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Title: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 06, 2018, 02:00:59 PM
Can Galway get on any better than Tyrone did last year?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Syferus on August 06, 2018, 02:08:34 PM
Here lies the Galway hype train born February 2018 - died 11th August 2018.

May it rest in piece.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 06, 2018, 02:19:36 PM
Here lies the Galway hype train born February 2018 - died 11th August 2018.

May it rest in piece.

I’ll be sure to save the a space beside the headstone that reads “Here lie Roscommon- who won two championship games all year (against division three and four teams).
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Syferus on August 06, 2018, 02:22:04 PM
Here lies the Galway hype train born February 2018 - died 11th August 2018.

May it rest in piece.

I’ll be sure to save the a space beside the headstone that reads “Here lie Roscommon- who won two championship games all year (against division three and four teams).

More than the noisy neigbours achieved anyways. Keep singing Garth Brooks and the good times will come, though.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 06, 2018, 02:29:25 PM
Here lies the Galway hype train born February 2018 - died 11th August 2018.

May it rest in piece.

I’ll be sure to save the a space beside the headstone that reads “Here lie Roscommon- who won two championship games all year (against division three and four teams).

More than the noisy neigbours achieved anyways. Keep singing Garth Brooks and the good times will come, though.

Well at least yous got a chance to embarrass yourselves on a national stage this yeat
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: giveballaghback on August 06, 2018, 03:14:00 PM
Great start to a thread for an all-Ireland semi-final, would ye gobs..... ever post about the match.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 06, 2018, 03:21:19 PM
It's mental, thread not even started by a member from one the counties involved, no one from Galway or Dublin gives a shite about the Rossies or Mayo at this time of the year.

As for the match, hopeful of a good Galway performance on the day but the Dublin squad are a fantastic outfit that are clearly better than everyone else in the country so you have to remain realistic. This is still the best year for the Galway seniors in 17 years regardless of Saturday's outcome.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 06, 2018, 03:39:34 PM
Hopefully we can put on a good display anyway. Won't be hard to beat the non-effort we served up last weekend. A big ask though needless to say. Dubs rested a lot of players and still stuck 4-24 on the Rossies. Again just have to hang in the game with them as long as possible. Nightmare scenario is the Dubs sneaking in for a couple of early goals and you are left chasing the game after that. Don't want to be doing that against Dublin.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: galwayman on August 06, 2018, 04:19:47 PM
From what I hear Sean Kelly’s injury was cramp not a hammer strain.
Not sure about Kerin though - I missed it live but I hear it looked like a hammer tweak?
You’d imagine the complete lack of intensity on Saturday won’t be replicated next week.
If it is the game will be over at half time.
Dublin will win but if the intensity levels are where they should be then we should give it a decent go.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: SouthDublinBro on August 06, 2018, 06:58:32 PM
Not buying that Monaghan are any better than Galway who had no reason to go all out in that game. Galway certainly have the midfield to give us a good challenge.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 06, 2018, 09:03:24 PM
4 in a row is a big ask which is why it is so rare. Galway should give it a right lash.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: From the Bunker on August 06, 2018, 09:12:38 PM
4 in a row is a big ask which is why it is so rare. Galway should give it a right lash.

I know it's mushroom season and this year is an bountiful one. But I think you are picking e wrong ones.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 06, 2018, 09:44:19 PM
4 in a row is a big ask which is why it is so rare. Galway should give it a right lash.

I know it's mushroom season and this year is an bountiful one. But I think you are picking e wrong ones.
Sher Mayo never lost by more than a point and had no forwards
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: DJGaliv on August 06, 2018, 10:06:36 PM
Just ignore lads not talking about the game.

At least we won't be hyped coming into this game. What have we to lose really? Put up a decent show against the Dubs and everyone will be happy. Pressure is off in one sense. Also usually on the back of a non-performance we are back home thinking of next season. At least this time we get to have another crack and hopefully learn how poor we look when we aren't at the right level of intensity! We just can't afford that.

I'd say Heaney will come back in for GOD, Duggan might get in for Cooke, and would be huge if Michael Daly was back as I think we need to leave Walsh up the field. Hopefully, Kerin and Kelly are fit too.

The loss of Conroy's experience is massive really, but hope that having Cooke's legs off the bench would be very helpful with Duggan now back.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: From the Bunker on August 06, 2018, 10:18:16 PM
Don't go in with the '' There's nothing to lose attitude''. First of all there is a game to lose. Secondly there is a potential hammering. Thirdly there's a AI final place. Fourthly there's beating Dublin. After that is dream world. These chances don't come around often! There is something to lose if you have got this far.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 06, 2018, 10:35:02 PM
The team are definitely going to go into the match with the right attitude, that's all that matters.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: yellowcard on August 06, 2018, 11:13:20 PM
People are reading too much into the Galway performance against Monaghan where it was obvious that their players were not playing with the necessary intensity or aggression associated with a knock out fixture. It may have been sub conscious but it definitely existed.

These 2 sides have been the best 2 in the country all season long and the gap is not that big. Dublin are built up into this monster but the reality is that a lot of their better players are in decline or no longer available. Some day they will get beat. I’m not sure Galway will actually beat them but neither do I believe this talk about a potential hammering for Galway. I just don’t see that happening and I don’t think there will be an awful lot separating them after 70 minutes.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on August 07, 2018, 01:36:20 AM
They nearly got caught by a 14 man Kildare team running on fumes too. Not great form.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 07, 2018, 05:59:13 AM
Don't go in with the '' There's nothing to lose attitude''. First of all there is a game to lose. Secondly there is a potential hammering. Thirdly there's a AI final place. Fourthly there's beating Dublin. After that is dream world. These chances don't come around often! There is something to lose if you have got this far.
It is a process potentially over a few years for Galway. Like Mayo in 2011. The Dubs are hardly going to win 7 in a row. Galway need to perform well to line up next year.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: larryin89 on August 07, 2018, 06:16:41 AM
Don't go in with the '' There's nothing to lose attitude''. First of all there is a game to lose. Secondly there is a potential hammering. Thirdly there's a AI final place. Fourthly there's beating Dublin. After that is dream world. These chances don't come around often! There is something to lose if you have got this far.
It is a process potentially over a few years for Galway. Like Mayo in 2011. The Dubs are hardly going to win 7 in a row. Galway need to perform well to line up next year.

Hope you're right about Dublin not winning seven in a row but if they do where does this end , at what stage is dominance considered beyond ridiculous?

To the game itself  up to last Sunday I thought Galway were in with a great shout , now we can't be sure at all. Comer will have to step up here.

In general to me it seems Dublin not as good as last year but is there any team as equipped as Mayo have been the past couple of years to give them a right battle , it remains to be seen. Dublin the lowest odds ever in history at the start of championship are now 1/6 to beat who most people see as their biggest threat .
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Blowitupref on August 07, 2018, 09:08:08 AM
People are reading too much into the Galway performance against Monaghan where it was obvious that their players were not playing with the necessary intensity or aggression associated with a knock out fixture. It may have been sub conscious but it definitely existed.

These 2 sides have been the best 2 in the country all season long and the gap is not that big. Dublin are built up into this monster but the reality is that a lot of their better players are in decline or no longer available. Some day they will get beat. I’m not sure Galway will actually beat them but neither do I believe this talk about a potential hammering for Galway. I just don’t see that happening and I don’t think there will be an awful lot separating them after 70 minutes.

Care to give names?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: yellowcard on August 07, 2018, 09:48:57 AM
People are reading too much into the Galway performance against Monaghan where it was obvious that their players were not playing with the necessary intensity or aggression associated with a knock out fixture. It may have been sub conscious but it definitely existed.

These 2 sides have been the best 2 in the country all season long and the gap is not that big. Dublin are built up into this monster but the reality is that a lot of their better players are in decline or no longer available. Some day they will get beat. I’m not sure Galway will actually beat them but neither do I believe this talk about a potential hammering for Galway. I just don’t see that happening and I don’t think there will be an awful lot separating them after 70 minutes.

Care to give names?
 

Flynn, Brogan, Connolly who were arguably 3 of their best players on the team that made the initial breakthrough. Then you have players like O'Callaghan and Mannion who have played an awful lot of football/hurling in the last 2 years and who look weary. They might still be good enough to beat the rest but they are now more functional and conservative than at any under time under Jim Gavin.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: hardstation on August 07, 2018, 10:02:46 AM
They nearly got caught by a 14 man Kildare team running on fumes too. Not great form.
They weren’t great against a Roscommon team that other teams hockeyed.
They weren’t great against Kerry but they won so they were great.

They’ll need to be greatly exceeding anything they’ve produced in the championship this year to get near Dublin.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Blowitupref on August 07, 2018, 10:15:07 AM
People are reading too much into the Galway performance against Monaghan where it was obvious that their players were not playing with the necessary intensity or aggression associated with a knock out fixture. It may have been sub conscious but it definitely existed.

These 2 sides have been the best 2 in the country all season long and the gap is not that big. Dublin are built up into this monster but the reality is that a lot of their better players are in decline or no longer available. Some day they will get beat. I’m not sure Galway will actually beat them but neither do I believe this talk about a potential hammering for Galway. I just don’t see that happening and I don’t think there will be an awful lot separating them after 70 minutes.

Care to give names?
 

Flynn, Brogan, Connolly who were arguably 3 of their best players on the team that made the initial breakthrough. Then you have players like O'Callaghan and Mannion who have played an awful lot of football/hurling in the last 2 years and who look weary. They might still be good enough to beat the rest but they are now more functional and conservative than at any under time under Jim Gavin.

They have moved on from their initial breakthrough though and evolved thanks to their AI U21 success and the seamless transition of players such as Fenton,Howard. A lot of their better players now are McMahon,O Sullivan,Cooper,McCarthy and all are probably at the peak of their powers and Dublin have more scoring forward options right now than arguably ever before. They could be conservative again on Saturday which should mean Galway shouldn't get hammered but i suppose we'll wait and see.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: galwayman on August 07, 2018, 10:29:30 AM
They nearly got caught by a 14 man Kildare team running on fumes too. Not great form.
They weren’t great against a Roscommon team that other teams hockeyed.
They weren’t great against Kerry but they won so they were great.

They’ll need to be greatly exceeding anything they’ve produced in the championship this year to get near Dublin.
I would agree with that.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 07, 2018, 11:15:59 AM
3 goals at delicate Junctures would beat the Dubz.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 07, 2018, 11:53:22 AM
What odds a Galway red card?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 07, 2018, 11:53:33 AM
3 goals at delicate Junctures would beat the Dubz.
Galway's current scoring return on goals (ignore the Sligo match) in the championship this year suggests that is highly unlikely but provided we could restrict Dublin to points only then 3 goals would certainly go a long way towards getting a result. Hard to see it really after Saturday night but sure we live in hope!!!
In some quarters the knives are really being sharpened in preparation for the expected hammering by Dublin of this Galway team, but any rational Galway supporter shouldn't be doing likewise.

Aidan O'Rourke's analysis of the lacklustre Galway performance last Saturday night that saw Monaghan go to town on the scoreboard is a balanced criticism of Galway in that it points out the team's current limitations while accepting that Galway have had a good year to date in terms of trying to make the progression from a perennial Division Two outfit into one that is trying to get back to the business end of things. Hard to argue against this kind of proper, measured analysis:
Galway's flaws exposed - and there's no quick fix
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0806/983414-galways-flaws-exposed-and-theres-no-quick-fix/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0806/983414-galways-flaws-exposed-and-theres-no-quick-fix/)

Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 07, 2018, 12:01:24 PM
3 goals at delicate Junctures would beat the Dubz.
Galway's current scoring return on goals (ignore the Sligo match) in the championship this year suggests that is highly unlikely but provided we could restrict Dublin to points only then 3 goals would certainly go a long way towards getting a result. Hard to see it really after Saturday night but sure we live in hope!!!
In some quarters the knives are really being sharpened in preparation for the expected hammering by Dublin of this Galway team, but any rational Galway supporter shouldn't be doing likewise.

Aidan O'Rourke's analysis of the lacklustre Galway performance last Saturday night that saw Monaghan go to town on the scoreboard is a balanced criticism of Galway in that it points out the team's current limitations while accepting that Galway have had a good year to date in terms of trying to make the progression from a perennial Division Two outfit into one that is trying to get back to the business end of things. Hard to argue against this kind of proper, measured analysis:
Galway's flaws exposed - and there's no quick fix
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0806/983414-galways-flaws-exposed-and-theres-no-quick-fix/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0806/983414-galways-flaws-exposed-and-theres-no-quick-fix/)
At the start of the year everyone would have taken League final and all Ireland semi plus beating Kerry in CP. If they aren’t at Dublin’s level the next day , so what? Nobody else is either. The big prize is when Dublin lose the plot as all great teams do. Who will be standing then?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: galwayman on August 07, 2018, 12:22:42 PM
3 goals at delicate Junctures would beat the Dubz.
Galway's current scoring return on goals (ignore the Sligo match) in the championship this year suggests that is highly unlikely but provided we could restrict Dublin to points only then 3 goals would certainly go a long way towards getting a result. Hard to see it really after Saturday night but sure we live in hope!!!
In some quarters the knives are really being sharpened in preparation for the expected hammering by Dublin of this Galway team, but any rational Galway supporter shouldn't be doing likewise.

Aidan O'Rourke's analysis of the lacklustre Galway performance last Saturday night that saw Monaghan go to town on the scoreboard is a balanced criticism of Galway in that it points out the team's current limitations while accepting that Galway have had a good year to date in terms of trying to make the progression from a perennial Division Two outfit into one that is trying to get back to the business end of things. Hard to argue against this kind of proper, measured analysis:
Galway's flaws exposed - and there's no quick fix
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0806/983414-galways-flaws-exposed-and-theres-no-quick-fix/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0806/983414-galways-flaws-exposed-and-theres-no-quick-fix/)
Looking forward to Saturday now. Has there been any word on Eoin Kerin's injury? If it is indeed a hamstring tweak he ain't going to be playing any game on Saturday.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 07, 2018, 12:33:12 PM
Looking forward to Saturday now. Has there been any word on Eoin Kerin's injury? If it is indeed a hamstring tweak he ain't going to be playing any game on Saturday.
No new injuries from Saturday is the story at the minute anyway.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: highorlow on August 07, 2018, 01:14:55 PM
If Galway hang in there for 60 minutes and are then still capable of putting pressure on Cluxton for the last ten minutes they are in with a shout.

Still, it’s better Dublin are getting each year so unlikely that Galway will be still in the match with 20 minutes left.

Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 07, 2018, 01:25:31 PM
Even the greatest teams can be taken down

https://youtu.be/RztFiCl_r20
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 07, 2018, 01:27:58 PM
Galway are the only team going in with a loss in their last group game. Can they pick up momentum again? If they can, thet might hang on in there as highorlow said. If not it could end up being ugly.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: The Hill is Blue on August 07, 2018, 02:00:59 PM
The only certainty about next Saturday is that no one knows who will win. However we can be sure that Galway will come out like demons and will fight until the final whistle. My nightmare scenario is that Galway will be in a position the run down the clock in last five minutes with Dublin scrambling to get their hands on the ball.

It’s an All Ireland semi final and a two horse race - anything can happen.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 07, 2018, 03:05:46 PM
The only certainty about next Saturday is that no one knows who will win. However we can be sure that Galway will come out like demons and will fight until the final whistle. My nightmare scenario is that Galway will be in a position the run down the clock in last five minutes with Dublin scrambling to get their hands on the ball.

It’s an All Ireland semi final and a two horse race - anything can happen.

Dublin will win its about the margin of victory that no one knows for certain. If it's close Dublin will be in a position the run down the clock in last five minutes with Galway scrambling to get their hands on the ball.

Two horses one a serial winning thoroughbred the other a young horse that needs milk and needs to learn how to jump.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: The Hill is Blue on August 07, 2018, 04:07:02 PM
The only certainty about next Saturday is that no one knows who will win. However we can be sure that Galway will come out like demons and will fight until the final whistle. My nightmare scenario is that Galway will be in a position the run down the clock in last five minutes with Dublin scrambling to get their hands on the ball.

It’s an All Ireland semi final and a two horse race - anything can happen.

Dublin will win its about the margin of victory that no one knows for certain. If it's close Dublin will be in a position the run down the clock in last five minutes with Galway scrambling to get their hands on the ball.

Two horses one a serial winning thoroughbred the other a young horse that needs milk and needs to learn how to jump.

That’s what I thought on All Ireland final day 1992
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 07, 2018, 04:31:05 PM
The only certainty about next Saturday is that no one knows who will win. However we can be sure that Galway will come out like demons and will fight until the final whistle. My nightmare scenario is that Galway will be in a position the run down the clock in last five minutes with Dublin scrambling to get their hands on the ball.

It’s an All Ireland semi final and a two horse race - anything can happen.

Dublin will win its about the margin of victory that no one knows for certain. If it's close Dublin will be in a position the run down the clock in last five minutes with Galway scrambling to get their hands on the ball.

Two horses one a serial winning thoroughbred the other a young horse that needs milk and needs to learn how to jump.

That’s what I thought on All Ireland final day 1992
Dublin's 1992 team and todays team is like chalk and cheese. Dublin went from 1983 to 1995 before winning the All Ireland and the 95 team was probably the worst ever side to win the All Ireland in my lifetime. 
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Syferus on August 07, 2018, 04:42:18 PM
The only certainty about next Saturday is that no one knows who will win. However we can be sure that Galway will come out like demons and will fight until the final whistle. My nightmare scenario is that Galway will be in a position the run down the clock in last five minutes with Dublin scrambling to get their hands on the ball.

It’s an All Ireland semi final and a two horse race - anything can happen.

Dublin will win its about the margin of victory that no one knows for certain. If it's close Dublin will be in a position the run down the clock in last five minutes with Galway scrambling to get their hands on the ball.

Two horses one a serial winning thoroughbred the other a young horse that needs milk and needs to learn how to jump.

That’s what I thought on All Ireland final day 1992

Comparing Dublin 1992 and the monied, AIG and GAA sponsored Dublin 2018 might be the most embarrassing lack of perspective you’ve displayed yet.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 07, 2018, 06:23:49 PM
A Galway win would be like Cork v Kerry 83 or Down v Kerry 91 or Mayo v Kerry 96
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: From the Bunker on August 07, 2018, 09:53:25 PM
A Galway win would be like Cork v Kerry 83 or Down v Kerry 91 or Mayo v Kerry 96

In fairness Kerry 1996 was a very inexperienced team.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: imtommygunn on August 07, 2018, 10:05:08 PM
A Galway win would be like Cork v Kerry 83 or Down v Kerry 91 or Mayo v Kerry 96

Why pick those 3. A galway win would be a big shock.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: galwayman on August 07, 2018, 10:11:00 PM
A Galway win would be like Cork v Kerry 83 or Down v Kerry 91 or Mayo v Kerry 96

In fairness Kerry 1996 was a very inexperienced team.
None of those are in any way comparable.
Dublin have won 5 AIs in 7 years.
None of those 3 Kerry teams were reigning AI champions - in fact two of them hadn’t won Munster in 5 years before that.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: heffo on August 07, 2018, 10:31:05 PM
Paul Flynn to start
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Targetman on August 07, 2018, 10:48:14 PM
A Galway win would be like Cork v Kerry 83 or Down v Kerry 91 or Mayo v Kerry 96
We fully expected to beat Kerry in 91!! No shock there
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 08, 2018, 06:15:55 AM
A Galway win would be like Cork v Kerry 83 or Down v Kerry 91 or Mayo v Kerry 96

In fairness Kerry 1996 was a very inexperienced team.
None of those are in any way comparable.
Dublin have won 5 AIs in 7 years.
None of those 3 Kerry teams were reigning AI champions - in fact two of them hadn’t won Munster in 5 years before that.
The all Ireland context is less important. Beating Dublin is psychological. Mayo couldn't do it. Tyrone couldn't do it. Kerry couldn't do it.
Since the end of the 60s ulster teams lost every time to Munster or Leinster opposition . Connacht teams couldn't manage it either. That was psychological.
Then Down beat Kerry. Everyone neutral expected Kerry to win. Everyone expects Dublin to win the next day.

Champions win in part because of the respect that the opposition gives them. Why do Real win so many Champions League finals ? 

It's interesting for Galway fans because the hurlers are in the incumbent role and the footballers are challenging and the dynamics for both are different.

Clare on Sunday had no problem scoring when 2 points down but they could not get an equalise in the last 10 minutes. 
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: imtommygunn on August 08, 2018, 07:38:03 AM
What about tyrone in 86 and armagh in late 70s?

Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Estimator on August 08, 2018, 09:35:49 AM
What about tyrone in 86 and armagh in late 70s?

Tyrone beat Galway in the ‘86 semi final
Armagh beat Roscommon (after a replay) in the ‘77 semi final.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 08, 2018, 10:40:38 AM
What about tyrone in 86 and armagh in late 70s?
That was just beating Connacht
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Unlaoised on August 08, 2018, 11:20:19 AM
Dublin will beat Galway by 12 points or more !
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 08, 2018, 12:36:26 PM
Dublin will beat Galway by 12 points or more !

I heard that a lot before the league match and then again the league final. Maybe they will this time sure. They are certainly capable of putting a big score on anyone.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 08, 2018, 12:37:54 PM
Galway by two in a low scoring game
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 08, 2018, 01:01:33 PM
Galway by two in a low scoring game

That seems like the prediction of an extremely optimistic Galway supporter as opposed to someone with your username  ???
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 08, 2018, 01:24:33 PM
Galway by two in a low scoring game

That seems like the prediction of an extremely optimistic Galway supporter as opposed to someone with your username  ???

Or just an honest prediction? Or is there some script that I have to say Dublin will win because I have a Mayo username? 🤷🏻‍♀️
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: fearsiuil on August 08, 2018, 01:27:26 PM
Monaghan game last weekend a no-win game for Galway. Play to win and risk players & sharpness for semi-final following weekend. Play a weak team to save for semi-final and risk a hiding. Think Walsh went somewhere in between and still got well beat.

Galway recent history before this year is one of being very inconsistent and a bit watery, they have had a very consistent year up to last weekend which is the game just before their biggest test against the Dubs - the last game you want to go into with any doubts or drop in confidence.

Dubs played a new front 6 vs Roscommon and brought on lads that normally see no action as subs along with defensive & midfield changes. Galway started 12 of usual starting 15 and scored 8 points in total.

Biggest challenge Walsh has is rising Galway players to believe they can win this one. Kick outs were poor in Monaghan game and won't go unnoticed by Galvin. Seems Galway lads on here have a very low expectation and hope to keep the score respectable?

Have my tickets sorted and will be hoping Galway can win this one against the head. My hope is that if they get themselves in same position they did in league final that they will at least have a right cut at winning the match.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 08, 2018, 01:39:26 PM
Biggest challenge Walsh has is rising Galway players to believe they can win this one. Kick outs were poor in Monaghan game and won't go unnoticed by Galvin. Seems Galway lads on here have a very low expectation and hope to keep the score respectable?

Hard for anyone go in confident of beating this Dublin side. You have to play very very well and probably hope that they are a bit off the game on the day. And maybe most importantly you just have to stay in the game for as long as possible. Galway did all that in the league final but probably waited too long to use their bench to give them that extra push for the final 15 minutes. Avoiding Dublin getting in for a couple early goals is paramount because once they get 4 or 5 up it can quickly get out of hand if you have to chase them.

I'll be delighted if nothing much happens for the first 20 minutes and the score is 0-3 to 0-5 or something. Getting Comer more involved would be nice. Dublin couldn't really handle him when Galway got ball into him in the league final but the service dried up as the game went on.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 08, 2018, 01:41:21 PM
Galway by two in a low scoring game

That seems like the prediction of an extremely optimistic Galway supporter as opposed to someone with your username  ???

Or just an honest prediction? Or is there some script that I have to say Dublin will win because I have a Mayo username? 🤷🏻‍♀️

No and I hope you are correct in your prediction. Just a bit surprised as plenty in Mayo are hoping for only one thing from Saturday and it is not a narrow Galway victory!
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 08, 2018, 02:24:47 PM
Galway by two in a low scoring game

That seems like the prediction of an extremely optimistic Galway supporter as opposed to someone with your username  ???

Or just an honest prediction? Or is there some script that I have to say Dublin will win because I have a Mayo username? 🤷🏻‍♀️

No and I hope you are correct in your prediction. Just a bit surprised as plenty in Mayo are hoping for only one thing from Saturday and it is not a narrow Galway victory!

Id rather see Galway win than Dublin, why would I want another Dublin walkover?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Tubberman on August 08, 2018, 02:46:04 PM
Galway by two in a low scoring game

That seems like the prediction of an extremely optimistic Galway supporter as opposed to someone with your username  ???

Or just an honest prediction? Or is there some script that I have to say Dublin will win because I have a Mayo username? 🤷🏻‍♀️

No and I hope you are correct in your prediction. Just a bit surprised as plenty in Mayo are hoping for only one thing from Saturday and it is not a narrow Galway victory!

Id rather see Galway win than Dublin, why would I want another Dublin walkover?

Neither option is palatable, but I know which I'd least prefer!
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 08, 2018, 02:46:40 PM
Galway by two in a low scoring game

That seems like the prediction of an extremely optimistic Galway supporter as opposed to someone with your username  ???

Or just an honest prediction? Or is there some script that I have to say Dublin will win because I have a Mayo username? 🤷🏻‍♀️

No and I hope you are correct in your prediction. Just a bit surprised as plenty in Mayo are hoping for only one thing from Saturday and it is not a narrow Galway victory!
I'm surprised that you should think Mayo won't support the heron chokers. For decades both counties have happily bet the crap out of each other but when one is knocked out of the running, the majority of its followers will row in behind the other one.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Syferus on August 08, 2018, 02:53:34 PM
Dublin will win by however many they want to. If they feel like making a statement they’ll run away with the match when Galway are forced to come out and attack in the final 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: fearsiuil on August 08, 2018, 02:57:28 PM
Galway by two in a low scoring game

That seems like the prediction of an extremely optimistic Galway supporter as opposed to someone with your username  ???

Or just an honest prediction? Or is there some script that I have to say Dublin will win because I have a Mayo username? 🤷🏻‍♀️

No and I hope you are correct in your prediction. Just a bit surprised as plenty in Mayo are hoping for only one thing from Saturday and it is not a narrow Galway victory!
I'm surprised that you should think Mayo won't support the heron chokers. For decades both counties have happily bet the crap out of each other but when one is knocked out of the running, the majority of its followers will row in behind the other one.
Been changing a bit in recent times with more pulling and dragging in all top games now as opposed to man-on-man marking years ago leading to more grounds for fans to be drawn in. Stories of certain Tuam pubs celebrating when Dubs beat Mayo last year, the 3 billboards outside Castlebar this year added to online bullsh1t takes their toll with people taking the extreme as normal.

It used to be all Connacht backing their own....obviously bar the Rossies.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Orchard park on August 08, 2018, 03:03:38 PM
Galway by two in a low scoring game

That seems like the prediction of an extremely optimistic Galway supporter as opposed to someone with your username  ???

Or just an honest prediction? Or is there some script that I have to say Dublin will win because I have a Mayo username? 🤷🏻‍♀️

No and I hope you are correct in your prediction. Just a bit surprised as plenty in Mayo are hoping for only one thing from Saturday and it is not a narrow Galway victory!
I'm surprised that you should think Mayo won't support the heron chokers. For decades both counties have happily bet the crap out of each other but when one is knocked out of the running, the majority of its followers will row in behind the other one.
Been changing a bit in recent times with more pulling and dragging in all top games now as opposed to man-on-man marking years ago leading to more grounds for fans to be drawn in. Stories of certain Tuam pubs celebrating when Dubs beat Mayo last year, the 3 billboards outside Castlebar this year added to online bullsh1t takes their toll with people taking the extreme as normal.

It used to be all Connacht backing their own....obviously bar the Rossies.

What's that shite about  ????
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 08, 2018, 03:03:59 PM
Dublin will win by however many they want to.

What if they want to win by 70?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: rosnarun on August 08, 2018, 03:31:35 PM
I really think Galway have taken the wind out of their own sails by last weeks performance ,
when they looked around for leadership none was coming
had they gone for it they would easilt have beaten monaghan but they just don't seem to realize what a great attacking force they are Walsh Comer Branniagn and burke are as good or better than most in the country but Manager kevin  walshe welsh Walsh has them hide bound with fear .
their only hope v Dublin is an very fast open game and a shootout , which has little change of happening,
as a  result it could be humbling for them
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 08, 2018, 04:12:35 PM
I really think Galway have taken the wind out of their own sails by last weeks performance ,
when they looked around for leadership none was coming
had they gone for it they would easilt have beaten monaghan but they just don't seem to realize what a great attacking force they are Walsh Comer Branniagn and burke is as good or better than most in the country but Manager kevin  walshe welsh Walsh has them hide bound with fear .
their only hope v Dublin is an very fast open game and a shootout , which has little change of happening,
as a  result it could be humbling for them

Corrected that for you.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: hardstation on August 08, 2018, 04:32:51 PM
had they gone for it they would easilt have beaten monaghan
LOL
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 08, 2018, 04:34:02 PM
I really think Galway have taken the wind out of their own sails by last weeks performance ,
when they looked around for leadership none was coming
had they gone for it they would easilt have beaten monaghan but they just don't seem to realize what a great attacking force they are Walsh Comer Branniagn and burke is as good or better than most in the country but Manager kevin  walshe welsh Walsh has them hide bound with fear .
their only hope v Dublin is an very fast open game and a shootout , which has little change of happening,
as a  result it could be humbling for them

Corrected that for you.

Burke has been great. Anyone who can't see what he does doesn't know football IMO. I actually think he's been our best forward during the championship. Walsh very good for the most part. Comer more up and down.

Brannigan was probably our best forward during the league but his shooting especially has gone to pot recently.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 08, 2018, 04:35:40 PM
had they gone for it they would easilt have beaten monaghan
LOL
+1
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Syferus on August 08, 2018, 05:02:45 PM
I really think Galway have taken the wind out of their own sails by last weeks performance ,
when they looked around for leadership none was coming
had they gone for it they would easilt have beaten monaghan but they just don't seem to realize what a great attacking force they are Walsh Comer Branniagn and burke is as good or better than most in the country but Manager kevin  walshe welsh Walsh has them hide bound with fear .
their only hope v Dublin is an very fast open game and a shootout , which has little change of happening,
as a  result it could be humbling for them

Corrected that for you.

Burke has outshone Walsh since underage. Where Walsh makes the wrong decision and the Hollywood point attempt Burke has always made the right one. And frankly Comer is a unique sort of forward that I would take before Walsh even if Galway aren’t utilising him effectively.

Walsh is a lovely striker of the ball but I still think he hasn’t solved the issues with selfish and wasteful play that have always pockmarked his game. Wasn’t he the most wasteful forward in D1 by a massive degree this year? A good showing against the best team that’s ever played the game would go some way towards alleviating those concerns.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: larryin89 on August 08, 2018, 05:30:17 PM
It's very interesting to hear how fellow Mayo people feel about Galway  ,it's definitely split . I'm shouting for them but my Aul fella can't stand the sight of all things Galway for example
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 08, 2018, 05:31:11 PM
Dublin will win by however many they want to. If they feel like making a statement they’ll run away with the match when Galway are forced to come out and attack in the final 20 minutes.
How many in a row will the Dubs win, Syf ?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 08, 2018, 05:33:51 PM
It's very interesting to hear how fellow Mayo people feel about Galway  ,it's definitely split . I'm shouting for them but my Aul fella can't stand the sight of all things Galway for example

It is for sure. After those signs on the side of the road, I hope their all Ireland drought lasts for eternity.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Syferus on August 08, 2018, 05:34:59 PM
Dublin will win by however many they want to. If they feel like making a statement they’ll run away with the match when Galway are forced to come out and attack in the final 20 minutes.
How many in a row will the Dubs win, Syf ?

They’ll win the five in a row unless there is an act of God in the next 12 months.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 08, 2018, 05:46:37 PM
Dublin will win by however many they want to. If they feel like making a statement they’ll run away with the match when Galway are forced to come out and attack in the final 20 minutes.
How many in a row will the Dubs win, Syf ?

They’ll win the five in a row unless there is an act of GO’D on Saturday.

FTFY
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Blowitupref on August 08, 2018, 05:59:36 PM
Last 4 games here is what Galway's main scoring forwards scored in their games.

S Walsh 0-19 (14fs)
D Comer 0-7
I Burke 0-7
E Brannigan  0-2

Hardly the type of scoring from play that will give McMahon,Cooper,McCarthy,O'Sullivan etc sleepiness nights?

Galway's best chance in this game is keeping the Dublin score low and the lower the better if they want to cause a big upset as thats exactly how they have beaten Mayo the last 3 years. Two of those wins Mayo was down to 14 men and their recent wins over Kildare,Kerry they were down to 14 men also so it would probably be no harm to their cause if Dublin was to get one or two sent off this Saturday however 14 man Dublin closed out the league final very well against Galway.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 08, 2018, 07:05:53 PM
I really think Galway have taken the wind out of their own sails by last weeks performance ,
when they looked around for leadership none was coming
had they gone for it they would easilt have beaten monaghan but they just don't seem to realize what a great attacking force they are Walsh Comer Branniagn and burke is as good or better than most in the country but Manager kevin  walshe welsh Walsh has them hide bound with fear .
their only hope v Dublin is an very fast open game and a shootout , which has little change of happening,
as a  result it could be humbling for them

Corrected that for you.

Burke has been great. Anyone who can't see what he does doesn't know football IMO. I actually think he's been our best forward during the championship. Walsh very good for the most part. Comer more up and down.

Brannigan was probably our best forward during the league but his shooting especially has gone to pot recently.

Hmm, I disagree with our opinion so you know nothing John Snow. I lauded Burke previously for his intelligence but his scoring rate is not good enough to be considered as good as if not better than most in the country. Only Walsh would be in the conversation for top 6 forwards in the country.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 08, 2018, 08:19:09 PM
What kind of crowd expected? I assume Dubs will strongly out number Galway
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 08, 2018, 09:16:24 PM
Galway crowd attendance was a disgrace in Salthill last Saturday, I wouldn't expect much better for the next game.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 08, 2018, 09:18:01 PM
Galway crowd attendance was a disgrace in Salthill last Saturday, I wouldn't expect much better for the next game.

Especially with the hurlers in the final soon
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 08, 2018, 10:13:39 PM
I really think Galway have taken the wind out of their own sails by last weeks performance ,
when they looked around for leadership none was coming
had they gone for it they would easilt have beaten monaghan but they just don't seem to realize what a great attacking force they are Walsh Comer Branniagn and burke is as good or better than most in the country but Manager kevin  walshe welsh Walsh has them hide bound with fear .
their only hope v Dublin is an very fast open game and a shootout , which has little change of happening,
as a  result it could be humbling for them

Corrected that for you.

Burke has been great. Anyone who can't see what he does doesn't know football IMO. I actually think he's been our best forward during the championship. Walsh very good for the most part. Comer more up and down.

Brannigan was probably our best forward during the league but his shooting especially has gone to pot recently.

Hmm, I disagree with our opinion so you know nothing John Snow. I lauded Burke previously for his intelligence but his scoring rate is not good enough to be considered as good as if not better than most in the country. Only Walsh would be in the conversation for top 6 forwards in the country.

Burke's assist rate is off the charts though. Up to last week at least he was statistically miles ahead of everyone else in the country in that regard. And he usually chips in with a couple himself.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Dubhaltach on August 08, 2018, 10:49:34 PM
A Galway win would be like Cork v Kerry 83 or Down v Kerry 91 or Mayo v Kerry 96

In fairness Kerry 1996 was a very inexperienced team.
None of those are in any way comparable.
Dublin have won 5 AIs in 7 years.
None of those 3 Kerry teams were reigning AI champions - in fact two of them hadn’t won Munster in 5 years before that.
The all Ireland context is less important. Beating Dublin is psychological. Mayo couldn't do it. Tyrone couldn't do it. Kerry couldn't do it.
Since the end of the 60s ulster teams lost every time to Munster or Leinster opposition . Connacht teams couldn't manage it either. That was psychological.
Then Down beat Kerry. Everyone neutral expected Kerry to win. Everyone expects Dublin to win the next day.

Champions win in part because of the respect that the opposition gives them. Why do Real win so many Champions League finals ? 

It's interesting for Galway fans because the hurlers are in the incumbent role and the footballers are challenging and the dynamics for both are different.

Clare on Sunday had no problem scoring when 2 points down but they could not get an equalise in the last 10 minutes.

eh.. Mayo beat a Dublin team in 2012 that included Cluxton, Cian O’Sullivan; James McCarthy, Flynn, MDMA, Kilkenny, Connolly and Brogan.

As for the game this Sunday, the bad weather that's promised will definitely suit Galway and I think it will be closer than expected. At the same time though, Galway are 11/2 for a reason and it's hard to make a case for them having enough to actually win it. 

 
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: joemamas on August 09, 2018, 01:03:44 AM
I really think Galway have taken the wind out of their own sails by last weeks performance ,
when they looked around for leadership none was coming
had they gone for it they would easilt have beaten monaghan but they just don't seem to realize what a great attacking force they are Walsh Comer Branniagn and burke is as good or better than most in the country but Manager kevin  walshe welsh Walsh has them hide bound with fear .
their only hope v Dublin is an very fast open game and a shootout , which has little change of happening,
as a  result it could be humbling for them

Corrected that for you.

Burke has been great. Anyone who can't see what he does doesn't know football IMO. I actually think he's been our best forward during the championship. Walsh very good for the most part. Comer more up and down.

Brannigan was probably our best forward during the league but his shooting especially has gone to pot recently.

Hmm, I disagree with our opinion so you know nothing John Snow. I lauded Burke previously for his intelligence but his scoring rate is not good enough to be considered as good as if not better than most in the country. Only Walsh would be in the conversation for top 6 forwards in the country.

Burke's assist rate is off the charts though. Up to last week at least he was statistically miles ahead of everyone else in the country in that regard. And he usually chips in with a couple himself.

Was at the game Saturday, thought he had two or three scoring chances in first half from inside 30 yards with wind, he choose to pass.

IMO not decisive enough
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 09, 2018, 07:02:35 AM
Nobody seems to be giving Galway a chance but the sad fact about the state of the game is that Tweedledum and Tweedledee in the other semifinal would not be any better. After 3 and a half months of foostering around with provincials and qualifiers and Super 8s we get to the core problem. The GAA can’t structure competitiveness. Maybe Horse Lawlor’s goal will turn out to be the highlight of the summer with #newbridgeornowhere second.

Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: The Hill is Blue on August 09, 2018, 02:38:38 PM
A Galway win would be like Cork v Kerry 83 or Down v Kerry 91 or Mayo v Kerry 96

In fairness Kerry 1996 was a very inexperienced team.
None of those are in any way comparable.
Dublin have won 5 AIs in 7 years.
None of those 3 Kerry teams were reigning AI champions - in fact two of them hadn’t won Munster in 5 years before that.
The all Ireland context is less important. Beating Dublin is psychological. Mayo couldn't do it. Tyrone couldn't do it. Kerry couldn't do it.
Since the end of the 60s ulster teams lost every time to Munster or Leinster opposition . Connacht teams couldn't manage it either. That was psychological.
Then Down beat Kerry. Everyone neutral expected Kerry to win. Everyone expects Dublin to win the next day.

Champions win in part because of the respect that the opposition gives them. Why do Real win so many Champions League finals ? 

It's interesting for Galway fans because the hurlers are in the incumbent role and the footballers are challenging and the dynamics for both are different.

Clare on Sunday had no problem scoring when 2 points down but they could not get an equalise in the last 10 minutes.

eh.. Mayo beat a Dublin team in 2012 that included Cluxton, Cian O’Sullivan; James McCarthy, Flynn, MDMA, Kilkenny, Connolly and Brogan.

As for the game this Sunday, the bad weather that's promised will definitely suit Galway and I think it will be closer than expected. At the same time though, Galway are 11/2 for a reason and it's hard to make a case for them having enough to actually win it.

This Dublin team has won in all sorts of weather conditions - most notably the 2015 All Ireland final when there was a downpour from start to finish. So I don’t think a wet day would benefit Galway in any way.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 09, 2018, 02:42:36 PM
A Galway win would be like Cork v Kerry 83 or Down v Kerry 91 or Mayo v Kerry 96

In fairness Kerry 1996 was a very inexperienced team.
None of those are in any way comparable.
Dublin have won 5 AIs in 7 years.
None of those 3 Kerry teams were reigning AI champions - in fact two of them hadn’t won Munster in 5 years before that.
The all Ireland context is less important. Beating Dublin is psychological. Mayo couldn't do it. Tyrone couldn't do it. Kerry couldn't do it.
Since the end of the 60s ulster teams lost every time to Munster or Leinster opposition . Connacht teams couldn't manage it either. That was psychological.
Then Down beat Kerry. Everyone neutral expected Kerry to win. Everyone expects Dublin to win the next day.

Champions win in part because of the respect that the opposition gives them. Why do Real win so many Champions League finals ? 

It's interesting for Galway fans because the hurlers are in the incumbent role and the footballers are challenging and the dynamics for both are different.

Clare on Sunday had no problem scoring when 2 points down but they could not get an equalise in the last 10 minutes.

eh.. Mayo beat a Dublin team in 2012 that included Cluxton, Cian O’Sullivan; James McCarthy, Flynn, MDMA, Kilkenny, Connolly and Brogan.

As for the game this Sunday, the bad weather that's promised will definitely suit Galway and I think it will be closer than expected. At the same time though, Galway are 11/2 for a reason and it's hard to make a case for them having enough to actually win it.

This Dublin team has won in all sorts of weather conditions - most notably the 2015 All Ireland final when there was a downpour from start to finish. So I don’t think a wet day would benefit Galway in any way.

I presume he means a wet day often keeps the score down so games tend to be closer in the wet.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: The Hill is Blue on August 09, 2018, 02:46:40 PM
A Galway win would be like Cork v Kerry 83 or Down v Kerry 91 or Mayo v Kerry 96

In fairness Kerry 1996 was a very inexperienced team.
None of those are in any way comparable.
Dublin have won 5 AIs in 7 years.
None of those 3 Kerry teams were reigning AI champions - in fact two of them hadn’t won Munster in 5 years before that.
The all Ireland context is less important. Beating Dublin is psychological. Mayo couldn't do it. Tyrone couldn't do it. Kerry couldn't do it.
Since the end of the 60s ulster teams lost every time to Munster or Leinster opposition . Connacht teams couldn't manage it either. That was psychological.
Then Down beat Kerry. Everyone neutral expected Kerry to win. Everyone expects Dublin to win the next day.

Champions win in part because of the respect that the opposition gives them. Why do Real win so many Champions League finals ? 

It's interesting for Galway fans because the hurlers are in the incumbent role and the footballers are challenging and the dynamics for both are different.

Clare on Sunday had no problem scoring when 2 points down but they could not get an equalise in the last 10 minutes.

eh.. Mayo beat a Dublin team in 2012 that included Cluxton, Cian O’Sullivan; James McCarthy, Flynn, MDMA, Kilkenny, Connolly and Brogan.

As for the game this Sunday, the bad weather that's promised will definitely suit Galway and I think it will be closer than expected. At the same time though, Galway are 11/2 for a reason and it's hard to make a case for them having enough to actually win it.

This Dublin team has won in all sorts of weather conditions - most notably the 2015 All Ireland final when there was a downpour from start to finish. So I don’t think a wet day would benefit Galway in any way.

I presume he means a wet day often keeps the score down so games tend to be closer in the wet.

A fair point.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: easytiger95 on August 09, 2018, 03:03:35 PM
I remember us destroying Tyrone in a downpour in 2011.

And, to be fair, I remember them destroying us in a similar downpour in 2008.

This will be tighter then people think.

Dubs not the force of before, specifically 2015/2016 which I think will be seen as the high water mark of Gavin's reign.

Still should win here, but whoever comes out of the other semi has a big chance in the final.

Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 09, 2018, 03:22:26 PM
I remember us destroying Tyrone in a downpour in 2011.

And, to be fair, I remember them destroying us in a similar downpour in 2008.

This will be tighter then people think.

Dubs not the force of before, specifically 2015/2016 which I think will be seen as the high water mark of Gavin's reign.

Still should win here, but whoever comes out of the other semi has a big chance in the final.
If the Dubs win the final will be a turkey shoot.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Zulu on August 09, 2018, 03:44:40 PM
On what basis are you predicting that? Nothing we've seen suggests Galway are significantly better than Monaghan or Tyrone and Dublin usually just get over the line in finals. Odd that you seem to give Galway a good chance this weekend yet expect Monaghan or Tyrone to be hammered. Can't see any logic in that line of thought.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 09, 2018, 04:31:15 PM
I remember us destroying Tyrone in a downpour in 2011.

And, to be fair, I remember them destroying us in a similar downpour in 2008.

This will be tighter then people think.

Dubs not the force of before, specifically 2015/2016 which I think will be seen as the high water mark of Gavin's reign.

Still should win here, but whoever comes out of the other semi has a big chance in the final.


Are you sure about that?

2015 beat Mayo by after a replay in the semi final and beat Kerry by 3 point in a drab AI final
2016 Beat Kerry by 2 points in the semi final and beat Mayo by one in the AI final after a replay

Kerry and Mayo are now in transition while I don't think we have seen the best of Dublin yet especially in AI final.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 09, 2018, 04:33:11 PM
On what basis are you predicting that? Nothing we've seen suggests Galway are significantly better than Monaghan or Tyrone and Dublin usually just get over the line in finals. Odd that you seem to give Galway a good chance this weekend yet expect Monaghan or Tyrone to be hammered. Can't see any logic in that line of thought.
I'm not seeing that process of thought either, more of a chance to be two turkey shoots if anything.
I think Dublin have been absolutely cruising through the championship, I'd be very worried they are just getting to hitting their peak for this weekend and the final.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: easytiger95 on August 09, 2018, 05:14:33 PM
I remember us destroying Tyrone in a downpour in 2011.

And, to be fair, I remember them destroying us in a similar downpour in 2008.

This will be tighter then people think.

Dubs not the force of before, specifically 2015/2016 which I think will be seen as the high water mark of Gavin's reign.

Still should win here, but whoever comes out of the other semi has a big chance in the final.


Are you sure about that?

2015 beat Mayo by after a replay in the semi final and beat Kerry by 3 point in a drab AI final
2016 Beat Kerry by 2 points in the semi final and beat Mayo by one in the AI final after a replay

Kerry and Mayo are now in transition while I don't think we have seen the best of Dublin yet especially in AI final.

The three point win over Kerry in that "drab" game was our most dominant performance in an All Ireland final this decade (and also our most dominant performance over Kerry)

2016 semi final against Kerry was up there with the 2013 semi as one of the games of the decade - after that, I believe Mayo were unlucky not to get the win in the first game in 2016, and I don't think since then we have produced a performance to match Kerry 2015/2016 (I really think that the semi last year v tyrone was as much them not performing as it was us being good).



Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 09, 2018, 05:22:55 PM
On what basis are you predicting that? Nothing we've seen suggests Galway are significantly better than Monaghan or Tyrone and Dublin usually just get over the line in finals. Odd that you seem to give Galway a good chance this weekend yet expect Monaghan or Tyrone to be hammered. Can't see any logic in that line of thought.
I think the other semi is the weaker half. Tyrone are missing something and Monaghan did well to get to a semi.
Galway beat Mayo and Kerry who were ranked 2 and 3 earlier in the championship. I don’t think rd 3 is relevant. Galway maybe have a 3/1 chance . If everything goes well you never know.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: hardstation on August 09, 2018, 05:55:42 PM
On what basis are you predicting that? Nothing we've seen suggests Galway are significantly better than Monaghan or Tyrone and Dublin usually just get over the line in finals. Odd that you seem to give Galway a good chance this weekend yet expect Monaghan or Tyrone to be hammered. Can't see any logic in that line of thought.
I think the other semi is the weaker half. Tyrone are missing something and Monaghan did well to get to a semi.
Galway beat Mayo and Kerry who were ranked 2 and 3 earlier in the championship. I don’t think rd 3 is relevant. Galway maybe have a 3/1 chance . If everything goes well you never know.
Seafóid.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 09, 2018, 06:02:36 PM
On what basis are you predicting that? Nothing we've seen suggests Galway are significantly better than Monaghan or Tyrone and Dublin usually just get over the line in finals. Odd that you seem to give Galway a good chance this weekend yet expect Monaghan or Tyrone to be hammered. Can't see any logic in that line of thought.
I think the other semi is the weaker half. Tyrone are missing something and Monaghan did well to get to a semi.
Galway beat Mayo and Kerry who were ranked 2 and 3 earlier in the championship. I don’t think rd 3 is relevant. Galway maybe have a 3/1 chance . If everything goes well you never know.

Where teams was ranked at the start of the year is not relevant now. If Galway was playing Tyrone this weekend they would be underdogs with the bookies. Galway like Monaghan did well to get to a semi final this summer.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Rossfan on August 09, 2018, 06:33:41 PM
Hard to see anything other than a Dublin win by 6 or more.
I expect Galway will keep them dacent for about 45/50 minutes but will then be overran.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 09, 2018, 09:12:37 PM
What counts is next year and beyond and getting enough experience this year to kick on. The Dubs will fall apart at some stage. Will Kerry and Mayo be ready? Monaghan probably won’t. Tyrone- depends on what happens this year. Donegal might be around. Galway might be too.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Aaron Boone on August 09, 2018, 10:59:32 PM
What counts is next year and beyond and getting enough experience this year to kick on. The Dubs will fall apart at some stage. Will Kerry and Mayo be ready? Monaghan probably won’t. Tyrone- depends on what happens this year. Donegal might be around. Galway might be too.
It’s probably fair enough to be talking about next year already, Dublin’s 5-in-a-row bid will garner huge media interest. Listen it’ll be Kerry or no-one to stop them. Certainly won’t be Offaly like ‘82.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 09, 2018, 11:09:23 PM
Any team news?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Syferus on August 09, 2018, 11:29:48 PM
What counts is next year and beyond and getting enough experience this year to kick on. The Dubs will fall apart at some stage. Will Kerry and Mayo be ready? Monaghan probably won’t. Tyrone- depends on what happens this year. Donegal might be around. Galway might be too.
It’s probably fair enough to be talking about next year already, Dublin’s 5-in-a-row bid will garner huge media interest. Listen it’ll be Kerry or no-one to stop them. Certainly won’t be Offaly like ‘82.

Have a look at Kerry. Now come back. Now delete that part.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: sid waddell on August 10, 2018, 01:46:56 AM
Galway beat Kerry in the rain at Croke Park less than four weeks ago. They drew with Dublin in the league. They pushed Dublin pretty close in the league final at Croke Park. They've beaten Mayo consistently over the last three seasons.

These are results that people should be looking at, not last Saturday's, a game where one team would sort of have liked to have won, and the other team was willing to give up everything to win.

On an individual level none of Dublin's forwards fired that well against Donegal or Tyrone and there is no Connolly.

Of course there's a chance it all comes crashing down for Galway this Saturday, there's always that chance when you're playing Dublin, but I wouldn't bank on it being easy.

There's a real element of nobody giving Galway a chance here, either in Dublin, Galway or anywhere else. It's not like last year when most people thought Tyrone had a serious chance of winning and Dublin were affronted by the confidence the media and the public had in Tyrone.

That type of thing shouldn't matter but it can make a difference.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 10, 2018, 09:00:51 AM
Pundits such as Colm O’Rourke,Joe Brolly, Tomás Ó Sé and Dara Ó Sé have all written articles over the course of the season about how good Shay Walsh is, how restrictive the defensive system is and how the forwards should be let loose. Maybe this weekend may be the time to scaoil amach an bobailín
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Tubberman on August 10, 2018, 09:14:10 AM
Pundits such as Colm O’Rourke,Joe Brolly, Tomás Ó Sé and Dara Ó Sé have all written articles over the course of the season about how good Shay Walsh is, how restrictive the defensive system is and how the forwards should be let loose. Maybe this weekend may be the time to scaoil amach an bobailín


Shay Walsh is from the next village over, and played 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: spuds on August 10, 2018, 09:27:34 AM
Pundits such as Colm O’Rourke,Joe Brolly, Tomás Ó Sé and Dara Ó Sé have all written articles over the course of the season about how good Shay Walsh is, how restrictive the defensive system is and how the forwards should be let loose. Maybe this weekend may be the time to scaoil amach an bobailín


Shay Walsh is from the next village over, and played 20 years ago.
;D

Best of luck to Galway tomorrow. Bookies (PP) have Dublin 1/7, 14/1 draw and Galway 11/2.

Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 10, 2018, 10:03:00 AM
Pundits such as Colm O’Rourke,Joe Brolly, Tomás Ó Sé and Dara Ó Sé have all written articles over the course of the season about how good Shay Walsh is, how restrictive the defensive system is and how the forwards should be let loose. Maybe this weekend may be the time to scaoil amach an bobailín


Shay Walsh is from the next village over, and played 20 years ago.
Effin iPhones
Shane is better as well
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: TheGreatest on August 10, 2018, 11:51:22 AM
Pundits such as Colm O’Rourke,Joe Brolly, Tomás Ó Sé and Dara Ó Sé have all written articles over the course of the season about how good Shay Walsh is, how restrictive the defensive system is and how the forwards should be let loose. Maybe this weekend may be the time to scaoil amach an bobailín


Shay Walsh is from the next village over, and played 20 years ago.
;D

Best of luck to Galway tomorrow. Bookies (PP) have Dublin 1/7, 14/1 draw and Galway 11/2.

31 V 1.

A mayo man, suffered more defeats to Galway than Dublin through history.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: mouview on August 10, 2018, 12:30:16 PM
Pundits such as Colm O’Rourke,Joe Brolly, Tomás Ó Sé and Dara Ó Sé have all written articles over the course of the season about how good Shay Walsh is, how restrictive the defensive system is and how the forwards should be let loose. Maybe this weekend may be the time to scaoil amach an bobailín


Shay Walsh is from the next village over, and played 20 years ago.
;D

Best of luck to Galway tomorrow. Bookies (PP) have Dublin 1/7, 14/1 draw and Galway 11/2.

31 V 1.

A mayo man, suffered more defeats to Galway than Dublin through history.

They've had their equal (almost absolutely) share of victories over Galway also, and none of the defeats have hardly been as heartbreaking as this decade's at the hands of the Dubs.

I really think Galway were being held back last Saturday, and will go at it all guns blazing tomorrow. Whether twill be enough, I don't expect so, but they have a punchers chance perhaps. Really need Michael Daly, for his scoring ability, to play well but I'm unsure how fit he will be. Brannigan's form has been regressing during the championship - oh to have a player of superior ability like Ml. Farragher to call on. I've consistently held the view also that we need one more managerial iteration to finally get the best of this team, but hopefully KW will have disproven that theory by 6.30ish pm amarach.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: galwayman on August 10, 2018, 12:37:09 PM
Hmmm I dunno - Farragher played several games in 2013 and was poor enough in them.
Also in the league final last year (albeit at centre back) he wasn’t good nor when he came on against Kerry.
A full league campaign would tell the tale with him I guess.
If Corofin win Connacht again that won’t happen next year tho
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 10, 2018, 01:31:27 PM
Pundits such as Colm O’Rourke,Joe Brolly, Tomás Ó Sé and Dara Ó Sé have all written articles over the course of the season about how good Shay Walsh is, how restrictive the defensive system is and how the forwards should be let loose. Maybe this weekend may be the time to scaoil amach an bobailín


Shay Walsh is from the next village over, and played 20 years ago.
;D

Best of luck to Galway tomorrow. Bookies (PP) have Dublin 1/7, 14/1 draw and Galway 11/2.

31 V 1.

A mayo man, suffered more defeats to Galway than Dublin through history.

They've had their equal (almost absolutely) share of victories over Galway also, and none of the defeats have hardly been as heartbreaking as this decade's at the hands of the Dubs.

I really think Galway were being held back last Saturday, and will go at it all guns blazing tomorrow. Whether twill be enough, I don't expect so, but they have a punchers chance perhaps. Really need Michael Daly, for his scoring ability, to play well but I'm unsure how fit he will be. Brannigan's form has been regressing during the championship - oh to have a player of superior ability like Ml. Farragher to call on. I've consistently held the view also that we need one more managerial iteration to finally get the best of this team, but hopefully KW will have disproven that theory by 6.30ish pm amarach.
I also think they were held back and will be different. Plus Galway football as a franchise doesn’t get much recognition at 7/1. The last day does not matter.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Duine Eile on August 10, 2018, 01:35:34 PM


I really think Galway were being held back last Saturday, and will go at it all guns blazing tomorrow. Whether twill be enough, I don't expect so, but they have a punchers chance perhaps. Really need Michael Daly, for his scoring ability, to play well but I'm unsure how fit he will be. Brannigan's form has been regressing during the championship - oh to have a player of superior ability like Ml. Farragher to call on. I've consistently held the view also that we need one more managerial iteration to finally get the best of this team, but hopefully KW will have disproven that theory by 6.30ish pm amarach.

Agree completely but that's an argument for another day. This team have given us a great year so far, let's see what tomorrow brings.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 10, 2018, 01:40:50 PM
https://www.facebook.com/406048692871923/posts/1627428060733974/

Let’s just put a pin in this and come back to it at about 5.30pm tomorrow...
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: cornetto on August 10, 2018, 01:48:50 PM
Was looking back at last year's final Jesus after such a bad start,mayo fairly came back at them I know mayo came up short but really showed when the press is on they are prone to mistakes like any other.Galway half back line nowhere as good as mayo so whether they can create the chances like mayo did remains to be seen.Galway have Been using the high press second half v ross and second half v kerry and "depress" v monaghan.im hoping it will be as tight as league final but would still have the dubs ahead by 5pts at the finish.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 10, 2018, 01:57:03 PM
Paddy Tally's stay in Galway to be a brief one? I see he's favourite for the Down job.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Syferus on August 10, 2018, 04:49:30 PM
Paddy Tally's stay in Galway to be a brief one? I see he's favourite for the Down job.

Not great for Galway for a coach to be linked to a job mid-season..
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: omagh_gael on August 11, 2018, 12:25:25 AM
Paddy Tally's stay in Galway to be a brief one? I see he's favourite for the Down job.

Bound to be tempting considering the travel involved with the Galway gig
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 11, 2018, 07:40:05 AM
Indo

« It's the tallest of orders for Galway, who haven't beaten Dublin in the championship for 84 years « 

That was the 1934 final. Tull Dunne was on the team. He later managed the 3 in a row. He knew all the codes. A real gentleman as well. I used to go to matches with him
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: urbangael on August 11, 2018, 07:46:59 AM
Predicted attendance for today's game? Will Galway travel or save themselves for the hurling. Can't see any more than 60k
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: The Hill is Blue on August 11, 2018, 07:52:30 AM
Indo

« It's the tallest of orders for Galway, who haven't beaten Dublin in the championship for 84 years «

That was the 1934 final. Tull Dunne was on the team. He later managed the 3 in a row. He knew all the codes. A real gentleman as well. I used to go to matches with him

So the big day has arrived and I haven’t a clue who will win. Looking at the weather forecast I expect to get soaked on the Hill, but once the game starts you don’t notice the rain. Good luck to all Galway’s travelling fans - enjoy the day. Nothing has yet been won or lost - the slate is still clean.


COYBIB
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on August 11, 2018, 08:27:10 AM
Looking forward to a fully committed performance out of our lads today.  Will our best be good enough?  Probably not, but would like to see us in with a shout around the 60 min mark and see where it takes us.  Best of luck to both Galway teams in action later. 
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: tippabu on August 11, 2018, 09:41:31 AM
Expecting a comfortable dublin win today (surprise surprise), Conroy a big loss for galway and dublin should dominate at midfield. would be great to be wrong. Very strange build up to this weekend, there seems to be no hype or build up at all
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Rossfan on August 11, 2018, 11:02:59 AM
I suppose with no break between the last round of Quarter Finals  and both Semis same weekend the sense of occasion is well diluted.
Hope Galway make a game if it anyway but remember they scored 0-16 against us while Dublin and Tyrone hit 4-24 each.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 11, 2018, 11:21:53 AM
The Galway team to play Dublin in Croke Park on Saturday August 11th has been announced

1-Ruairí Lavelle

2-Declan Kyne

3-Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh

4-Eoghan Kerin

5-Cathal Sweeney

6-Gareth Bradshaw

7-Gary O’Donnell

8-Peter Cooke

9-Thomas Flynn

10-Shane Walsh

11-Patrick Sweeney

12-Seán Kelly

13-Ian Burke

14-Damien Comer

15-Eamonn Brannigan
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Syferus on August 11, 2018, 11:52:56 AM
God save those poor lads.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: tippabu on August 11, 2018, 11:56:28 AM
Has the dublin team been named yet? Think for myself it adds to the lack of buzz around these games that ive not even noticed anything about team announcements until now.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: The Hill is Blue on August 11, 2018, 12:29:20 PM
Dubs team

https://www.dublingaa.ie/news/team-chosen-for-all-ireland-semi-against-the-tribesmen
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: galwayman on August 11, 2018, 12:38:55 PM
The Galway team to play Dublin in Croke Park on Saturday August 11th has been announced

1-Ruairí Lavelle

2-Declan Kyne

3-Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh

4-Eoghan Kerin

5-Cathal Sweeney

6-Gareth Bradshaw

7-Gary O’Donnell

8-Peter Cooke

9-Thomas Flynn

10-Shane Walsh

11-Patrick Sweeney

12-Seán Kelly

13-Ian Burke

14-Damien Comer

15-Eamonn Brannigan
There is zero chance of Patrick Sweeney starting this game.
Heaney will play anyway & possibly there will be one or two other changes.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 11, 2018, 12:41:57 PM
If I were Kevin Walsh I’d genuinely send Galway out to the hill like Mayo in ‘06. Galway aren’t expected to win, nothing to lose, get into their heads early. Send somebody into Cluxton with a heavy shoulder rattle him early.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 11, 2018, 12:42:41 PM
God save those poor lads.
It isn’t Roscommon.
A decent performance today and there could be a Sam down the road.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Syferus on August 11, 2018, 12:53:20 PM
Today is a bit of a non-event and I have incredible reservations about how they have created this machine but this is such a wonderful group of footballers in Dublin. They play the sport with a smoothness that I’ve never seen before. Literally the best that has ever played the sport.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 11, 2018, 01:07:53 PM
The Galway team to play Dublin in Croke Park on Saturday August 11th has been announced

1-Ruairí Lavelle

2-Declan Kyne

3-Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh

4-Eoghan Kerin

5-Cathal Sweeney

6-Gareth Bradshaw

7-Gary O’Donnell

8-Peter Cooke

9-Thomas Flynn

10-Shane Walsh

11-Patrick Sweeney

12-Seán Kelly

13-Ian Burke

14-Damien Comer

15-Eamonn Brannigan
There is zero chance of Patrick Sweeney starting this game.
Heaney will play anyway & possibly there will be one or two other changes.

He might start and Heaney replace O'Donnell instead. Fit again Ciaran Duggan could be given a start in place of Sweeney. Will be at least 2 changes on that Dublin team named to start also.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 11, 2018, 01:12:07 PM
The Galway team to play Dublin in Croke Park on Saturday August 11th has been announced

1-Ruairí Lavelle

2-Declan Kyne

3-Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh

4-Eoghan Kerin

5-Cathal Sweeney

6-Gareth Bradshaw

7-Gary O’Donnell

8-Peter Cooke

9-Thomas Flynn

10-Shane Walsh

11-Patrick Sweeney

12-Seán Kelly

13-Ian Burke

14-Damien Comer

15-Eamonn Brannigan
There is zero chance of Patrick Sweeney starting this game.
Heaney will play anyway & possibly there will be one or two other changes.

He might start and Heaney replace O'Donnell instead. Fit again Ciaran Duggan could be given a start in place of Sweeney. Will be at least 2 changes on that Dublin team named to start also.

Micheal Daly has to start surely?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 11, 2018, 01:18:27 PM
The Galway team to play Dublin in Croke Park on Saturday August 11th has been announced

1-Ruairí Lavelle

2-Declan Kyne

3-Seán Andy Ó Ceallaigh

4-Eoghan Kerin

5-Cathal Sweeney

6-Gareth Bradshaw

7-Gary O’Donnell

8-Peter Cooke

9-Thomas Flynn

10-Shane Walsh

11-Patrick Sweeney

12-Seán Kelly

13-Ian Burke

14-Damien Comer

15-Eamonn Brannigan
There is zero chance of Patrick Sweeney starting this game.
Heaney will play anyway & possibly there will be one or two other changes.

He might start and Heaney replace O'Donnell instead. Fit again Ciaran Duggan could be given a start in place of Sweeney. Will be at least 2 changes on that Dublin team named to start also.

Micheal Daly has to start surely?

Might not be over the hamstring yet.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 11, 2018, 01:38:37 PM
I can’t see anything bar a comfortable Dublin win.
They will do just about enough to get over this hurdle and allow them concentrate on the next step in the inevitable process that will see Clucko waving Sam in the air for the benefit of the loyal fans, give his usual “ A Chairde Gaeil”  speech and then it will be back to business as usual. Business means planning for next September when Cluxton or possibly someone else will go through that same routine one more time.
Dublin may well be beaten once in a while- after all in a game of 15 against 15, when the two best teams in the county meet, there is always the possibility of a shock, a la Donegal in 2014.
I think one of the guiding lights behind their Blue Wave initiative got it right when he figured that Dublin could realistically expect 3 out of every 5  Sams in any given period from now on.
I expect that this is a conservative estimate of what will happen- as time goes on and the social and economic gap between Dublin and the rest widens, that imbalance will get even more lopsided.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 01:44:58 PM
If I were Kevin Walsh I’d genuinely send Galway out to the hill like Mayo in ‘06. Galway aren’t expected to win, nothing to lose, get into their heads early. Send somebody into Cluxton with a heavy shoulder rattle him early.
Comparing apples to oranges. Dublin 2006 was very flaky and their supporters had to watch that flakiness until they reached All Ireland final in 2011 their first final since 1995.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: MayomaninRos on August 11, 2018, 02:03:36 PM
If I were Kevin Walsh I’d genuinely send Galway out to the hill like Mayo in ‘06. Galway aren’t expected to win, nothing to lose, get into their heads early. Send somebody into Cluxton with a heavy shoulder rattle him early.

Even if they wanted to they won't be allowed to do that. Dublin will be scheduled to come out before Galway.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 11, 2018, 02:13:52 PM
If I were Kevin Walsh I’d genuinely send Galway out to the hill like Mayo in ‘06. Galway aren’t expected to win, nothing to lose, get into their heads early. Send somebody into Cluxton with a heavy shoulder rattle him early.

Even if they wanted to they won't be allowed to do that. Dublin will be scheduled to come out before Galway.

Come out early, I’m sure you’ll remember Mayo not coming out at the right time against Dublin
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2018, 02:19:24 PM
Could be a hammering session here.. bookies are going for 35 points under/over . Would Galway manage 15 points?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Blowitupref on August 11, 2018, 02:33:38 PM
Could be a hammering session here.. bookies are going for 35 points under/over . Would Galway manage 15 points?

Their average score in the NFL this year was 15 points and in the super 8 it was 14 points per game.  Will be a surprise if Galway score above 15 points today.

Dublin's average score in the NFL this year was 19 points and in the super 8 it was 25 points per game. Unless Galway go ultra defensive i would expect Dublin to score at least 18 to 20 points today.


In summary Galway 15 points Dublin 20 points equals 35 points and bookies spot on.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2018, 02:35:33 PM
Could be a hammering session here.. bookies are going for 35 points under/over . Would Galway manage 15 points?

Their average score in the NFL this year was 15 points and in the super 8 it was 14 points per game.  Will be a surprise if Galway score above 15 points today.

Dublin's average score in the NFL this year was 19 points and in the super 8 it was 25 points per game. Unless Galway go ultra defensive i would expect Dublin to score at least 18 to 20 points today.


In summary Galway 15 points Dublin 20 points equals 35 points and bookies spot on.

Their never to far away!
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: highorlow on August 11, 2018, 03:12:26 PM
Jesus Galway not bringing much support today judging by the minor game.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 11, 2018, 03:30:23 PM
16. oBeoláin
17. Armstrong
18. Cummins
19. Daly
20. Duane
21. Duggan
22. Heaney
23. Molloy
24. FOC
25. Varley
26. Wynne
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 11, 2018, 03:32:53 PM
16. oBeoláin
17. Armstrong
18. Cummins
19. Daly
20. Duane
21. Duggan
22. Heaney
23. Molloy
24. FOC
25. Varley
26. Wynne
Not a bad subs bench
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: MayoBuck on August 11, 2018, 03:37:04 PM
16. oBeoláin
17. Armstrong
18. Cummins
19. Daly
20. Duane
21. Duggan
22. Heaney
23. Molloy
24. FOC
25. Varley
26. Wynne
Not a bad subs bench

What's the story with Heaney being named as a sub. Does anyone think he won't start? Daly will surely start as well as you can't risk bringing on someone with a dodgy hamstring.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 11, 2018, 03:45:47 PM
16. Comerford
17. Andrews
18. Basquel
19. Costello
20. Daly
21. Flynn
22. Lowndes
23. McManamon
24. Murchan
25. O’Gara
26. Small
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 11, 2018, 03:48:28 PM
Jesus Galway not bringing much support today judging by the minor game.

Galway might be the best at underage in Connacht but they have the worst support at underage.

Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: From the Bunker on August 11, 2018, 04:37:28 PM
The poor Gaa banked on Mayo to make the super 8s. Milking their supporters was the main criteria for this gig. Their revenue is a huge loss. Galway supporters are not as foolish with their time and money.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Blowitupref on August 11, 2018, 04:41:48 PM
When is the last time a Dublin AI semi final didn't have 80k at it?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: armaghniac on August 11, 2018, 04:52:41 PM
Michael D doing the handshake at a semi final. Is there an election or something? Or is this the real final?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Over the Bar on August 11, 2018, 04:53:46 PM
When is the last time a Dublin AI semi final didn't have 80k at it?
I dunno but I'd imagine England were probably playing soccer on TV? 
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 04:55:47 PM
Dubs will win easy here.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Blowitupref on August 11, 2018, 05:00:08 PM
Johnny Heaney,Ciaran Duggan,Sean Armstrong all starting for Galway now. Patrick Sweeney,Peter Cooke,Gary O Donnell make way. Two changes for Dublin Eoin Murchan,John Small replace Michael Fitzsimons and Michael Darragh Macauley.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Schkite on August 11, 2018, 05:03:59 PM
Comer needs to step up and have a big game here, haven't been all that impressed with him lately tbh considering the amount of hype about him earlier in the year.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: BennyHarp on August 11, 2018, 05:07:51 PM
It’s ridiculous how much easier Dublin get frees.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jinxy on August 11, 2018, 05:08:43 PM
Mighty goal.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 05:08:59 PM
Cluxton ya dick!! Lol
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Schkite on August 11, 2018, 05:09:04 PM
Good man Comer!

Jaysus what was Cluxton doing
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: armaghniac on August 11, 2018, 05:09:16 PM
Comer needs to step up and have a big game here, haven't been all that impressed with him lately tbh considering the amount of hype about him earlier in the year.

Well he made an impact there!
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Schkite on August 11, 2018, 05:10:36 PM
Comer needs to step up and have a big game here, haven't been all that impressed with him lately tbh considering the amount of hype about him earlier in the year.

Well he made an impact there!

Yep he must have his phone in his sock there!
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 05:12:04 PM
Haha! Dubs are soft at the back.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 05:12:35 PM
Poor pen.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jinxy on August 11, 2018, 05:12:45 PM
Disgraceful that Brannigan took that.
Never scored a goal in the championship ffs!
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Schkite on August 11, 2018, 05:13:06 PM
Well Cluxton redeemed himself pretty quickly!

Terrible penalty, you need to take every one of those chances against Dublin
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: trileacman on August 11, 2018, 05:13:15 PM
Definitely penalty. Shite shot.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 05:14:25 PM
Penalty and 45 missed for Galway they need each and everyone of those scores.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jinxy on August 11, 2018, 05:14:45 PM
Brannigans confidence gone now I'd say.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jinxy on August 11, 2018, 05:17:27 PM
I'm guessing McHugh would normally have been the penalty taker, before Burke effectively replaced him on the team.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Blowitupref on August 11, 2018, 05:21:50 PM
20 mins gone Dublin 0-7 Galway 1-1. Odd game so far.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 11, 2018, 05:22:09 PM
Brannigans confidence gone now I'd say.
This is senior hurling
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 11, 2018, 05:26:14 PM
Dublin should already be outta sign; not such why cooper not playing fullback and The keeper made a total bollocks of the 1st goal
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jinxy on August 11, 2018, 05:26:57 PM
Galway need to get Burke on the ball as much as possible.
Let him go wherever he wants.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: trileacman on August 11, 2018, 05:27:08 PM
Brannigans head is gone. Galway have a good ff line. Dublin look uncomfortable playing their doppelgänger.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 05:29:01 PM
Very soft goal given away by Galway when they have got themselves right back into this game.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 11, 2018, 05:29:49 PM
3 Dublin players overcarried for that goal
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 11, 2018, 05:30:15 PM
Dublin still not the team of old though! That flashy forward line of Flynn; Connolly and Brogan subs or not there; while they always have a weak spot at full bck without O 'Carroll
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: trileacman on August 11, 2018, 05:30:37 PM
Did anyone else hear Dolan saying “very much so” there 5 mins ago. It sent a shiver down my spine.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 05:31:09 PM
Armstrong may as well be sitting where his last shot landed.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Schkite on August 11, 2018, 05:32:47 PM
Galway are going for it a bit more than in other games, which is good to see and they've got some joy out of it. But they're more open in defence as a result. Although they're winning, Dublin still don't look fully at it today, if they were they'd punish Galway more.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Schkite on August 11, 2018, 05:34:03 PM
Did anyone else hear Dolan saying “very much so” there 5 mins ago. It sent a shiver down my spine.

If he mentions malice at all then I'm muting him for good
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jinxy on August 11, 2018, 05:34:48 PM
Shane Walsh should use his pace and go direct.
He'll either draw a free or get a scoring chance.
He's one on one all the time.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 11, 2018, 05:34:59 PM
How much space can a team get? Criminal that lads who train all year are not fit enough to mark their fecking man! Do they see their man run free and think, ‘sure paddy will pick him up’?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: cjx on August 11, 2018, 05:36:26 PM
Dublin 3rd man tackling going un punished got them 4 point  diff (-2 + 2)
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jinxy on August 11, 2018, 05:37:13 PM
Take Sean Armstrong off for his own sake.
Nightmare.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 11, 2018, 05:37:25 PM
How much space can a team get? Criminal that lads who train all year are not fit enough to mark their fecking man! Do they see their man run free and think, ‘sure paddy will pick him up’?
Zonal marking
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 05:38:21 PM
Take Sean Armstrong off for his own sake.
Nightmare.
If he comes out in the 2nd half I’m sending an anonymous letter to Walsh.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: tippabu on August 11, 2018, 05:39:28 PM
Take Sean Armstrong off for his own sake.
Nightmare.

No chance he'll see the 2nd half

Only 2 points in it, everything still to play for but it still just seems like a strange match and atmosphere...doesn't feel like an all or nothing semi final. It's just going through the motions or am I being harsh?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: tippabu on August 11, 2018, 05:39:56 PM
Take Sean Armstrong off for his own sake.
Nightmare.
If he comes out in the 2nd half I’m sending an anonymous letter to Walsh.

Haha
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Blowitupref on August 11, 2018, 05:40:32 PM
HT Dublin 1-9 Galway 1-7. Better side leading but Galway had their chances to lead at the break and might rue those misses yet.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Schkite on August 11, 2018, 05:41:17 PM
Strange sort of a game. The soft goal for Galway then a brutal penalty. A couple of times I thought Dublin would kick on a bit but Galway seem to just about stay in touch.

Dublin are sloppy enough and don't seem to be at it at all today, but I'd still fancy them to pull clear in the last 20 minutes or so.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: trileacman on August 11, 2018, 05:44:12 PM
Take Sean Armstrong off for his own sake.
Nightmare.

No chance he'll see the 2nd half

Only 2 points in it, everything still to play for but it still just seems like a strange match and atmosphere...doesn't feel like an all or nothing semi final. It's just going through the motions or am I being harsh?

Galway still playing with a hangover. The pre-Monaghan Galway would be leading this game by 4 or 5 points.

Dublin are poor. Their conditioning and experience keeping them in it but there’s no star quality or monents of brilliance in the sky blue boys. Factory football in my eyes.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Schkite on August 11, 2018, 05:45:12 PM
Lyster thinks the Comer goal is one of the goals of the summer!  ;D
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Rossfan on August 11, 2018, 05:46:30 PM
Galway have blown about 1-3 at least.
54,700 attendance - crowds dropping rapidly.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jinxy on August 11, 2018, 05:46:47 PM
Galway need momentum and confidence.
Goals give you both of these things.
They have to be ahead going into the last 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 11, 2018, 05:47:11 PM
If Galway could kick a score they’d be ahead here... Brannigan and Armstrong have to come off. If Micheal Daly is anyway fit he has to be on now and if he isn’t he shouldn’t be on the bencj
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jinxy on August 11, 2018, 05:48:13 PM
Take Sean Armstrong off for his own sake.
Nightmare.

No chance he'll see the 2nd half

Only 2 points in it, everything still to play for but it still just seems like a strange match and atmosphere...doesn't feel like an all or nothing semi final. It's just going through the motions or am I being harsh?

Galway still playing with a hangover. The pre-Monaghan Galway would be leading this game by 4 or 5 points.

Dublin are poor. Their conditioning and experience keeping them in it but there’s no star quality or monents of brilliance in the sky blue boys. Factory football in my eyes.

 ;D
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 11, 2018, 05:48:36 PM
Dublin actually very poor the day; with their pick you think they have enough midfielders in the county that they dont have to take McCarthy outta center bck!  And would have found a regular full bck by now@;forward line simply aint the forward line of old!
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Rossfan on August 11, 2018, 05:49:50 PM
Lyster thinks the Comer goal is one of the goals of the summer!  ;D
:D ;D
A biased Galway gobs.....
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jinxy on August 11, 2018, 05:54:01 PM
For anyone who thinks Comer dived for the penalty, watch Cooper's right foot as he comes in to tackle him.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 11, 2018, 05:54:17 PM
Where are all these natural Galway forwards as good as if not better than anything in the country?

Strange game, really lacks intensity. It's an ALL-IRELAND ffs.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 05:55:39 PM
Where would I get a stamp?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jinxy on August 11, 2018, 05:55:48 PM
Not enough Galway support to generate much of an atmosphere.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: tippabu on August 11, 2018, 05:56:13 PM
Take Sean Armstrong off for his own sake.
Nightmare.
If he comes out in the 2nd half I’m sending an anonymous letter to Walsh.

Have your pen and paper out? Shocked at no changes
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: larryin89 on August 11, 2018, 05:56:45 PM
Is the keeper allowed to come off his line before the ball is struck in Gaelic football for a penalty?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 11, 2018, 06:00:33 PM
Somebody tell Kilkenny to go forwards not sideways; possession stats impress nobody; scoring does!
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 11, 2018, 06:01:33 PM
Is the keeper allowed to come off his line before the ball is struck in Gaelic football for a penalty?
No
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 06:02:12 PM
If Murchun and Armstrong both went and sat down it’d be better.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 11, 2018, 06:03:29 PM
Surelt fitzsimmons a better option that the young lad currently in defence; looks over awed the day foreby the fact he pass for the age of the u-17 game before it!
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 11, 2018, 06:03:48 PM
Another free manufactured for Dublin
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 06:04:08 PM
A rare day that Rock is poor on frees.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Blowitupref on August 11, 2018, 06:06:07 PM
46 mins gone Dublin 1-12 Galway 1-8
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 06:07:14 PM
A rare day that Rock is poor on frees.
Poor in general.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 11, 2018, 06:10:14 PM
Galway have decent to good forwards but their defence is poor
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Schkite on August 11, 2018, 06:10:44 PM
Some fetch by Fenton
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jinxy on August 11, 2018, 06:11:27 PM
McCaffrey bullying Heaney on kickouts.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 11, 2018, 06:13:04 PM
Best natural midfielder since the day of O'Se and Tohill before him!
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 11, 2018, 06:13:46 PM
McCaffrey jumped into the midfielder twice, got away with it
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Blowitupref on August 11, 2018, 06:15:19 PM
55 mins gone. Dublin 1-15 Galway 1-10
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: our_fella on August 11, 2018, 06:19:39 PM
Most non-semifinal feeling semifinal ever...  Jesus Christ galway just go for it. Shake off tally defensive shackles. Snore fest
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jinxy on August 11, 2018, 06:19:43 PM
If Dublin play keep-ball for the last 10 minutes I'm writing an anonymous letter to Jim Gavin in my own blood.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 06:20:47 PM
0-9 to 0-3 to Dublin in this 2nd half so far, their bench on a different level to Galway.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 11, 2018, 06:22:00 PM
Galway just launching it in.
Waste of time
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 11, 2018, 06:22:46 PM
Cant remember the last time Dublin played this poor! McMahon very poor the day too,
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 06:22:52 PM
Although they are winning at a canter, I’ve never seen Dublin as sloppy.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Rossfan on August 11, 2018, 06:23:25 PM
Galway n6it at the races this half.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: trileacman on August 11, 2018, 06:23:55 PM
Galway just launching it in.
Waste of time

“Route one” as Spillane would say. A waste of time hitting ball in like that. Dublin playing the running game and running up the scores.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo Mick on August 11, 2018, 06:24:21 PM
Most non-semifinal feeling semifinal ever...  Jesus Christ galway just go for it. Shake off tally defensive shackles. Snore fest

You need the ball to go for it. Galway visibly tiring and while trying hard just are not up to this level yet. Still a decent performance and something to build on. Comer again a disappointment-limited skills.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: gallsman on August 11, 2018, 06:26:51 PM
For all the hype and praise he gets, Comer spends some amount of time throwing himself to the ground.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 11, 2018, 06:27:20 PM
Great point from Comer there; probable only highlight of the day!
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: our_fella on August 11, 2018, 06:29:37 PM
Fluke point from comer.. I reiterate again, comer for all star.. Laughable. Bull in a china shop.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 11, 2018, 06:31:01 PM
Its funny how Galway have had Mayo number past few years but Mayo would have given Dublin plenty to think about the day given how poor they have been!
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: trileacman on August 11, 2018, 06:32:19 PM
The worst thing that happened to Galway was them scoring that goal. They’ve been trying to re-create it ever since and put this match to loss.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: larryin89 on August 11, 2018, 06:32:26 PM
Well now we know no team near as good as Mayo last two years in the country to put it up to Dublin 
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 06:32:44 PM
Blow it up ffs.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on August 11, 2018, 06:33:07 PM
Galway total shambles in 2nd half.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 11, 2018, 06:34:50 PM
The dublin lads of the bench are probably better than the men starting in front of them! 1-24 big scoring for playing so bad!
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jinxy on August 11, 2018, 06:35:02 PM
Mayo can go toe to toe with Dublin because they have a very strong middle third of the field.
They win plenty of possession and the best HB line in the country (when fit) give them an attacking platform.
That plus a freetaker has almost been enough in recent years.
Fancy dan forwards aren't much use when you're getting wiped out around the middle.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Blowitupref on August 11, 2018, 06:35:07 PM
FT Dublin 1-24 Galway 2-12. As i said before the game any chance Galway had they needed to hold Dublin to a low score they didn't and it was fairly routine win for Dublin.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jayop on August 11, 2018, 06:36:17 PM
Be interesting to see if Galway and Walsh get hammered for this the way other teams beat by Dublin were.

Galways lack of accuracy in the first half cost them any chance of winning. Galway had to be ahead at half time to have any hope.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: larryin89 on August 11, 2018, 06:36:49 PM
Its funny how Galway have had Mayo number past few years but Mayo would have given Dublin plenty to think about the day given how poor they have been!

Nowt funny about it , Mayo 16 and 17 peaked for finals , Galway not near that standard , today proved that to people like me who actually thought Galway were capable .
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: highorlow on August 11, 2018, 06:38:49 PM
Galway played like a team that knew they couldn’t win this match. The missed penalty was a big turning point.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 11, 2018, 06:39:01 PM
Tom Flynn been a big plus for Galway this year but he got ate by  Fenton 1st half and McCarthy the 2nd! Walsh probably the only lad to play to his full ability;  Dublin off the boil but Costello; mannion; McCaffery and fenton all good the day@
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 11, 2018, 06:39:31 PM
Dublin just too good. We needed to take nearly all our chances to be close at the end and we missed loads. Hard to see them being stopped in the final. And probably next year too.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jayop on August 11, 2018, 06:42:05 PM
Cluxton starting to look like a human this year. Still better than all but one keeper in the country at the minute but making more errors this year than the last ten combined.

I'm aware I'm grasping at straws here for an Ulster winner.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 11, 2018, 06:44:01 PM
Its funny how Galway have had Mayo number past few years but Mayo would have given Dublin plenty to think about the day given how poor they have been!

Nowt funny about it , Mayo 16 and 17 peaked for finals , Galway not near that standard , today proved that to people like me who actually thought Galway were capable .
It took Mayo 6 years to get to the 2016 standard. This is Galway’s first semi. Mayo are meanwhile banjaxed
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 11, 2018, 06:45:59 PM
Tyrone or Monaghan havent the physical big men to compete round the middle area with Dublin! Mayo with the 2 OSheas; Parsons; Keegan; had the physical power to contest these areas!
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jayop on August 11, 2018, 06:46:59 PM
Won't surprise me at all to see Galway back stronger in the semi final next year if they can learn from that. Mayo on the other hand look badly on the slide.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jayop on August 11, 2018, 06:47:57 PM
Tyrone or Monaghan havent the physical big men to compete round the middle area with Dublin! Mayo with the 2 OSheas; Parsons; Keegan; had the physical power to contest these areas!

And the defenders to go man to man. We simply don't have the players to defend like that and it's pulling players from elsewhere to cover.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: sans pessimism on August 11, 2018, 06:53:12 PM
Dublin in 2nd gear and well below their normal standard
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 11, 2018, 06:53:37 PM
Won't surprise me at all to see Galway back stronger in the semi final next year if they can learn from that. Mayo on the other hand look badly on the slide.

Ah yeah we’ll be there or thereabouts again next year. Lots of talented young players coming through. Difficult to see how the gap to Dublin can be bridged though unless they somehow begin to slide. Which doesn’t seem like it’s happening any time soon. They might even have Connolly back next year.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo Mick on August 11, 2018, 06:57:30 PM
Won't surprise me at all to see Galway back stronger in the semi final next year if they can learn from that. Mayo on the other hand look badly on the slide.

Would not agree that we are on slide and we will be back next year as a force. But Galway have potential to build towards at least reaching an AI final in next 2 or 3 years. They now know the physical and fitness levels they need to reach and they also know the players that are not up to it at this level.  A good year for Galway on the learning curve.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jayop on August 11, 2018, 06:57:42 PM
Won't surprise me at all to see Galway back stronger in the semi final next year if they can learn from that. Mayo on the other hand look badly on the slide.

Ah yeah we’ll be there or thereabouts again next year. Lots of talented young players coming through. Difficult to see how the gap to Dublin can be bridged though unless they somehow begin to slide. Which doesn’t seem like it’s happening any time soon. They might even have Connolly back next year.

Aye I agree. I'm obviously hoping Tyrone win tomorrow anyway but even more so to see if we've managed to close the gap from the hiding we took there last year from them. If we can get closer that will give the likes of Galway great hope that another year can bring it closer. Not at all looking past Monaghan though.

As for Galway I can see ye dominate Connaught for a few years now and be one of the perennials in the semi finals. Especially if they rejig the super 8 to give the provincial winners more of an advantage than they got this year.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jayop on August 11, 2018, 06:59:08 PM
Won't surprise me at all to see Galway back stronger in the semi final next year if they can learn from that. Mayo on the other hand look badly on the slide.

Would not agree that we are on slide and we will be back next year as a force. But Galway have potential to build towards at least reaching an AI final in next 2 or 3 years. They now know the physical and fitness levels they need to reach and they also know the players that are not up to it at this level.  A good year for Galway on the learning curve.

Mick I see maybe one more rattle from the lads that have got ye so close for years before it collapses. Without new players coming in every year its just not possible to stay at your level for ever.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo Border on August 11, 2018, 06:59:34 PM
Its funny how Galway have had Mayo number past few years but Mayo would have given Dublin plenty to think about the day given how poor they have been!

Nowt funny about it , Mayo 16 and 17 peaked for finals , Galway not near that standard , today proved that to people like me who actually thought Galway were capable .
It took Mayo 6 years to get to the 2016 standard. This is Galway’s first semi. Mayo are meanwhile banjaxed
Mayo banjaxed? Is that a fact. Mayo never threw in the towel in such abject fashion as Galway today. Very poor showing for Connacht football.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Crete Boom on August 11, 2018, 07:01:32 PM
Mayo can go toe to toe with Dublin because they have a very strong middle third of the field.
They win plenty of possession and the best HB line in the country (when fit) give them an attacking platform.
That plus a freetaker has almost been enough in recent years.
Fancy dan forwards aren't much use when you're getting wiped out around the middle.

Definitely seems that way but maybe tradition means that Galway's forwards are a bit overrated and Mayo's forwards are underrated? Galway converted something like 14 chances out of 33 created whereas Mayo had a 59% conversion rate in the final last year against the Dubs.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 07:12:50 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 11, 2018, 07:16:27 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

2 to 6 could probably beat each other on any given day. Don’t think there is much difference between that bunch of sides.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Crete Boom on August 11, 2018, 07:26:55 PM
Its funny how Galway have had Mayo number past few years but Mayo would have given Dublin plenty to think about the day given how poor they have been!

Nowt funny about it , Mayo 16 and 17 peaked for finals , Galway not near that standard , today proved that to people like me who actually thought Galway were capable .
It took Mayo 6 years to get to the 2016 standard. This is Galway’s first semi. Mayo are meanwhile banjaxed

2011, Mayo win Connacht and get to semi final beating reigning champions Cork.
2012, Mayo win Connacht and get to final beating reigning champions Dublin.
2013, Mayo win Connacht and get to final beating reigning champions Donegal.
2014, Mayo win Connacht and lose semi final replay against Kerry after extra time.

2016, Galway win Connacht and lose heavily in quarter final to Tipperary.
2017, Galway lose heavily to Ross in Connacht final and go out with a whimper to Kerry in quarter final.
2018, Galway win Connacht, beat Kerry in Croke park but end the season with heavy defeats to Monaghan and Dublin.
2019?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 07:28:01 PM
Won't surprise me at all to see Galway back stronger in the semi final next year if they can learn from that. Mayo on the other hand look badly on the slide.

Would not agree that we are on slide and we will be back next year as a force. But Galway have potential to build towards at least reaching an AI final in next 2 or 3 years. They now know the physical and fitness levels they need to reach and they also know the players that are not up to it at this level.  A good year for Galway on the learning curve.
After reaching back to back All Ireland finals Mayo didn't even reach the last eight this year. That is the very definition of on the slide.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jayop on August 11, 2018, 07:29:43 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

Who's no4?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 07:33:08 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

Who's no4?
Donegal.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: lenny on August 11, 2018, 07:33:37 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

2 to 6 could probably beat each other on any given day. Don’t think there is much difference between that bunch of sides.

I’d say they’re probably number 2 at the moment. We’ll know better after the final.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: twohands!!! on August 11, 2018, 07:36:37 PM
A Stat that looks very relevant in light of Galway's two most lethargic recent performances - they really looked a side that was running on empty in those two games.

Galway had 19 players who played 7 or more games in this year's league campaign ; 13 of the 15 starters today and 4 out of the 6 subs used today were among those 19.

It really looks to me like they need to develop their squad depth in terms of developing it beyond their first 20 players.


Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 11, 2018, 07:47:40 PM
Well done to Dublin on as expected a very comfortable win. So much for the few Dublin fans on here that was trying to build this game up.


Even though some people wanted to ignore it the Galway defensive system malfunctioned last weekend, when you concede 0-16 to Monaghan at home they were always going to concede big score to Dublin today in Croke park and without that set system in place most of Galways defenders look average at best and a bit lost. Tiredness as outlined in twohands post probably played a part in that malfunction though. Anyway Galway can be happy with the progress they made this year and will need to build on that progress now.

Mayo wouldn't have got much closer today, both midfielders would still be out,to many players either out of form or past their best and Mayo's bench is probably not as strong as Galways.

Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 07:49:46 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

2 to 6 could probably beat each other on any given day. Don’t think there is much difference between that bunch of sides.

I’d say they’re probably number 2 at the moment. We’ll know better after the final.
In reality Mayo are still number 2 and probably Kerry number 3, maybe Tyrone. Galway, Monaghan and Donegal are 5, 6 and 7 in no particular order.





Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jayop on August 11, 2018, 07:55:18 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

Who's no4?
Donegal.

Meh. They were more overrated than Galway this year. Easiest route to an Ulster ever and only beat Roscommon in the super 8. They were relegated from d1 while Galway got to the final. I'd have Galway well ahead of them this summer.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 08:01:53 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

Who's no4?
Donegal.

Meh. They were more overrated than Galway this year. Easiest route to an Ulster ever and only beat Roscommon in the super 8. They were relegated from d1 while Galway got to the final. I'd have Galway well ahead of them this summer.

Debatable who was better. League is the league and really it should have been Mayo instead of Donegal relegated. If Donegal and Galway had swapped groups I think Donegal would have reached the semi final and Galway eliminated last weekend.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 08:03:11 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

Who's no4?
Donegal.

Meh. They were more overrated than Galway this year. Easiest route to an Ulster ever and only beat Roscommon in the super 8. They were relegated from d1 while Galway got to the final. I'd have Galway well ahead of them this summer.
Looking at their championship performances vs Galway’s, there is an argument for putting them higher. Walked Ulster, put up a very decent display against the Dubs in Croke Park. Beat Roscommon handier than Galway did in the Hyde.
They were beaten by Dublin & Tyrone in the Super 8s. I don’t think Galway would have qualified had they been on that side. I think Donegal would have qualified on the other side.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 08:04:20 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

2 to 6 could probably beat each other on any given day. Don’t think there is much difference between that bunch of sides.

I’d say they’re probably number 2 at the moment. We’ll know better after the final.
In reality Mayo are still number 2 and probably Kerry number 3, maybe Tyrone. Galway, Monaghan and Donegal are 5, 6 and 7 in no particular order.
No the reality is those two sides are in transition and hope to become number 2 and 3 in the years ahead again.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: straightred on August 11, 2018, 08:05:42 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

i dont know if 5th is fair but for some reason they had been anointed the 2nd best team in the country but events of the last 7 days kills that argument. Very little between tyrone, monaghan and Galway. We'll see how the winners tomorrow get on in the final but i expect they'll make a better fist of it than Galway did today.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: macdanger2 on August 11, 2018, 08:14:14 PM
Disappointing for Galway today but definitely progress from previous years. I think ye need a better manager than Walsh there, I don't think he's good enough to beat Dublin.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: hardstation on August 11, 2018, 08:18:40 PM
Disappointing for Galway today but definitely progress from previous years. I think ye need a better manager than Walsh there, I don't think he's good enough to beat Dublin.
Realistically, the manager is not the problem.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 11, 2018, 08:23:01 PM
Disappointing for Galway today but definitely progress from previous years. I think ye need a better manager than Walsh there, I don't think he's good enough to beat Dublin.

Apparently he's non commital about his future. Rumours Tally might be off to Down so he may decide it's time to let someone else have a go.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 08:23:52 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

2 to 6 could probably beat each other on any given day. Don’t think there is much difference between that bunch of sides.

I’d say they’re probably number 2 at the moment. We’ll know better after the final.
In reality Mayo are still number 2 and probably Kerry number 3, maybe Tyrone. Galway, Monaghan and Donegal are 5, 6 and 7 in no particular order.
No the reality is those two sides are in transition and hope to become number 2 and 3 in the years ahead again.
Knockout football can produce surprise results.

Galway are improving for sure but their ceiling is still lower than Mayo's. Mayo would have run Dublin a lot closer than Galway did today.

Tyrone went out to Laois in Round 2 of the qualifiers in 2006 but it didn't mean Tyrone had suddenly gone away. Meath went out to Offaly in the first round of the Leinster championship in 2000 but they hadn't gone away either. Fermanagh beat Armagh in 2004 but it didn't mean Fermanagh were a better team than Armagh, they just were very slightly better on a given day. Donegal were completely thrashed by Mayo in 2013 but it didn't mean Donegal were no hopers.

Repeat ad infinitum.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 08:38:52 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

2 to 6 could probably beat each other on any given day. Don’t think there is much difference between that bunch of sides.

I’d say they’re probably number 2 at the moment. We’ll know better after the final.
In reality Mayo are still number 2 and probably Kerry number 3, maybe Tyrone. Galway, Monaghan and Donegal are 5, 6 and 7 in no particular order.
No the reality is those two sides are in transition and hope to become number 2 and 3 in the years ahead again.
Knockout football can produce surprise results.

Galway are improving for sure but their ceiling is still lower than Mayo's. Mayo would have run Dublin a lot closer than Galway did today.

Tyrone went out to Laois in Round 2 of the qualifiers in 2006 but it didn't mean Tyrone had suddenly gone away. Meath went out to Offaly in the first round of the Leinster championship in 2000 but they hadn't gone away either. Fermanagh beat Armagh in 2004 but it didn't mean Fermanagh were a better team than Armagh, they just were very slightly better on a given day. Donegal were completely thrashed by Mayo in 2013 but it didn't mean Donegal were no hopers.

Repeat ad infinitum.
None of those sides was in transition like Mayo and Kerry are now. They were caught on the hop and came back stronger the next year. Mayo have been dicing with death a few years now and Kerry were knocked out of the championship in a group system if they remain a top 3 team then they should have finished 1st or 2nd in their group a group that didn't have Dublin or Tyrone in it.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 11, 2018, 08:42:54 PM
Its funny how Galway have had Mayo number past few years but Mayo would have given Dublin plenty to think about the day given how poor they have been!

Nowt funny about it , Mayo 16 and 17 peaked for finals , Galway not near that standard , today proved that to people like me who actually thought Galway were capable .
It took Mayo 6 years to get to the 2016 standard. This is Galway’s first semi. Mayo are meanwhile banjaxed

2011, Mayo win Connacht and get to semi final beating reigning champions Cork.
2012, Mayo win Connacht and get to final beating reigning champions Dublin.
2013, Mayo win Connacht and get to final beating reigning champions Donegal.
2014, Mayo win Connacht and lose semi final replay against Kerry after extra time.

2016, Galway win Connacht and lose heavily in quarter final to Tipperary.
2017, Galway lose heavily to Ross in Connacht final and go out with a whimper to Kerry in quarter final.
2018, Galway win Connacht, beat Kerry in Croke park but end the season with heavy defeats to Monaghan and Dublin.
2019?
I took the first semi as year 1. Could have included 2010 v Longford as well I suppose
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on August 11, 2018, 08:51:22 PM
Well done to the Dubs, much stronger and clinical that us today and deserved victors.   Considering we are just up from D2 it’s been a progressive year overall - a few lads out of their depth today but hopefully a few ready replacements will be available next year.  We go again in 2019 with much more optimism than we had entering 2018!

Well done to the minors, great win today.

Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 08:59:23 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

2 to 6 could probably beat each other on any given day. Don’t think there is much difference between that bunch of sides.

I’d say they’re probably number 2 at the moment. We’ll know better after the final.
In reality Mayo are still number 2 and probably Kerry number 3, maybe Tyrone. Galway, Monaghan and Donegal are 5, 6 and 7 in no particular order.
No the reality is those two sides are in transition and hope to become number 2 and 3 in the years ahead again.
Knockout football can produce surprise results.

Galway are improving for sure but their ceiling is still lower than Mayo's. Mayo would have run Dublin a lot closer than Galway did today.

Tyrone went out to Laois in Round 2 of the qualifiers in 2006 but it didn't mean Tyrone had suddenly gone away. Meath went out to Offaly in the first round of the Leinster championship in 2000 but they hadn't gone away either. Fermanagh beat Armagh in 2004 but it didn't mean Fermanagh were a better team than Armagh, they just were very slightly better on a given day. Donegal were completely thrashed by Mayo in 2013 but it didn't mean Donegal were no hopers.

Repeat ad infinitum.
None of those sides was in transition like Mayo and Kerry are now. They were caught on the hop and came back stronger the next year. Mayo have been dicing with death a few years now and Kerry were knocked out of the championship in a group system if they remain a top 3 team then they should have finished 1st or 2nd in their group a group that didn't have Dublin or Tyrone in it.
Are you seriously telling me you think Mayo 2018 or Kerry 2018 would have surrendered as meekly as Galway did today?

Not. A. Chance.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: trileacman on August 11, 2018, 09:05:02 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

2 to 6 could probably beat each other on any given day. Don’t think there is much difference between that bunch of sides.

I’d say they’re probably number 2 at the moment. We’ll know better after the final.
In reality Mayo are still number 2 and probably Kerry number 3, maybe Tyrone. Galway, Monaghan and Donegal are 5, 6 and 7 in no particular order.
No the reality is those two sides are in transition and hope to become number 2 and 3 in the years ahead again.
Knockout football can produce surprise results.

Galway are improving for sure but their ceiling is still lower than Mayo's. Mayo would have run Dublin a lot closer than Galway did today.

Tyrone went out to Laois in Round 2 of the qualifiers in 2006 but it didn't mean Tyrone had suddenly gone away. Meath went out to Offaly in the first round of the Leinster championship in 2000 but they hadn't gone away either. Fermanagh beat Armagh in 2004 but it didn't mean Fermanagh were a better team than Armagh, they just were very slightly better on a given day. Donegal were completely thrashed by Mayo in 2013 but it didn't mean Donegal were no hopers.

Repeat ad infinitum.
None of those sides was in transition like Mayo and Kerry are now. They were caught on the hop and came back stronger the next year. Mayo have been dicing with death a few years now and Kerry were knocked out of the championship in a group system if they remain a top 3 team then they should have finished 1st or 2nd in their group a group that didn't have Dublin or Tyrone in it.
Are you seriously telling me you think Mayo 2018 or Kerry 2018 would have surrendered as meekly as Galway did today?

Not. A. Chance.

Kerry surrendered very meekly against Galway in Croke Park so I don’t know what your basing this on.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Gmac on August 11, 2018, 09:08:05 PM
Lots of teams just seem to fade away and look like they are not even trying in the second half of matches against Dublin , I’m sure they are trying but they are either out on their feet out of ideas or the dubs slip through the gears and nonchalantly just put them away , very impressive.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 09:10:01 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

2 to 6 could probably beat each other on any given day. Don’t think there is much difference between that bunch of sides.

I’d say they’re probably number 2 at the moment. We’ll know better after the final.
In reality Mayo are still number 2 and probably Kerry number 3, maybe Tyrone. Galway, Monaghan and Donegal are 5, 6 and 7 in no particular order.
No the reality is those two sides are in transition and hope to become number 2 and 3 in the years ahead again.
Knockout football can produce surprise results.

Galway are improving for sure but their ceiling is still lower than Mayo's. Mayo would have run Dublin a lot closer than Galway did today.

Tyrone went out to Laois in Round 2 of the qualifiers in 2006 but it didn't mean Tyrone had suddenly gone away. Meath went out to Offaly in the first round of the Leinster championship in 2000 but they hadn't gone away either. Fermanagh beat Armagh in 2004 but it didn't mean Fermanagh were a better team than Armagh, they just were very slightly better on a given day. Donegal were completely thrashed by Mayo in 2013 but it didn't mean Donegal were no hopers.

Repeat ad infinitum.
None of those sides was in transition like Mayo and Kerry are now. They were caught on the hop and came back stronger the next year. Mayo have been dicing with death a few years now and Kerry were knocked out of the championship in a group system if they remain a top 3 team then they should have finished 1st or 2nd in their group a group that didn't have Dublin or Tyrone in it.
Are you seriously telling me you think Mayo 2018 or Kerry 2018 would have surrendered as meekly as Galway did today?

Not. A. Chance.

Kerry surrendered very meekly against Galway in Croke Park so I don’t know what your basing this on.
Tradition has a lot to do with it.

Kerry were definitely a bit green this year but Kerry teams always, always, always believe they can beat Dublin.

Do Galway teams?



Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 11, 2018, 09:11:25 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

2 to 6 could probably beat each other on any given day. Don’t think there is much difference between that bunch of sides.

I’d say they’re probably number 2 at the moment. We’ll know better after the final.
In reality Mayo are still number 2 and probably Kerry number 3, maybe Tyrone. Galway, Monaghan and Donegal are 5, 6 and 7 in no particular order.
No the reality is those two sides are in transition and hope to become number 2 and 3 in the years ahead again.
Knockout football can produce surprise results.

Galway are improving for sure but their ceiling is still lower than Mayo's. Mayo would have run Dublin a lot closer than Galway did today.

Tyrone went out to Laois in Round 2 of the qualifiers in 2006 but it didn't mean Tyrone had suddenly gone away. Meath went out to Offaly in the first round of the Leinster championship in 2000 but they hadn't gone away either. Fermanagh beat Armagh in 2004 but it didn't mean Fermanagh were a better team than Armagh, they just were very slightly better on a given day. Donegal were completely thrashed by Mayo in 2013 but it didn't mean Donegal were no hopers.

Repeat ad infinitum.
None of those sides was in transition like Mayo and Kerry are now. They were caught on the hop and came back stronger the next year. Mayo have been dicing with death a few years now and Kerry were knocked out of the championship in a group system if they remain a top 3 team then they should have finished 1st or 2nd in their group a group that didn't have Dublin or Tyrone in it.
Are you seriously telling me you think Mayo 2018 or Kerry 2018 would have surrendered as meekly as Galway did today?

Not. A. Chance.

Kerry surrendered very meekly against Galway in Croke Park so I don’t know what your basing this on.
Tradition has a lot to do with it.

Kerry were definitely a bit green this year but Kerry teams always, always, always believe they can beat Dublin.

Do Galway teams?

It’s been a few years since they actually have though
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: trileacman on August 11, 2018, 09:13:08 PM
Another shit show analysis from TSG today again. Imagine how lucky Dublin are. They’re unbeaten in about 20 championship matches because the opposition forgot to “go for it”.

Really hope Spillane pops into the Kerry changing the next day they face Dublin and reminds the lads to win they’ve only really to “let loose” and “give it a lash”.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 09:21:14 PM


It’s been a few years since they actually have though
Maybe, but they've always run them very close, and they've always believed they would win.

Also, Kerry beat Dublin in a league final 16 months ago.

Belief is your starting point if you want to beat Dublin.

That's why, almost inevitably, when Dublin are beaten, it will be Kerry who do it.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2018, 09:22:53 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

2 to 6 could probably beat each other on any given day. Don’t think there is much difference between that bunch of sides.

I’d say they’re probably number 2 at the moment. We’ll know better after the final.
In reality Mayo are still number 2 and probably Kerry number 3, maybe Tyrone. Galway, Monaghan and Donegal are 5, 6 and 7 in no particular order.
No the reality is those two sides are in transition and hope to become number 2 and 3 in the years ahead again.
Knockout football can produce surprise results.

Galway are improving for sure but their ceiling is still lower than Mayo's. Mayo would have run Dublin a lot closer than Galway did today.

Tyrone went out to Laois in Round 2 of the qualifiers in 2006 but it didn't mean Tyrone had suddenly gone away. Meath went out to Offaly in the first round of the Leinster championship in 2000 but they hadn't gone away either. Fermanagh beat Armagh in 2004 but it didn't mean Fermanagh were a better team than Armagh, they just were very slightly better on a given day. Donegal were completely thrashed by Mayo in 2013 but it didn't mean Donegal were no hopers.

Repeat ad infinitum.
None of those sides was in transition like Mayo and Kerry are now. They were caught on the hop and came back stronger the next year. Mayo have been dicing with death a few years now and Kerry were knocked out of the championship in a group system if they remain a top 3 team then they should have finished 1st or 2nd in their group a group that didn't have Dublin or Tyrone in it.
Are you seriously telling me you think Mayo 2018 or Kerry 2018 would have surrendered as meekly as Galway did today?

Not. A. Chance.

Kerry without a doubt they were a shambles in defence. Mayo as pointed out already had so many issues going on that they wouldn't be competitive v Dublin this year either. Dublin's lack of competition has got even weaker this year with Kerry and Mayo in transition.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: sambostar on August 11, 2018, 09:25:43 PM
Dubs are good.

But Kilkenny overcarrying is a joke. He does it nearly every time he’s on the ball. His point just before HT he gets ball takes 4 steps jinks past his man takes another 4 steps and taps over the bar. Not even a hint of a bounce or solo!?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 09:29:07 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

2 to 6 could probably beat each other on any given day. Don’t think there is much difference between that bunch of sides.

I’d say they’re probably number 2 at the moment. We’ll know better after the final.
In reality Mayo are still number 2 and probably Kerry number 3, maybe Tyrone. Galway, Monaghan and Donegal are 5, 6 and 7 in no particular order.
No the reality is those two sides are in transition and hope to become number 2 and 3 in the years ahead again.
Knockout football can produce surprise results.

Galway are improving for sure but their ceiling is still lower than Mayo's. Mayo would have run Dublin a lot closer than Galway did today.

Tyrone went out to Laois in Round 2 of the qualifiers in 2006 but it didn't mean Tyrone had suddenly gone away. Meath went out to Offaly in the first round of the Leinster championship in 2000 but they hadn't gone away either. Fermanagh beat Armagh in 2004 but it didn't mean Fermanagh were a better team than Armagh, they just were very slightly better on a given day. Donegal were completely thrashed by Mayo in 2013 but it didn't mean Donegal were no hopers.

Repeat ad infinitum.
None of those sides was in transition like Mayo and Kerry are now. They were caught on the hop and came back stronger the next year. Mayo have been dicing with death a few years now and Kerry were knocked out of the championship in a group system if they remain a top 3 team then they should have finished 1st or 2nd in their group a group that didn't have Dublin or Tyrone in it.
Are you seriously telling me you think Mayo 2018 or Kerry 2018 would have surrendered as meekly as Galway did today?

Not. A. Chance.

Kerry without a doubt they were a shambles in defence. Mayo as pointed out already had so many issues going on that they wouldn't be competitive v Dublin this year either. Dublin's lack of competition has got even weaker this year with Kerry and Mayo in transition.
Kerry were also a shambles in defence in 2013, 2015 and 2016. Yet Dublin found it very difficult to put them away all three times.

Mayo are not yet "in transition" (a great GAA cliche). The 2018 Mayo panel was basically the same as the 2017 one, with only Alan Dillon retiring in the interim. Barry Moran may well be the only retirement before next year. Dillon and Moran had become very much peripheral players in recent years.

Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: RedHand88 on August 11, 2018, 09:29:32 PM
Lots of teams just seem to fade away and look like they are not even trying in the second half of matches against Dublin , I’m sure they are trying but they are either out on their feet out of ideas or the dubs slip through the gears and nonchalantly just put them away , very impressive.

It's a psychological thing. This aura has been created by the invincible dubs and it eats at the mind of the opposition. We need a team to come along who does not care one iota what Dublin have done in the last few years and who truly believe they can beat any team on their day. Dublin didn't like it when Tyrone went gung ho in omagh and on another day could have been caught.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: larryin89 on August 11, 2018, 09:29:52 PM
The power pace fitness strength & conditioning of Dublin is surreal . Mayo could near enough match them a few times over the last few years , Galway were nowhere near that level today. Maybe it will come I dunno but I'm not so sure it's just a matter of training for all the above ,is it not about the men too. These Dublin guys are exceptional athletes and tough as nails .

Also I'm actually not as convinced Mayo won't be back challenging as soon as next year as I was .That Mayo squad are a very determined bunch who still believe they have it in them for a lash in 2019 . Time will tell but banjaxed might prove to be a term a tad premature. (I've been saying we're cooked since 2014 btw , just get a feeling from what ya hear in the aftermath of newbridge )
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 11, 2018, 09:33:21 PM
For all the Galway hype, you could arguably place them as the 5th best team in Ireland.

2 to 6 could probably beat each other on any given day. Don’t think there is much difference between that bunch of sides.

I’d say they’re probably number 2 at the moment. We’ll know better after the final.
In reality Mayo are still number 2 and probably Kerry number 3, maybe Tyrone. Galway, Monaghan and Donegal are 5, 6 and 7 in no particular order.
No the reality is those two sides are in transition and hope to become number 2 and 3 in the years ahead again.
Knockout football can produce surprise results.

Galway are improving for sure but their ceiling is still lower than Mayo's. Mayo would have run Dublin a lot closer than Galway did today.

Tyrone went out to Laois in Round 2 of the qualifiers in 2006 but it didn't mean Tyrone had suddenly gone away. Meath went out to Offaly in the first round of the Leinster championship in 2000 but they hadn't gone away either. Fermanagh beat Armagh in 2004 but it didn't mean Fermanagh were a better team than Armagh, they just were very slightly better on a given day. Donegal were completely thrashed by Mayo in 2013 but it didn't mean Donegal were no hopers.

Repeat ad infinitum.
None of those sides was in transition like Mayo and Kerry are now. They were caught on the hop and came back stronger the next year. Mayo have been dicing with death a few years now and Kerry were knocked out of the championship in a group system if they remain a top 3 team then they should have finished 1st or 2nd in their group a group that didn't have Dublin or Tyrone in it.
Are you seriously telling me you think Mayo 2018 or Kerry 2018 would have surrendered as meekly as Galway did today?

Not. A. Chance.

Kerry without a doubt they were a shambles in defence. Mayo as pointed out already had so many issues going on that they wouldn't be competitive v Dublin this year either. Dublin's lack of competition has got even weaker this year with Kerry and Mayo in transition.

Issues being that the squad isn’t good enough
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: ONeill on August 11, 2018, 09:37:47 PM
Galway had a real purple 5 mins but missed 2-3 in that time. You just can't do that.

The cameras never really caught it but it looked like straight after the Comer goal Cluxton hit a stinker, leaving whoever it was one on one with him and the Galway player Just kicked it straight at his legs. Then the pen. Could have been 3-4 to 0-4.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 11, 2018, 09:38:25 PM
Lot of talk here about sides that didn't make the semi-finals. Lads Mayo were nowhere this year, who did they beat in a big game? Their overall competitive match record for 2018 is terrible and they are very lucky to be still in Division 1 next year. I appreciate that they have the hearts of the neutrals but there was nothing from them this year to suggest that they could replicate their AI performances from 16/17 against Dublin, a brutal injury list compounded the fact that they don't have a squad to match the quality of their first 15.
Outside of Clifford, Kerry were muck at the business end, if they couldn't beat Monaghan or Galway how were they going to beat Dublin? By virtue of the jersey and history? Spare me. Donegal are more overhyped by people outside of their county than Galway, they've beaten nothing.

Dublin are a fantastic team, when they put the boot down in the second half we had nothing in response.
I didn't think that Galway played all that well today which is the most disappointing thing, we had plenty of chances in the first half to put scores on the board, the forwards didn't perform, the shot execution and selection was not good enough, Armstrong had a nightmare, Brannigan was shot after the peno miss. Dublin adjusted at ht and snuffed out the likes of Burke who was a big threat in the opening 35.

We in Galway need to face the hard facts from what has been a relatively decent year, there's some good progress made but there are clear issues in terms of squad depth, chance conversion ratio by the forwards, Galway clearly don't have the legs yet for a full throttle Division One campaign straight through to August, they don't have multiple game plans etc.
It would be a lot to expect all these issues to be taken care of in our first year back in Division One but nonetheless I hope that there are improvements that will be made in 2019.

Whatever criticism the team and management ship in the wake of this beating they have done a lot for Galway this year and deserve respect and thanks from the supporters,
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 09:45:21 PM
Lots of teams just seem to fade away and look like they are not even trying in the second half of matches against Dublin , I’m sure they are trying but they are either out on their feet out of ideas or the dubs slip through the gears and nonchalantly just put them away , very impressive.

It's a psychological thing. This aura has been created by the invincible dubs and it eats at the mind of the opposition. We need a team to come along who does not care one iota what Dublin have done in the last few years and who truly believe they can beat any team on their day. Dublin didn't like it when Tyrone went gung ho in omagh and on another day could have been caught.
That's why I think Tyrone are a much better bet than Monaghan to put it up to Dublin in the final.

Psychologically, I don't think Monaghan will be able for Dublin.

For me Tyrone have a much better chance of matching up in that regard - the county's recent history is based on not respecting reputations.

They caught a tarter last year but there's a serious culture of professionalism in Tyrone and success is demanded. That belief, or fear or failure (in the best possible sense of the phrase) has got them through some really sticky spots this year.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 11, 2018, 09:50:56 PM
Galway had a real purple 5 mins but missed 2-3 in that time. You just can't do that.

The cameras never really caught it but it looked like straight after the Comer goal Cluxton hit a stinker, leaving whoever it was one on one with him and the Galway player Just kicked it straight at his legs. Then the pen. Could have been 3-4 to 0-4.

I’ve said this about Cluxton because he always does it, look at a lot of the big games in the last few years. Pressure on.. Cluxton buckled
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: lenny on August 11, 2018, 09:51:13 PM
Lots of teams just seem to fade away and look like they are not even trying in the second half of matches against Dublin , I’m sure they are trying but they are either out on their feet out of ideas or the dubs slip through the gears and nonchalantly just put them away , very impressive.

It's a psychological thing. This aura has been created by the invincible dubs and it eats at the mind of the opposition. We need a team to come along who does not care one iota what Dublin have done in the last few years and who truly believe they can beat any team on their day. Dublin didn't like it when Tyrone went gung ho in omagh and on another day could have been caught.
That's why I think Tyrone are a much better bet than Monaghan to put it up to Dublin in the final.

Psychologically, I don't think Monaghan will be able for Dublin.

For me Tyrone have a much better chance of matching up in that regard - the county's recent history is based on not respecting reputations.

They caught a tarter last year but there's a serious culture of professionalism in Tyrone and success is demanded. That belief, or fear or failure (in the best possible sense of the phrase) has got them through some really sticky spots this year.

Recent history, that’s a bit of a stretch. It’s 10 years since they beat a big team in the championship.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 09:52:14 PM
Lot of talk here about sides that didn't make the semi-finals. Lads Mayo were nowhere this year, who did they beat in a big game? Their overall competitive match record for 2018 is terrible and they are very lucky to be still in Division 1 next year. I appreciate that they have the hearts of the neutrals but there was nothing from them this year to suggest that they could replicate their AI performances from 16/17 against Dublin, a brutal injury list compounded the fact that they don't have a squad to match the quality of their first 15.
What did Mayo show in July 2016 or July 2017 to suggest they'd be challenging for the All-Ireland?

James Kielt had one kick of the ball to eliminate them in Castlebar last year and had he converted that free, Mayo would have been out, and people would have been saying "Mayo were at nothing this year".

In 2009 Sligo had a penalty to eliminate Kerry in a qualifier but missed it. It was in the middle of a run of three qualifier games where Kerry were deeply unimpressive. Yet Kerry went on to win the All-Ireland.

A classic outcome-based narrative.



Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: straightred on August 11, 2018, 09:53:29 PM
Lots of teams just seem to fade away and look like they are not even trying in the second half of matches against Dublin , I’m sure they are trying but they are either out on their feet out of ideas or the dubs slip through the gears and nonchalantly just put them away , very impressive.

It's a psychological thing. This aura has been created by the invincible dubs and it eats at the mind of the opposition. We need a team to come along who does not care one iota what Dublin have done in the last few years and who truly believe they can beat any team on their day. Dublin didn't like it when Tyrone went gung ho in omagh and on another day could have been caught.

There was a glimmer of hope today for Galway but they didn't take it. They were gifted a goal and then a point from a poor kick out and then they got a penalty. That could have been 7 points from Dublin mistakes within a few minutes but they missed the penalty. It is so rare for Dublin to be that loose and casual so when it does happen you need to take full advantage. Galway didn't and the rest is history
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 09:54:13 PM
Lots of teams just seem to fade away and look like they are not even trying in the second half of matches against Dublin , I’m sure they are trying but they are either out on their feet out of ideas or the dubs slip through the gears and nonchalantly just put them away , very impressive.

It's a psychological thing. This aura has been created by the invincible dubs and it eats at the mind of the opposition. We need a team to come along who does not care one iota what Dublin have done in the last few years and who truly believe they can beat any team on their day. Dublin didn't like it when Tyrone went gung ho in omagh and on another day could have been caught.
That's why I think Tyrone are a much better bet than Monaghan to put it up to Dublin in the final.

Psychologically, I don't think Monaghan will be able for Dublin.

For me Tyrone have a much better chance of matching up in that regard - the county's recent history is based on not respecting reputations.

They caught a tarter last year but there's a serious culture of professionalism in Tyrone and success is demanded. That belief, or fear or failure (in the best possible sense of the phrase) has got them through some really sticky spots this year.

Recent history, that’s a bit of a stretch. It’s 10 years since they beat a big team in the championship.
Dublin didn't beat a big team in the championship from 1995 to 2010. You gotta do it some time.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 11, 2018, 09:54:40 PM
Galway had a real purple 5 mins but missed 2-3 in that time. You just can't do that.

The cameras never really caught it but it looked like straight after the Comer goal Cluxton hit a stinker, leaving whoever it was one on one with him and the Galway player Just kicked it straight at his legs. Then the pen. Could have been 3-4 to 0-4.

From recollection Murchan fumbled a very short kickout, Comer and Burke were straight on top of him, if Comer had kicked it to the side to Burke instead of straight at Cluxton it could have been a great goal chance alright.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 11, 2018, 09:55:07 PM
Lots of teams just seem to fade away and look like they are not even trying in the second half of matches against Dublin , I’m sure they are trying but they are either out on their feet out of ideas or the dubs slip through the gears and nonchalantly just put them away , very impressive.

It's a psychological thing. This aura has been created by the invincible dubs and it eats at the mind of the opposition. We need a team to come along who does not care one iota what Dublin have done in the last few years and who truly believe they can beat any team on their day. Dublin didn't like it when Tyrone went gung ho in omagh and on another day could have been caught.
That's why I think Tyrone are a much better bet than Monaghan to put it up to Dublin in the final.

Psychologically, I don't think Monaghan will be able for Dublin.

For me Tyrone have a much better chance of matching up in that regard - the county's recent history is based on not respecting reputations.

They caught a tarter last year but there's a serious culture of professionalism in Tyrone and success is demanded. That belief, or fear or failure (in the best possible sense of the phrase) has got them through some really sticky spots this year.

You talked up Galway before this game and now trying to talk up Tyrone. Give it a rest.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 09:59:18 PM
Lots of teams just seem to fade away and look like they are not even trying in the second half of matches against Dublin , I’m sure they are trying but they are either out on their feet out of ideas or the dubs slip through the gears and nonchalantly just put them away , very impressive.

It's a psychological thing. This aura has been created by the invincible dubs and it eats at the mind of the opposition. We need a team to come along who does not care one iota what Dublin have done in the last few years and who truly believe they can beat any team on their day. Dublin didn't like it when Tyrone went gung ho in omagh and on another day could have been caught.
That's why I think Tyrone are a much better bet than Monaghan to put it up to Dublin in the final.

Psychologically, I don't think Monaghan will be able for Dublin.

For me Tyrone have a much better chance of matching up in that regard - the county's recent history is based on not respecting reputations.

They caught a tarter last year but there's a serious culture of professionalism in Tyrone and success is demanded. That belief, or fear or failure (in the best possible sense of the phrase) has got them through some really sticky spots this year.

You talked up Galway before this game and now trying to talk up Tyrone. Give it a rest.

I think Dublin would beat Tyrone. I think Dublin will win the All-Ireland regardless of who they face in the final. But I wouldn't be surprised to see Tyrone run them close enough.

The depressing thing is that Dublin today were not near the level they were at in last year's All-Ireland final, they didn't have to be.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 11, 2018, 10:00:58 PM
Lots of teams just seem to fade away and look like they are not even trying in the second half of matches against Dublin , I’m sure they are trying but they are either out on their feet out of ideas or the dubs slip through the gears and nonchalantly just put them away , very impressive.

It's a psychological thing. This aura has been created by the invincible dubs and it eats at the mind of the opposition. We need a team to come along who does not care one iota what Dublin have done in the last few years and who truly believe they can beat any team on their day. Dublin didn't like it when Tyrone went gung ho in omagh and on another day could have been caught.
That's why I think Tyrone are a much better bet than Monaghan to put it up to Dublin in the final.

Psychologically, I don't think Monaghan will be able for Dublin.

For me Tyrone have a much better chance of matching up in that regard - the county's recent history is based on not respecting reputations.

They caught a tarter last year but there's a serious culture of professionalism in Tyrone and success is demanded. That belief, or fear or failure (in the best possible sense of the phrase) has got them through some really sticky spots this year.
One of the features of this golden age of Dub football is the absolute bilge written by Dub fans in the interest of implying that the sport is currently competitive. Tyrone do not have the forwards and are at least 3 metric fucktons short of Mayo 2017 in terms of capacity to challenge the Dubs.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: straightred on August 11, 2018, 10:06:08 PM
Lots of teams just seem to fade away and look like they are not even trying in the second half of matches against Dublin , I’m sure they are trying but they are either out on their feet out of ideas or the dubs slip through the gears and nonchalantly just put them away , very impressive.

It's a psychological thing. This aura has been created by the invincible dubs and it eats at the mind of the opposition. We need a team to come along who does not care one iota what Dublin have done in the last few years and who truly believe they can beat any team on their day. Dublin didn't like it when Tyrone went gung ho in omagh and on another day could have been caught.
That's why I think Tyrone are a much better bet than Monaghan to put it up to Dublin in the final.

Psychologically, I don't think Monaghan will be able for Dublin.

For me Tyrone have a much better chance of matching up in that regard - the county's recent history is based on not respecting reputations.

They caught a tarter last year but there's a serious culture of professionalism in Tyrone and success is demanded. That belief, or fear or failure (in the best possible sense of the phrase) has got them through some really sticky spots this year.
Tyrone had their chance in Healy Park. They even got to mess about with the pitch but it all came to nothing. They were beaten on their own patch by an average enough Dublin performance on the night. Do you really think they could beat Dublin in Croke Park.
I don't for one second give Monaghan a big chance either but its nonsense to say that aren't as well equipped as Tyrone.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 10:06:34 PM
Lots of teams just seem to fade away and look like they are not even trying in the second half of matches against Dublin , I’m sure they are trying but they are either out on their feet out of ideas or the dubs slip through the gears and nonchalantly just put them away , very impressive.

It's a psychological thing. This aura has been created by the invincible dubs and it eats at the mind of the opposition. We need a team to come along who does not care one iota what Dublin have done in the last few years and who truly believe they can beat any team on their day. Dublin didn't like it when Tyrone went gung ho in omagh and on another day could have been caught.
That's why I think Tyrone are a much better bet than Monaghan to put it up to Dublin in the final.

Psychologically, I don't think Monaghan will be able for Dublin.

For me Tyrone have a much better chance of matching up in that regard - the county's recent history is based on not respecting reputations.

They caught a tarter last year but there's a serious culture of professionalism in Tyrone and success is demanded. That belief, or fear or failure (in the best possible sense of the phrase) has got them through some really sticky spots this year.
One of the features of this golden age of Dub football is the absolute bilge written by Dub fans in the interest of implying that the sport is currently competitive. Tyrone do not have the forwards and are at least 3 metric fucktons short of Mayo 2017 in terms of capacity to challenge the Dubs.
As a whole the sport is not competitive, but an elite coterie of challengers, namely, Mayo, Kerry and Donegal, have been very, very competitive with Dublin at the business end of the championship in every single year since the current generation first won it in 2011.

It remains to be seen whether Tyrone can join that list, but if any team is to be competive with Dublin this year, it's likely to be them.

Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: mouview on August 11, 2018, 10:32:09 PM
Disappointing for Galway today but definitely progress from previous years. I think ye need a better manager than Walsh there, I don't think he's good enough to beat Dublin.
Realistically, the manager is not the problem.

No, but he didn't appear to have any real game plan or alternative tactics today. Brannigan could have been hooked immediately after the peno (why didn't Armstrong take it?) Backs were all at sea and nobody was detailed to mark Ciaran KK who ran the show. Kerins had his poorest outing of the season; Sweeney and Bradshaw were simply blown out of it. Heaney was poor. Subs once again too late in coming. Comer got the goal and won the penalty; suddenly he spent the rest of the half way out the field. Why? Ian Burke was out best forward today, a little over 12 months since he first started. Just not good enough stewardship I'm afraid.



Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 11, 2018, 10:34:38 PM
Lot of talk here about sides that didn't make the semi-finals. Lads Mayo were nowhere this year, who did they beat in a big game? Their overall competitive match record for 2018 is terrible and they are very lucky to be still in Division 1 next year. I appreciate that they have the hearts of the neutrals but there was nothing from them this year to suggest that they could replicate their AI performances from 16/17 against Dublin, a brutal injury list compounded the fact that they don't have a squad to match the quality of their first 15.
What did Mayo show in July 2016 or July 2017 to suggest they'd be challenging for the All-Ireland?

James Kielt had one kick of the ball to eliminate them in Castlebar last year and had he converted that free, Mayo would have been out, and people would have been saying "Mayo were at nothing this year".

In 2009 Sligo had a penalty to eliminate Kerry in a qualifier but missed it. It was in the middle of a run of three qualifier games where Kerry were deeply unimpressive. Yet Kerry went on to win the All-Ireland.

A classic outcome-based narrative.
But those teams actually made finals, Mayo 2018 went out in the third round of the qualifiers, there's a very clear and easy distinction to be made. If Mayo had gone out to Derry last year then, yes, they would have been at nothing.
Could Mayo have rocked up today and performed better than Galway? Absolutely possible, we didn't put the bar too high to surpass to be honest.
However, I don't think that Mayo with Parsons out, the likes of Boyle, Moran, Higgins a year older and (particularly in the case of Boyle) not playing as well as they have previously could have beaten Dublin, I don't think the Mayo of 2018 would have won an All Ireland or got within a replay/point of Dublin.
If you think that Mayo would have sprung into life if they made the semi-finals this year, fine, it's wishful thinking in my (and it is only my) opinion.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 11, 2018, 10:38:39 PM
Whats running them tight 4-5 pts after 55mins before they blow u away! Tyrone ok but Dublin width would open them up easy enough and maybe only 3 or 4 of them would make the dublin team at a stretch!
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 11, 2018, 10:40:58 PM
Whats running them tight 4-5 pts after 55mins before they bliw u away! Tyrone ok but Dublin width would open them up easy enough and maybe only 3 or 4 of them would make the dublin team at a stretch!

That’s when you put the pressure on Cluxton
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 11:16:25 PM
Lot of talk here about sides that didn't make the semi-finals. Lads Mayo were nowhere this year, who did they beat in a big game? Their overall competitive match record for 2018 is terrible and they are very lucky to be still in Division 1 next year. I appreciate that they have the hearts of the neutrals but there was nothing from them this year to suggest that they could replicate their AI performances from 16/17 against Dublin, a brutal injury list compounded the fact that they don't have a squad to match the quality of their first 15.
What did Mayo show in July 2016 or July 2017 to suggest they'd be challenging for the All-Ireland?

James Kielt had one kick of the ball to eliminate them in Castlebar last year and had he converted that free, Mayo would have been out, and people would have been saying "Mayo were at nothing this year".

In 2009 Sligo had a penalty to eliminate Kerry in a qualifier but missed it. It was in the middle of a run of three qualifier games where Kerry were deeply unimpressive. Yet Kerry went on to win the All-Ireland.

A classic outcome-based narrative.
But those teams actually made finals, Mayo 2018 went out in the third round of the qualifiers, there's a very clear and easy distinction to be made. If Mayo had gone out to Derry last year then, yes, they would have been at nothing.
Could Mayo have rocked up today and performed better than Galway? Absolutely possible, we didn't put the bar too high to surpass to be honest.
However, I don't think that Mayo with Parsons out, the likes of Boyle, Moran, Higgins a year older and (particularly in the case of Boyle) not playing as well as they have previously could have beaten Dublin, I don't think the Mayo of 2018 would have won an All Ireland or got within a replay/point of Dublin.
If you think that Mayo would have sprung into life if they made the semi-finals this year, fine, it's wishful thinking in my (and it is only my) opinion.
The fact that Mayo reached an All-Ireland final and lost by one point against Dublin showed they were not at nothing.

The very high likelihood is that had it been Dublin v Mayo today, Mayo would have come a damn sight closer to beating Dublin, if they did not beat them.

They lost to Kildare in a ding donger, that's football, but it doesn't mean Kildare are a better team than Mayo, and as of right now, were I to choose any two teams to try and beat Dublin, it would be 1. Mayo and 2 Kerry.

Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: straightred on August 11, 2018, 11:27:28 PM
Lot of talk here about sides that didn't make the semi-finals. Lads Mayo were nowhere this year, who did they beat in a big game? Their overall competitive match record for 2018 is terrible and they are very lucky to be still in Division 1 next year. I appreciate that they have the hearts of the neutrals but there was nothing from them this year to suggest that they could replicate their AI performances from 16/17 against Dublin, a brutal injury list compounded the fact that they don't have a squad to match the quality of their first 15.
What did Mayo show in July 2016 or July 2017 to suggest they'd be challenging for the All-Ireland?

James Kielt had one kick of the ball to eliminate them in Castlebar last year and had he converted that free, Mayo would have been out, and people would have been saying "Mayo were at nothing this year".

In 2009 Sligo had a penalty to eliminate Kerry in a qualifier but missed it. It was in the middle of a run of three qualifier games where Kerry were deeply unimpressive. Yet Kerry went on to win the All-Ireland.

A classic outcome-based narrative.
But those teams actually made finals, Mayo 2018 went out in the third round of the qualifiers, there's a very clear and easy distinction to be made. If Mayo had gone out to Derry last year then, yes, they would have been at nothing.
Could Mayo have rocked up today and performed better than Galway? Absolutely possible, we didn't put the bar too high to surpass to be honest.
However, I don't think that Mayo with Parsons out, the likes of Boyle, Moran, Higgins a year older and (particularly in the case of Boyle) not playing as well as they have previously could have beaten Dublin, I don't think the Mayo of 2018 would have won an All Ireland or got within a replay/point of Dublin.
If you think that Mayo would have sprung into life if they made the semi-finals this year, fine, it's wishful thinking in my (and it is only my) opinion.
The fact that Mayo reached an All-Ireland final and lost by one point against Dublin showed they were not at nothing.

The very high likelihood is that had it been Dublin v Mayo today, Mayo would have come a damn sight closer to beating Dublin, if they did not beat them.

They lost to Kildare in a ding donger, that's football, but it doesn't mean Kildare are a better team than Mayo, and as of right now, were I to choose any two teams to try and beat Dublin, it would be 1. Mayo and 2 Kerry.
If my auntie had balls.........
Mayo this year were miles off Mayo last year so yes they would have got just as big a beating today IMO. Mayo need to find some young players and come again next year. This year is gone for them and they were only bit players
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 11, 2018, 11:31:37 PM
Lot of talk here about sides that didn't make the semi-finals. Lads Mayo were nowhere this year, who did they beat in a big game? Their overall competitive match record for 2018 is terrible and they are very lucky to be still in Division 1 next year. I appreciate that they have the hearts of the neutrals but there was nothing from them this year to suggest that they could replicate their AI performances from 16/17 against Dublin, a brutal injury list compounded the fact that they don't have a squad to match the quality of their first 15.
What did Mayo show in July 2016 or July 2017 to suggest they'd be challenging for the All-Ireland?

James Kielt had one kick of the ball to eliminate them in Castlebar last year and had he converted that free, Mayo would have been out, and people would have been saying "Mayo were at nothing this year".

In 2009 Sligo had a penalty to eliminate Kerry in a qualifier but missed it. It was in the middle of a run of three qualifier games where Kerry were deeply unimpressive. Yet Kerry went on to win the All-Ireland.

A classic outcome-based narrative.
But those teams actually made finals, Mayo 2018 went out in the third round of the qualifiers, there's a very clear and easy distinction to be made. If Mayo had gone out to Derry last year then, yes, they would have been at nothing.
Could Mayo have rocked up today and performed better than Galway? Absolutely possible, we didn't put the bar too high to surpass to be honest.
However, I don't think that Mayo with Parsons out, the likes of Boyle, Moran, Higgins a year older and (particularly in the case of Boyle) not playing as well as they have previously could have beaten Dublin, I don't think the Mayo of 2018 would have won an All Ireland or got within a replay/point of Dublin.
If you think that Mayo would have sprung into life if they made the semi-finals this year, fine, it's wishful thinking in my (and it is only my) opinion.
The fact that Mayo reached an All-Ireland final and lost by one point against Dublin showed they were not at nothing.

The very high likelihood is that had it been Dublin v Mayo today, Mayo would have come a damn sight closer to beating Dublin, if they did not beat them.

They lost to Kildare in a ding donger, that's football, but it doesn't mean Kildare are a better team than Mayo, and as of right now, were I to choose any two teams to try and beat Dublin, it would be 1. Mayo and 2 Kerry.



How can I possibly try and argue against speculation like that?

I wouldn't give the Mayo and Kerry teams of 2018 any chance of beating Dublin today but admittedly I only have those counties results and performances from this year to try and back up that notion.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 11:32:13 PM
Lot of talk here about sides that didn't make the semi-finals. Lads Mayo were nowhere this year, who did they beat in a big game? Their overall competitive match record for 2018 is terrible and they are very lucky to be still in Division 1 next year. I appreciate that they have the hearts of the neutrals but there was nothing from them this year to suggest that they could replicate their AI performances from 16/17 against Dublin, a brutal injury list compounded the fact that they don't have a squad to match the quality of their first 15.
What did Mayo show in July 2016 or July 2017 to suggest they'd be challenging for the All-Ireland?

James Kielt had one kick of the ball to eliminate them in Castlebar last year and had he converted that free, Mayo would have been out, and people would have been saying "Mayo were at nothing this year".

In 2009 Sligo had a penalty to eliminate Kerry in a qualifier but missed it. It was in the middle of a run of three qualifier games where Kerry were deeply unimpressive. Yet Kerry went on to win the All-Ireland.

A classic outcome-based narrative.
But those teams actually made finals, Mayo 2018 went out in the third round of the qualifiers, there's a very clear and easy distinction to be made. If Mayo had gone out to Derry last year then, yes, they would have been at nothing.
Could Mayo have rocked up today and performed better than Galway? Absolutely possible, we didn't put the bar too high to surpass to be honest.
However, I don't think that Mayo with Parsons out, the likes of Boyle, Moran, Higgins a year older and (particularly in the case of Boyle) not playing as well as they have previously could have beaten Dublin, I don't think the Mayo of 2018 would have won an All Ireland or got within a replay/point of Dublin.
If you think that Mayo would have sprung into life if they made the semi-finals this year, fine, it's wishful thinking in my (and it is only my) opinion.
The fact that Mayo reached an All-Ireland final and lost by one point against Dublin showed they were not at nothing.

The very high likelihood is that had it been Dublin v Mayo today, Mayo would have come a damn sight closer to beating Dublin, if they did not beat them.

They lost to Kildare in a ding donger, that's football, but it doesn't mean Kildare are a better team than Mayo, and as of right now, were I to choose any two teams to try and beat Dublin, it would be 1. Mayo and 2 Kerry.
If my auntie had balls.........
Mayo this year were miles off Mayo last year so yes they would have got just as big a beating today IMO. Mayo need to find some young players and come again next year. This year is gone for them and they were only bit players

What do you base that on?

Mayo this year in the Connacht championship and up to Round 3 of the qualifiers played at pretty much exactly the same level as they did in the 2016 and 2017 championships up to that point.

Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 11:33:30 PM
Lot of talk here about sides that didn't make the semi-finals. Lads Mayo were nowhere this year, who did they beat in a big game? Their overall competitive match record for 2018 is terrible and they are very lucky to be still in Division 1 next year. I appreciate that they have the hearts of the neutrals but there was nothing from them this year to suggest that they could replicate their AI performances from 16/17 against Dublin, a brutal injury list compounded the fact that they don't have a squad to match the quality of their first 15.
What did Mayo show in July 2016 or July 2017 to suggest they'd be challenging for the All-Ireland?

James Kielt had one kick of the ball to eliminate them in Castlebar last year and had he converted that free, Mayo would have been out, and people would have been saying "Mayo were at nothing this year".

In 2009 Sligo had a penalty to eliminate Kerry in a qualifier but missed it. It was in the middle of a run of three qualifier games where Kerry were deeply unimpressive. Yet Kerry went on to win the All-Ireland.

A classic outcome-based narrative.
But those teams actually made finals, Mayo 2018 went out in the third round of the qualifiers, there's a very clear and easy distinction to be made. If Mayo had gone out to Derry last year then, yes, they would have been at nothing.
Could Mayo have rocked up today and performed better than Galway? Absolutely possible, we didn't put the bar too high to surpass to be honest.
However, I don't think that Mayo with Parsons out, the likes of Boyle, Moran, Higgins a year older and (particularly in the case of Boyle) not playing as well as they have previously could have beaten Dublin, I don't think the Mayo of 2018 would have won an All Ireland or got within a replay/point of Dublin.
If you think that Mayo would have sprung into life if they made the semi-finals this year, fine, it's wishful thinking in my (and it is only my) opinion.
The fact that Mayo reached an All-Ireland final and lost by one point against Dublin showed they were not at nothing.

The very high likelihood is that had it been Dublin v Mayo today, Mayo would have come a damn sight closer to beating Dublin, if they did not beat them.

They lost to Kildare in a ding donger, that's football, but it doesn't mean Kildare are a better team than Mayo, and as of right now, were I to choose any two teams to try and beat Dublin, it would be 1. Mayo and 2 Kerry.



How can I possibly try and argue against speculation like that?

I wouldn't give the Mayo and Kerry teams of 2018 any chance of beating Dublin today but admittedly I only have those counties results and performances from this year to try and back up that notion.
But sure based on that logic, Mayo 2016 and 2017 would have been beaten out the gate by Dublin.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: macdanger2 on August 11, 2018, 11:36:11 PM
Dunno why Mayo are being dragged into this conversation, we lost in the qualifiers this year because we weren't good enough. The only reason for mentioning us imo is from a s&c point of view, we're one of the very few teams who come close to Dublin.

Tbh, the game today reminded me of our sf v kerry in 2011 when we were beaten from a long way out but didn't get hammered. Galway have more expectancy now than we had then though. Galway have a decent age profile like we had then
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: straightred on August 11, 2018, 11:36:56 PM
Lot of talk here about sides that didn't make the semi-finals. Lads Mayo were nowhere this year, who did they beat in a big game? Their overall competitive match record for 2018 is terrible and they are very lucky to be still in Division 1 next year. I appreciate that they have the hearts of the neutrals but there was nothing from them this year to suggest that they could replicate their AI performances from 16/17 against Dublin, a brutal injury list compounded the fact that they don't have a squad to match the quality of their first 15.
What did Mayo show in July 2016 or July 2017 to suggest they'd be challenging for the All-Ireland?

James Kielt had one kick of the ball to eliminate them in Castlebar last year and had he converted that free, Mayo would have been out, and people would have been saying "Mayo were at nothing this year".

In 2009 Sligo had a penalty to eliminate Kerry in a qualifier but missed it. It was in the middle of a run of three qualifier games where Kerry were deeply unimpressive. Yet Kerry went on to win the All-Ireland.

A classic outcome-based narrative.
But those teams actually made finals, Mayo 2018 went out in the third round of the qualifiers, there's a very clear and easy distinction to be made. If Mayo had gone out to Derry last year then, yes, they would have been at nothing.
Could Mayo have rocked up today and performed better than Galway? Absolutely possible, we didn't put the bar too high to surpass to be honest.
However, I don't think that Mayo with Parsons out, the likes of Boyle, Moran, Higgins a year older and (particularly in the case of Boyle) not playing as well as they have previously could have beaten Dublin, I don't think the Mayo of 2018 would have won an All Ireland or got within a replay/point of Dublin.
If you think that Mayo would have sprung into life if they made the semi-finals this year, fine, it's wishful thinking in my (and it is only my) opinion.
The fact that Mayo reached an All-Ireland final and lost by one point against Dublin showed they were not at nothing.

The very high likelihood is that had it been Dublin v Mayo today, Mayo would have come a damn sight closer to beating Dublin, if they did not beat them.

They lost to Kildare in a ding donger, that's football, but it doesn't mean Kildare are a better team than Mayo, and as of right now, were I to choose any two teams to try and beat Dublin, it would be 1. Mayo and 2 Kerry.
If my auntie had balls.........
Mayo this year were miles off Mayo last year so yes they would have got just as big a beating today IMO. Mayo need to find some young players and come again next year. This year is gone for them and they were only bit players

What do you base that on?

Mayo this year in the Connacht championship and up to Round 3 of the qualifiers played at pretty much exactly the same level as they did in the 2016 and 2017 championships up to that point.
I base it on the same guesswork that you're doing. Mayo were beaten by Kildare who subsequently lost all 3 of their super 8 games. Its not a great form line is it ?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 11, 2018, 11:39:04 PM
If you want to go thinking Mayo could have won the All Ireland this year fair play to your imagination sid, I genuinely don't care.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 11:43:08 PM
Lot of talk here about sides that didn't make the semi-finals. Lads Mayo were nowhere this year, who did they beat in a big game? Their overall competitive match record for 2018 is terrible and they are very lucky to be still in Division 1 next year. I appreciate that they have the hearts of the neutrals but there was nothing from them this year to suggest that they could replicate their AI performances from 16/17 against Dublin, a brutal injury list compounded the fact that they don't have a squad to match the quality of their first 15.
What did Mayo show in July 2016 or July 2017 to suggest they'd be challenging for the All-Ireland?

James Kielt had one kick of the ball to eliminate them in Castlebar last year and had he converted that free, Mayo would have been out, and people would have been saying "Mayo were at nothing this year".

In 2009 Sligo had a penalty to eliminate Kerry in a qualifier but missed it. It was in the middle of a run of three qualifier games where Kerry were deeply unimpressive. Yet Kerry went on to win the All-Ireland.

A classic outcome-based narrative.
But those teams actually made finals, Mayo 2018 went out in the third round of the qualifiers, there's a very clear and easy distinction to be made. If Mayo had gone out to Derry last year then, yes, they would have been at nothing.
Could Mayo have rocked up today and performed better than Galway? Absolutely possible, we didn't put the bar too high to surpass to be honest.
However, I don't think that Mayo with Parsons out, the likes of Boyle, Moran, Higgins a year older and (particularly in the case of Boyle) not playing as well as they have previously could have beaten Dublin, I don't think the Mayo of 2018 would have won an All Ireland or got within a replay/point of Dublin.
If you think that Mayo would have sprung into life if they made the semi-finals this year, fine, it's wishful thinking in my (and it is only my) opinion.
The fact that Mayo reached an All-Ireland final and lost by one point against Dublin showed they were not at nothing.

The very high likelihood is that had it been Dublin v Mayo today, Mayo would have come a damn sight closer to beating Dublin, if they did not beat them.

They lost to Kildare in a ding donger, that's football, but it doesn't mean Kildare are a better team than Mayo, and as of right now, were I to choose any two teams to try and beat Dublin, it would be 1. Mayo and 2 Kerry.
If my auntie had balls.........
Mayo this year were miles off Mayo last year so yes they would have got just as big a beating today IMO. Mayo need to find some young players and come again next year. This year is gone for them and they were only bit players

What do you base that on?

Mayo this year in the Connacht championship and up to Round 3 of the qualifiers played at pretty much exactly the same level as they did in the 2016 and 2017 championships up to that point.

I base it on the same guesswork that you're doing. Mayo were beaten by Kildare who subsequently lost all 3 of their super 8 games. Its not a great form line is it ?
Last year Mayo lost to Galway who went on to be destroyed by Roscommon. Galway were destroyed by Kerry. Yet Mayo then beat Kerry.

Formlines are not everything, they rarely are. If formlines mattered that much, Tyrone should hardly bother turning up tomorrow as Monaghan have already beaten them in the championship.

Certain teams have an ability to up their game when they need to.

I'm still waiting for anybody to tell me why Mayo wouldn't have done at least considerably better than Galway today. They wouldn't have faded out straight after half-time, for a start.

Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: straightred on August 11, 2018, 11:49:23 PM
Lot of talk here about sides that didn't make the semi-finals. Lads Mayo were nowhere this year, who did they beat in a big game? Their overall competitive match record for 2018 is terrible and they are very lucky to be still in Division 1 next year. I appreciate that they have the hearts of the neutrals but there was nothing from them this year to suggest that they could replicate their AI performances from 16/17 against Dublin, a brutal injury list compounded the fact that they don't have a squad to match the quality of their first 15.
What did Mayo show in July 2016 or July 2017 to suggest they'd be challenging for the All-Ireland?

James Kielt had one kick of the ball to eliminate them in Castlebar last year and had he converted that free, Mayo would have been out, and people would have been saying "Mayo were at nothing this year".

In 2009 Sligo had a penalty to eliminate Kerry in a qualifier but missed it. It was in the middle of a run of three qualifier games where Kerry were deeply unimpressive. Yet Kerry went on to win the All-Ireland.

A classic outcome-based narrative.
But those teams actually made finals, Mayo 2018 went out in the third round of the qualifiers, there's a very clear and easy distinction to be made. If Mayo had gone out to Derry last year then, yes, they would have been at nothing.
Could Mayo have rocked up today and performed better than Galway? Absolutely possible, we didn't put the bar too high to surpass to be honest.
However, I don't think that Mayo with Parsons out, the likes of Boyle, Moran, Higgins a year older and (particularly in the case of Boyle) not playing as well as they have previously could have beaten Dublin, I don't think the Mayo of 2018 would have won an All Ireland or got within a replay/point of Dublin.
If you think that Mayo would have sprung into life if they made the semi-finals this year, fine, it's wishful thinking in my (and it is only my) opinion.
The fact that Mayo reached an All-Ireland final and lost by one point against Dublin showed they were not at nothing.

The very high likelihood is that had it been Dublin v Mayo today, Mayo would have come a damn sight closer to beating Dublin, if they did not beat them.

They lost to Kildare in a ding donger, that's football, but it doesn't mean Kildare are a better team than Mayo, and as of right now, were I to choose any two teams to try and beat Dublin, it would be 1. Mayo and 2 Kerry.
If my auntie had balls.........
Mayo this year were miles off Mayo last year so yes they would have got just as big a beating today IMO. Mayo need to find some young players and come again next year. This year is gone for them and they were only bit players

What do you base that on?

Mayo this year in the Connacht championship and up to Round 3 of the qualifiers played at pretty much exactly the same level as they did in the 2016 and 2017 championships up to that point.

I base it on the same guesswork that you're doing. Mayo were beaten by Kildare who subsequently lost all 3 of their super 8 games. Its not a great form line is it ?
Last year Mayo lost to Galway who went on to be destroyed by Roscommon. Galway were destroyed by Kerry. Yet Mayo then beat Kerry.

Formlines are not everything, they rarely are. If formlines mattered that much, Tyrone should hardly bother turning up tomorrow as Monaghan have already beaten them in the championship.

Certain teams have an ability to up their game when they need to.

I'm still waiting for anybody to tell me why Mayo wouldn't have done at least considerably better than Galway today. They wouldn't have faded out straight after half-time, for a start.
Why am i even responding.....
It's knock out football and they were knocked out. You can't go speculating about Mayo and what might have been and expect the rest of us to agree. We dont have to tell you why Mayo wouldn't have done well in just the same way as we don't have to explain why Antrim wouldn't have done well. Both are gone and you need to get over it.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Rossfan on August 11, 2018, 11:55:17 PM
Couldn't see Antrim batin Dublin myself. .... :o
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: sid waddell on August 11, 2018, 11:55:51 PM
If you want to go thinking Mayo could have won the All Ireland this year fair play to your imagination sid, I genuinely don't care.
I didn't say they would have won it.

But they could of course have won it had things worked out a little differently, ie. had they got a home draw or had the Kildare game been played in Croke Park. In either of these situations Mayo would very likely have got over Kildare and gone on from that.

Could Dublin have won the 2014 final had Donegal not ambushed them? They very likely would have done.

Had Paul Durcan not kicked the ball staright to Kieran Donaghy in the final, could Donegal have won? They probably would have.

Basically what you're trying to day is that what happened was inevitable, that there was never any possibility of anything else happening. That's not how it works.

Had Justin McNulty picked out a pinpoint ball in 2001 instead of gormlessly telegraphing his kick and getting blocked down, Galway could have been out of that championship and Armagh could have been thrashing Meath in the final instead.

Margins are small, they're tiny, and one small incident can cast a long shadow.




Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 12, 2018, 12:01:16 AM
Grand, continue to live in the land of what if, it is moot when pitted against actual events.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: sid waddell on August 12, 2018, 12:03:33 AM
Lot of talk here about sides that didn't make the semi-finals. Lads Mayo were nowhere this year, who did they beat in a big game? Their overall competitive match record for 2018 is terrible and they are very lucky to be still in Division 1 next year. I appreciate that they have the hearts of the neutrals but there was nothing from them this year to suggest that they could replicate their AI performances from 16/17 against Dublin, a brutal injury list compounded the fact that they don't have a squad to match the quality of their first 15.
What did Mayo show in July 2016 or July 2017 to suggest they'd be challenging for the All-Ireland?

James Kielt had one kick of the ball to eliminate them in Castlebar last year and had he converted that free, Mayo would have been out, and people would have been saying "Mayo were at nothing this year".

In 2009 Sligo had a penalty to eliminate Kerry in a qualifier but missed it. It was in the middle of a run of three qualifier games where Kerry were deeply unimpressive. Yet Kerry went on to win the All-Ireland.

A classic outcome-based narrative.
But those teams actually made finals, Mayo 2018 went out in the third round of the qualifiers, there's a very clear and easy distinction to be made. If Mayo had gone out to Derry last year then, yes, they would have been at nothing.
Could Mayo have rocked up today and performed better than Galway? Absolutely possible, we didn't put the bar too high to surpass to be honest.
However, I don't think that Mayo with Parsons out, the likes of Boyle, Moran, Higgins a year older and (particularly in the case of Boyle) not playing as well as they have previously could have beaten Dublin, I don't think the Mayo of 2018 would have won an All Ireland or got within a replay/point of Dublin.
If you think that Mayo would have sprung into life if they made the semi-finals this year, fine, it's wishful thinking in my (and it is only my) opinion.
The fact that Mayo reached an All-Ireland final and lost by one point against Dublin showed they were not at nothing.

The very high likelihood is that had it been Dublin v Mayo today, Mayo would have come a damn sight closer to beating Dublin, if they did not beat them.

They lost to Kildare in a ding donger, that's football, but it doesn't mean Kildare are a better team than Mayo, and as of right now, were I to choose any two teams to try and beat Dublin, it would be 1. Mayo and 2 Kerry.
If my auntie had balls.........
Mayo this year were miles off Mayo last year so yes they would have got just as big a beating today IMO. Mayo need to find some young players and come again next year. This year is gone for them and they were only bit players

What do you base that on?

Mayo this year in the Connacht championship and up to Round 3 of the qualifiers played at pretty much exactly the same level as they did in the 2016 and 2017 championships up to that point.

I base it on the same guesswork that you're doing. Mayo were beaten by Kildare who subsequently lost all 3 of their super 8 games. Its not a great form line is it ?
Last year Mayo lost to Galway who went on to be destroyed by Roscommon. Galway were destroyed by Kerry. Yet Mayo then beat Kerry.

Formlines are not everything, they rarely are. If formlines mattered that much, Tyrone should hardly bother turning up tomorrow as Monaghan have already beaten them in the championship.

Certain teams have an ability to up their game when they need to.

I'm still waiting for anybody to tell me why Mayo wouldn't have done at least considerably better than Galway today. They wouldn't have faded out straight after half-time, for a start.
Why am i even responding.....
It's knock out football and they were knocked out. You can't go speculating about Mayo and what might have been and expect the rest of us to agree. We dont have to tell you why Mayo wouldn't have done well in just the same way as we don't have to explain why Antrim wouldn't have done well. Both are gone and you need to get over it.
The line I'm objecting to is the notion Mayo would not have done any better than Galway today because "they were at nothing".

It's an outcome-based narrative meant to try and prove that what happens was always inevitable, when that clearly isn't the case.

You're comparing Mayo to Antrim in terms of ability now.

That's a very foolish comparison, if I may say so.









Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Syferus on August 12, 2018, 01:57:13 AM
RIP Seafoid.

The greatest that there ever was. No one has a chance. No one else will be remembered.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jayop on August 12, 2018, 02:03:09 AM
Mayo lads chill te f**k. If you played Dublin today you'd have probably only lost by a point. That's what mayo do. They play to the level of the team they play against (mostly my second team are sligo and I was at the final a few years ago). Ye have been brilliant for years but that team is ageing and I see no signs of it being rejuvenated.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Crete Boom on August 12, 2018, 02:11:10 AM
Mayo lads chill te f**k. If you played Dublin today you'd have probably only lost by a point. That's what mayo do. They play to the level of the team they play against (mostly my second team are sligo and I was at the final a few years ago). Ye have been brilliant for years but that team is ageing and I see no signs of it being rejuvenated.

Point out the Mayo posters arguing that Mayo would have gotten closer to Dublin today! I think you will find it's posters from other counties lamenting the decline of Mayo. We are nice and chilled enjoying club league games this weekend and feel sorry our neighbors didn't get the performance they wanted in Croker today.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jayop on August 12, 2018, 02:17:46 AM
Mayo lads chill te f**k. If you played Dublin today you'd have probably only lost by a point. That's what mayo do. They play to the level of the team they play against (mostly my second team are sligo and I was at the final a few years ago). Ye have been brilliant for years but that team is ageing and I see no signs of it being rejuvenated.

Point out the Mayo posters arguing that Mayo would have gotten closer to Dublin today! I think you will find it's posters from other counties lamenting the decline of Mayo. We are nice and chilled enjoying club league games this weekend and feel sorry our neighbors didn't get the performance they wanted in Croker today.

Fair cop. I could well be reading other countries posters as being from mayo. I think mayo would have been closer to Dublin today despite also thinking Galway are now better than ye. There's a certain game raising in this mayo team that's admirable that Tyrone, Galway and monaghan have yet to show.

Hope you have a great club season too! I'll surely get to a few games below
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 12, 2018, 02:28:44 AM
Dunno why Mayo are being dragged into this conversation, we lost in the qualifiers this year because we weren't good enough. The only reason for mentioning us imo is from a s&c point of view, we're one of the very few teams who come close to Dublin.

Tbh, the game today reminded me of our sf v kerry in 2011 when we were beaten from a long way out but didn't get hammered. Galway have more expectancy now than we had then though. Galway have a decent age profile like we had then

Probably the most sensible post on here. It’s still a very young Galway side. 4 U-21s from last year. One player over 30. They are not ready yet clearly. They may never be for all I know but they will be there or thereabouts over the next few years despite today.

And sure we have minor and senior hurlers both in action on All Ireland final day. Our minor footballers are in the final and our seniors lost in the semi final to a side going for 4 in a row. Disappointed but probably some perspective needed. Many have it worse.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: cornetto on August 12, 2018, 08:33:03 AM
Galway beaten fair and square,dubs are not going to be beaten by Monahan or Tyrone but I do expect the final to be a closer affair than sat semi final.
i listened to mayo fans in wards hotel salthill earlier
 "oh mayo could get within a point of the dubs"
They could, did it make defeat "easier"!
Anyway my own theory is Galway looked a tired team,they have exceeded expectations in all fairness.
We have been reading as far back as feb the serious training Galway put in for the league and it showed with a league final showing running the dubs to 4Pts.
This over trained league team then went on to win the connacht championship.
Qualify for super 8s and reach a semi final all progress.
We are still short a centre back of calibre but the experience gained from this year's run is immeasurable.
Hopefully not as much effort needed to remain in div 1 next year and time our run like mayo in previous years to maybe get within a point of the dubs!!😁

Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: BarryBreensBandage on August 12, 2018, 08:54:27 AM
Just a comment on the Super 8 setup:

We took 80 kids from our club to the match yesterday for a day out.
We couldn't believe we would get to see a Dublin match, but got the tickets and had a fantastic day.

There is no way we would have got these number of tickets for an AISF last year.
Maybe a positive point on the Super 8s is that it makes big matches more accessible for the neutral?

I would say there would be plenty of GAA folk who would have went to the match yesterday if they had known tickets were available.
It may take a couple of years for this to filter through, but I could see this actually energising the championship.
If your own team is muck, head to Croker for the day when the big matches are on!

Whatever the style and brand of football, nothing beats going there for a big game.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 12, 2018, 09:08:48 AM
I presume the Dubs will win the final. This winter Kerry will be fixated on the unthinkable. The Dubs win the 5 in a row. Nothing would stick in the Kerry craw more than that.  Nobody has ever done it. It is Kerry’s birthright,at least in Kerry. Next year should be very interesting. The affairs of empires. 

https://youtu.be/Wxgju-2xbfQ
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: straightred on August 12, 2018, 09:20:46 AM
I presume the Dubs will win the final. This winter Kerry will be fixated on the unthinkable. The Dubs win the 5 in a row. Nothing would stick in the Kerry craw more than that.  Nobody has ever done it. It is Kerry’s birthright,at least in Kerry. Next year should be very interesting. The affairs of empires. 

https://youtu.be/Wxgju-2xbfQ

They'll have a new manager and probably a few retirements. Its a big ask to expect them to challenge straight away.

Dublin should win 4, 5 and maybe more unless they have a meltdown somewhere along the way. Its unlikely but who knows what can happen. If galway had taken their chances yesertday they would have been well up at half time. As it turned out it wouldn't have been enough but a more experienced and battle hardened team might be able to close it out if they got a lead.

It must be soul destroying for teams to look at the dublin subs coming on. Every one of them would be starters for every other county
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: highorlow on August 12, 2018, 09:22:58 AM
By the 50th minute yesterday the Galway lads appeared to be gassed compared to Dublin who didn’t appear to break a sweat all day.

Major questions for the management on that front.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Owen Brannigan on August 12, 2018, 09:49:43 AM
Just a comment on the Super 8 setup:

We took 80 kids from our club to the match yesterday for a day out.
We couldn't believe we would get to see a Dublin match, but got the tickets and had a fantastic day.

There is no way we would have got these number of tickets for an AISF last year.
Maybe a positive point on the Super 8s is that it makes big matches more accessible for the neutral?

I would say there would be plenty of GAA folk who would have went to the match yesterday if they had known tickets were available.
It may take a couple of years for this to filter through, but I could see this actually energising the championship.
If your own team is muck, head to Croker for the day when the big matches are on!

Whatever the style and brand of football, nothing beats going there for a big game.

Your enthusiasm is admirable but is put in the shade by your efforts in giving 80 kids a brilliant day out in a great stadium with the Dubs in their pomp and their supporters in full voice (even if it was about the referee at times). Just a pity the Galway players and supporters didn’t turn up to compete.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: mouview on August 12, 2018, 09:51:08 AM
I presume the Dubs will win the final. This winter Kerry will be fixated on the unthinkable. The Dubs win the 5 in a row. Nothing would stick in the Kerry craw more than that.  Nobody has ever done it. It is Kerry’s birthright,at least in Kerry. Next year should be very interesting. The affairs of empires. 

https://youtu.be/Wxgju-2xbfQ

They'll have a new manager and probably a few retirements. Its a big ask to expect them to challenge straight away.

Dublin should win 4, 5 and maybe more unless they have a meltdown somewhere along the way. Its unlikely but who knows what can happen. If galway had taken their chances yesertday they would have been well up at half time. As it turned out it wouldn't have been enough but a more experienced and battle hardened team might be able to close it out if they got a lead.

It must be soul destroying for teams to look at the dublin subs coming on. Every one of them would be starters for every other county


Not necessarily. It was easy enough for the Dublin subs to come on yesterday, they weren't kicking under any pressure. Cormac Costello still isn't starting games for Dublin yet; McMenamon (sp?) rarely finishes games for Dublin he starts. Eoghan O'Gara is average enough. Dean Rock is a great freetaker but his contribution from play is often enough negligible, he's definitely not the best of his type in the country. Niall Scully was quiet yesterday and was replaced. But that's this Dublin team, collective greater than the sum of individuals. Mannion, Con O'Callaghan and Ciaran KK were/are the main threats. These need to be marked tightly to have a chance, (and a ref to clamp down on KK overcarrying.) Some team will crack it soon.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: DJGaliv on August 12, 2018, 10:17:55 AM
It all boils down for me to when you are playing Dublin you have to take your chances. We didn’t.
Very hard to take as I did think we could compete with them and maybe a bit of luck we could see what happens in the last 15 if we were staying close




You know you’re back in the serious end of the championship when other counties are groaning on within our match thread. Absolute clowns saying Mayo of 2017 would have put up more of a fight yesterday. That has as much relevance as us saying the galway 98 team would have beaten Dublin yesterday. Will have to work out this ignore version.

Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: stephenite on August 12, 2018, 10:41:13 AM
Absolute clowns saying Mayo of 2017 would have put up more of a fight yesterday. That has as much relevance as us saying the galway 98 team would have beaten Dublin yesterday.

Dead right
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: BarryBreensBandage on August 12, 2018, 10:41:36 AM
Just a comment on the Super 8 setup:

We took 80 kids from our club to the match yesterday for a day out.
We couldn't believe we would get to see a Dublin match, but got the tickets and had a fantastic day.

There is no way we would have got these number of tickets for an AISF last year.
Maybe a positive point on the Super 8s is that it makes big matches more accessible for the neutral?

I would say there would be plenty of GAA folk who would have went to the match yesterday if they had known tickets were available.
It may take a couple of years for this to filter through, but I could see this actually energising the championship.
If your own team is muck, head to Croker for the day when the big matches are on!

Whatever the style and brand of football, nothing beats going there for a big game.

Your enthusiasm is admirable but is put in the shade by your efforts in giving 80 kids a brilliant day out in a great stadium with the Dubs in their pomp and their supporters in full voice (even if it was about the referee at times). Just a pity the Galway players and supporters didn’t turn up to compete.

GRMA
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Rossfan on August 12, 2018, 11:12:30 AM
Apart from wide eyed kids very few are going to pay  €45 as a neutral to watch another victim rolling up for execution.
I hate Croke Park and the whole "experience". (Nothing to do with the 4-24s).
The Dublin customers roll up at the last minute, thousands queueing at bars, chippies and shops. It's a real soccer type thing -but at least in soccer teams have to play every 2nd game away.g
Give me a match in any Provincial ground any day of the week.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: BarryBreensBandage on August 12, 2018, 11:17:35 AM
Apart from wide eyed kids very few are going to pay  €45 as a neutral to watch another victim rolling up for execution.
I hate Croke Park and the whole "experience". (Nothing to do with the 4-24s).
The Dublin customers roll up at the last minute, thousands queueing at bars, chippies and shops. It's a real soccer type thing -but at least in soccer teams have to play every 2nd game away.g
Give me a match in any Provincial ground any day of the week.

Each to their own - I would prefer the spin to Dublin from Newry over Newry to Clones any day of the week.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: larryin89 on August 12, 2018, 11:22:00 AM
Absolute clowns saying Mayo of 2017 would have put up more of a fight yesterday. That has as much relevance as us saying the galway 98 team would have beaten Dublin yesterday.

Dead right

How is it dead right FFS , all we were saying was Mayo last year were streets ahead of what Galway showed yesterday , that's dead right make no mistake about that.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: BarryBreensBandage on August 12, 2018, 11:38:08 AM
I thought Galway were the better team in the first half yesterday.
However, I can't understand teams, especially underdogs, that try something that works, and then stop doing it.
Galway kicked a high ball in to the square at the start of the match and got a goal.
I think they kicked one more in the whole match, resorting to hail mary point efforts, when there was plenty of room round the Dublin 21 for them to work.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: dublin7 on August 12, 2018, 11:47:47 AM
Absolute clowns saying Mayo of 2017 would have put up more of a fight yesterday. That has as much relevance as us saying the galway 98 team would have beaten Dublin yesterday.

Dead right

How is it dead right FFS , all we were saying was Mayo last year were streets ahead of what Galway showed yesterday , that's dead right make no mistake about that.

This thread is about Galway v Dublin. Mayo fans need to accept they weren't good enough this year, last year or the year before. All this make believe head in the sand belief that after avoiding relegation this season by the skin of their teeth, beaten by Galway AND kildare they would somehow have gone toe to toe with the dubs. Start another make believe, fairyland  thread if you want to discuss such nonsense.

As someone pointed out to beat the dubs you need to take every chance and hope dubs make mistakes, have an off day. If Galway had scored the pen and gone maybe 4/5 in front it might have given them a 2nd wind in the 2nd half when dubs turned the screw and it would have been interesting to see how the dubs would have reacted.

One of the problems with  the shorter season is the extra expenses over a short period of time. It's been an expensive  month for Galway fans who follow both codes. Must have left some people picking and choosing which games to attend. Easy to see why if they had to miss a game for financial reasons someone would pick the football yesterday
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: criostlinn on August 12, 2018, 11:53:42 AM
Ya can talk about Mayo 2017, Galway 2001 etc till the cows come home. The simple fact of the matter is it's August. Galway don't do football after July anymore. To worried about racing and festivals and posing up and down shop street to be worried about football this time of year
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: larryin89 on August 12, 2018, 12:14:16 PM
Ok
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 12, 2018, 12:17:00 PM
Absolute clowns saying Mayo of 2017 would have put up more of a fight yesterday. That has as much relevance as us saying the galway 98 team would have beaten Dublin yesterday.

Dead right

How is it dead right FFS , all we were saying was Mayo last year were streets ahead of what Galway showed yesterday , that's dead right make no mistake about that.
Of course they were
Teams have an arc of progress and Mayo were further along but also closer to the end
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 12, 2018, 12:20:01 PM
Absolute clowns saying Mayo of 2017 would have put up more of a fight yesterday. That has as much relevance as us saying the galway 98 team would have beaten Dublin yesterday.

Dead right

How is it dead right FFS , all we were saying was Mayo last year were streets ahead of what Galway showed yesterday , that's dead right make no mistake about that.

But it's not last year. No point in harking back to the days of all thr near misses all the time.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: ballinaman on August 12, 2018, 12:23:02 PM
Looked like a sticky day yesterday. Galways ginger brigade must have found it tough.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: The Hill is Blue on August 12, 2018, 12:57:28 PM
Galway had a good first half yesterday and the penalty miss was a disaster for them, but there is no way that it cost them the game. They were only two points behind at half time, a deficit that could have been wiped out in three or four minutes if they were real contenders. But as soon as the ball was thrown in for the second half it was clear that they were not going to be able to hold on to the Dubs' coattails.
 
Commiserations to the Galway lads on this forum but as a Dubs supporter I'm delighted with the win and extremely proud of this exceptional group of lads.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: larryin89 on August 12, 2018, 01:03:54 PM
So no mention of M ... Then. Where do Galway have to improve to be genuine contenders , watching yesterday I just felt it looked obvious that Dublin had a far superior level of fitness power pace etc . Some of Dublins points in the second half were at leisure cause Galway just completely faded out due to lack of legs, there was space all over for the Dublin attack .
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: galwayman on August 12, 2018, 01:09:12 PM
Galway had a good first half yesterday and the penalty miss was a disaster for them, but there is no way that it cost them the game. They were only two points behind at half time, a deficit that could have been wiped out in three or four minutes if they were real contenders. But as soon as the ball was thrown in for the second half it was clear that they were not going to be able to hold on to the Dubs' coattails.
 
Commiserations to the Galway lads on this forum but as a Dubs supporter I'm delighted with the win and extremely proud of this exceptional group of lads.
Ah now I don’t think I’ve heard even one person suggest that the penalty miss cost us the game.
It clearly didn’t. Dublin were far superior to us after half time and would have won the game regardless no issue there.
It did change the nature of the game at the time though.
We needed to be taking chances like that as well as some of the other bad wides in that first half.
But Dublin clearly had another gear that we couldn’t live with.
As a Galway football man I’m proud of that team though.
I couldnt give a shit what anyone else says - I personally believe we have made a lot of progress this year:
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Duine Eile on August 12, 2018, 02:36:55 PM
You could analyse this game until the cows come home and say Galway should have done this, that and the other but the reality is at the start of the year this team were expected to be relegated from Division 1, get beaten by Mayo, maybe make the Super 8s, in fairness to them they surpassed all expectations. Yes they could have done much better yesterday in regards to finishing and so on but as a Galway fan I'm proud of how far they came this year. They need to learn from this year now though and push on next year, hopefully Liam Silke will be back, he's actually Galway's penalty taker and would probably have buried that one yesterday. We need changes to our half back line, Kieran Malloy came on yesterday and showed he should have gotten much more game time this year. You'd nearly hope Corofin don't go on a run in the club championship this year so we can have a full panel to pick from. Anyway, that's it for us for another year for the seniors, hopefully the hurlers and the minors can finish the job, Gaillimh Abu!
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: DJGaliv on August 12, 2018, 02:52:02 PM
I would love to see Liam Silke, Kieran Molly and even Cillian McDaid back on the panel for next year. I think we struggle in the half-back line and the increased options with lads who have pace would be massive for this team. In a game of transitions pace is king. Bringing someone like McDaid on instead of GOD would have made more of an impact. Hopefully, in the next few years he'll be home.

In midfield, Tom Flynn has been a colossus. We do miss Conroy's leadership, but having Flynn and Duggan with Cooke to come on isn't too bad.

Up front we are going well, however, we need a free-taker. Would McHugh have kicked all his frees and penalty yesterday? Hopefully we can build the team around Burke, Comer, Walsh and Daly - with Brannigan and Kelly still 22/23

Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 12, 2018, 03:06:17 PM
You could analyse this game until the cows come home and say Galway should have done this, that and the other but the reality is at the start of the year this team were expected to be relegated from Division 1, get beaten by Mayo, maybe make the Super 8s, in fairness to them they surpassed all expectations. Yes they could have done much better yesterday in regards to finishing and so on but as a Galway fan I'm proud of how far they came this year. They need to learn from this year now though and push on next year, hopefully Liam Silke will be back, he's actually Galway's penalty taker and would probably have buried that one yesterday. We need changes to our half back line, Kieran Malloy came on yesterday and showed he should have gotten much more game time this year. You'd nearly hope Corofin don't go on a run in the club championship this year so we can have a full panel to pick from. Anyway, that's it for us for another year for the seniors, hopefully the hurlers and the minors can finish the job, Gaillimh Abu!

Spot on with all that post Duine Eile, I've said it all year that the HB line is the weakest on the Galway team, in Gaelic football these days it needs to be your best or near your best line on the pitch.
No offence to the football juggernaut that is Corofin but another club winning Galway this year would be far more preferable from a county team point of view.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 12, 2018, 03:27:44 PM
Absolute clowns saying Mayo of 2017 would have put up more of a fight yesterday. That has as much relevance as us saying the galway 98 team would have beaten Dublin yesterday.

Dead right

How is it dead right FFS , all we were saying was Mayo last year were streets ahead of what Galway showed yesterday , that's dead right make no mistake about that.

Mayo last year was beaten by Galway,lucky to beat Derry at home, needed extra time to beat Cork and needed replays to beat Kerry and Roscommon. Don't let one game against one team cloud your judgement on where Mayo was last year.

Galway yesterday were every bit as expected from a side that played in their first All Ireland semi final for 17 years but over the course of the championship they played better than Mayo did last year.

Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: thebackbar1 on August 12, 2018, 09:15:01 PM
You could analyse this game until the cows come home and say Galway should have done this, that and the other but the reality is at the start of the year this team were expected to be relegated from Division 1, get beaten by Mayo, maybe make the Super 8s, in fairness to them they surpassed all expectations. Yes they could have done much better yesterday in regards to finishing and so on but as a Galway fan I'm proud of how far they came this year. They need to learn from this year now though and push on next year, hopefully Liam Silke will be back, he's actually Galway's penalty taker and would probably have buried that one yesterday. We need changes to our half back line, Kieran Malloy came on yesterday and showed he should have gotten much more game time this year. You'd nearly hope Corofin don't go on a run in the club championship this year so we can have a full panel to pick from. Anyway, that's it for us for another year for the seniors, hopefully the hurlers and the minors can finish the job, Gaillimh Abu!

Spot on with all that post Duine Eile, I've said it all year that the HB line is the weakest on the Galway team, in Gaelic football these days it needs to be your best or near your best line on the pitch.
No offence to the football juggernaut that is Corofin but another club winning Galway this year would be far more preferable from a county team point of view.

100% Duine Eile &  An Fhairce Abu

It should also be noted that a good number of the team were involved in NUIGs run to the sigerson final, how many matches has comer played for county, college and club this year, he was a student and also had a part time job pulling pints. In other big counties a nice soft "job" would of been found for him.

The galway support yesterday was terrible, i really have a problem with galway football supporters who didn't travel yesterday, didn't go to a hurling match all year, yet will be in croker next sunday.

Coming home a lot of galway supporters were commenting on how good mayo were last year to only lose by one point to Dublin, yet browsing twitter this morning i was surprised to see so many mayo supporters taking glee in galways loss. It reminds me of a fight between two blind men over a comb.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: mouview on August 12, 2018, 10:51:13 PM
Ya can talk about Mayo 2017, Galway 2001 etc till the cows come home. The simple fact of the matter is it's August. Galway don't do football after July anymore. To worried about racing and festivals and posing up and down shop street to be worried about football this time of year

Dear dear dear. Like saying Mayo don't do football after August anymore.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: kerryforsam2018 on August 13, 2018, 01:17:19 AM
McCaffrey jumped into the midfielder twice, got away with it

+1 Should have been blackcarded for blocking Galway player
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: criostlinn on August 13, 2018, 08:01:37 AM
Ya can talk about Mayo 2017, Galway 2001 etc till the cows come home. The simple fact of the matter is it's August. Galway don't do football after July anymore. To worried about racing and festivals and posing up and down shop street to be worried about football this time of year

Dear dear dear. Like saying Mayo don't do football after August anymore.

Its not really thou, is it.

I don't know. Galway fans seem happy with it so who am I to say different but Kevin Walsh has been in charge of Galway for 4 years and despite beating Mayo in 3 of them, they haven't performed in one single game after July. ie the serious end of the championship. In fact they have played 5 games in August under his reign and have lost by a combined total of 44 points.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: seafoid on August 13, 2018, 08:34:01 AM
Ya can talk about Mayo 2017, Galway 2001 etc till the cows come home. The simple fact of the matter is it's August. Galway don't do football after July anymore. To worried about racing and festivals and posing up and down shop street to be worried about football this time of year

Dear dear dear. Like saying Mayo don't do football after August anymore.

Its not really thou, is it.

I don't know. Galway fans seem happy with it so who am I to say different but Kevin Walsh has been in charge of Galway for 4 years and despite beating Mayo in 3 of them, they haven't performed in one single game after July. ie the serious end of the championship. In fact they have played 5 games in August under his reign and have lost by a combined total of 44 points.
So what. Neither team have won anything. Losing is losing.
Mayo were very unlucky to blossom at the same time as the Dubs. Maybe Galway might nick a Sam after the collapse.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: TheGreatest on August 13, 2018, 09:20:44 AM
Again, a lot of nonsense talked about on a Dublin match thread.

Dublin average score in championship is 27 points. They scored 1-24 on Saturday.

Galway put up a decent score too 2-12. Should of scored more.  Compare that to yesterdays match..

The poor attendance was more like down to Galway's lack of support, id imagine most of the Galway fans there lived in an around Dublin.  You cant blame them , Hurling replay and now the final.

I know it hurts you all that Dublin are good and winning and you haven't been able to rub it in when we lose, I know it hurts lads.

Another nice stat that you will like is the average age of Dublin team that started Saturday is 25.5.




Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: fearsiuil on August 13, 2018, 10:08:26 AM
Again, a lot of nonsense talked about on a Dublin match thread.

Dublin average score in championship is 27 points. They scored 1-24 on Saturday.

Galway put up a decent score too 2-12. Should of scored more.  Compare that to yesterdays match..

The poor attendance was more like down to Galway's lack of support, id imagine most of the Galway fans there lived in an around Dublin.  You cant blame them , Hurling replay and now the final.

I know it hurts you all that Dublin are good and winning and you haven't been able to rub it in when we lose, I know it hurts lads.

Another nice stat that you will like is the average age of Dublin team that started Saturday is 25.5.
Involved with Dublin club, we could not get rid of 2 Hill and 2 excellent halfway line stand tickets for this match. Stand tickets were given away just to use them. That is a first for us.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: TheGreatest on August 13, 2018, 10:14:39 AM
Again, a lot of nonsense talked about on a Dublin match thread.

Dublin average score in championship is 27 points. They scored 1-24 on Saturday.

Galway put up a decent score too 2-12. Should of scored more.  Compare that to yesterdays match..

The poor attendance was more like down to Galway's lack of support, id imagine most of the Galway fans there lived in an around Dublin.  You cant blame them , Hurling replay and now the final.

I know it hurts you all that Dublin are good and winning and you haven't been able to rub it in when we lose, I know it hurts lads.

Another nice stat that you will like is the average age of Dublin team that started Saturday is 25.5.
Involved with Dublin club, we could not get rid of 2 Hill and 2 excellent halfway line stand tickets for this match. Stand tickets were given away just to use them. That is a first for us.

Definitely a bit of that going on, seen some myself, however the majority of the support of the 54K was Dublin support.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 13, 2018, 10:17:37 AM
Ya can talk about Mayo 2017, Galway 2001 etc till the cows come home. The simple fact of the matter is it's August. Galway don't do football after July anymore. To worried about racing and festivals and posing up and down shop street to be worried about football this time of year

Dear dear dear. Like saying Mayo don't do football after August anymore.

Its not really thou, is it.

I don't know. Galway fans seem happy with it so who am I to say different but Kevin Walsh has been in charge of Galway for 4 years and despite beating Mayo in 3 of them, they haven't performed in one single game after July. ie the serious end of the championship. In fact they have played 5 games in August under his reign and have lost by a combined total of 44 points.

Given that the schedule has dramatically changed this year I don't see the logic of this "not performing in August" narrative to be honest. Are we to assume that the Super 8s Kildare and Kerry results should be disregarded because the games were in July? Is qualifying for the semi final for the first time in 17 years worthless because that was secured in July and not at the "business end"? What worth are we to really put on the Monaghan match given the uniqueness of the circumstances?

Mayo fans seen to have delighted in the result Saturday, if ye are happy taking plaudits for coming very close to Dublin over the past few years and that the likely All Ireland result will somehow confirm that Mayo are the second best team in the country, great. If you want to take this also as confirmation of Mayo's superiority to Galway as a football team, that's fine as well. It is all irrelevant to anyone in Galway as we have more than enough problems to fix ourselves in 2019. The assumption seems to be that Mayo will bounce back to challenge Dublin next year again, we'll have to wait and see.

Am I happy with Galway's end to the season? Of course not. Next year will require big improvements to get to where we need to be. We may never get there.
For those of us who closely follow Galway through league and championship though, there is a clear distinction between the capability and the overall squad quality from 2015 to now and I struggle to see how anyone can make the argument it hasn't improved.

Hopefully given the club issues Croke Park might look at changing the semi finals and the final into July to free up August and September for the clubs, perhaps this is going to be the only way Galway will get any joy moving forward as opposed to trying to further improve.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Halfquarter on August 13, 2018, 10:49:18 AM
Ya can talk about Mayo 2017, Galway 2001 etc till the cows come home. The simple fact of the matter is it's August. Galway don't do football after July anymore. To worried about racing and festivals and posing up and down shop street to be worried about football this time of year

Dear dear dear. Like saying Mayo don't do football after August anymore.

Its not really thou, is it.

I don't know. Galway fans seem happy with it so who am I to say different but Kevin Walsh has been in charge of Galway for 4 years and despite beating Mayo in 3 of them, they haven't performed in one single game after July. ie the serious end of the championship. In fact they have played 5 games in August under his reign and have lost by a combined total of 44 points.

Given that the schedule has dramatically changed this year I don't see the logic of this "not performing in August" narrative to be honest. Are we to assume that the Super 8s Kildare and Kerry results should be disregarded because the games were in July? Is qualifying for the semi final for the first time in 17 years worthless because that was secured in July and not at the "business end"? What worth are we to really put on the Monaghan match given the uniqueness of the circumstances?

Mayo fans seen to have delighted in the result Saturday, if ye are happy taking plaudits for coming very close to Dublin over the past few years and that the likely All Ireland result will somehow confirm that Mayo are the second best team in the country, great. If you want to take this also as confirmation of Mayo's superiority to Galway as a football team, that's fine as well. It is all irrelevant to anyone in Galway as we have more than enough problems to fix ourselves in 2019. The assumption seems to be that Mayo will bounce back to challenge Dublin next year again, we'll have to wait and see.

Am I happy with Galway's end to the season? Of course not. Next year will require big improvements to get to where we need to be. We may never get there.
For those of us who closely follow Galway through league and championship though, there is a clear distinction between the capability and the overall squad quality from 2015 to now and I struggle to see how anyone can make the argument it hasn't improved.

Hopefully given the club issues Croke Park might look at changing the semi finals and the final into July to free up August and September for the clubs, perhaps this is going to be the only way Galway will get any joy moving forward as opposed to trying to further improve.

Galway have been well beaten in their last two championship matches, giving out about what fans from other counties think is not going to change that fact.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: thebackbar1 on August 13, 2018, 11:19:59 AM
Ya can talk about Mayo 2017, Galway 2001 etc till the cows come home. The simple fact of the matter is it's August. Galway don't do football after July anymore. To worried about racing and festivals and posing up and down shop street to be worried about football this time of year

Dear dear dear. Like saying Mayo don't do football after August anymore.

Its not really thou, is it.

I don't know. Galway fans seem happy with it so who am I to say different but Kevin Walsh has been in charge of Galway for 4 years and despite beating Mayo in 3 of them, they haven't performed in one single game after July. ie the serious end of the championship. In fact they have played 5 games in August under his reign and have lost by a combined total of 44 points.

Given that the schedule has dramatically changed this year I don't see the logic of this "not performing in August" narrative to be honest. Are we to assume that the Super 8s Kildare and Kerry results should be disregarded because the games were in July? Is qualifying for the semi final for the first time in 17 years worthless because that was secured in July and not at the "business end"? What worth are we to really put on the Monaghan match given the uniqueness of the circumstances?

Mayo fans seen to have delighted in the result Saturday, if ye are happy taking plaudits for coming very close to Dublin over the past few years and that the likely All Ireland result will somehow confirm that Mayo are the second best team in the country, great. If you want to take this also as confirmation of Mayo's superiority to Galway as a football team, that's fine as well. It is all irrelevant to anyone in Galway as we have more than enough problems to fix ourselves in 2019. The assumption seems to be that Mayo will bounce back to challenge Dublin next year again, we'll have to wait and see.

Am I happy with Galway's end to the season? Of course not. Next year will require big improvements to get to where we need to be. We may never get there.
For those of us who closely follow Galway through league and championship though, there is a clear distinction between the capability and the overall squad quality from 2015 to now and I struggle to see how anyone can make the argument it hasn't improved.

Hopefully given the club issues Croke Park might look at changing the semi finals and the final into July to free up August and September for the clubs, perhaps this is going to be the only way Galway will get any joy moving forward as opposed to trying to further improve.

Galway have been well beaten in their last two championship matches, giving out about what fans from other counties think is not going to change that fact.
Where did someone suggest that it would change the fact ?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: kerryforsam2018 on August 13, 2018, 11:26:43 AM
Again, a lot of nonsense talked about on a Dublin match thread.

Dublin average score in championship is 27 points. They scored 1-24 on Saturday.

Galway put up a decent score too 2-12. Should of scored more.  Compare that to yesterdays match..

The poor attendance was more like down to Galway's lack of support, id imagine most of the Galway fans there lived in an around Dublin.  You cant blame them , Hurling replay and now the final.

I know it hurts you all that Dublin are good and winning and you haven't been able to rub it in when we lose, I know it hurts lads.

Another nice stat that you will like is the average age of Dublin team that started Saturday is 25.5.
Involved with Dublin club, we could not get rid of 2 Hill and 2 excellent halfway line stand tickets for this match. Stand tickets were given away just to use them. That is a first for us.

Definitely a bit of that going on, seen some myself, however the majority of the support of the 54K was Dublin support.

The premiership is back.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 13, 2018, 11:32:49 AM
Galway have been well beaten in their last two championship matches, giving out about what fans from other counties think is not going to change that fact.

I have no idea where you're going with this, sure who could possibly dispute that? It clear to be seen that we were well beaten on Saturday, of course there is no changing that fact.
People are more than welcome to have a pop but at least keep it to what has happened on the pitch in 2018, dismissing two Q-final round wins because the matches took place in July as opposed to August, what's the point of that when trying to assess the overall championship performance.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 13, 2018, 11:49:10 AM
Look at the start of the year if you were a Galway fan and were offered a place in the league final, a Connacht title, A championship win in Croke Park and over Kerry as well plus a spot in an All-Ireland semi-final, well you would have bitten the arm of whoever offered it. What we learned is that this is still a young side who are not at Dublin's level but so what neither is anyone else. More importantly they will get better whether it's under Kevin Walsh or not. They'll have a few players back next year and they are not hurting for young talent coming through either. They will probably be at the business end of the Super 8's for the next few years but making the jump to compete with Dublin is a fair old gap to bridge at present.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 13, 2018, 12:00:33 PM
They'll have a few players back next year

Is there any truth at all to the rumour I saw elsewhere that Cillian McDaid is returning from Australia? I would have thought it unlikely at this point in time.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 13, 2018, 12:04:10 PM
They'll have a few players back next year

Is there any truth at all to the rumour I saw elsewhere that Cillian McDaid is returning from Australia? I would have thought it unlikely at this point in time.

Seems a bit early for him to be let go unless he wanted to come home himself. He went to loads of AFL trials so I can't imagine he'd just pack it in that quickly.

He has to potential to be Galway's Jack McCaffrey though if he were around. Got the same blistering speed and well able to take his score.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: TheGreatest on August 13, 2018, 12:10:07 PM
Again, a lot of nonsense talked about on a Dublin match thread.

Dublin average score in championship is 27 points. They scored 1-24 on Saturday.

Galway put up a decent score too 2-12. Should of scored more.  Compare that to yesterdays match..

The poor attendance was more like down to Galway's lack of support, id imagine most of the Galway fans there lived in an around Dublin.  You cant blame them , Hurling replay and now the final.

I know it hurts you all that Dublin are good and winning and you haven't been able to rub it in when we lose, I know it hurts lads.

Another nice stat that you will like is the average age of Dublin team that started Saturday is 25.5.
Involved with Dublin club, we could not get rid of 2 Hill and 2 excellent halfway line stand tickets for this match. Stand tickets were given away just to use them. That is a first for us.

Definitely a bit of that going on, seen some myself, however the majority of the support of the 54K was Dublin support.

The premiership is back.

Good one, Haven't heard that one before....

Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on August 13, 2018, 01:48:05 PM
Galway have been well beaten in their last two championship matches, giving out about what fans from other counties think is not going to change that fact.

I have no idea where you're going with this, sure who could possibly dispute that? It clear to be seen that we were well beaten on Saturday, of course there is no changing that fact.
People are more than welcome to have a pop but at least keep it to what has happened on the pitch in 2018, dismissing two Q-final round wins because the matches took place in July as opposed to August, what's the point of that when trying to assess the overall championship performance.
Ye are wasting yer time arguing with some lads on here - they have some sort of an agenda or just don’t want to see Galway improve, which a blind man could see this year!

I was very apprehensive going to Tuam for the first league game this year as I honestly thought we would struggle in D1 and overall but have been pleasantly surprised with the way the lads performed overall.  If we can improve close to as much again next year, with a few key additional players, we should be thereabouts again.  Onwards and upwards and sure we have a minor football and hurling  final to look forward to and the seniors trying to go back to back - how bad!!!
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jinxy on August 13, 2018, 01:59:02 PM
Realistically, Galway need a new HB line.
Need to increase pace and work rate a la Mayo.
Probably the most important line on the field.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 13, 2018, 02:12:27 PM
Realistically, Galway need a new HB line.
Need to increase pace and work rate a la Mayo.
Probably the most important line on the field.

100% correct on the HB line issue, it's easier said than done though, the likes of Keegan and McCaffery aren't available to every county.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Crete Boom on August 13, 2018, 02:21:52 PM
Realistically, Galway need a new HB line.
Need to increase pace and work rate a la Mayo.
Probably the most important line on the field.

100% correct on the HB line issue, it's easier said than done though, the likes of Keegan and McCaffery aren't available to every county.

I though Bradshaw had a good year and Molloy is a serious talent too. With O'Ceallaigh and Kerin that should be 4 of the back 6 for next year which is a huge improvement from 3 years ago. Personally I would have Power in goals ahead of Lavelle but Walsh seems to really like Lavelle.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 13, 2018, 02:34:55 PM
Realistically, Galway need a new HB line.
Need to increase pace and work rate a la Mayo.
Probably the most important line on the field.

100% correct on the HB line issue, it's easier said than done though, the likes of Keegan and McCaffery aren't available to every county.

I though Bradshaw had a good year and Molloy is a serious talent too. With O'Ceallaigh and Kerin that should be 4 of the back 6 for next year which is a huge improvement from 3 years ago. Personally I would have Power in goals ahead of Lavelle but Walsh seems to really like Lavelle.

Bradshaw had his best year in a good while but he's 31 now and the elder statesman on the team. Molloy and Wall from Corofin by right should get a lot of game time in the league next year but the problem is Corofin keep winning in Galway and are usually a decent bet to win Connacht after so we often don't see the Corofin players until later in the year. Liam Silke is another who should be back and who can play corner-back or wing-back. Getting McDaid back from AFL would be great but I can't see it happening just yet.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 14, 2018, 09:06:59 AM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/galway-boost-as-cillian-mcdaid-tipped-to-end-afl-journey-37213403.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/galway-boost-as-cillian-mcdaid-tipped-to-end-afl-journey-37213403.html)

Must be something to the rumours after all, a bit surprised he's coming back so soon but he is a player who could potentially give the Galway HB line a big boost next year.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Duine Eile on August 14, 2018, 09:28:16 AM
That's very positively news but a bit surprising alright, himself and Liam Silke would really strengthen that back 6. I'd say Tally is gone by the sound of things, be interesting to see what that means for Kevin Walsh's backroom team, I believe he's been fairly non-conmital himself.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: galwayman on August 14, 2018, 10:23:43 AM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/galway-boost-as-cillian-mcdaid-tipped-to-end-afl-journey-37213403.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/galway-boost-as-cillian-mcdaid-tipped-to-end-afl-journey-37213403.html)

Must be something to the rumours after all, a bit surprised he's coming back so soon but he is a player who could potentially give the Galway HB line a big boost next year.
Our half backs are all individually decent players but what they lack is a real attacking cutting edge/threat that the likes of Keegan, Durcan & Vaughan provided for Mayo when they were at their strongest.
McDaid is very pacy so should give us extra attacking thrust. Getting Silke back is also a big plus especially as he can ply in both the full & half back lines.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 14, 2018, 12:08:40 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/galway-boost-as-cillian-mcdaid-tipped-to-end-afl-journey-37213403.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/galway-boost-as-cillian-mcdaid-tipped-to-end-afl-journey-37213403.html)

Must be something to the rumours after all, a bit surprised he's coming back so soon but he is a player who could potentially give the Galway HB line a big boost next year.

Great news alright. Has the potential to be real top quality in a position of need for Galway. Surprised he's coming back so soon. He seemed mad keen to try AFL. Went to every trial going.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Duine Eile on August 14, 2018, 12:13:21 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/galway-boost-as-cillian-mcdaid-tipped-to-end-afl-journey-37213403.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/galway-boost-as-cillian-mcdaid-tipped-to-end-afl-journey-37213403.html)

Must be something to the rumours after all, a bit surprised he's coming back so soon but he is a player who could potentially give the Galway HB line a big boost next year.

Great news alright. Has the potential to be real top quality in a position of need for Galway. Surprised he's coming back so soon. He seemed mad keen to try AFL. Went to every trial going.

Did he not get a 2 year contract? Be great if he comes back but does he not have to see out the contract or how does that work?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: mouview on August 14, 2018, 12:20:07 PM
Realistically, Galway need a new HB line.
Need to increase pace and work rate a la Mayo.
Probably the most important line on the field.

100% correct on the HB line issue, it's easier said than done though, the likes of Keegan and McCaffery aren't available to every county.

I though Bradshaw had a good year and Molloy is a serious talent too. With O'Ceallaigh and Kerin that should be 4 of the back 6 for next year which is a huge improvement from 3 years ago. Personally I would have Power in goals ahead of Lavelle but Walsh seems to really like Lavelle.

Bradshaw hadn't a bad year, but isn't the stopper / defensive shield we need and time is against him. If KW insists in picking Cathal Sweeney, Heaney, GOD, then he has to go.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Zulu on August 14, 2018, 12:25:28 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/galway-boost-as-cillian-mcdaid-tipped-to-end-afl-journey-37213403.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/galway-boost-as-cillian-mcdaid-tipped-to-end-afl-journey-37213403.html)

Must be something to the rumours after all, a bit surprised he's coming back so soon but he is a player who could potentially give the Galway HB line a big boost next year.

Great news alright. Has the potential to be real top quality in a position of need for Galway. Surprised he's coming back so soon. He seemed mad keen to try AFL. Went to every trial going.

Was listening to Conor Nash and thought he said that himself, Conor Glass and McDaid were moving in together in November. Would have thought that would suggest he was staying.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: MayoBuck on August 14, 2018, 12:33:56 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/galway-boost-as-cillian-mcdaid-tipped-to-end-afl-journey-37213403.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/galway-boost-as-cillian-mcdaid-tipped-to-end-afl-journey-37213403.html)

Must be something to the rumours after all, a bit surprised he's coming back so soon but he is a player who could potentially give the Galway HB line a big boost next year.

Great news alright. Has the potential to be real top quality in a position of need for Galway. Surprised he's coming back so soon. He seemed mad keen to try AFL. Went to every trial going.

Was listening to Conor Nash and thought he said that himself, Conor Glass and McDaid were moving in together in November. Would have thought that would suggest he was staying.

I was actually talking to a guy from Monivea a few months back and he said McDaid loves it out there. Would be a big boost for Galway of it's true, he was excellent for the U21s last year.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Duine Eile on August 14, 2018, 12:51:40 PM
Realistically, Galway need a new HB line.
Need to increase pace and work rate a la Mayo.
Probably the most important line on the field.

100% correct on the HB line issue, it's easier said than done though, the likes of Keegan and McCaffery aren't available to every county.

I though Bradshaw had a good year and Molloy is a serious talent too. With O'Ceallaigh and Kerin that should be 4 of the back 6 for next year which is a huge improvement from 3 years ago. Personally I would have Power in goals ahead of Lavelle but Walsh seems to really like Lavelle.

Bradshaw hadn't a bad year, but isn't the stopper / defensive shield we need and time is against him. If KW insists in picking Cathal Sweeney, Heaney, GOD, then he has to go.

Bradshaw is grand when he can go forward but he's lost when the centre forward runs at him, the amount of times Kilkenny was on his own and the space he was given on Saturday was ridiculous. Also throwing Molloy on with ten minutes to go, getting well beaten at the time for his first bit of action all championship was an insult to the lad. I think this McDaid story has grown legs to be honest, he hasn't even a full year done out there yet has he?
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 14, 2018, 01:16:30 PM
Realistically, Galway need a new HB line.
Need to increase pace and work rate a la Mayo.
Probably the most important line on the field.

100% correct on the HB line issue, it's easier said than done though, the likes of Keegan and McCaffery aren't available to every county.

I though Bradshaw had a good year and Molloy is a serious talent too. With O'Ceallaigh and Kerin that should be 4 of the back 6 for next year which is a huge improvement from 3 years ago. Personally I would have Power in goals ahead of Lavelle but Walsh seems to really like Lavelle.

Bradshaw hadn't a bad year, but isn't the stopper / defensive shield we need and time is against him. If KW insists in picking Cathal Sweeney, Heaney, GOD, then he has to go.

Bradshaw is grand when he can go forward but he's lost when the centre forward runs at him, the amount of times Kilkenny was on his own and the space he was given on Saturday was ridiculous. Also throwing Molloy on with ten minutes to go, getting well beaten at the time for his first bit of action all championship was an insult to the lad. I think this McDaid story has grown legs to be honest, he hasn't even a full year done out there yet has he?

Think he went over last autumn. You'd imagine Keys wouldn't have gone so strong with it unless he had a good source but I know how keen the lad was to go which makes me surprised he's coming back. There were some rumours going around alright but Keys must have heard something more concrete from somebody. Then again I guess we'll soon find out.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: thebackbar1 on August 14, 2018, 01:25:17 PM
Realistically, Galway need a new HB line.
Need to increase pace and work rate a la Mayo.
Probably the most important line on the field.

100% correct on the HB line issue, it's easier said than done though, the likes of Keegan and McCaffery aren't available to every county.

I though Bradshaw had a good year and Molloy is a serious talent too. With O'Ceallaigh and Kerin that should be 4 of the back 6 for next year which is a huge improvement from 3 years ago. Personally I would have Power in goals ahead of Lavelle but Walsh seems to really like Lavelle.

Bradshaw hadn't a bad year, but isn't the stopper / defensive shield we need and time is against him. If KW insists in picking Cathal Sweeney, Heaney, GOD, then he has to go.

What half back line would you have fielded instead this year  ?  We can talk about the deficiencies in the players Walsh has started but you need to throw up tangible replacements !
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on August 14, 2018, 01:59:18 PM
Disappointing but inevitable end to a good year; Losing to Monaghan whilst playing a full strength team was a killer blow, we had to beat Monaghan once he'd gone with such a strong team. Would like to have seen how Galway would have done with 3 weeks preparation facing the Dubs instead of the 1.

Echo the thoughts of the Galway posters on here, plenty to be positive about. It's been a very good year, there's been huge improvements all over he pitch from 12 months ago, don't see any reason why they kickon again next year given the age of the panel and that they've only just had one year in Div 1.

The way Galway setup defensively needs to be worked on too as well as personnel changes to the half back line. Dublin got too many soft scores in that first half probably as a result of having too many players covering the D;

The amount of steps Kilkenny takes needs addressing, he knows exactly what he's doing and it's one of the reasons why he's such a productive player.



Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Duine Eile on August 14, 2018, 02:41:32 PM
Wouldn't a half back line of Kieran Molloy, Daithí Burke and Cillian McDaid be fantastic, pity we'll never see it.  :(
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on August 14, 2018, 05:09:02 PM
Disappointing but inevitable end to a good year; Losing to Monaghan whilst playing a full strength team was a killer blow, we had to beat Monaghan once he'd gone with such a strong team. Would like to have seen how Galway would have done with 3 weeks preparation facing the Dubs instead of the 1.

Echo the thoughts of the Galway posters on here, plenty to be positive about. It's been a very good year, there's been huge improvements all over he pitch from 12 months ago, don't see any reason why they kickon again next year given the age of the panel and that they've only just had one year in Div 1.

The way Galway setup defensively needs to be worked on too as well as personnel changes to the half back line. Dublin got too many soft scores in that first half probably as a result of having too many players covering the D;

The amount of steps Kilkenny takes needs addressing, he knows exactly what he's doing and it's one of the reasons why he's such a productive player.

This is the huge challenge for next year. There are so many variables at the moment that it's impossible to predict how we'll go, there will be at the very least a new coach, possibly a whole new management team altogether.
Given how this year went I think that Galway are within in the top 5-6 teams at the moment, it's going to be a big job just to try and maintain that status as a Division One team year in year out besides anything else, every other team will be looking to get better as well and the Dubs clearly aren't going anywhere. The greater aim is to find another 3-4 players of the required standard to improve the team/squad and up the overall performance levels, easy say that, harder to do it. If the McDaid news is true then that is potentially (and only potentially) one of those players, you're looking for others to make a serious step up from underage or the current squad fringes (the likes of Molloy, D'Arcy, Cunningham) or for club players like Duggan who weren't seen in a Galway jersey previously to get a chance and take it.

I did feel that some of the Galway players who performed well in the league looked to be running on fumes by the time of the Super 8 stage, others seemed to be still going relatively ok. It will be interesting to see whether as much effort is put into the league campaign next year.
Some players who were in the squad this year will be gone next year, there were 11 changes to the make-up of the Galway championship squad from 2017 to this year, that is a substantial turnover in numbers and it could be as many again next year for all we know at the minute.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 14, 2018, 08:19:46 PM
Just listened to the GAA Hour there and the big problem they identified in the Galway team is unsurprisingly the half-back line. Any team that competes for the AI title in recent years (Dublin, Mayo, Tyrone) has had an athletic hard running half-back line that can punch holes up the field and through opposition defences. They liked Bradshaw but felt Sweeney and Kelly are not fit for purpose at the top level. A bit harsh on Sean Kelly I thought who has shown a lot of promise for someone so young. I think he's more a wing-forward anyway. Bradshaw has been decent alright but realistically isn't getting any younger.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Duine Eile on August 14, 2018, 08:30:37 PM
Kelly is good but what exactly is his role? A runner between half back and half forward? In that case who plays his position at number 5, Johnny Heaney? It's not working if that's the case. Kelly has seen some amount of ball from his own goal line right up to the full forward line but you'd wonder what sense it's making, not doing him any justice either.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 14, 2018, 09:16:56 PM
Kelly is good but what exactly is his role? A runner between half back and half forward? In that case who plays his position at number 5, Johnny Heaney? It's not working if that's the case. Kelly has seen some amount of ball from his own goal line right up to the full forward line but you'd wonder what sense it's making, not doing him any justice either.

McDaid and Silke back next year
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Duine Eile on August 14, 2018, 09:30:18 PM
Kelly is good but what exactly is his role? A runner between half back and half forward? In that case who plays his position at number 5, Johnny Heaney? It's not working if that's the case. Kelly has seen some amount of ball from his own goal line right up to the full forward line but you'd wonder what sense it's making, not doing him any justice either.

McDaid and Silke back next year

Hopefully yes, I was more thinking about the role Sean Kelly played this year.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Jinxy on August 14, 2018, 10:19:09 PM
I thought Kelly was playing wing forward the last day.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Duine Eile on August 14, 2018, 11:09:06 PM
I thought Kelly was playing wing forward the last day.

He wears 5, Johnny Heaney wears 12 and they usually swap position for some reason. Kelly spends an awful lot of time in his own defence though, he cleared a goal off the line on Saturday. He seems awful lost at times.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: MayoBuck on August 15, 2018, 12:05:31 AM
I thought Kelly was playing wing forward the last day.

I think Kelly was playing in the backs usually marking Scully. Heaney was in the forwards marking McCaffrey.
Title: Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on August 25, 2018, 10:47:56 AM
Kevin Walsh was on off the ball am yesterday morning, anybody listen to it?