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Title: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on September 06, 2018, 12:26:09 AM
Here are our games in the 2019 League Division 3.


2019 Allianz Football League Provisional Fixtures

Round 1
Saturday 26 January
(7.0): Down v Westmeath
Sunday 27 January
(2.0): Carlow v Sligo
(2.0): Offaly v Laois
TBC Louth v Longford

Round 2
Saturday 2 February
(7.0): Laois v Carlow
Sunday 3 February
2.0): Longford v Offaly
(2.0): Sligo v Down
(2.0): Westmeath v Louth

Round 3
Saturday 9 February
(7.0): Down v Laois
Sunday 10 February
(2.0): Carlow v Longford
(2.0): Offaly v Louth
(2.0): Westmeath v Sligo

Round 4
Saturday 23 February
(7.0): Laois v Westmeath
Sunday 24 February
(2.0): Longford v Down
TBC Louth v Sligo
TBC Offaly v Carlow

Round 5
Saturday 2 March
(7.0): Carlow v Louth
(7.0): Down v Offaly
Sunday 3 March
(2.0): Sligo v Laois
TBC Westmeath v Longford

Round 6
Saturday 16 March
(2.0): Carlow v Down
(2.0): Longford v Sligo
(2.0): Louth v Laois
(2.0): Offaly v Westmeath

Round 7
Sunday 24 March
(2.0): Down v Louth
(2.0): Laois v Longford
(2.0): Sligo v Offaly
(2.0): Westmeath v Carlow

Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League
Post by: Laois Rising on September 06, 2018, 11:05:41 AM
Down away is not ideal but looking at the draw we should be there or there about come end of league for promotion. You would be hopeful that the team can kick on again next year.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League
Post by: Butch Cassidy on September 06, 2018, 12:08:06 PM
Sligo away going to replace the famous London trip?

No reason why we can't target promotion. Hopefully Sugrue can add a few players from the club championship
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League
Post by: Chrimtain on September 06, 2018, 01:58:24 PM
Some interesting names that might come to the fore during the O'Byrne Cup and League.

https://www.laoistoday.ie/2018/09/06/25-footballers-who-could-boost-the-laois-senior-football-panel/

Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: recyclebin on September 07, 2018, 10:54:50 AM
Lots of local derbies, 6 Leinster teams in the division. Would love if Laois could get back to back promotions.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Chrimtain on September 07, 2018, 12:01:28 PM
I think promotion will be difficult for Laois. The opener against Offaly, under their new manager, is going to be tough for a start.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on September 07, 2018, 04:10:48 PM
I think the Down, Longford and Westmeath games will be the hardest to win and we have two of those at home.

Sligo away will not be easy and Carlow will come looking for some sort of revenge for last year but I think we are probably the strongest team in the group and should be pushing hard for promotion..
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on September 07, 2018, 05:31:20 PM
It'll be a very competitive League, there wont be much in terms of quality difference between 2nd and 6th. The aim should be for promotion but it wont be a disaster if we stay up in Div 3. Sugrue made leaps and bounds progress in 2018 so it'll be very interesting to see what we can do next year. Would love to see a lot of new faces, as well as the likes of Healy, Merideth and Keogh back to strenghten our backline options. It'll be great to see Sean Moore involved, if he's suitable next year. In fairness, he was quite slight but he has bulked up somewhat. 4 or 5 teams can realistically get promotion; Carlow, Down, Laois are probably the 3 strongest teams on paper but it'll certainly be tight. The difference will be in the preparation this winter.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Chrimtain on September 07, 2018, 05:50:32 PM
Underestimate Offaly at your peril.........especially under Maughan.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on September 11, 2018, 12:57:31 AM
The county Committee have ratified John Sugrue as Senior Football Manager for 2019 his selectors will be put forward at next meeting.
Also Ratified was Billy O Loughlin as u20 Manager and his selectors are Billy Delaney Stradbally and Liam Brophy St Josephís , Tommy Byrne Coach.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on September 11, 2018, 09:35:14 AM
Underestimate Offaly at your peril.........especially under Maughan.

Meh
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Laoiseabu on November 08, 2018, 12:28:00 PM
I see weíve lost home advantage for one of our league Games next year for a ď breach of training camp rulesĒ. That means 5 away , 2 at home I think
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on November 08, 2018, 12:41:02 PM
Load of shite in fairness. That a central body can tell you when it's ok to train. Load of shite. That they can place a ban on some counties when everyone is at it. Load of shite. That they somehow differentiate between training as a group and training as an individual. Another load of shite. The GAA heads live in a fantasy world. The modern GAA player can't afford to take time off properly if he wants to retain a certain level of fitness. They want the GAA and its players to be the best that they can be and pride themselves on the fact that this is voluntary and for the love of the sport. Then they go placing bans on lads who want to make themselves more competitive. I'd give the opposing team a walkover and throw the whole thing into chaos. Pure and utter shite
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on November 08, 2018, 12:47:57 PM
The Dubs went on an historical outing. Be clear now, it was an historical outing. Philly McMahon will bring out a book about the trip any day now, explaining about how it affected him deeply, almost as deeply as his brothers heroin addiction. Did you know Phillys brother was an addict? You may not have, he doesn't like to talk about it all that much. But yea, his brother died from drug addiction. True story. Not many people know about it.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Catch and Kick on November 08, 2018, 01:52:15 PM
The Dubs went on an historical outing. Be clear now, it was an historical outing. Philly McMahon will bring out a book about the trip any day now, explaining about how it affected him deeply, almost as deeply as his brothers heroin addiction. Did you know Phillys brother was an addict? You may not have, he doesn't like to talk about it all that much. But yea, his brother died from drug addiction. True story. Not many people know about it.

That is truly pathetic. You should delete this post.

Agree 100% about this unfair punishment. a small number of counties are being punished while there were numerous counties who had training camps. For Dublin to be declared innocent is hard to take.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on November 08, 2018, 01:53:31 PM
The Dubs went on an historical outing. Be clear now, it was an historical outing. Philly McMahon will bring out a book about the trip any day now, explaining about how it affected him deeply, almost as deeply as his brothers heroin addiction. Did you know Phillys brother was an addict? You may not have, he doesn't like to talk about it all that much. But yea, his brother died from drug addiction. True story. Not many people know about it.

That is truly pathetic. You should delete this post.

Agree 100% about this unfair punishment. a small number of counties are being punished while there were numerous counties who had training camps. For Dublin to be declared innocent is hard to take.
Did you know?
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: HURLING1 on November 08, 2018, 03:00:31 PM
Don. You should delete that rubbish.
Loads of families scourged by illegal drugs.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Giovanni on November 08, 2018, 03:18:05 PM
I'm sure this has nothing whatsoever to do with the money that the GAA would lose if Dublin lost a home game.

High Fielder is right. It's a load of shite. Not only is it a kick in the hole for the players, but it's a kick in the hole for the supporters who will be out of pocket as a result.

If the GAA treated everyone equally, it would be easier to take (even though it is still a load of shite). The treatment of the Laois' and Wexfords of this world is totally out of order. They should fight this to the very end, preferably all 4 counties joning together to do so. 
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: clonadmad on November 08, 2018, 04:45:59 PM
The Dubs went on an historical outing. Be clear now, it was an historical outing. Philly McMahon will bring out a book about the trip any day now, explaining about how it affected him deeply, almost as deeply as his brothers heroin addiction. Did you know Phillys brother was an addict? You may not have, he doesn't like to talk about it all that much. But yea, his brother died from drug addiction. True story. Not many people know about it.

Mocking a family that lost a son to heroin addiction?.

mocking a player that spends 2 days of the week free of charge,helping prisoners in mountjoy to break the cycle of incarceration,who works with young people at risk of drugs and gangs?.

You really are a bit of a p***k arenít you?
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Jd on November 08, 2018, 05:07:51 PM
I like philly he's  an absolute  thug on the field but comes across  as a decent  fella.....  to mock him like  that is wrong.  Walk a day in his shoes  and you'd see what devastation heroin addiction causes.  If it was a chap from your local village would you be as quick to mock him or would  you  do it to his face.......  Doubt it very  much !!!
With  regards to the punishment look who was banned,  small counties  in the lower leagues yet the dubs can do what they like. Not a word on mainstream  media but if it was a big team it would be all over the papers, news and online news sites......  Laois doesn't  matter in the greater scheme of things
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Catch and Kick on November 08, 2018, 10:46:18 PM
The GAA has long ago stopped treating counties equally or fairly. But in the past  decade the focus is on the top 8 teams both by Croker and the media. Competition structures favour the super powers. Its going to get worse with a B Championship. Wont work long term.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on November 08, 2018, 11:17:47 PM
It's time for our CB to stand up for the county; the players in particular. The GAA have fucked us about in the last few years and clearly don't give a fiddlers about us. They are a seriously deluded bunch who have no regard for the effort being made in Laois or elsewhere. They need to be told to f**k off and stop putting barriers in our way. It's hard enough getting lads to play and supporters to pay in an era when quite frankly, there is little to entice counties like Laois. A real sickener.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: GAA-SMART on November 09, 2018, 01:44:34 PM
The problem is here- the GAA can't take a Dublin home game away because it shines a very public light on the fact Dublin own Croke Park and they do not want that debate. The GAA cant tell Dublin they loose a game in Parnell Park because they will look like fools and they cant take a Croke Park game because Dublin will say well thats not our Home Ground. This is the result of what you get when you allow a county dow hat they want, when they want and give them millions in the process.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Giovanni on November 09, 2018, 04:15:18 PM
Is there really a debate about whether or not Croke Park is Dublin's home ground? They play their home fixtures there and if they were to be treated like everyone else, they'd have to play in a neutral venue. I don't know - maybe it's because it's an amateur association that money is so important in their decision-making but they really are losing the public with this carry on I think.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Unlaoised on November 12, 2018, 04:53:21 AM
If for example they fixed the carlow game for newbridge or the westmeath game for o connor park ..

Id be inclined for sugrue to make a Portlaoise or nowhere stance and put the gaa underpressure thus getting the whole county behind him and getting the Laois people's gander up so to speak it would only work wonders for the spirit he has already created within  the camp.and the support who are starting to come back out in numbers ..

f**k the Gaa

LAOIS ARE ON THE UP
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on November 12, 2018, 08:06:44 PM
The Dubs went on an historical outing. Be clear now, it was an historical outing. Philly McMahon will bring out a book about the trip any day now, explaining about how it affected him deeply, almost as deeply as his brothers heroin addiction. Did you know Phillys brother was an addict? You may not have, he doesn't like to talk about it all that much. But yea, his brother died from drug addiction. True story. Not many people know about it.
terrible stupid post. says way more about the anon poster than anything else.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on November 14, 2018, 03:08:51 PM
We lost our appeal, only two home games for us in the league
http://hoganstand.com/Laois/article/index/292579?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: SCFC on November 14, 2018, 03:26:23 PM
We lost our appeal, only two home games for us in the league
http://hoganstand.com/Laois/article/index/292579?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
This is lousy. Really unfair.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on November 14, 2018, 03:53:08 PM
We lost our appeal, only two home games for us in the league
http://hoganstand.com/Laois/article/index/292579?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
This is lousy. Really unfair.
COE wont pay for itself lads.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: O moore parklife on November 14, 2018, 04:17:34 PM
Word has it the wexford hurlers won the appeal as they said it was a team holiday not training camp.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Giovanni on November 14, 2018, 04:23:09 PM
I don't understand this at all. If the reason for this ban was to ensure the integrity of the clubs only rule, how in the name of Christ does it matter if the team went on a trip to see World War I graves in Belgium or kicked a bit of football in Kerry?? Either way, they are not available to their clubs. This just seems completely ridiculous to me.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: blueandwhite1 on November 14, 2018, 04:34:16 PM
I don't understand this at all. If the reason for this ban was to ensure the integrity of the clubs only rule, how in the name of Christ does it matter if the team went on a trip to see World War I graves in Belgium or kicked a bit of football in Kerry?? Either way, they are not available to their clubs. This just seems completely ridiculous to me.

The difference is Dublin have a very powerful county board and all the money in the world to afford lawyers if they need to.

We in Laois are irrelevant to the GAA.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Giovanni on November 14, 2018, 04:40:10 PM
Seems like Dublin knew exactly what they were doing from the start:

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/how-dublins-footballers-found-inspiration-and-perspective-in-the-green-fields-of-france-866047.html

Not what we'd be used to on a Thursday night indeed..........
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on November 14, 2018, 04:45:06 PM
I don't understand this at all. If the reason for this ban was to ensure the integrity of the clubs only rule, how in the name of Christ does it matter if the team went on a trip to see World War I graves in Belgium or kicked a bit of football in Kerry?? Either way, they are not available to their clubs. This just seems completely ridiculous to me.

The difference is Dublin have a very powerful county board and all the money in the world to afford lawyers if they need to.

We in Laois are irrelevant to the GAA.
Again, we're not irrelevant, as they are flowing money into the county in the form of the COE.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Giovanni on November 14, 2018, 04:54:49 PM
What is the connection between the COE and this decision to remove a home game from Laois?
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on November 14, 2018, 05:20:17 PM
What is the connection between the COE and this decision to remove a home game from Laois?
Follow the money young man
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Giovanni on November 14, 2018, 06:19:18 PM
Could anyone please translate?
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on November 14, 2018, 07:37:27 PM
Don is suggesting that Croke Park are funding the COE and Laois are willing to take the rap on the knuckles for breaking the rule instead of rocking the boat and risk losing funding. Its politics.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on November 14, 2018, 08:09:34 PM
Don is suggesting that Croke Park are funding the COE and Laois are willing to take the rap on the knuckles for breaking the rule instead of rocking the boat and risk losing funding. Its politics.
Chinatown
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Giovanni on November 14, 2018, 08:26:59 PM
Don is suggesting that Croke Park are funding the COE and Laois are willing to take the rap on the knuckles for breaking the rule instead of rocking the boat and risk losing funding. Its politics.

Thanks for this and apologies for being slow on the uptake! Don might be right but if he is, itís really very disappointing. Conlethís Park wonít pay for itself either but that didnít stop Kildare making their point (and getting a lot of support for it). If it was really the case in Laois, youíd wonder why they bothered to appeal at all?
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Laoiseabu on November 14, 2018, 11:19:30 PM
Itís a f**king farce of a rule . The bullshit in the GAA these days is beyond a joke. Absolute cowboys of the highest echelons over the organisation. Itís about time they took their tongues out of Dublinís arses and stop treating smaller counties like horseshite . We need more support off the GAA than  Dublin but obviously they donít give a flying f**k about us 😡😡😡😡😡
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on November 15, 2018, 02:19:28 AM
It's all wrong but it's not a disaster. Our first home game was to be against Carlow   
Round 2
Saturday 2 February
(7.0): Laois v Carlow


So what if we have to go to Carlow to play them, we usually beat them down there and they have some happy memories of victory's in O'Moore Park, not against us but victory's all the same which makes O'Moore Park a good place for them.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on November 15, 2018, 07:59:30 AM
It's all wrong but it's not a disaster. Our first home game was to be against Carlow   
Round 2
Saturday 2 February
(7.0): Laois v Carlow


So what if we have to go to Carlow to play them, we usually beat them down there and they have some happy memories of victory's in O'Moore Park, not against us but victory's all the same which makes O'Moore Park a good place for them.
Exactly. The gravy keeps flowing and all we need to do is pop over the border and put Carlow over our knees again in an auld league match. Be grand. Chill the beans lads.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Giovanni on November 15, 2018, 08:49:30 AM
Firstly, I donít think itís established that itís the Carlow game that we lose and secondly the game is supposed to be held in a neutral venue - not in their home ground.

In any case, the issue for me is more about the unequal application of this (ridiculous) rule to different counties. How anyone can consider that to be ďgrandĒ is beyond me.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: GAA-SMART on November 15, 2018, 08:54:39 AM
Yeah Carlow shouldnt get home advantage because we broke a rule. Sure that would be unfair on every team in the competition. The rule itself is a grand rule if its enforced fairly which clearly it is not. The point above on Dublin Lawyers is relevent. Dublin have top guys working full time for them who can put the time and resources into working with lawyers and getting information together where we simply do not have that resource. The sad thing here is that again Dublin get away scott free while we are punished. I dont care where we play Carlow- can play them in the scottish highlands, if we are good enough we will win. O Moore park is hardly a fortress these times.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on November 15, 2018, 09:07:26 AM
Firstly, I donít think itís established that itís the Carlow game that we lose and secondly the game is supposed to be held in a neutral venue - not in their home ground.

In any case, the issue for me is more about the unequal application of this (ridiculous) rule to different counties. How anyone can consider that to be ďgrandĒ is beyond me.
Ah its not the end of the world. Britain is collapsing across the water, things could be worse.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Giovanni on November 15, 2018, 11:53:56 AM
https://www.laoistoday.ie/2018/11/15/john-sugrue-farcical-nature-of-ruling-against-us-as-gaa-create-culture-of-rule-bending/

This is the crux of it. Are we going to be honest in the application of this rule or not? Or are we just going to hit the eejits that haven't taken the care to buy a ticket for Daniel O Connell's birthplace.

I suppose we'll know better next time.......... Is that what they want?
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on November 16, 2018, 12:07:28 AM
And just to continue Dublin's run of good fortune...

Home comforts will continue on the double for Dubs next year
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/home-comforts-will-continue-on-the-double-for-dubs-next-year-37530481.html
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Jd on November 16, 2018, 07:53:37 AM
The thing about this is that Dublin  and their supporters  don't mind travelling  at all......  they love a day out.  These decisions  are purely  for  political  and economic reasons.  The hierarchy  could not give one fig about a level  playing field
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on November 16, 2018, 09:19:16 AM
We have a few new men on the management team..

https://www.laoistoday.ie/2018/11/16/revealed-laois-manager-sugrue-adds-two-coaches-to-backroom-team-for-new-season/
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Giovanni on November 16, 2018, 11:05:28 AM
And just to continue Dublin's run of good fortune...

Home comforts will continue on the double for Dubs next year
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/home-comforts-will-continue-on-the-double-for-dubs-next-year-37530481.html

Really don't understand how all the other counties, who are pumping hundreds of thousands into the preparation of their teams, are accepting this.

On the question of the removal of our home game, there is also an issue for all of the other teams in the Division. Only one team in the Division (the one who avoids having to travel to Portlaoise) will have obtained an advantage that the other teams have not been given. How can that be fair on all the other teams either. The whole thing is a total joke.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on November 16, 2018, 11:14:47 AM
https://www.laoistoday.ie/2018/11/15/john-sugrue-farcical-nature-of-ruling-against-us-as-gaa-create-culture-of-rule-bending/

This is the crux of it. Are we going to be honest in the application of this rule or not? Or are we just going to hit the eejits that haven't taken the care to buy a ticket for Daniel O Connell's birthplace.

I suppose we'll know better next time.......... Is that what they want?

They want the odd soft touch to roll over and have their belly tickled. It's sad to say but Don is right and it's stuff like the COE funding that makes us the teacher's pet. There are of course other behind the scenes political maneuverings that make anything that John Sugrue has to say irrelevant. It's sad to say and I don't like admitting it because I'm proud of the man and how he conducts himself. But in truth, he'd have been better off wring to Santa. It would have got more of a hearing at least.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Giovanni on November 16, 2018, 12:26:44 PM
Does anyone know how much CoE funding we get from HQ? Is this proportionately more than the amounts received by other counties for similar facilities? I don't know much about the finances but I don't think we're getting any special treatment from a financial point of view.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on November 16, 2018, 12:35:02 PM
Mistake number two Giovanni. Assuming everything afforded to Laois can be measured in the yearly accounts. I'll say no more
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on November 16, 2018, 02:42:24 PM
Mistake number two Giovanni. Assuming everything afforded to Laois can be measured in the yearly accounts. I'll say no more
+1
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Giovanni on November 16, 2018, 03:44:06 PM
Jesus! I'm sure you boys are closer to the administration of the GAA than I am but if it's really the case that HQ is not being transparent about the payments to various counties, then I'm afraid the future's not bright! So the CoE is being funded on a nod and a wink? Hard to credit that!
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on November 16, 2018, 04:47:39 PM
The politics of county boards and GAA Councils would make Brexit look like a tea party. The COE is a small cog in the wheel. The loss of home advantage another small cog. You just wouldn't know and probably wouldn't want to the full mechanics. Best just to suck it up and get on with it. This wheel is not for reinventing.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Giovanni on November 16, 2018, 05:42:39 PM
I saw from the Programmes in the last few months that they were looking for sponsors to support the CoE. I had intended to give them something this Xmas. I think I'll give it to the local soccer club instead. John Delaney seems like a paragon of virtue compared to this shit.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on November 16, 2018, 06:54:19 PM
I would never discourage anyone from giving towards our development. But you could argue, and you'd have a point, that taking away home games from our own supporters does nothing to develop football in the county. At the end of the day, lads were showing commitment to Laois, and because of a jumped up rule from an equally jumped up administration, we have been penalised. I don't understand it, and in many ways it does little for my interest in the game. The GAA should never discourage a county like Laois, and they should be ashamed of themselves for doing so.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Unlaoised on November 19, 2018, 12:27:27 PM
We will play Louth in Parnell park we will win it will be forgotton about we will move on
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on January 10, 2019, 02:15:59 AM
Sugrue confident his side are on track in preparation for Allianz National League opener




https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/01/08/sugrue-confident-his-side-are-on-track-in-allianz-national-league-preperation/
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: The PRO on January 11, 2019, 10:48:26 AM
Playing Louth in Croker. Curtain raiser to a ladies football game!  ::)
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Laois Rising on January 11, 2019, 12:58:58 PM
Saves them having to open up Parnell Park I guess.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on January 11, 2019, 12:59:16 PM
Playing Louth in Croker. Curtain raiser to a ladies football game!  ::)
Curtain raiser to a double header actually.

The Laois hurlers would kill to play in Croker. Have at it I say

The last game with Carlow should be tasty  8)
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: The PRO on January 11, 2019, 03:01:39 PM
Playing Louth in Croker. Curtain raiser to a ladies football game!  ::)
Curtain raiser to a double header actually.

The Laois hurlers would kill to play in Croker. Have at it I say

The last game with Carlow should be tasty  8)
Suits the grandest anyway. Laois match, watch the rugby on a telly in premium level and then watch the Dubs.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: redsetanta on January 15, 2019, 10:03:15 AM
I haven't been to any of the O'Byrne cup games this year so hard to comment on player performance etc.

Anyone have an idea what the opening matchday squad might be, starting team + subs?
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: The PRO on January 15, 2019, 10:40:52 AM
I haven't been to any of the O'Byrne cup games this year so hard to comment on player performance etc.

Anyone have an idea what the opening matchday squad might be, starting team + subs?
Hard to say. A few lads are sure to start and it's anyone's guess after that. I'd say Brody, Timmons, JOL, the 2 Kingstons, Evan O'C, Dillon and maybe Lillis are nailed on.
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Post by: Laoiseabu on January 15, 2019, 03:15:04 PM
Iíd say something like ,
Brody
???
Timmons
Dillon
Attride
Begley
???
Jol
Lillis
???
P Kingston
???
Lowry
D Kingston
O Carroll
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on January 19, 2019, 02:05:21 PM
Well, thank God for that...
http://hoganstand.com/Laois/article/index/294384?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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Post by: Give and Go on January 19, 2019, 11:33:39 PM
Well, thank God for that...
http://hoganstand.com/Laois/article/index/294384?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Should suit a defensive team like Laois
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: The PRO on January 20, 2019, 08:21:35 AM
Challenge games v Tipp (lost by a point) and Kerry (last night) this week. Plenty of lads looked at.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Butch Cassidy on January 20, 2019, 08:05:34 PM
Anymore information in the games The Pro? What kind of team will line up against Down? Down away is the hardest game we could have so hopefully we have a full deck
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: on the hop on January 20, 2019, 09:30:52 PM
i think they lost well to Kerry
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: town1980 on January 20, 2019, 09:50:56 PM
Please god we do well in div 3 obviously itís a step up but promotion should be a must
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Clubber Lang on January 20, 2019, 09:55:23 PM
Laois won the challenge game with kerry. Very experimental
Kerry team though so hard to gauge. Laois team seems to be in good physical shape a week out from start of league.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: town1980 on January 20, 2019, 10:17:45 PM
Laois did not beat Kerry in a challenge game get the facts right please
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on January 20, 2019, 10:57:17 PM
i dont agree with this "promotion is a must" business. We're clearly in transition. Retaining div 3 status wouldn't be a disaster, at all. Of course promotion should be the aim but def not a "must", in my opinion. I see a 3rd - 5th place finish for us, given the context of a bunch of new faces for 2019.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: BallyroanAbu on January 21, 2019, 09:50:49 AM
I think we should always be prioritizing promotion, I felt from the very start of Sugrue's reign that under previous management teams, we were victims of complete mismanagement,  I personally think we are a mid table Div 2 team.  If they miss promotion a fair analysis is asked for, but I have been impressed with Sugrue thus far and what his doing within Laois Football.   Long term John Sugrue has been a good appointment for Laois Football, but we should always reflect on the short-term.  Offaly are begging players to come in, I don't think there are too many in Laois who said no.  Quite the opposite a lot bulling that they are not in with them and others worried about their places. This is start of a recovery but always have decent targets.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on January 21, 2019, 10:14:02 AM
Please god we do well in div 3 obviously itís a step up but promotion should be a must
Are you still f**king here?
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Nameless on January 21, 2019, 10:19:45 AM
Please god we do well in div 3 obviously itís a step up but promotion should be a must

You have to build them up before you can knock them down. Make them seem like certainties to gain promotion, hope they lose most of their games and then go to town on them.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on January 21, 2019, 10:34:27 AM
Please god we do well in div 3 obviously itís a step up but promotion should be a must

You have to build them up before you can knock them down. Make them seem like certainties to gain promotion, hope they lose most of their games and then go to town on them.
This fella is a **** from kildare, pay him no heed.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: les Antiques on January 21, 2019, 11:29:21 AM
Healy picked up an injury against Kerry at the weekend ,looks like he'll miss the first 3-4 games of the league .
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: The PRO on January 21, 2019, 12:05:16 PM
Healy picked up an injury against Kerry at the weekend ,looks like he'll miss the first 3-4 games of the league .
Donie is doubtful too I heard. He has a virus of some sort.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on January 21, 2019, 01:58:32 PM
Laois did not beat Kerry in a challenge game get the facts right please

Two Quotes from a Kerry Football Forum, good signs...







Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: merman on January 21, 2019, 02:09:15 PM
Thanks for that Junior.
I'd never have seen those comments.

Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on January 21, 2019, 02:13:02 PM
We're gonna murder Down this weekend.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Chrimtain on January 21, 2019, 02:37:07 PM
Junior's comments from the Kerry fans forum seems to contradict that idiot, town1980, who, as has been suggested, likes to build up the team only to be able to knock them later. Not sure where he is from, but he needs to get a life.

Personally, I will be happy if we consolidate our position in Div 3.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on January 21, 2019, 02:39:42 PM
Junior's comments from the Kerry fans forum seems to contradict that idiot, town1980, who, as has been suggested, likes to build up the team only to be able to knock them later. Not sure where he is from, but he needs to get a life.

Personally, I will be happy if we consolidate our position in Div 3.
He's a simpleton gobshite.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on January 21, 2019, 02:39:58 PM
Junior's comments from the Kerry fans forum seems to contradict that idiot, town1980, who, as has been suggested, likes to build up the team only to be able to knock them later. Not sure where he is from, but he needs to get a life.

Personally, I will be happy if we consolidate our position in Div 3.
He's a simpleton gobshite.

Not Junior, he seems nice.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on January 21, 2019, 03:12:49 PM
Laois did not beat Kerry in a challenge game get the facts right please
Embarrassing poster. Time to turn off the internet for a while mate. Take up a hobbie or something. You were found out a long time ago.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: redsetanta on January 21, 2019, 03:24:25 PM
A lot of familiar names in that Kerry team all the same and we would hardly have had any of the lads who are involved in Sigerson.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: The PRO on January 21, 2019, 04:34:39 PM
Laois did not beat Kerry in a challenge game get the facts right please
f**k back to whatever hellhole in Kildare you crawled out of. Athy I'd say.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Laois Rising on January 21, 2019, 06:01:52 PM
I do wonder about the Town1980 and his intentions on the forum. A practice game in January in the grand scheme of things means very little but his abhorrence to the idea that Laois might have played well and beat an experimental Kerry side does make me wonder.

Division Three will be competitive this year. Down away is a challenging start and Westmeath look in a good place winning the O'Byrne cup with the likes of Dolan, Martin etc. driving them on and the team in physically very good shape. Longford will be buoyed by success of Muillinachta but may suffer from not having likes of John keegan available to them for the early rounds of the league. I wouldn't be surprised if 4/5 teams have a realistic chance of promotion going into the final round of games.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: town1980 on January 21, 2019, 11:09:32 PM
Actually on reflection that did look bad so I apologize for the tone of my post lads it wasnít intentional
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on January 22, 2019, 02:45:21 AM
Junior's comments from the Kerry fans forum seems to contradict that idiot, town1980, who, as has been suggested, likes to build up the team only to be able to knock them later. Not sure where he is from, but he needs to get a life.

Personally, I will be happy if we consolidate our position in Div 3.
He's a simpleton gobshite.

Not Junior, he seems nice.

Aw, thanks Don, you're getting soft in your old age..  ;D
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: redsetanta on January 22, 2019, 09:37:48 AM
https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/01/22/sugrue-says-laois-need-to-be-better-than-2018-as-division-3-test-draws-closer/ (https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/01/22/sugrue-says-laois-need-to-be-better-than-2018-as-division-3-test-draws-closer/)

According t othis article from Laois Today we were beaten by Kerry and Tipp last week!
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on January 22, 2019, 09:43:43 AM
https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/01/22/sugrue-says-laois-need-to-be-better-than-2018-as-division-3-test-draws-closer/ (https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/01/22/sugrue-says-laois-need-to-be-better-than-2018-as-division-3-test-draws-closer/)

According t othis article from Laois Today we were beaten by Kerry and Tipp last week!

Smoke and mirrors. We went down there and walked all over them.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: redsetanta on January 22, 2019, 10:12:03 AM
What game were the lads in Kerry watching. Were Laois that far ahead with 10 minutes to go that they missed the epic comeback.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: portlaoisekid on January 24, 2019, 10:19:24 AM
Whether Laois beat Kerry or not doesn't matter, playing Down does.

It'll be an incredibly tough match and the hardest of the league, we can certainly win it. Donie , if out, is a huge loss. We have a habit of going up north and winning and I hope we can this weekend too. Laois by 1
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: les Antiques on January 24, 2019, 11:33:50 AM
Agree with PK our  record in the  North in the league the past decade or so has been fairly decent.

 Seemingly in the Tipp match recently Dilion played a half in the no 12 roaming role something Donagher was Good at in recent years . But that was with Healy involved so it'll be interesting to see the team and shape it'll portray when announced.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on January 24, 2019, 11:48:49 AM
Such a pity that healy is out. Big pity for himself and us this year. But what can we do.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: les Antiques on January 24, 2019, 11:52:28 AM
Not as bad as first feared Tony . Could see him involved towards the latter stages of the league all going well .
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on January 24, 2019, 11:57:33 AM
But what can we do.
Is there anything to be said for saying another mass?
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on January 24, 2019, 06:56:31 PM
Not as bad as first feared Tony . Could see him involved towards the latter stages of the league all going well .
Good to hear, Les Antiques. The man lives and breathes Laois GAA. I've the upmost respect for him and his dedication to Laois in his career. It'd be great to have him in there, in any capacity. I just hope he gets a good run of it this year, which he deserves. At 32 and with the mileage high in the legs, well, you know the rest. Who knows, he could be playing when he's 42. He's got some heart and he's a terrific player. Wishing him a speedy and healthy recovery.

Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: on the hop on January 24, 2019, 09:37:50 PM
Interesting team, would not have seen it from the matches I have seen. Must be a few injuries. Any word on who is still on the panel
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: redsetanta on January 24, 2019, 11:47:50 PM
Five starters from the county champions. Canít complain about Portlaoise commitment to the county.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: town1980 on January 24, 2019, 11:49:48 PM
Best of lucks lads it wonít be easy
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on January 25, 2019, 01:48:48 AM

Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Unlaoised on January 25, 2019, 01:52:17 AM
Hope evan and Paul Kingston are on form or I don't see where we will get scores
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Butch Cassidy on January 25, 2019, 07:36:14 AM
Begley injured?
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: portlaoisekid on January 25, 2019, 09:00:37 AM
I like that team, I genuinely believe Boyle and Seale are two massive additions to the panel and definite starters come championship but the man to watch for me this year is Evan O'Carroll . I really think he could be a superstar for us and as the main man in attack he will flourish.

Sugrue has the lads going well in training by all accounts and win ,lose or draw against Down I don't think I've trusted a Laois mgt team to make us the best we can be.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Hospital Pass on January 25, 2019, 10:46:19 AM
It's been ages since i'v posted on here, Actually genuinely looking forward to the league this year.
Strong looking team considering we are missing Healy, Begley and Donie.
Looks like we have genuine options now in the fullback line. I haven't said that in years. Great to see Boyle back.

The new mark system and a full forward line with the 2 kingstons and Evan could be something to look forward to.

I think Down away might be a bridge too far this weekend. Down and Westmeath are probably the 2 best teams in div 3. we have both away.
Realistically a top 3 finish and a fight for promotion is what i'm after.
 
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on January 25, 2019, 12:44:28 PM
One or two names I don't like seeing there and I actually think some of our U20's would be better options in some spots. That said, I don't know what availability is like and Sugrue is not someone I distrust, so good luck to the team and I hope it goes well for all involved
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: BallyroanAbu on January 25, 2019, 01:19:29 PM
I agree with High Fielder, likewise I trust Sugrue to get it right.  Next I will agreeing with Tony ;D,  itís a weird place to be nearly everyone singing from same hymn sheet.  Slightly worrying as I am sure there are flaws but we are all happy to acknowledge and overlook.  Good Luck Laois this weekend
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on January 25, 2019, 06:01:03 PM
ha, you never know, ballyroan - stranger things have happened  :D. I think the main reason why people are all backing the setup etc is because we all know the right man is in there at the job. It's been countless years before we all agreed on a manager - maybe micko - and even at that there were a lot of lads saying we could do better. There's a real "feel good factor" around football in laois at the moment, especially given the context of hitting rock bottom and being relegated to div 4 a couple of years ago. It's amazing what a good managerial setup can do for a counties performance. It makes all the difference really. Fellas like Begley, Healy, JOL, Timmons etc, who are coming towards the latter part of their careers deserve a good setup such as this. Sugrue illustrates exactly what we were missing these past years, since McNulty, in my opinion. He's forward thinking, intelligent, proactive and a good man-manager. One cannot but wonder how it would have done had we had decent setups for earlier in this decade. Anyway, onwards and hopefully upwards and looking forward to the 2019 season which really throws in this weekend. Best of luck to all involved for 2019  :)
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Laoiseabu on January 25, 2019, 10:21:41 PM
Down have named a very very beatable 15 . Down people arenít confident about their setup so I think we should fancy ourselves tomorrow
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Smurfy123 on January 25, 2019, 10:25:38 PM
If Laois have anything about them they will win. I stand corrected but unbelievably only 1 player in the Down starting team donnnelly started against Cavan in last years championship match.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: redsetanta on January 26, 2019, 08:21:53 PM
Laois home 4 points up coming to the closing stages
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: BallyroanAbu on January 26, 2019, 08:34:03 PM
You would have to be happy
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on January 26, 2019, 08:59:35 PM
We're gonna murder Down this weekend.

Well said Don.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on January 26, 2019, 09:03:12 PM
Delighted with that; some performance. more thoughts tomorrow - now - pints  ;D
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on January 26, 2019, 09:19:04 PM
What a fantastic result from a very difficult opening game for Laois. Great performance from all and terrific use of the bench. How brilliant it is to have lads like that to come on and change the game completely in our favour. This is the start we needed and we can go to Croke Park with a spring in our step and really express ourselves.

https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/01/26/brilliant-second-half-performance-sees-laois-get-the-better-of-down-in-league-opener/
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Post by: Keyser SŲze on January 26, 2019, 09:28:04 PM
That's a great win.
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Post by: LooseCannon on January 26, 2019, 09:52:37 PM
Just saw Steven Millerís tweet. Munelly is some man.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Countyminor on January 26, 2019, 11:16:00 PM
Great win. Interesting to note 8 of the starting 15 from Port & Portlaoise. The counties big urban centres more than pulling their weight. Can only be a good thing.
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Post by: welcomehome on January 26, 2019, 11:34:14 PM
Just back from newry..great 2nd half..Brought donie and begley on in the 2nd half made a huge difference..different team in the 2nd half..thought jol was very good tonight,and evan ocarroll...not a huge laois crowd..but what was dere was great...This was a great start for them..delighted to have portlaoise lads on it...thought colm murphy had a great 2nd half..things looking good...
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: on the hop on January 26, 2019, 11:45:01 PM
Great win. Didnít look like it early in the second half when we went 5 down against the wind. Down got a bit of a spurt before half time and pushed the league to four. It flattered them i thought as we had a lot of possession but found it hard to break down their blanket defense. We were over cautious at times. The two changes at half time worked a dream especially Donie. He went centre forward and offered a fulcrum, Begley to wing back and Dillon back to the corner. Unlucky on campion as he picked up a soft yellow from a picky ref. Work rate went up and a few real standouts, donieís Point from play and a turnover on the sideline lifted the team. Went really direct with Donie, Evan and Murphy doing damage. Once we got a run on them they were vulnerable. Should have had more goals, if only Evan would lift his head at times and Paul hitting the crossbar. Begley went asleep for their goal but we powered through to the end.

Great team effort, which gives us a great start. Backs were ok. The mark caught them out a few times. Piggot looks like he will be centre back. Midfield worked hard, jol took a bit of abuse. Probably both two alike in that they sit deep, which could be the game plan. Sean Byrne very intelligent player. Like the look of him. Donie made a big difference, one big mark in particular. Boyle kicked three points and got on a lot of ball, very good passer. Murphy great second half, really showed well and one great catch over his head. Evan the star man and could have doubled his score. He could do anything with frees though. Looks in great form. Not Paul Kingstonís best night. Good to see Paul C finishing his goal after the miss.
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Post by: High Fielder on January 26, 2019, 11:54:46 PM
Game of two halves. We were woeful in the first half and getting bullied. Down deserved their lead but it was encouraging that it was only four points because a better team would have doubled that margin. Donie came on and they hadn't a clue how to deal with him. Begley brought a bit of composure albeit he let their man in behind him for their goal. Lillis and O'Loughlin disappointed me because they bought into the mayhem around them when they should be experienced enough to make gains. They didn't help themselves by never looking forward, particularly in the first half, although it could be argued that movement in front of them was poor. Thankfully the changes created space and the bit of experience helped too. We were braver in our approach play and supporting each other. The gaps inevitably appeared. A good start but still some obvious weaknesses, particularly in the full back line. The high ball in is a big problem for us

Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Chrimtain on January 27, 2019, 12:12:42 AM
Great start for Laois. Hopefully they will keep it going now. Its impressive how Sugrue is slowly changing the age profile of the team. Don't want to get carried away, but there are two winnable matches against Louth and Sligo coming up now.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: les Antiques on January 27, 2019, 10:53:02 AM
Delighted to kick start the competitive year with 2 away points against another of the promotion prospects . Didn't make it to Newry but encouraging to hear about the panel we are developing and the depth on the line .
The physical size of the introductions in the second half shows what's at our disposal this year .
A early year run out in Croker next Saturday can only be a good thing .
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Nameless on January 27, 2019, 11:14:38 AM
What a turn around in the second half. It might be unfair on the other players to say that Kingston turned the game single handily but for sure, we would not have won without his introduction. At centre forward he won a lot of ball, created scores and got some himself. Training for a full season will make a big difference. Great league debut for Murphy. Early days but he looks the part. O'Carroll is very dangerous but his accuracy can let him down sometimes. Johno was good in the second half, a solid debut from Byrne and Boyle had a good game with 3 points. Only thing is his lack of pace.
It got him bottled up a few times and it is our weakness around the middle I think. The one thing that really is encouraging is the competition for places. Paul Kingston didn't have his best game so Cahilane has put his position under serious threat. He got a goal and hit the bar but he's also a left-footed free-taker which might put him ahead. We had O'Carroll missing two from that side in the first half. Nerney did ok at full back, decent back up for Timmons. Seale and Campion did fine. Dillon was moved back for the second half and we have Healy to come back also. Piggot is strong and a tight marker, we should give him a run at centre back. Then where to play Begley?
Maybe midfield, is Meaney still around? Sugrue indicated that he's going to give players a go so we'll see where that leads us. You have to perform to keep your place or claim a place. Training matches must be very competitive. Encouraging signs, very positive but still a lot to work on and figure out. A great way to start the league, next to an empty Croke Park.  ;D
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on January 27, 2019, 11:40:11 AM
There was a significant moment at the start of the second half when Pigott got stuck into their midfielder. I thought it set the tone. He took the yellow and they stopped their funny stuff. I like this lad a lot. We could do with a few more like him. He's not dirty but he's a bit bould and there's nothing wrong with that at all. We upped our physicality from that moment on and didn't look back
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: welcomehome on January 27, 2019, 11:43:05 AM
High fielder..dont no what match u were at..
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on January 27, 2019, 11:49:10 AM
Probably the one you weren't
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: haranguerer on January 27, 2019, 12:05:39 PM
There was a poignant moment at the start of the second half when Pigott got stuck into their midfielder. I thought it set the tone. He took the yellow and they stopped their funny stuff. I like this lad a lot. We could do with a few more like him. He's not dirty but he's a bit bould and there's nothing wrong with that at all. We upped our physicality from that moment on and didn't look back

??
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on January 27, 2019, 12:09:49 PM
Meant significant. Thanks for the spell check. This has been rectified
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on January 27, 2019, 12:55:01 PM
High fielder..dont no what match u were at..
Not sure what that's about, welcomehome - I thought High Fielder was spot on in his analysis. We should be pleased with our performance and there are huge positives; yet we do have a lot to work on if we want to take things to the next level. Our pace and inexperience in some areas might be an issue, but, again, given where we where just this time last year, we've made huge progress and things look relatively positive. Looking forward to Croke Park, and, in a way it'll be nice to have an early trip up there instead of a home match. Here's the big man himself, John Sugrue, post Down which includes some updates on the panel and injury news :
https://soundcloud.com/midlandssport/john-sugrue-post-down
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Post by: Don Draper on January 27, 2019, 01:03:33 PM
Meant significant. Thanks for the spell check. This has been rectified
Iím sure it was poignant too.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on January 27, 2019, 01:41:52 PM
Also, for Laois GAA diehards who can't get enough of the thing, here's a good relatively new "LaoisToday" podcast about the 2019 National Football League. This one is from a couple of days ago with some interesting Laois men and perspectives, including the great Padraig Clancy:
 https://soundcloud.com/laoistoday/football-240119
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: redsetanta on January 27, 2019, 10:21:37 PM
Great to score 2 goals yesterday as we have struggled under previous managers to do this. A good battling performance but tougher tests to come. Carlow put up a decent score in Sligo. Westmeath just got over Offaly. Will be a very competitive campaign.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on January 27, 2019, 10:23:39 PM
Great to score 2 goals yesterday as we have struggled under previous managers to do this. A good battling performance but tougher tests to come. Carlow put up a decent score in Sligo. Westmeath just got over Offaly. Will be a very competitive campaign.
Sligo are shite. Westmeath always struggle with their betters in Offaly.

We'll be a-one.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on January 28, 2019, 07:18:31 AM
That was a home game for Carlow and was a horrible game to watch, especially the first half. Carlow are still as defensive as ever and the goal was on OG which came from a 45. Laois should be well able to finish in the top two positions in this group. John Sugrue said he is still working from a panel of 40 so he has lots of options still. Great win up there in what was a very hostile atmosphere and sets us up nicely in the group.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on January 28, 2019, 10:14:12 AM
Nice to see Sugrue didn't cull the panel as speculated by some on here at the time.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Nameless on January 28, 2019, 11:25:35 AM
Great win up there in what was a very hostile atmosphere and sets us up nicely in the group.

It was just like playing away in Galatasaray!  ;D I don't know where you were but that was far from hostile.
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Post by: County Man on January 28, 2019, 01:22:07 PM
Fantastic win in Newry, unreal second half especially.

Big Donie did untold damage in the 2nd half, what a genius. The Portarlington lads all did very well. Everyone tried hard, we were physical.

Lets push on now for round 2 in Croke Park.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: The PRO on January 28, 2019, 03:41:08 PM
Nice to see Sugrue didn't cull the panel as speculated by some on here at the time.
He will have to at some stage though you'd think. 40 plus seems too many. 35 or 36 seems to be the usual number carried.
I'd say a few under 20's will drop to their own panel.
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Post by: portlaoisekid on January 28, 2019, 03:41:34 PM
A great start and a good foundation for the rest of league .


BTW I was reading Downs forum to see what their take is and they claim that Carlow's Steven Poacher had an altercation with Laois stats team at the back of the stand and threw a water bottle at them. Has anyone heard anything about this?
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: The PRO on January 28, 2019, 04:18:01 PM
A great start and a good foundation for the rest of league .


BTW I was reading Downs forum to see what their take is and they claim that Carlow's Steven Poacher had an altercation with Laois stats team at the back of the stand and threw a water bottle at them. Has anyone heard anything about this?
Impossible. Not Stevie. Wouldn't be in his nature. I'd say he was offering him a drink and possibly his hand slipped.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Giovanni on January 28, 2019, 07:12:53 PM
Was humming and hawing about whether to head up to this on Saturday night but was delighted that I did!

The thing that struck me was that every Laois player knew exactly what they were doing and the team performance was outstanding. While it's true that Donie did make a difference when he came on, I don't agree that this result was all about Donie. There was a fantastic structure to everything that was done and even when we went 5 point down, I never really felt we were out of it. The players showed a lot of composure and confidence in breaking down what looked like a pretty organised Down defence.

On player performance, I thought that of all of the new lads did well. Adam Campion and Seale had their hands full but the longer the game went on, the better they got. Piggott had a pretty good second half - his man Poland, who I thought looked a very good player in the first half, was eventually substituted in the second. Sean Byrne was also quiet enough in the first half but he did make one outstanding catch and made a goal-saving tackle/block to deny Down at a critical time.

The other thing that struck me was the fitness levels of the older lads. I thought Colm Begley looks like he's in better shape than he's ever been and JOL who has sometimes looked a bit sluggish in the past seemed to be flying even on the soft ground. Donie has a bit of catching up to do in that respect.

I didn't get the hostile atmosphere - in fact I thought the Down supporters were a lot more hospitable than you might find in some other northern counties (or southern ones for that matter).

I was in the stand, not too far in front of the where the officials were seated. I didn't see any incident but I'm assuming it would have been behind me so that's not to say it didn't happen.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: recyclebin on January 28, 2019, 08:09:20 PM
I wasn't up in Newry myself. What did people make of the forward mark? Looks like both teams got a few scores from them. I can see more teams becoming even more defensive to prevent a free kick at goal.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: smcder on January 29, 2019, 11:52:41 PM
Wasn't a hostile crowd. Some of them seemed down on there own team.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Unlaoised on January 30, 2019, 12:25:55 AM
Wow what a win ...

Delighted I travelled up although a quick call to realitives in the North meant i misjudged the time and missed the first 12 minutes of the game .


I was impressed with Laois and our fitness levels .

Byrne Piggott and Murphy done themselves no harm

Boyle slotted in there like he was never away and gives us options on the ball when he releases it quick due to his accurate kick passing .

Dillion was good as was o loughlin

Donnie made a huge difference but Evan gets my nod for man of the match ...yes the odd silly selection on shots etc but he really looks in great shape this year and kept us in it in the first half ...

Great to see callihane involved hopefully he stays around .

Down were poor on the night and didn't seem as Well drilled as us esp when the conditions were with them in the second half .

There supporters were complimenting our style .

One guy said he was glad to see Donie back to form as he thought 10 years ago he was going to be better than Benny counter after a performance against Down in o Moore park ..

Bring on the wee county in croker
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on January 30, 2019, 02:29:21 AM
Wasn't a hostile crowd. Some of them seemed down on there own team.
Going in I was greeted with,"F..k back home and bring those blue shirted b**tards with ya.. Inside we got some very unhealthy looks and some choice words from a few guys behind us and later on I heard a commotion near the back of the stand like chairs been thrown around or something, might have been coming from the commentary box. The stand was great and the match was good at times, especially the second half. There was only two of us but we made sure to walk out with a crowd... just in case like... :)

Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on January 30, 2019, 06:42:41 AM
Sales of tin foil are going well in dunnes this week Junior. Ah no, if that's what you experienced, that's not nice. I found the crowd we were around to be quite friendly. And we didn't hide that we were from Laois. Maybe you got the 1% who are at every ground. They're always there. Somewhere. Lurking. You know it's not your day when one is sitting or standing right behind you at a match. They never shut up and they never stop talking #&ߣ;#:
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on January 30, 2019, 08:13:22 AM
Wasn't a hostile crowd. Some of them seemed down on there own team.
Going in I was greeted with,"F..k back home and bring those blue shirted b**tards with ya.. Inside we got some very unhealthy looks and some choice words from a few guys behind us and later on I heard a commotion near the back of the stand like chairs been thrown around or something, might have been coming from the commentary box. The stand was great and the match was good at times, especially the second half. There was only two of us but we made sure to walk out with a crowd... just in case like... :)
Jesus, are you ok?
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Heshs Umpire on January 30, 2019, 04:22:46 PM
I wasn't in Down Saturday but have been before and always found them one of the soundest crowds up in Ulster. Very welcoming anytime I ever umpired up there.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Unlaoised on January 30, 2019, 08:59:59 PM
I wasn't in Down Saturday but have been before and always found them one of the soundest crowds up in Ulster. Very welcoming anytime I ever umpired up there.

This always thought Down Donegal and Monaghan were the friendly sorts ..

Tyrone and Armagh are well Tyrone and Armagh ...Derry not the nicest and Cavan seem to have that chip on their shoulder about once being great ...

Antrim can be hostile esp in hurling if the game is tight ..

Only was in fermanagh once and found them to be far from complimentary
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Chrimtain on January 30, 2019, 10:23:37 PM
I recall being at a minor All Ireland Semi Final replay against Derry and having a Derry supporter repeatedly shout 'Youse Gaolers Youse' at Laois supporters after they had beaten us.

Needless to say, I didn't like them.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Butch Cassidy on January 30, 2019, 10:46:19 PM
Eoin Buggie on the Laois panel?
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on January 31, 2019, 02:50:22 AM
Wasn't a hostile crowd. Some of them seemed down on there own team.
Going in I was greeted with,"F..k back home and bring those blue shirted b**tards with ya.. Inside we got some very unhealthy looks and some choice words from a few guys behind us and later on I heard a commotion near the back of the stand like chairs been thrown around or something, might have been coming from the commentary box. The stand was great and the match was good at times, especially the second half. There was only two of us but we made sure to walk out with a crowd... just in case like... :)
Jesus, are you ok?

I am, and don't call me Jesus...  ;D   

Ah no, to be honest it was a very small minority, any other Down supporters I spoke to were sound
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on January 31, 2019, 07:01:28 AM
I recall being at a minor All Ireland Semi Final replay against Derry and having a Derry supporter repeatedly shout 'Youse Gaolers Youse' at Laois supporters after they had beaten us.

Needless to say, I didn't like them.
He wasnít wrong. We have a lot of people working in the Gaol.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: les Antiques on January 31, 2019, 11:44:30 AM
Eoin Buggie on the Laois panel?

I believe so Butch but along with Hitchcock and couple of others they were involved with the Siegerson which would have ended for most of them this week .
Except changes for the louth game .!
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: les Antiques on January 31, 2019, 11:54:43 AM
My mistake most of them will be involved again next Wednesday .Good wins for Carlow IT and UCD yesterday . Evan was excellent for UCD apparently.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: portlaoisekid on January 31, 2019, 02:26:58 PM
My mistake most of them will be involved again next Wednesday .Good wins for Carlow IT and UCD yesterday . Evan was excellent for UCD apparently.
O'Carroll is flying it, I said it last week and I'll say it again he can become a superstar player for us.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Nameless on January 31, 2019, 03:20:03 PM
My mistake most of them will be involved again next Wednesday .Good wins for Carlow IT and UCD yesterday . Evan was excellent for UCD apparently.
O'Carroll is flying it, I said it last week and I'll say it again he can become a superstar player for us.

The Kingston/O'Carroll axis could be lethal! Either in the full forward line together or with Kingston at centre forward.

The sounds are that a few more lads will be given a go this weekend. Now is the time to do it. Louth don't appear to be up to much.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Laois Rising on January 31, 2019, 04:30:03 PM
The attacking mark if kept for the championship would work very well for Kingston and O'Carroll. O'Carroll has really benefited from Sugrue's management and playing probably the best football in his career so far. On the flip side, we could be vulnerably defensively to an attacking mark. Monaghan had Dublin in serious panic everytime ball sent in towards McManusvand co in second half. By time championship comes around I'm sure Gavin will have figured out way to negate the threat but it does provide teams with a potential weapon of getting at the Dublin defense.

Louth losing at home to a very weakened Longford team would suggest that they are very much there for the taking this weekend. 
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Chrimtain on January 31, 2019, 10:02:55 PM

https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/01/31/laois-senior-football-team-named-for-louth-clash-in-croke-park/

Wasn't expecting this. No Donie, Evan or Colm Begley starting and another Croke Park outing for Ross Munnelly. However, I can understand that JS does not want to over use Evan, given his Sigerson Cup exploits.

Hopefully it will all work out and we will have another two points in he bag on Saturday evening.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on February 01, 2019, 01:14:35 AM

Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: The PRO on February 01, 2019, 08:55:42 AM
Hopefully there's enough scoring threat there. Can see Donie and Even being needed off the bench.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on February 01, 2019, 11:22:16 AM
I can see why Ross is starting. After the match in Newry, he was doing his own solo training while most other people were gone. He's very hungry to keep playing and he's some example for the younger lads on the team. He's some man and delighted he's starting, especially in Croke Park. I consider him a legend of Laois football and it's a privilege to see him perform all these years later. 2002 - 2019 is some run, who's to say he wont make it 20 years in 2022.
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Post by: on the hop on February 01, 2019, 07:17:45 PM
did he play in 2002?? I thought he started in 2003 in the league
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on February 01, 2019, 07:18:48 PM
Training with the panel since 02 but yeah, competitive debut in 03.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on February 02, 2019, 08:19:05 AM
did he play in 2002?? I thought he started in 2003 in the league
Correct, I donít think he even trained more than once in 2002. Called in to make up numbers from the U21s once.

Heís going long enough, we donít need to make up an extra year.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on February 02, 2019, 03:22:00 PM
Too many lads playing with fear. Puts pressure on the whole machine.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on February 02, 2019, 06:14:47 PM
Bad day. A total mess. Words are hard to find. Some lads for all their work rate, lack bottle and any sort of quality. Big kick up the arse
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: on the hop on February 02, 2019, 06:42:21 PM
A bit like what is going on with the rugby team, today was a shocker for the team and management. Louth were no word beaters but they seemed far more mobile and clued in to what they were doing. We were shambles a lot of the time, with no shape to defense and no idea how to deal with their mass defense. The sending off further compounded matters as they used the spare man well. The three goals were shocking and really exposed us. If we had even a big of composure at the end we could have made them nervous, but some horrible options taken. I donít know what really you can say, it was that bad, we ended the game with our goal keeper chasing around their full back line trying to win back possession. At least he was trying
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on February 02, 2019, 06:59:20 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about that performance. I think it was typical of Laois teams down through the years, win a game they're not expected to and the cockiness creeps in and inevitably they are caught in the next game. I really believe if we had lost to Down we would have picked up two points here today.
John Sugrue seems to be the type of guy who will use that performance to drive home a few things to these guys and I hope they learn from it. I believe they will and Sligo will suffer for it next week.
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Post by: Laoiseabu on February 02, 2019, 07:53:17 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about that performance. I think it was typical of Laois teams down through the years, win a game they're not expected to and the cockiness creeps in and inevitably they are caught in the next game. I really believe if we had lost to Down we would have picked up two points here today.
John Sugrue seems to be the type of guy who will use that performance to drive home a few things to these guys and I hope they learn from it. I believe they will and Sligo will suffer for it next week.
ďJohn Sugrue seems to be the type of guy who will ď my arse . Heís the one that made the decision not to start OíCarroll Kingston and Begley. How can u win.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on February 02, 2019, 08:12:45 PM
Ah lovely, weíre turning on Sugrue already, what a shower of c***ts we are
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Jd on February 02, 2019, 08:35:28 PM
Pay no heed to fools like that . ĎĎTwas a bad day thatís all I think youíll see that vast majority on here have full confidence in JS and his management team
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Post by: O moore parklife on February 02, 2019, 08:46:28 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about that performance. I think it was typical of Laois teams down through the years, win a game they're not expected to and the cockiness creeps in and inevitably they are caught in the next game. I really believe if we had lost to Down we would have picked up two points here today.
John Sugrue seems to be the type of guy who will use that performance to drive home a few things to these guys and I hope they learn from it. I believe they will and Sligo will suffer for it next week.
ďJohn Sugrue seems to be the type of guy who will ď my arse . Heís the one that made the decision not to start OíCarroll Kingston and Begley. How can u win.

You embody the worst in any "fan" f*ck off the bandwagon and go boil your head.

Best of luck to john and the team on the rest of the season great to see a couple of 100 travel up to croker for a leauge match.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: on the hop on February 02, 2019, 09:39:16 PM
Does anybody know how bad Sean Byrnes injury is??
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: welcomehome on February 02, 2019, 09:43:48 PM
Just back from croke park,really dont no what to say..There was no one u could say played good,except maybe brody..Hopefully its just an off day,we certainly  got a wake up call today..I cannot understand why donie evan and begley dont start,i would love to know who in there right mind put this match in croke park.THE TEAMS CAME OUT TO AN EMPTY STADIUM...
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Laoiseabu on February 02, 2019, 09:52:23 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about that performance. I think it was typical of Laois teams down through the years, win a game they're not expected to and the cockiness creeps in and inevitably they are caught in the next game. I really believe if we had lost to Down we would have picked up two points here today.
John Sugrue seems to be the type of guy who will use that performance to drive home a few things to these guys and I hope they learn from it. I believe they will and Sligo will suffer for it next week.
ďJohn Sugrue seems to be the type of guy who will ď my arse . Heís the one that made the decision not to start OíCarroll Kingston and Begley. How can u win.

You embody the worst in any "fan" f*ck off the bandwagon and go boil your head.

Best of luck to john and the team on the rest of the season great to see a couple of 100 travel up to croker for a leauge match.
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Itís the truth . You canít afford to be without your 3 best players on from the start
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Laoiseabu on February 02, 2019, 10:03:42 PM
Pay no heed to fools like that . ĎĎTwas a bad day thatís all I think youíll see that vast majority on here have full confidence in JS and his management team
Iím not a fool. It was his decision not to start our three best players. Iím stating my opinion . I know the truth hurts but someone has to point it out. We are fooling ourselves if we think Donie Evan and Colm shouldnít be starting . Those three  players were the reason we got a victory in Newry.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on February 02, 2019, 10:15:43 PM
this division could be a game of snakes and ladders.
great result in newry, horrid today.

the only point I would add is that over the years, I have found louth to be a team which needs to lead early if they are to win.....when they beat us in the championship and more recently two years ago in the league they amassed big leads and we never were in the hunt. when louth fall behind , they a rarely make a comeback.
therefore starting our best forwards in the hope of establishing an early lead was important against this opposition.....bringing on donie and evan when the damage was done failed to rescue the situation.

it is easy to be wise after the event.....looking ahead to Sligo next sunday.....our problem against them over the years has been discipline(keeping 15 on the field), if we address this aspect in advance of next sunday we can win that game.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on February 02, 2019, 10:22:19 PM
Just back from croke park,really dont no what to say..There was no one u could say played good,except maybe brody..Hopefully its just an off day,we certainly  got a wake up call today..I cannot understand why donie evan and begley dont start,i would love to know who in there right mind put this match in croke park.THE TEAMS CAME OUT TO AN EMPTY STADIUM...
We put it in Croke Park
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on February 02, 2019, 10:26:41 PM
Pay no heed to fools like that . ĎĎTwas a bad day thatís all I think youíll see that vast majority on here have full confidence in JS and his management team
Iím not a fool. It was his decision not to start our three best players. Iím stating my opinion . I know the truth hurts but someone has to point it out. We are fooling ourselves if we think Donie Evan and Colm shouldnít be starting . Those three  players were the reason we got a victory in Newry.
Evan needs minding
Donie is recovering from a virus
Colm is returning from injury

Why flog them in a league match a risk worse injury and log term absence?

Youíre being quite foolish here. We need to develop new leaders and new players.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on February 02, 2019, 11:58:08 PM
Pay no heed to fools like that . ĎĎTwas a bad day thatís all I think youíll see that vast majority on here have full confidence in JS and his management team
Iím not a fool. It was his decision not to start our three best players. Iím stating my opinion . I know the truth hurts but someone has to point it out. We are fooling ourselves if we think Donie Evan and Colm shouldnít be starting . Those three  players were the reason we got a victory in Newry.
Evan needs minding
Donie is recovering from a virus
Colm is returning from injury

Why flog them in a league match a risk worse injury and log term absence?

Youíre being quite foolish here. We need to develop new leaders and new players.

That's the most sensible thing you have said in a long time Don.. Congrats..  ;D

Firstly, reasons why we should have been able to win this game.
(1) Louth have officially the worst league record in the country losing their last ten matches in the league which includes the defeat to Tipp in the 2017 Division 3 league final.
(2) Louth have not won a match in Croke Park since beating Westmeath in the Division 3 final in 2011.
(3) Louth were 14/1 with the bookies not to win a game in Div 3.
(4) Since the beginning of last year Louth have only won two O'Byrne cup games.

Evan is in danger of being burnt out before the championship starts so it was a good decision to rest him until needed. Playing lads who are injured is not a good idea especially when we have a panel of lads who need game time. I thought Mark Timmons was badly missed today, we needed some experience in the defence and I think if Kevin Meaney was there he would have strengthened our midfield when Lillis got his walking papers.

Its still a learning curve for both players and management and I have no doubt they will all learn from this regarding attitude, commitment and keeping focused on the game in hand and not on previous results.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on February 03, 2019, 12:32:52 AM
Alarm bell one. Our two midfielders were giving away a lot of height. Long kicks meaningless. Alarm bell two. Two inexperienced and nervy defenders left isolated without a sweeper. Alarm bell three. One of their forwards clearly rinsing one of our inexperienced backs and creating the perfect conditions for incoming attackers. Tackling powderpuff. Support play the stuff of negligence. Lads not tuned in and watching their team mates getting bottled up time after time. Just one of those performances that make you think that we made a fortune backing Louth at whatever ridiculous price they were. We can't be that bad and I know we're not but yet I can't understand what the hell happened today. I know we have lads playing who are a long way off what is needed even in the lower Divisions
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on February 03, 2019, 09:28:15 AM
Hard to put your finger on a performance like that; I thought there were poor performances lacking urgency all around the field, apart from Brody, Begley, Attride and Ross in the first half. HOWEVER, it's a league match at the start of February and I wouldn't be getting carried away one way or another, just like post Down victory last week. It's hard to know where we stand currently, we'll only know that come end of league / championship time.

However, one thing I do know is that the starting championship team will likely look VASTLY different to the one starting yesterday. I thought we lacked pace yesterday which was a killer, and I thought we lacked experience in VITAL areas. Anyway, it was valuable experience for a lot of lads like Piggott, Murphy, Nerney etc and it will bring those lads on a lot, and I think all the newer faces need and deserve a lot more time.

My team for the end of League / start of Championship looks something like this -
                         
                          Brody

    Healy/Seale      Timmons      Dillon
   Attride              Begley         Lillis

           JOL  Quigley/Meaney

      Boyle          Donie        Damien O' Connor/Byrne
    P Kingston   Evan O' C     Colm Murphy / Cahilane


I know there are hardly any new faces there and that's an ageing team, but you have to go with your best 15 for C'ship, and, I see that being our best team come April or May. Plenty of size and decent pace in important areas. I still think there's a lot of potential in the likes of Nerney, Piggott, Byrne etc and there is a lot of competition for places / room for new lads to step up and claim their place. I just think that's the best we have in 2019; still mostly the old guard. Still life in them all yet, though, in my opinion.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: O moore parklife on February 03, 2019, 09:38:02 AM
Hard to put your finger on a performance like that; I thought there were poor performances lacking urgency all around the field, apart from Brody, Begley, Attride and Ross in the first half. HOWEVER, it's a league match at the start of February and I wouldn't be getting carried away one way or another, just like post Down victory last week. It's hard to know where we stand currently, we'll only know that come end of league / championship time.

However, one thing I do know is that the starting championship team will likely look VASTLY different to the one starting yesterday. I thought we lacked pace yesterday which was a killer, and I thought we lacked experience in VITAL areas. Anyway, it was valuable experience for a lot of lads like Piggott, Murphy, Nerney etc and it will bring those lads on a lot, and I think all the newer faces need and deserve a lot more time.

My team for the end of League / start of Championship looks something like this -
                         
                          Brody

    Healy/Seale      Timmons      Dillon
   Attride              Begley         Lillis

           JOL  Quigley/Meaney

      Boyle          Donie        Damien O' Connor/Byrne
    P Kingston   Evan O' C     Colm Murphy / Cahilane


I know there are hardly any new faces there and that's an ageing team, but you have to go with your best 15 for C'ship, and, I see that being our best team come April or May. Plenty of size and decent pace in important areas. I still think there's a lot of potential in the likes of Nerney, Piggott, Byrne etc and there is a lot of competition for places / room for new lads to step up and claim their place. I just think that's the best we have in 2019; still mostly the old guard. Still life in them all yet, though, in my opinion.

Great logical post makings of a battle hardened team there alright id much rather give young lads game time and potentially put out a "weaker" team and have them blooded for high intensity matches in Leinster and beyond
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Butch Cassidy on February 03, 2019, 09:45:14 AM
Good post Tony but i worry abou the pace on that team around the middle. The only one with natural pace on the half back line/midfield/ half forward line is Attride. The way the game has gone pace and power are essential and it's a big weakness on our team. Farrell and Damien O'Connor have good pace so can see them starting
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: on the hop on February 03, 2019, 10:59:10 AM
Alarm bell one. Our two midfielders were giving away a lot of height. Long kicks meaningless. Alarm bell two. Two inexperienced and nervy defenders left isolated without a sweeper. Alarm bell three. One of their forwards clearly rinsing one of our inexperienced backs and creating the perfect conditions for incoming attackers. Tackling powderpuff. Support play the stuff of negligence. Lads not tuned in and watching their team mates getting bottled up time after time. Just one of those performances that make you think that we made a fortune backing Louth at whatever ridiculous price they were. We can't be that bad and I know we're not but yet I can't understand what the hell happened today. I know we have lads playing who are a long way off what is needed even in the lower Divisions

My thoughts exactly. The management for some reason have not developed any sort of kick out strategy other than lumping it on jol the majority of the time. Even after losing Lillis we still aimed everything at him. With their height advantage they just broke ball off him. Most teams work kick outs for a high retention return, ours seemed to be 50/50.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Giovanni on February 03, 2019, 02:17:29 PM
Wasnít at this match yesterday but, in fairness, I thought they had clearly worked on kick outs for the down match. I doubt if they abandoned all that yesterday.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: on the hop on February 03, 2019, 04:33:06 PM
Down beat Sligo, Offaly and Longford draw. Do we go with the strongest team next week against Sligo, or do we stick with what we are doing. Vital game already in a tight division
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: les Antiques on February 03, 2019, 05:45:48 PM
Good question . Bound to be changes with Lillis suspended and can't see Evan playing  if he is involved in Siegerson this Wednesday and again possibly the following Wednesday. Looks like he'll miss stick with Piggot at centre back for the league anyway and start Begley midfield against Sligo .
Quigley a long way off and Meaney a bit of the pace still .
Can see Cahillane starting next week . I wonder the extent of Sean Byrnes injury !?
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Nameless on February 03, 2019, 07:23:02 PM
They say you learn more in defeat and I think that was the case yesterday. It's clear that we have huge issues with pace. Especially around the middle. We saw it against Down but it was exposed by Louth. We just haven't got the speed to keep up with runners from deep. Do we have players to come in who can change this? I'm not sure. We have some pacier players who lack a bit of power on the panel while also having players with power who lack pace.
I thought Nerney did quite well and Seale and Campion did well enough considering they were left 1v1 most of the time. However, it's unlikely any of them will be starting if injuries clear up. Piggot has some qualities, he's strong, a tight enough marker. I don't like to be critical but maybe he lacks a bit of quality when in possession. I think Begley is our centre back and he's vital for us there. Attride hasn't been at his best. The other wing position is up for grabs. Maybe drop O'Connor back or try out Buggie, Kelly, Crowley, Collins, when injuries/sigerson cup clear up. Or Scully who looked ok when he was on.
Midfield is a bit of an issue. As has been pointed out, fielding and pace are the concerns. Better movement on kick outs can help the first part and can be worked on. Like others, it'd be nice to see what Meaney can do. Again, I don't want to be critical but although Boyle is a good passer, he just lacks the agility needed at this level. Wing forwards need to be extremely athletic, have huge engines to go back and forward for the game. Again, not sure we have anyone like that. Byrne deserves another run. Maybe O'Reilly should be given a go. We'll probably try Kingston at centre forward again. Maybe it's the virus but he was struggling after a few runs yesterday. Cahilane could be trialled if we're using our 11 as a creator. Paul Kingston hasn't started the league well. Ross played well but was dispossessed too easily on a few occasions. Murphy found it a bit tougher but we should stick with him.
We shouldn't be getting too carried away with anything. The league is for trying things out and seeing if players can fit into what Sugrue is trying to do. I don't mind if none of the big guns start. Let other players stand up and prove themselves if they have it in them. There's a big panel there who have been training extremely hard. Let's see what they can do. It'd be nice to get promoted but finding out what we have available is more important. Survival in division 3 will be enough after that.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Unlaoised on February 04, 2019, 10:41:30 AM
Complacency was the biggest factor on Saturday .

It came from the manager with the team selection and filtered through the players ..

I've no doubt we will thump Sligo the next day ..

Not going to criticise too many but I'd only give pass marks to munnelly Boyle Brody Begley Scilly was unlucky to be taken back off.

The train on the way home was a sober one with the rugger heads crying into their beer aswell
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on February 04, 2019, 10:44:41 AM
Complacency was the biggest factor on Saturday .

It came from the manager with the team selection and filtered through the players ..

I've no doubt we will thump Sligo the next day ..

Not going to criticise too many but I'd only give pass marks to munnelly Boyle Brody Begley Scilly was unlucky to be taken back off.

The train on the way home was a sober one with the rugger heads crying into their beer aswell
What was wrong with the team selection?
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: blueandwhite1 on February 04, 2019, 12:40:45 PM
First few games in the league can be hard to call. Teams find form at different times and form can be up and down.

Nameless makes a good point about pace. You can have 3-4 lads that don't have the pace but in the modern game you can't have more than that. Laois have struggled with this for a few years and will be interesting to see how Sugrue handles this. It may mean giving youth a chance over experience and taking short term pain over long term gain.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on February 04, 2019, 12:59:55 PM
I don't agree that it was a complacent team selection. Why? Because A: it's the league, and you should try out newer players so they'll be more ready for the all important championship. And B: Colm and Donie are clearly not at full fitness due to coming back from injury and recent virus respectively. Evan is playing more than enough games in the sigerson.

So unless you want a stack of injuries, you have to allow fellas time to come back, the HEALTHY way.

And C: you want to give all your players confidence and to be able to count on them so they'll feel more ready when the big games come and they're throw in against a big name player after 50 mins of a game during summer. Starting a league match and playing 70 mins is fantastic preparation. Spend a penny, save a pound, etc.

So, no, it wasn't a complacent team selection. Let's not get too depressed (!) it's the start of February in the freezing cold. Time to calm down and relax. It will all be ok  ;). The same lads would be complaining that Begley and Donie were brought back too early if they happened to pick up an injury during the first half. Time to face reality : Sugrue and the setup know better than you  :-X.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Laoiseabu on February 04, 2019, 01:07:19 PM
Complacency was the biggest factor on Saturday .

It came from the manager with the team selection and filtered through the players ..

I've no doubt we will thump Sligo the next day ..

Not going to criticise too many but I'd only give pass marks to munnelly Boyle Brody Begley Scilly was unlucky to be taken back off.

The train on the way home was a sober one with the rugger heads crying into their beer aswell
Saying we will thump Sligo on Sunday is more complacency. Iíd take a one point win now any day of the week
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on February 04, 2019, 01:15:38 PM
I wouldn't say complacent but I would say wrong. I'd like to know what the full panel is but I do know that when I see certain lads' names on the team I am either disappointed or worried. There are lads in the Under 20s I'd rather see on the team or at least around the panel. Hard work is always a welcome trait, but if you're out of position, nervous, or maybe just not good enough, you will get found out. We seem determined to put square pegs in round holes sometimes and it doesn't always work. The team selection was odd to say the least in light of everything that went wrong in the first half in Newry
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on February 04, 2019, 02:20:05 PM
It's easy to say it's wrong, now, with the power of hindsight. At the time, it was worthwhile persisting with certain fellas in certain positions. It's the 2nd League game in all fairness. Let's be fair, nearly all of us thought we'd have enough against a team who hadn't won a competitive game since 2017. It wasn't complacency, it was just being realistic. The team named was ok. Changes will be made going forward. The fact that you have hindsight on your side now, doesn't make you an expert.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Giovanni on February 04, 2019, 02:50:22 PM
To be fair to HF, if you look back through his posts you will see that he said was worried about the team selection well before the game on Saturday. So I donít think you can say that his views are only based on hindsight. Iím curious though about which U-20 players he thinks would improve things?
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on February 04, 2019, 03:13:34 PM
Do lads want us to throw a few more lads to the wolves? That didn't do us much good with the likes of Shiels, Keane and Moore. Give them a chance develop ffs, we'll get more out of them that way.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on February 04, 2019, 04:01:48 PM
For once in a long time, I have to agree with the Don Master himself. Give the lads a chance, a lot are new to this level.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on February 04, 2019, 04:55:52 PM
I'm all for giving chances to players but some lads, in my opinion, are not good enough. I won't name them because that's not fair. I'm actually shocked they've got this far. That's how strong I feel about it. O'Flynn in Courtwood, Saunders in Portlaoise and Tyrell in Camross are all lads I'd like to see given a try. There are more too. I'm not doubting Sugrue for one minute and he has my full backing because Saturday was just one of those days. He also knows and sees a tonne more than I ever will. But I trust my instincts and in my opinion, at least 3 of that team that played Saturday are no addition to us. Hard work does not a footballer make. In fairness to one of them, he has potential but none in his current position
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: ILikeStrawberryJam on February 04, 2019, 09:23:49 PM
Division 3 will be a dog fight. There is no stand out team in it.
We badly need a partner for JOL.
Dont know what the solution there is.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: The PRO on February 04, 2019, 09:34:46 PM
Division 3 will be a dog fight. There is no stand out team in it.
We badly need a partner for JOL.
Dont know what the solution there is.
If he's any way right, Meaney.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: les Antiques on February 04, 2019, 10:54:15 PM
Midfield has been an issue for a while i think . While Johnno does a good job and has consistently done good for us there I don't think he was or ever will be a natural midfielder.  Quigley probably was the last natural centre fielder we had but he'll be way off championship pace come May/June . In fairness Lillis and JOl did a great job for us last year together .
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: les Antiques on February 04, 2019, 10:57:57 PM
Division 3 will be a dog fight. There is no stand out team in it.
We badly need a partner for JOL.
Dont know what the solution there is.
If he's any way right, Meaney.
A year out of the inter county scene wouldn't have helped him but stIll may be an option . Still not the solution though
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Laoiseabu on February 05, 2019, 01:42:43 AM
Anyone have any guesses on what the long term solutions will be for midfield ? Just say after Jol Lillis and meaney who are all over 30?
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: les Antiques on February 05, 2019, 09:33:58 AM
There's no really stand out candidates presently. When and if Tuohy returns he would be a possible candidate at midfield but not  a long term solution either I suppose . He could be well in his thirties also.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on February 05, 2019, 09:39:02 AM
Meredith could do a job there if we could only get him in.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Batman!!! on February 05, 2019, 09:41:42 AM
Tuohy wonít return.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: les Antiques on February 05, 2019, 10:16:31 AM
Meredith could do a job there if we could only get him in.

He  would be the a right one in there alright .
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on February 05, 2019, 10:52:49 AM
Tuohy wonít return.
He will, but he'll be in solid shite when he does.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on February 05, 2019, 11:31:42 AM
https://www.balls.ie/aussie-rules-2/zach-tuohy-back-turned-tactic-393997
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on February 05, 2019, 11:41:04 AM
https://www.balls.ie/aussie-rules-2/zach-tuohy-back-turned-tactic-393997
TBF its not hard bamboozle the average Australian male.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Laoiseabu on February 05, 2019, 01:32:21 PM
Meredith could do a job there if we could only get him in.
I personally donít think Meredith will be back but I can see Sean Byrne being tried there . Heís decent in the air and seems out of position at half foward . Meaney wasnít on the 26 the last two games(and made his feelings felt over it) so you could see Tyrell thrown in instead of the suspended Lillis
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on February 05, 2019, 01:33:55 PM
Meredith could do a job there if we could only get him in.
I personally donít think Meredith will be back but I can see Sean Byrne being tried there . Heís decent in the air and seems out of position at half foward . Meaney wasnít on the 26 the last two games(and made his feelings felt over it) so you could see Tyrell thrown in instead of the suspended Lillis
Given how Meaney acted the last time he was in a Laois jersey, you'd think he'd bite his tongue and behave until his chance came.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Unlaoised on February 05, 2019, 02:34:05 PM
I just think Begley and Donie should have started ...build up a lead then rest and try players if needed ...

I'm not criticising John or the players but we under estimated Louth esp their full forward line
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Batman!!! on February 05, 2019, 04:35:11 PM
Lack of knowledge here is frightening. Reasons why the players didnít ply are as follows:
Donie Kingston: battling a virus last few weeks and hasnít trained
Colm begley: hip injury and has barely trained
Mark Timmons: another illness and has been in hospital seemingly
Evan O Carroll: is plying with UCD tomorrow night. Has played 5/6 games between county and college in the last 3 weeks.

Give John Sugrue a break like good people and look into the reasons behind these things.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on February 05, 2019, 05:01:02 PM
Lack of knowledge here is frightening. Reasons why the players didnít ply are as follows:
Donie Kingston: battling a virus last few weeks and hasnít trained
Colm begley: hip injury and has barely trained
Mark Timmons: another illness and has been in hospital seemingly
Evan O Carroll: is plying with UCD tomorrow night. Has played 5/6 games between county and college in the last 3 weeks.

Give John Sugrue a break like good people and look into the reasons behind these things.
Frightening is the important word there. Terrifying I would say.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Countyminor on February 05, 2019, 07:02:58 PM
There seems to real hostility to change on this thread. Timmons, Donie, Begley, Meaney, O'Loughlin etc must have 50+ years of Laois combined between them and what have they to show for it? Give the young lads like Nerney, Tyrell, O'Flynn, Whelan, Byrne, Murphy etc a chance for god's sake. If it costs us Division 3 promotion so what, we aren't exactly destined for Division 1 anyways.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on February 05, 2019, 07:34:18 PM
I would agree in principle with that county minor. It would be nice to get promoted, but it's not the be all and end all. In many ways, it is only right that some players are protected with bigger days ahead. I have no problem at all with lads being minded and younger lads getting a crack. My problem is with some of the players getting a crack. In some instances, I don't believe they are good enough. I hope they prove me wrong; of course I do.

Someone mentioned Kevin Meaney above and in many ways his and others players' grievances are interesting. Meaney is easily one of the best midfielders in Laois. I personally would back him to dominate Lilis and O'Loughlin any day of the week in a club match. I would expect Gary Walsh to outscore most forwards outside of Portlaoise in any given Championship. But they obviously don't properly fit into Sugrue's plans, and it is days like Saturday that make you question the wisdom of that. Lillis and O'Loughlin were being comprehensively beaten in midfield in a way that I don't think Meaney would have been. Similarly, our forwards, Ross excepted, struggled, where you would imagine Walsh would not. It was after all only Louth. We were guilty on Saturday of not playing the team in front of us in my opinion.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on February 05, 2019, 08:21:33 PM
Meaneys problems with Laois, on the field at least, were staying on the f**king field.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on February 05, 2019, 08:59:01 PM
He plays on the edge alright, a bit like Quigley. He was playing in a team that was on the back foot and he didn't always cope with the pressure. That happens and Saturday showed that. In a team that has lacked any sort of bite for a long time, I'd make room for him and tell the rest to get a bit meaner
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on February 05, 2019, 09:02:25 PM
At a time when we needed leaders, he was getting set off repeatedly.

Thanks but no thanks.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Unlaoised on February 05, 2019, 09:15:04 PM
Meaney would be a decent option when your getting cleaned out in the air in midfield
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Nameless on February 05, 2019, 09:37:24 PM
If a players attitude is wrong, he shouldn't be there. Simple as that. Doesn't matter what their name is. The days of players being able to act as they'd like, drink, not put in the effort etc and still get on the team are gone. I'm not referring to any specific player here by the way, just saying that if they're not getting selected, there's a reason for it.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Laoiseabu on February 05, 2019, 09:54:08 PM
There seems to real hostility to change on this thread. Timmons, Donie, Begley, Meaney, O'Loughlin etc must have 50+ years of Laois combined between them and what have they to show for it? Give the young lads like Nerney, Tyrell, O'Flynn, Whelan, Byrne, Murphy etc a chance for god's sake. If it costs us Division 3 promotion so what, we aren't exactly destined for Division 1 anyways.
We might as well make the most of the older lads while we still have them cause they are all our better players . We should be fielding our strongest team and worry about replacing them when they do retire.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on February 05, 2019, 10:34:02 PM
If a players attitude is wrong, he shouldn't be there. Simple as that. Doesn't matter what their name is. The days of players being able to act as they'd like, drink, not put in the effort etc and still get on the team are gone. I'm not referring to any specific player here by the way, just saying that if they're not getting selected, there's a reason for it.

Personally I'd rather go down with some sort of a fight. We have a very nice bunch of lads assembled. At times far too nice for my liking. I can't stand watching us get bullied
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on February 05, 2019, 10:39:50 PM
At a time when we needed leaders, he was getting set off repeatedly.

Thanks but no thanks.

And that's fair enough too. Johnno and Lillis got tossed around on Saturday and Meaney doesn't really allow that to happen. He has his uses in my opinion but look, I'm not here to make the case for the defence. It's just an opinion
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Giovanni on February 05, 2019, 10:55:44 PM
Wasnít at Louth match, but I personally would be happy with Lillis  and JOL on the basis of their consistent performances over several years. Both of them were outstanding against Down. Iíve rarely seen them ďtossed aroundĒ in any game. I donít see that weíre particularly short of aggression but we are a bit short of pace in that area.

I think Tyrell could be a very good footballer but he will need some time to grow into it and I think Sugrue is looking after him properly.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: les Antiques on February 05, 2019, 11:29:13 PM
Kevin Meaney will be 34 this summer lads ,let's move on. In fairness he gave a good 10-12 years to Laois .
Midfield is definitely a worry going forward.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on February 05, 2019, 11:29:36 PM
We have no target man and as On The Hop has been saying for a long time, that's ok if you have other ways of getting possession. The short kick out is our best friend and that's asking a lot of young inexperienced players. It also puts Brody under pressure
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Laoiseabu on February 06, 2019, 12:47:58 AM
I stand corrected but I heard from a very reliable source that meaney didnít travel to Croker on Sunday on his own accord cause he wasnít on the 26 panel named. He was a decent ball winner something that we are badly lacking everywhere in our team at the moment . Tyrell will probably get the nod In place of Lillis but it still remains to be seen whether he will be good enough .Bracken from ods ,Eoin Dunne from Rosenallis and Daly from Josephís were realeased from the panel after the OíByrne cup . They were all being looked at for mid field .
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: on the hop on February 06, 2019, 09:03:08 AM
what ever about having a target man in midfield for kickouts, I just thought we should have had some sort of plan b when they pressed us. lumping it out when they had a clear height advantage is asking a lot of the two lads especially when at times they were moving backwards trying to field it. sean byrne was probably a loss as an option on the wing.  Dublin in the second game had a few basketball type moves where they bunched in the centre and then all broke to both sides, it reminded me of something Tully used to do with Ballyfin in the schools football. it was simple but very effective. With Lillis suspended I wonder who will start with the others it seems in the post above gone from the panel.

hopefully whoever does start doesn't fall into the lateral handpass that we often revert to when faced by a massed defense. A midfielder with pace that can break forward and long pass accurately is badly needed but there doesn't look to be too many of them around.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on February 06, 2019, 10:52:54 AM
Meaney was a great servant to Laois over the years but he wasn't brilliant the last few seasons he was here. Just an observation. And Don is right to an extent in that, he was getting sent off when we were crying out for leaders to grab the game by the scruff of the neck. And from what i recall, they were clear sendings off, not just going for the ball too hard kind of sendings off. In that context, his attitude here seems off - in that, if he really wants his place back, he'll have to fight for it, just like everyone else. He can't just walk on the panel. Donie wasn't even allowed to do that last year and i commend the management team for taking that line. It commands respect and shows what kind of attitude is required. If Kevin wants to come back, let him fight for his place like everyone else. Simple as that. If he's upset that he was left out, that's nobody's fault but his own. Get better, don't moan and show everyone that you deserve your place, that's my advice. I have huge respect for anyone who does that.

PS Begley and JOL for midfield at the weekend, would be my pick. Give Piggott another go at number 6. Any update on Cahir? If we had Cahir and Timmons against Louth, for sure we wouldn't have concedes those goals, but, such is life.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: les Antiques on February 06, 2019, 11:24:10 AM
I'd be worried about Healys pace particularly up against someone pacy in Croker.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on February 06, 2019, 11:26:03 AM
Ah come on Tony. You know right well that some players get automatic places. Meaney had every right to look at the mess against Louth and ask the question. Sugrue obviously has some regard for him or else he would have released him. Lillis and O'Loghlin are two good players but unless they move a lot more, they will not win ball for us. And it's a massive achilles heel for us. Ball out and straight back at us. We have to get on and stay on the ball a lot more because our patience in possession improved so much last year. Saturday was a reminder, hopefully, that we need to work harder with each passing game. Players need to be tuned in and workmanlike from the throw in. The line too need to be more decisive when there are obvious issues. I'm confident that Sugrue will put plans in place to right the wrongs of Saturday
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on February 06, 2019, 11:34:27 AM
Ah come on Tony. You know right well that some players get automatic places. Meaney had every right to look at the mess against Louth and ask the question.
Had he not thrown the toys before the Louth game?
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on February 06, 2019, 11:42:30 AM
I don't know when the toys were thrown Don. I didn't even know they had been. It would be helpful to know who is still in there and what options we have
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Laois fan on February 06, 2019, 12:10:48 PM
Ive heard healy is in bother with his knee and could be out long term,also that davy conway is  gone due to injury problems.Then you have quigley,glynn paddy osullivan benny carroll and timmons still out also
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on February 06, 2019, 12:39:51 PM
I don't know when the toys were thrown Don. I didn't even know they had been. It would be helpful to know who is still in there and what options we have
I believe someone here said they were. Read back.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: les Antiques on February 06, 2019, 01:13:07 PM
Meaney was training the other night anyway so could be in the 26 for Sunday especially with lillis out .
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Laois Rising on February 06, 2019, 03:54:13 PM
The big eye opener last Saturday was 1) the lack of real pace within the Laois team and 2) Lack of genuine midfielders who can dominate and field ball around the middle of the field. Louth had a field day cutting through Laois defense with genuine pace. Our half backs and half forwards dropping back couldn't match pace of players like Williams and Clutterbuck attacking from the Louth halfback line. It's hard ask on likes of O'Loughlin to try field ball against players who are 3/4 inches taller than him and more natural fielders of the ball. If kicking long from the kick out we need to get players around the breaking ball. This on a couple of occasions wasn't the case with the ball kicked long to one man that was isolated of support with two/three Louth players around him. Each time Louth inevitably regained possession. Louth seemed to have their home work done on the Laois kick out strategy.       
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on February 06, 2019, 07:21:56 PM
The Louth match was strange in that it's been the worst performance since Sugrue came in. We looked really awful - like a low division 4 side. However, put that in balance of our performances last year and in challenge matches this year as well as the Down match, and, well it really is a confusing one. I think we should see us against the likes of Sligo, Westmeath, Carlow etc to see where we're at. The mind boggles when it comes to that performance against Louth so the jury is out, for me. For example, all of a sudden Lillis's stock is down just because of what happened here? Similarly, some new players looked really promising against Down and in challenge games. More time needed to assess, in my opinion. There were some really alarming signs against Louth, but, I'd prefer to see some more games before making drastic and panicky calls.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Nameless on February 06, 2019, 07:40:04 PM
The Louth match was strange in that it's been the worst performance since Sugrue came in. We looked really awful - like a low division 4 side. However, put that in balance of our performances last year and in challenge matches this year as well as the Down match, and, well it really is a confusing one. I think we should see us against the likes of Sligo, Westmeath, Carlow etc to see where we're at. The mind boggles when it comes to that performance against Louth so the jury is out, for me. For example, all of a sudden Lillis's stock is down just because of what happened here? Similarly, some new players looked really promising against Down and in challenge games. More time needed to assess, in my opinion. There were some really alarming signs against Louth, but, I'd prefer to see some more games before making drastic and panicky calls.

Actually, some of the performances in division 4 weren't the best. It's just Louth are a step above that level so could expose us more. It has to be remembered that Down were missing a large number of players also. I think another reason for our struggles on the kick outs is because we have an inexperienced full back line. Their willingness and eagerness to make themselves available for a short kick out hasn't really been shown. This is very understandable as they are just establishing themselves and might be fearful of giving away a soft goal. 
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: redsetanta on February 07, 2019, 09:25:49 AM
Lads were getting ahead of themselves with the win in Down. Yes it was a good victory but it was the opening game of the league. Save the gun powder until we've played another couple of games.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: les Antiques on February 07, 2019, 09:31:49 AM
Cahir  Healy gone for the year sad to hear . It's going to take something incredible to see him in a Laois jersey again but if anyone can do it its him .
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: The PRO on February 07, 2019, 10:48:23 AM
Cahir  Healy gone for the year sad to hear . It's going to take something incredible to see him in a Laois jersey again but if anyone can do it its him .
That's a disaster for him. Really was hoping to see him in a county jersey again. That said, you'd have to wonder at how a lad based in the UK was going to work out. At an age when his contemporaries like Donoher, Strong etc were stepping aside.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on February 07, 2019, 02:10:58 PM
He would have worked out alright. Pity. My eldest son played both codes with him years ago for a school team and he was and is a top lad all round, always helping others out and always had a top attitude to everything. Not many people would commit to their county if they lived in another country entirely - England in Cahir's case. A shame he won't be around, I think we could really have done with him. Best of luck to him with his recovery.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: BobbyBoucherJr on February 07, 2019, 05:36:54 PM
Be a few changes this weekend, lillis suspended, byrne will be outand piggott out for a few weeks apparentley.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: on the hop on February 08, 2019, 09:35:46 PM
Whatís the view on the team
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on February 08, 2019, 09:55:15 PM
Interesting team.


Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Unlaoised on February 08, 2019, 10:56:33 PM
Me likey .....

Mark Barry and Cahillne to shine ...


Good chance for Meaney to right the wrongs of Sligo two years ago ....

Looking forward to this
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Unlaoised on February 08, 2019, 10:58:18 PM
Who'd have thought after the Leinster semi last year we'd have seen Dicey and Stephen in the Laois starting line up ...

I hope a good crowd turns up Sunday for the first home game
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on February 09, 2019, 10:06:49 AM
Whatís the view on the team

Better team. No doubt about it. Some changes were absolutely necessary. I'm convinced last week was as much about focus as it was players not performing. We need to be tuned in and hungrier. We need to be on our toes and moving all the time. Nobody should care about promotion as that will look after itself if we apply ourselves properly. f it doesn't then we still have work to do. After last week, we have a lot of work to get through. I don't see the point in players working as hard as they do only to go and let themselves down so badly.

I still feel that the Championship side will contain and will need to contain some of our better young lads. That said, it's the league and we're still experimenting
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Chrimtain on February 09, 2019, 10:56:40 AM
Disappointed about Colin Murphy
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Countyminor on February 09, 2019, 11:30:19 AM
Interesting team alright, I doubt anyone could've possibly predicted tomorrows lineup somewhat accurately prior to Louth. But injuries & suspensions are what they are. Excited to see Mark Barry start, a lovely, stylish player who can do it all. Great to see Dicey start his first competitive game in a year too. No room for complacency, but you'd expect there to be enough in this team to win somewhat comfortably.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Heshs Umpire on February 09, 2019, 02:09:49 PM
Disappointed about Colin Murphy
Me too. I'd be giving him a run of starts. But to be fair, I'm not at training three or four times a week! I trust the lads over the team.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: les Antiques on February 09, 2019, 03:52:33 PM
I don't think we have seen the last of Murphy , still early days .
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on February 09, 2019, 04:24:18 PM
I'd agree. It's a massive step up to inter county football. He looked a little lost last week, but then again he wasn't alone. The senior players need to lead by example and more importantly show by example
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Chrimtain on February 10, 2019, 05:09:28 PM
Based on today's performance, although we have some defensive frailties, I think there are a number of things to feel very positive about, not least of which is the number of young guys that John Sugrue is introducing to what was an ageing team. Today, Mark Barry provided one of the best 'full debuts' we have seen in a long time. Up to the point he was unfairly sent off, I thought Maty Scully did very well too. Added to that we saw the introduction of young guys like Tyrrell and O'Flynn. I hope I am not tempting fate, but, looking to the future, I think we have reasons to be optimistic.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Nameless on February 10, 2019, 05:57:36 PM
Much better today. Bossed the game. Still a lot to work on, especially with teams running through us. I thought Scully was having a great game, very physical, comfortable on the ball and great distribution. The sending off was extremely harsh and I'm sure it'll be appealed. Brody had a few poor kickouts but I don't think he could have done much about the goals. Dillon played well in the full back line and I think Nerney is looking better with every game. As I said, Scully had a great game and with Attride and Begley, the half back line were strong and mobile.
I thought Meaney did well enough in midfield, enough to hold on to the jersey. O'Reilly worked very hard and got on a lot of ball. Barry scored a nice point, played well overall but maybe needs to work on his right foot. Lowry did well when he came on and Murphy got two points. Obviously, our main lads were the difference, Kingston and O'Carroll. They worked well alternating between half and full forward.
It has to be said that Sligo weren't very good but then again, Louth weren't very good so nice to get the win, a lot of positives and still plenty to work on.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Chrimtain on February 10, 2019, 06:49:52 PM
In Mark Barry's case, I thought, for a lad so young, he was very lively and extremely eager to get on the ball. Definitely one for the future. (I hope I haven't put the hex on him now).

It was interesting to hear John Sugrue talk of the 'exciting young talent' in the panel in his after match interview.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Giovanni on February 10, 2019, 07:41:29 PM
Would agree with Chrimtain on Scully and Mark Barry in particular. Barry has super football intelligence and calmness on the ball. Great game. As for the sending off - if Iím not mistaken, thatís the same ref that did the O Byrne cup match v Meath and awarded  a penalty in the last minute that had everyone scratching their heads. In truth, referees from counties that are competing in the same league should never be used like that. If that had been a close match or an important one, there would have been war.

The concession of the 2 goals was very disappointing. On another day, that could have been the losing of the game. Not sure why itís happening so often - maybe some lack of mobility in the middle.

Evan was super again today. Heís having a great season so far. He wasnít happy to be taken off but it was the right thing in the circumstances.

Job done and hopefully theyíll get a bit of a run going now.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Nameless on February 10, 2019, 07:56:42 PM
Just another point, I don't think it was totally coincidental that we conceded the 2 goals after Meaney was subbed. Yes, the 2nd goal came after the sending off but I think Meaney did a lot of dirty work, hard tackling and tracking back.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Laois fan on February 10, 2019, 09:00:21 PM
Good win but sligo were brutal,o carroll was excellent hes really on fire at moment.Barry had an excellent debut great vision and cool on the ball,still a bit light but hes very young and id prefer come championship he plays under 20.We sermed to concede every short kickout to then which was a bit disappointing.i see laoistoday said scullys shoulder was 50/50 from my viewpoint it was s bit reckless and mistimed
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: on the hop on February 10, 2019, 09:18:02 PM
i thought Sligo were terrible, really very limited and we seemed to find it hard to get away from them for long periods. Probably a lot to do with trying to bed in a few players didn't help but they still managed to score two goals which was a disappointment.  Kickouts a bit better today but at times we struggled when we fell back into kicking it long into the centre. its good to see a few young players getting a run and murphy looked very sharp when he came on.

in relation to the sending off, it happened just below me scully put two massive hits before hand but he was just off with that one.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Countyminor on February 10, 2019, 10:55:21 PM
Didn't see enough in the Scully incident to warrant a red - a yellow would've sufficed imo, certainly from my angle. We get carved open way too easily. Any bit of directness from the opposition and we look vulnerable.

Hard to read a whole lot into the game given we were playing against a team who in all probability will be plying their trade in Div 4 next year. Nevertheless I thought some of our forward play was top drawer. In O'Carroll, Donie, P Kingston, Cahillane, Lowry, Barry & Murphy we have full-forward line options the majority of counties would be envious of. Thought Dicey & Boyle did well on the wings, throw in Byrne, Farrell & Benny Carroll returning and we've good competition. Still light in midfield, Meaney did well on his return & put in a fine shift. Tyrell looks a tad raw, Johno is Johno.

Half-backline options are looking good. If all are fit we've Collins, Crowley, Begley, Pigott, Attride, Buggie, Scully, & potentially Dillon and O'Connor competing for 3 positions. Our full-backline did OK today, Nerney is growing all the time & Seale and Dillon in particular are very good options. Overall we've a nice little panel developing, will be interesting to see how things go from here. As Jack Nolan was saying on Midlands 103 a few weeks back prior to Down, you may as well jump on the Laois bandwagon  ;D
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: High Fielder on February 11, 2019, 12:59:17 AM
Good to win but nothing really learned. Our forwards connected well and Evan was class. His movement and passing had them under pressure all day. On the flip side, it's still too easy for the opposition to get at us quickly.

Our tackling is Under 14 level and our forwards give up when their man goes by. That immediately gives numerical advantage to the attacking team and pushes our full back line back on top of Brody. I have no idea how a team as bad as Sligo could score 2-10 against anyone. And I mean that with all due respect. Just goes to show that we must be doing something wrong. Still nice to get the win though after the shambles of last week. Scully was unlucky. Mistimed at worst. Yellow all day.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on February 11, 2019, 01:09:47 AM
Good win today against limited enough opposition but we did what needed to be done and came away with another 2 points. The games against Carlow, Westmeath and especially Longford will tell us where we stand as they will all be tough tests. I'm very happy with the way things are going so far and good to see a sizeable Laois support there today.

At last we have very good options in the forward division and the Kingston/O'Carroll threat is an exciting prospect to look forward too. Cahillane was very quiet today but he is another who I expect a lot from this year. We badly need a solid centre back but Scully could be the man we're looking for in that position. He's strong, fearless and very mobile and might have a big role to play for us this year.



Just saw this on Twitter, it's the form of all the teams in the league from the beginning of last years league up to today and we are right up there on top. The left column is today's result..


                 
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Tony on February 11, 2019, 12:19:19 PM
Slowly but surely, we're working out our lines on the pitch - I now think we're fine in FF and HF line, and also, with Begley, Attride and what looks like a very good proposition in Scully, the HB line is looking good, too. Where we're looking somewhat scarce is midfield and FB line, in my opinion. Jury still out in midfield and what the pairing there will be. Quigley has been a good servant to Laois but at 32/33 and coming back from extensive injuries, it's hard to see him participate at a very high level in a position that is the most intensive on the pitch (i hope I'm wrong). None of our midfielders are very pacey, and that could hurt us against better teams. At this point, because we have options in the HB line, I'd be tempted to put Begley in midfield. He's likely the fittest man on the panel, in my opinion. He's very good on the ball and off, and he has high football IQ. He's quite mobile too and relatively pacey. We'd have plenty options to cover his role on HB line. JOL/Begley midfield would be my choice right now, but, we've lots more games to go before we must choose our absolute best 15, and, in fairness, lots of lads are holding their hand up for a place and the bite and healthy competitiveness seems to be there. Meaney did well enough against Sligo and deserves more chances definitely. Kieran Lillis has done little wrong in the last year though, he deserves another shot but for me, not midfield. Lot's of options all over the park, we're really still figuring everything out.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: les Antiques on February 11, 2019, 03:33:27 PM
Agreed , we need someone athletic bedside JOL at midfield . I'd nearly swap Lillis and Begley. Meaney and Quigley are not the answer both could do a job for the last 20 mins which wouldn't be a bad alternative.  Maybe Danny OReilly is worth a shot again at centre field ?!
Yesterday went as expected . Tactically in training  I'm sure we are working on teams coming directly through the middle at us . We seem to be sticking to a game plan in defence and it's currently exposing us .
Good options up front which will keep everyone on there toes .
Sunday week in Mulligar will be interesting .
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Unlaoised on February 11, 2019, 10:36:24 PM
If Heaslin is fit we will struggle in my opinion.

This is the hardest game of the lot .

Horrible ground horrible pitch and not much success at any level up there in recent years .

Any sort of win would be massive.

Hope for a similiar teammate lills instead of scully ?

Like to see Lowry get more 'time and space as John says
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Don Draper on February 14, 2019, 06:24:32 PM
Justice for Party Marty!
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: les Antiques on February 14, 2019, 10:59:06 PM
If Heaslin is fit we will struggle in my opinion.

This is the hardest game of the lot .

Horrible ground horrible pitch and not much success at any level up there in recent years .

Any sort of win would be massive.

Hope for a similiar teammate lills instead of scully ?

Like to see Lowry get more 'time and space as John says

Agree with it been a horrible venue etc results wise and othewise but how is Heslin  suddenly going to become fit?  He's back training less than an month , he's the least of our worries.
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on February 14, 2019, 11:50:15 PM
Eight-point win 'ok' states Sugrue

http://hoganstand.com/Laois/Article/Index/295550 (http://hoganstand.com/Laois/Article/Index/295550)
Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on February 16, 2019, 02:33:32 AM
Boost for Laois footballers as Scully has controversial red card overturned

               


https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/02/14/boost-for-laois-footballers-as-scully-has-controversial-red-card-overturned/ (https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/02/14/boost-for-laois-footballers-as-scully-has-controversial-red-card-overturned/)

Title: Re: 2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on February 22, 2019, 12:17:57 AM
Mid-Term Report: Plenty of new faces for Laois footballers with Midlands Derbies on the horizon

https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/02/21/mid-term-report-plenty-of-new-faces-for-laois-footballers-with-midlands-derbies-on-the-horizon/ (https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/02/21/mid-term-report-plenty-of-new-faces-for-laois-footballers-with-midlands-derbies-on-the-horizon/)
https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/02/19/sugrue-preparing-for-the-first-of-four-neighbourly-battles-in-division-3/