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Title: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: heganboy on July 03, 2018, 12:03:54 AM

Step right up folks, place your bets now! Smarting from last year?
Bit of swagger?

As the teams come back to training with the world cup players out, here's how Get Powers little brother Pat sees the action playing out with the big 6 still a way ahead of the rest...
Man City 8/13
Liverpool 9/2
Man Utd 6/1
Chelsea 11/1
Tottenham 11/1
Arsenal 20/1

Everton next at 100/1
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on July 03, 2018, 07:43:44 AM
Arsenal the e/w value there.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: thewobbler on July 03, 2018, 08:33:50 AM
Arsenal the e/w value there.

No they’re not.

Arsenal don’t have a single player who gets a game at City or Chelsea, possibly even at United or Spurs. The gap is much bigger than their name suggests.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on July 06, 2018, 01:26:52 PM
First Premier League game 5 weeks tonight  :o

Most of the teams will be off on tour by the end of this week.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 06, 2018, 01:30:31 PM
First Premier League game 5 weeks tonight  :o

Most of the teams will be off on tour by the end of this week.
Was the Sky and BT sports live games confirmed yet?
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: trailer on July 06, 2018, 01:37:10 PM
Amazon showing a weekend of games if I heard right.

Man U the team to stop this season.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on July 06, 2018, 01:45:40 PM
First Premier League game 5 weeks tonight  :o

Most of the teams will be off on tour by the end of this week.
Was the Sky and BT sports live games confirmed yet?

Aye this morning that's what put it in my head...

United at home to Leicester on Fri 10th August is 1st game..

Here's the released Sky ones http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/11426783/premier-league-fixtures-live-on-sky-sports-manchester-united-kick-off-2018-19-season
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 06, 2018, 02:36:06 PM
First Premier League game 5 weeks tonight  :o

Most of the teams will be off on tour by the end of this week.
Was the Sky and BT sports live games confirmed yet?

Aye this morning that's what put it in my head...

United at home to Leicester on Fri 10th August is 1st game..

Here's the released Sky ones http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/11426783/premier-league-fixtures-live-on-sky-sports-manchester-united-kick-off-2018-19-season
Hotel and flight prices for match weekends gone through the roof as expected.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 10, 2018, 10:13:56 PM
Mahrez to City - done deal

https://twitter.com/ManCity/status/1016776691388174336
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on July 10, 2018, 10:16:34 PM
Transfer window closes in England in less than a month, expect a flurry of activity after Sunday.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on July 12, 2018, 03:14:56 PM
Conte sacked.  Is he the last casualty of last season or the first of the new season  ???
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 12, 2018, 04:04:36 PM
They took their time to sack him. Must have a good replacement lined up.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on July 12, 2018, 04:14:04 PM
All the talk has been that's its going to be Sarri from Napoli
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on July 16, 2018, 06:42:32 PM
Some good news  :D


Thierry Henry steps down from punditry role with Sky Sports to concentrate on coaching career

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/thierry-henry-steps-down-from-punditry-role-with-sky-sports-to-concentrate-on-coaching-career-37124529.html
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on July 26, 2018, 02:34:55 PM
Great to see  8) the news on him was so scarce I began to wonder would we see him again.

https://youtu.be/PJ8Ac-LeIfw
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 26, 2018, 04:39:32 PM
Arsenal the e/w value there.

No they’re not.

Arsenal don’t have a single player who gets a game at City or Chelsea, possibly even at United or Spurs. The gap is much bigger than their name suggests.

Rubbish!
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 26, 2018, 05:34:35 PM
Arsenal the e/w value there.

No they’re not.

Arsenal don’t have a single player who gets a game at City or Chelsea, possibly even at United or Spurs. The gap is much bigger than their name suggests.

Rubbish!

Aubameyang gets a game anywhere.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on July 26, 2018, 05:51:53 PM
At Chelsea he would start but wouldn't be in front of Aguero, Kane and can't see mourinho starting him ahead of Lukaku
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Kidder81 on July 26, 2018, 07:23:17 PM
This “wouldn’t get a game at United, City” etc is a nonsensical, moronic argument
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on July 26, 2018, 09:03:57 PM
Aye, I think Fabian Delph played in over half of Citys games last season so that renders any argument pointless...
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 06, 2018, 04:09:40 PM
Season predictions

1st Man City
2nd Liverpool
3rd Spurs
4th Chelsea

Relegated Cardiff,Huddersfield and Watford

Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: laoislad on August 06, 2018, 06:17:24 PM
1 Liverpool
2 City
3 Chelsea
4 Spurs

Relegated
Brighton
Cardiff
Fulham
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 06, 2018, 06:21:46 PM
1 Liverpool
2 City
3 Chelsea
4 Spurs

Relegated
Brighton
Cardiff
Fulham

Good man..,proper scud on us!!!  Fulham will stay up as will other promotion team Wolves
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: shark on August 06, 2018, 06:43:51 PM
1 Liverpool
2 City
3 Chelsea
4 Spurs

Relegated
Brighton
Cardiff
Fulham

Good man..,proper scud on us!!!  Fulham will stay up as will other promotion team Wolves

Fulham will be quite comfortable I suspect.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 06, 2018, 06:46:52 PM
1 Liverpool
2 City
3 Chelsea
4 Spurs

Relegated
Brighton
Cardiff
Fulham
Book the victory bus again
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: thewobbler on August 06, 2018, 06:48:30 PM
Given a general lack of transfer activity, it should be relatively straightforward - compared to most years - to nail colours to a mast. Only thing is it’ll take everyone a month or so to get a settled XI after the World Cup.

City will win it. They can pass you off the pitch or can destroy you on the counter, and like last season, not many clubs will have answers to both. Mahrez is a gem of a player too and a serious upgrade on Sterling. Probably the best hope the rest have is that De Bruyne misses a few months of the season through injury, a few poor results are picked up in a row. Also, here’s hoping the bottom 10 clubs go all out route one against them. If they have a weakness, it’s physicality.

United could plod into second again for simple reason that they’re bloody difficult to breakdown and have the individual talents to always nick a goal. It’s rudimentary football and generally awful to watch, and Mourninho’s biggest dilemma is that if City pull out early with 6-7 straight wins, it’s hard to see them keeping anywhere near that pace. So he would be pressured from within and out to be more attacking. At which point, José dies inside and walks with a big payout around March.

That scenario seems all too likely to me, so I’d expect Spurs and Liverpool to move above them.

Spurs are struggling to find improvements to their first XI, and the last couple of seasons have proven that they need a bit more before they can really claim to be challengers. If they get a mostly injury-free season out of Dembele, Eriksen and Kane, once again they’ll swat off the bottom 14 clubs with little issue, and will build up a bank of points to guarantee top 4. But it’ll be at least 10 short of City, unless Harry goes up another gear. Which he won’t do in August, and as a result will always be chasing.

Liverpool are harder to call. Allison should immediately be worth 9 points more than last season, so poor was who he is replacing. But not many keepers adjust quickly to the levels of crosses they have to face in the EPL, so it might take a few months before he settles in. Further up the field, I genuinely doubt Fabinho is any improvement on Henderson or Milner, who know the league inaidenout and know their roles inside out. Keita should have more spark about him, but Liverpool don’t really need a sparky central midfielder, more of a game controller. Ultimately, Liverpool’s potential to challenge boils down to whether Salah is genuinely a worldie, or (just) a top class player who had an exceptional season. If it’s the latter, Liverpool will be top 4. If the former they might even give City a challenge for a while.

Chelsea’s almost relentless knack of sacking a manager then winning a major trophy has always been dependent on Abramovich’s spending power and while it’s difficult to see them winning a league no matter what, if Hazard has a wantaway season, they just won’t have the cutting edge to trouble the top 4.

Arsenal haven’t just replaced a manager, they’ve replaced a footballing culture, and I’d expect they’ll take a few seasons to come close to top 4 again. Wenger has left behind a truly mediocre squad and we are about to find out just how poor. I honestly expect them to pick up less than 55 points this season, and Aubyemang will be the new Defoe, a fine goalscorer, but like playing with 10 men, especially away from home.

Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: NAG1 on August 07, 2018, 11:55:13 AM
Given a general lack of transfer activity, it should be relatively straightforward - compared to most years - to nail colours to a mast. Only thing is it’ll take everyone a month or so to get a settled XI after the World Cup.

City will win it. They can pass you off the pitch or can destroy you on the counter, and like last season, not many clubs will have answers to both. Mahrez is a gem of a player too and a serious upgrade on Sterling. Probably the best hope the rest have is that De Bruyne misses a few months of the season through injury, a few poor results are picked up in a row. Also, here’s hoping the bottom 10 clubs go all out route one against them. If they have a weakness, it’s physicality.

United could plod into second again for simple reason that they’re bloody difficult to breakdown and have the individual talents to always nick a goal. It’s rudimentary football and generally awful to watch, and Mourninho’s biggest dilemma is that if City pull out early with 6-7 straight wins, it’s hard to see them keeping anywhere near that pace. So he would be pressured from within and out to be more attacking. At which point, José dies inside and walks with a big payout around March.

That scenario seems all too likely to me, so I’d expect Spurs and Liverpool to move above them.

Spurs are struggling to find improvements to their first XI, and the last couple of seasons have proven that they need a bit more before they can really claim to be challengers. If they get a mostly injury-free season out of Dembele, Eriksen and Kane, once again they’ll swat off the bottom 14 clubs with little issue, and will build up a bank of points to guarantee top 4. But it’ll be at least 10 short of City, unless Harry goes up another gear. Which he won’t do in August, and as a result will always be chasing.

Liverpool are harder to call. Allison should immediately be worth 9 points more than last season, so poor was who he is replacing. But not many keepers adjust quickly to the levels of crosses they have to face in the EPL, so it might take a few months before he settles in. Further up the field, I genuinely doubt Fabinho is any improvement on Henderson or Milner, who know the league inaidenout and know their roles inside out. Keita should have more spark about him, but Liverpool don’t really need a sparky central midfielder, more of a game controller. Ultimately, Liverpool’s potential to challenge boils down to whether Salah is genuinely a worldie, or (just) a top class player who had an exceptional season. If it’s the latter, Liverpool will be top 4. If the former they might even give City a challenge for a while.

Chelsea’s almost relentless knack of sacking a manager then winning a major trophy has always been dependent on Abramovich’s spending power and while it’s difficult to see them winning a league no matter what, if Hazard has a wantaway season, they just won’t have the cutting edge to trouble the top 4.

Arsenal haven’t just replaced a manager, they’ve replaced a footballing culture, and I’d expect they’ll take a few seasons to come close to top 4 again. Wenger has left behind a truly mediocre squad and we are about to find out just how poor. I honestly expect them to pick up less than 55 points this season, and Aubyemang will be the new Defoe, a fine goalscorer, but like playing with 10 men, especially away from home.

1) Agreed
2) Agreed although I expect them to be better to watch this season
3) Need a bit more and havent added anything, expect the WC to hit them harder than most
4) If he can back it  up then yeah they will be close if not similar story to last year
5) Looked very ordinary and dont see a quick fix for them
6) Agreed



Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: laoislad on August 07, 2018, 05:02:01 PM
No surprise here.. Referees favouring Man United..They didn't need a study to determine that sure every one knew it anyways.
https://www.balls.ie/football/liverpool-unluckiest-man-united-394361
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on August 08, 2018, 12:43:39 AM
No surprise here.. Referees favouring Man United..They didn't need a study to determine that sure every one knew it anyways.
https://www.balls.ie/football/liverpool-unluckiest-man-united-394361

Happy days so we only have to make up a 10 point deficit as opposed to the 20 odd pints we finish behind city!😊

Predictions
1. City
2. Liverpool
3. Utd
4. Spurs

7. Wolves

18. Southampton
19. Cardiff
20. Watford
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 08, 2018, 01:00:48 AM
Right or wrong for Sky to bring back Jamie Carragher?
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on August 08, 2018, 07:52:54 AM
1 City
2 Liverpool
3 Chelsea
4 Arsenal

relegation
Cardiff
Brighton
Huddersfield
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 08, 2018, 09:42:07 AM
1. Man City
2. Arsenal
3. Chelsea
4. Liverpool
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2018, 09:49:54 AM
Are people basing these predictions on the form of pre season games? or the past 10 years?

I'm not backing Liverpool this year for the title, the odds are too skinny and no money to be made..

Probably win it now but back to back winners of the PL is hard enough to do regardless of the squad City have, it doesnt happen that much.. I feel City will be going all out to win the CL this year and may not be at full pelt in the when it comes to PL games. Though in fairness they could win most games with their second string players!

Mo will not get an easy ride this year in the PL, he'll be targeted by the defenders, expect to see a few heavy tackles going in, Ramos style
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: blewuporstuffed on August 08, 2018, 10:03:08 AM
Are people basing these predictions on the form of pre season games? or the past 10 years?

I'm not backing Liverpool this year for the title, the odds are too skinny and no money to be made..

Probably win it now but back to back winners of the PL is hard enough to do regardless of the squad City have, it doesnt happen that much.. I feel City will be going all out to win the CL this year and may not be at full pelt in the when it comes to PL games. Though in fairness they could win most games with their second string players!

Mo will not get an easy ride this year in the PL, he'll be targeted by the defenders, expect to see a few heavy tackles going in, Ramos style
I agree with you about the salah thing, he will do well to replicate last years form, although i would still expect him to get 20+ goals
I think Mane is primed for a big season and Keita could be a real game changer
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Dire Ear on August 08, 2018, 10:43:31 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45088530
BBC Sport pundits pick champions and top four
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2018, 11:44:35 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45088530
BBC Sport pundits pick champions and top four

When was the last team to win back to back titles? think it was Utd (back in the day) Though City have it in them to do that with the current set up
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 08, 2018, 03:23:58 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45088530
BBC Sport pundits pick champions and top four

When was the last team to win back to back titles? think it was Utd (back in the day) Though City have it in them to do that with the current set up

Chelsea did two in a row back in the day also and this Man City team are better than that Chelsea side. Pep Guardiola is key for them to winning back to back titles and their biggest challenger this season will likely be Liverpool who haven't won the league since 1990 but at least they have a manager that won two league titles recently and back to back titles at that.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on August 08, 2018, 09:53:33 PM
Really dont see why so many are tipping Liverpool this season. Salah was key last year and he will be lucky to get half the goals this year.

How did Courtois only go for £35 million? Top 5 keepers out there yet going for only half the price of others.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on August 08, 2018, 10:02:59 PM
Really dont see why so many are tipping Liverpool this season. Salah was key last year and he will be lucky to get half the goals this year.

How did Courtois only go for £35 million? Top 5 keepers out there yet going for only half the price of others.

One year on contract.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on August 09, 2018, 12:05:50 AM
Salah was key last year and he will be lucky to get half the goals this year.


Why do you say he'll be lucky?
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 09, 2018, 08:06:43 AM
Liverpool
City
Spurs
Utd
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on August 09, 2018, 08:07:16 AM
Salah was key last year and he will be lucky to get half the goals this year.


Why do you say he'll be lucky?

I just think everything clicked for him last year but think it was a one-off.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: TabClear on August 09, 2018, 09:08:14 AM
Salah was key last year and he will be lucky to get half the goals this year.


Why do you say he'll be lucky?

I just think everything clicked for him last year but think it was a one-off.

In some respects I think you are right. There were signs towards the end of last year that some of the "lower table" teams had learned how to deal with him better by going really tight on him (Pieters for Stoke stands out). However, hopefully this frees up Mane and Keita in particular to contribute a bit more. Firmino, like Salah probably cannot really hope to improve too much on what was a stellar season.

For what its worth I think City will win the league relatively comfortably and I think the United woes are being over stated. Sanchez, Lukaku, Mata, Pogba,Rashford, Martial etc is a pretty potent attacking force and regardless of whether they get a CB in, any Jose team will be solid defensively. They will not lose too many games but it will not be pretty.

Liverpool should be competitive but an injury to VVD would really hurt them moreso than Salah in my view.  As for Spurs, if Kane stays fit and Alberweild stays, expect more of the same from them. Chelsea, again I think are being written off prematurely. Jorgiho and Kovacic is a serious midfield partnership compared to what they had (Bakayaro?) and their forwards are capable of scoring goals. Courtois is a major blow though.

Arsenal I have no idea about.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 09, 2018, 01:07:53 PM
Fantasy league this year?
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on August 09, 2018, 05:32:50 PM
Really dont see why so many are tipping Liverpool this season. Salah was key last year and he will be lucky to get half the goals this year.

How did Courtois only go for £35 million? Top 5 keepers out there yet going for only half the price of others.

One year on contract.

Chelsea got Mateo Kovacic on loan as part of the deal too.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on August 09, 2018, 05:38:44 PM
City
United
Tottenham
Liverpool
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on August 09, 2018, 06:18:03 PM
Did anything remotely interesting happen on deadline day? I've been watching the golf how did Sky cope?
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on August 09, 2018, 06:21:47 PM
Everton probably did the best signing Bernard, Yerry Mina and Andre Gomes.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Syferus on August 09, 2018, 06:43:06 PM
Whatever about today Wolves did by far the best business of any of the EPL teams this summer. They even added a Belgian international in Dendoncker today to cap it off. And the prices they got were pretty much excellent all round too. And bar Rui Patrico (who isn’t old for a keeper anyways) and Joao Mourthio at 31 they’re all young high potential buys. And with so many Portuguese players it should help integrate the additions faster than they could otherwise expect.

Wolves ain’t aiming to be a basement dweller this time.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: dec on August 09, 2018, 07:31:27 PM
Paddy Power on the Most annoying pundits

https://news.paddypower.com/football/2018/08/09/revealed-six-football-pundits-tv/

6) Paul Merson

Annoying for several reasons, but probably the most mild offender on our list. Merson – or ‘Merse’, if you’re a massive spanner – can still rile you up on a weekly basis. His occasional lapse of knowledge and uninformed aside is enough on its own to irk the viewer. Combine those with the forced aura of hilarity that seems to surround him now and you’ve got yourself a recipe for some serious TV-out-the-window antics. Perhaps we’re going easy on him here putting him sixth, but Merse truly is one annoying sod. He’s lucky not to have made the top five.

5) Kevin Kilbane

It’s the hair, the voice, the slight lack of anything resembling footballing substance. Quite the coup for Kilbane, mind, making our list. It’s probably the first thing that the fella’s achieved in his whole career. Congrats, Kev, and thank us later. We’ve given you something to say. Rejoice, tamely: making the top five is a big deal.

4) Chris Kamara

Don’t take it personally, but Kamara is infuriating. Following the infamous “I don’t know, Jeff” moment, he’s become a series of jarring sound bites now. It’s the ‘tache, the faux confusion and the nickname that do it, though the list could go on and on. The squeaky voiced Northerner deserves his place on here with pride.

3) Charlie Nicholas

Okay, we’ll be honest now, it’s the voice. Nicholas is as bearable as football pundits can be but, for Christ’s sake, someone fiddle with the auto-tune. Yelps of high pitched excitement fly from the bloke’s mouth and scorch the air like a helium-filled Catherine Wheel whenever any-thing remotely exciting happens on those mysterious, hidden screens of Soccer Saturday. Mix in a bit of Martin Keown and Nicholas would be a treat to listen to.

2) Chris Sutton

Sutton is confrontational, conflicting and curt on screen when covering Scottish football. His eagerness to pick a fight with fellow pundits or lambaste the next victim in his sights is, at times, painfully awkward and leads to several on-air bust-ups that can leave viewers wincing. He annoys in that he seems so c**k-sure of his own convictions whilst failing repeatedly to hear the flip side to them. Should he calm down a notch and bring his floating ego closer to earth, we may just bump him down our list. Now there’s some incentive, Chrissy.

1) Michael Owen

Just Google some of the absolute clangers that have rung from this chap’s mouth. Most of Owen’s quotes have felt beyond parody but real highlights include, “that shot is impossible. I saw Yaya Toure do it once”, “if there’s a bit of rain about, it makes the surface wet”, and “whichever team scores more goals usually wins.” We listen to these professionals for insight into football, but Owen chats so regularly from a certain location which lacks our nearest star’s beaming rays that he merits making this list. His depth of thought is just that little bit too deep for us simple telly-watchers, we don’t want to get lost in the mysteries of why water is wet.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: laoislad on August 10, 2018, 10:17:55 AM
Fantasy league this year?
Created one here if anyone is interested

https://fantasy.premierleague.com
Code: 4024684-899565
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on August 10, 2018, 11:02:57 AM
I'm in, don't forget to join the prediction league too...
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Dire Ear on August 10, 2018, 12:46:04 PM
Liverpool
Man City
Spurs
M Utd
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: laoislad on August 10, 2018, 04:05:17 PM
Fantasy league this year?
Created one here if anyone is interested

https://fantasy.premierleague.com
Code: 4024684-899565
Only 6 so far. Anyone else?
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2018, 05:54:05 PM
Chelsea mean business this year! Arsenal are at the minute woefully out classed
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 18, 2018, 06:03:54 PM
Chelsea mean business this year! Arsenal are at the minute woefully out classed

Two awful sitters missed by Arsenal. The first the worst because Chelsea made it 2-0 within seconds of that miss.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 18, 2018, 06:12:42 PM
Arsenal level now and could or should be ahead. The defending by both sides isn't top four stuff.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 18, 2018, 06:19:59 PM
Chelsea mean business this year!

Don't see it at all.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 18, 2018, 07:33:09 PM
Chelsea mean business this year!

Don't see it at all.

Two games two wins, as opposed to, two games two bate!
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 25, 2018, 02:27:08 PM
City dropping points! Only one stand out team this year
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 25, 2018, 03:29:27 PM
City dropping points! Only one stand out team this year
Well done to Wolves. Effort rewarded with a point.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on August 25, 2018, 05:26:33 PM
Harry Maguire's price must have gone up.....now he's scoring goals also😂
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: laoislad on August 27, 2018, 10:41:23 PM
Jose completely losing the plot at the after match press conference  ;D
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 27, 2018, 10:45:16 PM
Jose completely losing the plot at the after match press conference  ;D

https://twitter.com/kylemartino/status/1034191578825408512
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Armamike on August 28, 2018, 10:19:56 AM
Jose completely losing the plot at the after match press conference  ;D

He sticks 3 fingers up to the press and asks what does that mean? Somebody pipes up, 3 nil?  Yes, but also  means 3 premier league titles I've won.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on August 28, 2018, 04:19:03 PM
Jose completely losing the plot at the after match press conference  ;D

He sticks 3 fingers up to the press and asks what does that mean? Somebody pipes up, 3 nil?  Yes, but also  means 3 premier league titles I've won.  ;D ;D

Must’ve been waiting for Wenger to retire before using that one
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on August 29, 2018, 11:57:05 PM
Maybe the wrong thread but the league cup which is being played as last 2 nights
Time to scrap or what ?
Pure reserve teams - even fleet wood made 11 changes
Every team is purely concentrated on their respective league which is fair enough
Even the fans stay away every ground almost has 3 empty stands
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on August 30, 2018, 01:41:40 AM
Jose completely losing the plot at the after match press conference  ;D

He sticks 3 fingers up to the press and asks what does that mean? Somebody pipes up, 3 nil?  Yes, but also  means 3 premier league titles I've won.  ;D ;D

Yes but they were for Chelsea not man u. They won't save you from the sack this time.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 30, 2018, 06:49:30 PM
A gobshite https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/08/29/referee-bobby-madley-forced-quit-mocking-disabled-man-snapchat/
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on August 30, 2018, 06:58:51 PM
I reckon everyone in the country would be sacked if their most offensive Snapchat was revealed publicly..
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on September 13, 2018, 04:52:26 PM
Good to have proper football back, international week is such a pain in the hole.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on September 13, 2018, 05:02:12 PM
Good to have proper football back, international week is such a pain in the hole.

Proper football started a couple of weeks ago with NCAA and NFL :)
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 07, 2018, 06:36:36 PM
Tight at the top as the league goes into yet another international break.




Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: laoislad on October 07, 2018, 07:01:37 PM
Arsenal right back in the mix.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on October 27, 2018, 08:54:40 PM
Leicester owners helicopter crashed at the stadium, major fire..
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2018, 09:07:02 PM
That doesn't look good. I just flicked it over to bt sport there as it happened. Those pundits were in a fair bit of shock then had to be evacuated.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: GJL on October 27, 2018, 09:58:34 PM
Seen pictures of the chopper. Nobody is getting out of that alive. 🙁  Just hope there was nobody in the car park.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on October 27, 2018, 11:01:14 PM
It looks like the owner might have been on board. It was his helicopter.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on October 28, 2018, 12:35:27 AM
BBC sayin reports of Puel too...to be confirmed
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: RedHand88 on October 28, 2018, 08:03:12 AM
Purl ok. Apparently he went to hospital with the injured lad. The owner was almost certainly onboard the helicopter.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2018, 09:33:12 AM
A brighton fan died at their game yesterday too. Eventful, not in a good way, day for english football.

On a football note nice to see Chris hughton doing well at Brighton. Doherty looks like one of wolves main men too.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: bennydorano on October 28, 2018, 01:42:26 PM
Was there any deaths in that helicopter crash? it's being reported in a strange way
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 28, 2018, 01:51:38 PM
Was there any deaths in that helicopter crash? it's being reported in a strange way
Was thinking that myself. A full statement to come out later!?
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 28, 2018, 01:53:41 PM
Was there any deaths in that helicopter crash? it's being reported in a strange way
Can't imagine anyone survived it. As a mark of respect the games in the Premier League today should have been postponed.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on October 28, 2018, 05:38:59 PM
I'd say the problem is they can't identify them?

Don't see why the games should be called off, of Leicester were playing thatd be sifferent. Utd women vs Leicester women was called off today.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on October 28, 2018, 05:52:34 PM
5 on board according to reports.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on October 28, 2018, 10:05:13 PM
5 on board according to reports.

All dead. One is the owner. Not a surprise sadly as it didn't seem like anyone was coming out of that.

Rip. Very sad.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on October 28, 2018, 10:11:29 PM
SaD news. Just seen eerie bt sport footage of the chopper taking off on the pitch. Moments later it crashed.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on October 28, 2018, 10:16:10 PM
5 on board according to reports.

All dead. One is the owner. Not a surprise sadly as it didn't seem like anyone was coming out of that.

Rip. Very sad.

The man responsible for one of the greatest ever underdog stories in sport. RIP Vichai and to the other 4 that died in last nights terrible tragedy
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 28, 2018, 10:24:26 PM
By all accounts he was one of those rare sporting owners, loved and admired by fans and the local community. Seems he pumped a lot of money into hospitals etc about the place as well.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on October 29, 2018, 08:42:37 PM
Wembley pitch in some state for tonights match. Not a good advert for a premier league game being shown around the world.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on October 29, 2018, 09:04:28 PM
Yeah poor looking but not really Wembleys fault, Spurs should have been gone back to WHL long since..

As an aside, how small does an NFL pitch look  :)
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on October 29, 2018, 09:14:22 PM
You'd think in this day and age they could do a better job at covering up the markings
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 29, 2018, 09:19:25 PM
Wembley pitch not great tonight but still a lot better than this Stamford bridge pitch that Charlton had to play on in 2003.


Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2018, 10:25:30 PM
The City juggernaut continues to gain momentum
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: GJL on October 29, 2018, 10:47:17 PM
The City juggernaut continues to gain momentum

I don't even think they have found their stride yet this season. They will be hard to stop.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 29, 2018, 11:25:50 PM
The City juggernaut continues to gain momentum

I don't even think they have found their stride yet this season. They will be hard to stop.

Will they concentrate on the CL though? Surely that’s a big focus for them? Liverpool should keep it tight though and do better than last years attempt
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on November 03, 2018, 05:01:38 PM
Good to see Leicester City win today after the week they had.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on November 05, 2018, 05:50:23 PM
Its amazing that in a week where people are losing their shit over guys wearing/not wearing poppys that this story remains almost unreported. Imagine if it was about different clubs  :)

http://www.spiegel.de/international/football-leaks-manchester-city-paris-saint-germain-gianni-infantino-a-1236277.html
http://www.spiegel.de/international/manchester-city-exposed-bending-the-rules-to-the-tune-of-millions-a-1236346.html


Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on November 05, 2018, 06:04:31 PM
when did the poppy on the shirts become a thing? its only a recent thing or am i wrong, don't remember teams wearing them back in the day.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on November 05, 2018, 06:50:15 PM
when did the poppy on the shirts become a thing? its only a recent thing or am i wrong, don't remember teams wearing them back in the day.

It's become a thing only in the last 10/15 years, I remember Utd being one of the last teams teams to bow to the pressure and there was a hoo haa about that at the time.

Edit: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1225325/Poppy-power-Now-Premier-clubs-refusing-Sportsmails-campaign-honour-heroes.html

There ya go it's even more recent than I thought, Liverpool were another of the 'rebels'
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: blewuporstuffed on November 05, 2018, 10:24:48 PM
when did the poppy on the shirts become a thing? its only a recent thing or am i wrong, don't remember teams wearing them back in the day.

It's become a thing only in the last 10/15 years, I remember Utd being one of the last teams teams to bow to the pressure and there was a hoo haa about that at the time.

Edit: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1225325/Poppy-power-Now-Premier-clubs-refusing-Sportsmails-campaign-honour-heroes.html

There ya go it's even more recent than I thought, Liverpool were another of the 'rebels'
That article sums up all that is wrong with this. Poppy farce every year
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on December 03, 2018, 10:08:00 AM
Mark Hughes fired by Southampton  for drawing 2-2 with United at the weekend
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: GJL on December 03, 2018, 10:10:50 AM
Mark Hughes fired by Southampton  for drawing 2-2 with United at the weekend

Very Harsh.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on December 03, 2018, 10:39:57 AM
Not harsh. Play uninspiring football and constantly makes excuses. First manager sacked twice in one year in PL.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Dire Ear on December 03, 2018, 02:39:30 PM
Mark Hughes fired by Southampton  for drawing 2-2 with United at the weekend

Very Harsh.
Id agree
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: HiMucker on December 03, 2018, 02:47:00 PM
Honestly I thought he had been stealing a living the last few years. Was surprised Southampton appointed him in the first place and I am not surprised he has been sacked.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on December 03, 2018, 03:58:54 PM
Southampton in 2015,16,17 finished 6th,7th and 8th in the EPL. At the weekend Mark Hughes said something along the lines of they can't expect to be doing much better and to expect another relegation battle on their hands this season. I'd say once listening to that the board said thanks Mark but i think we'll replace you with a manager with a bit more ambition.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on December 03, 2018, 04:11:52 PM
They haven't won in the last 8 games. It was better against Utd but they threw away a 2 goal lead, at home.

Ex Leipzig manager  hasenhuttl favourite to take over. He might inspire them like Pochettino or Koeman.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on December 03, 2018, 04:31:02 PM
Southampton in 2015,16,17 finished 6th,7th and 8th in the EPL. At the weekend Mark Hughes said something along the lines of they can't expect to be doing much better and to expect another relegation battle on their hands this season. I'd say once listening to that the board said thanks Mark but i think we'll replace you with a manager with a bit more ambition.

Not kept much of an eye on Southampton fortunes but weren't they in the bottom 3 when he took them over late last season? The seem to have sold an inordinate number of decent players over the last 4/5 years whats their recruitment been like?

Hughes was hardly an inspired choice at the time. He'll likely appear at some top half championship side sooner rather than later.

Young Obefami looked ok the other night..
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on December 03, 2018, 05:03:30 PM
PLAYER   FROM   FEE   DATE
Pierre Hojbjerg   B Munich   £12,800,000   11 Jul, 2016
Alex McCarthy   C Palace   Undisc.   01 Aug, 2016
Jeremy Pied   Nice   Free   01 Aug, 2016
Sofiane Boufal   Lille   £16,000,000   28 Aug, 2016
Manolo Gabbiadini   Napoli   £14,600,000   30 Jan, 2017
Martin Caceres   Juventus   Free   12 Feb, 2017
Will Ferry   Bury   Undisc.   01 Jul, 2017
Jan Bednarek   Lech Poznan   £5,700,000   01 Jul, 2017
Mario Lemina   Juventus   £18,100,000   08 Aug, 2017
Wesley Hoedt   Lazio   £15,000,000   22 Aug, 2017
Guido Carrillo   Monaco   £19,000,000   25 Jan, 2018
Stuart Armstrong   Celtic   £7,000,000   26 Jun, 2018
Mohammed Elyounoussi   Basel   £16,000,000   29 Jun, 2018
Angus Gunn   Man City   £10,000,000   10 Jul, 2018
Jannik Vestergaard   Mgladbach   £18,000,000   13 Jul, 2018

153 Million spent!
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on December 03, 2018, 05:10:52 PM
Christ I've only heard of 3/4 of them, and mental as it seems 150 odd million is feck all especially over 3 years. Their outbox is tidy I'd say for same period of over last five years say
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on December 09, 2018, 02:14:50 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46498849

Disgraceful treatment of Sterling, watched the clip on tv and those giving the abuse are scumbags who should get lifetime bans.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on December 09, 2018, 03:30:11 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46498849

Disgraceful treatment of Sterling, watched the clip on tv and those giving the abuse are scumbags who should get lifetime bans.

The treatment of Sterling (amongst others) has long been lamentable. It probably started for him as he was leaving Liverpool he became a poster boy for the new age "sc**bag, money obsessed" footballer and has escalated since. The newspaper campaign against him has been bizarre.

Yesterday is less clear to me, I looked at that clip several times not able to figure out which guy I was looking out for until it was pointed out to me. Without being a lip reading expert I'd not like to see a man's life ruined on that clip alone. There have been over 3m views of that tweet and social media has overwhelming decided he's guilty - off with his head..
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Minder on December 09, 2018, 03:59:03 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46498849

Disgraceful treatment of Sterling, watched the clip on tv and those giving the abuse are scumbags who should get lifetime bans.

The treatment of Sterling (amongst others) has long been lamentable. It probably started for him as he was leaving Liverpool he became a poster boy for the new age "sc**bag, money obsessed" footballer and has escalated since. The newspaper campaign against him has been bizarre.

Yesterday is less clear to me, I looked at that clip several times not able to figure out which guy I was looking out for until it was pointed out to me. Without being a lip reading expert I'd not like to see a man's life ruined on that clip alone. There have been over 3m views of that tweet and social media has overwhelming decided he's guilty - off with his head..

Yeah it’s not clear cut at all, but trial by twitter only ends one way
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on December 09, 2018, 08:22:39 PM
No harm to you lads but Stevie Wonder could see what was said.....'Fcking black cnut'. This type of abuse is passed off over here just like sectarianism is in the north. There is no place for it and it should be called out for what it is.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on December 09, 2018, 08:36:07 PM
Or Manc. Ive watched it a few times and still not sure sure tbh

Still a tube and looks terrible
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on December 09, 2018, 08:58:47 PM
Yeah Manc is a definite possibility.

Looks terrible but let's be honest that happens every week at football (if its not racial)

Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on December 09, 2018, 09:01:26 PM
Yeah Manc is a definite possibility.

Looks terrible but let's be honest that happens every week at football (if its not racial)

It's been going on for years but that should not excuse it. The powers that be in the FA are not outspoken enough on this issue.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on December 09, 2018, 09:11:38 PM
Yeah Manc is a definite possibility.

Looks terrible but let's be honest that happens every week at football (if its not racial)

It's been going on for years but that should not excuse it. The powers that be in the FA are not outspoken enough on this issue.

Not quite sure how you stop fans shouting at players... Plenty of it in the GAA too.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on December 09, 2018, 09:39:22 PM
Yeah Manc is a definite possibility.

Looks terrible but let's be honest that happens every week at football (if its not racial)

It's been going on for years but that should not excuse it. The powers that be in the FA are not outspoken enough on this issue.

Not quite sure how you stop fans shouting at players... Plenty of it in the GAA too.

Those hurling racist abuse should be identified and banned.....and if the clubs won't do it then the FA should issue sanctions against the clubs.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on December 09, 2018, 09:56:01 PM
Agreed, if there is racist abuse..

But what I'm driving at is that is abuse like this every weekend minus the alleged racial element but that seems to be ok?
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on December 09, 2018, 10:05:37 PM
Agreed, if there is racist abuse..

But what I'm driving at is that is abuse like this every weekend minus the alleged racial element but that seems to be ok?

Agree with you.....you only have to look at some of the 'role models' and the way they speak to match officials.....the refs don't deal with it....a few red cards for verbal abuse would soon settle the players jets.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 09, 2018, 10:20:19 PM
Agreed, if there is racist abuse..

But what I'm driving at is that is abuse like this every weekend minus the alleged racial element but that seems to be ok?

Agree with you.....you only have to look at some of the 'role models' and the way they speak to match officials.....the refs don't deal with it....a few red cards for verbal abuse would soon settle the players jets.

Why a ref would take abuse is beyond me
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: GetOverTheBar on December 10, 2018, 11:31:40 AM
After the recent rugby trial thread on this board - I would have thought that innocent until proven guilty would have been drilled into even the most bloodthirsty here.

Not to stand up for a Chelsea fan, guilty or not - which is to be decided, ultimately the only person knows are the immediate vicinity witnesses and Sterling himself but there isn't a game played in the Premier League which a player doesn't get a load of it when he goes to take a corner. The amount of shock at this like it's a one off (again, assuming verbal abuse only) is beyond absurd. It happens every week, in every game. I'm not saying it's ok by any means, but Christ, some need to catch a grip here. Talk about jumping on a bandwagon.

I also find it quite insane how a Banana can be thrown at a black player just 7 days prior and there's not one post on it in this thread yet there's men out to hang people with what could be racist abuse / might not be - there is reasonable doubt (right now). This seems to be a more sticking the boot into Chelsea / Chelsea fans than actually caring about the subject from some here - which is really petty.

Anyway, if it was racial abuse - Raheem Sterling should be absolutely lauded for his reaction and restraint. Remarkable from the young man who people have said before is a bit of target for most kinds of abuse.


Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on December 10, 2018, 11:55:38 AM
After the recent rugby trial thread on this board - I would have thought that innocent until proven guilty would have been drilled into even the most bloodthirsty here.

Not to stand up for a Chelsea fan, guilty or not - which is to be decided, ultimately the only person knows are the immediate vicinity witnesses and Sterling himself but there isn't a game played in the Premier League which a player doesn't get a load of it when he goes to take a corner. The amount of shock at this like it's a one off (again, assuming verbal abuse only) is beyond absurd. It happens every week, in every game. I'm not saying it's ok by any means, but Christ, some need to catch a grip here. Talk about jumping on a bandwagon.

I also find it quite insane how a Banana can be thrown at a black player just 7 days prior and there's not one post on it in this thread yet there's men out to hang people with what could be racist abuse / might not be - there is reasonable doubt (right now). This seems to be a more sticking the boot into Chelsea / Chelsea fans than actually caring about the subject from some here - which is really petty.

Anyway, if it was racial abuse - Raheem Sterling should be absolutely lauded for his reaction and restraint. Remarkable from the young man who people have said before is a bit of target for most kinds of abuse.

Who/where are all these people sticking the boot into Chelsea?

The banana skin incident mightn't have been racial either..
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: GetOverTheBar on December 10, 2018, 12:10:44 PM
After the recent rugby trial thread on this board - I would have thought that innocent until proven guilty would have been drilled into even the most bloodthirsty here.

Not to stand up for a Chelsea fan, guilty or not - which is to be decided, ultimately the only person knows are the immediate vicinity witnesses and Sterling himself but there isn't a game played in the Premier League which a player doesn't get a load of it when he goes to take a corner. The amount of shock at this like it's a one off (again, assuming verbal abuse only) is beyond absurd. It happens every week, in every game. I'm not saying it's ok by any means, but Christ, some need to catch a grip here. Talk about jumping on a bandwagon.

I also find it quite insane how a Banana can be thrown at a black player just 7 days prior and there's not one post on it in this thread yet there's men out to hang people with what could be racist abuse / might not be - there is reasonable doubt (right now). This seems to be a more sticking the boot into Chelsea / Chelsea fans than actually caring about the subject from some here - which is really petty.

Anyway, if it was racial abuse - Raheem Sterling should be absolutely lauded for his reaction and restraint. Remarkable from the young man who people have said before is a bit of target for most kinds of abuse.

Who/where are all these people sticking the boot into Chelsea?

The banana skin incident mightn't have been racial either..

You must be trolling.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on December 10, 2018, 12:38:21 PM
Boycey, I was thinking that myself. Someone may have just eaten a banana and fired it in frustration at his own team or at an opposing player. I don’t know what they eat at soccer matches, but I’ve seen many’s an apple, orange, banana etc eaten at GAA matches.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: GetOverTheBar on December 10, 2018, 12:54:52 PM
Boycey, I was thinking that myself. Someone may have just eaten a banana and fired it in frustration at his own team or at an opposing player. I don’t know what they eat at soccer matches, but I’ve seen many’s an apple, orange, banana etc eaten at GAA matches.

I'm as open minded as the next man lads but there can be minimal chance that someone has thrown a Banana/Banana Skin at a Black player, just after scoring a goal and it not be a racial incident.

As for the GAA thing, not exactly many young lads from the Gabon togging out in corner forward at any games I've been to.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 10, 2018, 12:56:42 PM
I didn't even see anything about a banana incident.

The sterling thing wouldn't be about chelsea. Ian Wright and Gary Lineker picked it up on twitter and that made it run and in addition Sterling tweeted himself about it.Those 3 things would give it legs. Also the fact that people are able to put together about 30 tweets worth of crap that Sterling gets which is very inconsistent with other players has given it mileage.

I would be inclined to say I am not 100% sure what the guy said and whether or not it was racist but he is clearly an arsehole. I watched the game and the corner was almost directly after when David Luiz had got wrecked by Sterling. It was actually Luiz's fault as he went do do sterling and sterling jumped up with his knees to avoid him and ending up wrecking Luiz's ribs. However with that I think "emotions" about him were running higher.

I also do wonder if it's a "class" thing as opposed to a race thing. It's bullshit whatever it is but there are others get this abuse who aren't people of colour.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Boycey on December 10, 2018, 01:14:27 PM
Benny put the case for I think MAY have happened. It was a banana skin not a banana that'd mean it was probably bought for eating not throwing. It wouldn't be that unusual for things to pegged at a player in a high emotion game like that, maybe the lad just had it in his hand and lobbed it. Doesn't stop him from being a dick though, he's been charged but I'd say it be hard to make racial element, if there is any, stick.

One good thing the Sterling thing has done is make the papers squirm they are at the root of most of the hate in my opinion. Over the years they treated people like Beckham, Graham Taylor, Gazza, Rooney plus many more appallingly
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Dire Ear on December 10, 2018, 01:25:56 PM
Since when did you start throwing ANY kind of food at a sportsperson ???
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: GetOverTheBar on December 10, 2018, 01:54:55 PM
Benny put the case for I think MAY have happened. It was a banana skin not a banana that'd mean it was probably bought for eating not throwing. It wouldn't be that unusual for things to pegged at a player in a high emotion game like that, maybe the lad just had it in his hand and lobbed it. Doesn't stop him from being a dick though, he's been charged but I'd say it be hard to make racial element, if there is any, stick.

One good thing the Sterling thing has done is make the papers squirm they are at the root of most of the hate in my opinion. Over the years they treated people like Beckham, Graham Taylor, Gazza, Rooney plus many more appallingly

Agreed and Sterling should be commended on how he has reacted to this. Thought he came across very well in the Man City documentary - obviously it's edited extremely kindly, but even still as a person he was not who we are told he 'should be'.

Unfortunately this looks like another instance however when one person (or a few) have obviously let themselves down a complete bagful in the national eye - but, they are average joes so nobody will care tomorrow. Quick - lets get the next Celeb head on the chopping block though.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on December 10, 2018, 08:37:34 PM
Boycey, I was thinking that myself. Someone may have just eaten a banana and fired it in frustration at his own team or at an opposing player. I don’t know what they eat at soccer matches, but I’ve seen many’s an apple, orange, banana etc eaten at GAA matches.

I've been going to 'soccer' matches for well over fifty years and I don't remember anyone eating a banana at one.
I do remember however plenty of bananas been thrown at Black players.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: Main Street on December 11, 2018, 03:19:30 PM
Boycey, I was thinking that myself. Someone may have just eaten a banana and fired it in frustration at his own team or at an opposing player. I don’t know what they eat at soccer matches, but I’ve seen many’s an apple, orange, banana etc eaten at GAA matches.
The default interpretation of an incident where a banana/banana skin is thrown at a black player, is that it's racist. Same with making monkey noises. Intent does need to be proven before the offensive person be found guilty. The action itself is proof of racism in football grounds since the year dot. It is astonishing that some here don't know that.

It would be up to the offender to offer an extraordinary explanation to establish some doubt, in all likliehood most all defences would defy belief because  a person would have to be utterly bereft of intelligence  to throw a banana skin in innocence at a black player, unless perhaps they went by the name of Rip Van Winkle and had been asleep for the last 20 to 50 years.
Title: Re: The official Premier League 2018/19 Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on December 11, 2018, 06:41:26 PM
Boycey, I was thinking that myself. Someone may have just eaten a banana and fired it in frustration at his own team or at an opposing player. I don’t know what they eat at soccer matches, but I’ve seen many’s an apple, orange, banana etc eaten at GAA matches.
The default interpretation of an incident where a banana/banana skin is thrown at a black player, is that it's racist. Same with making monkey noises. Intent does need to be proven before the offensive person be found guilty. The action itself is proof of racism in football grounds since the year dot. It is astonishing that some here don't know that.

It would be up to the offender to offer an extraordinary explanation to establish some doubt, in all likliehood most all defences would defy belief because  a person would have to be utterly bereft of intelligence  to throw a banana skin in innocence at a black player, unless perhaps they went by the name of Rip Van Winkle and had been asleep for the last 20 to 50 years.

Succinctly put MS. And it's not as if these actions  are confined to England.