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Title: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on October 18, 2019, 12:33:53 PM
Anybody have a list of our provisional fixtures for the upcoming Div 2 after Xmas ?
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: les Antiques on October 18, 2019, 02:20:01 PM
Just heard Roscommon away in the first match .
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Heshs Umpire on October 18, 2019, 02:41:14 PM
Proposed League schedule:

26 Jan v Roscommon (A);
1 Feb v Armagh (H);
9 Feb v Cavan (H);
23 Feb v Clare (A);
29 Feb v Kildare (H);
15 Mar v Westmeath (A);
22 Mar v Fermanagh (A).
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: maddog on October 18, 2019, 02:51:16 PM
Anyone have the Armagh or Roscommon fixtures. Going to this game whatever the venue :o
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Jd on October 18, 2019, 03:04:03 PM
Just looking at the teams in it we havenít a whole lot to be afraid of. Most of them teams would be of a similar standard to ourselves and we have beaten most of them in different competitions over the past 3or 4 years. Canít see us being relegated anyway
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: The PRO on October 18, 2019, 03:18:35 PM
Just looking at the teams in it we havenít a whole lot to be afraid of. Most of them teams would be of a similar standard to ourselves and we have beaten most of them in different competitions over the past 3or 4 years. Canít see us being relegated anyway
I dunno. I think what might have been the more "winnable" games are away. Can't see us getting anything in The Hyde so a home win v Armagh will be vital.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Chrimtain on October 19, 2019, 09:54:07 PM
I think  based on the new rule changes, I am right in saying that we need to find a big target man.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: The PRO on October 19, 2019, 10:03:22 PM
I think  based on the new rule changes, I am right in saying that we need to find a big target man.
Big Dan is the man...
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on October 19, 2019, 10:46:13 PM
D Kingston and OCarroll are our main target men if thatís what this new rule is all about so .
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on October 19, 2019, 11:28:00 PM
a simply disastrous set of fixtures, cannot see a home win coming....and if we end up bottom two, does this drop us to tier 2 of the championship?
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on October 19, 2019, 11:39:01 PM
a simply disastrous set of fixtures, cannot see a home win coming....and if we end up bottom two, does this drop us to tier 2 of the championship?
Yes it will drop us to tier 2 , unless we get to a Leinster final which would allow us to compete in tier 1
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Joeythelips on October 21, 2019, 09:31:20 AM
a simply disastrous set of fixtures, cannot see a home win coming....and if we end up bottom two, does this drop us to tier 2 of the championship?
Yes it will drop us to tier 2 , unless we get to a Leinster final which would allow us to compete in tier 1

Hardly a disastrous set of fixtures, all the teams are of a similar standard imo. Surely if we are good enough we could beat the likes of Westmeath, Fermanagh or Cavan.

Im no fan of the tier 2 stuff but if Laois cannot stay in that division or get to a Leinster final then they do not deserve to compete at that level.

The new ruling will mean this will be the most competitive league season of all time.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on October 21, 2019, 10:32:57 AM
a simply disastrous set of fixtures, cannot see a home win coming....and if we end up bottom two, does this drop us to tier 2 of the championship?
Yes it will drop us to tier 2 , unless we get to a Leinster final which would allow us to compete in tier 1

Hardly a disastrous set of fixtures, all the teams are of a similar standard imo. Surely if we are good enough we could beat the likes of Westmeath, Fermanagh or Cavan.

Im no fan of the tier 2 stuff but if Laois cannot stay in that division or get to a Leinster final then they do not deserve to compete at that level.

The new ruling will mean this will be the most competitive league season of all time.
Not an easy set of fixtures at the same time . Cavan just down from division 1 and last time we played Fermanagh up there 3 years ago we were beaten by 10 or 12 points I think . Westmeath and ourselves are up from division 3 this year and Iíd say would be a similar level to ourselves judging by previous results and what Iíve seen of them . Really looking foward to it all kicking off .
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: blueandwhite1 on October 22, 2019, 01:38:16 PM
a simply disastrous set of fixtures, cannot see a home win coming....and if we end up bottom two, does this drop us to tier 2 of the championship?
Yes it will drop us to tier 2 , unless we get to a Leinster final which would allow us to compete in tier 1

Hardly a disastrous set of fixtures, all the teams are of a similar standard imo. Surely if we are good enough we could beat the likes of Westmeath, Fermanagh or Cavan.

Im no fan of the tier 2 stuff but if Laois cannot stay in that division or get to a Leinster final then they do not deserve to compete at that level.

The new ruling will mean this will be the most competitive league season of all time.

- Any team could beat another but it will be ferocious. It will be ultra competitive, maybe more important than the championship. It forces players to have to train at full tilt in the miseries of an Irish winter and play well in February-April. Shows how broken it is. The sooner we have one 4-5 month inter-county season that runs through the summer months the better. Some dose to be facing a winter in the muck-and-shite and maybe getting relegated to division 3 all the same.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Laois fan on October 22, 2019, 03:22:05 PM
Also means well have to put alot stronger teams out in o byrne cup to get players match ready,and hopefully if donie is committing we will need him back earlier this year
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on October 22, 2019, 03:27:56 PM
Also means well have to put alot stronger teams out in o byrne cup to get players match ready,and hopefully if donie is committing we will need him back earlier this year
Anyone know if Donie,Munnelly ,Timmons are commiting ? I think Attride could be going abroad
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: thegreeenandgold on October 22, 2019, 04:21:35 PM
Munnelly yes to returning once again the others donít think so. Attride I think your correct there will be more defections.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: SCFC on October 22, 2019, 04:32:05 PM
The sooner we have one 4-5 month inter-county season that runs through the summer months the better.
That would kill the clubs though. It's bad enough trying to keep club teams going as it is but try telling your senior team that they have no games from April to August and you wouldn't be able to print the Aer Lingus boarding passes quickly enough.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on October 22, 2019, 04:33:05 PM
Munnelly yes to returning once again the others donít think so. Attride I think your correct there will be more defections.
If your correct about Donie and Timmons we could be in for a tough year . Attride a big loss out of a backline thatís in a transition period with new players like Robert Pigott, Paddy OSullivan etc
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: blueandwhite1 on October 22, 2019, 04:51:35 PM
The sooner we have one 4-5 month inter-county season that runs through the summer months the better.
That would kill the clubs though. It's bad enough trying to keep club teams going as it is but try telling your senior team that they have no games from April to August and you wouldn't be able to print the Aer Lingus boarding passes quickly enough.

Intercounty season - April-July inclusive (4 months). Start training in January.
Club league season - April-July. No intercounty players. Start training whenever.
Club championship season - August, September, October.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: SCFC on October 22, 2019, 09:41:50 PM
Ah look, I know what you're aiming at. But league and All Ireland packed into 4 months ending in July? GPA wouldn't have it.
There's no real solution to the club v county issue. Greater minds than you and I cannot solve it. The April club month isn't the answer either.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Solo_run on October 22, 2019, 10:05:42 PM
Anyone have the Armagh or Roscommon fixtures. Going to this game whatever the venue :o

It's at the Athletic Grounds apparently
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: les Antiques on October 22, 2019, 11:49:31 PM
I hear there is quite a few non committals going into the new campaign which is disappointing but understanding at the same time .
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on October 22, 2019, 11:59:40 PM
I hear there is quite a few non committals going into the new campaign which is disappointing but understanding at the same time .
Could u confirm any names ?
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on October 23, 2019, 01:34:31 AM
I hear there is quite a few non committals going into the new campaign which is disappointing but understanding at the same time .
Could u confirm any names ?

There won't be too many leaving according to this article..

New addition to Laois senior football management as former Killeshin boss named selector
https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/10/22/new-addition-to-laois-senior-football-management-as-former-killeshin-boss-named-selector/
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: thegreeenandgold on October 23, 2019, 06:45:41 AM
Letís see and you can slate me if I am wrong I would expect 4-5 defections from last years panel. 
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: blueandwhite1 on October 23, 2019, 09:26:29 AM
It is completely natural and probably desirable that some lads move on. Quite a few of them have soldiered for years for the county, gave great service, but probably don't have the legs for it anymore. Our biggest challenge will be whether the quality coming through will be able to step up. This has been coming for years though. We are living off that 2007 U-21 team for 12 years now.

Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: High Fielder on October 23, 2019, 09:49:36 AM
Let's not pretend everything is rosy here. The players invested in Sugrue and that investment was bearing fruit. The CB might be happy enough to hit Reset, but a lot of us, including some of the players, are still very unhappy about the whole affair.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: blueandwhite1 on October 23, 2019, 09:51:48 AM
Let's not pretend everything is rosy here. The players invested in Sugrue and that investment was bearing fruit. The CB might be happy enough to hit Reset, but a lot of us, including some of the players, are still very unhappy about the whole affair.

So what would you suggest exactly?
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: High Fielder on October 23, 2019, 09:58:39 AM
Nothing. What happened happened. But harm was done and if players depart because of it, I would absolutely understand. It was hard enough for supporters to swallow. These lads worked closely with Sugrue and you can't just throw two good years down the drain. For all they and we know, Quirke could be a dud. It's not easy being asked to buy into new ideas when you were perfectly happy with what you had.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on October 24, 2019, 10:59:06 AM
Confirmation this morning on social media that Stephen Attride is in Australia for the season .
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: les Antiques on October 24, 2019, 03:21:19 PM
The Sugrue departure has a left a sour taste among some of the players.  He had a great representation from Portlaoise the past two years . It will remain to be seem whether the same number will make themselves available.
I don't think Donie is committing this year .
Anyway onwards and upwards Division 2 will be a minefield especially for what's at stake .
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Butch Cassidy on October 24, 2019, 05:01:00 PM
Quirke is friendly with Sugrue and spoke with him before taking the job. If Sugrues departure ended on a sour note dont you think he would have said it to Quirke?
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: The Monument Road on October 24, 2019, 05:29:51 PM
I have a view on why Sugrue left...Some players did inform him they were packing it in and he then decided to quit. I think Donie was one of them. A few other younger lads are travelling. All the signs are for bleak period ahead in afraid
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 24, 2019, 05:41:53 PM
I have a view on why Sugrue left...Some players did inform him they were packing it in and he then decided to quit. I think Donie was one of them. A few other younger lads are travelling. All the signs are for bleak period ahead in afraid

Don't know if what you are saying is true about Sugrue but I do tend to agree with you that we have a difficult season coming. With how small our resources are in this county, we really can't afford to go into Division 2 without our captain, Stephen Attride, and our best forward for the last number of years, Donie Kingston.

There will be opportunities for some of the young lads now, but they might take a while to get used to senior inter-county football. It would be a pleasant surprise if we were to avoid relegation in Division 2.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: High Fielder on October 24, 2019, 06:03:01 PM
Quirke is friendly with Sugrue and spoke with him before taking the job. If Sugrues departure ended on a sour note dont you think he would have said it to Quirke?

He probably did, but maybe he decided to take it anyway. Unlike Sugrue, I doubt he was in demand, and I say that with all due respect.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: High Fielder on October 24, 2019, 06:11:37 PM
I have a view on why Sugrue left...Some players did inform him they were packing it in and he then decided to quit. I think Donie was one of them. A few other younger lads are travelling. All the signs are for bleak period ahead in afraid

Don't know if what you are saying is true about Sugrue but I do tend to agree with you that we have a difficult season coming. With how small our resources are in this county, we really can't afford to go into Division 2 without our captain, Stephen Attride, and our best forward for the last number of years, Donie Kingston.

There will be opportunities for some of the young lads now, but they might take a while to get used to senior inter-county football. It would be a pleasant surprise if we were to avoid relegation in Division 2.

It doesn't look good does it? Your captain and best forward walking away? On the back of successive promotions as well. It asks more questions about what really happened with Sugrue. But perhaps more importantly, it makes you wonder about the point of it all. I can always understand when the disaffected or marginalised walk away, but we seem to be doing a head count before the start of every season. And you can't blame lads in fairness. It's a tough gig, and between your career and family, there's more to life than the GAA.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on October 24, 2019, 06:52:25 PM
I have a view on why Sugrue left...Some players did inform him they were packing it in and he then decided to quit. I think Donie was one of them. A few other younger lads are travelling. All the signs are for bleak period ahead in afraid
Would u have any more info on who else is traveling ??
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: welcomehome on October 24, 2019, 06:57:50 PM
Did donie not do the same last year with sugrue..
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on October 26, 2019, 01:39:56 AM
Did donie not do the same last year with sugrue..
He did, he was playing a lot of basketball last year, not sure what he's at this year..
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Jd on October 26, 2019, 01:02:56 PM
I think Attride has put in a good few years with Laois already and to classify it as walking away is unfair on the lad. Heís young and probably has a few bob saved to go traveling and has decided to get it done before he gets older and life (marriage kids mortgage etc)  takes over. His commitment is never in doubt so a break is well deserved. I donít know much about Donie but he seems like a lad who can take or leave it. An enormous talent and I always said he could be our Michael Murphy if he had applied himself the same way. Alas he hasnít and weíll never see what he should have been so maybe we should just move on without him and hopefully Evan blossoms into the super footballer he can be.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: les Antiques on October 26, 2019, 03:36:47 PM
The emergence of Murphy from Port last year on the inter county scene can lessen the damage of Donie s absence .
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on October 26, 2019, 04:22:07 PM
The emergence of Murphy from Port last year on the inter county scene can lessen the damage of Donie s absence .
Thereís no one in Laois capable of filling the boots of an on form Donie. Was unplayable on his day .
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: les Antiques on October 26, 2019, 04:31:24 PM
The emergence of Murphy from Port last year on the inter county scene can lessen the damage of Donie s absence .
Thereís no one in Laois capable of filling the boots of an on form Donie. Was unplayable on his day .

Where did I say Murphy was going to replace Donie s boots ?
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: High Fielder on October 26, 2019, 09:25:45 PM
I have a view on why Sugrue left...Some players did inform him they were packing it in and he then decided to quit. I think Donie was one of them. A few other younger lads are travelling. All the signs are for bleak period ahead in afraid

Don't know if what you are saying is true about Sugrue but I do tend to agree with you that we have a difficult season coming. With how small our resources are in this county, we really can't afford to go into Division 2 without our captain, Stephen Attride, and our best forward for the last number of years, Donie Kingston.

There will be opportunities for some of the young lads now, but they might take a while to get used to senior inter-county football. It would be a pleasant surprise if we were to avoid relegation in Division 2.

Don't mistake what I said for criticism. It's his life and he must do whatever is best for him. He's not under contract or any other obligation, but he is captain, and it wouldn't be normal for the captain to walk away. I'm sure it has happened before, particularly in counties like Laois, but it's still not ideal.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: High Fielder on October 26, 2019, 09:29:09 PM
The emergence of Murphy from Port last year on the inter county scene can lessen the damage of Donie s absence .
Thereís no one in Laois capable of filling the boots of an on form Donie. Was unplayable on his day .

Agree 100 %. He was the only player Cork struggled with. At his best, he is miles ahead of every other forward in Laois.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 26, 2019, 10:42:19 PM
Hopefully a few of last year's older U-20's step up and prove they belong at this level. Robert Tyrell and Eoin Dunne will hopefully bring freshness to an area that Laois have struggled with in recent times, at midfield.

Diarmuid Whelan had a great year with the U-20's last year as well and has physically bulked up. A full-forward line of Whelan, O'Carroll and Murphy could be interesting to see in action.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Chrimtain on October 27, 2019, 01:55:27 PM
The emergence of Murphy from Port last year on the inter county scene can lessen the damage of Donie s absence .
Thereís no one in Laois capable of filling the boots of an on form Donie. Was unplayable on his day .

Agree 100 %. He was the only player Cork struggled with. At his best, he is miles ahead of every other forward in Laois.

And, thre is no point having someone who is not fully committed.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: The PRO on October 30, 2019, 06:06:30 PM
Hopefully a few of last year's older U-20's step up and prove they belong at this level. Robert Tyrell and Eoin Dunne will hopefully bring freshness to an area that Laois have struggled with in recent times, at midfield.

Diarmuid Whelan had a great year with the U-20's last year as well and has physically bulked up. A full-forward line of Whelan, O'Carroll and Murphy could be interesting to see in action.
No idea who will or won't commit but we need to find some decent defenders. Corner backs in particular. I can see Saunders and O'Flynn playing if committed. Maybe Lacey of Ballylinan too.
Up front Whelan looks the part and maybe Kinsella and Barry will figure too.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Joeythelips on October 31, 2019, 10:55:40 AM
The emergence of Murphy from Port last year on the inter county scene can lessen the damage of Donie s absence .
Thereís no one in Laois capable of filling the boots of an on form Donie. Was unplayable on his day .

Agree 100 %. He was the only player Cork struggled with. At his best, he is miles ahead of every other forward in Laois.

Donie reminds me of Paul Pogba for Man United, he occasionally shows glimpses that he can do things others cannot (very occasionally in Pogbas case) and we can see the talent is there but its demonstrated too fleetingly.  If he applied himself better he could easily be in the same bracket as Michael Murphy but until he does he will just be talked about on forums and on barstools of what he could have been imo.

Some of Laois best ever players were not necessarily the most skilful but the ones who applied themselves to being the best players they could be. Tom Kelly is a great example, he was not even the most skilful footballer in his own family and the year before Micko came along he was playing full back yet next year he wins an All star at centre back.

he also has an affect on the squad, everyone knows how talented he is but if he is not putting in the same shifts in training it can have a negative effect, something Sugrue seems to have tried to change.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Chrimtain on October 31, 2019, 11:31:30 AM
If Mark Timmons does go, who are his possible replacements?
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: High Fielder on October 31, 2019, 12:51:28 PM
If Mark Timmons does go, who are his possible replacements?
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So far, nobody has stepped up to the mark. The same can be said of a number of positions on the field. People throw around names, mostly young lads, who have played in a position and did a good job on underage teams. But senior county football is worlds away from all that. Therefore, you either take the risk on the young lad you hope will develop, or, try and develop a player for a position like McNulty did with Meaney. Both options carry a fair amount of risk.

I have seen names being thrown around on here like they have already made it. Some are not doing enough for their club team to warrant the sort of praise being heaped on them. The exceptions tend to be instantly identifiable, but even O'Flynn had tough days with the Seniors last year. The potential was obvious though, and we haven't many like him.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: The Boy Wonder on October 31, 2019, 04:07:37 PM
Re. views on Donie above - in my opinion his languid style can sometimes give the misleading impression that he's not going flat out.
Hopefully he will be available next year as his absence would be a massive loss.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on October 31, 2019, 05:11:57 PM
If Mark Timmons does go, who are his possible replacements?
Thereís loads of potential lads that can be thrown in to replace Timmons . Sure we have well over a hundred lads taking part in the divisional matches. But how many are good enough to stand in with Number 3 on their back and hold their own at senior inter county division 2 standard ? Iíve seen no one anyway up to that mark . You might get away In division 4 and maybe 3 but all your weaknesses will be shown up against better teams and thatís what potentially awaits us in division 2.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Jd on October 31, 2019, 08:59:51 PM
I think Young Nerney is a good chap who got thrown in at the deep end as a very young lad and struggled a bit but will develop as he gets older. Halloran from courtwood looked good during the championship this year and seems to be a big fit fella who might do a job too
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on October 31, 2019, 10:07:28 PM
Sean Byrne or Jason Moore might be worth a shot there if they were stuck for personnel.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: High Fielder on November 01, 2019, 10:27:28 AM
I think Young Nerney is a good chap who got thrown in at the deep end as a very young lad and struggled a bit but will develop as he gets older. Halloran from courtwood looked good during the championship this year and seems to be a big fit fella who might do a job too

Nerney is a good example of the mess created by Sugrue's departure. He looks like a half decent player, but he got destroyed in Croke Park against Louth, and I'm sure he was benefiting from being around the panel. We're back to square one now and who knows how the change will affect him.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on November 01, 2019, 11:16:52 AM
I think Young Nerney is a good chap who got thrown in at the deep end as a very young lad and struggled a bit but will develop as he gets older. Halloran from courtwood looked good during the championship this year and seems to be a big fit fella who might do a job too

Nerney is a good example of the mess created by Sugrue's departure. He looks like a half decent player, but he got destroyed in Croke Park against Louth, and I'm sure he was benefiting from being around the panel. We're back to square one now and who knows how the change will affect him.
Like I said before the cream should always rise to the top. If a player is good enough they should eventually come through ,if not well then tough luck. Sugrue going shouldnít have a huge effect on a young player . Players need to be able to take responsibility for their own lives and own dedication to football . You canít always be expecting a manager to spoon feed you.
Long story short , anyone that got a look in with Sugrue should be back again for another bite if they are interested enough and good enough . Just cause Sugrue goes dosent mean you should be at a disadvantage. Itís just the start of a new chapter .
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: High Fielder on November 01, 2019, 11:31:35 AM
Bullshit. You can't just wash your hands of a very good man. New chapter me hole. This sort of talk is unrealistic and fanciful. We can't afford to sleepwalk out of a successful period, lose players and a good manager, and expect everything to go on as normal. I wouldn't want to be disrespectful to some players, but some of them are nowhere near good enough. It's hard to make that point without naming names, and I won't do that. But just because you're on a panel does not necessarily mean you can contribute to it.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on November 01, 2019, 11:38:16 AM
All the guys that were tried under Sugrue but didnít nail down a place: Buggie , James Kelly, C Fennell, Crowley, Luttrell, Daly, Tyrell, S Byrne, Barry, D Whelan, Evan Lowry, Holland , C Finn, Aaron Dowling, Kinsella, M Keogh,A Farrell .Thatís only some of them. My point is Sugrue gave most of them their chance but were only on the fringes of the team . Sugrue going shouldnt mean they wonít get another chance and there will be plenty of opportunities ahead for these lads . I donít agree Sugrues departure is a mess as regards younger players and any of these lads that are good enough will be back. Itís up to themselves really to push on .
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on November 01, 2019, 11:43:11 AM
Bullshit. You can't just wash your hands of a very good man. New chapter me hole. This sort of talk is unrealistic and fanciful. We can't afford to sleepwalk out of a successful period, lose players and a good manager, and expect everything to go on as normal. I wouldn't want to be disrespectful to some players, but some of them are nowhere near good enough. It's hard to make that point without naming names, and I won't do that. But just because you're on a panel does not necessarily mean you can contribute to it.
I know what your saying high fielder . There is a lot of lads on this Panel not good enough but what other choice do we have ? Personally I think if we still had Sugrue as manager we wouldnít survive in division 2 anyway . Look what Meath and Cork done with us ? The only half decent teams we played last year .
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: High Fielder on November 01, 2019, 01:54:44 PM
We fucked up with Sugrue. Somehow. We had momentum and he was a good judge. There are varying reports about who was at fault or the reasons for his departure, but from a purely coaching viewpoint, things were settled. Someone has shown a lack of ambition, and whoever that is has changed our direction. I'm not sure what we're really all about at the moment if we can't seem to motivate ourselves to stay part of a winning set-up.  I find it absurd that good players would get us up to Division 2 and then walk away and hand it over to inferior players. That makes no sense to me at all.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: town1980 on November 02, 2019, 10:22:36 PM
How did we f**k up with surgu.?did he not want to leave ?he Did great work for two years but we didnít f**k up webwanted him to stay HE didnít want to Stay simple  as I respect his decision as I predict a tough div 2 and a painful championship
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: The PRO on November 04, 2019, 03:28:56 PM
Anyone standing out in the divisional championship who Quirke might bring in?
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Unlaoised on November 05, 2019, 03:03:26 PM
Anyone have fixtures for these games yet
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on November 08, 2019, 05:03:20 AM
Anyone standing out in the divisional championship who Quirke might bring in?
https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/11/06/22-players-who-really-impressed-at-the-laois-divisional-football-competition/
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on November 09, 2019, 12:35:59 PM
What do you think of our new jerseys for 2020?




Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Chrimtain on November 09, 2019, 01:56:32 PM
Not particularly impressed. The white hoop should be straight.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: les Antiques on November 09, 2019, 02:02:40 PM
Why should the white hoop be straight ?
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Chrimtain on November 09, 2019, 04:00:23 PM
Why should the white hoop be straight ?

Tradition.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: The Boy Wonder on November 09, 2019, 09:27:24 PM
Why should the white hoop be straight ?

Tradition.

When Laois won the Leinster in 2003 there was no white hoop on the jersey  ;)
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: redsetanta on November 12, 2019, 10:39:09 AM
I would be a traditionalist too and would prefer to see a jersey with the hoop half way down. In these days of commercialism they will change the jerseys every so often and they need to change it somewhat. Still it would be good to see a design at some point that resembles the older jerseys.

Those 2003/2004 jerseys will be a collectors item in years to come. Still have mine packed away somewhere.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 12, 2019, 12:21:42 PM
I liked the new jersey on first view, but the more I look the less I like it.   They have a body warmer feel to them which is awful.  I think I prefer the hoop on reflection.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: The PRO on November 15, 2019, 12:00:57 PM
I see where Gary Brennan and Jamie Malone aren't playing with Clare next year. Should improve our chances of two points a bit in that game anyway. Brennan in particular is a brilliant footballer.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: From the Terrace on November 15, 2019, 01:39:12 PM
Proposed League schedule:

26 Jan v Roscommon (A);
1 Feb v Armagh (H);
9 Feb v Cavan (H);
23 Feb v Clare (A);
29 Feb v Kildare (H);
15 Mar v Westmeath (A);
22 Mar v Fermanagh (A).
Dont expect much from the hyde. Should hopefully get the points vs Armagh. Cavan will be tough but not impossible. Clare should be picking up something. Kildare will be a good judge of two new management teams, would like to think we have a good chance of getting points. Would not like to be needing points going into the last two games, All the same there at our standard. Will be an interesting league campaign.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: les Antiques on November 17, 2019, 10:39:03 AM
I see where Gary Brennan and Jamie Malone aren't playing with Clare next year. Should improve our chances of two points a bit in that game anyway. Brennan in particular is a brilliant footballer.

Also Kieran Martin will be not be part of the Westmeath set up this year .

Saying that it looks increasinnly likely Donie Kingston won't be part of the Laois set up in 2020.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on December 03, 2019, 01:11:12 AM
Here is your National League Fixtures Diary for 2020
https://res.cloudinary.com/dvrbaruzq/image/upload/fl_attachment/hmp0wo7btebuzheq8rsa.pdf

Master Fixtures Booklet 2020
https://res.cloudinary.com/dvrbaruzq/image/upload/fl_attachment/thryoxsb0c0zvkiyvnev.pdf
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Neutralobserver on December 04, 2019, 09:24:42 AM
I see where Gary Brennan and Jamie Malone aren't playing with Clare next year. Should improve our chances of two points a bit in that game anyway. Brennan in particular is a brilliant footballer.

Also Kieran Martin will be not be part of the Westmeath set up this year .

Saying that it looks increasinnly likely Donie Kingston won't be part of the Laois set up in 2020.

whats up with donie? is it just he not committing or has he an injury. big loss if he does not commit
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Batman!!! on December 04, 2019, 09:40:54 AM
He has a condition called laziness
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Laois Rising on December 04, 2019, 01:08:43 PM
Extremely unfair comment to make regarding Donie Kingston. If Kingston wants to take a break from intercounty football then he deserves to do so without comments such as Batman's being thrown at him. He has played almost every year for the county since 2008. That's 11 out of 12 years of service to Laois football.

I think this article sums up why footballer with the talent of Donie Kingston might feel some disillusionment plodding along year after year with little or no chance of success. Hard to continually motivate yourself and give the time and dedication required to play at intercounty level with no meaningful end rewards.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/talented-peers-polarised-by-place-of-birth-37042692.html
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: BallyroanAbu on December 04, 2019, 02:10:46 PM
Extremely unfair comment to make regarding Donie Kingston. If Kingston wants to take a break from intercounty football then he deserves to do so without comments such as Batman's being thrown at him. He has played almost every year for the county since 2008. That's 11 out of 12 years of service to Laois football.

I think this article sums up why footballer with the talent of Donie Kingston might feel some disillusionment plodding along year after year with little or no chance of success. Hard to continually motivate yourself and give the time and dedication required to play at intercounty level with no meaningful end rewards.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/talented-peers-polarised-by-place-of-birth-37042692.html

Agreed Donie and Paul two great servants of Laois,  we were blessed to have them.  There is going to be more deflections soon.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Mad Mentor on December 04, 2019, 02:23:26 PM
Extremely unfair comment to make regarding Donie Kingston. If Kingston wants to take a break from intercounty football then he deserves to do so without comments such as Batman's being thrown at him. He has played almost every year for the county since 2008. That's 11 out of 12 years of service to Laois football.

I think this article sums up why footballer with the talent of Donie Kingston might feel some disillusionment plodding along year after year with little or no chance of success. Hard to continually motivate yourself and give the time and dedication required to play at intercounty level with no meaningful end rewards.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/talented-peers-polarised-by-place-of-birth-37042692.html
Great article.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on December 05, 2019, 09:05:33 AM
The two Kingston brothers confirmed gone from Laois panel for upcoming season. I expected Donie to go but I was surprised that Paul isn't there either. For me, Donie gone from the panel means that Laois are in huge relegation trouble for the league. Not sure we have the scores up front to stay up. Evan O'Carroll will need to step up in a big way this season.

I see on the positive side that Niall Corbet and Garry Comerford are on the panel. Corbet could easily find himself starting as well because Laois desperately need a free taker. Comerford was a player who I was very impressed with when Stradbally won championship in 2016. I imagine he'll have no problems getting up to speed fitness wise due to his last few years playing soccer at a high level.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: ollie12 on December 05, 2019, 10:17:27 AM
Is Gary Walsh back on the panel?
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Neutralobserver on December 05, 2019, 04:53:07 PM
The two Kingston brothers confirmed gone from Laois panel for upcoming season. I expected Donie to go but I was surprised that Paul isn't there either. For me, Donie gone from the panel means that Laois are in huge relegation trouble for the league. Not sure we have the scores up front to stay up. Evan O'Carroll will need to step up in a big way this season.

I see on the positive side that Niall Corbet and Garry Comerford are on the panel. Corbet could easily find himself starting as well because Laois desperately need a free taker. Comerford was a player who I was very impressed with when Stradbally won championship in 2016. I imagine he'll have no problems getting up to speed fitness wise due to his last few years playing soccer at a high level.

Serious loss them two to a small county and will Evan stay injury free
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: Chrimtain on December 05, 2019, 10:17:35 PM
Donie's commitment has been in doubt for the last few years. I think it's time to move on with lads who really want to wear the Jersey.
Title: Re: NFL Div 2 2020
Post by: High Fielder on December 05, 2019, 10:36:48 PM
It's a big commitment and I don't and won't disrespect any lad who wants a break from it. I'd love to see Donie involved because he's out on his own in my opinion. But he's made his choice and he has to do what's right for him. It's nice to see different names coming in. There are opportunities there for those who are capable of stepping up