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Title: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Unlaoised on April 10, 2018, 10:25:13 AM
Time to start a new thread just a little over a month to our first game and we couldn't ask for much more as regards the league.

I suppose you'll have lads on here giving out about some performances and they have a right to their opinion like anyone else.

However we won every game we played and despite the second half in Dr cullen park I think we were getiing stronger as the league went on.

John has blooded some new players and it means committed players like Strong Donoher (just an example )aren't sure of their places anymore which can only be a good thing.

We have a good forward line and if we can get Donie Kingston Gary Walsh and Evan O'Carroll firing we surely will kick up a few big scores.

add to that Paul Kingston Ross and young Lowry and there is certainly potential there ...

Benny Carroll and Brian Glynn have put their hands up for places and Alan Farrell is there or there abouts!

In the backs we don't have as many options but Dillions performance in Croker has certaily giving the full back line a whole new look...

Timmons is vital to the full back line but we have decent cover in Nerney.

Attride might need to move to half back in my opinion to strenghten that line but Piggott and collins have done okay to be fair to them.

Begley seems most comfortable at number six and is playing well.

Problem is we don't have major cover for the backs We haven't seen enough of Holland or Finn from Portlaoise

I think Crowley is going with the under 20s.I know Strong is there as I said Nerney cetaily looks the part

O'Reilly will be a loss as he could fill in a number of positions and was ideal in that sense adding pace to the team .

Dennis Booth can be an option if he gets back to the pace of it before Championship which will be hard for him!


Lillis and O'Loughlin don't have much competition for the midfield births I'dLove Quigley or Meany to be in there just to add power and strenght to the bench but we know Meaney isn't there and Quigley might not make it.

In a perfect world we would be able to call on the services of Healy Quigley Cahillane Finn and Meridith to boost the panel and the strenght of the team but alas we may go with what we have for the minute and I believe it's good enough to beat Wexford and really have a good lash at a decent Westmeath team!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Don Draper on April 10, 2018, 11:36:38 AM
Meaney can stay where he is.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on April 10, 2018, 01:34:31 PM
We've won division 4 and are capable of beating Wexford which is all positive but Jesus Unlaoised I think your getting a bit excited with some of your player analysis there. We don't have as many decent options as Is being suggested I feel. Some of them players you mentioned have been poor enough I feel.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on April 10, 2018, 03:53:58 PM
We've won division 4 and are capable of beating Wexford which is all positive but Jesus Unlaoised I think your getting a bit excited with some of your player analysis there. We don't have as many decent options as Is being suggested I feel. Some of them players you mentioned have been poor enough I feel.

some of them haven't been great but I still think there is something to work with


The spine of the team is strong

Brody timmons Begley Jol Kingston Walsh ...

Add Attride to that Paul Kingston And O'Carroll and its 10 very good county players in my opinion....

Lills has been okay in the middle and Alan Farrell and Dillion are improving under Sugure .

Lowry can only get better.....


I know I always see the positives in things but sure why not ...Too many people in Laois think the other way!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on April 10, 2018, 03:55:24 PM
On another note we have some amount of lurkers that don't post 184 views in this topic  ;D ;D ;D

come on lads say what you really feel!!!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: vetoldthe on April 10, 2018, 11:18:40 PM
Here is one of the lurkers,
just looking back on the tape the carlow keeper only kicked long 3 times which they won
Brody kicked long 12 times and we only won 4
so total 15   Carlow win 11  and we win only 4
just thought i would put that out there,
so have we a problem in the middle,
anyway it was great to be in croke park so well done to the management and the team.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: The Boy Wonder on April 10, 2018, 11:58:07 PM
Meaney can stay where he is.

This is a disgusting comment on a guy who has been a great servant to Laois football (and would be very welcome back in my opinion).
There are indeed many "lurkers" on this forum who do not want to descend to debating with the likes of this poster.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Don Draper on April 11, 2018, 07:04:49 AM
Meaney can stay where he is.

This is a disgusting comment on a guy who has been a great servant to Laois football (and would be very welcome back in my opinion).
There are indeed many "lurkers" on this forum who do not want to descend to debating with the likes of this poster.
Wind in your neck a bit, Kevinís discipline in the league last year when he was needed was shocking, especially in Tullamore. I put it very nicely, you came in shouting and bawling. He retired, leave him where he is. 

Now, if you really want to get into it, we can, and Iíll go a little deeper on it.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on April 11, 2018, 07:52:59 AM
Meaney can stay where he is.

This is a disgusting comment on a guy who has been a great servant to Laois football (and would be very welcome back in my opinion).
There are indeed many "lurkers" on this forum who do not want to descend to debating with the likes of this poster.
Wind in your neck a bit, Kevinís discipline in the league last year when he was needed was shocking, especially in Tullamore. I put it very nicely, you came in shouting and bawling. He retired, leave him where he is. 

Now, if you really want to get into it, we can, and Iíll go a little deeper on it.


Let's not have this decend into another topic ....

Keep it on the subject in hand
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: on the hop on April 11, 2018, 09:44:00 AM
The kickouts have been a continuing problem for a while, not just this year. Carlow in the two games went with a high press and the lack of movement forced us to kick long which suited them. Obvious that both midfielders struggled trying to field balls going backwards. Evan had been an underused option on the wing throughout the league  and Glynn was only tried an odd time, so brody usually went towards the middle in the hope of picking up breaking ball.  Every other team set back and allowed us to go short in the league or play the one-two with brody and use him to carry the ball out. Probably two issues, both midfielders and the half forwards are not moving a lot to take a kick out in space when pressed high to beat it and the slowness of the backs to give brody an option when going short. Stuff to be worked on.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Don Draper on April 11, 2018, 09:52:44 AM
The kickouts have been a continuing problem for a while, not just this year. Carlow in the two games went with a high press and the lack of movement forced us to kick long which suited them. Obvious that both midfielders struggled trying to field balls going backwards. Evan had been an underused option on the wing throughout the league  and Glynn was only tried an odd time, so brody usually went towards the middle in the hope of picking up breaking ball.  Every other team set back and allowed us to go short in the league or play the one-two with brody and use him to carry the ball out. Probably two issues, both midfielders and the half forwards are not moving a lot to take a kick out in space when pressed high to beat it and the slowness of the backs to give brody an option when going short. Stuff to be worked on.
Hard to believe we couldn't isolate runners on the wing on a pitch the size of Croke Park. Definitely needs working on. It'll crucify us against a decent side, albeit Carlow's midfield is above average.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on April 11, 2018, 01:01:47 PM
The kickouts have been a continuing problem for a while, not just this year. Carlow in the two games went with a high press and the lack of movement forced us to kick long which suited them. Obvious that both midfielders struggled trying to field balls going backwards. Evan had been an underused option on the wing throughout the league  and Glynn was only tried an odd time, so brody usually went towards the middle in the hope of picking up breaking ball.  Every other team set back and allowed us to go short in the league or play the one-two with brody and use him to carry the ball out. Probably two issues, both midfielders and the half forwards are not moving a lot to take a kick out in space when pressed high to beat it and the slowness of the backs to give brody an option when going short. Stuff to be worked on.
Hard to believe we couldn't isolate runners on the wing on a pitch the size of Croke Park. Definitely needs working on. It'll crucify us against a decent side, albeit Carlow's midfield is above average.

hard to argue with that ...This is where Quigley is a big loos ...Not only did he catch his fair share ...The best and bigget midfielder always marked him allowing O'Loughlin to dominate the other player more!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: OTF on April 12, 2018, 04:55:23 AM
Against Carlow most of the ball we lost in this area was on the ground and a lot of the lads tired early in second half which suggests to me weíre still a bit behind with our physical strength and fitness.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: O moore parklife on April 12, 2018, 08:50:37 AM
Against Carlow most of the ball we lost in this area was on the ground and a lot of the lads tired early in second half which suggests to me weíre still a bit behind with our physical strength and fitness.

Strongly disagree they look fitter this year than anytime in the last 3. Playing against a blanket of s#%te defence will suck the life out of you. The turmover count was heavily on our side which needs serious explosive effort and counter attacking effort..can't stretch your legs in a quagmire
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on April 12, 2018, 01:13:08 PM
Against Carlow most of the ball we lost in this area was on the ground and a lot of the lads tired early in second half which suggests to me weíre still a bit behind with our physical strength and fitness.

Strongly disagree they look fitter this year than anytime in the last 3. Playing against a blanket of s#%te defence will suck the life out of you. The turmover count was heavily on our side which needs serious explosive effort and counter attacking effort..can't stretch your legs in a quagmire

I'd have to agree with this...While stillnot as fit as some teams (likes of Clare in O'Moore park last year or Kildare against us in Tullamore)we are defo fitter the turnover balls in the games against Carlow London and I thought waterford proved that ...If our decision making was better on the counter we could have really capitalized on this instead we gave away some silly balls ...Examples Walsh against Carlow in the second half in dr Cullen park.O'Loughlin away to London being another that comes to mind!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Andy06 on April 12, 2018, 01:48:14 PM
Suppose I would be classed as one of the "lurkers"! Tend to prefer reading other people's viewpoints on things, which more often than not would relate to mine anyways. Also, being away from the county and having a young family limits the amount i can get to games so dont think its fair to comment on something i only get second hand info on.

My views on the league as a whole are that progress has definately been made. As Unlaoised mentioned we have blooded a lot of new players, some of which look at home in the starting 15 already in Gareth Dillon and Robbie Piggott. I hope these two in particular and Eoin Lowry keep their place in the team for the game against Wexford. Win, lose or draw it will give them valuable experience of the cut and thrust of championship football. It should also raise the game of the more established players who would not have the easy ride to the first 15 as they seemed to have in the past and (you would hope) burst a gut to get back into the team when given a chance.
End of the day the goal at the start of the year was achieved, we got promoted after winning Division 4. We played some awesome stuff in first half against Carlow but you can see that we are a work in progress. That will only come after another year or two with John at the helm.
The kickouts I feel have been a problem for a number of years and the lack of people showing for it is telling. This like other areas (use of the ball when in possession for example) are something that would probably take a good year to get to grips with.
Its always the second year that you see the real improvements in a managerial setup (think McGeeney at Kildare and Gilroy at Dublin who were brutal in the first year), but there is definately grounds for optimism!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on April 12, 2018, 03:55:35 PM
Suppose I would be classed as one of the "lurkers"! Tend to prefer reading other people's viewpoints on things, which more often than not would relate to mine anyways. Also, being away from the county and having a young family limits the amount i can get to games so dont think its fair to comment on something i only get second hand info on.

My views on the league as a whole are that progress has definately been made. As Unlaoised mentioned we have blooded a lot of new players, some of which look at home in the starting 15 already in Gareth Dillon and Robbie Piggott. I hope these two in particular and Eoin Lowry keep their place in the team for the game against Wexford. Win, lose or draw it will give them valuable experience of the cut and thrust of championship football. It should also raise the game of the more established players who would not have the easy ride to the first 15 as they seemed to have in the past and (you would hope) burst a gut to get back into the team when given a chance.
End of the day the goal at the start of the year was achieved, we got promoted after winning Division 4. We played some awesome stuff in first half against Carlow but you can see that we are a work in progress. That will only come after another year or two with John at the helm.
The kickouts I feel have been a problem for a number of years and the lack of people showing for it is telling. This like other areas (use of the ball when in possession for example) are something that would probably take a good year to get to grips with.
Its always the second year that you see the real improvements in a managerial setup (think McGeeney at Kildare and Gilroy at Dublin who were brutal in the first year), but there is definately grounds for optimism!

Thats a good post Andy ...You should get on here more....


If we all just looked and nobody posted it would be fair boring...


I Love nothing move than coming on here for five for ten minutes some days and seeing loads of activity (not silly arguments however)


Laois Abu!!!

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: O moore parklife on April 15, 2018, 10:40:56 PM
Looks like Colm Murphy has left the panel to play ball in America this year.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on April 17, 2018, 09:06:22 AM
Looks like Colm Murphy has left the panel to play ball in America this year.

I heard that ...Big loss for his club as well
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: The Monument Road on April 17, 2018, 09:39:38 AM
Looks like Colm Murphy has left the panel to play ball in America this year.
I'm hearing that other young players are doing the same. Young Cathal Dunne from Ballylinan and Arron Cooney from Josephs are also heading stateside. Whats alarming is the type of transfers they are getting. Its the permanent inter county transfer. Have the rules changed away from the old J1 or the 30/60 day rule where players come back for the local championship.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on April 17, 2018, 02:19:48 PM
Looks like Colm Murphy has left the panel to play ball in America this year.
I'm hearing that other young players are doing the same. Young Cathal Dunne from Ballylinan and Arron Cooney from Josephs are also heading stateside. Whats alarming is the type of transfers they are getting. Its the permanent inter county transfer. Have the rules changed away from the old J1 or the 30/60 day rule where players come back for the local championship.

Not sure but I think the rules are different....

Murphy could kick with New York this summer I'm hearing!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on April 18, 2018, 01:36:12 PM
Challenge game vs Meath on Tuesday night at half seven in Graiguecullen. All money going towards Daniel O Reilly's recovery. Should be a tricky test all the same Meath would be a fair step up from the teams we have faced so far, looking foward to it .
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laois fan on April 18, 2018, 01:43:38 PM
Tough game and for a very worthy cause but with a full round of club fixtures on saturday night and another round on thursday night 3games in 5 days seems alot to ask the county lads,can see a good few not togging for their clubs which wont go down well
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on April 19, 2018, 03:29:59 PM
Tough game and for a very worthy cause but with a full round of club fixtures on saturday night and another round on thursday night 3games in 5 days seems alot to ask the county lads,can see a good few not togging for their clubs which wont go down well

This....The players will be wrecked with club games and county training!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: redsetanta on April 19, 2018, 05:13:15 PM
It's for a good cause, it's a challenge against decent opposition and they would have been training anyhow. Give most of the lads some game time. Can't see the problem.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: The PRO on April 19, 2018, 05:16:50 PM
Tough game and for a very worthy cause but with a full round of club fixtures on saturday night and another round on thursday night 3games in 5 days seems alot to ask the county lads,can see a good few not togging for their clubs which wont go down well

This....The players will be wrecked with club games and county training!
It's up to management to manage the players workload. I'd imagine in the Meath game most lads will only play half thge game with the usual clatter of subs being used.
Great to see lads out there with their clubs. Some of them have been excellent in games I saw.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Clubber Lang on April 19, 2018, 05:54:22 PM
Would the system being trailed in Monaghan for their own county league be worth experimenting with. Has added a championship feel to those designated 5 pointer league games in Monaghan and county players, clubs and supporters all seem to have responded very positively to it. A couple of intensive league games surely beneficial to players in lead up to championship- develop match sharpness and raise intensity levels.   
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Butch Cassidy on April 21, 2018, 09:22:39 PM
Eoin Buggie on the panel lads?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: The PRO on April 22, 2018, 12:44:55 AM
Eoin Buggie on the panel lads?
Off to America I heard.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: From the Terrace on April 23, 2018, 08:13:29 AM
Tough game and for a very worthy cause but with a full round of club fixtures on saturday night and another round on thursday night 3games in 5 days seems alot to ask the county lads,can see a good few not togging for their clubs which wont go down well
Id be of the opinion two weeks before wexford game, There after playing a few league games with clubs. Leave them with county and give the wexford game all the focus.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: BobbyBoucherJr on April 23, 2018, 08:48:09 AM
Robbie Piggot going to America as well I heard
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on April 23, 2018, 11:57:36 AM
So there's an inter county game tomorrow night (Tuesday)and another round of club fixtures on Thursday ? Who is the clown organizing these fixtures ? And the weekend is free so what's this Thursday night business about ?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Don Draper on April 23, 2018, 12:02:54 PM
So there's an inter county game tomorrow night (Tuesday)and another round of club fixtures on Thursday ? Who is the clown organizing these fixtures ? And the weekend is free so what's this Thursday night business about ?
Lot of anger for a Monday lunchtime. Who told you the weekend is free?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: SCFC on April 23, 2018, 03:32:22 PM
Tough game and for a very worthy cause but with a full round of club fixtures on saturday night and another round on thursday night 3games in 5 days seems alot to ask the county lads,can see a good few not togging for their clubs which wont go down well
Id be of the opinion two weeks before wexford game, There after playing a few league games with clubs. Leave them with county and give the wexford game all the focus.
Can't agree. April was designated a club only month. Given that the clubs are unlikely to have their county players again until club championship, they surely deserve to have them for 4 games in April.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: SCFC on April 23, 2018, 03:40:47 PM
So there's an inter county game tomorrow night (Tuesday)and another round of club fixtures on Thursday ? Who is the clown organizing these fixtures ? And the weekend is free so what's this Thursday night business about ?
Surely the reason the games are on Thursday night is to allow Laois to have them for over two full weeks before the Wexford game? Isnít there a 13 day rule or something like that?
 
Get the games played on Thursday night and Sugrue will have full access to them for 15 days.

The game tomorrow night is the ďextraĒ game Ė it wasnít originally on the schedule. I presume that all players will get half a game tomorrow night so no one will be too burnt out.

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Don Draper on April 23, 2018, 04:02:57 PM
So there's an inter county game tomorrow night (Tuesday)and another round of club fixtures on Thursday ? Who is the clown organizing these fixtures ? And the weekend is free so what's this Thursday night business about ?
Surely the reason the games are on Thursday night is to allow Laois to have them for over two full weeks before the Wexford game? Isnít there a 13 day rule or something like that?
 
Get the games played on Thursday night and Sugrue will have full access to them for 15 days.

The game tomorrow night is the ďextraĒ game Ė it wasnít originally on the schedule. I presume that all players will get half a game tomorrow night so no one will be too burnt out.
Ex

actly.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on April 24, 2018, 01:35:14 AM
Declan O'Loughlin handing over the Barney Hennessy Cup to Graiguecullen club chairman Michael Lawler.

The cup will be presented to the winning team tonight by Barney's great grand son Brendan Hennessy and his great great grand daughter Aoife Hennessy.


Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on April 24, 2018, 12:11:38 PM
Whats the cup all about ?Is it going to be an annual game between Laois and Meath?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on April 24, 2018, 09:46:26 PM
Laois   1-14
Meath  2-17

https://www.laoistoday.ie/2018/04/24/experimental-laois-footballers-go-down-to-meath-in-graiguecullen/
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Butch Cassidy on April 24, 2018, 10:14:29 PM
Anyone at it? Few new lads called in like Bracken, Buggie, Shiels and Finn?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on April 25, 2018, 12:42:31 PM
Wasn't at the game but I heard Laois fought hard in the second half and game back into it . Friend up in Meath says they were missing Graham Reilly, Eamonn Wallace, James McEntee, Ben Brennan, Adam Flanagan, Brian Power, Padraig McKeever and Micky Newman ( if he commits ) . But all in all a decent workout . Don't think Begley was playing for us or Alan Farrell or Glynn
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on April 25, 2018, 01:08:05 PM
Forgot to ask him about James Toher, Padraic Harnan, Andrew Tormey and Shane O Rourke .For us  Bracken from Odempseys got a run out and Keogh from St Joseph's
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on April 25, 2018, 01:12:01 PM
Is Ronan Jones from Dunboyne involved ? Was Midfieild last year for Meath and looked very good.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on May 01, 2018, 04:55:51 PM
I hear we have a lot of niggles on the injury front....

Cahillane is gone for wexford for sure.

Glynn ,Begley,donoher have all got injuries that might have them in doubt.

Timmons and O'Loughlin Paul Kingston and Evan O'Carroll are also carrying knocks
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Unison on May 02, 2018, 12:55:51 PM
I hear we have a lot of niggles on the injury front....

Cahillane is gone for wexford for sure.

Glynn ,Begley,donoher have all got injuries that might have them in doubt.

Timmons and O'Loughlin Paul Kingston and Evan O'Carroll are also carrying knocks

Why is it always like this leading up to the championship?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Don Draper on May 02, 2018, 01:02:50 PM
I hear we have a lot of niggles on the injury front....

Cahillane is gone for wexford for sure.

Glynn ,Begley,donoher have all got injuries that might have them in doubt.

Timmons and O'Loughlin Paul Kingston and Evan O'Carroll are also carrying knocks

Why is it always like this leading up to the championship?
Every team will have players carrying "knocks". I very much doubt any player has lined out without some degree of a "knock". Cahillane hasn't been fit all year. Timmons, god bless him, always has some sort of "knock". Paul Kingston has been coming back from a "knock".
Just how it is. A fella could pick up a strain or a "knock" sitting in a car.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 02, 2018, 02:18:11 PM
True Don , if you were to sit out every game you had a niggle or knock you would never be playing would you?😂😂 With the exception of being very sick , having a torn muscle or ligament damage or having a broken bone there shouldn't really be an excuse from a physical point of view ? Most niggles or knocks can be ran off but most of the time your mind can make it worse than it really is . Ever hear the saying " Injured in the head "?😂😂
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Uisce on May 02, 2018, 04:37:16 PM
Looking forward to the game, more so than in previous years. Seems to be a little but more optimism about the team, winning Division 4 wasn't an extremely significant achievement but was the best they could do. Hard to speculate on a team, especially if some of those injuries are going to rule lads out, so I won't even try!

Will hopefully get a decent crowd to the game as the summer can start with a win!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Tony on May 03, 2018, 11:56:08 AM
I know Wexford have been poor recently, but going to Wexford Park and winning is not easy. The odds baffle me a bit - Wexford are 3/1 to win, we're 3/10. I would have thought that'd be a bit more even given that we haven't exactly set the world alight the past few years either, and Wexford's home advantage. Personally, I think we'll get the win, but I'd say about 2 points or 4/6 favourites kind of odds. Hopefully we can name a strong team. It'd be nice to make a bit of progress in Leinster this year. Another year of early qualifiers wouldn't be ideal.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Don Draper on May 03, 2018, 11:58:24 AM
I know Wexford have been poor recently, but going to Wexford Park and winning is not easy. The odds baffle me a bit - Wexford are 3/1 to win, we're 3/10. I would have thought that'd be a bit more even given that we haven't exactly set the world alight the past few years either, and Wexford's home advantage. Personally, I think we'll get the win, but I'd say about 2 points or 4/6 favourites kind of odds. Hopefully we can name a strong team. It'd be nice to make a bit of progress in Leinster this year. Another year of early qualifiers wouldn't be ideal.
We'll bate them T, relax. They're scrap. The best thing they have going for them in a retro jersey.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 03, 2018, 12:16:28 PM
Well I'd agree with Tony . Like I'd imagine Wexford would be as good as Carlow? We were blessed to get out of Carlow with a one point win in the league . Up in Croker we only beat them by four plus they had a couple of decent goal opportunities aswell . I wouldn't lose the run of myself now although I think we will get the win . Hopefully anyway
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Don Draper on May 03, 2018, 12:20:34 PM
Well I'd agree with Tony . Like I'd imagine Wexford would be as good as Carlow? We were blessed to get out of Carlow with a one point win in the league . Up in Croker we only beat them by four plus they had a couple of decent goal opportunities aswell . I wouldn't lose the run of myself now although I think we will get the win . Hopefully anyway
Carlow were on a high, unbeaten. Wexford are in a slump, relegated and suffering mass defections. They played Division 3 football, but played it poorly.
Lads on here tried to talk Carlow up, but in the end, we had them at arms length, both days. No point getting carried away, but at the same time, its a poor Wexford side, that we shouldn't fear. We love a bit of auld fear here.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 03, 2018, 12:23:09 PM
Well I wouldn't say we had Carlow at arms length the day we bet them 1-5 to 0-7 😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 03, 2018, 12:23:38 PM
Sorry 1-6 to 0-8 it was
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Don Draper on May 03, 2018, 12:24:09 PM
Sorry 1-6 to 0-8 it was
Sorry, I must have missed where they lead for the entire game.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on May 03, 2018, 04:34:54 PM
I think they were in a training camp last weekend and are playing a friendly this weekend against a team from the north!

Evan O'Carroll did his hammer playing for cretty according to a cretty man I was talking to today and cahillane looks to be out

The other players are coming on well but Time will tell especially with Begley and Glynn according to the same Cretty man that was at a recent training!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 03, 2018, 11:14:16 PM
Who was the Cretty man ?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 08, 2018, 12:27:59 AM



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Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: The PRO on May 08, 2018, 10:31:32 AM
O'Carroll and Lowry definitely out for Saturday. I think Glynn may not be fully ready either.

I can see the team being something like;

Brody

Attride Timmons Dillon

Strong or O'Connor Begley Collins

OíLoughlin Lillis

P Kingston at 11 with 2 from Carroll, Donoher and Farrell on the wings.

Munnelly or Conway D Kingston Walsh

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 08, 2018, 10:48:17 AM
I think Glynn will be fit , but OCarroll , Lowry and Cahillane are all out.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: blueandwhite1 on May 08, 2018, 10:58:39 AM
O'Carroll and Lowry definitely out for Saturday. I think Glynn may not be fully ready either.

I can see the team being something like;

Brody

Attride Timmons Dillon

Strong or O'Connor Begley Collins

OíLoughlin Lillis

P Kingston at 11 with 2 from Carroll, Donoher and Farrell on the wings.

Munnelly or Conway D Kingston Walsh

Interesting that of all the talk around a fresh approach, only Trevor Collins is likely to make the step up to the championship team after the league. We essentially will probably start with the same team that we had for the last 3 years or so.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 08, 2018, 11:05:30 AM
Trevor Collins was on the team last year sure. He was corner back in the 10 point loss to Clare in the qualifiers . So it is essentially the same team or almost
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: BallyroanAbu on May 08, 2018, 11:48:37 AM
In fairness the mentality has improved, which I felt was our huge issue.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 08, 2018, 12:12:39 PM
Well id say there is a more positive mentality . Last year we were coming into the championship off the back of Division 3 relegation . This year we are coming in off the back of a successful promotion campaign back to division 3 . I know it's only div 4 but at least it's a bit of positivity and momentum . My main worry would be that this has been more or less the same team the last few years and this will be another year now for some of those older legs. Not many of the younger guys seem to have really put a hand up.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: The PRO on May 08, 2018, 12:51:39 PM
To be fair it's only my guess at the team.
Championship debuts are likely for a few lads as it's a 21 man game these days. I'd imagine Carroll will either start or come on. Nerney might appear. Possibly Holland or Finn?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 08, 2018, 01:00:23 PM
Are Crowley, Chris Finn, Damien oc , Aaron Dowling in with a shout these days ? Or are they just squad players? I think he'll go with, Brody, Attride , Timmons, Dillon, Collins, Begley, Strong, Jol , Lillis, Farrell, P Kingston, Glynn, Ross, Donie, Walsh
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Tony on May 08, 2018, 02:12:20 PM
There are plenty of the newer bunch in with a shout of a starting place. If any of them don't make the starting 15, they will be strong substitutes off the bench. Saying that we haven't made progress in that regard is nonsense.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: The PRO on May 08, 2018, 03:43:29 PM
There are plenty of the newer bunch in with a shout of a starting place. If any of them don't make the starting 15, they will be strong substitutes off the bench. Saying that we haven't made progress in that regard is nonsense.
I didn't see anyone say "we haven't made progress". The thrust of the last few posts was that the starting team may not have many new faces to championship football. That's all was said.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 08, 2018, 03:55:04 PM
The newer gang will be getting more game time eventually as i understand a couple of the older gang will not be committing next year.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Clubber Lang on May 08, 2018, 06:08:14 PM
I feel a number of the 'old guard' have responded positively to the challenge put down by the younger players- you can't ask anymore than that. They also seem to be playing to a gameplan and there seems to be more honesty to tackle, defend and turn over the ball. My biggest gripe with Laois the last number of years was the inability to defend with lads marking space without real attempts being made to do the hard work of tracking runners, putting in tackles and sacrificing your own attacking game for the good of the team. Sugru is demanding this of the players this year. If they don't step up then they will be shipped out as a number of younger players are putting their hands up to play. Even if the younger players don't break into the starting team over the next few weeks they will have benefitted hugely from training and being involved in a positive set-up-this will stand to Laois football over the next 12-24 months. 
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 09, 2018, 12:19:26 AM
Triple injury blow for Sugrue ahead of Leinster championship opener
https://www.laoistoday.ie/2018/05/08/triple-injury-blow-for-sugrue-ahead-of-leinster-championship-opener/

Laois stalwart Munnelly gearing up for incredible 16th season
https://www.laoistoday.ie/2018/05/08/laois-stalwart-munnelly-gearing-up-for-incredible-16th-season/
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Andy06 on May 09, 2018, 11:18:10 AM
It is more or less the same team but i think we have been hard done by injuries and defections at the moment. I would have expected Eoin Lowry and Daniel O'Reilly to be 2 names in the starting 15 for the game against Wexford if they were fit and available. Throw in Robbie Piggott going to the States and it takes away another potential starter on the half back line.
To be honest I dont think a brand new starting 15 is needed at this point. If we could have gotten the above in, make the likes of Dillon and Farrell more established players then we would be making progress while also putting pressure on the older heads to fight for their places.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Stradism on May 09, 2018, 12:41:40 PM
Are Crowley, Chris Finn, Damien oc , Aaron Dowling in with a shout these days ? Or are they just squad players? I think he'll go with, Brody, Attride , Timmons, Dillon, Collins, Begley, Strong, Jol , Lillis, Farrell, P Kingston, Glynn, Ross, Donie, Walsh

Crowley is in with the U20s as far as I know.
O' Connor back from a fairly long term injury but hopefully will feature.
Dowling has been injured the past month or so.

Would be 95% sure this will be the team.
With Jamie Farrell and Donoher fighting with Glynn for 12. And Conway fighting with Munnelly for 13.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: justinn on May 09, 2018, 10:26:38 PM
LAOIS: Graham Brody; Ruaidhri C-Fennell, Mark Timmons, Gareth Dillon; Trevor Collins, Colm Begley, Stephen Attride; John OíLouhlin, Kieran Lillis; Alan Farrell, Donie Kingston, Damien OíConnor; Ross Munnelly, Gary Walsh, David Conway.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 10, 2018, 12:41:15 AM
Best of Luck to the Laois footballers next Saturday



Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Don Draper on May 10, 2018, 09:40:01 AM
Ross Munnelly.

Legend.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Tony on May 10, 2018, 12:29:52 PM
Agreed Don, what an inspiration and role model for the younger lads, and a role model in general to everyone paying attention. Surely one of the longest serving senior inter county players named in the starting 15 of any county all around the country? Still playing very well, too. A testament to keeping yourself healthy, active, good rest and good nutrition etc.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: The PRO on May 10, 2018, 03:04:55 PM
100%.
What a nice chap he is too.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 10, 2018, 03:10:34 PM
Another great Laois stalwart...




https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/sugrue-has-brought-cohesion-to-laois-36891878.html

http://www.gaa.ie/features/feature/john-loughlin-still-going-strong-for-laois/

https://www.laoistoday.ie/2018/05/10/oloughlin-hoping-to-end-laoiss-decade-long-leinster-championship-woes/

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 12, 2018, 03:15:02 PM
Big day for Ruaidhri Fennell, best of luck to all the team today. Heading out the door now, might catch some of the hurling..
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: ILikeStrawberryJam on May 12, 2018, 07:15:51 PM
Jaysus .. 10 down at half time ..
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: on the hop on May 12, 2018, 07:17:47 PM
Car crash stuff, no score from play in 38 minutes. Backs completely at sea. There half back line is killing us with 1-2 already, appears to be no pace in the team at all.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Unison on May 12, 2018, 07:25:52 PM
Utter humiliation.  :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Joeythelips on May 12, 2018, 07:48:15 PM
Judge at full time
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: SCFC on May 12, 2018, 08:42:52 PM
Judge at full time
:) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Saint75 on May 12, 2018, 08:43:54 PM
Great comeback. Fair play. Maybe found out more today than all the league👍🏻
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Unison on May 12, 2018, 08:44:09 PM
Utter humiliation.  :-[ :-[ :-[

Oh ye of little faith.  :-[ :-[

Delighted to be so wrong.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: laoislad on May 12, 2018, 08:47:07 PM
Ah that was great. Couldn't see them turn it around. Great balls shown in the second half. Hon Laois 🔵⚪
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: OTF on May 12, 2018, 08:53:28 PM
Weíll take that.
Great win.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: BallyroanAbu on May 12, 2018, 10:54:42 PM
Weíll take that.
Great win.

Great Win or Exciting Game ?

Poor performance from which I would expect we will improve, Iíd say If your serious about your football you would be slightly disappointed.  We got out of jail I think we are better than that, hopefully thatís the last time in a while we suffer a first half performance like that.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: on the hop on May 12, 2018, 11:26:27 PM
A game of four halves, first half was awful, 38 minutes and no score from play. Wexford started fast and had us under massive pressure. I don't know what our game plan was but the defence was under  pressure. They surged from their half back line all who scored and isolated one of their corner forwards. We didn't make many changes but had a few chances of goals which we didn't take. We had the wind in the second half and started better. Donie went full forward with Bennie carroll coming on and gary was sacrificed, a bit harshly as you could have taken your pick. 1-12 in the second and numerous missed chances and still after a mental last few minutes we needed Dillon to kick the leveller. Wexford had lost a few with injury at this stage and were a bit deflated. We got the wind with the start of the extra time and pushed on their kick outs making them go long. We were well on top and got the vital goal and the game kind of petered out. Certainly a great comeback considering how horrible we were. We still conceded a big score and missed a ton of goal chances.

Brody played well and managed nearly to reach the full forward line at one stage, full back was at sea and fouled far too much. Timmons came into it eventually, Dillon was poor and was dragged everywhere, he did kick the vital score.  Poor fennell was roasted after been isolated on their best forward. A change should have been made earlier. Half back line was overrun at times but all came into it, the backs were all changed in an attempt to put out  various fires. Midfield eventually got on top, Jol was excellent throughout, my man of the match. Half forward was very poor. O Connor  ended up corner back, we tried a number at 11 before carroll settled things. Farrell was very poor and a lot of their attacks came up his side. Ross mixed a bit of everything, some great scores but also a missed close frees. Gary got the hook which was a bit unfair as he was no worse than others. How tom shiel was brought on in front of him in extra time. Conway hadn't the pace for centre forward and was poor. Donie was awful at centre forward but ran amuck at 14. The loss of their full back helped as he bossed their corner back but still he missed a sitter of a goal and a point st the end. Paul Kingston kicked I think three points and needs to start the next day. Darren strong in a forward role also made a difference.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 13, 2018, 12:41:43 AM
This team learned a lot tonight and hopefully set us up for a good crack at Westmeath.
We started off as if it was our divine right to go there and win but we soon learnt that Wexford meant business. We played Div.4 standard football in the first half and Wexford's pace really had us in trouble.
Whatever they did or whatever was said at half time really got them fired up and they played real championship football right from the start of the second half. Some of the play was top class and great to watch but we missed loads of chances to go ahead and they held on for a draw at the end of the second half. Luckily for us they went for the point from the penalty right at the end and we managed to equalise thanks to a great point from Dillon. We took over completely in extra time and never looked like losing after that.
Not a great overall performance but we learned so much about ourselves from that game and it will surely stand to us in the future.
Donie is a full forward and played a stormer when moved in there. He even tracked back after losing possession on two occasions and won the ball back and that is really a good thing for Donie.
Jonno was brilliant in the second half and extra time and i'd agree he was MOTM.   
Roll on Westmeath ...
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: The PRO on May 13, 2018, 10:45:04 AM
Strangest game ever.
There was a wind but it didn't seem that strong.
We seemed to stumble on a stronger team as the game progressed. The first three subs in particularly improved things. Carroll brought a lot of energy and direct running while Donoher was excellent, got on a lot of ball and used it well. Kingston the younger did very well too and kicked some good scores.
Don't know what the chances of Lowry, Glynn or O'Carroll being fit for the next day are but it would be great to have the options.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Joeythelips on May 13, 2018, 11:23:11 AM
Did not see the game and hard to judge listening to streamed commentary but ti certainly sounded entertaining. I know Wexford are an average side who we were well fancied to beat, but to come back from 10 points down at half time against any team in the championship on their ground is a serious achievement and the team will take huge encouragement from that. Focusing on the attack seems to help Laois as they are porous at the back. Westmeath will be a step up from Wexford so will need to hit the ground running the next day.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 13, 2018, 12:17:06 PM
Full foward is the only place for Donie end of. He needs to start there against Westmeath because it's the only thing that seems to work for us. No Westmeath back will want to mark him . As for defensively we are a shambles. Can't see us keeping out enough of scores to beat Westmeath. Luke Loughlin, John Heslin, Kieran Martin, Callum McCormack and Ger Egan will all score at ease I feel. But you have to credit the heart shown yesterday.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 14, 2018, 02:13:20 AM
As for defensively we are a shambles. Can't see us keeping out enough of scores to beat Westmeath. Luke Loughlin, John Heslin, Kieran Martin, Callum McCormack and Ger Egan will all score at ease I feel. But you have to credit the heart shown yesterday.

Great to hear that sort of positivity, is there any point in playing the next game at all...... jees..

I would guess you weren't at the game on saturday. if you were you would have seen that when we throw off the shackles and believe in our ability we can be as good as most teams out there.
Supporting your team is about more than seeing them winning while playing the perfect game, it's also about recognising the attitude and pride your team has. Laois showed that they have all those qualities on saturday.

Can you tell me any team in the last 10 years came back from a half time scoreline like that away from home in a championship game and went on to win??
We should be praising them from the rooftops for what they did, most teams would have thrown in the towel and got out of there as quickly as possible. I have no doubt they will put it up to Westmeath and I think we could well beat them going on what I saw on saturday. Sure we made some errors and we were far from perfect but the football we played in the second half and in extra time was far better than what was dished up in Connaught today.


Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Leixlad on May 14, 2018, 08:37:24 AM
Have to say i really enjoyed the match Saturday. The excitement was amazing it was great to have such a big Laois crowd there id say we outnumbered the locals! Experts (and those not there) will bemoan the first half performance, we were lucky, missed chances ect but i have to say it was great to be there Saturday its a very long time since i came away from a Laois match as happy. It was pure entertainment in the second half. Well done to lads who gave all for Laois in that second half the spirit and pride in jersey was great and thats all we ask for. Just a note on big Donie, for godsake leave him on the edge of the square the next day and kick it in long and fast there isnt a full back in the country that'll keep him quiet!   ;D
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 14, 2018, 09:52:14 AM
I was at the game actually. I said u would have to credit the heart shown? I also said Donie has to be full foward . The only negative I said was that Westmeath will score because we are way open defensively . Even in the second half against Wexford when we upped it we were still walked through down the centre of our defence. My point is u might get away with this crack against the likes of Carlow and Wexford and Leitrim but sooner or later we will be caught .
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Don Draper on May 14, 2018, 10:06:10 AM
I was at the game actually. I said u would have to credit the heart shown? I also said Donie has to be full foward . The only negative I said was that Westmeath will score because we are way open defensively . Even in the second half against Wexford when we upped it we were still walked through down the centre of our defence. My point is u might get away with this crack against the likes of Carlow and Wexford and Leitrim but sooner or later we will be caught .
Handle Heslin and we'll handle Westmeath. Shame we haven't Pigott around. Time for another pest to turn up.

Great character shown in Wexford, and a great bit of an atmosphere once the comeback began. However, lets never ever do that again. Ever.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Don Draper on May 14, 2018, 10:09:11 AM
One other thing. There was a hape of chaps in Croke Park for the League Final. And again in Wexford Saturday evening. Can you imagine the buzz they're getting currently from following this Laois team? Heroes are being made, in the same way as Big John Costello, George Irwin, Curly Predergast, Pat Dunne, Gerry Browne, etc all were for my generation.

Sure, there's a brick wall in our future, there's few counties who dont meet one eventually, but f**k it if its not good to sit back and say thanks to the boys for the pride in the jersey they're showing, its great to see.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: OTF on May 14, 2018, 11:06:57 AM
As for defensively we are a shambles. Can't see us keeping out enough of scores to beat Westmeath. Luke Loughlin, John Heslin, Kieran Martin, Callum McCormack and Ger Egan will all score at ease I feel. But you have to credit the heart shown yesterday.

Great to hear that sort of positivity, is there any point in playing the next game at all...... jees..

I would guess you weren't at the game on saturday. if you were you would have seen that when we throw off the shackles and believe in our ability we can be as good as most teams out there.
Supporting your team is about more than seeing them winning while playing the perfect game, it's also about recognising the attitude and pride your team has. Laois showed that they have all those qualities on saturday.

Can you tell me any team in the last 10 years came back from a half time scoreline like that away from home in a championship game and went on to win??
We should be praising them from the rooftops for what they did, most teams would have thrown in the towel and got out of there as quickly as possible. I have no doubt they will put it up to Westmeath and I think we could well beat them going on what I saw on saturday. Sure we made some errors and we were far from perfect but the football we played in the second half and in extra time was far better than what was dished up in Connaught today.

Exactly.
I struggle to remember us coming from behind at have time ever,  were we behind Offaly  at HT  in 2003  ???
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: les Antiques on May 14, 2018, 12:34:19 PM
Attrides  role in this team is vital particularly in an offensive sense. You could see how difficult Wexford found in tracking his runs and so much of our threat stemmed from his forays from the half back line .

Heslin is doubtful to play at all this year nevermind been fit for the Laois match . I'd be more worried about our disastrous record in Tullamore in recent years .
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Don Draper on May 14, 2018, 12:46:36 PM
Attrides  role in this team is vital particularly in an offensive sense. You could see how difficult Wexford found in tracking his runs and so much of our threat stemmed from his forays from the half back line .

Heslin is doubtful to play at all this year nevermind been fit for the Laois match . I'd be more worried about our disastrous record in Tullamore in recent years .
Ha, if we were to worry about our disastrous records in grounds, we'd never play a home match again!!!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 14, 2018, 12:55:07 PM
What's up with Heslin?
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Post by: Unison on May 14, 2018, 01:32:04 PM
Although he was named as a sub, Heslin didn't play in the O'Byrne Cup match against Meath yesterday. Without him, maybe..........
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Clubber Lang on May 14, 2018, 02:01:02 PM


Can you tell me any team in the last 10 years came back from a half time scoreline like that away from home in a championship game and went on to win??

Antrim in Portlaoise about three years ago. They were hockeyed next day out.

While it was a thrilling comeback, Wexford losing their best defender to injury helped swing that game hugely. Donie ran riot in the full forward line there after. I wouldn't be too critical of lads who were substituted off as as a collective Laois misfired badly in the opening half. Any one of about 10 lads could have justifiably been substituted. I also wouldn't get carried away praising lads that came on as momentum had shifted and much easier impress when you have the run of things. 

The game will certainly stand to Laois and they will learn from this. Westmeath will be a tough test as they have proved capable of beating every team in Leinster (bar Dublin) in championship these last few years. Egan, Martin, Heslin as already highlighted are excellent players so improving our defensively frailties will be crucial. We cannot afford to offer up the simple scores Wexford were given in that opening half.
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Post by: blueandwhite1 on May 14, 2018, 02:41:18 PM
The game will certainly stand to Laois and they will learn from this. Westmeath will be a tough test as they have proved capable of beating every team in Leinster (bar Dublin) in championship these last few years. Egan, Martin, Heslin as already highlighted are excellent players so improving our defensively frailties will be crucial. We cannot afford to offer up the simple scores Wexford were given in that opening half.

Is it really practical that Laois will learn to track opponents, tackle and to play an effective defensive system in the next 2 weeks? Massive challenge for sure.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Tony on May 14, 2018, 03:35:56 PM
Great result to go down to Wexford and get the win. We didn't make it easy for ourselves but the heart shown was unreal in one of the best comebacks I've ever witnessed. Really enjoyable to follow the lads this year. Everyone is giving their absolute all. Donie, JOL and Colm Begley were my picks of the match. We'll likely see some changes for the Westmeath game. That's a tough one to call.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: The PRO on May 14, 2018, 03:46:29 PM
I wouldn't be too critical of lads who were substituted off as as a collective Laois misfired badly in the opening half. Any one of about 10 lads could have justifiably been substituted. I also wouldn't get carried away praising lads that came on as momentum had shifted and much easier impress when you have the run of things.
A fair point but you'd have to say the first three changes were all very successful. Getting O'Connor back to his best position was important too.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 14, 2018, 08:58:41 PM
Here are John Sugrue's thoughts on the game..
https://www.laoistoday.ie/2018/05/14/sugrue-pays-praises-to-portlaoise-duo-after-remarkable-comeback-win/
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Dave like the tv channel on May 15, 2018, 12:04:52 PM


Can you tell me any team in the last 10 years came back from a half time scoreline like that away from home in a championship game and went on to win??

It'd be rare enough in hurling, let alone football.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 16, 2018, 12:06:00 AM
Well said Colm...



Colm Parkinson: Why do the GAA sell rights to RT… when this is the product they offer?

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Post by: Andy06 on May 16, 2018, 08:34:50 AM
Well said Colm...



Colm Parkinson: Why do the GAA sell rights to RT… when this is the product they offer?

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/colm-parkinson-rte-160136?utm_content=bufferfdc88&utm_medium=Social+organic&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer

The coverage of GAA by the Sunday Game is something that has been utterly atrocious for a long time, and drives me friggin' mental.
The one thing about the GAA you can say is that at least they try different things, too much at times with the constant changing of the hurling leagues and championship. Majority of them are fairly bad (Super 8's) and always money driven but at least they have some sort of fresh thinking.
RTE on the other hand are still delivering up the same old rubbish format that they have for 3 or 4 decades now.

This garbage of showing extended highlights of a game that was on only a few hours earlier followed by yet MORE analysis by a bunch of lads rehashing what was said earlier is just mind numbing!
All the while the other matches are given lip service. Wicklow got their first win in 5 years in the Leinster championship, huge for them and their supporters-2 mins. Carlow have now won a Leinster game in two consecutive years, again huge for them-2 mins. And of course the excitement of the Wexford Laois game-2 mins.
In this day and age, how can the RTE not have some set of decent cameras at those games, like they have chaps there via the radio so just get them to do the full coverage. It is an utter shambles and has been for ages and yet we are being forced to hand over cash for it.

I would love for someone to get the rights and just give it a real good coverage. Sky if they really wanted to could sell it much better with a highlights package during the week,  they could also have the possibility of selection of a different number of live matches on at the same time, something they already do with the soccer. It would blow the pathetic showing RTE throw up out of the water and you would hope result in a raising of the benchmark of how GAA should be covered.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Butch Cassidy on May 16, 2018, 09:00:03 AM
How is the injury situation ahead of the Westmeath game?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 16, 2018, 07:50:19 PM
Well said Colm...



Colm Parkinson: Why do the GAA sell rights to RT… when this is the product they offer?

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/colm-parkinson-rte-160136?utm_content=bufferfdc88&utm_medium=Social+organic&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer

The coverage of GAA by the Sunday Game is something that has been utterly atrocious for a long time, and drives me friggin' mental.
The one thing about the GAA you can say is that at least they try different things, too much at times with the constant changing of the hurling leagues and championship. Majority of them are fairly bad (Super 8's) and always money driven but at least they have some sort of fresh thinking.
RTE on the other hand are still delivering up the same old rubbish format that they have for 3 or 4 decades now.

This garbage of showing extended highlights of a game that was on only a few hours earlier followed by yet MORE analysis by a bunch of lads rehashing what was said earlier is just mind numbing!
All the while the other matches are given lip service. Wicklow got their first win in 5 years in the Leinster championship, huge for them and their supporters-2 mins. Carlow have now won a Leinster game in two consecutive years, again huge for them-2 mins. And of course the excitement of the Wexford Laois game-2 mins.
In this day and age, how can the RTE not have some set of decent cameras at those games, like they have chaps there via the radio so just get them to do the full coverage. It is an utter shambles and has been for ages and yet we are being forced to hand over cash for it.

I would love for someone to get the rights and just give it a real good coverage. Sky if they really wanted to could sell it much better with a highlights package during the week,  they could also have the possibility of selection of a different number of live matches on at the same time, something they already do with the soccer. It would blow the pathetic showing RTE throw up out of the water and you would hope result in a raising of the benchmark of how GAA should be covered.

Agree totally with you Andy, we are far too soft in this country with the likes of RTE. 20 years ago we were getting the same snippets of other games, usually the scores and re-runs of the scores.
Today it's no better, nothing about the setup of the teams, the build-up to scores, etc. Looking at the highlights of Laois v Wexford you got no sense of the atmosphere, the tension during the comeback or the elation of the winners at the end of the game. Terrible coverage of important games for the majority of the country but lots of chat and coverage of the game that most GAA people had already watched that afternoon....
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on May 18, 2018, 11:14:46 AM
Phone was out of action couldnt post for a few days!

I enjoyed that game altough I thought we were very Naive in the first half and we went for goals when we could have got back into the game taking points.

I still had hope at half time just due to the fact I know what spirit is there this year and how we opened them up in the first half.


Benny Carroll and Donoher made a huge difference.


Best players on the day for me were Brody Timmons and  O Loughlin ..Attride was man of the match.

Donoher Carroll and paul kingston were excellent from the bench.

Great to hear the Laois Laois Laois chant back...


I can't wait to go to tullamore I hope we get another good crowd and they are vocal like they were in wexford park!


Laois Abu
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 18, 2018, 12:46:29 PM
A string of key players have walked away from the Westmeath panel whatever is going on up there.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on May 18, 2018, 03:24:13 PM
A string of key players have walked away from the Westmeath panel whatever is going on up there.

Like who?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: justinn on May 18, 2018, 03:40:03 PM
Westmeath have been dealt a massive blow ahead of tomorrow week's Leinster SFC quarter-final against Laois with the withdrawal of vice-captain James Dolan from the squad.

It's understood that Dolan informed manager Colin Kelly that he will spend the summer in Boston after training on Tuesday night, just two days after captaining the Lake County in their O'Byrne Cup final loss to Meath. The Garrycastle wing back has been one of Westmeath's leading performers in recent years and also one of their leading goal-scorers. Agruably his most important goal came in the Leinster SFC semi-final victory over Kildare two years ago.

Dolan will link up with another stalwart Westmeath defender, Kevin Maguire, in Boston. The Caulry clubman hasn't played for his county this year after spending the last few months travelling. The Lake County's defensive options have been further reduced in recent weeks following the decision by Killian Daly to opt out due to work commitments.

Corner back Mark McCallon is struggling to make the Laois game with a shoulder injury, while there are concerns over the fitness of captain and top-scorer John Heslin, who is battling a hip flexor injury.

Heslin's St. Loman's team-mate Paul Sharry hasn't made himself available for selection this season, while Tommy McDaniel has been ruled out for the rest of the year after suffering a horrific facial injury while playing for Castleknock in the Dublin SFC recently.
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Post by: Laoiseabu on May 18, 2018, 09:02:15 PM
Thanks Justinn you saved me a post 👍 That's a lot of key players Westmeath are down . Has to be a good thing for us
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Post by: Laoiseabu on May 18, 2018, 09:03:02 PM
Think midfielder Denis Corroon is unavailable too
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Post by: Unison on May 18, 2018, 11:03:37 PM
I hope this won't give rise to a false sense of security within the Laois setup. After-all, we could just as easily say that we will be without Brendan Quigley, Paul Cahillane, Evan O'Carroll, Conor Meredith, Eoin Lowry, Brian Glynn and Robbie Piggott.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Wexford first in wexford 12th may 6.30pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 18, 2018, 11:11:57 PM
Glynn is fit to return . So he's available for selection again
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on May 22, 2018, 09:09:24 AM
Glynn Donoher Paul Kingston and Benny Carroll will all be pushing for a starting spot on saturday evening!


Double header with Offaly and Wexford in the hurling should ensure a good crowd.

I hope Laois fans get over to support the lads...This could be the first time in quiet a while we win back to back games in Leinster and will cap a fine season if we do.

Westmeath might be down a few players but I still think they are a force and probably close to the second best team in Leinster!

Our record in Tullamore isn't great but I still remember a superb victory against Meath over their a few years back.

I'm looking forward to this game this year and the spirit in the team gives me far more to feel happy about !!!

LAOIS LAOIS LAOIS LAOIS
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: redsetanta on May 22, 2018, 09:20:29 AM
Must be a long time ago. I can't remember beating Meath in Tullamore in recent times. Our record there is terrible.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Tony on May 22, 2018, 09:31:33 AM
Must be a long time ago. I can't remember beating Meath in Tullamore in recent times. Our record there is terrible.
   
No it wasn't a long time ago, it was just a few years ago in the qualifiers, 2012 Round 3. It was a superb win.   

I can't call the Westmeath game. At all. Still, very much looking forward. Going to be a cracking weather day too and the hurling will be interesting. No better place to be than tullamore on Saturday.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on May 22, 2018, 09:31:40 AM
Must be a long time ago. I can't remember beating Meath in Tullamore in recent times. Our record there is terrible.

July 2012 ...1-15 to 1-12 I think....Munnelly had a stormer as did Brendan Quigley we got to the quarter finals that year!

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Andy06 on May 22, 2018, 11:08:34 AM
Must be a long time ago. I can't remember beating Meath in Tullamore in recent times. Our record there is terrible.

July 2012 ...1-15 to 1-12 I think....Munnelly had a stormer as did Brendan Quigley we got to the quarter finals that year!



Was racking my brain trying to think of the game as it wasnt registering, remember it now. Was round 4 of the qualifiers i think, they had just lost the Leinster Final to Dublin and we were flying that day from what i recall. Let them back into it after being something like 8 points up at one stage in the second half.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Butch Cassidy on May 22, 2018, 11:24:54 AM
Can we expect any changes to the team lads? I can see Paul Kingston, Donogher, Booth and Evan pushing to start
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Post by: BallyroanAbu on May 22, 2018, 11:46:51 AM

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I can't call the Westmeath game. At all. Still, very much looking forward. Going to be a cracking weather day too and the hurling will be interesting. No better place to be than tullamore on Saturday.
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Itís right up there in the Condť Nast destinations for 2018 8)
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Tony on May 22, 2018, 11:54:20 AM
I've just realised that the Wex Offlaly game is at 7pm, after our game, clashing with the Liverpool VS R.Madrid champions league final at 7.45. Why didn't some bright spark in GAA make our game for 3pm and Wex Offaly for 5pm? People can have an interest in Gaelic football, hurling AND soccer too - that is possible you know.  ::)
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 22, 2018, 12:22:41 PM
A few friends of mine in Westmeath are telling me there is a big rumour circulating around the county that their manager is gone
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: les Antiques on May 22, 2018, 12:26:20 PM
Yes heard that too . Left training half way through after announcing his resignation . This means by all accounts that Heslin will start Saturday ..
Still think we ll take them . There preparation can't have been ideal . A first half performance though like the one down in Wexford won't suffice this time .
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: les Antiques on May 22, 2018, 12:29:58 PM
I've just realised that the Wex Offlaly game is at 7pm, after our game, clashing with the Liverpool VS R.Madrid champions league final at 7.45. Why didn't some bright spark in GAA make our game for 3pm and Wex Offaly for 5pm? People can have an interest in Gaelic football, hurling AND soccer too - that is possible you know.  ::)

Silly from HQ . Can't imagine any record crowds at the Tipp and cork and Down and Antrim either , both which start at 7pm also . Surely there were other options !
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on May 22, 2018, 12:32:05 PM
Yes Heaslin will now be playing .....Would have been better for us if the manager had to have stayed in place by all accounts!!

They will probably be lifted by this as a squad now!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Unison on May 22, 2018, 12:32:53 PM
I hope Colin Kelly is not gone. He seems to have spread disharmony there. A new manager would give them a boost.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 22, 2018, 12:34:52 PM
Does this mean some of the players that left the panel last week may decide to return now?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: les Antiques on May 22, 2018, 12:36:49 PM
Well I do know heslin wasn't playing by choice so his return will lift them . Not sure about Dolan and the others .
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on May 22, 2018, 01:07:33 PM
Why can't we ever get lucky....To play a Westmeath without Heslin or a Kildare without Flynn they always miss other games but we never get a break!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Uisce on May 22, 2018, 03:30:47 PM
Westmeath GAA Twitter account just tweeted an interview with Kelly about this weekends game so couldn't imagine he's no longer involved!  ;)
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: justinn on May 22, 2018, 07:08:44 PM
As we look forward to this weekends big game Westmeath are battling with injuries and absentees ahead of Saturdayís Leinster SFC clash with Laois in Tullamore, but manager Colin Kelly is in confident mode his side will give a good account of themselves.

Kelly is without talented wing back James Dolan, who is playing football in Boston for the summer months, while team captain John Heslin is battling with a hip injury ahead of Saturdayís big game. Despite these setbacks, itís all systems go for the Lake County.



ďJames Dolanís loss is a big blow and John Heslin is battling with that hip flexor injury, but we have a strong panel and the players are really looing forward to what is a big test against Laois. I have every confidence in the squad and the players will not be found wanting for effort. Iím looking forward to what should be a good contest,Ē said Kelly.
Westmeath will welcome back the likes of Darragh Daly and Denis Corroon which will seriously boost their strength at midfield, while Ger Egan, Kieran Martin, Callum McCormack and Jamie Gonoud are seasoned campaigners at this level.

Saturdayís midlands derby has a 5pm throw-in time and it is, of course, a repeat of the 2004 Leinster final, in which Westmeath triumphed after a replay.

 

Best of luck lads!!

#WestmeathGaa #IarmhiAbu

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Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 23, 2018, 08:52:09 AM
https://www.laoistoday.ie/2018/05/23/sugrue-delighted-with-role-of-natural-ball-player-brody/
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on May 24, 2018, 04:41:16 PM
Can't wait for Saturday to come really has a big championship feel to it

I'm going for a starting team of the following


Brody
Attride
Timmons
Dillion
Collins
Begley
Strong
O'Loughlin
Lillis
Farrell
P Kingston
B Carroll
G Walsh
D Kingston
R Munnelly

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 24, 2018, 05:23:50 PM
I would stick Evan in there if he's fit enough to start..
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: redsetanta on May 24, 2018, 10:06:09 PM
Team named. OíConnor and Crowley in along with P Kingston. No start for Walsh.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 24, 2018, 10:43:31 PM
O Connor started the last day sure . Crowley , Carroll and P Kingston come in. Any word on a Westmeath 15?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 25, 2018, 12:29:22 AM

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Don Draper on May 25, 2018, 08:38:03 AM
O Connor started the last day sure . Crowley , Carroll and P Kingston come in. Any word on a Westmeath 15?
It sure they even have 15
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: The PRO on May 25, 2018, 10:58:01 AM
Have to say I'm surprised at both wing forwards.
I'd prefer O'Connor in the backs.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: redsetanta on May 25, 2018, 12:35:25 PM
Conway, Evan O'Carroll, Strong, Walsh to come on if things aren't clicking and scores required.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 25, 2018, 07:10:05 PM
Who would have thought we'd have a strong bench like that come championship time...
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 25, 2018, 10:05:00 PM
No Heslin for Westmeath
http://hoganstand.com/Laois/article/index/285616?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Jd on May 25, 2018, 10:52:02 PM
I reckon Donoher a bit unlucky not to start. Was involved in so much last time out. Maybe management feel he's only able for half an hour ?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: redsetanta on May 25, 2018, 11:29:38 PM
Great option from the bench though. Full of energy and running, not what a back would want late in a game.
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Post by: on the hop on May 26, 2018, 12:10:46 AM
wary enough their forwards, especially loughlin in the corner, he caused us a lot of problems twice this year, very fast.
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Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 26, 2018, 01:47:30 PM
Best of luck today lads ...



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https://www.laoistoday.ie/2018/05/26/your-guide-to-the-laoiss-leinster-football-quarter-final-against-westmeath/
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Helix on May 26, 2018, 06:43:54 PM
 Great win! Well done lads. A day out in Croker against the Lillies probably.  :)
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Joeythelips on May 26, 2018, 06:54:36 PM
Well done to players and management, hard to get full picture listening to live stream but after a slow start (again) Laois put in another dominant second half, 4-13 is some scoring in fairness. Was surprised when I heard is our first time to put back to back wins in Leinster in 12 years so after winning Div 4 title its nothing to be sniffed at. It means Laois are well prepared and will have no excuses going up to Croker where Kildare or Carlow will stand in their way of a Leinster Final appearance. I expect Kildare to edge out Carlow (just) which would make them favs against Laois in Croker. Its a perfect next step test for our lads as Kildare are a Div 2 team, who although lost all their league games they were playing the likes of Dublin, Monaghan, Kerry and Galway so no doubt about it its a step up for us after beating Wexford and Westmeath. Our two wins and in particular our second half displays will give our lads great confidence and they will not fear them.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: CruiseCigar on May 26, 2018, 10:32:48 PM
Well done to lapis today. Great effort and some progress in the championship
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: BallyroanAbu on May 26, 2018, 10:46:30 PM
Well done Laois, we are now in bonus territory.  It's up 2 or 3 levels now playing Kildare but two wins and a promotion we have had a good year.  I don't hold out much hope playing Kildare but we have improved out of sight since last year.  I would most certainly fear them,  Laois have had 5 or 6 years of messing about. It is completely unrealistic to expect us to beat Kildare who have been an upward curve over the last 3 years they may have been relegated but they are 2 or 3 years ahead of us.  They are a decent team.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 26, 2018, 11:40:03 PM
Kildare beat us by 14/15 points last summer . So what would be considered a result against Kildare that would suggest progress? How close do we need to run them ?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: BallyroanAbu on May 26, 2018, 11:47:31 PM
Lets see how they go against Carlow, but my guess is 5 or better.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 27, 2018, 12:25:42 AM
Strange game today, we started well but couldn't put scores on the board. A good few chances fell to Donie and Ross but unusually they were either blocked down or kicked wide by our two most experienced forwards. Jonno was doing very little and Begley wasn't making his usual impact and we fell behind playing poorly with a strong wind in our backs.
The man to step up was Lillis and he was winning great ball and working very hard off the ball. Niall Donoher replaced Alan Farrell after 20 mins and made a huge difference with his pace and his passing.

After 30 mins John Connellan pulled down Gareth Dillon who had really come into the game and got a black card. After that incident Laois upped the pace and played at a much higher level for the rest of the game. It was a great display in the end and Paul Kingston took his goals very well with Evan tormenting them with his runs up the left wing.
If we can get into the game a little earlier we can give the next game in Croker a good rattle and who knows, we might even reach a Leinster final....

We have now won 9 games in a row and this is the biggest win over Westmeath since 1991.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: on the hop on May 27, 2018, 12:28:20 AM
Great win tonight, wasn't expecting it but we punished them with goals which knocked the stuffing out of them. Really took a while to get going with the wind in the first time. The 8 to 1 run of points made a big difference. It was no coincidence that niall donaghers introduction improved the forward play. The second half after a slow start we managed to get on top. Both teams got 7 scores we managed 4-3 while they got 1-6. They ran out of steam completely by the end. Brody was ok, not much to do but we still conceded another terrible goal and he gifted them another score. Dillon after slow start was very good. Not Timmons best game, conceded a few scores to his direct opponent. Attride eventually got into it. Half back line was ok, Egan caused problems early on and I still think Crowley though very game is still a bit on the light side. Begley was motm. Drove the team forward. Midfield finally got on top especially Lillis,  jol had his problems with daly until he went off. In the forwards Paul Kingston finished great and was very dangerous when he went full forward.ross and Farrell were poor while carroll and o Connor were average. Donie mixed a bit of everything. I thought the subs came on did ok, strong and Evan were the best of them. Certainly the forwards are far more effective when they use their pace and go direct. Interesting to see who we face.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 27, 2018, 09:46:45 AM
Lots of talking points after last night's win

https://www.laoistoday.ie/2018/05/27/eight-talking-points-as-laois-reach-first-leinster-semi-final-in-a-decade/
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Unison on May 27, 2018, 10:30:51 AM
A talking point for me was that Laois supporters seemed to outnumber opposition supporters, for once.

My men of the match would be Begley, Lillis and Paul Kingston.

I know it would be a huge step forward, but a Leinster final appearance would be a fantastic achievement. Is it out of the question?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: High Fielder on May 27, 2018, 10:51:32 AM
Sugrue has brought commitment and honesty. We've waited years to see that. I'm not saying we're going to tear up trees, but we're improving and we're working hard. It makes the game look very simple when you have lads prepared to work for each other and get their hands dirty. Paul Kingston has kicked on a few levels on recent years, so man management is obviously a high priority too. Gareth Dillon was like a terrier in the tackle yesterday and was everything you'd want a corner back to be. What Kieran Lillis lacks in finesse he more than makes up for with guts and determination and you need that too. Just three players and three examples of Sugrue zoning in on personal traits and getting what he can from them. I couldn't ask for any more and I've seen enough to say we've at last found a coach we can believe in. Hopefully more lads will make themselves available and buy into what this man is trying to do. 
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Andy06 on May 27, 2018, 11:38:38 AM
Well done to the team and management on a great win.
Westmeath were getting the early scores but right from the early stages I thought we were having the majority of possession but just over doing it when it came to the final pass or shot. This could have easily led to being another one of those days but all credit to the players they stuck at it. As they game wore on they found the scores their overall play deserved.
All the players had their moments but a few I felt made a big difference:
Niall Donoher - him coming of the bench immediately brought an increase of pace to the game. He seemed to be hoovering all around the middle and kicked two great points to set us on our way. You would assume he would be starting the next day, although a super option off the bench.
O'Loughlin/Lillis - After the initial phase they two lads dominated midfield for me, Westmeath couldnt get anything going here at all and it stopped them mounting any sort of comeback.
Gareth Dillon - thought this chap was brilliant, one steal of possession near our goals in the second half when he was left one on one with the Westmeath attacker (Luke Loughlin I think) was absolute joy to behold. He looks a proper corner back who knows how to defend, something we havent had since Healy.
Finbarr Crowley - I thought he showed very well for his debut, especially being stuck with Kieran Martin. He always kept going and definately made that position his own for the next day.
Donie - didn't do a whole lot with some promising balls into him in the first half. However, when the game was potentially still in the melting pot in the second half he moved to midfield and won some great kick outs. Also some of his distribution from the half forward position (including a great pass which Darren Strong hit a bad wide) was very good.
Paul Kingston - Goals were fantasically taken, you can see the confidence brimming by the end

As I said all players and subs played their part though, what a bench we have now.
Word on Westmeath aswell, I thought they were really poor. No sort of fight at any point in the second half as we just passed or sprinted through them. Dont think we were too far away with our assumption that the camp is not a happy one.

Bonus territory now as far as I am concerned. Promotion and a possible win over Wexford and Westmeath was the aim. Players can just go out now with no expectation, give it a shot and see what happens. Id imagine Sugrue is the sort that cant wait for the challenge against what would be on paper a better team to see how we can outfox them
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Jd on May 27, 2018, 12:40:11 PM
Was reading Tomŗs O Shea in Indo yesterday and Kildare haven't won a match in something like last 11. If they beat Carlow I reckon they could be vulnerable. A huge step up for our lads but they're eager to step up by the looks of things. If Carlow win well we know that we have the ability to beat them once the attitude is right. Nice to be going to Croke Park in June no matter who we play though
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Joeythelips on May 27, 2018, 02:52:48 PM
I may have jumped the gun a bit, Carlow leading by 5 points at half time. With their defensive approach it will be really hard for Kildare to reel that in. If it Carlow we face that would be some battle, I think Croker would suit Laois better if it was Carlow.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: BallyroanAbu on May 27, 2018, 02:59:57 PM
I may have jumped the gun a bit, Carlow leading by 5 points at half time. With their defensive approach it will be really hard for Kildare to reel that in. If it Carlow we face that would be some battle, I think Croker would suit Laois better if it was Carlow.

likewise, never even contemplated Carlow and thatís because I have seen them. 
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Keyser SŲze on May 27, 2018, 03:30:27 PM
Sugrue has brought commitment and honesty. We've waited years to see that.

And in truth it is all any of us wanted.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Unison on May 27, 2018, 03:44:21 PM
 Carlow won't fear us.  :o :o
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 27, 2018, 03:53:46 PM
Carlow will be very hard to beat in Croke Park. They know how we play and will be more than ready to play us. They will have huge desire to get to a leinster final so write them off at your peril.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Joeythelips on May 27, 2018, 03:54:29 PM
Carlow won't fear us.  :o :o

Why should they fear us, I know we beat them in the Div 4 league final but its not like we have hammered them and after wiping the floor with Louth they beat a Div 1 side. The whole county will be buzzing and they will never have a better opportunity to reach a Leinster final, but that goes for Laois also.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Unison on May 27, 2018, 04:09:50 PM
I think I would have preferred to play a vulnerable Kildare team.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 27, 2018, 04:24:15 PM
If we beat Carlow are we in Super 8s?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Unison on May 27, 2018, 04:29:13 PM
No. I think the losers of the provincial finals would have to beat one of the teams from the qualifiers to reach the super 8s.

At this point, it is no longer a question of are we good enough, as it would have been if we were to play Kildare. We are good enough to win the semi final, but the question now is can we halt the Carlow momentum. They will be thinking 'third time lucky'.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 27, 2018, 04:58:43 PM
What a time to be alive 💪💪
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: High Fielder on May 27, 2018, 05:05:55 PM
I love that none of us know what the f**k happens next. Absolute nose bleed territory
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Helix on May 27, 2018, 05:30:35 PM
Carlow won't fear us.  :o :o

And we wonít fear Carlow. Improving every game and get a faster start than last 2 games. Drive it on now. Hopefully bring a big crowd to Croker like the good days  :)
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Tony on May 27, 2018, 07:10:52 PM
I think it's very very important that we get a good start against carlow. Their whole game is getting the lead and then dictating the play by being ultra defensive. It's horrible to watch but in fairness it's been very effective for them and in fairness it's nice to see a new leinster county emerge from the doldrums, local rivalry or not. Fair play to them. Beating kildare (a decent side) by 7 points is no mean achievement.

Having said all that, we're seeing huge positives in Laois this year. Great commitment, heart, desire, and we have a proper setup, the first since mcnulty, in my opinion. This one is generating a great feeling around the county, and there's a buzz back that's being missing since 07 or so. We know we can beat carlow but we can't get complacent. We're two very on form teams. My head and heart says Laois will win in the big spaces of croke park though.

A promotion and 2 good wins in leinster, and already it's been a successful year, no matter what happens next. That's the best part, and if we keep going the way we are, who knows where we'll end up. It's all a bonus from here. Fair play and thanks to all involved for creating a great buzz around football in Laois this year. Looking forward to croker in June!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Jd on May 27, 2018, 07:23:25 PM
And there I was giving out about the club championship being on hold till August...... Wouldn't it be great if we had to put it off for a while longer to facilitate the county team😊😊
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: redsetanta on May 27, 2018, 08:37:04 PM
What odds on Laois Carlow and Longford in Leinster semiís at start of championship. Be some day in Crocker for all three counties.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: BallyroanAbu on May 27, 2018, 09:46:42 PM
What odds on Laois Carlow and Longford in Leinster semiís at start of championship. Be some day in Crocker for all three counties.

Not as mad as you might think rough estimate 124/1

Kildare was the real upset

Well done Laois they worked hard and while Carlow have to be respected they are no where near the anticipated challenge of a decent Kildare outfit.

We will be favorites.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Don Draper on May 27, 2018, 09:51:48 PM
Carlow won't fear us.  :o :o
Deep down, in places they donít like to talk about at parties, they know. They know. Respect them but by f**k donít fear Carlow.

Bring it f**king on
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: ILikeStrawberryJam on May 27, 2018, 10:39:38 PM
Tactically all over the shop at the start. Long balls into donie that werent working and refusing to kick from the 45 despite a gale force wind behind them. But sugrue brought on donoher and the game began to turn.
Dillonreally grew into the game after a ropey start but hes still not a natural corner back .half back line were very good led by Begley. Llliis showed great leadership. Jol was ok.
Donie did well when he went to chf catching some good ball and kicking it in intelligently to paul.
Ross wasnt at his best but didnt have to be.
Brody was annoying me with the the pointless forays up the pitch in the 2nd half.  The odd time it makes sense but he was acting the gobshite i the 2nd half half, ended up getting booked.

Good subs off the bench. Evan pace is a great weapon.

Timmons and attride injuries a worry..
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 28, 2018, 12:23:34 AM
does anyone on this forum think we could beat Dublin if we get over Carlow ?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: redsetanta on May 28, 2018, 12:31:48 AM
Do you?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 28, 2018, 12:42:07 AM
I asked you first ?😂😂
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: on the hop on May 28, 2018, 01:07:54 AM
Try get there first. Dublin are on a completely different level at present
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Laoiseabu on May 28, 2018, 01:10:21 AM
For my own personal entertainment could anyone go about arranging Robert Pigott and Brendan Murphy coming back for the semi final ?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 28, 2018, 01:16:13 AM
Beat Carlow, lose to Dublin and one win in the qualifiers will get us into the Super 8s. Would only have dreamed about this at the start of the year. Well done all concerned.
Any word on Paul Cahillane...
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: BallyroanAbu on May 28, 2018, 08:33:24 AM
, if you are feeling lucky Laois are 33/1 to win Leinster
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: OTF on May 28, 2018, 10:35:22 AM
Another good win and a big score 4 goals ??  although id say  Paul was marginally offside for the first  ;D
seriously  wtf were  Westmeath  at.

Carlow have definitely come on a lot since the div. 4 final we'll earn it against them this time.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: High Fielder on May 28, 2018, 10:38:57 AM
We're in bonus territory right now. A Leinster final would be great but we can't let that define our season because we've already made progress. For me, the real bonus has been watching the improvement in lads and how that relates to the team. It is clear already that Sugrue is capable of getting the best out of certain lads, and I have no doubt that if lads are prepared to put in the work, both they and Laois will be rewarded. For too long in Laois, positions have been given to lads because it looked like the right thing to do. But give me work and commitment over style and individuality any day. There are good footballers in Laois and plenty of them on the Under 20 team tonight. The sooner they are under the eye of Sugrue the better in my opinion. Any young lad who wants to represent Laois and play a better standard of football should be itiching to get into this set up.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: OTF on May 28, 2018, 10:42:20 AM
Beat Carlow, lose to Dublin and one win in the qualifiers will get us into the Super 8s. Would only have dreamed about this at the start of the year. Well done all concerned.
Any word on Paul Cahillane...

Just looking at the fixtures there.
Leinster final on 24th June and the AQF's  on 14/15 July some 3 weeks later.
 Looks like the beaten finalist will be out again the following week would that be correct, if so imo reaching the LF against Dublin wouldn't be much of a bargain.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: redsetanta on May 28, 2018, 10:44:16 AM
Carlow have definately improved. Big score against Louth and again yesterday. They are breaking records this year and considering they lost Brendan Murphy you can't but be impressed. In saying that we're motoring along nicely too. Their key man is Broderick and he couldn't score in the league final so he needs to be kept quiet again. They must be very high on confidence.

Sets it up for what will be a right duel in Croke Park
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: redsetanta on May 28, 2018, 10:47:56 AM
There was a rule brought in where beaten provincial finalists get two weeks. No quarter finaln anyhow as you're a the 'Super 8' stage then. 4 provincial winners plus 4 qualifiers.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: on the hop on May 28, 2018, 11:44:06 AM
Nipped into the Kildare forum, it seems that Carlow really put it up to them physically on and off the ball and there was a lot of sledging. The real bile is for poacher who appears to have really annoyed them with his antics. I would expect we will get more of the same from them.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: OTF on May 28, 2018, 12:41:01 PM
There was a rule brought in where beaten provincial finalists get two weeks. No quarter finaln anyhow as you're a the 'Super 8' stage then. 4 provincial winners plus 4 qualifiers.

Do the top 4 go into the semi's   ??
 I'm looking at the premium ticket schedule ( provisional ) and the AQF's are listed for the 14th and 15th of July. 
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: redsetanta on May 28, 2018, 12:48:16 PM
As far as I know it's 2 groups of 4 with top two in each group going to semi finals.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: OTF on May 28, 2018, 01:02:13 PM
As far as I know it's 2 groups of 4 with top two in each group going to semi finals.

That's correct, each team gets a home game an away game and a game in CP  so they'll probable use the the 14 and 15 of july for big CP games.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: The PRO on May 28, 2018, 01:21:54 PM
https://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/gaelic-games/315438/big-match-review-our-look-back-at-laois-win-over-westmeath.html

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: redsetanta on May 28, 2018, 04:11:57 PM
They're going fairly ballistic on the Kildare forum alright. They didn't see that coming in fairness even with the poor run of results.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Joeythelips on May 28, 2018, 05:39:43 PM
An awful lot of talk about how poor Kildare were and how far they have fallen, but its a great sign of the set up and system a team have in place that they can lose the likes of Murphy and still be in the position they are. Hats off to Carlow, they have a system in place and everyone has bought into it. I watched them last year against Dublin and they gave Dublin plenty of it. I know the Dubs won comfortably but there was just 4 points in it until Murphy got sent off which was them death nail for them. 

In fairness to Sugrue he has a similar set up in that where players really seem to be buying into, even listening to his comments when the reporter was trying to talk about Kingstons hat trick he said he did not care who scored. Also he is decisive and not afraid to make early substitutions.  Also its very good sign that Laois are finishing games strongly, if we can get the start right we will take beating.

I know some posters are saying 'sure we have no chance against dubs if we win' or 'we will be out a week later if we lose the Leinster final so beating Carlow is pointless', not exact quotes but this type of mentality. One poster has it right when he/she said they could not have dreamt of a situation where we could be one step away from the Super 8s. This is what the championship is about, Laois and Carlow players will be going hell for leather in a championship game in Croker, what more could you ask for. The winners will most likely play Dublin in the final, another big day out in Croker for either Laois or Carlow where they will be expected to be beaten easily. This is what the players slogged their guts out since the end of last year for. Both counties have already gained promotion in the league and 2 scalps in Leinster so 2018 has been huge progress for both. After the semi final its bonus territory for the winner.

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Laoisguy on May 28, 2018, 09:16:24 PM
For the record

I really hope we can turnover Carlow again just to experience another Sugrue v poacher handshake

Some p***k on the line in fairness and players have bought into this behaviour to achieve results

Nasty system
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Joeythelips on May 28, 2018, 10:36:39 PM
Seen the fixture dates on Laois today site:

June 10 Ė Leinster SFC Semi-final
June 23 Ė Round 2 Qualifier
June 24 Ė Leinster SFC Final
June 30 Ė Round 3 Qualifier
July 7/8 Ė Round 4 Qualifier
July 14/15 Ė Super 8 Round 1
July 21/22 Ė Super 8 Round 2
August 4/5 Ė Super 8 Round 3


According to the article the losers of the Leinster Final will be in round 4 of the qualifiers, so there will be 2 weeks to get ready.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: O moore parklife on May 28, 2018, 11:17:51 PM
Great weekend for laois, john but for the player's the most demons exercised in tullamore.
From a source within the carlow squad a good amount of them have a pain in there faces with the poacher self proclaimed messiah horse shit.
Still think we have more to overcome them in croker.
Onwards and upwards great year irrespective all bonus territory now
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on May 29, 2018, 05:50:10 AM
Carlow took defeat badly the last day ...i anticipate a fairly feisty encounter
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Don Draper on May 29, 2018, 07:15:52 AM
Revenge for Danny.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: maccer on May 29, 2018, 07:31:12 AM
Seemingly Poachers behaviour on Sun was disgraceful. Openly running around the pitch sledging the kildare lads. What's the point in the GAA supposedly cracking down on players sledging each other if they allow this carry on. I know Carlow are currently flavour of the month (and they deserve huge credit) but surely authorities won't want to see this on a big day in Croker.
Although a part of me would like to see him try and sledge 'Psycho'. St John's ambulance boys would be busy
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: BallyroanAbu on May 29, 2018, 07:37:32 AM
In fairness Carlow GAA had nothing to do with Danny,  sledging welcome to big boys football only one way to get round it and thatís on the scoreboard.  Whining about it means you lost, winners could not care less.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: High Fielder on May 29, 2018, 08:17:37 AM
Just get someone to stand within 10 yards of him and run on with the bottle every time he makes his move. Any funny stuff make a big scene and get them both sent off. Big distraction. Problem solved. Let's play ball
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Unlaoised on May 29, 2018, 10:10:28 AM
Just get someone to stand within 10 yards of him and run on with the bottle every time he makes his move. Any funny stuff make a big scene and get them both sent off. Big distraction. Problem solved. Let's play ball

Love that Idea ...I'm willing to do it if I'm asked :-) !!! ;D
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Unlaoised on May 29, 2018, 11:06:39 AM
Anyway here's my ratings for last saturday's game!

Only an opinion and I know all these lads give great commitment to the blue and white and I respect every one of them game time or not!

Brody-7.5 One or two uncharacteristic kickouts in the first half when the team as a whole weren't functioning well but he changed the tone of the game with two runs forward that created two scores at a vital time for Laois.His kickouts in the second half were better but helped by the Westmeath number 9 being gone!

Attride -8 Slow enough to start like so many but was still tight on his man who was dangerous.Had a great second half with two superb blocks when it was in the melting pot he is a great player who you'd love in your team.

Timmons -6.5 Not often Mark gets over shadowed by his two corner backs but he must be glad of the unit with him now.He did okay for the most part growing into the game but was troubled in spells .Still solid for the most part and our best back for the last 6-7 years.

Dillion -8.5 Started a bit on the nervous side but after he won his first ball on the terrace side that was him in the game he gave a terrific display of tackling and chasing his man .Countless times he won the ball back for Laois and the crowd responded in kind he has been a revelation under the new manager!

Collins -7 was quiet in the first half and was caught out of position a few times as well as giving away the ball once or twice but once he settled down he had a n excellent game scoring a superb point just before half time to give Laois great momentum.

Begley -9 I thought he was superb all through the game I can't understand why he hasn't been our number six for years its really his best position!Great score before half time his passes for Paul Kingston's two goals were a joy to watch .Needs to improve a little on tackling if i'm going be very critical :-)

Crowley-7 Certainly was better on 'Martin' than in the O'Byrne cup when he was destroyed Caught two great balls and grew into the game certainly will be pushing for a starting birth again the next day

Lillis -9.5  My man of the match(If Paul hadn't to have scored 3) I thought he was superb in all aspects of the game his passing was good he covered so many yards and what he lacks in pace he makes up for in intelligence just so composed he really has found his position at county level

O Loughlin -8 would have got 9 but from the fact the number 9 ran away from him a few times in the first half he graduallly wore him down and a great shoulder or two before half time gave the Laois crowd a great lift and also took the steam away from that number 9.

Farrell -5.5 Scored a point but wasn't involved much in the game did pick up a few vital breaks in midfield which helped John and Kieran needs to impose himself move as he has all the attributes to play the position he does  replaced early

Paul Kingston -10 Not often you can give a ten but wow what a performance from him even when we were struggling early in the game he was the one forward winning ball.One bad hand pass aside I don't remember him giving away the ball once and his two points were as good as his goals.A truly great showing by a player who I always felt was going to burst onto the scene one day.He did against Longford a few years back but didn't kick on!His time has come!

O'Connor -6 harsh score he did put a lot of effort into the game and tracked runners which is the dirty side that some players don't get credit for I'm not sure half forward is his best position I think he was more useful back defending.Honest lad and great to see him back

Munnelly -6 Ross was on a lot of ball but tended to slow things down to much and got dispossessed numerous times .Hard to be critical of a man that gives so much.solid on the frees especially a difficult one in the first half which was vital.Probably left on a little too long but you just know he will shine the next day!

D Kingston-7 strange game he won some great ball early but nothing came of it.Duncan seem to be dealing with him better tan most, then Westmeath double teamed him.He came out the field in the second half won some great kickouts and his passing is a joy to watch he really is a complete footballer

Carroll -6.5 was intelligent on the ball but getting on to it is his problem he is young and will learn but he seemed to drift into positions where he didn't want a pass and he lost a few 50/50s .No doubt he has talent and his work rate was good in the first half when Laois were under pressure.#moretocome

SUBS

Donoher-8 was superb when he came in kicking two great points at the most crucial time in the game showed real leadership on the ball and delighted for him.Not slowing down either which at his age is great to see.

E O'Carroll -7.5 Was very strong when he came on and got 1-1 from play in 14 minutes ...Looked really dangerous and his direct soloing would cause any team problems maybe the bench suits the likes of him and Donoher all tho I'm sure he would love to start.

Strong -7 Composed on the ball did miss a scoring opportunity but looks in good shape and hungry to get involved.

Conway -7 Won a great ball to set up Laois's last goal was very unselfish with the pass which for a sub trying to make an impact shows how committed he is to the LAOIS  cause

Nerney Booth and Walsh were all on Late but all played their part especially Walsh getting back on the score board!

Overall it was a pleasing day for Laois football when so many things went right I wouldn't get carried away and Carlow will be stubborn opposition in Croker thats for sure but the change this year is incredible you'd wonder what things would have been like if Sugure had taken the job 4/5 years ago???

One thing that was really noticeable was the size of the Laois support it was incredible to see and must have given the players a huge boost!


LAOIS LAOIS LAOIS!!!!







Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Joeythelips on May 29, 2018, 11:09:07 AM
In fairness Carlow GAA had nothing to do with Danny,  sledging welcome to big boys football only one way to get round it and thatís on the scoreboard. Whining about it means you lost, winners could not care less.

Thats exactly right, teams like Galway and Tyrone are always at this carry on. The sole purpose of it is to distract players so they don't perform at their best. As with any sort of bull like this the best response is always to beat them on the score board.

Also take a look at Brendan Murphys twitter post after the league final https://twitter.com/BrendanMurphy17?lang=en (https://twitter.com/BrendanMurphy17?lang=en) about Pigott. I would not be surprised one bit if he made a return from the states, I reckon Carlow will use stuff like this as motivation and try and make it a super physical game and intimidate our lads. If we don't get sucked into that bullshit and concentrate on football we have the better players.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship (Westmeath next inTullamore 26th May at 5pm)
Post by: Laoisguy on May 29, 2018, 11:24:47 AM
In fairness Carlow GAA had nothing to do with Danny,  sledging welcome to big boys football only one way to get round it and thatís on the scoreboard. Whining about it means you lost, winners could not care less.

Thats exactly right, teams like Galway and Tyrone are always at this carry on. The sole purpose of it is to distract players so they don't perform at their best. As with any sort of bull like this the best response is always to beat them on the score board.

Also take a look at Brendan Murphys twitter post after the league final https://twitter.com/BrendanMurphy17?lang=en (https://twitter.com/BrendanMurphy17?lang=en) about Pigott. I would not be surprised one bit if he made a return from the states, I reckon Carlow will use stuff like this as motivation and try and make it a super physical game and intimidate our lads. If we don't get sucked into that bullshit and concentrate on football we have the better players.


Fair enough but its still shit
Carlow will be looking for that angle right from start and im still very wary of Carlow going 3-4 points in front
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Laois fan on May 29, 2018, 02:30:58 PM
I presume murphy is signed to a team in the states
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Don Draper on May 30, 2018, 08:31:59 AM
I presume murphy is signed to a team in the states
He is.

I'd love to hear what Turlough O Brien has to say about the Kildare game, does anyone know if he plans on speaking in the media at any point?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Tony on May 30, 2018, 11:28:26 AM
He already has, he had a big interview with Wolly Parkinson on his podcast. The podcast is good otherwise as well, as it discusses Laois' good form this year:   https://soundcloud.com/sportsjoe-gaa-hour/laois-rising-longford-rising-carlow-rising-inc-turlough-obrien-interview

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Don Draper on May 30, 2018, 11:43:50 AM
He already has, he had a big interview with Wolly Parkinson on his podcast. The podcast is good otherwise as well, as it discusses Laois' good form this year:   https://soundcloud.com/sportsjoe-gaa-hour/laois-rising-longford-rising-carlow-rising-inc-turlough-obrien-interview
Reread it for sarcasm. He's been on every media outlet for the past 3 days. Its perfect, soak it in boys.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Tony on May 30, 2018, 12:08:43 PM
They deserve the spotlight and plaudits, it's been a long time coming. I wouldn't begrudge them some time in the sun to be honest. Until the 10th of June that is.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Faugheen on May 30, 2018, 12:53:57 PM
http://www.offtheball.com/podcasts/Off_The_Ball/GAA_on_Off_The_Ball/62260/Turlough_OBrien_on_CarlowRising_and_what_lies_ahead
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Joeythelips on May 30, 2018, 01:49:35 PM
I agree Tony, I read Philip Jordan's article on the RTE site and he summed it up well https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0529/966850-enjoyment-overriding-the-fear-in-carlows-rise/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0529/966850-enjoyment-overriding-the-fear-in-carlows-rise/).

Carlow may not play the best brand of football or may have some unsavoury tactics but they have worked really hard to make a name for themselves these past couple of years after an eternity of failure. Seeing them invade the pitch after beating a fancied Kildare team was great to watch. Like many on this forum i remember the joy of watching our minors win All Irelands and winning the Leinster under Micko, so its great to see counties get that winning feeling.

Most people outside the counties (and some in them) will simply say well what does it matter as neither will have a chance against the Dubs, but the chance to play the Dubs in Croker on Leinster final day, and even if the do lose the chance to play another big game two weeks later with the carrot of the Supers 8s awaiting the winner (including brining one of the games to Portlaoise) is what these players have sacrificed so much for. Fair enough if they meet the Dubs it will have an air of inevitability (as it would for all bar a couple of counties) about it but the Carlow game will certainly not, and depending on who they get neither would a Round 4 qualifier game. They will be huge occasions for our players and I'd imagine our supporters will be out in force.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on May 30, 2018, 03:28:42 PM
Great read from the Irish Examiner   

https://amp.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/john-divilly/john-sugrue-building-confidence-and-trust-in-laois-471255.html?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: redsetanta on May 30, 2018, 04:11:19 PM
Any odds on Brody scoring a point from play?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Catch and Kick on May 31, 2018, 05:27:15 PM
Great read from the Irish Examiner   

https://amp.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/john-divilly/john-sugrue-building-confidence-and-trust-in-laois-471255.html?__twitter_impression=true

That's one of the best GAA articles I've read in a long time. Some of the forward play in the second half was top drawer stuff and in the space of Croke Park we can expect more.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: BallyroanAbu on May 31, 2018, 10:05:18 PM
Great read from the Irish Examiner   

https://amp.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/john-divilly/john-sugrue-building-confidence-and-trust-in-laois-471255.html?__twitter_impression=true

That's one of the best GAA articles I've read in a long time. Some of the forward play in the second half was top drawer stuff and in the space of Croke Park we can expect more.


Westmeaths defending was chronic which in fairness Laois made hay with.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: portlaoisekid on June 01, 2018, 08:49:15 AM
I'm really happy the what things are going for Laois at the minute, we seem to have a focused, fit and happy camp. Sugrue is doing exactly what Laois need and that's to maximise the talent he has to play with and in this county that's not an easy thing.

We know where we are in the greater scheme of things and certainly are not in the league of the top teams but Laois football is in as good a place as it has been in a long time .

As for the Carlow match ,I really think croke park will bring us on further and whilst it wont be easy I think we will beat Carlow and a Leinster final appearance would be great . Carlow and there mgt team will have themselves worn out with media/social media duties  by the time the match comes around, all pressure is on them now. We are coming into this under the radar which suits us perfectly.

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Unlaoised on June 01, 2018, 11:18:28 PM
Great point about Carlow and the media

Turlough asking the Dubs to come in early and support carlow was some laugh out loud moment on cklr yesterday
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 03, 2018, 05:06:27 PM
Lads, the whole of Carlow are on a high at the moment, they beat Laois hurlers yesterday and are now looking at a possible appearance in Croke Park, their soccer team have just won the All-Ireland league (Oscar Traynor Cup) beating Kilkenny 2-1 and they feel everything is going their way.
We would want to be very wary of them next week, when a county gets that kind of momentum behind them they can be very hard to stop...  We have to play as though this is our Leinster final and respect what they can bring or else we could find ourselves being just another one of their conquests..
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Laoiseabu on June 03, 2018, 05:54:53 PM
I'd imagine Carlow will be harder bet than what Westmeath were last week. They mightn't have much quality in the side but by jaysus will they be bursting their bollixes for one another.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Gmac on June 03, 2018, 06:24:09 PM
A good start against Carlow is vital a team that plays like that probably canít come from behind too good and a good start might knock some of the belief out of them bring them back to reality.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 03, 2018, 06:31:56 PM
A good start against Carlow is vital a team that plays like that probably canít come from behind too good and a good start might knock some of the belief out of them bring them back to reality.

Totally agree Gmac, it's very important we get off quickly next week, if Carlow do what Wexford did to us in the first half we could find it very difficult to get back into it. They will bring thousands to that game and they will let themselves be heard. Also if it's close in the last 10 minutes the Dubs will be in and they will give them huge vocal support..
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: on the hop on June 03, 2018, 07:40:13 PM
I think after looking at Fermanagh today we know what we will be facing. Have to take our goal chances but also no reckless shooting. Carlow will bring high energy and look to exploit us on the turn overs. They have played for frees a lot so lazy tackling will have to be cut out. We are under the radar with all the press they are receiving and hopefully they will seen as favourites. Interesting to see if they can execute their blanket defence in croke park
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: blueandwhite1 on June 03, 2018, 09:06:56 PM
The big advantage of a good start against a blanket defence team is that it forces them to come out and play, which screws up their blanket defence. Monaghan couldn't get any sort of a run on Fermanagh today even though they had much better footballers and paid the price.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Tony on June 04, 2018, 04:05:00 PM
John Sugrue interview pre Carlow :
https://m.soundcloud.com/midlandssport/john-sugrue-pre-carlow
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: les Antiques on June 05, 2018, 10:24:30 AM
Interesting to see the Laois starting 15 considering the impact Walsh,Evan and Niall made coming on the last day . I do feel Benny Carroll can be more effective being introduced as sub as he's capable of making an instant impact with his style of play .
Encouragily for us our bench is stronger than Carlow's and that's going to be major factor come Sunday .
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: The PRO on June 05, 2018, 12:00:44 PM
Interesting to see the Laois starting 15 considering the impact Walsh,Evan and Niall made coming on the last day . I do feel Benny Carroll can be more effective being introduced as sub as he's capable of making an instant impact with his style of play .
Encouragily for us our bench is stronger than Carlow's and that's going to be major factor come Sunday .
Yeah the starting 15 will be very important. Vital to get ahead of Carlow early on and make them come out and play a bit less defensively.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: High Fielder on June 05, 2018, 12:59:12 PM
I think it comes down to stopping Murphy in midfield. He's a top of the ground player and their engine. So much of their play stems from him running from deep and he'll be a real pest. Good to watch though. I'd keep the team as it started the last day. Niall is just better coming in when things have settled a little while Gary and Evan need to work harder. Scores are not enough on their own
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Don Draper on June 05, 2018, 01:37:01 PM
Let Murphy run, shadow him, and make him kick it. It would be interesting to see him kick football for the first time, and in Croke Park and all. What a day that would be.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Unlaoised on June 05, 2018, 08:44:22 PM
Let Murphy run, shadow him, and make him kick it. It would be interesting to see him kick football for the first time, and in Croke Park and all. What a day that would be.


Ha ha laugh out loud moment
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: jimbob2 on June 05, 2018, 09:37:28 PM
Michael Carroll passed away this weekend, Brother of the late Lulu, Son of Michael and Angela and Father of Evan May he rest in peace. I hope Evan will go out and do him proud this weekend given the chance if he is up to it.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Unlaoised on June 05, 2018, 10:54:26 PM
Michael Carroll passed away this weekend, Brother of the late Lulu, Son of Michael and Angela and Father of Evan May he rest in peace. I hope Evan will go out and do him proud this weekend given the chance if he is up to it.


That's sad he must have been young
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 06, 2018, 12:31:02 AM
Commiserations to Evan, RIP Michael.

Saw him in Wexford Park a few weeks ago at Laois v Wexford. Didn't think he looked well although its been a while since I saw him before that.
Really hope it wont affect Evan's chances of playing as he is a guy we will need at some stage next Sunday.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 06, 2018, 12:42:03 AM
16 Years of his life dedicated to Laois Football, what a man...




Timmons reveals retirement never crossed his mind despite litany of injuries
https://www.laoistoday.ie/2018/06/05/timmons-reveals-retirement-never-crossed-his-mind-despite-litany-of-injuries (https://www.laoistoday.ie/2018/06/05/timmons-reveals-retirement-never-crossed-his-mind-despite-litany-of-injuries)/
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Unison on June 06, 2018, 09:28:14 AM
What a man is right. Would love to see him appear in a Leinster Final.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Don Draper on June 06, 2018, 10:18:18 AM
What a man is right. Would love to see him appear in a Leinster Final.
The perfect man to fire into the middle of the huddle on Sunday. This means more.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: The PRO on June 07, 2018, 05:02:37 AM
Not enough Carlow coverage at all in the national media, is there? Would be nice to hear a bit more about what their manager thinks. Can't even think of his name,  he's so low profile.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Don Draper on June 07, 2018, 06:13:07 AM
Not enough Carlow coverage at all in the national media, is there? Would be nice to hear a bit more about what their manager thinks. Can't even think of his name,  he's so low profile.
Itís perfect.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Don Draper on June 08, 2018, 01:55:39 PM
Broderick shiteing on in the media yesterday. I couldnt be happier with this being quite honest. It couldnt be nicer. I doubt there's ever been less about a bookies favourite going into a game before. All we need is the players to have their heads screwed on, and we'll win this pulling up.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Unison on June 08, 2018, 02:33:23 PM
Broderick shiteing on in the media yesterday. I couldnt be happier with this being quite honest. It couldnt be nicer. I doubt there's ever been less about a bookies favourite going into a game before. All we need is the players to have their heads screwed on, and we'll win this pulling up.

I hope you are right Don. I wish I could feel so confident.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Don Draper on June 08, 2018, 03:06:47 PM
Broderick shiteing on in the media yesterday. I couldnt be happier with this being quite honest. It couldnt be nicer. I doubt there's ever been less about a bookies favourite going into a game before. All we need is the players to have their heads screwed on, and we'll win this pulling up.

I hope you are right Don. I wish I could feel so confident.
Its not in the Laois DNA to do confidence. Nonetheless, respect them, don't fear them.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Joeythelips on June 08, 2018, 06:55:22 PM
I was listening to someone the other day saying Laois seem to have Carlow's number which makes sense looking at the league. My one worry would be our slow starts in games as if Carlow get a 4 or 5 point lead they would be hard to peg back given their set up. I cant make it home for the game, but at least RTE have decided to show the Dubs semi final  >:(
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Tony on June 08, 2018, 07:38:45 PM
To be honest, i'm glad it's not on TV because it will mean a large crowd from Carlow & Laois show up on the day. It'll make for a great atmosphere. Sometimes when it's on TV, it means it's tempting to just stay at home and watch it on the box. I know I've fallen into that catagory at times in the past. I expect the largest Laois crowd in years to show up for this one - of course nothing like the Micko era yet - but maybe 3.5k supporters or so?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: justinn on June 08, 2018, 09:55:12 PM
Laois: Graham Brody; Stephen Attride, Mark Timmons, Gareth Dillon; Trevor Collins, Colm Begley, Finbarr Crowley; John OíLoughlin, Kieran Lillis; Alan Farrell, Niall Donoher, Damien OíConnor; Ross Munnelly, Donie Kingston, Paul Kingston
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 08, 2018, 11:43:32 PM
Now it starts...Come on Laois!!


Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 09, 2018, 12:39:43 AM
How Carlow Play...

https://www.facebook.com/The42.ie/videos/1859864974075983/
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: portlaoisekid on June 09, 2018, 08:14:42 AM
It's a horrible style of football carlow play and for all the goodwill they receive in the media that will dry up quickly once people actually see them play . Fermangh are being crucified for playing the same style yet you don't see Gallagher on the the Sunday game riding his bicycle taking about how wonderful fermanagh are.

I think laois have enough to beat carlow, we just need to cop the hell on and play
 with total confidence in ourselves. We have to trust we are better than them , which I believe we are. let them talk shite in the media and how great it is to have so many supporters in croke park etc while we actually turn up to play a game of football to win. Put down a marker from the first throw in and we will beat them. Laois by 4+.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Unison on June 09, 2018, 09:32:48 AM
How Carlow Play...

https://www.facebook.com/The42.ie/videos/1859864974075983/

When you see it like that it seems a pretty formidable system of defence, and you wonder will our main scoring threats, the two Kingstons in the full forward line, both be marked out of the game? You also wonder how will we cope with their speedy counter attacks? 

We have played hem twice already and beaten them. So, have they 'upped' their performance now that the championship has begun?

Their wins against Louth and Kildare were two impressive results, so its going to be interesting.

Lets get a good start, or at least, not a bad one!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Tony on June 09, 2018, 10:25:45 AM
I think they've a good system on tight pitches. I think they'll be found out though on the wide open spaces of croke park. It's a very limited system in my opinion. It relies on them getting ahead. If they go 5+ points down, the system is flawed. I think we've a more progressive, flexible system that suits us far better. Kildare played into their hands but i think if we keep cool heads, we can outclass them. Man for man we have the much more talented players with only a couple of exceptions. Also, we have quite a few men who can hit you from range. I don't think the blanket system will work well against us.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Joeythelips on June 09, 2018, 12:48:12 PM
Very harsh some of the talk on here about Carlow, we may be hearing a lot from Carlow at the minute but they have earned their bit of limelight after decades of near misses and hammerings. If Laois had beaten Kildare by 7 points we would be dancing in the streets. Its only 1 year ago Kildare wiped the floor with us. Carlows system may not be pretty, but like Fermanagh they set themselves up to give them the best chance of winning. To quote Philip Jordan in his RTE column https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0605/968327-philip-jordan-fermanagh/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0605/968327-philip-jordan-fermanagh/)
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If Rory Gallagher had sent out his team to play old-fashioned 15-against-15 football they would have been wiped out.

Clare are a decent Division 2 side, they only just missed out on promotion this season, and Kerry put 32 points on them. Galway wiped the floor with Sligo. The same would have happened Fermanagh had they not taken the approach they did.
Do the people who criticise them really expect them to go out and just take a hammering?

As others have said here Laois have the better footballers and all being equal Laois should win by 4/5 points, but Carlow's system once they stick to it will make it very tough for us. But we should respect them and let them enjoy their time in the sun, its up to us to do the talking on the pitch where it counts if we want to end it.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: The Boy Wonder on June 09, 2018, 01:07:09 PM
Well said - it's great to see the buzz in Carlow after all their years in the doldrums.
Anything that promotes the GAA for young people is positive.

C'mon Laois anyway !
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Joeythelips on June 09, 2018, 04:15:59 PM
Kildare leading Derry by 6 points in the second half, of they go on to win and Armagh beat Westmeath the form will be franked in favour of Carlow. Wexford losing to Waterford should make us wary.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Don Draper on June 09, 2018, 05:23:34 PM
Kildare leading Derry by 6 points in the second half, of they go on to win and Armagh beat Westmeath the form will be franked in favour of Carlow. Wexford losing to Waterford should make us wary.
Relax mate, youíll do yourself an injury.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Joeythelips on June 09, 2018, 05:47:30 PM
Kildare leading Derry by 6 points in the second half, of they go on to win and Armagh beat Westmeath the form will be franked in favour of Carlow. Wexford losing to Waterford should make us wary.
Relax mate, youíll do yourself an injury.

 ;D Iím grand. Just seeing the results and fearing the worse tomorrow.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Don Draper on June 09, 2018, 06:14:28 PM
Kildare leading Derry by 6 points in the second half, of they go on to win and Armagh beat Westmeath the form will be franked in favour of Carlow. Wexford losing to Waterford should make us wary.
Relax mate, youíll do yourself an injury.

 ;D Iím grand. Just seeing the results and fearing the worse tomorrow.
Too many variables to draw a form line as you are trying to do.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 09, 2018, 10:06:37 PM
It will be a shocking game which Laois win if we donít bomb the ball down the throat of their midfielder Murphy.  He went to town on us the last day, Broderick missed everything but we also pulled up when going handy. 
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: County Man on June 09, 2018, 11:42:10 PM
Best of luck to the lads tomorrow.

Important to keep discipline. Carlow will have something up their slieves to test us in that regard.

We will likely be outnumbered 2 or 3 to one in terms of support with the Dubs sure to support Carlow when they arrive.

As mentioned by other folks we need a good start, keep them on the back foot.

With both Westmeath and Wexford bowing out of the qualifiers today and Kildare winning, it could be argued that Carlow have got to the semis in more impressive fashion.

We have had a great season so far undefeated with a much improved collective unit and a fine manager in Sugrue.

Big game tomorrow for Finbarr Crowley, did well against Westmeath and now his first big test in Croke Park. All the best to him, no doubt Colm Begley will provide leadership beside him.

We need to watch Sean Murphys runs and prevent him getting ball. Hopefully the defence will continue their fine form and cut down on frees for Broderick.

Lets do the business tomorrow and advance to a Leinster final. Laois Abu. 



Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Tony on June 10, 2018, 09:52:37 AM
Best of luck to all involved today, looking forward to the trip up. Win lose or draw, it's been a positive year for us and we're moving in the right direction. Of course it'd be nice to continue on for a bit longer on this fine run we're having. If we play to our potential, i think it'll be our day today. Laois abu!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 10, 2018, 10:06:57 AM
Unfortunately Tony, losing will mess our year up thatís just life.  It may not be fair but thatís the way it is.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Joeythelips on June 10, 2018, 10:16:53 AM
Best of luck to our footballers today, after a shit storm over the last few seasons with consecutive relegations and poor management, they seem to have a man in charge who can get the best out of them. There is no doubt in my mind that we have the better players so if we match them for work rate and intensity for the 70 minutes we can book a place in the Leinster Final. After the hiding Kildare gave us last year I did not think I would be saying words like "book a place in the Leinster Final" regarding Laois for a long time. Days like this do not come around often as we know so give it everything from the start lads.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 10, 2018, 10:54:28 AM
P>S UP Laois, I really think we will hammer them today so defeat is not in my head
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Don Draper on June 10, 2018, 01:36:59 PM
P>S UP Laois, I really think we will hammer them today so defeat is not in my head
Weíre going to do it
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Joeythelips on June 10, 2018, 03:14:50 PM
P>S UP Laois, I really think we will hammer them today so defeat is not in my head
Weíre going to do it

 :D sounds like it so far, the brother text me to say itís scutter but itís what was expected given Carlowís system. Carlow on top at the minute but Laois still just ahead. On the hot day our bench should edge it for us.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: The PRO on June 10, 2018, 04:05:39 PM
Mup owa dah!!!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Joeythelips on June 10, 2018, 05:09:10 PM
No matter who we have beaten along the way or how the Carlow game was as a spectacle, it is great to be able to say Laois are back in a Leinster final. Obviously itís hard to see them given the Dubs a decent game but who knows. Well done to all involved on what has been a great year so far
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: The Boy Wonder on June 10, 2018, 05:22:58 PM
It will be a shocking game which Laois win if we donít bomb the ball down the throat of their midfielder Murphy.  He went to town on us the last day, Broderick missed everything but we also pulled up when going handy.

Nail on the head - it was a dire game of football. Apart from winning there was little enjoyment and few highlights but we got the win  :)

Feet will be firmly on the ground for the final. I hope Stephen Attride is ok - that was a very courageous interception to avert danger.

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Don Draper on June 10, 2018, 05:55:16 PM
Never in doubt. Respect them but no fear. We donít lose to Carlow.

Thoughts with Stephen, and a massive word for Evan, a man among men.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: High Fielder on June 10, 2018, 07:29:43 PM
Carlow were awful and didn't want to play. Any time they ventured forward we quickly responded. They let their large support down quite badly because they deserved a better attempt than that. Nullifying Sean Murphy pretty much cancelled them out although our own tackling is still nowhere near good enough. We look quite desperate when run at or drawn and the ball goes in behind. It's still a free pass to our half back line and sometimes beyond.

The above said it's been a progressive year and Sugrue is showing that he knows how to play the game in front of him. Very proud and grateful for the effort
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Unison on June 10, 2018, 08:46:59 PM
Well done to John Sugrue and the team today. Its hard to believe that we are just one win nad a lucky draw away from Super 8s. In he meantime, can we keep the score in the Leinster final respectable?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: portlaoisekid on June 10, 2018, 09:06:42 PM
Carlow were awful and didn't want to play. Any time they ventured forward we quickly responded. They let their large support down quite badly because they deserved a better attempt than that. Nullifying Sean Murphy pretty much cancelled them out although our own tackling is still nowhere near good enough. We look quite desperate when run at or drawn and the ball goes in behind. It's still a free pass to our half back line and sometimes beyond.

The above said it's been a progressive year and Sugrue is showing that he knows how to play the game in front of him. Very proud and grateful for the effort
carlow were a joke today in terms of the way they play football, O'Brien and Poacher the tactical geniuses my ass, and as for their idiot supporters cheering on that crap I have no sympathy for them.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Jd on June 10, 2018, 09:36:04 PM
So happy to have been there . Pride well restored in the jersey. Just a word about some of the so called Carlow support . They were itching to argue everything .if a Lapis lad fouled they were screaming for cards and if I even looked sideways they were in my ear . Delighted we bet them cos they are a cynical team
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Joeythelips on June 10, 2018, 09:39:58 PM
Well done to John Sugrue and the team today. Its hard to believe that we are just one win nad a lucky draw away from Super 8s. In he meantime, can we keep the score in the Leinster final respectable?

Whats your idea of respectable? the spread would be 15 points or so with bookmakers. Would that be respectable? The last time they met in Croke Park they lost by 11 Could Laois beat that next day out? possibly, could Dublin go to town on Laois and beat them as many as they like, also possible.
It seem Laois are decent going forward but not the best defensively so hopefully they will push up on the Dubs and play to their strengths. But no matter what way you look at it, it seems hard to see Laois get a 10 point defeat or less, let alone win the game. But fortunately I am not the Laois manager, Im sure Sugrue and the players will be ready on the day. Hopefully they will give a good account of themselves given that there is no real pressure on them. Seeing as, if they do lose, Laois go into the qualifiers where a win gets them into the Super 8s so a humiliating defeat might be mentally hard to recover from.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 10, 2018, 09:51:12 PM
I donít know what spread is against Dublin but hard to call where we are considering the dire shit served up by Carlow but well done to all involved Leinster Final  a serious achievement considering where we were last year
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: SCFC on June 10, 2018, 09:53:36 PM
So happy to have been there . Pride well restored in the jersey. Just a word about some of the so called Carlow support . They were itching to argue everything .if a Lapis lad fouled they were screaming for cards and if I even looked sideways they were in my ear . Delighted we bet them cos they are a cynical team
I thought I was just unlucky where I was sitting!
Look, every county has a percentage of arsehole supporters but I thought Carlow had a particularly high amount today.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 10, 2018, 10:00:10 PM
So happy to have been there . Pride well restored in the jersey. Just a word about some of the so called Carlow support . They were itching to argue everything .if a Lapis lad fouled they were screaming for cards and if I even looked sideways they were in my ear . Delighted we bet them cos they are a cynical team
I thought I was just unlucky where I was sitting!
Look, every county has a percentage of arsehole supporters but I thought Carlow had a particularly high amount today.

Nothing wrong with been an arsehole when your winning they jumped the gun
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Don Draper on June 10, 2018, 10:48:54 PM
Jesus Christ lads, tonight is not the night for talking about spreads and humiliating defeats. Enjoy the good days, theyíre rare.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: SCFC on June 10, 2018, 11:06:02 PM
Our lads have to believe they can pull off the shock of the century. No point in going up there otherwise. You have to hope that you have a day when it all goes right for you and wrong for the opposition. Can't wait for it.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Laoiseabu on June 10, 2018, 11:13:18 PM
Does anyone think we'll beat Dublin ? It will be a step up ten levels from Carlow
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 10, 2018, 11:18:48 PM
Letís be realistic here not a hope in hell,  if you want to be delusional work away.  That bull of believing you can beat them ďif you really wantĒ is silly talk this Dublin team is possibly one of the all time greats we struggled to get over a limited Carlow.  Thatís not to say we  can put in a performance that troubles Dublin then I would be euphoric regardless of result.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: blueandwhite1 on June 10, 2018, 11:30:29 PM
Does anyone think we'll beat Dublin ? It will be a step up ten levels from Carlow

Does anyone think anyone can beat Dublin? Nothing will be expected of us which will take off all the pressure. Will take something special to make a match of it.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: ILikeStrawberryJam on June 10, 2018, 11:31:56 PM
We wont beat Dublin.. anyone who has a clue about football knows that but there is a carrot of the super 8 there now.

Defensively we are vulnerable when run at but we have a decent team with lads who are proud to wear the jersey.

Dillon,timmins,Begley, collins, jol, donoher all very good today. Forwards struggled for obvious reasons.

Great to see so many laois people there today.

Pride has been restored by sugrue and the players after several years of shite.

Hope attride is ok
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Laoiseabu on June 10, 2018, 11:48:13 PM
And what the f**k were Kildare at to let Carlow bate them
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Leixlad on June 11, 2018, 09:16:18 AM
I think we will beat them, shur we are on a roll...11 wins in a row  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Well, someone has to start the optimism  8)

Great to see Laois jerseys out in force again! Well done to Sugrue and the players theres an awful lot to be said for good attitude and commitment.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Don Draper on June 11, 2018, 09:23:09 AM
Gutted for Attride.

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 11, 2018, 09:25:29 AM
Likewise serious injury best wishes Stephen
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: SCFC on June 11, 2018, 09:29:03 AM
Letís be realistic here not a hope in hell,  if you want to be delusional work away.  That bull of believing you can beat them ďif you really wantĒ is silly talk this Dublin team is possibly one of the all time greats we struggled to get over a limited Carlow.  Thatís not to say we  can put in a performance that troubles Dublin then I would be euphoric regardless of result.
Thank f**k you're not in charge of the team.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Unison on June 11, 2018, 09:52:11 AM
Gutted for Attride.

How serious is the injury to Stephen?

I would gladly take a gutsy performance and a 10 to 12 point defeat to Dublin. Hopefully Laois will not be so deflated that the possibility of qualification for the Super 8s would be beyond them.

However, we have to be happy with the progress made under Sugrue.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Joeythelips on June 11, 2018, 10:06:06 AM
A double skull fracture. Best wishes to the guy I hope he has a speedy recovery as soon as possible and does not have any long lasting side effects. I would imagine after such a serious injury that doctors would advice him not to play again. Do the GPA have insurance or something for guys with serious injuries such as this or what happens if he misses work for a long period??
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: High Fielder on June 11, 2018, 11:08:51 AM
What a terrible blow for the lad. He was so brave to go in like he did but to be honest, that's the player he is. I wish him a speedy and uncomplicated recovery.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: blueandwhite1 on June 11, 2018, 11:18:10 AM
Attride - Talk about giving everything to the team. Unbelievable bravery yesterday from Stephen and all the other lads. We looked fit, hungry and at times quite skillful. Our defensive structure was breached on occasion but the full back line were excellent in limiting major damage. Even our clever use of strategic fouling was good.

I was very impressed by our maturity. We knew exactly what we were facing, had a plan, and executed it well. Carlow are really hard to play against. They have Tyrone next which should be exciting......

Dublin were awesome yesterday against a good Longford side. The thing that is most impressive for me is their ability to run flat out at full pace for 75 minutes. Even if you can compete with them on football terms you can't out run them. They remind me of the aussies in the International Rules - professional athletes. Hard to imagine any of them has a day-job.

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Giovanni on June 11, 2018, 11:49:03 AM
Attride - Talk about giving everything to the team. Unbelievable bravery yesterday from Stephen and all the other lads. We looked fit, hungry and at times quite skillful. Our defensive structure was breached on occasion but the full back line were excellent in limiting major damage. Even our clever use of strategic fouling was good.

This sums up more or less what I thought of it. I have to be honest - before yesterday, I couldn't really see the evidence of this new dawn in Laois football. We were stumbling over the line against the likes of London and Waterford and I couldn't see this sea change. I finally got it yesterday.

The change is really epitomised in Finbarr Crowley. I thought he did an incredible job on Sean Murphy. To be able to keep the required level of concentration for the full 70 minutes (and pop up for a point as well) is a testament to himself but also to the management team. This, and the Attride commitment, shows what is different now. I still think there are one or two of the big names who need to take a leaf out of the young lads' book in that regard but yesterday we really looked like we knew what we were trying to do and we executed the plan very professionally indeed. A job exceptionally well done.

On a side issue, I think the referee wasn't great yesterday. He really gave a lot of soft frees (in both directions) and, at the same, didn't clamp down on a few nasty incidents. I thought Brody in particular drew two fouls, which were clear red card offences but he let them away with it. It's always tempting for the opposition to show the fancy dan goalkeeper what it's like to play out the field and the goalkeeper needs the same protection as any other player in those circumstances.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Laoiseabu on June 11, 2018, 12:02:19 PM
But sure we stumbled Over the line yesterday too?😂😂 not without Carlow missing some goal chances
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Giovanni on June 11, 2018, 12:36:19 PM
I suppose that's true in a certain way but to me we looked in complete control (and it really was controlled). We also had our share of missed opportunities, most notable 3 or 4 dreadful frees (something that we obviously can't afford from now on) and one or two goal opportunities that were missed because we didn't make that final pass.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 11, 2018, 12:49:55 PM
Letís be realistic here not a hope in hell,  if you want to be delusional work away.  That bull of believing you can beat them ďif you really wantĒ is silly talk this Dublin team is possibly one of the all time greats we struggled to get over a limited Carlow.  Thatís not to say we  can put in a performance that troubles Dublin then I would be euphoric regardless of result.
Thank f**k you're not in charge of the team.

I hate to tell you this but Santa Claus, The Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny are not real 8).  Laois have traveled along way this year and that should be celebrated but this Dublin team is on the verge of legendary status after nearly a decade of building.   It will be nice playing them and somewhere deep down there is the hope we can pull off a victory but we are 100/1 to win this.  But Laois have had a good year and as Napoleon said "give me lucky generals" hopefully the draw in the qualifiers is kind and we can get into the Super 8's and I don't think many on here would have envisaged that at the start of the year.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Jd on June 11, 2018, 01:50:23 PM
I was impressed with the way we held onto the ball yesterday .we have good footballers who will trouble Dublin for periods the next day but the problem is that Dublin are relentless and move the ball so fast so periods of good play just won't be enough. McCarthy was up and down the field and he only looked at half throttle. I still think that while we're a good bit off Dublin's standard we are capable of competing with a lot of the other teams left in the qualifiers and while I hope I'm left eating my words I reckon we would be very happy with a good final performance and a place in super 8s. A few u20s in next year's panel and develop from there and suddenly we could be in a very good place in a couple of years
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: blueandwhite1 on June 11, 2018, 03:00:57 PM
I was impressed with the way we held onto the ball yesterday .we have good footballers who will trouble Dublin for periods the next day but the problem is that Dublin are relentless and move the ball so fast so periods of good play just won't be enough. McCarthy was up and down the field and he only looked at half throttle. I still think that while we're a good bit off Dublin's standard we are capable of competing with a lot of the other teams left in the qualifiers and while I hope I'm left eating my words I reckon we would be very happy with a good final performance and a place in super 8s. A few u20s in next year's panel and develop from there and suddenly we could be in a very good place in a couple of years

The difference between Dublin and Carlow is that Carlow will stand and watch you while you are passing the ball across the width of the 45 while Dublin will harass you in swarms with relentless energy until you cough it up or pass it rashly. We will have very little time on the ball so the ponderous build-up will have to go. When we broke tackles and passed to players off the shoulder yesterday we looked dangerous. We will need 70+ minutes of it to have an impact on the Dubs.

Aidan O'Rourke's article on RTE website today very good.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0611/969689-dublin-and-carlow-counter-attack-to-best-of-ability/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0611/969689-dublin-and-carlow-counter-attack-to-best-of-ability/)
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: SCFC on June 11, 2018, 04:12:03 PM
Letís be realistic here not a hope in hell,  if you want to be delusional work away.  That bull of believing you can beat them ďif you really wantĒ is silly talk this Dublin team is possibly one of the all time greats we struggled to get over a limited Carlow.  Thatís not to say we  can put in a performance that troubles Dublin then I would be euphoric regardless of result.
Thank f**k you're not in charge of the team.

I hate to tell you this but Santa Claus, The Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny are not real 8).  Laois have traveled along way this year and that should be celebrated but this Dublin team is on the verge of legendary status after nearly a decade of building.   It will be nice playing them and somewhere deep down there is the hope we can pull off a victory but we are 100/1 to win this.  But Laois have had a good year and as Napoleon said "give me lucky generals" hopefully the draw in the qualifiers is kind and we can get into the Super 8's and I don't think many on here would have envisaged that at the start of the year.
You're contradicting yourself now. You've gone from "not a hope in hell" to "somewhere deep down there is the hope we can pull off a victory".
It's the latter one I'm thinking. Of course, I'm realistic. Of course, it's very unlikely. But you have to dream. You have to believe or there's no point in playing it. 
It was 9 points to 5, 10 minutes into the second half in last year's Dublin Carlow game. I'd take something like that and try to keep 15 on the pitch unlike Carlow did.
And Santa Claus is real.  :)
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Tony on June 11, 2018, 04:30:41 PM
Dublin are a good few steps up from what we've been playing but look, 2018 has been a fantastic year for Laois, the players have put pride back in the jersey again and we're certainly looking up. They've given us some great times this year, we're League winners and we've had 3 very good championship performances so far and now a Leinster final!!!

So enjoy it, be proud of the immense achievment this is - Attride going in for that ball where not many people would put a shovel is an illustration of the pride and committment our lads have in this jersey. A joy to watch. Thanks to all the lads and people involved in management for giving Laois people such great times this year, we really do appreciate it. As far as I'm concerned, it's bonus territory from here. The expectations are low from here and we've far exceeded expectation already thus far. So let's go and it give our best and enjoy the moment.

One final point, I'd probably put Damien O' Connor back in place of the injured Attride and start Evan O' Carroll. I'd also start Strong, Walsh or Glynn ahead of Farrell. I think we need our best players on the pitch from the start against Dublin because, it's so easy to go 2-6 to 0-1 behind against them after 15mins. If we want to give ourselves a chance we must get a run on them or at least keep it tight until half time. I'm not saying we're going to win but Sugrue will set us up pretty well. We need a good slice of luck and to convert our chances and for Dublin to have an off day but as I said earlier, it's bonus territory so why not give it a good, intelligently setup lash and try to be clinical with our chances. Hopefully someone will have their mind on scoring goals when opportunities arise, as we'll need them.

Up Laois  ;D
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: blueandwhite1 on June 11, 2018, 04:39:21 PM
I think Farrell's pace and work-rate are under-rated some times. He gets through an amount of work and broke a few tackles yesterday when we needed it. I would keep him on the starting team.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Joeythelips on June 11, 2018, 06:06:17 PM
Dublin are a good few steps up from what we've been playing but look, 2018 has been a fantastic year for Laois, the players have put pride back in the jersey again and we're certainly looking up. They've given us some great times this year, we're League winners and we've had 3 very good championship performances so far and now a Leinster final!!!

So enjoy it, be proud of the immense achievment this is - Attride going in for that ball where not many people would put a shovel is an illustration of the pride and committment our lads have in this jersey. A joy to watch. Thanks to all the lads and people involved in management for giving Laois people such great times this year, we really do appreciate it. As far as I'm concerned, it's bonus territory from here. The expectations are low from here and we've far exceeded expectation already thus far. So let's go and it give our best and enjoy the moment.

One final point, I'd probably put Damien O' Connor back in place of the injured Attride and start Evan O' Carroll. I'd also start Strong, Walsh or Glynn ahead of Farrell. I think we need our best players on the pitch from the start against Dublin because, it's so easy to go 2-6 to 0-1 behind against them after 15mins. If we want to give ourselves a chance we must get a run on them or at least keep it tight until half time. I'm not saying we're going to win but Sugrue will set us up pretty well. We need a good slice of luck and to convert our chances and for Dublin to have an off day but as I said earlier, it's bonus territory so why not give it a good, intelligently setup lash and try to be clinical with our chances. Hopefully someone will have their mind on scoring goals when opportunities arise, as we'll need them.

Up Laois  ;D

Yep, well put Tony. Realistically this years goals have all been met by management and players so well done to them. They are in bonus territory so just go out and give it a right lash. All us supporters want is to see players giving it everything for the cause which is plain to see, and all the players want is a proper set up and management team to help them prepare which after a few shambolic years seems to be the case. Sugrue in fairness has made a big difference and is definitely getting the best out of our players so the county board should make sure he is the manager for a few years to come. We talk about promotion and underage development but the best boost for this is youngsters watching their count win games in Croke Park. They have seem their players win 2 games there already this year so huge thanks to all involved.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 11, 2018, 06:17:43 PM
I was surprised Donie wasn't replaced by Walsh with around 20 mins to go, Carlow had two men hanging around Donie everywhere he went and he was never going to get an inch of room. They don't really know the way Gary plays and he could have snatched a goal or a few points. Donie and Ross missed a few kickable frees yesterday and we need Gary on for the free taking if Evan is not starting as we are going to need to take every chance that's going next day.
It sickens me the way everyone is still talking about Carlow and how they play and very little being said about Sugrue and the way he set us up to break down a very stubborn defence like that.
Personally I think we have had very few managers over the past few years who could have got us to play that very slow, boring brand of football even though that was exactly what was needed yesterday. I hope he can devise another brilliant way to deal with the Dubs as we are going to have to be able to pull off something very special to keep their score in anyway reasonable.

Longford tried to go man for man on them and failed miserably so I doubt that's the way to go but we will have to take every chance we get as there is no way we are going to stop that scoring machine from racking up another huge score. Stephen will be badly missed but its a chance for someone else to step up and make a name for himself and do it for the captain...
Is Cahillane anywhere near being fit enough for the bench? He would add a bit more to the forwards if only for 20 minutes. Nice to see Dicey Reilly on the sideline with Sugrue yesterday and I saw Brendan Quigley at the game also. What's the position with Brendan at this stage?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: on the hop on June 11, 2018, 07:56:06 PM
some good points junior, firstly Longford decided not to employ any cover and got roasted, the score could have been massive if Dublin wanted it. the Dublin forwards really hit them hard at times, one of which yielded a goal and along with their sheer pace and fitness had them run ragged. it was very noticeable that a few of their backs had their hands on the hips in the first half. I would hope that we can deal with them better.

on the match itself, while it was great to win, I was very disappointed with how we still allowed Carlow to be so close at the end. realistically they had the better goal chances than us. That is the third game against them and I would wonder as a tactic did we not try employ some sort of runners off the shoulder to commit them. The backs were great and midfield I thought did ok, certainly at times there was space in front of them to draw Carlow out. The forwards didn't go well. I would have taken off donie long before it happened. As talented and important he is to us, near the end between missed frees and turnovers he was liability. it is mentioned that he was double marked, then you would think it would have been easier to instruct him to drag the two of them over towards the corner and make some space for others. He was very static, nearly as bad as paul. Paul could strive the next day but he has never done well with a close marker, possibly the reason why he has done better further out the field than corner forward. ross tried hard and won a few frees, but found it hard at times to get that bit of space to get a shop off. The next day will be different as Dublin let you pay a bit, but we cant be as wasteful and hopefully evan will start.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: County Man on June 11, 2018, 09:33:30 PM
On the Hop dont't be so negative!! We are in the Leinster final!!  ;D

We have beaten Carlow 3 times in a row this year, not bad considering they beat Louth and Kildare comfortably.

The display yesterday was excellent against a team who set up so negatively. It took incredible patience and mental strength especially in the first 20 minutes to take control of the game and boss it. We had 76% possession in the first half. Big Donie was treble marked at times but still kicked a super point early on to push us 2-1 ahead. Yes he missed some frees but so did Broderick.

Credit also to Colm Begley, Alan Farrell and young Crowley who kicked lovely points in the first half. Its a 21 man game and Glynn, Donagher, Johnno and Evan kicked fine scores to see us through. We hit a lot more wides than Carlow and 8 from play compared to Carlow's 3 from play so a fully deserved win.

We owe a lot to our defence. Again Dillon was outstanding with that brilliant block on Broderick and also a couple of turnovers. Same with Mark Timmons. Solid as a rock.

Our captain Attride was excellent again and what a pity what happened at the end. Wishing him a speedy recovery, what a soldier.

Trevor Collins is really maturing and Alan Farrell is a real workhorse, he deserves great credit.

Midfield solid again and negated Sean Murphy's runs.

We are blessed to have Sugrue in charge and for me he can have the job for as long as he wants. 

10 competitive wins in a row this year. Laois football is on a high. Fine support in Croke Park yesterday. I noticed that Longford had very few there. I would urge supporters to travel in big numbers again for the final. 11 years is too long a time.

Obviously we are in bonus territory now. Who could have predicted this a year ago?

Dublin are rampant at the moment. We held them to 11 points in 2016 and 2014. If we could keep the margin to single figures it would be a fantastic effort and something to take to round 4 of the qualifiers.

Keep it as tight as possible and try to grab some scores on the counter attack. A goal or 2 for us wouldn't go amiss. We have the forwards to get them. All in all, I can't wait! This is what its all about!

Thank you Sugrue, the rest of the backroom team and of course the players. You have all done us proud. 



Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: on the hop on June 11, 2018, 10:59:17 PM
Your making me feel bad😀, I could say that we only scored the same as louth and less than kildare. Still think that we shouldn't have to had made it so nervous in the end. You can miss frees but some of them were sloppy misses. Would you change any of the forwards for the final or are we to assume that o Connor will go into the backs and Evan into the forwards
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Giovanni on June 11, 2018, 11:06:45 PM
I personally wouldn't have Damien O Connor at corner back against Dublin (or anyone else). He works hard out the field and covers plenty of ground but I wouldn't see him as a corner back. 
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: ollie12 on June 12, 2018, 08:55:04 AM
I was up at the game on Sunday....
I thought Laois played a very calm and measured game. They didn't panic and didn't kick it away and get frustrated with the 14 man Carlow defence in front of them. A few notable points from the game, Timmons got a brilliant hand in on Murphy and disposed him brilliantly in first half. Donoher's pass to Crowley was great vision and Crowley kicked a super point from the pass. Laois's kickouts very fast and got the play under way straight away. Glynn kicked a great point from a narrow angle with possibly his first possession having come on when Laois were after kicking 3 or 4 bad wide's and badly needed a score. Dillons block on Broderick in second half was excellent, its rare in todays game.  Brody did very well from play coming out with the ball and it always attracts at least two opposition players and frees up his own team mates. Crowley was excellent under the long kickouts and picked up a few vital breaks. I thought Donnie kicked a few excellent frees in the last 15 minutes to close out the game, after missing a few scoreable ones beforehand. Evan kicked a nice point after a personally tough week for the chap. And finally Stephen Attride, what bravery to cut out a vital ball with 30 seconds left on the clock, its a pity that his sheer bravery came at such a cost to our captain.
Well done to all players, management and backroom staff.  Bring on the Dubs............ :)
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship(Next up Carlow in Croker 2pm 10th of June)
Post by: Unlaoised on June 12, 2018, 10:04:16 AM
Here's my rating from the weekend

A usual its only an opinion -im not always right :-) ..I respect every one of the Laois lads and the commitment they make to the jersey!


Brody 8 - Took a great early high ball and started great attacks with his bursts from goal.His kickout long and short were good.St Ledger should have seen red for his tackle on him.

Attride 7-Not on as much ball as he usually gets coming out of defence but his brave block at the end probably won the game fro Laois but could cost him his season.

Timmons 7-Solid under the hig ball and made a few great tackles with one great shoulder on Murphy was caught for pace a few times but he is a great leader back there

Dillion 8 -Another great performance by the corner back his block on Brodrick was superb and he was available for so  many kickouts taking off a mark for messing up one by taking it inside the line.

Collins 6-Quite enough but did a solid job I thought he could have made more of his runs forward on the right side in the first half but he has a great engine.

Begley 8-Had to be close to man of the match so composed on the ball and kicked a great point showing real leadership this year and looks very fit.

Crowley 8- Did a great job on Murphy and took the sting out of the Chu Chu ..Kicked a great point and picked up a lot of vital breaks in midfield.

O'Loughlin 8-Caught a few great kickouts a big easier in the middle for him due to Carlows also small midfield.A power house who put in some great tackles.Scored a nice point after a great Laois move.

Lillis 6- Was decent in spells but coughed up possession to many times not like him and he will have to improve that in the final grew into the game and has been a real plus this year.

Farrell -6 Not his best game but a willing worker kicked a great score in the first half.He has come on so much but needs to keep that level of improvement to keep his place.

Donoher -9 My man of the match superb in the first half winning two vital frees and setting up Kingston and Crowley for their scores.Kept it simple but was always looking to make things happen.Superb point in the second half.He always plays well in Croker

O'Connor 6-Alot of dirty work off the ball which was vital to the teams shape etc but he coughed up possession and his lack of scoring abilty in zones where he should be kicking is noticeable.

Munnelly 7- Did well winning a lot of ball and a few frees was dispossed a few times and missed and easy free which will disappoint him still having a great year and is a credit to his county.

D Kingston 7-Not his best game but was frustrated inside with the ball not coming in and two carlow lads hanging off his tail he did kick a great point and few nice frees in the second half.

P Kingston 6-Not the same impact as the last day and was kept very quiet by a tight marker still a player with so much skill and he worked hard for the team.

Carroll 7-I thought he showed quick hands a few times creating two Laois points and was busy when he came in.

Glynn 7-Deadly point and never lost the ball can be happy with his contribution .

O'Carroll 8- Looked dangerous in the 20 minutes he was on making two great runs and kicking a fine score on such a tough week for him his father would have been proud!

Strong 7- Caught one superb Carlow kickout and was good on the ball

Conway Walsh and Nerney weren't on long enough to really rate although Conway did get a few possessions .


As you can see by the subs ratings it certainly was a squad effort.

I'm proud of everyone of them there is no pressure on them now for the Dublin game and nothing but a heavy defeat is expected .


The players and staff should be proud of themselves winning every game we have played in 2018.

I cannot wait for the final and I hope the same Laois support travels up


Finally best wishes to Stephen I hope he makes a full recovery if you wanted to know why he was picked as captain then that tackle showed why.
He is a great player  and has been even in th bad years I hope his family and friends rally round him to make sure he recovers well physically and mentally which could be hard when something you love doing is taken away from you for what could be a considerable amount of time.

LAOIS LAOIS LAOIS
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 12, 2018, 07:40:27 PM
Good to see Stephen Attride in good spirits and posting a positive message on Instagram! Some man and huge respect to him. Speedy recovery, Stephen https://www.instagram.com/p/Bj4mXbVlt9z/
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: rrhf on June 12, 2018, 08:27:56 PM
Enjoyed the Ross munnelly interview tonight. Came across as a real class act.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 12, 2018, 10:22:30 PM
Agreed, he is a class act. Here's the link to his interview if anyone is interested https://youtu.be/FHdz4xcTdKc
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Unison on June 12, 2018, 11:25:43 PM
Nice interview. Ross is a great ambassador for Laois.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 13, 2018, 12:26:14 AM
Agreed, he is a class act. Here's the link to his interview if anyone is interested https://youtu.be/FHdz4xcTdKc
Great interview, Ross is a credit to himself and his county. Thanks for the link Tony..
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: The Boy Wonder on June 13, 2018, 01:05:17 AM
Just listened to the interview - no better man - Ross has done his county proud every time he wore the blue and white.

I'll never forget his performance in the 2nd half of the 2005 Leinster Final where he nearly single handedly got us over the line.

An inspirational guy to have in our dressing room.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: portlaoisekid on June 13, 2018, 08:19:47 AM
All gone quiet on Jonny Coopers punch vs longford, I assume he is clear with no retrospective action taking place.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 13, 2018, 08:25:54 AM
All gone quiet on Jonny Coopers punch vs longford, I assume he is clear with no retrospective action taking place.
A tr**p will always be a tr**p.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Joeythelips on June 13, 2018, 11:19:33 AM
Just listened to the interview - no better man - Ross has done his county proud every time he wore the blue and white.

I'll never forget his performance in the 2nd half of the 2005 Leinster Final where he nearly single handedly got us over the line.

An inspirational guy to have in our dressing room.

Strange with all the games he won but that Dublin game is what sticks in my mind too when I think of Ross Munnelly. I was in the upper Hogan and he was telling his own players to get out of his way and make room for him as he was sprinting from one touch line to the other to win posession. He demanded the ball each time Laois came forward, he must have ran about 15 miles that day. He was incredieble and the Dubs were hitting him hard and often as they recognised he was the danger man but still he came back for more each time. Probably one of the best performances I have seen from any player in a Laois jersey.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: blueandwhite1 on June 13, 2018, 11:37:42 AM
For me, I will never forget the 2 goals that Ross scored in Navan against Meath in 2006. We were struggling in that game. It was a beautiful evening and Meath were convinced they would beat us. Laois stood up to them but one man rose above them all:

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/munnelly-makes-the-difference-for-laois-267975.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/munnelly-makes-the-difference-for-laois-267975.html)


Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Leixlad on June 13, 2018, 04:37:58 PM
Just listened to the interview - no better man - Ross has done his county proud every time he wore the blue and white.

I'll never forget his performance in the 2nd half of the 2005 Leinster Final where he nearly single handedly got us over the line.

An inspirational guy to have in our dressing room.

Strange with all the games he won but that Dublin game is what sticks in my mind too when I think of Ross Munnelly. I was in the upper Hogan and he was telling his own players to get out of his way and make room for him as he was sprinting from one touch line to the other to win posession. He demanded the ball each time Laois came forward, he must have ran about 15 miles that day. He was incredieble and the Dubs were hitting him hard and often as they recognised he was the danger man but still he came back for more each time. Probably one of the best performances I have seen from any player in a Laois jersey.

Yeah an unbelievable performance that day from him. How he didn't get an all star that year still baffles me.  If ever there is going to be a statue of a Laois player it'll surely be Ross! Maybe when he retires! If he retires!!  :o
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 13, 2018, 07:55:10 PM
Ross is only 35, he's not over 40; He has another couple of years in him I think  ;D! If you mind yourself like Ross does and eat right and recover well, that's why you can still kick on at 35+ and make an impact. He's better now than he was in 2014/15/16, in my opinion, so fair play to him. As he said in his interview - losing his place meant he could have retired - or it could have spurred him on to try even harder to be better and win back his place. And that hard work has paid off as he's now a vital part of our starting 15 or a very important impact sub. Great ambassador for laois and excellent role model for the younger lads.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 13, 2018, 08:52:27 PM
Ross is only 35, he's not over 40; He has another couple of years in him I think  ;D! If you mind yourself like Ross does and eat right and recover well, that's why you can still kick on at 35+ and make an impact. He's better now than he was in 2014/15/16, in my opinion, so fair play to him. As he said in his interview - losing his place meant he could have retired - or it could have spurred him on to try even harder to be better and win back his place. And that hard work has paid off as he's now a vital part of our starting 15 or a very important impact sub. Great ambassador for laois and excellent role model for the younger lads.

Not all that long ago some fellas on here wanted him retired.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 14, 2018, 09:03:10 AM
In the last few years, Laois are one of the only teams in leinster to put it up to Dublin and make it interesting. We did ok in nowlan pk with 14, we ran them close to 3points in the 2012 all Ireland quarter final and we were leading at half time in 2014 and should have been further ahead. We had a couple of goal chances that day but didn't capitalise. We'll need all the goals we can get in the leinster final.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Clubber Lang on June 14, 2018, 10:45:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcdNumgT8m0

The first half against Dublin in 2014 was some of the best football played by a Laois team in the last decade and had the likes of Conway been more accurate with shooting could have built up a greater lead. Munnelly kicked some great scores and Kingston was at his peak that year fitness wise. It was probably the last time Dublin were losing at half time in a Leinster championship game. 
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: seafoid on June 14, 2018, 11:00:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcdNumgT8m0

The first half against Dublin in 2014 was some of the best football played by a Laois team in the last decade and had the likes of Conway been more accurate with shooting could have built up a greater lead. Munnelly kicked some great scores and Kingston was at his peak that year fitness wise. It was probably the last time Dublin were losing at half time in a Leinster championship game.
How did Laois go backwards after 2014?
Why did it happen?
Great to see Kingston and Munnelly in Croke Park again this year
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 14, 2018, 11:24:41 AM
Cluxton is OUT.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 14, 2018, 11:26:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcdNumgT8m0

The first half against Dublin in 2014 was some of the best football played by a Laois team in the last decade and had the likes of Conway been more accurate with shooting could have built up a greater lead. Munnelly kicked some great scores and Kingston was at his peak that year fitness wise. It was probably the last time Dublin were losing at half time in a Leinster championship game.
How did Laois go backwards after 2014?
Why did it happen?
Great to see Kingston and Munnelly in Croke Park again this year
Shite managers.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: redsetanta on June 14, 2018, 11:28:30 AM
Cluxton out won't affect the result but there should be shakey moments when Donie could get his fist to a dropping ball. Definately should send in a few high ones early doors.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 14, 2018, 11:48:11 AM
Cluxton out won't affect the result but there should be shakey moments when Donie could get his fist to a dropping ball. Definately should send in a few high ones early doors.
He's worth 5-6 points to them for a variety of reasons. You're correct in that it won't change the result, but it is a positive. I'm sending a card to the Longford fella, anyone want me to add their name to it as well?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: The PRO on June 14, 2018, 12:47:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcdNumgT8m0

The first half against Dublin in 2014 was some of the best football played by a Laois team in the last decade and had the likes of Conway been more accurate with shooting could have built up a greater lead. Munnelly kicked some great scores and Kingston was at his peak that year fitness wise. It was probably the last time Dublin were losing at half time in a Leinster championship game.
How did Laois go backwards after 2014?
Why did it happen?
Great to see Kingston and Munnelly in Croke Park again this year
Shite managers.
Yup. Justin McNulty couldn't be got rid of quick enough back then. We had 3 bad choices since then.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: redsetanta on June 14, 2018, 12:51:06 PM
The games were unwatchable under McNulty even if we did win more. Give me the set up that's there now any day of the week over McNulty. Has he done anything in management since then?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 14, 2018, 12:58:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcdNumgT8m0

The first half against Dublin in 2014 was some of the best football played by a Laois team in the last decade and had the likes of Conway been more accurate with shooting could have built up a greater lead. Munnelly kicked some great scores and Kingston was at his peak that year fitness wise. It was probably the last time Dublin were losing at half time in a Leinster championship game.
How did Laois go backwards after 2014?
Why did it happen?
Great to see Kingston and Munnelly in Croke Park again this year
Shite managers.
Yup. Justin McNulty couldn't be got rid of quick enough back then. We had 3 bad choices since then.
He wasn't playing the "Laois way". f**king hell, when you think back on it, we're some shower.

Anyway, bandwagon ahoy, all are welcome aboard. Ticket sales are out the gate for the final.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Joeythelips on June 14, 2018, 12:59:52 PM
Cluxton out won't affect the result but there should be shakey moments when Donie could get his fist to a dropping ball. Definately should send in a few high ones early doors.
He's worth 5-6 points to them for a variety of reasons. You're correct in that it won't change the result, but it is a positive. I'm sending a card to the Longford fella, anyone want me to add their name to it as well?

I agree, Cluxtons kickouts are one of Dublins main weapons as his kickouts are so accurate, as Dublin are not the best ball winners (well for such a good team their not) hopefully Laois push right up on the kickouts to put the new keeper under the maximum pressure to make him drive it long and send in some high balls in his direction. Im sure the goalie trains as hard as anyone but it does not compare to a big game in Croker.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 14, 2018, 01:04:08 PM
Cluxton out won't affect the result but there should be shakey moments when Donie could get his fist to a dropping ball. Definately should send in a few high ones early doors.
He's worth 5-6 points to them for a variety of reasons. You're correct in that it won't change the result, but it is a positive. I'm sending a card to the Longford fella, anyone want me to add their name to it as well?

I agree, Cluxtons kickouts are one of Dublins main weapons as his kickouts are so accurate, as Dublin are not the best ball winners (well for such a good team their not) hopefully Laois push right up on the kickouts to put the new keeper under the maximum pressure to make him drive it long and send in some high balls in his direction. Im sure the goalie trains as hard as anyone but it does not compare to a big game in Croker.
He can train all he likes, but until he proves it under pressure, the backs will be nervous, as will he. You earn trust. Dublin have had a revolving door of sub goalies in recent years, understandably seeing as that other fella never wants to give any of them a game. Lob it into him early doors.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 14, 2018, 03:39:33 PM
Cluxton out is huge. He's one of their main players, his kickouts are excellent and he's been the best keeper in the country by a mile for years. Lob it in around Evan Comerford (their new keeper) and Donie and see what happens. Very basic tactics but my money is on Donie in that scenario.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Unison on June 14, 2018, 04:19:07 PM
Cluxton out is huge. He's one of their main players, his kickouts are excellent and he's been the best keeper in the country by a mile for years. Lob it in around Evan Comerford (their new keeper) and Donie and see what happens. Very basic tactics but my money is on Donie in that scenario.

But doesn't that go against the type of game that Laois have been paying where possession is paramount and speculative efforts are frowned on?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: blueandwhite1 on June 14, 2018, 08:29:35 PM
Lads, Cluxton was missing for most of the Longford match and Dublin didn't look too phased by it. They now have even more motivation to put us to the sword.

I doubt Sugrue is changing his plans.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 14, 2018, 08:36:30 PM
Lads, Cluxton was missing for most of the Longford match and Dublin didn't look too phased by it. They now have even more motivation to put us to the sword.

I doubt Sugrue is changing his plans.
What plans? Have you not seen high balls kicked into Donie this year? Its only against Carlow where possession was key. Be foolish not to change it up, its whats been done all year.

Carlow was horses for courses.

Dont doubt for a second Cluxtons loss in a Leinster final wont phase them.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 14, 2018, 09:36:17 PM
I love the attitude of our manager and what a great interview. You have to go in with this attitude or else there's no point showing up. Laois abu, some strong words from John Sugrue here https://youtu.be/psVZioFcs_Y
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Post by: Unison on June 14, 2018, 09:37:26 PM
I think they will be expecting a few garyowens, and will be well prepared for them.
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Post by: Unison on June 14, 2018, 09:47:15 PM
I love the attitude of our manager and what a great interview. You have to go in with this attitude or else there's no point showing up. Laois abu, some strong words from John Sugrue here https://youtu.be/psVZioFcs_Y

'We're not going to lie down'. Great Attitude.
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Post by: Don Draper on June 14, 2018, 10:03:54 PM
I think they will be expecting a few garyowens, and will be well prepared for them.
Everyone has a plan until they punched in the face.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 14, 2018, 11:26:44 PM
I love the attitude of our manager and what a great interview. You have to go in with this attitude or else there's no point showing up. Laois abu, some strong words from John Sugrue here https://youtu.be/psVZioFcs_Y

'We're not going to lie down'. Great Attitude.
Are you being sarcastic unison? Because he said a lot more than that.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Unison on June 14, 2018, 11:37:30 PM
I love the attitude of our manager and what a great interview. You have to go in with this attitude or else there's no point showing up. Laois abu, some strong words from John Sugrue here https://youtu.be/psVZioFcs_Y

'We're not going to lie down'. Great Attitude.
Are you being sarcastic unison? Because he said a lot more than that.

Where is the sarcasm?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: The Boy Wonder on June 15, 2018, 12:44:01 AM
We need to pick at whatever straws are available Ė whatís the point of just accepting the general wisdom that we are lambs to the slaughter ? 

The Dubs are missing a key man at the back Ė in 2003 they were missing Hill 16 at their back -  it was out of commission due to a forthcoming U2 concert.

Yes, letís bomb it in to Cluxtonsís replacement - we might get a break  :D
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 15, 2018, 12:48:52 AM
I love the attitude of our manager and what a great interview. You have to go in with this attitude or else there's no point showing up. Laois abu, some strong words from John Sugrue here https://youtu.be/psVZioFcs_Y

Great Attitude, no wonder the players like what he's doing.  Here are a few more interviews with some team members.

Colm Begley      -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZihSSd_zI-k   
Brian Glynn       -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv8FU8ibCKA
Ross Munnelly   -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHdz4xcTdKc   
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 15, 2018, 08:08:37 AM
Lads this is a great Dublin team we are on the first steps of a journey,  I think the Leinster Final will be a harsh lesson in the gap between Dublin & Laois.  Enjoy the occasion but hopefully Laois keep their eye on the ball winning the Super 8 Qualifier game would be an outrageous achievement.  Laois wonít be beating Dublin but hopefully we keep our eye on the real prize the Super 8ís which is highly achievable with a favorable draw.  Regardless it has been some year but this should not paper over the issues we have at juvenile level.  Where we simply are not producing enough to compete at the top table.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 15, 2018, 08:50:51 AM
Great interviews junior, thanks for posting. These are great lads were supporting and that are representing Laois. Don't worry Ballyroan, nobody is betting the wife and kids on Laois. We're just delighted we're in a leinster final and confident that we can give a good account of ourselves. I admire the rhetoric and attitude of the management and players going into this one: they acknowledge the strengths of Dublin but yet are focusing on ourselves, not them, and playing to our strengths and potential.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Joeythelips on June 15, 2018, 10:04:01 AM
Lads this is a great Dublin team we are on the first steps of a journey,  I think the Leinster Final will be a harsh lesson in the gap between Dublin & Laois.  Enjoy the occasion but hopefully Laois keep their eye on the ball winning the Super 8 Qualifier game would be an outrageous achievement.  Laois wonít be beating Dublin but hopefully we keep our eye on the real prize the Super 8ís which is highly achievable with a favorable draw.  Regardless it has been some year but this should not paper over the issues we have at juvenile level.  Where we simply are not producing enough to compete at the top table.

No one is under any illusions, this Dublin side is easily one of the best Football teams I have ever seen, but our lads are not going up there to give them a guard of honour. All sports are littered with David v Goliath triumphs, GAA is no different. It may be unlikely, granted, but if Laois play to their absolute maximum and get a bit of luck on the day their is still that chance, however slim, that they could pull of the counties greatest ever victory.

Again I know how talented the Dublin team are but picture this scenario for example. It has been mentioned here about Cluxton being out, so Laois target the keeper early on, they push up on his kickouts, he hits a few dodgy ones early and the pressure builds on a guy who has never tasted big match days. I know a poster said he did fine the last day, but that is coming on in a game that was basically over and his expectations for that day would have being to warm the bench for the full 70 mins. He will now have the full build up and parade the works. Next minute Donie Kingston is contesting a high ball with him.
Also in the Longford game Cooper should have got the line for a blatant punch, that will be in the refs mind hopefully, Laois are niggling at him early on, he might throw back the elbow as the guy cant help himself and get the line. Obviously Im not saying these things will happen but it shows Dublin getting under pressure would not be beyond the bounds of possibilities.

I also know the other side of the coin where the Dubs get a goal or 2 early and suddenly the game is about damage limitation after 20 minutes, but we live in hope.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Unison on June 15, 2018, 10:33:33 AM
Lads this is a great Dublin team we are on the first steps of a journey,  I think the Leinster Final will be a harsh lesson in the gap between Dublin & Laois.  Enjoy the occasion but hopefully Laois keep their eye on the ball winning the Super 8 Qualifier game would be an outrageous achievement.  Laois won’t be beating Dublin but hopefully we keep our eye on the real prize the Super 8’s which is highly achievable with a favorable draw.  Regardless it has been some year but this should not paper over the issues we have at juvenile level.  Where we simply are not producing enough to compete at the top table.

No one is under any illusions, this Dublin side is easily one of the best Football teams I have ever seen, but our lads are not going up there to give them a guard of honour. All sports are littered with David v Goliath triumphs, GAA is no different. It may be unlikely, granted, but if Laois play to their absolute maximum and get a bit of luck on the day their is still that chance, however slim, that they could pull of the counties greatest ever victory.

Again I know how talented the Dublin team are but picture this scenario for example. It has been mentioned here about Cluxton being out, so Laois target the keeper early on, they push up on his kickouts, he hits a few dodgy ones early and the pressure builds on a guy who has never tasted big match days. I know a poster said he did fine the last day, but that is coming on in a game that was basically over and his expectations for that day would have being to warm the bench for the full 70 mins. He will now have the full build up and parade the works. Next minute Donie Kingston is contesting a high ball with him.
Also in the Longford game Cooper should have got the line for a blatant punch, that will be in the refs mind hopefully, Laois are niggling at him early on, he might throw back the elbow as the guy cant help himself and get the line. Obviously Im not saying these things will happen but it shows Dublin getting under pressure would not be beyond the bounds of possibilities.

I also know the other side of the coin where the Dubs get a goal or 2 early and suddenly the game is about damage limitation after 20 minutes, but we live in hope.

Hopefully Dublin won't get those early goals as they did against Longford. It seems to be a strategy of theirs to put the opposition away as early as possible. For different reasons, just as a decent start was important against Carlow, its imperative against Dublin.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: redsetanta on June 15, 2018, 11:01:39 AM
Last Leinster final we were doing fine but hit with sucker punch goals either side of half time.

In saying that when we played them under O'Flaharta, as Tony said, we lead at half time and in previous years we seem to have been the only team in Leinster that could compete with them and cause them problems.

Pity Attride is missing after his cracking goal in Nowlan Park. It's a breath of fresh air listen to a Laois manager who knows and believes what he's saying. That's been lacking for a while!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Jd on June 15, 2018, 11:29:19 AM
The Dublin sub keeper came in the last day with Dublin around 10 points up and Longford down to 14 men. Might be a bit different in his first Leinster final with Laois hopefully close and a full compliment of players pushing up on kickouts. Kerry did it to cluxton 2 years ago and should have beaten Dublin and I suspect that this fella is no Cluxton........on the point of underage development I read that Monaghan don't really worry about winning minor or u20s competitions. They view those teams as a way to identify one or two new players fit to play senior thus having a constant supply of fresh lads coming through. Could we name 2 from the u20s fit for senior next year. Crowley has done it. Possibly there's two or 3 more so not too bad overall
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: les Antiques on June 15, 2018, 01:26:54 PM
Such a refreshing interview from an inter- county manager and its clearly evident his influence on the entire panel and set up .Laois have nothing to lose Sunday week . We are facing an incredible challenge against the possibly one of the greatest teams ever .
I can't recall a Dublin panel  without Bernard Brogan, Connelly or Cluxton collectively not involved on a matchday for the Dubs . It'll be interesting to see how they'll utilise Comerford considering how important Cluxton is . Comerford hadn't a single save to make when introduced against Longford . We can't make the same mistake .
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Gmac on June 15, 2018, 02:19:12 PM
Would be more worried about this game and result if there was only one week between it and next round of qualifiers but now there is 2 so hopefully management can get everything thing out of the players and not worry about the result too much , use game as an opportunity to get more game time in Croke Park , tell Ross and Donie to empty the tank in the first 45 mine get all the subs on and get as many lads as possible a Leinster final big game experience .
Take it easy and recover week after game and then use following week to get ready for qualifier game and chance to make super 8 which would be unbelievable achievement .
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Unison on June 15, 2018, 02:29:41 PM
Is there any idea yet who Laois could possibly meet in the qualifiers?
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Post by: on the hop on June 15, 2018, 02:38:48 PM
In relation to the qualifiers next week end will clear out some of the weaker teams, the following week the eight winners play off and the winners play the four losing provincial finalists. A lot of strong teams left
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Clubber Lang on June 15, 2018, 03:01:42 PM
In the qualifiers you could potentially have a combination of Tyrone, Monaghan, Mayo and Kildare coming through from round three. Making the Super 8s won't be easy. Best option is to simply go and win Leinster.     
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Giovanni on June 15, 2018, 04:00:27 PM
If we do end up in the qualifiers, aren't we guaranteed home advantage by virtue of our Div 4 status?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: redsetanta on June 15, 2018, 04:50:42 PM
At that stage are they not neutral venues?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Unlaoised on June 15, 2018, 10:42:19 PM
Attride probably a bigger loss than Cluxton in saying that it might disrupt Dublins machine a little .

Great buzz around the county and i hear ticket sales are going well .

Good to see so many Laois tops on youngsters again ...

Too be fair current Laois shirt is a cracker
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Post by: Jd on June 15, 2018, 10:43:32 PM
Think it's something like one at home, one away, and one in Croke Park. But I could have dreamt that too
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Post by: Jd on June 15, 2018, 10:45:57 PM
Ooops I see you're talking qualifiers...... I was talking super 8. Jumped the gun a bit .sorry
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Post by: The Saint on June 16, 2018, 12:08:34 AM
Thought the match last Sunday was desperate stuff but what else could we do? CRlow shouldnít be allowed into Croke Park for the next twenty years. Septic football on their behalf and two things stood out... the diving of Jordan Morrissey going into contact and also the in sportsmanship of the Carlow no:4.... he was screaming for cards off the ref every single time he went into a tackle with a Laois player. Turn your stomach. Absolutely love what Brody gives us in open play...think he really lifts the crowd with his forays forward and should be encouraged to keep this up... was very impressed how he slotted into full back during a Carlow attack and directed Timmons to stay put in goal... very confident stuff and I think it gives the team and supporters a boost. Thought JOL had a monster game at midfield and was delighted for Evan Carroll too.. tough circumstances and tough week for him. Last two points... we should look at damage limitation in the Leinster final, definitely go for it not like Carlow did, keep it respectable and enjoy the occasion. Who would have thought weíd be here at the start of this year? And finally, great chance to meet all the lads in OMP tomorrow evening... itís Slways a great night out and usually not supported too well. Put on the jersey, throw the kids in the car and go in and show our appreciation of these lads. They deserve it.
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Post by: Laoiseabu on June 16, 2018, 01:12:32 PM
Laois beaten in a practice match against Sligo last night
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: O moore parklife on June 16, 2018, 01:45:29 PM
Laois beaten in a practice match against Sligo last night
Second team was out mountmellick kerper had a howler better wrap Brody in cotton wool or go look for a better replacement comerford chap from strad or when young Byron is eligible maybe
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Post by: justinn on June 16, 2018, 01:57:10 PM
What was the team, anyone impress?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 16, 2018, 02:30:47 PM
Laois beaten in a practice match against Sligo last night
Second team was out mountmellick kerper had a howler better wrap Brody in cotton wool or go look for a better replacement comerford chap from strad or when young Byron is eligible maybe
Keogh is a fine keeper. Gway ta fook.
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Post by: O moore parklife on June 16, 2018, 03:01:50 PM
Been good on the club scene but any time in laois jersey a liability opinions are like arseholes don.
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Post by: Don Draper on June 16, 2018, 06:24:38 PM
Been good on the club scene but any time in laois jersey a liability opinions are like arseholes don.
Bullshit. Has rarely gotten a chance with the first 15. Heís no Brody, but who is
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 16, 2018, 06:53:29 PM
Second best keeper in Laois is Danny Bolger from Graiguecullen, he was playing soccer with Wexford all year but I see him back playing the last few games with Graigue...
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Post by: Mock on June 16, 2018, 09:46:11 PM
Bolger is a fine keeper and can strike a great dead ball also Aaron Cooney of st Josephís is a exciting and top class young keeper who can place a 40-50 yard kick out to his team mate with either foot. It would be great to see these young lads get a chance because if Brody get a long term injury we are short on back up in that position. Thatís not taken from Keogh in any way
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Post by: Laois fan on June 16, 2018, 10:36:11 PM
Bannon from o dempseys is in with them at moment
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Post by: Jd on June 16, 2018, 10:46:18 PM
Mick Nolan from Portlaoise is probably still the second best keeper on Laois. A lovely striker of the ball and top class at controlling a backline. Would be on any other team in the county
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 16, 2018, 11:04:01 PM
Once we get sub keeper sorted, weíll be f**king unstoppable
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Post by: The Monument Road on June 17, 2018, 12:05:57 AM
who the feck is keogh
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Post by: Laoiseabu on June 17, 2018, 12:28:57 AM
Jaysus lads we are debating over a SUB goalie what sort are we at all 😂😂
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Post by: Joeythelips on June 17, 2018, 08:16:50 AM
Once we get sub keeper sorted, weíll be f**king unstoppable

 ;D ;D
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Post by: The PRO on June 17, 2018, 08:27:59 AM
Thankless job is second choice goalie. Not many would want it. Doing all the same training etc and knowing only an injury will get you a game.
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Post by: Bud Wiser on June 17, 2018, 06:41:02 PM
Maybe play two goalies.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 17, 2018, 08:44:45 PM
Maybe play two goalies.
Two? We donít even f**king play one!
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Post by: justinn on June 17, 2018, 11:10:17 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 18, 2018, 01:31:41 AM
This young guy from Wexford must be watching Brody's antics..... Watch below!

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1008015883296542720
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Post by: portlaoisekid on June 18, 2018, 08:38:18 AM
OK guys , big week ahead. I assume it'll be same team as the last day with O'Connor to the backs and O'Carroll into the forwards ?
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Post by: Don Draper on June 18, 2018, 09:24:53 AM
OK guys , big week ahead. I assume it'll be same team as the last day with O'Connor to the backs and O'Carroll into the forwards ?

Agreed. Although its not beyond Sugrue to throw a curve ball. He likes his horses for courses.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 18, 2018, 09:58:26 AM
Maybe Holland or Booth into Stephen's position with everything else unchanged. It's a real pity Stephen is out but got to move on and I'm delighted he will be well enough to attend and be with the team. Personally I'd go with moving Damien back and starting Evan but I've a feeling Sugrue will go with the former and throw holland or Booth in there and keep everything else unchanged.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Unison on June 18, 2018, 10:23:28 AM
I doubt he will play Denis Booth. He is a dependable defender, but slow.
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Post by: Unlaoised on June 18, 2018, 11:37:50 AM
Looks like O Connor but Holland is not a bad shout
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Post by: Don Draper on June 18, 2018, 11:39:20 AM
While I like Dutchie, I'm always concerned about the possiblities of him being passed on the left hand side.
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Post by: SCFC on June 18, 2018, 01:59:20 PM
While I like Dutchie, I'm always concerned about the possiblities of him being passed on the left hand side.
🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
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Post by: South Laois man on June 18, 2018, 04:19:49 PM
Really looking forward to Sunday. With nothing to lose it feel we'll have a right cut off them. Hearing ticket sales are going very well. These lads deserve our support.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: les Antiques on June 18, 2018, 05:37:53 PM
Lads how about Collins back corner back and Strong in the half back line rotating with Damien OC...?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 18, 2018, 06:21:12 PM
How did Gary Walsh go from being our top scorer to barely making it onto the field for five minutes these days. I know that infamous tweet didn't do him any favours but he's hardly still paying for it.
Anyone know if Cahalaine is still with the squad??
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Unison on June 18, 2018, 07:51:57 PM
How did Gary Walsh go from being our top scorer to barely making it onto the field for five minutes these days. I know that infamous tweet didn't do him any favours but he's hardly still paying for it.
Anyone know if Cahalaine is still with the squad??

Does he work hard enough?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 18, 2018, 08:10:41 PM
How did Gary Walsh go from being our top scorer to barely making it onto the field for five minutes these days. I know that infamous tweet didn't do him any favours but he's hardly still paying for it.
Anyone know if Cahalaine is still with the squad??
Paul is in America

Gary and Donie simply donít work together
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Unlaoised on June 18, 2018, 10:46:31 PM
How did Gary Walsh go from being our top scorer to barely making it onto the field for five minutes these days. I know that infamous tweet didn't do him any favours but he's hardly still paying for it.
Anyone know if Cahalaine is still with the squad??
Paul is in America

Gary and Donie simply donít work together

Worked well in first half in dr cullen park this year
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 19, 2018, 12:21:27 AM
Disappointed to hear Paul Cahillane has gone to America, he was working with the squad earlier but was injured. Was there a falling out??
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Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 19, 2018, 12:44:08 AM
John O'Loughlin must be captain for the final in the absence of Stephen Attride, great honour for him and well deserved..



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Post by: Don Draper on June 19, 2018, 09:19:02 AM
How did Gary Walsh go from being our top scorer to barely making it onto the field for five minutes these days. I know that infamous tweet didn't do him any favours but he's hardly still paying for it.
Anyone know if Cahalaine is still with the squad??
Paul is in America

Gary and Donie simply donít work together

Worked well in first half in dr cullen park this year
And that was it
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 19, 2018, 09:19:37 AM
John O'Loughlin must be captain for the final in the absence of Stephen Attride, great honour for him and well deserved..




Brody is vice captain
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Post by: Unlaoised on June 19, 2018, 10:34:03 AM
Wouldn't mind having them four lads in the poster available to pick from Sunday...

Didn't see Murphy but by God the other three could play!

Tickets sales are very slowin Dublin seems as if they are waiting for the Super eights so saving money .


Good buzz about Laois here tho!

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 19, 2018, 10:44:35 AM
How did Gary Walsh go from being our top scorer to barely making it onto the field for five minutes these days. I know that infamous tweet didn't do him any favours but he's hardly still paying for it.
Anyone know if Cahalaine is still with the squad??

Does he work hard enough?
I love these comments, lads busting their neck for their county, out training rain or shine 5days a week and muppets behind their keyboard ponder on a public forum if they're working hard enough  ;D
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 19, 2018, 11:18:04 AM
How did Gary Walsh go from being our top scorer to barely making it onto the field for five minutes these days. I know that infamous tweet didn't do him any favours but he's hardly still paying for it.
Anyone know if Cahalaine is still with the squad??

Does he work hard enough?
I love these comments, lads busting their neck for their county, out training rain or shine 5days a week and muppets behind their keyboard ponder on a public forum if they're working hard enough  ;D
Gary is an out and out finisher. Heíll have a part to play yet and he seems to be still enjoying himself and his role if the semi final celebrations are anything to go by. But an attack needs balance and it doesnít appear to have it when he and Donie are in tandem. Itís just one of those things. But we need him and will need him in the future.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: redsetanta on June 19, 2018, 11:31:14 AM
From memory Gary scored a couple against Dublin when we played them in the quarter final. He is a very useful asset to come in off the bench and Croke Park would not phase him at all. Fair play to Sugrue to hang on to him as other times he may have walked. Just watched Attrides cracking goal in Nowlan Park. Such a pity he won't be there on Sunday!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: blueandwhite1 on June 19, 2018, 03:04:29 PM
I hope we haven't been working too hard on our plan to beat the Dubs without Cluxton:

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0619/971612-its-a-possibility-dubs-coy-on-cluxton-availability/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0619/971612-its-a-possibility-dubs-coy-on-cluxton-availability/)

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 19, 2018, 03:09:08 PM
I hope we haven't been working too hard on our plan to beat the Dubs without Cluxton:

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0619/971612-its-a-possibility-dubs-coy-on-cluxton-availability/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0619/971612-its-a-possibility-dubs-coy-on-cluxton-availability/)

Untruths. In fact, my source tells me Cluxton will never play again.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Unlaoised on June 19, 2018, 03:44:55 PM
The talk is good all around the county its great to be talking about football again not just to the hardcore fans but to everyone.

Seems to be a good buzz and a nice Laois crowd travelling .

Look we travel in hope more than expectation but these lads deserve a big turn out Sunday for the year they have given us especially after last year and how eveyone just wrote off Laois football.

We know the size of the task ahead Sunday but bar maybe 3 teams in the country the task would be the same for most counties facing this Dublin machine.

It could go horribly wrong Sunday and the Dubs could run riot but even if they do it won't be a massive surprise.

We are a small county split down the middle and have very little resources compared to Dublin.

Beating Wexford some people thought might not even be possible and at one stage it looked like we were out but the players have shown grit and drive this year and I hope even if things are going wrong they can still did in and show pride in the jersey.

The general consensus is that Damien O'Connor will go corner back with Evan O'Carroll coming into the line up.

I'm not so sure I think Tom likes two work horses in the half forward line and might eith leave O'Connor there or bring in Strong as a half forward who can deliver a long ball into Donie.

In a perfect world we would have Attride our captain available and also Dicey O'Reilly but its not to be.

I'd also Say Benny Carroll is pushing the likes of Paul Kingston and Ross Munnelly hard for a position .


The rest of the team picks itself with Donoher showing enough the last day to warrant a start and Crowley doing well at half back.

Its a big test for Crowley and Collins and I hope they can deal with the occasion and the Dublin factor in Croker after not being there before.

The two games in HQ should stand to the players as well in getting the little things right like preparation with gear (length of studs, feel of the grass,the way the wind caches the ball,the illusion of the posts and sidelines)all these things play a part and hopefully everything can go our way.


I'm really looking forward to the day no matter what it brings !!!

LAOIS ABU


 
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 19, 2018, 03:50:41 PM
Who is Tom?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 19, 2018, 03:51:59 PM
Judging by his body language, Gavin will likely start cluxton. He also is pretty complementary of Laois here in interview below but everything he says is true enough. Would love the rub of the green, a woeful Dublin performance and our best performance in a decade and then it could be competitive. Up Laois. https://youtu.be/DQCW6eFjc44
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 19, 2018, 03:52:38 PM
That Gavin is some bollocks of a man.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: redsetanta on June 19, 2018, 03:54:58 PM
Gavin would be some poker player. Speaks alot but says nothing. Won't say anything controversial.

Which Tom are you referring to Don? Big or Thumb?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 19, 2018, 04:34:56 PM
Right Lads, I want ye all to learn these words off by heart for next Sunday... OK??


Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Unison on June 19, 2018, 07:10:35 PM
Judging by his body language, Gavin will likely start cluxton. He also is pretty complementary of Laois here in interview below but everything he says is true enough. Would love the rub of the green, a woeful Dublin performance and our best performance in a decade and then it could be competitive. Up Laois. https://youtu.be/DQCW6eFjc44

Very naive. :-[
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 19, 2018, 10:21:19 PM
What's naive?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 19, 2018, 11:02:35 PM
Judging by his body language, Gavin will likely start cluxton. He also is pretty complementary of Laois here in interview below but everything he says is true enough. Would love the rub of the green, a woeful Dublin performance and our best performance in a decade and then it could be competitive. Up Laois. https://youtu.be/DQCW6eFjc44

Very naive. :-[

I think Cluxton starts, I think Laois may lead at half time before going down by 6-10 points as Dublin notch it up but I do think we will force them through the gears.  Unlike Kilkenny 2 years ago where they never came out of first.

Can't see how Munnelly starts on current form but I am sure I will be shouted down on here, I think David Holland stands a good chance of starting as Sugrue may go for an orthodox corner back using the wing forwards to cover back.


Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Giovanni on June 19, 2018, 11:22:37 PM
I assume young Crowley will be detailed to pick up Kilkenny, who is in my opinion one of the players that is essential to Dublinís success. Itís a tough job and an important one but if he can be as concentrated as he was against Murphy, he can do as good a job as anyone else. If he can manage to keep Kilkenny quiet, itís already an important step in the right direction
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Unison on June 19, 2018, 11:33:36 PM
If Crowley can keep Kilkenny quiet, it will be a huge achievement. Good luck to him. However, there are so many more danger men on the Dublin team.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Unison on June 19, 2018, 11:36:12 PM
Right Lads, I want ye all to learn these words off by heart for next Sunday... OK??




Has the Leinster Express lost its senses?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: on the hop on June 19, 2018, 11:57:42 PM
If Crowley can keep Kilkenny quiet, it will be a huge achievement. Good luck to him. However, there are so many more danger men on the Dublin team.

Huge ask for Crowley, has great heart but can suffer physically at times. Mannion's pace and power also a huge danger, Stephen is a huge loss in that regard. I wonder will we offer some sort of protection in the backs like dropping Lillis deep, though then we have to plan for Fenton. Hopefully stop any early goals, punish any mistakes they make and try stay in the game. Interesting to see what way we will line out in the forwards. More than likely Donie will have to be played as close to the goals as possible as he won't have the mobility for Mc Carthy at centre back. Ballyroan are you putting any money on your half time prediction to be ahead. 16/1 for Laois on paddy power
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: portlaoisekid on June 20, 2018, 09:02:07 AM
It such a strange match to look forward to, there is zero expectation on us to win but on the other side this is a massive match. It'll be a proud day regardless of the score for Laois supporters especially those who have followed them religiously over the truly bad days.

It will be great to see Laois involved in a high level game once again and be the centre of attention . I'm delighted for the likes of Munnelly and JOL to get the chance of a Leinster final appearance before its too late.

I really feel we can do damage to the Dublin backline but my big worry is our defence. I just cannot see us stopping them putting up a big score. I reckon we are looking at something like Dublin 5-18 Laois 2-13.



Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 20, 2018, 10:49:49 AM
It such a strange match to look forward to, there is zero expectation on us to win but on the other side this is a massive match. It'll be a proud day regardless of the score for Laois supporters especially those who have followed them religiously over the truly bad days.

It will be great to see Laois involved in a high level game once again and be the centre of attention . I'm delighted for the likes of Munnelly and JOL to get the chance of a Leinster final appearance before its too late.

I really feel we can do damage to the Dublin backline but my big worry is our defence. I just cannot see us stopping them putting up a big score. I reckon we are looking at something like Dublin 5-18 Laois 2-13.





Hard to imagine Dublin being up for this game, I am pretty sure they will start with an air of complacency.  Regardless of any manager how can you possibly tell Dublin players that Laois are a threat and regardless there is no chance they will buy it.  In their heads we are a bad Div 4 team where I see us a middling Div 2 outfit.  I think we give Dublin food for thought once we are on the pitch.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 20, 2018, 10:54:14 AM
It such a strange match to look forward to, there is zero expectation on us to win but on the other side this is a massive match. It'll be a proud day regardless of the score for Laois supporters especially those who have followed them religiously over the truly bad days.

It will be great to see Laois involved in a high level game once again and be the centre of attention . I'm delighted for the likes of Munnelly and JOL to get the chance of a Leinster final appearance before its too late.

I really feel we can do damage to the Dublin backline but my big worry is our defence. I just cannot see us stopping them putting up a big score. I reckon we are looking at something like Dublin 5-18 Laois 2-13.





Hard to imagine Dublin being up for this game, I am pretty sure they will start with an air of complacency.  Regardless of any manager how can you possibly tell Dublin players that Laois are a threat and regardless there is no chance they will buy it.
Not so sure about that. The problem other teams have with Dublin is that the f**kers dont take anyone for granted anymore. Underperforming after 15 minutes cos you're up against some shithouse from Wicklow? Fine, you're off and I'll bring someone else on for you. Even f**king Fenton has decided to add to his game this year because he wants footballer of the year, and as a result is kicking scores off either foot for craic.

I dont believe this Dublin side do complacency, but shur f**k it, we'll see.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Butch Cassidy on June 20, 2018, 11:42:50 AM
No chance of the Dubs being complacent as their bench are all itching to get on.

We need to be brave and
- push up on kick ours
-  keep 3 up at all times
- keep Kilkenny and Fenton quiet (if possible)
- mix up the attack with long balls into Kingston and Evan (who I'd start) along with a running game
- keep it tight for first 20 minutes with Begley and Lilis dropping back

We are in bonus territory but we shouldn't fear the Dubs either. They are missing Connolly, Brogan and possible Cluxton. We have a good man in Sugrue at the helm, committed panel who are learning with every game and developing their style. Let's enjoy it but rattle the Dubs too!!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Clubber Lang on June 20, 2018, 12:45:24 PM
Laois are evens at +15 on the handicap with the bookies. Might be worth a punt.

Mannion is absolutely flying again this year. I worry that we have no one in the full back line who can match his blistering pace. Dillon might be our best bet to try hold him but it will be a tough task. Attride's absence could be sorely noted in the opening ten/fifteen minutes of the game.

While our midfield has been decent at times this year, neither O'Loughlin or Lillis would be noted high fielders. I expect Dublin to push up on our kick outs, forcing Brody to go long where MDM and Fenton would fancy themselves to win the lions share of possession. We will need to be smart with our kick out strategy.

I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two changes in Laois forward line. O'Carroll and Walsh bring ball winning strengths and their attributes might be more suited when matched up against Cooper, McMahon etc. I would fear that the likes of Ross, Paul Kingston will struggle to find room and get on the ball with such tough and tenacious man markers picking them up.

 
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: SCFC on June 20, 2018, 03:27:13 PM
Laois are evens at +15 on the handicap with the bookies. Might be worth a punt.

Mannion is absolutely flying again this year. I worry that we have no one in the full back line who can match his blistering pace. Dillon might be our best bet to try hold him but it will be a tough task. Attride's absence could be sorely noted in the opening ten/fifteen minutes of the game.

While our midfield has been decent at times this year, neither O'Loughlin or Lillis would be noted high fielders. I expect Dublin to push up on our kick outs, forcing Brody to go long where MDM and Fenton would fancy themselves to win the lions share of possession. We will need to be smart with our kick out strategy.

I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two changes in Laois forward line. O'Carroll and Walsh bring ball winning strengths and their attributes might be more suited when matched up against Cooper, McMahon etc. I would fear that the likes of Ross, Paul Kingston will struggle to find room and get on the ball with such tough and tenacious man markers picking them up.
Some good thinking there Clubber.
A problem I foresee is if we are dropping a sweeper or two back is conceding the Dublin kickout. We can't afford to do that. Dillon on Mannion looks a certainty alright.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 20, 2018, 09:56:16 PM
Thats it this forum has finally infected me,  I am now TERMINAL with

OPTIMISM

I am now firmly in the "there is a chance we can win this on Sunday" I am prepared for an awful dose of REALITY Sunday at 18.00 hrs but till then I am

DELIRIOUS

 :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: redsetanta on June 20, 2018, 11:11:07 PM
Ballyroan your account has been hacked.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 21, 2018, 12:22:10 AM
A never to be forgotten day. Let's have some more of this please...
https://twitter.com/i/status/1009497633239396352

And this, One of the best first halves of football we've ever played against the Dubs. This is what we need on Sunday..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcdNumgT8m0
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: portlaoisekid on June 21, 2018, 09:04:50 AM
Thats it this forum has finally infected me,  I am now TERMINAL with

OPTIMISM

I am now firmly in the "there is a chance we can win this on Sunday" I am prepared for an awful dose of REALITY Sunday at 18.00 hrs but till then I am

DELIRIOUS

 :) :) :) :)
Stop right there BallyroanABu, I'm not getting dragged into this optimism business............ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: seafoid on June 21, 2018, 10:47:50 AM
Sugrue is impressive in terms of what he has done with Laois in less than a year.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 21, 2018, 09:27:35 PM
Lets Go !!!!


Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: justinn on June 21, 2018, 10:52:38 PM
Alan Brogan

June 21 2018 7:21 PM

 
LAOIS evoke two very different memories from my time with Dublin. The 2003 clash, our only defeat to them, is probably the one people most vividly recall.

That was a bad loss for us.

We won our first Leinster title after seven years in 2002 with a young team and got within half the width of a post to force an All-Ireland semi-final replay.

So we expected to continue our rapid ascendancy into the realms of All-Ireland contenders, accelerating up a certain path to Sam Maguire.

And then Laois beat us.

Funnily enough, my abiding memory of that game was the row that broke out at half-time, an incident GAA PRO Danny Lynch called ďmore sizzle than steakĒ when the reports of an investigation being launched hit the papers on Monday morning.

A fair few got involved at the time though. Back then, there was a small room off the main corridor in  the tunnel under the Hogan Stand, presumably for officials of some description.

For reasons best known to themselves, Peadar Andrews and Hugh Emerson squared off and wound up in that the little room, sorting it out between themselves.

Now, Peadarís a big man but if I had to pick a fella from Laois Iíd least like to be caged in a small room with, itíd probably be Hughie Emerson!

There was only two points in it that day but the stinging truth was they beat us well.

People were quick to assign the victory as another of Micko miracle and no doubt he brought a lift to the county that year.

But Laois had a good team.

Fergal Byron, Tom Kelly, Joe Higgins, PŠdraic Clancy, ĎBeanoí McDonald, Ross Munnelly Ė strong players who deserved their Leinster medal and probably a bit more that they didnít win.

It set us back, though. And that momentum from í02 vanished.

We had a couple of poor years and thatís why the 2005 Leinster final is such a good memory for me.

Micko was still with Laois at the time and the players had a bit of a swagger about them.

A fair few of them had All-Ireland minor medals and it showed in the way that they carried themselves on the pitch.

But again, that was a good team.

Higgins was as good a man-marker as I ever came across.

Chris Conway and Noel Garvan both had big seasons that year.

ĎMossieí Quinn showed huge guts for us that day and it was him, more than any other Dublin player, that I was most delighted for.

He kicked a free from 46 metres after exactly 70 minutes to level the match and then, four minutes into injury-time, nailed a í45 to win it after I bundled Higgins over the end line.

And we celebrated it like it was a moon landing!

There was 81,025 in Croke Park that day and it was probably the last great Leinster final.

We went on to get a stranglehold on Leinster under ĎPillarí Caffrey after that and Laois had their moments too, but it always felt like we had it over them.

Funnily enough though, they always seemed like a threat.

You werenít quite sure what you were going to get from Laois because they had the talent to spring a big performance from nowhere.

But they probably never made full use of their generation of underage stars and theyíve chopped and changed managers a lot over the last decade.

That they havenít been in a Leinster final in 11 years, given the paucity of contenders in the province in that time, probably tells its own story.

But theyíre on a roll this year, even if the early part of it was spent in Division 4.

They showed admirable patience and nerve to grind Carlow down in a dangerous semi-final two weeks ago but Sunday will be a test of an altogether different nature.

Dublin were poor in the second half against a Longford team with 14 men, so Iíd expect a reaction.

John Sugrueís team donít have it in them to beat Dublin on Sunday but a performance could go a long way to making sure they get the best out of the rest of their summer.

Theyíll only be one win away from a spot in the ĎSuper 8sí on Sunday evening. Thatís an opportunity they canít let slip through their fingers.

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 22, 2018, 10:13:55 AM
Fine article by Ciaran Whelan in the herald below about Laois' chances against Dublin. I think Ciaran has always rated the talent in Laois, he always has a good word to say about us on Sunday game etc. He was mooted to be our new manager in years past, who knows how that would have worked out. Anyway, here's the article: https://m.herald.ie/sport/gaa/laois-have-skills-to-give-dublin-a-real-leinster-final-test-37035493.html
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Joeythelips on June 22, 2018, 10:19:06 AM
It really is a strange game on Sunday, the heart cries out for a Laois performance of the ages and really put it up to the Dubs, whereas the head struggles to see how we will beat the spread of 15 points.  Looking at Laois logically if they were to perform to their maximum they would be a competative Division 2 side at best, but they would struggle in the top tier, and now they meet teh big dog from the top tier.

Regardless of results all most posters have wanted on here is to see Laois be well organised and go out and give it 100%, they are certainly doing it so far this year which is a joy to see. We can ask no more of them if they do the same Sunday. Best of luck Lads
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: High Fielder on June 22, 2018, 10:52:54 AM
Bonus territory for us. We've achieved as much as we could possibly have expected in Sugrue's first year. I hope the players enjoy the occasion and give it a good lash. Dublin are streets ahead of us in so many ways but we need to harness that and allow it to make us better too. Good luck to all. I'm very proud of what we've done this year anyway.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 22, 2018, 12:46:59 PM
Agreed, high fielder. Fantastic year for Laois, given the context. Even if we see 2 fairly big losses to Div 1/2 teams over the next 2 games, it's still been a very good year for Laois. In that respect, I think the players will really enjoy the occasion on Sunday with no pressure or expectation on their backs. Hopefully we can *unlaois a good performance, and as Sugrue says, let's see where that can take us.

Expecting a similar team named as against Carlow but it'll be interesting to see if Sugrue opts for Holland in or O Connor to move back etc. Really hoping that Evan O carroll is named in starting 15 as I think he can cause damage. The good news for us is that we do have 4/5 players who can cause problems for Dublin; we're not just relying on 1 man up there. Any one of Donie, P Kingston, Ross on his day, Evan and Niall Donoher can pose questions. We also have a good spine with Begley, Timmons, Brody, Lillis and JOL all having good years so far, and the likes of Dillon, Collins and Crowley all very impressive. I know Dublin are at the top of the perch, I'm just looking forward to the occasion really, Best of luck and big respect to all involved.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: redsetanta on June 22, 2018, 12:57:56 PM
There should be a good crowd from Laois on Sunday. Most people I talk to are going and I have a brother flying in from London Sunday morning. I'm sure he won't be the only one. Others who wouldn't normally go to games are also heading to Croke Park.
Weather will be good and hopefully there's plenty of blue and white in the stands for the lads when they take to the field. People are buying into the honesty of effort from all involved, here's to a great day on Sunday.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 22, 2018, 02:25:03 PM
Some very good, interesting audio interviews with Colm Begley, JOL, Niall Donoher and Brian Glynn pre Dublin, are on this Midlands 103 soundcloud page below. Worth a listen, in my opinion - all the lads seem to be in a good mindframe for the game :

https://soundcloud.com/midlandssport/tracks
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: SCFC on June 22, 2018, 10:06:02 PM
No room for sentiment anyway with Ross dropped! :o
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: on the hop on June 22, 2018, 10:23:00 PM
Looks like we are going long ball, with Donie and Evan inside. Evan is going to have to really run hard as Donie isn't the most mobile. Best we can hope for
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Helix on June 22, 2018, 10:51:21 PM
No room for sentiment anyway with Ross dropped! :o

Figured as much Ross would be dropped. Hopefully will be an addition as a sub. I assume Damo oíconor will drop back and leave Kingston and OíCarroll inside. Hopefully be in the game by half time at least and give it a right crack. Canít wait!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Laoiseabu on June 22, 2018, 11:52:01 PM
Whatís our biggest ever losing  margin in championship ?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: redsetanta on June 23, 2018, 12:24:20 AM
Why?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 23, 2018, 12:28:36 AM
Lads, this is a strong team, plenty of youth, experience and skill and a strong bench too. No reason why we can't really put it up to them...


Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Laoiseabu on June 23, 2018, 12:34:51 AM
Just wondering cause letís face it we have a tough task on Sunday as Longford and Wicklow found out
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: vetoldthe on June 23, 2018, 01:50:09 PM





















GRAHAM GERAGHTY    NO LOVE FOR US,

John Sugrueís men are possibly the worst team to reach a Leinster final for some time. I have no faith in them at all.

They got there on merit and beat what they had in front of them but they needed extra-time to get over Wexford.

The OíMoore men easily defeated Westmeath and then won an ugly game against Carlow. With Kildare gone, it turned out they had the easy side of the draw.

They wonít get anywhere near Dublin and wonít make the Super Eights either because whoever comes through the back door will end their misery.

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 23, 2018, 02:09:35 PM
If Laois had the easy side of the draw, as Graham claims, then what do you call Dublin's path - beating Wicklow and Longford. What a dope. He's a racist sc**bag (just look up his history) and a very poor "journalist".
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 23, 2018, 03:15:48 PM





















GRAHAM GERAGHTY    NO LOVE FOR US,

John Sugrueís men are possibly the worst team to reach a Leinster final for some time. I have no faith in them at all.

They got there on merit and beat what they had in front of them but they needed extra-time to get over Wexford.

The OíMoore men easily defeated Westmeath and then won an ugly game against Carlow. With Kildare gone, it turned out they had the easy side of the draw.

They wonít get anywhere near Dublin and wonít make the Super Eights either because whoever comes through the back door will end their misery.
What would you expect from a pig except an oink?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 23, 2018, 10:50:57 PM
If Laois had the easy side of the draw, as Graham claims, then what do you call Dublin's path - beating Wicklow and Longford. What a dope. He's a racist sc**bag (just look up his history) and a very poor "journalist".

Some Footballer though
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: jimbob2 on June 23, 2018, 10:55:32 PM
Havant you noticed Laois abu is a bigger bollox than Geraghty, prob Kildare / Offaly.   Laois with probably a weaker team than we have put out in last seven / eight years but better prepared will surprise a lot of people.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Laoiseabu on June 23, 2018, 11:03:58 PM
Iím a bollix ????
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: on the hop on June 24, 2018, 01:21:43 AM
I dream of a win, but fear what happened to cork tonight awaits us. The gulf in divisions was telling. I hope we have a right rattle at this.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: portlaoisekid on June 24, 2018, 08:16:15 AM

As geraghy puts it, we will be put out of our misery soon, at least we won't have the misery of being a Meath racist wan#er all our lives to put up with.



















GRAHAM GERAGHTY    NO LOVE FOR US,

John Sugrueís men are possibly the worst team to reach a Leinster final for some time. I have no faith in them at all.

They got there on merit and beat what they had in front of them but they needed extra-time to get over Wexford.

The OíMoore men easily defeated Westmeath and then won an ugly game against Carlow. With Kildare gone, it turned out they had the easy side of the draw.

They wonít get anywhere near Dublin and wonít make the Super Eights either because whoever comes through the back door will end their misery.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: merman on June 24, 2018, 08:56:39 AM
Best of luck to the lads today. They've rekindled a passion for Laois football this summer and regardless of today's outcome, they've had a really positive year.

There's a good crowd travelling from the hurling end of the county so fingers crossed we can make a bit of noise up there. Safe travels all!

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 24, 2018, 10:01:55 AM
Judging by his body language, Gavin will likely start cluxton. He also is pretty complementary of Laois here in interview below but everything he says is true enough. Would love the rub of the green, a woeful Dublin performance and our best performance in a decade and then it could be competitive. Up Laois. https://youtu.be/DQCW6eFjc44

Very naive. :-[

I think Cluxton starts, I think Laois may lead at half time before going down by 6-10 points as Dublin notch it up but I do think we will force them through the gears.  Unlike Kilkenny 2 years ago where they never came out of first.

Can't see how Munnelly starts on current form but I am sure I will be shouted down on here, I think David Holland stands a good chance of starting as Sugrue may go for an orthodox corner back using the wing forwards to cover back.

Not a million miles off Munnelly dropped, orthodox defender picked (I went for wrong one). Cluxton starts
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: ILikeStrawberryJam on June 24, 2018, 10:38:29 AM
Are we in misery Geraghty ? Are you not referring to your own county perhaps?

We will prob get well bet today as every team has in leinster has by this dublin machine.

We are wide open to concede goals and could ship 5 or 6 .. but might put up 2-13 ourselves ..we can score

These lads havd restored a bit of pride in the jersey .. im looking forward to today. These matches have really become about can dublin beat the spread +15. If we hold them to single figures and score a bit ourselves id bd happy.
Ilooking forward to seeing a decent laois crowd up in dublin today.

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 24, 2018, 10:55:16 AM
I expect a big Laois performance today, we are in bonus territory but letís not go overdo the situation a bad hammering and we are back to square 1.  Saying that I do think we are on the prepice of a great era in Laois Football.  Big Statement but I think itís true.  Hard to believe a year ago we were squabbling among ourselves over sacking Creedon. 
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Joeythelips on June 24, 2018, 12:48:11 PM
Geraghty is entitled to his opinion, in the cold light of day what he says is true. We are a division 4 team who have beaten 2 division 3 sides and a division 4 team to reach this stage, all 3 of which were beaten in the qualifiers since. Now we play the best team in the country, so to anyoneís eye you would imagine todayís will be a landslide win for the Dubs. One thing not factored into this line of thinking is the experience Laois have. They have all faced the Dubs before, a lot of our lads are well used to big games in Croker. Laois have improved in each game this year and while itís difficult to see them keep todayís score line respectable they are decent footballers who should not be underestimated. Itís a huge test for the players and management to see how far they have come this year.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 24, 2018, 07:52:49 PM
All a supporter really wants is to see their team try their best. We gave our all today. Dublin are just a step too far for us at the moment. Proud of the players and well done to all involved. I'm disappointed with the result but Dublin are just a class act and probably the best team of all time. The players should hold their heads high and let's see how the season continues. In my personal opinion, we'd cause lots of the remaining teams problems, bar the top 6or so. I thought the ref got a lot wrong today at important times, and we missed a lot of chances at important times too. Who knows, it could have been a lot closer as I feel we had them slightly surprised early on. If we took the lead when we should have. . . Lots of ifs and buts but Dublin were the better side. From a proud Laois man.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 24, 2018, 08:31:13 PM
Dublin were hugely impressive the relentless pace to them really needs to be seen in the flesh.  They were good value for their winning margin saying that teams like Laois do not need reffing like that.  Dublin were never losing that game however we donít need a ref playing as a 16th man.  I have yet to see highlights so maybe they proved me wrong but in real time he was a joke.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: redsetanta on June 24, 2018, 08:52:58 PM
Fair point we were never going to win but I have never seen a softer penalty. Couple of dubious frees. Bad stuff but doesnít take away from how poo both Donie and Evan were putting the ball over the bar! As bad as Dublin were I the first half we were worse in the second. Awful shite in second half.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: High Fielder on June 24, 2018, 09:12:42 PM
The pace and natural ability of Dublin is frightening. Even allowing for the fact that they are far superior to us, I still saw bits and pieces of improvement in our play. In many ways, there's a pointlessness to fixtures like the one today that the GAA simply have to address. It's becoming a disincentive getting into Leinster Finals and that shouldn't be the case. I hope the players are big enough as a group to take this on the chin and move on. Today doesn't define our season because we were simply out of our depth
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: ILikeStrawberryJam on June 24, 2018, 09:37:02 PM
Well summed up high fielder.
They scored 1 25 which is fair enough but i thought wed score more than 10.
Donie and evan had a bad day at the posts. Donie usedto be consistent but hes v inconsistent this season.
A lot of progress made but went up too many levels today.
Stop giving dublin money and invest heavily in counties like laois would help a bit.

Brody was outstanding today. After that it was a mixed bag.
Still capable of of getting to super 8s but were not ready for it yet.
We are a long term work in progress but great strides made by mgmt and players
Great to see such a big laois crowd there today .. pity we couldnt have put up a few more scores
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Gold on June 24, 2018, 10:59:38 PM
All a supporter really wants is to see their team try their best. We gave our all today. Dublin are just a step too far for us at the moment. Proud of the players and well done to all involved. I'm disappointed with the result but Dublin are just a class act and probably the best team of all time. The players should hold their heads high and let's see how the season continues. In my personal opinion, we'd cause lots of the remaining teams problems, bar the top 6or so. I thought the ref got a lot wrong today at important times, and we missed a lot of chances at important times too. Who knows, it could have been a lot closer as I feel we had them slightly surprised early on. If we took the lead when we should have. . . Lots of ifs and buts but Dublin were the better side. From a proud Laois man.

Agree with all. Ref was a joke for Laois. Like if you were a ref would you not make Dublin work for their frees a bit? He literally melted under thebpressure of the Hill. Laois couldn't buy a free. Was like watchin Man Utd gettin all the decisions ffs

The thing about it was....they were all at crucial times in the 1st half. Underdogs need to get ahead to have a chance...the missed goal chance that went over the bar couldve been a turning point.  It was 2 on 1 ffs with Donie inside and he blazed over off balance. It was akin to being 2 on 1 in Basketball and shooting for a 3 instead of drawing the man and taking it to the hoop for a dunk.

Loved that Laois actually had a go kicking it early and high into Donie but they didnt (i know he missed some) sicken him with enough ball imo. If i was a player id give him ball after ball...he had the beating of McMahon and bringing him out the field for 1st 20mins 2nd half killed Laois's threat

Laois keeper was great and its actually great him coming out...gives an extra man out the field (like a 7s tactic) and just works but is hard to keep up that fitness
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Joeythelips on June 25, 2018, 12:49:14 AM
I have to agree with the previous posters, I think Laois gave it everything and were just up against a far superior outfit. But in saying that we exposed the frailties in their back line in the first half but crucially could not fully make it count in the first half. Our use of the foot pass was very good at times, but you can tell we have been plying our trade at a lower level. It may sound odd considering they conceded 1-25 but i thought our defence played very well in the first half, in the sweltering heat they worked tirelessly when there were waves of Dublin attacks coming at them. It was a  penalty in my opinion but the ref did Donie no favours. Donie himself did not have a great game, especially from placed balls, the missed free just before halt time was a sickner. But we also had a great goal opportunity when Farrell broke through but Donie ran across his path which ruined it.

In fairness the Dubs are some animal, I genuinely felt sorry for our lads when after a battling so hard in the firs halt, the Dubs bring on Jack McCaffrey for the second and he was bombing it through the middle before long. It shows what an amazing squad they have.

For Laois I thought Begley was outstanding in the first half and also Brody.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 25, 2018, 02:24:01 AM
Hold on suits our narrative this "Best Team of All Time", I take a different point of view this is the standard and is what we aspire to.  Not some random we have no chance they are far better than us.   Michael Darragh McCauley had an awesome game barely kicking the ball if we want to be great losers that is what we will be I would rather be ungracious losers and moan about eveything.  I hate losing, even games we should lose.  Gracious losers will always be losers lets raise standards and beat these pompous f**kers sooner rather than later.

Kildare were at this crap last year they were beaten by 9, we were beaten by 18 points we gave our best but why is our best no where near good enough.  There is no one outstanding to be beaten by 18.  There is promise but lets not beat around the bush we have to be far better to win.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: High Fielder on June 25, 2018, 08:09:34 AM
Fanciful stuff Ballyroan. I have a dream In GAA terms. Dublin are on a completely different level in so many ways that it would take pages to document the divide between most counties and them. It's an unfair fight and one that we cannot win unless we get a freakishly good batch of players or they weaken. I don't really have an issue with Dublin being as powerful as they are, but I do have a problem with going up there after a good season and taking that sort of beating. It no longer serves its purpose as a fitting end to the two best teams in a competition. The same is largely true in most Provinces. Dublin are a semi professional and in some aspects fully professional outfit. To me, there was more than a hint of Lincoln rocking up to play Manchester City yesterday and to be honest, it's a blight on the GAA to be glorying in such a mismatch. I say all that with a deep and fond respect for everything that we stand for, but I know our limitations too.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 25, 2018, 09:07:09 AM
We had golden generations of footballers they won very little in real terms, I think we always have the talent but how we develop these players has always been an issue.  1 Leinster title was a pathetic return, counties like Laois have always ready made excuses and an acceptance of this is the way things are thus this is the way things must always be.   

I do agree with you that the Leinster Championship as it stands does not allow a team to develop.  A hammering like yesterday, if replicated in two weeks time would undo any good work done this year.  It  is probably time to have an All Ireland Intermediate & Junior Championship which has some mechanisms for teams to enter the Senior Championship and some sort incentive for both teams and fans to get behind it.   
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: High Fielder on June 25, 2018, 09:28:36 AM
I won't disagree with you about the poor return in that period. But in the here and now, we are a long way behind. Just looking at the bookmakers odds yesterday it would have taken the sort of shock the like of which has not been seen for us to win. We were 33/1 in a contest with two competitors. Miracle stuff. An insurmountable challenge. The Dublin set up is beyond our wildest imagination and they are leaving behind lads who would easily get into our set up. Good luck to them, but I don't expect to be able to compete with them any time soon.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 25, 2018, 10:14:11 AM
Whatever the gaa do, i do not want Laois to be in a 2nd tier of a championship. Iron sharpens iron and we need to be playing better teamsp consistently to get better. Just like we need to get back up to division 2 to get better. Put us in a competition with wicklow and Waterford and offaly and we won't be getting any better. It's all well and good for the top counties to want a two tier system, but for the likes of Laois who are improving and have the potential to get to division 2 and be competitive over the next few years at a good level, operating at a lower tier in championship would bury us.

Regarding this year, i hope that somehow we can get past our next opponent and to the super 8's. I think we've more to offer than what we showed yesterday, i also think the buzz would be fantastic for the county. Hopefully the lads can get up for the next match, i honestly think we won't be easy to beat for the majority who remain in the competition. Dublin were always going to be far ahead of us but for 25-30 mins we competed. You're only as good as your last match, so I'm hoping we can get some confidence for our next opponent.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: blueandwhite1 on June 25, 2018, 11:06:32 AM
There were plenty of positives yesterday. Laois looked fit, strong, hungry and well organized. Every man ran themselves into the ground and we tried to play some clever football. I was very proud of how we approached the game and the pride in the team and jersey. I think this current team can improve on certain things such as converting your chances when they come. Donie missed too many frees and Evan had a spate of wides. No doubt there was pressure but you have to take your chances to stay competitive. Dublin never slow the ball down, we need to learn to keep it moving. When we were defending, we seemed surprised by their runners off the shoulders. How much can we improve with the current team? a good bit but time is not on our side.

I thought the young lads did well enough yesterday but we are going to be in serious trouble in a couple of years when we don't have lads like Timmons, Strong, Begley, O'Loughlin, Donie and Donoher. Dublin are mega fit and highly organized but they also have fantastically skillful footballers. Nearly everyone can kick a point. We have only one or two players that can consistently score at this level. If Donie had stayed in retirement we might have struggled to kick 5 points yesterday.

In summary, I would say I am optimistic about the current panel and Sugrue but very worried for the future beyond 2019.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Giovanni on June 25, 2018, 11:17:49 AM
It was always going to be a day where everything needed to go right for us and even if it did, the best we could expect was an honourable defeat.

I thought we left Dublin a little bit too much freedom to run at us. I know it's easier said than done but if you give a Dublin player 40 yards of open field, he will build a momentum that's hard to stop - at that stage, it takes only a couple of properly executed passes to create a scoring opportunity. I thought a bit more pressure on the kickouts would have been helpful in particular. I think some of our forwards have to work harder to stop those runs from building pace.

A bit more composure at times might have given us a goal and 3 or 4 points, which might have put a better look on the scoreline. On the other hand, Dublin missed even more.

I do hope they regroup and give the next match one good lash. They deserve a better end to the season.

 

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: on the hop on June 25, 2018, 11:21:34 AM
Don't agree with you tony, a tiered championship is the only way Forward. The gap between the top three and rest of division 1 is big but the teams after that are at nothing. Top level gaa is professional and we neither have the finances, numbers or organisation to bridge that at present possibly never. People regularly quote monaghan as an example of a small county doing well but they squeezing as much as they can out of a good group and are still coming up short. Kildare if they were organised better probably have a chance due to the numbers of juveniles they have coming through.We did well this year because we got to play teams at our level, if we managed to get to the super 8's that would be massive but don't fool yourself on what we would be facing. A tiered championship would benefit us and let us grow in our own space, I would much prefer it that getting repeatedly mangled by a half interested Dublin team who were more thinking about their recovery session in the sea in dollymount afterwards
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 25, 2018, 12:04:40 PM
If you're ok with never competing at the top level ever again, then make a 2tier system. Do you reckon we're going to get closer to division one standard by playing wicklow and leitrim - similarly, do you think kerry, donegal and Dublin are going to get worse by playing the standard of each other? I don't believe the answer is a 2tier system. It will create a massive divide in quality, much greater than it is now. At least in the current system, teams like Laois and cavan and fermanagh could make a breakthrough. I'd much prefer an open draw system.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: South Laois man on June 25, 2018, 12:08:16 PM
The easiest option would be 8 groups of 4 with the top 2 in each group going on to play for Sam and the bottom 2 in eachieving group playing in a secondary competion with all semi finals and finals in Croke Park. This system still gives everyone a shot at Sam with it not being tiered from the start.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on June 25, 2018, 12:12:19 PM
A tiered league and un-tiered cship only serves to make cship more lopsided year after year. If current system is to remain in place the there should be 4 random groups in the league where all teams can get a taste of playing the best teams and learn from them.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Laoiseabu on June 25, 2018, 12:23:05 PM
I would agree with blueandwhite1 looking towards the future Iíd be worried enough. It would frighten Ye to think what happens when very soon Strong, Donoher, Munnelly, Conway, Booth, Begley, Timmons, Johnno , Dillon all go as they are all 30 or over.  Kingston and Lillis are late 20s also but a bit younger.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 25, 2018, 12:23:23 PM
Would a 3 Tier Competition look something like this  ( i am missing somebody)
there is some fairly competitive games at all levels

Tier 1               Tier 2 let it be 12              Tier 3
Dublin              Laois                                Offaly
Mayo               Cork                                 Louth
Tyrone             Tipperary                          Wicklow
Kerry               Kildare                             Westmeath
Donegal           Clare                                Leitrim
Galway            Armagh                            Longford
Monaghan        Fermanagh                       Antrim
Roscommon     Down                               Limerick
                      Meath                              Waterford
                      Cavan                              Wexford
                      Sligo                                New York
                      Carlow                             London

1 up 1 down makes it very tough at all levels.  Since 1940 78 years we have won 1 Leinster is the current system working for us ?   It makes the promotion of the game very hard.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Butch Cassidy on June 25, 2018, 01:56:58 PM
8 groups of 4 based off the league. Top 2 go on to play in yhd 'A' championship and bottom 2 the 'B' championship. B final played in Croke Park with all stars and holidays for the  winners.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: on the hop on June 25, 2018, 02:20:48 PM
8 groups of 4 based off the league. Top 2 go on to play in yhd 'A' championship and bottom 2 the 'B' championship. B final played in Croke Park with all stars and holidays for the  winners.

Definitely better than the current system
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 25, 2018, 02:48:00 PM
The easiest option would be 8 groups of 4 with the top 2 in each group going on to play for Sam and the bottom 2 in eachieving group playing in a secondary competion with all semi finals and finals in Croke Park. This system still gives everyone a shot at Sam with it not being tiered from the start.
I like this option above by south laois man. Seems fair. 3 games per team per group, world cup style with top 2 from each group getting to last 16. Bottom 2 still can claim a decent title while still aiming for Sam at start of competition. Not bad at all.

1 team from each league picked at random in each group. EG

Group 1
Kerry
Meath
Armagh
Carlow

Group 2
Monaghan
Tipperary
Derry
Laois

etc.


I really like the sound of that - it's a very fair system is it not - and exiting. Good for the top teams and good for weaker teams. Also will give more bite to the league because your seeding is based on your league status so promotion will be even more sought after.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Butch Cassidy on June 25, 2018, 04:14:48 PM
Would you like to see the provincials go? 
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 25, 2018, 04:34:22 PM
Not really Butch but it's the only fair way. Look at the 4 finals and the provincials in general this year - poor fare all round. Kerry beat Cork by 17, Dublin beat Laois by 18, Donegal beat Fermanagh by 12 and Galway easily beat Rosscommon. In addition, Rosscommon only had to beat Leitrim to get to the Connaught final - we had to beat 3 teams better than Leitrim to get to the Leinster final. Fair - nah. If Laois was in Connaught, we'd be getting to provincial finals every 2nd year and therefore at worst making the 4th round of the qualifiers nearly every year by default. How would that be fair? It wouldn't. Something needs to change, that is for sure.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Chrimtain on June 25, 2018, 04:51:51 PM
I like the idea of eight groups of four. Although the Provincial Councils would fight their demise, the provincial championships have had their day. With five counties in Connacht and twelve (eleven without Kilkenny) in Leinster, It is a totally unbalanced and unfair system.

Some people say that there would be little interest in the second tier competition. But I disagree, if it was promoted right, and its final played on the same day (or weekend) as the All Ireland Final in Croke Park, it would have a strong appeal. Just look to the degree of excitement generated in the county when Laois picked up a trophy for winning the Div 4 final in April. 

If the GAA don't act soon, the game will die.

 
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 25, 2018, 05:12:42 PM
I like the idea of eight groups of four. Although the Provincial Councils would fight their demise, the provincial championships have had their day. With five counties in Connacht and twelve (eleven without Kilkenny) in Leinster, It is a totally unbalanced and unfair system.

Some people say that there would be little interest in the second tier competition. But I disagree, if it was promoted right, and its final played on the same day (or weekend) as the All Ireland Final in Croke Park, it would have a strong appeal. Just look to the degree of excitement generated in the county when Laois picked up a trophy for winning the Div 4 final in April. 

If the GAA don't act soon, the game will die.
Realistically, only Kerry and Dublin can win an All Ireland anymore. The game is dead.

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: blueandwhite1 on June 25, 2018, 05:14:58 PM
The easiest option would be 8 groups of 4 with the top 2 in each group going on to play for Sam and the bottom 2 in eachieving group playing in a secondary competion with all semi finals and finals in Croke Park. This system still gives everyone a shot at Sam with it not being tiered from the start.
I like this option above by south laois man. Seems fair. 3 games per team per group, world cup style with top 2 from each group getting to last 16. Bottom 2 still can claim a decent title while still aiming for Sam at start of competition. Not bad at all.

1 team from each league picked at random in each group. EG

Group 1
Kerry
Meath
Armagh
Carlow

Group 2
Monaghan
Tipperary
Derry
Laois

etc.


I really like the sound of that - it's a very fair system is it not - and exiting. Good for the top teams and good for weaker teams. Also will give more bite to the league because your seeding is based on your league status so promotion will be even more sought after.

Get rid of the league, scrap the provincial championships, scrap replays, run the 4-team championship qualifier system, and stop playing lip service to the clubs. Each county would have a minimum of 6 games assuming the championship is run off in group stages also. Run it from March to June (4 month inter-county season). Rest of the summer for the clubs.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: blueandwhite1 on June 25, 2018, 05:17:06 PM
P.S. I felt sorry for Arlene Foster and embarrassed for the GAA yesterday having to watch such a one-sided and poor advertisement for the game yesterday in Clones.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 25, 2018, 05:47:05 PM
Realistically, only Kerry and Dublin can win an All Ireland anymore. The game is dead.
I don't agree with that. Donegal and Mayo are not far off, neither are Tyrone or Monaghan on their day. Or Galway for that matter, they look very good. Don't forget, only about 3 or 4 teams can realistically win any league in Europe in any given year (in soccer), doesn't mean it's dead. In fairness, the super 8's this year with or without Laois will be very exciting. Seeing Galway and Donegal this year, I really don't think they'll be far off. Donegal will give Dublin a very good game in a few weeks, no doubt about it.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 25, 2018, 06:05:38 PM
Super 8's will be a massive success that may not be a good thing for the weaker counties
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 25, 2018, 07:35:33 PM
Realistically, only Kerry and Dublin can win an All Ireland anymore. The game is dead.
I don't agree with that. Donegal and Mayo are not far off, neither are Tyrone or Monaghan on their day. Or Galway for that matter, they look very good. Don't forget, only about 3 or 4 teams can realistically win any league in Europe in any given year (in soccer), doesn't mean it's dead. In fairness, the super 8's this year with or without Laois will be very exciting. Seeing Galway and Donegal this year, I really don't think they'll be far off. Donegal will give Dublin a very good game in a few weeks, no doubt about it.
If Mayo were going to win itís theyd have won it by now
Tyrone arenít good enough
Monaghan arenít good enough
Donegal show promise
Galway show promise

Dublin and Kerry are going to carve this shit up for decades, even more than they have up to now.

The rest of us are left with our mickeys in our hands while they make the sweet sweet love.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Chrimtain on June 25, 2018, 07:37:47 PM
Are the draws for the qualifiers rigged? I have a hunch that they maybe. One thing is for sure, in order to provide them with a handy route into the Super 8s, Laois will be drawn to play Mayo (if they beat Kildare) or Tyrone. Laois will not be drawn to play the winners of Clare v Armagh. If we get Mayo, Laois will have to travel to Roscommon. If its Tyrone, they'll probably make us travel to Clones. I'll never forget the time they made us travel to the neutral ground of Carrick on Shannon for a match with Donegal in the last round of the qualifiers a number of years ago.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Butch Cassidy on June 25, 2018, 08:54:41 PM
Delighted Kildare have taken a stand against the GAA. We should have done similar when our game was moved to Nowlan Park. GAA on a slippery slope the last few years driven by greed. Dubs playing 2 super 8 games in Croker is another joke.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Chrimtain on June 25, 2018, 09:01:53 PM
Delighted Kildare have taken a stand against the GAA. We should have done similar when our game was moved to Nowlan Park. GAA on a slippery slope the last few years driven by greed. Dubs playing 2 super 8 games in Croker is another joke.

Of course our County Board didn't have the balls to do as Kildare have done.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: ILikeStrawberryJam on June 25, 2018, 09:50:13 PM
Don youre some crack. Im giving up on the gaa altogether and taking up line dancing.

1. Stop giving the dubs money.. THEY DONT NEED IT!!
2. Tiered championship
3. Shout out to Kildare
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: redsetanta on June 25, 2018, 10:26:27 PM
Kildare v Mayo will be the big story of the summer. Interesting to see how it pans out.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 25, 2018, 10:38:01 PM
Don youre some crack. Im giving up on the gaa altogether and taking up line dancing.

1. Stop giving the dubs money.. THEY DONT NEED IT!!
2. Tiered championship
3. Shout out to Kildare
Line dancing is dead. Pole Dancing is where its at.

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: SCFC on June 26, 2018, 09:34:19 AM
This Kildare game will go ahead in Croker or not at all.
Ultimately Croker Park have Kildare GAA over a barrel with the whole St Conleths proposed redevelopment. Not to mention the "bailout" a few years ago.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 26, 2018, 10:07:55 AM
This Kildare game will go ahead in Croker or not at all.
Ultimately Croker Park have Kildare GAA over a barrel with the whole St Conleths proposed redevelopment. Not to mention the "bailout" a few years ago.
Precisely. Kildare may get a few bob, but they should wind their f**king necks in and not be biting the hand that feeds.
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Post by: High Fielder on June 26, 2018, 10:08:36 AM
That's what they like to think SCFC. They are not a private entity. They can't behave like that. f**k them anyway. They've fucked us over in the past and I was embarrassed by our weakness in the face of it. Never any talk of playing a Leinster final in Portlaoise. For once I stand in solidarity with our Flourbag neighbours
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 26, 2018, 10:14:25 AM
That's what they like to think SCFC. They are not a private entity. They can't behave like that. f**k them anyway. They've fucked us over in the past and I was embarrassed by our weakness in the face of it. Never any talk of playing a Leinster final in Portlaoise. For once I stand in solidarity with our Flourbag neighbours
Not the same. We had a stadium capable of hosting the game. Kildare have a shithole carpark. We put the time and effort into keeping OMP up to standard, Kildare pissed it against a wall in Armagh.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Unlaoised on June 26, 2018, 10:14:38 AM
Fitness was a big factor Sunday we just weren't used to that pace of football but we did well for 30 minutes very well infact.

Brody and Begley were the standout players and I was proud of the team.

The best support they have got in a long long time as well was a great atmosphere up there when Kingston kicked them two points in the first half the roar was unreal !

Bring on the super 8s we might loose every game but waht an experience and what a chance to creat history ...Would love to see Kerry up here in Portlaoise!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 26, 2018, 10:23:51 AM
Fitness was a big factor Sunday we just weren't used to that pace of football but we did well for 30 minutes very well infact.

Brody and Begley were the standout players and I was proud of the team.

The best support they have got in a long long time as well was a great atmosphere up there when Kingston kicked them two points in the first half the roar was unreal !

Bring on the super 8s we might loose every game but waht an experience and what a chance to creat history ...Would love to see Kerry up here in Portlaoise!

Gareth Dillon was outstanding.

Truth be told, no Laois man left us down on Sunday. We should be very proud of them all. We're not at their level, I fear no one is at present, but we've a lot to work on, and a lot of reasons to feel better about ourselves. If you meet a Laois player this week, tell them as much.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: High Fielder on June 26, 2018, 10:36:06 AM
Conleths has a 9 or 10,000 capacity and sometimes you can't always get tickets for an event. The Kildare players want this and Health and Safety isn't an issue. Some big teams in England often play in grounds with small capacities and not a word about it. The GAA are dictators and just squeezing every last buck out of it. We rolled over and got our bellies tickled over Nowlan Park and I say fair play to Kildare.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 26, 2018, 10:40:37 AM
Conleths has a 9 or 10,000 capacity and sometimes you can't always get tickets for an event. The Kildare players want this and Health and Safety isn't an issue. Some big teams in England often play in grounds with small capacities and not a word about it. The GAA are dictators and just squeezing every last buck out of it. We rolled over and got our bellies tickled over Nowlan Park and I say fair play to Kildare.
Excuse me, but we didn't roll over. We challenged it at every channel available to us. Every county in Leinster voted against us and fucked us over. Kildare were one of those counties that turned a blind eye to us and voted with the Leinster Council.

Lets see how this plays out for Kildare before commending them for biting off the hand that feeds them.

Meanwhile, Kildare GAA should be asked, why is their ground such a kip. We had an 18,000 stadium, we had reason to be aggrieved.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Laoiseabu on June 26, 2018, 10:44:24 AM
No one is at there level???? Kerry might have something to say bout that and Mayo should of beaten them in the last two all Irelandís so they are not far ahead of a few up there . Also Galway drew with them in the league and should of won , then narrowly lost to them by a few points in the league final.Think Monaghan bet them in the league . I expect a few teams to really really push them this year and maybe even catch them.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: High Fielder on June 26, 2018, 10:48:20 AM
We played the game. We buckled. Sometimes you have to stand up for what is right. Hopefully we get to another Leinster final and our boys have the stones to ask can it be played in Portlaoise. I see your points about the bailout etc Don but that's not really the issue just now.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 26, 2018, 10:50:58 AM
No one is at there level???? Kerry might have something to say bout that and Mayo should of beaten them in the last two all Irelandís so they are not far ahead of a few up there . Also Galway drew with them in the league and should of won , then narrowly lost to them by a few points in the league final.Think Monaghan bet them in the league . I expect a few teams to really really push them this year and maybe even catch them.
Kerry will be at their level when they beat them in Championship and not before.

Mayo shoulda woulda coulda bulled their mothers, they never got over the line.

League means nothing.

Pushing them is grand, we pushed them for 35 minutes. Losers bitch and moan, winners go home and f**k the prom queen.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 26, 2018, 10:52:31 AM
We played the game. We buckled. Sometimes you have to stand up for what is right. Hopefully we get to another Leinster final and our boys have the stones to ask can it be played in Portlaoise. I see your points about the bailout etc Don but that's not really the issue just now.
We buckled because we were on our own. We buckled because every County in Leinster fucked us over and turned the other way. Kildare may think they have public on their side, but that will mean f**k all in the long run. They'll take their hush money later in the week, and Cian O Neill will be pissed off he let the distraction get to his players.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: High Fielder on June 26, 2018, 11:00:38 AM
Maybe so and deep down I'm guessing that's how it will pan out. But maybe this is something worth fighting for and taking it as far as it goes. There is no legal obligation on Kildare (so far) to play in Croke Park and there wasn't on us to play in Kilkenny. The GAA will be embarrassed and humbled by a no show and they have needed that jolt for a long time
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: OTF on June 26, 2018, 11:04:19 AM
Iíd give them some chance against the winners of Armagh and Clare and that would be a good measure of how far weíve come and of the others IMO no chance
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: High Fielder on June 26, 2018, 11:07:20 AM
You were right about the hush money Don. Sean Kelly proposing it as compensation. I have to say that would steel my resolve even further

Anyway, I've interrupted this thread enough. Apologies to all
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 26, 2018, 11:08:24 AM
Maybe so and deep down I'm guessing that's how it will pan out. But maybe this is something worth fighting for and taking it as far as it goes. There is no legal obligation on Kildare (so far) to play in Croke Park and there wasn't on us to play in Kilkenny. The GAA will be embarrassed and humbled by a no show and they have needed that jolt for a long time
And I dont disagree with that but, I make these two points and let it go then:

They've done f**k all with Newbridge over the past 20 years and thats on them.
They had a chance stand with us in 2015 and turned their backs on us, like every other county in Leinster. Our CB shouldn't be slow in reminding them of that too when and if they come looking for support.

Kildare should take their hush money, do a deal on either selling Conleths or redeveloping it, and move on.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 26, 2018, 11:10:52 AM
Iíd give them some chance against the winners of Armagh and Clare and that would be a good measure of how far weíve come and of the others IMO no chance
Hard to disagree. A lot depends on how we bounce back from Sunday. They're in the gym tonight, and out tomorrow night. I'd love a crack off either of the above two. Failing that, its a descending scale of Mayo-Tyrone-Monaghan, depending on venues, most likely Croke Park double headers inevitably.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Chrimtain on June 26, 2018, 11:18:21 AM
Fitness was a big factor Sunday we just weren't used to that pace of football but we did well for 30 minutes very well infact.

Brody and Begley were the standout players and I was proud of the team.

The best support they have got in a long long time as well was a great atmosphere up there when Kingston kicked them two points in the first half the roar was unreal !

Bring on the super 8s we might loose every game but waht an experience and what a chance to creat history ...Would love to see Kerry up here in Portlaoise!

Is there a case for playing Graham Brody out the field? It seems to me he would make a very strong attacking half back.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 26, 2018, 11:20:36 AM
Fitness was a big factor Sunday we just weren't used to that pace of football but we did well for 30 minutes very well infact.

Brody and Begley were the standout players and I was proud of the team.

The best support they have got in a long long time as well was a great atmosphere up there when Kingston kicked them two points in the first half the roar was unreal !

Bring on the super 8s we might loose every game but waht an experience and what a chance to creat history ...Would love to see Kerry up here in Portlaoise!

Is there a case for playing Graham Brody out the field? It seems to me he would make a very strong attacking half back.
God no. He's magnificent where he is. Out the field, he's just another player.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Chrimtain on June 26, 2018, 11:24:01 AM
Iíd give them some chance against the winners of Armagh and Clare and that would be a good measure of how far weíve come and of the others IMO no chance
Hard to disagree. A lot depends on how we bounce back from Sunday. They're in the gym tonight, and out tomorrow night. I'd love a crack off either of the above two. Failing that, its a descending scale of Mayo-Tyrone-Monaghan, depending on venues, most likely Croke Park double headers inevitably.

As I have said before, we will not be drawn against the winners of Armagh and Clare. The GAA do not want us playIng in the Super 8s. They will draw us out against Mayo or Tyrone. FACT!!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Chrimtain on June 26, 2018, 11:31:13 AM
Fitness was a big factor Sunday we just weren't used to that pace of football but we did well for 30 minutes very well infact.

Brody and Begley were the standout players and I was proud of the team.

The best support they have got in a long long time as well was a great atmosphere up there when Kingston kicked them two points in the first half the roar was unreal !

Bring on the super 8s we might loose every game but waht an experience and what a chance to creat history ...Would love to see Kerry up here in Portlaoise!

Is there a case for playing Graham Brody out the field? It seems to me he would make a very strong attacking half back.
God no. He's magnificent where he is. Out the field, he's just another player.

I could be wrong, but it seems to me that he has the ability to be more than 'just another player' out the field. I'd go so far as to suggest he might be up there with Tom Kelly.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 26, 2018, 11:38:38 AM
Fitness was a big factor Sunday we just weren't used to that pace of football but we did well for 30 minutes very well infact.

Brody and Begley were the standout players and I was proud of the team.

The best support they have got in a long long time as well was a great atmosphere up there when Kingston kicked them two points in the first half the roar was unreal !

Bring on the super 8s we might loose every game but waht an experience and what a chance to creat history ...Would love to see Kerry up here in Portlaoise!

Is there a case for playing Graham Brody out the field? It seems to me he would make a very strong attacking half back.
God no. He's magnificent where he is. Out the field, he's just another player.

I could be wrong, but it seems to me that he has the ability to be more than 'just another player' out the field. I'd go so far as to suggest he might be up there with Tom Kelly.
Its a different ball game just sauntering out the field occasionally, than chasing a f**ker like Ciaran Kilkenny around the field.

Brody is excellent at what he does, he at best decent out the field. Why take away that asset.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: blueandwhite1 on June 26, 2018, 11:39:30 AM
Fitness was a big factor Sunday we just weren't used to that pace of football but we did well for 30 minutes very well infact.

Brody and Begley were the standout players and I was proud of the team.

The best support they have got in a long long time as well was a great atmosphere up there when Kingston kicked them two points in the first half the roar was unreal !

Bring on the super 8s we might loose every game but waht an experience and what a chance to creat history ...Would love to see Kerry up here in Portlaoise!

Is there a case for playing Graham Brody out the field? It seems to me he would make a very strong attacking half back.
God no. He's magnificent where he is. Out the field, he's just another player.

I could be wrong, but it seems to me that he has the ability to be more than 'just another player' out the field. I'd go so far as to suggest he might be up there with Tom Kelly.

Troll surely? You have obviously never seen Tom Kelly playing in the flesh at his best!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Joeythelips on June 26, 2018, 11:52:16 AM
Iíd give them some chance against the winners of Armagh and Clare and that would be a good measure of how far weíve come and of the others IMO no chance
Hard to disagree. A lot depends on how we bounce back from Sunday. They're in the gym tonight, and out tomorrow night. I'd love a crack off either of the above two. Failing that, its a descending scale of Mayo-Tyrone-Monaghan, depending on venues, most likely Croke Park double headers inevitably.

I watched Meath v Tyrone and  thought Tyrone were very lucky to get out with a win.  Themselves and Monaghan are above Laois in terms of development but I think Ulster football is in decline. Their is no doubt that Laois will be the team everyone wants to get in the next round however. A team from Div 4 who don't play a blanket defence and just shipped a hammering. I thought Laois showed sparks of progress in the first half against Dublin, hopefully they can give a better account of themselves in the qualifiers.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: OTF on June 26, 2018, 12:00:55 PM
Iíd give them some chance against the winners of Armagh and Clare and that would be a good measure of how far weíve come and of the others IMO no chance
Hard to disagree. A lot depends on how we bounce back from Sunday. They're in the gym tonight, and out tomorrow night. I'd love a crack off either of the above two. Failing that, its a descending scale of Mayo-Tyrone-Monaghan, depending on venues, most likely Croke Park double headers inevitably.

As I have said before, we will not be drawn against the winners of Armagh and Clare. The GAA do not want us playIng in the Super 8s. They will draw us out against Mayo or Tyrone. FACT!!

Something that might happen in the future can not be fact, I like yourself have my suspicions.
I thought all along we were going to draw Kildare which canít still be ruled out I suppose.
Clare and Armagh are near our level,we performed poorly again Clare recently and for that reason it would give us some measure of how much we have come on.
I for one would not be looking forward to meeting Kerry in Portlaoise or anywhere else. Dublin at least had the decency to pull up when the game was won, no pulling up with them hungry f*****s.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: OTF on June 26, 2018, 12:24:22 PM
Iíd give them some chance against the winners of Armagh and Clare and that would be a good measure of how far weíve come and of the others IMO no chance
Hard to disagree. A lot depends on how we bounce back from Sunday. They're in the gym tonight, and out tomorrow night. I'd love a crack off either of the above two. Failing that, its a descending scale of Mayo-Tyrone-Monaghan, depending on venues, most likely Croke Park double headers inevitably.

I watched Meath v Tyrone and  thought Tyrone were very lucky to get out with a win.  Themselves and Monaghan are above Laois in terms of development but I think Ulster football is in decline. Their is no doubt that Laois will be the team everyone wants to get in the next round however. A team from Div 4 who don't play a blanket defence and just shipped a hammering. I thought Laois showed sparks of progress in the first half against Dublin, hopefully they can give a better account of themselves in the qualifiers.

Will Armagh want to draw us
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Andy06 on June 26, 2018, 12:28:17 PM
Question.
Is the rule for home advantage to div 3/4 teams applied the whole way through the qualifiers?
I generally remember round 4 of previous years being played in neutral venues as opposed to given to the team drawn first.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: redsetanta on June 26, 2018, 12:36:57 PM
In my opinion I dont think getting to the Super 8's would do anything to progress this team. As someone mentioned while Kerry coming to Portlaoise would be a good occasion they could give us a right hiding and in fairness we could be looking at 3 heavy defeats. I'm not so sure it's the way to go. A gutsy performance against a Mayo or Monaghan but ultimately coming up short would be a better scenario right now for this team. Finish this year on a high, give the lads a break and Sugrue can look forward to the club championship and planning to try and get promoted Div 2.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: galwayman on June 26, 2018, 12:42:39 PM
The clown that runs that MayoGaaBlog is one insufferable tool.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 26, 2018, 12:43:46 PM
The clown that runs that MayoGaaBlog is one insufferable tool.
You would think that  ;D
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: galwayman on June 26, 2018, 01:14:23 PM
The clown that runs that MayoGaaBlog is one insufferable tool.
You would think that  ;D
I somehow managed to post this in the wrong place. Damn iphone :-)
Ah man - nothing to do with where I'm from at all but the lad is arrogant beyond belief. If he was an ice cream he would lick himself.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: The PRO on June 26, 2018, 02:11:51 PM
Maybe so and deep down I'm guessing that's how it will pan out. But maybe this is something worth fighting for and taking it as far as it goes. There is no legal obligation on Kildare (so far) to play in Croke Park and there wasn't on us to play in Kilkenny. The GAA will be embarrassed and humbled by a no show and they have needed that jolt for a long time
And I dont disagree with that but, I make these two points and let it go then:

They've done f**k all with Newbridge over the past 20 years and thats on them.
They had a chance stand with us in 2015 and turned their backs on us, like every other county in Leinster. Our CB shouldn't be slow in reminding them of that too when and if they come looking for support.

Kildare should take their hush money, do a deal on either selling Conleths or redeveloping it, and move on.
Kildare are snookered here. If they hold firm, you can imagine the response they'll get from Tom Ryan when they go with the begging bowl for redeveloping their "stadium".
As Don says, this will be sorted as the week goes on with the promise of a nice few quid for the homeless!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Chrimtain on June 26, 2018, 03:00:01 PM
Maybe so and deep down I'm guessing that's how it will pan out. But maybe this is something worth fighting for and taking it as far as it goes. There is no legal obligation on Kildare (so far) to play in Croke Park and there wasn't on us to play in Kilkenny. The GAA will be embarrassed and humbled by a no show and they have needed that jolt for a long time
And I dont disagree with that but, I make these two points and let it go then:

They've done f**k all with Newbridge over the past 20 years and thats on them.
They had a chance stand with us in 2015 and turned their backs on us, like every other county in Leinster. Our CB shouldn't be slow in reminding them of that too when and if they come looking for support.

Kildare should take their hush money, do a deal on either selling Conleths or redeveloping it, and move on.
Kildare are snookered here. If they hold firm, you can imagine the response they'll get from Tom Ryan when they go with the begging bowl for redeveloping their "stadium".
As Don says, this will be sorted as the week goes on with the promise of a nice few quid for the homeless!

A few quid may satisfy the Kildare County Board, but what about O'Neill and the players? What do they get out of it?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Keyser SŲze on June 26, 2018, 03:25:17 PM
O' Neill is 100% right. But it shouldn't have been him saying it.
In many ways, he can't back down.
The Chairman/Secretary of the CB could have taken this stance, got something behind the scenes, got the game moved to Tullamore/Portlaoise and came out and said "we have been given assurrances regarding this matter into the future".
O' Neill can't do this because it's stuff that isn't within his remit.

I really think this has been a major tactical error. They picked the right battle, one in which they are technically right and will gather maximum public support- big slip up in the approach they took.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 26, 2018, 03:34:55 PM
Maybe so and deep down I'm guessing that's how it will pan out. But maybe this is something worth fighting for and taking it as far as it goes. There is no legal obligation on Kildare (so far) to play in Croke Park and there wasn't on us to play in Kilkenny. The GAA will be embarrassed and humbled by a no show and they have needed that jolt for a long time
And I dont disagree with that but, I make these two points and let it go then:

They've done f**k all with Newbridge over the past 20 years and thats on them.
They had a chance stand with us in 2015 and turned their backs on us, like every other county in Leinster. Our CB shouldn't be slow in reminding them of that too when and if they come looking for support.

Kildare should take their hush money, do a deal on either selling Conleths or redeveloping it, and move on.
Kildare are snookered here. If they hold firm, you can imagine the response they'll get from Tom Ryan when they go with the begging bowl for redeveloping their "stadium".
As Don says, this will be sorted as the week goes on with the promise of a nice few quid for the homeless!

A few quid may satisfy the Kildare County Board, but what about O'Neill and the players? What do they get out of it?
A trip to the Japanese Gardens?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 26, 2018, 03:35:58 PM
O' Neill is 100% right. But it shouldn't have been him saying it.
In many ways, he can't back down.
The Chairman/Secretary of the CB could have taken this stance, got something behind the scenes, got the game moved to Tullamore/Portlaoise and came out and said "we have been given assurrances regarding this matter into the future".
O' Neill can't do this because it's stuff that isn't within his remit.

I really think this has been a major tactical error. They picked the right battle, one in which they are technically right and will gather maximum public support- big slip up in the approach they took.
O'Neill cancelled his press conference at 5 today. The fix is in, Kildare have dipped into the greasy till and come out smiling. O'Neill meanwhile is left seething.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Keyser SŲze on June 26, 2018, 03:37:45 PM
O' Neill is 100% right. But it shouldn't have been him saying it.
In many ways, he can't back down.
The Chairman/Secretary of the CB could have taken this stance, got something behind the scenes, got the game moved to Tullamore/Portlaoise and came out and said "we have been given assurrances regarding this matter into the future".
O' Neill can't do this because it's stuff that isn't within his remit.

I really think this has been a major tactical error. They picked the right battle, one in which they are technically right and will gather maximum public support- big slip up in the approach they took.
O'Neill cancelled his press conference at 5 today. The fix is in, Kildare have dipped into the greasy till and come out smiling. O'Neill meanwhile is left seething.

He's around long enough to have known better.
Kildare could win this one. He couldn't!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: blueandwhite1 on June 26, 2018, 03:57:08 PM
O' Neill is 100% right. But it shouldn't have been him saying it.
In many ways, he can't back down.
The Chairman/Secretary of the CB could have taken this stance, got something behind the scenes, got the game moved to Tullamore/Portlaoise and came out and said "we have been given assurrances regarding this matter into the future".
O' Neill can't do this because it's stuff that isn't within his remit.

I really think this has been a major tactical error. They picked the right battle, one in which they are technically right and will gather maximum public support- big slip up in the approach they took.

Just goes to show that it isn't just our county board that are a cowardly shower of Croke park pleasing bureaucrats. "We'll be right behind you all the way Cian. Go on telly and tell them what you think....."
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 26, 2018, 04:47:56 PM
O' Neill is 100% right. But it shouldn't have been him saying it.
In many ways, he can't back down.
The Chairman/Secretary of the CB could have taken this stance, got something behind the scenes, got the game moved to Tullamore/Portlaoise and came out and said "we have been given assurrances regarding this matter into the future".
O' Neill can't do this because it's stuff that isn't within his remit.

I really think this has been a major tactical error. They picked the right battle, one in which they are technically right and will gather maximum public support- big slip up in the approach they took.

Just goes to show that it isn't just our county board that are a cowardly shower of Croke park pleasing bureaucrats. "We'll be right behind you all the way Cian. Go on telly and tell them what you think....."
Cian needs no encouragement to go on telly
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 26, 2018, 04:55:08 PM
Yep Kildare showing leadership

They owe Croke Park a fortune

Most of their supporters wonít be able to attend the game due to Conleths being tiny.

Jesus the County Board in Laois as far as I can see are doing their best under tough conditions, no real sponsorship and we are not over run with volunteers in clubs.  They ainít perfect but they are a hell of a lot better than some.  I would argue we need more long term planning in youth development and the clubs need to face some realities.  I am not saying they are perfect but as things go they ainít too bad. 

Kildare may win this battle but they will pay for it long term.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Chrimtain on June 26, 2018, 05:11:18 PM
I see that it has been tweeted that the Kildare County Board, or any any other CB in Leinster, did not stand with Laois when they looked to have their match with Dublin in 2012 played in Portlaoise rather than in Kilkenny.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: recyclebin on June 26, 2018, 11:26:16 PM
Some people are awful bitter on here. From close to the border myself , I never like to see Kildare doin well but this time they are in the right and the GAA should follow it's own rules. They need to take a stand here or only the chosen few will actually get home games come the Super 8's.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: OTF on June 27, 2018, 09:56:54 AM
Some people are awful bitter on here. From close to the border myself , I never like to see Kildare doin well but this time they are in the right and the GAA should follow it's own rules. They need to take a stand here or only the chosen few will actually get home games come the Super 8's.

Yes using the GAAís criteria all Dublinís super 8 games will have to be played in CP, which is what the want of course.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 27, 2018, 09:59:34 AM
No everyone else is fine bar a dump in Newbridge because no matter what Kildare say Conleths is not up to scratch.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: High Fielder on June 27, 2018, 10:25:19 AM
Manchester United played in Yeovil. Similar sized stadium. I'm sure Mayo can play in Newbridge. I hope one day we have the balls to ask for a Leinster final to be played in Portlaoise. Its all a bit of a racket and I fully support Kildare in their stance. Of course they'll pay for it in the long run, but that's a racket too. This background stuff with a few CB members and hacks deciding everything has no place in an amateur sport and basically walks over the players and supporters. If they want to apply professional standards to their thinking, then they maybe need to start going professional full stop.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 27, 2018, 10:31:35 AM
Its Wednesday- If it moves to Conleths it will have to be all ticket - The game is fixed for Saturday - This is the GAA - Its too late to move it - The game will go ahead in Croke Park - Kildare will wind their noses in and drink their yummy nourishing soup.

The real opportunity from this is to object to Dublins two home games in the Super 8's. This needs to be done now while there is still time.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 27, 2018, 10:34:36 AM
O Moore Park, Nowlan Park & O Conor Park are a different level to Conleths.  In fairness it would be right for an Leinster Final to go outside Dublin even for novelty but even a moderate crowd like last Sunday's would be difficult to accomadate anywhere else bar Croke Park. 

Exactly where else can accommodate Dublin bar Croke Park, so say you make Dublin go to Parnell Park circa 10,000.  It is still dominated by Dubs and you lose 1 1/2 to 2 million in revenue that makes no sense.  The only place that could take the Dubs in workable numbers is Cork.

Yep soccer is dominated by TV revenue so it's not such a big deal, also Yeovil's stadium is of a decent standard.  GAA revenue is built on attendances, not that this should be the reason that Kildare get denied a home game but I would see no problem if Kildare played in Tullamore or Portlaoise.  The fact is their Stadium is not near capable of holding 10,000 it will be more like 7,000 and I doubt their facilities toilets etc will cope.  I think we should let them all go to Newbridge they won't be in a hurry to do it again after sitting in traffic for 2 hours to get into the place.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: High Fielder on June 27, 2018, 10:43:27 AM
Why are you worried about accommodating the Dubs? How many die hards do the Dubs have? 10,000 max maybe? If the players want to play on their home pitch, they should be let. It's still an amateur sport and I could give you a million examples where massive English clubs got tiny ticket allocations. That's just the way it goes sometimes

Liverpool played AFC Wimbledon. Look at the size of that ground. Come on Ballyroan. Think outside of your CB box here
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 27, 2018, 10:49:25 AM
Laois have about 1200 die hard supporters would you like to see the 10,000 extra that showed up in Dublin last Sunday turned away because only those "lunatics" who go to everything are the only ones to be let in.  If you want to promote the game it should be to as wide an audience as possible, if Dublin can bring 60,000 to 80,000 to Croke Park then that is a good thing.  Kids love it, to go see Man UTD with children is next to impossibe cost wise.  The GAA is many things but I don't see a whole lot unfair about them.  They make some decisions we do not like but the majority are pretty decent looking in.

Its all well and good for Kildare to throw their toys out of the pram now but not so long ago they were cap in hand to Croke Park.  Don't bite off the hand that feeds you.  I would think Kildare should be arguing for more funding for GAA within the county not starting a populist argument for a ground that they failed to develop as they wasted money elsewhere.   I'd say they will be waiting a while for any more money from Croke Park after this, I wonder how long Cian will hang around if the money dries up?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: High Fielder on June 27, 2018, 10:51:46 AM
1200 die hards? Cop on. There were less than 100 in some away league matches in recent years

Those Laois people need to turn out more often and maybe then the machinery can start working properly. One day in the sun at a match we could never win is not proper support. Delighted to see them and all, but hopefully a third of them will be at our first home league match

Yes Kildare will have to row in because you're right, that's how this works. I hope they take their punishment and shame the GAA who are woefully disconnected from the Kildare players who want to play in Newbridge
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 27, 2018, 11:04:01 AM
f**k the Kildare players, and f**k the GPA. I dont recall them having anything to say when we were getting rode by the GAA to go play in Nowlan Park. And now the GPA are out making statements here, while ignoring the shitstorm that the Kildare hurlers are currently in. Which incidentally, the Kildare County Board have very little to say about also. Its incredible.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: High Fielder on June 27, 2018, 11:11:43 AM
I said at the time and I will reiterate it now. We should never have played that game in Nowlan Park. That's the only reason I'm backing Kildare on this. Yes they shafted us and so did everyone else, but in fairness they haven't asked for backing. It's a unilateral decision.

You're right about their hurlers Don. Awful carry on
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 27, 2018, 11:14:09 AM
f**k the Kildare players, and f**k the GPA. I dont recall them having anything to say when we were getting rode by the GAA to go play in Nowlan Park. And now the GPA are out making statements here, while ignoring the shitstorm that the Kildare hurlers are currently in. Which incidentally, the Kildare County Board have very little to say about also. Its incredible.

Kildare Hurlers is a fight worth having.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on June 27, 2018, 11:26:26 AM
7pm in Newbridge. Confirmed.

Let the shitstorm begin.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: High Fielder on June 27, 2018, 11:44:35 AM
Now our CB need to remind them about Nowlan Park at every available opportunity. The GAA sicken my hole. Making it up as they go along, let it be venues, discipline or whatever. No wonder people are walking away in droves
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Andy06 on June 27, 2018, 11:55:21 AM
Caveat to this needs to be that Kildare need to get their ground sorted (either new or upgrade Conleths - if even possible). If this isnt done (or plans to that effect arent made) in 5 years then GAA start cutting their funding.
Its widely known they have a shithole of a ground, they played hardball now to get their home game and fair play to them. But end result has to be a willingness to improve the ground.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Keyser SŲze on June 27, 2018, 12:03:16 PM
f**k the Kildare players, and f**k the GPA. I dont recall them having anything to say when we were getting rode by the GAA to go play in Nowlan Park. And now the GPA are out making statements here, while ignoring the shitstorm that the Kildare hurlers are currently in. Which incidentally, the Kildare County Board have very little to say about also. Its incredible.

Kildare Hurlers is a fight worth having.

And a fight that can't be won!
As wrong as it is, these are the rules that were passed at Congress.
I don't know how these things are never argued about until 6 or 18 months later on the eve of a fixture.
Shows the calibre/attitude/deference of the delegates being sent to these meetings.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on June 27, 2018, 12:07:46 PM
I'm glad this is being played in Kildare now. It'll set a good precedent and this is the way it should be. Fair is fair. We should have had home advantage vs Dublin in 2016 but let's not forget the matter was complicated due to the fact that we had to play wicklow 2 weeks before that, thus meaning that we couldn't campaign properly for it to be in Portlaoise as we had to get over Wicklow first. Anyway, correct decision. Kildare should rightly be ashamed of their home ground though. It should be to the level of OMP or O connor park by now if they had their house in order.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Keyser SŲze on June 27, 2018, 12:14:15 PM
I'm glad this is being played in Kildare now. It'll set a good precedent and this is the way it should be..

To paraphrase Gerry Conlon- "you're an innocent mon!!"
This precedent will quickly become irrelevant once the Rules & Regulations for 2019 are passed by all- with a little modification;

6.2.3 (1) Subsection A (ii) V
All games, at all stages, irrespective of the draw, are subject to fixing by the CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCc.......
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: High Fielder on June 27, 2018, 12:21:42 PM
f**k the Kildare players, and f**k the GPA. I dont recall them having anything to say when we were getting rode by the GAA to go play in Nowlan Park. And now the GPA are out making statements here, while ignoring the shitstorm that the Kildare hurlers are currently in. Which incidentally, the Kildare County Board have very little to say about also. Its incredible.

Kildare Hurlers is a fight worth having.

And a fight that can't be won!
As wrong as it is, these are the rules that were passed at Congress.
I don't know how these things are never argued about until 6 or 18 months later on the eve of a fixture.
Shows the calibre/attitude/deference of the delegates being sent to these meetings.

I agree with that. Feathering their own nests a lot of the time. Said and led
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: The PRO on June 27, 2018, 12:43:03 PM
Caveat to this needs to be that Kildare need to get their ground sorted (either new or upgrade Conleths - if even possible). If this isnt done (or plans to that effect arent made) in 5 years then GAA start cutting their funding.
Its widely known they have a shithole of a ground, they played hardball now to get their home game and fair play to them. But end result has to be a willingness to improve the ground.
I wouldn't.like.to be.the.Kildare officer who goes cap in  hand looking for their next grant off Croker!!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: High Fielder on June 27, 2018, 03:09:47 PM
You make it sound like the Mafia PRO.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: The PRO on June 27, 2018, 04:21:55 PM
You make it sound like the Mafia PRO.
Anyone who doesn't think the GAA works like the Mafia in some ways is very naive.  ;)
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: High Fielder on June 27, 2018, 05:34:00 PM
Oh I don't think anyone is that naive PRO. I think we're well aware of how these elected representatives carry on
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: OTF on June 27, 2018, 09:36:27 PM
Delighted, the GAA would be very happy to have Dublin and Kerry and Kilkenny and Tipp in the AF every year because they donít give two squirts of pucks p**s about any other county.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: OTF on June 30, 2018, 09:38:55 PM
Iíd give them some chance against the winners of Armagh and Clare and that would be a good measure of how far weíve come and of the others IMO no chance
Hard to disagree. A lot depends on how we bounce back from Sunday. They're in the gym tonight, and out tomorrow night. I'd love a crack off either of the above two. Failing that, its a descending scale of Mayo-Tyrone-Monaghan, depending on venues, most likely Croke Park double headers inevitably.

As I have said before, we will not be drawn against the winners of Armagh and Clare. The GAA do not want us playIng in the Super 8s. They will draw us out against Mayo or Tyrone. FACT!!

Something that might happen in the future can not be fact, I like yourself have my suspicions.
I thought all along we were going to draw Kildare which canít still be ruled out I suppose.
Clare and Armagh are near our level,we performed poorly again Clare recently and for that reason it would give us some measure of how much we have come on.
I for one would not be looking forward to meeting Kerry in Portlaoise or anywhere else. Dublin at least had the decency to pull up when the game was won, no pulling up with them hungry f*****s.

Just in bucken case I hope to be wrong on the Kildare prediction 😯
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Joeythelips on July 01, 2018, 12:13:27 PM
Is this accurate:
 Each team will have a home game, an away game and a game at Croke Park. The first group will contain the Munster champions, Connacht champions, Ulster runner-up (or qualifier team that beats them in Round four), Leinster runner-up (or qualifier team that beats them in round four). The second group will be made up of the Ulster champions, Leinster champions, Munster runner-up (or qualifier team that beats them in Round four), Connacht runner-up (or qualifier team that beats them in round four).

So Laois (or their victors will be in with Kerry, Galway & Fermanagh or their victors). The thoughts of getting to Super 8s is exciting even though Laois are probably a year off being at their best development wise under current management. Kerry and Galway would beat us badly I think and while we would do ok against Fermanagh, I don't think Fermanagh would beat many of the qualifiers, a bit like ourselves. I think it would be best for Laois not to draw Armagh, Im not saying we would definitely beat them but we certainly could. Better to get a Kildare, Tyrone or Monaghan and see where we stand after the Dublin game. If they can beat anyr of those then they deserve a place in SUper 8s without a doubt.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 01, 2018, 01:22:30 PM
This is the way it works:



Super 8 Group One
Teams: Kerry, Galway, Fermanagh or Rd.4 qualifier, Laois or Rd.4 qualifier.

Phase 1 July 14/15
Kerry vs Galway @ Croke Park
Fermanagh/Rd.4 qualifier vs Laois/Rd.4 qualifier @ Croke Park

Phase 2 July 21/22
Fermanagh/Rd.4 qualifier vs Galway
Laois/Rd.4 qualifier vs Kerry

Phase 3 August 4/5
Kerry vs Fermanagh/Rd.4 qualifier
Galway vs Laois/Rd.4 qualifier


Super 8 Group Two
Teams: Donegal, Dublin, Cork or Rd.4 qualifier, Roscommon or Rd.4 qualifier.

Phase 1 July 14/15
Dublin vs Donegal @ Croke Park
Cork/Rd.4 qualifier vs Roscommon/Rd.4 qualifier @ Croke Park

Phase 2 July 21/22
Cork/Rd.4 qualifier vs Dublin
Roscommon/Rd.4 qualifier vs Donegal

Phase 3 August 4/5/6
Donegal vs Cork/Rd.4 qualifier
Dublin vs Roscommon/Rd.4 qualifier
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: OTF on July 01, 2018, 03:01:34 PM
Is this accurate:
 Each team will have a home game, an away game and a game at Croke Park. The first group will contain the Munster champions, Connacht champions, Ulster runner-up (or qualifier team that beats them in Round four), Leinster runner-up (or qualifier team that beats them in round four). The second group will be made up of the Ulster champions, Leinster champions, Munster runner-up (or qualifier team that beats them in Round four), Connacht runner-up (or qualifier team that beats them in round four).

So Laois (or their victors will be in with Kerry, Galway & Fermanagh or their victors). The thoughts of getting to Super 8s is exciting even though Laois are probably a year off being at their best development wise under current management. Kerry and Galway would beat us badly I think and while we would do ok against Fermanagh, I don't think Fermanagh would beat many of the qualifiers, a bit like ourselves. I think it would be best for Laois not to draw Armagh, Im not saying we would definitely beat them but we certainly could. Better to get a Kildare, Tyrone or Monaghan and see where we stand after the Dublin game. If they can beat anyr of those then they deserve a place in SUper 8s without a doubt.

Anyone but Kildare, we beat Armagh twice in 2016 probably not at their best at the time but would give us a good idea where we are.
On the other hand big hammering from any of the other 3 would tell us nothing.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Joeythelips on July 02, 2018, 08:48:52 AM
All-Ireland SFC Round 4 draw

Fermanagh v Kildare

Laois v Monaghan

Cork v Tyrone

Roscommon v Armagh

Well there it is, we are in against one of the better Div 1 sides. Huge ask for our lads to beat them but might give us a slightly better yard stick of how much progress we have made. Monaghan are a very strong experienced side who will be red hot favourites to beat Laois comfortably like they did with Leitrim and Waterford. Will it be in Portlaoise or whats the story? Laois certainly need every advantage we can get.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: GAA-SMART on July 02, 2018, 09:01:03 AM
Neutral Venue, Id Guess Mullingar
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 02, 2018, 09:13:52 AM
I'd imagine it would be in Navan, maybe a double header with Kildare and Fermanagh
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: redsetanta on July 02, 2018, 09:23:33 AM
Navan seems to be the most likely venue. Will have times and venues after lunch today!

Glad we didn't draw Kildare to be honest.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Joeythelips on July 02, 2018, 10:04:46 AM
Navan seems to be the most likely venue. Will have times and venues after lunch today!

Glad we didn't draw Kildare to be honest.

Dont think we will beat either but would have preferred Kildare, their forwards are not as good as Monaghans imo. Also Kildare just played a huge energy sapping physical game in the sweltering heat at the weekend which will have taken its toll. Monaghan are all well rested and recovered from the Fermanagh game at this stage. If Laois are up for it we could be in for a decent game if its not one sided as Monaghan are not as defensive as most Ulster teams so let the opposition play.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: The PRO on July 02, 2018, 10:34:41 AM
Didn't we beat Monaghan the last time we met them in a qualifier? Under McNulty? I know a lot has changed since. Not the worst draw though. Tyrone or Kildare would've been horrible.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Laoiseabu on July 02, 2018, 10:53:56 AM
When u say Monaghan fowards are better than kildares who are u talking about? Is Kieran Hughes the big full foward not injured?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: straightred on July 02, 2018, 11:09:29 AM
Didn't we beat Monaghan the last time we met them in a qualifier? Under McNulty? I know a lot has changed since. Not the worst draw though. Tyrone or Kildare would've been horrible.

Laois are on the back of a big beating but they weren't expected to win that so morale shouldn't be low. Monaghan have had ideal preparation - 2 handy games and they now get Laois on a neutral ground. Laois don't set up defensively either - that will suit Monaghan. You'd expect the Div 1  team to win this
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Joeythelips on July 02, 2018, 11:29:45 AM
When u say Monaghan fowards are better than kildares who are u talking about? Is Kieran Hughes the big full foward not injured?

They have plenty of excellent footballers but I was thinking of Conor McManus who is one of the best forwards in the country in my opinion. I watched them against Tyrone and thought they were excellent but they do sometimes struggle against weaker opposition. Laois will be doing well not to ship another serious beating here.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: High Fielder on July 02, 2018, 11:51:30 AM
It goes without saying that it's a big ask for us. Physically, Monaghan ask questions of you, and in that regard, we could be found wanting. I don't think there'll be a hangover from the last day, and we're still ahead of where we expected to be. So enjoy it, give it your best shot and play to win. That's all we can do, and even though I wouldn't be too expectant, I'd be hopeful we can do ourselves credit
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Unlaoised on July 02, 2018, 03:40:44 PM
Will be a tough game physically but not one to fear.

If Laois play well they could trouble Monaghan.

Wiley v Donie will be a good battle ...Dillion will have to pick up McManaus.

I'm hearing its sunday at 2pm in Navan

We have a decent record against the Farney !

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: redsetanta on July 02, 2018, 04:37:08 PM
Be some heat in that place on Sunday at 2pm.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Don Draper on July 02, 2018, 05:11:46 PM
Laois by 5
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 02, 2018, 05:47:58 PM
Would be alot happier if Monaghan had played tougher games than Leitrim & Waterford.  Maybe it won't matter but I would of loved a crack at Kildare as the emotional high of last Saturday will cause them problems this week.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Joeythelips on July 02, 2018, 06:38:25 PM
Would be alot happier if Monaghan had played tougher games than Leitrim & Waterford.  Maybe it won't matter but I would of loved a crack at Kildare as the emotional high of last Saturday will cause them problems this week.

I fully agree, it would be typical Kildare to beat Mayo then lose to Fermanagh. That was a real high intensity game on a hot day which will have taken a lot out of them. It would be an ideal time to face them. Monaghan are in an ideal spot, Laois are a step up from Leitrim but should give them a decent test. I know their game against Dublin in the league was a bit of dead rubber but any team that beats this Dublin side in Croke Park is a serious team in my book.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Tony on July 02, 2018, 09:01:04 PM
Certainly not the worst draw. Monaghan would have to be considered very warm favourites, being a top division team. But I've seen bigger shocks. Honestly i think this will be a step too far this year. But i hope we give it everything and come back stronger next year. I know for a fact the lads won't fear any team; we played without fear vs the dubs. The head says monaghan by 4, heart says Laois by 2.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Unlaoised on July 03, 2018, 09:42:35 AM
Great for the GAA in Laois  to have them two big games in Portlaoise Saturday night it will only add to the buzz about Sunday in Navan!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 03, 2018, 11:07:41 AM
John Sugrue not too happy about Super 8's.                   
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/laois-boss-slams-consumerist-super-8s-852701.html   
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: High Fielder on July 03, 2018, 12:22:47 PM
I agree in principle with Sugrue about the bigger counties getting stronger. Success breeds success and when you throw in the many advantages that are there already for bigger counties, I honestly don't know how the like of ourselves can compete. There is no great plan to make smaller counties competitive because it's just too big a gap to narrow. I even wonder sometimes if county boundaries are an adequate way of sectioning teams in the current climate. Maybe the Dublins and Kerrys of this world belong in a Professional environment with franchises made up of six other teams and just let everyone else carry on as normal in a truly amateur competition. Let's face it, the likelihood of us ever winning another Leinster in our lifetimes is very small even if that sounds overly dramatic
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: redsetanta on July 03, 2018, 03:37:13 PM
I see the handicap is +6. Thought it would have been more than that to be honest.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 03, 2018, 04:03:21 PM
Last year Carlow kept them quiet for a long time with their defensive system before Monaghan finally figured out how to crack it. i hate the way Carlow play but maybe we should learn a bit from that game and go defensive at times during the game ourselves. We can't just go in there all guns blazing and hope to beat them.

There is a big prize at the end of this so we will have to make them work hard to win this and possibly win it ourselves. I firmly believe we have the players to win it but we will have to set up to suit our lads and give them every chance. Hopefully the Kingstons will have a better game than the last time out and with a bit of luck you'd never know...
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship DUBLIN NEXT 24th June(what a season so far!!
Post by: Unlaoised on July 03, 2018, 04:45:53 PM
As usual in this county...One big defeat and you get lads saying Monaghan will hammer us etc etc...

Yes they are rightly favourites and deserve respect but they are no Dublin and we have players that can hurt them.

There is a great pride and spirit in the Laois camp this year and that will take you far in games.

We have one of the best goalies in the country a solid centre back two decent midfielders and one of the top target men in the business ...

Time to be positive and give this a rattle.

If it doesn't happen its been a great adventure this year !

I hope the lads get the support they deserve

2pm on a Sunday isn't the worst time to be fair still early enough to be back with the kids etc...Mine will be decked out in the Laois gear its been like that all summer and its great to see so many Laois tops around the county on boys and girls!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 04, 2018, 12:10:18 AM
Well said Unlaoised, this team have brought us on a great journey this year and at last we can hold our heads up again as Laois football supporters.
I will certainly be in Navan on Sunday to cheer on the lads again and I do believe we can win this one. We have to start believing in ourselves again and I think John Sugrue is instilling that  belief in them this year.
We have only lost one game in the last 11 and that itself brings a certain amount of confidence to a squad. Kildare were at an all time low after the Carlow defeat and look what happened there. A bit of confidence and fire in the bellies now has them looking at a place in the Super 8's and there's no reason we can't be there too..
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: portlaoisekid on July 04, 2018, 09:13:50 AM
Sunday is a great opportunity for Laois to test ourselves against a really good team. I definitely think we can be very competitive and win, the Dublin match will have brought this team on further than all the matches combined this year.

I would be worried about our defence but I really fell we can win and Navan is a great place to play football.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Don Draper on July 04, 2018, 09:42:04 AM
Monaghan have never beaten us in the championship lads. Dont f**king forget that. Never.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Unlaoised on July 04, 2018, 10:13:02 AM
That's more like it lads a bit of positive mindset might get us somewhere......

It's what  Sugrue has installed in the players and is whats missing from this county ...

Look what an average Fermanagh team did to Monaghan!!!!

LAOIS LAOIS LAOIS
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Nameless on July 04, 2018, 11:04:53 AM
Let's look at the positives from the Dublin game and see what we can work on.

Our kickouts went well. I was worried with how we would win possession but Brody was on top form and the midfielders did well enough.
Our full backline did reasonably well in one on one battles. Dillon was excellent against Mannion, it was runners from their half back line and midfield which caused us problems.
We created a number of chances but we missed too many. It would be worse if we didn't create any chances. Some of the passing was top class, our inside forwards created space for themselves, it was just our shooting that was off. We only scored 40% of our shots! Kingston kicked 6 and O'Carroll kicked 5 wides. We need to convert them, hopefully shooting has been worked on but as I said, the creating of those chances with the build up play and the movement inside is very positive.

Monaghan are a very good team. Should Timmons or Dillon pick up McManus? Should Walsh start? Any other changes?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Laoiseabu on July 04, 2018, 12:13:07 PM
Prediction : Monaghan 2:20 Laois 1-12
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: on the hop on July 04, 2018, 02:17:53 PM
Let's look at the positives from the Dublin game and see what we can work on.

Our kickouts went well. I was worried with how we would win possession but Brody was on top form and the midfielders did well enough.
Our full backline did reasonably well in one on one battles. Dillon was excellent against Mannion, it was runners from their half back line and midfield which caused us problems.
We created a number of chances but we missed too many. It would be worse if we didn't create any chances. Some of the passing was top class, our inside forwards created space for themselves, it was just our shooting that was off. We only scored 40% of our shots! Kingston kicked 6 and O'Carroll kicked 5 wides. We need to convert them, hopefully shooting has been worked on but as I said, the creating of those chances with the build up play and the movement inside is very positive.

Monaghan are a very good team. Should Timmons or Dillon pick up McManus? Should Walsh start? Any other changes?

I thought we were rinsed on our kickouts especially when they pressed up and we went long, we lost 11 of these. it wasn't helped that we allowed a free man to sit on their half back line and collect anything that broke. we still need a reliable freetaker on the team, donie and evan are too hit and miss. I wonder is drew wylie back from suspension.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Tony on July 04, 2018, 02:24:37 PM
I just had a shnaakey look at the Monaghan Hogan Stand forum. The consensus over there is that most of them see a victory for them, but they expect a tough challenge from us. A lot of them are pointing towards 2012 when they were clear favourites to beat us, but we beat them well. They believe that they've been inconsistent this year - fine performance to beat Tyrone but woeful against Fermanagh. They respect our style and were impressed with us for spells against the Dubs. Anyway, that all doesn't matter right now. Part of me thinks that we're not ready for Super 8's quite yet, but then another part of me thinks that it's an opportunity we mightn't see again for another 5+ years, so we have to go out 350% for the win and lay it all on the line. Besides, IF we do beat Monaghan (a division 1 side capable of being competitive with the best) then we do deserve our place in the super 8's. Again, IF we do manage to progress, I can see all-star nominees dotted around our panel - Brody, Begley, Dillon, JOL for example. Looks like they're travelling in numbers so I hope a good Laois crowd travel also. There's a high chance it'll be a close game, so the crowd could easily turn into a 16th man come the last 20 mins.

 
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Tony on July 04, 2018, 02:26:23 PM
we still need a reliable freetaker on the team, donie and evan are too hit and miss.
Agreed - I'd probably start Walsh for that reason.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 04, 2018, 02:37:50 PM
I know we are an optimistic bunch on here but you would think we had put it up to Dublin the way we are going on, All Star nominees ? They beat us by 18 points almost kicking at will, in the second half.  To be honest I thought the gap was narrower between us and Dublin it was far from that.  We are not a bad little team but I would be surprised if we beat Monaghan.  We may get one All-Star nominee and that is Gareth Dillion, Is Brody in the top 3 keepers in the country ? I would think Beggin & Cluxton are miles clear with a plethora of keepers behind, saying that Brody does offer something very different.  It's his kickout I am not sure of and I think this is by far the most important part of the game.  Saying that this season has been he best thus far and his young so could easily improve further.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Don Draper on July 04, 2018, 02:41:14 PM
I know we are an optimistic bunch on here but you would think we had put it up to Dublin the way we are going on, All Star nominees ? They beat us by 18 points almost kicking at will, in the second half.  To be honest I thought the gap was narrower between us and Dublin it was far from that.  We are not a bad little team but I would be surprised if we beat Monaghan.  We may get one All-Star nominee and that is Gareth Dillion, Is Brody in the top 3 keepers in the country ? I would think Beggin & Cluxton are miles clear with a plethora of keepers behind, saying that Brody does offer something very different.  It's his kickout I am not sure of and I think this is by far the most important part of the game.  Saying that this season has been he best thus far and his young so could easily improve further.
You're probably right.

Laois by 3.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Tony on July 04, 2018, 02:54:12 PM
All Star nominees ?
Yes, I said that if we beat Monaghan, we could be looking at a few All-Star nominees, EASILY. We'd be in the last 8, we're league winners, leinster finalists and we would have beaten a Division 1 team along the way to super 8's. Not sure what part of that you don't understand. Some of our lads have had a great season. Now, having said that, I think Monaghan might have too much on the day, but my post was straight forward.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Don Draper on July 04, 2018, 03:07:49 PM
Brody is an All Star Nominee, easily. Begley will most likely get one too. Dillon should, but his name may not be big enough sadly.  Thats about it for now.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: SCFC on July 04, 2018, 03:21:04 PM
I know we are an optimistic bunch on here but you would think we had put it up to Dublin the way we are going on, All Star nominees ? They beat us by 18 points almost kicking at will, in the second half.  To be honest I thought the gap was narrower between us and Dublin it was far from that.  We are not a bad little team but I would be surprised if we beat Monaghan.  We may get one All-Star nominee and that is Gareth Dillion, Is Brody in the top 3 keepers in the country ? I would think Beggin & Cluxton are miles clear with a plethora of keepers behind, saying that Brody does offer something very different.  It's his kickout I am not sure of and I think this is by far the most important part of the game.  Saying that this season has been he best thus far and his young so could easily improve further.
Beggan was absolutely shite for the Fermanagh goal in the Ulster semi.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Unlaoised on July 04, 2018, 04:39:40 PM
I know we are an optimistic bunch on here but you would think we had put it up to Dublin the way we are going on, All Star nominees ? They beat us by 18 points almost kicking at will, in the second half.  To be honest I thought the gap was narrower between us and Dublin it was far from that.  We are not a bad little team but I would be surprised if we beat Monaghan.  We may get one All-Star nominee and that is Gareth Dillion, Is Brody in the top 3 keepers in the country ? I would think Beggin & Cluxton are miles clear with a plethora of keepers behind, saying that Brody does offer something very different.  It's his kickout I am not sure of and I think this is by far the most important part of the game.  Saying that this season has been he best thus far and his young so could easily improve further.

Brody's kickouts were always fairly decent as far as I can remember even when he broke on the scene??

Beggin is having a poor year and Stephen has regressed for sure...Brody is easily up there !

Dublin will score at will against 26 counties out of 34 and we are one of them ..


Sunday is a more level playing field its only 4 years ago they struggled to beat us in Clones(was only a goal in it with five minutes to go) when we went up there in the league to a team who were on a massive high in Division 2 with this victory seeling their place in division 1 which is where they have been since they were also ulster champions a crown they were very unlucky to loose that year.

I know we have regressed badly in 3 years but this year we are on the way back and should be going into the game in a positive frame of mind.

Monaghan 0-19 Laois 0-14
Clones March 2014



The team and scorers that day was
Laois: G Brody, P McMahon, D Booth, P OíLeary, D Strong 0-4, P Begley, C Begley, K Meaney, J OíLoughlin 0-1, R Munnelly 0-3 (2f), C Meredith 0-1, B Sheehan, E OíCarroll, D Kingston 0-1 (f), D Conway 0-1. Subs: G Walsh G Walsh 0-1 (f) for E OíCarroll, J Finn 0-1 for K Meaney, P Kingston for D Conway, D OíConnor 0-1 for B Sheehan, MJ Tierney for R Munnelly.



Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Nameless on July 04, 2018, 05:14:36 PM
Let's look at the positives from the Dublin game and see what we can work on.

Our kickouts went well. I was worried with how we would win possession but Brody was on top form and the midfielders did well enough.
Our full backline did reasonably well in one on one battles. Dillon was excellent against Mannion, it was runners from their half back line and midfield which caused us problems.
We created a number of chances but we missed too many. It would be worse if we didn't create any chances. Some of the passing was top class, our inside forwards created space for themselves, it was just our shooting that was off. We only scored 40% of our shots! Kingston kicked 6 and O'Carroll kicked 5 wides. We need to convert them, hopefully shooting has been worked on but as I said, the creating of those chances with the build up play and the movement inside is very positive.

Monaghan are a very good team. Should Timmons or Dillon pick up McManus? Should Walsh start? Any other changes?

I thought we were rinsed on our kickouts especially when they pressed up and we went long, we lost 11 of these. it wasn't helped that we allowed a free man to sit on their half back line and collect anything that broke. we still need a reliable freetaker on the team, donie and evan are too hit and miss. I wonder is drew wylie back from suspension.

Yes but I was expecting it to be much worse! When we got tired the second half it went downhill a bit. We knew they'd push up but we coped well with it in the first half. Should Gary Walsh start for the freetaking?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 04, 2018, 05:43:55 PM
I think I would start Gary Walsh instead of Donie Kingston. Donie has been poor by his standards for the last 3 games and I think a spell on the sideline would make him refocus. You would get a great 40/45 minutes from Gary and then spring Donie when their defenders are getting tired. If he could get back his scoring form he is unstoppable but at the moment he's just not doing it.
 
We also have to improve on the short kickouts and give our forwards a good supply of ball as we have been wiped out at midfield every time we went long this year.. At the moment our forwards are spending most of the time defending and that drains lads especially in this hot weather. A bit more clever play and tactics and we can win this one..
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Tony on July 04, 2018, 05:57:10 PM
I think there's space for both Donie and Gary. Not starting Donie and bringing him on after 40 mins makes no sense to me. He's our best player and 2/3 men from the opposite team follow him. What we need more of is runners off the shoulder of Donie (think Stephen Attride off the shoulder for that goal vs dublin in 2016). He can win his own ball but it's very hard to beat 2 men and needs more support. I always thought Walsh was very creative, dangerous very accurate at frees too. I'd fit him in, not at the expense of Donie though.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 04, 2018, 06:11:20 PM
I know we are an optimistic bunch on here but you would think we had put it up to Dublin the way we are going on, All Star nominees ? They beat us by 18 points almost kicking at will, in the second half.  To be honest I thought the gap was narrower between us and Dublin it was far from that.  We are not a bad little team but I would be surprised if we beat Monaghan.  We may get one All-Star nominee and that is Gareth Dillion, Is Brody in the top 3 keepers in the country ? I would think Beggin & Cluxton are miles clear with a plethora of keepers behind, saying that Brody does offer something very different.  It's his kickout I am not sure of and I think this is by far the most important part of the game.  Saying that this season has been he best thus far and his young so could easily improve further.

Brody's kickouts were always fairly decent as far as I can remember even when he broke on the scene??

Beggin is having a poor year and Stephen has regressed for sure...Brody is easily up there !

Dublin will score at will against 26 counties out of 34 and we are one of them ..


Sunday is a more level playing field its only 4 years ago they struggled to beat us in Clones(was only a goal in it with five minutes to go) when we went up there in the league to a team who were on a massive high in Division 2 with this victory seeling their place in division 1 which is where they have been since they were also ulster champions a crown they were very unlucky to loose that year.

I know we have regressed badly in 3 years but this year we are on the way back and should be going into the game in a positive frame of mind.

Monaghan 0-19 Laois 0-14
Clones March 2014



The team and scorers that day was
Laois: G Brody, P McMahon, D Booth, P OíLeary, D Strong 0-4, P Begley, C Begley, K Meaney, J OíLoughlin 0-1, R Munnelly 0-3 (2f), C Meredith 0-1, B Sheehan, E OíCarroll, D Kingston 0-1 (f), D Conway 0-1. Subs: G Walsh G Walsh 0-1 (f) for E OíCarroll, J Finn 0-1 for K Meaney, P Kingston for D Conway, D OíConnor 0-1 for B Sheehan, MJ Tierney for R Munnelly.

Jesus one game is killer, Tyrone game Beggin was heralded as best keeper in the country.  Brody's long kicks in Div 4 final were poor, to be honest it was far better against Carlow in the semi-final.  But it was not all that great in the final against Dublin, in fairness his very quick on the short ones but most of the better teams are now pressing them.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Nameless on July 04, 2018, 06:16:21 PM
Donie hasn't been great. No matter how talented you are, you have to do the training. At this level, missing the winter work will show. Free taking has to be practiced over and over and over. When Donie done a couple of years full time training a few years ago he was unstoppable. O'Carroll and Kingston did get plenty of chances against Dublin, Walsh scored a few when he came on but only two of them can start in my opinion.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Don Draper on July 05, 2018, 08:31:34 AM
Imagine not starting Donie, good f**k, what are we like!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: portlaoisekid on July 05, 2018, 08:52:43 AM
Jesus Christ Donie and Brody getting a going over on here, we are some set up of a county.

Brody nailed on for an all star nomination and Donie our only true top class forward. I give up.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Don Draper on July 05, 2018, 09:10:14 AM
Jesus Christ Donie and Brody getting a going over on here, we are some set up of a county.

Brody nailed on for an all star nomination and Donie our only true top class forward. I give up.
The good times are back alright.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Tony on July 05, 2018, 09:27:55 AM
I think we have to start Donie, but let's not be drama queens. He's not "getting a going over on here". 2posters pointed out that he hasn't been at his best this year. That's not getting a going over. Brody's not getting a going over either. We're full of praise for Brody with the exception of one poster who thinks he mightnt get an all star nomination. Again, that's not getting a going over.

For me, Donie should start with Walsh but I wouldn't mind seeing Evan in half forward line. He's a great man to run at a defence and monaghan hate when a team runs at them up front, directly towards goal, like Evan does when further out the field. Starting all 3 would be what I'd do but I'm not the man in charge  ;D
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: seafoid on July 05, 2018, 09:50:25 AM
I just had a shnaakey look at the Monaghan Hogan Stand forum. The consensus over there is that most of them see a victory for them, but they expect a tough challenge from us. A lot of them are pointing towards 2012 when they were clear favourites to beat us, but we beat them well. They believe that they've been inconsistent this year - fine performance to beat Tyrone but woeful against Fermanagh. They respect our style and were impressed with us for spells against the Dubs. Anyway, that all doesn't matter right now. Part of me thinks that we're not ready for Super 8's quite yet, but then another part of me thinks that it's an opportunity we mightn't see again for another 5+ years, so we have to go out 350% for the win and lay it all on the line. Besides, IF we do beat Monaghan (a division 1 side capable of being competitive with the best) then we do deserve our place in the super 8's. Again, IF we do manage to progress, I can see all-star nominees dotted around our panel - Brody, Begley, Dillon, JOL for example. Looks like they're travelling in numbers so I hope a good Laois crowd travel also. There's a high chance it'll be a close game, so the crowd could easily turn into a 16th man come the last 20 mins.

Last year 10 counties had nominations. If Laois got to the Super 8 they might get 2. If they played well but lost to Monaghan they could get 1, depending on other counties.

Dubs 13
Mayo  12 .
 Tyrone 6
 Kerry 5,
 Roscommon 2
 Kildare 2
 Down 2 
Monaghan 1
Donegal 1
Armagh 1
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 05, 2018, 11:06:01 AM
I just had a shnaakey look at the Monaghan Hogan Stand forum. The consensus over there is that most of them see a victory for them, but they expect a tough challenge from us. A lot of them are pointing towards 2012 when they were clear favourites to beat us, but we beat them well. They believe that they've been inconsistent this year - fine performance to beat Tyrone but woeful against Fermanagh. They respect our style and were impressed with us for spells against the Dubs. Anyway, that all doesn't matter right now. Part of me thinks that we're not ready for Super 8's quite yet, but then another part of me thinks that it's an opportunity we mightn't see again for another 5+ years, so we have to go out 350% for the win and lay it all on the line. Besides, IF we do beat Monaghan (a division 1 side capable of being competitive with the best) then we do deserve our place in the super 8's. Again, IF we do manage to progress, I can see all-star nominees dotted around our panel - Brody, Begley, Dillon, JOL for example. Looks like they're travelling in numbers so I hope a good Laois crowd travel also. There's a high chance it'll be a close game, so the crowd could easily turn into a 16th man come the last 20 mins.

Last year 10 counties had nominations. If Laois got to the Super 8 they might get 2. If they played well but lost to Monaghan they could get 1, depending on other counties.

Dubs 13
Mayo  12 .
 Tyrone 6
 Kerry 5,
 Roscommon 2
 Kildare 2
 Down 2 
Monaghan 1
Donegal 1
Armagh 1

Utterly delusional at times but heart is in the right place.  Brody may get an All Star Nomination on the back of a new tactic but on actually very little substance.  Dillion is far more deserving but may go unhearlded he does the simple things really well and is improving all the time. 

Donie has to start there is no argument,  by a mile our best starting forward the rest really come and go with form.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Giovanni on July 05, 2018, 11:08:17 AM
I think we have to start Donie, but let's not be drama queens. He's not "getting a going over on here". 2posters pointed out that he hasn't been at his best this year. That's not getting a going over. Brody's not getting a going over either. We're full of praise for Brody with the exception of one poster who thinks he mightnt get an all star nomination. Again, that's not getting a going over.

I agree with this. The fact of the matter is that Donie would be expected to work harder, train harder and play harder if he was playing with the top teams. He is well capable of it and on his day is as good as any of them. But noone should be guaranteed anything simply by virtue of being "talented". I think he has been handled very well by John Sugrue this year and hopefully we'll see a big game from him on Sunday.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 05, 2018, 11:11:00 AM
I think we have to start Donie, but let's not be drama queens. He's not "getting a going over on here". 2posters pointed out that he hasn't been at his best this year. That's not getting a going over. Brody's not getting a going over either. We're full of praise for Brody with the exception of one poster who thinks he mightnt get an all star nomination. Again, that's not getting a going over.

I agree with this. The fact of the matter is that Donie would be expected to work harder, train harder and play harder if he was playing with the top teams. He is well capable of it and on his day is as good as any of them. But noone should be guaranteed anything simply by virtue of being "talented". I think he has been handled very well by John Sugrue this year and hopefully we'll see a big game from him on Sunday.

Agree with your Sugrue point but it is helped by the fact that their is a buzz in Laois football at the moment long may it continue.

P.S PortlaoiseKid there is a fair difference in a going over and debating whether or not he gets an All Star nomination just saying.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: portlaoisekid on July 05, 2018, 11:29:46 AM
I think we have to start Donie, but let's not be drama queens. He's not "getting a going over on here". 2posters pointed out that he hasn't been at his best this year. That's not getting a going over. Brody's not getting a going over either. We're full of praise for Brody with the exception of one poster who thinks he mightnt get an all star nomination. Again, that's not getting a going over.

I agree with this. The fact of the matter is that Donie would be expected to work harder, train harder and play harder if he was playing with the top teams. He is well capable of it and on his day is as good as any of them. But noone should be guaranteed anything simply by virtue of being "talented". I think he has been handled very well by John Sugrue this year and hopefully we'll see a big game from him on Sunday.

Agree with your Sugrue point but it is helped by the fact that their is a buzz in Laois football at the moment long may it continue.

P.S PortlaoiseKid there is a fair difference in a going over and debating whether or not he gets an All Star nomination just saying.
Nothing got to do with an all-star nomination or not , that means very little in the overall scheme of things. But I do believe his kick outs have been top class and overall I wouldn't swap him for any keeper in Ireland.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 05, 2018, 11:53:22 AM
While I admire Donie as a footballer I don't think he has improved as much as he is capable of. I've been watching him play since he was 16 and was always impressed by him but over the years compared to other forwards in the country he hasn't reached his peak as regards scoring. In Div 4 a man of his calibre should have been up there amoung the top scorers but he's not.

Here is a list of the top scorers in the 2017 League:

Division 4
Gary Walsh, Laois 2-24 (30)
Paul Broderick, Carlow 1-16 (19)
Liam Gavaghan, London 2-12 (18)
Paddy McBride, Antrim 0-14 (14)
Keith Beirne, Leitrim 0-14 (14)
Jason Curry, Waterford 0-14 (14)
Seanie Furlong, Wicklow 0-13 (13)
Ryan Murray, Antrim 1-9 (12)
Jamie Lee, Limerick 0-12 (12)
John Murphy, Carlow 3-0 (9)
Darragh Rooney, Leitrim 2-2 ( 8 )
JJ Hutchinson, Waterford 1-5 ( 8 )

While I know he is a fabulous footballer his scoring averages are not up to scratch from the amount of possession he gets and the frees he takes. We have the top scorer in the country on our panel and he's only getting on for five minutes at the end of some games. I don't think you would see that happening in many counties in Ireland.
As Tony has pointed out this is not Donie getting a going over from me, I'm simply stating a few facts about what most people see as our best footballer. I know he has massive talent but sadly he hasn't delivered this year so far but can you imaging the lift it would give the team if he came on early in the second half and set out to prove something to himself and people like me...


Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 05, 2018, 12:24:28 PM
Dont think he started many games in Div 4 though, he was late back to the set up so I think scoring charts could be misleading in that respect.  I thought he was decent against Dublin in a hard role, game had disintegrated by the time Gary came on.  Hard to compare the two in that game.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: High Fielder on July 05, 2018, 12:53:12 PM
Monaghan are very set in their ways. Very orthodox. They love playing 15 on 15 and will overpower most teams who try to go toe to toe. The Wylie fella at full back is one of the best traditional style full backs in the game, and I don't think any of our lads would get much change out of him. I'd be looking to drag them around a bit. Come deep and play our way in rather than kick long and go with two target men. Crowd the midfield and compete hard for the breaking ball and be patient. Even against Dublin in the first half, I was happy to see our lads holding on to the ball and looking for options, rather than kicking aimlessly.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Don Draper on July 05, 2018, 12:55:25 PM
While I admire Donie as a footballer I don't think he has improved as much as he is capable of. I've been watching him play since he was 16 and was always impressed by him but over the years compared to other forwards in the country he hasn't reached his peak as regards scoring. In Div 4 a man of his calibre should have been up there amoung the top scorers but he's not.

Here is a list of the top scorers in the 2017 League:

Division 4
Gary Walsh, Laois 2-24 (30)
Paul Broderick, Carlow 1-16 (19)
Liam Gavaghan, London 2-12 (18)
Paddy McBride, Antrim 0-14 (14)
Keith Beirne, Leitrim 0-14 (14)
Jason Curry, Waterford 0-14 (14)
Seanie Furlong, Wicklow 0-13 (13)
Ryan Murray, Antrim 1-9 (12)
Jamie Lee, Limerick 0-12 (12)
John Murphy, Carlow 3-0 (9)
Darragh Rooney, Leitrim 2-2 ( 8 )
JJ Hutchinson, Waterford 1-5 ( 8 )

While I know he is a fabulous footballer his scoring averages are not up to scratch from the amount of possession he gets and the frees he takes. We have the top scorer in the country on our panel and he's only getting on for five minutes at the end of some games. I don't think you would see that happening in many counties in Ireland.
As Tony has pointed out this is not Donie getting a going over from me, I'm simply stating a few facts about what most people see as our best footballer. I know he has massive talent but sadly he hasn't delivered this year so far but can you imaging the lift it would give the team if he came on early in the second half and set out to prove something to himself and people like me...
Ah would you go away, you're drunk.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Tony on July 05, 2018, 12:59:38 PM
I really think Gary has been given a raw deal to be honest. He's the top scorer out of all 4 leagues earlier this year - and since then he's played maybe 10 mins in all the championship. Not sure if there's something else going on there but he's a proven scorer and very cool under pressure and gives you something different. If not starting, I'd give him a good 30min+. In my opinion, we've no better free taker. In a match that could be close and tense like Monaghan could be, you need almost all your frees going over the bar to have a chance. That's why I was a little bit disappointed with Donie vs Dublin. He missed some very scorable frees and chances that could have made a game of it for longer vs Dublin. Free kicks are massive. Not having a go at Donie, he's a great player and still deserves his place. But maybe lets take some of the edge off it for him by starting Gary and have him main freetaker. I'd have faith in him keeping the scoreboard ticking over for us and contributing from play, too.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Chrimtain on July 05, 2018, 03:14:44 PM
I really think Gary has been given a raw deal to be honest. He's the top scorer out of all 4 leagues earlier this year - and since then he's played maybe 10 mins in all the championship. Not sure if there's something else going on there but he's a proven scorer and very cool under pressure and gives you something different. If not starting, I'd give him a good 30min+. In my opinion, we've no better free taker. In a match that could be close and tense like Monaghan could be, you need almost all your frees going over the bar to have a chance. That's why I was a little bit disappointed with Donie vs Dublin. He missed some very scorable frees and chances that could have made a game of it for longer vs Dublin. Free kicks are massive. Not having a go at Donie, he's a great player and still deserves his place. But maybe lets take some of the edge off it for him by starting Gary and have him main freetaker. I'd have faith in him keeping the scoreboard ticking over for us and contributing from play, too.

You have some neck to anonymously criticise players who have trained throughout the winter and have given of their best to the county.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Tony on July 05, 2018, 04:04:42 PM
Listen Snowflake, saying that I was "a little bit disappointed with Donie vs Dublin" is not offending anyone but you. I clearly stated that he's a great player and clearly deserves his place. Crawl back under your rock there and continue to listen to Fall Out Boy.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: les Antiques on July 05, 2018, 04:12:33 PM
Chrimtain, that's a bit out there don't you think . Hardly Criticism in fairness . Is there something your not telling us .
Personally I think Gary Walsh starting would take some of the burden off Donie Sunday . Wylie and Monaghan will be targeting Donie and perhaps Walshs presence in beside would be advantageous. Evan playing further put where I think he's more effective at This level .
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Tony on July 05, 2018, 04:32:41 PM
I'd go with something like this:
         

          Brody
 
Strong Timmons Dillon
   
   Damien O Connor

Crowley Begley Collins

        JOL Lillis

Evan O'C  P Kingston Donoher

   Donie    Gary Walsh

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: les Antiques on July 05, 2018, 04:47:21 PM
Going with that team Tony except I think Farrell will start , perhaps at Paul Kingstons expense .
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 05, 2018, 06:40:56 PM
Hard to disagree with that team Tony, I think it would be perfect..
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Gmac on July 05, 2018, 07:03:28 PM
Hard to disagree with that team Tony, I think it would be perfect..
monaghan corner backs and Wylie would be up and down the field all day I think with those 2 inside , also Donie has a good height advantage on Wylie which could be exploited by the occasional high ball in . Laois have to score about 1-16 to win and allow no more than 1 goal .
think it could be a close one .
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Don Draper on July 05, 2018, 08:16:43 PM
A full forward line of Donie and Gary, Jaysus
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Tony on July 05, 2018, 08:26:14 PM
What's your team don?

Very good interview with John Sugrue, pre Monaghan: https://m.soundcloud.com/midlandssport/john-sugrue-pre-monaghan
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Chrimtain on July 05, 2018, 09:54:43 PM
What's your team don?

Very good interview with John Sugrue, pre Monaghan: https://m.soundcloud.com/midlandssport/john-sugrue-pre-monaghan

If they lose, you'll be the first to attack them on Monday morning. It seems you can criticise the players, but woe betide anyone who contradicts your view.   
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 05, 2018, 10:53:49 PM
What's your team don?

Very good interview with John Sugrue, pre Monaghan: https://m.soundcloud.com/midlandssport/john-sugrue-pre-monaghan

If they lose, you'll be the first to attack them on Monday morning. It seems you can criticise the players, but woe betide anyone who contradicts your view.

I'd have Tony down as one of the least critical, many things you can accuse him of, but been critical is not one.  I would say guilty of blind loyalty more than anything else.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: High Fielder on July 05, 2018, 11:30:22 PM
Yeah I'd second that Ballyroan. Tony and Junior are two of the good guys. There are a few crankies, and I'd rank myself amongst them, but Tony and Junior generally drink from a half full glass. I found the above intervention a little odd, but look, that's the internet for you. You won't get on with everyone all of the time. I think in the main, we are respectful towards our lads and the effort they give. I know I wanted to say something in the context of the above debate about the team for Sunday, but decided not to do so because it might have been too critical.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 06, 2018, 12:21:50 AM
So what if it's a bit critical High Fielder, no one minds a bit of constructive critisism especially from a respected poster like yourself. Sometimes lads pop in and out of this forum throwing in a few low blows with very little substance to them.
Very few pay any heed to their comments as they mean very little but then there are lads that post and even if it is a bit critical almost everyone knows that what's being said is for the right reasons, to improve our teams and get behind them. It's an open forum and I think the majority of people here respect all our players and mostly keep insults to the minimum.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Leixlad on July 06, 2018, 08:06:47 AM
I'd go with something like this:
         

          Brody
 
Strong Timmons Dillon
   
   Damien O Connor

Crowley Begley Collins

        JOL Lillis

Evan O'C  P Kingston Donoher

   Donie    Gary Walsh

No sweeper please just go for it  :D Its Monaghan, we have footballers to beat them! No seriously i hate the sweeper. I know it must be used at times but let the full back line mark their men man on man and trust them. Will they drop someone out the field themselves, probably, leaving a free man. Let the free man cover the other 2 and help out. Play another in the full forward the instead where we have a threat,  leave 3 up instead of 2 free defenders. What the hell.

Also i think you have some neck leaving players off your team as you sit anonymously on the internet!  8)
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Don Draper on July 06, 2018, 11:07:22 AM
What's your team don?

Very good interview with John Sugrue, pre Monaghan: https://m.soundcloud.com/midlandssport/john-sugrue-pre-monaghan
Have you seen a game where Donie and Gary have lined out on the same forward line? I have, a few times, it isn't pretty.

Sugrue picks the team, not me.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: on the hop on July 06, 2018, 11:19:56 AM
Going to be a big ask to get over the line here, monaghan don't seem to be in the best of form either but they have an athleticism in their team that we don't do well against. No matter who is selected in the forwards we can't miss the chances we have been getting. There is a general sloppiness at times throughout all the games we have played especially with frees. Generally we get between 12 to 15 scores in games, usually when we go above this we have a great chance of winning. Goals have been key and Sunday will be no different
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Unlaoised on July 06, 2018, 11:49:42 AM
    Brody
 
O Connor Timmons Dillon
   
 

Strong  Begley Collins

        JOL Lillis

A Farrell  P Kingston Donoher

   Donie   Ross  Evan O carroll

Thats the team I'd go with have Farrell to come back and help out in defense Switch Strong and O connor depending who wants to pick up who.Dillion will be on mcmanaus!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Tony on July 06, 2018, 12:54:59 PM
I don't really agree that Monaghan aren't in good form - they beat Tyrone and had a solid league, beating Dublin in the process. They also annihilated Waterford and Leitrim. So the only real blip on their CV this year is that Fermanagh game where they lost with a late goal after being 2 points up.

That being said, I think we're better than our 2nd half performance against Dublin suggests. Monaghan will be very tough to play against and have some top players in Beggan, Whylie, Hughes, Malone and McManus. We've only had 6 days to analyse them properly, but I think John can come up with something to make us competitive. I'd love to see a good performace above anything else and see where it takes us. If we do lose, it'd be good to go out on a good performance and build for next year. Right now i can't see anything but a 4-6 point loss or so, being realistic. Bookies usually aren't far wrong. monaghan are 1/6 to win and we're 5/1. Whatever happens though, it's been a very pleasing year for us and progress has already been made. We're really in bonus territory as stated before, so let's give 100% and see where it takes us.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 06, 2018, 01:50:26 PM
Like I said before the Dublin game, it's actually quite important we put in a performance.  While we have achieved quite abit this year, Sundays match is an end of year report.  I think we can cause a shock this year but this is the last chance saloon, a severe beating would have the opposite effect.  A good performance and we look to next year in hope a bad performance we are in a bad place.  It would be the most brutal end result that is simply we don't have the players. 

Saying that I think we have the players and look forward to a good performance, possibly a win on Sunday. Fingers Crossed, Toes Etc
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Gmac on July 06, 2018, 06:03:38 PM
Not sure if Monaghan play a sweeper but If they do Iíd like to see Darren strong push right up on him donít think the corner suits him at all , would also be athletic enough to help chase runners from back from Monaghan
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: jimbob2 on July 06, 2018, 10:44:18 PM
Monaghan are a huge powerful team and I am afraid they will over run our weaker players, they also have a top class subs bench. their performance against Tyrone was one of the best in the championship,unless Laois get a good start and maybe a bit of luck I cant see anything other than a Monaghan victory. I would have started Walsh. As regards Donie with one arm tied behind his back he is still the best Laois player I have seen. Dont forget in the last 5/10 years defenders have improved so much bordering on the ridiculous the way they pull drag and entangle them selves around the player in possession. his skill levels are a joy to watch and if we do get a result on Sunday he will have played a big part of it.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Giovanni on July 06, 2018, 11:37:13 PM
Did you see Ross Munelly, Tom Kelly or Joe Higgins in 2003? Or Tom Prendergast? Or Colm Browne? Or Liam Irwin? Or Barney Maher?

As far as I'm concerned, Donie is one of 15 Laois players who will take the field on Sunday. He deserves the same respect as all the rest of them and hopefully he will play a significant role.  Win or lose, all 15 will play a big part.

And I can assure you, he will need both his arms on Sunday.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 07, 2018, 12:04:55 AM
Laois team for Sunday, Finbarr Crowley and Niall Donoher dropped for Evan O'Carroll and Darren Strong ..







              Monaghan Team for Sunday

                           Rory Beggan

      Kieran Duffy, Conor Boyle, Ryan Wylie
   Dessie Ward, Colin Walshe, Karl O'Connell

             Niall Kearns, Darren Hughes

  Ryan McAnespie, Dermot Malone, Fintan Kelly
Conor McCarthy, Jack McCarron, Conor McManus


Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: The Boy Wonder on July 07, 2018, 12:31:24 AM
Did you see Ross Munelly, Tom Kelly or Joe Higgins in 2003? Or Tom Prendergast? Or Colm Browne? Or Liam Irwin? Or Barney Maher?

As far as I'm concerned, Donie is one of 15 Laois players who will take the field on Sunday. He deserves the same respect as all the rest of them and hopefully he will play a significant role.  Win or lose, all 15 will play a big part.

And I can assure you, he will need both his arms on Sunday.

Good gosh - you left out Willie Brennan and The Beano  :D

I do like this management's style - horses for courses. I'm very happy wth Ross's selection and I think Glynn has been chomping at the bit too.
It's not just a fifteen man game so it's no bad reflection on the lads not starting - it's great to have quality players on the bench.

Best of luck to the lads.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Laoiseabu on July 07, 2018, 12:39:22 AM
Big test against a very strong Monaghan outfit who also have quality galore on the bench. I think we will be going well to get within 8 points of them. I see Kieran Hughes is back in the bench. Very strong full foward line of McCarthy, McCarron and McManus. Our best hope is getting the ball into Donie and Evan as quick as possible. As was said before some of our so called weaker players are going to find the going tough on Sunday so we need everyone on board and hit the ground running .
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Unlaoised on July 07, 2018, 01:51:07 AM
My team was close im surprised with Glynn for donogher but not a bad change either .

Karl o connell is a big part of their game with his blistering pace carrying the ball forward i hope we have someone detailed to curb that .
Drew Wylie and kieran hughes not starting for them must give us a massive boost .

Conor Boyle must be targeted inside .

I see the bookies have closed the odds to 9/2 now after the line ups were announced .

This might just be tighter than people think .

Big crowd from Laois going now it seems after slow sales in tickets early in the week .

Anyone know of any decent bars up there its a town i havent ever had a pint in
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: les Antiques on July 07, 2018, 10:31:00 AM

Anyone know of any decent bars up there its a town i havent ever had a pint in
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Ryans pub is about 600 yards from the ground and is a good lively spot before matches .  A lot of people will gather at the Navan OMahonys clubhouse where in fairness there is a fine bar and if your driving a pretty large cark park . Prepare to wait though afterwards as its a nightmare getting out of there.
I recall been in a pub called Oflahertys back in the mid 90s when we played Meath ,the day Pat Roe got the line after his duel with Tommy Dowd . Back then it was pure Gaa Pub ,not sure about it now .
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Chrimtain on July 07, 2018, 01:19:26 PM
Its hard to know what to make of tomorrow's match. If we manage to win we get to play in the Super 8s, which frankly, is a competition that is way above our standard. If the scoreline is reflected in the difference in standard between the two teams tomorrow, then we are facing into another big defeat. However, defeat would save us from the prospect of even bigger defeats at the hands of Kerry and Galway, which would do us no good what so ever.

John Sugrue deserves great credit for what he has achieved. Following the hard work of himself, mentors and the players, he has made it appear as if Laois football is in a healthy state, which it is not. The fact is that Laois football is in a very poor state and the 'progress' made this year has been no more that an illusion. Beating Division 3/4 teams only, what has been 'achieved' this year has been done with an ageing team, and as much as I respect all of those players, unfortunately, they have little time left at inter county level. And, where will we be when they are gone?

For any one deluded enough to think Laois football is in a healthy state, just look at the humiliating defeats that have been meted out to our under age teams recently. The Kildare defeat at u17 level was very bad, but following today's shocking 24 point defeat at the hands of Meath, we should hang our heads in shame, because this an accurate reflection of where we stand. That we have allowed the standard to drop so woefully low in the county is shocking and hugely disappointing.

At senior level, to even think of competing at the Super 8s level is delusional.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 07, 2018, 02:08:48 PM
Have to agree about our underage teams and the way the Co.Board have neglected to invest in them over the past ten years or so. 

It's not the fault of the young players but the Co. Board should hang their heads in shame...
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Chrimtain on July 07, 2018, 02:26:45 PM
John Sugrue and the boys may deserve to play in the Super 8s, but as a GAA county, we do not. The work is not being done at any level for us to deserve to play in the Super 8s.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: High Fielder on July 07, 2018, 02:41:09 PM
I think you need to separate John Sugrue's work from everything else. I agree in principle with your point, but the fact remains that if we beat Monaghan, we are playing Super 8 football, and I can assure you Monaghan want to be there, so why shouldn't we? I'd be pleasantly surprised if we could beat Monaghan, make that shocked, but we will be giving it our best shot for sure.

I personally don't know of another coach in Laois that is within the same Parish as Sugrue, and maybe we just don't have good coaches. That is why I'm prepared to separate Sugrue's work from everything else that is going on. I agree the rest of it is a jumbled up mess without rhyme or reason, but Sugrue is maximising this panel's potential. If something doesn't look right, I'm telling you now there's a good reason for it. This man will give you every chance if you work hard for him and do as you're told
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Chrimtain on July 07, 2018, 02:47:09 PM
I don't understand how the county board can stand by and watch our under age teams being humiliated year after year. I am afraid that our achievement this year at senior level represents the 'last sting of a dying wasp'.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: High Fielder on July 07, 2018, 03:13:54 PM
I can see your point and I would share your fears. It is easy to get into a cycle of picking the best players and most successful coaches at underage and at the same time still disimprove. That is what is happening in Laois. It is obvious for all to see that at the very least, our strength and conditioning is non existent at underage, or what is being done is just not working.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 07, 2018, 05:03:25 PM
Who is referring the game tomorrow, can't find it anywhere on the net...
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on July 07, 2018, 06:10:58 PM
Derek O Mahoney is the ref.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 07, 2018, 07:11:24 PM
I am not mad about Ross starting,  he has had only one real good game this year and that was the Div 4 league final where his football brain was to the fore but pace was not tested.  I just think he doesn't have the legs at this stage of his career.  I don't want to be over critical as this player as he has been huge in both commitment and leadership in the past.   Wonder what sort of crowd will travel tomorrow probably not major.

With Strong, Begley and Timmons I think we need a Sweeper.  Can't see why Crowley was dropped I thought our Dublin starting team was the best available to us.  We look very susceptible,  between the half backs who are attack minded and Timmons who is not hugely pacey.  My thoughts if we play this team we look really unbalanced. 

Unless Farrell is going to be the sweeper with Evan moving to the half forward line
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Chrimtain on July 07, 2018, 07:41:38 PM
Looking at the Kildare V Fermanagh game.........maybe Monaghan are not that good. Plus, Carlow beat Kildare!!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: on the hop on July 07, 2018, 08:26:26 PM
I hope that's tongue in cheek, 6 division 1 teams from this year through now and Roscommon the seventh might as well be one as they were promoted. The gulf has really showed. The fastness of the pitches and heat is making it very hard to be defensive. Interesting to see what the tactic is. Pace and power has been very evident today. It's looking like you will have to be hitting a minimum of 20 points to be in the game
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: jimbob2 on July 07, 2018, 10:39:59 PM
High fielder I really respect your opinions and knowledge of the game but have you not noticed that Laois abu and chrismtan are Kildare sht-e heads.  I can tell you that I have seen all those great  Laois players mentioned and loved and respected all of them and Beano was a genius, I actually played with Tom Prendergast and thought I wouldn't see better, but in the modern game  the skill levels of Donie nudge him above all the great players mentioned previously and thats just my opinion.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Chrimtain on July 07, 2018, 11:26:09 PM
High fielder I really respect your opinions and knowledge of the game but have you not noticed that Laois abu and chrismtan are Kildare sht-e heads.  I can tell you that I have seen all those great  Laois players mentioned and loved and respected all of them and Beano was a genius, I actually played with Tom Prendergast and thought I wouldn't see better, but in the modern game  the skill levels of Donie nudge him above all the great players mentioned previously and thats just my opinion.

I may be a shitehead, as you so politely put it, but I am not from Kildare, I am from Laois. Now f**k off you w*****r.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Laoiseabu on July 07, 2018, 11:46:54 PM
How am I a Kildare shithead?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: jimbob2 on July 07, 2018, 11:47:57 PM
Wow getting a little bit upset there Kildareman!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Laoiseabu on July 07, 2018, 11:50:53 PM
Iím a Laois man , what would suggest Iím a Kildare man if your so smart ?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Laoiseabu on July 08, 2018, 12:04:23 AM
Ohh now I get it . Just because I am realistic and not delusional about Laois football like most people makes me a Kildare shithead. People just donít like to hear the truth do they ?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 08, 2018, 12:16:33 AM
Look lads, we sorted this stupid stuff out before. We all agreed to ignore that type of comment and if you keep those arguements going you are only playing into the hands of those who are from different counties and only come on here for an arguement. If things get personal then my advice would be to ignore posters who do that.

Most people who post here are wise enough to figure out who's genuine and who's not so don't be drawn into that silly "Hogan Stand forum" mentality and just ignore it.  Personaly I think Chrimtain and Laoisabu have posted some good stuff here and no matter where they are from they are entitled to an opinion like everyone else.

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 08, 2018, 01:17:50 AM
C'Mon Laois....



Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Unlaoised on July 08, 2018, 05:25:41 AM
Super 8s here we come ....

In john we trust me
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: ILikeStrawberryJam on July 08, 2018, 08:45:53 AM
Best of luck to the lads today. We have a small chance. Hopefully a decent laois crowd turns up.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Tony on July 08, 2018, 10:49:54 AM
Lads, if ye want to insult each other like 5 year olds, nobody wants to see that only yourselves. There's a private messaging function on here so go in there and go nuts. Otherwise you'll just continue to look pathetic to be fair.

Regarding the match, if we beat monaghan, we deserve to be in the super 8's and I'd love to be in it. It would be great for Laois football and for youngsters interest in gaa in Laois, 100%. If, as expected, we come up short, then so be it. We've had a great year at senior level, all things considered. It's bonus territory so I hope all go out, let loose and express ourselves. As sugrue says, let's see where that takes us. Laois abu!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Joeythelips on July 08, 2018, 11:27:04 AM
Exactly that Tony. People are saying Super 8 is a step too far for Laois, and if we are honest that is probably accurate given where they have come from. Itís not unloyal to suggest this as we can see with our eyes the difference between the ourselves and Monaghan over the past couple of years. Fortunately for us such things are not decided on message boards but on a football field. Today Laois take on a Division 1 team, one of the few to have beaten Dublin and if Laois can beat them then they will more than have earned the right to be in the Super 8s. Best of luck to them.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Giovanni on July 08, 2018, 01:00:53 PM
Iím going to miss todayís game for reasons that I canít control but I would echo the sentiments of most people on here. If all 15+ players work like dogs we have a chance. Iíd have some concerns about Damien O Connor at corner back today but heís an experienced player at this stage so hopefully itíll work out. In fairness Sugrue has got the majority of these calls right so hopefully this is another good call.

The very best of luck to all today. As Tony says none of us can make any complaint  as long as there is a decent performance. Iím sure the boys will give a strong account of themselves today.

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: shyted on July 08, 2018, 01:58:59 PM
is there any radio commentary
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Giovanni on July 08, 2018, 02:09:44 PM
Itís on Midlands 103
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: seafoid on July 08, 2018, 04:05:03 PM
A fighting performance from Laois. Hard luck but a huge improvement on last year.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Joeythelips on July 08, 2018, 04:27:00 PM
Laois could have given up the ghost after the first half in that heat, but fair play the gave it everything in the second half. Sugrue certainly has shown he is the man to get the best out of the players. A bit of pride has being restored to the jersey after the past few years. Thanks to the players and management for their efforts this year.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Laoiseabu on July 08, 2018, 04:42:30 PM
Have to hand it to Sugrue . He has squeezed almost everything he could out of the hand he was dealt . Super 8s has proved a step too far as we suspected but at least we never lay down today . You could be forgiven for saying the game was up at half time but we still tried hard till the very end . It could of been so much worse if it wasnít for Brody who is definitely in the top 5-6 keepers in the country. Itís gonna be hard to replace a lot of those older players we have but what we have is what we have especially competing as a dual County . You have done us proud this year John and the Laois team . Balls and guts was shown this year that I havenít seen in a number of years. You have restored pride in the jersey . Well done lads . Laois Abu. Now roll on to the senior club championship 💙💙
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Jd on July 08, 2018, 07:05:03 PM
I couldn't get to the match cos of work but was listening to Jack Nolan. When we were seven or eight behind we were facing a hiding but somehow you knew that this team wouldn't lie down and that is down to attitude which John Sugrue and the management have instilled in this group. I am very proud to be a Laois man this evening. This is only year one of what I hope is a long term development plan.we have a good development officer in Fergal ,a super new centre of excellence and a top senior manager. We're 5 to 7 years behind the likes of Monaghan in terms of s+c so we have to be patient. I have been involved in underage football and know that the players are in the clubs. Some ridiculously talented, so we have to identify what type of players we need and make sure they are properly looked after .....sounds easy doesn't it!!! Patience is a virtue but we'll get there
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 08, 2018, 07:17:04 PM
I couldn't get to the match cos of work but was listening to Jack Nolan. When we were seven or eight behind we were facing a hiding but somehow you knew that this team wouldn't lie down and that is down to attitude which John Sugrue and the management have instilled in this group. I am very proud to be a Laois man this evening. This is only year one of what I hope is a long term development plan.we have a good development officer in Fergal ,a super new centre of excellence and a top senior manager. We're 5 to 7 years behind the likes of Monaghan in terms of s+c so we have to be patient. I have been involved in underage football and know that the players are in the clubs. Some ridiculously talented, so we have to identify what type of players we need and make sure they are properly looked after .....sounds easy doesn't it!!! Patience is a virtue but we'll get there

I would want you with me if I was going to the gallows your most definitely on the glass half full side:0 

Brody was immense in 2nd half, but that is because he was the busier of the two keepers.  The reality is Beggin had nothing to do.  Well done to Laois for sticking with it but Monaghan were not near full pelt in the second half and always had 4 points in a 2nd half where we never really threatened their goal.  It was a decentish season but the onlyteam we beat operating above Div 4 was Westmeath and who were in full on mutiny when we met them.  Saying that I remember last year where we would have been hard pressed to beat Waterford.  While today reads well our best 25 mins of football was against Dublin, I don't subscribe to todays performance being that good.  However those first 25 against Dublin, that was excellent.  So I suppose a lot done this year a lot to do.  I would not echo previous poster in relation to underage set up, there are talented players but the reality is they are not getting the support they need.  I know money is tight in the county board set up but we could do with sticking a few quid behind the underage teams if we are to progress it is going to need investment.  The training center while laudable is taking far too great a share of our resources, we cannot ignore the need for what is small amounts of money behind our development squads and the there is a major need for more GDA's in our urban centers. But the senior team back on track and being supported will trickle down to help this.  This year was a step in the right direction but we should build on this not sit back and expect it to continue.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: SCFC on July 08, 2018, 07:31:09 PM
Well, that's that.
Back to the clubs now.
Hopefully the local championships throw up a few new faces for next year's squad. As for this year, we're in a lot better place than 12 months ago. Back up to Division 3, reached a Leinster final and got within one game of the super 8s.
Fair play to Sugrue. I think he will be an even better manager next year. Remember he was taking a county team for the first time too. He'll have learned a lot too.
Today I thought we finished with a stronger team than we started with. How Walsh only gets a few minutes is beyond me. How Donoher is dropped while Farrell starts is mind boggling. Felt for Ross there today. He was way off the pace needed although he never stopped trying.
So much more could be said but pints.... :)
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Tony on July 08, 2018, 08:52:44 PM
Extremely proud Laois man tonight and very happy with the year. Looking forward to 2019 season already, it usually takes me over a week to get over the usual heavy defeat to exit the championship. This year was different in many ways. Drinks up town soon, see ye there  :P. A more comprehensive review of the year coming later this week.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: High Fielder on July 08, 2018, 11:48:17 PM
Great year. Sugrue and his team have done everything we could have asked of them. Having Portlaoise lads properly involved has also been a huge plus. That is essential to the future wellbeing of the county team, because they are after all our most powerful club. Irrespective of recent underage results, we still have good young footballers all over the county. They need to make themselves available now because opportunities will arise when more senior players retire. Lads have lost time being a part of poorly coached and badly prepared set ups, but Sugrue knows how to prepare lads properly, so I would urge lads to try and get involved.

I suppose one of the elephants in the room as far as our season is concerned is why Gary Walsh isn't getting game time. I've heard a lot of talk about it. For me, his overall work rate let's him down, and he suffers because Donie does the same things only better. That is why in my opinion you wouldn't play the two of them together. Gary is still, easily, one of the best forwards in Laois, but unless something changes, opportunities could be limited. That's just how I see it and I accept I could be well wide of the mark
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: on the hop on July 09, 2018, 09:31:48 AM
A bigger issue is what to do with Donie, we don't seem to get the best out of him. I know he is tightly marked but we managed to get a point from play from him in each of the last two games. It a bit disheartening at times to see brody further up the field than him. He is not mobile enough for centre forward as he can't track back. We tried a few balls to him at full forward but he was too easily bottled up. The game has changed to a mobile Pacey full forward like Flynn of Kildare but we have to work something to our advantage. Finding a few more pacey forwards will be a priority for sugure, once again we only managed 12 scores in a game
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Nameless on July 09, 2018, 10:36:48 AM
A bigger issue is what to do with Donie, we don't seem to get the best out of him. I know he is tightly marked but we managed to get a point from play from him in each of the last two games. It a bit disheartening at times to see brody further up the field than him. He is not mobile enough for centre forward as he can't track back. We tried a few balls to him at full forward but he was too easily bottled up. The game has changed to a mobile Pacey full forward like Flynn of Kildare but we have to work something to our advantage. Finding a few more pacey forwards will be a priority for sugure, once again we only managed 12 scores in a game

A lot of the passes into him yesterday were quite poor. Either putting him out near the sideline or worse, sending ball to the opposite side of his run which favoured the back. Some of the best passes actually came from Donie himself when he was at centre forward. I think that's the problem right there. We don't have quality kick passers or maybe we don't have the players capable of winning ball, getting free of their markers and sending quick ball in.
I thought players like Benny Carroll, Lowry and Donagher did well with some of their runs when they came on yesterday but their distribution was poor. Glynn and Farrell didn't set up much, Paul Kingston got bottled up in the half forward line, in fact our 2 most creative half forwards were O'Carroll and Donie, we want them in the full forward line though.
It's all about power and pace these days, unfortunately we lack in both those areas. These type of players don't just come out of thin air. It has to be developed from underage. Hopefully work will be done on this but for next year, we need everyone on board as has been said. No drops offs from this year, a few of the injured or players that went to America back in and call up a few u20's.
This year has been a huge step forward and promotion from division 3 should be the next target.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: redsetanta on July 09, 2018, 11:18:06 AM
Our shooting was a big problem again. Haven't seen the stats so don't have the wide count but we also hit plenty of ball into goalies hands. Farrell did it on a couple of occasions. For me that has been the biggest issue.

I thought we weren't that bad defensively against a rampant Monaghan team who pressed very high and the movement and interplay of the forwards was far better than us. They have been together fro a few years now so they have done these drills over and over.

We had some great turnover ball in the second half and we matched them physically in what was a fairly hard hitting encounter at times. Donie leaving to tacklers on the ground after one attack in the second half.

I would agree that some of the ball into the forwards wasn't great and something they need to work on. At one point late in second half Donie was calling for the ball and it was kicked towards him but just as the pass ws made Donie changed the direction of his run and the defender picked up the ball and cleared easily.

Plenty to work on but the future looks so much brighter than it did 12 months ago.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 09, 2018, 11:28:20 AM
Less of the gloating town1980.

To be fair he has shipped a quare lot of abuse of late, a lot of bullshitters on here had their arses handed to them today.  On what planet did we ever stand a chance against Clare?

Little wrong with Laois Football that a man with abit of organisation, passion and discipline could not get us into Div 2 and performing better quite quickly.

I said this after the Clare game 12 months ago.  Now here is my 2018 slant, Laois have improved this year, not by as much as some are saying but that does not matter.  The fans are back on the teams side and there is positivity in Laois football,  at all costs this must be maintained.  I would be very worried about John Sugrue staying for a second year and while I think everyone thinks he is 100% to stay.  I would not be so sure,  have I an inside line  the answer is NO.  Just a bad feeling regardless we must start improving the structures around our county teams so as to maintain improvement.  This is an aging team and we have not produced any real quality since Evan O Carroll.  It's imperative we get down with the nuts and bolts of Laois underage football as this team has a couple of years max left that they possibly can maintain improvement.  I would also point out we are reverting to the mean. Laois were never that bad that they should have been in Div 4 or Div 3, but some of the worst managerial appointments I have ever witnessed put paid to this.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Laois Rising on July 09, 2018, 12:09:05 PM
I felt yesterday was the litmus test of this Laois side. They battled to the end which was commendable but the reality is Monaghan had the game won by half time and only for Brody Laois would have suffered a serious drubbling. The loss of Attrite really showed yesterday as he is probably our one marquee defender. Truth be told I was disappointed with this Laois performance. How many times had we players back marking space but not tracking runners. Monaghan will do well to produce a kicking performance again like they did in the first half but too many times they were given the space and time to take shots at the posts.

Glynn and Farrell still need plenty of work if they are to make the mark as inter-county standard half forwards. Monaghan half back line blew them out of it at times. Hopefully everyone will continue to give the commitment required and we can step up a level next year. Promotion from division 3 is a requisite and hopefully a favourable draw in the Leinster championship can provide us with another crack at making a Leinster final. 
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: The PRO on July 09, 2018, 12:33:55 PM
Can't wait for next year tbh. A lot of progress this year and hopeful of further progress next year.
I suppose the big worry is the age profile of some of our better lads.
Begley,  Donoher, Timmons were all 2003 or 2004 minors. Ross is surely very near the end of the line.
Hopefully we can get something from the under 20s who gave eventual Leinster winners Kildare their best test this year.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: on the hop on July 09, 2018, 12:43:29 PM
I thought the defending was awful in the first half, they had 18 shots at goal, 14 scored, most of which were unopposed. We saw how Fermanagh blocked up the channels and physically dominated them, but we never got close. The placement of Glynn was a disaster. Asking him to sit deep was a bad call, he ran around aimlessly but it also allowed o Connell to push up and kick two points unopposed. With Begley getting the runaround and out of the centre we could have easily planted Lillis in the centre and left him there and switch Glynn back out to midfield. At least it would have stopped the free runners through the middle.  With Donie being covered by two in full forward we are least would have had no spare men in our half. For some reason we played a kind of zonal system in the middle third. This allowed them so many kickouts  especially on the terrace side unopposed. When we did push up everybody was clustered on the stand side of the pitch. A simple basketball type move with a runner from the group and Rory beggan  dinked a brillant kickout into our half which got them a score but the whole half back line was on the other side of the pitch and we had no one bar jol to chase him. I thought this was real naive stuff
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 09, 2018, 01:08:04 PM
A very poor first half again put paid to any chance we might have had of winning this one. We escaped against Wexford with a performance like that but it was never going to happen against a quality side like Monaghan. Having said that we really came into it in the second and I have to admire the courage and never say die attitude of this team. Brody was very good at shot stopping but a few bad kickouts and messing around in the square put us in trouble a few times. He could learn a bit from Beggan's kickouts but he is a fantastic talented keeper and we're lucky to have him.

I see lads making more excuses for Donie but the fact is he is not producing what he is undoubtably capable of.
One point from play at the end of the game and missing a great goal chance by kicking it straight at the keeper and making it easy for him. I might be overly critical of him but I know he can do so much better, a goal at that crucial time would have put us in a great position and really shake Monaghan who we had on the rack at that time of the game.

Ross was really feeling the pace and he should have been replaced by Gary Walsh far sooner than he was. I just hope Gary stays on as he has been treated badly for a guy who was so instrumental in getting us out of Div.4 this year. John O'Loughlin's injury was a big blow and even though he stayed on for a while his impact faded after the injury and we suffered for it.

Overall we have achieved an awful lot this year and John Sugrue, his selectors and the squad deserve the highest of praise for bringing respectability back to Laois football. Hopefully John will stay on for a few more years and, as he say's himself, "we'll see where it takes us"..
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Don Draper on July 09, 2018, 02:15:58 PM

I see lads making more excuses for Donie but the fact is he is not producing what he is undoubtably capable of.
One point from play at the end of the game and missing a great goal chance by kicking it straight at the keeper and making it easy for him. I might be overly critical of him but I know he can do so much better, a goal at that crucial time would have put us in a great position and really shake Monaghan who we had on the rack at that time of the game.

He had 4 f**king lads around him!!!!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Tony on July 09, 2018, 02:37:33 PM
I know we don't get to pick the draw but it would have been great to test ourselves against division 2 teams this year to see where we stand, someone like meath or armagh. It's very hard to bridge the gap in pace and standard of division 1 teams, coming from division 4.

Regarding sugrue, judging by his following comments, he wants to stay on at least another term. I don't think anyone in the whole county would oppose that:

For now, however, Sugrue has only a couple of immediate plans. ďI'm looking forward to maybe progressing some of those individuals thoughts a bit further if we get another term. There's lots of things hinges on that, that's for a different day. My terms is up as it is right now, and that's another day's work.Ē
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Nameless on July 09, 2018, 03:29:35 PM
I was slightly critical of Donie in the Dublin match but I thought he did well yesterday. To even get that goal attempt away was impressive. He kicked his frees, set up scores and as always he had a couple of players watching him. I just hope he forgets the basketball this winter and gives it a full go.
I was also surprised that Walsh didn't get more time. We need more scoring forwards. Hopefully Murphy from Port and Cahilane and Merideth are fit and join up next year. Maybe other young lads like Moore, Kelly, Whelan and the likes can be added to squad to gain experience and see if they can impress.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Don Draper on July 09, 2018, 03:38:19 PM
I was slightly critical of Donie in the Dublin match but I thought he did well yesterday. To even get that goal attempt away was impressive. He kicked his frees, set up scores and as always he had a couple of players watching him. I just hope he forgets the basketball this winter and gives it a full go.
I was also surprised that Walsh didn't get more time. We need more scoring forwards. Hopefully Murphy from Port and Cahilane and Merideth are fit and join up next year. Maybe other young lads like Moore, Kelly, Whelan and the likes can be added to squad to gain experience and see if they can impress.
I'm absolutely in shock at the criticism he gets from Laois supporters. They want him to win the ball, kick it in, and be inside to catch it, surrounded by 3 players many times, and then take his score. Jesus you'd wonder why intercounty players bother their holes. Donie is what he is, he's not going to be lightening fast, even when at his fittest, he wasn't. I'd hope a good winter training program tailored to him by an All Ireland winning fitness coach and his backroom team, will do untold for him.

In the meantime, the naysayers can f**k off.

Anyway, to sum up the year, progress made, slide arrested at senior level and good buzz around the camp. A rookie management team came in, got us out of a shit division with little or no scares, (and without playing a final game may I add), dealt with a national scandal of a tweet (absolutely f**king witch hunt may I add), a player getting beaten close to death (great to see him up and about and back training), losing their captain to a horror injury (again, great to see him with the team ever since, a great f**king bit of a boy), and thats just the things the general public know about.

The problems in Laois GAA aren't belonging to this squad or this management team, deal with them elsewhere. Everyones learning, and we'll see where next year takes us. Until then, enjoy the Monday club lads, and the Tuesday one, and slope back to the clubs at your own pace. You made me proud this year. f**k the begruders as Sugrue would say.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Tony on July 09, 2018, 05:09:54 PM
Hasn't been mentioned much but I did note a good improvement on fitness this year. With the loss to Monaghan, it wasn't down to fitness or endurance, moreso to do with the mental speed of the division 1 game and how clinical they were in the first half. I think Cannon deserves respect for what he's done, most of the lads are flying fit. I hope they keep that up now for clubs and end of season. You can have the best tactics and players in the country but if they're not fit you're going nowhere. Big respect for that to all involved in S&C in Laois, let's hope that an appropriate S&C programme is set for U-14 level upwards.

 The gains the kildare underage lads have made has been massive but we can set programmes, too. Doesn't take a genius, it just probably needs full time position for someone to oversee. It's good for the underage lads, too, to have a good solid foundation in s&c for their own lives as they grow up. Would love to see at least 4-6 new faces challenging for places next year. You don't have to have an all-ireland winning u-20 setup for good lads with potential to funnel into senior.

Regarding Donie, he's had a good year overall and I'm glad he came back to the setup. I hope he's glad he came back too - it's hard to play with 2-3 lads hanging off ya each match. In that respect, we need more lads to put their hands up as forwards to watch for us so that the opposition's defence does not focus on him all the time. In the context of every team hounding him each game, he's had a good year. He's still well in his prime, hopefully next year will be a big year for him if our attack gets more dangerous and clinical. E'OC also had a great year and he's only going to get better. I can see Lowry making a difference next year, he made a solid impact when he was introduced. A couple more new, fast, clinical forwards would make a massive difference. Sugrue and management team has my vote to stay on and bring us forward for 2019.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 09, 2018, 05:24:39 PM
I have no argument with Donie starting every day.  I thought Paul Kingston and Evan O Carroll had a good year.  It was nice to see Evan getting on with playing football rather than play acting.  Fitness has improved, but is this not a basic requirement of any inter county squad ? Sad indictment on what went before. I hope Sugrue stays on, hopefully we have an upward trajectory from here on.  I never want to see the farce that went on in the last five years again.  So can someone start club championship thread.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 10, 2018, 01:11:51 AM
2018 Club Championship thread was started last March ...
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=28505.0
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Nameless on July 10, 2018, 10:22:35 AM
Any word on Healy's injury and whether he'll give the footballers one last year?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Heshs Umpire on July 11, 2018, 02:28:00 PM
Been a lot of progress in the 9 or 10 months since Sugrue took over. Plenty of fresh challenges ahead for him in the next year assuming he stays on. Needs to identify 4 or 5 more players that can possibly make the step up from club to county. Not easy. Not many out there. I'd love to see Conor Boyle and Conor Meredith back in there. Colm Murphy has great potential too.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: steven seagal on July 11, 2018, 03:35:43 PM
I'd like to see Adam Ryan involved too, we've struggled to nail down a left-half back this year and I think he could be very good with a run of training and games under Sugrue. I don't know if he'd have the interest though, he only transferred back to Port this year and hadn't played much while he was away.

We need more options across the backline, in the half-forward line, and probably need to develop a midfielder over the next 2-3 years, and a full-back in the next 1-2 years. Not many candidates for those areas jump out from recent minor or U-20 teams, which will be a problem in a few years time.

Sean Byrne from Port looked a good prospect a couple of years ago as a defender, but I think he's been injured for a while. Sean Moore needs to bulk himself up, James Kelly from Joseph's wasn't helped by being played as a corner-back, think he's better suited to further out the field, a possible roving wing-forward to my mind. Brian Daly, Tyrell from Camross, Diarmuid Whelan, Colin Slevin, Ronan Coffey are a few younger lads that have looked good at times, but need a lot of work to get up to the level required.

Would be hoping David Holland and Chris Finn push on next year, it would allow Attride to move out to the half-back line.

This panel should be in a position to return en masse for 2019, there's at least a year left in everyone, so we have a bit of time to develop players, but it still needs to be treated with a bit of urgency.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Laoiseabu on July 11, 2018, 03:57:07 PM
Iím not trying to be blunt Iím giving my opinion . Most of those players you named are not gonna cut it at senior intercounty level . We are not producing the right kind of player for our senior team . A lot of those lads are lads that had a short stint at Laois underage club football nothing more. We canít keep deluding ourselves here .
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Don Draper on July 11, 2018, 04:10:19 PM
Iím not trying to be blunt Iím giving my opinion . Most of those players you named are not gonna cut it at senior intercounty level . We are not producing the right kind of player for our senior team . A lot of those lads are lads that had a short stint at Laois underage club football nothing more. We canít keep deluding ourselves here .
Dead right, f**k them all. No such thing as late developers. Yep, we wouldn't even take a second look at Damien Comer in Laois, nor Brian Fenton. To hell with them all lads. If you're not a footballer by the age of 13, f**k off.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: steven seagal on July 11, 2018, 04:10:44 PM
I know you're not trying to be blunt, and I'm not trying to be blunt here either - this isn't soccer, we can't go out and buy new players.

I agree we're not producing players like we used to, no one could argue with that, but if the lads coming through aren't at that level now, we have to put more work into them to get them up to the level required. We don't have any other option.

If you read what I wrote, you'll see that I never said any of them would cut it at senior level now either, but if we work on them then some of them will. I don't see how we progress as a county, in the short term, without doing that. Long term, we need to improve what we're doing at development squad level, but that won't solve any problems for John Sugrue or whoever is Laois manager in 2-3 years time when he starts losing players to retirement.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Giovanni on July 11, 2018, 04:28:00 PM
Amazing how we're so quick to dismiss young lads on here. It's no wonder they wouldn't bother with it.

I'm pretty sure that ALL of the lads that Steven Seagal has mentioned are well capable of making good inter-country footballers. Whether they do or not, depends primarily on their own level of interest and commitment.

Of course the step up to inter-county football is a a huge one. I remember Brendan Quigley, who might have been the best player in the country at minor and u-21 level, took maybe 3 years to find his feet at senior level. Same for JOL. There is a big step up of course but these young lads are well capable of it if given the time and the support.

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Laoiseabu on July 11, 2018, 04:29:07 PM
Fair enough Steven seagull your entitled to your opinion .
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: High Fielder on July 11, 2018, 04:50:21 PM
John Sugrue is a different kettle of fish. I don't think any of those lads can be dismissed because none of them have been coached properly. It is clear to me that Sugrue is capable of developing lads, which is different territory to just picking lads based on natural ability. If you want proof of how good Sugrue is, just look at Dillon and Lillis. Both have improved immeasurably in the last six months in my opinion. Sugrue has come in and shown us what real coaching is. I'd be happy for this man to be employed by the County Board when his time is up with the Seniors, and I hope that's not any time soon
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Tony on July 11, 2018, 11:13:45 PM
I don't agree with those comments from Laoisabu. It's 50/50 if they'll make it or not; they should be tried. It's a poor attitude to think they just won't be good enough. Look at the likes of Collins, crowley, dillon and lillis and look how much they've come on this year. I know lillis and dillon are well established but they've been given a new lease of life this year. Iron sharpens iron and giving new lads trials with the county seniors and hopefully bringing some on board for the squad will bring lads on no end. Was highly impressed with a lot of newer faces this year. Ideally we'll have another 5-7new faces for next year battling for spots. I also hope cahir comes back (and the likes of Conor Merideth) for one last good go of it. When he's fit and strong he's some player and we need more top defenders.

Brody,

Cahir Healy, Timmons, Dillon,

Attride, Begley, Collins/Crowley/Merideth

Looks like a solid back line to me.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 12, 2018, 01:00:48 AM
Laois Senior Footballers Season Review - Player of the Year, Game of the Year, and much more

https://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/gaelic-games/323456/laois-senior-footballers-season-review-player-of-the-year-game-of-the-year-and-much-more.html


Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Tony on July 12, 2018, 10:45:15 AM
Just an experimental 2019 line-up, look at that power house of a FF line  :P. Brendan out as third midfielder if needs be .

Brody,

Cahir Healy, Timmons, Dillon,

Attride, Begley, Collins

JOL, Lillis

Conor Merideth, P. Kingston,  D' O Reilly,

Evan O Carroll, Brendan Quigley, Donie Kingston.

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 12, 2018, 11:51:03 AM
Are we in a masters championship next season ?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Laoiseabu on July 12, 2018, 01:07:44 PM
Tony, Collins and Crowley are not up to standard. Itís what happens when the older guys go is what Iím worried about . Just cause you make a Laois team doesnít mean you are up to intercounty standard . But what we have is what we have
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Laoiseabu on July 12, 2018, 01:09:16 PM
Another example is Farrell from Ballylinan . Clearly not up to standard .
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Tony on July 12, 2018, 02:11:06 PM
Are we in a masters championship next season ?
If you consider an average age amongst those 15 players of 26.1 years old to be "masters", then yeah we'll be in a masters competition. If, like me, you consider 26.1 years old to be a good median age for the starting 15 then we need not panic. Plenty of strong younger lads challenging for spots, too. Like Piggott, Crowley, Lowry and Moore. And to Laoisabu, those players are starting out their inter county career, very young lads. I was impressed with them this year and they will come on in standard. How you can say Collins or Crowley are not up to inter county standard is beyond me. I see good potential in those lads, same as Farrell. Plenty of potential in Eoin Lowry, Danny O Reilly and Sean Moore too. Once we harness that incoming potential and make them a lot stronger with s&c, I'm not that worried as we still have a lot of big players well under 30 - (Brody 24, Dillon 28, Attride 25, JOL 29, Donie and Paul Kingston 27/23, Even O carroll 25 etc). The big emphasis must now be to bring on those younger lads coming through. I wish for Sugrue to be kept on if we can at all. After 3-4 years of poor management, we finally have a senior set up that does these players justice.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: High Fielder on July 12, 2018, 02:40:23 PM
Another example is Farrell from Ballylinan . Clearly not up to standard .

Your posts are starting to rot me. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but dismissing lads so readily and naming them individually is quite frankly pathetic. Until you can find better, they are the ones putting in the time and pulling on the jersey. This isn't the X fFactor you know
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Nameless on July 12, 2018, 03:19:08 PM
Someone stated that this Laoiseabu fella was from Kildare, wherever he's from he should be ignored.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: SCFC on July 12, 2018, 03:54:51 PM
Another example is Farrell from Ballylinan . Clearly not up to standard .

Your posts are starting to rot me. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but dismissing lads so readily and naming them individually is quite frankly pathetic. Until you can find better, they are the ones putting in the time and pulling on the jersey. This isn't the X fFactor you know
Have to agree. I gave out as much as anyone about Alan who had a very poor game on Sunday but to dismiss him, Collins and Crowley outright as "not up to standard" is most unfair.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship Monaghan next in NAVAN 2pm Sunday 8th July
Post by: Tony on July 12, 2018, 04:03:11 PM
Another example is Farrell from Ballylinan . Clearly not up to standard .

Your posts are starting to rot me. Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but dismissing lads so readily and naming them individually is quite frankly pathetic. Until you can find better, they are the ones putting in the time and pulling on the jersey. This isn't the X fFactor you know
Exactly, well said High Fielder.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Giovanni on July 12, 2018, 06:03:50 PM
It's possible of course that he has very high standards.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: redsetanta on July 12, 2018, 06:12:41 PM
The team would get a pass with merit for the season.

There were a few things particularly in attack that needs to be worked on like shot selection, interplay and passing. It was a bit deja vu in Navan last week after the Leinster final.

The dejection on Sugrue's face as he was crouched on the sideline at the final whistle told it's own story. He obviously thought we'd do a lot better.

Based on how this year went there's no reason why we cannot be in a another league final come April. Sugrue needs to get the backing of the CB as we don't want another Cheddar scenario.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Laoiseabu on July 12, 2018, 07:23:32 PM
Iím just comparing these guys to the standard it would take to challenge the Dublinís and Kerryís ? We used to be always able to do that in the good old days
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Laoiseabu on July 12, 2018, 07:42:37 PM
Iíve got a good idea. We should all reveal our true identities and say who we really are
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: High Fielder on July 12, 2018, 08:02:20 PM
You first....
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: on the hop on July 13, 2018, 12:54:12 AM
From seeing every game from o byrne cup to our exit last week it was great to see it improve from how bad they were last year. A lot of players were tried but many didn't make the grade and we kind of ended up with the same team, but one that was motivated better. All credit to sugure in this aspect. Achieving promotion and getting to the Leinster final was great, the lack of quality and squad depth caught up with us when we faced the better teams. Tactically at times we were poor as well. I hope john stays on, he deserves it for the work he put in. I think div. 3 will be tough but it might help develop new players better. John himself, probably learned a lot and if he stays on their is plenty to work on in terms of the team and his own tactics. Hopefully the better exposure and good will towards the team might bring a bit more badly needed finance in. Hopefully it also might attract more players to put in the massive effort needed to compete at this level. Getting the right players or developing them will be one of the big problems.

We have a good keeper, and looks like a decent back up. We have an issue with kickouts in that we loose a lot of them when we go long. Not having a mobile midfielder doesn't help. Our captain will be a big plus when back and Dillon has developed well. Nerney has a lot going for him but we are still light on full back line options. We have a ball of middle third players, nearly all of them not at the required standard for top level. It's a pity that begley was not a few years younger. Defending has been a problem all year especially runners from deep or one on one tackling. A lot of scores have come down the sides.If we are going to play a sweeper I still would prefer Lillis in that role. Both midfielders went well but are too alike, the lack of pace or an attacking option to get ahead or come off the shoulder was a rare enough. It's hard to play withdrawn wing forwards and not have midfielders coming through in support. The forward play has been up and down. The issues had been mentioned several times, bar Evan that distinct lack of killer pace to stretch defences. Paul Kingston looked the part as an 11 but struggled in the last few games. Free taking has been an issue, for whatever reason we have missed a lot of simple frees, vital in games. I would hope that Evan would get some coaching in this regard, he was still missing the same frees in the last game that he was missing in the sigerson.

Hopefully a few players of that needed quality can be found, there are a few away for the summer that hopefully will return. An odd Bolter to come through, someone like Flanagan from the town. Interesting summer.

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 13, 2018, 11:57:48 AM
Saunders with Portlaoise is meant to be very good, have never seen him myself.   
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: on the hop on July 13, 2018, 12:10:55 PM
Saunders with Portlaoise is meant to be very good, have never seen him myself.

Mentioned him a while back, saw him last year. I think they were trying him at full back for a while earlier in the year
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Chrimtain on July 13, 2018, 12:52:12 PM
There are players out there who should be looked at.........Conor Meredith (O'Dempsey's), Colm Murphy, Adam Ryan, Patrick O'Sullivan (Portarlington), Gary Saunders, Frank Flanagan (Portlaoise) and Diarmuid Whelan (Balylinan).

I would like to know what ever happened to Sean Byrne of Portarlington? He looked like a great prospect a couple of years ago?

Hopefully John Sugrue can get these guys (and others) involved next year.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Heshs Umpire on July 13, 2018, 02:21:18 PM
I would like to know what ever happened to Sean Byrne of Portarlington? He looked like a great prospect a couple of years ago?
He's had a terrible run with injury or injuries, not sure which. Hasn't played for more than a year now.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Laoiseabu on July 13, 2018, 08:14:02 PM
He (Byrne)could be back for the championship I heard heís not fully recovered yet. Paddy O Sullivan should of been on the Laois panel this year.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Laoiseabu on July 13, 2018, 08:16:56 PM
Itís a pity David Murphy didnít have more days in a Laois shirt he was ports best player last year despite being probably their oldest. Jason Moore was one who would of been involved only for commitments with the army or navy .
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Unlaoised on July 16, 2018, 03:30:12 PM
Itís a pity David Murphy didnít have more days in a Laois shirt he was ports best player last year despite being probably their oldest. Jason Moore was one who would of been involved only for commitments with the army or navy .

Jason Moore with the white ankle socks white boots and the nice tan.....He can fairly move thought to be fair to him.

Never thought he would be good enough for county.

Byrne is one i hope comes back well he was a fine football from Port

There is five or six youngesters with Portlaoise that should be brought in next year some already named here but there are others!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 22, 2018, 08:12:43 PM
That fella Beggan for Monaghan poor enough not worth an all star ?? Thatís the standard for the deluded among us.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: The PRO on July 22, 2018, 08:52:08 PM
That fella Begin for Monaghan poor enough not worth an all star ?? Thatís the standard for the deluded among us.
Would someone translate this please?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: steven seagal on July 22, 2018, 09:02:29 PM
Yeah, happy to.

What he's really saying is this - 'I shit my pants again playing on the trampoline and my mammy says I can't go see the new Teen Titans movie in the cinema, so I'm mad about everything'

I think that's more or less it, in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Tony on July 22, 2018, 09:42:58 PM
That fella Begin for Monaghan poor enough not worth an all star ?? Thatís the standard for the deluded among us.
Would someone translate this please?
I think what he's trying to say is that some people on here, including myself, believe Brody is not far off being nominated for an all-star. Ballyroan's critical thinking seems to be off, so he assumes because we rate Brody, we don't rate Beggan. Not sure what he's on about to be honest. Everyone knows Beggan is a class, serious keeper, and there isn't any post that says otherwise on here.

On a side note, the fact that Monaghan are doing very well in the Super 8's looks well on our ability and potential, in my opinion. We were competitive enough with them for large periods of the Laois Monaghan match and were still in the game with 5 mins to go. The fact that we were fairly competitive with what looks like a top 4 team bodes well for next year, hopefully.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Laoiseabu on July 22, 2018, 10:58:40 PM
Iíd say Beggan wont be far off an all star , he will probably get it . His right foot in fairness is some weapon. Big man too
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 23, 2018, 12:55:53 AM
While I would Beggan has a great kickout the primary job of a goalkeeper is to stop shots. Beggan failed to do that at a vital time today.

No other keeper has come near our man Brody this year in that regard and for that reason he would be well justified an all star nomination.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 23, 2018, 08:43:16 AM
Seriously ? Beggan will get the All Star because his the best, Brody will possibly get an nomination but the way these things work it is as likely he wonít.  Beggan nailed on for an all star
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 23, 2018, 09:16:36 AM
That fella Begin for Monaghan poor enough not worth an all star ?? Thatís the standard for the deluded among us.
Would someone translate this please?
I think what he's trying to say is that some people on here, including myself, believe Brody is not far off being nominated for an all-star. Ballyroan's critical thinking seems to be off, so he assumes because we rate Brody, we don't rate Beggan. Not sure what he's on about to be honest. Everyone knows Beggan is a class, serious keeper, and there isn't any post that says otherwise on here.

On a side note, the fact that Monaghan are doing very well in the Super 8's looks well on our ability and potential, in my opinion. We were competitive enough with them for large periods of the Laois Monaghan match and were still in the game with 5 mins to go. The fact that we were fairly competitive with what looks like a top 4 team bodes well for next year, hopefully.
It was the exact same carry on, when we played Dublin in Kilkenny 2 years ago. When the other team are playing in 2nd gear, as Monaghan were in the 2nd half against us.  You cannot judge where we are, Brody there is no denying his performance against Monaghan but in all reality his busy because our defense is not holding up.  I get it we have to look at the positives, but comparisons with Monaghan who have been building over 4 or 5 years are overly optimistic.  We really need to keep progressing up the League and hopefully championship draws are kind. 

Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: The PRO on July 23, 2018, 02:06:56 PM
Beggan is a good footballer but I'm not so sure he's a good goalkeeper.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Tony on July 26, 2018, 03:02:02 PM
That fella Begin for Monaghan poor enough not worth an all star ?? Thatís the standard for the deluded among us.
Would someone translate this please?
I think what he's trying to say is that some people on here, including myself, believe Brody is not far off being nominated for an all-star. Ballyroan's critical thinking seems to be off, so he assumes because we rate Brody, we don't rate Beggan. Not sure what he's on about to be honest. Everyone knows Beggan is a class, serious keeper, and there isn't any post that says otherwise on here.

On a side note, the fact that Monaghan are doing very well in the Super 8's looks well on our ability and potential, in my opinion. We were competitive enough with them for large periods of the Laois Monaghan match and were still in the game with 5 mins to go. The fact that we were fairly competitive with what looks like a top 4 team bodes well for next year, hopefully.
It was the exact same carry on, when we played Dublin in Kilkenny 2 years ago. When the other team are playing in 2nd gear, as Monaghan were in the 2nd half against us.  You cannot judge where we are, Brody there is no denying his performance against Monaghan but in all reality his busy because our defense is not holding up.  I get it we have to look at the positives, but comparisons with Monaghan who have been building over 4 or 5 years are overly optimistic.  We really need to keep progressing up the League and hopefully championship draws are kind.

Saying that the only reason we have periods of playing well against good teams is that they're in 2nd gear makes no sense. So Dublin, a team who butcher everyone and try to beat you by a hockey score, just went easy on us when we started to play well. Yeah right. Or Monaghan were going easy on us in the 2nd half in Navan this year? No they weren't. We need to give ourselves credit and not be afraid of it. Monaghan were the better team but we competed well enough with them for 30- 35 mins. We won the 2nd half there. The prize was a super 8's spot - of course they were not going in 2nd gear.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 26, 2018, 03:47:46 PM
Yes they were Tony
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: SCFC on July 27, 2018, 03:25:45 PM
Yes they were Tony
Will you stop spouting crap? Monaghan led us by 4 points with one minute left in normal time and 5 minutes to be added on when Donie snatched at that half chance for a goal.
And your theory is they were taking it handy, in second gear, because they knew the game was in the bag?
That's some line of thinking to be fair...
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Jd on July 27, 2018, 04:06:37 PM
Oh lord we've had a fairly good year given where we were coming from and yet some people on here want to belittle the efforts of boys that trained from last October and the only credit they get from some people is "ah Dublin were at half pace or Monaghan weren't trying or so and so isn't good enough to play county football " I'd love to see some of these experts try to last two weeks of what them players put in on a shitty wet night in January before commenting or putting a lad down. They have my thanks and gratitude !!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 27, 2018, 05:03:14 PM
Nobody is knocking what Laois have done this year,  and to the general public the narrative is fine.  However by implying that we were competitive with Dublin or Monaghan leads you to believe that we will be competitive with Div 1 teams next year.  When in reality that's far from the truth, what Laois need to do is consistently improve rather than talking about some magic overnight transformation.  We need to year on year improve, this year was a fine start we should improve on it.   I think I have always been fair in this regard.  There is no reason we can't achieve a level of consistency like Monaghan have done over the last 5 years by hard work over a period of time like everyone else.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Laoiseabu on July 27, 2018, 11:17:50 PM
There needs to be some middle ground here. I feel Sugrue got as much out of them this year as he possibly could . Div 4 Champs . Leinster final appearance . We canít delude ourselves either . A lot of the key players are over 30 now which Means that there will be a large rebuilding process ahead. Things may get bumpy again before they get better as there isnít many coming through to replace our older heads but John Sugrue seems to be a good candidate in the long term to try and Make us competitive again.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: High Fielder on July 28, 2018, 12:11:34 PM
I don't subscribe to the "not much coming through" argument. I think there's plenty of good footballers out there. In my opinion, John Sugrue is a mile clear of any other coach in Laois. In my opinion, he is capable of getting the best out of individuals and teams, and I honesty don't believe anyone else in Laois can; be it club or county. Unfortunately, there is only one John Sugrue and not every player will get the benefit of his guidance. If I was an up and coming coach in Laois, I would seriously consider going outside the county to try and gain some proper experience. There is nothing to be learned doing things the way we have done them this last however many years. Our preparation is miles off. Our coaching is miles off. And consequently, our teams have been miles off too. There have always been good footballers in Laois and there will continue to be. It's what we do with them that matters.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Joeythelips on August 06, 2018, 11:53:50 AM
I don't subscribe to the "not much coming through" argument. I think there's plenty of good footballers out there. In my opinion, John Sugrue is a mile clear of any other coach in Laois. In my opinion, he is capable of getting the best out of individuals and teams, and I honesty don't believe anyone else in Laois can; be it club or county. Unfortunately, there is only one John Sugrue and not every player will get the benefit of his guidance. If I was an up and coming coach in Laois, I would seriously consider going outside the county to try and gain some proper experience. There is nothing to be learned doing things the way we have done them this last however many years. Our preparation is miles off. Our coaching is miles off. And consequently, our teams have been miles off too. There have always been good footballers in Laois and there will continue to be. It's what we do with them that matters.

Another point to mention here is that Sugrue did have a bit of an unknown quality to him, and given the mess Laois have been in recent years it would be hard har for some to fully commit to inter county level. After seeing how Laois performed this year it is clear to all involved that we have a management team who can get the best out of our players so anyone else out there who wants to commit can no longer go in half hearted. Sugrue will have had a good opportunity to take a look at the club scene.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Chrimtain on August 06, 2018, 01:46:53 PM
Hope Kerry don't look to John Sugrue to replace Fitzmaurice.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Keyser SŲze on August 06, 2018, 02:08:16 PM
Hope Kerry don't look to John Sugrue to replace Fitzmaurice.

That would be a bit of a leap considering some of the candidates available!
Part of the backroom team perhaps?
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Don Draper on August 07, 2018, 12:17:17 PM
Hope Kerry don't look to John Sugrue to replace Fitzmaurice.

That would be a bit of a leap considering some of the candidates available!
Part of the backroom team perhaps?
Not a stretch at all truth be told.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: redsetanta on August 07, 2018, 01:13:46 PM
They might go with the tried and tested in JAck O'Connor. He did manage a lot of those young lads to minor All Irelands. He would be the right man for a year or two. Surely Kerry are planning to stop Dublins 5 in a row.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Uisce on August 07, 2018, 01:25:38 PM
As much of a blow as it would be for Laois I would be happy for John if he did get an opportunity to go for the job. I would be surprised if it wasn't an ambition of his and I agree that it wouldn't be a big surprise if Kerry did approach him!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Keyser SŲze on August 07, 2018, 01:34:39 PM
Jack O' Connor, Liam Kearns, Pat O' Shea and Peter Keane are all deservedly ahead of him in the pecking around.
Sugrue is a proven coach, and has done a good job as Laois manager.

But a Division 4 title at intercounty level is not going to be sufficient to
A) Match the guys mentioned above
B) Entice an already embattled Kerry County Board to take a chance on him. They have received serious flack from within for back Fitzmaurice for as long as they did. They are not going to take this unnecessary chance.

Add to all of the above that he has a young family and a business that is a 6 hour round trip from Killarney (up to 5 times per week).

This is not going to happen.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Don Draper on August 07, 2018, 03:07:00 PM
John is well respected in Kerry circles. His achievement in winning a county title with an unfancied South Kerry side was a serious one, and treated accordingly down south.

I'd hope to God we don't lose him, but he's a much more desirable option than a Kearns.

As for the Kerry CB worried about taking flak, if they were that way inclined, they'd not have given EF another 3 years last Autumn. The Kerry CB will do their own thing in the best interest of Kerry GAA. If they believe Sugrue is the man, they won't give a f**k who says what.

The logisitics would be the issue, but do not underestimate the temptation if it comes up.  The savage loves his native shore.
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Unlaoised on August 07, 2018, 04:39:01 PM
Its a job he would find hard to turn down should he get offered.

A massive loss to Laois if he went.

A good year would be nearly wasted.

With John in charge I feel we can get through div 3 next year in fact id be confident!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: Keyser SŲze on August 07, 2018, 06:37:33 PM
Agree to disagree, but I cannot see him being offered the chance to manage Kerry at this point!
Title: Re: Laois footballers the Championship 2018 What went on and the review!
Post by: OTF on August 10, 2018, 06:57:34 PM
Great win for Robbie Cannon in Irish Close today