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Title: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: The Monument Road on October 06, 2019, 11:19:18 AM
Looking at the weekend first round results  I see some alarming results/outcomes..Graiguecullen  conceded...Porylaoise well beaten, Stradbally parish well beaten. It confirms my view that a shift from traditional football strongholds is happening...Is this because these traditional strongholds have or are not doing enough at ground level.Normal hurling strongholds are now coming to the fore in senior adult football. Ballyfinn @ Rosenallis are proving my view..
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 06, 2019, 11:56:55 AM
Portlaoise were missing their few senior lads because of next week and they would have surely made a difference. Still a good win for O'Dempsey's who wouldn't be strong underage.

Portarlington will be the big favourites for this I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Neutralobserver on October 06, 2019, 07:01:14 PM
St Joseph's and emo courtwood wont be to bad either. Run on a group stage this year so bit early to write any one off as yet
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Jd on October 06, 2019, 09:51:16 PM
I think Courtwood  Emo as St. Paul’s would have won at this level all the way up and they have 5 of this years Laois u20 panel so probably won’t be too bad. Port will be very strong too and then Ballyroan I’d imagine.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Batman!!! on October 06, 2019, 09:53:11 PM
No sypkathy for Graiguecullen after their Junior c debacle. Major problems in that club now. When a club with that size put more effort into winning a Junior C title you know they are falling apart
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Laois Rising on October 07, 2019, 02:27:37 PM
In fairness to Graigue they enter their juvenile sides in the A grades and are by and large competitive against mostly amalgamation sides in these A competitions. While there is work to be done in improving their underage structures within the club and fight off the threat of losing players to their friends in the parish Killeshin there are other 'traditional' football strongholds entering teams at B level and really struggling. This is something that needs to be address and Games Development coaches need to be targeting these clubs and providing the required assistance to get the show back up and running in these clubs.   
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Portbush on October 07, 2019, 07:04:36 PM
I think this has the making of a good championship if it’s run right. The main problem is to many teams are amalgamated form year to year you don’t know who’s joining with who. The rock with Paul’s one year next year it was gone. port beat ballyroan well I think ballyroan  barely had a team. to few underage teams and too many senior teams picking from it.this has to have a long term effect
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: BobbyBoucherJr on October 07, 2019, 09:43:48 PM
Portlaoise were missing their few senior lads because of next week and they would have surely made a difference. Still a good win for O'Dempsey's who wouldn't be strong underage.

Portarlington will be the big favourites for this I'd imagine.
Portlaoise missing 6 senior panel members
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: The PRO on October 07, 2019, 10:50:38 PM
Portlaoise were missing their few senior lads because of next week and they would have surely made a difference. Still a good win for O'Dempsey's who wouldn't be strong underage.

Portarlington will be the big favourites for this I'd imagine.
Portlaoise missing 6 senior panel members
Just shows the value of this championship. I suppose it's better than last years under 19 when Portlaoise didn't field at all and the final wasn't ever played..
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on October 09, 2019, 01:42:04 AM
Great lineup this weekend, and all at 4.30...
This is from the OFFICIAL Laois website which seriously needs someone to look after it..  :(


Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Don Draper on October 09, 2019, 12:03:38 PM
Whats wrong with them being at 4.30?
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: The PRO on October 09, 2019, 01:11:35 PM
12-10-2019  16:30  BALLYLINAN V KILLESHIN BALLYLINAN GAA PITCH

12-10-2019  16:30  BALLYLINAN V PARK/RATHENISKA-SPINK BALLYLINAN GAA PITCH  JOE BRENNAN

12-10-2019  16:30  SARSFIELDS GAELS V PARK/RATHENISKA-SPINK

I think this is the problem!! Very bad site

Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 09, 2019, 01:42:55 PM
Don't think any of the teams entering the B championship played last weekend. I'd say there will be a lot of walkovers in this.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on October 11, 2019, 01:58:01 AM
Whats wrong with them being at 4.30?
Nothing if a team could divide itself in two.. Ballylinan have to play two games against two different teams at the same time and venue. Park have the same problem.. Are you sure you're not making out these fixtures Don  :)
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Don Draper on October 11, 2019, 09:29:28 AM
Whats wrong with them being at 4.30?
Nothing if a team could divide itself in two.. Ballylinan have to play two games against two different teams at the same time and venue. Park have the same problem.. Are you sure you're not making out these fixtures Don  :)
I read it that you had a problem with the throw in. I believe the competition is based on being a Friday night one, but of course many clubs dont have the facilities, hence 4.30 throw ins. The biggest issue here will be the timing once again and the sheer lack of interest. Young lads away in college or working weekend jobs, it's going to be a f**king disaster.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Laois fan on October 11, 2019, 11:26:42 AM
Exactly i think players would rather a break now from club football instead of a competition spread over 2 months which is way 2 long,also if you receive a walkover you mighnt play for four weeks which is ridiculous.It needs to be held in feb/march in prep for county 20s and over consecutive weeks with proper fines for walkovers
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: GAA-SMART on October 11, 2019, 10:03:52 PM
Its a good opportunity for a 20s manager to see eligible players to be fair. Rumour is we have one now  !
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Mock on October 11, 2019, 11:23:41 PM
Come on now Gaa-Smart who have ya heard !!!! I hope whoever it is has more experience than the name going around for u-17 management.  These young men need to be developed properly now so as they can progress to senior level and from what I hear money is the biggest factor rather than quality coaches. But as you said it’s only rumour
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: clonadmad on October 12, 2019, 08:13:42 AM
Come on now Gaa-Smart who have ya heard !!!! I hope whoever it is has more experience than the name going around for u-17 management.  These young men need to be developed properly now so as they can progress to senior level and from what I hear money is the biggest factor rather than quality coaches. But as you said it’s only rumour

The 2019 u15 manager has the minor Job.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: thegreeenandgold on October 12, 2019, 08:50:09 AM
Whose he ?

Who got U20 job
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: GAA-SMART on October 12, 2019, 09:05:21 AM
Come on now Gaa-Smart who have ya heard !!!! I hope whoever it is has more experience than the name going around for u-17 management.  These young men need to be developed properly now so as they can progress to senior level and from what I hear money is the biggest factor rather than quality coaches. But as you said it’s only rumour

Who are they paying to do the minor ?  :o

I heard the 20s is Eddie Kinsella but until anyone is confirmed, who knows.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Neutralobserver on October 12, 2019, 09:45:29 AM
Exactly i think players would rather a break now from club football instead of a competition spread over 2 months which is way 2 long,also if you receive a walkover you mighnt play for four weeks which is ridiculous.It needs to be held in feb/march in prep for county 20s and over consecutive weeks with proper fines for walkovers

And I presume none of these players will be made available for the regional games.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: GAA-SMART on October 12, 2019, 02:10:34 PM
Come on now Gaa-Smart who have ya heard !!!! I hope whoever it is has more experience than the name going around for u-17 management.  These young men need to be developed properly now so as they can progress to senior level and from what I hear money is the biggest factor rather than quality coaches. But as you said it’s only rumour

The 2019 u15 manager has the minor Job.

Just seen that.. thats a decent appointment although taking a chance but im not against taking chances. I doubt they had many better applications for the job either. He done a serious job with the 15s last year from what I seen. He is young and im sure he has a good management team around him. Best of luck.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: thegreeenandgold on October 12, 2019, 02:15:10 PM
Whose the U15 Manager from last year ?  Who are selectors for U20 and Minor ?
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Don Draper on October 12, 2019, 04:23:46 PM
Mark Bates
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Batman!!! on October 12, 2019, 05:46:42 PM
If he gets the job we can boycott the Minor Champ
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: GAA-SMART on October 12, 2019, 05:58:49 PM
If he gets the job we can boycott the Minor Champ

Why ?
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: thegreeenandgold on October 12, 2019, 06:20:02 PM
What club is he ?
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Target Man on October 12, 2019, 06:53:06 PM
What club is he ?

Thomas Davis
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Chrimtain on October 12, 2019, 10:46:21 PM
Seems like there is always someone unhappy with every appointment.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: GAA-SMART on October 12, 2019, 11:29:51 PM
I met the guy after the 15s beat Cork and he was very articulate and he has the best interests of the players in his mindset, clearly has a big passion for Laois GAA driven through family, and that was from a 2/3 minute chat. ive gone to a good few games as we have a few lads in the club on the 15s county panel. From talking to parents they all seemed of been very impressed by his workrate and getting the best from the players. Regardless i think its a positive that the development squad coaches are moving up to Minor. Its a model held in alot of counties, why do we need some "experienced" county journeyman taking these teams when we have guys who know and coached the players at our disposal. Seems like no matter who gets these jobs, you have someone ready to give out at the start.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: BallyroanAbu on October 12, 2019, 11:30:14 PM
Two Laois based applicants did not get the job over some chap from Dublin safe to say I am not surprised. 
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: thegreeenandgold on October 12, 2019, 11:38:18 PM
I met the guy after the 15s beat Cork and he was very articulate and he has the best interests of the players in his mindset, clearly has a big passion for Laois GAA driven through family, and that was from a 2/3 minute chat. ive gone to a good few games as we have a few lads in the club on the 15s county panel. From talking to parents they all seemed of been very impressed by his workrate and getting the best from the players. Regardless i think its a positive that the development squad coaches are moving up to Minor. Its a model held in alot of counties, why do we need some "experienced" county journeyman taking these teams when we have guys who know and coached the players at our disposal. Seems like no matter who gets these jobs, you have someone ready to give out at the start.


Sounds like your talking to yourself Mark  ;D ;D

Place gets Stranger and Stranger
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: GAA-SMART on October 12, 2019, 11:53:31 PM


Sounds like your talking to yourself Mark  ;D ;D

Place gets Stranger and Stranger
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Its just an opinion. Thats all. No need for smart replies. He might be useless he might not be. I think the model going forward should be that development squad coaches take the minors if the are deemed to be ok. Benefit of the doubt is all.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Batman!!! on October 13, 2019, 04:05:11 PM
He was told he had the job before the interview process even began. Also told the dual players not to play hurling on a number of occasions.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: GAA-SMART on October 13, 2019, 04:46:26 PM
He was told he had the job before the interview process even began. Also told the dual players not to play hurling on a number of occasions.

If he did then he shouldnt be near the job to be fair.. surprised he wasnt pulled on that or was he
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Zooming around on October 13, 2019, 07:23:46 PM
He was told he had the job before the interview process even began. Also told the dual players not to play hurling on a number of occasions.

Both of those things come as no surprise to me.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Target Man on October 13, 2019, 07:54:34 PM
Hearing there's a heavy Thomas Davis involvement in backroom team.......surely we would be better giving Laois coaches these roles or have we no trust in our own people
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: les Antiques on October 13, 2019, 11:06:28 PM
He was told he had the job before the interview process even began. Also told the dual players not to play hurling on a number of occasions.

In fairness you talk a lot of rubbish.
Back that statement up Batman. 
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: GoZonal66 on October 14, 2019, 04:57:47 PM
Lads this appointment is a farce. As a parent of a u16 Dev panel member, I am outraged that Noel Coss did not get this job.
This U15 team has some v good players but lets be realistic here- they scrapped over a Cork divisional team and were beaten by 10 points by a Kerry Divisional team.
From what i gather training sessions were made up of a game of tag followed by a 15 aside match. Mark Bates is far from Jim Gavin.

The CB are well aware that Mark Bates can not coach and have approached a number of people to join the minor set up as they knew Bates isnt up to it. This is a fact.

I can not reason as to why we are giving such an important role to someone who we know nothing about....
He is involved with Thomas Davis alright- the pro. Think he fills water bottles for the senior team. This man is not County Minor management material.

Well done Laois CB on this complete joke. Two semi finals in the last two years under Donnacha Phelan and now we are preparing to take 10 steps backwards.

I can confirm there will be atlesst 3 Thomas Davis lads involved. No faith in the coaches in Laois.

My son was looking forward to going in with Donnacha or atlesst a decent coach- his friends are telling him that the u15 lads laugh at Bates. They actually listen to the Laois lads involved.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Batman!!! on October 14, 2019, 06:28:00 PM
Les Antiques, a member of his own management team was heard saying it to numerous people he had it before the process even began. Wasnt pulled up on the hurling issue as the person who deals with those things doesn't care about hurling.

Shambles the whole set up and the appointment of both minor management teams.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: GoZonal66 on October 14, 2019, 07:06:06 PM
Strangest interview process I have ever heard of.... someone knowing he has the job well in advance of doing an interview.
Then the boys that interviewed him looking for coaches for him!l?!

I have it on relatively good authority that complaints were made to both Peter Hally and Donie Brennan about how clueless Bates is..... and these complaints were apparently made by the lads that were in with him!!


Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Newbie 04 on October 15, 2019, 08:53:13 PM
R.e Minor Managment

I'm a bit baffled by your post and comments made by others to be honest .

We in Laois seem to have an awful habit of being negative and basing our opinions on here say .

Who knows how this year's minor management will do but jeez give them a chance will you !
The man has just been ratified and some have him written off .

Just a few points of  interest

1. Complaints made by his own coaches..
As far as I am aware his coaches from the 15s have followed through with him to minors . Would they really back sombody they didn't believe in ???
I know I wouldn't would you ??

2. Telling lads not to hurl .
Within the team there is hurlers ,rugby players and Soccer  players and  were all accomadated throughout the year . Same can't be said about other years

3. The u15 team were very successful under him and played some very tough competition along the way so aside from coach it's unfair to make little of what the u15 team achieved last year .

It was also noted the panel was  never closed management attended a lot of club games in both A and B competitions and added to the panel throughout the season based on performance at club games  instead of the usual  have trials and close shop .

Whilst I understand everyone  will have a difference of opinion .  It's unfair to write the management off before a ball is kicked an base it on false information .
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: GoZonal66 on October 16, 2019, 08:35:11 AM
No false statements made there I am afraid Newbie04.

Facts.

1. Bates was told he had the job before interview
2. Laurence Phelan and Mike Hency were asking every coach in the county to join Bates Minor set up before it was ratified. One of the many coaches asked was in for the job in the first place.
3. Complaints were made about Bates.
4. Successful u15 team- big wins included wins over Galway and Cork divisional teams and then went on to lose to a Kerry divisional team!!
5. Noel Coss - won Minor and 21 with Port and trained their senior team. LaoisToday were struggling with what to write about Bates in the article about minor appointment.
6.Outgoing minor management team included Sean O Shea, Donie Brennan and Doonacha Phelan all brilliant coaches. What is coming in in place it that?? Pj Dempsey the only one with any notable coaching experience from what I can gather.


I feel sorry for the young lads in this. This farcical appointment is the talk of the county.


Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Tintin84 on October 16, 2019, 10:24:17 AM
R.e Minor Managment

I'm a bit baffled by your post and comments made by others to be honest .

We in Laois seem to have an awful habit of being negative and basing our opinions on here say .

Who knows how this year's minor management will do but jeez give them a chance will you !
The man has just been ratified and some have him written off .

Just a few points of  interest

1. Complaints made by his own coaches..
As far as I am aware his coaches from the 15s have followed through with him to minors . Would they really back sombody they didn't believe in ???
I know I wouldn't would you ??

2. Telling lads not to hurl .
Within the team there is hurlers ,rugby players and Soccer  players and  were all accomadated throughout the year . Same can't be said about other years

3. The u15 team were very successful under him and played some very tough competition along the way so aside from coach it's unfair to make little of what the u15 team achieved last year .

It was also noted the panel was  never closed management attended a lot of club games in both A and B competitions and added to the panel throughout the season based on performance at club games  instead of the usual  have trials and close shop .

Whilst I understand everyone  will have a difference of opinion .  It's unfair to write the management off before a ball is kicked an base it on false information .



Looks like Newbie04 is the new account of Mark, Now that he was identified as GAA-Smart...
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Keyser Söze on October 16, 2019, 10:37:39 AM
Who is Mike Hency?
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 16, 2019, 11:17:00 AM
Any more developments on the rumour that started around here that Eddie Kinsella is new U-20 manager? If it's true I think that it is a solid appointment. Kinsella was involved with St Paul's for many years and would know the underage scene well.

He's also helped a talented crop of Courtwood youngsters develop into potential inter-county footballers, with Niall Dunne being the prime example.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: clonadmad on October 16, 2019, 11:36:48 AM
Who is Mike Hency?

Mike Henchy,Id say
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: les Antiques on October 16, 2019, 12:30:14 PM
This whole scenario is baffling. 
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Batman!!! on October 16, 2019, 09:24:14 PM
And I see Donie Brennan is the new laois ladies manager which makes everything even more baffling
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Jd on October 16, 2019, 11:47:32 PM
Sean O Shea gone to u14s I heard
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Pure Ball on October 17, 2019, 08:22:57 AM
Any truth in it that Bates has the u15s up to play the Fr. Manning??  Surely he knows these lads inside out and should be using this competition to see the u16s in action, he only seems interested in the u15s when realistically only a few should make the minor panel. Be interesting to see how it plays out if this is true.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: thegreeenandgold on October 17, 2019, 01:49:52 PM
So Noel Coss and apparently Killian Fitzpatrick applied for the Minor Manager Job, both were not given the job but were both offered selector roles with Mark Bates.  Both are extremely annoyed as people off their applications were then contacted and asked to be part of Mark Bates management team.  It seems that the Job was never open to anyone but Mark Bates who was last years Laois U15 manager after being unable to get the Minor Managers Job in Thomas Davis.  This is what I am led to believe and unsure if this is true or not.

Eddie is supposedly being messed about with the U20 job being put on hold, while they ask other candidates if they are interested before reverting to Eddie if they can get no one else.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: GoZonal66 on October 17, 2019, 07:57:40 PM
You are correct Green and Gold. Bates could not get the minor job in his own club.

Bates was a part of an u14 Thomas Davis team that he stayed with until they got to minor 2016- 2018. This was his first venture into coaching.

Johnny Jackson was the manager and coach of that team. Bates, like he currently does with the Davis Senior team, was in charge of the water bottles.

Thomas Davis have more sense than let him near coaching a team.

 Laois GAA on the other hand were stuck for mentors for Development squads and that’s how he got in with Laois in the first place.

This buffer has now by passed two very experienced and successful coaches in Noel Coss and Cillian  Fitzpatrick.

Mike Henhcy and Laurence Phelan have a lot to answer for.

The corrupt nature of this shambolic appointment will surly put Laois based coaches off working with Laois GAA going forward.


As I said previously i really feel that the players have been let down with this appointment.





Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: town1980 on October 17, 2019, 10:16:56 PM
Who is the gdas boss is he a laois man..? But sure we have know one qualified In all of laois to do this job it's a disgrace Sean Dempsey isn't head off this department like everything in gaa it's all underhanded
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Chrimtain on October 18, 2019, 10:02:35 AM
Who is the gdas boss is he a laois man..? But sure we have know one qualified In all of laois to do this job it's a disgrace Sean Dempsey isn't head off this department like everything in gaa it's all underhanded

Really, you should learn how to put a coherent sentence together. Otherwise you are just wasting everybody's time. I guess you must have gone to school in Athy.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Helix. on October 18, 2019, 10:25:21 AM
You are correct Green and Gold. Bates could not get the minor job in his own club.

Bates was a part of an u14 Thomas Davis team that he stayed with until they got to minor 2016- 2018. This was his first venture into coaching.

Johnny Jackson was the manager and coach of that team. Bates, like he currently does with the Davis Senior team, was in charge of the water bottles.

Thomas Davis have more sense than let him near coaching a team.

 Laois GAA on the other hand were stuck for mentors for Development squads and that’s how he got in with Laois in the first place.

This buffer has now by passed two very experienced and successful coaches in Noel Coss and Cillian  Fitzpatrick.

Mike Henhcy and Laurence Phelan have a lot to answer for.

The corrupt nature of this shambolic appointment will surly put Laois based coaches off working with Laois GAA going forward.


As I said previously i really feel that the players have been let down with this appointment.

It seems to be a right mess with this particular appointment, especially  if Killian Fitzpatrick went for job after his exploits with Ballyfin and years coaching in CBS Portlaoise would have more than enough experience. The minimum standards Bates should have for inter county should be GAA award Level 2 at the very least. If that isn’t the case then whoever appointed him should be shown the door.

I hope the 17s and any age group in the county at both codes has the best resources to meet their potential. We can’t afford for our best talent to be in the wrong hands. I hope I’m pleasantly surprised but have my reservations at the moment.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: SCFC on October 20, 2019, 11:17:04 AM
Think I'll try get this thread back on topic.
Portlaoise hammered SPG with their seniors back Friday night.
And two of the favourites Courtwood Emo and Port met yesterday. Decent game with a lot of county players on view. Goals either side of half time won it for Courtwood Emo. Owens got a cracking goal just after half time.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: BobbyBoucherJr on October 20, 2019, 07:32:43 PM
Ratheniska hammered sarsfields yesterday, apparently jack priestley and Sean O'Neill didnt play with sarsfields. They opted to play with the divisional side instead. U20 players shouldn't be selected for the divisional games while the u20 championship is on.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Laoiseabu on October 20, 2019, 07:44:22 PM
Ratheniska hammered sarsfields yesterday, apparently jack priestley and Sean O'Neill didnt play with sarsfields. They opted to play with the divisional side instead. U20 players shouldn't be selected for the divisional games while the u20 championship is on.
If this is true it is nothing short of a farce
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: BobbyBoucherJr on October 20, 2019, 07:46:38 PM
Dont know how true it is, so I cant clarify. Did they play with the divisional team? Dont know if they played with sarsfields either.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 20, 2019, 08:36:18 PM
Dont know how true it is, so I cant clarify. Did they play with the divisional team? Dont know if they played with sarsfields either.

They played with the Divisional team anyway I know that.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: ollie12 on October 20, 2019, 09:43:06 PM
It's not right the lads 19 or 20 years of age that have an ambition to play with laois should have to choose which match to play. The players may feel this is one of only a handful of chances to impress the new management . They shouldn't have  to miss either a divisional match or a championship u20 match. Fixtures should  be made so players can play both.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Jd on October 20, 2019, 10:40:58 PM
I see that o Flynn came on in the divisional match and scored a goal. This after having a monster of a match earlier in u20 v port. I heard that three courtwood and an Emo chap went from the match in courtwood to the divisional match. For a lad not to tog for his club in championship isn’t good enough play and just be part of the panel there will be plenty of evenings when they won’t clash
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Downtheroad on October 20, 2019, 10:41:29 PM
Ratheniska hammered sarsfields yesterday, apparently jack priestley and Sean O'Neill didnt play with sarsfields. They opted to play with the divisional side instead. U20 players shouldn't be selected for the divisional games while the u20 championship is on.
If this is true it is nothing short of a farce
True all right
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Downtheroad on October 20, 2019, 10:43:15 PM
I see that o Flynn came on in the divisional match and scored a goal. This after having a monster of a match earlier in u20 v port. I heard that three courtwood and an Emo chap went from the match in courtwood to the divisional match. For a lad not to tog for his club in championship isn’t good enough play and just be part of the panel there will be plenty of evenings when they won’t clash
The Clonaslee lads played in both as well.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: High Fielder on October 20, 2019, 11:50:08 PM
It wasn't necessary to skip one for the other, or worse still, play in both. If they're good enough they will be seen and that was proven last year with O Flynn and others. You need to be pretty special to be called up to Senior when you're still underage, so they'd be better off sticking with Underage for as long as possible. There's plenty of time. Young lads tend to get itchy. The lure of the plane to America will be all that interests some of them next summer
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: ollie12 on October 21, 2019, 09:50:51 AM
A club championship match should  always come first. The divisional matches were fixed for Saturday, then the u20 matches should not have been fixed for the same day. Play them Fri  or Sunday  or the following  weekend. Give the few u20 lads that asre trying to impress s fair crack at it.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Neutralobserver on October 21, 2019, 10:00:59 AM
Ratheniska hammered sarsfields yesterday, apparently jack priestley and Sean O'Neill didnt play with sarsfields. They opted to play with the divisional side instead. U20 players shouldn't be selected for the divisional games while the u20 championship is on.
If this is true it is nothing short of a farce
from the start i said this divisional set up was a farce and of no advantage to anyone only the few pound it raises for charity
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: High Fielder on October 21, 2019, 10:09:01 AM
Nothing wrong with the Divisional Championship at all. I agree with a poster above that the U20's shouldn't be there in the first place. Any lad who misses a club match for a shot at Senior football is naive to say the least. But blaming the Divisional Championship is putting the cart before the horse
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: blueandwhite1 on October 21, 2019, 10:27:20 AM
Ratheniska hammered sarsfields yesterday, apparently jack priestley and Sean O'Neill didnt play with sarsfields. They opted to play with the divisional side instead. U20 players shouldn't be selected for the divisional games while the u20 championship is on.
If this is true it is nothing short of a farce
from the start i said this divisional set up was a farce and of no advantage to anyone only the few pound it raises for charity

How is the divisional set up a farce when lads would rather play in it than with their own clubs? There seems to be huge interest from the players in the county. Might be a few things to iron out but if people want to make it work it could open the door to stronger club football in Laois. For example, a Clough Ballacolla footballer managed to score a couple of goals in a senior match. How often would you hear that with our 'traditional' structures.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: SCFC on October 21, 2019, 10:50:02 AM
Ratheniska hammered sarsfields yesterday, apparently jack priestley and Sean O'Neill didnt play with sarsfields. They opted to play with the divisional side instead. U20 players shouldn't be selected for the divisional games while the u20 championship is on.
If this is true it is nothing short of a farce
from the start i said this divisional set up was a farce and of no advantage to anyone only the few pound it raises for charity

How is the divisional set up a farce when lads would rather play in it than with their own clubs? There seems to be huge interest from the players in the county. Might be a few things to iron out but if people want to make it work it could open the door to stronger club football in Laois. For example, a Clough Ballacolla footballer managed to score a couple of goals in a senior match. How often would you hear that with our 'traditional' structures.
He plays his football with The Heath to be fair.
Surely confining the divisional championships to players over 20 makes the most sense. Most of them young lads have enough football to be kicking with Sigerson, county and club under 20.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: blueandwhite1 on October 21, 2019, 11:11:21 AM
Don't disagree at all with limiting to players over 20. Was just reacting to the comment that the divisional set up overall was a farce and no advantage to anyone except charity. Although some clubs will always be against divisional teams (normally stronger clubs), they are typically better for a county overall.

Good article and debate here in the Examiner:

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/corks-divisional-debate-time-for-change-or-maintain-the-status-quo-892234.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/corks-divisional-debate-time-for-change-or-maintain-the-status-quo-892234.html)
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: High Fielder on October 21, 2019, 11:35:46 AM
Some of these young lads are getting ahead of themselves. This isn't the Underdogs FFS. Bide your time and contribute to what is hopefully going to be a good U20 team. We're too small a county for good lads to go unnoticed. I'd think more of the lad who is loyal and committed to a small set up than the glory hunter who goes looking for the bright lights. You have to prove yourself worthy
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Neutralobserver on October 21, 2019, 12:50:46 PM
Don't disagree at all with limiting to players over 20. Was just reacting to the comment that the divisional set up overall was a farce and no advantage to anyone except charity. Although some clubs will always be against divisional teams (normally stronger clubs), they are typically better for a county overall.

Good article and debate here in the Examiner:

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/corks-divisional-debate-time-for-change-or-maintain-the-status-quo-892234.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/corks-divisional-debate-time-for-change-or-maintain-the-status-quo-892234.html)
i would not be against a divisional team in a proper championship but what is a player going to prove in a meaningless divisional game at the end of a long season that he has not already done to be noticed for his club in a championship? if a player is good enough to be selected on a laois senior panel he will stand out in championship games where it really counts.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: High Fielder on October 21, 2019, 02:23:28 PM
You learn plenty about a player in these sort of situations. Some rise to the challenge and some don't. I doubt Sugrue started this just to have a kick about on a Saturday afternoon. The only harm done here is by a few eager young lads. Quirke would never have seen some of these lads but for the competition. That alone makes it worthwhile
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: ollie12 on October 21, 2019, 02:50:49 PM
You learn plenty about a player in these sort of situations. Some rise to the challenge and some don't. I doubt Sugrue started this just to have a kick about on a Saturday afternoon. The only harm done here is by a few eager young lads. Quirke would never have seen some of these lads but for the competition. That alone makes it worthwhile

Well said. And the new manager might not have seen a good few of the lads playing championship football this year so this  is their chance to show their worth.  Divisional games are a good idea but I just think they shouldn't clash with any other games so that everyone gets an opportunity to play.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Laois fan on October 21, 2019, 03:09:59 PM
I think all the lads in the A championship prioritized that comp over the divisional games which is good to see,maybe the lads couldnt get off work before we are too harsh on them
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: High Fielder on October 21, 2019, 03:21:50 PM
The circumstances are irrelevant. No U20 player should have played in the Divisional full stop. It wasn't necessary. As I write that, I'm aware that there's no Under 20 manager and the Minor manager has already been ridiculed. So maybe the players just wanted to attach themselves to something that looked half decent. I don't think they belonged there personally, and particularly not at the expense of their club side. As for the competition itself, there's nothing wrong with it. It was obviously popular with players and I'm sure Quirke was happy to see what's out there
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: ollie12 on October 21, 2019, 03:32:29 PM
Why shouldn't u20's have played the divisional matches? I don't agree  with players missing club games over the divisional  games but why shouldn't u20's play these games?
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Laoiseabu on October 21, 2019, 03:42:54 PM
The two players mentioned are only out of minor (u17 actually) . Would it not be more in their interests to play the u20 game and push on and maybe make the Laois u20 panel? Senior intercounty football is a bit of a jump for lads still only 18 and neither were on the u20 panel this year . Probably will be this year though .
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: High Fielder on October 21, 2019, 03:47:21 PM
Why shouldn't u20's have played the divisional matches? I don't agree  with players missing club games over the divisional  games but why shouldn't u20's play these games?

Because we have an Under 20 team. That's enough for them. If they excel in that grade, they will get their chance. That has already been proven.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: High Fielder on October 21, 2019, 03:48:22 PM
The two players mentioned are only out of minor (u17 actually) . Would it not be more in their interests to play the u20 game and push on and maybe make the Laois u20 panel? Senior intercounty football is a bit of a jump for lads still only 18 and neither were on the u20 panel this year . Probably will be this year though .

Exactly
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Neutralobserver on October 21, 2019, 07:20:54 PM
The circumstances are irrelevant. No U20 player should have played in the Divisional full stop. It wasn't necessary. As I write that, I'm aware that there's no Under 20 manager and the Minor manager has already been ridiculed. So maybe the players just wanted to attach themselves to something that looked half decent. I don't think they belonged there personally, and particularly not at the expense of their club side. As for the competition itself, there's nothing wrong with it. It was obviously popular with players and I'm sure Quirke was happy to see what's out there
Eddie kinsella according to laois today is new u20 manager
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: ollie12 on October 21, 2019, 07:39:42 PM
And if a lad is on his last year u20 this year where will he get noticed ? He could be overage for county u20 next year. He'll be back playing club football with his  club in 2020 and I doubt many lads playing league football with their clubs will get noticed.  So for some chaps the divisional championships is the only opportunity  for them to impress management.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: High Fielder on October 21, 2019, 08:03:51 PM
How many lads does that apply to in fairness? If you have someone in mind, say so. Otherwise we're getting into the realms of the unknown
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: ollie12 on October 21, 2019, 08:17:07 PM
Ive nobody in mind and I don't know how many if any are in st the divisional matches at all but I'm just pointing out that you shouldn't say u20's shouldn't be allowed  play in it. It should be open for everyone thst is eligible  for senior football like it is.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Jd on October 21, 2019, 08:37:31 PM
Actually I think young Kinsella in courtwood might fit that bill. I think he’s in his last year u20 now. So going back to the club next year I’d say Whelan in Ballyroan the same. So they need to be seen as they are there or thereabouts but were gone from championship before current man was appointed
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: High Fielder on October 21, 2019, 08:41:11 PM
I responded to this because it was said that lads played in the Divisional and not for their club. Without knowing why, I think that's getting your priorities wrong. We have an Under 20 grade so that should be their priority. They can play if they want or don't want. I really don't give two f##ks one way or the other. But you can't bypass Under 20 to play Senior, so it's questionable what they were hoping to achieve
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: High Fielder on October 21, 2019, 08:43:50 PM
Actually I think young Kinsella in courtwood might fit that bill. I think he’s in his last year u20 now. So going back to the club next year I’d say Whelan in Ballyroan the same. So they need to be seen as they are there or thereabouts but were gone from championship before current man was appointed

Both obviously on the radar. Terrible examples. The whole county knows about them. They're hardly going to slip through the cracks, although I honestly feel both have a long way to go
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Jd on October 21, 2019, 08:50:38 PM
You asked how many it would affect and I only gave two examples off the top of my head I’m sure there’s a few more less high profile ones. What does Mike Quirke know about a chap from courtwood or Ballyroan or Camross for that matter so it’s no harm them going in. Kinsella actually played in the u20 match for courtwood before going in so that’s where his priorities lie
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Laoiseabu on October 21, 2019, 08:58:41 PM
Actually I think young Kinsella in courtwood might fit that bill. I think he’s in his last year u20 now. So going back to the club next year I’d say Whelan in Ballyroan the same. So they need to be seen as they are there or thereabouts but were gone from championship before current man was appointed

Both obviously on the radar. Terrible examples. The whole county knows about them. They're hardly going to slip through the cracks, although I honestly feel both have a long way to go
I agree high fielder . We are Laois . We aren’t Dublin , Kerry , Galway , Cork , Mayo . We don’t have a big population . We don’t have an embarrassment of riches . Anyone that’s good enough will be seen alright guys . Don’t worry no one will get lost In the crowd. There’s no where to hide here . The cream always rises to the top
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: High Fielder on October 21, 2019, 09:14:28 PM
Spot on Laoiseabu. A non discussion if ever there was one. His card will be well marked
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: ollie12 on October 21, 2019, 09:32:51 PM
Sure font have a divisional championship at all so. We're a small county, no one will fall through the cracks.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: High Fielder on October 21, 2019, 10:53:51 PM
The reverse of your argument Ollie is that the Divisional sorts the wheat from the chaff. It's a worthwhile exercise in my opinion
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: ollie12 on October 22, 2019, 12:10:44 PM
Irony goes over some people's head.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: blueandwhite1 on October 22, 2019, 12:58:34 PM
So does the difference between Irony and sarcasm.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: High Fielder on October 22, 2019, 01:53:55 PM
Irony goes over some people's head.

To be honest, your whole argument is pointless. I disagree with you. You disagree with me. It happened. Life goes on. I'm sure we'll cross swords about something else, because it's obvious you have stuff to say. I have no problem with that, but don't try to humiliate people, because as others have learned, some of us bite back.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: ollie12 on October 22, 2019, 03:43:30 PM
I dont  disagree with  everything you say. I think the divisional are good. It's just I'd like to see no other fixtures clash with them and u20's get a fair crack at it. That's all. We can disagree on some things and agree on other things.  We're both  debating in the interest of laois football.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Laoiseabu on October 22, 2019, 04:18:06 PM
I dont  disagree with  everything you say. I think the divisional are good. It's just I'd like to see no other fixtures clash with them and u20's get a fair crack at it. That's all. We can disagree on some things and agree on other things.  We're both  debating in the interest of laois football.
There's no need to go too overboard lads. Will what’s being debated at the moment really matter 6 months from now ?
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Heshs Umpire on October 22, 2019, 04:35:28 PM
I dont  disagree with  everything you say. I think the divisional are good. It's just I'd like to see no other fixtures clash with them and u20's get a fair crack at it. That's all. We can disagree on some things and agree on other things.  We're both  debating in the interest of laois football.
Same here. I like the idea of the divisional thing but it might worth confining it to lads overage for next year's under 20 team. The idea of young lads running from one game to another as they did last Saturday in late October shouldn't enter the equation.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: BobbyBoucherJr on October 27, 2019, 03:00:05 PM
Big win for portlaoise this morning 6-9 to 1-14, guaranteed a semi final place now.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: SCFC on October 27, 2019, 07:26:59 PM
Big win for portlaoise this morning 6-9 to 1-14, guaranteed a semi final place now.
Was at it. Harsh scoreline on Joe's. Game was in the melting pot with less than 10 minutes to go. Few late goals well taken by Portlaoise.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: BobbyBoucherJr on October 27, 2019, 10:27:05 PM
I meant big as in needed to win
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Jd on November 04, 2019, 02:14:50 PM
Anyone at matches over the weekend ?? Is last 4 set in store I presume it’s Portlaoise O Dempsey’s Portarlington and Courtwood. Ballyroan must be disappointed I see they only lost to courtwood by a point. Are Portlaoise favourites for this or would Portarlington be
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: The PRO on November 04, 2019, 02:27:11 PM
Anyone at matches over the weekend ?? Is last 4 set in store I presume it’s Portlaoise O Dempsey’s Portarlington and Courtwood. Ballyroan must be disappointed I see they only lost to courtwood by a point. Are Portlaoise favourites for this or would Portarlington be
Port v Portlaoise
Courtwood Emo v O'Dempseys
That's the semi final line up.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on November 04, 2019, 02:48:26 PM
Anyone at matches over the weekend ?? Is last 4 set in store I presume it’s Portlaoise O Dempsey’s Portarlington and Courtwood. Ballyroan must be disappointed I see they only lost to courtwood by a point. Are Portlaoise favourites for this or would Portarlington be

I'd imagine Ballyroan are fairly disappointed. The first day out I think they had to play with 14 players because their minors were playing in the county final. Now they only lost to Courtwood by a point.

I'd expect Courtwood to beat O'Dempsey's. The other semi could be a good game. I'll go with Portlaoise to edge it.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Laoiseabu on November 04, 2019, 02:52:05 PM
Anyone at matches over the weekend ?? Is last 4 set in store I presume it’s Portlaoise O Dempsey’s Portarlington and Courtwood. Ballyroan must be disappointed I see they only lost to courtwood by a point. Are Portlaoise favourites for this or would Portarlington be

I'd imagine Ballyroan are fairly disappointed. The first day out I think they had to play with 14 players because their minors were playing in the county final. Now they only lost to Courtwood by a point.

I'd expect Courtwood to beat O'Dempsey's. The other semi could be a good game. I'll go with Portlaoise to edge it.
Why does everyone call them Courtwood ?😂😂😂 it’s courtwood/Emo . Is there some Emo lads not commiting or what ?
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: The PRO on November 04, 2019, 03:26:34 PM
Anyone at matches over the weekend ?? Is last 4 set in store I presume it’s Portlaoise O Dempsey’s Portarlington and Courtwood. Ballyroan must be disappointed I see they only lost to courtwood by a point. Are Portlaoise favourites for this or would Portarlington be

I'd imagine Ballyroan are fairly disappointed. The first day out I think they had to play with 14 players because their minors were playing in the county final. Now they only lost to Courtwood by a point.

I'd expect Courtwood to beat O'Dempsey's. The other semi could be a good game. I'll go with Portlaoise to edge it.
Why does everyone call them Courtwood ?😂😂😂 it’s courtwood/Emo . Is there some Emo lads not commiting or what ?

😄 I gave them their full title above anyway!! Courtwood Emo in under 20 and Emo Courtwood in under 17 is how it's arranged.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Jd on November 04, 2019, 06:06:24 PM
Apologies just keeping it short. Think I may have referred to O Dempsey’s as o Ds before and Stradbally parish gaels as Stradbally and even the minor team as Emo so obviously no offense intended
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Jd on November 11, 2019, 12:19:32 PM
Took a stroll up to the mill field on Saturday . Courtwood Emo made bits of O Dempsey’s I half expected a competitive match but this was terrible ce took off half their team at half time  or just after but the match was over after 20 mins. Port v Portlaoise should be a tight affair with I think port just shading it. Haven’t seen Portlaoise but they have a few lads with senior medals in their pockets so won’t be too bad
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Neutralobserver on November 11, 2019, 02:14:51 PM
no surprise to see courtwood emo here in the final as we did predict them strong from the start. i fancy them to go on a win it now. it would be a good year for them if they did and also the future is bright following their minor success.

both them and rosenallis with the quality of young players are ones to watch for the future
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: SCFC on November 11, 2019, 07:03:46 PM
both them and rosenallis with the quality of young players are ones to watch for the future
Port and Ballyroan Abbey too.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Laoiseabu on November 11, 2019, 07:08:35 PM
both them and rosenallis with the quality of young players are ones to watch for the future
Port and Ballyroan Abbey too.
And St Joseph’s 😊
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: The PRO on November 16, 2019, 08:13:33 PM
I was at the B semi final last night. Not a bad game. Clonaslee won handy in the end but Na Fianna Og missed a few brilliant goal chances so it could have been a lot different.
Doesn't bode well for Crettyard, Barrowhouse and the two Arles teams that they only had 17 players between them and got beaten by a standalone intermediate club.
Not too many standout players to be honest. Centre forward for NFO was very good but had no help.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on November 16, 2019, 08:57:45 PM
I was at the B semi final last night. Not a bad game. Clonaslee won handy in the end but Na Fianna Og missed a few brilliant goal chances so it could have been a lot different.
Doesn't bode well for Crettyard, Barrowhouse and the two Arles teams that they only had 17 players between them and got beaten by a standalone intermediate club.
Not too many standout players to be honest. Centre forward for NFO was very good but had no help.

It will certainly be difficult for the two Arles clubs to survive much longer at Senior level anyway. Clonaslee on the other hand will probably go in as favourites to win the Intermediate next year.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Jd on November 17, 2019, 01:03:56 PM
Has the other A semi been down payed yet
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: SCFC on November 18, 2019, 11:58:14 AM
Has the other A semi been down payed yet
????
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Jd on November 18, 2019, 01:54:18 PM
WOW typo alert
Has the other A semi final been played yet it was down for Wednesday but a lot of stuff was called off due to weather alert
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on November 18, 2019, 03:13:31 PM
WOW typo alert
Has the other A semi final been played yet it was down for Wednesday but a lot of stuff was called off due to weather alert

It's down to be played the day after the Portlaoise Seniors play in Leinster. Can't imagine Portlaoise must be too happy with the arrangement.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Neutralobserver on November 21, 2019, 02:38:45 PM
Any more developments on the rumour that started around here that Eddie Kinsella is new U-20 manager? If it's true I think that it is a solid appointment. Kinsella was involved with St Paul's for many years and would know the underage scene well.

He's also helped a talented crop of Courtwood youngsters develop into potential inter-county footballers, with Niall Dunne being the prime example.

kinsella was a surprise choice for me here, won only an intermediate with courtwood but has a serious panel of young players to choose from, jsut winning 1 title with a team like that does not make you an intercounty manager, same with rosenallis, great crop of young players but you dont have to be the greatest manager to win with them as they won both hurling and football because of the players, clonaslee a few years back had a great bunch of players and they won both grades with the same manager over both codes, portlaoise over the past 10-15 years could have brough any1 in to manage them and they would have won laois senior due to the quality of the players.

ill be shot for mentioning soccer here but pep over man city or klopp over liverpool is easy coach, what about a pep or klopp over norwich, would they win, no because they dont have the quality of player

same with clancy gone back to ballyroan abbey, relegation play off from intermediate with timahoe this year and now back trying to coach seniors, no sense in it apart from money

we need to look at the bigger picture when appointing coaches and not just base it on a guy that wins a title with a very good crop of young players.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Batman!!! on November 21, 2019, 03:01:39 PM
And the award for the greatest load of nonsense goes too........
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Neutralobserver on November 21, 2019, 03:45:15 PM
Its my opinion and may be nonsense to some people... I'll put it this way..last year we had Billy o loughlin, kerry had jack o connor. This year we have eddie kinsella, kerry have john surgue. It's a very important grade to transition players from underage to senior and we need to appoint well established experienced managers if that means we have to head out of our own county.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 21, 2019, 04:56:28 PM
What is with this counties obsession with outside managers, most of them are utterly useless.  Jack O Connor was dreadful as Kerry U20 Manager but Kildare like ourselves are celebrating him.  Billy did pretty well last year,  this county has some sort of inferiority complex.  I cannot for the life of me figure out why we keep hiring them.   


Pull in anything bar LS in this county and they are ready to make you top dog in 5 seconds. 
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on November 24, 2019, 06:46:16 PM
Portarlington and Courtwood-Emo in final, just like it was a couple of years ago at minor level. Disappointing few days for Portlaoise.

 From what I've seen of U-20 football this year Courtwood-Emo will go in as favourites. Big panel of players and most of county standard for their age. Portarlington won't fear then though.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: SCFC on November 24, 2019, 08:25:08 PM
Portarlington and Courtwood-Emo in final, just like it was a couple of years ago at minor level. Disappointing few days for Portlaoise.

 From what I've seen of U-20 football this year Courtwood-Emo will go in as favourites. Big panel of players and most of county standard for their age. Portarlington won't fear then though.
Won't be much between them I reckon. Port have as many or maybe more county guys and won the corresponding minor. I would have Port as slight favourites as they will have less of a wait for the final.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: BobbyBoucherJr on November 24, 2019, 08:48:11 PM
If maurice Deegan is reffinfg the match like he was today then I'd fancy portarlington
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Neutralobserver on November 24, 2019, 08:49:50 PM
It's going to make a great final with the two best team there. Hopefully it will live up to it just like the minor final a month ago.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Laois fan on November 24, 2019, 09:11:17 PM
If maurice Deegan is reffinfg the match like he was today then I'd fancy portarlington
Theres always one ,I guarantee your on your own if you think maurice sided with portarlington
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: the sash on November 24, 2019, 10:27:56 PM
if you think "portlaoise Maurice" favours portarlington  you've obviously not been to too many senior championship games where he has officiated us.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: SCFC on November 29, 2019, 01:01:02 PM
Final off tomorrow.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Jd on December 06, 2019, 10:30:14 PM
Just in from Stradbally   Great game of football serious credit to both sides for producing a game like that in December. Courtwood Emo marginally the better side and had better scoring forwards but port could have snuck it.   That Dunne chap at midfield from courtwood is a serious footballer best player on the field by far in my opinion
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on December 06, 2019, 10:38:20 PM
Just in from Stradbally   Great game of football serious credit to both sides for producing a game like that in December. Courtwood Emo marginally the better side and had better scoring forwards but port could have snuck it.   That Dunne chap at midfield from courtwood is a serious footballer best player on the field by far in my opinion

Dunne is a lovely footballer no doubt but my man of the match probably would have went to Alex Mohan at full-back for Portarlington. Had to mark Jack Owens and Alan Kinsella at different periods and seemed to come out on top of both.

Great game of football and I'd imagine a fair few on either side wi ll be putting their hands up for places on the Laois senior team.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Batman!!! on December 06, 2019, 11:33:20 PM
Why do we as a county be stone mad in looking for every young lad to be on a senior panel? Let them enjoy their Under 20 inter county first.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: SCFC on December 07, 2019, 12:20:25 AM
Super game tonight. Conditions were very good for the time of year, credit to Stradbally.
Either team could have won it, there was nothing between them. Also thought Niall Dunne was outstanding tonight, he has some workrate. Coffey was brilliant for Port and Corcoran and Mohan too. Game played in a great spirit too.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on January 02, 2020, 11:59:59 PM
Playing Kildare on Saturday @6pm in Hawkfield

                                       Matthew Byron (Courtwood)

   Neil Keane (The Heath), Jack Owens (Clonaslee), Alex Mohan (Portarlington)
     Dean Brophy (St Joseph’s), PJ Daly (The Heath), Jack Lacey (St Joseph’s)

          Sean O’Flynn (Courtwood), Sean Michael Corcoran (Portarlington)

Barry Howlin (O’Dempsey’s), Damon Larkin (Portlaoise), Colin Slevin (Portarlington)
  Damien McCaul (Annanough), Jack Owens (Emo), Daragh Galvin (Portarlington)
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: KOTS3 on January 03, 2020, 02:19:37 AM
Playing Kildare on Saturday @6pm in Hawkfield

                                       Matthew Byron (Courtwood)

   Neil Keane (The Heath), Jack Owens (Clonaslee), Alex Mohan (Portarlington)
     Dean Brophy (St Joseph’s), PJ Daly (The Heath), Jack Lacey (St Joseph’s)

          Sean O’Flynn (Courtwood), Sean Michael Corcoran (Portarlington)

Barry Howlin (O’Dempsey’s), Damon Larkin (Portlaoise), Colin Slevin (Portarlington)
  Damien McCaul (Annanough), Jack Owens (Emo), Daragh Galvin (Portarlington)

A few missing from last years team that are overage now but hopefully if lads commit we could see something like this come championship

M Byron

M Dowling
G Saunders
A Mohan

D Brophy
S O’Flynn
C Slevin

N Dunne
S M Corcoran

R Coffey
D Larkin
PJ Daly

D Galvin
J Owens
M Barry
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: From the Terrace on January 03, 2020, 09:07:51 AM
Heard Niall Dunne has injured his cruciate, if this is true will be a massive loss for kinsella & co.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Jd on January 03, 2020, 05:10:24 PM
I heard young Dunne got injured playing a practice match on the Sunday after the u20 final. The chap was outstanding that night but practically had to be carried off afterwards. Surely the Port and Courtwood/Emo lads could have been given the weekend off. He’s no good to Laois now and a huge loss to his club. There’s no advantage in having county men anymore for clubs
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Laois fan on January 03, 2020, 05:11:32 PM
Yeah believe dunne is out for season,slevin suspended for first round also,did saunders go in?
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Laoiseabu on January 03, 2020, 06:06:41 PM
Niall Dunne definitely gone for the year . Can’t see Daly and Galvin starting come championship . Josh Lacey is another definite starter injured
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: KOTS3 on March 06, 2020, 05:24:56 PM
Playing Kildare on Saturday @6pm in Hawkfield

                                       Matthew Byron (Courtwood)

   Neil Keane (The Heath), Jack Owens (Clonaslee), Alex Mohan (Portarlington)
     Dean Brophy (St Joseph’s), PJ Daly (The Heath), Jack Lacey (St Joseph’s)

          Sean O’Flynn (Courtwood), Sean Michael Corcoran (Portarlington)

Barry Howlin (O’Dempsey’s), Damon Larkin (Portlaoise), Colin Slevin (Portarlington)
  Damien McCaul (Annanough), Jack Owens (Emo), Daragh Galvin (Portarlington)

A few missing from last years team that are overage now but hopefully if lads commit we could see something like this come championship

M Byron

M Dowling
G Saunders
A Mohan

D Brophy
S O’Flynn
C Slevin

N Dunne
S M Corcoran

R Coffey
D Larkin
PJ Daly

D Galvin
J Owens
M Barry

Wasn't too far off in the end!
Mathew Byron (Courtwood); Michael Dowling (Portlaoise), Alex Mohan (Portarlington), Neil Keane (The Heath); Sean O’Flynn (Courtwood), Gary Saunders (Portlaoise), Jack Lacey (St Joseph’s); Barry Howlin (O’Dempsey’s), PJ Daly (The Heath); Ronan Coffey (Portarlington), Jack Owens (Emo), Damon Larkin (Portlaoise); Colin Slevin (Portarlington), Darragh Galvin (Portarlington), Mark Barry (O’Dempsey’s)

Neil Keane and Barry Howlin the two newcomers I see.
Very close call between Lacey and Brophy for wing back spot but best of luck to the lads this evening
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: High Fielder on March 06, 2020, 09:28:30 PM
Sat here in the car completely demoralised. In terms of work rate, physicality and technical ability, we are miles off. Not just at this grade, but in general. Same failings as at Senior. Kicking the ball out, losing it and conceding. Tackling U12 level. Handling and basic skills just nowhere near good enough. A good Dublin team no doubt, but we just can't compete with that. A different level.
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Onthe40 on March 06, 2020, 09:35:17 PM
Very poor Laois outfit.. toothless up front
Title: Re: Laois U20 Championship
Post by: Jd on March 06, 2020, 10:22:50 PM
Got off to a great start and ran through dublin but they started to foul and drag back from around 50 yards out and while the ball was dead just flooded players back and broke down laois attacks by weight of numbers. The dublin break at speed was devastating and left our defenders exposed 1 on 1 giving up scoring oppertunities in acres of space  young O Flynn was pulled and dragged every time he attempted to get forward and the ref allowed this systematic fouling on laois players without any cards shown This is the Dublin system and as long as they keep getting away with it theyll stay doing it