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Title: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Estimator on August 05, 2019, 11:19:47 AM
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Now that we are down to the last 4 teams in the race for the All Ireland title, what are the chances that those already eliminated will pick up All Stars.

Donegal should pick up a few nominations for the likes of Murphy, McHugh, Brennan, McBrearty and Patton. But, despite winning Ulster and only losing one game, they will only pick up a maximum of 2.

Cork, Meath and Roscommon combined might only get a couple between them if that.

From an Ulster perspective the likes of McKiernan (Cavan) and O'Neill (Armagh) could get nominations, but have no chance of the award.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2019, 11:27:25 AM
I'd expect Murphy and McHugh to get all stars.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: thewobbler on August 05, 2019, 11:50:42 AM
At this stage I’d think the only nailed on All Stars are Jack McCaffrey and David Clifford.

Cathal McShane, Sean O’Shea, Aidan O’Shea, Paul Mannion and Brian Fenton probably only need a 7/10 performance each in their remaining game(s) to book their spots.

Everything else is wide open as we are now at the men vs men stage, and the AI finalists will take 10-12 spots.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Angelo on August 05, 2019, 12:26:00 PM
I think McShane and McNamee have been Tyrone's standout performers so far. A big performance from Donnelly or Harte one a semi final or potential final should also put them in firm contention.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: giveballaghback on August 05, 2019, 12:46:44 PM
All stars set up is a joke and a back slapping exercise between the media and a few successful counties. Has there ever been a year when the best 15 in their positions were the actual all star selection or better still has there ever been a year where they git 8 of them right. Some of these media people who make the selection have no idea of what is going on outside of the top few teams.
The original "texaco" all stars way back in the day were away more reflective of the best footballers in the land and there would be a spread of 10 or 12 counties represented.
Now its a pass the biscuits exercise and in my humble opinion these awards carry no weight because they depend on the success of your team more than the personal skills of the player.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: skeog on August 05, 2019, 12:55:21 PM
Dont think Murphy and Mcc Hugh be getting All Stars imo.Its usually beaten semi finalists plus finalists plus a token.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: BennyCake on August 05, 2019, 01:06:33 PM
All stars are still up for grabs. One good performance or memorable goal (a la Mulligan) or block (Gormley) and you’re a good shout for an award.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: kerryforsam19 on August 05, 2019, 01:13:41 PM
Shaun Patton
Brendan Harrison
Ronan McNamee
Tom Sullivan
Gavin Crowley
Colm Boyle
Ryan McHugh
David Moran
Aidan O'Shea
Mattie Donnelly
Seanie Shea
Jamie Brennan
Cillian Connors
Cathal McShane
David Clifford
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 05, 2019, 01:16:04 PM
All stars last year.

Winners Dublin got 7
Runners up Tyrone 2
Beaten semi finalists Monaghan got 3 and Galway 1
Then 1 each for Donegal and Kerry who made their exit at the last 8 stage.

Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 05, 2019, 01:18:14 PM
Shaun Patton
Brendan Harrison
Ronan McNamee
Tom Sullivan
Gavin Crowley
Colm Boyle
Ryan McHugh
David Moran
Aidan O'Shea
Mattie Donnelly
Seanie Shea
Jamie Brennan
Cillian Connors
Cathal McShane
David Clifford

Brennan won't get one after the last two games. As good as he was before that.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on August 05, 2019, 01:25:01 PM
At this stage I’d think the only nailed on All Stars are Jack McCaffrey and David Clifford.

Cathal McShane, Sean O’Shea, Aidan O’Shea, Paul Mannion and Brian Fenton probably only need a 7/10 performance each in their remaining game(s) to book their spots.

Everything else is wide open as we are now at the men vs men stage, and the AI finalists will take 10-12 spots.
I’d say Fenton and McShane are more or less nailed on as well, at least one of Murphy and McHugh will get one.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 05, 2019, 01:26:22 PM
Kieran Donaghy didn’t make an appearance until 5 minutes to go in an AISF and got one in 2014 so too early to say yet!
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: BennyCake on August 05, 2019, 01:54:21 PM
Kieran Donaghy didn’t make an appearance until 5 minutes to go in an AISF and got one in 2014 so too early to say yet!

Exactly.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: oliverkelly on August 05, 2019, 02:12:38 PM
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Now that we are down to the last 4 teams in the race for the All Ireland title, what are the chances that those already eliminated will pick up All Stars.

Donegal should pick up a few nominations for the likes of Murphy, McHugh, Brennan, McBrearty and Patton. But, despite winning Ulster and only losing one game, they will only pick up a maximum of 2.

Cork, Meath and Roscommon combined might only get a couple between them if that.

From an Ulster perspective the likes of McKiernan (Cavan) and O'Neill (Armagh) could get nominations, but have no chance of the award.

On what basis do Donegal deserve so much more nominations to Roscommon? Both won the same amount of games in this years Championship with Roscommon beating arguably better sides than Donegal,
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Rossfan on August 05, 2019, 02:36:55 PM
This nonsense will as usual have around 11 from the AI Finalists and 3 if not 4 from the Semi Finalists.
The other 4 last 8 teams will get a scatter of nominations to make it look good.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: rodney trotter on August 05, 2019, 02:53:03 PM
Conor Cox will be nominated for sure. Enda Smith probaly too Donal Keoghan and maybe Cillian O Sullivan. Ruari Deane would be thereabouts.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: tyrone08 on August 05, 2019, 03:10:50 PM
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Now that we are down to the last 4 teams in the race for the All Ireland title, what are the chances that those already eliminated will pick up All Stars.

Donegal should pick up a few nominations for the likes of Murphy, McHugh, Brennan, McBrearty and Patton. But, despite winning Ulster and only losing one game, they will only pick up a maximum of 2.

Cork, Meath and Roscommon combined might only get a couple between them if that.

From an Ulster perspective the likes of McKiernan (Cavan) and O'Neill (Armagh) could get nominations, but have no chance of the award.

On what basis do Donegal deserve so much more nominations to Roscommon? Both won the same amount of games in this years Championship with Roscommon beating arguably better sides than Donegal,

Not sure why murphy or mchugh deserve an all star. They had two great games which was about it. Mchugh was completely missing in the mayo match. I would give murphy one over mchugh if i had to chose between them.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: J70 on August 05, 2019, 04:02:48 PM
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Now that we are down to the last 4 teams in the race for the All Ireland title, what are the chances that those already eliminated will pick up All Stars.

Donegal should pick up a few nominations for the likes of Murphy, McHugh, Brennan, McBrearty and Patton. But, despite winning Ulster and only losing one game, they will only pick up a maximum of 2.

Cork, Meath and Roscommon combined might only get a couple between them if that.

From an Ulster perspective the likes of McKiernan (Cavan) and O'Neill (Armagh) could get nominations, but have no chance of the award.

On what basis do Donegal deserve so much more nominations to Roscommon? Both won the same amount of games in this years Championship with Roscommon beating arguably better sides than Donegal,

Not sure why murphy or mchugh deserve an all star. They had two great games which was about it. Mchugh was completely missing in the mayo match. I would give murphy one over mchugh if i had to chose between them.

Murphy was outstanding against Tyrone, Cavan, Meath and Kerry (I haven’t said Fermanagh because I honestly don’t remember). He was the best Donegal player against Mayo and almost single handedly dragged us back into it. It’s been arguably his best overall season, dominating games completely at times.

McHugh has had an excellent summer too up until the last game, when he was anonymous.

Murphy will get an All Star. McHugh won’t. Neither will any other Donegal players. A few nominations maybe.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: WhoDat on August 05, 2019, 06:31:16 PM
Shaun Patton
Brendan Harrison
Ronan McNamee
Tom Sullivan
Gavin Crowley
Colm Boyle
Ryan McHugh
David Moran
Aidan O'Shea
Mattie Donnelly
Seanie Shea
Jamie Brennan
Cillian Connors
Cathal McShane
David Clifford

Brennan won't get one after the last two games. As good as he was before that.

agreed. brennan has played himself out of a nomination, completely lost form and confidence.

if patrick durcan has a good semi final, he might get one
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: J70 on August 05, 2019, 06:35:29 PM
Shaun Patton
Brendan Harrison
Ronan McNamee
Tom Sullivan
Gavin Crowley
Colm Boyle
Ryan McHugh
David Moran
Aidan O'Shea
Mattie Donnelly
Seanie Shea
Jamie Brennan
Cillian Connors
Cathal McShane
David Clifford

Brennan won't get one after the last two games. As good as he was before that.

agreed. brennan has played himself out of a nomination, completely lost form and confidence.

if patrick durcan has a good semi final, he might get one

Not sure what happened to Brennan. I don't remember him touching the ball against Mayo. He was unstoppable in Ulster, including against Tyrone. Even in the Fermanagh game, when he was well marked and had a quiet match in terms of involvement, he still stepped up and hit three or four from play. Meath marked him well , but he still got a couple of scores. Kerry didn't let him get a shot off, but at least he got on the ball and won a few frees. But against Mayo, it was like he wasn't on the field.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: dublin7 on August 05, 2019, 10:18:52 PM
Shaun Patton
Brendan Harrison
Ronan McNamee
Tom Sullivan
Gavin Crowley
Colm Boyle
Ryan McHugh
David Moran
Aidan O'Shea
Mattie Donnelly
Seanie Shea
Jamie Brennan
Cillian Connors
Cathal McShane
David Clifford

Brennan won't get one after the last two games. As good as he was before that.

agreed. brennan has played himself out of a nomination, completely lost form and confidence.

if patrick durcan has a good semi final, he might get one

Anyone not picking Fenton for an All Star based on his form this year needs to look again. At the moment He's a contender for POTY and the best midfielder in the country. McCaffrey is nearly nailed on as well
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: oliverkelly on August 06, 2019, 08:40:40 AM
Shaun Patton
Brendan Harrison
Ronan McNamee
Tom Sullivan
Gavin Crowley
Colm Boyle
Ryan McHugh
David Moran
Aidan O'Shea
Mattie Donnelly
Seanie Shea
Jamie Brennan
Cillian Connors
Cathal McShane
David Clifford

Is this actually a wind up? Cillian Connors? i persume you mean Cillian O Connor, Not a chance does he deserve an All Star on this years form he has only played a hand full of games. If he has an exceptional semi final and Final yeah maybe but not within an asses roar at the minute.
Brendan Harrison got roasted in a good few games in this years championship. Against both Roscommon and Kerry he was taken to the cleaners.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: kerryforsam19 on August 06, 2019, 08:47:06 AM
Shaun Patton
Brendan Harrison
Ronan McNamee
Tom Sullivan
Gavin Crowley
Colm Boyle
Ryan McHugh
David Moran
Aidan O'Shea
Mattie Donnelly
Seanie Shea
Jamie Brennan
Cillian Connors
Cathal McShane
David Clifford

Is this actually a wind up? Cillian Connors? i persume you mean Cillian O Connor, Not a chance does he deserve an All Star on this years form he has only played a hand full of games. If he has an exceptional semi final and Final yeah maybe but not within an asses roar at the minute.
Brendan Harrison got roasted in a good few games in this years championship. Against both Roscommon and Kerry he was taken to the cleaners.

Connors have been most consistent forward in last month. Harrison want too bad against Kerry.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: blanketattack on August 06, 2019, 04:08:13 PM
Brian Fenton and Stephen O'Brien are both in the current top 3 for Player of the Year, so should surely be in a potential All-Star XV.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2019, 04:16:03 PM
Fenton best midfielder in the country by a long way and to be honest moving towards one of the better ones ever at current rate.

OBrien good call. I don't think he'll get the same space against Tyrone and if they meet Dublin McCaffrey might do him damage too but at present one of the in form players.

Jamie Brennan wouldn't be near it. Poor in the super 8s though fantastic in ulster.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: yellowcard on August 06, 2019, 04:50:17 PM
Michael Murphy is the only player outside of the last 4 who will win an award. The rest will be dictated to by results and performances in the last 3 games. A poor performance can equally mean someone who previously looked a shoe in playing their way off the team as was the case with Ryan McHugh last weekend.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Estimator on August 06, 2019, 05:10:55 PM
Michael Murphy is the only player outside of the last 4 who will win an award. The rest will be dictated to by results and performances in the last 3 games. A poor performance can equally mean someone who previously looked a shoe in playing their way off the team as was the case with Ryan McHugh last weekend.

 I'd agree with that. I'd say Patton is out of the running now for the goalkeeper spot. I'm sure it'll be a toss up between Cluxton and Morgan now.
So, aside from Murphy, I'd say McNamee, McCaffrey, Fenton, O'Brien, McShane, and Clifford are the ones that can play themselves off the team, if they put in an anonymous performance over the next game or two. The rest can be picked up with a couple of good outings.
1. Cluxton / Morgan
2.
3. McNamee
4.
5.
6.
7. McCaffrey
8. Fenton
9.
10. Murphy
11.
12. O'Brien
13. Clifford
14. McShane
15.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Blowitupref on August 06, 2019, 05:16:48 PM
Players from the final 8 that has impressed me the most and should be in the running for All star nominations.

Dublin - S Cluxton,J Small,J Mccaffery,B Fenton,C O'Callaghan,P Mannion,K Kilkenny

Kerry -  T O'Sullivan,P Murphy,D Moran,D Clifford,S O'Brien,S O'Shea

Tyrone - Morgan,R McNamee,P Harte,C McShane,Donnelly

Mayo -  Boyle,Durcan,A O'Shea,D Coen

Roscommon - C Cox,N Daly,D Murray

Donegal - Patton,R McHugh,M Murphy

Meath - C McGill,D Keogan,B Menton

Cork - L Connolly,M Collins.

Of course we could have a few players not named there among Kerry,Mayo,Tyrone,Dublin to really stand out in the semi or final and end up winning All stars.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on August 06, 2019, 05:56:07 PM
Shaun Patton
Brendan Harrison
Ronan McNamee
Tom Sullivan
Gavin Crowley
Colm Boyle
Ryan McHugh
David Moran
Aidan O'Shea
Mattie Donnelly
Seanie Shea
Jamie Brennan
Cillian Connors
Cathal McShane
David Clifford

Is this actually a wind up? Cillian Connors? i persume you mean Cillian O Connor, Not a chance does he deserve an All Star on this years form he has only played a hand full of games. If he has an exceptional semi final and Final yeah maybe but not within an asses roar at the minute.
Brendan Harrison got roasted in a good few games in this years championship. Against both Roscommon and Kerry he was taken to the cleaners.
Look at the amount of Dubs he’s picked, of course its a wind up.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Dire Ear on August 06, 2019, 06:00:34 PM
Keep requoting him...........great idea :'(
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Conallach on August 06, 2019, 06:52:39 PM
For the lads whose season has come to an end I'd give Keoghan & Murphy All Stars. O'Neill, McGill, Smith, Patton & maybe a couple of others would be well deserving of a nomination and whether it goes any further for them depends on who blows their chances between now and the end!

Counting by county is a very silly measure. It's an individual reward. I have two Meath men included in my nominations which some might complain about but they both deserve it imo.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 11, 2019, 01:39:21 AM
Dublin to get all 15?
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Ball Hopper on August 11, 2019, 03:36:41 AM
Dublin to get all 15?

And 18 nominations?
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Hound on August 11, 2019, 08:29:46 AM
Dublin to get all 15?
13.

You couldn’t leave out Durcan and Murphy.

Two more matches than can change things!
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: tonto1888 on August 11, 2019, 08:34:25 AM
I think Mannion is nailed on for one anyway
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: dublin7 on August 11, 2019, 09:28:10 AM
I think Mannion is nailed on for one anyway
Fenton, Howard and O'Callaghan nailed on now as well.

Fenton looming good for POTY
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: straightred on August 11, 2019, 09:33:24 AM
I think Mannion is nailed on for one anyway
Fenton, Howard and O'Callaghan nailed on now as well.

Fenton looming good for POTY

con is the short odds favorite for POTY with Paddy Power
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on August 11, 2019, 10:35:28 AM
I think Mannion is nailed on for one anyway
Fenton, Howard and O'Callaghan nailed on now as well.

Fenton looming good for POTY

con is the short odds favorite for POTY with Paddy Power
Couldn’t have any complaints if either of those two won it going by what we’ve seen so far anyway, barring a miracle from Clifford or Donnelly or the like today and in the final
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: yellowcard on August 11, 2019, 11:29:21 AM
O’Callaghan deserves to win POTY if it was picked now but really it changes from game to game. Before yesterday I would have said McCaffrey but he was largely anonymous yesterday yet may well go on to have a great final. Clifford could yet go on to dislodge O’Callaghan with 2 big performances today and in a potential final.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on August 11, 2019, 09:33:30 PM
McShane superb today, but unlikely to win an All Star ahead of Clifford, Mannion and Con O’C.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: yellowcard on August 11, 2019, 09:36:59 PM
Of teams beaten I think only Murphy, McShane and Durcan will get one. Possibly Aidan O’Se also.

Dubs could clean up though if they get 5 in a row with as many as 9/10 awards. Clifford and Stephen O’Brien only certainties for Kerry.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: imtommygunn on August 11, 2019, 09:37:09 PM
Mcshane much bigger influence than Clifford today. Not sure how well he will do in the final either - might not see much ball.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: tonto1888 on August 11, 2019, 09:41:50 PM
Mcshane much bigger influence than Clifford today. Not sure how well he will do in the final either - might not see much ball.

What did Clifford get today? Only the 5?
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Main Street on August 11, 2019, 09:48:12 PM
Overall, Mattie Donnelly would be my first choice from the red horde. I like his solo run, nice to see some art at play as a part of his game.

What happened to Peter Harte today? I think he dropped down a bit in the reckoning after today's game.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: UpMeeyo on August 11, 2019, 10:01:42 PM
Cluxton
Fitzsimmons cooper/McNamee t o Sullivan?
McCaffrey Small Durcan
Fenton Murphy
O Brien O Callaghan Howard/Sean o Shea
Mannion McShane Clifford

Don't like that fullback line but can't think of many that have excelled?
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: From the Bunker on August 11, 2019, 10:02:52 PM
Who cares? Honestly?
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: ONeill on August 11, 2019, 10:15:40 PM
I do.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 11, 2019, 10:18:27 PM
Surely Conor Cox is worthy of one?
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 11, 2019, 10:34:31 PM
I reckon

S Cluxton
T O'Sullivan R McNamee J Cooper
J McCaffrey J McCarthy P Durcan
B Fenton  D Moran
S O'Brien M Murphy C O'Callaghan
D Clifford C McShane P Mannion


Dublin 7
Kerry 4
Tyrone 2
Mayo 1
Donegal 1
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on August 12, 2019, 07:50:46 AM
Mcshane much bigger influence than Clifford today. Not sure how well he will do in the final either - might not see much ball.
True, but Clifford being double marked, barely saw him but almost anytime he got the ball it was a score
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: imtommygunn on August 12, 2019, 09:09:26 AM
Mcshane much bigger influence than Clifford today. Not sure how well he will do in the final either - might not see much ball.
True, but Clifford being double marked, barely saw him but almost anytime he got the ball it was a score

Yeah having watched it back I underestimated his influence.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Erne Man on August 12, 2019, 09:42:32 AM
In my opinion, I dont think either Durcan or Murphy will have done enough to warrant All Stars this year - and would expect both to be replaced on the team above by Howard and Kilkenny respectively after the final -  on the assumption that Dublin win.
At the minute Fitzimmons has done more to merit an award than Cooper at corner back.

Given the magnitude of winning 5 in a row, I'd expect Dublin to deservedly pick up 10 or 11 this year.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: thejuice on August 12, 2019, 10:11:04 AM
Keoghan and possibly McGill to be nominated but can’t see either winning.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Hound on August 12, 2019, 10:15:12 AM
Keoghan and possibly McGill to be nominated but can’t see either winning.
Definitely both should get nominated. Keoghan a genuine contender, but half back is loaded so he won't get one.

Menton will get nominated too. The media have heard of him and he got a couple of great goals
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: t_mac on August 12, 2019, 10:20:08 AM
I do.

I'd try not to let it worry ye.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: greatpoint on August 12, 2019, 10:28:19 AM
I reckon

S Cluxton
T O'Sullivan R McNamee J Cooper
J McCaffrey J McCarthy P Durcan
B Fenton  D Moran
S O'Brien M Murphy C O'Callaghan
D Clifford C McShane P Mannion


Dublin 7
Kerry 4
Tyrone 2
Mayo 1
Donegal 1

It's highly unlikely that Tyrone will receive two All-Stars.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: larryin89 on August 12, 2019, 10:28:50 AM
Kerry will get the majority , champions always do.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: oliverkelly on August 12, 2019, 10:30:41 AM
Surely Conor Cox is worthy of one?

If they were handed out after the Connaght Championship yes he would, but about as much chance of me getting one now as Cox
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: thejuice on August 12, 2019, 10:32:58 AM
Keoghan and possibly McGill to be nominated but can’t see either winning.
Definitely both should get nominated. Keoghan a genuine contender, but half back is loaded so he won't get one.

Menton will get nominated too. The media have heard of him and he got a couple of great goals

Not sure, he’s got his name out there for getting on the scoreboard but as a midfielder he’s not picking balls out of the sky enough and there’s quite a few others to get nominated.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Hound on August 12, 2019, 01:40:21 PM
Keoghan and possibly McGill to be nominated but can’t see either winning.
Definitely both should get nominated. Keoghan a genuine contender, but half back is loaded so he won't get one.

Menton will get nominated too. The media have heard of him and he got a couple of great goals

Not sure, he’s got his name out there for getting on the scoreboard but as a midfielder he’s not picking balls out of the sky enough and there’s quite a few others to get nominated.
Agree completely. But I reckon he could still get nominated. Goals grab the headlines! 
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 12, 2019, 07:25:57 PM
In my opinion, I dont think either Durcan or Murphy will have done enough to warrant All Stars this year - and would expect both to be replaced on the team above by Howard and Kilkenny respectively after the final -  on the assumption that Dublin win.
At the minute Fitzimmons has done more to merit an award than Cooper at corner back.

Given the magnitude of winning 5 in a row, I'd expect Dublin to deservedly pick up 10 or 11 this year.

Murphy had one of his best ever summers with Donegal which should more than warrant his 3rd All star. On Durcan, here are some stats that was tweeted up about him.

Quote
In his six championship matches this summer Paddy Durcan has marked six players and held five of them scoreless from play, while grabbing 0-8 himself. His last victims: Jack McCaffrey,Ryan McHugh not just Held scoreless but one shot between them.

It's highly unlikely that Tyrone will receive two All-Stars.
Arguably the best full back and full forward this year, will make little sense if both of those players didn't get All Stars IMO.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: bannside on August 12, 2019, 09:02:24 PM
Stephen Mc Menamin held Mattie Donnelly and David Clifford to two points between them. For this alone a nomination is deserved.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Estimator on August 14, 2019, 08:57:51 PM
Stephen Mc Menamin held Mattie Donnelly and David Clifford to two points between them. For this alone a nomination is deserved.

There is a stat doing the rounds today that Tom O'Sullivan has kept Harte, Cillian O'Sullivan, Jamie Brennan, James Carr and Paul Kerrigan scoreless, while also scoring 1-3 himself.

On another note I'd say McNamee and McShane will get the FB and FF awards.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Angelo on August 14, 2019, 09:56:06 PM
McNamee and McShane should get two for Tyrone.

Durcan should be a shoe in for Mayo, not sure I can pinpoint another player for them, they had a lot of injuries and while AOS had a few great games he also had a few stinkers - he was terrible against Armagh, destroyed against Kerry and poor enough against Dublin.

Murphy will get one for Donegal, McHugh will probably miss out due to the no show against Mayo but was a cert up until then.

I'd say Kerry/Dublin will probably get 11 between them, I'd imagine 7/4 if it's within 6 points, 8/3 if it's a very comfortable Dublin win.

Keoghan is the only player outside the semi finalists and Donegal that I think would be deserving but I doubt he will get one.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: blast05 on August 14, 2019, 10:06:21 PM
Durcan should be a shoe in for Mayo, not sure I can pinpoint another player for them

I think most Mayo folk would argue Boyler us the shoe-in and Durkin the 'possible' selection
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Angelo on August 14, 2019, 10:26:05 PM
Durcan should be a shoe in for Mayo, not sure I can pinpoint another player for them

I think most Mayo folk would argue Boyler us the shoe-in and Durkin the 'possible' selection

Possibly but I think Durcan's performances on two of the top two players in the country in the past fortnight should have him a shoe in.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 15, 2019, 08:01:56 AM
McNamee and McShane should get two for Tyrone.

Durcan should be a shoe in for Mayo, not sure I can pinpoint another player for them, they had a lot of injuries and while AOS had a few great games he also had a few stinkers - he was terrible against Armagh, destroyed against Kerry and poor enough against Dublin.

Murphy will get one for Donegal, McHugh will probably miss out due to the no show against Mayo but was a cert up until then.

I'd say Kerry/Dublin will probably get 11 between them, I'd imagine 7/4 if it's within 6 points, 8/3 if it's a very comfortable Dublin win.

Keoghan is the only player outside the semi finalists and Donegal that I think would be deserving but I doubt he will get one.

Conor Cox surely, although he'll hardly get one either. Should get a nomination at least.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: BennyCake on August 15, 2019, 10:34:22 AM
Nominations are balls. It’s all to pacify the counties who had a decent enough summer and make them feel like they’re valued in this Dublin championship

Dublin will get about  7, Kerry 3, Tyrone/Mayo/Donegal maybe 1/2 each.

Token gesture nominations to Cavan, Roscommon, Cork, Kildare, Meath, Armagh etc, more so as a pat on the shoulder “of course we take an interest in matches before the semis” type of way.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Rossfan on August 15, 2019, 10:40:51 AM
Couldn't have put it better myself Benny.
I gave up on all this All Star nonsense 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Angelo on August 15, 2019, 10:44:43 AM
McNamee and McShane should get two for Tyrone.

Durcan should be a shoe in for Mayo, not sure I can pinpoint another player for them, they had a lot of injuries and while AOS had a few great games he also had a few stinkers - he was terrible against Armagh, destroyed against Kerry and poor enough against Dublin.

Murphy will get one for Donegal, McHugh will probably miss out due to the no show against Mayo but was a cert up until then.

I'd say Kerry/Dublin will probably get 11 between them, I'd imagine 7/4 if it's within 6 points, 8/3 if it's a very comfortable Dublin win.

Keoghan is the only player outside the semi finalists and Donegal that I think would be deserving but I doubt he will get one.

Conor Cox surely, although he'll hardly get one either. Should get a nomination at least.

Can't see Cox getting on. I'd say it will be McShane, Clifford and O'Callaghan in the FF line. Murphy and O'Brien in the half forward line with a spot up for grabs, Mannion or O'Callaghan might move out to the half forward line to fit everyone in.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: imtommygunn on August 15, 2019, 10:46:25 AM
I could be wrong on this but I don't think O'Brien is going to count in the final and this will go against him. Clifford I think will.

I was watching his goal again and the defending was very poor. Two maybe three tyrone men drawn to the ball leaving the space for him to run into right in front of goals. Dublin won't do something like that.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Hound on August 15, 2019, 11:48:05 AM
Con's wearing 11 most weeks, so even though he hasn't played half forward that'll be enough for the "selectors" to move him out there.

McShane plus at least 4 from Kerry and Dublin in the forwards (personally I think Mannion, Con, Clifford and O'Brien are almost certs). If performances in the final mean that 5 Dublin/Kerry forwards need to be picked (say massive games from Geaney, Kilkenny or Howard), then could Murphy be moved to midfield at the expense of AOS?
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: oakleaflad on August 15, 2019, 01:26:44 PM
My team:

Patton

McMenamin McNamee T O'Sullivan

McCaffrey Keoghan Durcan

Fenton Moran

Mannion Murphy O'Brien

Clifford McShane O'Callaghan


Dublin will get more than 4 though in reality. Cluxton will likely get one, possibly McCarthy at the expense of the excellent Keoghan and Fitzsimmons, Howard and Kilkenny won't be far away either. Boyle and Cox are two off the top of my head that would be unlucky also. I ended up with only 4 Dublin players and 3 from Donegal for example but just selected who I thought was best in each position, regardless of total numbers for each county. Mayo only had one despite getting to a AISF for example also.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on August 16, 2019, 08:06:37 AM
Cluxton
McMenamin-McNamee-???
Durcan-Boyle-McCaffrey
Fenton-Moran/Murphy
O’Shea-Con O’C- O’Brien
Clifford-McShane-Mannion

Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: square_ball on August 16, 2019, 08:20:43 AM
McNamee still 10/3 on PP for an all star. I wasn’t overly impressed with him this year but seems to be a big favourite on here.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2019, 08:36:16 AM
I don’t think he is as good as made out either. Still decent but not the best about or anything.

Not too many dubs on a lot of these teams.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: lenny on August 16, 2019, 08:52:18 AM
I could be wrong on this but I don't think O'Brien is going to count in the final and this will go against him. Clifford I think will.

I was watching his goal again and the defending was very poor. Two maybe three tyrone men drawn to the ball leaving the space for him to run into right in front of goals. Dublin won't do something like that.

Mcnamee was very poor for the o’brien goal. He’s ball watching and allows o’brien to make the run on his blindside. Very costly mistake and should cost him his all star also. I hope mcshane gets one but he’s got tough competition in geaney, clifford, o callaghan, mannion, cillian o’connor. If clifford, o callaghan and mannion all play well in the final they are likely to get the nod. In that case tyrone will likely get a token all star like donnelly or cavanagh.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: tonto1888 on August 16, 2019, 09:29:22 AM
I don’t think he is as good as made out either. Still decent but not the best about or anything.

Not too many dubs on a lot of these teams.

Who is a better full back than McNamee. As an Armagh man, I wish he was from Armagh.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2019, 09:43:18 AM
I wish he was from my county too. Maybe you have a point - I am not convinced he is as good as lauded but in terms of current full backs people like Harrison, McGee, Fitzsimmons etc the best probably and I suppose you could say he is as good as them. Kerry very weak in this area as we will probably see in the final.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 16, 2019, 11:18:49 AM
McNamee still 10/3 on PP for an all star. I wasn’t overly impressed with him this year but seems to be a big favourite on here.

No real stand outs at full-back this year probably gives him a chance.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Angelo on August 16, 2019, 03:17:41 PM
I could be wrong on this but I don't think O'Brien is going to count in the final and this will go against him. Clifford I think will.

I was watching his goal again and the defending was very poor. Two maybe three tyrone men drawn to the ball leaving the space for him to run into right in front of goals. Dublin won't do something like that.

Mcnamee was very poor for the o’brien goal. He’s ball watching and allows o’brien to make the run on his blindside. Very costly mistake and should cost him his all star also. I hope mcshane gets one but he’s got tough competition in geaney, clifford, o callaghan, mannion, cillian o’connor. If clifford, o callaghan and mannion all play well in the final they are likely to get the nod. In that case tyrone will likely get a token all star like donnelly or cavanagh.

For me you could blame five or six for that goal. McKernan is in the perfect spot to hold his position but he goes rushing out with Harte to close down Geaney and the space opens up. We had enough bodies back there to ensure there was no goal chance. In any case Geaney looked to have overplayed the ball and was extremely lucky not to be pulled.

McNamee should also have tracked the run. But likewise players should have been smart enough to plug the gap. It's a consistent failing with McKernan, he has cost us at least three goals in Championship since last year's All Ireland final with rushing in on the man at the ball and no regard to the danger behind. He's a great engine and is very tough but he's too raw for this level right now IMO.

Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Maroon Manc on August 16, 2019, 03:20:40 PM
I don’t think he is as good as made out either. Still decent but not the best about or anything.

Not too many dubs on a lot of these teams.

Who is a better full back than McNamee. As an Armagh man, I wish he was from Armagh.

I can't think of any top class fullback with any county.

Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: theticklemister on August 16, 2019, 04:25:37 PM
I don’t think he is as good as made out either. Still decent but not the best about or anything.

Not too many dubs on a lot of these teams.

Who is a better full back than McNamee. As an Armagh man, I wish he was from Armagh.

I can't think of any top class fullback with any county.

The style of football has changed. No more long high balls into the square where the bear-like full back tears out with the ball.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: TabClear on August 16, 2019, 05:10:03 PM
I don’t think he is as good as made out either. Still decent but not the best about or anything.

Not too many dubs on a lot of these teams.

Who is a better full back than McNamee. As an Armagh man, I wish he was from Armagh.

I can't think of any top class fullback with any county.

Its a role that has changed massively since the introduction of the sweeper. Used to be one of the most important positions on the pitch. Had to be strong, good under the high ball, quick and able to defend from infront with forwards leading both directions. I remember an old (school) manager of mine roaring at the corner backs that they only had to run one way i.e towards the sideline. If a corner forward won a ball inside they were liable to to hooked! ;D

Darren Fay was probably the best I remember watching live. Owens from Fermanagh was excellent over an extended period as well and I think Seamus Moynihan had a couple of outstanding seasons when he didnt play CHB but I would be hard pushed to name many specialist full backs at that level more recently.

The modern game means that the FB is just another defender who's primary aim is to stand the forward up until the blanket arrives and then support the runners out of defense. Interesting that Kerry defense struggled badly against McShane's more traditional Full Forward approach for long periods last week.

Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2019, 05:12:40 PM
I would have said the same of Tyrone when Walsh came on.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: tonto1888 on August 16, 2019, 05:41:35 PM
I don’t think he is as good as made out either. Still decent but not the best about or anything.

Not too many dubs on a lot of these teams.

Who is a better full back than McNamee. As an Armagh man, I wish he was from Armagh.

I can't think of any top class fullback with any county.

There may not be any but for me McNamee is the best of what there is
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: TabClear on August 16, 2019, 05:48:44 PM
I would have said the same of Tyrone when Walsh came on.

If you mean the Tyrone struggled badly at full back after TW came on fair point, they absolutely did. It would make you wonder if there is something to be said for old school tactics!  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2019, 09:47:05 PM
Imo Walsh turned that game. Can’t kick a ball any more but can win it and lay it off well. If Tyrone were prepared I think they’d have had a way to cut it out but caught them cold. All depends what players you have available whether it would work or not.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Angelo on August 16, 2019, 09:57:41 PM
Imo Walsh turned that game. Can’t kick a ball any more but can win it and lay it off well. If Tyrone were prepared I think they’d have had a way to cut it out but caught them cold. All depends what players you have available whether it would work or not.

He certainly made a huge chance but Deegan had changed the flow of the game at that point, Tyrone should have been 6 or 7 up and it's a different game then.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2019, 10:00:23 PM
Imo Walsh turned that game. Can’t kick a ball any more but can win it and lay it off well. If Tyrone were prepared I think they’d have had a way to cut it out but caught them cold. All depends what players you have available whether it would work or not.

He certainly made a huge chance but Deegan had changed the flow of the game at that point, Tyrone should have been 6 or 7 up and it's a different game then.

 ;D

Tyrone really struggled with him anything to do with reffing aside though. he really can’t kick a ball any more though.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Angelo on August 16, 2019, 10:38:30 PM
Imo Walsh turned that game. Can’t kick a ball any more but can win it and lay it off well. If Tyrone were prepared I think they’d have had a way to cut it out but caught them cold. All depends what players you have available whether it would work or not.

He certainly made a huge chance but Deegan had changed the flow of the game at that point, Tyrone should have been 6 or 7 up and it's a different game then.


 ;D

Tyrone really struggled with him anything to do with reffing aside though. he really can’t kick a ball any more though.

They did, Hampsey has been struggling all year with an injury and picked him up, perhaps we should have had Colm Cavanagh pick him up.

Bar Hampsey and McNamee we don't really have many other physical markers and it's something Harte will need to be looking at in the coming weeks at club championship, our other defensive alternatives in the squad like McLaughlin, Rafferty, B Burns and HP McGeary aren't the biggest.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2019, 07:36:19 AM
Yeah you do miss big joe or Justin McMahon at times like that.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: tonto1888 on August 17, 2019, 08:27:54 AM
Imo Walsh turned that game. Can’t kick a ball any more but can win it and lay it off well. If Tyrone were prepared I think they’d have had a way to cut it out but caught them cold. All depends what players you have available whether it would work or not.

He certainly made a huge chance but Deegan had changed the flow of the game at that point, Tyrone should have been 6 or 7 up and it's a different game then.

Maybe you should look at the misses from easy chances by McShane, Donnelly and Sludden. And the fact a loose pass from your number 6 led directly to the Kerry goal.  There’s a 6 point swing right there
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Angelo on August 17, 2019, 10:11:54 AM
Imo Walsh turned that game. Can’t kick a ball any more but can win it and lay it off well. If Tyrone were prepared I think they’d have had a way to cut it out but caught them cold. All depends what players you have available whether it would work or not.

He certainly made a huge chance but Deegan had changed the flow of the game at that point, Tyrone should have been 6 or 7 up and it's a different game then.


Maybe you should look at the misses from easy chances by McShane, Donnelly and Sludden. And the fact a loose pass from your number 6 led directly to the Kerry goal.  There’s a 6 point swing right there

I fee like I'm consistently having to repeat myself.

I have looked at that, countless times including my first contributions after the game I have said we have ourselves to blame, we crumbled in the major part of the game, our misses and mistakes and crucial stages cost us. It's not the first time it has happened and this group have to look at themselves in this regard. Tyrone have themselves to blame in that regard.

There's two independent points here - one how Tyrone managed to throw that game away, covered above.

The second is Maurice Deegan and how he kept Kerry in that match when they were struggling badly. Apparently you feel that because Tyrone made mistakes and wilted near the end that means it should quash any scrutiny over some disgraceful and completely irrational decision making from Deegan that consistently benefitted one side for 70 minutes You seem to be saying that as long as the other side makes some mistakes then it's ok not to look at Deegan.

Kerry made some atrocious errors in the first half, Tyrone went in with a 4 point lead after completely dominating it, the second half started in a similar manner, Tyrone were well on top of it for the first 20 minutes of the first half but the gap had actually narrowed to 2 points rather than extend out further, all down to Maurice Deegan and when Kerry really got on top in the last 15 minutes, Deegan's performance for Kerry did not drop one bit.

It's not sour grapes about the defeat, there's only 2 times in the past 5 campaigns I would have had serious grievances with a refereeing performance in a Tyrone defeat, both Maurice Deegan, both against Kerry and both decisive for Kerry.

The worst refereeing performances we've had this year (prior to Sunday) have been in games we won, I thought we were badly done in both the Cavan and Roscommon games this year, I would have said as much after even though we won comfortably. We were well beaten by Donegal in Ulster this year, I had no real complaints about the referee, Peter Harte got an incorrect black card but it was an isolated mistake which I can appreciate and understand happen in matches.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: tonto1888 on August 17, 2019, 12:06:25 PM
I agree that deegan is a poor ref. I have some complaints over his handling of our game against mayo but as with that day, Tyrone didn’t lose because of him but because of their own short comings.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Angelo on August 17, 2019, 02:01:45 PM
Tyrone didn’t lose because of him but because of their own short comings.

Tyrone may not have lost because of him but Kerry won because of him.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Rossfan on August 17, 2019, 02:23:20 PM
The Comedy continues.
I haven't laughed so much since I don't know when.
Keep it up Angelo ;D
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2019, 05:32:46 PM
Tyrone didn’t lose because of him but because of their own short comings.

Tyrone may not have lost because of him but Kerry won because of him.

 ;D

Is there any room on the referees assessor committee for you?
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: tonto1888 on August 17, 2019, 06:11:18 PM
Tyrone didn’t lose because of him but because of their own short comings.

Tyrone may not have lost because of him but Kerry won because of him.

Not at all. Kerry won because they were better second half while Tyrone crumbled
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Angelo on August 17, 2019, 08:45:39 PM
Tyrone didn’t lose because of him but because of their own short comings.

Tyrone may not have lost because of him but Kerry won because of him.

Not at all. Kerry won because they were better second half while Tyrone crumbled

Tyrone were the better teams for 50+ minutes of that game. Deegan ensured that Kerry stayed in touch in that period.

It's not that hard to grasp.

That does not mean Tyrone didn't not play their own role in losing that game, they were certainly architects for their own downfall but when Kerry were helped out massively by Deegan in their struggles in their first 50 minutes and that was pivotal.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2019, 09:19:08 PM
Everyone else doesn’t grasp it  ;D
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Rossfan on August 17, 2019, 09:21:39 PM
 ;D :D :) :D ;D
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Angelo on August 18, 2019, 09:25:04 AM
Everyone else doesn’t grasp it  ;D

Only those with closed minds.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: imtommygunn on August 18, 2019, 11:34:50 AM
 ;D
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_foil_hat (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_foil_hat)
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on September 04, 2019, 06:10:06 PM
Don’t envy whoever is gonna be picking the forward line. Clifford, SOS, COC, McShane, Mannion, Murphy, O’Brien, Rock, Howard, Scully. Who the F misses out?
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: BennyCake on September 04, 2019, 06:49:14 PM
Don’t envy whoever is gonna be picking the forward line. Clifford, SOS, COC, McShane, Mannion, Murphy, O’Brien, Rock, Howard, Scully. Who the F misses out?

Out I reckon - COC, O’Brien, Scully and howard
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on September 04, 2019, 06:55:51 PM
Don’t envy whoever is gonna be picking the forward line. Clifford, SOS, COC, McShane, Mannion, Murphy, O’Brien, Rock, Howard, Scully. Who the F misses out?

Out I reckon - COC, O’Brien, Scully and howard
Hard to call. Con and O’Brien had massive semi finals and quiet finals, while Howard was excellent on Sunday. Will all depend on replay I suppose.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: shyted on September 04, 2019, 09:54:50 PM
think howard looking like a certainty but prob in the backline
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on September 04, 2019, 10:16:02 PM
think howard looking like a certainty but prob in the backline
Where? Durcan, McCaffrey and Boyle all need to get one imo.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on September 04, 2019, 10:56:42 PM
think howard looking like a certainty but prob in the backline
Where? Durcan, McCaffrey and Boyle all need to get one imo.

Howard should get in ahead of Boyle.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: moysider on September 04, 2019, 11:35:11 PM

Nah. Boyle a nailed on cert.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Ball Hopper on September 05, 2019, 12:43:17 AM
Serious competition among the forwards. 

Tyrone full forward loses out, but the full back gets in as a semi-final team must get one All Star?
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 05, 2019, 01:37:48 AM
Serious competition among the forwards. 

Tyrone full forward loses out, but the full back gets in as a semi-final team must get one All Star?
At 1/33 its doubtful if he loses out.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: tonto1888 on September 05, 2019, 06:04:12 AM
Don’t envy whoever is gonna be picking the forward line. Clifford, SOS, COC, McShane, Mannion, Murphy, O’Brien, Rock, Howard, Scully. Who the F misses out?

Out I reckon - COC, O’Brien, Scully and howard

I had COC as a very before the final. A big game in the replay and he may well be one again
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: nrico2006 on September 05, 2019, 08:28:34 AM
Serious competition among the forwards. 

Tyrone full forward loses out, but the full back gets in as a semi-final team must get one All Star?

McShane is a cert, is he not the top scorer in the championship too?
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: oliverkelly on September 05, 2019, 08:52:41 AM
Don’t envy whoever is gonna be picking the forward line. Clifford, SOS, COC, McShane, Mannion, Murphy, O’Brien, Rock, Howard, Scully. Who the F misses out?

SOS deserves one after Sunday. Was best player in the league this year and had a decent championship up until Sunday where he was exceptional.
McShane
O'Brien
Mannion
COC
Clifford

No chance of Murphy getting for me. Was very good this year but Donegal went out too early and he hadnt his best game against Mayo. Kicked some very bad wides
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: rosnarun on September 05, 2019, 11:17:20 AM
Don’t envy whoever is gonna be picking the forward line. Clifford, SOS, COC, McShane, Mannion, Murphy, O’Brien, Rock, Howard, Scully. Who the F misses out?

Out I reckon - COC, O’Brien, Scully and howard

I had COC as a very before the final. A big game in the replay and he may well be one again

Depends on who wins
ConOC,  Mannion, Rock, Howard, Scully. will get them if dublin win , Clifford o Brien Sean o Sé geaney  will if Kerry do
not fair but that how the all starts normally go
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: oliverkelly on September 05, 2019, 11:30:09 AM
Geaney wont get one. Not a fear of it no matter what happens in the Final. Had a poor year
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: macdanger2 on September 05, 2019, 11:35:50 AM
Current odds with PP would say this is the team:

Cluxton
T O'Sullivan McCaffrey Durcan
McCarthy Fitzsimons Cooper/Boyle
Fenton Moran
McShane Clifford Callaghan
O'Brien Mannion Murphy

Dublin 7.5, Kerry 4, Mayo 1.5, Tyrone 1, Donegal 1

Obviously those odds will change after the replay but the ones in bold are nailed on imo. If Murphy misses out in the forwards, I presume McHugh or McMenamin (14/1) would get one for Donegal instead.


Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on September 05, 2019, 01:50:29 PM
Serious competition among the forwards. 

Tyrone full forward loses out, but the full back gets in as a semi-final team must get one All Star?
McShane deserves one for sure.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: blast05 on September 05, 2019, 01:57:43 PM
Current odds with PP would say this is the team:

Cluxton
T O'Sullivan McCaffrey Durcan
McCarthy Fitzsimons Cooper/Boyle
Fenton Moran
McShane Clifford Callaghan
O'Brien Mannion Murphy

Dublin 7.5, Kerry 4, Mayo 1.5, Tyrone 1, Donegal 1

Obviously those odds will change after the replay but the ones in bold are nailed on imo. If Murphy misses out in the forwards, I presume McHugh or McMenamin (14/1) would get one for Donegal instead.

Durcan in the corner despite putting in his performances at wing forward!
I can't for the life of me see how Cooper could be a 50/50 with Boyler.... but money talks i guess!
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: tonto1888 on September 05, 2019, 02:06:26 PM
Current odds with PP would say this is the team:

Cluxton
T O'Sullivan McCaffrey Durcan
McCarthy Fitzsimons Cooper/Boyle
Fenton Moran
McShane Clifford Callaghan
O'Brien Mannion Murphy

Dublin 7.5, Kerry 4, Mayo 1.5, Tyrone 1, Donegal 1

Obviously those odds will change after the replay but the ones in bold are nailed on imo. If Murphy misses out in the forwards, I presume McHugh or McMenamin (14/1) would get one for Donegal instead.

Durcan in the corner despite putting in his performances at wing forward!
I can't for the life of me see how Cooper  could be a 50/50 with Boyler.... but money talks i guess!

It looks like the fullback and half back lines are the wrong way round in that. Same with the forwards
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Ball Hopper on September 05, 2019, 02:42:05 PM
Serious competition among the forwards. 

Tyrone full forward loses out, but the full back gets in as a semi-final team must get one All Star?
McShane deserves one for sure.

No doubt McShane deserves one...but it is a crowded field of forwards all the same.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 05, 2019, 03:18:41 PM
Current odds with PP would say this is the team:

Cluxton
T O'Sullivan McCaffrey Durcan
McCarthy Fitzsimons Cooper/Boyle
Fenton Moran
McShane Clifford Callaghan
O'Brien Mannion Murphy

Dublin 7.5, Kerry 4, Mayo 1.5, Tyrone 1, Donegal 1

Obviously those odds will change after the replay but the ones in bold are nailed on imo. If Murphy misses out in the forwards, I presume McHugh or McMenamin (14/1) would get one for Donegal instead.

Sean O'Shea and Dean Rock have done their chances no harm with both scoring 0-10 in the final last Sunday, as said already Murphy is one forward that could miss out now.  Cooper has damaged his chance and more so if Jim Gavin decides to drop him for the replay.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: BennyCake on September 05, 2019, 03:26:47 PM
At the minute, I’d say it’s...

Murphy, S O’Shea, Mannion
Clifford, McShane, Rock
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: oliverkelly on September 05, 2019, 04:23:58 PM
At the minute, I’d say it’s...

Murphy, S O’Shea, Mannion
Clifford, McShane, Rock

Having Murphy and Rock in ahead of O'Brien is madness
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Blowitupref on September 05, 2019, 04:44:13 PM
SOS deserves one after Sunday. Was best player in the league this year and had a decent championship up until Sunday where he was exceptional.

He probably does. Between league and championship he's scored 2-98 that works out at 7 points per game. Not bad going for a player that is still only 21.

Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: macdanger2 on September 05, 2019, 05:19:38 PM
Current odds with PP would say this is the team:

Cluxton
T O'Sullivan McCaffrey Durcan
McCarthy Fitzsimons Cooper/Boyle
Fenton Moran
McShane Clifford Callaghan
O'Brien Mannion Murphy

Dublin 7.5, Kerry 4, Mayo 1.5, Tyrone 1, Donegal 1

Obviously those odds will change after the replay but the ones in bold are nailed on imo. If Murphy misses out in the forwards, I presume McHugh or McMenamin (14/1) would get one for Donegal instead.

Durcan in the corner despite putting in his performances at wing forward!
I can't for the life of me see how Cooper  could be a 50/50 with Boyler.... but money talks i guess!

It looks like the fullback and half back lines are the wrong way round in that. Same with the forwards

I put them up in order of increasing odds rather than positions. I think it's just 6 backs and 6 forwards now rather full and half lines
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: MC on September 05, 2019, 05:37:15 PM
All Stars always seems too coloured by which teams get to the final.

Probably need a better system of analysis - the Fink Tank and others used to do a soccer appraisal on players based on an analysis of every meaningful contribution they made over the course of the season.

The current All Stars selection punishes good players from the weaker counties!
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: BennyCake on September 05, 2019, 06:04:33 PM
At the minute, I’d say it’s...

Murphy, S O’Shea, Mannion
Clifford, McShane, Rock

Having Murphy and Rock in ahead of O'Brien is madness

I didn’t say I’d have them!  :P
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: J70 on September 05, 2019, 07:32:39 PM
At the minute, I’d say it’s...

Murphy, S O’Shea, Mannion
Clifford, McShane, Rock

Having Murphy and Rock in ahead of O'Brien is madness

Madness?? Hardly.

Debatable, yes, as is any selection.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on September 05, 2019, 08:46:43 PM
At the minute, I’d say it’s...

Murphy, S O’Shea, Mannion
Clifford, McShane, Rock
Con O’Callaghan ahead of Mannion for me, but O’Brien ahead of either. Would say a big replay from either if the first two and they’d pip Murphy.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: imtommygunn on September 05, 2019, 09:01:40 PM
I would say ahead of rock. Rock hasn’t played for half the year.

O’Callaghan may not have been quite as good last day but Kerry were panicking every time he got the ball and on another day I think he would have had a few goals.i would still expect big things from him in the replay.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: yellowcard on September 05, 2019, 10:14:11 PM
Current odds with PP would say this is the team:

Cluxton
T O'Sullivan McCaffrey Durcan
McCarthy Fitzsimons Cooper/Boyle
Fenton Moran
McShane Clifford Callaghan
O'Brien Mannion Murphy

Dublin 7.5, Kerry 4, Mayo 1.5, Tyrone 1, Donegal 1

Obviously those odds will change after the replay but the ones in bold are nailed on imo. If Murphy misses out in the forwards, I presume McHugh or McMenamin (14/1) would get one for Donegal instead.

Don’t understand Cooper odds at all. Has missed a large part of the season through injury, is already past his best, was in all sorts of difficulty before getting sent off on Sunday. If he hadn’t already credit built up from previous seasons he would be dropped from the Dublin team for the replay.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: macdanger2 on September 05, 2019, 10:59:42 PM
Current odds with PP would say this is the team:

Cluxton
T O'Sullivan McCaffrey Durcan
McCarthy Fitzsimons Cooper/Boyle
Fenton Moran
McShane Clifford Callaghan
O'Brien Mannion Murphy

Dublin 7.5, Kerry 4, Mayo 1.5, Tyrone 1, Donegal 1

Obviously those odds will change after the replay but the ones in bold are nailed on imo. If Murphy misses out in the forwards, I presume McHugh or McMenamin (14/1) would get one for Donegal instead.

Don’t understand Cooper odds at all. Has missed a large part of the season through injury, is already past his best, was in all sorts of difficulty before getting sent off on Sunday. If he hadn’t already credit built up from previous seasons he would be dropped from the Dublin team for the replay.

Yeah, Cooper is definitely the outlier in that bunch
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Estimator on September 15, 2019, 12:06:46 AM
Sunday Game Team of the Year.
1. Cluxton
2. Fitzsimmons
3. McNamee
4. O'Sullivan
5. Durcan
6. Boyle
7. McCaffrey
8. Fenton.
9. Moran
10. Murphy
11. O'Shea
12. Howard
13. Mannion
14. McShane
15. O'Callaghan

No room for Clifford!!
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 15, 2019, 12:21:45 AM
Clifford be ahead of COC, Murphy find it tight if he's not at midfield as OBrien or Howard be half forwards
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: fearsiuil on September 15, 2019, 02:52:31 AM
Sunday Game Team of the Year.
1. Cluxton
2. Fitzsimmons
3. McNamee
4. O'Sullivan
5. Durcan
6. Boyle
7. McCaffrey
8. Fenton.
9. Moran
10. Murphy
11. O'Shea
12. Howard
13. Mannion
14. McShane
15. O'Callaghan

No room for Clifford!!
Keine Fenton.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: imtommygunn on September 15, 2019, 08:08:41 AM
Clifford be ahead of COC, Murphy find it tight if he's not at midfield as OBrien or Howard be half forwards

Ahead of Mannion who’s very talented but frustrating. Him and coc two best in ff line.

No way Clifford not in best 15 of the year.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on September 15, 2019, 09:49:42 AM
over the years, the all Ireland winners, sometimes very ordinary teams, have dominated the all stars, winning a disproportionate 8 to 10 gongs.
this Dublin team winning a 5th in a row is unique and I think they will deserve at least 8 or 9 of the all stars.

contrasting versus the sunday game pick, I am certain James McCarthy will be chosen instead of Boyle in the backs.

I also fancy, 4 Dubs namely, Con O Call, Paul Mannion, Ciaran Kilkenny and Brian Howard will be selected in the forwards. 

To omit Kilkenny or Mannion after yesterday would be barmy. 
With Sean O Shea certain of another place in the forwards, that will leave the last position between Michael Murphy, McShane and Clifford.

Don't  be surprised if McShane does not make the cut, after all, he was on a team which won no silverware and he also buckled, missing some handy frees when that semi final was in the melting pot.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: BennyCake on September 15, 2019, 10:35:05 AM
McShane will get one. Token award for semi finalists. Murphy will get one too.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 15, 2019, 11:03:22 AM


Don't  be surprised if McShane does not make the cut, after all, he was on a team which won no silverware and he also buckled, missing some handy frees when that semi final was in the melting pot.
I'll be surprised if he doesn't win one. All Stars are meant to be individual awards and McShane has been one of the top six forwards this year.

He scored 0-7 in the AI semi final which was a more than decent return.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on September 15, 2019, 01:33:06 PM
From midfield on
Moran-Fenton
Howard-SOS-CoC
Clifford-McShane-Rock
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Angelo on September 15, 2019, 01:52:27 PM
over the years, the all Ireland winners, sometimes very ordinary teams, have dominated the all stars, winning a disproportionate 8 to 10 gongs.
this Dublin team winning a 5th in a row is unique and I think they will deserve at least 8 or 9 of the all stars.

contrasting versus the sunday game pick, I am certain James McCarthy will be chosen instead of Boyle in the backs.

I also fancy, 4 Dubs namely, Con O Call, Paul Mannion, Ciaran Kilkenny and Brian Howard will be selected in the forwards. 

To omit Kilkenny or Mannion after yesterday would be barmy. 
With Sean O Shea certain of another place in the forwards, that will leave the last position between Michael Murphy, McShane and Clifford.

Don't  be surprised if McShane does not make the cut, after all, he was on a team which won no silverware and he also buckled, missing some handy frees when that semi final was in the melting pot.

McShane is the top scorer in Championship this year and almost a one man band for a team that made the All Ireland semis. McNamee is the only other Tyrone player with a shout of one, I would say that Durcan will get one for Mayo and Murphy should get one for Donegal.

Other than that it will be Dublin and Kerry.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 15, 2019, 02:13:49 PM
Murphy will only get 1 if at midfield, why give him 1 in the forwards when he played about 30mins total up front all year
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Angelo on September 15, 2019, 02:32:31 PM
Murphy will only get 1 if at midfield, why give him 1 in the forwards when he played about 30mins total up front all year

He played most of his football around the half forward line this year.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on September 15, 2019, 10:31:58 PM
Murphy will only get 1 if at midfield, why give him 1 in the forwards when he played about 30mins total up front all year
Has to be Moran and Fenton at midfield not even a contest. Only non finalist in with a shout in the front 6 for me is McShane. Howard, Clifford, O’Shea, Mannion, O’Callaghan and Rock all would be ahead of Murphy for me.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: yellowcard on September 15, 2019, 11:49:07 PM
The competition for places in the forward line is much greater than in defence. Two or three forwards will be harshly left out since the calls are so marginal. I could see Murphy getting one at midfield, possibly ousting David Moran in the process although that could be deemed equally harsh on Moran.

 McShane is a cert and deservedly so whilst Durcan is a cert, they will be token awards for beaten semi finalists. Boyle and McNamee have outside chances but that says more about the dearth in top quality defenders this season since Boyle spent most of his season sweeping whilst McNamee had more protection than Fort Knox at times. McHugh had one in the bag until he was dominated by Durcan, could he possibly come back into the equation, I’m not sure. Keoghan from Meath would be another with an outside chance but it would be unusual for him to get it given that Meath only had fairly relative success. Cluxton for POTY and Howard/Clifford/Sean O’Shea for YPOTY.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: J70 on September 16, 2019, 11:58:40 AM
Murphy will only get 1 if at midfield, why give him 1 in the forwards when he played about 30mins total up front all year
Has to be Moran and Fenton at midfield not even a contest. Only non finalist in with a shout in the front 6 for me is McShane. Howard, Clifford, O’Shea, Mannion, O’Callaghan and Rock all would be ahead of Murphy for me.

Did you watch Murphy at all this year?

Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 16, 2019, 02:02:44 PM
Going by the Paddy power odds the All Stars will be

Stephen Cluxton
Micheal Fitzsimons Ronan McNamee Tom O'Sullivan
Paddy Durcan  James McCarthy Jack Mccaffrey
Brian Fenton David Moran
Con O'Callaghan Micheal Murphy Brian Howard or Sean O'Shea (both 5/6)
Paul Mannion Cathal McShane David Clifford.

Others that might sneak in for one.  Colm Boyle 13/8,David Byrne 7/2,Stephen O'Brien 5/4,Ciaran Kilkenny 2/1


Con O'Callaghan 4/7 to win footballer of the year. Cluxton is 2nd at 6/4 and Jack McCaffrey at 10/1
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: GetOverTheBar on September 16, 2019, 03:20:18 PM
Going by the Paddy power odds the All Stars will be

Stephen Cluxton
Micheal Fitzsimons Ronan McNamee Tom O'Sullivan
Paddy Durcan  James McCarthy Jack Mccaffrey
Brian Fenton David Moran
Con O'Callaghan Micheal Murphy Brian Howard or Sean O'Shea (both 5/6)
Paul Mannion Cathal McShane David Clifford.

Others that might sneak in for one.  Colm Boyle 13/8,David Byrne 7/2,Stephen O'Brien 5/4,Ciaran Kilkenny 2/1


Con O'Callaghan 4/7 to win footballer of the year. Cluxton is 2nd at 6/4 and Jack McCaffrey at 10/1

Probably hard to argue with the team above. I'm a Tyrone man, I don't understand why McNamee would be in team of the year personally - I'd say Ciaran Kilkenny is slightly hard done by if the above holds.

Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 16, 2019, 03:38:08 PM
Going by the Paddy power odds the All Stars will be

Stephen Cluxton
Micheal Fitzsimons Ronan McNamee Tom O'Sullivan
Paddy Durcan  James McCarthy Jack Mccaffrey
Brian Fenton David Moran
Con O'Callaghan Micheal Murphy Brian Howard or Sean O'Shea (both 5/6)
Paul Mannion Cathal McShane David Clifford.

Others that might sneak in for one.  Colm Boyle 13/8,David Byrne 7/2,Stephen O'Brien 5/4,Ciaran Kilkenny 2/1


Con O'Callaghan 4/7 to win footballer of the year. Cluxton is 2nd at 6/4 and Jack McCaffrey at 10/1

Probably hard to argue with the team above. I'm a Tyrone man, I don't understand why McNamee would be in team of the year personally - I'd say Ciaran Kilkenny is slightly hard done by if the above holds.

Probably because of the lack of stand out full backs this year? Kilkenny's display in the replay has helped his chances.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: nrico2006 on September 16, 2019, 04:11:07 PM
Does Con O'Callaghan deserve POTY?
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: imtommygunn on September 16, 2019, 04:12:50 PM
I would say so. I think Fenton, McCaffrey and him would have been contenders. Fenton's final showings probably dropped him off a bit.

In fact I would say he's maybe second choice behind McCaffrey though he was quiet saturday before coming off.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Hound on September 16, 2019, 04:35:00 PM
I hope Cluxton gets it.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: bcarrier on September 16, 2019, 05:05:52 PM
I hope Cluxton gets it.

Just give him player of the decade.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on September 16, 2019, 06:00:12 PM
Cluxton POTY for me. I’d also have Rock ahead of Mannion, his performance in first final was absolutely fantastic. Cliifford and O’Shea nailed on.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 16, 2019, 06:06:26 PM
I hope Cluxton gets it.

Just give him player of the decade.

Hard to believe that this will only be his 3rd All star this decade and his first since 2013.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: lenny on September 16, 2019, 08:25:05 PM
Going by the Paddy power odds the All Stars will be

Stephen Cluxton
Micheal Fitzsimons Ronan McNamee Tom O'Sullivan
Paddy Durcan  James McCarthy Jack Mccaffrey
Brian Fenton David Moran
Con O'Callaghan Micheal Murphy Brian Howard or Sean O'Shea (both 5/6)
Paul Mannion Cathal McShane David Clifford.

Others that might sneak in for one.  Colm Boyle 13/8,David Byrne 7/2,Stephen O'Brien 5/4,Ciaran Kilkenny 2/1


Con O'Callaghan 4/7 to win footballer of the year. Cluxton is 2nd at 6/4 and Jack McCaffrey at 10/1

Probably hard to argue with the team above. I'm a Tyrone man, I don't understand why McNamee would be in team of the year personally - I'd say Ciaran Kilkenny is slightly hard done by if the above holds.

If a Tyrone man deserves one it has to be Mc Shane. I would hate to see them giving a token one to Tyrone in the shape of mcnamee and Mc Shane missing out which could happen. Mcnamee has been average enough, there’s got to be better candidates. Fitzsimons and O’sullivan look nailed on in the full back line. You could maybe see a half back named in the full back line like keogan from Meath who was superb this year. McCaffrey and durcan are certs.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on September 16, 2019, 08:37:54 PM
I hope Cluxton gets it.

Just give him player of the decade.

Hard to believe that this will only be his 3rd All star this decade and his first since 2013.
Are ye for real? That really is mad if its true.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Hound on September 16, 2019, 08:44:18 PM
I hope Cluxton gets it.

Just give him player of the decade.

Hard to believe that this will only be his 3rd All star this decade and his first since 2013.
Are ye for real? That really is mad if its true.
2002, 2006, 2007, 2011, 2013.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: From the Bunker on September 16, 2019, 08:50:46 PM
I hope Cluxton gets it.

Just give him player of the decade.

Hard to believe that this will only be his 3rd All star this decade and his first since 2013.
Are ye for real? That really is mad if its true.
2002, 2006, 2007, 2011, 2013.

He has to have the record for Leinster Senior Football medals at 15.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on September 16, 2019, 08:57:15 PM
I hope Cluxton gets it.

Just give him player of the decade.

Hard to believe that this will only be his 3rd All star this decade and his first since 2013.
Are ye for real? That really is mad if its true.
2002, 2006, 2007, 2011, 2013.

He has to have the record for Leinster Senior Football medals at 15.
Jaysus. Knew Beggan got it last year and Clarke has one or two. Cluxtons this year without a doubt though.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on September 17, 2019, 11:51:26 AM
with reference to the chances of Ciaran Kilkenny winning an All Star.

Can anyone detail the last year when a player was Man Of the Match in an All Ireland Final and failed to win an All Star in that given year?.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: seafoid on September 17, 2019, 12:04:04 PM
with reference to the chances of Ciaran Kilkenny winning an All Star.

Can anyone detail the last year when a player was Man Of the Match in an All Ireland Final and failed to win an All Star in that given year?.
Brian Whelehan missed out in 1998 I think
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Niall Quinn on September 17, 2019, 12:06:08 PM
John Small / Michael Fitzsimons (replay) in 2016.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: imtommygunn on September 17, 2019, 12:06:26 PM
Is there a wiki anywhere with MOTM winners?

I would say the two finals will have boys who were MOTM and not all stars this year.

Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: GetOverTheBar on September 17, 2019, 12:20:55 PM
Going by the Paddy power odds the All Stars will be

Stephen Cluxton
Micheal Fitzsimons Ronan McNamee Tom O'Sullivan
Paddy Durcan  James McCarthy Jack Mccaffrey
Brian Fenton David Moran
Con O'Callaghan Micheal Murphy Brian Howard or Sean O'Shea (both 5/6)
Paul Mannion Cathal McShane David Clifford.

Others that might sneak in for one.  Colm Boyle 13/8,David Byrne 7/2,Stephen O'Brien 5/4,Ciaran Kilkenny 2/1


Con O'Callaghan 4/7 to win footballer of the year. Cluxton is 2nd at 6/4 and Jack McCaffrey at 10/1

Probably hard to argue with the team above. I'm a Tyrone man, I don't understand why McNamee would be in team of the year personally - I'd say Ciaran Kilkenny is slightly hard done by if the above holds.

If a Tyrone man deserves one it has to be Mc Shane. I would hate to see them giving a token one to Tyrone in the shape of mcnamee and Mc Shane missing out which could happen. Mcnamee has been average enough, there’s got to be better candidates. Fitzsimons and O’sullivan look nailed on in the full back line. You could maybe see a half back named in the full back line like keogan from Meath who was superb this year. McCaffrey and durcan are certs.

Hard to argue with that reasoning. Sometimes these All Stars are given out kinda because you have to involve the other counties that don't contest the final - think that would be the case with McNamee. McShane certainly deserves his award.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Taylor on September 17, 2019, 12:56:26 PM
The problem with picking the full back line is the amount of protection they get in the form of other players.

Rarely is anyone in the full back line exposed and they normally have the protection of at least 1 sweeper.

I too am confused at McNamee being favourite for one. He has been decent but only one Tyrone player deserves an AS this year
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: greatpoint on September 18, 2019, 04:18:56 PM
How did McNamee perform against Donegal, Dublin, Kerry?
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Norf Tyrone on September 18, 2019, 05:31:03 PM
When is the awards?

Am I right in saying there is only one of hurling or football on TV live every year?
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: magpie seanie on September 18, 2019, 06:11:18 PM
Personally think it would be insane not to have Ciaran Kilkenny in the team of the year. I'd have him a strong contender for Footballer of the Year also. Also not entirely convinced Fenton gets an allstar - he had two of his worst games ever in the two finals (high bar but still). That said I can't think of a midfielder that deserves one over him bar Moran perhaps. There's always a bit of a fudge and they might drop Murphy or Howard into midfield and leave McShane out. Below is harsh on McShane and Fenton but in my opinion is fairer overall.....couldn't have Kilkenny or one of Howard/Seán O'Shea missing out either.

                 Cluxton
Fitzsimons   McNamee    O'Sullivan
Durcan    McCarthy    McCaffrey
        Howard        Moran
M Murphy    Kilkenny    Sean O'Shea   
Mannion  Con O'Callaghan  Clifford

Dubs 8, Kerry 4, Mayo 1, Donegal 1, Tyrone 1.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on September 18, 2019, 07:54:56 PM
Personally think it would be insane not to have Ciaran Kilkenny in the team of the year. I'd have him a strong contender for Footballer of the Year also. Also not entirely convinced Fenton gets an allstar - he had two of his worst games ever in the two finals (high bar but still). That said I can't think of a midfielder that deserves one over him bar Moran perhaps. There's always a bit of a fudge and they might drop Murphy or Howard into midfield and leave McShane out. Below is harsh on McShane and Fenton but in my opinion is fairer overall.....couldn't have Kilkenny or one of Howard/Seán O'Shea missing out either.

                 Cluxton
Fitzsimons   McNamee    O'Sullivan
Durcan    McCarthy    McCaffrey
        Howard        Moran
M Murphy    Kilkenny    Sean O'Shea   
Mannion  Con O'Callaghan  Clifford

Dubs 8, Kerry 4, Mayo 1, Donegal 1, Tyrone 1.
Fenton is nailed on. McShane and Rock ahead of Kilkenny and Mannion too. Howard into half forward with Murphy missing out.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: J70 on September 18, 2019, 08:08:40 PM
Personally think it would be insane not to have Ciaran Kilkenny in the team of the year. I'd have him a strong contender for Footballer of the Year also. Also not entirely convinced Fenton gets an allstar - he had two of his worst games ever in the two finals (high bar but still). That said I can't think of a midfielder that deserves one over him bar Moran perhaps. There's always a bit of a fudge and they might drop Murphy or Howard into midfield and leave McShane out. Below is harsh on McShane and Fenton but in my opinion is fairer overall.....couldn't have Kilkenny or one of Howard/Seán O'Shea missing out either.

                 Cluxton
Fitzsimons   McNamee    O'Sullivan
Durcan    McCarthy    McCaffrey
        Howard        Moran
M Murphy    Kilkenny    Sean O'Shea   
Mannion  Con O'Callaghan  Clifford

Dubs 8, Kerry 4, Mayo 1, Donegal 1, Tyrone 1.
Fenton is nailed on. McShane and Rock ahead of Kilkenny and Mannion too. Howard into half forward with Murphy missing out.

Murphy will get one. Arguably his best ever season. You rarely see players completely dominating championship matches like he did for large stretches of the summer.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: nrico2006 on September 18, 2019, 08:41:29 PM
M Shane was the best forward in the championship this year. As for final man of the matches not getting All Stars, was it Hughes in 2003 and McGuigan in 2005 that won man of the match in each of those finals? Neither got an all star though.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on September 18, 2019, 09:01:18 PM
Personally think it would be insane not to have Ciaran Kilkenny in the team of the year. I'd have him a strong contender for Footballer of the Year also. Also not entirely convinced Fenton gets an allstar - he had two of his worst games ever in the two finals (high bar but still). That said I can't think of a midfielder that deserves one over him bar Moran perhaps. There's always a bit of a fudge and they might drop Murphy or Howard into midfield and leave McShane out. Below is harsh on McShane and Fenton but in my opinion is fairer overall.....couldn't have Kilkenny or one of Howard/Seán O'Shea missing out either.

                 Cluxton
Fitzsimons   McNamee    O'Sullivan
Durcan    McCarthy    McCaffrey
        Howard        Moran
M Murphy    Kilkenny    Sean O'Shea   
Mannion  Con O'Callaghan  Clifford

Dubs 8, Kerry 4, Mayo 1, Donegal 1, Tyrone 1.
Fenton is nailed on. McShane and Rock ahead of Kilkenny and Mannion too. Howard into half forward with Murphy missing out.

Murphy will get one. Arguably his best ever season. You rarely see players completely dominating championship matches like he did for large stretches of the summer.
Where though? Both midfielders are a cert and theres at least 6 forwards from Dublin and Kerry more deserving, plus McShane.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Angelo on September 18, 2019, 10:10:34 PM
Personally think it would be insane not to have Ciaran Kilkenny in the team of the year. I'd have him a strong contender for Footballer of the Year also. Also not entirely convinced Fenton gets an allstar - he had two of his worst games ever in the two finals (high bar but still). That said I can't think of a midfielder that deserves one over him bar Moran perhaps. There's always a bit of a fudge and they might drop Murphy or Howard into midfield and leave McShane out. Below is harsh on McShane and Fenton but in my opinion is fairer overall.....couldn't have Kilkenny or one of Howard/Seán O'Shea missing out either.

                 Cluxton
Fitzsimons   McNamee    O'Sullivan
Durcan    McCarthy    McCaffrey
        Howard        Moran
M Murphy    Kilkenny    Sean O'Shea   
Mannion  Con O'Callaghan  Clifford

Dubs 8, Kerry 4, Mayo 1, Donegal 1, Tyrone 1.
Fenton is nailed on. McShane and Rock ahead of Kilkenny and Mannion too. Howard into half forward with Murphy missing out.

Murphy will get one. Arguably his best ever season. You rarely see players completely dominating championship matches like he did for large stretches of the summer.
Where though? Both midfielders are a cert and theres at least 6 forwards from Dublin and Kerry more deserving, plus McShane.

Can't agree.

Murphy deserves one. He was outstanding throughout the Championship, his display against Kerry in the Super 8s was the best individual display in the season. He should be nailed on for one at 11.

For me it would be:

Howard Murphy O'Brien
Clifford McShane O'Callaghan
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Nanderson on September 18, 2019, 10:26:52 PM
Personally think it would be insane not to have Ciaran Kilkenny in the team of the year. I'd have him a strong contender for Footballer of the Year also. Also not entirely convinced Fenton gets an allstar - he had two of his worst games ever in the two finals (high bar but still). That said I can't think of a midfielder that deserves one over him bar Moran perhaps. There's always a bit of a fudge and they might drop Murphy or Howard into midfield and leave McShane out. Below is harsh on McShane and Fenton but in my opinion is fairer overall.....couldn't have Kilkenny or one of Howard/Seán O'Shea missing out either.

                 Cluxton
Fitzsimons   McNamee    O'Sullivan
Durcan    McCarthy    McCaffrey
        Howard        Moran
M Murphy    Kilkenny    Sean O'Shea   
Mannion  Con O'Callaghan  Clifford

Dubs 8, Kerry 4, Mayo 1, Donegal 1, Tyrone 1.
Fenton is nailed on. McShane and Rock ahead of Kilkenny and Mannion too. Howard into half forward with Murphy missing out.

Murphy will get one. Arguably his best ever season. You rarely see players completely dominating championship matches like he did for large stretches of the summer.
Where though? Both midfielders are a cert and theres at least 6 forwards from Dublin and Kerry more deserving, plus McShane.

Can't agree.

Murphy deserves one. He was outstanding throughout the Championship, his display against Kerry in the Super 8s was the best individual display in the season. He should be nailed on for one at 11.

For me it would be:

Howard Murphy O'Brien
Clifford McShane O'Callaghan
O'Shea is a nailed on All Star. Won the sigerson with UCC as top scorer, 2nd top scorer in National League with Kerry finishing runners up, Munster winner and All Ireland finalist, 2nd top scorer in the Championship playing 2 less games than McShane and produced 2 good displays in both finals
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 18, 2019, 10:38:36 PM
Personally think it would be insane not to have Ciaran Kilkenny in the team of the year. I'd have him a strong contender for Footballer of the Year also. Also not entirely convinced Fenton gets an allstar - he had two of his worst games ever in the two finals (high bar but still). That said I can't think of a midfielder that deserves one over him bar Moran perhaps. There's always a bit of a fudge and they might drop Murphy or Howard into midfield and leave McShane out. Below is harsh on McShane and Fenton but in my opinion is fairer overall.....couldn't have Kilkenny or one of Howard/Seán O'Shea missing out either.

                 Cluxton
Fitzsimons   McNamee    O'Sullivan
Durcan    McCarthy    McCaffrey
        Howard        Moran
M Murphy    Kilkenny    Sean O'Shea   
Mannion  Con O'Callaghan  Clifford

Dubs 8, Kerry 4, Mayo 1, Donegal 1, Tyrone 1.
Fenton is nailed on. McShane and Rock ahead of Kilkenny and Mannion too. Howard into half forward with Murphy missing out.

Murphy will get one. Arguably his best ever season. You rarely see players completely dominating championship matches like he did for large stretches of the summer.
Where though? Both midfielders are a cert and theres at least 6 forwards from Dublin and Kerry more deserving, plus McShane.

Can't agree.

Murphy deserves one. He was outstanding throughout the Championship, his display against Kerry in the Super 8s was the best individual display in the season. He should be nailed on for one at 11.

For me it would be:

Howard Murphy O'Brien
Clifford McShane O'Callaghan
O'Shea is a nailed on All Star. Won the sigerson with UCC as top scorer, 2nd top scorer in National League with Kerry finishing runners up, Munster winner and All Ireland finalist, 2nd top scorer in the Championship playing 2 less games than McShane and produced 2 good displays in both finals

Not nailed on going by the odds but he should be getting one before his Kerry team mate O'Brien.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 18, 2019, 11:13:37 PM
O'Brien was one of the best forwards in the championship to and was talked about player of the Yr b4 the final. 2 underpar performances might see him miss out on a all star
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on September 19, 2019, 01:26:53 PM
Sean O’Shea has got to win one. His performance in first final was one of the best all year.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Angelo on September 19, 2019, 03:49:14 PM
Sean O’Shea has got to win one. His performance in first final was one of the best all year.

He had a great game in the drawn final but he wasn't even the best player on the pitch. I think O'Brien had a better Championship from the games I saw. I think Murphy is more deserving of one this year than both of them though. There's a lot of competition in the forward line.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Angelo on September 19, 2019, 03:51:38 PM
Personally think it would be insane not to have Ciaran Kilkenny in the team of the year. I'd have him a strong contender for Footballer of the Year also. Also not entirely convinced Fenton gets an allstar - he had two of his worst games ever in the two finals (high bar but still). That said I can't think of a midfielder that deserves one over him bar Moran perhaps. There's always a bit of a fudge and they might drop Murphy or Howard into midfield and leave McShane out. Below is harsh on McShane and Fenton but in my opinion is fairer overall.....couldn't have Kilkenny or one of Howard/Seán O'Shea missing out either.

                 Cluxton
Fitzsimons   McNamee    O'Sullivan
Durcan    McCarthy    McCaffrey
        Howard        Moran
M Murphy    Kilkenny    Sean O'Shea   
Mannion  Con O'Callaghan  Clifford

Dubs 8, Kerry 4, Mayo 1, Donegal 1, Tyrone 1.
Fenton is nailed on. McShane and Rock ahead of Kilkenny and Mannion too. Howard into half forward with Murphy missing out.

Murphy will get one. Arguably his best ever season. You rarely see players completely dominating championship matches like he did for large stretches of the summer.
Where though? Both midfielders are a cert and theres at least 6 forwards from Dublin and Kerry more deserving, plus McShane.

Can't agree.

Murphy deserves one. He was outstanding throughout the Championship, his display against Kerry in the Super 8s was the best individual display in the season. He should be nailed on for one at 11.

For me it would be:

Howard Murphy O'Brien
Clifford McShane O'Callaghan
O'Shea is a nailed on All Star. Won the sigerson with UCC as top scorer, 2nd top scorer in National League with Kerry finishing runners up, Munster winner and All Ireland finalist, 2nd top scorer in the Championship playing 2 less games than McShane and produced 2 good displays in both finals

1 less game than McShane and he got much more of his scores from placed balls than McShane.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on September 19, 2019, 05:39:40 PM
Personally think it would be insane not to have Ciaran Kilkenny in the team of the year. I'd have him a strong contender for Footballer of the Year also. Also not entirely convinced Fenton gets an allstar - he had two of his worst games ever in the two finals (high bar but still). That said I can't think of a midfielder that deserves one over him bar Moran perhaps. There's always a bit of a fudge and they might drop Murphy or Howard into midfield and leave McShane out. Below is harsh on McShane and Fenton but in my opinion is fairer overall.....couldn't have Kilkenny or one of Howard/Seán O'Shea missing out either.

                 Cluxton
Fitzsimons   McNamee    O'Sullivan
Durcan    McCarthy    McCaffrey
        Howard        Moran
M Murphy    Kilkenny    Sean O'Shea   
Mannion  Con O'Callaghan  Clifford

Dubs 8, Kerry 4, Mayo 1, Donegal 1, Tyrone 1.
Fenton is nailed on. McShane and Rock ahead of Kilkenny and Mannion too. Howard into half forward with Murphy missing out.

Murphy will get one. Arguably his best ever season. You rarely see players completely dominating championship matches like he did for large stretches of the summer.
Where though? Both midfielders are a cert and theres at least 6 forwards from Dublin and Kerry more deserving, plus McShane.

Can't agree.

Murphy deserves one. He was outstanding throughout the Championship, his display against Kerry in the Super 8s was the best individual display in the season. He should be nailed on for one at 11.

For me it would be:

Howard Murphy O'Brien
Clifford McShane O'Callaghan
O'Shea is a nailed on All Star. Won the sigerson with UCC as top scorer, 2nd top scorer in National League with Kerry finishing runners up, Munster winner and All Ireland finalist, 2nd top scorer in the Championship playing 2 less games than McShane and produced 2 good displays in both finals

1 less game than McShane and he got much more of his scores from placed balls than McShane.
Whats the placed ball argument got to do with anything? All count the same. If McShane was as accurate as SoS Tyrone might have beat Kerry. (Thats not a slight on McShane btw who I really rate, but O’Shea on different level)
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Angelo on September 19, 2019, 08:59:14 PM
Personally think it would be insane not to have Ciaran Kilkenny in the team of the year. I'd have him a strong contender for Footballer of the Year also. Also not entirely convinced Fenton gets an allstar - he had two of his worst games ever in the two finals (high bar but still). That said I can't think of a midfielder that deserves one over him bar Moran perhaps. There's always a bit of a fudge and they might drop Murphy or Howard into midfield and leave McShane out. Below is harsh on McShane and Fenton but in my opinion is fairer overall.....couldn't have Kilkenny or one of Howard/Seán O'Shea missing out either.

                 Cluxton
Fitzsimons   McNamee    O'Sullivan
Durcan    McCarthy    McCaffrey
        Howard        Moran
M Murphy    Kilkenny    Sean O'Shea   
Mannion  Con O'Callaghan  Clifford

Dubs 8, Kerry 4, Mayo 1, Donegal 1, Tyrone 1.
Fenton is nailed on. McShane and Rock ahead of Kilkenny and Mannion too. Howard into half forward with Murphy missing out.

Murphy will get one. Arguably his best ever season. You rarely see players completely dominating championship matches like he did for large stretches of the summer.
Where though? Both midfielders are a cert and theres at least 6 forwards from Dublin and Kerry more deserving, plus McShane.

Can't agree.

Murphy deserves one. He was outstanding throughout the Championship, his display against Kerry in the Super 8s was the best individual display in the season. He should be nailed on for one at 11.

For me it would be:

Howard Murphy O'Brien
Clifford McShane O'Callaghan
O'Shea is a nailed on All Star. Won the sigerson with UCC as top scorer, 2nd top scorer in National League with Kerry finishing runners up, Munster winner and All Ireland finalist, 2nd top scorer in the Championship playing 2 less games than McShane and produced 2 good displays in both finals

1 less game than McShane and he got much more of his scores from placed balls than McShane.
Whats the placed ball argument got to do with anything? All count the same. If McShane was as accurate as SoS Tyrone might have beat Kerry. (Thats not a slight on McShane btw who I really rate, but O’Shea on different level)

Not really.

Placed balls are free shots, you don't have to worry about about being blocked down or forced away from goal, being shown your wrong side, being forced to overcarry, have to make split second decisions with players converging on you from all angles. You put the ball down, take your time and put it over the bar. By the time the free is awarded it might through the endevaour and leadership of a teammate and the free taker can tap over a gimmee.

O'Shea is a fantastic free taker, the best in the game along with Rock but a free taker for Kerry is going to score a barrowload, that's given. O'Shea had an excellent game in the drawn final but I don't think he lit up any other game bar maybe the Super 8s games with deflated Meath where he seemed to score well.



Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Blowitupref on September 26, 2019, 09:19:17 PM
45 All star nominations will be made public tomorrow morning

Not my selection but what i expect to be selected

Goalkeepers

Stephen Cluxton (Dublin)
Shane Ryan (Kerry)
Shaun Patton (Donegal)

Defenders

Tom O'Sullivan (Kerry)
Jack McCaffrey (Dublin)
Michael Fitzsimons (Dublin)
Paddy Durcan (Mayo)
Ronan McNamee (Tyrone)
James McCarthy (Dublin)
Colm Boyle (Mayo)
David Byrne (Dublin)
John Small (Dublin)
Donal Keogan (Meath)
Jonny Cooper (Dublin)
Paul Murphy (Kerry)
Gavin Crowley (Kerry)
Tadgh Morley (Kerry)
Jason Foley (Kerry)
Niall Daly (Roscommon)
Frank Burns (Tyrone)
Stephen McMenamin (Donegal)

Midfielders

Brian Fenton (Dublin)
David Moran (Kerry)
Aidan O'Shea (Mayo)
Colm Cavanagh (Tyrone)
Michael Dara McAuley (Dublin)
Bryan Menton (Meath)

Forwards

Con O'Callaghan (Dublin)
Cathal McShane (Tyone)
David Clifford (Kerry)
Sean O'Shea (Kerry)
Brian Howard (Dublin)
Paul Mannion (Dublin)
Stephen O'Brien (Kerry)
Michael Murphy (Donegal)
Ciaran Kilkenny (Dublin)
Ryan McHugh (Donegal)
Paul Geaney (Kerry)
Dean Rock (Dublin)
Conor Cox (Roscommon)
Mattie Donnelly (Tyrone)
Peter Harte (Tyrone)
Paddy McBreaty (Donegal)
Mark Collins (Cork)
Luke Connolly (Cork)



Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on September 26, 2019, 10:00:20 PM
Rian O’Neill Armagh might be decent shout for a nomination.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Angelo on September 26, 2019, 10:06:16 PM
45 All star nominations will be made public tomorrow morning

Not my selection but what i expect to be selected

Goalkeepers

Stephen Cluxton (Dublin)
Shane Ryan (Kerry)
Shaun Patton (Donegal)

Defenders

Tom O'Sullivan (Kerry)
Jack McCaffrey (Dublin)
Michael Fitzsimons (Dublin)
Paddy Durcan (Mayo)
Ronan McNamee (Tyrone)
James McCarthy (Dublin)
Colm Boyle (Mayo)
David Byrne (Dublin)
John Small (Dublin)
Donal Keogan (Meath)
Jonny Cooper (Dublin)
Paul Murphy (Kerry)
Gavin Crowley (Kerry)
Tadgh Morley (Kerry)
Jason Foley (Kerry)
Niall Daly (Roscommon)
Frank Burns (Tyrone)
Stephen McMenamin (Donegal)

Midfielders

Brian Fenton (Dublin)
David Moran (Kerry)
Aidan O'Shea (Mayo)
Colm Cavanagh (Tyrone)
Michael Dara McAuley (Dublin)
Bryan Menton (Meath)

Forwards

Con O'Callaghan (Dublin)
Cathal McShane (Tyone)
David Clifford (Kerry)
Sean O'Shea (Kerry)
Brian Howard (Dublin)
Paul Mannion (Dublin)
Stephen O'Brien (Kerry)
Michael Murphy (Donegal)
Ciaran Kilkenny (Dublin)
Ryan McHugh (Donegal)
Paul Geaney (Kerry)
Dean Rock (Dublin)
Conor Cox (Roscommon)
Mattie Donnelly (Tyrone)
Peter Harte (Tyrone)
Paddy McBreaty (Donegal)
Mark Collins (Cork)
Luke Connolly (Cork)

Would imagine Rian O'Neill and Jamie Brennan will get in ahead of the two Cork lads in the forward line. McHugh more likely to nominated in the half back line.

3 nominations for Mayo seems a little sparse considering they made the semi finals, injuries and rotation probably didn't help in that regard.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 26, 2019, 10:42:32 PM
Mickey Newman will probably be nominated or should be. I think only Rock,McShane and O'Shea scored more than him this summer. Darren Coen was one of Mayo's stand out players this summer and probably should be nominated also.

Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: MayoBuck on September 26, 2019, 11:27:17 PM
Chris Barrett should get a nomination too. Darren Coen had a good year but being left out of the game vs Dublin may count against him.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 27, 2019, 06:03:25 AM
According to the Irish independent 11 counties are represented in the nominations.

13 for  Dublin
9 for Kerry
6 for Donegal
4 for Mayo
3 for Tyrone
3 for Meath
2 for Armagh
2 for Roscommon
1 for Cavan
1 for Cork
1 for Clare

It's between  Stephen Cluxton, Jack McCaffrey and Con O'Callaghan for footballer of the year

Young Player of the Year Nominees are David Clifford, Seán O'Shea and Rían O'Neill
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Gael85 on September 27, 2019, 07:05:34 AM
Jamie Malone Clare nominated for All Star. Delighted to see him nominated as Clare best player in their qualifier run. Pity he is taking year out to go travelling next year.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: tonto1888 on September 27, 2019, 07:18:00 AM
Rian O’Neill and Jarly Og Burns both nominated. Great to see
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Angelo on September 27, 2019, 07:20:40 AM
3 for Tyrone seems a little short though I don't think anyone will feel that robbed of a nomination. Think Cassidy and Rory Brennan had much better years than some of those defenders nominated though.

Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 27, 2019, 07:21:26 AM
3 Meath players nominated.  :o

Recap
Scraped past Div 3 Offaly
Hammered Div 3 Carlow
Hammered Div 3 Laois
Hammered by Dublin scoring a mighty 4 points
Scraped past Div 2 Clare
Lost to Donegal by 9
Lost to Mayo by 9
Lost to Kerry by 8

Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Blowitupref on September 27, 2019, 07:29:21 AM
Not fully along the expected lines with a few surprises. Coopers red card in drawn final seems to have cost him a nomination.  Donegal with double the amount of nominations to semi finalist Tyrone and it must be a while since Meath got that many?


Goalkeepers

1. Stephen Cluxton (Dublin)
2. Shaun Patton (Donegal)
3. Shane Ryan (Kerry)

Defenders

1. David Byrne (Dublin)
2. Jack McCaffrey (Dublin)
3. James McCarthy (Dublin)
4. Mick Fitzsimons (Dublin)
5. John Small (Dublin)
6. Paul Murphy (Kerry)
7. Tadhg Morley (Kerry)
8. Tom O’Sullivan (Kerry)
9. Colm Boyle (Mayo)
10. Paddy Durcan (Mayo)
11. Chris Barrett (Mayo)
12. Stephen McMenamin (Donegal)
13. Ryan McHugh (Donegal)
14. Donal Keogan (Meath)
15. Conor McGill (Meath)
16. Conor Moynagh (Cavan)
17. Ronan McNamee (Tyrone)
18. Niall Daly (Roscommon)

Midfielders

1. Brian Fenton (Dublin)
2. Michael Darragh Macauley (Dublin)
3. David Moran (Kerry)
4. Aidan O’Shea (Mayo)
5. Jarlath Óg Burns (Armagh)
6. Bryan Menton (Meath)

Forwards

1. Ciarán Kilkenny (Dublin)
2. Brian Howard (Dublin)
3. Paul Mannion (Dublin)
4. Dean Rock (Dublin)
5. Con O’Callaghan (Dublin)
6. David Clifford (Kerry)
7. Paul Geaney (Kerry)
8. Seán O’Shea (Kerry)
9. Stephen O’Brien (Kerry)
10. Jamie Brennan (Donegal)
11. Michael Murphy (Donegal)
12. Paddy McBrearty (Donegal)
13. Cathal McShane (Tyrone)
14. Mattie Donnelly (Tyrone)
15. Conor Cox (Roscommon)
16. Rían O’Neill (Armagh)
17. Brian Hurley (Cork)
18. Jamie Malone (Clare)
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Gael85 on September 27, 2019, 07:40:05 AM
Not fully along the expected lines with a few surprises. Coopers red card in drawn final seems to have cost him a nomination.  Donegal with double the amount of nominations to semi finalist Tyrone and it must be a while since Meath got that many?


Goalkeepers

1. Stephen Cluxton (Dublin)
2. Shaun Patton (Donegal)
3. Shane Ryan (Kerry)

Defenders

1. David Byrne (Dublin)
2. Jack McCaffrey (Dublin)
3. James McCarthy (Dublin)
4. Mick Fitzsimons (Dublin)
5. John Small (Dublin)
6. Paul Murphy (Kerry)
7. Tadhg Morley (Kerry)
8. Tom O’Sullivan (Kerry)
9. Colm Boyle (Mayo)
10. Paddy Durcan (Mayo)
11. Chris Barrett (Mayo)
12. Stephen McMenamin (Donegal)
13. Ryan McHugh (Donegal)
14. Donal Keogan (Meath)
15. Conor McGill (Meath)
16. Conor Moynagh (Cavan)
17. Ronan McNamee (Tyrone)
18. Niall Daly (Roscommon)

Midfielders

1. Brian Fenton (Dublin)
2. Michael Darragh Macauley (Dublin)
3. David Moran (Kerry)
4. Aidan O’Shea (Mayo)
5. Jarlath Óg Burns (Armagh)
6. Bryan Menton (Meath)

Forwards

1. Ciarán Kilkenny (Dublin)
2. Brian Howard (Dublin)
3. Paul Mannion (Dublin)
4. Dean Rock (Dublin)
5. Con O’Callaghan (Dublin)
6. David Clifford (Kerry)
7. Paul Geaney (Kerry)
8. Seán O’Shea (Kerry)
9. Stephen O’Brien (Kerry)
10. Jamie Brennan (Donegal)
11. Michael Murphy (Donegal)
12. Paddy McBrearty (Donegal)
13. Cathal McShane (Tyrone)
14. Mattie Donnelly (Tyrone)
15. Conor Cox (Roscommon)
16. Rían O’Neill (Armagh)
17. Brian Hurley (Cork)
18. Jamie Malone (Clare)

Jonny only started 4 championship games which would have also went against him.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: seafoid on September 27, 2019, 08:45:05 AM
3 Meath players nominated.  :o

Recap
Scraped past Div 3 Offaly
Hammered Div 3 Carlow
Hammered Div 3 Laois
Hammered by Dublin scoring a mighty 4 points
Scraped past Div 2 Clare
Lost to Donegal by 9
Lost to Mayo by 9
Lost to Kerry by 8
That's the state of football at the moment

The height of mediocrity is the challenge crawling through the entrails of imbalance

"History is a record of "effects" the vast majority of which nobody intended to produce.”
― Joseph Alois Schumpeter

The GAA funds Dublin at the expense of everybody else
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: joemamas on September 27, 2019, 01:56:00 PM
Not that I am into these awards, but Aidan O Shea carried the Mayo midfield all year on his own, and it was a very long year.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: omaghjoe on September 27, 2019, 03:43:26 PM
Any1 got the latest list of the total awards by county?
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Armagh18 on September 27, 2019, 05:26:42 PM
Not that I am into these awards, but Aidan O Shea carried the Mayo midfield all year on his own, and it was a very long year.
He was good this year, but it’s blindingly obvious who should and will get picked in midfield. Not even a contest.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: greatpoint on September 27, 2019, 05:44:15 PM
Given Ronan McNamee's performances against Donegal and Kerry is he actually likely to get an All-Star?
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Angelo on September 27, 2019, 10:17:45 PM
Given Ronan McNamee's performances against Donegal and Kerry is he actually likely to get an All-Star?

He kept McBrearty very quiet in the Donegal game when pretty much every other Tyrone player was getting beat up a stick.

He's been the best full back in the country this season. He kept two All star nominees scoreless in the Super 8s when they were coming in great form. Thought he had a decent game vs Kerry too.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: macdanger2 on September 27, 2019, 10:18:48 PM
Cluxton poty for me
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: greatpoint on September 30, 2019, 05:01:21 PM
Given Ronan McNamee's performances against Donegal and Kerry is he actually likely to get an All-Star?

He kept McBrearty very quiet in the Donegal game when pretty much every other Tyrone player was getting beat up a stick.

He's been the best full back in the country this season. He kept two All star nominees scoreless in the Super 8s when they were coming in great form. Thought he had a decent game vs Kerry too.

He did well in the first half but McBrearty definitely won the battle in the second, which is fairly similar to what happened in the Kerry game from what I could see? I'm not sure how much stock I put in performances against Cork and Roscommon in terms of earning an All-Star.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 30, 2019, 05:09:45 PM
Given Ronan McNamee's performances against Donegal and Kerry is he actually likely to get an All-Star?

He kept McBrearty very quiet in the Donegal game when pretty much every other Tyrone player was getting beat up a stick.

He's been the best full back in the country this season. He kept two All star nominees scoreless in the Super 8s when they were coming in great form. Thought he had a decent game vs Kerry too.

He did well in the first half but McBrearty definitely won the battle in the second, which is fairly similar to what happened in the Kerry game from what I could see? I'm not sure how much stock I put in performances against Cork and Roscommon in terms of earning an All-Star.
Considering he was marking two All Star nominees in those games I'd say a fair bit of stock will be taken.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: greatpoint on October 02, 2019, 02:55:19 PM
Given Ronan McNamee's performances against Donegal and Kerry is he actually likely to get an All-Star?

He kept McBrearty very quiet in the Donegal game when pretty much every other Tyrone player was getting beat up a stick.

He's been the best full back in the country this season. He kept two All star nominees scoreless in the Super 8s when they were coming in great form. Thought he had a decent game vs Kerry too.

He did well in the first half but McBrearty definitely won the battle in the second, which is fairly similar to what happened in the Kerry game from what I could see? I'm not sure how much stock I put in performances against Cork and Roscommon in terms of earning an All-Star.
Considering he was marking two All Star nominees in those games I'd say a fair bit of stock will be taken.

He did well indeed on Hurley and Cox but being honest neither have them have any chance whatsoever of winning an All-Star.
Title: Re: Football All Stars 2019
Post by: moysider on October 04, 2019, 11:24:30 PM
Mayo did not do to well on the nominations.

A few defenders and Aidan O Shea.

Will get one but probably not most deserving one.

Certainly puts winning the league and getting to an AI semi to bed as regards anything really, when it comes to All-Stars.