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Title: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Fionntamhnach on September 12, 2019, 05:23:35 PM
While their public behaviour is pretty well known in these parts, I think it's only fair that if a dedicated thread is there for Sinn Fein, the SDLP & Fine Gael, then it's only fair that the DUP should have one for themselves too to keep all notes of their (mostly c*ntish) deeds in one place.

Anyhoo, Nelson McCausland has risen from the bottom of the septic tank to remind people again of how big of a **** he is.

Nelson McCausland: Northern Ireland will prosper once it’s rid of the EU... not by being tied to ‘economics of the leprechaun’
Talk of an ‘all-Ireland economy’ is just a Trojan horse for republicans’ goal of Irish unity, writes Nelson McCausland


https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/columnists/nelson-mccausland/nelson-mccausland-northern-ireland-will-prosper-once-its-rid-of-the-eu-not-by-being-tied-to-economics-of-the-leprechaun-38490365.html (https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/columnists/nelson-mccausland/nelson-mccausland-northern-ireland-will-prosper-once-its-rid-of-the-eu-not-by-being-tied-to-economics-of-the-leprechaun-38490365.html)
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: illdecide on September 12, 2019, 06:03:42 PM
This could hit record page numbers
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: RedHand88 on September 12, 2019, 06:08:32 PM
100 page thread by Christmas.

What does the Belfast bellylaugh hope to gain by publishing that?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: red hander on September 12, 2019, 06:57:17 PM
Nelson 'Red Sky' McCausland, failed politician and kilt-wearing all-round bigot. Tele is just a DUP propaganda sheet, but as no one buys the rag anymore (its circulation has plummeted), I wouldn't get too annoyed, it's in its death throes...
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: armaghniac on September 12, 2019, 07:05:56 PM
Won't this be a bit like the football All Ireland, McCausland will win every round?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Dougal Maguire on September 12, 2019, 07:25:24 PM
When he was sports minister he never let anyone use the titles Gaelic, Rugby and Soccer it was always Football, Rugby and Gaelic Sports
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Eamonnca1 on September 12, 2019, 09:35:35 PM
He's Jamie Bryson with A-levels.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: armaghniac on September 12, 2019, 10:48:18 PM
He's Jamie Bryson with A-levels.

The blx went to Oxford, the top university in the world!!
This shows the old adage about the man and the bog.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: trileacman on September 12, 2019, 11:08:00 PM
He's Jamie Bryson with A-levels.

The blx went to Oxford, the top university in the world!!
This shows the old adage about the man and the bog.

Remind me.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Rossfan on September 12, 2019, 11:56:58 PM
You can take the bigot out of the bigotry but you cant take the bigotry out of the bigot.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: trileacman on September 12, 2019, 11:58:47 PM
Ah.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Rossfan on September 13, 2019, 11:28:03 AM
A DUPUDA MLA called Clarke seems to be a right sleazeball and deserving of mention in this thread.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: imtommygunn on September 13, 2019, 11:38:13 AM
Pengelly too. Horrendous individual.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: johnnycool on September 13, 2019, 12:12:53 PM
Don't forget farmer Jim's snout is well in the trough;

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/dup-mp-shannon-to-be-investigated-again-over-parliamentary-expenses-38249974.html (https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/dup-mp-shannon-to-be-investigated-again-over-parliamentary-expenses-38249974.html)

Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Orior on September 13, 2019, 12:33:06 PM
Pengelly too. Horrendous individual.

But pleasant on the eye
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: weareros on September 13, 2019, 02:23:39 PM
Don't forget renowned world travel expert Ian óg Paisley labelling the cutting of Aer Lingus and Ryanair routes in Belfast as "Dublin dirty tricks".
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/northern-ireland/blow-for-belfast-as-ryanair-and-aer-lingus-cut-routes-38490545.html
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: imtommygunn on September 13, 2019, 02:36:21 PM
Pengelly too. Horrendous individual.

But pleasant on the eye

 ???

Yes Ian Og no doubt deserves a mention.

Foster, McCausland,Wells, Poots,Paisley in that order.

Campbell deserves a mention too.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on September 13, 2019, 02:43:37 PM
Don't forget renowned world travel expert Ian óg Paisley labelling the cutting of Aer Lingus and Ryanair routes in Belfast as "Dublin dirty tricks".
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/northern-ireland/blow-for-belfast-as-ryanair-and-aer-lingus-cut-routes-38490545.html

I've love to know what they expect, Dublin airport to roll over and not move forward. These f**kers think that everything is a god given right to them. What about the airports in the north actually standing up and being accountable for how sh1t they are and then doing something about it to compete. Utter laziness and incompetence - the airports as well :P

Not much word about Belfast International being voted the worst airport in the UK. They expect people here to put up with that sh1te. I'd rather travel a couple of hours down the road to what is a decent airport than go though the International esp if I am travelling with family.



Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: OgraAnDun on September 13, 2019, 02:57:30 PM
I actually thought this was the quote from Ian Og’s parody account that the Irish News quoted yesterday, can’t believe it’s the real deal...
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Seany on September 13, 2019, 03:54:05 PM
They are so bigoted.  So backward.

Believe the earth is 5000 years old (Mervyn Storey) 
Hate gay people (all of them, even the gay councillor herself)
Deny climate change (Sammy Wilson)
Mock the Irish language (Gregory Campbell)
Are openly racist (Get the ethnics out (Sammy Wilson)
Sex scandals (Iris, Other unnamed representatives)
Are prepared to bankrupt the north so they can get a slightly harder border (Dodds)
Are embroiled in some of the worst financial scandals and corruption  ever in the history of All Ireland , even the south (holidays, RHI, Planning, Red Sky, etc etc etc)  There are many many more

Sinn Fein are a typical, left leaning, liberal party.  And have managed to share government with these people for about fifteen years.  They could take no more.  It really grinds my gears when I hear people say 'The politicians should get back to work'.  How could you work with such backward, bigoted, hate filled, bitter, twisted people.

Religion and hate are a potent mix.  Al Kaida, ISIS, those headcases in the middle east.  And boy the DUP have it in spades.   
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: balladmaker on September 13, 2019, 03:55:56 PM
They are so bigoted.  So backward.

Believe the earth is 5000 years old (Mervyn Storey) 
Hate gay people (all of them, even the gay councillor herself)
Deny climate change (Sammy Wilson)
Mock the Irish language (Gregory Campbell)
Are openly racist (Get the ethnics out (Sammy Wilson)
Sex scandals (Iris, Other unnamed representatives)
Are prepared to bankrupt the north so they can get a slightly harder border (Dodds)
Are embroiled in some of the worst financial scandals and corruption  ever in the history of All Ireland , even the south (holidays, RHI, Planning, Red Sky, etc etc etc)  There are many many more

Sinn Fein are a typical, left leaning, liberal party.  And have managed to share government with these people for about fifteen years.  They could take no more.  It really grinds my gears when I hear people say 'The politicians should get back to work'.  How could you work with such backward, bigoted, hate filled, bitter, twisted people.

Religion and hate are a potent mix.  Al Kaida, ISIS, those headcases in the middle east.  And boy the DUP have it in spades.

+1 can't disagree with any of that.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: armaghniac on September 13, 2019, 05:53:36 PM
Believe the earth is 5000 years old (Mervyn Storey) 

I think you'll find they think the earth is 6023 years old, which is quite a bit more.

Quote
Hate gay people (all of them, even the gay councillor herself)

Not so. King Billy is very popular.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Orior on September 14, 2019, 05:16:48 AM
Fun fact: Rev Ian Paisley died 5 years ago.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Denn Forever on September 14, 2019, 10:43:33 AM
Beware.  For those who didn't experience Northern Ireland in the dangerous times, the DUP are sounding reasonable. Beware.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Walt Jabsco on September 14, 2019, 10:55:24 AM
Have they negotiated a new Boris Bonus? How much this time?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 14, 2019, 11:01:38 AM
Enough to pay Stitt & Bryson etc their inflated 'community worker' salaries?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Seany on September 14, 2019, 11:56:13 AM
Their legacy for this period of history will be to split Britain in two and unite Ireland as one
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: armaghniac on September 14, 2019, 12:26:29 PM
Their legacy for this period of history will be to split Britain in two and unite Ireland as one

Have you no hope for the Welsh?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Dougal Maguire on September 14, 2019, 01:19:27 PM
Poots is a particularly obnoxious cnut. Storey not the worst of them in fairness. Givan is another nasty piece of work.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: trailer on September 14, 2019, 04:46:58 PM
Pengelly too. Horrendous individual.

But pleasant on the eye

Really. I think she's a complete stoat.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Dougal Maguire on September 14, 2019, 04:49:45 PM
I have to agree with you
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: trileacman on September 14, 2019, 05:52:25 PM
Their legacy for this period of history will be to split Britain in two and unite Ireland as one

Have you no hope for the Welsh?

None. Lickspittle pricks.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Fionntamhnach on September 17, 2019, 04:17:52 PM
NUJ criticises DUP's Ian Paisley for Sam McBride post

Quote
The National Union of Journalists (NUJ) has criticised Ian Paisley after an online post about reporter Sam McBride.

The NUJ described it as an "unwarranted and unworthy" personal attack on a prominent political journalist.

The DUP MP for North Antrim wrote the Facebook post in response to an article by Mr McBride in the News Letter.

The article suggested the DUP had prioritised opposition to an Irish Language Act over resisting change to Northern Ireland's abortion law.

Mr Paisley said the "Christian ethos of the DUP is under attack from the press" and referred to what he described as Mr McBride's own Christian background and education.

The North Antrim MP argued that his party had "not been found wanting on the campaign to prevent the implementation of the most draconian abortion laws" .

It was typical of the press to "blame unionists for a decision that was not theirs", he said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-49729465
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: imtommygunn on September 17, 2019, 04:38:50 PM
He just does and says what he wants and never is held accountable by anyone.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 17, 2019, 05:14:29 PM
He does give you a good laugh though, with all this "Christian ethos" crap that he spouts.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: imtommygunn on September 17, 2019, 05:34:15 PM
Wright bus looks like it's going under which would be a blow to them.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Orior on September 17, 2019, 05:35:03 PM
Plus, Ian Og is always looking at an insect on the end of his nose which has just flown away.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 17, 2019, 05:52:48 PM
Wright bus looks like it's going under which would be a blow to them.

Everything in Ballymena eventually goes belly up. Wonderful MP & even better Council Chief Executive - a lethal combination, the pair of them.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Jim Bob on September 17, 2019, 06:56:38 PM
Pengelly too. Horrendous individual.

But pleasant on the eye

Really. I think she's a complete stoat.

 Has big sticky out ears
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: playwiththewind1st on September 17, 2019, 06:59:50 PM
And good Loyalist pedigree / upbringing.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: bogball88 on October 02, 2019, 10:40:40 AM
A DUP councillor and former mayor has been charged with sexual offences involving a child.

Thomas Hogg, 31, was arrested after a dance music festival in the grounds of the V36 park last Saturday.

It is owned by Antrim and Newtownabbey Borough Council.

He has been charged with sexual communication with a child and attempting to cause or incite a child between 13 and 16 years to engage in sexual activity.

Councillor Hogg, who is a former Mayor of Antrim and Newtownabbey Borough Council, is due to appear at Belfast Magistrates Court later this month.

A PSNI spokesperson said that the charges would be reviewed by the Public Prosecution Service.

A DUP spokesman said on Wednesday that the party had suspended the membership of Mr Hogg pending the outcome of a court case.

The spokesman added that the DUP had since received Mr Hogg's resignation from the party with immediate effect.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 15, 2019, 06:47:51 PM
Think the RHI sign has been dusted down from the enquiry. Wondering if the report is going to be unveiled sometime soon?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Fionntamhnach on October 19, 2019, 01:05:29 PM
It's supposedly "Super Saturday" at Westminster, and Jim Shannon has come out with this in the Commons...

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"Can the minister tell me how the Unionist people of NI, my children and grandchildren, will be secondary to a Unionist anywhere else across the UK...

...we have been treated as second class citizens and our opinion means nothing."


 
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 19, 2019, 01:13:49 PM
That must mean that us taigs are now demoted to third class citizens status.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: grounded on October 19, 2019, 02:23:28 PM
It's supposedly "Super Saturday" at Westminster, and Jim Shannon has come out with this in the Commons...

Quote
"Can the minister tell me how the Unionist people of NI, my children and grandchildren, will be secondary to a Unionist anywhere else across the UK...

...we have been treated as second class citizens and our opinion means nothing."




What an absolute tool he is.
          Ian Og had a clinker earlier as well when he quoted Carson "I was to be a puppet used in a game". Not realising that the unionist people have been played like puppets since the state was established.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: screenexile on October 21, 2019, 02:22:32 PM
So Stormont went well today then!!
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Rossfan on October 21, 2019, 02:50:33 PM
 ;D :D
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: square_ball on October 21, 2019, 03:36:55 PM
I’d say Robin Newton may find himself on the scrap heap alongside Jonathan Bell. 
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 21, 2019, 03:44:36 PM
He is already on the scrapheap & has been, for some time. He promised to go, after the Dee Stitt affair & today would have been the first chance for him to formally stand down. He will have to hang on , therefore, until they get a new Speaker in place (with cross community support, of course).
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: square_ball on October 21, 2019, 03:47:02 PM
I wasn’t aware of that. He was standing firm today from his mates in the DUP anyway.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: playwiththewind1st on October 21, 2019, 03:56:29 PM
The Speaker is supposed to be completely impartial. He takes his cue from the officers of the Assembly, who were sitting on both sides of him, to keep him straight.  He wasn't even allowed to sign the motion to recall the Assembly.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Fionntamhnach on November 07, 2019, 08:17:48 PM
Taken from this week's Popbitch newsletter...

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>> DU-Pee <<
Stalling tactics

There's been a lot of focus on the Tories, Labour and Lib Dems' relative popularity in the early days of this election – but what about the smaller parties? How are the DUP faring with the voter on the street at the moment?

Arlene Foster and Nigel Dodds went out for a late lunch at a fancy restaurant-bar in East Belfast the other week, bringing a sizable entourage of heavies with them. The guards quickly commandeered the restaurant's toilets, telling any diners who approached to either hold it in or use the toilets in the venue's bar instead.

That was until one brave diner squared up to them, insisting to be let past and threatening to soil themselves if they wouldn't move – getting someone to hover about with their camera phone primed.

Funnily enough, Foster and Dodds didn't hang around much longer after that. They left their desserts behind and were treated to a long slow-clap out of the venue.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: RedHand88 on November 07, 2019, 09:21:18 PM
 https://mobile.twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/status/1192042168803827714

Worthy of WTF thread status.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: imtommygunn on November 07, 2019, 09:42:35 PM
Who in their right mind would give that unscrupulous p***k money.

Him and farage a match made in heaven. Shows the standards that party have.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Fionntamhnach on December 15, 2019, 09:17:56 PM
Waking this thread up back from the dead...





Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: imtommygunn on December 15, 2019, 09:29:40 PM
I used to think they were just taking the piss out of people with this kind of stuff but I do sometimes wonder do they just completely lack any form of self awareness. They haven’t really proved themselves to be very competent recently.

They also said if Boris builds a bridge to Scotland  they’d maybe trust him again ;D
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 15, 2019, 09:43:02 PM
I used to think they were just taking the piss out of people with this kind of stuff but I do sometimes wonder do they just completely lack any form of self awareness. They haven’t really proved themselves to be very competent recently.

They also said if Boris builds a bridge to Scotland  they’d maybe trust him again ;D

It's was great seeing her with the face tripping her live at Titanic early Friday morning.  Can't wait till RHI report now.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: under the bar on December 15, 2019, 10:39:26 PM
They are fucked.  Not that the Tories really give a f**k but at least in Dodds, they had someone who, as a barrister, has to give convincing speeches for a living. Now they are left with chip-shop Sammy to convince parliament not to vote the Boris deal through with Eastwood and Hanna telling it like it really is. Brilliant!! ;D
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: JohnDenver on December 16, 2019, 08:27:49 AM
They are fucked.  Not that the Tories really give a f**k but at least in Dodds, they had someone who, as a barrister, has to give convincing speeches for a living. Now they are left with chip-shop Sammy to convince parliament not to vote the Boris deal through with Eastwood and Hanna telling it like it really is. Brilliant!! ;D

You had Sylvia Hermon telling it like it really is last year, won't matter a fiddlers f**k in the grand scheme of things in westminster. Tories can and will do as they please.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: tbrick18 on December 16, 2019, 02:23:22 PM
They are fucked.  Not that the Tories really give a f**k but at least in Dodds, they had someone who, as a barrister, has to give convincing speeches for a living. Now they are left with chip-shop Sammy to convince parliament not to vote the Boris deal through with Eastwood and Hanna telling it like it really is. Brilliant!! ;D

You had Sylvia Hermon telling it like it really is last year, won't matter a fiddlers f**k in the grand scheme of things in westminster. Tories can and will do as they please.

Exactly right.
It doesn't matter how many from any party here are in Westminster. It's a token gesture and they have no power. SF, in my opinion, with their abstention policy are drawing attention to this. The previous parliament with DUP propping up the Tories was an exception, and even in doing it, they didn't make any real impact on policy.
The only good thing to come out of SDLP and Alliance getting a voice over there now, is that the DUP can't claim to represent NI without it being challenged. Perhaps the media will pick up on that.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: From the Bunker on December 16, 2019, 04:42:53 PM
I used to think they were just taking the piss out of people with this kind of stuff but I do sometimes wonder do they just completely lack any form of self awareness. They haven’t really proved themselves to be very competent recently.

They also said if Boris builds a bridge to Scotland  they’d maybe trust him again ;D

https://www.irishpost.com/news/sammy-wilson-says-boris-johnson-can-win-back-trust-dup-bridge-scotland-175493 (https://www.irishpost.com/news/sammy-wilson-says-boris-johnson-can-win-back-trust-dup-bridge-scotland-175493)
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on December 16, 2019, 05:04:06 PM
I used to think they were just taking the piss out of people with this kind of stuff but I do sometimes wonder do they just completely lack any form of self awareness. They haven’t really proved themselves to be very competent recently.

They also said if Boris builds a bridge to Scotland  they’d maybe trust him again ;D

https://www.irishpost.com/news/sammy-wilson-says-boris-johnson-can-win-back-trust-dup-bridge-scotland-175493 (https://www.irishpost.com/news/sammy-wilson-says-boris-johnson-can-win-back-trust-dup-bridge-scotland-175493)

Wee Sammy needs to build a bridge and get over it.


He should go do some (more) comfort eating with a wee chup from the chuppy...
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: red hander on December 16, 2019, 06:21:06 PM
Still on about this unicorn when infrastructure west of the Bann has been criminally neglected for utterly sectarian reasons. Stupid bastard needs to wise up, more likelihood of a bridge to the moon than there is of this fantasy. Pathetic
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: marty34 on December 16, 2019, 08:06:43 PM
Still on about this unicorn when infrastructure west of the Bann has been criminally neglected for utterly sectarian reasons. Stupid b**tard needs to wise up, more likelihood of a bridge to the moon than there is of this fantasy. Pathetic

John Hume should have got a dual carriageway/motorway from Toomebridge to Derry 30 years ago.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Will it ever end on December 16, 2019, 08:43:57 PM
Still on about this unicorn when infrastructure west of the Bann has been criminally neglected for utterly sectarian reasons. Stupid b**tard needs to wise up, more likelihood of a bridge to the moon than there is of this fantasy. Pathetic

I’d imagine there must be a DUP linked bridge builder that’ll come out of the woodwork if this ever grows legs - please god it doesn’t!
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on December 16, 2019, 08:45:28 PM
Still on about this unicorn when infrastructure west of the Bann has been criminally neglected for utterly sectarian reasons. Stupid b**tard needs to wise up, more likelihood of a bridge to the moon than there is of this fantasy. Pathetic

I’d imagine there must be a DUP linked bridge builder that’ll come out of the woodwork if this ever grows legs - please god it doesn’t!

Red pie-in-the-Sky
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: tbrick18 on December 16, 2019, 08:52:53 PM
Still on about this unicorn when infrastructure west of the Bann has been criminally neglected for utterly sectarian reasons. Stupid b**tard needs to wise up, more likelihood of a bridge to the moon than there is of this fantasy. Pathetic

I’d imagine there must be a DUP linked bridge builder that’ll come out of the woodwork if this ever grows legs - please god it doesn’t!

Red pie-in-the-Sky

 ;D ;D

Sammy and co are:
 
Who will be their leader in Westminster now that Deputy Dawg is no longer there? Will it be Jeffrey?


 
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: smelmoth on December 16, 2019, 09:13:10 PM
Still on about this unicorn when infrastructure west of the Bann has been criminally neglected for utterly sectarian reasons. Stupid b**tard needs to wise up, more likelihood of a bridge to the moon than there is of this fantasy. Pathetic

I’d imagine there must be a DUP linked bridge builder that’ll come out of the woodwork if this ever grows legs - please god it doesn’t!

Red pie-in-the-Sky

 ;D ;D

Sammy and co are:
 
  • insecure about their identity so want a hard bridge link to the mainland to cement their Britishness
  • afraid they could get catholicised in a UI
  • afraid they might get treated the way he and his sort have treated nationalists
  • bigoted dinosaurs
  • all of the above

Who will be their leader in Westminster now that Deputy Dawg is no longer there? Will it be Jeffrey?
1 and 4 are true of the DUP. 2,3 and therefore 5 are not true

Sir Jeffrey will face opposition from within the party but let’s boys like Timothy Johnson will have to pull rank on the party and enforce that decision. Sammy, Gregory, Ian Og and Shannon couldn’t be trusted to string a parliamentary sentence together and the other 2 are neophytes
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Applesisapples on December 18, 2019, 03:38:21 PM
Still on about this unicorn when infrastructure west of the Bann has been criminally neglected for utterly sectarian reasons. Stupid b**tard needs to wise up, more likelihood of a bridge to the moon than there is of this fantasy. Pathetic

I’d imagine there must be a DUP linked bridge builder that’ll come out of the woodwork if this ever grows legs - please god it doesn’t!
To be fair it will be handy to link the independent Republics of Scotland and Ireland😂

Red pie-in-the-Sky

 ;D ;D

Sammy and co are:
 
  • insecure about their identity so want a hard bridge link to the mainland to cement their Britishness
  • afraid they could get catholicised in a UI
  • afraid they might get treated the way he and his sort have treated nationalists
  • bigoted dinosaurs
  • all of the above

Who will be their leader in Westminster now that Deputy Dawg is no longer there? Will it be Jeffrey?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 18, 2019, 07:44:31 PM
A bridge, and a how about a bypass in Moneymore, Cookstown, Dungannon, Armagh and form a proper road network before building a bridge to bad roads in Scotland. Decent by pass in Omagh, even the recently finished Toome bypass, why finish with a roundabout in Toome, and that road should been a straight line to the bridge.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: GJL on December 18, 2019, 09:30:24 PM
A bridge, and a how about a bypass in Moneymore, Cookstown, Dungannon, Armagh and form a proper road network before building a bridge to bad roads in Scotland. Decent by pass in Omagh, even the recently finished Toome bypass, why finish with a roundabout in Toome, and that road should been a straight line to the bridge.

I would say get on with the A5 dual carriage way project that should of been started about 8 years ago. People are needlessly dying every year on that poor excuse of a road.

A f**king bridge. Joke of a party that thankfully are at the beginning of the end.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: armaghniac on December 19, 2019, 06:31:25 PM
Still on about this unicorn when infrastructure west of the Bann has been criminally neglected for utterly sectarian reasons. Stupid b**tard needs to wise up, more likelihood of a bridge to the moon than there is of this fantasy. Pathetic

I’d imagine there must be a DUP linked bridge builder that’ll come out of the woodwork if this ever grows legs - please god it doesn’t!

Red pie-in-the-Sky

 ;D ;D

Sammy and co are:
 
  • insecure about their identity so want a hard bridge link to the mainland to cement their Britishness
  • afraid they could get catholicised in a UI
  • afraid they might get treated the way he and his sort have treated nationalists
  • bigoted dinosaurs
  • all of the above

Who will be their leader in Westminster now that Deputy Dawg is no longer there? Will it be Jeffrey?

6. They can march all the way to Scotland and feck up traffic.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Orior on December 19, 2019, 07:49:54 PM
Not a good day for the DUP.

They've been singled out by the english SoS as holding up an agreement to get Stormont back before Christmas.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: armaghniac on December 19, 2019, 08:09:05 PM
Not a good day for the DUP.

They've been singled out by the english SoS as holding up an agreement to get Stormont back before Christmas.

It hasn't been a great week for them, has it?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: marty34 on December 19, 2019, 09:02:12 PM
Not a good day for the DUP.

They've been singled out by the english SoS as holding up an agreement to get Stormont back before Christmas.

I think, after Brexit, the Irish government now knows what it's like todeal with the DUP....impossible!
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Rossfan on December 19, 2019, 09:14:42 PM
Good to see the c***s being called out.
The oul Tories can go to town on them now ;)
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Will it ever end on December 19, 2019, 09:28:30 PM
What a difference a week makes indeed, Julian Smith is really putting the pressure on calling them out publicly - you can sense the Tories really have cut all ties with them!

On a not totally unrelated point - I can’t fathom the disconnect IPJ has by using his first opportunity in parliament to ask for a f**king bridge to Scotland - there is no joined up thinking at all with that basket case party! I genuinely fear they’ve some related interest who is getting them to push this idea!!!
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: yellowcard on December 20, 2019, 12:05:14 AM
Surprise surprise the DUP say no again and that’s before they even seek approval from their masters in the orange order. Wouldn’t surprise me if the Tories ditch them like a hot potato as they weren’t exactly a strong partner in government in the last 2 parliaments when it came to crucial Brexit votes.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Rossfan on December 20, 2019, 12:10:01 AM
It was  a Conservative Government who ditched the old Stormont and a Conservative Government which concluded the Anglo Irish Agreement in 1985.
The latter put paid to the "as integral a part of the UK as Finchley" argument and recognised the Irish Governnent as a very interested partner in the 6 Cos.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: johnnycool on December 20, 2019, 08:34:26 AM
What a difference a week makes indeed, Julian Smith is really putting the pressure on calling them out publicly - you can sense the Tories really have cut all ties with them!

On a not totally unrelated point - I can’t fathom the disconnect IPJ has by using his first opportunity in parliament to ask for a f**king bridge to Scotland - there is no joined up thinking at all with that basket case party! I genuinely fear they’ve some related interest who is getting them to push this idea!!!

no pandering to the DUP's sensitivities by Julian Smith last night in singling them out as the one party not in agreement with the rest.

Gregory Campbell on this morning defending their position but with more nurse strikes pencilled in for January then you'd expect them to come under serious pressure.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 20, 2019, 08:37:27 AM
I think the DUP will do whatever is necessary to avoid an Assembly election....everybody can see they're bluffing.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: guy crouchback on December 20, 2019, 08:54:19 AM
the big problem Boris now has is keeping the union together in the wake of brexit. to do this he will have to go back to the old ''killing home rule with kindness'' approach the tories invented 150 years ago. this means f**k the DUP and make nice with the rest. you could piss all over the DUP and they will still support the union, its the rest you need to butter up.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: johnnycool on December 20, 2019, 09:01:36 AM
I think the DUP will do whatever is necessary to avoid an Assembly election....everybody can see they're bluffing.

I'd have thought that after the GE results that both the DUP and Sinn Fein would have been avoiding another election like the plague.
Shinners now have a bit of political cover after Smith's remarks about the DUP but still can't see them being too keen on knocking doors in Feb/March time!!

I wonder what's on the table wrt the Irish Language Act if even the submariner is buying into it!
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Rossfan on December 20, 2019, 10:31:13 AM
I take it this Smith lad hasn't much time for DUPUDA?
I know it's a very low bar but he seems to be a vast improvement on the last 2 holders of the post.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: johnnycool on December 20, 2019, 12:06:45 PM
I take it this Smith lad hasn't much time for DUPUDA?
I know it's a very low bar but he seems to be a vast improvement on the last 2 holders of the post.

He's now part of the pan nationalist front according to Jamwie Bwyson....

I could be corrected on this but was Smith not in the May camp and I'd suggest that if he was he'll have no issue in sowing it into Arlene and the DUP after the way they made her change her WA at the last minute and still didn't vote for it..
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: screenexile on December 20, 2019, 12:09:18 PM
I take it this Smith lad hasn't much time for DUPUDA?
I know it's a very low bar but he seems to be a vast improvement on the last 2 holders of the post.

He at least talks to people and would seem to have an interest in what's going on here so ... yes!

Bradley and Brokenshire were less than useless.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Orior on December 20, 2019, 03:23:10 PM
What was fat Nolan's big breaking news this morning?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: lurganblue on December 20, 2019, 03:29:37 PM
What was fat Nolan's big breaking news this morning?

I don't know but apparently the vote was a farce. I don't listen to this bastid but I did get a text about it.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: under the bar on December 20, 2019, 03:30:50 PM
Looks like the sticking point for the OO/UDA's lackies is less to do with the ILA and more to do with the reforms to the POC. The tramps still want to be able to block any bill they don't like, even when they are in the minority!
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on December 20, 2019, 03:36:42 PM
What was fat Nolan's big breaking news this morning?

Tescos are doing 3 boxes of milk tray for a tenner.

Well Nolan thought it was vital news anyway.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: johnnycool on December 20, 2019, 03:43:30 PM
Looks like the sticking point for the OO/UDA's lackies is less to do with the ILA and more to do with the reforms to the POC. The tramps still want to be able to block any bill they don't like, even when they are in the minority!

There's a good chance that an ILA is to be put forward very quickly in the new assembly but it looks like the Shinners, the SDLP, Alliance and even the UUP want the POC mechanism modified to prevent it and other bills being blocked by the DUP who I think would need Jim TUV and some others to get the numbers to block it under the current process.

Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on December 20, 2019, 04:21:55 PM
Looks like the sticking point for the OO/UDA's lackies is less to do with the ILA and more to do with the reforms to the POC. The tramps still want to be able to block any bill they don't like, even when they are in the minority!

The point of a POC is that it prevents the minority being ran over by the majority.

However, with the Alliance party now of significant size and a neutral party - it means you could not too far down the line have a vote for something which was
100% nationalists FOR
100% neutral FOR
49% unionist FOR

Which added up to over 80% over the overall vote  (based on 35:30:35, instead of the 42:17:39*) - yet still not get through because the DUP voted against.


Even as it sits at the moment*, if everyone but the DUP voted for something, that'd be over 67% of the overall vote... and it be denied.


*Proportions based on 2019 GE election
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: armaghniac on December 20, 2019, 07:44:40 PM
I see that Stephen Farry used the cúpla focal in his maiden speech in Westminster.
Neat way of making a point.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: balladmaker on December 21, 2019, 02:39:18 PM
I see that Stephen Farry used the cúpla focal in his maiden speech in Westminster.
Neat way of making a point.

Yup, fair play to him.  Also to Colum Eastwood for what was an elegant maiden speech.  He and Claire Hanna also made their point at the swearing of the oath of allegiance to the Queen and her heirs.

The new SNP MP from Coatbridge was great, he stood with his right hand in the air and fingers crossed :-)
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on December 21, 2019, 09:41:57 PM
Am hearing that there are some very interesting rumours circulating about DUP leader (allegedly)?

Cant leave it at that, do tell
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Boycey on December 21, 2019, 09:47:28 PM
Twitter is your friend
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 21, 2019, 09:53:36 PM
Twitter is your friend

I’ve no twitter, link?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on December 21, 2019, 10:05:57 PM
One question. Why? What is he thinking lol
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 21, 2019, 10:14:18 PM
She’s fecking bogging! She’s the cure for sex addiction
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: sensethetone on December 21, 2019, 10:24:41 PM
If it's in the Sunday World tomorrow it could well be a load a shite..
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Rois on December 21, 2019, 10:40:05 PM
Heard this rumour on Monday past.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 21, 2019, 10:46:22 PM
Heard this rumour on Monday past.

And you’re only letting us know now? That’s unfair
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Rois on December 21, 2019, 10:55:28 PM
Yez wouldn’t have believed it - seriously, who would?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Shamrock Shore on December 21, 2019, 11:04:40 PM
Sweet Jesus. I'd rather be celibate if that was the only choice
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: johnnycool on December 21, 2019, 11:46:43 PM
Has there ever been a more apt title for a thread?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Windmill abu on December 22, 2019, 12:09:43 AM
Did he Rub Her Intimately. another RHI scandal on the horizion
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: under the bar on December 22, 2019, 12:17:58 AM
The pig sArlene has apparently been shagging a toy-boy  in London for a while now.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: red hander on December 22, 2019, 12:22:11 AM
I'd be worried about getting into a car driven by somebody so obviously blind.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: The Subbie on December 22, 2019, 07:09:08 AM
If the snarlene thing is true we could see a mega thread to rival the Iris Robinson toy boy thread :)
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Orior on December 22, 2019, 08:53:58 AM
I'd be worried about getting into a car driven by somebody so obviously blind.

Very good!
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 22, 2019, 09:13:49 AM
Be trawling twitter but just all individual hearsay. Any actual articles on it?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: under the bar on December 22, 2019, 10:06:31 AM
Be trawling twitter but just all individual hearsay. Any actual articles on it?

No articles as subject of a super-injunction it seems. 
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Dougal Maguire on December 22, 2019, 10:39:57 AM
She wasn’t at the talks on Thursday as she was sick (allegedly)
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: TwoUpTwoDown on December 22, 2019, 10:57:32 AM
From working in the locality this has been known now for about a month. Seems to have a serious bit of foundation to it. It is in times like these where it is very handy to have a large involvement in a local hotel...you have your pick of rooms!
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: imtommygunn on December 22, 2019, 11:27:50 AM
It’s what finished Hamilton too by all accounts.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: imtommygunn on December 22, 2019, 11:43:40 AM
Cross party though with the party involved could have been cross community too lol.

This kind of thing could finish her. Here’s hoping though it’d just be some other horrendous individual taking her place.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 22, 2019, 11:45:54 AM
Cross party though with the party involved could have been cross community too lol.

This kind of thing could finish her. Here’s hoping though it’d just be some other horrendous individual taking her place.

Seems you have these affairs going on all the time within these political parties!

The attraction of power
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: imtommygunn on December 22, 2019, 11:49:34 AM
 ;D

Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: GJL on December 22, 2019, 05:16:52 PM
If ya feed a crocodile........

Think the driver was feeding the pony instead of the crocodile. 🤢
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: under the bar on December 22, 2019, 05:48:24 PM
She wasn’t at the talks on Thursday as she was sick (allegedly)


It's a long drive back from London. Doing it with a c**k down your throat would make anyone sick!  :o
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch
Post by: Dire Ear on December 22, 2019, 05:51:47 PM
From working in the locality this has been known now for about a month. Seems to have a serious bit of foundation to it. It is in times like these where it is very handy to have a large involvement in a local hotel...you have your pick of rooms!
Corrick ??
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: TwoUpTwoDown on December 22, 2019, 07:45:13 PM
From working in the locality this has been known now for about a month. Seems to have a serious bit of foundation to it. It is in times like these where it is very handy to have a large involvement in a local hotel...you have your pick of rooms!
Corrick ??

Got it in one.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: Harold Disgracey on December 22, 2019, 10:30:42 PM
Heard about this last Monday, same source said Foster and Pengelly had a massive bust up at the count last week.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: TwoUpTwoDown on December 22, 2019, 10:52:04 PM
Heard about this last Monday, same source said Foster and Pengelly had a massive bust up at the count last week.
Both wanted a slice of Ian Og?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: screenexile on December 23, 2019, 12:13:35 AM
Bryson must be looking for a change at the top in the DUP.

By far the most high profile twitter user commenting on it but believes she shouldn’t be “targeted in this way”. Smart.

This will put massive pressure on her now.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: Dougal Maguire on December 23, 2019, 12:27:57 AM
Heard about this last Monday, same source said Foster and Pengelly had a massive bust up at the count last week.
That’s interesting. I know they don’t get on which is why Pengelly was put up for South Belfast in the first place so as to get her out of the road. Pengelly was hoping to get Carla Lockards MLA post but the Dodds’ could also have an interest there. Exciting times ahead
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: Main Street on December 23, 2019, 09:31:47 AM
Do these rumours about Arlene not humanise her to a wider extent than previously (wildly) imagined?
I'm thinking Tommy Tiernan here.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: johnnycool on December 23, 2019, 10:29:57 AM
From working in the locality this has been known now for about a month. Seems to have a serious bit of foundation to it. It is in times like these where it is very handy to have a large involvement in a local hotel...you have your pick of rooms!
Corrick ??

Got it in one.

How large is the involvement?

https://www.tyronetimes.co.uk/news/minister-opens-1-4million-spa-at-corick-house-hotel-in-tyrone-1-6991261 (https://www.tyronetimes.co.uk/news/minister-opens-1-4million-spa-at-corick-house-hotel-in-tyrone-1-6991261)
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: Dougal Maguire on December 23, 2019, 10:47:51 AM
I’d heard 50% but there’s no record of anything in the Assembly Register of Members’ Interests
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: imtommygunn on December 23, 2019, 11:15:50 AM
I wonder how many boilers they have...
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: johnnycool on December 23, 2019, 11:40:52 AM
I wonder how many boilers they have...

One for the heating and one has moved into a room allegedly...
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: imtommygunn on December 23, 2019, 11:42:59 AM
Nothing dubious about that at all ???
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: TwoUpTwoDown on December 23, 2019, 11:57:53 AM
From working in the locality this has been known now for about a month. Seems to have a serious bit of foundation to it. It is in times like these where it is very handy to have a large involvement in a local hotel...you have your pick of rooms!
Corrick ??

Got it in one.

How large is the involvement?

https://www.tyronetimes.co.uk/news/minister-opens-1-4million-spa-at-corick-house-hotel-in-tyrone-1-6991261 (https://www.tyronetimes.co.uk/news/minister-opens-1-4million-spa-at-corick-house-hotel-in-tyrone-1-6991261)


Corrick was known to have been in a spot of financial bother of late. It was then that the involvement certainly became larger. Again this is well known in the locality...however I can't confirm the number of RHI boilers involved  ;)
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: marty34 on December 23, 2019, 12:02:07 PM
Is all this just a rumour?  If true, I mean would you go you your local hotel/owner of a piece in it if front of local workers etc. if this was the case.

Could be a case of the queen 'passing away' a few weeks ago!!!!



Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: Dougal Maguire on December 23, 2019, 12:21:15 PM
I think it’s true ok
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on December 23, 2019, 01:42:11 PM
Ulster says YES, YES, YES!!!

:boke:
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: sensethetone on December 23, 2019, 01:56:47 PM
Ulster says YES, YES, YES!!!

:boke:

What's yes in Ulster-scotch.. Och Aye?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: armaghniac on December 23, 2019, 02:08:28 PM
Probably Pengelly was criticising Arlene's behaviour as bringing the DUP into disrepute.

Bryson not helping things by condemning the rumour, without suggesting it wasn't true.


Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: red hander on December 23, 2019, 02:44:13 PM
Probably Pengelly was criticising Arlene's behaviour as bringing the DUP into disrepute.

Bryson not helping things by condemning the rumour, without suggesting it wasn't true.




John Finucane has family and children but it didn't stop UVF boy from harassing him, though, to be fair, it did backfire spectacularly on the Elmer Fudd of Donaghadee.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 23, 2019, 03:51:27 PM
Thats what got Arlene into bother in the first place lad
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: gallsman on December 23, 2019, 04:24:13 PM
Thats what got Arlene into bother in the first place lad


Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: delgany on December 23, 2019, 06:50:54 PM
Probably Pengelly was criticising Arlene's behaviour as bringing the DUP into disrepute.

Bryson not helping things by condemning the rumour, without suggesting it wasn't true.





Democratic Unionist MEP Diane Dodds is to replace Carla Lockhart as assembly member for Upper Bann.

Ms Lockhart MP resigned from the Northern Ireland Assembly after she became MP for the 

Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: tonto1888 on December 23, 2019, 07:23:44 PM
Probably Pengelly was criticising Arlene's behaviour as bringing the DUP into disrepute.

Bryson not helping things by condemning the rumour, without suggesting it wasn't true.





Democratic Unionist MEP Diane Dodds is to replace Carla Lockhart as assembly member for Upper Bann.

Ms Lockhart MP resigned from the Northern Ireland Assembly after she became MP for the

I thought we were getting ELP
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: shantygael on December 23, 2019, 07:40:52 PM
See the church leaders are urging the local politicians to go the extra mile. Small steps though....an extra few inches nightly will do rightly, in the first instance.
And Paisley back in the day  giving it the "Not an inch" speech.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: johnnycool on December 27, 2019, 11:38:23 AM
See the church leaders are urging the local politicians to go the extra mile. Small steps though....an extra few inches nightly will do rightly, in the first instance.
And Paisley back in the day  giving it the "Not an inch" speech.

Arlene's legal team threatening Dr Christian jessen over a tweet...

Wonder will she have more success with him than she did with Sam McBride.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 27, 2019, 12:52:12 PM
See the church leaders are urging the local politicians to go the extra mile. Small steps though....an extra few inches nightly will do rightly, in the first instance.
And Paisley back in the day  giving it the "Not an inch" speech.

Arlene's legal team threatening Dr Christian jessen over a tweet...

Wonder will she have more success with him than she did with Sam McBride.

The minute they contact Paul Tweed, the minute you know they’re guilty. Would have been better served making a bland dismissal statement and leaving it at that.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: johnnycool on December 27, 2019, 01:29:54 PM
See the church leaders are urging the local politicians to go the extra mile. Small steps though....an extra few inches nightly will do rightly, in the first instance.
And Paisley back in the day  giving it the "Not an inch" speech.

Arlene's legal team threatening Dr Christian jessen over a tweet...

Wonder will she have more success with him than she did with Sam McBride.

The minute they contact Paul Tweed, the minute you know they’re guilty. Would have been better served making a bland dismissal statement and leaving it at that.

This Paul Tweed lad seems to be the DUP's go to man for this kind of thing, not entirely sure he's had much success though.

I suppose he's suppressed a bit of stuff for them allegedly about Ian O'g, Pengelly and Jeffrey's viewing habits whilst in London!!!
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: weareros on December 27, 2019, 04:52:56 PM
If the taxi fare was still running it could be up there with the perpetually burning ash as a shocking waste of taxpayers money.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: red hander on December 27, 2019, 08:45:55 PM
See the church leaders are urging the local politicians to go the extra mile. Small steps though....an extra few inches nightly will do rightly, in the first instance.
And Paisley back in the day  giving it the "Not an inch" speech.

Arlene's legal team threatening Dr Christian jessen over a tweet...

Wonder will she have more success with him than she did with Sam McBride.

The minute they contact Paul Tweed, the minute you know they’re guilty. Would have been better served making a bland dismissal statement and leaving it at that.

Very true.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: Walter Cronc on December 27, 2019, 11:41:02 PM
See the church leaders are urging the local politicians to go the extra mile. Small steps though....an extra few inches nightly will do rightly, in the first instance.
And Paisley back in the day  giving it the "Not an inch" speech.

Arlene's legal team threatening Dr Christian jessen over a tweet...

Wonder will she have more success with him than she did with Sam McBride.

The minute they contact Paul Tweed, the minute you know they’re guilty. Would have been better served making a bland dismissal statement and leaving it at that.

This Paul Tweed lad seems to be the DUP's go to man for this kind of thing, not entirely sure he's had much success though.

I suppose he's suppressed a bit of stuff for them allegedly about Ian O'g, Pengelly and Jeffrey's viewing habits whilst in London!!!

Ah sir come on. Spill.
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Post by: weareros on December 28, 2019, 01:55:07 AM
He allegedly watched clean family movies and expensed them, not Bromance. https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/i-just-watched-family-movies-says-jeffrey-donaldson-28486800.html
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: shantygael on December 28, 2019, 01:46:32 PM
See the church leaders are urging the local politicians to go the extra mile. Small steps though....an extra few inches nightly will do rightly, in the first instance.
And Paisley back in the day  giving it the "Not an inch" speech.

Arlene's legal team threatening Dr Christian jessen over a tweet...

Wonder will she have more success with him than she did with Sam McBride.

The minute they contact Paul Tweed, the minute you know they’re guilty. Would have been better served making a bland dismissal statement and leaving it at that.

This Paul Tweed lad seems to be the DUP's go to man for this kind of thing, not entirely sure he's had much success though.

I suppose he's suppressed a bit of stuff for them allegedly about Ian O'g, Pengelly and Jeffrey's viewing habits whilst in London!!!

Ah sir come on. Spill.
Doe he not have  the type of friend  which goes against party policy  over in London.😁
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: LeoMc on December 28, 2019, 05:29:42 PM
Would he recognise Cathal “Fergus” McCarron from the TV?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: under the bar on December 30, 2019, 06:42:48 PM
He allegedly watched clean family movies and expensed them, not Bromance. https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/i-just-watched-family-movies-says-jeffrey-donaldson-28486800.html

Why anyone would think that Geoffrey might be interested in gay porn is beyond me!
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: armaghniac on January 02, 2020, 01:17:58 AM
Little Emma is off to work with orangutans, as distinct from orange tans. 
https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/politics/ex-dup-mp-emma-little-pengelly-is-to-volunteer-in-jungle-after-a-bumpy-year-1-9188178
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 02, 2020, 05:24:22 PM
Sam McBride's excellent book on the RHI scandal, Burned, is on sale (by mistake apparently but will take 24 hours to rectify) for just 99p as the Kindle edition: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07Z8GLKV6
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: GetOverTheBar on January 02, 2020, 05:29:03 PM
Little Emma is off to work with orangutans, as distinct from orange tans. 
https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/politics/ex-dup-mp-emma-little-pengelly-is-to-volunteer-in-jungle-after-a-bumpy-year-1-9188178

She must not fancy a few weeks at home with nothing to do only talk to the husba....
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Post by: armaghniac on January 02, 2020, 06:11:53 PM
Sam McBride's excellent book on the RHI scandal, Burned, is on sale (by mistake apparently but will take 24 hours to rectify) for just 99p as the Kindle edition: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07Z8GLKV6

It would be a cute move for someone with a few £ to sponsor the book on Amazon at the price for a few days.
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Post by: Square Ball on January 02, 2020, 06:21:25 PM
Was sent a copy of Burnt ages ago.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: under the bar on January 03, 2020, 06:00:00 PM
Little Emma is off to work with orangutans, as distinct from orange tans. 
https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/politics/ex-dup-mp-emma-little-pengelly-is-to-volunteer-in-jungle-after-a-bumpy-year-1-9188178

Presumably another murky story is about to break the news and Junior's knob-polisher wants to be as far away from it as possible?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: red hander on January 04, 2020, 12:24:44 AM
Her husband will obviously miss her, such was his reluctance to let her go to the jungle to wipe the holes of apes and gorillas. She must be still pining for the boyo who dropped her like a sack of shite after meeting thon Mexican blade and moved to live in that country.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: bogball88 on January 06, 2020, 10:54:12 AM
Her husband will obviously miss her, such was his reluctance to let her go to the jungle to wipe the holes of apes and gorillas. She must be still pining for the boyo who dropped her like a sack of shite after meeting thon Mexican blade and moved to live in that country.
Who was that now?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: Tyrdub on January 06, 2020, 03:17:59 PM
Her husband will obviously miss her, such was his reluctance to let her go to the jungle to wipe the holes of apes and gorillas. She must be still pining for the boyo who dropped her like a sack of shite after meeting thon Mexican blade and moved to live in that country.
Who was that now?

+1 ??
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Putting the "69" back into "1690"
Post by: Fionntamhnach on March 12, 2020, 01:26:30 PM
Not exactly DUP, but it does involve the son of DUP MLA Mervyn Storey...

A son of Policing Board member and DUP MLA Mervyn Storey has been fined £300 after he admitted he told police at last year's Lundy's parade in L****nderry that he didn't want "to walk past Fenians".

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/dup-mans-son-told-psni-he-didnt-want-to-walk-past-fenians-39037673.html





* A certain word has been censored in case a few here get triggered.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - No longer able to make Boris Johnson sit on the naughty step
Post by: Hereiam on March 13, 2020, 09:34:28 AM
So the RHI report is out today and my god they couldnt has asked for a better time for it to be released. Expect it to all to be swept under the carpet and never heard of again. The lord works in mysterious ways.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - No longer able to make Boris Johnson sit on the naughty step
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 13, 2020, 10:06:18 AM
So the RHI report is out today and my god they couldnt has asked for a better time for it to be released. Expect it to all to be swept under the carpet and never heard of again. The lord works in mysterious ways.

Its a great day to get rid of bad news
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - No longer able to make Boris Johnson sit on the naughty step
Post by: TheOptimist on March 13, 2020, 10:24:09 AM
keep an eye out for the Russia report also as soon as the UK hits peak panic
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - No longer able to make Boris Johnson sit on the naughty step
Post by: Main Street on March 13, 2020, 08:41:13 PM
Very convenient that the report headline reads 

No corruption involved in cash for ash scandal,

It has the smell of a crude stormont whitewash.

I read Sam McBride's artice in the Belfast Newsletter about the report,
https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/uk-news/rhi-inquiry-verdict-no-corruption-involved-cash-ash-scandal-senior-dup-and-civil-service-figures-criticised-2449882 (https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/uk-news/rhi-inquiry-verdict-no-corruption-involved-cash-ash-scandal-senior-dup-and-civil-service-figures-criticised-2449882)
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He gives account of serious findings which fall beyond the definition of corruption.
If it were a criminal fraud investigation, the carpet might well have  have been lifted

RHI Inquiry verdict:
No corruption involved in cash for ash scandal, but senior DUP and civil service figures criticised

The cash for ash scandal did not happen because of corrupt or malicious activity by civil servants, ministers or special advisers, Sir Patrick Coghlin’s public inquiry into RHI has found.



The report of the inquiry into the Renewable Heat Incentive (RHI) has also absolved First Minister Arlene Foster, the minister who established the scheme, of blame in relation to some of the most damaging allegations which had been levelled at her by her successor as Energy Minister, Jonathan Bell.
However, the inquiry has severely criticised many civil servants and has also criticised a series of senior political figures for their actions – including Mrs Foster.
Sir Patrick’s report – which is in three volumes and runs to more than 650 pages – uses language which is often restrained.


The chairman of the Renewable Heat Incentive Inquiry, the Right Honourable Sir Patrick Coghlin pictured with the inquiry panel member Dame Una O'Brien, left, and technical expert Dr Keith MacLean OBE, right, in September 2017, at the outset of the hearings. The inquiry reported today, Friday March 13 2020. Pic Colm Lenaghan/Pacemaker

In summing up the issue, the report says: “Corrupt or malicious activity on the part of officials, ministers or special advisers was not the cause of what went wrong with the NI RHI scheme (albeit the inquiry has identified some instances where behaviour was unacceptable).
“Rather, the vast majority of what went wrong was due to an accumulation of errors and omissions over time and a failure of attention, on the part of all those involved in their differing roles, to identify the existence, significance or implications of those errors and omissions.”
It added: “There is no guarantee that the weaknesses shown in governance, staffing and leadership revealed by the inquiry’s investigation of the NI RHI scheme could not combine again to undermine some future initiative.”
Arlene Foster – who had been minister in the Department for Enterprise, Trade and Investment (DETI) – admitted to the inquiry that she had not bothered to read the RHI regulations – the legislation under which the scheme was established.
Sir Patrick’s report said: “The inquiry considers that the minister, in presenting the regulations to the Assembly and asking for their approval, should have read them herself, not least because in the inquiry’s view to do so is a core part of a minister’s job.


“If she and/or her spad had read the regulations, this might well have made no difference to the outcome; but if they had done so, or taken a more active interest in the development of the regulations, this would have provided an opportunity for each of them to see that, particularly with regard to the submission that she had received on 16 March 2012, there were no reviews ‘built-in’ to the regulations....there was no definition of ‘useful heat’, and no form of budget control had been included.”
Although Mrs Foster and her special adviser, Andrew Crawford, were given misleading and incomplete information by officials, the inquiry said that at least one of them “should have asked more questions and sought further reassurance in relation to at least some of the matters identified in the submission of 12 March 2012...Mrs Foster should not have signed a Regulatory Impact Assessment document in which she was declaring that the benefits justified the costs without being provided with or seeking all of the necessary information about the lifetime costs”.
It found that a decision by Dr Crawford, Economy Minsiter Simon Hamilton, his then spad John Robinson and the First Minister’s special adviser Richard Bullick to leak emails in an attempt to shift the focus of criticism from the DUP to civil servants was “unacceptable”.
That decision, at the height of the political crisis in January 2017 was, the inquiry said, “a quite extraordinary and unacceptable step for an executive minister to also acquiesce”.


The inquiry said it was clear that the DUP and Sinn Féin broke the spirit – and perhaps the letter – of the law in their appointment of spads.
It said: “It is clear from the evidence received by the inquiry that both of the two main parties in the Executive, the DUP and Sinn Féin, breached the spirit and/or provisions of the 2013 Act...and the mandatory codes issued by DFP in accordance with sections 7 and 8 of that Act in one way or another”.
Some of the inquiry’s strongest criticisms of political figures centre on the man who was Arlene Foster’s hand-picked special adviser for most of her ministerial career, Andrew Crawford.
The inquiry said that after Dr Crawford was alerted to the likelihood of a “massive spike” in applications to RHI in the summer of 2015, he wrongly did not pass that on to his minister, Finance Minister Arlene Foster.


It said: “The inquiry finds this unacceptable considering the potential financial impacts that would very clearly be of interest to Ms Foster as Minister for DFP.”
The inquiry found that “Dr Crawford’s suggestions [for dealing with the budget overrun] ...were aimed at benefiting poultry farmers and, indirectly, Moy Park an organisation  that dominated the industry in Northern Ireland, an industry in which Dr Crawford’s family were clearly involved”.
However, the inquiry found that “ultimately, Dr Crawford did not deliberately delay the introduction of cost controls. This finding holds notwithstanding the inquiry’s criticism of Dr Crawford for his suggested amendment to the proposals.”
The inquiry went to criticise Dr Crawford, saying that it was “totally unacceptable that Dr Crawford provided confidential information to external parties, including his family”.


It also found that when he came to remove from a ministerial submission an accurate statement about the poultry industry’s role in driving the spike in RHI applications, he should have declared in writing that he had family members who were poultry farmers and RHI claimants.
It said that “in view of the conflict of interest that Dr Crawford had, which had not been formally declared, he should not have been involved in advising on DETI’s Urgent Procedure  document relating to RHI [closure]” and he should not have removed the poultry reference.
Significantly, the inquiry did not accept that evidence of the DUP’s most powerful backroom figure, former spad and current party chief executive Timothy Johnston, was likely correct when he said that he had no role in telling another spad – Tim Cairns – to delay cost controls when the scheme was out of control.
The report said: “The inquiry has given careful consideration to the conflict of evidence between Mr Cairns and Mr Johnston as to whether Mr Johnston had expressed a view that tariff controls would not be introduced.”


On balance, taking into account the oral evidence given by both individuals and the email of 17 August 2015 from Mr Cairns to Mr Johnston, the inquiry prefers the account given by Mr Cairns and finds that Mr Johnston was much more involved in the RHI scheme discussions, including on tariff controls, than Mr Johnston’s evidence to the inquiry would suggest.”
Relating to Jonathan Bell’s claims, the inquiry found “no objective evidence to support Mr Bell’s allegation that Mr Cairns had intervened to keep RHI matters ‘off the agenda’ at meetings”.It also rejected several of his claims in his dramatic December 2016 interview with Stephen Nolan, saying that it was incorrect for him to claim that senior official Chris Stewart had come to him as “a whistleblower” and that both he and his spad share responsibility for not asking for more information on RHI in the summer of 2015.
As RHI was running out of control in early and mid-2015, the inquiry said that “there was a significant lack of effective leadership within DETI in the early weeks of June 2015” and that as the summer wore on “decision making lacked management grip by Dr [Andrew] McCormick, Mr [Chris] Stewart and Mr [John] Mills...the process was allowed to drift.”
The inquiry found that Mr Bell was “fully aware of the agreement for Mr Cairns to liaise with Dr Crawford”.


Some of the inquiry’s severest criticism of civil servants was levelled at Fiona Hepper – one of several officials to have since been promoted and who is now one of the most senior officials in the Department of Education, responsible for Northern Ireland’s schools system.
The inquiry found that on several occasions she had been involved in misleading documentation going to Mrs Foster.
The inquiry found it was unlikely that Ms Hepper, DETI’s head of energy, had told Mrs Foster that the scheme was not being wholly funded by the Treasury prior to its launch, something the inquiry said was “of very considerable importance”.
The inquiry also found a series of failures by Ms Hepper, her deputy Joanne McCutcheon and her subordinate Peter Hutchinson in alerting the minister to aspects of the scheme.
Sir Patrick found that one of Ms Hepper and Mr Hutchinson’s assertions to Mrs Foster – that a Northern Ireland RHI would produce the most heat at the best value – was “a serious omission likely to mislead any reader”.


The inquiry rejected Ms Hepper’s claim that several months before RHI was launched she had verbally warned Arlene Foster in explicit terms that Ofgem had told civil servants that RHI was vulnerable from the outset because it was being launched without cost controls.
It said: “If the conversation between Ms Hepper and the minister did take place, the inquiry finds that the warning was not highlighted as Ms Hepper maintained.
“It is the view of the inquiry that if such a warning were being raised with the minister it should have been the subject of a careful minute or record setting out the advice that Ms Hepper had provided to the minister and the minister’s response thereto.”
Sir Patrick said that the Assembly committee which scrutinised DETI “was not provided with sufficient/adequate information to permit [it] to effectively discharge its scrutiny function”.


The inquiry said that DETI allocated “inadequate” resources to the creation of RHI and that it should never have embarked on the scheme, given its complexity and the department’s lack of resources.
It said that once the scheme was up and running the decision to allow almost all of those with any responsibility for RHI to leave DETI within the space of a few months from about a year after the scheme was established “should not have been allowed to happen....the level of turnover should have been escalated to top management within DETI and failure to do so clearly suggested a lack of leadership.”
It added: “The inquiry found it difficult to understand how this significant changeover of senior and junior staff was permitted to occur....”
The inquiry found that briefing of industry which alerted certain businesses that RHI was to be reined in was “wholly inappropriate” on the part of civil servants and “it was particularly unacceptable that external parties were being informed of plans before they had been seen or approved by the minister”.
It also found that “the selective nature of the officials’ contacts was capable of producing significant market distortion by providing commercially sensitive information to some parties and not to others”.


The inquiry criticised officials in the then Sinn Féin Agriculture Minister Michelle O’Neill’s department for not passing on to DETI their knowledge of the likely demand for RHI from farmers - and huge heat demand among Moy Park’s poultry farmers.
It said: “The inquiry considers that the remarks of Agriculture Minister O’Neill in her written evidence to the inquiry quoted in this chapter, that it was not for her to scrutinse the work of another minister, do not seem to deal with the need for basic departmental cooperation in the interest of avoiding excessive expenditure of public funds.”
It said that agriculture officials present at events where RHI was being openly marketed as “free heat” and “cash for ash” should have appreciated “the potential for the scheme to provide excessively generous rewards.
“Effective departmental cooperation would have required making those facts known to DETI.”


The inquiry also praised businesswoman Janette O’Hagan, who from just a few months into RHI attempted to warn Arlene Foster personally about the scheme’s fundamental flaw, and who then repeatedly tried to get Mrs Foster’s officials to believe her.
Sir Patrick’s report said: “The inquiry considered Ms O’Hagan to be an impressive witness and it was not difficult to sympathise with her sense of frustration at the apparent inaction of a government department for some two years, even failing to carry out any investigation into the evidence that she had provided with regard to the perverse incentive to waste public funds.”
It went on: “Regardless of what official guidelines said on whistleblowing, any member of the public bringing forward a serious concern was entitled to have those concerns taken seriously.
“The treatment of both Ms O’Hagan and her attempts at communicating her concerns fell well below the standard that she was entitled to expect from the department.”
The response of Mrs Foster’s officials to Ms O’Hagan when they met her was “completely inadequate”.


It said that Ms O’Hagan’s evidence that when told of abuse the officials had said “people wouldn’t do that” was something which shows “a culture which allows such blinkered belief in the correctness of their approach is of significant concern to the inquiry and must not be allowed to continue if such a situation is to be avoided in the future”.
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Post by: LeoMc on March 13, 2020, 11:28:35 PM
The 2 Tyrone lads, Beraghs Crawford and Eskras Robinson get out of this fairly lightly.
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Post by: Hereiam on March 14, 2020, 05:45:18 AM
Was to be expected but every dog on the street knows what went on.
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Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 14, 2020, 08:26:01 AM
Quite a number of the Civil Servants involved have in the intervening period been promoted and, under a competency based interview scenario most likely used their involvement in RHI as an example of how they met the relevant competencies. There should be a clamour to have these reviewed in light of the findings of the Inquiry
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Post by: smelmoth on March 15, 2020, 03:29:04 PM
Was to be expected but every dog on the street knows what went on.

Tell us what went on then
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - No longer able to make Boris Johnson sit on the naughty step
Post by: johnnycool on March 17, 2020, 09:56:51 AM
Quite a number of the Civil Servants involved have in the intervening period been promoted and, under a competency based interview scenario most likely used their involvement in RHI as an example of how they met the relevant competencies. There should be a clamour to have these reviewed in light of the findings of the Inquiry

North Down Christian element in the higher echelons of the Civil Service.

good living for a living.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: red hander on May 08, 2020, 01:53:15 PM
Honourable mention for all-round idiot Alex Easton, who the Irish News totally stitched up by printing a letter of his verbatim criticising Irish language funding that was so riddled with spelling and grammatical mistakes that it looked like the ramblings of two year old handling a biro for the first time. Not only filmed shopping online for shoes during health committee meeting up at Shitmont, but the tr**p went on post a photo of his staunch brown brogues full of holes in bid to defend his actions. Maybe he should have shopped online for a toupee, judging by the big hole you can see through that ridiculous combover of his.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: hardstation on May 08, 2020, 01:56:55 PM
That’s the Irish language causing problems in the Assembly again. Alex Easton claims he heard a Sinn Féin MLA say, “It’s time we all went on ASOS.”


Anyway, he should have got the boot.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: Rois on May 08, 2020, 02:28:03 PM
That’s the Irish language causing problems in the Assembly again. Alex Easton claims he heard a Sinn Féin MLA say, “It’s time we all went on ASOS.”
;D
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 09, 2020, 01:27:57 PM
Honourable mention for all-round idiot Alex Easton, who the Irish News totally stitched up by printing a letter of his verbatim criticising Irish language funding that was so riddled with spelling and grammatical mistakes that it looked like the ramblings of two year old handling a biro for the first time. Not only filmed shopping online for shoes during health committee meeting up at Shitmont, but the tr**p went on post a photo of his staunch brown brogues full of holes in bid to defend his actions. Maybe he should have shopped online for a toupee, judging by the big hole you can see through that ridiculous combover of his.
I’ve searched Friday’s paper and can’t find it. Any chance you could put it up here? 
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: red hander on May 09, 2020, 03:25:12 PM
Honourable mention for all-round idiot Alex Easton, who the Irish News totally stitched up by printing a letter of his verbatim criticising Irish language funding that was so riddled with spelling and grammatical mistakes that it looked like the ramblings of two year old handling a biro for the first time. Not only filmed shopping online for shoes during health committee meeting up at Shitmont, but the tr**p went on post a photo of his staunch brown brogues full of holes in bid to defend his actions. Maybe he should have shopped online for a toupee, judging by the big hole you can see through that ridiculous combover of his.
I’ve searched Friday’s paper and can’t find it. Any chance you could put it up here?

Letter was few months back (sorry for confusion). Shoe shopping just latest gaffe by gobshite. Could have also mentioned his character reference for UDA sc**bag Dee Stitt. When that was reported by Sunday Life he made complaint to press regulator, who basically told him to f**k off and wise up.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: armaghniac on August 01, 2020, 05:30:54 PM
Sammy doing the anti mask thing




This isn't entirely popular even with his own.
Mind you, the shop staff aren't exactly leading the way.

I'm intrigued by the place he was in The Rinkha in Islandmagee, obvious Gaelic name as it was a former dancehall, but I am wondered at this history of it.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 01, 2020, 05:58:43 PM
Sammy doing the anti mask thing




This isn't entirely popular even with his own.
Mind you, the shop staff aren't exactly leading the way.

I'm intrigued by the place he was in The Rinkha in Islandmagee, obvious Gaelic name as it was a former dancehall, but I am wondered at this history of it.

http://www.therinkha.com/

Google is my friend.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: armaghniac on August 01, 2020, 06:00:54 PM

http://www.therinkha.com/

Google is my friend.

 I read that but didn't seen any explanation of the name.

I also note that someone forgot to pay for islandmagee.com, we should club together and buy it and put a history there of why there no Magees there now.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: imtommygunn on August 01, 2020, 06:01:48 PM
Even pengelly tweeting against it. For a public figure you’d really think he would show some responsibility. An absolute moron.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: armaghniac on August 01, 2020, 07:23:53 PM
Even pengelly tweeting against it. For a public figure you’d really think he would show some responsibility. An absolute moron.

In the DUP the Westminster MPs have largely been wasters, orchestrated by Dodds who is able but who is after his own ends, the most useful part of the DUP stay in the Assembly and hoped to become ministers. WIth Stormont suspended the Westminister wasters led the charge on Brexit, which was a disaster for the DUP. I see Dodds got his gong, along with that political giant Kate Hoey, he'll be happy now and will likely move to England like Trimble.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: imtommygunn on August 01, 2020, 07:55:12 PM
Peerage along with Johnston’s family and some family member of a kgb guy lol.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: johnnycool on August 03, 2020, 10:05:09 AM
Even pengelly tweeting against it. For a public figure you’d really think he would show some responsibility. An absolute moron.

He's getting a fair bit of grief for the state of his hands in the full picture.

He must have been changing the oil in his bike that morning by the looks of them.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: RedHand88 on October 28, 2020, 08:31:44 AM
Sammy Wilson just claimed on good morning ulster that the spike in Derry/Strabane in early September was due to "some GAA celebrations."
He wasn't challenged on such a ridiculous false claim.


I despair at this hole.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 28, 2020, 08:34:52 AM
Sammy Wilson just claimed on good morning ulster that the spike in Derry/Strabane in early September was due to "some GAA celebrations."
He wasn't challenged on such a ridiculous false claim.


I despair at this hole.

The same Sammy that wouldn't wear a mask on public transport? I wouldn't worry what he says
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: armaghniac on November 25, 2020, 03:17:04 PM
More evidence that Wilson is a female genital

https://twitter.com/eastantrimmp/status/1330870219972120576
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: RedHand88 on February 07, 2021, 11:34:02 AM
Perennial poll topper Gregory Campbells musings on the Songs of Praise final.


Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: marty34 on February 07, 2021, 12:53:12 PM
Perennial poll topper Gregory Campbells musings on the Songs of Praise final.




A lot of heat coming on him now - good to see.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: grounded on February 07, 2021, 01:36:43 PM
Perennial poll topper Gregory Campbells musings on the Songs of Praise final.




Sadly, will probably get him a few extra votes from the DUP faithful. Very Christian of him.
     His views on the gay community are also depressingly similar.
     What another politician in England, scotland or wales get away with this?
      Well he's a w**ker and i know thats not very Christian of me but Fu#k it. 
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: general_lee on February 07, 2021, 02:07:20 PM
Who’d have thought it... can only hope the British media get wind of it and kick up a stink
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: An Watcher on February 07, 2021, 02:45:15 PM
Is it some sort of deflection tactic? Maybe I'm reading into it too much but can never trust them
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: imtommygunn on February 07, 2021, 07:09:31 PM
I would not be surprised.

I would love to see good investigation into Larne council shutting the customs there. It is beginning to look like they are telling porkies.

They are at their work at the minute and someone will end up seriously hurt or worse and they will as usual wash their hands of it.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: general_lee on February 07, 2021, 07:17:51 PM
I would not be surprised.

I would love to see good investigation into Larne council shutting the customs there. It is beginning to look like they are telling porkies.

They are at their work at the minute and someone will end up seriously hurt or worse and they will as usual wash their hands of it.
Someone already ended up hurt driving a lorry outside larne. I firmly believe that was the work of DUP-inspired loyalists
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: imtommygunn on February 07, 2021, 07:46:37 PM
Sadly you are probably not wrong.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: marty34 on February 07, 2021, 07:52:28 PM
I would not be surprised.

I would love to see good investigation into Larne council shutting the customs there. It is beginning to look like they are telling porkies.

They are at their work at the minute and someone will end up seriously hurt or worse and they will as usual wash their hands of it.
Someone already ended up hurt driving a lorry outside larne. I firmly believe that was the work of DUP-inspired loyalists

With hindsight, seems to have been alright.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2021, 09:43:00 AM
Gregory Campbell is making a statement later on about his controversial tweet(or facebook message or whatever it was).

This should be good...
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 08, 2021, 10:34:56 AM
Gregory Campbell is making a statement later on about his controversial tweet(or facebook message or whatever it was).

This should be good...

Apologising for not wearing his klan robe while making that last statement.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: Rossfan on February 08, 2021, 10:58:37 AM
" I was quoted out of context. I clearly said black haired people"
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: seafoid on February 08, 2021, 11:00:47 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/06/ireland-conservatives-dup-union-brexit
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: grounded on February 08, 2021, 04:46:38 PM
Gregory Campbell is making a statement later on about his controversial tweet(or facebook message or whatever it was).

This should be good...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55985100

Good old Gregory. Twat
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: tbrick18 on February 08, 2021, 04:53:11 PM
Gregory Campbell is making a statement later on about his controversial tweet(or facebook message or whatever it was).

This should be good...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55985100

Good old Gregory. Twat

He's one of the worst out there.
A total bigot and racist yet many thousands vote for him and no doubt his party will not condemn him for the comments.
Sad state of affairs.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: GJL on February 08, 2021, 05:07:55 PM
They are down in the polls. The knuckle dragging, right winged idiots that usually vote for him will love this.

It is disgusting but also depressingly effective.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: general_lee on February 08, 2021, 07:24:58 PM
Is anyone really surprised? Gregory Campbell is just representing the views widely held within loyalism. In any normal society he’d not only be forced to apologise but also resign. Only a warped racist would be triggered enough to go on social media and complain about the colour of the skin of people featured in a tv programme.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: seafoid on February 08, 2021, 08:07:10 PM
They are down in the polls. The knuckle dragging, right winged idiots that usually vote for him will love this.

It is disgusting but also depressingly effective.
They'll stay down in the polls. Brexit was a massive mistake.
Driving down voters' cost of living is political poison.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: Franko on February 08, 2021, 08:14:44 PM
I think you are right on this one seafoid.

I think they have finally fcuked themselves.

It's alright creaming a few quid here and there from the state coffers... but once you try to hit Billy from Ballymena in his own pocket he starts looking at things a little differently
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: lenny on February 08, 2021, 08:18:07 PM
They are down in the polls. The knuckle dragging, right winged idiots that usually vote for him will love this.

It is disgusting but also depressingly effective.
They'll stay down in the polls. Brexit was a massive mistake.
Driving down voters' cost of living is political poison.

Their racism and homophobia has seen them haemorrhage votes to the alliance party. The problem for them is that they are now also losing votes to the tuv because of brexit. They can’t get back both these set of voters and they have chosen to go after the tuv votes. That means increasing their racism, sectarianism and homophobia.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: StPatsAbu on February 08, 2021, 08:21:00 PM
Gregory knows how to keep the far right/sectarian/racist boiler stoked. Tweets about surviving hunger-strikers 'not being very good at it', or jokes about the Gibraltar 3 have kept him in the news and appeal to his bottom-feeding electorate
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: 6th sam on February 08, 2021, 08:37:11 PM
Is anyone really surprised? Gregory Campbell is just representing the views widely held within loyalism. In any normal society he’d not only be forced to apologise but also resign. Only a warped racist would be triggered enough to go on social media and complain about the colour of the skin of people featured in a tv programme.

Gregory excuse is that he wants diversity😜 Has he commented on the under-representation of blacks, Asians, or women in his local lodge.

Much like most folk singers here are white Irish, Gospel singing is most popular in the black community, in fact black gospel is easily the most vibrant form of gospel music. And guess what , the best judges, presenters and singers are far more likely to come from the black community. Did he comment about how few blacks compete or judge in the Derry feis? Of course not.

Some of our 26 county posters, can’t understand why so many Northerners are so passionate about a United Ireland....it’s because this statelet was founded on sectarianism, and not only tolerated but fostered bigotry of all kinds. The likes of Gregory Campbell is tolerated and actually thrives here. I’ve lived all my life listening to the likes of Campbell , Paisley, Mccaulsland , Wilson coming out with outrageous dinosaur statements: unscientific, racist, sectarian, you name it. Not only do they get away with it, they usually go unchallenged by the media or even good people in their own community . Bizarre place we live in.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: pbat on February 08, 2021, 09:04:31 PM
They are down in the polls. The knuckle dragging, right winged idiots that usually vote for him will love this.

It is disgusting but also depressingly effective.
They'll stay down in the polls. Brexit was a massive mistake.
Driving down voters' cost of living is political poison.
And the reality is that come a border poll its the ones they are losing to the Alliance will hold the balance of power, yet there still too shortsighted to see 5 years down the line. And Submarine Steve is as bad. There will be pacts all over the place come next election and they will rally the troops with the we cant let SF be first minister.

The likes some Simon Hamilton and Tim Cairns were probably to progressive for the DUP's and they have nobody younger coming through to take the reins.

Their racism and homophobia has seen them haemorrhage votes to the alliance party. The problem for them is that they are now also losing votes to the tuv because of brexit. They can’t get back both these set of voters and they have chosen to go after the tuv votes. That means increasing their racism, sectarianism and homophobia.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: imtommygunn on February 08, 2021, 09:09:09 PM
Hamilton I think was kicked out from what I am led to believe. Not sure who cairns is.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: pbat on February 08, 2021, 09:12:25 PM
Cairns was a Spad, does a lot of media work now, on Talkback regularly. He seems clued in and a lot more progressive.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: restorepride on February 08, 2021, 11:39:59 PM
A true story. 

Constituents of Nelson ripped down recently-erected street signs. 

The signs were found lying in local gardens. 

Residents had taken exception to the language on the signs - Irish - so had taken the politically correct action;  only to find out the next day that the signs were in Ulster-Scots!!!

Ulster Songs of Praise: "Black is the colour ..... of my true love's beard ......"!
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: armaghniac on February 08, 2021, 11:43:51 PM
A true story. 

Constituents of Nelson ripped down recently-erected street signs. 

The signs were found lying in local gardens. 

Residents had taken exception to the language on the signs - Irish - so had taken the politically correct action;  only to find out the next day that the signs were in Ulster-Scots!!!

Ulster Songs of Praise: "Black is the colour ..... of my true love's beard ......"!

Or my true love's heart.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: marty34 on February 09, 2021, 11:14:34 AM
Let's hope John O'Dowd keeps the pressure on the DUP and gets an investigation into what went on in regards to the 'non' threats against the workers at the ports.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Not corrupt, just incompetent. Allegedly.
Post by: johnnycool on February 09, 2021, 11:48:20 AM
Hamilton I think was kicked out from what I am led to believe. Not sure who cairns is.

Allegedly for having an affair with a catholic. Ordinary affairs are OK though.


As for Gregory, Is he saying he's not a racist because he supported some Notts Forest football in not taking the knee at the start of a game and this player is black......

A bit of a stretch even for Gregory.

He and the DUP will ride this one out yet again



Let's hope John O'Dowd keeps the pressure on the DUP and gets an investigation into what went on in regards to the 'non' threats against the workers at the ports.

Yes, Poots and MEA Council are being exposed on this one and the truth needs to come out. I also see the PSNI for some strange reason have arrested two people for graffiti for once in their history.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on February 09, 2021, 11:57:48 AM
To take the bad look of the ormeau road debacle likely lol.

I really hope the DUP get squeezed on the port stuff. The Campbell thing will be swept under the carpet as ever.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Applesisapples on February 09, 2021, 12:12:23 PM
It is quite clear that Forster has no control over Lockhart, Wilson, Paisley or Campbell. Given the nature of their constituencies they would be re-elected as independents if ousted from the DUP, for a start the local party would not stand anyone against them as they reflect their views. Therefore she can do little when they spout controversial vitriol. As for Campbell, how no one mentioned the Curry My Yoghurt instance as further proof of his racist outlook. Making fun of any language whether foreign or native is itself racist.
The Alliance are mopping up middle ground unionists whilst at the other end The TUV are mopping up the super Brits. As for the UUP they are floundering trying to be DUP lite.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on February 09, 2021, 12:34:45 PM
The UUP are really doing themselves no favours at all.

Tbh if Campbell were to go it would say sectarianism is ok but racism is a step too far. While racism is deplorable it is equally as deplorable as sectarianism and no more or no less.

Any which way I don't think anything will happen to him.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: general_lee on February 09, 2021, 12:43:06 PM
Are there many marginal constituencies  for SF/SDLP to enter pacts and oust these bigots?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: seafoid on February 09, 2021, 12:49:06 PM
Are there many marginal constituencies  for SF/SDLP to enter pacts and oust these bigots?

Would Shinner voters support the UUP ?

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: RedHand88 on February 09, 2021, 12:53:25 PM
Are there many marginal constituencies  for SF/SDLP to enter pacts and oust these bigots?

Would Shinner voters suppiort the UUP ?

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/

Honestly the vast majority couldn't. After all, they were the ones in charge for 5 decades of the unionist state. But I understand where you are coming from.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: marty34 on February 09, 2021, 12:59:19 PM
Are there many marginal constituencies  for SF/SDLP to enter pacts and oust these bigots?

SDLP only interested in pacts at last years WM election.

Previous to that, they rejected it.

Elections a year away which is probably good for the DUP but there'll be plenty of twists and turns before that I'd say.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on February 09, 2021, 01:01:31 PM
Are there many marginal constituencies  for SF/SDLP to enter pacts and oust these bigots?

Upper Bann possibly East derry but any sniff of a nationalist pact would soon be challenged with a Unionist pact so Unionism would comfortably hold the seats
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Angelo on February 09, 2021, 01:32:28 PM
Are there many marginal constituencies  for SF/SDLP to enter pacts and oust these bigots?

SDLP are quasi unionists.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Angelo on February 09, 2021, 01:46:57 PM
Are there many marginal constituencies  for SF/SDLP to enter pacts and oust these bigots?

Would Shinner voters support the UUP ?

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/

Extremely unlikely.

What is noticeable is the significant swathes of SDLP votes that will transfer to the UUP when they are eliminated or there is surplus.

I think that tells you everything you need to know about the SDLP.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Orior on February 09, 2021, 02:07:11 PM
Are there many marginal constituencies  for SF/SDLP to enter pacts and oust these bigots?

Upper Bann possibly East derry but any sniff of a nationalist pact would soon be challenged with a Unionist pact so Unionism would comfortably hold the seats

What if it was kept secret until 1 second before nominations were submitted?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on February 09, 2021, 02:14:35 PM
Are there many marginal constituencies  for SF/SDLP to enter pacts and oust these bigots?

Upper Bann possibly East derry but any sniff of a nationalist pact would soon be challenged with a Unionist pact so Unionism would comfortably hold the seats

What if it was kept secret until 1 second before nominations were submitted?

Would be some craic
Defo worth it to see the unionist outrage
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: seafoid on February 09, 2021, 02:39:52 PM
Are there many marginal constituencies  for SF/SDLP to enter pacts and oust these bigots?

Upper Bann possibly East derry but any sniff of a nationalist pact would soon be challenged with a Unionist pact so Unionism would comfortably hold the seats
East Derry had a very low UUP plus Alliance  vote in 2019

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/ael.htm

Lagan Valley

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/alv.htm

or South Antrim
https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/asa.htm

 might be more fruitful
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Angelo on February 09, 2021, 02:52:27 PM
Are there many marginal constituencies  for SF/SDLP to enter pacts and oust these bigots?

Upper Bann possibly East derry but any sniff of a nationalist pact would soon be challenged with a Unionist pact so Unionism would comfortably hold the seats
East Derry had a very low UUP plus Alliance  vote in 2019

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/ael.htm

Lagan Valley

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/alv.htm

or South Antrim
https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/asa.htm

 might be more fruitful

There's not really any difference between SDLP and Alliance though. That's just a fact of the matter, the SDLP stopped being a nationalist party a long time ago, if they were ever one in the first place.

The fact that the SDLP transfer more heavily to the UUP than they do to SF tells you all you need to know about their political outlook.


Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on February 09, 2021, 03:17:51 PM
Are there many marginal constituencies  for SF/SDLP to enter pacts and oust these bigots?

Upper Bann possibly East derry but any sniff of a nationalist pact would soon be challenged with a Unionist pact so Unionism would comfortably hold the seats
East Derry had a very low UUP plus Alliance  vote in 2019

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/ael.htm

Lagan Valley

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/alv.htm

or South Antrim
https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/asa.htm

 might be more fruitful

There's not really any difference between SDLP and Alliance though. That's just a fact of the matter, the SDLP stopped being a nationalist party a long time ago, if they were ever one in the first place.

The fact that the SDLP transfer more heavily to the UUP than they do to SF tells you all you need to know about their political outlook.

Where are you getting those figures from. They will transfer to sf and alliance before they get anywhere near he UUP
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: pbat on February 09, 2021, 03:22:26 PM
Aim would be to turn East Belfast back to Alliance.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: general_lee on February 09, 2021, 03:47:07 PM
I’d vote alliance if sf/sdlp stood aside. I know it’s a far shout but I’d love to see the DUP obliterated
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Feckitt on February 09, 2021, 04:20:21 PM

[/quote]

There's not really any difference between SDLP and Alliance though. That's just a fact of the matter, the SDLP stopped being a nationalist party a long time ago, if they were ever one in the first place.

The fact that the SDLP transfer more heavily to the UUP than they do to SF tells you all you need to know about their political outlook.
[/quote]

This is bullshit on a number of fronts.  Whether you like them or not it is stupid to pretend that SDLP are not a Nationalist Party.  Also to claim they stopped being one a long time ago ignores the fact that the leadership has taken a much more pro -unity stance since Eastwood took over as leader.

Also the claim that they transfer more to the UUP than SF is an out an out lie which doesn't even have a shred of credibility
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Angelo on February 09, 2021, 04:27:16 PM
Are there many marginal constituencies  for SF/SDLP to enter pacts and oust these bigots?

Upper Bann possibly East derry but any sniff of a nationalist pact would soon be challenged with a Unionist pact so Unionism would comfortably hold the seats
East Derry had a very low UUP plus Alliance  vote in 2019

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/ael.htm

Lagan Valley

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/alv.htm

or South Antrim
https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/asa.htm

 might be more fruitful

There's not really any difference between SDLP and Alliance though. That's just a fact of the matter, the SDLP stopped being a nationalist party a long time ago, if they were ever one in the first place.

The fact that the SDLP transfer more heavily to the UUP than they do to SF tells you all you need to know about their political outlook.

Where are you getting those figures from. They will transfer to sf and alliance before they get anywhere near he UUP

Page 6.

http://www.niassembly.gov.uk/globalassets/documents/raise/publications/2017-2022/2017/general/2317.pdf

15.4% of SDLP transfers to SF
23.5% of SDLP transfers to UUP
4.4% of SDLP transfers to DUP

41.1% of SF transfers to SDLP
0.7% of SF transfers to UUP
0.4% of SF transfers to DUP


So effectively 27.9% of SDLP transfer their first vote to one of the two main stream unionist party (>1 in 4).
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Angelo on February 09, 2021, 04:28:26 PM


There's not really any difference between SDLP and Alliance though. That's just a fact of the matter, the SDLP stopped being a nationalist party a long time ago, if they were ever one in the first place.

The fact that the SDLP transfer more heavily to the UUP than they do to SF tells you all you need to know about their political outlook.
[/quote]

This is bullshit on a number of fronts.  Whether you like them or not it is stupid to pretend that SDLP are not a Nationalist Party.  Also to claim they stopped being one a long time ago ignores the fact that the leadership has taken a much more pro -unity stance since Eastwood took over as leader.

Also the claim that they transfer more to the UUP than SF is an out an out lie which doesn't even have a shred of credibility
[/quote]

See post above.

It is an absolute fact.

So apologise to me this instant.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: trailer on February 09, 2021, 04:28:51 PM
Are there many marginal constituencies  for SF/SDLP to enter pacts and oust these bigots?

Upper Bann possibly East derry but any sniff of a nationalist pact would soon be challenged with a Unionist pact so Unionism would comfortably hold the seats
East Derry had a very low UUP plus Alliance  vote in 2019

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/ael.htm

Lagan Valley

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/alv.htm

or South Antrim
https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/asa.htm

 might be more fruitful

Lagan Valley will be interesting next time around. Eastwood for Alliance gave that a serious run. If she runs again and can turn enough DUP and UUP voter over to her there's an outside shock on the cards. It's also a constituency with a lot of new houses and they'll have that moderate young protestant professional in them AKA Alliance voters. One thing though is that Jeffrey is actually one of the more moderate DUPers and it was interesting he was rolled out when they softened their anti lockdown stance. He'd be closer to Alliance and the centre than many others in the party. Really interesting one for me. I'd imagine he will run but if for some reason he doesn't expect that seat to flip.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Rossfan on February 09, 2021, 04:38:04 PM
Jeffrey is always trundled out on the RTÉ news to sound reasonable and moderate following  DUPUDA outbursts to their extreme wing in the North.
When are the next Assembly Elections?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Orior on February 09, 2021, 04:39:05 PM
Are there many marginal constituencies  for SF/SDLP to enter pacts and oust these bigots?

Upper Bann possibly East derry but any sniff of a nationalist pact would soon be challenged with a Unionist pact so Unionism would comfortably hold the seats
East Derry had a very low UUP plus Alliance  vote in 2019

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/ael.htm

Lagan Valley

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/alv.htm

or South Antrim
https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/asa.htm

 might be more fruitful

Lagan Valley will be interesting next time around. Eastwood for Alliance gave that a serious run. If she runs again and can turn enough DUP and UUP voter over to her there's an outside shock on the cards. It's also a constituency with a lot of new houses and they'll have that moderate young protestant professional in them AKA Alliance voters. One thing though is that Jeffrey is actually one of the more moderate DUPers and it was interesting he was rolled out when they softened their anti lockdown stance. He'd be closer to Alliance and the centre than many others in the party. Really interesting one for me. I'd imagine he will run but if for some reason he doesn't expect that seat to flip.

Yes, even if Jeffrey is an uphill gardener the god squad will still vote for him.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: trailer on February 09, 2021, 04:44:04 PM
Are there many marginal constituencies  for SF/SDLP to enter pacts and oust these bigots?

Upper Bann possibly East derry but any sniff of a nationalist pact would soon be challenged with a Unionist pact so Unionism would comfortably hold the seats
East Derry had a very low UUP plus Alliance  vote in 2019

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/ael.htm

Lagan Valley

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/alv.htm

or South Antrim
https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/asa.htm

 might be more fruitful

There's not really any difference between SDLP and Alliance though. That's just a fact of the matter, the SDLP stopped being a nationalist party a long time ago, if they were ever one in the first place.

The fact that the SDLP transfer more heavily to the UUP than they do to SF tells you all you need to know about their political outlook.

Where are you getting those figures from. They will transfer to sf and alliance before they get anywhere near he UUP

Page 6.

http://www.niassembly.gov.uk/globalassets/documents/raise/publications/2017-2022/2017/general/2317.pdf

15.4% of SDLP transfers to SF
23.5% of SDLP transfers to UUP
4.4% of SDLP transfers to DUP

41.1% of SF transfers to SDLP
0.7% of SF transfers to UUP
0.4% of SF transfers to DUP


So effectively 27.9% of SDLP transfer their first vote to one of the two main stream unionist party (>1 in 4).

LOL You've completely read the graph wrong. You're stupid. if you even read the 1st page it tells you.

Most of Sinn Féin’s transfers came from the SDLP (41%), other Sinn Féin
candidates (25%), Alliance (7%) and People Before Profit Alliance (6%).

Most of the SDLP’s transfers came from the UUP (24%), Sinn Féin (15%) and
the Alliance Party (11%). Only 2% came from other SDLP candidates.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Angelo on February 09, 2021, 04:53:57 PM
I stand corrected.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: marty34 on February 09, 2021, 07:10:02 PM
What is your opinion of a border poll in 2028, the 30th anniversary of the GFA?

Over 7 years away - is that in the correct timeframe?

This is Bertie's idea by the way.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: GiveItToTheShooters on February 09, 2021, 08:42:33 PM
Trailer and feckitt should be due a few apologies this instant  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: dec on February 09, 2021, 09:09:19 PM
Are there many marginal constituencies  for SF/SDLP to enter pacts and oust these bigots?

Upper Bann possibly East derry but any sniff of a nationalist pact would soon be challenged with a Unionist pact so Unionism would comfortably hold the seats
East Derry had a very low UUP plus Alliance  vote in 2019

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/ael.htm

Lagan Valley

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/alv.htm

or South Antrim
https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/asa.htm

 might be more fruitful

There's not really any difference between SDLP and Alliance though. That's just a fact of the matter, the SDLP stopped being a nationalist party a long time ago, if they were ever one in the first place.

The fact that the SDLP transfer more heavily to the UUP than they do to SF tells you all you need to know about their political outlook.

Where are you getting those figures from. They will transfer to sf and alliance before they get anywhere near he UUP

Page 6.

http://www.niassembly.gov.uk/globalassets/documents/raise/publications/2017-2022/2017/general/2317.pdf

15.4% of SDLP transfers to SF
23.5% of SDLP transfers to UUP
4.4% of SDLP transfers to DUP

41.1% of SF transfers to SDLP
0.7% of SF transfers to UUP
0.4% of SF transfers to DUP


So effectively 27.9% of SDLP transfer their first vote to one of the two main stream unionist party (>1 in 4).


It's clear that you don't understand the difference between To and From

-- edited Didn't see that you had already been corrected
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Angelo on February 09, 2021, 10:02:25 PM
Are there many marginal constituencies  for SF/SDLP to enter pacts and oust these bigots?

Upper Bann possibly East derry but any sniff of a nationalist pact would soon be challenged with a Unionist pact so Unionism would comfortably hold the seats
East Derry had a very low UUP plus Alliance  vote in 2019

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/ael.htm

Lagan Valley

https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/alv.htm

or South Antrim
https://www.ark.ac.uk/elections/asa.htm

 might be more fruitful

There's not really any difference between SDLP and Alliance though. That's just a fact of the matter, the SDLP stopped being a nationalist party a long time ago, if they were ever one in the first place.

The fact that the SDLP transfer more heavily to the UUP than they do to SF tells you all you need to know about their political outlook.

Where are you getting those figures from. They will transfer to sf and alliance before they get anywhere near he UUP

Page 6.

http://www.niassembly.gov.uk/globalassets/documents/raise/publications/2017-2022/2017/general/2317.pdf

15.4% of SDLP transfers to SF
23.5% of SDLP transfers to UUP
4.4% of SDLP transfers to DUP

41.1% of SF transfers to SDLP
0.7% of SF transfers to UUP
0.4% of SF transfers to DUP


So effectively 27.9% of SDLP transfer their first vote to one of the two main stream unionist party (>1 in 4).


It's clear that you don't understand the difference between To and From

-- edited Didn't see that you had already been corrected

I do.

The axis on the graph was not clearly defined. It was understandable that I asserted the SDLP would transfer heavily to unionism.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: trailer on February 09, 2021, 10:11:13 PM
Trailer and feckitt should be due a few apologies this instant  ;D ;D ;D

FACT!
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: RedHand88 on February 10, 2021, 07:53:22 AM
Had a bit of a nightmare there Angelo. It's pretty clear the y axis is TO and the x axis from FROM.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: marty34 on February 10, 2021, 08:06:45 AM
Will the TUV make much of an impact next time out?

They still seem to be a one-man band.  I don't think I've ever heard anyone else from the TUV on the airwaves.

Wouldn't it be ironic if a few DUP 'transferred' to the TUV?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on February 10, 2021, 08:29:03 AM
Jim is some craic. So if you don't like the result of Brexit you need to suck it up but if you don't like the NI protocol then the answer is that the councils should remove the staff. (Which tbh seems to be in effect what the DUP tried to do anyway). Any hypocrisy in there Jim lol.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: johnnycool on February 10, 2021, 09:14:39 AM
Jim is some craic. So if you don't like the result of Brexit you need to suck it up but if you don't like the NI protocol then the answer is that the councils should remove the staff. (Which tbh seems to be in effect what the DUP tried to do anyway). Any hypocrisy in there Jim lol.

Aye and all of a sudden this cross community consensus is a thing. Wasn't much of a thing when over half NI voted to stay in the EU and the DUP pushed for the hardest Brexit on offer and ended up with the protocol in place.

Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Angelo on February 10, 2021, 09:18:27 AM
Had a bit of a nightmare there Angelo. It's pretty clear the y axis is TO and the x axis from FROM.

It's not pretty clear at all.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on February 10, 2021, 09:25:09 AM
Jim is some craic. So if you don't like the result of Brexit you need to suck it up but if you don't like the NI protocol then the answer is that the councils should remove the staff. (Which tbh seems to be in effect what the DUP tried to do anyway). Any hypocrisy in there Jim lol.

Aye and all of a sudden this cross community consensus is a thing. Wasn't much of a thing when over half NI voted to stay in the EU and the DUP pushed for the hardest Brexit on offer and ended up with the protocol in place.

The hypocrisy of the "extreme" unionists seems to know no bounds. (I hate the term PUL - these people don't represent all protestants or all unionists though possibly all loyalists. It just lumps everyone into one.).
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: general_lee on February 10, 2021, 09:36:08 AM
f**k the lot of them. They were more than happy to have a hard border on this island (and are still calling for one) and didn’t give a f**k about businesses so long as they “reclaimed” their sovereignty and regained “control” of their borders. They didn’t give one f**k about how businesses would have to adapt or change or even struggle. They didn’t care about the GFA, in fact they all f**king opposed it, yet are now using it as an excuse to revoke the protocol!
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on February 10, 2021, 09:59:55 AM
You couldn't make it up. I do think they are finally being called out as not giving one f**k about the economy mind you. Milk the economy with RHI, expenses, Red Sky etc etc and then call out that they care about the economy lol. Yeah sure...

I don't think they care one jot about peace either.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: general_lee on February 10, 2021, 10:08:08 AM
More lorries attacked. More loyalist posters going up. After last week in east Belfast and the pathetic arrest on Ormeau the PSNI need to send a strong message that are serious about tackling these loyalist thugs
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: trailer on February 10, 2021, 10:33:28 AM
Had a bit of a nightmare there Angelo. It's pretty clear the y axis is TO and the x axis from FROM.

It's not pretty clear at all.

Maybe. But I don't know how they could have made it any clearer other than to explain it in plain English on the first page under a heading "Key Points". As the saying goes you can't teach stupid.

Begs the question if you're so wrong about this, then what else are you wrong about?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: BennyCake on February 10, 2021, 10:43:44 AM
Jim is some craic. So if you don't like the result of Brexit you need to suck it up but if you don't like the NI protocol then the answer is that the councils should remove the staff. (Which tbh seems to be in effect what the DUP tried to do anyway). Any hypocrisy in there Jim lol.

Aye and all of a sudden this cross community consensus is a thing. Wasn't much of a thing when over half NI voted to stay in the EU and the DUP pushed for the hardest Brexit on offer and ended up with the protocol in place.

That’s irrelevant. It was the UK total vote that counted.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Angelo on February 10, 2021, 10:58:28 AM
Had a bit of a nightmare there Angelo. It's pretty clear the y axis is TO and the x axis from FROM.

It's not pretty clear at all.

Maybe. But I don't know how they could have made it any clearer other than to explain it in plain English on the first page under a heading "Key Points". As the saying goes you can't teach stupid.

Begs the question if you're so wrong about this, then what else are you wrong about?

I'm always open to having my views challenged. The problem is people struggle to better me.

The fact that 10% of UUP transfers came from the SDLP is also still chilling.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: JimStynes on February 10, 2021, 11:29:50 AM
Had a bit of a nightmare there Angelo. It's pretty clear the y axis is TO and the x axis from FROM.

It's not pretty clear at all.

Maybe. But I don't know how they could have made it any clearer other than to explain it in plain English on the first page under a heading "Key Points". As the saying goes you can't teach stupid.

Begs the question if you're so wrong about this, then what else are you wrong about?

I'm always open to having my views challenged. The problem is people struggle to better me.

The fact that 10% of UUP transfers came from the SDLP is also still chilling.

Ffs you’re not wise.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: marty34 on February 10, 2021, 12:52:24 PM
More lorries attacked. More loyalist posters going up. After last week in east Belfast and the pathetic arrest on Ormeau the PSNI need to send a strong message that are serious about tackling these loyalist thugs

Was there more lorries attacked?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: RedHand88 on February 10, 2021, 01:03:59 PM
Saw a fella taking down one of those "no Irish sea border" stickers in Stranmillis the other day.  I thought,  good for you sir.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: general_lee on February 10, 2021, 01:15:10 PM
More lorries attacked. More loyalist posters going up. After last week in east Belfast and the pathetic arrest on Ormeau the PSNI need to send a strong message that are serious about tackling these loyalist thugs

Was there more lorries attacked?
Yes reports that loyalists have attacked lorries at M1 junction 11 Portadown. Two individuals in high vis dropping sandbags. Morgan McLernon lorry targeted
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: johnnycool on February 10, 2021, 01:36:24 PM
Jim is some craic. So if you don't like the result of Brexit you need to suck it up but if you don't like the NI protocol then the answer is that the councils should remove the staff. (Which tbh seems to be in effect what the DUP tried to do anyway). Any hypocrisy in there Jim lol.

Aye and all of a sudden this cross community consensus is a thing. Wasn't much of a thing when over half NI voted to stay in the EU and the DUP pushed for the hardest Brexit on offer and ended up with the protocol in place.

That’s irrelevant. It was the UK total vote that counted.

I get that and that's the DUP's party line on that as well but when the Brexit deal and the NI protocol were passed by a "stonking" majority in the HOC you then can't start to gurn about cross community consensus here in NI for something you initially said was OK then decided it was the worse thing ever even when local businesses are saying they're coming to terms with it.

The DUP dressed this up as an economic issue when all along it was the constitutional issue that was buggering them.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: marty34 on February 10, 2021, 02:25:40 PM
More lorries attacked. More loyalist posters going up. After last week in east Belfast and the pathetic arrest on Ormeau the PSNI need to send a strong message that are serious about tackling these loyalist thugs

Was there more lorries attacked?
Yes reports that loyalists have attacked lorries at M1 junction 11 Portadown. Two individuals in high vis dropping sandbags. Morgan McLernon lorry targeted

Scumbags - are they clueless?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: marty34 on February 10, 2021, 02:30:36 PM
Jim is some craic. So if you don't like the result of Brexit you need to suck it up but if you don't like the NI protocol then the answer is that the councils should remove the staff. (Which tbh seems to be in effect what the DUP tried to do anyway). Any hypocrisy in there Jim lol.

Aye and all of a sudden this cross community consensus is a thing. Wasn't much of a thing when over half NI voted to stay in the EU and the DUP pushed for the hardest Brexit on offer and ended up with the protocol in place.

That’s irrelevant. It was the UK total vote that counted.

I get that and that's the DUP's party line on that as well but when the Brexit deal and the NI protocol were passed by a "stonking" majority in the HOC you then can't start to gurn about cross community consensus here in NI for something you initially said was OK then decided it was the worse thing ever even when local businesses are saying they're coming to terms with it.

The DUP dressed this up as an economic issue when all along it was the constitutional issue that was buggering them.

Totally correct, this is what it was always about.  Foster said as much last week on The View...when pressed on it.

They couldn't give a toss about the economy - always about the flag waving etc.

Seems this past while that things are getting better for businesses  and industry etc. according to reports.  Some companies doing better because of it.

We should be hearing more from them.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: johnnycool on February 10, 2021, 02:56:33 PM
Jim is some craic. So if you don't like the result of Brexit you need to suck it up but if you don't like the NI protocol then the answer is that the councils should remove the staff. (Which tbh seems to be in effect what the DUP tried to do anyway). Any hypocrisy in there Jim lol.

Aye and all of a sudden this cross community consensus is a thing. Wasn't much of a thing when over half NI voted to stay in the EU and the DUP pushed for the hardest Brexit on offer and ended up with the protocol in place.

That’s irrelevant. It was the UK total vote that counted.

I get that and that's the DUP's party line on that as well but when the Brexit deal and the NI protocol were passed by a "stonking" majority in the HOC you then can't start to gurn about cross community consensus here in NI for something you initially said was OK then decided it was the worse thing ever even when local businesses are saying they're coming to terms with it.

The DUP dressed this up as an economic issue when all along it was the constitutional issue that was buggering them.

Totally correct, this is what it was always about.  Foster said as much last week on The View...when pressed on it.

They couldn't give a toss about the economy - always about the flag waving etc.

Seems this past while that things are getting better for businesses  and industry etc. according to reports. Some companies doing better because of it.

We should be hearing more from them.

Matthew O'Toole asking the DAERA stand in DUPer Minister what actions his department had taken to make the most of NI's ability to keep shipping seafood, lamb, cheese etc etc into the European market when the Scots and Welsh couldn't and all he got was bluster over issues getting goods from GB...

And they say the Shinners don't want NI to work.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: armaghniac on February 10, 2021, 04:41:18 PM
Matthew O'Toole asking the DAERA stand in DUPer Minister what actions his department had taken to make the most of NI's ability to keep shipping seafood, lamb, cheese etc etc into the European market when the Scots and Welsh couldn't and all he got was bluster over issues getting goods from GB...

And they say the Shinners don't want NI to work.

You have a Minister of Agriculture whose main concern is that shops be able to avoid local producers and ship in all their stuff from Britain. You couldn't make it up.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Rossfan on February 10, 2021, 05:05:30 PM
Logic and DUPUDA don't go together.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: pbat on February 10, 2021, 06:17:51 PM
Pat Catney MLA
@PatCatney
All picture, no sound for the DUP MLAs who are staging a ‘zoom-out’ of today’s TEO meeting.

How daft are they? Sitting watching the meeting so they know when to come back in as soon as southern TDs have left? Catch yourselves on


Above just shows what your dealing with.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: general_lee on February 10, 2021, 07:18:30 PM
Let them tear away. Won’t make any difference. They made their bed, they can now lie in it.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: pbat on February 10, 2021, 08:00:12 PM
Tony Connolly has just put a tread up outlining Maros Sefcovic's response to Michael Gove demands on the Protocol. Basically tells him to get stuffed. Will really drive the Dups nuts now. 
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: pbat on February 10, 2021, 08:02:57 PM
https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/letter_from_vp_sefcovic_to_cdl_rh_gove.pdf

Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: BennyCake on February 10, 2021, 08:20:04 PM
Matthew O'Toole asking the DAERA stand in DUPer Minister what actions his department had taken to make the most of NI's ability to keep shipping seafood, lamb, cheese etc etc into the European market when the Scots and Welsh couldn't and all he got was bluster over issues getting goods from GB...

And they say the Shinners don't want NI to work.

You have a Minister of Agriculture whose main concern is that shops be able to avoid local producers and ship in all their stuff from Britain. You couldn't make it up.

I could never understand why such foods as certain fruit and veg is imported, while it can be easily grown here.

If there’s going to be problems importing certain things, they should put money and effort into getting growers here to produce them.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: marty34 on February 10, 2021, 09:51:27 PM
Matthew O'Toole asking the DAERA stand in DUPer Minister what actions his department had taken to make the most of NI's ability to keep shipping seafood, lamb, cheese etc etc into the European market when the Scots and Welsh couldn't and all he got was bluster over issues getting goods from GB...

And they say the Shinners don't want NI to work.

You have a Minister of Agriculture whose main concern is that shops be able to avoid local producers and ship in all their stuff from Britain. You couldn't make it up.

I could never understand why such foods as certain fruit and veg is imported, while it can be easily grown here.

If there’s going to be problems importing certain things, they should put money and effort into getting growers here to produce them.

Even beef etc.  Why is it shipped in and beef here is shipped out?

Is that not more costly or is there too much beef here and it has to be exported?

Lidl seem to, according to their ads, source a lot of their stuff in Ireland.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 10, 2021, 11:31:51 PM
I dont think attacking lorries is related to this protocol? Surely not??

Was that poor fella from West Belfast not attacked by some random scumbags - as it could have been anyone/any vehicle?

Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: GJL on February 10, 2021, 11:38:31 PM
I dont think attacking lorries is related to this protocol? Surely not??

Was that poor fella from West Belfast not attacked by some random scumbags - as it could have been anyone/any vehicle?

More to it than that I fear...
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: pbat on February 11, 2021, 12:04:17 AM
I dont think attacking lorries is related to this protocol? Surely not??

Was that poor fella from West Belfast not attacked by some random scumbags - as it could have been anyone/any vehicle?

It is off course targeting Morgan and McLernon lorries near Portadown the other evening.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: NAG1 on February 11, 2021, 09:01:55 AM
I dont think attacking lorries is related to this protocol? Surely not??

Was that poor fella from West Belfast not attacked by some random scumbags - as it could have been anyone/any vehicle?

More to it than that I fear...

I've seen a lot of innuendo flying around about this incident, what is the story here?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2021, 09:51:44 AM
I dont think attacking lorries is related to this protocol? Surely not??

Was that poor fella from West Belfast not attacked by some random scumbags - as it could have been anyone/any vehicle?

More to it than that I fear...

I've seen a lot of innuendo flying around about this incident, what is the story here?

I'd be very concerned if this was the case, that someone was able to have information that the driver was a catholic and pick out his truck and carry that out.

I doubt very much that it is and Fra has been very unlucky to be the victim of trash little Larne rats who thought this would be 'some craic' to pile a load of bricks over a bridge, it has happened many times on the Westlink in Belfast..

These cases like the young lad Noah have gathered a lot of attention on social media and for me sometimes clouds the reality from what actually happened
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on February 11, 2021, 10:05:05 AM
What worries me is that surely surely someone saw something with regard to a bin full of rocks being wheeled to a bridge to do this. How can no one have seen it?

The Noah thing is bizarre. There definitely does look like there are things that the PSNI haven't been very professional with but like you say social media definitely clouding it too. It is definitely gaining some traction.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 11, 2021, 10:19:50 AM
Do the Cops not think the wheelie bin of bricks were driven to that spot as they couldnt have been wheeled to that particular spot? And again theres throwing a brick from a bridge and then theres emptying a wheelie bin of bricks from a bridge!?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: general_lee on February 11, 2021, 10:31:25 AM
Wise up MR2 I can get the odd yahoo spontaneously throwing a rock off the westlink but someone in the middle of nowhere taking a wheelie bin full of bricks in the dead of night  and aiming it at a lorry requires a wee bit of planning. I don’t think it was intentionally a sectarian attack (although probably an added bonus). There are other reports of it happening as well!

Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 11, 2021, 10:39:42 AM
Wise up MR2 I can get the odd yahoo spontaneously throwing a rock off the westlink but someone in the middle of nowhere taking a wheelie bin full of bricks in the dead of night  and aiming it at a lorry requires a wee bit of planning. I don’t think it was intentionally a sectarian attack (although probably an added bonus). There are other reports of it happening as well!



I'm not saying it wasn't planned, and there has been incidents like this before. I just said I doubt it was planned to attack a catholic or if it was part of the Sea border issues, as there is no reason/logic to damage trucks coming into NI, I could be completely wrong. 

I'm just saying it was unlucky for Fra to be caught with this, a really good GAA family from the West, and I wish him a speedy recover and no lasting damage, though he might lose the sight from his eye
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: general_lee on February 11, 2021, 10:45:45 AM
There isn’t much logic/reason to loyalism in general but it doesn’t stop them. I think the idea behind it is as a form of “protest”
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Windmill abu on February 11, 2021, 11:57:40 AM
There isn’t much logic/reason to loyalism my signature in general but it doesn’t stop them me. I think the idea behind it is as a form of “protest” "Jealousy"

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: general_lee on February 11, 2021, 01:13:57 PM
There isn’t much logic/reason to loyalism my signature in general but it doesn’t stop them me. I think the idea behind it is as a form of “protest” "Jealousy"

Fixed that for you.
Cheers 😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: tonto1888 on February 11, 2021, 01:26:35 PM
I dont think attacking lorries is related to this protocol? Surely not??

Was that poor fella from West Belfast not attacked by some random scumbags - as it could have been anyone/any vehicle?

It is off course targeting Morgan and McLernon lorries near Portadown the other evening.

Why would that be related to the protocol?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Feckitt on February 11, 2021, 07:01:48 PM
Cuntwatch
Today on BBC Radio Ulster Ian Paisley Jnr despite being corrected refused to pronounce Micheal Martin's name correctly.  At every opportunity Unionist politicians gleefully mispronounce Varadkar, and before this it was common to hear Unionist politicians childishly refer to Edna Kenny.
Why why why can the presenters not grow a pair and tell them to f**k off.  Such infantile disrespect is hard to stomach.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: restorepride on February 11, 2021, 07:05:06 PM
Cuntwatch
Today on BBC Radio Ulster Ian Paisley Jnr despite being corrected refused to pronounce Micheal Martin's name correctly.  At every opportunity Unionist politicians gleefully mispronounce Varadkar, and before this it was common to hear Unionist politicians childishly refer to Edna Kenny.
Why why why can the presenters not grow a pair and tell them to f**k off.  Such infantile disrespect is hard to stomach.
We need to keep calling it what it is - racism. 
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: J70 on February 11, 2021, 07:05:17 PM
Cuntwatch
Today on BBC Radio Ulster Ian Paisley Jnr despite being corrected refused to pronounce Micheal Martin's name correctly.  At every opportunity Unionist politicians gleefully mispronounce Varadkar, and before this it was common to hear Unionist politicians childishly refer to Edna Kenny.
Why why why can the presenters not grow a pair and tell them to f**k off.  Such infantile disrespect is hard to stomach.

When childish mispronunciations is all you have, your argument or position can't be very good.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: restorepride on February 11, 2021, 07:07:59 PM
Cuntwatch
Today on BBC Radio Ulster Ian Paisley Jnr despite being corrected refused to pronounce Micheal Martin's name correctly.  At every opportunity Unionist politicians gleefully mispronounce Varadkar, and before this it was common to hear Unionist politicians childishly refer to Edna Kenny.
Why why why can the presenters not grow a pair and tell them to f**k off.  Such infantile disrespect is hard to stomach.

When childish mispronunciations is all you have, your argument or position can't be very good.
We need to keep calling it what it is - racism.  Specifically, linguistic racism.  Gregory has a degree in it.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Feckitt on February 11, 2021, 07:15:27 PM
Cuntwatch
Today on BBC Radio Ulster Ian Paisley Jnr despite being corrected refused to pronounce Micheal Martin's name correctly.  At every opportunity Unionist politicians gleefully mispronounce Varadkar, and before this it was common to hear Unionist politicians childishly refer to Edna Kenny.
Why why why can the presenters not grow a pair and tell them to f**k off.  Such infantile disrespect is hard to stomach.

When childish mispronunciations is all you have, your argument or position can't be very good.

Not sure what you mean? I'm simply pointing out that I find it hard to believe a senior MP cannot pronounce the name of three consecutive Taoisigh.  Therefore it's deliberately disrespectful and deserves to be called out.
Have you ever in your life heard anyone being unable to pronounce Boris Johnson,  Theresa May or David Cameron?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: marty34 on February 11, 2021, 07:51:39 PM
Cuntwatch
Today on BBC Radio Ulster Ian Paisley Jnr despite being corrected refused to pronounce Micheal Martin's name correctly.  At every opportunity Unionist politicians gleefully mispronounce Varadkar, and before this it was common to hear Unionist politicians childishly refer to Edna Kenny.
Why why why can the presenters not grow a pair and tell them to f**k off.  Such infantile disrespect is hard to stomach.

When childish mispronunciations is all you have, your argument or position can't be very good.

Not sure what you mean? I'm simply pointing out that I find it hard to believe a senior MP cannot pronounce the name of three consecutive Taoisigh.  Therefore it's deliberately disrespectful and deserves to be called out.
Have you ever in your life heard anyone being unable to pronounce Boris Johnson,  Theresa May or David Cameron?

I think he's referring to Paisley's antics.
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Post by: marty34 on February 11, 2021, 07:55:17 PM
I heard BBC radio this evening discussing the threats at the ports etc.  Seems very shady.

Donaghy, the CE of the council and the DUP councillor was asked to come on the show but a no show.  That tells you something.

I hope there's an investigation but who would do it?

Would it have to be a vote at council?
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Post by: imtommygunn on February 11, 2021, 08:02:52 PM
It really needs to be investigated.
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Post by: Main Street on February 11, 2021, 08:06:56 PM
Cuntwatch
Today on BBC Radio Ulster Ian Paisley Jnr despite being corrected refused to pronounce Micheal Martin's name correctly.  At every opportunity Unionist politicians gleefully mispronounce Varadkar, and before this it was common to hear Unionist politicians childishly refer to Edna Kenny.
Why why why can the presenters not grow a pair and tell them to f**k off.  Such infantile disrespect is hard to stomach.

When childish mispronunciations is all you have, your argument or position can't be very good.

Not sure what you mean? I'm simply pointing out that I find it hard to believe a senior MP cannot pronounce the name of three consecutive Taoisigh.  Therefore it's deliberately disrespectful and deserves to be called out.
Have you ever in your life heard anyone being unable to pronounce Boris Johnson,  Theresa May or David Cameron?

I think he's referring to Paisley's antics.
He is referring to Paisley's antics, and that's coming from a county where they pronounce Bonner as Bone her
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: sensethetone on February 12, 2021, 07:59:22 AM
Cuntwatch
Today on BBC Radio Ulster Ian Paisley Jnr despite being corrected refused to pronounce Micheal Martin's name correctly.  At every opportunity Unionist politicians gleefully mispronounce Varadkar, and before this it was common to hear Unionist politicians childishly refer to Edna Kenny.
Why why why can the presenters not grow a pair and tell them to f**k off.  Such infantile disrespect is hard to stomach.

Stephen Nolan insists on incorrectly pronouncing Maroš Šefčovič. Same sows pigs.
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Post by: NAG1 on February 12, 2021, 08:31:26 AM
I heard BBC radio this evening discussing the threats at the ports etc.  Seems very shady.

Donaghy, the CE of the council and the DUP councillor was asked to come on the show but a no show.  That tells you something.

I hope there's an investigation but who would do it?

Would it have to be a vote at council?

While they are at it they should investigate the councils links to the DUP especially the person you refer too. The whole council is rotten, yes it is a DUP controlled area, however the employed staff arent meant to ensure that equality is adhered too at every level and not to be swayed by any party of which ever shade.
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Post by: Rossfan on February 12, 2021, 11:52:45 AM
The whole thing smells of a DUPUDA plot with active support of the top Employee?
Is there any legislation which allows a Council to be abolished and put under some form of direct rule.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: marty34 on February 12, 2021, 12:41:01 PM
The whole thing smells of a DUPUDA plot with active support of the top Employee?
Is there any legislation which allows a Council to be abolished and put under some form of direct rule.

Once of the councillors said when she was pressed further i.e. the threats, he said she mentioned the UDA.

This is unreal.
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Post by: screenexile on February 12, 2021, 03:16:26 PM
It's just brazen at this stage. . . f**king Kate Hoey talking about how maybe the Brits didn't know what they were voting for when it came to the protocol and there is an article title from her back in 2016 saying that "Brexit won't hurt Northern Ireland at all". The level of gaslighting from her and the DUP is unbelievable were it not unfolding right in front of their faces right now.

I'm not sure exactly where it is all going to go but I can't see the UK or EU dropping the Protocol so it looks like Loyalist paramilitaries are going to get involved because they're struggling to get a few Amazon parcels through!! How much does the Irish Sea Border really affect the Loyalist community??

Brexit is a bollix but we have an agreed system now and I think these things will sort themselves out over time. My own Company trade from North and South and while it's been a massive headache it looks like it is starting to settle down and we've got the necessary processes in place to move forward.
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Post by: sid waddell on February 12, 2021, 04:02:04 PM
It's just brazen at this stage. . . f**king Kate Hoey talking about how maybe the Brits didn't know what they were voting for when it came to the protocol
Another referendum, anybody?
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Post by: imtommygunn on February 12, 2021, 04:18:42 PM
It's just brazen at this stage. . . f**king Kate Hoey talking about how maybe the Brits didn't know what they were voting for when it came to the protocol and there is an article title from her back in 2016 saying that "Brexit won't hurt Northern Ireland at all". The level of gaslighting from her and the DUP is unbelievable were it not unfolding right in front of their faces right now.

I'm not sure exactly where it is all going to go but I can't see the UK or EU dropping the Protocol so it looks like Loyalist paramilitaries are going to get involved because they're struggling to get a few Amazon parcels through!! How much does the Irish Sea Border really affect the Loyalist community??

Brexit is a bollix but we have an agreed system now and I think these things will sort themselves out over time. My own Company trade from North and South and while it's been a massive headache it looks like it is starting to settle down and we've got the necessary processes in place to move forward.

Hoey is an absolute muppet. Sure did Gove and teh EU not come out more or less backing it now? I suspect it's here to stay. Boris doesn't care about us here anyway so a bit of stirring won't cut it with him.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: marty34 on February 12, 2021, 06:27:34 PM
It's just brazen at this stage. . . f**king Kate Hoey talking about how maybe the Brits didn't know what they were voting for when it came to the protocol and there is an article title from her back in 2016 saying that "Brexit won't hurt Northern Ireland at all". The level of gaslighting from her and the DUP is unbelievable were it not unfolding right in front of their faces right now.

I'm not sure exactly where it is all going to go but I can't see the UK or EU dropping the Protocol so it looks like Loyalist paramilitaries are going to get involved because they're struggling to get a few Amazon parcels through!! How much does the Irish Sea Border really affect the Loyalist community??

Brexit is a bollix but we have an agreed system now and I think these things will sort themselves out over time. My own Company trade from North and South and while it's been a massive headache it looks like it is starting to settle down and we've got the necessary processes in place to move forward.

Hoey is an absolute muppet. Sure did Gove and teh EU not come out more or less backing it now? I suspect it's here to stay. Boris doesn't care about us here anyway so a bit of stirring won't cut it with him.

Arlene on BBC saying Brussels, London and Dublin  must acknowledge the damage done by the protocol.

Wtf?

Blaming everybody else - even London.  They have made some mess of this. 

Does she really think that the 3 mentioned above give a f:%k about 600 k muppets in the north of Ireland, after 4 years of wrangling?

Do unionists really think it's going to be scrapped? If not, what's their Plan B - flags and banners etc?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: 93-DY-SAM on February 12, 2021, 11:11:42 PM

Arlene on BBC saying Brussels, London and Dublin  must acknowledge the damage done by the protocol.

Wtf?

Blaming everybody else - even London.  They have made some mess of this. 

Does she really think that the 3 mentioned above give a f:%k about 600 k muppets in the north of Ireland, after 4 years of wrangling?

Do unionists really think it's going to be scrapped? If not, what's their Plan B - flags and banners etc?

Plan B is rouse the rabble and some poor innocent by stander gets badly hurt or worse.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: restorepride on February 12, 2021, 11:16:31 PM

Arlene on BBC saying Brussels, London and Dublin  must acknowledge the damage done by the protocol.

Wtf?

Blaming everybody else - even London.  They have made some mess of this. 

Does she really think that the 3 mentioned above give a f:%k about 600 k muppets in the north of Ireland, after 4 years of wrangling?

Do unionists really think it's going to be scrapped? If not, what's their Plan B - flags and banners etc?

Plan B is rouse the rabble and some poor innocent by stander gets badly hurt or worse.
Exactly.  However, will not really work 50 years on.   They may have control of Larne but very little else, really. 
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on February 13, 2021, 10:02:32 PM
Speculation of them collapsing stormont.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 13, 2021, 10:50:05 PM
Speculation of them collapsing stormont.

Brilliant and Westminster should stop wages right away
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Post by: RedHand88 on February 13, 2021, 11:08:50 PM
Speculation of them collapsing stormont.

I hope they do. All the crap they spewed in 2017 about SF abandoning the people should be flung back at them in bucketloads.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: screenexile on February 14, 2021, 12:09:29 AM
Boris’ f**king burrow Jesus Christ!!
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: sensethetone on February 14, 2021, 08:55:10 AM
Thought there were to new measures to be put in place to stop Stormount getting took down again?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: tiempo on February 14, 2021, 08:58:58 AM
Boris’ f**king burrow Jesus Christ!!

Savage trolling that

The Tories don't need the 6co's any more, they can win elections in England alone due to the SNP stranglehold in Scotland

Also the changing demographic in the 6co is a ball ache for them, the road to de-coupling is well underway, the unionist loyalist ideology on its last legs and smelling of  piss
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: RedHand88 on February 14, 2021, 12:01:29 PM
How does the tunnel help with customs difficulties? Surely there will still be checks at either end of it? Has nobody pointed this out to them??
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on February 14, 2021, 12:19:42 PM
That also really confuses me. Do borders not count if they are underground lol.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2021, 12:20:36 PM
How does the tunnel help with customs difficulties? Surely there will still be checks at either end of it? Has nobody pointed this out to them??

Never going to be a tunnel as economically it makes no sense! We’d need to be mining gold or pumping oil for a tunnel to be constructed
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Rossfan on February 14, 2021, 12:23:19 PM
Is the bridge to Scotland off the agenda? ;D
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2021, 12:30:14 PM
Is the bridge to Scotland off the agenda? ;D

Would be closed 4 months of the year!!
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: johnnycool on February 14, 2021, 12:31:02 PM
Is the bridge to Scotland off the agenda? ;D

Fuckin hell, even the most dim wittest Duper won't fall for this tunnel bullshit from the Tories
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on February 14, 2021, 12:32:39 PM
I’m sure sammy might fall for it.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: marty34 on February 14, 2021, 12:41:15 PM
Probably tryi g to keep the DUPers quiet for a few weeks.
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Post by: pbat on February 14, 2021, 12:43:40 PM
Its complete nonsense. But playing along did I not read previous that one of the engineering reasons that the bridge wouldn't be feasible is because the Irish Sea between here and Scotland is so deep that after the war the Brits dumped tons on munitions in it. So they going to bore under that, good luck with that.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: BennyCake on February 14, 2021, 12:44:06 PM
This promise of a bridge by the Tories to unionists. Reminds me a bit like what a husband would say to the wife

“What? Eh? Yeah yeah, of course I love you”.

The only difference being the Unionists believe the Tories are sincere. The wife doesn’t.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: 6th sam on February 14, 2021, 01:24:57 PM
Dover to Calais tunnel was an enormous task between two well serviced ports between two of the largest economies in the world, and it’s UK’s gateway to Europe . It didn’t have the Specific construction challenges such as the dyke, munitions and weather. Not even Boris, a narcissist with an elevated view of his own importance could come up with it as a vanity project , it’s so unrealistic . He clearly is just using it to bluff unionists that he cares. If you had a choice between strengthening the link with DUP types at a cost of billions, or offloading them , what do you think Boris would choose ?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Orior on February 14, 2021, 01:35:56 PM
Dover to Calais tunnel was an enormous task between two well serviced ports between two of the largest economies in the world, and a UK’s gateway to Europe . Specific construction challenges such as the dyke, munitions and weather. Not even Boris, a narcissist with an elevated view of his own importance could come up with it as a vanity project , it’s so unrealistic . He clearly is just using it to bluff unionists that he cares. If you had a choice between strengthening the link with DUP types at a cost of billions, or offloading them , what do you think Boris would choose ?

Plus, two different guages.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Rossfan on February 14, 2021, 01:53:30 PM
The DUPUDA will be apoplectic if they hear that they use Irish guage railways in the 6 Cos.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Rossfan on February 14, 2021, 03:26:56 PM
Must be 1st April already
https://m.independent.ie/world-news/europe/britain/boris-burrow-tunnel-to-northern-ireland-expected-to-get-green-light-40089038.html

And is renegade Scotsman Gove now saying the EU will have to operate a border between the 6 and 26?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: marty34 on February 14, 2021, 03:38:48 PM
Must be 1st April already
https://m.independent.ie/world-news/europe/britain/boris-burrow-tunnel-to-northern-ireland-expected-to-get-green-light-40089038.html

And is renegade Scotsman Gove now saying the EU will have to operate a border between the 6 and 26?

How will that work?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on February 14, 2021, 03:41:32 PM
There sounds to be some legs on this but I would still be surprised if it’s not some kind of Tory con. It has to be. It doesn’t make any sense lol. About to be hit by a crunching recession so spend a fortune on something that will never recoup your outlay. Unless it’s like Donald getting mexico to pay for the wall lol.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 14, 2021, 04:00:59 PM
Will spend millions on plans and exploring its viability and by that time you’ll have a border poll
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Mayo Border on February 14, 2021, 06:00:40 PM
Let BAM Contractors have a go at pricing the job. They usually submit a low quote
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: restorepride on February 14, 2021, 10:22:27 PM
Let BAM Contractors have a go at pricing the job. They usually submit a low quote
You're digging a hole for yourself there!
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on February 22, 2021, 09:47:58 PM
Mid and east Antrim council have voted against holding an independent investigation into removing staff from the port checks.  >:(
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: bannside on February 22, 2021, 10:43:28 PM
Showing themselves up for what they are, a dirty hateful shower. Have got away with it for years and years. As if Mid Antrim (Ballymena) wasn't bad enough, they throw Ballyclare Carrick and Larne into the mix as well. This was a blatant political act carried out at the instigation of a bigoted council committee who thought they could act with impunity to attempt to bring NI ports to a standstill and force either UK govt or Europe to the negotiating table.

But it was far too predictable, and seen for the bullshit it was. DUP and their antics exposed yet again.



 
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 22, 2021, 10:49:38 PM
Showing themselves up for what they are, a dirty hateful shower. Have got away with it for years and years. As if Mid Antrim (Ballymena) wasn't bad enough, they throw Ballyclare Carrick and Larne into the mix as well. This was a blatant political act carried out at the instigation of a bigoted council committee who thought they could act with impunity to attempt to bring NI ports to a standstill and force either UK govt or Europe to the negotiating table.

But it was far too predictable, and seen for the bullshit it was. DUP and their antics exposed yet again.

It will only increase their vote in those areas! All calculated and no backlash from the voters because what’s the alternative?

Creating an us against everyone works. Tribal politics is here to stay
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Silver hill on February 22, 2021, 11:22:47 PM
Showing themselves up for what they are, a dirty hateful shower. Have got away with it for years and years. As if Mid Antrim (Ballymena) wasn't bad enough, they throw Ballyclare Carrick and Larne into the mix as well. This was a blatant political act carried out at the instigation of a bigoted council committee who thought they could act with impunity to attempt to bring NI ports to a standstill and force either UK govt or Europe to the negotiating table.

But it was far too predictable, and seen for the bullshit it was. DUP and their antics exposed yet again.

DUP must have something on thon wing nut Donaghy, she has a rap sheet the length of your arm now. Private sector- she’d have fallen on her own sword ages ago.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: bannside on February 23, 2021, 08:58:02 AM
It's predictable that loyalism in general will revert to type. How long before there is another Ulster day, Workers strike, Block the roads or the ports, all policies of the past.

Let's find a way to rouse the rabble whilst sitting at the desk waiting on the big fat monthly pay going into their account for sitting doing sweet fanny all.

Only difference this time is too many are a step ahead, just waiting on these antics, and Europe has been well advised not to pay any heed to these netheanderals.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: tiempo on February 23, 2021, 10:02:41 AM
If you offered the DUP/OO a 3 county Protestant state for a Protestant people complete with minority taigs to trample on they'd take it

Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: bogball88 on February 23, 2021, 12:37:46 PM
Showing themselves up for what they are, a dirty hateful shower. Have got away with it for years and years. As if Mid Antrim (Ballymena) wasn't bad enough, they throw Ballyclare Carrick and Larne into the mix as well. This was a blatant political act carried out at the instigation of a bigoted council committee who thought they could act with impunity to attempt to bring NI ports to a standstill and force either UK govt or Europe to the negotiating table.

But it was far too predictable, and seen for the bullshit it was. DUP and their antics exposed yet again.

DUP must have something on thon wing nut Donaghy, she has a rap sheet the length of your arm now. Private sector- she’d have fallen on her own sword ages ago.
Coalisland's finest  ::)
A quick scan of her twitter could suggest there is something else going on there....
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: JohnDenver on February 23, 2021, 12:45:09 PM
Showing themselves up for what they are, a dirty hateful shower. Have got away with it for years and years. As if Mid Antrim (Ballymena) wasn't bad enough, they throw Ballyclare Carrick and Larne into the mix as well. This was a blatant political act carried out at the instigation of a bigoted council committee who thought they could act with impunity to attempt to bring NI ports to a standstill and force either UK govt or Europe to the negotiating table.

But it was far too predictable, and seen for the bullshit it was. DUP and their antics exposed yet again.

DUP must have something on thon wing nut Donaghy, she has a rap sheet the length of your arm now. Private sector- she’d have fallen on her own sword ages ago.
Coalisland's finest  ::)
A quick scan of her twitter could suggest there is something else going on there....

What do you mean?

https://twitter.com/mea_bc/status/1233051927354773504/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/mea_bc/status/1233051927354773504/photo/1)
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Rossfan on February 25, 2021, 05:17:09 PM
I see the DUP wing (Foster and Dodds) met the UDA wing today.
Probably trying to get them to stir up trouble?
She got fairly put in her box by the EU/ Brits yesterday.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: yellowcard on February 25, 2021, 05:57:06 PM
In what normal functioning society would the head of a localised government meet with the representatives of illegal paramilitary organisations to discuss an international legal agreement.

It will be interesting to see the real outrage from Stephen Nolan in the coming days instead of the often feigned outrage on more trivial matters.
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Post by: imtommygunn on February 26, 2021, 07:31:23 AM
Sammy Wilson being a muppet again with tweets about robin swann. The man is barely a functional adult.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2021, 10:22:44 AM
Sammy Wilson being a muppet again with tweets about robin swann. The man is barely a functional adult.

I'm not on twitter nor bother with it only for results on games, but surely these things should be banned from political parties, they just make cnuts of themselves
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on February 26, 2021, 10:24:27 AM
They should have a bit of training but in some cases you're not dealing with clever people there.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Silver hill on February 26, 2021, 11:47:27 AM
Showing themselves up for what they are, a dirty hateful shower. Have got away with it for years and years. As if Mid Antrim (Ballymena) wasn't bad enough, they throw Ballyclare Carrick and Larne into the mix as well. This was a blatant political act carried out at the instigation of a bigoted council committee who thought they could act with impunity to attempt to bring NI ports to a standstill and force either UK govt or Europe to the negotiating table.

But it was far too predictable, and seen for the bullshit it was. DUP and their antics exposed yet again.

DUP must have something on thon wing nut Donaghy, she has a rap sheet the length of your arm now. Private sector- she’d have fallen on her own sword ages ago.
Coalisland's finest  ::)
A quick scan of her twitter could suggest there is something else going on there....

What do you mean?

https://twitter.com/mea_bc/status/1233051927354773504/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/mea_bc/status/1233051927354773504/photo/1)

The chief exec of a local council should have low profile, and operate by stealth in the background. Donaghy is the exact opposite. She had a very public spat with the Irish news and BBC last year, she was in bother over a table that her council took at a DUP fundraiser (flouting all the governance and guidance on impartiality), her husband was in court a few years back for knocking the head off her own father in a disagreement over his will. I’ve had the misfortune to attend a few events in ballymena that she has been at and the fawning over Ian Og and co was embarrassing to witness first hand. It’s as if she feels the need to be more unionist than they are. The ultimate castle catholic. So, to answer your question, I have no doubt that her action, to withdraw the staff in Larne, was completely politically motivated and at the behest of Ian Og and his cronies in little England.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Applesisapples on February 26, 2021, 11:55:40 AM
It's predictable that loyalism in general will revert to type. How long before there is another Ulster day, Workers strike, Block the roads or the ports, all policies of the past.

Let's find a way to rouse the rabble whilst sitting at the desk waiting on the big fat monthly pay going into their account for sitting doing sweet fanny all.

Only difference this time is too many are a step ahead, just waiting on these antics, and Europe has been well advised not to pay any heed to these netheanderals.
The demographic has moved on, they are now a minority and won't be able to pull the same strokes they did in the 70's and 80's.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: yellowcard on February 26, 2021, 01:18:14 PM
Sammy Wilson being a muppet again with tweets about robin swann. The man is barely a functional adult.

Deflection tactics from the DUP, it will grab headlines but no right thinking person takes Sammy Wilson seriously anyway.

The real story is how the First Minister, a Lord and an MP met with representatives of an unelected illegal paramilitary organisation to discuss their views on a legally binding international agreement. It beggars belief. I'm just wondering whether Jim Allister or Steve Aiken were on the Nolan show this morning. If this was a Republican they would be apoplectic with rage and Nolan would be miiking the story for days with his cronies. 
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on February 26, 2021, 02:32:26 PM
They've been at that for weeks now in terms of the sea border.

I honestly believe that party looks to those paramilitaries for guidance and are more or less led by them so there is some irony when they call SF terrorists.

Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: RedHand88 on February 26, 2021, 02:36:56 PM
Sammy Wilson being a muppet again with tweets about robin swann. The man is barely a functional adult.

Deflection tactics from the DUP, it will grab headlines but no right thinking person takes Sammy Wilson seriously anyway.

The real story is how the First Minister, a Lord and an MP met with representatives of an unelected illegal paramilitary organisation to discuss their views on a legally binding international agreement. It beggars belief. I'm just wondering whether Jim Allister or Steve Aiken were on the Nolan show this morning. If this was a Republican they would be apoplectic with rage and Nolan would be miiking the story for days with his cronies.

The loyalists forum or whatever they are called are a legal organisation believe it or not. The problem is the members of it and the illegal organisations they are a part of.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: tonto1888 on February 26, 2021, 05:44:34 PM
DUP taking their ball home now

https://twitter.com/DavidYoungPA/status/1365349007711731722?s=20
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: RedHand88 on February 26, 2021, 05:47:04 PM
DUP taking their ball home now

https://twitter.com/DavidYoungPA/status/1365349007711731722?s=20

F*** me, who do these people think they are?!
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: bannside on February 26, 2021, 06:06:04 PM
Rats in a corner....
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Post by: imtommygunn on February 26, 2021, 06:09:36 PM
The army are coming if this kind of shit happens.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Rossfan on February 26, 2021, 07:19:13 PM
Time for SF, SDLP and Alliance to walk out of Stormont.
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Post by: yellowcard on February 26, 2021, 07:47:12 PM
Time for SF, SDLP and Alliance to walk out of Stormont.

Tactically that would not be a good move though. The DUP and Unionism in general is in a corner and that would give them a scapegoat to blame. Arlene Foster is a lame duck leader who can no longer bring her party with her and as a consequence has been led by the hand by Loyalists and the Orange Order for some time now. Those organisations are devoid of any strategic thinking bar ‘no surrender’ though and have lessened any attractiveness of Unionism to the centre ground. They are like the old Leeds Utd team of the 70s, no one likes us but we don’t care. Insular and backward thinking they’d rather the little short term victory over the bigger economic picture and that has been their downfall since the creation of the state, a constant need to lord it over the other side.

I can’t help but think that were it not for the threat of a Scottish Indy referendum then theBritish government would be more eager to cast the north adrift but for the time being I don’t see a border poll.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: trailer on February 26, 2021, 07:47:31 PM
Time for SF, SDLP and Alliance to walk out of Stormont.

In the middle of a pandemic?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: armaghniac on February 26, 2021, 07:52:05 PM
Time for SF, SDLP and Alliance to walk out of Stormont.

That is the last thing they should do. They should convene and call on the minister to do his job.
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Post by: imtommygunn on February 26, 2021, 08:12:47 PM
Exactly. The uup should be going against them too. No respect for law as well as democracy. The true colours, not that we didn’t know them, are really coming out here.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: balladmaker on February 26, 2021, 08:15:10 PM
Time for SF, SDLP and Alliance to walk out of Stormont.

Tactically that would not be a good move though. The DUP and Unionism in general is in a corner and that would give them a scapegoat to blame. Arlene Foster is a lame duck leader who can no longer bring her party with her and as a consequence has been led by the hand by Loyalists and the Orange Order for some time now. Those organisations are devoid of any strategic thinking bar ‘no surrender’ though and have lessened any attractiveness of Unionism to the centre ground. They are like the old Leeds Utd team of the 70s, no one likes us but we don’t care. Insular and backward thinking they’d rather the little short term victory over the bigger economic picture and that has been their downfall since the creation of the state, a constant need to lord it over the other side.

I can’t help but think that were it not for the threat of a Scottish Indy referendum then theBritish government would be more eager to cast the north adrift but for the time being I don’t see a border poll.

If I was Boris, I'd be on the phone to Arlene, Nigel, Ian Og etc. asking them what was their preferred date for the border poll ... 2021 or early 2022!
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: APM on February 26, 2021, 08:24:34 PM
Fascinating that they have once again hitched their wagon to the ERG who would betray them in an instant.  They are being tactical when they need a strategy.  They are looking at their feet, step-by-step, to make sure they don't dirty their shoes; but they aren't lifting the head to see where the road is taking them. 

The road they are on will only take them in one direction and it is the last place on earth they want to be, yet on they go regardless.

This has been their entire approach throughout the Brexit process and everyone else can see where it has taken them and the ultimate outcome of this beligerance.  Somehow, they are blind to it.  It really is unbelievable. 
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Main Street on February 26, 2021, 08:26:05 PM
 Never shy to get  fully stuck into a  Unionist supremacy orgy, Ruth in the Newsletter

'Unionists are in a stronger position than they seem to realise.
They have the self-respect that goes with occupying the moral high ground.
Unlike nationalists, almost none of them ever vote for murderers and they’re not going to support them now.'


https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/opinion/columnists/ruth-dudley-edwards-boris-johnson-must-re-discover-his-moral-core-to-solve-the-irish-sea-border-problem-3143981 (https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/opinion/columnists/ruth-dudley-edwards-boris-johnson-must-re-discover-his-moral-core-to-solve-the-irish-sea-border-problem-3143981)
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: armaghniac on February 26, 2021, 08:29:53 PM
I see from a Nicola Mallon tweet that they have called an emergency meeting of the Executive, probably Alliance and SDLP called this, it is wise for SF to keep a low profile while the DUP are doing their work for them.
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Post by: balladmaker on February 26, 2021, 08:32:50 PM
Sinn Fein should keep the heads down.  We're watching unionism self-destructing, let them get on with it.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: trailer on February 26, 2021, 08:44:16 PM
I see from a Nicola Mallon tweet that they have called an emergency meeting of the Executive, probably Alliance and SDLP called this, it is wise for SF to keep a low profile while the DUP are doing their work for them.

This effects us all. SF should be calling this shit out and leading from the front as the largest Nationalist party.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on February 26, 2021, 08:47:53 PM
Sinn Fein should keep the heads down.  We're watching unionism self-destructing, let them get on with it.

Where do the uup sit on it?

I would rather the sdlp and alliance called them out than sf and sf kept the head down.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Hereiam on February 26, 2021, 09:07:37 PM
DUP are pushing for the protocol to become a green & orange issue, it's the only way they can keep their support. SDLP & SF need to be very careful what they say. They need to Keep it along the line that this is the mess the DUP brought and we need to provide all businesses with whatever help they need to minimise the damage.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2021, 10:00:19 PM
The argument should be Boris agreed to this. And leave it at that
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: tiempo on February 26, 2021, 10:33:13 PM
No chance SF walk out of Stormont at this rate - DUP tour de force thus far, a century of bigotry flowing from the cess pit. Political equivalent of Celtic doing 50 in a row
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: yellowcard on February 26, 2021, 10:54:10 PM
I agree that SF would be advised to keep the heads down as they have largely done throughout Brexit and let Alliance and SDLP hold the DUP to account. Unionism and loyalism desperately needs an enemy in the form of SF or the Irish government to deflect from their own ineptitude.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: seafoid on February 28, 2021, 07:50:40 PM
The argument should be Boris agreed to this. And leave it at that
They don't like to admit that the UK prime minister betrayed them
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Main Street on February 28, 2021, 09:36:29 PM
The argument should be Boris agreed to this. And leave it at that
They don't like to admit that the UK prime minister betrayed them
Au contraire, the DUP feed on betrayal and  being betrayed by the PM Johnson is as good as it gets for an Ulster Unionist. And that's whythis betrayal is being screamed from the  flag tops. And in times of no active betrayal, the intrepid devout Unionist will take the sack down from his back and go though  all the past betrayals one by one, just to freshen up the feeling.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Snapchap on March 01, 2021, 09:50:54 AM
Time for SF, SDLP and Alliance to walk out of Stormont.

The last time SF walked out of Stormont as a result of DUP behaviour, every opportunistic FFG toerag in the Dáil absolved the DUP of any and all responsibility in their rush to pin it all on SF. Wouldn't they just love the opportunity to do so again.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: johnnycool on March 01, 2021, 10:52:22 AM
The argument should be Boris agreed to this. And leave it at that
They don't like to admit that the UK prime minister betrayed them
Au contraire, the DUP feed on betrayal and  being betrayed by the PM Johnson is as good as it gets for an Ulster Unionist. And that's whythis betrayal is being screamed from the  flag tops. And in times of no active betrayal, the intrepid devout Unionist will take the sack down from his back and go though  all the past betrayals one by one, just to freshen up the feeling.

When Ian Og was welling up telling Boris to be the unionist they need him to be he was near in tears (he's had a bit of practice since the last time).

They know they've fúcked up and need their bogeyman to blame.

Shinners and the Irish Gov should keep their powder dry on this one.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on March 01, 2021, 11:38:36 AM
Yeah but it’s not a small f**k up. It is monumental. No other party has ever done as much to expedite a United ireland as they have here.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 01, 2021, 11:52:26 AM
Stormont has one life left.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: johnnycool on March 01, 2021, 12:34:31 PM
Stormont has one life left.

Indeed but Unionists would be happy with direct rule from London if it does fall.

It needs to be made clear that in the absence of Stormont, NI would be oversaw by Joint ministerial bodies containing civil servants from Dublin and London.
That would make unionism think twice about bringing it down.

Yeah but it’s not a small f**k up. It is monumental. No other party has ever done as much to expedite a United ireland as they have here.

And that is the right way to do it.

If Boris had a set of balls he would have indeed called up Arlene and told her to pull in the nut jobs or he'd be setting the date for the border poll.
The 2021 census is going to be interesting.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on March 01, 2021, 01:22:31 PM
Stormont has one life left.

Indeed but Unionists would be happy with direct rule from London if it does fall.

It needs to be made clear that in the absence of Stormont, NI would be oversaw by Joint ministerial bodies containing civil servants from Dublin and London.
That would make unionism think twice about bringing it down.

Yeah but it’s not a small f**k up. It is monumental. No other party has ever done as much to expedite a United ireland as they have here.

And that is the right way to do it.

If Boris had a set of balls he would have indeed called up Arlene and told her to pull in the nut jobs or he'd be setting the date for the border poll.
The 2021 census is going to be interesting.

The next census will be very interesting. When results are in at the end of the year everyone will be going straight to the community background figures.
I will expect something along the lines 46% Catholic community background 43% Protestant community background.
We will then here all the nonsense of the day such as yeah but the others are all lapsed protestants - if that's the case they would still be from a Protestant community background.  :o
At the last census they decided to muddy the waters with Irish, British and n.irish. with literally everyone claiming n.irish for themselves ;D.
Expect Futher attempts to fog the results by comparing British to Irish passports although post Brexit that may now be a prob for unionism. I wouldn't be surprised if they add do you watch Corrie or fair city to get a win ;D
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on March 01, 2021, 01:24:31 PM
Stormont has one life left.

Indeed but Unionists would be happy with direct rule from London if it does fall.

It needs to be made clear that in the absence of Stormont, NI would be oversaw by Joint ministerial bodies containing civil servants from Dublin and London.
That would make unionism think twice about bringing it down.

Yeah but it’s not a small f**k up. It is monumental. No other party has ever done as much to expedite a United ireland as they have here.

And that is the right way to do it.

If Boris had a set of balls he would have indeed called up Arlene and told her to pull in the nut jobs or he'd be setting the date for the border poll.
The 2021 census is going to be interesting.

Direct rule would surely equal sea border though?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: sensethetone on March 01, 2021, 02:02:54 PM
Stormont has one life left.

Indeed but Unionists would be happy with direct rule from London if it does fall.

It needs to be made clear that in the absence of Stormont, NI would be oversaw by Joint ministerial bodies containing civil servants from Dublin and London.
That would make unionism think twice about bringing it down.

Yeah but it’s not a small f**k up. It is monumental. No other party has ever done as much to expedite a United ireland as they have here.

And that is the right way to do it.

If Boris had a set of balls he would have indeed called up Arlene and told her to pull in the nut jobs or he'd be setting the date for the border poll.
The 2021 census is going to be interesting.

Direct rule would surely equal sea border though?

I would have thought so. Whilst Stormount was last down direct rule implemented or at least got the ball rolling towards marriage rights equality and abortion rights. Stuff like that sort of kept DUPUDA and SF hands cleaner than having to sort between them and not really having to deal with the public opinions.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: yellowcard on March 01, 2021, 02:09:52 PM
Stormont has one life left.

Indeed but Unionists would be happy with direct rule from London if it does fall.

It needs to be made clear that in the absence of Stormont, NI would be oversaw by Joint ministerial bodies containing civil servants from Dublin and London.
That would make unionism think twice about bringing it down.

Yeah but it’s not a small f**k up. It is monumental. No other party has ever done as much to expedite a United ireland as they have here.

And that is the right way to do it.

If Boris had a set of balls he would have indeed called up Arlene and told her to pull in the nut jobs or he'd be setting the date for the border poll.
The 2021 census is going to be interesting.

Its got nothing to do with having a set of balls (we already know that Johnson is a gambler anyway), he can't do that whilst the threat of Scotland breaking off lingers. A border poll is most likely 5-10 years away but I'd be fairly certain that there is a growing cohort of the British establishment who are quietly supportive of it when the time is right. It is more important for Irish nationalism to call for a poll when it can be won than just simply calling for a poll. Now is the time when the preparation work should be done. 
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on March 01, 2021, 02:11:21 PM
Stormont has one life left.

Indeed but Unionists would be happy with direct rule from London if it does fall.

It needs to be made clear that in the absence of Stormont, NI would be oversaw by Joint ministerial bodies containing civil servants from Dublin and London.
That would make unionism think twice about bringing it down.

Yeah but it’s not a small f**k up. It is monumental. No other party has ever done as much to expedite a United ireland as they have here.

And that is the right way to do it.

If Boris had a set of balls he would have indeed called up Arlene and told her to pull in the nut jobs or he'd be setting the date for the border poll.
The 2021 census is going to be interesting.

Direct rule would surely equal sea border though?

I would have thought so. Whilst Stormount was last down direct rule implemented or at least got the ball rolling towards marriage rights equality and abortion rights. Stuff like that sort of kept DUPUDA and SF hands cleaner than having to sort between them and not really having to deal with the public opinions.

Based on that then I don’t think they would want to bring down stormont. Their only hope on getting the sea border removed is to retain stormont I would have thought.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: general_lee on March 01, 2021, 02:18:27 PM
It is more important for Irish nationalism to call for a poll when it can be won than just simply calling for a poll. Now is the time when the preparation work should be done.
While I agree with the latter part, the only way to keep it in the pubic conscious is to continue calling for it. The more it is in the public eye the better. Make hay and all that
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: themac_23 on March 01, 2021, 02:19:44 PM
Stormout is a complete shambles, I genuinely would rather have boris calling the shots than the clowns up there. Honestly we will never get anywhere with how it’s set up. Our vote should be either united ireland or home rule. Honestly so sick of the green and orange politics, one says black the other says white and as much as we complain it will always be the same here. Needs ripped up 
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: red hander on March 01, 2021, 02:33:57 PM
The collapse of Stormont in the centenary of the putrid shithole statelet would be absolutely delicious. Let the stupid DUP assholes do it. Will finally put that white elephant with its big statue of a terrorist gunrunner out of its misery for good.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: pbat on March 01, 2021, 02:49:21 PM
Stormout is a complete shambles, I genuinely would rather have boris calling the shots than the clowns up there. Honestly we will never get anywhere with how it’s set up. Our vote should be either united ireland or home rule. Honestly so sick of the green and orange politics, one says black the other says white and as much as we complain it will always be the same here. Needs ripped up

I believe there had of been direct rules here projects such as the Warrenpoint/Omeath bridge would be completed by now. The cost in budgetary terms would have looked minimal to a UK civil service and been green lighted. It became political when it went to Sammy's desk. 
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: johnnycool on March 01, 2021, 02:58:59 PM
Stormont has one life left.

Indeed but Unionists would be happy with direct rule from London if it does fall.

It needs to be made clear that in the absence of Stormont, NI would be oversaw by Joint ministerial bodies containing civil servants from Dublin and London.
That would make unionism think twice about bringing it down.

Yeah but it’s not a small f**k up. It is monumental. No other party has ever done as much to expedite a United ireland as they have here.

And that is the right way to do it.

If Boris had a set of balls he would have indeed called up Arlene and told her to pull in the nut jobs or he'd be setting the date for the border poll.
The 2021 census is going to be interesting.

Direct rule would surely equal sea border though?

Almost definitely but then the DUP could say they didn't implement it..

A bit like the shinners and the austerity budget forced in by Whitehall.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: yellowcard on March 01, 2021, 03:43:13 PM
It is more important for Irish nationalism to call for a poll when it can be won than just simply calling for a poll. Now is the time when the preparation work should be done.
While I agree with the latter part, the only way to keep it in the pubic conscious is to continue calling for it. The more it is in the public eye the better. Make hay and all that

100%.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on March 01, 2021, 03:48:36 PM
Stormont has one life left.

Indeed but Unionists would be happy with direct rule from London if it does fall.

It needs to be made clear that in the absence of Stormont, NI would be oversaw by Joint ministerial bodies containing civil servants from Dublin and London.
That would make unionism think twice about bringing it down.

Yeah but it’s not a small f**k up. It is monumental. No other party has ever done as much to expedite a United ireland as they have here.

And that is the right way to do it.

If Boris had a set of balls he would have indeed called up Arlene and told her to pull in the nut jobs or he'd be setting the date for the border poll.
The 2021 census is going to be interesting.

Direct rule would surely equal sea border though?

Almost definitely but then the DUP could say they didn't implement it..

A bit like the shinners and the austerity budget forced in by Whitehall.

I think this is one thing they can’t afford to do that on.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: trailer on March 01, 2021, 04:51:31 PM
It is more important for Irish nationalism to call for a poll when it can be won than just simply calling for a poll. Now is the time when the preparation work should be done.
While I agree with the latter part, the only way to keep it in the pubic conscious is to continue calling for it. The more it is in the public eye the better. Make hay and all that

I think that actually doesn't help. SF seem to be calling for a border poll every other week. It's got to the point that if Arlene sneezes, SF ask for a border poll. I want a border poll but I certainly don't want one called in the next few years as it is unwinnable. I'd rather a mature conversation around what a New Ireland would look like took place with a view to a poll in circa 7-10 years.

Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: armaghniac on March 01, 2021, 04:59:43 PM
It is more important for Irish nationalism to call for a poll when it can be won than just simply calling for a poll. Now is the time when the preparation work should be done.
While I agree with the latter part, the only way to keep it in the pubic conscious is to continue calling for it. The more it is in the public eye the better. Make hay and all that

I think that actually doesn't help. SF seem to be calling for a border poll every other week. It's got to the point that if Arlene sneezes, SF ask for a border poll. I want a border poll but I certainly don't want one called in the next few years as it is unwinnable. I'd rather a mature conversation around what a New Ireland would look like took place with a view to a poll in circa 7-10 years.

SF call for a poll, but do not put in the grunt work to ensure that it would pass.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: tiempo on March 01, 2021, 05:25:52 PM
It is more important for Irish nationalism to call for a poll when it can be won than just simply calling for a poll. Now is the time when the preparation work should be done.
While I agree with the latter part, the only way to keep it in the pubic conscious is to continue calling for it. The more it is in the public eye the better. Make hay and all that

I think that actually doesn't help. SF seem to be calling for a border poll every other week. It's got to the point that if Arlene sneezes, SF ask for a border poll. I want a border poll but I certainly don't want one called in the next few years as it is unwinnable. I'd rather a mature conversation around what a New Ireland would look like took place with a view to a poll in circa 7-10 years.

SF call for a poll, but do not put in the grunt work to ensure that it would pass.

Working tirelessly from within to undermine the Frankenstein statelet and ensure NI doesn't work, while elevating itself to the largest party on the Island, "powersharing" with the vomit inducing DUP and at the same time in opposition to the equally corrupt FF/FG... I'd say no-one has done more heavy lifting or grunt work and no-one is more prepared or capable of getting it over the line. SF has the advantage of being a revolutionary party that is adept at facing challenges head on and adapting to change, the other 3, would they be fit to change a lightbulb between them without some sort of calamity?

We're facing a decade of change, yes one of SF latest mantra, but change is inevitable and the 3 parties facing SF are only interested in the status quo, by my estimation the electorate are well ahead of the politicians of those 3 vassal parties. The trio are a busted flush, standing on the threshold of another trembling world some might say.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: armaghniac on March 01, 2021, 05:41:19 PM
Working tirelessly from within to undermine the Frankenstein statelet and ensure NI doesn't work, while elevating itself to the largest party on the Island, "powersharing" with the vomit inducing DUP and at the same time in opposition to the equally corrupt FF/FG... I'd say no-one has done more heavy lifting or grunt work and no-one is more prepared or capable of getting it over the line. SF has the advantage of being a revolutionary party that is adept at facing challenges head on and adapting to change, the other 3, would they be fit to change a lightbulb between them without some sort of calamity?

We're facing a decade of change, yes one of SF latest mantra, but change is inevitable and the 3 parties facing SF are only interested in the status quo, by my estimation the electorate are well ahead of the politicians of those 3 vassal parties. The trio are a busted flush, standing on the threshold of another trembling world some might say.

Very good at demolition, not so much at building anew.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Orior on March 01, 2021, 09:10:33 PM
I will fight any southern Ireland GAA man who says he does not want a unitied Ireland.

Any time, any place.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on March 01, 2021, 09:26:22 PM
Shit just got real
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: trailer on March 01, 2021, 09:36:25 PM
Like it or not any United Ireland will have a number of Unionists. We'll have to bring them with us and they'll have to be included. I don't think that if we undermine "the Frankenstein statelet" will be beneficial in the long run. Any New Ireland needs to be built on consensus across the board, not just what revolutionary SF want.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: johnnycool on March 01, 2021, 09:41:58 PM
Shit just got real

How so?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: tiempo on March 01, 2021, 10:24:52 PM
Like it or not any United Ireland will have a number of Unionists. We'll have to bring them with us and they'll have to be included. I don't think that if we undermine "the Frankenstein statelet" will be beneficial in the long run. Any New Ireland needs to be built on consensus across the board, not just what revolutionary SF want.

The Frankenstein State is couped, SF started the undermining process DUP are kingpins now, in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king. Ironically revolutionary SF want a shared Ireland/island with parity of esteem and the principle of consent. Its not really that revolutionary these days all told, and yet they have to fight Dublin London and Belfast every inch of the way, almost as if the establishment in those 3 parliaments have an issue with those ideals.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Main Street on March 01, 2021, 11:11:31 PM
I will fight any southern Ireland GAA man who says he does not want a unitied Ireland.

Any time, any place.
Being born into freedom, even if it was just a conservative oppressive piss poor Irish society ,was something to cherish. I'd  even take living and growing up in Cavan before any place, high or low, in the 6 counties.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2021, 11:14:17 PM
I will fight any southern Ireland GAA man who says he does not want a unitied Ireland.

Any time, any place.
Being born into freedom, even if it was just a conservative oppressive piss poor Irish society ,was something to cherish. I'd  even take living and growing up in Cavan before any place, high or low, in the 6 counties.

I know, he chains leave serious bruises on the ankles, freedom of the mind is all you need!
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Main Street on March 01, 2021, 11:16:36 PM
I will fight any southern Ireland GAA man who says he does not want a unitied Ireland.

Any time, any place.
Being born into freedom, even if it was just a conservative oppressive piss poor Irish society ,was something to cherish. I'd  even take living and growing up in Cavan before any place, high or low, in the 6 counties.

I know, he chains leave serious bruises on the ankles, freedom of the mind is all you need!
So says one who lives in bondage  ;D 
Try freedom of mind and the freedom that goes with not having to live in the 6 counties.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: sid waddell on March 01, 2021, 11:19:34 PM
It is more important for Irish nationalism to call for a poll when it can be won than just simply calling for a poll. Now is the time when the preparation work should be done.
While I agree with the latter part, the only way to keep it in the pubic conscious is to continue calling for it. The more it is in the public eye the better. Make hay and all that

I think that actually doesn't help. SF seem to be calling for a border poll every other week. It's got to the point that if Arlene sneezes, SF ask for a border poll. I want a border poll but I certainly don't want one called in the next few years as it is unwinnable. I'd rather a mature conversation around what a New Ireland would look like took place with a view to a poll in circa 7-10 years.

SF call for a poll, but do not put in the grunt work to ensure that it would pass.

Working tirelessly from within to undermine the Frankenstein statelet and ensure NI doesn't work, while elevating itself to the largest party on the Island, "powersharing" with the vomit inducing DUP and at the same time in opposition to the equally corrupt FF/FG... I'd say no-one has done more heavy lifting or grunt work and no-one is more prepared or capable of getting it over the line. SF has the advantage of being a revolutionary party that is adept at facing challenges head on and adapting to change, the other 3, would they be fit to change a lightbulb between them without some sort of calamity?

We're facing a decade of change, yes one of SF latest mantra, but change is inevitable and the 3 parties facing SF are only interested in the status quo, by my estimation the electorate are well ahead of the politicians of those 3 vassal parties. The trio are a busted flush, standing on the threshold of another trembling world some might say.
Working tirelessly to undermine your own society isn't a good thing, it's a very bad thing, because it fecks up the lives of ordinary people
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 01, 2021, 11:21:27 PM
I will fight any southern Ireland GAA man who says he does not want a unitied Ireland.

Any time, any place.
Being born into freedom, even if it was just a conservative oppressive piss poor Irish society ,was something to cherish. I'd  even take living and growing up in Cavan before any place, high or low, in the 6 counties.

I know, he chains leave serious bruises on the ankles, freedom of the mind is all you need!
So says one who lives in bondage  ;D 
Try freedom of mind and the freedom that goes with not having to live in the 6 counties.

I live in Ireland and as Irish as you. Since the south turned its back on the north we’ve managed to get to a point where we’ll eventually do it for ourselves
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: tiempo on March 01, 2021, 11:40:54 PM
It is more important for Irish nationalism to call for a poll when it can be won than just simply calling for a poll. Now is the time when the preparation work should be done.
While I agree with the latter part, the only way to keep it in the pubic conscious is to continue calling for it. The more it is in the public eye the better. Make hay and all that

I think that actually doesn't help. SF seem to be calling for a border poll every other week. It's got to the point that if Arlene sneezes, SF ask for a border poll. I want a border poll but I certainly don't want one called in the next few years as it is unwinnable. I'd rather a mature conversation around what a New Ireland would look like took place with a view to a poll in circa 7-10 years.

SF call for a poll, but do not put in the grunt work to ensure that it would pass.

Working tirelessly from within to undermine the Frankenstein statelet and ensure NI doesn't work, while elevating itself to the largest party on the Island, "powersharing" with the vomit inducing DUP and at the same time in opposition to the equally corrupt FF/FG... I'd say no-one has done more heavy lifting or grunt work and no-one is more prepared or capable of getting it over the line. SF has the advantage of being a revolutionary party that is adept at facing challenges head on and adapting to change, the other 3, would they be fit to change a lightbulb between them without some sort of calamity?

We're facing a decade of change, yes one of SF latest mantra, but change is inevitable and the 3 parties facing SF are only interested in the status quo, by my estimation the electorate are well ahead of the politicians of those 3 vassal parties. The trio are a busted flush, standing on the threshold of another trembling world some might say.
Working tirelessly to undermine your own society isn't a good thing, it's a very bad thing, because it fecks up the lives of ordinary people

The apartheid Frankenstein state was never a functioning society, ordinary people fucked from the outset, a century of bigotry. The Tories still at it in their own dominion too.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on March 01, 2021, 11:41:30 PM
Shit just got real

How so?

Sorry, just meant the "ill fight any man anytime" speak above 😃
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: sid waddell on March 01, 2021, 11:46:54 PM
It is more important for Irish nationalism to call for a poll when it can be won than just simply calling for a poll. Now is the time when the preparation work should be done.
While I agree with the latter part, the only way to keep it in the pubic conscious is to continue calling for it. The more it is in the public eye the better. Make hay and all that

I think that actually doesn't help. SF seem to be calling for a border poll every other week. It's got to the point that if Arlene sneezes, SF ask for a border poll. I want a border poll but I certainly don't want one called in the next few years as it is unwinnable. I'd rather a mature conversation around what a New Ireland would look like took place with a view to a poll in circa 7-10 years.

SF call for a poll, but do not put in the grunt work to ensure that it would pass.

Working tirelessly from within to undermine the Frankenstein statelet and ensure NI doesn't work, while elevating itself to the largest party on the Island, "powersharing" with the vomit inducing DUP and at the same time in opposition to the equally corrupt FF/FG... I'd say no-one has done more heavy lifting or grunt work and no-one is more prepared or capable of getting it over the line. SF has the advantage of being a revolutionary party that is adept at facing challenges head on and adapting to change, the other 3, would they be fit to change a lightbulb between them without some sort of calamity?

We're facing a decade of change, yes one of SF latest mantra, but change is inevitable and the 3 parties facing SF are only interested in the status quo, by my estimation the electorate are well ahead of the politicians of those 3 vassal parties. The trio are a busted flush, standing on the threshold of another trembling world some might say.
Working tirelessly to undermine your own society isn't a good thing, it's a very bad thing, because it fecks up the lives of ordinary people

The apartheid Frankenstein state was never a functioning society, ordinary people fucked from the outset, a century of bigotry. The Tories still at it in their own dominion too.
And you're boasting about SF trying to make it a worse society

Why on earth would you boast about not just trying to prevent positive change in society, but actively trying to make things worse

That offers nothing to ordinary people - it only harms them

If SF's aim is to harm ordinary people - and you say it is - well then you've made a great case as to why nobody should ever vote for SF

And your bleatings about the Tories - who I agree also want to make things worse for ordinary people, are exposed as total hypocrisy

Because SF are, by your own admission, the exact same as the Tories - f**king up ordinary people's lives

Obsession with a flag above all else is not a lived life, it's a neuroticism
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Main Street on March 02, 2021, 12:03:18 AM
I will fight any southern Ireland GAA man who says he does not want a unitied Ireland.

Any time, any place.
Being born into freedom, even if it was just a conservative oppressive piss poor Irish society ,was something to cherish. I'd  even take living and growing up in Cavan before any place, high or low, in the 6 counties.

I know, he chains leave serious bruises on the ankles, freedom of the mind is all you need!
So says one who lives in bondage  ;D 
Try freedom of mind and the freedom that goes with not having to live in the 6 counties.

I live in Ireland and as Irish as you. Since the south turned its back on the north we’ve managed to get to a point where we’ll eventually do it for ourselves
As Irish as you are and  living in Ireland, does not equate to same experience as me. You have not experienced  the feeling of  growing up as a free Irishman, in an albeit  crappy but free part of Ireland, free from the NI version of the apartheid state, Stormont overlords, 2nd class  citizens,  British army occupation, condescending scummy British politicians, mad-hatter loyalists.  We are just ordinary dysfunctional but independent of shitty Britain and all that baggage.
If more of you nordie nationalists could appreciates the value of that concept, there would be less talk of 10 or 15 years until there is a border poll, and measuring up the value of subvented economic benefits of remaining as UK citizens as apposed to what  might be lost in a united Ireland.

Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Mikhail Prokhorov on March 02, 2021, 12:19:02 AM
I will fight any southern Ireland GAA man who says he does not want a unitied Ireland.

Any time, any place.
Being born into freedom, even if it was just a conservative oppressive piss poor Irish society ,was something to cherish. I'd  even take living and growing up in Cavan before any place, high or low, in the 6 counties.

I know, he chains leave serious bruises on the ankles, freedom of the mind is all you need!
So says one who lives in bondage  ;D 
Try freedom of mind and the freedom that goes with not having to live in the 6 counties.

I live in Ireland and as Irish as you. Since the south turned its back on the north we’ve managed to get to a point where we’ll eventually do it for ourselves
As Irish as you are and  living in Ireland, does not equate to same experience as me. You have not experienced  the feeling of  growing up as a free Irishman, in an albeit  crappy but free part of Ireland, free from the NI version of the apartheid state, Stormont overlords, 2nd class  citizens,  British army occupation, condescending scummy British politicians, mad-hatter loyalists.  We are just ordinary dysfunctional but independent of shitty Britain and all that baggage.
If more of you nordie nationalists could appreciates the value of that concept, there would be less talk of 10 or 15 years until there is a border poll, and measuring up the value of subvented economic benefits of remaining as UK citizens as apposed to what  might be lost in a united Ireland.

the vast majority of nordies do not want a united ireland, they are happy with the status quo, the reasons are mainly financial  ::),  a border poll in the morning would be trounced
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: tiempo on March 02, 2021, 12:32:12 AM
I will fight any southern Ireland GAA man who says he does not want a unitied Ireland.

Any time, any place.
Being born into freedom, even if it was just a conservative oppressive piss poor Irish society ,was something to cherish. I'd  even take living and growing up in Cavan before any place, high or low, in the 6 counties.

I know, he chains leave serious bruises on the ankles, freedom of the mind is all you need!
So says one who lives in bondage  ;D 
Try freedom of mind and the freedom that goes with not having to live in the 6 counties.

I live in Ireland and as Irish as you. Since the south turned its back on the north we’ve managed to get to a point where we’ll eventually do it for ourselves
As Irish as you are and  living in Ireland, does not equate to same experience as me. You have not experienced  the feeling of  growing up as a free Irishman, in an albeit  crappy but free part of Ireland, free from the NI version of the apartheid state, Stormont overlords, 2nd class  citizens,  British army occupation, condescending scummy British politicians, mad-hatter loyalists.  We are just ordinary dysfunctional but independent of shitty Britain and all that baggage.
If more of you nordie nationalists could appreciates the value of that concept, there would be less talk of 10 or 15 years until there is a border poll, and measuring up the value of subvented economic benefits of remaining as UK citizens as apposed to what  might be lost in a united Ireland.

the vast majority of nordies do not want a united ireland, they are happy with the status quo, the reasons are mainly financial  ::),  a border poll in the morning would be trounced

50%+1 is all the majority that matters
Protestant state for a Protestant people is a failed ideology
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: tiempo on March 02, 2021, 12:43:11 AM
It is more important for Irish nationalism to call for a poll when it can be won than just simply calling for a poll. Now is the time when the preparation work should be done.
While I agree with the latter part, the only way to keep it in the pubic conscious is to continue calling for it. The more it is in the public eye the better. Make hay and all that

I think that actually doesn't help. SF seem to be calling for a border poll every other week. It's got to the point that if Arlene sneezes, SF ask for a border poll. I want a border poll but I certainly don't want one called in the next few years as it is unwinnable. I'd rather a mature conversation around what a New Ireland would look like took place with a view to a poll in circa 7-10 years.

SF call for a poll, but do not put in the grunt work to ensure that it would pass.

Working tirelessly from within to undermine the Frankenstein statelet and ensure NI doesn't work, while elevating itself to the largest party on the Island, "powersharing" with the vomit inducing DUP and at the same time in opposition to the equally corrupt FF/FG... I'd say no-one has done more heavy lifting or grunt work and no-one is more prepared or capable of getting it over the line. SF has the advantage of being a revolutionary party that is adept at facing challenges head on and adapting to change, the other 3, would they be fit to change a lightbulb between them without some sort of calamity?

We're facing a decade of change, yes one of SF latest mantra, but change is inevitable and the 3 parties facing SF are only interested in the status quo, by my estimation the electorate are well ahead of the politicians of those 3 vassal parties. The trio are a busted flush, standing on the threshold of another trembling world some might say.
Working tirelessly to undermine your own society isn't a good thing, it's a very bad thing, because it fecks up the lives of ordinary people

The apartheid Frankenstein state was never a functioning society, ordinary people fucked from the outset, a century of bigotry. The Tories still at it in their own dominion too.
And you're boasting about SF trying to make it a worse society

Why on earth would you boast about not just trying to prevent positive change in society, but actively trying to make things worse

That offers nothing to ordinary people - it only harms them

If SF's aim is to harm ordinary people - and you say it is - well then you've made a great case as to why nobody should ever vote for SF

And your bleatings about the Tories - who I agree also want to make things worse for ordinary people, are exposed as total hypocrisy

Because SF are, by your own admission, the exact same as the Tories - f**king up ordinary people's lives

Obsession with a flag above all else is not a lived life, it's a neuroticism

Aparteid Frankenstein statelet, you know the history well enough.

SF are a chameleon, but more importantly they stand alone on this island against the Dublin London and Belfast establishment. The youth are behind them in droves, biggest party on the island, by a vast majority.

ps sorry for turning this thread temporarily into a SF thread, much more entertaining to stay on topic with DUP cuntwatch
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: johnnycool on March 02, 2021, 08:31:59 AM
Shit just got real

How so?

Sorry, just meant the "ill fight any man anytime" speak above 😃

Ah right, I didn't make the connection  ;D ;D ;D

<insert keyboard warrior meme here>
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 02, 2021, 08:44:38 AM
I will fight any southern Ireland GAA man who says he does not want a unitied Ireland.

Any time, any place.
Being born into freedom, even if it was just a conservative oppressive piss poor Irish society ,was something to cherish. I'd  even take living and growing up in Cavan before any place, high or low, in the 6 counties.

I know, he chains leave serious bruises on the ankles, freedom of the mind is all you need!
So says one who lives in bondage  ;D 
Try freedom of mind and the freedom that goes with not having to live in the 6 counties.

I live in Ireland and as Irish as you. Since the south turned its back on the north we’ve managed to get to a point where we’ll eventually do it for ourselves
As Irish as you are and  living in Ireland, does not equate to same experience as me. You have not experienced  the feeling of  growing up as a free Irishman, in an albeit  crappy but free part of Ireland, free from the NI version of the apartheid state, Stormont overlords, 2nd class  citizens,  British army occupation, condescending scummy British politicians, mad-hatter loyalists.  We are just ordinary dysfunctional but independent of shitty Britain and all that baggage.
If more of you nordie nationalists could appreciates the value of that concept, there would be less talk of 10 or 15 years until there is a border poll, and measuring up the value of subvented economic benefits of remaining as UK citizens as apposed to what  might be lost in a united Ireland.

Never once felt like a 2nd class citizen, in most cases I felt the South had an opportunity to keep Ireland as a whole but decided to ditch its citizens in the north and wash their hands of dirty agreement with the brits.

By accident of birth those born in the Republic have not had to endure the troubles and are completely free of the UK, but you can dispense with the condescending approach towards northern nationalist, they are as Irish as you, whether you like that or not
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Applesisapples on March 02, 2021, 09:05:55 AM
I will fight any southern Ireland GAA man who says he does not want a unitied Ireland.

Any time, any place.
Being born into freedom, even if it was just a conservative oppressive piss poor Irish society ,was something to cherish. I'd  even take living and growing up in Cavan before any place, high or low, in the 6 counties.

I know, he chains leave serious bruises on the ankles, freedom of the mind is all you need!
So says one who lives in bondage  ;D 
Try freedom of mind and the freedom that goes with not having to live in the 6 counties.

I live in Ireland and as Irish as you. Since the south turned its back on the north we’ve managed to get to a point where we’ll eventually do it for ourselves
As Irish as you are and  living in Ireland, does not equate to same experience as me. You have not experienced  the feeling of  growing up as a free Irishman, in an albeit  crappy but free part of Ireland, free from the NI version of the apartheid state, Stormont overlords, 2nd class  citizens,  British army occupation, condescending scummy British politicians, mad-hatter loyalists.  We are just ordinary dysfunctional but independent of shitty Britain and all that baggage.
If more of you nordie nationalists could appreciates the value of that concept, there would be less talk of 10 or 15 years until there is a border poll, and measuring up the value of subvented economic benefits of remaining as UK citizens as apposed to what  might be lost in a united Ireland.

Never once felt like a 2nd class citizen, in most cases I felt the South had an opportunity to keep Ireland as a whole but decided to ditch its citizens in the north and wash their hands of dirty agreement with the brits.

By accident of birth those born in the Republic have not had to endure the troubles and are completely free of the UK, but you can dispense with the condescending approach towards northern nationalist, they are as Irish as you, whether you like that or not
You are lucky then, I grew up being reminded everyday that I was a second class citizen, it was ingrained. The Lambegs outside the Chapel were just the tip of it. My Children though have had a different experience.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on March 02, 2021, 12:41:22 PM
I wouldn’t say every day but yeah you certainly got reminders of it near where we were at too. Like you say very different now.

I read a Facebook comment there I found quite funny about just being like Carson 100 years ago who was prepared to go to war with the British for the right to be British. You couldn’t make some of it up.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: sid waddell on March 02, 2021, 01:04:47 PM
It is more important for Irish nationalism to call for a poll when it can be won than just simply calling for a poll. Now is the time when the preparation work should be done.
While I agree with the latter part, the only way to keep it in the pubic conscious is to continue calling for it. The more it is in the public eye the better. Make hay and all that

I think that actually doesn't help. SF seem to be calling for a border poll every other week. It's got to the point that if Arlene sneezes, SF ask for a border poll. I want a border poll but I certainly don't want one called in the next few years as it is unwinnable. I'd rather a mature conversation around what a New Ireland would look like took place with a view to a poll in circa 7-10 years.

SF call for a poll, but do not put in the grunt work to ensure that it would pass.

Working tirelessly from within to undermine the Frankenstein statelet and ensure NI doesn't work, while elevating itself to the largest party on the Island, "powersharing" with the vomit inducing DUP and at the same time in opposition to the equally corrupt FF/FG... I'd say no-one has done more heavy lifting or grunt work and no-one is more prepared or capable of getting it over the line. SF has the advantage of being a revolutionary party that is adept at facing challenges head on and adapting to change, the other 3, would they be fit to change a lightbulb between them without some sort of calamity?

We're facing a decade of change, yes one of SF latest mantra, but change is inevitable and the 3 parties facing SF are only interested in the status quo, by my estimation the electorate are well ahead of the politicians of those 3 vassal parties. The trio are a busted flush, standing on the threshold of another trembling world some might say.
Working tirelessly to undermine your own society isn't a good thing, it's a very bad thing, because it fecks up the lives of ordinary people

The apartheid Frankenstein state was never a functioning society, ordinary people fucked from the outset, a century of bigotry. The Tories still at it in their own dominion too.
And you're boasting about SF trying to make it a worse society

Why on earth would you boast about not just trying to prevent positive change in society, but actively trying to make things worse

That offers nothing to ordinary people - it only harms them

If SF's aim is to harm ordinary people - and you say it is - well then you've made a great case as to why nobody should ever vote for SF

And your bleatings about the Tories - who I agree also want to make things worse for ordinary people, are exposed as total hypocrisy

Because SF are, by your own admission, the exact same as the Tories - f**king up ordinary people's lives

Obsession with a flag above all else is not a lived life, it's a neuroticism

Aparteid Frankenstein statelet, you know the history well enough.

SF are a chameleon, but more importantly they stand alone on this island against the Dublin London and Belfast establishment. The youth are behind them in droves, biggest party on the island, by a vast majority.

ps sorry for turning this thread temporarily into a SF thread, much more entertaining to stay on topic with DUP cuntwatch
Northern Ireland is not an apartheid state, it is a state with deep divisions - but that does not equal an apartheid state or anything like it

Saying you "stand against the establishment" is vacuous soundbyte nonsense

SF are in government in NI, they are the establishment

If you're trying to undermine the very society you're supposed to be governing, you have no business being anywhere near government

Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on March 02, 2021, 01:09:09 PM
They are not the only party who does that here.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: general_lee on March 02, 2021, 01:27:49 PM
SF are NOT the establishment. How can they be if they don’t even bother their holes going to Westminster? Northern Ireland may not be an apartheid state but the mentality and culture of the people it was created for are of the same school of thought. Agitating for change is not undermining society. Especially a society so dysfunctional as the one in the occupied 6.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: tyroneman on March 02, 2021, 05:15:19 PM
Quote
Northern Ireland is not an apartheid state, it is a state with deep divisions - but that does not equal an apartheid state or anything like it

Saying you "stand against the establishment" is vacuous soundbyte nonsense

SF are in government in NI, they are the establishment

If you're trying to undermine the very society you're supposed to be governing, you have no business being anywhere near government

Perhaps not now....however tell that to those Catholics who lived through being disenfranchised and disempowered for a long, long time, unable to vote, turned away from jobs (the Northern Ireland PM advising ' I recommended people not to employ Roman Catholics'), unable to get adequate housing, subject to open advocacy of a 'Protestant government for a Protestant people' , the gerrymandering, the geography of the transport network etc etc
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: sid waddell on March 02, 2021, 06:59:54 PM
SF are NOT the establishment. How can they be if they don’t even bother their holes going to Westminster? Northern Ireland may not be an apartheid state but the mentality and culture of the people it was created for are of the same school of thought. Agitating for change is not undermining society. Especially a society so dysfunctional as the one in the occupied 6.
Of course they are the establishment

They are in government

According to an SF supporter on this thread, they are working to undermine Northern Ireland, ie. they are working to undermine the lives of ordinary people

To call that a dereliction of duty seems like a massive understatement

Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: sid waddell on March 02, 2021, 07:01:42 PM
They are not the only party who does that here.
100%

The DUP also actively undermine their own society and work against the well being of ordinary people

All because of a "fweg"

That's nationalism for ya

But so do Sinn Fein
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: sid waddell on March 02, 2021, 07:03:45 PM
I wouldn’t say every day but yeah you certainly got reminders of it near where we were at too. Like you say very different now.

I read a Facebook comment there I found quite funny about just being like Carson 100 years ago who was prepared to go to war with the British for the right to be British. You couldn’t make some of it up.
Reading this thread I sometimes nearly think that some people here would be prepared to go to war with the Irish for the right to be Irish
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: ardtole on March 02, 2021, 07:39:12 PM
I wouldn’t say every day but yeah you certainly got reminders of it near where we were at too. Like you say very different now.

I read a Facebook comment there I found quite funny about just being like Carson 100 years ago who was prepared to go to war with the British for the right to be British. You couldn’t make some of it up.
Reading this thread I sometimes nearly think that some people here would be prepared to go to war with the Irish for the right to be Irish

Reading this thread some irish would be prepared to go to war to prevent irish reunification. Tommy Conlon must have an account here.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Orior on March 02, 2021, 07:47:16 PM
They are not the only party who does that here.
100%

The DUP also actively undermine their own society and work against the well being of ordinary people

All because of a "fweg"

That's nationalism for ya

But so do Sinn Fein

Why would nationalists want the six county statelet to work?
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: armaghniac on March 02, 2021, 07:51:16 PM
They are not the only party who does that here.
100%

The DUP also actively undermine their own society and work against the well being of ordinary people

All because of a "fweg"

That's nationalism for ya

But so do Sinn Fein

Why would nationalists want the six county statelet to work?

It needs to work tolerably in order to be in sufficient shape to join the rest of the country.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: general_lee on March 02, 2021, 08:34:12 PM
SF are NOT the establishment. How can they be if they don’t even bother their holes going to Westminster? Northern Ireland may not be an apartheid state but the mentality and culture of the people it was created for are of the same school of thought. Agitating for change is not undermining society. Especially a society so dysfunctional as the one in the occupied 6.
Of course they are the establishment

They are in government

According to an SF supporter on this thread, they are working to undermine Northern Ireland, ie. they are working to undermine the lives of ordinary people

To call that a dereliction of duty seems like a massive understatement
Being in government does not equate to being the establishment. Undermining Northern Ireland, a failed, sectarian entity that does not work, is not undermining the lives of anyone. Such logic is actually preposterous.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: sid waddell on March 02, 2021, 08:45:54 PM
They are not the only party who does that here.
100%

The DUP also actively undermine their own society and work against the well being of ordinary people

All because of a "fweg"

That's nationalism for ya

But so do Sinn Fein

Why would nationalists want the six county statelet to work?
Why would you want a society to fail?

That harms ordinary people a lot

Doesn't it?

And thus it means that you would be nothing more than a neurotic fwegger

Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: sid waddell on March 02, 2021, 08:48:20 PM
SF are NOT the establishment. How can they be if they don’t even bother their holes going to Westminster? Northern Ireland may not be an apartheid state but the mentality and culture of the people it was created for are of the same school of thought. Agitating for change is not undermining society. Especially a society so dysfunctional as the one in the occupied 6.
Of course they are the establishment

They are in government

According to an SF supporter on this thread, they are working to undermine Northern Ireland, ie. they are working to undermine the lives of ordinary people

To call that a dereliction of duty seems like a massive understatement
Being in government does not equate to being the establishment. Undermining Northern Ireland, a failed, sectarian entity that does not work, is not undermining the lives of anyone. Such logic is actually preposterous.
What is the government if not the establishment?

Your idea of what the establishment is simply a meaningless buzzword

Eh, yes it is undermining the lives of people

Sinn Fein have a vested interest in producing a failed state

Failed states lead to bad outcomes for the people who live in them, in terms of health, education, employment, social security, every outcome you can think of that affects the quality of human life

It is quite astounding that Shinnerbots are openly admitting they want a lower quality of life for the people of Northern Ireland

Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on March 02, 2021, 09:18:32 PM
They are not the only party who does that here.
100%

The DUP also actively undermine their own society and work against the well being of ordinary people

All because of a "fweg"

That's nationalism for ya

But so do Sinn Fein

Why would nationalists want the six county statelet to work?

It needs to work tolerably in order to be in sufficient shape to join the rest of the country.

This plus for the meantime I would prefer to not go hungry and have a half decent quality of life...

The dup are also actively looking for the NI protocol to fail Sid. Oh what a place we live in.
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: Orior on March 02, 2021, 10:14:00 PM
They are not the only party who does that here.
100%

The DUP also actively undermine their own society and work against the well being of ordinary people

All because of a "fweg"

That's nationalism for ya

But so do Sinn Fein

Why would nationalists want the six county statelet to work?

It needs to work tolerably in order to be in sufficient shape to join the rest of the country.

This plus for the meantime I would prefer to not go hungry and have a half decent quality of life...

The dup are also actively looking for the NI protocol to fail Sid. Oh what a place we live in.

If we went hungry, then the blame would lie fair and square with England and they cannot afford to let that happen.

So the tactic for both SDLP and SF should be to build economic potential (ie Brexit & NI Protocol) but then have the low-brow knuckle draggers try to pull it down (i.e. Loyalism).
Title: Re: 💩 DUP C*ntwatch - Fleg Lives Matter
Post by: imtommygunn on March 02, 2021, 10:18:54 PM
It never stopped them before...

It’s not a very likely scenario though.

Yeah you have a point. The tables have kind of turned. Sf should want the ni protocol to work with a view to a United ireland and the dup should want it to fail. They are doing everything they can to make it fail too. So yet again we are in a position where one of the “big two” has no interest in “the establishment “ succeeding. Joy...