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Title: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: TheGreatest on September 26, 2019, 08:59:59 AM
Very interesting. "Governance issues"

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-withholds-250000-from-mayo-county-board-38536084.html

I know posters will come back with " But Dublin this and Dublin that" so work away.

250K donation.
60K training trips
370,000 USD New York Gala Dinners.

Plus plenty plenty more.

How can the likes of Sligo and Leitrim compete with is huge advantage to Mayo.


Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: mup on September 26, 2019, 09:43:57 AM
Very interesting. "Governance issues"

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-withholds-250000-from-mayo-county-board-38536084.html

I know posters will come back with " But Dublin this and Dublin that" so work away.

250K donation.
60K training trips
370,000 USD New York Gala Dinners.

Plus plenty plenty more.

How can the likes of Sligo and Leitrim compete with is huge advantage to Mayo.

Any chance Dublin's millionaire backers (aka The GAA) will withhold monies?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: dublin7 on September 26, 2019, 09:55:59 AM
Very interesting. "Governance issues"

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-withholds-250000-from-mayo-county-board-38536084.html

I know posters will come back with " But Dublin this and Dublin that" so work away.

250K donation.
60K training trips
370,000 USD New York Gala Dinners.

Plus plenty plenty more.

How can the likes of Sligo and Leitrim compete with is huge advantage to Mayo.

Any chance Dublin's millionaire backers (aka The GAA) will withhold monies?
No. The Dublin county board is well run and well organised and there are no issues around money, unlike the Mayo co board it seems.

Charging €5k for All Ireland tickes with a face value of €950. Classy move. Imagine ripping off your own donors like that. Is it any wonder they are so furious.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on September 26, 2019, 09:57:43 AM
Very interesting. "Governance issues"

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-withholds-250000-from-mayo-county-board-38536084.html

I know posters will come back with " But Dublin this and Dublin that" so work away.

250K donation.
60K training trips
370,000 USD New York Gala Dinners.

Plus plenty plenty more.

How can the likes of Sligo and Leitrim compete with is huge advantage to Mayo.

Any chance Dublin's millionaire backers (aka The GAA) will withhold monies?
Stunningly missed the point.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: rosnarun on September 26, 2019, 09:59:47 AM
if the monies were raised  in the name of mayo Gaa .  then he should hand it over with out delay . these 3rds party organizations are unelected and unaccountable cannot  the policies of the GAA in a county just because they are now in possession of monies raised for Mayo gaa.
if he is making personal donations. that is different he can do as he like and out as many conditions on it as he likes .
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Tubberman on September 26, 2019, 10:00:54 AM
Very interesting. "Governance issues"

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-withholds-250000-from-mayo-county-board-38536084.html

I know posters will come back with " But Dublin this and Dublin that" so work away.

250K donation.
60K training trips
370,000 USD New York Gala Dinners.

Plus plenty plenty more.

How can the likes of Sligo and Leitrim compete with is huge advantage to Mayo.

Any chance Dublin's millionaire backers (aka The GAA) will withhold monies?
No. The Dublin county board is well run and well organised and there are no issues around money, unlike the Mayo co board it seems.

Charging €5k for All Ireland tickes with a face value of €950. Classy move. Imagine ripping off your own donors like that. Is it any wonder they are so furious.

You really have no idea how a fundraising auction works do you? I suppose Dublin don't need to go out and do this kind of fundraising. They just tap up to a few multinationals like AIG. Sadly not every county has those available.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on September 26, 2019, 10:20:32 AM
if the monies were raised  in the name of mayo Gaa .  then he should hand it over with out delay . these 3rds party organizations are unelected and unaccountable cannot  the policies of the GAA in a county just because they are now in possession of monies raised for Mayo gaa.
if he is making personal donations. that is different he can do as he like and out as many conditions on it as he likes .

They weren't.

He offered x for a training facility. A couple of years later no progress, but as I understand it they asked for the money anyway, he said no.

Hopefully this helps the message that some county boards couldn't run a bath and all the funding in the world wont change that
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Aaron Boone on September 26, 2019, 10:26:48 AM
It's serious money.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Maroon Manc on September 26, 2019, 10:37:16 AM
Huge Mayo man is Tim O'Leary?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2165338/Euro-2012-England-fan-flashed-Diamanti-penalty-shootout-revealed-millionaire-businessman.html

Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: shark on September 26, 2019, 10:45:22 AM
Very interesting. "Governance issues"

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-withholds-250000-from-mayo-county-board-38536084.html

I know posters will come back with " But Dublin this and Dublin that" so work away.

250K donation.
60K training trips
370,000 USD New York Gala Dinners.

Plus plenty plenty more.

How can the likes of Sligo and Leitrim compete with is huge advantage to Mayo.

Any chance Dublin's millionaire backers (aka The GAA) will withhold monies?
No. The Dublin county board is well run and well organised and there are no issues around money, unlike the Mayo co board it seems.

Charging €5k for All Ireland tickes with a face value of €950. Classy move. Imagine ripping off your own donors like that. Is it any wonder they are so furious.

You really have no idea how a fundraising auction works do you? I suppose Dublin don't need to go out and do this kind of fundraising. They just tap up to a few multinationals like AIG. Sadly not every county has those available.

Sadly not every county has access to this type of foreign cash. Dublin's level of funding is a real problem. So is Mayo's, Kerry's and a few others. There are 32 counties.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on September 26, 2019, 10:50:07 AM
Very interesting. "Governance issues"

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-withholds-250000-from-mayo-county-board-38536084.html

I know posters will come back with " But Dublin this and Dublin that" so work away.

250K donation.
60K training trips
370,000 USD New York Gala Dinners.

Plus plenty plenty more.

How can the likes of Sligo and Leitrim compete with is huge advantage to Mayo.

Any chance Dublin's millionaire backers (aka The GAA) will withhold monies?
No. The Dublin county board is well run and well organised and there are no issues around money, unlike the Mayo co board it seems.

Charging €5k for All Ireland tickes with a face value of €950. Classy move. Imagine ripping off your own donors like that. Is it any wonder they are so furious.

You really have no idea how a fundraising auction works do you? I suppose Dublin don't need to go out and do this kind of fundraising. They just tap up to a few multinationals like AIG. Sadly not every county has those available.

Sadly not every county has access to this type of foreign cash. Dublin's level of funding is a real problem. So is Mayo's, Kerry's and a few others. There are 32 counties.

Im not sure I buy this. If Mayo can find a group of wealthy backers I really dont see why others cant.

Again, I get the feeling its easier to whinge thaen do
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Maroon Manc on September 26, 2019, 10:54:42 AM
Who else is part of this Mayo foundation and have they any background in the Gaa?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: rosnarun on September 26, 2019, 10:55:08 AM
if the monies were raised  in the name of mayo Gaa .  then he should hand it over with out delay . these 3rds party organizations are unelected and unaccountable cannot  the policies of the GAA in a county just because they are now in possession of monies raised for Mayo gaa.
if he is making personal donations. that is different he can do as he like and out as many conditions on it as he likes .

They weren't.

He offered x for a training facility. A couple of years later no progress, but as I understand it they asked for the money anyway, he said no.

Hopefully this helps the message that some county boards couldn't run a bath and all the funding in the world wont change that
the Gala dinner in New York was very much sold as a Mayoo GAA event ,
Bad show now if he doesn't want to hand over the money now because hes not getting his own way ,
as the saying goes 'Beware of Greeks bearing Gifts'
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Rossfan on September 26, 2019, 11:06:55 AM
Sadly an awful lot of Co Boards are vulnerable to this kind of individual as they try to fund and compete at Inter County level.
Now if the GAA was to decide that " football needs a strong Mayo" etc etc
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: shark on September 26, 2019, 11:07:17 AM
Very interesting. "Governance issues"

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-withholds-250000-from-mayo-county-board-38536084.html

I know posters will come back with " But Dublin this and Dublin that" so work away.

250K donation.
60K training trips
370,000 USD New York Gala Dinners.

Plus plenty plenty more.

How can the likes of Sligo and Leitrim compete with is huge advantage to Mayo.

Any chance Dublin's millionaire backers (aka The GAA) will withhold monies?
No. The Dublin county board is well run and well organised and there are no issues around money, unlike the Mayo co board it seems.

Charging €5k for All Ireland tickes with a face value of €950. Classy move. Imagine ripping off your own donors like that. Is it any wonder they are so furious.

You really have no idea how a fundraising auction works do you? I suppose Dublin don't need to go out and do this kind of fundraising. They just tap up to a few multinationals like AIG. Sadly not every county has those available.

Sadly not every county has access to this type of foreign cash. Dublin's level of funding is a real problem. So is Mayo's, Kerry's and a few others. There are 32 counties.

Im not sure I buy this. If Mayo can find a group of wealthy backers I really dont see why others cant.

Again, I get the feeling its easier to whinge thaen do

Well of course it is. And for sure some counties will not be proactive enough or have the required competencies to chase this type of cash.

But there is a finite number of people who will want to bankroll amateur GAA teams. Counties with larger populations, and larger emigrate populations are in a stronger position to make use of this. The money here is eye watering. There is no way every county can raise to the same level.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: whitey on September 26, 2019, 11:09:45 AM
Who else is part of this Mayo foundation and have they any background in the Gaa?

Not sure, but I’d guess a few have some knowledge

In 2014 the fundraising efforts in New York wouldn’t have been out of place in an episode of Father Ted. This year the events were run professionally  and serious money was raised
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Owenmoresider on September 26, 2019, 11:14:20 AM
Sadly an awful lot of Co Boards are vulnerable to this kind of individual as they try to fund and compete at Inter County level.
Now if the GAA was to decide that " football needs a strong Mayo" etc etc
Connacht GAA certainly thinks so.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: whitey on September 26, 2019, 11:20:03 AM
Very interesting. "Governance issues"

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-withholds-250000-from-mayo-county-board-38536084.html

I know posters will come back with " But Dublin this and Dublin that" so work away.

250K donation.
60K training trips
370,000 USD New York Gala Dinners.

Plus plenty plenty more.

How can the likes of Sligo and Leitrim compete with is huge advantage to Mayo.

Any chance Dublin's millionaire backers (aka The GAA) will withhold monies?
No. The Dublin county board is well run and well organised and there are no issues around money, unlike the Mayo co board it seems.

Charging €5k for All Ireland tickes with a face value of €950. Classy move. Imagine ripping off your own donors like that. Is it any wonder they are so furious.

You really have no idea how a fundraising auction works do you? I suppose Dublin don't need to go out and do this kind of fundraising. They just tap up to a few multinationals like AIG. Sadly not every county has those available.

Sadly not every county has access to this type of foreign cash. Dublin's level of funding is a real problem. So is Mayo's, Kerry's and a few others. There are 32 counties.

Im not sure I buy this. If Mayo can find a group of wealthy backers I really dont see why others cant.

Again, I get the feeling its easier to whinge thaen do

Well of course it is. And for sure some counties will not be proactive enough or have the required competencies to chase this type of cash.

But there is a finite number of people who will want to bankroll amateur GAA teams. Counties with larger populations, and larger emigrate populations are in a stronger position to make use of this. The money here is eye watering. There is no way every county can raise to the same level.


Due to the ridiculously high levels of emigration and migration from Mayo we have a diaspora unrivaled by most counties and hence could pull this off. There are also Mayo fans in every county in Ireland whose parents or grandparents were from Mayo. I spent 4 days in the high stool in New York and met people from all corners of Ireland and England, not to mention the States. One person told me that 100 flew in from San Francisco alone
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: dublin7 on September 26, 2019, 11:31:13 AM
Very interesting. "Governance issues"

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-withholds-250000-from-mayo-county-board-38536084.html

I know posters will come back with " But Dublin this and Dublin that" so work away.

250K donation.
60K training trips
370,000 USD New York Gala Dinners.

Plus plenty plenty more.

How can the likes of Sligo and Leitrim compete with is huge advantage to Mayo.

Any chance Dublin's millionaire backers (aka The GAA) will withhold monies?
No. The Dublin county board is well run and well organised and there are no issues around money, unlike the Mayo co board it seems.

Charging €5k for All Ireland tickes with a face value of €950. Classy move. Imagine ripping off your own donors like that. Is it any wonder they are so furious.

You really have no idea how a fundraising auction works do you? I suppose Dublin don't need to go out and do this kind of fundraising. They just tap up to a few multinationals like AIG. Sadly not every county has those available.

Dublin did an All Ireland breakfast preview last year were they charged "x" amount per table, but everyone who attended was guaranteed a ticket.

In my mind this is different. They wanted to raffle/auction the tickets to raise funds, so Mayo county board rips them off selling them the tickets and then expects the proceeds from the raffle/auction as well!!!  To me that's taking the mick, but maybe things are different down the country.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: magpie seanie on September 26, 2019, 11:36:58 AM
I have much more of a problem with these shadowy unelected groups/individuals providing off the books funding than any official GAA funding.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: The Wedger on September 26, 2019, 11:47:44 AM
These are serious sums, no matter what the county is.
Luckily money hasn't anything to do with success and it's the quality of the volunteers that matters.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Lar Naparka on September 26, 2019, 01:12:18 PM
Very interesting. "Governance issues"

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-withholds-250000-from-mayo-county-board-38536084.html

I know posters will come back with " But Dublin this and Dublin that" so work away.

250K donation.
60K training trips
370,000 USD New York Gala Dinners.

Plus plenty plenty more.

How can the likes of Sligo and Leitrim compete with is huge advantage to Mayo.
Easy. They just need to do what Mayo has done.
Mayo fundraisers seek out people with Mayo connections who are ready to support GAA within the county. These are mainly emigrants from the county or their descendants and there are I'm afraid thousands of them out there.
Mayo depends on volunteer organisers to come up with fundraising initiatives and all counties with high emigration rates can do they same if they are prepared to put in the grunt work to do so.
I can't comment on what Sligo or Leitrim are doing in this regard  as I don't know but they certainly have emigratioin issues same as Mayo.
On a side note, any money Mayo gets is hard earned and has to be looked for. Handouts from HQ or the Irish Sports Council don't go very far.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Rossfan on September 26, 2019, 01:13:24 PM
Yes indeed.
Those Longford and Leitrim volunteers need to up their game ::)
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on September 26, 2019, 02:33:47 PM
Yes indeed.
Those Longford and Leitrim volunteers need to up their game ::)
In this instance, yes. There are wealthy individuals in both counties and wealthy emigrants. Find them, massage them, tap them.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on September 26, 2019, 02:36:36 PM
if the monies were raised  in the name of mayo Gaa .  then he should hand it over with out delay . these 3rds party organizations are unelected and unaccountable cannot  the policies of the GAA in a county just because they are now in possession of monies raised for Mayo gaa.
if he is making personal donations. that is different he can do as he like and out as many conditions on it as he likes .

They weren't.

He offered x for a training facility. A couple of years later no progress, but as I understand it they asked for the money anyway, he said no.

Hopefully this helps the message that some county boards couldn't run a bath and all the funding in the world wont change that
the Gala dinner in New York was very much sold as a Mayoo GAA event ,
Bad show now if he doesn't want to hand over the money now because hes not getting his own way ,
as the saying goes 'Beware of Greeks bearing Gifts'
Are you not confusing two things? New York cash was banked and spent. This guy promised additional bricks and mortar funding that Mayo never bothered following up on but asked for the money for current spending.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Tubberman on September 26, 2019, 03:13:19 PM
if the monies were raised  in the name of mayo Gaa .  then he should hand it over with out delay . these 3rds party organizations are unelected and unaccountable cannot  the policies of the GAA in a county just because they are now in possession of monies raised for Mayo gaa.
if he is making personal donations. that is different he can do as he like and out as many conditions on it as he likes .

They weren't.

He offered x for a training facility. A couple of years later no progress, but as I understand it they asked for the money anyway, he said no.

Hopefully this helps the message that some county boards couldn't run a bath and all the funding in the world wont change that
the Gala dinner in New York was very much sold as a Mayoo GAA event ,
Bad show now if he doesn't want to hand over the money now because hes not getting his own way ,
as the saying goes 'Beware of Greeks bearing Gifts'
Are you not confusing two things? New York cash was banked and spent. This guy promised additional bricks and mortar funding that Mayo never bothered following up on but asked for the money for current spending.

You don't know what you're talking about. Almost all of what you've said is incorrect - read the reports more carefully.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: TheGreatest on September 26, 2019, 03:27:25 PM
Very interesting. "Governance issues"

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-withholds-250000-from-mayo-county-board-38536084.html

I know posters will come back with " But Dublin this and Dublin that" so work away.

250K donation.
60K training trips
370,000 USD New York Gala Dinners.

Plus plenty plenty more.

How can the likes of Sligo and Leitrim compete with is huge advantage to Mayo.
Easy. They just need to do what Mayo has done.
Mayo fundraisers seek out people with Mayo connections who are ready to support GAA within the county. These are mainly emigrants from the county or their descendants and there are I'm afraid thousands of them out there.
Mayo depends on volunteer organisers to come up with fundraising initiatives and all counties with high emigration rates can do they same if they are prepared to put in the grunt work to do so.
I can't comment on what Sligo or Leitrim are doing in this regard  as I don't know but they certainly have emigratioin issues same as Mayo.
On a side note, any money Mayo gets is hard earned and has to be looked for. Handouts from HQ or the Irish Sports Council don't go very far.

Fair enough points made.

Was there not a handout to fix McHale park though?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Lar Naparka on September 26, 2019, 03:43:56 PM
Very interesting. "Governance issues"

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-withholds-250000-from-mayo-county-board-38536084.html

I know posters will come back with " But Dublin this and Dublin that" so work away.

250K donation.
60K training trips
370,000 USD New York Gala Dinners.

Plus plenty plenty more.

How can the likes of Sligo and Leitrim compete with is huge advantage to Mayo.
Easy. They just need to do what Mayo has done.
Mayo fundraisers seek out people with Mayo connections who are ready to support GAA within the county. These are mainly emigrants from the county or their descendants and there are I'm afraid thousands of them out there.
Mayo depends on volunteer organisers to come up with fundraising initiatives and all counties with high emigration rates can do they same if they are prepared to put in the grunt work to do so.
I can't comment on what Sligo or Leitrim are doing in this regard  as I don't know but they certainly have emigratioin issues same as Mayo.
On a side note, any money Mayo gets is hard earned and has to be looked for. Handouts from HQ or the Irish Sports Council don't go very far.

Fair enough points made.

Was there not a handout to fix McHale park though?
No.
The loan repayment schedule was restructured. The period of payments was extended but the amount payable remains the same.
This is common enough practice in the commercial world and banks and other lending institutions often do the same ,
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on September 26, 2019, 03:48:39 PM
if the monies were raised  in the name of mayo Gaa .  then he should hand it over with out delay . these 3rds party organizations are unelected and unaccountable cannot  the policies of the GAA in a county just because they are now in possession of monies raised for Mayo gaa.
if he is making personal donations. that is different he can do as he like and out as many conditions on it as he likes .

They weren't.

He offered x for a training facility. A couple of years later no progress, but as I understand it they asked for the money anyway, he said no.

Hopefully this helps the message that some county boards couldn't run a bath and all the funding in the world wont change that
the Gala dinner in New York was very much sold as a Mayoo GAA event ,
Bad show now if he doesn't want to hand over the money now because hes not getting his own way ,
as the saying goes 'Beware of Greeks bearing Gifts'
Are you not confusing two things? New York cash was banked and spent. This guy promised additional bricks and mortar funding that Mayo never bothered following up on but asked for the money for current spending.

You don't know what you're talking about. Almost all of what you've said is incorrect - read the reports more carefully.

I did.

The €250k in question is nothing to do with the NY fundraiser.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Tubberman on September 26, 2019, 04:05:58 PM
Very interesting. "Governance issues"

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-withholds-250000-from-mayo-county-board-38536084.html

I know posters will come back with " But Dublin this and Dublin that" so work away.

250K donation.
60K training trips
370,000 USD New York Gala Dinners.

Plus plenty plenty more.

How can the likes of Sligo and Leitrim compete with is huge advantage to Mayo.
Easy. They just need to do what Mayo has done.
Mayo fundraisers seek out people with Mayo connections who are ready to support GAA within the county. These are mainly emigrants from the county or their descendants and there are I'm afraid thousands of them out there.
Mayo depends on volunteer organisers to come up with fundraising initiatives and all counties with high emigration rates can do they same if they are prepared to put in the grunt work to do so.
I can't comment on what Sligo or Leitrim are doing in this regard  as I don't know but they certainly have emigratioin issues same as Mayo.
On a side note, any money Mayo gets is hard earned and has to be looked for. Handouts from HQ or the Irish Sports Council don't go very far.

Fair enough points made.

Was there not a handout to fix McHale park though?

No, Croke Park took over the loan from Ulster Bank - there was no handout. The repayments are about €33k a month, something Dublin have never had to deal with.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: rosnarun on September 26, 2019, 04:21:15 PM
if the monies were raised  in the name of mayo Gaa .  then he should hand it over with out delay . these 3rds party organizations are unelected and unaccountable cannot  the policies of the GAA in a county just because they are now in possession of monies raised for Mayo gaa.
if he is making personal donations. that is different he can do as he like and out as many conditions on it as he likes .

They weren't.

He offered x for a training facility. A couple of years later no progress, but as I understand it they asked for the money anyway, he said no.

Hopefully this helps the message that some county boards couldn't run a bath and all the funding in the world wont change that
the Gala dinner in New York was very much sold as a Mayoo GAA event ,
Bad show now if he doesn't want to hand over the money now because hes not getting his own way ,
as the saying goes 'Beware of Greeks bearing Gifts'
Are you not confusing two things? New York cash was banked and spent. This guy promised additional bricks and mortar funding that Mayo never bothered following up on but asked for the money for current spending.

You don't know what you're talking about. Almost all of what you've said is incorrect - read the reports more carefully.

I did.

The €250k in question is nothing to do with the NY fundraiser.
the question remains who do we want running Mayo football.  a county board elected by the club or a guy who we never heard of till yesterday who had bucket loads of cash. whioo was last seen exposing himself because he wanted england to win a soccer match ,
load of English and indeed  LOI clucgs have come across similar characters before and it never Ends well
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: shark on September 26, 2019, 04:21:24 PM
if the monies were raised  in the name of mayo Gaa .  then he should hand it over with out delay . these 3rds party organizations are unelected and unaccountable cannot  the policies of the GAA in a county just because they are now in possession of monies raised for Mayo gaa.
if he is making personal donations. that is different he can do as he like and out as many conditions on it as he likes .

They weren't.

He offered x for a training facility. A couple of years later no progress, but as I understand it they asked for the money anyway, he said no.

Hopefully this helps the message that some county boards couldn't run a bath and all the funding in the world wont change that
the Gala dinner in New York was very much sold as a Mayoo GAA event ,
Bad show now if he doesn't want to hand over the money now because hes not getting his own way ,
as the saying goes 'Beware of Greeks bearing Gifts'
Are you not confusing two things? New York cash was banked and spent. This guy promised additional bricks and mortar funding that Mayo never bothered following up on but asked for the money for current spending.

You don't know what you're talking about. Almost all of what you've said is incorrect - read the reports more carefully.

The Gala Event raised €160k after costs, all of which was spent. The €250k withheld is this guys personal contribution. Is that not accurate? He made a separate contribution of €50k for the running of the event, which was spent.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: macdanger2 on September 26, 2019, 04:38:59 PM
The amounts being spent on County teams are ridiculous, not sure how the GAA can reverse this though
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Gmac on September 26, 2019, 06:00:17 PM
The amounts being spent on County teams are ridiculous, not sure how the GAA can reverse this though
90% of them are wasting their money too as they never win Anything .
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Gmac on September 26, 2019, 07:15:19 PM
Roscommon received or are receiving significant contribution from one exile in the states and he seems happy to do it with little fanfare so there are people out there with lots of money who donate and every county should be after them .
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Maroon Manc on September 26, 2019, 07:19:34 PM
The amounts being spent on County teams are ridiculous, not sure how the GAA can reverse this though

Put a budget on it? 

I do think every county board should have a full time financial officer appointed by HQ, would make it a lot easier to police.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on September 26, 2019, 07:47:25 PM
The amounts being spent on County teams are ridiculous, not sure how the GAA can reverse this though

Put a budget on it? 

I do think every county board should have a full time financial officer appointed by HQ, would make it a lot easier to police.

Centralised budgets run direct from Croke Park.

Hard to hide big payments on the side inside a comparatively limited county board budget (once the inter-county figures are removed).
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Gmac on September 26, 2019, 07:59:13 PM
The amounts being spent on County teams are ridiculous, not sure how the GAA can reverse this though

Put a budget on it? 

I do think every county board should have a full time financial officer appointed by HQ, would make it a lot easier to police.

Centralised budgets run direct from Croke Park.

Hard to hide big payments on the side inside a comparatively limited county board budget (once the inter-county figures are removed).
so who do sponsors of individual counties pay Croke park or the county board ?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on September 26, 2019, 08:35:21 PM
so who do sponsors of individual counties pay Croke park or the county board ?
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Croke. All centralised.

Central pot which is then divided equally among the counties.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: weareros on September 26, 2019, 10:12:17 PM
Sounds like this Timothy O’Leary with his bags of money, turned on, tuned in, then dropped out.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Halfquarter on September 26, 2019, 11:12:11 PM
The amounts being spent on County teams are ridiculous, not sure how the GAA can reverse this though

It’s a race to hang onto Dublin’s coat tails, never going to happen !
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: MayoBuck on September 26, 2019, 11:38:37 PM
We only know one side of the story at the minute but from Tim O'Leary's POV, he wants assurances that the remainder of the money will be invested in the academy squads or the Lough Lannagh training facility. He doesn't want it spent on some day to day costs, i.e. senior team expenses or the MacHale Park loan.

Why can't these assurances be provided? It would be interesting to hear what issues the county board has?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: rosnarun on September 27, 2019, 09:24:39 AM
We only know one side of the story at the minute but from Tim O'Leary's POV, he wants assurances that the remainder of the money will be invested in the academy squads or the Lough Lannagh training facility. He doesn't want it spent on some day to day costs, i.e. senior team expenses or the MacHale Park loan.

Why can't these assurances be provided? It would be interesting to hear what issues the county board has?
this reminds me a bit of the Cat scan and dialysis machines   charities buy  for hospitals and then there is not the Staff to run them and they are left idle for years .
like it or not the County board are in charge of the GAA in Mayo and have to take an overall view of finances and not just vanity   Projects instigated by people who seem willing clear off at he first opportunity when they Don't get their own way.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: heffo on September 27, 2019, 09:27:31 AM
We seen similar in Kildare a few years ago with the guy who put up the apartment for Seanie - he wanted a vote on the county management committee. Are these people just driven by ego or is it inept fundamentals at the county board level?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: dublin7 on September 27, 2019, 09:58:11 AM
We only know one side of the story at the minute but from Tim O'Leary's POV, he wants assurances that the remainder of the money will be invested in the academy squads or the Lough Lannagh training facility. He doesn't want it spent on some day to day costs, i.e. senior team expenses or the MacHale Park loan.

Why can't these assurances be provided? It would be interesting to hear what issues the county board has?

I would agree with this. He wanted too see plans for the centre of excellence to be built (which isn't unreasonable as he is paying for majority of it) and the county board seem to just telling him, ah sure it's grand don't worry about it. Seems reasonable enough to withhold funding based on this.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: EBX on September 27, 2019, 10:46:07 AM
We only know one side of the story at the minute but from Tim O'Leary's POV, he wants assurances that the remainder of the money will be invested in the academy squads or the Lough Lannagh training facility. He doesn't want it spent on some day to day costs, i.e. senior team expenses or the MacHale Park loan.

Why can't these assurances be provided? It would be interesting to hear what issues the county board has?
this reminds me a bit of the Cat scan and dialysis machines   charities buy  for hospitals and then there is not the Staff to run them and they are left idle for years .
like it or not the County board are in charge of the GAA in Mayo and have to take an overall view of finances and not just vanity   Projects instigated by people who seem willing clear off at he first opportunity when they Don't get their own way.

Rosnarun, play the ball not the man. The Supporters Foundation was set-up as a 501c3 Corporation to aid with meeting compliance obligations related to fundraising in the states. One of those obligations is that Trustees, like Mr. O'Leary, have a duty of care to ensure that the charities they support exhibit good governance rooted in the principles of transparency and accountability.

Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: MayoBuck on September 27, 2019, 10:46:35 AM
We only know one side of the story at the minute but from Tim O'Leary's POV, he wants assurances that the remainder of the money will be invested in the academy squads or the Lough Lannagh training facility. He doesn't want it spent on some day to day costs, i.e. senior team expenses or the MacHale Park loan.

Why can't these assurances be provided? It would be interesting to hear what issues the county board has?
this reminds me a bit of the Cat scan and dialysis machines   charities buy  for hospitals and then there is not the Staff to run them and they are left idle for years .
like it or not the County board are in charge of the GAA in Mayo and have to take an overall view of finances and not just vanity   Projects instigated by people who seem willing clear off at he first opportunity when they Don't get their own way.

Well that "vanity project" is going ahead anyway in partnership with Mayo county council so I don't see what the problem is. Tim O'Leary obviously wants something to show for his money. He's delivering 750 ONeills footballs to the clubs in Mayo this week so there is no sign that he's clearing off.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: joemamas on September 27, 2019, 01:52:59 PM
We only know one side of the story at the minute but from Tim O'Leary's POV, he wants assurances that the remainder of the money will be invested in the academy squads or the Lough Lannagh training facility. He doesn't want it spent on some day to day costs, i.e. senior team expenses or the MacHale Park loan.

Why can't these assurances be provided? It would be interesting to hear what issues the county board has?

I would agree with this. He wanted too see plans for the centre of excellence to be built (which isn't unreasonable as he is paying for majority of it) and the county board seem to just telling him, ah sure it's grand don't worry about it. Seems reasonable enough to withhold funding based on this.

+1, He seems like a genuine supporter IMO, btw to put it mildly the Mayo county board does not have too many Mensa applicants.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on September 27, 2019, 02:01:28 PM
We only know one side of the story at the minute but from Tim O'Leary's POV, he wants assurances that the remainder of the money will be invested in the academy squads or the Lough Lannagh training facility. He doesn't want it spent on some day to day costs, i.e. senior team expenses or the MacHale Park loan.

Why can't these assurances be provided? It would be interesting to hear what issues the county board has?
this reminds me a bit of the Cat scan and dialysis machines   charities buy  for hospitals and then there is not the Staff to run them and they are left idle for years .
like it or not the County board are in charge of the GAA in Mayo and have to take an overall view of finances and not just vanity   Projects instigated by people who seem willing clear off at he first opportunity when they Don't get their own way.

They asked him for a contribution to their project. He agreed. They didn't move on with the project but want the money anyway. He said no.

The idea he is imposing is just wrong.

There is always a toadie who will back the organisation even when they are wrong
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: rosnarun on September 27, 2019, 02:43:59 PM
We only know one side of the story at the minute but from Tim O'Leary's POV, he wants assurances that the remainder of the money will be invested in the academy squads or the Lough Lannagh training facility. He doesn't want it spent on some day to day costs, i.e. senior team expenses or the MacHale Park loan.

Why can't these assurances be provided? It would be interesting to hear what issues the county board has?
this reminds me a bit of the Cat scan and dialysis machines   charities buy  for hospitals and then there is not the Staff to run them and they are left idle for years .
like it or not the County board are in charge of the GAA in Mayo and have to take an overall view of finances and not just vanity   Projects instigated by people who seem willing clear off at he first opportunity when they Don't get their own way.

They asked him for a contribution to their project. He agreed. They didn't move on with the project but want the money anyway. He said no.

The idea he is imposing is just wrong.

There is always a toadie who will back the organisation even when they are wrong
We only know one side of the story at the minute but from Tim O'Leary's POV, he wants assurances that the remainder of the money will be invested in the academy squads or the Lough Lannagh training facility. He doesn't want it spent on some day to day costs, i.e. senior team expenses or the MacHale Park loan.

Why can't these assurances be provided? It would be interesting to hear what issues the county board has?
this reminds me a bit of the Cat scan and dialysis machines   charities buy  for hospitals and then there is not the Staff to run them and they are left idle for years .
like it or not the County board are in charge of the GAA in Mayo and have to take an overall view of finances and not just vanity   Projects instigated by people who seem willing clear off at he first opportunity when they Don't get their own way.

Rosnarun, play the ball not the man. The Supporters Foundation was set-up as a 501c3 Corporation to aid with meeting compliance obligations related to fundraising in the states. One of those obligations is that Trustees, like Mr. O'Leary, have a duty of care to ensure that the charities they support exhibit good governance rooted in the principles of transparency and accountability.



I love when a new board member joins for a specific purpose . I am not attacking o leary at all I know nothing about the man other the article posted here earlier from the daily mail.
my uneasiness come's from the fear he is a tourist with no credentials other than money  and to Quote Shania twain ' that don't impress me much'
Much as people seem to distrust the county board they are Elected by the counties club are are answerable to those clubs . people like o leary  are answerable to no one .
While he money is welcome he should have no say in the running of Mayo GAA other than advisory and stop trying to shame the CB
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: fearsiuil on September 27, 2019, 05:19:12 PM
We only know one side of the story at the minute but from Tim O'Leary's POV, he wants assurances that the remainder of the money will be invested in the academy squads or the Lough Lannagh training facility. He doesn't want it spent on some day to day costs, i.e. senior team expenses or the MacHale Park loan.

Why can't these assurances be provided? It would be interesting to hear what issues the county board has?
this reminds me a bit of the Cat scan and dialysis machines   charities buy  for hospitals and then there is not the Staff to run them and they are left idle for years .
like it or not the County board are in charge of the GAA in Mayo and have to take an overall view of finances and not just vanity   Projects instigated by people who seem willing clear off at he first opportunity when they Don't get their own way.

They asked him for a contribution to their project. He agreed. They didn't move on with the project but want the money anyway. He said no.

The idea he is imposing is just wrong.

There is always a toadie who will back the organisation even when they are wrong
We only know one side of the story at the minute but from Tim O'Leary's POV, he wants assurances that the remainder of the money will be invested in the academy squads or the Lough Lannagh training facility. He doesn't want it spent on some day to day costs, i.e. senior team expenses or the MacHale Park loan.

Why can't these assurances be provided? It would be interesting to hear what issues the county board has?
this reminds me a bit of the Cat scan and dialysis machines   charities buy  for hospitals and then there is not the Staff to run them and they are left idle for years .
like it or not the County board are in charge of the GAA in Mayo and have to take an overall view of finances and not just vanity   Projects instigated by people who seem willing clear off at he first opportunity when they Don't get their own way.

Rosnarun, play the ball not the man. The Supporters Foundation was set-up as a 501c3 Corporation to aid with meeting compliance obligations related to fundraising in the states. One of those obligations is that Trustees, like Mr. O'Leary, have a duty of care to ensure that the charities they support exhibit good governance rooted in the principles of transparency and accountability.



I love when a new board member joins for a specific purpose . I am not attacking o leary at all I know nothing about the man other the article posted here earlier from the daily mail.
my uneasiness come's from the fear he is a tourist with no credentials other than money  and to Quote Shania twain ' that don't impress me much'
Much as people seem to distrust the county board they are Elected by the counties club are are answerable to those clubs . people like o leary  are answerable to no one .
While he money is welcome he should have no say in the running of Mayo GAA other than advisory and stop trying to shame the CB
Your application for Mensa has not been successful this time.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on September 27, 2019, 06:44:43 PM
We only know one side of the story at the minute but from Tim O'Leary's POV, he wants assurances that the remainder of the money will be invested in the academy squads or the Lough Lannagh training facility. He doesn't want it spent on some day to day costs, i.e. senior team expenses or the MacHale Park loan.

Why can't these assurances be provided? It would be interesting to hear what issues the county board has?
this reminds me a bit of the Cat scan and dialysis machines   charities buy  for hospitals and then there is not the Staff to run them and they are left idle for years .
like it or not the County board are in charge of the GAA in Mayo and have to take an overall view of finances and not just vanity   Projects instigated by people who seem willing clear off at he first opportunity when they Don't get their own way.

They asked him for a contribution to their project. He agreed. They didn't move on with the project but want the money anyway. He said no.

The idea he is imposing is just wrong.

There is always a toadie who will back the organisation even when they are wrong
We only know one side of the story at the minute but from Tim O'Leary's POV, he wants assurances that the remainder of the money will be invested in the academy squads or the Lough Lannagh training facility. He doesn't want it spent on some day to day costs, i.e. senior team expenses or the MacHale Park loan.

Why can't these assurances be provided? It would be interesting to hear what issues the county board has?
this reminds me a bit of the Cat scan and dialysis machines   charities buy  for hospitals and then there is not the Staff to run them and they are left idle for years .
like it or not the County board are in charge of the GAA in Mayo and have to take an overall view of finances and not just vanity   Projects instigated by people who seem willing clear off at he first opportunity when they Don't get their own way.

Rosnarun, play the ball not the man. The Supporters Foundation was set-up as a 501c3 Corporation to aid with meeting compliance obligations related to fundraising in the states. One of those obligations is that Trustees, like Mr. O'Leary, have a duty of care to ensure that the charities they support exhibit good governance rooted in the principles of transparency and accountability.



I love when a new board member joins for a specific purpose . I am not attacking o leary at all I know nothing about the man other the article posted here earlier from the daily mail.
my uneasiness come's from the fear he is a tourist with no credentials other than money  and to Quote Shania twain ' that don't impress me much'
Much as people seem to distrust the county board they are Elected by the counties club are are answerable to those clubs . people like o leary  are answerable to no one .
While he money is welcome he should have no say in the running of Mayo GAA other than advisory and stop trying to shame the CB

Oh dear. Thats awful shite.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: EBX on September 27, 2019, 08:31:18 PM

I love when a new board member joins for a specific purpose . I am not attacking o leary at all I know nothing about the man other the article posted here earlier from the daily mail.
my uneasiness come's from the fear he is a tourist with no credentials other than money  and to Quote Shania twain ' that don't impress me much'
Much as people seem to distrust the county board they are Elected by the counties club are are answerable to those clubs . people like o leary  are answerable to no one .
While he money is welcome he should have no say in the running of Mayo GAA other than advisory and stop trying to shame the CB

Actually, joined a year ago last September so you're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts...…..

You say you're not bashing Mr. O'Leary but then you dismiss him out of hand with as a tourist with no credentials other than money. What do you base this on? What particular knowledge do you have of him other than what you read in the Daily Ranger?

Maybe if you did your homework you would know that he has supported Burrishoole for a number of years.

Maybe if you did your homework you would understand that he is not trying to tell the County Board how to do their job but he is trying to do the job required of him as the Trustee of a charitable foundation, a foundation whose by-laws, make plain that the Foundation is raising funds not just for the Senior Footballers but for the Gaelic Games, as a whole, in the county and by Gaelic Games that includes the Hurling Clubs which our County Board tried to stiff last year when the JP McManus bequest was received.

So, before you say anything in reply, keep the counsel of Abraham Lincoln and remember that "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt."
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: weareros on September 27, 2019, 09:46:39 PM
Agree with Rosnarun. A sponsor does not get the right to bring county GAA into disrepute. Maybe because he works in finance thinks he can act like big shareholder or activist investor. This is a troubling development.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: heffo on September 27, 2019, 10:37:04 PM

I love when a new board member joins for a specific purpose . I am not attacking o leary at all I know nothing about the man other the article posted here earlier from the daily mail.
my uneasiness come's from the fear he is a tourist with no credentials other than money  and to Quote Shania twain ' that don't impress me much'
Much as people seem to distrust the county board they are Elected by the counties club are are answerable to those clubs . people like o leary  are answerable to no one .
While he money is welcome he should have no say in the running of Mayo GAA other than advisory and stop trying to shame the CB

last year when the JP McManus bequest was received.


Its no wonder the County Treasurer cant produce a Balance sheet with the amount of money coming in hand over fist.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: manfromdelmonte on September 28, 2019, 09:08:53 AM
Why do Mayo need a COE when there's already one beside Ballyhaunis?
Will it be the only county in Ireland with two COEs?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: From the Bunker on September 28, 2019, 09:29:38 AM
Why do Mayo need a COE when there's already one beside Ballyhaunis?
Will it be the only county in Ireland with two COEs?

God only knows? In theory the one is Bekan is for all of Conncht! And in fairness in has to be in some county.

Always though Cake Curran had the right idea where he thought Westmeath and Roscommon should pool their resources and have a centre on excellence in Athlone. 
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Rossfan on September 28, 2019, 09:56:11 AM
Cake wanted a new joint  Stadium !!
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: shark on September 28, 2019, 10:27:29 AM
Why do Mayo need a COE when there's already one beside Ballyhaunis?
Will it be the only county in Ireland with two COEs?

God only knows? In theory the one is Bekan is for all of Conncht! And in fairness in has to be in some county.

Always though Cake Curran had the right idea where he thought Westmeath and Roscommon should pool their resources and have a centre on excellence in Athlone.

Westmeath a duel county. Their hurlers would be as quick going to Abbotstown as Athlone.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Halfquarter on September 28, 2019, 10:56:20 AM

I love when a new board member joins for a specific purpose . I am not attacking o leary at all I know nothing about the man other the article posted here earlier from the daily mail.
my uneasiness come's from the fear he is a tourist with no credentials other than money  and to Quote Shania twain ' that don't impress me much'
Much as people seem to distrust the county board they are Elected by the counties club are are answerable to those clubs . people like o leary  are answerable to no one .
While he money is welcome he should have no say in the running of Mayo GAA other than advisory and stop trying to shame the CB

last year when the JP McManus bequest was received.


Its no wonder the County Treasurer cant produce a Balance sheet with the amount of money coming in hand over fist.

Not really,JP McManus’ gave a €100,000 donation to each county.
Enclosed in each envelope was an the accompanying note outlining how the money is for the development of GAA across the country and to be divided equally among clubs.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: From the Bunker on September 28, 2019, 01:08:18 PM
Cake wanted a new joint  Stadium !!

Yeah, that was part of the overall package. Would have been a money earner as well as all those Intercounty and Club teams that would have been willing to use it over the summer.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Rossfan on September 28, 2019, 05:11:59 PM
Twas a total non starter. Just Cake writing for an Athlone paper.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: From the Bunker on September 28, 2019, 05:54:34 PM
Twas a total non starter. Just Cake writing for an Athlone paper.

Of course it was a non-starter. But it was a purely logical solution, so it'd be never agreed to.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: heffo on September 28, 2019, 08:36:05 PM

I love when a new board member joins for a specific purpose . I am not attacking o leary at all I know nothing about the man other the article posted here earlier from the daily mail.
my uneasiness come's from the fear he is a tourist with no credentials other than money  and to Quote Shania twain ' that don't impress me much'
Much as people seem to distrust the county board they are Elected by the counties club are are answerable to those clubs . people like o leary  are answerable to no one .
While he money is welcome he should have no say in the running of Mayo GAA other than advisory and stop trying to shame the CB

last year when the JP McManus bequest was received.


Its no wonder the County Treasurer cant produce a Balance sheet with the amount of money coming in hand over fist.

Not really,JP McManus’ gave a €100,000 donation to each county.
Enclosed in each envelope was an the accompanying note outlining how the money is for the development of GAA across the country and to be divided equally among clubs.

Was O'Leary one of the 'several influential backers' who wanted rid of Rochford?.

Why was he on the team bus and what did he get turfed off for?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: rosnarun on September 30, 2019, 12:11:28 PM

I love when a new board member joins for a specific purpose . I am not attacking o leary at all I know nothing about the man other the article posted here earlier from the daily mail.
my uneasiness come's from the fear he is a tourist with no credentials other than money  and to Quote Shania twain ' that don't impress me much'
Much as people seem to distrust the county board they are Elected by the counties club are are answerable to those clubs . people like o leary  are answerable to no one .
While he money is welcome he should have no say in the running of Mayo GAA other than advisory and stop trying to shame the CB

last year when the JP McManus bequest was received.


Its no wonder the County Treasurer cant produce a Balance sheet with the amount of money coming in hand over fist.

Not really,JP McManus’ gave a €100,000 donation to each county.
Enclosed in each envelope was an the accompanying note outlining how the money is for the development of GAA across the country and to be divided equally among clubs.
the big difference is he handed over the money with a polite Request . he did not try and try to force  the county boards  hand and hold off on the Gift until every one agreed with him.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Rossfan on September 30, 2019, 12:37:51 PM
Twas a total non starter. Just Cake writing for an Athlone paper.

Of course it was a non-starter. But it was a purely logical solution, so it'd be never agreed to.
A logical solution to a non existent problem as Ros have our own Stadium.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on September 30, 2019, 05:00:22 PM

I love when a new board member joins for a specific purpose . I am not attacking o leary at all I know nothing about the man other the article posted here earlier from the daily mail.
my uneasiness come's from the fear he is a tourist with no credentials other than money  and to Quote Shania twain ' that don't impress me much'
Much as people seem to distrust the county board they are Elected by the counties club are are answerable to those clubs . people like o leary  are answerable to no one .
While he money is welcome he should have no say in the running of Mayo GAA other than advisory and stop trying to shame the CB

last year when the JP McManus bequest was received.


Its no wonder the County Treasurer cant produce a Balance sheet with the amount of money coming in hand over fist.

Not really,JP McManus’ gave a €100,000 donation to each county.
Enclosed in each envelope was an the accompanying note outlining how the money is for the development of GAA across the country and to be divided equally among clubs.
the big difference is he handed over the money with a polite Request . he did not try and try to force  the county boards  hand and hold off on the Gift until every one agreed with him.

You make it sound like the CoE was his idea
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: TheGreatest on October 01, 2019, 08:54:13 AM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.




Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: MayoBuck on October 01, 2019, 09:18:58 AM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.

You see it across the country where individuals put money into their county. Declan Kelly Tipperary, JP McManus Limerick, Bertie Ahern and the €5m to Dublin.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: TheGreatest on October 01, 2019, 09:21:38 AM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.

You see it across the country where individuals put money into their county. Declan Kelly Tipperary, JP McManus Limerick, Bertie Ahern and the €5m to Dublin.

As i said Double standards, At least other counties can put it to use, not a hope in Mayo. Dont even have the competence to accept free financial gifts.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: MayoBuck on October 01, 2019, 09:24:38 AM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.

You see it across the country where individuals put money into their county. Declan Kelly Tipperary, JP McManus Limerick, Bertie Ahern and the €5m to Dublin.

As i said Double standards, At least other counties can put it to use, not a hope in Mayo. Dont even have the competence to accept free financial gifts.

I suppose it's difficult when you have actual volunteers trying to run the county board. There are several full time administrators in your own county for example.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on October 01, 2019, 01:02:15 PM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.

You see it across the country where individuals put money into their county. Declan Kelly Tipperary, JP McManus Limerick, Bertie Ahern and the €5m to Dublin.

As i said Double standards, At least other counties can put it to use, not a hope in Mayo. Dont even have the competence to accept free financial gifts.

I suppose it's difficult when you have actual volunteers trying to run the county board. There are several full time administrators in your own county for example.

Then take money from donors and hire some people.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Halfquarter on October 01, 2019, 03:52:24 PM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.

It would take incredible incompetence on the part of Dublin,not to win the All Ireland every year, given the advantages that they currently enjoy.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Crete Boom on October 01, 2019, 04:31:13 PM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.

You see it across the country where individuals put money into their county. Declan Kelly Tipperary, JP McManus Limerick, Bertie Ahern and the €5m to Dublin.

As i said Double standards, At least other counties can put it to use, not a hope in Mayo. Dont even have the competence to accept free financial gifts.

I suppose it's difficult when you have actual volunteers trying to run the county board. There are several full time administrators in your own county for example.

Then take money from donors and hire some people.
Unfortunately money from donors is not a fixed income that can be budgeted to pay the annual salary or salaries for full time administrators let alone a CEO position. The only fixed income outside of gate receipts for a county like Mayo is sponsorship and most of this money is sucked up by day to day stuff like insurance, debt repayments, team expenses and coaching. Team expenses are the most frustrating since stuff like travel expenses and backroom teams to stay relevant or just compete are spiraling out of control but sponsorship and gate receipts depend on the level of success of a county team so it is a catch 22 situation!!
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: magpie seanie on October 01, 2019, 05:08:06 PM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.

It would take incredible incompetence on the part of Dublin,not to win the All Ireland every year, given the advantages that they currently enjoy.


Are you mad or did you not read what you typed? Did you see the All Ireland final(s)? Did you see the recent finals where they just about scraped past Mayo, once after a replay, after epic games?

Ridiculous statements like this do nothing for anyone.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Halfquarter on October 01, 2019, 05:31:39 PM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.

It would take incredible incompetence on the part of Dublin,not to win the All Ireland every year, given the advantages that they currently enjoy.


Are you mad or did you not read what you typed? Did you see the All Ireland final(s)? Did you see the recent finals where they just about scraped past Mayo, once after a replay, after epic games?

Ridiculous statements like this do nothing for anyone.

Yes, you are of course correct, they only scraped a win in 14 of the last 15 Leinster Finals and only scraped wins in 7 of the last 9 All Ireland's .
They only beat Kerry by 6 points this year. A pity that they couldn't get a man sent off in the first half and the result might have been a bit closer.
Your right, I'm probably mad.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: dublin7 on October 01, 2019, 05:39:49 PM
When was the last time Kerry were beatin in Munster or someone won it who wasn't Cork or Kerry?

No seems to care about that. Why are peolle so angry at dublin getting their house in order and at the same time as they have their greatest manager and some players who will be considered all greats?

Typical Irish ignorance in that there are numerous counties underachieving around the country but people are instead obsessing on trying to weaken dublin as they feel they are performing too well
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Rossfan on October 01, 2019, 05:47:55 PM
Munster is hurling country apart from Kerry.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Halfquarter on October 01, 2019, 07:27:59 PM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.

It would take incredible incompetence on the part of Dublin,not to win the All Ireland every year, given the advantages that they currently enjoy.


Are you mad or did you not read what you typed? Did you see the All Ireland final(s)? Did you see the recent finals where they just about scraped past Mayo, once after a replay, after epic games?

Ridiculous statements like this do nothing for anyone.

Yes, you are of course correct, they only scraped a win in 14 of the last 15 Leinster Finals and only scraped wins in 7 of the last 9 All Ireland's .
They only beat Kerry by 6 points this year. A pity that they couldn't get a man sent off in the first half and the result might have been a bit closer.
Your right, I'm probably mad.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on October 01, 2019, 08:38:35 PM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.

You see it across the country where individuals put money into their county. Declan Kelly Tipperary, JP McManus Limerick, Bertie Ahern and the €5m to Dublin.

As i said Double standards, At least other counties can put it to use, not a hope in Mayo. Dont even have the competence to accept free financial gifts.

I suppose it's difficult when you have actual volunteers trying to run the county board. There are several full time administrators in your own county for example.

Then take money from donors and hire some people.
Unfortunately money from donors is not a fixed income that can be budgeted to pay the annual salary or salaries for full time administrators let alone a CEO position. The only fixed income outside of gate receipts for a county like Mayo is sponsorship and most of this money is sucked up by day to day stuff like insurance, debt repayments, team expenses and coaching. Team expenses are the most frustrating since stuff like travel expenses and backroom teams to stay relevant or just compete are spiraling out of control but sponsorship and gate receipts depend on the level of success of a county team so it is a catch 22 situation!!

And they are out of control because you don't have the people in place to control it... Structures first, sun holidays second.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: MayoBuck on October 01, 2019, 08:47:56 PM
https://www.supermacs.ie/supermacs-statement-re-galway-gaa-finances/

Fair play to Galway and the FAI taking the heat off our administration problems.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: dublin7 on October 01, 2019, 08:49:23 PM
Fair play to Supermacs for asking the Galway CB for a breakdown of how their sponsorship was spent in the last few years. It's not at all surprising given the shambolic(I'd use another term but have to be careful) behaviour of the county board.

Pricey and a few others are so obsessed with GAA funding/spending they should go investigate that. Without going into specifics it sounds alot more disgraceful than anything about Dublin. That should be the real target for their anger/bitterness instead of crying over dublin actually doing the right things
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Crete Boom on October 01, 2019, 09:43:02 PM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.

You see it across the country where individuals put money into their county. Declan Kelly Tipperary, JP McManus Limerick, Bertie Ahern and the €5m to Dublin.

As i said Double standards, At least other counties can put it to use, not a hope in Mayo. Dont even have the competence to accept free financial gifts.

I suppose it's difficult when you have actual volunteers trying to run the county board. There are several full time administrators in your own county for example.

Then take money from donors and hire some people.
Unfortunately money from donors is not a fixed income that can be budgeted to pay the annual salary or salaries for full time administrators let alone a CEO position. The only fixed income outside of gate receipts for a county like Mayo is sponsorship and most of this money is sucked up by day to day stuff like insurance, debt repayments, team expenses and coaching. Team expenses are the most frustrating since stuff like travel expenses and backroom teams to stay relevant or just compete are spiraling out of control but sponsorship and gate receipts depend on the level of success of a county team so it is a catch 22 situation!!

And they are out of control because you don't have the people in place to control it... Structures first, sun holidays second.

Sun holidays are fundraised each year seperately through an online lotto for mayo supporters and wouldn't be high up the list of priorities or a significant drain on resources.The structures in place in terms of fundraising and coaching development like the Mayo way are probably the best volunteers can manage in fairness. Travel expenses for players, s&c, underage coaching, stadium debt, insurance costs, running costs of the stadium, renting training pitches to suit players based in the east of the country would all be a much bigger drain on resources, this has increased all just to try and compete in division one and in the super 8's. Luckily we have local coaching teams to reduce the hit at all levels but these costs are significant that all the top counties have to endure except maybe the travel expenses. Again the resources are not there while trying to just stay competitive. If Mayo are not competitive then income reduces significantly through lack of season ticket sales and less sponsorship etc..!!
Realistically Mayo would need significant increase of central funding from the gaa to put in place a paid CEO at the outset but the gaa have decided to tie up these funds elsewhere and Mayo don't have the corporate pull to attract the sponsorship Dublin or Kerry or Cork do and the only way around this is to employ and experienced CEO they cannot afford to maximise the sponsorship they could attract!! Maybe in 10 or 15 years when the stadium debt is reduced a fulltime CEO could be put in place but there might not be much to manage by then so it is a catch 22 situation for Mayo and many other counties I guess.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Dubhaltach on October 01, 2019, 11:31:33 PM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.

You see it across the country where individuals put money into their county. Declan Kelly Tipperary, JP McManus Limerick, Bertie Ahern and the €5m to Dublin.

As i said Double standards, At least other counties can put it to use, not a hope in Mayo. Dont even have the competence to accept free financial gifts.

I suppose it's difficult when you have actual volunteers trying to run the county board. There are several full time administrators in your own county for example.

Then take money from donors and hire some people.
Unfortunately money from donors is not a fixed income that can be budgeted to pay the annual salary or salaries for full time administrators let alone a CEO position. The only fixed income outside of gate receipts for a county like Mayo is sponsorship and most of this money is sucked up by day to day stuff like insurance, debt repayments, team expenses and coaching. Team expenses are the most frustrating since stuff like travel expenses and backroom teams to stay relevant or just compete are spiraling out of control but sponsorship and gate receipts depend on the level of success of a county team so it is a catch 22 situation!!

And they are out of control because you don't have the people in place to control it... Structures first, sun holidays second.

Talk about ignorance!  Ya, maybe it's the sun holidays.

Or..... maybe it might have something to do with the fact that the Mayo county board have to pay 33 grand every month to pay for the debt on our county ground, something the Dubs will never have to worry about as neutral Croke Park is handed over to them.

Also, unlike the dubs, a large section of our players and backroom team have to travel the breadth of the country a couple of times a week which could have something to do with the large expenses bill.

Or maybe it's just that Dublin have better people in place ::)
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: manfromdelmonte on October 02, 2019, 03:26:38 AM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.

You see it across the country where individuals put money into their county. Declan Kelly Tipperary, JP McManus Limerick, Bertie Ahern and the €5m to Dublin.

As i said Double standards, At least other counties can put it to use, not a hope in Mayo. Dont even have the competence to accept free financial gifts.

I suppose it's difficult when you have actual volunteers trying to run the county board. There are several full time administrators in your own county for example.

Then take money from donors and hire some people.
Unfortunately money from donors is not a fixed income that can be budgeted to pay the annual salary or salaries for full time administrators let alone a CEO position. The only fixed income outside of gate receipts for a county like Mayo is sponsorship and most of this money is sucked up by day to day stuff like insurance, debt repayments, team expenses and coaching. Team expenses are the most frustrating since stuff like travel expenses and backroom teams to stay relevant or just compete are spiraling out of control but sponsorship and gate receipts depend on the level of success of a county team so it is a catch 22 situation!!

And they are out of control because you don't have the people in place to control it... Structures first, sun holidays second.

Talk about ignorance!  Ya, maybe it's the sun holidays.

Or..... maybe it might have something to do with the fact that the Mayo county board have to pay 33 grand every month to pay for the debt on our county ground, something the Dubs will never have to worry about as neutral Croke Park is handed over to them.

Also, unlike the dubs, a large section of our players and backroom team have to travel the breadth of the country a couple of times a week which could have something to do with the large expenses bill.

Or maybe it's just that Dublin have better people in place ::)
Mayo volunteers are only worth a quarter of the Dubs lads
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: magpie seanie on October 02, 2019, 09:36:10 AM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.

It would take incredible incompetence on the part of Dublin,not to win the All Ireland every year, given the advantages that they currently enjoy.


Are you mad or did you not read what you typed? Did you see the All Ireland final(s)? Did you see the recent finals where they just about scraped past Mayo, once after a replay, after epic games?

Ridiculous statements like this do nothing for anyone.

Yes, you are of course correct, they only scraped a win in 14 of the last 15 Leinster Finals and only scraped wins in 7 of the last 9 All Ireland's .
They only beat Kerry by 6 points this year. A pity that they couldn't get a man sent off in the first half and the result might have been a bit closer.
Your right, I'm probably mad.


Don't talk crap about Leinster titles when you said - It would take incredible incompetence on the part of Dublin,not to win the All Ireland every year, given the advantages that they currently enjoy.


That statement implies that even if they're a little incompetent they'll win the All Ireland every year. Absolute bullshit and up there with the biggest bullshit I've ever read on here and that's a high bar.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Halfquarter on October 02, 2019, 11:05:23 PM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.

It would take incredible incompetence on the part of Dublin,not to win the All Ireland every year, given the advantages that they currently enjoy.


Are you mad or did you not read what you typed? Did you see the All Ireland final(s)? Did you see the recent finals where they just about scraped past Mayo, once after a replay, after epic games?

Ridiculous statements like this do nothing for anyone.

Yes, you are of course correct, they only scraped a win in 14 of the last 15 Leinster Finals and only scraped wins in 7 of the last 9 All Ireland's .
They only beat Kerry by 6 points this year. A pity that they couldn't get a man sent off in the first half and the result might have been a bit closer.
Your right, I'm probably mad.


Don't talk crap about Leinster titles when you said - It would take incredible incompetence on the part of Dublin,not to win the All Ireland every year, given the advantages that they currently enjoy.


That statement implies that even if they're a little incompetent they'll win the All Ireland every year. Absolute bullshit and up there with the biggest bullshit I've ever read on here and that's a high bar.
f you read what I said, I did  not imply ‘ a little incompetence ‘ I stated plainly  ‘ incredible incompetence ‘.
It would take an almost unfathomable degree of managerial incompetence to fail to win with this team.
That is my opinion , you are of course correct , nobody should have the temerity to express an opinion that is different to yours , which you have so  eloquently expressed. ( not ) .
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: dublin7 on October 03, 2019, 09:13:02 AM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.

It would take incredible incompetence on the part of Dublin,not to win the All Ireland every year, given the advantages that they currently enjoy.


Are you mad or did you not read what you typed? Did you see the All Ireland final(s)? Did you see the recent finals where they just about scraped past Mayo, once after a replay, after epic games?

Ridiculous statements like this do nothing for anyone.

Yes, you are of course correct, they only scraped a win in 14 of the last 15 Leinster Finals and only scraped wins in 7 of the last 9 All Ireland's .
They only beat Kerry by 6 points this year. A pity that they couldn't get a man sent off in the first half and the result might have been a bit closer.
Your right, I'm probably mad.


Don't talk crap about Leinster titles when you said - It would take incredible incompetence on the part of Dublin,not to win the All Ireland every year, given the advantages that they currently enjoy.


That statement implies that even if they're a little incompetent they'll win the All Ireland every year. Absolute bullshit and up there with the biggest bullshit I've ever read on here and that's a high bar.
f you read what I said, I did  not imply ‘ a little incompetence ‘ I stated plainly  ‘ incredible incompetence ‘.
It would take an almost unfathomable degree of managerial incompetence to fail to win with this team.
That is my opinion , you are of course correct , nobody should have the temerity to express an opinion the is different to yours , which you have so  eloquently expressed. ( not ) .

If it's so easy to manage teams then why don't you take on a managerial job? or based on your post are managers irrelevant and county boards should just put 15 players on a pitch and let them play away on their own?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: magpie seanie on October 03, 2019, 09:43:39 AM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.

It would take incredible incompetence on the part of Dublin,not to win the All Ireland every year, given the advantages that they currently enjoy.


Are you mad or did you not read what you typed? Did you see the All Ireland final(s)? Did you see the recent finals where they just about scraped past Mayo, once after a replay, after epic games?

Ridiculous statements like this do nothing for anyone.

Yes, you are of course correct, they only scraped a win in 14 of the last 15 Leinster Finals and only scraped wins in 7 of the last 9 All Ireland's .
They only beat Kerry by 6 points this year. A pity that they couldn't get a man sent off in the first half and the result might have been a bit closer.
Your right, I'm probably mad.


Don't talk crap about Leinster titles when you said - It would take incredible incompetence on the part of Dublin,not to win the All Ireland every year, given the advantages that they currently enjoy.


That statement implies that even if they're a little incompetent they'll win the All Ireland every year. Absolute bullshit and up there with the biggest bullshit I've ever read on here and that's a high bar.
f you read what I said, I did  not imply ‘ a little incompetence ‘ I stated plainly  ‘ incredible incompetence ‘.
It would take an almost unfathomable degree of managerial incompetence to fail to win with this team.
That is my opinion , you are of course correct , nobody should have the temerity to express an opinion the is different to yours , which you have so  eloquently expressed. ( not ) .


I've no issue with someone holding a different opinion than myself. In fact it's your reaction that suggests you have the problem in that regard. To me, the above statement is so wrong it's difficult to believe. Dublin have been managed brilliantly by Jim Gavin and his team. Prepared probably as perfectly as any team could be. Devised a tactical approach after getting caught out by ultra defensive tactics which has effectively ended those tactics. Yet they easily could have lost the finals in 2011, 2013, 2016, 2017 and 2019 - opponents missing chances or getting players sent off possibly saving Dublin on those occasions (maybe not 2011 but Kerry were 4 up with 10 minutes left in that one). Perhaps they should have lost a couple of those. Surely Jim Gavin and co have added something??? Or maybe they've bordered on "an almost unfathomable degree of managerial incompetence" as they're almost failed to win with this team a few times.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 03, 2019, 09:55:25 AM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.

It would take incredible incompetence on the part of Dublin,not to win the All Ireland every year, given the advantages that they currently enjoy.


Are you mad or did you not read what you typed? Did you see the All Ireland final(s)? Did you see the recent finals where they just about scraped past Mayo, once after a replay, after epic games?

Ridiculous statements like this do nothing for anyone.

Yes, you are of course correct, they only scraped a win in 14 of the last 15 Leinster Finals and only scraped wins in 7 of the last 9 All Ireland's .
They only beat Kerry by 6 points this year. A pity that they couldn't get a man sent off in the first half and the result might have been a bit closer.
Your right, I'm probably mad.


Don't talk crap about Leinster titles when you said - It would take incredible incompetence on the part of Dublin,not to win the All Ireland every year, given the advantages that they currently enjoy.


That statement implies that even if they're a little incompetent they'll win the All Ireland every year. Absolute bullshit and up there with the biggest bullshit I've ever read on here and that's a high bar.
f you read what I said, I did  not imply ‘ a little incompetence ‘ I stated plainly  ‘ incredible incompetence ‘.
It would take an almost unfathomable degree of managerial incompetence to fail to win with this team.
That is my opinion , you are of course correct , nobody should have the temerity to express an opinion the is different to yours , which you have so  eloquently expressed. ( not ) .


I've no issue with someone holding a different opinion than myself. In fact it's your reaction that suggests you have the problem in that regard. To me, the above statement is so wrong it's difficult to believe. Dublin have been managed brilliantly by Jim Gavin and his team. Prepared probably as perfectly as any team could be. Devised a tactical approach after getting caught out by ultra defensive tactics which has effectively ended those tactics. Yet they easily could have lost the finals in 2011, 2013, 2016, 2017 and 2019 - opponents missing chances or getting players sent off possibly saving Dublin on those occasions (maybe not 2011 but Kerry were 4 up with 10 minutes left in that one). Perhaps they should have lost a couple of those. Surely Jim Gavin and co have added something??? Or maybe they've bordered on "an almost unfathomable degree of managerial incompetence" as they're almost failed to win with this team a few times.

But they won them. That's all that matters. The 'epic losses' won't be written in the roll of honour. And the Mayo choke brigade have a field day too.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on October 03, 2019, 02:11:41 PM
Mayo being badly run turns into an anti Dub thread
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: magpie seanie on October 04, 2019, 10:35:30 AM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.

It would take incredible incompetence on the part of Dublin,not to win the All Ireland every year, given the advantages that they currently enjoy.


Are you mad or did you not read what you typed? Did you see the All Ireland final(s)? Did you see the recent finals where they just about scraped past Mayo, once after a replay, after epic games?

Ridiculous statements like this do nothing for anyone.

Yes, you are of course correct, they only scraped a win in 14 of the last 15 Leinster Finals and only scraped wins in 7 of the last 9 All Ireland's .
They only beat Kerry by 6 points this year. A pity that they couldn't get a man sent off in the first half and the result might have been a bit closer.
Your right, I'm probably mad.


Don't talk crap about Leinster titles when you said - It would take incredible incompetence on the part of Dublin,not to win the All Ireland every year, given the advantages that they currently enjoy.


That statement implies that even if they're a little incompetent they'll win the All Ireland every year. Absolute bullshit and up there with the biggest bullshit I've ever read on here and that's a high bar.
f you read what I said, I did  not imply ‘ a little incompetence ‘ I stated plainly  ‘ incredible incompetence ‘.
It would take an almost unfathomable degree of managerial incompetence to fail to win with this team.
That is my opinion , you are of course correct , nobody should have the temerity to express an opinion the is different to yours , which you have so  eloquently expressed. ( not ) .


I've no issue with someone holding a different opinion than myself. In fact it's your reaction that suggests you have the problem in that regard. To me, the above statement is so wrong it's difficult to believe. Dublin have been managed brilliantly by Jim Gavin and his team. Prepared probably as perfectly as any team could be. Devised a tactical approach after getting caught out by ultra defensive tactics which has effectively ended those tactics. Yet they easily could have lost the finals in 2011, 2013, 2016, 2017 and 2019 - opponents missing chances or getting players sent off possibly saving Dublin on those occasions (maybe not 2011 but Kerry were 4 up with 10 minutes left in that one). Perhaps they should have lost a couple of those. Surely Jim Gavin and co have added something??? Or maybe they've bordered on "an almost unfathomable degree of managerial incompetence" as they're almost failed to win with this team a few times.

But they won them. That's all that matters. The 'epic losses' won't be written in the roll of honour. And the Mayo choke brigade have a field day too.


Are you deliberately missing the point or do you also think "It would take incredible incompetence on the part of Dublin,not to win the All Ireland every year..." ?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: dublin7 on October 04, 2019, 11:47:28 AM
A bit of a Roman Abramovich scenario going on here, lots of double standard posters.

Its not pleasant having your laundry aired in public is it... especially for everyones favourite county, the arent we great brigade.

It would take incredible incompetence on the part of Dublin,not to win the All Ireland every year, given the advantages that they currently enjoy.


Are you mad or did you not read what you typed? Did you see the All Ireland final(s)? Did you see the recent finals where they just about scraped past Mayo, once after a replay, after epic games?

Ridiculous statements like this do nothing for anyone.

Yes, you are of course correct, they only scraped a win in 14 of the last 15 Leinster Finals and only scraped wins in 7 of the last 9 All Ireland's .
They only beat Kerry by 6 points this year. A pity that they couldn't get a man sent off in the first half and the result might have been a bit closer.
Your right, I'm probably mad.


Don't talk crap about Leinster titles when you said - It would take incredible incompetence on the part of Dublin,not to win the All Ireland every year, given the advantages that they currently enjoy.


That statement implies that even if they're a little incompetent they'll win the All Ireland every year. Absolute bullshit and up there with the biggest bullshit I've ever read on here and that's a high bar.
f you read what I said, I did  not imply ‘ a little incompetence ‘ I stated plainly  ‘ incredible incompetence ‘.
It would take an almost unfathomable degree of managerial incompetence to fail to win with this team.
That is my opinion , you are of course correct , nobody should have the temerity to express an opinion the is different to yours , which you have so  eloquently expressed. ( not ) .


I've no issue with someone holding a different opinion than myself. In fact it's your reaction that suggests you have the problem in that regard. To me, the above statement is so wrong it's difficult to believe. Dublin have been managed brilliantly by Jim Gavin and his team. Prepared probably as perfectly as any team could be. Devised a tactical approach after getting caught out by ultra defensive tactics which has effectively ended those tactics. Yet they easily could have lost the finals in 2011, 2013, 2016, 2017 and 2019 - opponents missing chances or getting players sent off possibly saving Dublin on those occasions (maybe not 2011 but Kerry were 4 up with 10 minutes left in that one). Perhaps they should have lost a couple of those. Surely Jim Gavin and co have added something??? Or maybe they've bordered on "an almost unfathomable degree of managerial incompetence" as they're almost failed to win with this team a few times.

But they won them. That's all that matters. The 'epic losses' won't be written in the roll of honour. And the Mayo choke brigade have a field day too.


Are you deliberately missing the point or do you also think "It would take incredible incompetence on the part of Dublin,not to win the All Ireland every year..." ?

It's quite an achievement to to turn Mayo issues into yet another thread bashing dublin and/or their achievements. Why does it always have to be somehow making it all about dublin or their fault
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: rosnarun on October 04, 2019, 12:42:56 PM
Fair play to Supermacs for asking the Galway CB for a breakdown of how their sponsorship was spent in the last few years. It's not at all surprising given the shambolic(I'd use another term but have to be careful) behaviour of the county board.

Pricey and a few others are so obsessed with GAA funding/spending they should go investigate that. Without going into specifics it sounds alot more disgraceful than anything about Dublin. That should be the real target for their anger/bitterness instead of crying over dublin actually doing the right things
this is more of it .
what Did super macs get for their money
exactly what they paid for , Huge exposure to sell their Dry burgers, pineapple Topped pizza's and Taco fries to drunks at 2 in the morning
Did they expect the Galway county board to OK decisions with  them ?
How come SuperMaC'S get such an easy ride sponsoring sport any way  when ever McDonald do it there is always an uproar about Obesity, Its like people think Fried chicken is Fat free it its made by an Irish company .
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on October 04, 2019, 12:45:54 PM
Fair play to Supermacs for asking the Galway CB for a breakdown of how their sponsorship was spent in the last few years. It's not at all surprising given the shambolic(I'd use another term but have to be careful) behaviour of the county board.

Pricey and a few others are so obsessed with GAA funding/spending they should go investigate that. Without going into specifics it sounds alot more disgraceful than anything about Dublin. That should be the real target for their anger/bitterness instead of crying over dublin actually doing the right things
this is more of it .
what Did super macs get for their money
exactly what they paid for , Huge exposure to sell their Dry burgers, pineapple Topped pizza's and Taco fries to drunks at 2 in the morning
Did they expect the Galway county board to OK decisions with  them ?
How come SuperMaC'S get such an easy ride sponsoring sport any way  when ever McDonald do it there is always an uproar about Obesity, Its like people think Fried chicken is Fat free it its made by an Irish company .

You are being very naive if you think sponsors hand over cash and thats that.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: heffo on October 04, 2019, 01:16:13 PM
Was Timmy really on the Mayo team bus??
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: ballinaman on October 04, 2019, 02:07:03 PM
Was Timmy really on the Mayo team bus??
No
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: rosnarun on October 04, 2019, 03:06:34 PM
Fair play to Supermacs for asking the Galway CB for a breakdown of how their sponsorship was spent in the last few years. It's not at all surprising given the shambolic(I'd use another term but have to be careful) behaviour of the county board.

Pricey and a few others are so obsessed with GAA funding/spending they should go investigate that. Without going into specifics it sounds alot more disgraceful than anything about Dublin. That should be the real target for their anger/bitterness instead of crying over dublin actually doing the right things
this is more of it .
what Did super macs get for their money
exactly what they paid for , Huge exposure to sell their Dry burgers, pineapple Topped pizza's and Taco fries to drunks at 2 in the morning
Did they expect the Galway county board to OK decisions with  them ?
How come SuperMaC'S get such an easy ride sponsoring sport any way  when ever McDonald do it there is always an uproar about Obesity, Its like people think Fried chicken is Fat free it its made by an Irish company .

You are being very naive if you think sponsors hand over cash and thats that.
they of course have the right to decide where their branding is used but nayone who takes advise on how to run GAA club/county from their sponsors ither it be the local chipper or major insurance group is looking for trouble
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: rosnarun on October 04, 2019, 03:27:43 PM
deom the maY
Mayo being badly run turns into an anti Dub thread
https://www.supermacs.ie/supermacs-statement-re-galway-gaa-finances/

Fair play to Galway and the FAI taking the heat off our administration problems.

WITHOUT taking from my original point but it's had to have much Time for these boys
from the mayo news

However, Mike Connelly denied this claim when he spoke to The Mayo News after last week’s meeting. “Absolutely not, absolutely not” he said, adding that the €5,000 referred to covered the cost of souvenir ‘half and half’ GAA jerseys for the New York trip that Mr O’Leary had received, as well as the All-Ireland tickets.


how dare anyone suggest they overcharged for tickets wasn't there Half emerald , half ruby jersey (I presume as it seems to have cost €4,050) thrown in too
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: dublin7 on October 04, 2019, 05:04:24 PM
deom the maY
Mayo being badly run turns into an anti Dub thread
https://www.supermacs.ie/supermacs-statement-re-galway-gaa-finances/

Fair play to Galway and the FAI taking the heat off our administration problems.

WITHOUT taking from my original point but it's had to have much Time for these boys
from the mayo news

However, Mike Connelly denied this claim when he spoke to The Mayo News after last week’s meeting. “Absolutely not, absolutely not” he said, adding that the €5,000 referred to covered the cost of souvenir ‘half and half’ GAA jerseys for the New York trip that Mr O’Leary had received, as well as the All-Ireland tickets.


how dare anyone suggest they overcharged for tickets wasn't there Half emerald , half ruby jersey (I presume as it seems to have cost €4,050) thrown in too
Has anyone got a pic of those jersies? For that price they must have actual emeralds and rubies on them. No wonder the Mayo CB are so upset. I'm glad that clears up where the €5k went🤑🤑
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on October 04, 2019, 05:56:24 PM
Fair play to Supermacs for asking the Galway CB for a breakdown of how their sponsorship was spent in the last few years. It's not at all surprising given the shambolic(I'd use another term but have to be careful) behaviour of the county board.

Pricey and a few others are so obsessed with GAA funding/spending they should go investigate that. Without going into specifics it sounds alot more disgraceful than anything about Dublin. That should be the real target for their anger/bitterness instead of crying over dublin actually doing the right things
this is more of it .
what Did super macs get for their money
exactly what they paid for , Huge exposure to sell their Dry burgers, pineapple Topped pizza's and Taco fries to drunks at 2 in the morning
Did they expect the Galway county board to OK decisions with  them ?
How come SuperMaC'S get such an easy ride sponsoring sport any way  when ever McDonald do it there is always an uproar about Obesity, Its like people think Fried chicken is Fat free it its made by an Irish company .

You are being very naive if you think sponsors hand over cash and thats that.
they of course have the right to decide where their branding is used but nayone who takes advise on how to run GAA club/county from their sponsors ither it be the local chipper or major insurance group is looking for trouble

I think the best sponsrhip deals have more of a partnership than just handing over money for a logo on shirts, but a sponsor gets a say, like it or not.

Now if they hadn't done their homework on the backroom quality of the team in question it gets messy, and I think it shouldn't be being played out in the papers, but if you think amateur hour boards can't learn from successful business men or multinational behemoths you are on the windup.

Local example. Galway United were sponsored by a local property group. Started out as cash for logo. A few years later they are actively involved in the club and building them a training ground. Use the sponsors strengths and contacts. If a second tier LoI club can get 6 figures a year and a facility for free, what could the county board do if arsed?

Not thinking of any examples in particular, but if there is potential fraud going on, I think a sponsor is entitled to know if their loot is going somewhere illegal.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on October 04, 2019, 05:59:21 PM
deom the maY
Mayo being badly run turns into an anti Dub thread
https://www.supermacs.ie/supermacs-statement-re-galway-gaa-finances/

Fair play to Galway and the FAI taking the heat off our administration problems.

WITHOUT taking from my original point but it's had to have much Time for these boys
from the mayo news

However, Mike Connelly denied this claim when he spoke to The Mayo News after last week’s meeting. “Absolutely not, absolutely not” he said, adding that the €5,000 referred to covered the cost of souvenir ‘half and half’ GAA jerseys for the New York trip that Mr O’Leary had received, as well as the All-Ireland tickets.


how dare anyone suggest they overcharged for tickets wasn't there Half emerald , half ruby jersey (I presume as it seems to have cost €4,050) thrown in too

Its not about having time for them or not.  I have no idea what he is or isn't. But he has raised huge cash for them and I get a strong feeling the County Board are taking the piss out of him now.

They tspped him for cash for bricks and morter, didn't bother with the actual development but still expect the cash. He us right to tell them to do one.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Lar Naparka on October 04, 2019, 06:55:26 PM
Mayo being badly run turns into an anti Dub thread
:D :D :D
It's pure gas alright, isn't it?
Keep 'er lit, boys!
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Lar Naparka on October 04, 2019, 07:08:07 PM
Fair play to Supermacs for asking the Galway CB for a breakdown of how their sponsorship was spent in the last few years. It's not at all surprising given the shambolic(I'd use another term but have to be careful) behaviour of the county board.

Pricey and a few others are so obsessed with GAA funding/spending they should go investigate that. Without going into specifics it sounds alot more disgraceful than anything about Dublin. That should be the real target for their anger/bitterness instead of crying over dublin actually doing the right things
this is more of it .
what Did super macs get for their money
exactly what they paid for , Huge exposure to sell their Dry burgers, pineapple Topped pizza's and Taco fries to drunks at 2 in the morning
Did they expect the Galway county board to OK decisions with  them ?
How come SuperMaC'S get such an easy ride sponsoring sport any way  when ever McDonald do it there is always an uproar about Obesity, Its like people think Fried chicken is Fat free it its made by an Irish company .

You are being very naive if you think sponsors hand over cash and thats that.
they of course have the right to decide where their branding is used but nayone who takes advise on how to run GAA club/county from their sponsors ither it be the local chipper or major insurance group is looking for trouble

I think the best sponsrhip deals have more of a partnership than just handing over money for a logo on shirts, but a sponsor gets a say, like it or not.

Now if they hadn't done their homework on the backroom quality of the team in question it gets messy, and I think it shouldn't be being played out in the papers, but if you think amateur hour boards can't learn from successful business men or multinational behemoths you are on the windup.

Local example. Galway United were sponsored by a local property group. Started out as cash for logo. A few years later they are actively involved in the club and building them a training ground. Use the sponsors strengths and contacts. If a second tier LoI club can get 6 figures a year and a facility for free, what could the county board do if arsed?

Not thinking of any examples in particular, but if there is potential fraud going on, I think a sponsor is entitled to know if their loot is going somewhere illegal.
Dunno what the fuss is about, to be honest. It's a governance issue, pure and simple. For the cerebrally challenged, O'Leary can't go around asking the public to donate money for any cause unless the prospective donors are aware of where the money is going and for what reasons it is being collected. If the revenue boys come knocking, Timmy will have to produce invoices, receipts etc.
If it was made clear to the donors that the money was going to be spent on building a centre of excellence or whatever, then he is legally obliged to ensure the money is going where it's meant to go. I don't think it was ever meant to be a handover to the Mayo county board with no strings attached and that it seems was made clear to all before money started changing hands.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: dublin7 on October 04, 2019, 10:20:46 PM
Doesnt seem very clear to the Mayo CB though. It seems providing basic information such as plans or architectural drawings is beyond them, never mind receipts, copies of invoices etc

People having a go at the sponsor and not the CB really need wake up
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: MayoBuck on October 05, 2019, 01:28:01 AM
Dublin posters seem obsessed with this topic for some reason. Almost like they're trying to deflect attention from something else...
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: dublin7 on October 05, 2019, 03:56:35 PM
Dublin posters seem obsessed with this topic for some reason. Almost like they're trying to deflect attention from something else...
That's it lad. Bring it back to the dubs again. Beem a few posts since they got blamed for anything
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: TheGreatest on October 07, 2019, 08:24:26 AM
Dublin posters seem obsessed with this topic for some reason. Almost like they're trying to deflect attention from something else...

Or the complete opposite of what you said.

There is a dublin thead with over 100 pages and full of Mayo posters, then when something with your own counties misfortunes its deflection and the blame game.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: heffo on October 07, 2019, 09:00:13 AM
Do we have a rough number of how many 'influential backers' like this guy are supporting Mayo?

When we socialise all the counties incomes will monies like this be included?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Halfquarter on October 07, 2019, 09:43:24 AM
Do we have a rough number of how many 'influential backers' like this guy are supporting Mayo?

When we socialise all the counties incomes will monies like this be included?

How does somebody ‘socialise ‘ income. ?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: stephenite on October 07, 2019, 09:48:48 AM
Do we have a rough number of how many 'influential backers' like this guy are supporting Mayo?

When we socialise all the counties incomes will monies like this be included?

How does somebody ‘socialise ‘ income. ?

Jaysus
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Lar Naparka on October 07, 2019, 11:21:26 PM
Do we have a rough number of how many 'influential backers' like this guy are supporting Mayo?

When we socialise all the counties incomes will monies like this be included?
I take it you are having a laugh... ;D
Do you seriously think Dublin will divulge the names of all its sponsors, sorry, partners never mind how much each "partnership"is worth?
And as for sharing all of its unearned income with all the jealous culchies, you'll see flying pigs first.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: rosnarun on October 08, 2019, 04:39:41 PM
http://www.mayonews.ie/living/34403-mayo-football-the-hypomanic-obsession

Don't be always worrying about money
Gas article from mayo news this week
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: moysider on October 08, 2019, 09:57:46 PM
http://www.mayonews.ie/living/34403-mayo-football-the-hypomanic-obsession

Don't be always worrying about money
Gas article from mayo news this week

Did I read the same article?
Gas article?!
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Rossfan on October 14, 2019, 05:09:30 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/roscommon-gaa-appoints-aidan-brady-as-first-commercial-director-956994.html

A voluntary position by the way.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Maroon Manc on October 15, 2019, 09:49:03 AM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/roscommon-gaa-appoints-aidan-brady-as-first-commercial-director-956994.html

A voluntary position by the way.

Whats the story here, a well off bloke or will take a % of whatever he earns?

How much revenue did Roscommon GAA generate in 2018?

Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Rossfan on October 15, 2019, 10:11:25 AM
€1.4 m on the win a house thing. However the likes of that is a one off and wont be coming again.
C. €200k Club Rossie membership.
These are my figures not official ones.
Add Sponsorship, gate receipts.

I presume Aidan is just getting expenses.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: TheGreatest on October 18, 2019, 02:27:21 PM
€1.4 m on the win a house thing. However the likes of that is a one off and wont be coming again.
C. €200k Club Rossie membership.
These are my figures not official ones.
Add Sponsorship, gate receipts.

I presume Aidan is just getting expenses.

And private backers?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: heffo on October 18, 2019, 06:48:44 PM
€1.4 m on the win a house thing. However the likes of that is a one off and wont be coming again.
C. €200k Club Rossie membership.
These are my figures not official ones.
Add Sponsorship, gate receipts.

I presume Aidan is just getting expenses.

And private backers?

Are they anything like the 'influential' private backers who got rid of Rochford?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on October 22, 2019, 06:57:59 PM
€1.4 m on the win a house thing. However the likes of that is a one off and wont be coming again.
C. €200k Club Rossie membership.
These are my figures not official ones.
Add Sponsorship, gate receipts.

I presume Aidan is just getting expenses.

And private backers?

Are they anything like the 'influential' private backers who got rid of Rochford?

Leave the Stonecutters out of this!
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: TheGreatest on October 23, 2019, 08:40:34 AM
Not very nice !

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/financier-called-a-donkey-in-mayo-gaa-county-board-email-1.4058274
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 23, 2019, 09:16:20 AM
Not very nice !

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/financier-called-a-donkey-in-mayo-gaa-county-board-email-1.4058274

It's pathetic but no surprise to us Mayo folk.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Rossfan on October 23, 2019, 11:22:52 AM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/croker-dismay-at-mayo-no-show-at-special-congress-959080.html
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Lar Naparka on October 23, 2019, 05:13:53 PM
Not very nice !

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/financier-called-a-donkey-in-mayo-gaa-county-board-email-1.4058274
I think it's fair to say that there are always two sides to any story and I imagine this one is no exception.
The CB hasn't responded to any of Tim O'Leary's allegation, never mind refuting any of them and this is to be expected.
But, somehow, reading between the lines, I am no surprised that a county official or two might think the man is a donkey. Stating this in a public email is another matter!
It seems Tim isn't the only donkey involved!
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: stephenite on October 26, 2019, 07:53:38 AM
Now we have former players in the media claiming the County Board aren’t paying their bills.

The incompetence of the current Board led by Gombeens needs action. Start with Connelly and ensure that family are kept outside for years to come
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Lar Naparka on October 26, 2019, 11:18:23 AM
Now we have former players in the media claiming the County Board aren’t paying their bills.

The incompetence of the current Board led by Gombeens needs action. Start with Connelly and ensure that family are kept outside for years to come
? ? ?
Hadn't heard of this before. Any details?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on October 26, 2019, 01:02:51 PM
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/mayo-gaa-failed-to-pay-restaurant-bills-totalling-18000-explayer-claims-38632372.html
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: munchkin on October 28, 2019, 11:31:52 AM
interesting that not one person could be found to drive to cork (noting that you dont even need a member of the board - anyone can be a delegate once they are authorised by the board)
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/croker-dismay-at-mayo-no-show-at-special-congress-959080.html
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: mayo.mick on October 28, 2019, 06:48:40 PM
Time to get the popcorn out........
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: TheGreatest on October 30, 2019, 08:46:33 AM
The gift that keeps on giving, they are not doing themselves any favours.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/millionaire-mayo-backer-receives-apology-from-county-board-over-donkey-song-choice-at-underdogs-game-38643648.html

Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: highorlow on October 30, 2019, 10:18:39 AM
The most interesting thing about this is trying to differentiate between the fake news and the facts.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: heffo on October 30, 2019, 10:23:02 AM
Whatever about non-payment of bills where there may have been confusion as to whether it was sponsored/discounted, not having a delegate at the special congress is pretty shameful.

The Mayo foundation aren't doing themselves any favours either.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 31, 2019, 03:53:59 AM
It's a pity they flatly refused any open questions on this subject at the Co board meeting last night. However they are having a meeting with club delegates 'behind closed doors' in the next month.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: joemamas on October 31, 2019, 12:01:39 PM
It's a pity they flatly refused any open questions on this subject at the Co board meeting last night. However they are having a meeting with club delegates 'behind closed doors' in the next month.

Any delegate who voted for these idiots should be embarrassed by their behavior.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Tubberman on October 31, 2019, 12:19:12 PM
It's a pity they flatly refused any open questions on this subject at the Co board meeting last night. However they are having a meeting with club delegates 'behind closed doors' in the next month.

Any delegate who voted for these idiots should be embarrassed by their behavior.


Were the alternatives of a much higher standard?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: joemamas on October 31, 2019, 01:53:40 PM
It's a pity they flatly refused any open questions on this subject at the Co board meeting last night. However they are having a meeting with club delegates 'behind closed doors' in the next month.

Any delegate who voted for these idiots should be embarrassed by their behavior.


Were the alternatives of a much higher standard?

A more accurate question may be "How many younger potentially bright and energetic officers are discouraged from running due to the continued BS that is constantly occurring at the County Board level."
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: larryin89 on November 01, 2019, 08:15:44 PM
It's a pity they flatly refused any open questions on this subject at the Co board meeting last night. However they are having a meeting with club delegates 'behind closed doors' in the next month.

Any delegate who voted for these idiots should be embarrassed by their behavior.


Were the alternatives of a much higher standard?

A more accurate question may be "How many younger potentially bright and energetic officers are discouraged from running due to the continued BS that is constantly occurring at the County Board level."

PRO Cunnnane doesn’t look like he is long out of minor
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: TheGreatest on November 05, 2019, 07:58:04 AM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2019/1031/1087833-mayo-reject-calls-for-croke-park-input-on-finance-row/?fbclid=IwAR2t3SxB3-bg4UhF_xlY799eid2kduf-J8zoZozhxhBg2nRBvfwPcoWGLXQ

They are afraid of what might be found.

Spa pampering days for some of the lads.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 05, 2019, 04:52:32 PM
Enough is enough for a number Mayo clubs

https://charlestowngaa.com/club-statement-05-11-2019/

https://mobile.twitter.com/LouisburghGAA/status/1191725541944107008

https://mobile.twitter.com/ballycgaa/status/1191752196649562112
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: mayo.mick on November 05, 2019, 06:06:24 PM
http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/34510-dispute-not-discussed-at-meeting

"
Quote
However, a statement released to The Mayo News after the meeting by County Board spokesperson, Paul Cunnane, said: “In relation to tonight's meeting to respond to clubs, we received legal correspondence from Tim O'Leary and Eugene Rooney, and based on those letters we have now been advised that we cannot now comment any further on these matters.”
The statement also said that: “There was a vote of confidence proposed in the Mayo GAA executive and board at tonight's meeting which was resoundingly passed by all delegates.”
The Mayo News understands that a vote was also taken among club delegates present on excluding media from all future meetings of the Mayo County Board.
No members of the media were allowed to attend tonight’s meeting."

https://charlestowngaa.com/club-statement-05-11-2019/

Quote
"Statement from Charlestown Sarsfields GAA:

Following a County Board meeting held last night the 4th of November 2019 in McHale Park, a statement released by the PRO stated that a motion of confidence in the Executive had been passed with the “overwhelming support” of the delegates. We have been contacted by a number of club members in relation to this issue. It is our understanding that a motion was proposed by an honorary county board officer who is not a club delegate and seconded by a delegate, but that no vote was held on this very important motion. Our club delegate did not vote on this proposal nor was he given the opportunity and we would ask the County Board Executive to clarify last nights statement. We also cannot condone the exclusion of the media from last nights meeting and the proposal to ban then from all future meetings. "







https://twitter.com/ballycgaa/status/1191752196649562112

https://twitter.com/ArdnareeSarsGaa/status/1191727931673985025




http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/34540-mayo-gaa-respond-to-claims-by-clubs

Quote
MAYO GAA chiefs have denied claims made by clubs today (Tuesday) that a statement released after last night’s County Board meeting in MacHale Park, Castlebar contained inaccuracies regarding a ‘motion of confidence’ in the County Board executive.
Charlestown Sarsfields GAA, Louisburgh GAA, Ballycastle GAA and Ardnaree Sarsfields GAA have all issued statements today (Tuesday) on social media in response to the Board’s claim that: ‘a vote of confidence proposed in the Mayo GAA executive and board at tonight's meeting was resoundingly passed by all delegates’.
All four clubs say that no vote took place on this ‘motion of confidence’ at last night’s meeting of club delegates.
“We have been contacted by a number of club members in relation to this issue,” read the Charlestown GAA statement.
“It is our understanding that a motion was proposed by an honorary county board officer who is not a club delegate and seconded by a delegate, but that no vote was held on this very important motion.
“Our club delegate did not vote on this proposal nor was he given the opportunity and we would ask the County Board Executive to clarify last night’s statement.”
However, in response to a number of questions put to County Board officials by The Mayo News this afternoon, Mayo GAA have issued a statement to clarify their position in relation to the ‘motion of confidence’ issue.
“After a lengthy discussion among delegates on how to move forward for the betterment of Mayo GAA, a number of speakers called for support for the Executive to deal with the matter,” reads the statement.
“A motion for a vote of confidence in the Executive was proposed and it was seconded by a number of individuals. There were no objections raised by any club delegate to this motion. As nobody present objected to the motion in any way the motion was taken as passed by all delegates without a vote been required.”
A proposal to ban members of the media from attending any future County Board meetings — with the exception of the County Convention — was also passed on Monday night after a show of hands by the club delegates.
Three of the clubs said they disagreed with this motion being passed in their social media statements — Louisburgh, Charlestown Sarsfields and Ardnaree Sarsfields.
However, today’s statement from Mayo GAA said this proposal was seconded and passed ‘overwhelmingly’ by club representatives.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Angelo on November 05, 2019, 06:26:55 PM
Mayo football is some craic.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on November 05, 2019, 06:48:52 PM
Why would you allow the media attend board meetings of any organisation?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: MayoBuck on November 05, 2019, 06:55:19 PM
Why would you allow the media attend board meetings of any organisation?

To avoid confusion around whether votes have actually taken place?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on November 05, 2019, 07:23:00 PM
Why would you allow the media attend board meetings of any organisation?

To avoid confusion around whether votes have actually taken place?

Thats what board members are for.

I look forward to reading all your internal business, financial affairs, discussions about managers and tactics in the local rag.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: dublin7 on November 05, 2019, 08:00:49 PM
How could anyone have any confidence in the Mayo Co. Board after reading all those club/county board statements??

Representatives from GAA HQ should be arranging a meeting with the board/chairman for tomorrow (telling not asking it's happening) to go in and review all the accounts for the last few years. Only way to put an end to this car crash from a Mayo perspective.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: MayoBuck on November 05, 2019, 08:08:56 PM
Why would you allow the media attend board meetings of any organisation?

To avoid confusion around whether votes have actually taken place?

Thats what board members are for.

I look forward to reading all your internal business, financial affairs, discussions about managers and tactics in the local rag.

What do you mean by board members? The executive are saying one thing here but club delegates are saying the opposite.

If it bothers you, maybe don't read local Mayo papers?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on November 05, 2019, 08:45:39 PM
Why would you allow the media attend board meetings of any organisation?

To avoid confusion around whether votes have actually taken place?

Thats what board members are for.

I look forward to reading all your internal business, financial affairs, discussions about managers and tactics in the local rag.

What do you mean by board members? The executive are saying one thing here but club delegates are saying the opposite.

If it bothers you, maybe don't read local Mayo papers?
 

Parties dispute meeting minutes all the time. Its not ideal, but thats what secretarial services are for. Inviting the media into executive meetings is not the answer. Which is why nobody does it.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: rosnarun on November 08, 2019, 02:47:37 PM
the county board are playing a master stroke. they just keep delaying the issue until people lose interest and its working
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Blowitupref on November 08, 2019, 02:55:21 PM
the county board are playing a master stroke. they just keep delaying the issue until people lose interest and its working

Tongue in cheek comment!? Would be little interest with people if the Mayo County board didn't let things escalate and now drag out.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Tatler Jack on November 09, 2019, 07:08:51 AM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/the-inside-story-mayo-the-county-board-and-the-row-with-the-millionaire-38675616.html
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: seafoid on November 15, 2019, 01:35:35 PM
This sounds like Mayo

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/2019/11/13/raymond-poulidor-cyclist-known-eternal-second-stole-hearts-french/

Raymond Poulidor, who has died aged 83, was a cyclist who, had his career not coincided with those of Jacques Anquetil and Eddie Merckx, would surely have won a clutch of Tours de France; as it was, “the Eternal Second” became even better loved than his two rivals.
His duels with Anquetil particularly caught the imagination of the French people. Anquetil, with his air of aloof superiority, was the supreme tactician, a master of the time trial who always seemed to ride within himself and suffer less than other riders (that was an illusion, he insisted).
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: heffo on November 15, 2019, 02:02:10 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/the-inside-story-mayo-the-county-board-and-the-row-with-the-millionaire-38675616.html

It's not so long ago that John Bailey arrived in Parnell Pk to take the Dublin Hurling panel out for the session.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on November 19, 2019, 01:28:51 PM
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mayo-gaa-threatened-with-high-court-injunction-as-governance-row-takes-fresh-twist-38705954.html

More craic.

That said, if the geezer isn't a paid up member, he isn't a paid up member...
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 19, 2019, 10:03:44 PM
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mayo-gaa-threatened-with-high-court-injunction-as-governance-row-takes-fresh-twist-38705954.html

More craic.

That said, if the geezer isn't a paid up member, he isn't a paid up member...

The 'geezer' is a well known and respected journalist here in Mayo. If he didn't pay by March 31st then he hasn't a leg to stand on I know, but you'd think the procedure would be explained by whoever to him.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: dublin7 on November 19, 2019, 10:10:03 PM
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mayo-gaa-threatened-with-high-court-injunction-as-governance-row-takes-fresh-twist-38705954.html

More craic.

That said, if the geezer isn't a paid up member, he isn't a paid up member...

The 'geezer' is a well known and respected journalist here in Mayo. If he didn't pay by March 31st then he hasn't a leg to stand on I know, but you'd think the procedure would be explained by whoever to him.

He seems well aware of the procedure, but based on his comments I wonder how many of the current board were fully compliant when they got elected.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Lar Naparka on November 19, 2019, 10:16:07 PM
On the face of it, it seems pretty straightforward; either Gallagher was a paid up member on March 31st or he wasn't. But if that is the only issue, it's hard to see how a respected journalist would be prepared to fork out a wad of dosh to fight a case he has no hope of winning.
Right now, we have only heard one side of the story but I don't think we have got the full story-not yet at any rate.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: heffo on November 20, 2019, 09:13:05 AM
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mayo-gaa-threatened-with-high-court-injunction-as-governance-row-takes-fresh-twist-38705954.html

More craic.

That said, if the geezer isn't a paid up member, he isn't a paid up member...

The 'geezer' is a well known and respected journalist here in Mayo. If he didn't pay by March 31st then he hasn't a leg to stand on I know, but you'd think the procedure would be explained by whoever to him.

AFAIR, Croke Park issued directives to all County boards and then to clubs that this rule would/should be strictly enforced, two years ago.

If the Mayo county board have consistently applied it since then they're airtight, if they've been selective in how they apply it and he has evidence of same, presumably their ruling would be overturned at the 2nd stage (provincial appeal) and he'd be let run.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: rosnarun on November 21, 2019, 04:19:50 PM
On the face of it, it seems pretty straightforward; either Gallagher was a paid up member on March 31st or he wasn't. But if that is the only issue, it's hard to see how a respected journalist would be prepared to fork out a wad of dosh to fight a case he has no hope of winning.
Right now, we have only heard one side of the story but I don't think we have got the full story-not yet at any rate.
It may not be that simple ,
if the rule was not always implemented and is being used now solely to stop him running the court could well side with him.
Maybe the club did not send  in its remittances and member list in time which would make it an arguable case as to was he registered or not , though I believe  he no longer reside in the club area any more so it could well have lapsed but does that mean your no longer a member esp if you have a club role a court could rule your a defacto member
 back in the day membership numbers used to be pathetic ( at least until mayo started qualifiying for all Irelands)
or for conspiracy  fans
 he could be being used as a stalking horse(by ????)  to get the whole thing into a courtroom where questions would have to be answered

its also an example of where the Ladies game differs from
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: five points on November 21, 2019, 05:03:35 PM
he could be being used as a stalking horse(by ????)  to get the whole thing into a courtroom where questions would have to be answered


No judge, except maybe in a movie, would allow their court to be used to air or advance a private dispute.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Halfquarter on November 22, 2019, 06:52:55 PM

Former Mayo Footballer J P Kean has his say -

https://www.mayonews.ie/sports/34601-kean-slams-mayo-gaa-decision-to-bin-strategic-plan
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 23, 2019, 09:48:51 AM

Former Mayo Footballer J P Kean has his say -

https://www.mayonews.ie/sports/34601-kean-slams-mayo-gaa-decision-to-bin-strategic-plan

He has a point about ex-players. David Brady for example, spouting a fair bit of rubbish hasn't mentioned this. Conor Mortimer not a peep. Billie Joe Padden, nada. John Maughan also. All media men but haven't put their heads above the parapet about this. Fair play to McStay, although those bridges are well and truly burned now I'd say after the debacle in 2015, so he doesn't have to give a shite.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Tubberman on November 23, 2019, 09:57:49 AM

Former Mayo Footballer J P Kean has his say -

https://www.mayonews.ie/sports/34601-kean-slams-mayo-gaa-decision-to-bin-strategic-plan

He has a point about ex-players. David Brady for example, spouting a fair bit of rubbish hasn't mentioned this. Conor Mortimer not a peep. Billie Joe Padden, nada. John Maughan also. All media men but haven't put their heads above the parapet about this. Fair play to McStay, although those bridges are well and truly burned now I'd say after the debacle in 2015, so he doesn't have to give a shite.

Maybe some don't know enough or care enough about county board politics. 
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: dublin7 on November 24, 2019, 06:33:50 PM

Former Mayo Footballer J P Kean has his say -

https://www.mayonews.ie/sports/34601-kean-slams-mayo-gaa-decision-to-bin-strategic-plan

He has a point about ex-players. David Brady for example, spouting a fair bit of rubbish hasn't mentioned this. Conor Mortimer not a peep. Billie Joe Padden, nada. John Maughan also. All media men but haven't put their heads above the parapet about this. Fair play to McStay, although those bridges are well and truly burned now I'd say after the debacle in 2015, so he doesn't have to give a shite.

Maybe some don't know enough or care enough about county board politics.
Mayo GAA has been embarrased in the last few months with all the stories that have appeared in the media. That a Mayo board member can suggest a meeting that the foundation should be told to keep their €250k and not a word of comment from mayo  people in the media is bizarre. One of the reasons this story has dragged on is it seems very few in the county are interested in calling out the county board for this shambles
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: highorlow on November 25, 2019, 12:14:59 PM
Quote
Mayo GAA has been embarrased in the last few months with all the stories that have appeared in the media. That a Mayo board member can suggest a meeting that the foundation should be told to keep their €250k and not a word of comment from mayo  people in the media is bizarre. One of the reasons this story has dragged on is it seems very few in the county are interested in calling out the county board for this shambles

Does anyone know, in Mayo, the media or otherwise what it is this O'Leary bucko wants?

It appears to me he started off firing money at us *unconditionally and then at some stage, seemingly after plenty of selfies with the high profile players, the money raised, allegedly, had conditions attached.

*unconditionally - my reading of it is that the first tranche was on the basis of how far we got in the campaign in 2018 and was to be spent on the team to get that extra 1 to 3% out of them...

You can see how there is confusion and anger over this carry on and a reluctance to comment by ex Mayo players when the full story isn't presented.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: rosnarun on November 25, 2019, 12:24:16 PM
he could be being used as a stalking horse(by ????)  to get the whole thing into a courtroom where questions would have to be answered


No judge, except maybe in a movie, would allow their court to be used to air or advance a private dispute.
it was only one of a nuumebr of suggestions but that will happen if this goes to court . a lot of birty linen will be washed in Public, the county board have been hiding behind the coat tails of the Law and legal process  but it could well come back to bite them in the arse .
there a reason family law cases are held in camera
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: five points on November 25, 2019, 01:06:38 PM
he could be being used as a stalking horse(by ????)  to get the whole thing into a courtroom where questions would have to be answered


No judge, except maybe in a movie, would allow their court to be used to air or advance a private dispute.
it was only one of a nuumebr of suggestions but that will happen if this goes to court . a lot of birty linen will be washed in Public, the county board have been hiding behind the coat tails of the Law and legal process  but it could well come back to bite them in the arse .
there a reason family law cases are held in camera

Hardly. If he can prove he's a GAA member, any action he takes against the Association would be referred back by a court to the GAA's internal processes up to and including the DRA. If he can't, the GAA can reasonably tell the court that they're not accountable to him. 

If court actions were in any way effective in forcing organisations to wash their dirty linen in public, the FAI would be swamped with them.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: whitey on November 25, 2019, 01:11:39 PM
Quote
Mayo GAA has been embarrased in the last few months with all the stories that have appeared in the media. That a Mayo board member can suggest a meeting that the foundation should be told to keep their €250k and not a word of comment from mayo  people in the media is bizarre. One of the reasons this story has dragged on is it seems very few in the county are interested in calling out the county board for this shambles

Does anyone know, in Mayo, the media or otherwise what it is this O'Leary bucko wants?

It appears to me he started off firing money at us *unconditionally and then at some stage, seemingly after plenty of selfies with the high profile players, the money raised, allegedly, had conditions attached.

*unconditionally - my reading of it is that the first tranche was on the basis of how far we got in the campaign in 2018 and was to be spent on the team to get that extra 1 to 3% out of them...

You can see how there is confusion and anger over this carry on and a reluctance to comment by ex Mayo players when the full story isn't presented.

My best guess is that given the line of work he’s involved in, he has a lot of boxes to check from a legal and tax standpoint to make these donations. One would assume that the processes and transparency required from the county board to facilitate the donations are already in place.....obviously they’re not

(I’m sure Dublin has everything in order, otherwise AIG wouldn’t be able to give them a penny)
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Lar Naparka on November 25, 2019, 01:41:08 PM
he could be being used as a stalking horse(by ????)  to get the whole thing into a courtroom where questions would have to be answered


No judge, except maybe in a movie, would allow their court to be used to air or advance a private dispute.
it was only one of a nuumebr of suggestions but that will happen if this goes to court . a lot of birty linen will be washed in Public, the county board have been hiding behind the coat tails of the Law and legal process  but it could well come back to bite them in the arse .
there a reason family law cases are held in camera

Hardly. If he can prove he's a GAA member, any action he takes against the Association would be referred back by a court to the GAA's internal processes up to and including the DRA. If he can't, the GAA can reasonably tell the court that they're not accountable to him. 

If court actions were in any way effective in forcing organisations to wash their dirty linen in public, the FAI would be swamped with them.
Yeah, I have had a degree of experience of dealing with internal trade union legal disputes and I can see no difference here. ( I feel the GAA qualifies as a Friendly Society and is bound by the same legislation.)
SO, if a case comes to court, the judge will seek to establish that all possible ways of handling the dispute, using the body's own arbitration procedures have been exhausted before he will consent to hear the case.
I believe that if Gallagher does go to the High Court, he will need to be able to prove he tried every possible means of resolving his issue using GAA procedures if he is to have a chance of succeeding.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: rosnarun on November 26, 2019, 12:08:43 PM
I think when he counts te pennies he may well decide against it unless he has backing ,
if hes serious about helping mayo Gaa there is always next year  when officers will still be required and I think the remaining officers time is up anyway
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: topofthesoil on November 26, 2019, 04:47:18 PM
Classic case of corporate greed
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Lar Naparka on November 27, 2019, 06:06:48 PM

GAA to meet with millionaire Mayo backer directly over funding row (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaa-to-meet-with-millionaire-mayo-backer-directly-over-funding-row-38730376.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=IN:Daily&hConversionEventId=AQEAAZQF2gAmdjQwMDAwMDE2ZS1hYjkwLTljYWEtOGFhMS1jMjE2M2VjNmE0YTbaACRkOTU3ZDczNy1hODNhLTQxNTUtMDAwMC0wMjFlZjNhMGJjZGPaACQ3NmUyNDEyZS05YTlhLTQzYWQtYTI3NS1kNTc5NjdjMzk4NGY0Ocg_iPgBrYxqs95c341LSuSWIIYuUETo8Zq2JtTn4w)

Donnchadh Boyle and Shane Phelan

November 27 2019 2:30 AM

 
GAA director-general Tom Ryan is set to intervene directly in the ongoing row that has engulfed Mayo GAA and meet with the county's millionaire backer Tim O'Leary.

Top brass in Croke Park have already met with the Mayo executive and were briefed on the dispute which has rumbled on for months.

The Mayo GAA International Supporters Foundation, which is headed by O'Leary, is withholding €250,000 in funding in a row over governance.

In a letter to Mayo county secretary Dermot Butler, Ryan offered "whatever support and assistance may be required to reach a positive outcome for all concerned".

Ryan also asked Mayo to set up a meeting with O'Leary and asked that Mayo refrain from "making any further public statements".

"Thank you for meeting with me and my colleagues on Friday last," read the letter from Ryan which was dated for last Monday, November 25.

"We appreciate the difficult situation that the County Committee is currently faced with and we will offer whatever support and assistance may be required to reach a positive outcome for all concerned.

"We would be glad to meet with Mr O'Leary in this regard and I would be grateful if you could assist in making the arrangements for such a meeting.
"In the meantime, out of respect to all parties, and in order to better facilitate a resolution, can I ask that you refrain from making any further public statements on the matter?"

The foundation raised the money at an event in New York that coincided with Mayo’s trip to the Big Apple to face the Exiles in the Connacht SFC last May.

It is understood the meeting between O’Leary and the GAA’s top brass could take place early next week.

Meanwhile, a dispute over the exclusion of a journalist from running for a position on Mayo County Board has been resolved.

Michael Gallagher had threatened to issue High Court injunction proceedings after being told nine days ago that due to a technicality he could not run for the position of PRO at the county convention on December 15.

Following consultation with his club, Ballycroy GAA, the board has now accepted he was fully paid up on time.

Gallagher is not linked to the Mayo GAA International Supporters Foundation, but has been calling for the board to enter mediation with it.

In a statement, he said he appreciated Mayo GAA’s response to the situation and thanked his club, saying it “went to great lengths to bring about a fair outcome to this saga”.

Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Dubhaltach on December 02, 2019, 09:35:40 PM
The latest in the saga:
https://www.offtheball.com/sport/mayo-gaa-receive-e1-million-funding-pending-agreement-terms-932039

While the county board should be making every effort to secure the funding in question, these latest demands from the foundation are a step too far IMO.

There should be scope for agreement on most of the conditions however I see there being a major issue with point number 4 which states:

'The bid process for all sponsorship deals to be managed by a Committee with its members to be agreed in advance with the Foundation and to include independent oversight by a representative from the Foundation'.

The idea of an independent body, not elected by the clubs, having oversight on funding that it provides itself is one thing. Having oversight on 'all sponsorship deals' is a very different matter and runs totally contrary to the democratic ethos of the GAA.

Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on December 03, 2019, 10:17:08 AM
The latest in the saga:
https://www.offtheball.com/sport/mayo-gaa-receive-e1-million-funding-pending-agreement-terms-932039

While the county board should be making every effort to secure the funding in question, these latest demands from the foundation are a step too far IMO.

There should be scope for agreement on most of the conditions however I see there being a major issue with point number 4 which states:

'The bid process for all sponsorship deals to be managed by a Committee with its members to be agreed in advance with the Foundation and to include independent oversight by a representative from the Foundation'.

The idea of an independent body, not elected by the clubs, having oversight on funding that it provides itself is one thing. Having oversight on 'all sponsorship deals' is a very different matter and runs totally contrary to the democratic ethos of the GAA.
So the current sponsorship deals are democratically chosen? Voted on by clubs?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Dubhaltach on December 03, 2019, 06:55:17 PM
The latest in the saga:
https://www.offtheball.com/sport/mayo-gaa-receive-e1-million-funding-pending-agreement-terms-932039

While the county board should be making every effort to secure the funding in question, these latest demands from the foundation are a step too far IMO.

There should be scope for agreement on most of the conditions however I see there being a major issue with point number 4 which states:

'The bid process for all sponsorship deals to be managed by a Committee with its members to be agreed in advance with the Foundation and to include independent oversight by a representative from the Foundation'.

The idea of an independent body, not elected by the clubs, having oversight on funding that it provides itself is one thing. Having oversight on 'all sponsorship deals' is a very different matter and runs totally contrary to the democratic ethos of the GAA.
So the current sponsorship deals are democratically chosen? Voted on by clubs?

The current sponsorship deals are organised by the county committee which is voted in by the clubs, the same as in every other county.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on December 04, 2019, 12:42:33 PM
The latest in the saga:
https://www.offtheball.com/sport/mayo-gaa-receive-e1-million-funding-pending-agreement-terms-932039

While the county board should be making every effort to secure the funding in question, these latest demands from the foundation are a step too far IMO.

There should be scope for agreement on most of the conditions however I see there being a major issue with point number 4 which states:

'The bid process for all sponsorship deals to be managed by a Committee with its members to be agreed in advance with the Foundation and to include independent oversight by a representative from the Foundation'.

The idea of an independent body, not elected by the clubs, having oversight on funding that it provides itself is one thing. Having oversight on 'all sponsorship deals' is a very different matter and runs totally contrary to the democratic ethos of the GAA.
So the current sponsorship deals are democratically chosen? Voted on by clubs?

The current sponsorship deals are organised by the county committee which is voted in by the clubs, the same as in every other county.

Thats different to what you said though
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on December 04, 2019, 12:43:44 PM
Looks like a serious escalation

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-threatens-mayo-gaa-with-legal-action-if-it-wont-repay-his-150000-donation-38752369.html
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: weareros on December 04, 2019, 01:19:41 PM
Looks like a serious escalation

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-threatens-mayo-gaa-with-legal-action-if-it-wont-repay-his-150000-donation-38752369.html

And this lad is supposed to be a Mayo supporter, their "biggest supporter" even. He clearly is not.  They need to find a way to get shut of him.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on December 04, 2019, 02:01:41 PM
Looks like a serious escalation

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-threatens-mayo-gaa-with-legal-action-if-it-wont-repay-his-150000-donation-38752369.html

And this lad is supposed to be a Mayo supporter, their "biggest supporter" even. He clearly is not.  They need to find a way to get shut of him.

If he handed over money for x and y, and x and y don't happen, he is entitled to a refund. They have treated him appallingly so he is taking his ball home.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Tubberman on December 04, 2019, 02:11:08 PM
Looks like a serious escalation

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-threatens-mayo-gaa-with-legal-action-if-it-wont-repay-his-150000-donation-38752369.html

And this lad is supposed to be a Mayo supporter, their "biggest supporter" even. He clearly is not.  They need to find a way to get shut of him.

If he handed over money for x and y, and x and y don't happen, he is entitled to a refund. They have treated him appallingly so he is taking his ball home.

Well that's the nub of the issue. What were the terms of the donation? Did Mayo CB agree in advance that any donations from this 'Foundation' would be spent on specific projects, or that the foundation could dictate what the funds were spent on?
If they did, they've made a terrible decision because they've essentially given this guy a veto over how money raised in the name of Mayo GAA is spent, and b) they've left themselves open to this type of action calling for breakdowns and receipts and refunds etc etc

The T & Cs of how Mayo CB and the Foundation would interact and the roles and responsibilities of both parties don't seem to have been nailed down at the beginning and now it's a complete shit-show. O'Leary has some valid points, but he also seems to want to have a far bigger say than he's entitled to. Dangerous ground...
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: rosnarun on December 04, 2019, 02:16:51 PM
If he has a written agreement then sure give him his money back as soon as he hands over the money that was raised in the name of Mayo GAA in new York.
he tried to blackmail the county board with some very unreasonable demands which would have had the elected board Kow towing to him just because he has a few bob.
 while he has done a service in showing up the county board as being eejits he has as I predicted in previous posts decided to pick up his ball and go home like all spoiled brats ,
no doubt he be seen again trying to buy friends in connacht rugby or a broken LOI soccer team where he can be seen as the white Knight
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on December 04, 2019, 02:28:52 PM
If he has a written agreement then sure give him his money back as soon as he hands over the money that was raised in the name of Mayo GAA in new York.
he tried to blackmail the county board with some very unreasonable demands which would have had the elected board Kow towing to him just because he has a few bob.
 while he has done a service in showing up the county board as being eejits he has as I predicted in previous posts decided to pick up his ball and go home like all spoiled brats ,
no doubt he be seen again trying to buy friends in connacht rugby or a broken LOI soccer team where he can be seen as the white Knight
He is a rugby plant? Its very early to be drinking
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: rosnarun on December 04, 2019, 04:08:10 PM
If he has a written agreement then sure give him his money back as soon as he hands over the money that was raised in the name of Mayo GAA in new York.
he tried to blackmail the county board with some very unreasonable demands which would have had the elected board Kow towing to him just because he has a few bob.
 while he has done a service in showing up the county board as being eejits he has as I predicted in previous posts decided to pick up his ball and go home like all spoiled brats ,
no doubt he be seen again trying to buy friends in connacht rugby or a broken LOI soccer team where he can be seen as the white Knight
He is a rugby plant? Its very early to be drinking
Not the point
I suspect him of being a band wagon Jumper , A  few years back he was English soccer Number 1 fan, 
A bit if a full kit w**ker
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on December 04, 2019, 05:26:10 PM
If he has a written agreement then sure give him his money back as soon as he hands over the money that was raised in the name of Mayo GAA in new York.
he tried to blackmail the county board with some very unreasonable demands which would have had the elected board Kow towing to him just because he has a few bob.
 while he has done a service in showing up the county board as being eejits he has as I predicted in previous posts decided to pick up his ball and go home like all spoiled brats ,
no doubt he be seen again trying to buy friends in connacht rugby or a broken LOI soccer team where he can be seen as the white Knight
He is a rugby plant? Its very early to be drinking
Not the point
I suspect him of being a band wagon Jumper , A  few years back he was English soccer Number 1 fan, 
A bit if a full kit w**ker

If its not the point, why did you make it? You are claiming he donated megabucks to Mayo in order for them to dick him around so he could get in a row and ask for it back all because he is a deep cover LoI or rugby man. That is very silly.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on December 04, 2019, 05:30:59 PM
Looks like a serious escalation

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/millionaire-threatens-mayo-gaa-with-legal-action-if-it-wont-repay-his-150000-donation-38752369.html

And this lad is supposed to be a Mayo supporter, their "biggest supporter" even. He clearly is not.  They need to find a way to get shut of him.

If he handed over money for x and y, and x and y don't happen, he is entitled to a refund. They have treated him appallingly so he is taking his ball home.

Well that's the nub of the issue. What were the terms of the donation? Did Mayo CB agree in advance that any donations from this 'Foundation' would be spent on specific projects, or that the foundation could dictate what the funds were spent on?
If they did, they've made a terrible decision because they've essentially given this guy a veto over how money raised in the name of Mayo GAA is spent, and b) they've left themselves open to this type of action calling for breakdowns and receipts and refunds etc etc

The T & Cs of how Mayo CB and the Foundation would interact and the roles and responsibilities of both parties don't seem to have been nailed down at the beginning and now it's a complete shit-show. O'Leary has some valid points, but he also seems to want to have a far bigger say than he's entitled to. Dangerous ground...

I think the above is fair. He does seem to want more clout than you would expect in GAA circles, if it was a soccer club he would get a seat on the board. Maybe he doesn't get that GAA county boards are a different animal.l to what he is used to. But that said if you accept corporate donations you have to be able to stand over the spending.

There is definitely a cultural clash about money here.

Are they in a position to give it back?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Tubberman on December 04, 2019, 07:42:02 PM
If he has a written agreement then sure give him his money back as soon as he hands over the money that was raised in the name of Mayo GAA in new York.
he tried to blackmail the county board with some very unreasonable demands which would have had the elected board Kow towing to him just because he has a few bob.
 while he has done a service in showing up the county board as being eejits he has as I predicted in previous posts decided to pick up his ball and go home like all spoiled brats ,
no doubt he be seen again trying to buy friends in connacht rugby or a broken LOI soccer team where he can be seen as the white Knight
He is a rugby plant? Its very early to be drinking
Not the point
I suspect him of being a band wagon Jumper , A  few years back he was English soccer Number 1 fan, 
A bit if a full kit w**ker

If its not the point, why did you make it? You are claiming he donated megabucks to Mayo in order for them to dick him around so he could get in a row and ask for it back all because he is a deep cover LoI or rugby man. That is very silly.

No, he's saying O'Leary will get fed up with Mayo/GAA and look for a new project like rugby or a LOI club.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Rossfan on December 04, 2019, 09:22:01 PM
He might bail out Baile Brigin's favourite Sports body ( FAI)
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: dublin7 on December 05, 2019, 05:32:47 AM
He might bail out Baile Brigin's favourite Sports body ( FAI)

Given the evidence to date neither the Mayo board or FAI board could run a bath. If I was the Americans I'd discuss with the donors what other projects they could give the money to instead.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on December 05, 2019, 10:51:06 AM
He might bail out Baile Brigin's favourite Sports body ( FAI)
Eh?
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: oliverkelly on December 05, 2019, 01:50:20 PM
He might bail out Baile Brigin's favourite Sports body ( FAI)

Doubt it hes a big England Football fan

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/715922/i-did-my-bit-for-england/
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: weareros on December 05, 2019, 09:01:59 PM
He might bail out Baile Brigin's favourite Sports body ( FAI)

Doubt it hes a big England Football fan

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/715922/i-did-my-bit-for-england/

Ah, stop the lights. I though the only Willie in Mayo GAA was from Belmullet.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: rosnarun on December 06, 2019, 11:43:32 AM
He might bail out Baile Brigin's favourite Sports body ( FAI)

Doubt it hes a big England Football fan

https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/715922/i-did-my-bit-for-england/

Ah, stop the lights. I though the only Willie in Mayo GAA was from Belmullet.
there are other  bigger willies in the mayo media  , but don't worry you wont see them at matches just pontificating
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: mayo.mick on December 08, 2019, 12:13:39 PM

Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on December 08, 2019, 01:53:29 PM

Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Lar Naparka on December 08, 2019, 10:31:04 PM
It's a great pity that this row ever arose. I can't see things ever returning to normal now and relations between O'Leary and the county board are never going to get any better. Mayo football is going to be the big loser because fundraising on the corporate sector in New York is going to become a lot harder in future.
The sort of people able to afford to pay $10,000 dollars for a black tie fundraiser, especially those with Mayo affiliations, are not that easy to find. At best, they need to be approached by one of their own, someone in the same socioeconomic sector and for Mayo fundraising, that was Tim O'Leary.
I can't see him getting involved in any effort to fundraise for Mayo GAA again.
And unfortunately, I can't see any who got involved in the fundraiser that caused the present problem contributing again.
In a nutshell, if you lose O'Leary, you lose his associates also.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: From the Bunker on December 08, 2019, 10:43:11 PM
It's a great pity that this row ever arose. I can't see things ever returning to normal now and relations between O'Leary and the county board are never going to get any better. Mayo football is going to be the big loser because fundraising on the corporate sector in New York is going to become a lot harder in future.
The sort of people able to afford to pay $10,000 dollars for a black tie fundraiser, especially those with Mayo affiliations, are not that easy to find. At best, they need to be approached by one of their own, someone in the same socioeconomic sector and for Mayo fundraising, that was Tim O'Leary.
I can't see him getting involved in any effort to fundraise for Mayo GAA again.
And unfortunately, I can't see any who got involved in the fundraiser that caused the present problem contributing again.
In a nutshell, if you lose O'Leary, you lose his associates also.

Don't worry! Our Dublin Friends tell us that money has never kicked a ball over the bar! No need for it!
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Lar Naparka on December 08, 2019, 10:59:39 PM
It's a great pity that this row ever arose. I can't see things ever returning to normal now and relations between O'Leary and the county board are never going to get any better. Mayo football is going to be the big loser because fundraising on the corporate sector in New York is going to become a lot harder in future.
The sort of people able to afford to pay $10,000 dollars for a black tie fundraiser, especially those with Mayo affiliations, are not that easy to find. At best, they need to be approached by one of their own, someone in the same socioeconomic sector and for Mayo fundraising, that was Tim O'Leary.
I can't see him getting involved in any effort to fundraise for Mayo GAA again.
And unfortunately, I can't see any who got involved in the fundraiser that caused the present problem contributing again.
In a nutshell, if you lose O'Leary, you lose his associates also.

Don't worry! Our Dublin Friends tell us that money has never kicked a ball over the bar! No need for it!
Arrah, aren't you the bad-minded laitcheko?
Sure everyone knows it's the horsing about out in Fingallians club and having to make do with one tiny tea kettle that has toughened them up.
Title: Re: Mayo Millionaire backer withholds Money
Post by: Blowitupref on December 08, 2019, 11:51:59 PM
Is that the real Tim O'Leary on twitter tweeting about Mayo GAA buying curtains and fun sized bananas with his money/donation or is it a parody account?