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Title: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: rrhf on May 08, 2018, 10:10:34 PM
Won’t be beat. Best chance in 30 years.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Rois on May 08, 2018, 10:11:31 PM
Marty’s breaking out the Baileys early he says.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: ONeill on May 08, 2018, 10:13:06 PM
Didnt see that coming.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: rrhf on May 08, 2018, 10:17:02 PM
It’s a good tune well song. Time for a ballad. Ireland always done well with ballads - not too rock not too pop. In fact I think they should enter next year with “The ballad of Johnny Logan”lovely tune.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Itchy on May 08, 2018, 10:36:15 PM
Hooorah
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 08, 2018, 10:44:17 PM
It’s a good tune well song. Time for a ballad. Ireland always done well with ballads - not too rock not too pop. In fact I think they should enter next year with “The ballad of Johnny Logan”lovely tune.
Thought it was a shite song and was poorly sang. What was the two lads dancing around for? to win the gay vote from other countries? if so it worked.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Boycey on May 08, 2018, 10:46:19 PM
Oddschecker gives Ireland’s odds as ranging from 50/1 out to 300/1...
Title: the ballad of Johnny Logan verse 1 and 2
Post by: rrhf on May 08, 2018, 10:59:31 PM
Before big jack took the country down Stuttgart way
And long Before the gpa cried about pay for play
After the pope came to Ireland and boy did we pray
There was one Johnny Logan a man of his day

With Haughey in charge and the country in disarray
There was no Brexit plans and no Theresa may
There was no prospect of a Taoiseach enlightened and gay
Yet there was one Jonny Logan a man of his day.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 08, 2018, 11:23:13 PM
My sister reckoned it would be a travesty if he didn't get through. Fair play to him.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on May 09, 2018, 08:36:24 AM
It’s a good tune well song. Time for a ballad. Ireland always done well with ballads - not too rock not too pop. In fact I think they should enter next year with “The ballad of Johnny Logan”lovely tune.
Thought it was a shite song and was poorly sang. What was the two lads dancing around for? to win the gay vote from other countries? if so it worked.

Only heard it for first time last night, not my bag but I thought a reasonable ballad and the lad is able to sing.  I think it shows that the trick is you send a decent song rather than gurning about regional voting.   It is the best we have sent in a long time.  Admittedly choosing gay dancers to tell the story is a tad cynical but it's not the worst thing in the world.

My kids are big into Eurovision and having some skin the game adds to the excitement for Saturday.  Irlande douze points!

/Jim.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: AQMP on May 09, 2018, 10:53:42 AM
Not my type of music and I thought the pitch was a bit too high but best of luck to the lad.  Don't think it has much of a chance of winning.  My daughters are big into Eurovision and it's a bit of a novelty for them to have Ireland in the final.  God be with the days when we used to win it every other year!

What's all this "we can't vote for ourselves" bollocks??  Should RTE not be encouraging Northerners to vote for Ireland?? ;)  Both my girls did!  Oh yeah, and f**k the UK out of it after Brexit!
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: BennyCake on May 09, 2018, 10:55:18 AM
Was Dick Byrne shafted again?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Rois on May 09, 2018, 10:57:58 AM
We were in Lisbon at the weekend and visited the Eurovision Village, great craic - live music on the stage, beers and sangria in the sun, and a few sponsor stands to visit (including one with two Teslas that you could sit in).  Police absolutely everywhere. 
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Asal Mor on May 11, 2018, 02:06:53 PM
Ireland have gone from no hopers in the betting to one of the favourites after the Chinese broadcasters didn't show the Irish performance because of the gay dancers. Eurovision have barred the Chinese channel from showing the event.

That gay dance routine was an absolute stroke of genius.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: johnnycool on May 11, 2018, 02:30:39 PM
Ireland have gone from no hopers in the betting to one of the favourites after the Chinese broadcasters didn't show the Irish performance because of the gay dancers. Eurovision have barred the Chinese channel from showing the event.

That gay dance routine was an absolute stroke of genius.

Imagine if the rainbow vote is enough to get Ireland over the line...

Catholic Ireland where have you gone?   ;D
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: An Watcher on May 11, 2018, 07:51:34 PM
Fair play to them.
Can't believe I'm saying this but the song is actually growing on me!
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Capt Pat on May 11, 2018, 08:21:11 PM
We are 3rd favourites with the bookies now. It could happen.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 11, 2018, 09:46:31 PM
Fair play to them.
Can't believe I'm saying this but the song is actually growing on me!
Not growing on me anyway. Even Mickey Hartes song "We've Got the World" was more of a catchy tune.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: armaghniac on May 11, 2018, 10:19:30 PM
We are 3rd favourites with the bookies now. It could happen.

All the trendy folk who think Eurovision is naff are all turned on by a whiff of perversion.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 12, 2018, 12:14:55 AM
Fair play to them.
Can't believe I'm saying this but the song is actually growing on me!

It’s a grower not a show’er? I’ll get my coat
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: longballin on May 12, 2018, 12:24:47 AM
We are 3rd favourites with the bookies now. It could happen.

All the trendy folk who think Eurovision is naff are all turned on by a whiff of perversion.

Bring back fascism eh?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: armaghniac on May 12, 2018, 01:48:39 AM
We are 3rd favourites with the bookies now. It could happen.

All the trendy folk who think Eurovision is naff are all turned on by a whiff of perversion.

Bring back fascism eh?

Marching tunes were more their thing
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: macdanger2 on May 12, 2018, 01:53:06 AM
Ireland have gone from no hopers in the betting to one of the favourites after the Chinese broadcasters didn't show the Irish performance because of the gay dancers. Eurovision have barred the Chinese channel from showing the event.

That gay dance routine was an absolute stroke of genius.

Imagine if the rainbow vote is enough to get Ireland over the line...

Catholic Ireland where have you gone?   ;D

Sure it takes all kinds of everything
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: rrhf on May 12, 2018, 08:18:24 AM
It’s gonna take as big a pink vote as possible  macdanger so vote early and vote often and get your friends voting as well.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: laoislad on May 12, 2018, 08:37:31 AM
Ireland have gone from no hopers in the betting to one of the favourites after the Chinese broadcasters didn't show the Irish performance because of the gay dancers. Eurovision have barred the Chinese channel from showing the event.

That gay dance routine was an absolute stroke of genius.

Imagine if the rainbow vote is enough to get Ireland over the line...

Catholic Ireland where have you gone?   ;D

Sure it takes all kinds of everything
And sure what's another year even if they don't win it.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on May 12, 2018, 09:05:28 AM
If we win, I can hear RTÉ executives scream "Why Me".
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: armaghniac on May 12, 2018, 12:41:02 PM
If we win it is because we are the Rock and Roll kids.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: ONeill on May 12, 2018, 03:59:33 PM
He's definitely not The Voice.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: armaghniac on May 12, 2018, 04:08:30 PM
He still deserves Congratulations for his Ceol an Ghrá.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: laoislad on May 12, 2018, 10:02:36 PM
First time I heard the Irish song. Thought he did well fair play to him.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Asal Mor on May 12, 2018, 10:03:48 PM
Fair play to them.
Can't believe I'm saying this but the song is actually growing on me!
Growing on me too.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 12, 2018, 10:17:45 PM
What happened on the UK song did some try to stop it?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 12, 2018, 10:24:25 PM
Ireland were 5/1 before the song was sang tonight and now its 10/1..
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Asal Mor on May 12, 2018, 10:28:45 PM
Ireland were 5/1 before the song was sang tonight and now its 10/1..
The second Great Irish Famine to continue? Still think it could be our year.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: An Watcher on May 12, 2018, 10:41:47 PM
Aye the stage invader has boosted the brits chances and pushed everyone else down the pecking order
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: sid waddell on May 12, 2018, 10:48:33 PM
We'll get top 10.

Cyprus should have it, but I'm not sure that sort of booty shaking appeals to the average Eurovision voter.

Certianly appealed to me though.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: armaghniac on May 12, 2018, 10:55:45 PM
First three votes, null point hat trick.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Aaron Boone on May 12, 2018, 11:02:37 PM
RTE accountants can breath a sigh of relief.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Avondhu star on May 12, 2018, 11:05:09 PM
The main thing was that we showed how cool we are with a couple of gobshites dancing together
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: StGallsGAA on May 12, 2018, 11:12:10 PM
Ireland were 5/1 before the song was sang tonight and now its 10/1..
The second Great Irish Famine to continue? Still think it could be our year.

That's the sort of joke we've come to expect from Rangers fans.  The famine should never be a laughing matter dude.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on May 12, 2018, 11:19:22 PM
No famine systematic starvation. Almost half of Britains 130 regiments 69 in total were stationed in Ireland and stole our food at gun point.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: laoislad on May 12, 2018, 11:28:54 PM
Yer wan giving the Swiss results was some babe.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Avondhu star on May 12, 2018, 11:42:16 PM
Israel. Ha ha ha.  Happy night in Tel Aviv
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 12, 2018, 11:43:21 PM
The voting system is bigger joke than before. Poor song won it but then again most if not all songs were poor tonight.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Syferus on May 12, 2018, 11:44:32 PM
The voting system is bigger joke than before. Poor song won it but then again most if not all songs were poor tonight.

You’re seriously criticising song quaility at the Eurovision? Seriously?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Capt Pat on May 12, 2018, 11:45:29 PM
Ireland finished in the middle of the pack.

Stupid hostess gave away the final outcome before announcing the final vote.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: BennyCake on May 12, 2018, 11:46:56 PM
Jesus, what is that shite that won?

Sounds like I've walked into a henhouse.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 12, 2018, 11:48:23 PM
Jesus, what is that shite that won?

Sounds like I've walked into a henhouse.
Awful altogether.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: mrdeeds on May 12, 2018, 11:48:52 PM
Ireland finished in the middle of the pack.

Stupid hostess gave away the final outcome before announcing the final vote.

No she didn't. Once the second last announced it was obvious who won.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: mrdeeds on May 12, 2018, 11:49:57 PM
I can't believe I contributed to a forum about eurovision. Feck sake pre Cavan Donegal nerves.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Capt Pat on May 12, 2018, 11:54:05 PM
Ireland finished in the middle of the pack.

Stupid hostess gave away the final outcome before announcing the final vote.

No she didn't. Once the second last announced it was obvious who won.

She blew it. The aim was to build tension before the penultimate vote was announced. She said Cyprus were leading before announcing the actual vote. :'(
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Itchy on May 12, 2018, 11:56:43 PM
Major congrats to Israel who achieved this key international victory without the need to murder any children. A first.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: From the Bunker on May 13, 2018, 12:00:42 AM
Best song was from the UK!

Eurovision has had some decent winners in recent years despite the whining every year about block voting.

But the sh1te that won this year! Sh1te!
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Avondhu star on May 13, 2018, 12:01:47 AM
Ireland finished in the middle of the pack.

Stupid hostess gave away the final outcome before announcing the final vote.

She did have a couple of good points though
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Windmill abu on May 13, 2018, 12:02:20 AM
Major congrats to Israel who achieved this key international victory without the need to murder any children. A first.

The singer looks like she may have ate a few (as long as they were kosher)
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: BennyCake on May 13, 2018, 12:04:02 AM
Major congrats to Israel who achieved this key international victory without the need to murder any children. A first.

You never know with that shower.

A big lads weekend in Jerusalem next year so.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 13, 2018, 12:12:04 AM
Smile will be on the other side of Eurovision's face tomorrow when they discover every telephone vote cast for Israel reversed the charges
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: gallsman on May 13, 2018, 12:30:18 AM
Smile will be on the other side of Eurovision's face tomorrow when they discover every telephone vote cast for Israel reversed the charges

Really? A jews are tight with money joke?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: BennyCake on May 13, 2018, 12:33:21 AM
Smile will be on the other side of Eurovision's face tomorrow when they discover every telephone vote cast for Israel reversed the charges

You never know with that shower.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 13, 2018, 12:33:53 AM
Yes. A bit of light humour. Have you some point to make?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: ONeill on May 13, 2018, 12:34:52 AM
Best song won. Had a bit on Austria for top 5 too and public vote nearly jeopardised that.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 13, 2018, 12:35:06 AM
Smile will be on the other side of Eurovision's face tomorrow when they discover every telephone vote cast for Israel reversed the charges

Really? A jews are tight with money joke?
Yes. A bit of light humour. Have you some point to make?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: ONeill on May 13, 2018, 12:37:31 AM
The voting system is bigger joke than before. Poor song won it but then again most if not all songs were poor tonight.

Top quality songs this year. There were 8 worthy winners.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 13, 2018, 12:39:28 AM
Wouldn't disagree with that, but the song that won it was along the same lines as Dustins effort some years ago.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Esmarelda on May 13, 2018, 12:47:17 AM
Italy's anti-war song was no match for the might of the Israeli chicken song.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 13, 2018, 12:50:28 AM
The voting system is bigger joke than before. Poor song won it but then again most if not all songs were poor tonight.

Top quality songs this year. There were 8 worthy winners.
How much home brew were you knocking back while watching it?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Christmas Lights on May 13, 2018, 01:08:08 AM
Awful.song to win it. Rotten

Thought Ireland's song was the best without being biased.

Eurovision is so unbelievably sh1t tbh
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 13, 2018, 01:18:42 AM
What country did win?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Syferus on May 13, 2018, 01:54:02 AM
Awful.song to win it. Rotten

Thought Ireland's song was the best without being biased.

Eurovision is so unbelievably sh1t tbh

It was just another sachrine ballad. It is total biased to say it was in any way remarkably better than the best.

The Eurovision so great if you have enough humour to take it in the right spirit. If you can’t the question really is why were you watching it to begin with?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: RedHand88 on May 13, 2018, 01:55:00 AM
What country did win?

Don't ask...
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on May 13, 2018, 06:22:22 AM
Wouldn't disagree with that, but the song that won it was along the same lines as Dustins effort some years ago.

+1
No point trying better to send a joke entry seems to work every few years. Feel a bit sorry for the likes of Austria, Germany and Cyprus who made the effort and then some complete mess vomits up some random noises and wins. For the record Dustins tune was quite catchy.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: An Watcher on May 13, 2018, 07:37:39 AM
Some of the songs this year were quite good with the German entrant being excellent in my opinion.  The winner though was very poor which says it all about Eurovision really
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Esmarelda on May 13, 2018, 08:47:25 AM
I found that the majority of songs sounded exactly like somebody else. Germany = Ed Sheeran for example.

I though the Czech song was relatively original and quirky and would have been my pick. I thought Germany would win it. I thought the UK's was awful altogether. Ireland's was as bland a ballad as you could get. Marty Whelan is beyond unbearable.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: From the Bunker on May 13, 2018, 08:51:56 AM
I found that the majority of songs sounded exactly like somebody else. Germany = Ed Sheeran for example.

I though the Czech song was relatively original and quirky and would have been my pick. I thought Germany would win it. I thought the UK's was awful altogether. Ireland's was as bland a ballad as you could get. Marty Whelan is beyond unbearable.

Marty is trying to much to be like Terry Wogan. Also he was totally lost in the scoring system!
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Esmarelda on May 13, 2018, 09:05:38 AM
I found that the majority of songs sounded exactly like somebody else. Germany = Ed Sheeran for example.

I though the Czech song was relatively original and quirky and would have been my pick. I thought Germany would win it. I thought the UK's was awful altogether. Ireland's was as bland a ballad as you could get. Marty Whelan is beyond unbearable.

Marty is trying to much to be like Terry Wogan. Also he was totally lost in the scoring system!
Noticed that alright. I think he was looking to the right of each entrant were their totals were rather than to the left where the current scores were shown. He mustn't have been expecting to be on  :P
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: gallsman on May 13, 2018, 10:51:34 AM
Smile will be on the other side of Eurovision's face tomorrow when they discover every telephone vote cast for Israel reversed the charges

Really? A jews are tight with money joke?
Yes. A bit of light humour. Have you some point to make?

Yes. It was a joke in poor taste that reinforces old antisemitic tropes.

That sort of thing is ok around here though.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: grounded on May 13, 2018, 11:19:42 AM
Smile will be on the other side of Eurovision's face tomorrow when they discover every telephone vote cast for Israel reversed the charges

Really? A jews are tight with money joke?
Yes. A bit of light humour. Have you some point to make?

Yes. It was a joke in poor taste that reinforces old antisemitic tropes.

That sort of thing is ok around here though.

Shi#te, thats me in trouble then. Told a similar joke at work last week but it was a scottish person instead.
         Come to think of it, someone else was slagging off Cavan(sorry anyone from Cavan on here) people for being tight during another discussion. I shall be reporting him first thing tomorrow.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Lar Naparka on May 13, 2018, 11:37:43 AM
I must say I found it compulsive viewing but for all the wrong reasons.   ;D
Mind you, I had to turn the sound off between acts as Marty and his non-stop drivel was wrecking my head. He’s about as funny as Brendan O’Connor. ‘Nuff said!

Our fella was bad enough with the two laddybucks leppin’ all over the place. Their antics were synchronised with what yer man and his guitars was doing and to cap it all, the winner was a female Sumo wrestler, wearing a kimono, some cultural clash! That was funny enough but to cap it all, she thought she was a chicken!
I can’t wait for next year. Mrs. Brown’s Boys isn’t nearly half as funny.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: gallsman on May 13, 2018, 11:40:36 AM
Smile will be on the other side of Eurovision's face tomorrow when they discover every telephone vote cast for Israel reversed the charges

Really? A jews are tight with money joke?
Yes. A bit of light humour. Have you some point to make?

Yes. It was a joke in poor taste that reinforces old antisemitic tropes.

That sort of thing is ok around here though.

Shi#te, thats me in trouble then. Told a similar joke at work last week but it was a scottish person instead.
         Come to think of it, someone else was slagging off Cavan(sorry anyone from Cavan on here) people for being tight during another discussion. I shall be reporting him first thing tomorrow.

I forgot how much that stereotype has been used as an excuse to systematically persecute Cavan people over the centuries. Thanks for reminding me.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: sid waddell on May 13, 2018, 11:52:19 AM
Smile will be on the other side of Eurovision's face tomorrow when they discover every telephone vote cast for Israel reversed the charges

Really? A jews are tight with money joke?
Yes. A bit of light humour. Have you some point to make?

Yes. It was a joke in poor taste that reinforces old antisemitic tropes.

That sort of thing is ok around here though.

Shi#te, thats me in trouble then. Told a similar joke at work last week but it was a scottish person instead.
         Come to think of it, someone else was slagging off Cavan(sorry anyone from Cavan on here) people for being tight during another discussion. I shall be reporting him first thing tomorrow.
Has there been a genocide perpetrated against Scottish people or Cavan people, in which the portrayal of them as "money grabbers" was used to mobilise the widespread, systemic hatred and prejudice against them which enables genocide to happen?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: bennydorano on May 13, 2018, 12:06:24 PM
Smile will be on the other side of Eurovision's face tomorrow when they discover every telephone vote cast for Israel reversed the charges

Really? A jews are tight with money joke?
Yes. A bit of light humour. Have you some point to make?

Yes. It was a joke in poor taste that reinforces old antisemitic tropes.

That sort of thing is ok around here though.

Shi#te, thats me in trouble then. Told a similar joke at work last week but it was a scottish person instead.
         Come to think of it, someone else was slagging off Cavan(sorry anyone from Cavan on here) people for being tight during another discussion. I shall be reporting him first thing tomorrow.

I forgot how much that stereotype has been used as an excuse to systematically persecute over the centuries. Thanks for reminding me.
Probably a bit ironic that your strapline reads "Never mind your why. Why ain't in your repetoire no more n***a" while making that point about persecution.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: BennyCake on May 13, 2018, 12:07:31 PM
Smile will be on the other side of Eurovision's face tomorrow when they discover every telephone vote cast for Israel reversed the charges

Really? A jews are tight with money joke?
Yes. A bit of light humour. Have you some point to make?

Is there an echo in here?  ;D
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: BennyCake on May 13, 2018, 12:09:40 PM
What country did win?

A country that doesn't even exist, and is not even in Europe.

Sums up Eurovision really.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: gallsman on May 13, 2018, 12:11:54 PM
Smile will be on the other side of Eurovision's face tomorrow when they discover every telephone vote cast for Israel reversed the charges

Really? A jews are tight with money joke?
Yes. A bit of light humour. Have you some point to make?

Yes. It was a joke in poor taste that reinforces old antisemitic tropes.

That sort of thing is ok around here though.

Shi#te, thats me in trouble then. Told a similar joke at work last week but it was a scottish person instead.
         Come to think of it, someone else was slagging off Cavan(sorry anyone from Cavan on here) people for being tight during another discussion. I shall be reporting him first thing tomorrow.

I forgot how much that stereotype has been used as an excuse to systematically persecute over the centuries. Thanks for reminding me.
Probably a bit ironic that your strapline reads "Never mind your why. Why ain't in your repetoire no more n***a" while making that point about persecution.

I'm not sure you understand what irony means.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: sid waddell on May 13, 2018, 12:15:48 PM
What country did win?

A country that doesn't even exist, and is not even in Europe.

Sums up Eurovision really.
Really?

What's your basis for stating such?

And what country do you come from?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: bennydorano on May 13, 2018, 12:28:18 PM
Smile will be on the other side of Eurovision's face tomorrow when they discover every telephone vote cast for Israel reversed the charges

Really? A jews are tight with money joke?
Yes. A bit of light humour. Have you some point to make?

Yes. It was a joke in poor taste that reinforces old antisemitic tropes.

That sort of thing is ok around here though.

Shi#te, thats me in trouble then. Told a similar joke at work last week but it was a scottish person instead.
         Come to think of it, someone else was slagging off Cavan(sorry anyone from Cavan on here) people for being tight during another discussion. I shall be reporting him first thing tomorrow.

I forgot how much that stereotype has been used as an excuse to systematically persecute over the centuries. Thanks for reminding me.
Probably a bit ironic that your strapline reads "Never mind your why. Why ain't in your repetoire no more n***a" while making that point about persecution.

I'm not sure you understand what irony means.
Zing
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 13, 2018, 12:45:16 PM
Smile will be on the other side of Eurovision's face tomorrow when they discover every telephone vote cast for Israel reversed the charges

Really? A jews are tight with money joke?
Yes. A bit of light humour. Have you some point to make?
Jesus wept

Yes. It was a joke in poor taste that reinforces old antisemitic tropes.

That sort of thing is ok around here though.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: gallsman on May 13, 2018, 12:52:26 PM
You disagree?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 13, 2018, 12:59:13 PM
You disagree?
Absolutely. Just a big if harmless fun. Just like 'Did you hear about the Jewish kamikazi pilot? He landed in his brother's scrapyard'
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 13, 2018, 01:00:58 PM
Jesus Christ lads it’s the f**king Eurovision!!! 
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 13, 2018, 01:05:31 PM
Here there's a brave buzz around Cross today
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 13, 2018, 03:31:27 PM
Here there's a brave buzz around Cross today

The sound of red diesel?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 13, 2018, 04:10:32 PM
Actually you're not a million miles away there. There was a charity tractor run event taking place
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: armaghniac on May 13, 2018, 04:58:20 PM
Actually you're not a million miles away there. There was a charity tractor run event taking place

Some nice yokes, although many of them are merely ordinary enough elderly machines.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: longballin on May 13, 2018, 05:44:03 PM
A summer of this : (  missing club month already
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: grounded on May 13, 2018, 07:54:05 PM
Smile will be on the other side of Eurovision's face tomorrow when they discover every telephone vote cast for Israel reversed the charges

Really? A jews are tight with money joke?
Yes. A bit of light humour. Have you some point to make?

Yes. It was a joke in poor taste that reinforces old antisemitic tropes.

That sort of thing is ok around here though.

Shi#te, thats me in trouble then. Told a similar joke at work last week but it was a scottish person instead.
         Come to think of it, someone else was slagging off Cavan(sorry anyone from Cavan on here) people for being tight during another discussion. I shall be reporting him first thing tomorrow.
Has there been a genocide perpetrated against Scottish people or Cavan people, in which the portrayal of them as "money grabbers" was used to mobilise the widespread, systemic hatred and prejudice against them which enables genocide to happen?

Not sure about the scots but the Cavan wans have been given awful stick over the years.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 13, 2018, 10:04:10 PM
I don't see anything wrong with it.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: BennyCake on May 13, 2018, 10:14:44 PM
Supposed anti-semitism isn't acceptable, but anti-catholic, anti-irish, anti-abortion seems very acceptable.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: gallsman on May 13, 2018, 10:15:23 PM
That's without doubt one of the most pathetic comments I've seen on this site. Embarrassing stuff. Inability to distinguish between the state of Israel and "the Jews". Whinging about people playing the anti-Semitism card by being shockingly anti-Semitic.

I don't see anything wrong with it.

As for this, I'm not sure whether you're on the windup or genuinely see nothing wrong with that post.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: gallsman on May 13, 2018, 10:15:50 PM
Supposed anti-semitism isn't acceptable, but anti-catholic, anti-irish, anti-abortion seems very acceptable.

Lololol the absolute state of you trying to draw an equivalence there.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: BennyCake on May 13, 2018, 10:19:09 PM
Supposed anti-semitism isn't acceptable, but anti-catholic, anti-irish, anti-abortion seems very acceptable.

Lololol the absolute state of you trying to draw an equivalence there.

The old saying of a tight arse Scot or Yorkshireman is laughed at, but when it's a jew... Oh, you can't say that!  ::)
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: sid waddell on May 13, 2018, 10:23:31 PM
Supposed anti-semitism isn't acceptable, but anti-catholic, anti-irish, anti-abortion seems very acceptable.

Lololol the absolute state of you trying to draw an equivalence there.

The old saying of a tight arse Scot or Yorkshireman is laughed at, but when it's a jew... Oh, you can't say that!  ::)

Watch this and realise what a dunce you are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_F27ejh3x4
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: gallsman on May 13, 2018, 10:24:20 PM
Supposed anti-semitism isn't acceptable, but anti-catholic, anti-irish, anti-abortion seems very acceptable.

Lololol the absolute state of you trying to draw an equivalence there.

The old saying of a tight arse Scot or Yorkshireman is laughed at, but when it's a jew... Oh, you can't say that!  ::)

As stated above, I'm not very familiar with the stereotype of the "money grabbing Scotsman" being used to systematically persecute the Scots (up to and including genocide) over the centuries. Perhaps you could refresh my memory?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: trileacman on May 13, 2018, 10:24:54 PM
Jesus the snowflakes have fcuked the euro-vision thread now too.

Is nowhere safe?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: ONeill on May 13, 2018, 10:25:29 PM
Jesus the snowflakes have fcuked the euro-vision thread now too.

Is nowhere safe?

Nowhere.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: sid waddell on May 13, 2018, 10:28:54 PM
Jesus the snowflakes have fcuked the euro-vision thread now too.

Is nowhere safe?
It's mad the way there's a cohort of posters who cry "bully" as soon as they're outpointed in a debate.

And then see nothing wrong with obvious naked anti-semitism, calling anybody who objects a snowflake.

Mad, I tells ya.

There's a rather obvious hypocrisy there, but sure, nah...why even bother...

Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: ONeill on May 13, 2018, 10:33:04 PM
Snowdrops and daffodils
Butterflies and bees
Sailboats and fishermen
Things of the sea
Wishing-wells
Wedding bells
Early morning dew
All kinds of everything remind me of you
Seagulls and aeroplanes
Things of the sky
Winds that go howlin'
Breezes that sigh
City sights
Neon lights
Grey skies or blue
All kinds of everything remind me of you
Summertime
Wintertime
Spring and autumn too
Monday
Tuesday every day
I think of you.
Dances
Romances
Things of the night
Sunshine and holidays
Postcards to write
Budding trees
Autumn leaves
A snowflake or two
All kinds of everything remind me of you.
Summertime
Wintertime
Spring and autumn too
Seasons will never change
The way that I love you.
Dances
Romances
Things of the night
Sunshine and holidays
Postcards to write
Budding trees
Autumn leaves
A snowflake or two
All kinds of everything remind me of you.
All kinds of everything remind me of you.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: BennyCake on May 13, 2018, 10:36:49 PM
Supposed anti-semitism isn't acceptable, but anti-catholic, anti-irish, anti-abortion seems very acceptable.

Lololol the absolute state of you trying to draw an equivalence there.

The old saying of a tight arse Scot or Yorkshireman is laughed at, but when it's a jew... Oh, you can't say that!  ::)

As stated above, I'm not very familiar with the stereotype of the "money grabbing Scotsman" being used to systematically persecute the Scots (up to and including genocide) over the centuries. Perhaps you could refresh my memory?

It's not just the stuff the Israeli state has done, it's the stereotypes like the tight Scotsman that can't even be spoken of. All attempts of reference to the Jewish people is lumped into the big anti-semitism net.

A tight Jew or a drunken Irishman. Why is one an acceptable stereotype and one not?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: trileacman on May 13, 2018, 10:40:29 PM
It was a joke and pretty f**king harmless for a bunch of white Irish people on a GAA forum.

Go write a strongly worded letter to Sacha Baron Cohen or Seth McFarlane who've spent the best part of 15 years telling the same kind of jokes to the mass market.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: sid waddell on May 13, 2018, 10:47:10 PM
Supposed anti-semitism isn't acceptable, but anti-catholic, anti-irish, anti-abortion seems very acceptable.

Lololol the absolute state of you trying to draw an equivalence there.

The old saying of a tight arse Scot or Yorkshireman is laughed at, but when it's a jew... Oh, you can't say that!  ::)

As stated above, I'm not very familiar with the stereotype of the "money grabbing Scotsman" being used to systematically persecute the Scots (up to and including genocide) over the centuries. Perhaps you could refresh my memory?

It's not just the stuff the Israeli state has done, it's the stereotypes like the tight Scotsman that can't even be spoken of. All attempts of reference to the Jewish people is lumped into the big anti-semitism net.

A tight Jew or a drunken Irishman. Why is one an acceptable stereotype and one not?
Are you pretending to be stupid or are you genuinely stupid?

I think I know the answer to this one, actually, having had the misfortune to read a range of your infantile posts on different subjects.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Rois on May 13, 2018, 10:55:02 PM
Supposed anti-semitism isn't acceptable, but anti-catholic, anti-irish, anti-abortion seems very acceptable.

Lololol the absolute state of you trying to draw an equivalence there.

The old saying of a tight arse Scot or Yorkshireman is laughed at, but when it's a jew... Oh, you can't say that!  ::)

As stated above, I'm not very familiar with the stereotype of the "money grabbing Scotsman" being used to systematically persecute the Scots (up to and including genocide) over the centuries. Perhaps you could refresh my memory?

It's not just the stuff the Israeli state has done, it's the stereotypes like the tight Scotsman that can't even be spoken of. All attempts of reference to the Jewish people is lumped into the big anti-semitism net.

A tight Jew or a drunken Irishman. Why is one an acceptable stereotype and one not?
Are you pretending to be stupid or are you genuinely stupid?

I think I know the answer to this one, actually, having had the misfortune to read a range of your infantile posts on different subjects.
As someone who earlier on this thread alluded to the ass-shaking of the females in the Cyprus act, i’d be careful when you try to link threads. What about treating women as second class citizens? Ok to objectify them when singing on the stage? Nothing to do with singing, lyrics etc. 
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: gallsman on May 13, 2018, 10:56:45 PM
It was a joke and pretty f**king harmless for a bunch of white Irish people on a GAA forum.

Go write a strongly worded letter to Sacha Baron Cohen or Seth McFarlane who've spent the best part of 15 years telling the same kind of jokes to the mass market.

Why would I go and contact some famous satirists about some moron posting anti-Semitic tripe on an Irish GAA discussion board?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: StGallsGAA on May 13, 2018, 11:02:23 PM
Smile will be on the other side of Eurovision's face tomorrow when they discover every telephone vote cast for Israel reversed the charges

Really? A jews are tight with money joke?
Yes. A bit of light humour. Have you some point to make?

Yes. It was a joke in poor taste that reinforces old antisemitic tropes.

That sort of thing is ok around here though.

Shi#te, thats me in trouble then. Told a similar joke at work last week but it was a scottish person instead.
         Come to think of it, someone else was slagging off Cavan(sorry anyone from Cavan on here) people for being tight during another discussion. I shall be reporting him first thing tomorrow.
Has there been a genocide perpetrated against Scottish people or Cavan people, in which the portrayal of them as "money grabbers" was used to mobilise the widespread, systemic hatred and prejudice against them which enables genocide to happen?

The Halocaust was carried out by the Nazis but the Jews try to make everybody feel guilty for it. Anyone criticizing the Jews is accused of antisemitism to the point that they can carry out atrocities of their own with impunity.

As far as the money grabber title is concerned, it is well deserved

I’ve played Halo 5 and Halo Wars 2. Is this a new one in the series?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: sid waddell on May 13, 2018, 11:06:39 PM
It was a joke and pretty f**king harmless for a bunch of white Irish people on a GAA forum.

Go write a strongly worded letter to Sacha Baron Cohen or Seth McFarlane who've spent the best part of 15 years telling the same kind of jokes to the mass market.
I'm not familiar with Seth MacFarlane, but I would assume he is Jewish given his first name.

Sacha Baron Cohen can tell all the jokes about Jews that he likes, because he is one.

The thing is, his humour is designed to not only to laugh at his own historically oppressed ethnic group, which is he is entitled to do by virtue of being a member of that group, but to ridicule anti-semitism and anti-semites. And you clearly don't even get that.

Amy Schumer and Sarah Silverman can tell jokes about Jews and rape jokes, because they are both Jewish and women, and thus can use dark, confrontational humour to challenge and ridicule anti-semitism and misogynism.

A Muslim comedian gets to make jokes about Muslims. A disabled comedian gets to tell jokes about disabled people.

It's very clear you fail to understand the difference betwen that type of humour, and, say, Bernard Manning. Or Kevin Myers. Or Ron Atkinson.

Or this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoLPLsQbdt0



Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: sid waddell on May 13, 2018, 11:09:55 PM
Supposed anti-semitism isn't acceptable, but anti-catholic, anti-irish, anti-abortion seems very acceptable.

Lololol the absolute state of you trying to draw an equivalence there.

The old saying of a tight arse Scot or Yorkshireman is laughed at, but when it's a jew... Oh, you can't say that!  ::)

As stated above, I'm not very familiar with the stereotype of the "money grabbing Scotsman" being used to systematically persecute the Scots (up to and including genocide) over the centuries. Perhaps you could refresh my memory?

It's not just the stuff the Israeli state has done, it's the stereotypes like the tight Scotsman that can't even be spoken of. All attempts of reference to the Jewish people is lumped into the big anti-semitism net.

A tight Jew or a drunken Irishman. Why is one an acceptable stereotype and one not?
Are you pretending to be stupid or are you genuinely stupid?

I think I know the answer to this one, actually, having had the misfortune to read a range of your infantile posts on different subjects.
As someone who earlier on this thread alluded to the ass-shaking of the females in the Cyprus act, i’d be careful when you try to link threads. What about treating women as second class citizens? Ok to objectify them when singing on the stage? Nothing to do with singing, lyrics etc.
Go on. Quote my post, there. Explain exactly what you found objectionable.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: trileacman on May 14, 2018, 12:59:18 AM
It was a joke and pretty f**king harmless for a bunch of white Irish people on a GAA forum.

Go write a strongly worded letter to Sacha Baron Cohen or Seth McFarlane who've spent the best part of 15 years telling the same kind of jokes to the mass market.
I'm not familiar with Seth MacFarlane, but I would assume he is Jewish given his first name.

Sacha Baron Cohen can tell all the jokes about Jews that he likes, because he is one.

The thing is, his humour is designed to not only to laugh at his own historically oppressed ethnic group, which is he is entitled to do by virtue of being a member of that group, but to ridicule anti-semitism and anti-semites. And you clearly don't even get that.

Amy Schumer and Sarah Silverman can tell jokes about Jews and rape jokes, because they are both Jewish and women, and thus can use dark, confrontational humour to challenge and ridicule anti-semitism and misogynism.

A Muslim comedian gets to make jokes about Muslims. A disabled comedian gets to tell jokes about disabled people.

It's very clear you fail to understand the difference betwen that type of humour, and, say, Bernard Manning. Or Kevin Myers. Or Ron Atkinson.

Or this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoLPLsQbdt0

Is Frankie Boyle on the racist list? What about Tommy Tiernan?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Taylor on May 14, 2018, 09:04:47 AM
It was a joke and pretty f**king harmless for a bunch of white Irish people on a GAA forum.

Go write a strongly worded letter to Sacha Baron Cohen or Seth McFarlane who've spent the best part of 15 years telling the same kind of jokes to the mass market.
I'm not familiar with Seth MacFarlane, but I would assume he is Jewish given his first name.

Sacha Baron Cohen can tell all the jokes about Jews that he likes, because he is one.

The thing is, his humour is designed to not only to laugh at his own historically oppressed ethnic group, which is he is entitled to do by virtue of being a member of that group, but to ridicule anti-semitism and anti-semites. And you clearly don't even get that.

Amy Schumer and Sarah Silverman can tell jokes about Jews and rape jokes, because they are both Jewish and women, and thus can use dark, confrontational humour to challenge and ridicule anti-semitism and misogynism.

A Muslim comedian gets to make jokes about Muslims. A disabled comedian gets to tell jokes about disabled people.

It's very clear you fail to understand the difference betwen that type of humour, and, say, Bernard Manning. Or Kevin Myers. Or Ron Atkinson.

Or this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoLPLsQbdt0

Is Frankie Boyle on the racist list? What about Tommy Tiernan?

Yes and yes.
Anyone who says anything funny or witty about a person/country/race is on the list.

Jokes should all be like..........'Did you hear the joke about the bin........its rubbish' or maybe that is being offensive to bins?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 14, 2018, 09:11:53 AM
What about the Muslims?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Taylor on May 14, 2018, 09:18:14 AM
What about the Muslims?

Yeah - f**k them.
Stick them on the list as well
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 14, 2018, 09:24:51 AM
Snowdrops and daffodils
Butterflies and bees
Sailboats and fishermen
Things of the sea
Wishing-wells
Wedding bells
Early morning dew
All kinds of everything remind me of you
Seagulls and aeroplanes
Things of the sky
Winds that go howlin'
Breezes that sigh
City sights
Neon lights
Grey skies or blue
All kinds of everything remind me of you
Summertime
Wintertime
Spring and autumn too
Monday
Tuesday every day
I think of you.
Dances
Romances
Things of the night
Sunshine and holidays
Postcards to write
Budding trees
Autumn leaves
A snowflake or two
All kinds of everything remind me of you.
Summertime
Wintertime
Spring and autumn too
Seasons will never change
The way that I love you.
Dances
Romances
Things of the night
Sunshine and holidays
Postcards to write
Budding trees
Autumn leaves
A snowflake or two
All kinds of everything remind me of you.
All kinds of everything remind me of you.

Dana be trying to change the subject to Eurovision stuff ..... lads here are trying  to speed it up with their chat. Unfortunately we lost it this year but sure what’s another year eh? Some of the kids on here should be more rock and roll and not take life too seriously.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: tyrone girl on May 14, 2018, 09:33:40 AM
Thought the german song was the best. Rest were pure shite as usual.  ::)
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Asal Mor on May 14, 2018, 09:48:59 AM
It was a joke and pretty f**king harmless for a bunch of white Irish people on a GAA forum.

Go write a strongly worded letter to Sacha Baron Cohen or Seth McFarlane who've spent the best part of 15 years telling the same kind of jokes to the mass market.
I'm not familiar with Seth MacFarlane, but I would assume he is Jewish given his first name.

Sacha Baron Cohen can tell all the jokes about Jews that he likes, because he is one.

The thing is, his humour is designed to not only to laugh at his own historically oppressed ethnic group, which is he is entitled to do by virtue of being a member of that group, but to ridicule anti-semitism and anti-semites. And you clearly don't even get that.

Amy Schumer and Sarah Silverman can tell jokes about Jews and rape jokes, because they are both Jewish and women, and thus can use dark, confrontational humour to challenge and ridicule anti-semitism and misogynism.

A Muslim comedian gets to make jokes about Muslims. A disabled comedian gets to tell jokes about disabled people.

It's very clear you fail to understand the difference betwen that type of humour, and, say, Bernard Manning. Or Kevin Myers. Or Ron Atkinson.

Or this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoLPLsQbdt0
Sid, if you heard such a joke from a comedian you're not familiar with, would you need to check his religious and ethnical background so you could accurately weigh up whether the joke is funny or offensive, before deciding whether to laugh heartily or write a thesis about racism in comedy?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Taylor on May 14, 2018, 09:58:56 AM
Thought the german song was the best. Rest were pure shite as usual.  ::)

Was that the song about the Da who had passed away?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: tyrone girl on May 14, 2018, 10:02:11 AM
Yeah thats the one as far as i recall.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: tyrone girl on May 14, 2018, 10:03:46 AM
That israeli blade singing that winning song absolutely turned me no harm to her  :-[
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: sid waddell on May 14, 2018, 10:09:38 AM
It was a joke and pretty f**king harmless for a bunch of white Irish people on a GAA forum.

Go write a strongly worded letter to Sacha Baron Cohen or Seth McFarlane who've spent the best part of 15 years telling the same kind of jokes to the mass market.
I'm not familiar with Seth MacFarlane, but I would assume he is Jewish given his first name.

Sacha Baron Cohen can tell all the jokes about Jews that he likes, because he is one.

The thing is, his humour is designed to not only to laugh at his own historically oppressed ethnic group, which is he is entitled to do by virtue of being a member of that group, but to ridicule anti-semitism and anti-semites. And you clearly don't even get that.

Amy Schumer and Sarah Silverman can tell jokes about Jews and rape jokes, because they are both Jewish and women, and thus can use dark, confrontational humour to challenge and ridicule anti-semitism and misogynism.

A Muslim comedian gets to make jokes about Muslims. A disabled comedian gets to tell jokes about disabled people.

It's very clear you fail to understand the difference betwen that type of humour, and, say, Bernard Manning. Or Kevin Myers. Or Ron Atkinson.

Or this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoLPLsQbdt0

Is Frankie Boyle on the racist list? What about Tommy Tiernan?

Yes and yes.
Anyone who says anything funny or witty about a person/country/race is on the list.


Jokes should all be like..........'Did you hear the joke about the bin........its rubbish' or maybe that is being offensive to bins?
Do Frankie Boyle and Tommy Tiernan deliberately vilify all people of certain ethnic groups merely because they are members of a certain ethnic group, in the way some posters on this site vilify Jews merely because they are Jews?

Sometimes on this forum one has to do a double take to make sure it's not a BNP forum.

Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Taylor on May 14, 2018, 10:47:07 AM
It was a joke and pretty f**king harmless for a bunch of white Irish people on a GAA forum.

Go write a strongly worded letter to Sacha Baron Cohen or Seth McFarlane who've spent the best part of 15 years telling the same kind of jokes to the mass market.
I'm not familiar with Seth MacFarlane, but I would assume he is Jewish given his first name.

Sacha Baron Cohen can tell all the jokes about Jews that he likes, because he is one.

The thing is, his humour is designed to not only to laugh at his own historically oppressed ethnic group, which is he is entitled to do by virtue of being a member of that group, but to ridicule anti-semitism and anti-semites. And you clearly don't even get that.

Amy Schumer and Sarah Silverman can tell jokes about Jews and rape jokes, because they are both Jewish and women, and thus can use dark, confrontational humour to challenge and ridicule anti-semitism and misogynism.

A Muslim comedian gets to make jokes about Muslims. A disabled comedian gets to tell jokes about disabled people.

It's very clear you fail to understand the difference betwen that type of humour, and, say, Bernard Manning. Or Kevin Myers. Or Ron Atkinson.

Or this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoLPLsQbdt0

Is Frankie Boyle on the racist list? What about Tommy Tiernan?

Yes and yes.
Anyone who says anything funny or witty about a person/country/race is on the list.


Jokes should all be like..........'Did you hear the joke about the bin........its rubbish' or maybe that is being offensive to bins?
Do Frankie Boyle and Tommy Tiernan deliberately vilify all people of certain ethnic groups merely because they are members of a certain ethnic group, in the way some posters on this site vilify Jews merely because they are Jews?

Sometimes on this forum one has to do a double take to make sure it's not a BNP forum.

Hmmmm.....they tell jokes about certain ethnic groups in their routine absolutely.

Asking do they vilify them would be a matter of opinion
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: bennydorano on May 14, 2018, 11:55:34 AM
It was a joke and pretty f**king harmless for a bunch of white Irish people on a GAA forum.

Go write a strongly worded letter to Sacha Baron Cohen or Seth McFarlane who've spent the best part of 15 years telling the same kind of jokes to the mass market.
I'm not familiar with Seth MacFarlane, but I would assume he is Jewish given his first name.

Sacha Baron Cohen can tell all the jokes about Jews that he likes, because he is one.

The thing is, his humour is designed to not only to laugh at his own historically oppressed ethnic group, which is he is entitled to do by virtue of being a member of that group, but to ridicule anti-semitism and anti-semites. And you clearly don't even get that.

Amy Schumer and Sarah Silverman can tell jokes about Jews and rape jokes, because they are both Jewish and women, and thus can use dark, confrontational humour to challenge and ridicule anti-semitism and misogynism.

A Muslim comedian gets to make jokes about Muslims. A disabled comedian gets to tell jokes about disabled people.

It's very clear you fail to understand the difference betwen that type of humour, and, say, Bernard Manning. Or Kevin Myers. Or Ron Atkinson.

Or this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoLPLsQbdt0
Sid, if you heard such a joke from a comedian you're not familiar with, would you need to check his religious and ethnical background so you could accurately weigh up whether the joke is funny or offensive, before deciding whether to laugh heartily or write a thesis about racism in comedy?
Excellent point and shows up the absurdity of some of the positions here. Funny is funny end of - Dougal's original joke here that sprouted this bleeting match was just shit tho.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 14, 2018, 12:00:48 PM
Perhaps you might tell me who, if anyone, this joke would be offensive to:
Did you hear about the nun who fell asleep outside a synagogue ?
When she woke up next morning there was a heavy dew on her
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: sid waddell on May 14, 2018, 12:07:56 PM
It was a joke and pretty f**king harmless for a bunch of white Irish people on a GAA forum.

Go write a strongly worded letter to Sacha Baron Cohen or Seth McFarlane who've spent the best part of 15 years telling the same kind of jokes to the mass market.
I'm not familiar with Seth MacFarlane, but I would assume he is Jewish given his first name.

Sacha Baron Cohen can tell all the jokes about Jews that he likes, because he is one.

The thing is, his humour is designed to not only to laugh at his own historically oppressed ethnic group, which is he is entitled to do by virtue of being a member of that group, but to ridicule anti-semitism and anti-semites. And you clearly don't even get that.

Amy Schumer and Sarah Silverman can tell jokes about Jews and rape jokes, because they are both Jewish and women, and thus can use dark, confrontational humour to challenge and ridicule anti-semitism and misogynism.

A Muslim comedian gets to make jokes about Muslims. A disabled comedian gets to tell jokes about disabled people.

It's very clear you fail to understand the difference betwen that type of humour, and, say, Bernard Manning. Or Kevin Myers. Or Ron Atkinson.

Or this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoLPLsQbdt0

Is Frankie Boyle on the racist list? What about Tommy Tiernan?

Yes and yes.
Anyone who says anything funny or witty about a person/country/race is on the list.


Jokes should all be like..........'Did you hear the joke about the bin........its rubbish' or maybe that is being offensive to bins?
Do Frankie Boyle and Tommy Tiernan deliberately vilify all people of certain ethnic groups merely because they are members of a certain ethnic group, in the way some posters on this site vilify Jews merely because they are Jews?

Sometimes on this forum one has to do a double take to make sure it's not a BNP forum.

Hmmmm.....they tell jokes about certain ethnic groups in their routine absolutely.

Asking do they vilify them would be a matter of opinion
Read back over the last couple of pages of this thread and tell me whether there has been outright anti-semitism on it.

Remember now, several posters have defended what was said.

Think carefully.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 14, 2018, 12:14:49 PM
Just clarify what you define as being anti Semitic
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 14, 2018, 12:17:45 PM
I dislike Israelis because they steal Palestinians land and shoot dead unarmed protesters. Is that anti Semitic?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: sid waddell on May 14, 2018, 12:39:43 PM
Just clarify what you define as being anti Semitic
You started it off.

But your trope, anti-semitic as it was, is actually pretty mild compared to the Oliver J. Flanagan-esque rant that followed.

Smile will be on the other side of Eurovision's face tomorrow when they discover every telephone vote cast for Israel reversed the charges

Really? A jews are tight with money joke?
Yes. A bit of light humour. Have you some point to make?

Yes. It was a joke in poor taste that reinforces old antisemitic tropes.

That sort of thing is ok around here though.

Shi#te, thats me in trouble then. Told a similar joke at work last week but it was a scottish person instead.
         Come to think of it, someone else was slagging off Cavan(sorry anyone from Cavan on here) people for being tight during another discussion. I shall be reporting him first thing tomorrow.
Has there been a genocide perpetrated against Scottish people or Cavan people, in which the portrayal of them as "money grabbers" was used to mobilise the widespread, systemic hatred and prejudice against them which enables genocide to happen?

The Halocaust was carried out by the Nazis but the Jews try to make everybody feel guilty for it. Anyone criticizing the Jews is accused of antisemitism to the point that they can carry out atrocities of their own with impunity.

As far as the money grabber title is concerned, it is well deserved

What country did win?

A country that doesn't even exist, and is not even in Europe.

Sums up Eurovision really.

I dislike Israelis because they steal Palestinians land and shoot dead unarmed protesters. Is that anti Semitic?

If you object to the behaviour of the Israeli government and armed forces, as I do, that's clearly not anti-semitism.

If vilify Jews in general because of the actions of the Israeli government, that's anti-semitism.

If you vilify Jews in general as being "money grabbers", yes, that is very definitely anti-semitic - because it's the exact same type of ethnic vilification that led to the Holocaust.

It really is a shame to have to explain this stuff.


Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 14, 2018, 01:10:13 PM
The nun outside the synagogue. Anti Semitic?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: sid waddell on May 14, 2018, 01:22:33 PM
The nun outside the synagogue. Anti Semitic?
Not particularly, because it doesn't use a negative stereotype to generalise about Jews as a group.

Now, can you tell me whether you believe that negative stereotypes about Jews being money grabbers are anti-semitic?

Like yours, and like the even more vile post of Windmill Abu's?

Can you tell me whether such negative stereotypes were widely used to vilify Jews in 1930s Germany, thus preparing the ground for the Holocaust?

I'll make a leap and presume you have knowledge of what the Holocaust was.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: seafoid on May 14, 2018, 01:38:53 PM
The nun outside the synagogue. Anti Semitic?
Not particularly, because it doesn't use a negative stereotype to generalise about Jews as a group.

Now, can you tell me whether you believe that negative stereotypes about Jews being money grabbers are anti-semitic?

Like yours, and like the even more vile post of Windmill Abu's?

Can you tell me whether such negative stereotypes were widely used to vilify Jews in 1930s Germany, thus preparing the ground for the Holocaust?

I'll make a leap and presume you have knowledge of what the Holocaust was.
3 Jewish billionaires - Paul Singer, Sheldon Adelson and Bernard Marcus- funded the lobby that convinced Trump to pull out of the Iran deal.  They also heavily funded the lobby for the tax cuts that went 60% to the richest 1% of americans.

Is that antisemitic ?
It is very f**king dangerous.
When the US economy crashes along with the dollar, guess what will happen. The white elite will blame the Jews. And it will be easy. People in Indiana and Ohio will take the bait.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 14, 2018, 01:50:31 PM
The nun outside the synagogue. Anti Semitic?
Not particularly, because it doesn't use a negative stereotype to generalise about Jews as a group.

Now, can you tell me whether you believe that negative stereotypes about Jews being money grabbers are anti-semitic?

Like yours, and like the even more vile post of Windmill Abu's?

Can you tell me whether such negative stereotypes were widely used to vilify Jews in 1930s Germany, thus preparing the ground for the Holocaust?

I'll make a leap and presume you have knowledge of what the Holocaust was.
Don't patronise me. I suggest you look back over your history books and try to address your selective memory. Contrary to popular myth the Jews weren’t the only people killed in the holocaust. They were mainly killed because they were considered inferior.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 14, 2018, 01:52:38 PM
Did you hear about the 2 gay ghosts?
They put the willies up each other!
Offensive ?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Taylor on May 14, 2018, 01:56:48 PM
Did you hear about the 2 gay ghosts?
They put the willies up each other!
Offensive ?

Very.

Disgusting in fact.

LGBT community will be after you
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 14, 2018, 02:03:16 PM
Did you hear about the Irish formula 1 driver?
He made 10 pit stops , 1 for tyres, 1 for fuel and 8 to ask for directions
Offensive?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 14, 2018, 02:04:33 PM
Did you hear about the 2 gay ghosts?
They put the willies up each other!
Offensive ?

Very.

Disgusting in fact.

LGBT community will be after you
Will ghosts start to haunt me?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: trueblue1234 on May 14, 2018, 02:05:20 PM
It was a joke and pretty f**king harmless for a bunch of white Irish people on a GAA forum.

Go write a strongly worded letter to Sacha Baron Cohen or Seth McFarlane who've spent the best part of 15 years telling the same kind of jokes to the mass market.
I'm not familiar with Seth MacFarlane, but I would assume he is Jewish given his first name.

Sacha Baron Cohen can tell all the jokes about Jews that he likes, because he is one.

The thing is, his humour is designed to not only to laugh at his own historically oppressed ethnic group, which is he is entitled to do by virtue of being a member of that group, but to ridicule anti-semitism and anti-semites. And you clearly don't even get that.

Amy Schumer and Sarah Silverman can tell jokes about Jews and rape jokes, because they are both Jewish and women, and thus can use dark, confrontational humour to challenge and ridicule anti-semitism and misogynism.

A Muslim comedian gets to make jokes about Muslims. A disabled comedian gets to tell jokes about disabled people.

It's very clear you fail to understand the difference betwen that type of humour, and, say, Bernard Manning. Or Kevin Myers. Or Ron Atkinson.

Or this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoLPLsQbdt0
Sid, if you heard such a joke from a comedian you're not familiar with, would you need to check his religious and ethnical background so you could accurately weigh up whether the joke is funny or offensive, before deciding whether to laugh heartily or write a thesis about racism in comedy?
Excellent point and shows up the absurdity of some of the positions here. Funny is funny end of - Dougal's original joke here that sprouted this bleeting match was just shit tho.

Was there an answer to this at all?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: sid waddell on May 14, 2018, 02:08:43 PM
The nun outside the synagogue. Anti Semitic?
Not particularly, because it doesn't use a negative stereotype to generalise about Jews as a group.

Now, can you tell me whether you believe that negative stereotypes about Jews being money grabbers are anti-semitic?

Like yours, and like the even more vile post of Windmill Abu's?

Can you tell me whether such negative stereotypes were widely used to vilify Jews in 1930s Germany, thus preparing the ground for the Holocaust?

I'll make a leap and presume you have knowledge of what the Holocaust was.
Don't patronise me. I suggest you look back over your history books and try to address your selective memory. Contrary to popular myth the Jews weren’t the only people killed in the holocaust. They were mainly killed because they were considered inferior.
They were killed because they were constantly vilified using negative stereotypes. When you vilify an entire ethnic group, you can justify anything.

You and the other fuckwits on this thread see no problem perpetuating the negative ethnic stereotypes which have been a contributing factor to genocide in the past, of course.

It's just "bantz", or something.

It'd be a very interesting thought experiment to set up a thread to ridicule Northern Catholics using every negative stereotype imaginable. Just for the craic, like. And to see what the reaction is.



 

Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 14, 2018, 02:09:19 PM
Israel shouldn't be in the Eurovision. Neither should Australia.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: seafoid on May 14, 2018, 02:11:11 PM
Israel shouldn't be in the Eurovision. Neither should Australia.
Israel shouldn't be in UEFA either
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 14, 2018, 02:12:11 PM
Israel shouldn't be in the Eurovision. Neither should Australia.
Israel shouldn't be in UEFA either

Nor Kazakhstan imo.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 14, 2018, 02:15:29 PM
The nun outside the synagogue. Anti Semitic?
Not particularly, because it doesn't use a negative stereotype to generalise about Jews as a group.

Now, can you tell me whether you believe that negative stereotypes about Jews being money grabbers are anti-semitic?

Like yours, and like the even more vile post of Windmill Abu's?

Can you tell me whether such negative stereotypes were widely used to vilify Jews in 1930s Germany, thus preparing the ground for the Holocaust?

I'll make a leap and presume you have knowledge of what the Holocaust was.
Don't patronise me. I suggest you look back over your history books and try to address your selective memory. Contrary to popular myth the Jews weren’t the only people killed in the holocaust. They were mainly killed because they were considered inferior.
They were killed because they were constantly vilified using negative stereotypes. When you vilify an entire ethnic group, you can justify anything.

You and the other fuckwits on this thread see no problem perpetuating the negative ethnic stereotypes which have been a contributing factor to genocide in the past, of course.

It's just "bantz", or something.

It'd be a very interesting thought experiment to set up a thread to ridicule Northern Catholics using every negative stereotype imaginable. Just for the craic, like. And to see what the reaction is.
Well if any Jews are subject to genocide as a result of my quip I’ll remove it.
The NI Catholics joke thread is a great idea. Go ahead and set it up. Just one final point, when you resort to crude language to make an argument, you lose it.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: sid waddell on May 14, 2018, 02:17:22 PM
It was a joke and pretty f**king harmless for a bunch of white Irish people on a GAA forum.

Go write a strongly worded letter to Sacha Baron Cohen or Seth McFarlane who've spent the best part of 15 years telling the same kind of jokes to the mass market.
I'm not familiar with Seth MacFarlane, but I would assume he is Jewish given his first name.

Sacha Baron Cohen can tell all the jokes about Jews that he likes, because he is one.

The thing is, his humour is designed to not only to laugh at his own historically oppressed ethnic group, which is he is entitled to do by virtue of being a member of that group, but to ridicule anti-semitism and anti-semites. And you clearly don't even get that.

Amy Schumer and Sarah Silverman can tell jokes about Jews and rape jokes, because they are both Jewish and women, and thus can use dark, confrontational humour to challenge and ridicule anti-semitism and misogynism.

A Muslim comedian gets to make jokes about Muslims. A disabled comedian gets to tell jokes about disabled people.

It's very clear you fail to understand the difference betwen that type of humour, and, say, Bernard Manning. Or Kevin Myers. Or Ron Atkinson.

Or this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoLPLsQbdt0
Sid, if you heard such a joke from a comedian you're not familiar with, would you need to check his religious and ethnical background so you could accurately weigh up whether the joke is funny or offensive, before deciding whether to laugh heartily or write a thesis about racism in comedy?
Excellent point and shows up the absurdity of some of the positions here. Funny is funny end of - Dougal's original joke here that sprouted this bleeting match was just shit tho.

Was there an answer to this at all?
I'll wait for all the the six county Catholics on this thread to finish up their bomb-making activities for the day before answering.

Hey, just #bantz, remember!?

Like Barry McElduff!

Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 14, 2018, 02:23:34 PM
You’ve lost me with that last bit Chief
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: sid waddell on May 14, 2018, 02:29:36 PM
You’ve lost me with that last bit Chief
Being lost is no doubt a feeling you're well used to.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: trueblue1234 on May 14, 2018, 02:30:03 PM
It was a joke and pretty f**king harmless for a bunch of white Irish people on a GAA forum.

Go write a strongly worded letter to Sacha Baron Cohen or Seth McFarlane who've spent the best part of 15 years telling the same kind of jokes to the mass market.
I'm not familiar with Seth MacFarlane, but I would assume he is Jewish given his first name.

Sacha Baron Cohen can tell all the jokes about Jews that he likes, because he is one.

The thing is, his humour is designed to not only to laugh at his own historically oppressed ethnic group, which is he is entitled to do by virtue of being a member of that group, but to ridicule anti-semitism and anti-semites. And you clearly don't even get that.

Amy Schumer and Sarah Silverman can tell jokes about Jews and rape jokes, because they are both Jewish and women, and thus can use dark, confrontational humour to challenge and ridicule anti-semitism and misogynism.

A Muslim comedian gets to make jokes about Muslims. A disabled comedian gets to tell jokes about disabled people.

It's very clear you fail to understand the difference betwen that type of humour, and, say, Bernard Manning. Or Kevin Myers. Or Ron Atkinson.

Or this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoLPLsQbdt0
Sid, if you heard such a joke from a comedian you're not familiar with, would you need to check his religious and ethnical background so you could accurately weigh up whether the joke is funny or offensive, before deciding whether to laugh heartily or write a thesis about racism in comedy?
Excellent point and shows up the absurdity of some of the positions here. Funny is funny end of - Dougal's original joke here that sprouted this bleeting match was just shit tho.

Was there an answer to this at all?
I'll wait for all the the six county Catholics on this thread to finish up their bomb-making activities for the day before answering.

Hey, just #bantz, remember!?

Like Barry McElduff!

Seriously do I have to research jokes/ comedians before laughing at them? And lets be honest the Catholic Church rightfully get loads of abuse on here including stereotypical comments. In fact I don't think there's a grouping/ race that get as much.

Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: BennyCake on May 14, 2018, 02:44:13 PM
Israel shouldn't be in the Eurovision. Neither should Australia.
Israel shouldn't be in UEFA either

No, but I'm just hoping they qualify for Qatar 2022. Then the fun will start.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: trueblue1234 on May 14, 2018, 03:01:08 PM
Why is Dougal Maguire twaddling on about jokes when it's obvious to everyone that Windmill Abu's literally anti-semetic post wasn't a joke? Sometimes people on this site (most times) don't realise how absolutely reprehensible the behaviour they're trying to defend is.

Windmill's post was out of line. No problem with someone taking issue with it. Dougal's however was harmless.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 14, 2018, 03:01:22 PM
You’ve lost me with that last bit Chief
Being lost is no doubt a feeling you're well used to.
What do you mean by a cryptic message like that?
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Dougal Maguire on May 14, 2018, 03:10:40 PM
I’m cut to the bone. I thought my initial comment was a piece of spontaneous comedy genius if truth be told.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Fionntamhnach on May 14, 2018, 03:46:07 PM
Israel shouldn't be in the Eurovision. Neither should Australia.
Israel shouldn't be in UEFA either

Nor Kazakhstan imo.
For a country to be eligible to qualify for participation for the European Song Contest, it must be represented by a national broadcaster that is a full member of the European Broadcasting Union (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Broadcasting_Union) (EBU) - in Ireland's case that can be either RTÉ or TG4 - that lies either within the European Broadcasting Area of the ITU or be from a country that is a member of the Council of Europe (in the latter case, the only country outside the European Broadcast Area at present that could qualify for Council of Europe membership of is Kazakhstan). Australia is the obvious exception, being granted now an effective permanent wildcard entry.

The European Broadcast Area is not limited simply to continental Europe & associated islands. Indeed when the EBU was founded in 1950 its first members included broadcasters from Lebanon, Morocco & Tunisia. Indeed Morocco had an entry in the 1980 contest, the only time an African country has done so. A number of years back Syria was contemplating sending an entry but were told by the EBU that if their representative broadcaster refused to show or edited the Israeli performance on the live broadcast they would be disqualified, so no further progress was made.

In any case there is no formal international agreement that determines where Europe ends and Asia begins, but it's generally agreed that it includes the Turkish Straits, the Great Caucasus Watershed and roughly along the Ural River and Ural Mountains. On that basis quite a few countries straddle this line - the majority of Russia's landmass lies in Asia though the majority of its population live in Europe, only 3% of Turkey's land is in Europe and 4% of Kazakhstan's as well as a slither of both Georgia & Azerbaijan. Armenia lies entirely in Asia. Cyprus lies on the Anatolian Plate along with most of the Asia Minor that geographically it's part of Asia though culturally European while a few Greek islands off the Asian Minor coast like the Dodecanese could also count as geographically Asian. Then you have Spain, where the Canary Islands as well as the exclaves of Ceuta & Melilla are on the African continent, while the Portuguese island of Maderia (you know, the one Ronaldo was born on) lies much closer to Africa than Europe. Heck, if you want to start a real row Iceland straddles the European and American continental plates with its nearest landmass being Greenland but there is generally unanimous agreement that Iceland is a European country.

With regards to soccer, you have the transcontinental countries mentioned above that have all chosen to be part of UEFA rather than the AFC. You then also have Armenia and Cyprus (like above). Israel's participation is a result of history - not going to get into the deep politics of it all but they were effectively expelled from the AFC in 1974, became nomads for two decades before getting full UEFA membership in 1994. Another example is Australia leaving the OFC and joining the AFC for competitions at country and club levels. In the Americas you have Guyana, Suriname & French Guiana playing in CONCACAF competitions despite all three lying on the northern part of the South American landmass etc. etc. etc.

Generally when it comes down to geopolitics, things aren't always so simple. ;) What I would say though is that if FC Luch-Energiya of Valdivostok (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Luch-Energiya_Vladivostok) ever qualify for the Champions League or Europa League, it's going to be fun for any team drawn against them to travel to Luch's ground for the away leg! Mind you, FC SKA-Khabarovsk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_SKA-Khabarovsk) were in this seasons Russian Premier League but have been relegated.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Fionntamhnach on May 14, 2018, 04:10:07 PM
Israel shouldn't be in the Eurovision. Neither should Australia.
Israel shouldn't be in UEFA either

No, but I'm just hoping they qualify for Qatar 2022. Then the fun will start.
Before they even bribed won the right to host, Qatari officials said that if Israel qualified they would welcome the team into the country. In any case Qatar don't ban Israeli passport holders from entering the country outright compared to most Arab countries but they do require a visa application beforehand.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: seafoid on May 14, 2018, 04:18:41 PM
Israel shouldn't be in the Eurovision. Neither should Australia.
Israel shouldn't be in UEFA either

No, but I'm just hoping they qualify for Qatar 2022. Then the fun will start.
Before they even bribed won the right to host, Qatari officials said that if Israel qualified they would welcome the team into the country. In any case Qatar don't ban Israeli passport holders from entering the country outright compared to most Arab countries but they do require a visa application beforehand.
The problem with Israel is that it never integrated into the Middle East.
No country in the region needs an international aiport the way Israel does.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Taylor on May 14, 2018, 04:48:18 PM
The world has gone mad
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: BennyCake on May 14, 2018, 05:03:30 PM
Israel shouldn't be in the Eurovision. Neither should Australia.
Israel shouldn't be in UEFA either

No, but I'm just hoping they qualify for Qatar 2022. Then the fun will start.
Before they even bribed won the right to host, Qatari officials said that if Israel qualified they would welcome the team into the country. In any case Qatar don't ban Israeli passport holders from entering the country outright compared to most Arab countries but they do require a visa application beforehand.

Yes but then there's the Qatari people. That could be a different story.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Fionntamhnach on May 14, 2018, 08:35:29 PM
Yes but then there's the Qatari people. That could be a different story.
Only 12% of Qatar's resident population are Qatari citizens, they have the highest GDP per head of any country in the world notwithstanding that many South Asian working there in construction, hospitality & as servants along with many other foreigners are effectively indentured slaves. So nah.
In the current geopolitical climate, it might be trickier if Saudi Arabia, Egypt or the UAE qualify for the 2022 World Cup.
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: BennyCake on May 15, 2018, 05:10:06 PM
Yes but then there's the Qatari people. That could be a different story.
Only 12% of Qatar's resident population are Qatari citizens, they have the highest GDP per head of any country in the world notwithstanding that many South Asian working there in construction, hospitality & as servants along with many other foreigners are effectively indentured slaves. So nah.
In the current geopolitical climate, it might be trickier if Saudi Arabia, Egypt or the UAE qualify for the 2022 World Cup.

Trouble has started before elsewhere with less ;)
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Eamonnca1 on June 15, 2018, 10:12:06 PM
There's a poll going around on thejournal.ie asking if Ireland should boycott Eurovision in Israel. Initially, I thought yes, but if someone were to pen a good song about standing up to colonizing land-grabbing oppressors on the other hand...
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: balladmaker on June 17, 2018, 02:09:37 AM
Quote
There's a poll going around on thejournal.ie asking if Ireland should boycott Eurovision in Israel. Initially, I thought yes, but if someone were to pen a good song about standing up to colonizing land-grabbing oppressors on the other hand...

I know just the group for that
Title: Re: Eurovision final here we come!!
Post by: Targetman on June 17, 2018, 09:51:43 PM
The Wolfe Tones in Eurovision!!