have no complaints about it.
Galway were much sharper all over the field especially up front where they took their chances.

Donnelly will take tim to get back and up to match fitness - unlikely McShane will have much impact this season.

Add into this Harte still not finding his form that leaves McCurry under real pressure to deliver game after game.

I for one will be happy just to stay up in Div 1
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 25, 2020, 03:32:18 PM
Aidan O'Rourke's column from the RTE website;

Typically, one defender is squeezed out the back of the middle to sit in as a cover player and everyone else gets to work pressing. Sean Mulkerrin filled that role more often than not against Tyrone and that has reinforced the Galway rearguard considerably. Earlier in the league John Daly filled this role and struggled with the decision making required to be effective.

That part had me scratching my head. I thought John Daly was arguably man of the match in 2 of Galway's first 3 games.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: rosnarun on February 25, 2020, 04:49:11 PM
I think the *rule now is collisons are allowed if both players are genuinely going for the ball rather than a shoulder charge being used like a rugby clearing out tackle

*this will not appear in any rule book and subject to change on a whim
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 25, 2020, 05:46:27 PM
Aidan O'Rourke's column from the RTE website;

Typically, one defender is squeezed out the back of the middle to sit in as a cover player and everyone else gets to work pressing. Sean Mulkerrin filled that role more often than not against Tyrone and that has reinforced the Galway rearguard considerably. Earlier in the league John Daly filled this role and struggled with the decision making required to be effective.

That part had me scratching my head. I thought John Daly was arguably man of the match in 2 of Galway's first 3 games.
He was!  O’Rourke is wrong on that one for sure.  Daly has been our most consistent performer since the start of last years league!!!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: rodney trotter on February 25, 2020, 06:12:01 PM
David Brady was on OfF the ball earlier discussing Mayo football
https://t.co/xUarzoL4rO?amp=1
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 25, 2020, 08:00:01 PM
Aidan O'Rourke's column from the RTE website;

Typically, one defender is squeezed out the back of the middle to sit in as a cover player and everyone else gets to work pressing. Sean Mulkerrin filled that role more often than not against Tyrone and that has reinforced the Galway rearguard considerably. Earlier in the league John Daly filled this role and struggled with the decision making required to be effective.

That part had me scratching my head. I thought John Daly was arguably man of the match in 2 of Galway's first 3 games.

The majority of O'Rourke articles are head scratchers.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 25, 2020, 10:22:19 PM
Galway team for the Meath match:
1   Connor Gleeson
2   Seán Kelly
3   Seán Ó Maoilchiaráin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Liam Silke
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Tom Flynn
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Michael Daly
13   Martin Farragher
14   Shane Walsh
15   Adrian Varley

O'Donnell very unlucky, thought he was excellent last Sunday and has played well so far in 2020 but now is the time to try out different combinations in the lines looking towards the summer.
Farragher in for the start, can't go any worse for him than his last appearance in the county jersey whatever else happens.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on February 26, 2020, 07:02:05 AM
Galway team for the Meath match:
1   Connor Gleeson
2   Seán Kelly
3   Seán Ó Maoilchiaráin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Liam Silke
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Tom Flynn
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Michael Daly
13   Martin Farragher
14   Shane Walsh
15   Adrian Varley

O'Donnell very unlucky, thought he was excellent last Sunday and has played well so far in 2020 but now is the time to try out different combinations in the lines looking towards the summer.
Farragher in for the start, can't go any worse for him than his last appearance in the county jersey whatever else happens.
Gary is unlucky for sure. The man rarely has a bad game for us.
Possibly Pj trying out combinations.
I think Daly has the number 6 shirt nailed on - O’Donnell, Silke, McDaid and Molloy probably fighting for the 2 starting wing back slots.
I know they have no points on the board but I think this is a very tricky game for us - especially immediately after Tyrone given the margin of victory.
One thing that is evident - we need to do something about our own kick outs.
We will be targeted there by the big boys later in the year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 26, 2020, 08:48:06 AM
I know they have no points on the board but I think this is a very tricky game for us - especially immediately after Tyrone given the margin of victory.
One thing that is evident - we need to do something about our own kick outs.

Galway have no win in 40 years in Navan apparently so it's not a happy hunting ground!
It's a stat that should have been put to bed in 2017 however when Galway somehow contrived to lose by a point despite being a good bit the better team in the second half, Danny Cummins missed a tap in goal chance when Galway were three up, Meath goaled near the end to win.

Kick out strategy and execution remains a fairly sizeable issue alright, we haven't seen much of an improvement in this area from the start of the year. Gleeson does bring a lot between the posts outside of this in fairness to him but it's probably the most important factor for a goalkeeper these days.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 26, 2020, 09:39:02 AM
Galway team for the Meath match:
1   Connor Gleeson
2   Seán Kelly
3   Seán Ó Maoilchiaráin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Liam Silke
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Tom Flynn
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Michael Daly
13   Martin Farragher
14   Shane Walsh
15   Adrian Varley

O'Donnell very unlucky, thought he was excellent last Sunday and has played well so far in 2020 but now is the time to try out different combinations in the lines looking towards the summer.
Farragher in for the start, can't go any worse for him than his last appearance in the county jersey whatever else happens.
Gary is unlucky for sure. The man rarely has a bad game for us.
Possibly Pj trying out combinations.
I think Daly has the number 6 shirt nailed on - O’Donnell, Silke, McDaid and Molloy probably fighting for the 2 starting wing back slots.
I know they have no points on the board but I think this is a very tricky game for us - especially immediately after Tyrone given the margin of victory.
One thing that is evident - we need to do something about our own kick outs.
We will be targeted there by the big boys later in the year.
Molloy went off injured in the club final so I’m assuming he’s injured?  He hasn’t even featured in a match day squad so far in the league.  Gary is extremely unlucky to miss out, was excellent last Sunday and has actually improved this year IMHO. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on February 26, 2020, 09:48:37 AM
I know they have no points on the board but I think this is a very tricky game for us - especially immediately after Tyrone given the margin of victory.
One thing that is evident - we need to do something about our own kick outs.

Galway have no win in 40 years in Navan apparently so it's not a happy hunting ground!
It's a stat that should have been put to bed in 2017 however when Galway somehow contrived to lose by a point despite being a good bit the better team in the second half, Danny Cummins missed a tap in goal chance when Galway were three up, Meath goaled near the end to win.

Kick out strategy and execution remains a fairly sizeable issue alright, we haven't seen much of an improvement in this area from the start of the year. Gleeson does bring a lot between the posts outside of this in fairness to him but it's probably the most important factor for a goalkeeper these days.
Yeah I was at a qualifier in 2011 in Navan also where we lost by a point. Cormac Bane had a goal chance in the last few seconds one v one with the keeper but it was saved.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on February 26, 2020, 09:49:41 AM
Galway team for the Meath match:
1   Connor Gleeson
2   Seán Kelly
3   Seán Ó Maoilchiaráin
4   Johnny Heaney
5   Liam Silke
6   John Daly
7   Cillian McDaid
8   Ronan Steede
9   Tom Flynn
10   Eamon Brannigan
11   Damien Comer
12   Michael Daly
13   Martin Farragher
14   Shane Walsh
15   Adrian Varley

O'Donnell very unlucky, thought he was excellent last Sunday and has played well so far in 2020 but now is the time to try out different combinations in the lines looking towards the summer.
Farragher in for the start, can't go any worse for him than his last appearance in the county jersey whatever else happens.
Gary is unlucky for sure. The man rarely has a bad game for us.
Possibly Pj trying out combinations.
I think Daly has the number 6 shirt nailed on - O’Donnell, Silke, McDaid and Molloy probably fighting for the 2 starting wing back slots.
I know they have no points on the board but I think this is a very tricky game for us - especially immediately after Tyrone given the margin of victory.
One thing that is evident - we need to do something about our own kick outs.
We will be targeted there by the big boys later in the year.
Molloy went off injured in the club final so I’m assuming he’s injured?  He hasn’t even featured in a match day squad so far in the league.  Gary is extremely unlucky to miss out, was excellent last Sunday and has actually improved this year IMHO.
Molloy mentioned injuring his shoulder in an interview the week after the game so it would make sense alright.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on February 26, 2020, 09:59:25 AM
Savage amount of Galway posts in here of late , deny the giddiness if ya wish but Joyce has really put belief back into Galway football , I’m starting to think gawd no please no .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Rossfan on February 26, 2020, 10:17:39 AM
I think they're 3rd favourites for the AI already.
Should walk Connacht and easily make the Semis anyway.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on February 26, 2020, 10:37:44 AM
Savage amount of Galway posts in here of late , deny the giddiness if ya wish but Joyce has really put belief back into Galway football , I’m starting to think gawd no please no .
He has certainly galvanised some of the Galway football public alright. Personally - whilst I'm enjoying watching this team I honestly am not convinced we will do the business in the summer. I would be delighted to be proven wrong of course and maybe that's just the natural cautiousness I have within me re Galway football teams. But I have major doubts as to how we will fare defensively in championship football. Time will tell.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 26, 2020, 10:38:51 AM
Savage amount of Galway posts in here of late , deny the giddiness if ya wish but Joyce has really put belief back into Galway football , I’m starting to think gawd no please no .
Now Larry, no need to be getting excited, it's the same few Galway posters and most of us have been around here a long while at this stage!  Galway were very poor last year so a new manager in with a good start to the league will always give a bit of a bounce - probably a little extra bounce on this occasion as PJ has a pretty elevated standing in GAA circles based on his playing career and is somewhat media friendly (so far anyway!).

As with most teams, right now we are a good bit short of matching the Dubs come the Summer but sure all we can try and do is close the gap and see where it takes us - isn't that what the rest of us are all trying to do anyway!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 26, 2020, 11:23:55 AM
Savage amount of Galway posts in here of late , deny the giddiness if ya wish but Joyce has really put belief back into Galway football , I’m starting to think gawd no please no .
I may as well add another post to the pile so!
The very early in the week Tuesday night team announcements is definitely contributing to the extra posts, there's something concrete for Galway supporters to discuss midweek and PJ has not been naming dummy teams either, he has stated flat out that if you don't train Tuesday you don't play Sunday.
As other Galway posters have said there's no need for too much excitement yet, it's only the end of February and anyone who is going to the matches can see that there are plenty of problems/issues still to be resolved.
One thing that can't be denied is that Galway are great to watch at the moment, PJ has the team playing a very attractive brand of football, how they go later on in high summer playing this way still remains to be seen.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 26, 2020, 11:47:49 AM
Even the dogs in Galway * could appreciate the ability to play football at current levels was always there, deficiencies were mainly due to managerial dysfunction, ineptness. This "renaissance" is no big surprise.

* Assuming Galway dogs are just as smart as the dogs allegedly are along the border.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Manning18 on February 26, 2020, 12:07:11 PM
Savage amount of Galway posts in here of late , deny the giddiness if ya wish but Joyce has really put belief back into Galway football , I’m starting to think gawd no please no .

We don't have a Willie Joe blog with 700 hysterical posts every time McLaughlin misses a free, so the commentary tends to get congregated here. Should probably be a specific Galway thread. Can freely discuss player and benefactor indiscretions here at least :p
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on February 26, 2020, 01:20:11 PM
On current form you’d expect Galway to be a top 3/4 team , how close they are to winning an all ireland is yet to be proven . Is their championship peak similar to Gaelic grounds last summer or has it improved , again we will have to wait to see .Me pointing out the obvious that they are two different worlds playing Kerry in feb down in killlarney and playing Kerry in July down in Killarney is just too obvious , we are all aware of that but are Galways defensive players good enough to limit the likes of Clifford and o se or o Callaghan and Mannion in the height of championship football , do they have defenders of that quality . They can push any narrative they want about mayos failure to land Sam but players like Barrett , Higgins , Boyler, keegan , paddy D were (one or two still are) savage defenders , rolls Royce athleticism. I’m not convinced Galway have that bite as of yet .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: moysider on February 26, 2020, 02:16:18 PM
You only have to be best any given year so yeah it could be that Galway are coming good at the right time. The Mayo team is gone and I think Dublin have levelled off and may even be in decline. I think we will have new champions this year. Most likely it will be Kerry but Galway could well be in the right place at the right time again.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 26, 2020, 02:39:54 PM
You only have to be best any given year so yeah it could be that Galway are coming good at the right time. The Mayo team is gone and I think Dublin have levelled off and may even be in decline. I think we will have new champions this year. Most likely it will be Kerry but Galway could well be in the right place at the right time again.

Based on league form or change of manager? A bold prediction in upcoming championship that will be Dublin's All Ireland to lose once more.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 26, 2020, 02:50:03 PM
I know they have no points on the board but I think this is a very tricky game for us - especially immediately after Tyrone given the margin of victory.
One thing that is evident - we need to do something about our own kick outs.

Galway have no win in 40 years in Navan apparently so it's not a happy hunting ground!
It's a stat that should have been put to bed in 2017 however when Galway somehow contrived to lose by a point despite being a good bit the better team in the second half, Danny Cummins missed a tap in goal chance when Galway were three up, Meath goaled near the end to win.

Think it's definitely a potential trap game for Galway. Meath have been playing a bit better of late. Very unlucky to lose to Mayo and gave Kerry a good game down in Killarney. Plus Navan is one of those random grounds where Galway always seem to lose. Even when they play relatively well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 26, 2020, 03:12:01 PM
A lot of talk and hype around Donegal this time last year too, the media love getting carried away. The football has been great so far though and I like everyone else have really enjoyed the games.

PJ is practically building a new back line, Gleeson is new to the panel as is Mulkerrin; Heaney & Sean Kelly are playing in new positions and McDaid missed the vast majority of his 1st through injury. He's had limited time with the players so would imagine he's spent that on changing the style of play, would like to think he'll spend more time on the kick outs and the defensive aspect once the league is finished.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on February 26, 2020, 03:22:37 PM
A lot of talk and hype around Donegal this time last year too, the media love getting carried away.

You must be getting the years mixed up. This time last year Donegal were in division 2 and lost 2 of their 4 games to Fermanagh and Tipperary.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 26, 2020, 03:55:16 PM
A lot of talk and hype around Donegal this time last year too, the media love getting carried away.

You must be getting the years mixed up. This time last year Donegal were in division 2 and lost 2 of their 4 games to Fermanagh and Tipperary.

At the beginning of the championship after beating Tyrone then, plenty of talk around Donegal challenging for an All Ireland.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: J70 on February 26, 2020, 04:54:43 PM
A lot of talk and hype around Donegal this time last year too, the media love getting carried away.

You must be getting the years mixed up. This time last year Donegal were in division 2 and lost 2 of their 4 games to Fermanagh and Tipperary.

At the beginning of the championship after beating Tyrone then, plenty of talk around Donegal challenging for an All Ireland.

“Challenging” is a loose term.

Dublin were never anything other then the most raging hot of odds-on favourites.

But, we could have made a semi or final (where we would have lost) had we not had the (for us) Herculean task of Mayo, who always physically bully the f**k out of us, in Castlebar.

I would place us in the “lots of potential, but still a lot to prove against the very top teams” column. We’ll probably be favourites to win Ulster if we get past Tyrone, but below the Kerry and Galway tier after that.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: greatpoint on February 26, 2020, 05:22:57 PM
A lot of talk and hype around Donegal this time last year too, the media love getting carried away.

You must be getting the years mixed up. This time last year Donegal were in division 2 and lost 2 of their 4 games to Fermanagh and Tipperary.

At the beginning of the championship after beating Tyrone then, plenty of talk around Donegal challenging for an All Ireland.

So you mean last June instead of last February when you say this time last year. That’s a novel take on the calendar.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 26, 2020, 05:43:46 PM
A lot of talk and hype around Donegal this time last year too, the media love getting carried away.

You must be getting the years mixed up. This time last year Donegal were in division 2 and lost 2 of their 4 games to Fermanagh and Tipperary.

At the beginning of the championship after beating Tyrone then, plenty of talk around Donegal challenging for an All Ireland.

“Challenging” is a loose term.

Dublin were never anything other then the most raging hot of odds-on favourites.

But, we could have made a semi or final (where we would have lost) had we not had the (for us) Herculean task of Mayo, who always physically bully the f**k out of us, in Castlebar.

I would place us in the “lots of potential, but still a lot to prove against the very top teams” column. We’ll probably be favourites to win Ulster if we get past Tyrone, but below the Kerry and Galway tier after that.
"probably" is also a loose term.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: imtommygunn on February 26, 2020, 06:23:27 PM
It’s early days for Galway. Great to see them playing football again but they still have it all to prove in the championship.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: galwayman on February 26, 2020, 06:55:45 PM
It’s early days for Galway. Great to see them playing football again but they still have it all to prove in the championship.
100%
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: mouview on February 26, 2020, 07:52:12 PM
Savage amount of Galway posts in here of late , deny the giddiness if ya wish but Joyce has really put belief back into Galway football , I’m starting to think gawd no please no .

We're Fancy Dans and we'll get carried away with our own hype when we feel like it. So we will.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on February 26, 2020, 10:53:23 PM
James Horan was on mayo news podcast today, He cleared up a few things for us supporters listening to rumours. McDonagh is still with the panel , Gary Boylan was released last week , Jason doc is back running , Ruane is only a couple of weeks away and Oisín Mullen will not be visiting Australia this summer .

Overall he came across very well but he’s certainly in rebuilding mode imo , seems very impressed with the academy structures , back room team and chairman to boot. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Aaron Boone on February 26, 2020, 11:47:52 PM
Galway tick all the boxes, play great football.  The National League to stay in the West for me.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: From the Bunker on February 27, 2020, 01:59:47 AM
Galway tick all the boxes, play great football.  The National League to stay in the West for me.

No All Ireland medals are handed out in January, February or March.

That is, unless you are Galway and you win the 1925 All Ireland in January 1926.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: mouview on February 27, 2020, 02:11:27 PM
Galway tick all the boxes, play great football.  The National League to stay in the West for me.

No All Ireland medals are handed out in January, February or March.

That is, unless you are Galway and you win the 1925 All Ireland in January 1926.

Come on, ye're not still sore over that one are ye?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1925_All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: joemamas on February 27, 2020, 02:23:57 PM
James Horan was on mayo news podcast today, He cleared up a few things for us supporters listening to rumours. McDonagh is still with the panel , Gary Boylan was released last week , Jason doc is back running , Ruane is only a couple of weeks away and Oisín Mullen will not be visiting Australia this summer .

Overall he came across very well but he’s certainly in rebuilding mode imo , seems very impressed with the academy structures , back room team and chairman to boot.

Thank you for that update.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 27, 2020, 06:07:07 PM
Any particular reason why TG4 have not yet announced sunday's live and deferred coverage?

I guess with a bias towards the gaetacht areas, it's Galway in the hurling and Donegal in the football.
 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: skeog on February 27, 2020, 06:23:46 PM
Jorge?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Eire90 on February 27, 2020, 06:34:29 PM
if galway win league they capable of winning championship
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Ball Hopper on February 27, 2020, 07:01:55 PM
Any particular reason why TG4 have not yet announced sunday's live and deferred coverage?

I guess with a bias towards the gaetacht areas, it's Galway in the hurling and Donegal in the football.

GAAGO has Sunday games Donegal/Monaghan plus hurling Tipp/Waterford and Cork/Galway...I presume all 3 are TG4 presentations.

EirSport have the Saturday football ties Tyrone/Dublin and Mayo/Kerry.

Had a few issues with GAAGO early in the season and sent them an email - they were quick to reply saying watch GAAGO on Google Chrome for best quality (including being able to move forward and backward without any delay).
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Main Street on February 27, 2020, 07:47:17 PM
Any particular reason why TG4 have not yet announced sunday's live and deferred coverage?

I guess with a bias towards the gaetacht areas, it's Galway in the hurling and Donegal in the football.

GAAGO has Sunday games Donegal/Monaghan plus hurling Tipp/Waterford and Cork/Galway...I presume all 3 are TG4 presentations.

EirSport have the Saturday football ties Tyrone/Dublin and Mayo/Kerry.

Had a few issues with GAAGO early in the season and sent them an email - they were quick to reply saying watch GAAGO on Google Chrome for best quality (including being able to move forward and backward without any delay).
I see Eirsport have a very supporter concious schedule, with both games starting at a similar time, the viewer is able decide which game to view first  and which to defer.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 27, 2020, 09:35:38 PM
Will the Mayo v Kerry game go ahead with the promised storm?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Lar Naparka on February 28, 2020, 07:15:31 PM
Will the Mayo v Kerry game go ahead with the promised storm?
I'd be very surprised if it does. I'm in Sligo at the moment (7 pm) and there has just been a red alert warning for Clare and Galway for 12 hours so Mayo so Mayo can't be far behind. The it The locals here tell me they expect to get the red alert later tonight so Castlebar will get hammered tomorrow morning.
Can't see the pitch being playable.








Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on February 28, 2020, 08:26:09 PM

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: larryin89 on February 29, 2020, 09:02:21 AM
Thunder in disgrace we don't know if the game in castlebar goes ahead yet .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Rossfan on February 29, 2020, 10:37:25 AM
Off till tomorrow I hear.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: bucko on February 29, 2020, 10:50:47 AM
Rescheduled for 1pm tomorrow on the Mayo GAA Twitter feed.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on February 29, 2020, 02:21:45 PM
Rescheduled for 1pm tomorrow on the Mayo GAA Twitter feed.

Mayo should do the decent thing and offer to play the game in Limerick tomorrow. Four of us travelled up from Listowel this morning. A decision on game should of been made sooner.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: giveballaghback on February 29, 2020, 02:31:44 PM
Rescheduled for 1pm tomorrow on the Mayo GAA Twitter feed.

Mayo should do the decent thing and offer to play the game in Limerick tomorrow. Four of us travelled up from Listowel this morning. A decision on game should of been made sooner.

 ??? :-\ ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: From the Bunker on February 29, 2020, 02:33:04 PM
Rescheduled for 1pm tomorrow on the Mayo GAA Twitter feed.

Mayo should do the decent thing and offer to play the game in Limerick tomorrow. Four of us travelled up from Listowel this morning. A decision on game should of been made sooner.

How is the pitch in Limerick? Would you have the game before or after the Limerick Hurling game v Westmeath tomorrow?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Armagh18 on February 29, 2020, 03:10:57 PM
What are RTE going to show now instead?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Blowitupref on February 29, 2020, 03:16:18 PM
What are RTE going to show now instead?
Tyrone v Dublin if playable.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on February 29, 2020, 03:41:06 PM
Rescheduled for 1pm tomorrow on the Mayo GAA Twitter feed.

Mayo should do the decent thing and offer to play the game in Limerick tomorrow. Four of us travelled up from Listowel this morning. A decision on game should of been made sooner.

How is the pitch in Limerick? Would you have the game before or after the Limerick Hurling game v Westmeath tomorrow?

Play in Rathkeale or Claughan then.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: From the Bunker on February 29, 2020, 04:39:56 PM
Rescheduled for 1pm tomorrow on the Mayo GAA Twitter feed.

Mayo should do the decent thing and offer to play the game in Limerick tomorrow. Four of us travelled up from Listowel this morning. A decision on game should of been made sooner.

How is the pitch in Limerick? Would you have the game before or after the Limerick Hurling game v Westmeath tomorrow?

Play in Rathkeale or Claughan then.

How are those venues for access, parking, Public toilets? Do they have a Stand? Maybe it might be an idea to play the game in Killarney? Would suit Mayo, we always beat ye down there in the League!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 29, 2020, 04:56:26 PM
Rescheduled for 1pm tomorrow on the Mayo GAA Twitter feed.

Mayo should do the decent thing and offer to play the game in Limerick tomorrow. Four of us travelled up from Listowel this morning. A decision on game should of been made sooner.

 ??? :-\ ;D ;D ;D

Indeed, I laughed out loud myself.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 - 2020
Post by: Kingdom37 on February 29, 2020, 05:06:13 PM