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Title: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Dire Ear on November 26, 2018, 04:58:45 PM
Well, a foregone conclusion?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on November 26, 2018, 05:09:44 PM
Us and Cyaavan hot favourites for the drop.
With us having a late managerial appointment , trying out new players and sorting out some team organisation and defensive system we're certainties
Dublin v Galway or Tyrone for the final.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on November 26, 2018, 05:16:52 PM
D1 is a good opportunity to try out new players. Especially with corofin in the effin club championship.
Last year Galway played quite well but were still well off the pace in the all Ireland semi so narrowing that gap has to be the focus for next year.
Apart from the Empire none of the teams are much to write home about, to be honesht. 

I would like to see the Rossies staying up

https://youtu.be/I_izvAbhExY
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 26, 2018, 05:29:14 PM
Need to start off by saying the these experimental rules is going to make a mess of the league and such experiments should only be used in December,January challenges and the FBD,McKenna,O'Byrne cups.

It looks like Dublin's league to lose again but i have a strong feeling Mayo could win or at least strongly challenge for a league title in 2019. Horan back on board and he'll be looking to hit the ground running, months to train and prepare for the league campaign unlike previous years and time is running out for the 30 years olds to win a national title.

At the other end of the table it looks like Cavan,Roscommon will be relegated but i feel one of them will stay up by the skin of their teeth and maybe someone like Kerry in deep transition could fall through the trap door.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on November 26, 2018, 07:07:59 PM
I doubt we'll back in the final next year anyway. We have a much tougher schedule of fixtures. Only 3 games at home to the two promoted sides and Kerry and 4 away games to Dublin, Mayo, Tyrone and Monaghan. Corofin players will be missing again also. If we can manage mid table mediocrity that would be grand. Should manage a couple of wins at home and maybe one on the road that would keep them up.

Dubs to reach the final yet again and maybe Mayo to join them if they get a new manager bounce from Horan.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 26, 2018, 09:21:10 PM
What is It, 4 years in a row last day relegation candidates? Have to raise the standard of home games and win a few, because travelling to Kerry, Tyrone and Dublin won't garner many points imo.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on November 26, 2018, 11:35:55 PM
Need to start off by saying the these experimental rules is going to make a mess of the league and such experiments should only be used in December,January challenges and the FBD,McKenna,O'Byrne cups.


They mentioned that on the radio earlier - these rules will make a mess of the league, how can a team train for one set of rules for the league and then revert back for the championship? The handpass one in particular
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on November 26, 2018, 11:42:02 PM
I doubt we'll back in the final next year anyway. We have a much tougher schedule of fixtures. Only 3 games at home to the two promoted sides and Kerry and 4 away games to Dublin, Mayo, Tyrone and Monaghan. Corofin players will be missing again also. If we can manage mid table mediocrity that would be grand. Should manage a couple of wins at home and maybe one on the road that would keep them up.

Dubs to reach the final yet again and maybe Mayo to join them if they get a new manager bounce from Horan.

I see that Scotstown have 5 (?) Monaghan starters so if they win the Ulster club on Sunday you'd expect Monaghan to struggle.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 27, 2018, 12:06:14 AM
Need to start off by saying the these experimental rules is going to make a mess of the league and such experiments should only be used in December,January challenges and the FBD,McKenna,O'Byrne cups.


They mentioned that on the radio earlier - these rules will make a mess of the league, how can a team train for one set of rules for the league and then revert back for the championship? The handpass one in particular

Yes very daft but those at the top in suits knows best and what does it matter what the players think  ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on November 27, 2018, 12:22:43 AM
It never mattered what mere players think.
Young buicíns in their 20s with semi developed brains.
What would they know compared to the wise old elders?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on November 27, 2018, 09:58:56 PM
It never mattered what mere players think.
Young buicíns in their 20s with semi developed brains.
What would they know compared to the wise old elders?

One of the most trenchant critics of the hoor in the White House is a Rossie.
You can take the man out of Ros but you can’t take Ros out of the man.
I think the parents cane from Boyle

John O. Brennan
@JohnBrennan
·
8h
Your feelings of inferiority, insecurity, vulnerability, and culpability are loud & clear. You remind me of how many corrupt authoritarian leaders abroad behaved before they were deposed. Bob Mueller’s name will be revered in the annals of U.S. history; your name will be scorned.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 27, 2018, 11:09:48 PM
It never mattered what mere players think.
Young buicíns in their 20s with semi developed brains.
What would they know compared to the wise old elders?

One of the most trenchant critics of the hoor in the White House is a Rossie.
You can take the man out of Ros but you can’t take Ros out of the man.
I think the parents cane from Boyle

John O. Brennan
@JohnBrennan
·
8h
Your feelings of inferiority, insecurity, vulnerability, and culpability are loud & clear. You remind me of how many corrupt authoritarian leaders abroad behaved before they were deposed. Bob Mueller’s name will be revered in the annals of U.S. history; your name will be scorned.

What has that post got to do with this thread?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Unlaoised on November 27, 2018, 11:31:04 PM
Dublin very kerry final

Dublin by 6
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on November 28, 2018, 07:04:31 AM
Did I hear correctly that Clifford is gone for the league? Some type of op?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on November 28, 2018, 08:57:47 AM
Did I hear correctly that Clifford is gone for the league? Some type of op?

That's what you get throwing a young lad in at the deep end early. He'll be finished as a player at 27.

The rule on the under 20's is the wrong way around. Under 20's should not be allowed to play senior.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: timmyot501 on November 28, 2018, 09:21:32 AM
Beggan, the 2 Hughes and Conor McCarthy when all fit are certain starters for Monaghan and would be a huge loss for the league should Scotstown win on Sunday.  Shane Carey also starts most games but is always battling for a spot with another couple of players that can do a similar job.  And then the county sub keeper, Conor Forde, is also the sub keeper for Scotstown so he'd be out too.......

That said I hope they win.  Might as well try and unearth another couple of players during the league anyway (even if Scotstown lose and these players are available)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2018, 12:08:04 PM
Did I hear correctly that Clifford is gone for the league? Some type of op?

That's what you get throwing a young lad in at the deep end early. He'll be finished as a player at 27.

The rule on the under 20's is the wrong way around. Under 20's should not be allowed to play senior.

The GAA haven't a clue how to manage players. From young lads playing u16 and minor in the Summer and u15 and u17 in the Winter to u20s playing club, Sigerson and County in 12 months.. I had to pull my 10 year old daughter from Camoige as they are training through the winter, she will return in April. Lip service...
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on November 29, 2018, 04:56:20 PM
Stick to Division 2 you :P
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Dinny Breen on November 29, 2018, 05:21:40 PM
Stick to Division 2 you :P

We just can't find a settled home..
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: cavanmaniac on November 30, 2018, 04:08:27 AM
I have a sneaky feeling Cavan might just survive in Division 1 by the skin of our teeth. We have a lot of seasoned performers and some returning AFAIK, a new manager bounce and a guy that seems to be going about things the right way, as well as experience in the top flight two seasons ago when we didn't do overly poorly, all things considered. I wouldn't write us off just yet. We might even completely realign the stars and beat Roscommon.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on December 05, 2018, 11:23:08 AM
Mark Bradley taking a year out, big blow to Tyrone?

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Dire Ear on December 05, 2018, 01:24:02 PM
Mark Bradley taking a year out, big blow to Tyrone?
Yes, would be- we don't have that many forwards that actually play as forwards, so we need the good ones that we have!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 17, 2019, 10:45:13 AM
Is Galway v Cavan confirmed for Salthill?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 17, 2019, 10:54:06 AM
Stick to Division 2 you :P

We just can't find a settled home..

Ros, Kildare and Cavan are on similar orbits but in different time zones

When they are up they are up
and when they are down they are down
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 17, 2019, 11:12:46 AM
Is Galway v Cavan confirmed for Salthill?

Yes it's confirmed for Pearse Stadium along with the Roscommon league game. Match against Kerry is the one scheduled for Tuam.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: giveballaghback on January 17, 2019, 11:25:05 AM
Stick to Division 2 you :P

We just can't find a settled home..
Took Galway a long time to get it up and it was the Tally viagra that kept ye up, I reakon ye will fall down this year ;D

Ros, Kildare and Cavan are on similar orbits but in different time zones

When they are up they are up
and when they are down they are down
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 17, 2019, 11:43:10 AM
Is Galway v Cavan confirmed for Salthill?

Yes it's confirmed for Pearse Stadium along with the Roscommon league game. Match against Kerry is the one scheduled for Tuam.

Doh, cheers

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 17, 2019, 12:01:33 PM
Very difficult to predict again this year. Galway & Kerry missing a lot of players through Crokes & Corofin and both teams are missing several players through injuries too.

Dublin 8/15
Kerry 13/2
Tyrone 8/1
Mayo 9/1
Galway 10/1
Monaghan 16/1
Roscommon 40/1
Cavan 50/1

Don't get Monaghan's odds, along with Tyrone I can't see them going down; Either side don't appear to be missing many players.

I think Roscommon & Cavan will go down but don't think its as clear cut as some seem to think.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 17, 2019, 12:30:44 PM
Very difficult to predict again this year. Galway & Kerry missing a lot of players through Crokes & Corofin and both teams are missing several players through injuries too.

Dublin 8/15
Kerry 13/2
Tyrone 8/1
Mayo 9/1
Galway 10/1
Monaghan 16/1
Roscommon 40/1
Cavan 50/1

Don't get Monaghan's odds, along with Tyrone I can't see them going down; Either side don't appear to be missing many players.

I think Roscommon & Cavan will go down but don't think its as clear cut as some seem to think.
It all depends whether or not counties are arsed in the League
Kerry have to pull all the stops out to stop the 5 in a row in September so may not be focused on February
You wouldn't know about Tyrone
Mayo are rebuilding
Galway might have less "intinsity" than last year

 I would be surprised if any of Ros and Cavan or both stayed up
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on January 17, 2019, 09:33:19 PM
Very difficult to predict again this year. Galway & Kerry missing a lot of players through Crokes & Corofin and both teams are missing several players through injuries too.

Dublin 8/15
Kerry 13/2
Tyrone 8/1
Mayo 9/1
Galway 10/1
Monaghan 16/1
Roscommon 40/1
Cavan 50/1

Don't get Monaghan's odds, along with Tyrone I can't see them going down; Either side don't appear to be missing many players.

I think Roscommon & Cavan will go down but don't think its as clear cut as some seem to think.

Monaghan definitely the value bet
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 17, 2019, 09:43:24 PM
Very difficult to predict again this year. Galway & Kerry missing a lot of players through Crokes & Corofin and both teams are missing several players through injuries too.

Dublin 8/15
Kerry 13/2
Tyrone 8/1
Mayo 9/1
Galway 10/1
Monaghan 16/1
Roscommon 40/1
Cavan 50/1

Don't get Monaghan's odds, along with Tyrone I can't see them going down; Either side don't appear to be missing many players.

I think Roscommon & Cavan will go down but don't think its as clear cut as some seem to think.

Monaghan definitely the value bet

Monaghan don't have the squad dept for to give the League a go and then have a go at the Ulster Championship! 16/1 is about right!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 17, 2019, 10:33:59 PM
Very difficult to predict again this year. Galway & Kerry missing a lot of players through Crokes & Corofin and both teams are missing several players through injuries too.

Dublin 8/15
Kerry 13/2
Tyrone 8/1
Mayo 9/1
Galway 10/1
Monaghan 16/1
Roscommon 40/1
Cavan 50/1

Don't get Monaghan's odds, along with Tyrone I can't see them going down; Either side don't appear to be missing many players.

I think Roscommon & Cavan will go down but don't think its as clear cut as some seem to think.

Monaghan definitely the value bet

Monaghan don't have the squad dept for to give the League a go and then have a go at the Ulster Championship! 16/1 is about right!

I don't think 16/1 is right for a team that finished 3rd in the league last year and just inches away from reaching the AI final. Kerry odds are far too short, Weren't that convincing in the league or championship last year and are in full blown transition now. New manager and loads of new and young players introduced into the team. No Crokes players will make things more difficult for them.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on January 17, 2019, 11:00:23 PM
In last 4 years cavan have played Galway twice in the league, once in salthill and once in Breffni. Cavan won both. The Breffni game was winner gets promoted to Div1. It's unfortunate we will be short gearoid McKiernan and a few others as I'd have fancied our chances with a full team.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 18, 2019, 06:26:14 PM
In last 4 years cavan have played Galway twice in the league, once in salthill and once in Breffni. Cavan won both. The Breffni game was winner gets promoted to Div1. It's unfortunate we will be short gearoid McKiernan and a few others as I'd have fancied our chances with a full team.
The second time was a straight fight for promotion iirc. I think Galway did better staying down another year because they clearly weren’t up to scratch later in the year. They needed more time.
Last year was a pleasant surprise and the super 8’s went well even if we are still a good bit behind the Dubs.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: giveballaghback on January 18, 2019, 07:36:03 PM
In last 4 years cavan have played Galway twice in the league, once in salthill and once in Breffni. Cavan won both. The Breffni game was winner gets promoted to Div1. It's unfortunate we will be short gearoid McKiernan and a few others as I'd have fancied our chances with a full team.
The second time was a straight fight for promotion iirc. I think Galway did better staying down another year because they clearly weren’t up to scratch later in the year. They needed more time.
Last year was a pleasant surprise and the super 8’s went well even if we are still a good bit behind the Dubs.
and a long long way behind Monaghan as well as lucky to beat Kildare.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 18, 2019, 07:38:43 PM
In last 4 years cavan have played Galway twice in the league, once in salthill and once in Breffni. Cavan won both. The Breffni game was winner gets promoted to Div1. It's unfortunate we will be short gearoid McKiernan and a few others as I'd have fancied our chances with a full team.
The second time was a straight fight for promotion iirc. I think Galway did better staying down another year because they clearly weren’t up to scratch later in the year. They needed more time.
Last year was a pleasant surprise and the super 8’s went well even if we are still a good bit behind the Dubs.

These things are all cycles. :)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 19, 2019, 08:18:16 PM
Very difficult to predict again this year. Galway & Kerry missing a lot of players through Crokes & Corofin and both teams are missing several players through injuries too.

Dublin 8/15
Kerry 13/2
Tyrone 8/1
Mayo 9/1
Galway 10/1
Monaghan 16/1
Roscommon 40/1
Cavan 50/1

Don't get Monaghan's odds, along with Tyrone I can't see them going down; Either side don't appear to be missing many players.

I think Roscommon & Cavan will go down but don't think its as clear cut as some seem to think.

Monaghan definitely the value bet

Monaghan don't have the squad dept for to give the League a go and then have a go at the Ulster Championship! 16/1 is about right!

I don't think 16/1 is right for a team that finished 3rd in the league last year and just inches away from reaching the AI final. Kerry odds are far too short, Weren't that convincing in the league or championship last year and are in full blown transition now. New manager and loads of new and young players introduced into the team. No Crokes players will make things more difficult for them.
I'd hang on to my money. It's a tough draw for Monaghan, even if they beat Dublin at home in the first game which is a tough ask, there are 4 away games where we'd be doing very good to win 2.
Tyrone look to be in a much better position with 4 home games, to finish in the top 2.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 20, 2019, 04:08:45 AM
Very difficult to predict again this year. Galway & Kerry missing a lot of players through Crokes & Corofin and both teams are missing several players through injuries too.

Dublin 8/15
Kerry 13/2
Tyrone 8/1
Mayo 9/1
Galway 10/1
Monaghan 16/1
Roscommon 40/1
Cavan 50/1

Don't get Monaghan's odds, along with Tyrone I can't see them going down; Either side don't appear to be missing many players.

I think Roscommon & Cavan will go down but don't think its as clear cut as some seem to think.

Monaghan definitely the value bet

Monaghan don't have the squad dept for to give the League a go and then have a go at the Ulster Championship! 16/1 is about right!

I don't think 16/1 is right for a team that finished 3rd in the league last year and just inches away from reaching the AI final. Kerry odds are far too short, Weren't that convincing in the league or championship last year and are in full blown transition now. New manager and loads of new and young players introduced into the team. No Crokes players will make things more difficult for them.
I'd hang on to my money. It's a tough draw for Monaghan, even if they beat Dublin at home in the first game which is a tough ask, there are 4 away games where we'd be doing very good to win 2.
Tyrone look to be in a much better position with 4 home games, to finish in the top 2.
An béal Bocht
Shur Monaghan have 3 all stars
And didn’t Tyrone lose the first 3 in a row last year? Wasn’t it great ould entertainment in a cold February?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on January 20, 2019, 04:27:14 AM
Beal bocht me arse , 2019 now ,dubs heading for total dominance ,mcAffrey shiftin young fellas and still people think they will be stopped , the end is nigh ,once  the jacks realised they could win all before and after ,twas over . County game is finished as we know it ,only a matter of time . When is enough enough ,five all Irelands ,six seven ? Tell me when
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 20, 2019, 01:37:57 PM
Beal bocht me arse , 2019 now ,dubs heading for total dominance ,mcAffrey shiftin young fellas and still people think they will be stopped , the end is nigh ,once  the jacks realised they could win all before and after ,twas over . County game is finished as we know it ,only a matter of time . When is enough enough ,five all Irelands ,six seven ? Tell me when
G'man, Larry looks like you had the few scoops last night by the looks of it and fair play to ye!   ;D
When will enough be enough? It will be enough when Croke Park is sold to some venture capitalists or vultures as us culchies would say. The 'For Sale' signs will be up on every GAA ground in the land.
What with the way the Dubs are steamrolling all around them and ordinary punters are forced to cough up €20 to go see some mickey mouse league game in January you don't need Specsavers to tell you yer eyesight is banjaxed if you don't see trouble ahead.
The Dubs will never give up or grow tired of winning everything is sight as long as they have a steady stream of talented young fellas snapping at the heels of boyos fighting like frig to hang on to their places.
The rest of us can go suck the hind tit, this is worse than the backstop!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mouview on January 20, 2019, 07:07:56 PM
In last 4 years cavan have played Galway twice in the league, once in salthill and once in Breffni. Cavan won both. The Breffni game was winner gets promoted to Div1. It's unfortunate we will be short gearoid McKiernan and a few others as I'd have fancied our chances with a full team.

Given Galway's turgid display today, allied to the amount of players who will be unavailable, I'd say Cavan will be a good bet to continue that winning run.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 22, 2019, 08:14:34 AM
Odds via Oddschecker

Dubs           4/7
Kerry          7/1
Throne        8/1
MGHU         10/1
Herrins        12/1
Monaghan    16/1
Ros             50/1
Cavan          100/1
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 22, 2019, 12:59:47 PM
Odds via Oddschecker

Dubs           4/7
Kerry          7/1
Throne        8/1
MGHU         10/1
Herrins        12/1
Monaghan    16/1
Ros             50/1
Cavan          100/1

And the relegation odds

Roscommon 8/15
Cavan 4/7
Monaghan 11/4
Galway 7/2
Mayo 4/1
Kerry 6/1
Tyrone 11/2
Dublin 33/1
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on January 22, 2019, 09:38:14 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: giveballaghback on January 22, 2019, 09:43:40 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.
Jaysus larrin, are you still doing the lotto?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 22, 2019, 10:51:13 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 22, 2019, 11:14:20 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 22, 2019, 11:42:23 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.

It's definitely not about the Journey if you are a Dublin supporter!  ;) You go ahead and hide behind your blind love of the game. As a spectacle and as as a competition the game is dead. The GAA Authorities don't know what to do. Look at the odds for the National League! Jesus wept!

Dads Army are done and dusted. The final nail is the Super 8! Two extra games for a group that now have a long list of injuries, wear and tear.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 23, 2019, 05:02:58 AM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.

It's definitely not about the Journey if you are a Dublin supporter!  ;) You go ahead and hide behind your blind love of the game. As a spectacle and as as a competition the game is dead. The GAA Authorities don't know what to do. Look at the odds for the National League! Jesus wept!

Dads Army are done and dusted. The final nail is the Super 8! Two extra games for a group that now have a long list of injuries, wear and tear.

It’s a structural crisis made up of

The gap between the Dubs and the rest. Competition is gone
Attendances /TV numbers
Numbers of players giving up
Funding imbalances
The game is not football any more. It is something else
The GAA is not on top of things
Rule chaos

It is not going to improve without radical change

Thank god for Mullinalaghta
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 23, 2019, 08:40:58 AM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.

It's definitely not about the Journey if you are a Dublin supporter!  ;) You go ahead and hide behind your blind love of the game. As a spectacle and as as a competition the game is dead. The GAA Authorities don't know what to do. Look at the odds for the National League! Jesus wept!

Dads Army are done and dusted. The final nail is the Super 8! Two extra games for a group that now have a long list of injuries, wear and tear.

Yea maybe. If Horan gives youth a chance then who knows. But this is a thread about the league. I would be happy if Mayo started to not let teams back into games if they have a good lead at half time, I'm sure this is a more pressing issue at training. Or I hope it would be.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 23, 2019, 03:52:42 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.

It's definitely not about the Journey if you are a Dublin supporter!  ;) You go ahead and hide behind your blind love of the game. As a spectacle and as as a competition the game is dead. The GAA Authorities don't know what to do. Look at the odds for the National League! Jesus wept!

Dads Army are done and dusted. The final nail is the Super 8! Two extra games for a group that now have a long list of injuries, wear and tear.
Do you honestly think anyone if going to buy that poor mouth last sentence? As spectacle the league is the most enjoyable competition the GAA have and those at the top use it as a trial ground for new rules that won't be used in the championship this summer. Anyway we'll see how dead it is by the attendance for Saturday night's game in MacHale Park.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 23, 2019, 03:57:33 PM
Is Mickey Graham double jobbing at the moment ?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 23, 2019, 04:22:05 PM
Is Mickey Graham double jobbing at the moment ?

Yes and Anthony Cunningham double jobbed with Garrycastle and Galway senior hurlers in 2012 and led both to All Ireland finals. If Mickey can get the same type of desire,commitment and work rate out of Cavan as he did Mullinalaghta they should stay up in Div one against the odds.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 23, 2019, 06:04:35 PM
Is Mickey Graham double jobbing at the moment ?

Yes and Anthony Cunningham double jobbed with Garrycastle and Galway senior hurlers in 2012 and led both to All Ireland finals. If Mickey can get the same type of desire,commitment and work rate out of Cavan as he did Mullinalaghta they should stay up in Div one against the odds.
He is a very good manager. That is a big plus for Cavan
I think Mayo might be vulnerable
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 23, 2019, 10:11:52 PM
Mayo team to play Roscommon

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Diarmuid O’Connor - Ballintubber
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
12. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
13. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Conor Diskin - Claremorris
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 23, 2019, 10:28:42 PM
Roscommon have used something like 55 players in 3/4 years.
How is that sustainable?
They are drifting away from the game, even at club level.

No jobs in likes of Roscommon
No pitches to train on
No free cars, holidays, clothing that a select few counties seem to get
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 23, 2019, 10:54:23 PM
Roscommon have used something like 55 players in 3/4 years.
How is that sustainable?
They are drifting away from the game, even at club level.

No jobs in likes of Roscommon
No pitches to train on
No free cars, holidays, clothing that a select few counties seem to get

There was a dream there (in Roscommon) for a few years. Great work was done at underage in the '00. It looked like it was only a matter of time and Roscommon would be dining at the top table. Success was always followed by a huge downer, once the Rossie got in with the big boys.

The dream is over for a lot of the present bunch. They know the standard they know how far away they are from it. They know how much better off the bigger guns are. It's easier to walk away than to prolong the pain, put your youth on hold and still get ridiculed at the end!

The GAA are not going to come up with a plan and money for Roscommon to help their Clubs and encourage more people away from Soccer and Rugby. And in turn to have a good intercounty team.  Why? Because Roscommon fans base is small and the GAA don't really care about small counties.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 23, 2019, 11:03:23 PM
Mayo team to play Roscommon

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Diarmuid O’Connor - Ballintubber
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
12. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
13. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Conor Diskin - Claremorris

Not a million miles off full strength bar one or two in the forwards.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 23, 2019, 11:30:40 PM
Mayo team to play Roscommon

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Diarmuid O’Connor - Ballintubber
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
12. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
13. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Conor Diskin - Claremorris

Not a million miles off full strength bar one or two in the forwards.

McLoughlin,O'Connor,Barrett will be first 15 probably replacing Diskin,Regan and O'Donoghue. Others such as A Moran,S O Shea,Clarke may have to settle for a place on the bench this year given their age.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on January 24, 2019, 12:06:58 AM
Nice to see ye're naming a MAYO team ;)
Keep that up and he might have Sam by year end.
As for Saturday...handy win for Ros.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on January 24, 2019, 12:16:35 AM
Mayo team to play Roscommon

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Diarmuid O’Connor - Ballintubber
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
12. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
13. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Conor Diskin - Claremorris

Midfield not great , Vaughan not proven in that position . OAP subs bench very worrying ,Aido fitness levels expected to be ridiculously low , Boyler will be at fault for a goal ,Higgins will be roasted best days are behind him . Reape and diskin could be chewed up in the intense battle expected sat night but will need the experience.

You never know on the night but I have a bad feeLing ros will sneak this one as they are in great shape .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 24, 2019, 12:21:14 AM
Mayo team to play Roscommon

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Diarmuid O’Connor - Ballintubber
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
12. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
13. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Conor Diskin - Claremorris

Midfield not great , Vaughan not proven in that position . OAP subs bench very worrying ,Aido fitness levels expected to be ridiculously low , Boyler will be at fault for a goal ,Higgins will be roasted best days are behind him . Reape and diskin could be chewed up in the intense battle expected sat night but will need the experience.

You never know on the night but I have a bad feeLing ros will sneak this one as they are in great shape .

I'd say truthfully Larry you are expecting Mayo to wrap up this contest against a patched up Roscommon team by half time.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on January 24, 2019, 01:15:54 AM
Truthfully I wouldn't back Mayo nor against them.  There is a bit of the unknown to mayo on two levels can our battle hardened seasoned lads produce one more good year like 16/17 and how our newbies take to the real stuff . I suspect we could be negative on both but who really knows till the action starts,  sure someone like Evan Regan might start bursting the net sat night out of nowhere but all we can form our opinion on is form and ours has been on a downward spiral since all Ireland final day 2017,let's be honest .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 24, 2019, 08:52:46 AM
Mayo team to play Roscommon

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Diarmuid O’Connor - Ballintubber
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
12. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
13. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Conor Diskin - Claremorris

Midfield not great , Vaughan not proven in that position . OAP subs bench very worrying ,Aido fitness levels expected to be ridiculously low , Boyler will be at fault for a goal ,Higgins will be roasted best days are behind him . Reape and diskin could be chewed up in the intense battle expected sat night but will need the experience.

You never know on the night but I have a bad feeLing ros will sneak this one as they are in great shape .

You're been lenient on Vaughan in midfield, he has proven himself unable to play there in my opinion. Hopefully Reape and Diskin can prove they're up to county standard. Worried about who'll take the frees, will Hennelly continue to take them?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Randy on January 24, 2019, 10:50:42 AM
Regan gets some amount of chances and has yet to deliver on any stage in my opinion. I hope that this year he finally starts to add some scores to his game.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 24, 2019, 11:16:42 AM
Regan gets some amount of chances and has yet to deliver on any stage in my opinion. I hope that this year he finally starts to add some scores to his game.
Mayo have been short on scoring forwards since 2012 which is very strange
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 24, 2019, 11:56:53 AM
Mayo team to play Roscommon

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Diarmuid O’Connor - Ballintubber
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
12. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
13. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Conor Diskin - Claremorris

Midfield not great , Vaughan not proven in that position . OAP subs bench very worrying ,Aido fitness levels expected to be ridiculously low , Boyler will be at fault for a goal ,Higgins will be roasted best days are behind him . Reape and diskin could be chewed up in the intense battle expected sat night but will need the experience.

You never know on the night but I have a bad feeLing ros will sneak this one as they are in great shape .

Your dream full forward line of Regan & Reape!

That team will beat Roscommon. Don't be taking too much notice of the FBD.

I have my doubt whether we'll ever see the best of Keegan, his athleticism is a big part of his game and he's had 2 very serious injuries in the last 18 months.

Mayo have an issue at full back but Harrison may solve that, looks like midfield is going to a bit of a problem though. Reape & Diskin might shoot the lights out and that might change your negativity.




Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mouview on January 24, 2019, 03:27:07 PM
Is Mickey Graham double jobbing at the moment ?

Yes and Anthony Cunningham double jobbed with Garrycastle and Galway senior hurlers in 2012 and led both to All Ireland finals. If Mickey can get the same type of desire,commitment and work rate out of Cavan as he did Mullinalaghta they should stay up in Div one against the odds.
He is a very good manager. That is a big plus for Cavan
I think Mayo might be vulnerable

I think a refreshed and very experienced Mayo could well go deep into the season this year, given the vacuum of any real decent teams out there, save you-know-who.
I think Galway will be very vulnerable this year; they won't have a full squad to pick from until late in the league and the manager's caution and limitations will ultimately fetter the team again I greatly fear.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: giveballaghback on January 24, 2019, 04:10:10 PM
Mayo team to play Roscommon

1. Robert Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Eoin O'Donoghue - Belmullet
3. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels(C)
8. Diarmuid O’Connor - Ballintubber
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fergal Boland - Aghamore
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
12. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
13. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Conor Diskin - Claremorris

Midfield not great , Vaughan not proven in that position . OAP subs bench very worrying ,Aido fitness levels expected to be ridiculously low , Boyler will be at fault for a goal ,Higgins will be roasted best days are behind him . Reape and diskin could be chewed up in the intense battle expected sat night but will need the experience.

You never know on the night but I have a bad feeLing ros will sneak this one as they are in great shape .

Your dream full forward line of Regan & Reape!

That team will beat Roscommon. Don't be taking too much notice of the FBD.

I have my doubt whether we'll ever see the best of Keegan, his athleticism is a big part of his game and he's had 2 very serious injuries in the last 18 months.

Mayo have an issue at full back but Harrison may solve that, looks like midfield is going to a bit of a problem though. Reape & Diskin might shoot the lights out and that might change your negativity.
I would be worrying about Cavan if I was you maroon mac, rhubarbs and rossie will look after their own corner, Cavan have turned ye over the last few times ye have played them and I would give them a fighting chance Sunday.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Lar Naparka on January 24, 2019, 04:44:21 PM
Regan gets some amount of chances and has yet to deliver on any stage in my opinion. I hope that this year he finally starts to add some scores to his game.
Mayo have been short on scoring forwards since 2012 which is very strange
Mayo were never noted for natural scoring forwards as far back as I can remember. There were a few okay but they were few and some were mighty good but by comparison with other position from goal out to midfield, fro goal out to midfield they were incredibly scarce.
Horan overcame that to a large extent by altering the way the team played as a unit and with everyone expected to muck in and, but for a truly bizarre run of poxy luck, they’d have a couple of All Irelands by now.
Dunno what James will come up with this year but I place a lot of confidence in him- after all what he did after the carnage in Longford back in 2010 was nothing short of a miracle.
This year it appears all the old hands are ready for another go and I don’t think Horan would have gone back of he didnt see some spark still left in his reliables. We’ve been writing the whole lot of them off for years now and they still haven’t shown any signs of having had enough.
Short term is hard to call and I dunno what will happen versus the sheep shaggers next week as it’s early days yet. But the likes of Diskin, Plunkeet and Reape are showing early promise. On the downside, there are a few others who have been neither on nor off the team for a couple of seasons now and for them, it’s surely make yer mind up time.
Regan is one and Conor Loftus is another- both showed they have great potential but both are iffy where reliability is concerned. The likes of Crowe, Coen, Kirby and Nally are a few of the others and you could include Fergal Boland as well. This could be their year and even if half of them step up to the mark, we could be motoring again.
Keep the faith!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 24, 2019, 06:02:17 PM
Is Mickey Graham double jobbing at the moment ?

Yes and Anthony Cunningham double jobbed with Garrycastle and Galway senior hurlers in 2012 and led both to All Ireland finals. If Mickey can get the same type of desire,commitment and work rate out of Cavan as he did Mullinalaghta they should stay up in Div one against the odds.
He is a very good manager. That is a big plus for Cavan
I think Mayo might be vulnerable

I think a refreshed and very experienced Mayo could well go deep into the season this year, given the vacuum of any real decent teams out there, save you-know-who.
I think Galway will be very vulnerable this year; they won't have a full squad to pick from until late in the league and the manager's caution and limitations will ultimately fetter the team again I greatly fear.
Pretty standard end of January Mouview there ;).
I think they kicked or maybe hand passed on a bit last year. Cavan didn’t but then again they have a good manager now
I was surprised at how easily teams rolled over in front of the maroon juggernaut last year in D1
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Aaron Boone on January 24, 2019, 07:12:46 PM
Kerry and Mayo have flirted with relegation the last 3 years, so one should go through the trapdoor this year. Tyrone have been more yo-yo this decade, used to be a sound bet for 8 or 10 points every year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 25, 2019, 10:55:19 AM
Kerry and Mayo have flirted with relegation the last 3 years, so one should go through the trapdoor this year. Tyrone have been more yo-yo this decade, used to be a sound bet for 8 or 10 points every year.
I was thinking along those lines as well
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 25, 2019, 11:03:29 AM
Kerry and Mayo have flirted with relegation the last 3 years, so one should go through the trapdoor this year. Tyrone have been more yo-yo this decade, used to be a sound bet for 8 or 10 points every year.

Saturday night will tell a lot about how Mayo are fixed for relegation. I think the three Connacht teams will struggle in Division One.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 25, 2019, 12:05:38 PM
Kerry and Mayo have flirted with relegation the last 3 years, so one should go through the trapdoor this year. Tyrone have been more yo-yo this decade, used to be a sound bet for 8 or 10 points every year.

Saturday night will tell a lot about how Mayo are fixed for relegation. I think the three Connacht teams will struggle in Division One.
Last year there was a clear split between the strong teams and the weak ones. Almost every match between a strong team and a weak one was won by the strong team
Dubs, Galway, Tyrone and Monaghan ended up in the AI SF

Kerry were weak and didn't make it out of the super 8. Mayo didn't even get that far. Kildare did well to make the last 8 . Donegal improved somewhat

So it depends how much Kerry and Mayo have improved and whether Ros and Cavan can kick on
 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 25, 2019, 12:13:22 PM
An odd request but I'm over for the weekend with no transport. Anyone on Galway/Mayo border that would have space in the car for a lift into Galway for the match? More than happy to contribute towards fuel or pay for a ticket.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 25, 2019, 09:03:45 PM
Predictions?

Mayo and Ros to draw.
Kerry to beat Tyrone.
Galway to struggle past Cavan.
Monaghan to beat the Dubs.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 25, 2019, 09:12:19 PM
The Galway team to play Cavan.

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Salthill Knocknacarra)
2. Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdowngaa)
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Cumann Peile Naomh Anna)
4. David Wynne (Cumann Peile Mhaigh Cuilinn)
5. Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
7. Seán Kelly (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
8. Thomas Flynn (Stmarysgaa Athenry)
9. Ciaran Duggan (Annaghdown)
10. Fintan Cooney (St. James')
11. Johnny Duane (St. James')
12. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
13. Danny Cummins (Claregalway)
14. Eoin Finnerty (Mountbellew Moylough)
15. Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin/Clonberne)

I think all bar two has started in Connacht finals?
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Post by: galwayman on January 25, 2019, 09:25:00 PM
The Galway team to play Cavan.

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Salthill Knocknacarra)
2. Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdowngaa)
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Cumann Peile Naomh Anna)
4. David Wynne (Cumann Peile Mhaigh Cuilinn)
5. Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
7. Seán Kelly (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
8. Thomas Flynn (Stmarysgaa Athenry)
9. Ciaran Duggan (Annaghdown)
10. Fintan Cooney (St. James')
11. Johnny Duane (St. James')
12. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
13. Danny Cummins (Claregalway)
14. Eoin Finnerty (Mountbellew Moylough)
15. Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin/Clonberne)

I think all bar two has started in Connacht finals?
That’s a poor forward unit is all I can say.
Duane and Heaney are backs, Cooney & Finnerty not up to that level imo.
David Wynne an extremely weak link in the fb line.
Walsh and Danny the only real scoring threats.
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Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 25, 2019, 09:28:01 PM
The Galway team to play Cavan.

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Salthill Knocknacarra)
2. Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdowngaa)
3. Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (Cumann Peile Naomh Anna)
4. David Wynne (Cumann Peile Mhaigh Cuilinn)
5. Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
7. Seán Kelly (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
8. Thomas Flynn (Stmarysgaa Athenry)
9. Ciaran Duggan (Annaghdown)
10. Fintan Cooney (St. James')
11. Johnny Duane (St. James')
12. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
13. Danny Cummins (Claregalway)
14. Eoin Finnerty (Mountbellew Moylough)
15. Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin/Clonberne)

I think all bar two has started in Connacht finals?

So Heaney is the only one who made it from the four injured in the FBD final. M Daly, Kyne and McDaid all missing unless one or two are on the bench. Some of the NUIG lads missing as they played last Wednesday and play again next Wednesday presumably.

I will say that Walsh has some fascination with putting defenders in the half-forward line. Constantly does it. I know his choices are limited this week but still.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 25, 2019, 09:42:42 PM
Johnny Duane at CHF?! I'll be very interested who is on the subs bench on the programme Sunday to see who is missing out if that's where we are at, some injuries to deal with granted, but still...
I've an open mind on the likes of Cooney and Finnerty, we'll see how it goes for them. When was the last time Danny Cummins started a match for Galway? He'll need to hit the ground running the way things are shaping up.
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Post by: Duine Eile on January 25, 2019, 09:47:57 PM
Not exactly going to be an open free flowing game then, how many defenders can you name on one team!  :-\ Bradshaw, Duggan, Cooney had stinkers last week, lets hope things improve Sunday. Both Dalys must be carrying injuries. That said, I wonder is Sigerson a contributing factor here? A lot of lads played this week and they're out again next week. Can't see that team beating Cavan to be honest and this is one game we really need 2 points from.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on January 25, 2019, 09:49:15 PM
Johnny Duane at CHF?! I'll be very interested who is on the subs bench on the programme Sunday to see who is missing out if that's where we are at, some injuries to deal with granted, but still...
I've an open mind on the likes of Cooney and Finnerty, we'll see how it goes for them. When was the last time Danny Cummins started a match for Galway? He'll need to hit the ground running the way things are shaping up.
McHugh is dropped presumably?
Cunningham not going to get a look in by the looks of it at this stage given how many forwards are out already.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on January 25, 2019, 09:52:20 PM
Not exactly going to be an open free flowing game then, how many defenders can you name on one team!  :-\ Bradshaw, Duggan, Cooney had stinkers last week, lets hope things improve Sunday. Both Dalys must be carrying injuries. That said, I wonder is Sigerson a contributing factor here? A lot of lads played this week and they're out again next week. Can't see that team beating Cavan to be honest and this is one game we really need 2 points from.
John Daly tweaked his hamstring in the Mayo game.
Did not tog for NUIG in Sigerson.
We could struggle for scores on Sunday.
It’s hard to know what Cavan are like.
Shane Walsh the only freetaker in the team too with McHugh not selected.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on January 25, 2019, 09:58:28 PM
McHugh injured too according to Galway Bay this evening. Surely there's a couple of half decent forwards that were in the training squad or are we that stuck that we need to be naming defenders in the forwards? The sooner Corofin finish their club campaign the better!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mrdeeds on January 25, 2019, 09:58:50 PM
Not exactly going to be an open free flowing game then, how many defenders can you name on one team!  :-\ Bradshaw, Duggan, Cooney had stinkers last week, lets hope things improve Sunday. Both Dalys must be carrying injuries. That said, I wonder is Sigerson a contributing factor here? A lot of lads played this week and they're out again next week. Can't see that team beating Cavan to be honest and this is one game we really need 2 points from.
John Daly tweaked his hamstring in the Mayo game.
Did not tog for NUIG in Sigerson.
We could struggle for scores on Sunday.
It’s hard to know what Cavan are like.
Shane Walsh the only freetaker in the team too with McHugh not selected.

We don't know what we're like. Gearoid obviously huge loss and we have a lot of new panellists in who are very young and light.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 25, 2019, 10:00:23 PM
Not exactly going to be an open free flowing game then, how many defenders can you name on one team!  :-\ Bradshaw, Duggan, Cooney had stinkers last week, lets hope things improve Sunday. Both Dalys must be carrying injuries. That said, I wonder is Sigerson a contributing factor here? A lot of lads played this week and they're out again next week. Can't see that team beating Cavan to be honest and this is one game we really need 2 points from.

I'm not a betting man but Cavan at 11/4 is looking serious value, coming in from 3-1 at start of the week.
Midfield will have to absolutely boss the game for Galway to get enough chances to kick any reasonable score I think.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 25, 2019, 10:00:49 PM
Why not give Cunningham a go in the corner and move Shane Walsh to 11? I mean you probably learn more from that than sticking more defenders up front.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on January 25, 2019, 10:06:15 PM
Why not give Cunningham a go in the corner and move Shane Walsh to 11? I mean you probably learn more from that than sticking more defenders up front.
Yeah Cunningham well capable of playing 11 also. Lethal pace.
Look he may or may not be up to the required standard - I would say there are question marks about his workrate and physicality for that level of football - but the only way to find out is to give him a start and see how he does.
Not 5-10 mins at the end of a game - you learn nothing.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on January 25, 2019, 10:06:53 PM
Cunningham looked lively when he came on last week, he deserves a chance at this stage. Don't know what to make of the inclusion of Danny Cummins, hadn't kicked a ball in over a year until last Sunday and didn't cover himself in glory. Duane at 11 is a ridiculous move, big pressure on Finnerty too, he's being thrown in the deep end. This is a day Shane Walsh needs to shine, we'll see. I'd hope we'd see Comer and Daly on the subs bench. Daly led the come back against Mayo in the FBD.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 25, 2019, 10:12:18 PM
I had expected to see Cunnigham get a run in the league this year after playing very well for the Juniors last year and being in the overall Galway setup during the year. As his clubman said there if he's not up to it then fine but give the chance in from the start at least.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on January 25, 2019, 10:12:55 PM
Cunningham looked lively when he came on last week, he deserves a chance at this stage. Don't know what to make of the inclusion of Danny Cummins, hadn't kicked a ball in over a year until last Sunday and didn't cover himself in glory. Duane at 11 is a ridiculous move, big pressure on Finnerty too, he's being thrown in the deep end. This is a day Shane Walsh needs to shine, we'll see. I'd hope we'd see Comer and Daly on the subs bench. Daly led the come back against Mayo in the FBD.
He is injured though. Didn’t play for NUIG on Wednesday.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on January 25, 2019, 10:23:29 PM
Presumably McDaid is still carrying that hamstring injury he picked up last weekend also.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Gael85 on January 25, 2019, 10:25:41 PM
Why not give Cunningham a go in the corner and move Shane Walsh to 11? I mean you probably learn more from that than sticking more defenders up front.

Is that the lad who played soccer with Galway Utd?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on January 25, 2019, 10:26:15 PM
That's him.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mrdeeds on January 25, 2019, 11:16:09 PM
TEAM NEWS: Panel to play Galway Announced.

Mickey Graham & his management have named the panel for this Sunday’s Allianz Football League Round 1 game v Galway. Throw in is 2.30pm in Pearse Stadium, Salthill.

This game is part of a double header with Galway playing Laois in Allianz Hurling League at 12.30pm.

The team sees league debuts set for Crosserlough club mates Conor Rehill and Pierce Smith.

Panel v Galway
1. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
2. Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels)
3. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
4. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
5. Niall Murray (Cavan Gaels)
6. Ciaran Brady (Arvagh)
7. Conor Rehill (Crosserlough)
8. Michael Argue (Bailieborough)
9. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
10. Pierce Smith (Crosserlough)
11. Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)
12. Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
13. Jack Brady (Ramor United)
14. Thomas Galligan (Lacken)
15. Conor Madden (Gowna)

16. Liam Brady (Ramor United)
17. Barry Fortune (Cavan Gaels)
18. Stephen Murray (Cavan Gaels)
19. Paul Graham (Cavan Gaels)
20. Stephen Smith (Crosserlough)
21. Luke Fortune (Cavan Gaels)
22. Killian Brady (Mullahoran)
23. James Galligan (Lacken)
24. Oisin Pierson (Gowna)
25. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
26. Kevin Tierney (Ballyhaise)

http://cavangaa.ie/2019/01/senior-panel-play-galway/
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Post by: Duine Eile on January 25, 2019, 11:34:24 PM
Isn't it great to see a panel announcement rather than a team announcement, we're always being told it's a panel game, name your panel then managers!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mrdeeds on January 25, 2019, 11:35:55 PM
Isn't it great to see a panel announcement rather than a team announcement, we're always being told it's a panel game, name your panel then managers!

Well you have to name your 26 by Wednesday or you're fined.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on January 25, 2019, 11:51:02 PM
Listen cavan are in with a shout but Galway are still favourites and it's a midfield they could win this game. Clarke won't play there, so you'll have Thomas galligan and argue who are untested at this level.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Westside on January 26, 2019, 10:26:22 AM
Cavan have a puncher's chance here but not much more. Gearoid is a massive loss. We have players who aren't proven at this level, our bench is inexperienced and Galway have been operating at a level we haven't gotten close to in years.

That said, happy with the team as named. If they gel well together I expect them to give a decent account of themselves
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: giveballaghback on January 26, 2019, 02:06:36 PM
Im hearing Andy Moran is starting for the rhubarbs this evening, good to see them giving youth a chance 8)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 26, 2019, 02:10:27 PM
Im hearing Andy Moran is starting for the rhubarbs this evening, good to see them giving youth a chance 8)
No surprise if that happens. Probably would have started Barrett,McLoughlin,O'Connor if they were available and fit to start also. Horan laying down a marker that Mayo are taking the league very serious this year.
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Post by: From the Bunker on January 26, 2019, 02:50:42 PM
Im hearing Andy Moran is starting for the rhubarbs this evening, good to see them giving youth a chance 8)
No surprise if that happens. Probably would have started Barrett,McLoughlin,O'Connor if they were available and fit to start also. Horan laying down a marker that Mayo are taking the league very serious this year.

It'll be taken as serious by him as he took the FBD! This time of the year is all about getting back from injury or not getting injured in the first place!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 26, 2019, 03:08:56 PM
Im hearing Andy Moran is starting for the rhubarbs this evening, good to see them giving youth a chance 8)
No surprise if that happens. Probably would have started Barrett,McLoughlin,O'Connor if they were available and fit to start also. Horan laying down a marker that Mayo are taking the league very serious this year.

It'll be taken as serious by him as he took the FBD! This time of the year is all about getting back from injury or not getting injured in the first place!

FBD line ups were half strength and tonight is close to championship starting team. Now can be debated is there a need to be starting so many seasoned campaigners at this time of year with loads of mileage on the clock but as i said in page 1 of this thread time is running out for the older players to win national title.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: giveballaghback on January 26, 2019, 03:11:00 PM
So if Mayo dont win a competition they are not taking it seriously, taking that into account what competitions have they taken seriously these last few years ::)
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Post by: Farrandeelin on January 26, 2019, 04:01:25 PM
Im hearing Andy Moran is starting for the rhubarbs this evening, good to see them giving youth a chance 8)

In place of Who?
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Post by: Blowitupref on January 26, 2019, 04:16:10 PM
Im hearing Andy Moran is starting for the rhubarbs this evening, good to see them giving youth a chance 8)

In place of Who?

Conor Diskin is the rumour. 

 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Solo_run on January 26, 2019, 07:22:03 PM
Entertaining game so far Ros 0-5 Mayo 0-1
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 26, 2019, 07:22:36 PM
20 mins played. Mayo 0-1 Roscommon 0-5. Dreadful weather conditions Roscommon have the strong wind in this half.
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Post by: clarshack on January 26, 2019, 07:31:53 PM
 Donnie smith should be embarrassed there.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Solo_run on January 26, 2019, 07:32:58 PM
Donnie smith should be embarrassed there.

Very cynical
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Solo_run on January 26, 2019, 07:38:34 PM
Mayo 0-1(scored a free in 3rd minute)
Roscommon 0-5 (17 mins since last score/6 wides)

36mins
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 07:40:14 PM
Mayo are a horrible cynical side. Pulling and dragging.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on January 26, 2019, 07:41:37 PM
Mayo are a horrible cynical side. Pulling and dragging.

Lovely eye gouge by the Rossies
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 07:44:52 PM
That was one isolated incident. Mayo on the otherhand
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on January 26, 2019, 07:45:41 PM
Rob Hennelly is an accident waiting to happen. Donie Smith deserves a serious ban for that, Higgins did well to hold his temper.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyHarp on January 26, 2019, 07:46:01 PM
Turns out Donie Smith is a big diver.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2019, 07:49:32 PM
Usual cynical old Connacht football.

I'd say Cunningham is trying to toughen up the Roscommon lads alright. He did the same with the Galway hurlers initially. But he probably didn't have in mind what Donie Smith did.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on January 26, 2019, 07:49:57 PM
That was one isolated incident. Mayo on the otherhand

Pulling and dragging can’t be compared to intentionally trying to inflict a serious eye injury on an opponent. (And then jumping on the ground like you’ve been shot)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 26, 2019, 07:51:12 PM
Awful night for football looks near impossible to score against that wind from play.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 07:53:35 PM
That was one isolated incident. Mayo on the otherhand

Pulling and dragging can’t be compared to intentionally trying to inflict a serious eye injury on an opponent. (And then jumping on the ground like you’ve been shot)

It was a shite thing to do and no doubt will get an adequate ban.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: brianboru00 on January 26, 2019, 07:55:19 PM
That was one isolated incident. Mayo on the otherhand

Pulling and dragging can’t be compared to intentionally trying to inflict a serious eye injury on an opponent. (And then jumping on the ground like you’ve been shot)

Are you with eir sport?

Smith should have seen red 100% anf deserves a ban . But why did the tv slow mo that part of the incident and not the possible head butt ??
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on January 26, 2019, 07:56:24 PM
Expect mayo to make dog shite of the Rossies in second half with that wind.


Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2019, 07:59:06 PM
The camera in the stand must have blown away. We're getting the pitch side camera for the 2nd half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on January 26, 2019, 08:00:03 PM
That was one isolated incident. Mayo on the otherhand

Pulling and dragging can’t be compared to intentionally trying to inflict a serious eye injury on an opponent. (And then jumping on the ground like you’ve been shot)

Are you with eir sport?

Smith should have seen red 100% anf deserves a ban . But why did the tv slow mo that part of the incident and not the possible head butt ??

Showed it at half time and the (Dublin) analyst said there was nothing in it
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: brianboru00 on January 26, 2019, 08:05:25 PM
That was one isolated incident. Mayo on the otherhand

Pulling and dragging can’t be compared to intentionally trying to inflict a serious eye injury on an opponent. (And then jumping on the ground like you’ve been shot)

Are you with eir sport?

Smith should have seen red 100% anf deserves a ban . But why did the tv slow mo that part of the incident and not the possible head butt ??

Showed it at half time and the (Dublin) analyst said there was nothing in it

Yes. Thats my point .
From what I saw it was a head butt. But it wasn t scrutinised . It absolutely should have been
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyHarp on January 26, 2019, 08:08:37 PM
That was one isolated incident. Mayo on the otherhand

Pulling and dragging can’t be compared to intentionally trying to inflict a serious eye injury on an opponent. (And then jumping on the ground like you’ve been shot)

Are you with eir sport?

Smith should have seen red 100% anf deserves a ban . But why did the tv slow mo that part of the incident and not the possible head butt ??

Showed it at half time and the (Dublin) analyst said there was nothing in it

Yes. Thats my point .
From what I saw it was a head butt. But it wasn t scrutinised . It absolutely should have been

His pathetic dive in an attempt to get a man red carded should be scrutinised.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Solo_run on January 26, 2019, 08:16:26 PM
Donal Shine Eye gouge

https://gph.is/2RQor6J (https://gph.is/2RQor6J)

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 08:27:28 PM
Donnie Shine Eye gouge

https://gph.is/2RQor6J (https://gph.is/2RQor6J)

Donnie Shine hasn't played in years
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Post by: Solo_run on January 26, 2019, 08:36:22 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/7NLy6guV1A8twSx8A0/giphy.gif
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 26, 2019, 08:37:00 PM
Roscommon needed a bigger lead at the break. The wind was getting progressively worse as the game went on. Expected result though. Mayo had not far off their strongest side out.

Classic January football.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rudi on January 26, 2019, 08:39:50 PM
Ref rode us too. 10 steps for Mayo goal. DOC not a nice fella.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on January 26, 2019, 08:41:59 PM
Ref rode us too. 10 steps for Mayo goal. DOC not a nice fella.

I didn’t know it was April 1st
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on January 26, 2019, 08:46:46 PM
Ref rode us too. 10 steps for Mayo goal. DOC not a nice fella.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Solo_run on January 26, 2019, 08:47:38 PM

 (https://ibb.co/zGjrt8V)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 26, 2019, 08:54:40 PM
Mayo had to win that one this evening. That takes a bit of pressure off staying in the Division.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 26, 2019, 08:59:04 PM
Couldn't have a worse night for a game of football. Just 1 point separated the sides in the end and Roscommon will be kicking themselves that they only managed 0-5 1st half with that very strong wind. Mayo will hardly care, wasn't pretty but they had the experience to grind out the win.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 26, 2019, 09:01:20 PM
That was one isolated incident. Mayo on the otherhand

Pulling and dragging can’t be compared to intentionally trying to inflict a serious eye injury on an opponent. (And then jumping on the ground like you’ve been shot)

Are you with eir sport?

Smith should have seen red 100% anf deserves a ban . But why did the tv slow mo that part of the incident and not the possible head butt ??

Showed it at half time and the (Dublin) analyst said there was nothing in it

Yes. Thats my point .
From what I saw it was a head butt. But it wasn t scrutinised . It absolutely should have been

His pathetic dive in an attempt to get a man red carded should be scrutinised.
Judging by his face clutching and pathetic dive you'd swear he just had his hair lightly ruffled.

Apart from that I thought the  Rossies were more hard done by the ref, who turned a blind eye to foot blocks, dragging etc inflicted against them  and seemed to concede to every physicality inflicted against Mayo
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Post by: cornetto on January 26, 2019, 09:11:12 PM
Were people able to stream eir sport tonight?
Tried mobdro and firstone TV to no avail. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 26, 2019, 09:13:16 PM
I could stream it fine using vaders iptv.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: brianboru00 on January 26, 2019, 09:31:43 PM
Probably a fair result . Roscommon far closer to mayo than two years ago at the same venue and similar conditions.  AC can take credit for that with far more organisation particularly in defence. .
How much of that closeness is mayo going back v ros going torward is another matter .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 26, 2019, 09:35:36 PM
Just in, and changed and slightly warmed up. The only thing that can be got from that game was the 2 points which Mayo will be happy to take. Terrible game in horrendous conditions.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: oliverkelly on January 26, 2019, 09:44:13 PM
That was one isolated incident. Mayo on the otherhand

Pulling and dragging can’t be compared to intentionally trying to inflict a serious eye injury on an opponent. (And then jumping on the ground like you’ve been shot)

Are you with eir sport?

Smith should have seen red 100% anf deserves a ban . But why did the tv slow mo that part of the incident and not the possible head butt ??

Showed it at half time and the (Dublin) analyst said there was nothing in it

Yes. Thats my point .
From what I saw it was a head butt. But it wasn t scrutinised . It absolutely should have been

His pathetic dive in an attempt to get a man red carded should be scrutinised.
Judging by his face clutching and pathetic dive you'd swear he just had his hair lightly ruffled.

Apart from that I thought the  Rossies were more hard done by the ref, who turned a blind eye to foot blocks, dragging etc inflicted against them  and seemed to concede to every physicality inflicted against Mayo

Ref was a disgrace rode roscommon for 70 minutes. Donie smith should be banned for the eye gouge cant be at that. N
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: SCFC on January 26, 2019, 10:25:03 PM
How many steps did Reape take for his goal? 10, 12? Refs keep missing that.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 26, 2019, 10:27:30 PM
How many steps did Reape take for his goal? 10, 12? Refs keep missing that.
Ah, but the forward has to get the advantage
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 26, 2019, 10:30:07 PM
Considering the team that mayo had out i think Roscommon will be very happy.
Mayo are worth at least 5/6 home town calls by the ref in most games
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: oliverkelly on January 26, 2019, 10:32:35 PM
How many steps did Reape take for his goal? 10, 12? Refs keep missing that.
Ah, but the forward has to get the advantage
Advantage?? What the f you on about? He wasnt fouled took about 10 steps and scored a peach of a goal. Should have been a free out for over carrying. But cassidy has been a disgrace any game he has done involving Roscommon last few years. Mayo got frees for nothing the whole game was embarrassing one sided by the clown
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Post by: Cunny Funt on January 26, 2019, 10:37:34 PM
Probably a fair result . Roscommon far closer to mayo than two years ago at the same venue and similar conditions.  AC can take credit for that with far more organisation particularly in defence. .
How much of that closeness is mayo going back v ros going torward is another matter .
I don't think either side did enough to deserve a win tonight, the Reape goal was decisive and it could easily have been pulled up for steps. The 2011 Connacht final was a similar match played in similar conditions and Mayo kicked on after that win.
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Post by: JoG2 on January 26, 2019, 10:47:27 PM
Huge credit to both teams for a serious battle in attrocious conditions, conditions which make the game a bit of a lottery. Its funny reading posts and the sheer bias for or against a certain county is plain to see. The ref didn't overly 'ride' either team imo. Both teams were cynical at times, players from both over carried at times etc etc...,

Is there a specific ban for an eye gouge does anyone know? D Smith deserves a very hefty ban for that carryon, nasty.
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Post by: Main Street on January 26, 2019, 11:00:56 PM
Back to more serious matters, much more serious than a mere eye gouge. The Dubs will be  landing in a nearby Clones airfield on Sunday midday (in some drumlin free location)  to resume hostilities with Monaghan. Dubs manager Gavin has picked his strongest available team, such is his desperation not to get beaten by Monaghan yet again.
It's hard to tell where Monaghan are at right now, if the Tyrone McKenna cup is anything to go by then they're in for a hiding, but on the other hand it's hard to imagine that the Monaghan players  will not be xxx motivated.  McManus is named as a sub, however that does not mean he will not start.  I'll back Monaghan regardless, follow proceedings on TG4.
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Post by: oliverkelly on January 26, 2019, 11:06:58 PM
Huge credit to both teams for a serious battle in attrocious conditions, conditions which make the game a bit of a lottery. Its funny reading posts and the sheer bias for or against a certain county is plain to see. The ref didn't overly 'ride' either team imo. Both teams were cynical at times, players from both over carried at times etc etc...,

Is there a specific ban for an eye gouge does anyone know? D Smith deserves a very hefty ban for that carryon, nasty.
Dont know what game you were observing if you think ref made bade decisions for both sides that wasnt the case what so ever one side clearly got a helping hand by the ref.
On the gouging deserves a long ban not a nice action but similar imcidents like donaghy and mcmahon got off for simular incidents so be interesting see the outcome during the week
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Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 26, 2019, 11:23:12 PM
Great goal by Reape, especially with the Roscommon Messi hanging out of him.

Awful conditions, really awful, hard to describe how bad
The final score certainly gave it a gloss for Roscommon that wasn’t there in person, they are headed straight down if this is anything to go by.
First half they had nobody to shoot from distance like Doc did in the second half. Smith missed some awful handy frees when there were other lads looking to take them.
Mayo won the game in two spells, the first in the first half when they held the ball for a solid five minutes, great skill in awful conditions. Without ever threatening to score keeping the ball was enough.
For 10 minutes in the second half they swarmed the middle, won dirty ball and got the scores to go ahead.

The eye gouge may not have been intentional. There’s certainly a case for that.

Not sure what match the rossies on here were watching, maybe it looked different on the telly
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Post by: Blowitupref on January 26, 2019, 11:38:13 PM
Great goal by Reape, especially with the Roscommon Messi hanging out of him.

Awful conditions, really awful, hard to describe how bad
The final score certainly gave it a gloss for Roscommon that wasn’t there in person, they are headed straight down if this is anything to go by.
First half they had nobody to shoot from distance like Doc did in the second half. Smith missed some awful handy frees when there were other lads looking to take them.
Mayo won the game in two spells, the first in the first half when they held the ball for a solid five minutes, great skill in awful conditions. Without ever threatening to score keeping the ball was enough.
For 10 minutes in the second half they swarmed the middle, won dirty ball and got the scores to go ahead.

The eye gouge may not have been intentional. There’s certainly a case for that.

Not sure what match the rossies on here were watching, maybe it looked different on the telly
I recall at least two of their first half scores as long distance ones however only scoring 5 times from 14 attempts 1st half proved costly not to mention the open goal chance kicked wide.
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Post by: Rossfan on January 27, 2019, 10:49:09 AM
Good competitive tough game in absolutely appalling conditions.
Mayowestros were better at scoring than we were :o which was the deciding factor.
Mind you it also helped that they had the vast majority of the possession.
Our new found meanness and hardness got another outing as did our new defensive organised game plan.
I believe we only had 4 of the Connacht Final team on duty yet we still put it up to them and lost due to an appallingly illegal goal -15 steps, 20.....?

While the supporters may feel positive enough with the attitude and performance no doubt management will be looking at the many things we got wrong and will set about righting them.
Which is what management is all about.


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Post by: TheMaster on January 27, 2019, 11:13:39 AM
10 steps allowed for mayo players
Considering the strength of the two teams I would have thought mayo would win that easier
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Post by: Farrandeelin on January 27, 2019, 12:12:34 PM
There were a number of times Roscommon players took more than 4 steps last night too.
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Post by: Rossfan on January 27, 2019, 12:42:55 PM
Most players of all teams do but that episode leading to the goal was appalling.
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Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 27, 2019, 12:43:10 PM
No comment from the rossies on yer wing forwards constant, and I mean constant, provoking of Keegan for the nite? Maybe if he spent time playing even a little bit of football ye’d do better.
I’m sure Rudi or some other lad will come back with “well there was two of them at it”, there wasn’t, it was him solidly for the first half trying to get a rise out of Keegan, right in front of the linesman too. If Keegan has reacted the same linesman would have been straight up with the flag
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Post by: Rossfan on January 27, 2019, 01:06:23 PM
Arrah Boo Hoo .
I suspect Keegan has had much worse to deal with in training.
And how many times did "Leroy" turn round and keep pushing little Kilroy in the chest".
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Post by: Farrandeelin on January 27, 2019, 01:13:25 PM
Arrah Boo Hoo .
I suspect Keegan has had much worse to deal with in training.
And how many times did "Leroy" turn round and keep pushing little Kilroy in the chest".

 ;D he was trying to push the little buckeen out of the way.
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Post by: Schkite on January 27, 2019, 01:42:56 PM
No changes to the Monaghan team, very unlike Malachy. I definitely expected McManus to come in anyway, big day for the younger forwards like Bannigan and Garland to step up.
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Post by: SouthDublinBro on January 27, 2019, 02:15:02 PM
Quality goal. There will be a few red cards for the Monaghan boys today if Mcgoldrick does his job properly.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2019, 02:33:27 PM
Brutal refereeing
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Post by: hardstation on January 27, 2019, 02:36:35 PM
Hasn’t a clue.
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Post by: Blowitupref on January 27, 2019, 02:40:43 PM
Good open game of football the ref not having his best of games but at least he is letting it flow.  HT Monaghan 0-8 Dublin 1-7
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Post by: Hound on January 27, 2019, 02:50:37 PM
Both black cards very harsh. Not deliberate pull downs, so yellow was appropriate colour.
Although I would have allowed the McCarron goal.
Monaghan did very well to get right back into the game after a very good opening quarter from the Dubs.
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Post by: Harold Disgracey on January 27, 2019, 02:56:56 PM
Paudie Hughes on for the second half!
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Post by: Schkite on January 27, 2019, 02:58:50 PM
Decent game for it being the first round and a good few players missing. A bit of bite about it and both sides are up for the fight. I've no problem with that at all, even if Coldrick isn't having his best showing.

I really feared for Monaghan when I seen there'd be no changes and seeing the start we made against a sharp Dubs side. A few inexperienced lads looked a little lost and the more experienced lads looked rusty and were making sloppy mistakes. But they've grown into the game more and that's not a bad score at HT at all. Tasty second half in store
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Post by: Harold Disgracey on January 27, 2019, 03:08:19 PM
Cracking goal.
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Post by: yellowcard on January 27, 2019, 03:09:20 PM
That was some goal by the Monaghan sub.
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Post by: Blowitupref on January 27, 2019, 03:10:58 PM
A lot of changes to the Galway team. A surprise that Corofin players are playing. Half time Galway 0-5 Cavan 0-5
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dx7K6vkXcAY4aXP.jpg:large
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Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 27, 2019, 03:12:13 PM
Oh look, another goal

Even though he threw it in
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Post by: Schkite on January 27, 2019, 03:15:37 PM
Serious impact off the bench from McManus and O'Hanlon. No surprise with McManus of course, but great to see O'Hanlon doing so well immediately on his league debut. He had a cracking season for the club last year and alot of people were excited to see how he'd do when called up for the county.
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Post by: yellowcard on January 27, 2019, 03:24:44 PM
O’Hanlon has had some impact, looks a very direct player just goes straight for goal similar in style to David Clifford.
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Post by: Godsown on January 27, 2019, 03:30:08 PM
Coldrick had nightmare 1st half . Did Gavin sub him at half time?  Hughes even worse in second half
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Post by: imtommygunn on January 27, 2019, 03:32:32 PM
Johnny Cooper can be a bit of a thug at times. Hard to like him.
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Post by: hardstation on January 27, 2019, 03:33:34 PM
Johnny Cooper can be a bit of a thug at times. Hard to like him.
“Can be....at times” indeed. It’s his game.
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Post by: imtommygunn on January 27, 2019, 03:35:59 PM
 ;D Pretty much yeah.
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Post by: Schkite on January 27, 2019, 03:38:07 PM
Johnny Cooper can be a bit of a thug at times. Hard to like him.

McManus putting him on his hole after they tangled might be the best thing that happened today!
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Post by: lenny on January 27, 2019, 03:41:23 PM
Johnny Cooper can be a bit of a thug at times. Hard to like him.

Used to really like watching jack mccarron but he let himself down today with a few pieces of blatant playacting.
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Post by: From the Bunker on January 27, 2019, 03:41:35 PM
Coldrick had nightmare 1st half . Did Gavin sub him at half time?  Hughes even worse in second half

Hughes seemed to have no notion of the Advantage rule.
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Post by: imtommygunn on January 27, 2019, 03:41:43 PM
Yeah though I thought I might have got a black card for that. Cooper notorious for that - it’s what he goaded Seamus o’shea into in the ai final.
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Post by: yellowcard on January 27, 2019, 03:42:24 PM
Good win for Monaghan, I think they are realistic AI contenders. Dublin were well outplayed today apart from the first 15 minutes, they don’t lose too many games so it is a big feather in Monaghans cap to beat them in consecutive League campaigns.
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Post by: From the Bunker on January 27, 2019, 03:43:19 PM
Good win for Monaghan, I think they are realistic AI contenders. Dublin were well outplayed today apart from the first 15 minutes, they don’t lose too many games so it is a big feather in Monaghans cap to beat them in consecutive League campaigns.

 ;D
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Post by: joemamas on January 27, 2019, 03:44:35 PM
Coldrick had nightmare 1st half . Did Gavin sub him at half time?  Hughes even worse in second half

Hughes seemed to have no notion of the Advantage rule.

He is a shit refereee, and to make it worse he needs to be the center of attention.
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Post by: Captain Obvious on January 27, 2019, 03:45:24 PM
Well done Monaghan. Beating Dublin is becoming a habit for Monaghan.
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Post by: Blowitupref on January 27, 2019, 04:06:43 PM
Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11 FT
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Post by: seafoid on January 27, 2019, 04:07:26 PM
Galway kick on at the end. They spent long enough doing the apprenticeship

A good shtart

Calling Mouview


67 mins Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-08

Shane Walsh extends Galway's lead to five at Pearse Stadium.

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Post by: shantygael on January 27, 2019, 04:07:33 PM
Well done Monaghan. Beating Dublin is becoming a habit for Monaghan.
At the wrong end of the season
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Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 27, 2019, 04:08:29 PM
FT

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Bad first half.

Galway had the only two goal chances. The Cavan keeper (who was very good) saved both over the bar.

Cavan scored 0-3 in injury time to make it a tighter finish than it should have been.

5 black cards issued I think.

5 changes on Galway side.

Dublin defeat probably not ideal going up to play them next weekend in CP. Can't imagine some of the lads who togged today will be allowed to play again.
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Post by: galwayman on January 27, 2019, 04:11:27 PM
FT

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Bad first half.

Cavan scored 0-3 in injury time to make it a tighter finish than it should have been.

5 black cards issued I think.

5 changes on Galway side.
Decent win all things considered and could be an important 2 points.
Into the lions den now next week and you'd imagine Burke & Silke won't be allowed play so it will be a weaker side than today.
Was happy to see Podge Cunningham get a start.
Working today so could only follow it on twitter from time to time but talking to a friend it seems he did reasonably well.
2 points from play and drew a few frees.
Hopefully he'll see more action over the next few weeks.
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Post by: seafoid on January 27, 2019, 04:38:13 PM
FT

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Bad first half.

Cavan scored 0-3 in injury time to make it a tighter finish than it should have been.

5 black cards issued I think.

5 changes on Galway side.
Decent win all things considered and could be an important 2 points.
Into the lions den now next week and you'd imagine Burke & Silke won't be allowed play so it will be a weaker side than today.
Was happy to see Podge Cunningham get a start.
Working today so could only follow it on twitter from time to time but talking to a friend it seems he did reasonably well.
2 points from play and drew a few frees.
Hopefully he'll see more action over the next few weeks.
Cavan only scored once between 48 and 67 mins
They are not as cute as Galway yet but they did well otherwise.
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Post by: Main Street on January 27, 2019, 04:44:55 PM
 The Dubs were too fast to up the physicalities in the middle of the first half considering they were already  6 points ahead and strolling it, the main effect of that was to wake up Monaghan from a slumber. Monaghan's discipline was good in response, didn't back down, met the physical challenge  and started to play football.  Though it was out of character for the Dubs to fizzle out in the last 1/4, a beaten team.

Jack McCarron had a very good game, he has grown in stature, an immense presence in the 2nd half,  of course O'Hanlon's league debut was spectacular.
And yeah that touch of class from McManus in felling Johnny Cooper,  an early contender for the best value yellow card of the year.
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Post by: From the Bunker on January 27, 2019, 06:28:39 PM
Second Monaghan Goal looked like a Joe Sheridan effort. Monaghan player clearly held the ball and then palmed it.
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Post by: Rossfan on January 27, 2019, 06:43:58 PM
No more than the overcarrying they all do that with the 2 handed "push".
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Post by: Boycey on January 27, 2019, 06:54:18 PM
Second Monaghan Goal looked like a Joe Sheridan effort. Monaghan player clearly held the ball and then palmed it.

I was at match and didn't see anything wrong he in real time and granted it was only a tweet I've seen on my phone since but didn't look like it on that either. Interesting to see people on here giving out about both refs, at the match I thought both did reasonably ok. In January conditions allowances are sometimes made.
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Post by: twohands!!! on January 27, 2019, 07:25:34 PM
Second Monaghan Goal looked like a Joe Sheridan effort. Monaghan player clearly held the ball and then palmed it.

I was at match and didn't see anything wrong he in real time and granted it was only a tweet I've seen on my phone since but didn't look like it on that either. Interesting to see people on here giving out about both refs, at the match I thought both did reasonably ok. In January conditions allowances are sometimes made.

Have to remember that the refs are often blowing out the dirty diesel at this time of year as well.
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Post by: TheMaster on January 27, 2019, 07:56:41 PM
Expect Donie Smith to be banned for two games and Keith Higgins for one. Gas to see mayo fans reaction to Smith on social media. You have the O'Connor brothers last 3 years smashing opposition players with elbows and closed fists and nothing said about that.
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Post by: Farrandeelin on January 27, 2019, 07:56:57 PM
Predictions?

Mayo and Ros to draw.
Kerry to beat Tyrone.
Galway to struggle past Cavan.
Monaghan to beat the Dubs.

3 outta 4 ain't bad. Bonus to have got the first one wrong.
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Post by: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 08:04:57 PM
FT

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Bad first half.

Galway had the only two goal chances. The Cavan keeper (who was very good) saved both over the bar.

Cavan scored 0-3 in injury time to make it a tighter finish than it should have been.

5 black cards issued I think.

5 changes on Galway side.

Dublin defeat probably not ideal going up to play them next weekend in CP. Can't imagine some of the lads who togged today will be allowed to play again.

Cavan also had a goal chance in 1st half but  made a mess of it.

Referree deserve a mention, atrocious. Two of Cavans blacks were terrible calls. Galway also should have seen red for a forearm challenge on Cavan midfielder. Galway were much improved in the 2nd half. Cavan fitness looked way off where it needs to be too. I think Galway will struggle against the better teams and I am afraid I will have to re-assess our chances as I struggle to see us win against anyone after watching that.
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Post by: Main Street on January 27, 2019, 08:18:15 PM
Predictions?

Mayo and Ros to draw.
Kerry to beat Tyrone.
Galway to struggle past Cavan.
Monaghan to beat the Dubs.

3 outta 4 ain't bad. Bonus to have got the first one wrong.
Sometimes it's okay to blow your trumpet,  but did Galway really struggle? :)
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Post by: tonto1888 on January 27, 2019, 08:20:03 PM
Second Monaghan Goal looked like a Joe Sheridan effort. Monaghan player clearly held the ball and then palmed it.

I was at match and didn't see anything wrong he in real time and granted it was only a tweet I've seen on my phone since but didn't look like it on that either. Interesting to see people on here giving out about both refs, at the match I thought both did reasonably ok. In January conditions allowances are sometimes made.

Was hard to tell on tele but you’d give him the benefit of the doubt
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Post by: Manning18 on January 27, 2019, 08:24:44 PM
FT

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Bad first half.

Galway had the only two goal chances. The Cavan keeper (who was very good) saved both over the bar.

Cavan scored 0-3 in injury time to make it a tighter finish than it should have been.

5 black cards issued I think.

5 changes on Galway side.

Dublin defeat probably not ideal going up to play them next weekend in CP. Can't imagine some of the lads who togged today will be allowed to play again.

Cavan also had a goal chance in 1st half but  made a mess of it.

Referree deserve a mention, atrocious. Two of Cavans blacks were terrible calls. Galway also should have seen red for a forearm challenge on Cavan midfielder. Galway were much improved in the 2nd half. Cavan fitness looked way off where it needs to be too. I think Galway will struggle against the better teams and I am afraid I will have to re-assess our chances as I struggle to see us win against anyone after watching that.

The ref was atrocious but not sure how a Cavan person could see him in a negative light given the string of ridiculous calls in the first half giving Cavan scoreable frees. Shafted Galway until the half. 2 black cards were for tit for tat messing, one to either player, so which black cards did you have issue with? Surely not the one to your midfielder taking Shane Walsh out off the ball? The one for the contested catch was on the harsh side alright. Galway had a fairly legitimate penalty claim denied late on
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: trailer on January 27, 2019, 08:25:39 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan’s win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what’s going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.
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Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 27, 2019, 08:34:07 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan’s win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what’s going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.
Cooper trying his normal dirty tactics to take out the opposition's marquee player
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Post by: twohands!!! on January 27, 2019, 08:35:00 PM
Expect Donie Smith to be banned for two games and Keith Higgins for one. Gas to see mayo fans reaction to Smith on social media. You have the O'Connor brothers last 3 years smashing opposition players with elbows and closed fists and nothing said about that.

If he has any sort of competent defence team they will simply submit footage of McMahon's eye-gouging of Donaghy and the fact that he got a one game ban.

I just looked at the footage from McMahon's incident again and his hand being around Donaghy eyes was even more blatant in the footage.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on January 27, 2019, 08:37:13 PM
FT

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Bad first half.

Galway had the only two goal chances. The Cavan keeper (who was very good) saved both over the bar.

Cavan scored 0-3 in injury time to make it a tighter finish than it should have been.

5 black cards issued I think.

5 changes on Galway side.

Dublin defeat probably not ideal going up to play them next weekend in CP. Can't imagine some of the lads who togged today will be allowed to play again.

Cavan also had a goal chance in 1st half but  made a mess of it.

Referree deserve a mention, atrocious. Two of Cavans blacks were terrible calls. Galway also should have seen red for a forearm challenge on Cavan midfielder. Galway were much improved in the 2nd half. Cavan fitness looked way off where it needs to be too. I think Galway will struggle against the better teams and I am afraid I will have to re-assess our chances as I struggle to see us win against anyone after watching that.

The ref was atrocious but not sure how a Cavan person could see him in a negative light given the string of ridiculous calls in the first half giving Cavan scoreable frees. Shafted Galway until the half. 2 black cards were for tit for tat messing, one to either player, so which black cards did you have issue with? Surely not the one to your midfielder taking Shane Walsh out off the ball? The one for the contested catch was on the harsh side alright. Galway had a fairly legitimate penalty claim denied late on

Black card 1 - Galway player trips cavan man in front of ref with his hand. Stone wall black.

Black card 2- Galway player puts ball over Martin Reilly and intentionally runs into him and jumps on ground roaring. Not a black card but maybe replay will change my view.

Black card 3 and 4 - cavan and Galway player jostling and pulling off the ball, cavan player tries to run away and is tripped. Definite blsck card for galway player, no black card offense committed by cavan player but if the jostling was an issue it should have been a yellow.

Black card no 5- definite black to cavan player.

Peno was not a peno and you are not allowed pull jerseys, even in salthill so that's where the frees came from.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Champion The Wonder Horse on January 27, 2019, 08:45:44 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan’s win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what’s going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I thought McCarron’s yellow should have been a straight red and McManus should have been black carded.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: trailer on January 27, 2019, 08:52:40 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan’s win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what’s going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I thought McCarron’s yellow should have been a straight red and McManus should have been black carded.

McCarron’s was accidental I felt. And in fact should’ve been a Monaghan free rather than a Dublin one, but the Dublin players theatrics conned a very weak ref.
McManus was 100% in the right. Cooper initiated that wrestling match he should have been ordered off. As I said both officials very sympathetic to Dublin.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 27, 2019, 08:57:50 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan’s win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what’s going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I thought McCarron’s yellow should have been a straight red and McManus should have been black carded.
Under what part of the rule should McManus have been black carded? He tripped up an opponent away from the action in a "tete la tete" confrontation. That's a yellow card offence. You  need to acquaint yourself better with the rules
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on January 27, 2019, 09:14:50 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan’s win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what’s going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I can understand that you might find it difficult to be gracious in defeat, but surely you could manage to be gracious in victory.  ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on January 27, 2019, 09:17:27 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan’s win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what’s going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I thought McCarron’s yellow should have been a straight red and McManus should have been black carded.

McCarron’s was accidental I felt. And in fact should’ve been a Monaghan free rather than a Dublin one, but the Dublin players theatrics conned a very weak ref.
McManus was 100% in the right. Cooper initiated that wrestling match he should have been ordered off. As I said both officials very sympathetic to Dublin.

Christ you're bitter when it comes to Dublin. Scully gets taken out and you want a free to Monaghan!!!

Dublin's lack of fitness told in the 2nd half and playing with 14 men for 20 minutes told as well. Should bring them on a long way for Galway next week. McCarron played well, but he ran riot 2 years ago as well in Clones against the dubs and did nothing come championship. Needs to do it more consistently
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: trailer on January 27, 2019, 09:17:59 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan’s win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what’s going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I can understand that you might find it difficult to be gracious in defeat, but surely you could manage to be gracious in victory.  ::)

Sorry. I’m actually a neutral.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: greatpoint on January 27, 2019, 09:19:42 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan’s win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what’s going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I thought McCarron’s yellow should have been a straight red and McManus should have been black carded.
Under what part of the rule should McManus have been black carded? He tripped up an opponent away from the action in a "tete la tete" confrontation. That's a yellow card offence. You  need to acquaint yourself better with the rules

A head the head confrontation?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on January 27, 2019, 09:22:35 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan’s win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what’s going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I can understand that you might find it difficult to be gracious in defeat, but surely you could manage to be gracious in victory.  ::)

Sorry. I’m actually a neutral.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on January 27, 2019, 09:23:05 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan’s win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what’s going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I can understand that you might find it difficult to be gracious in defeat, but surely you could manage to be gracious in victory.  ::)

Sorry. I’m actually a neutral.

Apologies - I’d never have thought it.  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on January 27, 2019, 09:24:03 PM
Expect Donie Smith to be banned for two games and Keith Higgins for one. Gas to see mayo fans reaction to Smith on social media. You have the O'Connor brothers last 3 years smashing opposition players with elbows and closed fists and nothing said about that.

If he has any sort of competent defence team they will simply submit footage of McMahon's eye-gouging of Donaghy and the fact that he got a one game ban.

I just looked at the footage from McMahon's incident again and his hand being around Donaghy eyes was even more blatant in the footage.

McMahon should got 6 months
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on January 27, 2019, 09:31:01 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan’s win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what’s going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I thought McCarron’s yellow should have been a straight red and McManus should have been black carded.

McCarron’s was accidental I felt. And in fact should’ve been a Monaghan free rather than a Dublin one, but the Dublin players theatrics conned a very weak ref.
McManus was 100% in the right. Cooper initiated that wrestling match he should have been ordered off. As I said both officials very sympathetic to Dublin.

Christ you're bitter when it comes to Dublin. Scully gets taken out and you want a free to Monaghan!!!

Dublin's lack of fitness told in the 2nd half and playing with 14 men for 20 minutes told as well. Should bring them on a long way for Galway next week. McCarron played well, but he ran riot 2 years ago as well in Clones against the dubs and did nothing come championship. Needs to do it more consistently

Though wylie was the best player on the pitch. Lots of bad decisions both ways I thought. Just before mcmanus cooper incident cooper had both arms around him but no free ? Monaghan's 2nd goal looked dodgy. Scully had a sneaky push for his goal. Not mad about the new mark rule but i'll give it a few games before deciding if i like it or not. 2 good teams and both short starters.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 27, 2019, 09:31:47 PM
Enjoyed Monaghan’s win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what’s going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I thought McCarron’s yellow should have been a straight red and McManus should have been black carded.
Under what part of the rule should McManus have been black carded? He tripped up an opponent away from the action in a "tete la tete" confrontation. That's a yellow card offence. You  need to acquaint yourself better with the rules

A head the head confrontation?
No smart ass,  a private conversation.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: tonto1888 on January 27, 2019, 10:05:41 PM
Regarding McManus I think the yellow was the right decision. However, could you imagine the uproar if cooper had have tripped him in the same way?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: imtommygunn on January 27, 2019, 10:13:21 PM
McManus couldn’t have got cooper off him without doing that though. Same wouldn’t have happened the other way.

The letter of the law is a trip is a black card which is why McManus was lucky to avoid a card. Cooper has goaded people into this before. Unless I am mistaken and where the play is is relevant but I didn’t think so?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 27, 2019, 10:16:18 PM
Get rid of the Black card - All Black and Yellow cards should be Yellow card offences and 10 minutes in the Sin Bin! Cuts out all this Bullshit Grey area between the two!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2019, 10:58:26 PM
McManus couldn’t have got cooper off him without doing that though. Same wouldn’t have happened the other way.

The letter of the law is a trip is a black card which is why McManus was lucky to avoid a card. Cooper has goaded people into this before. Unless I am mistaken and where the play is is relevant but I didn’t think so?

Makes no difference where the trip is, if someone deliberately pulls down trips or up ends an player it’s a black card..
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Ball Hopper on January 27, 2019, 11:16:44 PM
McManus couldn’t have got cooper off him without doing that though. Same wouldn’t have happened the other way.

The letter of the law is a trip is a black card which is why McManus was lucky to avoid a card. Cooper has goaded people into this before. Unless I am mistaken and where the play is is relevant but I didn’t think so?

Makes no difference where the trip is, if someone deliberately pulls down trips or up ends an player it’s a black card..

Not so sure about that one...
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 27, 2019, 11:24:31 PM
In relation to a black card offence, it's blatantly obvious that it matters where the infraction takes place. McManus upending a player on the ball, versus a provoked McManus upending a player away from the action is not the same officiating scenario in the GAA. Both Cooper and McManus were involved in an off the ball incident, a tumble in the grass. If the ref deemed it serious enough, it was either a yellow or red card offence. The ref dealt with the incident appropriately and in accordance with the rules.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyCake on January 27, 2019, 11:33:45 PM
Roscommon’s Smith should get a year for that eye gouging.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 27, 2019, 11:50:33 PM
Roscommon’s Smith should get a year for that eye gouging.

Doubt it, after all there was no year bans for James McCarthy or Philly McMahon for similar eye gouging incidents.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 28, 2019, 12:13:25 AM
FT

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Bad first half.

Galway had the only two goal chances. The Cavan keeper (who was very good) saved both over the bar.

Cavan scored 0-3 in injury time to make it a tighter finish than it should have been.

5 black cards issued I think.

5 changes on Galway side.

Dublin defeat probably not ideal going up to play them next weekend in CP. Can't imagine some of the lads who togged today will be allowed to play again.

Cavan also had a goal chance in 1st half but  made a mess of it.

Referree deserve a mention, atrocious. Two of Cavans blacks were terrible calls. Galway also should have seen red for a forearm challenge on Cavan midfielder. Galway were much improved in the 2nd half. Cavan fitness looked way off where it needs to be too. I think Galway will struggle against the better teams and I am afraid I will have to re-assess our chances as I struggle to see us win against anyone after watching that.

The ref was atrocious but not sure how a Cavan person could see him in a negative light given the string of ridiculous calls in the first half giving Cavan scoreable frees. Shafted Galway until the half. 2 black cards were for tit for tat messing, one to either player, so which black cards did you have issue with? Surely not the one to your midfielder taking Shane Walsh out off the ball? The one for the contested catch was on the harsh side alright. Galway had a fairly legitimate penalty claim denied late on

Black card 1 - Galway player trips cavan man in front of ref with his hand. Stone wall black.

Black card 2- Galway player puts ball over Martin Reilly and intentionally runs into him and jumps on ground roaring. Not a black card but maybe replay will change my view.

Black card 3 and 4 - cavan and Galway player jostling and pulling off the ball, cavan player tries to run away and is tripped. Definite blsck card for galway player, no black card offense committed by cavan player but if the jostling was an issue it should have been a yellow.

Black card no 5- definite black to cavan player.

Peno was not a peno and you are not allowed pull jerseys, even in salthill so that's where the frees came from.

Just on the black cards, McDaid got a fully deserved one, and it was a stupid one to get as Galway were on the attack on the other side of the pitch, instead it resulted in a throw ball that Cavan won and Galway a man down for nothing. At least some of the Cavan cards were taking an attacking player out of it. Duggan got a yellow but it wasn't a black card offence, could have been a red.
Cavan could have easily have got another black card for a deliberate trip in the first half but it would be foolish to point to the black cards as the decisive factor in this match, Galway didn't exactly rack up the scores during the time when Cavan were down by one or two men, while Cavan had the man advantage after McDaid got the line for 10 minutes at the start of the second half and did nothing much with it.
Aside from not moving into a dominant position with the man advantage at the start of the second half where Cavan really torpedoed themselves was in the first 25 minutes when they were the better team out there, they had numerous chances to push themselves even further than 3 ahead but hit some dodgy wides and also in the first half had a few very poor free attempts, some them should really have been gimmes at this level.

Galway were very slow out of the blocks and poor in general in the first half. Some of the inaccurate aimless ball played into the FF line was hard to fathom, even Galway's top players like Burke and Walsh weren't immune to some hospital passes.

McDaid really looked a lad who had been away from top level football for a while, one good run in the first half but ended up going straight into traffic, his black card was a poor one to get but there's a lesson there for all Galway players in terms of when to take a black card. Overall didn't really get into the game but he's a big unit now compared to his U21 days and his ability at that level was unquestionable.

Sean Andy was unusually tentative on a number of high balls that he was really the favourite for, didn't cleanly catch or break it out where he wanted it to go. Nothing major happened as a result but against better opposition it could be a problem, something to watch as the league moves forward particularly with the defensive mark in play.

Bradshaw played well and the Galway turnaround began shortly after he was introduced which I don't think was a coincidence.

Flynn has turned into a much more consistent presence on the pitch compared to a few years ago, he turned it around last summer and I hope that he maintains that level into the rest of 2019. Cooke had a decent match without doing anything spectacular.

Heaney and Kelly played fairly well although Heaney should have buried his goal chance. Shane Walsh is going to get some more lads black carded with his direct running, if he's gone past it's either let him go or foul, there's no catching him.

I liked what I saw from Cunningham, deceptively quick and he got into some great positions. He fluffed a very easy point chance in the first half and really should have stuck his goal chance in the second but that bit more composure required will hopefully come with more game time moving forward. He's the type of player that Galway need to put the hand up this league campaign.

I assume that the Corofin lads will be gone for the duration of the club championship after yesterday but it was good to see them out there today, Silke will add a lot to that team this year, very steady.

Overall Galway were pedestrian enough even when they got going in the match but it was a game they ground out, once they got 3 points up I thought it was pretty much over as a contest. Cavan got the last 3 points and Galway didn't look great trying to see the match out in injury time truth be told. Galway tried a couple of killer passes to setup goals in the second half, none of which came off, given the way the match was playing out they would have been better off just sticking the ball over the bar.

McKiernan is clearly a big loss for Cavan at the moment but based on what I saw today Cavan will struggle to stay up unless they bring something very different or improve greatly in the subsequent league rounds.
It might be no different for ourselves in the long run but we've at least got the first must win game in the bag, it's a free shot match against the Dubs away next Saturday, anything out of it will be a very unexpected bonus.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: NetNitrate on January 28, 2019, 01:25:35 AM
Roscommon’s Smith should get a year for that eye gouging.

Doubt it, after all there was no year bans for James McCarthy or Philly McMahon for similar eye gouging incidents.

You are forgetting about the unwritten GAA rule:
“If it’s a smaller GAA county, be sure to make an example of them.”
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on January 28, 2019, 03:46:51 AM
FT

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Bad first half.

Galway had the only two goal chances. The Cavan keeper (who was very good) saved both over the bar.

Cavan scored 0-3 in injury time to make it a tighter finish than it should have been.

5 black cards issued I think.

5 changes on Galway side.

Dublin defeat probably not ideal going up to play them next weekend in CP. Can't imagine some of the lads who togged today will be allowed to play again.

Cavan also had a goal chance in 1st half but  made a mess of it.

Referree deserve a mention, atrocious. Two of Cavans blacks were terrible calls. Galway also should have seen red for a forearm challenge on Cavan midfielder. Galway were much improved in the 2nd half. Cavan fitness looked way off where it needs to be too. I think Galway will struggle against the better teams and I am afraid I will have to re-assess our chances as I struggle to see us win against anyone after watching that.

The ref was atrocious but not sure how a Cavan person could see him in a negative light given the string of ridiculous calls in the first half giving Cavan scoreable frees. Shafted Galway until the half. 2 black cards were for tit for tat messing, one to either player, so which black cards did you have issue with? Surely not the one to your midfielder taking Shane Walsh out off the ball? The one for the contested catch was on the harsh side alright. Galway had a fairly legitimate penalty claim denied late on

Black card 1 - Galway player trips cavan man in front of ref with his hand. Stone wall black.

Black card 2- Galway player puts ball over Martin Reilly and intentionally runs into him and jumps on ground roaring. Not a black card but maybe replay will change my view.

Black card 3 and 4 - cavan and Galway player jostling and pulling off the ball, cavan player tries to run away and is tripped. Definite blsck card for galway player, no black card offense committed by cavan player but if the jostling was an issue it should have been a yellow.

Black card no 5- definite black to cavan player.

Peno was not a peno and you are not allowed pull jerseys, even in salthill so that's where the frees came from.

Just on the black cards, McDaid got a fully deserved one, and it was a stupid one to get as Galway were on the attack on the other side of the pitch, instead it resulted in a throw ball that Cavan won and Galway a man down for nothing. At least some of the Cavan cards were taking an attacking player out of it. Duggan got a yellow but it wasn't a black card offence, could have been a red.
Cavan could have easily have got another black card for a deliberate trip in the first half but it would be foolish to point to the black cards as the decisive factor in this match, Galway didn't exactly rack up the scores during the time when Cavan were down by one or two men, while Cavan had the man advantage after McDaid got the line for 10 minutes at the start of the second half and did nothing much with it.
Aside from not moving into a dominant position with the man advantage at the start of the second half where Cavan really torpedoed themselves was in the first 25 minutes when they were the better team out there, they had numerous chances to push themselves even further than 3 ahead but hit some dodgy wides and also in the first half had a few very poor free attempts, some them should really have been gimmes at this level.

Galway were very slow out of the blocks and poor in general in the first half. Some of the inaccurate aimless ball played into the FF line was hard to fathom, even Galway's top players like Burke and Walsh weren't immune to some hospital passes.

McDaid really looked a lad who had been away from top level football for a while, one good run in the first half but ended up going straight into traffic, his black card was a poor one to get but there's a lesson there for all Galway players in terms of when to take a black card. Overall didn't really get into the game but he's a big unit now compared to his U21 days and his ability at that level was unquestionable.

Sean Andy was unusually tentative on a number of high balls that he was really the favourite for, didn't cleanly catch or break it out where he wanted it to go. Nothing major happened as a result but against better opposition it could be a problem, something to watch as the league moves forward particularly with the defensive mark in play.

Quote
Bradshaw played well and the Galway turnaround began shortly after he was introduced which I don't think was a coincidence.
Flynn has turned into a much more consistent presence on the pitch compared to a few years ago, he turned it around last summer and I hope that he maintains that level into the rest of 2019. Cooke had a decent match without doing anything spectacular.

Heaney and Kelly played fairly well although Heaney should have buried his goal chance. Shane Walsh is going to get some more lads black carded with his direct running, if he's gone past it's either let him go or foul, there's no catching him.

I liked what I saw from Cunningham, deceptively quick and he got into some great positions. He fluffed a very easy point chance in the first half and really should have stuck his goal chance in the second but that bit more composure required will hopefully come with more game time moving forward. He's the type of player that Galway need to put the hand up this league campaign.

I assume that the Corofin lads will be gone for the duration of the club championship after yesterday but it was good to see them out there today, Silke will add a lot to that team this year, very steady.

Overall Galway were pedestrian enough even when they got going in the match but it was a game they ground out, once they got 3 points up I thought it was pretty much over as a contest. Cavan got the last 3 points and Galway didn't look great trying to see the match out in injury time truth be told. Galway tried a couple of killer passes to setup goals in the second half, none of which came off, given the way the match was playing out they would have been better off just sticking the ball over the bar.

McKiernan is clearly a big loss for Cavan at the moment but based on what I saw today Cavan will struggle to stay up unless they bring something very different or improve greatly in the subsequent league rounds.
It might be no different for ourselves in the long run but we've at least got the first must win game in the bag, it's a free shot match against the Dubs away next Saturday, anything out of it will be a very unexpected bonus.
Is there a more underrated player on that Galway team?
Honestly I don’t get the flak that comes Brads way from a lot of people.
He’s been a top quality player since he was a minor.
Was Wynne injured or was it a tactical switch?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on January 28, 2019, 09:00:30 AM
FT

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Bad first half.

Galway had the only two goal chances. The Cavan keeper (who was very good) saved both over the bar.

Cavan scored 0-3 in injury time to make it a tighter finish than it should have been.

5 black cards issued I think.

5 changes on Galway side.

Dublin defeat probably not ideal going up to play them next weekend in CP. Can't imagine some of the lads who togged today will be allowed to play again.

Cavan also had a goal chance in 1st half but  made a mess of it.

Referree deserve a mention, atrocious. Two of Cavans blacks were terrible calls. Galway also should have seen red for a forearm challenge on Cavan midfielder. Galway were much improved in the 2nd half. Cavan fitness looked way off where it needs to be too. I think Galway will struggle against the better teams and I am afraid I will have to re-assess our chances as I struggle to see us win against anyone after watching that.

The ref was atrocious but not sure how a Cavan person could see him in a negative light given the string of ridiculous calls in the first half giving Cavan scoreable frees. Shafted Galway until the half. 2 black cards were for tit for tat messing, one to either player, so which black cards did you have issue with? Surely not the one to your midfielder taking Shane Walsh out off the ball? The one for the contested catch was on the harsh side alright. Galway had a fairly legitimate penalty claim denied late on

Black card 1 - Galway player trips cavan man in front of ref with his hand. Stone wall black.

Black card 2- Galway player puts ball over Martin Reilly and intentionally runs into him and jumps on ground roaring. Not a black card but maybe replay will change my view.

Black card 3 and 4 - cavan and Galway player jostling and pulling off the ball, cavan player tries to run away and is tripped. Definite blsck card for galway player, no black card offense committed by cavan player but if the jostling was an issue it should have been a yellow.

Black card no 5- definite black to cavan player.

Peno was not a peno and you are not allowed pull jerseys, even in salthill so that's where the frees came from.

Just on the black cards, McDaid got a fully deserved one, and it was a stupid one to get as Galway were on the attack on the other side of the pitch, instead it resulted in a throw ball that Cavan won and Galway a man down for nothing. At least some of the Cavan cards were taking an attacking player out of it. Duggan got a yellow but it wasn't a black card offence, could have been a red.
Cavan could have easily have got another black card for a deliberate trip in the first half but it would be foolish to point to the black cards as the decisive factor in this match, Galway didn't exactly rack up the scores during the time when Cavan were down by one or two men, while Cavan had the man advantage after McDaid got the line for 10 minutes at the start of the second half and did nothing much with it.
Aside from not moving into a dominant position with the man advantage at the start of the second half where Cavan really torpedoed themselves was in the first 25 minutes when they were the better team out there, they had numerous chances to push themselves even further than 3 ahead but hit some dodgy wides and also in the first half had a few very poor free attempts, some them should really have been gimmes at this level.

Galway were very slow out of the blocks and poor in general in the first half. Some of the inaccurate aimless ball played into the FF line was hard to fathom, even Galway's top players like Burke and Walsh weren't immune to some hospital passes.

McDaid really looked a lad who had been away from top level football for a while, one good run in the first half but ended up going straight into traffic, his black card was a poor one to get but there's a lesson there for all Galway players in terms of when to take a black card. Overall didn't really get into the game but he's a big unit now compared to his U21 days and his ability at that level was unquestionable.

Sean Andy was unusually tentative on a number of high balls that he was really the favourite for, didn't cleanly catch or break it out where he wanted it to go. Nothing major happened as a result but against better opposition it could be a problem, something to watch as the league moves forward particularly with the defensive mark in play.

Bradshaw played well and the Galway turnaround began shortly after he was introduced which I don't think was a coincidence.

Flynn has turned into a much more consistent presence on the pitch compared to a few years ago, he turned it around last summer and I hope that he maintains that level into the rest of 2019. Cooke had a decent match without doing anything spectacular.

Heaney and Kelly played fairly well although Heaney should have buried his goal chance. Shane Walsh is going to get some more lads black carded with his direct running, if he's gone past it's either let him go or foul, there's no catching him.

I liked what I saw from Cunningham, deceptively quick and he got into some great positions. He fluffed a very easy point chance in the first half and really should have stuck his goal chance in the second but that bit more composure required will hopefully come with more game time moving forward. He's the type of player that Galway need to put the hand up this league campaign.

I assume that the Corofin lads will be gone for the duration of the club championship after yesterday but it was good to see them out there today, Silke will add a lot to that team this year, very steady.

Overall Galway were pedestrian enough even when they got going in the match but it was a game they ground out, once they got 3 points up I thought it was pretty much over as a contest. Cavan got the last 3 points and Galway didn't look great trying to see the match out in injury time truth be told. Galway tried a couple of killer passes to setup goals in the second half, none of which came off, given the way the match was playing out they would have been better off just sticking the ball over the bar.

McKiernan is clearly a big loss for Cavan at the moment but based on what I saw today Cavan will struggle to stay up unless they bring something very different or improve greatly in the subsequent league rounds.
It might be no different for ourselves in the long run but we've at least got the first must win game in the bag, it's a free shot match against the Dubs away next Saturday, anything out of it will be a very unexpected bonus.

I think that is fair. BTW - I am not saying the cards lost Cavan the game, they were not good enough on the day and I am worried about the very poor fitness levels they have.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 28, 2019, 09:36:17 AM
Roscommon’s Smith should get a year for that eye gouging.

Not at all. Sure he didn't make eye contact at all, a total non-issue.

According to those on stolensheep.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheGreatest on January 28, 2019, 09:39:31 AM
Well done to Monaghan, great win, decent folk up there too. Thought the crowd was a bit on small side.

In the long term, the defeat will benefit Dublin more than Monaghan, it will make them remember what it is like to lose and hopefully push on next week, long term its a long way off August!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on January 28, 2019, 09:44:23 AM
Roscommon’s Smith should get a year for that eye gouging.

Not at all. Sure he didn't make eye contact at all, a total non-issue.

According to those on stolensheep.

According to 1 poster Farr. I don’t think it was intentional but that doesn’t excuse the fact that his hand was in that position. 1/2 game ban for me. There were incidents similar to this and no bans but that’s no reason not to to this time.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on January 28, 2019, 09:46:31 AM
Revised odds to win the league after week 1, Dublin probably the value bet now:

Dublin 8/15 11/10
Kerry 13/2 11/4
Tyrone 8/1 14/1
Mayo 9/1 6/1
Galway 10/1 8/1
Monaghan 16/1 7/1
Roscommon 40/1 150/1
Cavan 50/1 150/1



And to be relegated:

And the relegation odds

Roscommon 8/15 2/9
Cavan 4/7 2/9
Monaghan 11/4 15/2
Galway 7/2 7/1
Mayo 4/1 8/1
Kerry 6/1 20/1
Tyrone 11/2 3/1
Dublin 33/1 20/1
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on January 28, 2019, 09:52:19 AM
Was just looking at the winning margins there across the four leagues:

D1: 2.5 points
D2: 1.75 points
D3: 4 points
D4: 4 points (skewed a bit by a 13 point win for Leitrim)

It's a much better competition than the championship for the most part and should really be linked to the championship in some way
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 28, 2019, 09:56:46 AM
The league is only a distraction. The big clash this year is Kerry vs  Dubs in the championship
Can Kerry stop the dubs becoming the greatest team ever ?
The biggest match since 1982 
Could they know each other out and them Monaghan sneak up and win Sam ?
That would also be acceptable.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/fault-lines-appear-for-kerry-in-a-kingdom-under-pressure-1.3769567

Fault lines appear for Kerry in a kingdom under pressure

Prospects of a Dublin five-in-a-row loom large over Kerry where winning is everything


Sat, Jan 26, 2019, 08:00


 
Keith Duggan

It’s different for Kerry. The county moves further past the Ó Sé era of its history with a kaleidoscope of questions filling the sky. But in Kerry, all football questions boil down to one question: Can they win it this year?

The answer below in Kingdom country, thought if not voiced, is: we must.

Last September, in the days after Dublin sauntered through the closing minutes of their fourth successive All-Ireland win, Tomás Ó Sé put his thoughts together for his weekly column in the Irish Independent. His reflections were a de facto acknowledgement that the world in which he had grown up had vanished. Dublin had fallen into a 0-5 to 0-1 hole against Tyrone in that final. But in the end they had swatted the Ulster men away. Their wins over Mayo had been narrow, enthralling, incident laden. Here was proof of the new dispensation.

“I’d never go so far as to predict, six, seven, or eight All-Ireland finals in a row,” Ó Sé wrote – a line that contained the inference that such a prospect is unthinkable rather than impossible – “but the fear is now, for anyone outside the capital at least, that there isn’t a team emerging that can consistently beat them. They simply look unstoppable.”

Few players-turned-analysts have been as consistently admiring of Dublin as Ó Sé: he likes how they play and how they keep their mouths shut. Under-statement is Ó Sé’s calling card. If he wouldn’t “predict” that Dublin can go eight years unbeaten, it doesn’t mean he doesn’t privately fear it. What if he nailed a truth that day? What if Dublin are simply unstoppable?

Dublin’s transformation from 1970s nostalgia act to unprecedented juggernaut has forced Kerry football people – all Kerry people, in other words – to think differently about themselves. The old certainties have been stripped away with bewildering haste.


Mental barricades

Go back to that gripping day up in Clones last year if you want to feel, again, the moment when those mental barricades were stormed. Monaghan were hosting Kerry and loving every minute of it; champagne football, confidence to burn and a home crowd who had been waiting their entire lives for that hour. That Kerry salvaged a draw had as much to do with Monaghan blinking at the critical second.

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It proved to be Kieran Donaghy’s last hour in a Kerry dressingroom. And it would mark the end of Eamonn Fitzmaurice’s term in charge of Kerry football. After he stepped down, it became obvious that during last season, Fitzmaurice realised that he simply wouldn’t be given sufficient time and breathing space to construct a team capable of matching Dublin.

If 2014’s All-Ireland victory was one of the great Kerry guerrilla raids – it’s very rare that you see a championship winning side materialising in such a short space of time – then the subsequent years were defined by the public anxiety over what Kerry could and should do about Dublin. Last summer, that nervousness was acute.

In Kerry, the pressure on managers to win has always been relentless and, at times, merciless. But not since the Mick O’Dwyer era has any Kerry manager been confronted with such an onslaught of excellence from Dublin. For three decades, the general rule was that if Kerry didn’t win it, then some other county would. The joy was diffuse and, therefore, disappointment in Kerry was more palatable.

In the past four years, that has changed. Dublin aren’t just building something in their dominance: they are also knocking down truths that were self-evident. Kerry’s near-miss with the mythical five-in-a-row, denied by Séamus Darby’s late All-Ireland final goal for Offaly in 1982, has always been a tolerable and even romantic failure because, until this year, only Kerry could come that close.
Kerry players celebrate after their All-Ireland minor football championship final win over Galway last year – their fifth title in a row at the grade. Photograph: Tommy Dickson/Inpho Kerry players celebrate after their All-Ireland minor football championship final win over Galway last year – their fifth title in a row at the grade. Photograph: Tommy Dickson/Inpho   
They were denied by what has become the most famous football goal of them all, along with a dash of hubris and interference from the gods. All of those comforts will be washed away if Dublin sweeps the board this year.

“For me, the only team with the potential to beat Dublin is Kerry,” Ó Sé said in that same column. “The question is: will the Kerry team be ready next year? And are they going to get their houses in order and build a defensive unit that makes it hard to score?”

There, in a nutshell, was the prospect facing whoever the next Kerry manager would be. Peter Keane wasn’t officially appointed until early October. His guidance of three Kerry minor teams to the All-Irelands titles of 2016, ’17 and ’18 completed a stunning five-in-a-row for Kerry at that grade. Now, his task is to somehow cobble together a team capable of preventing Dublin of doing just that at senior grade.

Tyrone, the All-Ireland finalists and recent McKenna Cup winners, visit Killarney on Sunday. You can bet they will be in a mood to test the credentials of the new Kerry set-up. David Clifford, the one dazzling light for Kerry last year, heads a substantial injury list and won’t be seen until halfway through the league. David Moran, the senior partner on Kerry’s unsettled midfield board, is away on honeymoon. Kieran Donaghy is playing basketball for good now. The Dr Crokes contingent are still in club competition.

Retaining values

At best, Keane will be fielding a deeply inexperienced senior side to face Tyrone. They meet Dublin in Tralee as soon as February 9th for what will be a hotly anticipated Saturday night match. Even then, they will be looking for a sign that Kerry will be up to the task in summer.


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But in Kerry, it is always different. In a terrific interview with Radio Kerry before Christmas, the three-time All-Ireland winner Dara Ó Cinnéide identified the fine line between merely winning and retaining values.

“First and foremost, the game is more important than the players; the game is more important than the infrastructure around it. It is not attractive to people of an older generation specifically. It is not as attractive to me. I still love to watch the game. In Kerry we are playing some very nice football. Maybe not successful . . . I see Eamonn Fitzmaurice recently was asked to give advice to Peter Keane. His own word of advice was – ‘win’.”

That’s the dilemma facing Kerry as the new season begins. They are second favourites for the All-Ireland, even if it is a distant second right now. They feel morally obliged to uphold the tradition of expansive, kick-passing, attacking football. But the need to win – the need to beat Dublin in a championship match –has become paramount. The five-in-a-row song is coming back to haunt them. Again.

Either way, 2019 will be a fault line year for Kerry football.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Manning18 on January 28, 2019, 10:32:07 AM
FT

Galway 0-13 Cavan 0-11

Bad first half.

Galway had the only two goal chances. The Cavan keeper (who was very good) saved both over the bar.

Cavan scored 0-3 in injury time to make it a tighter finish than it should have been.

5 black cards issued I think.

5 changes on Galway side.

Dublin defeat probably not ideal going up to play them next weekend in CP. Can't imagine some of the lads who togged today will be allowed to play again.

Cavan also had a goal chance in 1st half but  made a mess of it.

Referree deserve a mention, atrocious. Two of Cavans blacks were terrible calls. Galway also should have seen red for a forearm challenge on Cavan midfielder. Galway were much improved in the 2nd half. Cavan fitness looked way off where it needs to be too. I think Galway will struggle against the better teams and I am afraid I will have to re-assess our chances as I struggle to see us win against anyone after watching that.

The ref was atrocious but not sure how a Cavan person could see him in a negative light given the string of ridiculous calls in the first half giving Cavan scoreable frees. Shafted Galway until the half. 2 black cards were for tit for tat messing, one to either player, so which black cards did you have issue with? Surely not the one to your midfielder taking Shane Walsh out off the ball? The one for the contested catch was on the harsh side alright. Galway had a fairly legitimate penalty claim denied late on

Black card 1 - Galway player trips cavan man in front of ref with his hand. Stone wall black.

Black card 2- Galway player puts ball over Martin Reilly and intentionally runs into him and jumps on ground roaring. Not a black card but maybe replay will change my view.

Black card 3 and 4 - cavan and Galway player jostling and pulling off the ball, cavan player tries to run away and is tripped. Definite blsck card for galway player, no black card offense committed by cavan player but if the jostling was an issue it should have been a yellow.

Black card no 5- definite black to cavan player.

Peno was not a peno and you are not allowed pull jerseys, even in salthill so that's where the frees came from.

You can hardly have written that last line with a straight face given the penalty incident was a jersey pull for about 5 yards. The frees were all of the soft variety, all 50/50 decisions but every single one went against Galway and we were lucky ye missed a few of them. I'll take your word on the trip for black card 3 and 4, I didnt see a trip and it looked like just the usual wrestling you see by both to me
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 28, 2019, 10:36:33 AM
Was Wynne injured or was it a tactical switch?

He didn't look injured leaving the field and wasn't involved in any heavy collision prior to the switch, you'd have to assume it was a tactical move made by the sideline.

I think that is fair. BTW - I am not saying the cards lost Cavan the game, they were not good enough on the day and I am worried about the very poor fitness levels they have.

I definitely wasn't trying to insinuate that either to be honest, just pointing out for people not at the match that although the headlines will make the Cavan 12 men in the 2nd period look like the clear reason for the defeat, it was more down to Cavan not clinically building a bigger lead when they had multiple opportunities in the first half. Galway improved and played better after HT but for most of the initial period they were not really at the races, the likes of a Dublin or Monaghan would have put that game to bed before the half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mouview on January 28, 2019, 11:37:42 AM
Was Wynne injured or was it a tactical switch?

He didn't look injured leaving the field and wasn't involved in any heavy collision prior to the switch, you'd have to assume it was a tactical move made by the sideline.

I think that is fair. BTW - I am not saying the cards lost Cavan the game, they were not good enough on the day and I am worried about the very poor fitness levels they have.

I definitely wasn't trying to insinuate that either to be honest, just pointing out for people not at the match that although the headlines will make the Cavan 12 men in the 2nd period look like the clear reason for the defeat, it was more down to Cavan not clinically building a bigger lead when they had multiple opportunities in the first half. Galway improved and played better after HT but for most of the initial period they were not really at the races, the likes of a Dublin or Monaghan would have put that game to bed before the half.

It was much better overall than v Roscommon last week. Agree with your summation. Galway have the pace to create incisive moves that open up defences, and should look to play like this all the time, instead of going lateral so often. Cunningham did plenty to suggest he'll get a few more chances. Sean Kelly good again, Flynn in fairness is now starting to show what he can do. Cooke is better and more mobile than Duggan but his distribution is often poor.

A vital 2 points. I'd say KW did a bit of horse-trading with Corofin beforehand to get the 2 players released.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 28, 2019, 12:00:05 PM
Was Wynne injured or was it a tactical switch?

He didn't look injured leaving the field and wasn't involved in any heavy collision prior to the switch, you'd have to assume it was a tactical move made by the sideline.

I think that is fair. BTW - I am not saying the cards lost Cavan the game, they were not good enough on the day and I am worried about the very poor fitness levels they have.

I definitely wasn't trying to insinuate that either to be honest, just pointing out for people not at the match that although the headlines will make the Cavan 12 men in the 2nd period look like the clear reason for the defeat, it was more down to Cavan not clinically building a bigger lead when they had multiple opportunities in the first half. Galway improved and played better after HT but for most of the initial period they were not really at the races, the likes of a Dublin or Monaghan would have put that game to bed before the half.

It was much better overall than v Roscommon last week. Agree with your summation. Galway have the pace to create incisive moves that open up defences, and should look to play like this all the time, instead of going lateral so often. Cunningham did plenty to suggest he'll get a few more chances. Sean Kelly good again, Flynn in fairness is now starting to show what he can do. Cooke is better and more mobile than Duggan but his distribution is often poor.

A vital 2 points. I'd say KW did a bit of horse-trading with Corofin beforehand to get the 2 players released.

The footballers are exciting when the forwards start moving towards the goal with pace
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheClubman on January 28, 2019, 03:02:41 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on January 28, 2019, 03:20:47 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 28, 2019, 03:37:41 PM
Tyrone are favs to beat Mayo

Does that sound right?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 28, 2019, 03:49:26 PM
Tyrone are favs to beat Mayo

Does that sound right?

Probably playing at home and beat Mayo well last year in Castlebar.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: imtommygunn on January 28, 2019, 03:50:42 PM
Tyrone are favs to beat Mayo

Does that sound right?

Yes.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on January 28, 2019, 03:57:34 PM
Tyrone are favs to beat Mayo

Does that sound right?

In fairness to Tyrone they have beaten us in 4 out of the last 5 meetings in the league so they should be favorites. They hammered us in McHale park last year in the league.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Manning18 on January 28, 2019, 04:30:08 PM
Tyrone are favs to beat Mayo

Does that sound right?

The odds are saying the two teams are near equal. Home adv...
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 28, 2019, 04:38:01 PM
Armagh could easily have beaten Tyrone in the McKenna cup final and Kerry gave them a good beating yesterday. I also believe Mayo beat Tyrone in Omagh on their last visit. Mayo to win by 1-3 pts at 7/2 are tasty odds.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on January 28, 2019, 04:41:10 PM
We were steeped in luck to beat Roscommon , goal was never a goal ,the over carrying was ridiculous . Not a hope we will manage Tyrone, be very lucky to keep it down to single digit defeat .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 05:57:04 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 28, 2019, 07:55:34 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
He did a Joe Sheridan on it.
Threw it into the goal
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 28, 2019, 08:01:27 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
He did a Joe Sheridan on it.
Threw it into the goal

Definitely looked like he briefly caught and chucked it rather than palmed or punched it in.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on January 28, 2019, 08:29:03 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
I was down that end and it seemed like a bit of a push rather than a palm. No worse than the push off that Scully gave for his goal and it would have been harsh to disallow either or both
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 28, 2019, 08:49:40 PM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
I was down that end and it seemed like a bit of a push rather than a palm. No worse than the push off that Scully gave for his goal and it would have been harsh to disallow either or both
In real time it's so marginal, it's not worth the bother of a remark, not that I'm a fan of the slapped/palm push goal.
Cooper, before he flattened Carey (penalty?), had a birds eye view and didn't complain.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on January 28, 2019, 09:02:33 PM
Was Wynne injured or was it a tactical switch?

He didn't look injured leaving the field and wasn't involved in any heavy collision prior to the switch, you'd have to assume it was a tactical move made by the sideline

Did he not get tangled with Lavelle and one of the Cavan forwards a few minutes before he came off? That's what I had presumed but maybe it was just tactical. Great to get the 2 points, with the team named Friday night I wasn't too optimistic but when the changes were announced things started to look up. On the positive side O'Donnell, Flynn, Burke and Silke all played well along with Heaney and Sean Kelly. On the negative our backs did a serious amount of fouling, any time SA Ceallaigh went to tackle he fouled the man, we lack a consistent free taker, Shane Walsh was extremely wasteful again yesterday. Duggan also seems to be having second season syndrome, he's lucky he didn't see red yesterday. Kerin also needs to learn to shut up and mind his business. Our sideline don't seem to have moved on from last year at all, were at the same slow, snails pace build up instead of using the speed of lads like Kelly, Heaney, Walsh, McDaid we're passing laterally around midfield or worse again backwards. We'll hardly see the Corofin lads next weekend I'd say, we badly need Comer and Daly back in.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Dubhaltach on January 28, 2019, 09:20:46 PM
In relation to a black card offence, it's blatantly obvious that it matters where the infraction takes place. McManus upending a player on the ball, versus a provoked McManus upending a player away from the action is not the same officiating scenario in the GAA. Both Cooper and McManus were involved in an off the ball incident, a tumble in the grass. If the ref deemed it serious enough, it was either a yellow or red card offence. The ref dealt with the incident appropriately and in accordance with the rules.

As far as I know, there is no stipulation in either the 'deliberate pull down' or the 'trip' black card rule that the offence be on the ball or even that the offence be anywhere near the play.

Seamie O Shea got a black card half way through an All-Ireland Semi final even though the ball was nowhere near the incident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soMVvRJCnvQ
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: timmyot501 on January 28, 2019, 10:12:45 PM
At least this time Cooper had a reason to hit the deck unlike croke park a couple of years ago when he tried to get McManus sent off by pretending he got a slap. Ref dealt with it fine with the 2 yellows
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 29, 2019, 08:01:48 AM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
I was down that end and it seemed like a bit of a push rather than a palm. No worse than the push off that Scully gave for his goal and it would have been harsh to disallow either or both
In real time it's so marginal, it's not worth the bother of a remark, not that I'm a fan of the slapped/palm push goal.
Cooper, before he flattened Carey (penalty?), had a birds eye view and didn't complain.
The Dubs couldn't complain about a palmed goal as they score so many of them themselves
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on January 29, 2019, 08:59:38 AM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
I was down that end and it seemed like a bit of a push rather than a palm. No worse than the push off that Scully gave for his goal and it would have been harsh to disallow either or both
In real time it's so marginal, it's not worth the bother of a remark, not that I'm a fan of the slapped/palm push goal.
Cooper, before he flattened Carey (penalty?), had a birds eye view and didn't complain.
The Dubs couldn't complain about a palmed goal as they score so many of them themselves

Jim Gavin's quotes about the new rules and this year's league were interesting and he clearly has no interest in incorporating the new rules into training as in his words sure they only there for 6 more games, what's the point.

Should make the league interesting this year for everyone else as it looks as though Gavin is only focusing on championship this year
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Keyser soze on January 29, 2019, 09:50:06 AM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

Its only people on here who think the league is a better competition than the championship  ;)

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
I was down that end and it seemed like a bit of a push rather than a palm. No worse than the push off that Scully gave for his goal and it would have been harsh to disallow either or both
In real time it's so marginal, it's not worth the bother of a remark, not that I'm a fan of the slapped/palm push goal.
Cooper, before he flattened Carey (penalty?), had a birds eye view and didn't complain.
The Dubs couldn't complain about a palmed goal as they score so many of them themselves

Jim Gavin's quotes about the new rules and this year's league were interesting and he clearly has no interest in incorporating the new rules into training as in his words sure they only there for 6 more games, what's the point.

Should make the league interesting this year for everyone else as it looks as though Gavin is only focusing on championship this year
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 10:07:09 AM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
I was down that end and it seemed like a bit of a push rather than a palm. No worse than the push off that Scully gave for his goal and it would have been harsh to disallow either or both
In real time it's so marginal, it's not worth the bother of a remark, not that I'm a fan of the slapped/palm push goal.
Cooper, before he flattened Carey (penalty?), had a birds eye view and didn't complain.
The Dubs couldn't complain about a palmed goal as they score so many of them themselves

Jim Gavin's quotes about the new rules and this year's league were interesting and he clearly has no interest in incorporating the new rules into training as in his words sure they only there for 6 more games, what's the point.

Should make the league interesting this year for everyone else as it looks as though Gavin is only focusing on championship this year

You would too if you had the once in a century chance to knock Kerry off their f**king perch (Copyright A Ferguson)
This year is massive in the history of Gaelic football
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 11:17:45 AM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
I was down that end and it seemed like a bit of a push rather than a palm. No worse than the push off that Scully gave for his goal and it would have been harsh to disallow either or both
In real time it's so marginal, it's not worth the bother of a remark, not that I'm a fan of the slapped/palm push goal.
Cooper, before he flattened Carey (penalty?), had a birds eye view and didn't complain.
The Dubs couldn't complain about a palmed goal as they score so many of them themselves

Jim Gavin's quotes about the new rules and this year's league were interesting and he clearly has no interest in incorporating the new rules into training as in his words sure they only there for 6 more games, what's the point.

Should make the league interesting this year for everyone else as it looks as though Gavin is only focusing on championship this year

You would too if you had the once in a century chance to knock Kerry off their f**king perch (Copyright A Ferguson)
This year is massive in the history of Gaelic football

Ferguson was talking about surpassing Liverpool's 18 league titles. For Dublin to do likewise they would need to win another 10 All Ireland's and hope Kerry win none.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 11:40:32 AM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
I was down that end and it seemed like a bit of a push rather than a palm. No worse than the push off that Scully gave for his goal and it would have been harsh to disallow either or both
In real time it's so marginal, it's not worth the bother of a remark, not that I'm a fan of the slapped/palm push goal.
Cooper, before he flattened Carey (penalty?), had a birds eye view and didn't complain.
The Dubs couldn't complain about a palmed goal as they score so many of them themselves

Jim Gavin's quotes about the new rules and this year's league were interesting and he clearly has no interest in incorporating the new rules into training as in his words sure they only there for 6 more games, what's the point.

Should make the league interesting this year for everyone else as it looks as though Gavin is only focusing on championship this year

You would too if you had the once in a century chance to knock Kerry off their f**king perch (Copyright A Ferguson)
This year is massive in the history of Gaelic football

Ferguson was talking about surpassing Liverpool's 18 league titles. For Dublin to do likewise they would need to win another 10 All Ireland's and hope Kerry win none.
That doesn't seem to be how they see it in Kerry

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/fault-lines-appear-for-kerry-in-a-kingdom-under-pressure-1.3769567

Dublin’s transformation from 1970s nostalgia act to unprecedented juggernaut has forced Kerry football people – all Kerry people, in other words – to think differently about themselves. The old certainties have been stripped away with bewildering haste.If 2014’s All-Ireland victory was one of the great Kerry guerrilla raids – it’s very rare that you see a championship winning side materialising in such a short space of time – then the subsequent years were defined by the public anxiety over what Kerry could and should do about Dublin. Last summer, that nervousness was acute.
In Kerry, the pressure on managers to win has always been relentless and, at times, merciless. But not since the Mick O’Dwyer era has any Kerry manager been confronted with such an onslaught of excellence from Dublin. For three decades, the general rule was that if Kerry didn’t win it, then some other county would. The joy was diffuse and, therefore, disappointment in Kerry was more palatable.
In the past four years, that has changed. Dublin aren’t just building something in their dominance: they are also knocking down truths that were self-evident. Kerry’s near-miss with the mythical five-in-a-row, denied by Séamus Darby’s late All-Ireland final goal for Offaly in 1982, has always been a tolerable and even romantic failure because, until this year, only Kerry could come that close.
That’s the dilemma facing Kerry as the new season begins. They are second favourites for the All-Ireland, even if it is a distant second right now. They feel morally obliged to uphold the tradition of expansive, kick-passing, attacking football. But the need to win – the need to beat Dublin in a championship match –has become paramount. The five-in-a-row song is coming back to haunt them. Again.
Either way, 2019 will be a fault line year for Kerry football.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on January 29, 2019, 11:44:12 AM
You know with all the talk of rules the highlights and games I saw over the weekend confirmend what I've always thought. If we can't enforce the rules about the basics of the game then we've no business tinkering with other rules. Reape's goal for Mayo - took at least a dozen steps before playing the ball, turning and shooting. None of the commentators on Eir said a word during the game or during the analysis. Neither did Gooch or Mr Rules himself on RTE last night. Everyone just accepts it now.

The handpass is another one. I would say that 30-40% (and perhaps more) of handpasses are fouls. Lads are just throwing the ball.

Proper enforcement of these two rules would change the game for the better in my view.

agree on both counts. I took a bit of stick on my gaa whatsapp group on saturday night about this. I called it straight away but then I got all the "anti Mayo" accusations. It was blatent and obvious and I couldn't believe that there was no comment (for the record i made it 10 steps :-)) Monaghan's 2nd goal yesterday was dodgy as well but again not a word.
Is there something dodgy about Shane Carey's goal? If there is, it's very marginal. The best angle is from behind the goal
https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM (https://t.co/z1tvoeISjM)
I was down that end and it seemed like a bit of a push rather than a palm. No worse than the push off that Scully gave for his goal and it would have been harsh to disallow either or both
In real time it's so marginal, it's not worth the bother of a remark, not that I'm a fan of the slapped/palm push goal.
Cooper, before he flattened Carey (penalty?), had a birds eye view and didn't complain.
The Dubs couldn't complain about a palmed goal as they score so many of them themselves

Jim Gavin's quotes about the new rules and this year's league were interesting and he clearly has no interest in incorporating the new rules into training as in his words sure they only there for 6 more games, what's the point.

Should make the league interesting this year for everyone else as it looks as though Gavin is only focusing on championship this year

You would too if you had the once in a century chance to knock Kerry off their f**king perch (Copyright A Ferguson)
This year is massive in the history of Gaelic football

Ferguson was talking about surpassing Liverpool's 18 league titles. For Dublin to do likewise they would need to win another 10 All Ireland's and hope Kerry win none.

Seafoid's spot on. It's all about the 5 in a row. A number of the senior players will probably retire at the end of this season. Flynn, Brogan, O'Gara etc. It's not about adding another All Ireland to the total won, it's all about doing the 5 in a row and making history even though they won't/can't admit that in public. They're is enough bitterness out there already towards the team without adding unnecessary fuel to the fire.

Dublin didn't even send a representative to the official launch of the league this year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 12:21:52 PM
Seafoid's spot on. It's all about the 5 in a row. A number of the senior players will probably retire at the end of this season. Flynn, Brogan, O'Gara etc. It's not about adding another All Ireland to the total won, it's all about doing the 5 in a row and making history even though they won't/can't admit that in public. They're is enough bitterness out there already towards the team without adding unnecessary fuel to the fire.

Dublin didn't even send a representative to the official launch of the league this year.

No he's not spot on.  "Massive" year in the history of the GAA is getting caught up in the hype. Winning 5 in a row is just doing something that Kerry didn't. A bit of bragging rights. They will remain a good number of All Ireland titles off Kerry.

Flynn,Brogan great players at their peak though already fazed out and replaced in the starting team, are you serious by throwing O'Gara in there? Life without Cluxton; McMahon,O’Sullivan,McCarthy was seen last Sunday and they all have big boots to fill once gone.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 29, 2019, 12:35:44 PM
Dublin had 21 All Ireland titles to Kerry's 36 pre-2011. That count now is 28 to 37! Dublin are quickly eating away at that lead!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on January 29, 2019, 12:41:49 PM
Should All Irelands from the pre all County selection days be counted at all?
It was Club teams only for the first 20 or so years.
Bray won one as Dublin Champions.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 12:45:08 PM
Seafoid's spot on. It's all about the 5 in a row. A number of the senior players will probably retire at the end of this season. Flynn, Brogan, O'Gara etc. It's not about adding another All Ireland to the total won, it's all about doing the 5 in a row and making history even though they won't/can't admit that in public. They're is enough bitterness out there already towards the team without adding unnecessary fuel to the fire.

Dublin didn't even send a representative to the official launch of the league this year.

No he's not spot on.  "Massive" year in the history of the GAA is getting caught up in the hype. Winning 5 in a row is just doing something that Kerry didn't. A bit of bragging rights. They will remain a good number of All Ireland titles off Kerry.

Flynn,Brogan great players at their peak though already fazed out and replaced in the starting team, are you serious by throwing O'Gara in there? Life without Cluxton; McMahon,O’Sullivan,McCarthy was seen last Sunday and they all have big boots to fill once gone.
I don't agree, Cunny.
GAA is not the same as English soccer.

5 in a row has never been done in either sport. There have been great teams but greatness has until now been confined to 4 in a row
If the Dubs did it everything would be different down in Kerry 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 01:01:11 PM
Seafoid's spot on. It's all about the 5 in a row. A number of the senior players will probably retire at the end of this season. Flynn, Brogan, O'Gara etc. It's not about adding another All Ireland to the total won, it's all about doing the 5 in a row and making history even though they won't/can't admit that in public. They're is enough bitterness out there already towards the team without adding unnecessary fuel to the fire.

Dublin didn't even send a representative to the official launch of the league this year.

No he's not spot on.  "Massive" year in the history of the GAA is getting caught up in the hype. Winning 5 in a row is just doing something that Kerry didn't. A bit of bragging rights. They will remain a good number of All Ireland titles off Kerry.

Flynn,Brogan great players at their peak though already fazed out and replaced in the starting team, are you serious by throwing O'Gara in there? Life without Cluxton; McMahon,O’Sullivan,McCarthy was seen last Sunday and they all have big boots to fill once gone.
I don't agree, Cunny.
GAA is not the same as English soccer.

5 in a row has never been done in either sport. There have been great teams but greatness has until now been confined to 4 in a row
If the Dubs did it everything would be different down in Kerry

Yet you used a quote from a former English football manager.
Great teams retains titles. Different era so can't compare and it doesn't look like Dublin this year have a challenger as good or focused as Offaly was in 1982.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 29, 2019, 01:01:38 PM
Dublin had 21 All Ireland titles to Kerry's 36 pre-2011. That count now is 28 to 37! Dublin are quickly eating away at that lead!

Hope they overtake them.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 29, 2019, 01:17:34 PM
Couldn't make the game but did Galway make use of the mark at all against Cavan?


Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 29, 2019, 01:40:07 PM
Should All Irelands from the pre all County selection days be counted at all?
It was Club teams only for the first 20 or so years.
Bray won one as Dublin Champions.

From what i heard,  The era of where Club Champions represented the County was a bit of a farce. Once the county championship was over, good players from other clubs within the county were canvassed to play for the county Champions in the Provincial and AI series. This was rife among all counties and was the reason the game changed to pure inter-county.

To be fair if you look at pre-WW2 records the Provincial and All Ireland Championship looked a mess with appeals and complaints.

1925 All-Ireland Senior Football Championship was a case in fact.

The 1925 All-Ireland Senior Football Championship

''The championship has become known for the farcical manner in which the play-offs took place. The Connaught final was not held in time to produce a team that could compete against the other three provinces in the semi-finals. Mayo was therefore nominated to represent the province. Mayo beat Wexford in the semi final. Kerry beat Cavan in the other semi-final. However, both Kerry and Cavan were disqualified for fielding illegal players. This meant that Mayo were declared champions without the need for a final. However, in the meantime, Galway had defeated Mayo in the Connaught final and this put the GAA in a bind. They withdrew their nomination of Mayo to represent Connaught, and chose Galway as rightful Connaught champions. Thus, Galway became All-Ireland champions.

However, this was deemed unsatisfactory by all. So the GAA ordered the semi-finals to be replayed with Galway taking the rightful place of Connaught champions. However, Kerry complained that their semi-final victory over Cavan should stand. When the GAA insisted that it should not stand, Kerry withdrew, leaving Cavan to automatically proceed to the final. Galway defeated Cavan in the final. The farce went on so long that the final was not played until January 10, 1926. Cavan, despite having previously been disqualified, finished with a silver medal. Mayo, despite having previously been declared champions, were eliminated. Galway, despite having previously been removed from the tournament, were champions.''
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 01:40:31 PM
Seafoid's spot on. It's all about the 5 in a row. A number of the senior players will probably retire at the end of this season. Flynn, Brogan, O'Gara etc. It's not about adding another All Ireland to the total won, it's all about doing the 5 in a row and making history even though they won't/can't admit that in public. They're is enough bitterness out there already towards the team without adding unnecessary fuel to the fire.

Dublin didn't even send a representative to the official launch of the league this year.

No he's not spot on.  "Massive" year in the history of the GAA is getting caught up in the hype. Winning 5 in a row is just doing something that Kerry didn't. A bit of bragging rights. They will remain a good number of All Ireland titles off Kerry.

Flynn,Brogan great players at their peak though already fazed out and replaced in the starting team, are you serious by throwing O'Gara in there? Life without Cluxton; McMahon,O’Sullivan,McCarthy was seen last Sunday and they all have big boots to fill once gone.
I don't agree, Cunny.
GAA is not the same as English soccer.

5 in a row has never been done in either sport. There have been great teams but greatness has until now been confined to 4 in a row
If the Dubs did it everything would be different down in Kerry

Yet you used a quote from a former English football manager.
Great teams retains titles. Different era so can't compare and it doesn't look like Dublin this year have a challenger as good or focused as Offaly was in 1982.
It takes an exceptional team to win 3 in a row.
4 in a row is even more exclusive
It does look like the Dubs will do it but you would have said the same about the Cats in 2010.
They were very nervous
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: dublin7 on January 29, 2019, 01:50:48 PM
Seafoid's spot on. It's all about the 5 in a row. A number of the senior players will probably retire at the end of this season. Flynn, Brogan, O'Gara etc. It's not about adding another All Ireland to the total won, it's all about doing the 5 in a row and making history even though they won't/can't admit that in public. They're is enough bitterness out there already towards the team without adding unnecessary fuel to the fire.

Dublin didn't even send a representative to the official launch of the league this year.

No he's not spot on.  "Massive" year in the history of the GAA is getting caught up in the hype. Winning 5 in a row is just doing something that Kerry didn't. A bit of bragging rights. They will remain a good number of All Ireland titles off Kerry.

Flynn,Brogan great players at their peak though already fazed out and replaced in the starting team, are you serious by throwing O'Gara in there? Life without Cluxton; McMahon,O’Sullivan,McCarthy was seen last Sunday and they all have big boots to fill once gone.
I don't agree, Cunny.
GAA is not the same as English soccer.

5 in a row has never been done in either sport. There have been great teams but greatness has until now been confined to 4 in a row
If the Dubs did it everything would be different down in Kerry

Yet you used a quote from a former English football manager.
Great teams retains titles. Different era so can't compare and it doesn't look like Dublin this year have a challenger as good or focused as Offaly was in 1982.
It takes an exceptional team to win 3 in a row.
4 in a row is even more exclusive
It does look like the Dubs will do it but you would have said the same about the Cats in 2010.
They were very nervous

Sorry CF, but if the dubs win this year they do something no one else has ever done. Do you think anyone honestly will care this year that winning the all Ireland this year gets them 1 closer to Kerry's total. It's football immortality and legendary status in the history in the game. You can try and knock their achievements all you want but this is the one year teams ESPECIALLY Kerry will want to beat the dubs.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyCake on January 29, 2019, 02:05:52 PM
Dublin had 21 All Ireland titles to Kerry's 36 pre-2011. That count now is 28 to 37! Dublin are quickly eating away at that lead!

Hope they overtake them.

I hope they both win no more, and the rest (except Tyrone) catch up.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 29, 2019, 03:52:27 PM
Dublin had 21 All Ireland titles to Kerry's 36 pre-2011. That count now is 28 to 37! Dublin are quickly eating away at that lead!

Hope they overtake them.

Typical Mayo ;)

Would you not want Mayo to win a few of them ?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheGreatest on January 29, 2019, 04:25:49 PM
I think you are all forgetting yourselves above with all this positivity for Dublin. Back to Dub hating with you all.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 29, 2019, 04:30:21 PM
Dublin had 21 All Ireland titles to Kerry's 36 pre-2011. That count now is 28 to 37! Dublin are quickly eating away at that lead!

Hope they overtake them.

Typical Mayo ;)

Would you not want Mayo to win a few of them ?
Of course. Once we overtake both it'll be mighty altogether.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on January 29, 2019, 04:49:12 PM
Couldn't make the game but did Galway make use of the mark at all against Cavan?

Not really, I think Cunningham might have caught one but played on, can't be certain. If he did it was by accident rather than any plan. Comer is made for the mark but doesn't look like we'll be paying much heed to it whenever he's back.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on January 29, 2019, 04:59:50 PM
Couldn't make the game but did Galway make use of the mark at all against Cavan?

Not really, I think Cunningham might have caught one but played on, can't be certain. If he did it was by accident rather than any plan. Comer is made for the mark but doesn't look like we'll be paying much heed to it whenever he's back.

I dont think the referee paid much head to it, he didnt blow his whistle for a number of clear marks for either team and as a result they just played on.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2019, 06:28:05 PM
Seafoid's spot on. It's all about the 5 in a row. A number of the senior players will probably retire at the end of this season. Flynn, Brogan, O'Gara etc. It's not about adding another All Ireland to the total won, it's all about doing the 5 in a row and making history even though they won't/can't admit that in public. They're is enough bitterness out there already towards the team without adding unnecessary fuel to the fire.

Dublin didn't even send a representative to the official launch of the league this year.

No he's not spot on.  "Massive" year in the history of the GAA is getting caught up in the hype. Winning 5 in a row is just doing something that Kerry didn't. A bit of bragging rights. They will remain a good number of All Ireland titles off Kerry.

Flynn,Brogan great players at their peak though already fazed out and replaced in the starting team, are you serious by throwing O'Gara in there? Life without Cluxton; McMahon,O’Sullivan,McCarthy was seen last Sunday and they all have big boots to fill once gone.
I don't agree, Cunny.
GAA is not the same as English soccer.

5 in a row has never been done in either sport. There have been great teams but greatness has until now been confined to 4 in a row
If the Dubs did it everything would be different down in Kerry

Yet you used a quote from a former English football manager.
Great teams retains titles. Different era so can't compare and it doesn't look like Dublin this year have a challenger as good or focused as Offaly was in 1982.
It takes an exceptional team to win 3 in a row.
4 in a row is even more exclusive
It does look like the Dubs will do it but you would have said the same about the Cats in 2010.
They were very nervous

Sorry CF, but if the dubs win this year they do something no one else has ever done. Do you think anyone honestly will care this year that winning the all Ireland this year gets them 1 closer to Kerry's total. It's football immortality and legendary status in the history in the game. You can try and knock their achievements all you want but this is the one year teams ESPECIALLY Kerry will want to beat the dubs.

Kerry in transition won't be beating Dublin in the championship this summer. The four in a row Kerry team used around 20 players. Dublin in the last 4 years used over 40 different players in those finals, so Dublin's achievement has been done with teams and that 4 in a row Kerry achievement was with one team.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Sportacus on January 29, 2019, 06:48:41 PM
Monaghan exposed Dublin’s only weakness, unsteady under the high ball into the square.  Often wonder would Mayo have won Sam if they’d put Barry Moran on the square in one of those replays and used him all day.   Also wonder why more teams don’t do this to Dublin, when you think Kerry had Donaghy and didn’t really use him.  Tactics don’t have to be rocket science.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on January 29, 2019, 07:33:14 PM
Monaghan exposed Dublin’s only weakness, unsteady under the high ball into the square.  Often wonder would Mayo have won Sam if they’d put Barry Moran on the square in one of those replays and used him all day.   Also wonder why more teams don’t do this to Dublin, when you think Kerry had Donaghy and didn’t really use him.  Tactics don’t have to be rocket science.

How many of the Dublin Full back line v Monaghan were All Ireland starters? Has there been an offensive mark in the last 8 All Ireland finals?

There are loads of great ideas of how to beat this Dublin team. But no one has done it in an All Ireland final in 8 years. Only Mayo and Donegal have managed it at the semi-final stage, and you would guess Dublin were at the early stage of knowing how to celebrate All Ireland wins and took both for granted before both games.

Barry Moran was just not good enough for the FF role against Dublin - maybe other teams but not Dublin. O'Shea has played there as well v Dublin and was lost, bullied and got nothing from various referees. Players could do what they liked against him. Pull, drag, shove. There was never a free or a Card. There was a blind spot there from referees.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 29, 2019, 07:44:37 PM
In relation to a black card offence, it's blatantly obvious that it matters where the infraction takes place. McManus upending a player on the ball, versus a provoked McManus upending a player away from the action is not the same officiating scenario in the GAA. Both Cooper and McManus were involved in an off the ball incident, a tumble in the grass. If the ref deemed it serious enough, it was either a yellow or red card offence. The ref dealt with the incident appropriately and in accordance with the rules.

As far as I know, there is no stipulation in either the 'deliberate pull down' or the 'trip' black card rule that the offence be on the ball or even that the offence be anywhere near the play.

Seamie O Shea got a black card half way through an All-Ireland Semi final even though the ball was nowhere near the incident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soMVvRJCnvQ
Yeah fair enough, at least one  ref interpreted the black card in that way for an incident off the ball som 3 and half years ago. I would argue that this was not a literal interpretation, I'd say that was an incorrect interpretation. Id hazard a guess that most onlookers  would have expected the ref to give a yellow to O'Shea.  And it would also be reasonable to guess that Cooper had barged into O'Shea in an attempt to provoke him into a reaction just as he did with McManus  :) 
That was an off the ball altercation, O'Shea just reacted  but not cynically, a yellow card would have fitted that crime.
 A cynical trip?  Rock's black card for the hand trip (once deemed deliberate).
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 30, 2019, 08:46:53 AM
Seafoid's spot on. It's all about the 5 in a row. A number of the senior players will probably retire at the end of this season. Flynn, Brogan, O'Gara etc. It's not about adding another All Ireland to the total won, it's all about doing the 5 in a row and making history even though they won't/can't admit that in public. They're is enough bitterness out there already towards the team without adding unnecessary fuel to the fire.

Dublin didn't even send a representative to the official launch of the league this year.

No he's not spot on.  "Massive" year in the history of the GAA is getting caught up in the hype. Winning 5 in a row is just doing something that Kerry didn't. A bit of bragging rights. They will remain a good number of All Ireland titles off Kerry.

Flynn,Brogan great players at their peak though already fazed out and replaced in the starting team, are you serious by throwing O'Gara in there? Life without Cluxton; McMahon,O’Sullivan,McCarthy was seen last Sunday and they all have big boots to fill once gone.
I don't agree, Cunny.
GAA is not the same as English soccer.

5 in a row has never been done in either sport. There have been great teams but greatness has until now been confined to 4 in a row
If the Dubs did it everything would be different down in Kerry

Yet you used a quote from a former English football manager.
Great teams retains titles. Different era so can't compare and it doesn't look like Dublin this year have a challenger as good or focused as Offaly was in 1982.
It takes an exceptional team to win 3 in a row.
4 in a row is even more exclusive
It does look like the Dubs will do it but you would have said the same about the Cats in 2010.
They were very nervous

Sorry CF, but if the dubs win this year they do something no one else has ever done. Do you think anyone honestly will care this year that winning the all Ireland this year gets them 1 closer to Kerry's total. It's football immortality and legendary status in the history in the game. You can try and knock their achievements all you want but this is the one year teams ESPECIALLY Kerry will want to beat the dubs.

Kerry in transition won't be beating Dublin in the championship this summer. The four in a row Kerry team used around 20 players. Dublin in the last 4 years used over 40 different players in those finals, so Dublin's achievement has been done with teams and that 4 in a row Kerry achievement was with one team.

That may be so but in 40 years' time when curious 10 year olds are looking at the record books to learn about the past of the game they love there won't be any detail about how many players were used .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on January 30, 2019, 10:41:56 AM
I see Smith got a one match ban for the eye gouging incident.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on January 30, 2019, 10:51:40 AM
What did Higgins get for the headbutt?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on January 30, 2019, 10:54:11 AM
Monaghan exposed Dublin’s only weakness, unsteady under the high ball into the square.  Often wonder would Mayo have won Sam if they’d put Barry Moran on the square in one of those replays and used him all day.   Also wonder why more teams don’t do this to Dublin, when you think Kerry had Donaghy and didn’t really use him.  Tactics don’t have to be rocket science.
Yep, Dublin haven't had a full back since O'Carroll went down under. Full back line made up of corner backs, feisty, tough, reasonably pacey, but none what you'd call "very good" under a high ball.

One year Mayo gave O'Shea a decent spell in FF against us, and he won every ball. But tactics were awful afterwards. Instead of laying it off he always turned and tried to bulldoze his way through. I could see him doing a lot of damage against us with this rule.
Post O'Carroll, Donaghy has always caused us problems when played at FF. Bizarrely he'd often wander out the field against us, where he's near useless. And when in FF, Kerry rarely used him as their primary tactic. But you could imagine an on-song Geaney and Clifford having a field day.

With our current full back line, the new mark rule definitely doesn't suit us, and I'm relieved it can't be in for 2019 championship. Also, we've not much in the way of fielding full forwards either. O'Gara, on his day, is a very good fielder, but being able to kick the ball over the bar after making a mark would be another question! Bernard is a much under-rated fielder, and obviously well able to kick the ball over, so I think he'd thrive with it. But he'll be retired by the time the mark is in for championship.

Against Monaghan, Dean Rock made a run from full forward in a diagonal line towards the LHF position. He caught a 20 yard pop pass. In normal circumstances his only real option would have been to try and find a runner, as the full back was up behind him and if Rock tried to turn he'd be swallowed up. Instead a mark was called and he'd a easy point from just outside the D.

I think that's a big weakness in the new rule. Unlike a high catch by a full forward under pressure from defenders, I don't think what Rock did deserved a handy tap over point.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: JoG2 on January 30, 2019, 11:55:10 AM
What did Higgins get for the headbutt?

Don't be an ass (repeatedly) ffs. At this stage there should be a specific ban for an eye gouge so there's no ambiguity (there's unfortunately been a few in recent years) of a year ban. 1 match ban is nothing short of a disgrace
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on January 30, 2019, 12:11:01 PM
What did Higgins get for the headbutt?

Don't be an ass (repeatedly) ffs. At this stage there should be a specific ban for an eye gouge so there's no ambiguity (there's unfortunately been a few in recent years) of a year ban. 1 match ban is nothing short of a disgrace

The GAA are well known for change but this was one such incident that was always likely to stay with a one match ban after previous similar incidents so no surprise at all.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Tubberman on January 30, 2019, 12:19:48 PM
What did Higgins get for the headbutt?

A clap on the back for the restraint he showed.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on January 30, 2019, 12:21:33 PM
I see Smith got a one match ban for the eye gouging incident.

It was for endangerment. No mention of "eye gouging".

It seems retaliation isn't an offence any more though.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: JoG2 on January 30, 2019, 12:46:48 PM
I see Smith got a one match ban for the eye gouging incident.

It was for endangerment. No mention of "eye gouging".

It seems retaliation isn't an offence any more though.

Another 'gobeen' has his say. No shortage in Roscommon by the looks of it
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on January 30, 2019, 12:46:48 PM
What did Higgins get for the headbutt?

A clap on the back for the restraint he showed.

That what referee is for. Smith should got 6 months. So next time  one of the Galway lads gets elbow from oconnors will a Galway lad be allowed hit him back?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 30, 2019, 01:03:36 PM
Couldn't make the game but did Galway make use of the mark at all against Cavan?

Not really, I think Cunningham might have caught one but played on, can't be certain. If he did it was by accident rather than any plan. Comer is made for the mark but doesn't look like we'll be paying much heed to it whenever he's back.

No point in putting any effort into it considering it won't be around come championship.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Manning18 on January 30, 2019, 01:29:43 PM
Couldn't make the game but did Galway make use of the mark at all against Cavan?

Not really, I think Cunningham might have caught one but played on, can't be certain. If he did it was by accident rather than any plan. Comer is made for the mark but doesn't look like we'll be paying much heed to it whenever he's back.

No point in putting any effort into it considering it won't be around come championship.

There were 3 or 4 clear mark's by Galway that the ref didnt blow for. It's like he wasnt aware of the rule, although he may just not have whistled in play on opportunities such as Heaney's goal chance. Cooke was attempting to "play quarterback" and set up marks with kicks in but badly misjudged them on a couple of occasions straight to defenders. Comer/Burke, with Conroy providing, would look made for winning marks but as you say i'd say Walsh has put zero stock on the new rules with championship getting the full focus this year
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: giveballaghback on January 30, 2019, 01:37:46 PM
Is charging with the elbow straight out in front not endangerment as is constantly done by Aiden O Shea but he is never pulled for it, or maybe his elbow has a soft centre like the rest of this rhubarb team ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyCake on January 30, 2019, 01:54:43 PM
What did Higgins get for the headbutt?

A clap on the back for the restraint he showed.

That what referee is for. Smith should got 6 months. So next time  one of the Galway lads gets elbow from oconnors will a Galway lad be allowed hit him back?

I’d go further. I’d give a year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on January 30, 2019, 02:04:51 PM
Thankfully you and the baying mob aren't in charge of disciplinary issues.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: JoG2 on January 30, 2019, 02:06:44 PM
Thankfully you and the baying mob aren't in charge of disciplinary issues.

Will say no more, you Rossie's are hitting it out of the park all by yourselves.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 30, 2019, 02:23:48 PM
Couldn't make the game but did Galway make use of the mark at all against Cavan?

Not really, I think Cunningham might have caught one but played on, can't be certain. If he did it was by accident rather than any plan. Comer is made for the mark but doesn't look like we'll be paying much heed to it whenever he's back.

No point in putting any effort into it considering it won't be around come championship.

There were 3 or 4 clear mark's by Galway that the ref didnt blow for. It's like he wasnt aware of the rule, although he may just not have whistled in play on opportunities such as Heaney's goal chance. Cooke was attempting to "play quarterback" and set up marks with kicks in but badly misjudged them on a couple of occasions straight to defenders. Comer/Burke, with Conroy providing, would look made for winning marks but as you say i'd say Walsh has put zero stock on the new rules with championship getting the full focus this year

I like Cooke but he gives the ball away too easily, I've seen him kick scores with both feet from huge distances but then again I've seen him miss right in front of the posts like he did against Kerry last July. Playing Sigerson is getting in the way too. Kieran Molloy too can be a bit wasteful in possession too, needs to cut that out as he's got every attribute to be a brilliant wing back.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on January 30, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
Predictions for the weekend ?

Dublin  v Galway
Ros v Monaghan
Cavan v Kerry
Tyrone v Mayo
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyCake on January 30, 2019, 02:38:28 PM
Thankfully you and the baying mob aren't in charge of disciplinary issues.

It’s not a Roscommon thing. Any player who does it, 1 year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Aaron Boone on January 30, 2019, 02:51:49 PM
Predictions for the weekend ?

Dublin  v Galway
Ros v Monaghan
Cavan v Kerry
Tyrone v Mayo
I'm going for the four favourites: Dublin/Monakhan/Kerry/Tyrone.  Almost a 3/1 accumulator.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 30, 2019, 04:06:02 PM
Thankfully you and the baying mob aren't in charge of disciplinary issues.

Will say no more, you Rossie's are hitting it out of the park all by yourselves.

For a northern man you are more concerned about this than any Mayo poster is on here. The CCCC studied the video evidence and delivered their verdict and punishment. Onto to round 2 now where I think Monaghan,Kerry,Dublin should win and Mayo Tyrone could be a draw.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 30, 2019, 04:37:26 PM
Couldn't make the game but did Galway make use of the mark at all against Cavan?

Not really, I think Cunningham might have caught one but played on, can't be certain. If he did it was by accident rather than any plan. Comer is made for the mark but doesn't look like we'll be paying much heed to it whenever he's back.

No point in putting any effort into it considering it won't be around come championship.

There were 3 or 4 clear mark's by Galway that the ref didnt blow for. It's like he wasnt aware of the rule, although he may just not have whistled in play on opportunities such as Heaney's goal chance. Cooke was attempting to "play quarterback" and set up marks with kicks in but badly misjudged them on a couple of occasions straight to defenders. Comer/Burke, with Conroy providing, would look made for winning marks but as you say i'd say Walsh has put zero stock on the new rules with championship getting the full focus this year

I like Cooke but he gives the ball away too easily, I've seen him kick scores with both feet from huge distances but then again I've seen him miss right in front of the posts like he did against Kerry last July. Playing Sigerson is getting in the way too. Kieran Molloy too can be a bit wasteful in possession too, needs to cut that out as he's got every attribute to be a brilliant wing back.

Cooke is super talented. Can fetch high ball and kick huge points with both feet. Fairly mobile too. Can get up and down the field. Just a bit lax at times with his distribution but easy to forget that these are still young lads and have a few rough edges to knock off yet.

I think his ceiling is probably higher than any other Galway midfielder because of his natural ability. I mean Tom Flynn (who has been great the past year) can't kick scores like Cooke can. Just up to him to put in the work now.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on January 30, 2019, 04:57:58 PM
Couldn't make the game but did Galway make use of the mark at all against Cavan?

Not really, I think Cunningham might have caught one but played on, can't be certain. If he did it was by accident rather than any plan. Comer is made for the mark but doesn't look like we'll be paying much heed to it whenever he's back.

No point in putting any effort into it considering it won't be around come championship.

There were 3 or 4 clear mark's by Galway that the ref didnt blow for. It's like he wasnt aware of the rule, although he may just not have whistled in play on opportunities such as Heaney's goal chance. Cooke was attempting to "play quarterback" and set up marks with kicks in but badly misjudged them on a couple of occasions straight to defenders. Comer/Burke, with Conroy providing, would look made for winning marks but as you say i'd say Walsh has put zero stock on the new rules with championship getting the full focus this year

I like Cooke but he gives the ball away too easily, I've seen him kick scores with both feet from huge distances but then again I've seen him miss right in front of the posts like he did against Kerry last July. Playing Sigerson is getting in the way too. Kieran Molloy too can be a bit wasteful in possession too, needs to cut that out as he's got every attribute to be a brilliant wing back.

Cooke is super talented. Can fetch high ball and kick huge points with both feet. Fairly mobile too. Can get up and down the field. Just a bit lax at times with his distribution but easy to forget that these are still young lads and have a few rough edges to knock off yet.

I think his ceiling is probably higher than any other Galway midfielder because of his natural ability. I mean Tom Flynn (who has been great the past year) can't kick scores like Cooke can. Just up to him to put in the work now.

I agree although I'm a huge fan of D'Arcy too, he's 2 younger than Cooke and and is more mobile although not as tall. Midfield was a huge problem for Galway a few years ago but now have plenty of options. Flynn has really improved the last 12 months and his performances have become very consistent, when you look at that goal against Kerry in 2014 he just doesn't do enough of that.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on January 30, 2019, 06:11:28 PM
Thankfully you and the baying mob aren't in charge of disciplinary issues.
Quite so,  a one match ban v Monaghan and available for last 5 games sounds about right to me.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 30, 2019, 06:51:03 PM
You cannot give one player a ban for doing something and then not examine other incidents in the same game
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: whitey on January 30, 2019, 07:15:19 PM
You cannot give one player a ban for doing something and then not examine other incidents in the same game

Agreed. I heard from someone who was there that AOS was getting belted off the ball all night long
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 30, 2019, 07:22:29 PM
You cannot give one player a ban for doing something and then not examine other incidents in the same game

Agreed. I heard from someone who was there that AOS was getting belted off the ball all night long
some fella called Leroy was at his usual antics too, I heard
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 30, 2019, 07:34:43 PM
You cannot give one player a ban for doing something and then not examine other incidents in the same game

Agreed. I heard from someone who was there that AOS was getting belted off the ball all night long
some fella called Leroy was at his usual antics too, I heard
Which was What? ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on January 30, 2019, 07:40:43 PM
You cannot give one player a ban for doing something and then not examine other incidents in the same game

Agreed. I heard from someone who was there that AOS was getting belted off the ball all night long
some fella called Leroy was at his usual antics too, I heard
Which was What? ::)

Being molested by the Roscommon wing forward all through the first half.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: giveballaghback on January 30, 2019, 08:22:02 PM
Wing forward molesting leeroy ;D as elmer fudd said it aint no fun when the wabbitt gets the gun.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on January 30, 2019, 08:33:42 PM
Wing forward molesting leeroy ;D as elmer fudd said it aint no fun when the wabbitt gets the gun.

 :) :D ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: JoG2 on January 30, 2019, 08:59:41 PM
Thankfully you and the baying mob aren't in charge of disciplinary issues.

Will say no more, you Rossie's are hitting it out of the park all by yourselves.

For a northern man you are more concerned about this than any Mayo poster is on here. The CCCC studied the video evidence and delivered their verdict and punishment. Onto to round 2 now where I think Monaghan,Kerry,Dublin should win and Mayo Tyrone could be a draw.

GAA man, doesn't matter a jot what part I live in
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Manning18 on January 31, 2019, 12:22:15 AM
Couldn't make the game but did Galway make use of the mark at all against Cavan?

Not really, I think Cunningham might have caught one but played on, can't be certain. If he did it was by accident rather than any plan. Comer is made for the mark but doesn't look like we'll be paying much heed to it whenever he's back.

No point in putting any effort into it considering it won't be around come championship.

There were 3 or 4 clear mark's by Galway that the ref didnt blow for. It's like he wasnt aware of the rule, although he may just not have whistled in play on opportunities such as Heaney's goal chance. Cooke was attempting to "play quarterback" and set up marks with kicks in but badly misjudged them on a couple of occasions straight to defenders. Comer/Burke, with Conroy providing, would look made for winning marks but as you say i'd say Walsh has put zero stock on the new rules with championship getting the full focus this year

I like Cooke but he gives the ball away too easily, I've seen him kick scores with both feet from huge distances but then again I've seen him miss right in front of the posts like he did against Kerry last July. Playing Sigerson is getting in the way too. Kieran Molloy too can be a bit wasteful in possession too, needs to cut that out as he's got every attribute to be a brilliant wing back.

Cooke is super talented. Can fetch high ball and kick huge points with both feet. Fairly mobile too. Can get up and down the field. Just a bit lax at times with his distribution but easy to forget that these are still young lads and have a few rough edges to knock off yet.

I think his ceiling is probably higher than any other Galway midfielder because of his natural ability. I mean Tom Flynn (who has been great the past year) can't kick scores like Cooke can. Just up to him to put in the work now.

Flynn's a much better player than he's given credit for, have seen him at Intermediate kicking incredible scores and he was a speedy natural forward when younger apparently. It's like he's told not to shoot for Galway. Granted probably not as much natural football ability as Cooke, who's somewhat similar to Conroy, for better and worse
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Post by: larryin89 on January 31, 2019, 10:05:15 PM
Is charging with the elbow straight out in front not endangerment as is constantly done by Aiden O Shea but he is never pulled for it, or maybe his elbow has a soft centre like the rest of this rhubarb team ::)

Same Soft centre that's beat your hardy bucks everytime in both league and championship.  Shameful record
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Post by: Rossfan on January 31, 2019, 11:44:36 PM
The times they are a changing
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Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 01, 2019, 09:37:00 PM

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Post by: Blowitupref on February 01, 2019, 09:38:51 PM
3 changes to the Galway team that started against Cavan. Out Ruairí Lavelle,Liam Silke,Ian Burke and In Maghnus Breathnach,Gareth Bradshaw,Barry McHugh
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Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 01, 2019, 09:45:16 PM
Surprised Cooke is starting. He must be wrecked. Been playing midweek and weekend for the past few weeks.

Wynne is a worry. Not sure he's quite up to this level of football but limited options with players unavailable. Hope I'm wrong.
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Post by: galwayman on February 01, 2019, 09:51:21 PM
Surprised Cooke is starting. He must be wrecked. Been playing midweek and weekend for the past few weeks.

Wynne is a worry. Not sure he's quite up to this level of football but limited options with players unavailable. Hope I'm wrong.
Agreed he’s not an intercounty standard defender unfortunately.
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Post by: Duine Eile on February 01, 2019, 10:16:39 PM
Not convinced by Duggan either to be honest, he was functional last year but that's about it. Hopefully Breathnach has one of his good games, he's capable of having absolute stinkers. Think we'll see changes to be honest. McHugh wasn't fit enough for the bench last week but he's ready to start against the Dubs this week? Could be a change there.
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Post by: mouview on February 02, 2019, 01:45:46 AM
Not convinced by Duggan either to be honest, he was functional last year but that's about it. Hopefully Breathnach has one of his good games, he's capable of having absolute stinkers. Think we'll see changes to be honest. McHugh wasn't fit enough for the bench last week but he's ready to start against the Dubs this week? Could be a change there.

What did Lavelle do wrong to lose his place? Given his most recent big game appearance, Magnus doesn't inspire total confidence. As usual, that Galway team is so mixed up they might actually confuse the Dubs so much into defeat.
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Post by: galwayman on February 02, 2019, 09:12:45 AM
Not convinced by Duggan either to be honest, he was functional last year but that's about it. Hopefully Breathnach has one of his good games, he's capable of having absolute stinkers. Think we'll see changes to be honest. McHugh wasn't fit enough for the bench last week but he's ready to start against the Dubs this week? Could be a change there.

What did Lavelle do wrong to lose his place? Given his most recent big game appearance, Magnus doesn't inspire total confidence. As usual, that Galway team is so mixed up they might actually confuse the Dubs so much into defeat.
Pretty sure it’s a case of giving Breathnach a chance as opposed to Lavelle being dropped.
O Beolain played against the Dubs in Pearse last year.
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Post by: Rossfan on February 02, 2019, 10:47:53 AM
I suppose we have very little hope of overturning Monaghan.
Especially with Donie Smith out leaving us without our 3 class forwards of the last few years.
Hopefully with our emerging defensive improvenents we can keep McManus from running riot but we'll likely fall short at the other end.
Just saw on stolen-sheep we're without 17 players who played in last year's Championship between injury, retirement,  travel, hurling and maybe not invited back.

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Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 02, 2019, 02:03:09 PM
Dublin

1. Evan Comerford (Ballymun Kickhams)
2. Eric Lowndes (St Peregrine's)
3. Michael Fitzsimons (Cuala)
4. Eoin Murchan (Na Fianna)
5. James McCarthy (Ballymun Kickhams)
6. Jonny Cooper (Na Fianna)
7. John Small (Ballymun Kickhams)
8. Brian Fenton (Raheny)
9. Michael Darragh Macauley (Ballyboden St Enda's)
10. Brian Howard (Raheny)
11. Cormac Costello (Whitehall Colmcille)
12. Niall Scully (Templeogue Synge Street)
13. Paul Mannion (Kilmacud Crokes)
14. Dean Rock (Ballymun Kickhams)
15. Ryan Basquel (Ballyboden St Enda's)
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Post by: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 06:58:26 PM
Macauley,Howard not starting for Dublin, Bugler,Flatman starting instead.  Galway Duane,Darcy starting for Galway instead of McHugh,Wynne.
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Post by: Crete Boom on February 02, 2019, 07:11:56 PM
Great start by the tribesmen, playing great football.
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Post by: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 07:17:22 PM
Galway tactically well set up so far. 15 mins played Dublin 0-2 Galway 0-3
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Post by: Crete Boom on February 02, 2019, 07:21:50 PM
Cunningham should have buried that goal!!
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Post by: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 07:39:13 PM
HT Dublin 0-6 Galway 0-5.
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Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 02, 2019, 07:45:21 PM
Low scoring but a better game than the score line would suggest.

Cormac Costello drifting into space to kick 0-3 so far.

Cunningham should probably have buried his goal chance.
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Post by: galwayman on February 02, 2019, 07:50:04 PM
Low scoring but a better game than the score line would suggest.

Cormac Costello drifting into space to kick 0-3 so far.

Cunningham should probably have buried his goal chance.
Yeah should have stuck it.
Did well to beat the defender on the end line but dragged his shot.
Very little direct ball going into the ff line.
We’re hanging in there but Dubs look dangerous every time they attack whereas we are more labored.
4 excellent scores from play by McDaid & Cooke
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Post by: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 07:57:33 PM
Dublin led by 2 points at half time last weekend. Can Galway do as Monaghan did 2nd half against Dublin?
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Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 02, 2019, 08:03:32 PM
Dublin led by 2 points at half time last weekend. Can Galway do as Monaghan did 2nd half against Dublin?

Not as easy in CP I fear.
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Post by: galwayman on February 02, 2019, 08:06:14 PM
Dublin led by 2 points at half time last weekend. Can Galway do as Monaghan did 2nd half against Dublin?

Not as easy in CP I fear.
Why Cunningham’s mark not given there?
We have to work very hard to create any scoring chances
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Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 02, 2019, 08:07:04 PM
Dublin can be as defensive as anyone but they always put pressure on the ball carrier. Galway still too often stand off attackers and let them take a free shot.
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Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 02, 2019, 08:07:58 PM
Dublin led by 2 points at half time last weekend. Can Galway do as Monaghan did 2nd half against Dublin?

Not as easy in CP I fear.
Why Cunningham’s mark not given there?
We have to work very hard to create any scoring chances

Was kicked from just inside the 45.
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Post by: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 08:16:56 PM
55 mins gone Dublin 0-11 Galway 0-6. The Dubs finding more space to shoot in this 2nd half.
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Post by: sligoman2 on February 02, 2019, 08:17:40 PM
Can’t watch it anymore, just switched to hurling.
Football is in a very sad state, very low entertainment value....
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Post by: galwayman on February 02, 2019, 08:21:19 PM
Dublin can be as defensive as anyone but they always put pressure on the ball carrier. Galway still too often stand off attackers and let them take a free shot.
Agreed having a system is one thing but we do stand off the shooter far too much.
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Post by: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 08:22:07 PM
60 mins gone Dublin 1-13 Galway 0-7. Breathnach should have done better on that goal.
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Post by: galwayman on February 02, 2019, 08:26:31 PM
60 mins gone Dublin 1-13 Galway 0-7. Breathnach should have done better on that goal.
He’s a disaster waiting to happen always has been.
Had a great season at club level but huge step up
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Post by: Schkite on February 02, 2019, 08:29:55 PM
Monaghan team for tomorrow:

Beggan
Duffy
Boyle
R Wylie
Ward
Kerr
Walshe
Hughes
McAdam
Kelly
Malone
Doogan
McCarthy
McCarron
Bannigan

Subs:
S Garland
D Wylie
O'Connell
Corey
Mone
Carey
McAnespie
D Garland
McManus
O'Hanlon
McGinn
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Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 02, 2019, 08:30:51 PM
Will be the expected result based on the players available to us right now.  Very poor overall. 
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Post by: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 08:35:05 PM
FT Dublin 1-15 Galway 0-7. The tribesmen fell away badly in the 2nd half.
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Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 02, 2019, 08:37:30 PM
Some game from Costello. Dublin a different beast inside CP. Annoying how few mistakes they make when you see our own lads making crazy passes or trying low percentage shots. Dublin decision making is usually top class. They are as defensive as anyone when they want to be though but counter attack very efficiently.

0-7 wont win many games needless to say.
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Post by: From the Bunker on February 02, 2019, 09:14:51 PM
FT Dublin 1-15 Galway 0-7. The tribesmen fell away badly in the 2nd half.

These things come in cycles. Galway just have to hang around until this Dublin cycle finishes.
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Post by: moysider on February 02, 2019, 09:18:01 PM
Can’t watch it anymore, just switched to hurling.
Football is in a very sad state, very low entertainment value....

Unless you have a dog in the fight, football is a very hard watch alright.
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Post by: Rossfan on February 02, 2019, 09:36:54 PM
Can’t watch it anymore, just switched to hurling.
Football is in a very sad state, very low entertainment value....

Unless you have a dog in the fight, football is a very hard watch alright.
Did the same as Sligo.
Nearly impossible to watch a game as a neutral any more.
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Post by: From the Bunker on February 02, 2019, 09:53:02 PM
Big crowd of 14,502. The Dubs were out in numbers tonight! Big travelling support from Galway as well.

Division One football is where it is at. And the numbers prove it!
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Post by: sligoman2 on February 02, 2019, 10:06:30 PM
Can’t watch it anymore, just switched to hurling.
Football is in a very sad state, very low entertainment value....

Unless you have a dog in the fight, football is a very hard watch alright.
Did the same as Sligo.
Nearly impossible to watch a game as a neutral any more.

I thought all lockouts had to land outside the 50 yard line?  The short kick outs are terrible, put it out past the 50 and at least let there be a chance of the other team getting the ball.  Sorry I don’t mean to start another rant on the demise of football but it is depressing.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: sligoman2 on February 02, 2019, 10:07:24 PM
Can’t watch it anymore, just switched to hurling.
Football is in a very sad state, very low entertainment value....

Unless you have a dog in the fight, football is a very hard watch alright.
Did the same as Sligo.
Nearly impossible to watch a game as a neutral any more.

I thought all kickouts had to land outside the 50 yard line?  The short kick outs are terrible, put it out past the 50 and at least let there be a chance of the other team getting the ball.  Sorry I don’t mean to start another rant on the demise of football but it is depressing.
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Post by: Rossfan on February 02, 2019, 10:16:13 PM
Big crowd of 14,502.
Poor turn out for Croker.
Could have played it in Parnell Park.
Sligo -that requiremt for kick outs to go beyond the 45 was dropped at an early stage.
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Post by: Farrandeelin on February 02, 2019, 10:18:19 PM
Big crowd of 14,502.
Poor turn out for Croker.
Could have played it in Parnell Park.
Sligo -that requiremt for kick outs to go beyond the 45 was dropped at an early stage.

Yeah, the spring series has lost its appeal.
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Post by: Blowitupref on February 02, 2019, 10:25:20 PM
Big crowd of 14,502. The Dubs were out in numbers tonight! Big travelling support from Galway as well.

Division One football is where it is at. And the numbers prove it!
I presume that attendance was for the 3 games played in Croke Park
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Post by: rodney trotter on February 02, 2019, 10:35:05 PM
Dublin attendances have been on the slide, bar the All Ireland  final last year the crowds not as big previous years.
There wasn't going to be a big tonight, with the Rugby only finishing a while before and only beginning of February.
Dublin bring good crowds to away games. The supporters possibly bored of Croke Park, knowing Dublin will stroll to a win. After so many Leinster and League titles
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Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 02, 2019, 10:39:33 PM
Whatever team you have out you should be able to get more than two scores in a half. Score difference could be the difference between staying up and relegation so not a good night at all for Galway, another very tough match coming up next weekend.
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Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 02, 2019, 10:52:02 PM
Cooke and McDaid probably Galway’s two best players in the first half. McDaid off injured at half time and Cooke was absolutely bollocksed not long after playing 3 games in 6 days. 

Not his fault they lost but Bhreathnach seems involved in too many dodgy goals for my tastes.
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Post by: cornetto on February 02, 2019, 10:59:50 PM
Not a great night between rugby and football,hey first half not bad we were competitive but yes the dubs took over in second half and gave us a right beating.it's not all despair, they are the benchmark and only have three or more to come back!😀
Would you believe instead of a night in coppers,a galway selection will play corofin tomorrow,now that's co- operation!!!
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Post by: Rossfan on February 02, 2019, 11:33:18 PM
At least the rubby crowd are gone very quiet tonight.
The East Brits must have won ;D
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Post by: Itchy on February 03, 2019, 12:04:57 AM
I had a feeling Dubs would do that to Galway, Cavan are very ordinary and Galway looked just as ordinary last week.
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Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 03, 2019, 12:45:30 AM
I had a feeling Dubs would do that to Galway, Cavan are very ordinary and Galway looked just as ordinary last week.

Galway have a lot of good players to come back yet but that still won’t challenge Dublin in the summer without a change of approach.
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Post by: Farrandeelin on February 03, 2019, 09:04:16 AM
I had a feeling Dubs would do that to Galway, Cavan are very ordinary and Galway looked just as ordinary last week.

Galway have a lot of good players to come back yet but that still won’t challenge Dublin in the summer without a change of approach.

Unfortunately there are 30 counties in the same boat as Galway.
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Post by: Itchy on February 03, 2019, 10:14:24 AM
I had a feeling Dubs would do that to Galway, Cavan are very ordinary and Galway looked just as ordinary last week.

Galway have a lot of good players to come back yet but that still won’t challenge Dublin in the summer without a change of approach.

Agreed, I know it's not your strongest team. Point I was making was ye are pretty weak at the moment and that beating was expected by me. Also agree anyone playing very defensive like Galway will not beat Dublin.
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Post by: mrdeeds on February 03, 2019, 02:15:37 PM
Good start for Cavan. 5 2 up. Kerry playing very negatively. All 15 in their own half.
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Post by: Schkite on February 03, 2019, 02:22:10 PM
One change to Monaghan's named team - Carey in for McAdam. I was expecting a couple more changes considering the strength of the named bench. At least we'll have a few good options for impacts subs.
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Post by: mrdeeds on February 03, 2019, 02:27:43 PM
7 6 Cavan now. Kerry haven't scored from play.
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Post by: Schkite on February 03, 2019, 02:38:51 PM
Listening to the Cavan game on Northern Sound as I wait on some word of the Monaghan game. Cavan up 4 now, Kerry sound like they're absolute muck.
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Post by: mrdeeds on February 03, 2019, 02:40:27 PM
Cavan 11 7 Ht and should be more. One Kerry point from play. They are so negative and defensive.
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2019, 02:46:48 PM
Cavan 11 7 Ht and should be more. One Kerry point from play. They are so negative and defensive.

Jesus! How did they beat Tyrone so well and throwing up that muck! Makes you wonder how Tyrone are
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Post by: straightred on February 03, 2019, 02:56:45 PM
Listening to the Cavan game on Northern Sound as I wait on some word of the Monaghan game. Cavan up 4 now, Kerry sound like they're absolute muck.

Roscommon 4-3 up 22 mins
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Post by: Schkite on February 03, 2019, 03:15:38 PM
Listening to the Cavan game on Northern Sound as I wait on some word of the Monaghan game. Cavan up 4 now, Kerry sound like they're absolute muck.

Roscommon 4-3 up 22 mins

6-4 HT. Monaghan been very poor and Roscommon had a rake of wides as well as missing a one on one against Beggan. Hopefully a similar 2nd half performance and bench impact as last week.
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Post by: mrdeeds on February 03, 2019, 03:17:22 PM
12 11 Cavan now. Kerry couple more scores from play.
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Post by: clarshack on February 03, 2019, 03:22:58 PM
Cavan 11 7 Ht and should be more. One Kerry point from play. They are so negative and defensive.

Jesus! How did they beat Tyrone so well and throwing up that muck! Makes you wonder how Tyrone are

Based on what I've seen so far in Healy park, Tyrone are brutal.
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Post by: mrdeeds on February 03, 2019, 03:26:29 PM
Kerry one up. Nearly time up.
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Post by: Schkite on February 03, 2019, 03:27:32 PM
Cavan throwing away a golden opportunity by the sounds of it. Had a man advantage for 10 minutes but didn't score in that period and let Kerry into the lead.
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Post by: Schkite on February 03, 2019, 03:28:40 PM
McManus on for Bannigan at half time.
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Post by: Schkite on February 03, 2019, 03:33:35 PM
7-6 to Monaghan in Dr Hyde after 5 minutes of the 2nd half, sounds like a different team. Hopefully they keep it up.
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Post by: seafoid on February 03, 2019, 03:35:32 PM
Cavan and Ros playing well
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Post by: mrdeeds on February 03, 2019, 03:38:20 PM
Kerry win 16 13.
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Post by: seafoid on February 03, 2019, 04:08:48 PM
Great win for Mayo

Tyrone a start like last year
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Post by: Schkite on February 03, 2019, 04:11:51 PM
After a promising start to the half by Monaghan, they fell away and didn't push on. Roscommon fully deserving of the win. Penalty the difference in the end. Some change to the hype after the Dubs win, for O'Hanlon too - from being the match winner to getting sent off.

Very disappointing but not the end of the world at this time of the year. As long as they regroup and learn for the rest of the league and especially the championship.
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Post by: oakleafgael on February 03, 2019, 04:27:12 PM
Tyrone awful again. Only Peter Harte making an impact. Andy Moran brilliant for Mayo. Aidan O'Shea letting himself down again with the amateur dramatics again.
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Post by: seafoid on February 03, 2019, 04:38:23 PM
What a fantastic win for the Rossies. Big scalp
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Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2019, 04:56:39 PM
That was pure muck by Tyrone, long winter, short summer based on that
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Post by: J70 on February 03, 2019, 05:51:38 PM
That was pure muck by Tyrone, long winter, short summer based on that

Yes, but it is probably NOT going to be based on what happens at the end of January/beginning of February, is it?
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Post by: Main Street on February 03, 2019, 05:57:39 PM
What a fantastic win for the Rossies. Big scalp
That's it in a nutshell, every team will want to beat the team that beat the Dubs.
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Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 03, 2019, 05:57:50 PM
That was pure muck by Tyrone, long winter, short summer based on that

Not unusual for Tyrone to start the year slow though. Admittedly they are not usually quite this poor.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 03, 2019, 06:06:05 PM
Healy Park looked to be in its usual shite condition. What do they use the ground for during the week? mud wrestling?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2019, 06:08:24 PM
That was pure muck by Tyrone, long winter, short summer based on that

Not unusual for Tyrone to start the year slow though. Admittedly they are not usually quite this poor.

Never seen the game v Kerry,  but to score just 3 points up to the 42 minute at home, will tell you all you need to know.

The free taker was dreadful, fielding was awful.. Mikey would have a lot of work to improve that!

Kieth Higgins goal brilliant and the oldest man on the pitch the best player
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Post by: spuds on February 03, 2019, 06:12:58 PM
That was pure muck by Tyrone, long winter, short summer based on that

Not unusual for Tyrone to start the year slow though. Admittedly they are not usually quite this poor.

Never seen the game v Kerry,  but to score just 3 points up to the 42 minute at home, will tell you all you need to know.

The free taker was dreadful, fielding was awful.. Mikey would have a lot of work to improve that!

Kieth Higgins goal brilliant and the oldest man on the pitch the best player
Higgins 34 shortly. Andy Moran 36 at end of year.
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Post by: Blowitupref on February 03, 2019, 07:28:25 PM
Ah the NFL with its thrills and spills, the sooner those the top realize this is the tiered competition they seek the better.

Very impressive win for Mayo must be record win for them in Omagh? and more than makes up for their 12 point home defeat last year. Not just two defeats for Tyrone but just 0-7,0-10 the last two weekends is very poor.

Cavan with another competitive showing in Div 1 but Kerry like Galway last week had that little bit extra to grab the victory.

The rossies up and running with a win against the odds. The 2nd AI semi finalist they have beaten in the last 3 weekends and holding teams to low scores. Monaghan's lack of consistency strikes again though.

Roll on week 3.
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Post by: Rossfan on February 03, 2019, 07:45:48 PM
A right humdinger in the Hyde as we overcame all sorts of handicaps to beat mighty Monaghan.
2 men in the sin bin at the same time, too many wides, Conor McManus, Harney hobbling, an Ulster Ref, our best forward suspended....... 16 of last year's panel not available
Amazing what organisation, attitude and organised defending can achieve.
Helps when you have a Manager who picks the best available players and then sets about making them competitive Inter County footballers.
Dalys massive today and Killoran continues to excel (at the right time today).
Very positive day and we should have a right cut at staying in Div 1 now.
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Post by: SouthDublinBro on February 03, 2019, 08:02:01 PM
Kevin McStay was holding back that Roscommon team for years.
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Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 03, 2019, 08:15:05 PM
A right humdinger in the Hyde as we overcame all sorts of handicaps to beat mighty Monaghan.
2 men in the sin bin at the same time, too many wides, Conor McManus, Harney hobbling, an Ulster Ref, our best forward suspended....... 16 of last year's panel not available
Amazing what organisation, attitude and organised defending can achieve.
Helps when you have a Manager who picks the best available players and then sets about making them competitive Inter County footballers.
Dalys massive today and Killoran continues to excel (at the right time today).
Very positive day and we should have a right cut at staying in Div 1 now.
No forwards playing in defence helps
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: oliverkelly on February 03, 2019, 08:19:39 PM
A right humdinger in the Hyde as we overcame all sorts of handicaps to beat mighty Monaghan.
2 men in the sin bin at the same time, too many wides, Conor McManus, Harney hobbling, an Ulster Ref, our best forward suspended....... 16 of last year's panel not available
Amazing what organisation, attitude and organised defending can achieve.
Helps when you have a Manager who picks the best available players and then sets about making them competitive Inter County footballers.
Dalys massive today and Killoran continues to excel (at the right time today).
Very positive day and we should have a right cut at staying in Div 1 now.
No forwards playing in defence helps
A right humdinger in the Hyde as we overcame all sorts of handicaps to beat mighty Monaghan.
2 men in the sin bin at the same time, too many wides, Conor McManus, Harney hobbling, an Ulster Ref, our best forward suspended....... 16 of last year's panel not available
Amazing what organisation, attitude and organised defending can achieve.
Helps when you have a Manager who picks the best available players and then sets about making them competitive Inter County footballers.
Dalys massive today and Killoran continues to excel (at the right time today).
Very positive day and we should have a right cut at staying in Div 1 now.

The at the right time re killoran is right. That he was average for 50 minutes and could have been taken off then finished unreal caught two unreal balls set up kilroy and maybe luckily set up Harney for the penalty. Dalys and all defenders excellent. Great win and fully deserved. Taught ref was hard on us. Cox was quite from play and done a lot of tracking back. Cox some outragous frees with the outside of the boot
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 03, 2019, 09:19:59 PM
Tyrone awful again. Only Peter Harte making an impact. Andy Moran brilliant for Mayo. Aidan O'Shea letting himself down again with the amateur dramatics again.
That was a straight red all day long, cheap, cowardly shot
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on February 03, 2019, 09:56:40 PM
Galway were shocking yesterday, no imagination, no common sense and looked like they had decided before the game that Dublin were going to win this, what's the point of trying. Breathnach wasn't the answer in goal 4 years ago, he still isn't. SA O Ceallaigh can't defend without fouling, our half back line can't defend. Midfield was a disaster, Duggan isn't a shadow of the player he was last year, putting Tom Flynn in the FF line showed a bit of outside the box thinking but then they don't kick in any long ball into him  ::) Cooke, McDaid and Sean Kelly were the only ones to show a bit of fight yesterday. Shane Walsh, yet again, flattered to deceive, when the pressure came on he didn't want to know. Johnny Duane in the forward line is another ridiculous decision. There's plenty of excuses being offered for the pathetic performance between club commitments, injuries, fitness levels etc but that wasn't good enough. 

Would you believe instead of a night in coppers,a galway selection will play corofin tomorrow,now that's co- operation!!!

I wouldn't call that cooperation, I'd call that flogging players who have a busy enough schedule without adding extra matches. Peter Cooke in particular has had a seriously demanding month and he's not finished yet.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 03, 2019, 10:24:14 PM
I think it's going to be a struggle to stay up with tough away matches to come (I don't think Tyrone will be as bad by the time Round 7 comes along), realistically Galway have to win both remaining home games and see if that's enough. The way they are playing at the moment I don't see any points to be had in Monaghan next weekend.
It's not great at the minute but we'll have to reserve judgement until the summer is over, no point getting too up or down in the first week of February.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on February 03, 2019, 10:26:52 PM
I think it's going to be a struggle to stay up with tough away matches to come (I don't think Tyrone will be as bad by the time Round 7 comes along), realistically Galway have to win both remaining home games and see if that's enough. The way they are playing at the moment I don't see any points to be had in Monaghan next weekend.
It's not great at the minute but we'll have to reserve judgement until the summer is over, no point getting too up or down in the first week of February.

Enough going on to set alarm bells ringing though! We also don't have a consistent free taker, Shane Walsh misses as many as he scores, in all likelihood McHugh won't be playing come championship and he's inconsistent enough with them too.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 03, 2019, 10:36:19 PM
I didn't expect anything different from the league this year for Galway then what's transpired so far, as a result I'm not ready to sound the alarm bells just yet but obviously performances like Saturday night are not good enough at all at this level.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 03, 2019, 10:38:26 PM
I think it's going to be a struggle to stay up with tough away matches to come (I don't think Tyrone will be as bad by the time Round 7 comes along), realistically Galway have to win both remaining home games and see if that's enough. The way they are playing at the moment I don't see any points to be had in Monaghan next weekend.
It's not great at the minute but we'll have to reserve judgement until the summer is over, no point getting too up or down in the first week of February.

Enough going on to set alarm bells ringing though! We also don't have a consistent free taker, Shane Walsh misses as many as he scores, in all likelihood McHugh won't be playing come championship and he's inconsistent enough with them too.

Not sure we'll be able to read much from the league to be honest bar Kevin Walsh is not going to change. We might have 4 possibly 5 different forwards on the field in the Summer than we had against Dublin. A few more changes further back.

Think we have to win our two remaining home games because I don't see us picking up any points on the road.

Felt for Cooke the last day. Very good in the first half but was running on fumes by half time. Only for all the players unavailable I'm sure Walsh probably wouldn't be using him so much given his schedule.

McDaid and Sean Andy injury doubts now for Monaghan as well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 04, 2019, 11:41:49 AM
What a fantastic win for the Rossies. Big scalp
That's it in a nutshell, every team will want to beat the team that beat the Dubs.
Especially Cavan

EPIC by PATRICK KAVANAGH, 1938

I have lived in important places, times
When great events were decided : who owned
That half a rood of rock, a no-man's land
Surrounded by our pitchfork-armed claims.

I heard the Duffys shouting "Damn your soul"
And old McCabe stripped to the waist, seen
Step the plot defying blue cast-steel -
"Here is the march along these iron stones."

That was the year of the Munich bother. Which
Was most important ? I inclined
To lose my faith in Ballyrush and Gortin
Till Homer's ghost came whispering to my mind.
He said : I made the Iliad from such
A local row. Gods make their own importance.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 04, 2019, 11:45:24 AM
I think it's going to be a struggle to stay up with tough away matches to come (I don't think Tyrone will be as bad by the time Round 7 comes along), realistically Galway have to win both remaining home games and see if that's enough. The way they are playing at the moment I don't see any points to be had in Monaghan next weekend.
It's not great at the minute but we'll have to reserve judgement until the summer is over, no point getting too up or down in the first week of February.

Enough going on to set alarm bells ringing though! We also don't have a consistent free taker, Shane Walsh misses as many as he scores, in all likelihood McHugh won't be playing come championship and he's inconsistent enough with them too.




Not sure we'll be able to read much from the league to be honest bar Kevin Walsh is not going to change. We might have 4 possibly 5 different forwards on the field in the Summer than we had against Dublin. A few more changes further back.

Think we have to win our two remaining home games because I don't see us picking up any points on the road.

Felt for Cooke the last day. Very good in the first half but was running on fumes by half time. Only for all the players unavailable I'm sure Walsh probably wouldn't be using him so much given his schedule.

McDaid and Sean Andy injury doubts now for Monaghan as well.

Sure it's only the league

Mayo on 4
5 teams on 2
Tyrone and Cavan on zero

apart from the dubs the teams are mediocre enough. Aithnionn ciarog ciarog eile


https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/dublin-open-up-the-engine-and-leave-galway-standing-still-1.3780604
   “We were still well in the game at 0-9 to 0-6, but had 12 kicked turnovers in the second half, which is just unacceptable. Allowing Dublin counter-attack by kicking away so many stupid balls is going to put you under pressure. I’d be very unhappy with that, and also there was a stage when the goal went in, the reaction to that wouldn’t have been that pleasing. We allowed them fetch a lot of ball in the air as well without contesting properly.

 “We’ll take the learnings from this. It’s important that we look and say, ‘What did we do well and what did we do poorly?’ When the goal went in I have to say we wouldn’t be happy that maybe defeat was accepted at that time. Maybe fatigue kicked in a bit, as I said we haven’t as much work done, and losing Cillian McDaid at half-time was a big loss.”
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 04, 2019, 12:43:19 PM
I think it's going to be a struggle to stay up with tough away matches to come (I don't think Tyrone will be as bad by the time Round 7 comes along), realistically Galway have to win both remaining home games and see if that's enough. The way they are playing at the moment I don't see any points to be had in Monaghan next weekend.
It's not great at the minute but we'll have to reserve judgement until the summer is over, no point getting too up or down in the first week of February.

Enough going on to set alarm bells ringing though! We also don't have a consistent free taker, Shane Walsh misses as many as he scores, in all likelihood McHugh won't be playing come championship and he's inconsistent enough with them too.

Not sure we'll be able to read much from the league to be honest bar Kevin Walsh is not going to change. We might have 4 possibly 5 different forwards on the field in the Summer than we had against Dublin. A few more changes further back.

Think we have to win our two remaining home games because I don't see us picking up any points on the road.

Felt for Cooke the last day. Very good in the first half but was running on fumes by half time. Only for all the players unavailable I'm sure Walsh probably wouldn't be using him so much given his schedule.

McDaid and Sean Andy injury doubts now for Monaghan as well.

Once I saw the team and the bench I didn't expect anything else then a drubbing. Its the league and we all knew it would be a struggle with the players that are missing and where Galways fitness is at compared to last year. Duggan, Cooke & D'Arcy all played full games during the week and all ran out of steam early in the 2nd half.

Player wise there were a couple of positives in Cooke & McDaid. If Cooke continues to play like he did in the first half he has to start come the championship as does McDaid. McDaid needs games but given what I saw I think he can be a big player come the summer.

Duggan was woeful & Shane Walsh was far too quiet but it did look like they paid him special attention. O'Donnell looked far too slow when in possession whilst Cunningham looks like he can win his own ball but not overly comfortable when he has it, he's another one who needs a lot more matches.

Armstrong, Cunnane & Cooney are making up the numbers and won't be near the panel come the summer so it was nice touch bringing them all on in Croke Park.

Tactically if he's going to continue to play this way I just don't understand why more pressure isn't applied to the opposition when they head inside Galway's 45m line. There's no way near enough pressure applied to the man with the ball.

Whatever happens during the league I'll reserve judgement until the championship but I do think this is a very good panel when everyone is fit. When you consider McDaid & Silke and even Dylan Wall are back and the likes of Cooke & Molloy are a year older all combined with the year they had last year Galway then I expect them do better in the championship than in 2018. There's a lot of quality on the panel and the vast majority of the best players are aged under 25/26
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 04, 2019, 03:05:23 PM
Are you expecting Galway to reach the All Ireland final then Maroon Manc?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 04, 2019, 03:08:16 PM
Sure it's only the league

Fair enough but I guarantee it won't feel like that if we go back down into Division Two. Galway need to be showing a lot better by the 24th when Kerry come to Tuam.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 04, 2019, 05:14:49 PM
Ros v Tyrone next Sunday Páirc de hÍde 2pm.
That will be 3 of last year's All Ireland semi Finalists plus the 2nd best team in Ireland in 4 successive weeks.
Heady days.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: highorlow on February 04, 2019, 05:17:45 PM
Quote
Ros v Tyrone next Sunday Páirc de hÍde 2pm.
That will be 3 of last year's All Ireland semi Finalists plus the 2nd best team in Ireland in 4 successive weeks.
Heady days.

When was the Ross A v B match?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Ball Hopper on February 04, 2019, 05:54:50 PM
I think it's going to be a struggle to stay up with tough away matches to come (I don't think Tyrone will be as bad by the time Round 7 comes along), realistically Galway have to win both remaining home games and see if that's enough. The way they are playing at the moment I don't see any points to be had in Monaghan next weekend.
It's not great at the minute but we'll have to reserve judgement until the summer is over, no point getting too up or down in the first week of February.

Enough going on to set alarm bells ringing though! We also don't have a consistent free taker, Shane Walsh misses as many as he scores, in all likelihood McHugh won't be playing come championship and he's inconsistent enough with them too.





Sure it's only the league

Mayo on 4
5 teams on 2
Tyrone and Cavan on zero

apart from the dubs the teams are mediocre enough. Aithnionn ciarog ciarog eile


Count again, economics boy.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 04, 2019, 06:36:31 PM
I think it's going to be a struggle to stay up with tough away matches to come (I don't think Tyrone will be as bad by the time Round 7 comes along), realistically Galway have to win both remaining home games and see if that's enough. The way they are playing at the moment I don't see any points to be had in Monaghan next weekend.
It's not great at the minute but we'll have to reserve judgement until the summer is over, no point getting too up or down in the first week of February.

Enough going on to set alarm bells ringing though! We also don't have a consistent free taker, Shane Walsh misses as many as he scores, in all likelihood McHugh won't be playing come championship and he's inconsistent enough with them too.





Sure it's only the league

Mayo on 4
5 teams on 2
Tyrone and Cavan on zero

apart from the dubs the teams are mediocre enough. Aithnionn ciarog ciarog eile


Count again, economics boy.
good man yourself
Doesn't change the fact that the teams are mediocre
Football is a mess
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 04, 2019, 07:59:06 PM
What a fantastic win for the Rossies. Big scalp
That's it in a nutshell, every team will want to beat the team that beat the Dubs.
Especially Cavan

EPIC by PATRICK KAVANAGH, 1938

I have lived in important places, times
When great events were decided : who owned
That half a rood of rock, a no-man's land
Surrounded by our pitchfork-armed claims.

I heard the Duffys shouting "Damn your soul"
And old McCabe stripped to the waist, seen
Step the plot defying blue cast-steel -
"Here is the march along these iron stones."

That was the year of the Munich bother. Which
Was most important ? I inclined
To lose my faith in Ballyrush and Gortin
Till Homer's ghost came whispering to my mind.
He said : I made the Iliad from such
A local row. Gods make their own importance.
However, it's Galway not Cavan who will be coming to fortress Gratton Park, Inniskeen, birth place of the great bard. The list of those counties who have come a cropper in Inniskeen is mighty, now its Galway's turn to face the epic chop.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 04, 2019, 08:53:54 PM
Fair play Roscommon though needed the kerryman to dig them out of a hole yesterday.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 04, 2019, 09:15:18 PM
Just an accident of birth. Pure Roscommon stock.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on February 04, 2019, 09:48:08 PM
Fergal Gavin's (Galway and Mountbellew Moylough) son Darren came on for Dublin on Saturday night actually, I believe he's fairly highly rated in Dublin according to reports locally.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Gael85 on February 04, 2019, 10:09:54 PM
Fergal Gavin's (Galway and Mountbellew Moylough) son Darren came on for Dublin on Saturday night actually, I believe he's fairly highly rated in Dublin according to reports locally.

Yes Darren plays with Lucan Sarsfields. A bit of late developer. Came off the bench against Galway in u21 final two years and won man of the match award. Has plenty of pace but probably needs to fill out more. Could be a long term replacement for MDMA.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 05, 2019, 08:13:47 AM
The Dubs haven't been using the mark as Gavin knows come the championship they can handpass and solo teams to death on the break
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 05, 2019, 08:27:57 AM
What a fantastic win for the Rossies. Big scalp
That's it in a nutshell, every team will want to beat the team that beat the Dubs.
Especially Cavan

EPIC by PATRICK KAVANAGH, 1938

I have lived in important places, times
When great events were decided : who owned
That half a rood of rock, a no-man's land
Surrounded by our pitchfork-armed claims.

I heard the Duffys shouting "Damn your soul"
And old McCabe stripped to the waist, seen
Step the plot defying blue cast-steel -
"Here is the march along these iron stones."

That was the year of the Munich bother. Which
Was most important ? I inclined
To lose my faith in Ballyrush and Gortin
Till Homer's ghost came whispering to my mind.
He said : I made the Iliad from such
A local row. Gods make their own importance.
However, it's Galway not Cavan who will be coming to fortress Gratton Park, Inniskeen, birth place of the great bard. The list of those counties who have come a cropper in Inniskeen is mighty, now its Galway's turn to face the epic chop.

Who can forget this classic the last time ye brought us to one of your many shitholes...

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0212/852087-monaghan-and-cavan-play-out-uninspiring-stalemate/
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 05, 2019, 09:40:36 AM
The Dubs haven't been using the mark as Gavin knows come the championship they can handpass and solo teams to death on the break

Teams  are resorting to hand passing as teams like Roscommon  sticking 15 bodies behind with little ambition of attacking. If you  ever played football you know pointless into 3 full forwards against 14 full backs. Hard to implement zoning players in a half and wouldn't at club level.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 05, 2019, 10:31:57 AM
The Dubs haven't been using the mark as Gavin knows come the championship they can handpass and solo teams to death on the break

Teams  are resorting to hand passing as teams like Roscommon  sticking 15 bodies behind with little ambition of attacking. If you  ever played football you know pointless into 3 full forwards against 14 full backs. Hard to implement zoning players in a half and wouldn't at club level.

Kerry regularly had 15 men behind the ball last Sunday and Cavan worked a number of great marks against them resulting in scores. This then had the effect of Kerry keep more men closer to the FF which then allowed us to run the ball through them. Worked a treat with the wind. Obviously a lot harder against the wind.

Its ideal if you practice on it as the forward just needs to make the catch, without the mark you make the catch turn around and are confronted by 5 defenders and you pass it back out again. I believe Monaghan did something similar against Dublin in Rd 1. Its a shame it isn't being left in place for championship in my opinion.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 11:04:00 AM
Are you expecting Galway to reach the All Ireland final then Maroon Manc?

Not at all. I wouldn't be as negative on the team as many Galway supporters appear to be but since Kevin Walsh there has been slight improvements every year come the championship. Given Silke & McDaid are back and that Cooke looks to have improved too its not unreasonable to expect an improvement on last year and that doesn't necessarily mean getting to a final.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 05, 2019, 11:22:00 AM
The Dubs haven't been using the mark as Gavin knows come the championship they can handpass and solo teams to death on the break

Teams  are resorting to hand passing as teams like Roscommon  sticking 15 bodies behind with little ambition of attacking. If you  ever played football you know pointless into 3 full forwards against 14 full backs. Hard to implement zoning players in a half and wouldn't at club level.
you get the ball up the field quicker than they can drop 15 behind the ball
I have coached to quite a high level
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 05, 2019, 11:42:48 AM
The Dubs haven't been using the mark as Gavin knows come the championship they can handpass and solo teams to death on the break

Teams  are resorting to hand passing as teams like Roscommon  sticking 15 bodies behind with little ambition of attacking. If you  ever played football you know pointless into 3 full forwards against 14 full backs. Hard to implement zoning players in a half and wouldn't at club level.
you get the ball up the field quicker than they can drop 15 behind the ball
I have coached to quite a high level

I doubt that know. Majority of teams keep at least 10 bodies behind ball regardless if defending or attacking.  Kerry have the best footballers and they can't beat blanket defence
Donegal and Tyrone won sam Maguire with blanket defence but  they had top inside forwards .
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: weareros on February 05, 2019, 11:58:57 AM
The Dubs haven't been using the mark as Gavin knows come the championship they can handpass and solo teams to death on the break

Teams  are resorting to hand passing as teams like Roscommon  sticking 15 bodies behind with little ambition of attacking. If you  ever played football you know pointless into 3 full forwards against 14 full backs. Hard to implement zoning players in a half and wouldn't at club level.

In our two league games to date, Roscommon created more scoring chances than both Mayo and Monaghan, and more goal chances too. New manager has been only in the gig since mid November and is dealing with a huge turnover and injuries. I expect when players like Diarmuid Murtagh get back to full fitness, we will see that increase. But the above is fairly lazy analysis that you’d hear on a podcast like GAA Hour.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 05, 2019, 12:08:06 PM
Are you expecting Galway to reach the All Ireland final then Maroon Manc?

Not at all. I wouldn't be as negative on the team as many Galway supporters appear to be but since Kevin Walsh there has been slight improvements every year come the championship. Given Silke & McDaid are back and that Cooke looks to have improved too its not unreasonable to expect an improvement on last year and that doesn't necessarily mean getting to a final.

Yes McDaid and Silke are big additions but I'm not sure what can be described as improved season on last year? Another AI semi final would show consistency. Mayo in 2011 after shipping a heavy AI semi defeat went on to reach the AI final the following year. I'm intrigued to see how Galway perform this summer some Galway supporters reckon they won't improve further and become AI contenders once again until a new manager is brought in which I think is a bit harsh considering how far Galway have come in the last 5 years.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 05, 2019, 01:01:12 PM
Are you expecting Galway to reach the All Ireland final then Maroon Manc?

Not at all. I wouldn't be as negative on the team as many Galway supporters appear to be but since Kevin Walsh there has been slight improvements every year come the championship. Given Silke & McDaid are back and that Cooke looks to have improved too its not unreasonable to expect an improvement on last year and that doesn't necessarily mean getting to a final.

Yes McDaid and Silke are big additions but I'm not sure what can be described as improved season on last year? Another AI semi final would show consistency. Mayo in 2011 after shipping a heavy AI semi defeat went on to reach the AI final the following year. I'm intrigued to see how Galway perform this summer some Galway supporters reckon they won't improve further and become AI contenders once again until a new manager is brought which I think is a bit harsh considering how far Galway have come in the last 5 years.

I don't think an All Ireland final against the Dubs did Tyrone any good . Big tankings in CP on the big day are very hard psychologically
Galway should be thinking about positioning themselves for the post Dubs era
Clare won a handy all Ireland in 2013 when KK got dumped out of the championship early
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 05, 2019, 01:13:01 PM
Are you expecting Galway to reach the All Ireland final then Maroon Manc?

Not at all. I wouldn't be as negative on the team as many Galway supporters appear to be but since Kevin Walsh there has been slight improvements every year come the championship. Given Silke & McDaid are back and that Cooke looks to have improved too its not unreasonable to expect an improvement on last year and that doesn't necessarily mean getting to a final.

Yes McDaid and Silke are big additions but I'm not sure what can be described as improved season on last year? Another AI semi final would show consistency. Mayo in 2011 after shipping a heavy AI semi defeat went on to reach the AI final the following year. I'm intrigued to see how Galway perform this summer some Galway supporters reckon they won't improve further and become AI contenders once again until a new manager is brought which I think is a bit harsh considering how far Galway have come in the last 5 years.

I don't think an All Ireland final against the Dubs did Tyrone any good . Big tankings in CP on the big day are very hard psychologically
Galway should be thinking about positioning themselves for the post Dubs era
Clare won a handy all Ireland in 2013 when KK got dumped out of the championship early

Yes, these things come in cycles. This Dublin cycle should be over in about 5 years, going by their age profile (and them blooding feck all players in the mean time  ;D ). Better for Galway to sit on their hands for now, win Connacht titles and just qualify for the Super 8 (hopefully on the opposite side of the draw to Dublin).  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 05, 2019, 01:16:40 PM
Dublin are gone 2 years past their end of cycle date so or did they start a new one in 2017?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 05, 2019, 01:32:01 PM
GK   1   Stephen Cluxton   
CB   2   Michael Fitzsimons   
FB   3   Rory O'Carroll   
CB   4   Cian O'Sullivan   
WB   5   James McCarthy      
HB   6   Ger Brennan   
WB   7   Kevin Nolan   
MF   8   Denis Bastick   
MF   9   Michael Darragh MacAuley   
WF   10   Paul Flynn      
HF   11   Barry Cahill   
WF   12   Bryan Cullen (c)   
CF   13   Alan Brogan   
FF   14   Diarmuid Connolly   
CF   15   Bernard Brogan

Above is the 2011 AI starting team! The lads in Bold are the players who started the 2018 All Ireland final!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 05, 2019, 01:46:20 PM

Who can forget this classic the last time ye brought us to one of your many shitholes...

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0212/852087-monaghan-and-cavan-play-out-uninspiring-stalemate/
Blaney could be perceived as a shithole but at least it's not Cavan.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 05, 2019, 01:56:22 PM

Who can forget this classic the last time ye brought us to one of your many shitholes...

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0212/852087-monaghan-and-cavan-play-out-uninspiring-stalemate/
Blaney could be perceived as a shithole but at least it's not Cavan.

Ah main Street. You will be very welcome to Cavan in the summer to sit in the oldest ground in Ulster, steeped in wonderful history, with its brand new prunty pitch and it wonderful flood lights. You can go out the back and see pictures of famous Cavan all Ireland winners on the walls. Outside the ground you can view the exciting plans for a new centre of excellence. It will be a real treat for you and the travelling Monaghan supporters.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2019, 02:40:23 PM
Are you expecting Galway to reach the All Ireland final then Maroon Manc?

Not at all. I wouldn't be as negative on the team as many Galway supporters appear to be but since Kevin Walsh there has been slight improvements every year come the championship. Given Silke & McDaid are back and that Cooke looks to have improved too its not unreasonable to expect an improvement on last year and that doesn't necessarily mean getting to a final.

Yes McDaid and Silke are big additions but I'm not sure what can be described as improved season on last year? Another AI semi final would show consistency. Mayo in 2011 after shipping a heavy AI semi defeat went on to reach the AI final the following year. I'm intrigued to see how Galway perform this summer some Galway supporters reckon they won't improve further and become AI contenders once again until a new manager is brought in which I think is a bit harsh considering how far Galway have come in the last 5 years.

Wouldn't be as harsh on Kevin Walsh as some others, will reserve judgment until the championship but can see why others are getting a bit frustrated. I think Galway have the players to play in a more attacking way once everyone is fit although if Galway had opened up against them on Saturday the scoreline would have been a lot more embarrassing then it was given the players available.

I'd like to see Kevin Walsh be a little less pragmatic in his approach, only time will whether he can be.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 05, 2019, 03:32:18 PM
Are you expecting Galway to reach the All Ireland final then Maroon Manc?

Not at all. I wouldn't be as negative on the team as many Galway supporters appear to be but since Kevin Walsh there has been slight improvements every year come the championship. Given Silke & McDaid are back and that Cooke looks to have improved too its not unreasonable to expect an improvement on last year and that doesn't necessarily mean getting to a final.

Yes McDaid and Silke are big additions but I'm not sure what can be described as improved season on last year? Another AI semi final would show consistency. Mayo in 2011 after shipping a heavy AI semi defeat went on to reach the AI final the following year. I'm intrigued to see how Galway perform this summer some Galway supporters reckon they won't improve further and become AI contenders once again until a new manager is brought in which I think is a bit harsh considering how far Galway have come in the last 5 years.

Wouldn't be as harsh on Kevin Walsh as some others, will reserve judgment until the championship but can see why others are getting a bit frustrated. I think Galway have the players to play in a more attacking way once everyone is fit although if Galway had opened up against them on Saturday the scoreline would have been a lot more embarrassing then it was given the players available.

I'd like to see Kevin Walsh be a little less pragmatic in his approach, only time will whether he can be.

Kevin is an accountant so it's no wonder he's so fond of mentioning the bloody end of year accounts so often. Most accountants I know would be fairly risk averse so I wouldn't expect him to change. He replaced Tally with Kevin Stritch who is probably best known for his work with Castleknock in Dublin and they were a very defensive outfit. I think Walsh is who he is at this point. A conservative coach.

That said due to circumstances it's probably unfair to judge him on the league this year. He's pretty much come out and said they are well behind last year's work and are only looking to stay up by any means necessary. Still if they go down there will be serious pressure on them to perform in the Summer. You have John Divilly up at UCD and PJ with the U-20's so there are some of his former teammates knocking around that might become more attractive propositions if he has a bad year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 05, 2019, 04:07:34 PM
We can lament the defensive setup (KW rightly gets some flak however anyone who was up in Antrim in 2012, had to witness the Mayo shellacking in 2013 or one of the many, many one point championship defeats etc. needs to admit that at least the county team is no longer in the gutter) but a bigger issue is that Galway's chance conversion rate simply isn't good enough, lot of talk about the "potential" of the forwards but the fact is they require way too many chances to kick a winning score total, that must change for Galway to in any way improve on last year. Look at the Kerry game last year, they should have beaten them out the gate well before the injury time goal sealed it.
In comparison Dublin are a model of economy with their shot to score ratio on top of all the other great things they do.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 05, 2019, 05:25:09 PM
We can lament the defensive setup (KW rightly gets some flak however anyone who was up in Antrim in 2012, had to witness the Mayo shellacking in 2013 or one of the many, many one point championship defeats etc. needs to admit that at least the county team is no longer in the gutter) but a bigger issue is that Galway's chance conversion rate simply isn't good enough, lot of talk about the "potential" of the forwards but the fact is they require way too many chances to kick a winning score total, that must change for Galway to in any way improve on last year. Look at the Kerry game last year, they should have beaten them out the gate well before the injury time goal sealed it.
In comparison Dublin are a model of economy with their shot to score ratio on top of all the other great things they do.
Dubs skill level is much higher than most teams
Kick with both feet, pass off either hand, step off either foot

Plus maximise every advantage going - 3/4 steps extra while bouncing the ball, cutting in front of chasing player while soloing or running, setting screens to get space to shoot.
All highly coachable
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 05, 2019, 05:29:04 PM
The Dubs haven't been using the mark as Gavin knows come the championship they can handpass and solo teams to death on the break

Teams  are resorting to hand passing as teams like Roscommon  sticking 15 bodies behind with little ambition of attacking. If you  ever played football you know pointless into 3 full forwards against 14 full backs. Hard to implement zoning players in a half and wouldn't at club level.
you get the ball up the field quicker than they can drop 15 behind the ball
I have coached to quite a high level

I doubt that know. Majority of teams keep at least 10 bodies behind ball regardless if defending or attacking.  Kerry have the best footballers and they can't beat blanket defence
Donegal and Tyrone won sam Maguire with blanket defence but  they had top inside forwards .
Fair enough.
Not many teams winning titles with 15 lads behind the ball though, like you said
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: sans pessimism on February 06, 2019, 11:06:28 AM
Are you expecting Galway to reach the All Ireland final then Maroon Manc?

Not at all. I wouldn't be as negative on the team as many Galway supporters appear to be but since Kevin Walsh there has been slight improvements every year come the championship. Given Silke & McDaid are back and that Cooke looks to have improved too its not unreasonable to expect an improvement on last year and that doesn't necessarily mean getting to a final.

Yes McDaid and Silke are big additions but I'm not sure what can be described as improved season on last year? Another AI semi final would show consistency. Mayo in 2011 after shipping a heavy AI semi defeat went on to reach the AI final the following year. I'm intrigued to see how Galway perform this summer some Galway supporters reckon they won't improve further and become AI contenders once again until a new manager is brought in which I think is a bit harsh considering how far Galway have come in the last 5 years.

Wouldn't be as harsh on Kevin Walsh as some others, will reserve judgment until the championship but can see why others are getting a bit frustrated. I think Galway have the players to play in a more attacking way once everyone is fit although if Galway had opened up against them on Saturday the scoreline would have been a lot more embarrassing then it was given the players available.

I'd like to see Kevin Walsh be a little less pragmatic in his approach, only time will whether he can be.

Kevin is an accountant so it's no wonder he's so fond of mentioning the bloody end of year accounts so often. Most accountants I know would be fairly risk averse so I wouldn't expect him to change. He replaced Tally with Kevin Stritch who is probably best known for his work with Castleknock in Dublin and they were a very defensive outfit. I think Walsh is who he is at this point. A conservative coach.

That said due to circumstances it's probably unfair to judge him on the league this year. He's pretty much come out and said they are well behind last year's work and are only looking to stay up by any means necessary. Still if they go down there will be serious pressure on them to perform in the Summer. You have John Divilly up at UCD and PJ with the U-20's so there are some of his former teammates knocking around that might become more attractive propositions if he has a bad year.
I thought he is an ex-Garda that sells insurance?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: spuds on February 06, 2019, 11:12:03 AM
Are you expecting Galway to reach the All Ireland final then Maroon Manc?

Not at all. I wouldn't be as negative on the team as many Galway supporters appear to be but since Kevin Walsh there has been slight improvements every year come the championship. Given Silke & McDaid are back and that Cooke looks to have improved too its not unreasonable to expect an improvement on last year and that doesn't necessarily mean getting to a final.

Yes McDaid and Silke are big additions but I'm not sure what can be described as improved season on last year? Another AI semi final would show consistency. Mayo in 2011 after shipping a heavy AI semi defeat went on to reach the AI final the following year. I'm intrigued to see how Galway perform this summer some Galway supporters reckon they won't improve further and become AI contenders once again until a new manager is brought in which I think is a bit harsh considering how far Galway have come in the last 5 years.

Wouldn't be as harsh on Kevin Walsh as some others, will reserve judgment until the championship but can see why others are getting a bit frustrated. I think Galway have the players to play in a more attacking way once everyone is fit although if Galway had opened up against them on Saturday the scoreline would have been a lot more embarrassing then it was given the players available.

I'd like to see Kevin Walsh be a little less pragmatic in his approach, only time will whether he can be.

Kevin is an accountant so it's no wonder he's so fond of mentioning the bloody end of year accounts so often. Most accountants I know would be fairly risk averse so I wouldn't expect him to change. He replaced Tally with Kevin Stritch who is probably best known for his work with Castleknock in Dublin and they were a very defensive outfit. I think Walsh is who he is at this point. A conservative coach.

That said due to circumstances it's probably unfair to judge him on the league this year. He's pretty much come out and said they are well behind last year's work and are only looking to stay up by any means necessary. Still if they go down there will be serious pressure on them to perform in the Summer. You have John Divilly up at UCD and PJ with the U-20's so there are some of his former teammates knocking around that might become more attractive propositions if he has a bad year.
I thought he is an ex-Garda that sells insurance?
Ex builder also?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 06, 2019, 12:36:12 PM
Are you expecting Galway to reach the All Ireland final then Maroon Manc?

Not at all. I wouldn't be as negative on the team as many Galway supporters appear to be but since Kevin Walsh there has been slight improvements every year come the championship. Given Silke & McDaid are back and that Cooke looks to have improved too its not unreasonable to expect an improvement on last year and that doesn't necessarily mean getting to a final.

Yes McDaid and Silke are big additions but I'm not sure what can be described as improved season on last year? Another AI semi final would show consistency. Mayo in 2011 after shipping a heavy AI semi defeat went on to reach the AI final the following year. I'm intrigued to see how Galway perform this summer some Galway supporters reckon they won't improve further and become AI contenders once again until a new manager is brought in which I think is a bit harsh considering how far Galway have come in the last 5 years.

Wouldn't be as harsh on Kevin Walsh as some others, will reserve judgment until the championship but can see why others are getting a bit frustrated. I think Galway have the players to play in a more attacking way once everyone is fit although if Galway had opened up against them on Saturday the scoreline would have been a lot more embarrassing then it was given the players available.

I'd like to see Kevin Walsh be a little less pragmatic in his approach, only time will whether he can be.

Kevin is an accountant so it's no wonder he's so fond of mentioning the bloody end of year accounts so often. Most accountants I know would be fairly risk averse so I wouldn't expect him to change. He replaced Tally with Kevin Stritch who is probably best known for his work with Castleknock in Dublin and they were a very defensive outfit. I think Walsh is who he is at this point. A conservative coach.

That said due to circumstances it's probably unfair to judge him on the league this year. He's pretty much come out and said they are well behind last year's work and are only looking to stay up by any means necessary. Still if they go down there will be serious pressure on them to perform in the Summer. You have John Divilly up at UCD and PJ with the U-20's so there are some of his former teammates knocking around that might become more attractive propositions if he has a bad year.
I thought he is an ex-Garda that sells insurance?
Ex builder also?

He was both a Garda then a builder/developer but is now a QFA not an accountant, QFA qualification is for anyone involved in selling/advising on retail financial products so fair play to him to still be pursuing career opportunities outside of the GAA.
Anyway in my opinion it has sweet f**k all to do with whether he is a good/bad/conservative/expansive manager.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 07, 2019, 01:48:33 PM
Could any Monaghan poster give a steer on the car parking situation in Inniskeen on Sunday?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Boycey on February 07, 2019, 01:55:59 PM
Could any Monaghan poster give a steer on the car parking situation in Inniskeen on Sunday?

Huge car park at ground will probably cater for the expected crowd I'd say. Also side of road parking and you won't have to walk far. If youre in the back of carpark it could take 15/20 mins to get away but nothing major.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 07, 2019, 09:43:20 PM
Mayo team for Saturday night.

1. David Clarke - Ballina Stephenites
2. Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Diarmuid O’Connor - Ballintubber
9. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
10. Fionn McDonagh - Westport
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy(C)
12. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
13. Evan Regan - Ballina Stephenites
14. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
15. Colm Moran - Westport
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Randy on February 07, 2019, 10:16:52 PM
Interesting line up. I thought Colm moran was excellent a blow in carrick in the FBD but he's a few years of S&C ahead of him before he will be ready for serious football. Good prospect though. Conor loftus must be dropped altogether is he?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 07, 2019, 10:47:42 PM
2 or 3 last chance saloon players there. Hopefully they realise it before the saloon takes off. Maybe Coen is better off in the corner back position. Maybe Caff will come good, maybe Regan will shoot the lights out and it won't be a once off. Happy with the rest though. I'm happy with the captaincy decision for the night also.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 07, 2019, 11:42:49 PM
2 or 3 last chance saloon players there. Hopefully they realise it before the saloon takes off. Maybe Coen is better off in the corner back position. Maybe Caff will come good, maybe Regan will shoot the lights out and it won't be a once off. Happy with the rest though. I'm happy with the captaincy decision for the night also.

If only there was a credible option to Clarkie and then all of you out in bandit country would be happy even though you couldn't do what the mighty men from the Stephenites did in 2005?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 07, 2019, 11:53:57 PM
I'm getting worried about Sunday as the Tymoanies are all gone very quiet ???
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 08, 2019, 07:16:28 AM
2 or 3 last chance saloon players there. Hopefully they realise it before the saloon takes off. Maybe Coen is better off in the corner back position. Maybe Caff will come good, maybe Regan will shoot the lights out and it won't be a once off. Happy with the rest though. I'm happy with the captaincy decision for the night also.

If only there was a credible option to Clarkie and then all of you out in bandit country would be happy even though you couldn't do what the mighty men from the Stephenites did in 2005?  ;D ;D

 ;D yere an awful sensitive bunch altogether across the little streameen. I gave up defending Caff until he came back from injury, although in fairness you gotta give him massive credit for sticking with it. As I said, I hope they all have blinders.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: tonto1888 on February 08, 2019, 08:02:38 AM
Connolly back for Dublin. Sherlock gone. Are these reports true?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on February 08, 2019, 08:32:35 AM
Connolly back for Dublin. Sherlock gone. Are these reports true?
Sherlock gone does seem to be true.

Mossy Quinn publicising a picture of himself with Connolly attending Croker last weekend was an interesting one. Does seem like it's a toe in the water of Connolly coming back. He's not back training with the group yet, but I'd say the chances have gone from bleak to 50/50.

Although I believe himself and Gavin just don't get on, so still have to put that hurdle behind them and Connolly may have to accept role as super sub (or unused sub at times). So I wouldnt put the house on it just yet.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: tonto1888 on February 08, 2019, 09:39:43 AM
Connolly back for Dublin. Sherlock gone. Are these reports true?
Sherlock gone does seem to be true.

Mossy Quinn publicising a picture of himself with Connolly attending Croker last weekend was an interesting one. Does seem like it's a toe in the water of Connolly coming back. He's not back training with the group yet, but I'd say the chances have gone from bleak to 50/50.

Although I believe himself and Gavin just don't get on, so still have to put that hurdle behind them and Connolly may have to accept role as super sub (or unused sub at times). So I wouldnt put the house on it just yet.

From the outside looking in Sherlock going seems like a shock. Would that be the case
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 08, 2019, 09:58:33 AM
Cillian McDaid and Declan Kyne are out for the remainder for national league according to @TribesmenGAA twitter.
This injury situation is only going from bad to worse for Galway and the likes of Peter Cooke are getting flogged with the number of matches every week - some fringe players really need to make a big step up in the remaining league rounds.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 08, 2019, 10:21:11 AM
Cillian McDaid and Declan Kyne are out for the remainder for national league according to @TribesmenGAA twitter.
This injury situation is only going from bad to worse for Galway and the likes of Peter Cooke are getting flogged with the number of matches every week - some fringe players really need to make a big step up in the remaining league rounds.

Just saw that. Down to the bare bones at this stage.

Pity about McDaid. He probably needs to play as much football as he can having been away for a year. 0-2 in the first half against Dublin before his injury showed what he's capable of. Just needs more game time. He won't get that now but at least he'll be fit in time for the championship.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 08, 2019, 10:45:54 AM
 Any one leaving a 4 in a row set up is a shock unless it's something from private life.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 08, 2019, 12:39:21 PM
Cillian McDaid and Declan Kyne are out for the remainder for national league according to @TribesmenGAA twitter.
This injury situation is only going from bad to worse for Galway and the likes of Peter Cooke are getting flogged with the number of matches every week - some fringe players really need to make a big step up in the remaining league rounds.

Just saw that. Down to the bare bones at this stage.
Yeah, options getting thin on the ground at this stage.  McDaid is a big loss in so far as he needs loads of football after his year in Australia.  He started well against the Dubs last weekend but obviously picked up a bad knock before HT.  Looks like the Sigerson lads will be in action so again this weekend.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 08, 2019, 12:44:30 PM
Cillian McDaid and Declan Kyne are out for the remainder for national league according to @TribesmenGAA twitter.
This injury situation is only going from bad to worse for Galway and the likes of Peter Cooke are getting flogged with the number of matches every week - some fringe players really need to make a big step up in the remaining league rounds.

Just saw that. Down to the bare bones at this stage.
Yeah, options getting thin on the ground at this stage.  McDaid is a big loss in so far as he needs loads of football after his year in Australia.  He started well against the Dubs last weekend but obviously picked up a bad knock before HT.  Looks like the Sigerson lads will be in action so again this weekend.

Sean Andy out for a few weeks now as well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on February 08, 2019, 04:04:10 PM
I'm getting worried about Sunday as the Tymoanies are all gone very quiet ???

7/4 for Roscommon at home seems like a decent price in the context of the results last weekend
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 08, 2019, 09:30:14 PM

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on February 08, 2019, 09:47:48 PM
Cillian McDaid and Declan Kyne are out for the remainder for national league according to @TribesmenGAA twitter.
This injury situation is only going from bad to worse for Galway and the likes of Peter Cooke are getting flogged with the number of matches every week - some fringe players really need to make a big step up in the remaining league rounds.

Just saw that. Down to the bare bones at this stage.
Yeah, options getting thin on the ground at this stage.  McDaid is a big loss in so far as he needs loads of football after his year in Australia.  He started well against the Dubs last weekend but obviously picked up a bad knock before HT.  Looks like the Sigerson lads will be in action so again this weekend.

Sean Andy out for a few weeks now as well.

We'll be lucky to field a team on Sunday at all on Sunday with all these injuries, it's crazy. To look on the bright side, Johnny Duane might be named in the defence this weekend instead of centre forward 🙄
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 08, 2019, 10:00:37 PM
Galway starting XV to face Monaghan
(2019 NFL Div.1, Rd.3)

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Salthill/Knocknacarra)
2. Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdowngaa)
3. Johnny Duane (St. James')
4. David Wynne (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
5. Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
7. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
8. Thomas Flynn (Stmarysgaa Athenry)
9. Ciarán Duggan (Annaghdown)
10. Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin/Clonberne)
11. Peter Cooke (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
12. Sean Kelly (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
13. Padraig Cunningham (Headford)
14. Cein D'Arcy (Caherlistrane)
15. Antoine Ó Laoi (C.L.G. An Spidéal)

Some of the NUIG lads starting. Probably has no other choice really but Cooke was goosed by half time last weekend. Another midfielder up full forward.

I’d love to see who’s left to sit on the bench.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 08, 2019, 10:10:23 PM
Galway starting XV to face Monaghan
(2019 NFL Div.1, Rd.3)

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Salthill/Knocknacarra)
2. Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdowngaa)
3. Johnny Duane (St. James')
4. David Wynne (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
5. Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
7. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
8. Thomas Flynn (Stmarysgaa Athenry)
9. Ciarán Duggan (Annaghdown)
10. Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin/Clonberne)
11. Peter Cooke (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
12. Sean Kelly (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
13. Padraig Cunningham (Headford)
14. Cein D'Arcy (Caherlistrane)
15. Antoine Ó Laoi (C.L.G. An Spidéal)

Some of the NUIG lads starting. Probably has no other choice really but Cooke was goosed by half time last weekend. Another midfielder up full forward.

I’d love to see who’s on the bench.

For all those missing that is still team with i think 12 players that has started championship games.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on February 08, 2019, 10:14:54 PM
Galway starting XV to face Monaghan
(2019 NFL Div.1, Rd.3)

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Salthill/Knocknacarra)
2. Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdowngaa)
3. Johnny Duane (St. James')
4. David Wynne (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
5. Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
7. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
8. Thomas Flynn (Stmarysgaa Athenry)
9. Ciarán Duggan (Annaghdown)
10. Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin/Clonberne)
11. Peter Cooke (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
12. Sean Kelly (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
13. Padraig Cunningham (Headford)
14. Cein D'Arcy (Caherlistrane)
15. Antoine Ó Laoi (C.L.G. An Spidéal)

Some of the NUIG lads starting. Probably has no other choice really but Cooke was goosed by half time last weekend. Another midfielder up full forward.

I’d love to see who’s left to sit on the bench.

Cooke has some mileage put in the last few weeks, the schedule is crazy. Corofin's club run is really affecting us this year, more than I can ever remember. Good luck to the lads playing, not feeling too optimistic but hopefully they'll do themselves justice. Good to see Lavelle back in goal, Our full forward line is vey green, not a championship game between them. I'm guessing we're either going to go for a few marks with Darcy in there or else he'll be in the backs trying to prevent Monaghan catching too many.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 08, 2019, 10:32:02 PM
Galway starting XV to face Monaghan
(2019 NFL Div.1, Rd.3)

1. Ruairi Lavelle (Salthill/Knocknacarra)
2. Eoghan Kerin (Annaghdowngaa)
3. Johnny Duane (St. James')
4. David Wynne (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
5. Gary O'Donnell (Tuam Stars)
6. Gareth Bradshaw (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
7. Johnny Heaney (Killannin)
8. Thomas Flynn (Stmarysgaa Athenry)
9. Ciarán Duggan (Annaghdown)
10. Shane Walsh (Kilkerrin/Clonberne)
11. Peter Cooke (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
12. Sean Kelly (Mhaigh Cuilinn)
13. Padraig Cunningham (Headford)
14. Cein D'Arcy (Caherlistrane)
15. Antoine Ó Laoi (C.L.G. An Spidéal)

Some of the NUIG lads starting. Probably has no other choice really but Cooke was goosed by half time last weekend. Another midfielder up full forward.

I’d love to see who’s left to sit on the bench.

Cooke has some mileage put in the last few weeks, the schedule is crazy. Corofin's club run is really affecting us this year, more than I can ever remember. Good luck to the lads playing, not feeling too optimistic but hopefully they'll do themselves justice. Good to see Lavelle back in goal, Our full forward line is vey green, not a championship game between them. I'm guessing we're either going to go for a few marks with Darcy in there or else he'll be in the backs trying to prevent Monaghan catching too many.

Would this team of "unavailables" beat the availables? Think they would beat them handily to be honest.

Power
Kyne
Sean Andy
Silke
Molloy
J Daly
Wall
Conroy
O'Curraoin
Brannigan
M Daly
McDaid
Varley
Comer
Burke
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on February 08, 2019, 10:36:14 PM
Imagine Sunday's half back line on that half forward line, they'd win it on their own!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 08, 2019, 10:37:53 PM
Any reason why Danny Cummins has fell so out of favour? Was a regular starter for Walsh when he first arrived and now he can't get a start when the likes of M Daly,D Comer,I Burke are out.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on February 08, 2019, 10:42:01 PM
Any reason why Danny Cummins has fell so out of favour? Was a regular starter for Walsh when he first arrived and now he can't get a start when the likes of M Daly,D Comer,I Burke are out.

His finishing let him down an awful lot, constantly got into good positions but would more often than not fluff his final shot. That said he was injured most of last year and will probably be on the bench Sunday. He came on against the Dubs last Saturday.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 09, 2019, 01:47:46 PM
Monaghan squad for tomorrow:

Rory Beggan
Kieran Duffy
Drew Wylie
Ryan Wylie
Dessie Ward
Barry Kerr
Colin Walshe
Darren Hughes
Neil McAdam
Ryan McAnespie
Dermot Malone
Fintan Kelly
Shane Carey
Jack McCarron
Micheal Bannigan.

Subs:
Shane Garland
Vincent Corey
Dessie Mone
James Mealiff
Owen Duffy
Thomas Kerr
Gavin Doogan
Conor McCarthy
Conor McManus
David Garland
Barry McGinn

Anyone know if Boyle or O'Connell picked up knocks last week? Strange they're not there otherwise.
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Post by: Cunny Funt on February 09, 2019, 02:46:36 PM
Monaghan squad for tomorrow:

Rory Beggan
Kieran Duffy
Drew Wylie
Ryan Wylie
Dessie Ward
Barry Kerr
Colin Walshe
Darren Hughes
Neil McAdam
Ryan McAnespie
Dermot Malone
Fintan Kelly
Shane Carey
Jack McCarron
Micheal Bannigan.

Subs:
Shane Garland
Vincent Corey
Dessie Mone
James Mealiff
Owen Duffy
Thomas Kerr
Gavin Doogan
Conor McCarthy
Conor McManus
David Garland
Barry McGinn

Anyone know if Boyle or O'Connell picked up knocks last week? Strange they're not there otherwise.

Looking at the match report from last weekend. Boyle was subbed off after 14 mins and O'Connell on 54 mins which would suggest both picked up injuries. Why is Conor McManus a sub for the 3rd game in a row?
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Post by: seafoid on February 09, 2019, 03:16:10 PM
Irish Times previews

Roscommon v Tyrone Dr Hyde Park [Deferred, TG4] – On available form the home side will fancy themselves here. Last week’s win over Monaghan was a tenacious day’s work and a creditable follow-up to their competitive opener in Castlebar. Former Kerry player Conor Cox played a big role in the win, including scoring the winner. Tyrone find themselves rooted to the bottom of the table, surprisingly after another good pre-season in the McKenna Cup. Mickey Harte has a solid enough team named – whatever about who takes the field – for what will be a demanding assignment in front of a buzzed-up home support and the instinct is that they will rediscover enough form to take the points here.Verdict: Tyrone

Monaghan v Galway, Inniskeen [Live, TG4] – Two teams with a 50-50 record to date and a fair bit of recent history. The evening Galway’s progressive 2018 went off the rails was when Monaghan arrived in Salthill for the last of the All-Ireland quarter-final round robins. The home side’s performance was astonishingly poor and it was downhill from there. Against Dublin they flattered to deceive and have now been further reduced by injuries to Cillian McDaid, who was impressive early on last week but now needs surgery on his foot, former All Star nominee Declan Kyne (ankle injury), and full back Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (shoulder). At home Monaghan will want to get back on the track that led them to beat Dublin on opening day. Verdict: Monaghan


I thought Galway did not want to get hammered by the Dubs in the
AIF at this stage of their development and left the pleasure to the winners of
Monaghan v Tyrone in the other semi.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 09, 2019, 03:35:45 PM
Monaghan squad for tomorrow:

Rory Beggan
Kieran Duffy
Drew Wylie
Ryan Wylie
Dessie Ward
Barry Kerr
Colin Walshe
Darren Hughes
Neil McAdam
Ryan McAnespie
Dermot Malone
Fintan Kelly
Shane Carey
Jack McCarron
Micheal Bannigan.

Subs:
Shane Garland
Vincent Corey
Dessie Mone
James Mealiff
Owen Duffy
Thomas Kerr
Gavin Doogan
Conor McCarthy
Conor McManus
David Garland
Barry McGinn

Anyone know if Boyle or O'Connell picked up knocks last week? Strange they're not there otherwise.

Looking at the match report from last weekend. Boyle was subbed off after 14 mins and O'Connell on 54 mins which would suggest both picked up injuries. Why is Conor McManus a sub for the 3rd game in a row?


I remember them coming off alright but haven't heard anything since regarding how long they'd be out. Hopefully nothing long term.

On McManus, I've no issues with him playing alot less in the league, starting a few and being used as an impact sub in others. He's an awful lot of football played over the years and we'll have to manage him well if we want him to to keep on going at his usual standard for a few championships yet, he won't do that if he's playing every minute of the league. It also gives more of a chance to the younger forwards to make a claim for a place.

Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up starting this one, Malachy is usually good for a late change or two to the named team. If McManus doesn't start, I'd prefer to see one of McCarthy/McGinn/Garland start and pull McCarron back to the 40. The named forward line is a bit too workmanlike and not enough scorers for my liking.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 09, 2019, 04:11:18 PM
Kerry will beat the jackeens. Will want to lay down marker for later in year.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: clarshack on February 09, 2019, 07:39:17 PM
Maurice Deegan doesn't seem to know that players are only supposed to take 4 steps
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Harold Disgracey on February 09, 2019, 07:40:29 PM
A very enjoyable game so far between Kerry and Dublin.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: sid waddell on February 09, 2019, 07:45:22 PM
It's high time Gaelic football became a winter sport.

A Saturday night, a full house in a tight stadium, live free to air English language television coverage, and some beers watching a savage game of football.

This is the Premier League of Gaelic football. This is the future.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 09, 2019, 07:47:22 PM
Kerry will win this easy. Have the window in second half. Stuck 50 on them to win at 4/1 as well as my accumulator. #easymoney
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 09, 2019, 07:47:30 PM
Should that goal had stood? https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1094319531214950401
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 09, 2019, 08:01:38 PM
Not exactly breaking news but Cluxton is an absolutely huge loss when he's not in the team
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 09, 2019, 08:25:40 PM
Think it's the quietest game I've ever seen Fenton have.

And as I type he kicks a point in the 66th minute.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 09, 2019, 08:26:16 PM
Amount of steps lads are allowed take is ridiculous
Also, most players fouling the ball when they go to pick it up
Foot must play the ball first but most lads stick their hands onto the ball at same time as the foot arrives
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 09, 2019, 08:34:15 PM
Some comeback by the 14 man Dublin, the Kerry winner was like the Meath winner in 1991.  Great game credit to both sides.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: clarshack on February 09, 2019, 08:38:04 PM
it was a good entertaining game of football.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 09, 2019, 08:38:38 PM
Just goes to show that Dublin can beat anybody outside of Croke Park. Croke Park gives them no advantage.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Sportacus on February 09, 2019, 08:40:20 PM
Great game.  I’ve said it before, the problem with football generally is the bullshit negative coaching.  Not tonight though, two teams attacking until they were ready to drop. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Watcher on February 09, 2019, 08:40:53 PM
Tyrone started that row there.  Shame in on them
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 09, 2019, 08:42:23 PM
The drinks are on. The Ging bar in Carrick tonight for a drink if anyone about. :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 09, 2019, 08:42:59 PM
Just goes to show that Dublin can beat anybody outside of Croke Park. Croke Park gives them no advantage.
+1
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Armagh18 on February 09, 2019, 08:43:47 PM
Great game, two super teams going at it. Clear from watching that game that new kickout rule needs to stay offensive mark needs to go.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 09, 2019, 08:46:26 PM
The drinks are on. The Ging bar in Carrick tonight for a drink if anyone about. :) :) :) :) :)
Good man - helping the Riscommon economy.
Exciting stuff from Tralee, nearly as good as the Hyde last Sunday.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 09, 2019, 08:49:44 PM
Solid, unspectacular, almost boring win from Mayo
Thought Ruane had a good game, Colm Moran looked a bit over awed, great point from Reape.
Some phenomenal tackling, it’s been a real constant this year from us.
The line up against the dubs will be interesting, could nearly field a full team of the kids

Edit: delighted for Caff, great game, top quality back play
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: twohands!!! on February 09, 2019, 09:21:36 PM
Should that goal had stood? https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1094319531214950401

I'd have given it as a free out for a blatant foul on the keeper.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 09, 2019, 09:36:37 PM
Should that goal had stood? https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1094319531214950401

I'd have given it as a free out for a blatant foul on the keeper.
Did he not get his fist to ball first before he clattered into the goalie?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Tubberman on February 09, 2019, 09:39:09 PM
Should that goal had stood? https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1094319531214950401

I'd have given it as a free out for a blatant foul on the keeper.
Did he not get his fist to ball first before he clattered into the goalie?

Whichever way it should have gone, it wasn't blatant.
poor camera angle makes it hard to know whar actually happened.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 09, 2019, 09:48:26 PM
Good win for Mayo this evening. Once they went ahead, there was going to be 1 winner.

I thought Clarke was poor on kickouts. Full back line were good, especially Caff - heard he got motm, fully deserved in my opinion. Halfback line was consistent, Plunkett didn't do anything wrong. Midfield is a worry, not enough primary possession or breaking ball won in that sector. Half forwards were good too, Doherty could feel aggrieved not to get motm, I thought he did very well. Colm Moran as Mayo4Sam was a bit overawed. The subs were Good, Vaughan scored a great point, McLoughlin was his usual busy self around the middle. As for Regan, I criticised him earlier in the week, he did well. Pity if he's injured again.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 09, 2019, 09:49:25 PM
Should that goal had stood? https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1094319531214950401

I'd have given it as a free out for a blatant foul on the keeper.
Did he not get his fist to ball first before he clattered into the goalie?
He did, the ball was there to be won.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Randy on February 09, 2019, 09:57:25 PM
He was excellent Mayoforsam. Won every ball that went in on him I'd say. Thoughts Clarke's kicksouts were poor. What did you think?

Regan done well I thought. Hope his injury isn't to serious, Hand I think. You would swear Macloughlin was never away. Fitted right back in when he came on.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on February 09, 2019, 10:10:35 PM
Probably survive now , very helpful to get three wins in the first three games. I dread to think of the hammering the dubs will dish out to us though.  They could cut through us for a half dozen goals , caff the hero tonight but gawd help him the next day . Oh sufferin jeez I don't think I'll even go to it.

Mayo have been alright but two bad sides in Tyrone and Cavan and Ros had us only for a ridiculous goal which was over carried by twice the steps allowed.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on February 09, 2019, 10:30:49 PM
Just goes to show that Dublin can beat anybody outside of Croke Park. Croke Park gives them no advantage.
Comment on Dublin and no comment on Mayo. Typical, even the proper Mayo lads calling you out as a complete arsehole
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 09, 2019, 10:32:21 PM
The drinks are on. The Ging bar in Carrick tonight for a drink if anyone about. :) :) :) :) :)
Good man - helping the Riscommon economy.
Exciting stuff from Tralee, nearly as good as the Hyde last Sunday.

Sure we gave ye the Smiths. Good Leitrim Gaels men before they went to the dark side.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on February 09, 2019, 10:37:55 PM
Kerry impressive today. Feckers didnt know how to kick the ball wide!
Thought we had them when we got back level at the end. A great 5 minutes for us, but it was a really superbly worked point from Kerry to get the winner. Fento a bit hasty with that last gasp chance, but wouldn't be saying that if it had gone over.

Looking like a Mayo v Kerry final, even if we beat Mayo the next day. Hopefully turn it around, would not like to give up the league title. Although if Mayo beat us, we'll be, bizarrely, in a relegation battle! Although I'm sure we'll come  through it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 09, 2019, 10:41:06 PM
Should that goal had stood? https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1094319531214950401

Of course it should not have stood but what can you do when a ref looks at that and thinks it's ok. You can't make contact with keeper in small box and galligan got barged into the net.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 09, 2019, 11:39:21 PM
The drinks are on. The Ging bar in Carrick tonight for a drink if anyone about. :) :) :) :) :)
Good man - helping the Riscommon economy.
Exciting stuff from Tralee, nearly as good as the Hyde last Sunday.

Sure we gave ye the Smiths. Good Leitrim Gaels men before they went to the dark side.
They were in their arse.
Parents from Boyle, grandparents Corrigeenroe and Tuam.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 09, 2019, 11:45:08 PM
Mike Smith will tell u different . Orinalk6 Leitrim village but not far from football. Should be with Michaels instead of the Townseys. Thankfully young Beirne won't going near ye despite the offer.



Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: RedHand88 on February 09, 2019, 11:50:06 PM
Is it too soon for Dublin to be considered "in a relegation battle"?  ;)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Armagh18 on February 09, 2019, 11:52:30 PM
Amount of steps lads are allowed take is ridiculous
Also, most players fouling the ball when they go to pick it up
Foot must play the ball first but most lads stick their hands onto the ball at same time as the foot arrives

The steps rule needs update, realistically no one takes only four steps and an extra couple doesn’t do any harm as players are moving that quick they’ve taken the ateps in no time. Should increase the number slightly but then enforce it properly to stop the lads taking the piss.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 09, 2019, 11:56:16 PM
Mike Smith will tell u different . Orinalk6 Leitrim village but not far from football. Should be with Michaels instead of the Townseys. Thankfully young Beirne won't going near ye despite the offer.
Would you not be concentrating on Div 4 instead of drinking on the Ros side of the river and interfering in Division 1. >:(
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: David McKeown on February 10, 2019, 12:09:48 AM
Should that goal had stood? https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1094319531214950401

Of course it should not have stood but what can you do when a ref looks at that and thinks it's ok. You can't make contact with keeper in small box and galligan got barged into the net.

I didn’t see anything wrong with it. The protection for keepers in the rule book is simply that they can’t be charged. I know most refs give considerably more protection than that but they are wrong. That goal wasn’t a charge but was two players competiting for the ball. Anywhere else on the pitch it’s not a foul so it wasn’t a foul on the keeper.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 10, 2019, 12:18:36 AM
Mike Smith will tell u different . Orinalk6 Leitrim village but not far from football. Should be with Michaels instead of the Townseys. Thankfully young Beirne won't going near ye despite the offer.
Would you not be concentrating on Div 4 instead of drinking on the Ros side of the river and interfering in Division 1. >:(

Yerra when the rossies are throwing the insults they must be rattled .Sure we be meeting ye on the way down when the money  is gone paying all the imports. Sure the 3 dalys should be be playing with Mohil until family jumped ship. Their uncle George Dugdale was great footballer with Leitrim. Beat ye in 94. You might remind last time ye Galway and Mayo in same year.???o1 doesn't count with the skullduggery wit Ray Connelly
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: joemamas on February 10, 2019, 12:22:49 AM
Mike Smith will tell u different . Orinalk6 Leitrim village but not far from football. Should be with Michaels instead of the Townseys. Thankfully young Beirne won't going near ye despite the offer.
Would you not be concentrating on Div 4 instead of drinking on the Ros side of the river and interfering in Division 1. >:(

Yerra when the rossies are throwing the insults they must be rattled .Sure we be meeting ye on the way down when the money  is gone paying all the important. Sure the 3 days should be be playing with Mohil until family jumped ship. Their uncle George Dugdale was great footballer with Leitrim. Beat ye in 94. You might remind last time ye Galway and Mayo in same year.???o1 doesn't count with the skullduggery wit Ray Connelly

Just go back to  hoganstand with your infantile commentary.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on February 10, 2019, 12:30:14 AM
Just goes to show that Dublin can beat anybody outside of Croke Park. Croke Park gives them no advantage.

Pathetic troll. I guess the charitable reaction to your bile-filled postings has to be sympathy.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 10, 2019, 12:37:38 AM
Just goes to show that Dublin can beat anybody outside of Croke Park. Croke Park gives them no advantage.

Pathetic troll. I guess the charitable reaction to your bile-filled postings has to be sympathy.

Ah, the poor Dub is all upset to get a bite of reality. Did you travel down to Kerry? Or did you realise the Dart, the Luas or Dublin Bus don't go that far!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on February 10, 2019, 12:42:20 AM
Just goes to show that Dublin can beat anybody outside of Croke Park. Croke Park gives them no advantage.

Pathetic troll. I guess the charitable reaction to your bile-filled postings has to be sympathy.

Ah, the poor Dub is all upset to get a bite of reality. Did you travel down to Kerry? Or did you realise the Dart, the Luas or Dublin Bus don't go that far!

As I say - pathetic troll.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 10, 2019, 11:58:59 AM
Should that goal had stood? https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1094319531214950401

I'd have given it as a free out for a blatant foul on the keeper.
Did he not get his fist to ball first before he clattered into the goalie?
He did, the ball was there to be won.

He never touched the ball, i was right in line with it - just collided with the keeper who had is hands on the ball for a split second before being hit. Mayo were the best team and wouldve won anyway but when a ref missed such a blatant foul it is maddening. Always seems to be happening to the underdogs in these games too. Cavans fitness and conditioning is way off for Div1 but I am hoping this year the focus is being put on trying to get optimal fitness for Monaghan in the championship.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 01:47:21 PM
2 changes for Monaghan - Vinny in for McAdam and McManus in for Bannigan
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 02:33:46 PM
Ros are beating Tyrone at the moment

Monaghan are more accurate with their shooting than Galway
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 10, 2019, 02:35:46 PM
An awful lot of players missing yes but I'm not sure I can stick watching much more of a Kevin Walsh, Galway side.

A gale behind them and they don't score until the 20th minute and it's the full back that has to go up to kick it.

That said they've somehow still managed to blow 3 great goal chances.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 02:38:49 PM
Bad aul wind in Inniskeen, Monaghan doing well to go in ahead playing against it. Beggan struggled with his kickouts against it as did the lads shooting for points. Hopefully an improvement with the wind at our backs.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 02:40:48 PM
35 mins Roscommon 0-10 Tyrone 0-03

H/T: Monaghan 0-05 Galway 0-04
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on February 10, 2019, 02:41:16 PM
An awful lot of players missing yes but I'm not sure I can stick watching much more of a Kevin Walsh, Galway side.

A gale behind them and they don't score until the 20th minute and it's the full back that has to go up to kick it.

That said they've somehow still managed to blow 3 great goal chances.

Monaghan missed a sitter too although the keeper did save it. Galway #4 blazed his chance wide. Tough conditions
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 02:41:59 PM
Jaysus lads what's going on with Tyrone
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 02:45:26 PM
Jaysus lads what's going on with Tyrone
Getting to the all Ireland final was a curse
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: oliverkelly on February 10, 2019, 02:49:46 PM
Tyrone will be playing second half with a very strong wind. Far from over yet
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: omagh_gael on February 10, 2019, 02:51:47 PM
Roscommon seem to be getting all their scores from long range with a big wind at their backs. We're also getting cleaned out in midfield with the breeze.

Hopefully we pick it up in second half or we could be condemned to div 2 already!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on February 10, 2019, 02:57:32 PM
An awful lot of players missing yes but I'm not sure I can stick watching much more of a Kevin Walsh, Galway side.

A gale behind them and they don't score until the 20th minute and it's the full back that has to go up to kick it.

That said they've somehow still managed to blow 3 great goal chances.

Could have written this myself. Extremely frustrating to watch. Yet somehow we're level  ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on February 10, 2019, 03:03:53 PM
An awful lot of players missing yes but I'm not sure I can stick watching much more of a Kevin Walsh, Galway side.

A gale behind them and they don't score until the 20th minute and it's the full back that has to go up to kick it.

That said they've somehow still managed to blow 3 great goal chances.

Could have written this myself. Extremely frustrating to watch. Yet somehow we're level  ::)
Monaghan are awful. Actually both sides are  :-\
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2019, 03:11:00 PM
Does that Galway lad know this is on tv? He went down and stayed down like someone shot him! Embarrassing
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 03:11:32 PM
Kelly going off early was a big blow to Monaghan, McAdam has been awful.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 03:14:39 PM
Us and Cyaavan hot favourites for the drop.
With us having a late managerial appointment , trying out new players and sorting out some team organisation and defensive system we're certainties
Dublin v Galway or Tyrone for the final.

Doesn’t look like ye will be yoyoing
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 03:15:43 PM
Kelly going off early was a big blow to Monaghan, McAdam has been awful.

Galway look a bit better in the second half
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 03:17:36 PM
RTÉ :

“ROSCOMMON GOAL

Ultan Harney the scorer after Tyrone keeper Niall Morgan lost possession. A dagger in the Tyrone (heart? )after they started the game well. 1-10 to 0-06 after 44 mins “

Fág an bealach
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 03:19:28 PM
What was the Monaghan defence at there  ::)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2019, 03:20:01 PM
Kelly going off early was a big blow to Monaghan, McAdam has been awful.

Galway look a bit better in the second half

Better? It’s rotten football the whole way through! Thank feck the hurlers from Monaghan put up a better show
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 03:22:22 PM
We've been absolutely septic in the second half. At least in the first half we had the excuse of a bad wind but we've been even worse in the second half. Sloppy in defence, ponderous around the middle third and a strange reluctance to let the ball in to the forwards.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: SouthDublinBro on February 10, 2019, 03:24:45 PM
Monaghan no.11 got away with murder there. He knew what he was doing.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on February 10, 2019, 03:26:51 PM
Monaghan no.11 got away with murder there. He knew what he was doing.

galway #6 looking for an oscar?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: straightred on February 10, 2019, 03:28:46 PM
Monaghan no.11 got away with murder there. He knew what he was doing.
You're some clown. It was a short lineball to him. Is he not allowed to go for the ball ?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 03:32:20 PM
Monaghan no.11 got away with murder there. He knew what he was doing.
You're some clown. It was a short lineball to him. Is he not allowed to go for the ball ?

Ignore him, he only pops up every so often to give out about Monaghan.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 03:33:24 PM
Ros winning by a point 29 mins into 2nd half
Character building
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 03:36:21 PM
f**king hell, we should have gotten something out of that, only ourselves to blame
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 10, 2019, 03:37:45 PM
Tom Flynn was mighty towards the end there. Won two kick outs and a hop ball which Kerin almost immediately gave away to give McManus one last chance to equalise.

Fair play to them. They toughed it out. Not much of a spectacle. We weren't great. Monaghan might have been slightly worse.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 03:39:39 PM
“FT Monaghan 0-11 Galway 1-09

Good win for the Connacht side missing 18 squad players at the moment.”

70+2 Roscommon 1-10 Tyrone 1-10

I
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 03:40:23 PM
Tom Flynn was mighty towards the end there. Won two kick outs and a hop ball which Kerin almost immediately gave away to give McManus one last chance to equalise.

Fair play to them. They toughed it out. Not much of a spectacle. We weren't great. Monaghan might have been slightly worse.
That is a very good win
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: omagh_gael on February 10, 2019, 03:48:52 PM
Niall Morgan with a monster point from play to draw us level. He had an opportunity to go for the winner but laid it off and it was missed. Ros given handy free to win it but ball then thrown up due to a push on Morgan after free was given.

Potentially big point for Tyrone there. Going to be a big scrap between Ros, Mon and Tyr to avoid the drop. Cavan look like goners already.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 03:55:30 PM
Very good Rossie show there


Cunningham got a good start
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: ONeill on February 10, 2019, 03:56:31 PM
Can't believe Roscommon didn't beat a Tyrone side in complete disarray.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: omagh_gael on February 10, 2019, 04:01:20 PM
No joke, Morgan should be playing out the field. He shows more attacking intent than anyone on our team.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Godsown on February 10, 2019, 04:19:42 PM
Can’t wait to see this guy Conor Cox in the flesh. Not only is he really a Kerry man but according to Frankie Dolan on the wireless this afternoon he has 2 great left feet as well!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Duine Eile on February 10, 2019, 04:26:09 PM
Great to get the win, fair play to them, not much was expected from them today. Shocking to watch though, I've often criticised Shane Walsh for not looking interested or not getting stuck in but it must be so frustrating for a player of his talent and flair to have to play in a system like that. The constant short passing and passing backwards is painful. Bradshaw bursts himself so often to get forward, gets a pass and then turns and kicks it backwards, dreadful stuff. Our backs can't defend, constantly fouling. That said Johnny Duane and John Daly did play quite well. Great to see Michael Daly back also. The week off might see some of our injuries clear up hopefully.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 05:04:36 PM
Niall Morgan with a monster point from play to draw us level. He had an opportunity to go for the winner but laid it off and it was missed. Ros given handy free to win it but ball then thrown up due to a push on Morgan after free was given.

Potentially big point for Tyrone there. Going to be a big scrap between Ros, Mon and Tyr to avoid the drop. Cavan look like goners already.

Ros might only need 2 more points to stay up. If they match Tyrone over the next 4 they are ok

Tyrone need to beat 2 from
Monaghan, Cavan, Dublin, Galway

Ros have
Cavan , Dublin, Galway, Kerry

For relegation Tyrone are 13/8
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: omagh_gael on February 10, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Just saw Morgan's equalising point. What an effort. Get him into the HB line!

Shite performance over though, early days yet so hopefully it's a case of not putting a massive effort into the league.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 10, 2019, 05:21:43 PM
f**king hell, we should have gotten something out of that, only ourselves to blame
If we had gotten something out of that game, it would have been an act of thievery.

Tragic mix up to allow the move for their goal.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on February 10, 2019, 05:25:48 PM
Roscommon must be sick with the last free getting overturned. Could prove costly in the end.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Schkite on February 10, 2019, 05:31:44 PM
f**king hell, we should have gotten something out of that, only ourselves to blame
If we had gotten something out of that game, it would have been an act of thievery.

Tragic mix up to allow the move for their goal.

Yep we didn't deserve to get anything out of it based on performance, but we still had the opportunity, as bad as we were.

The goal was absolutely criminal, have no idea what the defence was thinking. We were brutal the whole game, but if we hadn't fell asleep that one time we would have given ourselves a better chance. From beating the Dubs on day one, we're sucked into the relegation battle now, Omagh in 2 weeks is massive.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on February 10, 2019, 05:36:01 PM
Ros winning by a point 29 mins into 2nd half
Character building
You are obsessed with Roscommon for some reason
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 10, 2019, 06:56:26 PM
Roscommon must be sick with the last free getting overturned. Could prove costly in the end.

Only themselves to blame -- criminal indiscipline from Parsons.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 10, 2019, 07:10:59 PM
Table heading into the 2 week break


Mayo    3    3    0    0    15    6

Kerry    3    3    0    0    8    6

Galway    3    2    0    1    -8    4

Roscommon   3    1    1    1    1    3

Dublin    3    1    0    2    7    2

Monaghan    3    1    0    2    0    2

Tyrone    3    0    1    2    -13    1

Cavan    3    0    0    3    -10    0


Some big games in the next round of fixtures

Dublin v Mayo

Tyrone v Monaghan

Galway v Kerry

Cavan v Roscommon
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: lenny on February 10, 2019, 07:11:54 PM
Just saw Morgan's equalising point. What an effort. Get him into the HB line!

Shite performance over though, early days yet so hopefully it's a case of not putting a massive effort into the league.

He should be ashamed of himself for his antics at the end. Deliberately sticks his knee on the back of the Roscommon forwards head and then when he’s pushed in the chest he goes down holding his face as if he’s been hit. Shameful behaviour but I’m sure some of the Tyrone fans on here will stick up for him and won’t see any issues with it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 10, 2019, 07:29:21 PM
Table heading into the 2 week break


Mayo    3    3    0    0    15    6

Kerry    3    3    0    0    8    6

Galway    3    2    0    1    -8    4

Roscommon   3    1    1    1    1    3

Dublin    3    1    0    2    7    2

Monaghan    3    1    0    2    0    2

Tyrone    3    0    1    2    -13    1

Cavan    3    0    0    3    -10    0


Some big games in the next round of fixtures

Dublin v Mayo

Tyrone v Monaghan

Galway v Kerry

Cavan v Roscommon

If Cavan could beat Roscommon and Tyrone beat Monaghan it would really make the bottom interesting!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: twohands!!! on February 10, 2019, 07:42:02 PM
Can’t wait to see this guy Conor Cox in the flesh. Not only is he really a Kerry man but according to Frankie Dolan on the wireless this afternoon he has 2 great left feet as well!

Does this make him a good dancer or a bad dancer?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 10, 2019, 07:50:35 PM
Can't believe Roscommon didn't beat a Tyrone side in complete disarray.
But for Morgan's sly knee and silly reaction by Harney Tyrone would have lost. Roscommon i might add were the ones in disarray. Well beaten in all super 8 matches,manager walked and have lost a number of starters due to travel,retirement and injury.

Result of the day was that away win for Galway, Kevin Walsh has played a blinder to the media about the injury crisis when about 9 of today's team will likely start come championship time and regardless what players Galway are missing they stick to their system which has produced just two league defeats in two years and both of those defeats was against Dublin.


Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on February 10, 2019, 07:51:30 PM
Just saw Morgan's equalising point. What an effort. Get him into the HB line!

Shite performance over though, early days yet so hopefully it's a case of not putting a massive effort into the league.

He should be ashamed of himself for his antics at the end. Deliberately sticks his knee on the back of the Roscommon forwards head and then when he’s pushed in the chest he goes down holding his face as if he’s been hit. Shameful behaviour but I’m sure some of the Tyrone fans on here will stick up for him and won’t see any issues with it.

lenny now thinks we're certs to stay up, sláinte ;)
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 10, 2019, 07:57:34 PM
Just saw Morgan's equalising point. What an effort. Get him into the HB line!

Shite performance over though, early days yet so hopefully it's a case of not putting a massive effort into the league.

He should be ashamed of himself for his antics at the end. Deliberately sticks his knee on the back of the Roscommon forwards head and then when he’s pushed in the chest he goes down holding his face as if he’s been hit. Shameful behaviour but I’m sure some of the Tyrone fans on here will stick up for him and won’t see any issues with it.
That's preposterous,  a utopian request. Feeling shame is not an option. Reaping great reward from face clutching antics is the stuff that merdals of honour are awarded for in Tyrone.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: tonto1888 on February 10, 2019, 08:00:23 PM
Just saw Morgan's equalising point. What an effort. Get him into the HB line!

Shite performance over though, early days yet so hopefully it's a case of not putting a massive effort into the league.

He should be ashamed of himself for his antics at the end. Deliberately sticks his knee on the back of the Roscommon forwards head and then when he’s pushed in the chest he goes down holding his face as if he’s been hit. Shameful behaviour but I’m sure some of the Tyrone fans on here will stick up for him and won’t see any issues with it.
That's preposterous,  a utopian request. Feeling shame is not an option. Reaping great reward from face clutching antics is the stuff that merdals of honour are awarded for in Tyrone.

Not just Tyrone. Clare number 2 was at it last week. Probably see it in a lot of games
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 10, 2019, 08:11:02 PM
Bradshaw did it for galway near end if match today, his was so pathetic it was a full 10 seconds after the "contact"
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 08:22:25 PM
Dubs playing it very cute in the 5 in a row attempt. Lose a few league matches optionally so no need to bother with a league final. Leave a few crumbs for striving Kerry or rebuilding Mayo, god love them. Put the media off the trail in April/May

An easy run through Leinster without breaking sweat and 3 super 8 matches to fine tune the machine
And then see if anyone has closed the gap.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 10, 2019, 08:25:33 PM
Dubs playing it very cute in the 5 in a row attempt. Lose a few league matches optionally so no need to bother with a league final. Leave a few crumbs for striving Kerry or rebuilding Mayo, god love them. Put the media off the trail in April/May

An easy run through Leinster without breaking sweat and 3 super 8 matches to fine tune the machine
And then see if anyone has closed the gap.

+1 plus finding new talent along the way
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mayo.mick on February 10, 2019, 08:35:38 PM

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 10, 2019, 08:38:02 PM
Can't believe Roscommon didn't beat a Tyrone side in complete disarray.
But for Morgan's sly knee and silly reaction by Harney Tyrone would have lost. Roscommon i might add were the ones in disarray. Well beaten in all super 8 matches,manager walked and have lost a number of starters due to travel,retirement and injury.

Result of the day was that away win for Galway, Kevin Walsh has played a blinder to the media about the injury crisis when about 9 of today's team will likely start come championship time and regardless what players Galway are missing they stick to their system which has produced just two league defeats in two years and both of those defeats was against Dublin.

I think it'll be more like 6 or 7 will be starting but it's hard to tell this far out with form and injury playing a large part. Lavelle, Kerin, Bradshaw (might hang in there for another year), Heaney, Flynn, Walsh. Maybe Kelly. Maybe Cooke. But they could as easily be on the bench.

I don't think Duggan will be starting. Or O'Donnell. If everyone was available. On the plus side the Daly's made a surprise come back today having not even played for NUIG for a month.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 10, 2019, 08:47:09 PM
Can't believe Roscommon didn't beat a Tyrone side in complete disarray.
But for Morgan's sly knee and silly reaction by Harney Tyrone would have lost. Roscommon i might add were the ones in disarray. Well beaten in all super 8 matches,manager walked and have lost a number of starters due to travel,retirement and injury.

Result of the day was that away win for Galway, Kevin Walsh has played a blinder to the media about the injury crisis when about 9 of today's team will likely start come championship time and regardless what players Galway are missing they stick to their system which has produced just two league defeats in two years and both of those defeats was against Dublin.

I think it'll be more like 6 or 7 will be starting but it's hard to tell this far out with form and injury playing a large part. Lavelle, Kerin, Bradshaw (might hang in there for another year), Heaney, Flynn, Walsh. Maybe Kelly. Maybe Cooke. But they could as easily be on the bench.

I don't think Duggan will be starting. Or O'Donnell. If everyone was available. On the plus side the Daly's made a surprise come back today having not even played for NUIG for a month.

Walsh is full of surprises, keeps all guessing including his own supporters.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 10, 2019, 09:40:41 PM
Well that was a bolx at the end today as the blind Ulster officials combined to ensure dirt by Morgan went unpunished while a naive reaction by our man resulted in the free being overturned.
Anyway such is GAAlife.
A heroic battling backs to the wall performance by our lads in the 2nd half and did well to prevent Tyrone going on to win it.
Great block by young Lyons to save the day.
Some excellent points by us in our purple patch before half time.

At least we didn't concede 4-24,.
If someone told me before Christmas that we'd be disappointed to draw with Tyrone, would beat Monaghan and coulda mighta have drawn with Mayowestros , would concede 2-31 in 3 games and would have an organised defensive structure.....I'd have said give me some of your tablets.

Shows what happens when you have a Manager.
2 months of Cunningham - 3 years his predecessor.
Compare and contrast.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Tubberman on February 10, 2019, 09:44:20 PM
where's the heretofore ubiquitous Rossie?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on February 10, 2019, 09:45:50 PM
Well that was a bolx at the end today as the blind Ulster officials combined to ensure dirt by Morgan went unpunished while a naive reaction by our man resulted in the free being overturned.
Anyway such is GAAlife.
A heroic battling backs to the wall performance by our lads in the 2nd half and did well to prevent Tyrone going on to win it.
Great block by young Lyons to save the day.
Some excellent points by us in our purple patch before half time.

At least we didn't concede 4-24,.
If someone told me before Christmas that we'd be disappointed to draw with Tyrone, would beat Monaghan and coulda mighta have drawn with Mayowestros , would concede 2-31 in 3 games and would have an organised defensive structure.....I'd have said give me some of your tablets.

Shows what happens when you have a Manager.
2 months of Cunningham - 3 years his predecessor.
Compare and contrast.

we got to a d1 semi with the predecesor. hopefully ac can do similar.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 10, 2019, 09:56:10 PM
Can't believe Roscommon didn't beat a Tyrone side in complete disarray.
But for Morgan's sly knee and silly reaction by Harney Tyrone would have lost. Roscommon i might add were the ones in disarray. Well beaten in all super 8 matches,manager walked and have lost a number of starters due to travel,retirement and injury.

Result of the day was that away win for Galway, Kevin Walsh has played a blinder to the media about the injury crisis when about 9 of today's team will likely start come championship time and regardless what players Galway are missing they stick to their system which has produced just two league defeats in two years and both of those defeats was against Dublin.

I think it'll be more like 6 or 7 will be starting but it's hard to tell this far out with form and injury playing a large part. Lavelle, Kerin, Bradshaw (might hang in there for another year), Heaney, Flynn, Walsh. Maybe Kelly. Maybe Cooke. But they could as easily be on the bench.

I don't think Duggan will be starting. Or O'Donnell. If everyone was available. On the plus side the Daly's made a surprise come back today having not even played for NUIG for a month.

Walsh is full of surprises, keeps all guessing including his own supporters.
I thought the media favouring Monaghan was a bit off . Losing to the Dubs was no shame
Galway aren’t too shabby and have good forwards.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 10, 2019, 09:59:45 PM
Was it just me or did the Galway sub pick the ball clean off the ground for the goal?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 10, 2019, 10:19:17 PM
Well that was a bolx at the end today as the blind Ulster officials combined to ensure dirt by Morgan went unpunished while a naive reaction by our man resulted in the free being overturned.
Anyway such is GAAlife.
A heroic battling backs to the wall performance by our lads in the 2nd half and did well to prevent Tyrone going on to win it.
Great block by young Lyons to save the day.
Some excellent points by us in our purple patch before half time.

At least we didn't concede 4-24,.
If someone told me before Christmas that we'd be disappointed to draw with Tyrone, would beat Monaghan and coulda mighta have drawn with Mayowestros , would concede 2-31 in 3 games and would have an organised defensive structure.....I'd have said give me some of your tablets.

Shows what happens when you have a Manager.
2 months of Cunningham - 3 years his predecessor.
Compare and contrast.

we got to a d1 semi with the predecesor. hopefully ac can do similar.

No semi finals now and wasn't that the work of a joint management team? i think Roscommon staying up this year will be a bigger achievement than 2016 when you consider the amount of last years panel no longer there or injured. Could have done with the two points today i feel though and won't get many better chances to beat Tyrone.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 10, 2019, 10:54:46 PM
Was it just me or did the Galway sub pick the ball clean off the ground for the goal?
It's going on in every game
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: cornetto on February 11, 2019, 08:13:04 AM
League results are so hard to forecast,it is impossible to gauge a teams true worth.All teams are at different stages of training,I for one was not expecting a result against Monaghan who had beaten the dubs who thrashed galway.the rossi's on the other hand go out and beat Monaghan and were dissapointed with a draw against Tyrone.The dubs are hurting,they will probably still go on to contest the final with kerry or mayo.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 08:19:00 AM
League results are so hard to forecast,it is impossible to gauge a teams true worth.All teams are at different stages of training,I for one was not expecting a result against Monaghan who had beaten the dubs who thrashed galway.the rossi's on the other hand go out and beat Monaghan and were dissapointed with a draw against Tyrone.The dubs are hurting,they will probably still go on to contest the final with kerry or mayo.

The Dubs don't seem to be interested in the League so I don't think they are hurting
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 08:42:30 AM
f**king hell, we should have gotten something out of that, only ourselves to blame
If we had gotten something out of that game, it would have been an act of thievery.

Tragic mix up to allow the move for their goal.

Yep we didn't deserve to get anything out of it based on performance, but we still had the opportunity, as bad as we were.

The goal was absolutely criminal, have no idea what the defence was thinking. We were brutal the whole game, but if we hadn't fell asleep that one time we would have given ourselves a better chance. From beating the Dubs on day one, we're sucked into the relegation battle now, Omagh in 2 weeks is massive.
It's a huge match
It would be a pity to beat the Dubs on the first day out and then get relegated
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on February 11, 2019, 08:57:02 AM
where's the heretofore ubiquitous Rossie?
Careful what you wish for Tubber.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on February 11, 2019, 09:28:29 AM
Table heading into the 2 week break


Mayo    3    3    0    0    15    6

Kerry    3    3    0    0    8    6

Galway    3    2    0    1    -8    4

Roscommon   3    1    1    1    1    3

Dublin    3    1    0    2    7    2

Monaghan    3    1    0    2    0    2

Tyrone    3    0    1    2    -13    1

Cavan    3    0    0    3    -10    0


Some big games in the next round of fixtures

Dublin v Mayo

Tyrone v Monaghan

Galway v Kerry

Cavan v Roscommon

If Cavan could beat Roscommon and Tyrone beat Monaghan it would really make the bottom interesting!
Then if Mayo beat the Dubs, we'd be joint bottom! Epic relegation battle coming up  :D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on February 11, 2019, 09:43:11 AM
Dubs playing it very cute in the 5 in a row attempt. Lose a few league matches optionally so no need to bother with a league final. Leave a few crumbs for striving Kerry or rebuilding Mayo, god love them. Put the media off the trail in April/May

An easy run through Leinster without breaking sweat and 3 super 8 matches to fine tune the machine
And then see if anyone has closed the gap.
It's nonsense to say we're not trying in the league.

We're without Cluxton and Kilkenny and they are two key players (although Clifford just as important for Kerry, they were missing Moran for most of the game too, and JOD could even struggle to get back into the team!)

But every Dub there was doing his absolute best as they know it's key to retaining their place come championship. It's nonsense to say we're less interested in the league than previous years just because we're going for the 5 in a row.

We beat Galway comfortably (they play too defensive to cause up trouble) and it took really good performances from Kerry and Monaghan to beat us.
There was been some commentary that we lost to Kerry because they are ahead of us in fitness. I don't know enough to say whether that's true or not, but in the last 10 minutes with us down to 14, we were the ones that finished the strongest.

Kerry did look stronger and more athletic than in previous years. Their style reminded me of Mayo. Their defence looked much improved, and their scoretaking was a bit scary! As usual, Dubs look shaky defending a high ball. Dublin's star forwards Mannion, Con and Costello all had flashes of brilliance, but were inconsistent.

Looking forward to Mayo now, and seeing what they're like this year in the flesh. If we beat them, and Kerry beat them, then we should be able to make it to a league final and give Kerry another go. But if Mayo beat us, then we are literally in a relegation battle! Although hard to see Cavan or Tyrone taking points off us.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 11, 2019, 09:51:52 AM
Dubs playing it very cute in the 5 in a row attempt. Lose a few league matches optionally so no need to bother with a league final. Leave a few crumbs for striving Kerry or rebuilding Mayo, god love them. Put the media off the trail in April/May

An easy run through Leinster without breaking sweat and 3 super 8 matches to fine tune the machine
And then see if anyone has closed the gap.
It's nonsense to say we're not trying in the league.

We're without Cluxton and Kilkenny and they are two key players (although Clifford just as important for Kerry, they were missing Moran for most of the game too, and JOD could even struggle to get back into the team!)

But every Dub there was doing his absolute best as they know it's key to retaining their place come championship. It's nonsense to say we're less interested in the league than previous years just because we're going for the 5 in a row.

We beat Galway comfortably (they play too defensive to cause up trouble) and it took really good performances from Kerry and Monaghan to beat us.
There was been some commentary that we lost to Kerry because they are ahead of us in fitness. I don't know enough to say whether that's true or not, but in the last 10 minutes with us down to 14, we were the ones that finished the strongest.

Kerry did look stronger and more athletic than in previous years. Their style reminded me of Mayo. Their defence looked much improved, and their scoretaking was a bit scary! As usual, Dubs look shaky defending a high ball. Dublin's star forwards Mannion, Con and Costello all had flashes of brilliance, but were inconsistent.

Looking forward to Mayo now, and seeing what they're like this year in the flesh. If we beat them, and Kerry beat them, then we should be able to make it to a league final and give Kerry another go. But if Mayo beat us, then we are literally in a relegation battle! Although hard to see Cavan or Tyrone taking points off us.
so you're writing off the the trip to the Hyde already?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 11, 2019, 09:55:40 AM
League results are so hard to forecast,it is impossible to gauge a teams true worth.All teams are at different stages of training,I for one was not expecting a result against Monaghan who had beaten the dubs who thrashed galway.the rossi's on the other hand go out and beat Monaghan and were dissapointed with a draw against Tyrone.The dubs are hurting,they will probably still go on to contest the final with kerry or mayo.

It's a big if but, if Mayo beat Dublin in a two weeks time the Dubs won't be contesting another league final, Mayo will have 8 points and the head to head. Kerry already have the head to head over them.

With respect to Galway, not a huge lot to say about the match in Inniskeen yesterday apart from the fact that it's a massive win in the context of staying up in Division One, even just picking up another win should be enough to stay up given that Tyrone, Cavan and Monaghan all have to play each other still plus Cavan and Tyrone have yet to play Dublin who will be improving their performance a bit as the league goes on.

First twenty minutes it was as bad a Galway start to a match as I can remember, loose on the Monaghan players despite flooding the defence, lazy tackling technique giving handy frees away, poor usage of the wind (although Monaghan suffered from the same affliction in the second period), bad shot selection/execution (the missed goal chances were horror shows), hard to pick out anything positive. Got going a bit towards the end of the half with Shane Walsh becoming influential but to be honest I thought I'd be able to leave early in the second half as I couldn't see anything but a Monaghan win with the advantage of the elements to come.
Credit to Galway in that they upped it significantly in the second half but really it was a tough ground out win, the goal was obviously the crucial score in the match. Tom Flynn was immense down the stretch and played well in general, Duane and Sean Kelly (unreal engine on the lad) had effective games, Walsh was obviously a cut above the other players when he got going. Cunningham gets himself into great positions but he isn't there yet by any means with his overall finishing, could (probably should to be honest) have scored a goal in every league game so far, in mitigation he was clearly fouled in the first half yesterday when going through on goal but still.

A lot of criticism being heaped on Galway, some justified, but entertainment value is certainly not a metric that would bother me in early February. There is plenty of work to be done but (with all due respect to Sligo and London we are at nothing if we can't win those two championship matches) this year it's all about retaining Division One status while getting the squad and team primed for the 16th of June and hopefully deep into July and August.
For all the hyperbole about the match Saturday night, and it was a great game to watch, it's just a Round 3 match in February, I don't buy the "laying down a marker for the year" narrative for a second, Kerry have done that a few times in recent league campaigns against Dublin only to be well short come the summer. The way Galway are playing right now won't beat Dublin and KW will have to come up with something at least a bit different or it'll be groundhog day if we can get far enough to play Dublin again but rehearsed lines about "football purgatory" or lamenting Galway a la Eamonn Sweeney this morning at this time of year is daft.

It would be remiss not to comment on the super facilities that are in place in Inniskeen, especially for what seems a small enough club, it's a credit to the locals. No hassle to get in/out of and the pitch was in immaculate condition for this time of year as well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 10:21:10 AM
League results are so hard to forecast,it is impossible to gauge a teams true worth.All teams are at different stages of training,I for one was not expecting a result against Monaghan who had beaten the dubs who thrashed galway.the rossi's on the other hand go out and beat Monaghan and were dissapointed with a draw against Tyrone.The dubs are hurting,they will probably still go on to contest the final with kerry or mayo.

It's a big if but, if Mayo beat Dublin in a two weeks time the Dubs won't be contesting another league final, Mayo will have 8 points and the head to head. Kerry already have the head to head over them.

With respect to Galway, not a huge lot to say about the match in Inniskeen yesterday apart from the fact that it's a massive win in the context of staying up in Division One, even just picking up another win should be enough to stay up given that Tyrone, Cavan and Monaghan all have to play each other still plus Cavan and Tyrone have yet to play Dublin who will be improving their performance a bit as the league goes on.

First twenty minutes it was as bad a Galway start to a match as I can remember, loose on the Monaghan players despite flooding the defence, lazy tackling technique giving handy frees away, poor usage of the wind (although Monaghan suffered from the same affliction in the second period), bad shot selection/execution (the missed goal chances were horror shows), hard to pick out anything positive. Got going a bit towards the end of the half with Shane Walsh becoming influential but to be honest I thought I'd be able to leave early in the second half as I couldn't see anything but a Monaghan win with the advantage of the elements to come.
Credit to Galway in that they upped it significantly in the second half but really it was a tough ground out win, the goal was obviously the crucial score in the match. Tom Flynn was immense down the stretch and played well in general, Duane and Sean Kelly (unreal engine on the lad) had effective games, Walsh was obviously a cut above the other players when he got going. Cunningham gets himself into great positions but he isn't there yet by any means with his overall finishing, could (probably should to be honest) have scored a goal in every league game so far, in mitigation he was clearly fouled in the first half yesterday when going through on goal but still.

A lot of criticism being heaped on Galway, some justified, but entertainment value is certainly not a metric that would bother me in early February. There is plenty of work to be done but (with all due respect to Sligo and London we are at nothing if we can't win those two championship matches) this year it's all about retaining Division One status while getting the squad and team primed for the 16th of June and hopefully deep into July and August.
For all the hyperbole about the match Saturday night, and it was a great game to watch, it's just a Round 3 match in February, I don't buy the "laying down a marker for the year" narrative for a second, Kerry have done that a few times in recent league campaigns against Dublin only to be well short come the summer. The way Galway are playing right now won't beat Dublin and KW will have to come up with something at least a bit different or it'll be groundhog day if we can get far enough to play Dublin again but rehearsed lines about "football purgatory" or lamenting Galway a la Eamonn Sweeney this morning at this time of year is daft.

It would be remiss not to comment on the super facilities that are in place in Inniskeen, especially for what seems a small enough club, it's a credit to the locals. No hassle to get in/out of and the pitch was in immaculate condition for this time of year as well.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/both-teams-play-better-into-the-wind-as-galway-beat-monaghan-1.3788828

Walsh, pleased to have got the trauma of the previous week’s cuffing in Croke Park out of their system, was frank when asked afterwards about the concept of a team’s duty to entertain.
“With the amount of work that goes into this now, people are pushing the rules to the limits to the areas where you can take it to - I’m not talking about physicality here, I’m talking about the rules. That’s life, if the opinion is that you just want to entertain then that’s fine too but you have to try and get results.”
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 10:32:49 AM
Dubs playing it very cute in the 5 in a row attempt. Lose a few league matches optionally so no need to bother with a league final. Leave a few crumbs for striving Kerry or rebuilding Mayo, god love them. Put the media off the trail in April/May

An easy run through Leinster without breaking sweat and 3 super 8 matches to fine tune the machine
And then see if anyone has closed the gap.
It's nonsense to say we're not trying in the league.

We're without Cluxton and Kilkenny and they are two key players (although Clifford just as important for Kerry, they were missing Moran for most of the game too, and JOD could even struggle to get back into the team!)

But every Dub there was doing his absolute best as they know it's key to retaining their place come championship. It's nonsense to say we're less interested in the league than previous years just because we're going for the 5 in a row.

We beat Galway comfortably (they play too defensive to cause up trouble) and it took really good performances from Kerry and Monaghan to beat us.
There was been some commentary that we lost to Kerry because they are ahead of us in fitness. I don't know enough to say whether that's true or not, but in the last 10 minutes with us down to 14, we were the ones that finished the strongest.

Kerry did look stronger and more athletic than in previous years. Their style reminded me of Mayo. Their defence looked much improved, and their scoretaking was a bit scary! As usual, Dubs look shaky defending a high ball. Dublin's star forwards Mannion, Con and Costello all had flashes of brilliance, but were inconsistent.

Looking forward to Mayo now, and seeing what they're like this year in the flesh. If we beat them, and Kerry beat them, then we should be able to make it to a league final and give Kerry another go. But if Mayo beat us, then we are literally in a relegation battle! Although hard to see Cavan or Tyrone taking points off us.

Plamas

The Dubs don't care about this league. 2 losses out of 3 says it all.
The relentless focus is on the 5 in a row

All the muppets who backed the machine at 4/7 in early January will get hosed.   
Tyrone have also been undercooked 

D1 Odds via Oddschecker
19.1

Dubs           4/7
Kerry          7/1
Tyrone        8/1
Mayo       10/1
Galway        12/1
Monaghan    16/1
Ros             50/1
Cavan          100/1

10/2

Kerry 7/4
Dubs 9/4
Mayo 11/4
Galway 8/1
Monaghan 40/1
Tyrone 50/1
Ros     66/1
Cavan 500/1
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on February 11, 2019, 11:28:40 AM
Good man seafoid. Clueless as always.
Dubs don't want a distraction of a league final so deliberately lost to Kerry. Threw Flynn and Macauley on to make sure we wouldnt come back. Accidentally clawed it back to level, but gave them a handy point to win it, and Fento blazed the last one wide rather than try to work it into an easier position, just to make sure Kerry took all 2 points.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 11, 2019, 11:49:28 AM
Most probably (with any degree of certainity) only the addition of Cluxton to the line up would have swung that game Dublin's way. Though Dublin did finish strong, Kerry held them up and had something extra left in the tank in the final minutes.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 11:54:30 AM
Good man seafoid. Clueless as always.
Dubs don't want a distraction of a league final so deliberately lost to Kerry. Threw Flynn and Macauley on to make sure we wouldnt come back. Accidentally clawed it back to level, but gave them a handy point to win it, and Fento blazed the last one wide rather than try to work it into an easier position, just to make sure Kerry took all 2 points.

The Dubs are at least 5 or 6 points better than Kerry when they can be arsed, Hound
They don't care  about the league.
Flynn and Macauley get a bit of game time but the result is irrelevant. 

All Ireland Senior  Football Championship

Dublin 8/13
Kerry 6/1

Fento blazing one wide wouldn't account for the gap , would it  ?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 01:53:37 PM
Mayo are 7/2 v the Dubs the next day
Nice price if the Dubs don't turn up again
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 11, 2019, 02:03:29 PM
Dubs are back at their home ground again - SORRY not their home ground. Their rented home, that's located in the same county and within view of their home ground.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 11, 2019, 02:08:29 PM
Do the Dubs have to pay rent to use CP?

Somehow I imagine there's a virtual red carpet laid from their training ground to CP.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 11, 2019, 02:32:49 PM
Mayo are 7/2 v the Dubs the next day
Nice price if the Dubs don't turn up again

A very nice price. Apart from Dublin no other side has performed consistently well in Croke park like Mayo have over the last number of years. Horan will likely pick his strongest and most experienced team for this game as he will know a win will likely stop Dublin from reaching the final which would give Mayo a much better chance to win a first national title for 18 years.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 11, 2019, 02:47:18 PM
Mayo are 7/2 v the Dubs the next day
Nice price if the Dubs don't turn up again

A very nice price. Apart from Dublin no other side has performed consistently well in Croke park like Mayo have over the last number of years. Horan will likely pick his strongest and most experienced team for this game as he will know a win will likely stop Dublin from reaching the final which would give Mayo a much better chance to win a first national title for 18 years.

Mayo have not beaten Dublin in League and Championship since 2012. That's nearly 7 years.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 11, 2019, 02:53:39 PM
Mayo are 7/2 v the Dubs the next day
Nice price if the Dubs don't turn up again

A very nice price. Apart from Dublin no other side has performed consistently well in Croke park like Mayo have over the last number of years. Horan will likely pick his strongest and most experienced team for this game as he will know a win will likely stop Dublin from reaching the final which would give Mayo a much better chance to win a first national title for 18 years.

Mayo have not beaten Dublin in League and Championship since 2012. That's nearly 7 years.
It depends which Dubs turn up really, doesn't it? It may be the non contact Dubs where Fento misses in the last minute

3 Connacht teams in the top 4 and the bottom 3 are the 3 Ulster teams
#Jaysus
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 11, 2019, 02:59:03 PM
Mayo are 7/2 v the Dubs the next day
Nice price if the Dubs don't turn up again

A very nice price. Apart from Dublin no other side has performed consistently well in Croke park like Mayo have over the last number of years. Horan will likely pick his strongest and most experienced team for this game as he will know a win will likely stop Dublin from reaching the final which would give Mayo a much better chance to win a first national title for 18 years.

Mayo have not beaten Dublin in League and Championship since 2012. That's nearly 7 years.

Would that be case if James Horan had remained manager all this time? Horan has beaten Dublin in both league and championship.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on February 11, 2019, 08:23:49 PM
Yes that would be the case , Dublin were that little bit better than us , possibly had them in 16 if bastick had of been pulled for the clear off the ground pick up with the hands , it was a free in to win the all Ireland ,cillian had just scored a screamer to level it from about 40yrds out , absolute shoe in to score from a 21 free.  Anyway them days are past now . So I don't believe Horan would of made any difference ,to answer your question.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 11, 2019, 09:08:30 PM
Yes that would be the case , Dublin were that little bit better than us , possibly had them in 16 if bastick had of been pulled for the clear off the ground pick up with the hands , it was a free in to win the all Ireland ,cillian had just scored a screamer to level it from about 40yrds out , absolute shoe in to score from a 21 free.  Anyway them days are past now . So I don't believe Horan would of made any difference ,to answer your question.

You'll never get those tight calls in an away fixture.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Lar Naparka on February 11, 2019, 09:18:20 PM
Mayo are 7/2 v the Dubs the next day
Nice price if the Dubs don't turn up again

A very nice price. Apart from Dublin no other side has performed consistently well in Croke park like Mayo have over the last number of years. Horan will likely pick his strongest and most experienced team for this game as he will know a win will likely stop Dublin from reaching the final which would give Mayo a much better chance to win a first national title for 18 years.

Mayo have not beaten Dublin in League and Championship since 2012. That's nearly 7 years.

Would that be case if James Horan had remained manager all this time? Horan has beaten Dublin in both league and championship.
Ah, if only me auntie... ;D ;D
We will never know. It could help to pass a few cold winter nights in front of a blazing fire and sitting on a high stoll with a pint in yer hand and a few earlier ones settling down nicely but other than that, it's of no relevance now.
But if I was sitting on the stool beside you, I'd be inclined to bet that Horan wouldn't have won an AI in his first term.
Maybe he is older and wiser now. Hope so anyway.
He proved to be awfully slow to make running changes in the course of games and by all accounts was one obstinate hoor to deal with- my way o the high way- ask James Nallen or Kieran Shannon about that.
For my money, there was sweet FA between the Dublin and Mayo in recent games and all could have gone the other way. But, it wasn't just a case of Dublin having the rub of the green every time either. If they had lost any of those games, their fans would be bitching about borderline decisions or blind bleedin' refs or whatever.
For me, the  essential little nudge Dublin got to take the over the line each time came from the bench.
They had and will have an inexhaustible supply of talented young players coming through all the time.
For Horan, it was a case of all fur coat and no knickers every year. He had a super first fifteen but the backup talent needed to win just wasn't there.
This year is starting to look good and I'm beginning to hope again- maybe not this year but next one might be interesting.
 I mean there are a lot of young players about now that look as if they could be useful to downright brilliant in the not-too-distant future.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 11, 2019, 10:04:09 PM
Mayo are 7/2 v the Dubs the next day
Nice price if the Dubs don't turn up again

A very nice price. Apart from Dublin no other side has performed consistently well in Croke park like Mayo have over the last number of years. Horan will likely pick his strongest and most experienced team for this game as he will know a win will likely stop Dublin from reaching the final which would give Mayo a much better chance to win a first national title for 18 years.

Mayo have not beaten Dublin in League and Championship since 2012. That's nearly 7 years.

Would that be case if James Horan had remained manager all this time? Horan has beaten Dublin in both league and championship.
Ah, if only me auntie... ;D ;D
We will never know. It could help to pass a few cold winter nights in front of a blazing fire and sitting on a high stoll with a pint in yer hand and a few earlier ones settling down nicely but other than that, it's of no relevance now.
But if I was sitting on the stool beside you, I'd be inclined to bet that Horan wouldn't have won an AI in his first term.
Maybe he is older and wiser now. Hope so anyway.
He proved to be awfully slow to make running changes in the course of games and by all accounts was one obstinate hoor to deal with- my way o the high way- ask James Nallen or Kieran Shannon about that.
For my money, there was sweet FA between the Dublin and Mayo in recent games and all could have gone the other way. But, it wasn't just a case of Dublin having the rub of the green every time either. If they had lost any of those games, their fans would be bitching about borderline decisions or blind bleedin' refs or whatever.
For me, the  essential little nudge Dublin got to take the over the line each time came from the bench.
They had and will have an inexhaustible supply of talented young players coming through all the time.
For Horan, it was a case of all fur coat and no knickers every year. He had a super first fifteen but the backup talent needed to win just wasn't there.
This year is starting to look good and I'm beginning to hope again- maybe not this year but next one might be interesting.
 I mean there are a lot of young players about now that look as if they could be useful to downright brilliant in the not-too-distant future.

May have my blinkers on, but I cannot think of any Referee decision or piece of good fortune that fell to Mayo in any of the Dublin/Mayo Championship games since 2012! Cannot think of any rub of the green.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 11, 2019, 10:16:58 PM
Maybe New Roscommon will put ye out of ye're misery at th'end o' May😀
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on February 11, 2019, 10:28:30 PM
Maybe New Roscommon will put ye out of ye're misery at th'end o' May😀

"New Roscommon"? Is that to account for the diaspora that's now in ye're ranks?  ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: giveballaghback on February 11, 2019, 10:58:55 PM
Maybe New Roscommon will put ye out of ye're misery at th'end o' May😀

"New Roscommon"? Is that to account for the diaspora that's now in ye're ranks?  ;D
Is that the diaspora as Tom Parsons {Sligo} and Andy Moran {Roscommon}
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on February 11, 2019, 11:02:16 PM
Mayo are 7/2 v the Dubs the next day
Nice price if the Dubs don't turn up again

A very nice price. Apart from Dublin no other side has performed consistently well in Croke park like Mayo have over the last number of years. Horan will likely pick his strongest and most experienced team for this game as he will know a win will likely stop Dublin from reaching the final which would give Mayo a much better chance to win a first national title for 18 years.

I just can't imagine James Horan is even remotely interested in winning the league.
Equally there is no strongest team in reserve for a special gig v the Dubs. I expect another bit of development in this game and see how it goes. In his first term, league games V Dublin, Horan played it fast and loose and so did the Dubs. They don't anymore and teams can t get a run on them anymore either. They are more interested in controlling games these days than killing teams. They are in transition as well (a winning transition!) and would be no shock if Mayo beat them.
The thing is, it doesn't matter how it pans out. Dublin probably have greater need for points and that should do it. Doesn't matter though. A good football game would be the best outcome.

On a completely unrelated topic, it is surprising really it has taken this long to discover - I'm talking RTE here really - what a great product a Saturday night game in a provincial ground is.
 ,
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 11, 2019, 11:08:43 PM
A Moysider, they got lucky, if Monaghan v Galway had been Saturday nite we’d be wondering what they were at. There’s a case to never show another Galway match ever though, even as highlights. But Kerry v Cavan the previous week was poor too. It’s hit and miss with the league. 


As an occasion for supporters it’s one of my favourites, the Down Mayo game a few years ago in Castlebar that ended in a draw and the Armagh match above there where O’Shea flittered their midfielder with a shoulder being two highlights
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: blast05 on February 11, 2019, 11:27:13 PM
Mayo are 7/2 v the Dubs the next day
Nice price if the Dubs don't turn up again

A very nice price. Apart from Dublin no other side has performed consistently well in Croke park like Mayo have over the last number of years. Horan will likely pick his strongest and most experienced team for this game as he will know a win will likely stop Dublin from reaching the final which would give Mayo a much better chance to win a first national title for 18 years.

I just can't imagine James Horan is even remotely interested in winning the league.
Equally there is no strongest team in reserve for a special gig v the Dubs. I expect another bit of development in this game and see how it goes. In his first term, league games V Dublin, Horan played it fast and loose and so did the Dubs.
 ,

True.
But i'm giddy with excitement at the prospect of Ryan O'Donoghue eventually being given a game and ripping up defences with his pace !!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 11, 2019, 11:32:59 PM
Maybe New Roscommon will put ye out of ye're misery at th'end o' May😀

"New Roscommon"?
A team with a defence, steel and a Manager.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: highorlow on February 11, 2019, 11:42:52 PM
What’s the expected attendance for Dublin v Mayo? 30k plus?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on February 11, 2019, 11:51:08 PM
A Moysider, they got lucky, if Monaghan v Galway had been Saturday nite we’d be wondering what they were at. There’s a case to never show another Galway match ever though, even as highlights. But Kerry v Cavan the previous week was poor too. It’s hit and miss with the league. 


As an occasion for supporters it’s one of my favourites, the Down Mayo game a few years ago in Castlebar that ended in a draw and the Armagh match above there where O’Shea flittered their midfielder with a shoulder being two highlights

I take the point about being lucky for sure. But it has huge potential to grow the game as well. Dublin v Mayo could be a spectacle but will be swamped in a big ground.
As for Galway v Monaghan and others? Sooner rather than later the penny has to drop that there is an entertainment requirement that has to be addressed. Likes of Galway messing about playing anti-football is pathetic - no easy way to put it.
On the other hand likes of Cork getting beaten by Clare every other week is very satisfying!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on February 11, 2019, 11:53:21 PM
Mayo are 7/2 v the Dubs the next day
Nice price if the Dubs don't turn up again

A very nice price. Apart from Dublin no other side has performed consistently well in Croke park like Mayo have over the last number of years. Horan will likely pick his strongest and most experienced team for this game as he will know a win will likely stop Dublin from reaching the final which would give Mayo a much better chance to win a first national title for 18 years.

I just can't imagine James Horan is even remotely interested in winning the league.
Equally there is no strongest team in reserve for a special gig v the Dubs. I expect another bit of development in this game and see how it goes. In his first term, league games V Dublin, Horan played it fast and loose and so did the Dubs.
 ,

True.
But i'm giddy with excitement at the prospect of Ryan O'Donoghue eventually being given a game and ripping up defences with his pace !!

Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on February 12, 2019, 12:02:30 AM
What’s the expected attendance for Dublin v Mayo? 30k plus?

You serious?! Why that many?
Castlebar would get 15-18 maybe ..... maybe?
How would there be 30+ in Dublin?
I think there should be though!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: highorlow on February 12, 2019, 12:19:07 AM
I’d expect the Dublin supporters to show up in force for this one. 7k in Tralee must equate to 20 or more at home.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on February 12, 2019, 12:50:13 AM
I’d expect the Dublin supporters to show up in force for this one. 7k in Tralee must equate to 20 or more at home.

In fairness to the true Dubs, they love the away games and the core have always travelled.
Hope you are right about this one though. I think it could be a great Saturday night league game.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 12, 2019, 08:19:25 AM
Maybe New Roscommon will put ye out of ye're misery at th'end o' May😀

"New Roscommon"?
A team with a defence, steel and a Manager.
Lookit

I remember 2012 and the Leinster Final. Cunningham's first year
They did a cull of the non performers the previous autumn and built up from scratch with an u21 team that wasn't used to losing

www.youtu.be/rb52kJeCzoA

It was wonderful after 20 plus years largely of shite and inconsistency
They could have won the all Ireland that year but didn't have the cuteness and KK were very strong
The work they started eventually led to the all Ireland in 2017 

It is good to see the neighbours doing well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 12, 2019, 09:47:15 AM
Thanks Seafóidín.
We've improved by 3-14 against Tyrone anyways.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyHarp on February 12, 2019, 11:08:18 AM
Thanks Seafóidín.
We've improved by 3-14 against Tyrone anyways.

Maybe we've got worse by 3-14?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 12, 2019, 11:57:40 AM
What did the Galway posters make of Antaine O'Laoi? I thought he played well, certainly is too light but certainly has the pace and skillset to trouble a good defender. Cunnigham is very frustrating but its too be expected given he's played very little football for 5 years; No problem in winning the ball but its hard to know whats going to happen when he gets it, scored a good point against the wind with his weaker foot and should have scored a goal but lacked composure. Just think its might be another year to two before we see the best of him.

John Daly looks the part although he's got work to do on his strength but thats to be expected given he's still u21. Wynne is mobile enough but is just not a good enough defender of good enough on the ball to be playing. O'Donnell looks like he's coming to the end, pace wise he's never been quick but looks to have slowed down from last year; Duane isn't that quick either but has overtaken O'Donnell if it was up to me. Cooke looked shattered after 5 minutes, thankfully he has no game mid week.

Delighted to get the result, really didn't see it coming with all the lads missing. Galway certainly hit more than any other team in div 1 with injuries and then there's the Corofin lads missing too.

Galway excellent against the wind but woeful with it, thats got to change. That first 15 minutes was dreadful stuff, appalling to watch.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheGreatest on February 12, 2019, 12:25:38 PM
Fair play to Kerry, good game of ball, good atmosphere around the town afterwards.

There is nothing like a couple of defeats to put the sting in the tail for the Dubs, the only thing that matters is the Super 8s onwards.

Mayo Kerry league final would be welcomed.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 12, 2019, 12:56:58 PM
Fair play to Kerry, good game of ball, good atmosphere around the town afterwards.

There is nothing like a couple of defeats to put the sting in the tail for the Dubs, the only thing that matters is the Super 8s onwards.

Mayo Kerry league final would be welcomed.

Gavin definitely had to tailor your season to build fitness towards the championship more than recent years as the physical and mental strain would probably have been too much on the journey to the drive for five if you went all out to dominate the league, and you can see lads like Mannion, Cooper, Fenton, McAuley, Rock, Howard etc.. are getting sharper with every game.
It will be interesting to see how our new boys will get on against the All Ireland champs Sat week in Croker. I think the wider faster pitch compared to the McHale Park sanded bog will better suit our style under Horan and it will be intriguing to see if this plus the obvious extra work our lads have over the Dubs at the moment will be enough to bridge the huge gap between us in previous league meetings.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: weareros on February 12, 2019, 02:19:34 PM
Mayo Kerry league final would be welcomed.

By Jim Gavin most of all.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on February 12, 2019, 04:10:43 PM
Fair play to Kerry, good game of ball, good atmosphere around the town afterwards.

There is nothing like a couple of defeats to put the sting in the tail for the Dubs, the only thing that matters is the Super 8s onwards.

Mayo Kerry league final would be welcomed.

Gavin definitely had to tailor your season to build fitness towards the championship more than recent years as the physical and mental strain would probably have been too much on the journey to the drive for five if you went all out to dominate the league, and you can see lads like Mannion, Cooper, Fenton, McAuley, Rock, Howard etc.. are getting sharper with every game.
It will be interesting to see how our new boys will get on against the All Ireland champs Sat week in Croker. I think the wider faster pitch compared to the McHale Park sanded bog will better suit our style under Horan and it will be intriguing to see if this plus the obvious extra work our lads have over the Dubs at the moment will be enough to bridge the huge gap between us in previous league meetings.
It's far from make or break, but I still think Gavin would prefer Dubs to be in a league final. It's a competitive game, which is great preparation and you learn more from competitive games than any other. And while come August, many might not care who had won the league, on the day every single player on both sides will be doing their best to win.

In the 90s winning the league was seen in a similar fashion to winning the Par 3 in Augusta. There was only 1 double in a 13 year period.
Whereas from 2003 onwards there's been 9 doubles done.
A lot of people think that Dubs learning to beat Tyrone and Kerry in the league, helped us learn how to finally beat them in the championship, after years of being nearlymen.

The last year the Dubs didn't make the league final, 2012, we didn't win Sam. There was the 2011 hangover, so maybe not the biggest surprise. But in hindsight getting to a competitive league final, which I'd say we most likely would have lost, would have been the best thing that could have happened to us. Instead the first really competitive game we had, we were knocked out of the championship.

Certainly getting to a league final has never hurt us under the Gilroy/Gavin years, so while Jim won't lose any sleep over it, I'd be pretty sure he'd prefer to stick with the winning formula and get that extra competitive game in. Unless, maybe he thinks we'll get it against Meath for a change in Leinster!

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 12, 2019, 04:25:48 PM
Fair play to Kerry, good game of ball, good atmosphere around the town afterwards.

There is nothing like a couple of defeats to put the sting in the tail for the Dubs, the only thing that matters is the Super 8s onwards.

Mayo Kerry league final would be welcomed.

Gavin definitely had to tailor your season to build fitness towards the championship more than recent years as the physical and mental strain would probably have been too much on the journey to the drive for five if you went all out to dominate the league, and you can see lads like Mannion, Cooper, Fenton, McAuley, Rock, Howard etc.. are getting sharper with every game.
It will be interesting to see how our new boys will get on against the All Ireland champs Sat week in Croker. I think the wider faster pitch compared to the McHale Park sanded bog will better suit our style under Horan and it will be intriguing to see if this plus the obvious extra work our lads have over the Dubs at the moment will be enough to bridge the huge gap between us in previous league meetings.
It's far from make or break, but I still think Gavin would prefer Dubs to be in a league final. It's a competitive game, which is great preparation and you learn more from competitive games than any other. And while come August, many might not care who had won the league, on the day every single player on both sides will be doing their best to win.

In the 90s winning the league was seen in a similar fashion to winning the Par 3 in Augusta. There was only 1 double in a 13 year period.
Whereas from 2003 onwards there's been 9 doubles done.
A lot of people think that Dubs learning to beat Tyrone and Kerry in the league, helped us learn how to finally beat them in the championship, after years of being nearlymen.

The last year the Dubs didn't make the league final, 2012, we didn't win Sam. There was the 2011 hangover, so maybe not the biggest surprise. But in hindsight getting to a competitive league final, which I'd say we most likely would have lost, would have been the best thing that could have happened to us. Instead the first really competitive game we had, we were knocked out of the championship.

Certainly getting to a league final has never hurt us under the Gilroy/Gavin years, so while Jim won't lose any sleep over it, I'd be pretty sure he'd prefer to stick with the winning formula and get that extra competitive game in. Unless, maybe he thinks we'll get it against Meath for a change in Leinster!

https://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=24931.0
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: larryin89 on February 12, 2019, 05:31:40 PM
I can't understand this craic of thinking Dublin are out of the running to win the league , do ye not think they are capable of winning all their remaining games ? Personally I think they will win it out and in style too.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 12, 2019, 05:38:16 PM
I can't understand this craic of thinking Dublin are out of the running to win the league , do ye not think they are capable of winning all their remaining games ? Personally I think they will win it out and in style too.

The top two teams in Division 1 contest the National Football League final. The bottom two teams are relegated to Division 2.

If 2 teams end on one loss each and the Dubs win the next 4 games and have 2 losses they won't qualify

Mayo, Kerry, Galway and Ros all have superior losses to the Dubs . I don't think the Dubs are interested in the League this year
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 12, 2019, 06:08:19 PM
I can't understand this craic of thinking Dublin are out of the running to win the league , do ye not think they are capable of winning all their remaining games ? Personally I think they will win it out and in style too.

I expect them to win all their remaining games, whether thats enough to get them to a league final I don't know.

I'm surprised at the ex Kerry players the last few days, cute Kerry hoorism appears to have disappeared and they've got a bit carried away. Then there's the media, in the last 3 weeks they've got carried away with Monaghan, Mayo and now Kerry. I've not seen anything from anyone to suggest they could get within a few scores of Dublin, Kerry in particular conceded 2 goals against Dublin; Peter Keane will certainly be alarmed at how easy both goals were.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 12, 2019, 06:15:44 PM
The top two teams in Division 1 contest the National Football League final. The bottom two teams are relegated to Division 2.


Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 12, 2019, 06:35:11 PM
I was just looking at the odds there
Tyrone have drifted out from 8/1 to 50/1
The bookies obviously hate Tyrone as well
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: tonto1888 on February 12, 2019, 09:01:39 PM
I can't understand this craic of thinking Dublin are out of the running to win the league , do ye not think they are capable of winning all their remaining games ? Personally I think they will win it out and in style too.

The top two teams in Division 1 contest the National Football League final. The bottom two teams are relegated to Division 2.

If 2 teams end on one loss each and the Dubs win the next 4 games and have 2 losses they won't qualify

Mayo, Kerry, Galway and Ros all have superior losses to the Dubs . I don't think the Dubs are interested in the League this year

Superior losses?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Ringfort on February 12, 2019, 10:18:42 PM
I've really enjoyed the league again this year, three rounds in, plenty of stories and intrigue. The super 8s were introduced to try and improve the structural mess of the championship and there is constant talk of tiered championships. Maybe the powers that be were over complicating things. The perfect tiered competition is staring them in the face and more and more people are open about the league being the best competition we have. How about we just improve what we have???

Give the league more prominence.
Cut out the flab out of the championshiip.

I would run the league and championship concurrently. Three league divisions of 10,10,12 played from March to June. Championship starting in April and an open draw straight knockout played in between league games much like the soccer in England does the FA Cup. League semis and finals in July. AI final August bank holiday weekend.

Provincial championships played in Jan/Feb as stand alone competitions directly replacing FBD, McGrath cup etc.

Crucially, club leagues run in tandem with the county season from March to July. WITHOUT county panelists unless deliberately released by county management. Club championship played with full panel when county season over in August, Sept and October.

I know this is a bit off topic but I've just been thinking of ways to improve the league as you still get the very top teams (Kerry, Dublin ) giving it the "arra it's only the league we won't be getting excited" and "we're only back 4 weeks ie we don't give a shit" when for everyone else it's the best competition they have yet isn't given the full respect it deserves.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: oliverkelly on February 12, 2019, 10:18:56 PM
I was just looking at the odds there
Tyrone have drifted out from 8/1 to 50/1
The bookies obviously hate Tyrone as well

Wouldnt say that just reckon they've copped there operating at a way lower level and had a terrible ref not gave them multiple favourable decisions they woukd have one less point
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 13, 2019, 01:05:51 AM
That Mooney fella did them no harm anyway.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Soju on February 13, 2019, 03:05:17 AM
Interesting article about the influence Dublin have over the GAA, how they are using it to their advantage and how that inevitably is ruining football.

https://punditarena.com/features/emackenna/mackenna-on-monday-dublin-financial-advantage-must-be-addressed/
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheGreatest on February 13, 2019, 08:12:22 AM
I've really enjoyed the league again this year, three rounds in, plenty of stories and intrigue. The super 8s were introduced to try and improve the structural mess of the championship and there is constant talk of tiered championships. Maybe the powers that be were over complicating things. The perfect tiered competition is staring them in the face and more and more people are open about the league being the best competition we have. How about we just improve what we have???

Give the league more prominence.
Cut out the flab out of the championshiip.

I would run the league and championship concurrently. Three league divisions of 10,10,12 played from March to June. Championship starting in April and an open draw straight knockout played in between league games much like the soccer in England does the FA Cup. League semis and finals in July. AI final August bank holiday weekend.

Provincial championships played in Jan/Feb as stand alone competitions directly replacing FBD, McGrath cup etc.

Crucially, club leagues run in tandem with the county season from March to July. WITHOUT county panelists unless deliberately released by county management. Club championship played with full panel when county season over in August, Sept and October.

I know this is a bit off topic but I've just been thinking of ways to improve the league as you still get the very top teams (Kerry, Dublin ) giving it the "arra it's only the league we won't be getting excited" and "we're only back 4 weeks ie we don't give a shit" when for everyone else it's the best competition they have yet isn't given the full respect it deserves.

As Dublin fan and from a Dublin perspective, the league is a much better competition and worth more winning that the Leinster championship which is a dead competition and Dublin have 3 pre knock stage friendlies before the Super 8S, Lets be honest. Meath joint top of Div is a small hope.

The home and away format of the league is the way forward for the championship.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 13, 2019, 08:59:37 AM
I've really enjoyed the league again this year, three rounds in, plenty of stories and intrigue. The super 8s were introduced to try and improve the structural mess of the championship and there is constant talk of tiered championships. Maybe the powers that be were over complicating things. The perfect tiered competition is staring them in the face and more and more people are open about the league being the best competition we have. How about we just improve what we have???

Give the league more prominence.
Cut out the flab out of the championshiip.

I would run the league and championship concurrently. Three league divisions of 10,10,12 played from March to June. Championship starting in April and an open draw straight knockout played in between league games much like the soccer in England does the FA Cup. League semis and finals in July. AI final August bank holiday weekend.

Provincial championships played in Jan/Feb as stand alone competitions directly replacing FBD, McGrath cup etc.

Crucially, club leagues run in tandem with the county season from March to July. WITHOUT county panelists unless deliberately released by county management. Club championship played with full panel when county season over in August, Sept and October.

I know this is a bit off topic but I've just been thinking of ways to improve the league as you still get the very top teams (Kerry, Dublin ) giving it the "arra it's only the league we won't be getting excited" and "we're only back 4 weeks ie we don't give a shit" when for everyone else it's the best competition they have yet isn't given the full respect it deserves.

As Dublin fan and from a Dublin perspective, the league is a much better competition and worth more winning that the Leinster championship which is a dead competition and Dublin have 3 pre knock stage friendlies before the Super 8S, Lets be honest. Meath joint top of Div is a small hope.

The home and away format of the league is the way forward for the championship.
dead competition because ye play all the games at home
last time ye were in longford in 2006 ye barely got out of there and ye didn't have to play another game outside Croker for 10 years
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: northsideboy on February 13, 2019, 09:23:24 AM
Interesting article about the influence Dublin have over the GAA, how they are using it to their advantage and how that inevitably is ruining football.

https://punditarena.com/features/emackenna/mackenna-on-monday-dublin-financial-advantage-must-be-addressed/
There is plenty that could be said about that writer. Interesting isn't the term that I would use though.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 13, 2019, 09:25:05 AM
Interesting article about the influence Dublin have over the GAA, how they are using it to their advantage and how that inevitably is ruining football.

https://punditarena.com/features/emackenna/mackenna-on-monday-dublin-financial-advantage-must-be-addressed/
There is plenty that could be said about that writer. Interesting isn't the term that I would use though.
attack the writer, classic deflection
why not debate the issues?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: BennyHarp on February 13, 2019, 09:53:27 AM
Interesting article about the influence Dublin have over the GAA, how they are using it to their advantage and how that inevitably is ruining football.

https://punditarena.com/features/emackenna/mackenna-on-monday-dublin-financial-advantage-must-be-addressed/
There is plenty that could be said about that writer. Interesting isn't the term that I would use though.

I've little time for McKenna generally but ffs, how can you argue against the points raised in this article? The GAA set up committees to make endless baffling changes to the rules, under the guise of saving the game, whilst they continue to actively fund, promote and facilitate its biggest killer. Its unreal.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 13, 2019, 09:53:53 AM
Predicting the league this year is hard
Irish Times from Saturday

Monaghan v Galway, Inniskeen [Live, TG4] – Two teams with a 50-50 record to date and a fair bit of recent history. The evening Galway’s progressive 2018 went off the rails was when Monaghan arrived in Salthill for the last of the All-Ireland quarter-final round robins. The home side’s performance was astonishingly poor and it was downhill from there. Against Dublin they flattered to deceive and have now been further reduced by injuries to Cillian McDaid, who was impressive early on last week but now needs surgery on his foot, former All Star nominee Declan Kyne (ankle injury), and full back Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (shoulder). At home Monaghan will want to get back on the track that led them to beat Dublin on opening day. Verdict: Monaghan
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Tubberman on February 13, 2019, 09:58:31 AM
Predicting the league this year is hard
Irish Times from Saturday

Monaghan v Galway, Inniskeen [Live, TG4] – Two teams with a 50-50 record to date and a fair bit of recent history. The evening Galway’s progressive 2018 went off the rails was when Monaghan arrived in Salthill for the last of the All-Ireland quarter-final round robins. The home side’s performance was astonishingly poor and it was downhill from there. Against Dublin they flattered to deceive and have now been further reduced by injuries to Cillian McDaid, who was impressive early on last week but now needs surgery on his foot, former All Star nominee Declan Kyne (ankle injury), and full back Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh (shoulder). At home Monaghan will want to get back on the track that led them to beat Dublin on opening day. Verdict: Monaghan

Hindsight is you've engaged in there.
The league is always difficult to predict, that's why people enjoy it. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 13, 2019, 11:14:09 AM
The biggest issue in Dublin  is not enough clubs
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on February 13, 2019, 11:38:33 AM
Was there much discussion of the schemozzle on RTÉ on Saturday night? It was passed over completely on Sunday evening by the Dolan & Brolly. Tbh, I've no problem with that as I don't think there was a lot in it but hopefully they'll be consistent when it's two other counties.....
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: northsideboy on February 13, 2019, 12:12:22 PM
Interesting article about the influence Dublin have over the GAA, how they are using it to their advantage and how that inevitably is ruining football.

https://punditarena.com/features/emackenna/mackenna-on-monday-dublin-financial-advantage-must-be-addressed/
There is plenty that could be said about that writer. Interesting isn't the term that I would use though.
attack the writer, classic deflection
why not debate the issues?
When a writer is so embittered as he is, he best left ignored
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 13, 2019, 12:18:57 PM
Interesting article about the influence Dublin have over the GAA, how they are using it to their advantage and how that inevitably is ruining football.

https://punditarena.com/features/emackenna/mackenna-on-monday-dublin-financial-advantage-must-be-addressed/
There is plenty that could be said about that writer. Interesting isn't the term that I would use though.
attack the writer, classic deflection
why not debate the issues?
When a writer is so embittered as he is, he best left ignored

When i seen “Qu’ils mangent de la brioche” it shows he definitely reads GAABOARD. ;)

A great concise piece. There are a growing amount of us bitters. And for good reason. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 13, 2019, 12:19:18 PM
What was MacKenna getting at the other day with his tweet about Lee Keegan? He deleted it the next day.

Whilst we're on about Mayo I read the other day that there charging $25000 for a table of 10 at a fundraiser in the states!! If they can sell all those tables for that amount then you'd have to take your hat off to them. I can't understand their county board though, they've a huge diaspora which is probably bigger than anyone elses that they could take more advantage off. Their lack of a commercial manager is baffling, they should have been taking advantage of this team since 2012.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: weareros on February 13, 2019, 01:34:40 PM
What was MacKenna getting at the other day with his tweet about Lee Keegan? He deleted it the next day.

Whilst we're on about Mayo I read the other day that there charging $25000 for a table of 10 at a fundraiser in the states!! If they can sell all those tables for that amount then you'd have to take your hat off to them. I can't understand their county board though, they've a huge diaspora which is probably bigger than anyone elses that they could take more advantage off. Their lack of a commercial manager is baffling, they should have been taking advantage of this team since 2012.

Was there some brouhaha with the Mayo county board trying to get the team attend a function right before the championship match in NY, and the team rightly declined. Or was that us the Rossies. I can never remember which county board annoys their supporters the most.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 13, 2019, 02:44:19 PM
What was MacKenna getting at the other day with his tweet about Lee Keegan? He deleted it the next day.

Whilst we're on about Mayo I read the other day that there charging $25000 for a table of 10 at a fundraiser in the states!! If they can sell all those tables for that amount then you'd have to take your hat off to them. I can't understand their county board though, they've a huge diaspora which is probably bigger than anyone elses that they could take more advantage off. Their lack of a commercial manager is baffling, they should have been taking advantage of this team since 2012.

Don't worry Manc most of us don't understand the county board either!! The lack of a commercial manager is probably about control and the executive don't want to give up any power (even if it would in reality make their lives easier!!) as it would weaken their own little patch and may hurt aspirations of officers on gaining and or keeping their influence!!
They did announce around the time of the Rochford firing debacle broke taht they would be seeking to appoint a commercial manager but there hasn't been any news since and I guess they are going to try and long finger that appointment for as long as possible!!
The New York fundraiser is being organised by a prominent New Yooker who is the son of a Mayowoman which is welcome compared to the poor attempts by this county board at fundraising from the last trip ( I thin they raised $6,000).
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 13, 2019, 02:52:01 PM
What was MacKenna getting at the other day with his tweet about Lee Keegan? He deleted it the next day.

Whilst we're on about Mayo I read the other day that there charging $25000 for a table of 10 at a fundraiser in the states!! If they can sell all those tables for that amount then you'd have to take your hat off to them. I can't understand their county board though, they've a huge diaspora which is probably bigger than anyone elses that they could take more advantage off. Their lack of a commercial manager is baffling, they should have been taking advantage of this team since 2012.

Was there some brouhaha with the Mayo county board trying to get the team attend a function right before the championship match in NY, and the team rightly declined. Or was that us the Rossies. I can never remember which county board annoys their supporters the most.

No that was our crowd weareros , a shabby organised event where the county board wanted the team to turn up at a bar owned by an ex-Mayo player on the night before the game and mingle around with well oiled supporters who had to pay a high cover charge for entry. Horan said get stuffed as he had a game to play the next day. The bar owner still packed the place out and the county board had a big biscuit tin at the door which only netted $6,000 out of all the money paid into said biscuit tin!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 13, 2019, 03:24:25 PM
What was MacKenna getting at the other day with his tweet about Lee Keegan? He deleted it the next day.
What was the tweet?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 13, 2019, 03:36:06 PM
You might have a large diaspora abroad but most of them want to contribute nothing
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheGreatest on February 13, 2019, 03:41:58 PM
What was MacKenna getting at the other day with his tweet about Lee Keegan? He deleted it the next day.
What was the tweet?

He has a hard on for him (no messing).
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheGreatest on February 13, 2019, 03:43:34 PM
Interesting article about the influence Dublin have over the GAA, how they are using it to their advantage and how that inevitably is ruining football.

https://punditarena.com/features/emackenna/mackenna-on-monday-dublin-financial-advantage-must-be-addressed/
There is plenty that could be said about that writer. Interesting isn't the term that I would use though.
attack the writer, classic deflection
why not debate the issues?
When a writer is so embittered as he is, he best left ignored

Wolves do not concern themselves with the opinion  of sheep.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 13, 2019, 03:51:37 PM
What was MacKenna getting at the other day with his tweet about Lee Keegan? He deleted it the next day.
What was the tweet?

He has a hard on for him (no messing).

Who has a hard on for who?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: rosnarun on February 13, 2019, 04:00:17 PM
What was MacKenna getting at the other day with his tweet about Lee Keegan? He deleted it the next day.

Whilst we're on about Mayo I read the other day that there charging $25000 for a table of 10 at a fundraiser in the states!! If they can sell all those tables for that amount then you'd have to take your hat off to them. I can't understand their county board though, they've a huge diaspora which is probably bigger than anyone elses that they could take more advantage off. Their lack of a commercial manager is baffling, they should have been taking advantage of this team since 2012.

Was there some brouhaha with the Mayo county board trying to get the team attend a function right before the championship match in NY, and the team rightly declined. Or was that us the Rossies. I can never remember which county board annoys their supporters the most.

No that was our crowd weareros , a shabby organised event where the county board wanted the team to turn up at a bar owned by an ex-Mayo player on the night before the game and mingle around with well oiled supporters who had to pay a high cover charge for entry. Horan said get stuffed as he had a game to play the next day. The bar owner still packed the place out and the county board had a big biscuit tin at the door which only netted $6,000 out of all the money paid into said biscuit tin!!
I heard a private whip round for the players made a lot more than that delivered in to them in a dunes store bag. the spirit is will but there too much resentment towards the county board for them to do it them selves
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 13, 2019, 05:25:32 PM
What was MacKenna getting at the other day with his tweet about Lee Keegan? He deleted it the next day.
What was the tweet?

Something like he wants to interview him more than anybody else.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 13, 2019, 07:44:32 PM
Was there much discussion of the schemozzle on RTÉ on Saturday night? It was passed over completely on Sunday evening by the Dolan & Brolly. Tbh, I've no problem with that as I don't think there was a lot in it but hopefully they'll be consistent when it's two other counties.....
Location,
it wasn't in Omagh.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheMaster on February 13, 2019, 07:51:49 PM
The biggest issue in Dublin  is not enough clubs

look at a county that has had relative success at underage for their size without a huge development money spend

eg Roscommon.
they reached something like 8 U21 finals in Connacht in a row and reached two All Ireland U21 finals (met the Dublin juggernaut on both occasions).
most of the Roscommon players on those teams are no longer playing county football and in fact a lot of them are no longer playing club football!
Why? they haven't got the opportunity to study/work/live near home and travelling long distances for games and training isn't feasible.

Roscommon have had a huge turnover of players in the last 5 years alone, as most young players cannot give the commitment needed.
The county is hugely economically disadvantaged as they cannot pull in huge team or individual sponsorships to help with team costs.

and that is a team that reached the last 8 last summer and is Division 1. if they are in that boat, how are the counties outside the top 10 teams meant to compete?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 13, 2019, 08:25:21 PM
The biggest issue in Dublin  is not enough clubs

look at a county that has had relative success at underage for their size without a huge development money spend

eg Roscommon.
they reached something like 8 U21 finals in Connacht in a row and reached two All Ireland U21 finals (met the Dublin juggernaut on both occasions).
most of the Roscommon players on those teams are no longer playing county football and in fact a lot of them are no longer playing club football!
Why? they haven't got the opportunity to study/work/live near home and travelling long distances for games and training isn't feasible.

Roscommon have had a huge turnover of players in the last 5 years alone, as most young players cannot give the commitment needed.
The county is hugely economically disadvantaged as they cannot pull in huge team or individual sponsorships to help with team costs.

and that is a team that reached the last 8 last summer and is Division 1. if they are in that boat, how are the counties outside the top 10 teams meant to compete?
What's that got to do with clubs in Dublin?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: priceyreilly on February 13, 2019, 11:19:59 PM
Interesting article about the influence Dublin have over the GAA, how they are using it to their advantage and how that inevitably is ruining football.

https://punditarena.com/features/emackenna/mackenna-on-monday-dublin-financial-advantage-must-be-addressed/
There is plenty that could be said about that writer. Interesting isn't the term that I would use though.
attack the writer, classic deflection
why not debate the issues?
When a writer is so embittered as he is, he best left ignored

When i seen “Qu’ils mangent de la brioche” it shows he definitely reads GAABOARD. ;)

A great concise piece. There are a growing amount of us bitters. And for good reason.

He basically stole all of DONT MATTERS material and made a career out of it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 14, 2019, 03:38:32 PM
What was MacKenna getting at the other day with his tweet about Lee Keegan? He deleted it the next day.
What was the tweet?

Something like he wants to interview him more than anybody else.

In one way but he was certainly alluding to something, he always does. Look at some of the replies to his tweet that he 'liked' and convinced of that given he's deleted it.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: rosnarun on February 14, 2019, 03:56:08 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.
why do you think the Mayo support has held up as well as it has if we idnt appreciate the journey . don't pay any attention to the moanbags on here from mayo some have ben predicting the end of the world since  horan came last time if not before.
some of mayo best matches have been ones they  ended up losing im thinking of Kerry in limerick  in particular and they lost  no glory or honour  and won a lot of fans in the process.
I would rather mayo lose with their dignity intact rather than go down the route of galway and try and bore every one to death despite possibly having the best set of forwards in the county
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 14, 2019, 04:09:28 PM
Galway had to go down the "bore" route as the other style of play had got them nowhere for years and they had become a established Div 2 team that couldn't win Connacht.   Kerry and Dublin have the best set of forwards in country and that includes subs forwards to bring on. Are Galway best forwards Burke,Walsh,Comer really better than Mayo's best the O'Connor brothers,Moran?

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: joemamas on February 14, 2019, 04:31:03 PM
Galway had to go down the "bore" route as the other style of play had got them nowhere for years and they had become a established Div 2 team that couldn't win Connacht.   Kerry and Dublin have the best set of forwards in country and that includes subs forwards to bring on.
Are Galway best forwards Burke,Walsh,Comer and(Daly) really better than Mayo's best the O'Connor brothers (btw, one plays midfield),Moran?
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Unfortunately yes is the answer
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 14, 2019, 04:42:21 PM
Galway had to go down the "bore" route as the other style of play had got them nowhere for years and they had become a established Div 2 team that couldn't win Connacht.   Kerry and Dublin have the best set of forwards in country and that includes subs forwards to bring on.
Are Galway best forwards Burke,Walsh,Comer and(Daly) really better than Mayo's best the O'Connor brothers (btw, one plays midfield),Moran?
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Unfortunately yes is the answer

Daly due to injury hasn't become a established Galway senior forward yet. Diarmuid O'Connor is only given a trial run in midfield at the moment, Mayo's best forwards in the last few years was those three players in the terms of scoring and creating.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 14, 2019, 05:01:22 PM
Galway had to go down the "bore" route as the other style of play had got them nowhere for years and they had become a established Div 2 team that couldn't win Connacht.   Kerry and Dublin have the best set of forwards in country and that includes subs forwards to bring on. Are Galway best forwards Burke,Walsh,Comer really better than Mayo's best the O'Connor brothers,Moran?

We have a far better overall standard of player now that we had back them IMO when we were losing to Antrim and the likes. Granted it doesn't seem like that at times because Kevin Walsh's style of football often comes down to winning ugly so even when you win you don't look great. I 100% think the players are there to win playing more expansively but are we going to see that under the current management? I have my doubts. He seems wedded to his system for good or bad and in fairness to him he has really steadied the ship as Barry Cullinane said on Second Captains this week, a few years back it seemed Galway football was headed the same way as Cork.

It might take somebody else to take them further though.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 14, 2019, 05:16:22 PM
Galway had to go down the "bore" route as the other style of play had got them nowhere for years and they had become a established Div 2 team that couldn't win Connacht.   Kerry and Dublin have the best set of forwards in country and that includes subs forwards to bring on.
Are Galway best forwards Burke,Walsh,Comer and(Daly) really better than Mayo's best the O'Connor brothers (btw, one plays midfield),Moran?
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Unfortunately yes is the answer

Someone from Mayo told me recently that Mayo haven't been producing decent forwards for a good while 
I was watching the 99 Connacht Final the other day and even then the forwards were missing the bit of je ne sais quoi

Whereas we always had fellas  like Shane Walsh,  P Joyce, M Meehan , Ja, Donnellan , Val Daly, Stephen Joyce going back 30 years
I wonder why there is such a difference 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 14, 2019, 05:26:22 PM
I heard a rumour that Galway might be moving the Ros game to Tuam.
Any truth or just wishful thinking by one of our crew???
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: joemamas on February 14, 2019, 05:44:04 PM
Galway had to go down the "bore" route as the other style of play had got them nowhere for years and they had become a established Div 2 team that couldn't win Connacht.   Kerry and Dublin have the best set of forwards in country and that includes subs forwards to bring on.
Are Galway best forwards Burke,Walsh,Comer and(Daly) really better than Mayo's best the O'Connor brothers (btw, one plays midfield),Moran?
[/b][/u]

Unfortunately yes is the answer

Someone from Mayo told me recently that Mayo haven't been producing decent forwards for a good while 
I was watching the 99 Connacht Final the other day and even then the forwards were missing the bit of je ne sais quoi

Whereas we always had fellas  like Shane Walsh,  P Joyce, M Meehan , Ja, Donnellan , Val Daly, Stephen Joyce going back 30 years
I wonder why there is such a difference

Shit coaching/skill developement
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on February 14, 2019, 06:17:39 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.
why do you think the Mayo support has held up as well as it has if we idnt appreciate the journey . don't pay any attention to the moanbags on here from mayo some have ben predicting the end of the world since  horan came last time if not before.
some of mayo best matches have been ones they  ended up losing im thinking of Kerry in limerick  in particular and they lost  no glory or honour  and won a lot of fans in the process.
I would rather mayo lose with their dignity intact rather than go down the route of galway and try and bore every one to death despite possibly having the best set of forwards in the county
Not disputing we aren't the most exciting to watch at times but don't tell me you would give a flying f**k if Mayo won the AI playing similarly.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on February 14, 2019, 07:56:22 PM

It might take somebody else to take them further though.

I think you're right there. There's a ceiling to Walsh's way of playing
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 14, 2019, 09:38:09 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.
why do you think the Mayo support has held up as well as it has if we idnt appreciate the journey . don't pay any attention to the moanbags on here from mayo some have ben predicting the end of the world since  horan came last time if not before.
some of mayo best matches have been ones they  ended up losing im thinking of Kerry in limerick  in particular and they lost  no glory or honour  and won a lot of fans in the process.
I would rather mayo lose with their dignity intact rather than go down the route of galway and try and bore every one to death despite possibly having the best set of forwards in the county
Not disputing we aren't the most exciting to watch at times but don't tell me you would give a flying f**k if Mayo won the AI playing similarly.

Galway went the Fancy Dan way for the guts of 15 years and had some really embarrassing years.  Many awful results went under the radar because they happened in obscure grounds in the backdoor.

It may be muck to watch, but Galway have got more big game experience in the last 3 years than they got in the 10 years before that. I suppose the issue is when do you come out of this shell?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 15, 2019, 01:59:12 AM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.
why do you think the Mayo support has held up as well as it has if we idnt appreciate the journey . don't pay any attention to the moanbags on here from mayo some have ben predicting the end of the world since  horan came last time if not before.
some of mayo best matches have been ones they  ended up losing im thinking of Kerry in limerick  in particular and they lost  no glory or honour  and won a lot of fans in the process.
I would rather mayo lose with their dignity intact rather than go down the route of galway and try and bore every one to death despite possibly having the best set of forwards in the county
Not disputing we aren't the most exciting to watch at times but don't tell me you would give a flying f**k if Mayo won the AI playing similarly.

Galway went the Fancy Dan way for the guts of 15 years and had some really embarrassing years.  Many awful results went under the radar because they happened in obscure grounds in the backdoor.

It may be muck to watch, but Galway have got more big game experience in the last 3 years than they got in the 10 years before that. I suppose the issue is when do you come out of this shell?

Ní uasal agus íseal ach thuas seal agus thíos seal

We didn’t have the players a lot of the time. Meath and Down
would be in that situation now
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: mouview on February 15, 2019, 12:38:35 PM
I heard a rumour that Galway might be moving the Ros game to Tuam.
Any truth or just wishful thinking by one of our crew???

I'd also heard a rumour that the venues for the Kerry and Ros games were going to be swapped around, as the dressing rooms mightn't be ready for the Kerry match. There should have been an announcement by now though to allow Kerry travelling fans the chance to make/change accommodation arrangements. 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 15, 2019, 02:05:45 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.
why do you think the Mayo support has held up as well as it has if we idnt appreciate the journey . don't pay any attention to the moanbags on here from mayo some have ben predicting the end of the world since  horan came last time if not before.
some of mayo best matches have been ones they  ended up losing im thinking of Kerry in limerick  in particular and they lost  no glory or honour  and won a lot of fans in the process.
I would rather mayo lose with their dignity intact rather than go down the route of galway and try and bore every one to death despite possibly having the best set of forwards in the county
Not disputing we aren't the most exciting to watch at times but don't tell me you would give a flying f**k if Mayo won the AI playing similarly.

Galway went the Fancy Dan way for the guts of 15 years and had some really embarrassing years.  Many awful results went under the radar because they happened in obscure grounds in the backdoor.

It may be muck to watch, but Galway have got more big game experience in the last 3 years than they got in the 10 years before that. I suppose the issue is when do you come out of this shell?

I think its highly unlikely Galway change from last year, Kevin Walsh will be confident of beating everyone apart from Dublin playing this way. Galway did apply more pressure to Cluxton's kickout in the first half of the semi last year then they had done in the previous matches but Galway were out on their feet in the 2nd half.

We'll see what happens throughout the summer but I'm very confident that the panel is a lot stronger than last year, whether thats enough to go further I haven't a clue.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 15, 2019, 03:20:31 PM

I think its highly unlikely Galway change from last year, Kevin Walsh will be confident of beating everyone apart from Dublin playing this way. Galway did apply more pressure to Cluxton's kickout in the first half of the semi last year then they had done in the previous matches but Galway were out on their feet in the 2nd half.

We'll see what happens throughout the summer but I'm very confident that the panel is a lot stronger than last year, whether thats enough to go further I haven't a clue.

Is the only correct answer to the questions raised about teams and how they are going to fare in 2019. The amount of overreaction to the early league results (both good and bad) is crazy, it's mid February.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 15, 2019, 09:24:16 PM

It might take somebody else to take them further though.

I think you're right there. There's a ceiling to Walsh's way of playing

He has given them a high floor to build off for whoever follows him in the job which didn't exist when he took over!
It is a fair achievement when you look at what happened to the likes of Cork and Meath when they let things drift!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Lar Naparka on February 15, 2019, 11:24:31 PM
I expect a loss on Saturday   , with a defeat to Tyrone the following week highly likely , relegation would then be on the cards. I expect a very poor show in the championship ,  with a few depressing retirements at the end of the season the likes we'll never see again . It will be a dull dark gloomy period over the next two years . You'd have to think if Dublin win 7/8 in a row the county game itself might die altogether too.

You don't have to ask Mystic Meg what's ahead for Mayo. Championship wise a lot will depend on a lucky draw for how far we progress.  Mayo not qualifying for the Super 8 last year was a financial disaster for Corporate GAA. So Corporate GAA will do their best to make sure they are there this year.

The game is dead for all teams outside division One, and that's being nice to Cavan and Roscommon. It's even being nice to the other 5! Dublin roll on and we are told we need them to be big and powerful for the GAA to prosper financially. Problem is they need opponents and they don't have any. Dublin fans are getting bored. We are all getting bored. Great hopes of the last couple of years like, Mayo, Tyrone, Kerry and Monaghan, Donegal have come up short and are coming up shorter each year. Kerry because of tradition look like the best bet to topple the Dubs in the future and that in it own way is as depressing as total Dublin domination.

There is a lot more to championship football than just winning the All Ireland. Sport as in life can be about the journey not just the destination and i don't think some Mayo supporters appreciate the journey they have been on since Horan became manager the first time. Now park your dead talk and focus on the topic of the thread which is Div 1 league football.
why do you think the Mayo support has held up as well as it has if we idnt appreciate the journey . don't pay any attention to the moanbags on here from mayo some have ben predicting the end of the world since  horan came last time if not before.
some of mayo best matches have been ones they  ended up losing im thinking of Kerry in limerick  in particular and they lost  no glory or honour  and won a lot of fans in the process.
I would rather mayo lose with their dignity intact rather than go down the route of galway and try and bore every one to death despite possibly having the best set of forwards in the county
Bang on Ross, stuff the begrudgers!
Mayo have shag all money to spend on anything bar travelling expenses. So they spent over €580,000 one year that's listed under travelling expenses. (Was it last year?)
But that'snot the full story- not by a long shot.
Sometimes they hold collective sessions come championship in Mayo. (Bekan?) At other times, they train in Dublin and that means renting a pitch and paying hotel costs for those travelling up. And to cap it all, they have also rented a pitch somewhere in the midlands. Now, I am certain that only applies to the senior panel and is one of the main reasons why Mayo can't be arsed with the league. No helicopters on call for our hardy bucks.  ;D;D
Can all this be true?
 Well, that's what I read in my copy of the Indo on Wednesday anyway.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 16, 2019, 09:44:24 AM
The Dubs will never understand the logistics in getting U20 players home from college to train and senior panellists home who go to college and work in Dublin

and the costs involved.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 16, 2019, 11:08:18 AM
Not to mention the odd lad in Carlow or Dundalk or Limerick.....
They don't need to understand fundraising either with their AIG, "official partners" " official cars" etc etc
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on February 16, 2019, 08:08:43 PM
The Dubs will never understand the logistics in getting U20 players home from college to train and senior panellists home who go to college and work in Dublin

and the costs involved.

This thread started out ostensibly as the place at which the 2019 NFL Division 1 might be discussed - and with this being the most open Div. 1 for a number of years you’d think there’d be plenty to discuss. But surprise, surprise like so many threads on this board begrudgery takes over.

Remember lads Dublin are sitting in sixth position in Division 1. Surely that alone should encourage more positive discussion and less of the “poor us” whinging.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 16, 2019, 08:21:20 PM
The Dubs will never understand the logistics in getting U20 players home from college to train and senior panellists home who go to college and work in Dublin

and the costs involved.

This thread started out ostensibly as the place at which the 2019 NFL Division 1 might be discussed - and with this being the most open Div. 1 for a number of years you’d think there’d be plenty to discuss. But surprise, surprise like so many threads on this board begrudgery takes over.

Remember lads Dublin are sitting in sixth position in Division 1. Surely that alone should encourage more positive discussion and less of the “poor us” whinging.

You are saying that we should take some solace from a the fact that not one of the Dublin squad togged out for the O'Byrne Cup. And that they have half arsed their way in the League so far. It's like the lesser Clubs in England getting excited about the Man Utd, Liverpools, Man City and Spurs putting out half arsed teams in the League Cup and FA Cup and calling it a giant killing when they fall!

You have only two more away games left until the end of the season.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Lar Naparka on February 16, 2019, 09:24:54 PM
The Dubs will never understand the logistics in getting U20 players home from college to train and senior panellists home who go to college and work in Dublin

and the costs involved.

This thread started out ostensibly as the place at which the 2019 NFL Division 1 might be discussed - and with this being the most open Div. 1 for a number of years you’d think there’d be plenty to discuss. But surprise, surprise like so many threads on this board begrudgery takes over.

Remember lads Dublin are sitting in sixth position in Division 1. Surely that alone should encourage more positive discussion and less of the “poor us” whinging.
I agree with you - on this one at any rate. I generally don't go in for moaning either. I don't blame the Dubs for being so far in front of every other team in the and. You will recall that I once said turkeys can't be expected to vote for Christmas or something along those lines.
If dudes from other counties object, the people to get onto are their own county boards and find out why they are prepared to be pushed aside without a whimper.
There are a good few Dublin heads who need a reality check also. Some keep on asking the same f***ing questions over and over.
 Take yer man Jell O Biafra for example. I mentioned the figures involved if Dublin was to be split in four- along modern county lines. So he comes back with something like where was my concern for players who were denied  chance to play at intercounty level when Dublin wasn't winning all around them?
What the  feck has that got to do with what I wrote?
I didn't express my opinion, neither good nor bad. Anyone could use the same basic arithmetic and would have to come to the same conclusion as I did.
I'm not mad or anything like that but I am confused. It seems a good few Dublin heads didn't learn English as their first language and that for once is my personal opinion.
They don't have a total monopoly on stupidity on here either but that's irrelevant also. ;D
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on February 16, 2019, 10:33:58 PM
The Dubs will never understand the logistics in getting U20 players home from college to train and senior panellists home who go to college and work in Dublin

and the costs involved.

This thread started out ostensibly as the place at which the 2019 NFL Division 1 might be discussed - and with this being the most open Div. 1 for a number of years you’d think there’d be plenty to discuss. But surprise, surprise like so many threads on this board begrudgery takes over.

Remember lads Dublin are sitting in sixth position in Division 1. Surely that alone should encourage more positive discussion and less of the “poor us” whinging.

You are saying that we should take some solace from a the fact that not one of the Dublin squad togged out for the O'Byrne Cup. And that they have half arsed their way in the League so far. It's like the lesser Clubs in England getting excited about the Man Utd, Liverpools, Man City and Spurs putting out half arsed teams in the League Cup and FA Cup and calling it a giant killing when they fall!

You have only two more away games left until the end of the season.

I’d like to be as optimistic about Dublin’s prospects for the rest of this year as you seem to be yourself.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 16, 2019, 11:06:18 PM
The Dubs will never understand the logistics in getting U20 players home from college to train and senior panellists home who go to college and work in Dublin

and the costs involved.

This thread started out ostensibly as the place at which the 2019 NFL Division 1 might be discussed - and with this being the most open Div. 1 for a number of years you’d think there’d be plenty to discuss. But surprise, surprise like so many threads on this board begrudgery takes over.

Remember lads Dublin are sitting in sixth position in Division 1. Surely that alone should encourage more positive discussion and less of the “poor us” whinging.

You are saying that we should take some solace from a the fact that not one of the Dublin squad togged out for the O'Byrne Cup. And that they have half arsed their way in the League so far. It's like the lesser Clubs in England getting excited about the Man Utd, Liverpools, Man City and Spurs putting out half arsed teams in the League Cup and FA Cup and calling it a giant killing when they fall!

You have only two more away games left until the end of the season.

I’d like to be as optimistic about Dublin’s prospects for the rest of this year as you seem to be yourself.

Well the Bookies are optimistic - they have you at 1/2!

Next favourite is Kerry at 11/2!

Dads Army are at 11/1!

 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Main Street on February 17, 2019, 09:05:58 PM
The double is on,
div 3A
Tyrone 2-13 Monaghan 4-12.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 18, 2019, 10:01:57 AM
The Dubs will never understand the logistics in getting U20 players home from college to train and senior panellists home who go to college and work in Dublin

and the costs involved.

This thread started out ostensibly as the place at which the 2019 NFL Division 1 might be discussed - and with this being the most open Div. 1 for a number of years you’d think there’d be plenty to discuss. But surprise, surprise like so many threads on this board begrudgery takes over.

Remember lads Dublin are sitting in sixth position in Division 1. Surely that alone should encourage more positive discussion and less of the “poor us” whinging.

You are saying that we should take some solace from a the fact that not one of the Dublin squad togged out for the O'Byrne Cup. And that they have half arsed their way in the League so far. It's like the lesser Clubs in England getting excited about the Man Utd, Liverpools, Man City and Spurs putting out half arsed teams in the League Cup and FA Cup and calling it a giant killing when they fall!

You have only two more away games left until the end of the season.

I’d like to be as optimistic about Dublin’s prospects for the rest of this year as you seem to be yourself.

Well the Bookies are optimistic - they have you at 1/2!

Next favourite is Kerry at 11/2!

Dads Army are at 11/1!

The Dubs should be 50/1 really with only 2 points after 3 games
Fento missed a free at the end so they have been putting in a huge effort, bud. 
Mayo should be 50/1 on
Bleedin culchies
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 18, 2019, 04:27:15 PM
Damien Comer is out for the entirety of the league for a Galway due to surgery on his ankle.
That is in the months recovery timeframe you'd imagine, will he be even right for the start of the championship? Not an injury you'd want to be rushing back from.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 18, 2019, 04:42:37 PM
Damien Comer is out for the entirety of the league for a Galway due to surgery on his ankle.
That is in the months recovery timeframe you'd imagine, will he be even right for the start of the championship? Not an injury you'd want to be rushing back from.

Corofin are some team and the players missing from the county side are significant.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on February 18, 2019, 05:11:46 PM
Damien Comer is out for the entirety of the league for a Galway due to surgery on his ankle.
That is in the months recovery timeframe you'd imagine, will he be even right for the start of the championship? Not an injury you'd want to be rushing back from.
Unlikely to be available for the London game I would think - has time on his side if the Op goes well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 18, 2019, 07:49:35 PM
Damien Comer is out for the entirety of the league for a Galway due to surgery on his ankle.
That is in the months recovery timeframe you'd imagine, will he be even right for the start of the championship? Not an injury you'd want to be rushing back from.

I imagine he'll be fit alright for championship but he won't have any football done whatsoever. Whether that means he'll be nice and fresh or badly lacking match sharpness who knows?

Seems like they thought his injury would heal without surgery at first but now they have to go back and get it done.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 19, 2019, 07:35:23 AM
My Mayo v Dublin  prediction is a narrow Dublin win.

Oh and by the way...let's stick to predicting based on football please. Yes FtB, looking firmly at you.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 19, 2019, 09:46:34 AM
My Mayo v Dublin  prediction is a narrow Dublin win.

Oh and by the way...let's stick to predicting based on football please. Yes FtB, looking firmly at you.
If Mayo win the Dubs are definitely out of contention for the League final
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 19, 2019, 10:32:43 AM
Damien Comer is out for the entirety of the league for a Galway due to surgery on his ankle.
That is in the months recovery timeframe you'd imagine, will he be even right for the start of the championship? Not an injury you'd want to be rushing back from.

I imagine he'll be fit alright for championship but he won't have any football done whatsoever. Whether that means he'll be nice and fresh or badly lacking match sharpness who knows?

Seems like they thought his injury would heal without surgery at first but now they have to go back and get it done.

There's 4 months to the Connacht final, think its unlikely we see the best of Comer by the middle of June if at all this summer.

He's admitted himself he suffered a lot with injuries and had the tendency to do too much work in the gym to compensate and with the type of injury he's reported to have its going to be difficult to get back to where he was last summer.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 19, 2019, 10:43:04 AM
My Mayo v Dublin  prediction is a narrow Dublin win.

Oh and by the way...let's stick to predicting based on football please. Yes FtB, looking firmly at you.

I am thinking the same, Mayo put it up to them then the superior Duns bench put us away in the last 10 or 15 mins so the Dubs by 4 or 5.
Although we could struggle in midfield so maybe the Dubs open up a bit more in the second half and the margin could be greater but I still think we will keep it more interesting than recent years!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: The Hill is Blue on February 19, 2019, 12:04:40 PM
My Mayo v Dublin  prediction is a narrow Dublin win.

Oh and by the way...let's stick to predicting based on football please. Yes FtB, looking firmly at you.

On the face of it Mayo have to be favourites. They've made a blistering start to the league while Dublin have been slow off the blocks. I think James Horan would like to end the Dubs' narrow dominance over Mayo in Croker and I suspect that he will send out a team to do that. On the other hand Jim Gavin will probably want to stem the flow of losses and will certainly want to maintain the Dubs' stranglehold over Mayo in Croker.

A lot of uncertainty about how this game will pan out, as there always is at this time of the year.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on February 19, 2019, 01:51:44 PM
My Mayo v Dublin  prediction is a narrow Dublin win.

Oh and by the way...let's stick to predicting based on football please. Yes FtB, looking firmly at you.

On the face of it Mayo have to be favourites. They've made a blistering start to the league while Dublin have been slow off the blocks. I think James Horan would like to end the Dubs' narrow dominance over Mayo in Croker and I suspect that he will send out a team to do that. On the other hand Jim Gavin will probably want to stem the flow of losses and will certainly want to maintain the Dubs' stranglehold over Mayo in Croker.

A lot of uncertainty about how this game will pan out, as there always is at this time of the year.

How many meaningful games have Dublin lost in Croke Park over the last few years? The league final against Kerry is the only one I can think of since 2014.

Dublin are rightly favourites for this game. Bookies are saying 3 points is the handicap.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Hound on February 20, 2019, 04:41:25 PM
My Mayo v Dublin  prediction is a narrow Dublin win.

Oh and by the way...let's stick to predicting based on football please. Yes FtB, looking firmly at you.

On the face of it Mayo have to be favourites. They've made a blistering start to the league while Dublin have been slow off the blocks. I think James Horan would like to end the Dubs' narrow dominance over Mayo in Croker and I suspect that he will send out a team to do that. On the other hand Jim Gavin will probably want to stem the flow of losses and will certainly want to maintain the Dubs' stranglehold over Mayo in Croker.

A lot of uncertainty about how this game will pan out, as there always is at this time of the year.

How many meaningful games have Dublin lost in Croke Park over the last few years? The league final against Kerry is the only one I can think of since 2014.

Dublin are rightly favourites for this game. Bookies are saying 3 points is the handicap.
That’s the only one I remember too, regardless of location!

Really looking forward to this. Especially what we do with O’Connor at midfield.
I think the Dubs will really go for it. Even though it’s not going to count for a whole lot, it will give Mayo a little edge for the summer if they beat us. And Jim won’t want that, I guess. I definitely don’t want it!

Tactics will be fascinating, given they won’t want to give away their full hand, but will want to win. Should be attacking policies from both sides.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on February 20, 2019, 10:37:16 PM

I expect Horan will see this as just another league game and keep looking at some new players. See what happens.
There is no pressure for points in this one because of good start and there is no concern about winning the league or anything.
I wouldn't rule out a Mayo win but it would be of no significance if we did - for what might happen later in the year that is. Losing would not be of any great significance either,
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on February 21, 2019, 02:03:46 AM
Agree with that.  Though given that a Mayo win  would eliminate Dublin from a league final, and give Mayo a clear shot at a national title, I wonder whether that would be motivation enough?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on February 21, 2019, 02:23:41 AM

Here's what you said, Lar:

How many Dublin club players drop out of the game before they would wish because of the lack of opportunity to advance to at least one higher level?
IMO, that's the real tragedy.

Here's what I said back:

All this concern for Dublin players who drop out because of sheer numbers is very touching.  Not sure how I managed to miss it all back when we weren't  winning.


Neither one of us mentioned the county game in regards to when players drop out.

You said 'tragedy', about Dublin players dropping out.  If that isn't expressing an opinion, then I give up.  Maybe English isn't your first language?

 

There's lots of good arguments to be had about Dublin's advantages, but this one--players losing out-- is just disingenuous.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 21, 2019, 07:12:55 AM

Here's what you said, Lar:

How many Dublin club players drop out of the game before they would wish because of the lack of opportunity to advance to at least one higher level?
IMO, that's the real tragedy.

Here's what I said back:

All this concern for Dublin players who drop out because of sheer numbers is very touching.  Not sure how I managed to miss it all back when we weren't  winning.


Neither one of us mentioned the county game in regards to when players drop out.

You said 'tragedy', about Dublin players dropping out.  If that isn't expressing an opinion, then I give up.  Maybe English isn't your first language?

 

There's lots of good arguments to be had about Dublin's advantages, but this one--players losing out-- is just disingenuous.

Ah here, I did say to discuss the match based on footballing ability. ;) I expect Mayo to name their starting 15 tonight sometime. We'll see exactly what's on Horan's mind then. I'd be happy enough to see what Horan described in his first coming as consistently competitive. If we can compete on Saturday night, then that'll do me.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Lar Naparka on February 21, 2019, 02:59:07 PM

Here's what you said, Lar:

How many Dublin club players drop out of the game before they would wish because of the lack of opportunity to advance to at least one higher level?
IMO, that's the real tragedy.

Here's what I said back:

All this concern for Dublin players who drop out because of sheer numbers is very touching.  Not sure how I managed to miss it all back when we weren't  winning.


Neither one of us mentioned the county game in regards to when players drop out.

You said 'tragedy', about Dublin players dropping out.  If that isn't expressing an opinion, then I give up.  Maybe English isn't your first language?

 

There's lots of good arguments to be had about Dublin's advantages, but this one--players losing out-- is just disingenuous.
You are dead right; I did express a fairly definite opinion but that was in the post you replied to and your response missed my points completely. When you said “Not sure how I managed to miss it all back when we weren't  winning,” I gave up.
I thought I had gone to sufficient lengths to say what would happen if Dublin was split into its constituent counties and the benefits in player involvement that would mean to the GAA. I was careful to avoid saying I was sorry for anyone- either Dublin players or the rest of the country.
I thought I was using elementary maths and that there was no scope for error i n my conclusions. Of all culchies on this board, I have emphasised again and again that I have no time for moaning about Dublin’s share of the development funding or any other advantages Dublin have, some real and some imagined, over all others.
The place to do this is at county board level. I also believe that it is unrealistic to expect Dublin to cede anything- turkeys don’t vote for Christmas and all that….
I don’t have concern for DUblin players losing out and never said I had --I was just giving figureds and it’s up to everyone else to draw their own conclusions.
However, on the personal front, concentrating on quality at the expense f quantity is the opposite of everything I believe in and this is definitely what club football in Dublin is designed for.
I am coming from a background of decades of involvement with primary schools’ football in Dublin and I have had first hand experience of what I am talking about. Talking about great things to come as GDO coaches go out to entice kids to get involved in GAA activities is like trying to teach yer granny to suck eggs. It’s well intentioned but extremely naive. If teachers on the ground in every boys’ school in Dublin couldn’t manage to widen the playing base, then what’s the odds that outsiders can succeed where the likes of me failed.
I mentioned before about the time my sixth class felt Gah was a pansy's game and they could bate the socks off any team they’d take on. A few played for the school team but most hadn’t a clue about the game and cared even less either..
However with a few basic ground rules, they were ready to take on all comers.
In short, they plastered the other sixth class, then the school team and every other school in the parish that accepted the challenge. Then they wanted to have a go at the Isles u-12s and no bother to my gang, they knew sweet damn all about packed defences or playing sweepers or that sort of stuff.
They played for the sheer enjoyment and the fun of playing with their pals and every single one of the 30 in the class had some part to play, if you’ll pardon the pun. They were fast running out of opposition as the end of the school year was coming up so I asked the manager of the Whitehall club to accept  a challenge. We knocked the smirk off his face without a bother!
They were playing with their pales and they knew and trusted their manager and they played for the sheer fun of it. Not a single one opted to play football with Isles or any other Gaelic club after they finished primary school and if I couldn’t persuade anyone to stay at the game, I don’t fancy the odds of any outsider doing better.There was a strong bond of friendship and trust between everyone and playing the game was played for the right reasons.
Now, when I say I see problems with the way the GDO system is organised, I am speaking from experience. Furthermore when I talk about Dublin losing its market share of the player and spectator market, I am not talking about bums on seats in Croker.
If you go by census returns, ( here I go again!) the population of Dublin increased by 21% over a 20 year period from 1996 to 2016. Has the numbers playing increased by the same amount? Has the numbers involved at club level increased by 21% either?
If the senior side wasn’t grabbing the highlights now, there’s be a lot less than there was 20 years ago.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 21, 2019, 07:44:21 PM
Six changes to the Mayo team published for Saturday night but will that team start as selected?

1. Rob Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis(C)
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fionn McDonagh - Westport
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
12. Ciaran Treacy - Ballina Stephenites
13. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: thejuice on February 21, 2019, 08:29:26 PM
A strong side for mayo. Definitely looking to get an elusive win against the Dubs and sink their league hopes in the process. Still give Dublin the edge as they’re getting back to full fitness but without Clinton and the injured lads they’re vulnerable.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 21, 2019, 08:43:43 PM
Six changes to the Mayo team published for Saturday night but will that team start as selected?

1. Rob Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis(C)
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fionn McDonagh - Westport
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
12. Ciaran Treacy - Ballina Stephenites
13. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole

Happy enough with that team. Should have a cut at the Dubs at least.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on February 21, 2019, 08:52:22 PM
Surprised Diarmuid and Kevin McLoughlin aren't there assuming they're fit? I would have kept Michael Plunkett at centre half back as well.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 21, 2019, 09:37:28 PM
Six changes to the Mayo team published for Saturday night but will that team start as selected?

1. Rob Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis(C)
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fionn McDonagh - Westport
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
12. Ciaran Treacy - Ballina Stephenites
13. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole

Interesting team and I hope Caff can prove me wrong again as he did against Cavan as I thought he was finished at this level because of injuries.
I hope Hennelly can prove me wrong because I am always worried with him in the team! He just seems to have a fatal mistake in his locker every big game when the pressure is on and I think his kickouts are stylish looking but overrated!! I don't care that Clarkie's kickouts look like he hits them with a shovel, they tend to get to the man in Green and Red more often than not!
Will be watching how Ruane goes in the middle and I am really looking forward to how McDonagh, Reap and Treacy get on in the wide open spaces of Croker!!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: macdanger2 on February 21, 2019, 11:02:31 PM
Decent enough team named but I think we will struggle in this one, the dubs have their holiday well out of their system by now and rarely lose at home. We have nothing to match Fenton/Howard in the middle even without cluxton to supply them. Hope I'm wrong but I can see us losing by 5-8 points
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on February 21, 2019, 11:03:06 PM
Six changes to the Mayo team published for Saturday night but will that team start as selected?

1. Rob Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis(C)
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fionn McDonagh - Westport
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
12. Ciaran Treacy - Ballina Stephenites
13. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole

Interesting team and I hope Caff can prove me wrong again as he did against Cavan as I thought he was finished at this level because of injuries.
I hope Hennelly can prove me wrong because I am always worried with him in the team! He just seems to have a fatal mistake in his locker every big game when the pressure is on and I think his kickouts are stylish looking but overrated!! I don't care that Clarkie's kickouts look like he hits them with a shovel, they tend to get to the man in Green and Red more often than not!
Will be watching how Ruane goes in the middle and I am really looking forward to how McDonagh, Reap and Treacy get on in the wide open spaces of Croker!!!

Yeah. Be interesting to see how this goes.

On the goalkeeping thing, I'd say Horan is trading off Hennelly's gaffs against maybe better control of games with kick-outs and the long range frees. He's probably also hoping that with experience Bob might not make any more clangers!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Never beat the deeler on February 21, 2019, 11:10:29 PM
Surprised Diarmuid and Kevin McLoughlin aren't there assuming they're fit? I would have kept Michael Plunkett at centre half back as well.

Surely Horan will still have his customary 2-3 changes before throw-in
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 22, 2019, 12:03:58 AM
Surprised Diarmuid and Kevin McLoughlin aren't there assuming they're fit? I would have kept Michael Plunkett at centre half back as well.

Surely Horan will still have his customary 2-3 changes before throw-in

Ya Horan is well known for that at this stage and I'll be surprised if he starts 4 inexperienced players against Dublin in Croke Park.

Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Lar Naparka on February 22, 2019, 12:13:47 AM
Surprised Diarmuid and Kevin McLoughlin aren't there assuming they're fit? I would have kept Michael Plunkett at centre half back as well.

Surely Horan will still have his customary 2-3 changes before throw-in
He probably will and I still don't see why he should persist with this as there are few changes he could make anyway. On the positive side, he seems to be happy with the progress of the four relative newcomers.
All of them appear to be made of the right stuff too and, for the first time in years, Mayo appear to have some serious new talent emerging. Hope they keep up the good work!
Interesting also that none of them are backs.  Good forwards and hen's teeth are about equal in number when scarcity is mentioned.  I'd expect the Dubs to win once again but it's  really hard to predict what Mayo are capable of.
The backs are the old reliables but age may be a problem here. The same applies to Donie at midfield. So we will be heavily dependent on the forward, some old and some new, very new.
Hope Bob can avoid his customary clanger. I tend to keep the cheeks of me arse clenched from start to finish whenever he plays.  ;D
Arra, we will just have to wait and see...
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Crete Boom on February 22, 2019, 12:24:50 AM
Six changes to the Mayo team published for Saturday night but will that team start as selected?

1. Rob Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis(C)
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fionn McDonagh - Westport
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
12. Ciaran Treacy - Ballina Stephenites
13. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole

Interesting team and I hope Caff can prove me wrong again as he did against Cavan as I thought he was finished at this level because of injuries.
I hope Hennelly can prove me wrong because I am always worried with him in the team! He just seems to have a fatal mistake in his locker every big game when the pressure is on and I think his kickouts are stylish looking but overrated!! I don't care that Clarkie's kickouts look like he hits them with a shovel, they tend to get to the man in Green and Red more often than not!
Will be watching how Ruane goes in the middle and I am really looking forward to how McDonagh, Reap and Treacy get on in the wide open spaces of Croker!!!

Yeah. Be interesting to see how this goes.

On the goalkeeping thing, I'd say Horan is trading off Hennelly's gaffs against maybe better control of games with kick-outs and the long range frees. He's probably also hoping that with experience Bob might not make any more clangers!

I understand the logic Moy but honestly  I think his kickouts are way overrated and so far in clutch situations he has crumbled a lot going back to minor!! I am thinking  back to Dublin 2013, Kerry 2014, Dublin replay 2015 & 2016!! All those days when the pressure was on his kickouts went south and I am not talking about one or two missed kickouts either!! Then he is soo vulnerable under the high ball too!!
The key for me is Clarkie hit a terrible kickout straight to Diarmuid  Connolly in 2016 the first day and bang a point the dubs go two ahead with 70 on the clock!! 3 mins later Connolly hits a wide and Clarkie threads the ball out on the 45 to a Mayoman with the Dubs pressed right up, pressure on All Ireland on the line and he finds his man which results in the equalising point!! Clarke misses pressure kickouts but he recovers Robbie unfortunately tightens up and regresses with pressure and teams all know that!! Robbies free are average enough and I wonder what his hit rate is? If I had to guess I would say it is 40%!! If Clarkie is done cause Horan can't  live with his kickouts then I would have rather seen O'Malley or Flanagan get a shot!!
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: moysider on February 22, 2019, 12:54:19 AM
Six changes to the Mayo team published for Saturday night but will that team start as selected?

1. Rob Hennelly - Breaffy
2. Brendan Harrison - Aghamore
3. Ger Cafferkey - Ballina Stephenites
4. Keith Higgins - Ballyhaunis(C)
5. Lee Keegan - Westport
6. Colm Boyle - Davitts
7. Paddy Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
8. Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
9. Donal Vaughan - Castlebar Mitchels
10. Fionn McDonagh - Westport
11. Aidan O’Shea - Breaffy
12. Ciaran Treacy - Ballina Stephenites
13. Andy Moran - Ballaghaderreen
14. Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
15. Jason Doherty - Burrishoole

Interesting team and I hope Caff can prove me wrong again as he did against Cavan as I thought he was finished at this level because of injuries.
I hope Hennelly can prove me wrong because I am always worried with him in the team! He just seems to have a fatal mistake in his locker every big game when the pressure is on and I think his kickouts are stylish looking but overrated!! I don't care that Clarkie's kickouts look like he hits them with a shovel, they tend to get to the man in Green and Red more often than not!
Will be watching how Ruane goes in the middle and I am really looking forward to how McDonagh, Reap and Treacy get on in the wide open spaces of Croker!!!

Yeah. Be interesting to see how this goes.

On the goalkeeping thing, I'd say Horan is trading off Hennelly's gaffs against maybe better control of games with kick-outs and the long range frees. He's probably also hoping that with experience Bob might not make any more clangers!

I understand the logic Moy but honestly  I think his kickouts are way overrated and so far in clutch situations he has crumbled a lot going back to minor!! I am thinking  back to Dublin 2013, Kerry 2014, Dublin replay 2015 & 2016!! All those days when the pressure was on his kickouts went south and I am not talking about one or two missed kickouts either!! Then he is soo vulnerable under the high ball too!!
The key for me is Clarkie hit a terrible kickout straight to Diarmuid  Connolly in 2016 the first day and bang a point the dubs go two ahead with 70 on the clock!! 3 mins later Connolly hits a wide and Clarkie threads the ball out on the 45 to a Mayoman with the Dubs pressed right up, pressure on All Ireland on the line and he finds his man which results in the equalising point!! Clarke misses pressure kickouts but he recovers Robbie unfortunately tightens up and regresses with pressure and teams all know that!! Robbies free are average enough and I wonder what his hit rate is? If I had to guess I would say it is 40%!! If Clarkie is done cause Horan can't  live with his kickouts then I would have rather seen O'Malley or Flanagan get a shot!!

 Or Schlingermann? Unless he's been signed up by Boca Junior or something!
Look Crete, you don't need to explain it to me at all. Horan is going down this road though and he has seen what we all have seen. He's calling it. Not sure I would call it that way, but he is the man.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheGreatest on February 22, 2019, 10:30:28 AM
I am sure the Mayo men would love a win here. 13 attempts an no wins, a poor return.

No matter the result, its arse boxing, only thing that matters is the super 8s onwards.

Hopefully an entertaining attacking game, which it usually is.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: MayoBuck on February 22, 2019, 10:41:07 AM
I am sure the Mayo men would love a win here. 13 attempts an no wins, a poor return.

No matter the result, its arse boxing, only thing that matters is the super 8s onwards.

Hopefully an entertaining attacking game, which it usually is.

Maybe for Dublin and Kerry. The provincial championships mean a lot to other counties.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 22, 2019, 11:22:01 AM
In Connacht and Ulster.
Meanwhile sadly Kerry and Dublin sleepwalk through a series of Challenge games officially titled as Munster and Leinster Championships.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: TheGreatest on February 22, 2019, 11:27:31 AM
I am sure the Mayo men would love a win here. 13 attempts an no wins, a poor return.

No matter the result, its arse boxing, only thing that matters is the super 8s onwards.

Hopefully an entertaining attacking game, which it usually is.

Maybe for Dublin and Kerry. The provincial championships mean a lot to other counties.

That's what I meant, from a Dublin fan perspective anyway, the league is more important, enjoyable and competitive than Leinster.

If Mayo win, it only benefits Dublin later in the year, more sting in the tail.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: rosnarun on February 22, 2019, 11:46:06 AM
In Connacht and Ulster.
Meanwhile sadly Kerry and Dublin sleepwalk through a series of Challenge games officially titled as Munster and Leinster Championships.
there are a lot of counties in leinster who would love a Provinciall title at this stage
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 22, 2019, 11:52:53 AM
I am sure the Mayo men would love a win here. 13 attempts an no wins, a poor return.

No matter the result, its arse boxing, only thing that matters is the super 8s onwards.

Hopefully an entertaining attacking game, which it usually is.

It probably goes to show how over rated this Mayo team are/were having had such a long losing streak.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 22, 2019, 01:36:28 PM
Massive game for Cavan on Sunday. If we are to have any chink of light to escape relegation we have to do what we have really struggled to do in the last number of years and beat Roscommon. Good news is Gerry Smith is likely to play some part, probably the best player on any of those U21 teams but who hasnt really had a consistent run at senior. Gearoid McKiernan and Caoimhin O Reilly back training too after injury. We've put in respectable enough performances for 30 mins in each of our 1st 3 matches, now its time to really go for it. I hope it is in them to do that.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: seafoid on February 22, 2019, 01:50:27 PM
Massive game for Cavan on Sunday. If we are to have any chink of light to escape relegation we have to do what we have really struggled to do in the last number of years and beat Roscommon. Good news is Gerry Smith is likely to play some part, probably the best player on any of those U21 teams but who hasnt really had a consistent run at senior. Gearoid McKiernan and Caoimhin O Reilly back training too after injury. We've put in respectable enough performances for 30 mins in each of our 1st 3 matches, now its time to really go for it. I hope it is in them to do that.
And you have the full attention of the manager for this first time
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Itchy on February 22, 2019, 02:28:28 PM
Massive game for Cavan on Sunday. If we are to have any chink of light to escape relegation we have to do what we have really struggled to do in the last number of years and beat Roscommon. Good news is Gerry Smith is likely to play some part, probably the best player on any of those U21 teams but who hasnt really had a consistent run at senior. Gearoid McKiernan and Caoimhin O Reilly back training too after injury. We've put in respectable enough performances for 30 mins in each of our 1st 3 matches, now its time to really go for it. I hope it is in them to do that.
And you have the full attention of the manager for this first time

Ah I wouldn't use that as an excuse to be honest.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 22, 2019, 02:48:53 PM
I am sure the Mayo men would love a win here. 13 attempts an no wins, a poor return.

No matter the result, its arse boxing, only thing that matters is the super 8s onwards.

Hopefully an entertaining attacking game, which it usually is.

It probably goes to show how over rated this Mayo team are/were having had such a long losing streak.


Horan v Dublin

Played 7 won 2 lost 4 and 1 draw

Last meeting 2014 in Croke Park was a draw.

Mayo with ten same starters tomorrow maybe more if Mcloughlin starts.

Robbie Hennelly; Tom Cunniffe, Ger Cafferkey, Brendan Harrison; Lee Keegan, Donal Vaughan , Colm Boyle; Aidan O’Shea, Jason Gibbons; Kevin McLoughlin , Keith Higgins, Jason Doherty; Andy Moran, Alan Freeman, Cillian O’Connor.

The likes of Hennelly,Cafferkey seem to be his first choices regardless of fan opinion?

 
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: rosnarun on February 22, 2019, 04:10:38 PM
I am sure the Mayo men would love a win here. 13 attempts an no wins, a poor return.

No matter the result, its arse boxing, only thing that matters is the super 8s onwards.

Hopefully an entertaining attacking game, which it usually is.

It probably goes to show how over rated this Mayo team are/were having had such a long losing streak.


Horan v Dublin

Played 7 won 2 lost 4 and 1 draw

Last meeting 2014 in Croke Park was a draw.

Mayo with ten same starters tomorrow maybe more if Mcloughlin starts.

Robbie Hennelly; Tom Cunniffe, Ger Cafferkey, Brendan Harrison; Lee Keegan, Donal Vaughan , Colm Boyle; Aidan O’Shea, Jason Gibbons; Kevin McLoughlin , Keith Higgins, Jason Doherty; Andy Moran, Alan Freeman, Cillian O’Connor.

The likes of Hennelly,Cafferkey seem to be his first choices regardless of fan opinion?

 
not sure they are 1st choice but they have put their names in the ring and are playing for their place as are boyle  Harrison and maybe any Moran esp as a starter when mclouglin and Cillian and parsons/seamie o sé ( allowing diarmaid go forward ) come back some will have to be left out .
shame if it weas just the new lads
like wise in the full back line Chris barret and Eoin o Donoghue will be gunning for places
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Rossfan on February 22, 2019, 06:40:09 PM
Liking forward to Sunday's trip to Breifne.
Hoping we can keep up our good record of recent times v these bucks......but they must be due a win against us soon.
Hopefully not Sunday and that we'll almost secure another year in Div 1.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 22, 2019, 08:58:56 PM
Kerry team for the trip to Tuam.

Shane Ryan
Peter Crowley
Jack Sherwood
Shane Enright
Gavin Crowley
Paul Murphy
Tom O'Sullivan
Jack Barry
Mark Griffin
Diarmuid O'Connor
Sean O'Shea
Gavin O'Brien
Dara Moynihan
Tommy Walsh
Stephen O'Brien.

Subs: Brian Kelly, Jonathan Lyne, Michael Geaney, Tadhg Morley, Kevin McCarthy, Graham O'Sullivan, Conor Geaney, Tomas O Se, Jason Foley, Killian Spillane, Denis Daly.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 22, 2019, 09:39:07 PM
Galway team. Strong rumours going around that a few Corofin players will start so changes expected before throw in.

1 Ruairi Lavelle
2 Eoghan Kerin
3 Jonny Duane
4 David Wynne
5 Gary O’Donnell
6 Gareth Bradshaw
7 Johnny Heaney
8 Thomas Flynn
9 Ciaran Duggan
10 Shane Walsh
11 Peter Cooke
12 Sean Kelly
13 Padraig Cunningham
14 Cein D’Arcy
15 Antaine O’Laoi
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on February 22, 2019, 10:50:18 PM
There's been changes to every Galway starting 15 named in the league so far, whether the Corofin lads are available or not I expect that it'll be the same on Sunday.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on February 23, 2019, 03:38:57 AM
There's been changes to every Galway starting 15 named in the league so far, whether the Corofin lads are available or not I expect that it'll be the same on Sunday.

Bit of a joke really. No way that team takes the field I imagine.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 23, 2019, 12:11:02 PM
Any sign of a Dublin panel for us who aren't attending later on?
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on February 23, 2019, 12:54:11 PM
There's been changes to every Galway starting 15 named in the league so far, whether the Corofin lads are available or not I expect that it'll be the same on Sunday.
It depends on who is available I think.
Would have thought both Daly’s will start though regardless unless they are carrying an injury.
That fullback line would give you nightmares 🙈
Duane didn’t play fb the last day though despite wearing number 3.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: spuds on February 23, 2019, 01:03:31 PM
Galway team. Strong rumours going around that a few Corofin players will start so changes expected before throw in.

1 Ruairi Lavelle
2 Eoghan Kerin
3 Jonny Duane
4 David Wynne
5 Gary O’Donnell
6 Gareth Bradshaw
7 Johnny Heaney
8 Thomas Flynn
9 Ciaran Duggan
10 Shane Walsh
11 Peter Cooke
12 Sean Kelly
13 Padraig Cunningham
14 Cein D’Arcy
15 Antaine O’Laoi
Be interesting to see who will pick up Tommy Walsh if he starts at 14. See David Cunnane replaced Seán Andy v Dublin but looks bit off county standard.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: galwayman on February 23, 2019, 01:07:39 PM
Galway team. Strong rumours going around that a few Corofin players will start so changes expected before throw in.

1 Ruairi Lavelle
2 Eoghan Kerin
3 Jonny Duane
4 David Wynne
5 Gary O’Donnell
6 Gareth Bradshaw
7 Johnny Heaney
8 Thomas Flynn
9 Ciaran Duggan
10 Shane Walsh
11 Peter Cooke
12 Sean Kelly
13 Padraig Cunningham
14 Cein D’Arcy
15 Antaine O’Laoi
Be interesting to see who will pick up Tommy Walsh if he starts at 14. See David Cunnane replaced Seán Andy v Dublin but looks bit off county standard.
Yeah we wouldn’t be overflowing with big strong backs for sure.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 23, 2019, 02:56:21 PM
I am sure the Mayo men would love a win here. 13 attempts an no wins, a poor return.

No matter the result, its arse boxing, only thing that matters is the super 8s onwards.

Hopefully an entertaining attacking game, which it usually is.

It probably goes to show how over rated this Mayo team are/were having had such a long losing streak.


Horan v Dublin

Played 7 won 2 lost 4 and 1 draw

Last meeting 2014 in Croke Park was a draw.

Mayo with ten same starters tomorrow maybe more if Mcloughlin starts.

Robbie Hennelly; Tom Cunniffe, Ger Cafferkey, Brendan Harrison; Lee Keegan, Donal Vaughan , Colm Boyle; Aidan O’Shea, Jason Gibbons; Kevin McLoughlin , Keith Higgins, Jason Doherty; Andy Moran, Alan Freeman, Cillian O’Connor.

The likes of Hennelly,Cafferkey seem to be his first choices regardless of fan opinion?

God, you are harking back to results that are 5 years or older. And the best you can come up with is a draw.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 23, 2019, 02:58:52 PM
Dublin team named and probably won't start as selected.

Evan Comerford
David Byrne
Mick Fitzsimons
Eoin Murchan
James McCarthy
Jonny Cooper
Jack McCaffrey
Brian Fenton
Darren Gavin
Brian Howard
Cormac Costello
Niall Scully
Paul Mannion
Dean Rock
Con O'Callaghan
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 23, 2019, 03:04:07 PM
God, you are harking back to results that are 5 years or older. And the best you can come up with is a draw.
Are you a bit lost? Its Horan's record against Dublin and the last meeting Horan had v Dublin ended in a draw in Croke Park.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 23, 2019, 04:10:17 PM
God, you are harking back to results that are 5 years or older. And the best you can come up with is a draw.
Are you a bit lost? Its Horan's record against Dublin and the last meeting Horan had v Dublin ended in a draw in Croke Park.

No, I'm not lost! You are referring to results that are 5 years or older. Half a decade against a more than likely an almost completely different Dublin team.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 23, 2019, 04:44:38 PM
God, you are harking back to results that are 5 years or older. And the best you can come up with is a draw.
Are you a bit lost? Its Horan's record against Dublin and the last meeting Horan had v Dublin ended in a draw in Croke Park.

No, I'm not lost! You are referring to results that are 5 years or older. Half a decade against a more than likely an almost completely different Dublin team.

I was referring to Horan's results against Dublin and that tonights Mayo team contains 10 same starters from the 2014 game. If Mayo win tonight, Horan will adjust his cap and likely say to the media lookit i have beaten Dublin before and move on to talking up the new/young players.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: From the Bunker on February 23, 2019, 04:53:35 PM
God, you are harking back to results that are 5 years or older. And the best you can come up with is a draw.
Are you a bit lost? Its Horan's record against Dublin and the last meeting Horan had v Dublin ended in a draw in Croke Park.

No, I'm not lost! You are referring to results that are 5 years or older. Half a decade against a more than likely an almost completely different Dublin team.

I was referring to Horan's results against Dublin and that tonights Mayo team contains 10 same starters from the 2014 game. If Mayo win tonight, Horan will adjust his cap and likely say to the media lookit i have beaten Dublin before and move on to talking up the new/young players.

Fair enough.
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: Blowitupref on February 23, 2019, 05:31:35 PM
Mayo bench for tonight according to the program.

D Clarke
C Barrett
D Drake
M Plunkett
J McCormack
S Coen
J Kelly
S O Shea
F Boland
K McLoughlin
C Loftus
Title: Re: NFL Division 1 2019 Dubs again?
Post by: highorlow on February 23, 2019, 06:27:31 PM
Time to put down a marker.

We will do it by 3