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Title: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 10, 2018, 11:01:34 AM
Is it alive or dead? If we didn't play it would anyone care?

Anyway The State Council have determined that both Leinster Semi-Finals will be played in Croke Park, which means dearer ticket prices from last year as we now have to pay for a double header. Just bollix really. 

Leinster G.A.A. S.F.C. 2018
1.    Laois    v    Wexford     12.5.2018    Innovate Wexford Park    6.30pm
2.    Louth    v    Carlow     13.5.2018     O’Moore Park     2.00pm
3.    Offaly    v    Wicklow     13.5.2018     O’Moore Park     4.00pm

Probably looking at Laois, Louth and Offaly to progress.

QUARTER FINALS:
4.    Laois/Wexford    v    Westmeath     26/27.5.2018     TBC    
5.    Louth/Carlow    v    Kildare     26/27.5.2018    TBC    
6    Offaly/Wicklow    v    Dublin     26/27.5.2108    TBC    
7    Longford    v    Meath     26/27.5.2018    TBC    

Laois v Westmeath will be hard to call, Laois will have momentum of a good league (Div 4 caveat) and a championship win, Westmeath arguably the best Leinster team of the last 4 years outside the Financial Dopers will not be phased. Tullamore will be the venue and Westmeath to shade. Will be a good game for the neutral.

Louth v Kildare. Should be a double header with the above, Kildare even though had a poor league should benefit from the higher level and can score freely against teams at their level or below. Kildare to win.

Longford v Meath. Venue will be interesting, Cusack park would be a good choice. Tight ground would suit Longford who would be more physical than Meath. Not easy to call, would fancy Longford in a tight ground.


 SEMI FINALS:
8.    4    v    5     10.6.2018     Croke Park    2.00pm
9.    6    v    7     10.6.2018     Croke Park     4.00pm

Westmeath v Kildare.  Again hard to call, Kildare's Division 1 experience to shade it. It will be a soulless game played in an empty Croke Park. With so many games with no outstanding favourites the Leinster Championship would be a great comp if only....

Nice for Longford players to play in Croke Park in the other semi.

FINAL:    8     v    9     24.6.2018     Croke Park     4.00pm

Meh!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Rossfan on April 10, 2018, 11:06:16 AM
Both Semis should be outside Croke Park but I suppose Dublin can't be asked to move twice while the Corporates/Príomh etc need to have an adequate number of occasions in Croker.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on April 10, 2018, 12:01:03 PM
Both Semis should be outside Croke Park but I suppose Dublin can't be asked to move twice while the Corporates/Príomh etc need to have an adequate number of occasions in Croker.
Sure they have the Christy Ring/Rackard/Meagher cup finals on there the previous weekend, I'm sure that'll do them as they'll hardly be missing those  ::)

Ridiculous that the Leinster semis are back in front of a half empty Croke Park, the hurling semis have done much better out of it and the football should be likewise. But Dublin must be indulged I suppose.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on April 10, 2018, 12:02:09 PM
Are Dublin any use?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: RedHand88 on April 10, 2018, 01:03:26 PM
Are Dublin any use?

I hear of people putting a lock of euro on them but I dunno...
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 10, 2018, 01:08:18 PM
I heard they might be vulnerable away from Croke Park.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 10, 2018, 01:11:02 PM
I reckon Carlow might beat Louth.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 10, 2018, 01:17:00 PM
I reckon Carlow might beat Louth.

Laois fairly squashed that bubble. Louth will have too much for them. A good news story but they have still a long way to go.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on April 10, 2018, 01:17:57 PM
I reckon Carlow might beat Louth.
Me too. #carlowrising

Maybe Leinster could be divided into intermediate* and senior with the Dubs senior.
*not up to scratch and/or deep seated psychological issues
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 10, 2018, 01:28:14 PM
I reckon Carlow might beat Louth.
Me too. #carlowrising

Maybe Leinster could be divided into intermediate* and senior with the Dubs senior.
*not up to scratch and/or deep seated psychological issues

And maybe Galway should f**k off out of our business.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on April 10, 2018, 01:46:06 PM
I reckon Carlow might beat Louth.
Me too. #carlowrising

Maybe Leinster could be divided into intermediate* and senior with the Dubs senior.
*not up to scratch and/or deep seated psychological issues

And maybe Galway should f**k off out of our business.
In fairness Dinny the state of Leinster football is a system issue that impacts the quality of the championship overall. The Leinster final isn't worth the time any more.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Rossfan on April 10, 2018, 01:57:13 PM
Put the other 11 into a British Championship with London :D
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on April 10, 2018, 02:00:45 PM
Put the other 11 into a British Championship with London :D
Why, sure most of the West Brits we have here are in Dublin, it should be them instead.

And it'd be 10 besides as Kilkenny are already in that championship.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 10, 2018, 02:31:01 PM
I reckon Carlow might beat Louth.
Me too. #carlowrising

Maybe Leinster could be divided into intermediate* and senior with the Dubs senior.
*not up to scratch and/or deep seated psychological issues

And maybe Galway should f**k off out of our business.
In fairness Dinny the state of Leinster football is a system issue that impacts the quality of the championship overall. The Leinster final isn't worth the time any more.

Move Dublin out of the championship, if it's good enough for the Antrim, Kerry and Galway hurlers, rotate them with the other shite provinces and watch football in the true province grow. It was only after the most competitive period in Leinster Football history that the GAA decided to financial dope Dublin GAA because Laois/Westmeath couldn't be counted upon to put bums on seats.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on April 10, 2018, 02:35:44 PM
No shortage of bums in Laois & Westmeath.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on April 10, 2018, 03:49:27 PM

Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on April 10, 2018, 03:54:59 PM
I reckon Carlow might beat Louth.

Laois fairly squashed that bubble. Louth will have too much for them. A good news story but they have still a long way to go.
Not so sure about that. Louth played like a middle of the road Div 4 team this spring. Seven games seven defeats, scored on average 11 points per game and conceded 20 per game.

Last summer Louth only beat Wicklow of Div 4 narrowly and were well bet by Meath and Longford.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Unlaoised on April 10, 2018, 04:01:20 PM
Some interesting ties before the Dubs get involved

Laois v Wexford will be close in wexford and if Laois win them and westmeath could be a cracker in portlaoise

Offaly should get over wicklow and it will be a mssive thing to host the Dubs in O'Connor park for them .

Carlow and Louth is a real even game and should get a good crowd in Portlaoise!

Longford could shock the Royals in Pearse stadium.

Kildare Should win their two games and get to the leinster final ...

Maybe just maybe they can keep it competitive this year!

Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 10, 2018, 04:29:52 PM
Leinster football at the moment


Kilkenny - Still missing in action
Laois - Somehow allowed themselves to fall to Division 4. 
Wexford - Division 3 was a level above them
Louth - Back to Division 3 with a bang
Carlow - Promoted to Division 3 but can they stay there?
Offaly - Good tradition but Division 3 is their level now
Wicklow - Bottom of Division 4
Westmeath - Division 3 side that likes to sample all Divisions
Longford - Division 3 team that loves the championship qualifiers
Kildare - Division 2 side that are out of their depth whenever they get promoted to Division 1   
Meath - Division 2 side that doesn't know if they are coming or going
Dublin - The best team in Ireland in the weakest province   
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on April 10, 2018, 04:37:09 PM
So it's really the Division 3 summer league plus hangers on
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on April 10, 2018, 05:28:58 PM
Someone had a chart a while ago about championship attendances and they are back to 2001 levels when the qualifiers were first introduced.
The LFC is in very bad shape and the standard in Ulster isn't great either.
The GAA is very complacent . 
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on April 10, 2018, 09:40:15 PM
I think Dublin could cause one or two surprises in Leinster this year. The draw suits them.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on April 10, 2018, 11:49:32 PM
If Offaly beat Dublin it'll blow the championship wide open.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on April 11, 2018, 10:08:14 AM
I like that Dinny didn't even bother to 'preview' the potential Offaly Dublin Q/F :)
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: larryin89 on April 11, 2018, 10:19:21 AM
Are dublin due an away game or is it just a neutral venue ?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on April 11, 2018, 10:32:41 AM
Are dublin due an away game or is it just a neutral venue ?
Hopefully Tullamore.

As with all Leinster venue choices, Dublin are only 1/12th to be blamed, if it goes somewhere else. We don't get a bigger say. For example, Nowlan Park would be a perfect neutral venue for a Leinster semi involving Dublin, but all the non-competing counties will always pick Croker because it generates extra money for their coffers.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Rossfan on April 11, 2018, 12:34:01 PM
If Leinster Council move the Semi Final you'd have John Costello  belly aching about the thousands who wont be able to see their team in action......
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on April 11, 2018, 06:43:32 PM
Some interesting ties before the Dubs get involved

Laois v Wexford will be close in wexford and if Laois win them and westmeath could be a cracker in portlaoise

Offaly should get over wicklow and it will be a mssive thing to host the Dubs in O'Connor park for them .

Carlow and Louth is a real even game and should get a good crowd in Portlaoise!

Longford could shock the Royals in Pearse stadium.

Kildare Should win their two games and get to the leinster final ...

Maybe just maybe they can keep it competitive this year!

Offaly got f*cked over in more than one way. Were drawn out first denoting home advantage. If Offaly beat Wicklow, they were also to get home advantage. Both games are on in O’Moore Park.  :-[
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: larryin89 on April 11, 2018, 06:49:00 PM
Some interesting ties before the Dubs get involved

Laois v Wexford will be close in wexford and if Laois win them and westmeath could be a cracker in portlaoise

Offaly should get over wicklow and it will be a mssive thing to host the Dubs in O'Connor park for them .

Carlow and Louth is a real even game and should get a good crowd in Portlaoise!

Longford could shock the Royals in Pearse stadium.

Kildare Should win their two games and get to the leinster final ...

Maybe just maybe they can keep it competitive this year!

Offaly got f*cked over in more than one way. Were drawn out first denoting home advantage. If Offaly beat Wicklow, they were also to get home advantage. Both games are on in O’Moore Park.  :-[

Why ?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on April 11, 2018, 06:49:58 PM
Some interesting ties before the Dubs get involved

Laois v Wexford will be close in wexford and if Laois win them and westmeath could be a cracker in portlaoise

Offaly should get over wicklow and it will be a mssive thing to host the Dubs in O'Connor park for them .

Carlow and Louth is a real even game and should get a good crowd in Portlaoise!

Longford could shock the Royals in Pearse stadium.

Kildare Should win their two games and get to the leinster final ...

Maybe just maybe they can keep it competitive this year!

Offaly got f*cked over in more than one way. Were drawn out first denoting home advantage. If Offaly beat Wicklow, they were also to get home advantage. Both games are on in O’Moore Park.  :-[

Our county board keep bending over like this. Why not fight for games in one of the better provincial grounds?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 11, 2018, 06:57:36 PM
Are dublin due an away game or is it just a neutral venue ?
Hopefully Tullamore.

As with all Leinster venue choices, Dublin are only 1/12th to be blamed, if it goes somewhere else. We don't get a bigger say. For example, Nowlan Park would be a perfect neutral venue for a Leinster semi involving Dublin, but all the non-competing counties will always pick Croker because it generates extra money for their coffers.

I agree and disagree, it would help if your fans traveled. The reality is realtively speaking they don't so the State Council stick you in Croke Park and the rest of us suffer.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Unlaoised on April 12, 2018, 04:54:02 PM
So if Offaly beat Wicklow its in O'Moore park v Dublin????

I heard Tullamore!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on April 13, 2018, 11:17:59 PM
Longford beating Meath won’t be a shock and the venue won’t make a huge difference. We don’t have the talent to do anything to begin with and there’s more talk of lads leaving the squad since the league ended. Longford are looking more and more like a worthwhile bet at 5/2.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 17, 2018, 12:03:47 PM
Less than 4 weeks now, salivating at the prospect of who's going to finish runners up..
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on April 17, 2018, 01:19:14 PM
Longford beating Meath won’t be a shock and the venue won’t make a huge difference. We don’t have the talent to do anything to begin with and there’s more talk of lads leaving the squad since the league ended. Longford are looking more and more like a worthwhile bet at 5/2.

I remember Carlow were expected to beat us in '96 and we went on to win the All-Ireland.
Could history repeat itself, I wonder?













Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Rossfan on April 17, 2018, 01:24:28 PM
Less than 4 weeks now, salivating at the prospect of who's going to finish runners up..
Time to let the other 10 play for the Leinster Intermediate Championship and a big shiny cup. Winners play Dublin in the Senior Final..
Sadly.....
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 17, 2018, 01:41:11 PM
Less than 4 weeks now, salivating at the prospect of who's going to finish runners up..
Time to let the other 10 play for the Leinster Intermediate Championship and a big shiny cup. Winners play Dublin in the Senior Final..
Sadly.....

You probably should expand that to an All-Ireland Intermediate. Winners play Dublin in the Senior Final. Because you are all just as shit as the rest of Leinster, we don't pretend any different.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Rossfan on April 17, 2018, 01:45:03 PM
No we're not.
At least we all got points in the NFL. :P
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 17, 2018, 01:47:08 PM
No we're not.
At least we all got points in the NFL. :P

Meh! At a lower level.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Rossfan on April 19, 2018, 10:03:29 AM
Sorry to introduce hurley stuff but does anyone know if the Leinster or Minster Councils are doing any kind of ticket packages for the Round Robin games?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Unlaoised on April 19, 2018, 03:35:46 PM
I think the race to get to the final on on side is interesting this year....

Laois v Wexford is an open game with the winners v westmeath also being even ish.....

Westmeath will probably come through that and might even rattle the lilly whites who will dispose of Carlow or Louth (an interesting tie in itself)

Wicklow v Offaly is massive for the winners and a big pay day v the dubs!

Longford v Meath seems to be a tighter match match the closer it gets!

Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on April 19, 2018, 03:50:15 PM
Less than 4 weeks now, salivating at the prospect of who's going to finish runners up..
Time to let the other 10 play for the Leinster Intermediate Championship and a big shiny cup. Winners play Dublin in the Senior Final..
Sadly.....

You probably should expand that to an All-Ireland Intermediate. Winners play Dublin in the Senior Final. Because you are all just as shit as the rest of Leinster, we don't pretend any different.

The facts don't back that up though:

2017 Quarter Finalists:
Connacht x 3
Ulster x 3
Leinster x 1
Munster x 1

2016 Quarter Finalists:
Connacht x 2
Ulster x 2
Leinster x 1
Munster x 3

2015 Quarter Finalists:
Connacht x 1
Ulster x 4
Leinster x 2
Munster x 1

So over the past 3 years, you're looking at:

2017 Quarter Finalists:
Connacht x 6
Ulster x 9
Leinster x 4
Munster x 5

Even looking at the league standings for next year:
Connacht: 3 x D1, 1 x D3 & 2 x D4
Ulster: 3 x D1, 3 x D2, 1 x D3 & 1 x D4
Leinster: 1 x D1, 2 x D2, 6 x D3 & 2 x D4
Munster: 1 x D1, 3 x D2 & 2 x D4
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 19, 2018, 07:29:19 PM
Less than 4 weeks now, salivating at the prospect of who's going to finish runners up..
Time to let the other 10 play for the Leinster Intermediate Championship and a big shiny cup. Winners play Dublin in the Senior Final..
Sadly.....

You probably should expand that to an All-Ireland Intermediate. Winners play Dublin in the Senior Final. Because you are all just as shit as the rest of Leinster, we don't pretend any different.

The facts don't back that up though:

2017 Quarter Finalists:
Connacht x 3
Ulster x 3
Leinster x 1
Munster x 1

2016 Quarter Finalists:
Connacht x 2
Ulster x 2
Leinster x 1
Munster x 3

2015 Quarter Finalists:
Connacht x 1
Ulster x 4
Leinster x 2
Munster x 1

So over the past 3 years, you're looking at:

2017 Quarter Finalists:
Connacht x 6
Ulster x 9
Leinster x 4
Munster x 5

Even looking at the league standings for next year:
Connacht: 3 x D1, 1 x D3 & 2 x D4
Ulster: 3 x D1, 3 x D2, 1 x D3 & 1 x D4
Leinster: 1 x D1, 2 x D2, 6 x D3 & 2 x D4
Munster: 1 x D1, 3 x D2 & 2 x D4
Yes the good old Leinster football championship with the strongest team in Ireland in the weakest province.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 20, 2018, 12:03:32 AM
Less than 4 weeks now, salivating at the prospect of who's going to finish runners up..
Time to let the other 10 play for the Leinster Intermediate Championship and a big shiny cup. Winners play Dublin in the Senior Final..
Sadly.....

You probably should expand that to an All-Ireland Intermediate. Winners play Dublin in the Senior Final. Because you are all just as shit as the rest of Leinster, we don't pretend any different.

The facts don't back that up though:

2017 Quarter Finalists:
Connacht x 3
Ulster x 3
Leinster x 1
Munster x 1

2016 Quarter Finalists:
Connacht x 2
Ulster x 2
Leinster x 1
Munster x 3

2015 Quarter Finalists:
Connacht x 1
Ulster x 4
Leinster x 2
Munster x 1

So over the past 3 years, you're looking at:

2017 Quarter Finalists:
Connacht x 6
Ulster x 9
Leinster x 4
Munster x 5

Even looking at the league standings for next year:
Connacht: 3 x D1, 1 x D3 & 2 x D4
Ulster: 3 x D1, 3 x D2, 1 x D3 & 1 x D4
Leinster: 1 x D1, 2 x D2, 6 x D3 & 2 x D4
Munster: 1 x D1, 3 x D2 & 2 x D4

Meh! How many All-Ireland's have the other provinces won in the last 6 years? The problem isn't Leinster football, it's Dublin. Put Dublin and all their home games and all their financial resources in any other province and you would all be just as shite. Freakonomics could probably a do a podcast on it.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Rossfan on April 20, 2018, 12:09:12 AM
Never mind Dublin.
There are still 4 Qtr Final places through the Qualifiers.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: tippabu on April 20, 2018, 11:44:19 AM
Less than 4 weeks now, salivating at the prospect of who's going to finish runners up..
Time to let the other 10 play for the Leinster Intermediate Championship and a big shiny cup. Winners play Dublin in the Senior Final..
Sadly.....

You probably should expand that to an All-Ireland Intermediate. Winners play Dublin in the Senior Final. Because you are all just as shit as the rest of Leinster, we don't pretend any different.

The facts don't back that up though:

2017 Quarter Finalists:
Connacht x 3
Ulster x 3
Leinster x 1
Munster x 1

2016 Quarter Finalists:
Connacht x 2
Ulster x 2
Leinster x 1
Munster x 3

2015 Quarter Finalists:
Connacht x 1
Ulster x 4
Leinster x 2
Munster x 1

So over the past 3 years, you're looking at:

2017 Quarter Finalists:
Connacht x 6
Ulster x 9
Leinster x 4
Munster x 5

Even looking at the league standings for next year:
Connacht: 3 x D1, 1 x D3 & 2 x D4
Ulster: 3 x D1, 3 x D2, 1 x D3 & 1 x D4
Leinster: 1 x D1, 2 x D2, 6 x D3 & 2 x D4
Munster: 1 x D1, 3 x D2 & 2 x D4

Meh! How many All-Ireland's have the other provinces won in the last 6 years? The problem isn't Leinster football, it's Dublin. Put Dublin and all their home games and all their financial resources in any other province and you would all be just as shite. Freakonomics could probably a do a podcast on it.

Leinster is very much like Munster only there are more team and more poor teams in leinster. Dublin and Kerry are well out in front kildare, Meath and on their day westmeath and longford would be similar enough to tipp, cork, Clare. Then you have the rest.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 20, 2018, 03:07:01 PM
Never mind Dublin.
There are still 4 Qtr Final places through the Qualifiers.

+1 i think Dinny needs to get his hole rather than worrying about dublin all the time. Kildare should be qualifying for last 8 with all their resources. Poaching players from other counties over the last 30 years and trying to buy Declan Browne at it as well. They lads 4 lads who gave up professional sports to play with their county. Did the players get compensated for that?

Ah yes Dublin GAA, where no player ever leaves to play professionally, I wonder why?

Cause and effect! If Dublin were placed in Ulster, would Ulster get stronger or weaker? Personally I believe standards would rise short-term but soon the futility of it all would kick in and Ulster would return to where it came from...
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: The Hill is Blue on April 20, 2018, 06:02:18 PM
Never mind Dublin.
There are still 4 Qtr Final places through the Qualifiers.

+1 i think Dinny needs to get his hole rather than worrying about dublin all the time. Kildare should be qualifying for last 8 with all their resources. Poaching players from other counties over the last 30 years and trying to buy Declan Browne at it as well. They lads 4 lads who gave up professional sports to play with their county. Did the players get compensated for that?

Ah yes Dublin GAA, where no player ever leaves to play professionally, I wonder why?

Cause and effect! If Dublin were placed in Ulster, would Ulster get stronger or weaker? Personally I believe standards would rise short-term but soon the futility of it all would kick in and Ulster would return to where it came from...

Is that a broken record I hear?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on April 25, 2018, 01:18:12 PM
http://www.meathchronicle.ie/sport/gaa/articles/2018/04/20/4155043-meath-players-opt-out-of-/

Sean Tobin, Brian Conlon, Harry Rooney, Barry Dardis and David Toner have all left the Meath panel. Not sure if the latter two featured much this year but the other lads looked promising. Rooney hasn’t quite come back to the form he showed before traveling for a year but hopefully he’ll get back to it.

A few new faces were given a run out against Laois which we won well enough but it seems like we’ll start the championship with a number of lads who didn’t see any league action and probably weren’t in the squad at all.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on April 25, 2018, 01:39:38 PM
Conlon is the biggest loss out of that group for me.
He had the right mix of size and athletic ability and could do a job in defence or around midfield.
Hard to blame them, you're only young once.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: spuds on April 25, 2018, 01:59:57 PM
Conlon is the biggest loss out of that group for me.
He had the right mix of size and athletic ability and could do a job in defence or around midfield.
Hard to blame them, you're only young once.

You do not believe in reincarnation?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on April 25, 2018, 03:20:31 PM
Pearse park must have got the go ahead to host the Longford v Meath quarter final as I see tickets are on sale and tickets are 10 euro cheaper than the Connacht quarter final.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Orchard park on April 25, 2018, 03:31:08 PM
Never mind Dublin.
There are still 4 Qtr Final places through the Qualifiers.

+1 i think Dinny needs to get his hole rather than worrying about dublin all the time. Kildare should be qualifying for last 8 with all their resources. Poaching players from other counties over the last 30 years and trying to buy Declan Browne at it as well. They lads 4 lads who gave up professional sports to play with their county. Did the players get compensated for that?

Ah yes Dublin GAA, where no player ever leaves to play professionally, I wonder why?

Cause and effect! If Dublin were placed in Ulster, would Ulster get stronger or weaker? Personally I believe standards would rise short-term but soon the futility of it all would kick in and Ulster would return to where it came from...

Dinny

so no Dublin player ever left to try professional sport.........

is that what you are trying to preach..........another ewan mckenna financial doping load of dung.

put it out there if you think you can back it up
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 25, 2018, 08:11:52 PM
Never mind Dublin.
There are still 4 Qtr Final places through the Qualifiers.

+1 i think Dinny needs to get his hole rather than worrying about dublin all the time. Kildare should be qualifying for last 8 with all their resources. Poaching players from other counties over the last 30 years and trying to buy Declan Browne at it as well. They lads 4 lads who gave up professional sports to play with their county. Did the players get compensated for that?

Ah yes Dublin GAA, where no player ever leaves to play professionally, I wonder why?

Cause and effect! If Dublin were placed in Ulster, would Ulster get stronger or weaker? Personally I believe standards would rise short-term but soon the futility of it all would kick in and Ulster would return to where it came from...

Dinny

so no Dublin player ever left to try professional sport.........

is that what you are trying to preach..........another ewan mckenna financial doping load of dung.

put it out there if you think you can back it up

Financial doping in GAA is a reality, dung is denying that.

So how many ex-Dublin players in the AFL, you would think loads considering the production line? How many even trial? Kilkenny went out for two weeks and returned "home sick". The naivety of some posters still amazes. Next you'll be saying Dublin clubs don't look after country lads with accommodation and jobs  ::)
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 25, 2018, 08:13:05 PM
I see loads of Leinster players dropping off panels, cause and effect.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Orchard park on April 25, 2018, 08:18:36 PM
Never mind Dublin.
There are still 4 Qtr Final places through the Qualifiers.

+1 i think Dinny needs to get his hole rather than worrying about dublin all the time. Kildare should be qualifying for last 8 with all their resources. Poaching players from other counties over the last 30 years and trying to buy Declan Browne at it as well. They lads 4 lads who gave up professional sports to play with their county. Did the players get compensated for that?

Ah yes Dublin GAA, where no player ever leaves to play professionally, I wonder why?

Cause and effect! If Dublin were placed in Ulster, would Ulster get stronger or weaker? Personally I believe standards would rise short-term but soon the futility of it all would kick in and Ulster would return to where it came from...

Dinny

so no Dublin player ever left to try professional sport.........

is that what you are trying to preach..........another ewan mckenna financial doping load of dung.

put it out there if you think you can back it up

Financial doping in GAA is a reality, dung is denying that.

So how many ex-Dublin players in the AFL, you would think loads considering the production line? How many even trial? Kilkenny went out for two weeks and returned "home sick". The naivety of some posters still amazes. Next you'll be saying Dublin clubs don't look after country lads with accommodation and jobs  ::)

Yeah Kilkenny came home after 4 months not 2 weeks... came home to do teacher training,in pats !!!!!! Real financial doping.   Name the minor of the blast 6 years from Dublin who was fit for AFL?.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on April 30, 2018, 09:08:47 AM
Final score from a pitch opening in Granard yesterday evening: Longford 3-13 Cavan 0-16

Never read too much onto challenges but a win is a win. Longford were without 5-6 key players (and actually had to finish with 14 as we ran out of subs) so there is some concern about 4 weeks time. Some key players are trying to shake off injuries but there was some satisfaction taken from the way some fringe lads played yesterday.

Looking forward to the Royal Visit. Remember the last time we beat Meath in Leinster???? 1981..........and it was such a shock to Meath that they went off and had a serious review of where they were and decided the only option was to appoint a hurling lad with a fondness for herbs. His name was Sean Boylan.........never heard of him after that!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on April 30, 2018, 10:03:56 AM
Is that not a draw? Or is a draw a win?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Avondhu star on April 30, 2018, 10:08:13 AM
Never mind Dublin.
There are still 4 Qtr Final places through the Qualifiers.

+1 i think Dinny needs to get his hole rather than worrying about dublin all the time. Kildare should be qualifying for last 8 with all their resources. Poaching players from other counties over the last 30 years and trying to buy Declan Browne at it as well. They lads 4 lads who gave up professional sports to play with their county. Did the players get compensated for that?

No excuse but local incompetence for Kildare and  Meath not to be putting up strong competition for Dublin. I have heard of some Lucan lads evenlining out for the Leixlip clubs when Lucan were not playing.
Meath and Kildare have plenty big companies in the county to attract sponsorhip as well as big populations
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on April 30, 2018, 10:42:32 AM
Sorry. I'm an idiot!

Longford 3-13
Cavan 0-16
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on April 30, 2018, 03:26:10 PM
Final score from a pitch opening in Granard yesterday evening: Longford 3-13 Cavan 0-22

Never read too much onto challenges but a win is a win. Longford were without 5-6 key players (and actually had to finish with 14 as we ran out of subs) so there is some concern about 4 weeks time. Some key players are trying to shake off injuries but there was some satisfaction taken from the way some fringe lads played yesterday.

Looking forward to the Royal Visit. Remember the last time we beat Meath in Leinster???? 1981..........and it was such a shock to Meath that they went off and had a serious review of where they were and decided the only option was to appoint a hurling lad with a fondness for herbs. His name was Sean Boylan.........never heard of him after that!

We could be in trouble here.
Who are your main men now?
Please describe their strengths & weaknesses in detail.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on April 30, 2018, 05:13:24 PM
Quote
We could be in trouble here.
Who are your main men now?
Please describe their strengths & weaknesses in detail.

Sorry Jinxy. To paraphrase (was it?) Brian Mullins "No comment - and you're not allowed to quote me"
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Rossfan on April 30, 2018, 05:14:27 PM
Is this competition still going ahead this year?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on May 01, 2018, 11:51:46 AM
Quote
We could be in trouble here.
Who are your main men now?
Please describe their strengths & weaknesses in detail.

Sorry Jinxy. To paraphrase (was it?) Brian Mullins "No comment - and you're not allowed to quote me"

I was only joking anyway.
Sure everyone knows the Bardens are your main men.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 01, 2018, 04:19:32 PM
Indeed! Yes.....the Bardens!

Perhaps it's time for our own thread on the fixture............less chance then of Roscommon lads coming in and sneering  >:(
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 07, 2018, 09:18:52 PM
Electric Ireland Leinster MFC

OFFALY 1-13 WICKLOW 0-14

MEATH 2-20 WESTMEATH 2-7

KILDARE 1-17 WEXFORD 0-7

LAOIS 1-12 LONGFORD 0-11

DUBLIN 3-15 LOUTH 1-7

Didn't get to the Kildare game but Wexford according to reports, didn't score from play and indeed only had one shot from play. Dublin, Kildare and Meath win by 14,13 and 13 points respectively.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on May 07, 2018, 09:33:35 PM
I'd be hopeful we'll give the Dubs a good rattle the next day.
Big team, strong around the middle.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 12, 2018, 07:36:26 PM
Laois stinking up Wexford Park at the moment but a mini comeback perhaps.

5 mins into second half

Wexford 1-10
Laois 0-06
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 12, 2018, 07:44:37 PM
Laois are very disappointing Jeff. Unfortunately it's not unbelievable.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on May 12, 2018, 07:45:45 PM
Only 4pts in it now
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on May 12, 2018, 07:53:19 PM
2 in it with 10 to go. Great fightback.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 12, 2018, 07:56:48 PM
Was astonished to hear Laois were 10pts down but I'd put the money on them now to win
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on May 12, 2018, 08:00:45 PM
Was astonished to hear Laois were 10pts down but I'd put the money on them now to win
Gonna need a goal I think. 3 points in it now 68mins gone.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on May 12, 2018, 08:01:51 PM
Goal!!!! Sides are level!!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 12, 2018, 08:07:20 PM
Wex ahead
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on May 12, 2018, 08:09:33 PM
Draw again! Extra Time. Jaysis. Some comeback after being 10 points down at HT.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 12, 2018, 08:17:36 PM
So both sides won each half by 10 points? did Wexford kick a late penalty over the bar thinking time was up?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 12, 2018, 08:20:51 PM
Laois have not won two games consecutively in Leinster since 2007 . Jaysus
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on May 12, 2018, 08:29:46 PM
HT Extra Time
Laois 2-18
Wex 1-16
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: longballin on May 12, 2018, 08:34:16 PM
Laois have not won two games consecutively in Leinster since 2007 . Jaysus

ah the romance of not tiering the championship 
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on May 12, 2018, 08:43:02 PM
Laois are very disappointing Jeff. Unfortunately it's not unbelievable.

FT.
Laois 2-21
Wex 1-18

Unbelievable Jeff.............. ;D
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 12, 2018, 08:43:52 PM
Fierce excitement on midlands radio. Good win for Laois and happy for John Sugrue.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on May 12, 2018, 10:08:03 PM
I've never been a fan of teams taking a point when they get a penalty.
Go big or go home.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: twohands!!! on May 12, 2018, 11:05:32 PM
I've never been a fan of teams taking a point when they get a penalty.
Go big or go home.

Wexford paid the price today - wonder who made the call.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: johnpower on May 12, 2018, 11:26:18 PM
Some game . Seems like Donie Kingston was the main man . No doubt John Sugrue has made a big improvement to morale and performance
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 13, 2018, 07:37:07 AM
Looking forward to seeing the highlights on TSG tonight.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on May 13, 2018, 09:48:44 AM
Looking forward to seeing the highlights on TSG tonight.
We'll probably get about 15 seconds of highlights.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on May 13, 2018, 03:40:21 PM
I reckon Carlow might beat Louth.

Laois fairly squashed that bubble. Louth will have too much for them. A good news story but they have still a long way to go.
Carlow bubble not burst yet! FT Carlow 2-17 Louth 0-12
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 13, 2018, 08:36:58 PM
I reckon Carlow might beat Louth.

Laois fairly squashed that bubble. Louth will have too much for them. A good news story but they have still a long way to go.
Carlow bubble not burst yet! FT Carlow 2-17 Louth 0-12

Fair play. Fine result.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 13, 2018, 08:56:59 PM
The way they set up and tactical intelligence has them primed perfectly to beat Kildare and from there I wouldn't bet against them reaching a first Leinster final since 1944.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 15, 2018, 07:57:29 PM
Chaos in the Offaly camp by all accounts.

Losing to Wicklow was too much for some lads - one player, taken off in the first half, decided at half time and do a reverse Laz Molloy and eff off up to the stands. He was coaxed back (seemingly he has form having done something similar a few years earlier) but to no avail.

The new management team, in place less than a year, look like they may not see the Qualifiers. Cannot see an extended run in the AIQs for Offaly.........


Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 15, 2018, 08:33:19 PM
Time to amalgamate Meath and Offaly!!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 16, 2018, 09:22:56 AM
Chaos in the Offaly camp by all accounts.

Losing to Wicklow was too much for some lads - one player, taken off in the first half, decided at half time and do a reverse Laz Molloy and eff off up to the stands. He was coaxed back (seemingly he has form having done something similar a few years earlier) but to no avail.

The new management team, in place less than a year, look like they may not see the Qualifiers. Cannot see an extended run in the AIQs for Offaly.........

http://www.midlands103.com/sport-centre/serious-unrest-in-offaly-football-camp-after-loss-to-wicklow/ (http://www.midlands103.com/sport-centre/serious-unrest-in-offaly-football-camp-after-loss-to-wicklow/)
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 16, 2018, 09:45:04 AM
Chaos in the Offaly camp by all accounts.

Losing to Wicklow was too much for some lads - one player, taken off in the first half, decided at half time and do a reverse Laz Molloy and eff off up to the stands. He was coaxed back (seemingly he has form having done something similar a few years earlier) but to no avail.

The new management team, in place less than a year, look like they may not see the Qualifiers. Cannot see an extended run in the AIQs for Offaly.........
Schadenfreude.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 16, 2018, 09:55:15 AM
I was at the game, and while I'm not privy to the internal workings of the Offaly squad any more, I was remarking to my Da that the body language of the lads being taken off was not happy. More so than your usual 'Ah for Fecks sake'. I couldn't believe, on the day, in how they handled Nigel Dunne. He wasn't going well, he turned down relatively easy shots at goal from frees (including a ludicrous turnover when trying to go short from a free 30 metres out!), and a dropped short shot at goal. I wasn't surprised to see him being taken off, even though as a senior player you might prefer to give him at least half time to try and right himself.

Then to see him coming back on was bizarre, and if I was a forward on the bench I'd be asking 'what the hell is going on'? He then proceeded to miss another shot at goal, do yet another short free from 30 metres, and miss a penalty. His mind couldn't have been right.

They also brought off a clearly knackered Michael Brazil in midfield, and then brought him back on, with one of the best midfielders in the county on the bench, and remaining unused. In fact there were two subs unused (at least) who would have been obvious candidates for problems in midfield or the forwards. They are either not ready to go, in which case why on the 26?, or there was some other rationale behind their idleness.

They started a man back in the country for a few weeks, and it was obvious from his first action that he just wasn't ready or at the pitch of the game at all. He looked stiff, and his movement was so stilted. He looked like a lad that was stiff and sore. Couldn't extend his stride when running, and couldn't rotate his hips when he was trying to run with a ball carrier, to dispossess him.


At the game I couldn't understand what I was seeing, and we were remarking on it, and it makes a lot more sense now.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 17, 2018, 08:48:05 AM
What sort of attendances did the 3 Leinster Prelims attract??
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 21, 2018, 10:05:30 AM
Are we all set for the clash of Leinster's David versus well, Goliath's cousin, who used to be contender before his hair was cut off (mixing Biblical metaphors, I know)?

Longford haven't a great history versus Meath but, when we beat them in 1981, it caused such upset in the Meath camp they decided go mad and appoint some hurling lad from Dunboyne to make nettle soup for the team at half time......................an experiment that failed you will agree.

Since that time played twice and well beaten on both occasions.....1992 and 1995.

I am not sure we'll be good enough here. Meath may be going through a strange spell.....but unless they play shite altogether, they should get out of Pearse Park with a victory.

Winners play Dubs (apols Wicklows) in Croke Park. Could we see a slow bicycle race?



Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on May 21, 2018, 11:41:47 AM
I would expect us to win but I wouldn't be surprised if we didn't.
To be honest, I saw very little league football this year, but results would indicate we are as inconsistent as ever.
Hopefully Donal Lenihan continues to develop as he has the potential to be a top-class inside forward.
We need someone who can tie up a couple of defenders and create space for the likes of Graham Reilly coming through.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on May 21, 2018, 02:51:04 PM
I was at the game, and while I'm not privy to the internal workings of the Offaly squad any more, I was remarking to my Da that the body language of the lads being taken off was not happy. More so than your usual 'Ah for Fecks sake'. I couldn't believe, on the day, in how they handled Nigel Dunne. He wasn't going well, he turned down relatively easy shots at goal from frees (including a ludicrous turnover when trying to go short from a free 30 metres out!), and a dropped short shot at goal. I wasn't surprised to see him being taken off, even though as a senior player you might prefer to give him at least half time to try and right himself.

Then to see him coming back on was bizarre, and if I was a forward on the bench I'd be asking 'what the hell is going on'? He then proceeded to miss another shot at goal, do yet another short free from 30 metres, and miss a penalty. His mind couldn't have been right.

They also brought off a clearly knackered Michael Brazil in midfield, and then brought him back on, with one of the best midfielders in the county on the bench, and remaining unused. In fact there were two subs unused (at least) who would have been obvious candidates for problems in midfield or the forwards. They are either not ready to go, in which case why on the 26?, or there was some other rationale behind their idleness.

They started a man back in the country for a few weeks, and it was obvious from his first action that he just wasn't ready or at the pitch of the game at all. He looked stiff, and his movement was so stilted. He looked like a lad that was stiff and sore. Couldn't extend his stride when running, and couldn't rotate his hips when he was trying to run with a ball carrier, to dispossess him.


At the game I couldn't understand what I was seeing, and we were remarking on it, and it makes a lot more sense now.

Did you hear Wallace on the Parkinson podcast?

Certainly worth a listen for Offaly fans to get the other side of the story.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 21, 2018, 02:51:26 PM
I heard Meath cut through the Westmeath defence in the O'Byrne Cup final like a knife through butter so I am getting nervous. By all accounts Mickey Burke was on fire that day.

Meath are 5/2 on with the bookies. Fair enough.

Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on May 21, 2018, 04:51:09 PM
Sure Mickey Burke is on fire every day of week.

I reckon it’ll be as close as our game in the O’Byrne Cup. There won’t be much in it whatever way it goes. I don’t think we will have improved significantly from that game but who knows it’s hard to measure at this stage especially with all the panel changes.

I’d like to see Lenihan develop into a top quality full forward because we really need one. Scoring 2-08 in an O’Byrne Cup Final is great but we’ll have to wait and see if he can deliver in the big stage as he has a good league last year too but didn’t make much of an impact in the summer. Reilly and O’ Sullivan are obviously good for getting scores but they are more play makers.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on May 21, 2018, 04:58:35 PM
I was at the game, and while I'm not privy to the internal workings of the Offaly squad any more, I was remarking to my Da that the body language of the lads being taken off was not happy. More so than your usual 'Ah for Fecks sake'. I couldn't believe, on the day, in how they handled Nigel Dunne. He wasn't going well, he turned down relatively easy shots at goal from frees (including a ludicrous turnover when trying to go short from a free 30 metres out!), and a dropped short shot at goal. I wasn't surprised to see him being taken off, even though as a senior player you might prefer to give him at least half time to try and right himself.

Then to see him coming back on was bizarre, and if I was a forward on the bench I'd be asking 'what the hell is going on'? He then proceeded to miss another shot at goal, do yet another short free from 30 metres, and miss a penalty. His mind couldn't have been right.

They also brought off a clearly knackered Michael Brazil in midfield, and then brought him back on, with one of the best midfielders in the county on the bench, and remaining unused. In fact there were two subs unused (at least) who would have been obvious candidates for problems in midfield or the forwards. They are either not ready to go, in which case why on the 26?, or there was some other rationale behind their idleness.

They started a man back in the country for a few weeks, and it was obvious from his first action that he just wasn't ready or at the pitch of the game at all. He looked stiff, and his movement was so stilted. He looked like a lad that was stiff and sore. Couldn't extend his stride when running, and couldn't rotate his hips when he was trying to run with a ball carrier, to dispossess him.


At the game I couldn't understand what I was seeing, and we were remarking on it, and it makes a lot more sense now.

Did you hear Wallace on the Parkinson podcast?

Certainly worth a listen for Offaly fans to get the other side of the story.
Yeah, I’ve us all well informed on our own little forum.
I’m happy with our interim management team, they’ve already got lads back on board.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 23, 2018, 08:25:33 PM
Tonight's minor results

Carlow 0-2 Kildare 1-13
Meath 1-13 Dublin 2-8
Louth 6-9  Wicklow 5-12  :o
Westmeath 1-9 Offaly 1-12
Laois 0-11 Wexford 2-3

Carlow played 3 sweepers against Kildare. Like wtf!!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 23, 2018, 08:39:30 PM
If Joe Brolly finds out his head will explode.
I'm sure their senior counterparts will be a lot more competitive though. That being said I see Marty Clarke is looking for Poacher to take over Down and he would be a huge loss.
Big win for Meath, they have their act together at underage again.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 23, 2018, 08:49:17 PM
If Joe Brolly finds out his head will explode.
I'm sure their senior counterparts will be a lot more competitive though. That being said I see Marty Clarke is looking for Poacher to take over Down and he would be a huge loss.
Big win for Meath, they have their act together at underage again.

They have been decent the last few years, won the u17 Leinster last year and this years current bunch have been talked about for a while.

But it's how Dublin develop 19-21 year olds that sets them apart.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 23, 2018, 08:55:32 PM
If Joe Brolly finds out his head will explode.
I'm sure their senior counterparts will be a lot more competitive though. That being said I see Marty Clarke is looking for Poacher to take over Down and he would be a huge loss.
Big win for Meath, they have their act together at underage again.

They have been decent the last few years, won the u17 Leinster last year and this years current bunch have been talked about for a while.

But it's how Dublin develop 19-21 year olds that sets them apart.

And the lengths their senior players will go to make the panel and stay there.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 23, 2018, 09:15:06 PM
Meath is a big county with a big population that's still growing and they predominantly focus on Gaelic football which is a help too. Likewise with Kildare. Couldn't see anyone outside those two competing with the dubs in leinster
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on May 23, 2018, 09:42:22 PM
If Joe Brolly finds out his head will explode.
I'm sure their senior counterparts will be a lot more competitive though. That being said I see Marty Clarke is looking for Poacher to take over Down and he would be a huge loss.
Big win for Meath, they have their act together at underage again.

They have been decent the last few years, won the u17 Leinster last year and this years current bunch have been talked about for a while.

But it's how Dublin develop 19-21 year olds that sets them apart.

Sounds like Cian McBride dominated midfield this evening.
Hearing whispers the aussies are sniffing around him.  >:(
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Gael85 on May 23, 2018, 10:06:00 PM
If Joe Brolly finds out his head will explode.
I'm sure their senior counterparts will be a lot more competitive though. That being said I see Marty Clarke is looking for Poacher to take over Down and he would be a huge loss.
Big win for Meath, they have their act together at underage again.

They have been decent the last few years, won the u17 Leinster last year and this years current bunch have been talked about for a while.

But it's how Dublin develop 19-21 year olds that sets them apart.

And the lengths their senior players will go to make the panel and stay there.


What this now??
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 23, 2018, 10:17:55 PM


What this now??

I remember reading a piece on reservoirdubs during my winter boredom, it went like this:
Quote
I mentioned before xmas that Niall Scully and Shane Carthy were coming in to the job to do a Q&A session and I can’t remember if I posted some of what they had said. Both came across as really sound lads and the discussion was more open and honest than I expected.

Some of the highlights from their discussion: (most of it won’t come as a surprise, but here it is nonetheless):

    The Kerry result in the league final had no impact on the hunger the players had, they were hungry for Sam before the league campaign even began.
    Jim on the other hand wasn’t happy at all and took the head off 2 or 3 lads in a meeting after the Kerry game. The worst they’d ever seen him let rip.
    Scully had been dropped twice from the panel previously and literally decided to give it one last go in the O’Byrne Cup last year or he was heading to Australia. He couldn’t have been complimentary of the opportunity the O’Byrne Cup provided him.
    Jim is meticulous in everything he does and everything is thought out. There is no situation they have not discussed and prepared for, for example being a goal down heading in to injury time, playing with a man less etc. etc… They literally re-create these scenarios in training matches.
    Jim will regularly test the mentality of the lads by dropping them and wants to see the hunger that is there to continue or to regain the jersey
    They spoke about the diets and how strict they have to be… In relation to how closely that is monitored, they have scans every 3 months to measure body fat and if they are off doing their own thing (nutrition wise) they will be found out. They eat between 6-8 meals a day!
    They spoke about how close the competition is for places in the team and for example if they’re told that wearing a specific type of tights after training cause it’ll help them recover 1% faster, they’d wear 3 pairs to be ahead of the next man!
    They are well warned about social media and dealing with the media, any enquires get redirected to the media man in Parnell Park. Both said they pay no attention to any of it, they only care about what they can control.
    Scully has been told he needs to add about 6Kgs of muscle before the beginning of the league campaign.
    Neither were going to Gooch’s testimonial and couldn’t have cared less about it, they both assumed it was on in Kerry.

Nothing ground breaking but parts of it I found interesting especially how they recreate every scenario in training. Having seen Deano take a 45 to win a game in the training scenarios so many times neither had any doubt where he would put the free to win it against Mayo.


The pieces I bolded jumped out at me.

https://screenshots.firefox.com/uICeCtfLwSCggBZm/www.reservoirdubs.com
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 23, 2018, 10:32:19 PM
Tonight's minor results

Carlow 0-2 Kildare 1-13
Meath 1-13 Dublin 2-8
Louth 6-9  Wicklow 5-12  :o
Westmeath 1-9 Offaly 1-12
Laois 0-11 Wexford 2-3

Carlow played 3 sweepers against Kildare. Like wtf!!
:o
Louth and Wicklow must have played with 11 forwards and only 1 defender!!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on May 23, 2018, 11:32:04 PM
The link between adult and underage success can be a virtuous, or a vicious, circle.
Lets say Meath have better footballers than Dublin at minor level.
If we continue to struggle at senior level, how many of these lads will want to dedicate their lives to playing for Meath?
It's all those Dublin minors want to do.
And yet, if we can't get those lads to come through, we won't progress at senior level.
U-20 is the key grade really.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 24, 2018, 12:07:17 AM
What are Meath u20s like?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on May 24, 2018, 12:08:03 AM
It is challenging but with the right structures in place and top facilities, I think these players if they win at underage should hopefully have the belief in themselves to win at senior. Surely that desire to succeed doesn’t just go away. There will always be drop offs but hopefully we are building up enough of a talent reserve that it’ll will percolate into the seniors eventually.

Also Aussies can f**k off. They got Conor Nash so the hungry feckers can go steal some talent from Dublin or somewhere else. I
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on May 24, 2018, 12:00:56 PM
I would very much hope that the county board has a plan in place for managing the transition from minor to u-20.
The transition from u-20 to senior is less important in the short-medium term, as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dire Ear on May 25, 2018, 03:15:16 PM

To Win - Full Time
Dublin1/1000
   
Draw100/1
   
Wicklow33/1
Bet Victor !!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on May 26, 2018, 05:59:08 PM
HT
Laois 0-10
Westmeath 0-06
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on May 26, 2018, 06:36:25 PM
FT
Laois 4-13
Westmeath 1-12

Laois march on. 👍
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 27, 2018, 02:23:14 PM
Carlow holding their own so far. 22 mins played Carlow 1-4 kildare 1-3
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 27, 2018, 02:39:38 PM
HT Carlow 1-8 Kildare 1-3 a shock on the cards? Kildare haven't helped themselves by kicking 7 wides and missing a penalty.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 27, 2018, 02:42:54 PM
All set. Me nerves
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 27, 2018, 03:19:54 PM
Kildare 1-7 Carlow 1-11 55 mins played.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 27, 2018, 03:29:40 PM
Down to a one score game. Carlow 1-12 Kildare 1-9 65 mins played.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 27, 2018, 03:41:17 PM
FT Carlow 2-14 Kildare 1-10. Fantastic result for Carlow football they are certainly rising.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 27, 2018, 03:42:06 PM
Go Carlow.

Half time here 0-07 each but Meath look the better bet.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on May 27, 2018, 03:43:34 PM
Unreal result for Carlow fair play to them.
Laois v Carlow in semi final....
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on May 27, 2018, 03:45:23 PM
Well done carlow
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on May 27, 2018, 03:48:49 PM
That Carlow "bubble" is far from burst well done to them not only won but won pulling up...
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 27, 2018, 03:50:13 PM
Shocks like that makes cup competitions great. Congrats Carlow.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on May 27, 2018, 03:51:09 PM
 :o
Fair play to Carlow.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 27, 2018, 03:51:26 PM
Can we blame McGeeney for this defeat as well?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on May 27, 2018, 04:20:58 PM
60 mins gone Longford  0-14 Meath 0-10 and Meath are down to 14 men
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on May 27, 2018, 04:35:26 PM
Longford 0-16 Meath 0-14 71 mins played.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on May 27, 2018, 04:39:25 PM
FT Longford 0-16 Longford 0-14. Well done to the larries.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 27, 2018, 04:39:40 PM
Hooray
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on May 27, 2018, 04:40:51 PM
Brilliant. Well done Longford.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on May 27, 2018, 04:41:52 PM
Great win for the larries
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 27, 2018, 04:42:59 PM
Great stuff from Longford. Dublin 18 points ahead at HT if Wicklow are playing a blanket its full of holes.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: The Boy Wonder on May 27, 2018, 04:44:30 PM
Great weekend for the underdogs !

Now if only the Dubs would use the back door.......

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0524/965812-when-longford-were-kings-of-leinster/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0524/965812-when-longford-were-kings-of-leinster/)

Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 27, 2018, 05:09:27 PM
Meath and Kildare are the sick men of Leinster fuball but to see the 2 of them bet on the one day by Longford and Carlow is dochreidte.
What a day for the 2 counties.
I presume there was a Mullinalaghta input in the Meath match.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on May 27, 2018, 05:53:55 PM
Longford beating Meath won’t be a shock and the venue won’t make a huge difference. We don’t have the talent to do anything to begin with and there’s more talk of lads leaving the squad since the league ended. Longford are looking more and more like a worthwhile bet at 5/2.

Feck it, I shouldn’t have kept me money in me pocket.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 27, 2018, 06:07:08 PM
Kildare bounced back from similar losses to Wicklow in 2008 and Louth in 2010 to having good seasons but unlike McGeeney in those years there has been no signs of Dr Cian learning from his mistakes. We were set up perfectly for Carlow all year and nothing was done to come up with a plan to play with such a tricky opponent. Also the continuation of playing numerous players in roles that don't suit them and the late introduction of Eamon Callaghan was pathetic, he was once a good servant for Kildare football but hasn't had a good game in over 3 years and doesn't stand out at club level.

Hopefully Carlow make the final now and give Dublin another scare, they are the only team in Leinster smart enough to be competitive with them.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: LaurelEye on May 27, 2018, 06:28:57 PM
Meath and Kildare are the sick men of Leinster fuball but to see the 2 of them bet on the one day by Longford and Carlow is dochreidte.
What a day for the 2 counties.
I presume there was a Mullinalaghta input in the Meath match.

5 out of 15 starters (Fox, McElligott, two McGivneys and Brady) and 7 out of 16 points.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 27, 2018, 07:06:27 PM
Well done the Larries and Scallions.
Time to amalgamate or just abolish Meath and Kildare.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 27, 2018, 07:26:09 PM
Meath and Kildare are the sick men of Leinster fuball but to see the 2 of them bet on the one day by Longford and Carlow is dochreidte.
What a day for the 2 counties.
I presume there was a Mullinalaghta input in the Meath match.

5 out of 15 starters (Fox, McElligott, two McGivneys and Brady) and 7 out of 16 points.
Great experience.
Would come in handy in a theoretical Leinster Club Championship.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: tippabu on May 27, 2018, 09:09:23 PM
I expected longford to win today but Carlow beating kildare was a massive shock to me. Ill be honest i thought carlow were getting far too much credit for the last two years as they had really beaten nobody of note (Dublin and monaghan good performances i put down to them not playing 100%), after today i can say i was wrong, I rated kildare alot higher than they deserved and rated carlow still alot lot lower than they deserved. Brilliant win today and it would be great to see them make the leinster final now
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 27, 2018, 09:52:06 PM
Didn't honestly know what to expect today. But one thing I didn't expect was to see Meath line up the same way as our O'Byrne Cup semi-final. In other words 13 men behind the ball and letting Longford control large amount of possession. Had we been smarter with some shots we could have been home and hosed in second half. But Meath did miss perhaps 3 clear goal chances and they too had some bad wides. I didn't see the sending off - it certainly made a difference to Meath.

All in all a win - over a big boy which is rare. Meath supporters were very deflated all throughout. It was like they knew that Meath were in a bad place and that defeat was inevitable. But with 10 to go we were 5 up which Meath reduced to 1 so I was bricking it. A marvellous save from Longford goalie Paddy Colum with 4 to go was something special. Have Colum been playing for Liverpool last night.........

One question for the Meath boys. How can the county champions (Simonstown Gaels) have not one player on the entire panel?

Next up - the Dubs. First time we have not been in Rd1 of Qualifiers.

This will test us. Dublin are on the up so we'll have to play well to qualify for our first Leinster final in 50 years. If we keep an eye on one or two of their better than average players then it should be grand.

Already I have the LONGFORD - LEINSTER FINAL 2018 (V CARLOW) t-shirts ordered on some Chinese website. I'll take orders for anyone interested....
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: twohands!!! on May 27, 2018, 10:32:26 PM
The last team to get relegated from Division 1 with 7 losses (Down in 2016) lost both their championship games that year (to Monaghan and to Longford)

The draw tomorrow is crucial for Kildare.

Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 27, 2018, 10:34:21 PM
The last team to get relegated from Division 1 with 7 losses (Down in 2016) lost both their championship games that year (to Monaghan and to Longford)

The draw tomorrow is crucial for Kildare.

Doesn't really matter, O'Neill is finished regardless and getting the 2019 backroom team set up early would be nice.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 27, 2018, 10:44:42 PM
Congrats Carlow, full value for that win, mighty stuff (and Longford too)!  :D
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: twohands!!! on May 27, 2018, 10:51:55 PM
According to Dont Foul, Carlow scored 2-14 from 16 attempts - a 100% shooting return.
He tweeted he has nothing like it in his database of games.
You often hear of games where everything you hit goes over but Carlow managed this today.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: BennyCake on May 27, 2018, 11:09:46 PM
Longford v Carlow final. That'd be great.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on May 27, 2018, 11:35:32 PM
One question for the Meath boys. How can the county champions (Simonstown Gaels) have not one player on the entire panel?

First off, Well done Shamrock Shore and all the Larries.

Had a sinking feeling during the first half that is wasn’t going to be our day and it came to be.

As for your above question. I can think of about 5 players that lined out from Simonstown during the O’Byrne Cup and the League. Those include Sean Tobin, Mark McCabe, Brian Conlon, Robbie Burlingham and Padraig McKeever. I don’t know why each one left or was dropped but I think Tobin and McKeever dropped themselves.

Shane O’Rourke has finished with county football, if Conor Nash didn’t head for the AFL he’d probably be playing for Meath and Seamus Kenny also retired from County football a few years back.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Rossfan on May 28, 2018, 02:05:40 AM
The last team to get relegated from Division 1 with 7 losses (Down in 2016) lost both their championship games that year (to Monaghan and to Longford)

The draw tomorrow is crucial for Kildare.

Doesn't really matter, O'Neill is finished regardless and getting the 2019 backroom team set up early would be nice.
He seems to have been an expensive clueless chancery.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: LaurelEye on May 28, 2018, 02:34:40 AM
Meath and Kildare are the sick men of Leinster fuball but to see the 2 of them bet on the one day by Longford and Carlow is dochreidte.
What a day for the 2 counties.
I presume there was a Mullinalaghta input in the Meath match.

5 out of 15 starters (Fox, McElligott, two McGivneys and Brady) and 7 out of 16 points.
Great experience.
Would come in handy in a theoretical Leinster Club Championship.

Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 28, 2018, 06:39:54 AM
Glad I am still in Holland.

Congrats to Carlow .

On and off the pitch we have severe problems. We have a county board obsessed with making money as directed to them by Croke Board. They are now taking on infrastructure project badly needed but they can't afford.

A change in manager would give an uplift, biased as I am Glen Ryan would instill some belief & change the identity of a Kildare footballer. They play without emotion. Zero emotional energy in them.

Yesterday should be seen as a watershed moment but with the current landscape of Leinster football there might not be the will.

Anyway roll on the qualifiers.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 08:22:06 AM
Meath and Kildare are the sick men of Leinster fuball but to see the 2 of them bet on the one day by Longford and Carlow is dochreidte.
What a day for the 2 counties.
I presume there was a Mullinalaghta input in the Meath match.

5 out of 15 starters (Fox, McElligott, two McGivneys and Brady) and 7 out of 16 points.
Great experience.
Would come in handy in a theoretical Leinster Club Championship.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-146AydXpds
Anyway it is great to see. These days don't roll around very often
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on May 28, 2018, 09:00:57 AM
Dinny

Kildare are on a shocking bad run - 12 defeats in a row in all competitions I think. I would love to see Glenn Ryan given the task. He is well regarded in Longford and I am surprised he didn't kick on after this stint with us. Maybe he had other committments but he would certainly instill some confidence back into the Lillies. I think KIldare will beat Derry and maybe there is a summer ahead.

Fair play to Carlow. Last won Leinster in 1944 - not sure when they were last in a Leinster final but I do think Laois will have too much for them.

So - maybe I am being a little naive here - but a repeat of the 1968 Leinster final is on the cards. We beat Meath in '68 as well (and they were All Ireland Champs at the time) as well as beating Dubs.

Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2018, 10:06:22 AM
Dinny

Kildare are on a shocking bad run - 12 defeats in a row in all competitions I think. I would love to see Glenn Ryan given the task. He is well regarded in Longford and I am surprised he didn't kick on after this stint with us. Maybe he had other committments but he would certainly instill some confidence back into the Lillies. I think KIldare will beat Derry and maybe there is a summer ahead.

Fair play to Carlow. Last won Leinster in 1944 - not sure when they were last in a Leinster final but I do think Laois will have too much for them.

So - maybe I am being a little naive here - but a repeat of the 1968 Leinster final is on the cards. We beat Meath in '68 as well (and they were All Ireland Champs at the time) as well as beating Dubs.

Lads, why is Cian O'Neill failing so badly? Is it a tactical thing, a man management thing, a physical preparation thing, or all three?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: maigheo on May 28, 2018, 11:56:18 AM
Dinny

Kildare are on a shocking bad run - 12 defeats in a row in all competitions I think. I would love to see Glenn Ryan given the task. He is well regarded in Longford and I am surprised he didn't kick on after this stint with us. Maybe he had other committments but he would certainly instill some confidence back into the Lillies. I think KIldare will beat Derry and maybe there is a summer ahead.

Fair play to Carlow. Last won Leinster in 1944 - not sure when they were last in a Leinster final but I do think Laois will have too much for them.

So - maybe I am being a little naive here - but a repeat of the 1968 Leinster final is on the cards. We beat Meath in '68 as well (and they were All Ireland Champs at the time) as well as beating Dubs.

Lads, why is Cian O'Neill failing so badly? Is it a tactical thing, a man management thing, a physical preparation thing, or all three?
Good article by Tomas O Shea in yesterdays Sindo which gives some clues as to why O Neill is failing with Kildare
Dinny

Kildare are on a shocking bad run - 12 defeats in a row in all competitions I think. I would love to see Glenn Ryan given the task. He is well regarded in Longford and I am surprised he didn't kick on after this stint with us. Maybe he had other committments but he would certainly instill some confidence back into the Lillies. I think KIldare will beat Derry and maybe there is a summer ahead.

Fair play to Carlow. Last won Leinster in 1944 - not sure when they were last in a Leinster final but I do think Laois will have too much for them.

So - maybe I am being a little naive here - but a repeat of the 1968 Leinster final is on the cards. We beat Meath in '68 as well (and they were All Ireland Champs at the time) as well as beating Dubs.

Lads, why is Cian O'Neill failing so badly? Is it a tactical thing, a man management thing, a physical preparation thing, or all three?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2018, 11:58:20 AM
?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: maigheo on May 28, 2018, 12:42:31 PM
not sure what happened with my last post ;) but meant to say that Tomas O Sheas article in the Sindo yesterday gave some insight as to why  ONeill is not succeeding with Kildare
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on May 28, 2018, 01:25:48 PM
This is brilliant.
https://soundcloud.com/kclr96fm/sport-brendan-hennessy-willie-quinlan-go-crazy
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 02:02:44 PM
This is brilliant.
https://soundcloud.com/kclr96fm/sport-brendan-hennessy-willie-quinlan-go-crazy
That is class
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on May 28, 2018, 03:58:29 PM
Well done to Longford, fully deserved win.
We're gone fierce watery altogether.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on May 28, 2018, 06:04:00 PM
Glad I am still in Holland.

Congrats to Carlow .

On and off the pitch we have severe problems. We have a county board obsessed with making money as directed to them by Croke Board. They are now taking on infrastructure project badly needed but they can't afford.

A change in manager would give an uplift, biased as I am Glen Ryan would instill some belief & change the identity of a Kildare footballer. They play without emotion. Zero emotional energy in them.

Yesterday should be seen as a watershed moment but with the current landscape of Leinster football there might not be the will.

Anyway roll on the qualifiers.

This x1000000000.

Aughrim 1990 was a watershed moment. Yesterday needs to be the same. That's the worst I've ever sat through anyway and by a long way.

An axe needs to be taken to that team and start again afresh. I've never seen a group that is as mentally fragile and that's saying something as a Kildare supporter.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 28, 2018, 06:27:33 PM
Glad I am still in Holland.

Congrats to Carlow .

On and off the pitch we have severe problems. We have a county board obsessed with making money as directed to them by Croke Board. They are now taking on infrastructure project badly needed but they can't afford.

A change in manager would give an uplift, biased as I am Glen Ryan would instill some belief & change the identity of a Kildare footballer. They play without emotion. Zero emotional energy in them.

Yesterday should be seen as a watershed moment but with the current landscape of Leinster football there might not be the will.

Anyway roll on the qualifiers.

This x1000000000.

Aughrim 1990 was a watershed moment. Yesterday needs to be the same. That's the worst I've ever sat through anyway and by a long way.

An axe needs to be taken to that team and start again afresh. I've never seen a group that is as mentally fragile and that's saying something as a Kildare supporter.
It is very strange. Compare Meath and Kildare. Meath have been shite for the last 5 years with no upside.  Kildare got a good run in D2 last year and got promoted . Very different to Meath. But the wheels fell off this year.
Maybe a new manager could do better.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on May 28, 2018, 08:41:25 PM
U20 round 1 result from tonight.

Meath 6-16  Wicklow 1-9
Offaly 2-19 Carlow 1-10
Dublin 2-21 Longford 0-11
Westmeath 2-12 Wexford 1-12
Kildare 1-17 Laois 4-6
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 28, 2018, 11:09:18 PM
Great entertainment in Newbridge, nice to see some Kildare players with testicular fortitude for a change.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2018, 11:17:44 PM
Good win for the Faithful. When is the next round of this?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 28, 2018, 11:21:43 PM
Bank holiday Monday 2pm. Meath vs Kildare the pick of the games.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on May 29, 2018, 07:17:04 AM
Good win for the Faithful. When is the next round of this?

16th of June for us, AZ. We’ve a bye in the next round, as there’s only three teams in our group.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 29, 2018, 10:59:56 AM
Dinny

Kildare are on a shocking bad run - 12 defeats in a row in all competitions I think. I would love to see Glenn Ryan given the task. He is well regarded in Longford and I am surprised he didn't kick on after this stint with us. Maybe he had other committments but he would certainly instill some confidence back into the Lillies. I think KIldare will beat Derry and maybe there is a summer ahead.

Fair play to Carlow. Last won Leinster in 1944 - not sure when they were last in a Leinster final but I do think Laois will have too much for them.

So - maybe I am being a little naive here - but a repeat of the 1968 Leinster final is on the cards. We beat Meath in '68 as well (and they were All Ireland Champs at the time) as well as beating Dubs.

Lads, why is Cian O'Neill failing so badly? Is it a tactical thing, a man management thing, a physical preparation thing, or all three?

I will give my opinion but respect that someone like Donnelly's Hollow will have been at more games this year. This is a generally critique as I was in Holland for the Carlow game.

Tactically.

Our defensive system isn't working. Eoin Doyle is a fine CB but we deploy him as an auxiliary sweeper with Fergal Conway dropping back and then trying to go man to man. It works fine on teams that keep bodies up but against defensive teams that sweep forward on counter-attack it's a disaster and we foul so much when teams run hard and direct. In attack we are too laborious, lack confidence (bar Dan Flynn). To me we look over coached and roles are too restrictive. E.g. Niall Kelly, a very creative player who has gone backwards under O'Neill. O'Neill also reminds me of Eddie O'Sullivan, harder to get off his teams than on them. Never seems to be any consequence player wise to playing poorly. Must be demoralising for the non-starters.

Technically

Our most glaring technical deficiency is our inability to tackle add in how uncomfortable we look at passing the ball under pressure leads to a lot of fouls and turn-overs. This is a coaching issue.

Physically

We are big, athletic and have pace. We don't lack for fitness. We are well prepared. High rate of ham-string strains.

Life-style

Kildare players have egos, a cultural thing in Kildare, we have an undeserved arrogance married to reasonable underage success and Kildare players think they are better than they are. I never get the impression that this current bunch of players are willing to put in the hard yards, the first snow-flake GAA team.

Mentally   

No win since June last year, that destroys confidence. Mentally they were always fragile but this bunch of snowflakes haven't shown any mental fortitude under O'Neill, we don't win tight games, we either win pulling up or we lose.


They as a bunch need to now take a stand. These qualifiers are now on the players. O'Neill won't be in charge next season unless a miracle happens. There is an awful lot of anger in Kildare and with Gobshites like Tomas O'Se feeding that mentality it's getting personal.

An analogy I use with my teams refers to the Spartans, either you come home with your shield or on it. Attitude is everything. They need to show some attitude.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 29, 2018, 11:12:10 AM
Dinny

Kildare are on a shocking bad run - 12 defeats in a row in all competitions I think. I would love to see Glenn Ryan given the task. He is well regarded in Longford and I am surprised he didn't kick on after this stint with us. Maybe he had other committments but he would certainly instill some confidence back into the Lillies. I think KIldare will beat Derry and maybe there is a summer ahead.

Fair play to Carlow. Last won Leinster in 1944 - not sure when they were last in a Leinster final but I do think Laois will have too much for them.

So - maybe I am being a little naive here - but a repeat of the 1968 Leinster final is on the cards. We beat Meath in '68 as well (and they were All Ireland Champs at the time) as well as beating Dubs.

I am biased, clubmates and grew up together but he would change the mentality and he would surround himself with good people. Politics involved sadly and even from talking to Glenn not so sure he will put himself forward again but he is my choice and the choice of many on the ground.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 29, 2018, 11:47:06 AM
I thought Kildare were reasonably strong underage. It might not take long before they are respectable again.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: westbound on May 29, 2018, 12:44:23 PM
I thought Kildare were reasonably strong underage. It might not take long before they are respectable again.

Kildare were 'respectable' less than 12 months ago. Under new management it shouldn't take long at all to get them back up and running. Maybe Cian O'Neill can turn it around? If they beat Derry it'll be a massive start! But either way, Kildare should be respectable very soon.
It might take a little longer to be competitive with Dublin
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on May 29, 2018, 02:44:21 PM
I thought Kildare were reasonably strong underage. It might not take long before they are respectable again.

Kildare were 'respectable' less than 12 months ago. Under new management it shouldn't take long at all to get them back up and running. Maybe Cian O'Neill can turn it around? If they beat Derry it'll be a massive start! But either way, Kildare should be respectable very soon.
It might take a little longer to be competitive with Dublin

I thought Kildare were patronised last summer for getting within 9 points of Dublin. They have done well at underage and their club football is decent which such mean things should start to improve at senior level for them however they will probably need a better manager and more local one that is more likely to get the best out of their players.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 29, 2018, 02:47:11 PM
Cian O'Neill is Moorefield. He's not a mercenary blow in.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: westbound on May 29, 2018, 03:04:59 PM
I thought Kildare were reasonably strong underage. It might not take long before they are respectable again.

Kildare were 'respectable' less than 12 months ago. Under new management it shouldn't take long at all to get them back up and running. Maybe Cian O'Neill can turn it around? If they beat Derry it'll be a massive start! But either way, Kildare should be respectable very soon.
It might take a little longer to be competitive with Dublin

I thought Kildare were patronised last summer for getting within 9 points of Dublin. They have done well at underage and their club football is decent which such mean things should start to improve at senior level for them however they will probably need a better manager and more local one that is more likely to get the best out of their players.
That's possibly true, but no doubt getting to the leinster final and getting promotion from division is respectable. I'm not suggesting they will be competitive with Dublin any time soon.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: mup on May 29, 2018, 03:11:05 PM
Cian O'Neill is Moorefield. He's not a mercenary blow in.

However he is living in Cork.

Rumours are that he will have some sort of role with Munster Rugby next year.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 29, 2018, 03:39:50 PM
Cian O'Neill is Moorefield. He's not a mercenary blow in.

However he is living in Cork.

Rumours are that he will have some sort of role with Munster Rugby next year.

Has he attended many Kildare club game the last few years when living in Cork? He must be getting good traveling expensives out of this Kildare senior gig.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 29, 2018, 03:44:45 PM
Cian O'Neill is Moorefield. He's not a mercenary blow in.

However he is living in Cork.

Rumours are that he will have some sort of role with Munster Rugby next year.

I saw that on the Kildare Forum, where is that rumour coming from? I don't see what role he could do with them bar Head of Athletic performance which was only filled in March by Denis Logan. He also lives in Cork and Munster bar some academy personal are all based in Limerick now.

O'Neill is a very intelligent man, too intelligent for Tomas O'Se it seems, he holds a doctorate and is the Head of The Department of Sport, Leisure, and Childhood Studies in CIT.

He was an exciting appointment for me that didn't work out. Inability to delegate and properly motivate seems to be his big issues. I thought he would have built a high performance culture but seems to fail to understand that failure to perform has consequences. His 3 years have been under-whelming sadly.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 29, 2018, 03:46:53 PM
Cian O'Neill is Moorefield. He's not a mercenary blow in.

However he is living in Cork.

Rumours are that he will have some sort of role with Munster Rugby next year.

Has he attended many Kildare club game the last few years when living in Cork? He must be getting good traveling expensives out of this Kildare senior gig.

You do know Roli Sweeney is his main selector, who actually still played senior club championship last year. Cian was at a lot of games. Kildare have the best players available bar a couple of young lads.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: mup on May 29, 2018, 03:56:10 PM
Cian O'Neill is Moorefield. He's not a mercenary blow in.

However he is living in Cork.

Rumours are that he will have some sort of role with Munster Rugby next year.

I saw that on the Kildare Forum, where is that rumour coming from? I don't see what role he could do with them bar Head of Athletic performance which was only filled in March by Denis Logan. He also lives in Cork and Munster bar some academy personal are all based in Limerick now.

O'Neill is a very intelligent man, too intelligent for Tomas O'Se it seems, he holds a doctorate and is the Head of The Department of Sport, Leisure, and Childhood Studies in CIT.

He was an exciting appointment for me that didn't work out. Inability to delegate and properly motivate seems to be his big issues. I thought he would have built a high performance culture but seems to fail to understand that failure to perform has consequences. His 3 years have been under-whelming sadly.

I heard it from a couple of sources. Like everything else it could turn out to be horsesh1t.

He always came across to me as a bit of a lollipop. Last year I second guessed myself and thought I was just being an old crank so I decided maybe I was wrong about him. But now I've reverted to my original thinking (some might say I'm still the old crank part!!) and frankly he's not up to the job. As the bould Eamon might say 'he's a spoofer'.

He's the David Brent of GAA managers.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 29, 2018, 04:02:51 PM
Cian O'Neill is Moorefield. He's not a mercenary blow in.

However he is living in Cork.

Rumours are that he will have some sort of role with Munster Rugby next year.

I saw that on the Kildare Forum, where is that rumour coming from? I don't see what role he could do with them bar Head of Athletic performance which was only filled in March by Denis Logan. He also lives in Cork and Munster bar some academy personal are all based in Limerick now.

O'Neill is a very intelligent man, too intelligent for Tomas O'Se it seems, he holds a doctorate and is the Head of The Department of Sport, Leisure, and Childhood Studies in CIT.

He was an exciting appointment for me that didn't work out. Inability to delegate and properly motivate seems to be his big issues. I thought he would have built a high performance culture but seems to fail to understand that failure to perform has consequences. His 3 years have been under-whelming sadly.

I heard it from a couple of sources. Like everything else it could turn out to be horsesh1t.

He always came across to me as a bit of a lollipop. Last year I second guessed myself and thought I was just being an old crank so I decided maybe I was wrong about him. But now I've reverted to my original thinking (some might say I'm still the old crank part!!) and frankly he's not up to the job. As the bould Eamon might say 'he's a spoofer'.

Not fond of the "Spoofer" term but his interviews are cringe inducing.  I don't think however he'll have any problem getting a gig after Kildare but he's just not cut out to be a manager of an inter-county GAA team and not the first coach to struggle with that transition and won't be the last.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on May 29, 2018, 04:09:20 PM
Cian O'Neill is Moorefield. He's not a mercenary blow in.

However he is living in Cork.

Rumours are that he will have some sort of role with Munster Rugby next year.

I saw that on the Kildare Forum, where is that rumour coming from? I don't see what role he could do with them bar Head of Athletic performance which was only filled in March by Denis Logan. He also lives in Cork and Munster bar some academy personal are all based in Limerick now.

O'Neill is a very intelligent man, too intelligent for Tomas O'Se it seems, he holds a doctorate and is the Head of The Department of Sport, Leisure, and Childhood Studies in CIT.

He was an exciting appointment for me that didn't work out. Inability to delegate and properly motivate seems to be his big issues. I thought he would have built a high performance culture but seems to fail to understand that failure to perform has consequences. His 3 years have been under-whelming sadly.

I heard it from a couple of sources. Like everything else it could turn out to be horsesh1t.

He always came across to me as a bit of a lollipop. Last year I second guessed myself and thought I was just being an old crank so I decided maybe I was wrong about him. But now I've reverted to my original thinking (some might say I'm still the old crank part!!) and frankly he's not up to the job. As the bould Eamon might say 'he's a spoofer'.

Not fond of the "Spoofer" term but his interviews are cringe inducing.  I don't think however he'll have any problem getting a gig after Kildare but he's just not cut out to be a manager of an inter-county GAA team and not the first coach to struggle with that transition and won't be the last.

He's been involved with plenty of successful teams - tipp hurlers, mayo, kerry. You'd have thought he'd have learned a serious amount in those years
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 29, 2018, 04:24:44 PM
Cian O'Neill is Moorefield. He's not a mercenary blow in.

However he is living in Cork.

Rumours are that he will have some sort of role with Munster Rugby next year.

I saw that on the Kildare Forum, where is that rumour coming from? I don't see what role he could do with them bar Head of Athletic performance which was only filled in March by Denis Logan. He also lives in Cork and Munster bar some academy personal are all based in Limerick now.

O'Neill is a very intelligent man, too intelligent for Tomas O'Se it seems, he holds a doctorate and is the Head of The Department of Sport, Leisure, and Childhood Studies in CIT.

He was an exciting appointment for me that didn't work out. Inability to delegate and properly motivate seems to be his big issues. I thought he would have built a high performance culture but seems to fail to understand that failure to perform has consequences. His 3 years have been under-whelming sadly.

I heard it from a couple of sources. Like everything else it could turn out to be horsesh1t.

He always came across to me as a bit of a lollipop. Last year I second guessed myself and thought I was just being an old crank so I decided maybe I was wrong about him. But now I've reverted to my original thinking (some might say I'm still the old crank part!!) and frankly he's not up to the job. As the bould Eamon might say 'he's a spoofer'.

Not fond of the "Spoofer" term but his interviews are cringe inducing.  I don't think however he'll have any problem getting a gig after Kildare but he's just not cut out to be a manager of an inter-county GAA team and not the first coach to struggle with that transition and won't be the last.

He's been involved with plenty of successful teams - tipp hurlers, mayo, kerry. You'd have thought he'd have learned a serious amount in those years
He reminds me of McGeeney
Looks good on paper.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on May 29, 2018, 04:33:45 PM
Whats the deal with all the Kerrymen sticking the boot in? Did he not leaving them on good terms?

From memory this is his first managerial job which at this level is madness.

Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on May 29, 2018, 06:06:04 PM
Cian O'Neill is Moorefield. He's not a mercenary blow in.

However he is living in Cork.

Rumours are that he will have some sort of role with Munster Rugby next year.

Has he attended many Kildare club game the last few years when living in Cork? He must be getting good traveling expensives out of this Kildare senior gig.

You do know Roli Sweeney is his main selector, who actually still played senior club championship last year. Cian was at a lot of games. Kildare have the best players available bar a couple of young lads.

That's the really depressing thing. Apart from Ben McCormack (and maybe Eoin O'Flaherty and Ollie Lyons), the most talented players are on the panel. They were all available for selection on Sunday with the exception of Neil Flynn. There are a few like Shea Ryan, Conor Hartley and Ryan Houlihan who might improve the panel but they would hardly be nailed on starters. Paul Mescal is unlikely to ever play football.

Maybe there are a few out there who might not be as talented but are mentally tougher and more resiliant? James Murray springs immediately to mind. Are Matt Kelly and Jamie Flynn up to it Dinny?

The best performers in the first round of the county championship included Paudie O'Neill and Johnny Doyle. Moorefield will be the team to beat again and they are backboned by players like Daryl Flynn, David Whyte and Roli. For all the talk of young talent in the county, a lot of them haven't kicked on since minor level. Luke Flynn is on and off the senior panel as is Mark Sherry. McMonagle isn't even guaranteed a start for Clogherinkoe. Wayne Fitzpatrick doesn't appear to be on the radar either.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 29, 2018, 10:42:23 PM
Cian O'Neill is Moorefield. He's not a mercenary blow in.

However he is living in Cork.

Rumours are that he will have some sort of role with Munster Rugby next year.

Has he attended many Kildare club game the last few years when living in Cork? He must be getting good traveling expensives out of this Kildare senior gig.

You do know Roli Sweeney is his main selector, who actually still played senior club championship last year. Cian was at a lot of games. Kildare have the best players available bar a couple of young lads.

That's the really depressing thing. Apart from Ben McCormack (and maybe Eoin O'Flaherty and Ollie Lyons), the most talented players are on the panel. They were all available for selection on Sunday with the exception of Neil Flynn. There are a few like Shea Ryan, Conor Hartley and Ryan Houlihan who might improve the panel but they would hardly be nailed on starters. Paul Mescal is unlikely to ever play football.

Maybe there are a few out there who might not be as talented but are mentally tougher and more resiliant? James Murray springs immediately to mind. Are Matt Kelly and Jamie Flynn up to it Dinny?

The best performers in the first round of the county championship included Paudie O'Neill and Johnny Doyle. Moorefield will be the team to beat again and they are backboned by players like Daryl Flynn, David Whyte and Roli. For all the talk of young talent in the county, a lot of them haven't kicked on since minor level. Luke Flynn is on and off the senior panel as is Mark Sherry. McMonagle isn't even guaranteed a start for Clogherinkoe. Wayne Fitzpatrick doesn't appear to be on the radar either.

Jamie is a bit loose, think the pace of  inter county would be a struggle, Matt Kelly scores 2-7 against Naas in the league 10 days ago, was unplayable, his conditioning has improved but would be better in an inter-county setup. There seems to be an issue with lads not living in Kildare though, that did for Fitzpatrick too.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: O moore parklife on May 29, 2018, 11:57:56 PM
For all the good carlow are doing
 Stephen poacher is sucking the LIFE out of it the man is a narcissist of the highest order.
It really is all about him and what he can get out of Twitter
Christ man get a grip
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: westbound on May 30, 2018, 10:32:40 AM
Cian O'Neill is Moorefield. He's not a mercenary blow in.

However he is living in Cork.

Rumours are that he will have some sort of role with Munster Rugby next year.

Has he attended many Kildare club game the last few years when living in Cork? He must be getting good traveling expensives out of this Kildare senior gig.

You do know Roli Sweeney is his main selector, who actually still played senior club championship last year. Cian was at a lot of games. Kildare have the best players available bar a couple of young lads.

That's the really depressing thing. Apart from Ben McCormack (and maybe Eoin O'Flaherty and Ollie Lyons), the most talented players are on the panel. They were all available for selection on Sunday with the exception of Neil Flynn. There are a few like Shea Ryan, Conor Hartley and Ryan Houlihan who might improve the panel but they would hardly be nailed on starters. Paul Mescal is unlikely to ever play football.

Maybe there are a few out there who might not be as talented but are mentally tougher and more resiliant? James Murray springs immediately to mind. Are Matt Kelly and Jamie Flynn up to it Dinny?

The best performers in the first round of the county championship included Paudie O'Neill and Johnny Doyle. Moorefield will be the team to beat again and they are backboned by players like Daryl Flynn, David Whyte and Roli. For all the talk of young talent in the county, a lot of them haven't kicked on since minor level. Luke Flynn is on and off the senior panel as is Mark Sherry. McMonagle isn't even guaranteed a start for Clogherinkoe. Wayne Fitzpatrick doesn't appear to be on the radar either.

Jamie is a bit loose, think the pace of  inter county would be a struggle, Matt Kelly scores 2-7 against Naas in the league 10 days ago, was unplayable, his conditioning has improved but would be better in an inter-county setup. There seems to be an issue with lads not living in Kildare though, that did for Fitzpatrick too.

What club is Matt Kelly? What position was he playing against naas?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on May 30, 2018, 10:34:47 AM
I think that we’ll go far in the u20, and we seem to have a decent minor panel.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on May 30, 2018, 10:57:41 AM
In recent years, it has been Kildare, not Dublin, who have consistently had our number at underage level.
A win for us on Monday would be huge.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 30, 2018, 11:03:26 AM
Cian O'Neill is Moorefield. He's not a mercenary blow in.

However he is living in Cork.

Rumours are that he will have some sort of role with Munster Rugby next year.

Has he attended many Kildare club game the last few years when living in Cork? He must be getting good traveling expensives out of this Kildare senior gig.

You do know Roli Sweeney is his main selector, who actually still played senior club championship last year. Cian was at a lot of games. Kildare have the best players available bar a couple of young lads.

That's the really depressing thing. Apart from Ben McCormack (and maybe Eoin O'Flaherty and Ollie Lyons), the most talented players are on the panel. They were all available for selection on Sunday with the exception of Neil Flynn. There are a few like Shea Ryan, Conor Hartley and Ryan Houlihan who might improve the panel but they would hardly be nailed on starters. Paul Mescal is unlikely to ever play football.

Maybe there are a few out there who might not be as talented but are mentally tougher and more resiliant? James Murray springs immediately to mind. Are Matt Kelly and Jamie Flynn up to it Dinny?

The best performers in the first round of the county championship included Paudie O'Neill and Johnny Doyle. Moorefield will be the team to beat again and they are backboned by players like Daryl Flynn, David Whyte and Roli. For all the talk of young talent in the county, a lot of them haven't kicked on since minor level. Luke Flynn is on and off the senior panel as is Mark Sherry. McMonagle isn't even guaranteed a start for Clogherinkoe. Wayne Fitzpatrick doesn't appear to be on the radar either.

Jamie is a bit loose, think the pace of  inter county would be a struggle, Matt Kelly scores 2-7 against Naas in the league 10 days ago, was unplayable, his conditioning has improved but would be better in an inter-county setup. There seems to be an issue with lads not living in Kildare though, that did for Fitzpatrick too.

What club is Matt Kelly? What position was he playing against naas?

Round Towers. God don't ask me to nail his position, he started as part of a front 2 and was allowed roam out the field to pick up loose ball, he scored a couple of monster points as well.

Best known for this rocket, 3 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHFPFIw_Yh4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHFPFIw_Yh4)
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on May 30, 2018, 11:50:45 AM
Banty got a lot of stick when he was Meath manager but the problems outlasted him.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: westbound on May 30, 2018, 02:30:53 PM
Cian O'Neill is Moorefield. He's not a mercenary blow in.

However he is living in Cork.

Rumours are that he will have some sort of role with Munster Rugby next year.

Has he attended many Kildare club game the last few years when living in Cork? He must be getting good traveling expensives out of this Kildare senior gig.

You do know Roli Sweeney is his main selector, who actually still played senior club championship last year. Cian was at a lot of games. Kildare have the best players available bar a couple of young lads.

That's the really depressing thing. Apart from Ben McCormack (and maybe Eoin O'Flaherty and Ollie Lyons), the most talented players are on the panel. They were all available for selection on Sunday with the exception of Neil Flynn. There are a few like Shea Ryan, Conor Hartley and Ryan Houlihan who might improve the panel but they would hardly be nailed on starters. Paul Mescal is unlikely to ever play football.

Maybe there are a few out there who might not be as talented but are mentally tougher and more resiliant? James Murray springs immediately to mind. Are Matt Kelly and Jamie Flynn up to it Dinny?

The best performers in the first round of the county championship included Paudie O'Neill and Johnny Doyle. Moorefield will be the team to beat again and they are backboned by players like Daryl Flynn, David Whyte and Roli. For all the talk of young talent in the county, a lot of them haven't kicked on since minor level. Luke Flynn is on and off the senior panel as is Mark Sherry. McMonagle isn't even guaranteed a start for Clogherinkoe. Wayne Fitzpatrick doesn't appear to be on the radar either.

Jamie is a bit loose, think the pace of  inter county would be a struggle, Matt Kelly scores 2-7 against Naas in the league 10 days ago, was unplayable, his conditioning has improved but would be better in an inter-county setup. There seems to be an issue with lads not living in Kildare though, that did for Fitzpatrick too.

What club is Matt Kelly? What position was he playing against naas?

Round Towers. God don't ask me to nail his position, he started as part of a front 2 and was allowed roam out the field to pick up loose ball, he scored a couple of monster points as well.

Best known for this rocket, 3 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHFPFIw_Yh4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHFPFIw_Yh4)

Thanks Dinny. I remember that goal. Didn't remember his name tho!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on May 30, 2018, 09:05:10 PM
Leinster MFC round 3

Meath 4-14
Louth 0-12

Dublin 2-11
Offaly 0-10

Wicklow 2-20
Westmeath 2-4

Laois 0-10
Carlow 0-10

Longford 2-17
Wexford 0-7
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on May 30, 2018, 09:13:31 PM
Wicklow 2-20 Westmeath 2-4???????


Offaly gave the Dubs a good run. Was level with about 8 to play. 2 late goals won it.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 30, 2018, 09:24:40 PM
Wicklow 2-20 Westmeath 2-4???????
Whats going on there... is Tommy Carr back managing a Westmeath team again?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on May 30, 2018, 10:31:04 PM
Another good win for our lads.
Racking up some big scores.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: shark on May 31, 2018, 08:18:57 AM
Wicklow 2-20 Westmeath 2-4???????
Whats going on there... is Tommy Carr back managing a Westmeath team again?

When he was Westmeath minor manager they made their first Leinster minor final in 13 years. Usually it’s the case of the talent not being there. However there were expectations around this group after St.Mary’s Mullingar won the all-Ireland u16 A. Also, Wicklow are clearly no bad team.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 31, 2018, 09:55:04 AM
Wicklow 2-20 Westmeath 2-4???????
Whats going on there... is Tommy Carr back managing a Westmeath team again?

When he was Westmeath minor manager they made their first Leinster minor final in 13 years. Usually it’s the case of the talent not being there. However there were expectations around this group after St.Mary’s Mullingar won the all-Ireland u16 A. Also, Wicklow are clearly no bad team.

Reason that group made the first Leinster minor final in 13 years was because there was good work done with them up to u16 level where they won the Gerry Reilly and the Fr Manning Cup.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.westmeathindependent.ie/sport/gaa/articles/2011/09/22/4006822-westmeath-down-the-dubs-to-retain-gerry-reilly-crown (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.westmeathindependent.ie/sport/gaa/articles/2011/09/22/4006822-westmeath-down-the-dubs-to-retain-gerry-reilly-crown)

Carr saw an opportunity to get involved with a decent team and had the county board eating out of his hands. The management who had done all the heavy lifting were jettisoned and Tommy Tom Tom was parachuted in to the young fellows horror (there was talk amongst themselves of not playing). They had an easy run to that Leinster Final where a Brendan Hackett managed Kildare team absolutely took them apart in the final while Tommy Tom Tom looked on with his hands stuck in the pockets of his shorts.

Not sure what the reason for 3 defeats from 3 is for this group but it certainly doesn't augur well. Least the u20s beat Wexford, no thanks to Kelly bringing Coyne on for the seniors. We'll see how they get on against the Dubs in Parnell Park next Monday.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: shark on May 31, 2018, 10:02:45 AM
Wicklow 2-20 Westmeath 2-4???????
Whats going on there... is Tommy Carr back managing a Westmeath team again?

When he was Westmeath minor manager they made their first Leinster minor final in 13 years. Usually it’s the case of the talent not being there. However there were expectations around this group after St.Mary’s Mullingar won the all-Ireland u16 A. Also, Wicklow are clearly no bad team.

Reason that group made the first Leinster minor final in 13 years was because there was good work done with them up to u16 level where they won the Gerry Reilly and the Fr Manning Cup.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.westmeathindependent.ie/sport/gaa/articles/2011/09/22/4006822-westmeath-down-the-dubs-to-retain-gerry-reilly-crown (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.westmeathindependent.ie/sport/gaa/articles/2011/09/22/4006822-westmeath-down-the-dubs-to-retain-gerry-reilly-crown)

Carr saw an opportunity to get involved with a decent team and had the county board eating out of his hands. The management who had done all the heavy lifting were jettisoned and Tommy Tom Tom was parachuted in to the young fellows horror (there was talk amongst themselves of not playing). They had an easy run to that Leinster Final where a Brendan Hackett managed Kildare team absolutely took them apart in the final while Tommy Tom Tom looked on with his hands stuck in the pockets of his shorts.

Not sure what the reason for 3 defeats from 3 is for this group but it certainly doesn't augur well. Least the u20s beat Wexford, no thanks to Kelly bringing Coyne on for the seniors. We'll see how they get on against the Dubs in Parnell Park next Monday.

Not too well I suspect. I don’t think it’s a particularly strong group. But if a few of them step up to senior that’s all that really matters. I expect Carr’s son to be one of them  ;)
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on May 31, 2018, 10:22:09 AM
Wicklow 2-20 Westmeath 2-4???????
Whats going on there... is Tommy Carr back managing a Westmeath team again?

When he was Westmeath minor manager they made their first Leinster minor final in 13 years. Usually it’s the case of the talent not being there. However there were expectations around this group after St.Mary’s Mullingar won the all-Ireland u16 A. Also, Wicklow are clearly no bad team.

Reason that group made the first Leinster minor final in 13 years was because there was good work done with them up to u16 level where they won the Gerry Reilly and the Fr Manning Cup.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.westmeathindependent.ie/sport/gaa/articles/2011/09/22/4006822-westmeath-down-the-dubs-to-retain-gerry-reilly-crown (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.westmeathindependent.ie/sport/gaa/articles/2011/09/22/4006822-westmeath-down-the-dubs-to-retain-gerry-reilly-crown)

Carr saw an opportunity to get involved with a decent team and had the county board eating out of his hands. The management who had done all the heavy lifting were jettisoned and Tommy Tom Tom was parachuted in to the young fellows horror (there was talk amongst themselves of not playing). They had an easy run to that Leinster Final where a Brendan Hackett managed Kildare team absolutely took them apart in the final while Tommy Tom Tom looked on with his hands stuck in the pockets of his shorts.

Not sure what the reason for 3 defeats from 3 is for this group but it certainly doesn't augur well. Least the u20s beat Wexford, no thanks to Kelly bringing Coyne on for the seniors. We'll see how they get on against the Dubs in Parnell Park next Monday.

Not too well I suspect. I don’t think it’s a particularly strong group. But if a few of them step up to senior that’s all that really matters. I expect Carr’s son to be one of them  ;)

The Dubs will be formidable no doubt, how we fare will indicate where this group are at. Good to see a Westmeath man of solid stock in charge, time we implemented the same structure at senior level.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on June 01, 2018, 10:58:39 AM
Wicklow 2-20 Westmeath 2-4???????
Whats going on there... is Tommy Carr back managing a Westmeath team again?

When he was Westmeath minor manager they made their first Leinster minor final in 13 years. Usually it’s the case of the talent not being there. However there were expectations around this group after St.Mary’s Mullingar won the all-Ireland u16 A. Also, Wicklow are clearly no bad team.

Reason that group made the first Leinster minor final in 13 years was because there was good work done with them up to u16 level where they won the Gerry Reilly and the Fr Manning Cup.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.westmeathindependent.ie/sport/gaa/articles/2011/09/22/4006822-westmeath-down-the-dubs-to-retain-gerry-reilly-crown (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.westmeathindependent.ie/sport/gaa/articles/2011/09/22/4006822-westmeath-down-the-dubs-to-retain-gerry-reilly-crown)

Carr saw an opportunity to get involved with a decent team and had the county board eating out of his hands. The management who had done all the heavy lifting were jettisoned and Tommy Tom Tom was parachuted in to the young fellows horror (there was talk amongst themselves of not playing). They had an easy run to that Leinster Final where a Brendan Hackett managed Kildare team absolutely took them apart in the final while Tommy Tom Tom looked on with his hands stuck in the pockets of his shorts.

Not sure what the reason for 3 defeats from 3 is for this group but it certainly doesn't augur well. Least the u20s beat Wexford, no thanks to Kelly bringing Coyne on for the seniors. We'll see how they get on against the Dubs in Parnell Park next Monday.

Not too well I suspect. I don’t think it’s a particularly strong group. But if a few of them step up to senior that’s all that really matters. I expect Carr’s son to be one of them  ;)

We (Tipp) played the U15 team in a challenge last year. I liked the look of quite a few of them, including a young Seery lad from Ballinagore. I know they are a year 'below' but would they be that far off playing at the moment?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: shark on June 01, 2018, 12:30:41 PM
Wicklow 2-20 Westmeath 2-4???????
Whats going on there... is Tommy Carr back managing a Westmeath team again?

When he was Westmeath minor manager they made their first Leinster minor final in 13 years. Usually it’s the case of the talent not being there. However there were expectations around this group after St.Mary’s Mullingar won the all-Ireland u16 A. Also, Wicklow are clearly no bad team.

Reason that group made the first Leinster minor final in 13 years was because there was good work done with them up to u16 level where they won the Gerry Reilly and the Fr Manning Cup.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.westmeathindependent.ie/sport/gaa/articles/2011/09/22/4006822-westmeath-down-the-dubs-to-retain-gerry-reilly-crown (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.westmeathindependent.ie/sport/gaa/articles/2011/09/22/4006822-westmeath-down-the-dubs-to-retain-gerry-reilly-crown)

Carr saw an opportunity to get involved with a decent team and had the county board eating out of his hands. The management who had done all the heavy lifting were jettisoned and Tommy Tom Tom was parachuted in to the young fellows horror (there was talk amongst themselves of not playing). They had an easy run to that Leinster Final where a Brendan Hackett managed Kildare team absolutely took them apart in the final while Tommy Tom Tom looked on with his hands stuck in the pockets of his shorts.

Not sure what the reason for 3 defeats from 3 is for this group but it certainly doesn't augur well. Least the u20s beat Wexford, no thanks to Kelly bringing Coyne on for the seniors. We'll see how they get on against the Dubs in Parnell Park next Monday.

Not too well I suspect. I don’t think it’s a particularly strong group. But if a few of them step up to senior that’s all that really matters. I expect Carr’s son to be one of them  ;)

We (Tipp) played the U15 team in a challenge last year. I liked the look of quite a few of them, including a young Seery lad from Ballinagore. I know they are a year 'below' but would they be that far off playing at the moment?

Seery is corner back on the u17 team this year. There are certainly a few u16s playing. I imagine though that we will see less u16s playing u17 then we previously saw u17s playing u18, across all counties. A lot of growing happens from 16 to 17 so the physical gap may be bigger.
Or maybe I’m talking rubbish.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 04, 2018, 02:39:35 PM
HT in Navan.
Meath 0-08
Kildare 0-09
Sounds like a good game.
Meath doing well around the middle but Kildare more clinical in front of the posts.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 04, 2018, 03:47:32 PM
FT
Meath 2-11
Kildare 1-13
Great win!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on June 04, 2018, 04:18:03 PM
Is Jack Robinson playing for Kildare U20's? I saw him against Mayo at minor level 2 years ago and he was easily the best player on show.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 04, 2018, 04:35:01 PM
Gone travelling, nearly certain he is underage next year though.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 04, 2018, 04:39:30 PM
FT
Meath 2-11
Kildare 1-13
Great win!

Good game, could easily have went either way. Assuming Kildare can get the better of Wicklow in the next game the extra game in the quarter final should be beneficial as there is plenty of scope for improvement. The referee was bad for both teams and it was a lottery to figure out whether frees would be given and which way. Impressed with the Meath keeper and the nippy corner forward, our keeper does not look like a shotstopper but is top class in every other department.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on June 04, 2018, 05:00:05 PM
Gone travelling, nearly certain he is underage next year though.

He's not.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 04, 2018, 05:08:29 PM
That's a pity so.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on June 04, 2018, 05:46:41 PM
Don’t suppose Leinster GAA have anything as useful as a table showing the standings after today’s games. Can’t find anything on their website.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 04, 2018, 05:58:20 PM
Don’t suppose Leinster GAA have anything as useful as a table showing the standings after today’s games. Can’t find anything on their website.

Meath 4pts
Kildare 2pts
Laois 2pts
Wicklow 0pts

Dublin 4pts
Westmeath 2pts
Wexford 2pts
Longford 0pts (think this is right for group a)

Offaly 2pts
Carlow 2pts
Louth 0pts

Offaly and Carlow are in the quarter finals now while the 2nd placed teams in the other groups join them. Meath and Dublin likely to be in the semis now.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 04, 2018, 08:39:47 PM
FT
Meath 2-11
Kildare 1-13
Great win!

Good game, could easily have went either way. Assuming Kildare can get the better of Wicklow in the next game the extra game in the quarter final should be beneficial as there is plenty of scope for improvement. The referee was bad for both teams and it was a lottery to figure out whether frees would be given and which way. Impressed with the Meath keeper and the nippy corner forward, our keeper does not look like a shotstopper but is top class in every other department.

They played a titanic game two years ago, took extra-time to separate them. If they earn a quarter-final spot and win that I assume they will be playing Dublin in the semi. With a bit of momentum that could be the right time to play Dublin.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on June 04, 2018, 08:44:24 PM
There should be some really good Dublin-Kildare-Meath matches coming up. Very hard to call. The winner should have a good chance to go all the way. And some of the others aren't that far behind either.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 07, 2018, 09:50:08 AM
Any predictions for Sunday's senior semi-finals?

Carlow v Laois - Laois
Dublin v Longford - Longford

Longford have been training on the wide open plains of the Serengeti to get used to Croke Park so this will stand to us. Warm weather training will be good as well as the game goes into the melting pot with 10 minutes to go.

Dubs could spring a surprise after the lucky escape against Wicklow but I think we're looking good for our first Leinster final in 50 years.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 07, 2018, 11:46:02 AM
Any predictions for Sunday's senior semi-finals?

Carlow v Laois - Laois
Dublin v Longford - Longford

Longford have been training on the wide open plains of the Serengeti to get used to Croke Park so this will stand to us. Warm weather training will be good as well as the game goes into the melting pot with 10 minutes to go.

Dubs could spring a surprise after the lucky escape against Wicklow but I think we're looking good for our first Leinster final in 50 years.
Carlow to bate Laois
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 07, 2018, 08:12:53 PM
RTE showing the semi final that nobody cares about.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 07, 2018, 08:22:31 PM
Typical idiocy by RTÉ.
Anybody that wants to see the slaughter will be at the game.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 07, 2018, 10:21:21 PM
I say the Longford players can't wait to be patronised on RTE.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 08, 2018, 07:16:33 AM
I say the Longford players can't wait to be patronised on RTE.

Especially if Marty Morrissey is commentating.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on June 08, 2018, 09:56:37 AM
Any predictions for Sunday's senior semi-finals?

Carlow v Laois - Laois
Dublin v Longford - Longford

Longford have been training on the wide open plains of the Serengeti to get used to Croke Park so this will stand to us. Warm weather training will be good as well as the game goes into the melting pot with 10 minutes to go.

Dubs could spring a surprise after the lucky escape against Wicklow but I think we're looking good for our first Leinster final in 50 years.
Be some craic. Won't be anyone stopping Shamrock Shore running onto the pitch if Longford win...
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 08, 2018, 10:39:43 AM
Quote
Won't be anyone stopping Shamrock Shore running onto the pitch if Longford win...

Ha - I am sure some fecker in a yellow bib will rugby-tackle me as Plan B swings into action.


Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on June 08, 2018, 11:23:11 AM
Quote
Won't be anyone stopping Shamrock Shore running onto the pitch if Longford win...

Ha - I am sure some fecker in a yellow bib will rugby-tackle me as Plan B swings into action.

If you're worth your salt it'll take 10 of them to put you down.  8)
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 08, 2018, 01:25:33 PM
A good plan would be to take off my clothes 5 mins before full time and cover meself in axle grace.

Let the hoors catch me then  ;D

Longford to win by 5
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 10, 2018, 03:11:35 PM
Laois Carlow seems to be following the pattern of their previous 2 encounters this season, Laois with their noses in front should hold on at this stage.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 10, 2018, 03:19:18 PM
Carlow 0-6 Laois 0-7. 56 mins played.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 10, 2018, 03:24:59 PM
Carlow 0-6 Laois 0-9 just 8 mins left.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 10, 2018, 03:28:02 PM
Ah well it would have been a rare good news story out of the Leinster championship to see Carlow reach the final.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 10, 2018, 03:30:46 PM
Almost a goal for Carlow there,  Laois 0-10 Carlow 0-7 about 3 mins to play.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 10, 2018, 03:42:59 PM
FT Laois 0-12 Carlow 0-8. First Leinster final for Laois since 2007.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on June 10, 2018, 03:48:01 PM
Any predictions for Sunday's senior semi-finals?

Carlow v Laois - Laois
Dublin v Longford - Longford

Longford have been training on the wide open plains of the Serengeti to get used to Croke Park so this will stand to us. Warm weather training will be good as well as the game goes into the melting pot with 10 minutes to go.

Dubs could spring a surprise after the lucky escape against Wicklow but I think we're looking good for our first Leinster final in 50 years.
Carlow to bate Laois
Good call
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 10, 2018, 03:50:58 PM
Any predictions for Sunday's senior semi-finals?

Carlow v Laois - Laois
Dublin v Longford - Longford

Longford have been training on the wide open plains of the Serengeti to get used to Croke Park so this will stand to us. Warm weather training will be good as well as the game goes into the melting pot with 10 minutes to go.

Dubs could spring a surprise after the lucky escape against Wicklow but I think we're looking good for our first Leinster final in 50 years.
Carlow to bate Laois
Good call
Maybe Carlow were thinking a match ahead.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 10, 2018, 04:19:09 PM
8 steps by the Dub there
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: tonto1888 on June 10, 2018, 04:22:35 PM
That was a harsh red
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 10, 2018, 04:24:21 PM
That was a harsh red
Would a Dublin player have got a red for the same challenge
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on June 10, 2018, 04:25:00 PM
Why is this on TV?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: tonto1888 on June 10, 2018, 04:25:41 PM
8 steps by the Dub there

Are you gonna count steps taken by every player?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: clarshack on June 10, 2018, 04:25:54 PM
Can't believe that was a red card. Its hard enough beating Dublin as it is without getting decisions like that.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: gerrykeegan on June 10, 2018, 04:27:07 PM
Never a red. Ruined a game. God help Longford now.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: tippabu on June 10, 2018, 04:27:43 PM
Can't believe that was a red card. Its hard enough beating Dublin as it is without getting decisions like that.

He went in to clean cluxton out very late and he def succeeded in that, red for me all day long. Any chance they don't bother showing 2nd half and just show the qualifiers highlights from yesterday insteaf
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 10, 2018, 04:28:41 PM
8 steps by the Dub there

Are you gonna count steps taken by every player?
I will
Referees have to enforce the rules
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on June 10, 2018, 04:30:06 PM
Cooper should be gone.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Harold Disgracey on June 10, 2018, 04:31:06 PM
Very sneaky from Cooper.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: clarshack on June 10, 2018, 04:31:29 PM
Cooper gets away with it. Was a high challenge.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: gerrykeegan on June 10, 2018, 04:31:46 PM
Yes he was very Lucky
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Boycey on June 10, 2018, 04:32:41 PM
Can't believe that was a red card. Its hard enough beating Dublin as it is without getting decisions like that.

He went in to clean cluxton out very late and he def succeeded in that, red for me all day long. Any chance they don't bother showing 2nd half and just show the qualifiers highlights from yesterday insteaf

Yeah I thought it was a red too, surprised the ref gave it though usually the GAA way is 'ah sure it'll ruin the game'
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on June 10, 2018, 04:32:55 PM
Never a red. Ruined a game. God help Longford now.
Longford should do the decent thing now and take a few more of them out to help their fellow midlanders for the final.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: highorlow on June 10, 2018, 04:33:55 PM
I’d say the Dublin game is on TV because AIG would have lobbied RTÉ to show it.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: mrdeeds on June 10, 2018, 04:37:54 PM
Dublin fans booing Longford keeper taking a free and them hammering them. Stay classy.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: tippabu on June 10, 2018, 04:39:36 PM
Carlow laois sounded atrocious but I'd much rather that was on tv rather than a 1/25 team or whatever price Dublin were and save longford an embarrassment.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 10, 2018, 04:42:50 PM
What is the point, seriously, of RTÉ or anyone, showing that pathetic excuse for a contest, with absolutely no disrespect to Longford?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 10, 2018, 04:56:51 PM
What is the point, seriously, of RTÉ or anyone, showing that pathetic excuse for a contest, with absolutely no disrespect to Longford?
I have no idea. Watching paint dry would be more interesting.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: highorlow on June 10, 2018, 04:58:19 PM
It was probably planned way back when it was supposed to be Dublin v Meath.

It’s all Meaths fault.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on June 10, 2018, 05:04:06 PM
Waste of time. Dublin can beat teams, bar maybe 2 or 3, by whatever margin they want to. The final against laois will be the same. Most of their super eight games will be the same too. Kerry, galway and maybe mayo might take them to 5-10 points but that is it.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: armaghniac on June 10, 2018, 05:11:42 PM
It was probably planned way back when it was supposed to be Dublin v Meath.

It’s all Meaths fault.

No doubt. That said, RTÉ like to show some Dublin games, there are half a million TV licences there.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: highorlow on June 10, 2018, 05:11:49 PM
Longford are all over the Dubs in 2nd half
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: tonto1888 on June 10, 2018, 05:13:52 PM
What is the point, seriously, of RTÉ or anyone, showing that pathetic excuse for a contest, with absolutely no disrespect to Longford?
I have no idea. Watching paint dry would be more interesting.

No it wouldn’t
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 10, 2018, 05:15:45 PM
Though, having said that, fair play to the Larries 2nd half, sort of enjoyable :)
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 10, 2018, 05:28:25 PM
CP not even half full for a semi-final double header. Should be played outside CP too, if the Dubs aren't even turning up don't indulge them.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: sid waddell on June 10, 2018, 05:35:59 PM
What is the point, seriously, of RTÉ or anyone, showing that pathetic excuse for a contest, with absolutely no disrespect to Longford?
I have no idea. Watching paint dry would be more interesting.

No it wouldn’t
I'd take watching Dublin v Longford over watching water-based paint drying - it dries very quickly and there's no excitement at all.

But I would categorically not take it over watching oil-based paint drying - it can be vaguely interesting watching how floating dust particles attach themselves to the slow-drying finish. There's nothing vaguely interesting about Dublin v Longford.

Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: tonto1888 on June 10, 2018, 05:52:54 PM
I’ve changed my mind about the red card. It was deserved
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 10, 2018, 06:05:02 PM
We did our best to play football. No disgrace.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 10, 2018, 06:12:19 PM
Yep, fair play to Longford.
They lost, but they lost playing football.
That was probably the best you could hope for, especially with 14 men.
The red card was fully deserved, Cluxton was brought to hospital to be checked out as a result of it.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 10, 2018, 06:53:13 PM
Caught a few minutes of Dublin v Longford, should Cooper have walked for the high elbow?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 10, 2018, 06:57:38 PM
Caught a few minutes of Dublin v Longford, should Cooper have walked for the high elbow?
Without question.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on June 10, 2018, 08:10:25 PM
The
What is the point, seriously, of RTÉ or anyone, showing that pathetic excuse for a contest, with absolutely no disrespect to Longford?
The Down Donegal game on now is as bad
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 10, 2018, 08:15:49 PM
The
What is the point, seriously, of RTÉ or anyone, showing that pathetic excuse for a contest, with absolutely no disrespect to Longford?
The Down Donegal game on now is as bad

Almost, though probably not as predictably so.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: mrdeeds on June 10, 2018, 08:50:34 PM
All the football games today were poor. However scorelines and highlights seem to suggest great games yesterday. Some great goals too.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: macdanger2 on June 10, 2018, 09:46:23 PM
Caught a few minutes of Dublin v Longford, should Cooper have walked for the high elbow?
Without question.

The ref probably didn't want to ruin the game  :o
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 10, 2018, 10:06:09 PM
Caught a few minutes of Dublin v Longford, should Cooper have walked for the high elbow?
Without question.

The ref probably didn't want to ruin the game  :o

When you play at home you get those marginal decisions, away from Croke Park in an away venue, red all day. Sick of telling people this shit adds up.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 10, 2018, 10:33:06 PM
Even a 2nd yellow for a high tackle at a minimum. Deegan was in a bad position to see it in fairness. He should be punished retrospectively but it won't happen.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: tippabu on June 10, 2018, 10:48:37 PM
Even a 2nd yellow for a high tackle at a minimum. Deegan was in a bad position to see it in fairness. He should be punished retrospectively but it won't happen.

jesus dont say that, just let it go. Dublin are unbearable enough with this shite they are constantly peddling that all the culchies are out to get them, and the gaa and the media do everything in their power to try stop them and they are treated so unfairly and no other county (despite being shown loads of examples) get the bans they get. Mad as all this sounds they seem to believe it. Just let it go, they are already in a big hissy because cluxton was hit with a dirty challenge and the longford player only got a red.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: The Hill is Blue on June 10, 2018, 11:00:38 PM
Caught a few minutes of Dublin v Longford, should Cooper have walked for the high elbow?
Without question.

The ref probably didn't want to ruin the game  :o

When you play at home you get those marginal decisions, away from Croke Park in an away venue, red all day. Sick of telling people this shit adds up.

Why not just relish the fact that you are witnessing probably the greatest Gaelic football team of all time. Enjoy it - continuous bellyaching is not good for you.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: mrdeeds on June 10, 2018, 11:08:55 PM
Caught a few minutes of Dublin v Longford, should Cooper have walked for the high elbow?
Without question.

The ref probably didn't want to ruin the game  :o

When you play at home you get those marginal decisions, away from Croke Park in an away venue, red all day. Sick of telling people this shit adds up.

Why not just relish the fact that you are witnessing probably the greatest Gaelic football team of all time. Enjoy it - continuous bellyaching is not good for you.

Because Dublin are the greatest team ever you're not allowed question any decisions that go against them or your county? Have a word with yourself.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: yellowcard on June 10, 2018, 11:32:27 PM
Cooper gets away with blue murder by referees. I seem to recall him getting away with a Kung fu kick against Mayo 3/4 years ago in a semi final and he is almost guaranteed to commit at least one yellow card offence in every match. The closed fist to the jaw incident today was a blatant red but Deegan bottled it.

Laois will be delighted to be back in a Leinster final but the reality of the task facing them will kick in over the next few days. They could potentially face another 15/20 point defeat which many counties often struggle to maintain morale afterwards. They still have an outside chance of the super 8s as long as they realise that their season doesn't end after a Leinster final defeat. In many ways the final qualifier match will be more important for them.

As for Dublin, it's still bemusing listening to Jim Gavin say that the sending off changed the match when the world and his dog knew it was over once the first goal went in. I still get the feeling that his man management of the most talented footballer in Ireland will come back to bite before the end of the season. It's Jim trying to lay down the law but at what price.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 10, 2018, 11:44:30 PM
Cooper gets away with blue murder by referees. I seem to recall him getting away with a Kung fu kick against Mayo 3/4 years ago in a semi final and he is almost guaranteed to commit at least one yellow card offence in every match. The closed fist to the jaw incident today was a blatant red but Deegan bottled it.

Laois will be delighted to be back in a Leinster final but the reality of the task facing them will kick in over the next few days. They could potentially face another 15/20 point defeat which many counties often struggle to maintain morale afterwards. They still have an outside chance of the super 8s as long as they realise that their season doesn't end after a Leinster final defeat. In many ways the final qualifier match will be more important for them.

As for Dublin, it's still bemusing listening to Jim Gavin say that the sending off changed the match when the world and his dog knew it was over once the first goal went in. I still get the feeling that his man management of the most talented footballer in Ireland will come back to bite before the end of the season. It's Jim trying to lay down the law but at what price.

Lol at thinking Connolly is the best player in the country (was he actually ever that?) and lol at the idea his absence is in any way going to prevent Dublin from waltzing away with another AI.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Laoiseabu on June 10, 2018, 11:59:11 PM
Syrerus, Dublin won't win the all Ireland this year . Mark my words
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: joemamas on June 11, 2018, 12:06:14 AM
Even a 2nd yellow for a high tackle at a minimum. Deegan was in a bad position to see it in fairness. He should be punished retrospectively but it won't happen.

Wouldn’t matter if he was or not, a shit referee, lacking balls.
Does John Small in 2016 All-Ireland ring a bell.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on June 11, 2018, 12:08:38 AM
Cooper gets away with blue murder by referees. I seem to recall him getting away with a Kung fu kick against Mayo 3/4 years ago in a semi final and he is almost guaranteed to commit at least one yellow card offence in every match. The closed fist to the jaw incident today was a blatant red but Deegan bottled it.

Laois will be delighted to be back in a Leinster final but the reality of the task facing them will kick in over the next few days. They could potentially face another 15/20 point defeat which many counties often struggle to maintain morale afterwards. They still have an outside chance of the super 8s as long as they realise that their season doesn't end after a Leinster final defeat. In many ways the final qualifier match will be more important for them.

As for Dublin, it's still bemusing listening to Jim Gavin say that the sending off changed the match when the world and his dog knew it was over once the first goal went in. I still get the feeling that his man management of the most talented footballer in Ireland will come back to bite before the end of the season. It's Jim trying to lay down the law but at what price.

Lol at thinking Connolly is the best player in the country (was he actually ever that?) and lol at the idea his absence is in any way going to prevent Dublin from waltzing away with another AI.

Say what you like but he’s an extremely talented footballer and Dublin wouldn’t have won that All Ireland without him last year
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on June 11, 2018, 12:09:18 AM
Syrerus, Dublin won't win the all Ireland this year . Mark my words

And who’s going to stop them?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 11, 2018, 10:17:32 AM
Who let a Sunday Game analyst on to the Board?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 11, 2018, 10:29:21 AM
Laois should go around the county picking the biggest hatchet men from the junior football ranks.
I mean the type of lads that have at least two of their joints permanently strapped up.
Send them out against the Dubs and keep the actual team fresh for the qualifiers.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 11, 2018, 10:39:50 AM
Laois should go around the county picking the biggest hatchet men from the junior football ranks.
I mean the type of lads that have at least two of their joints permanently strapped up.
Send them out against the Dubs and keep the actual team fresh for the qualifiers.

Tongue in cheek but you speak the truth, if I was manager of Laois I would sit the lads down, get the buy-in from the players, rotate the team and go for hell to leather at the qualifiers. I think we can see outside the GAA's team Dublin, Kerry & maybe Galway/Mayo there has been a closing of standards this year, every team in round 4 of the qualifiers will fancy their chances, if they avoid Mayo and their momentum ,and at least it will be played at a neutral venue.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 11, 2018, 10:50:59 AM
Laois should go around the county picking the biggest hatchet men from the junior football ranks.
I mean the type of lads that have at least two of their joints permanently strapped up.
Send them out against the Dubs and keep the actual team fresh for the qualifiers.
Dublin v Camross would make for compelling viewing.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on June 11, 2018, 01:40:17 PM
Was the blood sub rule changed to allow HIA also?

Just noticed that Dublin used 7 subs, as Comerford was a temporary blood sub. Yet, while Cluxton was definitely injured and clearly had to go off in case of concussion, he never actually bled (from what I saw anyway, and I was down that end, although maybe the tv coverage showed something?).
 
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 11, 2018, 02:33:30 PM
When the temporary blood sub rule first came in hadn't the sub to wear a red armband?
How about reintroducing that plus a time limit of 15 minutes?
Then a permanent substitution must be made.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 11, 2018, 05:23:21 PM
A lot of people think Dublin will be dominant indefinitely. People thought the same in the hurling wrt Kilkenny as recently as 2013

Hurling world gets ready to play latest round of catch-me-if-you-can with Kilkenny
Championship 2013: hurling preview
 
Jackie Tyrell and Richie Power emerge on to Croke Park last September
Seán Moran


Fri, May 31, 2013, 12:00
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In the year that the GAA has decided to set about next year reducing the counties in the MacCarthy Cup and creating a tussle for the right to be involved on the game’s elite competition, competitive prospects at the other end of the hurling world are uncertain.
There’s no doubt that Tipperary will be more competitive than last year but that’s balanced by concerns that Galway might wake up to find that 2012 was all a dream. Kilkenny, meanwhile, maintain the stately trajectory that has made them the most dominant team in the history of the game.
This supremacy makes itself felt in different ways. Firstly and most obviously it can be seen in the bald statistics of the era. Kilkenny have taken six of the last seven All-Irelands, a feat of acquisition unprecedented in football or hurling.
Secondly, other counties become more and more obsessed with matching themselves against the perennial champions, both aspirationally as well as in more Byzantine methods of emulation.
There appears to be a view that to achieve a clean hit on Kilkenny come the championship, a team must be able essentially to ambush the champions. The county’s five terminal defeats in the Cody era – three All-Ireland finals and two semi-finals – have all been unexpected. Furthermore, whenever Kilkenny have been underdogs, which admittedly has not happened very much in the last 13 years, going into championship encounters they have delivered fairly stern rebukes.
In the circumstances it is not altogether surprising that opponents prefer the cover of darkness when preparing for battle.
Symbolically or not, Kilkenny made their way to another league title by driving through their biggest rivals in the knockout stages. More ominously, they have been able to promote new players during the spring, further strengthening the panel.
In what must be a concern for the pursuing pack, the champions have an array of younger, emerging talent – as could be seen earlier in the year, across the Fitzgibbon Cup – plus the ability to bring through mature players in their mid-20s, like Lester Ryan who hadn’t featured prominently to date in the senior team but who is a product of the under-21 success of five years ago.
The league win was achieved without four of last September’s starting forwards, all of whom are recovering from injury. On their return, Henry Shefflin, TJ Reid, Richie Power and Walter Walsh will create ferocious competition for places in a panel now considerably stronger than a year ago.
For those trying to identify the eagerly sought Achilles heel, there will be much interest in how speedily Shefflin can return, as last year demonstrated that despite his veteran status, when panic levels are rising he remains incomparably the key leadership figure.
Tipperary have already promoted as many of their under-age success stories as are likely to make it at senior level and the same goes for Galway, leaving both looking for alternative inspiration to kick on and enhance their challenge.
Tipp’s comparative optimism is the product of Eamon O’Shea’s return as manager and in a quote leading up to the league final he put last summer’s nightmare in context – and let’s face it, his whole task is about perspective – by saying that it was just one day on which Kilkenny happened to be better. That explains the desire to optimise the chances of that day coming in August or September.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on June 11, 2018, 09:24:09 PM
A lot of people think Dublin will be dominant indefinitely. People thought the same in the hurling wrt Kilkenny as recently as 2013

Hurling world gets ready to play latest round of catch-me-if-you-can with Kilkenny
Championship 2013: hurling preview
 
Jackie Tyrell and Richie Power emerge on to Croke Park last September
Seán Moran


Fri, May 31, 2013, 12:00
First published: Fri, May 31, 2013, 12:00
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In the year that the GAA has decided to set about next year reducing the counties in the MacCarthy Cup and creating a tussle for the right to be involved on the game’s elite competition, competitive prospects at the other end of the hurling world are uncertain.
There’s no doubt that Tipperary will be more competitive than last year but that’s balanced by concerns that Galway might wake up to find that 2012 was all a dream. Kilkenny, meanwhile, maintain the stately trajectory that has made them the most dominant team in the history of the game.
This supremacy makes itself felt in different ways. Firstly and most obviously it can be seen in the bald statistics of the era. Kilkenny have taken six of the last seven All-Irelands, a feat of acquisition unprecedented in football or hurling.
Secondly, other counties become more and more obsessed with matching themselves against the perennial champions, both aspirationally as well as in more Byzantine methods of emulation.
There appears to be a view that to achieve a clean hit on Kilkenny come the championship, a team must be able essentially to ambush the champions. The county’s five terminal defeats in the Cody era – three All-Ireland finals and two semi-finals – have all been unexpected. Furthermore, whenever Kilkenny have been underdogs, which admittedly has not happened very much in the last 13 years, going into championship encounters they have delivered fairly stern rebukes.
In the circumstances it is not altogether surprising that opponents prefer the cover of darkness when preparing for battle.
Symbolically or not, Kilkenny made their way to another league title by driving through their biggest rivals in the knockout stages. More ominously, they have been able to promote new players during the spring, further strengthening the panel.
In what must be a concern for the pursuing pack, the champions have an array of younger, emerging talent – as could be seen earlier in the year, across the Fitzgibbon Cup – plus the ability to bring through mature players in their mid-20s, like Lester Ryan who hadn’t featured prominently to date in the senior team but who is a product of the under-21 success of five years ago.
The league win was achieved without four of last September’s starting forwards, all of whom are recovering from injury. On their return, Henry Shefflin, TJ Reid, Richie Power and Walter Walsh will create ferocious competition for places in a panel now considerably stronger than a year ago.
For those trying to identify the eagerly sought Achilles heel, there will be much interest in how speedily Shefflin can return, as last year demonstrated that despite his veteran status, when panic levels are rising he remains incomparably the key leadership figure.
Tipperary have already promoted as many of their under-age success stories as are likely to make it at senior level and the same goes for Galway, leaving both looking for alternative inspiration to kick on and enhance their challenge.
Tipp’s comparative optimism is the product of Eamon O’Shea’s return as manager and in a quote leading up to the league final he put last summer’s nightmare in context – and let’s face it, his whole task is about perspective – by saying that it was just one day on which Kilkenny happened to be better. That explains the desire to optimise the chances of that day coming in August or September.

That said, can you see anyone stopping Dublin this year? If so who?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: spuds on June 11, 2018, 10:11:52 PM
A lot of people think Dublin will be dominant indefinitely. People thought the same in the hurling wrt Kilkenny as recently as 2013

Hurling world gets ready to play latest round of catch-me-if-you-can with Kilkenny
Championship 2013: hurling preview
 
Jackie Tyrell and Richie Power emerge on to Croke Park last September
Seán Moran


Fri, May 31, 2013, 12:00
First published: Fri, May 31, 2013, 12:00
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In the year that the GAA has decided to set about next year reducing the counties in the MacCarthy Cup and creating a tussle for the right to be involved on the game’s elite competition, competitive prospects at the other end of the hurling world are uncertain.
There’s no doubt that Tipperary will be more competitive than last year but that’s balanced by concerns that Galway might wake up to find that 2012 was all a dream. Kilkenny, meanwhile, maintain the stately trajectory that has made them the most dominant team in the history of the game.
This supremacy makes itself felt in different ways. Firstly and most obviously it can be seen in the bald statistics of the era. Kilkenny have taken six of the last seven All-Irelands, a feat of acquisition unprecedented in football or hurling.
Secondly, other counties become more and more obsessed with matching themselves against the perennial champions, both aspirationally as well as in more Byzantine methods of emulation.
There appears to be a view that to achieve a clean hit on Kilkenny come the championship, a team must be able essentially to ambush the champions. The county’s five terminal defeats in the Cody era – three All-Ireland finals and two semi-finals – have all been unexpected. Furthermore, whenever Kilkenny have been underdogs, which admittedly has not happened very much in the last 13 years, going into championship encounters they have delivered fairly stern rebukes.
In the circumstances it is not altogether surprising that opponents prefer the cover of darkness when preparing for battle.
Symbolically or not, Kilkenny made their way to another league title by driving through their biggest rivals in the knockout stages. More ominously, they have been able to promote new players during the spring, further strengthening the panel.
In what must be a concern for the pursuing pack, the champions have an array of younger, emerging talent – as could be seen earlier in the year, across the Fitzgibbon Cup – plus the ability to bring through mature players in their mid-20s, like Lester Ryan who hadn’t featured prominently to date in the senior team but who is a product of the under-21 success of five years ago.
The league win was achieved without four of last September’s starting forwards, all of whom are recovering from injury. On their return, Henry Shefflin, TJ Reid, Richie Power and Walter Walsh will create ferocious competition for places in a panel now considerably stronger than a year ago.
For those trying to identify the eagerly sought Achilles heel, there will be much interest in how speedily Shefflin can return, as last year demonstrated that despite his veteran status, when panic levels are rising he remains incomparably the key leadership figure.
Tipperary have already promoted as many of their under-age success stories as are likely to make it at senior level and the same goes for Galway, leaving both looking for alternative inspiration to kick on and enhance their challenge.
Tipp’s comparative optimism is the product of Eamon O’Shea’s return as manager and in a quote leading up to the league final he put last summer’s nightmare in context – and let’s face it, his whole task is about perspective – by saying that it was just one day on which Kilkenny happened to be better. That explains the desire to optimise the chances of that day coming in August or September.

That said, can you see anyone stopping Dublin this year? If so who?
Yeah, Seafoideach, can you reply to Syferus here?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 11, 2018, 10:39:58 PM
A lot of people think Dublin will be dominant indefinitely. People thought the same in the hurling wrt Kilkenny as recently as 2013

Hurling world gets ready to play latest round of catch-me-if-you-can with Kilkenny
Championship 2013: hurling preview
 
Jackie Tyrell and Richie Power emerge on to Croke Park last September
Seán Moran


Fri, May 31, 2013, 12:00
First published: Fri, May 31, 2013, 12:00
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In the year that the GAA has decided to set about next year reducing the counties in the MacCarthy Cup and creating a tussle for the right to be involved on the game’s elite competition, competitive prospects at the other end of the hurling world are uncertain.
There’s no doubt that Tipperary will be more competitive than last year but that’s balanced by concerns that Galway might wake up to find that 2012 was all a dream. Kilkenny, meanwhile, maintain the stately trajectory that has made them the most dominant team in the history of the game.
This supremacy makes itself felt in different ways. Firstly and most obviously it can be seen in the bald statistics of the era. Kilkenny have taken six of the last seven All-Irelands, a feat of acquisition unprecedented in football or hurling.
Secondly, other counties become more and more obsessed with matching themselves against the perennial champions, both aspirationally as well as in more Byzantine methods of emulation.
There appears to be a view that to achieve a clean hit on Kilkenny come the championship, a team must be able essentially to ambush the champions. The county’s five terminal defeats in the Cody era – three All-Ireland finals and two semi-finals – have all been unexpected. Furthermore, whenever Kilkenny have been underdogs, which admittedly has not happened very much in the last 13 years, going into championship encounters they have delivered fairly stern rebukes.
In the circumstances it is not altogether surprising that opponents prefer the cover of darkness when preparing for battle.
Symbolically or not, Kilkenny made their way to another league title by driving through their biggest rivals in the knockout stages. More ominously, they have been able to promote new players during the spring, further strengthening the panel.
In what must be a concern for the pursuing pack, the champions have an array of younger, emerging talent – as could be seen earlier in the year, across the Fitzgibbon Cup – plus the ability to bring through mature players in their mid-20s, like Lester Ryan who hadn’t featured prominently to date in the senior team but who is a product of the under-21 success of five years ago.
The league win was achieved without four of last September’s starting forwards, all of whom are recovering from injury. On their return, Henry Shefflin, TJ Reid, Richie Power and Walter Walsh will create ferocious competition for places in a panel now considerably stronger than a year ago.
For those trying to identify the eagerly sought Achilles heel, there will be much interest in how speedily Shefflin can return, as last year demonstrated that despite his veteran status, when panic levels are rising he remains incomparably the key leadership figure.
Tipperary have already promoted as many of their under-age success stories as are likely to make it at senior level and the same goes for Galway, leaving both looking for alternative inspiration to kick on and enhance their challenge.
Tipp’s comparative optimism is the product of Eamon O’Shea’s return as manager and in a quote leading up to the league final he put last summer’s nightmare in context – and let’s face it, his whole task is about perspective – by saying that it was just one day on which Kilkenny happened to be better. That explains the desire to optimise the chances of that day coming in August or September.

That said, can you see anyone stopping Dublin this year? If so who?
The only team to beat the Dubs since 2013 was Donegal in 2014 I think. They got the tactics spot on.
I don't know if Kerry, Galway or Mayo can execute such a plan this year. But it would be worth a lash.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on June 11, 2018, 10:42:31 PM
A lot of people think Dublin will be dominant indefinitely. People thought the same in the hurling wrt Kilkenny as recently as 2013

Hurling world gets ready to play latest round of catch-me-if-you-can with Kilkenny
Championship 2013: hurling preview
 
Jackie Tyrell and Richie Power emerge on to Croke Park last September
Seán Moran


Fri, May 31, 2013, 12:00
First published: Fri, May 31, 2013, 12:00
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In the year that the GAA has decided to set about next year reducing the counties in the MacCarthy Cup and creating a tussle for the right to be involved on the game’s elite competition, competitive prospects at the other end of the hurling world are uncertain.
There’s no doubt that Tipperary will be more competitive than last year but that’s balanced by concerns that Galway might wake up to find that 2012 was all a dream. Kilkenny, meanwhile, maintain the stately trajectory that has made them the most dominant team in the history of the game.
This supremacy makes itself felt in different ways. Firstly and most obviously it can be seen in the bald statistics of the era. Kilkenny have taken six of the last seven All-Irelands, a feat of acquisition unprecedented in football or hurling.
Secondly, other counties become more and more obsessed with matching themselves against the perennial champions, both aspirationally as well as in more Byzantine methods of emulation.
There appears to be a view that to achieve a clean hit on Kilkenny come the championship, a team must be able essentially to ambush the champions. The county’s five terminal defeats in the Cody era – three All-Ireland finals and two semi-finals – have all been unexpected. Furthermore, whenever Kilkenny have been underdogs, which admittedly has not happened very much in the last 13 years, going into championship encounters they have delivered fairly stern rebukes.
In the circumstances it is not altogether surprising that opponents prefer the cover of darkness when preparing for battle.
Symbolically or not, Kilkenny made their way to another league title by driving through their biggest rivals in the knockout stages. More ominously, they have been able to promote new players during the spring, further strengthening the panel.
In what must be a concern for the pursuing pack, the champions have an array of younger, emerging talent – as could be seen earlier in the year, across the Fitzgibbon Cup – plus the ability to bring through mature players in their mid-20s, like Lester Ryan who hadn’t featured prominently to date in the senior team but who is a product of the under-21 success of five years ago.
The league win was achieved without four of last September’s starting forwards, all of whom are recovering from injury. On their return, Henry Shefflin, TJ Reid, Richie Power and Walter Walsh will create ferocious competition for places in a panel now considerably stronger than a year ago.
For those trying to identify the eagerly sought Achilles heel, there will be much interest in how speedily Shefflin can return, as last year demonstrated that despite his veteran status, when panic levels are rising he remains incomparably the key leadership figure.
Tipperary have already promoted as many of their under-age success stories as are likely to make it at senior level and the same goes for Galway, leaving both looking for alternative inspiration to kick on and enhance their challenge.
Tipp’s comparative optimism is the product of Eamon O’Shea’s return as manager and in a quote leading up to the league final he put last summer’s nightmare in context – and let’s face it, his whole task is about perspective – by saying that it was just one day on which Kilkenny happened to be better. That explains the desire to optimise the chances of that day coming in August or September.

That said, can you see anyone stopping Dublin this year? If so who?
The only team to beat the Dubs since 2013 was Donegal in 2014 I think. They got the tactics spot on.
I don't know if Kerry, Galway or Mayo can execute such a plan this year. But it would be worth a lash.

I’m not sure how Donegal are looking this year so I won’t comment. But I feel like this year is too soon for Kerry. I think Mayo missed their last shot at it this year. Galway probably aren’t up to it. Tyrone and Monaghan aren’t shaping up to well either. So can’t see much other than another AI for the Subs
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 11, 2018, 11:43:54 PM
Sure aren't Galway going to do the Senior and U20 All Ireland double this  year.
And probably the Junior and Minor as well.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on June 11, 2018, 11:45:47 PM
Sure aren't Galway going to do the Senior and U20 All Ireland double this  year.
And probably the Junior and Minor as well.

Until they freeze up in Croker
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on June 12, 2018, 08:51:28 AM
Sure aren't Galway going to do the Senior and U20 All Ireland double this  year.
And probably the Junior and Minor as well.
I see what you did there.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: highorlow on June 12, 2018, 09:36:53 AM
Quote
Just noticed that Dublin used 7 subs, as Comerford was a temporary blood sub. Yet, while Cluxton was definitely injured and clearly had to go off in case of concussion, he never actually bled (from what I saw anyway, and I was down that end, although maybe the tv coverage showed something?).

The blood sub rule was used for Cluxton, according to the live commentary in anyways. Probably internal bleeding.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: spuds on June 12, 2018, 03:27:24 PM
What's the rule on likes of Jason Sherlock running on to pitch non stop during games? Was not carrying water bottle.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 12, 2018, 09:18:07 PM
Should be a good junior final between Kildare and Meath in Croke park Sunday week. Pity about the senior game after it.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 13, 2018, 08:10:00 AM
Meath and Lonford had a great aul game last night. Meath came out on top but Longford's awful start killed them. Final score was Meath 2-23 Longford 2-18.

Good luck to Meath in the final.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 13, 2018, 10:35:17 AM
Sounded like a cracker alright.
Junior intercounty is very enjoyable to watch as you get a lot of talented, natural footballers who might not be 'athletic' enough for senior level.
That drop off in athleticism means there is more space to actually play football in.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on June 14, 2018, 08:58:58 AM
Offaly’s U20 Football Management Declan Kelly, David Connolly, Conan Curley and Georgie Digan have named their side to play Louth in their 2nd Round game of the Eirgrid Leinster Football Championship on Saturday afternoon 16th June in Bord na Mona O’Connor Park at 3pm.

The Team Selection is

1. Barry Rohan (Shannonbridge)

2. Ronan Hynes (Shannonbridge)

3. Pa Robilliard (Tullamore ) (Captain)

4. Aidan Bracken (Ballycommon)

5. Jack Quinn (Ballycumber)

6. Stefan Geoghegan (Bracknagh)

7. Jack O’Brien (Durrow)

8. Kyle Higgins (Ferbane)

9. Sean Ibbotson (Ferbane)

10. Kevin McDermott (Durrow)

11. Conor Dunne (Ballycommon)

12. Dan Wyer (Durrow)

13. Cian Johnson (Ferbane)

14. Cian Farrell  (Edenderry)

15. Jack Darcy (Shannonbridge)
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on June 16, 2018, 07:30:02 AM
Meath (Leinster U20FC v Laois, 2pm)

Adam McDermott;

Robbie Clarke, Conor Harnan, Kieran Slavin;
Jason Scully, Eanna O'Kelly Lynch, James Cassidy;

Darragh Campion, Adam Murphy;

Eoin Smith, Ethan Devine, Frank O'Reilly;
James Conlon, Conor Moriarty, Shane McDonnell.


Conor Moriarty flying the flag for Curragha. He’s looking like a good prospect hopefully in a few years.

A Meath win will get us into the semifinals. Laois are always a tough team for us but I think these lads have a good record against them coming up the minor ranks.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on June 16, 2018, 09:39:06 AM
Offaly Louth changed to Sunday @11 in OCP
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 16, 2018, 11:49:53 AM
Meath (Leinster U20FC v Laois, 2pm)

Adam McDermott;

Robbie Clarke, Conor Harnan, Kieran Slavin;
Jason Scully, Eanna O'Kelly Lynch, James Cassidy;

Darragh Campion, Adam Murphy;

Eoin Smith, Ethan Devine, Frank O'Reilly;
James Conlon, Conor Moriarty, Shane McDonnell.


Conor Moriarty flying the flag for Curragha. He’s looking like a good prospect hopefully in a few years.

A Meath win will get us into the semifinals. Laois are always a tough team for us but I think these lads have a good record against them coming up the minor ranks.

Moriarity was quiet the last day, Conlon in the corner was a handful but it is hard for little players to step up to senior. I was hugely impressed with McDermott in goals and he should step up to your seniors soon enough. Ethan Devine looks a good player too(any relation to Jody?).
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 16, 2018, 02:48:59 PM
HT
Laois 0-05
Meath 0-10

Wexford 0-08
Dublin 0-05
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on June 16, 2018, 04:30:35 PM
Full Time

Laois 0-13
Meath 2-12

Wexford 0-11
Dublin 1-15
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 16, 2018, 07:18:01 PM
The Wexford goalie kicked an outrageous point FROM PLAY today.  :o
https://twitter.com/Wexford2day/status/1008015883296542720 (https://twitter.com/Wexford2day/status/1008015883296542720)
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 16, 2018, 08:32:12 PM
The Wexford goalie kicked an outrageous point FROM PLAY today.  :o
https://twitter.com/Wexford2day/status/1008015883296542720 (https://twitter.com/Wexford2day/status/1008015883296542720)

Class, challenge set for Brody Sunday week.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 16, 2018, 08:35:18 PM
The Wexford goalie kicked an outrageous point FROM PLAY today.  :o
https://twitter.com/Wexford2day/status/1008015883296542720 (https://twitter.com/Wexford2day/status/1008015883296542720)
I'm guessing that goal keeper plays out the field for his club?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 16, 2018, 08:42:03 PM
Kildare were solid enough against a poor Wicklow team winning 3-17 to 4 points. Started off slowly but Jimmy Hyland got going and kicked either 12 or 13 points before going off in the middle of the second half. Mostly from play.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on June 16, 2018, 11:04:41 PM
The Wexford goalie kicked an outrageous point FROM PLAY today.  :o
https://twitter.com/Wexford2day/status/1008015883296542720 (https://twitter.com/Wexford2day/status/1008015883296542720)

Class, challenge set for Brody Sunday week.
that was awesome!

And really looking forward to Briody next week! The Hill will love him!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 16, 2018, 11:08:31 PM
The Wexford goalie kicked an outrageous point FROM PLAY today.  :o
https://twitter.com/Wexford2day/status/1008015883296542720 (https://twitter.com/Wexford2day/status/1008015883296542720)
I'm guessing that goal keeper plays out the field for his club?

He should be playing out the field for the county!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 02:19:51 PM
Leinster JFC Final
HT
Meath 1-11
Kildare 1-07
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 02:51:48 PM
Latest score in 2nd half
Meath 2-12
Kildare 2-14
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 03:26:08 PM
FT
Meath 2-15
Kildare 2-17
Congrats to the junior lillies.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 24, 2018, 03:27:50 PM
FT
Meath 2-17
Kildare 2-15
Congrats to the junior lillies.
????
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 03:28:57 PM
oops
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on June 24, 2018, 03:52:58 PM
No Cluxton.

Delighted to see Cooper captain
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on June 24, 2018, 03:55:42 PM
Laois will have to put pressure on Comerford. Launch a few high balls on top of him and give him no easy kickouts
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on June 24, 2018, 03:57:39 PM
Hope they give it a rattle and have a bit of pride in the jersey. Can't ask for anymore than that.
Will take a miracle to actually win.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 24, 2018, 03:58:36 PM
Two teams playing in blue again.

Ridiculous!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on June 24, 2018, 03:58:54 PM
Blue man on the Hill is excited anyway!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 04:04:24 PM
"Paul Mannion switching from one wing to the other"  ;D
He's fast, but he's not that fast, Marty.

Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on June 24, 2018, 04:05:13 PM
Game over and a tanking to come.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 24, 2018, 04:05:51 PM
Bad enough that it’s not going to be a contest but listening to Marty and Dessie is painful.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 24, 2018, 04:06:21 PM
The Dubs have lost one match in Leinster in 14 years. #Jaysus
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 24, 2018, 04:08:25 PM
Whats Dublin tactics today? take the goals and the points will come?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 04:12:54 PM
The Dubs running at 3/4 pace is like most players sprinting.
They just eat up the ground.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: shark on June 24, 2018, 04:13:05 PM
The Dubs have lost one match in Leinster in 14 years. #Jaysus

9 matches in 23 years sounds slightly better  ;)


Slightly.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: spuds on June 24, 2018, 04:16:18 PM
Fair balls to Laoighis.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 24, 2018, 04:17:01 PM
At least Laois are more organised than Longford was.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 24, 2018, 04:17:23 PM
The Dubs have lost one match in Leinster in 14 years. #Jaysus

9 matches in 23 years sounds slightly better  ;)


Slightly.
I remember feeling sorry for them between 91 and 94
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 04:18:45 PM
Dublin will get annoyed if Laois aren't careful.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 24, 2018, 04:19:41 PM
Why are they both wearing blue jerseys? Amateur stuff and not in a good way.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: hardstation on June 24, 2018, 04:22:01 PM
What a brutal penalty effort.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 24, 2018, 04:22:33 PM
Andrews clearly holding the defenders arm in front of the referee just before that penalty
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 04:23:44 PM
What a brutal penalty effort.

Surprisingly so.
Mannion was a serious soccer player.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: spuds on June 24, 2018, 04:25:05 PM
What a brutal penalty effort.

Surprisingly so.
Mannion was a serious soccer player.
Yeah. Irish soccer players always score their penalties.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 24, 2018, 04:26:41 PM
What a brutal penalty effort.

Surprisingly so.
Mannion was a serious soccer player.
Plenty of football players are brutal at taking penalties ask England. This is the worst i have seen Dublin play since the 2016 drawn All Ireland final. Fair play to Laois though tactics spot on so far.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 04:27:37 PM
You HAVE to try for the goal there.
Infuriating.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 24, 2018, 04:28:37 PM
That is not a foot block
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: spuds on June 24, 2018, 04:30:37 PM
That is not a foot block
Is a foot block an automatic yellow? Very harsh if not. Was definitely not dangerous play.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 24, 2018, 04:32:05 PM
Laois are not too shabby
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 04:32:33 PM
I'm under no illusions Laois can win this game, but fair play to them for having a go.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 04:37:53 PM
What Brody does makes perfect sense.
Why does Marty react like he's watching a monkey on a unicycle?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 24, 2018, 04:38:53 PM
Well done to Laois a good 1st half from them. I hope they aren't running on empty and are able to give a good account of themselves in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 24, 2018, 04:39:26 PM
I'm under no illusions Laois can win this game, but fair play to them for having a go.
Very positive attitude compared to certain other Leinster counties cough cough
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 24, 2018, 04:39:36 PM
I'm under no illusions Laois can win this game, but fair play to them for having a go.

Being glad when a team is being bet by double scores shows just how much Dublin have warped the perspective in IC football. This sport isn’t a proper competition at all.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Zulu on June 24, 2018, 04:39:49 PM
Dessie seems convinced football is a non-contact game.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 04:40:09 PM
Dublin will make a few changes and the last 15 mins will be a massacre, if they feel like it.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 24, 2018, 04:42:26 PM
Dessie seems convinced football is a non-contact game.

Congrats on another pre-season trophy for The Boys in Blue™, Zulu. I hope you could make it home for this one and didn’t have to rely on the Dubs Match Tracker™ to stay up to date.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 24, 2018, 04:49:07 PM
Dessie seems convinced football is a non-contact game.
It was how he played the game I suppose.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on June 24, 2018, 04:50:06 PM
Dubs not great. Laois doing well enough, but that time they had 2 on 1 they should defo have tried to work a goal. A 1-2 with Kingston would most likely have resulted in an easy enough chance.

McCaffrey on shortly I'd say.

No pressure on Comerford's kickouts. 
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on June 24, 2018, 04:51:34 PM
What Brody does makes perfect sense.
Why does Marty react like he's watching a monkey on a unicycle?
In fairness, nobody else does it at this level. I find it great fun to watch.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 24, 2018, 04:53:57 PM
Where are all the Dubs?

Down by the canal drinking tins probably
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 04:54:46 PM
If you have an athletic keeper who's comfortable on the ball it's a no-brainer.
What's the risk?
It's not soccer, if anyone boots a ball towards the goals one of the FB line can cover.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 24, 2018, 04:55:42 PM
41,728 in Croke Park in attendance at GAA HQ.per RTE.

One big reason attendances are stagnant is the lack of competition in the provinces.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 24, 2018, 05:00:01 PM
Clear free for Laois
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on June 24, 2018, 05:02:36 PM
Clear free for Laois
Perfectly timed shoulder just as ball reached Laoisman. The contact was with the Laois lad's shoulder
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 24, 2018, 05:03:25 PM
Clear free for Laois
Perfectly timed shoulder just as ball reached Laoisman. The contact was with the Laois lad's shoulder
bull
It was into back of shoulder
And the rule is side to side
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 05:05:38 PM
Laois are winning plenty of ball in the forward line.
Philly not happy when he's isolated on Donie.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: shark on June 24, 2018, 05:08:34 PM
Laois are winning plenty of ball in the forward line.
Philly not happy when he's isolated on Donie.

I can’t imagine many people would be.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on June 24, 2018, 05:08:56 PM
Laois are winning plenty of ball in the forward line.
Philly not happy when he's isolated on Donie.
soft free that time. maybe that evens it up!

Dubs have no full backs. Plenty of corner and half backs, but no full back since Rory left. Nobody has taken advantage of that. Donaghy causes us more problems than anybody.

Aidan O'Se won every ball when he played FF, but Mayo never had a lad up with him for him to pass it to. Very difficult to win it , then barge through 2 or 3 lads.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 24, 2018, 05:11:03 PM
Laois were level on 17 mins 1-1 to 0-4, 30 mins played since then and outscored 0-12 to 0-3
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 24, 2018, 05:11:49 PM
Laois cannot buy a free here
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 05:12:37 PM
Every time Michael Dara McCauley has the chance to kick the ball, it's like there's a little voice in his head that says, "I wouldn't if I was you, Michael."
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 05:16:01 PM
20 minutes left...
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on June 24, 2018, 05:16:32 PM
Every time Michael Dara McCauley has the chance to kick the ball, it's like there's a little voice in his head that says, "I wouldn't if I was you, Michael."
He'd be some footballer if he could kick a football!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on June 24, 2018, 05:17:37 PM
Feels like Dublin haven't actually been that great today and then you look at the scoreboard and they are 14 points up.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: imtommygunn on June 24, 2018, 05:19:41 PM
Fully deserved red. What was he at.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 05:22:17 PM
Jack McCaffrey is too fast for his own good.
He's on top of the keeper every time he shoots.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on June 24, 2018, 05:22:50 PM
Fully deserved red. What was he at.
I dunno whether he was trying to punch the ball out of yer man's hands? But missed by a long way. Either incredibly careless or incredibly stupid. I'd bet on the latter, he's not the brightest spark. Red card either way.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 05:25:04 PM
Johnny Cooper needs to sit down with Small and show him how to refine his dirt.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on June 24, 2018, 05:27:39 PM
Johnny Cooper needs to sit down with Small and show him how to refine his dirt.
Johnny's tough. And clever. Has Meath blood in him I'd say!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 24, 2018, 05:28:28 PM
Laois were gassed out after 30 minutes.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: JoG2 on June 24, 2018, 05:29:29 PM
Fully deserved red. What was he at.

Yes, but as it was on the ball, the call should be Cassidys and Cassidys alone no, and not the linesmans call?

Must be hard commentating on a Leinster match involving Dublin
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on June 24, 2018, 05:30:44 PM
I'm a huge fan of Paddy Andrews. But Cormac Costello has done enough today to warrant a start v Donegal.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 05:35:05 PM
'Psycho' has done well since he came on for Laois.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 24, 2018, 05:35:55 PM
At least he can’t tweet while he’s on the pitch.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 24, 2018, 05:39:21 PM
The Dubs looked more like themselves in that 2nd half but Laois had nothing left after doing most of their running first half.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on June 24, 2018, 05:57:06 PM
The Dubs looked more like themselves in that 2nd half but Laois had nothing left after doing most of their running first half.
Dublin certainly didnt look unbeatable today. Not sure what happened Laois in 2nd half
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 24, 2018, 05:57:58 PM
The Dubs looked more like themselves in that 2nd half but Laois had nothing left after doing most of their running first half.
Dublin certainly didnt look unbeatable today. Not sure what happened Laois in 2nd half

Oh, feck off.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 24, 2018, 06:03:30 PM
The game is banjaxed

The four 2017 provincial finals had an average winning margin of 0-9, the four quarterfinals concluded with an average margin of 0-15, and the semi-finals’ concluding average was 0-9.

2018 is already better regarding provincial finals

Dublin 1-25 Laois 0-10 : 28-10 = 18
Kerry 3-18 Cork 2-4 A record :27-10 =17
Donegal 2-18 Fermanagh 0-12 : 24-12 = 12
Galway 0-16  Roscommon 2-6 : 16-12 =4

Total points difference

18+17+12+4= 51
Average = 13

The attendances are confirmation.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 24, 2018, 06:25:44 PM
RTE must be paying the analysts to call for a tiered championship. The coverage of the Christy Ring yesterday shows what will happen when that day comes.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on June 24, 2018, 06:30:31 PM
The game is banjaxed

The four 2017 provincial finals had an average winning margin of 0-9, the four quarterfinals concluded with an average margin of 0-15, and the semi-finals’ concluding average was 0-9.

2018 is already better regarding provincial finals

Dublin 1-25 Laois 0-10 : 28-10 = 18
Kerry 3-18 Cork 2-4 A record :27-10 =17
Donegal 2-18 Fermanagh 0-12 : 24-12 = 12
Galway 0-16  Roscommon 2-6 : 16-12 =4

Total points difference

18+17+12+4= 51
Average = 13

The attendances are confirmation.

You've forgotten the golden rule - A strong Dublin guarantees a strong GAA.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: From the Bunker on June 24, 2018, 06:32:43 PM
RTE must be paying the analysts to call for a tiered championship. The coverage of the Christy Ring yesterday shows what will happen when that day comes.

All Spillane cares about is his Legacy! All O'Rourke cares about is financing his financial losses. All Brolly cares about is being noticed!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: seafoid on June 24, 2018, 06:43:22 PM
The game is banjaxed

The four 2017 provincial finals had an average winning margin of 0-9, the four quarterfinals concluded with an average margin of 0-15, and the semi-finals’ concluding average was 0-9.

2018 is already better regarding provincial finals

Dublin 1-25 Laois 0-10 : 28-10 = 18
Kerry 3-18 Cork 2-4 A record :27-10 =17
Donegal 2-18 Fermanagh 0-12 : 24-12 = 12
Galway 0-16  Roscommon 2-6 : 16-12 =4

Total points difference

18+17+12+4= 51
Average = 13

The attendances are confirmation.

You've forgotten the golden rule - A strong Dublin guarantees a strong GAA.
There arent 8 decent teams either
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 24, 2018, 07:01:09 PM
The game is banjaxed

The four 2017 provincial finals had an average winning margin of 0-9, the four quarterfinals concluded with an average margin of 0-15, and the semi-finals’ concluding average was 0-9.

2018 is already better regarding provincial finals

Dublin 1-25 Laois 0-10 : 28-10 = 18  ( Div 1 v Div 4)
Kerry 3-18 Cork 2-4 A record :27-10 =17  (Div 1 v average Div 2 team)
Donegal 2-18 Fermanagh 0-12 : 24-12 = 12  (Div 1 v Div 3)
Galway 0-16  Roscommon 2-6 : 16-12 =4 (Div 1 v Div 2 side just promoted back)

Total points difference

18+17+12+4= 51
Average = 13

The attendances are confirmation.

Any surprise that the Connacht final was the most closely contested one?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: laoislad on June 24, 2018, 07:26:42 PM
Hope they give it a rattle and have a bit of pride in the jersey. Can't ask for anymore than that.
Will take a miracle to actually win.
Well we gave it a good rattle for the first half anyway and showed plenty of pride I thought.
Dublin never got out of second gear really though.
Was nice to be back in Leinster Final. Hopefully we can get into the Super 8s, it's been a good season regardless.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 24, 2018, 08:56:54 PM
The game is banjaxed

The four 2017 provincial finals had an average winning margin of 0-9, the four quarterfinals concluded with an average margin of 0-15, and the semi-finals’ concluding average was 0-9.

2018 is already better regarding provincial finals

Dublin 1-25 Laois 0-10 : 28-10 = 18
Kerry 3-18 Cork 2-4 A record :27-10 =17
Donegal 2-18 Fermanagh 0-12 : 24-12 = 12
Galway 0-16  Roscommon 2-6 : 16-12 =4

Total points difference

18+17+12+4= 51
Average = 13

The attendances are confirmation.

Circa 30k in Clones today...
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 24, 2018, 11:06:20 PM
The game is banjaxed

The four 2017 provincial finals had an average winning margin of 0-9, the four quarterfinals concluded with an average margin of 0-15, and the semi-finals’ concluding average was 0-9.

2018 is already better regarding provincial finals

Dublin 1-25 Laois 0-10 : 28-10 = 18
Kerry 3-18 Cork 2-4 A record :27-10 =17
Donegal 2-18 Fermanagh 0-12 : 24-12 = 12
Galway 0-16  Roscommon 2-6 : 16-12 =4

Total points difference

18+17+12+4= 51
Average = 13

The attendances are confirmation.


Not a record...
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 24, 2018, 11:15:17 PM
Under 20 championship sees Kildare and Offaly playing in Tullamore Friday evening with Meath and Dublin playing in Navan Saturday night. Should be 2 very competitive games. I was under the impression that Kildare would be meeting Dublin in the semi final but Offaly will be every bit as tough as it is a talented group they have.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 11:35:35 PM
So our reward for beating Kildare is to play Dublin in the semi, and if we beat them play Kildare again in the final (probably).  ???
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on June 24, 2018, 11:40:22 PM
I’m going to make an out-there prediction.
Offaly are going to win the Leinster u20 Championship, and get to the all-Ireland.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 24, 2018, 11:41:04 PM
So our reward for beating Kildare is to play Dublin in the semi, and if we beat them play Kildare again in the final (probably).  ???

Offaly might have been just as tough, they put Westmeath to the sword in more convincing fashion than Dublin did.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 11:44:28 PM
We topped our group and Dublin topped their group.
Someone explain to me how we're playing against each other in a semi-final.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on June 24, 2018, 11:45:50 PM
So our reward for beating Kildare is to play Dublin in the semi, and if we beat them play Kildare again in the final (probably).  ???

Offaly might have been just as tough, they put Westmeath to the sword in more convincing fashion than Dublin did.
And we decided to go for goals during a 5-10 minute period, getting none. Wasting countless attempts, whereas if we took points, the win would have been a lot more comprehensive.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on June 24, 2018, 11:46:27 PM
We topped our group and Dublin topped their group.
Someone explain to me how we're playing against each other in a semi-final, and the 2nd place teams are in the other one.
Erm… we topped our group.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 24, 2018, 11:46:40 PM
Offaly get to an-ireland, if they will get outta leinster they be playing Kerry
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 24, 2018, 11:47:21 PM
We topped our group and Dublin topped their group.
Someone explain to me how we're playing against each other in a semi-final, and the 2nd place teams are in the other one.

Offaly topped their 3 team group too, Kildare the only team left who lost a game. It would have been logical for it to be set up with Meath and Dublin separated but the end result doesn't really matter too much as the 4 teams are probably well matched.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 24, 2018, 11:47:32 PM
We topped our group and Dublin topped their group.
Someone explain to me how we're playing against each other in a semi-final, and the 2nd place teams are in the other one.
Erm… we topped our group.

I know, just edited.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on June 24, 2018, 11:54:25 PM
Offaly get to an-ireland, if they will get outta leinster they be playing Kerry
ah balls, I was banking on meeting Mayo or whoever wins/won Ulster.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on June 27, 2018, 08:57:54 PM
Leinster minor football championship result from tonight:

Dublin 0-8 Wicklow 2-6
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 27, 2018, 09:20:40 PM
 :o :o :o
Time to split Wicklow!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 27, 2018, 09:33:06 PM
Meath guaranteed to top the group and can knock Dublin out if they also manage to lose to Wicklow. Meath beat Offaly by a point tonight. Offaly can still scrape second but would need results to go their way.

Kildare had an extremely facile win over Laois where it finished 5-10 to 1-6. Kildare kicked awful wides and should have won by more. Kildare are guaranteed a semi final place and will more than likely top the group. Laois are in second but if Longford beat Kildare in the final round Longford will go through also. Group A is probably a higher standard.

Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on June 28, 2018, 01:00:13 AM
We struggled tonight but dug deep with 14 men to get the vital scores in injury time. Bodes well but we can’t afford to as play as poorly again. Only got 1-4 in the second half and goal came very late.

Where can I see the minor group tables? Who is number 2 in group 2?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on June 28, 2018, 01:41:55 AM


Where can I see the minor group tables? Who is number 2 in group 2?




Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on June 28, 2018, 07:14:51 AM
So Dubs still every chance of scraping through (Meath will defo their close neighbours a favour, half their team probably have Dub parents!). Although looking at those results it would seem a hammering v Kildare in the semis would be the ultimate fate if that did happen!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on June 28, 2018, 07:26:34 AM
Where did you get the tables from blowitup? I don’t see them on the Leinster page.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 28, 2018, 09:38:45 AM
:o :o :o
Time to split Wicklow!
The Wicklow Mountains are doing a fine enough job of that as it is.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 09:51:04 AM
Where did you get the tables from blowitup? I don’t see them on the Leinster page.

The Leinster GAA Twitter Account, an excellent resource in fairness to them.

@leinstergaa
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 10:03:21 AM
So Dubs still every chance of scraping through (Meath will defo their close neighbours a favour, half their team probably have Dub parents!). Although looking at those results it would seem a hammering v Kildare in the semis would be the ultimate fate if that did happen!

The groups are very lopsided, group A much stronger. Took extra time to separate Kildare & Wicklow in the Fr Manning last year.

Meath should run their squad, they are guaranteed top spot.

Dublin have a different and successful strategy when it comes to development, I suspect the drop in a year has affected them the most. Their u20s play Meath this weekend, a much better indicator.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 28, 2018, 10:12:16 AM
We struggled tonight but dug deep with 14 men to get the vital scores in injury time. Bodes well but we can’t afford to as play as poorly again. Only got 1-4 in the second half and goal came very late.

Where can I see the minor group tables? Who is number 2 in group 2?

Yeah, I saw the lads were 6 up in the 2nd half and that would be that.
Still though, every tight game you win is worth its weight in gold at this level.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 10:21:46 AM
We struggled tonight but dug deep with 14 men to get the vital scores in injury time. Bodes well but we can’t afford to as play as poorly again. Only got 1-4 in the second half and goal came very late.

Where can I see the minor group tables? Who is number 2 in group 2?

Yeah, I saw the lads were 6 up in the 2nd half and that would be that.
Still though, every tight game you win is worth its weight in gold at this level.

How much does a game weigh?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 28, 2018, 10:23:11 AM
Games against Offaly weigh more than most.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 10:25:34 AM
Games against Offaly weigh more than most.

I hope so, it would be nice to get back to that position!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 28, 2018, 10:28:29 AM
And not just because of the pints & fags.  ;)
Offaly have a habit of pulling the rug from under us at underage level.
I never trust ye!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on June 28, 2018, 10:33:46 AM
So Dubs still every chance of scraping through (Meath will defo their close neighbours a favour, half their team probably have Dub parents!). Although looking at those results it would seem a hammering v Kildare in the semis would be the ultimate fate if that did happen!

The groups are very lopsided, group A much stronger. Took extra time to separate Kildare & Wicklow in the Fr Manning last year.

Meath should run their squad, they are guaranteed top spot.

Dublin have a different and successful strategy when it comes to development, I suspect the drop in a year has affected them the most. Their u20s play Meath this weekend, a much better indicator.
Ah Meath wouldnt wanna be going into the semis on the back of a defeat  :P

It would be interesting to know reasons behind Dublin being relatively poor at minor, but being reasonably successful at U20/21. My understanding is that after minor, most of the lads fall away from Dublin completely, and some will get called up in a year or two years for the 20s/21s. In the meantime they are back at their clubs, and so my view is that I think it is playing adult with the club that helps improve them a lot.

(And also, maybe oddly enough, the U21 Dublin championship is the least thought of and worst run of all competitions run by the Dublin county board!)

I was going to say Dublin have a chance against Meath in the U20s, but that Meath will most probably take them. But just checked the odds and Dubs are very warm favourites.  I've heard very little positive about the Dublin U20s this year!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 28, 2018, 12:59:42 PM
Paul Rouse is staying on as Offaly manager just to annoy Dinny.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/paul-rouse-set-to-stay-on-as-offaly-manager-after-promising-start-on-faithful-sideline-37059007.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/paul-rouse-set-to-stay-on-as-offaly-manager-after-promising-start-on-faithful-sideline-37059007.html)
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 01:03:17 PM
Paul Rouse is staying on as Offaly manager just to annoy Dinny.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/paul-rouse-set-to-stay-on-as-offaly-manager-after-promising-start-on-faithful-sideline-37059007.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/paul-rouse-set-to-stay-on-as-offaly-manager-after-promising-start-on-faithful-sideline-37059007.html)

I'd have thought Dinny'd be delighted. He'll be too busy sorting out rows in Offaly to be starting them on Newstalk.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 02:15:54 PM
Paul Rouse is staying on as Offaly manager just to annoy Dinny.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/paul-rouse-set-to-stay-on-as-offaly-manager-after-promising-start-on-faithful-sideline-37059007.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/paul-rouse-set-to-stay-on-as-offaly-manager-after-promising-start-on-faithful-sideline-37059007.html)

I'd have thought Dinny'd be delighted. He'll be too busy sorting out rows in Offaly to be starting them on Newstalk.

Great news, fecking clown. In charge of a football team and he doesn't rate Michael Donnellan and celebrating beating Antrim as if they won an All-Ireland. No wonder he's a sports historian, he lives in the past.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 28, 2018, 03:17:13 PM
#OffalyRising
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Syferus on June 28, 2018, 03:22:26 PM
Meaty should do the manly thing and let Wicklow win.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 03:36:59 PM
Paul Rouse is staying on as Offaly manager just to annoy Dinny.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/paul-rouse-set-to-stay-on-as-offaly-manager-after-promising-start-on-faithful-sideline-37059007.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/paul-rouse-set-to-stay-on-as-offaly-manager-after-promising-start-on-faithful-sideline-37059007.html)

I'd have thought Dinny'd be delighted. He'll be too busy sorting out rows in Offaly to be starting them on Newstalk.

Great news, fecking clown. In charge of a football team and he doesn't rate Michael Donnellan and celebrating beating Antrim as if they won an All-Ireland. No wonder he's a sports historian, he lives in the past.

In fairness, if you had seen them against Wicklow, you'd have considered beating Antrim a major achievement too.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 03:41:13 PM
Paul Rouse is staying on as Offaly manager just to annoy Dinny.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/paul-rouse-set-to-stay-on-as-offaly-manager-after-promising-start-on-faithful-sideline-37059007.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/paul-rouse-set-to-stay-on-as-offaly-manager-after-promising-start-on-faithful-sideline-37059007.html)

I'd have thought Dinny'd be delighted. He'll be too busy sorting out rows in Offaly to be starting them on Newstalk.

Great news, fecking clown. In charge of a football team and he doesn't rate Michael Donnellan and celebrating beating Antrim as if they won an All-Ireland. No wonder he's a sports historian, he lives in the past.

In fairness, if you had seen them against Wicklow, you'd have considered beating Antrim a major achievement too.

Na, I am being slight disingenuous, he spoke with great passion after that game, I almost almost warmed to him. 
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 03:43:01 PM
Paul Rouse is staying on as Offaly manager just to annoy Dinny.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/paul-rouse-set-to-stay-on-as-offaly-manager-after-promising-start-on-faithful-sideline-37059007.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/paul-rouse-set-to-stay-on-as-offaly-manager-after-promising-start-on-faithful-sideline-37059007.html)
He’s not getting paid to be fair. He doesn’t want anything.

I'd have thought Dinny'd be delighted. He'll be too busy sorting out rows in Offaly to be starting them on Newstalk.

Great news, fecking clown. In charge of a football team and he doesn't rate Michael Donnellan and celebrating beating Antrim as if they won an All-Ireland. No wonder he's a sports historian, he lives in the past.

How will Friday night go LC? Confident? They were a decent side 2 years ago, the semi-final that year against Laois didn't reflect their ability.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on June 28, 2018, 04:18:38 PM
Our lack of mobility at midfield is bound to cost us at some point. Is Kelly from Carbury (last year's minor captain) on the scene at all?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on June 28, 2018, 04:36:59 PM
Paul Rouse is staying on as Offaly manager just to annoy Dinny.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/paul-rouse-set-to-stay-on-as-offaly-manager-after-promising-start-on-faithful-sideline-37059007.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/paul-rouse-set-to-stay-on-as-offaly-manager-after-promising-start-on-faithful-sideline-37059007.html)
He’s not getting paid to be fair. He doesn’t want anything.

I'd have thought Dinny'd be delighted. He'll be too busy sorting out rows in Offaly to be starting them on Newstalk.

Great news, fecking clown. In charge of a football team and he doesn't rate Michael Donnellan and celebrating beating Antrim as if they won an All-Ireland. No wonder he's a sports historian, he lives in the past.

How will Friday night go LC? Confident? They were a decent side 2 years ago, the semi-final that year against Laois didn't reflect their ability.
I’m hoping of a win. They seem to have a good, organised setup anyway. I’d say that they’ve improved immensely since minor, mind you, they’re missing Bill Carroll, younger brother of senior player Eoin, through a cruciate methinks. Also missing Micheál Mooney, a big, ball winning midfielder, due to either non commitment, or perhaps injury. Erin Rovers duo Nathan Poland and Conor Lynam were either dropped, or dropped out themselves, as I know that they were there at the start of the year.

Back to who are there, I’ll edit later as I don’t currently have the time.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 28, 2018, 05:06:00 PM
Our lack of mobility at midfield is bound to cost us at some point. Is Kelly from Carbury (last year's minor captain) on the scene at all?

Doesn't seem to be, watched Carbury against Towers a while back, don't recall him playing. Wonder is he injured. Masterson was very good against Carlow, Marnell was taken off. Jack Robinson would be a great addition if he was available.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 28, 2018, 07:54:50 PM
Our lack of mobility at midfield is bound to cost us at some point. Is Kelly from Carbury (last year's minor captain) on the scene at all?

When Shane O'Sullivan comes on it changes that. He is almost Dan Flynn like in his athleticism and can play too. Easier to take advantage of that against tired defences though. He was u17 last year along with DJ Earley who reminds me a bit of a young Andrew McLoughlin with the added ability of hitting 50 metre frees with ease.

A couple of the Offaly lads played school football in Rathangan alongside Jimmy Hyland when they won the C All Ireland a couple of years back. Shane O'Brien definitely and Stefan Geoghegan possibly.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on June 29, 2018, 02:06:23 PM
Paul Rouse is staying on as Offaly manager just to annoy Dinny.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/paul-rouse-set-to-stay-on-as-offaly-manager-after-promising-start-on-faithful-sideline-37059007.html (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/paul-rouse-set-to-stay-on-as-offaly-manager-after-promising-start-on-faithful-sideline-37059007.html)
He’s not getting paid to be fair. He doesn’t want anything.

I'd have thought Dinny'd be delighted. He'll be too busy sorting out rows in Offaly to be starting them on Newstalk.

Great news, fecking clown. In charge of a football team and he doesn't rate Michael Donnellan and celebrating beating Antrim as if they won an All-Ireland. No wonder he's a sports historian, he lives in the past.

How will Friday night go LC? Confident? They were a decent side 2 years ago, the semi-final that year against Laois didn't reflect their ability.
I’m hoping of a win. They seem to have a good, organised setup anyway. I’d say that they’ve improved immensely since minor, mind you, they’re missing Bill Carroll, younger brother of senior player Eoin, through a cruciate methinks. Also missing Micheál Mooney, a big, ball winning midfielder, due to either non commitment, or perhaps injury. Erin Rovers duo Nathan Poland and Conor Lynam were either dropped, or dropped out themselves, as I know that they were there at the start of the year.

Back to who are there, I’ll edit later as I don’t currently have the time.


The Team Selection is

1. Barry Rohan (Shannonbridge) good keeper. Would probably have been the starting keeper for the seniors, but was still u20. Plays in goals for his club, unlike Mulhall and Dunican. Saved a penalty in the last game and covered the angles well as the rebound was blasted over the bar. Appears to be small in height.

2. Ronan Hynes (Shannonbridge) Very good footballer. Calm and composed on the ball. Has two very good feet that deliver killer passes. I feel that he’s restricted as he is full of running down the wing. I’d imagine that he’ll pick up Hyland, Kildare’s key man.

3. Pa Robilliard (Tullamore ) (Captain) The skipper. Seems to be a steady player. Haven’t really seen too much of him as of yet.

4. Aidan Bracken (Ballycommon) Young for this age group. Would still be minor had it stayed at u18. Very good the last day v Westmeath. From what I’ve seen, a tight marker and a good bit of stuff.

5. Jack Quinn (Ballycumber) Athletic young buck. Up and down the field easily enough. Nice kick passer of the ball.

6. Stefan Geoghegan (Bracknagh) A rock of a young man. I believe that this lad has serious potential. Physically strong, has a good delivery. Good runner also. Well able to cover ground.

7. Jack O’Brien (Durrow) Up and down. Decent kick passer. Similar to Quinn.

8. Kyle Higgins (Ferbane) The more athletic of the two midfielders. Decent in the air.

9. Sean Ibbotson (Ferbane) Good fielder of a ball. Lacks pace, and a bit of game intelligence. Good fielder though!

10. Kevin McDermott (Durrow) Running and pace. Pops up with a sore or two as well which is nice. Good hurler as well.

11. Conor Dunne (Ballycommon) Rugby may be his first game, but he transfers the skills of handling and hard running seamlessly into our vastly superior sport.

12. Dan Wyer (Durrow) Appears to be a bit light. Covers a lot of ground and pops up with a score or two.

13. Cian Johnson (Ferbane) Good player. Was involved with the seniors. Left foot, left foot, left foot. A very good one he has!

14. Cian Farrell (Edenderry) Free taker from right and central areas. Can be hot and cold. Good player.

15. Shane O’Brien (Clonbullogue). Free taker from the left. Can be hot and cold also. Is a lanky lad.

Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 29, 2018, 02:26:03 PM
Thanks LC, nice post. Under pressure to make this as I am flying to France in the morning and have things to do.

Will be tight, just not sure of this Kildare team, they strike me as a team than think they are perhaps better than they are, might be harsh but I wouldn't back them to win a tight game.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 29, 2018, 02:26:26 PM
'Pa Robilliard'.
Best name ever.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 29, 2018, 02:30:38 PM
'Pa Robilliard'.
Best name ever.
No McKenzie-Smith.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on June 29, 2018, 03:21:18 PM
Thanks LC, nice post. Under pressure to make this as I am flying to France in the morning and have things to do.

Will be tight, just not sure of this Kildare team, they strike me as a team than think they are perhaps better than they are, might be harsh but I wouldn't back them to win a tight game.
Sure didn’t that Hyland lad shoot the lights out?
He seems to be a talented chap.
Now the subs.
16. Jack Cullinane (Ferbane) Taller than Rohan. Not as good a shot-stopper, or on kickouts. Rohan has the ability to kick frees also, which I’ve never seen Cullinane do.

17. Michael Wren (Ferbane) Sticky corner back. Solid option.

18. David Nally (Ferbane) Baller. Two footed. Lacks pace unfortunately, and doesn’t come across as the fittest. Still would cover a nice bit of ground all the same.

19. Brion Carroll (Cappincur) Younger brother of Eoin. The only Carroll brother that isn’t currently ruled out due to a cruciate. There are 4 brothers. Bill his older brother is currently out with the dreaded injury. To be honest, I don’t know much on him, so I gave some information instead.

20. Andrew Delaney (Shamrocks) Came on in the last two games. Looked a big man. Suitable for around the middle of the park to break things up.

21. Ed Bennett (Clonbullogue) Started the first day v Carlow. Missed the Louth game due to the Leaving Cert. I’d prefer Geoghegan meself. Looks a bit light.

22. Robin Galbraith (Bracknagh) Was brought on the last day in the half forward line. I feel that he’s be more dangerous inside. Good player. Instrumental in Bracknagh winning the intermediate title in 2016.

23. Jack Darcy (Shannonbridge) Left footed. Good player. Kicked 0-8 in the Offaly u20 final.
Good player. Seems to have developed physically since last year, where he looked really light in action for his club. Came off the bench the last day and scored a goal. Kicked 0-02 with limited ball v Louth.

24. Séamus O’Brien (Clara) Came on the last day. Seems lively. Half back/forward.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on June 29, 2018, 03:22:59 PM
Interestingly enough, there are more from intermediate clubs such as Shannonbridge and Clonbullogue than there are from Tullamore, Edenderry, Clara, with no representatives from Rhode.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: AZOffaly on June 29, 2018, 03:25:12 PM
Interestingly enough, there are more from intermediate clubs such as Shannonbridge and Clonbullogue than there are from Tullamore, Edenderry, Clara, with no representatives from Rhode.

Good to see the Ferbane lads coming through again. It's been too long.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 29, 2018, 03:36:34 PM
Thanks LC, nice post. Under pressure to make this as I am flying to France in the morning and have things to do.

Will be tight, just not sure of this Kildare team, they strike me as a team than think they are perhaps better than they are, might be harsh but I wouldn't back them to win a tight game.
Sure didn’t that Hyland lad shoot the lights out?
He seems to be a talented chap.
Now the subs.
16. Jack Cullinane (Ferbane) Taller than Rohan. Not as good a shot-stopper, or on kickouts. Rohan has the ability to kick frees also, which I’ve never seen Cullinane do.

17. Michael Wren (Ferbane) Sticky corner back. Solid option.

18. David Nally (Ferbane) Baller. Two footed. Lacks pace unfortunately, and doesn’t come across as the fittest. Still would cover a nice bit of ground all the same.

19. Brion Carroll (Cappincur) Younger brother of Eoin. The only Carroll brother that isn’t currently ruled out due to a cruciate. There are 4 brothers. Bill his older brother is currently out with the dreaded injury. To be honest, I don’t know much on him, so I gave some information instead.

20. Andrew Delaney (Shamrocks) Came on in the last two games. Looked a big man. Suitable for around the middle of the park to break things up.

21. Ed Bennett (Clonbullogue) Started the first day v Carlow. Missed the Louth game due to the Leaving Cert. I’d prefer Geoghegan meself. Looks a bit light.

22. Robin Galbraith (Bracknagh) Was brought on the last day in the half forward line. I feel that he’s be more dangerous inside. Good player. Instrumental in Bracknagh winning the intermediate title in 2016.

23. Jack Darcy (Shannonbridge) Left footed. Good player. Kicked 0-8 in the Offaly u20 final.
Good player. Seems to have developed physically since last year, where he looked really light in action for his club. Came off the bench the last day and scored a goal. Kicked 0-02 with limited ball v Louth.

24. Séamus O’Brien (Clara) Came on the last day. Seems lively. Half back/forward.

Jimmy Hyland would be close to starting Saturday if he was available but he's being allowed play 20s, right decision as he's only recovering from a cruciate. The Clonbullogue and Bracknagh lads would know Jimmy well as they played together when Rathangan won the AI Schools C' a couple of years ago. Brian McLoughlin will Kildare's key man, I would be a big fan and think he has a big future, delighted he's fit to start.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on June 29, 2018, 04:13:22 PM
Interestingly enough, there are more from intermediate clubs such as Shannonbridge and Clonbullogue than there are from Tullamore, Edenderry, Clara, with no representatives from Rhode.

Good to see the Ferbane lads coming through again. It's been too long.
If you’re from Ferbane  ???

I’d actually rate Nally as the best footballer of the lot of yer lads. Lacks that bit of pace. Technically very good. Johnson obviously an outrageous talent.

Don’t worry, Rhode are coming…eventually!
They’re u13 team, I think are slaughtering everyone, both in and outside the county. Mind you, they’ll have a couple of Croghan lads, perhaps the odd Clonmore native.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on June 29, 2018, 09:57:11 PM
Kildare 3-14 Offaly 2-5

Game was effectively over as a contest after ten minutes with Kildare 2-5 to 0-0 ahead. McLoughlin was in sparkling form although only he will know what was going through his head for the black card. I was also impressed by Nash on the forty tonight.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Rossfan on June 29, 2018, 10:00:54 PM
Same again please in the Senior game😊
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 29, 2018, 10:06:15 PM
Kildare won by 3-14 2-05.
A solid enough performance based on a very quick start as it was 2-05 to 0-00 after 7 minutes. Offaly were not prepared for Kildare's high press and were not able to cope with Nash at centre forward and McLoughlin at full. Kildare let them back into it as the half wore on and 2 goals brought Offaly back into it before half time. O'Neill is still not a convincing shot stopper. Ht 2-07 2-01.
In the second half Kildare started brightly again knocking over some early points before a flowing counter attacking move resulted in a McLoughlin goal which finished the game off, after that it got scrappy enough.

Offaly are probably not as bad as the result suggests but they failed to get going today and Cian Johnston was well marshalled by Mark Barrett who is almost turning into a carbon copy of Mark Dempsey who was also excellent. Masterson covers some ground for a big man.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: LooseCannon on June 30, 2018, 02:29:13 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-c0mmi_e69o
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 30, 2018, 11:05:41 AM
Big game this evening in Navan.
As nice as it is to beat the Dubs at minor level, a win this evening would be massive for us.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on June 30, 2018, 08:13:02 PM
Meath 1-05
Dublin 1-08

Half time. Started poorly. We were down 1-06 to 0-02 after 15 minutes but we’re slowly getting back into it.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on June 30, 2018, 09:20:41 PM
Meath 2-10
Dublin 4-16
 :(
If you take a form-line through us Dublin have to be massive favourites for the Kildare game.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: The Hill is Blue on June 30, 2018, 09:23:53 PM
Good win in the end for the Dubs

Dublin 4-16
Meath 2-10
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on July 01, 2018, 12:06:38 AM
Disappointing in the end to have lost by so much. I thought we’d be much closer. Shows how much we still need to do to get back to being competitive. That said there are still some good lads among this group that will make a big contribution to the seniors in a few years.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 02, 2018, 09:09:13 PM
Meath making 12 changes for their game against Wicklow in the minor championship. Hopefully Wicklow can do the business against a fresh Meath team who will be doing their utmost to maintain the integrity of the competition.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on July 02, 2018, 10:19:52 PM
We picked up a few injuries the last day...
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 02, 2018, 11:08:47 PM
Just seen that the semi finals are scheduled for Saturday, Kildare have zero incentive to put out a strong team against Longford so even if it might be harsh on Laois (who aren't up to much anyway). If Kildare lose by 14 points however it will be a Kildare Meath semi final.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on July 03, 2018, 12:48:45 PM
Jeez, that's a short turnaround. Would be silly of Kildare and Meath not to give other lads a chance to stake their claims in the circumstances.

All the pressure still on the Wicklow lads. If they win they'll fully deserve their semi final place.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 03, 2018, 06:01:34 PM
According to Gaa.ie Kildare have already won U20 Leinster


Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on July 03, 2018, 06:11:46 PM
Sickening Kildare arrogance once again.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 03, 2018, 08:44:28 PM
Wicklow a point up with 10 minutes left, going to be some cliffhanger.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 03, 2018, 08:48:52 PM
Meath will have a very handy run out against Laois in one semi final anyway as Kildare are 8 points up against Longford.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 03, 2018, 08:50:08 PM
Level in the Wicklow game now, if it stays like this it will need Louth to stay ahead of Offaly to keep the Dubs out.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 03, 2018, 08:53:44 PM
Dublin beat Westmeath by 25 points, hopefully they have found their form too late.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on July 03, 2018, 08:55:54 PM
Wicklow up by 2 points in injury time!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 03, 2018, 08:56:29 PM
Great stuff.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on July 03, 2018, 08:58:34 PM
Game over.
There'll be no hosepipe ban in the Garden County this week!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 03, 2018, 08:58:44 PM
Wicklow will be huge test for Kildare but seeing that Dublin result is a relief. Meath will rather play the winners of Kildare and Wicklow instead of playing an improving resurgent Dublin team in the final.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 03, 2018, 11:57:29 PM
Quote
Kildaregaa365
‏ @kildaregaa365
13m13 minutes ago

Think I’m right in saying only two teams can still win the 4 All Ireland’s on offer in the men’s game: @Kerry_Official and @KildareGAA. The original great rivals of Gaelic football (yes kids). They meet in the Junior semi final on Saturday. #eliminator
https://twitter.com/kildaregaa365/status/1014278444480368641
Worth mentioning
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on July 04, 2018, 08:23:32 AM
Quote
Kildaregaa365
‏ @kildaregaa365
13m13 minutes ago

Think I’m right in saying only two teams can still win the 4 All Ireland’s on offer in the men’s game: @Kerry_Official and @KildareGAA. The original great rivals of Gaelic football (yes kids). They meet in the Junior semi final on Saturday. #eliminator
https://twitter.com/kildaregaa365/status/1014278444480368641
Worth mentioning
Well done Kildare, hopefully you'll being at least one trophy home.

Good job it's not Dublin rather than Kildare as then you wouldn't have to mention it, it'd be all over social media already, in particular certain Kildare social mediaites would have been all over it!

Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Maroon Manc on July 05, 2018, 10:31:26 AM
I see Meath were beat by Wicklow last night which knocked the Dublin minors out.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on July 05, 2018, 11:22:41 AM
Wicklow are very strong this year.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on July 05, 2018, 12:01:02 PM
Wicklow are very strong this year.
Stronger than Dublin anyway!

Time to fire all those GPOs and find a new batch. Banty, John Maughan and Tommy Tom are on the shortlist!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 06, 2018, 07:34:22 PM
Small attendance at this Leinster U20 final.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on July 06, 2018, 08:28:14 PM
Kildare getting some lovely scores.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on July 06, 2018, 08:55:21 PM
Great win for Kildare.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on July 06, 2018, 09:36:15 PM
Well done to Kildare backed up their minor Leinster title won two years ago with U20 provincial title tonight and both finals won by a bit to spare also.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Gael85 on July 06, 2018, 10:04:56 PM
 Well done Kildare. Completely dominated midfield. Aaron Masterson was very good. Centre forward was good before went off. Is McLoughlin lad a son of Paul(Wexford manager)? Majority of that Dublin eligible again next year and will hopefully learn from today.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 06, 2018, 10:08:06 PM
Small attendance at this Leinster U20 final.

I reckon the only Dublin supporters there were family members and that Meath lad who took Mick McDonaghs place behind the goal.
Anyway a terrific win by a great bunch who didn't panic when it was clear they were up against 16 men. Defensively they completely nullified Doran and Madden and I don't think Dublin had a plan b after that.
I think we are out again next weekend which is a bit mad as they have been playing every week for 5 weeks now and it is 7 games in 8 weeks I think. The run of matches has been beneficial in getting the team organised though.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Gael85 on July 06, 2018, 10:10:47 PM
Small attendance at this Leinster U20 final.

I reckon the only Dublin supporters there were family members and that Meath lad who took Mick McDonaghs place behind the goal.
Anyway a terrific win by a great bunch who didn't panic when it was clear they were up against 16 men. Defensively they completely nullified Doran and Madden and I don't think Dublin had a plan b after that.
I think we are out again next weekend which is a bit mad as they have been playing every week for 5 weeks now and it is 7 games in 8 weeks I think. The run of matches has been beneficial in getting the team organised though.

Ye won the game on merit. Don't start that crap. Yes ye should got frees in first half but he same for both teams in second half.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on July 06, 2018, 10:15:27 PM
#KildareRising
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on July 06, 2018, 10:29:19 PM
I did not see that performance coming. The defending was magnificent. Our tackling broke the Dublin hearts. Masterson and Marnell might lack pace but make up for it with their work rate. They dominated the kickout battle. Jimmy Hyland has the ability to tear defences apart but I doubt he will get as much space the next day.

Great to see small clubs like Ardclough and Ballyteague producing quality Kildare footballers.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on July 06, 2018, 10:31:18 PM
Well done Kildare. Completely dominated midfield. Aaron Masterson was very good. Centre forward was good before went off. Is McLoughlin lad a son of Paul(Wexford manager)? Majority of that Dublin eligible again next year and will hopefully learn from today.

No but same club.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on July 06, 2018, 10:41:34 PM
Wow, if Kuwabatake Sanjuro is that bitter when they win, I wouldnt like to see if they'd lost!

Well done Kildare. By far the better team. I honestly was surprised we got to the final from what I heard about this team, but there seemed to be far more potential senior intercounty stars in white this evening. At least it'll stop the nonsense about how we "look after" 70 or 80 lads at this age group  ::)

Interesting to get a blast in person (even if only on TV) of a reminder of what it's like to lose to Kildare. I'm certainly not looking forward to the day they bring that to senior against us! Long may I wait...

But genuinely best of luck to Kildare in the All Ireland series. Will be a very interesting 3 games, and I hope yis bring home the cup, some smashing players.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 06, 2018, 11:11:55 PM
No bitterness, just pointing out how bad Anthony Nolan was. Anyway it galvanised the players if anything.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: mup on July 06, 2018, 11:23:44 PM
I too thought the ref was shocking in the first half. Really poor.

He did improve after half time.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on July 06, 2018, 11:24:27 PM
No bitterness, just pointing out how bad Anthony Nolan was. Anyway it galvanised the players if anything.
The fact that you believe the ref was biased towards Dublin says it all!
Thank the lord for the biased, it really galvanised kildare  ;D

Anyway, enjoy, and I think you should give your lads and management a bit more credit than saying it required the ref to galvanise them!
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 07, 2018, 12:26:46 AM
The quadruple is still on.

Massive win that didn't seem likely when 8 points down to Laois with 20 mins to go in the 2nd group game. In fact their obituary was being written and not just for them but whole of Kildare GAA as that Laois game was 3 days after the senior Carlow debacle.

Instead they recovered and won by a point, getting better with each game and that recovery has been a catalyst for all Kildare GAA teams. Christy Ring, Leinster Junior & u20 champs,  and possible Leinster minor finalists, senior AI quarter finalists and Junior AI finalists after tomorrow. An unbelievable 5 weeks.

Gives hope but it's the hope that kills you in the end.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 07, 2018, 12:45:56 AM
Those 4 goals conceded against Laois were tha making of the team. DJ Earley and MarK Barrett have been phenomenally good since they came in. Both are underage next year while Earley along with Shane O'Sullivan have 2 years left at this grade. Aaron O'Neill is not 19 until December too.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on July 07, 2018, 07:12:35 AM
The no.11 scored one of the points of the year in any grade in the second half.

The keeper looked top class. Shot stopping good, made high balls look extremely easy and a very big and accurate kick out. Maybe overdid his forays up the field a tad, but he looks like he'll be putting pressure on for the no1 jersey in the senior team very quickly.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Gael85 on July 07, 2018, 07:23:28 AM
No bitterness, just pointing out how bad Anthony Nolan was. Anyway it galvanised the players if anything.
The fact that you believe the ref was biased towards Dublin says it all!
Thank the lord for the biased, it really galvanised kildare  ;D

Anyway, enjoy, and I think you should give your lads and management a bit more credit than saying it required the ref to galvanise them!

Some lads will never be satisfied. Winning and coming on here after making history winning first u20 Leinster championship to have moan about referee. They're probably the crowd that verbally abused Anthony Nolan after game. Kildare scored 1-6 from frees Dublin only scored 0-1.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: ballinaman on July 07, 2018, 07:28:54 AM
How many points did Kerry beat Kildare in 2016 by ? 8 days to prepare for a semi final is tough on Kildare .
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Gael85 on July 07, 2018, 07:34:54 AM
How many points did Kerry beat Kildare in 2016 by ? 8 days to prepare for a semi final is tough on Kildare .

2-26 to 0-10.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 07, 2018, 10:18:13 AM
No bitterness, just pointing out how bad Anthony Nolan was. Anyway it galvanised the players if anything.
The fact that you believe the ref was biased towards Dublin says it all!
Thank the lord for the biased, it really galvanised kildare  ;D

Anyway, enjoy, and I think you should give your lads and management a bit more credit than saying it required the ref to galvanise them!

Some lads will never be satisfied. Winning and coming on here after making history winning first u20 Leinster championship to have moan about referee. They're probably the crowd that verbally abused Anthony Nolan after game. Kildare scored 1-6 from frees Dublin only scored 0-1.

Kildare got 6 frees in the whole game, Dublin 16. Scored 1-2 from those 6. Were you at the game because I doubt any supporter would take time out from celebrating a famous win to abuse a referee. However I did see that same claim on Reservoir Dubs in between some poster calling Kildare fans 'cu*ts'. Classy site, went in looking for honest reaction, more fool me.

Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 07, 2018, 10:20:10 AM
https://twitter.com/arantaobhline/status/1015404172672413697?s=19 (https://twitter.com/arantaobhline/status/1015404172672413697?s=19)

Stats here
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on July 07, 2018, 10:42:48 AM
Wasn't at our semi against Dublin, but given we beat Kildare in the group I wonder if we just had one of those days.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: manfromdelmonte on July 07, 2018, 11:07:18 AM
At least it'll stop the nonsense about how we "look after" 70 or 80 lads at this age group  ::)
Still doesn't hide the fact that Dublin have the U20 development squad running along with their county team

And it will continue to run through autumn
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Gael85 on July 07, 2018, 12:12:43 PM
No bitterness, just pointing out how bad Anthony Nolan was. Anyway it galvanised the players if anything.
The fact that you believe the ref was biased towards Dublin says it all!
Thank the lord for the biased, it really galvanised kildare  ;D

Anyway, enjoy, and I think you should give your lads and management a bit more credit than saying it required the ref to galvanise them!

Some lads will never be satisfied. Winning and coming on here after making history winning first u20 Leinster championship to have moan about referee. They're probably the crowd that verbally abused Anthony Nolan after game. Kildare scored 1-6 from frees Dublin only scored 0-1.

Kildare got 6 frees in the whole game, Dublin 16. Scored 1-2 from those 6. Were you at the game because I doubt any supporter would take time out from celebrating a famous win to abuse a referee. However I did see that same claim on Reservoir Dubs in between some poster calling Kildare fans 'cu*ts'. Classy site, went in looking for honest reaction, more fool me.

Well  I never posted that about kildare supporters. You  should be celebrating kildare victory rather searching opposition fans forum. I sure if there is a kildare gaa forum it will have it own bias view on their county too. Look ye were deserving  winners. I thought referee could have given ye more frees in first half but he didn't make any difference. When ye stopped kicking ball into FF line and played running game that won it.The 5/6 points  before half time for kildare was the game changer and dublin never recovered.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on July 07, 2018, 01:09:35 PM
Minor semi final

Half time

Meath 3-09
Laois 0-02

Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on July 07, 2018, 01:34:15 PM
Full time

5-18
0-08
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on July 07, 2018, 02:56:24 PM

Kildare got 6 frees in the whole game, Dublin 16. Scored 1-2 from those 6. Were you at the game because I doubt any supporter would take time out from celebrating a famous win to abuse a referee. However I did see that same claim on Reservoir Dubs in between some poster calling Kildare fans 'cu*ts'. Classy site, went in looking for honest reaction, more fool me.

Is that a tad disingenious Dinny?

You went to Res Dubs "looking for honest reaction" and picked out some knob saying "c***" rather than a post by what seems a reasonable poster who was actually at the game?

Just back from the game. It was what it was, the sum total of Kildare’s football ability was greater then ours, so they won. We can’t win it every year.

Our kickout strategy, both for and against was a bit insane though. We left one of their guys free on the half way line for a lot of their kick outs, it was a bit insane to see. For our kick outs, I don’t really know what to say, the big high floaty kickout went out about 10 years ago, kicking to the opposition was never really in, so there wasn’t really a lot going for them. They did change it up a bit in the second half though and it was better. If we had sorted out kickouts, it would have been closer.

But the big takeaway for me from the game is that the GAA going public are going insane! It can’t just be Kildare fans (there were shag all Dublin fans there to make a comparison), but the roaring and abuse at the ref was mental. A guy beside me, with spittle coming out of his mouth, stood and demanded a free because three Dublin guys were tackling a Kildare player, and that’s a ‘third man tackle’! And that is typical, every time a Dublin guy went on any solo run, everyone roared ‘steps’ as if he wasn’t allowed take one step.

It was extreme and very uncomfortable and unejoyable. Who do these people think they are that they can ruin the evening of people around them because they want to. They wound themselves up into such a collective frenzy that 3 oul’ lads after the game went up to the ref and called him everything under the sun- they had just won by 9 points for god sake.

It’s pure selfishness and nothing else, and for some reason U20 / U21 is often the worst for it. I think that is probably the last football game at that grade I go to.


The bold bit is me highlighting the most important part of that post

PS the same poster said a number of times afterwards the reaction of the fans is something he's seeing more and more across all counties, including Dublin, and it's not Kildare alone by any means
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on July 07, 2018, 06:58:27 PM
Interesting that two U20s called up to the Kildare bench. Would rule them out of the semi if they make an appearance.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Zulu on July 07, 2018, 07:55:57 PM
They won't be called on now anyway. Good to see Kildare on the up.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on July 07, 2018, 10:33:40 PM
Full time

5-18
0-08

Wicklow and Kildare tomorrow will be interesting.
Kildare hammered Laois in the group stage as well.
Come on Wicklow, you owe us... for nothing in particular.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 08, 2018, 07:09:36 AM

Kildare got 6 frees in the whole game, Dublin 16. Scored 1-2 from those 6. Were you at the game because I doubt any supporter would take time out from celebrating a famous win to abuse a referee. However I did see that same claim on Reservoir Dubs in between some poster calling Kildare fans 'cu*ts'. Classy site, went in looking for honest reaction, more fool me.

Is that a tad disingenious Dinny?

You went to Res Dubs "looking for honest reaction" and picked out some knob saying "c***" rather than a post by what seems a reasonable poster who was actually at the game?

Just back from the game. It was what it was, the sum total of Kildare’s football ability was greater then ours, so they won. We can’t win it every year.

Our kickout strategy, both for and against was a bit insane though. We left one of their guys free on the half way line for a lot of their kick outs, it was a bit insane to see. For our kick outs, I don’t really know what to say, the big high floaty kickout went out about 10 years ago, kicking to the opposition was never really in, so there wasn’t really a lot going for them. They did change it up a bit in the second half though and it was better. If we had sorted out kickouts, it would have been closer.

But the big takeaway for me from the game is that the GAA going public are going insane! It can’t just be Kildare fans (there were shag all Dublin fans there to make a comparison), but the roaring and abuse at the ref was mental. A guy beside me, with spittle coming out of his mouth, stood and demanded a free because three Dublin guys were tackling a Kildare player, and that’s a ‘third man tackle’! And that is typical, every time a Dublin guy went on any solo run, everyone roared ‘steps’ as if he wasn’t allowed take one step.

It was extreme and very uncomfortable and unejoyable. Who do these people think they are that they can ruin the evening of people around them because they want to. They wound themselves up into such a collective frenzy that 3 oul’ lads after the game went up to the ref and called him everything under the sun- they had just won by 9 points for god sake.

It’s pure selfishness and nothing else, and for some reason U20 / U21 is often the worst for it. I think that is probably the last football game at that grade I go to.


The bold bit is me highlighting the most important part of that post

PS the same poster said a number of times afterwards the reaction of the fans is something he's seeing more and more across all counties, including Dublin, and it's not Kildare alone by any means

Hardly, Reservoir Dogs Under age threads are normally informative, for example it's how I learned that most of Dublin's team are under age again next year. That tends to give perspective. If that poster wants to high light referee abuse, that's fine it should be, however for other poster's to weigh in and call Kildare supporters c*unts reflects badly on that forum.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on July 08, 2018, 08:43:28 AM
At least it'll stop the nonsense about how we "look after" 70 or 80 lads at this age group  ::)
Still doesn't hide the fact that Dublin have the U20 development squad running along with their county team

And it will continue to run through autumn
So Dublin have probably 35 men on their U20 panel. Any year you might get between 2 and 6 who'll progress to the senior panel. They've no doubt already identifed the 10 or 12 who have the best chance, and the other 20 odd have realistically very little chance of making the senior panel.

But, hey, let's have another 20 or 30 lads in a ghost U20 panel, who have little chance of playing for the Dubs U20, and therefore barely a hope in hell of playing for the Dubs. But still we'll take these lads away from their clubs for the craic!

Seeing as you know so much of this ghost panel, maybe you can give us 5 or 6 names? Did the same lad who told you this also tell you that none of the Dubs work. All this stuff about them being teachers, accountants, running their own business, etc is all subterfuge  8)
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on July 08, 2018, 08:48:59 AM

Kildare got 6 frees in the whole game, Dublin 16. Scored 1-2 from those 6. Were you at the game because I doubt any supporter would take time out from celebrating a famous win to abuse a referee. However I did see that same claim on Reservoir Dubs in between some poster calling Kildare fans 'cu*ts'. Classy site, went in looking for honest reaction, more fool me.

Is that a tad disingenious Dinny?

You went to Res Dubs "looking for honest reaction" and picked out some knob saying "c***" rather than a post by what seems a reasonable poster who was actually at the game?

Just back from the game. It was what it was, the sum total of Kildare’s football ability was greater then ours, so they won. We can’t win it every year.

Our kickout strategy, both for and against was a bit insane though. We left one of their guys free on the half way line for a lot of their kick outs, it was a bit insane to see. For our kick outs, I don’t really know what to say, the big high floaty kickout went out about 10 years ago, kicking to the opposition was never really in, so there wasn’t really a lot going for them. They did change it up a bit in the second half though and it was better. If we had sorted out kickouts, it would have been closer.

But the big takeaway for me from the game is that the GAA going public are going insane! It can’t just be Kildare fans (there were shag all Dublin fans there to make a comparison), but the roaring and abuse at the ref was mental. A guy beside me, with spittle coming out of his mouth, stood and demanded a free because three Dublin guys were tackling a Kildare player, and that’s a ‘third man tackle’! And that is typical, every time a Dublin guy went on any solo run, everyone roared ‘steps’ as if he wasn’t allowed take one step.

It was extreme and very uncomfortable and unejoyable. Who do these people think they are that they can ruin the evening of people around them because they want to. They wound themselves up into such a collective frenzy that 3 oul’ lads after the game went up to the ref and called him everything under the sun- they had just won by 9 points for god sake.

It’s pure selfishness and nothing else, and for some reason U20 / U21 is often the worst for it. I think that is probably the last football game at that grade I go to.


The bold bit is me highlighting the most important part of that post

PS the same poster said a number of times afterwards the reaction of the fans is something he's seeing more and more across all counties, including Dublin, and it's not Kildare alone by any means

Hardly, Reservoir Dogs Under age threads are normally informative, for example it's how I learned that most of Dublin's team are under age again next year. That tends to give perspective. If that poster wants to high light referee abuse, that's fine it should be, however for other poster's to weigh in and call Kildare supporters c*unts reflects badly on that forum.
Agreed.
Not sure if there's a Kildare forum, but I'd imagine if there was, there'd be a bit of Dub-bashing too! But that doesn't excuse it.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 08, 2018, 02:35:21 PM
Full time

5-18
0-08

Wicklow and Kildare tomorrow will be interesting.
Kildare hammered Laois in the group stage as well.
Come on Wicklow, you owe us... for nothing in particular.

Wicklow proving to be a long way ahead of Laois. 1-08 to 1-03 at half time for Kildare.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on July 08, 2018, 02:37:54 PM
I'd take a narrow victory to win a semi-final every day of the week.
Does a team no good going into a final on the back of a handy win.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on July 08, 2018, 04:07:04 PM
FT
Kildare 3-13
Wicklow 3-13
After extra time!  :o
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 08, 2018, 04:11:02 PM
I'm not at it so don't know if it is going to free kicks or a replay.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 08, 2018, 04:13:05 PM
Fair play to Wicklow though and it sounds like they brought decent support.
https://twitter.com/wicklowgaa/status/1015975322163040257
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on July 08, 2018, 04:20:07 PM
I'm not at it so don't know if it is going to free kicks or a replay.

Replay.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 08, 2018, 04:20:50 PM
A fairer way to go.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 08, 2018, 04:59:08 PM
 Replay midweek, final next weekend.

3 games plus extra time in 12 days for both Kildare & Wicklow.

What's the panic. The GAA have no concept of player welfare.

That game should bring Kildare on loads, Aughrim will be hard though , Wicklow confident & resilient.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 08, 2018, 05:10:04 PM
Replay midweek, final next weekend.

3 games plus extra time in 12 days for both Kildare & Wicklow.

What's the panic. The GAA have no concept of player welfare.

That game should bring Kildare on loads, Aughrim will be hard though , Wicklow confident & resilient.

A couple of the Kildare lads have been hurling with the minors too so there has been a crazy amount played in the last 5 or 6 weeks.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Blowitupref on July 08, 2018, 05:23:26 PM
Replay midweek, final next weekend.

3 games plus extra time in 12 days for both Kildare & Wicklow.

What's the panic. The GAA have no concept of player welfare.

That game should bring Kildare on loads, Aughrim will be hard though , Wicklow confident & resilient.

Yes and we hear the nonsense they have welfare in mind first with these new U20 and U17 competitions. Was little between Wicklow kildare at U16 level in the FR Manning cup either last year why are so many surprised with how well Wicklow are doing now at U17 level?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 08, 2018, 05:25:42 PM
Replay midweek, final next weekend.

3 games plus extra time in 12 days for both Kildare & Wicklow.

What's the panic. The GAA have no concept of player welfare.

That game should bring Kildare on loads, Aughrim will be hard though , Wicklow confident & resilient.

Yes and we hear the nonsense they have welfare in mind first with these new U20 and U17 competitions. Was little between Wicklow kildare at U16 level in the FR Manning cup either last year why are so many surprised with how well Wicklow are doing now at U17 level?

I don't think many are surprised, their win against Dublin was a headline grabber though.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 08, 2018, 08:02:19 PM
No surprise 

Final put back a week. Well done, common sense prevails.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 08, 2018, 08:07:47 PM
Good stuff, with the weather holding up then Aughrim will be a lovely spot for the replay.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on July 08, 2018, 08:20:03 PM
No surprise 

Final put back a week. Well done, common sense prevails.

I object.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on July 08, 2018, 09:15:12 PM
No surprise 

Final put back a week. Well done, common sense prevails.
Yeah, fair play all round. Must have been a great game between Wicklow and Kildare, and would be very unfair to make them play midweek and weekend again.
Given the two semi results, you were bang on about the group disparity. Probably the only team in the other group that Laois might have beaten was Westmeath.

All county allegiances aside, it is great to see a Div4 side like Wicklow produce a minor team as good as any other in Leinster. It would have been great to see them make the All Ireland series (presumably the format is still the same and provincial finalists all make the All Ireland quarters), but usually the favourites prevail in replays. Still great year for them nonetheless.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 13, 2018, 08:27:43 PM
Kildare and Wicklow seems to be a nailbiter again, Kildare ahead 2-10 to 1-10 in the last 10 mins. Huge crowd in Aughrim apparently which is good to see.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 13, 2018, 08:43:44 PM
Kildare scrape through 2-12 to 1-13. Wicklow GAA twitter handler wasn't happy with the referee. Meath will be big favourites for the final. The winners and losers meet their Ulster counterparts in the AIQF.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on July 13, 2018, 09:47:58 PM
Kildare bench made the difference in the end. Great save from the keeper to stop Wicklow from leveling it inside the last ten minutes.

Final next Saturday in Tullamore.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 13, 2018, 10:05:26 PM
Heart goes out to Wicklow, would have been a great lift for Wicklow, will be interesting to see how they develop over the next 3 years heading into u20s in 2021.

Guaranteed AI quarter final which is only good for their development and our 5th in 6 years. None of those teams made a final though.

Rumour has it Jinxy, Hardy and TheJuice are already planning the victory parade route. Meath heavy favourites.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 13, 2018, 10:24:35 PM
Derry awaits the winners Monaghan the losers. Monaghan won the Ulster tonight 1-9 to 0-9. If underage is different up there.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 14, 2018, 01:38:03 PM
  Check out @BillHillWicklow’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/BillHillWicklow/status/1018086079696601088?s=09   (http://Check out @BillHillWicklow’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/BillHillWicklow/status/1018086079696601088?s=09)

Some crowd for a minor game.

They should build a purpose built 25k stadium in Bray. Dublin could use it for league games.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: The Insider on July 14, 2018, 03:44:14 PM
Longford beat Dublin 1-13 to 0-11, to win the Leinster minor shield .
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 21, 2018, 02:39:51 PM
Meath up by 8 at half time and deservedly so and that's even allowing for Kildare hitting the post missing a free in front on the posts. Kildare very flat and look poorly prepared. Meath inside line first to every ball and McBride is lording midfield. Kildare respond by taking off the corner forward and the half forward. Kildare have a deceptive wind in the second half. Meath should close this out comfortable enough. Big side.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 21, 2018, 03:14:12 PM
Big win for Meath McBride Costello McCormack and Mitchell the picks,  should have ran the bench earlier. Ball for Kildare twice made treble saves some shot stopper. Will take a very good side to beat Meath in the AI. Congrats.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Jinxy on July 21, 2018, 03:40:49 PM
Hard luck Dinny, hugely promising win and nice to beat Kildare at u-17 & u-20 in the same year!  ;)
Bringing the likes of McBride in particular through to senior level is the challenge now.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on July 21, 2018, 04:07:25 PM
Keeping the Aussies away from him will be a challenge.

Delighted with some underage silverware. Very promising team so hopefully they can take it a few more steps and land athe big one but nothing is ever a sure bet at this level.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: CJ2017 on September 19, 2018, 09:26:30 AM
I read this a while back regarding Kerry's Structure and Divisional team and amount of games been played,

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/paddy-heaney/kingdoms-unique-structure-keeps-them-well-ahead-of-all-pretenders-314760.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/paddy-heaney/kingdoms-unique-structure-keeps-them-well-ahead-of-all-pretenders-314760.html)

Now been trialled in Laois, interesting to see if it will have an impact

https://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/gaelic-games/336516/john-sugrue-outlines-plans-for-divisional-teams-to-make-up-new-football-trials-programme.html (https://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/gaelic-games/336516/john-sugrue-outlines-plans-for-divisional-teams-to-make-up-new-football-trials-programme.html)

Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championships
Post by: thejuice on June 02, 2019, 09:01:22 AM
We lost to Westmeath in a tough quarter final that went to extra time. We went ahead late on but couldn’t hold on to it. We just fell flat in extra time and registered only one score. Westmeath deserving winners but the general feeling is this team haven’t performed as well as they should this year.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on July 02, 2019, 10:17:18 PM
U20’s beat a fancied Offaly side 1-15 to 0-12.
Wexford beat Louth and I think Dublin beat Longford but I can’t see a result anywhere
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on July 02, 2019, 10:24:13 PM
Longford 0-07 Dublin 4-21
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 02, 2019, 10:27:17 PM
wins for Dublin, Laois, Wexford and Meath.

Dublin won the minors two years ago comfortably expect the same.

Kildare didn't enter this year.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on July 02, 2019, 10:28:16 PM
How come?

Couldn’t see the Laois result anywhere.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on July 02, 2019, 10:58:48 PM
How come?

Couldn’t see the Laois result anywhere.

Apologies to DH. But there doesn’t seem to be a lot like you.

Kildare 1-11 Laois 0-17
Kildare fans bitching and moaning about Dublin though.

mup, dry your eyes and stop embarrassing yourself.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on July 02, 2019, 11:04:59 PM
I read elsewhere they lost to Laois.

Semis

Laois vs Meath
Wexford vs Dublin
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Muck Savage on July 03, 2019, 12:21:46 AM
U20’s beat a fancied Offaly side 1-15 to 0-12.
Wexford beat Louth and I think Dublin beat Longford but I can’t see a result anywhere
Score was actually 1-12 to 12 pts
McBride scored a goal after 30sec and Offaly could never recover from it. Meath way more efficient up front but had about 12 lads back defending anytime got the ball. Offaly had the majority of the ball but hit some very bad wides, 4 scorable frees, hit the post twice and missed an open goal. Ref was shocking for both sides, seemed like he swallowed the whistle. Best of luck to Meath in the semi final, Offaly should be able to bring 4-5 into the senior team.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: thejuice on July 03, 2019, 12:46:56 AM
Yeah had 1-12 = 15 in my head when I typed that by accident.

Semi’s next week
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: mup on July 03, 2019, 07:53:40 AM
How come?

Couldn’t see the Laois result anywhere.

Apologies to DH. But there doesn’t seem to be a lot like you.

Kildare 1-11 Laois 0-17
Kildare fans bitching and moaning about Dublin though.

mup, dry your eyes and stop embarrassing yourself.

Yea like it's only the Kildare fans.  ::)

Take you head out of your rear end there like a good lad. You tend to see things a lot better when you do.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 06, 2019, 04:00:02 PM
It's looking like Kildare will win the Leinster U17 title. Leading 2-17 to 1-14 at half time in extra time.  If they win its a All Ireland quarter final v Galway and Dublin will play Mayo.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 06, 2019, 04:16:08 PM
Congrats Kildare. U18 Leinster titles won in  2013,2015,2016 and todays U17 title.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: kerryforsam19 on July 06, 2019, 04:21:07 PM
Congrats Kildare. U18 Leinster titles won in  2013,2015,2016 and todays U17 title.

Kildare need a proper senior manager as have completely under achieved. Cian O'Neill completely out of his depth. Hearing Jack O'Connor and Glen Ryan taking over next year.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 06, 2019, 04:32:47 PM
Congrats Kildare. U18 Leinster titles won in  2013,2015,2016 and todays U17 title.

Kildare rumour need a proper senior manager as have completely under achieved. Cian O'Neill completely out of his depth. Hearing Jack O'Connor and Glen Ryan taking over next year.

Would ever just f*ck off! No one is interested in your nonsense.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: kerryforsam19 on July 06, 2019, 04:35:04 PM
Congrats Kildare. U18 Leinster titles won in  2013,2015,2016 and todays U17 title.

Kildare rumour need a proper senior manager as have completely under achieved. Cian O'Neill completely out of his depth. Hearing Jack O'Connor and Glen Ryan taking over next year.

Would ever just f*ck off! No one is interested in your nonsense.

?? Are you ok Dennis?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 06, 2019, 04:39:46 PM
Congrats Kildare. U18 Leinster titles won in  2013,2015,2016 and todays U17 title.

Cracking game, didn't make it across unfortunately but fair play to TG4 for streaming it live. What a fantastic service that station provides.

Kildare were the better team for large periods, Dublin might have had more success if they went more direct but I thought our full back line were tenacious in the tackle and bottled up the Dublin attack pretty well.

4 minors in 7 years is nice and I am sure some Dub will point to funding and Dublin not winning but it's the resources that go into the next 4/5 years of development that really set Dublin apart from all. Look at how Kerry are struggling to transition their all conquering minors into AI Senior contenders.

Anyhow, our reward is a date with Galway I believe. Double header in Tullamore no doubt.

Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2018
Post by: Hound on July 06, 2019, 09:49:25 PM
Congrats Kildare. U18 Leinster titles won in  2013,2015,2016 and todays U17 title.

4 minors in 7 years is nice and I am sure some Dub will point to funding and Dublin not winning but it's the resources that go into the next 4/5 years of development that really set Dublin apart from all. Look at how Kerry are struggling to transition their all conquering minors into AI Senior contenders.

Exactly,  nothing to do with Games Development Funding. 

It’s the AFL1 and 2 experience in Dublin club football that turns the boys into men. Of course we monitor the lads at county level, but I doubt we do a whole lot different than Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone.

Takes a while to turn good minors into good seniors, and helps hugely if they’re just a cog in the wheel rather than being depended on.

No matter how good they are there are many players lost between minor and U20. Dublin can absorb those losses better than most due to numbers.

Didn’t get to see the game, but congrats Kildare. To win that convincingly in extra time should mean the team has a lot of fortitude. Added to wins in recent years means more and more lads won’t be afraid of the Dubs, certainly the Dubs at their own age
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: thejuice on July 08, 2019, 11:07:39 AM
Under 16 Gerry Reilly tournament. Our first game was last night which went well. Hope to retain the title again.

Meath 7-14 Westmeath 0-8
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 08, 2019, 11:19:04 AM
Under 16 Gerry Reilly tournament. Our first game was last night which went well. Hope to retain the title again.

Meath 7-14 Westmeath 0-8

2nd game, you beat Laois in a low scoring affair 4-18 to 3-12 in the 1st round.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: thejuice on July 08, 2019, 03:12:14 PM
First game after the last one.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 09, 2019, 09:09:45 PM
U20s results

Dublin 1 17 Wex 0 6
Laois 1 13 Meath 0 7

Interesting to see how Laois will go in the final, this group lost to Kildare 2 years ago by 5 points but reversed that this year and turn a 1 pt victory  two years ago into 9 tonight over Meath. That is quality progress, Dublin though turn boys into men better than anyone else.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: thejuice on July 10, 2019, 09:24:37 AM
Disappointing from our perspective considering how good some of these players were at U17. But I think they still have time at this grade to develop a bit more but perhaps we’re not coaching them to the same level as our competitors as we’ve struggled at this grade for too long.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: Maroon Manc on July 10, 2019, 09:49:44 AM
U20s results

Dublin 1 17 Wex 0 6
Laois 1 13 Meath 0 7

Interesting to see how Laois will go in the final, this group lost to Kildare 2 years ago by 5 points but reversed that this year and turn a 1 pt victory  two years ago into 9 tonight over Meath. That is quality progress, Dublin though turn boys into men better than anyone else.

What would you put that down too?



Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: Rossfan on July 10, 2019, 09:50:57 AM
Volunteers and hard work obviously.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: Heshs Umpire on July 10, 2019, 05:27:58 PM
Disappointing from our perspective considering how good some of these players were at U17. But I think they still have time at this grade to develop a bit more but perhaps we’re not coaching them to the same level as our competitors as we’ve struggled at this grade for too long.
We were amazed last night at how poor the Meath team was. Ye usually have a decent team.
The word is a lot of your team is underage again next year but I think Laois might well be the same.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 11, 2019, 10:43:49 AM
U20s results

Dublin 1 17 Wex 0 6
Laois 1 13 Meath 0 7

Interesting to see how Laois will go in the final, this group lost to Kildare 2 years ago by 5 points but reversed that this year and turn a 1 pt victory  two years ago into 9 tonight over Meath. That is quality progress, Dublin though turn boys into men better than anyone else.

What would you put that down too?

Hard to weight, you have your organic factor, The Dublin Club scene is really good for development.

Then you have the Capital City factor, any number of scholarships available in the 4 Universities, so a talented footballer won't be moving to Galway, Limerick, Cork etc. So essentially his lifestyle will revolve around football. Add in the best of care that comes from being on the Dublin pathway, top class medical care , S&C access, performance & lifestyle coaches, dieticians and so forth. Even when it comes to getting a summer gig, a Dublin player will be well looked after. 

Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: kerryforsam19 on July 11, 2019, 12:20:42 PM
U20s results

Dublin 1 17 Wex 0 6
Laois 1 13 Meath 0 7

Interesting to see how Laois will go in the final, this group lost to Kildare 2 years ago by 5 points but reversed that this year and turn a 1 pt victory  two years ago into 9 tonight over Meath. That is quality progress, Dublin though turn boys into men better than anyone else.

What would you put that down too?

Hard to weight, you have your organic factor, The Dublin Club scene is really good for development.

Then you have the Capital City factor, any number of scholarships available in the 4 Universities, so a talented footballer won't be moving to Galway, Limerick, Cork etc. So essentially his lifestyle will revolve around football. Add in the best of care that comes from being on the Dublin pathway, top class medical care , S&C access, performance & lifestyle coaches, dieticians and so forth. Even when it comes to getting a summer gig, a Dublin player will be well looked after.

What a lifestyle coach? We never had any of them in Kerry. Peter Keane just has backroom team of 7
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 11, 2019, 02:35:40 PM
It's the role that Bernard Dunne has done for them.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: Hound on July 12, 2019, 01:48:06 PM
Not sure that either team the Dubs U20s beat were in the top 5 in Leinster this year, so completely unknown how good they are. Haven’t seen them play, but reviews are a bit mixed. Still, they’ve done all that’s been asked of them, so could well have another gear if pushed

I wonder do Laois have any players from the senior panel they can add to the U20s, now they are out of senior?


Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: Blowitupref on September 06, 2019, 10:36:30 PM
Dublin to receive Leinster SFC bye next year


Leinster Council delegates are expected to vote in favour of giving Dublin a bye into the semi-finals of next year's Leinster SFC when they meet next Wednesday night.

The Irish Independent is reporting that the five-in-a-row chasing All-Ireland champions are set to play one game less in 2020 as their vice-like grip on the Delaney Cup shows no sign of slipping. Dublin have won 14 of the last 15 Leinster SFC titles and their dominance is on par with that which the Kilkenny hurlers enjoyed a decade ago when they also received a bye straight in the provincial semi-finals.

While Jim Gavin's men would enter the provincial race at the last-four stage, it's proposed that Carlow, Offaly, Westmeath, Wexford, Wicklow, Longford and Louth would play in preliminary quarter-finals where they would be joined by one of this year's semi-finalists - Kildare, Meath and Laois - with two of those starting their campaigns at the quarter-final stage.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: macdanger2 on October 07, 2019, 10:16:23 AM
Championship draw this morning for some reason and "The draws for the Munster and Connacht championships take place tomorrow morning, while it's Ulster turn on Thursday". This is a new (and completely pointless) departure, there's barely enough talking points in the entire draw without dragging it out like this.

Leinster first round draw:

Louth v Longford

The winner will play Laois in a quarter-final

Wexford v Wickow

The winner is set to play Meath in a quarter-final

Carlow v Offaly

The winner will play Kildare in a quarter-final

Quarter-final:

Westmeath v Dublin
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: Owenmoresider on October 07, 2019, 10:45:25 AM
Championship draw this morning for some reason and "The draws for the Munster and Connacht championships take place tomorrow morning, while it's Ulster turn on Thursday". This is a new (and completely pointless) departure, there's barely enough talking points in the entire draw without dragging it out like this.
It's such utter bollix, a blatant ruse to try and boost Morning Ireland listenership figures in the assumption that we'll all be listening in to hear these draws, as they had already done with the qualifier draws the last few years.

And seemingly it's just the quarter-final draws being done? So basically one team in Connacht, either us, Leitrim or Mayo, won't have any clue as to who they're playing next year or when. Not as if any counties have to arrange their fixture schedule for their clubs or anything, not that Croke Park would care about things like that.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: Cunny Funt on October 07, 2019, 12:26:45 PM
Championship draw this morning for some reason and "The draws for the Munster and Connacht championships take place tomorrow morning, while it's Ulster turn on Thursday". This is a new (and completely pointless) departure, there's barely enough talking points in the entire draw without dragging it out like this.

Leinster first round draw:

Louth v Longford

The winner will play Laois in a quarter-final

Wexford v Wickow

The winner is set to play Meath in a quarter-final

Carlow v Offaly

The winner will play Kildare in a quarter-final

Quarter-final:

Westmeath v Dublin

Same for the other draws with no semi finals known till later?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 07, 2019, 12:46:07 PM
Was there any excitement in the presenters voices when doing the draw?
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: Rossfan on October 07, 2019, 01:41:16 PM
Seeing as 2 of the Connacht QFs are already decided they'll hardly just do the one other pairing??
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: TheGreatest on October 07, 2019, 01:53:34 PM
Championship draw this morning for some reason and "The draws for the Munster and Connacht championships take place tomorrow morning, while it's Ulster turn on Thursday". This is a new (and completely pointless) departure, there's barely enough talking points in the entire draw without dragging it out like this.

Leinster first round draw:

Louth v Longford

The winner will play Laois in a quarter-final

Wexford v Wickow

The winner is set to play Meath in a quarter-final

Carlow v Offaly

The winner will play Kildare in a quarter-final

Quarter-final:

Westmeath v Dublin

Good draw. Looking like Dublin Kildare semi and if Dublin progress* Dublin v Meath Final, two Div 1 teams contesting. Looking forward to it
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: Dinny Breen on October 07, 2019, 02:41:49 PM
Championship draw this morning for some reason and "The draws for the Munster and Connacht championships take place tomorrow morning, while it's Ulster turn on Thursday". This is a new (and completely pointless) departure, there's barely enough talking points in the entire draw without dragging it out like this.

Leinster first round draw:

Louth v Longford

The winner will play Laois in a quarter-final

Wexford v Wickow

The winner is set to play Meath in a quarter-final

Carlow v Offaly

The winner will play Kildare in a quarter-final

Quarter-final:

Westmeath v Dublin

Good draw. Looking like Dublin Kildare semi and if Dublin progress* Dublin v Meath Final, two Div 1 teams contesting. Looking forward to it

It's an open draw for the semi-finals.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: TheGreatest on October 07, 2019, 03:33:38 PM
Championship draw this morning for some reason and "The draws for the Munster and Connacht championships take place tomorrow morning, while it's Ulster turn on Thursday". This is a new (and completely pointless) departure, there's barely enough talking points in the entire draw without dragging it out like this.

Leinster first round draw:

Louth v Longford

The winner will play Laois in a quarter-final

Wexford v Wickow

The winner is set to play Meath in a quarter-final

Carlow v Offaly

The winner will play Kildare in a quarter-final

Quarter-final:

Westmeath v Dublin

Good draw. Looking like Dublin Kildare semi and if Dublin progress* Dublin v Meath Final, two Div 1 teams contesting. Looking forward to it

It's an open draw for the semi-finals.

Didnt know that. cheers.
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: Hound on October 07, 2019, 03:40:19 PM
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Westmeath v Dublin

Presumably there's no reason this can't take place in Mullingar?
Although Leinster Council will probably come up with some reason to move it!
(Hopefully Westmeath fight any talk of moving it elsewhere, if it does come to that).
Title: Re: Leinster Senior, u20 & Minor Football Championship 2019
Post by: BennyCake on October 07, 2019, 03:49:51 PM
Was there any excitement in the presenters voices when doing the draw?

Nope. This fella was at the mike.