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Title: 2018 NFL Division 2
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Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on December 31, 2017, 11:55:21 AM
Less than a month till throw in. Really tough to call how this will go.  For me Louth are the weakest team and for them to stay up will take a big effort. Cork and Meath always have really high expectations amongst their fans due to past glories but rarely have lived up to them in recent years, Cork without their Nemo players too mightnt have it as straight forward as they think. I think in general its a league where every can beat anyone else and will be surprised if its not very tight last day with alot of teams still in with a shout for promotion/relegation
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on December 31, 2017, 12:04:36 PM
4 points from the first 3 games and you're chasing promotion, 0 or 2  tough campaign ahead.
Likely to be a few humdinger st on the last day.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on December 31, 2017, 01:18:25 PM
4 points from the first 3 games and you're chasing promotion, 0 or 2  tough campaign ahead.
Likely to be a few humdinger st on the last day.

It could be very straightforward.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on December 31, 2017, 01:57:54 PM
4 points from the first 3 games and you're chasing promotion, 0 or 2  tough campaign ahead.
Likely to be a few humdinger st on the last day.

It could be very straightforward.

Maybe but that would be very surprising as theres noone in this division who youd say is well out ahead.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 31, 2017, 02:47:50 PM
4 points from the first 3 games and you're chasing promotion, 0 or 2  tough campaign ahead.
Likely to be a few humdinger st on the last day.
Not always the case as Cavan proven in 2016, lost their first two games and then won their next five to gain promotion.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrhardyannual on December 31, 2017, 03:20:13 PM
Roscommon, with a Connacht title under their belt and hardened by a season in Div 1 plus the return of players "not available" last year must be well set up to do well this year. Despite the drubbing in the Croke Park replay they still have a potent forward line, above average midfield and potential to strengthen the defence. In McStay they have a top class coach. I'd be disappointed if they are not promoted.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: From the Bunker on December 31, 2017, 03:34:40 PM
4 points from the first 3 games and you're chasing promotion, 0 or 2  tough campaign ahead.
Likely to be a few humdinger st on the last day.
Not always the case as Cavan proven in 2016, lost their first two games and then won their next five to gain promotion.

You are depending on ''Favours'' then. It also depends who you lost your first two games to.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on December 31, 2017, 03:59:38 PM
Ten points is normally enough for a top 2 finish in Div 2 but if this div turns to be as evenly matched on paper as it is in reality then maybe 9 or 8 points will be enough for promotion.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: SHEEDY on December 31, 2017, 07:22:01 PM
loads of evenly matched teams in this division and a couple of points either way could have you in relegation trouble or chasing promotion. we (Down) just survived by the skin of our teeth last year and with only 3 home games it could easily be something similar this year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 31, 2017, 07:26:39 PM
loads of evenly matched teams in this division and a couple of points either way could have you in relegation trouble or chasing promotion. we (Down) just survived by the skin of our teeth last year and with only 3 home games it could easily be something similar this year.
Is the Down panel for 2018 stronger or weaker than 2017?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on December 31, 2017, 08:00:03 PM
loads of evenly matched teams in this division and a couple of points either way could have you in relegation trouble or chasing promotion. we (Down) just survived by the skin of our teeth last year and with only 3 home games it could easily be something similar this year.
Is the Down panel for 2018 stronger or weaker than 2017?

Down is the main team in the league I really dont know what to expect from. Tipp are alot stronger than last year when we were poor throughout the league but the step up and better opposition my negate that and we need to stay healthy. Cork are overrated for me, without the nemo players and theyve not shown enough the last few years to warrant strong favoritism, they are a big confidence team though and if they do get on a roll are hard to stop. Cavan have a decent draw fixturewise and maybe thats why they are 2nd favourites, will have a point to prove after a poor 2017. Roscommon i think will be in with a good shout for promotion. Hard to know what to make of meath, they always put out good vibes and over confidence but usually let themselves down and end up in mediocrity. Clare i think have reached their ceiling, if they finish 6th or 5th theyll be delighted. Louth i just cant see staying up and if they do then it will be a brilliant effort
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: SHEEDY on December 31, 2017, 08:47:14 PM
loads of evenly matched teams in this division and a couple of points either way could have you in relegation trouble or chasing promotion. we (Down) just survived by the skin of our teeth last year and with only 3 home games it could easily be something similar this year.
Is the Down panel for 2018 stronger or weaker than 2017?
last years goalie micky cunningham has left the panel to go to work in america and jerome johnson has gone travelling and wont be available for the league campaign added to that is the retirements of mark poland and aiden carr. the big thing for down is the fact that the likes of connaire harrison and darragh o hanlon will be no longer unknown quantities. hopefully we can build on last year and have a good league.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: ardtole on January 01, 2018, 07:45:16 AM
Shane Harrison has been called up to the squad, probably as a direct replacement for Cunningham.

 Johnstone will be a miss but Niall Madine has committed for this year, he would be a similar style of player to Connaire Harrison so it will be interesting to see if they can work together.

Carr and Poland had limited game time last year and Burns seems to prefer Maginn to Poland. All in all I think we can improve on last year and be quite competitive in div 2 but I am a sucker too for pre season optimism.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: thejuice on January 02, 2018, 11:17:28 AM
Meath squad announced last week. No one from O’Mahony’s and more from Rathoath than Simonstown is an eyebrow raiser. We won’t have Keoghan for the league. Ronan Jones, Paddy O’Rourke, Pauric Harnan, Joe Sheridan and Ruari O Coilleann all excluded themselves from the panel. Harry Rooney has returned from Australia at least

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Eamon Wallace, Brian Power, Joey Wallace, Conor McGill, Bryan McMahon, Cian O'Brien (Ratoath)
Brian Conlon, Mark McCabe, Podge McKeever, Sean Tobin (Simonstown)
David Gallagher, Shane McEntee, Seamus Lavin, Donal Lenihan (Dunboyne)
Andy Colgan, Sean Curran, Bryan Menton (Ashbounre)
Paddy Kennelly, Conor Dempsey, Luke Martyn (Dunderry)
Robert Garry, Caolach Halligan, Donal Keoghan (Rathkenny)
Shane Glynn, Dan O'Neill, Thomas O'Reilly (Tones)
Biggie, Ben Brennan (Cillies)
Dave Toner, James McEntee (Curragha)
Alan Douglas, Luke Moran (Trim)
Harry Rooney, Eoghan Greene (Skryne)
Mickey Burke (Longwood)
Liam Ferguson (Kells)
Barry Dardis (Summerhill)
Adam Flanagan (Clonard)
Daragh Griffin (Athboy)
Adam McDermott (Dunshauglin)
Cillian O'Sullivan (Moynalvey).

Not seeing a whole lot of strength in that squad and so many places up for grabs and lads still yet to prove themselves that suggests we’ll be treading water at best this year but my gut feeling is we’ll be in the relegation mix up this year and Longford might well turn us over in Leinster.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Hardy on January 02, 2018, 02:59:38 PM
... and that's if things go well.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on January 02, 2018, 03:23:07 PM
Meath population 195,044 in 2016 Census (3 time Ros or Monaghan)
Now very much an Intermediate team.
Where did it all go wrong lads and lassies?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 02, 2018, 03:25:02 PM
Not sure how much of a loss Paddy O’Rourke will be he was prone to a lot of errors. Keoghan,Harnan are two good defenders they will be a big loss. Joe Sheridan coming back as a keeper didn't seem to catch fire. Rooney looked a good player before he left for Australia

Meath have been in the promotion mix the last few years will be a big surprise if they are in a relegation battle this year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on January 02, 2018, 03:41:51 PM
Meath population 195,044 in 2016 Census (3 time Ros or Monaghan)
Now very much an Intermediate team.
Where did it all go wrong lads and lassies?
80s and 90s they had a good batch of footballers and they were managed by a very wise head in Sean Boylan. Since Sean left things turned south, the quality of players no longer there and only recently they started improving things at county underage and club level.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on January 02, 2018, 04:06:34 PM
Meath population 195,044 in 2016 Census (3 time Ros or Monaghan)
Now very much an Intermediate team.
Where did it all go wrong lads and lassies?
80s and 90s they had a good batch of footballers and they were managed by a very wise head in Sean Boylan. Since Sean left things turned south, the quality of players no longer there and only recently they started improving things at county underage and club level.

I'd say it is not so easy to harness the commuter belt people that work in the city and moved out. That would be a big part of the current population. I am sure the competition from other sports is also much higher than it used to be. Still there does appear to have been an element in Meath football that didn't want to move with the times convinced that the Meath way could still overcome. Cavan thought the same leaving the 60s and crashed through the floor and are really struggling to be relevant again. Its a slippery slope to climb back up once you go down.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on January 02, 2018, 04:24:04 PM
The GAA needs a strong Meath because if we start losing Counties with big young populations were in bother.
Also to
Keep some manners on Dublin
And
So we can all have a team to dislike 😆
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on January 02, 2018, 04:52:40 PM
The GAA needs a strong Meath because if we start losing Counties with big young populations were in bother.
Also to
Keep some manners on Dublin
And
So we can all have a team to dislike 😆

If you're only coming to the realisation the GAA is in bother now, welcome to 2013.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Smurfy123 on January 02, 2018, 05:09:23 PM
Division 2 is no where near as strong as last year in my opinion
A lot of average teams with Louth likely to be the whipping boys of it
Meath Cavan and Cork seem to have lost a lot of players in the off season so I wouldn’t expect any of those 3 to be in promotion territory
Clare would be the next favourites to go down along with Meath
That leaves Ourselves Down Roscommon and Tipperary for promotion
I would have Roscommon as favourites to go up and Down as well
It really is a poor division this year
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on January 02, 2018, 05:11:55 PM
The GAA needs a strong Meath because if we start losing Counties with big young populations were in bother.
Also to
Keep some manners on Dublin
And
So we can all have a team to dislike 😆

If you're only coming to the realisation the GAA is in bother now, welcome to 2013.
Adult discussion !Please go out and play😅
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on January 02, 2018, 05:14:29 PM
Division 2 is no where near as strong as last year in my opinion
A lot of average teams with Louth likely to be the whipping boys of it
Meath Cavan and Cork seem to have lost a lot of players in the off season so I wouldn’t expect any of those 3 to be in promotion territory
Clare would be the next favourites to go down along with Meath
That leaves Ourselves Down Roscommon and Tipperary for promotion
I would have Roscommon as favourites to go up and Down as well

It really is a poor division this year

I still think Down will be looking at the other end of the table come the end of the league. Can only see us beating Louth and Clare. Cavan and Tipp at a push.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 02, 2018, 05:38:24 PM
Division 2 is no where near as strong as last year in my opinion
A lot of average teams with Louth likely to be the whipping boys of it
Meath Cavan and Cork seem to have lost a lot of players in the off season so I wouldn’t expect any of those 3 to be in promotion territory
Clare would be the next favourites to go down along with Meath
That leaves Ourselves Down Roscommon and Tipperary for promotion
I would have Roscommon as favourites to go up and Down as well
It really is a poor division this year

Speaking for ourselves (tipp) we could very easily go either way, I wouldnt be surprised if we go straight back down as we have traditionally been poor in the league even last year when we won div 3 we were poor but equally cavan and cork are both favourites to go up, we beat cavan in breffini last year in the championship and over the last 3/4 years weve played cork 3 times and theres only been a point either way between us each time so theres noone in div 2 we cant mix it with. The louth match is the only match at home id be targeting as a win every other game i think we can easily win or lose depending on the day. Really looking forward to getting back to it.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Smurfy123 on January 02, 2018, 06:46:49 PM
Meath are very poor too and with the Nemo players missing for at least 4 games that will hamper Cork
Roscommon
Down
Cork
Tipp
Cavan
Meath
Clare
Louth

Louth could go the whole campaign without a win
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on January 02, 2018, 07:49:33 PM
Cavan could be relegated. I've being speaking to players and it's shocking what's going on.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on January 02, 2018, 08:24:50 PM
How many Nemo Rangers players was on the Cork team that brought Mayo to extra time this summer? Cork should be there or thereabouts for promotion this year IMO.

On the strength of div 2 I don't think it's much different from last year. Roscommon replace Galway you could say like for like. Cavan replace kildare again similar ranked sides. Tipp replace Derry while Louth instead of Fermanagh with their former manager.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 02, 2018, 08:39:32 PM
How many Nemo Rangers players was on the Cork team that brought Mayo to extra time this summer? Cork should be there or thereabouts for promotion this year IMO.

On the strength of div 2 I don't think it's much different from last year. Roscommon replace Galway you could say like for like. Cavan replace kildare again similar ranked sides. Tipp replace Derry while Louth instead of Fermanagh with their former manager.

4 nemo players on that team. I find it hard to use mayo games as benchmarks for teams, derry, cork and roscommon could have easily beaten them and galway did, mayo seem to either raise or lower their performances based on the opposition.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on January 02, 2018, 09:12:39 PM
Meath squad announced last week. No one from O’Mahony’s and more from Rathoath than Simonstown is an eyebrow raiser. We won’t have Keoghan for the league. Ronan Jones, Paddy O’Rourke, Pauric Harnan, Joe Sheridan and Ruari O Coilleann all excluded themselves from the panel. Harry Rooney has returned from Australia at least

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Eamon Wallace, Brian Power, Joey Wallace, Conor McGill, Bryan McMahon, Cian O'Brien (Ratoath)
Brian Conlon, Mark McCabe, Podge McKeever, Sean Tobin (Simonstown)
David Gallagher, Shane McEntee, Seamus Lavin, Donal Lenihan (Dunboyne)
Andy Colgan, Sean Curran, Bryan Menton (Ashbounre)
Paddy Kennelly, Conor Dempsey, Luke Martyn (Dunderry)
Robert Garry, Caolach Halligan, Donal Keoghan (Rathkenny)
Shane Glynn, Dan O'Neill, Thomas O'Reilly (Tones)
Biggie, Ben Brennan (Cillies)
Dave Toner, James McEntee (Curragha)
Alan Douglas, Luke Moran (Trim)
Harry Rooney, Eoghan Greene (Skryne)
Mickey Burke (Longwood)
Liam Ferguson (Kells)
Barry Dardis (Summerhill)
Adam Flanagan (Clonard)
Daragh Griffin (Athboy)
Adam McDermott (Dunshauglin)
Cillian O'Sullivan (Moynalvey).

Not seeing a whole lot of strength in that squad and so many places up for grabs and lads still yet to prove themselves that suggests we’ll be treading water at best this year but my gut feeling is we’ll be in the relegation mix up this year and Longford might well turn us over in Leinster.

Whatever about Eamon Wallace who at one stage looked like he had serious potential but I cannot understand how Joey Wallace can still make a senior intercounty panel.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on January 02, 2018, 09:15:58 PM
Meath squad announced last week. No one from O’Mahony’s and more from Rathoath than Simonstown is an eyebrow raiser. We won’t have Keoghan for the league. Ronan Jones, Paddy O’Rourke, Pauric Harnan, Joe Sheridan and Ruari O Coilleann all excluded themselves from the panel. Harry Rooney has returned from Australia at least

Quote
Eamon Wallace, Brian Power, Joey Wallace, Conor McGill, Bryan McMahon, Cian O'Brien (Ratoath)
Brian Conlon, Mark McCabe, Podge McKeever, Sean Tobin (Simonstown)
David Gallagher, Shane McEntee, Seamus Lavin, Donal Lenihan (Dunboyne)
Andy Colgan, Sean Curran, Bryan Menton (Ashbounre)
Paddy Kennelly, Conor Dempsey, Luke Martyn (Dunderry)
Robert Garry, Caolach Halligan, Donal Keoghan (Rathkenny)
Shane Glynn, Dan O'Neill, Thomas O'Reilly (Tones)
Biggie, Ben Brennan (Cillies)
Dave Toner, James McEntee (Curragha)
Alan Douglas, Luke Moran (Trim)
Harry Rooney, Eoghan Greene (Skryne)
Mickey Burke (Longwood)
Liam Ferguson (Kells)
Barry Dardis (Summerhill)
Adam Flanagan (Clonard)
Daragh Griffin (Athboy)
Adam McDermott (Dunshauglin)
Cillian O'Sullivan (Moynalvey).

Not seeing a whole lot of strength in that squad and so many places up for grabs and lads still yet to prove themselves that suggests we’ll be treading water at best this year but my gut feeling is we’ll be in the relegation mix up this year and Longford might well turn us over in Leinster.

Whatever about Eamon Wallace who at one stage looked like he had serious potential but I cannot understand how Joey Wallace can still make a senior intercounty panel.

No wonder the rest of Leinster is in a state if you think writing off a 22 year old is the smart approach..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on January 02, 2018, 09:20:23 PM
I didn't realise he was still that young as he has been around a while but I stand by my point.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on January 03, 2018, 02:15:33 PM
It is great to be away from Meath this year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on January 03, 2018, 04:34:05 PM
So as ye can have a goid laugh at the end if March --
Ros and Cork to go up.
Louth and Clare to go down.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Gael85 on January 03, 2018, 05:32:24 PM
Clare will be under pressure. Gary Brennan, Eoin Cleary,Ciaran Russell,  David Tubridy, Keelan Sexton, Kevin Harnet and Martin McMahon are unavailable .Joe Hayes has retired
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: AZOffaly on January 03, 2018, 05:39:00 PM
Clare will be under pressure. Gary Brennan, Eoin Cleary,Ciaran Russell,  David Tubridy, Keelan Sexton, Kevin Harnet and Martin McMahon are unavailable .Joe Hayes has retired

Why are they unavailable? Tubridy Sexton and Brennan are big losses especially.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Gael85 on January 03, 2018, 05:49:29 PM
McMahon got married and the others are injured. Majority are expected to miss first 3 league games. It gives them chance to blood new players as lack of bench cost them in league and Mayo last year
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: AZOffaly on January 03, 2018, 05:50:18 PM
McMahon got married and the others are injured. Majority are expected to miss first 3 league games. It gives them chance to blood new players as lack of bench cost them in league and Mayo last year

According to the Clare management they are all expected back for first game of the year?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Gael85 on January 03, 2018, 05:54:46 PM
Have you link for that? Read that in Clare champion a couple weeks ago . Dean Ryan and Darren Nagle are in Oz and missing too.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: shark on January 03, 2018, 05:58:42 PM
Cleary, Brennan and Tubridy will all be fine for first round of league, bar picking up another injury in the meantime.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: AZOffaly on January 03, 2018, 06:11:45 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/Clare/Article/Index/279451 (http://www.hoganstand.com/Clare/Article/Index/279451)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Gael85 on January 03, 2018, 06:31:13 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/Clare/Article/Index/279451 (http://www.hoganstand.com/Clare/Article/Index/279451)

Great news. Clare will need everyone especially for first few games.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on January 04, 2018, 12:39:36 AM
World's greatest division.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: LooseCannon on January 04, 2018, 12:43:23 AM
World's greatest division.
Nah, I think that’s Arles in Leix
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on January 04, 2018, 09:37:32 PM
World's greatest division.
Nah, I think that’s Arles in Leix
Leix/Laois is hardly in this world :o
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: LooseCannon on January 04, 2018, 10:16:22 PM
World's greatest division.
Nah, I think that’s Arles in Leix
Leix/Laois is hardly in this world :o

Some would argue the same for Roscommon.
I hear that there’s no such thing as H2O there. ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Kurtz on January 15, 2018, 02:01:56 PM
Meath population 195,044 in 2016 Census (3 time Ros or Monaghan)
Now very much an Intermediate team.
Where did it all go wrong lads and lassies?
80s and 90s they had a good batch of footballers and they were managed by a very wise head in Sean Boylan. Since Sean left things turned south, the quality of players no longer there and only recently they started improving things at county underage and club level.

I'd say it is not so easy to harness the commuter belt people that work in the city and moved out. That would be a big part of the current population. I am sure the competition from other sports is also much higher than it used to be. Still there does appear to have been an element in Meath football that didn't want to move with the times convinced that the Meath way could still overcome. Cavan thought the same leaving the 60s and crashed through the floor and are really struggling to be relevant again. Its a slippery slope to climb back up once you go down.

Everyone I know in Meath plays Rugby
Yet their parents would have all played GAA
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 17, 2018, 11:17:30 PM
We were due to play UCD in a challenge last night but was called off due to the bad weather, only had two very easy games this year that i know of, would have rathered a stiffer test and UCD game wouldve been ideal game before heading into the league.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: giveballaghback on January 21, 2018, 08:36:24 PM
Well here we go, league starting this weekend, here is my predictions for div 2
Rossies to beat the royals
Cavan to beat Clare
Cork to beat Tipp
Down to beat Louth.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on January 21, 2018, 08:48:30 PM
Has next week's game been switched to Kiltoom yet?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on January 21, 2018, 09:00:21 PM
Them days are gone thank God ;)
Syfīn still in mourning though.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on January 21, 2018, 11:06:20 PM
Well here we go, league starting this weekend, here is my predictions for div 2
Rossies to beat the royals
Cavan to beat Clare
Cork to beat Tipp
Down to beat Louth.

Agree with all that expect Clare will likely best Cavan.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 22, 2018, 12:09:19 AM
looking at it i think we are the value bet of the round, theres been a kick of the ball in it between ourselves and cork the last 4 years, they are missing loads through retirements, club and retirements. we are a summer team usually and dont perform in the league but 2/1 is very good
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on January 22, 2018, 07:29:19 AM
Clare v Cavan
Cork v Tipp
Louth v Down
Roscommon v Meath
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: twohands!!! on January 22, 2018, 12:01:58 PM
looking at it i think we are the value bet of the round, theres been a kick of the ball in it between ourselves and cork the last 4 years, they are missing loads through retirements, club and retirements. we are a summer team usually and dont perform in the league but 2/1 is very good

I wouldn't be surprised to see Cork struggling a lot in terms of defence - O'Halloran in goals (who was only middling enough has retired and there looks to be no obvious natural successor) Cadogan has jumped ship to the hurlers, Shields has retired , Stephen Cronin is missing with Nemo. They conceded 3-12 to Clare in their last game ; 1-9 (1-7 from play)of it to the Clare full-forward line

Just looked at their back 7 for the MCGrath Cup

1. Mark White (Clonakilty)
2. Sam Ryan (St Finbarr’s)
3. Conor Dorman (Bishopstown)
4. Michael McSweeney (Newcestown)
5. Padraig Clancy (Fermoy)
6. Kevin Flahive (Douglas)
7. Cian Kiely (Ballincollig)

It wasn't as if there were a huge pile of options on the bench either - the only one of the 7 subbed was
Ian Maguire (St Finbarr’s) for Dorman (53)

I would have said Dorman was more of a natural wing-back and Maguire is a midfielder so I'm not sure what was going on there.

Overall though that looks like a very unsettled/experimental defence and while it was only a one-off game, it's not as if there is much in the way of options in terms of fixing it up.

If Quinlivan and Sweeney are available and they get any sort of reasonable share of ball I could see them getting a lot of joy from that defence.

Even though I'm not a fan of betting on the first round of league games in general I think I might have a minor nibble.



Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 22, 2018, 01:08:32 PM
Shields retired is a bonus to Cork. He was total liability the last few years of his career.  Where are defenders J Loughrey, J O’Sullivan,T Clancy that started against Mayo last summer?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Horse Box on January 22, 2018, 02:01:31 PM
Cavan
Tipp
Down
Roscommon

Tipp have been going really well Preseason . Steven O`Brien in Midfield will supply the Forwards with plenty of ball . 7/4 is a serious price with PP ! ! !
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: oliverkelly on January 22, 2018, 03:50:18 PM
Who did they play in Preseason?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Farrandeelin on January 22, 2018, 03:58:45 PM
I will be shocked if Roscommon don't get promoted again. There's no distractions, such as managerial upheaval like last year and I reckon Ros can afford to go for it as it probably will be mid June when they face stiff opposition afterwards.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on January 22, 2018, 07:02:38 PM
There's a dodgy midfield and we're not too good at defending.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on January 22, 2018, 07:25:28 PM
There's a dodgy midfield and we're not too good at defending.

Who needs a defence when you can out score the opposition? That dodgy midfield contains our best player and our best rookie from last season..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Aristo 60 on January 22, 2018, 07:28:08 PM
There's a dodgy midfield and we're not too good at defending.

Who needs a defence when you can out score the opposition? That dodgy midfield contains our best player and our best rookie from last season..

Down tried that for years!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on January 22, 2018, 07:31:06 PM
I will be shocked if Roscommon don't get promoted again. There's no distractions, such as managerial upheaval like last year and I reckon Ros can afford to go for it as it probably will be mid June when they face stiff opposition afterwards.

On paper Roscommon should get up but their biggest problem will be their own arrogance as epitomized by Syphilis. But I do believe they are the best team in this division.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on January 22, 2018, 07:34:31 PM
I will be shocked if Roscommon don't get promoted again. There's no distractions, such as managerial upheaval like last year and I reckon Ros can afford to go for it as it probably will be mid June when they face stiff opposition afterwards.

On paper Roscommon should get up but their biggest problem will be their own arrogance as epitomized by Syphilis. But I do believe they are the best team in this division.

I was taking the piss, you eejit.

You’d need to be concussed to not know we’ve had historical problems defensively. That said we showed more in that area last summer than in any year in about a decade and a half, at least until we ran out of gas in the replay.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on January 22, 2018, 07:41:31 PM
I will be shocked if Roscommon don't get promoted again. There's no distractions, such as managerial upheaval like last year and I reckon Ros can afford to go for it as it probably will be mid June when they face stiff opposition afterwards.

On paper Roscommon should get up but their biggest problem will be their own arrogance as epitomized by Syphilis. But I do believe they are the best team in this division.

I was taking the piss, you eejit.

You’d need to be concussed to not know we’ve had historical problems defensively. That said we showed more in that area last summer than in any year in about a decade and a half, at least until we ran out of gas in the replay.

I wrote what I think. He are best team but your arrogance is famous. Stay focused and treat teams with respect and he should go up.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on January 22, 2018, 08:32:46 PM
There's a dodgy midfield and we're not too good at defending.

That dodgy midfield contains our best player and our best rookie from last season..
One big game doesn't make a lad our best player.
Brian Stack mightn't agree with your 2nd point.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 22, 2018, 09:06:09 PM
Cavan
Tipp
Down
Roscommon

Tipp have been going really well Preseason . Steven O`Brien in Midfield will supply the Forwards with plenty of ball . 7/4 is a serious price with PP ! ! !

you can get 2/1 in ladbrokes. Weve went well, beat limerick before christmas and CIT and garda collage last few weeks, all big wins. Were due to play UCD last tuesday which wouldve wrapped it up nicely. No real challenge at all but Cork played waterford in a non contest and had a good game v clare but it will be interesting to see how many of them play against tipp. Patience might be needed with O'Brien, his club dont play football so he hasnt really played any football the last couple of years, might have a few hit and miss games before getting fully up to speed. Jack kennedy is one im expecting alot from this year. We have plenty of options at midfield this year compared to championship game against them last year when we had to bring quinlivan out the pitch, himself and sweeney will be able stay in the full forward line for the most part now and if they are on song cork will do very well with what looks a poor line of the team for them to contain them. Confident going into this game although weary aswell given we are usually a summer team who dont perform well in the league, will possibly be missing 1 or 2 experienced players for this one  and its cork playing their first game in the new stadium doubled with the hurlers and they are capable of absolutely anything good or bad
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on January 22, 2018, 09:22:38 PM
There's a dodgy midfield and we're not too good at defending.

That dodgy midfield contains our best player and our best rookie from last season..
One big game doesn't make a lad our best player.
Brian Stack mightn't agree with your 2nd point.

Strange that I remember Enda being awarded the MotM after the semi too so. Stack had a great championship but TOR had a great year in a position that was causing issues since Cathal Shine and Kevin Higgins formed a good partnership in 2014.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 25, 2018, 09:06:06 PM
Will be interesting to see how close this will be to the final standings


Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 25, 2018, 09:13:30 PM
Week 1 betting.

Clare Cavan a draw for me
Cork Tipp I think we are great value at that price
Louth down...Louth good value too, seemed like they treated the league last year as their championship and were ahead of most in the division in terms of fitness and preparations
Roscommon Meath...Hard to look past Roscommon based on their results so far this year even though Meath have done well also so far


Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on January 25, 2018, 09:22:34 PM
1. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
2. Dónal Monahan (Drumlane)
3. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
4. David Phillips (Gowna)
5. Darragh Kennedy (Killygarry)
6. Ciaran Brady (Arvagh)
7. Oisin Kiernan (Castlerahan)
8. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
9. Jack Wharton (Cornafean)
10. Enda Flanagan (Castlerahan)
11. Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)
12. David Brady (Ballyhaise)
13. Caoimhin O’Reilly (Butlersbridge)
14. Bryan Magee (Cuchulainns)
15. Adrian Cole (Ramor United)

16. James Farrelly (Kingscourt)
17. Conor Brady (Gowna)
18. Conor Bradley (Ramor United)
19. Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise)
20. Niall Clerkin (Shercock)
21. Ryan Connolly (Drumlane)
22. Niall McKiernan (Lacken)
23. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
24. Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar)
25. Conor Madden (Gowna)
26. Paul Gilcreest (Lavey)
27. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
28. Thomas Galligan (Lacken)

Cavan with an incredible 10 debutants.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: twohands!!! on January 25, 2018, 09:36:17 PM
1. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
2. Dónal Monahan (Drumlane)
3. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
4. David Phillips (Gowna)
5. Darragh Kennedy (Killygarry)
6. Ciaran Brady (Arvagh)
7. Oisin Kiernan (Castlerahan)
8. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
9. Jack Wharton (Cornafean)
10. Enda Flanagan (Castlerahan)
11. Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)
12. David Brady (Ballyhaise)
13. Caoimhin O’Reilly (Butlersbridge)
14. Bryan Magee (Cuchulainns)
15. Adrian Cole (Ramor United)

16. James Farrelly (Kingscourt)
17. Conor Brady (Gowna)
18. Conor Bradley (Ramor United)
19. Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise)
20. Niall Clerkin (Shercock)
21. Ryan Connolly (Drumlane)
22. Niall McKiernan (Lacken)
23. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
24. Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar)
25. Conor Madden (Gowna)
26. Paul Gilcreest (Lavey)
27. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
28. Thomas Galligan (Lacken)

Cavan with an incredible 10 debutants.

Has to be a strong possibility of a dummy team here, especially looking at some of names on the bench.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: twohands!!! on January 25, 2018, 09:42:26 PM



Fairly strong looking Tipp team named
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: twohands!!! on January 25, 2018, 10:12:43 PM
Cork have named a squad of only 23 ? - Wonder if that was what was submitted to Croke Park?

To me it looks a questionable enough team - defence isn't the most experienced and the attack isn't exactly brimming in terms of scoring power. Tipp have posed difficulties for Cork any time they met them in the last few years and I'd expect more of the same on Saturday.

Quote
1. Mark White (Clonakilty)
2. Sam Ryan (St Finbarrs)
3. Jamie O Sullivan (Bishopstown)
4. Micheal McSweeney (Newcestown)
5. Kevin Flahive (Douglas)
6. Kevin Crowley (Millstreet)
7. Brian O Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
8. Ian Maguire (St Finbarrs) Captain
9. Daniel O Callaghan (Clyda Rovers)
10. Sean White (Clonakilty)
11. Sean Powter (Douglas)
12. Ruairi Deane (Bantry Blues)
13. John O Rourke (Carbery Rangers)
14. Mark Collins (Castlehaven)
15. Stephen Sherlock (St Finbarrs)
Subs:
16. Ryan Price (O Donovan Rossa)
17. Eoin Lavers (Dohenys)
18. Conor Dorman (Bishopstown)
19. Tomas Clancy (Fermoy)
20. Kevin O Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
21. Cillian O Hanlon (Kilshannig)
22. Michael Hurley (Castlehaven)
23. Colm O'Neill (Ballyclough)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 25, 2018, 10:45:33 PM
Cork have named a squad of only 23 ? - Wonder if that was what was submitted to Croke Park?

To me it looks a questionable enough team - defence isn't the most experienced and the attack isn't exactly brimming in terms of scoring power. Tipp have posed difficulties for Cork any time they met them in the last few years and I'd expect more of the same on Saturday.

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1. Mark White (Clonakilty)
2. Sam Ryan (St Finbarrs)
3. Jamie O Sullivan (Bishopstown)
4. Micheal McSweeney (Newcestown)
5. Kevin Flahive (Douglas)
6. Kevin Crowley (Millstreet)
7. Brian O Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
8. Ian Maguire (St Finbarrs) Captain
9. Daniel O Callaghan (Clyda Rovers)
10. Sean White (Clonakilty)
11. Sean Powter (Douglas)
12. Ruairi Deane (Bantry Blues)
13. John O Rourke (Carbery Rangers)
14. Mark Collins (Castlehaven)
15. Stephen Sherlock (St Finbarrs)
Subs:
16. Ryan Price (O Donovan Rossa)
17. Eoin Lavers (Dohenys)
18. Conor Dorman (Bishopstown)
19. Tomas Clancy (Fermoy)
20. Kevin O Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
21. Cillian O Hanlon (Kilshannig)
22. Michael Hurley (Castlehaven)
23. Colm O'Neill (Ballyclough)

Them cute hoors are up to something!! After seeing both teams id be more confident but its cork and they believe they can beat anyone and when they get momentum going are always tough to stop
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on January 25, 2018, 11:13:25 PM
I had Cork and Cavan down to win this weekend but after looking at the teams they have both picked i'm not so sure now.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: SHEEDY on January 26, 2018, 07:18:27 PM
down team to play louth;

shane harrison      glasdrumman

colm flanagan       castlewellan
gerard mcgovern   burren
brendan mcardle   annaclone

darragh o'hanlon   kilcoo
niall mcparland     glenn
anthony doherty   downpatrick

niall donnelly        tullylish
connor poland       longstone

shay millar            glenn
connor maginn      bryansford
caolan mooney      rostrevor

ronan millar           glenn
connaire harrison   glasdrumman
aaron morgan        kilcoo
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Gael85 on January 26, 2018, 08:25:46 PM
Clare (Allianz League v Cavan): Killian Roche; Cian O'Dea, Cillian Brennan, Gordon Kelly; Pearse Lills, Ciaran Russell, Jamie Malone; Gary Brennan, Cathal O'Connor; Alan Sweeney, Eoin Cleary, Gearoid O'Brien; Eibhin Courtney, Keelan Sexton, Conor Finnucane

Very experimental Clare team. Look very weak in backs. Eibhim Courtney and Conor Finucane are 2 promising young players who will hopefully add more firepower to the Clare attack.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 26, 2018, 08:50:30 PM
Clare (Allianz League v Cavan): Killian Roche; Cian O'Dea, Cillian Brennan, Gordon Kelly; Pearse Lills, Ciaran Russell, Jamie Malone; Gary Brennan, Cathal O'Connor; Alan Sweeney, Eoin Cleary, Gearoid O'Brien; Eibhin Courtney, Keelan Sexton, Conor Finnucane

Very experimental Clare team. Look very weak in backs. Eibhim Courtney and Conor Finucane are 2 promising young players who will hopefully add more firepower to the Clare attack.

9 of that Clare team started against Mayo last summer its a lot less experimental than the Cavan team that is named to start.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on January 26, 2018, 10:34:28 PM
Roscommon team and subs.

Roscommon: Colm Lavin; David Murray, John McManus, Niall McInerney; Fergal Lennon, Sean Mullooly, Conor Devaney; Tadgh O'Rourke, Ian Kilbride; Niall Daly, Niall Kilroy, Enda Smith; Diarmuid Murtagh, Ciaran Lennon, Ciarain Murtagh

Subs: James Featherstone, Cathal Cregg, Cian McKeon, Conor Daly, Donie Smith, Finbar Cregg, Fintan Cregg, Peter Domican, Ronan Daly, Sean McDermott.

Louth team

1. Craig Lynch (Jocks)
2. John Bingham (Marys)
3. Emmet Carolan (Blues)
4. James Craven (Gers)
5. Darren Monks (Cooley)
6. Bevan Duffy (Feckins)
7. Anthony Williams (Dreads)
8. Andy McDonnell (Blues)
9. Tommy Durnin (Westies)
10. Derek Maguire (D.Y.I)
11. Jim McEneaney (Gers)
12. Ger McSorley (Gaels)
13. Declan Byrne (Mochs)
14. Ryan Burns (Hunterstown)
15. William Woods (Barrs)

That leaves only Meath of the div 2 sides that has to name their team.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on January 26, 2018, 10:45:26 PM
What's with the Louth club names?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on January 26, 2018, 11:29:17 PM
What's with the Louth club names?
Got team from elsewhere, short names for clubs i presume.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Ball Hopper on January 27, 2018, 12:35:28 AM
Had a bit of time earlier to look up the clubs...

1. Craig Lynch (Jocks)  Nickname of Naomh Mairtin clubin Monasterboice.  Nickname started with the 1962-1964 team’s affinity for dancing after training and games due to the team being mainly young and single.

2. John Bingham (Marys)  Ardee St. Mary’s
3. Emmet Carolan (Blues)  Newtown Blues
4. James Craven (Gers)  Geraldines, representing the parish of Haggardstown and Blackrock.

5. Darren Monks (Cooley)  Cooley Kickhams, near Carlingford
6. Bevan Duffy (Feckins)  St. Fechins, Termonfeckin
7. Anthony Williams (Dreads) Dreadnots, Clogherhead.  No idea where the Dreadnots name came from.

8. Andy McDonnell (Blues) Newtown Blues, Drogheda
9. Tommy Durnin (Westies)  Westerns, Reaghstown, Ardee

10. Derek Maguire (D.Y.I) Dundalk Young Irelands
11. Jim McEneaney (Gers) Geraldines, representing the parish of Haggardstown and Blackrock.
12. Ger McSorley (Gaels) Dundalk Gaels

13. Declan Byrne (Mochs) St. Mochta’s, Louth Village
14. Ryan Burns (Hunterstown) Hunterstown Rovers, Ardee
15. William Woods (Barrs) Naomh Fionnbarra, Togher

Can anyone shed light on how Dreadnots got their name?


Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on January 27, 2018, 08:16:04 AM
We have Mullahoran Dreadnoughts in cavan too. I always took it to mean they feared no one but maybe something else behind it.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on January 27, 2018, 10:11:42 AM
Had a bit of time earlier to look up the clubs...

1. Craig Lynch (Jocks)  Nickname of Naomh Mairtin clubin Monasterboice.  Nickname started with the 1962-1964 team’s affinity for dancing after training and games due to the team being mainly young and single.

2. John Bingham (Marys)  Ardee St. Mary’s
3. Emmet Carolan (Blues)  Newtown Blues
4. James Craven (Gers)  Geraldines, representing the parish of Haggardstown and Blackrock.

5. Darren Monks (Cooley)  Cooley Kickhams, near Carlingford
6. Bevan Duffy (Feckins)  St. Fechins, Termonfeckin
7. Anthony Williams (Dreads) Dreadnots, Clogherhead.  No idea where the Dreadnots name came from.

8. Andy McDonnell (Blues) Newtown Blues, Drogheda
9. Tommy Durnin (Westies)  Westerns, Reaghstown, Ardee

10. Derek Maguire (D.Y.I) Dundalk Young Irelands
11. Jim McEneaney (Gers) Geraldines, representing the parish of Haggardstown and Blackrock.
12. Ger McSorley (Gaels) Dundalk Gaels

13. Declan Byrne (Mochs) St. Mochta’s, Louth Village
14. Ryan Burns (Hunterstown) Hunterstown Rovers, Ardee
15. William Woods (Barrs) Naomh Fionnbarra, Togher

Can anyone shed light on how Dreadnots got their name?
A dreadnought was a British navy ship and Clogher head is a fishing port.Maybe it was a joke.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on January 27, 2018, 01:17:00 PM
The Meath 26 for Sunday


Andrew Colgan;
Seamus Lavin, Conor McGill, Mickey Burke;
 Donal Keogan, Brian Power, Shane McEntee;
Bryan Menton, Adam Flanagan;
James McEntee, Ben Brennan, Graham Reilly;
Joey Wallace, Cillian O'Sullivan, Thomas O'Reilly.

Subs: David Gallagher, Shane Glynn, Alan Douglas, Brían Conlon, Harry Rooney, Sean Tobin, Mark McCabe, Bryan McMahon, Eamon Wallace, Padraig McKeever, Daniel O'Neill.




Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 27, 2018, 02:45:42 PM
Clare 1-7 Cavan 1-2 ht
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on January 27, 2018, 03:05:21 PM
Clare 1-7 Cavan 1-2 ht

Apart from Galway in the final Clare were the best team Kildare faced in division 2 last year. It would not surprise me one iota to see them promoted.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on January 27, 2018, 03:33:17 PM
Allianz Football League Div 2 Rd 1
31mins 2nd Half
Clare: 1-10(13) Cavan: 2-8(14)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on January 27, 2018, 03:38:47 PM
Finished 1-12 to 2-09
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 27, 2018, 03:38:58 PM
A draw game, decent result for Cavan considering they were away and had weakened side out.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on January 27, 2018, 05:13:01 PM
Pairc Ui Chaoimh new pitch doesn't look the best as its cutting up a lot. Open game of football so far Tipp 0-4 Cork 0-3
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on January 27, 2018, 05:36:34 PM
HT Cork 0-9 Tipp 0-8. Cork had a penalty saved right before the break.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on January 27, 2018, 05:53:09 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0127/936407-brolly-the-county-game-is-pointless-self-defeating/

Look at Cavan this week. They've had a turnover of ten players. Ten of their best players, after careers lasting about 3-4 years, have decided to call an end to playing county football. Look at their team for (the draw with Clare). It's a team of kids. And in three or four years, they'll say 'what is the point of this?'
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on January 27, 2018, 06:09:19 PM
Cavan did not lose 10 of our best. Our top 7 or 8 players are still all there. There is an issue with the lads dropping off but let's not make it out to be something it's not.

Odd game in Ennis. Could have won it despite being second best for much of the game. We fielded a lot of lads that just aren't near Division 2 standard. Badly need Martin Reilly and Gearoid back. Our attack is completely rudderless when Mackey isn't on the field.

And as for the referee. One of the worst displays I have seen in a few years. Throwing the ball up because Galligan gave the ground a few tips to place the ball before taking a free was probably the highlight. Missed a punch to the face by the Clare number 9 that everyone in the ground saw. A performance so bad that it influenced the result of the game.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Zulu on January 27, 2018, 06:16:03 PM
Fine game in Cork. Tipp kicking for home but a Cork goal keeps them in it.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on January 27, 2018, 06:16:50 PM
Cork 1-13 Tipp 2-13 56 mins played. end to end stuff now no blankets to be seen in this game
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on January 27, 2018, 06:35:22 PM
FT Cork 1-16 Tipp 3-16. Well done to Tipp they stepped it up big time 2nd half.  Cork won't be pushing for promotion if they are to defend that poorly in the rest of their games.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on January 27, 2018, 06:37:34 PM
All the Munster teams have defensive troubles.. should be a good game at Semple next weekend.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: theticklemister on January 27, 2018, 06:42:08 PM
Great game
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 27, 2018, 06:45:20 PM
Lack of experience in that Cork defence couldn't handle Quinlivan,Sweeney and McGrath at all.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on January 27, 2018, 06:47:25 PM
Very good win for Tipp
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on January 27, 2018, 06:50:15 PM
Lack of experience in that Cork defence couldn't handle Quinlivan,Sweeney and McGrath at all.

What was their excuse for the poor defence the last five years then, Cap?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on January 27, 2018, 06:57:22 PM
Cavan did not lose 10 of our best. Our top 7 or 8 players are still all there. There is an issue with the lads dropping off but let's not make it out to be something it's not.

Odd game in Ennis. Could have won it despite being second best for much of the game. We fielded a lot of lads that just aren't near Division 2 standard. Badly need Martin Reilly and Gearoid back. Our attack is completely rudderless when Mackey isn't on the field.

And as for the referee. One of the worst displays I have seen in a few years. Throwing the ball up because Galligan gave the ground a few tips to place the ball before taking a free was probably the highlight. Missed a punch to the face by the Clare number 9 that everyone in the ground saw. A performance so bad that it influenced the result of the game.

Agree with most of that. That referree was one of the worst I ever saw. He single handedly gave Clare 3 points from frees which were crazy. Our lads almost needed to be murdered to get a free. Allowing a Clare man take 10 steps for a shot at goal while earlier doing a cavan man for over carrying despite him not even having the ball in his hand was my highlight. A lot of passengers on that cavan team and Clare will be unhappy not to have taken all 2 points. Thought killian Clarke had a great game as did the holla. FF blunt as s butter knife.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 27, 2018, 07:12:53 PM
Lack of experience in that Cork defence couldn't handle Quinlivan,Sweeney and McGrath at all.

What was their excuse for the poor defence the last five years then, Cap?
1-9 is all a more experienced Cork defence conceded against Tipperary in June. Tipperary could have scored 5-20 tonight.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on January 27, 2018, 07:52:54 PM
Division 2 us the place for entertainment  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on January 27, 2018, 09:08:26 PM
Division 2 us the place for entertainment  ;D

I miss it already, can't wait for 2019.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: AZOffaly on January 27, 2018, 09:54:41 PM
Brilliant start for Tipp. Great to see Steven O Brien back in harness again, even if he looked out on his feet after 10 minutes! Liam McGrath looked knackey and all in all a big important win.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on January 27, 2018, 09:57:37 PM
Cork looked like a much improved outfit for much of the game but will need to find someone capable of marking the likes of Quinlivan and I believe Kerry may have a young lad coming through with a similar skillset who they may see plenty of in the future.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on January 27, 2018, 10:34:09 PM
Cavan did not lose 10 of our best. Our top 7 or 8 players are still all there. There is an issue with the lads dropping off but let's not make it out to be something it's not.

Odd game in Ennis. Could have won it despite being second best for much of the game. We fielded a lot of lads that just aren't near Division 2 standard. Badly need Martin Reilly and Gearoid back. Our attack is completely rudderless when Mackey isn't on the field.

And as for the referee. One of the worst displays I have seen in a few years. Throwing the ball up because Galligan gave the ground a few tips to place the ball before taking a free was probably the highlight. Missed a punch to the face by the Clare number 9 that everyone in the ground saw. A performance so bad that it influenced the result of the game.

Agree with most of that. That referree was one of the worst I ever saw. He single handedly gave Clare 3 points from frees which were crazy. Our lads almost needed to be murdered to get a free. Allowing a Clare man take 10 steps for a shot at goal while earlier doing a cavan man for over carrying despite him not even having the ball in his hand was my highlight. A lot of passengers on that cavan team and Clare will be unhappy not to have taken all 2 points. Thought killian Clarke had a great game as did the holla. FF blunt as s butter knife.

Yeah the FF  line is unsurprisingly a problem. Caoimhin Reilly looks lively but keeps getting the ball with his back to goal out near the 45. Conor Madden won his ball well but had nothing to offer once he had it.

I thought David Brady did well. Looks to be very good in the air. Composed. Surprised he was taken off. And Thomas Galligan has something about him. His point was class but winning that throw up between the two Clare men much bigger than him was big.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 28, 2018, 01:01:35 AM
Since I started this thread I said theres no way cork should be favorites for div 2 with the players they are missing, also said 2/1 was a ridiculous price for tipp tonight. I was satisfied with the win tonight which says alot because for tipp to go to cork and win is rare enough but I fully expected it. Cork were actually better than I thought they would be and I was worried at half time but brilliant 2nd half performance and this year we have a bench that can make a difference. We still have massive scope for improvement, defensively were poor but our full forward line was outstanding. Was a big adjustment for liam mcgrath to come in last year hopefully now that hes more settled in at this level he can carry on tonights form. Quinlivan is a special player who can do everything, O'Brien should get better and better the more games he gets. I fully expected to win tonight, im hopefull next week against roscommon rather than thinking we will win, not getting carried away. If mcguire and powters injuries keep them out for a while cork will struggle big time, they will be a different animal come the summer. Great start to the league for us because it takes the pressure off, a loss tonight with roscommon coming next week we could have been under serious pressure
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Gael85 on January 28, 2018, 08:28:37 AM
A draw game, decent result for Cavan considering they were away and had weakened side out.

Clare didnt have full team either.Missing 4/5 key players which they cant afford to be without. 11 of starting team yesterday was u23.Lack of bench cost yesterday and this also cost them in big games last year.With players opting for hurling and some of the best club players not committing to county scene Colm Collins is doing a remarkable job against the odds.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Hardy on January 28, 2018, 04:09:43 PM
Drama at the Hyde. We seemed to have stolen it 2-12 to 1-12 with 1-5 without reply from four points down. Then a Roscommon penalty levelled it with the last kick of the game.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on January 28, 2018, 05:44:57 PM
Firstly - the equaliser-in-chief again saves our bacon. Storm Salthill in the 2016 Connacht final, last year against Mayo in the AIQF at the death and now this. Donie must have ice in his veins. Even with the ridiculously long delay he nailed the penalty. The lad’s worth his weight in gold. Brilliant.

Up until 60 minutes it was going entirely to plan, bar Meath’s early goal. Backs winning their battles, forwards always looking dangerous and midfield rooting out enough balls to keep the ship going forward.

The wind and the rain picked up around the time of Davy’s black card and Kilroy’s subbing out and all three contributed hugely to our complete lack of form when it came to winning any ball. Even balls we got a handle on spun away from us with the merest touch from a Meathman’s hammy fist.

The nine point swing was incredible and I was sure we were goners but in fairness to the lads they kept fighting and dug a point out of this game, a point and the lack of Meath having a tie-breaker over us that may well be the difference between promotion and stagnation at the end of the league.

We need to turn in a 70 minute display next weekend and not a 60 minute one with a ten minute intermission before injury time like today.

What an exhilarating, beautiful mess football is. Supporting Roscommon is never boring anyways.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on January 28, 2018, 06:39:01 PM
We wuz robbed.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on January 28, 2018, 06:40:07 PM
We wuz robbed.

Mickey Burke got fairly flame-grilled by Diarmuid Murtagh today.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on January 28, 2018, 06:51:13 PM
Mickey wouldn't be used to that oul heavy ground.
He needs good to firm going.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on January 28, 2018, 06:55:24 PM

Allianz FL2   P   W   D   L   Dif   Pts
Down   1   1   0   0   +6   2
Tipp.       1   1   0   0   +6   2
Cavan   1   0   1   0   0   1
Clare   1   0   1   0   0   1
Meath   1   0   1   0   0   1
Ros.        1   0   1   0   0   1
Cork   1   0   0   1   -6   0
Louth   1   0   0   1   -6   0
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on January 28, 2018, 06:56:32 PM
This could end up a very tight division. A big beating could feck up your scoring difference and cause trouble late on.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on January 28, 2018, 07:04:25 PM
Not a good day at the office
Still awful round midfield, didn't make possession count enough on the scoreboard when on top, defence still unable to deal with a lad running at them, some silly substitutions by the cool clean one,
A point dropped in a game we should have gone on to win being 6 points up well into the 2nd half.
Positives -came back well to snatch the draw, great work by Donie Smith who had to wait 3 or 4 minutes to take the penalay as the ref searched for Meath thugs to black card how did 6 not get a red for the earlier decapitation attempt? ).
Young Lennon at full forward will have something to offer.
2 lads proved they're not senior Inter County footballers
An excellent match programme (although not enough printed).
A point gained from a hopeless looking position.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on January 28, 2018, 07:08:46 PM
Not a good day at the office
Still awful round midfield, didn't make possession count enough on the scoreboard when on top, defence still unable to deal with a lad running at them, some silly substitutions by the cool clean one,
A point dropped in a game we should have gone on to win being 6 points up well into the 2nd half.
Positives -came back well to snatch the draw, great work by Donie Smith who had to wait 3 or 4 minutes to take the penalay as the ref searched for Meath thugs to black card how did 6 not get a red for the earlier decapitation attempt? ).
Young Lennon at full forward will have something to offer.
2 lads proved they're not senior Inter County footballers
An excellent match programme (although not enough printed).
A point gained from a hopeless looking position.

No one proved they weren’t anything today.

January and Rossfan is back to writing off players. John Mac and Kilroy were two of your favourite targets the last few years and those predictions didn’t turn out so well, did they? Give the lads a fûcking chance before you back over them with the bus for FFS.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on January 28, 2018, 07:14:59 PM
You're slippin up - Took you 4 minutes ;D
I never dissed Kilroy, he's excellent at running everywhere ad a libero/sweeper but hasn't the physicality needed for getting into close contact.
I still reckon John Mac isn't a Co footballer,  he's good at rootin and horsin though which is probably needed in our team.
Anyway on to Thurles till we show them hurley crowd a thing or 2.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on January 28, 2018, 07:20:22 PM
I can't stand it when ye fight.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 28, 2018, 09:10:43 PM
You're slippin up - Took you 4 minutes ;D
I never dissed Kilroy, he's excellent at running everywhere ad a libero/sweeper but hasn't the physicality needed for getting into close contact.
I still reckon John Mac isn't a Co footballer,  he's good at rootin and horsin though which is probably needed in our team.
Anyway on to Thurles till we show them hurley crowd a thing or 2.

A proud footballing county like yer own should be putting away a team of failed hurlers by double scores next weekend, we barely beat corks 2nd team this weekend.;)

On a serious note could well happen, league throws up funny and inconsistent results and roscommon are a team who are capable of anything good or bad
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Gael85 on January 28, 2018, 09:24:27 PM
Cavan
Tipp
Down
Roscommon

Tipp have been going really well Preseason . Steven O`Brien in Midfield will supply the Forwards with plenty of ball . 7/4 is a serious price with PP ! ! !

you can get 2/1 in ladbrokes. Weve went well, beat limerick before christmas and CIT and garda collage last few weeks, all big wins. Were due to play UCD last tuesday which wouldve wrapped it up nicely. No real challenge at all but Cork played waterford in a non contest and had a good game v clare but it will be interesting to see how many of them play against tipp. Patience might be needed with O'Brien, his club dont play football so he hasnt really played any football the last couple of years, might have a few hit and miss games before getting fully up to speed. Jack kennedy is one im expecting alot from this year. We have plenty of options at midfield this year compared to championship game against them last year when we had to bring quinlivan out the pitch, himself and sweeney will be able stay in the full forward line for the most part now and if they are on song cork will do very well with what looks a poor line of the team for them to contain them. Confident going into this game although weary aswell given we are usually a summer team who dont perform well in the league, will possibly be missing 1 or 2 experienced players for this one  and its cork playing their first game in the new stadium doubled with the hurlers and they are capable of absolutely anything good or bad

Ye have a strong central spine. Are Liam Casey and George Hannigan available too? If can sort out defence and keep lads away from hurlers ye will definitely make the last 8 in championship.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 28, 2018, 09:36:27 PM
Cavan
Tipp
Down
Roscommon

Tipp have been going really well Preseason . Steven O`Brien in Midfield will supply the Forwards with plenty of ball . 7/4 is a serious price with PP ! ! !

you can get 2/1 in ladbrokes. Weve went well, beat limerick before christmas and CIT and garda collage last few weeks, all big wins. Were due to play UCD last tuesday which wouldve wrapped it up nicely. No real challenge at all but Cork played waterford in a non contest and had a good game v clare but it will be interesting to see how many of them play against tipp. Patience might be needed with O'Brien, his club dont play football so he hasnt really played any football the last couple of years, might have a few hit and miss games before getting fully up to speed. Jack kennedy is one im expecting alot from this year. We have plenty of options at midfield this year compared to championship game against them last year when we had to bring quinlivan out the pitch, himself and sweeney will be able stay in the full forward line for the most part now and if they are on song cork will do very well with what looks a poor line of the team for them to contain them. Confident going into this game although weary aswell given we are usually a summer team who dont perform well in the league, will possibly be missing 1 or 2 experienced players for this one  and its cork playing their first game in the new stadium doubled with the hurlers and they are capable of absolutely anything good or bad

Ye have a strong central spine. Are Liam Casey and George Hannigan available too? If can sort out defence and keep lads away from hurlers ye will definitely make the last 8 in championship.

George hannigan got married just after christmas and had his honeymoon so a little behind, he came on in injury time last night, casey came on in midfield and helped us get a foothold there, also freed up jack kennedy a bit. Philly austin to come back in who will probably be used more as an impact sub and will be perfect for that roll, Paddy cood too to come back in. We are in the best position we have been in in terms of a panel, the year we got to the semi we really only had the bear starting 15, not we have lads really pushing players for starting spots and people more than capable of coming in doing a job, john meagher (who is a brilliant addition if he can stay healthy) and kevin fahy both came on and improved our halfback line which was struggling last night. on a high after last night but theres no easy games it appears in this division so that may turn in the blink of an eye, things do look promising though
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Gael85 on January 28, 2018, 09:44:41 PM
Hopefully ye do go up as great potential in that side. Imagine ye had Colin O'Riordan  :)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 28, 2018, 09:45:39 PM
Hopefully ye do go up as great potential in that side. Imagine ye had Colin O'Riordan  :)

and peter acheson....if only
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on January 28, 2018, 09:54:14 PM
Given everything suggests the match next weekend in Semple will be a high-scoring barn burner it’s probably going to turn out to be a dour 0-12 to 0-11 slugfest.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 28, 2018, 10:04:24 PM
Given everything suggests the match next weekend in Semple will be a high-scoring barn burner it’s probably going to turn out to be a dour 0-12 to 0-11 slugfest.

you can almost be guaranteed of it!!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Gael85 on January 28, 2018, 10:14:52 PM
Hopefully ye do go up as great potential in that side. Imagine ye had Colin O'Riordan  :)

and peter acheson....if only

Is he due back?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Horse Box on January 28, 2018, 10:31:26 PM
Looking at the Tipp subs in the Programme last night , anyone of them are good enough to start , really strong Panel this year  8) !
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 28, 2018, 10:43:01 PM
Hopefully ye do go up as great potential in that side. Imagine ye had Colin O'Riordan  :)

and peter acheson....if only

Is he due back?

no
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Kurtz on January 29, 2018, 08:46:58 AM
Given everything suggests the match next weekend in Semple will be a high-scoring barn burner it’s probably going to turn out to be a dour 0-12 to 0-11 slugfest.

Roscommon dont do slugfests they are not physical enough
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 29, 2018, 10:11:23 AM
Any word on diarmuid murtaghs injury in the Meath match, worry that he'll miss game time or should he be ok? Would be a big loss


If powter and McGuire are out for a while for cork they are in big trouble.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on January 29, 2018, 04:01:39 PM
Any word on diarmuid murtaghs injury in the Meath match, worry that he'll miss game time or should he be ok? Would be a big loss


If powter and McGuire are out for a while for cork they are in big trouble.

Thigh injury apparently and it's not too bad. We have enough cover with players like Donie Smith and the Creggs that he won't be rushed back if he's not ready, though.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: theyellowbus on January 29, 2018, 05:54:24 PM
Roscommom let a win slip awful handy yesterday. we didn't  close the game out when we had the chance.Cant understand all the changes made with 15-20 mins left.
Definitely unsettled us and we lost the upper hand after that.
Meath were very poor bar the last ten minutes which makes yesterdays result all the more disappointing.
We have a problem with our goalie,full back and midfield going on yesterdays performance.We were constantly cleaned out on our own kick outs and won very little breaks around the middle. we made way too many mistakes in open play which cost us extra scores especially when we had the elements in our favour in the 2nd half.Too many misplaced passes,wrong option taken,balls slipping in possession, poor delivery into the full forward line.
After watching the Tipperary game i don't hold out much hope of beating them unless we improve ten fold.Its only January but major improvements needed.
Finbar Cregg unfortunately isn't up to the standard based on yesterdays performance and earlier FBD games.
 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on January 29, 2018, 06:07:49 PM
Roscommom let a win slip awful handy yesterday. we didn't  close the game out when we had the chance.Cant understand all the changes made with 15-20 mins left.
Definitely unsettled us and we lost the upper hand after that.
Meath were very poor bar the last ten minutes which makes yesterdays result all the more disappointing.
We have a problem with our goalie,full back and midfield going on yesterdays performance.We were constantly cleaned out on our own kick outs and won very little breaks around the middle. we made way too many mistakes in open play which cost us extra scores especially when we had the elements in our favour in the 2nd half.Too many misplaced passes,wrong option taken,balls slipping in possession, poor delivery into the full forward line.
After watching the Tipperary game i don't hold out much hope of beating them unless we improve ten fold.Its only January but major improvements needed.
Finbar Cregg unfortunately isn't up to the standard based on yesterdays performance and earlier FBD games.
 

All the FB line played really well yesterday. Probably the most settled line of the field. Strange you’d single them out.

Bar a couple wayward kick-outs Lavin did well (and saved a couple of points due to his fielding ability) and couldn’t really be blamed for many of the failures to win the ball around the middle at the end.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 29, 2018, 06:10:00 PM
Any word on diarmuid murtaghs injury in the Meath match, worry that he'll miss game time or should he be ok? Would be a big loss


If powter and McGuire are out for a while for cork they are in big trouble.

Thigh injury apparently and it's not too bad. We have enough cover with players like Donie Smith and the Creggs that he won't be rushed back if he's not ready, though.

Thats good, nobody likes see one of a teams best players sidelined long term
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 29, 2018, 06:19:12 PM
I see tipp are the slightest of favorites at 10/11 for sundays game which is near enough right, it should be a 50/50 game. Ourselves and roscommon are near enough the same in terms of underage success and achievements at senior level in recent times with roscommon maybe 2 years further down the road in terms of development. Our performance was not anywhere near as polished as people make out and are judging it off corks reputation moreso than their circumstances on saturday. We will need to improve alot in certain aspects of our play but theres a big pressure lifted now with the 1st win under our belts. I always had this game as a much bigger test than the cork one and still believe that. Hopefully we improve on week one and can keep the positive start going
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: twohands!!! on January 29, 2018, 09:20:31 PM
I see tipp are the slightest of favorites at 10/11 for sundays game which is near enough right, it should be a 50/50 game. Ourselves and roscommon are near enough the same in terms of underage success and achievements at senior level in recent times with roscommon maybe 2 years further down the road in terms of development. Our performance was not anywhere near as polished as people make out and are judging it off corks reputation moreso than their circumstances on saturday. We will need to improve alot in certain aspects of our play but theres a big pressure lifted now with the 1st win under our belts. I always had this game as a much bigger test than the cork one and still believe that. Hopefully we improve on week one and can keep the positive start going

Yeah I thought given how open Cork's defence was that the 3-16 Tipp scored fell into the respectable/decent category.

Cork still continue to be over-rated imo.
 
The only 2 teams they beat in the league last year were the two relegated teams Derry and Fermanagh.
In the championship they had 2 wins - beating Waterford by a point and Tipperary by a point.
Last week they needed an injury time goal to beat Clare in the McGrath Cup.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: macdanger2 on January 29, 2018, 10:07:20 PM
Roscommom let a win slip awful handy yesterday. we didn't  close the game out when we had the chance.Cant understand all the changes made with 15-20 mins left.
Definitely unsettled us and we lost the upper hand after that.
Meath were very poor bar the last ten minutes which makes yesterdays result all the more disappointing.
We have a problem with our goalie,full back and midfield going on yesterdays performance.We were constantly cleaned out on our own kick outs and won very little breaks around the middle. we made way too many mistakes in open play which cost us extra scores especially when we had the elements in our favour in the 2nd half.Too many misplaced passes,wrong option taken,balls slipping in possession, poor delivery into the full forward line.
After watching the Tipperary game i don't hold out much hope of beating them unless we improve ten fold.Its only January but major improvements needed.
Finbar Cregg unfortunately isn't up to the standard based on yesterdays performance and earlier FBD games.
 

The goalie looked to be badly at fault for the second goal, should definitely have done better I thought
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on January 29, 2018, 10:16:54 PM
Roscommom let a win slip awful handy yesterday. we didn't  close the game out when we had the chance.Cant understand all the changes made with 15-20 mins left.
Definitely unsettled us and we lost the upper hand after that.
Meath were very poor bar the last ten minutes which makes yesterdays result all the more disappointing.
We have a problem with our goalie,full back and midfield going on yesterdays performance.We were constantly cleaned out on our own kick outs and won very little breaks around the middle. we made way too many mistakes in open play which cost us extra scores especially when we had the elements in our favour in the 2nd half.Too many misplaced passes,wrong option taken,balls slipping in possession, poor delivery into the full forward line.
After watching the Tipperary game i don't hold out much hope of beating them unless we improve ten fold.Its only January but major improvements needed.
Finbar Cregg unfortunately isn't up to the standard based on yesterdays performance and earlier FBD games.
 

The goalie looked to be badly at fault for the second goal, should definitely have done better I thought

Looked like he tried to save it with the wrong hand, the defending by Roscommon on both Meath goals was very poor. Loads of bodies around but not a glove laid on the attackers nothing new with Roscommon defensively i suppose and i would expect McGrath,Sweeney,Quinlivan etc to cause serious damage next Sunday.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on January 29, 2018, 10:29:50 PM
Roscommom let a win slip awful handy yesterday. we didn't  close the game out when we had the chance.Cant understand all the changes made with 15-20 mins left.
Definitely unsettled us and we lost the upper hand after that.
Meath were very poor bar the last ten minutes which makes yesterdays result all the more disappointing.
We have a problem with our goalie,full back and midfield going on yesterdays performance.We were constantly cleaned out on our own kick outs and won very little breaks around the middle. we made way too many mistakes in open play which cost us extra scores especially when we had the elements in our favour in the 2nd half.Too many misplaced passes,wrong option taken,balls slipping in possession, poor delivery into the full forward line.
After watching the Tipperary game i don't hold out much hope of beating them unless we improve ten fold.Its only January but major improvements needed.
Finbar Cregg unfortunately isn't up to the standard based on yesterdays performance and earlier FBD games.
 

The goalie looked to be badly at fault for the second goal, should definitely have done better I thought

Very tough to blame the keeper for either goal.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on January 30, 2018, 10:15:19 AM
The old Ros problems of midfield and  loose defence remain unsolved.
It's basic that you don't let an opponent sail through your defence and nobody but nobody hassles, tackles or tries to impede the hoor.......
How many defenders were standing watching as Meath scored their 2nd goal?
Have we any defensive coach? Shouldn't lads who make an inter County team know about staying tight to your man and also not letting ball carriers have the freedom of the park?
Fearful for next Sunday but hopeful that the old NFL thing of good week/bad week might come into play. .....
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: theyellowbus on January 30, 2018, 10:46:07 AM
Roscommom let a win slip awful handy yesterday. we didn't  close the game out when we had the chance.Cant understand all the changes made with 15-20 mins left.
Definitely unsettled us and we lost the upper hand after that.
Meath were very poor bar the last ten minutes which makes yesterdays result all the more disappointing.
We have a problem with our goalie,full back and midfield going on yesterdays performance.We were constantly cleaned out on our own kick outs and won very little breaks around the middle. we made way too many mistakes in open play which cost us extra scores especially when we had the elements in our favour in the 2nd half.Too many misplaced passes,wrong option taken,balls slipping in possession, poor delivery into the full forward line.
After watching the Tipperary game i don't hold out much hope of beating them unless we improve ten fold.Its only January but major improvements needed.
Finbar Cregg unfortunately isn't up to the standard based on yesterdays performance and earlier FBD games.
 

All the FB line played really well yesterday. Probably the most settled line of the field. Strange you’d single them out.

Bar a couple wayward kick-outs Lavin did well (and saved a couple of points due to his fielding ability) and couldn’t really be blamed for many of the failures to win the ball around the middle at the end.
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I didn't single the whole line i meant the full back john mcmanus.Mcinereny and murray played well i thought and snuffed out a few dangerous meath attacks in the first half.Howvwer i dont think John Mc is the solution at 3 he seems too loose and can be caught out of position at times.However i think he is being pigeon holed into that position by the management as he is a good footballer at this level but just not at 3.I know Kilroy acting as an extra back helped last year in terms of protection for the full back but is it the answer??

Lavin's fielding is definitely one of his strong points as his his support out the field with the ball which was good to see. However his kick outs were only average at best although the lack of movement at times out the field didn't help.

If we can cut out the basic handling and passing errors we will do well in this Div but can we improve that much by this Sunday??
We need a quicker companion for TOR in the middle to counter act his lack of pace. Conor or Niall maybe?

Whats the story with Harney and Brian Stack at the moment? Also are we likely to see any of the glaveys contingent after the weekend?
I think young heneghan will make a great footballer at this level.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: twohands!!! on January 30, 2018, 01:56:40 PM
Some stats from the Cork Tipp game




From Eamon Myers
@arantaobhline on Twitter
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 30, 2018, 02:46:09 PM
I think the only thing you can take from them stats is goals win games and tipp better individual performances were key. Nothing stands out really, was all fairly even
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on January 30, 2018, 03:17:39 PM
I think the only thing you can take from them stats is goals win games and tipp better individual performances were key. Nothing stands out really, was all fairly even

Well yes and the big difference is the % efficiency in converting chances to scores - 61% versus 53%
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on January 30, 2018, 04:28:08 PM
Would expect wins for Tipp,Meath,Down and Cavan this weekend.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 30, 2018, 08:57:49 PM
Week 2's betting.

Cavan Louth....cant see past cavan
Down Cork....Cant call, If cork are missing powter and mcguire they will find it really tough, down its hard to judge them on the first game as its hard to know if down were good or louth were just poor, maybe a bit of both.
Tipp roscommon....50/50, could go either way
Meath Clare....Meath win


Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: ardtole on January 30, 2018, 09:09:43 PM
I see Louth are 3/1 to beat Cavan,  I think they are worth a punt at that price. They are a big physical side and they will pick up a few points along the way. Rumours from Cavan suggest it's not a very happy camp either. They had Down on the ropes midway through the second half, and only a goal somewhat against the run of play gave us a bit of breathing space.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on January 30, 2018, 09:43:25 PM
Cavan v Louth
Down v Cork
Tipp v Roscommon
Meath v Clare

I think the Rossies recent experience of being in Div 1 rubbing shoulders with the big boys week in, week out will stand by them against Tipp, who won't have such an experience. I think Clare are generous enough with those odds, but I suppose it's difficult to judge what the Cavan result means with all the rumours about Cavan. The other two games are very close, just going with a guess really.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on January 30, 2018, 09:59:53 PM
Cavan have an atrocious home record. 3/1 is a massive price on Louth.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Targetman on January 30, 2018, 10:45:45 PM
Seen Louth against us last week and they’re a poor enough side, but 1/3 is very short for Cavan
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: twohands!!! on January 31, 2018, 08:19:41 PM
Powter out for Cork for up to three months with a hamstring injury.

http://www.the42.ie/cork-sean-powter-football-3826330-Jan2018/
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on January 31, 2018, 09:12:28 PM
Powter out for Cork for up to three months with a hamstring injury.

http://www.the42.ie/cork-sean-powter-football-3826330-Jan2018/

Huge blow for them, they should stay up comfortably enough but cant see them challenging for a promotion spot
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 01, 2018, 09:38:47 PM

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on February 01, 2018, 09:54:52 PM


Nobody from Aherlow on the team. I imagine Eddie Moroney is very happy to be in D2-
Would Loughmore-Castleiney and Eire Og annacarty not be more famous for their hurlers ?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: macdanger2 on February 01, 2018, 09:57:12 PM
Strong looking Tipp team
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 01, 2018, 10:01:28 PM
loughmore are the 3rd most successful football team in tipp 3 being commercials, they are an out and out dual club. Noel and john mcgrath would be on the football panel and pushing hard for starting spots if they werent with the hurlers.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 01, 2018, 10:14:27 PM
Looks close enough to what would be the Tipp championship team.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: twohands!!! on February 01, 2018, 11:56:04 PM
Quote
1. Mark White (Clonakilty)
2. Sam Ryan (St Finbarrs)
3. Jamie O Sullivan (Bishopstown)
4. Micheal McSweeney (Newcestown)
5. Kevin Flahive (Douglas)
6. Brian O Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
7. Tom Clancy (Fermoy)
8. Ian Maguire (St Finbarrs) Captain
9. Cillian O Hanlon (Kilshannig)
10. Sean White (Clonakilty)
11. Kevin Crowley (Millstreet)
12. Ruairi Deane (Bantry Blues)
13. John O Rourke (Carbery Rangers)
14. Colm O Neill (Ballyclough)
15. Mark Collins (Castlehaven)
Subs:
16. Ryan Price (O Donovan Rossa)
17. Conor Dorman (Bishopstown)
18. Matthew Taylor (Mallow)
19. Daniel O Callaghan (Clyda Rovers)
20. Kevin O Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
21. Cian Dorgan (Ballincollig)
22. Michael Hurley (Castlehaven)
23. Peter Kelleher (Kimichael)
24. Stephen Sherlock (St Finbarrs)

No surprise to see Colm O'Neill come in - he was the only one of the Cork subs to have an impact v Tipp.
Not much of a surprise to see Conor Dorman or Daniel O Callaghan drop to the bench.

Cork only named a panel of 24 as opposed to 26 again - no idea what they are playing at.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 02, 2018, 01:39:40 PM
Looks close enough to what would be the Tipp championship team.

If that's our 15 come championship I'll be very happy. Paddy codd will be pushing to get back in the full back line, there's a couple will be doing the same for the halfback line. Midfield should be Casey and Hannigan competing for 1 spot, hopefully Casey goes well because hannigans experience come the later stages of the game will be important. Front 6 is the strongest we have for me
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: twohands!!! on February 02, 2018, 05:29:44 PM

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: twohands!!! on February 02, 2018, 05:30:35 PM

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on February 02, 2018, 05:48:02 PM
A more experienced starting Cavan side and Martin Reilly being back is a huge addition. Johnston Mackey and Gearoid on the bench gives us some options. Need to see more from Enda Flanagan and Caoimhin Reilly tomorrow. Farrelly deserves his chance, a lot of mistakes from Galligan the last day.

Our home record is shocking and McVeety said last week that Cavan have limited access to the main field in Breffni so the home advantage isn't what it should be. Needs to change this year or we'll be relegated.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on February 02, 2018, 07:20:49 PM
Ros team to be made public tonight for this vital game v Tipp.
2 points needed if we're to be in the Promotion hunt.
Will take a much improved performance to win it.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Horse Box on February 02, 2018, 10:10:51 PM
Looks close enough to what would be the Tipp championship team.

If that's our 15 come championship I'll be very happy. Paddy codd will be pushing to get back in the full back line, there's a couple will be doing the same for the halfback line. Midfield should be Casey and Hannigan competing for 1 spot, hopefully Casey goes well because hannigans experience come the later stages of the game will be important. Front 6 is the strongest we have for me

Hannigan :o , he`s been there a while now , through thick and thin but there is no way he is better than Casey . Casey can be lazy at times but has alot more ability than George !
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 02, 2018, 10:24:19 PM
Looks close enough to what would be the Tipp championship team.

If that's our 15 come championship I'll be very happy. Paddy codd will be pushing to get back in the full back line, there's a couple will be doing the same for the halfback line. Midfield should be Casey and Hannigan competing for 1 spot, hopefully Casey goes well because hannigans experience come the later stages of the game will be important. Front 6 is the strongest we have for me

Hannigan :o , he`s been there a while now , through thick and thin but there is no way he is better than Casey . Casey can be lazy at times but has alot more ability than George !

Hannigan is never a standout or someone you come away from a game saying how well he played but when you look back over it hes rarely gotten the better of and usually keeps his opposite number quiet. Theres definately a role for him
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on February 03, 2018, 01:58:28 PM




I can guarantee that this is not the team that will start.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 03, 2018, 02:18:23 PM
Big game tonight in breffni, the loser will be in big relegation trouble. Cavan wildly to short odds with bookies at 1-3. 4/6 maybe I'd say would be fair. The lads we have coming back in have very little work done.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 03, 2018, 02:59:01 PM
Ros team to be made public tonight for this vital game v Tipp.
2 points needed if we're to be in the Promotion hunt.
Will take a much improved performance to win it.

Well we made the first five players public anyways. That'll properly confuse Kearns.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 03, 2018, 08:36:55 PM
Big game tonight in breffni, the loser will be in big relegation trouble. Cavan wildly to short odds with bookies at 1-3. 4/6 maybe I'd say would be fair. The lads we have coming back in have very little work done.

Bookies were right, big win for cavan. 3-16 to 0-13. Great to see the team show some form in Breffni.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on February 03, 2018, 09:03:02 PM
Easy for Cavan tonight. Good pace in the team and looked a lot more settled than last week. Martin Reilly was excellent but Caoimhin Reilly was motm for me. His movement and pace and power tore Louth's full back line to shreds.

Gets more difficult for us from here on out and we will need to cut down on the amount of basic errors we are making if we are going to beat the stonethrowers next week.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on February 03, 2018, 10:27:45 PM
Easy for Cavan tonight. Good pace in the team and looked a lot more settled than last week. Martin Reilly was excellent but Caoimhin Reilly was motm for me. His movement and pace and power tore Louth's full back line to shreds.

Gets more difficult for us from here on out and we will need to cut down on the amount of basic errors we are making if we are going to beat the stonethrowers next week.

Mackey was excellent again.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 03, 2018, 10:34:43 PM
Ros team to be made public tonight for this vital game v Tipp.
2 points needed if we're to be in the Promotion hunt.
Will take a much improved performance to win it.

Well we made the first five players public anyways. That'll properly confuse Kearns.

There will actually be a team from ye on the programme tomorrow won't there?;)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on February 03, 2018, 10:52:42 PM
Easy for Cavan tonight. Good pace in the team and looked a lot more settled than last week. Martin Reilly was excellent but Caoimhin Reilly was motm for me. His movement and pace and power tore Louth's full back line to shreds.

Gets more difficult for us from here on out and we will need to cut down on the amount of basic errors we are making if we are going to beat the stonethrowers next week.

Mackey was excellent again.

Yeah he was, his use of the ball is a cut above anyone else. Clerkin was good too, couldn't see why McGleenan stuck with him last year but he did very well tonight. They all played well to be fair. Our lack of power is a bit of a worry though, don't have anyone physically imposing really.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 03, 2018, 11:03:32 PM
Big win for Cavan, after all the doom and gloom coming out pre league, they should at the very least be safe, promotion is on but Cavan have a really tough run of fixtures from here on out. Louth look like they are done for already, two big defeats already, will take a massive turn around to stay up now.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 04, 2018, 04:05:36 AM
Whatever about what may or may not have gone on behind the scenes pre-season, it seems McGleenan now, at least, has a panel of motivated players working together and pride in the jersey seems to be there.
Much tougher tests in the coming weeks will test the solidity of those foundations and McGleenan's credentials too, but for the moment it's good to see some green shoots poking above the ground in spring.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on February 04, 2018, 03:26:39 PM
Tipp have put 3 goals past the Rossies.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 04, 2018, 03:31:46 PM
Tipp have put 3 goals past the Rossies.

threw away two big leads. looking like will lose it now
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 04, 2018, 03:41:34 PM
That was as big time as it gets in this division, going to Tipp, probably the best team in the division, conceding three goals and being seven points and much later on six points down and winning it.

We have a load of flaws but my God can these lads play football. They don’t know when they’re beat.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on February 04, 2018, 03:43:31 PM
Tipp have put 3 goals past the Rossies.

threw away two big leads. looking like will lose it now
That is some win for the Rossies. They are probably a bit cuter/fitter than Tipp.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 04, 2018, 03:45:07 PM
Tipp have put 3 goals past the Rossies.

threw away two big leads. looking like will lose it now
That is some win for the Rossies. They are probably a bit cuter/fitter than Tipp.

Fûck all training done. Galway were at it hardcore about five weeks before we started.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Horse Box on February 04, 2018, 06:59:36 PM
Tipp have put 3 goals past the Rossies.

threw away two big leads. looking like will lose it now
That is some win for the Rossies. They are probably a bit cuter/fitter than Tipp.

Had a bit of help of the Ref who was terrible  !
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 04, 2018, 07:16:05 PM
That was as big time as it gets in this division, going to Tipp, probably the best team in the division, conceding three goals and being seven points and much later on six points down and winning it.

We have a load of flaws but my God can these lads play football. They don’t know when they’re beat.

Well done on the win, sounds like a complete roll reversal from yer game with meath where ye should have had and comfortable win, we should have done the same here. Roscommon have the easiest run in now and should get promotion from here. wide open between all the rest
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 04, 2018, 07:59:05 PM
Tipp have put 3 goals past the Rossies.

threw away two big leads. looking like will lose it now
That is some win for the Rossies. They are probably a bit cuter/fitter than Tipp.

Fûck all training done. Galway were at it hardcore about five weeks before we started.

We Can only imagine with fear the might of Ros when they actually bother to train.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: SHEEDY on February 04, 2018, 08:12:53 PM
down were terrible today and were beaten comfortably in the end by a cork team who aren't great either. mark collins the stand out performer for the rebels. down on this showing will be looking at the bottom end of the table, poor day.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on February 04, 2018, 09:24:35 PM
Encouraging that we ran up a good score today.
Confidence should be high heading to banjo country next Saturday.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on February 04, 2018, 09:43:59 PM
Encouraging that we ran up a good score today.
Confidence should be high heading to banjo country next Saturday.

Bring the stones sure.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 04, 2018, 09:54:47 PM
Encouraging that we ran up a good score today.
Confidence should be high heading to banjo country next Saturday.

Bring the stones sure.

It's a while since a Meath team showed and stones playing cavan. Maybe the grew some in last year when we were away on holidays in div1.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Avondhu star on February 05, 2018, 09:52:10 AM
Tipp have put 3 goals past the Rossies.

threw away two big leads. looking like will lose it now
That is some win for the Rossies. They are probably a bit cuter/fitter than Tipp.
McStay has a better panel than last year, a number of experienced lads have come back and the panel have bought into McStays methods. Dont forget they were one point away from a Semi Final last year even I accept that they went down badly in the replay.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 05, 2018, 01:42:35 PM
Tipp have put 3 goals past the Rossies.

threw away two big leads. looking like will lose it now
That is some win for the Rossies. They are probably a bit cuter/fitter than Tipp.
McStay has a better panel than last year, a number of experienced lads have come back and the panel have bought into McStays methods. Dont forget they were one point away from a Semi Final last year even I accept that they went down badly in the replay.

The only experienced player back who is starting is Niall Daly and he was there for part of the league last year. It's still essentially the same team that won Connacht last year, so what you said is a bit of lazy analysis. Ciaran Lennon at FF, a young lad, is the big revelation so far this season.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Tatler Jack on February 05, 2018, 03:38:11 PM
3 Dalys, 2 Creggs, 2 Lennons, and Domican have all had game time so Ros do have a stronger panel - the point made by AS
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 05, 2018, 03:53:28 PM
3 Dalys, 2 Creggs, 2 Lennons, and Domican have all had game time so Ros do have a stronger panel - the point made by AS

The less said about Cathal's contribution last weekend the better. Those lads may tell later but most are still aways behind the levels of fitness the 2017 panel members are at. Fergal Lennon was on the panel last year, by the way.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 05, 2018, 04:16:49 PM
Thought Roscommon had done sod all training so how can the players returning be miles behind the levels of fitness that last years panel have.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on February 05, 2018, 04:27:34 PM
Tipp have put 3 goals past the Rossies.

threw away two big leads. looking like will lose it now
That is some win for the Rossies. They are probably a bit cuter/fitter than Tipp.
McStay has a better panel than last year, a number of experienced lads have come back and the panel have bought into McStays methods. Dont forget they were one point away from a Semi Final last year even I accept that they went down badly in the replay.

The only experienced player back who is starting is Niall Daly and he was there for part of the league last year. It's still essentially the same team that won Connacht last year, so what you said is a bit of lazy analysis. Ciaran Lennon at FF, a young lad, is the big revelation so far this season.

Open to correction but Round 1 v Tyrone and one half? The CF team conceded no goals whats your view on the last two games conceding 5 goals against teams arguably not as good as Galway?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 05, 2018, 04:30:16 PM
Thought Roscommon had done sod all training so how can the players returning be miles behind the levels of fitness that last years panel have.

That is a conundrum. Perhaps the players coming back were eating breakfast rolls all winter?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: manfromdelmonte on February 05, 2018, 04:42:21 PM
Tipp have put 3 goals past the Rossies.

threw away two big leads. looking like will lose it now
That is some win for the Rossies. They are probably a bit cuter/fitter than Tipp.
McStay has a better panel than last year, a number of experienced lads have come back and the panel have bought into McStays methods. Dont forget they were one point away from a Semi Final last year even I accept that they went down badly in the replay.

The only experienced player back who is starting is Niall Daly and he was there for part of the league last year. It's still essentially the same team that won Connacht last year, so what you said is a bit of lazy analysis. Ciaran Lennon at FF, a young lad, is the big revelation so far this season.

Open to correction but Round 1 v Tyrone and one half? The CF team conceded no goals whats your view on the last two games conceding 5 goals against teams arguably not as good as Galway?
conceding 5 goals and not losing is some going

I'd say the defence will tighten up once the lads out the field get more comfortable with the ball and cut out turnovers, they might follow their players more and block/stop overlaps
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 05, 2018, 04:52:03 PM
2 games in reasonably happy, played the 2 favorites for promotion, won one and had the other game dead and buried only for us to hand the game to roscommon inexcusably. Ill be surprised if we dont get at the very least 4 points from our next two games, wouldnt rule out 6 but yesterday shows not to take anything for granted.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on February 05, 2018, 05:14:01 PM
2 games in reasonably happy, played the 2 favorites for promotion, won one and had the other game dead and buried only for us to hand the game to roscommon inexcusably. Ill be surprised if we dont get at the very least 4 points from our next two games, wouldnt rule out 6 but yesterday shows not to take anything for granted.

You would need to be keeping the ball on the ground a bit more to be getting 6 points from your next two games. The soccer lads will blow it up for touching it with your hands.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 05, 2018, 05:21:01 PM
Thought Roscommon had done sod all training so how can the players returning be miles behind the levels of fitness that last years panel have.

Is there only two levels of fitness in Galway or have you missed the nuance of what was said? I'd never suggest you'd do so intentionally, either.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 05, 2018, 05:35:13 PM
2 games in reasonably happy, played the 2 favorites for promotion, won one and had the other game dead and buried only for us to hand the game to roscommon inexcusably. Ill be surprised if we dont get at the very least 4 points from our next two games, wouldnt rule out 6 but yesterday shows not to take anything for granted.

You would need to be keeping the ball on the ground a bit more to be getting 6 points from your next two games. The soccer lads will blow it up for touching it with your hands.

I ment 4 from our next 3 games
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 05, 2018, 05:38:53 PM
2 games in reasonably happy, played the 2 favorites for promotion, won one and had the other game dead and buried only for us to hand the game to roscommon inexcusably. Ill be surprised if we dont get at the very least 4 points from our next two games, would'nt rule out 6 but yesterday shows not to take anything for granted.

It rare to score two goals from penalties in game. TBH i would have thought Tipp would have more than just 1-5 from play against Roscommon defence thats wasn't looking too hot against Meath.

Tipp v Meath in round 4 is a very interesting game and probably a decider on who may gain promotion
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 05, 2018, 05:47:19 PM
2 games in reasonably happy, played the 2 favorites for promotion, won one and had the other game dead and buried only for us to hand the game to roscommon inexcusably. Ill be surprised if we dont get at the very least 4 points from our next two games, would'nt rule out 6 but yesterday shows not to take anything for granted.

It rare to score two goals from penalties in game. TBH i would have thought Tipp would have more than just 1-5 from play against Roscommon defence thats wasn't looking too hot against Meath.

Tipp v Meath in round 4 is a very interesting game and probably a decider on who may gain promotion

Wouldnt read too much into that, you look at quinlivan and he only scored 1 goal in the game but was fouled for 1-3 or so of our score too where scores from play probably would have come. 

Meaths next 3 games are cavan, tipp and cork....them 3 games should decide their finishing spot in the table.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Smurfy123 on February 05, 2018, 06:41:54 PM
Lads after 2 games predict the final league table
Roscommon
Cork
Tipp
Meath
Down
Cavan
Clare
Louth
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on February 05, 2018, 06:55:03 PM
Meath
Roscommon
Cork
Tipp
Down
Cavan
Clare
Louth

I'd also fancy Meath to take the Rossies in the League Final. I think they've done their time in Division 2 and they'll power up to Division 1 now.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: thejuice on February 05, 2018, 08:13:19 PM
2 games in reasonably happy, played the 2 favorites for promotion, won one and had the other game dead and buried only for us to hand the game to roscommon inexcusably. Ill be surprised if we dont get at the very least 4 points from our next two games, would'nt rule out 6 but yesterday shows not to take anything for granted.

It rare to score two goals from penalties in game. TBH i would have thought Tipp would have more than just 1-5 from play against Roscommon defence thats wasn't looking too hot against Meath.

Tipp v Meath in round 4 is a very interesting game and probably a decider on who may gain promotion

Wouldnt read too much into that, you look at quinlivan and he only scored 1 goal in the game but was fouled for 1-3 or so of our score too where scores from play probably would have come. 

Meaths next 3 games are cavan, tipp and cork....them 3 games should decide their finishing spot in the table.

We also have the postponed O’Byrne Cup final in between Cavan and Tipp games so depends on what team Andy puts out we’ll have had 6 competitive games in as many weeks.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 06, 2018, 04:14:21 PM
Another great goal from Quinlivan and some great points taken from Donie Smith, there's not many who can kick from longer distances from him. Tipp's 2nd pen looked a bit soft.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on February 07, 2018, 10:24:22 PM
Meath
Roscommon
Cork
Tipp
Down
Cavan
Clare
Louth

I'd also fancy Meath to take the Rossies in the League Final. I think they've done their time in Division 2 and they'll power up to Division 1 now.

Promotion will do us, we'll let the Rossies have the cup.
Just like in 2005, when Mark Ward fisted the ball into our own net in injury-time just to keep the children of Monaghan interested in football.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 08, 2018, 09:31:15 PM



Same team named to play Clare
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 08, 2018, 10:02:36 PM
Interesting that Tipp have names the same team but we’ve made four changes (also keeping Donie on the bench it should be noted). Clearly McStay isn’t happy that a superhero act was needed to get the points again last week.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on February 08, 2018, 10:14:52 PM
Interesting.
Good to see young McKeon getting a start. A serious footballer.
Must be the youngest FF line in the Country?
Will Fergal Lennon be the answer for the problem CHB position??
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 09, 2018, 12:46:14 AM
Interesting.
Good to see young McKeon getting a start. A serious footballer.
Must be the youngest FF line in the Country?
Will Fergal Lennon be the answer for the problem CHB position??

Cathal Cregg not on the Roscommon 26 again, is a man that works in the fitness business told to go away until he gets himself fit?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 09, 2018, 01:42:15 AM
Interesting.
Good to see young McKeon getting a start. A serious footballer.
Must be the youngest FF line in the Country?
Will Fergal Lennon be the answer for the problem CHB position??

Cathal Cregg not on the Roscommon 26 again, is a man that works in the fitness business told to go away until he gets himself fit?

Competition for places is serious. You can be fit as an ox and still not be at the required level of sharpness. Cathal only got back from his honeymoon midway through the FBD so he's weeks behind even the other returning players. Fintan Cregg's is much more noticeable, as it happens.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: AZOffaly on February 09, 2018, 08:16:19 AM
Are Oxen that fit? 😀
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Shamrock Shore on February 09, 2018, 09:46:10 AM
Eh - AZ. Are you not trespassing like?

At least I can say I am in here testing out the ground for 2019  :-*
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: AZOffaly on February 09, 2018, 10:09:12 AM
Eh - AZ. Are you not trespassing like?

At least I can say I am in here testing out the ground for 2019  :-*

I took a wrong turn. I thought this was the Division 4 thread.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 09, 2018, 10:57:19 AM
Interesting.
Good to see young McKeon getting a start. A serious footballer.
Must be the youngest FF line in the Country?
Will Fergal Lennon be the answer for the problem CHB position??

Cathal Cregg not on the Roscommon 26 again, is a man that works in the fitness business told to go away until he gets himself fit?

Competition for places is serious. You can be fit as an ox and still not be at the required level of sharpness. Cathal only got back from his honeymoon midway through the FBD so he's weeks behind even the other returning players. Fintan Cregg's is much more noticeable, as it happens.

You're a mighty man to build yourself up for the big fall.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on February 09, 2018, 01:18:39 PM
Eh - AZ. Are you not trespassing like?

At least I can say I am in here testing out the ground for 2019  :-*

I took a wrong turn. I thought this was the Division 4 thread.


Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 09, 2018, 05:05:33 PM
Interesting.
Good to see young McKeon getting a start. A serious footballer.
Must be the youngest FF line in the Country?
Will Fergal Lennon be the answer for the problem CHB position??

Cathal Cregg not on the Roscommon 26 again, is a man that works in the fitness business told to go away until he gets himself fit?

Competition for places is serious. You can be fit as an ox and still not be at the required level of sharpness. Cathal only got back from his honeymoon midway through the FBD so he's weeks behind even the other returning players. Fintan Cregg's is much more noticeable, as it happens.

You're a mighty man to build yourself up for the big fall.

Eh? Anyone who takes a look at the lads on our bench could tell you it's hard to make the 26, particularly as a forward. This week Donie Smith, Ciarain Murtagh and Ultan Harney are on the bench, with the two Creggs not on the 26 at all. Any good midfielder could make the team nearly instantly, however.

Try not to read too much subtext into posts, Itchy.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 09, 2018, 06:10:30 PM
Interesting.
Good to see young McKeon getting a start. A serious footballer.
Must be the youngest FF line in the Country?
Will Fergal Lennon be the answer for the problem CHB position??

Cathal Cregg not on the Roscommon 26 again, is a man that works in the fitness business told to go away until he gets himself fit?

Competition for places is serious. You can be fit as an ox and still not be at the required level of sharpness. Cathal only got back from his honeymoon midway through the FBD so he's weeks behind even the other returning players. Fintan Cregg's is much more noticeable, as it happens.

You're a mighty man to build yourself up for the big fall.

Eh? Anyone who takes a look at the lads on our bench could tell you it's hard to make the 26, particularly as a forward. This week Donie Smith, Ciarain Murtagh and Ultan Harney are on the bench, with the two Creggs not on the 26 at all. Any good midfielder could make the team nearly instantly, however.

Try not to read too much subtext into posts, Itchy.

Ferocious competition for places, even stars like the creggs can't get on the panel yet they have feck all training done. Do you ever the absolute crap you write on here??
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 09, 2018, 06:29:19 PM
Interesting.
Good to see young McKeon getting a start. A serious footballer.
Must be the youngest FF line in the Country?
Will Fergal Lennon be the answer for the problem CHB position??

Cathal Cregg not on the Roscommon 26 again, is a man that works in the fitness business told to go away until he gets himself fit?

Competition for places is serious. You can be fit as an ox and still not be at the required level of sharpness. Cathal only got back from his honeymoon midway through the FBD so he's weeks behind even the other returning players. Fintan Cregg's is much more noticeable, as it happens.

You're a mighty man to build yourself up for the big fall.

Eh? Anyone who takes a look at the lads on our bench could tell you it's hard to make the 26, particularly as a forward. This week Donie Smith, Ciarain Murtagh and Ultan Harney are on the bench, with the two Creggs not on the 26 at all. Any good midfielder could make the team nearly instantly, however.

Try not to read too much subtext into posts, Itchy.

Ferocious competition for places, even stars like the creggs can't get on the panel yet they have feck all training done. Do you ever the absolute crap you write on here??

What?

Fintan Cregg has been on the panel the last two years without fail. If you’re trying to be a jàckass you’d want to get your facts straight first.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Orchard park on February 09, 2018, 09:11:51 PM
Interesting that Tipp have names the same team but we’ve made four changes (also keeping Donie on the bench it should be noted). Clearly McStay isn’t happy that a superhero act was needed to get the points again last week.

Didnt have much choice  in one anyways given he will likely miss rest of the league.  He badly needs to see If the young sub keeper can step up as Lavin is at best flaky.....
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on February 09, 2018, 09:15:32 PM
Ultan  Harney named in the 26 for Sunday.
Hope he gets a decent injury free run till we see what he can do at Inter County over a sustained period.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on February 10, 2018, 06:03:24 PM
Breffni Park failed a pitch inspection.
Game postponed till tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 10, 2018, 06:04:41 PM
Breffni Park failed a pitch inspection.
Game postponed till tomorrow.

Ah shite, I was looking forward to seeing both these teams
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 10, 2018, 06:26:35 PM
Breffni Park failed a pitch inspection.
Game postponed till tomorrow.

I can't see it being playable tomorrow with the forecast for tonight. Inspection at 9am.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Aaron Boone on February 10, 2018, 06:38:12 PM
Breffni Park failed a pitch inspection.
Game postponed till tomorrow.

I can't see it being playable tomorrow with the forecast for tonight. Inspection at 9am.

Good flexibility shown to try again 2moro.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: twohands!!! on February 10, 2018, 06:53:51 PM
Breffni Park failed a pitch inspection.
Game postponed till tomorrow.

I can't see it being playable tomorrow with the forecast for tonight. Inspection at 9am.

Official statement says "provisionally" refixed so I said they're just hoping it goes ahead.

Meath already have the O'Byrne Cup final still to play.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 10, 2018, 07:02:50 PM
Breffni Park failed a pitch inspection.
Game postponed till tomorrow.

I can't see it being playable tomorrow with the forecast for tonight. Inspection at 9am.

Good flexibility shown to try again 2moro.

We can't wait to give them the bating they deserve.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 11, 2018, 09:11:56 AM
Good bit of snow around tipp, id say there'll be a good few postponements today
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: southtyronegael on February 11, 2018, 09:37:32 AM
cavan/meath and sligo/fermanagh off.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on February 11, 2018, 10:12:39 AM
Pitch inspection at 11 for the Hyde.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 11, 2018, 10:15:59 AM
Same in ennis
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Horse Box on February 11, 2018, 10:33:35 AM
Same in ennis

Clare v Tipp is on !
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 11, 2018, 11:19:57 AM
So I assume cavan Meath will be next weekend and o Byrne cup final postponed until December?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on February 11, 2018, 12:19:24 PM
We should be given the points.
This would never have happened in Navan.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 11, 2018, 12:34:19 PM
We should be given the points.
This would never have happened in Navan.

Lol. I see many of your supporters on Twitter think that alright. The way some clowns go on you would think every gaa should be able to survive anything mother nature sends it's way. There was serious rain yesterday and snow on top last night. The whole country is flooded.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 11, 2018, 12:59:48 PM
So I assume cavan Meath will be next weekend and o Byrne cup final postponed until December?

Sigerson next weekend, either teams have players involved in that?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 11, 2018, 02:01:06 PM
So I assume cavan Meath will be next weekend and o Byrne cup final postponed until December?

Sigerson next weekend, either teams have players involved in that?

Cavan have a few anyway.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 11, 2018, 02:28:58 PM
There must be a mistake on the score board in the Hyde. What I'm hearing is just not possible.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on February 11, 2018, 02:39:24 PM
There must be a mistake on the score board in the Hyde. What I'm hearing is just not possible.

Still plenty of time left, but I'm in a similar state of shock.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on February 11, 2018, 02:41:41 PM
I take it the Rossies were playing against a very strong breeze in that 1st half?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 11, 2018, 02:43:04 PM
I take it the Rossies were playing against a very strong breeze in that 1st half?

I heard all the snow was piled up in front of the Roscommon goal.

Roscommon down to 14 men since 15th minute too
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on February 11, 2018, 02:45:04 PM
Clare 0-5 Tipperary 0-7
Come on Clare, get stuck into them.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 11, 2018, 03:41:14 PM
Clare Tipp finish 11 points each.

Seismic shock in the Hyde as Down hand Ros a side 12 points to 7 defeat. But then Ros have no training done so was expected I suppose.

Cork comfortable enough winners against Louth.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Kurtz on February 11, 2018, 03:44:19 PM
I take it the Rossies were playing against a very strong breeze in that 1st half?

No, Rossies just have Div 3 defence and no midfield  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on February 11, 2018, 04:58:12 PM
I thought Down were hopeless and devoid of a chance in fortress the Hyde.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: twohands!!! on February 11, 2018, 05:25:37 PM
I thought Down were hopeless and devoid of a chance in fortress the Hyde.

Down are at their most dangerous when they have "no chance"
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on February 11, 2018, 06:31:22 PM
Tipp and Ros slipped up today.
Both teams would have had those points already in the bank.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 11, 2018, 06:44:13 PM
Tipp and Ros slipped up today.
Both teams would have had those points already in the bank.

Us more than Tipp. But then this is exactly par for the course for D2. Only Louth don’t have promotion in their own hands heading into the back half of the campaign.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 11, 2018, 06:50:33 PM
Tipp and Ros slipped up today.
Both teams would have had those points already in the bank.

Us more than Tipp. But then this is exactly par for the course for D2. Only Louth don’t have promotion in their own hands heading into the back half of the campaign.

Your right there. Div 2 is very difficult to predict who will win any game. That's why I don't understand the ridiculous arrogance you often come out with here.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on February 11, 2018, 07:09:02 PM
Tipp and Ros slipped up today.
Both teams would have had those points already in the bank.

Us more than Tipp. But then this is exactly par for the course for D2. Only Louth don’t have promotion in their own hands heading into the back half of the campaign.
Ros didn't slip.up. Down have eternal class. They can play when lesser teams think they will beat them.
If Down got a decent team together they could win Sam at the first go. Very few counties can do that.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: SHEEDY on February 11, 2018, 08:11:27 PM
Tipp and Ros slipped up today.
Both teams would have had those points already in the bank.

Us more than Tipp. But then this is exactly par for the course for D2. Only Louth don’t have promotion in their own hands heading into the back half of the campaign.
Ros didn't slip.up. Down have eternal class. They can play when lesser teams think they will beat them.
If Down got a decent team together they could win Sam at the first go. Very few counties can do that.
and we could just as easy lose at home to clare the next day out.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Orchard park on February 11, 2018, 08:45:08 PM
Down well deserved their win today. A wide open division with ajynif u teams capable of promotion and relegation still
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on February 11, 2018, 08:50:32 PM
I take it the Rossies were playing against a very strong breeze in that 1st half?

No, Rossies just have Div 3 defence and no midfield  ;D
Defence was alright today in the main.
Midfield  -hadn't any and forwards were appalling.
Hope our cool clean hero puts his thinking cap on as we seem without direction or game plan.
We keep our best forward on the bench for most of the game and don't give our second best forward any break at all despite Sigerson  etc.

Then again it's only February and sure all will be grand come Summer.
Says so in the TYP.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 11, 2018, 08:51:39 PM
I take it the Rossies were playing against a very strong breeze in that 1st half?

No, Rossies just have Div 3 defence and no midfield  ;D
Defence was alright today in the main.
Midfield  -hadn't any and forwards were appalling.
Hope our cool clean hero puts his thinking cap on as we seem without direction or game plan.
We keep our best forward on the bench for most of the game and don't give our second best forward any break at all despite Sigerson  etc.

Then again it's only February and sure all will be grand come Summer.
Says so in the TYP.

Better keep sharpening the knife in case it’s needed, lad.

You must be the only man on Earth who thinks Donie is better than Diarmuid too.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on February 11, 2018, 08:54:53 PM
Today seems to have quietened you down a bit buicín.
Hardly a peep out if you on s-s. ;)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on February 11, 2018, 09:22:11 PM
If Ros had won they'd be out in front on 5 points. 3 is still not bad  but they need to be careful the next few days.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 11, 2018, 09:46:47 PM
Is Sigerson next weekend Saturday, Sunday or both. Could county teams insist on their players being available instead of for sigerson? Could get messy if cavan v Meath is scheduled for then. But what's the alternative? Play game on a Wednesday night?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 11, 2018, 09:48:46 PM
Is Sigerson next weekend Saturday, Sunday or both. Could county teams insist on their players being available instead of for sigerson? Could get messy if cavan v Meath is scheduled for then. But what's the alternative? Play game on a Wednesday night?

Sig-sig semis are on Wednesday afternoon.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on February 11, 2018, 09:53:38 PM
Sigerson Schmigerson.
We'll fulfill this fixture when it suits US and if Cavan are worried about missing some of their college nerds, they should have thought of that before their pitch flooded.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Orchard park on February 11, 2018, 10:00:47 PM
I take it the Rossies were playing against a very strong breeze in that 1st half?

No, Rossies just have Div 3 defence and no midfield  ;D
Defence was alright today in the main.
Midfield  -hadn't any and forwards were appalling.
Hope our cool clean hero puts his thinking cap on as we seem without direction or game plan.
We keep our best forward on the bench for most of the game and don't give our second best forward any break at all despite Sigerson  etc.

Then again it's only February and sure all will be grand come Summer.
Says so in the TYP.

Better keep sharpening the knife in case it’s needed, lad.

You must be the only man on Earth who thinks Donie is better than Diarmuid too.

This week he certainly was the sharper option but not used in time. Should have been there to the peno.  Christ Ciarans effort's like an u12 it was so weak.......   need midfielders badly and shape on how to defend line Paddy Tally has added to Galway.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 11, 2018, 10:07:27 PM
Sigerson Schmigerson.
We'll fulfill this fixture when it suits US and if Cavan are worried about missing some of their college nerds, they should have thought of that before their pitch flooded.

It's alright for you coming from a county full of thick f**kers that never go to college.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: LooseCannon on February 11, 2018, 10:24:37 PM
Sigerson Schmigerson.
We'll fulfill this fixture when it suits US and if Cavan are worried about missing some of their college nerds, they should have thought of that before their pitch flooded.

It's alright for you coming from a county full of thick f**kers that never go to college.

Leave the Meath boys alone.

You are from Cavan
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 11, 2018, 10:31:06 PM
Sigerson Schmigerson.
We'll fulfill this fixture when it suits US and if Cavan are worried about missing some of their college nerds, they should have thought of that before their pitch flooded.

It's alright for you coming from a county full of thick f**kers that never go to college.

Leave the Meath boys alone.

You are from Cavan

Should you not be in the Vauxhall conference thread??
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on February 12, 2018, 02:04:42 AM
I take it the Rossies were playing against a very strong breeze in that 1st half?

No, Rossies just have Div 3 defence and no midfield  ;D
Defence was alright today in the main.
Midfield  -hadn't any and forwards were appalling.
Hope our cool clean hero puts his thinking cap on as we seem without direction or game plan.
We keep our best forward on the bench for most of the game and don't give our second best forward any break at all despite Sigerson  etc.

Then again it's only February and sure all will be grand come Summer.
Says so in the TYP.

Better keep sharpening the knife in case it’s needed, lad.

You must be the only man on Earth who thinks Donie is better than Diarmuid too.

This week he certainly was the sharper option but not used in time. Should have been there to the peno.  Christ Ciarans effort's like an u12 it was so weak.......   need midfielders badly and shape on how to defend line Paddy Tally has added to Galway.
3 bad games in s row.
Got out of jail in 2 of them thanks to loose defending by the opposition.
Reality hit us today.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 12, 2018, 10:46:43 AM
See you soon folks.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on February 12, 2018, 06:04:33 PM
Meath vs. Cavan refixed for Sunday at 2pm in Breffni Park.
This is really messing up our O'Byrne Cup final preparations.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 12, 2018, 06:26:27 PM
Meath vs. Cavan refixed for Sunday at 2pm in Breffni Park.
This is really messing up our O'Byrne Cup final preparations.
Any refixed date for O Byrne cup final?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on February 12, 2018, 06:38:05 PM
11th March I believe.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on February 12, 2018, 07:19:11 PM
2019.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 13, 2018, 07:08:16 PM
Crazy division, tipp clare was probably the worst standard of a game youll see in the division all year. Theres no point predicting anything, im expecting louth to spring a surpise one weekend coming up, hopefully not on us. Looks like it will be one of them mad final days where teams can still either get promoted or relegated depending on results
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 13, 2018, 07:09:54 PM
Crazy division, tipp clare was probably the worst standard of a game youll see in the division all year. Theres no point predicting anything, im expecting louth to spring a surpise one weekend coming up, hopefully not on us. Looks like it will be one of them mad final days where teams can still either get promoted or relegated depending on results

The weather improving should suit the footballing teams in the division..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on February 13, 2018, 08:11:05 PM
Crazy division, tipp clare was probably the worst standard of a game youll see in the division all year. Theres no point predicting anything, im expecting louth to spring a surpise one weekend coming up, hopefully not on us. Looks like it will be one of them mad final days where teams can still either get promoted or relegated depending on results

Going by the highlights Clare looked the better side and could have scored a few goals. Tipp at the moment by the looks of it have a midfield that doesn't seem to working hard enough off the ball and have a very loose marking defence.

Div 2 very much a group of inconsistent teams.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Horse Box on February 13, 2018, 09:15:09 PM
Crazy division, tipp clare was probably the worst standard of a game youll see in the division all year. Theres no point predicting anything, im expecting louth to spring a surpise one weekend coming up, hopefully not on us. Looks like it will be one of them mad final days where teams can still either get promoted or relegated depending on results

Going by the highlights Clare looked the better side and could have scored a few goals. Tipp at the moment by the looks of it have a midfield that doesn't seem to working hard enough off the ball and have a very loose marking defence.

Div 2 very much a group of inconsistent teams.

Considering Tipp have added Pascal Kelleghan as Coach and he likes to set up with a solid Defence that breaks at pace with the ball !
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on February 13, 2018, 10:32:07 PM
Crazy division, tipp clare was probably the worst standard of a game youll see in the division all year. Theres no point predicting anything, im expecting louth to spring a surpise one weekend coming up, hopefully not on us. Looks like it will be one of them mad final days where teams can still either get promoted or relegated depending on results

Welcome to Division 2, baby.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tonto1888 on February 13, 2018, 10:42:15 PM
Crazy division, tipp clare was probably the worst standard of a game youll see in the division all year. Theres no point predicting anything, im expecting louth to spring a surpise one weekend coming up, hopefully not on us. Looks like it will be one of them mad final days where teams can still either get promoted or relegated depending on results

The weather improving should suit the footballing teams in the division..

Which teams would they be? Down? Meath? Roscommon?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 13, 2018, 10:45:16 PM
Crazy division, tipp clare was probably the worst standard of a game youll see in the division all year. Theres no point predicting anything, im expecting louth to spring a surpise one weekend coming up, hopefully not on us. Looks like it will be one of them mad final days where teams can still either get promoted or relegated depending on results

The weather improving should suit the footballing teams in the division..

Which teams would they be? Down? Meath? Roscommon?

Tipp, Ros, Cork and Clare. In that order.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 13, 2018, 11:43:19 PM
Crazy division, tipp clare was probably the worst standard of a game youll see in the division all year. Theres no point predicting anything, im expecting louth to spring a surpise one weekend coming up, hopefully not on us. Looks like it will be one of them mad final days where teams can still either get promoted or relegated depending on results

The weather improving should suit the footballing teams in the division..

Which teams would they be? Down? Meath? Roscommon?

Tipp, Ros, Cork and Clare. In that order.

Ah come on Syf, you wanted to put Ros 1st but just stuck Tipp in there to hide the bias. Now Clare are very poor on a big open pitch away from Ennis so not sure why they make your cut. Anyway once Ros start training and the weather gets better and they put in the right studs the mighty Sheep Stealers will not be stopped.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 14, 2018, 12:53:14 AM
Crazy division, tipp clare was probably the worst standard of a game youll see in the division all year. Theres no point predicting anything, im expecting louth to spring a surpise one weekend coming up, hopefully not on us. Looks like it will be one of them mad final days where teams can still either get promoted or relegated depending on results

The weather improving should suit the footballing teams in the division..

Which teams would they be? Down? Meath? Roscommon?

Tipp, Ros, Cork and Clare. In that order.

Ah come on Syf, you wanted to put Ros 1st but just stuck Tipp in there to hide the bias. Now Clare are very poor on a big open pitch away from Ennis so not sure why they make your cut. Anyway once Ros start training and the weather gets better and they put in the right studs the mighty Sheep Stealers will not be stopped.

You’re probably right about when we start training in fairness.

Clare because they can attack but not defend, just like the other three.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 18, 2018, 04:29:40 PM
Looks like cavan in disarray and all the doom and gloom pre league wasnt justified. Very good win today and in the driving seat for promotion now. Meath have a real task on their hands now if they are to get out of division 2. Every game is massive next weekend but in particular cork Cavan and tipp meath
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on February 18, 2018, 04:38:09 PM
Looks like cavan in disarray and all the doom and gloom pre league wasnt justified. Very good win today and in the driving seat for promotion now. Meath have a real task on their hands now if they are to get out of division 2. Every game is massive next weekend but in particular cork Cavan and tipp meath

3 points between 1st and 7th, all to play for.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on February 18, 2018, 05:13:52 PM
Meath still have a soft centre.

Cavan are decent, division 1 experience is standing to them. Caoimhin Reilly looks like the inside forward we've been crying out for. Still some weak links in the side but in general it's a very positive start. Mattie is playing a blinder with the hand he's been dealt.

Shout out to the young lad from Meath, arrested for throwing a bottle onto the field.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on February 18, 2018, 06:53:21 PM
We demand his release immediately.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 18, 2018, 07:44:08 PM
Meath still have a soft centre.

Cavan are decent, division 1 experience is standing to them. Caoimhin Reilly looks like the inside forward we've been crying out for. Still some weak links in the side but in general it's a very positive start. Mattie is playing a blinder with the hand he's been dealt.

Shout out to the young lad from Meath, arrested for throwing a bottle onto the field.

If you can't win throw something - Meath motto.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on February 18, 2018, 07:53:49 PM
I see Monaghan beat Kerry as well.
Obviously wasn't a day for football.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on February 18, 2018, 08:08:50 PM
If it was a day for darts I don't think you'd have had much luck either going by the effort of the bandit in the stands, landed the bottle about 5 yards wide of the mark.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 19, 2018, 12:05:47 AM
Meath fans does the walk of shame...

https://twitter.com/weareulster/status/965296451004911617
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: armaghniac on February 19, 2018, 12:52:07 AM
I see Monaghan beat Kerry as well.
Obviously wasn't a day for football.

Lá na droimníni.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 19, 2018, 02:33:42 AM
If you can't win throw something - Meath motto.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: joemamas on February 19, 2018, 03:08:13 AM
If you can't win throw something - Meath motto.

 ;D ;D ;D

If the bottle was full, a few Cavan supporters might have hopped the fence to retrieve.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Shamrock Shore on February 19, 2018, 09:05:50 AM
Meath lad obviously going back to the traditional endeavour of throwing things at Cavan people.

Kells used to be like Beirut back in the 50s for Cavan people coming to and from Croke Park
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on February 19, 2018, 09:09:17 AM
Build the wall.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Hardy on February 19, 2018, 09:30:03 AM
Who's going to pay for the wall? This is Cavan we're talking aout.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: FermGael on February 19, 2018, 09:45:01 AM
We will foot the cost of our side. 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 19, 2018, 09:52:42 AM
We will foot the cost of our side.

We built a bridge in Belturbet to let ye back in. We should have left it blown up!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Shamrock Shore on February 19, 2018, 09:57:00 AM
Ah - we like Cavan people. Would be hard to get the our side of the wall costs through Longford County Council.

Monaghan, on the other hand, would prob have a unanimous vote.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 19, 2018, 10:01:33 AM
Kildare will fund the wall so just we never have to look at Seanie Johnson again.

We're quite good at building walls too..

http://www.thejournal.ie/great-wall-of-dunnes-newbridge-3-3806484-Jan2018/ (http://www.thejournal.ie/great-wall-of-dunnes-newbridge-3-3806484-Jan2018/)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on February 19, 2018, 11:04:36 AM
We abandoned plans to build a wall on the Kildare border after a brief feasibility study.


Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 19, 2018, 11:43:21 AM
Ah - we like Cavan people. Would be hard to get the our side of the wall costs through Longford County Council.

Monaghan, on the other hand, would prob have a unanimous vote.

You'd have to pile drive in North Longford to get anything solid to build it on!

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: FermGael on February 19, 2018, 12:37:30 PM
We will foot the cost of our side.

We built a bridge in Belturbet to let ye back in. We should have left it blown up!
Thank god for the bypass
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on February 19, 2018, 07:59:56 PM
Few interesting ties coming up this weekend. I reckon that Tipp will beat Meath, Cork will have too much at home for Cavan, Roscommon will give Louth a decent beating, and hopefully Down will overcome Clare. It's a very tight division, with one slip up even at this stage meaning you could go from the promotion hunting places to fending off relegation. Having said that, I think that if Clare lose then it's curtains for them with Cork and Roscommon coming after.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Horse Box on February 19, 2018, 09:34:16 PM
Few interesting ties coming up this weekend. I reckon that Tipp will beat Meath, Cork will have too much at home for Cavan, Roscommon will give Louth a decent beating, and hopefully Down will overcome Clare. It's a very tight division, with one slip up even at this stage meaning you could go from the promotion hunting places to fending off relegation. Having said that, I think that if Clare lose then it's curtains for them with Cork and Roscommon coming after.

Really tighten things up at the top if this is the case . Fancy Tipp in Thurles will do the job , Cork and Cavan will be close , You`re right about Clare , reckon they`ll be gone if they lose on Sunday ,!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on February 19, 2018, 10:51:45 PM
Few interesting ties coming up this weekend. I reckon that Tipp will beat Meath, Cork will have too much at home for Cavan, Roscommon will give Louth a decent beating, and hopefully Down will overcome Clare. It's a very tight division, with one slip up even at this stage meaning you could go from the promotion hunting places to fending off relegation. Having said that, I think that if Clare lose then it's curtains for them with Cork and Roscommon coming after.
Its not so long ago that Clare knocked Roscommon out of the championship and going by the rossies last league performance it will hardly be a big knock if Clare were to beat them again.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on February 19, 2018, 11:27:33 PM
Few interesting ties coming up this weekend. I reckon that Tipp will beat Meath, Cork will have too much at home for Cavan, Roscommon will give Louth a decent beating, and hopefully Down will overcome Clare. It's a very tight division, with one slip up even at this stage meaning you could go from the promotion hunting places to fending off relegation. Having said that, I think that if Clare lose then it's curtains for them with Cork and Roscommon coming after.
Its not so long ago that Clare knocked Roscommon out of the championship and going by the rossies last league performance it will hardly be a big knock if Clare were to beat them again.

You're right, Roscommon are inconsistent and Clare can spring a result, but I don't think Roscommon will slip up this year against them. Only time will tell!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 20, 2018, 12:37:25 AM
Few interesting ties coming up this weekend. I reckon that Tipp will beat Meath, Cork will have too much at home for Cavan, Roscommon will give Louth a decent beating, and hopefully Down will overcome Clare. It's a very tight division, with one slip up even at this stage meaning you could go from the promotion hunting places to fending off relegation. Having said that, I think that if Clare lose then it's curtains for them with Cork and Roscommon coming after.
Its not so long ago that Clare knocked Roscommon out of the championship and going by the rossies last league performance it will hardly be a big knock if Clare were to beat them again.

It would be incredibly hard to imagine us turning up to Ennis in the state of mind we did in the championship match you referred to. It will probably be harder for Clare to win this match than it was the championship one, to say the least.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on February 20, 2018, 12:57:36 AM
Few interesting ties coming up this weekend. I reckon that Tipp will beat Meath, Cork will have too much at home for Cavan, Roscommon will give Louth a decent beating, and hopefully Down will overcome Clare. It's a very tight division, with one slip up even at this stage meaning you could go from the promotion hunting places to fending off relegation. Having said that, I think that if Clare lose then it's curtains for them with Cork and Roscommon coming after.
Its not so long ago that Clare knocked Roscommon out of the championship and going by the rossies last league performance it will hardly be a big knock if Clare were to beat them again.

It would be incredibly hard to imagine us turning up to Ennis in the state of mind we did in the championship match you referred to. It will probably be harder for Clare to win this match than it was the championship one, to say the least.
Or could be easier to win if Roscommon deliver another flat performance. On paper Clare away is a tougher fixture than Meath and Down at home anything is possible with an inconsistent side though.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 20, 2018, 01:09:31 AM
Few interesting ties coming up this weekend. I reckon that Tipp will beat Meath, Cork will have too much at home for Cavan, Roscommon will give Louth a decent beating, and hopefully Down will overcome Clare. It's a very tight division, with one slip up even at this stage meaning you could go from the promotion hunting places to fending off relegation. Having said that, I think that if Clare lose then it's curtains for them with Cork and Roscommon coming after.
Its not so long ago that Clare knocked Roscommon out of the championship and going by the rossies last league performance it will hardly be a big knock if Clare were to beat them again.

It would be incredibly hard to imagine us turning up to Ennis in the state of mind we did in the championship match you referred to. It will probably be harder for Clare to win this match than it was the championship one, to say the least.
Or could be easier to win if Roscommon deliver another flat performance. On paper Clare away is a tougher fixture than Meath and Down at home anything is possible with an inconsistent side though.

John Prenty is a bit of a prîck but he’d hardly going to spring a Connacht final on us six days before this Clare game..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on February 20, 2018, 09:14:09 AM
He will when he sees that.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Orchard park on February 20, 2018, 09:21:01 AM
Few interesting ties coming up this weekend. I reckon that Tipp will beat Meath, Cork will have too much at home for Cavan, Roscommon will give Louth a decent beating, and hopefully Down will overcome Clare. It's a very tight division, with one slip up even at this stage meaning you could go from the promotion hunting places to fending off relegation. Having said that, I think that if Clare lose then it's curtains for them with Cork and Roscommon coming after.
Its not so long ago that Clare knocked Roscommon out of the championship and going by the rossies last league performance it will hardly be a big knock if Clare were to beat them again.

It would be incredibly hard to imagine us turning up to Ennis in the state of mind we did in the championship match you referred to. It will probably be harder for Clare to win this match than it was the championship one, to say the least.
Or could be easier to win if Roscommon deliver another flat performance. On paper Clare away is a tougher fixture than Meath and Down at home anything is possible with an inconsistent side though.

John Prenty is a bit of a prîck but he’d hardly going to spring a Connacht final on us six days before this Clare game..

you'll find prenty had nothing to do with creating a replay or fixing the clare game date .your into tinfoil hat territory
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: thejuice on February 21, 2018, 02:37:29 PM
I reckon we’ll bounce back.  Just a hunch though
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: five points on February 21, 2018, 04:23:02 PM
Kells used to be like Beirut back in the 50s for Cavan people coming to and from Croke Park

Beirut never put an ass in Cavan colours in All Ireland Final day.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 21, 2018, 08:47:55 PM
I reckon we’ll bounce back.  Just a hunch though

After our finish to the roscommon game i thought the same but we followed it up with one of our worst performances for years against clare, hopefully after the week break we will be back at it. We need to sort out our home form too, last year we lost to sligo, louth, armagh and roscommon this year and only beat longford and antrim in thurles. Worried about our midfield but meath are a team who should suit us and vise versa we should suit them, expecting an open high scoring game but as said both teams need to bounce back
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: oliverkelly on February 21, 2018, 10:28:37 PM
I reckon we’ll bounce back.  Just a hunch though

After our finish to the roscommon game i thought the same but we followed it up with one of our worst performances for years against clare, hopefully after the week break we will be back at it. We need to sort out our home form too, last year we lost to sligo, louth, armagh and roscommon this year and only beat longford and antrim in thurles. Worried about our midfield but meath are a team who should suit us and vise versa we should suit them, expecting an open high scoring game but as said both teams need to bounce back

From what I seen in our games so far Tipp will beat Meath pulling up. No need to worry
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 21, 2018, 10:42:01 PM
I reckon we’ll bounce back.  Just a hunch though

After our finish to the roscommon game i thought the same but we followed it up with one of our worst performances for years against clare, hopefully after the week break we will be back at it. We need to sort out our home form too, last year we lost to sligo, louth, armagh and roscommon this year and only beat longford and antrim in thurles. Worried about our midfield but meath are a team who should suit us and vise versa we should suit them, expecting an open high scoring game but as said both teams need to bounce back

From what I seen in our games so far Tipp will beat Meath pulling up. No need to worry

You cant base anything really on other games, meath hammered clare, we struggled to a draw. I hope youre right though!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on February 22, 2018, 01:05:11 PM
Roscommon will still be confident of going up. They'll be too good for Clare, Louth are awful and they always beat Cavan. Plus if they really are only getting into proper training now they will improve as the games go by.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 22, 2018, 03:48:48 PM
Roscommon will still be confident of going up. They'll be too good for Clare, Louth are awful and they always beat Cavan. Plus if they really are only getting into proper training now they will improve as the games go by.
I doubt any team will be confident of going up in a division full of inconsistent teams.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on February 22, 2018, 04:46:33 PM
Sundays announced team
Featherstone
Murray Domican Seànie
2 Dalys Timothy
C Daly and E Smith
C Murtagh Kilroy Devaney
D Murtagh C Lennon and Cregger ( c Syfīn )

Might have forwards in wrong order but sure they'll line out where they line out anyway.
Intriguing line up, we'll see how it goes.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 22, 2018, 05:03:36 PM
Appearance 171 for Seanie.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on February 22, 2018, 05:54:13 PM
Your mate Cregger must be well up there too.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on February 22, 2018, 07:13:55 PM
Sundays announced team
Featherstone
Murray Domican Seànie
2 Dalys Timothy
C Daly and E Smith
C Murtagh Kilroy Devaney
D Murtagh C Lennon and Cregger ( c Syfīn )

Might have forwards in wrong order but sure they'll line out where they line out anyway.
Intriguing line up, we'll see how it goes.

I see it was tweeted that only 7 of that Roscommon team started the Connacht final last July.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on February 22, 2018, 09:23:41 PM
That would be about right.
Domo, Timothy, 3 Dalys , Cregger and C Lennon weren't on panel last year while young Featherstone was no3 goalie behind Lavin and O'Malley.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Denn Forever on February 23, 2018, 01:23:52 PM
Roscommon will still be confident of going up. They'll be too good for Clare, Louth are awful and they always beat Cavan. Plus if they really are only getting into proper training now they will improve as the games go by.

Can't the same be said for Cavan?  Especially if we can beat Roscommon.  The game against Cork may give us a better idea.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 23, 2018, 01:37:41 PM
Roscommon will still be confident of going up. They'll be too good for Clare, Louth are awful and they always beat Cavan. Plus if they really are only getting into proper training now they will improve as the games go by.

Can't the same be said for Cavan?  Especially if we can beat Roscommon.  The game against Cork may give us a better idea.

Wash your mouth out with soap. Roscommon don't do losing to Cavan.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: twohands!!! on February 23, 2018, 03:31:41 PM
Cork continue with their policy of not naming a squad of 26

Anthony Casey in goal is the lad who had the nightmare in the U21 final in 2016

I wouldnt be too surprised if Cavan pull off a bit of a shock here.

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1. Anthony Casey (Kiskeam)

2. Sam Ryan (St Finbarr’s)
3. Jamie O’Sullivan (Bishopstown)
4. Micheal McSweeney (Newcestown)

5. Tomas Clancy (Fermoy)
6. Brian O’Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
7. Cian Kiely (Ballincollig)

8. Ian Maguire (St Finbarr’s — captain)
9. Cillian O’Hanlon (Kilshannig)

10. Kevin Flahive (Douglas)
11. Sean White (Clonakilty)
12. Ruairi Deane (Bantry Blues)

13. Michael Hurley (Castlehaven)
14. Colm O’Neill (Ballyclough)
15. Mark Collins (Castlehaven)

Subs:

16. Ryan Price (O’Donovan Rossa)
17. Kevin Crowley (Millstreet)
18. Matthew Taylor (Mallow)
19. Conor Dorman (Bishopstown)
20. Kevin O’Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
21. Daniel O’Callaghan (Clyda Rovers)
22. Cian Dorgan (Ballincollig)
23. John O’Rourke (Carbery Rangers)
24. Stephen Sherlock (St Finbarr’s)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 23, 2018, 03:48:19 PM
Cork continue with their policy of not naming a squad of 26

Anthony Casey in goal is the lad who had the nightmare in the U21 final in 2016

I wouldnt be too surprised if Cavan pull off a bit of a shock here.

Quote
1. Anthony Casey (Kiskeam)

2. Sam Ryan (St Finbarr’s)
3. Jamie O’Sullivan (Bishopstown)
4. Micheal McSweeney (Newcestown)

5. Tomas Clancy (Fermoy)
6. Brian O’Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
7. Cian Kiely (Ballincollig)

8. Ian Maguire (St Finbarr’s — captain)
9. Cillian O’Hanlon (Kilshannig)

10. Kevin Flahive (Douglas)
11. Sean White (Clonakilty)
12. Ruairi Deane (Bantry Blues)

13. Michael Hurley (Castlehaven)
14. Colm O’Neill (Ballyclough)
15. Mark Collins (Castlehaven)

Subs:

16. Ryan Price (O’Donovan Rossa)
17. Kevin Crowley (Millstreet)
18. Matthew Taylor (Mallow)
19. Conor Dorman (Bishopstown)
20. Kevin O’Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
21. Daniel O’Callaghan (Clyda Rovers)
22. Cian Dorgan (Ballincollig)
23. John O’Rourke (Carbery Rangers)
24. Stephen Sherlock (St Finbarr’s)

Would it be that big of a shock? Not so sure although the bookies have Cork 8/15 and Cavan 15/8. I think it will be closed than that.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Captain Obvious on February 23, 2018, 03:56:58 PM
Cork continue with their policy of not naming a squad of 26

Anthony Casey in goal is the lad who had the nightmare in the U21 final in 2016

I wouldnt be too surprised if Cavan pull off a bit of a shock here.

Quote
1. Anthony Casey (Kiskeam)

2. Sam Ryan (St Finbarr’s)
3. Jamie O’Sullivan (Bishopstown)
4. Micheal McSweeney (Newcestown)

5. Tomas Clancy (Fermoy)
6. Brian O’Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
7. Cian Kiely (Ballincollig)

8. Ian Maguire (St Finbarr’s — captain)
9. Cillian O’Hanlon (Kilshannig)

10. Kevin Flahive (Douglas)
11. Sean White (Clonakilty)
12. Ruairi Deane (Bantry Blues)

13. Michael Hurley (Castlehaven)
14. Colm O’Neill (Ballyclough)
15. Mark Collins (Castlehaven)

Subs:

16. Ryan Price (O’Donovan Rossa)
17. Kevin Crowley (Millstreet)
18. Matthew Taylor (Mallow)
19. Conor Dorman (Bishopstown)
20. Kevin O’Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
21. Daniel O’Callaghan (Clyda Rovers)
22. Cian Dorgan (Ballincollig)
23. John O’Rourke (Carbery Rangers)
24. Stephen Sherlock (St Finbarr’s)

Wouldn't be a big surprise if Cavan win, either way i'm expecting Cavan to gain promotion back to Div one now. What I can't get over is the amount of poor mouthing the Cavan supporters were doing before the league started. They won 4 in a row Ulster U21 titles 2011 to 2014 those players are at the right age to make Cavan established Div one team in the years ahead if not they will be underachieving.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Aristo 60 on February 23, 2018, 04:11:37 PM
I think Cork will win by 2 and Down by 6 which puts Down top this Sunday evening. Yes sir.

 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: twohands!!! on February 23, 2018, 04:18:10 PM
I did say "Bit of a shock"

I think Cork look limited enough in terms of scoring players - their half-forward line is made up of a lad who looks a midfielder or nothing - Deane, and White who is also more suited to either midfield or centre-back and Flahive who looks a more natural wing-back. If the three lads in Cork's full-forward line aren't firing I can see Cork struggling for scores from elsewhere.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on February 23, 2018, 04:21:56 PM
I did say "Bit of a shock"

I think Cork look limited enough in terms of scoring players - their half-forward line is made up of a lad who looks a midfielder or nothing - Deane, and White who is also more suited to either midfield or centre-back and Flahive who looks a more natural wing-back. If the three lads in Cork's full-forward line aren't firing I can see Cork struggling for scores from elsewhere.

How many of the Nemo players do you expect to come straight back into the starting team when they are available for selection?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Maroon Manc on February 23, 2018, 04:28:05 PM
I did say "Bit of a shock"

I think Cork look limited enough in terms of scoring players - their half-forward line is made up of a lad who looks a midfielder or nothing - Deane, and White who is also more suited to either midfield or centre-back and Flahive who looks a more natural wing-back. If the three lads in Cork's full-forward line aren't firing I can see Cork struggling for scores from elsewhere.

Would have to agree, don't think Hurley is as good as his brother either. Deane isn't good enough, not a Cork county footballer.

Cork will continue to be inconsistent, with the injuries to the likes of Hurley & Powter and with the Nemo lads missing they'll loose games between now and the end of the season.

Kerry going for their 6th munster title in a row this summer and its hard not to see them emulate their great team of the late 70's early 80's by winning 8 in a row. Cork football is at a very low ebb.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: twohands!!! on February 23, 2018, 05:51:35 PM
I did say "Bit of a shock"

I think Cork look limited enough in terms of scoring players - their half-forward line is made up of a lad who looks a midfielder or nothing - Deane, and White who is also more suited to either midfield or centre-back and Flahive who looks a more natural wing-back. If the three lads in Cork's full-forward line aren't firing I can see Cork struggling for scores from elsewhere.

How many of the Nemo players do you expect to come straight back into the starting team when they are available for selection?

Paul Kerrigan and Stephen Cronin are two I would have back in straight away.
Beyond that I think Michael Martin could/should be in the mix in terms of keeper and Luke Connolly is probably a squad player to my mind - I don't know if he is consistent enough to be a starter.
Don't know how Ronan McCarthy rates Barry O'Driscoll but I'd say squad player. Alan O'Donovan might be a bit of a bolter as Aidan Walshe is out with a long term injury and they seem to be looking at options around there.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on February 23, 2018, 08:11:57 PM
Cavan team named. Obviously Mattie thinks Cork are tougher than Meath, Gearoid and Mackey start. Caoimhin Reilly inexplicably drops to the bench. Our starting Championship side won't be far off this.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 24, 2018, 07:42:26 PM
Tipp ahead of Meath by 6 points at half time!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 24, 2018, 08:41:38 PM
2-15 to 1-10 to Tipp. Meath looking at relegation difficulty now. Great opportunity for cavan or cork tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on February 24, 2018, 08:57:40 PM
What a scalp for Tipp
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: twohands!!! on February 24, 2018, 09:01:10 PM
February 4       Meath 0-21 Clare 0-07
February 11   Clare 0-11 Tipperary 0-11
February 24   Tipperary 2-15 Meath 1-10

Says it all about Division 2
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Horse Box on February 24, 2018, 09:27:15 PM
What a scalp for Tipp

Handy win for Tipp . Great composure in the last 10 minutes even after the Meath goal unlike the Roscommon game . Louth next and a win will see us safe anything after that is a bonus 8) !
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 24, 2018, 09:49:31 PM
What a scalp for Tipp

no scalp about it, meath are living off reputation, they were very poor tonight. keep them out of the scoring zone and theyve very little threat, theyve noone who can kick from over 35 yards, had to work any 45s shot. having said that theyll prob come out and hammer whoever they play next week, that is division 2. win next week and we are safe....then we can think about promotion but need to get over louth first
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on February 25, 2018, 10:25:55 AM
Cork continue with their policy of not naming a squad of 26

Anthony Casey in goal is the lad who had the nightmare in the U21 final in 2016

I wouldnt be too surprised if Cavan pull off a bit of a shock here.

Quote
1. Anthony Casey (Kiskeam)

2. Sam Ryan (St Finbarr’s)
3. Jamie O’Sullivan (Bishopstown)
4. Micheal McSweeney (Newcestown)

5. Tomas Clancy (Fermoy)
6. Brian O’Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
7. Cian Kiely (Ballincollig)

8. Ian Maguire (St Finbarr’s — captain)
9. Cillian O’Hanlon (Kilshannig)

10. Kevin Flahive (Douglas)
11. Sean White (Clonakilty)
12. Ruairi Deane (Bantry Blues)

13. Michael Hurley (Castlehaven)
14. Colm O’Neill (Ballyclough)
15. Mark Collins (Castlehaven)

Subs:

16. Ryan Price (O’Donovan Rossa)
17. Kevin Crowley (Millstreet)
18. Matthew Taylor (Mallow)
19. Conor Dorman (Bishopstown)
20. Kevin O’Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
21. Daniel O’Callaghan (Clyda Rovers)
22. Cian Dorgan (Ballincollig)
23. John O’Rourke (Carbery Rangers)
24. Stephen Sherlock (St Finbarr’s)

Wouldn't be a big surprise if Cavan win, either way i'm expecting Cavan to gain promotion back to Div one now. What I can't get over is the amount of poor mouthing the Cavan supporters were doing before the league started. They won 4 in a row Ulster U21 titles 2011 to 2014 those players are at the right age to make Cavan established Div one team in the years ahead if not they will be underachieving.

There are a grand total of 8 of today's Cavan squad that were a part of those 4 U21 teams. So we've brought an average of 2 players in per team. We played 10 debutantes against Clare in the first round. 11 of today's squad are playing their first year of senior intercounty football.

Poor mouthing?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: grounded on February 25, 2018, 11:20:03 AM
Cork continue with their policy of not naming a squad of 26

Anthony Casey in goal is the lad who had the nightmare in the U21 final in 2016

I wouldnt be too surprised if Cavan pull off a bit of a shock here.

Quote
1. Anthony Casey (Kiskeam)

2. Sam Ryan (St Finbarr’s)
3. Jamie O’Sullivan (Bishopstown)
4. Micheal McSweeney (Newcestown)

5. Tomas Clancy (Fermoy)
6. Brian O’Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
7. Cian Kiely (Ballincollig)

8. Ian Maguire (St Finbarr’s — captain)
9. Cillian O’Hanlon (Kilshannig)

10. Kevin Flahive (Douglas)
11. Sean White (Clonakilty)
12. Ruairi Deane (Bantry Blues)

13. Michael Hurley (Castlehaven)
14. Colm O’Neill (Ballyclough)
15. Mark Collins (Castlehaven)

Subs:

16. Ryan Price (O’Donovan Rossa)
17. Kevin Crowley (Millstreet)
18. Matthew Taylor (Mallow)
19. Conor Dorman (Bishopstown)
20. Kevin O’Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
21. Daniel O’Callaghan (Clyda Rovers)
22. Cian Dorgan (Ballincollig)
23. John O’Rourke (Carbery Rangers)
24. Stephen Sherlock (St Finbarr’s)

Wouldn't be a big surprise if Cavan win, either way i'm expecting Cavan to gain promotion back to Div one now. What I can't get over is the amount of poor mouthing the Cavan supporters were doing before the league started. They won 4 in a row Ulster U21 titles 2011 to 2014 those players are at the right age to make Cavan established Div one team in the years ahead if not they will be underachieving.

There are a grand total of 8 of today's Cavan squad that were a part of those 4 U21 teams. So we've brought an average of 2 players in per team. We played 10 debutantes against Clare in the first round. 11 of today's squad are playing their first year of senior intercounty football.

Poor mouthing?

Ive always wondered about that. Its a terrible return for such a period of dominance at u21 level. What happened that so few have come through during that period?

I do expect Cavan to beat Cork today though given their improving form, though given the way results have gone so far its hard to predict.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on February 25, 2018, 12:56:32 PM
Three changes to Cavan 15. Mackey, Murray(injured) and Gearoid out. Jason, Enda Flan and Caoimhin in.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 25, 2018, 02:47:49 PM
Another vital win in what's turning out to be a pleasantly surprising campaign so far. Sounds from the radio Cavan  kind of fell over the line but saw it home on the back of a big first half effort.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on February 25, 2018, 02:49:49 PM
Bad second half from Cavan but come away with the points without too much fuss. Mattie making what look like pre determined changes at this stage not helping, if lads are playing well leave them at it instead of swapping on big names and risking upsetting the rhythm.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on February 25, 2018, 03:27:15 PM
Looks like Cavan are heading for Division One.
The fools, the fools....
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 25, 2018, 03:33:39 PM
#FreeDonie
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 25, 2018, 03:55:05 PM
Clare beating Down in Newry is a big result for them and for the division overall. It'd seem Cavan and Ros are in the box seat to go up although neither are the finished article by any means, and Louth are gone for sure.
Meath look likeliest to be joining them which wouldn't have been expected before the league began, but it might be best for the Royals to go down and develop at their true level before coming back up stronger in maybe three or four years' time.   
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 25, 2018, 04:07:57 PM
Clare beating Down in Newry is a big result for them and for the division overall. It'd seem Cavan and Ros are in the box seat to go up although neither are the finished article by any means, and Louth are gone for sure.
Meath look likeliest to be joining them which wouldn't have been expected before the league began, but it might be best for the Royals to go down and develop at their true level before coming back up stronger in maybe three or four years' time.

It's division 2, as soon as you start to think it's shaping out you're proved wrong. I think it's in Cavan, roscommon and tipps hands from here on out.

Cavan have down (h), roscommon (a) and tipp (h) to finish

Roscommon have Clare  (a), cavan (h) and cork (h)

Tipp have Louth (h), down (a) and Cavan  (a)

Could very well come down to tipp Cavan winner takes all last day but as said it's division 2 so as bad as Louth have been we can't begin to look beyond that game next.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: cavanmaniac on February 25, 2018, 04:34:02 PM
Yes, of course Tipp are right in there too. It'll be tasty.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on February 25, 2018, 06:51:06 PM
#FreeDonie
Not impressed with your cool clean hero bawling him out for not passing a ball.
Loads of others (incl Enda) did a lot of silly things too yet no public censure.
Good to get the 2 points and improve the score difference .
Louth quite poor, we were good and bad, started and finished strongly had plenty of ropey stuff in between.
Domo going well for a lad 6 years out of Co football. "Cregger" on the other hand.....
Donie with 7 points in 30 minutes stole the show. Dalys and Murtaghs on and off were decent.
McManus showed again that horsing around half back is his forte rather than FB.
Referee not good but will get some expenses travelling all the way from Rhubarbia. He might need to get a few new umpires though.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 25, 2018, 06:57:23 PM
#FreeDonie
Not impressed with your cool clean hero bawling him out for not passing a ball.
Loads of others (incl Enda) did a lot of silly things too yet no public censure.
Good to get the 2 points and improve the score difference .
Louth quite poor, we were good and bad, started and finished strongly had plenty of ropey stuff in between.
Domo going well for a lad 6 years out of Co football. "Cregger" on the other hand.....
Donie with 7 points in 30 minutes stole the show. Dalys and Murtaghs on and off were decent.
McManus showed again that horsing around half back is his forte rather than FB.
Referee not good but will get some expenses travelling all the way from Rhubarbia. He might need to get a few new umpires though.

Who was the ref?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on February 25, 2018, 07:04:25 PM
Devaney from Co Mayo. Cormac Reilly was a linesman.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 25, 2018, 07:34:14 PM
Devanny is dung alright. Bet he gave Louth loads in 2nd half when they were miles behind?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on February 25, 2018, 08:42:00 PM
Meath are circling the trapdoor.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on February 25, 2018, 08:57:09 PM
Devanny is dung alright. Bet he gave Louth loads in 2nd half when they were miles behind?
They found it easier to get frees alright.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 25, 2018, 08:59:53 PM
#FreeDonie
Not impressed with your cool clean hero bawling him out for not passing a ball.
Loads of others (incl Enda) did a lot of silly things too yet no public censure.
Good to get the 2 points and improve the score difference .
Louth quite poor, we were good and bad, started and finished strongly had plenty of ropey stuff in between.
Domo going well for a lad 6 years out of Co football. "Cregger" on the other hand.....
Donie with 7 points in 30 minutes stole the show. Dalys and Murtaghs on and off were decent.
McManus showed again that horsing around half back is his forte rather than FB.
Referee not good but will get some expenses travelling all the way from Rhubarbia. He might need to get a few new umpires though.

Sure were you and the Gay Sheehan brigade complaining about him sitting in the stand the first year? Now he’s down the sideline cajoling them like John Evans’ long lost brother and yer still finding fault..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on February 25, 2018, 09:09:08 PM
Read what I wrote y'eejit.
He singled out one player for loud and public criticism which was bad form.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 25, 2018, 09:24:28 PM
Read what I wrote y'eejit.
He singled out one player for loud and public criticism which was bad form.

Wasn’t Donie nearly black carded amid his great run? I remember McHale having to run on the field
against Tipp and give him a bit of a shove away from the buck he was engaging to calm him down. If they’re hard on Donie it’s only because they know the talent he has and that he’ll waste with silly headless play.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 25, 2018, 09:44:57 PM
Meath are circling the trapdoor.

Meath have cork next weekend, lose that and they are in serious bother as Clare could get another win in Ennis - maybe next weekend against Roscommon?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 25, 2018, 09:46:01 PM
Meath are circling the trapdoor.

Meath have cork next weekend, lose that and they are in serious bother as Clare could get another win in Ennis - maybe next weekend against Roscommon?

In your dreams.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: thejuice on February 25, 2018, 09:47:33 PM
Sure we’re within only 2 points of the promotion places. We’ll be grand.  8)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on February 25, 2018, 09:55:39 PM
Meath are circling the trapdoor.

Meath have cork next weekend, lose that and they are in serious bother as Clare could get another win in Ennis - maybe next weekend against Roscommon?

In your dreams.

Well I was basing that on the facts that Roscommon haven't started training yet and may possibly be wearing wrong boots. Of course the ref will also be against them too.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on February 25, 2018, 10:03:22 PM
Roscommon even money to get promoted. Giving money away.

I think it's a toss up between ourselves and Tipp to go up with the Rossies but I'd give Tipp a slight advantage at this stage. They'll beat Louth but we will get it tough against Down.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 25, 2018, 10:07:18 PM
Meath are circling the trapdoor.

Meath have cork next weekend, lose that and they are in serious bother as Clare could get another win in Ennis - maybe next weekend against Roscommon?

In your dreams.

Well I was basing that on the facts that Roscommon haven't started training yet and may possibly be wearing wrong boots. Of course the ref will also be against them too.

Still wouldn’t stop us beating Cavan, though.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Targetman on February 25, 2018, 10:16:51 PM
Roscommon even money to get promoted. Giving money away.

I think it's a toss up between ourselves and Tipp to go up with the Rossies but I'd give Tipp a slight advantage at this stage. They'll beat Louth but we will get it tough against Down.
Not the Down that I seen today!!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 25, 2018, 10:17:26 PM
Roscommon even money to get promoted. Giving money away.

I think it's a toss up between ourselves and Tipp to go up with the Rossies but I'd give Tipp a slight advantage at this stage. They'll beat Louth but we will get it tough against Down.

Doesnt seem to be anything between cavan and tipp so far, from the opening 3 games we both drew with clare, tipp beat meath at home by 8 cavan did the same by 5 and tipp beat cork away by 6 cavan did the same by 3. If you offered me a winners take all match final game for promotion id take it but thats a long way off yet
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 26, 2018, 04:13:48 PM



We'll be back home soon enough. Just packing up a few things..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on February 26, 2018, 04:32:07 PM



We'll be back home soon enough. Just packing up a few things..

I was actually looking at yer results and take dublin game out of it 2 1 point losses and 1 2 point loss, its not looking promising but up to now ye have been very competitive up there
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Dinny Breen on February 26, 2018, 04:37:42 PM
And they led Dublin at half-time. Decision making particularly around shot selection and when to carry have been poor as you just have less time to think about, that and the step up in physicality. Steep learning curve but the attitude has been good, a little bit more luck and they could have been sitting on 6 points such are the fine margins in Division 1.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on February 26, 2018, 04:38:20 PM



We'll be back home soon enough. Just packing up a few things..

I was actually looking at yer results and take dublin game out of it 2 1 point losses and 1 2 point loss, its not looking promising but up to now ye have been very competitive up there

You have to take that in the context of the big teams not being too bothered and Kildare
going hell for leather like Galway are. The difference between those two teams’ point totals is more of a telling factor as to where Kildare sit at the minute.

Honestly, there’s less of a gap between Kerry and Meath right now than there is between Dublin and Kerry. A race for second place.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 05, 2018, 11:31:38 AM
Time to get this thread back to the limelight.
All to play for still.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 05, 2018, 02:02:03 PM
Time to get this thread back to the limelight.
All to play for still.

It is, looks like Cavan need two win to go up, tipp and roscommon look like they may well need to win all their games to guarantee it but have it in their own hands, the rest will need to win 3 on the bounce to have a chance and hope for some help I think.

Looks like 1 from 6 teams could go down.

Everything should become abit more clearer after this weekend
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 05, 2018, 04:16:45 PM
Predictions

Cavan to narrowly beat down
Clare to beat Roscommon
Cork to beat Meath
Tipp will hammer Louth
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 05, 2018, 04:39:23 PM


Down to beat Cavan sure aren't Down better on the road?

Clare and the rossies to draw that would be Clares 3rd home draw in a row.

Tipp to beat Louth by about 9 points though my Louth friend tells me they beat Tipp in Semple Staduim on their last visit

Meath v Cork if Meath have got over the hard hitting Paddy O Rourke comments they might win this home game.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 05, 2018, 04:45:27 PM
Down to beat Cavan by 3
Roscommon to roll over Clare with minimal fuss.
Tipp will struggle but beat Louth.
Meath and Cork to draw.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Orchard park on March 05, 2018, 04:53:10 PM
which county really believes they will survive in div 1
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 05, 2018, 05:57:07 PM
which county really believes they will survive in div 1
Galway after spending 6 years in Div 2 were told they wouldn't survive and are now one win away from reaching the Div one final. Good job Monaghan didn't have that lack of belief when they were a Division 3 team in 2013.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: An Watcher on March 05, 2018, 06:05:00 PM
Hard to work out which down team will turn up.  Either way I can't see them beating a Cavan team on the up.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 05, 2018, 06:11:24 PM
which county really believes they will survive in div 1

Maybe the one that did it two years ago?

I’d suspect Cavan might come back down to earth before they have to make the trip to the Hyde next week. Two losses on the trot would leave the Tipp game in a very precarious spot for them. This isn’t the division where teams do it the easy way.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 05, 2018, 06:49:00 PM


Down to beat Cavan sure aren't Down better on the road?

Clare and the rossies to draw that would be Clares 3rd home draw in a row.

Tipp to beat Louth by about 9 points though my Louth friend tells me they beat Tipp in Semple Staduim on their last visit

Meath v Cork if Meath have got over the hard hitting Paddy O Rourke comments they might win this home game.

Yep, last year, 2nd last game. The winners of louth tipp in thurles was going to be promoted, we were complacent and poor as we had been the whole year and i think we took the match for granted. Played them again in the final and won comfortably. Looks like Louth have fallen back a bit where as we have pushed on, really hoping lessons have been learned and we dont make that same mistake again.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 05, 2018, 06:51:36 PM
which county really believes they will survive in div 1
Galway after spending 6 years in Div 2 were told they wouldn't survive and are now one win away from reaching the Div one final. Good job Monaghan didn't have that lack of belief when they were a Division 3 team in 2013.

Even Kildare have been very competitive, lost well against dublin which can happen anyone, lost the other 3 games by 1, 1 and 2. They are on 0 points but you wouldnt say they were out of their depth
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 05, 2018, 07:32:18 PM
Down to beat Cavan by 3
Roscommon to roll over Clare with minimal fuss.
Tipp will struggle but beat Louth.
Meath and Cork to draw.

Tipp 1/12 to beat Louth. Id be very surprised if they don't win by 10 points or more. Id be disappointed if we don't get over Down. Mcveety is the key, he is in fantastic form and has really developed his decision making. With the 2 weeks without a game I'd expect gearoid and Mackey to start this game. Also Mcglennan has mentioned a number of times he is very keen to turn breffni into a fortress again. That means 4/4 wins and I think the players are motivated well to that end. Now if we can win the last 2 games are very tough. I could see us beat Down and lose the next 2 matches.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Orchard park on March 05, 2018, 07:49:36 PM
which county really believes they will survive in div 1

Maybe the one that did it two years ago?

I’d suspect Cavan might come back down to earth before they have to make the trip to the Hyde next week. Two losses on the trot would leave the Tipp game in a very precarious spot for them. This isn’t the division where teams do it the easy way.

The one which failed miserably in  Div1 in 2017 is it
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 05, 2018, 07:50:50 PM
which county really believes they will survive in div 1

Maybe the one that did it two years ago?

I’d suspect Cavan might come back down to earth before they have to make the trip to the Hyde next week. Two losses on the trot would leave the Tipp game in a very precarious spot for them. This isn’t the division where teams do it the easy way.

The one which failed miserably in  Div1 in 2017 is it

Yeah, the ones that are Connacht champions.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Orchard park on March 05, 2018, 09:44:12 PM
Discussing league here......

My opinion is none of the teams in D2 are capable of s sustained  spell in D1 yet and all would be bettefvserved in D2 for development.   Galway had 6 years under their belt before going up. Ross went from 4 through to 1, had a sensational season, had a nihhtmarevamdvsrdvprobsbly at their realistic level now....... very hard blood new players in key positions in D1 and this applies to all the current D2 teams Most of whom are rebuilding of searching for key personnel still......
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 05, 2018, 09:53:52 PM
Discussing league here......

My opinion is none of the teams in D2 are capable of s sustained  spell in D1 yet and all would be bettefvserved in D2 for development.   Galway had 6 years under their belt before going up. Ross went from 4 through to 1, had a sensational season, had a nihhtmarevamdvsrdvprobsbly at their realistic level now....... very hard blood new players in key positions in D1 and this applies to all the current D2 teams Most of whom are rebuilding of searching for key personnel still......

Your opinion isn’t very well supported by facts. Roscommon won a Connacht title (and very nearly two) off the back of two seasons in D1. The likes of Kildare, Monaghan, Donegal and Galway are hardly much better than Tipp or Cork or Roscommon, especially given they going hell for leather in the league while the D2 teams aren’t, at least we most certainly haven’t been.

I hate this nonsense about it being better to be in D2. I remember the same shîte when we went up two seasons ago and we’re now a much better side for the experience than we were ending 2015 knocked out by Sligo and Fermanagh. There’s little to fear in D1 apart from Dublin.

Players and supporters want to play the best - end of sentence.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Orchard park on March 05, 2018, 10:07:59 PM
No need to tell someone their  opinion is shite young lad.

Learn a bit of respect if trying to debate.......


And I am resolute in my belief that we would have been better served not gaining promotion on that crazy day in 2015, even if in your absolutism world  this might be heresy.....



Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 05, 2018, 10:24:31 PM
Discussing league here......

My opinion is none of the teams in D2 are capable of s sustained  spell in D1 yet and all would be bettefvserved in D2 for development.   Galway had 6 years under their belt before going up. Ross went from 4 through to 1, had a sensational season, had a nihhtmarevamdvsrdvprobsbly at their realistic level now....... very hard blood new players in key positions in D1 and this applies to all the current D2 teams Most of whom are rebuilding of searching for key personnel still......

Your opinion isn’t very well supported by facts. Roscommon won a Connacht title (and very nearly two) off the back of two seasons in D1. The likes of Kildare, Monaghan, Donegal and Galway are hardly much better than Tipp or Cork or Roscommon, especially given they going hell for leather in the league while the D2 teams aren’t, at least we most certainly haven’t been.

I hate this nonsense about it being better to be in D2. I remember the same shîte when we went up two seasons ago and we’re now a much better side for the experience than we were ending 2015 knocked out by Sligo and Fermanagh. There’s little to fear in D1 apart from Dublin.

Players and supporters want to play the best - end of sentence.

I agree. Mayo are the 2nd best team in Ireland and each year they barely hang in there. Monaghan do quite well too despite not being that much ahead of a few teams in div2. The aim is to play the best and you will improve. Armagh issue was they have an eejit in charge.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 05, 2018, 10:34:19 PM
The bonus for the two sides that do gain promotion to Div one this year is that they will have Div 2 football at the worst by 2020.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: imtommygunn on March 05, 2018, 10:57:51 PM
Discussing league here......

My opinion is none of the teams in D2 are capable of s sustained  spell in D1 yet and all would be bettefvserved in D2 for development.   Galway had 6 years under their belt before going up. Ross went from 4 through to 1, had a sensational season, had a nihhtmarevamdvsrdvprobsbly at their realistic level now....... very hard blood new players in key positions in D1 and this applies to all the current D2 teams Most of whom are rebuilding of searching for key personnel still......

Your opinion isn’t very well supported by facts. Roscommon won a Connacht title (and very nearly two) off the back of two seasons in D1. The likes of Kildare, Monaghan, Donegal and Galway are hardly much better than Tipp or Cork or Roscommon, especially given they going hell for leather in the league while the D2 teams aren’t, at least we most certainly haven’t been.

I hate this nonsense about it being better to be in D2. I remember the same shîte when we went up two seasons ago and we’re now a much better side for the experience than we were ending 2015 knocked out by Sligo and Fermanagh. There’s little to fear in D1 apart from Dublin.

Players and supporters want to play the best - end of sentence.

You don't state very many facts that disprove what was said there. Roscommon have won connacht. Ok to counter that monaghan have won ulster and are in the hunt every year.

Tipp and cork would really struggle at division 1 level. The others would yoyo.roscommon have done this as per the other poster's point...

I would put galway and monaghan as better than anything in division 2. Donegal and kildare remain to be seen.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 05, 2018, 11:06:10 PM
Discussing league here......

My opinion is none of the teams in D2 are capable of s sustained  spell in D1 yet and all would be bettefvserved in D2 for development.   Galway had 6 years under their belt before going up. Ross went from 4 through to 1, had a sensational season, had a nihhtmarevamdvsrdvprobsbly at their realistic level now....... very hard blood new players in key positions in D1 and this applies to all the current D2 teams Most of whom are rebuilding of searching for key personnel still......

Your opinion isn’t very well supported by facts. Roscommon won a Connacht title (and very nearly two) off the back of two seasons in D1. The likes of Kildare, Monaghan, Donegal and Galway are hardly much better than Tipp or Cork or Roscommon, especially given they going hell for leather in the league while the D2 teams aren’t, at least we most certainly haven’t been.

I hate this nonsense about it being better to be in D2. I remember the same shîte when we went up two seasons ago and we’re now a much better side for the experience than we were ending 2015 knocked out by Sligo and Fermanagh. There’s little to fear in D1 apart from Dublin.

Players and supporters want to play the best - end of sentence.

You don't state very many facts that disprove what was said there. Roscommon have won connacht. Ok to counter that monaghan have won ulster and are in the hunt every year.

Tipp and cork would really struggle at division 1 level. The others would yoyo.roscommon have done this as per the other poster's point...

I would put galway and monaghan as better than anything in division 2. Donegal and kildare remain to be seen.

Galway are definitely better than Roscommon. I couldn’t really point to anything to suggest they aren’t far ahead of them.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 05, 2018, 11:43:50 PM
Poor little Syfīn is too young to remember Ros ever winning a Connacht Title so he's still in Syf heaven over last July.
He thinks it's the greatest thing ever.
It was lovely alright as were 2010, 2001, 1991 and 1990.
I vaguely recall 79 and 80 but was too young to understand.
However a Provincial title is really just an Intermediate Cup nowadays.
Anyway whoever is promoted will struggle unless they do a Ros 2016/Galway 2018 and go hell for leather in the League.
Be great if you could do that and still make waves in the Championship of course.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 05, 2018, 11:53:46 PM
Poor little Syfīn is too young to remember Ros ever winning a Connacht Title so he's still in Syf heaven over last July.
He thinks it's the greatest thing ever.
It was lovely alright as were 2010, 2001, 1991 and 1990.
I vaguely recall 79 and 80 but was too young to understand.
However a Provincial title is really just an Intermediate Cup nowadays.
Anyway whoever is promoted will struggle unless they do a Ros 2016/Galway 2018 and go hell for leather in the League.
Be great if you could do that and still make waves in the Championship of course.

We were a point away from winning Connacht in 2016.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 06, 2018, 12:05:20 AM
We were a point away from reaching an AI semi final last August.
However we were 10 and 20 away in the 2016 and 17 replays.
Pattern?
Mental, Fitness, Stamina or what?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 06, 2018, 01:13:36 AM
We were a point away from reaching an AI semi final last August.
However we were 10 and 20 away in the 2016 and 17 replays.
Pattern?
Mental, Fitness, Stamina or what?

Working out the kinks for the eventual capture of Sam Maguire.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 06, 2018, 08:22:09 AM
I don't understand this narrative of div2 teams  or being good enough for div1. Seems now the implication is you'd be better to throw a few games and not get promoted. Really is a daft premise. How do you close the gap on the best if you try to avoid playing them? Also div 1 football is a superb boost for the GAA in your county. Last year we had Dublin and Kerry in breffni which were fantastic for cavan GAA. We got a draw against Kerry, respectable enough show against Dublin and we beat Mayo in castlebar. It wasn't enough to keep us up but to suggest we would have been better not going up at all is ridiculous.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Orchard park on March 06, 2018, 09:53:47 AM
I don't understand this narrative of div2 teams  or being good enough for div1. Seems now the implication is you'd be better to throw a few games and not get promoted. Really is a daft premise. How do you close the gap on the best if you try to avoid playing them? Also div 1 football is a superb boost for the GAA in your county. Last year we had Dublin and Kerry in breffni which were fantastic for cavan GAA. We got a draw against Kerry, respectable enough show against Dublin and we beat Mayo in castlebar. It wasn't enough to keep us up but to suggest we would have been better not going up at all is ridiculous.

if your team needs to blood a new full back, centre back, 2 midfielders and a couple of forwards, which is the better place to do it, taking a 20 point tanking off Dublin  or in a competitive match in D2.

if you have the panel and mgmt more or less battle hardened then D1 is a no brainer but D1 is not a one size fits all cure
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 06, 2018, 10:09:01 AM
I don't understand this narrative of div2 teams  or being good enough for div1. Seems now the implication is you'd be better to throw a few games and not get promoted. Really is a daft premise. How do you close the gap on the best if you try to avoid playing them? Also div 1 football is a superb boost for the GAA in your county. Last year we had Dublin and Kerry in breffni which were fantastic for cavan GAA. We got a draw against Kerry, respectable enough show against Dublin and we beat Mayo in castlebar. It wasn't enough to keep us up but to suggest we would have been better not going up at all is ridiculous.

if your team needs to blood a new full back, centre back, 2 midfielders and a couple of forwards, which is the better place to do it, taking a 20 point tanking off Dublin  or in a competitive match in D2.

if you have the panel and mgmt more or less battle hardened then D1 is a no brainer but D1 is not a one size fits all cure

Highly unlikely in that scenario you would get to div 1
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Orchard park on March 06, 2018, 10:33:30 AM
no but you could end up there thanks to a misplaced paddy o'Rourke kickout in those circumstances as Roscommon did
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 06, 2018, 10:45:16 AM
I don't understand this narrative of div2 teams  or being good enough for div1. Seems now the implication is you'd be better to throw a few games and not get promoted. Really is a daft premise. How do you close the gap on the best if you try to avoid playing them? Also div 1 football is a superb boost for the GAA in your county. Last year we had Dublin and Kerry in breffni which were fantastic for cavan GAA. We got a draw against Kerry, respectable enough show against Dublin and we beat Mayo in castlebar. It wasn't enough to keep us up but to suggest we would have been better not going up at all is ridiculous.

if your team needs to blood a new full back, centre back, 2 midfielders and a couple of forwards, which is the better place to do it, taking a 20 point tanking off Dublin  or in a competitive match in D2.

if you have the panel and mgmt more or less battle hardened then D1 is a no brainer but D1 is not a one size fits all cure

Are Galway not blooding in a new fullback this year? I'm not overly familiar with their team and how many are new to it this year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Orchard park on March 06, 2018, 10:50:25 AM
they are but not a scatter of other positions also......and  have up to 6 yeaqrs of D2 under their belt for those who arent new
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 06, 2018, 11:39:23 AM
they are but not a scatter of other positions also......and  have up to 6 yeaqrs of D2 under their belt for those who arent new

Roscommon have two in D1 and two in D2, while Cavan have three in D2 and one in D1 under their belts. I can’t remember the last time Cork dipped below D2 either and they’re probably weaker than some of the other D2 teams. I don’t see a strong point in that statement.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 06, 2018, 12:46:22 PM
I don't understand this narrative of div2 teams  or being good enough for div1. Seems now the implication is you'd be better to throw a few games and not get promoted. Really is a daft premise. How do you close the gap on the best if you try to avoid playing them? Also div 1 football is a superb boost for the GAA in your county. Last year we had Dublin and Kerry in breffni which were fantastic for cavan GAA. We got a draw against Kerry, respectable enough show against Dublin and we beat Mayo in castlebar. It wasn't enough to keep us up but to suggest we would have been better not going up at all is ridiculous.

if your team needs to blood a new full back, centre back, 2 midfielders and a couple of forwards, which is the better place to do it, taking a 20 point tanking off Dublin  or in a competitive match in D2.

if you have the panel and mgmt more or less battle hardened then D1 is a no brainer but D1 is not a one size fits all cure

Are Galway not blooding in a new fullback this year? I'm not overly familiar with their team and how many are new to it this year.

Galway are blooding 3 of last years 21's this year in Sean Andy Kelly, Sean Kelly & Peter Cooke. Cooke has been around the panel for a few years but went to the states last summer but this is the first year he's been a regular.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 06, 2018, 01:51:14 PM
I don't understand this narrative of div2 teams  or being good enough for div1. Seems now the implication is you'd be better to throw a few games and not get promoted. Really is a daft premise. How do you close the gap on the best if you try to avoid playing them? Also div 1 football is a superb boost for the GAA in your county. Last year we had Dublin and Kerry in breffni which were fantastic for cavan GAA. We got a draw against Kerry, respectable enough show against Dublin and we beat Mayo in castlebar. It wasn't enough to keep us up but to suggest we would have been better not going up at all is ridiculous.
True a very strange narrative to have. Division 2 this year isn't much different than other years as its probably the most competitive of all four divisions a dog eat dog group, one week you could be pushing for promotion the next fighting for relegation, Division one can be a bit of shadow boxing especially among the top 3 or 4 sides who aren't at their fittest and are giving run outs to players that won't see much game time in the championship and that can sometimes give false hope to the less fancied teams however Division one is the place to be for any county with ambition. Playing against the best players in front of the biggest crowds, Cavan got a taste of it last year and no doubt will want to be back there again next year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 06, 2018, 02:39:48 PM
I don't understand this narrative of div2 teams  or being good enough for div1. Seems now the implication is you'd be better to throw a few games and not get promoted. Really is a daft premise. How do you close the gap on the best if you try to avoid playing them? Also div 1 football is a superb boost for the GAA in your county. Last year we had Dublin and Kerry in breffni which were fantastic for cavan GAA. We got a draw against Kerry, respectable enough show against Dublin and we beat Mayo in castlebar. It wasn't enough to keep us up but to suggest we would have been better not going up at all is ridiculous.

if your team needs to blood a new full back, centre back, 2 midfielders and a couple of forwards, which is the better place to do it, taking a 20 point tanking off Dublin  or in a competitive match in D2.

if you have the panel and mgmt more or less battle hardened then D1 is a no brainer but D1 is not a one size fits all cure

Are Galway not blooding in a new fullback this year? I'm not overly familiar with their team and how many are new to it this year.

Galway are blooding 3 of last years 21's this year in Sean Andy Kelly, Sean Kelly & Peter Cooke. Cooke has been around the panel for a few years but went to the states last summer but this is the first year he's been a regular.

Sean Andy O Ceallaigh, is he new to the set up? If so then is it not a case of blooding someone at fullback aswell in division 1 where you don't think any teams in division 2 currently are capable of doing the same? (I may be wrong on this, as I said I'm not overly familiar with the team)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 06, 2018, 02:45:48 PM
I don't understand this narrative of div2 teams  or being good enough for div1. Seems now the implication is you'd be better to throw a few games and not get promoted. Really is a daft premise. How do you close the gap on the best if you try to avoid playing them? Also div 1 football is a superb boost for the GAA in your county. Last year we had Dublin and Kerry in breffni which were fantastic for cavan GAA. We got a draw against Kerry, respectable enough show against Dublin and we beat Mayo in castlebar. It wasn't enough to keep us up but to suggest we would have been better not going up at all is ridiculous.

if your team needs to blood a new full back, centre back, 2 midfielders and a couple of forwards, which is the better place to do it, taking a 20 point tanking off Dublin  or in a competitive match in D2.

if you have the panel and mgmt more or less battle hardened then D1 is a no brainer but D1 is not a one size fits all cure

Are Galway not blooding in a new fullback this year? I'm not overly familiar with their team and how many are new to it this year.

Galway are blooding 3 of last years 21's this year in Sean Andy Kelly, Sean Kelly & Peter Cooke. Cooke has been around the panel for a few years but went to the states last summer but this is the first year he's been a regular.

Sean Andy O Ceallaigh, is he new to the set up? If so then is it not a case of blooding someone at fullback aswell in division 1 where you don't think any teams in division 2 currently are capable of doing the same? (I may be wrong on this, as I said I'm not overly familiar with the team)
Sean Andy is new, he was the U21 full back for Galway last year and he should hold onto his starting spot for the championship not so sure if Sean Kelly & Peter Cooke will though with Daly,Liam Silke etc to return.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 06, 2018, 06:03:04 PM
I don't understand this narrative of div2 teams  or being good enough for div1. Seems now the implication is you'd be better to throw a few games and not get promoted. Really is a daft premise. How do you close the gap on the best if you try to avoid playing them? Also div 1 football is a superb boost for the GAA in your county. Last year we had Dublin and Kerry in breffni which were fantastic for cavan GAA. We got a draw against Kerry, respectable enough show against Dublin and we beat Mayo in castlebar. It wasn't enough to keep us up but to suggest we would have been better not going up at all is ridiculous.

if your team needs to blood a new full back, centre back, 2 midfielders and a couple of forwards, which is the better place to do it, taking a 20 point tanking off Dublin  or in a competitive match in D2.

if you have the panel and mgmt more or less battle hardened then D1 is a no brainer but D1 is not a one size fits all cure

Are Galway not blooding in a new fullback this year? I'm not overly familiar with their team and how many are new to it this year.

Galway are blooding 3 of last years 21's this year in Sean Andy Kelly, Sean Kelly & Peter Cooke. Cooke has been around the panel for a few years but went to the states last summer but this is the first year he's been a regular.

Sean Andy O Ceallaigh, is he new to the set up? If so then is it not a case of blooding someone at fullback aswell in division 1 where you don't think any teams in division 2 currently are capable of doing the same? (I may be wrong on this, as I said I'm not overly familiar with the team)
Sean Andy is new, he was the U21 full back for Galway last year and he should hold onto his starting spot for the championship not so sure if Sean Kelly & Peter Cooke will though with Daly,Liam Silke etc to return.

In that case I dont see why any teams in division 2 currently cant do the same. Id rather be in division 1 sooner rather than later, we currently have the best tipp football team in god knows how long and who knows when this team starts to break up if we will still be able to maintain this success and competitiveness.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Smurfy123 on March 07, 2018, 08:56:57 AM
Lads how are Cavan topping this table?Tyrone beat them by 23 points in the McKenna cup at home.Obviously they have improved from then but surely should not be topping this league.Its says a lot about he rest of the teams?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 07, 2018, 09:23:23 AM
Lads how are Cavan topping this table?Tyrone beat them by 23 points in the McKenna cup at home.Obviously they have improved from then but surely should not be topping this league.Its says a lot about he rest of the teams?

Strange using a preseason competition in early January to judge a teams ability on. Sure Meath and westmeath are in the o Byrne cup final, best two teams in Leinster? Cork best in Munster?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on March 07, 2018, 09:48:23 AM
I think it's safe to say the uncertainty surrounding the O'Byrne Cup final has had a massive negative effect on our league performances.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Orchard park on March 07, 2018, 11:26:38 AM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0306/945337-galways-coen-sees-positive-in-second-tier-campaign/
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 07, 2018, 11:29:27 AM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0306/945337-galways-coen-sees-positive-in-second-tier-campaign/

No comparison, division 1b in hurling isn't competitive, nobody near Galway and limerick and they are guaranteed getting into the quarter final, their league really starts this weekend
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: five points on March 07, 2018, 11:39:29 AM
Lads how are Cavan topping this table?Tyrone beat them by 23 points in the McKenna cup at home.Obviously they have improved from then but surely should not be topping this league.Its says a lot about he rest of the teams?

We had a very weak team out that night.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Look-Up! on March 07, 2018, 12:19:56 PM
Lads how are Cavan topping this table?Tyrone beat them by 23 points in the McKenna cup at home.Obviously they have improved from then but surely should not be topping this league.Its says a lot about he rest of the teams?

Dead right. Considering you're the 2nd best team in Ulster only losing narrowly to Tyrone in last years final and with Harrison back this weekend, I fear we'll be lucky to keep it kicked out.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Smurfy123 on March 07, 2018, 12:54:13 PM
Look up less of the sarcasm
Your going on as if you are Dublin FFS
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 07, 2018, 01:21:35 PM
Look up less of the sarcasm
Your going on as if you are Dublin FFS

Wait....your original post was a serious question?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Look-Up! on March 07, 2018, 01:26:14 PM
Who's going on like Dublin? I haven't seen anyone bigging us up. Lots of people pleasantly surprised to have achieved safety already, that's it. It's Division 2. Why shouldn't a team like Cavan be capable of winning a few games and why should it reflect so badly on the rest when they do? Smurfy less of the arrogance.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 07, 2018, 05:05:41 PM
Down to beat Cavan by 3
Roscommon to roll over Clare with minimal fuss.
Tipp will struggle but beat Louth.
Meath and Cork to draw.

Tipp 1/12 to beat Louth. Id be very surprised if they don't win by 10 points or more. Id be disappointed if we don't get over Down. Mcveety is the key, he is in fantastic form and has really developed his decision making. With the 2 weeks without a game I'd expect gearoid and Mackey to start this game. Also Mcglennan has mentioned a number of times he is very keen to turn breffni into a fortress again. That means 4/4 wins and I think the players are motivated well to that end. Now if we can win the last 2 games are very tough. I could see us beat Down and lose the next 2 matches.

It's hard to know with Down, I just think they're always dangerous especially against a team like Cavan that they have a superior record over in recent times.
I'm not sure if I'd start both Mackey and Gearoid, I think I would just start Gearoid, let him drive at Down early. Bring Mackey on for the last 20 minutes regardless of the scenario, he's equally useful in chasing a game or holding onto a lead.

Yeah I'd imagine Down will put some effort into bottling up McVeety. He's been fantastic so far this year. He's really improved as an athlete and it's our best option for breaking down defences. But we've a lot of lads in good form, Clerkin, Caoimhin, Martin Reilly, all will take watching.

We have a good chance of getting promoted but I think we have the toughest run in of the bunch. If we weren't promoted I wouldn't be overly concerned.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 07, 2018, 05:25:42 PM
Have the best players in Cavan committed to the panel this year or have some dropped out?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Look-Up! on March 07, 2018, 06:45:55 PM
Have the best players in Cavan committed to the panel this year or have some dropped out?

That's a good question. We have had retirements/injuries and we're definitely missing players that would improve us, no doubt. But these lads simply cannot commit rather than dropping out in protest as all the rumors of turmoil were implying at start of year. After that we're missing a good few with playing experience from last year but last year we weren't exactly a settled team. We were stronger IMO in 2016. We had a few decent results in league last year but we experimented a lot and were flat come championship with no player laying down a real marker for the key positions that we had trouble with. The new additions have done well this term and we look much more mobile and dangerous and settled albeit in a lower division. So jury is still out. Bigger tests await and expectation might be starting to build so we'll see how they react. It won't be a disaster if we don't get promoted although I would love to get back to Division 1. But I really hope to see us do something different in Championship this year. We've been average at best the last few years.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 07, 2018, 07:02:42 PM
Have the best players in Cavan committed to the panel this year or have some dropped out?

If Cavan had every single player in the county willing to commit, I would see maybe 3 or 4 changes max to our starting 15. Our bench would be much stronger.
That said, the lads like David Phillips and Oisin Kiernan that are in their first year have been excellent so far. And the young lads on the bench like David Brady and Thomas Galligan are decent prospects.

There's a bit more than the natural cycle of time drop off, but we have the 10 or so best players in the county fit or nearly fit and committed. If we don't progress this year the defections from the squad won't be any excuse.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 07, 2018, 07:10:43 PM
Gerry Smith was a real disappointing non committed for me, he's potential to be every bit as good as mcveety. Rory Dunne, Givney, Keating another few who played year before last. Buchanan was playing midfield last year and Michael argue another along with retirement Thomas corr. Jack Brady non commital in forwards. Prob missed a good few too. No sign of Johnson yet but giving we are going well in forwards maybe it would be a good time for him to retire too.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Look-Up! on March 07, 2018, 07:29:34 PM
Gerry Smith was a real disappointing non committed for me, he's potential to be every bit as good as mcveety. Rory Dunne, Givney, Keating another few who played year before last. Buchanan was playing midfield last year and Michael argue another along with retirement Thomas corr. Jack Brady non commital in forwards. Prob missed a good few too. No sign of Johnson yet but giving we are going well in forwards maybe it would be a good time for him to retire too.

Joe Dillon another lad with ability and experience who would have big claims for a start. There's lots of lads not on panel with potential and some experience but who have never fully proved themselves or gotten a prolonged run. Maybe this is why so many people were flipping out at start of year because of non availables. But like has been said already, we're really only about 4 short who you could say should definitely be starting. Having said all that we have a very unproven bench if injuries start to pile up.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 07, 2018, 07:48:39 PM
Gerry Smith was a real disappointing non committed for me, he's potential to be every bit as good as mcveety. Rory Dunne, Givney, Keating another few who played year before last. Buchanan was playing midfield last year and Michael argue another along with retirement Thomas corr. Jack Brady non commital in forwards. Prob missed a good few too. No sign of Johnson yet but giving we are going well in forwards maybe it would be a good time for him to retire too.

Joe Dillon another lad with ability and experience who would have big claims for a start. There's lots of lads not on panel with potential and some experience but who have never fully proved themselves or gotten a prolonged run. Maybe this is why so many people were flipping out at start of year because of non availables. But like has been said already, we're really only about 4 short who you could say should definitely be starting. Having said all that we have a very unproven bench if injuries start to pile up.

This is exactly it, our strength in depth has been shaken dramatically and that's being covered by the fact that we currently don't have a big injury list.
In 2016 in the League when we got promoted to Division 1 we brought on Jack Brady and Keating who got a couple of points each in the last 2 games when things were tight. Now we're bringing on young lads to see what they can do. That's why I think Johnston will have a part to play this year yet...

With the commitment required nowadays I think it's normal for lads to drop off unless your team is in with a realistic shot of a provincial title at least. Lads like Joe Dillon and Michael Argue couldn't break into the team and after being the main men underage and at club level all their lives it naturally compounds that problem and they decide the effort isn't worth the return.

Who'll pick up Harrison on Saturday night? Faulker I'd imagine?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 07, 2018, 08:15:24 PM
Has to be Faulkner on Harrison
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on March 07, 2018, 08:32:40 PM
Has to be Faulkner on Harrison

I'd put Murray on him.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 08, 2018, 06:45:44 PM
Roscommon team to play Clare.

James Featherston; Sean McDermott, John McManus, Peter Domican; Ronan Daly, David Murray, Niall Daly; Tadgh O'Rourke, Cathal Compton; Ciarain Murtagh, Niall Kilroy, Conor Devaney; Donie Smith, Ciaran Lennon, Diarmuid Murtagh

O Rourke,Compton,Donie Smith given starts. Conor Daly,Cathal Cregg and Enda Smith drop to the bench.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 08, 2018, 07:17:32 PM
Enda Smith is some sub to have..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Orchard park on March 08, 2018, 11:13:49 PM
Presume would be started if fit,

Hard to understanding Conor Daly not starting
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 09, 2018, 12:06:10 AM
Presume would be started if fit,

Hard to understanding Conor Daly not starting

I can see a case for Enda starting on the bench if he wants to see how TOR and Comp look, but given both won't have 70+ minutes in them we'll see Enda sooner or later. McStay is giving Lennon an extended run at FF (and ultimately that's good for the player and team), but if this was a championship match Enda would be starting at FF over him, at worst.

Given Conor was the universal man of the match against Louth, unless he's picked up a knock, I don't see where him dropping to the bench is coming from. Even if not at midfield he could play any position from 5-12.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 09, 2018, 09:05:49 AM
Enda and Conor have been dropped because Syfīn hasn't got a pet name for them.
Instead we get "Comp" and "TOR" .
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 09, 2018, 09:24:51 AM
Enda and Conor have been dropped because Syfīn hasn't got a pet name for them.
Instead we get "Comp" and "TOR" .

Or maybe they're too white and Catholic for ye.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 09, 2018, 09:59:35 AM
Enda Smith is some sub to have..

Greatest sub in the history of the GAA I think
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on March 09, 2018, 10:03:15 AM
Enda Smith is some sub to have..

Greatest sub in the history of the GAA I think
He will end up as Taoiseach probably
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 09, 2018, 10:24:19 AM
Enda and Conor have been dropped because Syfīn hasn't got a pet name for them.
Instead we get "Comp" and "TOR" .

Or maybe they're too white and Catholic for ye.

 :D ;D
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 09, 2018, 11:20:27 AM
Cork team to play Meath

1. Mark White (Clonakilty)

2. Kevin Flahive (Douglas)
3. Jamie O’Sullivan (Bishopstown)
4. Matthew Taylor (Mallow)

5. Kevin Crowley (Millstreet)
6. Brian O’Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
7. Tomás Clancy (Fermoy)

8. Ian Maguire (St Finbarr’s) Captain
9. Cillian O’Hanlon (Kilshannig)

10. Kevin O’Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
11. Sean White (Clonakilty)
12. Ruairi Deane (Bantry Blues)

13. John O’Rourke (Carbery Rangers)
14. Colm O’Neill (Ballyclough)
15. Mark Collins (Castlehaven)

Subs

16. Ryan Price (O’Donovan Rossa), 17. Sam Ryan (St Finbarr’s), 18. Micheal McSweeney (Newcestown), 19. Cian Kiely (Ballincollig), 20. Conor Dorman (Bishopstown), 21. Peter Kelleher (Kimichael), 22. Michael Hurley (Castlehaven), 23. Stephen Sherlock (St Finbarrs), 24. Donnacha O’Connor (Ballydesmond)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 09, 2018, 04:48:38 PM
Enda and Conor have been dropped because Syfīn hasn't got a pet name for them.
Instead we get "Comp" and "TOR" .

Or maybe they're too white and Catholic for ye.

 :D ;D

It's easy to make a simple man laugh.

Both Enda and Conor have knocks.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 09, 2018, 05:57:44 PM
Enda Smith is some sub to have..

Greatest sub in the history of the GAA I think

Have they started training yet?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 09, 2018, 06:11:11 PM
Enda Smith is some sub to have..

Greatest sub in the history of the GAA I think

Have they started training yet?

Galway certainly have.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on March 09, 2018, 07:25:45 PM
Cavan Team

1. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
2. Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels)
3. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
4. Conor Brady (Gowna)
5. Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
6. Ciaran Brady (Arvagh)
7. Enda Flanagan (Castlerahan)
8. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
9. Bryan Magee (Cuchulainns)
10. Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)
11. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
12. Oisin Kiernan (Castlerahan)
13. Niall Clerkin (Shercock)
14. Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar)
15. Caoimhin O’Reilly (Butlersbridge)

16. James Farrelly (Kingscourt)
17. Jack Wharton (Cornafean)
19. Stephen Murray (Cavan Gaels)
20. Sean McCormack (Ballyhaise)
21. Adrian Cole (Ramor United)
22. Conor Bradley (Ramor United)
23. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
24. Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels)
25. David Brady (Ballyhaise)
26. Darragh Kennedy (Killygarry)
27. Conor Madden (Gowna)
28. Ryan Connolly (Drumlane)
29. Paul Gilcreest (Lavey)
30. Ciaran Flynn (Cavan Gaels)

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 09, 2018, 07:42:13 PM
Well there's that lack of strength in depth we mentioned. Corner back making his first start. I would presume Murray, Phillips, Gunner are all injured. Pity, Phillips was playing very well.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on March 09, 2018, 07:45:07 PM
Well there's that lack of strength in depth we mentioned. Corner back making his first start. I would presume Murray, Phillips, Gunner are all injured. Pity, Phillips was playing very well.

Did Gunner not leave panel?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 09, 2018, 08:04:40 PM
Well there's that lack of strength in depth we mentioned. Corner back making his first start. I would presume Murray, Phillips, Gunner are all injured. Pity, Phillips was playing very well.

Did Gunner not leave panel?

No he's part of the panel but injured.

No Thomas Galligan in the subs either.

Was the Down side named yet?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: larryin89 on March 09, 2018, 08:06:13 PM
Just having a look around to familiarise myself for next year. Rossies goin up and mayo going down , syf will have a banner at the top of the town.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 09, 2018, 08:49:23 PM
Well there's that lack of strength in depth we mentioned. Corner back making his first start. I would presume Murray, Phillips, Gunner are all injured. Pity, Phillips was playing very well.

Did Gunner not leave panel?

No he's part of the panel but injured.

No Thomas Galligan in the subs either.

Was the Down side named yet?

The first that anybody will know of it will be when the Cavan GAA Twitter account tweets a photo of the squads from the programme tomorrow evening.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Targetman on March 09, 2018, 09:31:30 PM
Fecks sake its only 9.30 on Friday evening, you don’t expect the team to be named yet!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 09, 2018, 09:44:56 PM
Fecks sake its only 9.30 on Friday evening, you don’t expect the team to be named yet!

Most other counties generally release the team on a Thursday night for a Sunday match. These days we’re lucky if Down release it at all, until a few mins before throw in.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 09, 2018, 09:48:31 PM

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Horse Box on March 09, 2018, 10:18:04 PM



Gwan Tipp Boy 8) !
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Targetman on March 09, 2018, 11:44:48 PM
Fecks sake its only 9.30 on Friday evening, you don’t expect the team to be named yet!

Most other counties generally release the team on a Thursday night for a Sunday match. These days we’re lucky if Down release it at all, until a few mins before throw in.
Oh I agree, my post carried a sarcastic tone, a bug bear of mine re Down along with a few others that it’s too late to go into, anyway big test tomorrow evening!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 10, 2018, 11:57:36 AM
Fecks sake its only 9.30 on Friday evening, you don’t expect the team to be named yet!

Most other counties generally release the team on a Thursday night for a Sunday match. These days we’re lucky if Down release it at all, until a few mins before throw in.
Oh I agree, my post carried a sarcastic tone, a bug bear of mine re Down along with a few others that it’s too late to go into, anyway big test tomorrow evening!

Sorry, there's usually someone on the Down thread saying that it doesn't matter if a team isn't released, got a bit confused!

I'm not confident about tonight, but Down are capable of beating and losing to just about anyone on any given day, so it's hard to predict.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 10, 2018, 07:00:50 PM
4 changes to Down team from the programme  ::)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 10, 2018, 07:15:39 PM
15 mins gone Cavan 0-2 Down 0-3
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 10, 2018, 07:37:55 PM
Half time Cavan 0-6 Down 0-7
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 10, 2018, 08:12:59 PM
52 mins gone Cavan 0-11 Down 0-9. Down a bit wasteful, three goal chances created none taken.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 10, 2018, 08:23:08 PM
13 - 12 to cavan now
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 10, 2018, 08:23:27 PM
13 - 13
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 10, 2018, 08:26:14 PM
Sean Johnston just on the field puts Cavan back in front 0-14 to 0-13 4 mins to play.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 10, 2018, 08:36:33 PM
FT Cavan 0-17 Down 0-14. A hard earned win for Cavan and remain on course to make a quick return to div 1.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 10, 2018, 08:38:39 PM
FT Cavan 0-17 Down 0-14. A hard earned win for Cavan and remain on course to make a quick return to div 1.

1 win away from division 1 now
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 10, 2018, 08:46:49 PM
FT Cavan 0-17 Down 0-14. A hard earned win for Cavan and remain on course to make a quick return to div 1.

1 win away from division 1 now
Would one point from their remaining games be enough for Cavan to gain promotion?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 10, 2018, 08:58:30 PM
FT Cavan 0-17 Down 0-14. A hard earned win for Cavan and remain on course to make a quick return to div 1.

1 win away from division 1 now
Would one point from their remaining games be enough for Cavan to gain promotion?

not quite, because they have tipp and roscommon to play a draw with either of them and both teams winning the other games would mean it would come down to score difference, a draw would rule every other county out from passing them though. I think im correct in that anyway
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 10, 2018, 08:59:29 PM
FT Cavan 0-17 Down 0-14. A hard earned win for Cavan and remain on course to make a quick return to div 1.

1 win away from division 1 now
Would one point from their remaining games be enough for Cavan to gain promotion?

not quite, because they have tipp and roscommon to play a draw with either of them and both teams winning the other games would mean it would come down to score difference, a draw would rule every other county out from passing them though. I think im correct in that anyway

And they have to travel to the Hyde..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 10, 2018, 09:02:13 PM
FT Cavan 0-17 Down 0-14. A hard earned win for Cavan and remain on course to make a quick return to div 1.

1 win away from division 1 now
Would one point from their remaining games be enough for Cavan to gain promotion?

not quite, because they have tipp and roscommon to play a draw with either of them and both teams winning the other games would mean it would come down to score difference, a draw would rule every other county out from passing them though. I think im correct in that anyway

And they have to travel to the Hyde and Semple..

we are playing them in breffini.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 10, 2018, 09:02:43 PM
They earned that. 1 point should do us. Will likely all come down Cavan v Tipp in the last game in Breffni. Keeping the score down against Roscommon next week would help.

Cavan are at home for the last game
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 10, 2018, 09:06:23 PM
FT Cavan 0-17 Down 0-14. A hard earned win for Cavan and remain on course to make a quick return to div 1.

1 win away from division 1 now
Would one point from their remaining games be enough for Cavan to gain promotion?

not quite, because they have tipp and roscommon to play a draw with either of them and both teams winning the other games would mean it would come down to score difference, a draw would rule every other county out from passing them though. I think im correct in that anyway

And they have to travel to the Hyde and Semple..

we are playing them in breffini.

Syferus wrong again. Down and Meath who Cavan beat didn't lose in fortress Hyde park...
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 10, 2018, 09:08:11 PM
FT Cavan 0-17 Down 0-14. A hard earned win for Cavan and remain on course to make a quick return to div 1.

1 win away from division 1 now
Would one point from their remaining games be enough for Cavan to gain promotion?

not quite, because they have tipp and roscommon to play a draw with either of them and both teams winning the other games would mean it would come down to score difference, a draw would rule every other county out from passing them though. I think im correct in that anyway

And they have to travel to the Hyde and Semple..

we are playing them in breffini.

Syferus wrong again. Down and Meath who Cavan beat didn't lose in fortress Hyde park...

Cavan don’t win many games against Roscommon no matter where it’s played. I was nice enough not to point out your error thinking Cavan would be safe with one more point, though.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 10, 2018, 09:25:12 PM
FT Cavan 0-17 Down 0-14. A hard earned win for Cavan and remain on course to make a quick return to div 1.

1 win away from division 1 now
Would one point from their remaining games be enough for Cavan to gain promotion?

not quite, because they have tipp and roscommon to play a draw with either of them and both teams winning the other games would mean it would come down to score difference, a draw would rule every other county out from passing them though. I think im correct in that anyway

And they have to travel to the Hyde and Semple..

we are playing them in breffini.

Syferus wrong again. Down and Meath who Cavan beat didn't lose in fortress Hyde park...

Cavan don’t win many games against Roscommon no matter where it’s played. I was nice enough not to point out your error thinking Cavan would be safe with one more point, though.
I used a question mark and don't type up daft statements like you and then get all upset when you are proven wrong.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 10, 2018, 09:31:06 PM
FT Cavan 0-17 Down 0-14. A hard earned win for Cavan and remain on course to make a quick return to div 1.

1 win away from division 1 now
Would one point from their remaining games be enough for Cavan to gain promotion?

not quite, because they have tipp and roscommon to play a draw with either of them and both teams winning the other games would mean it would come down to score difference, a draw would rule every other county out from passing them though. I think im correct in that anyway

And they have to travel to the Hyde and Semple..

we are playing them in breffini.

Syferus wrong again. Down and Meath who Cavan beat didn't lose in fortress Hyde park...

Cavan don’t win many games against Roscommon no matter where it’s played. I was nice enough not to point out your error thinking Cavan would be safe with one more point, though.
I used a question mark and don't type up daft statements like you and then get all upset when you are proven wrong.

Congrats on using a question mark, I guess? :o
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: From the Bunker on March 10, 2018, 11:53:36 PM
If Tipp beat Louth Tomorrow they will give themselves a great chance of going up up! They will have Down and an already promoted Cavan  in their last game!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 11, 2018, 04:49:09 AM
If Tipp beat Louth Tomorrow they will give themselves a great chance of going up up! They will have Down and an already promoted Cavan  in their last game!

looking forward to Syferus reply to you writing off roscommon against cavan!!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 11, 2018, 09:27:22 AM
FT Cavan 0-17 Down 0-14. A hard earned win for Cavan and remain on course to make a quick return to div 1.

1 win away from division 1 now
Would one point from their remaining games be enough for Cavan to gain promotion?

not quite, because they have tipp and roscommon to play a draw with either of them and both teams winning the other games would mean it would come down to score difference, a draw would rule every other county out from passing them though. I think im correct in that anyway

And they have to travel to the Hyde and Semple..

we are playing them in breffini.

Syferus wrong again. Down and Meath who Cavan beat didn't lose in fortress Hyde park...
5 points -4 away and 1 at home doesn't inspire confidence.
Neither does having the biggest eejit on GAABOARD spouting sh1te 50 times a day.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 11, 2018, 01:08:21 PM
Tipp 2-9 Louth 0-3 ht
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 11, 2018, 02:18:14 PM
FT Cavan 0-17 Down 0-14. A hard earned win for Cavan and remain on course to make a quick return to div 1.

1 win away from division 1 now
Would one point from their remaining games be enough for Cavan to gain promotion?

not quite, because they have tipp and roscommon to play a draw with either of them and both teams winning the other games would mean it would come down to score difference, a draw would rule every other county out from passing them though. I think im correct in that anyway

And they have to travel to the Hyde and Semple..

we are playing them in breffini.

Syferus wrong again. Down and Meath who Cavan beat didn't lose in fortress Hyde park...
5 points -4 away and 1 at home doesn't inspire confidence.
Neither does having the biggest eejit on GAABOARD spouting sh1te 50 times a day.

How did you manage to capitalise every single letter in gaaboard when the site itself doesn’t even use punctuation?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 11, 2018, 02:52:34 PM
Poor Louth are becoming more of a shambles every week. Tipp now have the best score difference in Div 2.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 11, 2018, 02:54:14 PM
Poor Louth are becoming more of a shambles every week. Tipp now have the best score difference in Div 2.

We still have to play Cavan, so our scoring difference should improve.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 11, 2018, 03:18:12 PM
Six points from play from Donie Smith.. so far.

Red for Clare, Ros 4 up with 14 minutes left.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 11, 2018, 03:43:35 PM
Ros 2-19 Clare 2-12 FT.

Bring on the animals.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 11, 2018, 05:48:58 PM
Poor Louth are becoming more of a shambles every week. Tipp now have the best score difference in Div 2.

We still have to play Cavan, so our scoring difference should improve.

Congrats on falling over the line against 14 man Clare.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 11, 2018, 05:54:48 PM
Poor Louth are becoming more of a shambles every week. Tipp now have the best score difference in Div 2.

We still have to play Cavan, so our scoring difference should improve.

Congrats on falling over the line against 14 man Clare.

How many points did we win by again? I lost count.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 11, 2018, 06:08:48 PM
Syferus you are without doubt one of the most sickening doses on this board. Do you ever read back on the absolute shit you write. I feel sorry for the other Roscommon posters mostly.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 11, 2018, 06:13:45 PM
Syferus you are without doubt one of the most sickening doses on this board. Do you ever read back on the absolute shit you write. I feel sorry for the other Roscommon posters mostly.

So I guess we can take that as you saying you misread the scoreline..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 11, 2018, 06:14:03 PM
Poor Louth are becoming more of a shambles every week. Tipp now have the best score difference in Div 2.

We still have to play Cavan, so our scoring difference should improve.

Congrats on falling over the line against 14 man Clare.

How many points did we win by again? I lost count.

You can't count to 7? Not wholly surprising tbh.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 11, 2018, 06:24:54 PM
Poor Louth are becoming more of a shambles every week. Tipp now have the best score difference in Div 2.

We still have to play Cavan, so our scoring difference should improve.

Congrats on falling over the line against 14 man Clare.

How many points did we win by again? I lost count.

You can't count to 7? Not wholly surprising tbh.




Good luck on Sunday, Westside.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 11, 2018, 06:32:44 PM
Poor Louth are becoming more of a shambles every week. Tipp now have the best score difference in Div 2.

We still have to play Cavan, so our scoring difference should improve.

Congrats on falling over the line against 14 man Clare.

How many points did we win by again? I lost count.

You can't count to 7? Not wholly surprising tbh.




Good luck on Sunday, Westside.

Genuinely can't see us winning Sunday. Ros have too much firepower, that's always been the difference.  Usually good contests so hopefully we'll get that at least. Looking forward to see how Donie measures up against someone like Faulkner.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 11, 2018, 06:36:53 PM
Poor Louth are becoming more of a shambles every week. Tipp now have the best score difference in Div 2.

We still have to play Cavan, so our scoring difference should improve.

Congrats on falling over the line against 14 man Clare.

How many points did we win by again? I lost count.

You can't count to 7? Not wholly surprising tbh.




Good luck on Sunday, Westside.

Genuinely can't see us winning Sunday. Ros have too much firepower, that's always been the difference.  Usually good contests so hopefully we'll get that at least. Looking forward to see how Donie measures up against someone like Faulkner.

Dong worry, we’ll look like we’re home and hosed and then concede two goals in two minutes. Kick of a ball will all that’s going to be in it.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 11, 2018, 07:00:53 PM
Syferus you are without doubt one of the most sickening doses on this board. Do you ever read back on the absolute shit you write. I feel sorry for the other Roscommon posters mostly.

+1

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on March 11, 2018, 07:24:34 PM
Meath are on a very shaky scraw. They were in d3 not so long ago.

https://youtu.be/KUmZp8pR1uc
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: SHEEDY on March 11, 2018, 08:06:45 PM
the bad news for down is that meath and clare still have to play louth, that should be 2 points for them which would leave down in big trouble. can see us struggling against tipp next week then we have a possible relegation match in navan.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Ringfort on March 11, 2018, 08:13:54 PM
Syferus, you need to take a break from the Internet. Take up a totally new hobby or something. You first surfaced a few years ago as an ovely enthusiastic but naive Roscommon fanatic. You've taken a fair bit of flak over the years and you now come across as a fairly bitter and entrenched know it all, whose lack of genuine knowledge is stark on many occasions. Take a break from this shite lad, for your own good.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 11, 2018, 08:15:16 PM
Meath are on a very shaky scraw. They were in d3 not so long ago.

https://youtu.be/KUmZp8pR1uc
Real battle down there now. I think down will get out of it and it will be Clare or Meath going down. Clare are very I'll disciplined and getting red cards in games is common for them. That could be their big weakness when the pressure comes on.
The top is intriguing. Although cavan have the advantage of a 2 point lead I think their best chance to go up is next weekend against a Roscommon team that have inconsistent so far. Tipp are a fine team and it would be good to see them test themselves in div 1 next year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 11, 2018, 08:16:36 PM
Syferus, you need to take a break from the Internet. Take up a totally new hobby or something. You first surfaced a few years ago as an ovely enthusiastic but naive Roscommon fanatic. You've taken a fair bit of flak over the years and you now come across as a fairly bitter and entrenched know it all, whose lack of genuine knowledge is stark on many occasions. Take a break from this shite lad, for your own good.

I think I might decide not to take life advice from an anonymous poster on a message board, thanks all the same though.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 11, 2018, 08:20:42 PM
the bad news for down is that meath and clare still have to play louth, that should be 2 points for them which would leave down in big trouble. can see us struggling against tipp next week then we have a possible relegation match in navan.

I have a funny feeling we will beat Tipp. Meath will beat Louth though to leave it all to play for on the last day for Down.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 11, 2018, 09:21:17 PM
We once more mixed the sublime (points by Donie, goal by Cregger) and the ridiculous (Clare's 2 goals, wide open defence, no marking etc) plus sideways and backwards silly throwball.
Still good to win it and get a game of it too.
The real Promotion campaign starts now.
Bring it on .

Also can I endorse Ringforts comments regarding our fellow county lúdramán.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: thejuice on March 11, 2018, 11:37:33 PM
Ah well, for a team that were being primed for promotion since October it says a lot about our team if that’s what we are amounting to now. I was quite pessimistic at the start of the year due to lads walking away and I think that pessimism is well founded. I don’t think we have a better qualified manager in the county than Andy but we’ve had over 8 years now of stagnation and if any good is going to come from this is that people will stop thinking that replacing the manager will make a difference. It won’t.

Graham Reilly aside we have a team that is definitely of Division 2 quality. Just about. I don’t think we’ll be relegated but we are walking wounded and Louth will be motivated to take us down with them. We have the talent to win the last two games but the lads will need to wipe the slate clean for the next two weeks and just focus on winning. Our forward lines have been very ineffective.

Whether we stay up or go down we as a county are not going to contend for any serious silverware outside of the O’Byrne Cup or Division 3 till probably around 2022 at the earliest by all indications.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 11, 2018, 11:45:54 PM
Mattie says we are going to Hyde park next week to have the craic. Sounds good.

http://www.northernsound.ie/destiny-hands-says-mattie-mcgleenan/
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on March 12, 2018, 12:27:06 PM
Ah well, for a team that were being primed for promotion since October it says a lot about our team if that’s what we are amounting to now. I was quite pessimistic at the start of the year due to lads walking away and I think that pessimism is well founded. I don’t think we have a better qualified manager in the county than Andy but we’ve had over 8 years now of stagnation and if any good is going to come from this is that people will stop thinking that replacing the manager will make a difference. It won’t.

Graham Reilly aside we have a team that is definitely of Division 2 quality. Just about. I don’t think we’ll be relegated but we are walking wounded and Louth will be motivated to take us down with them. We have the talent to win the last two games but the lads will need to wipe the slate clean for the next two weeks and just focus on winning. Our forward lines have been very ineffective.

Whether we stay up or go down we as a county are not going to contend for any serious silverware outside of the O’Byrne Cup or Division 3 till probably around 2022 at the earliest by all indications.
Both Meath and Kildare have had a bad league which is not ideal in terms of the Leinster. championship.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 12, 2018, 01:28:18 PM
Can't wait for next year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on March 12, 2018, 10:10:16 PM
Ah well, for a team that were being primed for promotion since October it says a lot about our team if that’s what we are amounting to now. I was quite pessimistic at the start of the year due to lads walking away and I think that pessimism is well founded. I don’t think we have a better qualified manager in the county than Andy but we’ve had over 8 years now of stagnation and if any good is going to come from this is that people will stop thinking that replacing the manager will make a difference. It won’t.

Graham Reilly aside we have a team that is definitely of Division 2 quality. Just about. I don’t think we’ll be relegated but we are walking wounded and Louth will be motivated to take us down with them. We have the talent to win the last two games but the lads will need to wipe the slate clean for the next two weeks and just focus on winning. Our forward lines have been very ineffective.

Whether we stay up or go down we as a county are not going to contend for any serious silverware outside of the O’Byrne Cup or Division 3 till probably around 2022 at the earliest by all indications.
Both Meath and Kildare have had a bad league which is not ideal in terms of the Leinster. championship.

Yeah, I had high hopes for the Leinster championship.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 12, 2018, 10:52:23 PM
Ah well, for a team that were being primed for promotion since October it says a lot about our team if that’s what we are amounting to now. I was quite pessimistic at the start of the year due to lads walking away and I think that pessimism is well founded. I don’t think we have a better qualified manager in the county than Andy but we’ve had over 8 years now of stagnation and if any good is going to come from this is that people will stop thinking that replacing the manager will make a difference. It won’t.

Graham Reilly aside we have a team that is definitely of Division 2 quality. Just about. I don’t think we’ll be relegated but we are walking wounded and Louth will be motivated to take us down with them. We have the talent to win the last two games but the lads will need to wipe the slate clean for the next two weeks and just focus on winning. Our forward lines have been very ineffective.

Whether we stay up or go down we as a county are not going to contend for any serious silverware outside of the O’Byrne Cup or Division 3 till probably around 2022 at the earliest by all indications.
Both Meath and Kildare have had a bad league which is not ideal in terms of the Leinster. championship.
slipping further and further off Dublin if you ask me

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 12, 2018, 11:15:02 PM
Ah well, for a team that were being primed for promotion since October it says a lot about our team if that’s what we are amounting to now. I was quite pessimistic at the start of the year due to lads walking away and I think that pessimism is well founded. I don’t think we have a better qualified manager in the county than Andy but we’ve had over 8 years now of stagnation and if any good is going to come from this is that people will stop thinking that replacing the manager will make a difference. It won’t.

Graham Reilly aside we have a team that is definitely of Division 2 quality. Just about. I don’t think we’ll be relegated but we are walking wounded and Louth will be motivated to take us down with them. We have the talent to win the last two games but the lads will need to wipe the slate clean for the next two weeks and just focus on winning. Our forward lines have been very ineffective.

Whether we stay up or go down we as a county are not going to contend for any serious silverware outside of the O’Byrne Cup or Division 3 till probably around 2022 at the earliest by all indications.
Both Meath and Kildare have had a bad league which is not ideal in terms of the Leinster. championship.
slipping further and further off Dublin if you ask me

It is hard to believe how bad Meath are. Big county with a big population and a growing population. To me it stinks of a total mismanagement by county board in terms of harnessing that population.Its almost sad to see it happening, almost ;)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 12, 2018, 11:30:30 PM
You can't have a good team with grassy banks ;D
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: armaghniac on March 13, 2018, 12:01:58 AM
You can't have a good team with grassy banks ;D

Grassy slopes are traditional by the Boyne.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 13, 2018, 12:03:16 AM
History like Meath football. .....
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 13, 2018, 01:25:37 AM
Whether we stay up or go down we as a county are not going to contend for any serious silverware outside of the O’Byrne Cup or Division 3 till probably around 2022 at the earliest by all indications.

I think it'd actually serve Meath better to go down and rebuild for a few years. There'd be a trampoline effect and reorienting from dropping out of the limelight and mixing it with teams that are unlikely to put big beatings on you like Longford, Fermanagh, Carlow and maybe Westmeath. After a few years of ambition that matches ability, then you can come back up and be competitive and in the hunt for Division 1, like Cavan did after similar years spent putting in the foundation stones. Like Itchy says, it's something of a conundrum how a county like Meath has let things disintegrate to this degree.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: CJ2017 on March 13, 2018, 04:17:25 AM
Fair comment Itchy about harnessing the population,
If you compare to Mayo,

Meath Population 194,942
Mayo Population 130,425

Year Ended 2017,

Meath : Commercial Income + Fund Raising 
€399,654 + €329093 = €728,747

Mayo : Commercial Income + Fund Raising
€549,000 + €921,249 = €1,470,249 million

Interestingly Mayo’s total income was €3,333,824 for the year!
I can’t seem to find any of Meath's full financial statements online.
Anyone have a link?

Sources –
http://hoganstand.com/Meath/Article/Index/278849
http://mayogaa.com/content_page/18068/

Is there a Commerical Manager for Meath similar to that of Tomas Quinn of Dublin GAA?
I see Wexford were advertising for one, a lot of talk of one for Mayo etc,
http://www.wexfordgaa.ie/2017/12/exciting-job-opportunity-wexford-gaa-new-post-commercial-manager/
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 13, 2018, 08:10:21 AM
Meath hurling has improved

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Look-Up! on March 13, 2018, 09:54:58 AM

It is hard to believe how bad Meath are. Big county with a big population and a growing population. To me it stinks of a total mismanagement by county board in terms of harnessing that population.Its almost sad to see it happening, almost ;)

Leinster populations in general have snowballed over the last 20 years or so but apart from Dublin there has been little progress elsewhere football wise in Leinster counties. Has rugby or soccer badly effected GAA participation in those counties? I'm not going off any stats but I'd imagine rugby has become increasingly popular in Meath. Also for a county with many big towns their club scene is nothing to write home about. Rugby clubs tend to have a better organised playing schedule than GAA and a much more structured training regime which may appeal better to younger sports people. Maybe the GAA has dropped the ball a bit in Leinster and over invested in Dublin GAA?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Kurtz on March 13, 2018, 10:03:12 AM

It is hard to believe how bad Meath are. Big county with a big population and a growing population. To me it stinks of a total mismanagement by county board in terms of harnessing that population.Its almost sad to see it happening, almost ;)

Leinster populations in general have snowballed over the last 20 years or so but apart from Dublin there has been little progress elsewhere football wise in Leinster counties. Has rugby or soccer badly effected GAA participation in those counties? I'm not going off any stats but I'd imagine rugby has become increasingly popular in Meath. Also for a county with many big towns their club scene is nothing to write home about. Rugby clubs tend to have a better organised playing schedule than GAA and a much more structured training regime which may appeal better to younger sports people. Maybe the GAA has dropped the ball a bit in Leinster and over invested in Dublin GAA?

I have friends in Meath who are big GAA fans
All of their kids play Rugby
of course this is just people I know but it gives you an idea
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 13, 2018, 10:17:23 AM
The snowballing of Leinster's population would be mainly in Louth Meath Wicklow and Kildare I suspect?
About 725k in those Counties now and a much higher number under 30 than the national average.
I suspect the GAA clubs have the same number of volunteers and structure as they had before the big increases in population?
Definitely time the "GAA needs successful Leinster Counties".
As for the rest of us.......... .
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on March 13, 2018, 10:24:41 AM
There's just so much more to do in Meath compared to most other counties.
We have a vibrant visual and performing arts scene and there is a resurgence in the popularity of musical theatre, which had been banned until recently.
Kids have lots of choices nowadays.
Compare this with Mayo, where it's a choice between football and picking rocks out of a field to boil for your dinner; or Cavan, where it's a choice between football and arguing with disobedient farm animals.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Look-Up! on March 13, 2018, 11:23:05 AM
There's just so much more to do in Meath compared to most other counties.
We have a vibrant visual and performing arts scene and there is a resurgence in the popularity of musical theatre, which had been banned until recently.
Kids have lots of choices nowadays.
Compare this with Mayo, where it's a choice between football and picking rocks out of a field to boil for your dinner; or Cavan, where it's a choice between football and arguing with disobedient farm animals.

And there's Bettystown. Don't forget Bettystown.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Aristo 60 on March 13, 2018, 11:28:04 AM
There's just so much more to do in Meath compared to most other counties.
We have a vibrant visual and performing arts scene and there is a resurgence in the popularity of musical theatre, which had been banned until recently.
Kids have lots of choices nowadays.
Compare this with Mayo, where it's a choice between football and picking rocks out of a field to boil for your dinner; or Cavan, where it's a choice between football and arguing with disobedient farm animals.

I argued with a crazy aul goat in Breffni on Saturday night !
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Look-Up! on March 13, 2018, 11:32:36 AM

It is hard to believe how bad Meath are. Big county with a big population and a growing population. To me it stinks of a total mismanagement by county board in terms of harnessing that population.Its almost sad to see it happening, almost ;)

Leinster populations in general have snowballed over the last 20 years or so but apart from Dublin there has been little progress elsewhere football wise in Leinster counties. Has rugby or soccer badly effected GAA participation in those counties? I'm not going off any stats but I'd imagine rugby has become increasingly popular in Meath. Also for a county with many big towns their club scene is nothing to write home about. Rugby clubs tend to have a better organised playing schedule than GAA and a much more structured training regime which may appeal better to younger sports people. Maybe the GAA has dropped the ball a bit in Leinster and over invested in Dublin GAA?

I have friends in Meath who are big GAA fans
All of their kids play Rugby
of course this is just people I know but it gives you an idea

Out of interest are they still in the area they grew up in? Affiliation is a big thing in the GAA and club can be a big part of the family and community. With mass movement of people and a big influx of population into a certain area that affiliation can be gone. People new to the area might be apathetic to the GAA club and not particularly bothered on their kids joining. They would more likely just be glad to see their kids playing a sport (any sport) and leading healthy lives with a good network of friends. There could be more of a need for a proactive recruitment drive from GAA clubs in order to avail of these new numbers. But PR requires money and resources that may not be available. Maybe affiliation is so ingrained in the GAA it has made it lazy and complacent?   
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on March 13, 2018, 11:38:22 AM
Look, lets not beat around the bush here.
We all know the Dubs are to blame.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 13, 2018, 11:39:35 AM
Once a towns population rises over a certain figure set up a new club based on the new housing estates.
Youngsters will grow up with it being their club.
Established clubs run by oul bucks suspicious of blow ins aren't the most welcoming of places.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on March 13, 2018, 11:47:53 AM
There's just so much more to do in Meath compared to most other counties.
We have a vibrant visual and performing arts scene and there is a resurgence in the popularity of musical theatre, which had been banned until recently.
Kids have lots of choices nowadays.
Compare this with Mayo, where it's a choice between football and picking rocks out of a field to boil for your dinner; or Cavan, where it's a choice between football and arguing with disobedient farm animals.

And there's Bettystown. Don't forget Bettystown.


Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Look-Up! on March 13, 2018, 11:50:14 AM
Once a towns population rises over a certain figure set up a new club based on the new housing estates.
Youngsters will grow up with it being their club.
Established clubs run by oul bucks suspicious of blow ins aren't the most welcoming of places.

Huge capital investment would be needed in that scenario. Even if capital was available I don't think more clubs are needed. Improving what we have would be the way to go. Changing our approach and as you said changing attitudes.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Look-Up! on March 13, 2018, 11:56:03 AM
There's just so much more to do in Meath compared to most other counties.
We have a vibrant visual and performing arts scene and there is a resurgence in the popularity of musical theatre, which had been banned until recently.
Kids have lots of choices nowadays.
Compare this with Mayo, where it's a choice between football and picking rocks out of a field to boil for your dinner; or Cavan, where it's a choice between football and arguing with disobedient farm animals.

And there's Bettystown. Don't forget Bettystown.




There's quite a bit of the green and red in that photo. Blowins?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 13, 2018, 11:56:20 AM
There's just so much more to do in Meath compared to most other counties.
We have a vibrant visual and performing arts scene and there is a resurgence in the popularity of musical theatre, which had been banned until recently.
Kids have lots of choices nowadays.
Compare this with Mayo, where it's a choice between football and picking rocks out of a field to boil for your dinner; or Cavan, where it's a choice between football and arguing with disobedient farm animals.

I argued with a crazy aul goat in Breffni on Saturday night !

If you stopped trying to mount the goat she wouldnt argue with you.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Kurtz on March 13, 2018, 12:01:10 PM

It is hard to believe how bad Meath are. Big county with a big population and a growing population. To me it stinks of a total mismanagement by county board in terms of harnessing that population.Its almost sad to see it happening, almost ;)

Leinster populations in general have snowballed over the last 20 years or so but apart from Dublin there has been little progress elsewhere football wise in Leinster counties. Has rugby or soccer badly effected GAA participation in those counties? I'm not going off any stats but I'd imagine rugby has become increasingly popular in Meath. Also for a county with many big towns their club scene is nothing to write home about. Rugby clubs tend to have a better organised playing schedule than GAA and a much more structured training regime which may appeal better to younger sports people. Maybe the GAA has dropped the ball a bit in Leinster and over invested in Dublin GAA?

I have friends in Meath who are big GAA fans
All of their kids play Rugby
of course this is just people I know but it gives you an idea

Out of interest are they still in the area they grew up in? Affiliation is a big thing in the GAA and club can be a big part of the family and community. With mass movement of people and a big influx of population into a certain area that affiliation can be gone. People new to the area might be apathetic to the GAA club and not particularly bothered on their kids joining. They would more likely just be glad to see their kids playing a sport (any sport) and leading healthy lives with a good network of friends. There could be more of a need for a proactive recruitment drive from GAA clubs in order to avail of these new numbers. But PR requires money and resources that may not be available. Maybe affiliation is so ingrained in the GAA it has made it lazy and complacent?

Some are native Meath (Nobber and Ashbourne).
Others are blowins from the West and Dublin
They would have settled in late 90's
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 15, 2018, 06:42:09 PM
The Roscommon team to play Cavan. John McManus ruled out through injury and the experienced Sean McDermott drops to the bench.

James Fetherstone (Roscommon Gaels)
David Murray (Padraig Pearses)
Peter Domican (St Brigids)
Fergal Lennon (Clann na nGael)
Ronan Daly (Padraig Pearses)
Brian Stack (St Brigids)
Niall Daly (Padraig Pearses)
Tadhg O Rourke (Tulsk)
Cathal Compton (Strokestown)
Ciarain Murtagh (St Faithleachs)
Niall Kilroy (Fuerty)
Conor Devaney (Kilbride)
Donie Smith (Boyle)
Ciaran Lennon (Clann na nGael)
Diarmuid Murtagh (St Faithleachs)

Subs
Colm Lavin (Eire Og)
Cathal Cregg (Western Gaels)
Conor Daly (Padraig Pearses)
Enda Smith (Boyle)
Fintan Cregg (Elphin)
Ian Kilbride (St Brigids)
Philip Neilan (Furety)
Sean McDermott (Western Gaels)
Shane Killoran (Elphin)
Tadgh McKenna (Boyle)
Ultan Harney (Clann na nGael)

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: An Watcher on March 15, 2018, 07:50:30 PM
Cavan a decent price for this?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 15, 2018, 07:52:06 PM
Strong lineup. Bench is filled with players who have given Cavan nightmares in the past too..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 15, 2018, 08:00:21 PM
Cavan a decent price for this?
Good value odds when you consider the rossies only drew with Meath and lost to Down in Hyde Park two sides that Cavan beat this year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 15, 2018, 08:07:09 PM
Cavan a decent price for this?
Good value odds when you consider the rossies only drew with Meath and lost to Down in Hyde Park two sides that Cavan beat this year.

"The Fortress Hyde Park" you mean?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 15, 2018, 09:39:07 PM
It's hard to come up with any persuasive reasons why Cavan would win this game. The best we've managed from them recently in a game that matters is a draw in 2015 in the first round.

Cavan have mounting injury worries and Down could and maybe should have won the game last week.

Rossies by 4+ and all Cavan hopes to lie on the Tipp game
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 15, 2018, 09:48:03 PM
It's hard to come up with any persuasive reasons why Cavan would win this game. The best we've managed from them recently in a game that matters is a draw in 2015 in the first round.

Cavan have mounting injury worries and Down could and maybe should have won the game last week.

Rossies by 4+ and all Cavan hopes to lie on the Tipp game

Maybe but part of me wonders are cavan a bit further on fitness wise. Ros will be aiming for a later start in connacht cavan into battle but earlier. Killian Clarke may be missing so I'd say if he's fit cavan might sneak it but if not Ross will win it. We owe them a defeat and that bookies price is extremely generous and over rates Ros on current form.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 15, 2018, 09:55:44 PM
It's hard to come up with any persuasive reasons why Cavan would win this game. The best we've managed from them recently in a game that matters is a draw in 2015 in the first round.

Cavan have mounting injury worries and Down could and maybe should have won the game last week.

Rossies by 4+ and all Cavan hopes to lie on the Tipp game

Maybe but part of me wonders are cavan a bit further on fitness wise. Ros will be aiming for a later start in connacht cavan into battle but earlier. Killian Clarke may be missing so I'd say if he's fit cavan might sneak it but if not Ross will win it. We owe them a defeat and that bookies price is extremely generous and over rates Ros on current form.

Roscommon have lost two competitive matches since we last met 12 months ago, and one was to Mayo..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on March 15, 2018, 10:06:46 PM
Fall Out from Clare Tipp continues. Clare have produced a video which shows Gordon Kelly did not spit on umpire. CHC refused to allow video as evidence in an appeal as it's not from an independent broadcaster.  This spares the GAA blushes for now.

However, it does open up an issue for them. This video does not suggest the "we are all human and make mistakes" twaddle we normally get but a case of flagrant falsehood reported by officials on the day.  If Gordon and Clare manage to prove this at the DRA what action will we see from the GAA?

/Jim.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 15, 2018, 10:13:52 PM
It's hard to come up with any persuasive reasons why Cavan would win this game. The best we've managed from them recently in a game that matters is a draw in 2015 in the first round.

Cavan have mounting injury worries and Down could and maybe should have won the game last week.

Rossies by 4+ and all Cavan hopes to lie on the Tipp game

Maybe but part of me wonders are cavan a bit further on fitness wise. Ros will be aiming for a later start in connacht cavan into battle but earlier. Killian Clarke may be missing so I'd say if he's fit cavan might sneak it but if not Ross will win it. We owe them a defeat and that bookies price is extremely generous and over rates Ros on current form.

Roscommon have lost two competitive matches since we last met 12 months ago, and one was to Mayo..

Look I know you think Ros will win every game, are unbeatable and all thst without bothering to train. However, Ye drew with a brutal Meath team, needed an extra man to best Clare and lost to Down. You are not a super power of GAA. You may win Sunday but you are playing a team 2 pts ahead of you and unbeaten in 5 so it reasonable position to think it could be tight either way.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 15, 2018, 10:15:27 PM
It's hard to come up with any persuasive reasons why Cavan would win this game. The best we've managed from them recently in a game that matters is a draw in 2015 in the first round.

Cavan have mounting injury worries and Down could and maybe should have won the game last week.

Rossies by 4+ and all Cavan hopes to lie on the Tipp game

Maybe but part of me wonders are cavan a bit further on fitness wise. Ros will be aiming for a later start in connacht cavan into battle but earlier. Killian Clarke may be missing so I'd say if he's fit cavan might sneak it but if not Ross will win it. We owe them a defeat and that bookies price is extremely generous and over rates Ros on current form.

Roscommon have lost two competitive matches since we last met 12 months ago, and one was to Mayo..

Roscommon have lost to Mayo, Clare and Down if I'm right?

Cavan have lost to Monaghan and Tipperary.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 15, 2018, 10:21:52 PM
It's hard to come up with any persuasive reasons why Cavan would win this game. The best we've managed from them recently in a game that matters is a draw in 2015 in the first round.

Cavan have mounting injury worries and Down could and maybe should have won the game last week.

Rossies by 4+ and all Cavan hopes to lie on the Tipp game

Maybe but part of me wonders are cavan a bit further on fitness wise. Ros will be aiming for a later start in connacht cavan into battle but earlier. Killian Clarke may be missing so I'd say if he's fit cavan might sneak it but if not Ross will win it. We owe them a defeat and that bookies price is extremely generous and over rates Ros on current form.

Killian is a huge loss. He's part of that core group of players that our success relies so heavily upon.

I know there's not been much in it between us but to be fair to them, they've fully deserved all their victories against us in the recent past. I know it's easy to feel like we 'owe them one' but I don't think it generally plays out like this. The better team will win most games these days. Looking at the team sheets and in particular the firepower and the benches on each, Roscommon are a good bit ahead IMO.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 15, 2018, 10:37:29 PM
It's hard to come up with any persuasive reasons why Cavan would win this game. The best we've managed from them recently in a game that matters is a draw in 2015 in the first round.

Cavan have mounting injury worries and Down could and maybe should have won the game last week.

Rossies by 4+ and all Cavan hopes to lie on the Tipp game

Maybe but part of me wonders are cavan a bit further on fitness wise. Ros will be aiming for a later start in connacht cavan into battle but earlier. Killian Clarke may be missing so I'd say if he's fit cavan might sneak it but if not Ross will win it. We owe them a defeat and that bookies price is extremely generous and over rates Ros on current form.

Roscommon have lost two competitive matches since we last met 12 months ago, and one was to Mayo..

Roscommon have lost to Mayo, Clare and Down if I'm right?

Cavan have lost to Monaghan and Tipperary.

Roscommon beat Clare by seven in Ennis last Sunday, Westside. We drew with Meath in the first round.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 15, 2018, 10:50:43 PM
Fall Out from Clare Tipp continues. Clare have produced a video which shows Gordon Kelly did not spit on umpire. CHC refused to allow video as evidence in an appeal as it's not from an independent broadcaster.  This spares the GAA blushes for now.

However, it does open up an issue for them. This video does not suggest the "we are all human and make mistakes" twaddle we normally get but a case of flagrant falsehood reported by officials on the day.  If Gordon and Clare manage to prove this at the DRA what action will we see from the GAA?

/Jim.
The offense was squirting a water bottle at an official not spitting. Clare manager Colm Collins reckoned he was just cleaning out the water bottle.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on March 15, 2018, 10:54:02 PM
Fall Out from Clare Tipp continues. Clare have produced a video which shows Gordon Kelly did not spit on umpire. CHC refused to allow video as evidence in an appeal as it's not from an independent broadcaster.  This spares the GAA blushes for now.

However, it does open up an issue for them. This video does not suggest the "we are all human and make mistakes" twaddle we normally get but a case of flagrant falsehood reported by officials on the day.  If Gordon and Clare manage to prove this at the DRA what action will we see from the GAA?

/Jim.
The offense was squirting a water bottle at an official not spitting. Clare manager Colm Collins reckoned he was just cleaning out the water bottle.

The video shows him squirting out water, before umpire arrives on the scene.

/Jim.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 15, 2018, 11:31:46 PM
It's hard to come up with any persuasive reasons why Cavan would win this game. The best we've managed from them recently in a game that matters is a draw in 2015 in the first round.

Cavan have mounting injury worries and Down could and maybe should have won the game last week.

Rossies by 4+ and all Cavan hopes to lie on the Tipp game

Maybe but part of me wonders are cavan a bit further on fitness wise. Ros will be aiming for a later start in connacht cavan into battle but earlier. Killian Clarke may be missing so I'd say if he's fit cavan might sneak it but if not Ross will win it. We owe them a defeat and that bookies price is extremely generous and over rates Ros on current form.

Killian is a huge loss. He's part of that core group of players that our success relies so heavily upon.

I know there's not been much in it between us but to be fair to them, they've fully deserved all their victories against us in the recent past. I know it's easy to feel like we 'owe them one' but I don't think it generally plays out like this. The better team will win most games these days. Looking at the team sheets and in particular the firepower and the benches on each, Roscommon are a good bit ahead IMO.

They certainly have better forwards but I think we are better around the middle and I don't believe they can match gearoid, Mackey, clarke and mcvitty in that area. We are also a bit healthier in the forwards than last year and certainly playing with a more attack minded approach. Our ultra negative approach is what cost us last year. Personally I think Tipp are a better team and i would be worried if we lost to Ros and needed to do it against Tipp. However if Clarke is out that would certainly tip the scales towards Ros. It should be a fascinating game.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 16, 2018, 12:02:45 AM
Cork team to play Clare. Two changes Peter Kelleher and Michael Hurley come in for Sean White and Ruairi Deane. The game is live on Eir sports Saturday night.

1. Mark White (Clonakilty)

2. Sam Ryan (St Finbarrs)
3. Jamie O Sullivan (Bishopstown)
4. Kevin Crowley (Millstreet)

5. Matthew Taylor (Mallow)
6. Kevin Flahive (Douglas)
7. Tomas Clancy (Fermoy)

8. Ian Maguire (St Finbarrs) (captain)
9. Cillian O Hanlon (Kilshannig)

10. Kevin O Driscoll (Tadhg MacCarthaigh)
11. Mark Collins (Castlehaven)
12. Peter Kelleher (Kimichael)

13. John O Rourke (Carbery Rangers)
14. Colm O Neill (Ballyclough)
15. Michael Hurley (Castlehaven)

Subs

16. Ryan Price (O Donovan Rossa)
17. Sean Wilson (Douglas)
18. Micheal McSweeney (Newcestown)
19. Cian Kiely (Ballincollig)
20. Daniel O Callaghan (Clyda Rovers)
21. Cian Dorgan (Ballincollig)
22. Stephen Sherlock (St Finbarrs)
23. Donnacha O Connor (Ballydesmond)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 16, 2018, 12:06:27 AM
Great to see another clash of traditional rural Counties where Gaelic football is a part of what we are rather than some bandwagon to be jumped on when the going is good.
Will be the biggest crowd of the year in Division 2.
If we lose we're more than likely gone unless Down and Clare upset the odds which is unlikely.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 16, 2018, 07:21:30 AM
Great to see another clash of traditional rural Counties where Gaelic football is a part of what we are rather than some bandwagon to be jumped on when the going is good.
Will be the biggest crowd of the year in Division 2.
If we lose we're more than likely gone unless Down and Clare upset the odds which is unlikely.

You'd be doing well to beat the 16,000 at tipp cork game in puc, we even had 6700 at tipp Louth last sunday ;)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Smurfy123 on March 16, 2018, 07:37:27 AM
What are Tipp playing like these days?
With the exception of Quinlivan I would not know anyone else on the team.
Whats your thoughts on the naming of teams a few days before the game?Jesus ours does not get released until 20 minutes pre match.
Annoying!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 16, 2018, 08:00:47 AM
What are Tipp playing like these days?
With the exception of Quinlivan I would not know anyone else on the team.
Whats your thoughts on the naming of teams a few days before the game?Jesus ours does not get released until 20 minutes pre match.
Annoying!

Playing aswell as we have in any league I remember. We have a good panel now with options to come on rather than a bare 15 like when we got to the semi. Very wary of this game, ye seem to be losing games ye should be winning and worrying this will be the weekend it will all come right. We used to be like that but we are this year releasing them at a consistent time and small things like that make it feel like we are taking the football more seriously even if it is a nothing thing really
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 16, 2018, 08:52:08 AM
Great to see another clash of traditional rural Counties where Gaelic football is a part of what we are rather than some bandwagon to be jumped on when the going is good.
Will be the biggest crowd of the year in Division 2.
If we lose we're more than likely gone unless Down and Clare upset the odds which is unlikely.

You'd be doing well to beat the 16,000 at tipp cork game in puc, we even had 6700 at tipp Louth last sunday ;)
How many of them sullied their eyes by looking at the football?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on March 16, 2018, 09:19:41 AM
What are Tipp playing like these days?
With the exception of Quinlivan I would not know anyone else on the team.
Whats your thoughts on the naming of teams a few days before the game?Jesus ours does not get released until 20 minutes pre match.
Annoying!

You don't know Sweeney, Maher, O Brien, Fox, Comerford etc.... Some knowledge.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: johnnycool on March 16, 2018, 10:00:38 AM
Great to see another clash of traditional rural Counties where Gaelic football is a part of what we are rather than some bandwagon to be jumped on when the going is good.
Will be the biggest crowd of the year in Division 2.
If we lose we're more than likely gone unless Down and Clare upset the odds which is unlikely.

You'd be doing well to beat the 16,000 at tipp cork game in puc, we even had 6700 at tipp Louth last sunday ;)
How many of them sullied their eyes by looking at the football?

Never watch a football game before you go out to play hurling, it slows your reflexes.

(C) Christy Ring.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 16, 2018, 10:58:07 AM
Great to see another clash of traditional rural Counties where Gaelic football is a part of what we are rather than some bandwagon to be jumped on when the going is good.
Will be the biggest crowd of the year in Division 2.
If we lose we're more than likely gone unless Down and Clare upset the odds which is unlikely.

You'd be doing well to beat the 16,000 at tipp cork game in puc, we even had 6700 at tipp Louth last sunday ;)
How many of them sullied their eyes by looking at the football?

Ah sure maybe 100, possibly 200 wouldn't have bother with the football and were only there for that auld hurling stuff!!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Smurfy123 on March 16, 2018, 12:14:37 PM
Mr Deeds  no I don’t know any of the above.I wouldn’t be a big following of Tipp footballers
Would you know many Down players may I ask
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: johnnycool on March 16, 2018, 12:22:43 PM
Mr Deeds  no I don’t know any of the above.I wouldn’t be a big following of Tipp footballers
Would you know many Down players may I ask

A lot of Down fans don't know many of the Down team the way things are going..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Smurfy123 on March 16, 2018, 12:37:48 PM
😂😂😂
Good point johnycool
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on March 16, 2018, 12:59:37 PM
Mr Deeds  no I don’t know any of the above.I wouldn’t be a big following of Tipp footballers
Would you know many Down players may I ask

Sorry I came across as condescending. I'm a Cavan man so know lots of Down footballers. To me Sweeney shoud have got the All Star semi final year and I believe Comerford is maybe best gk in Ireland behind Cluxton.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 16, 2018, 01:05:41 PM
It's hard to come up with any persuasive reasons why Cavan would win this game. The best we've managed from them recently in a game that matters is a draw in 2015 in the first round.

Cavan have mounting injury worries and Down could and maybe should have won the game last week.

Rossies by 4+ and all Cavan hopes to lie on the Tipp game

Maybe but part of me wonders are cavan a bit further on fitness wise. Ros will be aiming for a later start in connacht cavan into battle but earlier. Killian Clarke may be missing so I'd say if he's fit cavan might sneak it but if not Ross will win it. We owe them a defeat and that bookies price is extremely generous and over rates Ros on current form.

Roscommon have lost two competitive matches since we last met 12 months ago, and one was to Mayo..

Roscommon have lost to Mayo, Clare and Down if I'm right?

Cavan have lost to Monaghan and Tipperary.

Roscommon beat Clare by seven in Ennis last Sunday, Westside. We drew with Meath in the first round.

You said Ros had lost 2 competitive games I'm in 12 months since we last met. By my reckoning you lost to Mayo, Clare in the qualifiers and Down in the league this year.

In the same time Cavan have lost to Monaghan and Tipperary.

Just to be accurate, inferring nothing..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 16, 2018, 01:22:46 PM
It's hard to come up with any persuasive reasons why Cavan would win this game. The best we've managed from them recently in a game that matters is a draw in 2015 in the first round.

Cavan have mounting injury worries and Down could and maybe should have won the game last week.

Rossies by 4+ and all Cavan hopes to lie on the Tipp game

Maybe but part of me wonders are cavan a bit further on fitness wise. Ros will be aiming for a later start in connacht cavan into battle but earlier. Killian Clarke may be missing so I'd say if he's fit cavan might sneak it but if not Ross will win it. We owe them a defeat and that bookies price is extremely generous and over rates Ros on current form.

Roscommon have lost two competitive matches since we last met 12 months ago, and one was to Mayo..

Roscommon have lost to Mayo, Clare and Down if I'm right?

Cavan have lost to Monaghan and Tipperary.

Roscommon beat Clare by seven in Ennis last Sunday, Westside. We drew with Meath in the first round.

You said Ros had lost 2 competitive games I'm in 12 months since we last met. By my reckoning you lost to Mayo, Clare in the qualifiers and Down in the league this year.

In the same time Cavan have lost to Monaghan and Tipperary.

Just to be accurate, inferring nothing..

We didn't play Clare at all in 2017, Westside. I think I'd know a little better than you on who Roscommon played so this mightn't be the wisest cross for you to die on.

Roscommon have only lost to Mayo (after a replay) and Down since we last met.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on March 16, 2018, 01:26:01 PM
It's hard to come up with any persuasive reasons why Cavan would win this game. The best we've managed from them recently in a game that matters is a draw in 2015 in the first round.

Cavan have mounting injury worries and Down could and maybe should have won the game last week.

Rossies by 4+ and all Cavan hopes to lie on the Tipp game

Maybe but part of me wonders are cavan a bit further on fitness wise. Ros will be aiming for a later start in connacht cavan into battle but earlier. Killian Clarke may be missing so I'd say if he's fit cavan might sneak it but if not Ross will win it. We owe them a defeat and that bookies price is extremely generous and over rates Ros on current form.

Roscommon have lost two competitive matches since we last met 12 months ago, and one was to Mayo..

Roscommon have lost to Mayo, Clare and Down if I'm right?

Cavan have lost to Monaghan and Tipperary.

Roscommon beat Clare by seven in Ennis last Sunday, Westside. We drew with Meath in the first round.

You said Ros had lost 2 competitive games I'm in 12 months since we last met. By my reckoning you lost to Mayo, Clare in the qualifiers and Down in the league this year.

In the same time Cavan have lost to Monaghan and Tipperary.

Just to be accurate, inferring nothing..

We didn't play Clare at all in 2017, Westside. I think I'd know a little better than you on who Roscommon played so this mightn't be the wisest cross for you to die on.

Roscommon have only lost to Mayo (after a replay) and Down since we last met.

I think you mean 'hill', Syf.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 16, 2018, 01:27:56 PM
It's hard to come up with any persuasive reasons why Cavan would win this game. The best we've managed from them recently in a game that matters is a draw in 2015 in the first round.

Cavan have mounting injury worries and Down could and maybe should have won the game last week.

Rossies by 4+ and all Cavan hopes to lie on the Tipp game

Maybe but part of me wonders are cavan a bit further on fitness wise. Ros will be aiming for a later start in connacht cavan into battle but earlier. Killian Clarke may be missing so I'd say if he's fit cavan might sneak it but if not Ross will win it. We owe them a defeat and that bookies price is extremely generous and over rates Ros on current form.

Roscommon have lost two competitive matches since we last met 12 months ago, and one was to Mayo..

Roscommon have lost to Mayo, Clare and Down if I'm right?

Cavan have lost to Monaghan and Tipperary.

Roscommon beat Clare by seven in Ennis last Sunday, Westside. We drew with Meath in the first round.

You said Ros had lost 2 competitive games I'm in 12 months since we last met. By my reckoning you lost to Mayo, Clare in the qualifiers and Down in the league this year.

In the same time Cavan have lost to Monaghan and Tipperary.

Just to be accurate, inferring nothing..

We didn't play Clare at all in 2017, Westside. I think I'd know a little better than you on who Roscommon played so this mightn't be the wisest cross for you to die on.

Roscommon have only lost to Mayo (after a replay) and Down since we last met.

I think you mean 'hill', Syf.

I'm comparing Cavan people to our lord and saviour, though. I thought that would be kinder.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 16, 2018, 01:28:49 PM
What are Tipp playing like these days?
With the exception of Quinlivan I would not know anyone else on the team.
Whats your thoughts on the naming of teams a few days before the game?Jesus ours does not get released until 20 minutes pre match.
Annoying!

Playing aswell as we have in any league I remember. We have a good panel now with options to come on rather than a bare 15 like when we got to the semi. Very wary of this game, ye seem to be losing games ye should be winning and worrying this will be the weekend it will all come right. We used to be like that but we are this year releasing them at a consistent time and small things like that make it feel like we are taking the football more seriously even if it is a nothing thing really

You might be less wary when you discover Downs record at home is dreadful in the league recently. 

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 16, 2018, 01:52:51 PM
It's hard to come up with any persuasive reasons why Cavan would win this game. The best we've managed from them recently in a game that matters is a draw in 2015 in the first round.

Cavan have mounting injury worries and Down could and maybe should have won the game last week.

Rossies by 4+ and all Cavan hopes to lie on the Tipp game

Maybe but part of me wonders are cavan a bit further on fitness wise. Ros will be aiming for a later start in connacht cavan into battle but earlier. Killian Clarke may be missing so I'd say if he's fit cavan might sneak it but if not Ross will win it. We owe them a defeat and that bookies price is extremely generous and over rates Ros on current form.

Roscommon have lost two competitive matches since we last met 12 months ago, and one was to Mayo..

Roscommon have lost to Mayo, Clare and Down if I'm right?

Cavan have lost to Monaghan and Tipperary.

Roscommon beat Clare by seven in Ennis last Sunday, Westside. We drew with Meath in the first round.

You said Ros had lost 2 competitive games I'm in 12 months since we last met. By my reckoning you lost to Mayo, Clare in the qualifiers and Down in the league this year.

In the same time Cavan have lost to Monaghan and Tipperary.

Just to be accurate, inferring nothing..

We didn't play Clare at all in 2017, Westside. I think I'd know a little better than you on who Roscommon played so this mightn't be the wisest cross for you to die on.

Roscommon have only lost to Mayo (after a replay) and Down since we last met.

Fair enough. So both teams have lost twice since we last met? What's the point you're making?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 16, 2018, 02:01:04 PM
What are Tipp playing like these days?
With the exception of Quinlivan I would not know anyone else on the team.
Whats your thoughts on the naming of teams a few days before the game?Jesus ours does not get released until 20 minutes pre match.
Annoying!

Playing aswell as we have in any league I remember. We have a good panel now with options to come on rather than a bare 15 like when we got to the semi. Very wary of this game, ye seem to be losing games ye should be winning and worrying this will be the weekend it will all come right. We used to be like that but we are this year releasing them at a consistent time and small things like that make it feel like we are taking the football more seriously even if it is a nothing thing really

You might be less wary when you discover Downs record at home is dreadful in the league recently.

Or the fact that Down have won 6 games in the last 3 years.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 16, 2018, 02:06:54 PM
It's hard to come up with any persuasive reasons why Cavan would win this game. The best we've managed from them recently in a game that matters is a draw in 2015 in the first round.

Cavan have mounting injury worries and Down could and maybe should have won the game last week.

Rossies by 4+ and all Cavan hopes to lie on the Tipp game

Maybe but part of me wonders are cavan a bit further on fitness wise. Ros will be aiming for a later start in connacht cavan into battle but earlier. Killian Clarke may be missing so I'd say if he's fit cavan might sneak it but if not Ross will win it. We owe them a defeat and that bookies price is extremely generous and over rates Ros on current form.

Roscommon have lost two competitive matches since we last met 12 months ago, and one was to Mayo..

Roscommon have lost to Mayo, Clare and Down if I'm right?

Cavan have lost to Monaghan and Tipperary.

Roscommon beat Clare by seven in Ennis last Sunday, Westside. We drew with Meath in the first round.

You said Ros had lost 2 competitive games I'm in 12 months since we last met. By my reckoning you lost to Mayo, Clare in the qualifiers and Down in the league this year.

In the same time Cavan have lost to Monaghan and Tipperary.

Just to be accurate, inferring nothing..

We didn't play Clare at all in 2017, Westside. I think I'd know a little better than you on who Roscommon played so this mightn't be the wisest cross for you to die on.

Roscommon have only lost to Mayo (after a replay) and Down since we last met.

Fair enough. So both teams have lost twice since we last met? What's the point you're making?

Look through the chain above to see.

Did Cavan not also lose to Tyrone by 21?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 16, 2018, 02:39:41 PM
Mr Deeds  no I don’t know any of the above.I wouldn’t be a big following of Tipp footballers
Would you know many Down players may I ask

Sorry I came across as condescending. I'm a Cavan man so know lots of Down footballers. To me Sweeney shoud have got the All Star semi final year and I believe Comerford is maybe best gk in Ireland behind Cluxton.

Ah here, we aren't playing ye till next week, could ye not wait to talk us up then!! Tbf, I wouldn't be overly familiar with down either bar 4/5 players even though I watched all their Ulster games last year just never overly paid attention.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on March 16, 2018, 04:20:17 PM
Mr Deeds  no I don’t know any of the above.I wouldn’t be a big following of Tipp footballers
Would you know many Down players may I ask

Sorry I came across as condescending. I'm a Cavan man so know lots of Down footballers. To me Sweeney shoud have got the All Star semi final year and I believe Comerford is maybe best gk in Ireland behind Cluxton.

Ah here, we aren't playing ye till next week, could ye not wait to talk us up then!! Tbf, I wouldn't be overly familiar with down either bar 4/5 players even though I watched all their Ulster games last year just never overly paid attention.

Still haven't got over game last year. A lot of people go on about Quinlivan but Sweeney probably better. What your thoughts?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 16, 2018, 04:31:33 PM
Mr Deeds  no I don’t know any of the above.I wouldn’t be a big following of Tipp footballers
Would you know many Down players may I ask

Sorry I came across as condescending. I'm a Cavan man so know lots of Down footballers. To me Sweeney shoud have got the All Star semi final year and I believe Comerford is maybe best gk in Ireland behind Cluxton.

Ah here, we aren't playing ye till next week, could ye not wait to talk us up then!! Tbf, I wouldn't be overly familiar with down either bar 4/5 players even though I watched all their Ulster games last year just never overly paid attention.

Still haven't got over game last year. A lot of people go on about Quinlivan but Sweeney probably better. What your thoughts?
Conor Sweeney a better scorer while Michael Quinlivan a better footballer.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: AZOffaly on March 16, 2018, 04:49:23 PM
Sweeney is a pure forward. Loves the ball out in front, and has a lovely kicking style. MQ is more of an all rounder. A better ball winner, probably more 'dynamic', and could play him anywhere from midfield up.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 16, 2018, 05:06:24 PM
It's hard to come up with any persuasive reasons why Cavan would win this game. The best we've managed from them recently in a game that matters is a draw in 2015 in the first round.

Cavan have mounting injury worries and Down could and maybe should have won the game last week.

Rossies by 4+ and all Cavan hopes to lie on the Tipp game

Maybe but part of me wonders are cavan a bit further on fitness wise. Ros will be aiming for a later start in connacht cavan into battle but earlier. Killian Clarke may be missing so I'd say if he's fit cavan might sneak it but if not Ross will win it. We owe them a defeat and that bookies price is extremely generous and over rates Ros on current form.

Roscommon have lost two competitive matches since we last met 12 months ago, and one was to Mayo..

Roscommon have lost to Mayo, Clare and Down if I'm right?

Cavan have lost to Monaghan and Tipperary.

Roscommon beat Clare by seven in Ennis last Sunday, Westside. We drew with Meath in the first round.

You said Ros had lost 2 competitive games I'm in 12 months since we last met. By my reckoning you lost to Mayo, Clare in the qualifiers and Down in the league this year.

In the same time Cavan have lost to Monaghan and Tipperary.

Just to be accurate, inferring nothing..

We didn't play Clare at all in 2017, Westside. I think I'd know a little better than you on who Roscommon played so this mightn't be the wisest cross for you to die on.

Roscommon have only lost to Mayo (after a replay) and Down since we last met.

Fair enough. So both teams have lost twice since we last met? What's the point you're making?

I'm sure it must be an incredibly insightful point whatever it is.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 16, 2018, 06:43:08 PM
Cavan (FL2 v Roscommon): James Farrelly; Jason McLoughlin, Padraig Faulkner, Conor Brady; Martin Reilly, Ciaran Brady, Enda Flanagan; Killian Clarke, Bryan Magee; Dara McVeety, Conor Moynagh, Oisin Kiernan; Niall Clerkin, Gearoid McKiernan, Caoimhin O'Reilly

Subs: Raymond Galligan, Jack Wharton, Stephen Murray, Sean McCormack, Adrian Cole, Conor Bradley, Cian Mackey, Sean Johnston, David Brady, Niall Murray, Conor Madden, Paul Gilcreest, Ciaran Flynn
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tommysmith on March 16, 2018, 06:58:19 PM
Galligan should be left in goals his kicckouts are much better and arguably the better  keeper anyway.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 16, 2018, 07:00:34 PM
Where’s Argue gone?

I still remember the Cavan lads screaming for the team to “let the ball in to ARGIE, ARGIE!!” in Breffni three years ago..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 16, 2018, 08:28:10 PM
What are Tipp playing like these days?
With the exception of Quinlivan I would not know anyone else on the team.
Whats your thoughts on the naming of teams a few days before the game?Jesus ours does not get released until 20 minutes pre match.
Annoying!

Playing aswell as we have in any league I remember. We have a good panel now with options to come on rather than a bare 15 like when we got to the semi. Very wary of this game, ye seem to be losing games ye should be winning and worrying this will be the weekend it will all come right. We used to be like that but we are this year releasing them at a consistent time and small things like that make it feel like we are taking the football more seriously even if it is a nothing thing really

You might be less wary when you discover Downs record at home is dreadful in the league recently.

That's more a reason to be worried, down will be determined not to lose all their home games this year
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 16, 2018, 10:10:03 PM
Hard to see why Galligan isn't left in goals. His kickouts were better and he was top notch the last game. Full back line still a worry for me, especially against the best full forward line in the Division. Niall Murray needs to start if he's able at all.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on March 16, 2018, 11:12:02 PM
Hard to see why Galligan isn't left in goals. His kickouts were better and he was top notch the last game. Full back line still a worry for me, especially against the best full forward line in the Division. Niall Murray needs to start if he's able at all.

They rotating keepers each game. Agreed at start of league. Galligan miles ahead though.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Smurfy123 on March 17, 2018, 07:38:49 AM
A little upset on the cards in Newry tomorrow I think
Lads what’s your take on the naming of the team before a weekends match?
Jesus we never release a team until 15 minutes before throw in.Its a bug bearer of mine.This has literally been goin on for years.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 17, 2018, 08:33:29 AM
Meath could do with some of this manliness this weekend

https://twitter.com/JurassicArse/status/974022946615373829?s=08
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 17, 2018, 01:17:10 PM
A bit of lottery predicting results in this division but here goes...

Down v Tipp - Tipp by 3
Cork v Clare - Cork by 4
Roscommon v Cavan - a draw
Louth v Meath - Meath by 8

Going into the final round of games still all to play for at the top and bottom.

Cavan 10
Tipp 9
Roscommon 8
Cork 8
Meath 5
Clare 4
Down 4
Louth 0
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Avondhu star on March 17, 2018, 04:17:53 PM
A bit of lottery predicting results in this division but here goes...

Down v Tipp - Tipp by 3
Cork v Clare - Cork by 4
Roscommon v Cavan - a draw
Louth v Meath - Meath by 8

Going into the final round of games still all to play for at the top and bottom.

Cavan 10
Tipp 9
Roscommon 8
Cork 8
Meath 5
Clare 4
Down 4
Louth 0

Ross and Cavan a very interesting one. Cavan have a poor record versus Roscommon but Ross can be inconsistent when it comes to must win games and they are away to Cork after tomorrow
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 17, 2018, 04:24:17 PM
A bit of lottery predicting results in this division but here goes...

Down v Tipp - Tipp by 3
Cork v Clare - Cork by 4
Roscommon v Cavan - a draw
Louth v Meath - Meath by 8

Going into the final round of games still all to play for at the top and bottom.

Cavan 10
Tipp 9
Roscommon 8
Cork 8
Meath 5
Clare 4
Down 4
Louth 0

Ross and Cavan a very interesting one. Cavan have a poor record versus Roscommon but Ross can be inconsistent when it comes to must win games and they are away to Cork after tomorrow
Cavan have showed the most consistency in group of inconsistent teams so far and i think Roscommon have Cork at home.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 17, 2018, 04:26:27 PM
A bit of lottery predicting results in this division but here goes...

Down v Tipp - Tipp by 3
Cork v Clare - Cork by 4
Roscommon v Cavan - a draw
Louth v Meath - Meath by 8

Going into the final round of games still all to play for at the top and bottom.

Cavan 10
Tipp 9
Roscommon 8
Cork 8
Meath 5
Clare 4
Down 4
Louth 0

Ross and Cavan a very interesting one. Cavan have a poor record versus Roscommon but Ross can be inconsistent when it comes to must win games and they are away to Cork after tomorrow
Cavan have showed the most consistency in group of inconsistent teams so far and i think Roscommon have Cork at home.

You’re right. Not that any match against Cork isn’t going to feel like a home game no matter where it’s played.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jim_Murphy_74 on March 17, 2018, 08:36:36 PM
Great win for Clare tonight.

/Jim.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 17, 2018, 08:39:02 PM
Great win for Clare tonight.

/Jim.

Good win for Roscommon too.

/Up Ros
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 17, 2018, 08:39:45 PM
Great win for Clare tonight.

/Jim.

Great away win for them, 2nd year in a row they have beaten Cork!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 17, 2018, 08:50:00 PM
Meath should win against Louth so doesn't that mean it's highly likely a team on 6 points could go down? Clare havr Louth and will win that. Doesn't cork play Ros in last game so they will really need a result so I'm not sure how that result is good for Ros?

Huge pressure on down to beat Tipp now so I suppose that's good for cavan and Ros. As usual an intriguing division.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 17, 2018, 08:58:32 PM
Meath should win against Louth so doesn't that mean it's highly likely a team on 6 points could go down? Clare havr Louth and will win that. Doesn't cork play Ros in last game so they will really need a result so I'm not sure how that result is good for Ros?

Huge pressure on down to beat Tipp now so I suppose that's good for cavan and Ros. As usual an intriguing division.

Cork have been eliminated from the promotion race barring a very bizarre set of results.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 17, 2018, 09:02:44 PM
Meath should win against Louth so doesn't that mean it's highly likely a team on 6 points could go down? Clare havr Louth and will win that. Doesn't cork play Ros in last game so they will really need a result so I'm not sure how that result is good for Ros?

Huge pressure on down to beat Tipp now so I suppose that's good for cavan and Ros. As usual an intriguing division.

Cork have been eliminated from the promotion race barring a very bizarre set of results.

Up to this point cavan roscommon and tipp have been far and away the three stand out teams and whichever two goes up will have deserved it.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 17, 2018, 09:10:14 PM
And kildare are now officially down to division 2 for next year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 17, 2018, 09:31:52 PM
Already wrong with one of my predictions  :-\ Cork last weekend beat Meath in Navan scoring 2-16 tonight at home to Clare lost and managed just 0-12 you don't get much more inconsistent than that.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: twohands!!! on March 17, 2018, 09:32:30 PM
Cork have lost all three of their home games in the league this year.

The list of teams who have lost all their league home games so far is
Mayo
Kildare
Louth
Offaly
Wexford
Waterford
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 17, 2018, 09:34:53 PM
Already wrong with one of my predictions  :-\ Cork last weekend beat Meath in Navan scoring 2-16 tonight at home to Clare lost and managed just 0-12 you don't get much more inconsistent than that.

clare when on form are a team who are really hard to beat, cork are very poor but you have to take both oppositions into account
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 17, 2018, 09:35:18 PM
Cork have lost all three of their home games in the league this year.

The list of teams who have lost all their league home games so far is
Mayo
Kildare
Louth
Offaly
Wexford
Waterford

cork beat louth at home
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: From the Bunker on March 17, 2018, 09:35:43 PM
And kildare are now officially down to division 2 for next year.

For anyone in division two I would not be doing high fives about that fact!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Aristo 60 on March 17, 2018, 09:36:23 PM
Cork have lost all three of their home games in the league this year.

The list of teams who have lost all their league home games so far is
Mayo
Kildare
Louth
Offaly
Wexford
Waterford

And Down   :-[
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 17, 2018, 09:37:33 PM
And kildare are now officially down to division 2 for next year.

For anyone in division two I would not be doing high fives about that fact!

Kildare are very average Bunker.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 17, 2018, 09:41:36 PM
And kildare are now officially down to division 2 for next year.

For anyone in division two I would not be doing high fives about that fact!
Armagh coming up from Division three are as good if not better than Kildare.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 17, 2018, 09:45:36 PM
And kildare are now officially down to division 2 for next year.

For anyone in division two I would not be doing high fives about that fact!
Armagh coming up from Division three are as good if not better than Kildare.

Ulster bias at play?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: From the Bunker on March 17, 2018, 09:48:13 PM
And kildare are now officially down to division 2 for next year.

For anyone in division two I would not be doing high fives about that fact!
Armagh coming up from Division three are as good if not better than Kildare.


Ulster bias at play?

They are as good.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 17, 2018, 09:52:38 PM
And kildare are now officially down to division 2 for next year.

For anyone in division two I would not be doing high fives about that fact!
Armagh coming up from Division three are as good if not better than Kildare.


Ulster bias at play?

They are as good.

If Armagh are that good why are they years hanging around in div3? Kildare are decent, lost few games by small amounts but will have a battered confidence after results year to date.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 17, 2018, 09:55:13 PM
Meath should win against Louth so doesn't that mean it's highly likely a team on 6 points could go down? Clare havr Louth and will win that. Doesn't cork play Ros in last game so they will really need a result so I'm not sure how that result is good for Ros?

Huge pressure on down to beat Tipp now so I suppose that's good for cavan and Ros. As usual an intriguing division.

Meath will be on 5 points going into the game v Down next week, and Down will be on either 4 or 6 points. Down v Meath will be a relegation playoff regardless of the other results (unless Louth pull off the impossible).
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 18, 2018, 07:46:18 AM
pitch inspection in newry later
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Horse Box on March 18, 2018, 09:20:41 AM
pitch inspection in newry later

Passed an inspection @ 8:30 , another one @ 12:00 ! Ridiculous situation as I`m about to head to it in an hour`s time , should have made the final call @ 8:30 for the benefit of the Support particularly the away Support ! ! !
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 18, 2018, 09:24:24 AM
pitch inspection in newry later

Passed an inspection @ 8:30 , another one @ 12:00 ! Ridiculous situation as I`m about to head to it in an hour`s time , should have made the final call @ 8:30 for the benefit of the Support particularly the away Support ! ! !

There isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell the match will be on. Even if the pitch is miraculously playable, for the safety of spectators, they will have to call it off.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Horse Box on March 18, 2018, 09:35:13 AM
pitch inspection in newry later

Passed an inspection @ 8:30 , another one @ 12:00 ! Ridiculous situation as I`m about to head to it in an hour`s time , should have made the final call @ 8:30 for the benefit of the Support particularly the away Support ! ! !

There isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell the match will be on. Even if the pitch is miraculously playable, for the safety of spectators, they will have to call it off.

Hearing that too , could be put back an hour or else played tomorrow ?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 18, 2018, 09:39:48 AM
pitch inspection in newry later

Passed an inspection @ 8:30 , another one @ 12:00 ! Ridiculous situation as I`m about to head to it in an hour`s time , should have made the final call @ 8:30 for the benefit of the Support particularly the away Support ! ! !

There isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell the match will be on. Even if the pitch is miraculously playable, for the safety of spectators, they will have to call it off.

Hearing that too , looks like it`s on toworrow ?

http://www.gaa.ie/news/allianz-league-fixture-postponements/

Nothing currently on gaa.ie about it, but I'm sure it'll be updated at some point. I'm no weather expert but I'm not sure if all the snow will be cleared by tomorrow afternoon. They'll probably refix it again for tomorrow anyway and reevaluate the situation in 24 hours.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: snoopdog on March 18, 2018, 09:43:50 AM
pitch inspection in newry later

Passed an inspection @ 8:30 , another one @ 12:00 ! Ridiculous situation as I`m about to head to it in an hour`s time , should have made the final call @ 8:30 for the benefit of the Support particularly the away Support ! ! !

There isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell the match will be on. Even if the pitch is miraculously playable, for the safety of spectators, they will have to call it off.

Hearing that too , looks like it`s on toworrow ?

http://www.gaa.ie/news/allianz-league-fixture-postponements/

Nothing currently on gaa.ie about it, but I'm sure it'll be updated at some point. I'm no weather expert but I'm not sure if all the snow will be cleared by tomorrow afternoon. They'll probably refix it again for tomorrow anyway and reevaluate the situation in 24 hours.
I had planned to travel from Dublin. Not gonna bother. The clowns will prob call it off a 1.55.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 18, 2018, 09:45:44 AM
Any snow at Hyde park?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 18, 2018, 09:51:05 AM
pitch inspection in newry later

Passed an inspection @ 8:30 , another one @ 12:00 ! Ridiculous situation as I`m about to head to it in an hour`s time , should have made the final call @ 8:30 for the benefit of the Support particularly the away Support ! ! !

There isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell the match will be on. Even if the pitch is miraculously playable, for the safety of spectators, they will have to call it off.


Another inspection at 12, were on the motorway now and road is fine here now.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Horse Box on March 18, 2018, 10:02:26 AM
pitch inspection in newry later

Passed an inspection @ 8:30 , another one @ 12:00 ! Ridiculous situation as I`m about to head to it in an hour`s time , should have made the final call @ 8:30 for the benefit of the Support particularly the away Support ! ! !

There isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell the match will be on. Even if the pitch is miraculously playable, for the safety of spectators, they will have to call it off.

Hearing that too , looks like it`s on toworrow ?

http://www.gaa.ie/news/allianz-league-fixture-postponements/

Nothing currently on gaa.ie about it, but I'm sure it'll be updated at some point. I'm no weather expert but I'm not sure if all the snow will be cleared by tomorrow afternoon. They'll probably refix it again for tomorrow anyway and reevaluate the situation in 24 hours.
I had planned to travel from Dublin. Not gonna bother. The clowns will prob call it off a 1.55.

True . Supporters Bus has left from Thurles now ! I`m not on it but am driving up .
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 18, 2018, 10:03:24 AM
pitch inspection in newry later

Passed an inspection @ 8:30 , another one @ 12:00 ! Ridiculous situation as I`m about to head to it in an hour`s time , should have made the final call @ 8:30 for the benefit of the Support particularly the away Support ! ! !

There isn’t a snowball’s chance in hell the match will be on. Even if the pitch is miraculously playable, for the safety of spectators, they will have to call it off.


Another inspection at 12, were on the motorway now and road is fine here now.

Motorway might be grand, but I live near Newry and the roads here are not, and anywhere that was previously green is now under about an inch of something white.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 18, 2018, 10:07:43 AM
Any snow at Hyde park?
None 15 miles away anyway
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: SHEEDY on March 18, 2018, 10:11:40 AM
Down match off.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: SHEEDY on March 18, 2018, 10:15:42 AM
Not a holiday for all in the black north tomorrow so the match will have to be refixed for a different date.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 18, 2018, 10:19:06 AM
Not a holiday for all in the black north tomorrow so the match will have to be refixed for a different date.

Make a mess of everything
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 18, 2018, 10:46:49 AM
Not a holiday for all in the black north tomorrow so the match will have to be refixed for a different date.
A evening throw in for tomorrow night a option?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 18, 2018, 10:53:42 AM
Not a holiday for all in the black north tomorrow so the match will have to be refixed for a different date.
A evening throw in for tomorrow night a option?

The CCCCCCCCC are releasing the refixture details on Tuesday.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on March 18, 2018, 02:47:11 PM
9 6  Roscommon. Playing with aid of a breeze.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 18, 2018, 02:52:20 PM
Breeze going off towards the corner, dunno how much of a help it will be.

Awful first 20 minutes and then we started playing. This talk of Cavan being more open looks like nonsense, 14 behind the ball on defense at nearly all times.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on March 18, 2018, 03:39:53 PM
Roscommon win 15 13.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 18, 2018, 03:54:30 PM
Looks almost certain now that it's winner takes all between Cavan and tipp. Could still finish with all 3 teams on 9 points but unlikely
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 18, 2018, 03:56:32 PM
Rossies a shade better, made more of their possession and Cormac Reilly gave them the rub of the green.

We're on the back foot now. Need to beat Tipp, a tough ask. I'm beginning to think we may be a tiny bit off what's needed to go up. Which is a pity because the teams coming down next year will make it a stronger Division than this year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 18, 2018, 03:58:50 PM
The sky is blue, the grass is green and Roscommon are better than Cavan.

Never in doubt.. :-X
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 18, 2018, 04:04:15 PM
Missed goal when 2 points up was a big twist. Still we earned two bites at the cherry so winner takes all next time out
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 18, 2018, 04:04:52 PM
The sky is blue, the grass is green and Roscommon are better than Cavan.

Never in doubt.. :-X

And you are a bollox
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 18, 2018, 04:06:17 PM
The sky is blue, the grass is green and Roscommon are better than Cavan.

Never in doubt.. :-X

And you are a bollox

Tongue firmly in cheek for your benefit, bruv.

Game could have went either way. Enda had an awful mishap in front of goal in the second half and if Cavan had got the goal it was game over.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Orchard park on March 18, 2018, 05:00:46 PM
 Reilly appeared to favour us a lot, several body checked and fouls waved on but if probably balances out over the course of a league.  Doubt if I was ever as cold in the Hyde. Ross ground it out but holy f**k the first 20 mins of both halves were puck from our perspective
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: oliverkelly on March 18, 2018, 05:18:44 PM
Reilly appeared to favour us a lot, several body checked and fouls waved on but if probably balances out over the course of a league.  Doubt if I was ever as cold in the Hyde. Ross ground it out but holy f**k the first 20 mins of both halves were puck from our perspective

Taught the ref was very poor for both sides but did not favour anyone. There was plenty of baffling decisions given to Cavan and lads not booked when they should have been especially McVeety in first half
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Shamrock Shore on March 18, 2018, 05:19:56 PM
Howye lads.

I may be popping in next Sun to have the craic  :)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 18, 2018, 05:22:18 PM
Reilly appeared to favour us a lot, several body checked and fouls waved on but if probably balances out over the course of a league.  Doubt if I was ever as cold in the Hyde. Ross ground it out but holy f**k the first 20 mins of both halves were puck from our perspective

Cavan got as many calls for as against. The Cavan manager was having a laugh after the match saying a game is 20% about the ref. If you want to win those types of matches it’s as much about the man on the sideline making the right calls as the ref or the players. Our subs delivered, Cavan’s didn't.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Avondhu star on March 18, 2018, 05:34:22 PM
A bit of lottery predicting results in this division but here goes...

Down v Tipp - Tipp by 3
Cork v Clare - Cork by 4
Roscommon v Cavan - a draw
Louth v Meath - Meath by 8

Going into the final round of games still all to play for at the top and bottom.

Cavan 10
Tipp 9
Roscommon 8
Cork 8
Meath 5
Clare 4
Down 4
Louth 0

Ross and Cavan a very interesting one. Cavan have a poor record versus Roscommon but Ross can be inconsistent when it comes to must win games and they are away to Cork after tomorrow
Cavan have showed the most consistency in group of inconsistent teams so far and i think Roscommon have Cork at home.
Sorry. Ross are at home to Cork. Having beaten Cavan it is completely in their own hands to get promoted
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 18, 2018, 05:41:45 PM
A bit of lottery predicting results in this division but here goes...

Down v Tipp - Tipp by 3
Cork v Clare - Cork by 4
Roscommon v Cavan - a draw
Louth v Meath - Meath by 8

Going into the final round of games still all to play for at the top and bottom.

Cavan 10
Tipp 9
Roscommon 8
Cork 8
Meath 5
Clare 4
Down 4
Louth 0

Ross and Cavan a very interesting one. Cavan have a poor record versus Roscommon but Ross can be inconsistent when it comes to must win games and they are away to Cork after tomorrow
Cavan have showed the most consistency in group of inconsistent teams so far and i think Roscommon have Cork at home.
Sorry. Ross are at home to Cork. Having beaten Cavan it is completely in their own hands to get promoted

Its completely in all three teams hands but roscommon are far and away the best placed and almost certain to go up. Interesting to see how the cccc run off the fixtures, you either have tipp and down next week and push all week 7 games back a week or play week 7 as is and tipp down the following week.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 18, 2018, 05:47:16 PM
Howye lads.

I may be popping in next Sun to have the craic  :)

Might be visiting myself too...
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: laoislad on March 18, 2018, 06:04:58 PM
Howye lads.

I may be popping in next Sun to have the craic  :)
Christ SS...you'll have a nosebleed being so high up!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 18, 2018, 06:07:28 PM
Once more we mixed the sublime (Ciaráin's outrageous late point esp) with the ridiculous  (first 20 minutes of each half) but got away with another 2 points.
2 late frees missed by Cavan helped.
We really dug it out in that last 15 minutes winning it 5-1.
Domican and Brian Stack the pick of the defence, Comphone showing what he can do at midfield and Ciaráin the pick of the forwards.
Subs added to things greatly and let's hope the cool clean here starts his best team in June and July .
I believe it's Down/Tipp next weekend, Final round back to Easter weekend and the Final 7/8 April.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: FermGael on March 18, 2018, 06:09:22 PM
Howye lads.

I may be popping in next Sun to have the craic  :)

You wouldn't fit .  Too many northies...
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 18, 2018, 06:12:15 PM
Once more we mixed the sublime (Ciaráin's outrageous late point esp) with the ridiculous  (first 20 minutes of each half) but got away with another 2 points.
2 late frees missed by Cavan helped.
We really dug it out in that last 15 minutes winning it 5-1.
Domican and Brian Stack the pick of the defence, Comphone showing what he can do at midfield and Ciaráin the pick of the forwards.
Subs added to things greatly and let's hope the cool clean here starts his best team in June and July .
I believe it's Down/Tipp next weekend, Final round back to Easter weekend and the Final 7/8 April.

Hanging on the Comphone..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 18, 2018, 08:51:35 PM
Ah look we probably deserved something out of that game but that's the way it goes. We've earned the right to have 2 bites at the cherry so bring on Tipp. Thought cormac Reilly was brutal as ref and ros got the rub of the green with him but you get that sometimes. Ros are probably the best team in the division and I tipped them for promotion at the start. They surely go up now.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 18, 2018, 09:03:03 PM
Ah look we probably deserved something out of that game but that's the way it goes. We've earned the right to have 2 bites at the cherry so bring on Tipp. Thought cormac Reilly was brutal as ref and ros got the rub of the green with him but you get that sometimes. Ros are probably the best team in the division and I tipped them for promotion at the start. They surely go up now.

Looking forward to it, this match is alot bigger for both counties than the league final one of us will be in. Looking at the results of both counties they are very very similar against each opposition. Cavan are the only team unbeaten at home in the league so its going to be a really tough ask.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 18, 2018, 09:19:20 PM
Didn't Cavan last gain promotion to Div one with a home win on round 7?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 18, 2018, 09:58:34 PM
Didn't Cavan last gain promotion to Div one with a home win on round 7?

Yes beat Galway in breffni park.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: AZOffaly on March 19, 2018, 09:58:19 AM
Can Down be mathematically promoted or relegated? If not is it worth rescheduling the Tipp game at all? I suppose if Tipp win there then a draw v Cavan would send them up?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 19, 2018, 10:03:18 AM
Can Down be mathematically promoted or relegated? If not is it worth rescheduling the Tipp game at all? I suppose if Tipp win there then a draw v Cavan would send them up?

Promoted - no. But we're very much still in the relegation battle.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 19, 2018, 02:21:22 PM
Can Down be mathematically promoted or relegated? If not is it worth rescheduling the Tipp game at all? I suppose if Tipp win there then a draw v Cavan would send them up?
Down can only get 8 points Cavan and Ros have 9 already.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 19, 2018, 02:26:03 PM
it looks like its down to the tipp cavan game to see who goes up and meath down match to see whos relegated
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: thejuice on March 19, 2018, 08:42:13 PM
Were they planning on Meath Louth going on tonight? Bit of a strange decision. It was postponed again though apparently weather was grand in Drogheda this evening. Sure we might as well delay the rest of the league and the O’Byrne Cup final till September when we’ll have nothing left to do.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 19, 2018, 08:51:28 PM
Were they planning on Meath Louth going on tonight? Bit of a strange decision. It was postponed again though apparently weather was grand in Drogheda this evening. Sure we might as well delay the rest of the league and the O’Byrne Cup final till September when we’ll have nothing left to do.

Thats optimistic thinking ye'll have to wait till september because ye'll be busy ;)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Smurfy123 on March 19, 2018, 10:07:40 PM
If Down were to beat Meath this weekend and Cavan beat tipp then the fixtures that weee called off yesterday are dead runners anyway?Would that be correct
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 19, 2018, 10:12:53 PM
If Down were to beat Meath this weekend and Cavan beat tipp then the fixtures that weee called off yesterday are dead runners anyway?Would that be correct

I think roscommon would need something against cork too but yeah that would mean the other games are meaningless.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 19, 2018, 10:13:36 PM
If Down were to beat Meath this weekend and Cavan beat tipp then the fixtures that weee called off yesterday are dead runners anyway?Would that be correct


As long as Roscommon beat Cork. If Roscommon lose to Cork, then Tipp would be two points behind them with a game in hand.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on March 19, 2018, 10:22:36 PM
I heard fixtures for this weekend will be the original ones. So Cavan Tipp Sunday. We'll know tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 19, 2018, 10:33:08 PM
I heard fixtures for this weekend will be the original ones. So Cavan Tipp Sunday. We'll know tomorrow.

How can they be, the last round of games are always on the same at same time. Never even any Saturday games on last weekend. This would be a major departure from the norm and from fair play
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 19, 2018, 10:34:25 PM
I heard fixtures for this weekend will be the original ones. So Cavan Tipp Sunday. We'll know tomorrow.

We'll know tomorrow as you say, strong possibility we will know the two promoted teams if that is the case and can still play the final as scheduled the bank holiday with the division 1 final
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 19, 2018, 10:36:24 PM
I heard fixtures for this weekend will be the original ones. So Cavan Tipp Sunday. We'll know tomorrow.

How can they be, the last round of games are always on the same at same time. Never even any Saturday games on last weekend. This would be a major departure from the norm and from fair play

Depending on the Down v Tipp result, Cavan could be at the disadvantage of not knowing whether a draw would see us promoted or not. Whereas we would know for certain what we need from the last game if all final games are played simultaneously
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Hound on March 20, 2018, 08:26:16 AM
Colm Parkinson had a good interview with Kevin McStay on Thursday or Friday on his podcast. Worth looking up for any Rossies
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: oliverkelly on March 20, 2018, 01:10:25 PM
I heard fixtures for this weekend will be the original ones. So Cavan Tipp Sunday. We'll know tomorrow.

Roscommon are playing Cork this weekend anyway so presume the others will be the same
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 20, 2018, 01:51:04 PM
If Tipp lose to Down
Tipp Beat Cavan
 Ros lose to Cork

All would be on 9 points I think.

If Tipp beat Down
If Tipp and Cavan Draw
If Ros and Cork Draw

All would be on 10 points

In either of these two scenarios it would go down to score difference and I think Ros would lose out unless in option one Tipp won by a 6/7 points against Cavan.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 20, 2018, 02:10:53 PM
If Tipp lose to Down
Tipp Beat Cavan
 Ros lose to Cork

All would be on 9 points I think.

If Tipp beat Down
If Tipp and Cavan Draw
If Ros and Cork Draw

All would be on 10 points

In either of these two scenarios it would go down to score difference and I think Ros would lose out unless in option one Tipp won by a 6/7 points against Cavan.

Week 7 games go ahead as planned. No date for Meath Louth, down tipp. Both games may end up dead rubbers
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: AZOffaly on March 20, 2018, 02:29:32 PM
If Tipp lose to Down
Tipp Beat Cavan
 Ros lose to Cork

All would be on 9 points I think.

If Tipp beat Down
If Tipp and Cavan Draw
If Ros and Cork Draw

All would be on 10 points

In either of these two scenarios it would go down to score difference and I think Ros would lose out unless in option one Tipp won by a 6/7 points against Cavan.

Week 7 games go ahead as planned. No date for Meath Louth, down tipp. Both games may end up dead rubbers

I'd say that's what they are hoping for
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: westbound on March 20, 2018, 02:36:57 PM
If Tipp lose to Down
Tipp Beat Cavan
 Ros lose to Cork

All would be on 9 points I think.

If Tipp beat Down
If Tipp and Cavan Draw
If Ros and Cork Draw

All would be on 10 points

In either of these two scenarios it would go down to score difference and I think Ros would lose out unless in option one Tipp won by a 6/7 points against Cavan.

That's correct. And to be exact, Ros would lose out in option one unless Tipp won by 5 points MORE than Ros lost to cork by (there is another far fetched scenario invloving Tipp losing by a big margin to down should could mean Tipp end up with a worse scoring difference than Roscommon - but let's not get into that at the moment!)

Looking at just sunday's game:
If Cavan beat tipp - Cavan and Ros are promoted
If Tipp beat Cavan, and Ros avoid losing to Cork - Tipp and Ros are promoted
If Tipp and Cavan Draw, Ros need a win to be promoted. The other promotion spot would come down to the postponed Tipp V Down game.  If Ros don't win (and Cavan V Tipp is a draw) the 3 teams would be waiting on the Tipp V Down refixture to see who goes up.
 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 20, 2018, 02:59:41 PM
If Tipp lose to Down
Tipp Beat Cavan
 Ros lose to Cork

All would be on 9 points I think.

If Tipp beat Down
If Tipp and Cavan Draw
If Ros and Cork Draw

All would be on 10 points

In either of these two scenarios it would go down to score difference and I think Ros would lose out unless in option one Tipp won by a 6/7 points against Cavan.

Week 7 games go ahead as planned. No date for Meath Louth, down tipp. Both games may end up dead rubbers

I'd say that's what they are hoping for

And if they don't?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 20, 2018, 03:04:25 PM
If Tipp lose to Down
Tipp Beat Cavan
 Ros lose to Cork

All would be on 9 points I think.

If Tipp beat Down
If Tipp and Cavan Draw
If Ros and Cork Draw

All would be on 10 points

In either of these two scenarios it would go down to score difference and I think Ros would lose out unless in option one Tipp won by a 6/7 points against Cavan.

Week 7 games go ahead as planned. No date for Meath Louth, down tipp. Both games may end up dead rubbers

I'd say that's what they are hoping for

And if they don't?

Then the two games will go ahead the week after I'd imagine
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 20, 2018, 03:08:45 PM
If needed the outstanding games go ahead Easter weekend .
If The Tipp game has a bearing on the Final that meaningless game will be on the 7th or 8th of April.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 20, 2018, 03:14:52 PM
If needed the outstanding games go ahead Easter weekend .
If The Tipp game has a bearing on the Final that meaningless game will be on the 7th or 8th of April.

The whole GAA calendar depends on Cavan winning..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 20, 2018, 04:20:46 PM
Cavan being put at a disadvantage here. We're being put in a situation where we have to win even though a draw may do but we won't know because of the fixtures.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on March 20, 2018, 04:26:41 PM
Cavan being put at a disadvantage here. We're being put in a situation where we have to win even though a draw may do but we won't know because of the fixtures.

How can you play for a draw? Not soccer. Go out and try to win.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 20, 2018, 04:37:01 PM
Cavan being put at a disadvantage here. We're being put in a situation where we have to win even though a draw may do but we won't know because of the fixtures.

How can you play for a draw? Not soccer. Go out and try to win.

You don't play for a draw but the opportunity may well present itself. It's not a huge disadvantage but it's there nonetheless.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 20, 2018, 05:46:16 PM
Cavan being put at a disadvantage here. We're being put in a situation where we have to win even though a draw may do but we won't know because of the fixtures.

How can you play for a draw? Not soccer. Go out and try to win.

Cavan have a free on the 14 in the last minute of the game when they're a point down. Do they stick it over the bar to secure the draw, or try and work a goal to win and risk losing everything? 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 20, 2018, 05:51:08 PM
Cavan being put at a disadvantage here. We're being put in a situation where we have to win even though a draw may do but we won't know because of the fixtures.

How can you play for a draw? Not soccer. Go out and try to win.

Cavan have a free on the 14 in the last minute of the game when they're a point down. Do they stick it over the bar to secure the draw, or try and work a goal to win and risk losing everything?

If they’d been good enough to beat us they wouldn’t have had this problem.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 20, 2018, 05:54:29 PM
Cavan being put at a disadvantage here. We're being put in a situation where we have to win even though a draw may do but we won't know because of the fixtures.

How can you play for a draw? Not soccer. Go out and try to win.

Cavan have a free on the 14 in the last minute of the game when they're a point down. Do they stick it over the bar to secure the draw, or try and work a goal to win and risk losing everything?

If they’d been good enough to beat us they wouldn’t have had this problem.

That's not really the point, is it? You'd be crying louder than anyone if Roscommon were in Cavan's position.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 20, 2018, 06:17:57 PM
Usual silly comment by Syfīn.
He's " tearing up a forest" on stolen-sheep today.

An unsatisfactory way to end a League.
I suspect the fixtures calendar is in for further overhauling for 2019.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 20, 2018, 06:22:10 PM
Usual silly comment by Syfīn.
He's " tearing up a forest" on stolen-sheep today.

An unsatisfactory way to end a League.
I suspect the fixtures calendar is in for further overhauling for 2019.

I'm disappointed I can't view Stolen-sheep without registering.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 20, 2018, 06:44:33 PM
Cavan being put at a disadvantage here. We're being put in a situation where we have to win even though a draw may do but we won't know because of the fixtures.

How can you play for a draw? Not soccer. Go out and try to win.

Cavan have a free on the 14 in the last minute of the game when they're a point down. Do they stick it over the bar to secure the draw, or try and work a goal to win and risk losing everything?

If they’d been good enough to beat us they wouldn’t have had this problem.

That's not really the point, is it? You'd be crying louder than anyone if Roscommon were in Cavan's position.

I'm messing you wee eejit.

It's stupid but it's not going to change.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 20, 2018, 07:03:46 PM
Id have sympathy over the final weekend being played and some games to go. For me the cavan game was always shit or bust, I cant see roscommon losing to a cork team with nothing to play for. Hopefully the tipp down game has no bearing at all on promotion or relegation.

On the game, looks like it should be a cracker, we came from 6 down at ht in breffini last year in the championship to go 6 up and eventually win by 3. We have certainly improved from the team and panel we had that day, we have played two knockout games in cavan the last two years and won both memorably so its a venue we've fond memories of but Cavan have had a really solid league campaign so far and are unbeaten at home. If you look at the results we both lost to roscommon by two and both drew with clare in ennis, the wins we had against the same oppositions were almost by identical margins. Hopefully in the same way i hope the way fixtures are set out has no bearing, hopefully nobodies talking about the ref or any other controversial things after it.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: weareros on March 20, 2018, 07:18:10 PM
Cavan being put at a disadvantage here. We're being put in a situation where we have to win even though a draw may do but we won't know because of the fixtures.

How can you play for a draw? Not soccer. Go out and try to win.

Cavan have a free on the 14 in the last minute of the game when they're a point down. Do they stick it over the bar to secure the draw, or try and work a goal to win and risk losing everything?

If they’d been good enough to beat us they wouldn’t have had this problem.

That's not really the point, is it? You'd be crying louder than anyone if Roscommon were in Cavan's position.

I'm messing you wee eejit.

It's stupid but it's not going to change.

I think it was Loneshark that pointed out on SS that Roscommon would be at a disadvantage too. Because if Tipp beat Cavan (likely I think), and Cork beat Roscommon (possible), then Tipp with superior scoring average can afford to lose comfortably to Down and still go up. Cavan would then go up too.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 22, 2018, 09:04:58 PM
Any recommendations for somewhere we'd get a bit of grub and watch the tipp dublin match in cavan before the football?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 22, 2018, 09:40:37 PM
Any recommendations for somewhere we'd get a bit of grub and watch the tipp dublin match in cavan before the football?

The Meadowview, it's up near the pitch and does good food. Get in early though! Best of luck Sunday. Nothing between the teams so hopefully a great battle in store.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 22, 2018, 09:47:28 PM
Any recommendations for somewhere we'd get a bit of grub and watch the tipp dublin match in cavan before the football?

The Meadowview, it's up near the pitch and does good food. Get in early though! Best of luck Sunday. Nothing between the teams so hopefully a great battle in store.

good man. Yeah really looking forward to sunday, on paper its basically a championship match with nothing between the teams. I hope everything gets sorted this weekend and theres nothing over how the fixtures have been done. May the best team on the day win
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 22, 2018, 11:11:22 PM
Cork and Roscommon teams named for Sundays match, both have made 3 changes to their starting teams.

Cork

1. Ryan Price (O Donovan Rossa)
2. Sam Ryan (St Finbarrs)
3. Jamie O Sullivan (Bishopstown)
4. Kevin Flahive (Douglas)
5. Kevin Crowley (Millstreet)
6. Sean Wilson (Douglas)
7. Tom Clancy (Fermoy)
8. Ian Maguire (St Finbarrs) Captain
9. Cillian O Hanlon (Kilshannig)
10. Matthew Taylor (Mallow)
11. Mark Collins (Castlehaven)
12. Ronan O Toole (Eire Og)
13. Colm O Neill (Ballyclough)
14. Peter Kelleher (Kimichael)
15. John O Rourke (Carbery Rangers
Subs:
16. Anthony Casey (Kiskeam)
17. Micheal McSweeney (Newcestown)
18. Conor Dorman (Bishopstown)
19. Cian Kiely (Ballincollig)
20. Dylan Quinn (St Finbarrs)
21. Padraigh Clancy (Fermoy)
22. Daniel O Callaghan (Clyda Rovers)
23. Cathal Vaughan (Iveleary)
24. Cian Dorgan (Ballincollig)
25. Michael Hurley (Castlehaven)
26. Stephen Sherlock (St Finbarrs)
27. Donncha O Connor (Ballydesmond)

Roscommon

 Colm Lavin (Eire Og)
David Murray (Padraig Pearses)
Peter Domican (St Brigids)
Fergal Lennon (Clann na nGael)
Conor Daly (Padraig Pearses)
Ultan Harney (Clann na nGael)
Brian Stack (St Brigids)
Tadhg O Rourke (Tulsk)
Cathal Compton (Strokestown)
Ciarain Murtagh (St Faithleachs)
Niall Kilroy (Fuerty)
Conor Devaney (Kilbride)
Donie Smith (Boyle)
Ciaran Lennon (Clann na nGael)
Diarmuid Murtagh (St Faithleachs)

Subs
James Fetherstone (Roscommon Gaels)
Cathal Cregg (Western Gaels)
Enda Smith (Boyle)
Fintan Cregg (Elphin)
Ian Kilbride (St Brigids)
Niall Daly (Padraig Pearses)
Ronan Daly (Padraig Pearses)
Sean McDermott (Western Gaels)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: twohands!!! on March 23, 2018, 11:49:25 AM
That's an inexperienced enough looking team that Cork have named.

The only 2 left from the 2010 All-Ireland win are Colm O'Neill and Donncha O'Connor.

However even beyond that there's a serious chunk of lads named there who have never played Division 1 football for Cork.

Also further proof they current Cork football management can't count naming a squad of 27 this time out.

Roscommon will have no excuses if they can't get the win.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on March 23, 2018, 12:08:13 PM
If Tipp lose to Down
Tipp Beat Cavan
 Ros lose to Cork

All would be on 9 points I think.

If Tipp beat Down
If Tipp and Cavan Draw
If Ros and Cork Draw

All would be on 10 points

In either of these two scenarios it would go down to score difference and I think Ros would lose out unless in option one Tipp won by a 6/7 points against Cavan.

Week 7 games go ahead as planned. No date for Meath Louth, down tipp. Both games may end up dead rubbers

They better.
We've an O'Byrne Final to play.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 23, 2018, 12:16:22 PM
That's an inexperienced enough looking team that Cork have named.

The only 2 left from the 2010 All-Ireland win are Colm O'Neill and Donncha O'Connor.

However even beyond that there's a serious chunk of lads named there who have never played Division 1 football for Cork.

Also further proof they current Cork football management can't count naming a squad of 27 this time out.

Roscommon will have no excuses if they can't get the win.

Like all in this division Roscommon are inconsistent, able to beat Cavan who were top and unbeaten last week but couldn't beat Down and Meath at home.

I don't think any of the Div 2 sides have many players left for 2010 which is 8 years ago now. Cork won Munster U21 titles 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2016 thats where the majority of their players should come from now and with that underage success they should be doing a lot better than they are currently
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 23, 2018, 12:18:24 PM
That's an inexperienced enough looking team that Cork have named.

The only 2 left from the 2010 All-Ireland win are Colm O'Neill and Donncha O'Connor.

proof they current Cork football management can't count naming a squad of 27 this time out.

Roscommon will have no excuses if they can't get the win.
We have only 23 players so there's our excuse ;D
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 23, 2018, 12:46:36 PM
That's an inexperienced enough looking team that Cork have named.

The only 2 left from the 2010 All-Ireland win are Colm O'Neill and Donncha O'Connor.

However even beyond that there's a serious chunk of lads named there who have never played Division 1 football for Cork.

Also further proof they current Cork football management can't count naming a squad of 27 this time out.

Roscommon will have no excuses if they can't get the win.

Like all in this division Roscommon are inconsistent, able to beat Cavan who were top and unbeaten last week but couldn't beat Down and Meath at home.

I don't think any of the Div 2 sides have many players left for 2010 which is 8 years ago now. Cork won Munster U21 titles 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2016 thats where the majority of their players should come from now and with that underage success they should be doing a lot better than they are currently

We've won our last four games and beaten both of the other teams who can be promoted. The only time we've lost this year at all is when Killer got himself sent off after ten minutes. What exactly is inconsistent about that?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 23, 2018, 12:59:14 PM
That's an inexperienced enough looking team that Cork have named.

The only 2 left from the 2010 All-Ireland win are Colm O'Neill and Donncha O'Connor.

However even beyond that there's a serious chunk of lads named there who have never played Division 1 football for Cork.

Also further proof they current Cork football management can't count naming a squad of 27 this time out.

Roscommon will have no excuses if they can't get the win.

Like all in this division Roscommon are inconsistent, able to beat Cavan who were top and unbeaten last week but couldn't beat Down and Meath at home.

I don't think any of the Div 2 sides have many players left for 2010 which is 8 years ago now. Cork won Munster U21 titles 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2016 thats where the majority of their players should come from now and with that underage success they should be doing a lot better than they are currently

We've won our last four games and beaten both of the other teams who can be promoted. The only time we've lost this year at all is when Killer got himself sent off after ten minutes. What exactly is inconsistent about that?
There is another excuse for the rossies Sunday if they don't win. A sending off! Roscommon are even inconsistent during games..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Kurtz on March 23, 2018, 01:06:14 PM
That's an inexperienced enough looking team that Cork have named.

The only 2 left from the 2010 All-Ireland win are Colm O'Neill and Donncha O'Connor.

However even beyond that there's a serious chunk of lads named there who have never played Division 1 football for Cork.

Also further proof they current Cork football management can't count naming a squad of 27 this time out.

Roscommon will have no excuses if they can't get the win.

Like all in this division Roscommon are inconsistent, able to beat Cavan who were top and unbeaten last week but couldn't beat Down and Meath at home.

I don't think any of the Div 2 sides have many players left for 2010 which is 8 years ago now. Cork won Munster U21 titles 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2016 thats where the majority of their players should come from now and with that underage success they should be doing a lot better than they are currently

We've won our last four games and beaten both of the other teams who can be promoted. The only time we've lost this year at all is when Killer got himself sent off after ten minutes. What exactly is inconsistent about that?

Roscommon are like Liverpool
When you expect them to get a result they don't  ;D
But, I hope they do the business and prove me wrong this time
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 23, 2018, 01:06:37 PM
That's an inexperienced enough looking team that Cork have named.

The only 2 left from the 2010 All-Ireland win are Colm O'Neill and Donncha O'Connor.

However even beyond that there's a serious chunk of lads named there who have never played Division 1 football for Cork.

Also further proof they current Cork football management can't count naming a squad of 27 this time out.

Roscommon will have no excuses if they can't get the win.

Like all in this division Roscommon are inconsistent, able to beat Cavan who were top and unbeaten last week but couldn't beat Down and Meath at home.

I don't think any of the Div 2 sides have many players left for 2010 which is 8 years ago now. Cork won Munster U21 titles 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2016 thats where the majority of their players should come from now and with that underage success they should be doing a lot better than they are currently

We've won our last four games and beaten both of the other teams who can be promoted. The only time we've lost this year at all is when Killer got himself sent off after ten minutes. What exactly is inconsistent about that?
There is another excuse for the rossies Sunday if they don't win. A sending off! Roscommon are even inconsistent during games..

You say that like even Dublin are consistent for 70 minutes.

Roscommon are very consistent in that we usually score a lot and concede a lot. And lately, we usually win too.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rudi on March 23, 2018, 01:30:19 PM
The only thing consistent about Roscommon is your ability to talk complete and utter shite on this board and God knows where else.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 23, 2018, 01:33:26 PM
The only thing consistent about Roscommon is your ability to talk complete and utter shite on this board and God knows where else.

Please point out where anything in my previous post was incorrect, otherwise you might try to stick to posts that contribute to the topic rather than grinding your personal axes in future.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 23, 2018, 03:14:08 PM
The only thing consistent about Roscommon is your ability to talk complete and utter shite on this board and God knows where else.
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 23, 2018, 03:56:50 PM
That's an inexperienced enough looking team that Cork have named.

The only 2 left from the 2010 All-Ireland win are Colm O'Neill and Donncha O'Connor.

However even beyond that there's a serious chunk of lads named there who have never played Division 1 football for Cork.

Also further proof they current Cork football management can't count naming a squad of 27 this time out.

Roscommon will have no excuses if they can't get the win.

Like all in this division Roscommon are inconsistent, able to beat Cavan who were top and unbeaten last week but couldn't beat Down and Meath at home.

I don't think any of the Div 2 sides have many players left for 2010 which is 8 years ago now. Cork won Munster U21 titles 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2016 thats where the majority of their players should come from now and with that underage success they should be doing a lot better than they are currently

We've won our last four games and beaten both of the other teams who can be promoted. The only time we've lost this year at all is when Killer got himself sent off after ten minutes. What exactly is inconsistent about that?
Clare beat Down in Newry with 14 men. Roscommon have played 3 home games so far. 1 win 1 draw and 1 defeat the very definition of inconsistent. To know how inconsistent Roscommon really are then look no further than last summer when one week Roscommon drew with Mayo in a game they should have won and the next week beaten by over 20 points in a contest that was over after 10 minutes.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 23, 2018, 04:10:41 PM
That's an inexperienced enough looking team that Cork have named.

The only 2 left from the 2010 All-Ireland win are Colm O'Neill and Donncha O'Connor.

However even beyond that there's a serious chunk of lads named there who have never played Division 1 football for Cork.

Also further proof they current Cork football management can't count naming a squad of 27 this time out.

Roscommon will have no excuses if they can't get the win.

Like all in this division Roscommon are inconsistent, able to beat Cavan who were top and unbeaten last week but couldn't beat Down and Meath at home.

I don't think any of the Div 2 sides have many players left for 2010 which is 8 years ago now. Cork won Munster U21 titles 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2016 thats where the majority of their players should come from now and with that underage success they should be doing a lot better than they are currently

We've won our last four games and beaten both of the other teams who can be promoted. The only time we've lost this year at all is when Killer got himself sent off after ten minutes. What exactly is inconsistent about that?
Clare beat Down in Newry with 14 men. Roscommon have played 3 home games so far. 1 win 1 draw and 1 defeat the very definition of inconsistent. To know how inconsistent Roscommon really are then look no further than last summer when one week Roscommon drew with Mayo in a game they should have won and the next week beaten by over 20 points in a contest that was over after 10 minutes.

A closer examination of that game and the replayed Connacht final of 2016 (and the Clare game the following week) suggested an inability or lack of depth to preform at that high a level two weeks in a row. But, sure, 'inconsistent' is easier to type..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 23, 2018, 04:20:04 PM


Like all in this division Roscommon are inconsistent, able to beat Cavan who were top and unbeaten last week but couldn't beat Down and Meath at home.

I don't think any of the Div 2 sides have many players left for 2010 which is 8 years ago now. Cork won Munster U21 titles 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2016 thats where the majority of their players should come from now and with that underage success they should be doing a lot better than they are currently

We've won our last four games and beaten both of the other teams who can be promoted. The only time we've lost this year at all is when Killer got himself sent off after ten minutes. What exactly is inconsistent about that?
Clare beat Down in Newry with 14 men. Roscommon have played 3 home games so far. 1 win 1 draw and 1 defeat the very definition of inconsistent. To know how inconsistent Roscommon really are then look no further than last summer when one week Roscommon drew with Mayo in a game they should have won and the next week beaten by over 20 points in a contest that was over after 10 minutes.

A closer examination of that game and the replayed Connacht final of 2016 (and the Clare game the following week) suggested an inability or lack of depth to preform at that high a level two weeks in a row. But, sure, 'inconsistent' is easier to type..


Inconsistent

2. adjective
Someone or something that is inconsistent does not stay the same, being sometimes good and sometimes bad.


https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/inconsistent


What you've said is more or less an alternative definition for 'inconsistent'...
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 23, 2018, 05:19:45 PM
Jesus Christ lads, any chance of ye talking about the matches or are ye pointing out grammar to Syf?  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 23, 2018, 05:23:20 PM


Like all in this division Roscommon are inconsistent, able to beat Cavan who were top and unbeaten last week but couldn't beat Down and Meath at home.

I don't think any of the Div 2 sides have many players left for 2010 which is 8 years ago now. Cork won Munster U21 titles 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2016 thats where the majority of their players should come from now and with that underage success they should be doing a lot better than they are currently

We've won our last four games and beaten both of the other teams who can be promoted. The only time we've lost this year at all is when Killer got himself sent off after ten minutes. What exactly is inconsistent about that?
Clare beat Down in Newry with 14 men. Roscommon have played 3 home games so far. 1 win 1 draw and 1 defeat the very definition of inconsistent. To know how inconsistent Roscommon really are then look no further than last summer when one week Roscommon drew with Mayo in a game they should have won and the next week beaten by over 20 points in a contest that was over after 10 minutes.

A closer examination of that game and the replayed Connacht final of 2016 (and the Clare game the following week) suggested an inability or lack of depth to preform at that high a level two weeks in a row. But, sure, 'inconsistent' is easier to type..


Inconsistent

2. adjective
Someone or something that is inconsistent does not stay the same, being sometimes good and sometimes bad.


https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/inconsistent


What you've said is more or less an alternative definition for 'inconsistent'...

I’m just quoting this so you don’t delete your post when you realise you missed the point.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 23, 2018, 05:32:10 PM
We've won our last four games and beaten both of the other teams who can be promoted. The only time we've lost this year at all is when Killer got himself sent off after ten minutes. What exactly is inconsistent about that?

A closer examination of that game and the replayed Connacht final of 2016 (and the Clare game the following week) suggested an inability...to preform at that high a level two weeks in a row. But, sure, 'inconsistent' is easier to type..

I'll give you a buzz when I work out how pointing out you saying Roscommon are inconsistent 4 hours after taking umbrage at another poster saying Roscommon are inconsistent is missing the point.

Unless your point was that the Rossies were inconsistent last year but not this year, but as has already been shown, 1 win, 1 loss and 1 draw in your home games this year disproves that point. As does the idea that you are only inconsistent when playing at a higher level.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 23, 2018, 05:34:09 PM
We've won our last four games and beaten both of the other teams who can be promoted. The only time we've lost this year at all is when Killer got himself sent off after ten minutes. What exactly is inconsistent about that?

A closer examination of that game and the replayed Connacht final of 2016 (and the Clare game the following week) suggested an inability...to preform at that high a level two weeks in a row. But, sure, 'inconsistent' is easier to type..

I'll give you a buzz when I work out how pointing out you saying Roscommon are inconsistent 4 hours after taking umbrage at another poster saying Roscommon are inconsistent is missing the point.


Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 23, 2018, 06:02:52 PM
That's an inexperienced enough looking team that Cork have named.

The only 2 left from the 2010 All-Ireland win are Colm O'Neill and Donncha O'Connor.

However even beyond that there's a serious chunk of lads named there who have never played Division 1 football for Cork.

Also further proof they current Cork football management can't count naming a squad of 27 this time out.

Roscommon will have no excuses if they can't get the win.

Like all in this division Roscommon are inconsistent, able to beat Cavan who were top and unbeaten last week but couldn't beat Down and Meath at home.

I don't think any of the Div 2 sides have many players left for 2010 which is 8 years ago now. Cork won Munster U21 titles 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2016 thats where the majority of their players should come from now and with that underage success they should be doing a lot better than they are currently

We've won our last four games and beaten both of the other teams who can be promoted. The only time we've lost this year at all is when Killer got himself sent off after ten minutes. What exactly is inconsistent about that?

entertaining reading all this just now....for what its worth, roscommon, cavan and tipp have been the best 3 teams, cavan and roscommon on the same points, tipp two points behind with one game less played. I dont think any can claim to be the best of the 3. Roscommon beat both but (not having been at the match) tipp were 6 points up with 5 mins to go and listening on the radio the better team for the majority, so on that bases roscommon have been just as inconsistent as the other two in terms of performances and having more or less matching results theyve been just as inconsistent/consistent on that basis. Non of this matters, the two that go up wont care how theyre thought of.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on March 23, 2018, 06:24:38 PM
Cavan team

1. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
2. Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels)
3. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
4. Enda Flanagan (Castlerahan)
5. Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
6. Ciaran Brady (Arvagh)
7. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
8. Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar)
9. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
10. Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)
11. Bryan Magee (Cuchulainns)
12. Oisin Kiernan (Castlerahan)
13. Caoimhin O'Reilly (Butlersbridge)
14. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
15. Conor Bradley (Ramor United)

16. James Farrelly (Kingscourt)
17. Adrian Cole (Ramor United)
18. Niall Clerkin (Shercock)
19. Conor Madden (Gowna)
20. Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels)
21. Niall Murray (Cavan Gaels)
22. Conor Brady (Gowna)
23. Stephen Murray (Cavan Gaels)
24. Darragh Kennedy (Killygarry)
25. Fergal Reilly (Castlerahan)
26. Jack Wharton (Cornafean)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 23, 2018, 06:38:01 PM
Cavan team

1. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
2. Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels)
3. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
4. Enda Flanagan (Castlerahan)
5. Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
6. Ciaran Brady (Arvagh)
7. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
8. Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar)
9. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
10. Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)
11. Bryan Magee (Cuchulainns)
12. Oisin Kiernan (Castlerahan)
13. Caoimhin O'Reilly (Butlersbridge)
14. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
15. Conor Bradley (Ramor United)

16. James Farrelly (Kingscourt)
17. Adrian Cole (Ramor United)
18. Niall Clerkin (Shercock)
19. Conor Madden (Gowna)
20. Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels)
21. Niall Murray (Cavan Gaels)
22. Conor Brady (Gowna)
23. Stephen Murray (Cavan Gaels)
24. Darragh Kennedy (Killygarry)
25. Fergal Reilly (Castlerahan)
26. Jack Wharton (Cornafean)

Big boost having cian Mackey in from the start of presume, not sure what the reasoning behind him being on the bench most the year has been
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 23, 2018, 06:46:32 PM
Cavan team

1. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
2. Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels)
3. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
4. Enda Flanagan (Castlerahan)
5. Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
6. Ciaran Brady (Arvagh)
7. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
8. Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar)
9. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
10. Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)
11. Bryan Magee (Cuchulainns)
12. Oisin Kiernan (Castlerahan)
13. Caoimhin O'Reilly (Butlersbridge)
14. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
15. Conor Bradley (Ramor United)

16. James Farrelly (Kingscourt)
17. Adrian Cole (Ramor United)
18. Niall Clerkin (Shercock)
19. Conor Madden (Gowna)
20. Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels)
21. Niall Murray (Cavan Gaels)
22. Conor Brady (Gowna)
23. Stephen Murray (Cavan Gaels)
24. Darragh Kennedy (Killygarry)
25. Fergal Reilly (Castlerahan)
26. Jack Wharton (Cornafean)

Good team. Mattie looks to be going for it from the off, no holding big players in reserve.

Anyone know where Thomas Galligan is gone?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on March 23, 2018, 06:49:29 PM
Cavan team

1. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
2. Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels)
3. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
4. Enda Flanagan (Castlerahan)
5. Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
6. Ciaran Brady (Arvagh)
7. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
8. Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar)
9. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
10. Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)
11. Bryan Magee (Cuchulainns)
12. Oisin Kiernan (Castlerahan)
13. Caoimhin O'Reilly (Butlersbridge)
14. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
15. Conor Bradley (Ramor United)

16. James Farrelly (Kingscourt)
17. Adrian Cole (Ramor United)
18. Niall Clerkin (Shercock)
19. Conor Madden (Gowna)
20. Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels)
21. Niall Murray (Cavan Gaels)
22. Conor Brady (Gowna)
23. Stephen Murray (Cavan Gaels)
24. Darragh Kennedy (Killygarry)
25. Fergal Reilly (Castlerahan)
26. Jack Wharton (Cornafean)

Big boost having cian Mackey in from the start of presume, not sure what the reasoning behind him being on the bench most the year has been

Was back in late so getting back to fitness.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 23, 2018, 08:23:25 PM
That's an inexperienced enough looking team that Cork have named.

The only 2 left from the 2010 All-Ireland win are Colm O'Neill and Donncha O'Connor.

However even beyond that there's a serious chunk of lads named there who have never played Division 1 football for Cork.

Also further proof they current Cork football management can't count naming a squad of 27 this time out.

Roscommon will have no excuses if they can't get the win.

Like all in this division Roscommon are inconsistent, able to beat Cavan who were top and unbeaten last week but couldn't beat Down and Meath at home.

I don't think any of the Div 2 sides have many players left for 2010 which is 8 years ago now. Cork won Munster U21 titles 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2016 thats where the majority of their players should come from now and with that underage success they should be doing a lot better than they are currently

We've won our last four games and beaten both of the other teams who can be promoted. The only time we've lost this year at all is when Killer got himself sent off after ten minutes. What exactly is inconsistent about that?

entertaining reading all this just now....for what its worth, roscommon, cavan and tipp have been the best 3 teams, cavan and roscommon on the same points, tipp two points behind with one game less played. I dont think any can claim to be the best of the 3. Roscommon beat both but (not having been at the match) tipp were 6 points up with 5 mins to go and listening on the radio the better team for the majority, so on that bases roscommon have been just as inconsistent as the other two in terms of performances and having more or less matching results theyve been just as inconsistent/consistent on that basis. Non of this matters, the two that go up wont care how theyre thought of.

If inconsistent means being top of the league entering the last round of games having beaten the only two teams who even have a shot at promotion, I couldn't give a shít what we're called. Seven years ago we were hosting Kilkenny in the league.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Orchard park on March 23, 2018, 10:08:20 PM
Over the 6 games to date Ross have hardly strung together much with 70 minutes good football, overall have been under the cost more than they have imposed themselves,  are totally porous down the middle of defence , are only beginning to get midfield sorted yet top the group .......


Go figure
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 23, 2018, 10:22:47 PM
Over the 6 games to date Ross have hardly strung together much with 70 minutes good football, overall have been under the cost more than they have imposed themselves,  are totally porous down the middle of defence , are only beginning to get midfield sorted yet top the group .......


Go figure

Big teams don’t take this league stuff too seriously.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 23, 2018, 10:33:19 PM

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 24, 2018, 09:51:45 AM
Over the 6 games to date Ross have hardly strung together much with 70 minutes good football, overall have been under the cost more than they have imposed themselves,  are totally porous down the middle of defence , are only beginning to get midfield sorted yet top the group .......


Go figure
Good forwards who get a lot of scores in our good spurts (Down game excepted).
Only 1 wide last Sunday and only 2 ten minute periods on top.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 24, 2018, 01:55:33 PM
Over the 6 games to date Ross have hardly strung together much with 70 minutes good football, overall have been under the cost more than they have imposed themselves,  are totally porous down the middle of defence , are only beginning to get midfield sorted yet top the group .......


Go figure
Good forwards who get a lot of scores in our good spurts (Down game excepted).
Only 1 wide last Sunday and only 2 ten minute periods on top.

Yup. When you have top forwards you don't need 70 mins of being on top. You just get the ball to your best forwards during the periods you are in top.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on March 24, 2018, 02:26:01 PM
RTE on D2

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0322/949239-permutations-d-day-in-the-allianz-football-league/

Victories for Cavan and Roscommon (9 points - 6 games played) will see them make an immediate return to the top tier. However, a Breffni success against Tipperary (7 pts – 5 games played) and a loss for the Rossies against Cork would still see the Connacht side promoted.

In that scenario, Tipp's rearranged game with Down would be deemed meaningless as the Connacht outfit have the head-to-head advantage if both sides were to end up on nine points.

So, the Premier County have to win at Kingspan Breffni Park to stay firmly in the hunt for promotion.

Now things would get really interesting if both Roscommon and Cavan were to pick up no points in their final outing, with the latter then losing out on promotion if Tipperary were to beat Down in their final game. The scenario could have a knock-on effect in the race to avoid relegation.

As things stand. Louth are heading straight back to Division 3. Meath (3pts – 5 games played) will join them if they fail to beat Down (4 pts – 5 games played). The Mournemen would then have a three-point cushion over the Royals and so rendering the latter’s outstanding game with Louth meaningless.

Flipping things on its head and two points for the Royals would leave much to play for when the two rearranged games are played.

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 24, 2018, 02:41:01 PM
What a great League D2 is compared to the boring D1 with all its dead rubbers.
You'd almost be sorry to leave it!!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 24, 2018, 02:52:18 PM
What a great League D2 is compared to the boring D1 with all its dead rubbers.
You'd almost be sorry to leave it!!

I'll be very sorry to leave it tomorrow (if that's what happens)!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 24, 2018, 03:24:59 PM
Evan Comerford having a dip form or the 2nd choice Tippearary goalkeeper just given some game time?

 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on March 24, 2018, 03:25:16 PM
Over the 6 games to date Ross have hardly strung together much with 70 minutes good football, overall have been under the cost more than they have imposed themselves,  are totally porous down the middle of defence , are only beginning to get midfield sorted yet top the group .......


Go figure

Big teams don’t take this league stuff too seriously.

+1
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 24, 2018, 05:29:05 PM
Evan Comerford having a dip form or the 2nd choice Tippearary goalkeeper just given some game time?

Not sure to be honest, kenrick done well last year while comerford was suspended and done well again against Louth two weeks ago when he played.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 24, 2018, 07:43:05 PM
Promises to be a great game in Breffni tomorrow. Bookies have all Cavan as favourites the can be got at 10/11 but most have at 5/6. Most have Tipp at 7/5 but they can be got at 5/4 with bet fred. Bookies say a point or two to Cavan. I hope they are right.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Horse Box on March 24, 2018, 10:18:14 PM
Evan Comerford having a dip form or the 2nd choice Tippearary goalkeeper just given some game time?

His kicking has been poor this year , kicking balls out over the sideline , failing to find Teammates etc !
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Aaron Boone on March 24, 2018, 11:11:26 PM
Evan Comerford having a dip form or the 2nd choice Tippearary goalkeeper just given some game time?

His kicking has been poor this year , kicking balls out over the sideline , failing to find Teammates etc !
Nowadays a cardinal sin 4 a goalie for kicks.  They used to stop goals being scored way back.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on March 25, 2018, 03:28:12 PM
Tipp a goal ahead
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on March 25, 2018, 03:30:03 PM
Good start for Meath with 2 early goals.
This never ends well.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on March 25, 2018, 03:38:53 PM
Good start for Meath with 2 early goals.
This never ends well.
Meath need to model a different kind of second half
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Ambrose on March 25, 2018, 04:05:02 PM
Dark clouds over Navan, Down don't like the rain.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: our_fella on March 25, 2018, 04:45:48 PM
So donegal Kildare are down. Armagh and Fermanagh are up.. What way that leave division 2 for next year?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on March 25, 2018, 04:48:57 PM
Cavan & Rossies up to Division 1.
Louth plus Down (likely) or Meath (less likely but not unlikely) down to Division 3.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 25, 2018, 04:50:02 PM
Cavan & Rossies up to Division 1.
Louth plus Down (likely) or Meath (less likely but not unlikely) down to Division 3.

Will Louth and Tipp even fulfill the fixtures?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 25, 2018, 04:56:30 PM
Needless to say I'm delighted with Cavan's performance today, securing promotion. McGleenan has gone from a somewhat lampooned and derided figure to having earned the respect and gratitude of every Cavan supporter by equalling Terry Hyland's achievement in rapidly getting us back to the top flight at his first time of asking. Despite being shorn of some of the talent his predecessor had he worked with what was left to him and added to it, and achieved something no Cavan supporter thought possible, just three months ago. Congratulations to all concerned. McGleenan has totally turned things around and if he manages to make some sort of impact in championship - a whole different ball game as we've seen in other years - then we might be on to something special.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on March 25, 2018, 05:04:33 PM
Cavan & Rossies up to Division 1.
Louth plus Down (likely) or Meath (less likely but not unlikely) down to Division 3.

Will Louth and Tipp even fulfill the fixtures?

They have to.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 25, 2018, 05:04:41 PM
We really don’t like spending any extra time in D2. The most satisfying part of it is we topped the division without ever playing our best.

Not bad for such an ‘inconsistent’ team..
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 25, 2018, 05:07:32 PM
Holy f**k what a finish.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 25, 2018, 05:14:43 PM
Holy f**k what a finish.

Congrats, Itchy.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on March 25, 2018, 05:19:54 PM
Cavan and Ros star in up and down like a whore''s knickers
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: The Boy Wonder on March 25, 2018, 05:24:24 PM
Louth (and Pete McGrath) can do Down a favour and beat Meath - Down would then stay up if they beat Tipp - am I correct ?
If both Meath and Down win then Down on 6 points same as Cork - Down relegated on head to head rule ?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on March 25, 2018, 05:27:17 PM
We really don’t like spending any extra time in D2. The most satisfying part of it is we topped the division without ever playing our best.

Not bad for such an ‘inconsistent’ team..

Enjoy the sabbatical, Syf.
Bring us back a stick of rock.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 25, 2018, 05:38:26 PM
Holy f**k what a finish.

Savage. Madden has no real football since the Clare game and comes on and takes on that shot. Brilliant.
Thouhht Johnston was class when he came on too, point attempt aside.
And McVeety is just unreal, the best player on the field today by a distance.

We weren't great today. But they got the job done.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Avondhu star on March 25, 2018, 05:46:59 PM
Very good performances by Cavan and Roscommon today. McGleenan and McStay have done good jobs there and can look forward to the Summer campaign. Must be in with a good chance of being in the so called "Super Eight"

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 25, 2018, 05:49:27 PM
Holy f**k what a finish.

Savage. Madden has no real football since the Clare game and comes on and takes on that shot. Brilliant.
Thouhht Johnston was class when he came on too, point attempt aside.
And McVeety is just unreal, the best player on the field today by a distance.

We weren't great today. But they got the job done.

Madden is that sort of player. He can kick one from 40m of his left when his tail is up as he's bundles of ability. It's all about confidence. Tipp will feel very unlucky they lost but it's same with us maybe last week. Very little between top 3 teams so I'm delighted we just did enough. Only lead once in the game, 39 5 mins into 2nd half. Hard luck Tipp though a really good team that could do damage in Munster. Only advice id give is the management team would want to stop going mad on the sideline as it' just panics the players.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on March 25, 2018, 06:03:02 PM
Cavan need a good run in the championship.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 25, 2018, 06:41:19 PM
Holy f**k what a finish.

Savage. Madden has no real football since the Clare game and comes on and takes on that shot. Brilliant.
Thouhht Johnston was class when he came on too, point attempt aside.
And McVeety is just unreal, the best player on the field today by a distance.

We weren't great today. But they got the job done.

Madden is that sort of player. He can kick one from 40m of his left when his tail is up as he's bundles of ability. It's all about confidence. Tipp will feel very unlucky they lost but it's same with us maybe last week. Very little between top 3 teams so I'm delighted we just did enough. Only lead once in the game, 39 5 mins into 2nd half. Hard luck Tipp though a really good team that could do damage in Munster. Only advice id give is the management team would want to stop going mad on the sideline as it' just panics the players.

Well done, I'm a bit all over the place, I thought the ref was very poor (hope this part isn't picked up on) but not the losing of it, we kicked it away at the end with the chances we missed and also Cavan done a job on us aswell in a complimentary way towards ye. The match we threw away against roscommon was the one that cost us. Still gets at you the amount you hear today that Cavan shouldn't be losing to a hurling county and have no business in div 1 if "we can't beat the likes of tipp", there's not a whole lot if anything between tipp rossies and Cavan  (most on here would agree to be fair, not having a pop at this place). Bitterly disappointed I think next year will be easier finish 3rd last and survive division 1 than finish top 2 and get promoted. Best of luck to ye next year
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: From the Bunker on March 25, 2018, 06:41:56 PM
Cavan need a good run in the championship.

No sh1t Sherlock?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on March 25, 2018, 06:47:52 PM
Cavan need a good run in the championship.

No sh1t Sherlock?
Otherwise today probably won't mean much
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: From the Bunker on March 25, 2018, 06:56:46 PM
Cavan need a good run in the championship.

No sh1t Sherlock?
Otherwise today probably won't mean much
You mean like Galway getting promotion last year and not having a good run in the Championship didn't mean much? Sometimes you have to put more eggs into one basket!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 25, 2018, 07:15:33 PM
Cavan need a good run in the championship.

No sh1t Sherlock?
Otherwise today probably won't mean much
You mean like Galway getting promotion last year and not having a good run in the Championship didn't mean much? Sometimes you have to put more eggs into one basket!

What if you perfectly balance your eggs and have nearly three months to prepare for a provincial final, Bunker? 8)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: From the Bunker on March 25, 2018, 07:25:17 PM
Cavan need a good run in the championship.

No sh1t Sherlock?
Otherwise today probably won't mean much
You mean like Galway getting promotion last year and not having a good run in the Championship didn't mean much? Sometimes you have to put more eggs into one basket!

What if you perfectly balance your eggs and have nearly three months to prepare for a provincial final, Bunker? 8)

That's the plan for any intercounty Manager. It comes down to a bit of good fortune with what way your fixtures pan out and injuries. What risks you have to take early on in the League and in the Championship.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on March 25, 2018, 07:34:42 PM
Cavan need a good run in the championship.

No sh1t Sherlock?
Otherwise today probably won't mean much
You mean like Galway getting promotion last year and not having a good run in the Championship didn't mean much? Sometimes you have to put more eggs into one basket!
Last year was a disappointment. Even if there had been mean reversion and Galway had beaten the shite out of Ros but lost to Kerry it would have been disappointing. The team didn't perform.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on March 25, 2018, 07:36:41 PM
Good win for Cavan today but Tipp were the better team. Their movement and attacking play was great to watch. Red card the difference.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 25, 2018, 07:40:42 PM
Good win for Cavan today but Tipp were the better team. Their movement and attacking play was great to watch. Red card the difference.

Must disagree with you there, thought we were poor going forward and Cavan did very well with their gameplay. There wasn't much between the teams, I'd struggle to say one was better than the other, was a fairly even game
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 25, 2018, 07:46:10 PM
Good win for Cavan today but Tipp were the better team. Their movement and attacking play was great to watch. Red card the difference.

Must disagree with you there, thought we were poor going forward and Cavan did very well with their gameplay. There wasn't much between the teams, I'd struggle to say one was better than the other, was a fairly even game

Yes it was evenly matched but neither sweeney or quinlivan scored from play which is pretty incredible
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 25, 2018, 07:55:32 PM
Good win for Cavan today but Tipp were the better team. Their movement and attacking play was great to watch. Red card the difference.

Must disagree with you there, thought we were poor going forward and Cavan did very well with their gameplay. There wasn't much between the teams, I'd struggle to say one was better than the other, was a fairly even game

Commiserations Tippabu, Tipp were definitely the best team we played in the league this year. That wild finish in Semple defined both teams seasons.

If more teams played football like ye do this sport would be very easy on the eyes.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 25, 2018, 08:08:18 PM
Good win for Cavan today but Tipp were the better team. Their movement and attacking play was great to watch. Red card the difference.

Must disagree with you there, thought we were poor going forward and Cavan did very well with their gameplay. There wasn't much between the teams, I'd struggle to say one was better than the other, was a fairly even game

Yes it was evenly matched but neither sweeney or quinlivan scored from play which is pretty incredible

Sweeney got 1 from play but that's what I mean, yer gameplay was spot on, nullified Sweeney and quinlivan and killed us on the kickouts. Ye got it right today
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 25, 2018, 08:08:57 PM
Might be a blessing in disguise that Tipp didn't get promoted as they probably need another year div 2 before making the step up to Div one. Roscommon and Cavan have showed a lot of character to bounce back from last years relegation.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 25, 2018, 08:11:31 PM
Good win for Cavan today but Tipp were the better team. Their movement and attacking play was great to watch. Red card the difference.

Must disagree with you there, thought we were poor going forward and Cavan did very well with their gameplay. There wasn't much between the teams, I'd struggle to say one was better than the other, was a fairly even game

Commiserations Tippabu, Tipp were definitely the best team we played in the league this year. That wild finish in Semple defines both teams seasons.

If more teams played football like ye do this sport would be very easy on the eyes.

We try!! Games like these will hopefully bring us on more and can learn from them
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on March 25, 2018, 08:13:13 PM
Might be a blessing in disguise that Tipp didn't get promoted as they probably need another year div 2 before making the step up to Div one. Roscommon and Cavan have showed a lot of character to bounce back from last years relegation.
I was thinking the same re Tipp. Another year in D2 is no harm.
 They are definitely a coming team.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: AZOffaly on March 25, 2018, 08:30:16 PM
Might be a blessing in disguise that Tipp didn't get promoted as they probably need another year div 2 before making the step up to Div one. Roscommon and Cavan have showed a lot of character to bounce back from last years relegation.
I was thinking the same re Tipp. Another year in D2 is no harm.
 They are definitely a coming team.
I understand the sentiment and certainly another year of D2 football will help.  However with kildare and donegal coming down and armagh and fermanagh coming up its not going to be easy to go up. Probably 3 munster 3 ulster and 2 leinster in D2 next year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 25, 2018, 08:58:22 PM
Farewell Div 2 as we once more have to play Cavan for what must be the 10th time in recent years.
Today we had 2 good spurts once again -1st 15 minutes and a short burst from 50 to 60 minutes when we reacted well to going behind.
Subs esp Ends and "Cregger" put more life into us.
Kilroy certainly burned the boiler today and Harney had a mighty game too.
Defence very porous looking in the first half but did tighten up in the second keeping Cork to 4 points.
O'Neill missing those late frees helped though.
So we've been hit and miss, dropped points to 2 of the bottom 3 but still its mission accomplished and a day out in Croker.
That'll do just grand for Feb/March.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on March 25, 2018, 10:20:50 PM
Tipp are probably missing a bit of cuteness. Losing to Cavan on the last day also happened to Galway the year before they got promoted.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: FermGael on March 25, 2018, 10:26:16 PM
Rossies obviously running scared of a trip to Brewster next year.......
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on March 25, 2018, 10:36:38 PM
Tipp are probably missing a bit of cuteness. Losing to Cavan on the last day also happened to Galway the year before they got promoted.

I thought they were cute enough. Fouled anytime Cavan looking to break and bought frees well. That's not a criticism.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 25, 2018, 10:44:46 PM
Tipp are probably missing a bit of cuteness. Losing to Cavan on the last day also happened to Galway the year before they got promoted.

I thought they were cute enough. Fouled anytime Cavan looking to break and bought frees well. That's not a criticism.

It was an intriguing game tactically played with championship intensity but also with a lot of mistakes. Tipp had a really clever kick out strategy but cavan got wise to it in 2nd half and dominated primary possession in last quarter but even with 14 men Tipp were a powerful running team but missed 3 vert scorable points and a saved goal chance. Cavan missed a lot too but probably not as scorable chances as Tipp. I thought gearoid didn't play at all today a worrying trend in big games. It was mcvitty, Ciaran holla Brady and Martin Reilly that took the fight to Tipp and Mackey was influential in last 10 mins. Tipp are a very good team and every bit as good as cavan or Roscommon just the bounce of a ball in it. Brilliant for cavan gaa to get back to div1 and test ourselves against the best. Now can we finally get one over on the Rossies for once?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on March 25, 2018, 11:02:14 PM
Tipp are probably missing a bit of cuteness. Losing to Cavan on the last day also happened to Galway the year before they got promoted.

I thought they were cute enough. Fouled anytime Cavan looking to break and bought frees well. That's not a criticism.

It was an intriguing game tactically played with championship intensity but also with a lot of mistakes. Tipp had a really clever kick out strategy but cavan got wise to it in 2nd half and dominated primary possession in last quarter but even with 14 men Tipp were a powerful running team but missed 3 vert scorable points and a saved goal chance. Cavan missed a lot too but probably not as scorable chances as Tipp. I thought gearoid didn't play at all today a worrying trend in big games. It was mcvitty, Ciaran holla Brady and Martin Reilly that took the fight to Tipp and Mackey was influential in last 10 mins. Tipp are a very good team and every bit as good as cavan or Roscommon just the bounce of a ball in it. Brilliant for cavan gaa to get back to div1 and test ourselves against the best. Now can we finally get one over on the Rossies for once?


Thought Faulkner very good too. Not a lot of help. Jason just wants to attack. Galliagn class again. Two great catches, big save and big interception.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 25, 2018, 11:14:30 PM
Tipp were good. Would probably have won that game if they had stayed kept 15 on the pitch. Even with 14 they had the chances to win it but hit a couple of bad wides at key times that kept Cavan in touching distance.

There are a few passengers on the Cavan team but we have lads like McVeety and Ciaran the Holla that are exceptional and want to take on responsibility. McVeety's ability to ghost past players from a standing start is remarkable. A little more end product is needed but when he's fit he's our best player. Bradley needs to put on about 2 stone of muscle before he'll be properly able for this level but he looks to have the ability.

Hard to know what to make of the Roscommon game. There's not much between us, never has been over the past few years. I do think they have been better and are better than us now, but with the margin being fairly thin surely we'll get over the line against them at some stage?
It's all bonus territory but I think a Division 2 title will mean a lot more to these Cavan players who have empty pockets when it comes to silverware at Senior Level. Hopefully that counts for something on the day.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 26, 2018, 02:00:38 AM
Securing promotion and a trophy would make the defeat at the Hyde pretty meaningless as well as get that Roscommon gorilla off our backs. There's so little between the sides that the dominance of the Ros over us is hard to fathom. If we can't beat them in this one, we might never.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 26, 2018, 02:32:01 AM
Securing promotion and a trophy would make the defeat at the Hyde pretty meaningless as well as get that Roscommon gorilla off our backs. There's so little between the sides that the dominance of the Ros over us is hard to fathom. If we can't beat them in this one, we might never.

Ye still wouldn't have beaten us when it mattered, though.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 26, 2018, 06:01:26 AM
It seemed at the time like it mattered more - because it did, at the time - but the next game is more important especially to Cavan. If we both get promoted and we have a trophy too plus a long awaited win over Ros, I think nobody will be muttering into their pints about how terrible it was to lose in the Hyde. Apart from yourself, maybe. 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 26, 2018, 09:46:00 AM
Securing promotion and a trophy would make the defeat at the Hyde pretty meaningless as well as get that Roscommon gorilla off our backs. There's so little between the sides that the dominance of the Ros over us is hard to fathom. If we can't beat them in this one, we might never.
Roscommon underage teams have been beating Cavan for years
that comes through to senior
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 26, 2018, 10:22:20 AM
Securing promotion and a trophy would make the defeat at the Hyde pretty meaningless as well as get that Roscommon gorilla off our backs. There's so little between the sides that the dominance of the Ros over us is hard to fathom. If we can't beat them in this one, we might never.
Roscommon underage teams have been beating Cavan for years
that comes through to senior

You mean the one time they beat us in 2012 at U21?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on March 26, 2018, 10:23:31 AM
Lads, take it to the Division 1 thread and stop annoying the rest of us.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 26, 2018, 10:59:30 AM
Are you not gone to D3 yet?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: weareros on March 26, 2018, 11:16:38 AM
It seemed at the time like it mattered more - because it did, at the time - but the next game is more important especially to Cavan. If we both get promoted and we have a trophy too plus a long awaited win over Ros, I think nobody will be muttering into their pints about how terrible it was to lose in the Hyde. Apart from yourself, maybe.

Whoever wins would be advised to not get too carried away. When we last won Div 2 final in Croke Park, we were quickly brought down to earth by beatings from both Sligo and Fermanagh in championship, both Div 3 teams at the time. Ros and Cavan have done their main job, this match is a glorified challenge.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: oliverkelly on March 26, 2018, 11:26:20 AM
It seemed at the time like it mattered more - because it did, at the time - but the next game is more important especially to Cavan. If we both get promoted and we have a trophy too plus a long awaited win over Ros, I think nobody will be muttering into their pints about how terrible it was to lose in the Hyde. Apart from yourself, maybe.

Whoever wins would be advised to not get too carried away. When we last won Div 2 final in Croke Park, we were quickly brought down to earth by beatings from both Sligo and Fermanagh in championship, both Div 3 teams at the time. Ros and Cavan have done their main job, this match is a glorified challenge.

True but always nice to win silverware. Would mean more to Cavan than us tbh with us winning it three years ago.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 26, 2018, 11:50:31 AM
Lads, take it to the Division 1 thread and stop annoying the rest of us.

I'll miss the handy wins against Meath next year
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 26, 2018, 12:39:38 PM
These Divisional Finals are meaningless  glorified challenge matches.
Still be nice to have an oul trip to Croker and if we get a shiny cupeen sure why not.
Will there be extra time and free taking if required?
Be great to hold up the  Moneybags and Herrin chokers while we take our frees.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 26, 2018, 12:55:56 PM
All due respect to Roscommon but the calls that this game is meaningless are bullshit. Roscommon put in one performance against a serious team last year and had their provincial title. They can do the same this year. It's a cheap title, but sure we'd love a cheap title ourselves. Cavan don't have a chance like that so beating a good Roscommon team on a big day in Croke Park with a cup up for grabs is a big game for us.

If Roscommon were facing into Donegal, Derry, Down and Tyrone to win their provincial title instead of Leitrim and Galway and the consequent positioning in the AI series I don't think they'd be brushing this off as a challenge game either.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 26, 2018, 01:31:32 PM
All due respect to Roscommon but the calls that this game is meaningless are bullshit. Roscommon put in one performance against a serious team last year and had their provincial title. They can do the same this year. It's a cheap title, but sure we'd love a cheap title ourselves. Cavan don't have a chance like that so beating a good Roscommon team on a big day in Croke Park with a cup up for grabs is a big game for us.

If Roscommon were facing into Donegal, Derry, Down and Tyrone to win their provincial title instead of Leitrim and Galway and the consequent positioning in the AI series I don't think they'd be brushing this off as a challenge game either.

Id fall in the middle, it's a national final and you do want to win it but the tipp Cavan match was 10 times more important. If you lose the league final it's going to be a lot easier getting over that than losing a game for promotion
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: weareros on March 26, 2018, 01:35:15 PM
All due respect to Roscommon but the calls that this game is meaningless are bullshit. Roscommon put in one performance against a serious team last year and had their provincial title. They can do the same this year. It's a cheap title, but sure we'd love a cheap title ourselves. Cavan don't have a chance like that so beating a good Roscommon team on a big day in Croke Park with a cup up for grabs is a big game for us.

If Roscommon were facing into Donegal, Derry, Down and Tyrone to win their provincial title instead of Leitrim and Galway and the consequent positioning in the AI series I don't think they'd be brushing this off as a challenge game either.

Roscommon did get the luck of the draw in Connacht the last two years, but the Connacht championship has only one less game than the Ulster championship. And the reality when it comes to championship football both Mayo and Galway are better than any team in Ulster, so nothing is won cheaply in the west. As I said, we beat Cavan for the Div 3 title and Down for the Div 2 title and John Evans was hopping around like we won the All-Ireland, and we were off with our tail between our legs before Summer was over. All I'm saying is don't get carried away. Donegal, Derry and Down are in poor shape at the moment, and Cavan should be aiming to win an Ulster title and get into the last 8. Of course, I now hope we'll bate seven shades of shite out of ye for besmirching our Connacht title.


Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Horse Box on March 26, 2018, 02:14:04 PM
Holy f**k what a finish.

Savage. Madden has no real football since the Clare game and comes on and takes on that shot. Brilliant.
Thouhht Johnston was class when he came on too, point attempt aside.
And McVeety is just unreal, the best player on the field today by a distance.

We weren't great today. But they got the job done.

Madden is that sort of player. He can kick one from 40m of his left when his tail is up as he's bundles of ability. It's all about confidence. Tipp will feel very unlucky they lost but it's same with us maybe last week. Very little between top 3 teams so I'm delighted we just did enough. Only lead once in the game, 39 5 mins into 2nd half. Hard luck Tipp though a really good team that could do damage in Munster. Only advice id give is the management team would want to stop going mad on the sideline as it' just panics the players.

Well done, I'm a bit all over the place, I thought the ref was very poor (hope this part isn't picked up on) but not the losing of it, we kicked it away at the end with the chances we missed and also Cavan done a job on us aswell in a complimentary way towards ye. The match we threw away against roscommon was the one that cost us. Still gets at you the amount you hear today that Cavan shouldn't be losing to a hurling county and have no business in div 1 if "we can't beat the likes of tipp", there's not a whole lot if anything between tipp rossies and Cavan  (most on here would agree to be fair, not having a pop at this place). Bitterly disappointed I think next year will be easier finish 3rd last and survive division 1 than finish top 2 and get promoted. Best of luck to ye next year

The Ref was diabolical ! Enda Flanagan elbowed Fox in the Head in lead up to the second goal , panned out Bill Maher and went in hard on Evan Comerford and no action taken ! The linesman David Coldrick got Casey sent off and not for the first time he has been responsable for screwing Tipp !
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on March 26, 2018, 02:19:55 PM
All due respect to Roscommon but the calls that this game is meaningless are bullshit. Roscommon put in one performance against a serious team last year and had their provincial title. They can do the same this year. It's a cheap title, but sure we'd love a cheap title ourselves. Cavan don't have a chance like that so beating a good Roscommon team on a big day in Croke Park with a cup up for grabs is a big game for us.

If Roscommon were facing into Donegal, Derry, Down and Tyrone to win their provincial title instead of Leitrim and Galway and the consequent positioning in the AI series I don't think they'd be brushing this off as a challenge game either.

Id fall in the middle, it's a national final and you do want to win it but the tipp Cavan match was 10 times more important. If you lose the league final it's going to be a lot easier getting over that than losing a game for promotion

Getting promoted is like going to college. If you are not ready for it it is better to wait.
Tipp need a bit more work. There is no shame in that.
The wider football landscape is very interesting with Tyrone, Mayo and Kerry performing poorly.  A few places may be up for grabs over the next few years. no reason why Tipp couldn't be there.

Ros and Cavan could come straight back down next year as well.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 26, 2018, 02:25:22 PM
Holy f**k what a finish.

Savage. Madden has no real football since the Clare game and comes on and takes on that shot. Brilliant.
Thouhht Johnston was class when he came on too, point attempt aside.
And McVeety is just unreal, the best player on the field today by a distance.

We weren't great today. But they got the job done.

Madden is that sort of player. He can kick one from 40m of his left when his tail is up as he's bundles of ability. It's all about confidence. Tipp will feel very unlucky they lost but it's same with us maybe last week. Very little between top 3 teams so I'm delighted we just did enough. Only lead once in the game, 39 5 mins into 2nd half. Hard luck Tipp though a really good team that could do damage in Munster. Only advice id give is the management team would want to stop going mad on the sideline as it' just panics the players.

Well done, I'm a bit all over the place, I thought the ref was very poor (hope this part isn't picked up on) but not the losing of it, we kicked it away at the end with the chances we missed and also Cavan done a job on us aswell in a complimentary way towards ye. The match we threw away against roscommon was the one that cost us. Still gets at you the amount you hear today that Cavan shouldn't be losing to a hurling county and have no business in div 1 if "we can't beat the likes of tipp", there's not a whole lot if anything between tipp rossies and Cavan  (most on here would agree to be fair, not having a pop at this place). Bitterly disappointed I think next year will be easier finish 3rd last and survive division 1 than finish top 2 and get promoted. Best of luck to ye next year

The Ref was diabolical ! Enda Flanagan elbowed Fox in the Head in lead up to the second goal , panned out Bill Maher and went in hard on Evan Comerford and no action taken ! The linesman David Coldrick got Casey sent off and not for the first time he has been responsable for screwing Tipp !

Casey deserved to be sent off
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on March 26, 2018, 02:27:42 PM
Here tippabu, ye better send a decent team up to Newry
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: AZOffaly on March 26, 2018, 02:30:16 PM
Here tippabu, ye better send a decent team up to Newry

They should send the u20s now.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on March 26, 2018, 02:32:38 PM
Also known as, 'The Kildare Option'.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Horse Box on March 26, 2018, 02:35:32 PM
Holy f**k what a finish.

Savage. Madden has no real football since the Clare game and comes on and takes on that shot. Brilliant.
Thouhht Johnston was class when he came on too, point attempt aside.
And McVeety is just unreal, the best player on the field today by a distance.

We weren't great today. But they got the job done.

Madden is that sort of player. He can kick one from 40m of his left when his tail is up as he's bundles of ability. It's all about confidence. Tipp will feel very unlucky they lost but it's same with us maybe last week. Very little between top 3 teams so I'm delighted we just did enough. Only lead once in the game, 39 5 mins into 2nd half. Hard luck Tipp though a really good team that could do damage in Munster. Only advice id give is the management team would want to stop going mad on the sideline as it' just panics the players.

Well done, I'm a bit all over the place, I thought the ref was very poor (hope this part isn't picked up on) but not the losing of it, we kicked it away at the end with the chances we missed and also Cavan done a job on us aswell in a complimentary way towards ye. The match we threw away against roscommon was the one that cost us. Still gets at you the amount you hear today that Cavan shouldn't be losing to a hurling county and have no business in div 1 if "we can't beat the likes of tipp", there's not a whole lot if anything between tipp rossies and Cavan  (most on here would agree to be fair, not having a pop at this place). Bitterly disappointed I think next year will be easier finish 3rd last and survive division 1 than finish top 2 and get promoted. Best of luck to ye next year

The Ref was diabolical ! Enda Flanagan elbowed Fox in the Head in lead up to the second goal , panned out Bill Maher and went in hard on Evan Comerford and no action taken ! The linesman David Coldrick got Casey sent off and not for the first time he has been responsable for screwing Tipp !

Casey deserved to be sent off

I`ve heard different views on it however the 2 frees at the end of the game were bad calls and how do you explain Enda Flanagan getting away with 3 yellow/red card offences ?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 26, 2018, 02:46:39 PM
Here tippabu, ye better send a decent team up to Newry

If ye can't beat Louth I'd start focusing on hurling if I were ye!! We shouldn't consider anyone who's in consideration for the championship
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 26, 2018, 02:57:55 PM
Holy f**k what a finish.

Savage. Madden has no real football since the Clare game and comes on and takes on that shot. Brilliant.
Thouhht Johnston was class when he came on too, point attempt aside.
And McVeety is just unreal, the best player on the field today by a distance.

We weren't great today. But they got the job done.

Madden is that sort of player. He can kick one from 40m of his left when his tail is up as he's bundles of ability. It's all about confidence. Tipp will feel very unlucky they lost but it's same with us maybe last week. Very little between top 3 teams so I'm delighted we just did enough. Only lead once in the game, 39 5 mins into 2nd half. Hard luck Tipp though a really good team that could do damage in Munster. Only advice id give is the management team would want to stop going mad on the sideline as it' just panics the players.

Well done, I'm a bit all over the place, I thought the ref was very poor (hope this part isn't picked up on) but not the losing of it, we kicked it away at the end with the chances we missed and also Cavan done a job on us aswell in a complimentary way towards ye. The match we threw away against roscommon was the one that cost us. Still gets at you the amount you hear today that Cavan shouldn't be losing to a hurling county and have no business in div 1 if "we can't beat the likes of tipp", there's not a whole lot if anything between tipp rossies and Cavan  (most on here would agree to be fair, not having a pop at this place). Bitterly disappointed I think next year will be easier finish 3rd last and survive division 1 than finish top 2 and get promoted. Best of luck to ye next year

The Ref was diabolical ! Enda Flanagan elbowed Fox in the Head in lead up to the second goal , panned out Bill Maher and went in hard on Evan Comerford and no action taken ! The linesman David Coldrick got Casey sent off and not for the first time he has been responsable for screwing Tipp !

Casey deserved to be sent off

I`ve heard different views on it however the 2 frees at the end of the game were bad calls and how do you explain Enda Flanagan getting away with 3 yellow/red card offences ?


Highlights on YouTube and rte player, looks to me like he swung a right arm. I agree and said I thought the ref was bad but that's coming from a very biased stance. I'd focus more on what we can control and this was yet another big game we were leading in the closing stages and couldn't see out the game when we should have.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Horse Box on March 26, 2018, 03:04:18 PM
Holy f**k what a finish.

Savage. Madden has no real football since the Clare game and comes on and takes on that shot. Brilliant.
Thouhht Johnston was class when he came on too, point attempt aside.
And McVeety is just unreal, the best player on the field today by a distance.

We weren't great today. But they got the job done.

Madden is that sort of player. He can kick one from 40m of his left when his tail is up as he's bundles of ability. It's all about confidence. Tipp will feel very unlucky they lost but it's same with us maybe last week. Very little between top 3 teams so I'm delighted we just did enough. Only lead once in the game, 39 5 mins into 2nd half. Hard luck Tipp though a really good team that could do damage in Munster. Only advice id give is the management team would want to stop going mad on the sideline as it' just panics the players.

Well done, I'm a bit all over the place, I thought the ref was very poor (hope this part isn't picked up on) but not the losing of it, we kicked it away at the end with the chances we missed and also Cavan done a job on us aswell in a complimentary way towards ye. The match we threw away against roscommon was the one that cost us. Still gets at you the amount you hear today that Cavan shouldn't be losing to a hurling county and have no business in div 1 if "we can't beat the likes of tipp", there's not a whole lot if anything between tipp rossies and Cavan  (most on here would agree to be fair, not having a pop at this place). Bitterly disappointed I think next year will be easier finish 3rd last and survive division 1 than finish top 2 and get promoted. Best of luck to ye next year

The Ref was diabolical ! Enda Flanagan elbowed Fox in the Head in lead up to the second goal , panned out Bill Maher and went in hard on Evan Comerford and no action taken ! The linesman David Coldrick got Casey sent off and not for the first time he has been responsable for screwing Tipp !

Casey deserved to be sent off

I`ve heard different views on it however the 2 frees at the end of the game were bad calls and how do you explain Enda Flanagan getting away with 3 yellow/red card offences ?


Highlights on YouTube and rte player, looks to me like he swung a right arm. I agree and said I thought the ref was bad but that's coming from a very biased stance. I'd focus more on what we can control and this was yet another big game we were leading in the closing stages and couldn't see out the game when we should have.

Just seen it on Youtube , can`t see being any different from many challenges you would see in Football , yellow maybe . What you can see in the video is the Cavan Mentor beside Coldrick who was beside him and in his ear the whole game !
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 26, 2018, 03:07:38 PM
All due respect to Roscommon but the calls that this game is meaningless are bullshit. Roscommon put in one performance against a serious team last year and had their provincial title. They can do the same this year. It's a cheap title, but sure we'd love a cheap title ourselves. Cavan don't have a chance like that so beating a good Roscommon team on a big day in Croke Park with a cup up for grabs is a big game for us.

If Roscommon were facing into Donegal, Derry, Down and Tyrone to win their provincial title instead of Leitrim and Galway and the consequent positioning in the AI series I don't think they'd be brushing this off as a challenge game either.

Connacht contains three of the top seven teams in Ireland. Derry are D4, Donegal D2 and Down may well be D3 this time next week too. If Cavan can’t beat those types of teams they aren’t going very far no matter what province they’re in, let alone the best one.

D2 league final is completely meaningless. A nice, no stakes day out. The match at the Hyde last week had a lot more on the line for both teams. This one is a challenge game.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on March 26, 2018, 03:11:44 PM
We get it, Syf.
You don't care about the final.
Not one bit.
No Sirree.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 26, 2018, 03:14:43 PM
We get it, Syf.
You don't care about the final.
Not one bit.
No Sirree.

I can’t even remember the last time we won the FBD.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 26, 2018, 03:15:41 PM
Also known as, 'The Kildare Option'.

You should be thanking us. Bunch of w**kers up in that Division 1.

Looking forward to hearing there are 3 Connacht team s in Division ad nauseam for the next 6 months. As if it matters the pick of them won't beat Dublin.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 26, 2018, 03:21:59 PM
Also known as, 'The Kildare Option'.

You should be thanking us. Bunch of w**kers up in that Division 1.

Looking forward to hearing there are 3 Connacht team s in Division ad nauseam for the next 6 months. As if it matters the pick of them won't beat Dublin.
Don't know about that as Monaghan with a smaller pick than Galway and Mayo beat the mighty Dubs yesterday.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 26, 2018, 03:28:27 PM
Also known as, 'The Kildare Option'.

You should be thanking us. Bunch of w**kers up in that Division 1.

Looking forward to hearing there are 3 Connacht team s in Division ad nauseam for the next 6 months. As if it matters the pick of them won't beat Dublin.

You don’t think the best of Galway and Roscommon added to a team that have been a point off Dublin in the AI final for two years wouldn’t have beat them?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 26, 2018, 03:47:34 PM
Not one Roscommon player would make the Dublin side, struggling also to make a case for any Galway player and apart from Keegan, Colm Boyle and AOS not another Mayo player. Mayo are the epitomy of a team playing well above the team of their parts, they are a band of brothers, adding players from outside won't improve that, those from outside wouldn't have suffered and died with their boots on. Mayo are a special band of brothers, Roscommon and this Galway team, too flaky too soft. 
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 26, 2018, 04:02:09 PM
Not one Roscommon player would make the Dublin side, struggling also to make a case for any Galway player and apart from Keegan, Colm Boyle and AOS not another Mayo player. Mayo are the epitomy of a team playing well above the team of their parts, they are a band of brothers, adding players from outside won't improve that, those from outside wouldn't have suffered and died with their boots on. Mayo are a special band of brothers, Roscommon and this Galway team, too flaky too soft.

Mayo have shíte forwards. Better forwards means a better team.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 26, 2018, 04:06:34 PM
Not one Roscommon player would make the Dublin side, struggling also to make a case for any Galway player and apart from Keegan, Colm Boyle and AOS not another Mayo player. Mayo are the epitomy of a team playing well above the team of their parts, they are a band of brothers, adding players from outside won't improve that, those from outside wouldn't have suffered and died with their boots on. Mayo are a special band of brothers, Roscommon and this Galway team, too flaky too soft.
Galway 13 points finished top of the table if you think they are too flaky and soft what you do you make of winless Kildare?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 26, 2018, 04:08:30 PM
Not one Roscommon player would make the Dublin side, struggling also to make a case for any Galway player and apart from Keegan, Colm Boyle and AOS not another Mayo player. Mayo are the epitomy of a team playing well above the team of their parts, they are a band of brothers, adding players from outside won't improve that, those from outside wouldn't have suffered and died with their boots on. Mayo are a special band of brothers, Roscommon and this Galway team, too flaky too soft.
Galway 13 points finished top of the table if you think they are too flaky and soft what you do you make of winless Kildare?

Kildare are shite.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: oliverkelly on March 26, 2018, 04:10:51 PM
Not one Roscommon player would make the Dublin side, struggling also to make a case for any Galway player and apart from Keegan, Colm Boyle and AOS not another Mayo player. Mayo are the epitomy of a team playing well above the team of their parts, they are a band of brothers, adding players from outside won't improve that, those from outside wouldn't have suffered and died with their boots on. Mayo are a special band of brothers, Roscommon and this Galway team, too flaky too soft.
Galway 13 points finished top of the table if you think they are too flaky and soft what you do you make of winless Kildare?

Kildare are shite.

You dont need to be Einstein to know that its fairly clear cut.
AOS wouldnt get near the Dublin team. I would have Comer on the Dublin team
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 26, 2018, 04:15:09 PM
Dublin play a basketball styled offence and defence, they would love AOS.  Comer is just a big unskilled lump.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 26, 2018, 04:22:07 PM
Dublin play a basketball styled offence and defence, they would love AOS.  Comer is just a big unskilled lump.

They don't play it at the speed of a paraplegic with a hangover, though.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 26, 2018, 04:37:19 PM
All due respect to Roscommon but the calls that this game is meaningless are bullshit. Roscommon put in one performance against a serious team last year and had their provincial title. They can do the same this year. It's a cheap title, but sure we'd love a cheap title ourselves. Cavan don't have a chance like that so beating a good Roscommon team on a big day in Croke Park with a cup up for grabs is a big game for us.

If Roscommon were facing into Donegal, Derry, Down and Tyrone to win their provincial title instead of Leitrim and Galway and the consequent positioning in the AI series I don't think they'd be brushing this off as a challenge game either.

Connacht contains three of the top seven teams in Ireland. Derry are D4, Donegal D2 and Down may well be D3 this time next week too. If Cavan can’t beat those types of teams they aren’t going very far no matter what province they’re in, let alone the best one.

D2 league final is completely meaningless. A nice, no stakes day out. The match at the Hyde last week had a lot more on the line for both teams. This one is a challenge game.

Cavan will play their strongest starting 15 for this final the question is what will Roscommon do? if they make a number of changes to their starting team i think we'll all know they aren't taking this final as serious as Cavan will be.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 26, 2018, 04:48:49 PM
Dublin play a basketball styled offence and defence, they would love AOS.  Comer is just a big unskilled lump.
AOS would need to lose about a stone or more of weight to play Dublins high energy game. A bit unfair on Comer he's one of the best fielders of the ball on the Galway team which i think is still classed as one of skills of the game? a lot of game his about is power though and weak defenders struggle to contain him.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on March 26, 2018, 04:49:45 PM
Playing in a division 2 final is a lot like getting the bus.
If you run after it and it pulls away, you feel like a bit of an eejit and everyone laughs at you.
The secret is to stroll up to the bus as if you don't even care if you get on or not.
If you miss it, so what?
I'm specifically using a bus analogy so the Rossies will understand the point I'm trying to make.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 26, 2018, 04:50:45 PM
Playing in a division 2 final is a lot like getting the bus.
If you run after it and it pulls away, you feel like a bit of an eejit and everyone laughs at you.
The secret is to stroll up to the bus as if you don't even care if you get on or not.
If you miss it, so what?
I'm specifically using a bus analogy so the Rossies will understand the point I'm trying to make.

But why would our bus leave without us?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 26, 2018, 05:18:33 PM
All due respect to Roscommon but the calls that this game is meaningless are bullshit. Roscommon put in one performance against a serious team last year and had their provincial title. They can do the same this year. It's a cheap title, but sure we'd love a cheap title ourselves. Cavan don't have a chance like that so beating a good Roscommon team on a big day in Croke Park with a cup up for grabs is a big game for us.

If Roscommon were facing into Donegal, Derry, Down and Tyrone to win their provincial title instead of Leitrim and Galway and the consequent positioning in the AI series I don't think they'd be brushing this off as a challenge game either.

Connacht contains three of the top seven teams in Ireland. Derry are D4, Donegal D2 and Down may well be D3 this time next week too. If Cavan can’t beat those types of teams they aren’t going very far no matter what province they’re in, let alone the best one.

D2 league final is completely meaningless. A nice, no stakes day out. The match at the Hyde last week had a lot more on the line for both teams. This one is a challenge game.

In Connacht you go for a nice weekend away to London or New York or tip over the bridge in Carrick and tickle the bellies of the Leitrim lads and then you go all out for one day and you have your Connacht title. The law of averages gives that draw to Roscommon every few years. If Roscommon were in Ulster over the last decade they wouldn't have a sniff of a provincial title let's be honest.
It's not Roscommon's fault, I'd love to be in Connacht and get those handy runs. But don't think that Connacht title allows you to look down your nose at a Division 2 title when in reality it's barely more difficult to win one than the other (if your draw is as Roscommon got last year and this year) Don't get me wrong Roscommon are a good side but their 'achievements' boil down to beating Galway once for a title.

You're overstating the importance of last Sunday's game for Cavan. We had two games and only needed 2 points. Yesterday was truly winner takes all and they came through.

Going promoted is obviously more important but the cup at the end is important to Cavan who compete in a truly difficult provincial competition.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 26, 2018, 05:22:16 PM
All due respect to Roscommon but the calls that this game is meaningless are bullshit. Roscommon put in one performance against a serious team last year and had their provincial title. They can do the same this year. It's a cheap title, but sure we'd love a cheap title ourselves. Cavan don't have a chance like that so beating a good Roscommon team on a big day in Croke Park with a cup up for grabs is a big game for us.

If Roscommon were facing into Donegal, Derry, Down and Tyrone to win their provincial title instead of Leitrim and Galway and the consequent positioning in the AI series I don't think they'd be brushing this off as a challenge game either.

Connacht contains three of the top seven teams in Ireland. Derry are D4, Donegal D2 and Down may well be D3 this time next week too. If Cavan can’t beat those types of teams they aren’t going very far no matter what province they’re in, let alone the best one.

D2 league final is completely meaningless. A nice, no stakes day out. The match at the Hyde last week had a lot more on the line for both teams. This one is a challenge game.

In Connacht you go for a nice weekend away to London or New York or tip over the bridge in Carrick and tickle the bellies of the Leitrim lads and then you go all out for one day and you have your Connacht title. The law of averages gives that draw to Roscommon every few years. If Roscommon were in Ulster over the last decade they wouldn't have a sniff of a provincial title let's be honest.
It's not Roscommon's fault, I'd love to be in Connacht and get those handy runs. But don't think that Connacht title allows you to look down your nose at a Division 2 title when in reality it's barely more difficult to win one than the other (if your draw is as Roscommon got last year and this year) Don't get me wrong Roscommon are a good side but their 'achievements' boil down to beating Galway once for a title.

You're overstating the importance of last Sunday's game for Cavan. We had two games and only needed 2 points. Yesterday was truly winner takes all and they came through.

Going promoted is obviously more important but the cup at the end is important to Cavan who compete in a truly difficult provincial competition.

You're taking a challenge match way too seriously.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 26, 2018, 05:33:23 PM
All due respect to Roscommon but the calls that this game is meaningless are bullshit. Roscommon put in one performance against a serious team last year and had their provincial title. They can do the same this year. It's a cheap title, but sure we'd love a cheap title ourselves. Cavan don't have a chance like that so beating a good Roscommon team on a big day in Croke Park with a cup up for grabs is a big game for us.

If Roscommon were facing into Donegal, Derry, Down and Tyrone to win their provincial title instead of Leitrim and Galway and the consequent positioning in the AI series I don't think they'd be brushing this off as a challenge game either.

Connacht contains three of the top seven teams in Ireland. Derry are D4, Donegal D2 and Down may well be D3 this time next week too. If Cavan can’t beat those types of teams they aren’t going very far no matter what province they’re in, let alone the best one.

D2 league final is completely meaningless. A nice, no stakes day out. The match at the Hyde last week had a lot more on the line for both teams. This one is a challenge game.

In Connacht you go for a nice weekend away to London or New York or tip over the bridge in Carrick and tickle the bellies of the Leitrim lads and then you go all out for one day and you have your Connacht title. The law of averages gives that draw to Roscommon every few years. If Roscommon were in Ulster over the last decade they wouldn't have a sniff of a provincial title let's be honest.
It's not Roscommon's fault, I'd love to be in Connacht and get those handy runs. But don't think that Connacht title allows you to look down your nose at a Division 2 title when in reality it's barely more difficult to win one than the other (if your draw is as Roscommon got last year and this year) Don't get me wrong Roscommon are a good side but their 'achievements' boil down to beating Galway once for a title.

You're overstating the importance of last Sunday's game for Cavan. We had two games and only needed 2 points. Yesterday was truly winner takes all and they came through.

Going promoted is obviously more important but the cup at the end is important to Cavan who compete in a truly difficult provincial competition.

You're taking a challenge match way too seriously.

Don't be getting stroppy now Syf. A Connacht title is more than Cavan have, poor a prize though it is.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 26, 2018, 05:36:04 PM
All due respect to Roscommon but the calls that this game is meaningless are bullshit. Roscommon put in one performance against a serious team last year and had their provincial title. They can do the same this year. It's a cheap title, but sure we'd love a cheap title ourselves. Cavan don't have a chance like that so beating a good Roscommon team on a big day in Croke Park with a cup up for grabs is a big game for us.

If Roscommon were facing into Donegal, Derry, Down and Tyrone to win their provincial title instead of Leitrim and Galway and the consequent positioning in the AI series I don't think they'd be brushing this off as a challenge game either.

Connacht contains three of the top seven teams in Ireland. Derry are D4, Donegal D2 and Down may well be D3 this time next week too. If Cavan can’t beat those types of teams they aren’t going very far no matter what province they’re in, let alone the best one.

D2 league final is completely meaningless. A nice, no stakes day out. The match at the Hyde last week had a lot more on the line for both teams. This one is a challenge game.

In Connacht you go for a nice weekend away to London or New York or tip over the bridge in Carrick and tickle the bellies of the Leitrim lads and then you go all out for one day and you have your Connacht title. The law of averages gives that draw to Roscommon every few years. If Roscommon were in Ulster over the last decade they wouldn't have a sniff of a provincial title let's be honest.
It's not Roscommon's fault, I'd love to be in Connacht and get those handy runs. But don't think that Connacht title allows you to look down your nose at a Division 2 title when in reality it's barely more difficult to win one than the other (if your draw is as Roscommon got last year and this year) Don't get me wrong Roscommon are a good side but their 'achievements' boil down to beating Galway once for a title.

You're overstating the importance of last Sunday's game for Cavan. We had two games and only needed 2 points. Yesterday was truly winner takes all and they came through.

Going promoted is obviously more important but the cup at the end is important to Cavan who compete in a truly difficult provincial competition.

You're taking a challenge match way too seriously.

Don't be getting stroppy now Syf. A Connacht title is more than Cavan have, poor a prize though it is.

I know you want an emotional response, but this is like a first year trying to square up to a leaving cert student. These sorts of matches don't matter to us. Cavan have a long way to come if D2 finals get them excited.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on March 26, 2018, 05:42:27 PM
All due respect to Roscommon but the calls that this game is meaningless are bullshit. Roscommon put in one performance against a serious team last year and had their provincial title. They can do the same this year. It's a cheap title, but sure we'd love a cheap title ourselves. Cavan don't have a chance like that so beating a good Roscommon team on a big day in Croke Park with a cup up for grabs is a big game for us.

If Roscommon were facing into Donegal, Derry, Down and Tyrone to win their provincial title instead of Leitrim and Galway and the consequent positioning in the AI series I don't think they'd be brushing this off as a challenge game either.

Connacht contains three of the top seven teams in Ireland. Derry are D4, Donegal D2 and Down may well be D3 this time next week too. If Cavan can’t beat those types of teams they aren’t going very far no matter what province they’re in, let alone the best one.

D2 league final is completely meaningless. A nice, no stakes day out. The match at the Hyde last week had a lot more on the line for both teams. This one is a challenge game.

In Connacht you go for a nice weekend away to London or New York or tip over the bridge in Carrick and tickle the bellies of the Leitrim lads and then you go all out for one day and you have your Connacht title. The law of averages gives that draw to Roscommon every few years. If Roscommon were in Ulster over the last decade they wouldn't have a sniff of a provincial title let's be honest.
It's not Roscommon's fault, I'd love to be in Connacht and get those handy runs. But don't think that Connacht title allows you to look down your nose at a Division 2 title when in reality it's barely more difficult to win one than the other (if your draw is as Roscommon got last year and this year) Don't get me wrong Roscommon are a good side but their 'achievements' boil down to beating Galway once for a title.

You're overstating the importance of last Sunday's game for Cavan. We had two games and only needed 2 points. Yesterday was truly winner takes all and they came through.

Going promoted is obviously more important but the cup at the end is important to Cavan who compete in a truly difficult provincial competition.

You're taking a challenge match way too seriously.

Don't be getting stroppy now Syf. A Connacht title is more than Cavan have, poor a prize though it is.

I know you want an emotional response, but this is like a first year trying to square up to a leaving cert student. Cavan have a long way to come if D2 finals get them excited.

I don't know what's funnier, that your mind jumped straight to a school analogy or that you consider either yourself or Roscommon a leaving cert student in the same analogy.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: AZOffaly on March 26, 2018, 05:44:31 PM
When I was a first year I flushed a leaving cert student's head down the jacks.




She still won't talk to me :)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 26, 2018, 06:03:55 PM
If Roscommon had been in Ulster Cavan wouldn't have won 47 unopposed Ulster Titles.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 26, 2018, 06:15:33 PM
If Roscommon had been in Ulster Cavan wouldn't have won 47 unopposed Ulster Titles.

Seeing as most of Cavan's Ulsters came when Ros were entering junior All Irelands one may beg to differ.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 26, 2018, 06:20:57 PM
If Roscommon had been in Ulster Cavan wouldn't have won 47 unopposed Ulster Titles.

Seeing as most of Cavan's Ulsters came when Ros were entering junior All Irelands one may beg to differ.

What? Roscommon only dropped down to junior for a few years, indeed they went from Junior to Senior AI champions between 1940 and 1943.

How many Ulsters did Cavan win in those years, Farr? ???
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 26, 2018, 06:24:24 PM
If Roscommon had been in Ulster Cavan wouldn't have won 47 unopposed Ulster Titles.

Seeing as most of Cavan's Ulsters came when Ros were entering junior All Irelands one may beg to differ.

What? Roscommon only dropped down to junior for a few years, indeed they went from Junior to Senior AI champions between 1940 and 1943.

How many Ulsters did Cavan win in those years, Farr? ???

Fair enough. For some reason I thought Ros were in the junior series for most of the 20s and 30s.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 26, 2018, 06:28:43 PM
If Roscommon had been in Ulster Cavan wouldn't have won 47 unopposed Ulster Titles.

Seeing as most of Cavan's Ulsters came when Ros were entering junior All Irelands one may beg to differ.

What? Roscommon only dropped down to junior for a few years, indeed they went from Junior to Senior AI champions between 1940 and 1943.

How many Ulsters did Cavan win in those years, Farr? ???

Fair enough. For some reason I thought Ros were in the junior series for most of the 20s and 30s.

Did a quick check on Connacht finals and we contested the 1931 decider, at the bare minimum. I remember hearing Jimmy Murray being interviewed once and talking about the decision to drop to Junior being a contemporary decision made while he was playing or coming up so it wouldn't have been a long-lived thing. We hadn't won Connacht since 1914, which is what you may have been thinking of.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 26, 2018, 06:33:19 PM
If Roscommon had been in Ulster Cavan wouldn't have won 47 unopposed Ulster Titles.

Seeing as most of Cavan's Ulsters came when Ros were entering junior All Irelands one may beg to differ.

What? Roscommon only dropped down to junior for a few years, indeed they went from Junior to Senior AI champions between 1940 and 1943.

How many Ulsters did Cavan win in those years, Farr? ???

Fair enough. For some reason I thought Ros were in the junior series for most of the 20s and 30s.

Did a quick check on Connacht finals and we contested the 1931 decider, at the bare minimum. I remember hearing Jimmy Murray being interviewed once and talking about the decision to drop to Junior being a contemporary decision made while he was playing or coming up so it wouldn't have been a long-lived thing. We hadn't won Connacht since 1914, which is what you may have been thinking of.

Probably. I could only imagine the scenes in 43 when not only Connacht but an All Ireland was won after all those years!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on March 26, 2018, 07:05:01 PM
Surely Down at 1/2 has to be in every single bet thats done this weekend? If tipp send out anything other than lads who havent been getting games ill be amazed and disappointed
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on March 26, 2018, 07:16:16 PM
All due respect to Roscommon but the calls that this game is meaningless are bullshit. Roscommon put in one performance against a serious team last year and had their provincial title. They can do the same this year. It's a cheap title, but sure we'd love a cheap title ourselves. Cavan don't have a chance like that so beating a good Roscommon team on a big day in Croke Park with a cup up for grabs is a big game for us.

If Roscommon were facing into Donegal, Derry, Down and Tyrone to win their provincial title instead of Leitrim and Galway and the consequent positioning in the AI series I don't think they'd be brushing this off as a challenge game either.

Connacht contains three of the top seven teams in Ireland. Derry are D4, Donegal D2 and Down may well be D3 this time next week too. If Cavan can’t beat those types of teams they aren’t going very far no matter what province they’re in, let alone the best one.

D2 league final is completely meaningless. A nice, no stakes day out. The match at the Hyde last week had a lot more on the line for both teams. This one is a challenge game.

In Connacht you go for a nice weekend away to London or New York or tip over the bridge in Carrick and tickle the bellies of the Leitrim lads and then you go all out for one day and you have your Connacht title. The law of averages gives that draw to Roscommon every few years. If Roscommon were in Ulster over the last decade they wouldn't have a sniff of a provincial title let's be honest.
It's not Roscommon's fault, I'd love to be in Connacht and get those handy runs. But don't think that Connacht title allows you to look down your nose at a Division 2 title when in reality it's barely more difficult to win one than the other (if your draw is as Roscommon got last year and this year) Don't get me wrong Roscommon are a good side but their 'achievements' boil down to beating Galway once for a title.

You're overstating the importance of last Sunday's game for Cavan. We had two games and only needed 2 points. Yesterday was truly winner takes all and they came through.

Going promoted is obviously more important but the cup at the end is important to Cavan who compete in a truly difficult provincial competition.

You're taking a challenge match way too seriously.

Don't be getting stroppy now Syf. A Connacht title is more than Cavan have, poor a prize though it is.

I know you want an emotional response, but this is like a first year trying to square up to a leaving cert student. These sorts of matches don't matter to us. Cavan have a long way to come if D2 finals get them excited.
Ros are emotionally incontinent

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 26, 2018, 07:21:56 PM
Surely Down at 1/2 has to be in every single bet thats done this weekend? If tipp send out anything other than lads who havent been getting games ill be amazed and disappointed

We had nothing to play for last year and Cavan were fighting for survival and we still beat them. Wouldn’t be so sure of a Down victory just because they need it.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 26, 2018, 07:29:50 PM
Surely Down at 1/2 has to be in every single bet thats done this weekend? If tipp send out anything other than lads who havent been getting games ill be amazed and disappointed

We had nothing to play for last year and Cavan were fighting for survival and we still beat them. Wouldn’t be so sure of a Down victory just because they need it.

Neither would I.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 26, 2018, 07:42:16 PM
Surely Down at 1/2 has to be in every single bet thats done this weekend? If tipp send out anything other than lads who havent been getting games ill be amazed and disappointed

We had nothing to play for last year and Cavan were fighting for survival and we still beat them. Wouldn’t be so sure of a Down victory just because they need it.

That's because ye are amazing.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 26, 2018, 07:48:51 PM
Surely Down at 1/2 has to be in every single bet thats done this weekend? If tipp send out anything other than lads who havent been getting games ill be amazed and disappointed

We had nothing to play for last year and Cavan were fighting for survival and we still beat them. Wouldn’t be so sure of a Down victory just because they need it.

That's because ye are amazing.

Well, we did win the toughest provincial championship..

Are you glad you get to play us at least two times in the next 12 months now?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 26, 2018, 07:57:37 PM
Surely Down at 1/2 has to be in every single bet thats done this weekend? If tipp send out anything other than lads who havent been getting games ill be amazed and disappointed

We had nothing to play for last year and Cavan were fighting for survival and we still beat them. Wouldn’t be so sure of a Down victory just because they need it.

That's because ye are amazing.

Well, we did win the toughest provincial championship..

Are you glad you get to play us at least two times in the next 12 months now?

The only problem I have with playing Ros is having to read your endless posts of shite.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 26, 2018, 08:11:08 PM
Surely Down at 1/2 has to be in every single bet thats done this weekend? If tipp send out anything other than lads who havent been getting games ill be amazed and disappointed

We had nothing to play for last year and Cavan were fighting for survival and we still beat them. Wouldn’t be so sure of a Down victory just because they need it.

That's because ye are amazing.

Well, we did win the toughest provincial championship..

Are you glad you get to play us at least two times in the next 12 months now?

The only problem I have with playing Ros is having to read your endless posts of shite.

You don’t mind the losing part?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 26, 2018, 08:14:02 PM
Surely Down at 1/2 has to be in every single bet thats done this weekend? If tipp send out anything other than lads who havent been getting games ill be amazed and disappointed

We had nothing to play for last year and Cavan were fighting for survival and we still beat them. Wouldn’t be so sure of a Down victory just because they need it.

That's because ye are amazing.

Well, we did win the toughest provincial championship..

Are you glad you get to play us at least two times in the next 12 months now?

The only problem I have with playing Ros is having to read your endless posts of shite.

You don’t mind the losing part?

Losing is part if sport. Having to listen to you is not. You are an embarrassment to your fellow Roscommon posters. Your like Tony Fearon of the South.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 26, 2018, 08:42:40 PM
Surely Down at 1/2 has to be in every single bet thats done this weekend? If tipp send out anything other than lads who havent been getting games ill be amazed and disappointed

We had nothing to play for last year and Cavan were fighting for survival and we still beat them. Wouldn’t be so sure of a Down victory just because they need it.

That's because ye are amazing.

Well, we did win the toughest provincial championship..

Are you glad you get to play us at least two times in the next 12 months now?

The only problem I have with playing Ros is having to read your endless posts of shite.

You don’t mind the losing part?

Losing is part if sport. Having to listen to you is not. You are an embarrassment to your fellow Roscommon posters. Your like Tony Fearon of the South.

I’m glad you don’t mind the losing, because I’d be getting worried for you at this stage if you did.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 26, 2018, 09:13:41 PM
Surely Down at 1/2 has to be in every single bet thats done this weekend? If tipp send out anything other than lads who havent been getting games ill be amazed and disappointed

We had nothing to play for last year and Cavan were fighting for survival and we still beat them. Wouldn’t be so sure of a Down victory just because they need it.

That's because ye are amazing.

Well, we did win the toughest provincial championship..

Are you glad you get to play us at least two times in the next 12 months now?

The only problem I have with playing Ros is having to read your endless posts of shite.
😊😀
You're lucky. Ros folk have to read his non stop drivel on stolen-sheep as well.  About 40 ridiculous posts per day.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 27, 2018, 01:01:53 AM
Are you glad you get to play us at least two times in the next 12 months now?

I am. It's getting a bit incestuous by now but it'll be nice when we finally address the ridiculous situation of a merely above-average team like ourselves always having the whip hand over us, and when it happens it will no doubt result in a radical reappraisal of Roscommon from Syferus given that they'll have lost to Cavan, a mere footballing backwater in a handy province.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 01:26:27 AM
Are you glad you get to play us at least two times in the next 12 months now?

I am. It's getting a bit incestuous by now but it'll be nice when we finally address the ridiculous situation of a merely above-average team like ourselves always having the whip hand over us, and when it happens it will no doubt result in a radical reappraisal of Roscommon from Syferus given that they'll have lost to Cavan, a mere footballing backwater in a handy province.

Not if it happens on Sunday. But it would be worth seeing how ye'd react to losing again all the same. Cavan's AI.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 27, 2018, 02:06:58 AM
If we lose it'll be dispiriting, I'm not so interested in "winning the internet" in squabbles with strangers every day that I can't admit that, but that's more because it's part of a perplexing trend of defeats for which there is no real talent differential between the sides that accounts for it. Not because I lie awake at nights tormented by thoughts of Roscommon.

If we win, and make no bones about it, we'll want to win it, it'll be greeted equally pragmatically for what it is. A nice hoodoo-ending win against a team that are our equals or not so far ahead as results - or the breathless rhetoric of some - would have a casual observer believe.

It'll serve up some good talking points either way and it's good to see you are now very invested in this meaningless game Syf, it's good to have you on board.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 02:23:26 AM
If we lose it'll be dispiriting, I'm not so interested in "winning the internet" in squabbles with strangers every day that I can't admit that, but that's more because it's part of a perplexing trend of defeats for which there is no real talent differential between the sides that accounts for it. Not because I lie awake at nights tormented by thoughts of Roscommon.

If we win, and make no bones about it, we'll want to win it, it'll be greeted equally pragmatically for what it is. A nice hoodoo-ending win against a team that are our equals or not so far ahead as results - or the breathless rhetoric of some - would have a casual observer believe.

It'll serve up some good talking points either way and it's good to see you are now very invested in this meaningless game Syf, it's good to have you on board.

Mightn't even bother going. Train's out between Kildare and Heuston. Roscommon teams' second trip to Croke Park this year already so it's wearing a bit thin going up for every little game.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: cavanmaniac on March 27, 2018, 04:46:28 AM
 ;D
Sure if it was in your back garden, you'd pull the curtains and simply return to your main passion instead - the ritualistic, daily sacrificing of your self-respect here on the internet. And each to their own!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on March 27, 2018, 07:28:00 AM
It would be gas if Cavan won
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 27, 2018, 08:23:53 AM
It would be gas if Cavan won

Sure it's only a meaningless little game aka a friendly according to Syf.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Tatler Jack on March 27, 2018, 09:06:07 AM
It would be gas if Cavan won

Sure it's only a meaningless little game aka a friendly according to Syf.

You need to understand how things work in Syferustan.  If Ros win it marks further domination and confirms Ros hegemony over Cavan plus puts them in the top 3 in the country. Lose and it was a meaningless friendly that only Cavan took seriously.

Inhabitants of Syferustan never lose!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on March 27, 2018, 09:52:20 AM
Time to stop engaging with that eejit. No issue with any of other Ros posters.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Unlaoised on March 27, 2018, 09:54:49 AM
Cavan are due a win this could be a very entertaining game.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 27, 2018, 11:17:29 AM
I'm expecting a wide open game of free flowing pure football from 2 of  football's aristocratic heritage Counties.
The spirits of Jimmy Murray, Gerry O'Malley,  Dermot, John Joe Reilly,  Gunner Brady, Peter Donohoe and all the other famous warriors of bygone days will inspire and guide these young lads who follow in their glorious footsteps.


Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 11:23:04 AM
I'm expecting a wide open game of free flowing pure football from 2 of  football's aristocratic heritage Counties.
The spirits of Jimmy Murray, Gerry O'Malley,  Dermot, John Joe Reilly,  Gunner Brady, Peter Donohoe and all the other famous warriors of bygone days will inspire and guide these young lads who follow in their glorious footsteps.

Did you watch Cavan at all last week? Their idea of open football is having 15 men in their half of the field.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 27, 2018, 11:32:45 AM
How did they manage to score 13 points then you silly little maneen ?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 11:36:46 AM
How did they manage to score 13 points then you silly little maneen ?

I guess you haven't been too many Roscommon matches if you don't know how a team could score 13 points on us :-X
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 27, 2018, 11:56:42 AM
Did Cavan score them all from their own half?
Go back to your colouring books and don't come back till you ask your grand dad about our and Cavan's glorious heritage.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 12:02:09 PM
Did Cavan score them all from their own half?
Go back to your colouring books and don't come back till you ask your grand dad about our and Cavan's glorious heritage.

What's the point of posting totally bad faith nonsense like this, knowing full well that wasn't the context you were commenting on when a fifteen men defense was mentioned? Derailing a thread to stroke your own fragile ego? Also my 'grand dad' has been dead for 20 years, so thanks for that.

Your schtick is pretty stale.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 27, 2018, 12:58:44 PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 27, 2018, 01:05:26 PM
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Figure you wouldn’t apologise.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 27, 2018, 01:06:33 PM
 :P
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on March 27, 2018, 01:26:01 PM
The Division 2 thread used to be a place of robust debate, mutual respect & manliness.
I'm actually looking forward to the Kildare lads coming back.
Assuming we're still here.
If not, I hope the Division 3 thread is a place of robust debate, mutual respect & manliness.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Beffs on March 27, 2018, 08:35:23 PM
Div 2 is going to be an absolute hoor to get out of next year, that's for sure.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: weareros on March 27, 2018, 09:59:23 PM
The Division 2 thread used to be a place of robust debate, mutual respect & manliness.
I'm actually looking forward to the Kildare lads coming back.
Assuming we're still here.
If not, I hope the Division 3 thread is a place of robust debate, mutual respect & manliness.

In fairness you meet the worst in Div 2. Cocky b**tards on the way up, grumpy b**tards stuck in a a rut going neither up nor down, and bitter b**tards cursing out at the night as they are sucked into a vortex of pure muck in the bowels of bad football hell, perhaps never ever to return.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on March 27, 2018, 10:27:50 PM
Div 2 is going to be an absolute hoor to get out of next year, that's for sure.
Kildare won't be going up.Cork , Meath/Down, Clare Armagh and Fermanagh will probably be inconsistent.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Avondhu star on March 28, 2018, 07:37:59 AM
Div 2 is going to be an absolute hoor to get out of next year, that's for sure.
Louth found it easy enough this year and Down or Meath are giving it a good shot
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: FermGael on March 28, 2018, 09:25:19 AM
The Division 2 thread used to be a place of robust debate, mutual respect & manliness.
I'm actually looking forward to the Kildare lads coming back.
Assuming we're still here.
If not, I hope the Division 3 thread is a place of robust debate, mutual respect & manliness.

Drop down to the div 3 thread.
Was great craic all together
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Aristo 60 on March 28, 2018, 11:47:00 AM
Div 2 is going to be an absolute hoor to get out of next year, that's for sure.
Louth found it easy enough this year and Down or Meath are giving it a good shot

 ;D
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Beffs on March 28, 2018, 11:17:56 PM
Div 2 is going to be an absolute hoor to get out of next year, that's for sure.
Louth found it easy enough this year and Down or Meath are giving it a good shot

Badum tish !

I'll get yer coat. ;D
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: APM on March 28, 2018, 11:53:31 PM
Howdy!! Thinking of taking up residence here next year.  I hear there's a big clear out and half the locals are gonna blow town!!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on March 29, 2018, 06:21:19 AM
https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/978925414629433345

Dermot Earley in full flow
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 29, 2018, 11:57:01 PM
Roscommon team to play Cavan in Sundays Div  2 Final.

James Fetherstone (Roscommon Gaels)
David Murray (Padraig Pearses)
Peter Domican (St Brigids)
Fergal Lennon (Clann na nGael)
Conor Daly (Padraig Pearses)
Ultan Harney (Clann na nGael)
Brian Stack (St Brigids)
Tadhg O Rourke (Tulsk)
Cathal Compton (Strokestown)
Ciarain Murtagh (St Faithleachs)
Niall Kilroy (Fuerty)
Conor Devaney (Kilbride)
Donie Smith (Boyle)
Ciaran Lennon (Clann na nGael)
Diarmuid Murtagh (St Faithleachs)

A goalkeeper change while the likes of Enda Smith,Niall Daly subs again.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 30, 2018, 12:17:03 AM
Roscommon team to play Cavan in Sundays Div  2 Final.

James Fetherstone (Roscommon Gaels)
David Murray (Padraig Pearses)
Peter Domican (St Brigids)
Fergal Lennon (Clann na nGael)
Conor Daly (Padraig Pearses)
Ultan Harney (Clann na nGael)
Brian Stack (St Brigids)
Tadhg O Rourke (Tulsk)
Cathal Compton (Strokestown)
Ciarain Murtagh (St Faithleachs)
Niall Kilroy (Fuerty)
Conor Devaney (Kilbride)
Donie Smith (Boyle)
Ciaran Lennon (Clann na nGael)
Diarmuid Murtagh (St Faithleachs)

A goalkeeper change while the likes of Enda Smith,Niall Daly subs again.

Great panel.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: manfromdelmonte on March 30, 2018, 12:22:19 AM
only two Brigids players on the starting 15??, considering they have won 7 out of the last 8 in Roscommon
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 30, 2018, 12:33:26 AM
only two Brigids players on the starting 15??, considering they have won 7 out of the last 8 in Roscommon

It’s a team effort lad.

Niall Mc will probably be starting when his exams are done.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 30, 2018, 08:12:55 AM
I must commend Roscommon for naming their team early, not only for this weekend but throughout the league campaign. While I don't know if they change on the day, the fact there are names with numbers on a Thursday night can give the fans something to talk about. Unlike us, who name the team on a Saturday evening, then proceed to have a few changes on the day.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: oliverkelly on March 30, 2018, 08:29:22 AM
I must commend Roscommon for naming their team early, not only for this weekend but throughout the league campaign. While I don't know if they change on the day, the fact there are names with numbers on a Thursday night can give the fans something to talk about. Unlike us, who name the team on a Saturday evening, then proceed to have a few changes on the day.

Its a breath of fresh air alright. No we dont change team unless a last minute injury the team named will start.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on March 30, 2018, 09:17:34 AM
I must commend Roscommon for naming their team early, not only for this weekend but throughout the league campaign. While I don't know if they change on the day, the fact there are names with numbers on a Thursday night can give the fans something to talk about. Unlike us, who name the team on a Saturday evening, then proceed to have a few changes on the day.

Think McStay is saying here's my team now deal with it. If I remember correctly he named his 15 extremely early for Mayo replay last year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 30, 2018, 09:28:15 AM
I must commend Roscommon for naming their team early, not only for this weekend but throughout the league campaign. While I don't know if they change on the day, the fact there are names with numbers on a Thursday night can give the fans something to talk about. Unlike us, who name the team on a Saturday evening, then proceed to have a few changes on the day.

Think McStay is saying here's my team now deal with it. If I remember correctly he named his 15 extremely early for Mayo replay last year.

He did and then made a few chances before throw in which included one of strangest ever changes for All Ireland Quarter final, Caoileann Fitzmaurice was given a start who apparently had never played a game for Roscommon seniors before.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 30, 2018, 09:56:18 AM
He hadn't and only started training with them a few weeks beforehand.
Totally mad as was leaving out Fintan and Ciaráin Murtagh.
Hope he learned from it.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on March 30, 2018, 02:05:12 PM
Full Panel v Roscommon

1. Raymond Galligan (Lacken)
2. Jason McLoughlin (Shannon Gaels)
3. Padraig Faulkner (Kingscourt)
4. Enda Flanagan (Castlerahan)
5. Martin Reilly (Killygarry)
6. Ciaran Brady (Arvagh)
7. Oisin Kiernan (Castlerahan)
8. Gearoid McKiernan (Swanlinbar)
9. Killian Clarke (Shercock)
10. Dara McVeety (Crosserlough)
11. Bryan Magee (Cuchulainns)
12. Cian Mackey (Castlerahan)
13. Caoimhin O’Reilly (Butlersbridge)
14. Adrian Cole (Ramor United)
15. Conor Bradley (Ramor United)

16. James Farrelly (Kingscourt)
17. Conor Moynagh (Drumgoon)
18. Niall Murray (Cavan Gaels)
19. Stephen Murray (Cavan Gaels)
20. Conor Madden (Gowna)
21. Conor Brady (Gowna)
22. Niall Clerkin (Shercock)
23. Sean Johnston (Cavan Gaels)
24. Darragh Kennedy (Killygarry)
25. Fergal Reilly (Castlerahan)
26. Padraig Moore (Ballyhaise)
27. Jack Wharton (Cornafean)
28. David Brady (Ballyhaise)
29. Ryan Connolly (Drumlane)
30. Killian Brady (Mullahoran)

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: weareros on March 30, 2018, 02:17:17 PM
He hadn't and only started training with them a few weeks beforehand.
Totally mad as was leaving out Fintan and Ciaráin Murtagh.
Hope he learned from it.

Funny enough what he is doing now is what he was trying to do then - bring on some sharpshooters to win the game in last 15 mins. Problem the game was well over after 15 mins. He did not have strength of panel then, it was threadbare after 1st 15, but the return of Dalys, Domican, and Cathal to panel, emergence of Lennons, and Harney to near fitness has changed that. Would like to see Andy Glennon on that panel too but appears unlikely to happen this year. But we have a stronger 26 this year.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on March 30, 2018, 02:56:39 PM
We certainly have. Look at  16-26 for Sunday!!
Keeping your sharpshooters/match winners in reserve is grand in Division 2 NFL but when you reach the cutting edge of Championship it's a different story.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on March 30, 2018, 04:03:30 PM
He hadn't and only started training with them a few weeks beforehand.
Totally mad as was leaving out Fintan and Ciaráin Murtagh.
Hope he learned from it.

Ciarain at least had a knock that day.

Given the performance we produced, he was clearly worried about us not having the gas in the tank for another round with the 800lb gorilla the next week so he took some chances. He has a much better panel now and I’d expect your favourite manager to have us better prepared for championship games in successive weeks, which we will face if we either win the Connacht final or a R4 Qualifier.

Nine times out of ten McStay just names his team and it does not change unless there’s an injury. The right and more confident way of doing it.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 31, 2018, 03:44:04 PM
Half times

Down 1-7 Tipperary 0-6
Louth 0-4 Meath 0-3

The relegation situation as it stands.

5th    Cork    GD+3    PTS 6
6th    Down    GD−5    PTS 6
7th   Meath    GD+5    PTS 5
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Blowitupref on March 31, 2018, 04:40:27 PM
Full time

Down 2-11 Tipperary 1-11
Louth 0-7 Meath 1-12

Down relegated.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on April 01, 2018, 09:04:18 AM
Good luck to the Cavan lads on their big day.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on April 01, 2018, 12:41:44 PM



Best of luck to Syferus (left) and Rossfan (right) today.
Enjoy the game and the freely available potable water!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: hardstation on April 01, 2018, 02:09:54 PM
That Ros back line is very poor.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on April 01, 2018, 02:13:39 PM
Cian Mackey covers some amount of ground for a lad who wouldn't look out of place playing Junior B football.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 01, 2018, 02:18:20 PM



Best of luck to Syferus (left) and Rossfan (right) today.
Enjoy the game and the freely available potable water!
Syf is the boy whose head you can just about see.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Tubberman on April 01, 2018, 02:24:18 PM
Great score from the Rossies - they're piss poor at the back but have lovely forwards (as long as they're given the space).
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on April 01, 2018, 02:27:16 PM
cavan have been awful after a very good start
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: hardstation on April 01, 2018, 02:27:51 PM
How many goals will Cavan score? That’s ridiculous from Ros.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on April 01, 2018, 02:28:02 PM
Cavan are firm believers in the old adage, 'Take your goals and the points will come.'
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: seafoid on April 01, 2018, 02:41:47 PM
Very interesting data for the Connacht championship
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Zulu on April 01, 2018, 02:43:20 PM
Think lads are being a bit harsh on the Ros backline, Ultan Harney has been excellent for one. They've excellent forwards too and are beginning to pick holes in Cavan's massed defence even though they are playing too narrow which is making it easier for Cavan. Apparently there's a strong wind so still up for grabs but Ros look like a good team. All three of the Cavan goals were brilliantly taken to be fair.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on April 01, 2018, 02:45:14 PM
Think lads are being a bit harsh on the Ros backline, Ultan Harney has been excellent for one. They've excellent forwards too and are beginning to pick holes in Cavan's massed defence even though they are playing too narrow which is making it easier for Cavan. Apparently there's a strong wind so still up for grabs but Ros look like a good team. All three of the Cavan goals were brilliantly taken to be fair.

Only 1 point in it and Cavan have massive scope for improvement. It will take some going for roscommon to keep up this scoring rate
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: joemamas on April 01, 2018, 02:47:26 PM
Roscommon are very easy to watch. Their forwards are extremely comfortable on the ball.
Tuned in when it was 2-1 to 0-5 , they have absolutely dominated in the interim.
Hope my neighbors win, would not mind watching them in the summer.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on April 01, 2018, 02:49:43 PM
Roscommon are very easy to watch. Their forwards are extremely comfortable on the ball.
Tuned in when it was 2-1 to 0-5 , they have absolutely dominated in the interim.
Hope my neighbors win, would not mind watching them in the summer.

I'd love to play them on a good day in the championship with both teams at full pitch, would make for a brilliant game given how both teams play
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on April 01, 2018, 02:50:39 PM
Defensive Cavan is defensive. We dispensed with the need for any of that tackling and marking nonsense as part of the five year plan.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: longballin on April 01, 2018, 03:09:09 PM
Standard of football from Div 2, 3 and 4 last two days has been woeful but still peeps wail against tiering the championship
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tonto1888 on April 01, 2018, 03:09:50 PM
Good game this
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Lar Naparka on April 01, 2018, 03:11:48 PM
Defensive Cavan is defensive. We dispensed with the need for any of that tackling and marking nonsense as part of the five year plan.
Ye did but there's room for imnprovement in that side still. Over elaboration in front of goal has lost ye a few scores. Still, Ros the better side and should win with a couple to spare.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: longballin on April 01, 2018, 03:24:16 PM
Good game this

is exciting helped by woeful defending!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: The Trap on April 01, 2018, 03:24:22 PM
How many injuries did mcvety need before they took him off ffs
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Schkite on April 01, 2018, 03:24:52 PM
Enjoyable game to watch this, but Christ the defences have been woeful
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on April 01, 2018, 03:25:03 PM
Give it to Seanie.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Farrandeelin on April 01, 2018, 03:40:47 PM
Entertaining game for one so meaningless.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Kurtz on April 01, 2018, 03:42:18 PM
Very entertaining
It was like watching a Hogan Cup match
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: cavanmaniac on April 01, 2018, 03:47:54 PM
Crazy game altogether. Not much between them as usual except Ros looked a bit more composed and clinical at key times. A few standout key moments were a nonsense free against mc veety which lead to a roscommon goal, which to compound matters looked to have been thrown to the net, another charmed goal escape for Ros when the issue was very much alive and Cavan coming strong followed by a Ros goal, and then the management leaving McVeety on when injured which lead directly to a Roscommon score. Galligan fluffing his 45s too, he's clearly not reliable enough.  I wonder was there a cavan foot block went unpunished in the square in the second half too though.

No complaints about the result anyway, Roscommon slightly the better and deserving and well done to them, but from the shambles we were lead to expect in January Cavan have come a long way. Lots of fight in us. Either side look way too generous at the minute to trouble anyone majorly in the summer but August football is a legitimate target for both at least.

On we go.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: From the Bunker on April 01, 2018, 03:54:40 PM
Entertaining game for one so meaningless.

That's the thing with senior inter-county. All these competitions seem to be becoming more and more meaningless! Reminds me of the way  the League Cup, FA Cup and Uefa Cup have gone in Soccer because of the Champions League. If they are meaningless should we just dump them? We've enough fixture problems with Clubs as it is?
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Syferus on April 01, 2018, 03:56:31 PM
Haters gonna hate.

Commiserations to the Cavan lads. We tried our best to give you a bit of silverware.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Jinxy on April 01, 2018, 04:56:13 PM
You'd want to lock that FB line in a cage and feed them nothing but raw mate till the championship starts.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on April 01, 2018, 07:46:57 PM
Rossies deserved the win. Lovely forward play that was miles ahead of most of what we could produce.

Good fight from our lads despite being out gunned. Galligan's kickouts were good. I thought Johnston again brought a lot to the table when he came on although he didn't cover himself in glory for the Roscommon goal.

A lot of lads there are in their first year at this level and it told. Bradley is a good footballer but was outmuscled at least 4 times and overturned. Caoimhin Reilly equally looked a bit out of his depth after a great start to the league.

The McVeety situation was maddening and absolute amateur hour from Mattie. He was very obviously unable to continue for several minutes and nobody was warmed up, he was left to try go for a ball and worsen his injury. Brutal treatment of our best player and if this causes his absence from the Donegal game management will have serious questions to answer.

Fair play to Roscommon, they'll trouble all but the very best come the summer.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Rossfan on April 01, 2018, 09:49:37 PM
I'm expecting a wide open game of free flowing pure football from 2 of  football's aristocratic heritage Counties.

Wasn't far out ;D
Mad game altogether.
Score 4-16 and you'd expect to win by 10 or 12 points but to be fretting in injury time was unreal.
Then again last time we were in Croker we conceded 4 -19 so maybe we're improving!
Anyway that's 3 Finals won in 9 months, other Connacht Counties please copy.
Promotion and a National title. Mission accomplished.
The hard part begins now....

Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: snoopdog on April 01, 2018, 11:35:53 PM
Fantastic game of football. Really enjoyable. Good luck to both in div 1. Maybe tighten up the defences a bit though for bext year.  :)
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on April 02, 2018, 10:44:11 AM
Exciting game alright. Disappointed by the result but have to temper that with the fact that at the start of the year I'd have ripped your hand off if you'd offered me promotion but losing the league final. We were after all something like 4-1 to beat Clare in Ennis in the 1st round so its quite a turnaround for us. We at least have a team of lads who will fight for the jersey.

Now on the game I do think it was there for Cavan for the winning with 10 mins to go. We had fought back level after being 6 points down. We were winning every kickout and it just needed some calm heads to see it out. But instead we hit self destuct. Conor Madden missed 1-3 - all very scorable. Galligan missed 2 45s, one which he should be scoring. We had poor shots drop short and bad wides. They werent difficult chances either, just really bad misses.

We then had the debacle with McVitty clearly pulling a hamstring and management left him on, a ball into him resulted in a goal and probably a hamstring in shite which threatens our best player and captains appearance vrs Donegal.

Another balls up by management i thought was putting Johnson on at ctr forward at half. Roscommon did exactly the right thing when he went in there, his man drove up the field at every opportunity and forced Johnson to be operating in the full back line. A goal came off that too.

So I've given Mattie plenty of praise for astute changes this year but I think he got those two changes badly wrong yesterday. But still with 10 mins to go it was there for us to win.

On players I thought for us McVitty was outstanding, on his own in the forwards really. Where Ros has 4/5 guys that will score with any sight of the posts we were totally reliant on Dara and he delivered. What horrible luck his injury is. I though Clarke did Trojan work (again on his own in the middle) and Mackey was also excellent. The rest fought hard as they could. One player that really is disappointing me is Gearoid McKiernan. He now needs to be dropped. Simply he is hiding in these games, wants others to do the dirty work for him so he can kick easy points. He couldn't even do that yesterday. Clarke spent the day running after 2 men in midfield. I dont know where Buchanan, Thomas Galligan or David Brady are gone but for me McKiernan needs a serious kick up the hole and a place on the bench against Donegal would be a good start.

Congrats to Roscommon, a very good team that should be well able to stay in Div 1.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on April 02, 2018, 10:52:55 AM
Exciting game alright. Disappointed by the result but have to temper that with the fact that at the start of the year I'd have ripped your hand off if you'd offered me promotion but losing the league final. We were after all something like 4-1 to beat Clare in Ennis in the 1st round so its quite a turnaround for us. We at least have a team of lads who will fight for the jersey.

Now on the game I do think it was there for Cavan for the winning with 10 mins to go. We had fought back level after being 6 points down. We were winning every kickout and it just needed some calm heads to see it out. But instead we hit self destuct. Conor Madden missed 1-3 - all very scorable. Galligan missed 2 45s, one which he should be scoring. We had poor shots drop short and bad wides. They werent difficult chances either, just really bad misses.

We then had the debacle with McVitty clearly pulling a hamstring and management left him on, a ball into him resulted in a goal and probably a hamstring in shite which threatens our best player and captains appearance vrs Donegal.

Another balls up by management i thought was putting Johnson on at ctr forward at half. Roscommon did exactly the right thing when he went in there, his man drove up the field at every opportunity and forced Johnson to be operating in the full back line. A goal came off that too.

So I've given Mattie plenty of praise for astute changes this year but I think he got those two changes badly wrong yesterday. But still with 10 mins to go it was there for us to win.

On players I thought for us McVitty was outstanding, on his own in the forwards really. Where Ros has 4/5 guys that will score with any sight of the posts we were totally reliant on Dara and he delivered. What horrible luck his injury is. I though Clarke did Trojan work (again on his own in the middle) and Mackey was also excellent. The rest fought hard as they could. One player that really is disappointing me is Gearoid McKiernan. He now needs to be dropped. Simply he is hiding in these games, wants others to do the dirty work for him so he can kick easy points. He couldn't even do that yesterday. Clarke spent the day running after 2 men in midfield. I dont know where Buchanan, Thomas Galligan or David Brady are gone but for me McKiernan needs a serious kick up the hole and a place on the bench against Donegal would be a good start.

Congrats to Roscommon, a very good team that should be well able to stay in Div 1.

ye were 5/4 to beat clare that day ;)

very enjoyable final yesterday
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on April 02, 2018, 11:07:54 AM
Exciting game alright. Disappointed by the result but have to temper that with the fact that at the start of the year I'd have ripped your hand off if you'd offered me promotion but losing the league final. We were after all something like 4-1 to beat Clare in Ennis in the 1st round so its quite a turnaround for us. We at least have a team of lads who will fight for the jersey.

Now on the game I do think it was there for Cavan for the winning with 10 mins to go. We had fought back level after being 6 points down. We were winning every kickout and it just needed some calm heads to see it out. But instead we hit self destuct. Conor Madden missed 1-3 - all very scorable. Galligan missed 2 45s, one which he should be scoring. We had poor shots drop short and bad wides. They werent difficult chances either, just really bad misses.

We then had the debacle with McVitty clearly pulling a hamstring and management left him on, a ball into him resulted in a goal and probably a hamstring in shite which threatens our best player and captains appearance vrs Donegal.

Another balls up by management i thought was putting Johnson on at ctr forward at half. Roscommon did exactly the right thing when he went in there, his man drove up the field at every opportunity and forced Johnson to be operating in the full back line. A goal came off that too.

So I've given Mattie plenty of praise for astute changes this year but I think he got those two changes badly wrong yesterday. But still with 10 mins to go it was there for us to win.

On players I thought for us McVitty was outstanding, on his own in the forwards really. Where Ros has 4/5 guys that will score with any sight of the posts we were totally reliant on Dara and he delivered. What horrible luck his injury is. I though Clarke did Trojan work (again on his own in the middle) and Mackey was also excellent. The rest fought hard as they could. One player that really is disappointing me is Gearoid McKiernan. He now needs to be dropped. Simply he is hiding in these games, wants others to do the dirty work for him so he can kick easy points. He couldn't even do that yesterday. Clarke spent the day running after 2 men in midfield. I dont know where Buchanan, Thomas Galligan or David Brady are gone but for me McKiernan needs a serious kick up the hole and a place on the bench against Donegal would be a good start.

Congrats to Roscommon, a very good team that should be well able to stay in Div 1.

ye were 5/4 to beat clare that day ;)

very enjoyable final yesterday

Are you sure? I thought it had drifted way out on the morning of the match.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: tippabu on April 02, 2018, 11:20:35 AM
Exciting game alright. Disappointed by the result but have to temper that with the fact that at the start of the year I'd have ripped your hand off if you'd offered me promotion but losing the league final. We were after all something like 4-1 to beat Clare in Ennis in the 1st round so its quite a turnaround for us. We at least have a team of lads who will fight for the jersey.

Now on the game I do think it was there for Cavan for the winning with 10 mins to go. We had fought back level after being 6 points down. We were winning every kickout and it just needed some calm heads to see it out. But instead we hit self destuct. Conor Madden missed 1-3 - all very scorable. Galligan missed 2 45s, one which he should be scoring. We had poor shots drop short and bad wides. They werent difficult chances either, just really bad misses.

We then had the debacle with McVitty clearly pulling a hamstring and management left him on, a ball into him resulted in a goal and probably a hamstring in shite which threatens our best player and captains appearance vrs Donegal.

Another balls up by management i thought was putting Johnson on at ctr forward at half. Roscommon did exactly the right thing when he went in there, his man drove up the field at every opportunity and forced Johnson to be operating in the full back line. A goal came off that too.

So I've given Mattie plenty of praise for astute changes this year but I think he got those two changes badly wrong yesterday. But still with 10 mins to go it was there for us to win.

On players I thought for us McVitty was outstanding, on his own in the forwards really. Where Ros has 4/5 guys that will score with any sight of the posts we were totally reliant on Dara and he delivered. What horrible luck his injury is. I though Clarke did Trojan work (again on his own in the middle) and Mackey was also excellent. The rest fought hard as they could. One player that really is disappointing me is Gearoid McKiernan. He now needs to be dropped. Simply he is hiding in these games, wants others to do the dirty work for him so he can kick easy points. He couldn't even do that yesterday. Clarke spent the day running after 2 men in midfield. I dont know where Buchanan, Thomas Galligan or David Brady are gone but for me McKiernan needs a serious kick up the hole and a place on the bench against Donegal would be a good start.

Congrats to Roscommon, a very good team that should be well able to stay in Div 1.

ye were 5/4 to beat clare that day ;)

very enjoyable final yesterday

Are you sure? I thought it had drifted way out on the morning of the match.

Ive a screenshot from paddy power 2 days before on page 5 of this thread, i done it for the first few rounds to see if it would get some talk going based off the odds. There may have been a drift but no chance it ever went near 4/1, youd literally need to be sending out 15 supporters who traveled down to have that big of a drift!!
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: mrdeeds on April 02, 2018, 11:21:34 AM
Good synopsis Itchy. Gearoid really is someone that doesn't turn up in big games. Contributed very little. Too many of our players had off days shooting wise such as Mackey. Also defence far too open and left seriou pressure on Faulkner, Brady etc. Too many of our backs actually play as forwards for clubs so it's round pegs for square holes. Enda Flanagan caught wrong side for a goal but he's a forward so instinct not there. Johnson defending for another goal. Thought Bradley started well before fading after his man got to grips with him. Ado caused a lot of trouble in second half. The McVeety situation was so amateurish. Ciaran Brady at one stage roared at the sideline for them to get him off. Actually an enjoyable game and was two teams who had ultimately got promotion deciding to let the shackles off.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Westside on April 02, 2018, 11:26:07 AM
Gearoid to me looks disillusioned, the drive is gone out of him and he looks to be going through the motions. Hard to know what to do with him now but he seems like he needs a bit of a break from football.

Our full forward line outside of McVeety is barely Division 3 standard. We need Niall McDermott, Argue, Jack Brady, James McEnroe and Givney back if we have any realistic hopes of surviving next year.

We haven't played well in the last few games. We've picked up a few results but there's very little to be seen by way of progression. Unless we see some by the end of the summer, Mattie should go.
Title: Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
Post by: Itchy on April 02, 2018, 11:39:37 AM
Exciting game alright. Disappointed by the result but have to temper that with the fact that at the start of the year I'd have ripped your hand off if you'd offered me promotion but losing the league final. We were after all something like 4-1 to beat Clare in Ennis in the 1st round so its quite a turnaround for us. We at least have a team of lads who will fight for the jersey.

Now on the game I do think it was there for Cavan for the winning with 10 mins to go. We had fought back level after being 6 points down. We were winning every kickout and it just needed some calm heads to see it out. But instead we hit self destuct. Conor Madden missed 1-3 - all very scorable. Galligan missed 2 45s, one which he should be scoring. We had poor shots drop short and bad wides. They werent difficult chances either, just really bad misses.

We then had the debacle with McVitty clearly pulling a hamstring and management left him on, a ball into him resulted in a goal and probably a hamstring in shite which threatens our best player and captains appearance vrs Donegal.

Another balls up by management i thought was putting Johnson on at ctr forward at half. Roscommon did exactly the right thing when he went in there, his man drove up the field at every opportunity and forced Johnson to be operating in the full back line. A goal came off that too.

So I've given Mattie plenty of praise for astute changes this year but I think he got those two changes badly wrong yesterday. But still with 10 mins to go it was there for us to win.

On players I thought for us McVitty was outstanding, on his own in the forwards really. Where Ros has 4/5 guys that will score with any sight of the posts we were totally reliant on Dara and he delivered. What horrible luck his injury is. I though Clarke did Trojan work (again on his own in the middle) and Mackey was also excellent. The rest fought hard as they could. One player that really is disappointing me is Gearoid McKiernan. He now needs to be dropped. Simply he is hiding in these games, wants others to do the dirty work for him so he can kick easy points. He couldn't even do that yesterday. Clarke spent the day running after 2 men in midfield. I dont know where Buchanan, Thomas Galligan or David Brady are gone but for me McKiernan needs a serious kick