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Title: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on April 25, 2018, 07:46:37 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0425/957207-frantic-new-format-makes-championship-an-injury-lottery/
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 12, 2018, 07:52:08 PM
Offaly giving a rousing show v Galway against the wind but a goal just before half time hurts. 2-9 to 1-7 to the All Ireland Champions at the break.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 12, 2018, 08:07:05 PM
I can't believe Galway scored 2 goals
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 12, 2018, 08:35:20 PM
They didn’t. They scored 5. 5-18 to 2-15. A decent Offaly performance for 60 minutes or so but Galway goals were hammer blows and came too easy. Offaly keeper made some good saves too. Still not a terrible start for Offaly and at least they had a go. Survive Kilkenny next week with morale intact and give Wexford and Dublin a right lash.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 12, 2018, 08:53:02 PM
They didn’t. They scored 5. 5-18 to 2-15. A decent Offaly performance for 60 minutes or so but Galway goals were hammer blows and came too easy. Offaly keeper made some good saves too. Still not a terrible start for Offaly and at least they had a go. Survive Kilkenny next week with morale intact and give Wexford and Dublin a right lash.
Last year it was 33 points to 1-11 so the goals are a big development. I think they only scored 2 in last year's championship.

Offaly should give the next few matches a good lash. Kevin Martin seems to be doing good work.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Avondhu star on May 12, 2018, 11:59:22 PM
Offaly are doing their bit at underage level and hopefully this will come through over the next few years.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on May 14, 2018, 10:39:27 AM
Dubs come up short against a misfiring KK.

Gilroy's charges gave it a right good rattle, but not scoring for large parts of the second half took its toll.
Thought the final Kilkenny goal was harsh on the dubs corner back as it looked like he was fouled just before being dispossessed.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: NAG1 on May 14, 2018, 12:24:22 PM
Dubs come up short against a misfiring KK.

Gilroy's charges gave it a right good rattle, but not scoring for large parts of the second half took its toll.
Thought the final Kilkenny goal was harsh on the dubs corner back as it looked like he was fouled just before being dispossessed.

He was fouled surely, refs seem to be very guarded when giving free against KK. Numerous times in the game he gave frees to KK which were debatable.

Any way as you say they ran out of steam and scoring power just at the wrong time. The three missed frees (unheard of at this level) really came back to bite them.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Premier Emperor on May 14, 2018, 01:28:15 PM
Brian Cody is leading a charmed life.
He just about got away with leaving out Colin Fennelly and Paul Murphy.

Joey Holden must be the worst player to ever tog out for the black and amber shites.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: NAG1 on May 14, 2018, 01:53:43 PM
Brian Cody is leading a charmed life.
He just about got away with leaving out Colin Fennelly and Paul Murphy.

Joey Holden must be the worst player to ever tog out for the black and amber shites.

He has seriously gone backwards since his introduction to the team, yesterday he stood out as a weak link, cant see him surviving much further into the summer if his form doesnt pick up.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: The Wedger on May 14, 2018, 07:42:31 PM
How many steps was Liam Rushe allowed to take for the Dublin goals?
The game is becoming a mess to referee.

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 14, 2018, 11:28:40 PM
How many steps was Liam Rushe allowed to take for the Dublin goals?
The game is becoming a mess to referee.
he took a lot
walter gets away with a lot of steps as well
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on May 15, 2018, 10:22:08 AM
How many steps was Liam Rushe allowed to take for the Dublin goals?
The game is becoming a mess to referee.

Initially it looked like the referee was going to call out the pulling and dragging and was awarding frees for it, but as the game wore on the ref reverted to type and then allowed the arm across "tackle" and the odd spurious hit.
Overcarrying is linked to pulling and dragging and both need refereed consistently to bring the tackle back to some semblance of normality.

Maybe the crowd moaning everytime he blew for a free had an affect on him, but Wille Barretts words the other day haven't made it onto the field of play as yet.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on May 15, 2018, 10:23:10 AM
Brian Cody is leading a charmed life.
He just about got away with leaving out Colin Fennelly and Paul Murphy.

Joey Holden must be the worst player to ever tog out for the black and amber shites.

He has seriously gone backwards since his introduction to the team, yesterday he stood out as a weak link, cant see him surviving much further into the summer if his form doesnt pick up.

Roll lifting when out on his own and missing it, don't see that much at intercounty level.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 15, 2018, 09:54:47 PM
How many steps was Liam Rushe allowed to take for the Dublin goals?
The game is becoming a mess to referee.

Initially it looked like the referee was going to call out the pulling and dragging and was awarding frees for it, but as the game wore on the ref reverted to type and then allowed the arm across "tackle" and the odd spurious hit.
Overcarrying is linked to pulling and dragging and both need refereed consistently to bring the tackle back to some semblance of normality.

Maybe the crowd moaning everytime he blew for a free had an affect on him, but Wille Barretts words the other day haven't made it onto the field of play as yet.
Good to see someone talking sense and not blinded by the usual ' manly game' sh1te talk from certain hurling folk
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on May 16, 2018, 10:24:49 AM
How many steps was Liam Rushe allowed to take for the Dublin goals?
The game is becoming a mess to referee.

Initially it looked like the referee was going to call out the pulling and dragging and was awarding frees for it, but as the game wore on the ref reverted to type and then allowed the arm across "tackle" and the odd spurious hit.
Overcarrying is linked to pulling and dragging and both need refereed consistently to bring the tackle back to some semblance of normality.

Maybe the crowd moaning everytime he blew for a free had an affect on him, but Wille Barretts words the other day haven't made it onto the field of play as yet.
Good to see someone talking sense and not blinded by the usual ' manly game' sh1te talk from certain hurling folk

Oh, I'm all for manly hurling, but putting the arm across someone's chest and neck isn't manly, it's cynical shit that needs outlawed.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 16, 2018, 10:43:23 AM
How many steps was Liam Rushe allowed to take for the Dublin goals?
The game is becoming a mess to referee.

Initially it looked like the referee was going to call out the pulling and dragging and was awarding frees for it, but as the game wore on the ref reverted to type and then allowed the arm across "tackle" and the odd spurious hit.
Overcarrying is linked to pulling and dragging and both need refereed consistently to bring the tackle back to some semblance of normality.

Maybe the crowd moaning everytime he blew for a free had an affect on him, but Wille Barretts words the other day haven't made it onto the field of play as yet.
Good to see someone talking sense and not blinded by the usual ' manly game' sh1te talk from certain hurling folk

Oh, I'm all for manly hurling, but putting the arm across someone's chest and neck isn't manly, it's cynical shit that needs outlawed.
I was reading about soccer in Belgium. The difference between the top and next division. The latter is less tactical and more physical.
Maybe the JMC is the same.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 16, 2018, 11:11:45 AM
Munster Championship Week 1 this Sunday. Looking forward to it, heading into the Gaelic Grounds for Tipp and Limerick. Weather is not going to be good it looks like, but it should be a good tussle. I'd actually expect Limerick to prevail in this one. The conditions will suit a high intensity game, and they have the hurlers to punish Tipperary.

Clare and Cork on as well this Sunday. Down in the park. Hard to know how this will go. I think Clare may have already peaked with this bunch a few years ago. Cork seem to be coming again, so I think they may have enough below in Cork.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 16, 2018, 11:36:13 AM
Tipp should just get over the line, regardless of the venue, though if Tipp go into that lull they have ten they lose that momentum and in those games its very hard to get it back or slow down the other team..

What Cork team will show up? Clare well capable of beating them but not sure they know their best team, whereas Cork come Championship are a different team.. two very difficult games to predict TBH

But good viewing for the fans, hopefully the weather isnt the factor in the games considering how good the weather is at the mniute, its dry up till Sunday but saying some light showers, the ground should be hard enough so may not impact badly
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on May 16, 2018, 11:43:39 AM
Munster Championship Week 1 this Sunday. Looking forward to it, heading into the Gaelic Grounds for Tipp and Limerick. Weather is not going to be good it looks like, but it should be a good tussle. I'd actually expect Limerick to prevail in this one. The conditions will suit a high intensity game, and they have the hurlers to punish Tipperary.

Clare and Cork on as well this Sunday. Down in the park. Hard to know how this will go. I think Clare may have already peaked with this bunch a few years ago. Cork seem to be coming again, so I think they may have enough below in Cork.

Tipp have serious firepower and a lot of the Limerick lads are new to this level and may take a game or two to find their feet. Forde and Callanan in the full forward line will need some watching, not to mention the McGraths as well. Still need a dog or two in there for the heavy lifting and Bonner Maher is a bit hit and miss ATM. Still think Tipp will do it by the odd point in 3. Limerick will still make the third or second spot theirs as you rightly point out that Clare seem to be reliant on a lot of the regulars still and they haven't really produced for a year or two.
I really don't rate Cork and think they've big holes in their defence which can be exploited like Waterford did in Croke Park last August.
If Conlan or Duggan are played close to the Cork goals, neither Cadogan or Cahalane will handle them in the air, problem is Shane O'Donnell is meant to be injured and he'd get goals feeding off either of those two lads and he's a big loss.
It's also hard to see Clare being as generous with the space afforded to the Cork forwards in the Munster final last year, really was crazy. Maybe they got caught up too much in counteracting Nash's puck outs that they left the back door open.

I think Clare will win on Sunday down in Cork but both will lose out to the other three at the final turn.

I just think Waterford, Limerick and Tipp have more at their disposal in terms of panels to see them through although Waterford doesn't seem to be a happy camp.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on May 16, 2018, 05:50:50 PM
Munster Championship Week 1 this Sunday. Looking forward to it, heading into the Gaelic Grounds for Tipp and Limerick. Weather is not going to be good it looks like, but it should be a good tussle. I'd actually expect Limerick to prevail in this one. The conditions will suit a high intensity game, and they have the hurlers to punish Tipperary.

Clare and Cork on as well this Sunday. Down in the park. Hard to know how this will go. I think Clare may have already peaked with this bunch a few years ago. Cork seem to be coming again, so I think they may have enough below in Cork.
Feck that, go to the Offaly game.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on May 17, 2018, 08:14:33 AM
Munster Championship Week 1 this Sunday. Looking forward to it, heading into the Gaelic Grounds for Tipp and Limerick. Weather is not going to be good it looks like, but it should be a good tussle. I'd actually expect Limerick to prevail in this one. The conditions will suit a high intensity game, and they have the hurlers to punish Tipperary.

Clare and Cork on as well this Sunday. Down in the park. Hard to know how this will go. I think Clare may have already peaked with this bunch a few years ago. Cork seem to be coming again, so I think they may have enough below in Cork.

Tipp have serious firepower and a lot of the Limerick lads are new to this level and may take a game or two to find their feet. Forde and Callanan in the full forward line will need some watching, not to mention the McGraths as well. Still need a dog or two in there for the heavy lifting and Bonner Maher is a bit hit and miss ATM. Still think Tipp will do it by the odd point in 3. Limerick will still make the third or second spot theirs as you rightly point out that Clare seem to be reliant on a lot of the regulars still and they haven't really produced for a year or two.
I really don't rate Cork and think they've big holes in their defence which can be exploited like Waterford did in Croke Park last August.
If Conlan or Duggan are played close to the Cork goals, neither Cadogan or Cahalane will handle them in the air, problem is Shane O'Donnell is meant to be injured and he'd get goals feeding off either of those two lads and he's a big loss.
It's also hard to see Clare being as generous with the space afforded to the Cork forwards in the Munster final last year, really was crazy. Maybe they got caught up too much in counteracting Nash's puck outs that they left the back door open.

I think Clare will win on Sunday down in Cork but both will lose out to the other three at the final turn.

I just think Waterford, Limerick and Tipp have more at their disposal in terms of panels to see them through although Waterford doesn't seem to be a happy camp.

Clare were in the game against Cork right to the end last year.  This was despite the shite hawking with puckouts etc and giving up a soft goal.  If they play their own game and keep it up for longer spells than they did in the League then they can win.   They played Wexford last week and apparently were very dynamic.

They are also very focused on home games.  Limerick have to come to Ennis in last game.  If Clare are still in the mix at that stage Limerick will be hard-put to beat them.

I think Clare v. Waterford might be a decider as to who ends up in bottom two.

That said it could be a group with surprising results and likely to go right to the wire.

/Jim.

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 17, 2018, 07:26:14 PM
Offaly have a few nice hurlers. I hope the next few weeks go well for them because I think hurling has missed them over the last few years. A couple of years of progress could really bring them on.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on May 18, 2018, 09:49:22 AM
Munster Championship Week 1 this Sunday. Looking forward to it, heading into the Gaelic Grounds for Tipp and Limerick. Weather is not going to be good it looks like, but it should be a good tussle. I'd actually expect Limerick to prevail in this one. The conditions will suit a high intensity game, and they have the hurlers to punish Tipperary.

Clare and Cork on as well this Sunday. Down in the park. Hard to know how this will go. I think Clare may have already peaked with this bunch a few years ago. Cork seem to be coming again, so I think they may have enough below in Cork.

Tipp have serious firepower and a lot of the Limerick lads are new to this level and may take a game or two to find their feet. Forde and Callanan in the full forward line will need some watching, not to mention the McGraths as well. Still need a dog or two in there for the heavy lifting and Bonner Maher is a bit hit and miss ATM. Still think Tipp will do it by the odd point in 3. Limerick will still make the third or second spot theirs as you rightly point out that Clare seem to be reliant on a lot of the regulars still and they haven't really produced for a year or two.
I really don't rate Cork and think they've big holes in their defence which can be exploited like Waterford did in Croke Park last August.
If Conlan or Duggan are played close to the Cork goals, neither Cadogan or Cahalane will handle them in the air, problem is Shane O'Donnell is meant to be injured and he'd get goals feeding off either of those two lads and he's a big loss.
It's also hard to see Clare being as generous with the space afforded to the Cork forwards in the Munster final last year, really was crazy. Maybe they got caught up too much in counteracting Nash's puck outs that they left the back door open.

I think Clare will win on Sunday down in Cork but both will lose out to the other three at the final turn.

I just think Waterford, Limerick and Tipp have more at their disposal in terms of panels to see them through although Waterford doesn't seem to be a happy camp.

Clare were in the game against Cork right to the end last year.  This was despite the shite hawking with puckouts etc and giving up a soft goal.  If they play their own game and keep it up for longer spells than they did in the League then they can win.   They played Wexford last week and apparently were very dynamic.

They are also very focused on home games.  Limerick have to come to Ennis in last game.  If Clare are still in the mix at that stage Limerick will be hard-put to beat them.

I think Clare v. Waterford might be a decider as to who ends up in bottom two.

That said it could be a group with surprising results and likely to go right to the wire.

/Jim.

I'd agree with that Jim, Clare lacked confidence to go head on at Cork or maybe Donal O'g, was trying to be too much of a smart arse with tactics;


http://www.gaa.ie/hurling/news/gerry-connor-ready-for-huge-year/ (http://www.gaa.ie/hurling/news/gerry-connor-ready-for-huge-year/)

""That’s what you are trying to replicate in training. Last year, we may have focused more on Cork than we did on ourselves." Clare's first provincial challenge this year is Cork in Pairc Ui Chaoimh."
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 18, 2018, 05:57:37 PM
This is a big year for Tipp. They were very close last year
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on May 18, 2018, 06:19:35 PM
So who will be the bottom two in Munster?  Waterford will find it difficult to be in the top three, with no home games.  I think the loser of the Cork/Clare game could also be fourth at best...at a push I'd say Clare and Waterford to miss out.

Dublin and Offaly would be the most likely bottom two in Leinster.

What say the experts on here?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 19, 2018, 12:26:33 AM
Armagh are plus twenty tomorrow v Derry, + 20!! Have I missed something?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Boycey on May 19, 2018, 10:45:41 PM
They covered the handicap by 1 beaten by 19.....
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 19, 2018, 10:49:35 PM
Must say that my initial anger has subsided regards the lack of football on tv. Looking forward to tomorrow. Tipp to win and a draw in the other one.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2018, 01:14:21 AM
They covered the handicap by 1 beaten by 19.....

I’m glad they did! I was at my sisters daughters communion today!back my previous winnings on Armagh +20! At half time Armagh were winning by 5 ! Money in the bank my arse! Weird game
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Minder on May 20, 2018, 09:06:35 AM
They covered the handicap by 1 beaten by 19.....

I’m glad they did! I was at my sisters daughters communion today!back my previous winnings on Armagh +20! At half time Armagh were winning by 5 ! Money in the bank my arse! Weird game

Yer niece  ;)
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2018, 10:09:30 AM
They covered the handicap by 1 beaten by 19.....

I’m glad they did! I was at my sisters daughters communion today!back my previous winnings on Armagh +20! At half time Armagh were winning by 5 ! Money in the bank my arse! Weird game

Yer niece  ;)

Couldn’t spell niece  ;D
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 20, 2018, 02:23:42 PM
So who will be the bottom two in Munster?  Waterford will find it difficult to be in the top three, with no home games.  I think the loser of the Cork/Clare game could also be fourth at best...at a push I'd say Clare and Waterford to miss out.

Dublin and Offaly would be the most likely bottom two in Leinster.

What say the experts on here?
Surely Waterford, beaten finalists last year, are better than Clare and Limerick
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 20, 2018, 02:37:54 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0520/964787-hurling-championship-updates/
Limerick 0-11 Tipperary 1-09

33 mins Four points from play for Mulcahy now after a brilliant catch by Kyle Hayes. Hickey penalised again at the other end though and Forde now has six frees to his name.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 20, 2018, 02:43:12 PM
John Fogarty‏ @JohnFogartyIrl · 3 min



HT: Limerick 0-12 Tipperary 1-10. Tipperary living so dangerously yet are ahead. Limerick giving away silly frees. #GAA

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: OgraAnDun on May 20, 2018, 03:08:45 PM
Bar the period of play immediately prior to the Tipp goal, this match has been fairly flat so far.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2018, 03:15:41 PM
The round robin thing possibly making it more of a cagey affair I feel
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 20, 2018, 03:36:14 PM
Tipp poor in the second half. They were lucky in the first half Limerick missed so many.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 20, 2018, 03:36:27 PM
Needed a late goal to seal the win however a deserved win for Limerick. 24 scores to 16.

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 20, 2018, 03:37:23 PM
Great win for Limerick
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on May 20, 2018, 03:41:27 PM
Yawn!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on May 20, 2018, 04:24:12 PM
Clare keep doing one handpass too many instead of taking the score. 2 down and should really be leading but just not very efficient with possession.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 20, 2018, 04:36:13 PM
How was that not a red?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: sans pessimism on May 20, 2018, 04:37:22 PM
How was that not a red?
was last week😠😠
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on May 20, 2018, 05:46:13 PM
Both clare and tipp disappointing.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2018, 05:50:15 PM
Tipps best players are getting on a bit! Clare are a strange team, so much about them but underperform
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on May 20, 2018, 05:59:29 PM
Yeah so much potential in that clare team but they never fulfill it. Must be very frustrating to support. The cork goalie really should have stopped that goal then it would have been worse.

Lehane's goal very sharp. Must be a nightmare to mark.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 20, 2018, 06:27:04 PM
Tipps best players are getting on a bit! Clare are a strange team, so much about them but underperform

Tipps best players should be in their prime, 27 or 28. It's a very poor start from them, no intensity at all. They'll need it next week.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on May 20, 2018, 06:28:33 PM
I was thinking that. Most of them have been playing since u21 days.

They were rubbish but to be fair limerick were good.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 20, 2018, 06:54:26 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0520/964813-mulcahy-tipp-have-a-lack-of-drive-a-lack-of-appetite/
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2018, 07:54:25 PM
Tipps best players are getting on a bit! Clare are a strange team, so much about them but underperform

Tipps best players should be in their prime, 27 or 28. It's a very poor start from them, no intensity at all. They'll need it next week.

Well they haven’t turned up much lately! They lacked pace intensity and desire!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 20, 2018, 08:42:22 PM
Tipps best players are getting on a bit! Clare are a strange team, so much about them but underperform

Tipps best players should be in their prime, 27 or 28. It's a very poor start from them, no intensity at all. They'll need it next week.

Well they haven’t turned up much lately! They lacked pace intensity and desire!

Yep.  They think they can turn it on and off. They should have learned by now.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 20, 2018, 09:04:50 PM
Tipps best players are getting on a bit! Clare are a strange team, so much about them but underperform

Tipps best players should be in their prime, 27 or 28. It's a very poor start from them, no intensity at all. They'll need it next week.

Well they haven’t turned up much lately! They lacked pace intensity and desire!

Yep.  They think they can turn it on and off. They should have learned by now.

Tipp hurling (club and county) are an enigma!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 20, 2018, 09:37:00 PM
Tipps best players are getting on a bit! Clare are a strange team, so much about them but underperform

Tipps best players should be in their prime, 27 or 28. It's a very poor start from them, no intensity at all. They'll need it next week.

Well they haven’t turned up much lately! They lacked pace intensity and desire!

Yep.  They think they can turn it on and off. They should have learned by now.
This Gerlock video from 2015 is about Tipp and the class they have versus what they have won.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpFu7X548p4

They did win again in 2016 but they couldn't back it up the following year. And this year got off to a bad start
Interestingly, Conor Moore's Gerlock videos have far more views than the real things get.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 20, 2018, 09:44:55 PM
OTB on KK/Offaly and Galway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym3vMl8UM2o
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 21, 2018, 08:41:12 PM
Tipp v Cork is on next weekend. Tipp surely have to win this one. It should be a humdinger
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on May 22, 2018, 11:22:30 AM
Tipp v Cork is on next weekend. Tipp surely have to win this one. It should be a humdinger

In Thurles I presume.

The misfiring of the Tipp forwards is something to behold and without Callanan in top form the rest struggle to weigh in with their fair share of scores. Forde didn't set the world alight and only fed off a hopeful long ball into the heart of the Limerick defence.
Cork look to have tightened up a bit in defence, but Clare let them off the hook with some poor shooting and wayward passing. Speed is still their main strength in the forwards and that may cause Tipp problems but I'd expect Tipp to deny them the space they need.

The pressure is on Michael Ryan and he'll fill the team with the regulars to ensure it happens.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 22, 2018, 11:49:18 AM
Tipp v Cork is on next weekend. Tipp surely have to win this one. It should be a humdinger

In Thurles I presume.

The misfiring of the Tipp forwards is something to behold and without Callanan in top form the rest struggle to weigh in with their fair share of scores. Forde didn't set the world alight and only fed off a hopeful long ball into the heart of the Limerick defence.
Cork look to have tightened up a bit in defence, but Clare let them off the hook with some poor shooting and wayward passing. Speed is still their main strength in the forwards and that may cause Tipp problems but I'd expect Tipp to deny them the space they need.

The pressure is on Michael Ryan and he'll fill the team with the regulars to ensure it happens.
Tipp players always seem to want to take on their marker physically (especially the half backs) instead of just playing the ball out of defence
slow ball out is killing their forwards
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 22, 2018, 12:09:36 PM
Tipp v Cork is on next weekend. Tipp surely have to win this one. It should be a humdinger

In Thurles I presume.

The misfiring of the Tipp forwards is something to behold and without Callanan in top form the rest struggle to weigh in with their fair share of scores. Forde didn't set the world alight and only fed off a hopeful long ball into the heart of the Limerick defence.
Cork look to have tightened up a bit in defence, but Clare let them off the hook with some poor shooting and wayward passing. Speed is still their main strength in the forwards and that may cause Tipp problems but I'd expect Tipp to deny them the space they need.

The pressure is on Michael Ryan and he'll fill the team with the regulars to ensure it happens.
Tipp players always seem to want to take on their marker physically (especially the half backs) instead of just playing the ball out of defence
slow ball out is killing their forwards

That's a good observation. Paudie Maher especially, but Ronan as well, love the physical contact. They look for it. They like nothing better than a big catch, a bulldozer out and then a delivery. When Paudie is in full flow it is a powerful lift to a team in fairness. He just bullies opponents.

However he's not going well at the moment, and it was noticeable how many Limerick half forwards (big men themselves) were able to stop that initial burst out. Then panic stations set in and the scrappy handpassing or turnovers happened.

Cork won't have the same physicality, but they will have something that causes Tipp awful problems. Speed. Paudie, Ronan and Barry Heffernan are not fast, and if the likes of the Cork forwards start streaming down the middle, Cork will tear them asunder.

Tipps forwards have to win them this game, and I don't necessarily mean on the scoreboard. I mean in the way they will have to work to disrupt delivery to the Cork forwards. It was painful watching how much time Limerick half backs had to survey the field and play dangerous balls into Gillane or Mulcahy. Tipps backs didn't have a chance. And if Limerick were a top team like Galway, that would have been a 10-15 point defeat.

Tipperary need to find fire and intensity and workrate to go with their undoubted skill. The forwards have to work hard when they don't have the ball, hooking and blocking and harrying. They have to be prepared to win the odd ruck, or the odd high ball. The backs and midfield need to start varying the delivery. In the first half against Limerick, they did play the corners, and John McGrath and Jason Forde won ball and won frees. In the second half, they reverted to long bombs which can cause panic right enough, but if you do it every time, it loses it's effectiveness.

A major rethink, and gut check, is needed. If either fail, Cork will beat them. I wasn't surprised Limerick and Cork won last weekend, I think I said it here, and next weekend it's hard to see past Cork, but I just think there might be a reaction from Tipp, and Cork with the 2 points might not be as desperate.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on May 22, 2018, 01:16:00 PM
Tipp v Cork is on next weekend. Tipp surely have to win this one. It should be a humdinger

In Thurles I presume.

The misfiring of the Tipp forwards is something to behold and without Callanan in top form the rest struggle to weigh in with their fair share of scores. Forde didn't set the world alight and only fed off a hopeful long ball into the heart of the Limerick defence.
Cork look to have tightened up a bit in defence, but Clare let them off the hook with some poor shooting and wayward passing. Speed is still their main strength in the forwards and that may cause Tipp problems but I'd expect Tipp to deny them the space they need.

The pressure is on Michael Ryan and he'll fill the team with the regulars to ensure it happens.
Tipp players always seem to want to take on their marker physically (especially the half backs) instead of just playing the ball out of defence
slow ball out is killing their forwards

That's a good observation. Paudie Maher especially, but Ronan as well, love the physical contact. They look for it. They like nothing better than a big catch, a bulldozer out and then a delivery. When Paudie is in full flow it is a powerful lift to a team in fairness. He just bullies opponents.

However he's not going well at the moment, and it was noticeable how many Limerick half forwards (big men themselves) were able to stop that initial burst out. Then panic stations set in and the scrappy handpassing or turnovers happened.

Cork won't have the same physicality, but they will have something that causes Tipp awful problems. Speed. Paudie, Ronan and Barry Heffernan are not fast, and if the likes of the Cork forwards start streaming down the middle, Cork will tear them asunder.

Tipps forwards have to win them this game, and I don't necessarily mean on the scoreboard. I mean in the way they will have to work to disrupt delivery to the Cork forwards. It was painful watching how much time Limerick half backs had to survey the field and play dangerous balls into Gillane or Mulcahy. Tipps backs didn't have a chance. And if Limerick were a top team like Galway, that would have been a 10-15 point defeat.

Tipperary need to find fire and intensity and workrate to go with their undoubted skill. The forwards have to work hard when they don't have the ball, hooking and blocking and harrying. They have to be prepared to win the odd ruck, or the odd high ball. The backs and midfield need to start varying the delivery. In the first half against Limerick, they did play the corners, and John McGrath and Jason Forde won ball and won frees. In the second half, they reverted to long bombs which can cause panic right enough, but if you do it every time, it loses it's effectiveness.

A major rethink, and gut check, is needed. If either fail, Cork will beat them. I wasn't surprised Limerick and Cork won last weekend, I think I said it here, and next weekend it's hard to see past Cork, but I just think there might be a reaction from Tipp, and Cork with the 2 points might not be as desperate.

You want your half backs bursting out of defence by going past their opponent and letting the ball in on a low trajectory to the forwards, but as you say unless Paudie sends his man flying after the initial hit he doesn't have the speed off the mark to round him and then you get the high clearance avoiding a block or a handpass to someone in similar traffic anyway.
The unseen work that a Bonner Maher does is missed when he's not there and even Brendan Maher does a power of work in the middle third without the ball that needs done by them all.
Callanan, Forde, Bubbles and the McGraths really need to produce the goods or Cork will run them into the ground.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on May 22, 2018, 01:17:48 PM
Oh, and Limerick were more reassured in defence once Mike Casey replaced Seamus Hickey, so there's strength in depth there.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 22, 2018, 01:20:53 PM
 An auld sidestep every now and then wouldn't go amiss.

re Hickey, yes, he's actually a liability for Limerick now, especially at full back.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2018, 01:39:16 PM
Break tackle but lay it off to the free man either beside you or low ball into a corner, problem being that the Tipp forwards are probably making the runs but by the time the ball comes in the defender is on top of him!

The options for the defenders were limited, some of that is due to Limerick, they seemed to have an extra man at times, hunting in pairs and sometimes there were 3 putting in the tackle..

Have Tipp anyone else to bring on? I'll not be backing them this Sunday (probably win now!)

How Hickey as you said AZ stayed on for as long as he did was a mystery, still a very good hurler, probably best on the halfback line

The Cork and Clare game seemed to be played at a higher tempo IMO, so it'll be a interesting game
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 22, 2018, 01:55:05 PM
Break tackle but lay it off to the free man either beside you or low ball into a corner, problem being that the Tipp forwards are probably making the runs but by the time the ball comes in the defender is on top of him!

The options for the defenders were limited, some of that is due to Limerick, they seemed to have an extra man at times, hunting in pairs and sometimes there were 3 putting in the tackle..

Have Tipp anyone else to bring on? I'll not be backing them this Sunday (probably win now!)

How Hickey as you said AZ stayed on for as long as he did was a mystery, still a very good hurler, probably best on the halfback line

The Cork and Clare game seemed to be played at a higher tempo IMO, so it'll be a interesting game

Tipp have a relatively deep panel on paper, but it's not worth a shite if lads aren't playing. I'm not sure if Cathal Barrett is available, but if he is, I'd probably go something like

              Hogan

Flynn      Kennedy      Barrett

Heffernan B. Maher    P. Maher

         R. Maher    Billy McCarthy

Dan McCormack Bonnar Maher  Noel McGrath

John McGrath    Jason Forde    Seamie Callanan


You'd have Michael Breen as an option for Midfield/Half forward, Bubbles O'Dwyer for the full forward line, Sean Curran for half forward, Niall O'Meara for full forward line, James Barry for the backs.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on May 22, 2018, 02:10:04 PM
Break tackle but lay it off to the free man either beside you or low ball into a corner, problem being that the Tipp forwards are probably making the runs but by the time the ball comes in the defender is on top of him!

The options for the defenders were limited, some of that is due to Limerick, they seemed to have an extra man at times, hunting in pairs and sometimes there were 3 putting in the tackle..

Have Tipp anyone else to bring on? I'll not be backing them this Sunday (probably win now!)

How Hickey as you said AZ stayed on for as long as he did was a mystery, still a very good hurler, probably best on the halfback line

The Cork and Clare game seemed to be played at a higher tempo IMO, so it'll be a interesting game

Tipp have a relatively deep panel on paper, but it's not worth a shite if lads aren't playing. I'm not sure if Cathal Barrett is available, but if he is, I'd probably go something like

              Hogan

Flynn      Kennedy      Barrett

Heffernan B. Maher    P. Maher

         R. Maher    Billy McCarthy

Dan McCormack Bonnar Maher  Noel McGrath

John McGrath    Jason Forde    Seamie Callanan


You'd have Michael Breen as an option for Midfield/Half forward, Bubbles O'Dwyer for the full forward line, Sean Curran for half forward, Niall O'Meara for full forward line, James Barry for the backs.
Callanan hardly has a full game in him yet though? Didn't do a whole lot when he came in on Sunday though the momentum was with Limerick by that stage.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 22, 2018, 02:19:50 PM
He may not, but Bubbles did SFA. You could have a Niall O'Meara in there as a lively ball winner instead. Not sure if Niall is back fit or not yet. He's had a horrible year with injuries.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: longballin on May 23, 2018, 10:16:18 AM
Can someone explain simply to workings of the championship format? If a provincial winner goes straight in to All Ireland semi final, where does runner-up go and who do they play? Why could they not have left it as it was the money grabbing hures have torn the ass out of the whole thing.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2018, 10:18:57 AM
Can someone explain simply to workings of the championship format? If a provincial winner goes straight in to All Ireland semi final, where does runner-up go and who do they play? Why could they not have left it as it was the money grabbing hures have torn the ass out of the whole thing.

You have answered your own question... money grabbing 'hures'

And club hurling loses out
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: longballin on May 23, 2018, 10:39:36 AM
It has turned the whole thing into a damp squib
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2018, 11:33:21 AM
It has turned the whole thing into a damp squib

I think the early games have been cagey, bursts of intensity but its not an all out knockout style of hurling, even though, before this format you had the backdoor, the Munster games were played at a higher level than what we have seen at the weekend, that will change come the buisness end, I hope
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: longballin on May 23, 2018, 12:19:11 PM
It has turned the whole thing into a damp squib

I think the early games have been cagey, bursts of intensity but its not an all out knockout style of hurling, even though, before this format you had the backdoor, the Munster games were played at a higher level than what we have seen at the weekend, that will change come the buisness end, I hope

Is a pity to see the Munster semi-finals go but that's it
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on May 23, 2018, 03:06:08 PM
It has turned the whole thing into a damp squib

I think the early games have been cagey, bursts of intensity but its not an all out knockout style of hurling, even though, before this format you had the backdoor, the Munster games were played at a higher level than what we have seen at the weekend, that will change come the buisness end, I hope

Is a pity to see the Munster semi-finals go but that's it

Not sure the Clare/Cork game was cagey at all, I thought they both give it their all but being the first round were a bit rusty. If Clare had of bagged one of those goal chances they mangled in the first half then the game would have been elevated a bit.

All is not lost yet as it'll become die dog or shíte the license if the likes of Tipp or Clare are two games to the bad already. If both win at the weekend then it becomes cagey again.

The third, fourth and fifth round games will be all or nothing for someone, but if someone is already through, do they give the panel a run out!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 24, 2018, 10:06:42 AM
Can someone explain simply to workings of the championship format? If a provincial winner goes straight in to All Ireland semi final, where does runner-up go and who do they play? Why could they not have left it as it was the money grabbing hures have torn the ass out of the whole thing.

You have answered your own question... money grabbing 'hures'

And club hurling loses out
The felt they had to respond to the football extravaganza that is the Super 8.

There will be 8 teams left after the leagues run off- 2 Joe MCDonagh, 3 Leinster and 3 Munster
The provincial champions go to the semi final
#2 in each province go to the quarter final
#3 in each province play one of the Joe McDonagh teams for a place in the qf.
I think it is a decent system
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Minder on May 24, 2018, 01:11:07 PM
Alan Cadogan probably out for the rest of the season
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: longballin on May 25, 2018, 02:38:51 PM
Can someone explain simply to workings of the championship format? If a provincial winner goes straight in to All Ireland semi final, where does runner-up go and who do they play? Why could they not have left it as it was the money grabbing hures have torn the ass out of the whole thing.

You have answered your own question... money grabbing 'hures'

And club hurling loses out
The felt they had to respond to the football extravaganza that is the Super 8.

There will be 8 teams left after the leagues run off- 2 Joe MCDonagh, 3 Leinster and 3 Munster
The provincial champions go to the semi final
#2 in each province go to the quarter final
#3 in each province play one of the Joe McDonagh teams for a place in the qf.
I think it is a decent system

drawn out for as long as possible with no edge until teams are at risk of elimination
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 25, 2018, 02:39:39 PM
There'll be fair edge in Thurles and Ennis this weekend.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on May 25, 2018, 05:33:27 PM
Whats the consensus here on Tipp, lose and their gone?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 25, 2018, 05:40:02 PM
Whats the consensus here on Tipp, lose and their gone?

If Clare are beaten by Waterford, you'd have 1 team on 4 points, 2 on 2 with one game played, and two on zero. Tipp wouldn't be 'gone' but they'd be in serious difficulty for Munster final place, and even third place would need them to win both their last two games.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 25, 2018, 05:50:44 PM
There could be two weekends of dead rubber games
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: clonadmad on May 25, 2018, 05:53:12 PM
There could be two weekends of dead rubber games

4 points won’t be enough for third place in Munster,that round robin will go right to the wire
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 27, 2018, 02:15:36 PM
12 mins: Tipperary 0-0 0-6 Cork
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: longballin on May 27, 2018, 02:22:35 PM
I know Cork-Tipp rivalry and all that but this this game really mean much. Can one of them be eliminated in Munster or what?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 27, 2018, 02:28:18 PM
24 mins: Tipperary 1-3 0-11 Cork
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 27, 2018, 02:31:02 PM
I know Cork-Tipp rivalry and all that but this this game really mean much. Can one of them be eliminated in Munster or what?
If Tipp lose this it will be hard to make top 3
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: longballin on May 27, 2018, 02:34:58 PM
I know Cork-Tipp rivalry and all that but this this game really mean much. Can one of them be eliminated in Munster or what?
If Tipp lose this it will be hard to make top 3

Ok thanks. Has really diluted the meaning of championship. Like Galway could beat Kilkenny today and in Leinster final and go on to lose to them in All Ireland final. I suppose is all for more revenue?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 27, 2018, 02:40:08 PM
35 mins: Tipperary 1-6 1-14 Cork
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on May 27, 2018, 03:01:56 PM
Tipp back in it
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 27, 2018, 03:40:05 PM
Good 2nd half from Tipp.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Syferus on May 27, 2018, 04:05:53 PM
These hurling matches feel so pointless. It’s only exasperated the problem hurling had already with no one really interested in proceedings until the AIQFs.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on May 27, 2018, 04:06:21 PM
Pitch not looking too good
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on May 27, 2018, 04:07:29 PM
Looks like the Ed Sheeran concert has made a mess of the Pearse stadium playing surface.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 27, 2018, 05:12:19 PM
Full-time

Clare 2-27 Waterford 2-18
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on May 27, 2018, 05:29:31 PM
Cats have been terrible.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 27, 2018, 05:31:47 PM
Cats have been terrible.
They have a lot of work to do on their backs
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on May 27, 2018, 05:34:54 PM
Cats have been terrible.
They have a lot of work to do on their backs
They were far from good in their forwards too. 13 scores is a poor showing.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 27, 2018, 05:37:57 PM
FT Galway 1-22 Kilkenny 2-11
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 27, 2018, 05:40:32 PM
Cats have been terrible.
They have a lot of work to do on their backs
They were far from good in their forwards too. 13 scores is a poor showing.
They went too often to the well with the glory team.
When Shefflin, Tommy Walsh and the other core members retired they had no replacements.
You can't build a championship team overnight.
They had to go to the back of the queue.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on May 27, 2018, 09:06:43 PM
We were poor enough for long periods today I thought, really only upped the performance during the final quarter against a very ordinary KK team that only got 3 scores from play all through.  The spine of the defense were back to last years form and my MOTM, Padraig Mannion, hurled a power of ball.  We hit a lot of aimless high ball into the Full Forward line early on too, none of which reaped any rewards.  Will need a more even performance in Wexford Park on Sat next to get any sort of a result down there.  Still, good to get a win in our first home Leinster championship match.  Pitch didn’t look great on the terrace side, must be damage from the Ed Sheeran concert two weeks ago.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Capt Pat on May 27, 2018, 09:26:35 PM
Even though they had a great comeback in the second half Tipp dropped a point today. They can still make it up in the next two games against Waterford at a neutral venue and against Clare in Thurles.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 27, 2018, 09:28:09 PM
Even though they had a great comeback in the second half Tipp dropped a point today. They can still make it up in the next two games against Waterford at a neutral venue and against Clare in Thurles.

That was some comeback. Atmosphere in Thurles was electric. Tipp answered a lot of questions about guts. They are still off their game, but that might just kick start them.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 08:28:37 AM
Even though they had a great comeback in the second half Tipp dropped a point today. They can still make it up in the next two games against Waterford at a neutral venue and against Clare in Thurles.

That was some comeback. Atmosphere in Thurles was electric. Tipp answered a lot of questions about guts. They are still off their game, but that might just kick start them.
It was impressive but why was the first half so bad?

The verdict from the Head of Sport at the Nenagh Guardian

"Tipperary given a lesson in the first half. They are a side devoid of confidence but not helped by poor coaching. They do not know what they are doing out there compared to Cork who are playing to a plan. 
Cork are making Tipp look old, too way too quick and energetic"

— Shane Brophy (@BrophShane) May 27, 2018
Something is not right.
In fairness to Tipp though  they do know how to tune up for August 
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on May 28, 2018, 08:38:37 AM
Even though they had a great comeback in the second half Tipp dropped a point today. They can still make it up in the next two games against Waterford at a neutral venue and against Clare in Thurles.

That was some comeback. Atmosphere in Thurles was electric. Tipp answered a lot of questions about guts. They are still off their game, but that might just kick start them.

Tipp are very reliant on individual brilliance in their forwards rather than any great game plan and TBH it was guts and what looked like a few positional changes with Brendan Maher dropping deeper to get on more ball and bail out their fullback line that made the difference.

In the same breath if the Cork back had raised the ball first time and cleared as he had been doing the whole game Tipp were beat.
The Cork forwards when given time and space will eat anyone alive. Still not great at winning dirty ball though.

Waterford with an injury list and now a suspension look to be out of it this year. The battle for 3rd spot is between Tipp and Clare IMO.

Galway had the measure of Kilkenny without really playing well. Conor Cooney has hit a bit of form and that is good.

Kilkenny are so reliant on TJ from placed balls and big Walter going on a run or two that you'd think they'll maybe get to a quarter-final spot but come unstuck thereafter.

Big game in Wexford next weekend which isn't really all or nothing, but may set both up for a meeting later on in the year.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2018, 09:02:53 AM
Even though they had a great comeback in the second half Tipp dropped a point today. They can still make it up in the next two games against Waterford at a neutral venue and against Clare in Thurles.

That was some comeback. Atmosphere in Thurles was electric. Tipp answered a lot of questions about guts. They are still off their game, but that might just kick start them.
It was impressive but why was the first half so bad?

The verdict from the Head of Sport at the Nenagh Guardian

"Tipperary given a lesson in the first half. They are a side devoid of confidence but not helped by poor coaching. They do not know what they are doing out there compared to Cork who are playing to a plan.
Cork are making Tipp look old, too way too quick and energetic"

— Shane Brophy (@BrophShane) May 27, 2018
Something is not right.
In fairness to Tipp though  they do know how to tune up for August

To be honest, what happened was twofold. They made obvious positional switches. Brendan Maher to wing back, Ronan Maher to centre field. Bonner Maher off, Bubbles on.  Then they told Paudie, Brendan and Joe Dwyer to sit a bit deeper, and to help this along, they pushed up slightly on the puckouts. I could not understand the first half. Sit off the puckouts, Cork go short, they work it short up the field and then hit ball into acres of space in front of a fast full forward line. It was kamikaze stuff from Tipp. Second half that did not happen.

The second element was the workrate went up 100%. I don't know if it was as apparent on the telly, but Seamus Callinan particularly, but the McGraths, and everyone else, started to work like dogs in the second half in the forwards. They chased, harried, blocked and hooked. That stopped the surgical precision going in, and as a by product got the forwards into the game.

The Tipp game plan is very simple in my opinion. Half Back as the platform, hard working forwards to enable the half backs win a lot of hurried clearances. Then half backs try to play ball into space or into the hand of some of the best forwards in the country.  Then mix in  the odd bomb to the edge of the square for Callinan to contest and get goals off breakdowns. The problems start happening when any of that misfires, or when the opposition's style creates a mismatch. Kilkenny's and Galway's physicality is problematic, because half forwards and half backs are under serious pressure to win ball, and that means you starve the likes of the McGraths and Bubbles and Callinan of good ball. But most of the time, their worst enemy is themselves.

Michael Breen is actually a bit of a loss at the moment, because his direct, hard running,style is something they are missing. Billy McCarthy looks to have some of that in his game, but he's still raw. I think that sort of energy around the middle of the field would help enormously to open up the other stuff.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 10:05:55 AM
Even though they had a great comeback in the second half Tipp dropped a point today. They can still make it up in the next two games against Waterford at a neutral venue and against Clare in Thurles.

That was some comeback. Atmosphere in Thurles was electric. Tipp answered a lot of questions about guts. They are still off their game, but that might just kick start them.
The round robin is very psychological. Wexford tore into Offaly to burn them off in the first 10 minutes because they didn't want any uncertainty around 3rd place  .

One other thing is that yesterday was Galway's first home match in the Leinster championship which they have been playing in since around 2010.

Tipp are very reliant on individual brilliance in their forwards rather than any great game plan and TBH it was guts and what looked like a few positional changes with Brendan Maher dropping deeper to get on more ball and bail out their fullback line that made the difference.

In the same breath if the Cork back had raised the ball first time and cleared as he had been doing the whole game Tipp were beat.
The Cork forwards when given time and space will eat anyone alive. Still not great at winning dirty ball though.

Waterford with an injury list and now a suspension look to be out of it this year. The battle for 3rd spot is between Tipp and Clare IMO.

Galway had the measure of Kilkenny without really playing well. Conor Cooney has hit a bit of form and that is good.

Kilkenny are so reliant on TJ from placed balls and big Walter going on a run or two that you'd think they'll maybe get to a quarter-final spot but come unstuck thereafter.

Big game in Wexford next weekend which isn't really all or nothing, but may set both up for a meeting later on in the year.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 12:29:28 PM
Galway -KK was very similar to the 2010 Leinster final with roles reversed

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/champions-showcase-strength-in-depth-1.617911
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 28, 2018, 02:37:26 PM
Tipp are living off reputation

too many big names
no midfield
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2018, 02:45:07 PM
Tipp are living off reputation

too many big names
no midfield

Harsh. Yesterday in the second half those players delivered, or most of them. Billy McCarthy and Ronan Maher would be a serviceable midfield. I think the problems are a lack of pace, and up until yesterday at 2.45pm, a lack of real intensity. If they can keep that intensity up, they will be a factor again. Don't forget only a Joe Canning wonder point beat them last year.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 28, 2018, 03:06:50 PM
Tipp are living off reputation

too many big names
no midfield

Harsh. Yesterday in the second half those players delivered, or most of them. Billy McCarthy and Ronan Maher would be a serviceable midfield. I think the problems are a lack of pace, and up until yesterday at 2.45pm, a lack of real intensity. If they can keep that intensity up, they will be a factor again. Don't forget only a Joe Canning wonder point beat them last year.
surely they have a few zippy young players they can bring in to freshen things up?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2018, 03:07:46 PM
There's a few good minors, but I think they are missing the hard running energy types.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 03:38:06 PM
Last year Tipp gave May a miss and built up towards August. Mayo did too. Tipps August power is maybe 3x what they showed against Cork last year. They can do all of the elite stuff from memory without thinking. KK can't.  Neither can Cork. 

This year the structure is different so they need to get in the zone before maybe they want to. They can still leverage the real hurling for later but they do need to bate Waterford and Clare.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on May 28, 2018, 04:33:13 PM
Last year Tipp gave May a miss and built up towards August. Mayo did too. Tipps August power is maybe 3x what they showed against Cork last year. They can do all of the elite stuff from memory without thinking. KK can't.  Neither can Cork. 

This year the structure is different so they need to get in the zone before maybe they want to. They can still leverage the real hurling for later but they do need to bate Waterford and Clare.


There certainly does seem to be a different learning curve required this year to last. Whether Tipp can ease off the gas till August is a huge gamble, but at the same time the likes of Cork may be looking good in May and June but run out of steam later on in the year.

They've Waterford in the Gaelic grounds and Clare in Semple so they may well end up getting a run out in August as yet.

You can maybe see Galway improve as the year goes on, Cork maybe, Limerick might garner experience with a youngish outfit and ditto Kilkenny as they're still reliant on the old guard and that won't be enough unless some other lads put the shoulder to the wheel.


Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Franko on May 28, 2018, 05:42:14 PM
What's the story with Bonner Maher?  He's looked a shadow of his former self recently.  With all the chat of Tipp' lacking intensity in the first half yesterday, you'd have thought he'd have been the ideal man for the job.  His engine used to be phenomenal.  But they really only showed any level of bite when he went off.

With regard to Kilkenny.  Henry spoke about it yesterday and I believe he just about nailed it.  They really lack physical power in defence.  Galway have a bunch of big, strong and mobile forwards (none of them are huge speedsters in the truest sense) and they absolutely bullied the cats defence yesterday.

And finally, what can you say about John Conlon.  An absolute joy to watch.  Workrate, stickwork, power and a burst of pace.  Imagine a forward line with 6 of him in it.  IMO he's the best in the country at the minute.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2018, 05:50:54 PM
What's the story with Bonner Maher?  He's looked a shadow of his former self recently.  With all the chat of Tipp' lacking intensity in the first half yesterday, you'd have thought he'd have been the ideal man for the job.  His engine used to be phenomenal.  But they really only showed any level of bite when he went off.

With regard to Kilkenny.  Henry spoke about it yesterday and I believe he just about nailed it.  They really lack physical power in defence.  Galway have a bunch of big, strong and mobile forwards (none of them are huge speedsters in the truest sense) and they absolutely bullied the cats defence yesterday.

And finally, what can you say about John Conlon.  An absolute joy to watch.  Workrate, stickwork, power and a burst of pace.  Imagine a forward line with 6 of him in it.  IMO he's the best in the country at the minute.

Bonner looks fucked. In fairness he's struggling with fitness for a while, and he looks like a lad that's still running on dirty diesel. He wouldn't be nearly the stickman that the other forwards are, so he has to bring intensity, ball winning and direct running. At the moment he's doing none of that. I lost count of the amount of balls he just threw the hurley up at as it landed near him, instead of trying to catch it. It worked for him once as he actually tapped it to himself for a lovely score, but all the rest of them saw him cleaned out.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 06:22:52 PM
Off the ball on Galway/KK and Cork/Tipp

https://youtu.be/pa3fGqMb1Eg
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 09:38:16 PM
Irish times from 2010

"Brian Cody knows so much and says so little that when it comes to communicating with the media it would be easier if he just ticked off the boxes beside various Codyisms as they applied to the situation at hand.
Savage player. Tick.
Savage team. Tick.
Great place to be. Tick.
Great game of hurling. Tick."
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 28, 2018, 09:56:34 PM
What's the story with Bonner Maher?  He's looked a shadow of his former self recently.  With all the chat of Tipp' lacking intensity in the first half yesterday, you'd have thought he'd have been the ideal man for the job.  His engine used to be phenomenal.  But they really only showed any level of bite when he went off.

With regard to Kilkenny.  Henry spoke about it yesterday and I believe he just about nailed it.  They really lack physical power in defence.  Galway have a bunch of big, strong and mobile forwards (none of them are huge speedsters in the truest sense) and they absolutely bullied the cats defence yesterday.

And finally, what can you say about John Conlon.  An absolute joy to watch.  Workrate, stickwork, power and a burst of pace.  Imagine a forward line with 6 of him in it.  IMO he's the best in the country at the minute.

Bonner looks fucked. In fairness he's struggling with fitness for a while, and he looks like a lad that's still running on dirty diesel. He wouldn't be nearly the stickman that the other forwards are, so he has to bring intensity, ball winning and direct running. At the moment he's doing none of that. I lost count of the amount of balls he just threw the hurley up at as it landed near him, instead of trying to catch it. It worked for him once as he actually tapped it to himself for a lovely score, but all the rest of them saw him cleaned out.
Bonner Maher always seems to be injured
I met him a few years ago at a fitness facility. I was there for a weightlifting workshop.
He wasn't able to perform an overhead squat using just an Olympic bar.
If that is the level of conditioning and mobility that Tipp players have it's no wonder so many are injured
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on May 29, 2018, 03:22:52 PM
What's the story with Bonner Maher?  He's looked a shadow of his former self recently.  With all the chat of Tipp' lacking intensity in the first half yesterday, you'd have thought he'd have been the ideal man for the job.  His engine used to be phenomenal.  But they really only showed any level of bite when he went off.

With regard to Kilkenny.  Henry spoke about it yesterday and I believe he just about nailed it.  They really lack physical power in defence.  Galway have a bunch of big, strong and mobile forwards (none of them are huge speedsters in the truest sense) and they absolutely bullied the cats defence yesterday.

And finally, what can you say about John Conlon.  An absolute joy to watch.  Workrate, stickwork, power and a burst of pace.  Imagine a forward line with 6 of him in it.  IMO he's the best in the country at the minute.

Every dog has his day and although I don't know Bonners age he doesn't come across as a natural athlete so every ounce of fitness is hard gained. His style of play is still required by Tipp and to be fair when he went off the rest of the forwards work rate went up considerably. I don't think there's a direct correlation but they need to do that as a group for 70 minutes every day they go out but that isn't always the case.
Maybe they're mistimed their peaking wrt fitness in the hope of being able to kick on in August.
Don't get two wins in the next two games and it won't matter.

Galways forwards will physically bully any team going now. They're a big unit and can hurl which gives them the slight edge on the likes of Wexford and Limerick who're also big outfits but not as seasoned yet.

As for John Conlon, I've always liked his style. Doesn't always take the right option and can hit some poor wides when most needed but he always stands up when things are tight and wants the ball.
Clare need him and some of the others to up the ante to get another win yet.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 30, 2018, 09:26:07 AM
What's the story with Bonner Maher?  He's looked a shadow of his former self recently.  With all the chat of Tipp' lacking intensity in the first half yesterday, you'd have thought he'd have been the ideal man for the job.  His engine used to be phenomenal.  But they really only showed any level of bite when he went off.

With regard to Kilkenny.  Henry spoke about it yesterday and I believe he just about nailed it.  They really lack physical power in defence.  Galway have a bunch of big, strong and mobile forwards (none of them are huge speedsters in the truest sense) and they absolutely bullied the cats defence yesterday.

And finally, what can you say about John Conlon.  An absolute joy to watch.  Workrate, stickwork, power and a burst of pace.  Imagine a forward line with 6 of him in it.  IMO he's the best in the country at the minute.

Every dog has his day and although I don't know Bonners age he doesn't come across as a natural athlete so every ounce of fitness is hard gained. His style of play is still required by Tipp and to be fair when he went off the rest of the forwards work rate went up considerably. I don't think there's a direct correlation but they need to do that as a group for 70 minutes every day they go out but that isn't always the case.
Maybe they're mistimed their peaking wrt fitness in the hope of being able to kick on in August.
Don't get two wins in the next two games and it won't matter.

Galways forwards will physically bully any team going now. They're a big unit and can hurl which gives them the slight edge on the likes of Wexford and Limerick who're also big outfits but not as seasoned yet.

As for John Conlon, I've always liked his style. Doesn't always take the right option and can hit some poor wides when most needed but he always stands up when things are tight and wants the ball.
Clare need him and some of the others to up the ante to get another win yet.

The margins in knock out championship are tight. A team can have a bad day and be dumped out. Giving teams 4 games in a league format changes the dynamics, as does the injury aspect
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Franko on June 01, 2018, 07:20:09 AM
What's the story with Bonner Maher?  He's looked a shadow of his former self recently.  With all the chat of Tipp' lacking intensity in the first half yesterday, you'd have thought he'd have been the ideal man for the job.  His engine used to be phenomenal.  But they really only showed any level of bite when he went off.

With regard to Kilkenny.  Henry spoke about it yesterday and I believe he just about nailed it.  They really lack physical power in defence.  Galway have a bunch of big, strong and mobile forwards (none of them are huge speedsters in the truest sense) and they absolutely bullied the cats defence yesterday.

And finally, what can you say about John Conlon.  An absolute joy to watch.  Workrate, stickwork, power and a burst of pace.  Imagine a forward line with 6 of him in it.  IMO he's the best in the country at the minute.

Every dog has his day and although I don't know Bonners age he doesn't come across as a natural athlete so every ounce of fitness is hard gained. His style of play is still required by Tipp and to be fair when he went off the rest of the forwards work rate went up considerably. I don't think there's a direct correlation but they need to do that as a group for 70 minutes every day they go out but that isn't always the case.
Maybe they're mistimed their peaking wrt fitness in the hope of being able to kick on in August.
Don't get two wins in the next two games and it won't matter.

Galways forwards will physically bully any team going now. They're a big unit and can hurl which gives them the slight edge on the likes of Wexford and Limerick who're also big outfits but not as seasoned yet.

As for John Conlon, I've always liked his style. Doesn't always take the right option and can hit some poor wides when most needed but he always stands up when things are tight and wants the ball.
Clare need him and some of the others to up the ante to get another win yet.

Disappointing to see Maher fading that bit.  Met him a few times and he seemed like a real sound, honest lad.  He also puts serious work into his game, so disappointing to see him not reap the rewards.  Agree with you lads though - he doesn't seem like a natural athlete or a natural hurler so I suppose if the level of work he puts in happens to drop off for any reason, his star is going to fade quite quickly.

Don't know about Galway forwards bullying anyone - they will obviously try, but Limerick, Wexford, Tipp, Cork, Waterford and even Dublin have plenty of big, powerful, men in their defence who will stand a fair bit of bullying.  KK, not so much I feel.

I reckon Conlon (to an extent) is carrying Clare at the minute, if the rest of the team stood up to his level, they'd be some force.  But agreed, his decision making is not always the best.

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 01, 2018, 09:37:04 AM
https://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/sport/316013/you-just-had-to-admire-galway-s-hurling-and-power-plays.html
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 02, 2018, 06:08:34 AM
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/tipperary-fans-have-to-get-off-their-backsides-former-premier-boss-sends-strong-message-to-supporters-36963940.html 

There was a lot of harsh words spoken by people at half-time writing off Tipperary and writing off the team in general," Hogan told Tipp FM. "I'm just so delighted as a Tipp person that the lads responded in style and put in an absolutely huge effort.

"Ger wasn't the only one; we got it between the two eyes above in the press box at the half-time chat. We got it and everybody said 'There is no way back. This is over. Tipp are gone.'

"But we were in this situation before against Cork in '91 as well and Mick Ryan was playing in that game, so he knows what it's like to come back against a quality Cork team."

 https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/we-wont-use-injuries-as-an-excuse-shanahan-36967133.html

Former Waterford All Star Maurice Shanahan says injuries won't be used as an excuse as the beaten All-Ireland finalists aim to oust Tipperary this weekend.

Defeat for either side would see their Munster Championship claims effectively ended at the Gaelic Grounds in Limerick on Sunday.

Waterford began their campaign with a 2-27 to 2-18 defeat at the hands of Clare at Cusack Park in Ennis last weekend.

Captain Kevin Moran got a straight red card but it was the injuries to the defensive duo Tadhg de Búrca and Barry Coughlan that could cost the team a place in the latter stages of the Championship.

"I am looking forward to get into this structure. If there was a two-week break in between games it would be great to give lads a chance to recover.

"It doesn't but it does give lads games. We want to play games. Every hurler in Ireland wants to play games and we have plenty of games now."
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: longballin on June 02, 2018, 08:19:10 AM
Can anyone explain significance of weekend games plz. Am genuinly struggling to follow the league format this year.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 02, 2018, 10:55:48 AM
Can anyone explain significance of weekend games plz. Am genuinly struggling to follow the league format this year.
Each team has 4 games. 3 teams qualify. 2 don't.
Waterford have played 1 lost 1
Tipp have played 2 lost 1 drawn 1
If Waterford lose they can get a max 4 points.
If Tipp lose they can get a max 3 points.

3 points is unlikely to be enough to qualify.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 02, 2018, 05:03:54 PM
Last week Wexford wanted to put smacht on Offaly in the first 10 minutes to burn them off
This week Galway may be doing the same to them.  Goal after 2 minutes.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: joemamas on June 02, 2018, 08:01:18 PM
Can anyone explain significance of weekend games plz. Am genuinly struggling to follow the league format this year.

+1

as a casual observer until Munster final or All-Ireland semifinals, I am also confused by it, and there appears to be a lot of mediocre games on. Is this a function of league format ?

Limerick v Cork just finished
I will put my comments on Mediocre games on hold for now🙄
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Orchard park on June 02, 2018, 09:42:14 PM
I don't know.

Rachel wyse's nipples had me distracted
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Asal Mor on June 02, 2018, 09:50:55 PM
The new system is superb. Needs some tweaking wrt rest weeks and relegation/promotion but it's everything you could want. That Cork v Limerick game was phenomenal entertainment.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on June 02, 2018, 10:14:21 PM
I don't know.

Rachel wyse's nipples had me distracted
Rule 1.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: longballin on June 03, 2018, 12:31:50 AM
The new system is superb. Needs some tweaking wrt rest weeks and relegation/promotion but it's everything you could want. That Cork v Limerick game was phenomenal entertainment.

Took at least ten games to get that game. Is far too many games.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: sid waddell on June 03, 2018, 01:06:02 AM
The new system is superb. Needs some tweaking wrt rest weeks and relegation/promotion but it's everything you could want. That Cork v Limerick game was phenomenal entertainment.

Took at least ten games to get that game. Is far too many games.
Of the five games in Munster so far, Clare v Waterford has been the only real disappointment.

Tipp v Cork and this evening's game were superb.

Dublin v Kilkenny and Wexford v Dublin were both thrillers in Leinster.

This format should have been introduced years ago.

Each game, particularly in Munster, actually feels like there's more at stake compared to the games played under the 2002-2017 format.  With regular hurling as the weeks go by, the games have been better too.

The GAA needed more of these games to capture public attention. It's just a pity the amount of televised games hasn't increased with the format change.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on June 03, 2018, 01:13:22 AM
The new system is superb. Needs some tweaking wrt rest weeks and relegation/promotion but it's everything you could want. That Cork v Limerick game was phenomenal entertainment.

Took at least ten games to get that game. Is far too many games.
Of the five games in Munster so far, Clare v Waterford has been the only real disappointment.

Tipp v Cork and this evening's game were superb.

Dublin v Kilkenny and Wexford v Dublin were both thrillers in Leinster.

This format should have been introduced years ago.

Each game, particularly in Munster, actually feels like there's more at stake compared to the games played under the 2002-2017 format.  With regular hurling as the weeks go by, the games have been better too.

The GAA needed more of these games to capture public attention. It's just a pity the amount of televised games hasn't increased with the format change.

Sorry to rain your Parade. Is there a sort of abuse of AMATEUR players making them go out week after week, earning big money for the GAA and Corporate Television companies? Or do you just not give a F***?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: longballin on June 03, 2018, 01:27:36 AM
The new system is superb. Needs some tweaking wrt rest weeks and relegation/promotion but it's everything you could want. That Cork v Limerick game was phenomenal entertainment.

Took at least ten games to get that game. Is far too many games.
Of the five games in Munster so far, Clare v Waterford has been the only real disappointment.

Tipp v Cork and this evening's game were superb.

Dublin v Kilkenny and Wexford v Dublin were both thrillers in Leinster.

This format should have been introduced years ago.

Each game, particularly in Munster, actually feels like there's more at stake compared to the games played under the 2002-2017 format.  With regular hurling as the weeks go by, the games have been better too.

The GAA needed more of these games to capture public attention. It's just a pity the amount of televised games hasn't increased with the format change.

It's pure greed and as Davy said the competition starts proper in July.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: sid waddell on June 03, 2018, 01:42:12 AM
The new system is superb. Needs some tweaking wrt rest weeks and relegation/promotion but it's everything you could want. That Cork v Limerick game was phenomenal entertainment.

Took at least ten games to get that game. Is far too many games.
Of the five games in Munster so far, Clare v Waterford has been the only real disappointment.

Tipp v Cork and this evening's game were superb.

Dublin v Kilkenny and Wexford v Dublin were both thrillers in Leinster.

This format should have been introduced years ago.

Each game, particularly in Munster, actually feels like there's more at stake compared to the games played under the 2002-2017 format.  With regular hurling as the weeks go by, the games have been better too.

The GAA needed more of these games to capture public attention. It's just a pity the amount of televised games hasn't increased with the format change.

Sorry to rain your Parade. Is there a sort of abuse of AMATEUR players making them go out week after week, earning big money for the GAA and Corporate Television companies? Or do you just not give a F***?
More games that players want to play and more games that people want to see amounts to..."abuse".  ;D

You must be some craic in the pub, not.  ;D

Amnesty International's contact details are on this link if you'd like to make a complaint.

https://www.amnesty.ie/who-we-are/contact-us/
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on June 03, 2018, 01:47:39 AM
The new system is superb. Needs some tweaking wrt rest weeks and relegation/promotion but it's everything you could want. That Cork v Limerick game was phenomenal entertainment.

Took at least ten games to get that game. Is far too many games.
Of the five games in Munster so far, Clare v Waterford has been the only real disappointment.

Tipp v Cork and this evening's game were superb.

Dublin v Kilkenny and Wexford v Dublin were both thrillers in Leinster.

This format should have been introduced years ago.

Each game, particularly in Munster, actually feels like there's more at stake compared to the games played under the 2002-2017 format.  With regular hurling as the weeks go by, the games have been better too.

The GAA needed more of these games to capture public attention. It's just a pity the amount of televised games hasn't increased with the format change.

Sorry to rain your Parade. Is there a sort of abuse of AMATEUR players making them go out week after week, earning big money for the GAA and Corporate Television companies? Or do you just not give a F***?
More games that players want to play and more games that people want to see amounts to..."abuse".  ;D

You must be some craic in the pub, not.  ;D

Amnesty International's contact details are on this link if you'd like to make a complaint.

https://www.amnesty.ie/who-we-are/contact-us/

Sadly, it is abuse (or taking advantage of) young men! You like everybody else want you bread buttered on both sides!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: sid waddell on June 03, 2018, 01:49:23 AM
The new system is superb. Needs some tweaking wrt rest weeks and relegation/promotion but it's everything you could want. That Cork v Limerick game was phenomenal entertainment.

Took at least ten games to get that game. Is far too many games.
Of the five games in Munster so far, Clare v Waterford has been the only real disappointment.

Tipp v Cork and this evening's game were superb.

Dublin v Kilkenny and Wexford v Dublin were both thrillers in Leinster.

This format should have been introduced years ago.

Each game, particularly in Munster, actually feels like there's more at stake compared to the games played under the 2002-2017 format.  With regular hurling as the weeks go by, the games have been better too.

The GAA needed more of these games to capture public attention. It's just a pity the amount of televised games hasn't increased with the format change.

It's pure greed and as Davy said the competition starts proper in July.
Had Wexford lost to Dublin, as they very nearly did, they'd likely have been out.

Munster has been ultra-competitive. There are five teams at a similar level and two will be out by June 17th.

Teams have to be at full pelt from the word go in this format. It's brilliant.

If you're worried about "greed", please bring forward a motion to your club to ban all live television coverage of GAA matches. I doubt it will get very much support.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: sid waddell on June 03, 2018, 01:52:43 AM
The new system is superb. Needs some tweaking wrt rest weeks and relegation/promotion but it's everything you could want. That Cork v Limerick game was phenomenal entertainment.

Took at least ten games to get that game. Is far too many games.
Of the five games in Munster so far, Clare v Waterford has been the only real disappointment.

Tipp v Cork and this evening's game were superb.

Dublin v Kilkenny and Wexford v Dublin were both thrillers in Leinster.

This format should have been introduced years ago.

Each game, particularly in Munster, actually feels like there's more at stake compared to the games played under the 2002-2017 format.  With regular hurling as the weeks go by, the games have been better too.

The GAA needed more of these games to capture public attention. It's just a pity the amount of televised games hasn't increased with the format change.

Sorry to rain your Parade. Is there a sort of abuse of AMATEUR players making them go out week after week, earning big money for the GAA and Corporate Television companies? Or do you just not give a F***?
More games that players want to play and more games that people want to see amounts to..."abuse".  ;D

You must be some craic in the pub, not.  ;D

Amnesty International's contact details are on this link if you'd like to make a complaint.

https://www.amnesty.ie/who-we-are/contact-us/

Sadly, it is abuse (or taking advantage of) young men! You like everybody else want you bread buttered on both sides!
If you truly believe that, why don't you boycott all GAA? The whole of the GAA and the whole of amateur sport is based on "taking advantage" of people.

Or maybe you think the players should be paid?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Asal Mor on June 03, 2018, 06:32:45 AM
The new system is superb. Needs some tweaking wrt rest weeks and relegation/promotion but it's everything you could want. That Cork v Limerick game was phenomenal entertainment.

Took at least ten games to get that game. Is far too many games.
Of the five games in Munster so far, Clare v Waterford has been the only real disappointment.

Tipp v Cork and this evening's game were superb.

Dublin v Kilkenny and Wexford v Dublin were both thrillers in Leinster.

This format should have been introduced years ago.

Each game, particularly in Munster, actually feels like there's more at stake compared to the games played under the 2002-2017 format.  With regular hurling as the weeks go by, the games have been better too.

The GAA needed more of these games to capture public attention. It's just a pity the amount of televised games hasn't increased with the format change.
Excellent post Sid

Players have been crying out for this for years. The week off needs tweaking as it's unfair that one team gets a break halfway through and others play 4 weeks in a row(maybe spread the games over 6 or 7 weeks instead of 5), but I heard Damien Hayes and Wooly saying this is what you'd dream of as a player and they'd give anything to be back playing in it.

I agree that the games mean more now than they did under the back door system which was shite.

Attendances are up, brilliant games of hurling on TV every week. Have the posters who are complaining even been watching the games or are you annoyed football fans? I don't understand how someone who enjoys watching high stakes hurling between the top teams every week could complain.

It's unfortunate that Dublin didn't get over the line in one of their 2 games to date as that would have opened things up more in Leinster, but it's been very competitive and the 2 Dublin games were very exciting. It's a great pity too that Waterford have been decimated by injuries and a suspension and lost so many great players but they'd have been screwed under the old system too. At least now, they can give their younger players the experience of 3 more games at the highest level.

Inter county players have a real season now instead of the old shite of playing once every 4 or 5 weeks and only playing maybe 2 meaningful games all summer. Anyway none of us are IC players so let's see what the players and GPA have to say about it later in the year.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 03, 2018, 09:08:24 AM
It’s piss poor for the clubs
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 03, 2018, 09:52:48 AM
The new system is superb. Needs some tweaking wrt rest weeks and relegation/promotion but it's everything you could want. That Cork v Limerick game was phenomenal entertainment.

Took at least ten games to get that game. Is far too many games.
Of the five games in Munster so far, Clare v Waterford has been the only real disappointment.

Tipp v Cork and this evening's game were superb.

Dublin v Kilkenny and Wexford v Dublin were both thrillers in Leinster.

This format should have been introduced years ago.

Each game, particularly in Munster, actually feels like there's more at stake compared to the games played under the 2002-2017 format.  With regular hurling as the weeks go by, the games have been better too.

The GAA needed more of these games to capture public attention. It's just a pity the amount of televised games hasn't increased with the format change.
Excellent post Sid

Players have been crying out for this for years. The week off needs tweaking as it's unfair that one team gets a break halfway through and others play 4 weeks in a row(maybe spread the games over 6 or 7 weeks instead of 5), but I heard Damien Hayes and Wooly saying this is what you'd dream of as a player and they'd give anything to be back playing in it.

I agree that the games mean more now than they did under the back door system which was shite.

Attendances are up, brilliant games of hurling on TV every week. Have the posters who are complaining even been watching the games or are you annoyed football fans? I don't understand how someone who enjoys watching high stakes hurling between the top teams every week could complain.

It's unfortunate that Dublin didn't get over the line in one of their 2 games to date as that would have opened things up more in Leinster, but it's been very competitive and the 2 Dublin games were very exciting. It's a great pity too that Waterford have been decimated by injuries and a suspension and lost so many great players but they'd have been screwed under the old system too. At least now, they can give their younger players the experience of 3 more games at the highest level.

Inter county players have a real season now instead of the old shite of playing once every 4 or 5 weeks and only playing maybe 2 meaningful games all summer. Anyway none of us are IC players so let's see what the players and GPA have to say about it later in the year.
Hurling will be more interesting this year.  There are at least 5 decent teams whereas in football there is only one..
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 03, 2018, 04:50:35 PM
Tipp on the ropes here again
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on June 03, 2018, 05:09:58 PM
Tipp on the ropes here again

The blahs are giving them a serious roasting
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on June 03, 2018, 05:24:03 PM
Wow!!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on June 03, 2018, 05:26:39 PM
That was an awful decision by umpire.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 03, 2018, 05:27:55 PM
Tipp getting every decision going
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on June 03, 2018, 05:35:09 PM
The umpires are headers.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on June 03, 2018, 05:35:59 PM
Those umpires not good. Jesus waterford are being shafted here.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 03, 2018, 05:37:38 PM
Disgraceful officiating
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on June 03, 2018, 05:39:32 PM
It wasn't like the goal was debatable. Rare to get shafted that badly in a major championship match.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: straightred on June 03, 2018, 05:40:03 PM
Disgraceful officiating

shocking stuff. A goal that wasnt, a point that might not have been, a possible glesson point not given and then how many steps did tipp take in the last play. Thats just the last 5 mins
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 03, 2018, 05:41:13 PM
outrageous decision in this day and age
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 03, 2018, 05:51:53 PM
Waterford were rode there. Cnut of an umpire was smirking after coming off.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Asal Mor on June 03, 2018, 05:52:51 PM
An officiating shambles but gripping, heroic stuff again. You'd have to feel sympathy for Waterford.

Tipp are taking on Meath '91 levels of near death escapism.

Very sporting interviews from Padraig O Mahony and Derek Mcgrath afterwards.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 03, 2018, 06:10:10 PM
It wasn't like the goal was debatable. Rare to get shafted that badly in a major championship match.
They have to keep Tipp in.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: sid waddell on June 03, 2018, 06:10:53 PM
That could be a sliding doors moment in the season.

Tipp have one game to go. If they beat Clare, they would ensure they finish ahead of them in a direct head to head scenario.

Three teams finishing on four points would complicate matters though, and that's very possible.

Tipp surely won't make a Munster final. But if they can stay alive and sneak third place in the group, they will be very hard beaten.

Today was as good as a defeat for Waterford. The officiating was Sludden-esque. But you know what, controversy like that makes the games sometimes.

The Munster hurling championship is glorious madness this year.



Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 03, 2018, 06:25:40 PM
That could be a sliding doors moment in the season.

Tipp have one game to go. If they beat Clare, they would ensure they finish ahead of them in a direct head to head scenario.

Three teams finishing on four points would complicate matters though, and that's very possible.

Tipp surely won't make a Munster final. But if they can stay alive and sneak third place in the group, they will be very hard beaten.

Today was as good as a defeat for Waterford. The officiating was Sludden-esque. But you know what, controversy like that makes the games sometimes.

The Munster hurling championship is glorious madness this year.
It''s a long way for Tipperary. Clare should beat them.
They pulled it out of the fire twice but something is wrong.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Boycey on June 03, 2018, 06:49:04 PM
Waterford were rode there. Cnut of an umpire was smirking after coming off.

More like a nervous smile knowing that given people’s reactions he’s most likely fcuked up.. Do u think he’s done it on purpose?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: highorlow on June 03, 2018, 07:37:09 PM
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: lenny on June 03, 2018, 08:13:45 PM
An officiating shambles but gripping, heroic stuff again. You'd have to feel sympathy for Waterford.

Tipp are taking on Meath '91 levels of near death escapism.

Very sporting interviews from Padraig O Mahony and Derek Mcgrath afterwards.

Terrible decisions against waterford. It made for an exciting end but in truth it was a poor enough game. Very average standard of hirling.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 03, 2018, 08:36:09 PM
The lack of knockout games is making the hurling more open and the defending is quite poor imho
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on June 03, 2018, 08:38:23 PM
Less sweepers which helps. Tipp have been very poor defending. Paudie maher looks a shadow of himself.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on June 03, 2018, 08:39:59 PM
Gas to see the three panelists on the Sunday game almost ignore the dodgy decisions. The Tipp panelist said that Tipp deserved that slice of luck for making a half arsed attempt at a come back. The Waterford panelist tried not to sound bitter. And Cyril just rolled into ''Isn't Hurling a great game'' jargon! Shure it would not have been a great game if it was not for the umpires gifting Tipp a goal. Isn't it great?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 03, 2018, 08:49:31 PM
Why don't hurlers remove their helmets for the National Anthem?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Capt Pat on June 03, 2018, 09:22:30 PM
Waterford deserved the win and would have got it if not for the umpire messing up. That result would have eliminated Tipp before their final game. That would have suited Clare who I support. Still another great weekend for hurling.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 03, 2018, 09:47:49 PM
Absolutely shocking officiating. It's a surprise the goalie didn't lash out and hit him.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Roashter on June 03, 2018, 10:48:02 PM
Terrible umpire decision and definitely cost them the match.
But they were still 11 points up with extra man -so they have to take some of the blame.
It's gonna be tough to pick themselves up to go at Limerick next week -but win that and they well and truly back in the mix
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: didlyi on June 03, 2018, 11:19:47 PM
I though waterfords hurling was a lot easier on the eye today. Should they abandon the weeper now?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on June 03, 2018, 11:21:58 PM
If Waterford didn't have bad luck they'd have no luck.


For once it looked like McGrath threw off the shackles and played more lads in the forwards and caused Tipp seriously problems.
Devine is a handful and in hindsight was missed last year.
Hope they make it out of Munster.
I think Tipp have messed up their prep as fitness seems a serious issue with not able to sustain effort over 70 minutes..
They're hangiing in all the same and Clare won't relish going to Semple with something to play for.

As for the comment about players being abused, if anything they're training less than in previous years in terms of intensity and it really should be about games rather than big gaps in between games which the players want anyway
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: CumminsCiderLarry on June 03, 2018, 11:49:03 PM
Serious fightback by the lads the last 2 weeks. Not good for the heart watching these games. It do or die against clare next sunday
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 04, 2018, 12:03:25 PM
Tipp haven't been able to put in a 70 minute shift in any of the last 3 matches . I wonder why.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 05, 2018, 07:44:06 AM
@ShaneSaint

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Jun 3

Tipp 2018 are the Mayo of 2017. Shambling and stumbling along, about to be killed off or about to take off.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on June 05, 2018, 09:10:14 AM
@ShaneSaint

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Jun 3

Tipp 2018 are the Mayo of 2017. Shambling and stumbling along, about to be killed off or about to take off.

A good summary. I think it's the former. The way they are playing I can't see them living with Clare. Galvin and Tony Kelly will have a field day and John Condon will be licking his lips at a wounded Paudie Maher, who is suffering from an injury.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 05, 2018, 09:54:35 AM
@ShaneSaint

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Jun 3

Tipp 2018 are the Mayo of 2017. Shambling and stumbling along, about to be killed off or about to take off.
I think Shane Stapleton is a really excellent pundit/analyst
A good summary. I think it's the former. The way they are playing I can't see them living with Clare. Galvin and Tony Kelly will have a field day and John Condon will be licking his lips at a wounded Paudie Maher, who is suffering from an injury.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on June 05, 2018, 10:14:10 AM
@ShaneSaint

·

Jun 3

Tipp 2018 are the Mayo of 2017. Shambling and stumbling along, about to be killed off or about to take off.
I think Shane Stapleton is a really excellent pundit/analyst
A good summary. I think it's the former. The way they are playing I can't see them living with Clare. Galvin and Tony Kelly will have a field day and John Condon will be licking his lips at a wounded Paudie Maher, who is suffering from an injury.

Is he not a Tipp man?

I'd not be buying any of that cure hoorism that Tipp are gone.

I think Clare will have their work cut out to beat Tipp in Semple even if Tipp are like the walking wounded.

Clare will need to score 3 or more goals as Tipp will get a few at the other end.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 05, 2018, 10:16:43 AM
@ShaneSaint

·

Jun 3

Tipp 2018 are the Mayo of 2017. Shambling and stumbling along, about to be killed off or about to take off.
I think Shane Stapleton is a really excellent pundit/analyst
A good summary. I think it's the former. The way they are playing I can't see them living with Clare. Galvin and Tony Kelly will have a field day and John Condon will be licking his lips at a wounded Paudie Maher, who is suffering from an injury.

Is he not a Tipp man?

I'd not be buying any of that cure hoorism that Tipp are gone.

I think Clare will have their work cut out to beat Tipp in Semple even if Tipp are like the walking wounded.

Clare will need to score 3 or more goals as the umpire Tipp will get a few at the other end.

fixed that
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on June 05, 2018, 11:14:13 AM
@ShaneSaint

·

Jun 3

Tipp 2018 are the Mayo of 2017. Shambling and stumbling along, about to be killed off or about to take off.
I think Shane Stapleton is a really excellent pundit/analyst
A good summary. I think it's the former. The way they are playing I can't see them living with Clare. Galvin and Tony Kelly will have a field day and John Condon will be licking his lips at a wounded Paudie Maher, who is suffering from an injury.

Is he not a Tipp man?

I'd not be buying any of that cure hoorism that Tipp are gone.

I think Clare will have their work cut out to beat Tipp in Semple even if Tipp are like the walking wounded.

Clare will need to score 3 or more goals as Tipp will get a few at the other end.

Shane Stapleton is a Tipp man. Borrisoleigh. His brother Paddy retired there a few years ago.

I don't think this is cute hoorism though. He says they will either be killed off, or take off. I suspect Clare will administer the coup de grace but if they don't and Tipp survive, they'll be dangerous again.

They just look completely off though. Themselves and Galway have been the best two teams around for the past few years, but there's a chasm between them at the moment.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: sid waddell on June 05, 2018, 11:21:46 AM
My hunch is that Tipp will somehow find a way to beat Clare, by hook or by crook.

I don't trust Clare, especially in Thurles. They've flattered to deceive so many times since 2013.



Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: NAG1 on June 05, 2018, 11:21:55 AM
Defintely something not quite right with Tipp at the minute, but to be fair to them the spirit in the camp must be decent enough otherwise they would not have dug out the two results that they have done.

Only thing is that if Callanan stays fit he will play himself into form and that would be dangerous for Clare.

Agree Clare are going to need goals, but always feel Clare are much better when they have that threat anyway. It will be an interesting one.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on June 05, 2018, 11:25:59 AM
And Clare have pace. Tipp hate pace. Even in the last few years, pace and power worries Tipp because while they have all the skills, they've never had an abundance of pace and power. They've had powerful players like Paudie Maher, but he's not pacy. They've had mobile lads like Brendan, but he's not powerful. And the lads they've tried to fill that with, Michael Breen, Dan McCormack, Billy McCarthy, have all had varying success rates. Bonner, when he was going well, was the powerful running, quick lad that they are missing badly.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 05, 2018, 12:04:05 PM
@ShaneSaint

·

Jun 3

Tipp 2018 are the Mayo of 2017. Shambling and stumbling along, about to be killed off or about to take off.
I think Shane Stapleton is a really excellent pundit/analyst
A good summary. I think it's the former. The way they are playing I can't see them living with Clare. Galvin and Tony Kelly will have a field day and John Condon will be licking his lips at a wounded Paudie Maher, who is suffering from an injury.

Is he not a Tipp man?

I'd not be buying any of that cure hoorism that Tipp are gone.

I think Clare will have their work cut out to beat Tipp in Semple even if Tipp are like the walking wounded.

Clare will need to score 3 or more goals as Tipp will get a few at the other end.

Shane Stapleton is a Tipp man. Borrisoleigh. His brother Paddy retired there a few years ago.

I don't think this is cute hoorism though. He says they will either be killed off, or take off. I suspect Clare will administer the coup de grace but if they don't and Tipp survive, they'll be dangerous again.

They just look completely off though. Themselves and Galway have been the best two teams around for the past few years, but there's a chasm between them at the moment.
Early June. If they can hang in there they would be up to championship speed by Late July 
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on June 05, 2018, 12:29:44 PM
And Clare have pace. Tipp hate pace. Even in the last few years, pace and power worries Tipp because while they have all the skills, they've never had an abundance of pace and power. They've had powerful players like Paudie Maher, but he's not pacy. They've had mobile lads like Brendan, but he's not powerful. And the lads they've tried to fill that with, Michael Breen, Dan McCormack, Billy McCarthy, have all had varying success rates. Bonner, when he was going well, was the powerful running, quick lad that they are missing badly.

Tipp's 4th week out in a row and its not as if they've had the comfort of winning a game pulling up either whilst Clare have 2 weeks to prepare.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 05, 2018, 12:38:11 PM
And Clare have pace. Tipp hate pace. Even in the last few years, pace and power worries Tipp because while they have all the skills, they've never had an abundance of pace and power. They've had powerful players like Paudie Maher, but he's not pacy. They've had mobile lads like Brendan, but he's not powerful. And the lads they've tried to fill that with, Michael Breen, Dan McCormack, Billy McCarthy, have all had varying success rates. Bonner, when he was going well, was the powerful running, quick lad that they are missing badly.

Tipp's 4th week out in a row and its not as if they've had the comfort of winning a game pulling up either whilst Clare have 2 weeks to prepare.
It's existential for Tipp. I expect a performance
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 05, 2018, 02:27:32 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0604/968146-the-skill-and-the-style-of-the-sideline-cut/
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 09, 2018, 09:07:22 AM
Looking forward to the Kilkenny v Wexford game today
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 09, 2018, 10:41:05 AM
Looking forward to the Kilkenny v Wexford game today
Wexford beat Kilkenny in Leinster last year
The winner gets the dubious prize of a Leinster final slot versus Galway
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on June 09, 2018, 11:46:33 AM
Looking forward to the Kilkenny v Wexford game today
I’m looking forward to the match before it.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 09, 2018, 06:14:29 PM
Cody to put manners on Davy!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 09, 2018, 11:40:38 PM
The head on Davy afterwards!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on June 10, 2018, 02:25:36 PM
Tipp trying something different today - starting well.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 10, 2018, 02:47:00 PM
Half-time: Tipperary 1-10 Clare 0-09

Tipperary started like a train and were eight points up at a stage, but in the final ten minutes before half-time Clare got their act together. The Banner outscored Tipp five-to-one in that period, including four points in-a-row, to get themselves back into this game.

 

14:42

Half-time: Limerick 2-14 Waterford 0-07 

An outstanding half from Limerick. Their support gives them a huge ovation as they trot off for half-time. Waterford have been overwhelmed and outplayed; it's going to take something very special to haul them back into this.

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2018, 03:29:12 PM
O'grady just said there was 2 in it??
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 10, 2018, 03:29:57 PM
What a cracking match
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on June 10, 2018, 03:38:17 PM
Tipp trying something different today - starting well.
Didn’t work.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 10, 2018, 03:41:05 PM
Tipp are out. #Jaysus
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 10, 2018, 03:41:58 PM
On  life support the last few games
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: sid waddell on June 10, 2018, 04:11:00 PM
Game turned completely in the space of 15 seconds on 67 minutes.

Jake Morris should have clinched it for Tipp but hit the post with a goal attempt. Clare counter attacked brilliantly and you could see there was a great goal chance as soon as they got it in midfield - Ian Galvin was like Salah running through against Roma. He finished in a very composed manner.

Clare still had to stand up in the last two and a half minutes of injury time and if they hadn't, this team might as well have folded up its tent and gone home forever, they've flattered to deceive so many times since 2013. Finally they stood up when they needed to.

Subs made a big difference for Clare. That's the best Podge Collins has played for a long time.

It seems strange that after such excitement, the three qualifiers are now known with a game to spare.

But Clare v Limerick in Ennis next week for a place in the Munster final will still be wonderful. Both teams will be sky high on confidence after today.

Cork shouldn't have much trouble putting away a demoralised Waterford to clinch their place in the final.



Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: shark on June 10, 2018, 04:21:10 PM
Game turned completely in the space of 15 seconds on 67 minutes.

Jake Morris should have clinched it for Tipp but hit the post with a goal attempt. Clare counter attacked brilliantly and you could see there was a great goal chance as soon as they got it in midfield - Ian Galvin was like Salah running through against Roma. He finished in a very composed manner.

Clare still had to stand up in the last two and a half minutes of injury time and if they hadn't, this team might as well have folded up its tent and gone home forever, they've flattered to deceive so many times since 2013. Finally they stood up when they needed to.

Subs made a big difference for Clare. That's the best Podge Collins has played for a long time.

It seems strange that after such excitement, the three qualifiers are now known with a game to spare.

But Clare v Limerick in Ennis next week for a place in the Munster final will still be wonderful. Both teams will be sky high on confidence after today.

Cork shouldn't have much trouble putting away a demoralised Waterford to clinch their place in the final.

Yeah there is still so much to play for. Clare want to win Munster, they haven’t won it in 20 years. It should be a great game.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 10, 2018, 04:21:27 PM
Last year Waterford made the final and Tipp were beaten by a point in the semi. This year neither will be gracing Croker.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Capt Pat on June 10, 2018, 09:28:24 PM
Clare won with some of their best players misfiring. Players like Tony Kelly and the two normally productive corner forwards McGrath and O'Donnell were frozen out of the game for long periods.

Tipp started well but finished poorly in contrast to the two drawn games. They may have suffered from playing four sundays in a row.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2018, 10:06:26 PM
Clare's handling was awful at times and some wayward shooting. To be fair to o'donnell he did some work even for not really threatening the scoreboard.

That duggan point at the end was phenomenal.

Hard to know what went so wrong for tipp.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 10, 2018, 10:27:27 PM
Clare's handling was awful at times and some wayward shooting. To be fair to o'donnell he did some work even for not really threatening the scoreboard.

That duggan point at the end was phenomenal.

Hard to know what went so wrong for tipp.
They were 8 points up at one stage but let Clare back into the game.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: shark on June 10, 2018, 10:41:43 PM
Clare's handling was awful at times and some wayward shooting. To be fair to o'donnell he did some work even for not really threatening the scoreboard.

That duggan point at the end was phenomenal.

Hard to know what went so wrong for tipp.

They score that goal instead of hitting the post and they win by 6-8 points. Tiniest of margins. I do think their work rate dropped though. It was savage in the first 25 mins but not thereafter. So many of Clare’s players played poorly. Amazing they won.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 10, 2018, 11:16:20 PM
Too many of the Tipp players seem to be carrying too much muscle or puppy fat and are too eager to bounce in lads
Just my observation
Its all about speed and high intensity now, avoiding the tackles which wear you out e.g. the two side steps for the Clare goal. You couldn't see Tipp having the footwork to open up that defence
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Horse Box on June 10, 2018, 11:59:29 PM
Some handy Footballers on that Tipp Panel , wonder if Kearns would consider calling them up to the Football Squad ? Seamus Kennedy would be a starter any day if he joined up !
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 11, 2018, 07:44:22 AM
Clare's handling was awful at times and some wayward shooting. To be fair to o'donnell he did some work even for not really threatening the scoreboard.

That duggan point at the end was phenomenal.

Hard to know what went so wrong for tipp.

They score that goal instead of hitting the post and they win by 6-8 points. Tiniest of margins. I do think their work rate dropped though. It was savage in the first 25 mins but not thereafter. So many of Clare’s players played poorly. Amazing they won.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGUnS5QmFOw
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 11, 2018, 10:00:26 AM
Clare's handling was awful at times and some wayward shooting. To be fair to o'donnell he did some work even for not really threatening the scoreboard.

That duggan point at the end was phenomenal.

Hard to know what went so wrong for tipp.
They were 8 points up at one stage but let Clare back into the game.

Tipp always go missing for a period in the game, and getting back the momentum is very difficult, which proved to be yesterday..

I've stopped backing Tipp as they are so erratic that you'd have no confidence in them at all, strange team, can beat the best but lose so many winnable games in winnable positions!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 11, 2018, 10:21:41 AM
Clare's handling was awful at times and some wayward shooting. To be fair to o'donnell he did some work even for not really threatening the scoreboard.

That duggan point at the end was phenomenal.

Hard to know what went so wrong for tipp.
They were 8 points up at one stage but let Clare back into the game.

Tipp always go missing for a period in the game, and getting back the momentum is very difficult, which proved to be yesterday..

I've stopped backing Tipp as they are so erratic that you'd have no confidence in them at all, strange team, can beat the best but lose so many winnable games in winnable positions!

+1 re Duggans last point. Tipp haven't 70 mins in them.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 11, 2018, 10:44:00 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/nicky-english-tipperary-s-defence-is-still-their-achilles-heel-1.3526027?mode=amp
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on June 16, 2018, 08:00:47 AM
Late to the party here; another championship and another structure to the hurling competition which takes me by surprise. Ever since they got stopped the straight knock out format I’ve never been sure what way it goes.

So this year the provincial finals are the top two teams, right?

So what happens to the winners and losers of the provincial finals? Into the semis?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: burdizzo on June 16, 2018, 08:28:37 AM
Losers into a quarter.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 16, 2018, 08:51:35 AM
Losers into a quarter.
technically pre semi finals
there aren't 4 quarter finals
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 16, 2018, 01:40:35 PM
Late to the party here; another championship and another structure to the hurling competition which takes me by surprise. Ever since they got stopped the straight knock out format I’ve never been sure what way it goes.

So this year the provincial finals are the top two teams, right?

So what happens to the winners and losers of the provincial finals? Into the semis?
Winners into semi final as was the case
Losers into quarter final as was the case
Third place in Munster and Leinster groups into preliminary quarter final against the McDonagh Cup finalists (i.e. Wexford or Munster 3rd v Westmeath or Carlow).
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Capt Pat on June 17, 2018, 07:46:33 PM
Clare had a convincing win against Limerick today in Ennis by 26 points to 15.  Clare are building up good momentum with three wins on the bounce.

Clare will face Cork in the Munster final. Cork struggled to get by the already eliminated Waterford on a score of 1-23 to 1-20 in Thurles.

Cork and Clare look well matched for the final in what could be another Munster Championship classic. I fancy Clare to edge it.

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on June 17, 2018, 08:47:53 PM
Clare's win against tipp seems to have spurred them on. I think they were the team with the break at the right time which helped them too mind.

Duggan a serious scorer and kelly is clinical with half a chance. Limerick probably not finished yet either.

Galway's to lose at the minute though i think there may be a few twists yet.

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 17, 2018, 09:06:49 PM
The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 18, 2018, 07:58:42 AM
The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.
Definitely
And the injury list the Deise had.
Derek should have used a dummy team all through the league
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 18, 2018, 08:56:07 AM
The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.
Definitely
And the injury list the Deise had.
Derek should have used a dummy team all through the league
I think there is an all Ireland in that team. Maybe a new manager can get it out of them.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: clonadmad on June 18, 2018, 09:49:28 AM
The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.

How would it?.

Even if they had won,they still wouldn’t have made 3rd place
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: clonadmad on June 18, 2018, 09:52:08 AM
The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.
Definitely
And the injury list the Deise had.
Derek should have used a dummy team all through the league

Played a dummy team all through the league?

What difference would that have made when the injuries struck during the actual Munster championship itself,particularly during the Clare game.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 18, 2018, 10:05:00 AM
The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.

How would it?.

Even if they had won,they still wouldn’t have made 3rd place
They would have had 3 points going into yesterday and an incentive to win
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on June 18, 2018, 10:24:01 AM
The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.
Definitely
And the injury list the Deise had.
Derek should have used a dummy team all through the league
I think there is an all Ireland in that team. Maybe a new manager can get it out of them.

Waterford have an attack second to none if they were let at it so if anyone is going to take over from McGrath can keep the organisational control that McGrath had (Waterford hurlers can be a real wild bunch historically) but get more numbers up the field they'll not fear too many.

Limerick did something yesterday which Duignan correctly pointed out handed the game to Clare.
Coming out for the second half with a wind at their backs only 4 points down they take off Graeme Mulcahy from corner forward and bring on Richie McCarty to fullback to cope with John Conlon, crazy stuff IMO.

Clare were unfortunate to get a man incorrectly sent off as well but with Condon out of the defence left space for the Clare forwards to run onto ball. Limerick by allowing Clare the spare man in defence gave Clare a platform to work the ball up the field and pick out their forwards negating to an extent the spare man who was Mike Casey not having much impact on the ball.
Something for Limerick management to learn in the future as I think they've a few more kicks in them this summer.

Clare are beginning to click and as pointed out were well served by having their break in the middle, ie two games, break and then another two games, Waterford and Tipp had four on the bounce and that took its toll near the end like with Wexford who also run out of steam vrs Kilkenny.
Conlon is a beast for one man and takes some watching as Limerick can attest to yesterday even if they did overdo it, he was panicking them sufficiently to try mad things. Kelly is heavily accused of lacking the effort to match his skills but that wasn't the case yesterday and he'd the last word in the duel with Lynch who has fantastically fast hands in a ruck and a great hurler in the making.
They're a better team than the one that got beat by Cork in the opening day and maybe the confidence is beginning to flow, but I think it's a fragile confidence and Cork might still get the better of them in the next outing.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: clonadmad on June 18, 2018, 10:59:13 AM
The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.

How would it?.

Even if they had won,they still wouldn’t have made 3rd place
They would have had 3 points going into yesterday and an incentive to win

Are you really suggesting they didn’t try yesterday,when on all evidence the opposite was the case?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 18, 2018, 12:34:27 PM
The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.

How would it?.

Even if they had won,they still wouldn’t have made 3rd place
They would have had 3 points going into yesterday and an incentive to win

Are you really suggesting they didn’t try yesterday,when on all evidence the opposite was the case?
The "goal" was kick in the nuts to them.
If they had a chance to qualify they would have been different.
The year after an all Ireland appearance can often be poor but the round robin changes the dynamic changes somewhat imo.
As it is this is a year to write off for them
They will be back
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on June 18, 2018, 12:46:52 PM
Clare looked good yesterday, but I felt Limerick did a Limerick as well.

If Jake Morris' shot had gone in, instead of hitting the post and Clare scoring a goal from the same rebound, would Clare have been out?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on June 18, 2018, 01:05:41 PM
Clare looked good yesterday, but I felt Limerick did a Limerick as well.

If Jake Morris' shot had gone in, instead of hitting the post and Clare scoring a goal from the same rebound, would Clare have been out?

Maybe as they'd have been going into this weekend on 2 and a win over Limerick would have had them on 4, the same as Tipp but with head to heads being used on a two way split Clare would have been out, BUT if Cork had of lost yesterday that would have been three teams on two points and scoring difference would have been used and Tipp would have been toast.

Nip and tuck.

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: clonadmad on June 18, 2018, 02:06:46 PM
The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.

How would it?.

Even if they had won,they still wouldn’t have made 3rd place
They would have had 3 points going into yesterday and an incentive to win

Are you really suggesting they didn’t try yesterday,when on all evidence the opposite was the case?
The "goal" was kick in the nuts to them.
If they had a chance to qualify they would have been different.
The year after an all Ireland appearance can often be poor but the round robin changes the dynamic changes somewhat imo.
As it is this is a year to write off for them
They will be back

Are you seriously suggesting they didn’t give 100% yesterday

I was at the game and Cork were under huge pressure bar the last 2 minutes of injury time.

Home advantage and the amount of games you have to play in a row have a huge bearing on results in Munster,which is hugely competitive.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2018, 03:02:41 PM
Huge amount of pride involved. No way would they have wanted to bow out with a whimper.

I would also say Cork could beat Clare - still unconvinced they are strong mentally.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on June 18, 2018, 03:08:01 PM
The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.

How would it?.

Even if they had won,they still wouldn’t have made 3rd place
They would have had 3 points going into yesterday and an incentive to win

Are you really suggesting they didn’t try yesterday,when on all evidence the opposite was the case?
The "goal" was kick in the nuts to them.
If they had a chance to qualify they would have been different.
The year after an all Ireland appearance can often be poor but the round robin changes the dynamic changes somewhat imo.
As it is this is a year to write off for them
They will be back

Are you seriously suggesting they didn’t give 100% yesterday

I was at the game and Cork were under huge pressure bar the last 2 minutes of injury time.

Home advantage and the amount of games you have to play in a row have a huge bearing on results in Munster,which is hugely competitive.

How did Harnedy get away with the steps for the goal?

Can referee's not count to four?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: clonadmad on June 18, 2018, 03:40:06 PM

The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.

How would it?.

Even if they had won,they still wouldn’t have made 3rd place
They would have had 3 points going into yesterday and an incentive to win

Are you really suggesting they didn’t try yesterday,when on all evidence the opposite was the case?
The "goal" was kick in the nuts to them.
If they had a chance to qualify they would have been different.
The year after an all Ireland appearance can often be poor but the round robin changes the dynamic changes somewhat imo.
As it is this is a year to write off for them
They will be back

Are you seriously suggesting they didn’t give 100% yesterday

I was at the game and Cork were under huge pressure bar the last 2 minutes of injury time.

Home advantage and the amount of games you have to play in a row have a huge bearing on results in Munster,which is hugely competitive.

How did Harnedy get away with the steps for the goal?

Can referee's not count to four?

If the 4 steps rule was strictly enforced,a lot of goals would be disallowed.

DJ the finest exponent of the 10 step goal

The standard of officiating has been bang to average in Munster,to say the least

David Reidy yesterday

The Tipp non goal v Waterford

Austin Gleeson ripping the helmet off Bonner Maher

Are 3 other obvious ones that spring to mind
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 18, 2018, 04:26:27 PM
The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.

How would it?.

Even if they had won,they still wouldn’t have made 3rd place
They would have had 3 points going into yesterday and an incentive to win

Are you really suggesting they didn’t try yesterday,when on all evidence the opposite was the case?
The "goal" was kick in the nuts to them.
If they had a chance to qualify they would have been different.
The year after an all Ireland appearance can often be poor but the round robin changes the dynamic changes somewhat imo.
As it is this is a year to write off for them
They will be back

Are you seriously suggesting they didn’t give 100% yesterday

I was at the game and Cork were under huge pressure bar the last 2 minutes of injury time.

Home advantage and the amount of games you have to play in a row have a huge bearing on results in Munster,which is hugely competitive.

How did Harnedy get away with the steps for the goal?

Can referee's not count to four?
Waterford player slapped him with the hurley across the grip as far as I could see
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on June 18, 2018, 04:43:33 PM
The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.

How would it?.

Even if they had won,they still wouldn’t have made 3rd place
They would have had 3 points going into yesterday and an incentive to win

Are you really suggesting they didn’t try yesterday,when on all evidence the opposite was the case?
The "goal" was kick in the nuts to them.
If they had a chance to qualify they would have been different.
The year after an all Ireland appearance can often be poor but the round robin changes the dynamic changes somewhat imo.
As it is this is a year to write off for them
They will be back

Are you seriously suggesting they didn’t give 100% yesterday

I was at the game and Cork were under huge pressure bar the last 2 minutes of injury time.

Home advantage and the amount of games you have to play in a row have a huge bearing on results in Munster,which is hugely competitive.

How did Harnedy get away with the steps for the goal?

Can referee's not count to four?
Waterford player slapped him with the hurley across the grip as far as I could see

Free in or play the advantage. Once the ball has been fouled the advantage is over and come back for the original free.

Advantage doesn't mean you can run all day with the ball in your hand.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 18, 2018, 05:19:48 PM
The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.

How would it?.

Even if they had won,they still wouldn’t have made 3rd place
They would have had 3 points going into yesterday and an incentive to win

Are you really suggesting they didn’t try yesterday,when on all evidence the opposite was the case?
The "goal" was kick in the nuts to them.
If they had a chance to qualify they would have been different.
The year after an all Ireland appearance can often be poor but the round robin changes the dynamic changes somewhat imo.
As it is this is a year to write off for them
They will be back

Are you seriously suggesting they didn’t give 100% yesterday

I was at the game and Cork were under huge pressure bar the last 2 minutes of injury time.

Home advantage and the amount of games you have to play in a row have a huge bearing on results in Munster,which is hugely competitive.

How did Harnedy get away with the steps for the goal?

Can referee's not count to four?
Waterford player slapped him with the hurley across the grip as far as I could see

Free in or play the advantage. Once the ball has been fouled the advantage is over and come back for the original free.

Advantage doesn't mean you can run all day with the ball in your hand.
Advantage acrues
So if he was slapped by the hurley there was an advantage for that
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Zulu on June 18, 2018, 06:43:05 PM
That's not how advantage works. Don't think he was fouled anyway and should have been blown for overcarrying.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on June 18, 2018, 09:18:02 PM

Free in or play the advantage. Once the ball has been fouled the advantage is over and come back for the original free.

Advantage doesn't mean you can run all day with the ball in your hand.

Not sure how the rule is in hurling but in football, if you foul the ball during the advantage, it's a free against you AFAIK. Stupid rule though, the original free should stand
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2018, 09:29:58 PM
Derek mcgrath resigned tonight i hear.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 18, 2018, 09:39:04 PM
Derek mcgrath resigned tonight i hear.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0618/971460-derek-mcgrath-gone/
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on June 19, 2018, 09:50:22 AM

Free in or play the advantage. Once the ball has been fouled the advantage is over and come back for the original free.

Advantage doesn't mean you can run all day with the ball in your hand.

Not sure how the rule is in hurling but in football, if you foul the ball during the advantage, it's a free against you AFAIK. Stupid rule though, the original free should stand

Within 5 seconds the original free stands if you foul the ball, outside that the advantage is over and normal rules apply. Fouling the ball will result in a free against you.

The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.

How would it?.

Even if they had won,they still wouldn’t have made 3rd place
They would have had 3 points going into yesterday and an incentive to win

Are you really suggesting they didn’t try yesterday,when on all evidence the opposite was the case?
The "goal" was kick in the nuts to them.
If they had a chance to qualify they would have been different.
The year after an all Ireland appearance can often be poor but the round robin changes the dynamic changes somewhat imo.
As it is this is a year to write off for them
They will be back

Are you seriously suggesting they didn’t give 100% yesterday

I was at the game and Cork were under huge pressure bar the last 2 minutes of injury time.

Home advantage and the amount of games you have to play in a row have a huge bearing on results in Munster,which is hugely competitive.

How did Harnedy get away with the steps for the goal?

Can referee's not count to four?
Waterford player slapped him with the hurley across the grip as far as I could see

Free in or play the advantage. Once the ball has been fouled the advantage is over and come back for the original free.

Advantage doesn't mean you can run all day with the ball in your hand.
Advantage acrues
So if he was slapped by the hurley there was an advantage for that

Never heard of that one before.

So what you're saying is that Harnedy because he was slapped was allowed to overcarry or are you saying the once he was slapped his step count was reset to 0 and allowed to take another 4 steps irrespective of the 3 he'd already taken pre slap???
Don't think either are in the rule book.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 19, 2018, 09:54:27 AM

Free in or play the advantage. Once the ball has been fouled the advantage is over and come back for the original free.

Advantage doesn't mean you can run all day with the ball in your hand.

Not sure how the rule is in hurling but in football, if you foul the ball during the advantage, it's a free against you AFAIK. Stupid rule though, the original free should stand

Within 5 seconds the original free stands if you foul the ball, outside that the advantage is over and normal rules apply. Fouling the ball will result in a free against you.

The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.

How would it?.

Even if they had won,they still wouldn’t have made 3rd place
They would have had 3 points going into yesterday and an incentive to win

Are you really suggesting they didn’t try yesterday,when on all evidence the opposite was the case?
The "goal" was kick in the nuts to them.
If they had a chance to qualify they would have been different.
The year after an all Ireland appearance can often be poor but the round robin changes the dynamic changes somewhat imo.
As it is this is a year to write off for them
They will be back

Are you seriously suggesting they didn’t give 100% yesterday

I was at the game and Cork were under huge pressure bar the last 2 minutes of injury time.

Home advantage and the amount of games you have to play in a row have a huge bearing on results in Munster,which is hugely competitive.

How did Harnedy get away with the steps for the goal?

Can referee's not count to four?
Waterford player slapped him with the hurley across the grip as far as I could see

Free in or play the advantage. Once the ball has been fouled the advantage is over and come back for the original free.

Advantage doesn't mean you can run all day with the ball in your hand.
Advantage acrues
So if he was slapped by the hurley there was an advantage for that

Never heard of that one before.

So what you're saying is that Harnedy because he was slapped was allowed to overcarry or are you saying the once he was slapped his step count was reset to 0 and allowed to take another 4 steps irrespective of the 3 he'd already taken pre slap???
Don't think either are in the rule book.
the foul would be from where the slap was given
but county referees seem to be giving the players another 4 steps with the ball as an extra advantage
it has happened in a number of games this year during the league and championship
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on June 19, 2018, 10:14:03 AM

Free in or play the advantage. Once the ball has been fouled the advantage is over and come back for the original free.

Advantage doesn't mean you can run all day with the ball in your hand.

Not sure how the rule is in hurling but in football, if you foul the ball during the advantage, it's a free against you AFAIK. Stupid rule though, the original free should stand

Within 5 seconds the original free stands if you foul the ball, outside that the advantage is over and normal rules apply. Fouling the ball will result in a free against you.

The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.

How would it?.

Even if they had won,they still wouldn’t have made 3rd place
They would have had 3 points going into yesterday and an incentive to win

Are you really suggesting they didn’t try yesterday,when on all evidence the opposite was the case?
The "goal" was kick in the nuts to them.
If they had a chance to qualify they would have been different.
The year after an all Ireland appearance can often be poor but the round robin changes the dynamic changes somewhat imo.
As it is this is a year to write off for them
They will be back

Are you seriously suggesting they didn’t give 100% yesterday

I was at the game and Cork were under huge pressure bar the last 2 minutes of injury time.

Home advantage and the amount of games you have to play in a row have a huge bearing on results in Munster,which is hugely competitive.

How did Harnedy get away with the steps for the goal?

Can referee's not count to four?
Waterford player slapped him with the hurley across the grip as far as I could see

Free in or play the advantage. Once the ball has been fouled the advantage is over and come back for the original free.

Advantage doesn't mean you can run all day with the ball in your hand.
Advantage acrues
So if he was slapped by the hurley there was an advantage for that

Never heard of that one before.

So what you're saying is that Harnedy because he was slapped was allowed to overcarry or are you saying the once he was slapped his step count was reset to 0 and allowed to take another 4 steps irrespective of the 3 he'd already taken pre slap???
Don't think either are in the rule book.
the foul would be from where the slap was given
but county referees seem to be giving the players another 4 steps with the ball as an extra advantage
it has happened in a number of games this year during the league and championship

I'm not saying it doesn't happen but its certainly not in the rulebook, but that's never an issue in hurling as the rulebook is seldom adhered to.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 19, 2018, 10:24:42 AM

Free in or play the advantage. Once the ball has been fouled the advantage is over and come back for the original free.

Advantage doesn't mean you can run all day with the ball in your hand.

Not sure how the rule is in hurling but in football, if you foul the ball during the advantage, it's a free against you AFAIK. Stupid rule though, the original free should stand

Within 5 seconds the original free stands if you foul the ball, outside that the advantage is over and normal rules apply. Fouling the ball will result in a free against you.

The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.

How would it?.

Even if they had won,they still wouldn’t have made 3rd place
They would have had 3 points going into yesterday and an incentive to win

Are you really suggesting they didn’t try yesterday,when on all evidence the opposite was the case?
The "goal" was kick in the nuts to them.
If they had a chance to qualify they would have been different.
The year after an all Ireland appearance can often be poor but the round robin changes the dynamic changes somewhat imo.
As it is this is a year to write off for them
They will be back

Are you seriously suggesting they didn’t give 100% yesterday

I was at the game and Cork were under huge pressure bar the last 2 minutes of injury time.

Home advantage and the amount of games you have to play in a row have a huge bearing on results in Munster,which is hugely competitive.

How did Harnedy get away with the steps for the goal?

Can referee's not count to four?
Waterford player slapped him with the hurley across the grip as far as I could see

Free in or play the advantage. Once the ball has been fouled the advantage is over and come back for the original free.

Advantage doesn't mean you can run all day with the ball in your hand.
Advantage acrues
So if he was slapped by the hurley there was an advantage for that

Never heard of that one before.

So what you're saying is that Harnedy because he was slapped was allowed to overcarry or are you saying the once he was slapped his step count was reset to 0 and allowed to take another 4 steps irrespective of the 3 he'd already taken pre slap???
Don't think either are in the rule book.
the foul would be from where the slap was given
but county referees seem to be giving the players another 4 steps with the ball as an extra advantage
it has happened in a number of games this year during the league and championship

I'm not saying it doesn't happen but its certainly not in the rulebook, but that's never an issue in hurling as the rulebook is seldom adhered to.
Cody and the boys have their own rulebook
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on June 19, 2018, 10:33:28 AM

Free in or play the advantage. Once the ball has been fouled the advantage is over and come back for the original free.

Advantage doesn't mean you can run all day with the ball in your hand.

Not sure how the rule is in hurling but in football, if you foul the ball during the advantage, it's a free against you AFAIK. Stupid rule though, the original free should stand

Within 5 seconds the original free stands if you foul the ball, outside that the advantage is over and normal rules apply. Fouling the ball will result in a free against you.

The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.

How would it?.

Even if they had won,they still wouldn’t have made 3rd place
They would have had 3 points going into yesterday and an incentive to win

Are you really suggesting they didn’t try yesterday,when on all evidence the opposite was the case?
The "goal" was kick in the nuts to them.
If they had a chance to qualify they would have been different.
The year after an all Ireland appearance can often be poor but the round robin changes the dynamic changes somewhat imo.
As it is this is a year to write off for them
They will be back

Are you seriously suggesting they didn’t give 100% yesterday

I was at the game and Cork were under huge pressure bar the last 2 minutes of injury time.

Home advantage and the amount of games you have to play in a row have a huge bearing on results in Munster,which is hugely competitive.

How did Harnedy get away with the steps for the goal?

Can referee's not count to four?
Waterford player slapped him with the hurley across the grip as far as I could see

Free in or play the advantage. Once the ball has been fouled the advantage is over and come back for the original free.

Advantage doesn't mean you can run all day with the ball in your hand.
Advantage acrues
So if he was slapped by the hurley there was an advantage for that

Never heard of that one before.

So what you're saying is that Harnedy because he was slapped was allowed to overcarry or are you saying the once he was slapped his step count was reset to 0 and allowed to take another 4 steps irrespective of the 3 he'd already taken pre slap???
Don't think either are in the rule book.
the foul would be from where the slap was given
but county referees seem to be giving the players another 4 steps with the ball as an extra advantage
it has happened in a number of games this year during the league and championship

I'm not saying it doesn't happen but its certainly not in the rulebook, but that's never an issue in hurling as the rulebook is seldom adhered to.
Cody and the boys have their own rulebook

If Galway give KK a good schalaking in every sense of the word in the upcoming Leinster final then I can see Eddie Keher being wheeled out to complain about Galways physicality...

KK don't have the physical power they once had and Galway should let them know it as they've been on the receiving end when the shoe was on the other foot.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 19, 2018, 04:59:57 PM

Free in or play the advantage. Once the ball has been fouled the advantage is over and come back for the original free.

Advantage doesn't mean you can run all day with the ball in your hand.

Not sure how the rule is in hurling but in football, if you foul the ball during the advantage, it's a free against you AFAIK. Stupid rule though, the original free should stand

Within 5 seconds the original free stands if you foul the ball, outside that the advantage is over and normal rules apply. Fouling the ball will result in a free against you.

The non goal Tipp got v the Déise defined the Munster ranking.

How would it?.

Even if they had won,they still wouldn’t have made 3rd place
They would have had 3 points going into yesterday and an incentive to win

Are you really suggesting they didn’t try yesterday,when on all evidence the opposite was the case?
The "goal" was kick in the nuts to them.
If they had a chance to qualify they would have been different.
The year after an all Ireland appearance can often be poor but the round robin changes the dynamic changes somewhat imo.
As it is this is a year to write off for them
They will be back

Are you seriously suggesting they didn’t give 100% yesterday

I was at the game and Cork were under huge pressure bar the last 2 minutes of injury time.

Home advantage and the amount of games you have to play in a row have a huge bearing on results in Munster,which is hugely competitive.

How did Harnedy get away with the steps for the goal?

Can referee's not count to four?
Waterford player slapped him with the hurley across the grip as far as I could see

Free in or play the advantage. Once the ball has been fouled the advantage is over and come back for the original free.

Advantage doesn't mean you can run all day with the ball in your hand.
Advantage acrues
So if he was slapped by the hurley there was an advantage for that

Never heard of that one before.

So what you're saying is that Harnedy because he was slapped was allowed to overcarry or are you saying the once he was slapped his step count was reset to 0 and allowed to take another 4 steps irrespective of the 3 he'd already taken pre slap???
Don't think either are in the rule book.
the foul would be from where the slap was given
but county referees seem to be giving the players another 4 steps with the ball as an extra advantage
it has happened in a number of games this year during the league and championship

I'm not saying it doesn't happen but its certainly not in the rulebook, but that's never an issue in hurling as the rulebook is seldom adhered to.
Cody and the boys have their own rulebook

If Galway give KK a good schalaking in every sense of the word in the upcoming Leinster final then I can see Eddie Keher being wheeled out to complain about Galways physicality...

KK don't have the physical power they once had and Galway should let them know it as they've been on the receiving end when the shoe was on the other foot.
I don't know. Maybe they would just take their beating. I think they know they have work to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYj-24PmwsE&t=54s

KK have been wondering when Galway would show up for a number of years


Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 19, 2018, 06:36:35 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0619/971643-derek-mcgrath-farewell-night-will-live-with-me-forever/
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 20, 2018, 11:25:03 AM
Serious question for the hurley folks -
Now that they've been played what are ye're thoughts or observations  on the 2 Provincial Round Robins and the Joe McDonagh?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on June 20, 2018, 11:32:04 AM
Serious question for the hurley folks -
Now that they've been played what are ye're thoughts or observations  on the 2 Provincial Round Robins and the Joe McDonagh?

I really enjoyed the Munster provincial championship. The relative equality of the teams made for some very exciting and close games. I do think they need to build in an off week so that one team doesn't play 4 weeks in a row like Tipp and Waterford had to. (actually not sure about Waterford, but I think they were off the first week).

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 20, 2018, 12:14:41 PM
Serious question for the hurley folks -
Now that they've been played what are ye're thoughts or observations  on the 2 Provincial Round Robins and the Joe McDonagh?
They need some sort of break in the middle.
The JoeMcDonagh is a big improvementioned especially with promotion. Maybe less fair on Leinster regarding relegation.
Overall I think the reforms have been good. 
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 20, 2018, 03:40:32 PM
Serious question for the hurley folks -
Now that they've been played what are ye're thoughts or observations  on the 2 Provincial Round Robins and the Joe McDonagh?
They need some sort of break in the middle.
The JoeMcDonagh is a big improvementioned especially with promotion. Maybe less fair on Leinster regarding relegation.
Overall I think the reforms have been good.

The relegation issue could be sorted by having bottom team in Leinster play bottom team in Munster to see who goes down.  Joe McDonagh champion would then have to join the province from which the relegated team came from - that might be an issue.

The Joe McDonagh had several tight, high-scoring games but never made any highlights on TSG.  Surely they could feature extended highlights in a longer mid-week show.  Although I have to admit I don't like the highlights on TSG, one gets no sense of how the game is going if you don't see the wides, the fluffed sideline cuts, and the odd refereeing decisions that make up the game.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 21, 2018, 12:42:06 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0620/971984-banner-belief-back-as-they-build-momentum-of-champions/
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 21, 2018, 03:11:00 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0620/971984-banner-belief-back-as-they-build-momentum-of-champions/

Naturally, I picked The Banner as outside the top 3 in Munster - they will probably win it all now.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 29, 2018, 11:24:28 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/jackie-tyrrell-cork-concede-far-too-much-to-win-an-all-ireland-1.3547298

A sweeper or seventh defender isn’t the Cork way. Never was and never will be. Cork are proud and traditional in their mentality and how they approach the beautiful game. Their attitude is: “We are Cork, boy – we’ll take you langers on anyway you want”. I love that Cork swagger, that honest, open, refreshing confidence in who they are. They always feel they have a chance even when sometimes they clearly don’t.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on June 29, 2018, 11:40:31 AM
Seafoid, I'm not sure that's correct about Cork's attitude. I always get the impression that Cork will do whatever they feel helps them win, rather than be slaves to 'traditional hurling'. John Fenton's ground stroke is a long time ago now. They practically invented the short running game and they play the game a lot differently than say a Tipp or Kilkenny do.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on June 29, 2018, 11:46:30 AM
Seafoid, I'm not sure that's correct about Cork's attitude. I always get the impression that Cork will do whatever they feel helps them win, rather than be slaves to 'traditional hurling'. John Fenton's ground stroke is a long time ago now. They practically invented the short running game and they play the game a lot differently than say a Tipp or Kilkenny do.

That's Tyrells quote Seafoid has put up there.

I'd be in agreement with you that Cork will cut their cloth to suit. Expect to see someone deep in front of John Conlon to protect the fullback line, albeit not as obvious as Limerick. Then they'll all filter down the pitch to plug the gaps and attempt to leave a lot of space for their forwards.
Can't see the Clare defence following them and leaving the back door open.
I can see this being an edgy enough game and if Conlon can create or score a goal or two Clare might do it and secure a semi-final spot.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 29, 2018, 11:56:52 AM
Seafoid, I'm not sure that's correct about Cork's attitude. I always get the impression that Cork will do whatever they feel helps them win, rather than be slaves to 'traditional hurling'. John Fenton's ground stroke is a long time ago now. They practically invented the short running game and they play the game a lot differently than say a Tipp or Kilkenny do.
Mr Jackie Tee wrote it, AZ.
I think the "we are Cork, boy " is spot on
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on June 29, 2018, 12:25:04 PM
Seafoid, I'm not sure that's correct about Cork's attitude. I always get the impression that Cork will do whatever they feel helps them win, rather than be slaves to 'traditional hurling'. John Fenton's ground stroke is a long time ago now. They practically invented the short running game and they play the game a lot differently than say a Tipp or Kilkenny do.
Mr Jackie Tee wrote it, AZ.
I think the "we are Cork, boy " is spot on

Apologies, didn't realise you were quoting him. I still disagree with it :) But the 'We are Cork, boy' is spot on. They are famous for being very self confident. However that does not mean they won't adapt if they feel they need to, it's just that they know their plan is way better than yours :)
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 29, 2018, 12:29:10 PM
Seafoid, I'm not sure that's correct about Cork's attitude. I always get the impression that Cork will do whatever they feel helps them win, rather than be slaves to 'traditional hurling'. John Fenton's ground stroke is a long time ago now. They practically invented the short running game and they play the game a lot differently than say a Tipp or Kilkenny do.
Mr Jackie Tee wrote it, AZ.
I think the "we are Cork, boy " is spot on

Apologies, didn't realise you were quoting him. I still disagree with it :) But the 'We are Cork, boy' is spot on. They are famous for being very self confident. However that does not mean they won't adapt if they feel they need to, it's just that they know their plan is way better than yours :)
Cork have been off the boil since 2005, which is a long time for them , boy.
The strike was poisonous. They never caught up with Cody after losing the 06 final.
Hurling changed and they weren't at the party. 
They are still a work in progress.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 29, 2018, 12:31:10 PM
Tipp being out is still a shock.

@ShaneSaint

Jun 10

Tipp gone by June 10. Really hard to understand how such a talented bunch can underachieve like this. League wasted, constant changing, incoherent game plan, and this is the culmination of it today


Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on June 29, 2018, 12:32:06 PM
Seafoid, I'm not sure that's correct about Cork's attitude. I always get the impression that Cork will do whatever they feel helps them win, rather than be slaves to 'traditional hurling'. John Fenton's ground stroke is a long time ago now. They practically invented the short running game and they play the game a lot differently than say a Tipp or Kilkenny do.
Mr Jackie Tee wrote it, AZ.
I think the "we are Cork, boy " is spot on

Apologies, didn't realise you were quoting him. I still disagree with it :) But the 'We are Cork, boy' is spot on. They are famous for being very self confident. However that does not mean they won't adapt if they feel they need to, it's just that they know their plan is way better than yours :)
Cork have been off the boil since 2005, which is a long time for them , boy.
The strike was poisonous. They never caught up with Cody after losing the 06 final.
Hurling changed and they weren't at the party. 
They are still a work in progress.

Woah there. Are you conflating a whole load of stuff there? I thought Cork won an All Ireland after the strike? Or am I raving? And I think Cork were instrumental in the way hurling changed back in the mid 00's as they took the fight to Kilkenny for a few years with the O'Connors and their running style etc.

The new breed are definitely a work in progress, but I think a lot of what happened Cork was they were too focussed on styles and such, and forgot the basics. There was a period there where Cork's first touch and striking was the poorest out of any of the serious counties.

I just realised you are talking about the second (or third) strike. I was talking about the one in 2002. Sure you couldn't keep track of all their strikes :)
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 29, 2018, 01:09:38 PM
Seafoid, I'm not sure that's correct about Cork's attitude. I always get the impression that Cork will do whatever they feel helps them win, rather than be slaves to 'traditional hurling'. John Fenton's ground stroke is a long time ago now. They practically invented the short running game and they play the game a lot differently than say a Tipp or Kilkenny do.
Mr Jackie Tee wrote it, AZ.
I think the "we are Cork, boy " is spot on

Apologies, didn't realise you were quoting him. I still disagree with it :) But the 'We are Cork, boy' is spot on. They are famous for being very self confident. However that does not mean they won't adapt if they feel they need to, it's just that they know their plan is way better than yours :)
Cork have been off the boil since 2005, which is a long time for them , boy.
The strike was poisonous. They never caught up with Cody after losing the 06 final.
Hurling changed and they weren't at the party. 
They are still a work in progress.

Woah there. Are you conflating a whole load of stuff there? I thought Cork won an All Ireland after the strike? Or am I raving? And I think Cork were instrumental in the way hurling changed back in the mid 00's as they took the fight to Kilkenny for a few years with the O'Connors and their running style etc.

The new breed are definitely a work in progress, but I think a lot of what happened Cork was they were too focussed on styles and such, and forgot the basics. There was a period there where Cork's first touch and striking was the poorest out of any of the serious counties.

I just realised you are talking about the second (or third) strike. I was talking about the one in 2002. Sure you couldn't keep track of all their strikes :)
You couldn't.
I was at the 2006 final. It felt like the end of an era.
Cork were going for the 3 in a row and full of confidence.  The hurling was savage. Both teams giving it everything.
KK were relentless.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 29, 2018, 01:20:32 PM
Cork have pace and more pace up front
They'll want to use every blade of grass to give their speedsters space to run into.

I actually think their full back line aren't great. The goalie is poor enough on shots
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on June 29, 2018, 01:23:56 PM
Cork have pace and more pace up front
They'll want to use every blade of grass to give their speedsters space to run into.

I actually think their full back line aren't great. The goalie is poor enough on shots

Young Flanagan from Limerick took the Cork full back line apart. Mind you that was after Gillane got sent off, so maybe the thing to do with them is play a 2 man inside line and run the legs off them. Flanagan isn't in the form of his life either, he wasn't outstanding in any of the other games, and was taken off against Tipp U21s last week.

I can't agree with you about Anthony Nash though. I think shot stopping is normally one of his strong points. That reaction save to Bubble's Dwyer's ground stroke v Tipp was sensational.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on June 29, 2018, 02:38:31 PM
Cork have pace and more pace up front
They'll want to use every blade of grass to give their speedsters space to run into.

I actually think their full back line aren't great. The goalie is poor enough on shots

Young Flanagan from Limerick took the Cork full back line apart. Mind you that was after Gillane got sent off, so maybe the thing to do with them is play a 2 man inside line and run the legs off them. Flanagan isn't in the form of his life either, he wasn't outstanding in any of the other games, and was taken off against Tipp U21s last week.

I can't agree with you about Anthony Nash though. I think shot stopping is normally one of his strong points. That reaction save to Bubble's Dwyer's ground stroke v Tipp was sensational.

In last years Munster final Clare were so preoccupied with the Cork puck out that their half back line got sucked up the field leaving acres in behind killing their fullback line. They didn't do the same this year in Frank Murphy Park, but allowed too many Cork lads a free run through the middle of the pitch to either take a score or pick spaces to play the ball into.
They look to have sorted that out against Limerick where Lynch was well marshalled plus there's more bulk to their half backs who are more imposing and should stop the likes of Kearney and Cooper getting space.

Conlon to the edge of the square could work if Shane O'Donnell feeds off him and Nash may be needed but the shot needs to be aimed at his weak side. I remember Nash when facing a TJ Reid penalty stood well to one side of the goal showing TJ the larger area to his strong side. TJ took the big side and Nash saved it. In open play Nash mightn't have the time to position himself and the Clare forwards need to shoot smarter.

I can see a Clare win but they'll need goals to do it.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Asal Mor on June 29, 2018, 09:30:08 PM
Cork have pace and more pace up front
They'll want to use every blade of grass to give their speedsters space to run into.

I actually think their full back line aren't great. The goalie is poor enough on shots

Young Flanagan from Limerick took the Cork full back line apart. Mind you that was after Gillane got sent off, so maybe the thing to do with them is play a 2 man inside line and run the legs off them. Flanagan isn't in the form of his life either, he wasn't outstanding in any of the other games, and was taken off against Tipp U21s last week.

I can't agree with you about Anthony Nash though. I think shot stopping is normally one of his strong points. That reaction save to Bubble's Dwyer's ground stroke v Tipp was sensational.
I would say the one weakness in Nash's game is when a lad is running straight in on him, he doesn't come out and smother the shot.
See Johnny Glynns goal in 2015. Very poor from Nash. The ball bounces at the edge of the small square and he's stuck to his line. Donal Og would have thrown his body in front of it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DwmO-I--ueA
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: gallsman on June 30, 2018, 05:11:45 PM
The Leinster minor final sounds like it might have been the greatest game in history.

Dublin 6-19 Kilkenny 7-12.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on June 30, 2018, 06:55:20 PM
The Leinster minor final sounds like it might have been the greatest game in history.

Dublin 6-19 Kilkenny 7-12.

No sweepers by the looks of things,  :D
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: longballin on June 30, 2018, 06:57:47 PM
Hurling still saving Gaelic games
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 01, 2018, 04:51:59 PM
Cork are Munster champions, boy
And the Cats a point ahead at half time

 

Brian Gavin  @referee34
 

 

Kilkenny way more up for it than Galway but you'll see a different Galway in the 2nd half I feel.#hairdryeratthebreak

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 01, 2018, 05:30:02 PM
Draw a fair result. Well done to both sides. Where will the replay be played? as Croke park isn't an option next weekend.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 01, 2018, 05:46:16 PM
Next Sunday in Turles
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2018, 05:47:23 PM
Galway thought they just had to turn up! Poor show on everything bar the fielding, which was immense
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 01, 2018, 07:24:08 PM
So the Leinster Final replay involving a team from Connacht will be played in Munster. The only thing missing is an Ulster ref.
Would you oblige, Milltown?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2018, 07:43:10 PM
So the Leinster Final replay involving a team from Connacht will be played in Munster. The only thing missing is an Ulster ref.
Would you oblige, Milltown?

Bar one decision he got them spot on!

I’m afraid that Ulster refs are looked over for these games  ::)
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: clonadmad on July 01, 2018, 07:58:56 PM
Playing it in Semple,a venue which borders both counties?

A cracking atmosphere there as opposed to a half full venue in CP?

Provincial town getting a few bob thrown it’s way?

What’s not to like

Time more games were put in appropriately sized venues not always the Stockholm syndrome of having to go to Dublin

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: SHEEDY on July 01, 2018, 08:24:51 PM
waterford were refused permission to use nolan park as their home venue in the munster championship round robin matches because the venue wasnt in munster. matches not within regional boundaries can be forgot about when it suits.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: clonadmad on July 01, 2018, 09:34:26 PM
waterford were refused permission to use nolan park as their home venue in the munster championship round robin matches because the venue wasnt in munster. matches not within regional boundaries can be forgot about when it suits.

If the Waterford County Board had shown any bit of backbone this wouldn’t have happened either

Easy to blame da suits up in Croker when the Waterford CB is easily the monst incompetent in Munster
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on July 01, 2018, 10:42:13 PM
3 points up on 67 minutes, Galway should really have seen this out even though they didn't play great
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 01, 2018, 10:50:16 PM
waterford were refused permission to use nolan park as their home venue in the munster championship round robin matches because the venue wasnt in munster. matches not within regional boundaries can be forgot about when it suits.
They must have been poor negotiators
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on July 02, 2018, 08:29:10 AM
3 points up on 67 minutes, Galway should really have seen this out even though they didn't play great
Would agree with that for sure.  Hard to know how we even managed to be 3 pts up at that stage considering how poor we were from midfield up for most of that game - first touch and poor decision making riddled our performance yesterday.  Hopefully such a game will bring us on and an improved performance in Thurles next week will see us through. 
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on July 02, 2018, 09:29:54 AM
3 points up on 67 minutes, Galway should really have seen this out even though they didn't play great
Would agree with that for sure.  Hard to know how we even managed to be 3 pts up at that stage considering how poor we were from midfield up for most of that game - first touch and poor decision making riddled our performance yesterday.  Hopefully such a game will bring us on and an improved performance in Thurles next week will see us through.

They were brutal from midfield up, thought they were chasing goals that weren't really on either. We can put it down to a bit of complacency but that can't be the excuse next weekend.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2018, 01:09:56 PM
Kilkenny were relentless, I thought they would have had little in the tank left as they were more hungry than Galway, and the subs Kilkenny brought on gave them that boost near the end... Galway just need to match Kilkenny's passion next time out, should win by 6
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 02, 2018, 02:10:18 PM
The Kilkenny reaction to getting a draw says a lot about the state of play at the moment.
It was very different a few years ago...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RztFiCl_r20

SEAMUS MC CARTHY6 years ago

I had a bird's eye view of the first of those 3 goals. Perfect way to skin them bloody cats. Yes they got revenge last year but we stopped em getting a 5 in a row. That was special. Their previous championship defeat in 2005 also featured a hat trick from Niall Healy of Galway. Much as it galls a Tipp man like me to admit it, it seems nothing less than an individual hat trick is good enough to beat these stripey b**tards. That's how good they are.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: dec on July 02, 2018, 04:32:24 PM
Is there any reason they couldn't have played extra time in the Galway/Kilkenny game?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2018, 04:36:31 PM
Is there any reason they couldn't have played extra time in the Galway/Kilkenny game?

Finals never go to a extra time, only after the replay do they go to extra time, semi finals and other rounds go to extra time..

It would have been needed to be stated and agreed at the top before that could happen
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: playwiththewind1st on July 02, 2018, 09:04:01 PM
Is there any reason they couldn't have played extra time in the Galway/Kilkenny game?

Yes...the unwritten GAA rule.....sides level, blow it up & wait for replay cash to roll in.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Sportacus on July 02, 2018, 10:23:46 PM
An emerging Kilkenny team playing with as much passion as their predecessors.  Their supporters were very quiet, completely outnumbered which surprised me a bit.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on July 04, 2018, 11:33:56 PM
Sounds like the Leinster U21 final was a cracker, last minute wexford goal to level it, last minute ET Galway goal to win it by a point
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Over the Bar on July 04, 2018, 11:57:34 PM
Sounds like the Leinster U21 final was a cracker, last minute wexford goal to level it, last minute ET Galway goal to win it by a point

It was superb. In fairness to the ref he allowed both sides the chance to equalise in normal time and extra. The purists don't like that I know.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 05, 2018, 11:08:29 AM
What a fantastic result for Galway
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on July 08, 2018, 03:15:21 PM
Some start for Galway.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: longballin on July 08, 2018, 03:19:32 PM
same two teams will probably meet in All Ireland final with same outcome
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 08, 2018, 03:24:07 PM
KK are a few years behind Galway. It's like a few years ago with the roles reversed 

19 min Galway 1-08 Kilkenny 0-01

Michael Duignan describes it as "breathless stuff" and you can't argue with that. Whelan is destroying all around him and he is fouled by Paul Murphy, who is cautioned...Joe Canning knocks over the free and Brian Cody is already calling on his bench.


 https://youtu.be/mUXzAYLmvPQ
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 08, 2018, 03:35:22 PM
Steps rule doesn't apply to Kilkenny again
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on July 08, 2018, 03:37:41 PM
Steps rule doesn't apply to Kilkenny again
Unreal! He must have taken 12 steps.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on July 08, 2018, 03:38:19 PM
Steps rule doesn't apply to Kilkenny again

Gave new meaning to walking the ball into the net. There'll be nothing said by the panel at half time.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 08, 2018, 03:38:43 PM
That was a farce! Think he was fouled so could have been a free in (penalty) but the ref gave him a few extra steps
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 08, 2018, 03:39:00 PM
Steps rule doesn't apply to Kilkenny again

Probably Feeling sorry for them. Rediculous decision. Galway are relentless.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 08, 2018, 03:42:24 PM
Huge difference to last week. Kk slowed everything down and got a lot of soft frees. Now the pace is faster and they still aren't scoring enough from play.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 08, 2018, 03:46:25 PM
A few years ago Cody could count on Shefflin to reel in Galway if they had a good first half. But Henry does not tog out any more.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on July 08, 2018, 03:53:41 PM
A few years ago Cody could count on Shefflin to reel in Galway if they had a good first half. But Henry does not tog out any more.

What? When did this happen?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 08, 2018, 04:03:35 PM
Poxy goal for the cats
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: longballin on July 08, 2018, 04:10:47 PM
How is there 4 points in it?!! Galway a much better team...
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on July 08, 2018, 04:12:47 PM
Game on. Never write them off.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on July 08, 2018, 04:13:46 PM
Some comeback by the Kilkenny.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: longballin on July 08, 2018, 04:29:51 PM
Cody be fair motivated to get another rattle at Galway. New format Cats have plenty of lives.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on July 08, 2018, 04:29:58 PM
Galway well able to up it when needed.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 08, 2018, 04:32:15 PM
Well done to Connacht's Galway Leinster champions in a game played in Munster.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 08, 2018, 04:34:09 PM
3-15 is a huge losing score
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 08, 2018, 04:34:28 PM
Great to see supporters allowed onto the field after the game instead of the nonsense of "insurance claims" in Croke park.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: gallsman on July 08, 2018, 04:37:56 PM
Unreal stuff. KK just ran out of steam the last 15 mins or so. Some brilliant hurling across all the age groups the last few weeks.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Lar Naparka on July 08, 2018, 04:59:15 PM
Well done to Connacht's Galway Leinster champions in a game played in Munster.
Mad when you think about it. Maybe sign of things to come
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: lenny on July 09, 2018, 07:38:26 AM
Unreal stuff. KK just ran out of steam the last 15 mins or so. Some brilliant hurling across all the age groups the last few weeks.

It wasn’t that great a game yesterday. Kilkenny got 2 dubious goals and another from a rebound. And galway still won by 7. Galway are streets ahead of them and stepped it up when they needed it.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Sweeper 123 on July 09, 2018, 08:45:53 AM
Do we know the venues for next weekends matches and how much will the last two weeks affect KK.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on July 09, 2018, 09:01:24 AM
Unreal stuff. KK just ran out of steam the last 15 mins or so. Some brilliant hurling across all the age groups the last few weeks.

It wasn’t that great a game yesterday. Kilkenny got 2 dubious goals and another from a rebound. And galway still won by 7. Galway are streets ahead of them and stepped it up when they needed it.

1-3 from Kilkenny's starting forwards compared to Galway's 1-18 tells another story.

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 09, 2018, 09:15:18 AM
Unreal stuff. KK just ran out of steam the last 15 mins or so. Some brilliant hurling across all the age groups the last few weeks.

It wasn’t that great a game yesterday. Kilkenny got 2 dubious goals and another from a rebound. And galway still won by 7. Galway are streets ahead of them and stepped it up when they needed it.
Galway are more fluid. They have better decision making .
KK shot a few bad wides towards the end  They need more experience as a team. Galway showed what they can do in the first half

https://youtu.be/7CRW1g_EsC8
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on July 09, 2018, 10:50:44 AM
Unreal stuff. KK just ran out of steam the last 15 mins or so. Some brilliant hurling across all the age groups the last few weeks.

It wasn’t that great a game yesterday. Kilkenny got 2 dubious goals and another from a rebound. And galway still won by 7. Galway are streets ahead of them and stepped it up when they needed it.

Ref was a bit kind to KK to say the least but it's hardly the first time you've heard that said in years.

Galway just have the extra power and skill now to kick on when they want to.

Kilkennys spirit has to be admired but they're well short of the team they once were.

They may get over Limerick but you'd have to say that could be their summer over as I can't see them doing Cork or Galway again.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 09, 2018, 11:25:51 AM
Unreal stuff. KK just ran out of steam the last 15 mins or so. Some brilliant hurling across all the age groups the last few weeks.

It wasn’t that great a game yesterday. Kilkenny got 2 dubious goals and another from a rebound. And galway still won by 7. Galway are streets ahead of them and stepped it up when they needed it.

Ref was a bit kind to KK to say the least but it's hardly the first time you've heard that said in years.

Galway just have the extra power and skill now to kick on when they want to.

Kilkennys spirit has to be admired but they're well short of the team they once were.

They may get over Limerick but you'd have to say that could be their summer over as I can't see them doing Cork or Galway again.
KK have some great hurlers like Reid but they also have young lads lacking big game experience such as Leahy here at
3.44

https://youtu.be/zyowergNnwY

He didn't see who else was available and he shot wide.
Galway would have worked a score out of that.
KK are not as slick because of this aspect of the team. They could be great in a few years but not this year.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Hound on July 09, 2018, 11:57:31 AM
Do we know the venues for next weekends matches and how much will the last two weeks affect KK.
Double bill in Thurles makes most sense. A KK mate said he heard there's a push on to have the double bill in Pairc Ui Chaoimh instead. Maybe that's the delay in the announcement as wouldn't imagine either of the Leinster teams would want to go to Cork, but I'd imagine we'll hear shortly.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 09, 2018, 11:59:17 AM
KK and Limerick are both evens next week

https://www.oddschecker.com/gaelic-games/hurling

 



Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: NAG1 on July 09, 2018, 12:12:14 PM
I'd love to see Limerick wipe them out.

Galway were something else yesterday could and should have won by a good bit more but this will stand to them as the year goes on.

The skill level of the Galway men is unreal.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 09, 2018, 01:10:05 PM
I'd love to see Limerick wipe them out.

Galway were something else yesterday could and should have won by a good bit more but this will stand to them as the year goes on.

The skill level of the Galway men is unreal.
Limerick need to win this. They have to put a decent run together to get where they should be.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2018, 02:12:44 PM
Galway are even money to win, along with Dublin at 8/11, thats free money!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 09, 2018, 04:52:33 PM
Richie Hogan is needed earlier on the field for KK
Great decision making on the ball and a great man to win a free with a dip of the head into a 'high tackle'
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on July 09, 2018, 08:52:37 PM
Richie Hogan is needed earlier on the field for KK
Great decision making on the ball and a great man to win a free with a dip of the head into a 'high tackle'

His legs are gone. He was favourite for a ball and Harte left him for dead.

Not sure he'll ever reach his top level again
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2018, 09:08:39 PM
Richie Hogan is needed earlier on the field for KK
Great decision making on the ball and a great man to win a free with a dip of the head into a 'high tackle'

His legs are gone. He was favourite for a ball and Harte left him for dead.

Not sure he'll ever reach his top level again

I think he was trying to be sarcastic about Hogan, one of the best hurlers over the past 10 plus years! Shame,  as he was one of my favourites
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 09, 2018, 11:55:22 PM
Richie Hogan is needed earlier on the field for KK
Great decision making on the ball and a great man to win a free with a dip of the head into a 'high tackle'

His legs are gone. He was favourite for a ball and Harte left him for dead.

Not sure he'll ever reach his top level again

I think he was trying to be sarcastic about Hogan, one of the best hurlers over the past 10 plus years! Shame,  as he was one of my favourites
Not sarcastic at all
I thought he changed both games when introduced
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on July 10, 2018, 11:33:05 AM
Richie Hogan is needed earlier on the field for KK
Great decision making on the ball and a great man to win a free with a dip of the head into a 'high tackle'

His legs are gone. He was favourite for a ball and Harte left him for dead.

Not sure he'll ever reach his top level again

I think he was trying to be sarcastic about Hogan, one of the best hurlers over the past 10 plus years! Shame,  as he was one of my favourites
Not sarcastic at all
I thought he changed both games when introduced

I get the impression he's not fit enough to start and Cody is using him as an impact sub. He'll need a good winter to get a bit of speed back into his legs as he was slow on Sunday.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 10, 2018, 11:37:16 AM
Richie Hogan is needed earlier on the field for KK
Great decision making on the ball and a great man to win a free with a dip of the head into a 'high tackle'

His legs are gone. He was favourite for a ball and Harte left him for dead.

Not sure he'll ever reach his top level again

I think he was trying to be sarcastic about Hogan, one of the best hurlers over the past 10 plus years! Shame,  as he was one of my favourites
Not sarcastic at all
I thought he changed both games when introduced

I get the impression he's not fit enough to start and Cody is using him as an impact sub. He'll need a good winter to get a bit of speed back into his legs as he was slow on Sunday.

He's past his peak, though his peak was a lot higher than most, so he'd be able to get to a level to most county hurlers but i just can't see it, Cody is bleeding in a new team..

Cant see him getting another winter training behind him, sadly
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 10, 2018, 11:47:08 AM
Richie Hogan is needed earlier on the field for KK
Great decision making on the ball and a great man to win a free with a dip of the head into a 'high tackle'

His legs are gone. He was favourite for a ball and Harte left him for dead.

Not sure he'll ever reach his top level again

I think he was trying to be sarcastic about Hogan, one of the best hurlers over the past 10 plus years! Shame,  as he was one of my favourites
Not sarcastic at all
I thought he changed both games when introduced
Every match has ebb and flow where one team is on top for a while and then the control shifts for another while.
Kilkenny never managed to get into the lead.
They are not efficient enough yet.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 10, 2018, 03:21:34 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0709/977486-ogrady-fresh-limerick-have-advantage-over-kilkenny/
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Roashter on July 10, 2018, 08:16:52 PM
How can the GAA justify bringing Wexford & Clare down to Cork on a Saturday @3:00?
Surely Thurles is more apt for this. Even Portlaois would have been better. I doubt if there'll be more than 16000 in Cork for this.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on July 11, 2018, 08:43:47 AM
How can the GAA justify bringing Wexford & Clare down to Cork on a Saturday @3:00?
Surely Thurles is more apt for this. Even Portlaois would have been better. I doubt if there'll be more than 16000 in Cork for this.

Big spanking new stadium needs games.

Clare and Wexford supporters expenses are just colateral in this one.

Allegedly they've a version of Hawkeye installed now in Cork and with some of the poor officiating last weekend it may well be needed.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 12, 2018, 05:45:36 PM
Tommy Walsh on Limerick v KK

https://youtu.be/QqLQ0TC9olQ
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on July 13, 2018, 03:50:56 PM
Tommy Walsh on Limerick v KK

https://youtu.be/QqLQ0TC9olQ


11:30

don't think that's our camogs in that picture, looks more like an adult team.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Capt Pat on July 14, 2018, 06:11:13 PM
Clare got the better of Wexford today 0-27 to 1-17. That puts Clare into the Croke Park semi final for the first time since 2013. It will be Galway up next which will be tough for Clare.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on July 15, 2018, 02:34:24 PM
Cats under pressure after a good start.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 15, 2018, 02:39:28 PM
HT

Kilkenny 0-12 Limerick 0-15
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 15, 2018, 03:07:46 PM
Bad miss from Limerick there, should have been a goal. Hope they don’t rue those goal chances

KK as bad as I’ve ever seen them
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on July 15, 2018, 03:16:39 PM
Kilkenny keeper has been superb but Limerick forwards shouldn’t have given him a sniff with some of them.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on July 15, 2018, 03:31:53 PM
Great stuff.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: The Wedger on July 15, 2018, 03:34:26 PM
Delighted for Limerick!
Great to see the stake in the heart of Kilkenny.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: SHEEDY on July 15, 2018, 03:34:42 PM
What a match.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on July 15, 2018, 03:41:07 PM
What a match.
Brilliant.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on July 15, 2018, 03:46:11 PM
Kilkenny out three weeks in a row and still a much fancied Limerick struggled to beat them!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: didlyi on July 15, 2018, 06:11:13 PM
But they did and when KK went ahead Limreick showed their real character. Although KK had so many wides they can thank the keeper for 5 great saves. Great match
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: spuds on July 15, 2018, 06:47:16 PM
Savage game, thought when Hogan got goal that Limerick were goosed but they showed some set to come back to win it the way they did. Donnelly and Leahy coming on for cats was almost crucial but Morrissey & co stood up to seal the deal. Be interesting how odds are for the semi against Cork.


Outright winners
Galway
10/11

Cork
10/3

Limerick
4/1

Clare
11/2
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 15, 2018, 09:46:03 PM
Richie Bennis  was on the last Limerick team to beat the cats in the championship in 1973. He lead Limerick to an All Ireland final against the hoors in 2007. Great day for Limerick hurling

https://youtu.be/_VdwA3MK4Dk
https://youtu.be/vggfWRrNHZQ
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: dec on July 16, 2018, 09:36:42 PM
Number of different Munster counties that have made the All Ireland semi-finals in the last 2 years : 5
Number of different Leinster counties that have made the All Ireland semi-finals in the last 2 years : 0
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 16, 2018, 09:58:19 PM
Number of different Munster counties that have made the All Ireland semi-finals in the last 2 years : 5
Number of different Leinster counties that have made the All Ireland semi-finals in the last 2 years : 0
Number of different Leinster counties that have made the All Ireland semi-finals in the last 2 years : 1
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: dec on July 16, 2018, 10:11:41 PM
Number of different Munster counties that have made the All Ireland semi-finals in the last 2 years : 5
Number of different Leinster counties that have made the All Ireland semi-finals in the last 2 years : 0
Number of different Leinster counties that have made the All Ireland semi-finals in the last 2 years : 1

I posted in the hurling board, did I really have to spell it out for you.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on July 16, 2018, 10:14:12 PM
Number of different Munster counties that have made the All Ireland semi-finals in the last 2 years : 5
Number of different Leinster counties that have made the All Ireland semi-finals in the last 2 years : 0
Number of different Leinster counties that have made the All Ireland semi-finals in the last 2 years : 1

I posted in the hurling board, did I really have to spell it out for you.
Unless he’s thrown Galway into Leinster.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 17, 2018, 09:52:19 AM
I’d fancy Limerick to beat Cork, they looked a tired team against Clare in the last round robin but they really stood up in the last 15 against KK

Not that I think it will happen but a Clare v Waterford final would be fantastic
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: clonadmad on July 17, 2018, 10:10:09 AM
I’d fancy Limerick to beat Cork, they looked a tired team against Clare in the last round robin but they really stood up in the last 15 against KK

Not that I think it will happen but a Clare v Waterford final would be fantastic

You should put the house on it
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 17, 2018, 10:19:19 AM
Limerick winning or a Limerick Clare final?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on July 17, 2018, 12:26:53 PM
Kilkenny keeper has been superb but Limerick forwards shouldn’t have given him a sniff with some of them.

Gillane's kick was heading right into the top corner. That's as majestic of a save as you're likely to see.

Big Hegarty did well to get a shot off, a good save but not a great save  ;D

Eoin Murphy is nailed on All star irrespective of what Nash does from now on in.


Limerick showed some cojones to come back from the Richie Hogan goal when in other years teams capitulated to the Kilkenny legendary status and whilst I think (Like Clare) Limerick go missing for long periods of time they've a very good set of forwards who were starved of ball due to fúcking about in the halfbacks and midfield on a wet, slippery day.
They'll not fear Cork and may just get another day out in the final. Cork won't miss those chances that Kilkenny put wide all the same.


Clare with Conlon reasonably well shackled (by fair means or foul) still got enough scores from elsewhere to win a game with Wexford being very disappointing. FFS die with your boots on rather than that ultra defensive nonsense when you're chasing a game. I just don't get it TBH.

Galway will have seen nothing to bother them and will be happy enough with Daithi Burke to go toe to toe with Conlon and stifle the ball coming in. Clare will need to up the stakes physically but they don't have the personnel to do it and I can see Galway win this one with 5 or 6 to spare.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 17, 2018, 12:39:19 PM
The big question is who is going to win a share of the next 4 or 5 all Irelands. KK still have work to do. Clare need to get organised. Limerick need more consistency. Are Waterford going to come back ? And Tipp?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: NAG1 on July 17, 2018, 12:45:45 PM
The big question is who is going to win a share of the next 4 or 5 all Irelands. KK still have work to do. Clare need to get organised. Limerick need more consistency. Are Waterford going to come back ? And Tipp?

Galway should be looking at the next 4/5 All Irelands and be licking their lips. The time is now with this team to make hay. Easily a cut above anything else that is out there at the minute, providing they play up to their form.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 17, 2018, 01:14:55 PM
I’d fancy Limerick to beat Cork, they looked a tired team against Clare in the last round robin but they really stood up in the last 15 against KK

Not that I think it will happen but a Clare v Waterford final would be fantastic

You should put the house on it

Limerick winning or a Limerick Clare final?
I think he's referring to you putting the house on a Clare v Waterford final.

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 17, 2018, 01:16:41 PM
The big question is who is going to win a share of the next 4 or 5 all Irelands. KK still have work to do. Clare need to get organised. Limerick need more consistency. Are Waterford going to come back ? And Tipp?

Galway should be looking at the next 4/5 All Irelands and be licking their lips. The time is now with this team to make hay. Easily a cut above anything else that is out there at the minute, providing they play up to their form.
No doubt. There isn't another county at present who you would say look like obvious consistent contenders. It's probably as likely that Kilkenny will return to the fore before any of the other counties organise themselves.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 17, 2018, 01:22:19 PM
The big question is who is going to win a share of the next 4 or 5 all Irelands. KK still have work to do. Clare need to get organised. Limerick need more consistency. Are Waterford going to come back ? And Tipp?

Cork might do it this year yet.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: mouview on July 17, 2018, 01:54:25 PM
The big question is who is going to win a share of the next 4 or 5 all Irelands. KK still have work to do. Clare need to get organised. Limerick need more consistency. Are Waterford going to come back ? And Tipp?

Galway should be looking at the next 4/5 All Irelands and be licking their lips. The time is now with this team to make hay. Easily a cut above anything else that is out there at the minute, providing they play up to their form.

Hope that it happens but this Galway team won't stay going forever, they've yet to prove they can do a 'KK' on it and win multiple times, and orchestra-conductor JC is not getting younger and has major miles on board now.

Future could definitely be Limericks with a proven underage supply line. By the same token maybe not KKs. Tipp' have great hurlers but mostly in attack and mightn't be the easiest bunch to manage. Cork maybe, but not yet there defensively or in midfield, and Meyler has yet to prove himself as manager. They have the flair though. Waterford's next manager is crucial because they definitely have nearly enough players; a new playing style might rejuvenate them. Clare, I expect to fall away soonish as they haven't enough squad-depth to compete strongly every year and not a lot coming through to bolster it. I think Dublin will make the top 3 next season in Leinster, maybe at WX's expense.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on July 17, 2018, 05:06:40 PM
The big question is who is going to win a share of the next 4 or 5 all Irelands. KK still have work to do. Clare need to get organised. Limerick need more consistency. Are Waterford going to come back ? And Tipp?

Galway should be looking at the next 4/5 All Irelands and be licking their lips. The time is now with this team to make hay. Easily a cut above anything else that is out there at the minute, providing they play up to their form.

It rarely works out like that though (unless you're Kilkenny). If Galway could mine another All-Ireland or two out of this current side I'd be absolutely delighted. They are not going to win 4 or even 3 of the next 5. Too many good sides out there and not easy to come back at the same level or better year after year.

Thankfully we have lots of young talent coming through but Canning will be gone after another couple of years IMO and he's not easily replaceable.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on July 17, 2018, 06:34:54 PM
There should be at least one and possibly two more AI’s in the current squad.  As a group, I think they would be disappointed if that goal wasn’t achieved.  Of course you need to be lucky with injuries to key players and to date we have been.  However, similar to the footballers, we don’t have much cover in the backs and losing the likes of Daithi or Gearoid Mac would be difficult.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on July 24, 2018, 03:53:29 PM
Looks like both games this weekend are going to be well attended with the Cork v Limerick game estimated at over 70K.

There'll be over 60k at the other one on the Saturday night as well I'd reckon.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on July 26, 2018, 11:38:20 AM
Cork are their cute hoorism;

http://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/288333 (http://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/288333)


Harnedy would be a big blow to them.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 26, 2018, 04:14:29 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0725/981013-richie-power-column/
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Sweeper 123 on July 26, 2018, 05:23:57 PM
I think Limerick will turnover cork;
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 26, 2018, 07:44:21 PM
I think Limerick will turnover cork;
I do too.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 26, 2018, 08:36:25 PM
Super Sunday, you never know with Cork in recent times so wouldnt write Limerick off just yet. Galway were a joy to watch in the replay but will need more goals which should help them to pip Clare.

By the way A Clare/limerick final would be sight to behold in Croke, even for the colour alone.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on July 27, 2018, 01:47:59 PM
Super Sunday, you never know with Cork in recent times so wouldnt write Limerick off just yet. Galway were a joy to watch in the replay but will need more goals which should help them to pip Clare.

By the way A Clare/limerick final would be sight to behold in Croke, even for the colour alone.

If Clare can get up to the level they played against Cork for the first 30 minutes in the Munster final and how to batten down the hatches when coming under sustained pressure they'll give a stuttering Galway a thing or two to think about.

If Galway are complacent in any way Clare might make them pay. O'Donoghue is normally good in that regard but the fans are expecting a win with no issues and that can feed into the players minds.

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on July 27, 2018, 02:51:09 PM
Super Sunday, you never know with Cork in recent times so wouldnt write Limerick off just yet. Galway were a joy to watch in the replay but will need more goals which should help them to pip Clare.

By the way A Clare/limerick final would be sight to behold in Croke, even for the colour alone.

If Clare can get up to the level they played against Cork for the first 30 minutes in the Munster final and how to batten down the hatches when coming under sustained pressure they'll give a stuttering Galway a thing or two to think about.

If Galway are complacent in any way Clare might make them pay. O'Donoghue is normally good in that regard but the fans are expecting a win with no issues and that can feed into the players minds.
No, we most certainly are not!  I expect that our backs are going to have their sternest test to date, tomorrow.  Will be interesting to see what 6 forwards we start with...............
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on July 28, 2018, 07:16:27 AM
GALWAY (SH v Clare):

J. Skehill, A. Tuohy, Daithi Burke, J. Hanbury, P. Mannion, G. McInerney, A. Harte, J. Coen, David Burke, J. Cooney, J. Canning, J. Glynn, C. Whelan, C. Cooney, C. Mannion.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Roashter on July 28, 2018, 10:44:31 AM
A serious amount of rain in Dublin for last 12 hours and no signs yet of it letting up -will have a big bearing on the game today
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on July 28, 2018, 05:12:54 PM
Clare like a rabbit in the headlights.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 28, 2018, 05:18:02 PM
All too easy for Galway look too physically strong for Clare.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on July 28, 2018, 05:22:04 PM
All too easy for Galway look too physically strong for Clare.

Looks like a senior team against a minor team, Clare getting absolutely bullied
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 28, 2018, 05:25:23 PM
Referee has decided to ignore the rules again

Clear shoulder into the back there
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on July 28, 2018, 05:26:07 PM
Playing their way into it a bit now. They’ve settled.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on July 28, 2018, 05:26:57 PM
Referee has decided to ignore the rules again

Clear shoulder into the back there
Came off Galway foot too I thought.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on July 28, 2018, 05:35:55 PM
Podge Collins couldn’t win a ball if you put it up his jumper. Needs replaced.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 28, 2018, 05:58:52 PM
Throw a lad over the sideline.
No free.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 28, 2018, 06:09:09 PM
Run straight into a Clare man, free to Galway
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on July 28, 2018, 06:13:38 PM
Have a feeling Clare could nick this!  :-\
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 28, 2018, 06:17:42 PM
Put someone taller on Glynn!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on July 28, 2018, 06:36:24 PM
Class!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: SHEEDY on July 28, 2018, 06:38:19 PM
Unreal stuff.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on July 28, 2018, 07:22:16 PM
Great game! Both teams will be relieved!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on July 28, 2018, 07:23:32 PM
90+ minutes this week,
Replay next week,
All Ireland final two weeks laterally.
Ridiculous scheduling.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 28, 2018, 07:27:46 PM
90+ minutes this week,
Replay next week,
All Ireland final two weeks laterally.
Ridiculous scheduling.
Is it because of that pope?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Sportacus on July 28, 2018, 07:52:35 PM
Another unbelievable game.  Is it not a bit of a shambles that the GAA can't legislate in advance for the possibility of a draw and be in a position immediately to announce replay details??  It's a bit of joke that they're sitting on the Saturday Game guessing and joking about it.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Duine Eile on July 28, 2018, 08:02:52 PM
Galway footballers playing Saturday evening, here's hoping they make a sensible decision about the replay!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: An Watcher on July 28, 2018, 08:05:12 PM
Tremendous game.  I'm sure Monaghan would be happy to play in Croker as opposed to Galway in a double header
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: SHEEDY on July 28, 2018, 08:07:51 PM
Galway footballers playing Saturday evening, here's hoping they make a sensible decision about the replay!
replay in semple next saturday at 2pm
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Duine Eile on July 28, 2018, 08:19:20 PM
Galway footballers playing Saturday evening, here's hoping they make a sensible decision about the replay!
replay in semple next saturday at 2pm

Replay on Sunday not Saturday, thankfully.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: SHEEDY on July 28, 2018, 08:34:37 PM
Galway footballers playing Saturday evening, here's hoping they make a sensible decision about the replay!
replay in semple next saturday at 2pm

Replay on Sunday not Saturday, thankfully.
yeah, sorry. sunday at 2pm.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on July 28, 2018, 08:36:37 PM
Galway footballers playing Saturday evening, here's hoping they make a sensible decision about the replay!
replay in semple next saturday at 2pm

Where’d you hear that? Is it confirmed?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Duine Eile on July 28, 2018, 08:43:46 PM
GAA twitter Mayo4Sam
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on July 28, 2018, 08:58:27 PM
GAA twitter Mayo4Sam

Thanks
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 28, 2018, 09:23:30 PM
What was the attendance in Croke Park today?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: armaghniac on July 28, 2018, 09:37:22 PM
What was the attendance in Croke Park today?

54000 I think. Brave few.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 29, 2018, 10:55:30 AM
Looking forward to the game today.

I think Limerick will win
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on July 29, 2018, 04:10:39 PM
Superb stuff again today.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Roashter on July 29, 2018, 04:13:19 PM
Overall Cork playing better, but their full back line in big trouble and they have had some terrible wides
Limerick look like they will score goals
Should be a good 2nd half
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 04:42:57 PM
Cork getting the decisions a lot softer imo
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 04:44:37 PM
Was wondering if Cork were ever going to get called for steps
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on July 29, 2018, 04:45:31 PM
Limerick in trouble. They’ve been struggling for a while here.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 04:50:36 PM
Limerick in trouble. They’ve been struggling for a while here.

Hitting far too many wides
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on July 29, 2018, 05:01:47 PM
Some finish here!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on July 29, 2018, 05:05:24 PM
Take a bow Quaid!
Unreal.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: SHEEDY on July 29, 2018, 05:11:19 PM
The ref is absolutely knackered  ;D what a finish by limerick. Cork look done.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: ONeill on July 29, 2018, 05:20:32 PM
This has to be scripted.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 05:32:46 PM
Another soft soft free for cork
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 29, 2018, 05:35:45 PM
Another soft soft free for cork
Chop on the hurley.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on July 29, 2018, 05:41:32 PM
Shane Dowling inspirational
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on July 29, 2018, 05:44:49 PM
What a fcukin goal!!

Game over.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 29, 2018, 05:49:41 PM
Some finish on that 3rd Limerick goal. Fair play to Limerick they had to take a lot on the chin over the years and wouldn't it be great if they go on to win the All Ireland now.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: gerrykeegan on July 29, 2018, 06:38:41 PM
They went out to 7/1 at one stage. Raging I didn't have a punt on them
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Capt Pat on July 29, 2018, 06:53:03 PM
It could be a Clare versus Limerick final.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: shantygael on July 29, 2018, 08:01:58 PM
Doesn't matter who is in it at this stage,(for the neutral)it will be a novel pairing.if it is half as good as the semis it will be a cracker
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 29, 2018, 08:22:02 PM
Hope Limerick go on and win it out now. It's great none of the big 3 are there for the second year in a row.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: SHEEDY on July 29, 2018, 08:27:26 PM
Hope Limerick go on and win it out now. It's great none of the big 3 are there for the second year in a row.
would love to see clare win it but i think galway might be just too strong for them the next day out.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Minder on July 29, 2018, 08:40:23 PM
Hope Limerick go on and win it out now. It's great none of the big 3 are there for the second year in a row.

Limerick have beaten all three
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on July 29, 2018, 10:40:56 PM
Hope Limerick go on and win it out now. It's great none of the big 3 are there for the second year in a row.
would love to see clare win it but i think galway might be just too strong for them the next day out.

Galway need to check on the walking wounded before they can see off Clare.
McInerney may be a bigger loss than Canning, sacrilege I know, Galway really missed him when he went off. They were very open defensively when he exited the stage.
Would have kept Conor Whelan on the field though.

Clare will grow in confidence from Saturday, with Shanagher and Conlon causing problems when the ball was given in early. First touch in general from Clare was poor in general.
Limerick will fear neither with the extra weeks rest .
I was all for a compressed championship but maybe a wee tweek is required.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 29, 2018, 11:40:08 PM
Ur right on McInerney, huge loss. Galway have nobody really to replace him, IMO he’s the one irreplaceable on that team
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on July 29, 2018, 11:44:10 PM
They’ll be doing well to replace Canning mind you.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 30, 2018, 07:28:27 AM
Hope Limerick go on and win it out now. It's great none of the big 3 are there for the second year in a row.
would love to see clare win it but i think galway might be just too strong for them the next day out.

Galway need to check on the walking wounded before they can see off Clare.
McInerney may be a bigger loss than Canning, sacrilege I know, Galway really missed him when he went off. They were very open defensively when he exited the stage.
Would have kept Conor Whelan on the field though.

Clare will grow in confidence from Saturday, with Shanagher and Conlon causing problems when the ball was given in early. First touch in general from Clare was poor in general.
Limerick will fear neither with the extra weeks rest .
I was all for a compressed championship but maybe a wee tweek is required.
I don't think they considered injuries in the masterplan.

Also Cork have been quite disappointing in the last few years.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2018, 08:10:52 AM
Hope Limerick go on and win it out now. It's great none of the big 3 are there for the second year in a row.
would love to see clare win it but i think galway might be just too strong for them the next day out.

Galway need to check on the walking wounded before they can see off Clare.
McInerney may be a bigger loss than Canning, sacrilege I know, Galway really missed him when he went off. They were very open defensively when he exited the stage.
Would have kept Conor Whelan on the field though.

Clare will grow in confidence from Saturday, with Shanagher and Conlon causing problems when the ball was given in early. First touch in general from Clare was poor in general.
Limerick will fear neither with the extra weeks rest .
I was all for a compressed championship but maybe a wee tweek is required.
I don't think they considered injuries in the masterplan.

Also Cork have been quite disappointing in the last few years.

Back to back Munster titles, poor? Unlucky yesterday, should have had the game won, only for the introduction of Shane Cork would have won!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: mouview on July 30, 2018, 09:52:33 AM
Ur right on McInerney, huge loss. Galway have nobody really to replace him, IMO he’s the one irreplaceable on that team

Wouldn't say irreplaceable, but it needs a bit of rejigging around, something not easy to do during the course of a game. Could see Padraig Mannion no. 6 the next day. Canning still a huge loss for his placed-balls acumen, score-taking and score-making. Could also be more injuries too :-(
One of these you might just get away with.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 30, 2018, 09:59:52 AM
Hope Limerick go on and win it out now. It's great none of the big 3 are there for the second year in a row.
would love to see clare win it but i think galway might be just too strong for them the next day out.

Galway need to check on the walking wounded before they can see off Clare.
McInerney may be a bigger loss than Canning, sacrilege I know, Galway really missed him when he went off. They were very open defensively when he exited the stage.
Would have kept Conor Whelan on the field though.

Clare will grow in confidence from Saturday, with Shanagher and Conlon causing problems when the ball was given in early. First touch in general from Clare was poor in general.
Limerick will fear neither with the extra weeks rest .
I was all for a compressed championship but maybe a wee tweek is required.
I don't think they considered injuries in the masterplan.

Also Cork have been quite disappointing in the last few years.

Back to back Munster titles, poor? Unlucky yesterday, should have had the game won, only for the introduction of Shane Cork would have won!
Back to back Munster winners and semi final losers.
Haven't won an all Ireland since 05
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on July 30, 2018, 10:01:56 AM
I think we might get a repeat of 94-98 if we are lucky with the old firm shunted out of contention and the lesser counties winning a few all Irelands.
A Limerick all Ireland would be fantastic for the game.
Nice contrast with the football as well.

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: trailer on July 30, 2018, 10:02:29 AM
What's the view on Cork's fitness? They had Limerick where they wanted them going into the last 10 but couldn't get those couple of scores to stem the Limerick onslaught. They were out on their feet in extra time. Limerick had serious impact from the bench and Shane Dowling who I only heard of after watching the Na Piarsaigh AI SF win and his wonder goal, is a serious player. A huge effort to push them on and seems like a real leader given his interview afterwards.

Have to say the hurling championship has been immense this year. Serious games and serious commitment from the teams.

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2018, 10:29:22 AM
What's the view on Cork's fitness? They had Limerick where they wanted them going into the last 10 but couldn't get those couple of scores to stem the Limerick onslaught. They were out on their feet in extra time. Limerick had serious impact from the bench and Shane Dowling who I only heard of after watching the Na Piarsaigh AI SF win and his wonder goal, is a serious player. A huge effort to push them on and seems like a real leader given his interview afterwards.

Have to say the hurling championship has been immense this year. Serious games and serious commitment from the teams.

Dowling has been oustanding for NP and Limerick for a few years now, bad injury and of late and only coming back to fitness, is class though is up with the best
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on July 30, 2018, 11:00:15 AM
They’ll be doing well to replace Canning mind you.

I'd need to watch it back but he wasn't that overly involved in open play on first review. two line balls over the bar and deadly from frees all the same.
The lack of fresh faces in the Galway team could be their undoing although got a few run outs in the league, only Sean Loftus would be new to the larger hurling public at this level.

In Cork another Munster championship won't be enough when they see a Clare/Galway/Limerick man lifting the Liam McCarthy in a few weeks time. They expect and demand to be challenging for top honours. Last year was tolerated as it was their first time back at that level and competing.
This year they were aiming for the big one.

They have fine hurlers in their ranks, the touch and control of the likes of Lehane, Horgan, Fitzgibbon and even Harnedy is a thing of beauty and their shooting by and large is unreal.
BUT they lack two things;
A serious goal threat, a big aerial winning full forward who can bustle his way to goal (Think Conlon, Guillane, Flynn, Dowling, Shanagher, Duggan, Joe Cooney)
And
A defence able and capable of stopping a big, aerial winning full forward like those mentioned above.

They dominated large parts of that game yesterday but never were able to land the killer blow.

There'll be a novel pairing in the AI final anyways so that is good.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: shark on July 30, 2018, 11:57:27 AM
They’ll be doing well to replace Canning mind you.

I'd need to watch it back but he wasn't that overly involved in open play on first review. two line balls over the bar and deadly from frees all the same.
The lack of fresh faces in the Galway team could be their undoing although got a few run outs in the league, only Sean Loftus would be new to the larger hurling public at this level.

In Cork another Munster championship won't be enough when they see a Clare/Galway/Limerick man lifting the Liam McCarthy in a few weeks time. They expect and demand to be challenging for top honours. Last year was tolerated as it was their first time back at that level and competing.
This year they were aiming for the big one.

They have fine hurlers in their ranks, the touch and control of the likes of Lehane, Horgan, Fitzgibbon and even Harnedy is a thing of beauty and their shooting by and large is unreal.
BUT they lack two things;
A serious goal threat, a big aerial winning full forward who can bustle his way to goal (Think Conlon, Guillane, Flynn, Dowling, Shanagher, Duggan, Joe Cooney)
And
A defence able and capable of stopping a big, aerial winning full forward like those mentioned above.

They dominated large parts of that game yesterday but never were able to land the killer blow.

There'll be a novel pairing in the AI final anyways so that is good.

That is becoming a common theme for teams playing against Clare. Cleary doesn't hurl a huge amount of ball for a no6, but he is unusually sticky for a player playing in that position. His man tends to have a hard time getting on much ball. It must be the fact that he's a footballer playing hurling!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on July 30, 2018, 02:08:48 PM
Limerick will fear neither with the extra weeks rest .

Limerick had no fear travelling to Ennis for round robin game.  Granted they didn't have an extra  week's rest but with a Munster final a stake they didn't shine.  Once they realize that Clare wouldn't wilt to physical stuff their plan B was pure containment of John Conlon.

If Clare get through the All-Ireland is a derby game.  Derby games seldom follow form.

/Jim.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on July 30, 2018, 02:35:36 PM
Limerick will fear neither with the extra weeks rest .

Limerick had no fear travelling to Ennis for round robin game.  Granted they didn't have an extra  week's rest but with a Munster final a stake they didn't shine.  Once they realize that Clare wouldn't wilt to physical stuff their plan B was pure containment of John Conlon.

If Clare get through the All-Ireland is a derby game.  Derby games seldom follow form.

/Jim.

In that game in particular I think the Limerick management over thought the situation in taking off a forward and bringing on a defender to sweep in front of Conlon and you playing with the wind. They handed the impetus to Clare with that move.
You'd have hoped they've learned from it.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on July 30, 2018, 02:43:11 PM
Limerick will fear neither with the extra weeks rest .

Limerick had no fear travelling to Ennis for round robin game.  Granted they didn't have an extra  week's rest but with a Munster final a stake they didn't shine.  Once they realize that Clare wouldn't wilt to physical stuff their plan B was pure containment of John Conlon.

If Clare get through the All-Ireland is a derby game.  Derby games seldom follow form.

/Jim.

In that game in particular I think the Limerick management over thought the situation in taking off a forward and bringing on a defender to sweep in front of Conlon and you playing with the wind. They handed the impetus to Clare with that move.
You'd have hoped they've learned from it.

It may have been a factor but also Cian Lynch, Seamus Flanagan and Kyle Hayes in particular did not cope well with Clare's close attention that day.  Remember too that the sweeper was a result of the hay Conlon was making prior to that.  Something had to change either way.  Richie Mc Carthy alone wasn't the answer either.

/Jim.



Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on July 31, 2018, 04:28:52 PM
Geroid McInerney looking to be out with a torn calf muscle. If that's true no amount of cryotherapy or religious relics are going to work and Galway are down a key man.

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on August 03, 2018, 01:37:15 PM
Article on Clare tactics for the next day. Reminded me of 86 . Galway played a 2 man full forward line in the semi final that worked very well. They also used it in the final and got beaten.

 https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/ger-sparrow-oloughlin-warns-clare-about-redeploying-sweeper-in-replay-37173073.html
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 01:48:16 PM
Deploying a sweeper will help but they wont win you the game as such, the sweeper is putting the ball back into their sweeper, the team with the best players who can shoot from distance will win this game, short puck outs to the spare man and then by passing the sweeper takes him out of the game..

Teams/management should be very clued into such going ons as they are happening and put their own tactic in place to prevent the sweeper clearing up loose ball..

I would be a fan of it if/when we played teams that would have hammered us 15 on 15, it helped build confidence and kept the game tight, wasnt pretty and requires a nippy set of forwards and a clever player to sweep in and make good clearances to the forwards..

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on August 03, 2018, 01:53:59 PM
Deploying a sweeper will help but they wont win you the game as such, the sweeper is putting the ball back into their sweeper, the team with the best players who can shoot from distance will win this game, short puck outs to the spare man and then by passing the sweeper takes him out of the game..

Teams/management should be very clued into such going ons as they are happening and put their own tactic in place to prevent the sweeper clearing up loose ball..

I would be a fan of it if/when we played teams that would have hammered us 15 on 15, it helped build confidence and kept the game tight, wasnt pretty and requires a nippy set of forwards and a clever player to sweep in and make good clearances to the forwards..

That's just it though. Galway initially were lording it over Clare just by pumping direct ball into their forwards and working from there. Galvin drops back in there and he starts hovering up those balls but avoids the defacto spare man in Harte who did very little.
Galway still persisted with going long and straight too often in the second half and Clare were able to cut it off.

Hard to see Galway being as naive again.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2018, 02:34:30 PM
Deploying a sweeper will help but they wont win you the game as such, the sweeper is putting the ball back into their sweeper, the team with the best players who can shoot from distance will win this game, short puck outs to the spare man and then by passing the sweeper takes him out of the game..

Teams/management should be very clued into such going ons as they are happening and put their own tactic in place to prevent the sweeper clearing up loose ball..

I would be a fan of it if/when we played teams that would have hammered us 15 on 15, it helped build confidence and kept the game tight, wasnt pretty and requires a nippy set of forwards and a clever player to sweep in and make good clearances to the forwards..

That's just it though. Galway initially were lording it over Clare just by pumping direct ball into their forwards and working from there. Galvin drops back in there and he starts hovering up those balls but avoids the defacto spare man in Harte who did very little.
Galway still persisted with going long and straight too often in the second half and Clare were able to cut it off.

Hard to see Galway being as naive again.

Whats your take then? move in a better sweeper or push a player up to their sweeper? or shoot from distance ?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on August 03, 2018, 02:36:19 PM
Deploying a sweeper will help but they wont win you the game as such, the sweeper is putting the ball back into their sweeper, the team with the best players who can shoot from distance will win this game, short puck outs to the spare man and then by passing the sweeper takes him out of the game..

Teams/management should be very clued into such going ons as they are happening and put their own tactic in place to prevent the sweeper clearing up loose ball..

I would be a fan of it if/when we played teams that would have hammered us 15 on 15, it helped build confidence and kept the game tight, wasnt pretty and requires a nippy set of forwards and a clever player to sweep in and make good clearances to the forwards..

That's just it though. Galway initially were lording it over Clare just by pumping direct ball into their forwards and working from there. Galvin drops back in there and he starts hovering up those balls but avoids the defacto spare man in Harte who did very little.
Galway still persisted with going long and straight too often in the second half and Clare were able to cut it off.

Hard to see Galway being as naive again.

Whats your take then? move in a better sweeper or push a player up to their sweeper? or shoot from distance ?
Galway had a lot of wides. When they are playing well they are far more accurate, even from distance
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on August 03, 2018, 03:56:30 PM
Deploying a sweeper will help but they wont win you the game as such, the sweeper is putting the ball back into their sweeper, the team with the best players who can shoot from distance will win this game, short puck outs to the spare man and then by passing the sweeper takes him out of the game..

Teams/management should be very clued into such going ons as they are happening and put their own tactic in place to prevent the sweeper clearing up loose ball..

I would be a fan of it if/when we played teams that would have hammered us 15 on 15, it helped build confidence and kept the game tight, wasnt pretty and requires a nippy set of forwards and a clever player to sweep in and make good clearances to the forwards..

That's just it though. Galway initially were lording it over Clare just by pumping direct ball into their forwards and working from there. Galvin drops back in there and he starts hovering up those balls but avoids the defacto spare man in Harte who did very little.
Galway still persisted with going long and straight too often in the second half and Clare were able to cut it off.

Hard to see Galway being as naive again.

Whats your take then? move in a better sweeper or push a player up to their sweeper? or shoot from distance ?
Galway had a lot of wides. When they are playing well they are far more accurate, even from distance

I think I saw somewhere that they hit high teens wides but Clare also were well up on the wides count. Hawkeye was used at least three times that decisions went against Galway, fine margins.

If Clare do go for Galvin in front of Glynn (I don't think they will straight off the bat) then Galway need to feed the wings as much as possible or maybe work it up the field to the midfield area and beyond and pick off the points to give Clare a decision to make wrt Galvin. Conor Whelan,Cathal Mannion, Cooney and the Burkes need to start dominating on the wings and trouble the scoreboard operator a lot more.
As much was Galvin was defensively cutting out a lot of ball he also was using it very well in an attacking sense. He gave an exhibition on how to play that role, but Galway won't want to make a hero out of him two games in a row.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on August 03, 2018, 04:28:30 PM
Deploying a sweeper will help but they wont win you the game as such, the sweeper is putting the ball back into their sweeper, the team with the best players who can shoot from distance will win this game, short puck outs to the spare man and then by passing the sweeper takes him out of the game..

Teams/management should be very clued into such going ons as they are happening and put their own tactic in place to prevent the sweeper clearing up loose ball..

I would be a fan of it if/when we played teams that would have hammered us 15 on 15, it helped build confidence and kept the game tight, wasnt pretty and requires a nippy set of forwards and a clever player to sweep in and make good clearances to the forwards..

That's just it though. Galway initially were lording it over Clare just by pumping direct ball into their forwards and working from there. Galvin drops back in there and he starts hovering up those balls but avoids the defacto spare man in Harte who did very little.
Galway still persisted with going long and straight too often in the second half and Clare were able to cut it off.

Hard to see Galway being as naive again.

Whats your take then? move in a better sweeper or push a player up to their sweeper? or shoot from distance ?
Galway had a lot of wides. When they are playing well they are far more accurate, even from distance

I think I saw somewhere that they hit high teens wides but Clare also were well up on the wides count. Hawkeye was used at least three times that decisions went against Galway, fine margins.

If Clare do go for Galvin in front of Glynn (I don't think they will straight off the bat) then Galway need to feed the wings as much as possible or maybe work it up the field to the midfield area and beyond and pick off the points to give Clare a decision to make wrt Galvin. Conor Whelan,Cathal Mannion, Cooney and the Burkes need to start dominating on the wings and trouble the scoreboard operator a lot more.
As much was Galvin was defensively cutting out a lot of ball he also was using it very well in an attacking sense. He gave an exhibition on how to play that role, but Galway won't want to make a hero out of him two games in a row.
We had 22 wides, 12 of those alone were in the 1st half - Clare had about 19 also I think.  The surprise really is how badly we managed the sweeper when you consider we played against one in nearly every game last year!  It seems the adjustment by Clare after 15mins caught our Mgt Team off guard and they never addressed it properly - we were really too one dimensional with the long ball down on top of Glynn thereafter.  I expect we will vary it a lot more this weekend and I do think we will have a little too much for Clare this time round - should be another great game.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on August 03, 2018, 05:12:05 PM
Galway mgmt are good at analysing where things went wrong.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2018, 03:58:58 PM
Under 21 semi on now tg4, Cork big favourites
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on August 04, 2018, 05:20:55 PM
Shootie in.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2018, 05:34:42 PM
Shootie in.

Cork had a few senior players on that team..

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 04, 2018, 05:39:54 PM
Canning & McInerney both starting. Galway unchanged or a bluff?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Minder on August 05, 2018, 02:34:46 PM
Ref riding Galway
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: thewobbler on August 05, 2018, 02:42:07 PM
Ref riding Galway

Other way around surely.


I wonder if any of the SG panel will be straight enough to call this one a rubbish match.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2018, 02:55:52 PM
the ref better to clare than to galway which is a good job. Like the first game should have been this one seems over early.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2018, 03:08:25 PM
game on
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: gallsman on August 05, 2018, 03:08:28 PM
Some goal from O'Donnell. Clare somehow back in it after all their wides.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on August 05, 2018, 03:11:58 PM
Wobbler on a hurling thread?

Oh right, the first half of a game wasn’t great.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: gallsman on August 05, 2018, 03:16:24 PM
Cracking finish there from Duggan after the awful free.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 05, 2018, 03:26:34 PM
Galway are such a frustrating team to watch.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: thewobbler on August 05, 2018, 03:39:11 PM
Wobbler on a hurling thread?

Oh right, the first half of a game wasn’t great.

Second half was much better in fairness.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: gallsman on August 05, 2018, 03:41:41 PM
The excitement of that masked some really poor hurling at times. Enjoyable though and should be a great final.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: mrdeeds on August 05, 2018, 03:44:53 PM
Some goal from O'Donnell. Clare somehow back in it after all their wides.

Steps and fouled the sliotar.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on August 05, 2018, 03:54:04 PM
Great result and wonderful to be back in the final again - Limerick will be a savavge challenge but that’s for another day.  We were absolutely rode rock solid by Horgan in that game, especially in the 1st half - dreadful referring at times.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2018, 03:58:05 PM
Some goal from O'Donnell. Clare somehow back in it after all their wides.

Steps and fouled the sliotar.

Just watched it again, ref played advantage from the foul and he didn’t foul the sliotar
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Minder on August 05, 2018, 03:58:44 PM
Great result and wonderful to be back in the final again - Limerick will be a savavge challenge but that’s for another day.  We were absolutely rode rock solid by Horgan in that game, especially in the 1st half - dreadful referring at times.

Yeah agree about Horgan
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: mrdeeds on August 05, 2018, 04:22:47 PM
Some goal from O'Donnell. Clare somehow back in it after all their wides.

Steps and fouled the sliotar.

Just watched it again, ref played advantage from the foul and he didn’t foul the sliotar

You can't overcarry on advantage.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2018, 05:13:38 PM
Some goal from O'Donnell. Clare somehow back in it after all their wides.

Steps and fouled the sliotar.

Just watched it again, ref played advantage from the foul and he didn’t foul the sliotar

You can't overcarry on advantage.

Count the steps
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on August 05, 2018, 06:24:57 PM
Super win. Being on top is about grinding out results regardless of the optics.  Clare will be sickened with all the wides. They have real class in that team.
In 16 and 17 the real final was the semi. Wonder will it be the same this year.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 05, 2018, 07:17:00 PM
Super win. Being on top is about grinding out results regardless of the optics.  Clare will be sickened with all the wides. They have real class in that team.
In 16 and 17 the real final was the semi. Wonder will it be the same this year.

Jaysus, sickening arrogance.


Limerick are delighted Clare were beaten. They think they match up well with Galway. They don't like Clare's running game.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2018, 08:15:37 PM
To be fair SF is not your typical Galway fan AZ so I doubt the majority feel like that. Limerick are probably a better team than Clare.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on August 05, 2018, 08:42:13 PM
They’re usually a lot better than Clare were today anyway. It wasn’t just their shooting. They were so sloppy. First touch was off, passing askew and often 2nd to the ball. That they were in with a shout at the end of that game was quite remarkable.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on August 05, 2018, 08:57:15 PM
Super win. Being on top is about grinding out results regardless of the optics.  Clare will be sickened with all the wides. They have real class in that team.
In 16 and 17 the real final was the semi. Wonder will it be the same this year.
Limerick are a better team than Clare IMHO and we will have our hands full with them in the final - it will be one hell of a physical encounter - 50:50 game
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: galwayman on August 05, 2018, 09:28:22 PM
Has the makings of a cracking final.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on August 05, 2018, 09:44:00 PM
Psychologically it will be interesting. After the 73 All Ireland Limerick had 7. Galway had one. Limerick had some very good hurlers since then but the gap is now 2.  Limerick have to get over the reason they haven’t won since 1973 in order to win the next day.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2018, 09:48:13 PM
They’re usually a lot better than Clare were today anyway. It wasn’t just their shooting. They were so sloppy. First touch was off, passing askew and often 2nd to the ball. That they were in with a shout at the end of that game was quite remarkable.
Yeah and in the end they blew it. Galway should really have put them away convincingly both days but hitting the post and that Duggan free should have won them it.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Capt Pat on August 05, 2018, 09:53:54 PM
Clare had 19 wides to 13 for Galway. That statistic shows the difference between the teams. However something I would look at is why Podge Collins was given 63 minutes to score one point while Shanagher was given only the remainder of the game to make an impact. Shanagher at this point in time looks a much more effective scoring forward. I don't really see what Podge offers to be honest.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: sid waddell on August 05, 2018, 09:54:53 PM
Limerick have all the ingredients needed to beat Galway. It's just a question of whether they're ready yet.

I think might be.

Today was the third game in a row that Galway started brilliantly but let the opposition back into the game. I don't think they'll be getting any big lead against Limerick and I think Limerick will be able to stand up to them physically. Limerick play a nice mix and match style - they can run it and they can go long, they have the hurling and the have the fight, and I fancy their full forward line could cause serious problems for the Galway backs. Great bench too.

Clare really blew that today - for me they were the more dominant team in both games and should have closed it out, particularly today. A sickening defeat for them. Chances like that are rare, especially now with Munster being an absolute bear pit.

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: sid waddell on August 05, 2018, 10:03:48 PM
Clare had 19 wides to 13 for Galway. That statistic shows the difference between the teams. However something I would look at is why Podge Collins was given 63 minutes to score one point while Shanagher was given only the remainder of the game to make an impact. Shanagher at this point in time looks a much more effective scoring forward. I don't really see what Podge offers to be honest.
I'd rate Aaron Cunningham higher than him too - he's in the US at the moment though.

Podge has been living off past glories for a long time. Everything seemed to come together for him in '13 but he's been a shadow of that ever since.

Tony Kelly has too to a lesser extent. Kelly had a bit of a nightmare today. He wasted two balls in the last minute of injury time alone. Instead of calmly working through the field as Clare did for their equaliser at the end of the first game, Kelly just launched it and it went wide. He's a phenomenal player at his best but he's far too inconsistent and Clare don't seem to know how to get the best from him.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on August 05, 2018, 10:05:12 PM
Clare had 19 wides to 13 for Galway. That statistic shows the difference between the teams. However something I would look at is why Podge Collins was given 63 minutes to score one point while Shanagher was given only the remainder of the game to make an impact. Shanagher at this point in time looks a much more effective scoring forward. I don't really see what Podge offers to be honest.
Both games Collins was poor. Galway backs far too physical for him to make an impact. Simply too small and couldn’t win any battle for possession.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on August 05, 2018, 10:08:08 PM
Kelly sometimes strikes me as a luxury player. The last day I felt that McInerney made hay because they gave Kelly a roving position meaning McInerney could clean a lot of ball up. On his day though he is fantastic. Perhaps would be better in a WHF position and maybe they haven't found the best place for him like you say.

Collins was better today than the first day but I do wonder if that knee injury he had has slowed him down as I am not entirely convinced he is up to the pace of that standard of hurling.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 06, 2018, 02:10:15 AM
Very proud of the hurlers. Including replay's this will be their 5th All-Ireland final in 7 years for some of them. Not an old side by any means but some of them do have milage in those legs. A seriously tough outfit though. The amount of tight games they win is crazy. Is that 4 All-Ireland semi-finals won by a point now? And they lost one by a point as well.

I think Limerick will be tipped by many and I wouldn't blame them but they won't get anything easy on AI final day. You can be sure of that.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 06, 2018, 02:15:43 AM
Clare really blew that today - for me they were the more dominant team in both games and should have closed it out, particularly today.

The led for around 1 minute over 160+ minutes of hurling. I mean it was close but they were pretty much always playing catch up.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on August 06, 2018, 05:18:01 AM
Limerick have all the ingredients needed to beat Galway. It's just a question of whether they're ready yet.

I think might be.

Today was the third game in a row that Galway started brilliantly but let the opposition back into the game. I don't think they'll be getting any big lead against Limerick and I think Limerick will be able to stand up to them physically. Limerick play a nice mix and match style - they can run it and they can go long, they have the hurling and the have the fight, and I fancy their full forward line could cause serious problems for the Galway backs. Great bench too.

Clare really blew that today - for me they were the more dominant team in both games and should have closed it out, particularly today. A sickening defeat for them. Chances like that are rare, especially now with Munster being an absolute bear pit.

Clare reminded me of Mayo in their finals with the Dubs which were also lost by one point. You have to convert chances in the last 10 Minutes. One point can be a chasm. For years Galway were in the other seat, psychologically weaker,never sure they could hold on until the end. Clare are very talented but they have more work to do.

Munster is 3/5 qualifiers under the new system so easier than winner takes all or Munster finalists only
 
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 06, 2018, 07:46:15 AM
Joe Canning carried Galway yesterday.
Everytime he got the ball he won a free
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on August 06, 2018, 09:55:12 AM
Clare had 19 wides to 13 for Galway. That statistic shows the difference between the teams. However something I would look at is why Podge Collins was given 63 minutes to score one point while Shanagher was given only the remainder of the game to make an impact. Shanagher at this point in time looks a much more effective scoring forward. I don't really see what Podge offers to be honest.
I'd rate Aaron Cunningham higher than him too - he's in the US at the moment though.

Podge has been living off past glories for a long time. Everything seemed to come together for him in '13 but he's been a shadow of that ever since.

Tony Kelly has too to a lesser extent. Kelly had a bit of a nightmare today. He wasted two balls in the last minute of injury time alone. Instead of calmly working through the field as Clare did for their equaliser at the end of the first game, Kelly just launched it and it went wide. He's a phenomenal player at his best but he's far too inconsistent and Clare don't seem to know how to get the best from him.

Shanagher is only back from a cruciate injury, probably ahead of schedule so if he gets a good winter into his legs and with the likes of Cunningham and Oisin O'Brien to add to the mix then Clare will be no push overs either.

Collins and McGrath seem to have lost their mojo and are hurling at too slow of a pace to compete. Size doesn't seem to bother Shane O'Donnell too much and brushed off Hanbury again yesterday with in close proximity.

Clare still lacking someone in midfield IMO. Kelly needs a horse of a man in beside him if he's playing midfield to do the spade work which Kelly isn't keen on.

Remembering Limerick were third in Munster yet are 70 minutes away from an AI. Still think Galway if they can freshen up and recover will in the next two weeks will have the mark off them. Limerick still a bit green on it at this level.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Minder on August 06, 2018, 10:32:36 AM
Think Hanbury will be targeted by Limerick, thought he was poor yesterday and can be got at.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2018, 11:33:29 AM
Clare had 19 wides to 13 for Galway. That statistic shows the difference between the teams. However something I would look at is why Podge Collins was given 63 minutes to score one point while Shanagher was given only the remainder of the game to make an impact. Shanagher at this point in time looks a much more effective scoring forward. I don't really see what Podge offers to be honest.
I'd rate Aaron Cunningham higher than him too - he's in the US at the moment though.

Podge has been living off past glories for a long time. Everything seemed to come together for him in '13 but he's been a shadow of that ever since.

Tony Kelly has too to a lesser extent. Kelly had a bit of a nightmare today. He wasted two balls in the last minute of injury time alone. Instead of calmly working through the field as Clare did for their equaliser at the end of the first game, Kelly just launched it and it went wide. He's a phenomenal player at his best but he's far too inconsistent and Clare don't seem to know how to get the best from him.

Shanagher is only back from a cruciate injury, probably ahead of schedule so if he gets a good winter into his legs and with the likes of Cunningham and Oisin O'Brien to add to the mix then Clare will be no push overs either.

Collins and McGrath seem to have lost their mojo and are hurling at too slow of a pace to compete. Size doesn't seem to bother Shane O'Donnell too much and brushed off Hanbury again yesterday with in close proximity.

Clare still lacking someone in midfield IMO. Kelly needs a horse of a man in beside him if he's playing midfield to do the spade work which Kelly isn't keen on.

Remembering Limerick were third in Munster yet are 70 minutes away from an AI. Still think Galway if they can freshen up and recover will in the next two weeks will have the mark off them. Limerick still a bit green on it at this level.

Don'y know if two weeks will be enough for the walking wounded in Galway, Canning looks to be carrying a knock and the extra minutes will certainly take it's toll, Galway are letting teams catch them at the end of games and that will hurt them..

Once a team has a bit of momentuem then they are very hard to stop and sticking 5 points without reply wouldnt be difficult for Limerick once Galway go into reverse.. Its going to be a cracking final, tactics will go out the window and it will be end to end, won't be one for the purist's I'd say
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Minder on August 06, 2018, 12:05:35 PM
If it’s just knocks and fatigue for Galway two weeks will be fine, a week to come down and a week to get up
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on August 06, 2018, 12:56:47 PM
The new schedule is very hard on players. More matches and less time. Does hurling even need a round robin? It was in response to the Super 8. Did the super 8 work ?  Playing the AIF in mid August is nuts
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on August 06, 2018, 02:29:33 PM
The new schedule is very hard on players. More matches and less time. Does hurling even need a round robin? It was in response to the Super 8. Did the super 8 work ?  Playing the AIF in mid August is nuts

I'd disagree with most of that.

Players have been crying out for more games and less training. The ratio is now far better in that regard.

AI finals in mid August give club championships an extra two or three weeks of summer time to get played with the likelihood of decent weather and dryer pitches can only be a good thing. Hurling doesn't stop when the IC game comes to an end like Brehony and his ilk think. Start covering the club championships lads of the press. You might find there's an audience out there for it.

Yes, tweak it slightly but what we've seen this summer has been good for hurling in general.

Maybe run the other lower championship games off as precursors to the main events would also give hurling down the ranks a bigger boost on the back of the elite game.

Whether the Super 8 works in football or not is immaterial to hurling where the two round robin championships worked well IMO.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 06, 2018, 03:52:46 PM
The new schedule is very hard on players. More matches and less time. Does hurling even need a round robin? It was in response to the Super 8. Did the super 8 work ?  Playing the AIF in mid August is nuts

I'd disagree with most of that.

Players have been crying out for more games and less training. The ratio is now far better in that regard.

AI finals in mid August give club championships an extra two or three weeks of summer time to get played with the likelihood of decent weather and dryer pitches can only be a good thing. Hurling doesn't stop when the IC game comes to an end like Brehony and his ilk think. Start covering the club championships lads of the press. You might find there's an audience out there for it.

Yes, tweak it slightly but what we've seen this summer has been good for hurling in general.

Maybe run the other lower championship games off as precursors to the main events would also give hurling down the ranks a bigger boost on the back of the elite game.

Whether the Super 8 works in football or not is immaterial to hurling where the two round robin championships worked well IMO.

Johnny, I think this may be a first on this site, but I agree with *all * of your post. Not most of it, all of it.

The tweak I would insert is a week in the middle of the round robin to ensure all teams have at least one week off. Some teams would have two, which is one of the vagaries of an odd number round robin, but at least if all teams were guaranteed one week off, it would help teams like Tipperary and Waterford who ended up playing 4 weeks on the spin.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on August 06, 2018, 05:11:08 PM
The new schedule is very hard on players. More matches and less time. Does hurling even need a round robin? It was in response to the Super 8. Did the super 8 work ?  Playing the AIF in mid August is nuts

I'd disagree with most of that.

Players have been crying out for more games and less training. The ratio is now far better in that regard.

AI finals in mid August give club championships an extra two or three weeks of summer time to get played with the likelihood of decent weather and dryer pitches can only be a good thing. Hurling doesn't stop when the IC game comes to an end like Brehony and his ilk think. Start covering the club championships lads of the press. You might find there's an audience out there for it.

Yes, tweak it slightly but what we've seen this summer has been good for hurling in general.

Maybe run the other lower championship games off as precursors to the main events would also give hurling down the ranks a bigger boost on the back of the elite game.

Whether the Super 8 works in football or not is immaterial to hurling where the two round robin championships worked well IMO.
Why do counties not in the final need to hold off club hurling until September anyway?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on August 06, 2018, 07:20:05 PM
They will need to align with the other counties for the provincial series. Playing a championship off early would mean champions with no meaningful games which would leave them at a disadvantage. Leagues can still play off.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 06, 2018, 07:50:38 PM
They will need to align with the other counties for the provincial series. Playing a championship off early would mean champions with no meaningful games which would leave them at a disadvantage. Leagues can still play off.

Exactly.. clubs who are there or thereabouts peak for championship and Provincial titles, championships are at least a week or two before September this year here in Antrim
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on August 07, 2018, 12:35:52 PM
Clare had 19 wides to 13 for Galway. That statistic shows the difference between the teams. However something I would look at is why Podge Collins was given 63 minutes to score one point while Shanagher was given only the remainder of the game to make an impact. Shanagher at this point in time looks a much more effective scoring forward. I don't really see what Podge offers to be honest.
I'd rate Aaron Cunningham higher than him too - he's in the US at the moment though.

Podge has been living off past glories for a long time. Everything seemed to come together for him in '13 but he's been a shadow of that ever since.

Tony Kelly has too to a lesser extent. Kelly had a bit of a nightmare today. He wasted two balls in the last minute of injury time alone. Instead of calmly working through the field as Clare did for their equaliser at the end of the first game, Kelly just launched it and it went wide. He's a phenomenal player at his best but he's far too inconsistent and Clare don't seem to know how to get the best from him.

Shanagher is only back from a cruciate injury, probably ahead of schedule so if he gets a good winter into his legs and with the likes of Cunningham and Oisin O'Brien to add to the mix then Clare will be no push overs either.

Collins and McGrath seem to have lost their mojo and are hurling at too slow of a pace to compete. Size doesn't seem to bother Shane O'Donnell too much and brushed off Hanbury again yesterday with in close proximity.

Clare still lacking someone in midfield IMO. Kelly needs a horse of a man in beside him if he's playing midfield to do the spade work which Kelly isn't keen on.

Remembering Limerick were third in Munster yet are 70 minutes away from an AI. Still think Galway if they can freshen up and recover will in the next two weeks will have the mark off them. Limerick still a bit green on it at this level.

Shanagher just back from cruciate and playing him at all was high risk.  He got the goal the previous week but did struggle a bit rest of time.  He needs to work on striking off his left.  Being one sided was okay underage because of his sheer size and power.  Skehill left his whole goal open by committing to block, Shanagher should have tipped ball to other side.  He was still desperately unlucky.  Also Shane O'Donnell thought it was gone in and jumped to celebrate, missing his chance of rebound.  That's the breaks though as if it went in I think they would have won pulling up.   Shanagher will be a huge player for Clare going forward.

I was at the game and Podge had a great game is some ways.  His tackling, pressure and link play kept Clare in it during first half.   Score return I agree with.  McGrath since injury has lost pace and confidence.   Time is against him to get it back.  It's a shame that his best days were spent scrabbling around midfield rucks to suit Davy's systems and one man forward lines.   The way Clare play now would really suit McGrath's game.

Midfield, I agree.  For all the bleating about Malone, his presence was missed Sunday, he made a difference when he came on.

Limerick did well against Cork, twice but both games were very open.  Galway will be a lot tighter.  When Limerick met tight marking against Clare in Ennis, they didn't like it.  I hope they can play their game against Galway but they will find it hard I suspect.   Aches and pains should disappear for an All-Ireland final so I don't think that will hold Galway back.

On subject of injuries, Clare team wasn't named until just before throw-in because John Conlon had a bad ankle injury.  After all the talk about Dáithí Burke marking him, Conlon was touch and go.  Only played after injection.

This one will sting Clare players as they had Galway on the rack but couldn't hit that killer blow.  It was similar to Tipp game before Galvin goaled.  An almost psychological fear of going ahead of  a punch-drunk opponent.  That said the Clare team that lost Sunday are streets ahead of 2016 Davy vintage that limped out to Galway in quarter-finals.  So longer term when pain eases, if they can find that extra little bit they will continue to be in the teams coming on of Munster round-robin and will compete well in All-Ireland series.

/Jim.

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on August 07, 2018, 12:43:43 PM
You can't overcarry on advantage.

They reset the step count at point advantage is given.  In a practical sense, how a ref can watch and decide on all those factors I have no idea.

But on balance I think O'Donell's goal was fair to stand.  Calling it back to give him a free would be rewarding Galway for dragging him back.

/Jim.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Zulu on August 07, 2018, 02:17:18 PM
You can't overcarry on advantage.

They reset the step count at point advantage is given.  In a practical sense, how a ref can watch and decide on all those factors I have no idea.

But on balance I think O'Donell's goal was fair to stand.  Calling it back to give him a free would be rewarding Galway for dragging him back.

/Jim.

Sorry where in the rule book does it say you reset the steps when giving advantage? I'm pretty sure that's not the case and I've never heard that before from either refs or on the referee courses I attended.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Minder on August 07, 2018, 02:18:17 PM
You can't overcarry on advantage.

They reset the step count at point advantage is given.  In a practical sense, how a ref can watch and decide on all those factors I have no idea.

But on balance I think O'Donell's goal was fair to stand.  Calling it back to give him a free would be rewarding Galway for dragging him back.

/Jim.

Sorry where in the rule book does it say you reset the steps when giving advantage? I'm pretty sure that's not the case and I've never heard that before from either refs or on the referee courses I attended.

So what is the advantage rule in relation to steps ?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Zulu on August 07, 2018, 02:31:06 PM
There is none. If you're fouled and the refs plays advantage I'm not aware of any caveat that allows the fouled player to foul himself without punishment. 
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on August 07, 2018, 02:44:34 PM
I can't claim to be well versed in the particular rules but that was the explanation given on Sunday Game for Ger Aylward goal standing.

I haven't watched Shane's goal back yet to count steps so don't know how many he actually took.  I would maintain though that he was trying to play the ball fair.  Calling it back would be a reward to those dragging out of him.

/Jim.


Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: shark on August 07, 2018, 02:52:06 PM
There is none. If you're fouled and the refs plays advantage I'm not aware of any caveat that allows the fouled player to foul himself without punishment.

You're 100% correct. However, if the refs started calling this by the letter of the law there could be unintended consequences of increased pulling and dragging. Why would you not foul a lad going through on goal, and there is no black card! One of the reasons the big hurling games have been so exciting has been refs letting so much go. I can understand how that can be frustrating in equal measure. Mannion was fouled blatantly 3 times in 30 seconds at the end of the first half and the ref just let it run.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on August 07, 2018, 03:15:10 PM
There is none. If you're fouled and the refs plays advantage I'm not aware of any caveat that allows the fouled player to foul himself without punishment.

You're 100% correct. However, if the refs started calling this by the letter of the law there could be unintended consequences of increased pulling and dragging. Why would you not foul a lad going through on goal, and there is no black card! One of the reasons the big hurling games have been so exciting has been refs letting so much go. I can understand how that can be frustrating in equal measure. Mannion was fouled blatantly 3 times in 30 seconds at the end of the first half and the ref just let it run.

In a practical sense the steps one if policed that way would give no advantage in a lot of cases. 

Take a scenario where a player is dragged on his third or fourth step.  The ref gives advantage to the now off-balance player and he corrects his run.  Immediately a free for over-carrying.  Regardless of rule, it appears to the games I am watching the ref is either:

1) Giving a couple of steps grace
2) Counting from advantage on
3) Just going with the flow

I know many will say it is number 3!

/Jim.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Zulu on August 07, 2018, 03:38:45 PM
I agree and it's a tough one for refs. However, I think hurling referee's are not actually refereeing the game and leaving a lot of fouls go. It certainly helps the entertainment value and players accept it but I think it's very odd that blatant frees are not given. Interestingly, Brian Gavin, in his column in the Irish examiner said that the sending off in the Kerry Kildare game was probably correct as striking or attempting to strike around the head was a sending off in FOOTBALL. The rule book is the same for both codes yet I think the games are refereed completely differently. Football referees are far too fussy but hurling ones leave far too many blatant fouls go. Mind you, where the happy medium is I've no clue.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 07, 2018, 03:58:45 PM
I agree and it's a tough one for refs. However, I think hurling referee's are not actually refereeing the game and leaving a lot of fouls go. It certainly helps the entertainment value and players accept it but I think it's very odd that blatant frees are not given. Interestingly, Brian Gavin, in his column in the Irish examiner said that the sending off in the Kerry Kildare game was probably correct as striking or attempting to strike around the head was a sending off in FOOTBALL. The rule book is the same for both codes yet I think the games are refereed completely differently. Football referees are far too fussy but hurling ones leave far too many blatant fouls go. Mind you, where the happy medium is I've no clue.

I also think the hurling refs are reffing to make the entertaining game. If one team is getting ahead, the losing team gets a few handy ones, and the winning team gets nothing for a few minutes.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: NAG1 on August 07, 2018, 04:28:50 PM
There is none. If you're fouled and the refs plays advantage I'm not aware of any caveat that allows the fouled player to foul himself without punishment.

There is no caveat in the books, but most refs (rightly or wrongly) allow that extra couple of steps to the player being fouled.

I dont think O'Donnell's goal was the worst example of over carrying we have seen in this season never mind over the past few.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2018, 06:52:01 PM
There is none. If you're fouled and the refs plays advantage I'm not aware of any caveat that allows the fouled player to foul himself without punishment.

As NAG said it’s not the worst for goals. Ref did allow extra couple but no more, man going in for goal being hauled back, this used to be the old advantage rule that never was a rule, if you know what I mean, count how many steps it was from the ‘foul’ before he throws it on to his stick
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Franko on August 08, 2018, 05:00:20 PM
I agree and it's a tough one for refs. However, I think hurling referee's are not actually refereeing the game and leaving a lot of fouls go. It certainly helps the entertainment value and players accept it but I think it's very odd that blatant frees are not given. Interestingly, Brian Gavin, in his column in the Irish examiner said that the sending off in the Kerry Kildare game was probably correct as striking or attempting to strike around the head was a sending off in FOOTBALL. The rule book is the same for both codes yet I think the games are refereed completely differently. Football referees are far too fussy but hurling ones leave far too many blatant fouls go. Mind you, where the happy medium is I've no clue.

I agree to an extent - but fail to see that it's a problem.  If the players accept it, the fans accept it and the game is more entertaining as a result, I don't see why the practice should be changed.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2018, 08:11:09 PM
The ref is riding Galway here, been at least two advantages not given, and theee slaps from Tipp men on the heads of Galway players that haven’t received a card! Plus one slap down on a Galway players hand let off also!

Other than that Tipps accuracy is something else.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on August 08, 2018, 08:22:05 PM
Tipp ahead 2-13 to 0-9 at halftime.  Galway down to 14.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2018, 08:28:52 PM
Tipp ahead 2-13 to 0-9 at halftime.  Galway down to 14.

The red card was ridiculous! Be seriously embarrassed if I was sent off for that, or sent someone off for that based on what the linesman said!

How many people are sent off for jostling with their markers? Zero
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on August 08, 2018, 08:46:45 PM
Tipp red card for challenge on keeper...keeper off injured.  2-16 to 0-11...Tipp ahead with 20 mins to go.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: tippabu on August 08, 2018, 08:47:46 PM
Tipp ahead 2-13 to 0-9 at halftime.  Galway down to 14.

The red card was ridiculous! Be seriously embarrassed if I was sent off for that, or sent someone off for that based on what the linesman said!

How many people are sent off for jostling with their markers? Zero

It was a strike, very close to hitting him in the balls, red card all day long. The 2nd red was a disgraceful decision
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2018, 08:51:42 PM
Tipp ahead 2-13 to 0-9 at halftime.  Galway down to 14.

The red card was ridiculous! Be seriously embarrassed if I was sent off for that, or sent someone off for that based on what the linesman said!

How many people are sent off for jostling with their markers? Zero

It was a strike, very close to hitting him in the balls, red card all day long. The 2nd red was a disgraceful decision

Behave yourself! A strike? The guy went down like a footballer.. embarrassed for you
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on August 08, 2018, 08:51:55 PM
Game on again. 1-15 to 2-16.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: tippabu on August 08, 2018, 08:55:19 PM
Tipp ahead 2-13 to 0-9 at halftime.  Galway down to 14.

The red card was ridiculous! Be seriously embarrassed if I was sent off for that, or sent someone off for that based on what the linesman said!

How many people are sent off for jostling with their markers? Zero

It was a strike, very close to hitting him in the balls, red card all day long. The 2nd red was a disgraceful decision

Behave yourself! A strike? The guy went down like a footballer.. embarrassed for you

Look at the rules ya clown
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2018, 09:05:57 PM
Tipp ahead 2-13 to 0-9 at halftime.  Galway down to 14.

The red card was ridiculous! Be seriously embarrassed if I was sent off for that, or sent someone off for that based on what the linesman said!

How many people are sent off for jostling with their markers? Zero

It was a strike, very close to hitting him in the balls, red card all day long. The 2nd red was a disgraceful decision

Behave yourself! A strike? The guy went down like a footballer.. embarrassed for you

Look at the rules ya clown

If that was a strike then do was the deliberate strikes on the heads on the Galway lads in the first half, you clown!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 08, 2018, 09:06:37 PM
Won the free for the drag down and the Galway lads decides to kick out. what a clown!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on August 08, 2018, 09:07:28 PM
Won the free for the drag down and the Galway lads decides to kick out. what a clown!
A stupid, selfish bastid
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on August 08, 2018, 09:08:05 PM
Game over.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2018, 09:13:52 PM
Won the free for the drag down and the Galway lads decides to kick out. what a clown!
A stupid, selfish bastid

Dirty fecker, that deserves a red card and a decent ban.. that’s been the most annoying game from a refereeing view that I’ve seen this year..
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: tippabu on August 08, 2018, 09:14:17 PM
Tipp ahead 2-13 to 0-9 at halftime.  Galway down to 14.

The red card was ridiculous! Be seriously embarrassed if I was sent off for that, or sent someone off for that based on what the linesman said!

How many people are sent off for jostling with their markers? Zero

It was a strike, very close to hitting him in the balls, red card all day long. The 2nd red was a disgraceful decision

Behave yourself! A strike? The guy went down like a footballer.. embarrassed for you

Look at the rules ya clown

If that was a strike then do was the deliberate strikes on the heads on the Galway lads in the first half, you clown!

So there were tipp lads hitting Galway lads on the head deliberately in the 1st half off the ball?....hold my hands up if that was the case and they should have been sent off
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: tippabu on August 08, 2018, 09:15:48 PM
Won the free for the drag down and the Galway lads decides to kick out. what a clown!

Less of the clown stuff, leave that to myself and miltown!!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2018, 09:19:49 PM
Tipp ahead 2-13 to 0-9 at halftime.  Galway down to 14.

The red card was ridiculous! Be seriously embarrassed if I was sent off for that, or sent someone off for that based on what the linesman said!

How many people are sent off for jostling with their markers? Zero

It was a strike, very close to hitting him in the balls, red card all day long. The 2nd red was a disgraceful decision

Behave yourself! A strike? The guy went down like a footballer.. embarrassed for you

Look at the rules ya clown

If that was a strike then do was the deliberate strikes on the heads on the Galway lads in the first half, you clown!

So there were tipp lads hitting Galway lads on the head deliberately in the 1st half off the ball?....hold my hands up if that was the case and they should have been sent off

A deliberate strike is a red card going by the book, off the ball on the ball or in the tunnel.. that lad went down holding his balls when he got a tap in the stomach no different to when players greet each other when they come on as subs!

All in all a feisty game when some well taken goals, where was that team against Cork? Wasn’t too many on the pitch with the numbers 1-15. Must have been wholesale changes
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: tippabu on August 08, 2018, 09:30:24 PM
Tipp ahead 2-13 to 0-9 at halftime.  Galway down to 14.

The red card was ridiculous! Be seriously embarrassed if I was sent off for that, or sent someone off for that based on what the linesman said!

How many people are sent off for jostling with their markers? Zero

It was a strike, very close to hitting him in the balls, red card all day long. The 2nd red was a disgraceful decision

Behave yourself! A strike? The guy went down like a footballer.. embarrassed for you

Look at the rules ya clown

If that was a strike then do was the deliberate strikes on the heads on the Galway lads in the first half, you clown!

So there were tipp lads hitting Galway lads on the head deliberately in the 1st half off the ball?....hold my hands up if that was the case and they should have been sent off

A deliberate strike is a red card going by the book, off the ball on the ball or in the tunnel.. that lad went down holding his balls when he got a tap in the stomach no different to when players greet each other when they come on as subs!

All in all a feisty game when some well taken goals, where was that team against Cork? Wasn’t too many on the pitch with the numbers 1-15. Must have been wholesale changes

God only knows, ger browne was unreal for us tonight. Game could have been very different though Galway had some terrible wides 1st half and we were very clinical. We really struggled after kehoes red to win ball in the forwards. Delighted we've a chance to redeem ourselves against cork but they really should have too much for us. Delighted with tonight's results though
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on August 09, 2018, 09:00:03 AM
Didn't see the first sending off but thought the Tipp lad was a bit hard done by. His flailing arm caught the keeper in the chest area, foul, yes, yellow, yes, red, no.
Galway had got themselves back in the game with their goal and had Tipp under the cosh and when the Tipp lad was rugby tackling the Galway forward giving a simple free to tap over would have made it a 2 point game only to lose the head and boot the lad in the swingers. Red all day long.

That was momentum lost, free reduced to throw in ball and cleared up the field.

Hard to see Tipp improving enough to bother Cork in the final though.

The final will be in Thurles though.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: tippabu on August 10, 2018, 02:09:30 PM
Didn't see the first sending off but thought the Tipp lad was a bit hard done by. His flailing arm caught the keeper in the chest area, foul, yes, yellow, yes, red, no.
Galway had got themselves back in the game with their goal and had Tipp under the cosh and when the Tipp lad was rugby tackling the Galway forward giving a simple free to tap over would have made it a 2 point game only to lose the head and boot the lad in the swingers. Red all day long.

That was momentum lost, free reduced to throw in ball and cleared up the field.

Hard to see Tipp improving enough to bother Cork in the final though.

The final will be in Thurles though.

Final 26th in limerick is what I'm hearing but nothing confirmed
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on August 10, 2018, 04:01:49 PM
Didn't see the first sending off but thought the Tipp lad was a bit hard done by. His flailing arm caught the keeper in the chest area, foul, yes, yellow, yes, red, no.
Galway had got themselves back in the game with their goal and had Tipp under the cosh and when the Tipp lad was rugby tackling the Galway forward giving a simple free to tap over would have made it a 2 point game only to lose the head and boot the lad in the swingers. Red all day long.

That was momentum lost, free reduced to throw in ball and cleared up the field.

Hard to see Tipp improving enough to bother Cork in the final though.

The final will be in Thurles though.

Final 26th in limerick is what I'm hearing but nothing confirmed

Thought the U21 final was always to be in Thurles no matter the participants, has that changed?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on August 11, 2018, 12:04:09 AM
Didn't see the first sending off but thought the Tipp lad was a bit hard done by. His flailing arm caught the keeper in the chest area, foul, yes, yellow, yes, red, no.
Galway had got themselves back in the game with their goal and had Tipp under the cosh and when the Tipp lad was rugby tackling the Galway forward giving a simple free to tap over would have made it a 2 point game only to lose the head and boot the lad in the swingers. Red all day long.

That was momentum lost, free reduced to throw in ball and cleared up the field.

Hard to see Tipp improving enough to bother Cork in the final though.

The final will be in Thurles though.

Final 26th in limerick is what I'm hearing but nothing confirmed

Thought the U21 final was always to be in Thurles no matter the participants, has that changed?
Think that was unless Tipp were in it, Galway did a fair bit of grumbling after playing there in the 2010 final a week after the senior final and the Tipp bandwagon was in full flow.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: tippabu on August 11, 2018, 11:52:23 AM
Didn't see the first sending off but thought the Tipp lad was a bit hard done by. His flailing arm caught the keeper in the chest area, foul, yes, yellow, yes, red, no.
Galway had got themselves back in the game with their goal and had Tipp under the cosh and when the Tipp lad was rugby tackling the Galway forward giving a simple free to tap over would have made it a 2 point game only to lose the head and boot the lad in the swingers. Red all day long.

That was momentum lost, free reduced to throw in ball and cleared up the field.

Hard to see Tipp improving enough to bother Cork in the final though.

The final will be in Thurles though.

Final 26th in limerick is what I'm hearing but nothing confirmed

Thought the U21 final was always to be in Thurles no matter the participants, has that changed?
Think that was unless Tipp were in it, Galway did a fair bit of grumbling after playing there in the 2010 final a week after the senior final and the Tipp bandwagon was in full flow.

It was agreed in 2010 at the start of the year thurles would be the venue, it wasn't a case of it being awarded once the finalists were known. Galway support (and players!!) Boycotted the game in protest.

For me there's no way for an AI final is shouldn't be anything but a neutral venue. No question this game should be in limerick. Tipp Kilkenny and Wexford kilkenny are the only ones where an obvious neutral venue isn't there...portlaoise or dublin probably
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2018, 11:25:58 AM
Under a week to go and I've managed to secure a ticket for the final.. looking forward to this, just to see if Galway can back up what they did last year or can Limerick shock everyone and get over the line.. they missed the boat a few years ago 95/96?, I was at the match and remember that they wouldn't have a better chance to win, Carey was brilliant and Kirby missed a few, think he ended up with a broken hand..

The craic should be mighty
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 13, 2018, 12:47:52 PM
Under a week to go and I've managed to secure a ticket for the final.. looking forward to this, just to see if Galway can back up what they did last year or can Limerick shock everyone and get over the line.. they missed the boat a few years ago 95/96?, I was at the match and remember that they wouldn't have a better chance to win, Carey was brilliant and Kirby missed a few, think he ended up with a broken hand..

The craic should be mighty

Limerick suffered heartbreak in 94 against us when our lads went mad for 5 minutes. In 96 they lost to a worse Wexford team, in my opinion. Gary Kirby's finger was broken very early in the game in 'suspicious' circumstances.

They also lost badly in 07 when they were outmatched v Kilkenny and Eddie Brennan roasted Seamus Hickey early on.

I'd love to see them win this.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2018, 12:52:29 PM
Under a week to go and I've managed to secure a ticket for the final.. looking forward to this, just to see if Galway can back up what they did last year or can Limerick shock everyone and get over the line.. they missed the boat a few years ago 95/96?, I was at the match and remember that they wouldn't have a better chance to win, Carey was brilliant and Kirby missed a few, think he ended up with a broken hand..

The craic should be mighty

Limerick suffered heartbreak in 94 against us when our lads went mad for 5 minutes. In 96 they lost to a worse Wexford team, in my opinion. Gary Kirby's finger was broken very early in the game in 'suspicious' circumstances.

They also lost badly in 07 when they were outmatched v Kilkenny and Eddie Brennan roasted Seamus Hickey early on.

I'd love to see them win this.

Remember the Offaly game rightly, christ, talk about getting hijacked! Limerick were numb. Momentum is impossible to break late in a game, the rate of scores offlay got and the angles they hit them over was outrageous..

Mon Limerick, though I'm a Galway fan from the 80's
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: clonadmad on August 13, 2018, 01:45:29 PM
Under a week to go and I've managed to secure a ticket for the final.. looking forward to this, just to see if Galway can back up what they did last year or can Limerick shock everyone and get over the line.. they missed the boat a few years ago 95/96?, I was at the match and remember that they wouldn't have a better chance to win, Carey was brilliant and Kirby missed a few, think he ended up with a broken hand..

The craic should be mighty

Liam Dunne,it was that done Kirby

And if roasted is a euphemism for giving a lad the butt of the hurl into the nuts before the ball was thrown in,then Brennan roasted Hickey all right

Limerick suffered heartbreak in 94 against us when our lads went mad for 5 minutes. In 96 they lost to a worse Wexford team, in my opinion. Gary Kirby's finger was broken very early in the game in 'suspicious' circumstances.

They also lost badly in 07 when they were outmatched v Kilkenny and Eddie Brennan roasted Seamus Hickey early on.

I'd love to see them win this.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 13, 2018, 01:56:09 PM
Yep, I didn't want to name him here.

Wexford were agricultural that day. Most Limerick people I know would deem that a blacker day than 1994.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: mouview on August 13, 2018, 03:08:17 PM
Yep, I didn't want to name him here.

Wexford were agricultural that day. Most Limerick people I know would deem that a blacker day than 1994.

Despite being at it, I don't recall a huge amount from '96, save a WX man (Scallan?) getting the line. Speaking of things agricultural, I do recall saying to a Wexford fan on the Hill before the match that the injured Sean Flood (a contractor) was a big loss to the Yellow Bellies. "Is that right?" said the fan, "What happened him?"

It was somehow pre-ordained that WX would win that year, having finally thrown off the twin shackles of KK and Offaly in Leinster, and beating Galway in the semi', a sine non qua in those days for winning Liam.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on August 13, 2018, 03:24:07 PM
Yep, I didn't want to name him here.

Wexford were agricultural that day. Most Limerick people I know would deem that a blacker day than 1994.

Despite being at it, I don't recall a huge amount from '96, save a WX man (Scallan?) getting the line. Speaking of things agricultural, I do recall saying to a Wexford fan on the Hill before the match that the injured Sean Flood (a contractor) was a big loss to the Yellow Bellies. "Is that right?" said the fan, "What happened him?"

It was somehow pre-ordained that WX would win that year, having finally thrown off the twin shackles of KK and Offaly in Leinster, and beating Galway in the semi', a sine non qua in those days for winning Liam.

Wexford may have been agricultural but they'd also some very fine hurlers in their ranks.  Martin Storey, Larry O'Gorman, Tom Dempsey, Rory O'Connor, Liam Dunne, the O'Connors, Larry Murphy and Adrian Fenlon were all fine hurlers.

I remember poor Billy Dooley bent over his hurley near the end when the ball broke to him and just having enough energy to turn and put it over the bar. Mad game and all that it was.
Limerick couldn't handle having the spare man so early in the game.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 13, 2018, 03:37:48 PM
Wexford had fine hurlers. I'm saying they were agricultural that day. Limerick are still sore over that one.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on August 13, 2018, 03:49:15 PM
Wexford had fine hurlers. I'm saying they were agricultural that day. Limerick are still sore over that one.

Limerick can go on all they like about the damage inflicted on Kirby but they'd enough coarse christians off their own to give it back. Mike Houlihan, Sean O'Neill and the likes weren't a bit shy at breaking a bit of ash when the need arose.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 13, 2018, 03:50:24 PM
Wexford had fine hurlers. I'm saying they were agricultural that day. Limerick are still sore over that one.

Limerick can go on all they like about the damage inflicted on Kirby but they'd enough coarse christians off their own to give it back. Mike Houlihan, Sean O'Neill and the likes weren't a bit shy at breaking a bit of ash when the need arose.

Houlihan :) An absolute lunatic. Don't remember Sean O'Neill as being particularly nasty.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on August 13, 2018, 04:19:36 PM
Wexford had fine hurlers. I'm saying they were agricultural that day. Limerick are still sore over that one.

Limerick can go on all they like about the damage inflicted on Kirby but they'd enough coarse christians off their own to give it back. Mike Houlihan, Sean O'Neill and the likes weren't a bit shy at breaking a bit of ash when the need arose.

Houlihan :) An absolute lunatic. Don't remember Sean O'Neill as being particularly nasty.


Skinny tall lad did midfield? He didn't spare the ash either. He'd a brother who played the odd time in the forwards as well, was a gentler soul compared to Sean.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 13, 2018, 04:20:18 PM
Yeah I know the lad. His brother was Owen or Eoin I think?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on August 13, 2018, 04:44:55 PM
Yeah I know the lad. His brother was Owen or Eoin I think?

The very one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8mauQ2npA0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8mauQ2npA0)

15 seconds in
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 13, 2018, 04:46:55 PM
Yeah I know the lad. His brother was Owen or Eoin I think?

The very one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8mauQ2npA0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8mauQ2npA0)

15 seconds in

that's right, he's Murroe. The next club over the border to ourselves.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Minder on August 13, 2018, 05:56:00 PM
He tried to soften up George O’Connor at the throw in in 1996 and George was having none of it
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: NAG1 on August 14, 2018, 02:02:20 PM
He tried to soften up George O’Connor at the throw in in 1996 and George was having none of it

I think Limerick people being sore about agricultural hurling is a bit rich.

Just on that tagent, I cant remember a dirty blow being struck this year throughout the championship. Think this is one of the reasons the skilful players are flourishing at the moment.
(Maybe the u21 lad with the kick on the Tipp lad  :o)
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 14, 2018, 02:25:52 PM
He tried to soften up George O’Connor at the throw in in 1996 and George was having none of it

I think Limerick people being sore about agricultural hurling is a bit rich.

Just on that tagent, I cant remember a dirty blow being struck this year throughout the championship. Think this is one of the reasons the skilful players are flourishing at the moment.
(Maybe the u21 lad with the kick on the Tipp lad  :o)

Good refereeing NAG1, and I'm saying that without my ref hat on but as a supporter.. the under 21 game for me wasnt ref'd well, IMO
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: NAG1 on August 14, 2018, 02:42:07 PM
He tried to soften up George O’Connor at the throw in in 1996 and George was having none of it

I think Limerick people being sore about agricultural hurling is a bit rich.

Just on that tagent, I cant remember a dirty blow being struck this year throughout the championship. Think this is one of the reasons the skilful players are flourishing at the moment.
(Maybe the u21 lad with the kick on the Tipp lad  :o)

Good refereeing NAG1, and I'm saying that without my ref hat on but as a supporter.. the under 21 game for me wasnt ref'd well, IMO

Would tend to agree with that, but there is a buy-in from the players to play right to edge but not past it (on majority of occasions)

There are good referees in the football too, difference is most of the players are trying to con him any chance they get.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: youbetterbelieveit on August 14, 2018, 06:44:50 PM
Yeah I know the lad. His brother was Owen or Eoin I think?

The very one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8mauQ2npA0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8mauQ2npA0)

15 seconds in

that's right, he's Murroe. The next club over the border to ourselves.

Have to pull you up on this one AZOffaly, he is Boher! the GAA club is Murroe-Boher.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 14, 2018, 08:34:08 PM
Yeah I know the lad. His brother was Owen or Eoin I think?

The very one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8mauQ2npA0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8mauQ2npA0)

15 seconds in

that's right, he's Murroe. The next club over the border to ourselves.

Have to pull you up on this one AZOffaly, he is Boher! the GAA club is Murroe-Boher.

Yes, but it's always called Murroe :) By us anyway! Same way Drom and Inch are normally referred to as Drom.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: mouview on August 15, 2018, 01:49:25 PM
He tried to soften up George O’Connor at the throw in in 1996 and George was having none of it

I think Limerick people being sore about agricultural hurling is a bit rich.

Just on that tagent, I cant remember a dirty blow being struck this year throughout the championship. Think this is one of the reasons the skilful players are flourishing at the moment.
(Maybe the u21 lad with the kick on the Tipp lad  :o)

John McGrath gave a good dig to the Limerick defender the first day out.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on August 15, 2018, 02:08:37 PM
Having the hurling final mid August feels very strange
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on August 15, 2018, 02:44:54 PM
Having the hurling final mid August feels very strange

I suppose the strangest thing is RTE News not being able to do a report form a rural School in the build up to the final!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: NAG1 on August 15, 2018, 03:06:41 PM
Having the hurling final mid August feels very strange

Not sure I like it  :(
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: tippabu on August 15, 2018, 06:01:30 PM
He tried to soften up George O’Connor at the throw in in 1996 and George was having none of it

I think Limerick people being sore about agricultural hurling is a bit rich.

Just on that tagent, I cant remember a dirty blow being struck this year throughout the championship. Think this is one of the reasons the skilful players are flourishing at the moment.
(Maybe the u21 lad with the kick on the Tipp lad  :o)

John McGrath gave a good dig to the Limerick defender the first day out.

He did, deserved a red for it.....I see Brian Concannon is suspended for the senior final for a similar (yes it wasn't a bad 'strike 'by any means) offense in the under 21 semi
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on August 16, 2018, 07:45:46 AM
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/they-are-the-best-team-physically-and-speedwise-brendan-cummins-predicts-an-allireland-final-upset-37220472.html"

Limerick have played Galway before and we are basing their last All-Ireland [in 2007] against the best team who every played because that Kilkenny team had you beaten before you came out," Cummins said.

"I don't think this Limerick team will go in thinking Galway are like that. They'll feel that Galway have been ahead in games but other teams have clawed them back. Limerick will think they are better than Clare and they should have beaten them so why can't we?
"The way Limerick are playing at the moment, they are the best team physically and speed-wise. Glillane and Flanagan have an X factor. If they win the middle third battle and stay in it coming down the straight, I think the Limerick fans will be standing up for the last six minutes of this game rather than heading home like the last time. That emotion will carry them home and I think Limerick will get there by a few points."
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on August 16, 2018, 09:11:01 AM
Limerick will think they are better than Clare and they should have beaten them so why can't we?

Limerick played and lost to Clare  in this year's championship.  Limerick played and lost to Clare in last year's championship.  All I can think is that Brendan is going on a League game that Clare had won and then took eye off the ball and Limerick won on a free taking competition.

I doubt John Kiely is as daft as Brendan. He will know that O'Donoghue will look at Clare Limerick game in Ennis and probably when give one of Clare management a call.

They will discuss that when Clare shutdown Flanagan, Dowling up front (Gillane didn't play) and Hayes and Lynch in midfield then Limerick got badly stuck because their open game was shut down.

They lost discipline and also full back line could not contain Conlon (substitute Glynn for Conlon?) . Management had bad day by going sweeper to try and block Conlon but they left Jamie Shanahan freedom of the park. For a finish Clare had 7 forwards on field completely pushed up on a 14 man Limerick.

Galway will not play the nice open hurling of Cork.  They will have more than the 60mins of graft that Kilkenny had.  They beat Clare which Limerick couldn't do.

Limerick might win, especially if they get on top in middle third but Brenny gives no explanation of how they will do that.

/Jim.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on August 16, 2018, 09:30:26 AM
I can't see Flanagan getting any change out of Daithi Burke and I'd suspect Gillane will be picked up by Tuohy rather than Hanbury (or Loftus) due to his ability to go for goal. Hanbury will still have his work cut out on Mulcahy all the same but Mulcahy is more inclined to pick up some nice points than bore head down on goal.

If McInerney is indeed fit, with Mannion and Harte either side Limerick will need to bypass this line when possible. It has to be noted that in the original semi-final it was really only after McInerney exited the fray that Clare made big inroads into the Galway defence.

Not sure this Limerick team would have the same speed about them as what some of the Clare lads would have had and where Clare got joy.

My gut says Galway to grind out another victory but if Limerick can keep the margin small going into the final straight then you never know and the likes of Dowling being sprung from the bench could get them over the line.
I fancy Galway to get a few goals though as the Limerick fullback line has struggled with big strong ball winners all year.

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on August 16, 2018, 06:38:00 PM
I can't see Flanagan getting any change out of Daithi Burke and I'd suspect Gillane will be picked up by Tuohy rather than Hanbury (or Loftus) due to his ability to go for goal. Hanbury will still have his work cut out on Mulcahy all the same but Mulcahy is more inclined to pick up some nice points than bore head down on goal.

If McInerney is indeed fit, with Mannion and Harte either side Limerick will need to bypass this line when possible. It has to be noted that in the original semi-final it was really only after McInerney exited the fray that Clare made big inroads into the Galway defence.

Not sure this Limerick team would have the same speed about them as what some of the Clare lads would have had and where Clare got joy.

My gut says Galway to grind out another victory but if Limerick can keep the margin small going into the final straight then you never know and the likes of Dowling being sprung from the bench could get them over the line.
I fancy Galway to get a few goals though as the Limerick fullback line has struggled with big strong ball winners all year.
I think he also ignores Limerick's lack of experience
They will win something in the future most likely but this year might be a bit soon
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 16, 2018, 08:16:22 PM
I can't see Flanagan getting any change out of Daithi Burke and I'd suspect Gillane will be picked up by Tuohy rather than Hanbury (or Loftus) due to his ability to go for goal. Hanbury will still have his work cut out on Mulcahy all the same but Mulcahy is more inclined to pick up some nice points than bore head down on goal.

If McInerney is indeed fit, with Mannion and Harte either side Limerick will need to bypass this line when possible. It has to be noted that in the original semi-final it was really only after McInerney exited the fray that Clare made big inroads into the Galway defence.

Not sure this Limerick team would have the same speed about them as what some of the Clare lads would have had and where Clare got joy.

My gut says Galway to grind out another victory but if Limerick can keep the margin small going into the final straight then you never know and the likes of Dowling being sprung from the bench could get them over the line.
I fancy Galway to get a few goals though as the Limerick fullback line has struggled with big strong ball winners all year.
I think he also ignores Limerick's lack of experience
They will win something in the future most likely but this year might be a bit soon
Like Clare in 2013, the first year is the year to do it
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2018, 09:02:30 PM
I thought clare beat limerick mainly due to injuries and tiredness. I am not sure on a level playing field with rest etc that clare would live with them.

How limerick handle glynn will be interesting. He is a real goal threat. Whelan too as he has become a real danger.

Two shrewd managers too so should be a real tactical ding dong.

I think this is as good a chance as limerick will have for a long time. Clare have shown galway are there to be got at. As johnny says no mcinerney would make problems for galway.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 16, 2018, 09:24:29 PM
I think if Limerick don't blow up early, and are within 3 or 4 points with 10-15 to go, they will win.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2018, 09:50:21 PM
Yeah only seafoid thinks it is a foregone conclusion. Limerick have a big chance here and they have good depth to finish strong. I wonder will dowling start.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 16, 2018, 10:01:44 PM
Yeah only seafoid thinks it is a foregone conclusion. Limerick have a big chance here and they have good depth to finish strong. I wonder will dowling start.

That's an interesting one. Flanagan starting and Dowling coming on is probably a bigger psychological lift than vice versa.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on August 16, 2018, 10:07:56 PM
Yeah i would say so too. Same with the fella who scored that last goal - name i can't remember. He is very fast and his pace against tired defenders makes a big difference.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2018, 11:50:52 PM
Jesus lads a fit Dowling starts every game, his free taking alone from distance is enough, his touch accuracy and drive is infectious.. I’m in the camp that he comes on and forces limerick to preform from the start. There are some players that paying £75 is easy, Canning Dowling are just two on show this weekend that will lift the 80 odd thousand at Croker
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Capt Pat on August 17, 2018, 01:54:15 AM
I was on the fence about who to support in this weekends game until I saw todays six one news and saw Cooneys sister was on talking to Marty Morrissey. She is a stunner playing camogie for Galway on saturday too. So I will be backing Galway to win by 5 points. A goal or two for Limerick though could make a game of it and an exciting finish.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on August 17, 2018, 07:51:03 AM
Jesus lads a fit Dowling starts every game, his free taking alone from distance is enough, his touch accuracy and drive is infectious.. I’m in the camp that he comes on and forces limerick to preform from the start. There are some players that paying £75 is easy, Canning Dowling are just two on show this weekend that will lift the 80 odd thousand at Croker

Key word is fit mr. Hasn't been fullyfit all year.

As gooda reason as any i guesscapt pat ;D
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on August 17, 2018, 08:35:39 AM
I can't see Flanagan getting any change out of Daithi Burke and I'd suspect Gillane will be picked up by Tuohy rather than Hanbury (or Loftus) due to his ability to go for goal. Hanbury will still have his work cut out on Mulcahy all the same but Mulcahy is more inclined to pick up some nice points than bore head down on goal.

If McInerney is indeed fit, with Mannion and Harte either side Limerick will need to bypass this line when possible. It has to be noted that in the original semi-final it was really only after McInerney exited the fray that Clare made big inroads into the Galway defence.

Not sure this Limerick team would have the same speed about them as what some of the Clare lads would have had and where Clare got joy.

My gut says Galway to grind out another victory but if Limerick can keep the margin small going into the final straight then you never know and the likes of Dowling being sprung from the bench could get them over the line.
I fancy Galway to get a few goals though as the Limerick fullback line has struggled with big strong ball winners all year.
I think he also ignores Limerick's lack of experience
They will win something in the future most likely but this year might be a bit soon
Like Clare in 2013, the first year is the year to do it

Cork by and large were also novices of AI finals that year as well so a more even playing field to what we'll see on Sunday where one team has played in 5 AI finals since 2012 (1 replay) and one which hasn't played in any.


Dowling comes on from the bench for me as I don't think he's the fitness to last out 70 minutes, nor probably 50 if the truth was told. Let Flanagan battle away manfully with Burke from the start and see where that takes them.
Dowling entering the fray will lift a big Limerick crowd moreso than Flanagan being introduced.

Limerick lost the midfield battle against Clare. They can't afford for Coen and David Burke (better operators that the Clare duo) to do the same on Sunday.

Most importantly will Cian Lynch get those socks changed or ease up on the bleach in the wash!!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on August 17, 2018, 09:00:45 AM
Yeah only seafoid thinks it is a foregone conclusion. Limerick have a big chance here and they have good depth to finish strong. I wonder will dowling start.
No such thing as a foregone conclusion with Galway hurlers. If Limerick are good enough they can win.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: NAG1 on August 17, 2018, 11:25:23 AM
I might be reading too much into it, but I genuinely think if Galway show up on Sunday there could be a big enough score in it at the end.

Too much power and strength, not too mention the confidence that last year has evidently given them.

Thing with Galway is that they are so adaptable, they can go long to the edge of the square when required or they can play Whelan out into space. They can play the short game through the mid field and pick off long range scores from there, or Joe can win it and just run out round people and throw it over.

I would love to see Limerick put it up to them and make a real game of it and hopefully they will.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 17, 2018, 11:27:44 AM
I might be reading too much into it, but I genuinely think if Galway show up on Sunday there could be a big enough score in it at the end.

Too much power and strength, not too mention the confidence that last year has evidently given them.

Thing with Galway is that they are so adaptable, they can go long to the edge of the square when required or they can play Whelan out into space. They can play the short game through the mid field and pick off long range scores from there, or Joe can win it and just run out round people and throw it over.

I would love to see Limerick put it up to them and make a real game of it and hopefully they will.

Limerick also have big men though. I don't think the power and strength will win it for Galway, I think the hurling will. My biggest fear for Limerick is they will hit wides, and Galway will punish them and open up a lead. Limerick won't panic, this is a different Limerick team, but in an All Ireland if you go 9 or 10 points down it's a big, big mountain.

I will assume Limerick don't hit a load of wides, so I have a sneaky suspicion Limerick will win by 3.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 17, 2018, 12:36:29 PM
If Galway don't get their early purple patch like they have in most games they could be in trouble
A Limerick win would be great for the game
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on August 17, 2018, 02:26:00 PM
It will depend on how many wides Galway have. In last year’s final I think they only had 4. Anyway it is great to see 2 non old firm teams in the final.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 17, 2018, 04:05:10 PM
If Galway don't get their early purple patch like they have in most games they could be in trouble
A Limerick win would be great for the game

It would be great for Limerick. I don't see what it would do for the game overall to be honest.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 17, 2018, 04:20:35 PM
If Galway don't get their early purple patch like they have in most games they could be in trouble
A Limerick win would be great for the game

It would be great for Limerick. I don't see what it would do for the game overall to be honest.

Hope for the rest of the counties and a better spread of champions would be a start..

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 17, 2018, 04:25:47 PM
If Galway don't get their early purple patch like they have in most games they could be in trouble
A Limerick win would be great for the game

It would be great for Limerick. I don't see what it would do for the game overall to be honest.

Hope for the rest of the counties and a better spread of champions would be a start..

The 90s were the best decade in hurling. Cork got a couple, Tipp got one, Kilkenny got a couple, but then Offaly, Wexford, Clare hit a great spell and it was very exciting. I think hurling is poised for something similar. I guarantee you there's not one of Cork, Waterford, Tipperary or Clare looking at Limerick and saying we can't beat them. If Limerick can beat Galway, I think you have 7 counties at least who are viable contenders next year.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Duine Eile on August 17, 2018, 09:20:05 PM
One change for Galway, McInerney in for Niall Burke. Good news for Galway, Niall Burke off the bench always seems to play better than when he starts a game for some reason.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on August 18, 2018, 05:40:24 PM
Just watching the camogie here. Does anyone know why women aren’t allowed to have a metal band on their sticks? They either have no band or have to tape it up.

It’s not as if the band is causing many serious injuries in hurling.
Seems an odd rule.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on August 18, 2018, 07:36:02 PM
From a Galway pov winning a final “cold” on the first attempt even after a superb semifinal is very hard. I remember 2005 after putting 5 goals past the cats. Cork were just too cute.
There is going to be a lot of pressure on Limerick. If they pull it off it will be massive.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 18, 2018, 07:59:53 PM
Just watching the camogie here. Does anyone know why women aren’t allowed to have a metal band on their sticks? They either have no band or have to tape it up.

It’s not as if the band is causing many serious injuries in hurling.
Seems an odd rule.

There are two things I dislike about camogie. 1 is the goalkeeping, and the second is the way they can drop the hurley and do a two handed handpass. It looks rotten.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on August 19, 2018, 03:03:25 PM
Free live stream anyone?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: joemamas on August 19, 2018, 03:15:57 PM
Marty Morrisey ☹️

RTÉ still have not figured out that Dara Maloney is streets ahead in terms of commentary
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 19, 2018, 03:20:16 PM
Mary gave a great monologue before the final last year on the radio. He tried it again this year. I wonder will he go for it a third time. During the parade referring to exiles etc.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: BennyCake on August 19, 2018, 03:28:38 PM
Marty Morrisey ☹️

RTÉ still have not figured out that Dara Maloney is streets ahead in terms of commentary

I'm just glad it's not Ger Canning!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on August 19, 2018, 03:34:49 PM
Limerick missing too many.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 19, 2018, 03:35:38 PM
All Limerick in the opening 5 mins.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 19, 2018, 03:47:20 PM
Lucky Limerick goal that might make up for their 6 wides
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2018, 03:49:57 PM
There was nothing wrong with that shoulder to the face they say ;D
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2018, 03:50:19 PM
Johnny Glynn is getting rode by the officials so far.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2018, 03:51:34 PM
There was nothing wrong with that shoulder to the face they say ;D

Glynn was coming out with the ball and he ran into him square. He made no attempt to hit Glynn with a shoulder either. Got a free through his own stupidity.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 19, 2018, 03:52:11 PM
22 mins gone. 14 wides and 13 scores.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on August 19, 2018, 03:53:31 PM
Stone cold charging. Made no attempt to go around him. Dumped the shoulder straight through him.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2018, 03:55:55 PM
22 mins gone. 14 wides and 13 scores.

Brutal stuff altogether, and getting worse.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Zulu on August 19, 2018, 03:56:23 PM
There was nothing wrong with that shoulder to the face they say ;D

Glynn was coming out with the ball and he ran into him square. He made no attempt to hit Glynn with a shoulder either. Got a free through his own stupidity.

That’s called charging and a free out. Mind you how the ref left a blatant shoulder in the back go in the lead up to the goal I’ll never know.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: screenexile on August 19, 2018, 03:57:59 PM
There was nothing wrong with that shoulder to the face they say ;D

Glynn was coming out with the ball and he ran into him square. He made no attempt to hit Glynn with a shoulder either. Got a free through his own stupidity.

That’s called charging and a free out. Mind you how the ref left a blatant shoulder in the back go in the lead up to the goal I’ll never know.

Unless you’re decapatated play on sure
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2018, 03:59:53 PM
There was nothing wrong with that shoulder to the face they say ;D

Glynn was coming out with the ball and he ran into him square. He made no attempt to hit Glynn with a shoulder either. Got a free through his own stupidity.

That’s called charging and a free out. Mind you how the ref left a blatant shoulder in the back go in the lead up to the goal I’ll never know.

A lad running square into your shoulder is called charging? Interesting.

Glynn has moved out of FF and the backs have now bombed two down in on top of... Conor Whelan.

Limerick could, and perhaps should, be out of sight at this stage.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 19, 2018, 04:01:00 PM
Duignan is absolutely clueless
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Zulu on August 19, 2018, 04:08:51 PM
There was nothing wrong with that shoulder to the face they say ;D

Glynn was coming out with the ball and he ran into him square. He made no attempt to hit Glynn with a shoulder either. Got a free through his own stupidity.

That’s called charging and a free out. Mind you how the ref left a blatant shoulder in the back go in the lead up to the goal I’ll never know.

A lad running square into your shoulder is called charging? Interesting.

Glynn has moved out of FF and three backs have now bombed two down in on top of... Conor Whelan.

Limerick could, and perhaps should, be out of sight at this stage.

If you wanted to show a textbook charge to someone you’d show Glynn’s one. Duigan needs to read a rule book.

4 minutes of extra time with no subs now whereas 3 minutes of extra time at the end of the Monaghan Tyrone game. Strange.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: omochain on August 19, 2018, 04:09:01 PM
Galway only 2 Down. No right to be this close.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 19, 2018, 04:09:53 PM
Limerick played most of the hurling in that half and only 4 points ahead. If they lose they won't need to wonder why.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2018, 04:10:55 PM
Ref is losing the run of things here.

Galway only 2 Down. No right to be this close.

They've had plenty of their own wides.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Roashter on August 19, 2018, 04:12:27 PM
wide count is 11-10 I think, some awful misses
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Zulu on August 19, 2018, 04:13:33 PM
Though limerick should be further ahead I thought when Galway played a bit they looked better and if they can find a bit of form in the second half they’ll go on and win it. Need a good few lads to step up though.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 19, 2018, 04:18:20 PM
wide count is 11-10 I think, some awful misses
More wides than scores. The 2nd half can only get better.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2018, 04:18:27 PM
Need to see a slo-mo replay of the goal but looked like it squirmed up from under Skehill and Mulcahy unknowingly flicked it on with a backheel?!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Zulu on August 19, 2018, 04:34:13 PM
Galway showing nothing to suggest they’ll put up a fight. This could be a cakewalk for limerick as Galway are incredibly poor today.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: omochain on August 19, 2018, 04:34:49 PM
Limerick want it more. Galway need to find more energy if they are going to keep this close.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 19, 2018, 04:38:51 PM
Limerick good value for that 8 point lead
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on August 19, 2018, 04:40:51 PM
Limerick absolutely driven Galway stuck in the mud. No one to take control for them.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2018, 04:42:49 PM
Galway need an intervention a lá the Dooleys to save them here.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 19, 2018, 04:46:39 PM
Sin é.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 19, 2018, 04:48:08 PM
Anyone else experiencing poor reception on RTE 2?
My picture is pure cat with two or three second freezes and the picture breaking up  continually?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2018, 04:48:28 PM
McInerney has been awful but there were a serious number of steps taken for that goal.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: spuds on August 19, 2018, 04:51:17 PM
Anyone else experiencing poor reception on RTE 2?
My picture is pure cat with two or three second freezes and the picture breaking up  continually?
All good here.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: joemamas on August 19, 2018, 04:52:34 PM
McInerney has been awful but there were a serious number of steps taken for that goal.

Agree on both,

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: omochain on August 19, 2018, 04:55:24 PM
Limerick are winning almost every contested ball. Galway still sputtering... me thinks..no way back for them now
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2018, 04:58:49 PM
Galway creeping back in here. Agree on steps for the goal. Squeaky bum time here for limerick.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2018, 05:00:19 PM
Not any more lol.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 19, 2018, 05:00:25 PM
Game set and match now.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Zulu on August 19, 2018, 05:01:20 PM
That’s it now.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2018, 05:02:30 PM
That started with a ridiculous Galway handpass to nobody. I think 7 or 8 of the worst handpasses in the championship might have been in this match

Dowling is some weapon to be able to bring on.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: weareros on August 19, 2018, 05:03:16 PM
Anyone else experiencing poor reception on RTE 2?
My picture is pure cat with two or three second freezes and the picture breaking up  continually?

Reception fine but Marty just broke into Cranberries.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 19, 2018, 05:04:03 PM
A Galway goal back to a 5 point game.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2018, 05:04:14 PM
Oh...
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: joemamas on August 19, 2018, 05:04:37 PM
I hope RTÉ just mute Marty Morrisey and let the sound reaction of the crowd show the joy of a limerick victory,

Somehow he will ruin it with the usual shitload of stats and cliches
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2018, 05:05:37 PM
The ref has missed a lot.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on August 19, 2018, 05:06:48 PM
Holy shit!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 19, 2018, 05:07:02 PM
Game on again 2 point game now!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2018, 05:07:19 PM
If limerick lose this...
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 19, 2018, 05:08:46 PM
One point game. Some comeback by Galway
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Zulu on August 19, 2018, 05:11:15 PM
Well limerick have done their best to throw it away but might have enough to see it out now.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on August 19, 2018, 05:12:18 PM
Fantastic
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2018, 05:12:49 PM
Glad they didn't throw that away.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 19, 2018, 05:14:26 PM
FFS Limerick would be kicking themselves for many years to come if they didn't win that game. They were 8 or 9 points the better team today 45 year wait for All Ireland over they will hardly care how they won now and well done to them.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2018, 05:15:18 PM
Tried their best to throw it away alright. Johnny Glynn had a tap over point that he went for goal in that could have been the difference.

A poor enough final with poor enough hurling. Poor refereeing and poor commentary from Marty.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 19, 2018, 05:15:35 PM
Don’t know how that last Limerick score wasn’t a free out
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Zulu on August 19, 2018, 05:16:03 PM
Congratulations Limerick.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: omochain on August 19, 2018, 05:16:35 PM
Thrilled for Limerick... and they made that game more exciting and enjoyable than they needed. Thank you for a great end to a wonderful championship
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 19, 2018, 05:16:58 PM
Tried their best to throw it away alright. Johnny Glynn had a tap over point that he went for goal in that could have been the difference.

A poor enough final with poor enough hurling. Poor refereeing and poor commentary from Marty.

The difference will be that for the second goal they gave the ball away sloppily in defence.
Did the same two possessions in a row, Limerick hit two wides, did it a third time and Limerick got the third goal.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 19, 2018, 05:17:48 PM
Best team won congrats to Limerick, just a pity the quality of the final wasn't better.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 19, 2018, 05:17:59 PM
Tried their best to throw it away alright. Johnny Glynn had a tap over point that he went for goal in that could have been the difference.

A poor enough final with poor enough hurling. Poor refereeing and poor commentary from Marty.

If I hear “it’s not their day” one more time...
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2018, 05:21:37 PM
Tried their best to throw it away alright. Johnny Glynn had a tap over point that he went for goal in that could have been the difference.

A poor enough final with poor enough hurling. Poor refereeing and poor commentary from Marty.

The difference will be that for the second goal they gave the ball away sloppily in defence.
Did the same two possessions in a row, Limerick hit two wides, did it a third time and Limerick got the third goal.

Looking forward to seeing how many steps he took.

Very happy for Declan Hannon. He's been absolutely brilliant for Limerick ever since his debut at 17/18.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: joemamas on August 19, 2018, 05:21:53 PM
Tried their best to throw it away alright. Johnny Glynn had a tap over point that he went for goal in that could have been the difference.

A poor enough final with poor enough hurling. Poor refereeing and poor commentary from Marty.

If I hear “it’s not their day” one more time...

He cannot shut up.

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: square_ball on August 19, 2018, 05:25:23 PM
Tried their best to throw it away alright. Johnny Glynn had a tap over point that he went for goal in that could have been the difference.

A poor enough final with poor enough hurling. Poor refereeing and poor commentary from Marty.

If I hear “it’s not their day” one more time...

He cannot shut up.

Must be a fan of the cranberries. His rendition of linger was absolutely cringeworthy.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: glens73 on August 19, 2018, 05:30:22 PM
Rachel ‘not so’ Wyse on Sky Sports - Limerick win the LiamMaguire Cup
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Insane Bolt on August 19, 2018, 05:43:51 PM
Many congratulations to all in Limerick👍👍
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2018, 05:49:08 PM
Looking forward to seeing how many steps he took.

10-12?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 19, 2018, 05:49:59 PM
Delighted for Limerick.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Capt Pat on August 19, 2018, 05:51:05 PM
I thought that was a great game, the finish at least was exciting. Limerick were deserving winners on top from nearly start to finish.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2018, 05:54:15 PM
I thought that was a great game, the finish at least was exciting. Limerick were deserving winners on top from nearly start to finish.

Really? It was brutal for about 70 minutes.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2018, 05:58:04 PM
What a game
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 19, 2018, 06:11:23 PM
Exciting last 15 or so, but in general not a classic. Galway were very poor, however Limerick wide count was very worrying. Limerick deserved winners in the end.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Orchard park on August 19, 2018, 06:56:56 PM
10 point superiority would be more accuratel, delighted to see the adppted home collect finally.

Joe Canning almost dragged them back into iit single handedly.....

A good result for the game I feel..

Not a great game but an epic occasion
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on August 19, 2018, 07:52:09 PM
Disappointing to lose but Limerick deserved it and what a day for them. Delighted for people like Richie Bennis and Ciaran Carey.
In the last 25 years Offaly, Clare, Wexford, Tipp, Cork, KK, Galway and now Limerick have won. That is a reasonable spread.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 19, 2018, 08:24:29 PM
Time to put Duignan out to pasture as well

Himself and Marty were insufferable
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: galwayman on August 19, 2018, 08:30:12 PM
What can you say except well done Limerick.
In all honesty it would have been daylight robbery if Joe had managed to equalise with that last free.
Limerick probably should have won that by a comfortable margin.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Minder on August 19, 2018, 08:33:39 PM
Time to put Duignan out to pasture as well

Himself and Marty were insufferable

Was at the game so hadnt the pleasure of hearing Marty but not sure how he keeps getting these gigs
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Capt Pat on August 19, 2018, 08:46:23 PM
Time to put Duignan out to pasture as well

Himself and Marty were insufferable

Was at the game so hadnt the pleasure of hearing Marty but not sure how he keeps getting these gigs

So what you are saying is you want Ger Canning back?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 19, 2018, 08:48:47 PM
Disappointing to lose but Limerick deserved it and what a day for them. Delighted for people like Richie Bennis and Ciaran Carey.
In the last 25 years Offaly, Clare, Wexford, Tipp, Cork, KK, Galway and now Limerick have won. That is a reasonable spread.

Only Waterford are missing from the mainstream hurling strongholds.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on August 19, 2018, 09:01:42 PM
Well done Limerick, thoroughly deserved.  We shouldn’t have been within an assess roar of them towards the end.  Enjoy the celebrations!!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Orchard park on August 19, 2018, 09:31:40 PM
Well done Limerick, thoroughly deserved.  We shouldn’t have been within an assess roar of them towards the end.  Enjoy the celebrations!!

Fair dues a very honest assessment from the defeated side
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Bord na Mona man on August 19, 2018, 09:33:46 PM
Time to put Duignan out to pasture as well

Himself and Marty were insufferable
What should be a treasure trove piece of tv for Limerick fans to rewatch for years to come must be surely tarnished by Marty's squawking for the closing stages.

He sounds like he's been tickled and gelded all at the same time!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Bord na Mona man on August 19, 2018, 09:39:24 PM
It again shows how freakish Brian Cody was in keeping Kilkenny coming back for more every year, desire unquenched.
All year Galway have been patchy and 5% off where they were last year.
Two in a row is beyond most counties because most are happy to win an All Ireland rather than build a legacy.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on August 19, 2018, 09:51:31 PM
Looking forward to seeing how many steps he took.

10-12?
Plenty of steps alright. In saying that, both of Galway’s goals came after poor decisions against Limerick at the other end of the field.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: ned on August 19, 2018, 10:06:12 PM
Disappointing to lose but Limerick deserved it and what a day for them. Delighted for people like Richie Bennis and Ciaran Carey.
In the last 25 years Offaly, Clare, Wexford, Tipp, Cork, KK, Galway and now Limerick have won. That is a reasonable spread.

Only Waterford are missing from the mainstream hurling strongholds.

And Antrim............ Oh well maybe not!
Sky coverage was good by the way, although Nicky English does his best to sound if it's the end of the world.
Scenes at the end were brilliant, the pure ecstasy was hair tingling.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AQMP on August 20, 2018, 09:43:24 AM
Limerick clearly the better team in a match riddled with errors, poor shooting, poor passing and skill wise the quality was low (as was the refereeing for the most part).  The game was rescued by the excitement in the last 12-15 mins.  Glad for Limerick, it would have been devastating for them had they even drawn a game they should have won by 10.

Listening to Marty Morrissey would put years on ye.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on August 20, 2018, 10:03:31 AM
Limerick clearly the better team in a match riddled with errors, poor shooting, poor passing and skill wise the quality was low (as was the refereeing for the most part).  The game was rescued by the excitement in the last 12-15 mins.  Glad for Limerick, it would have been devastating for them had they even drawn a game they should have won by 10.

Listening to Marty Morrissey would put years on ye.

That would be my assessment of the game as well, not a great game, but you can't have it all and Limerick won't care a jot.


It again shows how freakish Brian Cody was in keeping Kilkenny coming back for more every year, desire unquenched.
All year Galway have been patchy and 5% off where they were last year.
Two in a row is beyond most counties because most are happy to win an All Ireland rather than build a legacy.


Brian managed some of the greatest hurlers to play the game in the modern era but he was ably assisted by a very weak Leinster championship for large parts of it and time to peak for the AI semi-final with big gaps of three weeks between games.

This years championship was a pure slog with teams playing 7 games in less time to win the AI.

Galways inability to bring reinforcements from the bench when it was plain to see some lads weren't fully fit was their downfall.
Big panels of 20+ hurlers able to impact the game are essential now.

Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 20, 2018, 10:12:04 AM
I tend to agree with that. I was afraid that the final was going to end up being a damp squib that the championship definitely didn't merit. My fears about Limerick's shooting came true, but I didn't expect Galway to suffer from the same malaise. That saved Limerick. The last 15 minutes rescued the game, and gave the championship the climax it deserved at the end.

There was one moment that summed up the 'new' Limerick attitude, and it happened very early in the game, maybe 2 or 3 minutes in. Cian Lynch won a ball on the ground, via a chop pickup (where you chop the sliotar into the ground and it comes up into your hand). I thought it was audacious and in the first few minutes I think it showed Limerick felt they were comfortable there. The fact he did it again in the last couple of minutes when the fat was was in the fire was unreal.

re Marty, he's too scripted. He has these monologues ready to go, and by hook or by crook he's going to get them in. He started on the Limerick victory speech way too early. Talking about Ballybrown, Kilmallock and ''Downtown Patrickswell" (FFS). I said to my wife that he was a bit early bringing out that speech. And as for the 'Linger' stuff, painful and forced. Marty's introduction on radio to the final last year was very good. It made the hair on your neck stand up. The problem there is it went viral, and I think Marty now feels everything has to have a 'moment'. Yesterday was a day when a few well placed words would have been enough as the emotion was obvious. but he had to go full blown soliloquy and he gilded the lily.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 20, 2018, 11:18:29 AM
I don't think Marty mentioned South Galway once, which must be a first when commentating on Galway hurling matches.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: spuds on August 20, 2018, 11:21:11 AM
I tend to agree with that. I was afraid that the final was going to end up being a damp squib that the championship definitely didn't merit. My fears about Limerick's shooting came true, but I didn't expect Galway to suffer from the same malaise. That saved Limerick. The last 15 minutes rescued the game, and gave the championship the climax it deserved at the end.

There was one moment that summed up the 'new' Limerick attitude, and it happened very early in the game, maybe 2 or 3 minutes in. Cian Lynch won a ball on the ground, via a chop pickup (where you chop the sliotar into the ground and it comes up into your hand). I thought it was audacious and in the first few minutes I think it showed Limerick felt they were comfortable there. The fact he did it again in the last couple of minutes when the fat was was in the fire was unreal.

re Marty, he's too scripted. He has these monologues ready to go, and by hook or by crook he's going to get them in. He started on the Limerick victory speech way too early. Talking about Ballybrown, Kilmallock and ''Downtown Patrickswell" (FFS). I said to my wife that he was a bit early bringing out that speech. And as for the 'Linger' stuff, painful and forced. Marty's introduction on radio to the final last year was very good. It made the hair on your neck stand up. The problem there is it went viral, and I think Marty now feels everything has to have a 'moment'. Yesterday was a day when a few well placed words would have been enough as the emotion was obvious. but he had to go full blown soliloquy and he gilded the lily.
Incredible belief in his own ability to do that when possession was so important. Gearóid Hegarty uses this regularly also but was relatively quiet yesterday.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Duine Eile on August 20, 2018, 01:11:46 PM
Galway were a team running on fumes yesterday and had no viable options to bring in really, Burke and Flynn were always going to come on but apart from them the bench was very bare. The job for Galway for the winter is to find those few extra players, Fintan Burke was immense for the u21s this year, I'm sure we'll see him and a few more brought in for the league. Disappointing to lose but losing to a team like Limerick who were in a similar position to ourselves last year makes it a bit easier. Well done Limerick!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on August 20, 2018, 03:11:14 PM
I tend to agree with that. I was afraid that the final was going to end up being a damp squib that the championship definitely didn't merit. My fears about Limerick's shooting came true, but I didn't expect Galway to suffer from the same malaise. That saved Limerick. The last 15 minutes rescued the game, and gave the championship the climax it deserved at the end.

There was one moment that summed up the 'new' Limerick attitude, and it happened very early in the game, maybe 2 or 3 minutes in. Cian Lynch won a ball on the ground, via a chop pickup (where you chop the sliotar into the ground and it comes up into your hand). I thought it was audacious and in the first few minutes I think it showed Limerick felt they were comfortable there. The fact he did it again in the last couple of minutes when the fat was was in the fire was unreal.

re Marty, he's too scripted. He has these monologues ready to go, and by hook or by crook he's going to get them in. He started on the Limerick victory speech way too early. Talking about Ballybrown, Kilmallock and ''Downtown Patrickswell" (FFS). I said to my wife that he was a bit early bringing out that speech. And as for the 'Linger' stuff, painful and forced. Marty's introduction on radio to the final last year was very good. It made the hair on your neck stand up. The problem there is it went viral, and I think Marty now feels everything has to have a 'moment'. Yesterday was a day when a few well placed words would have been enough as the emotion was obvious. but he had to go full blown soliloquy and he gilded the lily.

Lynch does that pickup a lot. Seems to be his trademark. He is a cracking wee player him and still very young.

I see on the belief thing that the sports psychologist Limerick have has been involved in winning all irelands with four different teams. She's from sligo.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on August 20, 2018, 06:25:23 PM
Galway were a team running on fumes yesterday and had no viable options to bring in really, Burke and Flynn were always going to come on but apart from them the bench was very bare. The job for Galway for the winter is to find those few extra players, Fintan Burke was immense for the u21s this year, I'm sure we'll see him and a few more brought in for the league. Disappointing to lose but losing to a team like Limerick who were in a similar position to ourselves last year makes it a bit easier. Well done Limerick!
Galway were very lucky with injuries last year especially down the spine of the team. I think we should get another all Ireland if the panel is boosted and injuries to key personnel are avoided.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: NAG1 on August 21, 2018, 09:50:05 AM
Galway were a team running on fumes yesterday and had no viable options to bring in really, Burke and Flynn were always going to come on but apart from them the bench was very bare. The job for Galway for the winter is to find those few extra players, Fintan Burke was immense for the u21s this year, I'm sure we'll see him and a few more brought in for the league. Disappointing to lose but losing to a team like Limerick who were in a similar position to ourselves last year makes it a bit easier. Well done Limerick!
Galway were very lucky with injuries last year especially down the spine of the team. I think we should get another all Ireland if the panel is boosted and injuries to key personnel are avoided.

Congrats to Limerick, was not a classic by any stretch but they wont give a hoot today. I called it for Galway but they did exactly what was feared and couldnt bring the intensity to match Limerick.

Still plenty left in that Galway team for a couple of years at least and there doesnt seem to be any slowing of the conveyor belt of talent either.

I think this opens it up perfectly for next year with 3/4 teams thinking they have a realistic shot at winning it.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on August 21, 2018, 10:01:14 AM
Galway were a team running on fumes yesterday and had no viable options to bring in really, Burke and Flynn were always going to come on but apart from them the bench was very bare. The job for Galway for the winter is to find those few extra players, Fintan Burke was immense for the u21s this year, I'm sure we'll see him and a few more brought in for the league. Disappointing to lose but losing to a team like Limerick who were in a similar position to ourselves last year makes it a bit easier. Well done Limerick!
Galway were very lucky with injuries last year especially down the spine of the team. I think we should get another all Ireland if the panel is boosted and injuries to key personnel are avoided.

Congrats to Limerick, was not a classic by any stretch but they wont give a hoot today. I called it for Galway but they did exactly what was feared and couldnt bring the intensity to match Limerick.

Still plenty left in that Galway team for a couple of years at least and there doesnt seem to be any slowing of the conveyor belt of talent either.

I think this opens it up perfectly for next year with 3/4 teams thinking they have a realistic shot at winning it.
Limerick
Galway
Cork
Clare
Kilkenny
Waterford
Tipperary

All of those teams would think they have a realistic shot at winning it.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on August 21, 2018, 02:03:13 PM
I'm back home in Manchester after watching Galway loose to Monaghan, Dublin & Limerick so a very disappointing few weeks for me; Couldn't make it to Thurles for the semi so missed out on that too. Its very rare that anyone outside of the big 3 in Hurling or big 2 in Football that any other counties have an opportunity to win back to backs in either code so Sunday was naturally a disappointment.

Galway were very flat as were the fans, there was a huge difference in noise even when both teams were named in Croker. Galway needed to score a goal a lot earlier to get going, they desperately needed that spark that wasn't their for the first 70 minutes. I suspect its the 2 replays that did for Galway and they just weren't able to match a fresher Limerick team but we'll never know. The defence of the crown would have been planned meticulously but wouldn't have accounted for replays, I'm sure if O'Donoghue had known about the replays in advance he'd have given more game time to the fringe players during the round robin.

Looking forward to next year there's no reason why Galway shouldn't be challenging again, they'll need a few players to be pushing closer to that starting 15 and a few minor tactical changes but there's no rebuild required at all. The bookies have Galway favourites at are 5/2 for next year with Limerick next at 9/2.


Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on August 21, 2018, 02:32:42 PM
The GAA have handed September to club games and other sports. It is still quite warm and a while before back to school. It will take a bit of getting used to.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: didlyi on August 22, 2018, 07:31:26 PM
I'm back home in Manchester after watching Galway loose to Monaghan, Dublin & Limerick so a very disappointing few weeks for me; Couldn't make it to Thurles for the semi so missed out on that too. Its very rare that anyone outside of the big 3 in Hurling or big 2 in Football that any other counties have an opportunity to win back to backs in either code so Sunday was naturally a disappointment.

Galway were very flat as were the fans, there was a huge difference in noise even when both teams were named in Croker. Galway needed to score a goal a lot earlier to get going, they desperately needed that spark that wasn't their for the first 70 minutes. I suspect its the 2 replays that did for Galway and they just weren't able to match a fresher Limerick team but we'll never know. The defence of the crown would have been planned meticulously but wouldn't have accounted for replays, I'm sure if O'Donoghue had known about the replays in advance he'd have given more game time to the fringe players during the round robin.

Looking forward to next year there's no reason why Galway shouldn't be challenging again, they'll need a few players to be pushing closer to that starting 15 and a few minor tactical changes but there's no rebuild required at all. The bookies have Galway favourites at are 5/2 for next year with Limerick next at 9/2.

So what is is with Galway fans? They had good turnouts for the round robin games and I think they probably outnumbered Clare fans in the first match. Then all of a sudden when the cracks appeared, Clare outnumbered them 3 to 1 in the second game (some tickets still available) and demand for the final was nothing like it was last year in Galway. And needless to mention the football v Dublin?
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 22, 2018, 08:39:03 PM
I'm back home in Manchester after watching Galway loose to Monaghan, Dublin & Limerick so a very disappointing few weeks for me; Couldn't make it to Thurles for the semi so missed out on that too. Its very rare that anyone outside of the big 3 in Hurling or big 2 in Football that any other counties have an opportunity to win back to backs in either code so Sunday was naturally a disappointment.

Galway were very flat as were the fans, there was a huge difference in noise even when both teams were named in Croker. Galway needed to score a goal a lot earlier to get going, they desperately needed that spark that wasn't their for the first 70 minutes. I suspect its the 2 replays that did for Galway and they just weren't able to match a fresher Limerick team but we'll never know. The defence of the crown would have been planned meticulously but wouldn't have accounted for replays, I'm sure if O'Donoghue had known about the replays in advance he'd have given more game time to the fringe players during the round robin.

Looking forward to next year there's no reason why Galway shouldn't be challenging again, they'll need a few players to be pushing closer to that starting 15 and a few minor tactical changes but there's no rebuild required at all. The bookies have Galway favourites at are 5/2 for next year with Limerick next at 9/2.

So what is is with Galway fans? They had good turnouts for the round robin games and I think they probably outnumbered Clare fans in the first match. Then all of a sudden when the cracks appeared, Clare outnumbered them 3 to 1 in the second game (some tickets still available) and demand for the final was nothing like it was last year in Galway. And needless to mention the football v Dublin?
Galway film fleadh
Arts festival
Races

Then a family holiday
Summers in Galway are expensive

They played 8 games this summer.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on August 22, 2018, 09:07:57 PM
Galway were a team running on fumes yesterday and had no viable options to bring in really, Burke and Flynn were always going to come on but apart from them the bench was very bare. The job for Galway for the winter is to find those few extra players, Fintan Burke was immense for the u21s this year, I'm sure we'll see him and a few more brought in for the league. Disappointing to lose but losing to a team like Limerick who were in a similar position to ourselves last year makes it a bit easier. Well done Limerick!
Galway were very lucky with injuries last year especially down the spine of the team. I think we should get another all Ireland if the panel is boosted and injuries to key personnel are avoided.

Ah, these things happen in cycles. Galway will probably have to wait a quarter of a century for the next one!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on August 22, 2018, 09:50:38 PM
I still think they will be the team to beat and they will be hungrier next year. They are still young enough too and have a conveyor belt of minor talent coming through.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on August 23, 2018, 10:07:42 AM
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/waterford-eye-up-double-all-ireland-winner-as-new-boss-to-replace-derek-mcgrath-37243017.html
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on August 23, 2018, 10:09:42 AM
Galway were a team running on fumes yesterday and had no viable options to bring in really, Burke and Flynn were always going to come on but apart from them the bench was very bare. The job for Galway for the winter is to find those few extra players, Fintan Burke was immense for the u21s this year, I'm sure we'll see him and a few more brought in for the league. Disappointing to lose but losing to a team like Limerick who were in a similar position to ourselves last year makes it a bit easier. Well done Limerick!
Galway were very lucky with injuries last year especially down the spine of the team. I think we should get another all Ireland if the panel is boosted and injuries to key personnel are avoided.

Ah, these things happen in cycles. Galway will probably have to wait a quarter of a century for the next one!
Wouldn’t ye be more than happy with that?

https://youtu.be/0ver0lMNMgw

Last year was magical
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: didlyi on August 23, 2018, 02:38:15 PM
Galway still dont have a real goal treat in their forwards. Sure one of them pops up from time to time but they are lacking  a permananet threat in the full forward line. They have won alot fo games firing over points from way out the field. That didnt work on Sunday and there seemed to be no plan B.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: mouview on August 23, 2018, 04:01:43 PM
Galway still dont have a real goal treat in their forwards. Sure one of them pops up from time to time but they are lacking  a permananet threat in the full forward line. They have won alot fo games firing over points from way out the field. That didnt work on Sunday and there seemed to be no plan B.

Not quite true; they scored more goals this year than last. Whelan, Conor Cooney, Cathal Mannion, JC, even Glynn, more than capable of hitting the net. It's a tactical approach that needs to be worked on. In the opening games v Offaly and KK they seemed to be more consciously going for goals, but that seemed to fade as the year wore on.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on August 26, 2018, 06:12:47 PM
Odd game here. Tipp were 1-05 to 0-01 up after 15 minutes. After 30 minutes they trail 1-09 to 1-06.
Great goal from Cork.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Minder on August 26, 2018, 07:05:31 PM
Big shock Tipp winning
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 26, 2018, 07:11:16 PM
Big shock Tipp winning

Mighty shot in the arm for Tipp. Serious guts in that team.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: SHEEDY on August 26, 2018, 07:20:20 PM
great scenes on the field at the end. great win for tipp.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Orchard park on August 26, 2018, 08:41:50 PM
I attended it.  Awful reffing , Mark Coleman avoided a 2nd yellow when the ref was only one at the game didn't see him foul .... Dalton the Cprk no 1q the mouthiest  tool i have seen in a long time.

Hungrier team won.

Will Liam Cahill get the shout now ??
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 26, 2018, 09:06:08 PM
I attended it.  Awful reffing , Mark Coleman avoided a 2nd yellow when the ref was only one at the game didn't see him foul .... Dalton the Cprk no 1q the mouthiest  tool i have seen in a long time.

Hungrier team won.

Will Liam Cahill get the shout now ??

There will be a groundswell of support alright, especially when you consider the John Kiely factor in Limerick.

I wouldn’t be Cahill’s biggest fan given his attitude towards the big ball, but in fairness to him he has delivered at underage and deserves the top gig if he wants it.

Agree on the refereeing. It looked like he was going to allow everything go, and he just ignored steps completely.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Minder on August 26, 2018, 09:13:02 PM
I attended it.  Awful reffing , Mark Coleman avoided a 2nd yellow when the ref was only one at the game didn't see him foul .... Dalton the Cprk no 1q the mouthiest  tool i have seen in a long time.

Hungrier team won.

Will Liam Cahill get the shout now ??

There will be a groundswell of support alright, especially when you consider the John Kiely factor in Limerick.

I wouldn’t be Cahill’s biggest fan given his attitude towards the big ball, but in fairness to him he has delivered at underage and deserves the top gig if he wants it.

Agree on the refereeing. It looked like he was going to allow everything go, and he just ignored steps completely.

Not sure there is a ref out there who enforces anything even close to the steps rule
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Orchard park on August 26, 2018, 10:09:50 PM
Steps was least of the awful reffing today. The mark Coleman incident was farcical and could have cost tipp the game
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: spuds on August 26, 2018, 10:53:45 PM
Steps was least of the awful reffing today. The mark Coleman incident was farcical and could have cost tipp the game
Really poor decision, was blatantly clear that Colman had repeated the pull down he has committed for the 1st half penalty.

They said on commentary that only 9 frees given in first half which I found interesting.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Orchard park on August 26, 2018, 10:58:04 PM
Coleman was about to walk himself looking at his body language when the No 5 was pulled up instead.

I hate laughing refs ever since that cnut Dickie Murphy
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 26, 2018, 11:06:51 PM
Coleman was about to walk himself looking at his body language when the No 5 was pulled up instead.

I hate laughing refs ever since that cnut Dickie Murphy

True!!
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: mouview on August 27, 2018, 12:08:03 AM
I attended it.  Awful reffing , Mark Coleman avoided a 2nd yellow when the ref was only one at the game didn't see him foul .... Dalton the Cprk no 1q the mouthiest  tool i have seen in a long time.

Hungrier team won.

Will Liam Cahill get the shout now ??

There will be a groundswell of support alright, especially when you consider the John Kiely factor in Limerick.

I wouldn’t be Cahill’s biggest fan given his attitude towards the big ball, but in fairness to him he has delivered at underage and deserves the top gig if he wants it.

Agree on the refereeing. It looked like he was going to allow everything go, and he just ignored steps completely.

Not sure there is a ref out there who enforces anything even close to the steps rule

In the Leinster final the Galway goalie was penalised for taking puck-outs outside the small square. No U-21 goalie has been pulled for it since as far as I can see, despite a number of transgressions.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 27, 2018, 11:05:41 AM
You'd wonder who is head of hurling referees?
There are a number of glaring issues which need to be improved

'All is grand lads, nothing to see here'
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on August 27, 2018, 01:14:43 PM
This is very good

https://amp.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/he-came-into-my-head-a-couple-of-times-during-the-week-of-course-i-was-thinking-of-him-nickie-quaids-tribute-to-father-37252085.html
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: johnnycool on August 28, 2018, 11:08:35 AM
I attended it.  Awful reffing , Mark Coleman avoided a 2nd yellow when the ref was only one at the game didn't see him foul .... Dalton the Cprk no 1q the mouthiest  tool i have seen in a long time.

Hungrier team won.

Will Liam Cahill get the shout now ??

Didn't get to see the game but that was some turn around for Tipp from the walloping they took in the Munster final getting "bate out the gate" by 13 points, almost double scores.

As for Cork have they anyone else on that team with something to offer the seniors who isn't already there?

If they can refine the Dalton lad a bit, he could offer that bit of an edge that their current set of forwards don't have.

Thought the Tipp fullback was a clinker in the game with Galway (as was the Galway fullback TBF) and may need blooded sooner rather than later at senior level.
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: Roashter on August 28, 2018, 08:21:10 PM
Tipp fullback is a brother to Noel/John McGrath and looks fairly promising
Dalton has serious power but he seemed to lack pace on Sunday. In saying that his leg was very heavily strapped so he probably wasn't at full flight
Title: Re: Hurling championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on August 28, 2018, 08:25:07 PM
Tipp fullback is a brother to Noel/John McGrath and looks fairly promising
Dalton has serious power but he seemed to lack pace on Sunday. In saying that his leg was very heavily strapped so he probably wasn't at full flight

Brian McGrath is the latest of the McGrath production line. He's a much different cat to the brothers though. Strong under a high ball, good striker, but not nearly as wristy or knacky as the two lads. A hard worker but is a bit limited for pace, which may come against him at senior level.