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Title: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: The PRO on July 11, 2018, 11:23:10 AM
Round 1

Heath v Kilcavan
Spink v Graigue
Stradbally v Ballyroan Abbey
Errill v Camross
Annanough v Harps
Killeshin v Ballylinan
Port v Portlaoise
Park Ratheniska v O'Dempseys
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: SCFC on July 11, 2018, 03:26:40 PM
Hard championship to call. Annanough should be favourites having come down from intermediate. Park should be there or thereabouts. Think Kilcavan are getting too old.
Of the second teams, Graigue,  Port, The Heath and maybe Stradbally will go well.
I'll guess at a Park v Annanough final.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 11, 2018, 10:20:34 PM
I  wouldn’t write off our Juniors this year
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Heshs Umpire on July 17, 2018, 12:15:00 PM
O'Dempseys junior A team will be good too. Could've been in the Final last year with any luck. Won't lose many to senior team. 
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 31, 2018, 12:45:04 AM
Results
Annanough         2-16
The Harps           1-7
   
Park-Ratheniska  1-12
O’Dempsey’s       0-8

The Heath           1-10
Kilcavan              4-11

Killeshin              1-07
Ballylinan            1-08

Portarlington       1-10
Portlaoise            6-08

Spink                  1-9
Graiguecullen      3-15

Stradbally           1-6
Ballyroan Abbey  3-14
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Joeythelips on August 03, 2018, 10:56:17 AM
Interesting first round, some serious big scores put up by second teams. Here are next round of fixtures:
06/08/2018
18:00   Errill   vs Camross
07/08/2018
19:30   Kilcavan vs Baile Uí Laigheanáin   
09/08/2018
19:15   Annanough vs Graiguecullen
19:15   Portlaoise vs Ballyroan Abbey
19:15   Stradbally vs Killeshin
10/08/2018
19:15   Spink vs O'Dempseys
19:15   The Heath vs Portarlington
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: The PRO on August 03, 2018, 02:27:23 PM
Interesting first round, some serious big scores put up by second teams. Here are next round of fixtures:
06/08/2018
18:00   Errill   vs Camross
07/08/2018
19:30   Kilcavan vs Baile Uí Laigheanáin   
09/08/2018
19:15   Annanough vs Graiguecullen
19:15   Portlaoise vs Ballyroan Abbey
19:15   Stradbally vs Killeshin
10/08/2018
19:15   Spink vs O'Dempseys
19:15   The Heath vs Portarlington
Expect your lads to take care of Ballylinan Joey.
Annanough should be the team to beat although you'd never know what Graigue might have.
Surprised that Port and The Heath are playing for survival but whoever wins it could go well yet.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Joeythelips on August 06, 2018, 11:23:49 AM
Interesting first round, some serious big scores put up by second teams. Here are next round of fixtures:
06/08/2018
18:00   Errill   vs Camross
07/08/2018
19:30   Kilcavan vs Baile Uí Laigheanáin   
09/08/2018
19:15   Annanough vs Graiguecullen
19:15   Portlaoise vs Ballyroan Abbey
19:15   Stradbally vs Killeshin
10/08/2018
19:15   Spink vs O'Dempseys
19:15   The Heath vs Portarlington
Expect your lads to take care of Ballylinan Joey.
Annanough should be the team to beat although you'd never know what Graigue might have.
Surprised that Port and The Heath are playing for survival but whoever wins it could go well yet.

Never straightforward with Kilcavan, I guess its the same for most clubs with a small pool of players. As can be seen from the league results Kilcavan lost 7 and won 3, yet the 3 they won were against Annanough, Park & Timahoe. So if Kilcavan have their strongest 15 available they are a match for most teams at junior and intermediate level but even losing one or two players can have a big impact on them.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Don Draper on August 07, 2018, 12:16:48 PM
Interesting first round, some serious big scores put up by second teams. Here are next round of fixtures:
06/08/2018
18:00   Errill   vs Camross
07/08/2018
19:30   Kilcavan vs Baile Uí Laigheanáin   
09/08/2018
19:15   Annanough vs Graiguecullen
19:15   Portlaoise vs Ballyroan Abbey
19:15   Stradbally vs Killeshin
10/08/2018
19:15   Spink vs O'Dempseys
19:15   The Heath vs Portarlington
Expect your lads to take care of Ballylinan Joey.
Annanough should be the team to beat although you'd never know what Graigue might have.
Surprised that Port and The Heath are playing for survival but whoever wins it could go well yet.

Never straightforward with Kilcavan, I guess its the same for most clubs with a small pool of players. As can be seen from the league results Kilcavan lost 7 and won 3, yet the 3 they won were against Annanough, Park & Timahoe. So if Kilcavan have their strongest 15 available they are a match for most teams at junior and intermediate level but even losing one or two players can have a big impact on them.
Did they not lose to Annanough by like 40 points?
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Joeythelips on August 07, 2018, 11:10:01 PM
Interesting first round, some serious big scores put up by second teams. Here are next round of fixtures:
06/08/2018
18:00   Errill   vs Camross
07/08/2018
19:30   Kilcavan vs Baile Uí Laigheanáin   
09/08/2018
19:15   Annanough vs Graiguecullen
19:15   Portlaoise vs Ballyroan Abbey
19:15   Stradbally vs Killeshin
10/08/2018
19:15   Spink vs O'Dempseys
19:15   The Heath vs Portarlington
Expect your lads to take care of Ballylinan Joey.
Annanough should be the team to beat although you'd never know what Graigue might have.
Surprised that Port and The Heath are playing for survival but whoever wins it could go well yet.

Never straightforward with Kilcavan, I guess its the same for most clubs with a small pool of players. As can be seen from the league results Kilcavan lost 7 and won 3, yet the 3 they won were against Annanough, Park & Timahoe. So if Kilcavan have their strongest 15 available they are a match for most teams at junior and intermediate level but even losing one or two players can have a big impact on them.
Did they not lose to Annanough by like 40 points?

Yes, they were hammered in the relegation playoff against Annanough but think they were missing 4 or 5 starters that day, but they beat them in the original league game 2-12 to 2-09, when they had a full pick. Which basically illustrates my point.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Don Draper on August 08, 2018, 09:34:08 AM
Interesting first round, some serious big scores put up by second teams. Here are next round of fixtures:
06/08/2018
18:00   Errill   vs Camross
07/08/2018
19:30   Kilcavan vs Baile Uí Laigheanáin   
09/08/2018
19:15   Annanough vs Graiguecullen
19:15   Portlaoise vs Ballyroan Abbey
19:15   Stradbally vs Killeshin
10/08/2018
19:15   Spink vs O'Dempseys
19:15   The Heath vs Portarlington
Expect your lads to take care of Ballylinan Joey.
Annanough should be the team to beat although you'd never know what Graigue might have.
Surprised that Port and The Heath are playing for survival but whoever wins it could go well yet.

Never straightforward with Kilcavan, I guess its the same for most clubs with a small pool of players. As can be seen from the league results Kilcavan lost 7 and won 3, yet the 3 they won were against Annanough, Park & Timahoe. So if Kilcavan have their strongest 15 available they are a match for most teams at junior and intermediate level but even losing one or two players can have a big impact on them.
Did they not lose to Annanough by like 40 points?

Yes, they were hammered in the relegation playoff against Annanough but think they were missing 4 or 5 starters that day, but they beat them in the original league game 2-12 to 2-09, when they had a full pick. Which basically illustrates my point.
While your point may be valid, I'd proffer the suggestion that Annanough in the league and Annanough in the championship/knock out situation are quite a different beast.

I see they hammered Ballylinan last night, 10 goals in 2 games, they're high scoring thats for sure.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Joeythelips on August 08, 2018, 11:13:49 AM
Interesting first round, some serious big scores put up by second teams. Here are next round of fixtures:
06/08/2018
18:00   Errill   vs Camross
07/08/2018
19:30   Kilcavan vs Baile Uí Laigheanáin   
09/08/2018
19:15   Annanough vs Graiguecullen
19:15   Portlaoise vs Ballyroan Abbey
19:15   Stradbally vs Killeshin
10/08/2018
19:15   Spink vs O'Dempseys
19:15   The Heath vs Portarlington
Expect your lads to take care of Ballylinan Joey.
Annanough should be the team to beat although you'd never know what Graigue might have.
Surprised that Port and The Heath are playing for survival but whoever wins it could go well yet.

Never straightforward with Kilcavan, I guess its the same for most clubs with a small pool of players. As can be seen from the league results Kilcavan lost 7 and won 3, yet the 3 they won were against Annanough, Park & Timahoe. So if Kilcavan have their strongest 15 available they are a match for most teams at junior and intermediate level but even losing one or two players can have a big impact on them.
Did they not lose to Annanough by like 40 points?

Yes, they were hammered in the relegation playoff against Annanough but think they were missing 4 or 5 starters that day, but they beat them in the original league game 2-12 to 2-09, when they had a full pick. Which basically illustrates my point.
While your point may be valid, I'd proffer the suggestion that Annanough in the league and Annanough in the championship/knock out situation are quite a different beast.

I see they hammered Ballylinan last night, 10 goals in 2 games, they're high scoring thats for sure.

Yes of course Annanough or any side really are a different animal when knockout games come around, basically the point I was making it can be hard to judge teams who have a small pool of players such as Kilcavan. Clubs with larger squads could absorb a couple of players missing without too much difference to the side, a club like Kilcavan struggle with losses as is evident with the mad swings in their results and performances. I will put it this way, if they were to meet Annanough in knockout championship this year and both sides are full strength I very much doubt one side will win by 40 points or whatever the Div 2 playoff result was.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Unlaoised on August 08, 2018, 11:19:33 AM
A round of Junior C games on tonight I see Slieve Bloom complained to the county board about their players having two games one night after another tonight as a stand alone club and tomorrow with the Ballyfin Gaels ....Ballyfin are down to play tonight as well in the junior football surely thats not right?

Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Don Draper on August 08, 2018, 11:31:25 AM
A round of Junior C games on tonight I see Slieve Bloom complained to the county board about their players having two games one night after another tonight as a stand alone club and tomorrow with the Ballyfin Gaels ....Ballyfin are down to play tonight as well in the junior football surely thats not right?
Too many f**king amalgamations. Spare a thought for the County Board trying to fix games, what f**king hope have they?! Clubs and players can't have it every which way. Take Michael Bermingham for example, Kilcavan, Mountmellick and Ballyfin Gaels, like how would you even go about sort out that fixture list? Ballypickas are amalgamated with Margy in IHC and then with Shanahoe in SHCA. Its quite frankly ridiculous. Amalgamations need sorting out in this county, once and for all. Kinsella was right with what he said about Mountmellick Gaels, and its only the tip of the iceberg.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: From the Terrace on August 08, 2018, 01:22:15 PM
agree with all that. if you can dream it, the county board will allow it. Farcical setup at present.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: The PRO on August 13, 2018, 09:43:13 AM
Looking like this is panning out as expected.
Annanough, P/R and Kilcavan all comfortably into last eight.
Surprised Port are gone. Is there a second team that can challenge the three favourites? Maybe Graigue if they get the junior C over and done with. B Abbey seem to be decent too and Portlaoise third team could be anything.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jd on August 13, 2018, 11:39:02 AM
I'd imagine Annanough will want to get the senior thing out of the way asap. Could you imagine if either of the Sculleys or Horgan or some other players got bad injuries playing for clonaslee........ Just a question, if clonaslee get relegated and Annanough go up will they be allowed to stay as a Gaels team for intermediate like mountmellick ??
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: SCFC on August 13, 2018, 03:11:48 PM
I'd imagine Annanough will want to get the senior thing out of the way asap. Could you imagine if either of the Sculleys or Horgan or some other players got bad injuries playing for clonaslee........ Just a question, if clonaslee get relegated and Annanough go up will they be allowed to stay as a Gaels team for intermediate like mountmellick ??
I couldn't see how that could happen as both clubs would be intermediate in their own right.
They could apply to affiliate a senior team though.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Joeythelips on August 13, 2018, 05:09:20 PM
When are the quarter finals on and when is the draw for it?
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: BallyroanAbbey on August 13, 2018, 08:15:55 PM
Jesus lads Spink have had some fall in a short period of time, i know that hurling is the main sport over there and that they are getting lads from 2 hurling clubs but at this stage they would be better off letting the lads that actually want to kick ball go to cretty or wherever. Because its unfair at this stage. I remember talking to a lad a few years ago when they brought the ballinakill lads in and said it would kill off spink and split the community, seemed like madness when they were going well at inter but by jaysus that man was spot on
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Don Draper on August 14, 2018, 09:56:21 AM
Jesus lads Spink have had some fall in a short period of time, i know that hurling is the main sport over there and that they are getting lads from 2 hurling clubs but at this stage they would be better off letting the lads that actually want to kick ball go to cretty or wherever. Because its unfair at this stage. I remember talking to a lad a few years ago when they brought the ballinakill lads in and said it would kill off spink and split the community, seemed like madness when they were going well at inter but by jaysus that man was spot on
Some sense there, but at the same time, Spink are making massive strides at underage and hopefully will regenerate again in a few years if they can keep that coming. Amalgamations are grand if lads buy into them, but at the end of the day, a hurler will always put hurling first, and vice versa.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 14, 2018, 10:08:17 AM
Spinks improvement at juvenile might be more to do with a dubious transfer policy.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Don Draper on August 14, 2018, 10:11:43 AM
Spinks improvement at juvenile might be more to do with a dubious transfer policy.
Sensible edit.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: BallyroanAbbey on August 14, 2018, 10:12:24 AM
Jesus lads Spink have had some fall in a short period of time, i know that hurling is the main sport over there and that they are getting lads from 2 hurling clubs but at this stage they would be better off letting the lads that actually want to kick ball go to cretty or wherever. Because its unfair at this stage. I remember talking to a lad a few years ago when they brought the ballinakill lads in and said it would kill off spink and split the community, seemed like madness when they were going well at inter but by jaysus that man was spot on
Some sense there, but at the same time, Spink are making massive strides at underage and hopefully will regenerate again in a few years if they can keep that coming. Amalgamations are grand if lads buy into them, but at the end of the day, a hurler will always put hurling first, and vice versa.

Im aware if that but at the same time how many of these lads are going to put football first, realistically the only ones to benefit from this arrangement are ballinakill who have succeded in expanding their area of players into spink

The only way i could see it working long term is by spink and ballinakill having a full scale amalgamation, they might loae a few current players who hurl with ballypickas but would likely gain more from ballinakill to counter that and they would have a solid foundation of players to choose from instead if the guessing game they have at the moment. Having said that the chances of ballinakill giving up.anything in name or colour are slim id imagine. Also thought that this should of happened with us and abbeyleix when they decided to go together. Either go the full way with it or dont do it, half measures dont cut it.

As for my clubmate here i think there is enough questionable transfers and players outside our catchment area to be making accusations.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: clonadmad on August 14, 2018, 10:14:10 AM
Jesus lads Spink have had some fall in a short period of time, i know that hurling is the main sport over there and that they are getting lads from 2 hurling clubs but at this stage they would be better off letting the lads that actually want to kick ball go to cretty or wherever. Because its unfair at this stage. I remember talking to a lad a few years ago when they brought the ballinakill lads in and said it would kill off spink and split the community, seemed like madness when they were going well at inter but by jaysus that man was spot on
Some sense there, but at the same time, Spink are making massive strides at underage and hopefully will regenerate again in a few years if they can keep that coming. Amalgamations are grand if lads buy into them, but at the end of the day, a hurler will always put hurling first, and vice versa.

Where are the massive strides in Juvenile when they are in with Park at some grades and word is that they  have made approach’s to a few of their neighbors for a full Juvenile amalgamation from next year.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Don Draper on August 14, 2018, 10:15:49 AM
Jesus lads Spink have had some fall in a short period of time, i know that hurling is the main sport over there and that they are getting lads from 2 hurling clubs but at this stage they would be better off letting the lads that actually want to kick ball go to cretty or wherever. Because its unfair at this stage. I remember talking to a lad a few years ago when they brought the ballinakill lads in and said it would kill off spink and split the community, seemed like madness when they were going well at inter but by jaysus that man was spot on
Some sense there, but at the same time, Spink are making massive strides at underage and hopefully will regenerate again in a few years if they can keep that coming. Amalgamations are grand if lads buy into them, but at the end of the day, a hurler will always put hurling first, and vice versa.

Where are the massive strides in Juvenile when they are in with Park at some grades and word is that they  have made approach’s to a few of their neighbors for a full Juvenile amalgamation from next year.
How many grades are they with Park for? I'm around long enough to know Spink had f**k all on their own for years ,the fact that they're doing anything at underage level is a massive stride.

Who are they are U17 with?

I agree with Ballyroan though, full amalgamations are the way forward for a number of these clubs who are on their knees.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 14, 2018, 10:30:47 AM
Not making accusations, simply stating fact! Spink want it all one way unopposed transfers to them but then go mental the other way.   Over the last 5 years we are not opposing transfers out simply because that’s the right thing to do.   Spink only want to play ball one way. 
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Don Draper on August 14, 2018, 10:33:51 AM
Not making accusations, simply stating fact! Spink want it all one way unopposed transfers to them but then go mental the other way.   Over the last 5 years we are not opposing transfers out simply because that’s the right thing to do.   Spink only want to play ball one way.
TBF if most clubs had your pick they wouldn't worry about losing the odd one either.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 14, 2018, 10:42:07 AM
Not making accusations, simply stating fact! Spink want it all one way unopposed transfers to them but then go mental the other way.   Over the last 5 years we are not opposing transfers out simply because that’s the right thing to do.   Spink only want to play ball one way.
TBF if most clubs had your pick they wouldn't worry about losing the odd one either.

That’s a fair point, last week though someone on another thread was looking to regrade us to intermediate.   The problem with amalgamations and this is genuine is that most clubs are looking for a short term fix.  BallyroanAbbey took from 2007 till this years junior team to come through. 

Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 14, 2018, 12:19:12 PM
Also thought that this should of happened with us and abbeyleix when they decided to go together. Either go the full way with it or dont do it, half measures dont cut it.


Kind of a funny arrangement with Abbeyleix? Ye changed yer name, what did they do?
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Don Draper on August 14, 2018, 12:24:00 PM
Also thought that this should of happened with us and abbeyleix when they decided to go together. Either go the full way with it or dont do it, half measures dont cut it.


Kind of a funny arrangement with Abbeyleix? Ye changed yer name, what did they do?
Abbeyleix were a dual club.
Ballyroan were a football club.
Abbeyleix disbanded their football club and threw their lot in with Ballyroan. In theory.
Ballyroan didn't do likewise.
No reason for Abbeyleix to change anything in their club.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: clonadmad on August 14, 2018, 01:12:04 PM
Jesus lads Spink have had some fall in a short period of time, i know that hurling is the main sport over there and that they are getting lads from 2 hurling clubs but at this stage they would be better off letting the lads that actually want to kick ball go to cretty or wherever. Because its unfair at this stage. I remember talking to a lad a few years ago when they brought the ballinakill lads in and said it would kill off spink and split the community, seemed like madness when they were going well at inter but by jaysus that man was spot on
Some sense there, but at the same time, Spink are making massive strides at underage and hopefully will regenerate again in a few years if they can keep that coming. Amalgamations are grand if lads buy into them, but at the end of the day, a hurler will always put hurling first, and vice versa.

Where are the massive strides in Juvenile when they are in with Park at some grades and word is that they  have made approach’s to a few of their neighbors for a full Juvenile amalgamation from next year.
How many grades are they with Park for? I'm around long enough to know Spink had f**k all on their own for years ,the fact that they're doing anything at underage level is a massive stride.

Who are they are U17 with?

I agree with Ballyroan though, full amalgamations are the way forward for a number of these clubs who are on their knees.

Well if they are making the “massive” strides that you suggest they are making

Why then are going around to 2/3 clubs looking to amalgamate on a long term basis,all their Juvenile teams from next year
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jd on August 16, 2018, 12:27:30 AM
Spink actually putting huge efforts into underage teams and a small club like them don't need 15 players coming through every year. If they can get 6 or 7 young fellas then that's plenty to ensure the survival of their club. Winning a junior or even an intermediate would be huge for them and with their systems now in place it's not beyond them. I remember kicking senior against them in the 90s and their numbers were way worse than they have now
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Don Draper on August 16, 2018, 09:37:25 AM
The rumours of Spinks demise are greatly exaggerated.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: SCFC on August 23, 2018, 02:40:28 PM
I'm predicting O'Dempseys, Ballyroan Abbey, Graigue and Camross to win the round 3 games.
Although Camross could have their minds elsewhere!!
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Laoiseabu on August 29, 2018, 12:18:36 PM
How is it that Castletown were in the junior B football final last night but Castletown /slieve bloom are in the junior C final ?
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Don Draper on August 29, 2018, 12:35:36 PM
How is it that Castletown were in the junior B football final last night but Castletown /slieve bloom are in the junior C final ?
An error I'd imagine, that should read Slieve Bloom on their own in the C.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jd on August 29, 2018, 04:12:52 PM
 :- Jesus that would be castletown getting the max out of their footballers alright. Jnr C with sliabh Bloom jnr A in their own right and intermediate with mountmellick........ How would they fit any hurling in !! Player burnout has to be an issue !😀
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: The PRO on August 30, 2018, 08:13:17 AM
Annanough and Park should win comfortably in the quarters tonight. Kilcavan could get turned over by Ballyroan Abbey but hard to call. Portlaoise third team might not be as strong as O'Dempseys second team.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Joeythelips on August 30, 2018, 05:02:42 PM
Annanough and Park should win comfortably in the quarters tonight. Kilcavan could get turned over by Ballyroan Abbey but hard to call. Portlaoise third team might not be as strong as O'Dempseys second team.

Have not seen any football this year but does sound like Kilcavan v Ballyroan will be closest one to call, Ballyroan have posted some impressive scorelines in their 3 games to date, so obviously are decent and should be a good game. Hard to see Annanough or Park been overly troubled alright.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on August 31, 2018, 01:40:44 AM
Laois Shopping Centre JFC Quarter Finals Results

O’Dempsey’s            1-8
Portlaoise                 1-5

Annanough              2-9
Camross                  0-13

Park-Ratheniska     3-6
Killeshin                  0-5
 
Kilcavan                  2-15
Ballyroan-Abbey     0-9
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 31, 2018, 08:21:34 AM
A fitter more motivated Kilcavan beat us, we were disappointing. 
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jd on August 31, 2018, 09:10:42 AM
Was at Annanough  and Camross.  Annanough  looked really impressive leading by 7 or 8 at half time.  Match over!!
Second half dominated  by Camross  and fitness seemed  to be a bit of an issue for Annanough.  They're  an aging team maybe. What  would be a worry for annanough is that they were out pointed by something like 7 to 2 in second period. Having  said that I still think they have to be favourites  as all the other teams beat other clubs second teams while Camross fielded  a powerful athletic first team.  Kilchoan could be timing  it to perfection  though.  They know how to win juniors. Fresh is some man to be still going so well!
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Joeythelips on September 04, 2018, 11:36:44 AM
Semi final draw:

Kilcavan v O'Dempsey's

Annanough v Park-Ratheniska



Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: SCFC on September 14, 2018, 02:19:12 PM
I think we'll have a Kilcavan v Annanough final. Surely Annanough can lift it a bit from scraping by Camross?
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Helix on September 16, 2018, 12:35:57 PM
I think we'll have a Kilcavan v Annanough final. Surely Annanough can lift it a bit from scraping by Camross?

Good win for O’Dempseys the other night vs kilcavan. The club will be on a high after the seniors win last night.

Annanough scraped by Friday night in Crettyard. Poor game lots of mistakes. Park left that behind them too many chances missed up front. Annanough tired midway in 2nd half but grinded it out near the end. Would not be surprised to see O’Dempseys winning the final.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: The PRO on September 26, 2018, 05:58:41 PM
Annanough to win this by 4 or 5.

They are a first team and first teams should have the edge with three or four top class lads that a second team won't have.

It would be their first championship in 40 years!
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Laoiseabu on September 26, 2018, 06:49:45 PM
O’Dempseys have a good chance of winning the junior I think
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jd on September 27, 2018, 08:50:50 AM
I'll chance ODs for this. Too very similar teams with lads who are just starting out ana a lot of experienced heads too. Annanough have suffered a fade out in the second half of the matches that I have seen them whereas ODs seem to power up in second half. The boys in ODs will I presume be training at a serious level with their senior team and because of that I give them the nod
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: SCFC on September 28, 2018, 12:16:58 PM
I fancied Kilcavan in the semi so I might as well oppose O'Dempseys again!
I think Annanough have a few stronger players. Donal Miller is playing well I hear and who'd begrudge him a well deserved county medal with his club? Scully, Rory Stapleton and young Horgan and McCaul are a bit better than anyone on the O'Dempseys team.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: SCFC on October 01, 2018, 06:07:31 AM
At least I got one prediction right!
Not the greatest game but Annanough won't mind. Job done.
The famine is over! Congrats to great club people like Donal Miller, Martin Stapleton and Willie Coleman.
Great chance of a run in Leinster too.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Heshs Umpire on October 02, 2018, 02:36:15 PM
O'Dempseys junior A team will be good too. Could've been in the Final last year with any luck. Won't lose many to senior team.
I was nearly right! Fair play to Annanough. It's important not to get stuck in a lower grade for too long and they did the job at the first time of asking.
Didn't see any of their games this year except a few minutes on Saturday. Rory Stapleton must have come out with 4 or 5 balls in that few minutes alone. Great bit of stuff.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jd on October 02, 2018, 04:46:48 PM
Now hesh   don't be praising a kinda half  cousin  (I think) of yours trying to get him junior  player of the year. !!!! In fairness he was my m.o.m.  His reading  of the danger is excellent  and he looks  really  fit still too
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 29, 2018, 11:46:20 AM
Also thought that this should of happened with us and abbeyleix when they decided to go together. Either go the full way with it or dont do it, half measures dont cut it.


Kind of a funny arrangement with Abbeyleix? Ye changed yer name, what did they do?

Jumped into bed with Ballinakill  8)
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Moregroundhurling on November 29, 2018, 11:21:08 PM
Also thought that this should of happened with us and abbeyleix when they decided to go together. Either go the full way with it or dont do it, half measures dont cut it.


Kind of a funny arrangement with Abbeyleix? Ye changed yer name, what did they do?

Jumped into bed with Ballinakill  8)

BallyroanAbbeyAbu
Relax, ye have lads from rathineska, raheen, shanahoe, ballacolla, mountrath, durrow, abbeyleix, ballypickas and ballyroan to chose from. A few auld lads kicking junior C won't upset ye too much. IF it goes ahead of course, IF
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 30, 2018, 08:07:40 AM
Hopefully you can add Ballinakill and surrounding areas before long.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: The PRO on November 30, 2018, 08:33:57 AM
Hopefully you can add Ballinakill and surrounding areas before long.
South Laois Gaels has a nice ring to it.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: SCFC on November 30, 2018, 08:43:21 AM
Hopefully you can add Ballinakill and surrounding areas before long.
South Laois Gaels has a nice ring to it.
Does Danny Donohue still kick?😉
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: BallyroanAbbey on November 30, 2018, 09:02:56 AM
Hopefully you can add Ballinakill and surrounding areas before long.

Basically why Ballyroan dont win despite our underage success, lads too busy focusing on poaching lads from other clubs than developing with what we have
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 30, 2018, 09:58:43 AM
Danny is back at the Harps, we were happy to help him realize a childhood dream "winning a senior county title".  Which made Danny and all his family very proud but then they are all proud Ballyroan people.

BallyroanAbbey are you from Ballyroan ? If you are a member you are more than welcome to pop up the the AGM and state your case,  I am not entirely sure what you mean in regard to poaching players.  I would say that we facilitate football for players from clubs that do not have football teams at juvenile level as we have done since I was a child.  But then if you were from Ballyroan and a Ballyroan Abbey member you would know this and that one of our objectives is to promote football.

Laois U15 & Laois U17 football champions 2018  I think we are doing something right.

Is Pickas your first love ?
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Don Draper on November 30, 2018, 10:01:14 AM
Fair play BallyroanAbu, you landed a fair blow there, he's seething.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 30, 2018, 10:22:11 AM
Your at it again Don, just seems BA has a very obvious love for our "National Sport" that would be unusual in Ballyroan :).
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: BallyroanAbbey on November 30, 2018, 10:49:49 AM
No Abu it isnt i just enjoy the hurling as a game more and in fairness is very competitive inside of laois unlike the football, would have more family connections in trumera than any other hurling club, do pickas not get half their players from ballyroan or at least did before the abbeyleix arragement? i just think that you stick with your own and do your best with your own, now in your defense considering you have stated that if ballinakill and abbeyleix do join ballyroan are going into balljnakill to take players off spink and have complained why colt have a football team instead of letting them play with Ballyroan that concept might go beyond your understanding
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Laois fan on November 30, 2018, 10:58:12 AM
As a matter of interest how many clubs do ballyroan actually have with them
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 30, 2018, 11:20:09 AM
😱😱😱
It’s not us enlarging our area it’s just a lucky coincidence,  we all know parish rule is not long for this world with the continued ignoring of it.  Ballinakill Abbeyleix just happens to possibly work in our favor contrary to what most think.  Small Clubs will be decimated around it and the bigger ones will thrive.  Colt, Ballypickas, Clonad, Trumera, Spink & Shanahoe will all be lucky to survive Ballinakill Abbeyleix amalgamations reach. 
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Moregroundhurling on November 30, 2018, 12:02:19 PM
Danny is back at the Harps, we were happy to help him realize a childhood dream "winning a senior county title".  Which made Danny and all his family very proud but then they are all proud Ballyroan people.

BallyroanAbbey are you from Ballyroan ? If you are a member you are more than welcome to pop up the the AGM and state your case,  I am not entirely sure what you mean in regard to poaching players.  I would say that we facilitate football for players from clubs that do not have football teams at juvenile level as we have done since I was a child.  But then if you were from Ballyroan and a Ballyroan Abbey member you would know this and that one of our objectives is to promote football.

Laois U15 & Laois U17 football champions 2018  I think we are doing something right.

Did I not see a chap from Durrow kick in goals for Laois and he a ballyroan abbey man. In recent history I saw two of our lads charlie and podge tog out in a minor b final again the rock and abolutely thumped them. It was like the whole county minor hurling team that year togged for ballyroan again " the rock".
I am also delighted with your recent success and I attended all three finals. But it is only apt as ye do have the second biggest pick in the county

We got off the point a little, BallyroanAbú there's no need to get your knickers in a twist over a junior C football team that is yet to be created. And my god your knickers certainly are in a twist. Hopefully all this nonsense will be over soon and we can get back to normality.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 30, 2018, 12:12:53 PM
I don’t see any big issue to Ballinakill and Abbeyleix amalgamating as long as it doesn’t impact Ballyroan.  Abbeyleix have assured us it won’t and wil do so in writing, no major issue for us.


Always an agenda, but of course you should be looking forward to Ballinakill and Abbeyleix amalgating.  It’s fairly obvious that Ballinakill are getting a good deal, from Senior nobodies to a powerhouse in Laois hurling👏👏.  I just thought Abbeyleix were in a better bargaining position.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Laoiseabu on November 30, 2018, 12:19:45 PM
I don’t see any big issue to Ballinakill and Abbeyleix amalgamating as long as it doesn’t impact Ballyroan.  Abbeyleix have assured us it won’t and wil do so in writing, no major issue for us.
Any chance of Ballyroan poaching a few Ballinakill footballers ?
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 30, 2018, 12:30:17 PM
Won’t have to they will register with us before they have a chance to go elsewhere.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Don Draper on November 30, 2018, 12:48:57 PM
I don’t see any big issue to Ballinakill and Abbeyleix amalgamating as long as it doesn’t impact Ballyroan.  Abbeyleix have assured us it won’t and wil do so in writing, no major issue for us.


Always an agenda, but of course you should be looking forward to Ballinakill and Abbeyleix amalgating.  It’s fairly obvious that Ballinakill are getting a good deal, from Senior nobodies to a powerhouse in Laois hurling👏👏.  I just thought Abbeyleix were in a better bargaining position.
Senior nobodies?
Semi Finalists in 2018
Beaten by Champions in 2017
Semi Finalists in 2016
Semi Finalists in 2015

I'd be careful who I'm calling a senior nobody there.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 30, 2018, 01:09:41 PM
Why amalgamate if they are so powerful ?
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Don Draper on November 30, 2018, 04:08:56 PM
Why amalgamate if they are so powerful ?
You called them a senior nobody.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 30, 2018, 04:19:52 PM
There is only 8 teams at Senior in Laois Hurling 4 of which seem strong, are Ballinakill in that 4 ? Not entirely sure have they ever won a Senior Championship ?
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Don Draper on November 30, 2018, 04:36:33 PM
There is only 8 teams at Senior in Laois Hurling 4 of which seem strong, are Ballinakill in that 4 ? Not entirely sure have they ever won a Senior Championship ?
A senior championship win counts for f**k all in this conversation, they hold a football championship, that wouldn't preclude them from being nobodies in the football championship.

I proved they are not senior nobodies.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Keyser Söze on December 01, 2018, 04:19:25 AM
I wouldn’t be so sure BA that it doesn’t affect Ballyroan Abbey.

Abbeyleix players will become members of a football only club- they will have to play football with Abbeyleix. They can then hurl with AbbeyKil. .
The only way they could kick with Ballyroan is if Ballyroan apply to play as a Gaels team. But wasn’t the name change to Ballyroan Abbey specifically to avoid this?

Same applies to Spink. Ballinakill players will have to kick with Ballinakill.Spink can’t enter a Gaels team (they are not senior) so how will Ballinakill players play there? Knock on effect for Crettyard too.

It’s not that long ago that Ballyroan players helped Pickas survive on an annual basis. I remember Tierney & McMahon helping them win a Junior C one year around 2006/7!
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Keyser Söze on December 01, 2018, 04:22:22 AM
Also thought that this should of happened with us and abbeyleix when they decided to go together. Either go the full way with it or dont do it, half measures dont cut it.


Kind of a funny arrangement with Abbeyleix? Ye changed yer name, what did they do?
Abbeyleix were a dual club.
Ballyroan were a football club.
Abbeyleix disbanded their football club and threw their lot in with Ballyroan. In theory.
Ballyroan didn't do likewise.
No reason for Abbeyleix to change anything in their club.

Blowing like the wind these days! Big knock on effect on the way!
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: SCFC on December 01, 2018, 10:53:36 AM
I wouldn’t be so sure BA that it doesn’t affect Ballyroan Abbey.

Abbeyleix players will become members of a football only club- they will have to play football with Abbeyleix. They can then hurl with AbbeyKil. .
The only way they could kick with Ballyroan is if Ballyroan apply to play as a Gaels team. But wasn’t the name change to Ballyroan Abbey specifically to avoid this?

Same applies to Spink. Ballinakill players will have to kick with Ballinakill.Spink can’t enter a Gaels team (they are not senior) so how will Ballinakill players play there? Knock on effect for Crettyard too.

It’s not that long ago that Ballyroan players helped Pickas survive on an annual basis. I remember Tierney & McMahon helping them win a Junior C one year around 2006/7!
Spot on there. Huge implications if this thing goes through. You simply can't kick football with Ballyroan Abbey and hurl with Abbeyleix Ballinakill as it's proposed to be set up with junior C football teams retaining Abbeyleix and Ballinakill's identities.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Target Man on December 01, 2018, 11:03:39 AM
I wouldn’t be so sure BA that it doesn’t affect Ballyroan Abbey.

Abbeyleix players will become members of a football only club- they will have to play football with Abbeyleix. They can then hurl with AbbeyKil. .
The only way they could kick with Ballyroan is if Ballyroan apply to play as a Gaels team. But wasn’t the name change to Ballyroan Abbey specifically to avoid this?

Same applies to Spink. Ballinakill players will have to kick with Ballinakill.Spink can’t enter a Gaels team (they are not senior) so how will Ballinakill players play there? Knock on effect for Crettyard too.

It’s not that long ago that Ballyroan players helped Pickas survive on an annual basis. I remember Tierney & McMahon helping them win a Junior C one year around 2006/7!
Spot on there. Huge implications if this thing goes through. You simply can't kick football with Ballyroan Abbey and hurl with Abbeyleix Ballinakill as it's proposed to be set up with junior C football teams retaining Abbeyleix and Ballinakill's identities.

Think it's supposed to work as follows:
Hurlers register to New Club (hurling only club)
Footballers register to BA or Spink ( football only clubs)
Ballinakill and Abbeyleix enter junior c football teams, not using or registering any players who play football with BA or Spink🤔. Ballinakill and Abbeyleix would be football only clubs in theory next year.

Not sure of legalities of all that and seems very unwieldy
but think that's what is supposed to happen
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: BallyroanAbu on December 01, 2018, 11:35:00 AM
So lets do it this way

Every child in the parish registers with Ballyroan Abbey for Football and Ballinakill Abbeyleix for Hurling.

He is not eligible for Abbeyleix for Junior C Football as Ballyroan Abbey is his club football wise

He will have to seek a transfer to play Junior C with Abbeyleix which will not be sought or given by either club.

Most if not all Abbeyleix players would be ineligible to play Junior C with Abbeyleix as they are all Ballyroan Abbey registered footballers.



Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jd on December 01, 2018, 12:05:05 PM
I'd imagine the two hurling clubs  amalgamate  for hurling which is a totally  new and separate  stand alone club Ballyroan Abbey  still exists  as a stand alone football club as do Spink so Abbeyleix  footballers  go to BA and Ballinakill  lads to Spink as is currently  happening.  Nothing has changed  except the formation of a new hurling  club and the disbandment of two current  ones.  Why would either hurling club start junior C football when they're not playing football now
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: BallyroanAbu on December 01, 2018, 12:25:22 PM
To keep their Name/History  and to store current Club Debt/Property/Money etc.  I think Spink are in bigger danger than ourselves as they are pretty much reliant on Ballinakill hurlers.  As I said before this will benefit the stronger clubs in either code as they will pick off the best players from the smaller clubs be it at registration or transfers.  With this on offer and if you are of a decent standard who would want to play with weaker clubs.  Don't say history or pride what's coming through does not care about that.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Keyser Söze on December 01, 2018, 12:32:50 PM
So who is going to line out and play Junior C Football with Abbeyleix or Ballinakill if none of them are Abbeyleix/Ballinakill players?

It will kill Spink and Ballypickas for a start.
It will also become messy when players are told at 16/17 that they are not good enough for Ballyroan so please transfer back to Abbeyleix there to make up numbers on a Junior C Football team to keep the club alive.
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jd on December 01, 2018, 12:39:17 PM
Absolutely  but then how will this affect Spink I'm sure the Ballinakill  lads will have the option of registering with Spink too which I'd  imagine will happen.  I know that this discussion  has already happened  and Ballinakill  have not suggested starting a football  team.  As an aside do ye think that some young hurlers from Abbeyleix will register for them and decide to kick ball with them too rather than BA or do they have to register for BA from the start?? 
Title: Re: Laois Junior Football Championship 2018
Post by: High Fielder on December 01, 2018, 01:57:53 PM
Is this a temporary arrangement or a new club? If it's a temporary arrangement I think the CB would be wise to reject it. If it's permanent, then they should go in hook line and sinker. Hurling, football, underage - the whole lot. If this is the wish of the two clubs members then we need to respect that. But I see no  value in lads being scattered to football clubs nearby.