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Title: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Orior on January 03, 2019, 09:38:27 AM
Great piece by Jude Collins

http://www.judecollins.com/2019/01/ruth-dudley-edwards-a-brain-to-be-reckoned-with/ (http://www.judecollins.com/2019/01/ruth-dudley-edwards-a-brain-to-be-reckoned-with/)

Now that Stephen Hawking has left us, the hunt is on for an intellect of comparable size to shine its light and lead the rest of us dullards through the minefield of Life. You may say “There’s only one Stephen Hawking” and you’d be right. But be of good cheer. His successor in the brain cells department is obvious and, best of all, one of our own. I’m referring, of course, to Ruth Dudley Edwards.

As far back as the 1960s at UCD,  Ruth was known for the size of her brain. The Derry boys, who used to cluster around a radiator by the main door, would gasp when Ruth made an entrance. “Would you look at the size of that!” they would whisper to each other in awe, as Ruth make her way across the black-and-white tiles to a lecture hall.

Further evidence of the size and attractive shape of Ruth’s brain was provided by her choice of subject (History) and choice of parent (her father was Professor of – yes indeed, Virginia – History). She also used her enormous brain to attach herself to another student of History called Paddy Cosgrave, who resembled a more youthful Mr Burns from the yet-to-be-created Simpsons but who had a brain, some claimed, even bigger than Ruth’s. A year after Ruth’s graduation,  they married and the pooling of brain power was made permanent. Well, sort of.

They moved to England, where Paddy (now ‘Patrick’) became well-known for his right-wing views and in particular for his admiration of a woman called Margaret Thatcher. He was so impressed by her (no, I don’t know if Thatcher had a bigger brain than Ruth or Paddy, Virginia – probably not) that he wrote a reverential biography of her which unkind critics declared a hagiography. Thatcher seemed to take a shine to the man formerly known as Paddy, and  he was tipped to be given a safe Conservative seat in Parliament and even a place in a future Thatcher cabinet. But alas, Paddy took to the drink and, Private Eye alleged, ended his political career in spectacular fashion when, emerging from a taxi containing the Iron Lady, he vomited over her lap. Sic transit gloria Paddy.

But that’s getting away from our subject. Ruth went to Oxbridge and later wrote all sorts of history books, including one showing how unbalanced a creature P H Pearse really was and another what a fine institution the Orange Order really was.

With age Ruth’s brain has, if anything, expanded. To the best of my knowledge she has lived her life in England, but that hasn’t prevented her using her magnificent organ to explain the Irish situation to the Irish people. Her glittering grey cells transform complicated and many-stranded issues to an elegant simplicity : if it’s republican it’s bloodthirsty and bad, if it’s British / unionist it’s law-abiding and good. That’s a truly mammoth brain at work.

It can surely only be a matter of time  – perhaps before the end of this coming year – before Her Majesty rewards Ruth’s oversize organ with a peerage, or President Higgins places the gold torc around her unique neck and welcomes her to the ranks of Aosdána. There is no truth to the rumour that the torc would have to be expanded first to fit over her head.

Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: haranguerer on January 03, 2019, 09:46:04 AM
Great
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Rossfan on January 03, 2019, 09:57:21 AM
Good one ;D
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Owenmoresider on January 03, 2019, 10:08:58 AM
Jude would know plenty about blatant shilling masquerading as journalism alright.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Itchy on January 03, 2019, 10:24:05 AM
I could have written that with one sentence

Ruth Dudley Edwards is a Cnut.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Frank_The_Tank on January 03, 2019, 10:47:55 AM
Cant stand the bigoted old boot
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: magpie seanie on January 03, 2019, 10:49:21 AM
I've no time for RDE obviously but thast piece is nothing special. A bit childish really.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Kidder81 on January 03, 2019, 10:58:24 AM
Jude Collins ffs
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: RedHand88 on January 03, 2019, 11:35:24 AM
I have as much disdain for RDE as the next man but I can't believe Jude thought this would be a good idea. If the Newsletter did it about Michelle O'Neill or Mary Lou there'd be war and rightfully so.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Kidder81 on January 03, 2019, 11:38:53 AM
I have as much disdain for RDE as the next man but I can't believe Jude thought this would be a good idea. If the Newsletter did it about Michelle O'Neill or Mary Lou there'd be war and rightfully so.

Jude is a hired gun so I doubt he decided to do it off his own bat
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:39:51 AM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.

Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: haranguerer on January 03, 2019, 11:39:56 AM
I have as much disdain for RDE as the next man but I can't believe Jude thought this would be a good idea. If the Newsletter did it about Michelle O'Neill or Mary Lou there'd be war and rightfully so.

How on earth is any of what you've described comparable?
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: haranguerer on January 03, 2019, 11:40:33 AM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.

Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.

He didn't say that.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:40:53 AM
I have as much disdain for RDE as the next man but I can't believe Jude thought this would be a good idea. If the Newsletter did it about Michelle O'Neill or Mary Lou there'd be war and rightfully so.

Jude is a hired gun so I doubt he decided to do it off his own bat

Correct - he's on the payroll, similar to Chris Donnelly.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: yellowcard on January 03, 2019, 11:42:21 AM
Why give Dudley Edwards any more attention than she already craves. Her views are backward and bigoted but they are best ignored rather than give her the oxygen of publicity.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: haranguerer on January 03, 2019, 11:43:23 AM
I have as much disdain for RDE as the next man but I can't believe Jude thought this would be a good idea. If the Newsletter did it about Michelle O'Neill or Mary Lou there'd be war and rightfully so.

Jude is a hired gun so I doubt he decided to do it off his own bat

Correct - he's on the payroll, similar to Chris Donnelly.

Great political analysis  ::)

RDE wrote a piece slating Jude during the week. This appears to be a personal riposte.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:43:50 AM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.

Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.

He didn't say that.

Yes he did.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: trailer on January 03, 2019, 11:46:12 AM
I have as much disdain for RDE as the next man but I can't believe Jude thought this would be a good idea. If the Newsletter did it about Michelle O'Neill or Mary Lou there'd be war and rightfully so.

Jude is a hired gun so I doubt he decided to do it off his own bat

Correct - he's on the payroll, similar to Chris Donnelly.

Great political analysis  ::)

RDE wrote a piece slating Jude during the week. This appears to be a personal riposte.

That may be so. But I stand over my analysis of him. An awful person.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: LooseCannon on January 03, 2019, 11:58:11 AM
I could have written that with one sentence

Ruth Dudley Edwards is a Cnut.
I’d like to second that. Through the chair, of course.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Orchard park on January 03, 2019, 12:18:51 PM
RDE

THE Conor Cruise of the 21st century
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Orior on January 03, 2019, 12:50:47 PM
RDE

THE Conor Cruise of the 21st century

And as far as I recall, while he tried to cuddle up to them the unionists of the day jettisoned him out of their sheer bigotry.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: RedHand88 on January 03, 2019, 01:01:04 PM
I have as much disdain for RDE as the next man but I can't believe Jude thought this would be a good idea. If the Newsletter did it about Michelle O'Neill or Mary Lou there'd be war and rightfully so.

How on earth is any of what you've described comparable?

Insulting someone because of their political views.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: grounded on January 03, 2019, 01:57:17 PM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.

Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.

He didn't say that.

Yes he did.

Pantomime fun time. ' oh no he didn't  '.

As for RDE, just a sad irrelevant nobody.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: armaghniac on January 03, 2019, 02:04:58 PM
Michelle O'Neill, Mary Lou or even Arlene Foster have political views, but they also have to make some effort to put forward a plan to achieve their political objectives. The likes of RDE just snipes from the sideline, never putting forward solutions, only sneers. However, someone else sneering at her isn't really a step forward either.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: seafoid on January 03, 2019, 02:10:06 PM
RDE

THE Conor Cruise of the 21st century

And as far as I recall, while he tried to cuddle up to them the unionists of the day jettisoned him out of their sheer bigotry.

30 years ago


unbelievable.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/margaret-thatcher-s-ag-woke-from-surgery-screaming-we-must-kill-ian-paisley-1.3737029

Gow told the diplomat that he had no “spark of hope” that he could get any of the unionist leaders to “show any courage or leadership”.
“They are all awful,” he said.

Now they are even worse
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: north_antrim_hound on January 03, 2019, 02:10:49 PM
Why give Dudley Edwards any more attention than she already craves. Her views are backward and bigoted but they are best ignored rather than give her the oxygen of publicity.

I would be in favour of cutting off all types of Oxygen. A one dimensional prehistoric waste of space.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Owen Brannigan on January 03, 2019, 02:30:36 PM

I would be in favour of cutting off all types of Oxygen. A one dimensional prehistoric waste of space.

And Ruth Dudley Edwards is not much better.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: haranguerer on January 03, 2019, 02:35:03 PM
I have as much disdain for RDE as the next man but I can't believe Jude thought this would be a good idea. If the Newsletter did it about Michelle O'Neill or Mary Lou there'd be war and rightfully so.

How on earth is any of what you've described comparable?

Insulting someone because of their political views.

Jude Collins isn't a newspaper.

RDE isn't an elected representative.

Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: dec on January 03, 2019, 02:46:09 PM

Gow told the diplomat that he had no “spark of hope” that he could get any of the unionist leaders to “show any courage or leadership”.
“They are all awful,” he said.


and Gow was about as pro unionist as anyone in the Tory Party.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: grounded on January 03, 2019, 05:07:41 PM
RDE

THE Conor Cruise of the 21st century

And as far as I recall, while he tried to cuddle up to them the unionists of the day jettisoned him out of their sheer bigotry.

Correct, he had the cheek to suggest unionism should consider a united ireland as a way to undermine sinn fein. He got a swift boot out for that.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: red hander on January 03, 2019, 05:23:47 PM
RDE

THE Conor Cruise of the 21st century

And as far as I recall, while he tried to cuddle up to them the unionists of the day jettisoned him out of their sheer bigotry.

30 years ago


unbelievable.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/margaret-thatcher-s-ag-woke-from-surgery-screaming-we-must-kill-ian-paisley-1.3737029

Gow told the diplomat that he had no “spark of hope” that he could get any of the unionist leaders to “show any courage or leadership”.
“They are all awful,” he said.

Now they are even worse

Which is great, for every time the mediocre provincial solicitor (and apparently only victim of the Troubles) opens her mouth, the Irish people move closer to getting their whole country back.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Frank_The_Tank on January 03, 2019, 07:47:30 PM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.

Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.

He didn't say that.

Yes he did.

If you are going to quote someone at least quote what they actually said - https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/patsy-gillespies-widow-tells-of-pain-over-bomb-tweet-37402599.html

Mr Collins posted on his Twitter account that "like so many others from the conflict years, his death was horrible and shocking".

"However, unlike many others, Patsy chose to do work for the 'security' forces, even after the IRA had warned that made them targets," he added.

You are saying he thinks he deserved it - where in his actual quote does he say he thinks he deserved it?
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: trailer on January 04, 2019, 09:25:55 AM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.

Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.

He didn't say that.

Yes he did.

If you are going to quote someone at least quote what they actually said - https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/patsy-gillespies-widow-tells-of-pain-over-bomb-tweet-37402599.html

Mr Collins posted on his Twitter account that "like so many others from the conflict years, his death was horrible and shocking".

"However, unlike many others, Patsy chose to do work for the 'security' forces, even after the IRA had warned that made them targets," he added.

You are saying he thinks he deserved it - where in his actual quote does he say he thinks he deserved it?

Language is a powerful tool. Given this prefix "However, unlike many others" I take from that, that he believes he deserved it. Otherwise, why say that?
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: magpie seanie on January 04, 2019, 09:38:36 AM
This thread is embarrassing.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Frank_The_Tank on January 04, 2019, 09:45:03 AM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.

Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.

He didn't say that.

Yes he did.

If you are going to quote someone at least quote what they actually said - https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/patsy-gillespies-widow-tells-of-pain-over-bomb-tweet-37402599.html

Mr Collins posted on his Twitter account that "like so many others from the conflict years, his death was horrible and shocking".

"However, unlike many others, Patsy chose to do work for the 'security' forces, even after the IRA had warned that made them targets," he added.

You are saying he thinks he deserved it - where in his actual quote does he say he thinks he deserved it?

Language is a powerful tool. Given this prefix "However, unlike many others" I take from that, that he believes he deserved it. Otherwise, why say that?

So you take a direct quote and decide what someone means?  What about his other quote then..his death was horrible and shocking?
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: trailer on January 04, 2019, 09:53:18 AM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.

Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.

He didn't say that.

Yes he did.

If you are going to quote someone at least quote what they actually said - https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/patsy-gillespies-widow-tells-of-pain-over-bomb-tweet-37402599.html

Mr Collins posted on his Twitter account that "like so many others from the conflict years, his death was horrible and shocking".

"However, unlike many others, Patsy chose to do work for the 'security' forces, even after the IRA had warned that made them targets," he added.

You are saying he thinks he deserved it - where in his actual quote does he say he thinks he deserved it?

Language is a powerful tool. Given this prefix "However, unlike many others" I take from that, that he believes he deserved it. Otherwise, why say that?

So you take a direct quote and decide what someone means?  What about his other quote then..his death was horrible and shocking?

It was horrible and shocking??
To get this straight, people say or write something, and I am not allowed to interpret what it means? Is that what you are saying? You do understand how communication and language works?
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Frank_The_Tank on January 04, 2019, 09:59:24 AM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.

Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.

He didn't say that.

Yes he did.

If you are going to quote someone at least quote what they actually said - https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/patsy-gillespies-widow-tells-of-pain-over-bomb-tweet-37402599.html

Mr Collins posted on his Twitter account that "like so many others from the conflict years, his death was horrible and shocking".

"However, unlike many others, Patsy chose to do work for the 'security' forces, even after the IRA had warned that made them targets," he added.

You are saying he thinks he deserved it - where in his actual quote does he say he thinks he deserved it?

Language is a powerful tool. Given this prefix "However, unlike many others" I take from that, that he believes he deserved it. Otherwise, why say that?

So you take a direct quote and decide what someone means?  What about his other quote then..his death was horrible and shocking?

It was horrible and shocking??
To get this straight, people say or write something, and I am not allowed to interpret what it means? Is that what you are saying? You do understand how communication and language works?

I'll rephrase you take a direct quote and said he said something else..you should clarify your original post to say..I interpreted a quote of his and in my opinion he insinuates that Patsy deserved it.

Did the IRA say working for security forces made you a target..yes.  Did many people decide that was a risk..yes.  so was Pasty unlike many others yes.  Does that mean he deserved it..No.  I think you need to whip out the Oxford dictionary/thesarus and look up each word in that quote.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: trailer on January 04, 2019, 10:47:09 AM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.

Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.

He didn't say that.

Yes he did.

If you are going to quote someone at least quote what they actually said - https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/patsy-gillespies-widow-tells-of-pain-over-bomb-tweet-37402599.html

Mr Collins posted on his Twitter account that "like so many others from the conflict years, his death was horrible and shocking".

"However, unlike many others, Patsy chose to do work for the 'security' forces, even after the IRA had warned that made them targets," he added.

You are saying he thinks he deserved it - where in his actual quote does he say he thinks he deserved it?

Language is a powerful tool. Given this prefix "However, unlike many others" I take from that, that he believes he deserved it. Otherwise, why say that?

So you take a direct quote and decide what someone means?  What about his other quote then..his death was horrible and shocking?

It was horrible and shocking??
To get this straight, people say or write something, and I am not allowed to interpret what it means? Is that what you are saying? You do understand how communication and language works?

I'll rephrase you take a direct quote and said he said something else..you should clarify your original post to say..I interpreted a quote of his and in my opinion he insinuates that Patsy deserved it.

Did the IRA say working for security forces made you a target..yes.  Did many people decide that was a risk..yes.  so was Pasty unlike many others yes.  Does that mean he deserved it..No.  I think you need to whip out the Oxford dictionary/thesarus and look up each word in that quote.

I love the way you just think it's normal everyday conversation just to coolly talk about the murder of a Husband and Father. Jude often just comments ever so matter of fact about one of the most grotesque murders of the troubles. Jude knew what he was doing. His tweet was aimed at causing maximum suffering and pain on the family. Sometimes I think I'm in an episode of the Brady bunch. Imagine defending Jude Collins.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Frank_The_Tank on January 04, 2019, 12:05:58 PM
Jude Collins, a man who things Patsy Gillespie deserved to be strapped to his own van, forced to drive to an army checkpoint while his family were held at gunpoint and then blown up.

Jude Collins is a nasty human being who will not be missed.

He didn't say that.

Yes he did.

If you are going to quote someone at least quote what they actually said - https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/patsy-gillespies-widow-tells-of-pain-over-bomb-tweet-37402599.html

Mr Collins posted on his Twitter account that "like so many others from the conflict years, his death was horrible and shocking".

"However, unlike many others, Patsy chose to do work for the 'security' forces, even after the IRA had warned that made them targets," he added.

You are saying he thinks he deserved it - where in his actual quote does he say he thinks he deserved it?

Language is a powerful tool. Given this prefix "However, unlike many others" I take from that, that he believes he deserved it. Otherwise, why say that?

So you take a direct quote and decide what someone means?  What about his other quote then..his death was horrible and shocking?

It was horrible and shocking??
To get this straight, people say or write something, and I am not allowed to interpret what it means? Is that what you are saying? You do understand how communication and language works?

I'll rephrase you take a direct quote and said he said something else..you should clarify your original post to say..I interpreted a quote of his and in my opinion he insinuates that Patsy deserved it.

Did the IRA say working for security forces made you a target..yes.  Did many people decide that was a risk..yes.  so was Pasty unlike many others yes.  Does that mean he deserved it..No.  I think you need to whip out the Oxford dictionary/thesarus and look up each word in that quote.

I love the way you just think it's normal everyday conversation just to coolly talk about the murder of a Husband and Father. Jude often just comments ever so matter of fact about one of the most grotesque murders of the troubles. Jude knew what he was doing. His tweet was aimed at causing maximum suffering and pain on the family. Sometimes I think I'm in an episode of the Brady bunch. Imagine defending Jude Collins.
 

I'm not defending him.  I think his comments r.e..the omagh bomb and Mary tracers were both grotesque.  However I will also call someome out spouting lies about what someone did or did not say if they aren't going to clarify in the original post what the quote was and what their interpretation of it was which you are very much entitled too.  But for others you should at least use the direct quote rather than blindly saying he did say that.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Stall the Bailer on January 04, 2019, 01:18:06 PM
Thought it a very poor article. Just a lot of innuendo, and going for the person and not even trying to go for the ball. There is plenty to show her up for. Jude the only one shown up by that article
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Main Street on January 05, 2019, 12:02:44 AM
Ruth is the person who wrote article after article viciously attacking  film director Ken Loach and the film the Wind that Shakes the Barley.
It turned out that she hadn't even viewed the film  ;D
 Hard to credit that someone so academically corrupt and vacuous gets a platform on national newspapers.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: grounded on January 05, 2019, 01:31:13 PM
Ruth is the person who wrote article after article viciously attacking  film director Ken Loach and the film the Wind that Shakes the Barley.
It turned out that she hadn't even viewed the film  ;D
 Hard to credit that someone so academically corrupt and vacuous gets a platform on national newspapers.

This is it. She is trying to be controversial for the sake of it, like thon other idiot katie Hopkins. At the heart of it all, i'd wager she doesnt even believe half the tripe she writes.
       
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Orior on October 01, 2019, 09:37:04 AM
Dudley Edwards at it again. These days the focus of her hate filled drivel appears to be John Finucane. In Monday's Belfast Telegraph she chastises John because of the company he keeps. That company is Conor Murphy, Gerry Kelly and Caral Ni Chuilin, who are all members of the political party of which John is a member.

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I'd love to believe that Sinn Fein are genuine about reconciliation, but they don't half make it difficult. Just look at last week and the meeting of Sinn Fein's North Belfast constituency members to select John Finucane as their candidate for the next general election to defeat the DUP's Nigel Dodds.

Mr Finucane is  even being tipped as a future Irish President. Clearly, Sinn Fein think he's very special.

I watched a video of the meeting, which began with Mr Finucane striding into the crowded room ahead of Conor Murphy, Gerry Kelly and Caral Ni Chuilin.

For someone who assures us he reaches out to unionists, craves equality for all and is hoping to win over the centre ground, his companions should have been a bit of an embarrassment.

Murphy was sentenced in 1982 to five years for possession of explosives and IRA membership; after a 1973 London bombing campaign, Kelly was sentenced to two life sentences, plus 20 years, and during a violent mass escape in 1983, shot a prison officer in the head and then went on the run; and Ni Chuilin was arrested in 1989 after trying to place a booby-trap bomb at an RUC station and was sentenced to eight years.

Now, we should be prepared to allow people to put their pasts behind them.

But when you've been involved in violent criminality, it's hardly unreasonable to expect from you some degree of contrition before you're welcomed into the fold.

....
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: red hander on October 01, 2019, 05:39:01 PM
Dudley Edwards at it again. These days the focus of her hate filled drivel appears to be John Finucane. In Monday's Belfast Telegraph she chastises John because of the company he keeps. That company is Conor Murphy, Gerry Kelly and Caral Ni Chuilin, who are all members of the political party of which John is a member.

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I'd love to believe that Sinn Fein are genuine about reconciliation, but they don't half make it difficult. Just look at last week and the meeting of Sinn Fein's North Belfast constituency members to select John Finucane as their candidate for the next general election to defeat the DUP's Nigel Dodds.

Mr Finucane is  even being tipped as a future Irish President. Clearly, Sinn Fein think he's very special.

I watched a video of the meeting, which began with Mr Finucane striding into the crowded room ahead of Conor Murphy, Gerry Kelly and Caral Ni Chuilin.

For someone who assures us he reaches out to unionists, craves equality for all and is hoping to win over the centre ground, his companions should have been a bit of an embarrassment.

Murphy was sentenced in 1982 to five years for possession of explosives and IRA membership; after a 1973 London bombing campaign, Kelly was sentenced to two life sentences, plus 20 years, and during a violent mass escape in 1983, shot a prison officer in the head and then went on the run; and Ni Chuilin was arrested in 1989 after trying to place a booby-trap bomb at an RUC station and was sentenced to eight years.

Now, we should be prepared to allow people to put their pasts behind them.

But when you've been involved in violent criminality, it's hardly unreasonable to expect from you some degree of contrition before you're welcomed into the fold.

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I heard she was being sued for libel by the Finucanes over a Twitter post a while back.If she's done for that then it'll come out of the twisted oul hag's own bank account, not that of the papers that pay for her awful drivel. She really is an odious human being.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: imtommygunn on October 01, 2019, 06:58:22 PM
Her tweets on finucane were rough and pretty disgusting.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Lar Naparka on October 01, 2019, 08:28:53 PM
Michelle O'Neill, Mary Lou or even Arlene Foster have political views, but they also have to make some effort to put forward a plan to achieve their political objectives. The likes of RDE just snipes from the sideline, never putting forward solutions, only sneers. However, someone else sneering at her isn't really a step forward either.
+1 !
I'd honestly say RDE's readership is in single figures and,apart from her good self of course, nobody gives a damn one way or the other.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Main Street on October 01, 2019, 11:38:54 PM
Dudley Edwards at it again. These days the focus of her hate filled drivel appears to be John Finucane. In Monday's Belfast Telegraph she chastises John because of the company he keeps. That company is Conor Murphy, Gerry Kelly and Caral Ni Chuilin, who are all members of the political party of which John is a member.

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I'd love to believe that Sinn Fein are genuine about reconciliation, but they don't half make it difficult. Just look at last week and the meeting of Sinn Fein's North Belfast constituency members to select John Finucane as their candidate for the next general election to defeat the DUP's Nigel Dodds.

Mr Finucane is  even being tipped as a future Irish President. Clearly, Sinn Fein think he's very special.

I watched a video of the meeting, which began with Mr Finucane striding into the crowded room ahead of Conor Murphy, Gerry Kelly and Caral Ni Chuilin.

For someone who assures us he reaches out to unionists, craves equality for all and is hoping to win over the centre ground, his companions should have been a bit of an embarrassment.

Murphy was sentenced in 1982 to five years for possession of explosives and IRA membership; after a 1973 London bombing campaign, Kelly was sentenced to two life sentences, plus 20 years, and during a violent mass escape in 1983, shot a prison officer in the head and then went on the run; and Ni Chuilin was arrested in 1989 after trying to place a booby-trap bomb at an RUC station and was sentenced to eight years.

Now, we should be prepared to allow people to put their pasts behind them.

But when you've been involved in violent criminality, it's hardly unreasonable to expect from you some degree of contrition before you're welcomed into the fold.

....

I heard she was being sued for libel by the Finucanes over a Twitter post a while back.If she's done for that then it'll come out of the twisted oul hag's own bank account, not that of the papers that pay for her awful drivel. She really is an odious human being.
The Edwards tweet  in May this year "Like his father. An apologist for the IRA" looked to be a repeat of what she wrote in the Indo a few years back which the paper lost a court case about and had to pay out over €500,000 to the Finucane foundation.  She's even dumber than I had reckoned with.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: red hander on October 02, 2019, 02:52:23 PM
She'll probably use the contents of the article in the Daily Gail as part of her defence to any libel. But, ironically, the Finucanes could also use it as evidence of obsessive, harassing behaviour against the family despite the fact she has been found to have committed defamation in the past. I really hope they take the old bastard for every penny she has and finally put her out of her misery.
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Orior on October 02, 2019, 03:45:21 PM
Is Owen her husband? He's in Fivemiletown on 15th October

https://www.facebook.com/CarletonSociety/photos/pcb.2710961018934181/2710960445600905/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: dec on October 02, 2019, 04:24:44 PM
Is Owen her husband? He's in Fivemiletown on 15th October

https://www.facebook.com/CarletonSociety/photos/pcb.2710961018934181/2710960445600905/?type=3&theater

Brother
Title: Re: Ruth Dudley Edwards: a brain to be reckoned with
Post by: Orior on October 15, 2019, 04:15:01 PM
Is Owen her husband? He's in Fivemiletown on 15th October

https://www.facebook.com/CarletonSociety/photos/pcb.2710961018934181/2710960445600905/?type=3&theater

Brother

He wore a cravat 😮