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Title: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on January 18, 2018, 09:22:43 PM
What attendances are people predicting for the upcoming league games? Personally, I think we will see record crowds this year across the country. Starting off in Cork in the new PUC with Cork Tipp and Cork Kilkenny under lights should be hitting 15,000-20,000.
There have been some strong crowds already in the Preseason Competitions such as
5,000 in Enniskillen for Fermanagh vs. Tyrone
3000 in the Hyde yesterday for Mayo/Ros
3200 at Gaelic Grounds for Clare v Limerick

The O'Byrne Cup final will more than likely now see a poor attendance on Sunday as it's on in Portlaois and is being covered on TG4. Any predictions on the attendance front for the coming year?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: T Fearon on January 19, 2018, 07:08:33 AM
I predict the Dubs will have a large following,and both All Ireland Finals will be sell outs.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: seafoid on January 19, 2018, 08:07:08 AM
I predict the Dubs will have a large following,and both All Ireland Finals will be sell outs.
Everyone in the Free State is a sell out.
If the All Ireland took place in Belfast there would be no sell outs.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on January 19, 2018, 09:08:01 AM
Will there be anyone paying in in Tuam Sunday?
How many at Leitrim/Sligo in Prentyville th'other night?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on January 19, 2018, 09:15:29 AM
Football attendances will be pretty low as the consequences of GAA financial doping kicks in further.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: AZOffaly on January 19, 2018, 09:49:16 AM
Football attendances will be pretty low as the consequences of GAA financial doping kicks in further.

I think Munster Hurling attendances will suffer on a per game basis, because of the round robin. However, as they usually do, they'll focus on the top line number which will look to have increased because you have so many extra games.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: seafoid on January 19, 2018, 09:58:02 AM
Football attendances will be pretty low as the consequences of GAA financial doping kicks in further.
I think it is also economic
And the championship is boring
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Owenmoresider on January 19, 2018, 09:58:57 AM
Football attendances will be pretty low as the consequences of GAA financial doping kicks in further.

I think Munster Hurling attendances will suffer on a per game basis, because of the round robin. However, as they usually do, they'll focus on the top line number which will look to have increased because you have so many extra games.
At least you might get some full houses now that Clare and Waterford can host their home fixtures again.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: seafoid on January 19, 2018, 10:06:21 AM
Total attendances are down 28% since 2001.
The GAA has really missed Galway.
Per match attendances are way down too.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: AZOffaly on January 19, 2018, 10:06:58 AM
True. Full small houses are better than half empty big ones.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: AZOffaly on January 19, 2018, 10:08:11 AM
Total attendances are down 28% since 2001.
The GAA has really missed Galway.
Per match attendances are way down too.

Is that true? I seem to see every year that total attendances are the same or slightly more than the previous year? Actually that can't be right seafoid. Sure the qualifiers came in then, and all those extra matches have to have seen attendances increase.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Owenmoresider on January 19, 2018, 10:13:46 AM
Total attendances are down 28% since 2001.
The GAA has really missed Galway.
Per match attendances are way down too.

Is that true? I seem to see every year that total attendances are the same or slightly more than the previous year? Actually that can't be right seafoid. Sure the qualifiers came in then, and all those extra matches have to have seen attendances increase.
Average attendance perhaps, though when you think to 2001 there were serious crowds at the matches, the hurling games in Munster were near full if not full, Leinster was still holding up at KK were only starting their utter dominance, and on the football side the crowds were quite good too, provincial championships were still drawing serious crowds and especially with the novelty of the qualifiers. I remember the Sligo-Galway games around that time and Markievicz was fairly packed, both counties have lost that large (well large by our standards) following and we're hardly alone in that.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: seafoid on January 19, 2018, 10:26:06 AM
Total attendances are down 28% since 2001.
The GAA has really missed Galway.
Per match attendances are way down too.

Is that true? I seem to see every year that total attendances are the same or slightly more than the previous year? Actually that can't be right seafoid. Sure the qualifiers came in then, and all those extra matches have to have seen attendances increase.
Average attendance perhaps, though when you think to 2001 there were serious crowds at the matches, the hurling games in Munster were near full if not full, Leinster was still holding up at KK were only starting their utter dominance, and on the football side the crowds were quite good too, provincial championships were still drawing serious crowds and especially with the novelty of the qualifiers. I remember the Sligo-Galway games around that time and Markievicz was fairly packed, both counties have lost that large (well large by our standards) following and we're hardly alone in that.
2008 and the crash must have hurt the numbers. Football potential is very concentrated. No strong Ulster team (sorry, Tyrone)
Most of the matches are not that interesting enough to draw people to grounds in fairness 
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: AZOffaly on January 19, 2018, 10:32:15 AM
I did a bit of digging. Total attendances are down every year (in football) since 2007 or so. There was a massive spike in 2001/2 after the qualifiers were introduced (as you'd expect).

Since the Leinster Championship has turned into a procession, the total numbers have slipped 28%.

Hurling is pretty steady, and of course this year, with the Super 8s and the Round Robin in munster, the GAA can point to the top level number and say 'See, people love the way we do stuff'.

The average attendances have largely been slumping since the qualifiers were brought in, which was one of my arguments against the qualifiers. The bank doesn't count averages though, it just wants to see the total revenue.

Even at that though, it's noticeable that the total figure has been declining steadily since about 2006, after the initial qualifier bounce, to the extent that the total figure in 2016 was 788,746, with 60 games, whereas in 2000, the final pre-qualifier year, the total was 686,553, with only 35 games.

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: CJ2017 on January 19, 2018, 10:52:55 AM
Surely if Dublin make the Top 8 this year the away/outside Croke park game would be a sell out.
I believe the group this year if Dublin won Leinster would involve the Ulster Champs,
Munster Runner up (or team that beats them in qualifiers) and Connacht Runners up (or
team that beats them)
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: AZOffaly on January 19, 2018, 10:59:13 AM
Surely if Dublin make the Top 8 this year the away/outside Croke park game would be a sell out.
I believe the group this year if Dublin won Leinster would involve the Ulster Champs,
Munster Runner up (or team that beats them in qualifiers) and Connacht Runners up (or
team that beats them)

The Super 8 replaces the quarter finals. So instead of 4 games, we have 12 games. Those additional 8 games will give a significant boost (in the first couple of years at least - maybe longer) to the total amount. No doubt about it.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: seafoid on January 19, 2018, 11:01:31 AM
I did a bit of digging. Total attendances are down every year (in football) since 2007 or so. There was a massive spike in 2001/2 after the qualifiers were introduced (as you'd expect).

Since the Leinster Championship has turned into a procession, the total numbers have slipped 28%.

Hurling is pretty steady, and of course this year, with the Super 8s and the Round Robin in munster, the GAA can point to the top level number and say 'See, people love the way we do stuff'.

The average attendances have largely been slumping since the qualifiers were brought in, which was one of my arguments against the qualifiers. The bank doesn't count averages though, it just wants to see the total revenue.

Even at that though, it's noticeable that the total figure has been declining steadily since about 2006, after the initial qualifier bounce, to the extent that the total figure in 2016 was 788,746, with 60 games, whereas in 2000, the final pre-qualifier year, the total was 686,553, with only 35 games.
The qualifiers in 01 brought the total to 1.08 million. The qualifier effect has disappeared..
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: AZOffaly on January 19, 2018, 11:07:06 AM
I did a bit of digging. Total attendances are down every year (in football) since 2007 or so. There was a massive spike in 2001/2 after the qualifiers were introduced (as you'd expect).

Since the Leinster Championship has turned into a procession, the total numbers have slipped 28%.

Hurling is pretty steady, and of course this year, with the Super 8s and the Round Robin in munster, the GAA can point to the top level number and say 'See, people love the way we do stuff'.

The average attendances have largely been slumping since the qualifiers were brought in, which was one of my arguments against the qualifiers. The bank doesn't count averages though, it just wants to see the total revenue.

Even at that though, it's noticeable that the total figure has been declining steadily since about 2006, after the initial qualifier bounce, to the extent that the total figure in 2016 was 788,746, with 60 games, whereas in 2000, the final pre-qualifier year, the total was 686,553, with only 35 games.
The qualifiers in 01 brought the total to 1.08 million. The qualifier effect has disappeared..

It has, but only since th mid 00s, it wasn't an immediate slump, which is what i thought you were saying originally.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: rosnarun on January 19, 2018, 11:14:45 AM
I did a bit of digging. Total attendances are down every year (in football) since 2007 or so. There was a massive spike in 2001/2 after the qualifiers were introduced (as you'd expect).

Since the Leinster Championship has turned into a procession, the total numbers have slipped 28%.

Hurling is pretty steady, and of course this year, with the Super 8s and the Round Robin in munster, the GAA can point to the top level number and say 'See, people love the way we do stuff'.

The average attendances have largely been slumping since the qualifiers were brought in, which was one of my arguments against the qualifiers. The bank doesn't count averages though, it just wants to see the total revenue.

Even at that though, it's noticeable that the total figure has been declining steadily since about 2006, after the initial qualifier bounce, to the extent that the total figure in 2016 was 788,746, with 60 games, whereas in 2000, the final pre-qualifier year, the total was 686,553, with only 35 games.
The qualifiers in 01 brought the total to 1.08 million. The qualifier effect has disappeared..


I would love if the GAA built an ultra modern all seater Stadium for about 10-15K with floodlights and artificial pitch some where in the Midland. would get a lot of use as most midland pitches are dumps and rarely filled  newbridge, Mullingar  , longford  navan hyde park etc are not fit for purpose at the moment .
Im sure the LGFA would make great use of it as well as inter county club games
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: AZOffaly on January 19, 2018, 11:15:41 AM
What's wrong with Mullingar? And Tullamore is a fine setup. Portlaoise is grand too.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on January 19, 2018, 11:24:29 AM
Total attendances are down 28% since 2001.
The GAA has really missed Galway.
Per match attendances are way down too.
Are those 90 Galway season ticket holders would make all the difference😆
I suspect the Connacht Council are praying feverishly that Mayowestros will reach the Connacht Final this year. 15k extra X  €35 .....
So far ye've  blamed the Qualifiers and Dublin dominance (plus no new teams breaking through).
There's also the fact that throwball has ruined the game as a spectacle.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: tonto1888 on January 19, 2018, 11:54:13 AM
What's wrong with Mullingar?

they don't like away fans coming and drinking their beer and filling their stadium
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: CJ2017 on January 19, 2018, 12:25:54 PM
I did a bit of digging. Total attendances are down every year (in football) since 2007 or so. There was a massive spike in 2001/2 after the qualifiers were introduced (as you'd expect).

Since the Leinster Championship has turned into a procession, the total numbers have slipped 28%.

Hurling is pretty steady, and of course this year, with the Super 8s and the Round Robin in munster, the GAA can point to the top level number and say 'See, people love the way we do stuff'.

The average attendances have largely been slumping since the qualifiers were brought in, which was one of my arguments against the qualifiers. The bank doesn't count averages though, it just wants to see the total revenue.

Even at that though, it's noticeable that the total figure has been declining steadily since about 2006, after the initial qualifier bounce, to the extent that the total figure in 2016 was 788,746, with 60 games, whereas in 2000, the final pre-qualifier year, the total was 686,553, with only 35 games.
The qualifiers in 01 brought the total to 1.08 million. The qualifier effect has disappeared..


I would love if the GAA built an ultra modern all seater Stadium for about 10-15K with floodlights and artificial pitch some where in the Midland. would get a lot of use as most midland pitches are dumps and rarely filled  newbridge, Mullingar  , longford  navan hyde park etc are not fit for purpose at the moment .
Im sure the LGFA would make great use of it as well as inter county club games

Have a look at the plans for Pairc Tailteann - intended capacity 20-22k
http://meath.gaa.ie/proposed-redevelopment-pairc-tailteann-public-consultation/
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: manfromdelmonte on January 19, 2018, 01:57:28 PM
Surely if Dublin make the Top 8 this year the away/outside Croke park game would be a sell out.
I believe the group this year if Dublin won Leinster would involve the Ulster Champs,
Munster Runner up (or team that beats them in qualifiers) and Connacht Runners up (or
team that beats them)
would the Dubs help fill McHale Park, the Hyde or Salthill?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: rosnarun on January 19, 2018, 03:40:09 PM
What's wrong with Mullingar? And Tullamore is a fine setup. Portlaoise is grand too.
tullamore is excellent . portlaoise is so so  . I didn't mention either .
Mullingar is an absolute kip, stand takes about 300 people last league match I went to there it was full 10 mins after ground was opened and they continued to let people in out of the rain .
felt very dangerous a bit like hyde park but on a slightly smaller scale.
I feel a maller topclass stadium would add a whole new dimension,
maybe the ladies should buklid it the government would hadve a hard time not fully backing it after all they have given to mens sports
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on January 20, 2018, 10:01:07 PM
An attendance of 3,544 at the Walsh Cup hurling final between Wexford and Kilkenny at Nowlan Park today
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on January 26, 2018, 10:49:55 AM
Couldn't find anywhere else for this

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/research-flags-modern-explosion-in-hand-passing-466288.html

Not too long ago some Committee told us that throwball was reducing!!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: naka on January 26, 2018, 10:59:17 AM
Total attendances are down 28% since 2001.
The GAA has really missed Galway.
Per match attendances are way down too.
Armagh’s hey day

Truth though as long as  the Dublin bandwagon rolling Croke Park don’t care that’s gaa dying in rest of the country
Interest is falling off drastically.
I am involved in two clubs and drop off substantial
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on January 26, 2018, 12:01:39 PM
Total attendances are down 28% since 2001.
The GAA has really missed Galway.
Per match attendances are way down too.

and Meath, and Kildare, and Cork, and Armagh, and all the small counties who gave a damn back then!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: APM on January 26, 2018, 12:50:10 PM
It's a number of things:
Not as good to watch
The blanket means that as a spectacle the game isn't as good.  I don't care what anyone says, but this business of passing the ball around in an arc around the 50 is not as good to watch as quick ball into a the full forward line, with guys like Mickey Linden, Marsden, Canavan and McDonnell out in front of their marker and taking on their men.  We just don't see as much of this in today's game as 2001.

Perception and negativity
Why would I be bothered going to games if the so-called experts keep telling me that the product is rubbish.  Notwithstanding what I have said above, I still get a kick out of watching football and we still have some fantastic games, but when the very pundits that you would expect to be promoting the game on TV are saying that every game is shite, it's little wonder attendances are falling.  The amount of negativity surrounding the games is at an all time high and it is now in vogue at all levels, from pundits down to club level, to criticise county football. 

Hammerings
In 2001 there were some hammerings, but I don't think there were so many as there are now.  Leinster was competitive.  Ulster, despite the fact that two teams dominated from 1999 to 2010, was still competitive.  Dublin matches now literally aren't worth watching until they reach the Semi-Final or Final.  They are playing at a professional level.   

Over Exposure
I remember thinking that with so many games televised and so much coverage back around 04, that supporters would lap it up for a while, but that eventually people would take it for granted and less would do them. Take the first Ulster Final that went to HQ in 2004.  There was 60,000 there.  Only 30,000 for the Ulster Final Replay in '05.  The qualifier effect was alive and well, with Sligo, Fermanagh, Limerick, Derry, Donegal getting good runs.  There were loads of novel pairings - I remember Sligo and Kildare I think attracting a great crowd on a Saturday night around '04.

Half Empty Stadiums
There is rarely a decent atmosphere in a half-full Croke Park.  It looks terrible on TV and exacerbates the notion that we have a poor product.  I cannot understand organisers taking smallish games to big stadiums.  Better to have a small ground filled to capacity, because the atmosphere is all part of the product.

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Bord na Mona man on January 26, 2018, 01:32:25 PM
It's a number of things:
Not as good to watch
The blanket means that as a spectacle the game isn't as good.  I don't care what anyone says, but this business of passing the ball around in an arc around the 50 is not as good to watch as quick ball into a the full forward line, with guys like Mickey Linden, Marsden, Canavan and McDonnell out in front of their marker and taking on their men.  We just don't see as much of this in today's game as 2001.

Perception and negativity
Why would I be bothered going to games if the so-called experts keep telling me that the product is rubbish.  Notwithstanding what I have said above, I still get a kick out of watching football and we still have some fantastic games, but when the very pundits that you would expect to be promoting the game on TV are saying that every game is shite, it's little wonder attendances are falling.  The amount of negativity surrounding the games is at an all time high and it is now in vogue at all levels, from pundits down to club level, to criticise county football. 

Hammerings
In 2001 there were some hammerings, but I don't think there were so many as there are now.  Leinster was competitive.  Ulster, despite the fact that two teams dominated from 1999 to 2010, was still competitive.  Dublin matches now literally aren't worth watching until they reach the Semi-Final or Final.  They are playing at a professional level.   

Over Exposure
I remember thinking that with so many games televised and so much coverage back around 04, that supporters would lap it up for a while, but that eventually people would take it for granted and less would do them. Take the first Ulster Final that went to HQ in 2004.  There was 60,000 there.  Only 30,000 for the Ulster Final Replay in '05.  The qualifier effect was alive and well, with Sligo, Fermanagh, Limerick, Derry, Donegal getting good runs.  There were loads of novel pairings - I remember Sligo and Kildare I think attracting a great crowd on a Saturday night around '04.

Half Empty Stadiums
There is rarely a decent atmosphere in a half-full Croke Park.  It looks terrible on TV and exacerbates the notion that we have a poor product.  I cannot understand organisers taking smallish games to big stadiums.  Better to have a small ground filled to capacity, because the atmosphere is all part of the product.

Very well put. The sector who will cause the swelling and shrinking of attendances is the moderately interested championship spectator. These swing voters can be swayed one way or another by a lot of factors - The weather, the distance, the cost, the beer, the expected result and a dozen other things.

Being continually told that they are being served up slop is bound to have an affect and cause them to stay away.

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on January 26, 2018, 01:43:17 PM
It's a number of things:
Not as good to watch
The blanket means that as a spectacle the game isn't as good.  I don't care what anyone says, but this business of passing the ball around in an arc around the 50 is not as good to watch as quick ball into a the full forward line, with guys like Mickey Linden, Marsden, Canavan and McDonnell out in front of their marker and taking on their men.  We just don't see as much of this in today's game as 2001.

Perception and negativity
Why would I be bothered going to games if the so-called experts keep telling me that the product is rubbish.  Notwithstanding what I have said above, I still get a kick out of watching football and we still have some fantastic games, but when the very pundits that you would expect to be promoting the game on TV are saying that every game is shite, it's little wonder attendances are falling.  The amount of negativity surrounding the games is at an all time high and it is now in vogue at all levels, from pundits down to club level, to criticise county football. 

Hammerings
In 2001 there were some hammerings, but I don't think there were so many as there are now.  Leinster was competitive.  Ulster, despite the fact that two teams dominated from 1999 to 2010, was still competitive.  Dublin matches now literally aren't worth watching until they reach the Semi-Final or Final.  They are playing at a professional level.   

Over Exposure
I remember thinking that with so many games televised and so much coverage back around 04, that supporters would lap it up for a while, but that eventually people would take it for granted and less would do them. Take the first Ulster Final that went to HQ in 2004.  There was 60,000 there.  Only 30,000 for the Ulster Final Replay in '05.  The qualifier effect was alive and well, with Sligo, Fermanagh, Limerick, Derry, Donegal getting good runs.  There were loads of novel pairings - I remember Sligo and Kildare I think attracting a great crowd on a Saturday night around '04.

Half Empty Stadiums
There is rarely a decent atmosphere in a half-full Croke Park.  It looks terrible on TV and exacerbates the notion that we have a poor product.  I cannot understand organisers taking smallish games to big stadiums.  Better to have a small ground filled to capacity, because the atmosphere is all part of the product.

Could not agree more with you, specifically the bolded parts.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 26, 2018, 05:19:40 PM
On the subject of half empty stadiums how hard would it be for HQ to play the Div 3,4 double header league finals in 20,000 capacity stadium?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: OgraAnDun on January 26, 2018, 06:33:16 PM
Croke Park premium and corporate tickets are sold with the commitment that all AIQF onwards are played in CP. Maybe football league finals are the same?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: APM on January 26, 2018, 06:44:57 PM
Croke Park premium and corporate tickets are sold with the commitment that all AIQF onwards are played in CP. Maybe football league finals are the same?

About time it stopped!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on January 26, 2018, 08:14:58 PM
Croke Park premium and corporate tickets are sold with the commitment that all AIQF onwards are played in CP. Maybe football league finals are the same?

Well with the Super 8's there will be a minimum of 7/12 quarterfinal type games outside Croke Park and in smaller provincial sized grounds
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on January 26, 2018, 08:37:52 PM
Croke Park premium and corporate tickets are sold with the commitment that all AIQF onwards are played in CP. Maybe football league finals are the same?

About time it stopped!
Playing big games in Croker?
Selling Premium Ticket packages?
Letting the D3 and D4 crowd play their Finals on Croker?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on January 26, 2018, 10:04:26 PM
With David Clifford starting for Kerry on Sunday I'd guess the attendance in Killarney could be a lot bigger than expected
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: hardstation on January 26, 2018, 10:18:05 PM
With David Clifford starting for Kerry on Sunday I'd guess the attendance in Killarney could be a lot bigger than expected
Is he from a big family?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: OgraAnDun on January 27, 2018, 10:28:07 AM
Croke Park premium and corporate tickets are sold with the commitment that all AIQF onwards are played in CP. Maybe football league finals are the same?

Well with the Super 8's there will be a minimum of 7/12 quarterfinal type games outside Croke Park and in smaller provincial sized grounds

True. I suppose by having minimum 4 S8 games in Croker, they managed to fulfill the obligation to have a minimum of 7 football championship games each year at HQ.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on January 27, 2018, 10:49:25 AM
Where will Kildare and  Meath play their home games if they make the last 8?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: LooseCannon on January 27, 2018, 11:28:11 AM
Where will Kildare and  Meath play their home games if they make the last 8?

O’Connor or O’Moore Park I’d imagine.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: tippabu on January 27, 2018, 12:48:04 PM
Where will Kildare and  Meath play their home games if they make the last 8?

If waterford and ennis are able to host munster championship games the no reason newbridge and pairc tailteann cant host 1/4 finals
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: LooseCannon on January 27, 2018, 01:53:19 PM
Where will Kildare and  Meath play their home games if they make the last 8?

If waterford and ennis are able to host munster championship games the no reason newbridge and pairc tailteann cant host 1/4 finals

I think Waterford is taken out of the question altogether now over a heap of gravel behind one end of the pitch. Supposedly reducing capacity.
I think they’ll concede Home advantage, but will probably get more grant funding as a result.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on January 27, 2018, 02:35:49 PM
No way Newbridge will be allowed hold a big 8 game.
If Kildare get that far the bandwagon will be at least 20,000 strong.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on January 27, 2018, 02:51:44 PM
No way Newbridge will be allowed hold a big 8 game.
If Kildare get that far the bandwagon will be at least 20,000 strong.

The bandwagon is broke well beyond repair at this stage, our fans were outnumbered at every game in last years championship and had the smallest following in the last 12 game in Croke park. Newbridge will do grand for our support, the away team should be made do with an allocation of 2000 or so like in any other sport.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on January 27, 2018, 03:01:04 PM
The GAA isn't just any other sport ;)
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on January 27, 2018, 03:02:41 PM
The GAA isn't just any other sport ;)

Yeah better to play games in a big empty Croke park.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on January 27, 2018, 09:05:08 PM
26000 for the double header in Croke park, poor enough and if I recall correctly 4 or 5 years ago Dublin league games would easily surpass 40000.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on January 28, 2018, 02:18:05 AM
26000 for the double header in Croke park, poor enough and if I recall correctly 4 or 5 years ago Dublin league games would easily surpass 40000.
In fairness it was Kildare and Offaly in January and it's still a decent enough crowd. See what crowd Dublin v Kerry in March gets before making judgements. The Cork doubleheader in Pairc ui Chaoimh attracted 16,189 tonight.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Syferus on January 28, 2018, 02:52:33 AM
26000 for the double header in Croke park, poor enough and if I recall correctly 4 or 5 years ago Dublin league games would easily surpass 40000.
In fairness it was Kildare and Offaly in January and it's still a decent enough crowd. See what crowd Dublin v Kerry in March gets before making judgements. The Cork doubleheader in Pairc ui Chaoimh attracted 16,189 tonight.

You say this like you think Kerry will have any people at all travelling to Croke Park for a fecking league match. Kildare are one of the biggest draws for Croker outside of Dublin themselves. Clear sign of the times.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 28, 2018, 06:45:14 AM
26000 for the double header in Croke park, poor enough and if I recall correctly 4 or 5 years ago Dublin league games would easily surpass 40000.

I thought there would be at least 10k more at this game because Dublin were playing.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on January 28, 2018, 06:54:30 PM
Was there soccer on Sky at the same time?
26,000 is more than most Irish soccer clubs get in a full season.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Feckitt on January 29, 2018, 11:15:17 AM

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Feckitt on January 29, 2018, 11:16:39 AM
The attendances above are the average attendance at every LOI and IFA club.  How would the weekends National Football League compare?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: guy crouchback on January 29, 2018, 11:41:39 AM
another thing is i'm convinced that there is some sort of shenanigans going on with attendance count at games, mayo games anyway and the league in particular.
last year in the league id say that the attendance at each home game was under reported by at least 3000 to 4000
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Feckitt on January 29, 2018, 11:51:27 AM
According to the figures above, the entire Irish League programme on an average Saturday would have a total attendance of 6948. 
The BBC send television cameras to all games, including the ones like Warrenpoint v Carrickfergus which may have less than 200 supporters, and they have a 30 minute highlights programme every Saturday early evening prime time.

I need to know how many would have been at the 9 matches yesterday and Saturday for Ulster teams.

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: tonto1888 on January 29, 2018, 11:56:38 AM
there seemed to be a decent crowd at our - Armagh - game anyway
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dire Ear on January 29, 2018, 12:06:41 PM
According to the figures above, the entire Irish League programme on an average Saturday would have a total attendance of 6948. 
The BBC send television cameras to all games, including the ones like Warrenpoint v Carrickfergus which may have less than 200 supporters, and they have a 30 minute highlights programme every Saturday early evening prime time.

I need to know how many would have been at the 9 matches yesterday and Saturday for Ulster teams.
Clue's in the name-- BBC
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Mayo Club 51 on January 29, 2018, 12:13:54 PM
Did anyone get the attendance from Clones yesterday? Couldn't hear the tannoy
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on January 29, 2018, 12:20:47 PM
another thing is i'm convinced that there is some sort of shenanigans going on with attendance count at games, mayo games anyway and the league in particular.
last year in the league id say that the attendance at each home game was under reported by at least 3000 to 4000
Official figures woukdnt include free U16s .
10,977 in Killarney  and 3,977 in Pearse Stadium.
I'd reckon 4,500 in the Hyde yesterday.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on January 29, 2018, 05:00:41 PM
All of this weeks Hurling attendances.

Cork v Kilkenny Attendance: 16,189
Wexford v Waterford Attendance: 7,467
Clare v Tipperary Attendance: 6,277
Limerick v Laois Attendance 1,450
Galway v Antrim Attendance 3,977
Dublin v Offaly Attendance 26,027
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Avondhu star on January 29, 2018, 05:27:50 PM
All of this weeks Hurling attendances.

Cork v Kilkenny Attendance: 16,189
Wexford v Waterford Attendance: 7,467
Clare v Tipperary Attendance: 6,277
Limerick v Laois Attendance 1,450
Galway v Antrim Attendance 3,977
Dublin v Offaly Attendance 26,027

How many of the 26027 were in Croke Park for the first half of thehurling?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on January 29, 2018, 05:40:31 PM
About the same as in De Páirc for the football.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on February 03, 2018, 09:02:51 PM
Official attendance in Elverys MacHale Park for Kerry Mayo 11,639
Official attendance in Healy Park for Dublin Tyrone 9,465
Official attendance in Thurles for Tipp Waterford 6,363
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on February 04, 2018, 03:23:39 PM
Attendance in Tullamore for Offaly Limerick 4,640
Attendance in Nowlan Park for Kilkenny Clare 6,416
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on February 04, 2018, 08:30:33 PM
The attendances in this weeks National Hurling League
Wexford v Cork 7,300
Laois v Galway 5,387
Tipp v Waterford 6,363
Kilkenny v Clare 6,416
Offaly v Limerick 4,640
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on February 06, 2018, 08:49:08 PM
Tipp v Ros 2,344 official. Over 3k when kids added.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Aaron Boone on February 06, 2018, 09:22:43 PM
Very decent crowds and not even mid-February. These GAA guys have themselves a good product.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Hound on February 07, 2018, 09:00:41 AM
Very decent crowds and not even mid-February. These GAA guys have themselves a good product.
For a long time it's suffered under the mantra of it being "only the league", but this is probably the first year that in the build up there has been lots of coverage of it being actually a really good competition with competitive games at all levels.
Although the marketing of it is still abysmal. Hardly any (mostly none at all) effort put in, in any county, to attract new fans or visitors to league games.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on February 07, 2018, 09:56:57 AM
Does anyone go to D3 or D4 games?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: APM on February 07, 2018, 10:18:32 AM
Does anyone go to D3 or D4 games?

Ye spent six years till 2014 between Division 3 and 4! You'd know plenty about the attendances!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on February 07, 2018, 11:15:22 AM
They were pretty small to say the least especially the day we played Kilkenny.
A lot of lads who get their pictures in the media at Ros games nowadays weren't to be seen in those dark days.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: tonto1888 on February 07, 2018, 11:21:22 AM
Does anyone go to D3 or D4 games?

I didn't catch the official attendance at Armagh Westmeath at the weekend but there was a decent crowd
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: rosnarun on February 07, 2018, 11:24:28 AM
They were pretty small to say the least especially the day we played Kilkenny.
A lot of lads who get their pictures in the media at Ros games nowadays weren't to be seen in those dark days.
Who on earth could you be talking about.
off the subject
any good barbers in Rocommon
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on February 07, 2018, 11:32:18 AM
Seànie in Ballaghaderreen Co. ROSCOMMON 😊
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on February 08, 2018, 11:16:29 AM
Does anyone go to D3 or D4 games?

Not sure if there was an actual figure published, but I'd have estimated the attendance in our opening fixture at home to Sligo as close to 4,000.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Feckitt on February 08, 2018, 03:53:15 PM



There was a good article in The Irish News today from John McEntee who was giving out about the lack of coverage of the National League from the BBC and that they still put the radio coverage on MW where half the people cant get it, and the other half get it on a poor reception.

Above are the average attendances for all Irish soccer clubs.  For the Northern clubs an average of 6948 fans would attend the entire league programme on a Saturday.  Meanwhile in Omagh 9465 attend just one match.  Guess which code gets their own 30 minutes highlights programme every week on prime time telly?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on February 08, 2018, 04:12:36 PM
As I often said before time GAA people in the North stopped paying TV licences until they get Parity of Esteem.
Any chance "Slippery Dodger" could give us football figures as well as the hurling ones?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Eamonnca1 on February 08, 2018, 06:21:41 PM
Where are you getting the figures from, lads? Is it from the tannoy or match reports in the news?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on February 08, 2018, 08:34:37 PM
The only NFL Attendances I can track down
Down v Cork 2,983
Donegal v Galway 5,053
Tipperary v Tipperary 2,344
Dublin Tyrone 9,465
Kerry Mayo 11,639
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 08, 2018, 08:37:21 PM
The only NFL Attendances I can track down
Down v Cork 2,983
Donegal v Galway 5,053
Tipperary v Tipperary 2,344
Dublin Tyrone 9,465
Kerry Mayo 11,639

A v B game  ;)
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Aaron Boone on February 08, 2018, 09:37:02 PM
They were pretty small to say the least especially the day we played Kilkenny.
A lot of lads who get their pictures in the media at Ros games nowadays weren't to be seen in those dark days.
What was the final score from Freshford that day?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on February 08, 2018, 10:01:42 PM
We played them in Kiltoom in 2011.
Won by 25 pts to 1.
Biggest cheer of the day was when KK scored in the 2nd half :-[
We gave them a big batin in Ballyragget in 1999 but can't recall the score.
One thing I recall was the KK lads kept going down injured in the last 10 minutes to keep the score down.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on February 08, 2018, 10:30:16 PM
The only NFL Attendances I can track down
Down v Cork 2,983
Donegal v Galway 5,053
Tipperary v Tipperary 2,344
Dublin Tyrone 9,465
Kerry Mayo 11,639

A v B game  ;)

Tipp v Roscommon! Apologies
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: guy crouchback on February 09, 2018, 01:41:43 PM
i dont know what the craic is in other counties but i'm pretty convinced at this stage that the mayo co board are under reporting the home crowd by between 2000 and 3000 for league matches for the last few years.
there is no way there were less then 12000 people in mc hale park last Saturday.  the stand was effectively full and its capacity is 10,000, even accounting for 5% empty seats ( and there wasn't) that's 9500. there were at least 3000 people on the mc hale road side probably more like 4000 and maybe  1000 behind the goal. 
id say the crowd was minimum 14000 and maybe 15000.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on February 09, 2018, 02:47:53 PM
 Free u 16s not counted I presume??
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 09, 2018, 03:30:11 PM
We played them in Kiltoom in 2011.
Won by 25 pts to 1.
Biggest cheer of the day was when KK scored in the 2nd half :-[
We gave them a big batin in Ballyragget in 1999 but can't recall the score.
One thing I recall was the KK lads kept going down injured in the last 10 minutes to keep the score down.

How many roughly would have gone to that game? I'd say there were more on the KK team bus than KK supporters.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: guy crouchback on February 09, 2018, 03:42:43 PM
Free u 16s not counted I presume??
nope, everyone is supposedly counted going in the turnstiles,they turn the same for kids as adults plus there would be way more u16's then the short fall anyway.
attendance as reported is supposed to be everyone in the ground, kids, paid tickets, season tickets, any complementary tickets.
now i could be wrong i might just be crap at guessing crowd numbers but i'm not the only one saying it.

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on February 10, 2018, 08:03:42 PM
21,469 in Croke Park for Dublin Donegal
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 10, 2018, 08:13:10 PM
21,469 in Croke Park for Dublin Donegal

Dubs getting fed up?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: OgraAnDun on February 10, 2018, 08:39:18 PM
21,469 in Croke Park for Dublin Donegal

I can see why they need Croker for the big crowds.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on February 10, 2018, 08:40:57 PM
Parnell Park only holds 13.5K, so you're right there.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: OgraAnDun on February 10, 2018, 08:43:23 PM
Parnell Park only holds 13.5K, so you're right there.

I’m aware that Parnell isn’t big enough for 20k, but neither is it a big enough crowd to justify opening Croker. I don’t have Eir but I’d say the atmosphere was sh*te compared to a full crowd in Parnell Park as well.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on February 10, 2018, 08:51:15 PM
I'd agree with you about the atmosphere.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Main Street on February 10, 2018, 08:52:12 PM
Parnell Park only holds 13.5K, so you're right there.

I’m aware that Parnell isn’t big enough for 20k, but neither is it a big enough crowd to justify opening Croker. I don’t have Eir but I’d say the atmosphere was sh*te compared to a full crowd in Parnell Park as well.
The atmosphere was fine for the game, people who wanted to be out of the wet could do so and obviously the broadcast would be much better from CP than PP.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on February 10, 2018, 08:53:51 PM
They'll be hoping for 30,000+ for Dublin v Kerry in a few weeks. Croke Park is pretty awful when it's around 20,000. Next year a Friday night game in Parnell against a Tipperary if they get promoted or some team similar... I think it would be a great occasion and the TV would be all over it. I know there'd be issues about players and work which would be justified but its just an idea.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Aaron Boone on February 10, 2018, 09:01:42 PM
21,469 in Croke Park for Dublin Donegal

Dubs getting fed up?

Good crowd, filthy weather in the capital city from 4pm-6pm. No hurling in first match this week, the Ladies bt Cork.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 12, 2018, 06:28:45 PM
9850 at Salthill yesterday.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 12, 2018, 06:44:51 PM
9850 at Salthill yesterday.

Half that at very best in Newbridge, haven't seen any official attendance.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on February 12, 2018, 06:55:12 PM
Didn't hear any official figures for the Hyde - looked like approaching 3,000.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on February 17, 2018, 08:21:53 PM
Attendance in Thurles for Tipp v Wexford 8,358
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on February 17, 2018, 08:31:18 PM
Attendance of 4,287 for the McKenna Cup final With each attendee paying €10 + no wonder they wanted it played
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Jinxy on February 17, 2018, 09:27:13 PM
I heard a load of buzz about Bohemians vs. Shamrock rovers last night and how there was a huge crowd in Dalymount.
Some league of Ireland chap was on the radio this morning, and he said (with massive enthusiasm), "There must have been nearly 4000 there!"
Fair play to them, but I think sometimes we underestimate how well attended our own games are.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on February 17, 2018, 09:29:11 PM
I heard a load of buzz about Bohemians vs. Shamrock rovers last night and how there was a huge crowd in Dalymount.
Some league of Ireland chap was on the radio this morning, and he said (with massive enthusiasm), "There must have been nearly 4000 there!"
Fair play to them, but I think sometimes we underestimate how well attended our own games are.

3,640 were at it but in fairness, it sold out two weeks ago. Could have certainly got 6,000 if they were had the capacity for it. Dalymount is currently restricted to using 2 stands.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on February 17, 2018, 10:27:15 PM
2,604 at Limerick v Dublin tonight in the Gaelic Grounds. That is a very very poor attendance. How many Limerick fans will jump on the bandwagon if they string one or two wins together in the Munster Championship in June? I wonder did anyone travel from Dublin?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on February 17, 2018, 11:40:27 PM
Was there rugby on?
How many at the Club semi final?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 18, 2018, 09:06:20 AM
Was there rugby on?
How many at the Club semi final?

There was a full AIL program so that would have accounted for 297, Munster on TV though so that would have affected it, Kilkenny footballers would have better support traveling than the Dublin Hurlers. 
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: didlyi on February 18, 2018, 11:05:22 AM
2,604 at Limerick v Dublin tonight in the Gaelic Grounds. That is a very very poor attendance. How many Limerick fans will jump on the bandwagon if they string one or two wins together in the Munster Championship in June? I wonder did anyone travel from Dublin?

When Munster are not playing then Limerick are the best supporters in the country.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: twohands!!! on February 24, 2018, 07:55:42 PM
From Mayo GAA on Twitter
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Official attendance tonight in a chilly  Elverys MacHale Park is 15,313.

Also
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It might be cold outside but the crowd are getting into the Havana remix by Camila Cabello. #tunes #mayogaa

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on February 25, 2018, 11:05:29 PM
Any other attendances this weekend?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on February 26, 2018, 12:34:28 AM
Kilkenny v Tipperary Attendance: 10,587
Wexford v Clare Attendance: 7,800
Cork v Waterford Attendance: 10,445

Donegal v Kildare Attendance: 4,262
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on March 11, 2018, 06:12:16 PM
Dublin v Kerry  Attendance 24,026
Tyrone v Donegal Attendance 5,850

Kilkenny v Wexford Attendance 9,793
Galway Doubleheader v Monaghan and Limerick Attendance 9,728
Tipperary Doubleheader v Louth and Cork Attendance 6,733

Does anyone have any more figures?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on March 11, 2018, 09:16:26 PM
Clare v Ros 1,643.
That's some poke of a stand in Cusack Park. Must have been designed for childeens.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: belfastkev on March 18, 2018, 03:09:10 PM
10,013 at McHale Park for Mayo v Tyrone.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on March 18, 2018, 06:10:38 PM
10,050 in Salthill.
I'd estimate around 4k in the Hyde
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on March 26, 2018, 06:19:59 PM
Donegal Mayo 11,250
Wexford Galway 7,500
6,500 at Cavan v Tipp yesterday. Looked like about 200 Tipp fans max.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 26, 2018, 06:22:55 PM
What about the Croke Park double header?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on March 26, 2018, 06:25:43 PM
22,085 at the doubleheader in Croke Park
6,115 for Tyrone V Kerry
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 26, 2018, 10:41:59 PM
How are those Dublin figures holding up compared to previous years?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on March 26, 2018, 10:58:26 PM
How are those Dublin figures holding up compared to previous years?

Remember there was a big crowd in for the Hurling part!  ;D
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on March 26, 2018, 11:04:21 PM
Around 3k in the Hyde yesterday.
Probably 4 from Cork :(
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Unlaoised on March 27, 2018, 09:49:22 AM
Said there was 4800 in Carlow Sunday but that didn't include about 1000 that they let in for nothing when the que was still outside and the game had started....

Man on the gate used common sense!!! ;D
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 27, 2018, 03:17:52 PM
Around 3k in the Hyde yesterday.
Probably 4 from Cork :(
Those 4?


Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Tyrone Dreamer on March 29, 2018, 08:22:52 AM
How are those Dublin figures holding up compared to previous years?

I'd say for the run of the mill games they are probably up. Seem to have gotten over 20,000 for them all, in some of the previous years they'd have been between 15 and 20k. Definitely makes sense to play them there when Parnell Park holds less than half of that. It's just a pity they don't have a 30,000 stadium that they could aim to fill for all the games.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on March 29, 2018, 09:00:52 AM
Around 3k in the Hyde yesterday.
Probably 4 from Cork :(
Those 4?




Funnily enough I saw no sign of them bucks.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 29, 2018, 10:35:58 AM
How are those Dublin figures holding up compared to previous years?

I'd say for the run of the mill games they are probably up. Seem to have gotten over 20,000 for them all, in some of the previous years they'd have been between 15 and 20k. Definitely makes sense to play them there when Parnell Park holds less than half of that. It's just a pity they don't have a 30,000 stadium that they could aim to fill for all the games.

They are down so, the Spring series use to regularly bring in 30+, 40K+ a good few times. Only natural I suppose.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Jinxy on March 29, 2018, 10:48:40 AM
We might let them use Navan when it's finished.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Tyrone Dreamer on March 29, 2018, 11:06:50 AM
How are those Dublin figures holding up compared to previous years?

I'd say for the run of the mill games they are probably up. Seem to have gotten over 20,000 for them all, in some of the previous years they'd have been between 15 and 20k. Definitely makes sense to play them there when Parnell Park holds less than half of that. It's just a pity they don't have a 30,000 stadium that they could aim to fill for all the games.

They are down so, the Spring series use to regularly bring in 30+, 40K+ a good few times. Only natural I suppose.

It always depended on the opponents etc. The first  game as All Ireland champions used to get good crowds when marketed. Other than that the games v Tyrone or Mayo for example always got decent crowds. But plenty of other games ranged from around 17-22k.

The last time Monaghan played Dublin in 2016 there was 17k at it so the crowd was up on the same fixture 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 29, 2018, 11:10:58 AM
Pity there is no database for NFL fixtures, results, teams, scorers, ground, attendance etc.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Gael85 on March 29, 2018, 11:29:01 AM
How are those Dublin figures holding up compared to previous years?

I'd say for the run of the mill games they are probably up. Seem to have gotten over 20,000 for them all, in some of the previous years they'd have been between 15 and 20k. Definitely makes sense to play them there when Parnell Park holds less than half of that. It's just a pity they don't have a 30,000 stadium that they could aim to fill for all the games.

They are down so, the Spring series use to regularly bring in 30+, 40K+ a good few times. Only natural I suppose.

It always depended on the opponents etc. The first  game as All Ireland champions used to get good crowds when marketed. Other than that the games v Tyrone or Mayo for example always got decent crowds. But plenty of other games ranged from around 17-22k.

The last time Monaghan played Dublin in 2016 there was 17k at it so the crowd was up on the same fixture 2 years ago.

There was a full round of club games last sunday morning/afternoon in Dublin which meant a lot of supporters were missing
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on April 01, 2018, 02:37:33 PM
In fairness to Dublin this year they haven't had the marquee matchups in Croke Park with Monaghan and Kildare compared to a Mayo or Tyrone. They were unlucky with the Kerry game too as it was postponed and moved to a Sunday. Today's crowd will tell a lot on the attendances this year but again Galway won't bring out your average Dub like a Kerry or Mayo would. Roscommon and Cavan look to have brought a healthy crowd today which will help the figure.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on April 01, 2018, 02:42:24 PM
12,006 attendance at Semple Stadium last night
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: tippabu on April 01, 2018, 04:50:48 PM
In fairness to Dublin this year they haven't had the marquee matchups in Croke Park with Monaghan and Kildare compared to a Mayo or Tyrone. They were unlucky with the Kerry game too as it was postponed and moved to a Sunday. Today's crowd will tell a lot on the attendances this year but again Galway won't bring out your average Dub like a Kerry or Mayo would. Roscommon and Cavan look to have brought a healthy crowd today which will help the figure.

They are all in Lansdowne watching "our national game", "the peoples game";)
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on April 01, 2018, 09:02:23 PM
Todays attendance in @CrokePark was 36,574 #AllianzLeague


Nice little earner for the GAA. Their Golden Goose keeps laying the Golden eggs!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on April 01, 2018, 10:12:04 PM
Todays attendance in @CrokePark was 36,574 #AllianzLeague


Nice little earner for the GAA. Their Golden Goose keeps laying the Golden eggs!

Modest enough crowd for a double bill with Dublin involved.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: full moon on April 01, 2018, 10:50:06 PM
Todays attendance in @CrokePark was 36,574 #AllianzLeague


Nice little earner for the GAA. Their Golden Goose keeps laying the Golden eggs!

Modest enough crowd for a double bill with Dublin involved.
Down over 17,000 on last year. They can't keep banking on Dublin and neglecting elsewhere and almost spitting on club football. Attendances are dropping every year and club football attendances are leaving many clubs hanging by a thread. The change in the past 10 years is drastic and the new bagman Director Ryan won't address it.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on April 02, 2018, 01:06:11 AM
Nearly 17,000 in Wexford Park.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: vallankumous on April 02, 2018, 08:31:25 AM
Todays attendance in @CrokePark was 36,574 #AllianzLeague


Nice little earner for the GAA. Their Golden Goose keeps laying the Golden eggs!

Modest enough crowd for a double bill with Dublin involved.

Many in Dublin can't afford the rent nowadays never mind trips to Croke Park every weekend. North inner City Dublin is becoming impossible for Dubs to live in.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: didlyi on April 02, 2018, 10:17:18 AM
All due respects to Galway but unles its a Dublin Kerry final there are alot of dubs supporters that coudnt be bothered going. Its be a worrying trend, the number of supporters coming to support the Dubs is decreasing year on year.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on April 02, 2018, 10:22:01 AM
Todays attendance in @CrokePark was 36,574 #AllianzLeague


Nice little earner for the GAA. Their Golden Goose keeps laying the Golden eggs!

Modest enough crowd for a double bill with Dublin involved.
Down over 17,000 on last year. They can't keep banking on Dublin and neglecting elsewhere and almost spitting on club football. Attendances are dropping every year and club football attendances are leaving many clubs hanging by a thread. The change in the past 10 years is drastic and the new bagman Director Ryan won't address it.
So what's your solution??
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Tyrone Dreamer on April 02, 2018, 11:56:47 AM
Todays attendance in @CrokePark was 36,574 #AllianzLeague


Nice little earner for the GAA. Their Golden Goose keeps laying the Golden eggs!

Modest enough crowd for a double bill with Dublin involved.
Down over 17,000 on last year. They can't keep banking on Dublin and neglecting elsewhere and almost spitting on club football. Attendances are dropping every year and club football attendances are leaving many clubs hanging by a thread. The change in the past 10 years is drastic and the new bagman Director Ryan won't address it.

It was a bigger crowd than the 2013 and 2015 league finals involving Dublin and around the same as 2014. Last year’s was so high due to it being kerry and 2016 was the one off Easter rising celebrations. Yesterday’s attendance would have been one of the higher attendances in the last 30 years. It was a decent crowd given it was Easter Sunday and one of Leinster biggest games of the year on across the city.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: manfromdelmonte on April 02, 2018, 07:35:39 PM
the poor weather doesn't help
it was baltic yesterday

€30 was a bit steep to be honest
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on April 02, 2018, 10:00:14 PM
the poor weather doesn't help
it was baltic yesterday

€30 was a bit steep to be honest

Yes, a tad expensive! A decent amount of the Dubs (up to 7,500) did not have to pay in as their Season tickets covered the cost! The same applied for a lot of neutrals. I suppose the GAA had to up the anti on the day trippers to pay a lot of the costs. Then again seeing Dublin were playing in the final, Most of the Corporate Boxes would have been used and they are a Big earner!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on April 02, 2018, 11:03:11 PM
Easter Sunday is a family day. There were Easter parades in Ros Town and Strokestown, our game didn't appeal to the "soft"support as it wasn't of much importance,  €30 didn't help and I presume most of the Corporate types were at Rogby.
The train I got from Maynooth was filled with rugbyites.
Mind you they looked like normal people ;D
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Syferus on April 03, 2018, 12:11:47 AM
Easter Sunday is a family day. There were Easter parades in Ros Town and Strokestown, our game didn't appeal to the "soft"support as it wasn't of much importance,  €30 didn't help and I presume most of the Corporate types were at Rogby.
The train I got from Maynooth was filled with rugbyites.
Mind you they looked like normal people ;D

No one gives a flute about Easter parades if they're under 75.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on April 03, 2018, 12:40:22 AM
Easter Sunday is a family day. There were Easter parades in Ros Town and Strokestown, our game didn't appeal to the "soft"support as it wasn't of much importance,  €30 didn't help and I presume most of the Corporate types were at Rogby.
The train I got from Maynooth was filled with rugbyites.
Mind you they looked like normal people ;D

No one gives a flute about Easter parades if they're under 75.

No one will soon will give a flute about intercounty football when they're under 75! :P
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on April 03, 2018, 08:00:14 AM
Syferflute  makes a flute of himself again.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: sid waddell on April 03, 2018, 11:25:43 AM
All due respects to Galway but unles its a Dublin Kerry final there are alot of dubs supporters that coudnt be bothered going. Its be a worrying trend, the number of supporters coming to support the Dubs is decreasing year on year.
As a Dub, I got rounded on by other Dubs on this forum for making this point last year.

It seems a hell of a lot of Dubs in the real world actually agree with me.

Generally there is a positive relationship between success and support. See Mayo, Donegal, Armagh, Tyrone, Kildare and many others. But when it becomes obvious that a team is dominating to the point that that there is no point going to most matches because the result is a foregone conclusion, then it becomes a negative relationship.

Dublin passed that point in Leinster many years ago. Their overall support patterns have become reminiscent of Kerry's and Kilkenny's at their most dominant.





Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: ONeill on April 03, 2018, 01:10:21 PM
30 euros??? You're kidding me!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: rosnarun on April 03, 2018, 03:06:39 PM
Todays attendance in @CrokePark was 36,574 #AllianzLeague


Nice little earner for the GAA. Their Golden Goose keeps laying the Golden eggs!

Modest enough crowd for a double bill with Dublin involved.
Down over 17,000 on last year. They can't keep banking on Dublin and neglecting elsewhere and almost spitting on club football. Attendances are dropping every year and club football attendances are leaving many clubs hanging by a thread. The change in the past 10 years is drastic and the new bagman Director Ryan won't address it.

It was a bigger crowd than the 2013 and 2015 league finals involving Dublin and around the same as 2014. Last year’s was so high due to it being kerry and 2016 was the one off Easter rising celebrations. Yesterday’s attendance would have been one of the higher attendances in the last 30 years. It was a decent crowd given it was Easter Sunday and one of Leinster biggest games of the year on across the city.
36k it would have left about 10K outside the gate at thomond park
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: vallankumous on April 04, 2018, 08:13:07 AM
All due respects to Galway but unles its a Dublin Kerry final there are alot of dubs supporters that coudnt be bothered going. Its be a worrying trend, the number of supporters coming to support the Dubs is decreasing year on year.

That's nonsense
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: tippabu on April 04, 2018, 09:56:11 AM
Wonder what the breakdown of supporters was, there was 6000 or so in Cavan when they player tipp. Would there have been 10/15k from the other 3 counties total?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on April 04, 2018, 10:55:48 AM
I'd say Cavan/Ros 6k between us.
2 parents and 2 children travelling from say Castlerea would be forking out at least  €150 for the day.
Too much for a match that didn't really matter and was on TV anyway and no doubt more important things to spend €150 on.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Unlaoised on April 04, 2018, 01:10:30 PM
Was 9,000 in Croker on Saturday I'd 5000 of these were from carlow about 2000 from Laois and I'd say Fermanagh and Armagh had about 1000 each infact id say Armagh only had about 6/700 there!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: tippabu on April 08, 2018, 11:01:36 AM
There'll probably be over 10k less at the hurling final today that the football final but it will be a full stadium and brilliant atmosphere
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: manfromdelmonte on April 08, 2018, 03:47:26 PM
There'll probably be over 10k less at the hurling final today that the football final but it will be a full stadium and brilliant atmosphere
Yeah, but the Dubs have to play in Croker. Etc etc
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: longballin on April 08, 2018, 04:30:58 PM
There'll probably be over 10k less at the hurling final today that the football final but it will be a full stadium and brilliant atmosphere
Yeah, but the Dubs have to play in Croker. Etc etc

Most counties want to play in Croker and would have been there whoever was in the final, but don't let the truth get in the way of the anti-Dub begrudgery
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: full moon on April 08, 2018, 07:23:23 PM
Watching the atmosphere at the hurling today and the pathetic one for the football finals says it all.

If you can't get any crowd in Croker get it out of there
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: tippabu on April 09, 2018, 09:14:38 AM
There'll probably be over 10k less at the hurling final today that the football final but it will be a full stadium and brilliant atmosphere
Yeah, but the Dubs have to play in Croker. Etc etc

Most counties want to play in Croker and would have been there whoever was in the final, but don't let the truth get in the way of the anti-Dub begrudgery

Where's the anti Dublin thing in my comment, it's more the fact that's there's no appropriately sized decent stadium in the Midlands or east that would be ideal for this game.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on April 09, 2018, 09:39:25 AM
17,600 at the Hurley Final.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on April 09, 2018, 09:52:03 AM
17,600 at the Hurley Final.

How come the participants can toss for the venue for this, but such a thing is not possible for football finals?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Jinxy on April 09, 2018, 09:59:10 AM
How come the hurlers don't have a nervous breakdown at the thoughts of playing a final anywhere other than Croke Park.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: tippabu on April 09, 2018, 10:07:39 AM
17,600 at the Hurley Final.

How come the participants can toss for the venue for this, but such a thing is not possible for football finals?

All depends who's in it, a lot of teams have home away arrangements, others like if it was Galway Kilkenny would be neutral and thurles would have been used. It helps that hurling is almost exclusively in the south so teams are a lot happier not going up to Dublin for the final.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on April 09, 2018, 10:19:49 AM
How come the hurlers don't have a nervous breakdown at the thoughts of playing a final anywhere other than Croke Park.


Same idea, Kilkenny or Tipp play at home, Dublin play at home.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: AZOffaly on April 09, 2018, 02:25:37 PM
17,600 at the Hurley Final.

How come the participants can toss for the venue for this, but such a thing is not possible for football finals?

They don't toss. Tipp and Kilkenny have a home and away agreement for National League finals.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on April 10, 2018, 10:08:05 AM
How come the hurlers don't have a nervous breakdown at the thoughts of playing a final anywhere other than Croke Park.

Entitlement?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: rosnarun on April 17, 2018, 12:52:55 PM
I was watching the Dublin club championship on TG4 last night . a very attractive looking double header with ballyboden ballymun, st bridgets and kilmacud   all playing and only a handful of people there . much less than a similar attraction in Mayo or most other counties I'd bet
there was a high level of football though the results were uneven and big names on all teams.
surely more could be done to promote this
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Jinxy on April 17, 2018, 01:17:08 PM
I'd say Dublin would be a good way down the list nationwide in terms of attendances at club games alright.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on April 17, 2018, 01:17:41 PM
Vast majority of Jackeens not interested in Gaelic games other than the County Senior Bandwagon.
Their U21 or Minor teams seldom get more than 500 supporting them.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Beffs on April 17, 2018, 03:52:14 PM
I was watching the Dublin club championship on TG4 last night . a very attractive looking double header with ballyboden ballymun, st bridgets and kilmacud   all playing and only a handful of people there . much less than a similar attraction in Mayo or most other counties I'd bet
there was a high level of football though the results were uneven and big names on all teams.
surely more could be done to promote this

Dragging Crokes & Boden over to Parnell Park for the game, would have a knock on effect on attendance. As would the games not being knock out anymore.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Owenmoresider on April 17, 2018, 05:46:16 PM
Vast majority of Jackeens not interested in Gaelic games other than the County Senior Bandwagon.
Their U21 or Minor teams seldom get more than 500 supporting them.
Nor the senior hurlers either, was at a Leinster QF v Wexford in Croke Park 2/3 years back and there was only around 12k there, and that was with both Wexford teams and Kildare playing also.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: rosnarun on April 18, 2018, 05:40:25 PM
I was watching the Dublin club championship on TG4 last night . a very attractive looking double header with ballyboden ballymun, st bridgets and kilmacud   all playing and only a handful of people there . much less than a similar attraction in Mayo or most other counties I'd bet
there was a high level of football though the results were uneven and big names on all teams.
surely more could be done to promote this

Dragging Crokes & Boden over to Parnell Park for the game, would have a knock on effect on attendance. As would the games not being knock out anymore.
killmacud  to donnycarney  is is 13,4 K most country clubs would have people travelling further to training . we used to go 20k without the power of Dublin bus as well
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Jinxy on April 19, 2018, 01:15:35 PM
The last time any Dublin fan travelled further than that for a game was Thurles in 2001.
Half of them couldn't find their way back and ended up settling in Portlaoise.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Aaron Boone on April 19, 2018, 01:47:01 PM
I was watching the Dublin club championship on TG4 last night . a very attractive looking double header with ballyboden ballymun, st bridgets and kilmacud   all playing and only a handful of people there . much less than a similar attraction in Mayo or most other counties I'd bet
there was a high level of football though the results were uneven and big names on all teams.
surely more could be done to promote this

Dragging Crokes & Boden over to Parnell Park for the game, would have a knock on effect on attendance. As would the games not being knock out anymore.
killmacud  to donnycarney  is is 13,4 K most country clubs would have people travelling further to training . we used to go 20k without the power of Dublin bus as well

Probably 500 sets of traffic lights in that city trip.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Owenmoresider on April 19, 2018, 02:12:59 PM
The last time any Dublin fan travelled further than that for a game was Thurles in 2001.
Half of them couldn't find their way back and ended up settling in Portlaoise.
For public order offences I presume.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Owenmoresider on April 19, 2018, 02:15:23 PM
I was watching the Dublin club championship on TG4 last night . a very attractive looking double header with ballyboden ballymun, st bridgets and kilmacud   all playing and only a handful of people there . much less than a similar attraction in Mayo or most other counties I'd bet
there was a high level of football though the results were uneven and big names on all teams.
surely more could be done to promote this

Dragging Crokes & Boden over to Parnell Park for the game, would have a knock on effect on attendance. As would the games not being knock out anymore.
killmacud  to donnycarney  is is 13,4 K most country clubs would have people travelling further to training . we used to go 20k without the power of Dublin bus as well

Probably 500 sets of traffic lights in that city trip.
It's a short journey in distance but factor in the lights, traffic, reduced speed etc. and it is a long enough spin at any time. Unfortunately no decent venue on the southside bar O'Toole Park so their options are limited.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: rosnarun on April 19, 2018, 04:14:02 PM
I was watching the Dublin club championship on TG4 last night . a very attractive looking double header with ballyboden ballymun, st bridgets and kilmacud   all playing and only a handful of people there . much less than a similar attraction in Mayo or most other counties I'd bet
there was a high level of football though the results were uneven and big names on all teams.
surely more could be done to promote this

Dragging Crokes & Boden over to Parnell Park for the game, would have a knock on effect on attendance. As would the games not being knock out anymore.
killmacud  to donnycarney  is is 13,4 K most country clubs would have people travelling further to training . we used to go 20k without the power of Dublin bus as well

Probably 500 sets of traffic lights in that city trip.
It's a short journey in distance but factor in the lights, traffic, reduced speed etc. and it is a long enough spin at any time. Unfortunately no decent venue on the southside bar O'Toole Park so their options are limited.

is that why Dublin refuse to play their home games there out in the sticks. it would suit country clubs like St Vincents though
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on May 07, 2018, 07:20:28 PM
Attendance 3135 in Ennis for Limerick v Clare Munster U21 hurling championship
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on May 14, 2018, 03:28:12 AM
Leinster Hurling Championship
Offaly v Galway 8,330
Dublin V Kilkenny Unknown

Connacht Football Championship
Mayo v Galway 29,449

Ulster Football Championship
Donegal v Cavan 9,612

Does anybody have any attendance figures from the 3 Leinster Football Games this weekend?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on May 14, 2018, 07:51:00 AM
Ulster Football Championship
Donegal v Cavan 9,612

That is quite a disappointing figure for that match, I'd have thought. I'd have been estimating an official figure closer to 15,000.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on May 15, 2018, 03:03:11 PM
Ulster Football Championship
Donegal v Cavan 9,612

This was a disappointing attendance for a game that was reasonably competitive on paper. Donegal had picked up a few supporters in better times who now seem to be gone and Cavan people used support their team come what may.

The stands were obviously empty on TV.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on May 18, 2018, 02:40:01 PM
I presume a sell out in Omagh for Tyrone v Monaghan.
Wexford v Dublin should be close to 20,000.
Kilkenny Offaly 15,000.
And I’d say the two Munster Hurling Championship games won’t be far off 30,000
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Mayo Club 51 on May 18, 2018, 03:00:48 PM
29,449 at Mayo v Galway last Sunday
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 18, 2018, 03:37:27 PM

Ulster Football Championship
Donegal v Cavan 9,612

Interesting was much bigger crowd at the round 7 NFL game Donegal v Mayo but of course ticket prices was much cheaper for that game.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on May 18, 2018, 04:05:42 PM
I've asked before ....does anybody have a figure for the 3 Leinster Prelims?
Looked shocking small on TV anyway -maybe 2k  in Wexford? and 3k in Portlaoise?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 18, 2018, 04:10:07 PM
I've asked before ....does anybody have a figure for the 3 Leinster Prelims?
Looked shocking small on TV anyway -maybe 2k  in Wexford? and 3k in Portlaoise?

4,350 in Portloaise for the double header.
2,600 in Wexford.

6k for 3 games, cause and effect of financial doping.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Maroon Manc on May 18, 2018, 04:28:16 PM
I've asked before ....does anybody have a figure for the 3 Leinster Prelims?
Looked shocking small on TV anyway -maybe 2k  in Wexford? and 3k in Portlaoise?

4,350 in Portloaise for the double header.
2,600 in Wexford.

6k for 3 games, cause and effect of financial doping.

Would be interesting to see a table of total attendances for the Leinster championship for the last 15 years and see what affect Dublin's dominance has on it, possibly Ewan's next article!

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on May 19, 2018, 07:46:36 PM
8,421 in Enniskillen
1,658 in Semple. I'd say it's a lonesome spot tonight.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on May 19, 2018, 07:54:04 PM
Poor crowd in Enniskillen given that Armagh would have 4000-5000 against Ulster opposition in the league.

But the football is equally poor.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 19, 2018, 07:59:53 PM
Poor crowd in Enniskillen given that Armagh would have 4000-5000 against Ulster opposition in the league.

But the football is equally poor.
Price of league tickets much cheaper and the price of championship tickets turns plenty away.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on May 19, 2018, 08:05:40 PM
Saturday evenings hardly helping?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Syferus on May 19, 2018, 08:27:30 PM
Saturday evenings hardly helping?

Sure all the good gaelic people will be at mass.

You’d swear Saturday wasn’t the weekend.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on May 19, 2018, 08:33:40 PM
Can you ever stop proving yourself to be the village eejit for once?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: twohands!!! on May 19, 2018, 08:37:43 PM
2304 at Limerick Clare
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Jinxy on May 19, 2018, 08:38:16 PM
Poor crowd in Enniskillen given that Armagh would have 4000-5000 against Ulster opposition in the league.

But the football is equally poor.
Price of league tickets much cheaper and the price of championship tickets turns plenty away.

Don't forget the fact that the league is also a much better competition.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 19, 2018, 08:39:56 PM
Poor crowd in Enniskillen given that Armagh would have 4000-5000 against Ulster opposition in the league.

But the football is equally poor.
Is it 50/50 in Enniskillen or more Fermanagh ones?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: OgraAnDun on May 20, 2018, 04:54:19 PM
15,029 at Healy Park
24,490 at Pairc Ui Chaoimh.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Horse Box on May 20, 2018, 05:23:50 PM
8,421 in Enniskillen
1,658 in Semple. I'd say it's a lonesome spot tonight.

Waterford didn`t travel plus the Black and Tan Soccer ball Cup Final on at the same time . Tipp Hurley out today also so all in all I`m happy enough with the support at the Tipp game !
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: AZOffaly on May 20, 2018, 05:46:45 PM
15,029 at Healy Park
24,490 at Pairc Ui Chaoimh.
20,400 and something in the Gaelic Grounds.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on May 20, 2018, 07:00:15 PM
10,028 in Wexford Park.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 20, 2018, 09:04:25 PM
Healthy enough attendances in the hurling and Tyrone Monaghan games.
I'd be surprised if the double header in Tullamore between Kildare vs Carlow and Laois vs Westmeath will break the 6000 mark in comparison.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: twohands!!! on May 20, 2018, 09:11:33 PM
Healthy enough attendances in the hurling and Tyrone Monaghan games.
I'd be surprised if the double header in Tullamore between Kildare vs Carlow and Laois vs Westmeath will break the 6000 mark in comparison.

Can't really compare with the hurling given the differences in structure.

What have the attendances for the McDonagh cup games so far in hurling been like? (and that's the 11th to 16th ranked hurling counties)
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 20, 2018, 09:17:33 PM
Healthy enough attendances in the hurling and Tyrone Monaghan games.
I'd be surprised if the double header in Tullamore between Kildare vs Carlow and Laois vs Westmeath will break the 6000 mark in comparison.

Can't really compare with the hurling given the differences in structure.

What have the attendances for the McDonagh cup games so far in hurling been like? (and that's the 11th to 16th ranked hurling counties)

How many of those counties would be hurling first counties? Antrim perhaps.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on May 20, 2018, 09:20:21 PM
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I'd be surprised if the double header in Tullamore between Kildare vs Carlow and Laois vs Westmeath will break the 6000 mark
Good jaysus! !! Over half a million people live in those 4 Counties!!!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 20, 2018, 09:45:49 PM
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I'd be surprised if the double header in Tullamore between Kildare vs Carlow and Laois vs Westmeath will break the 6000 mark
Good jaysus! !! Over half a million people live in those 4 Counties!!!

Welcome to the future.

There is very little interest in the county game in Kildare. The Seanie Johnson debacle was quite dividing and the the financial doping of Dublin is very obvious the closer you are & the media's negative narrative around Leinster football is self-fulfilling.

On the plus side I was coaching u7 boys at a 3 club blitz Sat and there was over a 100 pure u7s i.e no u6s. It's just a pity the GAA have killed their dreams before they even knew they had them .



Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on May 20, 2018, 09:53:17 PM
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I'd be surprised if the double header in Tullamore between Kildare vs Carlow and Laois vs Westmeath will break the 6000 mark
Good jaysus! !! Over half a million people live in those 4 Counties!!!

Welcome to the future.

There is very little interest in the county game in Kildare. The Seanie Johnson debacle was quite dividing and the the financial doping of Dublin is very obvious the closer you are & the media's negative narrative around Leinster football is self-fulfilling.

On the plus side I was coaching u7 boys at a 3 club blitz Sat and there was over a 100 pure u7s i.e no u6s. It's just a pity the GAA have killed their dreams before they even knew they had them .

That's the important thing - Youngsters playing! Sure you look at most counties and the intercounty appeal is low!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: northsideboy on May 20, 2018, 09:59:16 PM
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I'd be surprised if the double header in Tullamore between Kildare vs Carlow and Laois vs Westmeath will break the 6000 mark
Good jaysus! !! Over half a million people live in those 4 Counties!!!

Welcome to the future.

There is very little interest in the county game in Kildare. The Seanie Johnson debacle was quite dividing and the the financial doping of Dublin is very obvious the closer you are & the media's negative narrative around Leinster football is self-fulfilling.

On the plus side I was coaching u7 boys at a 3 club blitz Sat and there was over a 100 pure u7s i.e no u6s. It's just a pity the GAA have killed their dreams before they even knew they had them .

Meh, you lost me at the tiresome financial doping crap. Kildare (and Meath too) given their proud football heritage and population should be doing so much better than they are currently doing at senior level. I've seen enough talented footballers from Kildare at underage level in recent years to see that your own structures are not producing and that is not Dublin's fault. For example how many times larger than Monaghan is Kildare's current population and look at Monaghan's recent league and championship record. Get your own house in order before you pollute discussions here with snide, bitter comments from the mind of the Brazilian lemon.   
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 20, 2018, 10:01:32 PM
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I'd be surprised if the double header in Tullamore between Kildare vs Carlow and Laois vs Westmeath will break the 6000 mark
Good jaysus! !! Over half a million people live in those 4 Counties!!!

Welcome to the future.

There is very little interest in the county game in Kildare. The Seanie Johnson debacle was quite dividing and the the financial doping of Dublin is very obvious the closer you are & the media's negative narrative around Leinster football is self-fulfilling.

On the plus side I was coaching u7 boys at a 3 club blitz Sat and there was over a 100 pure u7s i.e no u6s. It's just a pity the GAA have killed their dreams before they even knew they had them .

That's the important thing - Youngsters playing! Sure you look at most counties and the intercounty appeal is low!

It's awful to see Kildare support dwindling though. They always had a good fan base, even when they weren't winning.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on May 20, 2018, 10:18:00 PM
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I'd be surprised if the double header in Tullamore between Kildare vs Carlow and Laois vs Westmeath will break the 6000 mark
Good jaysus! !! Over half a million people live in those 4 Counties!!!

Welcome to the future.

There is very little interest in the county game in Kildare. The Seanie Johnson debacle was quite dividing and the the financial doping of Dublin is very obvious the closer you are & the media's negative narrative around Leinster football is self-fulfilling.

On the plus side I was coaching u7 boys at a 3 club blitz Sat and there was over a 100 pure u7s i.e no u6s. It's just a pity the GAA have killed their dreams before they even knew they had them .

That's the important thing - Youngsters playing! Sure you look at most counties and the intercounty appeal is low!

It's awful to see Kildare support dwindling though. They always had a good fan base, even when they weren't winning.

These things happen with lack of success, or loss of hope. A problem that is only around the corner with Mayo football. Gaelic Football is dying as a spectacle.  Many people I know only watch the last ten minutes of games that are on the TV, where there is a lot of tension in a low scoring blanket defence game. RTE look to have abandoned covering games.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Jinxy on May 20, 2018, 10:33:21 PM
RTE have made a strategic decision to cover more hurling games at the expense of football.
I don't really blame them.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 20, 2018, 10:41:09 PM
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I'd be surprised if the double header in Tullamore between Kildare vs Carlow and Laois vs Westmeath will break the 6000 mark
Good jaysus! !! Over half a million people live in those 4 Counties!!!

Welcome to the future.

There is very little interest in the county game in Kildare. The Seanie Johnson debacle was quite dividing and the the financial doping of Dublin is very obvious the closer you are & the media's negative narrative around Leinster football is self-fulfilling.

On the plus side I was coaching u7 boys at a 3 club blitz Sat and there was over a 100 pure u7s i.e no u6s. It's just a pity the GAA have killed their dreams before they even knew they had them .

Meh, you lost me at the tiresome financial doping crap. Kildare (and Meath too) given their proud football heritage and population should be doing so much better than they are currently doing at senior level. I've seen enough talented footballers from Kildare at underage level in recent years to see that your own structures are not producing and that is not Dublin's fault. For example how many times larger than Monaghan is Kildare's current population and look at Monaghan's recent league and championship record. Get your own house in order before you pollute discussions here with snide, bitter comments from the mind of the Brazilian lemon.


Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: trileacman on May 20, 2018, 11:16:38 PM
It’s become a strange world too though. There was this **** at the game today that every time Monaghan or Tyrone would pass laterally or backwards or slowed down the play, he would loudly proclaim “ah nah not this again, I’m sick of this type of football, I don’t want to see this, I thought I’d seen the end of this last year, wasn’t I naive”  etc etc. Several of is included the vicinity from monanghan and Tyrone opined to each other that he was entitled to f**k off and leave us to watch the match in peace.

It was truly bizarre, to the point I wondered had he come to the match and paid in just for the opportunity to publicly decry the state of football and affirm to the masses his disdain for the current tactics in the game. It was like his Twitter account was closed and he had to shout his worthless opinions out on the terraces to fill the void.

I hate the Sunday game bullshit so I rarely watch it. I dislike Joe brolly so I usually make no concerted effort to read his column. I dislike rugby league and Katie Hopkins and Ed Sheerin so I avoid any involvement with those things. But there’s a whole world of people out there, mostly on social media, who take it as a personal crusade to find reasons to be offended on a daily basis.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 21, 2018, 09:20:04 AM
It’s become a strange world too though. There was this **** at the game today that every time Monaghan or Tyrone would pass laterally or backwards or slowed down the play, he would loudly proclaim “ah nah not this again, I’m sick of this type of football, I don’t want to see this, I thought I’d seen the end of this last year, wasn’t I naive”  etc etc. Several of is included the vicinity from monanghan and Tyrone opined to each other that he was entitled to f**k off and leave us to watch the match in peace.

It was truly bizarre, to the point I wondered had he come to the match and paid in just for the opportunity to publicly decry the state of football and affirm to the masses his disdain for the current tactics in the game. It was like his Twitter account was closed and he had to shout his worthless opinions out on the terraces to fill the void.

I hate the Sunday game bullshit so I rarely watch it. I dislike Joe brolly so I usually make no concerted effort to read his column. I dislike rugby league and Katie Hopkins and Ed Sheerin so I avoid any involvement with those things. But there’s a whole world of people out there, mostly on social media, who take it as a personal crusade to find reasons to be offended on a daily basis.

Sadly he wasnt on his own in Omagh.
I honestly think some people prefer it when its a poor game, just so they can give out about it. Yesterday was a very good game IMO , yet i still heard loads of complaining about the 'style' of football.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: AZOffaly on May 21, 2018, 09:25:11 AM
To be fair, it is an acquired taste. The sight of 9 or 10 lads facing each other around the 65 metre line is a bit depressing looking, especially when they recycle possession by going backwards, even to the goalkeeper a good bit of the time. There's not much cut and thrust to it as they probe, trying to set up the launch point for the man coming at speed.

Still, it's not rubbish, it's just different. It's rubbish when it's done badly, but it's hard to complain about it when you have a scoreline like yesterday, there was obviously a lot of decent attacking going on. It's just a bit 'slow-slow-quick-quick-slow' for some people.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on May 27, 2018, 12:37:57 PM
8,265 in Carrick.
3,339 in Thurles (football).
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 27, 2018, 08:20:47 PM
Healthy enough attendance in Tullamore today, I'm not sure what it was officially but it looked like around 5 or 6 thousand. 50/50 but Carlow will travel in bigger numbers the next day.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on May 27, 2018, 09:38:33 PM
5,172 Carlow v Kildare
5,591 Longford v Meath.
Ten years ago you'd have had 15k at each of them.
Over 500k pop in the 4 Counties.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 27, 2018, 09:41:39 PM
5,172 Carlow v Kildare
5,591 Longford v Meath.
Ten years ago you'd have had 15k at each of them.
Over 500k pop in the 4 Counties.

Rugby country now
https://www.kildarenow.com/sport/leinster-rugby-run-exciting-summer-camp-north-kildare-summer/227117

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 27, 2018, 09:51:23 PM
A little over 5,000 for a championship game is not what i would describe as a healthy enough attendance.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on May 27, 2018, 09:53:20 PM
I was expecting less from Kildare to be honest, it will be less for the qualifier no doubt.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on May 27, 2018, 11:18:47 PM
The three home games for Dublin in the Super 8 will help skew the attendance figures at the end of the year!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Lar Naparka on May 28, 2018, 01:33:33 AM
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I'd be surprised if the double header in Tullamore between Kildare vs Carlow and Laois vs Westmeath will break the 6000 mark
Good jaysus! !! Over half a million people live in those 4 Counties!!!

Welcome to the future.

There is very little interest in the county game in Kildare. The Seanie Johnson debacle was quite dividing and the the financial doping of Dublin is very obvious the closer you are & the media's negative narrative around Leinster football is self-fulfilling.

On the plus side I was coaching u7 boys at a 3 club blitz Sat and there was over a 100 pure u7s i.e no u6s. It's just a pity the GAA have killed their dreams before they even knew they had them .

That's the important thing - Youngsters playing! Sure you look at most counties and the intercounty appeal is low!

It's awful to see Kildare support dwindling though. They always had a good fan base, even when they weren't winning.

These things happen with lack of success, or loss of hope. A problem that is only around the corner with Mayo football. Gaelic Football is dying as a spectacle.  Many people I know only watch the last ten minutes of games that are on the TV, where there is a lot of tension in a low scoring blanket defence game. RTE look to have abandoned covering games.
It’s all about money, or rather the lack of it.
HQ is afraid that the fee they get from RTE when a game is televised won’t make up for the loss of revenue from ticket sales. Crap football and exorbitant ticket prices mean that many people are put off going to a game and watch it on TV instead.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: larryin89 on May 28, 2018, 06:12:46 AM
There is a trend starting if you take the Mayo v galway game out of it, football attendances are on a downward spiral . Worse still Dublin will probably win this year at a canter which doesn't bode well for attendances next year either . There used to be an aul high stool yap that the GAA needs Dublin to be winning all Irelands,  it's swung the other way me thinks.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on May 28, 2018, 08:29:22 AM
There is a trend starting if you take the Mayo v galway game out of it, football attendances are on a downward spiral . Worse still Dublin will probably win this year at a canter which doesn't bode well for attendances next year either . There used to be an aul high stool yap that the GAA needs Dublin to be winning all Irelands,  it's swung the other way me thinks.

Wouldn't matter who won if you charge 30 quid in and the football is putrid.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: tippabu on May 28, 2018, 10:27:50 AM
What was in portlaoise? 12k?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Manning18 on May 28, 2018, 11:02:32 AM
I'd strongly suggest these attendance figures aren't really accurate. They're saying 18k for Galway KK yest. I have never seen Pearse Stadium more full, including plenty of Galway Mayo games with 20k attendances. I'd say the true figure yesterday was closer to 25k. The Tyrone Monaghan attendance looked low also. Wasn't there a few Mayo people laughing during the league at a 10k or so attendance being given when the entire 10k stand alone was full. Something being kept back I'd say
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: AZOffaly on May 28, 2018, 11:03:16 AM
An age old practice in the GAA :) Whenever they announce a gate, I automatically add 20%. I remember a couple of games in Thurles where the lad on the gate basically had his foot on the clutch the whole time, just firing people in. The place was packed, lads moving from the new stand to the old stand, sitting on the field and all. Attendance was announced at 40k, both times :)
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 28, 2018, 11:42:31 AM
I'd strongly suggest these attendance figures aren't really accurate. They're saying 18k for Galway KK yest. I have never seen Pearse Stadium more full, including plenty of Galway Mayo games with 20k attendances. I'd say the true figure yesterday was closer to 25k. The Tyrone Monaghan attendance looked low also. Wasn't there a few Mayo people laughing during the league at a 10k or so attendance being given when the entire 10k stand alone was full. Something being kept back I'd say
15 euro the ticket prices for Galway v KK in hurling yesterday. 25 euro it will be for Sligo v Galway in football next Sunday in Salthill where is the sense in those ticket prices?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: straightred on May 28, 2018, 01:15:20 PM
I'd strongly suggest these attendance figures aren't really accurate. They're saying 18k for Galway KK yest. I have never seen Pearse Stadium more full, including plenty of Galway Mayo games with 20k attendances. I'd say the true figure yesterday was closer to 25k. The Tyrone Monaghan attendance looked low also. Wasn't there a few Mayo people laughing during the league at a 10k or so attendance being given when the entire 10k stand alone was full. Something being kept back I'd say
15 euro the ticket prices for Galway v KK in hurling yesterday. 25 euro it will be for Sligo v Galway in football next Sunday in Salthill where is the sense in those ticket prices?

Probably the difference between round robin and a semi final. Will they use the same logic when it comes to the football super 8s. I doubt it.

I've a season ticket and my gripe is that you only get 1 opt out. With the tight scheduling of fixtures i know I i'll miss more than one. The GAA wont mind though as they'll still get my money.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: inthrough on May 29, 2018, 01:34:42 PM
I'd strongly suggest these attendance figures aren't really accurate. They're saying 18k for Galway KK yest. I have never seen Pearse Stadium more full, including plenty of Galway Mayo games with 20k attendances. I'd say the true figure yesterday was closer to 25k. The Tyrone Monaghan attendance looked low also. Wasn't there a few Mayo people laughing during the league at a 10k or so attendance being given when the entire 10k stand alone was full. Something being kept back I'd say
15 euro the ticket prices for Galway v KK in hurling yesterday. 25 euro it will be for Sligo v Galway in football next Sunday in Salthill where is the sense in those ticket prices?
Count yourself dammed lucky at €25. If you rolled up to watch Derry V Donegal last Sunday they were charging an eye watering €35. No one to blame but themselves for lower crowds.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: mayo.mick on May 29, 2018, 01:37:50 PM
Re: ticket prices,

Can any of ye riddle me this? How come Mayo v Galway Q/final tickets were €30/25 yet Galway v Sligo S/final tickets are only €25/20?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: rosnarun on May 29, 2018, 01:56:15 PM
I'd strongly suggest these attendance figures aren't really accurate. They're saying 18k for Galway KK yest. I have never seen Pearse Stadium more full, including plenty of Galway Mayo games with 20k attendances. I'd say the true figure yesterday was closer to 25k. The Tyrone Monaghan attendance looked low also. Wasn't there a few Mayo people laughing during the league at a 10k or so attendance being given when the entire 10k stand alone was full. Something being kept back I'd say
15 euro the ticket prices for Galway v KK in hurling yesterday. 25 euro it will be for Sligo v Galway in football next Sunday in Salthill where is the sense in those ticket prices?
Count yourself dammed lucky at €25. If you rolled up to watch Derry V Donegal last Sunday they were charging an eye watering €35. No one to blame but themselves for lower crowds.

only if you bought on the day good bit cheaper on line
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 29, 2018, 03:36:34 PM
Re: ticket prices,

Can any of ye riddle me this? How come Mayo v Galway Q/final tickets were €30/25 yet Galway v Sligo S/final tickets are only €25/20?
Mr Prenty acting the bollix getting an extra €5 from his own county men.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Ambrose on May 29, 2018, 11:30:13 PM
5500 looked very ambitious for Down v Antrim on Saturday evening. Maybe someone who was there could give their thoughts.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on May 30, 2018, 05:41:32 PM
Having been laid up the last couple of days I got round to reading the Monday Sports sections that I'd kept since the Championships got under way and checking crowd figures.
Overall attendances to date
Football
Connacht  45,800 (4 games)
Leinster  32,500 (7)
Munster  7,300 (3)
Ulster 48,000 (5)
Hurling
Leinster 55,300 (6)
Munster 81,100 (4).
So the 19 football games drew 133,600 , the 10 hurling games 136,400.
We have 49 football games left (barring replays) while the hurley lot have 17.

I can see why we'll always have a Munster SHC while the Leinster SFC figures speak for themselves.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on May 30, 2018, 05:50:10 PM
Ulster 48,000 (5)

God be with the days when Armagh v Tyrone had 30,000+ of that in one first round game.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on May 30, 2018, 08:29:34 PM
Re: ticket prices,

Can any of ye riddle me this? How come Mayo v Galway Q/final tickets were €30/25 yet Galway v Sligo S/final tickets are only €25/20?

There were 5k Mayo season ticket  fans who do not have to purchase tickets for a round One game.  That shortfall has to be made up!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: didlyi on May 30, 2018, 09:50:58 PM
Having been laid up the last couple of days I got round to reading the Monday Sports sections that I'd kept since the Championships got under way and checking crowd figures.
Overall attendances to date
Football
Connacht  45,800 (4 games)
Leinster  32,500 (7)
Munster  7,300 (3)
Ulster 48,000 (5)
Hurling
Leinster 55,300 (6)
Munster 81,100 (4).
So the 19 football games drew 133,600 , the 10 hurling games 136,400.
We have 49 football games left (barring replays) while the hurley lot have 17.

I can see why we'll always have a Munster SHC while the Leinster SFC figures speak for themselves.

The hurling lot like their hurling...Langer
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 30, 2018, 10:35:15 PM
Jesus will the Leinster football Championship break the 100k barrier, will be the worst year on record.

The obvious solution is give more money to Dublin and play all the games in Croke Park.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on May 30, 2018, 11:05:38 PM
Jesus will the Leinster football Championship break the 100k barrier, will be the worst year on record.

The obvious solution is give more money to Dublin and play all the games in Croke Park.

I know create a round robin series at the quarter final stage. Champions league like. Give Dublin the chance to hammer each County one by one at home. Then they can play their semi final at home and their final at home. We all know Dublin have the best travelling fans in the country and are not afraid to walk, use Dublin bus or the Dart. Some are even known to cycle to matches.

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: twohands!!! on June 03, 2018, 10:32:56 PM
Kerry v Clare 16,729

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Orchard park on June 03, 2018, 10:36:16 PM
Jesus will the Leinster football Championship break the 100k barrier, will be the worst year on record.

The obvious solution is give more money to Dublin and play all the games in Croke Park.

I know create a round robin series at the quarter final stage. Champions league like. Give Dublin the chance to hammer each County one by one at home. Then they can play their semi final at home and their final at home. We all know Dublin have the best travelling fans in the country and are not afraid to walk, use Dublin bus or the Dart. Some are even known to cycle to matches.


Which has what to do with Dublin footballers excellence.....
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on June 03, 2018, 11:17:13 PM
GAA Attendance

Football
Monaghan v Fermanagh Attendance: 10,122
Kerry v Clare Attendance: 16,729
Galway v Sligo Attendance: 8,171
Total: 35,022

Hurling
Wexford v Galway Attendance: 14,565
Cork v Limerick Attendance: 34,607
Tipperary v Waterford Attendance: 10,237
Dublin v Offaly Attendance not given
Total: 59,409

Total weekend attendance: 94,431
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on June 03, 2018, 11:24:49 PM
Another poor Ulster attendance on a fine day.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 03, 2018, 11:26:49 PM
Galway Sligo attendance affected by the venue and Mayo or Ros not playing the home team I suspect.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: CumminsCiderLarry on June 03, 2018, 11:46:41 PM
Jesus will the Leinster football Championship break the 100k barrier, will be the worst year on record.

The obvious solution is give more money to Dublin and play all the games in Croke Park.

I know create a round robin series at the quarter final stage. Champions league like. Give Dublin the chance to hammer each County one by one at home. Then they can play their semi final at home and their final at home. We all know Dublin have the best travelling fans in the country and are not afraid to walk, use Dublin bus or the Dart. Some are even known to cycle to matches.


Which has what to do with Dublin footballers excellence.....

I dont think Dinny Breen or Amanda Bunker need any excuse to comment on the dubs. Seem to have a load in their trousers for them
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on June 03, 2018, 11:55:03 PM
Jesus will the Leinster football Championship break the 100k barrier, will be the worst year on record.

The obvious solution is give more money to Dublin and play all the games in Croke Park.

I know create a round robin series at the quarter final stage. Champions league like. Give Dublin the chance to hammer each County one by one at home. Then they can play their semi final at home and their final at home. We all know Dublin have the best travelling fans in the country and are not afraid to walk, use Dublin bus or the Dart. Some are even known to cycle to matches.


Which has what to do with Dublin footballers excellence.....

A fair bit, if you look at how sporting teams perform result wise in home games.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 04, 2018, 11:34:47 AM
Excellence or financial doping. People are too dumb to see the co-relation. The GAA have destroyed the Leinster Championship, people have voted with their feet.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: mayo.mick on June 04, 2018, 02:10:21 PM
GAA Attendance

Football
Monaghan v Fermanagh Attendance: 10,122
Kerry v Clare Attendance: 16,729
Galway v Sligo Attendance: 8,171
Total: 35,022

Hurling
Wexford v Galway Attendance: 14,565
Cork v Limerick Attendance: 34,607
Tipperary v Waterford Attendance: 10,237
Dublin v Offaly Attendance not given
Total: 59,409

Total weekend attendance: 94,431

Surely there's a 1 missing in front of 8171 attendance for Galway & Sligo???
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Syferus on June 04, 2018, 02:36:26 PM
GAA Attendance

Football
Monaghan v Fermanagh Attendance: 10,122
Kerry v Clare Attendance: 16,729
Galway v Sligo Attendance: 8,171
Total: 35,022

Hurling
Wexford v Galway Attendance: 14,565
Cork v Limerick Attendance: 34,607
Tipperary v Waterford Attendance: 10,237
Dublin v Offaly Attendance not given
Total: 59,409

Total weekend attendance: 94,431

Surely there's a 1 missing in front of 8171 attendance for Galway & Sligo???

Are you taking the piss out of Galway football supporters, Mick?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: munchkin on June 04, 2018, 02:54:17 PM
Another poor Ulster attendance on a fine day.
in absolute numbers, compared to other counties with multiples of the populations of Monaghan or Fermanagh, yes.

Monaghan and Fermanagh are 2 of the smallest counties population wise in Ireland.
Fermanagh has a population of 61,805 , 60% of whom are catholics/ nationalists, so really only 40,000 of a county population from a GAA perspective. Monaghan has about 60,000 so a combination population of about 100,000
For those 2 counties to have 10000 at a game, that's ten percent of their populations, so far from desperate.

The joint population of Cork and Limerick is 750,000. If they managed to have 10% of their population turn up, that'd be an attendance of  75,000 but they only got 35,000 ! 
 
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on June 04, 2018, 03:41:37 PM
Another poor Ulster attendance on a fine day.
in absolute numbers, compared to other counties with multiples of the populations of Monaghan or Fermanagh, yes.

Monaghan and Fermanagh are 2 of the smallest counties population wise in Ireland.
Fermanagh has a population of 61,805 , 60% of whom are catholics/ nationalists, so really only 40,000 of a county population from a GAA perspective. Monaghan has about 60,000 so a combination population of about 100,000
For those 2 counties to have 10000 at a game, that's ten percent of their populations, so far from desperate.

The joint population of Cork and Limerick is 750,000. If they managed to have 10% of their population turn up, that'd be an attendance of  75,000 but they only got 35,000 ! 
 

I am perfectly able to do sums, thank you. How come the crowd at Donegal and Cavan was so poor?
The fact is that crowds are less than before, and this might be one of the worst attended Ulster championships for a long time.

There were 93,009 last year in total to semi final stage and 100,489 the previous year. This year there are about 59,000 so far and Down and Donegal is not going to break records either.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on June 04, 2018, 04:54:08 PM
Another poor Ulster attendance on a fine day.
in absolute numbers, compared to other counties with multiples of the populations of Monaghan or Fermanagh, yes.

Monaghan and Fermanagh are 2 of the smallest counties population wise in Ireland.
Fermanagh has a population of 61,805 , 60% of whom are catholics/ nationalists, so really only 40,000 of a county population from a GAA perspective. Monaghan has about 60,000 so a combination population of about 100,000
For those 2 counties to have 10000 at a game, that's ten percent of their populations, so far from desperate.

The joint population of Cork and Limerick is 750,000. If they managed to have 10% of their population turn up, that'd be an attendance of  75,000 but they only got 35,000 ! 
 

I am perfectly able to do sums, thank you. How come the crowd at Donegal and Cavan was so poor?
The fact is that crowds are less than before, and this might be one of the worst attended Ulster championships for a long time.

There were 93,009 last year in total to semi final stage and 100,489 the previous year. This year there are about 59,000 so far and Down and Donegal is not going to break records either.
Smaller populated counties with lesser support like Fermanagh and Monaghan have gotten futher this year. The wind has been knocked out of Tyrone since last years capitulation to Dublin. Donegal supporters just don't believe in Donegal like they did circa 2011-2014. Derry, Down, Cavan, Antrim and Armagh have little or no faith. In reality nobody believes in their county in Ulster anymore! Leinster is the same bar ''CLUB AIG''. Munster is returning to old school and Connacht flatters to deceive.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: munchkin on June 04, 2018, 05:19:09 PM
was going to say something similar. Seeing Tyrone and Armagh already knocked out in the first game doesn't help the attendance figures as their supporters tend to travel in numbers, if the game is good. 
If you look over the attendances over the years, Down can also contribute to a tidy overall average as you'd have 15000 in Newry for a home game against Tyrone or Armagh (of course also helped by away supporters), but this year only 5000 bothered turning up to see them hammer Antrim.

As for why Donegal v Cavan attendance was relatively low, I'd say the cavan following was low enough given that there wasnt much hope of a win with the injury situation, not least with star player McVeety, and most likely the game wasnt that attractive for the Donegal supporters to have them turn out in force, for what was only a preliminary game, and with potentially another 3 match days out to shell out cash for for travel and tickets in the Ulster championship .
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: smelmoth on June 04, 2018, 06:24:02 PM
Spectacle: Poor
Entry price: High
Attendances: low
The bit if this that is difficult to understand: Less obvious
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Syferus on June 04, 2018, 06:32:52 PM
Price has rarely been the problem. To even suggest they are in general high is madness.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: SHEEDY on June 04, 2018, 06:47:19 PM
Price has rarely been the problem. To even suggest they are in general high is madness.
loads of people i have spoke with (and these are hardcore gaa people) are now put off from attending county matches by the price of tickets. families are simply being priced out. ulster gaa have on the day prices of £30 for the stand and £17 for the terrace and £5 for kids, (buying tickets in the build up are £2 cheaper) those prices are not going to fill many grounds in ulster.
for a family of 2 adults with 2 kids to attend a match your not going to have much change out of £100, people are now deciding to spend their money elsewhere.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on June 04, 2018, 06:57:21 PM
Price has rarely been the problem. To even suggest they are in general high is madness.
loads of people i have spoke with (and these are hardcore gaa people) are now put off from attending county matches by the price of tickets. families are simply being priced out. ulster gaa have on the day prices of £30 for the stand and £17 for the terrace and £5 for kids, (buying tickets in the build up are £2 cheaper) those prices are not going to fill many grounds in ulster.
for a family of 2 adults with 2 kids to attend a match your not going to have much change out of £100, people are now deciding to spend their money elsewhere.

Are prices relative to other things any more than they always were? Are they more than the Munster hurling championship?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: SHEEDY on June 04, 2018, 07:37:38 PM
Price has rarely been the problem. To even suggest they are in general high is madness.
loads of people i have spoke with (and these are hardcore gaa people) are now put off from attending county matches by the price of tickets. families are simply being priced out. ulster gaa have on the day prices of £30 for the stand and £17 for the terrace and £5 for kids, (buying tickets in the build up are £2 cheaper) those prices are not going to fill many grounds in ulster.
for a family of 2 adults with 2 kids to attend a match your not going to have much change out of £100, people are now deciding to spend their money elsewhere.

Are prices relative to other things any more than they always were? Are they more than the Munster hurling championship?

think i read somewhere that ulster football matches are on average £8 dearer than munster hurling, open to correction on that though. the attendances at provincial matches in ulster have been on downward spiral for a few years now, ticket prices and quality of football have to be the main reasons.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 04, 2018, 07:44:42 PM
Limerick v Waterford next Sunday
Stand  €20 in advance/€25 on the day
Terrace €15/€20.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: thebar on June 04, 2018, 07:54:04 PM
Price has rarely been the problem. To even suggest they are in general high is madness.

Madness? I can only assume this was mean't as a joke?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 04, 2018, 07:56:39 PM
Nah it's just Syf and his parallel Universe. :D ;D
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Syferus on June 04, 2018, 08:05:43 PM
Price has rarely been the problem. To even suggest they are in general high is madness.
loads of people i have spoke with (and these are hardcore gaa people) are now put off from attending county matches by the price of tickets. families are simply being priced out. ulster gaa have on the day prices of £30 for the stand and £17 for the terrace and £5 for kids, (buying tickets in the build up are £2 cheaper) those prices are not going to fill many grounds in ulster.
for a family of 2 adults with 2 kids to attend a match your not going to have much change out of £100, people are now deciding to spend their money elsewhere.

Anyone who is ‘hardcore’ and is complaining about what are remarkably low ticket prices are spoilt, or are without context of what the wider sporting and event market is like, to be honest. What other popular field sport has cheaper prices on its premier competition? Do you know how much a concert ticket is? A convention? Ticket prices for events in general far exceed the average price of a GAA match. You’ll never do anything or go to anything if the price of football tickets really is the issue.

And yeah, when you want to bring four or five people to an event it tends to increase the price significantly - this is not unique to the GAA. They’ve done nearly everything they can on pricing, it’s the promotion and the product on the field that is leading to the problem with attendances.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Hound on June 04, 2018, 08:39:23 PM
Excellence or financial doping. People are too dumb to see the co-relation. The GAA have destroyed the Leinster Championship, people have voted with their feet.
Or too bitter to see the excellence. The brilliance. The determination. The never-say-die attitude.

Did financial doping turn Dean Rock from a mediocre free taker into one of the best and most reliable?

Dublin have turned Leinster into a procession by being so damned good.
Kildare and Meath have helped by being so incompetent.

Remember, Dublin were dominating Leinster long before we were winning All Irelands. It used to be said Leinster was a huge disadvantage to us, because having no competition meant the first time we came up against a decent team, we inevitably lost. Even though it was in Croke Park.   

But now we're paying Jonny Cooper and Brian Fenton and Ciaran Kilkenny so much to be so brilliant, we can beat teams outside Leinster now also. Did you ever see Philly McMahon, our corner back, kicking points from 40 yards? That's the money you know! 

I listened to Kildare radio in the car for the Carlow match, and the commentators were raging with the stupid fouls, stupid decisions and lack of heart shown by the kildare lads. If only you had money to fix those things. (They were annoyed with the Carlow coach constantly running onto the pitch too, but I don't think money would help that).
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 04, 2018, 08:48:49 PM
Excellence or financial doping. People are too dumb to see the co-relation. The GAA have destroyed the Leinster Championship, people have voted with their feet.
Or too bitter to see the excellence. The brilliance. The determination. The never-say-die attitude.

Did financial doping turn Dean Rock from a mediocre free taker into one of the best and most reliable?

Dublin have turned Leinster into a procession by being so damned good.
Kildare and Meath have helped by being so incompetent.

Remember, Dublin were dominating Leinster long before we were winning All Irelands. It used to be said Leinster was a huge disadvantage to us, because having no competition meant the first time we came up against a decent team, we inevitably lost. Even though it was in Croke Park.   

But now we're paying Jonny Cooper and Brian Fenton and Ciaran Kilkenny so much to be so brilliant, we can beat teams outside Leinster now also. Did you ever see Philly McMahon, our corner back, kicking points from 40 yards? That's the money you know! 

I listened to Kildare radio in the car for the Carlow match, and the commentators were raging with the stupid fouls, stupid decisions and lack of heart shown by the kildare lads. If only you had money to fix those things. (They were annoyed with the Carlow coach constantly running onto the pitch too, but I don't think money would help that).

Ha! You just proved the point. Technical analysis doesn't come cheap. Your obsession with Kildare is not healthy. You defer to them every time, they are irrelevant as are Meath. Deflection, deflection.

Btw Dublin weren't dominating Leinster in the early 00s. I wonder when did the GAA started financial doping them? Would Offaly hurling be in such disrepair if they had a fraction a Dublin's GAA funding? Cause and affect.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Syferus on June 04, 2018, 08:55:30 PM
Excellence or financial doping. People are too dumb to see the co-relation. The GAA have destroyed the Leinster Championship, people have voted with their feet.
Or too bitter to see the excellence. The brilliance. The determination. The never-say-die attitude.

Did financial doping turn Dean Rock from a mediocre free taker into one of the best and most reliable?

Dublin have turned Leinster into a procession by being so damned good.
Kildare and Meath have helped by being so incompetent.

Remember, Dublin were dominating Leinster long before we were winning All Irelands. It used to be said Leinster was a huge disadvantage to us, because having no competition meant the first time we came up against a decent team, we inevitably lost. Even though it was in Croke Park.   

But now we're paying Jonny Cooper and Brian Fenton and Ciaran Kilkenny so much to be so brilliant, we can beat teams outside Leinster now also. Did you ever see Philly McMahon, our corner back, kicking points from 40 yards? That's the money you know! 

I listened to Kildare radio in the car for the Carlow match, and the commentators were raging with the stupid fouls, stupid decisions and lack of heart shown by the kildare lads. If only you had money to fix those things. (They were annoyed with the Carlow coach constantly running onto the pitch too, but I don't think money would help that).

That first line is some serious cringe.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on June 04, 2018, 10:03:09 PM
Excellence or financial doping. People are too dumb to see the co-relation. The GAA have destroyed the Leinster Championship, people have voted with their feet.
Or too bitter to see the excellence. The brilliance. The determination. The never-say-die attitude.

Did financial doping turn Dean Rock from a mediocre free taker into one of the best and most reliable?

Dublin have turned Leinster into a procession by being so damned good.
Kildare and Meath have helped by being so incompetent.

Remember, Dublin were dominating Leinster long before we were winning All Irelands. It used to be said Leinster was a huge disadvantage to us, because having no competition meant the first time we came up against a decent team, we inevitably lost. Even though it was in Croke Park.   

But now we're paying Jonny Cooper and Brian Fenton and Ciaran Kilkenny so much to be so brilliant, we can beat teams outside Leinster now also. Did you ever see Philly McMahon, our corner back, kicking points from 40 yards? That's the money you know! 

I listened to Kildare radio in the car for the Carlow match, and the commentators were raging with the stupid fouls, stupid decisions and lack of heart shown by the kildare lads. If only you had money to fix those things. (They were annoyed with the Carlow coach constantly running onto the pitch too, but I don't think money would help that).

That first line is some serious cringe.

Ah, to be fair the cringe goes further than the first line.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Hound on June 04, 2018, 10:10:49 PM
Excellence or financial doping. People are too dumb to see the co-relation. The GAA have destroyed the Leinster Championship, people have voted with their feet.
Or too bitter to see the excellence. The brilliance. The determination. The never-say-die attitude.

Did financial doping turn Dean Rock from a mediocre free taker into one of the best and most reliable?

Dublin have turned Leinster into a procession by being so damned good.
Kildare and Meath have helped by being so incompetent.

Remember, Dublin were dominating Leinster long before we were winning All Irelands. It used to be said Leinster was a huge disadvantage to us, because having no competition meant the first time we came up against a decent team, we inevitably lost. Even though it was in Croke Park.   

But now we're paying Jonny Cooper and Brian Fenton and Ciaran Kilkenny so much to be so brilliant, we can beat teams outside Leinster now also. Did you ever see Philly McMahon, our corner back, kicking points from 40 yards? That's the money you know! 

I listened to Kildare radio in the car for the Carlow match, and the commentators were raging with the stupid fouls, stupid decisions and lack of heart shown by the kildare lads. If only you had money to fix those things. (They were annoyed with the Carlow coach constantly running onto the pitch too, but I don't think money would help that).

Ha! You just proved the point. Technical analysis doesn't come cheap. Your obsession with Kildare is not healthy. You defer to them every time, they are irrelevant as are Meath. Deflection, deflection.

Btw Dublin weren't dominating Leinster in the early 00s. I wonder when did the GAA started financial doping them? Would Offaly hurling be in such disrepair if they had a fraction a Dublin's GAA funding? Cause and affect.
My obsession with Kildare!! That's good, giving all the whinging you do against the Dubs!

We trounced Kildare every year in the 70s and 80s. Then Kildare always had some top class players, but they were generally disorganised and easily rattled. Soft underbelly. Then you got a good manager, proper organisation, the players got belief to go along with their ability. I remember we played you off the park one day to lead by 6 points at HT, and you didnt even play brilliantly in the second half, but you weren't going to be beaten. You just had the upper hand. Slightly better players, much better attitude.

Now we beat Kildare easy again, for the exact same reason we did in the 70s and 80s. We have better players. We have much better work rate. You've a soft under belly. But you've some lovely underage teams last few years and more coming, so you should contend again - if you can get a manager in the same league as Jim Gavin.

Dublin have passed Offaly out at hurling, mainly I would suggest because of numbers and organisation. I wonder what the Dubs v Offaly record is like at minor and U21 the last 10 years? I haven't looked it up, but I bet it's hugely in Dublin's favour. We've a load more young lads and we've a load more volunteer coaches in each club and in the development squads.

There is no doubt there is Offaly men teaching underage hurling to young lads in Kilmacud, Cuala and Ballyboden, among others, and they're not getting paid a cent! Demographics. We need Offaly people to stay in Offaly. So we need jobs everywhere, not just in Dublin.

(Although it is interesting that in hurling the Dubs had passed out Wexford, but the arrivals of Ger Cunningham and Davy Fitz doubly handedly swung the pendulum back to Wexford. But Gilroy seems to have recovered some of that ground, although not enough for this year.)

Kildare man Charlie McCreevy had the right plan to move most of the civil servants out of Dublin, which would have been a great first step. It was by no means a perfect plan, but it was miles better than doing nothing.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Hound on June 04, 2018, 10:17:33 PM

Ah, to be fair the cringe goes further than the first line.

Ah to be fair, two own goals in an All Ireland final, you know cringe when you see it.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on June 05, 2018, 12:17:15 AM

Ah, to be fair the cringe goes further than the first line.

Ah to be fair, two own goals in an All Ireland final, you know cringe when you see it.

And now cringe goes into the second verse!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on June 05, 2018, 12:18:22 AM
Kildare are the greatest underachievers in the GAA over a long period of time. While they are crap now, Meath have been top class at some periods.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on June 05, 2018, 12:24:30 AM
Kildare are the greatest underachievers in the GAA over a long period of time. While they are crap now, Meath have been top class at some periods.

To be fair Mayo hold that title. The thing is what is underachievement? Where do Carlow, Waterford, Tipperary, Cavan (football) come in relation to underachievement. How about Leitrim? Laois in Hurling? Dublin in Hurling? Limerick in Hurling? What is achievement for Armagh?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on June 05, 2018, 12:49:10 AM
Kildare are the greatest underachievers in the GAA over a long period of time. While they are crap now, Meath have been top class at some periods.

To be fair Mayo hold that title. The thing is what is underachievement? Where do Carlow, Waterford, Tipperary, Cavan (football) come in relation to underachievement. How about Leitrim? Laois in Hurling? Dublin in Hurling? Limerick in Hurling? What is achievement for Armagh?

While we all like to slag Mayo, they have been in finals and in recent years giving Dublin a game. They are not underachievers overall, just bad at closing the deal. After 1935 Kildare have only 3 provincial titles, this is an underachievement.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 05, 2018, 10:07:31 AM
Kildare are the greatest underachievers in the GAA over a long period of time. While they are crap now, Meath have been top class at some periods.

The only thing Kildare have got to do with fallen attendances is that their supporters see financial doping for what it is and that there is no level playing field. Meath supporters as well. Stick to your shit Ulster championship, where Armagh haven't even reached a final in 10 years and waste money on McGeeny. Crowds in Ulster are down as well but let's just pretend everything is fine in the world outside Leinster.

By way Meath (47.6%) and Kildare(45.3%) have the largest populations of people from outside the county. I thank everyone's favourite asshole for that stat. Again MacKenna, doing great work while the rest of the MSM pays it lip service

http://www.punditarena.com/gaa/emackenna/death-leinster-football-upon-us/ (http://www.punditarena.com/gaa/emackenna/death-leinster-football-upon-us/)

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At first glance, there seemed nothing unusual or untoward about the notice.

The bus would leave for the Dublin-Wicklow quarter-final in O’Moore Park, Portlaoise from outside the local clubhouse at 1.30pm on the dot; juveniles would be a fiver; adults were €20, but that included the first drowning or celebratory drink back in the bar upon return. No different to many other places up and down the country on summer Sundays. Move along, nothing to see here.

There was one problem though. The notice belonged to Donaghmore-Ashbourne. In Meath.

Subsequently removed from social media, it’ll be a while before it’s forgotten. And while there’s nothing fundamentally wrong with catering for locals, it was a microcosm of Leinster’s ills. Just imagine such a stunt being pulled only a generation back, when health was measured in hatred.

There have been other instances in recent times from places that used to provide the necessary opposing side to any rivalry, pushing back against a county that represented so many values that were no worse, rather different. In south Kildare, a football heartland not long ago, Grange didn’t have any of their own countymen turning the sod on a new pitch in 2017, but Bernard Brogan. Meanwhile even closer to the frontier, last March a major fundraiser for Clane saw Jim Gavin attend, while last September their clubhouse hosted an event headlined by Dublin’s champions with a trophy they’ve taken ownership of, offering locals what’ll be their only chance to touch it.

It reminded that you should never patronise someone who knows they don’t deserve it, for they will be quick to compliment your failures.



These are all little examples of both the how and why around football dying in the province as it retreats like a glacier in the sun. As much as a stronger Dublin was often touted as being crucial, and still is by certain suits living in the short term, they need someone to give them a game. But that latter part was forgotten by a GAA always out with its milking stool, eyeing up the cash cow.

Consider Leixlip as an example. A major growth centre that’s rapidly gone from a village to a town of over 15,000 people, there are two clubs there. Last year though they had to amalgamate at minor level due to a lack of interest rather than a lack of work. There’s no funding for such a place, but based on the same parameters of sprawl, a four-mile drive to the other side of Weston Airport is Lucan Sarsfields which is blooming, helped along by GAA money pumped into coaches and organisers. Some animals aren’t meant to be more equal than others, yet the GAA has justified centrally funded expertise going to one and not the other because of no more than a border.

That is the definition of bias. And that exact bias has destroyed what was once so special to all.

Those with their heads in the sand, leaving their arses in the air, will correctly point to the fact that in the capital the GAA only pay half of Games Development Officers’ wages, with the rest needing to be raised by the club or clubs that wish to use them. But they rarely point out that the Leinster Council model operates in the same way.

The difference is others cannot afford their half, as their counties simply don’t have the market share to attract big business for sponsorship. If you don’t believe us, think what happened when Kildare last approached multi-nationals in their midst.

So much of this is about the brand and that is telling. There’s no escaping that global effect, and there’s a reason world leaders used to come out at the Davos Economic Summit each year and say action was needed as 90 percent of global wealth was owned by 10 percent of the population, and now they come out and bemoan 1,000 people clasping 99 percent of the planet’s money.

It’s unrelenting and more than ever folk buy what they are sold. Sport is the same as the bigger you get, the more you hoover up and it’s self-fulfilling. In our own little GAA way, Dublin is proof of this.

It’s little wonder that in an era where the GAA’s obvious attitude of favouritism has not only prevailed but been normalised, those from the wrong side of the tracks know they cannot win thus try far less. Indeed while Meath players have been vocal on this with the likes of Paddy O’Rourke saying what’s the point, others also think it.

In recent years speaking to current players from three other counties – including Kildare after a Leinster final and a Longford player who now must be annihilated by Dublin again – they agreed. They couldn’t prevail. And if you think that’s loser talk then you don’t understand modern sport and what certain advantages and certain numbers mean.

When the Las Vegas Knights went out to play their first game of the Stanley Cup finals in their inaugural season recently, their coach Gerard Gallant’s last words were important across sports. “Let’s go out and have some fun,” he said. But that’s not possible when a beating is inevitable.

None of this is to say that Carlow and Longford toppling two former powerhouses in the province wasn’t wonderful, in fact just listening to Brendan Hennessy’s and Willie Quinlan’s screaming around a press box that showed what football can briefly and used to always mean.

Speaking to my father after that game in Tullamore, he said a Carlow kid beside his Dad on the terrace, both too scared to think of winning in case it might jinx it in the final minutes, gave him a flashback to us years ago clad in white. There’s a key difference though as then, while a win was rarely met with another, there was always the dream of going a little further such was the relative parity.

Heading into the weekend’s Leinster semi-finals, Laois can talk of being nine games unbeaten this year; Carlow can talk of only losing to Laois as well as promotion and a scalp for the ages; Longford could have been promoted too, but many would gladly have traded that for their last day out. But for all the interest and attention that will have brought, a corpse and a bag of lime await them all. Optimism is the faith that leads to achievement; nothing can be done without hope or confidence.

What good will the inevitable do for Longford on Sunday? And get to a Leinster final and, for the winners of the other game, it’ll be no different as they’ll be asked to pay to watch their identity humiliated and their work dismantled as the next generation lose interest and this generation realise it’s all for nothing.

Wicklow had it the last day, met by mocking cheers when they scored. Kids now don’t believe in pride of place. It’s that place that has to give them the pride but it can’t.

It’s not even as simple as those who say look at Monaghan and how they maximise what they have. That’s true, but when they come up against Dublin in the summer they haven’t got near them, and they’re fortunate those encounters are rare.

It’s key for those in the other provinces as they tend to lose narrowly and limp into the qualifiers or, if they do get to face and lose to Dublin later, they tend to have a trophy or big wins to show. No Leinster player gets that chance to hoist silverware to the point it’s fair to say that no counties suffer from the system like those in the east.

That leaves a pivotal and problematic question around whether the rest of the province exists merely to facilitate Dublin’s needs and wants? All evidence sadly says that’s a rhetorical query.

Not long ago county teams in Meath and Kildare were institutions, the players heroes for adults, idols for children. And in the latter’s case it wasn’t even about winning as their record shows, rather the chance to win. That’s no longer the case. It’s not even an ambition for many anymore. Their recent losses were even met with disinterested laughter from within as opposed to dismay. They’ve PTSD and anyone with such doesn’t really tend to yearn for more of what caused it.

For sure Kildare could be doing more turning underage teams that go toe-to-toe with Dublin into a senior outfit with more motivation and method; Meath need to start a bit earlier. But their reality is that if Dublin have tens of multiples of their resources, are they going to go all in in terms of commitment to lose heavily or just go easy and lose by a few more? The outcome is human nature.

If you ask teachers about jersey days in schools around the commuter belt, places you often hear should be doing better given population by those without an understanding of the reality, the answers are standard. Premier League soccer and Dublin GAA tops dominate, and last come the local county. It’s replicated over and over.

Given the influx of those from the capital into these areas, the clubs there should be straining at the seams as if a Dublin superclub, only they aren’t. In some cases, transplant parents continue to bring kids back to their home club. But more often than not these places are dormitory towns, a place for people to sleep, not to interact and to live.

It’ll get worse too, even without the GAA’s efforts. No county has had bigger population percentage growth than Dublin, and this percentage means their growth is nominally far bigger. On top of that, at the last census, 36 percent of Kildare people and 39 percent of Meath people left their own county, but just 19 percent of Dublin people left home. It goes on as if you go back to the 2011 census, the counties with the highest percentage of residents from outside them are those bordering Dublin with almost half of Meath’s Irish population (47.6 percent) from another county, slightly higher than Kildare’s 45.3 percent. Now add in the GAA’s money differential.

So bad is it that Dublin have lost one game of eastern football in 14 seasons, and none since 2010. The last five finals have been won by an average of 12 points and the desperation to pretend all is well saw Kildare told to hold their heads high and slapped on the back for only losing by nine last year. Again, imagine that situation being the case just a generation ago. It’s farcical.

However, if that’s past and present, it’s scary to think what’s next. The lazy argument is that no one complained when Kerry and Kilkenny dominated, but they did so by means replicable elsewhere.

With Dublin though, how can you replicate demographics and, by extension, sponsorship?

Using playing numbers and population, just 2.91 percent of those in Dublin are lining out versus 8.6 percent in the rest of Leinster. The aim is to grow Dublin but if they were to reach parity with those around them for instance, that would be an extra 76,533 players or two-and-a-half times more than are already playing in Kildare and Meath combined. But as one grows the other falls away and the FAI and IRFU have seen this. So why would anyone want to send their kids to play a sport where the governing body discriminates against you based purely on where you are from? If you can offer a thirsty man a drink, he’s more likely to come around to your thinking and bidding.

Secondly, that brings us to funding, and there’s no way the GAA can ever make amends.

By now the figures are well known and if not so startling they’d be tiresome. Between 2005 and 2009, a total of €5m was made available to Dublin via the taxpayer for games development projects. The GAA alongside this dumped loads of cash into the capital to the point that between 2010 and 2014, per registered player, Kildare and Meath averaged €20 per head while Dublin were gladly accepting €274.70.

That’s before the €1m or so a year their main sponsor and long list of major companies they have as partners were handing over. No team in history has ever received such disproportionate funding, and it’s a zero coincidence that Dublin teams in hurling and football, men’s and women’s, underage and senior, club and county, are further ahead than ever.

What happens next is the same nationwide as Mayo will go bankrupt for daring to keep pace and then what? But for the GAA, by spoiling Dublin, even they are a problem. The attendance for their win against Wicklow was less than 12,000 and, being generous, we’ll say 11,000 of those were from Dublin.

So, as a proportion of those that live there (we know not all are from Dublin and there are other sports, but that’s the same everywhere else too), it would be the equivalent of Carlow bringing 450 to their opener. As champions. With one of the great teams. In a match, they were guaranteed to win. In a venue that’s 45 minutes away served by public transport almost hourly. You can talk about the others in the province being sick, but that doesn’t scream health either.

Frankly, it’s boring so why would you waste your free time. And that takes us back to a seminal moment in the destruction of it all. Former Dublin chairman John Bailey in 2002 wandered into the office of Minister for Sport John O’Donoghue with a revolutionary view for the future that would have catastrophic effects.

“He didn’t exactly receive me with open arms,” he has previously told me. “A Kerry man so he wouldn’t be biased, he’d be blinkered instead.” Crucially, he wasn’t just reliant on Kerry men as by then Bertie Ahern had climbed to the top. As Seán Kelly said of the overhaul, “When it came to Bailey’s plan, Ahern’s door was open without the need to even knock.”

“The structures and coaching were a weakness,” continued Bailey. “We went to the Taoiseach – he always helped us in any way he could – and said we need €2m to pay 100 coaches but I told him I’d give him it back. He looked puzzled. ‘How will you do that?’” Bailey proceeded to explain that he’d take people on the dole, pay them €45,000, the government would get 20 percent back in tax, and 22 percent PRSI between employer and employee. “That was it. It subsidised all these coaches.”

That was the beginning of the end as in their time of need the GAA didn’t turn their back on Dublin, rather welcomed them with open arms. Now that everyone else is in far greater need, they don’t want to know.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: donelli on June 05, 2018, 10:20:30 AM
Genrally am ok with prices into games.
However this year the Ulster GAA put them ticket prices up a few quid, which i thought was uncalled for. Its the fact the higher frequency of the games is putting a bigger expense on match goers in a smaller period. For example, if Donegal get to the final they will gave played a game every fortnight, 4 games in 7 weekends. That is a lot of expense in a shorter time than previous championships which took place over 10 weeks.
It does make a big difference.

With the round robin quarter finals coming up too, there will be added expense. If a team is in the qualifiers from round 2, it'll be 6 games out of 7 weekends that matches will be played before any semi final is played. Havnt seen the prices yet to the qualifiers but the financial cost before tickets to go to all them games will be quite significant.
Would rather hear pundits argue for this instead of the tired rte v sky subscription debate. Look after those who take the effort in paying into games before couch fans.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: blewuporstuffed on June 05, 2018, 10:24:27 AM
Genrally am ok with prices into games.
However this year the Ulster GAA put them ticket prices up a few quid, which i thought was uncalled for. Its the fact the higher frequency of the games is putting a bigger expense on match goers in a smaller period. For example, if Donegal get to the final they will gave played a game every fortnight, 4 games in 7 weekends. That is a lot of expense in a shorter time than previous championships which took place over 10 weeks.
It does make a big difference.

With the round robin quarter finals coming up too, there will be added expense. If a team is in the qualifiers from round 2, it'll be 6 games out of 7 weekends that matches will be played before any semi final is played. Havnt seen the prices yet to the qualifiers but the financial cost before tickets to go to all them games will be quite significant.
Would rather hear pundits argue for this instead of the tired rte v sky subscription debate. Look after those who take the effort in paying into games before couch fans.

That would involve a bit of thought about the game and the issues surrounding the GAA, rather than trotting out the same oul BS.
Joe & pat get free into games, so i wont affect them.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on June 05, 2018, 10:42:46 AM
Kildare are the greatest underachievers in the GAA over a long period of time. While they are crap now, Meath have been top class at some periods.

The only thing Kildare have got to do with fallen attendances is that their supporters see financial doping for what it is and that there is no level playing field. Meath supporters as well. Stick to your shit Ulster championship, where Armagh haven't even reached a final in 10 years and waste money on McGeeny. Crowds in Ulster are down as well but let's just pretend everything is fine in the world outside Leinster.

My point was simple enough, over the last 80 years Meath have had several periods where their success reflected their population, Kildare has not. There is a longe term pattern here,  I largely agree with you on the aggravated issues in the current decade and I think the GAA need to seriously look at things in the Dublin commuter belt and in Derry and Belfast.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 05, 2018, 11:02:44 AM
Kildare are the greatest underachievers in the GAA over a long period of time. While they are crap now, Meath have been top class at some periods.

The only thing Kildare have got to do with fallen attendances is that their supporters see financial doping for what it is and that there is no level playing field. Meath supporters as well. Stick to your shit Ulster championship, where Armagh haven't even reached a final in 10 years and waste money on McGeeny. Crowds in Ulster are down as well but let's just pretend everything is fine in the world outside Leinster.

My point was simple enough, over the last 80 years Meath have had several periods where their success reflected their population, Kildare has not. There is a longe term pattern here,  I largely agree with you on the aggravated issues in the current decade and I think the GAA need to seriously look at things in the Dublin commuter belt and in Derry and Belfast.

I don't disagree to a point but Kildare didn't always have such a large population, it only boomed since the 90s, the population of Kildare in 1930s to the 70s was less that 60K. The biggest sport in Kildare is horse-racing, it's an actual industry in Kildare employing 1000s full and part-time staff so culturally we are not that focused on GAA.

Anyway socioeconomic conditions will always be a factor it's an organic factor that is swayed heavily in favour of counties with large populations. However an organisation favouring the county with the most socio-economic factors with financial doping results in the current Leinster Championship. The GAA thought they needed Dublin's supporters to finance grass-roots, it has backfired spectacularly. If Leinster had Dublin, Kildare, Meath, and say Offaly and Westmeath at a comparable level you would replicate the Munster Hurling Championship, massive crowds and a proper Leinster Championship, that should have been the vision. That should have been the socialist vision, not the all are equal but some are more equal than others.

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Jinxy on June 05, 2018, 11:24:11 AM
In the 1997 Leinster championship, Meath beat Dublin in the quarter-final, took 3 games to beat Kildare in the semi-final and lost to Offaly in the final.
In the 1998 Leinster championship, Kildare beat Dublin in the quarter-final, Meath beat Offaly in the quarter-final and Kildare beat Meath in the final.
Then, in the following years Westmeath and Laois broke through to win titles.
From the mid-nineties to the mid-noughties, the Leinster championship was a thing of beauty.
Will we ever see anything like that again?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: AZOffaly on June 05, 2018, 11:26:58 AM
In the 1997 Leinster championship, Meath beat Dublin in the quarter-final, took 3 games to beat Kildare in the semi-final and lost to Offaly in the final.
In the 1998 Leinster championship, Kildare beat Dublin in the quarter-final, Meath beat Offaly in the quarter-final and Kildare beat Meath in the final.
Then, in the following years Westmeath and Laois broke through to win titles.
From the mid-nineties to the mid-noughties, the Leinster championship was a thing of beauty.
Will we ever see anything like that again?

I wonder what changed?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: mup on June 05, 2018, 11:32:05 AM
Excellence or financial doping. People are too dumb to see the co-relation. The GAA have destroyed the Leinster Championship, people have voted with their feet.
Or too bitter to see the excellence. The brilliance. The determination. The never-say-die attitude.

Did financial doping turn Dean Rock from a mediocre free taker into one of the best and most reliable?

Dublin have turned Leinster into a procession by being so damned good.
Kildare and Meath have helped by being so incompetent.

Remember, Dublin were dominating Leinster long before we were winning All Irelands. It used to be said Leinster was a huge disadvantage to us, because having no competition meant the first time we came up against a decent team, we inevitably lost. Even though it was in Croke Park.   

But now we're paying Jonny Cooper and Brian Fenton and Ciaran Kilkenny so much to be so brilliant, we can beat teams outside Leinster now also. Did you ever see Philly McMahon, our corner back, kicking points from 40 yards? That's the money you know! 

I listened to Kildare radio in the car for the Carlow match, and the commentators were raging with the stupid fouls, stupid decisions and lack of heart shown by the kildare lads. If only you had money to fix those things. (They were annoyed with the Carlow coach constantly running onto the pitch too, but I don't think money would help that).

Ha! You just proved the point. Technical analysis doesn't come cheap. Your obsession with Kildare is not healthy. You defer to them every time, they are irrelevant as are Meath. Deflection, deflection.

Btw Dublin weren't dominating Leinster in the early 00s. I wonder when did the GAA started financial doping them? Would Offaly hurling be in such disrepair if they had a fraction a Dublin's GAA funding? Cause and affect.
My obsession with Kildare!! That's good, giving all the whinging you do against the Dubs!

We trounced Kildare every year in the 70s and 80s. Then Kildare always had some top class players, but they were generally disorganised and easily rattled. Soft underbelly. Then you got a good manager, proper organisation, the players got belief to go along with their ability. I remember we played you off the park one day to lead by 6 points at HT, and you didnt even play brilliantly in the second half, but you weren't going to be beaten. You just had the upper hand. Slightly better players, much better attitude.

Now we beat Kildare easy again, for the exact same reason we did in the 70s and 80s. We have better players. We have much better work rate. You've a soft under belly. But you've some lovely underage teams last few years and more coming, so you should contend again - if you can get a manager in the same league as Jim Gavin.

Dublin have passed Offaly out at hurling, mainly I would suggest because of numbers and organisation. I wonder what the Dubs v Offaly record is like at minor and U21 the last 10 years? I haven't looked it up, but I bet it's hugely in Dublin's favour. We've a load more young lads and we've a load more volunteer coaches in each club and in the development squads.

There is no doubt there is Offaly men teaching underage hurling to young lads in Kilmacud, Cuala and Ballyboden, among others, and they're not getting paid a cent! Demographics. We need Offaly people to stay in Offaly. So we need jobs everywhere, not just in Dublin.

(Although it is interesting that in hurling the Dubs had passed out Wexford, but the arrivals of Ger Cunningham and Davy Fitz doubly handedly swung the pendulum back to Wexford. But Gilroy seems to have recovered some of that ground, although not enough for this year.)

Kildare man Charlie McCreevy had the right plan to move most of the civil servants out of Dublin, which would have been a great first step. It was by no means a perfect plan, but it was miles better than doing nothing.

Pure ostrich stuff here.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 05, 2018, 11:33:16 AM
In the 1997 Leinster championship, Meath beat Dublin in the quarter-final, took 3 games to beat Kildare in the semi-final and lost to Offaly in the final.
In the 1998 Leinster championship, Kildare beat Dublin in the quarter-final, Meath beat Offaly in the quarter-final and Kildare beat Meath in the final.
Then, in the following years Westmeath and Laois broke through to win titles.
From the mid-nineties to the mid-noughties, the Leinster championship was a thing of beauty.
Will we ever see anything like that again?

Of course. Once this once in a generation Dublin team sink into the chasing pack once again..... ::)
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: mup on June 05, 2018, 11:35:43 AM
Kildare are the greatest underachievers in the GAA over a long period of time. While they are crap now, Meath have been top class at some periods.

Kildare 4 AI's and 13 Provincial Titles
Armagh 1 AI and 14 Provincial Titles

After all the Crossmaglen success you reckon you should have won more.

And you call Kildare underachievers?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 05, 2018, 11:36:34 AM
Anyway did anyone find out what was the attendance in Parnell Park last Sunday?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: mup on June 05, 2018, 11:38:07 AM
In the 1997 Leinster championship, Meath beat Dublin in the quarter-final, took 3 games to beat Kildare in the semi-final and lost to Offaly in the final.
In the 1998 Leinster championship, Kildare beat Dublin in the quarter-final, Meath beat Offaly in the quarter-final and Kildare beat Meath in the final.
Then, in the following years Westmeath and Laois broke through to win titles.
From the mid-nineties to the mid-noughties, the Leinster championship was a thing of beauty.
Will we ever see anything like that again?

Seriously I don't think we will. It has gone too far. Young lads will turn to other sports to try and achieve some success. Football is seen as a lost cause in the rest of Leinster. There is no point in playing it.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: twohands!!! on June 09, 2018, 03:58:16 PM
Derry v Kildare 2,698
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Syferus on June 09, 2018, 03:58:54 PM
Derry v Kildare 2,698

Two proud counties reduced to that is horrendous.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: twohands!!! on June 09, 2018, 04:01:05 PM
Derry v Kildare 2,698

Two proud counties reduced to that is horrendous.

Both in fairly horrendous form so not that surprising.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on June 09, 2018, 04:23:36 PM
Derry v Kildare 2,698

Two proud counties reduced to that is horrendous.

Both in fairly horrendous form so not that surprising.

Ah sure the Super 8's is the solution.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Syferus on June 09, 2018, 04:39:15 PM
Derry v Kildare 2,698

Two proud counties reduced to that is horrendous.

Both in fairly horrendous form so not that surprising.

One of them was in D1 this season..
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 09, 2018, 05:06:50 PM
Yea but you were warned.

Apathy plus 3pm ko on a Saturday and 8 hour round trip from Kildare heartland. At least 2K Derry supporters showed up.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: markl121 on June 09, 2018, 06:00:58 PM
Owenbeg seemed pretty packed. How many does it hold? Looked like more than that in it.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 09, 2018, 11:34:20 PM
Yea but you were warned.

Apathy plus 3pm ko on a Saturday and 8 hour round trip from Kildare heartland. At least 2K Derry supporters showed up.

Yellow card there, Dinny
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: LooseCannon on June 09, 2018, 11:35:43 PM
Yea but you were warned.

Apathy plus 3pm ko on a Saturday and 8 hour round trip from Kildare heartland. At least 2K Derry supporters showed up.

Yellow card there, Dinny
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Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 09, 2018, 11:48:38 PM
8200 and something in Limerick. 8100 Mayo I would say.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: JoG2 on June 10, 2018, 12:07:20 AM
Owenbeg seemed pretty packed. How many does it hold? Looked like more than that in it.

I'd say the official attendance was fairly undercooked.. A couple of hundred shy of filling the stand in the right hand corner, and a decent crowd in the terrace... Say nought to the taxman though
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 10, 2018, 07:35:01 PM
12,051 in Clones.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: LCohen on June 10, 2018, 07:56:39 PM
12,051 in Clones.

Down with extra man concede the Donegal kick out. Donegal kick shirt it to unmarked man who carries it forward to the 40 metre line where Down defence have assembled. When they encounter the down defence they stop, turn, hand pass it backwards to an unmarked team mate. There then follows 4 sideways hand passes to unmarked team mates.

You have to compete for attendances and viewing figures. The football offering isn't going to cut it
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 10, 2018, 10:13:34 PM
Yea but you were warned.

Apathy plus 3pm ko on a Saturday and 8 hour round trip from Kildare heartland. At least 2K Derry supporters showed up.

Yellow card there, Dinny
BLACK ⬛️

Fair call. The shock of the win.

22000 at the Ulster sem finals this year, 38000 last year.

Expect the worst Leinster final attendance since the 80s.


Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 10, 2018, 10:30:40 PM
Yea but you were warned.

Apathy plus 3pm ko on a Saturday and 8 hour round trip from Kildare heartland. At least 2K Derry supporters showed up.

Yellow card there, Dinny
BLACK ⬛️

Fair call. The shock of the win.

22000 at the Ulster sem finals this year, 38000 last year.

Expect the worst Leinster final attendance since the 80s.

It will be down at 20000 on last year but might beat the 38000 from 2 years ago. There was 81000 at the last final between the 2 teams in 2007,
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 10, 2018, 10:32:21 PM
Expect the worst Leinster final attendance since the 80s.

This, unfortunately, is almost cast-iron guaranteed.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 10, 2018, 10:33:56 PM
What was today's attendance?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: macdanger2 on June 10, 2018, 10:39:46 PM
Expect the worst Leinster final attendance since the 80s.

This, unfortunately, is almost cast-iron guaranteed.

What would be expected? 25k? 30?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 10, 2018, 10:44:53 PM
Expect the worst Leinster final attendance since the 80s.

This, unfortunately, is almost cast-iron guaranteed.

What would be expected? 25k? 30?

Difficult to say (for me), but just picking up on the general sentiments from Dubs themselves I would expect the motivation to attend to be severely lacking, unless the GAA can add value in some way, since the expectation is a foregone conclusion. Somewhere between those two wouldn't seem to be too far off the mark I'd say (25-30K).
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on June 10, 2018, 10:46:11 PM
What was today's attendance?

39K apparently (2 games).
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 10, 2018, 11:29:25 PM
What was today's attendance?

39K apparently (2 games).

That's good going but Carlow brought 10k going on sales and estimates. So say Laois & Longford brought 9k that would leave 20k from Dublin, their support only naturally is way down. Leinster has killed the Goose.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: joemamas on June 10, 2018, 11:54:11 PM
8200 and something in Limerick. 8100 Mayo I would say.

If that number is close to being accurate, then the powers to be are really hoping Mayo make super 8’s.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on June 11, 2018, 01:23:46 AM
What Dublin supporter in his right mind would want to waste money and time going to see that Turkey shoot today! The Leinster final will be no better. I mean it was a waste of good RTE air time showing the game. They could have shown a double bill of some James Bond movie.

Still the GAA need a strong Dublin. That's important! Have to fight away those Soccer and Rugby crowds. Luckily there is none of those worries down the country.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: mup on June 11, 2018, 07:57:59 AM
What Dublin supporter in his right mind would want to waste money and time going to see that Turkey shoot today! The Leinster final will be no better. I mean it was a waste of good RTE air time showing the game. They could have shown a double bill of some James Bond movie.

Still the GAA need a strong Dublin. That's important! Have to fight away those Soccer and Rugby crowds. Luckily there is none of those worries down the country.

I don't feel one bit sorry for the Leinster Council/Gaa with falling attendances. You reap what you sow.

However I would imagine the Super duper 8's will offset this.

So all is good. Nothing to see here.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Hound on June 11, 2018, 09:15:01 AM
What was today's attendance?

39K apparently (2 games).

That's good going but Carlow brought 10k going on sales and estimates. So say Laois & Longford brought 9k that would leave 20k from Dublin, their support only naturally is way down. Leinster has killed the Goose.

Yeah a decent attendance overall, crying out for a bit more entertainment perhaps. Great crowd from Carlow, and stood out even more than usual given everyone else was in blue. A Carlow goal would have great for the atmosphere, but they'd a very good third quarter to put the game right in the melting pot.

Hard to be overly enthusiastic about the final's attendance prospects. Laois have some handy forwards and they'd all need to be on fire to make a match of it.

Someone mentioned the possibility of the worst Leinster final attendance since the 80s. Were the 80s that low? I think the Dublin-Offaly 83 final was my first Leinster final and I seem to remember it as big crowd, certainly a big atmosphere! I wasn't even a teenager so maybe the mind is playing tricks
 
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: highorlow on June 11, 2018, 09:57:29 AM
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I would expect the motivation to attend to be severely lacking, unless the GAA can add value in some way,

They usually call on Aslan for emergencies like this
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on June 12, 2018, 04:42:08 PM
What was the Donegal Down attendance?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 12, 2018, 05:08:58 PM
12,051 in Clones.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on June 12, 2018, 09:03:27 PM
12,051 in Clones.

Ulster council have really shot themselves in the foot this year with increase in prices.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: mayo.mick on June 12, 2018, 11:12:03 PM
8200 and something in Limerick. 8100 Mayo I would say.

8,230 was the attendance given in the gaelic grounds.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 20, 2018, 12:05:34 PM
18,864 in the Hyde last Sunday.
I wonder who were the 6 who didn't turn up?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: sligoman2 on June 20, 2018, 12:35:06 PM
18,864 in the Hyde last Sunday.
I wonder who were the 6 who didn't turn up?

Just hazarding a guess here but it might have been the six Roscommon forwards in the second half... ;) ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Beffs on June 20, 2018, 12:38:39 PM
18,864 in the Hyde last Sunday.
I wonder who were the 6 who didn't turn up?

Just hazarding a guess here but it might have been the six Roscommon forwards in the second half... ;) ;) ;) ;)

Back of the net !  ;D
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 20, 2018, 02:42:30 PM
18,864 in the Hyde last Sunday.
I wonder who were the 6 who didn't turn up?

Just hazarding a guess here but it might have been the six Roscommon forwards in the second half... ;) ;) ;) ;)
If my team conceded 4-24 or so in their last game I'd be keeping very quiet about it here teams shortcomings ;)
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: sligoman2 on June 20, 2018, 05:54:45 PM
Ah lighten up lad, you left the door open and I couldn’t resist...

Very aware of our shortcomings believe me..
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: spuds on June 20, 2018, 09:45:00 PM
Close the thread Rosstan  8).
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 20, 2018, 09:49:53 PM
18,864 in the Hyde last Sunday.
I wonder who were the 6 who didn't turn up?

Just hazarding a guess here but it might have been the six Roscommon forwards in the second half... ;) ;) ;) ;)

Boom
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Plain of the Herbs on June 21, 2018, 09:25:41 PM
Leinster Football final attendances 1980 to 1990 inclusive

1980    50,276
1981    28,398
1982    32,504
1983    36,921
1984    56,051
1985    33,423
1986    43,765
1987    48,122
1988    42,302
1989    56,839
1990    53,847

Someone mentioned the possibility of the worst Leinster final attendance since the 80s. Were the 80s that low? I think the Dublin-Offaly 83 final was my first Leinster final and I seem to remember it as big crowd, certainly a big atmosphere! I wasn't even a teenager so maybe the mind is playing tricks
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 21, 2018, 10:21:48 PM
Leinster Football final attendances 1980 to 1990 inclusive

1980    50,276
1981    28,398
1982    32,504
1983    36,921
1984    56,051
1985    33,423
1986    43,765
1987    48,122
1988    42,302
1989    56,839
1990    53,847

What was Meath and Laois in 1991? I suspect that might be the one of the few occasions it has fallen below 40000 in the last 30 years. Westmeath and Laois in 04 and Dublin Westmeath in 2016 being the other. 2017 was an aberration that won't occur again.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Gael85 on June 21, 2018, 10:59:27 PM
Leinster Football final attendances 1980 to 1990 inclusive

1980    50,276
1981    28,398
1982    32,504
1983    36,921
1984    56,051
1985    33,423
1986    43,765
1987    48,122
1988    42,302
1989    56,839
1990    53,847

What was Meath and Laois in 1991? I suspect that might be the one of the few occasions it has fallen below 40000 in the last 30 years. Westmeath and Laois in 04 and Dublin Westmeath in 2016 being the other. 2017 was an aberration that won't occur again.

28,157
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 21, 2018, 11:02:03 PM
Leinster Football final attendances 1980 to 1990 inclusive

1980    50,276
1981    28,398
1982    32,504
1983    36,921
1984    56,051
1985    33,423
1986    43,765
1987    48,122
1988    42,302
1989    56,839
1990    53,847

What was Meath and Laois in 1991? I suspect that might be the one of the few occasions it has fallen below 40000 in the last 30 years. Westmeath and Laois in 04 and Dublin Westmeath in 2016 being the other. 2017 was an aberration that won't occur again.

28,157

Thanks, I didn't think it would be that low. Of course the 230,000+ who turned up the Meath and Dublin matches would have more than made up for it.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Gael85 on June 21, 2018, 11:08:02 PM
Leinster Football final attendances 1980 to 1990 inclusive

1980    50,276
1981    28,398
1982    32,504
1983    36,921
1984    56,051
1985    33,423
1986    43,765
1987    48,122
1988    42,302
1989    56,839
1990    53,847

What was Meath and Laois in 1991? I suspect that might be the one of the few occasions it has fallen below 40000 in the last 30 years. Westmeath and Laois in 04 and Dublin Westmeath in 2016 being the other. 2017 was an aberration that won't occur again.

28,157

Thanks, I didn't think it would be that low. Of course the 230,000+ who turned up the Meath and Dublin matches would have more than made up for it.

It was played on a Saturday and was Meath 8th Leinster game that year. Westmeath/Laois had attendance 56,449 and replay played following had lower crowd of  38,300. Very unusual crowd was much lower for replay.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on June 22, 2018, 12:21:07 AM
Leinster Football final attendances 1980 to 1990 inclusive

1980    50,276
1981    28,398
1982    32,504
1983    36,921
1984    56,051
1985    33,423
1986    43,765
1987    48,122
1988    42,302
1989    56,839
1990    53,847

What was Meath and Laois in 1991? I suspect that might be the one of the few occasions it has fallen below 40000 in the last 30 years. Westmeath and Laois in 04 and Dublin Westmeath in 2016 being the other. 2017 was an aberration that won't occur again.

28,157

Thanks, I didn't think it would be that low. Of course the 230,000+ who turned up the Meath and Dublin matches would have more than made up for it.
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It was played on a Saturday and was Meath 8th Leinster game that year. Westmeath/Laois had attendance 56,449 and replay played following had lower crowd of  38,300. Very unusual crowd was much lower for replay.

Most clubs would mobilise buses of juveniles etc to Leinster finals but with replay maybe just a week later it can be hard to do it two weeks in a row. Could account for some of the shortfall
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 22, 2018, 09:49:39 AM
Leinster Football final attendances 1980 to 1990 inclusive

1980    50,276
1981    28,398
1982    32,504
1983    36,921
1984    56,051
1985    33,423
1986    43,765
1987    48,122
1988    42,302
1989    56,839
1990    53,847

What was Meath and Laois in 1991? I suspect that might be the one of the few occasions it has fallen below 40000 in the last 30 years. Westmeath and Laois in 04 and Dublin Westmeath in 2016 being the other. 2017 was an aberration that won't occur again.

28,157

Thanks, I didn't think it would be that low. Of course the 230,000+ who turned up the Meath and Dublin matches would have more than made up for it.
y
It was played on a Saturday and was Meath 8th Leinster game that year. Westmeath/Laois had attendance 56,449 and replay played following had lower crowd of  38,300. Very unusual crowd was much lower for replay.

Most clubs would mobilise buses of juveniles etc to Leinster finals but with replay maybe just a week later it can be hard to do it two weeks in a row. Could account for some of the shortfall

Kildare minors also played that day, it was during our well supported days so that would have added for a few thousand as well.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 22, 2018, 09:54:39 AM
Still plenty of tickets available for the Hill, Hogan lower and Cusack lower for the Leinster final. Can't this game breaking 40K. Can't see either the Kildare & Meath Juniors having any support at €35 a ticket.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Plain of the Herbs on June 22, 2018, 05:07:17 PM
The ten lowest Leinster football final attendances on record:-

1957    30,234
1972    30,074
1965    30,000
1968    30,000
1981    28,398
1953    28,240
1991    28,157
1958    27,689
1961    26,836
1959    24,006
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: joemamas on June 22, 2018, 09:24:39 PM
The ten lowest Leinster football final attendances on record:-

1957    30,234
1972    30,074
1965    30,000
1968    30,000
1981    28,398
1953    28,240
1991    28,157
1958    27,689
1961    26,836
1959    24,006

don't forget a lot of those "official attendences" from the 1980's didn't include the supporters climbing over the Hill 16 and all the kids that were lifted over the turnstiles, not to mention cash being taken at the turnstiles.

I was at the 1983 final between Dublin and Offaly, place seemed packed. The official attendance was only 36,900.
Funny math if you ask me.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: joemamas on June 22, 2018, 09:29:12 PM
https://www.sportsfile.com/id/064330/



check out the hill 16 crowd same day
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on June 23, 2018, 09:05:34 AM
Munster Hurling Final officially sold out 24 hours after ticklers went on general sale. All Ireland Final type demand. The GAA must be loving these attendances in the round robin hurling.The Munster Football Final should get close to 40,000 tonight as well.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 23, 2018, 10:46:24 AM
Munster is where it's all at this year.
If you have the "product"......
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 23, 2018, 10:11:53 PM
According to the RTE in-game updates, there were 27,624 at the Kerry/Cork Munster Football Final in Cork tonight.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: SHEEDY on June 23, 2018, 10:31:07 PM
3300 at cavan v down
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 23, 2018, 10:35:55 PM
Less than 2k I'd estimate at Laythrum v Louth.
Luckily a good few of us were there for the minors
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on June 23, 2018, 10:42:55 PM
3300 in Sligo.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: smelmoth on June 23, 2018, 11:24:37 PM
3300 in Sligo.

And very few from Sligo
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 24, 2018, 08:27:07 AM
Decent crowd in Longford, 5-6k I would estimate.

One thing I have noticed, when going bad you see less and less families at the games, just the odd hards.

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on June 24, 2018, 09:52:56 PM
Families follow success.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: seafoid on June 29, 2018, 05:41:16 PM
This is quite interesting

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0629/974141-number-crunching-the-rise-fall-of-provincial-cships/
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: macdanger2 on June 29, 2018, 06:58:25 PM
Kildare v Mayo, 8200
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 29, 2018, 07:03:06 PM
Mayowestros keeping the Qualifiers average up for the 3rd year in a row.
Round 1    26,000     Rhus game 8,230
Round 2    37,000     Rhus game 11,257
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: clonadmad on June 29, 2018, 08:08:21 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/munster-buck-attendance-drops-in-leinster-and-ulster-472372.html
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on June 29, 2018, 09:40:21 PM
Kildare v Mayo, 8200

Poor auld HQ! Big hit on the coffers this weekend! Also losses for the vendors in Croke park, the corporate boxes, not to mention the Pubs along Dorset Street and Drumcondra!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 29, 2018, 09:44:29 PM
Mayowestros keeping the Qualifiers average up for the 3rd year in a row.
Round 1    26,000     Rhus game 8,230
Round 2    37,000     Rhus game 11,257

Half dressed without us
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 29, 2018, 10:02:38 PM
Kildare v Mayo, 8200

Poor auld HQ! Big hit on the coffers this weekend!
No grants going to Kildare in 2019 so :-X
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 29, 2018, 10:09:39 PM
Kildare v Mayo, 8200

Poor auld HQ! Big hit on the coffers this weekend!
No grants going to Kildare in 2019 so :-X

Never get much anyway.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 30, 2018, 03:51:01 PM
Only 4606 in Carrick on Shannon, I thought Monaghan would bring more than that themselves. Bad time on a Saturday I suppose.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on June 30, 2018, 05:09:01 PM
Only 4606 in Carrick on Shannon, I thought Monaghan would bring more than that themselves. Bad time on a Saturday I suppose.

In fairness, it was a done deal of a game. Held at a crazy hour of the day given the recent weather.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 30, 2018, 05:51:42 PM
A 6 or 7pm start would have brought a couple of thousand more.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Solo_run on June 30, 2018, 06:42:13 PM
Heard Armagh v Clare had close to 18k...can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: illdecide on June 30, 2018, 06:54:54 PM
Heard Armagh v Clare had close to 18k...can anyone confirm?

No chance... I'd guess around 6500
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on June 30, 2018, 07:38:19 PM
I'd say 6500 isn't far off.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 01, 2018, 12:01:15 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-44611174
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on July 01, 2018, 10:56:59 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-44611174

Sh1te article, I'd expect no more from the BBC.

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: slippery dodger on July 09, 2018, 07:58:26 AM
Any attendances from weekend
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 09, 2018, 08:10:34 AM
Any attendances from weekend

25,102 at Leinster hurling final replay.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on July 10, 2018, 04:31:09 PM
Small enough turn outs for Round 4 Qualifiers.
I've seen 7,400 (Sat ) and 6,000 (Sun) quoted for Navan and 10,000 for Portlaoise.
I'd guessed around 11k.
Overall the 4 rounds of Qualifiers (24 games) only attracted around 110,000 .
I expect despite their many downsides the Provincial Championships will be staying with us for many a day.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Blowitupref on July 10, 2018, 05:26:48 PM
What are the expected attendances for this weekend in Croke Park? At a guess a little over 60k for Dublin v Donegal and Tyrone v Roscommon and 40K or under for Kildare v Monaghan and Galway v Kerry.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Hound on July 11, 2018, 10:41:12 AM
What are the expected attendances for this weekend in Croke Park? At a guess a little over 60k for Dublin v Donegal and Tyrone v Roscommon and 40K or under for Kildare v Monaghan and Galway v Kerry.
I'd expect more for Saturday. Although timing not ideal. Should be 3.30pm and 5.30pm. Expecting people from Donegal (and Tyrone and Roscommon) to leave Croke Park at 9pm (if stay till end of second game, it would probably be at least 9.30pm by the time you get to your car) for the journey home is wholly unfair, and I'm confused why more isn't made of the timing of Saturday evening matches when teams outside Leinster are involved.

Also hard to understand why Sunday isn't 12pm and 2pm. It would be no hardship asking KE and MN to play at noon (presumably they'd all be fairly used to playing club games at that time).  They will have the bulk of the supporters in any case. I was talking to a Monaghan pal yesterday who said while he'd like to see Kerry v Galway, he'll probably leave after his game to watch the World Cup final. Now, he may well be in a minority, but it will be interesting to see if the crowd thins out after the first game.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: TheClubman on July 11, 2018, 01:29:41 PM
I'd expect Kerry v Galway to be much more entertaining that the World Cup final.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on July 11, 2018, 04:17:54 PM
Sure Laythrum  v Wickla would be more entertaining than socceryball.  ;D
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: sid waddell on July 14, 2018, 09:35:21 PM
10,122 at the hurling today. A knock out All-Ireland hurling quarter-final.

How many will be in the stadium for the Kerry-Galway match tomorrow?

It's not knockout, Kerry are notoriusly poor travellers, Galway not much better in football, Galway have been involved in the hurling for the last two weeks in a row. And I believe there is some other sporting event taking place in Moscow at 4pm tomorrow.

I'd say they'll be doing well to have more than 10k there.

The official attendance will be more, of course, but the majority of those will leave after the first match.

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Gael85 on July 15, 2018, 11:17:42 AM
10,122 at the hurling today. A knock out All-Ireland hurling quarter-final.

How many will be in the stadium for the Kerry-Galway match tomorrow?

It's not knockout, Kerry are notoriusly poor travellers, Galway not much better in football, Galway have been involved in the hurling for the last two weeks in a row. And I believe there is some other sporting event taking place in Moscow at 4pm tomorrow.

I'd say they'll be doing well to have more than 10k there.

The official attendance will be more, of course, but the majority of those will leave after the first match.

Clare/Wexford should have been played in Thurles
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: sid waddell on July 15, 2018, 11:28:59 AM
10,122 at the hurling today. A knock out All-Ireland hurling quarter-final.

How many will be in the stadium for the Kerry-Galway match tomorrow?

It's not knockout, Kerry are notoriusly poor travellers, Galway not much better in football, Galway have been involved in the hurling for the last two weeks in a row. And I believe there is some other sporting event taking place in Moscow at 4pm tomorrow.

I'd say they'll be doing well to have more than 10k there.

The official attendance will be more, of course, but the majority of those will leave after the first match.

Clare/Wexford should have been played in Thurles
I've heard this said quite a lot.

But it doesn't particularly make sense, as it's no easier a drive from Wexford to Thurles than it is from Wexford to Cork, and neither is it much easier of a drive from Clare to Thurles than it is to Cork.

Clare have consistently brought very poor support to Thurles since 2015.



Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: RedHand88 on July 15, 2018, 12:50:18 PM
What was the official attendance yesterday at croke park? Was alot less at it than I expected.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on July 15, 2018, 01:55:18 PM
53k.
As I said before its a 3 games series so the casual fans won't be travelling when they have a home match  ( 2 for Dublin) coming up.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Blowitupref on July 15, 2018, 02:52:04 PM
53k.
As I said before its a 3 games series so the casual fans won't be travelling when they have a home match  ( 2 for Dublin) coming up.

Much lower crowd than i was expected it doesn't say much when this "super 8s" was hyped to the hills and can't get 60k with the Dubs involved. Maybe supporters see it as it is. Group games are not for the last eight stage while knock out football is far more interesting.   
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 15, 2018, 07:02:00 PM
30k in Croke Park today. 763 from Kerry, I counted them I was that bored in the first half of their game.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: sligoman2 on July 15, 2018, 07:03:02 PM
53k.
As I said before its a 3 games series so the casual fans won't be travelling when they have a home match  ( 2 for Dublin) coming up.

Much lower crowd than i was expected it doesn't say much when this "super 8s" was hyped to the hills and can't get 60k with the Dubs involved. Maybe supporters see it as it is. Group games are not for the last eight stage while knock out football is far more interesting.   

Or maybe people aren’t willing to pay good money to watch 5,000 handpasses and keep ball.  I’m really disappointed and worried about what football has become.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Hound on July 16, 2018, 12:40:44 PM
53k.
As I said before its a 3 games series so the casual fans won't be travelling when they have a home match  ( 2 for Dublin) coming up.

Much lower crowd than i was expected it doesn't say much when this "super 8s" was hyped to the hills and can't get 60k with the Dubs involved. Maybe supporters see it as it is. Group games are not for the last eight stage while knock out football is far more interesting.   
Rossies had reasonably big numbers, but Tyrone support seemed much smaller than a few years back. I'd say most of the Donegal support were home based.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Unlaoised on July 16, 2018, 03:42:59 PM
Tyrone had small numbers in portlaoise v Cork as well compared to recent years....

Monagahan and Kildare made up 20000 of that crowd yesterday id say there wasny 600 from Kerry there .

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 16, 2018, 03:46:17 PM
How many were in CP for yesterday games?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rois on July 16, 2018, 03:49:33 PM

Rossies had reasonably big numbers, but Tyrone support seemed much smaller than a few years back. I'd say most of the Donegal support were home based.
One factor was probably the weekend that was in it - it was the weekend of the 12th July, don't underestimate the number of people in the north who head off somewhere foreign or at least further west or south, with two bank holidays on Thurs and Fri.  Had the game been on Sunday, it might have been different. 
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: omagh_gael on July 16, 2018, 03:51:41 PM
Low Tyrone numbers probably due to the fact of having away games in Meath, Carlow, Enniskillen and Portlaoise in the weeks before the super8s. Add into the mix that this game had the least appeal out of our three and the next two games are at home and just up the road in Donegal.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: SkillfulBill on July 16, 2018, 04:18:30 PM
Low Tyrone numbers probably due to the fact of having away games in Meath, Carlow, Enniskillen and Portlaoise in the weeks before the super8s. Add into the mix that this game had the least appeal out of our three and the next two games are at home and just up the road in Donegal.

Tyrone low numbers are due to a general apathy towards the county set up the last few years. But if the Roscommon game is an indication of a return to an attacking style of play the numbers will start to build again.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on July 16, 2018, 04:24:28 PM
People are budgeting! This super 8's lark is both time and financially consuming.

We are in the middle of Summer Holidays and family time has to be taken care of.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on July 16, 2018, 05:43:18 PM
How many were in CP for yesterday games?

30k
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 21, 2018, 09:13:58 PM
16k in Omagh. Thought this game was sold out?


Super 8s not working out.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: inthrough on July 21, 2018, 09:17:57 PM
16k in Omagh. Thought this game was sold out?


Super 8s not working out.

Super 8's working out just fine. Every game doesn't have to be a sell out.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 21, 2018, 09:27:15 PM
16k in Omagh. Thought this game was sold out?


Super 8s not working out.

Super 8's working out just fine. Every game doesn't have to be a sell out.

Eh! There will be less than 20k tomorrow between both games, you need big crowds, sense of occasion and €€€.

It's not reaching its KPIs.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: inthrough on July 21, 2018, 09:40:01 PM
16k in Omagh. Thought this game was sold out?


Super 8s not working out.

Super 8's working out just fine. Every game doesn't have to be a sell out.

Eh! There will be less than 20k tomorrow between both games, you need big crowds, sense of occasion and €€€.

It's not reaching its KPIs.

KPIs eh?  I will bet you anything you like there will be a lot more than 20k at tomorrow's games.

This evening's game in Omagh had a big crowd, a sense of occasion & I'll bet it made money.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 21, 2018, 09:55:36 PM
16k in Omagh. Thought this game was sold out?


Super 8s not working out.

Super 8's working out just fine. Every game doesn't have to be a sell out.

Eh! There will be less than 20k tomorrow between both games, you need big crowds, sense of occasion and €€€.

It's not reaching its KPIs.

KPIs eh?  I will bet you anything you like there will be a lot more than 20k at tomorrow's games.

This evening's game in Omagh had a big crowd, a sense of occasion & I'll bet it made money.

Will need more than 11,800 to turn up in Clones, Kerry mightn't bring more than 2k so will need around 10k Monaghan fans to turn up which will be possible but not guaranteed.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: inthrough on July 21, 2018, 10:13:37 PM
16k in Omagh. Thought this game was sold out?


Super 8s not working out.

Super 8's working out just fine. Every game doesn't have to be a sell out.

Eh! There will be less than 20k tomorrow between both games, you need big crowds, sense of occasion and €€€.

It's not reaching its KPIs.

KPIs eh?  I will bet you anything you like there will be a lot more than 20k at tomorrow's games.

This evening's game in Omagh had a big crowd, a sense of occasion & I'll bet it made money.

Will need more than 11,800 to turn up in Clones, Kerry mightn't bring more than 2k so will need around 10k Monaghan fans to turn up which will be possible but not guaranteed.
I'd say quite a number of neutrals will turn up for this & I can assure you that there will be 15,000+ Monaghan supporters there.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on July 21, 2018, 10:16:20 PM
16k in Omagh. Thought this game was sold out?


Super 8s not working out.

Super 8's working out just fine. Every game doesn't have to be a sell out.

Eh! There will be less than 20k tomorrow between both games, you need big crowds, sense of occasion and €€€.

It's not reaching its KPIs.

KPIs eh?  I will bet you anything you like there will be a lot more than 20k at tomorrow's games.

This evening's game in Omagh had a big crowd, a sense of occasion & I'll bet it made money.

Will need more than 11,800 to turn up in Clones, Kerry mightn't bring more than 2k so will need around 10k Monaghan fans to turn up which will be possible but not guaranteed.
I'd say quite a number of neutrals will turn up for this & I can assure you that there will be 15,000+ Monaghan supporters there.

Would be good to see, there didn't seem to me to be as much Monaghan fans in Croke Park last week in comparison to the last 12 in 2017 when they travelled well. Could be a case of fans waiting for the glamour home game. Tails are up too.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on July 22, 2018, 04:41:14 PM
16k in Omagh. Thought this game was sold out?


Super 8s not working out.

The Dubs proving again they have a great travelling support and will travel the country to support their team. Where were all the Tyrone supporters?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Redhand Santa on July 22, 2018, 04:46:56 PM
Tyrone had the majority support. Other than behind one goal there wasn’t many dubs elsewhere on the terrace. I’d say it was 10k Tyrone, 6k dubs. Still a great travelling support. It was sold out so I’m guessing capacity was 16.5k, though there seemed to be more there than that.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on July 22, 2018, 05:22:25 PM
Tyrone had the majority support. Other than behind one goal there wasn’t many dubs elsewhere on the terrace. I’d say it was 10k Tyrone, 6k dubs. Still a great travelling support. It was sold out so I’m guessing capacity was 16.5k, though there seemed to be more there than that.

Well done to the 6k Dubs who gave up their Saturday to go to the match. They deserve great credit and proves once again they have the most loyal followers in the country who are not afraid to give up their free time en masse.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 22, 2018, 06:39:32 PM
Tyrone had the majority support. Other than behind one goal there wasn’t many dubs elsewhere on the terrace. I’d say it was 10k Tyrone, 6k dubs. Still a great travelling support. It was sold out so I’m guessing capacity was 16.5k, though there seemed to be more there than that.

Well done to the 6k Dubs who gave up their Saturday to go to the match. They deserve great credit and proves once again they have the most loyal followers in the country who are not afraid to give up their free time en masse.

6k? 30k in CP last Sunday avg of 7.5k per county. Can we put to death now the myth Dublin supporters travel, I can honestly never remember being outnumbered by Dublin fans at underage games either. The bean counters have many reasons to keep Dublin at home.

2k at the Leinster Minor final Sat.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on July 22, 2018, 07:04:48 PM
Tyrone had the majority support. Other than behind one goal there wasn’t many dubs elsewhere on the terrace. I’d say it was 10k Tyrone, 6k dubs. Still a great travelling support. It was sold out so I’m guessing capacity was 16.5k, though there seemed to be more there than that.

Well done to the 6k Dubs who gave up their Saturday to go to the match. They deserve great credit and proves once again they have the most loyal followers in the country who are not afraid to give up their free time en masse.

6k? 30k in CP last Sunday avg of 7.5k per county. Can we put to death now the myth Dublin supporters travel, I can honestly never remember being outnumbered by Dublin fans at underage games either. The bean counters have many reasons to keep Dublin at home.

2k at the Leinster Minor final Sat.

In fairness many Dubs would have been working on Saturday and Summertime is busy with family commitments! Dublin to Clones is a journey of about 1 hour 40 minutes. It is hard to expect a county to travel a round trip of 3 hours in large numbers on a Saturday evening.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on July 22, 2018, 07:12:56 PM
Tyrone had the majority support. Other than behind one goal there wasn’t many dubs elsewhere on the terrace. I’d say it was 10k Tyrone, 6k dubs. Still a great travelling support. It was sold out so I’m guessing capacity was 16.5k, though there seemed to be more there than that.

Well done to the 6k Dubs who gave up their Saturday to go to the match. They deserve great credit and proves once again they have the most loyal followers in the country who are not afraid to give up their free time en masse.

6k? 30k in CP last Sunday avg of 7.5k per county. Can we put to death now the myth Dublin supporters travel, I can honestly never remember being outnumbered by Dublin fans at underage games either. The bean counters have many reasons to keep Dublin at home.

2k at the Leinster Minor final Sat.

In fairness many Dubs would have been working on Saturday and Summertime is busy with family commitments! Dublin to Clones is a journey of about 1 hour 40 minutes. It is hard to expect a county to travel a round trip of 3 hours in large numbers on a Saturday evening.


Omagh but you think their 1st championship game away in 12 years would have meant something. 3 home games left for the bean counters.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on July 22, 2018, 07:23:24 PM
Tyrone had the majority support. Other than behind one goal there wasn’t many dubs elsewhere on the terrace. I’d say it was 10k Tyrone, 6k dubs. Still a great travelling support. It was sold out so I’m guessing capacity was 16.5k, though there seemed to be more there than that.

Well done to the 6k Dubs who gave up their Saturday to go to the match. They deserve great credit and proves once again they have the most loyal followers in the country who are not afraid to give up their free time en masse.

6k? 30k in CP last Sunday avg of 7.5k per county. Can we put to death now the myth Dublin supporters travel, I can honestly never remember being outnumbered by Dublin fans at underage games either. The bean counters have many reasons to keep Dublin at home.

2k at the Leinster Minor final Sat.

In fairness many Dubs would have been working on Saturday and Summertime is busy with family commitments! Dublin to Clones is a journey of about 1 hour 40 minutes. It is hard to expect a county to travel a round trip of 3 hours in large numbers on a Saturday evening.


Omagh but you think their 1st championship game away in 12 years would have meant something. 3 home games left for the bean counters.

The Habit is home games and that habit is hard to break. Many have never seen a Gaelic match outside Croke Park, never! Feck many think of Croker like going to see the international matches in the Aviva! Blue/Green man comes to mind! Sure many of the Hill wave Tri-colours. As if they are playing a team from a foreign country (and before you say it I'm not talking about the 6). How many supporters does a half Hill hold? 6K?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on July 22, 2018, 07:53:38 PM
9,582 as far as I could make out from the donly PA in the Hyde yesterday.
60%+ from Donegal :-\
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on July 22, 2018, 08:52:32 PM
9,582 as far as I could make out from the donly PA in the Hyde yesterday.
60%+ from Donegal :-\
There will be a sell out crowd in Croke Park next week for the Dubs second home game! I expect the Rossies to have a big contingent as we all know counties love to see their team playing in Croke Park against the Dubs! It will be such a special occasion.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: inthrough on July 22, 2018, 09:05:44 PM
Tyrone had the majority support. Other than behind one goal there wasn’t many dubs elsewhere on the terrace. I’d say it was 10k Tyrone, 6k dubs. Still a great travelling support. It was sold out so I’m guessing capacity was 16.5k, though there seemed to be more there than that.

Well done to the 6k Dubs who gave up their Saturday to go to the match. They deserve great credit and proves once again they have the most loyal followers in the country who are not afraid to give up their free time en masse.

6k? 30k in CP last Sunday avg of 7.5k per county. Can we put to death now the myth Dublin supporters travel, I can honestly never remember being outnumbered by Dublin fans at underage games either. The bean counters have many reasons to keep Dublin at home.

2k at the Leinster Minor final Sat.

In fairness many Dubs would have been working on Saturday and Summertime is busy with family commitments! Dublin to Clones is a journey of about 1 hour 40 minutes. It is hard to expect a county to travel a round trip of 3 hours in large numbers on a Saturday evening.
They had no problem expecting Donegal fans to do twice the distance last weekend.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on July 22, 2018, 09:10:21 PM
Tyrone had the majority support. Other than behind one goal there wasn’t many dubs elsewhere on the terrace. I’d say it was 10k Tyrone, 6k dubs. Still a great travelling support. It was sold out so I’m guessing capacity was 16.5k, though there seemed to be more there than that.

Well done to the 6k Dubs who gave up their Saturday to go to the match. They deserve great credit and proves once again they have the most loyal followers in the country who are not afraid to give up their free time en masse.

6k? 30k in CP last Sunday avg of 7.5k per county. Can we put to death now the myth Dublin supporters travel, I can honestly never remember being outnumbered by Dublin fans at underage games either. The bean counters have many reasons to keep Dublin at home.

2k at the Leinster Minor final Sat.

In fairness many Dubs would have been working on Saturday and Summertime is busy with family commitments! Dublin to Clones is a journey of about 1 hour 40 minutes. It is hard to expect a county to travel a round trip of 3 hours in large numbers on a Saturday evening.
They had no problem expecting Donegal fans to do twice the distance last weekend.

In fairness, Donegal fans are used to travelling long distances and we all know that playing Dublin in Croke Park is one of the ambitions of any county player.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on July 23, 2018, 02:34:35 PM
Anyone hear the official figures for Clones?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: spuds on July 23, 2018, 02:39:10 PM
Anyone hear the official figures for Clones?
17,022
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: spuds on July 23, 2018, 02:48:03 PM
A nothing sort of question, if Galway Monaghan game was fixed for Tuam instead of Salthill Sunday week how much of a difference in attendance?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Duine Eile on July 23, 2018, 03:02:42 PM
A nothing sort of question, if Galway Monaghan game was fixed for Tuam instead of Salthill Sunday week how much of a difference in attendance?

Tuam is less than ten thousand now, Salthill holds about 25,000 I think
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: dublin7 on July 23, 2018, 03:09:32 PM
Tyrone had the majority support. Other than behind one goal there wasn’t many dubs elsewhere on the terrace. I’d say it was 10k Tyrone, 6k dubs. Still a great travelling support. It was sold out so I’m guessing capacity was 16.5k, though there seemed to be more there than that.

Well done to the 6k Dubs who gave up their Saturday to go to the match. They deserve great credit and proves once again they have the most loyal followers in the country who are not afraid to give up their free time en masse.

6k? 30k in CP last Sunday avg of 7.5k per county. Can we put to death now the myth Dublin supporters travel, I can honestly never remember being outnumbered by Dublin fans at underage games either. The bean counters have many reasons to keep Dublin at home.

2k at the Leinster Minor final Sat.

In fairness many Dubs would have been working on Saturday and Summertime is busy with family commitments! Dublin to Clones is a journey of about 1 hour 40 minutes. It is hard to expect a county to travel a round trip of 3 hours in large numbers on a Saturday evening.

Why go to Clones from Dublin when the game was in Omagh??. Also the ground was sold out so how exactly did you expect more Dublin supporters to get in???

You don't seem to realise how hard it is following Dublin all around the country. Not only do you have all the costs with travelling, but then you have the additional expenses for celebrating the all Ireland & league victories as well!!! That doesn't even include the opportunity cost for taking a days holiday for the now traditional all ireland celebrations after b̶e̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶m̶a̶y̶o winning (obviously dubs can't beat mayo this year :o)
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on July 23, 2018, 03:34:45 PM
Tyrone had the majority support. Other than behind one goal there wasn’t many dubs elsewhere on the terrace. I’d say it was 10k Tyrone, 6k dubs. Still a great travelling support. It was sold out so I’m guessing capacity was 16.5k, though there seemed to be more there than that.

Well done to the 6k Dubs who gave up their Saturday to go to the match. They deserve great credit and proves once again they have the most loyal followers in the country who are not afraid to give up their free time en masse.

6k? 30k in CP last Sunday avg of 7.5k per county. Can we put to death now the myth Dublin supporters travel, I can honestly never remember being outnumbered by Dublin fans at underage games either. The bean counters have many reasons to keep Dublin at home.

2k at the Leinster Minor final Sat.

In fairness many Dubs would have been working on Saturday and Summertime is busy with family commitments! Dublin to Clones is a journey of about 1 hour 40 minutes. It is hard to expect a county to travel a round trip of 3 hours in large numbers on a Saturday evening.

Why go to Clones from Dublin when the game was in Omagh??. Also the ground was sold out so how exactly did you expect more Dublin supporters to get in???

You don't seem to realise how hard it is following Dublin all around the country. Not only do you have all the costs with travelling, but then you have the additional expenses for celebrating the all Ireland & league victories as well!!! That doesn't even include the opportunity cost for taking a days holiday for the now traditional all ireland celebrations after b̶e̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶m̶a̶y̶o winning (obviously dubs can't beat mayo this year :o)

You have big cost on you with three home games coming up! How much is a return trip on the LUAS to those games? Home game after home game! 12 years since ye played a game away from home. 12 years! Imagine 12 years since ye played a game away from home. Has it ever happened in any other team sport? Ye are just the financially doped, funded and babyset county of the GAA!

One blessing this year is that the dirty C***s in HQ got no Mayo super 8 money!



Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: dublin7 on July 23, 2018, 03:37:24 PM
Tyrone had the majority support. Other than behind one goal there wasn’t many dubs elsewhere on the terrace. I’d say it was 10k Tyrone, 6k dubs. Still a great travelling support. It was sold out so I’m guessing capacity was 16.5k, though there seemed to be more there than that.

Well done to the 6k Dubs who gave up their Saturday to go to the match. They deserve great credit and proves once again they have the most loyal followers in the country who are not afraid to give up their free time en masse.

6k? 30k in CP last Sunday avg of 7.5k per county. Can we put to death now the myth Dublin supporters travel, I can honestly never remember being outnumbered by Dublin fans at underage games either. The bean counters have many reasons to keep Dublin at home.

2k at the Leinster Minor final Sat.

In fairness many Dubs would have been working on Saturday and Summertime is busy with family commitments! Dublin to Clones is a journey of about 1 hour 40 minutes. It is hard to expect a county to travel a round trip of 3 hours in large numbers on a Saturday evening.

Why go to Clones from Dublin when the game was in Omagh??. Also the ground was sold out so how exactly did you expect more Dublin supporters to get in???

You don't seem to realise how hard it is following Dublin all around the country. Not only do you have all the costs with travelling, but then you have the additional expenses for celebrating the all Ireland & league victories as well!!! That doesn't even include the opportunity cost for taking a days holiday for the now traditional all ireland celebrations after b̶e̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶m̶a̶y̶o winning (obviously dubs can't beat mayo this year :o)

You have big cost on you with three home games coming up! How much is a return trip on the LUAS to those games? Home game after home game! 12 years since ye played a game away from home. 12 years! Imagine 12 years since ye played a game away from home. Has it ever happened in any other team sport? Ye are just the financially doped, funded and babyset county of the GAA!

One blessing this year is that the dirty C***s in HQ got no Mayo super 8 money!

But you're not bitter ;D ;D
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: TheGreatest on July 23, 2018, 03:40:39 PM
Wasting your time Dublin7. Let them have their moans.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: spuds on July 23, 2018, 04:05:34 PM
A nothing sort of question, if Galway Monaghan game was fixed for Tuam instead of Salthill Sunday week how much of a difference in attendance?

Tuam is less than ten thousand now, Salthill holds about 25,000 I think
All things being equal Tuam would pull the bigger crowd?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Duine Eile on July 23, 2018, 04:27:01 PM
A nothing sort of question, if Galway Monaghan game was fixed for Tuam instead of Salthill Sunday week how much of a difference in attendance?

Tuam is less than ten thousand now, Salthill holds about 25,000 I think
All things being equal Tuam would pull the bigger crowd?

For Galway Monaghan? I'd say we'll see a decent crowd in Salthill for that, the bandwagon is fairly filling up the last couple of games. Tuam is just about able to take a league match on its current state, serious lack of facilities which in fairness are beginning to be addressed, new dressing rooms under construction at the minute. Mind you, it would make life a lot easier if it was in Tuam, Salthill on a bank holiday Saturday at the end of race week, going to be brutal traffic wise  ::)
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on July 23, 2018, 05:11:12 PM
9,853  Official attendance in the Hyde.

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on July 23, 2018, 06:58:30 PM
Tyrone had the majority support. Other than behind one goal there wasn’t many dubs elsewhere on the terrace. I’d say it was 10k Tyrone, 6k dubs. Still a great travelling support. It was sold out so I’m guessing capacity was 16.5k, though there seemed to be more there than that.

Well done to the 6k Dubs who gave up their Saturday to go to the match. They deserve great credit and proves once again they have the most loyal followers in the country who are not afraid to give up their free time en masse.

6k? 30k in CP last Sunday avg of 7.5k per county. Can we put to death now the myth Dublin supporters travel, I can honestly never remember being outnumbered by Dublin fans at underage games either. The bean counters have many reasons to keep Dublin at home.

2k at the Leinster Minor final Sat.

In fairness many Dubs would have been working on Saturday and Summertime is busy with family commitments! Dublin to Clones is a journey of about 1 hour 40 minutes. It is hard to expect a county to travel a round trip of 3 hours in large numbers on a Saturday evening.

Why go to Clones from Dublin when the game was in Omagh??. Also the ground was sold out so how exactly did you expect more Dublin supporters to get in???

You don't seem to realise how hard it is following Dublin all around the country. Not only do you have all the costs with travelling, but then you have the additional expenses for celebrating the all Ireland & league victories as well!!! That doesn't even include the opportunity cost for taking a days holiday for the now traditional all ireland celebrations after b̶e̶a̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶m̶a̶y̶o winning (obviously dubs can't beat mayo this year :o)

You have big cost on you with three home games coming up! How much is a return trip on the LUAS to those games? Home game after home game! 12 years since ye played a game away from home. 12 years! Imagine 12 years since ye played a game away from home. Has it ever happened in any other team sport? Ye are just the financially doped, funded and babyset county of the GAA!

One blessing this year is that the dirty C***s in HQ got no Mayo super 8 money!

But you're not bitter ;D ;D

Thankfully not anymore. I learned (the hard way) that there is one rule in regards travelling to matches for Dublin Supporters and another rule for all the rest. By the looks of it, more are seeing the light!

Anyway enjoy sucking off the HQ tit!  ;D
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: trailer on July 23, 2018, 07:21:32 PM
I was surprised at the capacity of Healy Park (16.5K). Obviously it has been capped but it could easily have fitted in another 2-3k. There was a good bit of space where we were stood. I thought I remembered it holding 20k. Maybe not.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: tippabu on July 23, 2018, 09:03:34 PM
Tyrone had the majority support. Other than behind one goal there wasn’t many dubs elsewhere on the terrace. I’d say it was 10k Tyrone, 6k dubs. Still a great travelling support. It was sold out so I’m guessing capacity was 16.5k, though there seemed to be more there than that.

Well done to the 6k Dubs who gave up their Saturday to go to the match. They deserve great credit and proves once again they have the most loyal followers in the country who are not afraid to give up their free time en masse.

6k? 30k in CP last Sunday avg of 7.5k per county. Can we put to death now the myth Dublin supporters travel, I can honestly never remember being outnumbered by Dublin fans at underage games either. The bean counters have many reasons to keep Dublin at home.

2k at the Leinster Minor final Sat.

Remember when we played them in tullamore in the under 21 ai semi, it was a 50/50 split of Dublin and tipp fans....this is the self proclaimed best supporters and we will travel anywhere brigade against a county who are called out time and time again about low attendances and lack of support. Alot of the Dublin fans are Dublin senior football fans, they don't bother with underage, club, hurling. Look they had a very good support up in omagh and all reports were great craic, I'd have loved to see what would have travelled to a bigger ground that wouldn't have been at capacity. Surely Dublin supporters will be urging next year's "Croke park" super 8s games to be changed to neutral, real novelty for them travelling, having the craic and drinks in a new town, seeing you get brilliant atmospheres with small crowds in good venues and actually being allowed on the pitch after and get to meet the players
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: dublin7 on July 23, 2018, 09:30:23 PM
Tyrone had the majority support. Other than behind one goal there wasn’t many dubs elsewhere on the terrace. I’d say it was 10k Tyrone, 6k dubs. Still a great travelling support. It was sold out so I’m guessing capacity was 16.5k, though there seemed to be more there than that.

Well done to the 6k Dubs who gave up their Saturday to go to the match. They deserve great credit and proves once again they have the most loyal followers in the country who are not afraid to give up their free time en masse.

6k? 30k in CP last Sunday avg of 7.5k per county. Can we put to death now the myth Dublin supporters travel, I can honestly never remember being outnumbered by Dublin fans at underage games either. The bean counters have many reasons to keep Dublin at home.

2k at the Leinster Minor final Sat.

Remember when we played them in tullamore in the under 21 ai semi, it was a 50/50 split of Dublin and tipp fans....this is the self proclaimed best supporters and we will travel anywhere brigade against a county who are called out time and time again about low attendances and lack of support. Alot of the Dublin fans are Dublin senior football fans, they don't bother with underage, club, hurling. Look they had a very good support up in omagh and all reports were great craic, I'd have loved to see what would have travelled to a bigger ground that wouldn't have been at capacity. Surely Dublin supporters will be urging next year's "Croke park" super 8s games to be changed to neutral, real novelty for them travelling, having the craic and drinks in a new town, seeing you get brilliant atmospheres with small crowds in good venues and actually being allowed on the pitch after and get to meet the players

That's a valid, reasonable point so expect ridicule from dub's biggest fan - From the Bunker. If Cork had beaten Tyrone in the qualifier you would have seen a huge dublin crowd go down for the weekend. I'd say the hotels and B&Bs were disgusted.  I had a place booked for the weekend(and I'm sure many others did as well) Given the poor support the cork footballers get there probably would have been more dubs at it thanks cork fans!!

Even league games the dubs get great support. In castlebar earlier in the year there was a huge dublin crowd travelled down for the game. I do believe I seen From the Bunker there as I remember seeing a drunk old man after the game stumbling down the street giving out about the dubs.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Gael85 on July 23, 2018, 09:40:07 PM
Tyrone had the majority support. Other than behind one goal there wasn’t many dubs elsewhere on the terrace. I’d say it was 10k Tyrone, 6k dubs. Still a great travelling support. It was sold out so I’m guessing capacity was 16.5k, though there seemed to be more there than that.

Well done to the 6k Dubs who gave up their Saturday to go to the match. They deserve great credit and proves once again they have the most loyal followers in the country who are not afraid to give up their free time en masse.

6k? 30k in CP last Sunday avg of 7.5k per county. Can we put to death now the myth Dublin supporters travel, I can honestly never remember being outnumbered by Dublin fans at underage games either. The bean counters have many reasons to keep Dublin at home.

2k at the Leinster Minor final Sat.

Remember when we played them in tullamore in the under 21 ai semi, it was a 50/50 split of Dublin and tipp fans....this is the self proclaimed best supporters and we will travel anywhere brigade against a county who are called out time and time again about low attendances and lack of support. Alot of the Dublin fans are Dublin senior football fans, they don't bother with underage, club, hurling. Look they had a very good support up in omagh and all reports were great craic, I'd have loved to see what would have travelled to a bigger ground that wouldn't have been at capacity. Surely Dublin supporters will be urging next year's "Croke park" super 8s games to be changed to neutral, real novelty for them travelling, having the craic and drinks in a new town, seeing you get brilliant atmospheres with small crowds in good venues and actually being allowed on the pitch after and get to meet the players

That's a valid, reasonable point so expect ridicule from dub's biggest fan - From the Bunker. If Cork had beaten Tyrone in the qualifier you would have seen a huge dublin crowd go down for the weekend. I'd say the hotels and B&Bs were disgusted.  I had a place booked for the weekend(and I'm sure many others did as well) Given the poor support the cork footballers get there probably would have been more dubs at it thanks cork fans!!

Even league games the dubs get great support. In castlebar earlier in the year there was a huge dublin crowd travelled down for the game. I do believe I seen From the Bunker there as I remember seeing a drunk old man after the game stumbling down the street giving out about the dubs.

We don't get the best support at minor/u21 now u20 level. There was a full round of juvenile/adult fixtures on same day as that Tipp game in 2015. County Board should have called off all games at the time. Majority of supporters would be associated with clubs. You always have a few hangers on. Think that applies to all counties.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: tippabu on July 23, 2018, 09:55:47 PM
Tyrone had the majority support. Other than behind one goal there wasn’t many dubs elsewhere on the terrace. I’d say it was 10k Tyrone, 6k dubs. Still a great travelling support. It was sold out so I’m guessing capacity was 16.5k, though there seemed to be more there than that.

Well done to the 6k Dubs who gave up their Saturday to go to the match. They deserve great credit and proves once again they have the most loyal followers in the country who are not afraid to give up their free time en masse.

6k? 30k in CP last Sunday avg of 7.5k per county. Can we put to death now the myth Dublin supporters travel, I can honestly never remember being outnumbered by Dublin fans at underage games either. The bean counters have many reasons to keep Dublin at home.

2k at the Leinster Minor final Sat.

Remember when we played them in tullamore in the under 21 ai semi, it was a 50/50 split of Dublin and tipp fans....this is the self proclaimed best supporters and we will travel anywhere brigade against a county who are called out time and time again about low attendances and lack of support. Alot of the Dublin fans are Dublin senior football fans, they don't bother with underage, club, hurling. Look they had a very good support up in omagh and all reports were great craic, I'd have loved to see what would have travelled to a bigger ground that wouldn't have been at capacity. Surely Dublin supporters will be urging next year's "Croke park" super 8s games to be changed to neutral, real novelty for them travelling, having the craic and drinks in a new town, seeing you get brilliant atmospheres with small crowds in good venues and actually being allowed on the pitch after and get to meet the players

That's a valid, reasonable point so expect ridicule from dub's biggest fan - From the Bunker. If Cork had beaten Tyrone in the qualifier you would have seen a huge dublin crowd go down for the weekend. I'd say the hotels and B&Bs were disgusted.  I had a place booked for the weekend(and I'm sure many others did as well) Given the poor support the cork footballers get there probably would have been more dubs at it thanks cork fans!!

Even league games the dubs get great support. In castlebar earlier in the year there was a huge dublin crowd travelled down for the game. I do believe I seen From the Bunker there as I remember seeing a drunk old man after the game stumbling down the street giving out about the dubs.

We don't get the best support at minor/u21 now u20 level. There was a full round of juvenile/adult fixtures on same day as that Tipp game in 2015. County Board should have called off all games at the time. Majority of supporters would be associated with clubs. You always have a few hangers on. Think that applies to all counties.

Im basing that off a small majority tbf, i know a good few who'd always be on the hill and often gone to the handball with them and the ones i know and the people theyd always go to games with have no involvement or even interest in dublin club football. These would be lads who'd have gone to O'Byrne cup and league games home and away. Take the point that it applies to all counties id just apply it more myself from the perspective of watching dublin club games on tv, april for example and some great looking games poorly attended compared to the numbers that go to dubs games. An assumption on my behalf
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: snoopdog on July 25, 2018, 03:11:35 PM
Its easy to have great support when your winning. Look at us arent we great. Worse than liverpool celtic and ireland fans declaring your own greatness.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 04, 2018, 10:47:47 PM
For the games today.

17,935 in Killarney
15,200 in Salthill
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on August 11, 2018, 05:44:43 PM
Poor enough attendance in Croke Park, there might be as many tomorrow.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on August 11, 2018, 05:46:45 PM
Poor enough attendance in Croke Park, there might be as many tomorrow.

54k. Per population Dublin are brutally supported. The GAA have killed their own cash cow.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 11, 2018, 05:51:22 PM
Very poor Galway crowd here
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on August 11, 2018, 05:51:34 PM
Poor enough attendance in Croke Park, there might be as many tomorrow.

54k. Per population Dublin are brutally supported. The GAA have killed their own cash cow.

Galway nothing special either.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Blowitupref on August 11, 2018, 05:52:42 PM
Poor enough attendance in Croke Park, there might be as many tomorrow.

54k. Per population Dublin are brutally supported. The GAA have killed their own cash cow.

I can't recall the last time that Dublin had less than 80K at All Ireland semi final.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: trileacman on August 11, 2018, 05:54:21 PM
Poor enough attendance in Croke Park, there might be as many tomorrow.

54k. Per population Dublin are brutally supported. The GAA have killed their own cash cow.

Agreed. Wonder will they have a super 4 after the super 8s to boost the coffers next year.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 11, 2018, 05:55:42 PM
Dubs still in the pub after watching premier league
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: snoopdog on August 11, 2018, 06:21:56 PM
Dubs still in the pub after watching premier league
They cant be bothered turning up for a semi final anymore. The GAA cash cow is drying up. They will need to invest another few million. Maybe get the fans a sposored car.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on August 11, 2018, 06:25:20 PM
People would turn up if there was competition and doubts over who might win  -like the hurley
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Solo_run on August 11, 2018, 06:40:42 PM
Poor enough attendance in Croke Park, there might be as many tomorrow.

54k. Per population Dublin are brutally supported. The GAA have killed their own cash cow.

Galway nothing special either.

From what I could see relatively tame Galway support
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: sans pessimism on August 11, 2018, 07:12:28 PM
Poor enough attendance in Croke Park, there might be as many tomorrow.

54k. Per population Dublin are brutally supported. The GAA have killed their own cash cow.

Galway nothing special either.

From what I could see relatively tame Galway support
Galway have always been sunshinish supporters
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on August 11, 2018, 07:22:29 PM
Sure I know 3 or 4 lads myself that chose to go to the hurling next week instead of the football today. That and the creeping inevitability that Dublin were going to win anyway hit the attendance.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Aaron Boone on August 12, 2018, 12:00:36 AM
I think Sunday Bloody Sunday will beat the Dubs paltry 54k last night.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on August 12, 2018, 12:20:32 AM
Is there a way of parachuting Mayo into an AI Semi final? That'd get the crowds up. We could build up the hype by saying Mayo teams don't throw in the towel like the fancy Dan's and ignore how sh1te they were in the League and Championship in 2018. Just live off past glories from the last half decade.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: cjx on August 12, 2018, 01:18:19 AM
Take Tyrone They can draw on 100000
 for their team due to sectarian division
Dublin CSO/Irl pop est 2018 is 1.35m
Estimates of GAA investments per member
for development etc. in Dublin are five times
higher than the other Counties like Tyrone
So Dub potential playing pop 13.5 times Tyrone the
investment factor multiples that by 5 
Ie. Dub overall advantage in resources is
13.5x5=67.5 to 1 for Tyrone.
 Other Counties have a lots worse resource
 disadvantage than Tyrone
using this formulae to give a rough idea of comparability
So Dubs win everything play keep ball
Result total boredom no money
Croke Park sold to U2 and rugby and GAA withers
GAA HQ Thurles hurling best game in world
well played in 10 Counties at best lives on
dull boring drunken Dub supporter dominated
football dies
Do we want this? Maybe
But let's have one last try to balance the resources and
effort around the Country stopping media creation Dublin domination
and get back to club roots
Let's make the money work for the people all the people fairly.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Mayo4Sam14 on August 12, 2018, 01:28:48 AM
Take Tyrone They can draw on 100000
 for their team due to sectarian division
Dublin CSO/Irl pop est 2018 is 1.35m
Estimates of GAA investments per member
for development etc. in Dublin are five times
higher than the other Counties like Tyrone
So Dub potential playing pop 13.5 times Tyrone the
investment factor multiples that by 5 
Ie. Dub overall advantage in resources is
13.5x5=67.5 to 1 for Tyrone.
 Other Counties have a lots worse resource
 disadvantage than Tyrone
using this formulae to give a rough idea of comparability
So Dubs win everything play keep ball
Result total boredom no money
Croke Park sold to U2 and rugby and GAA withers
GAA HQ Thurles hurling best game in world
well played in 10 Counties at best lives on
dull boring drunken Dub supporter dominated
football dies
Do we want this? Maybe
But let's have one last try to balance the resources and
effort around the Country stopping media creation Dublin domination
and get back to club roots
Let's make the money work for the people all the people fairly.

A decent chunk of that 1.3 million probably aren’t playing football tbf
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Owen Brannigan on August 12, 2018, 09:35:46 AM
I was surprised at the capacity of Healy Park (16.5K). Obviously it has been capped but it could easily have fitted in another 2-3k. There was a good bit of space where we were stood. I thought I remembered it holding 20k. Maybe not.

Safety is not just about space but how quickly you can evacuate the crowd in an emergency and an old style ground like Healy Park fails on that point due to its immediate congestion and difficulty for emergency services to reach all parts while people filter out.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Jinxy on August 12, 2018, 12:43:56 PM
Is there a way of parachuting Mayo into an AI Semi final? That'd get the crowds up. We could build up the hype by saying Mayo teams don't throw in the towel like the fancy Dan's and ignore how sh1te they were in the League and Championship in 2018. Just live off past glories from the last half decade.

If Mayo are finished as a genuine threat to Dublin and Kerry don't get their act together quickly, then attendances and TV viewing figures will fall off a cliff.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: didlyi on August 12, 2018, 01:37:10 PM
All due respects to Galway but unles its a Dublin Kerry final there are alot of dubs supporters that coudnt be bothered going. Its be a worrying trend, the number of supporters coming to support the Dubs is decreasing year on year.

That's nonsense

Really?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on August 12, 2018, 02:16:47 PM
Is there a way of parachuting Mayo into an AI Semi final? That'd get the crowds up. We could build up the hype by saying Mayo teams don't throw in the towel like the fancy Dan's and ignore how sh1te they were in the League and Championship in 2018. Just live off past glories from the last half decade.

If Mayo are finished as a genuine threat to Dublin and Kerry don't get their act together quickly, then attendances and TV viewing figures will fall off a cliff.

They already have.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Blowitupref on August 12, 2018, 04:23:52 PM
AI semi final attendance today 49,496
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on August 12, 2018, 04:24:21 PM
49,496 today  Great turn out  -about 1 third of the combined populations (Unionists not taken into accoubt)
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: manfromdelmonte on August 12, 2018, 04:49:17 PM
No neutrals going to games anymore
Often people would go to the semi finals as they knew they wouldn't get tickets for a final
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 12, 2018, 05:54:08 PM
No neutrals going to games anymore
Often people would go to the semi finals as they knew they wouldn't get tickets for a final
True but you will still get plenty of neutrals at the AI final in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on August 12, 2018, 06:13:51 PM
No neutrals going to games anymore
Often people would go to the semi finals as they knew they wouldn't get tickets for a final

It's expensive enough following your own team!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Keyser soze on August 13, 2018, 11:57:15 AM
No neutrals going to games anymore
Often people would go to the semi finals as they knew they wouldn't get tickets for a final

It's expensive enough following your own team!

Not if you're from Derry it isn't!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Hereiam on August 13, 2018, 12:03:01 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: delgany on August 13, 2018, 12:42:59 PM
€45 ticket price is unrealistic. QTR final groups were €30   IN a compressed season , people can't afford the number of games from one pay cheque.

The club pass was good value at €15 yesterday. Seats were poor but couldn't complain. Davin end was full of clubs from Antrim and Cavan and Tyrone
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: markl121 on August 13, 2018, 01:43:13 PM
No neutrals going to games anymore
Often people would go to the semi finals as they knew they wouldn't get tickets for a final

It's expensive enough following your own team!

Not if you're from Derry it isn't!
tell me about it. Resorted to going to tyrone games instead and supporting the opposition. So bitter.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: thebackbar1 on August 13, 2018, 01:44:56 PM
€45 ticket price is unrealistic. QTR final groups were €30   IN a compressed season , people can't afford the number of games from one pay cheque.

The club pass was good value at €15 yesterday. Seats were poor but couldn't complain. Davin end was full of clubs from Antrim and Cavan and Tyrone

the tickets were woeful imho, also the big screen didn't show many replays of incidents. I definitely wouldn't be getting these type of tickets again.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: AZOffaly on August 13, 2018, 02:03:37 PM
That's a good point re the monthly paycheques. 4 games essentially coming on the back of one another is a decent chunk of change for a family.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on August 13, 2018, 02:35:00 PM
We shorten the Inter County season,  we bring in 2 extra football Rounds and 4 Hurling ones so something has to give.
Peoples' pockets for a start.
Not everyone lives within a €2 Bus fare of Croker  and of course those who make fixtures and other decisions don't pay in anyway.
Still Laythrum or Longford etc would like to have such problems
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on August 13, 2018, 03:45:05 PM
Poor enough attendance in Croke Park, there might be as many tomorrow.

54k. Per population Dublin are brutally supported. The GAA have killed their own cash cow.

I can't recall the last time that Dublin had less than 80K at All Ireland semi final.
1995 when capacity was reduced due to Cusack being rebuilt
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on August 14, 2018, 10:54:39 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/gaa-unsure-on-reasons-for-low-football-crowds-at-croke-park-1.3595250?mode=amp
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 25, 2018, 01:53:59 PM
Ray Cosgrove on Dublin's All Ireland semi final attendance.

Quote
"I was walking down Jones’ Road going to Croke Park for the semi-final and it seemed like a League game," Cosgrove points out.

"The attendance was so poor.

"I was really scratching my head thinking ‘what’s going on here’?

"For 54,000 to show up, it was disappointing from a Dublin fans’ perspective. Then you’ll have a lot of guys who will come out from under the woodwork for Sunday week and will be occupying seats in Croke Park.

"I’d love to know," Cosgrove adds, "where those thirty-odd thousand people have been and why they weren’t behind the team in the semi-final?"


Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on August 25, 2018, 02:03:31 PM
Ray Cosgrove on Dublin's All Ireland semi final attendance.

Quote
"I was walking down Jones’ Road going to Croke Park for the semi-final and it seemed like a League game," Cosgrove points out.

"The attendance was so poor.

"I was really scratching my head thinking ‘what’s going on here’?

"For 54,000 to show up, it was disappointing from a Dublin fans’ perspective. Then you’ll have a lot of guys who will come out from under the woodwork for Sunday week and will be occupying seats in Croke Park.

"I’d love to know," Cosgrove adds, "where those thirty-odd thousand people have been and why they weren’t behind the team in the semi-final?"



Why? Because most of those ''Supporters'' had better things to be doing with their Time and especially their Money for a game they seen as a foregone conclusion.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 25, 2018, 02:39:50 PM
Ray Cosgrove on Dublin's All Ireland semi final attendance.

Quote
"I was walking down Jones’ Road going to Croke Park for the semi-final and it seemed like a League game," Cosgrove points out.

"The attendance was so poor.

"I was really scratching my head thinking ‘what’s going on here’?

"For 54,000 to show up, it was disappointing from a Dublin fans’ perspective. Then you’ll have a lot of guys who will come out from under the woodwork for Sunday week and will be occupying seats in Croke Park.

"I’d love to know," Cosgrove adds, "where those thirty-odd thousand people have been and why they weren’t behind the team in the semi-final?"



Why? Because most of those ''Supporters'' had better things to be doing with their Time and especially their Money for a game they seen as a foregone conclusion.

Those supporters should only turn up when they are in danger of losing? not often in the case of Dublin!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Owen Brannigan on August 25, 2018, 09:51:28 PM
Looking at Croke Park tonight even the Pope hasn't been able to fill the stadium.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on August 25, 2018, 10:37:30 PM
Looking at Croke Park tonight even the Pope hasn't been able to fill the stadium.

Yeah and Garth Brooks could fill it 5 times! Depressing thought for the Religion of our Birth!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on September 03, 2018, 07:35:29 PM
I can see a lot of supporters falling off the various Bandwagons in 2019.

Mayo, Tyrone, Galway, Donegal and Kerry wont be as flippant with their time and Money.

Even the Dublin supporters will start to decline. You can get bored winning as well!

Super 8's was a huge failure this year and I still don't see the point of it?

Do Croke Park wan't to give Dublin a spare opportunity to feck up but still be in the Championship?

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: seafoid on September 03, 2018, 08:13:11 PM
I can see a lot of supporters falling off the various Bandwagons in 2019.

Mayo, Tyrone, Galway, Donegal and Kerry wont be as flippant with their time and Money.

Even the Dublin supporters will start to decline. You can get bored winning as well!

Super 8's was a huge failure this year and I still don't see the point of it?

Do Croke Park wan't to give Dublin a spare opportunity to feck up but still be in the Championship?
The GAA may have killed its golden goose.
A championship with no competition is not going to attract crowds
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 04, 2018, 12:34:33 AM
5k turn up in Smithfield out of a population of 1.7m. A team of the people, puts the 90k in Limerick to shame.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 12:48:38 AM
I can see a lot of supporters falling off the various Bandwagons in 2019.

Mayo, Tyrone, Galway, Donegal and Kerry wont be as flippant with their time and Money.

Even the Dublin supporters will start to decline. You can get bored winning as well!

Super 8's was a huge failure this year and I still don't see the point of it?

Do Croke Park wan't to give Dublin a spare opportunity to feck up but still be in the Championship?

The Nestor Cup will be the hardest-fought trophy in 2019.. the very best match of the championship this year took place in New York on the very first weekend. Says it all, really.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Franko on September 04, 2018, 12:09:33 PM
I can see a lot of supporters falling off the various Bandwagons in 2019.

Mayo, Tyrone, Galway, Donegal and Kerry wont be as flippant with their time and Money.

Even the Dublin supporters will start to decline. You can get bored winning as well!

Super 8's was a huge failure this year and I still don't see the point of it?

Do Croke Park wan't to give Dublin a spare opportunity to feck up but still be in the Championship?

The Nestor Cup will be the hardest-fought trophy in 2019.. the very best match of the championship this year took place in New York on the very first weekend. Says it all, really.

Be some grudge matches in that alright...  ::)
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Blowitupref on September 04, 2018, 12:30:14 PM
Is it true that John Horan said on RTE Sunday night you only have to look at the high attendance figures to know the game is in a healthy state right now?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Owenmoresider on September 04, 2018, 01:09:38 PM
Is it true that John Horan said on RTE Sunday night you only have to look at the high attendance figures to know the game is in a healthy state right now?
Yeah, incredulously he cited the two full houses for the All-Ireland finals as his justification. Delusional.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on September 04, 2018, 01:12:07 PM
Is it true that John Horan said on RTE Sunday night you only have to look at the high attendance figures to know the game is in a healthy state right now?
Yeah, incredulously he cited the two full houses for the All-Ireland finals as his justification. Delusional.

That such a person could become President is concerning for the Association.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: seafoid on September 04, 2018, 01:24:50 PM
Is it true that John Horan said on RTE Sunday night you only have to look at the high attendance figures to know the game is in a healthy state right now?
Yeah, incredulously he cited the two full houses for the All-Ireland finals as his justification. Delusional.

That such a person could become President is concerning for the Association.
Uachtarán CLG is a business as usual role. The machine works and there isn’t much to do. But Gaelic football is not business as usual right now
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: joemamas on September 04, 2018, 01:41:14 PM
Is it true that John Horan said on RTE Sunday night you only have to look at the high attendance figures to know the game is in a healthy state right now?
Yeah, incredulously he cited the two full houses for the All-Ireland finals as his justification. Delusional.

That such a person could become President is concerning for the Association.

If that quote is accurate, then that is simply mindboggling.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 04, 2018, 01:44:09 PM
Is it true that John Horan said on RTE Sunday night you only have to look at the high attendance figures to know the game is in a healthy state right now?
Yeah, incredulously he cited the two full houses for the All-Ireland finals as his justification. Delusional.

That such a person could become President is concerning for the Association.

If that quote is accurate, then that is simply mindboggling.

He's from Dublin, he's hardly going to admit to a problem, certainly not on his watch.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: seafoid on September 04, 2018, 02:22:40 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on September 04, 2018, 03:04:58 PM
Is it true that John Horan said on RTE Sunday night you only have to look at the high attendance figures to know the game is in a healthy state right now?
Yeah, incredulously he cited the two full houses for the All-Ireland finals as his justification. Delusional.

That such a person could become President is concerning for the Association.

If that quote is accurate, then that is simply mindboggling.

He's from Dublin, he's hardly going to admit to a problem, certainly not on his watch.
Crowds well down at Dublin's Croke Park games this year.
Only a few thousand at their reception.
2 dead Provincial Championships and now a dead AI one as well.
Things are grand John!!!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Hound on September 04, 2018, 03:24:46 PM
Is it true that John Horan said on RTE Sunday night you only have to look at the high attendance figures to know the game is in a healthy state right now?
Yeah, incredulously he cited the two full houses for the All-Ireland finals as his justification. Delusional.

That such a person could become President is concerning for the Association.

If that quote is accurate, then that is simply mindboggling.
But it's not what he said!

Of course he was more upbeat than some on here would like and he did reference the All Irelands being sellouts, but he also referenced that mistakes were made during the year and that things could be better but that they're already working on improvements for next year.

Honestly, if people think on the evening of the All Ireland that the President should be saying the game is in shit, etc, then they are complete gobshites.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on September 04, 2018, 03:35:42 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?

No!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 03:42:43 PM
Is it true that John Horan said on RTE Sunday night you only have to look at the high attendance figures to know the game is in a healthy state right now?
Yeah, incredulously he cited the two full houses for the All-Ireland finals as his justification. Delusional.

That such a person could become President is concerning for the Association.

If that quote is accurate, then that is simply mindboggling.
But it's not what he said!

Of course he was more upbeat than some on here would like and he did reference the All Irelands being sellouts, but he also referenced that mistakes were made during the year and that things could be better but that they're already working on improvements for next year.

Honestly, if people think on the evening of the All Ireland that the President should be saying the game is in shit, etc, then they are complete gobshites.

The mistake was giving a 'county' that was already an amalgamation of four hugely populous counties a massive injection of money.

Honestly, if people think on the evening of the All Ireland that the President shouldn't honest, etc, then they are complete gobshites.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Esmarelda on September 04, 2018, 03:44:27 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
So people from Tipperary/Kildare/Down/Cavan/Roscommon wouldn't go to see their counties play in the Super 8s next year because they'd believe (for some reason) that the structure wasn't designed for them (whatever that means)?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 03:48:42 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
So people from Tipperary/Kildare/Down/Cavan/Roscommon wouldn't go to see their counties play in the Super 8s next year because they'd believe (for some reason) that the structure wasn't designed for them (whatever that means)?

Some reason? The smaller counties by simple numbers and playing resources are better able to compete in once-off matches. A round robin structure is of benefit most of all to the bigger counties who can tolerate the accumulation of injuries that system leads to and still win through it and a semi-final a week later. If you think otherwise you're simply wrong.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Esmarelda on September 04, 2018, 03:55:07 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
So people from Tipperary/Kildare/Down/Cavan/Roscommon wouldn't go to see their counties play in the Super 8s next year because they'd believe (for some reason) that the structure wasn't designed for them (whatever that means)?

Some reason? The smaller counties by simple numbers and playing resources are better able to compete in once-off matches. A round robin structure is of benefit most of all to be bigger counties who can tolerate the accumulation of injuries that system leads to and still win through it and a semi-final a week later. If you think otherwise you're simply wrong.
I almost hesitate to reply considering I'm "simply wrong". No room for discussion with you?

This discussion has been done to death. I'm not claiming that anyone designed the Super 8s for the benefits of weaker counties. I don't think it was constructed to benefit any counties, personally. However, if the counties listed above qualified for the last 8 they should keep away from GAA Board and focus on what they can get out of it. They're as likely to win the AI with the new system as the were with the old, i.e. they have virtually no chance.

In the current system, they get to play against the better teams outside of a league setting and I can't see, at least in the immediate term, why spectators would not travel to see these games.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: trailer on September 04, 2018, 04:04:19 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
So people from Tipperary/Kildare/Down/Cavan/Roscommon wouldn't go to see their counties play in the Super 8s next year because they'd believe (for some reason) that the structure wasn't designed for them (whatever that means)?

Some reason? The smaller counties by simple numbers and playing resources are better able to compete in once-off matches. A round robin structure is of benefit most of all to be bigger counties who can tolerate the accumulation of injuries that system leads to and still win through it and a semi-final a week later. If you think otherwise you're simply wrong.
I almost hesitate to reply considering I'm "simply wrong". No room for discussion with you?

This discussion has been done to death. I'm not claiming that anyone designed the Super 8s for the benefits of weaker counties. I don't think it was constructed to benefit any counties, personally. However, if the counties listed above qualified for the last 8 they should keep away from GAA Board and focus on what they can get out of it. They're as likely to win the AI with the new system as the were with the old, i.e. they have virtually no chance.

In the current system, they get to play against the better teams outside of a league setting and I can't see, at least in the immediate term, why spectators would not travel to see these games.

Weaker counties are getting what they deserve. They have no interest in a tiered championship and then they moan that the better teams win the thing. People are delusional. Attendances are going to go down especially in Leinster. Dublin are dominating. They have steam rolled everything in the Leinster championship. Meath, Kildare etc are intermediate teams at best. The rest Junior. That's the reality. When the weaker counties wake up it will probably be to late.

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 04:07:32 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
So people from Tipperary/Kildare/Down/Cavan/Roscommon wouldn't go to see their counties play in the Super 8s next year because they'd believe (for some reason) that the structure wasn't designed for them (whatever that means)?

Some reason? The smaller counties by simple numbers and playing resources are better able to compete in once-off matches. A round robin structure is of benefit most of all to be bigger counties who can tolerate the accumulation of injuries that system leads to and still win through it and a semi-final a week later. If you think otherwise you're simply wrong.
I almost hesitate to reply considering I'm "simply wrong". No room for discussion with you?

This discussion has been done to death. I'm not claiming that anyone designed the Super 8s for the benefits of weaker counties. I don't think it was constructed to benefit any counties, personally. However, if the counties listed above qualified for the last 8 they should keep away from GAA Board and focus on what they can get out of it. They're as likely to win the AI with the new system as the were with the old, i.e. they have virtually no chance.

In the current system, they get to play against the better teams outside of a league setting and I can't see, at least in the immediate term, why spectators would not travel to see these games.

Weaker counties are getting what they deserve. They have no interest in a tiered championship and then they moan that the better teams win the thing. People are delusional. Attendances are going to go down especially in Leinster. Dublin are dominating. They have steam rolled everything in the Leinster championship. Meath, Kildare etc are intermediate teams at best. The rest Junior. That's the reality. When the weaker counties wake up it will probably be to late.

And you’re also ‘simply wrong’ if you think putting counties in a ghetto is a better solution.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: highorlow on September 04, 2018, 04:10:46 PM
Quote
Meath, Kildare etc are intermediate teams at best

Get real, Meath were robbed this year by the All Ireland Finalists. Kildare beat Mayo.

Either the rest are all shit or Dublin are so far ahead now it's getting unbalanced.

Which is it?

Take the Dubs out of the competition then everyone in Div 1 and 2 would fancy winning the thing, that's the reality.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on September 04, 2018, 04:15:39 PM
Big attendance in Omagh yesterday for the homecoming.


Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: trailer on September 04, 2018, 04:20:53 PM
Quote
Meath, Kildare etc are intermediate teams at best

Get real, Meath were robbed this year by the All Ireland Finalists. Kildare beat Mayo.

Either the rest are all shit or Dublin are so far ahead now it's getting unbalanced.

Which is it?

Take the Dubs out of the competition then everyone in Div 1 and 2 would fancy winning the thing, that's the reality.

How did Tyrone rob Meath? Get real yourself.
Kildare were also beaten by Carlow. A Carlow team that Tyrone dismissed comprehensively.
Intermediate is being kind.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: trailer on September 04, 2018, 04:23:03 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
So people from Tipperary/Kildare/Down/Cavan/Roscommon wouldn't go to see their counties play in the Super 8s next year because they'd believe (for some reason) that the structure wasn't designed for them (whatever that means)?

Some reason? The smaller counties by simple numbers and playing resources are better able to compete in once-off matches. A round robin structure is of benefit most of all to be bigger counties who can tolerate the accumulation of injuries that system leads to and still win through it and a semi-final a week later. If you think otherwise you're simply wrong.
I almost hesitate to reply considering I'm "simply wrong". No room for discussion with you?

This discussion has been done to death. I'm not claiming that anyone designed the Super 8s for the benefits of weaker counties. I don't think it was constructed to benefit any counties, personally. However, if the counties listed above qualified for the last 8 they should keep away from GAA Board and focus on what they can get out of it. They're as likely to win the AI with the new system as the were with the old, i.e. they have virtually no chance.

In the current system, they get to play against the better teams outside of a league setting and I can't see, at least in the immediate term, why spectators would not travel to see these games.

Weaker counties are getting what they deserve. They have no interest in a tiered championship and then they moan that the better teams win the thing. People are delusional. Attendances are going to go down especially in Leinster. Dublin are dominating. They have steam rolled everything in the Leinster championship. Meath, Kildare etc are intermediate teams at best. The rest Junior. That's the reality. When the weaker counties wake up it will probably be to late.

And you’re also ‘simply wrong’ if you think putting counties in a ghetto is a better solution.

Teams should be playing at their own level. I don't know why anyone would be against this.

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 04, 2018, 04:39:37 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
So people from Tipperary/Kildare/Down/Cavan/Roscommon wouldn't go to see their counties play in the Super 8s next year because they'd believe (for some reason) that the structure wasn't designed for them (whatever that means)?

Some reason? The smaller counties by simple numbers and playing resources are better able to compete in once-off matches. A round robin structure is of benefit most of all to be bigger counties who can tolerate the accumulation of injuries that system leads to and still win through it and a semi-final a week later. If you think otherwise you're simply wrong.
I almost hesitate to reply considering I'm "simply wrong". No room for discussion with you?

This discussion has been done to death. I'm not claiming that anyone designed the Super 8s for the benefits of weaker counties. I don't think it was constructed to benefit any counties, personally. However, if the counties listed above qualified for the last 8 they should keep away from GAA Board and focus on what they can get out of it. They're as likely to win the AI with the new system as the were with the old, i.e. they have virtually no chance.

In the current system, they get to play against the better teams outside of a league setting and I can't see, at least in the immediate term, why spectators would not travel to see these games.

Weaker counties are getting what they deserve. They have no interest in a tiered championship and then they moan that the better teams win the thing. People are delusional. Attendances are going to go down especially in Leinster. Dublin are dominating. They have steam rolled everything in the Leinster championship. Meath, Kildare etc are intermediate teams at best. The rest Junior. That's the reality. When the weaker counties wake up it will probably be to late.

And you’re also ‘simply wrong’ if you think putting counties in a ghetto is a better solution.

Teams should be playing at their own level. I don't know why anyone would be against this.

We all know Tyrone aren't at the level of All-Ireland contenders, that was embarrassing on Sunday. I had to laugh at the "they died with their boots on", Dublin had theirs off, feet up on the couch, cigar in one hand, brandy in the other, laughing at the feeble effort, almost wishing Mayo had played them and tested their manliness..
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 04:43:00 PM
I would support a tiered system if Dublin were the only senior team.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: trailer on September 04, 2018, 04:48:17 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
So people from Tipperary/Kildare/Down/Cavan/Roscommon wouldn't go to see their counties play in the Super 8s next year because they'd believe (for some reason) that the structure wasn't designed for them (whatever that means)?

Some reason? The smaller counties by simple numbers and playing resources are better able to compete in once-off matches. A round robin structure is of benefit most of all to be bigger counties who can tolerate the accumulation of injuries that system leads to and still win through it and a semi-final a week later. If you think otherwise you're simply wrong.
I almost hesitate to reply considering I'm "simply wrong". No room for discussion with you?

This discussion has been done to death. I'm not claiming that anyone designed the Super 8s for the benefits of weaker counties. I don't think it was constructed to benefit any counties, personally. However, if the counties listed above qualified for the last 8 they should keep away from GAA Board and focus on what they can get out of it. They're as likely to win the AI with the new system as the were with the old, i.e. they have virtually no chance.

In the current system, they get to play against the better teams outside of a league setting and I can't see, at least in the immediate term, why spectators would not travel to see these games.

Weaker counties are getting what they deserve. They have no interest in a tiered championship and then they moan that the better teams win the thing. People are delusional. Attendances are going to go down especially in Leinster. Dublin are dominating. They have steam rolled everything in the Leinster championship. Meath, Kildare etc are intermediate teams at best. The rest Junior. That's the reality. When the weaker counties wake up it will probably be to late.

And you’re also ‘simply wrong’ if you think putting counties in a ghetto is a better solution.

Teams should be playing at their own level. I don't know why anyone would be against this.

We all know Tyrone aren't at the level of All-Ireland contenders, that was embarrassing on Sunday. I had to laugh at the "they died with their boots on", Dublin had theirs off, feet up on the couch, cigar in one hand, brandy in the other, laughing at the feeble effort, almost wishing Mayo had played them and tested their manliness..

Whenever Kildare get their act together come back to me.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 04, 2018, 04:52:03 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
So people from Tipperary/Kildare/Down/Cavan/Roscommon wouldn't go to see their counties play in the Super 8s next year because they'd believe (for some reason) that the structure wasn't designed for them (whatever that means)?

Some reason? The smaller counties by simple numbers and playing resources are better able to compete in once-off matches. A round robin structure is of benefit most of all to be bigger counties who can tolerate the accumulation of injuries that system leads to and still win through it and a semi-final a week later. If you think otherwise you're simply wrong.
I almost hesitate to reply considering I'm "simply wrong". No room for discussion with you?

This discussion has been done to death. I'm not claiming that anyone designed the Super 8s for the benefits of weaker counties. I don't think it was constructed to benefit any counties, personally. However, if the counties listed above qualified for the last 8 they should keep away from GAA Board and focus on what they can get out of it. They're as likely to win the AI with the new system as the were with the old, i.e. they have virtually no chance.

In the current system, they get to play against the better teams outside of a league setting and I can't see, at least in the immediate term, why spectators would not travel to see these games.

Weaker counties are getting what they deserve. They have no interest in a tiered championship and then they moan that the better teams win the thing. People are delusional. Attendances are going to go down especially in Leinster. Dublin are dominating. They have steam rolled everything in the Leinster championship. Meath, Kildare etc are intermediate teams at best. The rest Junior. That's the reality. When the weaker counties wake up it will probably be to late.

And you’re also ‘simply wrong’ if you think putting counties in a ghetto is a better solution.

Teams should be playing at their own level. I don't know why anyone would be against this.

We all know Tyrone aren't at the level of All-Ireland contenders, that was embarrassing on Sunday. I had to laugh at the "they died with their boots on", Dublin had theirs off, feet up on the couch, cigar in one hand, brandy in the other, laughing at the feeble effort, almost wishing Mayo had played them and tested their manliness..

Whenever Kildare get their act together come back to me.

If Sunday was Tyrone with their act together God help ya, Dublin used you like a butt plug.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: trailer on September 04, 2018, 08:19:39 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
So people from Tipperary/Kildare/Down/Cavan/Roscommon wouldn't go to see their counties play in the Super 8s next year because they'd believe (for some reason) that the structure wasn't designed for them (whatever that means)?

Some reason? The smaller counties by simple numbers and playing resources are better able to compete in once-off matches. A round robin structure is of benefit most of all to be bigger counties who can tolerate the accumulation of injuries that system leads to and still win through it and a semi-final a week later. If you think otherwise you're simply wrong.
I almost hesitate to reply considering I'm "simply wrong". No room for discussion with you?

This discussion has been done to death. I'm not claiming that anyone designed the Super 8s for the benefits of weaker counties. I don't think it was constructed to benefit any counties, personally. However, if the counties listed above qualified for the last 8 they should keep away from GAA Board and focus on what they can get out of it. They're as likely to win the AI with the new system as the were with the old, i.e. they have virtually no chance.

In the current system, they get to play against the better teams outside of a league setting and I can't see, at least in the immediate term, why spectators would not travel to see these games.

Weaker counties are getting what they deserve. They have no interest in a tiered championship and then they moan that the better teams win the thing. People are delusional. Attendances are going to go down especially in Leinster. Dublin are dominating. They have steam rolled everything in the Leinster championship. Meath, Kildare etc are intermediate teams at best. The rest Junior. That's the reality. When the weaker counties wake up it will probably be to late.

And you’re also ‘simply wrong’ if you think putting counties in a ghetto is a better solution.

Teams should be playing at their own level. I don't know why anyone would be against this.

We all know Tyrone aren't at the level of All-Ireland contenders, that was embarrassing on Sunday. I had to laugh at the "they died with their boots on", Dublin had theirs off, feet up on the couch, cigar in one hand, brandy in the other, laughing at the feeble effort, almost wishing Mayo had played them and tested their manliness..

Whenever Kildare get their act together come back to me.

If Sunday was Tyrone with their act together God help ya, Dublin used you like a butt plug.

Well if we were the butt plug you lot are the dirty bit down the street that everyone is riding. Newbridge or Nowhere? Nowhere is the answer.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 08:44:06 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
So people from Tipperary/Kildare/Down/Cavan/Roscommon wouldn't go to see their counties play in the Super 8s next year because they'd believe (for some reason) that the structure wasn't designed for them (whatever that means)?

Some reason? The smaller counties by simple numbers and playing resources are better able to compete in once-off matches. A round robin structure is of benefit most of all to be bigger counties who can tolerate the accumulation of injuries that system leads to and still win through it and a semi-final a week later. If you think otherwise you're simply wrong.
I almost hesitate to reply considering I'm "simply wrong". No room for discussion with you?

This discussion has been done to death. I'm not claiming that anyone designed the Super 8s for the benefits of weaker counties. I don't think it was constructed to benefit any counties, personally. However, if the counties listed above qualified for the last 8 they should keep away from GAA Board and focus on what they can get out of it. They're as likely to win the AI with the new system as the were with the old, i.e. they have virtually no chance.

In the current system, they get to play against the better teams outside of a league setting and I can't see, at least in the immediate term, why spectators would not travel to see these games.

Weaker counties are getting what they deserve. They have no interest in a tiered championship and then they moan that the better teams win the thing. People are delusional. Attendances are going to go down especially in Leinster. Dublin are dominating. They have steam rolled everything in the Leinster championship. Meath, Kildare etc are intermediate teams at best. The rest Junior. That's the reality. When the weaker counties wake up it will probably be to late.

And you’re also ‘simply wrong’ if you think putting counties in a ghetto is a better solution.

Teams should be playing at their own level. I don't know why anyone would be against this.

We all know Tyrone aren't at the level of All-Ireland contenders, that was embarrassing on Sunday. I had to laugh at the "they died with their boots on", Dublin had theirs off, feet up on the couch, cigar in one hand, brandy in the other, laughing at the feeble effort, almost wishing Mayo had played them and tested their manliness..

Whenever Kildare get their act together come back to me.

If Sunday was Tyrone with their act together God help ya, Dublin used you like a butt plug.

Well if we were the butt plug you lot are the dirty bit down the street that everyone is riding. Newbridge or Nowhere? Nowhere is the answer.

Playing the man because somewhere deep in your reptilian mind you know he’s right.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: trailer on September 04, 2018, 08:47:59 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
So people from Tipperary/Kildare/Down/Cavan/Roscommon wouldn't go to see their counties play in the Super 8s next year because they'd believe (for some reason) that the structure wasn't designed for them (whatever that means)?

Some reason? The smaller counties by simple numbers and playing resources are better able to compete in once-off matches. A round robin structure is of benefit most of all to be bigger counties who can tolerate the accumulation of injuries that system leads to and still win through it and a semi-final a week later. If you think otherwise you're simply wrong.
I almost hesitate to reply considering I'm "simply wrong". No room for discussion with you?

This discussion has been done to death. I'm not claiming that anyone designed the Super 8s for the benefits of weaker counties. I don't think it was constructed to benefit any counties, personally. However, if the counties listed above qualified for the last 8 they should keep away from GAA Board and focus on what they can get out of it. They're as likely to win the AI with the new system as the were with the old, i.e. they have virtually no chance.

In the current system, they get to play against the better teams outside of a league setting and I can't see, at least in the immediate term, why spectators would not travel to see these games.

Weaker counties are getting what they deserve. They have no interest in a tiered championship and then they moan that the better teams win the thing. People are delusional. Attendances are going to go down especially in Leinster. Dublin are dominating. They have steam rolled everything in the Leinster championship. Meath, Kildare etc are intermediate teams at best. The rest Junior. That's the reality. When the weaker counties wake up it will probably be to late.

And you’re also ‘simply wrong’ if you think putting counties in a ghetto is a better solution.

Teams should be playing at their own level. I don't know why anyone would be against this.

We all know Tyrone aren't at the level of All-Ireland contenders, that was embarrassing on Sunday. I had to laugh at the "they died with their boots on", Dublin had theirs off, feet up on the couch, cigar in one hand, brandy in the other, laughing at the feeble effort, almost wishing Mayo had played them and tested their manliness..

Whenever Kildare get their act together come back to me.

If Sunday was Tyrone with their act together God help ya, Dublin used you like a butt plug.

Well if we were the butt plug you lot are the dirty bit down the street that everyone is riding. Newbridge or Nowhere? Nowhere is the answer.

Playing the man because somewhere deep in your reptilian mind you know he’s right.

Couple of things Mr.
Who's playing the man? Explain this to me. Did I mention anything about him?
By saying I have a 'reptilian mind' is that not playing the man?

I will await your non response, as is the case when you are challenged on this board.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 08:54:05 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
So people from Tipperary/Kildare/Down/Cavan/Roscommon wouldn't go to see their counties play in the Super 8s next year because they'd believe (for some reason) that the structure wasn't designed for them (whatever that means)?

Some reason? The smaller counties by simple numbers and playing resources are better able to compete in once-off matches. A round robin structure is of benefit most of all to be bigger counties who can tolerate the accumulation of injuries that system leads to and still win through it and a semi-final a week later. If you think otherwise you're simply wrong.
I almost hesitate to reply considering I'm "simply wrong". No room for discussion with you?

This discussion has been done to death. I'm not claiming that anyone designed the Super 8s for the benefits of weaker counties. I don't think it was constructed to benefit any counties, personally. However, if the counties listed above qualified for the last 8 they should keep away from GAA Board and focus on what they can get out of it. They're as likely to win the AI with the new system as the were with the old, i.e. they have virtually no chance.

In the current system, they get to play against the better teams outside of a league setting and I can't see, at least in the immediate term, why spectators would not travel to see these games.

Weaker counties are getting what they deserve. They have no interest in a tiered championship and then they moan that the better teams win the thing. People are delusional. Attendances are going to go down especially in Leinster. Dublin are dominating. They have steam rolled everything in the Leinster championship. Meath, Kildare etc are intermediate teams at best. The rest Junior. That's the reality. When the weaker counties wake up it will probably be to late.

And you’re also ‘simply wrong’ if you think putting counties in a ghetto is a better solution.

Teams should be playing at their own level. I don't know why anyone would be against this.

We all know Tyrone aren't at the level of All-Ireland contenders, that was embarrassing on Sunday. I had to laugh at the "they died with their boots on", Dublin had theirs off, feet up on the couch, cigar in one hand, brandy in the other, laughing at the feeble effort, almost wishing Mayo had played them and tested their manliness..

Whenever Kildare get their act together come back to me.

If Sunday was Tyrone with their act together God help ya, Dublin used you like a butt plug.

Well if we were the butt plug you lot are the dirty bit down the street that everyone is riding. Newbridge or Nowhere? Nowhere is the answer.

Playing the man because somewhere deep in your reptilian mind you know he’s right.

Couple of things Mr.
Who's playing the man? Explain this to me. Did I mention anything about him?
By saying I have a 'reptilian mind' is that not playing the man?

I will await your non response, as is the case when you are challenged on this board.

I think you seriously need to Google reptilian mind before you say another word and dig the hole any deeper..
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: trailer on September 04, 2018, 09:04:41 PM
What has been happening in Leinster is how happening at the all Ireland stage.  There is no competition. Leinster attendances are way down on those 15 years ago. The Leinster Final is a waste of time. From now on it'll be the same for the Super 8 and semifinals. People won't be arsed.  If you knew your county hadn't a hope of winning the all Ireland not because they weren't good but because the system wasn't designed for them would you invest your emotional time with them ?
So people from Tipperary/Kildare/Down/Cavan/Roscommon wouldn't go to see their counties play in the Super 8s next year because they'd believe (for some reason) that the structure wasn't designed for them (whatever that means)?

Some reason? The smaller counties by simple numbers and playing resources are better able to compete in once-off matches. A round robin structure is of benefit most of all to be bigger counties who can tolerate the accumulation of injuries that system leads to and still win through it and a semi-final a week later. If you think otherwise you're simply wrong.
I almost hesitate to reply considering I'm "simply wrong". No room for discussion with you?

This discussion has been done to death. I'm not claiming that anyone designed the Super 8s for the benefits of weaker counties. I don't think it was constructed to benefit any counties, personally. However, if the counties listed above qualified for the last 8 they should keep away from GAA Board and focus on what they can get out of it. They're as likely to win the AI with the new system as the were with the old, i.e. they have virtually no chance.

In the current system, they get to play against the better teams outside of a league setting and I can't see, at least in the immediate term, why spectators would not travel to see these games.

Weaker counties are getting what they deserve. They have no interest in a tiered championship and then they moan that the better teams win the thing. People are delusional. Attendances are going to go down especially in Leinster. Dublin are dominating. They have steam rolled everything in the Leinster championship. Meath, Kildare etc are intermediate teams at best. The rest Junior. That's the reality. When the weaker counties wake up it will probably be to late.

And you’re also ‘simply wrong’ if you think putting counties in a ghetto is a better solution.

Teams should be playing at their own level. I don't know why anyone would be against this.

We all know Tyrone aren't at the level of All-Ireland contenders, that was embarrassing on Sunday. I had to laugh at the "they died with their boots on", Dublin had theirs off, feet up on the couch, cigar in one hand, brandy in the other, laughing at the feeble effort, almost wishing Mayo had played them and tested their manliness..

Whenever Kildare get their act together come back to me.

If Sunday was Tyrone with their act together God help ya, Dublin used you like a butt plug.

Well if we were the butt plug you lot are the dirty bit down the street that everyone is riding. Newbridge or Nowhere? Nowhere is the answer.

Playing the man because somewhere deep in your reptilian mind you know he’s right.

Couple of things Mr.
Who's playing the man? Explain this to me. Did I mention anything about him?
By saying I have a 'reptilian mind' is that not playing the man?

I will await your non response, as is the case when you are challenged on this board.

I think you seriously need to Google reptilian mind before you say another word or dig the whole any deeper..

You're not worth the time nor energy. Like debating with a Trump supporter.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 05, 2018, 11:20:51 AM
You don't debate, you insult, you take it all too personally. Syferus has his opinions and general articulates those opinions pretty well, doesn't mean you have to agree with them and many don't, he doesn't play the man, or if he does only if sucked into a mud fight. Mud doesn't hurt though...
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: JoG2 on September 05, 2018, 11:26:31 AM
In the last 5 years, would  league attendances be on the up and championship attendances on the down?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on September 05, 2018, 12:00:42 PM
Cut the Dubs money.

Back to straight knockout football (no back door and certainly no subpar 8s bullsh!t). If the media don't like it, tell them to f**k off as they are invariably wrong about what they want to change in the game.

Make the Dubs play away from home.


Give the likes of Kildare a cut at them in Newbridge and they might win 1 in 10. But that 1 would really shake things up - it'd make the Leinster Championship worth watching again. As it stands, the likes of Kildare have about a 1 in 1000 chance of winning and the 1 doesn't matter 'cos there is a safety net for the Dubs.


Being so busy milking the cash-cow dry, the GAA didn't notice the cow has ate the grass all the rest of the stock needed.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: clonadmad on September 05, 2018, 12:25:47 PM
What were the average per game attendance in 2018 in both hurling and football and how do they compare to previous years?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: kerryforsam2018 on September 12, 2018, 11:03:54 AM
Dublin used to fill Croke Park regularly, attendances are falling across the board, including Dublin. It can't be denied. Just look at Dublin attendances when they've played championship games outside Croke Park! Was it 17,000, 14,000 and this year 12,000?
     
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on September 12, 2018, 11:13:46 AM
SFC attendances
2016 -  947,000 (65 games)
2017 - 973,000 (63)
2018 - c.850,000 (68 games)

Loss of Revenue € 2m ??
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 12, 2018, 11:21:44 AM
SFC attendances
2016 -  947,000 (65 games)
2017 - 973,000 (63)
2018 - c.850,000 (68 games)

Loss of Revenue € 2m ??

2000 drop on average or 14% between 2016 and 2018. That will have them worried but we know one thing for sure that will be said it's not Dublin's fault. Other county supporters need to get their act together.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: westbound on September 12, 2018, 11:27:46 AM
SFC attendances
2016 -  947,000 (65 games)
2017 - 973,000 (63)
2018 - c.850,000 (68 games)

Loss of Revenue € 2m ??

2000 drop on average or 14% between 2016 and 2018. That will have them worried but we know one thing for sure that will be said it's not Dublin's fault. Other county supporters need to get their act together.

where were the dubs for the all ireland semi-final? In previous years they would have filled croke park on their own. This year for the semi final it was only about 3/4trs full.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Esmarelda on September 12, 2018, 11:34:19 AM
SFC attendances
2016 -  947,000 (65 games)
2017 - 973,000 (63)
2018 - c.850,000 (68 games)

Loss of Revenue € 2m ??
Did the price of tickets not go up this year?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Jinxy on September 12, 2018, 11:55:57 AM
More games.
Less entertainment.
Smaller crowds.
Less revenue.
Great job everyone.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyHarp on September 12, 2018, 12:16:32 PM
SFC attendances
2016 -  947,000 (65 games)
2017 - 973,000 (63)
2018 - c.850,000 (68 games)

Loss of Revenue € 2m ??
Did the price of tickets not go up this year?

I'm not sure what the price was last year but £40 for a stand ticket for an All Ireland semi final is too much, especially when the fans involved have just forked out for 2 matches extra than they would have had under the previous structure. I wonder how attendance would have been affected if the stand tickets were £25 and the Hill £10.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Maroon Manc on September 12, 2018, 12:28:33 PM
SFC attendances
2016 -  947,000 (65 games)
2017 - 973,000 (63)
2018 - c.850,000 (68 games)

Loss of Revenue € 2m ??
Did the price of tickets not go up this year?

I'm not sure what the price was last year but £40 for a stand ticket for an All Ireland semi final is too much, especially when the fans involved have just forked out for 2 matches extra than they would have had under the previous structure. I wonder how attendance would have been affected if the stand tickets were £25 and the Hill £10.

Stand ticket for the semi's were 45 euro's which is too dear but don't think the price will have affected attendances.

To be fair kids tickets for 5 euro's are brilliant value for money in comparison to any other form of entertainment.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Blowitupref on September 12, 2018, 01:49:54 PM
SFC attendances
2016 -  947,000 (65 games)
2017 - 973,000 (63)
2018 - c.850,000 (68 games)

Loss of Revenue € 2m ??

The more games brought in was make more revenue not lose it. HQ will need to think outside the box now to get more bums on seats.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: TheGreatest on September 12, 2018, 01:56:06 PM
SFC attendances
2016 -  947,000 (65 games)
Loss of Revenue € 2m ??
2017 - 973,000 (63)
2018 - c.850,000 (68 games)


2000 drop on average or 14% between 2016 and 2018. That will have them worried but we know one thing for sure that will be said it's not Dublin's fault. Other county supporters need to get their act together.

Show me the drop in attendances per county or county ground?

Dublin are on team out of 34 that play championship football annually.

The semi final happened before, 1995, only time will tell if its a once off occurrence and Mayo exiting early, in fairness to them bring large numbers everywhere, especially last year.

A lot less replays this year also but then you have the super 8s.

If you add the 30k absent from the semi final in football in which the Galway fans didn't attend, that's till only 880,000, a 90K drop elsewhere
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: highorlow on September 12, 2018, 02:01:35 PM
Quote
SFC attendances
2016 -  947,000 (65 games)
2017 - 973,000 (63)
2018 - c.850,000 (68 games)

Loss of Revenue € 2m ??

If our run in last years championship is taken out of the equation how does it compare? I'd imagine this would balance it out?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Qwerty28 on September 12, 2018, 02:50:42 PM
Anybody know the actual attendance at final? "Full house" was announced at HT but a few empty seats here and there and no shortage of tickets knocking around beforehand. I've looked but no sign of a figure.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Jinxy on September 12, 2018, 02:51:49 PM
It's impossible to have an actual 'full house'.
Some seats always have to be kept in reserve.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Cunny Funt on September 12, 2018, 02:59:12 PM
Anybody know the actual attendance at final? "Full house" was announced at HT but a few empty seats here and there and no shortage of tickets knocking around beforehand. I've looked but no sign of a figure.

No official figure was given out because i believe it was well below the 82,300 capacity and HQ didn't want the public to know that.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: priceyreilly on September 12, 2018, 03:18:46 PM
It's all crumbling for the suits in HQ. The elite 8's were a complete flop. Attendances down across the board. Even the Dubs are losing interest in the circus. Time for them to wake up. Their strategy has failed. The return on the investment in Dublin GAA led to short term gain but as was predicted, it has come crashing down. The monster is melting.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on September 12, 2018, 03:51:57 PM
Dublin used to fill Croke Park regularly, attendances are falling across the board, including Dublin. It can't be denied. Just look at Dublin attendances when they've played championship games outside Croke Park! Was it 17,000, 14,000 and this year 12,000?
 


Them figures have to be lies. Sure the Dubs have the best travelling support in the country. Portlaoise could not be used as a venue recently as it was not big enough to hold the Huge Dublin support!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on September 12, 2018, 05:18:31 PM
Tyrone, after coming through the qualifiers, played 4 big games in 5 weekends. Then a final after that. There's a hell of a lot of families who couldn't keep up with that sort of thing.

Ticket prices are far too high. Forget the quality of football. For a lot of people, it come down to money.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Jinxy on September 12, 2018, 05:22:07 PM
The more games there are, the less important they seem.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: thewobbler on September 12, 2018, 05:28:33 PM
The more games there are, the less important they seem.

I’d agree.

A combination of that and high ticket prices is never a good recipe. It’s too easy to find alternative ways to spend a hefty chunk of disposable income on a full day out.

But following a team all summer, with the underlying knowledge that ultimately - even if they’re flying - Dublin will make wee boys out off them at some stage, makes it unpalatable.

Even more so when Dublin will happily play keep ball for minutes at a time.

Football is fooked imho.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: sid waddell on September 12, 2018, 05:30:27 PM
It doesn't say much for the strength of or supposed devotion to the GAA in other counties that after eight seasons where Dublin have been successful, the default reaction of people in other counties is to simply give up.

Makes you think Roddy Doyle might well have been correct when he said that GAA was just something people were interested in when there was no Premier League.

And that Dublin is in fact the truest GAA county of the lot.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: thewobbler on September 12, 2018, 05:35:34 PM
It doesn't say much for the strength of or supposed devotion to the GAA in other counties that after eight seasons where Dublin have been successful, the default reaction of people in other counties is to simply give up.

Makes you think Roddy Doyle might well have been correct when he said that GAA was just something people were interested in when there was no Premier League.

And that Dublin is in fact the truest GAA county of the lot.


Check attendance figures for the Kerry golden years.

Then check attendances from 1990-2010, when there were a handful of potential winners.

Then get you head around the face that this isn’t anti-Dublin.

Attendances in GAA are directly related to competitiveness.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on September 12, 2018, 05:42:51 PM
Tyrone, after coming through the qualifiers, played 4 big games in 5 weekends. Then a final after that. There's a hell of a lot of families who couldn't keep up with that sort of thing.

Ticket prices are far too high. Forget the quality of football. For a lot of people, it come down to money.

This was the gig for Mayo families the last couple of years! Huge time and expense! But still we kept coming back and back. So what do the GAA do? They decide to add the Super 8 (i.e. two extra games) to the Championship to squeeze the last drop out of us. It was great that the Goose that was laying the golden egg over the last couple of years collapsed before the Super 8's this year. Served the f***ers right!

Weekly treks to Croke Park while the Dublin supporters had games on their doorstep. There was no asking them to go outside the pale to air their wares!

Home games all the way!

Anyway looks like Dublin will have the game all to itself anymore! Enjoy!

Meanwhile I'm looking at spending my money on guaranteed entertaining weekends with the Family.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: twohands!!! on January 27, 2019, 08:15:16 PM
Was having a look at some of the attendances for the games this weekend - doesn't look like the price increases did all that did much in terms of keeping people away.

Mayo v Roscommon 10,941
Galway v Cavan over 8,000 was the best I could find ( this was a double-header with the hurlers )[no smart comments about Galway Gaa's inability to track attendance accurately, please]
Monaghan v Dublin 10,556
Kerry v Tyrone 12,921

Assuming 8,000 even for the Galway v Cavan game that comes to a total of 42,418 for the 4 Division 1 games (plus Galway v Laois in the hurling) which seems a decent figure, especially given the weather conditions.




Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on January 27, 2019, 08:21:24 PM
Tipp's hurley stuff game brought 8,217.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on January 27, 2019, 08:36:58 PM
Was having a look at some of the attendances for the games this weekend - doesn't look like the price increases did all that did much in terms of keeping people away.

Mayo v Roscommon 10,941
Galway v Cavan over 8,000 was the best I could find ( this was a double-header with the hurlers )[no smart comments about Galway Gaa's inability to track attendance accurately, please]
Monaghan v Dublin 10,556
Kerry v Tyrone 12,921

Assuming 8,000 even for the Galway v Cavan game that comes to a total of 42,418 for the 4 Division 1 games (plus Galway v Laois in the hurling) which seems a decent figure, especially given the weather conditions.

I'm sure the crowd Kildare v Armagh was coming up on those figures.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 27, 2019, 08:59:01 PM
Was having a look at some of the attendances for the games this weekend - doesn't look like the price increases did all that did much in terms of keeping people away.

Mayo v Roscommon 10,941
Galway v Cavan over 8,000 was the best I could find ( this was a double-header with the hurlers )[no smart comments about Galway Gaa's inability to track attendance accurately, please]
Monaghan v Dublin 10,556
Kerry v Tyrone 12,921

Assuming 8,000 even for the Galway v Cavan game that comes to a total of 42,418 for the 4 Division 1 games (plus Galway v Laois in the hurling) which seems a decent figure, especially given the weather conditions.

8,000+ in Salthill. They announced it but I only heard the eight thousand part properly. Was a double header though but there definitely wasn’t many there from Laois for the hurling.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: illdecide on January 30, 2019, 09:10:30 AM
I was looking at the prices for Armagh's game v Clare on Sunday...£14 if you purchase now but £19 on the day, that's a disgrace. Usually it's on the day that I decide to go as I normally go out cycling on a Sunday morning so depending on the time i get back usually determines if i have time to go to the match but i'll have to pay £19 for a league game...That's too much of a hike, that surely will have an impact on attendances?

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: lurganblue on January 30, 2019, 10:18:54 AM
I was looking at the prices for Armagh's game v Clare on Sunday...£14 if you purchase now but £19 on the day, that's a disgrace. Usually it's on the day that I decide to go as I normally go out cycling on a Sunday morning so depending on the time i get back usually determines if i have time to go to the match but i'll have to pay £19 for a league game...That's too much of a hike, that surely will have an impact on attendances?

Why the need for a difference in price on the day and pre booking?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: rosnarun on January 30, 2019, 10:36:33 AM
I was looking at the prices for Armagh's game v Clare on Sunday...£14 if you purchase now but £19 on the day, that's a disgrace. Usually it's on the day that I decide to go as I normally go out cycling on a Sunday morning so depending on the time i get back usually determines if i have time to go to the match but i'll have to pay £19 for a league game...That's too much of a hike, that surely will have an impact on attendances?

Why the need for a difference in price on the day and pre booking?
i'm sure if you don't like the discount you don'tt have to take it
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on January 30, 2019, 10:40:04 AM
I was looking at the prices for Armagh's game v Clare on Sunday...£14 if you purchase now but £19 on the day, that's a disgrace. Usually it's on the day that I decide to go as I normally go out cycling on a Sunday morning so depending on the time i get back usually determines if i have time to go to the match but i'll have to pay £19 for a league game...That's too much of a hike, that surely will have an impact on attendances?

Why the need for a difference in price on the day and pre booking?

classic economics. Why do you get cheaper flights if you book in advance? The loyal supporter who is going to go rain, hail or shine gets a discount if they buy during the week, but you get the full whack from the fickle supporter. A lot of people couldn't care less about the €5 but you provide a means of avoiding i for anyone for whom it is important.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Redhand Santa on January 30, 2019, 10:42:44 AM
I was looking at the prices for Armagh's game v Clare on Sunday...£14 if you purchase now but £19 on the day, that's a disgrace. Usually it's on the day that I decide to go as I normally go out cycling on a Sunday morning so depending on the time i get back usually determines if i have time to go to the match but i'll have to pay £19 for a league game...That's too much of a hike, that surely will have an impact on attendances?

Why the need for a difference in price on the day and pre booking?

I'd say its to encourage people to pay in advance meaning:
1) They aren't handling large amounts of cash at the grounds on the day.
2) Cutting down on queues at the ticket booths and in turn meaning less people needed on the day.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Hound on January 30, 2019, 11:03:18 AM
Could be a record low for the "Spring Series" this Saturday for Dubs v Galway. The latter don't have the greatest following and there's a strong temptation to stay at home (or pub) and watch the Ireland v England, Dublin v Galway double bill in comfort.

I saw a piece about Leopardstown Dublin Festival on this weekend. And Lep officials stating that fans needn't worry about missing any of the rugby, it will be on all the screens at the racecourse (kick off not too long after the last race due to finish I think). There'd be no chance of Croker having the rugby be on any of their TVs! 
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on January 30, 2019, 01:52:15 PM
Could be a record low for the "Spring Series" this Saturday for Dubs v Galway. The latter don't have the greatest following and there's a strong temptation to stay at home (or pub) and watch the Ireland v England, Dublin v Galway double bill in comfort.

I saw a piece about Leopardstown Dublin Festival on this weekend. And Lep officials stating that fans needn't worry about missing any of the rugby, it will be on all the screens at the racecourse (kick off not too long after the last race due to finish I think). There'd be no chance of Croker having the rugby be on any of their TVs!

Quite feckin’ right too!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on January 30, 2019, 02:02:01 PM
Agree with Benny (for once ;D)
Next they'll want the GAA to play no games during the rubby season >:(
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: dec on January 30, 2019, 02:55:34 PM
Check attendance figures for the Kerry golden years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship

According to wiki the attendance at the Kerry Armagh All Ireland semi-final in 1982 was 17,523

I was at that game, I have no particular memory of the size of the crowd but these brief highlights seem to show plenty of space in the crowd. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJuT3L_LzHc
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on January 31, 2019, 03:44:16 PM
Check attendance figures for the Kerry golden years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship

According to wiki the attendance at the Kerry Armagh All Ireland semi-final in 1982 was 17,523

I was at that game, I have no particular memory of the size of the crowd but these brief highlights seem to show plenty of space in the crowd. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJuT3L_LzHc

I was at that game too and from memory it had been flagged up in advance that it all pointed towards a record low crowd. The 17,523 must have been 90% Armagh fans, as evidenced when Big Joe scored our goal into the Canal End that day. Unfortunately 5-in-a-row chasing Kerry gave three goals back, along with fifteen or sixteen points, to a very muted response from the crowd.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: illdecide on January 31, 2019, 04:13:28 PM
I was looking at the prices for Armagh's game v Clare on Sunday...£14 if you purchase now but £19 on the day, that's a disgrace. Usually it's on the day that I decide to go as I normally go out cycling on a Sunday morning so depending on the time i get back usually determines if i have time to go to the match but i'll have to pay £19 for a league game...That's too much of a hike, that surely will have an impact on attendances?

Why the need for a difference in price on the day and pre booking?

classic economics. Why do you get cheaper flights if you book in advance? The loyal supporter who is going to go rain, hail or shine gets a discount if they buy during the week, but you get the full whack from the fickle supporter. A lot of people couldn't care less about the €5 but you provide a means of avoiding i for anyone for whom it is important.

Wasn't impressed with you Blue calling me a fickle supporter so i ordered my ticket online there...

One thing i wasn't sure about was it issued me with a seat number on the ticket but i'm taking my son with me who is free in so where is he sitting? I'll assume the seat number is a generic thing and it's first come first served for the main stand
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 06, 2019, 02:25:37 PM
Quote
A decrease in the football championship attendance figures has hit the GAA hard in the pocket.

The association’s new Director of Finance Ger Mulryan presented his first annual report today and it shows an overall drop in gate receipts from €34,391,635 to €29,575,091.

Despite the introduction of the Super 8s, the money generated from the football championship fell by €3,695,115.


That's bad because the group stage for the last eight was mainly brought in to make up for money lost on previous year attendances.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on February 06, 2019, 03:44:16 PM
Decrease in Ulster because they hacked up the prices
Decrease in Leinster because it's become irrelevant
Decrease in AI because the peasants don't turn up with mouths agape to look at Dublin any more, plus the Last 8 series meant a lot stayed at home from the Croker round.
And tightening up the timescale doesn't help.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 06, 2019, 04:41:28 PM
Plus the Dubs are actually poorly supportered once the bandwagoners fall away
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Itchy on February 06, 2019, 04:44:46 PM
Plus the Dubs are actually poorly supportered once the bandwagoners fall away

Thats not true, always had great support during the league games that i was at.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: trailer on February 06, 2019, 04:53:45 PM
Plus the Dubs are actually poorly supportered once the bandwagoners fall away

Dubs are definitely one of the best supported teams about and always bring a serious colour and atmosphere where ever they go. The more they're out of Croke park the better for everyone.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 06, 2019, 05:19:38 PM
Plus the Dubs are actually poorly supportered once the bandwagoners fall away

Thats not true, always had great support during the league games that i was at.

Define great support? and take into account the population that Dublin have while doing it.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on February 06, 2019, 06:12:58 PM
Plus the Dubs are actually poorly supportered once the bandwagoners fall away

Dubs are definitely one of the best supported teams about and always bring a serious colour and atmosphere where ever they go. The more they're out of Croke park the better for everyone.

If Croke Park was in any other county and they were continually winning provincial and AI’s, there’d be huge crowds in attendance too.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on February 06, 2019, 06:35:56 PM
Plus the Dubs are actually poorly supportered once the bandwagoners fall away

Thats not true, always had great support during the league games that i was at.

Define great support? and take into account the population that Dublin have while doing it.
Must have been 1,500 Monaghans in the Hyde last Sunday.
2.5% of their population.
Equivalent of 35,000 Dublin fans.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 06, 2019, 07:10:36 PM
Plus the Dubs are actually poorly supportered once the bandwagoners fall away

Thats not true, always had great support during the league games that i was at.

Define great support? and take into account the population that Dublin have while doing it.
Must have been 1,500 Monaghans in the Hyde last Sunday.
2.5% of their population.
Equivalent of 35,000 Dublin fans.
No train from Monaghan either
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on February 10, 2019, 10:22:03 AM
11,982 In Tralee
9,749 in the Prentypark
667 last weekend at Tipp/Fermanagh.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on March 17, 2019, 10:34:05 PM
18k in Croke Park today!

19,927 is the attendance in Croke Park yesterday!


Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: clarshack on March 18, 2019, 10:59:41 PM
18k in Croke Park today!

19,927 is the attendance in Croke Park yesterday!

There were over 28,000 at the Dublin v Tyrone league game at Croke Park 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 18, 2019, 11:16:07 PM
18k in Croke Park today!

19,927 is the attendance in Croke Park yesterday!
You must be over the moon.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on March 18, 2019, 11:39:16 PM
18k in Croke Park today!

19,927 is the attendance in Croke Park yesterday!
You must be over the moon.

Not in regards the Club final!
But yes, I am happy as regards the Golden Childs home league game!

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Redhand Santa on March 19, 2019, 08:32:49 AM
18k in Croke Park today!

19,927 is the attendance in Croke Park yesterday!

There were over 28,000 at the Dublin v Tyrone league game at Croke Park 2 years ago.

I thought 20,000 was still a fairly healthy attendance given the weather, the fact that it was being portrayed Tyrone had no chance and the fact it was st patricks weekend with a lot of other distractions. I think if you went back to the fixture 4 years ago that was played on st patricks weekend there was only 16/17000 at it.

But I do think the gaa are missing a huge trick on a game like this. They have proved in the past that when they market a match like this and turn it into an event they get huge crowds. Why they didn't try to tie it in with the st Patrick celebrations I can't work out. Have a big parade and lights show after the game and market it properly. You'd have got loads of tourists and people going for the event and it would have been a great pre st patricks day celebration.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: thewobbler on March 19, 2019, 08:43:09 AM
18k in Croke Park today!

19,927 is the attendance in Croke Park yesterday!

There were over 28,000 at the Dublin v Tyrone league game at Croke Park 2 years ago.

I thought 20,000 was still a fairly healthy attendance given the weather, the fact that it was being portrayed Tyrone had no chance and the fact it was st patricks weekend with a lot of other distractions. I think if you went back to the fixture 4 years ago that was played on st patricks weekend there was only 16/17000 at it.

But I do think the gaa are missing a huge trick on a game like this. They have proved in the past that when they market a match like this and turn it into an event they get huge crowds. Why they didn't try to tie it in with the st Patrick celebrations I can't work out. Have a big parade and lights show after the game and market it properly. You'd have got loads of tourists and people going for the event and it would have been a great pre st patricks day celebration.

Or why didn’t they just play it in Parnell Park.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Redhand Santa on March 19, 2019, 08:49:02 AM
18k in Croke Park today!

19,927 is the attendance in Croke Park yesterday!

There were over 28,000 at the Dublin v Tyrone league game at Croke Park 2 years ago.

I thought 20,000 was still a fairly healthy attendance given the weather, the fact that it was being portrayed Tyrone had no chance and the fact it was st patricks weekend with a lot of other distractions. I think if you went back to the fixture 4 years ago that was played on st patricks weekend there was only 16/17000 at it.

But I do think the gaa are missing a huge trick on a game like this. They have proved in the past that when they market a match like this and turn it into an event they get huge crowds. Why they didn't try to tie it in with the st Patrick celebrations I can't work out. Have a big parade and lights show after the game and market it properly. You'd have got loads of tourists and people going for the event and it would have been a great pre st patricks day celebration.

Or why didn’t they just play it in Parnell Park.

I'd imagine with current health and safety you wouldn't get much more than 10,000 in parnell park. So straight away you'd have been turning half the crowd away. I personally think we should be encouraging more people to go to league games not turn them away. If that game on Saturday had been marketed right with an event after the game you could easily have got 50,000 at it.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 19, 2019, 09:23:26 AM
18k in Croke Park today!

19,927 is the attendance in Croke Park yesterday!

There were over 28,000 at the Dublin v Tyrone league game at Croke Park 2 years ago.

I thought 20,000 was still a fairly healthy attendance given the weather, the fact that it was being portrayed Tyrone had no chance and the fact it was st patricks weekend with a lot of other distractions. I think if you went back to the fixture 4 years ago that was played on st patricks weekend there was only 16/17000 at it.

But I do think the gaa are missing a huge trick on a game like this. They have proved in the past that when they market a match like this and turn it into an event they get huge crowds. Why they didn't try to tie it in with the st Patrick celebrations I can't work out. Have a big parade and lights show after the game and market it properly. You'd have got loads of tourists and people going for the event and it would have been a great pre st patricks day celebration.

Or why didn’t they just play it in Parnell Park.

I'd imagine with current health and safety you wouldn't get much more than 10,000 in parnell park. So straight away you'd have been turning half the crowd away. I personally think we should be encouraging more people to go to league games not turn them away. If that game on Saturday had been marketed right with an event after the game you could easily have got 50,000 at it.
make it all ticket in Parnell and create a demand for tickets
create a buzz about it
better to have a full 10,000 than a paltry 20k in Croker
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Redhand Santa on March 19, 2019, 09:26:15 AM
18k in Croke Park today!

19,927 is the attendance in Croke Park yesterday!

There were over 28,000 at the Dublin v Tyrone league game at Croke Park 2 years ago.

I thought 20,000 was still a fairly healthy attendance given the weather, the fact that it was being portrayed Tyrone had no chance and the fact it was st patricks weekend with a lot of other distractions. I think if you went back to the fixture 4 years ago that was played on st patricks weekend there was only 16/17000 at it.

But I do think the gaa are missing a huge trick on a game like this. They have proved in the past that when they market a match like this and turn it into an event they get huge crowds. Why they didn't try to tie it in with the st Patrick celebrations I can't work out. Have a big parade and lights show after the game and market it properly. You'd have got loads of tourists and people going for the event and it would have been a great pre st patricks day celebration.

Or why didn’t they just play it in Parnell Park.

I'd imagine with current health and safety you wouldn't get much more than 10,000 in parnell park. So straight away you'd have been turning half the crowd away. I personally think we should be encouraging more people to go to league games not turn them away. If that game on Saturday had been marketed right with an event after the game you could easily have got 50,000 at it.
make it all ticket in Parnell and create a demand for tickets
create a buzz about it
better to have a full 10,000 than a paltry 20k in Croker

It's still turning away half the crowd. And why not aim to have 50,000 plus at it in croke park by turning it into an event and creating a buzz around it that way? We should be encouraging people to go to games like this not turn them away.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on March 19, 2019, 09:34:47 AM
How about making football attractive to watch and we might get 25% more people going to all  games?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Redhand Santa on March 19, 2019, 09:38:47 AM
How about making football attractive to watch and we might get 25% more people going to all  games?

Football is evolving all the time. There has been plenty of good games in the league this year. And plenty of shocks with the Dubs beat three times. There has been lots of direct football played. Hopefully it continues come the championship.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on March 19, 2019, 11:52:30 AM
How about making football attractive to watch and we might get 25% more people going to all  games?

No, have a mini St. Particks day Parade in Croke Park with fireworks. That will get the crowds out. 50K will come! Do the same the next day. Everybody loves the Club finals on St. Patricks day. Everybody wants to be in Croker to see the romance of the AI Club finals.

Do other sports have sideshows? Why can't we just sell the product? Is there no product to sell anymore?



Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: highorlow on March 19, 2019, 12:10:19 PM
With Galway, Kilkenny and Kerry clubs involved it’s no surprise with such a poor support. They hardly get behind their counties.

If a Mayo or Ulster club were in the final you would have a good overall county support backing their clubs.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Redhand Santa on March 19, 2019, 12:39:23 PM
How about making football attractive to watch and we might get 25% more people going to all  games?

No, have a mini St. Particks day Parade in Croke Park with fireworks. That will get the crowds out. 50K will come! Do the same the next day. Everybody loves the Club finals on St. Patricks day. Everybody wants to be in Croker to see the romance of the AI Club finals.

Do other sports have sideshows? Why can't we just sell the product? Is there no product to sell anymore?

Rugby has been very successful at marketing their games and turning it into a night out with a few drinks. They only have to focus on 4 teams and have the international dimension that makes it a bit easier. Darts boxing have attracted good crowds by marketing it as a night out.

In the recent past croke park was full for a league final on the back of a 1916 show. It was full for 2 Tyrone league games when properly marketed - one of them being the 125 year anniversary show which involved fireworks etc.

With all the negativity from the press around gaa - much of it unwarranted and other sports having a much better media presence anything that helps get people into the games should be welcomed. It would also open the games to new markets including tourists and why not encourage as many of them to attend our games as possible.

Some of you lads and in particular yourself are unbelievably negative about everything.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: naka on March 19, 2019, 12:46:39 PM
How about making football attractive to watch and we might get 25% more people going to all  games?
how about cutting the costs
£19 in to watch Armagh at the weekend and stood on a gravel bank
not much comfort
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on March 19, 2019, 12:58:49 PM
How about making football attractive to watch and we might get 25% more people going to all  games?
how about cutting the costs
£19 in to watch Armagh at the weekend and stood on a gravel bank
not much comfort

Yes, exactly.

Wasn’t it £14 last year? I thought that was too much. HQ are just taking the piss now.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on March 19, 2019, 01:35:12 PM
18k in Croke Park today!

19,927 is the attendance in Croke Park yesterday!

There were over 28,000 at the Dublin v Tyrone league game at Croke Park 2 years ago.

I thought 20,000 was still a fairly healthy attendance given the weather, the fact that it was being portrayed Tyrone had no chance and the fact it was st patricks weekend with a lot of other distractions. I think if you went back to the fixture 4 years ago that was played on st patricks weekend there was only 16/17000 at it.

But I do think the gaa are missing a huge trick on a game like this. They have proved in the past that when they market a match like this and turn it into an event they get huge crowds. Why they didn't try to tie it in with the st Patrick celebrations I can't work out. Have a big parade and lights show after the game and market it properly. You'd have got loads of tourists and people going for the event and it would have been a great pre st patricks day celebration.

Or why didn’t they just play it in Parnell Park.

Feck all atmosphere in Parnell Park. They could have played it out of Dublin, say Thurles.

£19 in to watch Armagh at the weekend and stood on a gravel bank
not much comfort

you got to breathe the good Cross' air.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: naka on March 19, 2019, 01:59:00 PM
18k in Croke Park today!

19,927 is the attendance in Croke Park yesterday!

There were over 28,000 at the Dublin v Tyrone league game at Croke Park 2 years ago.

I thought 20,000 was still a fairly healthy attendance given the weather, the fact that it was being portrayed Tyrone had no chance and the fact it was st patricks weekend with a lot of other distractions. I think if you went back to the fixture 4 years ago that was played on st patricks weekend there was only 16/17000 at it.

But I do think the gaa are missing a huge trick on a game like this. They have proved in the past that when they market a match like this and turn it into an event they get huge crowds. Why they didn't try to tie it in with the st Patrick celebrations I can't work out. Have a big parade and lights show after the game and market it properly. You'd have got loads of tourists and people going for the event and it would have been a great pre st patricks day celebration.

Or why didn’t they just play it in Parnell Park.

Feck all atmosphere in Parnell Park. They could have played it out of Dublin, say Thurles.

£19 in to watch Armagh at the weekend and stood on a gravel bank
not much comfort

you got to breathe the good Cross' air.
am surprised I wasn't charged for that as well
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Blowitupref on March 19, 2019, 03:11:11 PM
How about making football attractive to watch and we might get 25% more people going to all  games?
how about cutting the costs
£19 in to watch Armagh at the weekend and stood on a gravel bank
not much comfort

Yes, exactly.

Wasn’t it £14 last year? I thought that was too much. HQ are just taking the piss now.

Looking at the attendance figures this spring HQ will have no choice but to cut the cost of ticket prices for next year.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 19, 2019, 03:15:07 PM
How about making football attractive to watch and we might get 25% more people going to all  games?
how about cutting the costs
£19 in to watch Armagh at the weekend and stood on a gravel bank
not much comfort

Yes, exactly.

Wasn’t it £14 last year? I thought that was too much. HQ are just taking the piss now.

Looking at the attendance figures this spring HQ will have no choice but to cut the cost of ticket prices for next year.
Not much chance of that
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on March 19, 2019, 04:12:04 PM
How about making football attractive to watch and we might get 25% more people going to all  games?
how about cutting the costs
£19 in to watch Armagh at the weekend and stood on a gravel bank
not much comfort

Yes, exactly.

Wasn’t it £14 last year? I thought that was too much. HQ are just taking the piss now.

Looking at the attendance figures this spring HQ will have no choice but to cut the cost of ticket prices for next year.
Not much chance of that

I agree. Even though they know attendances have fallen, they’ll still spout the same old shite: great value for money, we offer u-16s free, nothing beats being there, sure look at rugby/soccer prices we are much cheaper, blah blah. It’ll be just like listening to the DUP.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: lurganblue on March 19, 2019, 04:23:00 PM
No chance they will drop the prices. Championship prices are probably about to be hiked too.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Blowitupref on March 19, 2019, 04:32:14 PM
I believe championship prices have been increased and that will need a re-think also. There is a good chance they will go back to 2018 prices for the league next year IMO. I think we all know the increase came at a time when the Pairc ui chaoimh bill needs to be paid but allowing attendance figures to decrease for their best run competition is poor business sense.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Redhand Santa on March 19, 2019, 05:01:12 PM
You can still buy tickets for £14, you just need to buy them in advance of the games. Presumably this is to cut down staff needed on the day and money being handled.

Are attendances definitely down? Not sure about the other divisions (I don't think division 3 and 4 prices changed anyway) but there has been plenty of healthy attendances in division 1 this year. Tralee sold out twice for games and another 12,000 at Tyrone Kerry in Killarney. Mayo had big numbers at their home games and there was a big crowd at Dublin Mayo. Even 20,000 on Saturday night for Tyrone Dublin wasn't bad.

Seemed to be plenty of decent crowds at the hurling too.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on March 19, 2019, 05:16:56 PM
You can still buy tickets for £14, you just need to buy them in advance of the games. Presumably this is to cut down staff needed on the day and money being handled.

Are attendances definitely down? Not sure about the other divisions (I don't think division 3 and 4 prices changed anyway) but there has been plenty of healthy attendances in division 1 this year. Tralee sold out twice for games and another 12,000 at Tyrone Kerry in Killarney. Mayo had big numbers at their home games and there was a big crowd at Dublin Mayo. Even 20,000 on Saturday night for Tyrone Dublin wasn't bad.

Seemed to be plenty of decent crowds at the hurling too.

Probably due to high sale of season tickets, as Kerry Mayo Dublin Tyrone etcwould be highly likely to go far in the championship. Other counties I’d say attendances we’re down.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: thewobbler on March 19, 2019, 05:23:55 PM
Rugby grounds are the perfect size for rugby crowds. They tend to look busy because finding 20,000 more-than-casually-interested patrons from one province isn’t overly difficult. Yet there’s a bloody good reason why Thomond and Ravenhill weren’t rebuilt as 35k venues. Even with an “entire province” behind them.

As such It’s an odd thing to believe, that there are 50,000 people in Ireland who would happily give up a family day to travel to Croke Park, and sit in the freezing cold, watching teams they have little-to-no interest in.

Club finals day is the showcase of a parish-level competition. Only the biggest parishes in Ireland have more than a thousand genuinely interested patrons. You simply cannot expect 80-90% of your audience at a sporting event to be of the casually interested sort.

Throwing in a few fireworks and a novelty band won’t change that.

Now if we could do a public hanging or something like that on the undercard, you might have a chance.

——-

Also, if Dublin v Tyrone in the NFL is of little interest to the average joe from Dublin or Tyrone, it’s more than a touch expectant to think that tourists would revel in such an occasion.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Saffrongael on March 19, 2019, 05:24:22 PM
How about making football attractive to watch and we might get 25% more people going to all  games?

Football is evolving all the time. There has been plenty of good games in the league this year. And plenty of shocks with the Dubs beat three times. There has been lots of direct football played. Hopefully it continues come the championship.

Hurling crowds poor

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/columnists/john-fogarty/far-from-the-madding-crowds-of-days-gone-by-911838.html
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 19, 2019, 07:49:11 PM
With Galway, Kilkenny and Kerry clubs involved it’s no surprise with such a poor support. They hardly get behind their counties.

If a Mayo or Ulster club were in the final you would have a good overall county support backing their clubs.

There are Galway clubs playing on Paddy's Day most years between football and hurling and the attendance has never been that low. Must have been a reason for it this year.

And Corofin v Dr Crokes was considered a "dream final" so to speak yet the attendance was down massively.

Both hurling clubs in the final come from very small parishes so they are not going to account for many by themselves.

To me it looks like they didn't get as many neutrals in as other years for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Maiden1 on March 19, 2019, 08:01:21 PM
With Galway, Kilkenny and Kerry clubs involved it’s no surprise with such a poor support. They hardly get behind their counties.

If a Mayo or Ulster club were in the final you would have a good overall county support backing their clubs.

There are Galway clubs playing on Paddy's Day most years between football and hurling and the attendance has never been that low. Must have been a reason for it this year.

And Corofin v Dr Crokes was considered a "dream final" so to speak yet the attendance was down massively.

Both hurling clubs in the final come from very small parishes so they are not going to account for many by themselves.

To me it looks like they didn't get as many neutrals in as other years for whatever reason.
With Corofin being so successful in recent years would they get much supporters from other Galway clubs?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 19, 2019, 10:26:42 PM
With Galway, Kilkenny and Kerry clubs involved it’s no surprise with such a poor support. They hardly get behind their counties.

If a Mayo or Ulster club were in the final you would have a good overall county support backing their clubs.

There are Galway clubs playing on Paddy's Day most years between football and hurling and the attendance has never been that low. Must have been a reason for it this year.

And Corofin v Dr Crokes was considered a "dream final" so to speak yet the attendance was down massively.

Both hurling clubs in the final come from very small parishes so they are not going to account for many by themselves.

To me it looks like they didn't get as many neutrals in as other years for whatever reason.
With Corofin being so successful in recent years would they get much supporters from other Galway clubs?
Most diehard Galway fans were already at a county gsme the day before
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on March 19, 2019, 10:41:53 PM
With Galway, Kilkenny and Kerry clubs involved it’s no surprise with such a poor support. They hardly get behind their counties.

If a Mayo or Ulster club were in the final you would have a good overall county support backing their clubs.

There are Galway clubs playing on Paddy's Day most years between football and hurling and the attendance has never been that low. Must have been a reason for it this year.

And Corofin v Dr Crokes was considered a "dream final" so to speak yet the attendance was down massively.

Both hurling clubs in the final come from very small parishes so they are not going to account for many by themselves.

To me it looks like they didn't get as many neutrals in as other years for whatever reason.

Could be a cost issue too.

While I’m 90 minutes+ from Croke Park, I’m not likely to be one of said neutrals on St Patrick’s Day. Nor would I imagine there’d be many neutrals from Galway or Kerry, given the distance.

I have been down for a couple of AI club finals when Crossmaglen were involved. Last was 2012 I think, and the tickets were €25 then if I remember correct. I’m sure they’re €30 or more now. So it all adds up, particularly if you’re attending your county’s league game the same weekend.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Saffrongael on March 19, 2019, 10:46:29 PM
I was at games on Sunday as a neutral, tickets are still €25.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 19, 2019, 11:25:33 PM
How about making football attractive to watch and we might get 25% more people going to all  games?

Are Ros that Bad?  ;)
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Redhand Santa on March 20, 2019, 08:27:16 AM
Rugby grounds are the perfect size for rugby crowds. They tend to look busy because finding 20,000 more-than-casually-interested patrons from one province isn’t overly difficult. Yet there’s a bloody good reason why Thomond and Ravenhill weren’t rebuilt as 35k venues. Even with an “entire province” behind them.

As such It’s an odd thing to believe, that there are 50,000 people in Ireland who would happily give up a family day to travel to Croke Park, and sit in the freezing cold, watching teams they have little-to-no interest in.

Club finals day is the showcase of a parish-level competition. Only the biggest parishes in Ireland have more than a thousand genuinely interested patrons. You simply cannot expect 80-90% of your audience at a sporting event to be of the casually interested sort.

Throwing in a few fireworks and a novelty band won’t change that.

Now if we could do a public hanging or something like that on the undercard, you might have a chance.

——-

Also, if Dublin v Tyrone in the NFL is of little interest to the average joe from Dublin or Tyrone, it’s more than a touch expectant to think that tourists would revel in such an occasion.

In the past the gaa have made an effort to market two Tyrone Dublin games - the 125 anniversary and the first game under lights. Also the Dublin Kerry league final in 2016 when they had the easter rising show. All those games attracted full houses.

Saturday's Tyrone Dublin game attracted little or no marketing. I'm sure with a bit of effort and turning it into a bit of an event you could have got a very big crowd especially with Dublin being so busy at the weekend. You couldn't do this with every league game but you could certainly pick out one or two games in the year that you could do something with.

And given St Patrick is the patron saint of Ireland celebrating the day as part of a gaa event makes sense and there is no better place to hold a show than croke park. And it's the show element that will help attract the tourists and then get to promote and show of our own games when they are there.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Bord na Mona man on March 20, 2019, 02:08:55 PM
When St Patrick's Day falls midweek the attendances at the club finals are higher. At weekends, the potential walk in crowd of neutrals in diminished by people going away for a long weekend.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: highorlow on March 21, 2019, 09:14:50 AM
Quote
When St Patrick's Day falls midweek the attendances at the club finals are higher. At weekends, the potential walk in crowd of neutrals in diminished by people going away for a long weekend.

How did this years crowd compare to last years?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on March 22, 2019, 10:56:33 AM
I see there's a possibility the NHL Final will be in Croke Park with the D1 NFL Final.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 22, 2019, 12:23:59 PM
I see there's a possibility the NHL Final will be in Croke Park with the D1 NFL Final.

If they want an attendance play it in Limerick, will be a massive crowd great atmosphere. Good enough for an All-Ireland Semi-final. I am sure someone will shout but but but a National Final should be played in Croke Park.

Limerick v Waterford/Galway
Kerry v Mayo/Galway
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: waterfordlad on March 30, 2019, 09:46:31 AM
 13000 plus at hurling league semi finals in Kilkenny last weekend. Not a great crowd but in fairness it's a long trip from Galway and parts of Limerick to Kilkenny. Dublin don't have a big travelling support for hurling. Waterford hard core league support of a few thousand did make the short journey.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on May 13, 2019, 01:33:53 PM
Leinster SFC bombs again.
3,800 out of almost 400k population at Kildare v Wicklow.
1,300 Wexford v Louth.
Didn't see any figure for Navan.
Meanwhile 8,061 in the Hyde, 10,116 in Omagh.
Just over 2,100 at each of the Munster SFCs.
The Hurley stuff -
 30k Cork v Tipp. 11,012 at Walsh Park, 9.5k Nowlan Park and 6,097 Pearse Stadium.
3k quoted at Laois v Offaly.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: trailer on May 13, 2019, 02:18:21 PM
The hurling looked unreal. 30k. Blue sky. Great game. Deadly stuff. Shows what can be achieved when teams are evenly matched!
I was in Omagh and while it didn't rain unlike normally, it was uninspiring stuff.

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: johnnycool on May 13, 2019, 02:30:57 PM
The hurling looked unreal. 30k. Blue sky. Great game. Deadly stuff. Shows what can be achieved when teams are evenly matched and go out to win a game rather than attempt to not get beat.
I was in Omagh and while it didn't rain unlike normally, it was uninspiring stuff.

Different mindset in the top level hurling.

Some teams do filter back down field but it really doesn't have the same impact in hurling where scores can be got 80 metres out.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: seafoid on May 14, 2019, 08:06:35 AM
The hurling looked unreal. 30k. Blue sky. Great game. Deadly stuff. Shows what can be achieved when teams are evenly matched and go out to win a game rather than attempt to not get beat.
I was in Omagh and while it didn't rain unlike normally, it was uninspiring stuff.

Different mindset in the top level hurling.

Some teams do filter back down field but it really doesn't have the same impact in hurling where scores can be got 80 metres out.
Football doesn't really have hurling events like the full back emerging from a sea of bodies and lamping the ball near the full forward line or the Centre Half back running forward and sending the ball over the bar , both accompanied by huge roars from the crowd. 
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Redhand Santa on May 14, 2019, 08:32:40 AM
The hurling looked unreal. 30k. Blue sky. Great game. Deadly stuff. Shows what can be achieved when teams are evenly matched and go out to win a game rather than attempt to not get beat.
I was in Omagh and while it didn't rain unlike normally, it was uninspiring stuff.

Different mindset in the top level hurling.

Some teams do filter back down field but it really doesn't have the same impact in hurling where scores can be got 80 metres out.
Football doesn't really have hurling events like the full back emerging from a sea of bodies and lamping the ball near the full forward line or the Centre Half back running forward and sending the ball over the bar , both accompanied by huge roars from the crowd.

No instead you can get some great fast moving team moves. Look for example at Tyrone's goal on Sunday. Pinpoint kickout 60/70 yards, a great flick on to a man in space, an intelligent cross field ball followed by a dummy and finish to the bottom of the net.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: seafoid on May 14, 2019, 09:03:18 AM
The hurling looked unreal. 30k. Blue sky. Great game. Deadly stuff. Shows what can be achieved when teams are evenly matched and go out to win a game rather than attempt to not get beat.
I was in Omagh and while it didn't rain unlike normally, it was uninspiring stuff.

Different mindset in the top level hurling.

Some teams do filter back down field but it really doesn't have the same impact in hurling where scores can be got 80 metres out.
Football doesn't really have hurling events like the full back emerging from a sea of bodies and lamping the ball near the full forward line or the Centre Half back running forward and sending the ball over the bar , both accompanied by huge roars from the crowd.

No instead you can get some great fast moving team moves. Look for example at Tyrone's goal on Sunday. Pinpoint kickout 60/70 yards, a great flick on to a man in space, an intelligent cross field ball followed by a dummy and finish to the bottom of the net.
I love those as well especially when the crowd gets going
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 15, 2019, 10:59:50 AM
Less than 4k at Kildare v Wicklow. Leinster Championship has died a slow painful death. That they charged €25 for a seat shows how disenfranchised it has all become. €10 to watch Kildare's Minor B team play Kilkenny.....people are voting with their feet.

Less than 20K expected at the Dublin/Louth and Meath/Carlow double header in Portlaoise. A double header fixture that 20 years ago would have brought 60k+ to Croke Park. The "The GAA need a strong Dublin" has to be one of the greatest sporting folly's of all time....
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on May 15, 2019, 12:57:24 PM
It's certainly coming back to bite them in the behind now especially in the basically defunct Leinster SFC.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on May 15, 2019, 03:20:47 PM
It's certainly coming back to bite them in the behind now especially in the basically defunct Leinster SFC.

It’s become the now defunct All Ireland Championship as well. And not just because Dublin are dominating. The whole thing is a total shambles. That’s why interest and attendances are through the floor.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: clonadmad on May 15, 2019, 03:37:33 PM
Meanwhile attendances are on track to match or beat the 250k who paid in to watch the Munster Hurling Championship in 2018
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Blowitupref on May 15, 2019, 04:03:30 PM
Less than 4k at Kildare v Wicklow. Leinster Championship has died a slow painful death. That they charged €25 for a seat shows how disenfranchised it has all become. €10 to watch Kildare's Minor B team play Kilkenny.....people are voting with their feet.

Less than 20K expected at the Dublin/Louth and Meath/Carlow double header in Portlaoise. A double header fixture that 20 years ago would have brought 60k+ to Croke Park. The "The GAA need a strong Dublin" has to be one of the greatest sporting folly's of all time....
Crazy prices. Should be no more than €15 for early round provincial championship games.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on May 15, 2019, 05:19:30 PM
Less than 4k at Kildare v Wicklow. Leinster Championship has died a slow painful death. That they charged €25 for a seat shows how disenfranchised it has all become. €10 to watch Kildare's Minor B team play Kilkenny.....people are voting with their feet.

€3 for a programme that was a combined programme for three seperate games at three seperate venues across two days. Comhairle Laighean are a joke.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: dec on May 15, 2019, 09:30:40 PM
Less than 4k at Kildare v Wicklow. Leinster Championship has died a slow painful death. That they charged €25 for a seat shows how disenfranchised it has all become. €10 to watch Kildare's Minor B team play Kilkenny.....people are voting with their feet.

Looks like the Kildare/Wicklow game was played in Carlow. Is that usual for Leinster first round games?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on May 15, 2019, 09:36:41 PM
Less than 4k at Kildare v Wicklow. Leinster Championship has died a slow painful death. That they charged €25 for a seat shows how disenfranchised it has all become. €10 to watch Kildare's Minor B team play Kilkenny.....people are voting with their feet.


People are not voting with their feet. People have moved on. There are more entertaining and cheaper ways to spend a Sunday afternoon. 
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on May 15, 2019, 11:31:36 PM
Less than 4k at Kildare v Wicklow. Leinster Championship has died a slow painful death. That they charged €25 for a seat shows how disenfranchised it has all become. €10 to watch Kildare's Minor B team play Kilkenny.....people are voting with their feet.


People are not voting with their feet. People have moved on. There are more entertaining and cheaper ways to spend a Sunday afternoon.

Very much so. HQ are pricing a lot of people out of matches. Add in exclusive matches on Sky, and it’s no wonder young kids idolise Mo Salah rather than Michael Murphy.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Redhand Santa on May 16, 2019, 08:17:03 AM
Less than 4k at Kildare v Wicklow. Leinster Championship has died a slow painful death. That they charged €25 for a seat shows how disenfranchised it has all become. €10 to watch Kildare's Minor B team play Kilkenny.....people are voting with their feet.


People are not voting with their feet. People have moved on. There are more entertaining and cheaper ways to spend a Sunday afternoon.

Very much so. HQ are pricing a lot of people out of matches. Add in exclusive matches on Sky, and it’s no wonder young kids idolise Mo Salah rather than Michael Murphy.

The majority of soccer and rugby is shown exclusively on sky and it's a lot dearer to take a child to watch them, doesn't stop their players being idols.

The biggest problem in football at the minute is Dublin's dominance and the fall of in quality outside the top 4 or 5. Like Kilkenny's dominance in hurling the Dubs dominance won't last forever but it is damaging the longer it goes on.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 16, 2019, 10:12:48 AM
Less than 4k at Kildare v Wicklow. Leinster Championship has died a slow painful death. That they charged €25 for a seat shows how disenfranchised it has all become. €10 to watch Kildare's Minor B team play Kilkenny.....people are voting with their feet.


People are not voting with their feet. People have moved on. There are more entertaining and cheaper ways to spend a Sunday afternoon.

+1. Until GAA make all games some sort of event with abit of razzamatazz instead of the national anthem being sung through a coke tin and bars of chocolate available at the table behind the stand at half time.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on May 16, 2019, 10:37:06 AM
And I thought people went to see the match....
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Redhand Santa on May 16, 2019, 10:51:52 AM
People want cheap/free entry to the games, with entertainment provided in a nice fancy stadium. And if they can't make it to the game they want free to air tv coverage even if that means giving the rights away on the cheap.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on May 16, 2019, 10:56:29 AM
Meanwhile the Munster Council expect around 35k at Limerick/Cork and 22k at Tipp/Waterford hurling games.
Entertainment guaranteed and nice Stadiums too.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 16, 2019, 12:12:20 PM
People want cheap/free entry to the games, with entertainment provided in a nice fancy stadium. And if they can't make it to the game they want free to air tv coverage even if that means giving the rights away on the cheap.

I want value, if I go to CP I appreciate that there will be a supplement for that stadium. If I go to f*cking Carlow I don't expect to pay the same price for sh*t facilities. Plus the product as in the actual game is not entertaining anymore. 10 years ago I would have gone to both Leinster double headers Sunday week, struggling to motivate myself to the one featuring Kildare nevermind the Saturday games.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 16, 2019, 12:14:13 PM
Less than 4k at Kildare v Wicklow. Leinster Championship has died a slow painful death. That they charged €25 for a seat shows how disenfranchised it has all become. €10 to watch Kildare's Minor B team play Kilkenny.....people are voting with their feet.

Looks like the Kildare/Wicklow game was played in Carlow. Is that usual for Leinster first round games?

All Leinster Championship games are played at neutral venues unless you are Dublin, then until recently all their games were at home in CP, now it's just the semi-final as well as the final.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Redhand Santa on May 16, 2019, 12:52:34 PM
People want cheap/free entry to the games, with entertainment provided in a nice fancy stadium. And if they can't make it to the game they want free to air tv coverage even if that means giving the rights away on the cheap.

I want value, if I go to CP I appreciate that there will be a supplement for that stadium. If I go to f*cking Carlow I don't expect to pay the same price for sh*t facilities. Plus the product as in the actual game is not entertaining anymore. 10 years ago I would have gone to both Leinster double headers Sunday week, struggling to motivate myself to the one featuring Kildare nevermind the Saturday games.

Every sport will have good and bad games. There were a couple of really good games involving Kildare in last years championship against Mayo and Galway. The Kerry one also had a very good first half. Not sure about the other matches though the Monaghan one wasn't great.

I think due to years of negative commentary on the sport people judge football harsher than other sports. You don't see soccer fans/pundits focusing on one of many boring 0 0 games for too long.  In rugby you'll pay more into a pro 14 game versus an Italian team than many championship games which more often than that will turn into a hammering. For international tests/friendlies you are often asked to pay up to 100 quid with no 5 euro options for children.

That's not to say all is perfect with the gaa. They could reduce prices for the earlier championship games. And the Dubs dominance is a big issue as too many teams no longer have a realistic chance of winning anything. And in recent years too many teams have tried to park the bus, though the bigger teams have moved away from this.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: clonadmad on May 16, 2019, 12:52:47 PM
Meanwhile the Munster Council expect around 35k at Limerick/Cork and 22k at Tipp/Waterford hurling games.
Entertainment guaranteed and nice Stadiums too.

And Conpetiitive dog eat dog games with a huge amount at stake

Last weekend there were games in Cork City ,Kilkenny City  and Waterford City,all home venues for teams which helped the walk up,last minute crowd.

I’d expect the Waterford v Tipp game to break 25k

The Tipp v Clare game is nearly sold out already,better to have the sold out signs up in Waterford and Ennis,home games,packed house,hype than in a half full Gaelic grounds or thurles


Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on May 16, 2019, 01:06:21 PM
Less than 4k at Kildare v Wicklow. Leinster Championship has died a slow painful death. That they charged €25 for a seat shows how disenfranchised it has all become. €10 to watch Kildare's Minor B team play Kilkenny.....people are voting with their feet.


People are not voting with their feet. People have moved on. There are more entertaining and cheaper ways to spend a Sunday afternoon.

Very much so. HQ are pricing a lot of people out of matches. Add in exclusive matches on Sky, and it’s no wonder young kids idolise Mo Salah rather than Michael Murphy.

The majority of soccer and rugby is shown exclusively on sky and it's a lot dearer to take a child to watch them, doesn't stop their players being idols.

The biggest problem in football at the minute is Dublin's dominance and the fall of in quality outside the top 4 or 5. Like Kilkenny's dominance in hurling the Dubs dominance won't last forever but it is damaging the longer it goes on.

We are looking at nearly a decade already of dominance. Tyrone had a 6 year period where they won 3 AI's, 1 League title and 2 provincial.

Dublin in a 8 year period have won 6 AI's, 5 leagues and 8 Provincials. This is not a fad, this is a well financed machine, that is evolving rather than declining!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: seafoid on May 16, 2019, 01:14:10 PM
Less than 4k at Kildare v Wicklow. Leinster Championship has died a slow painful death. That they charged €25 for a seat shows how disenfranchised it has all become. €10 to watch Kildare's Minor B team play Kilkenny.....people are voting with their feet.


People are not voting with their feet. People have moved on. There are more entertaining and cheaper ways to spend a Sunday afternoon.

Very much so. HQ are pricing a lot of people out of matches. Add in exclusive matches on Sky, and it’s no wonder young kids idolise Mo Salah rather than Michael Murphy.

The majority of soccer and rugby is shown exclusively on sky and it's a lot dearer to take a child to watch them, doesn't stop their players being idols.

The biggest problem in football at the minute is Dublin's dominance and the fall of in quality outside the top 4 or 5. Like Kilkenny's dominance in hurling the Dubs dominance won't last forever but it is damaging the longer it goes on.

We are looking at nearly a decade already of dominance. Tyrone had a 6 year period where they won 3 AI's, 1 League title and 2 provincial.

Dublin in a 8 year period have won 6 AI's, 5 leagues and 8 Provincials. This is not a fad, this is a well financed machine, that is evolving rather than declining!

And attendances are falling

"Overall, the average attendances figures at the 39 games in the 2018 All-Ireland series – which includes the qualifiers, the Super 8s and the All-Ireland semi-final and final – was 13,225.
In 2017 when there were 33 games played in the football series the average attendance was 19,049."

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gate-receipts-and-attendances-for-football-championship-slid-alarmingly-in-2018-despite-the-introduction-of-the-super-8s-37788169.html

"On the vexed question of Games Development grants, Dublin continue to secure a lion share of the €9.6m paid out directly to counties.
Dublin received €1.3m – an increase on last year's figure of £1.2m. Meath were the next biggest recipients with €367,400 but Cork – which has more registered GAA teams than any other county – received just €249,000."

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: five points on May 16, 2019, 01:21:03 PM

And attendances are falling

"Overall, the average attendances figures at the 39 games in the 2018 All-Ireland series – which includes the qualifiers, the Super 8s and the All-Ireland semi-final and final – was 13,225.
In 2017 when there were 33 games played in the football series the average attendance was 19,049."


There's ample reason to believe that the innovations introduced in 2018 - a condensed calendar championship and not-so-Super8s - devastated both interest in the championship and attendances at the gate.

If this is true, expect the same in 2019.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on May 16, 2019, 02:19:27 PM
Less than 4k at Kildare v Wicklow. Leinster Championship has died a slow painful death. That they charged €25 for a seat shows how disenfranchised it has all become. €10 to watch Kildare's Minor B team play Kilkenny.....people are voting with their feet.


People are not voting with their feet. People have moved on. There are more entertaining and cheaper ways to spend a Sunday afternoon.

Very much so. HQ are pricing a lot of people out of matches. Add in exclusive matches on Sky, and it’s no wonder young kids idolise Mo Salah rather than Michael Murphy.

The majority of soccer and rugby is shown exclusively on sky and it's a lot dearer to take a child to watch them, doesn't stop their players being idols.

The biggest problem in football at the minute is Dublin's dominance and the fall of in quality outside the top 4 or 5. Like Kilkenny's dominance in hurling the Dubs dominance won't last forever but it is damaging the longer it goes on.

We are looking at nearly a decade already of dominance. Tyrone had a 6 year period where they won 3 AI's, 1 League title and 2 provincial.

Dublin in a 8 year period have won 6 AI's, 5 leagues and 8 Provincials. This is not a fad, this is a well financed machine, that is evolving rather than declining!

And attendances are falling

"Overall, the average attendances figures at the 39 games in the 2018 All-Ireland series – which includes the qualifiers, the Super 8s and the All-Ireland semi-final and final – was 13,225.
In 2017 when there were 33 games played in the football series the average attendance was 19,049."

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gate-receipts-and-attendances-for-football-championship-slid-alarmingly-in-2018-despite-the-introduction-of-the-super-8s-37788169.html

"On the vexed question of Games Development grants, Dublin continue to secure a lion share of the €9.6m paid out directly to counties.
Dublin received €1.3m – an increase on last year's figure of £1.2m. Meath were the next biggest recipients with €367,400 but Cork – which has more registered GAA teams than any other county – received just €249,000."

The GAA need a strong Dublin! Anyone who says other wise is only being “divisive and mean-spirited”.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on May 16, 2019, 02:27:55 PM
They'll soon have to bring in Provincial teams to provide meaningful opposition!!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: seafoid on May 16, 2019, 02:30:17 PM
They'll soon have to bring in Provincial teams to provide meaningful opposition!!
It's a bit like Leinster v Lansdowne in the football
the Dub machine vs Kildare or Meath who don't have access to the same pool of money
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on May 16, 2019, 02:36:24 PM
They'll soon have to bring in Provincial teams to provide meaningful opposition!!

It will be like the old Railway Cup!  :-*
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on May 16, 2019, 02:50:13 PM
There’s too many games. The novelty has worn off.  People can’t afford to go to all of them, especially in a short timeframe.

Take Monaghan last year. A few qualifiers, then Super 8’s - Croke Park, Clones, Galway. A week later back to Dublin for semi. That’s a lot of dough to be forking out in a month.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: seafoid on May 16, 2019, 03:22:35 PM
There’s too many games. The novelty has worn off.  People can’t afford to go to all of them, especially in a short timeframe.

Take Monaghan last year. A few qualifiers, then Super 8’s - Croke Park, Clones, Galway. A week later back to Dublin for semi. That’s a lot of dough to be forking out in a month.

Great idea
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on May 16, 2019, 06:00:16 PM
There’s too many games. The novelty has worn off.  People can’t afford to go to all of them, especially in a short timeframe.

Take Monaghan last year. A few qualifiers, then Super 8’s - Croke Park, Clones, Galway. A week later back to Dublin for semi. That’s a lot of dough to be forking out in a month.

Great idea

What is?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Blowitupref on May 18, 2019, 07:55:23 PM
Attendance at Breffni Park Saturday night was 13,496

15,112 for the Down v Armagh game today.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on May 21, 2019, 12:33:46 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/munster-championship-attendances-on-the-rise-925559.html
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 24, 2019, 11:43:19 AM
Saturday's double header (Dublin/Meath/Louth/Carlow) in Portlaoise still has stand tickets available!!!!

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: GetOverTheBar on May 24, 2019, 03:46:26 PM
With Antrim and Tyrone on TV....The result widely expected to be one sided. It'll be interesting to see just how many go to Armagh on Saturday. Can't see there being many at this one.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on May 24, 2019, 06:21:15 PM
With Antrim and Tyrone on TV....The result widely expected to be one sided. It'll be interesting to see just how many go to Armagh on Saturday. Can't see there being many at this one.

I reckon there’ll be a big crowd. Sure aren’t Tyrone playing at home.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: J70 on May 25, 2019, 06:02:37 PM
Doesn't look to be too many so far.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on May 25, 2019, 06:40:47 PM
Doesn't look to be too many so far.

Spectators or Antrim scores?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 25, 2019, 10:55:22 PM
14 380 in Portlaoise.

One things for sure the GAA need a strong Dublin.

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: hardstation on May 25, 2019, 10:58:59 PM
Doesn't look to be too many so far.
5409

Really wish we had a 32,000 seater for our home games.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on May 25, 2019, 11:04:41 PM
14 380 in Portlaoise.

One things for sure the GAA need a strong Dublin.


Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: kerryforsam19 on May 26, 2019, 02:06:05 AM
14 380 in Portlaoise.

One things for sure the GAA need a strong Dublin.

O'Connor Park is sold out tomorrow?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 26, 2019, 07:34:08 AM
14 380 in Portlaoise.

One things for sure the GAA need a strong Dublin.

O'Connor Park is sold out tomorrow?

If the attendance exceeds 10k today I will be shocked.

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 26, 2019, 07:43:15 AM
20,471 in MacHale Park last night.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on May 26, 2019, 10:57:14 AM
Small enough Ros turn out.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: manfromdelmonte on May 26, 2019, 11:20:24 AM
Ticket prices were a joke.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Blowitupref on June 02, 2019, 07:46:15 PM
16,716 for the Cavan v Armagh game today.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 02, 2019, 08:06:47 PM
18,1... at Clare/Tipp
10,784 Waterford/Limerick.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 02, 2019, 08:18:49 PM
Football semi-finals in Munster had 3128 at Cork/Limerick and 5037 at Clare/Kerry.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 02, 2019, 08:23:55 PM
Munster Final in Killarney this year?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: MayoBuck on June 02, 2019, 08:30:10 PM
Football semi-finals in Munster had 3128 at Cork/Limerick and 5037 at Clare/Kerry.

Having both clashing with the champions league final wasn't the wisest decision.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: larryin89 on June 02, 2019, 08:43:15 PM
Munster Final in Killarney this year?

Surely it's PUC , wasn't the deal made they play it there for any years owed . I'm sure there must be one more owed at least
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 02, 2019, 09:04:58 PM
Munster Final in Cork on Saturday 22 June.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 02, 2019, 09:22:11 PM
Thanks Hopper. Might take a trip to see the new Páirc.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on June 02, 2019, 09:28:08 PM
Football semi-finals in Munster had 3128 at Cork/Limerick and 5037 at Clare/Kerry.

Having both clashing with the champions league final wasn't the wisest decision.

The Authorities that be don't seem to understand that a majority of the modern GAA followers follow other sports as well. There is especially a huge cross over between Soccer and Gaelic interests.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on June 02, 2019, 09:49:37 PM
Football semi-finals in Munster had 3128 at Cork/Limerick and 5037 at Clare/Kerry.

Having both clashing with the champions league final wasn't the wisest decision.

The Authorities that be don't seem to understand that a majority of the modern GAA followers follow other sports as well. There is especially a huge cross over between Soccer and Gaelic interests.

Sure Cork football has poor following and Kerry only go to finals.

In fairness, you can blame CL final, but I doubt you’d have got much more at those. Munster championship is as dead as the emu.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 04, 2019, 12:18:09 PM
"The GAA needs a successful Dublin"
Wonder does the Leinster Council still agree?
https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/leinster-council-taking-a-big-hit-as-gate-receipts-continue-to-fall-38176762.html
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: mup on June 04, 2019, 03:15:29 PM
Im delighted for them. They were warned for years of the consequences of the financial doping of Dublin Gaa. Now its coming home to roost.

If there was a two fingered emoji I'd send it in their direction. Hope it continues for them.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on June 04, 2019, 03:32:13 PM
Im delighted for them. They were warned for years of the consequences of the financial doping of Dublin Gaa. Now its coming home to roost.

If there was a two fingered emoji I'd send it in their direction. Hope it continues for them.

Will this do?


Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: APM on June 04, 2019, 03:46:46 PM
The best supported teams are those that are on a mission to win their first All Ireland (after a long gap).  Tyrone pre-03, Armagh pre-02, Mayo, the Dubs pre 2011. 
There is lots of giddy excitement and every man, woman and child wants to be part of the mission to win.  After the first win, supporters become a bit more complacent, and a lot more sceptical. 

That's what's happening in Dublin.  The irony is that the GAA and Leinster Council would have been better off had Dublin kept knocking on the door a la Mayo.  They need a strong Dublin, but a dominant Dublin is the last thing they need. 
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on June 04, 2019, 04:11:34 PM
Im delighted for them. They were warned for years of the consequences of the financial doping of Dublin Gaa. Now its coming home to roost.

If there was a two fingered emoji I'd send it in their direction. Hope it continues for them.

+1
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: mup on June 04, 2019, 05:41:56 PM
Im delighted for them. They were warned for years of the consequences of the financial doping of Dublin Gaa. Now its coming home to roost.

If there was a two fingered emoji I'd send it in their direction. Hope it continues for them.

Will this do?




Perfect job. Thanks.  ;D
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 07, 2019, 12:49:18 PM
It's all the fault of scheduling
And if course mean spirited people who won't go to enjoy seeing a great team play football
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/leinster-bosses-not-worried-by-falling-attendances-929228.html
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: five points on June 07, 2019, 01:17:37 PM
Quote
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/leinster-bosses-not-worried-by-falling-attendances-929228.html

"The provincial chief admitted that just 16,000 tickets have been sold for Sunday’s doubleheader of Leinster semi-finals"

Wow.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 07, 2019, 01:23:58 PM
Quote
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/leinster-bosses-not-worried-by-falling-attendances-929228.html

"The provincial chief admitted that just 16,000 tickets have been sold for Sunday’s doubleheader of Leinster semi-finals"

Wow.

Wow indeed. He goes on to say he'd be happy to break 30k. Terrible but not surprising.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on June 07, 2019, 01:54:38 PM
2005 Dublin
2006 Dublin 
2007 Dublin
2008 Dublin
2009 Dublin
2011 Dublin
2012 Dublin
2013 Dublin
2014 Dublin
2015 Dublin
2016 Dublin
2017 Dublin
2018 Dublin

Wonder how the attendances are falling?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 07, 2019, 01:57:35 PM
2005 Dublin
2006 Dublin 
2007 Dublin
2008 Dublin
2009 Dublin
2011 Dublin
2012 Dublin
2013 Dublin
2014 Dublin
2015 Dublin
2016 Dublin
2017 Dublin
2018 Dublin

Wonder how the attendances are falling?

Condensed fixtures of course...
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on June 07, 2019, 02:24:39 PM
It's gas, Kildares demise is being blamed. No one is looking at Dublin's dominance.

Kildare's demise hits Croker crowd

from Hogan Stand


Leinster Council chairman Jim Bolger says the low turnout expected for Sunday's Leinster SFC semi-final double-header at Croke Park can be partly attributed to Kildare's decline.

Just 16,000 tickets had been sold for the Dublin v Kildare and Meath v Laois double bill on Thursday, and while it's predicted that the crowd will be around 30,000, it's almost half the 58,723 that attended the last provincial semi-final meeting of Dublin and Kildare - which was also part of a double-header - in 2011.

"I think that reflects on Kildare really, they were really up there at the time, probably in Division 1 which is always a help. Last year, Kildare had a great run in getting to the Super 8s and so on," Bolger is quoted as saying in the Irish Daily Star.

"So maybe now they will get some momentum and more supporters might come out for Sunday's game."
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 07, 2019, 02:28:50 PM
Ah sure blaming Dublin us just mean spirited  ::)
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 07, 2019, 02:35:17 PM
That's a ridiculous excuse from Jim Bolger. An almost full O'Connor park would carry a far better atmosphere than a sea of empty seats in Croke park for this semi final double header.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Blowitupref on June 07, 2019, 02:53:11 PM
Only 16k tickets sold between 4 counties thus far, what happened to Dublin's 35,000 core support that John Costello was talking about last spring?



Title: The Blue Roar..
Post by: rrhf on June 07, 2019, 03:13:11 PM
The Dubs sold the GAA a pup, promising them crowds they couldn’t deliver in exchange for grants funding etc...
in other words the blue roar is full of shit. Disgraceful attendances by Dublin fans who have lost interested in 5 in a row...that double header wouldn’t fill omagh..gaa need to look at attendances in Leinster and do away with that shitty provincial board. Couldn’t be adding up.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: dec on June 07, 2019, 03:56:49 PM
What price are the tickets for kids/students?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: lurganblue on June 07, 2019, 04:01:23 PM
What price are the tickets for kids/students?

Kids being charged is an absolute disgrace!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 07, 2019, 04:05:03 PM
Not Dublin related...but are the Monaghan/Fermanagh/Armagh/Cavan doubleheader tickets priced at Ulster championship prices or qualifier? Or is it separate depending from the county of purchase? Or are they all similar in price?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 07, 2019, 04:05:19 PM
What price are the tickets for kids/students?

Quote
 
Hogan Stand (No Concessions) – Pre Purchase Price – €30.00 Purchase on the Day – €35.00
Cusack Stand – Adult: Pre Purchase Price – €30.00 Purchase on the Day – €35.00 – Juveniles (U-16): €5.00
Davin Stand – Adult: Pre Purchase Price – €30.00 Purchase on the Day – €35.00 – Juveniles (U-16):€5.00
Note: Juveniles (U-16) must be accompanied by an Adult
Hill 16 – (No Concessions) – Pre Purchase Price – €20.00 Purchase on the Day – €25.00
Students & Senior Citizens (Cusack & Davin Stand Only):-
Purchase full price tickets and on the day of the match they can claim a rebate of €10 when they produce appropriate I.D. at Block D, Stiles 1 to 5 in the Cusack Stand (Rebate can only be claimed on entry into the stadium via BLOCK D prior to ENTERING THE STADIUM)
Wheelchair Tickets:-
The Wheelchair Ticket are free of charge and the Assistant’s ticket is €30
GROUP PASSES:- GROUP PASSES (Under 16’s) – DAVIN STAND ONLY
Groups Passes are provided for groups of Juveniles U-16 €5 each (you are permitted to bring 1 adult free with every ten Juveniles) any additional adults pay full price for their tickets 
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: lurganblue on June 07, 2019, 04:07:29 PM
Not Dublin related...but are the Monaghan/Fermanagh/Armagh/Cavan doubleheader tickets priced at Ulster championship prices or qualifier? Or is it separate depending from the county of purchase? Or are they all similar in price?

Qualifier I believe. 20 for a wooden bench this weekend when it was 25 last time out.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Maroon Manc on June 07, 2019, 04:11:06 PM
The top brass will be panicking at the state of this attendance, this certainly wasn't part of the plan.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 07, 2019, 04:45:05 PM
The Golden Goose has devoured all her chickens and stopped laying.
But  Officialdom still had it's heads in the sand blaming schedules and Kildare.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on June 07, 2019, 05:18:54 PM
it's almost half the 58,723 that attended the last provincial semi-final meeting of Dublin and Kildare - which was also part of a double-header - in 2011.

"I think that reflects on Kildare really, they were really up there at the time, probably in Division 1 which is always a help. Last year, Kildare had a great run in getting to the Super 8s and so on," Bolger is quoted as saying in the Irish Daily Star.


Kildare finished higher in the league this year than in 2011!

Serious stretch by the Leinster Chairman. Like most counties Kildare have a smallish core support who'll be there through thick and thin and a sizeable fair weather support when things are looking up. Kildare were desperate for most of the mid 2000s and brought poor crowds - I'd say there was only a few thousand of us there in Croke Park for Leinster games between 04-06 (Wexford 04, Wicklow/Westmeath/Laois 05, Offaly 06). That was at a time when Leinster games were drawing massive crowds. We're no worse now than we were then.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on June 07, 2019, 06:13:47 PM
The Golden Goose has devoured all her chickens and stopped laying.
But  Officialdom still had it's heads in the sand blaming schedules and Kildare.

Well, obviously they’re going to blame anyone but themselves, for fattening that Golden Goose.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: vetoldthe on June 07, 2019, 06:46:11 PM
The doubleheader should have been in tullamore
they would be some crack aroung the town
and some atmosphere at the games,
but no, its all about the Dubs
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on June 07, 2019, 08:11:34 PM
Not Dublin related...but are the Monaghan/Fermanagh/Armagh/Cavan doubleheader tickets priced at Ulster championship prices or qualifier? Or is it separate depending from the county of purchase? Or are they all similar in price?

Pat McGrane Stand Pre-Purchase: €20.00/£17.00 Match-Day €25.00/£20.00 Juveniles €5.00/£5.00 - RESERVED SEATING
Eastern Stand Pre-Purchase: €20.00/£17.00 Match-Day €25.00/£20.00 Juveniles €5.00/£5.00 - UNRESERVED SEATING
Terrace Pre-Purchase: €18.00/£15.00 Match-Day €20.00/£18.00 Juveniles €5.00/£5.00 - STANDING
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on June 08, 2019, 11:03:43 PM
What was the crowd at Tyrone Donegal?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 09, 2019, 12:10:00 AM
13,579.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Hound on June 09, 2019, 10:12:08 AM
it's almost half the 58,723 that attended the last provincial semi-final meeting of Dublin and Kildare - which was also part of a double-header - in 2011.

"I think that reflects on Kildare really, they were really up there at the time, probably in Division 1 which is always a help. Last year, Kildare had a great run in getting to the Super 8s and so on," Bolger is quoted as saying in the Irish Daily Star.


Kildare finished higher in the league this year than in 2011!

Serious stretch by the Leinster Chairman. Like most counties Kildare have a smallish core support who'll be there through thick and thin and a sizeable fair weather support when things are looking up. Kildare were desperate for most of the mid 2000s and brought poor crowds - I'd say there was only a few thousand of us there in Croke Park for Leinster games between 04-06 (Wexford 04, Wicklow/Westmeath/Laois 05, Offaly 06). That was at a time when Leinster games were drawing massive crowds. We're no worse now than we were then.
You kinda are. Than 2011 anyway.
You coulda/shoulda beat both Dublin and Donegal that year, yet within 13 or 14 months of the Donegal defeat in extra time through an extraordinary and unlikely point by Cassidy, both Dublin and Donegal had collected Sam while Kildare had entered an extreme downward spiral for some reason. 

The standard in the rest of Leinster from 2013 to 2018 has been pretty abysmal. Coinciding with Dublin having a really good team and manager has got us to where we are. Thankfully Meath and Kildare are least seem to be on an upward trajectory now
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on June 09, 2019, 10:28:03 AM
it's almost half the 58,723 that attended the last provincial semi-final meeting of Dublin and Kildare - which was also part of a double-header - in 2011.

"I think that reflects on Kildare really, they were really up there at the time, probably in Division 1 which is always a help. Last year, Kildare had a great run in getting to the Super 8s and so on," Bolger is quoted as saying in the Irish Daily Star.


Kildare finished higher in the league this year than in 2011!

Serious stretch by the Leinster Chairman. Like most counties Kildare have a smallish core support who'll be there through thick and thin and a sizeable fair weather support when things are looking up. Kildare were desperate for most of the mid 2000s and brought poor crowds - I'd say there was only a few thousand of us there in Croke Park for Leinster games between 04-06 (Wexford 04, Wicklow/Westmeath/Laois 05, Offaly 06). That was at a time when Leinster games were drawing massive crowds. We're no worse now than we were then.
You kinda are. Than 2011 anyway.
You coulda/shoulda beat both Dublin and Donegal that year, yet within 13 or 14 months of the Donegal defeat in extra time through an extraordinary and unlikely point by Cassidy, both Dublin and Donegal had collected Sam while Kildare had entered an extreme downward spiral for some reason. 

The standard in the rest of Leinster from 2013 to 2018 has been pretty abysmal. Coinciding with Dublin having a really good team and manager has got us to where we are. Thankfully Meath and Kildare are least seem to be on an upward trajectory now

It's 04-07 where I'm drawing the comparison. We had sunk back to post Tompkins/Fahy 1980s depths in those years. I think we only won four championship matches across those four years - Wicklow, Westmeath, Cavan and Roscommon. I think we went about five years without winning a minor championship match too in that period.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: High Fielder on June 09, 2019, 11:34:33 AM
Kildare 14/1 to beat Dublin today. The Dublin team would need to take to the pitch mouldy drunk for Kildare to have a squeak. Those odds would probably be bigger if it was anyone else in Leinster. I'm not aware of similar odds in any sport with two teams on the pitch. This is not sport any more and people have better things to be doing than forking out good money to watch their county being humiliated.

After today, and even before it, we will talk about tiers and other solutions. Truth is, inter county is a flawed concept. Dublin are professional or semi professional, call it what you like. I read yesterday that some of them are getting 6k for guest appearances. And good luck to them. But you can't compete with that. Not what it has become. Forget what it was, because that was a different time and place. We're in a different place altogether now, and the gap is being widened by the trappings of success. We're getting towards a county not being able to field a team. If you're a Wicklow player this morning, do you go back for more next year? The GAA are trading on blind loyalty, and I hate them for that.

There are some good footballers/hurlers in Wicklow, Leitrim and every other county in Ireland. It's a sad day when there is no vehicle to allow you to play at the highest level of whatever sport you participate in. Inter county is restrictive and full of inequality and unfairness.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 09, 2019, 11:53:21 AM
A subject for discussion during the long winter nights.
Do we create 4 Provincial teams - Connacht, Leinster (11 Counties), Munster and Ulster to take on Dublin on an equal population footing (Connacht would only be 50% at most)?
Or
The GAA ad a whole grow some balls and make Dublin a Provincial unit with 4 Co Boards?
More "mean spiritedness" I suppose.
But as Breheny said yesterday "The empty seats are speaking...."
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: High Fielder on June 09, 2019, 12:20:06 PM
I personally have no desire to do Dublin down. They're a great team. But i know they have a lot of advantages that other teams can't compete with. I think we need 8 professional teams and let Dublin be one of them. Inter County has never worked. Small counties are irrelevant and can never win anything
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: sekibanki on June 09, 2019, 12:29:12 PM
A subject for discussion during the long winter nights.
Do we create 4 Provincial teams - Connacht, Leinster (11 Counties), Munster and Ulster to take on Dublin on an equal population footing (Connacht would only be 50% at most)?
Or
The GAA ad a whole grow some balls and make Dublin a Provincial unit with 4 Co Boards?
More "mean spiritedness" I suppose.
But as Breheny said yesterday "The empty seats are speaking...."
When we had the Railway Cup, peoplelost interest and stopped showing up to it. Although moving it from its day in the sun didn't help.
And there is some kind of morbid attraction in a two-game tournament where everyone bands together to try and beat the Dubs...
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on June 09, 2019, 12:46:54 PM
Jez, there is some wishey washey mini documentaries thrown out there to try to promote the Game!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p84FmST3WYU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p84FmST3WYU)
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: yellowcard on June 09, 2019, 06:21:38 PM
It feels like the GAA is at a crossroads. The disconnect between club gaels and intercounty teams is sadly growing every year and if the sight of vast swathes of empty seats at Croke Park and only 13,000 attendance between two top 6 sides yesterday in Ulster isn’t enough for the GAA top brass to sit up and take notice then I don’t know what is.

It shouldn’t have been allowed get to this but it now feels as though the elite inter county teams are almost playing a different sport.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 09, 2019, 07:04:50 PM
It feels like the GAA is at a crossroads. The disconnect between club gaels and intercounty teams is sadly growing every year and if the sight of vast swathes of empty seats at Croke Park and only 13,000 attendance between two top 6 sides yesterday in Ulster isn’t enough for the GAA top brass to sit up and take notice then I don’t know what is.

It shouldn’t have been allowed get to this but it now feels as though the elite inter county teams are almost playing a different sport.

What was the attendance in CP today?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Hound on June 09, 2019, 07:21:53 PM
It feels like the GAA is at a crossroads. The disconnect between club gaels and intercounty teams is sadly growing every year and if the sight of vast swathes of empty seats at Croke Park and only 13,000 attendance between two top 6 sides yesterday in Ulster isn’t enough for the GAA top brass to sit up and take notice then I don’t know what is.

It shouldn’t have been allowed get to this but it now feels as though the elite inter county teams are almost playing a different sport.

What was the attendance in CP today?
Between 36k and 37k. Can’t remember the exact number
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on June 09, 2019, 08:48:43 PM
It feels like the GAA is at a crossroads. The disconnect between club gaels and intercounty teams is sadly growing every year and if the sight of vast swathes of empty seats at Croke Park and only 13,000 attendance between two top 6 sides yesterday in Ulster isn’t enough for the GAA top brass to sit up and take notice then I don’t know what is.

It shouldn’t have been allowed get to this but it now feels as though the elite inter county teams are almost playing a different sport.

What was the attendance in CP today?
Between 36k and 37k. Can’t remember the exact number

36,126
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 09, 2019, 09:31:49 PM
21,192 in Clones
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 09, 2019, 09:35:22 PM
It feels like the GAA is at a crossroads. The disconnect between club gaels and intercounty teams is sadly growing every year and if the sight of vast swathes of empty seats at Croke Park and only 13,000 attendance between two top 6 sides yesterday in Ulster isn’t enough for the GAA top brass to sit up and take notice then I don’t know what is.

It shouldn’t have been allowed get to this but it now feels as though the elite inter county teams are almost playing a different sport.

What was the attendance in CP today?
Between 36k and 37k. Can’t remember the exact number

36,126

20K tickets sold in the last few days and a lot of people paid the extra fiver on the day it seems.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: FermGael on June 09, 2019, 09:36:02 PM
21,192 in Clones

Was a very poor crowd I though when you had 3 well supported counties in Ulster playing in Armagh, Monaghan and Cavan.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Hound on June 10, 2019, 08:42:15 AM
Kildare 14/1 to beat Dublin today. The Dublin team would need to take to the pitch mouldy drunk for Kildare to have a squeak. Those odds would probably be bigger if it was anyone else in Leinster. I'm not aware of similar odds in any sport with two teams on the pitch. This is not sport any more and people have better things to be doing than forking out good money to watch their county being humiliated.

After today, and even before it, we will talk about tiers and other solutions. Truth is, inter county is a flawed concept. Dublin are professional or semi professional, call it what you like. I read yesterday that some of them are getting 6k for guest appearances. And good luck to them. But you can't compete with that. Not what it has become. Forget what it was, because that was a different time and place. We're in a different place altogether now, and the gap is being widened by the trappings of success. We're getting towards a county not being able to field a team. If you're a Wicklow player this morning, do you go back for more next year? The GAA are trading on blind loyalty, and I hate them for that.

There are some good footballers/hurlers in Wicklow, Leitrim and every other county in Ireland. It's a sad day when there is no vehicle to allow you to play at the highest level of whatever sport you participate in. Inter county is restrictive and full of inequality and unfairness.
Jeez Louise!

You didn't read that "some of them" are getting €6k for guest appearance, you read than an unnamed source claimed that one of them once received €6k. You didn't read anything about the context behind what the event was and that it was the only time he'd ever received that much and unlikely to do so again. Instead it was written so that idiots would think all the Dubs were out every Friday doing gigs for €6k a pop!

All you have to do is think about it for a second to realise how utterly preposterous it is, but when you want to put the boot into the Dubs, "thinking" doesn't come into it. Do you really think people are going to pay James McCarthy, Niall Scully, Paul Mannion etc etc thousands of pounds to say absolutely nothing!!?? 

The current biggest earners for guest appearances who are still starting players are Aidan O'Shea and Michael Murphy. And I'd bet they turn down a lot more than they accept. The two Dubs who do a bit of it are Bernard and Philly. Bernard does it as part of his business and at this stage everyone knows Philly's motivations. Some of the other Dubs do product endorsements, as do high profile players from Kerry, Mayo, etc.

Nobody comes close to what the Gooch was earning in his last year or two from guest appearances. But he was one of the best ever players at the end of his career, with plenty of stories to tell, so was well worth the money he was getting (and still there's only handful of opportunities) 
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: High Fielder on June 10, 2019, 09:08:10 AM
Settle there. I doubt many of them ever picked up a shovel
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Hound on June 10, 2019, 09:12:40 AM
Settle there. I doubt many of them ever picked up a shovel
Well Paul Flynn did.

Everyone in the team either has a job or is in college. 

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: High Fielder on June 10, 2019, 09:31:00 AM
College won't kill you and the jobs they work at won't either. No begrudgery by the way and good luck to them. But Dublin players have some serious advantages. They're not alone by any means, but the playing field is far from even. I don't understand the need to defend that apart from this romantic notion that the lads are all killed working and can still do the things they do. Come on now
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Hound on June 10, 2019, 09:48:08 AM
College won't kill you and the jobs they work at won't either. No begrudgery by the way and good luck to them. But Dublin players have some serious advantages. They're not alone by any means, but the playing field is far from even. I don't understand the need to defend that apart from this romantic notion that the lads are all killed working and can still do the things they do. Come on now
As I've said numerous times before, Dublin players have a huge advantage in that they want to go to college in Dublin or to work in Dublin. Last I checked not a single one was in college or worked outside Dublin. So we've far less time and energy wasted to travel to train.   

But apart from distance between home county and work, there's very little difference in the jobs the Dublin lads do compared to the jobs the Kerry, Mayo, Kildare lads do.  Teachers, physios, bankers, accountants, etc.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: High Fielder on June 10, 2019, 09:54:15 AM
Do you know how much they earn too?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Hound on June 10, 2019, 09:56:47 AM
Do you know how much they earn too?
WTF?  :o

Do you?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 10, 2019, 10:20:29 AM
Combined Semi Final Crowds

Leinster (36,126)
Dublin/Kildare/Laois/Meath

Ulster (34,771)
Cavan/Armagh/Monaghan/Fermanagh/Donegal/Tyrone

Ulster (29,995)
Cavan/Armagh/Tyrone/Donegal

Connacht (25,833)
Galway/Sligo/Mayo/Roscommon

Munster (8,165)
Cork/Limerick/Clare/Kerry

Even a shit Leinster Championship gets more people at their semi-finals.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Lar Naparka on June 10, 2019, 10:22:46 AM
Kildare 14/1 to beat Dublin today. The Dublin team would need to take to the pitch mouldy drunk for Kildare to have a squeak. Those odds would probably be bigger if it was anyone else in Leinster. I'm not aware of similar odds in any sport with two teams on the pitch. This is not sport any more and people have better things to be doing than forking out good money to watch their county being humiliated.

After today, and even before it, we will talk about tiers and other solutions. Truth is, inter county is a flawed concept. Dublin are professional or semi professional, call it what you like. I read yesterday that some of them are getting 6k for guest appearances. And good luck to them. But you can't compete with that. Not what it has become. Forget what it was, because that was a different time and place. We're in a different place altogether now, and the gap is being widened by the trappings of success. We're getting towards a county not being able to field a team. If you're a Wicklow player this morning, do you go back for more next year? The GAA are trading on blind loyalty, and I hate them for that.

There are some good footballers/hurlers in Wicklow, Leitrim and every other county in Ireland. It's a sad day when there is no vehicle to allow you to play at the highest level of whatever sport you participate in. Inter county is restrictive and full of inequality and unfairness.
Jeez Louise!

You didn't read that "some of them" are getting €6k for guest appearance, you read than an unnamed source claimed that one of them once received €6k. You didn't read anything about the context behind what the event was and that it was the only time he'd ever received that much and unlikely to do so again. Instead it was written so that idiots would think all the Dubs were out every Friday doing gigs for €6k a pop!

All you have to do is think about it for a second to realise how utterly preposterous it is, but when you want to put the boot into the Dubs, "thinking" doesn't come into it. Do you really think people are going to pay James McCarthy, Niall Scully, Paul Mannion etc etc thousands of pounds to say absolutely nothing!!?? 

The current biggest earners for guest appearances who are still starting players are Aidan O'Shea and Michael Murphy. And I'd bet they turn down a lot more than they accept. The two Dubs who do a bit of it are Bernard and Philly. Bernard does it as part of his business and at this stage everyone knows Philly's motivations. Some of the other Dubs do product endorsements, as do high profile players from Kerry, Mayo, etc.

Nobody comes close to what the Gooch was earning in his last year or two from guest appearances. But he was one of the best ever players at the end of his career, with plenty of stories to tell, so was well worth the money he was getting (and still there's only handful of opportunities)
That’a a bit of a surprise as I’d have put Berno way out in front of the rest. (I take it you have a credible source when you say this. (That is only going by the number of times I see him on TV or in other media outlets of one sort or another. I haven’t come across Michael Murphy sponsoring or otherwise advertising anything. In Mayo, I’d have thought Cillian was doing better than anyone else but I have no way of telling or any interest in finding out.
As for players picking up a few bob on the side, all I can say is good luck to them. It’s a pity that all players cannot benefit to the same degree but that is no fault of those who can pick up a few quid on the side.
Dunno how much any player is making a by its nature, nixers can lead to hassle from the taxman and nobody wants that.
Lee Chin said in an interview up Paul Kimmage that he was able to take a year off work because of the sponsorship money he was getting. He wouldn’t be near the sponsorship potential of any of the Dublin players or the likes of Joe Coooney, Aidan O’Shea or say Aaron Gillane and about 50 others I can think of.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Tubberman on June 10, 2019, 10:57:24 AM
Combined Semi Final Crowds

Leinster (36,126)
Dublin/Kildare/Laois/Meath

Ulster (34,771)
Cavan/Armagh/Monaghan/Fermanagh/Donegal/Tyrone

Ulster (29,995)
Cavan/Armagh/Tyrone/Donegal

Connacht (25,833)
Galway/Sligo/Mayo/Roscommon

Munster (8,165)
Cork/Limerick/Clare/Kerry

Even a shit Leinster Championship gets more people at their semi-finals.

Was there nobody at Sligo/Galway?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 10, 2019, 11:09:15 AM
Combined Semi Final Crowds

Leinster (36,126)
Dublin/Kildare/Laois/Meath

Ulster (34,771)
Cavan/Armagh/Monaghan/Fermanagh/Donegal/Tyrone

Ulster (29,995)
Cavan/Armagh/Tyrone/Donegal

Connacht (25,833)
Galway/Sligo/Mayo/Roscommon

Munster (8,165)
Cork/Limerick/Clare/Kerry

Even a shit Leinster Championship gets more people at their semi-finals.

Was there nobody at Sligo/Galway?
A bit over 5k was there at it
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Hound on June 10, 2019, 11:21:31 AM
Kildare 14/1 to beat Dublin today. The Dublin team would need to take to the pitch mouldy drunk for Kildare to have a squeak. Those odds would probably be bigger if it was anyone else in Leinster. I'm not aware of similar odds in any sport with two teams on the pitch. This is not sport any more and people have better things to be doing than forking out good money to watch their county being humiliated.

After today, and even before it, we will talk about tiers and other solutions. Truth is, inter county is a flawed concept. Dublin are professional or semi professional, call it what you like. I read yesterday that some of them are getting 6k for guest appearances. And good luck to them. But you can't compete with that. Not what it has become. Forget what it was, because that was a different time and place. We're in a different place altogether now, and the gap is being widened by the trappings of success. We're getting towards a county not being able to field a team. If you're a Wicklow player this morning, do you go back for more next year? The GAA are trading on blind loyalty, and I hate them for that.

There are some good footballers/hurlers in Wicklow, Leitrim and every other county in Ireland. It's a sad day when there is no vehicle to allow you to play at the highest level of whatever sport you participate in. Inter county is restrictive and full of inequality and unfairness.
Jeez Louise!

You didn't read that "some of them" are getting €6k for guest appearance, you read than an unnamed source claimed that one of them once received €6k. You didn't read anything about the context behind what the event was and that it was the only time he'd ever received that much and unlikely to do so again. Instead it was written so that idiots would think all the Dubs were out every Friday doing gigs for €6k a pop!

All you have to do is think about it for a second to realise how utterly preposterous it is, but when you want to put the boot into the Dubs, "thinking" doesn't come into it. Do you really think people are going to pay James McCarthy, Niall Scully, Paul Mannion etc etc thousands of pounds to say absolutely nothing!!?? 

The current biggest earners for guest appearances who are still starting players are Aidan O'Shea and Michael Murphy. And I'd bet they turn down a lot more than they accept. The two Dubs who do a bit of it are Bernard and Philly. Bernard does it as part of his business and at this stage everyone knows Philly's motivations. Some of the other Dubs do product endorsements, as do high profile players from Kerry, Mayo, etc.

Nobody comes close to what the Gooch was earning in his last year or two from guest appearances. But he was one of the best ever players at the end of his career, with plenty of stories to tell, so was well worth the money he was getting (and still there's only handful of opportunities)
That’a a bit of a surprise as I’d have put Berno way out in front of the rest. (I take it you have a credible source when you say this. (That is only going by the number of times I see him on TV or in other media outlets of one sort or another. I haven’t come across Michael Murphy sponsoring or otherwise advertising anything. In Mayo, I’d have thought Cillian was doing better than anyone else but I have no way of telling or any interest in finding out.
As for players picking up a few bob on the side, all I can say is good luck to them. It’s a pity that all players cannot benefit to the same degree but that is no fault of those who can pick up a few quid on the side.
Dunno how much any player is making a by its nature, nixers can lead to hassle from the taxman and nobody wants that.
Lee Chin said in an interview up Paul Kimmage that he was able to take a year off work because of the sponsorship money he was getting. He wouldn’t be near the sponsorship potential of any of the Dublin players or the likes of Joe Coooney, Aidan O’Shea or say Aaron Gillane and about 50 others I can think of.
Absolutely, I mentioned AOS and MM in the context of current starting players, which was in the context of the €6k article and just in terms of money to address an audience. But such opportunities are few and far between, because current players aren't allowed say anything, so paying them to say nothing is just a silly concept.
I haven't been to one of Bernard's but I'd say it's a lot more business focused than football focused.

I was at a Gooch one 2/3 years ago and he was reasonably forthcoming in fairness, and I know he got a nice few quid. But it was a relatively private audience of business people, no press, no recording. I was at another with Paul Geaney a couple of years ago, that was one where the organisers asked the GPA to send a player, not sure how payment worked. And that was previewing another match so he wasn't talking about Kerry much (apart from watch out for Sean O'Shea!)

If you want to pay money to a Dub to speak to an audience, then you'd hardly go to a current player. Alan Brogan would presumably be the most popular given he has knowledge of what it's like under Gavin, and I'd imagine Paul Flynn will start to get some more phone calls. But the idea that there are a group of current players earning money from speaking engagements is just nonsense
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 10, 2019, 11:33:04 AM
Combined Semi Final Crowds

Leinster (36,126)
Dublin/Kildare/Laois/Meath

Ulster (34,771)
Cavan/Armagh/Monaghan/Fermanagh/Donegal/Tyrone

Ulster (29,995)
Cavan/Armagh/Tyrone/Donegal

Connacht (25,833)
Galway/Sligo/Mayo/Roscommon

Munster (8,165)
Cork/Limerick/Clare/Kerry

Even a shit Leinster Championship gets more people at their semi-finals.
How many from Laois/Meath/Kildare there yesterday?
5,000?
Out of nearly 500,000!!
Mayowestros v rest of Ros 20,471 out of less than 200,000.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Hound on June 10, 2019, 11:53:59 AM
Combined Semi Final Crowds

Leinster (36,126)
Dublin/Kildare/Laois/Meath

Ulster (34,771)
Cavan/Armagh/Monaghan/Fermanagh/Donegal/Tyrone

Ulster (29,995)
Cavan/Armagh/Tyrone/Donegal

Connacht (25,833)
Galway/Sligo/Mayo/Roscommon

Munster (8,165)
Cork/Limerick/Clare/Kerry

Even a shit Leinster Championship gets more people at their semi-finals.
How many from Laois/Meath/Kildare there yesterday?
5,000?
Out of nearly 500,000!!
Mayowestros v rest of Ros 20,471 out of less than 200,000.
Walking in, I noticed a couple of instances of a father in a Dubs jersey with kids in tow in Meath jerseys. That was a bit unsettling! 
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on June 10, 2019, 12:05:08 PM
The Vendors at Croke Park have to be taking a bit of a hit with all these small crowds. And the Part time Corporate Box Staff must be down a bit on extra cash as well.

But Hey, We need a strong Dublin and we have it!
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: twohands!!! on June 10, 2019, 03:15:16 PM
The Vendors at Croke Park have to be taking a bit of a hit with all these small crowds. And the Part time Corporate Box Staff must be down a bit on extra cash as well.

But Hey, We need a strong Dublin and we have it!


"If you want a picture of Gaelic football's future, imagine a Dublin GAA boot stomping on the human face, forever"



Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: irish345 on June 10, 2019, 03:26:32 PM
I personally have no desire to do Dublin down. They're a great team. But i know they have a lot of advantages that other teams can't compete with. I think we need 8 professional teams and let Dublin be one of them. Inter County has never worked. Small counties are irrelevant and can never win anything

would you have two professional teams per province and would we have american style teams like a team called the belfast bears

only positive from that we could have friday night games lol
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 10, 2019, 03:33:52 PM
I personally have no desire to do Dublin down. They're a great team. But i know they have a lot of advantages that other teams can't compete with. I think we need 8 professional teams and let Dublin be one of them. Inter County has never worked. Small counties are irrelevant and can never win anything

would you have two professional teams per province and would we have american style teams like a team called the belfast bears

only positive from that we could have friday night games lol
And we just choose whichever team we wanted to support and hop on the bandwagon, no emotional attachment necessary.

Hell, there'd probably be two franchises in Dublin alone. We'd have finally achieved the split when it no longer mattered.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 10, 2019, 08:22:07 PM
€40 for the Leinster SFC final and by extension the JFC final, 40 quid to watch the Kildare Juniors, unbelievable.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Hound on June 10, 2019, 09:15:44 PM
€40 for the Leinster SFC final and by extension the JFC final, 40 quid to watch the Kildare Juniors, unbelievable.
Got a text from my club saying stand 35, hill 25, kids 5
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 10, 2019, 09:30:08 PM
€40 for the Leinster SFC final and by extension the JFC final, 40 quid to watch the Kildare Juniors, unbelievable.
Got a text from my club saying stand 35, hill 25, kids 5

Pre purchased. On the day is 40, I can't plan in advance.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: From the Bunker on June 10, 2019, 09:50:23 PM
€40 for the Leinster SFC final and by extension the JFC final, 40 quid to watch the Kildare Juniors, unbelievable.
Got a text from my club saying stand 35, hill 25, kids 5

Pre purchased. On the day is 40, I can't plan in advance.

Most people will decide on the day. If it's a nice sunny warm day, then the obvious decision is to go to the beach!  ;D
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: clonadmad on June 13, 2019, 09:47:28 AM
Year on year to date attendances  based on same number of games

Munster Hurling
2019 180,387
2018 170,104

Leinster
68220
79248

Leinster SF
71501
71304

Ulster SF
106067
70197

Connacht SF
45101
55630

Munster SF
12349
24191

Total Hurling Attendance to date 248,607


Total Football Attendance to date 235,018
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 13, 2019, 10:23:55 AM
Anyone see any official figures for the Qualifiers last weekend.
It was hard to spot spectators on the clips on TV.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: macdanger2 on June 14, 2019, 04:12:01 PM
Year on year to date attendances  based on same number of games

Munster Hurling
2019 180,387
2018 170,104

Leinster
68220
79248

Leinster SF
71501
71304

Ulster SF
106067
70197

Connacht SF
45101
55630

Munster SF
12349
24191

Total Hurling Attendance to date 248,607


Total Football Attendance to date 235,018

Was just looking at the average winning margin in each of these competitions:

MHC
10.25 over 8 games

LHC
5.88 over 8 games

LFC
8.9 over 10 games

Ulster SF
5.13 over 8 games

CFC
11.2 over 5 games

Munster SF
8.75 over 4 games

The Leinster hurling is surprisingly competitive considering Carlow are there while Munster hurling has been surprisingly relatively uncompetitive

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 14, 2019, 04:42:54 PM
Year on year to date attendances  based on same number of games

Munster Hurling
2019 180,387
2018 170,104

Leinster
68220
79248

Leinster SF
71501
71304

Ulster SF
106067
70197

Connacht SF
45101
55630

Munster SF
12349
24191

Total Hurling Attendance to date 248,607


Total Football Attendance to date 235,018

Munster hurling championship has what 11 games now?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on June 16, 2019, 02:23:36 PM
Looks like a big crowd in Thurles.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: clonadmad on June 16, 2019, 05:08:29 PM
Year on year to date attendances  based on same number of games

Munster Hurling
2019 180,387
2018 170,104

Leinster
68220
79248

Leinster SF
71501
71304

Ulster SF
106067
70197

Connacht SF
45101
55630

Munster SF
12349
24191

Total Hurling Attendance to date 248,607



Total Football Attendance to date 235,018

Munster hurling championship has what 11 games now?

The same number of games as last year,it’s a 2018 v 2019 comparison
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: clonadmad on June 16, 2019, 05:09:00 PM
Looks like a big crowd in Thurles.

39 thousand odd
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: The PRO on June 16, 2019, 05:25:14 PM
17,639 in Salthill.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: clonadmad on June 17, 2019, 09:37:13 AM
Kk v Wexford 15,241
Dublin v Galway 8,000 approx
Clare v Cork 16856
Limerick v Tipperary 39,115

Source;Irish Independent
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: clonadmad on June 17, 2019, 09:39:32 AM
Kk v Wexford 15,241
Dublin v Galway 8,000 approx
Clare v Cork 16856
Limerick v Tipperary 39,115

Source;Irish Independent

Munster Hurling Championship with Final left to play

236,358

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: clonadmad on June 17, 2019, 09:41:34 AM
Leinster Hurling Championship with Final lefft to play

91461
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: clonadmad on June 17, 2019, 09:43:05 AM
Total 2019 Connacht Football attendance

62,730
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: fearsiuil on June 17, 2019, 03:31:02 PM
Kk v Wexford 15,241
Dublin v Galway 8,000 approx
Clare v Cork 16856
Limerick v Tipperary 39,115

Source;Irish Independent
According to Wiki Wexford park can hold 25,000, that attendance undercooked or a true figure?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Bord na Mona man on June 17, 2019, 03:42:46 PM
Kk v Wexford 15,241
Dublin v Galway 8,000 approx
Clare v Cork 16856
Limerick v Tipperary 39,115

Source;Irish Independent
According to Wiki Wexford park can hold 25,000, that attendance undercooked or a true figure?
Several capacities on wikipedia are notional and the figures quoted pre-date any health and safety scrutiny.
The current capacity for Wexford Park is 17,000.
see:
https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/gaa/gaelic-football/gaelic-football-news/dublin-fans-set-rewarded-majority-10087303


Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 18, 2019, 09:23:17 AM
17,639 in Salthill.

Terrible given it was Connacht final day.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 18, 2019, 09:53:17 AM
Poor enough alright but Galway football not over popular in their own County and an absolute shite of a day to deter a walk up crowd plus of course feckin Salthill to deter any neutrals or soft support.
Pricing wouldn't help either.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: didlyi on June 18, 2019, 10:44:31 AM
Poor enough alright but Galway football not over popular in their own County and an absolute shite of a day to deter a walk up crowd plus of course feckin Salthill to deter any neutrals or soft support.
Pricing wouldn't help either.

You think neutrals would want to go it anyway?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 18, 2019, 11:04:52 AM
Some would.
A Provincial Final and 2 of 2018's last 8.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Blowitupref on June 18, 2019, 01:16:36 PM
The attendances of the last few Galway v Roscommon Connacht finals

24,324 2016 draw in Salthill
15,960 2016 replay in Castlebar
18,287 2017 in Salthill
18,864  2018 in Hyde Park (capacity was restricted)

In summary a bit of a novelty for the first final,the replay got the lowest while last Sunday's attendance wasn't far off the last final in Salthill. 
 
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: weareros on June 18, 2019, 01:35:50 PM
The attendances of the last few Galway v Roscommon Connacht finals

24,324 2016 draw in Salthill
15,960 2016 replay in Castlebar
18,287 2017 in Salthill
18,864  2018 in Hyde Park (capacity was restricted)

In summary a bit of a novelty for the first final,the replay got the lowest while last Sunday's attendance wasn't far off the last final in Salthill.


I thought myself there looked a lot more there this year than in 2017. It's too bad people get turned away by the weather and the worry about traffic because if you go early, get breakfast, lunch or some drinks, Salthill has a great old vibe. I'm most surprised with Galway supporters after getting knocked out of the hurling that they wouldn't come out in some sort of force and bring a sense of occasion to Connacht Final day. They were a top 4 team afterall last year. Life is short. Nothing beats being there.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: highorlow on June 20, 2019, 02:58:46 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/football-final-crowds-set-to-be-lowest-in-a-decade-931746.html
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 21, 2019, 06:49:19 AM
The main Galway football support is from lough corrib as far as Glinsk. If north Galway people don't go to a game the support is quite poor for the Galway footballers. Salthill magnifies this.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on June 21, 2019, 07:44:22 AM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/football-final-crowds-set-to-be-lowest-in-a-decade-931746.html

"while Clones’ St Tiernach’s Park has a reduced capacity of 29,000 for the novel pairing of Cavan and Donegal."

 :o

Anyone know what the story is here? Is this a one off reduction or is it something more permanent and related to health and safety? The Armagh v Down Ulster Final of 1999 had an official attendance of over 36,000 and I recall (I think) a Tyrone v Cavan final since that with a crowd in excess of 35,000. 
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: JoG2 on June 21, 2019, 08:07:12 AM
To fit Brolly's head??
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: macdanger2 on June 23, 2019, 10:12:40 PM
Any attendances from the weekend?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 23, 2019, 11:32:28 PM
Leinster Football Final:  47,027

Ulster Football Final: 28,780

Munster Football Final: 18,265
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 23, 2019, 11:39:44 PM
2,765 in Carrick
4,162 in Longford.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 23, 2019, 11:43:44 PM
2,765 in Carrick
4,162 in Longford.

Did you travel to Cork, Rossfan?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on June 24, 2019, 12:05:26 AM
No as it rurned out.
Will be there August weekend if Cork win Round 4...... have an awful foreboding well be in fkn Castlebar.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: joemamas on June 24, 2019, 12:36:19 AM
Leinster Football Final:  47,027

Ulster Football Final: 28,780

Munster Football Final: 18,265

Crazy on Munster final, I was at the 1987 replay in Killarney, there was 53k official in attendance, probably more like 60k + were in the stadium.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: macdanger2 on June 24, 2019, 12:40:21 AM
Leinster Football Final:  47,027

Ulster Football Final: 28,780

Munster Football Final: 18,265

Not a bad crowd for leinster considering. Although worth noting that kids <5 were likely free into the other two games but not Croker
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on June 24, 2019, 07:49:20 AM
Ulster Football Final: 28,780

Not a bad crowd considering the capacity was restricted to 29,000 but in historical terms that is quite poor.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: clonadmad on June 24, 2019, 11:31:26 AM
Total Provincial Attendances 2019

Ulster 134,847
Leinster 118,528
Connacht 62,730
Munster 30,614

Munster Hurling with Final to Play 236,358
Leinster Hurling with Final to Play 91,461
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on June 24, 2019, 12:37:58 PM
Ulster Football Final: 28,780

Not a bad crowd considering the capacity was restricted to 29,000 but in historical terms that is quite poor.

Less than the first round in 2002.
Clones is not being invested in, owing to the debacle in Belfast and it may not hold more than 29,000 either.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: J70 on June 24, 2019, 01:16:01 PM
Ulster Football Final: 28,780

Not a bad crowd considering the capacity was restricted to 29,000 but in historical terms that is quite poor.

It was sold out.

No reason they couldn't have had another 5,000 if they had been allowed to.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: rosnarun on June 24, 2019, 04:09:42 PM
Leinster Football Final:  47,027

Ulster Football Final: 28,780

Munster Football Final: 18,265

Crazy on Munster final, I was at the 1987 replay in Killarney, there was 53k official in attendance, probably more like 60k + were in the stadium.
did a single policeman on a white horse control the crowds
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: sekibanki on June 24, 2019, 04:39:03 PM
Ulster Football Final: 28,780

Not a bad crowd considering the capacity was restricted to 29,000 but in historical terms that is quite poor.

Less than the first round in 2002.
Clones is not being invested in, owing to the debacle in Belfast and it may not hold more than 29,000 either.
Wouldn't take much to make it a little more comfortable. Some proper seats and a roof over the Roslea end, with a permanent big screen, and it could stay fit for purpose for years to come. And if it needs expanded, there's a perfect Nally stand sized gap in the corner of the ground...
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 24, 2019, 04:41:18 PM
Any from the Mayo Down game?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 30, 2019, 11:45:48 AM
20,116 in Castlebar yesterday.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: thegreeenandgold on June 30, 2019, 01:12:13 PM
6700 in Portlaoise
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: fearsiuil on June 30, 2019, 02:23:30 PM
20,116 in Castlebar yesterday.
The official attendance was 18,711.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: armaghniac on June 30, 2019, 02:32:15 PM
20,116 in Castlebar yesterday.
The official attendance was 18,711.

Who were the other 1400? Unofficial attendees?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: fearsiuil on June 30, 2019, 02:38:04 PM
20,116 in Castlebar yesterday.
The official attendance was 18,711.

Who were the other 1400? Unofficial attendees?
Those of the unofficial peoples front of R MA.

Shkite of Féile gasúns bout maybe.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 30, 2019, 03:39:21 PM
20,116 in Castlebar yesterday.
The official attendance was 18,711.

Could be correct. I only saw it on an Instagram page this morning - the figure I quoted - that is.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: TheGreatest on July 01, 2019, 01:51:27 PM
20,116 in Castlebar yesterday.
The official attendance was 18,711.

Extremely poor attendance, where has the great Mayo support gone? Sure they even had T.Ds complaining in the Dail for people who couldnt get tickets for the All Ireland Final.

They can make themselves look good travelling, why is that, the day trip event junkie, the glamour of the away tie...

Its an interesting one.

Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: TheGreatest on July 01, 2019, 01:53:00 PM
Leinster Football Final:  47,027

Ulster Football Final: 28,780

Munster Football Final: 18,265

Appalling attendance for a Munster final. Must be one of the lowest ever.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on July 01, 2019, 01:58:30 PM
I see the crowd in Newbridge reported as "4,500 estimated" :o
That is an appalling figure if true.
Any official figure?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 01, 2019, 02:10:00 PM
20,116 in Castlebar yesterday.
The official attendance was 18,711.

Extremely poor attendance, where has the great Mayo support gone? Sure they even had T.Ds complaining in the Dail for people who couldnt get tickets for the All Ireland Final.

They can make themselves look good travelling, why is that, the day trip event junkie, the glamour of the away tie...

Its an interesting one.

Féile was on.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: fearsiuil on July 01, 2019, 02:52:57 PM
20,116 in Castlebar yesterday.
The official attendance was 18,711.

Extremely poor attendance, where has the great Mayo support gone? Sure they even had T.Ds complaining in the Dail for people who couldnt get tickets for the All Ireland Final.

They can make themselves look good travelling, why is that, the day trip event junkie, the glamour of the away tie...

Its an interesting one.

Féile was on.
Every part time farmer working round the clock to get silage & bog sorted in the good weather.

If 15k Mayos there that's 11.5% of population.

If 40k Dubs at Leinster final out of 1,350,000 population....represents less than 3% bothering.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: TheGreatest on July 01, 2019, 04:40:18 PM
20,116 in Castlebar yesterday.
The official attendance was 18,711.

Extremely poor attendance, where has the great Mayo support gone? Sure they even had T.Ds complaining in the Dail for people who couldnt get tickets for the All Ireland Final.

They can make themselves look good travelling, why is that, the day trip event junkie, the glamour of the away tie...

Its an interesting one.

Féile was on.
Every part time farmer working round the clock to get silage & bog sorted in the good weather.

If 15k Mayos there that's 11.5% of population.

If 40k Dubs at Leinster final out of 1,350,000 population....represents less than 3% bothering.

There are not 1.35 Million Dublin fans, just like there isnt 1.35 Million male GAA players between the ages of 18-32 who play senior club football and are good at football. Population argument a non runner my friend. Just like there isnt 550K Cork football fans or 620K Antrim hurling fans.


Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: clonadmad on July 01, 2019, 04:44:26 PM
Total Provincial Attendances 2019

1.Munster Hurling 280,410
2.Leinster Hurling 143,303
3.Ulster Football 134,847
4.Leinster Football 118,528
5.Connacht Football 62,730
6.Munster Football 30,614
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: fearsiuil on July 01, 2019, 04:58:02 PM
20,116 in Castlebar yesterday.
The official attendance was 18,711.

Extremely poor attendance, where has the great Mayo support gone? Sure they even had T.Ds complaining in the Dail for people who couldnt get tickets for the All Ireland Final.

They can make themselves look good travelling, why is that, the day trip event junkie, the glamour of the away tie...

Its an interesting one.

Féile was on.
Every part time farmer working round the clock to get silage & bog sorted in the good weather.

If 15k Mayos there that's 11.5% of population.

If 40k Dubs at Leinster final out of 1,350,000 population....represents less than 3% bothering.

There are not 1.35 Million Dublin fans, just like there isnt 1.35 Million male GAA players between the ages of 18-32 who play senior club football and are good at football. Population argument a non runner my friend. Just like there isnt 550K Cork football fans or 620K Antrim hurling fans.
Cork and Antrim never had a big support in my lifetime. Dublin had.

Mayo don't have 130,000 football supporters either but have a proportionally bigger support than Dublin. You commenting on an "extremely poor" Mayo support last Saturday is quite amusing.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on July 01, 2019, 04:58:31 PM
I thought Dublin could fill Croke Park on their own  ::)
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: rosnarun on July 01, 2019, 05:26:52 PM
20,116 in Castlebar yesterday.
The official attendance was 18,711.

Extremely poor attendance, where has the great Mayo support gone? Sure they even had T.Ds complaining in the Dail for people who couldnt get tickets for the All Ireland Final.

They can make themselves look good travelling, why is that, the day trip event junkie, the glamour of the away tie...

Its an interesting one.

Féile was on.
I have me doubts iff all the kids were counted in the Castlebar figure  the were gangs of feile teams all around the  ground it felt fuller than the roscommom game when they announced over 20k.
point about the mayo  fans is the consistently bring 4-5 k even for away  league games  and 10-12 for home ones . the rest are like other counties day trippers and families etc which is very dependent on the opposition the weather the stage of the competition .
the weather was OK but a round 3 qualifier again a division 2/3  is not going to get the public over excited yet
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on July 02, 2019, 09:24:10 AM
Population argument a non runner my friend.

Of course...

I'm sure your advocating removing all club finals from Croke Park now that they are extremely poorly attended.  ::)
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: TheGreatest on July 02, 2019, 09:25:23 AM
20,116 in Castlebar yesterday.
The official attendance was 18,711.

Extremely poor attendance, where has the great Mayo support gone? Sure they even had T.Ds complaining in the Dail for people who couldnt get tickets for the All Ireland Final.

They can make themselves look good travelling, why is that, the day trip event junkie, the glamour of the away tie...

Its an interesting one.

Féile was on.
Every part time farmer working round the clock to get silage & bog sorted in the good weather.

If 15k Mayos there that's 11.5% of population.

If 40k Dubs at Leinster final out of 1,350,000 population....represents less than 3% bothering.

There are not 1.35 Million Dublin fans, just like there isnt 1.35 Million male GAA players between the ages of 18-32 who play senior club football and are good at football. Population argument a non runner my friend. Just like there isnt 550K Cork football fans or 620K Antrim hurling fans.
Cork and Antrim never had a big support in my lifetime. Dublin had.

Mayo don't have 130,000 football supporters either but have a proportionally bigger support than Dublin. You commenting on an "extremely poor" Mayo support last Saturday is quite amusing.

130k living in the county, most of them are in Dublin, something i have noticed over the last few years when they came out of the woodwork for the all ireland finals.

iv mentioned it before, Dublin footballs hardcore support is 20-25K. 25-35K with the casuals and up with the blow ins. Its a minority.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: TheGreatest on July 02, 2019, 09:26:31 AM
Population argument a non runner my friend.

Of course...

I'm sure your advocating removing all club finals from Croke Park now that they are extremely poorly attended.  ::)

Not sure about that, i have been lucky to see my club win the club twice in the last few years there, a great day out.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: naka on July 02, 2019, 09:46:49 AM
Total Provincial Attendances 2019

1.Munster Hurling 280,410
2.Leinster Hurling 143,303
3.Ulster Football 134,847
4.Leinster Football 118,528
5.Connacht Football 62,730
6.Munster Football 30,614

poor enough for ulster considering there was an extra game which had over 20k at it.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Keyser soze on July 02, 2019, 09:55:59 AM
Why would anyone attend a sport that all its commentators on TV, print and SM roundly condemn as a crap 'product'. Maybe a more positive vibe from the sidelines might do more to promote the game in a positive light and help attendances. 
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Maiden1 on July 02, 2019, 10:05:58 AM
Total Provincial Attendances 2019

1.Munster Hurling 280,410
2.Leinster Hurling 143,303
3.Ulster Football 134,847
4.Leinster Football 118,528
5.Connacht Football 62,730
6.Munster Football 30,614

poor enough for ulster considering there was an extra game which had over 20k at it.
135000/9 games is an average of nearly 15,000 per game.  Not bad at all.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Rossfan on July 02, 2019, 11:04:10 AM
Average per game rounded
MSHC 25,500
LSHC 13,000
USFC 13,900
LSFC 10,800
CSFC 10,250
MSFC 6,100.
Have seen hardly any figures for the 3 Rounds of Qualifiers but going by those I have seen and the empty stadia on the bits of TV highlights (apart from the Monaghan and Mayowestros games) -would the 20 games have attracted 100,000??
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: rosnarun on July 02, 2019, 11:39:45 AM
Why would anyone attend a sport that all its commentators on TV, print and SM roundly condemn as a crap 'product'. Maybe a more positive vibe from the sidelines might do more to promote the game in a positive light and help attendances. 
you bang on the mark there. the non stop negative articles about football do my jead in . hurling and rugby go too far the other way , everything is always great , and only retired player would piss on your legs
. even all this navel gazing about home many went to the game and how many Dublin fans could balance on a needle argument speak of a great insecurity ,
just go and enjoy the game
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 02, 2019, 11:49:29 PM
What was the attendances 20 odd yrs ago in smaller stadiums?
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Redhand Santa on July 03, 2019, 08:41:06 AM
Average per game rounded
MSHC 25,500
LSHC 13,000
USFC 13,900
LSFC 10,800
CSFC 10,250
MSFC 6,100.
Have seen hardly any figures for the 3 Rounds of Qualifiers but going by those I have seen and the empty stadia on the bits of TV highlights (apart from the Monaghan and Mayowestros games) -would the 20 games have attracted 100,000??

I actually thought all the grounds at the qualifiers looked to have good crowds in them at the weekend on tv. There was around 19,000 in Castlebar which was by far the biggest attendance. The throw in for Laois Offally was delayed due to the crowd - think there was 7,000 or something there. There was no tickets left in Newbridge so I'd say around 6,000 there and I think they said 5,000 at the Westmeath match. Not bad for qualifier games especially if you compare them to other sports in the country.

The first two rounds always get some poor attendances - a combination of teams coming off large defeats, non football counties being involved and mismatches. There was still big crowds at Mayo Down and Armagh Monaghan last week.

I still think the ticket prices are too dear for the qualifiers now the super 8s have been added in too. The games the last two weekends were 20 euro and now its up to 25 euro this weekend. Then it'll get dearer again for the next 2 super 8 games. 20/25 euro is ok if your county is only out every 2 or 3 weeks but when it's every week it adds up.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: Farrandeelin on July 03, 2019, 09:31:47 AM
I wasn't there myself on Saturday. Our 2nd team were playing in Glenamoy at 3.30 that day and I'm involved with them. Now if 'boyhood fire was in my blood' etc. I'd probably rush on afterwards. However I was gone from 1.45 and I didn't get home till 6.15. It's a long enough day on the road instead of arriving home at near 10ish at night.
Title: Re: Attendances
Post by: BennyCake on July 03, 2019, 09:37:57 AM
Yup I agree with the prices thing, RHSanta.

It’s expensive following your team if in the qualifiers, especially if you don’t know where you’re heading from one week to the next. The GAA are  fixing prices far too high. Loyal fans are only so loyal as their wallets will allow.