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Title: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 27, 2018, 12:02:32 AM
This is in 'rumour' territory but coming from sources that would be well informed and wouldn't be throwing stuff around.
Anyway we will have to wait til morning to see if there is anything in it.

Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: mouview on August 27, 2018, 12:04:44 AM
Heard earlier tonight, not from a great source mind, that players were dead set against Rochford. Had a get-together over the past couple of weeks... Peter Ford is hardly the answer though.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Syferus on August 27, 2018, 12:06:12 AM

This is in 'rumour' territory but coming from sources that would be well informed and wouldn't be throwing stuff around.
Anyway we will have to wait til morning to see if there is anything in it.

How does a man resign two days after his management team for next season was announced? Surely that’s an incredible statement on the lack of faith he has in Forde et al?

Or is this yet more primmadonna stuff from players who are most definitely past their best?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: moysider on August 27, 2018, 12:14:05 AM

It's still in 'rumour' territory and might not amount to anything at all yet. I'm not fully convinced yet it is true, but usually in Mayo when there is a bit of smoke there is a lot of fire.

Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: weareros on August 27, 2018, 12:16:05 AM

This is in 'rumour' territory but coming from sources that would be well informed and wouldn't be throwing stuff around.
Anyway we will have to wait til morning to see if there is anything in it.

How does a man resign two days after his management team for next season was announced? Surely that’s an incredible statement on the lack of faith he has in Forde et al?

Or is this yet more primmadonna stuff from players who are most definitely past their best?

Might be a bit like John Evans situation - less than warm signals from the county board.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 27, 2018, 12:20:03 AM
Selectors still not ratified I'm hearing.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Blowitupref on August 27, 2018, 12:24:11 AM
If Rochford leaves now it means that Forde and Conway was county board choices and Rochford wanted someone better or of a similar quality of the two that left.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Syferus on August 27, 2018, 12:27:17 AM
If Rochford leaves now it means that Forde and Conway was county board choices and Rochford wanted someone better or of a similar quality of the two that left.

That’s only one possibility.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 27, 2018, 12:32:04 AM
The pope signing that Mayo shirt has put too much pressure on the shoulders of Rochford?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: moysider on August 27, 2018, 12:57:55 AM
Selectors still not ratified I'm hearing.

I'm hearing Rochford has resigned. We'll know soon enough if that is true or not.
I think people are jumping to conclusions about what would have led to him walking - again, if there is any truth in the rumours anyway.
But I do know that anybody I've talked to were very underwhelmed about the proposed new set-up - regardless whose idea it was.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Blowitupref on August 27, 2018, 01:06:00 AM
Selectors still not ratified I'm hearing.

I'm hearing Rochford has resigned. We'll know soon enough if that is true or not.
I think people are jumping to conclusions about what would have led to him walking - again, if there is any truth in the rumours anyway.
But I do know that anybody I've talked to were very underwhelmed about the proposed new set-up - regardless whose idea it was.

Was strong rumours last year that Rochford was stepping down but changed his mind when Buckley decided to stay on for another year.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 27, 2018, 01:12:05 AM
Selectors still not ratified I'm hearing.

I'm hearing Rochford has resigned. We'll know soon enough if that is true or not.
I think people are jumping to conclusions about what would have led to him walking - again, if there is any truth in the rumours anyway.
But I do know that anybody I've talked to were very underwhelmed about the proposed new set-up - regardless whose idea it was.

Heard that too in the last few minutes. We await confirmation in the morning.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: weareros on August 27, 2018, 01:26:25 AM
Often it means the county board have someone else lined up... Jimmy’s winning matches?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Crete Boom on August 27, 2018, 01:36:51 AM
Often it means the county board have someone else lined up... Jimmy’s winning matches?

If that's what is happening then think less hair and more tanned ! ;)
I don't think McGuiness or anyone outside the county would be interested in managing Mayo at the moment.
The team is going to be in transition and our executive will be counting the sandwiches at every training session next year so cheap and local will be the way to go for the foreseeable future!!
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Syferus on August 27, 2018, 02:04:05 AM
Often it means the county board have someone else lined up... Jimmy’s winning matches?

Are you well.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: weareros on August 27, 2018, 02:12:04 AM
Often it means the county board have someone else lined up... Jimmy’s winning matches?

Are you well.

Will feel a lot better if they try to tempt the two Stephenites back. Might even find religion after the Pope signing the Mayo geansaí.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: stephenite on August 27, 2018, 02:27:00 AM
Often it means the county board have someone else lined up... Jimmy’s winning matches?

Are you well.

Will feel a lot better if they try to tempt the two Stephenites back. Might even find religion after the Pope signing the Mayo geansaí.

And ye still will struggle  ;D
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: mouview on August 27, 2018, 09:46:15 AM
Often it means the county board have someone else lined up... Jimmy’s winning matches?

If that's what is happening then think less hair and more tanned ! ;)
I don't think McGuiness or anyone outside the county would be interested in managing Mayo at the moment.
The team is going to be in transition and our executive will be counting the sandwiches at every training session next year so cheap and local will be the way to go for the foreseeable future!!

Surely not Eamon O'Hara?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: macdanger2 on August 27, 2018, 10:25:41 AM
On the week of the all Ireland, you'd think we'd let Tyrone and Dublin have the spotlight besides this kind of shenanigans :-[
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: larryin89 on August 27, 2018, 10:52:36 AM
Mayo Gaa on social media = Machiavellianism at its finest.

There needs to be a study done on it , a part of me would love to type names , all selfish careerists . Some of them should hang their head s in shame . A shambles
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Shamrock Shore on August 27, 2018, 11:28:33 AM
Pope signing the jersey must have tipped it.

Christ on a bike. Is there anyone thinking of the children in all of this?

Maybe Rochford fancies a trip to Longford to rebuild his CV.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: rosnarun on August 27, 2018, 11:29:33 AM
Mayo Gaa on social media = Machiavellianism at its finest.

There needs to be a study done on it , a part of me would love to type names , all selfish careerists . Some of them should hang their head s in shame . A shambles
which is a shambles?
mayo GAA official or the rumour mongers

go one names name we little else to be doing until the FBD starts again
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Rossfan on August 27, 2018, 11:33:10 AM
Often it means the county board have someone else lined up... Jimmy’s winning matches?

Are you well.

Will feel a lot better if they try to tempt the two Stephenites back.

Will someone think of poor Syferus ;D
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: rosnarun on August 27, 2018, 11:35:54 AM
Mayo Gaa on social media = Machiavellianism at its finest.

There needs to be a study done on it , a part of me would love to type names , all selfish careerists . Some of them should hang their head s in shame . A shambles
which is a shambles?
mayo GAA official or the rumour mongers

go one names name we little else to be doing until the FBD starts again

are you thinking about Area 51
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Jinxy on August 27, 2018, 11:48:26 AM
Pat Holmes & Noel Connelly, with Cora Staunton, David Brady and The Mort as selectors.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: weareros on August 27, 2018, 01:57:50 PM
Just a bad rumour then?
https://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2018/08/27/4160971-mayo-gaa-board-allays-rochford-resignation-speculation/
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: joemamas on August 27, 2018, 02:05:01 PM
In Fairness to SR, he was involved in a management team that was spot on with game plans and tactics.
We are the only team that came within an asses roar of Dublin over past two to three years.
he has given a tremendous amount of time and effort to the Mayo senior team.

People need to remember that the majority of the games we lost over the past two years, were mainly due to indiscipline and little or no luck and this year injuries. Not his fault.

When Buckley and McEntee left, I thought he may have decided to call it a day. His legacy would have been a good manager that almost got us there. No shame whatsoever in that. I believe he also has a young family easy to understand.

Only criticism is his inability to strengthen the team with new blood. I said three years ago, that I would view his tenure to be successful if we were in the top four teams in Ireland and he was able to introduce three to four new players onto the team. Sadly this has not been the case. I am not at training, so I cannot comment on fitness or skills or readiness of the new blood. I am not nieve enough to think it can happen overnight.

As for all the rumors etc.
For the greater good of Mayo football, this crap should stop.
What will the end game be, a disliked county board that has less respect that it should have, a team that is not fully united, trainers coaches names being dragged through the mud. There is no upside whatsoever. This is not the premier league where managers get paid shit loads of money. We need to step back and think long-term.

As for the next manager, whenever that does happen, I am beginning to feel that other than James Horan, it needs to come from outside, and it needs to be a manager that is not afraid to make some unpopular personnel decisions.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: rosnarun on August 27, 2018, 02:58:32 PM
 "Following an executive meeting of Mayo GAA, the officers of the board were authorised to meet Stephen Rochford and his management team on their structures and plans for 2019."
not exactly pinning their colours to the mast  nor a ringing endorsement.
who put forward the names of Ford and Conway was it the board or SR?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Syferus on August 27, 2018, 03:03:34 PM
"Following an executive meeting of Mayo GAA, the officers of the board were authorised to meet Stephen Rochford and his management team on their structures and plans for 2019."
not exactly pinning their colours to the mast  nor a ringing endorsement.
who put forward the names of Ford and Conway was it the board or SR?

That was such a bizarre tweet and probably did more to set alarm bells ringing than anonymous rumours ever could have.

“It’s 10pm on a Sunday night and we wanted to tell you we had a meeting to decide to have another meeting.”
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Maroon Manc on August 27, 2018, 03:05:16 PM
"Following an executive meeting of Mayo GAA, the officers of the board were authorised to meet Stephen Rochford and his management team on their structures and plans for 2019."
not exactly pinning their colours to the mast  nor a ringing endorsement.
who put forward the names of Ford and Conway was it the board or SR?

I saw that, the wife (mayo woman) and I both couldn't work out why you'd put something like that on twiter, sounds like their deliberately trying to wind Rochford up.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: larryin89 on August 27, 2018, 04:34:51 PM
Lol hup Mayo.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Jinxy on August 27, 2018, 04:36:34 PM
Would James Horan take the job again at some point in the future?
Is he over anyone at the moment?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 27, 2018, 04:38:21 PM
Would James Horan take the job again at some point in the future?
Is he over anyone at the moment?
Managing Wesport seniors at the moment and i can imagine he will manage Mayo seniors again in the near future.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 27, 2018, 04:46:12 PM
Would James Horan take the job again at some point in the future?
Is he over anyone at the moment?

Horan had that bunch in their prime when the competition within his own province was at a very low ebb. While I'm sure he's a decent coach he didn't do anything on another level to what Holmes & Connelly and Rochford managed to do with them as well. I wouldn't say he's the magic bullet in other words.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Syferus on August 27, 2018, 04:58:25 PM
Would James Horan take the job again at some point in the future?
Is he over anyone at the moment?
Managing Wesport seniors at the moment and i can imagine he will manage Mayo seniors again in the near future.

Uhhh.. yeah, that's barely more likely than Jimmy.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 27, 2018, 05:55:17 PM
Would James Horan take the job again at some point in the future?
Is he over anyone at the moment?
Managing Wesport seniors at the moment and i can imagine he will manage Mayo seniors again in the near future.

Uhhh.. yeah, that's barely more likely than Jimmy.

Yeah and plenty thought O'Mahony,Maughan and Holmes would only manage Mayo seniors once.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Syferus on August 27, 2018, 06:12:47 PM
Would James Horan take the job again at some point in the future?
Is he over anyone at the moment?
Managing Wesport seniors at the moment and i can imagine he will manage Mayo seniors again in the near future.

Uhhh.. yeah, that's barely more likely than Jimmy.

Yeah and plenty thought O'Mahony,Maughan and Holmes would only manage Mayo seniors once.

None of those lads pissed off the CB and the clubs in the manner Horan did. Him coming back in the near term is close to impossible when you also consider the CB is clearly cost-costing at senior.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 27, 2018, 06:27:26 PM
He's gone alright.
News on RTE1 reports that he has resigned.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: larryin89 on August 27, 2018, 06:29:28 PM
Would James Horan take the job again at some point in the future?
Is he over anyone at the moment?
Managing Wesport seniors at the moment and i can imagine he will manage Mayo seniors again in the near future.

Uhhh.. yeah, that's barely more likely than Jimmy.

Yeah and plenty thought O'Mahony,Maughan and Holmes would only manage Mayo seniors once.

None of those lads pissed off the CB and the clubs in the manner Horan did. Him coming back in the near term is close to impossible when you also consider the CB is clearly cost-costing at senior.

Hahahahaha , everyone thinks mayo are broke , I thought that too tbh just thinking this year's early exit would put serious dent in fundraising for a start.  Been told it's the complete opposite and I'm sure this time next week or there abouts it will become evident when things start to unfold . Have you seen the plans for the mayo centre of excellence ?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Blowitupref on August 27, 2018, 06:36:43 PM
He's gone alright.
News on RTE1 reports that he has resigned.

Statement


Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: MayoBuck on August 27, 2018, 06:39:37 PM
So the county board strung everyone along for 2 months despite not wanting Rochford to stay. If only someone could force them out instead.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Shamrock Shore on August 27, 2018, 06:41:20 PM
Embarrassing for the County Board and their earlier statement telling us all was well.

If I was near PC I'd post a Chemical Ali meme here....,
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: joemamas on August 27, 2018, 06:50:22 PM
"Following an executive meeting of Mayo GAA, the officers of the board were authorised to meet Stephen Rochford and his management team on their structures and plans for 2019."
not exactly pinning their colours to the mast  nor a ringing endorsement.
who put forward the names of Ford and Conway was it the board or SR?

That was such a bizarre tweet and probably did more to set alarm bells ringing than anonymous rumours ever could have.

“It’s 10pm on a Sunday night and we wanted to tell you we had a meeting to decide to have another meeting.”

Ballymagash town council.

for those of you under 50 Google "Halls pictorial weekly"
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: seafoid on August 27, 2018, 06:53:06 PM
 Between Carnacon and this things are bad. I thought Rochford would be the man to get Mayo across the finishing line but it didn't happen. They probably need a new face anyway.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Crete Boom on August 27, 2018, 07:01:34 PM
Embarrassing for the County Board and their earlier statement telling us all was well.

If I was near PC I'd post a Chemical Ali meme here....,

They couldn't give a shite in the executive as long as they feel the have taken back control from the players and that those players  or any future county players now know who runs Mayo football then they will be quite happy. Also if it saves a few pounds and reduces the headaches of organising training camps/ backroom staff etc.. then all the better!!

It is a pity cause I would say a large chunk of the team who maybe felt they could go for a year or two more will retire now which will make the transition to a new team a lot harder when losing all that experience.
I expect a cheap local safe manager to be appointed which could spell a few years in the wilderness till there is the appetite at board level to actually compete again!!

Anyone for John Maughan part 3??
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jinxy on August 27, 2018, 07:08:15 PM
Just my opinion, but I think Rochford cost that team at least one All-Ireland.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Syferus on August 27, 2018, 07:08:46 PM
Would James Horan take the job again at some point in the future?
Is he over anyone at the moment?
Managing Wesport seniors at the moment and i can imagine he will manage Mayo seniors again in the near future.

Uhhh.. yeah, that's barely more likely than Jimmy.

Yeah and plenty thought O'Mahony,Maughan and Holmes would only manage Mayo seniors once.

None of those lads pissed off the CB and the clubs in the manner Horan did. Him coming back in the near term is close to impossible when you also consider the CB is clearly cost-costing at senior.

Hahahahaha , everyone thinks mayo are broke , I thought that too tbh just thinking this year's early exit would put serious dent in fundraising for a start.  Been told it's the complete opposite and I'm sure this time next week or there abouts it will become evident when things start to unfold . Have you seen the plans for the mayo centre of excellence ?

Everything’s Rosy, Nothing to See Here™
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Crete Boom on August 27, 2018, 07:09:50 PM
Just my opinion, but I think Rochford cost that team at least one All-Ireland.

Which one Jinxy? 2016?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: From the Bunker on August 27, 2018, 07:13:35 PM
Between Carnacon and this things are bad. I thought Rochford would be the man to get Mayo across the finishing line but it didn't happen. They probably need a new face anyway.

You can get all the new faces you want for a couple of years, the official decline has set in. The elder players will sit on their hands for a few weeks and see who will be the next leader. If a ''Supersaver'' version is chosen, there will be a lot of retirements. They are seasoned campaigners and know the standard at this stage.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 27, 2018, 07:13:44 PM
Just my opinion, but I think Rochford cost that team at least one All-Ireland.

Which one Jinxy? 2016?

I thought he was no tactical genius but his biggest gaffs came in matches outside the AI final (AOS as FB on an OAP Donaghy despite being unable to tackle, leaving Lee Keegan on Enda Smith at FF for most of the second half of the drawn match).

It’s hard to blame him for two ridculous own goals. Maybe trusting Donie Vaughan not to be a liability? Even that is a stretch because it’s not like the bench was filled with great replacements. Honestly, the manager who got that team to the precipice and shat the bed tactically was Horan, not Rochford.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 27, 2018, 07:17:26 PM
In Fairness to SR, he was involved in a management team that was spot on with game plans and tactics.
We are the only team that came within an asses roar of Dublin over past two to three years.
he has given a tremendous amount of time and effort to the Mayo senior team.

People need to remember that the majority of the games we lost over the past two years, were mainly due to indiscipline and little or no luck and this year injuries. Not his fault.



Dropping his All Star goalkeeper for the replay in 2016 was hardly spot on and Kerry pushed Dublin all the way that year also. Can't crib too much about luck when Mayo stumbled into those finals under Rochford and shouldn't all well managed teams be also well disciplined?  Every team get injuries and an All Ireland contender like Mayo was should be able to cope with a few injuries better than most. The biggest problem for Rochford this year was managing an aging team with a lot of mileage on the clock and are now gone into a transition period add in the lack of support from executive committee it was probably the right time to walk away from it.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jinxy on August 27, 2018, 07:23:54 PM
Starting to wonder what the Pope wrote on that jersey...
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Crete Boom on August 27, 2018, 07:26:08 PM
Starting to wonder what the Pope wrote on that jersey...

All I saw on the jersey was Francis and assumed we had finally won the approval of legendary center half back Francie Grehan! ;)
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: twohands!!! on August 27, 2018, 07:28:18 PM
58 days since the Kildare match.

County Board might be in a bit of bother in terms of securing a replacement - whoever comes in will be under serious pressure from day one.

Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Rossfan on August 27, 2018, 07:30:29 PM
2 good Mayo lads I know who could do with a fresh challenge ;D
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jinxy on August 27, 2018, 07:32:31 PM
The thing is, he jumped.
He might have got a little nudge, but he jumped.
How do the players respond to this?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 27, 2018, 07:33:42 PM
2 good Mayo lads I know who could do with a fresh challenge ;D

That they’d be so lucky as to even get an audience with the best Roscommon management team in living memory.. this is the circus you wanted to inflict on us.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jinxy on August 27, 2018, 07:35:12 PM
Jack O'Connor is the man for the job.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: twohands!!! on August 27, 2018, 07:57:18 PM
Jack O'Connor is the man for the job.

Well Donie Buckley has gone so that clears that road-block  :P

Horan or Solan are he likeliest in my opinion.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: From the Bunker on August 27, 2018, 07:59:36 PM
58 days since the Kildare match.

County Board might be in a bit of bother in terms of securing a replacement - whoever comes in will be under serious pressure from day one.

I actually think the opposite. When Rochford took over the aim was win an AI with what we have! There will be no such expectation with the new guy. He'll have more room to blood new players and make mistakes.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 27, 2018, 08:03:38 PM
58 days since the Kildare match.

County Board might be in a bit of bother in terms of securing a replacement - whoever comes in will be under serious pressure from day one.

I actually think the opposite. When Rochford took over the aim was win an AI with what we have! There will be no such expectation with the new guy. He'll have more room to blood new players and make mistakes.

You know as well as I do the mob will be on his back from nearly the moment he starts. The one thing both sides of Ballagh share is a lack of patience..
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jinxy on August 27, 2018, 08:03:50 PM
The core of that Mayo team has plenty of football left in them.
Inject some pace into the forward line and you are still the team that's best equipped to take on Dublin, for my money anyway.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: dublin7 on August 27, 2018, 08:11:35 PM
The core of that Mayo team has plenty of football left in them.
Inject some pace into the forward line and you are still the team that's best equipped to take on Dublin, for my money anyway.

I disagree. Higgins, Boyle, Barret in defence all struggled for form/fitness and need replacing in defence. In midfield Parsons will struggle to come back and Seamus O'Shea will be 33 when next season starts.

In the forwards Rochford tried to move on from Andy Moran but had to go back to him as they have no other target man in the FF line. Doesn't seem to anyone coming through either.

Whoever takes over is facing a big rebuilding job. With the Mayo fans expectations for All Ireland final appearances will the fans put up with a couple of years of poor results during the rebuilding process?? I wouldn't touch the job with a barge pole.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: weareros on August 27, 2018, 08:45:41 PM
2 good Mayo lads I know who could do with a fresh challenge ;D

That they’d be so lucky as to even get an audience with the best Roscommon management team in living memory.. this is the circus you wanted to inflict on us.

Yet to beat a Div 1 team in championship and you proclaim them the best in living memory- things McDermott and Tobin did with less resources or underage talent to draw from. Unfortunately Mayo will not take them because they know even with a new rookie manager that has to rebuild a team, they will still beat McStay in year 4 of his “plan” sad to say.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 27, 2018, 08:51:55 PM
Mayo don't have a culture of team building. I'd expect that to remain the case.

The 96/97 team came out of Div. 3 overnight.

Horan's team came from nowhere as well in 2011 after 4 humiliating years culminating in losses to Sligo and Longford in 2010 championship.

Anything can happen next year. But what we don't need is what happened is the 2007 scenario where there was a knee-jerk reaction to 2006 final and we ended up with a poor transition to younger players.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 27, 2018, 08:54:21 PM
2 good Mayo lads I know who could do with a fresh challenge ;D

That they’d be so lucky as to even get an audience with the best Roscommon management team in living memory.. this is the circus you wanted to inflict on us.

Yet to beat a Div 1 team in championship and you proclaim them the best in living memory- things McDermott and Tobin did with less resources or underage talent to draw from. Unfortunately Mayo will not take them because they know even with a new rookie manager that has to rebuild a team, they will still beat McStay in year 4 of his “plan” sad to say.

We beat Galway, who had been promoted to D1 last year. We also drew with Mayo. Facts hurt you, so try not to use them next time.

Let Mayo have their episode of hand-wringing without making this about you hating Kevin fúcking McStay.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Rossfan on August 27, 2018, 08:56:43 PM
Eejiteen's "living memory" is about 15 months weareros.
If the Rhus are trying to save money I'd expect them to promote the U20 man.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: weareros on August 27, 2018, 09:00:41 PM
2 good Mayo lads I know who could do with a fresh challenge ;D

That they’d be so lucky as to even get an audience with the best Roscommon management team in living memory.. this is the circus you wanted to inflict on us.

Yet to beat a Div 1 team in championship and you proclaim them the best in living memory- things McDermott and Tobin did with less resources or underage talent to draw from. Unfortunately Mayo will not take them because they know even with a new rookie manager that has to rebuild a team, they will still beat McStay in year 4 of his “plan” sad to say.

We beat Galway, who had been promoted to D1 last year. We also drew with Mayo. Facts hurt you, so try not to use them next time.

Let Mayo have their episode of hand-wringing without making this about you hating Kevin fúcking McStay.

I don’t hate anyone. It’s football. Have some perspective. You think Galway would be better without Walsh; I think Roscommon would be better under different management too. And to keep on topic, I don’t think Mayo’s fortunes will improve with this change.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 27, 2018, 09:17:19 PM
2 good Mayo lads I know who could do with a fresh challenge ;D

That they’d be so lucky as to even get an audience with the best Roscommon management team in living memory.. this is the circus you wanted to inflict on us.

Yet to beat a Div 1 team in championship and you proclaim them the best in living memory- things McDermott and Tobin did with less resources or underage talent to draw from. Unfortunately Mayo will not take them because they know even with a new rookie manager that has to rebuild a team, they will still beat McStay in year 4 of his “plan” sad to say.

We beat Galway, who had been promoted to D1 last year. We also drew with Mayo. Facts hurt you, so try not to use them next time.

Let Mayo have their episode of hand-wringing without making this about you hating Kevin fúcking McStay.

I don’t hate anyone. It’s football. Have some perspective. You think Galway would be better without Walsh; I think Roscommon would be better under different management too. And to keep on topic, I don’t think Mayo’s fortunes will improve with this change.

Well if our fortunes did improve we would be in a very happy place indeed.
I think most people would agree that with more savvy management we would have got over the line at least once 2012 -2017.
On the other hand if those managers we did have were not pretty decent we wouldn't have got as close as we did.
Johnno had good panels (solid Div.1 team) at his disposal 2007-2010 and didnt get within an ass's roar of a final.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: BennyHarp on August 27, 2018, 09:21:05 PM
It’s a little unfair by Mayo to be hogging the limelight in the week before the All Ireland final. Get off the stage lads.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 27, 2018, 09:30:52 PM
It’s a little unfair by Mayo to be hogging the limelight in the week before the All Ireland final. Get off the stage lads.

Sure this is far better entertainment altogether.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Rossfan on August 27, 2018, 09:33:14 PM
It’s a little unfair by Mayo to be hogging the limelight in the week before the All Ireland final. Get off the stage lads.

Sure this is far better entertainment altogether.
That's for sure.
Little or no interest in that Final thingy outside the 2 Counties involved.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on August 27, 2018, 09:46:00 PM
Serious money been thrown on Horan now , opened at 7/2 he's gone all the way down to 11/10, just checked gone odds on now , This is a serious gamble . Somebody thinks they know something .
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: From the Bunker on August 27, 2018, 09:54:31 PM
Serious money been thrown on Horan now , opened at 7/2 he's gone all the way down to 11/10, just checked gone odds on now , This is a serious gamble . Somebody thinks they know something .

Horan is 47 years old with a young family. He has a decent ''real'' Job and has various media gigs to add to it. He is on a good number as Manager of the Westport Senior team that has loads of potential from a lot of work done at ground level of which he could take all the credit for should they be successful. Why would he give up most of that for a gig that has gone past it sell by date? At the moment he is remembered as the Manager that got Mayo consistently to the top table. This reputation would be lost if he returned.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Don Corleone on August 27, 2018, 09:58:13 PM
Bookmakers up to mischief.  Same stunt last week at the RoT malarkey. Smoke and daggers as someone once said.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Tubberman on August 27, 2018, 10:04:07 PM
Serious money been thrown on Horan now , opened at 7/2 he's gone all the way down to 11/10, just checked gone odds on now , This is a serious gamble . Somebody thinks they know something .

Horan is 47 years old with a young family. He has a decent ''real'' Job and has various media gigs to add to it. He is on a good number as Manager of the Westport Senior team that has loads of potential from a lot of work done at ground level of which he could take all the credit for should they be successful. Why would he give up most of that for a gig that has gone past it sell by date? At the moment he is remembered as the Manager that got Mayo consistently to the top table. This reputation would be lost if he returned.

Yep, that about sums it up. Wise thing for him to do would be absolutely nothing.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 27, 2018, 10:06:06 PM
Rochford was a class act in my opinion,   utter madness that he is gone.   
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jayop on August 27, 2018, 10:15:15 PM
Feel a bit sorry for Rochford. I know nothing about him personally and he was always fierce guarded giving interviews but it's sad that ultimately he leaves Mayo with not even a Connacht to show for it. Without doubt the No2 team in the country for the first few years of his tenure but mistakes were made that have cost him big time now.

2 big mistakes for me were...

1) The 2016 final goalkeeping thing cost ye Sam imo.
2) Obviously not blooding through the younger players nearly enough, whether they were better than what you already had or not is irrelevant. they're the future and still need to be brought through in greater numbers than he seemed to be doing from an outside perspective.


Anyway, good luck to him in the future. The last few years have been great entertainment with him at the helm.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 27, 2018, 10:16:23 PM
Serious money been thrown on Horan now , opened at 7/2 he's gone all the way down to 11/10, just checked gone odds on now , This is a serious gamble . Somebody thinks they know something .

Horan is 47 years old with a young family. He has a decent ''real'' Job and has various media gigs to add to it. He is on a good number as Manager of the Westport Senior team that has loads of potential from a lot of work done at ground level of which he could take all the credit for should they be successful. Why would he give up most of that for a gig that has gone past it sell by date? At the moment he is remembered as the Manager that got Mayo consistently to the top table. This reputation would be lost if he returned.

On the other hand Horan brought on young lads in 2011 and rescued one or two careers. I'm thinking McLoughlin and Boyle.
Of course he might have to stand down a couple of his 'kids' from the first time, but time moves on and that's what a manager has to do. I also think that there is enough there to revitalise the team, whoever takes over.
As regards his reputation, I don't think he has anything to lose. He probably had the best opportunities to seal the deal and he would not be welcomed back with open arms with everybody.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Halfquarter on August 27, 2018, 10:16:39 PM
Rochford was a class act in my opinion,   utter madness that he is gone.

Agree 100% , difficult to know why the County Board have thrown a spanner in the works, you would think that they would like to have a settled team and avoid the trauma and disruption of finding a new manager, there are no winners from this episode.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: mayoman dan on August 27, 2018, 10:24:31 PM

Agree 100% , difficult to know why the County Board have thrown a spanner in the works, you would think that they would like to have a settled team and avoid the trauma and disruption of finding a new manager, there are no winners from this episode.
[/quote]

The new man was found weeks ago.or so the story goes
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Halfquarter on August 27, 2018, 10:30:46 PM

Agree 100% , difficult to know why the County Board have thrown a spanner in the works, you would think that they would like to have a settled team and avoid the trauma and disruption of finding a new manager, there are no winners from this episode.

The new man was found weeks ago.or so the story goes
[/quote]

Pray tell ?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jayop on August 27, 2018, 10:35:50 PM
Heard a story about a huge sum of money being put up to get a man a "soft job" a house and some nice things money by a sponsor. More likely than not utter rubbish but the name of the manager was McGuiness.


(honestly believe this to be rubbish but sure you never know)
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: mayoman dan on August 27, 2018, 10:36:16 PM

The new man was found weeks ago.or so the story goes
[/quote]

Pray tell ?
[/quote]

Mc Guinness
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 27, 2018, 10:46:38 PM
Rochford was a class act in my opinion,   utter madness that he is gone.

Agree 100% , difficult to know why the County Board have thrown a spanner in the works, you would think that they would like to have a settled team and avoid the trauma and disruption of finding a new manager, there are no winners from this episode.

Impossible to know what's been happening behind the scenes. I suspect the Board turned their arse on him after the defeat in Newbridge. Not making the super8 was a disaster for him. Simple as.
When the 3 coaches quit he was given a an ultimatum to have replacements in place by end of August. His picks left more than the executive a bit iffy. I didn't hear anybody think it was a good idea.
Of course he was unlucky with indiscipline and injuries during the Summer but that would not have been taken into consideration in final audit. Making the super8 was the minimum expectation whatever the circumstances and his fate was sealed that evening.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 27, 2018, 10:48:43 PM
Will they have to change the song to Jimmy’s Losing Matches if he takes this lot over?

C’mon lads. Use yer heads.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: macdanger2 on August 27, 2018, 10:49:31 PM
Constructive dismissal by the sounds of it. While I was underwhelmed by the new backroom team, I still thought Rochford had done enough to deserve another year. I wish him all the best for what he did for Mayo football, 16/17 were two of the best years following the county even if we didn't land Sam

Solan (if he's interested) would be my choice now
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: macdanger2 on August 27, 2018, 10:50:57 PM
Rochford was a class act in my opinion,   utter madness that he is gone.

Agree 100% , difficult to know why the County Board have thrown a spanner in the works, you would think that they would like to have a settled team and avoid the trauma and disruption of finding a new manager, there are no winners from this episode.

Impossible to know what's been happening behind the scenes. I suspect the Board turned their arse on him after the defeat in Newbridge. Not making the super8 was a disaster for him. Simple as.
When the 3 coaches quit he was given a an ultimatum to have replacements in place by end of August. His picks left more than the executive a bit iffy. I didn't hear anybody think it was a good idea.
Of course he was unlucky with indiscipline and injuries during the Summer but that would not have been taken into consideration in final audit. Making the super8 was the minimum expectation whatever the circumstances and his fate was sealed that evening.

That ultimatum was as good as a sacking without having the balls to do it
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: chrissears on August 27, 2018, 10:52:06 PM
Serious money been thrown on Horan now , opened at 7/2 he's gone all the way down to 11/10, just checked gone odds on now , This is a serious gamble . Somebody thinks they know something .

Horan is 47 years old with a young family. He has a decent ''real'' Job and has various media gigs to add to it. He is on a good number as Manager of the Westport Senior team that has loads of potential from a lot of work done at ground level of which he could take all the credit for should they be successful. Why would he give up most of that for a gig that has gone past it sell by date? At the moment he is remembered as the Manager that got Mayo consistently to the top table. This reputation would be lost if he returned.

Yep, that about sums it up. Wise thing for him to do would be absolutely nothing.

It’s a little unfair by Mayo to be hogging the limelight in the week before the All Ireland final. Get off the stage lads.

Sure this is far better entertainment altogether.
That's for sure.
Little or no interest in that Final thingy outside the 2 Counties involved.
Did not see this coming, good luck to Stephen I never thought we would get to one AI let alone two. It was never dull but sadly a few poor decisions cost him.

Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 27, 2018, 10:55:34 PM

The new man was found weeks ago.or so the story goes

Pray tell ?
[/quote]

Mc Guinness
[/quote]

No. What would be the point? Mayo needed a McGuiness in 2011. Not now. The game has moved into the post McGuinness era already. Dublin and Tyrone play Ultra McGuinness.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 27, 2018, 10:59:46 PM
Rochford was a class act in my opinion,   utter madness that he is gone.

Agree 100% , difficult to know why the County Board have thrown a spanner in the works, you would think that they would like to have a settled team and avoid the trauma and disruption of finding a new manager, there are no winners from this episode.

Impossible to know what's been happening behind the scenes. I suspect the Board turned their arse on him after the defeat in Newbridge. Not making the super8 was a disaster for him. Simple as.
When the 3 coaches quit he was given a an ultimatum to have replacements in place by end of August. His picks left more than the executive a bit iffy. I didn't hear anybody think it was a good idea.
Of course he was unlucky with indiscipline and injuries during the Summer but that would not have been taken into consideration in final audit. Making the super8 was the minimum expectation whatever the circumstances and his fate was sealed that evening.

My guess in the fullness of time Mayo will regret this big time.  Newbridge was anomaly without your first choice  midfield and up against a united and inspired Kildare I doubt anyone could have won. 

That ultimatum was as good as a sacking without having the balls to do it
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 27, 2018, 11:16:04 PM
Rochford was a class act in my opinion,   utter madness that he is gone.

Agree 100% , difficult to know why the County Board have thrown a spanner in the works, you would think that they would like to have a settled team and avoid the trauma and disruption of finding a new manager, there are no winners from this episode.

Impossible to know what's been happening behind the scenes. I suspect the Board turned their arse on him after the defeat in Newbridge. Not making the super8 was a disaster for him. Simple as.
When the 3 coaches quit he was given a an ultimatum to have replacements in place by end of August. His picks left more than the executive a bit iffy. I didn't hear anybody think it was a good idea.
Of course he was unlucky with indiscipline and injuries during the Summer but that would not have been taken into consideration in final audit. Making the super8 was the minimum expectation whatever the circumstances and his fate was sealed that evening.

My guess in the fullness of time Mayo will regret this big time.  Newbridge was anomaly without your first choice  midfield and up against a united and inspired Kildare I doubt anyone could have won. 

That ultimatum was as good as a sacking without having the balls to do it

Lots of regrets in Mayo obviously but not so much over managers walking. More regrets about some appointments and reappointments and some overstaying their welcome. We need a manager obviously but more importantly we need a coach. Maybe the rock Rochford perished on ( apart from not making super8) was that there was no coach in his proposed set-up. I would see them as assistant managers/selectors rather than people that can set a team up to compete with other top teams.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jayop on August 27, 2018, 11:22:58 PM
No. What would be the point? Mayo needed a McGuiness in 2011. Not now. The game has moved into the post McGuinness era already. Dublin and Tyrone play Ultra McGuinness.

I agree that the McGuiness ship has sailed.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 27, 2018, 11:36:46 PM

Horan the most likely manager in waiting.

Forget about the job and young family stuff. In the last few years he has had the time to do his job and manage a Galway hurling club and then Westport football.

 I think he will go for it and I believe the moneymen will roll in behind him. Now is his time. Tide or time waits for no man.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: In hiding on August 27, 2018, 11:40:14 PM
No. What would be the point? Mayo needed a McGuiness in 2011. Not now. The game has moved into the post McGuinness era already. Dublin and Tyrone play Ultra McGuinness.

I agree that the McGuiness ship has sailed.

Jayop do you think Mc Guinness would not be a good choice as manager
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 27, 2018, 11:42:29 PM

Horan the most likely manager in waiting.

Forget about the job and young family stuff. In the last few years he has had the time to do his job and manage a Galway hurling club and then Westport football.

 I think he will go for it and I believe the moneymen will roll in behind him. Now is his time. Tide or time waits for no man.

The first team eligible to play Masters football to win the Senior AI?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: sligoman2 on August 27, 2018, 11:42:49 PM
I wonder if Rochford will arise and go to inishfee?

Get away from the mayo quagmire
Visit the Land of hearts desire
Get away from Michael park pricks
Enjoy the scenery in Markievicz

Nuf said....
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jinxy on August 27, 2018, 11:46:54 PM
Putting McGuinness in charge of that Mayo team would be like Darth Vader taking a team of ewoks.
Everybody loved the ewoks, but who could support a side managed by Darth Vader?
The ewoks would lose a lot of goodwill.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: trileacman on August 27, 2018, 11:51:27 PM
Putting McGuinness in charge of that Mayo team would be like Darth Vader taking a team of ewoks.
Everybody loved the ewoks, but who could support a side managed by Darth Vader?
The ewoks would lose a lot of goodwill.

You forgot to log in as Seafoid there.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jinxy on August 27, 2018, 11:56:33 PM
Return of the Jedi was on ITV4 yesterday evening.  ;D
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 27, 2018, 11:58:39 PM
Putting McGuinness in charge of that Mayo team would be like Darth Vader taking a team of ewoks.
Everybody loved the ewoks, but who could support a side managed by Darth Vader?
The ewoks would lose a lot of goodwill.

The O'Connor and O'Shea brothers are some loveable little ewoks alright.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jayop on August 28, 2018, 12:03:24 AM
Jayop do you think Mc Guinness would not be a good choice as manager

I don't, not for Mayo at this time. Several reasons.

1) Tactics have moved on big time from his success with Donegal and I don;t know if he's got other new ideas. Going by his write up for the final this year it doesn't look like it.

2) He's a short term solution and Mayo need a long term one imo. Maybe just maybe these great players have 1 more rattle in them to get over the line, but honestly, I think a bit of a rebuild job and try to get back there in a couple of years with some fresh blood.

3) That style won't play well with the Mayo faithful who're used to going man to man.


I know all of that is pretty negative and f**k it if he came in and won  Sam with 15 men beside the ball they'd take down Monsignor Horan's statue outside the airport and put up one for Jim.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: SLIGONIAN on August 28, 2018, 12:12:59 AM
I wonder if Rochford will arise and go to inishfee?

Get away from the mayo quagmire
Visit the Land of hearts desire
Get away from Michael park pricks
Enjoy the scenery in Markievicz

Nuf said....
But our County Board are a much bigger bunch of incompetents than Mayo. Our executive finance commitee isn't nicknamed the army council for nothing.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 28, 2018, 12:23:10 AM
I wonder if Rochford will arise and go to inishfee?

Get away from the mayo quagmire
Visit the Land of hearts desire
Get away from Michael park pricks
Enjoy the scenery in Markievicz

Nuf said....
But our County Board are a much bigger bunch of incompetents than Mayo. Our executive finance commitee isn't nicknamed the army council for nothing.

Seriously, would you want Rochford?
I remember foreigners bleating about how Holmes and Connelly were badly treated in Mayo and did a good job etc. I don't remember other counties falling over themselves signing them up. Why is that?

Btw, Sligonian, coming from the land of the great master poet I dont think pricks and Markievcz works all that well.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 28, 2018, 12:41:32 AM
I wonder if Rochford will arise and go to inishfee?

Get away from the mayo quagmire
Visit the Land of hearts desire
Get away from Michael park pricks
Enjoy the scenery in Markievicz

Nuf said....
But our County Board are a much bigger bunch of incompetents than Mayo. Our executive finance commitee isn't nicknamed the army council for nothing.

Seriously, would you want Rochford?
I remember foreigners bleating about how Holmes and Connelly were badly treated in Mayo and did a good job etc. I don't remember other counties falling over themselves signing them up. Why is that?

We had a better duo on hand.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 28, 2018, 12:42:00 AM
Putting McGuinness in charge of that Mayo team would be like Darth Vader taking a team of ewoks.
Everybody loved the ewoks, but who could support a side managed by Darth Vader?
The ewoks would lose a lot of goodwill.

I would have taken a Darth Vader if it meant an AI but too late now. Everybody has a DV in charge now or doing the coaching.
Paddy Tally went to Galway and tried to turn them into Tyrone. Now he is going over to Down to turn them into Tyrone as well. That is 2 of the most aesthetic footballing counties being reduced to blandness.

Apologies to Tyrone. I loved the Tyrone team of the noughties. This team is different and height of respect for them and no problem with what they do. I cant stand though other teams trying to do the same thing and doing it poorly.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 28, 2018, 12:43:30 AM
I wonder if Rochford will arise and go to inishfee?

Get away from the mayo quagmire
Visit the Land of hearts desire
Get away from Michael park pricks
Enjoy the scenery in Markievicz

Nuf said....
But our County Board are a much bigger bunch of incompetents than Mayo. Our executive finance commitee isn't nicknamed the army council for nothing.

Seriously, would you want Rochford?
I remember foreigners bleating about how Holmes and Connelly were badly treated in Mayo and did a good job etc. I don't remember other counties falling over themselves signing them up. Why is that?

We had a better duo on hand.

Wha?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 28, 2018, 12:59:48 AM
I wonder if Rochford will arise and go to inishfee?

Get away from the mayo quagmire
Visit the Land of hearts desire
Get away from Michael park pricks
Enjoy the scenery in Markievicz

Nuf said....
But our County Board are a much bigger bunch of incompetents than Mayo. Our executive finance commitee isn't nicknamed the army council for nothing.

Seriously, would you want Rochford?
I remember foreigners bleating about how Holmes and Connelly were badly treated in Mayo and did a good job etc. I don't remember other counties falling over themselves signing them up. Why is that?

We had a better duo on hand.

Wha?

...?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 28, 2018, 01:17:12 AM
I wonder if Rochford will arise and go to inishfee?

Get away from the mayo quagmire
Visit the Land of hearts desire
Get away from Michael park pricks
Enjoy the scenery in Markievicz

Nuf said....
But our County Board are a much bigger bunch of incompetents than Mayo. Our executive finance commitee isn't nicknamed the army council for nothing.

Seriously, would you want Rochford?
I remember foreigners bleating about how Holmes and Connelly were badly treated in Mayo and did a good job etc. I don't remember other counties falling over themselves signing them up. Why is that?

We had a better duo on hand.

Wha?

...?

What better duo did ye have on hand?!
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 28, 2018, 01:21:05 AM
I wonder if Rochford will arise and go to inishfee?

Get away from the mayo quagmire
Visit the Land of hearts desire
Get away from Michael park pricks
Enjoy the scenery in Markievicz

Nuf said....
But our County Board are a much bigger bunch of incompetents than Mayo. Our executive finance commitee isn't nicknamed the army council for nothing.

Seriously, would you want Rochford?
I remember foreigners bleating about how Holmes and Connelly were badly treated in Mayo and did a good job etc. I don't remember other counties falling over themselves signing them up. Why is that?

We had a better duo on hand.

Wha?

...?

What better duo did ye have on hand?!

The one we chose? :o
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: weareros on August 28, 2018, 01:27:45 AM
I wonder if Rochford will arise and go to inishfee?

Get away from the mayo quagmire
Visit the Land of hearts desire
Get away from Michael park pricks
Enjoy the scenery in Markievicz

Nuf said....
But our County Board are a much bigger bunch of incompetents than Mayo. Our executive finance commitee isn't nicknamed the army council for nothing.

Seriously, would you want Rochford?
I remember foreigners bleating about how Holmes and Connelly were badly treated in Mayo and did a good job etc. I don't remember other counties falling over themselves signing them up. Why is that?

We had a better duo on hand.

Wha?

...?

What better duo did ye have on hand?!

Have you not heard of the dynamic Mayo duo who lost four championship games in one season by massive margins but sure qualified for Super 8s beating Leitrim and Armagh and are now the best in living memory. Could you for the love of God take them back and their PR man Syferus with them.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 28, 2018, 01:30:32 AM
I wonder if Rochford will arise and go to inishfee?

Get away from the mayo quagmire
Visit the Land of hearts desire
Get away from Michael park pricks
Enjoy the scenery in Markievicz

Nuf said....
But our County Board are a much bigger bunch of incompetents than Mayo. Our executive finance commitee isn't nicknamed the army council for nothing.

Seriously, would you want Rochford?
I remember foreigners bleating about how Holmes and Connelly were badly treated in Mayo and did a good job etc. I don't remember other counties falling over themselves signing them up. Why is that?

We had a better duo on hand.

Wha?

...?

What better duo did ye have on hand?!

Have you not heard of the dynamic Mayo duo who lost four championship games in one season by massive margins but sure qualified for Super 8s beating Leitrim and Armagh and are now the best in living memory. Could you for the love of God take them back and their PR man Syferus with them.

Actually the duo was McStay and FOD, seems you took that ‘stop using facts because they hurt you’ line a little too seriously.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 28, 2018, 01:34:36 AM
I wonder if Rochford will arise and go to inishfee?

Get away from the mayo quagmire
Visit the Land of hearts desire
Get away from Michael park pricks
Enjoy the scenery in Markievicz

Nuf said....
But our County Board are a much bigger bunch of incompetents than Mayo. Our executive finance commitee isn't nicknamed the army council for nothing.

Seriously, would you want Rochford?
I remember foreigners bleating about how Holmes and Connelly were badly treated in Mayo and did a good job etc. I don't remember other counties falling over themselves signing them up. Why is that?

We had a better duo on hand.

Wha?

...?

What better duo did ye have on hand?!

The one we chose? :o

What about other counties? It's a small country. Holmes managed Mayo in early noughties. Holmes and Connelly won an U21 in 2006. They managed a team to an AI a few years ago. I have never heard of them linked to a job in another county. Why is that. In the years of manager merry-go-round, you would think they would have been in the mix. Johneen Evans and Banty were doing more gigs than Dylan. Why was H&C not out there on the circuit as well if they were held in such high esteem and badly treated in Mayo?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 28, 2018, 01:39:34 AM
I wonder if Rochford will arise and go to inishfee?

Get away from the mayo quagmire
Visit the Land of hearts desire
Get away from Michael park pricks
Enjoy the scenery in Markievicz

Nuf said....
But our County Board are a much bigger bunch of incompetents than Mayo. Our executive finance commitee isn't nicknamed the army council for nothing.

Seriously, would you want Rochford?
I remember foreigners bleating about how Holmes and Connelly were badly treated in Mayo and did a good job etc. I don't remember other counties falling over themselves signing them up. Why is that?

We had a better duo on hand.

Wha?

...?

What better duo did ye have on hand?!

The one we chose? :o

What about other counties? It's a small country. Holmes managed Mayo in early noughties. Holmes and Connelly won an U21 in 2006. They managed a team to an AI a few years ago. I have never heard of them linked to a job in another county. Why is that. In the years of manager merry-go-round, you would think they would have been in the mix. Johneen Evans and Banty were doing more gigs than Dylan. Why was H&C not out there on the circuit as well if they were held in such high esteem and badly treated in Mayo?

You’ve tried this one a few times but what I don’t get where you’ve dredged the idea they weren’t wanted from. They won a Connacht title with Mayo and, like Rochford, took the best team in the country to a replay, and probably should have beaten them on both ocassuons.

Do you think if they were interested that a county like Sligo or Longford or Westmeath would turn them down? Of course not. In fact the only reason that wouldn’t happen is if (a) their plans were too costly and the county wanted to cheap out or (b) they were never interested to begin with. Given many managers don’t manage outside their home counties it’s fair to say (b) explains a lot of the ‘conspiracy’.

If Horan was so good why hasn’t he copped a new job? Or Jimmy? Or Pillar? Or Jacko? The sword swings both ways.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Hound on August 28, 2018, 08:49:27 AM
Always thought Rochford took far too much stick for changing the keepers in the AI replay. What balls that took.
Because Hennelly made a howler, it'll go down as a de facto poor decision, but you couldn't legislate for that and there was a lot of merit in the choice he made. Clarke had a mediocre day in the final, and Hennelly is, on average, a much better kicker-outer. Clarke's final kickout over the line in 2017 was exactly the type of thing Rochford was trying to avoid in 16 I'd guess.

Personally I would think he'd be well sought after by other counties now.

Nothing from the players yet as far as I know? Any chance they could stick their necks out and ask SR and Mayo CB to have a re-think I wonder. (Especially given the Breaffy invovlement!)
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: shark on August 28, 2018, 08:51:02 AM
Serious money been thrown on Horan now , opened at 7/2 he's gone all the way down to 11/10, just checked gone odds on now , This is a serious gamble . Somebody thinks they know something .

The market is tiny. 200e would have brought those odds in.
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Post by: highorlow on August 28, 2018, 09:16:00 AM
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Nothing from the players yet as far as I know? Any chance they could stick their necks out and ask SR and Mayo CB to have a re-think I wonder. (Especially given the Breaffy invovlement!)

You can't wait can you.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Rossfan on August 28, 2018, 09:17:56 AM
Ye've  missed out on this hero it seens ;D

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/former-mayo-manager-john-maughan-set-to-become-offaly-boss-37259289.html
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on August 28, 2018, 09:18:19 AM
Always thought Rochford took far too much stick for changing the keepers in the AI replay. What balls that took.
Because Hennelly made a howler, it'll go down as a de facto poor decision, but you couldn't legislate for that and there was a lot of merit in the choice he made. Clarke had a mediocre day in the final, and Hennelly is, on average, a much better kicker-outer. Clarke's final kickout over the line in 2017 was exactly the type of thing Rochford was trying to avoid in 16 I'd guess.

Personally I would think he'd be well sought after by other counties now.

Nothing from the players yet as far as I know? Any chance they could stick their necks out and ask SR and Mayo CB to have a re-think I wonder. (Especially given the Breaffy invovlement!)

Hennelly is a calamity of errors compared to Clarke , that line about kickouts doesn't wash with me , Stephen is hell bent on going offside with selection in big games .  Clarke is mayo number one , don't change your number one for an all Ireland unless it's a forced change .


Can you explain this year's set up by management , unforgivable show in new bridge by management. Straight up wtf you bringing color loftus on with two mins to go when the game is gone from us , a lad who should of started by right .  O donghue , crowe , what did they do wrong ? What was wrong with ger mcdonagh . What's the sceal with having conor o Shea  , Danny Kirby , David Drake hanging around , years and no  positive impact .

I could go on for another while but losing to Galway three years in a row , twice in castlebar, is a fok ing disgrace .


BTW , Stephen resigned . Seems to be lost on the GAA world since the news broke.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: cjx on August 28, 2018, 09:27:01 AM
Live by the sword die by the sword
Mayo suicide
Get Jack O'Connor
Board tell players to knucle down
play ball and stop the machiavellian  crap
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: highorlow on August 28, 2018, 09:29:02 AM
Fair play to Rochford, got us to two finals and with a bit of luck either day we would've have won.

What's James Nallen doing these days? Always felt he would be manager material or certainly in the background.

I'd like to see Michael Solan allowed a chance. We were a bit of a mess on the u21's final but it looked like we didn't have many options that day anyhow and the team weren't lacking in fight and spirit so that bodes well.

Maybe Solan with Horan alongside him as an adviser and Nallen having a role.

The like of Forde and those lads have all been around the block so I didn't see what SR was doing with those lads.

The difficulty these days is that it's a management team that needs to be assembled, that in itself will be a difficult task.

Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jinxy on August 28, 2018, 09:52:10 AM
Always thought Rochford took far too much stick for changing the keepers in the AI replay. What balls that took.
Because Hennelly made a howler, it'll go down as a de facto poor decision, but you couldn't legislate for that and there was a lot of merit in the choice he made. Clarke had a mediocre day in the final, and Hennelly is, on average, a much better kicker-outer. Clarke's final kickout over the line in 2017 was exactly the type of thing Rochford was trying to avoid in 16 I'd guess.

Personally I would think he'd be well sought after by other counties now.

Nothing from the players yet as far as I know? Any chance they could stick their necks out and ask SR and Mayo CB to have a re-think I wonder. (Especially given the Breaffy invovlement!)

Hennelly is a calamity of errors compared to Clarke , that line about kickouts doesn't wash with me , Stephen is hell bent on going offside with selection in big games .  Clarke is mayo number one , don't change your number one for an all Ireland unless it's a forced change .


Can you explain this year's set up by management , unforgivable show in new bridge by management. Straight up wtf you bringing color loftus on with two mins to go when the game is gone from us , a lad who should of started by right .  O donghue , crowe , what did they do wrong ? What was wrong with ger mcdonagh . What's the sceal with having conor o Shea  , Danny Kirby , David Drake hanging around , years and no  positive impact .

I could go on for another while but losing to Galway three years in a row , twice in castlebar, is a fok ing disgrace .

BTW , Stephen resigned . Seems to be lost on the GAA world since the news broke.

Rule #1 of the GAA world.
It's always the county boards fault.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Hound on August 28, 2018, 10:20:07 AM
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Nothing from the players yet as far as I know? Any chance they could stick their necks out and ask SR and Mayo CB to have a re-think I wonder. (Especially given the Breaffy invovlement!)
You can't wait can you.

No idea what this means?


Always thought Rochford took far too much stick for changing the keepers in the AI replay. What balls that took.
Because Hennelly made a howler, it'll go down as a de facto poor decision, but you couldn't legislate for that and there was a lot of merit in the choice he made. Clarke had a mediocre day in the final, and Hennelly is, on average, a much better kicker-outer. Clarke's final kickout over the line in 2017 was exactly the type of thing Rochford was trying to avoid in 16 I'd guess.

Personally I would think he'd be well sought after by other counties now.

Nothing from the players yet as far as I know? Any chance they could stick their necks out and ask SR and Mayo CB to have a re-think I wonder. (Especially given the Breaffy invovlement!)

Hennelly is a calamity of errors compared to Clarke , that line about kickouts doesn't wash with me , Stephen is hell bent on going offside with selection in big games .  Clarke is mayo number one , don't change your number one for an all Ireland unless it's a forced change .

Can you explain this year's set up by management , unforgivable show in new bridge by management. Straight up wtf you bringing color loftus on with two mins to go when the game is gone from us , a lad who should of started by right .  O donghue , crowe , what did they do wrong ? What was wrong with ger mcdonagh . What's the sceal with having conor o Shea  , Danny Kirby , David Drake hanging around , years and no  positive impact .

I could go on for another while but losing to Galway three years in a row , twice in castlebar, is a fok ing disgrace .

BTW , Stephen resigned . Seems to be lost on the GAA world since the news broke.

That's absolutely fair re Connacht larry. Not winning a Connacht title in 3 years was poor. Although very much a lesser prize, but still a medal I suppose.

You know far more than me about the lads on the fringes of the panel and who deserves a longer run and which of the established lads should be dropped to make way for the 7 lads you listed. Injuries were unkind this year and the Kildare jobby couldn't have been a worse set up for you, and then the likes of Cillian, Keegan, Boyle not be quite at their prior years' levels.

While Stephen resigned, I think if this was a real job he'd more than likely win a constructive dismissal case
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 10:28:19 AM
It seems like Rochford resigned because he was left with no other option, he had stated last week that he wanted to stay and then was given 2 weeks to finalise a backroom team, unrealistic

There is a whole lot of propaganda going on in the county, so you need to know where the information is coming from and what that person gains from that news being out there.
I spoke to Noel Connelly a couple of weeks back, he told me the players didn't want Rochford but that they couldn't go against another manager and that McEntee would go for the job but not against Rochford. Who knows how much of that is true, how much of it is spin from he CB and how much of it is sour grapes against the players that ousted him. Any of those are a believable and understandable.

Its a mess

Personally I think Rochford did a great job, he got no credit within the county. I think especially in Ballina he was vilified for the Clarke thing and not playing Regan, the daggers were out for him locally. I also think his time was up. We were at a stage this summer when he had no players on the bench that he trusted to bring on in a scorching day in Newbridge. Not beating Galway eventually left us with too many injuries. But we had probably our best year ever as supporters in 2017

Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jinxy on August 28, 2018, 10:36:46 AM
It seems like Rochford resigned because he was left with no other option, he had stated last week that he wanted to stay and then was given 2 weeks to finalise a backroom team, unrealistic

There is a whole lot of propaganda going on in the county, so you need to know where the information is coming from and what that person gains from that news being out there.
I spoke to Noel Connelly a couple of weeks back, he told me the players didn't want Rochford but that they couldn't go against another manager and that McEntee would go for the job but not against Rochford. Who knows how much of that is true, how much of it is spin from he CB and how much of it is sour grapes against the players that ousted him. Any of those are a believable and understandable.

Its a mess

Personally I think Rochford did a great job, he got no credit within the county. I think especially in Ballina he was vilified for the Clarke thing and not playing Regan, the daggers were out for him locally. I also think his time was up. We were at a stage this summer when he had no players on the bench that he trusted to bring on in a scorching day in Newbridge. Not beating Galway eventually left us with too many injuries. But we had probably our best year ever as supporters in 2017

I'd be fairly confident he made that comment assuming you wouldn't publicly attribute it to him on gaaboard.com.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: sligoman2 on August 28, 2018, 10:54:36 AM
I wonder if Rochford will arise and go to inishfee?

Get away from the mayo quagmire
Visit the Land of hearts desire
Get away from McHale park pricks dicks
Enjoy the scenery in Markievicz

Nuf said....
But our County Board are a much bigger bunch of incompetents than Mayo. Our executive finance commitee isn't nicknamed the army council for nothing.

Seriously, would you want Rochford?
I remember foreigners bleating about how Holmes and Connelly were badly treated in Mayo and did a good job etc. I don't remember other counties falling over themselves signing them up. Why is that?

Btw, Sligonian, coming from the land of the great master poet I dont think pricks and Markievcz works all that well.

Duly noted; hopefully the revision above reaches the lofty poetic standards you so richly deserve from your northern neighbors.  I thought you would also have noticed I intentionally said inisfee not inisfree  ;D
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Crete Boom on August 28, 2018, 11:14:13 AM
It seems like Rochford resigned because he was left with no other option, he had stated last week that he wanted to stay and then was given 2 weeks to finalise a backroom team, unrealistic

There is a whole lot of propaganda going on in the county, so you need to know where the information is coming from and what that person gains from that news being out there.
I spoke to Noel Connelly a couple of weeks back, he told me the players didn't want Rochford but that they couldn't go against another manager and that McEntee would go for the job but not against Rochford. Who knows how much of that is true, how much of it is spin from he CB and how much of it is sour grapes against the players that ousted him. Any of those are a believable and understandable.

Its a mess

Personally I think Rochford did a great job, he got no credit within the county. I think especially in Ballina he was vilified for the Clarke thing and not playing Regan, the daggers were out for him locally. I also think his time was up. We were at a stage this summer when he had no players on the bench that he trusted to bring on in a scorching day in Newbridge. Not beating Galway eventually left us with too many injuries. But we had probably our best year ever as supporters in 2017

Ha!! Knockmoreman complaining about Ballina vilifying a manger for dropping a Stephenites man!! Sure every Mayo manager from the mid 80's to the late 90's would have been tarred and feathered out in bandit country for not picking a Staunton or Butler or O'Neill or (insert knockmore player name here)!! ;D ;D ;D
I think you will find a sizable majority of Mayo fans went after Rochford for the decision on Hennelly over Clarke including honary Knockmoreman Joe Brolly and most Ballina people think Rochford gave Evan as good a go as any of the other fringe players in the squad over the last 3 years!! (although I am sure the Ballina people you talk to say different of course ;))
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: stephenite on August 28, 2018, 11:18:05 AM
It seems like Rochford resigned because he was left with no other option, he had stated last week that he wanted to stay and then was given 2 weeks to finalise a backroom team, unrealistic

There is a whole lot of propaganda going on in the county, so you need to know where the information is coming from and what that person gains from that news being out there.
I spoke to Noel Connelly a couple of weeks back, he told me the players didn't want Rochford but that they couldn't go against another manager and that McEntee would go for the job but not against Rochford. Who knows how much of that is true, how much of it is spin from he CB and how much of it is sour grapes against the players that ousted him. Any of those are a believable and understandable.

Its a mess

Personally I think Rochford did a great job, he got no credit within the county. I think especially in Ballina he was vilified for the Clarke thing and not playing Regan, the daggers were out for him locally. I also think his time was up. We were at a stage this summer when he had no players on the bench that he trusted to bring on in a scorching day in Newbridge. Not beating Galway eventually left us with too many injuries. But we had probably our best year ever as supporters in 2017

There’s incompetent stupidity, and there’s Knockmore stupidity.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 11:19:32 AM
Sure don't I feel bitter myself I didn't get a run. The knives have been out for Rochford in Ballina in a serious way

As for Brolly, he may be living out this way but in no way whatsoever is he an honorary Knockmore man


There’s incompetent stupidity, and there’s Knockmore stupidity - I'm not really sure what you mean by that?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 28, 2018, 11:22:01 AM

I'd be fairly confident he made that comment assuming you wouldn't publicly attribute it to him on gaaboard.com.
It was made to a sizeable enough group, all involved in the Mayo club scene or at least with an interest
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jayop on August 28, 2018, 11:26:22 AM
Putting McGuinness in charge of that Mayo team would be like Darth Vader taking a team of ewoks.
Everybody loved the ewoks, but who could support a side managed by Darth Vader?
The ewoks would lose a lot of goodwill.

I would have taken a Darth Vader if it meant an AI but too late now. Everybody has a DV in charge now or doing the coaching.
Paddy Tally went to Galway and tried to turn them into Tyrone. Now he is going over to Down to turn them into Tyrone as well. That is 2 of the most aesthetic footballing counties being reduced to blandness.

Apologies to Tyrone. I loved the Tyrone team of the noughties. This team is different and height of respect for them and no problem with what they do. I cant stand though other teams trying to do the same thing and doing it poorly.

The funny thing about tally having this reputation is that Walsh was interviewed last week and said he doesn't understand how tally has it when he was over the attack coaching in Galways and Walsh himself was responsible for the defense.

I think people just look at where he's from and assume that's his doing.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: thebackbar1 on August 28, 2018, 11:50:38 AM
You would imagine that the county board have someone lined up, otherwise if they had concerns about the new management team they should have cancelled the meeting last Sunday evening and the chairman should of met with roachford privately to relay their concerns.

If they have someone lined up, its disgraceful how roachford has been treated, the should of told him this after the kildare match.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: joemamas on August 28, 2018, 01:13:43 PM
It seems like Rochford resigned because he was left with no other option, he had stated last week that he wanted to stay and then was given 2 weeks to finalise a backroom team, unrealistic

There is a whole lot of propaganda going on in the county, so you need to know where the information is coming from and what that person gains from that news being out there.
I spoke to Noel Connelly a couple of weeks back, he told me the players didn't want Rochford but that they couldn't go against another manager and that McEntee would go for the job but not against Rochford. Who knows how much of that is true, how much of it is spin from he CB and how much of it is sour grapes against the players that ousted him. Any of those are a believable and understandable.

Its a mess

Personally I think Rochford did a great job, he got no credit within the county. I think especially in Ballina he was vilified for the Clarke thing and not playing Regan, the daggers were out for him locally. I also think his time was up. We were at a stage this summer when he had no players on the bench that he trusted to bring on in a scorching day in Newbridge. Not beating Galway eventually left us with too many injuries. But we had probably our best year ever as supporters in 2017

I'd be fairly confident he made that comment assuming you wouldn't publicly attribute it to him on gaaboard.com.

+1
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Never beat the deeler on August 28, 2018, 01:25:09 PM
It seems like Rochford resigned because he was left with no other option, he had stated last week that he wanted to stay and then was given 2 weeks to finalise a backroom team, unrealistic

There is a whole lot of propaganda going on in the county, so you need to know where the information is coming from and what that person gains from that news being out there.
I spoke to Noel Connelly a couple of weeks back, he told me the players didn't want Rochford but that they couldn't go against another manager and that McEntee would go for the job but not against Rochford. Who knows how much of that is true, how much of it is spin from he CB and how much of it is sour grapes against the players that ousted him. Any of those are a believable and understandable.

Its a mess

Personally I think Rochford did a great job, he got no credit within the county. I think especially in Ballina he was vilified for the Clarke thing and not playing Regan, the daggers were out for him locally. I also think his time was up. We were at a stage this summer when he had no players on the bench that he trusted to bring on in a scorching day in Newbridge. Not beating Galway eventually left us with too many injuries. But we had probably our best year ever as supporters in 2017

Read the bit in bold and then the bit in italics
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Post by: trileacman on August 28, 2018, 01:59:51 PM
Quite a few lads forgetting that jimmy is the only county manager to defeat the Dubs in the last 5 years so it’s a bit cheap to disregard his tactical nous as being stale. He even done so with a average enough Donegal squad.

To advocate Horan over Jim is wrong, there is clearly one cv which is much more impressive.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: shark on August 28, 2018, 02:06:21 PM
It seems like Rochford resigned because he was left with no other option, he had stated last week that he wanted to stay and then was given 2 weeks to finalise a backroom team, unrealistic

There is a whole lot of propaganda going on in the county, so you need to know where the information is coming from and what that person gains from that news being out there.
I spoke to Noel Connelly a couple of weeks back, he told me the players didn't want Rochford but that they couldn't go against another manager and that McEntee would go for the job but not against Rochford. Who knows how much of that is true, how much of it is spin from he CB and how much of it is sour grapes against the players that ousted him. Any of those are a believable and understandable.

Its a mess

Personally I think Rochford did a great job, he got no credit within the county. I think especially in Ballina he was vilified for the Clarke thing and not playing Regan, the daggers were out for him locally. I also think his time was up. We were at a stage this summer when he had no players on the bench that he trusted to bring on in a scorching day in Newbridge. Not beating Galway eventually left us with too many injuries. But we had probably our best year ever as supporters in 2017

Read the bit in bold and then the bit in italics

I thought the exact thing when I read it. Isn't Noel Connelly the county chairman's brother. The same chairman whose board has pushed Rochford out, and has been leaking stuff all over the place. Primarily through an anonymous twitter account.

I should add, I know one of the Mayo players very well. Haven't spoken to him since this has happened, but he has only ever had great things to say about Rochford and the setup in general. Players were definitely for him staying. Mayo county board seems toxic. Don't know why any manager would want to go in there.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 28, 2018, 03:17:05 PM
we had probably our best year ever as supporters in 2017
What made it the best ever year for supporters? Mayo reaching and losing All Ireland final was nothing new.  Was a summer that Mayo lost to Galway and that lost meant a lot of unnecessary games around the country that would have cost supporters a lot of money I can imagine. Fell over the line against a poor Derry team at home, required extra time to beat a poor Cork team, needed a replay to beat Roscommon and it took a replay to get past Kerry. Was it the latter? as that was Mayo first championship win against Kerry since the 90s I believe.
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Post by: Halfquarter on August 28, 2018, 03:33:33 PM
we had probably our best year ever as supporters in 2017
What made it the best ever year for supporters? Mayo reaching and losing All Ireland final was nothing new.  Was a summer that Mayo lost to Galway and that lost meant a lot of unnecessary games around the country that would have cost supporters a lot of money I can imagine. Fell over the line against a poor Derry team at home, required extra time to beat a poor Cork team, needed a replay to beat Roscommon and it took a replay to get past Kerry. Was it the latter? as that was Mayo first championship win against Kerry since the 90s I believe.

If the man said that he had his best year ever as a supporter in 2017, can you not just take his word for it ?
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Post by: Tubberman on August 28, 2018, 03:38:56 PM
we had probably our best year ever as supporters in 2017
What made it the best ever year for supporters? Mayo reaching and losing All Ireland final was nothing new.  Was a summer that Mayo lost to Galway and that lost meant a lot of unnecessary games around the country that would have cost supporters a lot of money I can imagine. Fell over the line against a poor Derry team at home, required extra time to beat a poor Cork team, needed a replay to beat Roscommon and it took a replay to get past Kerry. Was it the latter? as that was Mayo first championship win against Kerry since the 90s I believe.


It was a rollercoaster of a summer.
Near disaster - Galway, Derry, Cork, Roscommon.
Big days on the road when there was a massive sense of 'in it together' - Ennis, Limerick, Croker x 5.
Big high points - Loftus goal v Derry, the craic in Ennis, hammering Ros in replay, beating Kerry after Rochford took dog's abuse, the display v Dublin (apart from 1st min and last couple of mins).
There was massive craic, massive pride and massive memories - believe it or not, it really isn't all about the winning.
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Post by: larryin89 on August 28, 2018, 03:47:14 PM
I'd agree with tubberman there re17 , from a supporters angle it was the greatest year I can ever remember . When loftus burst the net v Derry , I'll never forget that feeling ,McHale park roar was like one of old , it was wonderful to be part of that.
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Post by: highorlow on August 28, 2018, 03:55:30 PM
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When loftus burst the net v Derry , I'll never forget that feeling ,McHale park roar was like one of old

+1 on that. You have to be there for those moments.
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Post by: rosnarun on August 28, 2018, 03:58:02 PM
we had probably our best year ever as supporters in 2017
What made it the best ever year for supporters? Mayo reaching and losing All Ireland final was nothing new.  Was a summer that Mayo lost to Galway and that lost meant a lot of unnecessary games around the country that would have cost supporters a lot of money I can imagine. Fell over the line against a poor Derry team at home, required extra time to beat a poor Cork team, needed a replay to beat Roscommon and it took a replay to get past Kerry. Was it the latter? as that was Mayo first championship win against Kerry since the 90s I believe.


It was a rollercoaster of a summer.
Near disaster - Galway, Derry, Cork, Roscommon.
Big days on the road when there was a massive sense of 'in it together' - Ennis, Limerick, Croker x 5.
Big high points - Loftus goal v Derry, the craic in Ennis, hammering Ros in replay, beating Kerry after Rochford took dog's abuse, the display v Dublin (apart from 1st min and last couple of mins).
There was massive craic, massive pride and massive memories - believe it or not, it really isn't all about the winning.
well said Tubberman weve had better braic the last few year than many an All Ireland winning team .
the only danger now is infighting start and knocks the the whole thing on the head
I don't think the County board wanted rid od Stephen but they wanted control at the same time.
the important thing now is get a manager in (anyone but JmcG) and build it up again
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 28, 2018, 03:58:21 PM

If the man said that he had his best year ever as a supporter in 2017, can you not just take his word for it ?
I'll take his word for it but I would like to hear in more detail why he thought that.


It was a rollercoaster of a summer.
Near disaster - Galway, Derry, Cork, Roscommon.
Big days on the road when there was a massive sense of 'in it together' - Ennis, Limerick, Croker x 5.
Big high points - Loftus goal v Derry, the craic in Ennis, hammering Ros in replay, beating Kerry after Rochford took dog's abuse, the display v Dublin (apart from 1st min and last couple of mins).
There was massive craic, massive pride and massive memories - believe it or not, it really isn't all about the winning.
Now here is a bit more detail but you have ruined it all by saying it isn't all about the winning, sure if defeat had happened against Derry,Cork,Roscommon or Kerry you would have a very different view now with less memories,craic and pride.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: rosnarun on August 28, 2018, 03:59:14 PM
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When loftus burst the net v Derry , I'll never forget that feeling ,McHale park roar was like one of old

+1 on that. You have to be there for those moments.
and Andy in the FBD in Kiltoom
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Tubberman on August 28, 2018, 04:01:26 PM

If the man said that he had his best year ever as a supporter in 2017, can you not just take his word for it ?
I'll take his word for it but I would like to hear in more detail why he thought that.


It was a rollercoaster of a summer.
Near disaster - Galway, Derry, Cork, Roscommon.
Big days on the road when there was a massive sense of 'in it together' - Ennis, Limerick, Croker x 5.
Big high points - Loftus goal v Derry, the craic in Ennis, hammering Ros in replay, beating Kerry after Rochford took dog's abuse, the display v Dublin (apart from 1st min and last couple of mins).
There was massive craic, massive pride and massive memories - believe it or not, it really isn't all about the winning.
Now here is a bit more detail but you have ruined it all by saying it isn't all about the winning, sure if defeat had happened against Derry,Cork,Roscommon or Kerry you would have a very different view now with less memories,craic and pride.

But defeat didn't happen against Derry,Cork,Roscommon or Kerry, so that added to it - that's the whole point I was making!
It was a crazy summer, the only thing that could have topped it was winning the whole thing and we came damn close. It was sickening to lose it, but it doesn't mean the rest of the summer didn't happen.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 28, 2018, 04:19:26 PM
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When loftus burst the net v Derry , I'll never forget that feeling ,McHale park roar was like one of old

+1 on that. You have to be there for those moments.
and Andy in the FBD in Kiltoom

It’s unintentionally telling that proved to be a highlight of Rochford’s reign.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: cjx on August 28, 2018, 04:57:08 PM
Quite a few lads forgetting that jimmy is the only county manager to defeat the Dubs in the last 5 years so it’s a bit cheap to disregard his tactical nous as being stale. He even done so with a average enough Donegal squad.

To advocate Horan over Jim is wrong, there is clearly one cv which is much more impressive.

Not so
Mayo lost 2AI by bizarre misfortune (& that puts cold machine Dublin
 the media invention into perspective )
Mayo's record of achievement as compared to Donegal is far better
Jimmy should stick to dull boring soccer
Suits him best
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on August 28, 2018, 05:47:45 PM
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When loftus burst the net v Derry , I'll never forget that feeling ,McHale park roar was like one of old

+1 on that. You have to be there for those moments.
and Andy in the FBD in Kiltoom

It’s unintentionally telling that proved to be a highlight of Rochford’s reign.

Don't flatter yourself lad, it was funny that's all , players got a laugh out of it ,Mayo  supporters got a laugh out of it. A small section of ros supporters went bizzerk one of whom tried to get into mayo dressing room to tell Andy something .bizzare
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 28, 2018, 05:48:53 PM
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When loftus burst the net v Derry , I'll never forget that feeling ,McHale park roar was like one of old

+1 on that. You have to be there for those moments.
and Andy in the FBD in Kiltoom

It’s unintentionally telling that proved to be a highlight of Rochford’s reign.

Don't flatter yourself lad, it was funny that's all , players got a laugh out of it ,Mayo  supporters got a laugh out of it. A small section of ros supporters went bizzerk one of whom tried to get into mayo dressing room to tell Andy something .bizzare

Dry yer eyes.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: rosnarun on August 28, 2018, 05:56:40 PM
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When loftus burst the net v Derry , I'll never forget that feeling ,McHale park roar was like one of old

+1 on that. You have to be there for those moments.
and Andy in the FBD in Kiltoom

It’s unintentionally telling that proved to be a highlight of Rochford’s reign.

Don't flatter yourself lad, it was funny that's all , players got a laugh out of it ,Mayo  supporters got a laugh out of it. A small section of ros supporters went bizzerk one of whom tried to get into mayo dressing room to tell Andy something .bizzare

Dry yer eyes.
from tears of laughter  and tears of Joy
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2018, 07:42:24 PM
Always thought Rochford took far too much stick for changing the keepers in the AI replay. What balls that took.
Because Hennelly made a howler, it'll go down as a de facto poor decision, but you couldn't legislate for that and there was a lot of merit in the choice he made. Clarke had a mediocre day in the final, and Hennelly is, on average, a much better kicker-outer. Clarke's final kickout over the line in 2017 was exactly the type of thing Rochford was trying to avoid in 16 I'd guess.

Personally I would think he'd be well sought after by other counties now.

Nothing from the players yet as far as I know? Any chance they could stick their necks out and ask SR and Mayo CB to have a re-think I wonder. (Especially given the Breaffy invovlement!)

I have a lot of time for Hennelly, I think he’s a quality keeper. I don’t blame him for anything. There might be some logic but you just don’t make that change for an All Ireland. It’s what I said when I heard about the change before the match in 2016, and I’ll stand by it two years, any keeper but particularly Hennelly isn’t going to be confident not having played all year and it seemed both unnecessary and disaster waiting to happen. That’s how it turns out, and this is nothing against Hennelly, a confident Hennelly catches that ball all day long.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: cornetto on August 28, 2018, 10:33:13 PM
I can see rochford taking a year out from management,possibly return to corofin to get another all ireland club title and then do a john o Mahoney and bring the holy grail back to Galway, now that would be the ultimate up yours to the mayo county board!!😁
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Duine Eile on August 28, 2018, 10:49:57 PM
I can see rochford taking a year out from management,possibly return to corofin to get another all ireland club title and then do a john o Mahoney and bring the holy grail back to Galway, now that would be the ultimate up yours to the mayo county board!!😁

Don't think Corofin would want him cornetto, they've improved since he left and won another title with local lads in charge, some savings on the old "expenses" from Rochford's time there!
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on August 28, 2018, 11:11:43 PM
I can see rochford taking a year out from management,possibly return to corofin to get another all ireland club title and then do a john o Mahoney and bring the holy grail back to Galway, now that would be the ultimate up yours to the mayo county board!!😁

Idgaf what Galway do . Genuinely thought ye were going to make the breakthrough  this year and announce yourselves as a top team , tbh I was completely wrong , yer shite.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Duine Eile on August 28, 2018, 11:27:11 PM
Still managed to beat Mayo 3 times since January, shite and all as we are.  :)
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on August 28, 2018, 11:31:11 PM
You keep telling yourself that was an achievement , cause I hope that's what your focus is . Real truth is you know ,I know  everyone with a bit of cop knows ye never beat Mayo at full throttle in this era .
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: SLIGONIAN on August 28, 2018, 11:42:20 PM
It seems like Rochford resigned because he was left with no other option, he had stated last week that he wanted to stay and then was given 2 weeks to finalise a backroom team, unrealistic

There is a whole lot of propaganda going on in the county, so you need to know where the information is coming from and what that person gains from that news being out there.
I spoke to Noel Connelly a couple of weeks back, he told me the players didn't want Rochford but that they couldn't go against another manager and that McEntee would go for the job but not against Rochford. Who knows how much of that is true, how much of it is spin from he CB and how much of it is sour grapes against the players that ousted him. Any of those are a believable and understandable.

Its a mess

Personally I think Rochford did a great job, he got no credit within the county. I think especially in Ballina he was vilified for the Clarke thing and not playing Regan, the daggers were out for him locally. I also think his time was up. We were at a stage this summer when he had no players on the bench that he trusted to bring on in a scorching day in Newbridge. Not beating Galway eventually left us with too many injuries. But we had probably our best year ever as supporters in 2017

Read the bit in bold and then the bit in italics
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 28, 2018, 11:47:35 PM
What exactly has McEntee done to keep falling upwards?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Duine Eile on August 29, 2018, 12:30:01 AM
You keep telling yourself that was an achievement , cause I hope that's what your focus is . Real truth is you know ,I know  everyone with a bit of cop knows ye never beat Mayo at full throttle in this era .

Larry would you relax a small bit, this latest drama has you up to 90!  ;D
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 29, 2018, 01:04:46 AM

Time for us all to take stock maybe. I was a bit iffy about starting this thread based on 'rumours' but now that it has happened, there was nothing else that could have happened!

Rochford was dead man walking after Newbridge. When the chairman of the board comes out publicly advising a manager in situ about how he should proceed with introducing younger players for next year, it's already alarm bells . McEntee, Burke and Buckley moving on - forget about it. Chairman giving an ultimatum to have a new set-up before end of August - curtains.


It was all just a game anyway. Rochford probably regrets now not jumping sooner. It was over for him in Newbridge.

There will be no cheap option for us now so no worries there. A cheap option would cost the board too much. There are people willing to bankroll a manager of their approval but wont spend a cent on anybody else. They are the people that will decide who the next manager will be - not the county board. Maybe that is not a bad thing!

It looks like the board was just awkwardly clearing the decks for a management that will be paid for by benefactors.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 29, 2018, 01:08:56 AM

Time for us all to take stock maybe. I was a bit iffy about starting this thread based on 'rumours' but now that it has happened, there was nothing else that could have happened!

Rochford was dead man walking after Newbridge. When the chairman of the board comes out publicly advising a manager in situ about how he should proceed with introducing younger players for next year, it's already alarm bells . McEntee, Burke and Buckley moving on - forget about it. Chairman giving an ultimatum to have a new set-up before end of August - curtains.


It was all just a game anyway. Rochford probably regrets now not jumping sooner. It was over for him in Newbridge.

There will be no cheap option for us now so no worries there. A cheap option would cost the board too much. There are people willing to bankroll a manager of their approval but wont spend a cent on anybody else. They are the people that will decide who the next manager will be - not the county board. Maybe that is not a bad thing!

It looks like the board was just awkwardly clearing the decks for a management that will be paid for by benefactors.

What big name manager is going stake his reputation on a core of mid-30s players and totally unproven underage products? There's a lot easier ways to earn a crust than trying to thread the needle in a county where expectations now far exceed what is realistically possible in the next three years - the lifespan of a moderately successful manager at this level.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 29, 2018, 01:33:07 AM

Time for us all to take stock maybe. I was a bit iffy about starting this thread based on 'rumours' but now that it has happened, there was nothing else that could have happened!

Rochford was dead man walking after Newbridge. When the chairman of the board comes out publicly advising a manager in situ about how he should proceed with introducing younger players for next year, it's already alarm bells . McEntee, Burke and Buckley moving on - forget about it. Chairman giving an ultimatum to have a new set-up before end of August - curtains.


It was all just a game anyway. Rochford probably regrets now not jumping sooner. It was over for him in Newbridge.

There will be no cheap option for us now so no worries there. A cheap option would cost the board too much. There are people willing to bankroll a manager of their approval but wont spend a cent on anybody else. They are the people that will decide who the next manager will be - not the county board. Maybe that is not a bad thing!

It looks like the board was just awkwardly clearing the decks for a management that will be paid for by benefactors.

What big name manager is going stake his reputation on a core of mid-30s players and totally unproven underage products? There's a lot easier ways to earn a crust than trying to thread the needle in a county where expectations now far exceed what is realistically possible in the next three years - the lifespan of a moderately successful manager at this level.

Let's wait and see. Apparently members of the executive were miffed because Rochford's choices of 'assistants' were in public domain before they were informed. They seemingly took grave exception to that. Of course that was just another bit of scheming to get to an end.

The board here is just the monkey, not the organgrinder I reckon.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 29, 2018, 01:56:02 AM
I can see rochford taking a year out from management,possibly return to corofin to get another all ireland club title and then do a john o Mahoney and bring the holy grail back to Galway, now that would be the ultimate up yours to the mayo county board!!😁

Rochford can name his price, some simpletons may not realize,  this fella was the real deal.  Only with passing of time wil you realize, hopefully at this point will you be big enough to acknowledge your errors.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 29, 2018, 02:41:18 AM
I can see rochford taking a year out from management,possibly return to corofin to get another all ireland club title and then do a john o Mahoney and bring the holy grail back to Galway, now that would be the ultimate up yours to the mayo county board!!😁

Rochford can name his price, some simpletons may not realize,  this fella was the real deal.  Only with passing of time wil you realize, hopefully at this point will you be big enough to acknowledge your errors.

Rochford isn’t going to be in great demand at county level.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: bannside on August 29, 2018, 07:14:30 AM
To a neutral looking in from the outside, and one who would have loved to see Mayo win a Sam,  I don't think anyone could really say that Rochford improved Mayo from the H&C era. In fact you could make a case for the reverse.

The player power that ousted H&C didn't end well it has to be said. Larry mightnt be happy at all, but Galway look primed to be the dominant force in the West for the next few years.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 29, 2018, 10:04:02 AM
You keep telling yourself that was an achievement , cause I hope that's what your focus is . Real truth is you know ,I know  everyone with a bit of cop knows ye never beat Mayo at full throttle in this era .

I think you're absolutely spot on in that it definitely wasn't that much of an achievement at all Larry given the overall context of 2018. Mayo weren't at the races at all this year, barely avoided relegation in the league via a point after about 14 steps and did absolutely nothing of note whatsoever in the championship, what's full throttle for ye these days to be honest? It would have been very disappointing if we couldn't have beat the Mayo team of 2018 at whatever stage of the championship we met them given Mayo's overall regression from their best standard this decade.
If ye could have kept the full 15 on the pitch would we have seen the full throttle on May 13th I wonder though? There wasn't a sign of it all year so it's hard to know.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: seafoid on August 29, 2018, 10:12:36 AM
You keep telling yourself that was an achievement , cause I hope that's what your focus is . Real truth is you know ,I know  everyone with a bit of cop knows ye never beat Mayo at full throttle in this era .
That is the way the game is. The cycle of the best teams is longer. 95-99 was different.
When Galway start purring Mayo won’t be able to touch them either.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Manning18 on August 29, 2018, 10:24:25 AM
You keep telling yourself that was an achievement , cause I hope that's what your focus is . Real truth is you know ,I know  everyone with a bit of cop knows ye never beat Mayo at full throttle in this era .

Hilarious given how multiple players have come out since and admitted how much they targeted May 13th. Galway targeted the league and aimed to be consistent throughout the year. Mayo put all their eggs in one basket yet still couldn't come out on top on their home patch. Maybe 6th time will be the charm. Must be fairly alarming to be consistently beaten by a team with an average age of 4/5 years younger. Hardly bodes well for the future
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: highorlow on August 29, 2018, 10:28:24 AM
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Hilarious given how multiple players have come out since and admitted how much they targeted May 13th. Galway targeted the league and aimed to be consistent throughout the year. Mayo put all their eggs in one basket yet still couldn't come out on top on their home patch. Maybe 6th time will be the charm. Must be fairly alarming to be consistently beaten by a team with an average age of 4/5 years younger. Hardly bodes well for the future

You mis-read Larry's post. Have a read of it again and come back with something relevant.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 29, 2018, 11:12:54 AM
You keep telling yourself that was an achievement , cause I hope that's what your focus is . Real truth is you know ,I know  everyone with a bit of cop knows ye never beat Mayo at full throttle in this era .

I think you're absolutely spot on in that it definitely wasn't that much of an achievement at all Larry given the overall context of 2018. Mayo weren't at the races at all this year, barely avoided relegation in the league via a point after about 14 steps and did absolutely nothing of note whatsoever in the championship, what's full throttle for ye these days to be honest? It would have been very disappointing if we couldn't have beat the Mayo team of 2018 at whatever stage of the championship we met them given Mayo's overall regression from their best standard this decade.
If ye could have kept the full 15 on the pitch would we have seen the full throttle on May 13th I wonder though? There wasn't a sign of it all year so it's hard to know.

In my opinion we had a chance when Parsons was still there. Once he went off it was very hard to watch.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Orchard park on August 29, 2018, 11:13:12 AM
What exactly has McEntee done to keep falling upwards?

Nothing since leaving Crossmaglen......good description Syferus
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: mayoman dan on August 29, 2018, 04:45:04 PM
Imo..when the dust settles and after sundays final Mcguinness will be appointed.Theres considerable bad feeling at the way Rochford has been treated so the county board wont want it looking like they had someone lined up all along.Rochfords time was probably up but theres a right and a wrong way to do things and as usual our county board have made a right mess of things.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 29, 2018, 05:14:45 PM
Imo..when the dust settles and after sundays final Mcguinness will be appointed.Theres considerable bad feeling at the way Rochford has been treated so the county board wont want it looking like they had someone lined up all along.Rochfords time was probably up but theres a right and a wrong way to do things and as usual our county board have made a right mess of things.

McGuiness isn’t even a runner.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: mayoman dan on August 29, 2018, 06:03:55 PM
Imo..when the dust settles and after sundays final Mcguinness will be appointed.Theres considerable bad feeling at the way Rochford has been treated so the county board wont want it looking like they had someone lined up all along.Rochfords time was probably up but theres a right and a wrong way to do things and as usual our county board have made a right mess of things.

McGuiness isn’t even a runner.

His private life is none of my concern😂.....Ive been told he is the only runner
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on August 29, 2018, 07:05:14 PM
Imo..when the dust settles and after sundays final Mcguinness will be appointed.Theres considerable bad feeling at the way Rochford has been treated so the county board wont want it looking like they had someone lined up all along.Rochfords time was probably up but theres a right and a wrong way to do things and as usual our county board have made a right mess of things.

McGuiness isn’t even a runner.

How would you know that , I'm not saying it's true or not . The mayo executive members are on lockdown the last 24 hours, usual informed men know nothing , yet here's this little pip squeak from the arse hole of Roscommon knows the runners.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Tubberman on August 29, 2018, 07:15:15 PM
Imo..when the dust settles and after sundays final Mcguinness will be appointed.Theres considerable bad feeling at the way Rochford has been treated so the county board wont want it looking like they had someone lined up all along.Rochfords time was probably up but theres a right and a wrong way to do things and as usual our county board have made a right mess of things.

McGuiness isn’t even a runner.

How would you know that , I'm not saying it's true or not . The mayo executive members are on lockdown the last 24 hours, usual informed men know nothing , yet here's this little pip squeak from the arse hole of Roscommon knows the runners.

🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 29, 2018, 07:32:30 PM
Imo..when the dust settles and after sundays final Mcguinness will be appointed.Theres considerable bad feeling at the way Rochford has been treated so the county board wont want it looking like they had someone lined up all along.Rochfords time was probably up but theres a right and a wrong way to do things and as usual our county board have made a right mess of things.

McGuiness isn’t even a runner.

How would you know that , I'm not saying it's true or not . The mayo executive members are on lockdown the last 24 hours, usual informed men know nothing , yet here's this little pip squeak from the arse hole of Roscommon knows the runners.

Those watery eyes must be blinding you from seeing the news, so.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: seafoid on August 29, 2018, 07:51:26 PM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on August 29, 2018, 07:59:25 PM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

Hahahaha
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: giveballaghback on August 29, 2018, 10:52:05 PM
I hear Horan has told Westport he is leaving, going to give it one more year only and the players have confirmed they are on board.
Dont shoot the messenger.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 29, 2018, 11:16:58 PM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 29, 2018, 11:20:32 PM
I hear Horan has told Westport he is leaving, going to give it one more year only and the players have confirmed they are on board.
Dont shoot the messenger.

Heard that as well this evening, but didn't want to be the one to start another 'rumour'.
A few minutes ago a friend in media circles was told by a local journo that Horan will be next manager.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 29, 2018, 11:36:11 PM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

Hold on. Mayo lost by 9 points to Kerry after taking out AI champions. That was a year after losing to Sligo and Longford under a dysfunctional and archaic administration. No comparison. Galway have been in a stable management structure for years now and if they have made some progress ( arguably not much), they haven't exactly exploded onto the stage. I could argue that they might be already in a transition crisis themselves. I see little future for likes of Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw, Conroy. Some of the newer lads are not good enough. Nice names and all but nothing special.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Rossfan on August 29, 2018, 11:48:35 PM
I hear Horan has told Westport he is leaving, going to give it one more year only and the players have confirmed they are on board.
Dont shoot the messenger.
Obviously our 2 bucks staying with us for 2019 so :-\
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 29, 2018, 11:51:13 PM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

Hold on. Mayo lost by 9 points to Kerry after taking out AI champions. That was a year after losing to Sligo and Longford under a dysfunctional and archaic administration. No comparison. Galway have been in a stable management structure for years now and if they have made some progress ( arguably not much), they haven't exactly exploded onto the stage. I could argue that they might be already in a transition crisis themselves. I see little future for likes of Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw, Conroy. Some of the newer lads are not good enough. Nice names and all but nothing special.

O'Donnell is already off the team and on the bench and only going one way with Molloy emerging, Silke back next year and maybe McDaid back also. Conroy has a few years left in him yet but no shortage of good young midfielders coming through under him anyway so even if he walked away tomorrow they'd be ok. Bradshaw is the only close to retirement player left starting regularly really. Probably had his best year in a long time but realistically will probably only play another year or two. We'll see if he can hang onto his spot for one more year. I think the half-back line will look a lot different next year.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Orchard park on August 29, 2018, 11:54:12 PM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

#only2countiesinconnacht
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 29, 2018, 11:56:55 PM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

I want some of your ganja. Seems like good stuff.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: fearsiuil on August 30, 2018, 12:01:29 AM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

I want some of your ganja. Seems like good stuff.
Syferus the Merciless.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 30, 2018, 12:14:21 AM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

Hold on. Mayo lost by 9 points to Kerry after taking out AI champions. That was a year after losing to Sligo and Longford under a dysfunctional and archaic administration. No comparison. Galway have been in a stable management structure for years now and if they have made some progress ( arguably not much), they haven't exactly exploded onto the stage. I could argue that they might be already in a transition crisis themselves. I see little future for likes of Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw, Conroy. Some of the newer lads are not good enough. Nice names and all but nothing special.

The AI champions of 2010 that reached what one AI semi final since then and are now established Div 2 mid table team? To reach the semi final this summer Galway took out Kerry don't forget.

The Mayo performance in London 2011 was probably worse than the performances v Longford,Sligo and Mayo were less than convincing against a very average Galway or Roscommon who went into that championship having played their league football in Div 4.

Galway have gone from losing to Antrim and Sligo not so long ago in the championship to now reaching AI final semi final and NFL Div one final and thats good progress. Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw will be replaced by better defenders the returning Liam Silke for example. Their team is mostly young and learning and have plenty of good players to come through.

Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 30, 2018, 12:23:46 AM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

Hold on. Mayo lost by 9 points to Kerry after taking out AI champions. That was a year after losing to Sligo and Longford under a dysfunctional and archaic administration. No comparison. Galway have been in a stable management structure for years now and if they have made some progress ( arguably not much), they haven't exactly exploded onto the stage. I could argue that they might be already in a transition crisis themselves. I see little future for likes of Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw, Conroy. Some of the newer lads are not good enough. Nice names and all but nothing special.

The AI champions of 2010 that reached what one AI semi final since then and are now established Div 2 mid table team? To reach the semi final this summer Galway took out Kerry don't forget.

The Mayo performance in London 2011 was probably worse than the performances v Longford,Sligo and Mayo were less than convincing against a very average Galway or Roscommon who went into that championship having played their league football in Div 4.

Galway have gone from losing to Antrim and Sligo not so long ago in the championship to now reaching AI final semi final and NFL Div one final and thats good progress. Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw will be replaced by better defenders the returning Liam Silke for example. Their team is mostly young and learning and have plenty of good players to come through.

Liam Silke, so good he can place two players..
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: fearbrags on August 30, 2018, 12:40:51 AM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

I want some of your ganja. Seems like good stuff.
Well nobody wants yours ;)
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 30, 2018, 01:01:31 AM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

Hold on. Mayo lost by 9 points to Kerry after taking out AI champions. That was a year after losing to Sligo and Longford under a dysfunctional and archaic administration. No comparison. Galway have been in a stable management structure for years now and if they have made some progress ( arguably not much), they haven't exactly exploded onto the stage. I could argue that they might be already in a transition crisis themselves. I see little future for likes of Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw, Conroy. Some of the newer lads are not good enough. Nice names and all but nothing special.

The AI champions of 2010 that reached what one AI semi final since then and are now established Div 2 mid table team? To reach the semi final this summer Galway took out Kerry don't forget.

The Mayo performance in London 2011 was probably worse than the performances v Longford,Sligo and Mayo were less than convincing against a very average Galway or Roscommon who went into that championship having played their league football in Div 4.

Galway have gone from losing to Antrim and Sligo not so long ago in the championship to now reaching AI final semi final and NFL Div one final and thats good progress. Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw will be replaced by better defenders the returning Liam Silke for example. Their team is mostly young and learning and have plenty of good players to come through.

Sure. I appreciate that. My point is that Galway's improvement has been little steps in the grand scheme of things. They also had to resort to a negative game plan to make any progress at all. I wouldn't put too much value on that Kerry win. Probably the worst Kerry team in living memory.
 Horan got a team from ashes to an AI in 2 years when there were good teams about. Years of team building is passé. You don't know if there are better players coming through until they play against the big boys.  Managers have a short enough shelf life. I suspect that Kevin Walsh has probably come to the end of his curve.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 30, 2018, 01:15:24 AM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

Hold on. Mayo lost by 9 points to Kerry after taking out AI champions. That was a year after losing to Sligo and Longford under a dysfunctional and archaic administration. No comparison. Galway have been in a stable management structure for years now and if they have made some progress ( arguably not much), they haven't exactly exploded onto the stage. I could argue that they might be already in a transition crisis themselves. I see little future for likes of Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw, Conroy. Some of the newer lads are not good enough. Nice names and all but nothing special.

The AI champions of 2010 that reached what one AI semi final since then and are now established Div 2 mid table team? To reach the semi final this summer Galway took out Kerry don't forget.

The Mayo performance in London 2011 was probably worse than the performances v Longford,Sligo and Mayo were less than convincing against a very average Galway or Roscommon who went into that championship having played their league football in Div 4.

Galway have gone from losing to Antrim and Sligo not so long ago in the championship to now reaching AI final semi final and NFL Div one final and thats good progress. Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw will be replaced by better defenders the returning Liam Silke for example. Their team is mostly young and learning and have plenty of good players to come through.

Sure. I appreciate that. My point is that Galway's improvement has been little steps in the grand scheme of things. They also had to resort to a negative game plan to make any progress at all. I wouldn't put too much value on that Kerry win. Probably the worst Kerry team in living memory.
 Horan got a team from ashes to an AI in 2 years when there were good teams about. Years of team building is passé. You don't know if there are better players coming through until they play against the big boys.  Managers have a short enough shelf life. I suspect that Kevin Walsh has probably come to the end of his curve.

Horan had a team that won a Connacht in 2009 and had been in D1 for more than a decade when he took over. There's some serious myth-making surrounding that lad. Sure, ye lost to Longford but to pretend that tells the whole picture would be incredibly disingenuous.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on August 30, 2018, 01:21:57 AM
We had lost to Sligo too , we were a shambles . Horan turned fringe/average players into all stars , household names .  He put a steel into Mayo that was never evident in my lifetime . They are his babies
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 30, 2018, 01:26:24 AM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

Hold on. Mayo lost by 9 points to Kerry after taking out AI champions. That was a year after losing to Sligo and Longford under a dysfunctional and archaic administration. No comparison. Galway have been in a stable management structure for years now and if they have made some progress ( arguably not much), they haven't exactly exploded onto the stage. I could argue that they might be already in a transition crisis themselves. I see little future for likes of Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw, Conroy. Some of the newer lads are not good enough. Nice names and all but nothing special.

The AI champions of 2010 that reached what one AI semi final since then and are now established Div 2 mid table team? To reach the semi final this summer Galway took out Kerry don't forget.

The Mayo performance in London 2011 was probably worse than the performances v Longford,Sligo and Mayo were less than convincing against a very average Galway or Roscommon who went into that championship having played their league football in Div 4.

Galway have gone from losing to Antrim and Sligo not so long ago in the championship to now reaching AI final semi final and NFL Div one final and thats good progress. Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw will be replaced by better defenders the returning Liam Silke for example. Their team is mostly young and learning and have plenty of good players to come through.

Sure. I appreciate that. My point is that Galway's improvement has been little steps in the grand scheme of things. They also had to resort to a negative game plan to make any progress at all. I wouldn't put too much value on that Kerry win. Probably the worst Kerry team in living memory.
 Horan got a team from ashes to an AI in 2 years when there were good teams about. Years of team building is passé. You don't know if there are better players coming through until they play against the big boys.  Managers have a short enough shelf life. I suspect that Kevin Walsh has probably come to the end of his curve.

Horan had a team that won a Connacht in 2009 and had been in D1 for more than a decade when he took over. There's some serious myth-making surrounding that lad. Sure, ye lost to Longford but to pretend that tells the whole picture would be incredibly disingenuous.

Not disingenuous at all. Championship is the only show in town and we regresses from 06-10. There was a solid Div. 1 team there but nothing in summer when it mattered.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 30, 2018, 01:27:02 AM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

Hold on. Mayo lost by 9 points to Kerry after taking out AI champions. That was a year after losing to Sligo and Longford under a dysfunctional and archaic administration. No comparison. Galway have been in a stable management structure for years now and if they have made some progress ( arguably not much), they haven't exactly exploded onto the stage. I could argue that they might be already in a transition crisis themselves. I see little future for likes of Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw, Conroy. Some of the newer lads are not good enough. Nice names and all but nothing special.

The AI champions of 2010 that reached what one AI semi final since then and are now established Div 2 mid table team? To reach the semi final this summer Galway took out Kerry don't forget.

The Mayo performance in London 2011 was probably worse than the performances v Longford,Sligo and Mayo were less than convincing against a very average Galway or Roscommon who went into that championship having played their league football in Div 4.

Galway have gone from losing to Antrim and Sligo not so long ago in the championship to now reaching AI final semi final and NFL Div one final and thats good progress. Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw will be replaced by better defenders the returning Liam Silke for example. Their team is mostly young and learning and have plenty of good players to come through.

Sure. I appreciate that. My point is that Galway's improvement has been little steps in the grand scheme of things. They also had to resort to a negative game plan to make any progress at all. I wouldn't put too much value on that Kerry win. Probably the worst Kerry team in living memory.
 Horan got a team from ashes to an AI in 2 years when there were good teams about. Years of team building is passé. You don't know if there are better players coming through until they play against the big boys.  Managers have a short enough shelf life. I suspect that Kevin Walsh has probably come to the end of his curve.

Wasn't a whole lot of difference between Kerry this summer and Cork 2011 was my point and Kerry will improve from now on Cork fell back badly after their AI win in 2010. Do you think the likes of O'Donnell,Bradshaw have stood out much against the big boys?

Mayo had won a Connacht championship in 2009 and was established Div one team when Horan took them on they were Div one finalist in 2010.  If Kevin Walsh has come to end of his curve he'll have left Galway in a far better position from there were before he arrived. Dublin included football today is built on a lot of negative football and what Walsh has brought in is much needed organisation and platform to build and progress further.   
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: maigheo on August 30, 2018, 01:27:14 AM
We had lost to Sligo too , we were a shambles . Horan turned fringe/average players into all stars , household names .  He put a steel into Mayo that was never evident in my lifetime . They are his babies
Would agree with all that and ignore Syferus for obvious reasons
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 30, 2018, 01:28:47 AM
We had lost to Sligo too , we were a shambles . Horan turned fringe/average players into all stars , household names .  He put a steel into Mayo that was never evident in my lifetime . They are his babies

Most of the players he inherited were babes as seniors who were only likely to get better no matter what. Only really lads like Boyle or Cunniffe could I point to as bolters in Horan's reign that were close to write-offs. In fact he was pretty horrendous at developing new players who weren't there at the start of his reign. By 2014 Mayo were already crying out for some new bodies but he didn't trust himself to develop them or to take the field at all in many cases. Evan Regan is unlikely to be enamoured by rumours of his return and he's probably the best underage forward Mayo produced the last ten years or so. Y'know, the position that Mayo have continually failed in.

Mayo were losing AIs in ridiculous manners before the Cap arrived, and they were losing them in ridiculous ways after he left too. Hard as it is to hear, he turned out to be another brick in the same wall rather than the messiah some in Mayo still see him as.

Second comings rarely go well.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 30, 2018, 01:38:48 AM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

Hold on. Mayo lost by 9 points to Kerry after taking out AI champions. That was a year after losing to Sligo and Longford under a dysfunctional and archaic administration. No comparison. Galway have been in a stable management structure for years now and if they have made some progress ( arguably not much), they haven't exactly exploded onto the stage. I could argue that they might be already in a transition crisis themselves. I see little future for likes of Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw, Conroy. Some of the newer lads are not good enough. Nice names and all but nothing special.

The AI champions of 2010 that reached what one AI semi final since then and are now established Div 2 mid table team? To reach the semi final this summer Galway took out Kerry don't forget.

The Mayo performance in London 2011 was probably worse than the performances v Longford,Sligo and Mayo were less than convincing against a very average Galway or Roscommon who went into that championship having played their league football in Div 4.

Galway have gone from losing to Antrim and Sligo not so long ago in the championship to now reaching AI final semi final and NFL Div one final and thats good progress. Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw will be replaced by better defenders the returning Liam Silke for example. Their team is mostly young and learning and have plenty of good players to come through.

Sure. I appreciate that. My point is that Galway's improvement has been little steps in the grand scheme of things. They also had to resort to a negative game plan to make any progress at all. I wouldn't put too much value on that Kerry win. Probably the worst Kerry team in living memory.
 Horan got a team from ashes to an AI in 2 years when there were good teams about. Years of team building is passé. You don't know if there are better players coming through until they play against the big boys.  Managers have a short enough shelf life. I suspect that Kevin Walsh has probably come to the end of his curve.

Wasn't a whole lot of difference between Kerry this summer and Cork 2011 was my point and Kerry will improve from now on Cork fell back badly after their AI win in 2010. Do you think the likes of O'Donnell,Bradshaw have stood out much against the big boys?

Mayo had won a Connacht championship in 2009 and was established Div one team when Horan took them on they were Div one finalist in 2010.  If Kevin Walsh has come to end of his curve he'll have left Galway in a far better position from there were before he arrived. Dublin included football today is built on a lot of negative football and what Walsh has brought in is much needed organisation and platform to build and progress further.

I don't think Galway were ever badly organised. Not so long ago Galway had Joe Kernan. I cant imagine his teams not 'organised'. Or any of the managers since.  My point is that progress needs to be fast and explosive. Mayo nearly did that.
While others are tweaking and developing likes of Dublin are disappearing over the horizon at a rate of knots.



Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: maigheo on August 30, 2018, 01:39:35 AM
Jaysus Syf will you stop bleating on about Evan Regan who is just not county standard If I recall you were saying the same thing back in 2013 after Horan dropped him from the panel and I suspect his father being from Roscommon is the only reason you rate him
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 30, 2018, 01:48:51 AM

Anyway it looks like Horan at this stage. If so, best of luck to him. He deserves another shot, if he wants it but, to paraphrase F Scott Fitzgerald;

' there are no second acts in Mayo managers' lives'

But hey, don't mind me. I've always been a glass half empty one.

Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 30, 2018, 02:06:23 AM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

Hold on. Mayo lost by 9 points to Kerry after taking out AI champions. That was a year after losing to Sligo and Longford under a dysfunctional and archaic administration. No comparison. Galway have been in a stable management structure for years now and if they have made some progress ( arguably not much), they haven't exactly exploded onto the stage. I could argue that they might be already in a transition crisis themselves. I see little future for likes of Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw, Conroy. Some of the newer lads are not good enough. Nice names and all but nothing special.

The AI champions of 2010 that reached what one AI semi final since then and are now established Div 2 mid table team? To reach the semi final this summer Galway took out Kerry don't forget.

The Mayo performance in London 2011 was probably worse than the performances v Longford,Sligo and Mayo were less than convincing against a very average Galway or Roscommon who went into that championship having played their league football in Div 4.

Galway have gone from losing to Antrim and Sligo not so long ago in the championship to now reaching AI final semi final and NFL Div one final and thats good progress. Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw will be replaced by better defenders the returning Liam Silke for example. Their team is mostly young and learning and have plenty of good players to come through.

Sure. I appreciate that. My point is that Galway's improvement has been little steps in the grand scheme of things. They also had to resort to a negative game plan to make any progress at all. I wouldn't put too much value on that Kerry win. Probably the worst Kerry team in living memory.
 Horan got a team from ashes to an AI in 2 years when there were good teams about. Years of team building is passé. You don't know if there are better players coming through until they play against the big boys.  Managers have a short enough shelf life. I suspect that Kevin Walsh has probably come to the end of his curve.

Wasn't a whole lot of difference between Kerry this summer and Cork 2011 was my point and Kerry will improve from now on Cork fell back badly after their AI win in 2010. Do you think the likes of O'Donnell,Bradshaw have stood out much against the big boys?

Mayo had won a Connacht championship in 2009 and was established Div one team when Horan took them on they were Div one finalist in 2010.  If Kevin Walsh has come to end of his curve he'll have left Galway in a far better position from there were before he arrived. Dublin included football today is built on a lot of negative football and what Walsh has brought in is much needed organisation and platform to build and progress further.

I don't think Galway were ever badly organised. Not so long ago Galway had Joe Kernan. I cant imagine his teams not 'organised'. Or any of the managers since.  My point is that progress needs to be fast and explosive. Mayo nearly did that.
While others are tweaking and developing likes of Dublin are disappearing over the horizon at a rate of knots.

Don't have to imagine it was the case. Some big named managers that were well looked after by Galways county board but their sides was poorly organised and a lot of their players weren't fit or strong enough to make any impact at senior championship level. Progress is progress and we'll see where Galway's progress from this year will take them now in the years ahead.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Halfquarter on August 30, 2018, 07:32:28 AM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

Hold on. Mayo lost by 9 points to Kerry after taking out AI champions. That was a year after losing to Sligo and Longford under a dysfunctional and archaic administration. No comparison. Galway have been in a stable management structure for years now and if they have made some progress ( arguably not much), they haven't exactly exploded onto the stage. I could argue that they might be already in a transition crisis themselves. I see little future for likes of Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw, Conroy. Some of the newer lads are not good enough. Nice names and all but nothing special.

The AI champions of 2010 that reached what one AI semi final since then and are now established Div 2 mid table team? To reach the semi final this summer Galway took out Kerry don't forget.

The Mayo performance in London 2011 was probably worse than the performances v Longford,Sligo and Mayo were less than convincing against a very average Galway or Roscommon who went into that championship having played their league football in Div 4.

Galway have gone from losing to Antrim and Sligo not so long ago in the championship to now reaching AI final semi final and NFL Div one final and thats good progress. Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw will be replaced by better defenders the returning Liam Silke for example. Their team is mostly young and learning and have plenty of good players to come through.

Sure. I appreciate that. My point is that Galway's improvement has been little steps in the grand scheme of things. They also had to resort to a negative game plan to make any progress at all. I wouldn't put too much value on that Kerry win. Probably the worst Kerry team in living memory.
 Horan got a team from ashes to an AI in 2 years when there were good teams about. Years of team building is passé. You don't know if there are better players coming through until they play against the big boys.  Managers have a short enough shelf life. I suspect that Kevin Walsh has probably come to the end of his curve.

Horan had a team that won a Connacht in 2009 and had been in D1 for more than a decade when he took over. There's some serious myth-making surrounding that lad. Sure, ye lost to Longford but to pretend that tells the whole picture would be incredibly disingenuous.

The years under O'Mahony were a total waste. Six or seven changes for every game, nobody knew what was going on.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: mayoman dan on August 30, 2018, 09:07:28 AM
Will be dissapointed if its Horan.Tactically still living in the stone age and was caught badly on thr line in several big games.He will get a response from the players but it will be another glorious failure
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 30, 2018, 09:17:01 AM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

Hold on. Mayo lost by 9 points to Kerry after taking out AI champions. That was a year after losing to Sligo and Longford under a dysfunctional and archaic administration. No comparison. Galway have been in a stable management structure for years now and if they have made some progress ( arguably not much), they haven't exactly exploded onto the stage. I could argue that they might be already in a transition crisis themselves. I see little future for likes of Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw, Conroy. Some of the newer lads are not good enough. Nice names and all but nothing special.

The AI champions of 2010 that reached what one AI semi final since then and are now established Div 2 mid table team? To reach the semi final this summer Galway took out Kerry don't forget.

The Mayo performance in London 2011 was probably worse than the performances v Longford,Sligo and Mayo were less than convincing against a very average Galway or Roscommon who went into that championship having played their league football in Div 4.

Galway have gone from losing to Antrim and Sligo not so long ago in the championship to now reaching AI final semi final and NFL Div one final and thats good progress. Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw will be replaced by better defenders the returning Liam Silke for example. Their team is mostly young and learning and have plenty of good players to come through.

Sure. I appreciate that. My point is that Galway's improvement has been little steps in the grand scheme of things. They also had to resort to a negative game plan to make any progress at all. I wouldn't put too much value on that Kerry win. Probably the worst Kerry team in living memory.
 Horan got a team from ashes to an AI in 2 years when there were good teams about. Years of team building is passé. You don't know if there are better players coming through until they play against the big boys.  Managers have a short enough shelf life. I suspect that Kevin Walsh has probably come to the end of his curve.

Wasn't a whole lot of difference between Kerry this summer and Cork 2011 was my point and Kerry will improve from now on Cork fell back badly after their AI win in 2010. Do you think the likes of O'Donnell,Bradshaw have stood out much against the big boys?

Mayo had won a Connacht championship in 2009 and was established Div one team when Horan took them on they were Div one finalist in 2010.  If Kevin Walsh has come to end of his curve he'll have left Galway in a far better position from there were before he arrived. Dublin included football today is built on a lot of negative football and what Walsh has brought in is much needed organisation and platform to build and progress further.

I don't think Galway were ever badly organised. Not so long ago Galway had Joe Kernan. I cant imagine his teams not 'organised'. Or any of the managers since.  My point is that progress needs to be fast and explosive. Mayo nearly did that.
While others are tweaking and developing likes of Dublin are disappearing over the horizon at a rate of knots.

Don't have to imagine it was the case. Some big named managers that were well looked after by Galways county board but their sides was poorly organised and a lot of their players weren't fit or strong enough to make any impact at senior championship level. Progress is progress and we'll see where Galway's progress from this year will take them now in the years ahead.

Extremely unlikely that anyone will do a 5 in a row in Connacht anytime soon again, the standard of competition has definitely improved in the province.
Not really a surprise that Horan is thinking of coming back, after the break this summer from the sustained campaigning of 2016 and 2017 he probably thinks that there is one kick left in this Mayo team to try and win the All Ireland next year, players on the bubble of retirement will certainly stay on if Horan is appointed I think.

No offence moysider but after reading that bit in bold I honestly couldn't take any opinion you have on Galway seriously, we were a poorly organised shambles for years under multiple managers including Kernan. Kevin Walsh has brought it on a certain amount, that said Galway clearly still have many issues to rectify but this thread topic isn't the place to worry about them.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Manning18 on August 30, 2018, 11:00:02 AM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

Hold on. Mayo lost by 9 points to Kerry after taking out AI champions. That was a year after losing to Sligo and Longford under a dysfunctional and archaic administration. No comparison. Galway have been in a stable management structure for years now and if they have made some progress ( arguably not much), they haven't exactly exploded onto the stage. I could argue that they might be already in a transition crisis themselves. I see little future for likes of Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw, Conroy. Some of the newer lads are not good enough. Nice names and all but nothing special.

Which ones exactly?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Rossfan on August 30, 2018, 11:13:22 AM
I see Horan downplaying his alleged forthcoming appointment.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jinxy on August 30, 2018, 11:20:06 AM
Lookit...
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 30, 2018, 11:36:04 AM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

Hold on. Mayo lost by 9 points to Kerry after taking out AI champions. That was a year after losing to Sligo and Longford under a dysfunctional and archaic administration. No comparison. Galway have been in a stable management structure for years now and if they have made some progress ( arguably not much), they haven't exactly exploded onto the stage. I could argue that they might be already in a transition crisis themselves. I see little future for likes of Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw, Conroy. Some of the newer lads are not good enough. Nice names and all but nothing special.

Which ones exactly?

Stephen Coen springs to mind.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: JoG2 on August 30, 2018, 11:38:27 AM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

Hold on. Mayo lost by 9 points to Kerry after taking out AI champions. That was a year after losing to Sligo and Longford under a dysfunctional and archaic administration. No comparison. Galway have been in a stable management structure for years now and if they have made some progress ( arguably not much), they haven't exactly exploded onto the stage. I could argue that they might be already in a transition crisis themselves. I see little future for likes of Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw, Conroy. Some of the newer lads are not good enough. Nice names and all but nothing special.

Which ones exactly?

Stephen Coen springs to mind.

 ;D
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 30, 2018, 11:39:55 AM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

Hold on. Mayo lost by 9 points to Kerry after taking out AI champions. That was a year after losing to Sligo and Longford under a dysfunctional and archaic administration. No comparison. Galway have been in a stable management structure for years now and if they have made some progress ( arguably not much), they haven't exactly exploded onto the stage. I could argue that they might be already in a transition crisis themselves. I see little future for likes of Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw, Conroy. Some of the newer lads are not good enough. Nice names and all but nothing special.

Which ones exactly?

Stephen Coen springs to mind.

 ;D

I hope you got the joke.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: JoG2 on August 30, 2018, 11:43:30 AM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

Hold on. Mayo lost by 9 points to Kerry after taking out AI champions. That was a year after losing to Sligo and Longford under a dysfunctional and archaic administration. No comparison. Galway have been in a stable management structure for years now and if they have made some progress ( arguably not much), they haven't exactly exploded onto the stage. I could argue that they might be already in a transition crisis themselves. I see little future for likes of Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw, Conroy. Some of the newer lads are not good enough. Nice names and all but nothing special.

Which ones exactly?

Stephen Coen springs to mind.

 ;D

I hope you got the joke.

Oh yes
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Manning18 on August 30, 2018, 12:06:36 PM
Surely this latest Mayo shenanigan opens the way for Roscommon to dominate Connacht for the next decade.

With the Mayo shenanigans I wouldn't be one bit surprised if Galway now go on to repeat Mayo's 5 in a row of 2015 and those that are writing off Galway for losing this years All Ireland semi final by 9 points should remember that Mayo also lost AIl Ireland semi final by 9 points in 2011.

Hold on. Mayo lost by 9 points to Kerry after taking out AI champions. That was a year after losing to Sligo and Longford under a dysfunctional and archaic administration. No comparison. Galway have been in a stable management structure for years now and if they have made some progress ( arguably not much), they haven't exactly exploded onto the stage. I could argue that they might be already in a transition crisis themselves. I see little future for likes of Gary O Donnell, Bradshaw, Conroy. Some of the newer lads are not good enough. Nice names and all but nothing special.

Which ones exactly?

Stephen Coen springs to mind.

Yes. And many more members of that beloved class of 2016. Someone inform the CB chairman
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on August 30, 2018, 12:19:50 PM
Stephen coen will be an all star .
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: joemamas on August 30, 2018, 01:29:26 PM
Stephen coen will be an all star .

Larry why do you make such daft statements.Also why throw a specific players name out there.

The lad tries hard, but .....
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: weareros on August 30, 2018, 02:22:06 PM
I see Horan downplaying his alleged forthcoming appointment.

If Horan is not interested, that makes Jimmy favourite. If Jimmy wants a soccer career, that makes Solan favourite. If Solan is considered too green (he is), then next favourite is... Yikes, no wonder our PR released a hands off statement.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: highorlow on August 30, 2018, 02:33:27 PM
Quote
Larry why do you make such daft statements.Also why throw a specific players name out there.

The lad tries hard, but .....

I don't think Larry said his name.

p.s. I think he is serious about the all star.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on August 30, 2018, 02:43:16 PM
Stephen coen will be an all star .

Larry why do you make such daft statements.Also why throw a specific players name out there.

The lad tries hard, but .....

Larry was responding to above posts slating a player , I happen to think he has potential , he's a big unit . We will see it n the coming years if it's a daft statement or not. He's also a winner .
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: shark on August 30, 2018, 02:50:31 PM
Stephen coen will be an all star .

Larry why do you make such daft statements.Also why throw a specific players name out there.

The lad tries hard, but .....

Larry was responding to above posts slating a player , I happen to think he has potential , he's a big unit . We will see it n the coming years if it's a daft statement or not. He's also a winner .

I guess you have more than one account  ::)
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on August 30, 2018, 02:57:22 PM
Stephen coen will be an all star .

Larry why do you make such daft statements.Also why throw a specific players name out there.

The lad tries hard, but .....

Larry was responding to above posts slating a player , I happen to think he has potential , he's a big unit . We will see it n the coming years if it's a daft statement or not. He's also a winner .

I guess you have more than one account  ::)

Always been said I have , really don't get why o would but sure no sense in getting worked up about the accusation as I've done in the past. Believe what ya want to believe
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: shark on August 30, 2018, 02:58:46 PM
Stephen coen will be an all star .

Larry why do you make such daft statements.Also why throw a specific players name out there.

The lad tries hard, but .....

Larry was responding to above posts slating a player , I happen to think he has potential , he's a big unit . We will see it n the coming years if it's a daft statement or not. He's also a winner .

I guess you have more than one account  ::)

Always been said I have , really don't get why o would but sure no sense in getting worked up about the accusation as I've done in the past. Believe what ya want to believe

Well then you referred to yourself in the 3rd person. Not sure which is worse.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 30, 2018, 03:11:53 PM
Lookit...

https://twitter.com/JamesHoransCap/status/1034137409292828678
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Maroon Manc on August 30, 2018, 06:57:30 PM
Horan always seems to get a free ride from many Mayo fans, he made several big mistakes too mainly the lack of dealing with Donaghy which cost Mayo an All Ireland in 2014. He might have won 4 Connacht titles in a row but he was up against one of the most ill prepared and rudderless Galways teams in a long time whilst Roscommon weren't much better yet still managed to run Mayo close twice during that time and think Sligo weren't too far away in the Connacht Final in either 11 or 12. I'm not knocking him, he's clearly a good manager but he missed huge opportunities when the Dubs were their for the taking in 13 and in 14 when Mayo were a better side than Kerry and had the game won the first day.

I can see from the Mayo posters on here some think there's another year left in them whilst others think that ship has sailed. Given all the soundbites from the county board about money problems about then Horan's comments in the paper today I can't imagine appointing Horan is going to be a smooth process, could go on for ages as I'm sure the coaches he'll want with him won't come cheaply.

If Horan doesn't want it this time round there's always next time and given the age profile of the panel and a few other issues with the County Board you can't blame him if he decides to wait.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Orchard park on August 30, 2018, 07:13:24 PM
Horgan will price himself out of it exactly like Mcstay did 3 years ago and then blame co board for not appointing him...
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 30, 2018, 07:27:04 PM
Horgan will price himself out of it exactly like Mcstay did 3 years ago and then blame co board for not appointing him...

How was the Breaffy and Ballintubber lads having a hissy fit at the idea of Liam McHale coaching them because he said mean things about them in the papers McStay pricing himself out of the job?

The money men were there regardless so if you really believe Mayo couldn’t fund McStay’s plans when they had two of the highest-priced mercs in the sport in Buckley and McEntee under Rochford then I really don’t know what to say. The brother of the vice chairman/heir-apparent won the job in that ‘contest’ it should be remembered..
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Rossfan on August 30, 2018, 07:44:36 PM
Horgan will price himself out of it exactly like Mcstay did 3 years ago and then blame co board for not appointing him...
Maybe their new Commercial manager might raise enough to hire Kevin this time ;D
And to think the Biffos have rubbed their noses in it by getting Commandant Tan.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2018, 07:52:28 PM
Coen could play full bck if given 2 league one runs in that position!
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Orchard park on August 30, 2018, 08:09:22 PM
Horgan will price himself out of it exactly like Mcstay did 3 years ago and then blame co board for not appointing him...

How was the Breaffy and Ballintubber lads having a hissy fit at the idea of Liam McHale coaching them because he said mean things about them in the papers McStay pricing himself out of the job?

The money men were there regardless so if you really believe Mayo couldn’t fund McStay’s plans when they had two of the highest-priced mercs in the sport in Buckley and McEntee under Rochford then I really don’t know what to say. The brother of the vice chairman/heir-apparent won the job in that ‘contest’ it should be remembered..

Mcstays plans in Mayo were much more than what Roscommon are funding.

He priced himself out if a similar role in Lapis from memory also.

Issues with McHale existed but the Hollymount man insisted no county coukd fund what Mcstay proposed .

I would think he personally may be getting more under the table in Ross. But there is no money there for rolling out plans.

Christ 3 years later we don't have a defence 

You are right re Mcentee but Donie Buckley is far from biggest charger around. The kevin project was much much costlier

And the brother did a good job even ifthe breaffy boys said no
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 30, 2018, 08:26:29 PM
Horgan will price himself out of it exactly like Mcstay did 3 years ago and then blame co board for not appointing him...

How was the Breaffy and Ballintubber lads having a hissy fit at the idea of Liam McHale coaching them because he said mean things about them in the papers McStay pricing himself out of the job?

The money men were there regardless so if you really believe Mayo couldn’t fund McStay’s plans when they had two of the highest-priced mercs in the sport in Buckley and McEntee under Rochford then I really don’t know what to say. The brother of the vice chairman/heir-apparent won the job in that ‘contest’ it should be remembered..

Mcstays plans in Mayo were much more than what Roscommon are funding.

He priced himself out if a similar role in Lapis from memory also.

Issues with McHale existed but the Hollymount man insisted no county coukd fund what Mcstay proposed .

I would think he personally may be getting more under the table in Ross. But there is no money there for rolling out plans.

Christ 3 years later we don't have a defence 

You are right re Mcentee but Donie Buckley is far from biggest charger around. The kevin project was much much costlier

And the brother did a good job even ifthe breaffy boys said no

Please stop making a thread about Mayo about your agenda against Kevin McStay.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 30, 2018, 08:30:12 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/jim-mcguinness-out-of-the-running-for-mayo-vacancy-and-james-horan-thinks-it-might-not-be-the-right-time-for-him-to-return-37268295.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/jim-mcguinness-out-of-the-running-for-mayo-vacancy-and-james-horan-thinks-it-might-not-be-the-right-time-for-him-to-return-37268295.html)
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 30, 2018, 08:34:08 PM
Stephen coen will be an all star .

Larry why do you make such daft statements.Also why throw a specific players name out there.

The lad tries hard, but .....

Good job you left it at that.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Orchard park on August 30, 2018, 08:38:41 PM
Horgan will price himself out of it exactly like Mcstay did 3 years ago and then blame co board for not appointing him...

How was the Breaffy and Ballintubber lads having a hissy fit at the idea of Liam McHale coaching them because he said mean things about them in the papers McStay pricing himself out of the job?

The money men were there regardless so if you really believe Mayo couldn’t fund McStay’s plans when they had two of the highest-priced mercs in the sport in Buckley and McEntee under Rochford then I really don’t know what to say. The brother of the vice chairman/heir-apparent won the job in that ‘contest’ it should be remembered..

Mcstays plans in Mayo were much more than what Roscommon are funding.

He priced himself out if a similar role in Lapis from memory also.

Issues with McHale existed but the Hollymount man insisted no county coukd fund what Mcstay proposed .

I would think he personally may be getting more under the table in Ross. But there is no money there for rolling out plans.

Christ 3 years later we don't have a defence 

You are right re Mcentee but Donie Buckley is far from biggest charger around. The kevin project was much much costlier

And the brother did a good job even ifthe breaffy boys said no

Please stop making a thread about Mayo about your agenda against Kevin McStay.

No agenda against Kevin at all. Unlike you I know him and unlike you he will admigbhe was overly ambitiousvin hisvKayo proposals, and it's his biggest regret in football not getting the gig. His words not yours or mine.....

So when you climb down from the rectum of someone who doesn't even know you,  you should see this is about a potential Mayo manager who failed in the past to get the job.   
I have no agenda against him, will analyse his management of my native county,  I do believe he had totally underachievied in Roscommon, that his knowledge of football is not as good as he believes it to be , and that preparation for the last 2 years had been basically shite but this could  be down to lack of funding, inexperience or working with a poor over rated player pool.

The next 10 months will tell us loads as time for exvuses is over , that's if he is still managing us
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: weareros on August 30, 2018, 08:45:14 PM
Full story of McStay’s effort to get Mayo gig here. Either way they love their drama and talking to media over in Mayo.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/kevin-mcstay-and-liam-mchale-in-mayo-the-trials-of-being-a-prophet-in-your-own-land-455909.html
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: rodney trotter on August 30, 2018, 08:48:16 PM
There was no real consistency in Mayo under Rochford. Mayo struggled in the League in each of his 3 years, just about stayed up. They lost to Galway 3 years in a row . Then stuttered through the qualifiers but upped it come the Semi final stages ,running Dublin close in 2017 and 2017 in the All Ireland final.

It was probaly a team that peaked before he took over anyway. Mayo looked at their best around 2014.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Orchard park on August 30, 2018, 08:51:51 PM
There was no real consistency in Mayo under Rochford. Mayo struggled in the League in each of his 3 years, just about stayed up. They lost to Galway 3 years in a row . Then stuttered through the qualifiers but upped it come the Semi final stages ,running Dublin close in 2017 and 2017 in the All Ireland final.

It was probaly a team that peaked before he took over anyway. Mayo looked at their best around 2014.

Horgan  blewt heir best chances no matter what shite he spouts on Sky
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 30, 2018, 08:54:03 PM
Horgan will price himself out of it exactly like Mcstay did 3 years ago and then blame co board for not appointing him...

How was the Breaffy and Ballintubber lads having a hissy fit at the idea of Liam McHale coaching them because he said mean things about them in the papers McStay pricing himself out of the job?

The money men were there regardless so if you really believe Mayo couldn’t fund McStay’s plans when they had two of the highest-priced mercs in the sport in Buckley and McEntee under Rochford then I really don’t know what to say. The brother of the vice chairman/heir-apparent won the job in that ‘contest’ it should be remembered..

Mcstays plans in Mayo were much more than what Roscommon are funding.

He priced himself out if a similar role in Lapis from memory also.

Issues with McHale existed but the Hollymount man insisted no county coukd fund what Mcstay proposed .

I would think he personally may be getting more under the table in Ross. But there is no money there for rolling out plans.

Christ 3 years later we don't have a defence 

You are right re Mcentee but Donie Buckley is far from biggest charger around. The kevin project was much much costlier

And the brother did a good job even ifthe breaffy boys said no

Please stop making a thread about Mayo about your agenda against Kevin McStay.

No agenda against Kevin at all. Unlike you k know him and unlike you he will admigbhe was overly ambitiousvin hisvKayo proposals, and it's his biggest regret in football not getting the gig. His words not yours or mine.....

So when you climb down from the rectum of someone who doesn't even know you,  you should see this is about a potential Mayo manager who failed in the past to get the job.    I have no agenda against him, I do believe he had totally underachievied in Roscommon, that his knowledge of football is not ad good as he believes it to be , and that preparation for the last 2 years had been basically shite bug tuis foukc bevfown yo lavk of funding, inecprtience or working wiyh a poor over rated player pool.

The next 10 months will tell us loads as time for exvusesvis ovrr , that's if he is still managing us

What the actual f**k.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on August 30, 2018, 09:00:43 PM
Horan always seems to get a free ride from many Mayo fans, he made several big mistakes too mainly the lack of dealing with Donaghy which cost Mayo an All Ireland in 2014. He might have won 4 Connacht titles in a row but he was up against one of the most ill prepared and rudderless Galways teams in a long time whilst Roscommon weren't much better yet still managed to run Mayo close twice during that time and think Sligo weren't too far away in the Connacht Final in either 11 or 12. I'm not knocking him, he's clearly a good manager but he missed huge opportunities when the Dubs were their for the taking in 13 and in 14 when Mayo were a better side than Kerry and had the game won the first day.


You're on the two sides of the road there Manc, old stock.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Orchard park on August 30, 2018, 09:01:55 PM
Read it again  young lad. f**king tab errors all corrected
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Rossfan on August 30, 2018, 09:32:30 PM
So if Jimmy Mc is out and Horan is out while Tan is gone to the Boglands......... only O'Mahony or McStay left.
I'd expect the latter to seriously consider it as Ros have gone down hill since July 2017. The CB hasn't a pot to piss in to enable him to swallow his pride and hire the expertise he needs.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on August 30, 2018, 09:35:54 PM
Maurice Sheridan, poacher Willie Joe padden, Michael fitzmauice and Sean Burke would all get it before mcstay .
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 30, 2018, 09:41:42 PM
So if Jimmy Mc is out and Horan is out while Tan is gone to the Boglands......... only O'Mahony or McStay left.
I'd expect the latter to seriously consider it as Ros have gone down hill since July 2017. The CB hasn't a pot to piss in to enable him to swallow his pride and hire the expertise he needs.

Not a snowball's chance in hell of Johnno mk 3.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: weareros on August 30, 2018, 09:46:39 PM
So if Jimmy Mc is out and Horan is out while Tan is gone to the Boglands......... only O'Mahony or McStay left.
I'd expect the latter to seriously consider it as Ros have gone down hill since July 2017. The CB hasn't a pot to piss in to enable him to swallow his pride and hire the expertise he needs.

Not a snowball's chance in hell of Johnno mk 3.

The man formerly referred to in Mayo as “the Messiah”, to his students in Balllagh as “Savage”.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: LooseCannon on August 30, 2018, 09:47:34 PM
Colm Nally, you’ve heard it here first.
Former Louth Keeper over Castleknock this year.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Rossfan on August 30, 2018, 09:48:46 PM
I just threw Johno  in to give ye nightmares  ;D
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Orchard park on August 30, 2018, 09:58:17 PM
Maurice Sheridan, poacher Willie Joe padden, Michael fitzmauice and Sean Burke would all get it before mcstay .


As a Rossie hope Poacher gets it..... if one thinks Maugham has an ego, listen to that self promoter.

He licks himself to sleep every night
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Orchard park on August 30, 2018, 09:59:53 PM
Colm Nally, you’ve heard it here first.
Former Louth Keeper over Castleknock this year.

Could be a step down for him, surely over qualified
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on August 30, 2018, 10:04:13 PM
Ask PP for odds on Stephen rochford been the next mayo manager
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Blowitupref on August 30, 2018, 10:49:16 PM
Jimmy Sloyan is in the betting i see also. Is it true he played on the same Mayo 1980 minor team in Croke park along side Peter Forde,John Maughan and Kevin McStay?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 30, 2018, 10:53:02 PM
If Horan is stalling, time to move on and take a punt.
Maybe Solan and Andy Moran might be a start.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: ballinaman on August 30, 2018, 10:55:04 PM
Jimmy Sloyan is in the betting i see also. Is it true he played on the same Mayo 1980 minor team in Croke park along side Peter Forde,John Maughan and Kevin McStay?
Know your history
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on August 30, 2018, 11:05:25 PM
I'm gobsmacked , can't believe they didn't have something middlen concrete lined up .  How can they be that stupid , these are all grown men of sound intelligence . Beggers belief , was trying to even fight their corner a little as I thought rochford acted up a bit by what I seen as a refusal to show his future plans to executive.

I was told it was horans and he was up for it , that was obviously a pack of lies.

We are the laughing stock now that's for sure .
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Blowitupref on August 30, 2018, 11:06:39 PM
Jimmy Sloyan is in the betting i see also. Is it true he played on the same Mayo 1980 minor team in Croke park along side Peter Forde,John Maughan and Kevin McStay?
Know your history
I know because i played it kathy.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: mayoman dan on August 30, 2018, 11:10:00 PM
I'm gobsmacked , can't believe they didn't have something middlen concrete lined up .  How can they be that stupid , these are all grown men of sound intelligence . Beggers belief , was trying to even fight their corner a little as I thought rochford acted up a bit by what I seen as a refusal to show his future plans to executive.

I was told it was horans and he was up for it , that was obviously a pack of lies.

We are the laughing stock now that's for sure .

My thoughts exactly😮.....Why force Rochford out if no one lined up??? I was told mcguinness but that dosent seem to be happening...Our county board are beyond a joke this is an absolute farce
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on August 30, 2018, 11:18:35 PM
I'm gobsmacked , can't believe they didn't have something middlen concrete lined up .  How can they be that stupid , these are all grown men of sound intelligence . Beggers belief , was trying to even fight their corner a little as I thought rochford acted up a bit by what I seen as a refusal to show his future plans to executive.

I was told it was horans and he was up for it , that was obviously a pack of lies.

We are the laughing stock now that's for sure .

Lol.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Orchard park on August 30, 2018, 11:18:53 PM
Are the ballina brothers in law still persona non grata
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on August 30, 2018, 11:34:27 PM
Are the ballina brothers in law still persona non grata

Not sure they were ever persona non grata per se.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jinxy on August 31, 2018, 08:26:16 AM
And they say Latin is a dead language.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Gael85 on August 31, 2018, 08:28:55 AM
Colm Nally, you’ve heard it here first.
Former Louth Keeper over Castleknock this year.

Castleknock were relegated from Division one Tuesday night though think they have qualified for Quarter Final of championship.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2018, 10:14:12 AM
I'm gobsmacked , can't believe they didn't have something middlen concrete lined up .  How can they be that stupid , these are all grown men of sound intelligence . Beggers belief , was trying to even fight their corner a little as I thought rochford acted up a bit by what I seen as a refusal to show his future plans to executive.

I was told it was horans and he was up for it , that was obviously a pack of lies.

We are the laughing stock now that's for sure .

My thoughts exactly😮.....Why force Rochford out if no one lined up??? I was told mcguinness but that dosent seem to be happening...Our county board are beyond a joke this is an absolute farce

Plus ça change and all that.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: rosnarun on August 31, 2018, 10:50:30 AM
I'm gobsmacked , can't believe they didn't have something middlen concrete lined up .  How can they be that stupid , these are all grown men of sound intelligence . Beggers belief , was trying to even fight their corner a little as I thought rochford acted up a bit by what I seen as a refusal to show his future plans to executive.

I was told it was horans and he was up for it , that was obviously a pack of lies.

We are the laughing stock now that's for sure .

My thoughts exactly😮.....Why force Rochford out if no one lined up??? I was told mcguinness but that dosent seem to be happening...Our county board are beyond a joke this is an absolute farce


I don't think they thight they were getting Rid of Rochford more asserting the own kingdom,
I think when the chairmans  brother was forced out, he said no one would walk over him again . so there could be a bot of payback going on.
as for the brothers I think the main man considers the county board  Persona non grata and would need to see big changes before he'd consider it (famous last words)
I'm gobsmacked , can't believe they didn't have something middlen concrete lined up .  How can they be that stupid , these are all grown men of sound intelligence . Beggers belief , was trying to even fight their corner a little as I thought rochford acted up a bit by what I seen as a refusal to show his future plans to executive.

I was told it was horans and he was up for it , that was obviously a pack of lies.

We are the laughing stock now that's for sure .
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Rossfan on August 31, 2018, 11:41:03 AM
So McGuinness definitely out while Horan is sounding a bit "wriggle roomy"??
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: kerryforsam2018 on August 31, 2018, 11:46:55 AM
Horan always seems to get a free ride from many Mayo fans, he made several big mistakes too mainly the lack of dealing with Donaghy which cost Mayo an All Ireland in 2014. He might have won 4 Connacht titles in a row but he was up against one of the most ill prepared and rudderless Galways teams in a long time whilst Roscommon weren't much better yet still managed to run Mayo close twice during that time and think Sligo weren't too far away in the Connacht Final in either 11 or 12. I'm not knocking him, he's clearly a good manager but he missed huge opportunities when the Dubs were their for the taking in 13 and in 14 when Mayo were a better side than Kerry and had the game won the first day.

I can see from the Mayo posters on here some think there's another year left in them whilst others think that ship has sailed. Given all the soundbites from the county board about money problems about then Horan's comments in the paper today I can't imagine appointing Horan is going to be a smooth process, could go on for ages as I'm sure the coaches he'll want with him won't come cheaply.

If Horan doesn't want it this time round there's always next time and given the age profile of the panel and a few other issues with the County Board you can't blame him if he decides to wait.

What happened with Richard Feeney in 2013 final? Big mistake not bringing him in that day.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 31, 2018, 11:53:15 AM
I wouldn't jump to many, if any, conclusions right now about what the board is up to.
"These are all grown men of sound intelligence," as Larry puts it and he may well be right.
Personally, when you look at the shenanigans we had before Rochford got the gig, I'd be inclined to doubt it.
There is no need to rush and the board is no obliged to give a running commentary on what's going on behind (their) closed doors.
I'd be shocked if they are all waiting around, sitting on their hands and waiting someone to come calling. It's probable that they have more than one man in mind are are playing one off against another. Things like expenses, backroom staff, terms of duties and responsibilities and so on have to be discussed and there's an awful lot of negotiating to be done before there there is anyone selected.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: galwayman on August 31, 2018, 12:01:33 PM
Will be surprised if it's not Horan tbh.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: trileacman on August 31, 2018, 12:20:23 PM
County board have 6-8 weeks before they need to panic about appointing a manager. The hubris about having no-one lined up is horseshit, Mayo have about 5 months to their next match of any meaning. No point rushing in and appointing a bollix just to say you’ve got someone.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: criostlinn on August 31, 2018, 03:04:00 PM
Maybe time for Mike Connelly to step forward and finally take back full control for the county board by announcing himself as the next Mayo manager. He definitely seems to have all the answers when pontificating to the delegates at the Co Board meetings

Horan was probably always going to rule himself out when asked so soon after Rochfords departure. He says the environment isn't right at the moment but who's to say it wont be better in a few weeks time. I seem to remember Pat Holmes ruling himself out in 2015 but when the Co. Board want their man they will move mountains to get him whoever that may be.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 31, 2018, 03:31:18 PM
County board have 6-8 weeks before they need to panic about appointing a manager. The hubris about having no-one lined up is horseshit, Mayo have about 5 months to their next match of any meaning. No point rushing in and appointing a bollix just to say you’ve got someone.

Longer than that i can imagine as it was November 30th when Rochford was appointed and he didn't put his management team together until the first few weeks of December. Which all makes the deadline put on Rochford last week very odd.

Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: mayoman dan on August 31, 2018, 03:42:19 PM
County board have 6-8 weeks before they need to panic about appointing a manager. The hubris about having no-one lined up is horseshit, Mayo have about 5 months to their next match of any meaning. No point rushing in and appointing a bollix just to say you’ve got someone.

Longer than that i can imagine as it was November 30th when Rochford was appointed and he didn't put his management team together until the first few weeks of December. Which all makes the deadline put on Rochford last week very odd.

They wanted him gone.It was a stitch up.Why they wanted him gone with no one lined up is anyones guess
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: trileacman on August 31, 2018, 04:18:09 PM
There’s a bizarre conflict in the Mayo opinion here that seems to be along the lines of “we didn’t rate Rochford at all but we didn’t want rid of him either”.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: screenexile on August 31, 2018, 04:22:12 PM
There’s a bizarre conflict in the Mayo opinion here that seems to be along the lines of “we didn’t rate Rochford at all but we didn’t want rid of him either”.

I think you've literally just summed up Mayo in once sentence. . . fair play!!
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: ballinaman on August 31, 2018, 04:35:43 PM
County board have 6-8 weeks before they need to panic about appointing a manager. The hubris about having no-one lined up is horseshit, Mayo have about 5 months to their next match of any meaning. No point rushing in and appointing a bollix just to say you’ve got someone.

Longer than that i can imagine as it was November 30th when Rochford was appointed and he didn't put his management team together until the first few weeks of December. Which all makes the deadline put on Rochford last week very odd.

They wanted him gone.It was a stitch up.Why they wanted him gone with no one lined up is anyones guess
That's not entirely accurate. Knowing how it unfolded.

No problem with him going in my opinion, last year was dismal and the whole structure needed to change.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: thebackbar1 on August 31, 2018, 05:42:20 PM
County board have 6-8 weeks before they need to panic about appointing a manager. The hubris about having no-one lined up is horseshit, Mayo have about 5 months to their next match of any meaning. No point rushing in and appointing a bollix just to say you’ve got someone.

Longer than that i can imagine as it was November 30th when Rochford was appointed and he didn't put his management team together until the first few weeks of December. Which all makes the deadline put on Rochford last week very odd.

But why not do it immediately after the Kildare match ? It would of given the county board more time to find a successor and the new man to time to find his feet ?

They wanted him gone.It was a stitch up.Why they wanted him gone with no one lined up is anyones guess
That's not entirely accurate. Knowing how it unfolded.

No problem with him going in my opinion, last year was dismal and the whole structure needed to change.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on August 31, 2018, 08:48:07 PM
Kevin mcstay is the latest most significant mover in the pp market , 12/1 into odds of Now 6/1. Jack o connor enters the market today at odds of 8/1. It's comical stuff tbh
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Never beat the deeler on August 31, 2018, 11:17:35 PM
There’s a bizarre conflict in the Mayo opinion here that seems to be along the lines of “we didn’t rate Rochford at all but we didn’t want rid of him either”.

People's opinions differ, hardly a shock.

What would the Tyrone opinion of Mickey Harte have been this time last year?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 01, 2018, 02:20:57 PM
There’s a bizarre conflict in the Mayo opinion here that seems to be along the lines of “we didn’t rate Rochford at all but we didn’t want rid of him either unless they have a better manager lined up”.

FTFY
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 01, 2018, 09:18:48 PM
https://twitter.com/RTEgaa/status/1035962637475962880
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Itchy on September 01, 2018, 09:25:15 PM
https://twitter.com/RTEgaa/status/1035962637475962880

I don't really understand. What is it he wants to hear from them. He resigned.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on September 01, 2018, 09:37:09 PM
https://twitter.com/RTEgaa/status/1035962637475962880

I don't really understand. What is it he wants to hear from them. He resigned.

Yeah, bosses not contacting an employee who steps down at all is totally normal.

:o
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: trileacman on September 01, 2018, 09:45:05 PM
 Did he not contact his employer to say he was quitting?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Halfquarter on September 01, 2018, 10:39:28 PM
https://twitter.com/RTEgaa/status/1035962637475962880

I don't really understand. What is it he wants to hear from them. He resigned.

I don't think that he wants anything, he was asked a question and he answered it.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Tubberman on September 01, 2018, 10:43:30 PM
https://twitter.com/RTEgaa/status/1035962637475962880

I don't really understand. What is it he wants to hear from them. He resigned.

I don't think that he wants anything, he was asked a question and he answered it.

He didnt have to go on the news to say nothing.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Wildweasel74 on September 01, 2018, 10:45:51 PM
Jack O Connor would be a great move for Mayo! Top manager! Suprised he not in the running for the Kerry job!
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on September 01, 2018, 10:51:48 PM
https://twitter.com/RTEgaa/status/1035962637475962880

I don't really understand. What is it he wants to hear from them. He resigned.

I don't think that he wants anything, he was asked a question and he answered it.

He didnt have to go on the news to say nothing.

The Ultras have started turning on the man I see. Omertà, blah, blah. Same guff as when the last duo came out with their side of the story.

Rochford was properly fûcked over. He has every right to point that out to anyone he wants to. He owes you or any of the Mayo supporters nothing at this stage.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: kerryforsam2018 on September 01, 2018, 10:55:11 PM
Jack O Connor would be a great move for Mayo! Top manager! Suprised he not in the running for the Kerry job!

Would be a huge addition to mayo football but hopefully he will take Kerry role. Might be too soon for Peter Keane.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Tubberman on September 01, 2018, 11:00:24 PM
https://twitter.com/RTEgaa/status/1035962637475962880

I don't really understand. What is it he wants to hear from them. He resigned.

I don't think that he wants anything, he was asked a question and he answered it.

He didnt have to go on the news to say nothing.

The Ultras have started turning on the man I see. Omertà, blah, blah. Same guff as when the last duo came out with their side of the story.

Rochford was properly fûcked over. He has every right to point that out to anyone he wants to. He owes you or any of the Mayo supporters nothing at this stage.

Talking through your arse as usual. I know he was fucked over - I am in no way defending the methods of the CB.
But Rochford said nothing new in that interview. It doesn't aid his cause (if he has one) or even shed more light on what actually happened. All it achieved is keeping the "Mayo story" in the headlines.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Rossfan on September 01, 2018, 11:02:39 PM
Did he not contact his employer to say he was quitting?

Employer?? :o
I hope he's had all his PAYE, USC and PRSI deducted and that his Employer has paid them over to Revenue  ;D
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on September 01, 2018, 11:17:39 PM
Wow , how people don't know the score is surreal
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on September 01, 2018, 11:20:34 PM
Wow , how people don't know the score is surreal

You were the lad telling us McGuiness was a live possibility a few days ago..
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on September 01, 2018, 11:23:34 PM
Wow , how people don't know the score is surreal

You were the lad telling us McGuiness was a live possibility a few days ago..

You're the man with the inside line Syf - who will the next Mayo manager be?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on September 01, 2018, 11:25:36 PM
Wow , how people don't know the score is surreal

You were the lad telling us McGuiness was a live possibility a few days ago..

You're the man with the inside line Syf - who will the next Mayo manager be?

At the rate you’re going you’ll be doing well to get the publican’s son from Ballagh, County Roscommon to manage ya.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: weareros on September 02, 2018, 12:21:42 AM
Current odds.

Horan - evens
Solan - 13/8
Jack O’Connor 3/1 (moving up)
McGuinness - 5/1
McStay - 7/1
Sheridan - 12/1
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Blowitupref on September 02, 2018, 12:50:05 AM
Current odds.

Horan - evens
Solan - 13/8
Jack O’Connor 3/1 (moving up)
McGuinness - 5/1
McStay - 7/1
Sheridan - 12/1
Will be a big shock if it isn't the return of Horan now.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on September 02, 2018, 01:03:16 AM
Current odds.

Horan - evens
Solan - 13/8
Jack O’Connor 3/1 (moving up)
McGuinness - 5/1
McStay - 7/1
Sheridan - 12/1
Will be a big shock if it isn't the return of Horan now.

Hardly.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on September 02, 2018, 01:32:53 AM
Maybe time for Mike Connelly to step forward and finally take back full control for the county board by announcing himself as the next Mayo manager. He definitely seems to have all the answers when pontificating to the delegates at the Co Board meetings

Horan was probably always going to rule himself out when asked so soon after Rochfords departure. He says the environment isn't right at the moment but who's to say it wont be better in a few weeks time. I seem to remember Pat Holmes ruling himself out in 2015 but when the Co. Board want their man they will move mountains to get him whoever that may be.

First paragraph probably nail on the head here. Horan clearly has misgivings about the current executive - or individuals/individual there. Who are still there from his time?
I be way off the mark but there is at least one common thread coming through from the Holmes/Connelly V McStay embarrassment to Rochford having his card marked about how he should approach going about his job next year.
 
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: From the Bunker on September 02, 2018, 03:24:25 AM
Current odds.

Horan - evens
Solan - 13/8
Jack O’Connor 3/1 (moving up)
McGuinness - 5/1
McStay - 7/1
Sheridan - 12/1
Will be a big shock if it isn't the return of Horan now.

Hardly.

If Horan comes back on board, it will be the shock the shock of the decade!
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 02, 2018, 07:24:09 AM
Is it the same story re nominations as last time?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: ballinaman on September 02, 2018, 08:51:38 AM
Current odds.

Horan - evens
Solan - 13/8
Jack O’Connor 3/1 (moving up)
McGuinness - 5/1
McStay - 7/1
Sheridan - 12/1
Will be a big shock if it isn't the return of Horan now.

Hardly.

If Horan comes back on board, it will be the shock the shock of the decade!
Not exactly , was always going to manage Mayo again , when not if.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Halfquarter on September 02, 2018, 10:05:23 AM
Stephan Rochford is on the Miriam O'Callaghan  show this morning.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on September 02, 2018, 01:25:32 PM
Current odds.

Horan - evens
Solan - 13/8
Jack O’Connor 3/1 (moving up)
McGuinness - 5/1
McStay - 7/1
Sheridan - 12/1
Will be a big shock if it isn't the return of Horan now.

Hardly.

If Horan comes back on board, it will be the shock the shock of the decade!
Not exactly , was always going to manage Mayo again , when not if.

Just like Johnno and Maughan.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 02, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Current odds.

Horan - evens
Solan - 13/8
Jack O’Connor 3/1 (moving up)
McGuinness - 5/1
McStay - 7/1
Sheridan - 12/1
Will be a big shock if it isn't the return of Horan now.

Hardly.

If Horan comes back on board, it will be the shock the shock of the decade!

Nah and it will be hardly be a shock if 2nd in the betting Solan becomes part of Horan's management team.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on September 02, 2018, 10:07:46 PM
Current odds.

Horan - evens
Solan - 13/8
Jack O’Connor 3/1 (moving up)
McGuinness - 5/1
McStay - 7/1
Sheridan - 12/1
Will be a big shock if it isn't the return of Horan now.

Hardly.

If Horan comes back on board, it will be the shock the shock of the decade!

Nah and it will be hardly be a shock if 2nd in the betting Solan becomes part of Horan's management team.

I wouldn't if I were him. There would be nothing in that for Solan.
If it works out, Horan's the main man. If it goes tits up, Solan goes down with the ship.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: MayoBuck on September 04, 2018, 03:33:28 PM
Paddy Power have closed the betting on next Mayo manager. The Kerry one is still open.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: highorlow on September 04, 2018, 04:20:36 PM
I see Paddy Power have various Dubs in a row bets.

The 8 in a row looks value to me at 4/1.

Taking inflation and interest rates into account it's probably really only 7/2.

The 10 in a row is 11/1.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 04, 2018, 05:28:26 PM
Paddy Power have closed the betting on next Mayo manager. The Kerry one is still open.

Horan odds on?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: MayoBuck on September 04, 2018, 07:17:08 PM
Paddy Power have closed the betting on next Mayo manager. The Kerry one is still open.

Horan odds on?

It's a strange one. I don't see how they could have tied down everything with Horan in such a short space of time.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 07:19:53 PM
Paddy Power have closed the betting on next Mayo manager. The Kerry one is still open.

Horan odds on?

It's a strange one. I don't see how they could have tied down everything with Horan in such a short space of time.

Paddy probably just doesn’t like the liability of the money already on Horan. Not as meaningful to the end result as some might think.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on September 05, 2018, 01:14:29 PM
Horan opens at 1/4 in new pp market .
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 05, 2018, 06:33:45 PM
McStay for Mayo, you know it makes sense.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Crete Boom on September 05, 2018, 06:54:41 PM
McStay for Mayo, you know it makes sense.
No chance Dinny, the lads in the Co Board executive have no love for him and especially Liam McHale. I don't think Horan will go for it either as again certain members of the executive won't want him there!!
My money would be somebody like Maurice Sheridan getting the gig.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: bucko on September 05, 2018, 07:17:25 PM
McStay for Mayo, you know it makes sense.
No chance Dinny, the lads in the Co Board executive have no love for him and especially Liam McHale. I don't think Horan will go for it either as again certain members of the executive won't want him there!!
My money would be somebody like Maurice Sheridan getting the gig.
Don’t think McStay would be too keen on dealing with certain members of the current executive anyway after his failed bid in 2014. Horan has stated that if he did go back it would have to be completely on his own terms, something the county board are certainly not willing to capitulate to.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jinxy on September 05, 2018, 07:23:34 PM
Give it to Martin Carney.
In the national interest.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Orchard park on September 05, 2018, 07:26:47 PM
Give it to Martin Carney.
In the national interest.

couldnt agree more and bring Dessie f**king Dolan with him
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: ballinaman on September 05, 2018, 07:32:00 PM
Give it to Martin Carney.
In the national interest.
What’s Tony Davis up to these days?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on September 05, 2018, 07:49:23 PM
Mike Connelly seen having dinner with a man in the hotel du vin earlier on this evening in Glasgows up market west end.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Lar Naparka on September 05, 2018, 07:56:21 PM
Give it to Martin Carney.
In the national interest.
If you mean a kick up the hole, I'm all for it.
If it's the Mayo manager's job you mean, I think he'd need to gain a bit of experience elsewhere. Not sure the Rossies are ready for the likes of him yet but it would be as good a place to start as any. He can't f**k them up any more than they are right now. ;D
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jinxy on September 05, 2018, 08:11:04 PM
Very much so, Lar.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: macdanger2 on September 06, 2018, 12:48:14 AM
Very much so, Lar.

No malice intended
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Post by: iorras on September 06, 2018, 04:28:31 PM
Mike Connelly seen having dinner with a man in the hotel du vin earlier on this evening in Glasgows up market west end.
not Stevie G surely? But he only lost one game. Are AIB going to back a new "toughest Trade" through a whole season of inter county football? Is Rochy going to Rangers??
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on September 06, 2018, 04:51:30 PM
Mike Connelly seen having dinner with a man in the hotel du vin earlier on this evening in Glasgows up market west end.
not Stevie G surely? But he only lost one game. Are AIB going to back a new "toughest Trade" through a whole season of inter county football? Is Rochy going to Rangers??

Gerrard doesn't do upmarket, he's a scouser.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: joemamas on September 06, 2018, 07:52:40 PM
Give it to Martin Carney.
In the national interest.
What’s Tony Davis up to these days?

At the hairdresser  ::)
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: joemamas on September 06, 2018, 07:54:05 PM
Very much so, Lar.

No malice intended

I couldn't say for certain, but I would give him the benefit of the doubt on this occasion.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jinxy on September 06, 2018, 08:09:35 PM
Give it to Martin Carney.
In the national interest.
What’s Tony Davis up to these days?

At the hairdresser  ::)

He was on the news earlier talking about stolen bicycles.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: LooseCannon on September 06, 2018, 08:11:15 PM
Give it to Martin Carney.
In the national interest.
What’s Tony Davis up to these days?

At the hairdresser  ::)

He was on the news earlier talking about stolen bicycles.
Ah feck it anyway, you beat me to it.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on September 06, 2018, 08:24:35 PM
Andy’s 66/1 to be the next Roscommon manager..
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: joemamas on September 06, 2018, 08:25:27 PM
Give it to Martin Carney.
In the national interest.
What’s Tony Davis up to these days?

At the hairdresser  ::)

He was on the news earlier talking about stolen bicycles.

Was it a "really lovely" Bicycle, just like he described every footballer on every team.

hopefully he did a bit more prep work on the bicycle story that he did on the football.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on September 06, 2018, 08:55:04 PM
Andy’s 66/1 to be the next Roscommon manager..
He wouldn't do it for 66 million
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on September 10, 2018, 07:26:01 PM
A certain Kerry man in breaffy house Friday night. Fact.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: weareros on September 10, 2018, 07:27:56 PM
A certain Kerry man in breaffy house Friday night. Fact.

Can you narrow it down. Was the head of hair as black as Mick O'Connell's in his heyday?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Halfquarter on September 10, 2018, 07:31:14 PM
A certain Kerry man in breaffy house Friday night. Fact.

Aidan OShea's father ?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: joemamas on September 10, 2018, 07:36:23 PM
A certain Kerry man in breaffy house Friday night. Fact.

The county board would be as well hiring The Healy Bros.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on September 10, 2018, 07:38:38 PM
Eoin Brosnan the new Mayo manager.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 10, 2018, 07:51:10 PM
A certain Kerry man in breaffy house Friday night. Fact.


Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: macdanger2 on September 10, 2018, 10:38:13 PM
A certain Kerry man in breaffy house Friday night. Fact.

I actually had a text from a kerry friend of mine at the weekend saying that this rumour was rife down there. I wouldn't like to see that bollix anywhere near the team
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: iorras on September 12, 2018, 09:14:03 AM
If that's the case this will end similar to the previous JackO experiment all them years ago.
I reckon someone on our board has the "Kerrys golden years" video at home on constant loop and believes football ended sometime in the early 80s
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: stephenite on September 12, 2018, 09:53:46 AM
If that's the case this will end similar to the previous JackO experiment all them years ago.
I reckon someone on our board has the "Kerrys golden years" video at home on constant loop and believes football ended sometime in the early 80s

I don’t understand this, Jack O’Connor has nothing to do with the Kerry establishment of those days. He is a proven manager at this level, and when not at this level is a proven All Ireland winner at underage.

Hell of a sight better than the one trick pony that is Jimmy McGuinness, we dodged a bullet with that charlatan who hasn’t achieved anything in Gaelic Football in years

That said, Horan should be the preferred candidate for me
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: iorras on September 12, 2018, 09:58:59 AM
If that's the case this will end similar to the previous JackO experiment all them years ago.
I reckon someone on our board has the "Kerrys golden years" video at home on constant loop and believes football ended sometime in the early 80s

I don’t understand this, Jack O’Connor has nothing to do with the Kerry establishment of those days. He is a proven manager at this level, and when not at this level is a proven All Ireland winner at underage.

Hell of a sight better than the one trick pony that is Jimmy McGuinness, we dodged a bullet with that charlatan who hasn’t achieved anything in Gaelic Football in years

That said, Horan should be the preferred candidate for me
I was referring to the county boards apparent obsession with all things Kerry; nothing to do with Jack O Connor specifically. Every time theres a vacancy we seem to have some eeijet off in the car to Valentia, or Waterville or somewhere else in the Kingdom begging one of the lads to do us a solid and come up and show us how to play ball. Its embarrassing. I've absolutely no argument with his record, he gave us a few schoolings over the years. Hes just not the right man for us and  it wont end well if this is the road they are going down.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Maroon Manc on September 12, 2018, 10:15:45 AM
I could have sworn I saw something on twitter last friday that Jack O'Connor had confirmed to a Kerry radio station that he was staying on with their u20's?

Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: iorras on September 12, 2018, 10:36:51 AM
I could have sworn I saw something on twitter last friday that Jack O'Connor had confirmed to a Kerry radio station that he was staying on with their u20's?
Yeah I was convinced of the same thing until people starting convincing me I was imagning things
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Rossfan on September 12, 2018, 11:02:42 AM
Liam McHale is free now ;)
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on September 12, 2018, 12:14:05 PM
I could have sworn I saw something on twitter last friday that Jack O'Connor had confirmed to a Kerry radio station that he was staying on with their u20's?

Yes it was but was it sealed ? Anyway all we have is rumours but he was definitely in Mayo last Friday
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jinxy on September 12, 2018, 12:14:33 PM
I could have sworn I saw something on twitter last friday that Jack O'Connor had confirmed to a Kerry radio station that he was staying on with their u20's?

Yerra...
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on September 12, 2018, 01:10:36 PM
If that's the case this will end similar to the previous JackO experiment all them years ago.
I reckon someone on our board has the "Kerrys golden years" video at home on constant loop and believes football ended sometime in the early 80s

I don’t understand this, Jack O’Connor has nothing to do with the Kerry establishment of those days. He is a proven manager at this level, and when not at this level is a proven All Ireland winner at underage.

Hell of a sight better than the one trick pony that is Jimmy McGuinness, we dodged a bullet with that charlatan who hasn’t achieved anything in Gaelic Football in years

That said, Horan should be the preferred candidate for me

The game has changed a lot at senior since even wee Jack was last in charge. Bizarre to call Jim McGuiness a charlatan when he still remains the last person to beat Dublin in the championship.

Enjoy being bled dry if this isn’t the usual wind up..
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Hound on September 12, 2018, 01:16:47 PM
I wonder if Jack is playing the oul trick of being seen in public in Mayo to put pressure on the Kerry CB to appoint him.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Blowitupref on September 12, 2018, 01:23:46 PM
If that's the case this will end similar to the previous JackO experiment all them years ago.
I reckon someone on our board has the "Kerrys golden years" video at home on constant loop and believes football ended sometime in the early 80s

Are you seriously comparing Jack O'Shea who never managed again to Jack O'Connor who won many All Irelands at schools,minor,U21 and senior level?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: iorras on September 12, 2018, 04:23:12 PM
If that's the case this will end similar to the previous JackO experiment all them years ago.
I reckon someone on our board has the "Kerrys golden years" video at home on constant loop and believes football ended sometime in the early 80s

Are you seriously comparing Jack O'Shea who never managed again to Jack O'Connor who won many All Irelands at schools,minor,U21 and senior level?
no. I'm not comparing them, but I am saying that if he goes to Mayo the end result will be more or less the same. "this will end similar to the previous JackO experiment all them years ago" was my comment

Why?
- He doesn't rate Mayo or Mayo football (source his book and other media comments)
- Its too far away from where he lives to be practical
- This bring in a celebrity manager rarely works anymore. Success over the past 10 - 15 years in both codes has come from someone generally in the county who understands the structures in that county and the personnel available to them
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: stephenite on September 13, 2018, 03:38:15 AM
If that's the case this will end similar to the previous JackO experiment all them years ago.
I reckon someone on our board has the "Kerrys golden years" video at home on constant loop and believes football ended sometime in the early 80s

I don’t understand this, Jack O’Connor has nothing to do with the Kerry establishment of those days. He is a proven manager at this level, and when not at this level is a proven All Ireland winner at underage.

Hell of a sight better than the one trick pony that is Jimmy McGuinness, we dodged a bullet with that charlatan who hasn’t achieved anything in Gaelic Football in years

That said, Horan should be the preferred candidate for me

The game has changed a lot at senior since even wee Jack was last in charge. Bizarre to call Jim McGuiness a charlatan when he still remains the last person to beat Dublin in the championship.

Enjoy being bled dry if this isn’t the usual wind up..

Jim MCG is a one trick pony, got out after he was found out
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Manning18 on September 13, 2018, 11:06:22 AM
If that's the case this will end similar to the previous JackO experiment all them years ago.
I reckon someone on our board has the "Kerrys golden years" video at home on constant loop and believes football ended sometime in the early 80s

I don’t understand this, Jack O’Connor has nothing to do with the Kerry establishment of those days. He is a proven manager at this level, and when not at this level is a proven All Ireland winner at underage.

Hell of a sight better than the one trick pony that is Jimmy McGuinness, we dodged a bullet with that charlatan who hasn’t achieved anything in Gaelic Football in years

That said, Horan should be the preferred candidate for me

The game has changed a lot at senior since even wee Jack was last in charge. Bizarre to call Jim McGuiness a charlatan when he still remains the last person to beat Dublin in the championship.

Enjoy being bled dry if this isn’t the usual wind up..

Jim MCG is a one trick pony, got out after he was found out

How was he found out? He got out after making an All Ireland final with an average to good group of players, beating the seemingly unbeatable Dubs and losing the final mainly because his goalkeeper kicked a short one straight to Donaghy.

His 4 years are probably one of the most impressive management stints in history, given what he achieved in a small county pick wise, where football isnt the most popular sport, with a moderately talented group of players whose historical team ethos involved more dancing on tables than dancing between cones.

It's unquestionable that teams have adapted against the defensive style and its no longer as effective. But who's to say he couldnt adapt with that? His 2011 style was markedly different from the way they played in 2014, and that last year he gave us was hardly unsuccessful as you seem to suggest.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: trileacman on September 13, 2018, 02:49:52 PM
If that's the case this will end similar to the previous JackO experiment all them years ago.
I reckon someone on our board has the "Kerrys golden years" video at home on constant loop and believes football ended sometime in the early 80s

I don’t understand this, Jack O’Connor has nothing to do with the Kerry establishment of those days. He is a proven manager at this level, and when not at this level is a proven All Ireland winner at underage.

Hell of a sight better than the one trick pony that is Jimmy McGuinness, we dodged a bullet with that charlatan who hasn’t achieved anything in Gaelic Football in years

That said, Horan should be the preferred candidate for me

The game has changed a lot at senior since even wee Jack was last in charge. Bizarre to call Jim McGuiness a charlatan when he still remains the last person to beat Dublin in the championship.

Enjoy being bled dry if this isn’t the usual wind up..

Jim MCG is a one trick pony, got out after he was found out

How was he found out? He got out after making an All Ireland final with an average to good group of players, beating the seemingly unbeatable Dubs and losing the final mainly because his goalkeeper kicked a short one straight to Donaghy.

His 4 years are probably one of the most impressive management stints in history, given what he achieved in a small county pick wise, where football isnt the most popular sport, with a moderately talented group of players whose historical team ethos involved more dancing on tables than dancing between cones.

It's unquestionable that teams have adapted against the defensive style and its no longer as effective. But who's to say he couldnt adapt with that? His 2011 style was markedly different from the way they played in 2014, and that last year he gave us was hardly unsuccessful as you seem to suggest.

Ignore him. Anyone who could favour a serial loser like Horan over Jim is clearly blinded by county loyalty.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Dubhaltach on September 13, 2018, 07:38:10 PM
If that's the case this will end similar to the previous JackO experiment all them years ago.
I reckon someone on our board has the "Kerrys golden years" video at home on constant loop and believes football ended sometime in the early 80s

I don’t understand this, Jack O’Connor has nothing to do with the Kerry establishment of those days. He is a proven manager at this level, and when not at this level is a proven All Ireland winner at underage.

Hell of a sight better than the one trick pony that is Jimmy McGuinness, we dodged a bullet with that charlatan who hasn’t achieved anything in Gaelic Football in years

That said, Horan should be the preferred candidate for me

The game has changed a lot at senior since even wee Jack was last in charge. Bizarre to call Jim McGuiness a charlatan when he still remains the last person to beat Dublin in the championship.

Enjoy being bled dry if this isn’t the usual wind up..

Jim MCG is a one trick pony, got out after he was found out

How was he found out? He got out after making an All Ireland final with an average to good group of players, beating the seemingly unbeatable Dubs and losing the final mainly because his goalkeeper kicked a short one straight to Donaghy.

His 4 years are probably one of the most impressive management stints in history, given what he achieved in a small county pick wise, where football isnt the most popular sport, with a moderately talented group of players whose historical team ethos involved more dancing on tables than dancing between cones.

It's unquestionable that teams have adapted against the defensive style and its no longer as effective. But who's to say he couldnt adapt with that? His 2011 style was markedly different from the way they played in 2014, and that last year he gave us was hardly unsuccessful as you seem to suggest.

I'd agree with most of that but the bit in bold is pure nonsense. Per registered player, Donegal have the biggest pick in Ulster and when you half Galway and Cork's pick due to the hurling split, they have 6th biggest pick of the football counties in Ireland.

https://www.balls.ie/gaa/gaa-investment-in-dublin-348120
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jinxy on September 13, 2018, 08:33:26 PM
Andy Moran being very diplomatic about the Rochford thing on OTB now.
I get the feeling the players are not overly cut up about him leaving.
Full of praise for Donie Buckley though.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Blowitupref on September 13, 2018, 09:26:37 PM
Andy Moran being very diplomatic about the Rochford thing on OTB now.
I get the feeling the players are not overly cut up about him leaving.
Full of praise for Donie Buckley though.
No surprise to hear that, the most important member on the Mayo management team the last number of years and won't be easy to find a like for like replacement for him now.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on September 13, 2018, 09:28:49 PM
Andy Moran being very diplomatic about the Rochford thing on OTB now.
I get the feeling the players are not overly cut up about him leaving.
Full of praise for Donie Buckley though.

Andy was the buck saying he was going to win multiple AIs a few years ago too. New man could come in and Andy might be a spectator next season.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: trileacman on September 13, 2018, 09:29:36 PM
Andy Moran being very diplomatic about the Rochford thing on OTB now.
I get the feeling the players are not overly cut up about him leaving.
Full of praise for Donie Buckley though.

I find it hard to trust a man who's had the same haircut since national school.




Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Jinxy on September 13, 2018, 10:13:13 PM
Very good panel in general with Andy, Joe Canning & Michael Quinlivan and Joe Molloy as MC.
As always, he knows when to ask a question and when to back off and let the speaker gather their thoughts.
Andy made some interesting points about the Newbridge affair from the actual playing perspective.
Joe Canning clarified that he was 100% going for a score with the last free that dropped short in the final.
Just tried to hit it too hard and ended up forcing it instead of relaxing and getting a cleaner strike.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: MayoBuck on September 13, 2018, 11:21:30 PM
Andy Moran being very diplomatic about the Rochford thing on OTB now.
I get the feeling the players are not overly cut up about him leaving.
Full of praise for Donie Buckley though.

Just listened to it there. Andy said they had a great 3 years with Rochford and that Donie Buckley did great work during his time as well. He also name checked the rest of the backroom team.

What else could he do? Saying he wished Rochford was remaining would do more harm than good at this stage.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: dublin7 on September 14, 2018, 07:27:38 AM
Andy Moran being very diplomatic about the Rochford thing on OTB now.
I get the feeling the players are not overly cut up about him leaving.
Full of praise for Donie Buckley though.

Andy was the buck saying he was going to win multiple AIs a few years ago too. New man could come in and Andy might be a spectator next season.

No way he gets dropped. He's still Mayo's best forward and they can't afford to drop him. That in itself is one of many issues for Mayo next year.

Wouldn't fancy taking on the Mayo job. That's a rebuilding job for whoever takes over. Considering Rochford got to the final in his 1st 2 seasons it seems ridiculously harsh to sack him this year. Good luck to the poor sod who has to work with that county board
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: iorras on September 14, 2018, 09:02:58 AM
Andy Moran being very diplomatic about the Rochford thing on OTB now.
I get the feeling the players are not overly cut up about him leaving.
Full of praise for Donie Buckley though.

Andy was the buck saying he was going to win multiple AIs a few years ago too. New man could come in and Andy might be a spectator next season.

No way he gets dropped. He's still Mayo's best forward and they can't afford to drop him. That in itself is one of many issues for Mayo next year.

Wouldn't fancy taking on the Mayo job. That's a rebuilding job for whoever takes over. Considering Rochford got to the final in his 1st 2 seasons it seems ridiculously harsh to sack him this year. Good luck to the poor sod who has to work with that county board
Agree with all that Dublin7 except the rebuilding bit, plenty of the big names are still in their prime despite seeming to be around forever and there are plenty of talented 22-34 year olds with all ireland medals in their pockets who could slot in there as they have been doing the work on the development/extended panels. Criticism around Rochford was that he hadnt blended some of those lads in but I think that was because they weren't ready. Ironically I think he had been doing the work to get them ready and the new manager may just reap the rewards for that and be instantly credited as being the man who introduced new blood even though Rochford had done all the ground work. Tough gig that management lark.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Manning18 on September 14, 2018, 10:09:55 PM
If that's the case this will end similar to the previous JackO experiment all them years ago.
I reckon someone on our board has the "Kerrys golden years" video at home on constant loop and believes football ended sometime in the early 80s

I don’t understand this, Jack O’Connor has nothing to do with the Kerry establishment of those days. He is a proven manager at this level, and when not at this level is a proven All Ireland winner at underage.

Hell of a sight better than the one trick pony that is Jimmy McGuinness, we dodged a bullet with that charlatan who hasn’t achieved anything in Gaelic Football in years

That said, Horan should be the preferred candidate for me

The game has changed a lot at senior since even wee Jack was last in charge. Bizarre to call Jim McGuiness a charlatan when he still remains the last person to beat Dublin in the championship.

Enjoy being bled dry if this isn’t the usual wind up..

Jim MCG is a one trick pony, got out after he was found out

How was he found out? He got out after making an All Ireland final with an average to good group of players, beating the seemingly unbeatable Dubs and losing the final mainly because his goalkeeper kicked a short one straight to Donaghy.

His 4 years are probably one of the most impressive management stints in history, given what he achieved in a small county pick wise, where football isnt the most popular sport, with a moderately talented group of players whose historical team ethos involved more dancing on tables than dancing between cones.

It's unquestionable that teams have adapted against the defensive style and its no longer as effective. But who's to say he couldnt adapt with that? His 2011 style was markedly different from the way they played in 2014, and that last year he gave us was hardly unsuccessful as you seem to suggest.

I'd agree with most of that but the bit in bold is pure nonsense. Per registered player, Donegal have the biggest pick in Ulster and when you half Galway and Cork's pick due to the hurling split, they have 6th biggest pick of the football counties in Ireland.

https://www.balls.ie/gaa/gaa-investment-in-dublin-348120

Balls.ie. Jaysus. It's a 130k population (loads of people living elsewhere ticking yes to the census back 'home'). If you've spent any time whatsoever in the county you'd know it's mainly soccer dominated bar the few backwater spots on the south and Western seaboard, places where they can barely keep 15 young lads to field a team because they're all in Canada or Australia. They have a moderate to small pick by any metric. Those numbers are no indication of actual patricipation. It's a very poor senior club scene with more than a few clubs struggling for numbers.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: heffo on September 15, 2018, 04:54:54 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/centre-cannot-hold-as-mayo-football-beset-by-turbulent-times-1.3629763


"As a small example, Rochford occasionally found himself having to justify not just the size of the playing group but sometimes even the presence or absence of certain named players.
“Some of the county board members would have liked to think they had an influence over who was on the panel and not on the panel, even though it wasn’t their place to do so,” says one member of the set-up. “Stephen had to deal with all that and other things like it. That’s noise and you have enough to be dealing with as a county manager without adding noise.”

If that's true it's just incredible
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Dubhaltach on September 15, 2018, 07:47:10 PM
If that's the case this will end similar to the previous JackO experiment all them years ago.
I reckon someone on our board has the "Kerrys golden years" video at home on constant loop and believes football ended sometime in the early 80s

I don’t understand this, Jack O’Connor has nothing to do with the Kerry establishment of those days. He is a proven manager at this level, and when not at this level is a proven All Ireland winner at underage.

Hell of a sight better than the one trick pony that is Jimmy McGuinness, we dodged a bullet with that charlatan who hasn’t achieved anything in Gaelic Football in years

That said, Horan should be the preferred candidate for me

The game has changed a lot at senior since even wee Jack was last in charge. Bizarre to call Jim McGuiness a charlatan when he still remains the last person to beat Dublin in the championship.

Enjoy being bled dry if this isn’t the usual wind up..

Jim MCG is a one trick pony, got out after he was found out

How was he found out? He got out after making an All Ireland final with an average to good group of players, beating the seemingly unbeatable Dubs and losing the final mainly because his goalkeeper kicked a short one straight to Donaghy.

His 4 years are probably one of the most impressive management stints in history, given what he achieved in a small county pick wise, where football isnt the most popular sport, with a moderately talented group of players whose historical team ethos involved more dancing on tables than dancing between cones.

It's unquestionable that teams have adapted against the defensive style and its no longer as effective. But who's to say he couldnt adapt with that? His 2011 style was markedly different from the way they played in 2014, and that last year he gave us was hardly unsuccessful as you seem to suggest.

I'd agree with most of that but the bit in bold is pure nonsense. Per registered player, Donegal have the biggest pick in Ulster and when you half Galway and Cork's pick due to the hurling split, they have 6th biggest pick of the football counties in Ireland.

https://www.balls.ie/gaa/gaa-investment-in-dublin-348120

Balls.ie. Jaysus. It's a 130k population (loads of people living elsewhere ticking yes to the census back 'home'). If you've spent any time whatsoever in the county you'd know it's mainly soccer dominated bar the few backwater spots on the south and Western seaboard, places where they can barely keep 15 young lads to field a team because they're all in Canada or Australia. They have a moderate to small pick by any metric. Those numbers are no indication of actual patricipation. It's a very poor senior club scene with more than a few clubs struggling for numbers.

 ;D Good man. If you don't think that the amount of registered adult club players in a county is the best way of gauging the size of pick that a county manager has then there's no point in talking to you.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on September 15, 2018, 08:17:14 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/centre-cannot-hold-as-mayo-football-beset-by-turbulent-times-1.3629763


"As a small example, Rochford occasionally found himself having to justify not just the size of the playing group but sometimes even the presence or absence of certain named players.
“Some of the county board members would have liked to think they had an influence over who was on the panel and not on the panel, even though it wasn’t their place to do so,” says one member of the set-up. “Stephen had to deal with all that and other things like it. That’s noise and you have enough to be dealing with as a county manager without adding noise.”

If that's true it's just incredible

Whats incredible , that a cb are asking why the f**k they are paying thousands of euros for players hanging around the panel making no inroads year after year whilst we let young fellas lose out on a couple of years development .

Listen cunty hooks just because ye have sfa all to worry about financially ,I'd say Leitrim do more actual fundraising than Dublin doesn't mean the mere mortals can be so casual 
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on September 15, 2018, 08:18:04 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/centre-cannot-hold-as-mayo-football-beset-by-turbulent-times-1.3629763


"As a small example, Rochford occasionally found himself having to justify not just the size of the playing group but sometimes even the presence or absence of certain named players.
“Some of the county board members would have liked to think they had an influence over who was on the panel and not on the panel, even though it wasn’t their place to do so,” says one member of the set-up. “Stephen had to deal with all that and other things like it. That’s noise and you have enough to be dealing with as a county manager without adding noise.”

If that's true it's just incredible

Whats incredible , that a cb are asking why the f**k they are paying thousands of euros for players hanging around the panel making no inroads year after year whilst we let young fellas lose out on a couple of years development .

Listen cunty hooks just because ye have sfa all to worry about financially ,I'd say Leitrim do more actual fundraising than Dublin doesn't mean the mere mortals can be so casual

Did you buy a ticket for the house raffle yet
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on September 16, 2018, 12:57:40 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/centre-cannot-hold-as-mayo-football-beset-by-turbulent-times-1.3629763


"As a small example, Rochford occasionally found himself having to justify not just the size of the playing group but sometimes even the presence or absence of certain named players.
“Some of the county board members would have liked to think they had an influence over who was on the panel and not on the panel, even though it wasn’t their place to do so,” says one member of the set-up. “Stephen had to deal with all that and other things like it. That’s noise and you have enough to be dealing with as a county manager without adding noise.”

If that's true it's just incredible

Whats incredible , that a cb are asking why the f**k they are paying thousands of euros for players hanging around the panel making no inroads year after year whilst we let young fellas lose out on a couple of years development .

Listen cunty hooks just because ye have sfa all to worry about financially ,I'd say Leitrim do more actual fundraising than Dublin doesn't mean the mere mortals can be so casual

There might have been an issue as well about player/players having to be in the team? Just saying.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: heffo on September 16, 2018, 01:16:04 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/centre-cannot-hold-as-mayo-football-beset-by-turbulent-times-1.3629763


"As a small example, Rochford occasionally found himself having to justify not just the size of the playing group but sometimes even the presence or absence of certain named players.
“Some of the county board members would have liked to think they had an influence over who was on the panel and not on the panel, even though it wasn’t their place to do so,” says one member of the set-up. “Stephen had to deal with all that and other things like it. That’s noise and you have enough to be dealing with as a county manager without adding noise.”

If that's true it's just incredible

Whats incredible


That panel size and governance aside, any member of the county board trying to exert an influence over who is and isn't on the panel is absolutely crazy.

A couple of years ago the previous management claimed the some high profile players from a particular club were trying to influence team/panel selection

If either is true it's madness.

Re fundraising, the Dublin panel and management have spent every winter fundraising from winning the AI until the team holiday but can we confine that to the Dublin threads?
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Post by: moysider on September 16, 2018, 01:47:12 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/centre-cannot-hold-as-mayo-football-beset-by-turbulent-times-1.3629763


"As a small example, Rochford occasionally found himself having to justify not just the size of the playing group but sometimes even the presence or absence of certain named players.
“Some of the county board members would have liked to think they had an influence over who was on the panel and not on the panel, even though it wasn’t their place to do so,” says one member of the set-up. “Stephen had to deal with all that and other things like it. That’s noise and you have enough to be dealing with as a county manager without adding noise.”

If that's true it's just incredible

Whats incredible


That panel size and governance aside, any member of the county board trying to exert an influence over who is and isn't on the panel is absolutely crazy.

A couple of years ago the previous management claimed the some high profile players from a particular club were trying to influence team/panel selection

If either is true it's madness.

Re fundraising, the Dublin panel and management have spent every winter fundraising from winning the AI until the team holiday but can we confine that to the Dublin threads?


Of course it is true. It would have worked too only for those pesky Dublin kids!

Just kidding on the working bit.

I dunno. As Clerkin wrote in that piece, the intrigue is more down to incompetence than shrewdness and the ability to make good judgements. Throw in a bit of nepotism like after Horan quit and the whole dysfunctional nature of things starts to ......... I was going to say make sense but making sense is something that is not going to be happeneing soon in Mayo.

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Post by: stephenite on September 16, 2018, 06:04:39 AM
It’s starting to become clear the damage the Connelly’s have done to Mayo football over the years.
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Post by: MayoBuck on September 17, 2018, 10:54:25 AM
According to the Western People Horan, Solan and Enda Gilvarry are allowing their names be put forward by the clubs. No other candidates are expected.
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Post by: iorras on September 17, 2018, 12:39:02 PM
According to the Western People Horan, Solan and Enda Gilvarry are allowing their names be put forward by the clubs. No other candidates are expected.
Is that as separate candidates or what?
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Post by: MayoBuck on September 17, 2018, 01:15:24 PM
According to the Western People Horan, Solan and Enda Gilvarry are allowing their names be put forward by the clubs. No other candidates are expected.
Is that as separate candidates or what?

Don't know... I'd imagine separate to begin with but maybe Solan/Gilvarry would be open to a selector role?
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Post by: Cunny Funt on September 17, 2018, 02:48:04 PM
According to the Western People Horan, Solan and Enda Gilvarry are allowing their names be put forward by the clubs. No other candidates are expected.

And to think some was surprised that James Horan would make a return.
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Post by: macdanger2 on September 17, 2018, 03:21:10 PM
According to the Western People Horan, Solan and Enda Gilvarry are allowing their names be put forward by the clubs. No other candidates are expected.

Where'd you see that? Print version? Website hasn't been updated in yonks!!
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Post by: Farrandeelin on September 17, 2018, 03:41:21 PM
According to the Western People Horan, Solan and Enda Gilvarry are allowing their names be put forward by the clubs. No other candidates are expected.
Is that as separate candidates or what?

Separate it seems. Horan is expected to challenge as well.
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Post by: macdanger2 on September 17, 2018, 04:40:36 PM
What has Gilvarry been doing since 2013? When did he finish with the minors?
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Post by: Cunny Funt on September 17, 2018, 05:02:16 PM
What has Gilvarry been doing since 2013? When did he finish with the minors?
He managed Mayo minors 2014,2015,2016 before stepping down.
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Post by: Crete Boom on September 17, 2018, 05:19:21 PM
What has Gilvarry been doing since 2013? When did he finish with the minors?
He managed Mayo minors 2014,2015,2016 before stepping down.

Manager of the Stephenites since 2017 and has done a good job bringing through a young team playing good open football. I don't think he is up to the Mayo job, maybe he should go for the U20's first whenever it becomes available.
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Post by: Cunny Funt on September 17, 2018, 05:28:42 PM
What has Gilvarry been doing since 2013? When did he finish with the minors?
He managed Mayo minors 2014,2015,2016 before stepping down.

Manager of the Stephenites since 2017 and has done a good job bringing through a young team playing good open football. I don't think he is up to the Mayo job, maybe he should go for the U20's first whenever it becomes available.
More than likely especially if Solan becomes part of Horan's management team.



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Post by: twohands!!! on September 17, 2018, 06:29:33 PM
According to the Western People Horan, Solan and Enda Gilvarry are allowing their names be put forward by the clubs. No other candidates are expected.

Would have to think that Solan is in pole position, as he person in situ.

I just can't see the Mayo County Board giving it to Horan again, too much bad blood still there.

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Post by: Blowitupref on September 17, 2018, 06:44:09 PM
According to the Western People Horan, Solan and Enda Gilvarry are allowing their names be put forward by the clubs. No other candidates are expected.

Would have to think that Solan is in pole position, as he person in situ.

I just can't see the Mayo County Board giving it to Horan again, too much bad blood still there.

Don't think Solan is ready for senior county management yet with high expectations like the Mayo senior job has. Isn't he younger than the likes of David Clarke and Andy Moran?
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Post by: MayoBuck on September 17, 2018, 07:10:46 PM
According to the Western People Horan, Solan and Enda Gilvarry are allowing their names be put forward by the clubs. No other candidates are expected.

Would have to think that Solan is in pole position, as he person in situ.

I just can't see the Mayo County Board giving it to Horan again, too much bad blood still there.

Don't think Solan is ready for senior county management yet with high expectations like the Mayo senior job has. Isn't he younger than the likes of David Clarke and Andy Moran?

Think Solan is about 35. I heard before he's a brother in law to Andy and David Drake. Not an ideal situation if you're the manager.
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Post by: Lar Naparka on September 17, 2018, 09:56:21 PM
According to the Western People Horan, Solan and Enda Gilvarry are allowing their names be put forward by the clubs. No other candidates are expected.

Would have to think that Solan is in pole position, as he person in situ.

I just can't see the Mayo County Board giving it to Horan again, too much bad blood still there.
I can't either, going by what Stephen Rochford has said about board members trying to influence his decisions on who should be selected.
Horan had a long-running fight with the county board from start to finish as it tried to curtail expenses and he was having none of this. I can't see any there rushing to welcome anyone back so he can tell them to take a running jump for themselves once again.
Still, he has widespread support from players and the public alike and both parties have had enough of the board's wheelings and dealings to last them some time.
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Post by: ballinaman on September 17, 2018, 10:04:07 PM
According to the Western People Horan, Solan and Enda Gilvarry are allowing their names be put forward by the clubs. No other candidates are expected.

Would have to think that Solan is in pole position, as he person in situ.

I just can't see the Mayo County Board giving it to Horan again, too much bad blood still there.

Don't think Solan is ready for senior county management yet with high expectations like the Mayo senior job has. Isn't he younger than the likes of David Clarke and Andy Moran?

Think Solan is about 35. I heard before he's a brother in law to Andy and David Drake. Not an ideal situation if you're the manager.
He's actually 24 and Conor O Sheas twin brother .more news from jimmy sloyan as we get it.
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Post by: Jinxy on September 17, 2018, 10:22:14 PM
The politics of Mayo football make me sick to my teeth.
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Post by: larryin89 on September 18, 2018, 07:44:42 AM
According to the Western People Horan, Solan and Enda Gilvarry are allowing their names be put forward by the clubs. No other candidates are expected.

Would have to think that Solan is in pole position, as he person in situ.

I just can't see the Mayo County Board giving it to Horan again, too much bad blood still there.

Don't think Solan is ready for senior county management yet with high expectations like the Mayo senior job has. Isn't he younger than the likes of David Clarke and Andy Moran?

Think Solan is about 35. I heard before he's a brother in law to Andy and David Drake. Not an ideal situation if you're the manager.

Solan is the same age as Andy ,played on the nathys team who got to the all Ireland with Andy in 2000 under Johnno.

Andy is married to Jennifer drake who is David's sister , not sure where solan is realted . They are obviously all best friends though . 

Be a big job for Solan , don't think he's ready for it yet .    Its a tough assignment for whoever gets it even Horan  .
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Post by: heffo on September 18, 2018, 08:52:36 AM
The politics of Mayo football make me sick to my teeth.

If it's not the Breaffy mafia picking the team it's the PRO
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Post by: macdanger2 on September 18, 2018, 10:18:40 AM
What has Gilvarry been doing since 2013? When did he finish with the minors?
He managed Mayo minors 2014,2015,2016 before stepping down.

Manager of the Stephenites since 2017 and has done a good job bringing through a young team playing good open football. I don't think he is up to the Mayo job, maybe he should go for the U20's first whenever it becomes available.

Cheers
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Post by: iorras on September 18, 2018, 12:21:29 PM
And all Jimmy wanted was a place kicker.
If only we read our history
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Post by: Blowitupref on September 18, 2018, 01:00:58 PM
Jimmy doesn't like Kevin McStay or Army cadets it seems.
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Post by: macdanger2 on September 18, 2018, 02:16:43 PM
Good article in the Mayo News about how out of date the method of selecting a manager is considering what the job has become. It probably applies to many counties apart from our own

http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/32657-examining-the-process-of-finding-a-manager

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Post by: shark on September 18, 2018, 02:48:25 PM
Good article in the Mayo News about how out of date the method of selecting a manager is considering what the job has become. It probably applies to many counties apart from our own

http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/32657-examining-the-process-of-finding-a-manager

That process is very common. The biggest obstacle to county boards functioning well is that the people most likely to want to occupy positions on a county board are exactly the people you don't want. Bringing in outside expertise to consult on important decisions like the appointment of senior manager would be more likely to produce the right candidate. I speak generally, rather than just about Mayo.
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Post by: five points on September 18, 2018, 02:53:13 PM
Good article in the Mayo News about how out of date the method of selecting a manager is considering what the job has become. It probably applies to many counties apart from our own

http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/32657-examining-the-process-of-finding-a-manager

That process is very common. The biggest obstacle to county boards functioning well is that the people most likely to want to occupy positions on a county board are exactly the people you don't want. Bringing in outside expertise to consult on important decisions like the appointment of senior manager would be more likely to produce the right candidate. I speak generally, rather than just about Mayo.

We once hired a recruitment firm and ended up with Tommy Tom Carr.
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Post by: shark on September 18, 2018, 03:30:17 PM
Good article in the Mayo News about how out of date the method of selecting a manager is considering what the job has become. It probably applies to many counties apart from our own

http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/32657-examining-the-process-of-finding-a-manager

That process is very common. The biggest obstacle to county boards functioning well is that the people most likely to want to occupy positions on a county board are exactly the people you don't want. Bringing in outside expertise to consult on important decisions like the appointment of senior manager would be more likely to produce the right candidate. I speak generally, rather than just about Mayo.

We once hired a recruitment firm and ended up with Tommy Tom Carr.

More likely, not guaranteed  ;)
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Post by: SLIGONIAN on September 18, 2018, 10:37:01 PM
Good article in the Mayo News about how out of date the method of selecting a manager is considering what the job has become. It probably applies to many counties apart from our own

http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/32657-examining-the-process-of-finding-a-manager

That process is very common. The biggest obstacle to county boards functioning well is that the people most likely to want to occupy positions on a county board are exactly the people you don't want. Bringing in outside expertise to consult on important decisions like the appointment of senior manager would be more likely to produce the right candidate. I speak generally, rather than just about Mayo.

We once hired a recruitment firm and ended up with Tommy Tom Carr.

More likely, not guaranteed  ;)
He was doing so well until he mentioned Enda Kenny. :o
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Post by: larryin89 on September 19, 2018, 11:55:27 AM
Horan nominated .
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Post by: TheGreatest on September 19, 2018, 12:54:18 PM
Horan nominated .

Hopefully so.....

 :D
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Post by: Farrandeelin on September 19, 2018, 01:11:31 PM
Horan nominated .

Anyone else?
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Post by: Halfquarter on September 19, 2018, 01:14:28 PM
Horan nominated .
Any link to this ?
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Post by: larryin89 on September 19, 2018, 01:21:45 PM
Not sure Farr. Heard gilvarry was but not sure.

What club nominated Horan was it Westport or tubber , matter of interest.
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Post by: Cunny Funt on September 19, 2018, 01:22:55 PM
Horan nominated .
Any link to this ?

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Post by: Halfquarter on September 19, 2018, 01:26:19 PM
Horan nominated .
Any link to this ?


Great,thanks.
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Post by: Tubberman on September 19, 2018, 01:26:54 PM
Not sure Farr. Heard gilvarry was but not sure.

What club nominated Horan was it Westport or tubber , matter of interest.

Gilvarry has said he won't be going for it.
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Post by: larryin89 on September 19, 2018, 01:30:47 PM
Not sure Farr. Heard gilvarry was but not sure.

What club nominated Horan was it Westport or tubber , matter of interest.

Gilvarry has said he won't be going for it.

Sound , cheers. Might be alone so . Can't see Solan going for itwith Horan going for it.
Probably be as well getting it sealed and James Horan can get the whole feast of football on show at McHale park the weekend. Really hope reape gets a right crack at for the league . He's showing so well .
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Post by: Maroon Manc on September 19, 2018, 01:40:32 PM
Not sure Farr. Heard gilvarry was but not sure.

What club nominated Horan was it Westport or tubber , matter of interest.

Gilvarry has said he won't be going for it.

Sound , cheers. Might be alone so . Can't see Solan going for itwith Horan going for it.
Probably be as well getting it sealed and James Horan can get the whole feast of football on show at McHale park the weekend. Really hope reape gets a right crack at for the league . He's showing so well .

I'd say Horan's backroom team would be far more expensive than what Rochford was proposing.
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Post by: Jinxy on September 19, 2018, 01:42:17 PM
Horan is the Michael D. Higgins of Mayo football.
If he wants the job, it's his.
The rest is all window dressing.
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Post by: ballinaman on September 19, 2018, 01:48:24 PM
Not sure Farr. Heard gilvarry was but not sure.

What club nominated Horan was it Westport or tubber , matter of interest.

Gilvarry has said he won't be going for it.

Sound , cheers. Might be alone so . Can't see Solan going for itwith Horan going for it.
Probably be as well getting it sealed and James Horan can get the whole feast of football on show at McHale park the weekend. Really hope reape gets a right crack at for the league . He's showing so well .

I'd say Horan's backroom team would be far more expensive than what Rochford was proposing.
Wouldn't be hard seeing as Rochford didn't have one , Forde/Conway was never a done deal.
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Post by: shark on September 19, 2018, 01:58:47 PM
Not sure Farr. Heard gilvarry was but not sure.

What club nominated Horan was it Westport or tubber , matter of interest.

Gilvarry has said he won't be going for it.

Sound , cheers. Might be alone so . Can't see Solan going for itwith Horan going for it.
Probably be as well getting it sealed and James Horan can get the whole feast of football on show at McHale park the weekend. Really hope reape gets a right crack at for the league . He's showing so well .

I'd say Horan's backroom team would be far more expensive than what Rochford was proposing.

If Horan is the manager then it won't be the Mayo county board funding the setup.
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Post by: joemamas on September 19, 2018, 02:00:18 PM
Not sure Farr. Heard gilvarry was but not sure.

What club nominated Horan was it Westport or tubber , matter of interest.


The "club for Common sense" , I know it is an oxymoron when used in any context with the Mayo county board.
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Post by: joemamas on September 19, 2018, 02:03:33 PM
Not sure Farr. Heard gilvarry was but not sure.

What club nominated Horan was it Westport or tubber , matter of interest.

Gilvarry has said he won't be going for it.

Sound , cheers. Might be alone so . Can't see Solan going for itwith Horan going for it.
Probably be as well getting it sealed and James Horan can get the whole feast of football on show at McHale park the weekend. Really hope reape gets a right crack at for the league . He's showing so well .

I'd say Horan's backroom team would be far more expensive than what Rochford was proposing.

If Horan is the manager then it won't be the Mayo county board funding the setup.

If I were the county board and I were serious about the commercial manager "hire" and his or her role and success,
I would just shut the F up and be thankful that Horan will be the new manager. Fundraising will be less of an issue for sure.
there are a lot of proud and genuine Mayo supporters throughout Ireland and the world for that matter.

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Post by: Jinxy on September 19, 2018, 02:08:48 PM
Horan has serious leverage here.
He knows that his appointment turns a bad news story into a good news story for the county board.
Everyone would be happy.
If he meets the board and comes out saying he doesn't feel they are willing to give him what he needs to bring Sam to Mayo, they are banjoed.
Plus, a management team including Horan would be more attractive to the higher-level outside coaches.
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Post by: Cunny Funt on September 19, 2018, 02:13:17 PM
Not sure Farr. Heard gilvarry was but not sure.

What club nominated Horan was it Westport or tubber , matter of interest.

Gilvarry has said he won't be going for it.

Sound , cheers. Might be alone so . Can't see Solan going for itwith Horan going for it.
Probably be as well getting it sealed and James Horan can get the whole feast of football on show at McHale park the weekend. Really hope reape gets a right crack at for the league . He's showing so well .

I'd say Horan's backroom team would be far more expensive than what Rochford was proposing.

If Horan is the manager then it won't be the Mayo county board funding the setup.
As was the case with Donie Buckley, Tony McEntee.
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Post by: macdanger2 on September 19, 2018, 03:36:06 PM
Any chance the selection committee would go out on a limb and ask Tommy C if he's interested?  :P
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Post by: larryin89 on September 19, 2018, 04:49:46 PM
Balintubber and kiltane , approved by Horan obviously.
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Post by: Jinxy on September 19, 2018, 04:54:20 PM
It's good that he has the O'Connors support anyway.
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Post by: Rossfan on September 19, 2018, 05:49:10 PM
Any chance the selection committee would go out on a limb and ask Tommy C if he's interested?  :P
He's gone with Tanman to the Biffos  ;D
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Post by: Lar Naparka on September 19, 2018, 09:04:55 PM
Any chance the selection committee would go out on a limb and ask Tommy C if he's interested?  :P
He's gone with Tanman to the Biffos  ;D
Both Horan and Solan have been nominated for selection and since the deadline for nominations has now passed, they are the only individuals in the running.
Just saw this on RTE News Now.
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Post by: iorras on September 20, 2018, 09:29:50 AM
Any chance the selection committee would go out on a limb and ask Tommy C if he's interested?  :P
He's gone with Tanman to the Biffos  ;D
Both Horan and Solan have been nominated for selection and since the deadline for nominations has now passed, they are the only individuals in the running.
Just saw this on RTE News Now.
I wonder will Solan take Horan on as a selector? you just know they are going to give it to him. They wont be able to help themselves
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Post by: highorlow on September 20, 2018, 09:56:46 AM
Quote
I wonder will Solan take Horan on as a selector? you just know they are going to give it to him. They wont be able to help themselves

Joint Managers?
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Post by: Rossfan on September 20, 2018, 10:39:00 AM
Not a good idea......
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Post by: Real Talk on September 20, 2018, 05:23:58 PM
From an outsider's view ...…
At this juncture in Mayo football and to get all their best players committed is James Horan not the best bet?
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Post by: joemamas on September 20, 2018, 07:19:44 PM
From an outsider's view ...…
At this juncture in Mayo football and to get all their best players committed is James Horan not the best bet?

Very much so
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Post by: Syferus on September 20, 2018, 07:36:14 PM
From an outsider's view ...…
At this juncture in Mayo football and to get all their best players committed is James Horan not the best bet?

But is a win now mentality the right one in a Mayo team that realistically hasn’t any hope of winning now? Horan showed a mistrust of youth last time..
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Post by: From the Bunker on September 22, 2018, 10:46:33 PM

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Post by: moysider on September 23, 2018, 12:08:35 AM
From an outsider's view ...…
At this juncture in Mayo football and to get all their best players committed is James Horan not the best bet?

But is a win now mentality the right one in a Mayo team that realistically hasn’t any hope of winning now? Horan showed a mistrust of youth last time..

What is that about?!
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Post by: bucko on September 23, 2018, 10:28:20 AM
According to today’s Sindo, Solan will have Tyrone’s Enda McGinley as part of his backroom team if he gets the job, along with his U20 selector John Ginty and a high profile former Mayo player.who is as yet nameless.
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Post by: REDCOL on September 23, 2018, 10:42:11 AM
Maurice Sheridan is the nameless one
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Post by: ballinaman on September 23, 2018, 11:12:33 AM
Peter Canavan and who else with Horan?
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Post by: Rossfan on September 23, 2018, 11:19:17 AM
Jim McGuinness, Rachel Wyse and Brian Carney.
Team be renamed MayowestrosSky.
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Post by: ballinaman on September 23, 2018, 11:27:54 AM
Jim McGuinness, Rachel Wyse and Brian Carney.
Team be renamed MayowestrosSky.
You'd defo pay to see us then Rossfan  :D
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Post by: Real Talk on September 23, 2018, 12:48:53 PM
Peter Canavan and who else with Horan?

Canavan not likely to get involved with Mayo
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Post by: Maroon Manc on September 26, 2018, 10:40:52 AM
Billy Sheehan will be involved with Solan, is that the same lad who was involved with Cork a few years ago?
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Post by: Orchard park on September 26, 2018, 11:40:17 AM
Billy Sheehan will be involved with Solan, is that the same lad who was involved with Cork a few years ago?

It is, former Kerry and Laos player
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Post by: iorras on September 26, 2018, 11:46:37 AM
Don't know a huge amount about him but wouldn't be getting too excited about him, he was somewhere else as well but don't think he has won anything of note as a coach.
Solan as well has Enda McGinley, lives in Antrim we hear, 5 hour drive to Castlebar. According to the Mayo news the angle with McGinley is that he has won 3 senior all Irelands but also translated underage IC medals into senior and has seen how that is done. The pitch is that he would be useful in trying to help the young Mayo talent to convert their underage success into senior. Don't know if he has been involved with other back room teams has he?
You'd have to imagine James Horan will now have to come out with some elements of his back room team. This battle is also being fought in the local process I think and Solan has put his cards on the table early. Personally I'm not too excited about his backroom team but I knew feck all about Donie Buckley back in the day either, indeed conventional wisdom from some in Mayo at the time might have been sure if hes any good why did Kerry let him go.
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Post by: Cunny Funt on September 26, 2018, 01:35:34 PM
Solan revealed to the Irish Examiner that a former Mayo senior footballer is also on the verge of joining his ticket and that he has an “experienced coach” lined up to train the Dublin-based Mayo players. 

Any ideas as to they might be?
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Post by: MayoBuck on September 26, 2018, 01:48:36 PM
Solan revealed to the Irish Examiner that a former Mayo senior footballer is also on the verge of joining his ticket and that he has an “experienced coach” lined up to train the Dublin-based Mayo players. 

Any ideas as to they might be?

Maurice Sheridan is probably the former Mayo footballer. I've heard him mentioned by a few people.
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Post by: spuds on September 26, 2018, 02:49:04 PM
Solan revealed to the Irish Examiner that a former Mayo senior footballer is also on the verge of joining his ticket and that he has an “experienced coach” lined up to train the Dublin-based Mayo players. 

Any ideas as to they might be?

Maurice Sheridan is probably the former Mayo footballer. I've heard him mentioned by a few people.
Maurice Galway based this long time.

Probably David Brady 👊.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: joemamas on September 26, 2018, 03:49:54 PM
Solan revealed to the Irish Examiner that a former Mayo senior footballer is also on the verge of joining his ticket and that he has an “experienced coach” lined up to train the Dublin-based Mayo players. 

Any ideas as to they might be?

Maurice Sheridan is probably the former Mayo footballer. I've heard him mentioned by a few people.
Maurice Galway based this long time.

Probably David Brady 👊.

Mother of God, I think I almost had a heart attack.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: iorras on September 26, 2018, 04:06:09 PM
Solan revealed to the Irish Examiner that a former Mayo senior footballer is also on the verge of joining his ticket and that he has an “experienced coach” lined up to train the Dublin-based Mayo players. 

Any ideas as to they might be?

Maurice Sheridan is probably the former Mayo footballer. I've heard him mentioned by a few people.
Yeah Maurice Sheridan is what I've heard also. DB is in for the Commercial Director position whenever it actually gets opened
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: twohands!!! on September 26, 2018, 09:15:58 PM
Billy Sheehan will be involved with Solan, is that the same lad who was involved with Cork a few years ago?

The only thing greater than Sheehan's ability to fall upwards seems to be his ambition.

He was with Cork for a year and was also part of the Offaly setup with Wallace for a few months.

Never seems to stay anywhere long-term.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: DuffleKing on September 27, 2018, 09:55:48 AM
Solan revealed to the Irish Examiner that a former Mayo senior footballer is also on the verge of joining his ticket and that he has an “experienced coach” lined up to train the Dublin-based Mayo players. 

Any ideas as to they might be?

Maurice Sheridan is probably the former Mayo footballer. I've heard him mentioned by a few people.
Yeah Maurice Sheridan is what I've heard also. DB is in for the Commercial Director position whenever it actually gets opened

What does Brady do professionally?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: five points on September 27, 2018, 10:48:56 AM
What does Brady do professionally?
Medical/pharma salesman selling to doctors surgeries, last time I heard anyway. Well regarded in the trade apparently.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Rossfan on September 27, 2018, 11:18:01 AM
Will ye have a manager in time for the NFL  or will ye wait till the Tanned One departs the Biffos in March?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: iorras on September 27, 2018, 11:35:46 AM
Will ye have a manager in time for the NFL  or will ye wait till the Tanned One departs the Biffos in March?
Dunno, sure the tanned one might go back to ye. He likes swanky buses that man.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: rosnarun on September 27, 2018, 12:02:11 PM
delas is done Horan manager  for 2 years and Solan his assistant with built in succession clause .
Selectors are Mike, Noel and ray connelly
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: shark on September 27, 2018, 12:54:39 PM
delas is done Horan manager  for 2 years and Solan his assistant with built in succession clause .
Selectors are Mike, Noel and ray connelly

Succession "clause"  ::) . They don't actually sign legally bound contracts, you do know that, right?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: macdanger2 on September 27, 2018, 01:55:20 PM
delas is done Horan manager  for 2 years and Solan his assistant with built in succession clause .
Selectors are Mike, Noel and ray connelly

Succession "clause"  ::) . They don't actually sign legally bound contracts, you do know that, right?

I'd say read who the selectors are again shark  :D
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: shark on September 27, 2018, 02:55:21 PM
delas is done Horan manager  for 2 years and Solan his assistant with built in succession clause .
Selectors are Mike, Noel and ray connelly

Succession "clause"  ::) . They don't actually sign legally bound contracts, you do know that, right?

I'd say read who the selectors are again shark  :D

Ha, ok fair enough. You do hear the talk of "contracts" quite often though when it comes to managers. As if there is actually such thing.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Tubberman on September 28, 2018, 03:48:09 PM
Solan has withdrawn!
Horan's gig now, hopefully Solan comes in with him.

https://twitter.com/mayonewssport/status/1045684932092276737 (https://twitter.com/mayonewssport/status/1045684932092276737)

Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: twohands!!! on September 28, 2018, 04:12:03 PM
Quote
STATEMENT RE: MIKE SOLAN REMOVES NAME FROM MANAGERS JOB
 Sep 28,2018
Mayo GAA have been informed by Mike Solan that he is withdrawing his name for the role as Mayo Senior football team manager. We would like to thank Mike for putting his name forward for the role & look forward to seeing him involved with Mayo GAA in the future. The officers of Mayo GAA will now meet with James Horan to discuss his management team & plans for 2019.

Statement from Mike Solan:
"Today, I have informed the Mayo County Board that I am withdrawing my name from the nomination process for the Mayo Senior Football Team Manager. I would like to thank everyone who helped me in this process and I would like to wish the Mayo Senior team every success in 2019 and beyond."

From the Mayo GAA website.

Can't help but feel he should have given a reason, even if it was only a cosmetic/makey-up one, as not giving one will lead to lots of speculation/gossip/rumours.

Oh to be a fly on the wall for the meeting between Horan and the officers of the Mayo GAA - be some laugh if he came out and said his planned management team were going to be Peter Ford and Shane Conway.

Will there be a bit of a shotgun wedding feel if/when Horan gets ratified? It doesn't exactly inspire confidence that the drama will end here.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Tubberman on September 28, 2018, 04:21:15 PM
Quote
STATEMENT RE: MIKE SOLAN REMOVES NAME FROM MANAGERS JOB
 Sep 28,2018
Mayo GAA have been informed by Mike Solan that he is withdrawing his name for the role as Mayo Senior football team manager. We would like to thank Mike for putting his name forward for the role & look forward to seeing him involved with Mayo GAA in the future. The officers of Mayo GAA will now meet with James Horan to discuss his management team & plans for 2019.

Statement from Mike Solan:
"Today, I have informed the Mayo County Board that I am withdrawing my name from the nomination process for the Mayo Senior Football Team Manager. I would like to thank everyone who helped me in this process and I would like to wish the Mayo Senior team every success in 2019 and beyond."

From the Mayo GAA website.

Can't help but feel he should have given a reason, even if it was only a cosmetic/makey-up one, as not giving one will lead to lots of speculation/gossip/rumours.

Oh to be a fly on the wall for the meeting between Horan and the officers of the Mayo GAA - be some laugh if he came out and said his planned management team were going to be Peter Ford and Shane Conway.

Will there be a bit of a shotgun wedding feel if/when Horan gets ratified? It doesn't exactly inspire confidence that the drama will end here.

There was obviously some behind-the-scenes negotiations - we may yet see Solan on the mgmt ticket, a lot of people would be happy with that outcome.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on September 28, 2018, 04:26:20 PM
The amount of money the bag handlers are going to have to be fronting for a Horan style set-up when the team itself is in need of a near-complete overhaul seems like a form of madness.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: twohands!!! on September 28, 2018, 04:30:07 PM
Quote
STATEMENT RE: MIKE SOLAN REMOVES NAME FROM MANAGERS JOB
 Sep 28,2018
Mayo GAA have been informed by Mike Solan that he is withdrawing his name for the role as Mayo Senior football team manager. We would like to thank Mike for putting his name forward for the role & look forward to seeing him involved with Mayo GAA in the future. The officers of Mayo GAA will now meet with James Horan to discuss his management team & plans for 2019.

Statement from Mike Solan:
"Today, I have informed the Mayo County Board that I am withdrawing my name from the nomination process for the Mayo Senior Football Team Manager. I would like to thank everyone who helped me in this process and I would like to wish the Mayo Senior team every success in 2019 and beyond."

From the Mayo GAA website.

Can't help but feel he should have given a reason, even if it was only a cosmetic/makey-up one, as not giving one will lead to lots of speculation/gossip/rumours.

Oh to be a fly on the wall for the meeting between Horan and the officers of the Mayo GAA - be some laugh if he came out and said his planned management team were going to be Peter Ford and Shane Conway.

Will there be a bit of a shotgun wedding feel if/when Horan gets ratified? It doesn't exactly inspire confidence that the drama will end here.

There was obviously some behind-the-scenes negotiations - we may yet see Solan on the mgmt ticket, a lot of people would be happy with that outcome.

If the behind-the-scenes negotiations had been done and dusted and Solan was getting a place on the mgmt ticket, everything would surely have all been announced as a package deal all together.

Based on Solan's statement and the fact that the county board have said they going to have discussions with Horan, I wouldn't rate the chances of Solan being involved with the seniors very high.

Given the way things go for Mayo GAA, I'm half-expecting a meeting to take place and the county board to say that they couldn't come to agreement with Horan.

Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns??
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 28, 2018, 05:26:55 PM
Would James Horan take the job again at some point in the future?
Is he over anyone at the moment?
Managing Wesport seniors at the moment and i can imagine he will manage Mayo seniors again in the near future.

I did call it when some thought Horan was a non runner for a return ;)
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on September 28, 2018, 07:05:05 PM
The amount of money the bag handlers are going to have to be fronting for a Horan style set-up when the team itself is in need of a near-complete overhaul seems like a form of madness.

Pure madness syf , I tell ya , pure madness.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: dublin7 on September 28, 2018, 07:49:09 PM
The amount of money the bag handlers are going to have to be fronting for a Horan style set-up when the team itself is in need of a near-complete overhaul seems like a form of madness.

I don't often agree with Syf(who does) but the Mayo job is a rebuilding job. Is Horan going to stick around for 3/4 years or is he just in it for 1/2 years to try and get one last push from the current panel and stick with the same older players. That won't work and will set mayo football back years
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Rossfan on September 28, 2018, 08:32:46 PM
Hopefully the latter ;D
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 28, 2018, 08:38:00 PM
The third 'second coming'. Third time lucky?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 28, 2018, 08:44:10 PM
The third 'second coming'. Third time lucky?
4th second coming since the late 80s. John O'Mahony,John Maughan and Pat Holmes
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on September 28, 2018, 10:01:10 PM
The amount of money the bag handlers are going to have to be fronting for a Horan style set-up when the team itself is in need of a near-complete overhaul seems like a form of madness.

I don't often agree with Syf(who does) but the Mayo job is a rebuilding job. Is Horan going to stick around for 3/4 years or is he just in it for 1/2 years to try and get one last push from the current panel and stick with the same older players. That won't work and will set mayo football back years

Sure if he only hung around long enough to put a stop to the five-in-a-row wouldn't it be better than nothing? We're not a people that can afford to be choosy you know.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on September 28, 2018, 10:02:47 PM
The amount of money the bag handlers are going to have to be fronting for a Horan style set-up when the team itself is in need of a near-complete overhaul seems like a form of madness.

I don't often agree with Syf(who does) but the Mayo job is a rebuilding job. Is Horan going to stick around for 3/4 years or is he just in it for 1/2 years to try and get one last push from the current panel and stick with the same older players. That won't work and will set mayo football back years

Sure if he only hung around long enough to put a stop to the five-in-a-row wouldn't it be better than nothing? We're not a people that can afford to be choosy you know.

Unless he has a time machine he isn’t stopping shît.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: From the Bunker on September 28, 2018, 10:17:16 PM
This is a strange place for Mayo football! What every pundit has said about this squad since the 2012 final loss. Looks to finally have happened - they have ran out of gas! This crowd kept coming back and back that we even doubted ourselves that they would go away.

Horan must be mad to go back! It holds nothing but failure for him.

 
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Lar Naparka on September 28, 2018, 11:40:32 PM
This is a strange place for Mayo football! What every pundit has said about this squad since the 2012 final loss. Looks to finally have happened - they have ran out of gas! This crowd kept coming back and back that we even doubted ourselves that they would go away.

Horan must be mad to go back! It holds nothing but failure for him.
Arra, I wouldn’t be too worried- not yet anyway.  ;D
What people have been saying year upon year has been wrong every time, up to the end of last year  anyway.  I think the early exit from the championship this year will prove to have been a bonus for the veterans when the dust has settled and we can look back in hindsight.
I expect very few, if any, will turn an invitation from James to stay on for one more fling. By any standard you’d care to mention, all of those who have been around when he was still in charge are exceptional men and the rules of conventional logic don’t always apply to all or any of them. I can’t see Clarke, Barrett, Cafferky, Higgins, Keegan or Paddy Durcan calling it a day and that’s only the backs.
Seamie is a doubt, IMO anyway. But if Tom Parsons gets back to anything like full match fitness, it will be a massive boost for James’s chances of hitting the ground running.
Upfront, Kevin Mac, the O’Connors and Jason Doherty should have plenty left in the tank yet. If Andy was an ordinary man, he’d be gone by now but he isn’t and he won’t. I think he still as the capacity to add a lot to the team, as an impact sub if nothing else.
Dunno too much about those waiting in the wings but Eoin O’Donoghue and James Durcan have impressed me a lot. Young Loftus looks talented but a bit immature to date.
I’ll expect a changed man  when next season comes around.
It’s about time that a few more of the successful u21s began to show their mettle. All in all, Mayo will still be around for some time yet.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on September 29, 2018, 12:52:45 AM
On what planet do you live on where you think Tom Parsons is going to play IC football in 2019. If he ever plays at that level again even as a ceremonial sub he will have beaten long odds. It might be the single most horrorfic and damaging knee injury I’ve seen on a football field.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Farrandeelin on September 29, 2018, 09:18:33 AM
The third 'second coming'. Third time lucky?
4th second coming since the late 80s. John O'Mahony,John Maughan and Pat Holmes

Jesus, forgot about Holmes!
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Rossfan on September 29, 2018, 10:39:57 AM
How did those second comings work out?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on September 29, 2018, 11:58:22 AM
The Galway wans and the Roscommon wans seem awful concerned about horans appointment. I don't think ye have a notion on the mans character or ability if you think he's going to be a failure   . He will win the Nestor cup back in his first year , he loves batin Galway .
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on September 29, 2018, 12:01:24 PM
On what planet do you live on where you think Tom Parsons is going to play IC football in 2019. If he ever plays at that level again even as a ceremonial sub he will have beaten long odds. It might be the single most horrorfic and damaging knee injury I’ve seen on a football field.

Planet earth young man. If parsons plays for Mayo next year will you retire from the mayo realted threads ?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 29, 2018, 01:39:06 PM
The Galway wans and the Roscommon wans seem awful concerned about horans appointment. I don't think ye have a notion on the mans character or ability if you think he's going to be a failure   . He will win the Nestor cup back in his first year , he loves batin Galway .

I don't think anyone from Galway even commented from what I can see.

I will say though that it will be interesting to see how Horan gets on. Being honest the first time round he was up against very callow Galway and Roscommon sides. That is no longer the case so even Connacht will be a much bigger challenge for him. Let alone the All-Ireland.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on September 29, 2018, 02:26:53 PM
The amount of money the bag handlers are going to have to be fronting for a Horan style set-up when the team itself is in need of a near-complete overhaul seems like a form of madness.

I don't often agree with Syf(who does) but the Mayo job is a rebuilding job. Is Horan going to stick around for 3/4 years or is he just in it for 1/2 years to try and get one last push from the current panel and stick with the same older players. That won't work and will set mayo football back years

Honestly I think that they need to give the core squad one more year of a big push, I’d imagine that’s how they’d have the older players committed for one more drive at it
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: dublin7 on September 29, 2018, 03:04:28 PM
The amount of money the bag handlers are going to have to be fronting for a Horan style set-up when the team itself is in need of a near-complete overhaul seems like a form of madness.

I don't often agree with Syf(who does) but the Mayo job is a rebuilding job. Is Horan going to stick around for 3/4 years or is he just in it for 1/2 years to try and get one last push from the current panel and stick with the same older players. That won't work and will set mayo football back years

Honestly I think that they need to give the core squad one more year of a big push, I’d imagine that’s how they’d have the older players committed for one more drive at it

That's the wrong way to go. Best days are behind them and if they weren't good enough last year how can the same players 2 years older be good enough to get over the line? If the same players all start next season and they all retire together, what happens then?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Lar Naparka on September 29, 2018, 03:06:49 PM
On what planet do you live on where you think Tom Parsons is going to play IC football in 2019. If he ever plays at that level again even as a ceremonial sub he will have beaten long odds. It might be the single most horrorfic and damaging knee injury I’ve seen on a football field.

Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on September 29, 2018, 03:22:41 PM
On what planet do you live on where you think Tom Parsons is going to play IC football in 2019. If he ever plays at that level again even as a ceremonial sub he will have beaten long odds. It might be the single most horrorfic and damaging knee injury I’ve seen on a football field.



You didn’t answer the question. I haven’t met even the most optimistic Mayo fanwagoner who thinks Parsons will contribute much of anything in 2019. Lad needs to be left alone and not pressured into making some sort of Lazurus-style return. He’s basically working off of a knee that’s been constructed on a surgeon’s table.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: From the Bunker on September 29, 2018, 03:30:43 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0928/998703-tom-parsons-i-have-somebodys-ligaments-in-my-knee/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0928/998703-tom-parsons-i-have-somebodys-ligaments-in-my-knee/)
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Lar Naparka on September 29, 2018, 07:01:17 PM
On what planet do you live on where you think Tom Parsons is going to play IC football in 2019. If he ever plays at that level again even as a ceremonial sub he will have beaten long odds. It might be the single most horrorfic and damaging knee injury I’ve seen on a football field.



You didn’t answer the question. I haven’t met even the most optimistic Mayo fanwagoner who thinks Parsons will contribute much of anything in 2019. Lad needs to be left alone and not pressured into making some sort of Lazurus-style return. He’s basically working off of a knee that’s been constructed on a surgeon’s table.
This is getting embarrassing....
Where did I say anything about Tom's chances of playing this or any other year?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on September 29, 2018, 07:23:54 PM
On what planet do you live on where you think Tom Parsons is going to play IC football in 2019. If he ever plays at that level again even as a ceremonial sub he will have beaten long odds. It might be the single most horrorfic and damaging knee injury I’ve seen on a football field.



You didn’t answer the question. I haven’t met even the most optimistic Mayo fanwagoner who thinks Parsons will contribute much of anything in 2019. Lad needs to be left alone and not pressured into making some sort of Lazurus-style return. He’s basically working off of a knee that’s been constructed on a surgeon’s table.
This is getting embarrassing....
Where did I say anything about Tom's chances of playing this or any other year?

You’re still an ass, I see.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: From the Bunker on September 30, 2018, 10:04:08 AM
A lot of Mayo lads living in a fantasy world here. The Gig is up for most of our 2006 AI under 21's in the squad. They are now 32-34 years old. Andy has to be 36 next year.
Parson's injury is very serious and talk of a 2019 return is bordering on crazy.  He is one of our biggest losses and there is a Domino effect filling up the gap left from not being available.

Vaughan and Keegan have had serious injuries in the last 12 months. The pre-30's lads have had huge Championship mileage the last 8 years.

If we make the Super 8's through the front door (not a given), We will then have 3 weeks out in a month with an aged and battle weary team. Less games is what Mayo need.

If we make the AI final we will be 2 years older than the last time we were there. Yes 2 years older!

Dublin's squad is getting younger and fresher.

And finally the last hindrance. All these guys know the journey ahead of them. They know what has to be done to get to an All Ireland final - It's a long journey and there has to been no reward at the end for any of this squad. You might think you are ready for one more big push but really you can be in denial of where you really are as a player and a squad.

(I hope I'm wrong.)


Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on September 30, 2018, 08:25:58 PM
Maybe you're correct bunker but I'm not sure I understand not just your logic but a lot of the people.

Name the starting fifteen for next year and then ask yourself is that a good side , are they capable of landing the Nestor cup . If the answer is yes , then we find ourselves in the super 8 , is it really beyond reason to think we could then push on for a semi final spot?  We have young individuals capable of replacing lads who might be better suited to impact sub role next year . Mayo for all its bad press about not having lads capable to slot in are slowly showing signs of a new generation . Darmuid o connor is a prime example , the way he's talked about youd think he was in his 30s , the man is 23 with a rolls Royce engine .

I think horan will pull a master stroke in bringing in two Westport youngsters who will be solid additions .
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: From the Bunker on September 30, 2018, 08:31:54 PM
Maybe you're correct bunker but I'm not sure I understand not just your logic but a lot of the people.

Name the starting fifteen for next year and then ask yourself is that a good side , are they capable of landing the Nestor cup . If the answer is yes , then we find ourselves in the super 8 , is it really beyond reason to think we could then push on for a semi final spot?  We have young individuals capable of replacing lads who might be better suited to impact sub role next year . Mayo for all its bad press about not having lads capable to slot in are slowly showing signs of a new generation . Darmuid o connor is a prime example , the way he's talked about youd think he was in his 30s , the man is 23 with a rolls Royce engine .

I think horan will pull a master stroke in bringing in two Westport youngsters who will be solid additions .

Were they good enough to win the Nestor Cup in 2016, 2017 and 2018? And did they? Why not? What would guarantee us to win it in 2019?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on September 30, 2018, 11:54:17 PM
A lot of Mayo lads living in a fantasy world here. The Gig is up for most of our 2006 AI under 21's in the squad. They are now 32-34 years old. Andy has to be 36 next year.
Parson's injury is very serious and talk of a 2019 return is bordering on crazy.  He is one of our biggest losses and there is a Domino effect filling up the gap left from not being available.

Vaughan and Keegan have had serious injuries in the last 12 months. The pre-30's lads have had huge Championship mileage the last 8 years.

If we make the Super 8's through the front door (not a given), We will then have 3 weeks out in a month with an aged and battle weary team. Less games is what Mayo need.

If we make the AI final we will be 2 years older than the last time we were there. Yes 2 years older!

Dublin's squad is getting younger and fresher.

And finally the last hindrance. All these guys know the journey ahead of them. They know what has to be done to get to an All Ireland final - It's a long journey and there has to been no reward at the end for any of this squad. You might think you are ready for one more big push but really you can be in denial of where you really are as a player and a squad.

(I hope I'm wrong.)

It will 4 years since Horan left when the next campaign starts. The transition after Horan left was not handled well and there has been a dysfunctional feel about the years since.
Again after Rochford there are 'issues' about what is happening next.
Solan dropping out raises questions. I've heard he has also cashed in his chips with the U20 gig. That might turn out to be a load of bollocks of course.
I know of at least one of the older hands who has not decided about going at it again. Like you Bunker, I would not be overly hopeful.
We need a new midfield for a start. Seamie, Tom P. and Big Bird are yesterday's men.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: mayoman dan on October 01, 2018, 06:52:13 PM
A lot of Mayo lads living in a fantasy world here. The Gig is up for most of our 2006 AI under 21's in the squad. They are now 32-34 years old. Andy has to be 36 next year.
Parson's injury is very serious and talk of a 2019 return is bordering on crazy.  He is one of our biggest losses and there is a Domino effect filling up the gap left from not being available.

Vaughan and Keegan have had serious injuries in the last 12 months. The pre-30's lads have had huge Championship mileage the last 8 years.

If we make the Super 8's through the front door (not a given), We will then have 3 weeks out in a month with an aged and battle weary team. Less games is what Mayo need.

If we make the AI final we will be 2 years older than the last time we were there. Yes 2 years older!

Dublin's squad is getting younger and fresher.

And finally the last hindrance. All these guys know the journey ahead of them. They know what has to be done to get to an All Ireland final - It's a long journey and there has to been no reward at the end for any of this squad. You might think you are ready for one more big push but really you can be in denial of where you really are as a player and a squad.

(I hope I'm wrong.)

It will 4 years since Horan left when the next campaign starts. The transition after Horan left was not handled well and there has been a dysfunctional feel about the years since.
Again after Rochford there are 'issues' about what is happening next.
Solan dropping out raises questions. I've heard he has also cashed in his chips with the U20 gig. That might turn out to be a load of bollocks of course.
I know of at least one of the older hands who has not decided about going at it again. Like you Bunker, I would not be overly hopeful.
We need a new midfield for a start. Seamie, Tom P. and Big Bird are yesterday's men.


I wouldnt be as pessimistic as some on here about our chances next year.If Horan gets the job i dont think anyone will step away but bar maybe Clarke and Higgins i dont think any of the older players are starters anymore.Higgins may also have to settle for a role as impact sub.With no retirements Clarke will be in goal.Our back 6 will be Barrett Harrisson O Donoghue Keegan Coen Durcan.Diarmuid at midfield.Aido Mc Loughlin Cillian and Doherty are all likely to start in the forwards so we need to find a midfielder and some forwards.Boyle Higgins Seamus O Se and of course Andy as impact subs and its not looking to shabby.IMO Doherty needs to be played in the Andy role at ff with Cillian pulling the strings from cf.Who the forwards are is anyones guess but i would like to see Naughton James Carr and Reape given a proper chance.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on October 01, 2018, 07:06:56 PM
A lot of Mayo lads living in a fantasy world here. The Gig is up for most of our 2006 AI under 21's in the squad. They are now 32-34 years old. Andy has to be 36 next year.
Parson's injury is very serious and talk of a 2019 return is bordering on crazy.  He is one of our biggest losses and there is a Domino effect filling up the gap left from not being available.

Vaughan and Keegan have had serious injuries in the last 12 months. The pre-30's lads have had huge Championship mileage the last 8 years.

If we make the Super 8's through the front door (not a given), We will then have 3 weeks out in a month with an aged and battle weary team. Less games is what Mayo need.

If we make the AI final we will be 2 years older than the last time we were there. Yes 2 years older!

Dublin's squad is getting younger and fresher.

And finally the last hindrance. All these guys know the journey ahead of them. They know what has to be done to get to an All Ireland final - It's a long journey and there has to been no reward at the end for any of this squad. You might think you are ready for one more big push but really you can be in denial of where you really are as a player and a squad.

(I hope I'm wrong.)

It will 4 years since Horan left when the next campaign starts. The transition after Horan left was not handled well and there has been a dysfunctional feel about the years since.
Again after Rochford there are 'issues' about what is happening next.
Solan dropping out raises questions. I've heard he has also cashed in his chips with the U20 gig. That might turn out to be a load of bollocks of course.
I know of at least one of the older hands who has not decided about going at it again. Like you Bunker, I would not be overly hopeful.
We need a new midfield for a start. Seamie, Tom P. and Big Bird are yesterday's men.


I wouldnt be as pessimistic as some on here about our chances next year.If Horan gets the job i dont think anyone will step away but bar maybe Clarke and Higgins i dont think any of the older players are starters anymore.Higgins may also have to settle for a role as impact sub.With no retirements Clarke will be in goal.Our back 6 will be Barrett Harrisson O Donoghue Keegan Coen Durcan.Diarmuid at midfield.Aido Mc Loughlin Cillian and Doherty are all likely to start in the forwards so we need to find a midfielder and some forwards.Boyle Higgins Seamus O Se and of course Andy as impact subs and its not looking to shabby.IMO Doherty needs to be played in the Andy role at ff with Cillian pulling the strings from cf.Who the forwards are is anyones guess but i would like to see Naughton James Carr and Reape given a proper chance.

How did this superb team lose to Kildare this year but will be expected to compete for an AI with a year more on the clock?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: mayoman dan on October 01, 2018, 07:19:33 PM
A lot of Mayo lads living in a fantasy world here. The Gig is up for most of our 2006 AI under 21's in the squad. They are now 32-34 years old. Andy has to be 36 next year.
Parson's injury is very serious and talk of a 2019 return is bordering on crazy.  He is one of our biggest losses and there is a Domino effect filling up the gap left from not being available.

Vaughan and Keegan have had serious injuries in the last 12 months. The pre-30's lads have had huge Championship mileage the last 8 years.

If we make the Super 8's through the front door (not a given), We will then have 3 weeks out in a month with an aged and battle weary team. Less games is what Mayo need.

If we make the AI final we will be 2 years older than the last time we were there. Yes 2 years older!

Dublin's squad is getting younger and fresher.

And finally the last hindrance. All these guys know the journey ahead of them. They know what has to be done to get to an All Ireland final - It's a long journey and there has to been no reward at the end for any of this squad. You might think you are ready for one more big push but really you can be in denial of where you really are as a player and a squad.

(I hope I'm wrong.)

It will 4 years since Horan left when the next campaign starts. The transition after Horan left was not handled well and there has been a dysfunctional feel about the years since.
Again after Rochford there are 'issues' about what is happening next.
Solan dropping out raises questions. I've heard he has also cashed in his chips with the U20 gig. That might turn out to be a load of bollocks of course.
I know of at least one of the older hands who has not decided about going at it again. Like you Bunker, I would not be overly hopeful.
We need a new midfield for a start. Seamie, Tom P. and Big Bird are yesterday's men.


I wouldnt be as pessimistic as some on here about our chances next year.If Horan gets the job i dont think anyone will step away but bar maybe Clarke and Higgins i dont think any of the older players are starters anymore.Higgins may also have to settle for a role as impact sub.With no retirements Clarke will be in goal.Our back 6 will be Barrett Harrisson O Donoghue Keegan Coen Durcan.Diarmuid at midfield.Aido Mc Loughlin Cillian and Doherty are all likely to start in the forwards so we need to find a midfielder and some forwards.Boyle Higgins Seamus O Se and of course Andy as impact subs and its not looking to shabby.IMO Doherty needs to be played in the Andy role at ff with Cillian pulling the strings from cf.Who the forwards are is anyones guess but i would like to see Naughton James Carr and Reape given a proper chance.

How did this superb team lose to Kildare this year but will be expected to compete for an AI with a year more on the clock?

Keegan and Vaughan not match fit after serious injuries.
Our  first choice midfield gone.
Newbridge or nowhere galvanised a very good Kildare team.
The hottest weather in 30 years took a toll on a lot of our players.

As an aside you have serious interest in Mayo syferus.Was it always this way or is only since we sent ye back to the stone age with a 20 something point mauling in Croke park?????
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on October 01, 2018, 07:28:10 PM
A lot of Mayo lads living in a fantasy world here. The Gig is up for most of our 2006 AI under 21's in the squad. They are now 32-34 years old. Andy has to be 36 next year.
Parson's injury is very serious and talk of a 2019 return is bordering on crazy.  He is one of our biggest losses and there is a Domino effect filling up the gap left from not being available.

Vaughan and Keegan have had serious injuries in the last 12 months. The pre-30's lads have had huge Championship mileage the last 8 years.

If we make the Super 8's through the front door (not a given), We will then have 3 weeks out in a month with an aged and battle weary team. Less games is what Mayo need.

If we make the AI final we will be 2 years older than the last time we were there. Yes 2 years older!

Dublin's squad is getting younger and fresher.

And finally the last hindrance. All these guys know the journey ahead of them. They know what has to be done to get to an All Ireland final - It's a long journey and there has to been no reward at the end for any of this squad. You might think you are ready for one more big push but really you can be in denial of where you really are as a player and a squad.

(I hope I'm wrong.)

It will 4 years since Horan left when the next campaign starts. The transition after Horan left was not handled well and there has been a dysfunctional feel about the years since.
Again after Rochford there are 'issues' about what is happening next.
Solan dropping out raises questions. I've heard he has also cashed in his chips with the U20 gig. That might turn out to be a load of bollocks of course.
I know of at least one of the older hands who has not decided about going at it again. Like you Bunker, I would not be overly hopeful.
We need a new midfield for a start. Seamie, Tom P. and Big Bird are yesterday's men.


I wouldnt be as pessimistic as some on here about our chances next year.If Horan gets the job i dont think anyone will step away but bar maybe Clarke and Higgins i dont think any of the older players are starters anymore.Higgins may also have to settle for a role as impact sub.With no retirements Clarke will be in goal.Our back 6 will be Barrett Harrisson O Donoghue Keegan Coen Durcan.Diarmuid at midfield.Aido Mc Loughlin Cillian and Doherty are all likely to start in the forwards so we need to find a midfielder and some forwards.Boyle Higgins Seamus O Se and of course Andy as impact subs and its not looking to shabby.IMO Doherty needs to be played in the Andy role at ff with Cillian pulling the strings from cf.Who the forwards are is anyones guess but i would like to see Naughton James Carr and Reape given a proper chance.

How did this superb team lose to Kildare this year but will be expected to compete for an AI with a year more on the clock?

Keegan and Vaughan not match fit after serious injuries.
Our  first choice midfield gone.
Newbridge or nowhere galvanised a very good Kildare team.
The hottest weather in 30 years took a toll on a lot of our players.

As an aside you have serious interest in Mayo syferus.Was it always this way or is only since we sent ye back to the stone age with a 20 something point mauling in Croke park?????

Unless they’ve got the championship moved the old men are likely to have or deal with hot weather in summer 2019 too..
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: mayoman dan on October 01, 2018, 07:32:49 PM
A lot of Mayo lads living in a fantasy world here. The Gig is up for most of our 2006 AI under 21's in the squad. They are now 32-34 years old. Andy has to be 36 next year.
Parson's injury is very serious and talk of a 2019 return is bordering on crazy.  He is one of our biggest losses and there is a Domino effect filling up the gap left from not being available.

Vaughan and Keegan have had serious injuries in the last 12 months. The pre-30's lads have had huge Championship mileage the last 8 years.

If we make the Super 8's through the front door (not a given), We will then have 3 weeks out in a month with an aged and battle weary team. Less games is what Mayo need.

If we make the AI final we will be 2 years older than the last time we were there. Yes 2 years older!

Dublin's squad is getting younger and fresher.

And finally the last hindrance. All these guys know the journey ahead of them. They know what has to be done to get to an All Ireland final - It's a long journey and there has to been no reward at the end for any of this squad. You might think you are ready for one more big push but really you can be in denial of where you really are as a player and a squad.

(I hope I'm wrong.)

It will 4 years since Horan left when the next campaign starts. The transition after Horan left was not handled well and there has been a dysfunctional feel about the years since.
Again after Rochford there are 'issues' about what is happening next.
Solan dropping out raises questions. I've heard he has also cashed in his chips with the U20 gig. That might turn out to be a load of bollocks of course.
I know of at least one of the older hands who has not decided about going at it again. Like you Bunker, I would not be overly hopeful.
We need a new midfield for a start. Seamie, Tom P. and Big Bird are yesterday's men.


I wouldnt be as pessimistic as some on here about our chances next year.If Horan gets the job i dont think anyone will step away but bar maybe Clarke and Higgins i dont think any of the older players are starters anymore.Higgins may also have to settle for a role as impact sub.With no retirements Clarke will be in goal.Our back 6 will be Barrett Harrisson O Donoghue Keegan Coen Durcan.Diarmuid at midfield.Aido Mc Loughlin Cillian and Doherty are all likely to start in the forwards so we need to find a midfielder and some forwards.Boyle Higgins Seamus O Se and of course Andy as impact subs and its not looking to shabby.IMO Doherty needs to be played in the Andy role at ff with Cillian pulling the strings from cf.Who the forwards are is anyones guess but i would like to see Naughton James Carr and Reape given a proper chance.

How did this superb team lose to Kildare this year but will be expected to compete for an AI with a year more on the clock?

Keegan and Vaughan not match fit after serious injuries.
Our  first choice midfield gone.
Newbridge or nowhere galvanised a very good Kildare team.
The hottest weather in 30 years took a toll on a lot of our players.

As an aside you have serious interest in Mayo syferus.Was it always this way or is only since we sent ye back to the stone age with a 20 something point mauling in Croke park?????

Unless they’ve got the championship moved the old men are likely to have or deal with hot weather in summer 2019 too..
Ya because Ireland is noted for having such great summers  :-[
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: bucko on October 01, 2018, 07:46:18 PM
A lot of Mayo lads living in a fantasy world here. The Gig is up for most of our 2006 AI under 21's in the squad. They are now 32-34 years old. Andy has to be 36 next year.
Parson's injury is very serious and talk of a 2019 return is bordering on crazy.  He is one of our biggest losses and there is a Domino effect filling up the gap left from not being available.

Vaughan and Keegan have had serious injuries in the last 12 months. The pre-30's lads have had huge Championship mileage the last 8 years.

If we make the Super 8's through the front door (not a given), We will then have 3 weeks out in a month with an aged and battle weary team. Less games is what Mayo need.

If we make the AI final we will be 2 years older than the last time we were there. Yes 2 years older!

Dublin's squad is getting younger and fresher.

And finally the last hindrance. All these guys know the journey ahead of them. They know what has to be done to get to an All Ireland final - It's a long journey and there has to been no reward at the end for any of this squad. You might think you are ready for one more big push but really you can be in denial of where you really are as a player and a squad.

(I hope I'm wrong.)

It will 4 years since Horan left when the next campaign starts. The transition after Horan left was not handled well and there has been a dysfunctional feel about the years since.
Again after Rochford there are 'issues' about what is happening next.
Solan dropping out raises questions. I've heard he has also cashed in his chips with the U20 gig. That might turn out to be a load of bollocks of course.
I know of at least one of the older hands who has not decided about going at it again. Like you Bunker, I would not be overly hopeful.
We need a new midfield for a start. Seamie, Tom P. and Big Bird are yesterday's men.


I wouldnt be as pessimistic as some on here about our chances next year.If Horan gets the job i dont think anyone will step away but bar maybe Clarke and Higgins i dont think any of the older players are starters anymore.Higgins may also have to settle for a role as impact sub.With no retirements Clarke will be in goal.Our back 6 will be Barrett Harrisson O Donoghue Keegan Coen Durcan.Diarmuid at midfield.Aido Mc Loughlin Cillian and Doherty are all likely to start in the forwards so we need to find a midfielder and some forwards.Boyle Higgins Seamus O Se and of course Andy as impact subs and its not looking to shabby.IMO Doherty needs to be played in the Andy role at ff with Cillian pulling the strings from cf.Who the forwards are is anyones guess but i would like to see Naughton James Carr and Reape given a proper chance.

How did this superb team lose to Kildare this year but will be expected to compete for an AI with a year more on the clock?

Keegan and Vaughan not match fit after serious injuries.
Our  first choice midfield gone.
Newbridge or nowhere galvanised a very good Kildare team.
The hottest weather in 30 years took a toll on a lot of our players.

As an aside you have serious interest in Mayo syferus.Was it always this way or is only since we sent ye back to the stone age with a 20 something point mauling in Croke park?????

Unless they’ve got the championship moved the old men are likely to have or deal with hot weather in summer 2019 too..
Didn’t realise we had an entire squad in their mid to late thirties🤔
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on October 01, 2018, 10:42:23 PM

Age is not a factor. Injuries are obviously.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: dublin7 on October 02, 2018, 07:47:25 AM

Age is not a factor. Injuries are obviously.

Are you serious??? Of course age is a factor. Why do you think mayo struggled towards the end of the kildare game while kildare just kept going.

Do you think it's just an incredible coincidence players decide to retire in almost all physical sports in their early/mid 30's
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on October 02, 2018, 10:19:50 AM

Age is not a factor. Injuries are obviously.

Are you serious??? Of course age is a factor. Why do you think mayo struggled towards the end of the kildare game while kildare just kept going.

Do you think it's just an incredible coincidence players decide to retire in almost all physical sports in their early/mid 30's

Calm down man , you'll give yourself a heart attack. It's okay the male footballing population of Mayo has not decreased . When I started watching mayo , Willie Joe padden , tj kilgallon, Liam McHale were all replaced , and we won Connacht titles again . James nallen  ,Ciaran Mac etc were also replaced and again we win Connacht titles again and had victories in croker too. Colm Boyle , Keith Higgins, seamie and the rest of 06 21s etc will also be replaced by fine footballers and we will win Connacht titles again and even have the odd victory in croke   . Honestly no need to panic Mayo will always produce footballers capable of competing at the top level , it's a sure bet . No panic bud
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 02, 2018, 10:36:19 AM
For the love of Christ could we all calm down  ;D
Maybe we are worse than we think. Barring the mother and father of all upsets, we'll at worst enter the backdoor in round 2. A favourable draw may see us in Connacht final territory.

One game at a time sweet Jesus.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: dublin7 on October 02, 2018, 11:59:32 AM

Age is not a factor. Injuries are obviously.

Are you serious??? Of course age is a factor. Why do you think mayo struggled towards the end of the kildare game while kildare just kept going.

Do you think it's just an incredible coincidence players decide to retire in almost all physical sports in their early/mid 30's

Calm down man , you'll give yourself a heart attack. It's okay the male footballing population of Mayo has not decreased . When I started watching mayo , Willie Joe padden , tj kilgallon, Liam McHale were all replaced , and we won Connacht titles again . James nallen  ,Ciaran Mac etc were also replaced and again we win Connacht titles again and had victories in croker too. Colm Boyle , Keith Higgins, seamie and the rest of 06 21s etc will also be replaced by fine footballers and we will win Connacht titles again and even have the odd victory in croke   . Honestly no need to panic Mayo will always produce footballers capable of competing at the top level , it's a sure bet . No panic bud

It's not panic, it's the idea someone could honestly believe age is not not a factor in sports. If only life worked that way. No one would retire until they were in their 50s
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: iorras on October 02, 2018, 02:16:01 PM
I took it that he means age is not a factor in Mayo doing well or not; as in we have enough good quality footballers available (some of them not household names yet) for James Horan to have a competitive team next season. There is plenty of life in the "older" lads as well, some of whom while seemingly around forever are still only late 20s.
Having said that, Andy Moran should have retired "at his age" but won an extra all start and player of the year award when he was supposed to be on the rocking chair.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: From the Bunker on October 02, 2018, 02:43:09 PM

Age is not a factor. Injuries are obviously.

Are you serious??? Of course age is a factor. Why do you think mayo struggled towards the end of the kildare game while kildare just kept going.

Do you think it's just an incredible coincidence players decide to retire in almost all physical sports in their early/mid 30's

Calm down man , you'll give yourself a heart attack. It's okay the male footballing population of Mayo has not decreased . When I started watching mayo , Willie Joe padden , tj kilgallon, Liam McHale were all replaced , and we won Connacht titles again . James nallen  ,Ciaran Mac etc were also replaced and again we win Connacht titles again and had victories in croker too. Colm Boyle , Keith Higgins, seamie and the rest of 06 21s etc will also be replaced by fine footballers and we will win Connacht titles again and even have the odd victory in croke   . Honestly no need to panic Mayo will always produce footballers capable of competing at the top level , it's a sure bet . No panic bud

This is not about winning Connacht titles! We are not in the 60's or 70's anymore. Do you think that players like Boyle, Higgins and Seamie will be replaced just like that?

I'm sure Tyrone and Galway thought the same in the 00's when their golden generation began to fade.

The bench mark is Dublin and we are falling behind more and more every year.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on October 02, 2018, 05:04:54 PM

Age is not a factor. Injuries are obviously.

Are you serious??? Of course age is a factor. Why do you think mayo struggled towards the end of the kildare game while kildare just kept going.

Do you think it's just an incredible coincidence players decide to retire in almost all physical sports in their early/mid 30's

Calm down man , you'll give yourself a heart attack. It's okay the male footballing population of Mayo has not decreased . When I started watching mayo , Willie Joe padden , tj kilgallon, Liam McHale were all replaced , and we won Connacht titles again . James nallen  ,Ciaran Mac etc were also replaced and again we win Connacht titles again and had victories in croker too. Colm Boyle , Keith Higgins, seamie and the rest of 06 21s etc will also be replaced by fine footballers and we will win Connacht titles again and even have the odd victory in croke   . Honestly no need to panic Mayo will always produce footballers capable of competing at the top level , it's a sure bet . No panic bud

This is not about winning Connacht titles! We are not in the 60's or 70's anymore. Do you think that players like Boyle, Higgins and Seamie will be replaced just like that?

I'm sure Tyrone and Galway thought the same in the 00's when their golden generation began to fade.

The bench mark is Dublin and we are falling behind more and more every year.

Boyler ...already replaced . Paddy Durcan

Higgins . . Replaced by Harrison already , with Eoin o Donohue coming in for Barrett.

Midfield is an issue I'll give you that , we need two to go along with aido . To be moving forward we need that to start moving along in this year's league.

I'm not saying we will be as good in 2019 as we were up to last year . What I am saying though it's not impossible either and the transition is not as dramatic as we are led to believe . Diarmuuid , Paddy Durcan, Brendan Harrison , Eoin o donoghue , Conor loftus are all new players to the team that started out in 2011. Mayo are not as stupid as people make out , there are some very good football men involved in development in mayo ,it's just not as publicised as you'd think it would be.

I'm very confident we will be a force next year .
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on October 02, 2018, 05:39:32 PM
Higgins is so replaceable Rochford had to beg him to come back after spending the spring with the hurlers and immediately started. Stop lying through your teeth.

Also the idea that Paddy Durcan is half the defender Colm Boyle was at his best is laughable. Good on the front foot, arm flailing liability when asked to defend.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: twohands!!! on October 02, 2018, 06:21:25 PM

Age is not a factor. Injuries are obviously.

Injuries are affected by age in terms of frequency, severity and recovery time.

If you have an older squad, they are likelier to pick up injuries, the injuries are likely to be more severe and recovery is likely to take longer.

This is backed up by all the sports science data.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on October 02, 2018, 08:53:00 PM
You are of the opinion Paddy is not half the defender Colm Boyle was at his peak , I have a different opinion and happen to think Paddy will be better .
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: MayoBuck on October 02, 2018, 08:53:36 PM
Also the idea that Paddy Durcan is half the defender Colm Boyle was at his best is laughable. Good on the front foot, arm flailing liability when asked to defend.

Where are you getting that from?! Paddy is an excellent man marker and is usually matched against one of the best opposition forwards.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on October 02, 2018, 08:59:46 PM
Also the idea that Paddy Durcan is half the defender Colm Boyle was at his best is laughable. Good on the front foot, arm flailing liability when asked to defend.

Where are you getting that from?! Paddy is an excellent man marker and is usually matched against one of the best opposition forwards.

You’ve been watching a different Durcan to the rest of us. I think he’s very talented but he reminds me of a Roscommon back - lovely going forward, missing when ran at. Lots of time for him to learn but if you think in 2018 bribes close to being Colm Boyle at his best, no chance.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: MayoBuck on October 02, 2018, 09:20:40 PM
Also the idea that Paddy Durcan is half the defender Colm Boyle was at his best is laughable. Good on the front foot, arm flailing liability when asked to defend.

Where are you getting that from?! Paddy is an excellent man marker and is usually matched against one of the best opposition forwards.

You’ve been watching a different Durcan to the rest of us. I think he’s very talented but he reminds me of a Roscommon back - lovely going forward, missing when ran at. Lots of time for him to learn but if you think in 2018 bribes close to being Colm Boyle at his best, no chance.

Missing when ran at? When was this exactly?

He has marked the likes of Kevin McManamon and Paddy Andrews in the past and kept them scoreless. Even this year he was given the job of marking Shane Walsh and Michael Quinlivan which shows the regard he's held.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on October 02, 2018, 09:20:59 PM
Higgins is so replaceable Rochford had to beg him to come back after spending the spring with the hurlers and immediately started. Stop lying through your teeth.

Also the idea that Paddy Durcan is half the defender Colm Boyle was at his best is laughable. Good on the front foot, arm flailing liability when asked to defend.

When would you say Colm Boyle was at his best Syf? What were the particular qualities that cause you to rate him so highly over that span?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on October 02, 2018, 11:25:45 PM
Colm Boyle is no great shakes at man marking , not sure how you can throw that out as part of your argument , lost his man for the Galway goal this year is a prime example.

Can you give me some specifics where Paddy got caught out in his defensive duties.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: criostlinn on October 02, 2018, 11:43:56 PM
Im just gonna throw this in here. A lot of us have this clown on ignore but when people keep quoting and answering the gobshite it makes the ignore button useless. Will ye please for the sake of this board just ignore the idiot
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 03, 2018, 12:06:25 AM
Im just gonna throw this in here. A lot of us have this clown on ignore but when people keep quoting and answering the gobshite it makes the ignore button useless. Will ye please for the sake of this board just ignore the idiot
What he said
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on October 04, 2018, 10:26:39 AM
Horan should be ratified tonight , expect it will be announced tomorrow morning . No ideawho is on his backroom team. Hope ta f**k Barry Solan stays on anyway
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: iorras on October 04, 2018, 10:39:19 AM
Im just gonna throw this in here. A lot of us have this clown on ignore but when people keep quoting and answering the gobshite it makes the ignore button useless. Will ye please for the sake of this board just ignore the idiot
Good idea, done
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Geoff Tipps on October 04, 2018, 10:54:04 AM
Horan should be ratified tonight , expect it will be announced tomorrow morning . No ideawho is on his backroom team. Hope ta f**k Barry Solan stays on anyway

Trainer: Daniel Forde
S & C  : Conor Finn
Physio : John Courell
Selctors : TBC

(as per whatsapp rumour doing the rounds)
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on October 04, 2018, 11:29:57 AM
Who is Conor Finn , is he an aghamore man ?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Geoff Tipps on October 04, 2018, 11:31:57 AM
Who is Conor Finn , is he an aghamore man ?

No, he's from Claremorris.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 04, 2018, 01:49:37 PM
About Conor Finn here http://www.mayonews.ie/features/32110-a-day-in-the-life-conor-finn
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Post by: larryin89 on October 04, 2018, 05:53:42 PM
Ciaran Mac , we are back.
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Post by: Manning18 on October 04, 2018, 06:05:58 PM
Ciaran Mac , we are back.

Yet another indication that this all seems a bit of a circus this time round
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Post by: From the Bunker on October 04, 2018, 06:16:11 PM
Ciaran Mac , we are back.

Yet another indication that this all seems a bit of a circus this time round

Ah, Season tickets have to be sold for entrap supporters to attend super 8 games!
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Post by: Rossfan on October 04, 2018, 06:32:40 PM
Ciaran Mac , we are back.

Yet another indication that this all seems a bit of a circus this time round

Ah, Season tickets have to be sold for entrap supporters to attend super 8 games!
Sickening Rhubarb arrogance  >:(
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Post by: larryin89 on October 04, 2018, 06:45:55 PM
Ciaran Mac , we are back.

Yet another indication that this all seems a bit of a circus this time round

So a former county Star who has been involved with development squads the last while makes the step up to senior set up and it's a circus.
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Post by: From the Bunker on October 04, 2018, 08:01:03 PM
Ciaran Mac , we are back.

Yet another indication that this all seems a bit of a circus this time round

Ah, Season tickets have to be sold for entrap supporters to attend super 8 games!
Sickening Rhubarb arrogance  >:(

Getting to the Super 8 is only good in name as you well know RossFan!
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Post by: Cunny Funt on October 04, 2018, 09:22:09 PM
 James Horan was ratified for a 4 year term as manager of the Mayo Senior Football team tonight, along with his management team of Daniel Forde, Martin Barrett & James Burke the latter will train the Dublin based players.
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Post by: Manning18 on October 04, 2018, 09:33:10 PM
Ciaran Mac , we are back.

Yet another indication that this all seems a bit of a circus this time round

So a former county Star who has been involved with development squads the last while makes the step up to senior set up and it's a circus.

Development squads? That's the best of his credentials? Would there not be others ever so slightly more deserving? From what I've heard from Mayo fans over the years there's plenty of other reasons also why you wouldn't have him around

In 2010/11 Horan was a unflashy former player who sought to make a county that was so oft' a running joke into a professional well run outfit. He achieved that without fuss. This time around has had a sideshow about it from the moment Rochford was dumped on in that CB meeting and how he was treated thereafter.

Horan, now with a media profile (one that he cares about so much that he left midway during a major championship match of the hurling side he so publicly worked with),  decided for some theatrics regarding his interest for the job, declaring his intention not to put his name forward on national radio and TV. This allowed for the "please james" outswell he knew would come to massage his ego once the CB and fan first choice JMCG would obviously say no. Waits until the very last moment to declare to draw out the drama. Did he get his victim in the CB in the end?

Solan, who looked a fine candidate, pulls out, clearly annoyed with the process that saw people turning up to the wrong house in search of him. Will he be lost to Mayo in the future? One final hoopla for the media after months of fun with the huge name selctor on the ticket.
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Post by: larryin89 on October 04, 2018, 09:36:30 PM
No need now to be getting your knickers in a twist Manning he's not on the ticket after all .
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Post by: sid waddell on October 04, 2018, 09:43:44 PM
Hopefully exciting times ahead for Mayo next year. The game badly needs them back challenging Dublin to the limit, especially given the threshold of history that Dublin are now perched upon.

You just never know with Mayo football - it's a glorious madness and this team might just still have another kick in them yet.

Their rivalry with Dublin has defined this decade and it would be very appropriate to bookend that decade with another final clash, with history at stake either way.

They say never go back - "they" are wrong, because Horan is young enough, fresh enough, motivated enough and knowledgeable enough to give the Mayo job another serious go, unlike the majority of managers who "go back" when they're past their best.


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Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 04, 2018, 10:09:55 PM
Hopefully exciting times ahead for Mayo next year. The game badly needs them back challenging Dublin to the limit, especially given the threshold of history that Dublin are now perched upon.

You just never know with Mayo football - it's a glorious madness and this team might just still have another kick in them yet.

Their rivalry with Dublin has defined this decade and it would be very appropriate to bookend that decade with another final clash, with history at stake either way.

Jaysus pass the sick bag.
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Post by: criostlinn on October 04, 2018, 10:51:34 PM
Nice to see some of them hidings that James Horans team dished out to Galway in his last spell still rankles. More of them would do nicely.
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Post by: From the Bunker on October 04, 2018, 11:07:19 PM
Hopefully exciting times ahead for Mayo next year. The game badly needs them back challenging Dublin to the limit, especially given the threshold of history that Dublin are now perched upon.

You just never know with Mayo football - it's a glorious madness and this team might just still have another kick in them yet.

Their rivalry with Dublin has defined this decade and it would be very appropriate to bookend that decade with another final clash, with history at stake either way.

Jaysus pass the sick bag.

+1

Dubs died of boredom this year! They'll be even more bored next year as this Mayo team are done!
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Post by: Captain Obvious on October 04, 2018, 11:12:01 PM
Hopefully exciting times ahead for Mayo next year. The game badly needs them back challenging Dublin to the limit, especially given the threshold of history that Dublin are now perched upon.

You just never know with Mayo football - it's a glorious madness and this team might just still have another kick in them yet.

Their rivalry with Dublin has defined this decade and it would be very appropriate to bookend that decade with another final clash, with history at stake either way.

Jaysus pass the sick bag.

+1

Dubs died of boredom this year! They'll be even more bored next year as this Mayo team are done!

Not done but Mayo are in a transitional period and Horan is brought back for the rebuilding to go as smoothly as possible.
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Post by: Aaron Boone on October 04, 2018, 11:13:06 PM
All codding aside, this is the last piece of the jigsaw for Mayo 2019 winning  national honours.
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Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 04, 2018, 11:13:55 PM
Hopefully exciting times ahead for Mayo next year. The game badly needs them back challenging Dublin to the limit, especially given the threshold of history that Dublin are now perched upon.

You just never know with Mayo football - it's a glorious madness and this team might just still have another kick in them yet.

Their rivalry with Dublin has defined this decade and it would be very appropriate to bookend that decade with another final clash, with history at stake either way.

Jaysus pass the sick bag.

+1

Dubs died of boredom this year! They'll be even more bored next year as this Mayo team are done!

Not Mayo's fault at all but there is so much sentimental twee old guff written and spoken about them in the media it sets my radar off at this stage. I imagine many Mayo people are even sick of it.
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Post by: Syferus on October 04, 2018, 11:19:16 PM
Hopefully exciting times ahead for Mayo next year. The game badly needs them back challenging Dublin to the limit, especially given the threshold of history that Dublin are now perched upon.

You just never know with Mayo football - it's a glorious madness and this team might just still have another kick in them yet.

Their rivalry with Dublin has defined this decade and it would be very appropriate to bookend that decade with another final clash, with history at stake either way.

Jaysus pass the sick bag.

+1

Dubs died of boredom this year! They'll be even more bored next year as this Mayo team are done!

Not Mayo's fault at all but there is so much sentimental twee old guff written and spoken about them in the media it sets my radar off at this stage. I imagine many Mayo people are even sick of it.

Take a look at Willie Joe’s army and your might reconsider that last part.
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Post by: Cunny Funt on October 04, 2018, 11:24:11 PM
All codding aside, this is the last piece of the jigsaw for Mayo 2019 winning  national honours.

Yeah Mayo might win the Div one league title in 2019 and it would be their first national title for 18 years.
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Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 04, 2018, 11:28:40 PM
As an aside would this be a less expensive backroom team for Mayo this time around? There are no big name coaches travelling from other parts of the country unless someone else is added. Seems to be an all local package.
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Post by: larryin89 on October 04, 2018, 11:44:11 PM
As an aside would this be a less expensive backroom team for Mayo this time around? There are no big name coaches travelling from other parts of the country unless someone else is added. Seems to be an all local package.

Except Burke , he is based in Dublin like half our squad though, so he'll be taking them bucks for a few laps during the  winter weeks.

Horan signed a secret contract with his  sugar daddy from Westport , guaranteed Sam Maguire within the four year period , retention of 20% of monies will be kept by the Westport person to be given to Horan if Sam is delivered .
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Post by: Syferus on October 05, 2018, 12:20:22 AM
As an aside would this be a less expensive backroom team for Mayo this time around? There are no big name coaches travelling from other parts of the country unless someone else is added. Seems to be an all local package.

Except Burke , he is based in Dublin like half our squad though, so he'll be taking them bucks for a few laps during the  winter weeks.

Horan signed a secret contract with his  sugar daddy from Westport , guaranteed Sam Maguire within the four year period , retention of 20% of monies will be kept by the Westport person to be given to Horan if Sam is delivered .

I know it’s the right season to be spreading manure but c’mon.
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Post by: Manning18 on October 05, 2018, 12:23:04 AM
Hopefully exciting times ahead for Mayo next year. The game badly needs them back challenging Dublin to the limit, especially given the threshold of history that Dublin are now perched upon.

You just never know with Mayo football - it's a glorious madness and this team might just still have another kick in them yet.

Their rivalry with Dublin has defined this decade and it would be very appropriate to bookend that decade with another final clash, with history at stake either way.

Jaysus pass the sick bag.

+1

Dubs died of boredom this year! They'll be even more bored next year as this Mayo team are done!

Not Mayo's fault at all but there is so much sentimental twee old guff written and spoken about them in the media it sets my radar off at this stage. I imagine many Mayo people are even sick of it.

Take a look at Willie Joe’s army and your might reconsider that last part.

"Best Day Ever". I had a good laugh at that one after a quick scroll through. You'd have to wonder about some of these peoples lives
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Post by: Never beat the deeler on October 05, 2018, 12:30:35 AM
Hopefully exciting times ahead for Mayo next year. The game badly needs them back challenging Dublin to the limit, especially given the threshold of history that Dublin are now perched upon.

You just never know with Mayo football - it's a glorious madness and this team might just still have another kick in them yet.

Their rivalry with Dublin has defined this decade and it would be very appropriate to bookend that decade with another final clash, with history at stake either way.

Jaysus pass the sick bag.

+1

Dubs died of boredom this year! They'll be even more bored next year as this Mayo team are done!

Not Mayo's fault at all but there is so much sentimental twee old guff written and spoken about them in the media it sets my radar off at this stage. I imagine many Mayo people are even sick of it.

Take a look at Willie Joe’s army and your might reconsider that last part.

"Best Day Ever". I had a good laugh at that one after a quick scroll through. You'd have to wonder about some of these peoples lives

tbf I'd be more worried about people from neighbouring counties that spend time trawling through one website so they can bitch about it on another website
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Post by: Syferus on October 05, 2018, 12:33:15 AM
Hopefully exciting times ahead for Mayo next year. The game badly needs them back challenging Dublin to the limit, especially given the threshold of history that Dublin are now perched upon.

You just never know with Mayo football - it's a glorious madness and this team might just still have another kick in them yet.

Their rivalry with Dublin has defined this decade and it would be very appropriate to bookend that decade with another final clash, with history at stake either way.

Jaysus pass the sick bag.

+1

Dubs died of boredom this year! They'll be even more bored next year as this Mayo team are done!

Not Mayo's fault at all but there is so much sentimental twee old guff written and spoken about them in the media it sets my radar off at this stage. I imagine many Mayo people are even sick of it.

Take a look at Willie Joe’s army and your might reconsider that last part.

"Best Day Ever". I had a good laugh at that one after a quick scroll through. You'd have to wonder about some of these peoples lives

tbf I'd be more worried about people from neighbouring counties that spend time trawling through one website so they can bitch about it on another website

The right to free speech isn’t the right to be free from criticism.
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Post by: moysider on October 05, 2018, 01:05:44 AM
As an aside would this be a less expensive backroom team for Mayo this time around? There are no big name coaches travelling from other parts of the country unless someone else is added. Seems to be an all local package.

True. It is a local package. Cheap? Less expensive? I dunno?
 
Horan's appointment means that sugar daddies will come on board and put money in. Apparently there would have been more bobs available for Jim McG., but that was never a runner.  Sometimes, what appears to be a cheap appointment turns out more expensive. Say, Mayo appoints a 'nobody' as manager? The 'sugar daddies' walk away. Simple as. The cheap appointment becomes very expensive.

Apparently Rochford was no longer going to be bankrolled and that was that for him. It's simple really. He who pays the piper calls .....
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Post by: Manning18 on October 05, 2018, 01:18:39 AM
Hopefully exciting times ahead for Mayo next year. The game badly needs them back challenging Dublin to the limit, especially given the threshold of history that Dublin are now perched upon.

You just never know with Mayo football - it's a glorious madness and this team might just still have another kick in them yet.

Their rivalry with Dublin has defined this decade and it would be very appropriate to bookend that decade with another final clash, with history at stake either way.

Jaysus pass the sick bag.

+1

Dubs died of boredom this year! They'll be even more bored next year as this Mayo team are done!

Not Mayo's fault at all but there is so much sentimental twee old guff written and spoken about them in the media it sets my radar off at this stage. I imagine many Mayo people are even sick of it.

Take a look at Willie Joe’s army and your might reconsider that last part.

"Best Day Ever". I had a good laugh at that one after a quick scroll through. You'd have to wonder about some of these peoples lives

tbf I'd be more worried about people from neighbouring counties that spend time trawling through one website so they can bitch about it on another website

Are you upset over it? It takes 30 seconds to scroll through comments after them being mentioned as funny on here. The place is well known as a source of comedy across all counties, it's only natural to have a glance. It's the GAA equivalent of Red & White Kop. Someone could probably spawn a parody twitter account off the comments
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Post by: Farrandeelin on October 05, 2018, 07:38:51 AM
I know. I got the door after a few negative comments a few years back. Thank God this is a more open forum where pessimism is actually allowed or I'd be banished forever.
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Post by: TheGreatest on October 05, 2018, 09:26:56 AM
James Horan was ratified for a 4 year term as manager of the Mayo Senior Football team tonight, along with his management team of Daniel Forde, Martin Barrett & James Burke the latter will train the Dublin based players.

Great news !!!!
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Post by: Mac2 on October 05, 2018, 09:37:39 AM
I know. I got the door after a few negative comments a few years back. Thank God this is a more open forum where pessimism is actually allowed or I'd be banished forever.
Did you get the routine lecture from yer man banishing you from his noble site for not meeting his high standards, bet you criticized Ger Caff.
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Post by: Farrandeelin on October 05, 2018, 11:34:53 AM
I know. I got the door after a few negative comments a few years back. Thank God this is a more open forum where pessimism is actually allowed or I'd be banished forever.
Did you get the routine lecture from yer man banishing you from his noble site for not meeting his high standards, bet you criticized Ger Caff.
No it wasn't Caff. I just went on a bit of a rant a few years ago. ;D
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Post by: joemamas on October 05, 2018, 01:49:10 PM
I know. I got the door after a few negative comments a few years back. Thank God this is a more open forum where pessimism is actually allowed or I'd be banished forever.
Did you get the routine lecture from yer man banishing you from his noble site for not meeting his high standards, bet you criticized Ger Caff.
No it wasn't Caff. I just went on a bit of a rant a few years ago. ;D


 I met him once, he is a decent fella.
TBH, the are a lot of loons on that blog and some of the comments are just plain daft. It seems like a bunch of them left Hogan stand for his blog.
If the bloggers were "middle of the road" as most on here, it would be more readable.
I go on now and again, I wish he would update it, so that you would not have to scroll through blogs of shite to get one or two interesting points of view.

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Post by: Lar Naparka on October 05, 2018, 04:16:20 PM
I know. I got the door after a few negative comments a few years back. Thank God this is a more open forum where pessimism is actually allowed or I'd be banished forever.
Did you get the routine lecture from yer man banishing you from his noble site for not meeting his high standards, bet you criticized Ger Caff.
Well, I had a run in with him once and I wound up telling him that he could supposit his site for all I cared. ;D
 He seems to have mellowed a bit but back when he was getting his site off the ground, he had an ego the size of Croke Park.
Just by chance, I decided to have a look at his site shortly after he put it up. I hadn't been there before so I was curious to find out what the blog was all about.
 I got one helluva surprise to find that the centrepiece was devoted to gaaboard.com and the activites of some of the Mayo posters who had the temerity to criticise what he had said about some county player or other.
He let the world know that he was on holidays just then but when he returned he was going to sort the whole effin' lot of us out. (I am being serious, btw.)
We were all sculking behind usernames on an obscure internet formum but, if any of us were brave enough, we should post to his site and debate the issue face to him. I just couldn't resist the temptation to wind him up a bit further and I had no problem at all in doing that.
I wound up telling him where he could shove his site and his ego also.
I'm afraid he pulled my last post.
Since then, he seems to hace copped on a lot and I think he is quite a good analyst and, if you ignore the loolas who add their comments, I'd have little to complain about. The Results Archive in particular is an invaluable reference source and, all in all, I'd recommend his iste to any genuine Mayo fan.
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Post by: Cunny Funt on October 05, 2018, 04:58:13 PM
I know. I got the door after a few negative comments a few years back. Thank God this is a more open forum where pessimism is actually allowed or I'd be banished forever.
Did you get the routine lecture from yer man banishing you from his noble site for not meeting his high standards, bet you criticized Ger Caff.
Well, I had a run in with him once and I wound up telling him that he could supposit his site for all I cared. ;D
 He seems to have mellowed a bit but back when he was getting his site off the ground, he had an ego the size of Croke Park.
Just by chance, I decided to have a look at his site shortly after he put it up. I hadn't been there before so I was curious to find out what the blog was all about.
 I got one helluva surprise to find that the centrepiece was devoted to gaaboard.com and the activites of some of the Mayo posters who had the temerity to criticise what he had said about some county player or other.
He let the world know that he was on holidays just then but when he returned he was going to sort the whole effin' lot of us out. (I am being serious, btw.)
We were all sculking behind usernames on an obscure internet formum but, if any of us were brave enough, we should post to his site and debate the issue face to him. I just couldn't resist the temptation to wind him up a bit further and I had no problem at all in doing that.
I wound up telling him where he could shove his site and his ego also.
I'm afraid he pulled my last post.
Since then, he seems to hace copped on a lot and I think he is quite a good analyst and, if you ignore the loolas who add their comments, I'd have little to complain about. The Results Archive in particular is an invaluable reference source and, all in all, I'd recommend his iste to any genuine Mayo fan.

I think his ego has got to an all time high ever since he became the Mayo supporters voice on the Mayo News podcasts. The best part of his blog is his result archive a lot of work he put into that in fairness to him.
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Post by: Mac2 on October 05, 2018, 05:16:11 PM
I know. I got the door after a few negative comments a few years back. Thank God this is a more open forum where pessimism is actually allowed or I'd be banished forever.
Did you get the routine lecture from yer man banishing you from his noble site for not meeting his high standards, bet you criticized Ger Caff.
Well, I had a run in with him once and I wound up telling him that he could supposit his site for all I cared. ;D
 He seems to have mellowed a bit but back when he was getting his site off the ground, he had an ego the size of Croke Park.
Just by chance, I decided to have a look at his site shortly after he put it up. I hadn't been there before so I was curious to find out what the blog was all about.
 I got one helluva surprise to find that the centrepiece was devoted to gaaboard.com and the activites of some of the Mayo posters who had the temerity to criticise what he had said about some county player or other.
He let the world know that he was on holidays just then but when he returned he was going to sort the whole effin' lot of us out. (I am being serious, btw.)
We were all sculking behind usernames on an obscure internet formum but, if any of us were brave enough, we should post to his site and debate the issue face to him. I just couldn't resist the temptation to wind him up a bit further and I had no problem at all in doing that.
I wound up telling him where he could shove his site and his ego also.
I'm afraid he pulled my last post.
Since then, he seems to hace copped on a lot and I think he is quite a good analyst and, if you ignore the loolas who add their comments, I'd have little to complain about. The Results Archive in particular is an invaluable reference source and, all in all, I'd recommend his iste to any genuine Mayo fan.

I think his ego has got to an all time high ever since he became the Mayo supporters voice on the Mayo News podcasts. The best part of his blog is his result archive a lot of work he put into that in fairness to him.
Yeah I think he's got worse and Rob Murphy's his lapdog now.
It's the pontificating I can't stand, the attitude to the resignation rumour where no-one can comment till it comes via the fourth estate, such bull.
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Post by: Manning18 on October 07, 2018, 02:51:13 PM
Horan doing videos talking about Adventures, Quests and Odysseys. "Brand Mayo". Some amount of cringe. It's not the presidency he's taking over
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Post by: macdanger2 on October 07, 2018, 03:06:05 PM
Horan doing videos talking about Adventures, Quests and Odysseys. "Brand Mayo". Some amount of cringe. It's not the presidency he's taking over

He seems to have you rattled anyway  ;D ;D
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Post by: sans pessimism on October 07, 2018, 03:41:17 PM
 ;D ;D
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Post by: larryin89 on October 07, 2018, 04:09:38 PM
;D ;D

Hahaha
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Post by: Cunny Funt on October 07, 2018, 05:50:22 PM
The James Horan interview from yesterday. Sounds like everyone any good at club level will be looked at and he is very excited about his return to the Mayo senior management hot seat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsr2xT9RSII
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Post by: Farrandeelin on October 07, 2018, 08:37:14 PM
Horan doing videos talking about Adventures, Quests and Odysseys. "Brand Mayo". Some amount of cringe. It's not the presidency he's taking over

True, it's much, much more important than the presidency.
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Post by: From the Bunker on October 07, 2018, 10:38:31 PM
In fairness James Horan has learned the use of presentation skills and hype from Sky over the last couple of years.
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Post by: Maroon Manc on October 08, 2018, 01:38:12 PM
Do the Mayo posters expect Boyle & Seamie O'Shea to hang around another year?

The draw is on Thursday, nailed on Galway & Mayo will meet before a Connacht Final again.
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Post by: Lar Naparka on October 08, 2018, 02:02:52 PM
Do the Mayo posters expect Boyle & Seamie O'Shea to hang around another year?

The draw is on Thursday, nailed on Galway & Mayo will meet before a Connacht Final again.
A lot depends on what the players in question think. It's a long time since Mayo players weren't going flat out to late August at the very least and even up to the third Sunday in September. And the effort they had to put in was manic to put it mildly.
Now, with the extended break and the re-appearance of Horan, I'd say the mood among the players is pretty upbeat.
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Post by: highorlow on October 08, 2018, 02:07:33 PM
Quote
Do the Mayo posters expect Boyle & Seamie O'Shea to hang around another year?

Yes.

Seamie was floating between midfield and sweeper on Saturday and did well inside in the sweeper role. Maybe somewhere along the half back line is somewhere to put him. Boyle won't have a full game in him but should always start.

Matthew Ruane was very impressive in midfield on Saturday. A definite prospect for the senior team, imo.
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Post by: Cunny Funt on October 08, 2018, 03:14:46 PM
Do the Mayo posters expect Boyle & Seamie O'Shea to hang around another year?

The draw is on Thursday, nailed on Galway & Mayo will meet before a Connacht Final again.

I'd expect Galway v Mayo final next year with the returning Horan to do what Rochford couldn't. Beat Galway and win a Connacht title.
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Post by: From the Bunker on October 08, 2018, 03:59:37 PM
Do the Mayo posters expect Boyle & Seamie O'Shea to hang around another year?

The draw is on Thursday, nailed on Galway & Mayo will meet before a Connacht Final again.

I'd expect Galway v Mayo final next year with the returning Horan to do what Rochford couldn't. Beat Galway and win a Connacht title.

Based on?
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Post by: Cunny Funt on October 08, 2018, 04:03:17 PM
Do the Mayo posters expect Boyle & Seamie O'Shea to hang around another year?

The draw is on Thursday, nailed on Galway & Mayo will meet before a Connacht Final again.

I'd expect Galway v Mayo final next year with the returning Horan to do what Rochford couldn't. Beat Galway and win a Connacht title.

Based on?

On the return of the consistency competitive manager.
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Post by: Real Talk on October 08, 2018, 04:34:40 PM
Do the Mayo posters expect Boyle & Seamie O'Shea to hang around another year?

The draw is on Thursday, nailed on Galway & Mayo will meet before a Connacht Final again.
A lot depends on what the players in question think. It's a long time since Mayo players weren't going flat out to late August at the very least and even up to the third Sunday in September. And the effort they had to put in was manic to put it mildly.
Now, with the extended break and the re-appearance of Horan, I'd say the mood among the players is pretty upbeat.

Its also possible that some of them might have enjoyed life outside the commitment of County Football and call it a day
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on October 08, 2018, 04:36:04 PM
Do the Mayo posters expect Boyle & Seamie O'Shea to hang around another year?

The draw is on Thursday, nailed on Galway & Mayo will meet before a Connacht Final again.

I'd expect Galway v Mayo final next year with the returning Horan to do what Rochford couldn't. Beat Galway and win a Connacht title.

Based on?

On the return of the consistency competitive manager.

Horan was up against very bad Galway and Roscommon sides in Connacht during his first stint. A luxury that Rochford especially didn't have a few years later to be fair to him.

Timing can be huge in management and taking on a job at the right or wrong time.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: From the Bunker on October 08, 2018, 07:01:09 PM
I think he/we is/are in for a shock. It will be 4 and a half years since he's had a competitive game with the core of the group. It will take a couple of years S&C to get the young lads up and running. Saving money seems to be the short term agenda with local lads as his backroom team. No harm in that! If he lasts the four years he will see all the old gang retire or told to go.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Lar Naparka on October 08, 2018, 09:10:47 PM
Do the Mayo posters expect Boyle & Seamie O'Shea to hang around another year?

The draw is on Thursday, nailed on Galway & Mayo will meet before a Connacht Final again.
A lot depends on what the players in question think. It's a long time since Mayo players weren't going flat out to late August at the very least and even up to the third Sunday in September. And the effort they had to put in was manic to put it mildly.
Now, with the extended break and the re-appearance of Horan, I'd say the mood among the players is pretty upbeat.

Its also possible that some of them might have enjoyed life outside the commitment of County Football and call it a day
I think the fact that Horan is returning is very significant. Nobody knows the veterans on the team better than he does and you can be sure he contacted some of them before allowing his name to go forward. He has to see something there before he’d give up his pundit work with Sky and whatever newspaper articles he writes also.
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Post by: larryin89 on October 08, 2018, 11:07:16 PM
 David Clarke; Eoin O’Donoghue, Chris Barrett, Keith Higgins (0-1); Paddy Durcan, Colm Boyle, Stephen Coen; Seamus O’Shea, Tom Parsons (0-1); Kevin McLoughlin (0-2), Aidan O’Shea, Diarmuid O’Connor (0-1); Conor Loftus (0-3, frees), Jason Doherty, Andy Moran (0-2). Subs: Cillian O’Connor (0-2, one free) for Parsons (inj.), David Drake for Loftus, James Durcan for Doherty, Cian Hanley for Seamus O’Shea, Brendan Harrison for O’Donoghue, Donal Vaughan for Moran

How many out of those involved v Galway this year will not be able to cut it next year.

Barret , Higgins , Boyle , seamie and Andy but most likely well able to have an impact as panel members. 

We have  Brendan Harrison , caolan crowe and ger mcdonagh IMO for the fb line . We have Lambert and oisin mgloughlin ready to have a cut for next line up. We have James durcan flying at club level who already had a good taste in county team this year .With the likes of Ryan o Donohue, colm Moran and t Conroy from 20s this year about the place I just can't for the life of me understand all the pessimistic attitude .  Mayo will have a better side in two years time than the horan first era team . Have a feeling we will target Nestor cup for 2019 and succeed .
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Blowitupref on October 08, 2018, 11:36:21 PM
Of the panel James Horan left behind in 2014 had

Andy Moran,David Clarke aged 30
Keith Higgins 29
Colm Boyle 28
Seamus O Shea,Ger Cafferky,Chris Barrett 27
Tom Parsons 26
Donal Vaughan,Kevin McLoughlin 25
Jason Doherty,Aidan O Shea,Lee Keegan 24
Cillan O Connor 22


Add 5 years onto to ages for 2019 plus the high mileage on their legs and you see the panel Horan will have in 2019 will not be better or at the same level as 2014. Some good young players are coming through but the biggest challenging off all is trying to get as much of an impact out those young players in the years ahead as the likes of Higgins,Boyle and Moran etc have given in the business end of the championship 2011 to 2017.

What i think Horan will do in year one is to put more of the 2016 U21 team into the starting team so probably  S Cunniffe, S Akram,M Ruane will see plenty of game time during the NFL and if they stand out during the spring they will be given their senior championship debuts.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Manning18 on October 09, 2018, 12:11:57 PM
Horan doing videos talking about Adventures, Quests and Odysseys. "Brand Mayo". Some amount of cringe. It's not the presidency he's taking over

He seems to have you rattled anyway  ;D ;D

My eyes rattled from cringing?

"Brand Mayo". He's the manager of an average rural county's amateur football team, not the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. Quests and Odysseys is even stranger again. Perhaps he's a World of Warcraft fan
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: rosnarun on October 09, 2018, 12:15:46 PM
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Do the Mayo posters expect Boyle & Seamie O'Shea to hang around another year?

Yes.

Seamie was floating between midfield and sweeper on Saturday and did well inside in the sweeper role. Maybe somewhere along the half back line is somewhere to put him. Boyle won't have a full game in him but should always start.

Matthew Ruane was very impressive in midfield on Saturday. A definite prospect for the senior team, imo.
I think diarmuid will be a starting midfielder next year / he was phenomenal on Saturday and was the bug positive from newbridge he always looks tired but just never stops . his activity there can  really make a difference. love to see him partnered with aidan there
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: rosnarun on October 09, 2018, 12:18:51 PM
Horan doing videos talking about Adventures, Quests and Odysseys. "Brand Mayo". Some amount of cringe. It's not the presidency he's taking over

He seems to have you rattled anyway  ;D ;D

My eyes rattled from cringing?

"Brand Mayo". He's the manager of an average rural county's amateur football team, not the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. Quests and Odysseys is even stranger again. Perhaps he's a World of Warcraft fan
who are hugely popular and successful in fundraising allowing them to compete at the top level of football for the last decade from our impoverished county rather than whinge about dublin.
Welcome to footballs real world
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Manning18 on October 09, 2018, 12:26:15 PM
Horan doing videos talking about Adventures, Quests and Odysseys. "Brand Mayo". Some amount of cringe. It's not the presidency he's taking over

He seems to have you rattled anyway  ;D ;D

My eyes rattled from cringing?

"Brand Mayo". He's the manager of an average rural county's amateur football team, not the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. Quests and Odysseys is even stranger again. Perhaps he's a World of Warcraft fan
who are hugely popular and successful in fundraising allowing them to compete at the top level of football for the last decade from our impoverished county rather than whinge about dublin.
Welcome to footballs real world

Should he not be trying to extract less money from people in one of the countries more impoverished counties rather than more? Brand Mayo, sounds like a racket to take yet more from loyal fans. I do agree that Mayo's fundraising from far afield has been phenomenal from a county that wouldn't exactly be known for big businessmen abroad.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Mac2 on October 09, 2018, 01:20:27 PM
Horan doing videos talking about Adventures, Quests and Odysseys. "Brand Mayo". Some amount of cringe. It's not the presidency he's taking over

He seems to have you rattled anyway  ;D ;D

My eyes rattled from cringing?

"Brand Mayo". He's the manager of an average rural county's amateur football team, not the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. Quests and Odysseys is even stranger again. Perhaps he's a World of Warcraft fan
who are hugely popular and successful in fundraising allowing them to compete at the top level of football for the last decade from our impoverished county rather than whinge about dublin.
Welcome to footballs real world

Should he not be trying to extract less money from people in one of the countries more impoverished counties rather than more? Brand Mayo, sounds like a racket to take yet more from loyal fans. I do agree that Mayo's fundraising from far afield has been phenomenal from a county that wouldn't exactly be known for big businessmen abroad.
Did you actually listen to the interview? He was playing that stuff down, saying it was mythology.
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Post by: highorlow on October 09, 2018, 03:16:05 PM
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Should he not be trying to extract less money from people in one of the countries more impoverished counties rather than more? Brand Mayo, sounds like a racket to take yet more from loyal fans. I do agree that Mayo's fundraising from far afield has been phenomenal from a county that wouldn't exactly be known for big businessmen abroad.

Go back to the link and listen to the full interview. He says he doesn't buy any of the bullshit that the media and some others harp on about.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: iorras on October 09, 2018, 03:41:28 PM
Horan doing videos talking about Adventures, Quests and Odysseys. "Brand Mayo". Some amount of cringe. It's not the presidency he's taking over

He seems to have you rattled anyway  ;D ;D

My eyes rattled from cringing?

"Brand Mayo". He's the manager of an average rural county's amateur football team, not the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. Quests and Odysseys is even stranger again. Perhaps he's a World of Warcraft fan
who are hugely popular and successful in fundraising allowing them to compete at the top level of football for the last decade from our impoverished county rather than whinge about dublin.
Welcome to footballs real world

Should he not be trying to extract less money from people in one of the countries more impoverished counties rather than more? Brand Mayo, sounds like a racket to take yet more from loyal fans. I do agree that Mayo's fundraising from far afield has been phenomenal from a county that wouldn't exactly be known for big businessmen abroad.
Dont worry about us lad, we have plenty of big businessmen at  home and abroad. And by big businessmen I mean big as in the type with money not big as in fat lads who eat burgers. Not sure which you meant.
Another positive is that we werent found with our hands in the till like one of our neighbours!
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on October 09, 2018, 03:51:45 PM
Who cares what Mayo do at this stage

They ain’t winning the All-Ireland in the medium term and when casual John and Mary realise that the hole will fall out of the bandwagon
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: highorlow on October 09, 2018, 04:33:47 PM
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Who cares what Mayo do at this stage

 :D
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on October 09, 2018, 05:14:05 PM
Who cares what Mayo do at this stage

They ain’t winning the All-Ireland in the medium term and when casual John and Mary realise that the hole will fall out of the bandwagon

I spit me tae out between you and your comrade who thinks there are no big business men from Mayo . A million dollars is the target for new York and it will be hit . 

It's very entertaining seeing our neighbors all rattled and over nothing really , ye hardly fear an aging team like mayo , surely not , it's high time you boys beat Mayo in the championship , perfect opportunity this year if drawn to do something you've not done in 32 years .
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Manning18 on October 09, 2018, 05:27:23 PM
Horan doing videos talking about Adventures, Quests and Odysseys. "Brand Mayo". Some amount of cringe. It's not the presidency he's taking over

He seems to have you rattled anyway  ;D ;D

My eyes rattled from cringing?

"Brand Mayo". He's the manager of an average rural county's amateur football team, not the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. Quests and Odysseys is even stranger again. Perhaps he's a World of Warcraft fan
who are hugely popular and successful in fundraising allowing them to compete at the top level of football for the last decade from our impoverished county rather than whinge about dublin.
Welcome to footballs real world

Should he not be trying to extract less money from people in one of the countries more impoverished counties rather than more? Brand Mayo, sounds like a racket to take yet more from loyal fans. I do agree that Mayo's fundraising from far afield has been phenomenal from a county that wouldn't exactly be known for big businessmen abroad.
Dont worry about us lad, we have plenty of big businessmen at  home and abroad. And by big businessmen I mean big as in the type with money not big as in fat lads who eat burgers. Not sure which you meant.
Another positive is that we werent found with our hands in the till like one of our neighbours!

Not quite sure what the Supermacs dig is about. A family run business that give endless amounts of money to local charities and initiatives.

Mayo have the 4th lowest disposable income per person in Ireland and a similarly low GDP per person. I'm not particularly worried about it but perhaps you should be. https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/revealed-the-richest-and-poorest-counties-in-ireland-36636317.html
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on October 09, 2018, 05:32:53 PM
Who cares what Mayo do at this stage

They ain’t winning the All-Ireland in the medium term and when casual John and Mary realise that the hole will fall out of the bandwagon

I spit me tae out between you and your comrade who thinks there are no big business men from Mayo . A million dollars is the target for new York and it will be hit . 

It's very entertaining seeing our neighbors all rattled and over nothing really , ye hardly fear an aging team like mayo , surely not , it's high time you boys beat Mayo in the championship , perfect opportunity this year if drawn to do something you've not done in 32 years .

As usual your idea of what rattled looks like is at odds with reality.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: rosnarun on October 09, 2018, 06:03:30 PM
Horan doing videos talking about Adventures, Quests and Odysseys. "Brand Mayo". Some amount of cringe. It's not the presidency he's taking over

He seems to have you rattled anyway  ;D ;D

My eyes rattled from cringing?

"Brand Mayo". He's the manager of an average rural county's amateur football team, not the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. Quests and Odysseys is even stranger again. Perhaps he's a World of Warcraft fan
who are hugely popular and successful in fundraising allowing them to compete at the top level of football for the last decade from our impoverished county rather than whinge about dublin.
Welcome to footballs real world

Should he not be trying to extract less money from people in one of the countries more impoverished counties rather than more? Brand Mayo, sounds like a racket to take yet more from loyal fans. I do agree that Mayo's fundraising from far afield has been phenomenal from a county that wouldn't exactly be known for big businessmen abroad.
Dont worry about us lad, we have plenty of big businessmen at  home and abroad. And by big businessmen I mean big as in the type with money not big as in fat lads who eat burgers. Not sure which you meant.
Another positive is that we werent found with our hands in the till like one of our neighbours!

Not quite sure what the Supermacs dig is about. A family run business that give endless amounts of money to local charities and initiatives.

Mayo have the 4th lowest disposable income per person in Ireland and a similarly low GDP per person. I'm not particularly worried about it but perhaps you should be. https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/revealed-the-richest-and-poorest-counties-in-ireland-36636317.html
that is sad
but that is only the people who still live in mayo
for the thousand of the rest of us the Mayo team is one of the strongest links  after family we have to home  and a few fallow years would  change anything for us.
As an exiled Millionare  I will still be lobbing in the odd 100k here and there
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: thebackbar1 on October 10, 2018, 01:28:14 PM
Now that things have settled down, does anyone have close to full story why Roachford wasn't kept on ? did the county board want him out ? or did horan make it know that he was interested in coming back and they decided he was a better option going forward ?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on October 10, 2018, 01:28:53 PM
Who cares what Mayo do at this stage

They ain’t winning the All-Ireland in the medium term and when casual John and Mary realise that the hole will fall out of the bandwagon

I spit me tae out between you and your comrade who thinks there are no big business men from Mayo . A million dollars is the target for new York and it will be hit . 

It's very entertaining seeing our neighbors all rattled and over nothing really , ye hardly fear an aging team like mayo , surely not , it's high time you boys beat Mayo in the championship , perfect opportunity this year if drawn to do something you've not done in 32 years .

As usual your idea of what rattled looks like is at odds with reality.

I'm not sure what to think with you , on one hand you say "who cares about mayo " in the context of we are yesterday's men but yet you never stop on about Mayo .

On another note did you see the performance of D O Connor the weekend ? He's another man you don't rate hahaha
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Post by: larryin89 on October 10, 2018, 01:30:04 PM
Now that things have settled down, does anyone have close to full story why Roachford wasn't kept on ? did the county board want him out ? or did horan make it know that he was interested in coming back and they decided he was a better option going forward ?

He did a decent job with a poor last year , he's no longer mayo manager , nowt more to it
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Manning18 on October 10, 2018, 02:50:33 PM
Who cares what Mayo do at this stage

They ain’t winning the All-Ireland in the medium term and when casual John and Mary realise that the hole will fall out of the bandwagon

I spit me tae out between you and your comrade who thinks there are no big business men from Mayo . A million dollars is the target for new York and it will be hit .

I never said you didnt have business abroad. I said you wouldn't be known for it, in the way say Dublin, Kerry, Cork, Galway, Limerick, Wicklow or Kildare would. Thats a quite obvious result of social economic factors, the lack of top schools and no University. I said it's phenomenal how Mayo do fundraise abroad despite this, including a far higher percentage of successful expats than others. You don't have to find offense with everything
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Post by: rosnarun on October 11, 2018, 12:23:56 PM
Now that things have settled down, does anyone have close to full story why Roachford wasn't kept on ? did the county board want him out ? or did horan make it know that he was interested in coming back and they decided he was a better option going forward ?
I ddont think they really wanted to get Rid of him as long he way will to do the Chairman's bidding who seems to want to push his influence fard beyond the board room into the the location of trainers who the medics are and what style of play and who is on the Field . see his barley concealed barbs at buckley and McEntee and there is a a raher dubious movement going on at coaching level in the county / academy level called the 'MAYO WAY' based on some notion of how some old Farts see the tradition of mayo football ie. the glorious 52 to 89 era when  most of them grew up.
Horan should be able to manage him but if doesn't hang around too long I know the first place I'd look
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: macdanger2 on October 11, 2018, 03:36:25 PM
see his barley concealed barbs at buckley and McEntee

I noticed that one alright, it seemed unnecessary, McEntee and in particular Buckley gave great service to the county (paid obviously but that's part of the gig these days)
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on October 11, 2018, 03:45:35 PM
Now that things have settled down, does anyone have close to full story why Roachford wasn't kept on ? did the county board want him out ? or did horan make it know that he was interested in coming back and they decided he was a better option going forward ?
I ddont think they really wanted to get Rid of him as long he way will to do the Chairman's bidding who seems to want to push his influence fard beyond the board room into the the location of trainers who the medics are and what style of play and who is on the Field . see his barley concealed barbs at buckley and McEntee and there is a a raher dubious movement going on at coaching level in the county / academy level called the 'MAYO WAY' based on some notion of how some old Farts see the tradition of mayo football ie. the glorious 52 to 89 era when  most of them grew up.
Horan should be able to manage him but if doesn't hang around too long I know the first place I'd look

..his lack of success on the field?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 12, 2018, 11:32:59 AM
see his barley concealed barbs at buckley and McEntee and there is a a raher dubious movement going on at coaching level in the county / academy level called the 'MAYO WAY' based on some notion of how some old Farts see the tradition of mayo football ie. the glorious 52 to 89 era when  most of them grew up.
Horan should be able to manage him but if doesn't hang around too long I know the first place I'd look

This is such a backward sentiment its mind boggling.

If you look at any of the progressive soccer clubs in England they have a strategy for how the club as a whole should played and then they employ coaches who will follow that strategy, City being the most obvious example. Obviously they have bags load of cash so they can afford to do whatever they like but the principle is is so obvious it should be used throughout every GAA club in the country.

You have a manager who manages the U-12 team, he's like a kicking game, so they young lads are trained at that, lots of kicking drills. They move to U-14, different manager, he favours a running game, so lots of hand passing drills, U-16 lad has a different view on the game. Its a mess.

One club, one strategy. From the day you enter the club you learn how to play one style, it can be tweaked based on whatever is flavour of the month but the basic concept stays the same. It means when you get to senior you're ready to fit into the team. It takes a lot of getting rid of egos but it also means that its a lot easier to promote managers from within.
Ciaran Mac is heavily involved in this from what I hear with Mayo. This kind of strategy will really benefit the county long term
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: thebackbar1 on October 12, 2018, 02:48:55 PM
see his barley concealed barbs at buckley and McEntee and there is a a raher dubious movement going on at coaching level in the county / academy level called the 'MAYO WAY' based on some notion of how some old Farts see the tradition of mayo football ie. the glorious 52 to 89 era when  most of them grew up.
Horan should be able to manage him but if doesn't hang around too long I know the first place I'd look

This is such a backward sentiment its mind boggling.

If you look at any of the progressive soccer clubs in England they have a strategy for how the club as a whole should played and then they employ coaches who will follow that strategy, City being the most obvious example. Obviously they have bags load of cash so they can afford to do whatever they like but the principle is is so obvious it should be used throughout every GAA club in the country.

You have a manager who manages the U-12 team, he's like a kicking game, so they young lads are trained at that, lots of kicking drills. They move to U-14, different manager, he favours a running game, so lots of hand passing drills, U-16 lad has a different view on the game. Its a mess.

One club, one strategy. From the day you enter the club you learn how to play one style, it can be tweaked based on whatever is flavour of the month but the basic concept stays the same. It means when you get to senior you're ready to fit into the team. It takes a lot of getting rid of egos but it also means that its a lot easier to promote managers from within.
Ciaran Mac is heavily involved in this from what I hear with Mayo. This kind of strategy will really benefit the county long term

I've heard this approach mentioned before, it seems good but ...
It really takes getting rid of a lot of egos, is it worth the hassle ? ie if your u8s coach doesn't buy into the approach what do you do ?  sack him ? who tells him his approach is wrong and needs to change ?
how do you agree on the style your club adopts ? who makes the final decision ? 
If you had spent the last 15 years focusing on perfecting a running game using handpassing, how would you deal with the rule changes that prevent more than three hand passes ?

I think your soccer comparison is valid, but only as far as your u21/junior/senior teams should adopt the same approach, as players will be moving around all of those teams.

However at underage i think its best to focus on developing all of the skills
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 12, 2018, 03:35:34 PM
I’m not saying to ignore skill sets but as a general rule there should be a Mayo way and we should be training all teams in that.

As for the other questions
- who decides any strategy? If it was a company the CEO and board. So probably a group of experts, most likely exmayo footballers in this case. Ex-club footballers if it’s a club.
- absolutely it’s worth getting rid of the egos, 100%. A smart man will look at it and see how he can implement it but with his own stamp
- if the u-8 coach or the u-20 coach doesn’t do it then yes, out the door. People should be appointed on the basis that they buy into it

Again, a company sets a strategy and the staff follow it, this is the same.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: thebackbar1 on October 12, 2018, 05:00:08 PM
I’m not saying to ignore skill sets but as a general rule there should be a Mayo way and we should be training all teams in that.

As for the other questions
- who decides any strategy? If it was a company the CEO and board. So probably a group of experts, most likely exmayo footballers in this case. Ex-club footballers if it’s a club.
- absolutely it’s worth getting rid of the egos, 100%. A smart man will look at it and see how he can implement it but with his own stamp
- if the u-8 coach or the u-20 coach doesn’t do it then yes, out the door. People should be appointed on the basis that they buy into it

Again, a company sets a strategy and the staff follow it, this is the same.
I don't think its the same as a company, maybe at inter-county level where you have plenty of individuals willing to coach teams. However for most clubs you just don't have the luxury of being able to replace coaches if they don't follow the approach.
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Post by: larryin89 on October 12, 2018, 05:58:58 PM
What do ye make of the trials to be held over the bank holiday weekend ? 
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Post by: Syferus on October 12, 2018, 06:05:13 PM
What do ye make of the trials to be held over the bank holiday weekend ?

I know it’s an old panel, but I don’t think you’re going to make the cut all the same.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 12, 2018, 07:03:23 PM
I’m not saying to ignore skill sets but as a general rule there should be a Mayo way and we should be training all teams in that.

As for the other questions
- who decides any strategy? If it was a company the CEO and board. So probably a group of experts, most likely exmayo footballers in this case. Ex-club footballers if it’s a club.
- absolutely it’s worth getting rid of the egos, 100%. A smart man will look at it and see how he can implement it but with his own stamp
- if the u-8 coach or the u-20 coach doesn’t do it then yes, out the door. People should be appointed on the basis that they buy into it

Again, a company sets a strategy and the staff follow it, this is the same.
I don't think its the same as a company, maybe at inter-county level where you have plenty of individuals willing to coach teams. However for most clubs you just don't have the luxury of being able to replace coaches if they don't follow the approach.

I wouldn’t agree with you there, there’s a queue of lads to train underage teams

It also comes down to club wide buy in
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Post by: Ballaghman on October 12, 2018, 10:15:59 PM
Horan doing videos talking about Adventures, Quests and Odysseys. "Brand Mayo". Some amount of cringe. It's not the presidency he's taking over

He seems to have you rattled anyway  ;D ;D

My eyes rattled from cringing?

"Brand Mayo". He's the manager of an average rural county's amateur football team, not the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. Quests and Odysseys is even stranger again. Perhaps he's a World of Warcraft fan
who are hugely popular and successful in fundraising allowing them to compete at the top level of football for the last decade from our impoverished county rather than whinge about dublin.
Welcome to footballs real world

Should he not be trying to extract less money from people in one of the countries more impoverished counties rather than more? Brand Mayo, sounds like a racket to take yet more from loyal fans. I do agree that Mayo's fundraising from far afield has been phenomenal from a county that wouldn't exactly be known for big businessmen abroad.
Dont worry about us lad, we have plenty of big businessmen at  home and abroad. And by big businessmen I mean big as in the type with money not big as in fat lads who eat burgers. Not sure which you meant.
Another positive is that we werent found with our hands in the till like one of our neighbours!

Not quite sure what the Supermacs dig is about. A family run business that give endless amounts of money to local charities and initiatives.

Mayo have the 4th lowest disposable income per person in Ireland and a similarly low GDP per person. I'm not particularly worried about it but perhaps you should be. https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/revealed-the-richest-and-poorest-counties-in-ireland-36636317.html

Hard to know where to start with your wayward posts. As one of the lads said you obviously didn’t watch his interview. He doesn’t buy into the quest stuff, never has.
As for Mayo not being known for big business men at home or abroad? Have you ever been to London or New York? Full of wealthy Mayo men. At home, who do you think owns Portwest, Carraig Donn, McHale machinery, CBE, Smyths toys etc, some clever Galway lads?
Finally your understanding of economics is limited. Mayo has two of the wealthiest towns in Connacht. It also has big businesses and big backers throughout  the county. Per head GDP doesn’t come into it when you’re looking for serious backing, we have been blessed with rich and generous people behind the scenes, Howleys and Corcorans don’t exist in every county. Look at the map on the link you sent. We are grouped with Kerry. Ranked low like ourselves but with much wealthier individual towns than most counties, thanks to tourism and a sprinkling of big business.
We’ll be grand, as we always are. We’ll be competitive next year and that’s all of most of us are looking for, i.e. be better than last year and take it from there.
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Post by: larryin89 on October 13, 2018, 08:28:25 PM
Jeez Christ , diarmuid o Connor is the greatest . He will tear the fook outta Galway next year (no matter how low Galway go in his ear ) , you heard it hear first
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Post by: Beffs on October 14, 2018, 10:53:50 AM
Horan doing videos talking about Adventures, Quests and Odysseys. "Brand Mayo". Some amount of cringe. It's not the presidency he's taking over

He seems to have you rattled anyway  ;D ;D

My eyes rattled from cringing?

"Brand Mayo". He's the manager of an average rural county's amateur football team, not the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. Quests and Odysseys is even stranger again. Perhaps he's a World of Warcraft fan
who are hugely popular and successful in fundraising allowing them to compete at the top level of football for the last decade from our impoverished county rather than whinge about dublin.
Welcome to footballs real world

Should he not be trying to extract less money from people in one of the countries more impoverished counties rather than more? Brand Mayo, sounds like a racket to take yet more from loyal fans. I do agree that Mayo's fundraising from far afield has been phenomenal from a county that wouldn't exactly be known for big businessmen abroad.
Dont worry about us lad, we have plenty of big businessmen at  home and abroad. And by big businessmen I mean big as in the type with money not big as in fat lads who eat burgers. Not sure which you meant.
Another positive is that we werent found with our hands in the till like one of our neighbours!

Not quite sure what the Supermacs dig is about. A family run business that give endless amounts of money to local charities and initiatives.

Mayo have the 4th lowest disposable income per person in Ireland and a similarly low GDP per person. I'm not particularly worried about it but perhaps you should be. https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/revealed-the-richest-and-poorest-counties-in-ireland-36636317.html

Hard to know where to start with your wayward posts. As one of the lads said you obviously didn’t watch his interview. He doesn’t buy into the quest stuff, never has.
As for Mayo not being known for big business men at home or abroad? Have you ever been to London or New York? Full of wealthy Mayo men. At home, who do you think owns Portwest, Carraig Donn, McHale machinery, CBE, Smyths toys etc, some clever Galway lads?
Finally your understanding of economics is limited. Mayo has two of the wealthiest towns in Connacht. It also has big businesses and big backers throughout  the county. Per head GDP doesn’t come into it when you’re looking for serious backing, we have been blessed with rich and generous people behind the scenes, Howleys and Corcorans don’t exist in every county. Look at the map on the link you sent. We are grouped with Kerry. Ranked low like ourselves but with much wealthier individual towns than most counties, thanks to tourism and a sprinkling of big business.
We’ll be grand, as we always are. We’ll be competitive next year and that’s all of most of us are looking for, i.e. be better than last year and take it from there.

If Mayo is that rich & prosperous & has so many wealthy backers, how come so many Mayo folk (including the players) have to leave it to find work?
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Post by: Farrandeelin on October 14, 2018, 11:06:00 AM
Horan doing videos talking about Adventures, Quests and Odysseys. "Brand Mayo". Some amount of cringe. It's not the presidency he's taking over

He seems to have you rattled anyway  ;D ;D

My eyes rattled from cringing?

"Brand Mayo". He's the manager of an average rural county's amateur football team, not the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. Quests and Odysseys is even stranger again. Perhaps he's a World of Warcraft fan
who are hugely popular and successful in fundraising allowing them to compete at the top level of football for the last decade from our impoverished county rather than whinge about dublin.
Welcome to footballs real world

Should he not be trying to extract less money from people in one of the countries more impoverished counties rather than more? Brand Mayo, sounds like a racket to take yet more from loyal fans. I do agree that Mayo's fundraising from far afield has been phenomenal from a county that wouldn't exactly be known for big businessmen abroad.
Dont worry about us lad, we have plenty of big businessmen at  home and abroad. And by big businessmen I mean big as in the type with money not big as in fat lads who eat burgers. Not sure which you meant.
Another positive is that we werent found with our hands in the till like one of our neighbours!

Not quite sure what the Supermacs dig is about. A family run business that give endless amounts of money to local charities and initiatives.

Mayo have the 4th lowest disposable income per person in Ireland and a similarly low GDP per person. I'm not particularly worried about it but perhaps you should be. https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/revealed-the-richest-and-poorest-counties-in-ireland-36636317.html

Hard to know where to start with your wayward posts. As one of the lads said you obviously didn’t watch his interview. He doesn’t buy into the quest stuff, never has.
As for Mayo not being known for big business men at home or abroad? Have you ever been to London or New York? Full of wealthy Mayo men. At home, who do you think owns Portwest, Carraig Donn, McHale machinery, CBE, Smyths toys etc, some clever Galway lads?
Finally your understanding of economics is limited. Mayo has two of the wealthiest towns in Connacht. It also has big businesses and big backers throughout  the county. Per head GDP doesn’t come into it when you’re looking for serious backing, we have been blessed with rich and generous people behind the scenes, Howleys and Corcorans don’t exist in every county. Look at the map on the link you sent. We are grouped with Kerry. Ranked low like ourselves but with much wealthier individual towns than most counties, thanks to tourism and a sprinkling of big business.
We’ll be grand, as we always are. We’ll be competitive next year and that’s all of most of us are looking for, i.e. be better than last year and take it from there.

If Mayo is that rich & prosperous & has so many wealthy backers, how come so many Mayo folk (including the players) have to leave it to find work?

Ask the politicians.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: MayoBuck on October 14, 2018, 11:24:20 AM
Horan doing videos talking about Adventures, Quests and Odysseys. "Brand Mayo". Some amount of cringe. It's not the presidency he's taking over

He seems to have you rattled anyway  ;D ;D

My eyes rattled from cringing?

"Brand Mayo". He's the manager of an average rural county's amateur football team, not the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. Quests and Odysseys is even stranger again. Perhaps he's a World of Warcraft fan
who are hugely popular and successful in fundraising allowing them to compete at the top level of football for the last decade from our impoverished county rather than whinge about dublin.
Welcome to footballs real world

Should he not be trying to extract less money from people in one of the countries more impoverished counties rather than more? Brand Mayo, sounds like a racket to take yet more from loyal fans. I do agree that Mayo's fundraising from far afield has been phenomenal from a county that wouldn't exactly be known for big businessmen abroad.
Dont worry about us lad, we have plenty of big businessmen at  home and abroad. And by big businessmen I mean big as in the type with money not big as in fat lads who eat burgers. Not sure which you meant.
Another positive is that we werent found with our hands in the till like one of our neighbours!

Not quite sure what the Supermacs dig is about. A family run business that give endless amounts of money to local charities and initiatives.

Mayo have the 4th lowest disposable income per person in Ireland and a similarly low GDP per person. I'm not particularly worried about it but perhaps you should be. https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/revealed-the-richest-and-poorest-counties-in-ireland-36636317.html

Hard to know where to start with your wayward posts. As one of the lads said you obviously didn’t watch his interview. He doesn’t buy into the quest stuff, never has.
As for Mayo not being known for big business men at home or abroad? Have you ever been to London or New York? Full of wealthy Mayo men. At home, who do you think owns Portwest, Carraig Donn, McHale machinery, CBE, Smyths toys etc, some clever Galway lads?
Finally your understanding of economics is limited. Mayo has two of the wealthiest towns in Connacht. It also has big businesses and big backers throughout  the county. Per head GDP doesn’t come into it when you’re looking for serious backing, we have been blessed with rich and generous people behind the scenes, Howleys and Corcorans don’t exist in every county. Look at the map on the link you sent. We are grouped with Kerry. Ranked low like ourselves but with much wealthier individual towns than most counties, thanks to tourism and a sprinkling of big business.
We’ll be grand, as we always are. We’ll be competitive next year and that’s all of most of us are looking for, i.e. be better than last year and take it from there.

If Mayo is that rich & prosperous & has so many wealthy backers, how come so many Mayo folk (including the players) have to leave it to find work?

We suffer emigration as much as anyone but the point was that matters little when looking for fundraising. Despite what Manning seems to think, there are plenty of wealthy individuals at home and abroad who back the county team. It's not like going round with the biscuit tin to young families in Ballina or Crossmolina and looking for money!
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Post by: Beffs on October 14, 2018, 11:29:32 AM
Ask them yourself. A Mayo man was running the country until last year.

The very same GAA players are all able to find work in Kerry. Don't think I need to ask a politician why the Mayo ones can't.
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Post by: iorras on October 15, 2018, 09:20:50 AM
Ask them yourself. A Mayo man was running the country until last year.

The very same GAA players are all able to find work in Kerry. Don't think I need to ask a politician why the Mayo ones can't.
No they're not, they are all in CIT and UCC taking 10 years to do degrees or teaching in schools in Kerry. Ironically if it wasn't for Cork education institutions, Kerry would be f*cked.
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Post by: iorras on October 15, 2018, 09:24:24 AM
Now that things have settled down, does anyone have close to full story why Roachford wasn't kept on ? did the county board want him out ? or did horan make it know that he was interested in coming back and they decided he was a better option going forward ?
high stool talk alert with this but sure take what you may from it. There's a couple of wealthy backers to the county team, they weren't happy with last season and the general direction Rochy was going so they were threatening to pull the plug on the finances. They wanted Horan back to keep the funds going and the chairman knew what side his bread was buttered on so set about the required work.
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Post by: Ballaghman on October 15, 2018, 11:21:39 PM
Now that things have settled down, does anyone have close to full story why Roachford wasn't kept on ? did the county board want him out ? or did horan make it know that he was interested in coming back and they decided he was a better option going forward ?
high stool talk alert with this but sure take what you may from it. There's a couple of wealthy backers to the county team, they weren't happy with last season and the general direction Rochy was going so they were threatening to pull the plug on the finances. They wanted Horan back to keep the funds going and the chairman knew what side his bread was buttered on so set about the required work.
Heard the same thing but as you say could be pub talk
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Post by: Ballaghman on October 15, 2018, 11:36:53 PM
Ask them yourself. A Mayo man was running the country until last year.

The very same GAA players are all able to find work in Kerry. Don't think I need to ask a politician why the Mayo ones can't.
No they're not, they are all in CIT and UCC taking 10 years to do degrees or teaching in schools in Kerry. Ironically if it wasn't for Cork education institutions, Kerry would be f*cked.
Good point. Also the amount of Mayo lads in Dublin is misleading. A good number of the panel are in college and I agree with Ed Coughlan, I think they should have chosen Galway to go to college but that’s probably being a bit extreme I admit.
Some lads like Seamas O’Shea for example would struggle to find a job as an insurance underwriter in the west but most of the panel of a working age have jobs, and good jobs at that, in the west. We have the same problem as every other county west of the Shannon when it comes to construction related jobs. None of our lads have gone down the Darren O’Sullivan route of giving up work and Kerry has no more employment than ourselves. If any Mayo lad wants a job, they’ll get one in Allergan, Coca Cola etc but some decide not to or in some cases have a specialised profession like SOS. They’re in a privileged position of having options.
The point about fundraising is still valid. We are renowned for having wealthy business men who back us and it’s one of the reasons our football team can afford to spend (you could argue blow) so much money on things like travel and accommodation on the lads living in the east for example.
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Post by: Farrandeelin on October 16, 2018, 07:54:59 PM
Rochford rumoured to be part of Donegal management team.
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Post by: Orchard park on October 16, 2018, 09:49:24 PM
A lifelong ambition of his
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Post by: larryin89 on October 16, 2018, 09:51:50 PM
http://www.highlandradio.com/2018/10/16/stephen-rochford-to-join-donegal-management-team/
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Post by: Cunny Funt on October 16, 2018, 11:59:03 PM
Quote
He did have Connacht Senior Football Championship success along the way before stepping down in August of this year.

Wins over London and Sligo regarded as success?

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Post by: Rossfan on October 17, 2018, 01:05:27 AM
Sure he has to take some oul job seeing as he failed to land the Ros manager one.
I hear we've landed our new man. ;)
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Post by: Syferus on October 17, 2018, 01:26:18 AM
Sure he has to take some oul job seeing as he failed to land the Ros manager one.
I hear we've landed our new man. ;)

If you keep saying it you’ll eventually be right
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Post by: Rossfan on October 17, 2018, 01:27:46 AM
Never said it before.
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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Post by: Maroon Manc on October 17, 2018, 01:07:54 PM
Anthony Rainbow for Roscommon? Is he in charge of Ballyboden? Watched their game on youtube the other day and could have sworn I heard he was in charge of them

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Post by: larryin89 on October 17, 2018, 01:27:43 PM
Anthony Rainbow for Roscommon? Is he in charge of Ballyboden? Watched their game on youtube the other day and could have sworn I heard he was in charge of them

Yep in charge of boDen , what years was he with Carlow ? Was with sarsfields(Kildare) for two years .
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 17, 2018, 02:07:10 PM
Anthony Rainbow for Roscommon? Is he in charge of Ballyboden? Watched their game on youtube the other day and could have sworn I heard he was in charge of them

Yep in charge of boDen , what years was he with Carlow ? Was with sarsfields(Kildare) for two years .

2013/14 with Carlow. Managed to finished bottom of div 4 with them and conceded 7 goals in the championship to Meath. He was only a selector with sarsfields.
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Post by: Tubberman on October 17, 2018, 02:40:51 PM
Anthony Rainbow for Roscommon? Is he in charge of Ballyboden? Watched their game on youtube the other day and could have sworn I heard he was in charge of them

Yep in charge of boDen , what years was he with Carlow ? Was with sarsfields(Kildare) for two years .

2013/14 with Carlow. Managed to finished bottom of div 4 with them and conceded 7 goals in the championship to Meath. He was only a selector with sarsfields.

A good fit so.
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Post by: Syferus on October 17, 2018, 03:15:58 PM
Anthony Rainbow for Roscommon? Is he in charge of Ballyboden? Watched their game on youtube the other day and could have sworn I heard he was in charge of them

Yep in charge of boDen , what years was he with Carlow ? Was with sarsfields(Kildare) for two years .

2013/14 with Carlow. Managed to finished bottom of div 4 with them and conceded 7 goals in the championship to Meath. He was only a selector with sarsfields.

A good fit so.

He’s won as many AIs as James Horan and Cillian O’Connor combined.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on October 17, 2018, 04:51:45 PM
Anthony Rainbow for Roscommon? Is he in charge of Ballyboden? Watched their game on youtube the other day and could have sworn I heard he was in charge of them

Yep in charge of boDen , what years was he with Carlow ? Was with sarsfields(Kildare) for two years .

2013/14 with Carlow. Managed to finished bottom of div 4 with them and conceded 7 goals in the championship to Meath. He was only a selector with sarsfields.

A good fit so.

He’s won as many AIs as James Horan and Cillian O’Connor combined.

They have a fair few Connacht winning medals though  .
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Post by: Franko on October 17, 2018, 04:53:15 PM
Anthony Rainbow for Roscommon? Is he in charge of Ballyboden? Watched their game on youtube the other day and could have sworn I heard he was in charge of them

Yep in charge of boDen , what years was he with Carlow ? Was with sarsfields(Kildare) for two years .

2013/14 with Carlow. Managed to finished bottom of div 4 with them and conceded 7 goals in the championship to Meath. He was only a selector with sarsfields.

A good fit so.

He’s won as many AIs as James Horan and Cillian O’Connor combined.

But, unlike those lads, he's clearly not particularly interested in increasing that tally.
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Post by: Itchy on October 17, 2018, 05:05:55 PM
Whats all ireland medals won as a player got to do with All ireland won as a manager? Pretty much feck all. Except in Syphillis fantasy world.
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Post by: Rossfan on October 17, 2018, 11:37:05 PM
Apple gone back to the tree I believe :-\
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Post by: highorlow on October 18, 2018, 01:21:48 PM
Sean Boylan was a good manager.
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Post by: Manning18 on October 18, 2018, 04:39:15 PM
As for Mayo not being known for big business men at home or abroad? Have you ever been to London or New York? Full of wealthy Mayo men. At home, who do you think owns Portwest, Carraig Donn, McHale machinery, CBE, Smyths toys etc, some clever Galway lads?
Finally your understanding of economics is limited. Mayo has two of the wealthiest towns in Connacht. It also has big businesses and big backers throughout  the county.

I'm not disputing your backing, i'm saying you do a phenomenal job of getting backing. How hard is this to process? Mayo don't have comparable business here or abroad compared to counties like Cork, Kildare, Limerick, Galway, Wicklow etc (and you're deluded if you think they do) but the manage to obtain outside finance far better. Richest Mayo man Charlie Kenny is worth 200m. Plenty of counties can lay claim to billionaires.

Which wealthy towns are you referring to? When I think of wealthy towns in Connacht I think of Barna, Salthill, Oranmore, Rinville, Kinvara, Rosses point & Strandhill. Are there others with a more wealthy populace than these?
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Post by: rosnarun on October 19, 2018, 11:22:21 AM
As for Mayo not being known for big business men at home or abroad? Have you ever been to London or New York? Full of wealthy Mayo men. At home, who do you think owns Portwest, Carraig Donn, McHale machinery, CBE, Smyths toys etc, some clever Galway lads?
Finally your understanding of economics is limited. Mayo has two of the wealthiest towns in Connacht. It also has big businesses and big backers throughout  the county.

I'm not disputing your backing, i'm saying you do a phenomenal job of getting backing. How hard is this to process? Mayo don't have comparable business here or abroad compared to counties like Cork, Kildare, Limerick, Galway, Wicklow etc (and you're deluded if you think they do) but the manage to obtain outside finance far better. Richest Mayo man Charlie Kenny is worth 200m. Plenty of counties can lay claim to billionaires.

Which wealthy towns are you referring to? When I think of wealthy towns in Connacht I think of Barna, Salthill, Oranmore, Rinville, Kinvara, Rosses point & Strandhill. Are there others with a more wealthy populace than these?
your confusing wealth towns with place with wealthy people living there .
west cork or wicklow probable has more millionaire than anywhere else outside of Dublin but they are feck all good to the GAA
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Post by: Orchard park on October 19, 2018, 11:27:08 AM
Who is the lad from achill in London, a builder who is tanking Horan  again... ???

I  met him in Galway races before Rochford left and hdvwas insistent he woukd get Horan managing Mayo again this year... I though it was hot air but doesn't seem so now....
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Post by: Rossfan on October 19, 2018, 12:50:49 PM
No more than our own situation -where's the GAA's ethos when lads with money decide who your manager will be?
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Post by: Syferus on October 19, 2018, 12:51:41 PM
No more than our own situation -where's the GAA's ethos when lads with money decide who your manager will be?

You should ring them up and tell them you don’t want their money
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Post by: Rossfan on October 19, 2018, 01:22:36 PM
I don't get any of it .
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Post by: spuds on October 19, 2018, 01:46:18 PM
As for Mayo not being known for big business men at home or abroad? Have you ever been to London or New York? Full of wealthy Mayo men. At home, who do you think owns Portwest, Carraig Donn, McHale machinery, CBE, Smyths toys etc, some clever Galway lads?
Finally your understanding of economics is limited. Mayo has two of the wealthiest towns in Connacht. It also has big businesses and big backers throughout  the county.

I'm not disputing your backing, i'm saying you do a phenomenal job of getting backing. How hard is this to process? Mayo don't have comparable business here or abroad compared to counties like Cork, Kildare, Limerick, Galway, Wicklow etc (and you're deluded if you think they do) but the manage to obtain outside finance far better. Richest Mayo man Charlie Kenny is worth 200m. Plenty of counties can lay claim to billionaires.

Which wealthy towns are you referring to? When I think of wealthy towns in Connacht I think of Barna, Salthill, Oranmore, Rinville, Kinvara, Rosses point & Strandhill. Are there others with a more wealthy populace than these?
your confusing wealth towns with place with wealthy people living there .
west cork or wicklow probable has more millionaire than anywhere else outside of Dublin but they are feck all good to the GAA

Never mind this ladeen sure he thinks he is getting some reflected glory with all this talk of wealthy Galwegians.
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Post by: Tubberman on October 19, 2018, 02:10:39 PM
Who is the lad from achill in London, a builder who is tanking Horan  again... ???

I  met him in Galway races before Rochford left and hdvwas insistent he woukd get Horan managing Mayo again this year... I though it was hot air but doesn't seem so now....

Eddie Doran will be captain this year too.
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Post by: Randy on October 19, 2018, 02:28:39 PM
Who is the lad from achill in London, a builder who is tanking Horan  again... ???

Carey London?
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Post by: Orchard park on October 19, 2018, 04:12:02 PM
Who is the lad from achill in London, a builder who is tanking Horan  again... ???

Carey London?

no idea, from achill and into construction / engineering business, cash heavy anyways. I met him with Tom Doran
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Post by: Syferus on October 19, 2018, 04:34:34 PM
Do you mean the unmitigated eejit who built Achillhenge

If that’s what we’re up against I may as well book the hotel room for Salthill for the Connacht final
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Post by: Orchard park on October 19, 2018, 04:44:34 PM
no I dont

he was  Joe mcnamara and i'd remember him

this lad was  mega money territory and from talk afterwards has been mayos version of  Ballymore Mulryan
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Post by: Rossfan on October 19, 2018, 05:07:34 PM
With eejiteen's record of predictions we won't be making the Connacht Final next year :-\
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Post by: Syferus on October 19, 2018, 05:25:33 PM
With eejiteen's record of predictions we won't be making the Connacht Final next year :-\

Says the cowboy who keeps predicting the wrong manager
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Post by: Rossfan on October 19, 2018, 06:29:02 PM
At least I knew your hero was going to resign ;D
Sure you're still in denial.
As for the new man -my mate in the CB ;) was sure there was a done deal earlier in the week.
I don't recall making any predictions other than wishing that nice man Mr. Dineen would get it.
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Post by: larryin89 on October 19, 2018, 06:43:43 PM
no I dont

he was  Joe mcnamara and i'd remember him

this lad was  mega money territory and from talk afterwards has been mayos version of  Ballymore Mulryan

The only big time subby in London from achill I can think of would be Mickey Masterson (getjar ) . Good buck to work for but so are most subbys from achill . ICDS a massive recruitment firm mostly in construction are also achill men behind it , they supply men all over here , UK and Europe . Not sure who they are though tbh
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Post by: Ballaghman on October 20, 2018, 10:08:43 AM
As for Mayo not being known for big business men at home or abroad? Have you ever been to London or New York? Full of wealthy Mayo men. At home, who do you think owns Portwest, Carraig Donn, McHale machinery, CBE, Smyths toys etc, some clever Galway lads?
Finally your understanding of economics is limited. Mayo has two of the wealthiest towns in Connacht. It also has big businesses and big backers throughout  the county.

I'm not disputing your backing, i'm saying you do a phenomenal job of getting backing. How hard is this to process? Mayo don't have comparable business here or abroad compared to counties like Cork, Kildare, Limerick, Galway, Wicklow etc (and you're deluded if you think they do) but the manage to obtain outside finance far better. Richest Mayo man Charlie Kenny is worth 200m. Plenty of counties can lay claim to billionaires.

Which wealthy towns are you referring to? When I think of wealthy towns in Connacht I think of Barna, Salthill, Oranmore, Rinville, Kinvara, Rosses point & Strandhill. Are there others with a more wealthy populace than these?
your confusing wealth towns with place with wealthy people living there .
west cork or wicklow probable has more millionaire than anywhere else outside of Dublin but they are feck all good to the GAA

Never mind this ladeen sure he thinks he is getting some reflected glory with all this talk of wealthy Galwegians.
Yeah I’ve chosen the ignore option too. The poor lad lists off the wealthiest towns in Connacht and manages to leave the Mayo ones off the list. Maybe poor oul Westport will make it into Rinville’s league someday!
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Post by: Smurfy123 on October 31, 2018, 06:03:11 PM
Question for the Mayo folk
Why is it whatever mayo do under Horan is all over the press? He has a lot of links to the media but Jesus nobody cares who trialed with mayo. Looks like Horan has a fixation with the press and how he can get as much publicity as possible. James the bluffer Horan
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Post by: Syferus on October 31, 2018, 06:05:54 PM
Question for the Mayo folk
Why is it whatever mayo do under Horan is all over the press? He has a lot of links to the media but Jesus nobody cares who trialed with mayo. Looks like Horan has a fixation with the press and how he can get as much publicity as possible. James the bluffer Horan

You tell them, Smurfy
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Smurfy123 on October 31, 2018, 10:26:54 PM
Is it not correct. Horan goes to the shop he makes sure it’s all over the press. Big interview 2 weeks ago about him holding trial matches and all the big names were going. So what! It happens everywhere but only in mayo does it make headlines. Horan loves the limelight.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: JoG2 on October 31, 2018, 10:34:15 PM
Is it not correct. Horan goes to the shop he makes sure it’s all over the press. Big interview 2 weeks ago about him holding trial matches and all the big names were going. So what! It happens everywhere but only in mayo does it make headlines. Horan loves the limelight.

Sir, do you have anything positive to say about anyone / anything? A melter as they'd say up in Derry City
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Never beat the deeler on November 01, 2018, 06:25:35 AM
Is it not correct. Horan goes to the shop he makes sure it’s all over the press. Big interview 2 weeks ago about him holding trial matches and all the big names were going. So what! It happens everywhere but only in mayo does it make headlines. Horan loves the limelight.

People write the articles to harvest the clicks from the likes of yourself who cannot wait to read the article so they can proclaim exactly how much they don't care.
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Post by: Smurfy123 on November 01, 2018, 07:08:13 AM
No I don’t care what they do but always stumble over what mayo are doing. Since Horan has taken over he has hogged the limelight. He has to remember it’s not about him it’s about mayo. What other intercounty manager gets as much airtime? Jog2 shut up ya melon head.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Never beat the deeler on November 01, 2018, 07:36:23 AM
No I don’t care what they do but always stumble over what mayo are doing. Since Horan has taken over he has hogged the limelight. He has to remember it’s not about him it’s about mayo. What other intercounty manager gets as much airtime? Jog2 shut up ya melon head.

So maybe someone needs to rename this thread so you are aware it's about Mayo.

Then you should be able to steer clear
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Post by: Farrandeelin on November 01, 2018, 08:36:52 AM
No I don’t care what they do but always stumble over what mayo are doing. Since Horan has taken over he has hogged the limelight. He has to remember it’s not about him it’s about mayo. What other intercounty manager gets as much airtime? Jog2 shut up ya melon head.

As Syf himself said, who cares? If you don't care, don't read.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on November 04, 2018, 12:44:33 AM
Goalkeepers:
Rob Hennelly (Breaffy)
David Clarke (Ballina Stephenites)
Michael Schlingerman (Kiltimagh)

Defenders:
Ben Doyle (Westport)
Cian Burke (Ardnaree)
James McCormack (Claremorris)
Keith Higgins (Ballyhaunus)
Colm Boyle (Davitts)
Caolan Crowe (Garrymore)
Lee Keegan (Westport)
Donal Vaughan (Castlebar Mitchels)
Patrick Durcan (Castlebar Mitchels)
Ger Cafferkey (Ballina Stephenites)
Cathal Horan (Kilmovee)
Chris Barrett (Belmullet)
Eoin O’ Donoghue (Belmullet)
Brendan Harrison (Aughamore)
Stephen Coen (Hollymount)
Brian Murphy (Ballintubber)
Michael Plunkett (Ballintubber)
David Drake (Ballaghadreen)

Midfielders:
Jason Gibbons (Ballintubber)
Seamus O Shea (Breaffy)
Matthew Ruane (Breaffy)
Fionn McDonagh (Westport)
Diarmuid O Connor (Ballintubber)

Forwards:
Andy Moran (Ballaghadreen)
Jason Doherty (Burrishoole)
Cillian O Connor (Ballintubber)
Kevin McGloughlan (Knockmore)
Conor Loftus (Crossmolina)
Evan Regan (Ballina)
Aidan O Shea (Breaffy)
Conor Diskin (Claremorris)
Tommy Conroy (Kiltane)
James Carr (Ardagh)
James Durcan (Castlebar)
James Kelly (Belmullet)
Ryan O’ Donoghue (Belmullet)
Colm Moran (Westport)
Oisin McGloughlin (Westport)
Fergal Boland (Aughamore)
Aidan O’ Sullivan (The Neale)
Darren Coen (Hollymount

Ciaran Treacy (Ballina )

Mikey Murray (Ballina)

Rumoured panel according to the legendary "ah ref "
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Gael85 on November 04, 2018, 01:26:18 AM
Has Schlingermann given up the soccer? I remember him playing minor for Mayo around 09/2010.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on November 04, 2018, 01:38:14 AM
Everyone in Ballaghadereen must be laughing their holes off at the idea that David Drake is good enough to not only make Mayo panel’s but get playing time but Akram isn’t. Same old Horan. Same old result.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: spuds on November 04, 2018, 01:44:04 AM
Everyone in Ballaghadereen must be laughing their holes off at the idea that David Drake is good enough to not only make Mayo panel’s but get playing time but Akram isn’t. Same old Horan. Same old result.
Only laughing going on in Ballaghadereen is at the Rossies selling houses and no one to drive their big blue bus.
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Post by: Cunny Funt on November 04, 2018, 01:48:37 AM
Someone needs to tell the ah ref chap that the surname is McLoughlin instead of McGloughlan.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on November 04, 2018, 01:53:09 AM
Everyone in Ballaghadereen must be laughing their holes off at the idea that David Drake is good enough to not only make Mayo panel’s but get playing time but Akram isn’t. Same old Horan. Same old result.
Only laughing going on in Ballaghadereen is at the Rossies selling houses and no one to drive their big blue bus.

I didn’t know the manager drove the bus

You seem to have a real passion for Roscommon football
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: spuds on November 04, 2018, 02:22:29 AM
Everyone in Ballaghadereen must be laughing their holes off at the idea that David Drake is good enough to not only make Mayo panel’s but get playing time but Akram isn’t. Same old Horan. Same old result.
Only laughing going on in Ballaghadereen is at the Rossies selling houses and no one to drive their big blue bus.

I didn’t know the manager drove the bus

You seem to have a real passion for Roscommon football
Swoosh.

Swoosh.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on November 04, 2018, 03:23:32 AM
Everyone in Ballaghadereen must be laughing their holes off at the idea that David Drake is good enough to not only make Mayo panel’s but get playing time but Akram isn’t. Same old Horan. Same old result.
Only laughing going on in Ballaghadereen is at the Rossies selling houses and no one to drive their big blue bus.

I didn’t know the manager drove the bus

You seem to have a real passion for Roscommon football
Swoosh.

Swoosh.

Is that the sound of the ball going over the Mayo crossbar
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 04, 2018, 06:49:35 AM
Everyone in Ballaghadereen must be laughing their holes off at the idea that David Drake is good enough to not only make Mayo panel’s but get playing time but Akram isn’t. Same old Horan. Same old result.
Only laughing going on in Ballaghadereen is at the Rossies selling houses and no one to drive their big blue bus.

I didn’t know the manager drove the bus

You seem to have a real passion for Roscommon football
Swoosh.

Swoosh.

Is that the sound of the ball going over the Mayo crossbar

Sure who cares?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on November 04, 2018, 09:08:30 AM
Everyone in Ballaghadereen must be laughing their holes off at the idea that David Drake is good enough to not only make Mayo panel’s but get playing time but Akram isn’t. Same old Horan. Same old result.

"Same old horan".

Hopefully.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Orchard park on November 04, 2018, 10:06:38 AM
Everyone in Ballaghadereen must be laughing their holes off at the idea that David Drake is good enough to not only make Mayo panel’s but get playing time but Akram isn’t. Same old Horan. Same old result.
Only laughing going on in Ballaghadereen is at the Rossies selling houses and no one to drive their big blue bus.

I didn’t know the manager drove the bus

You seem to have a real passion for Roscommon football



I'd say he know more about  it than you do
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 04, 2018, 10:24:39 AM
No Brian Reape would be very surprising

Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Blowitupref on November 04, 2018, 11:30:53 AM
When Horan cuts the panel to about 34 for the championship it will be interesting to see how many of those new players will still be there.
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Post by: mayoman dan on November 04, 2018, 01:34:06 PM
Hard to get excited about any of this.Horan had his chances and blew them all.Caught badly on the line several times.Tossed aside several good players the most notable of which was Tom Parsons.Do the Mayo posters on here think he will have changed??? Hard to have faith in a man that deemed Parsons surplus to requirements to rebuild a team and find good young players.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on November 04, 2018, 02:44:25 PM
No Brian Reape would be very surprising

No reape, Hanley, akram nor cunnife .

Conor o Shea , Kirby, hall, Douglas , not making it as well.
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Post by: mayoman dan on November 04, 2018, 03:07:14 PM
No Brian Reape would be very surprising

No reape, Hanley, akram nor cunnife .

Conor o Shea , Kirby, hall, Douglas , not making it as well.
Heard Hanley is injured.Surprised Naughton from knockmore wasnt kept
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on November 04, 2018, 04:05:18 PM
No Brian Reape would be very surprising

Horan’s unwavering trust of old stagers over younger players is well known. Honestly I’m surprised someone like Evan Regan is even willing to play under him again. Could still end in tears for some of the younger lads as that panel isn’t going to remain that big for very long.
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Post by: iorras on November 05, 2018, 09:15:08 AM
No Brian Reape would be very surprising

Horan’s unwavering trust of old stagers over younger players is well known. Honestly I’m surprised someone like Evan Regan is even willing to play under him again. Could still end in tears for some of the younger lads as that panel isn’t going to remain that big for very long.
Sure you live in hope. Someday you might even be right about something. God is good
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 05, 2018, 09:50:32 AM
Anyone else annoyed by Ah Ref's constant leaking of Mayo football business. Yes he probably does it in good faith, but it annoyed me anyway when I saw it published initially. As for the panel itself, midfield is worrying, very worrying.
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Post by: galwayman on November 05, 2018, 09:59:28 AM
Anyone else annoyed by Ah Ref's constant leaking of Mayo football business. Yes he probably does it in good faith, but it annoyed me anyway when I saw it published initially. As for the panel itself, midfield is worrying, very worrying.
Is it the actual panel though?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Tubberman on November 05, 2018, 10:01:11 AM
Anyone else annoyed by Ah Ref's constant leaking of Mayo football business. Yes he probably does it in good faith, but it annoyed me anyway when I saw it published initially. As for the panel itself, midfield is worrying, very worrying.
Is it the actual panel though?

Doubtful.
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Post by: highorlow on November 05, 2018, 10:02:43 AM
Quote
Doubtful.

I thought Jason Gibbons retired from the county? I wouldn't believe that panel listed.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: joemamas on November 05, 2018, 03:38:02 PM
Anyone else annoyed by Ah Ref's constant leaking of Mayo football business. Yes he probably does it in good faith, but it annoyed me anyway when I saw it published initially. As for the panel itself, midfield is worrying, very worrying.
Is it the actual panel though?

Doubtful.

I hope it is not, I genuinely don't think that even the most optimistic Mayo supporter believes that our current forward line, as in last two to three years is going to win an all-Ireland. Reality is we are in a period of transition, James Horan hopefully realizes and embraces that.

I am not going to go into specific names on the panel, as I respect the effort these guys put in, we have had the most amazing seven or eight years thanks to them, but realistically I would be very happy if we are having this same discussion in two years and he has nurtured four or five new players into the starting 15.

Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: moysider on November 05, 2018, 11:41:55 PM
When Horan cuts the panel to about 34 for the championship it will be interesting to see how many of those new players will still be there.

Very few obviously.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Farrandeelin on November 09, 2018, 10:29:44 PM
Anyone else annoyed by Horan's statement. Ffs, I'm sure Mayo aren't the only county trying out new players for 2019. Snoopdog may well be correct re Horan.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Tubberman on November 09, 2018, 10:58:16 PM
Anyone else annoyed by Horan's statement. Ffs, I'm sure Mayo aren't the only county trying out new players for 2019. Snoopdog may well be correct re Horan.

Pointless but hardly worth getting annoyed about
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Lar Naparka on November 09, 2018, 11:08:56 PM
Anyone else annoyed by Horan's statement. Ffs, I'm sure Mayo aren't the only county trying out new players for 2019. Snoopdog may well be correct re Horan.
What statement Farr? I've haven't heard anything about it.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Blowitupref on November 09, 2018, 11:10:43 PM
Anyone else annoyed by Horan's statement. Ffs, I'm sure Mayo aren't the only county trying out new players for 2019. Snoopdog may well be correct re Horan.
What statement Farr? I've haven't heard anything about it.

http://mayogaa.com/news-detail/10045569/
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Lar Naparka on November 09, 2018, 11:26:08 PM
Anyone else annoyed by Horan's statement. Ffs, I'm sure Mayo aren't the only county trying out new players for 2019. Snoopdog may well be correct re Horan.
What statement Farr? I've haven't heard anything about it.

http://mayogaa.com/news-detail/10045569/
Arra, there is feck all there to get annoyed about.  Doesn't every manager in the land come out with something similar when he takes over any team? .....Morale is high.. great interest from the players.. all are champing at the bit and everyone rearin' to go etc. etc. The county board asked him for a statement and, surely to hell, you wouldn't/ couldn't expect anything else from Horan or Anthony Cunningham for that matter or any other new appointee.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Smurfy123 on November 09, 2018, 11:38:42 PM
What a bluffer this man is. The James Horan show is well and truly back. 100 players trialed but what’s the odds 13 of the established players start in the first big championship test? I’ll come back to this post in July. Horan has the best Mayo panel ever and messed up. Why does he have to give a running commentary about what’s going on in mayo football?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: sans pessimism on November 10, 2018, 11:54:46 AM
What a bluffer this man is. The James Horan show is well and truly back. 100 players trialed but what’s the odds 13 of the established players start in the first big championship test? I’ll come back to this post in July. Horan has the best Mayo panel ever and messed up. Why does he have to give a running commentary about what’s going on in mayo football?
y'all have nothing else for doing in July except posting here.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: rosnarun on November 14, 2018, 05:09:39 PM
What a bluffer this man is. The James Horan show is well and truly back. 100 players trialed but what’s the odds 13 of the established players start in the first big championship test? I’ll come back to this post in July. Horan has the best Mayo panel ever and messed up. Why does he have to give a running commentary about what’s going on in mayo football?
well if he et 2 new player that ok of a return .

any word on a final panel apart from ah refs version?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: bucko on November 14, 2018, 07:16:23 PM
This week’s Mayo News has a piece about the final panel. New inclusions are Fionn McDonagh, Oisin McLoughlin, Conor Diskin and Ryan O’Donaghue. Reape is also in the squad, while Shane Nally, Adam Gallagher, Conor O’Shea and Shairoze Akram didn’t make it. Cian Hanley wasn’t named either due injury. There are a few more names mentioned but don’t have the paper to hand at the mo. The piece also stated the the panel would be open ended up to the championship.
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Post by: iorras on November 15, 2018, 09:37:49 AM
This week’s Mayo News has a piece about the final panel. New inclusions are Fionn McDonagh, Oisin McLoughlin, Conor Diskin and Ryan O’Donaghue. Reape is also in the squad, while Shane Nally, Adam Gallagher, Conor O’Shea and Shairoze Akram didn’t make it. Cian Hanley wasn’t named either due injury. There are a few more names mentioned but don’t have the paper to hand at the mo. The piece also stated the the panel would be open ended up to the championship.
It isn't in the online free version unfortunately. What do they expect us to do, pay for something? For Gods sake
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on November 16, 2018, 02:58:27 PM
I'll say it again - David Drake being better than Shairoze Akram in Horan's eyes perfectly encapsulates why this isn't going to end well for him and his old stagers.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on November 16, 2018, 06:56:22 PM
I'll say it again - David Drake being better than Shairoze Akram in Horan's eyes perfectly encapsulates why this isn't going to end well for him and his old stagers.

Like I've said previously must be a great comfort to yourself to see Horan back  , surely Ros will manage Mayo this year then ?
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Orchard park on November 16, 2018, 09:11:08 PM
Is any Mayo man as upset as a Roscommon man about young Akram young lad.... on my limited viewing saw nithing to show he was county senior material.....
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Syferus on November 16, 2018, 09:12:23 PM
Is any Mayo man as upset as a Roscommon man about young Akram young lad.... on my limited viewing saw nithing to show he was county senior material.....

Limited viewing would be the best description you could put on yourself alright.

Back in your corner.
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Post by: Rossfan on November 16, 2018, 11:56:14 PM
Syfīn still enthralled by all things Rhubarb  ::)
"Mayo" will win Sam when they next have no one from Co Roscommon on their Senior panel.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Orchard park on November 17, 2018, 02:08:12 PM
Is any Mayo man as upset as a Roscommon man about young Akram young lad.... on my limited viewing saw nithing to show he was county senior material.....

Limited viewing would be the best description you could put on yourself alright.

Back in your corner.

Ignoring the petulant prepubescent,
Calling mayomen as opposed to the  Sufferus..... is Akram non selection a scandal
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Ballaghman on November 18, 2018, 04:20:49 PM
Is any Mayo man as upset as a Roscommon man about young Akram young lad.... on my limited viewing saw nithing to show he was county senior material.....

Limited viewing would be the best description you could put on yourself alright.

Back in your corner.

Ignoring the petulant prepubescent,
Calling mayomen as opposed to the  Sufferus..... is Akram non selection a scandal
As a Ballagh Mayo man I would say no is the answer. Sharoize is a talent but he still needs to work on parts of his game. He’s really unlucky that he’s in a line of the team that is so strong. If he works on his skills and develops more physically then I think he’ll be looked at again.
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Post by: Orchard park on November 18, 2018, 08:44:34 PM
Thanks Ballaghman....

As i would have seen it also
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Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 19, 2018, 11:00:34 AM
Is any Mayo man as upset as a Roscommon man about young Akram young lad.... on my limited viewing saw nithing to show he was county senior material.....

Limited viewing would be the best description you could put on yourself alright.

Back in your corner.

Ignoring the petulant prepubescent,
Calling mayomen as opposed to the  Sufferus..... is Akram non selection a scandal

We know from past experience that Horan values ball skills, it was something he introduced last time round. From what I’ve seen of Akram he is a great athlete but lacking finesse. Hanley could easily fall into the same category.
Delighted to see Reape is included, he seems to light up the club scene
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: rosnarun on November 19, 2018, 01:16:49 PM
Is any Mayo man as upset as a Roscommon man about young Akram young lad.... on my limited viewing saw nithing to show he was county senior material.....

Limited viewing would be the best description you could put on yourself alright.

Back in your corner.

Ignoring the petulant prepubescent,
Calling mayomen as opposed to the  Sufferus..... is Akram non selection a scandal
As a Ballagh Mayo man I would say no is the answer. Sharoize is a talent but he still needs to work on parts of his game. He’s really unlucky that he’s in a line of the team that is so strong. If he works on his skills and develops more physically then I think he’ll be looked at again.
Akram seemed to have got a lot broader this years and playing more aggressively . looks more like an old style corner back now than a flying wing back
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on November 19, 2018, 06:02:14 PM
The Mayo Senior squad for 2019 begin training for the first time last week with sessions taking place in both Mayo & Dublin with players from Senior, Intermediate & Junior clubs all involved.

The latest injury news on the current squad is as follows:
Cian Hanley (knee), Ryan O'Donoghe (ankle), Fionn McDonagh (knee) & Tom Parsosn (knee) are all making great progress following their recent surgeries. We look forward to welcoming them back onto the field of play in the coming weeks and months.

Latest update from official website .
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Post by: Cunny Funt on November 19, 2018, 06:44:19 PM
The Mayo Senior squad for 2019 begin training for the first time last week with sessions taking place in both Mayo & Dublin with players from Senior, Intermediate & Junior clubs all involved.

The latest injury news on the current squad is as follows:
Cian Hanley (knee), Ryan O'Donoghe (ankle), Fionn McDonagh (knee) & Tom Parsosn (knee) are all making great progress following their recent surgeries. We look forward to welcoming them back onto the field of play in the coming weeks and months.

Latest update from official website .
Will be some recovery if he's back in the coming months.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on November 19, 2018, 07:02:22 PM
Pic of him today from ballyhaunis school ,I didn't notice any crutches in the snap.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: joemamas on November 19, 2018, 07:08:04 PM
Is any Mayo man as upset as a Roscommon man about young Akram young lad.... on my limited viewing saw nithing to show he was county senior material.....

Limited viewing would be the best description you could put on yourself alright.

Back in your corner.

Ignoring the petulant prepubescent,
Calling mayomen as opposed to the  Sufferus..... is Akram non selection a scandal

We know from past experience that Horan values ball skills, it was something he introduced last time round. From what I’ve seen of Akram he is a great athlete but lacking finesse. Hanley could easily fall into the same category.
Delighted to see Reape is included, he seems to light up the club scene

Surprised he has not given Jack Reilly a shot based on the same.
Any thoughts.
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: Ballaghman on November 19, 2018, 08:16:19 PM
Is any Mayo man as upset as a Roscommon man about young Akram young lad.... on my limited viewing saw nithing to show he was county senior material.....

Limited viewing would be the best description you could put on yourself alright.

Back in your corner.

Ignoring the petulant prepubescent,
Calling mayomen as opposed to the  Sufferus..... is Akram non selection a scandal

We know from past experience that Horan values ball skills, it was something he introduced last time round. From what I’ve seen of Akram he is a great athlete but lacking finesse. Hanley could easily fall into the same category.
Delighted to see Reape is included, he seems to light up the club scene
Hanley’s ball skills will be fine. He was rushed back on to the scene last year but isn’t ready. He’s a serious footballer and it’s only a matter of time before the skill levels return.
Agree with you on Reape, lots of potential there with some good coaching
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: larryin89 on December 02, 2018, 02:11:40 AM
Mayo in absolute turmoil  . Horan hasn't a clue and lost all control
Title: Re: Mayo manager resigns - for defo.
Post by: CornerBackNo2 on December 02, 2018, 03:31:20 AM
Mayo in absolute turmoil  . Horan hasn't a clue and lost all control

Elaborate please
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Post by: stephenite on December 02, 2018, 08:27:28 AM
Mayo in absolute turmoil  . Horan hasn't a clue and lost all control

2:11am
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Post by: Mayo Border on December 02, 2018, 11:27:09 AM
How are feeling today Larry?