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Title: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 16, 2017, 05:14:36 AM
POT 1:  Russia, Germany, Brazil, Portugal, Argentina, Belgium, Poland, France.

POT 2:  Spain, Peru, Switzerland, England, Colombia, Mexico, Uruguay, Croatia.

POT 3:  Denmark, Iceland, Costa Rica, Sweden, Tunisia, Egypt, Senegal, Iran.

POT 4: Serbia, Nigeria, Australia, Japan, Morocco, Panama, South Korea, Saudi Arabia.

No teams from the same confederation, with the exception of UEFA, which could have up to two teams in the same group, will be drawn into the same group.

The Final Draw will take place on Friday 1 December at Moscow’s State Kremlin Palace.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: rrhf on November 16, 2017, 06:28:36 AM
Yawn
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2017, 09:34:37 AM
Will this thread get past 5 pages?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Esmarelda on November 16, 2017, 09:38:54 AM
I reckon if everyone that isn't interested takes the time to come in and tell us so, we'll get well above five pages.

I'm looking forward to it already. Belgium should be good craic with Martinez in charge.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Hardy on November 16, 2017, 09:44:40 AM
The Final Draw will take place on Friday 1 December at Moscow’s State Kremlin Palace.

 - and will be the most interesting part of the whole thing. Except maybe watching whether the Russians bother to rein in their hooligans (https://www.google.ie/search?biw=1600&bih=779&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=El0NWt7iDKSEgAairoDgBg&q=russian+hooligans&oq=russian+hooligans&gs_l=psy-ab.12..0j0i67k1j0l2j0i67k1j0j0i7i30k1l2j0i5i30k1j0i30k1.3937.3937.0.6844.1.1.0.0.0.0.92.92.1.1.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.91....0.XKyAEoWH1F4) or just decide to let them at it (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/russia-fan-violence-russian-official-tells-hooligans-well-done-lads-keep-it-up-after-condoning-euro-a7079861.html) on the visiting fans.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: bennydorano on November 16, 2017, 10:11:10 AM
Few potentially interesting ties - Saudi Arabia v Iran & the old Favourite Croatia v Serbia. The Spirit of Vukovar SC.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dire Ear on November 16, 2017, 11:36:03 AM
The Final Draw will take place on Friday 1 December at Moscow’s State Kremlin Palace.

 - and will be the most interesting part of the whole thing. Except maybe watching whether the Russians bother to rein in their hooligans (https://www.google.ie/search?biw=1600&bih=779&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=El0NWt7iDKSEgAairoDgBg&q=russian+hooligans&oq=russian+hooligans&gs_l=psy-ab.12..0j0i67k1j0l2j0i67k1j0j0i7i30k1l2j0i5i30k1j0i30k1.3937.3937.0.6844.1.1.0.0.0.0.92.92.1.1.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.1.91....0.XKyAEoWH1F4) or just decide to let them at it (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/russia-fan-violence-russian-official-tells-hooligans-well-done-lads-keep-it-up-after-condoning-euro-a7079861.html) on the visiting fans.
Russia v Engerland would be a thing of beauty !!!!!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: ned on November 16, 2017, 11:39:08 AM
Few potentially interesting ties - Saudi Arabia v Iran & the old Favourite Croatia v Serbia. The Spirit of Vukovar SC.

Saudi Arabia And Iran can only meet if they qualify for knockout stages.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on November 16, 2017, 12:00:30 PM
Brazil, England, Egypt, Serbia would be a tasty group.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: bennydorano on November 16, 2017, 12:52:19 PM
Few potentially interesting ties - Saudi Arabia v Iran & the old Favourite Croatia v Serbia. The Spirit of Vukovar SC.

Saudi Arabia And Iran can only meet if they qualify for knockout stages.
Why's that?

Edit - Scrub that, presumably in same qualifying group.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: ned on November 16, 2017, 01:37:46 PM
Few potentially interesting ties - Saudi Arabia v Iran & the old Favourite Croatia v Serbia. The Spirit of Vukovar SC.

Saudi Arabia And Iran can only meet if they qualify for knockout stages.
Why's that?

Edit - Scrub that, presumably in same qualifying group.

It's in the original post. Teams from same confederation cant be in same group, except uefa.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on December 01, 2017, 04:05:13 PM
Watched the draw there, fcuk that’s an awful lot of boring group games and they are going to expand it the next time  :o

England drew Belgium, Tunisia and Panama, they couldn’t mess that up could they  :D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on December 01, 2017, 04:17:31 PM
Draw made there.  Even though Ireland aren't there, I always love the World Cup.

Group A - Russia, Uruguay, Egypt, Saudi Arabia

Group B - Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran

Group C - France, Australia, Peru, Denmark

Group D - Argentina, Iceland, Nigeria, Croatia

Group E - Brazil, Switzerland, Costa Rica, Serbia

Group F - Germany, Mexico, Sweden, South Korea

Group G - Belgium, Panama, Tunisia, England

Group H - Poland, Senegal, Colombia, Japan
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on December 01, 2017, 04:29:56 PM
Portugal and Spain is the stand out group fixture.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on December 01, 2017, 04:44:58 PM
Portugal and Spain is the stand out group fixture.
Probably is on paper but I suppose it depends on when the game is. If it's the last game and they have both already qualified it could be a dead rubber .England v Belgium also falls into that bracket. A few others have the potential to be good like Argentina V Croatia.
Like every World Cup the real action won't start until the 2nd round.
Have the fixtures been finalised yet?
I actually forgot the draw was on until AZ posted.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on December 01, 2017, 04:49:59 PM
Watched the draw there, fcuk that’s an awful lot of boring group games and they are going to expand it the next time  :o

England drew Belgium, Tunisia and Panama, they couldn’t mess that up could they  :D

The tournament will miss Holland and Italy. The Dutch would have made some exciting football games in the group stage.

England got a handy group. Belgium will be tough but Panama and Tunisia will be big underdogs in this group.



Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 01, 2017, 05:22:07 PM
Draw made there.  Even though Ireland aren't there, I always love the World Cup.

Group A - Russia, Uruguay, Egypt, Saudi Arabia

Group B - Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran

Group C - France, Australia, Peru, Denmark

Group D - Argentina, Iceland, Nigeria, Croatia

Group E - Brazil, Switzerland, Costa Rica, Serbia

Group F - Germany, Mexico, Sweden, South Korea

Group G - Belgium, Panama, Tunisia, England

Group H - Poland, Senegal, Colombia, Japan
Republic of Ireland group winners Serbia will struggle to get out of that group while the play off winners Denmark should reach the next round.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2017, 07:01:37 PM
 Nobody surprised at Russia’s draw?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on December 01, 2017, 07:03:25 PM
Nobody surprised at Russia’s draw?

In what way?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2017, 07:08:08 PM
Nobody surprised at Russia’s draw?

In what way?

Handy draw, no?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on December 01, 2017, 07:31:15 PM
Nobody surprised at Russia’s draw?

In what way?

Handy draw, no?

Always important for the success of the Tournament that  the Host country to stay as long as possible in it.  FIFA  was stink enough to give Russia the Tournament, why should they stop there.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on December 01, 2017, 07:32:30 PM
It's not handy. Egypt are good as are uruguay. Hosts may not make it through i think.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 01, 2017, 08:00:05 PM
Watched the draw there, fcuk that’s an awful lot of boring group games and they are going to expand it the next time  :o

England drew Belgium, Tunisia and Panama, they couldn’t mess that up could they  :D

Hopefully, they can. Early exit, listen to the endless blubbering.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: playwiththewind1st on December 01, 2017, 08:03:43 PM
Nobody surprised at Russia’s draw?

If they do not make it through......Putin will hold a few Polonium tea parties. That's gonna concentrate minds.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 01, 2017, 08:13:35 PM
Nobody surprised at Russia’s draw?

In what way?

Handy draw, no?

Uruguay are better than Argentina. Suarez and Cavani up front - literally two best two strikers in world football at the moment. If both bring their club form to Russia they could well make a long run into the knockout stages.

Eygpt with Salah will give top two plenty to think about. Hardly a particularly easy draw.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: An Watcher on December 01, 2017, 08:59:02 PM
Hosts always get a reasonably handy draw due to the fact that they are top seeds. 
One of the main reasons why England are hardly ever tested in qualifying campaigns
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Orchard park on December 01, 2017, 09:46:13 PM
Nobody surprised at Russia’s draw?

In what way?

Handy draw, no?

Uruguay are better than Argentina. Suarez and Cavani up front - literally two best two strikers in world football at the moment. If both bring their club form to Russia they could well make a long run into the knockout stages.

Eygpt with Salah will give top two plenty to think about. Hardly a particularly easy draw.


Suarez is in shocking form, 5 in last 18 games for Barcelona I think it is
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on December 01, 2017, 10:37:42 PM
The Hand of God interfering with England at a World Cup again.


Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 01, 2017, 11:12:42 PM
Nobody surprised at Russia’s draw?

In what way?

Handy draw, no?

Uruguay are better than Argentina. Suarez and Cavani up front - literally two best two strikers in world football at the moment. If both bring their club form to Russia they could well make a long run into the knockout stages.

Eygpt with Salah will give top two plenty to think about. Hardly a particularly easy draw.


Suarez is in shocking form, 5 in last 18 games for Barcelona I think it is

And Barca are just running away with La Liga.

I checked his stats in La Liga and it’s ten games played, five goals and an assist. Many strikers wish for that to be their bad form.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2017, 11:30:50 PM
Nobody surprised at Russia’s draw?

In what way?

Handy draw, no?

Uruguay are better than Argentina. Suarez and Cavani up front - literally two best two strikers in world football at the moment. If both bring their club form to Russia they could well make a long run into the knockout stages.

Eygpt with Salah will give top two plenty to think about. Hardly a particularly easy draw.


Suarez is in shocking form, 5 in last 18 games for Barcelona I think it is

And Barca are just running away with La Liga.

I checked his stats in La Liga and it’s ten games played, five goals and an assist. Many strikers wish for that to be their bad form.

Stop relating club form to country form Ffs! Messi being prime example
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 01, 2017, 11:33:37 PM
Nobody surprised at Russia’s draw?

In what way?

Handy draw, no?

Uruguay are better than Argentina. Suarez and Cavani up front - literally two best two strikers in world football at the moment. If both bring their club form to Russia they could well make a long run into the knockout stages.

Eygpt with Salah will give top two plenty to think about. Hardly a particularly easy draw.


Suarez is in shocking form, 5 in last 18 games for Barcelona I think it is

And Barca are just running away with La Liga.

I checked his stats in La Liga and it’s ten games played, five goals and an assist. Many strikers wish for that to be their bad form.

Stop relating club form to country form Ffs! Messi being prime example

He almost won a WC with them on his back three years ago.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 01, 2017, 11:59:55 PM
He scored 4 goals ya ballon and they were bate!! Almost and did is like saying ROI almost qualified for the finals but didn’t, they were bate
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on December 02, 2017, 12:03:34 AM
They wouldn't even be in Russia if it weren't for him in the last game.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 02, 2017, 12:07:42 AM
He scored 4 goals ya ballon and they were bate!! Almost and did is like saying ROI almost qualified for the finals but didn’t, they were bate

Four goals in a WC by a midfielder - how wasn’t he dropped!?

You’re getting a wee bit ahead of yourself here, Aregetina got to the WC final - that’s nothing like saying we almost qualified.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2017, 01:10:00 PM
He scored 4 goals ya ballon and they were bate!! Almost and did is like saying ROI almost qualified for the finals but didn’t, they were bate

Four goals in a WC by a midfielder - how wasn’t he dropped!?

You’re getting a wee bit ahead of yourself here, Aregetina got to the WC final - that’s nothing like saying we almost qualified.

So you don’t think that Messi hasn't underperform at the World Cup finals ?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 02, 2017, 04:57:12 PM
He scored 4 goals ya ballon and they were bate!! Almost and did is like saying ROI almost qualified for the finals but didn’t, they were bate

Four goals in a WC by a midfielder - how wasn’t he dropped!?

You’re getting a wee bit ahead of yourself here, Aregetina got to the WC final - that’s nothing like saying we almost qualified.

So you don’t think that Messi hasn't underperform at the World Cup finals ?

Not at the one where he dragged Argentina to the final, ffs. I don’t know what you're even arguing here.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 02, 2017, 10:46:43 PM
The Argentine press have been on his back for years about his form during finals, he retired because of it. Missed his spot kick in the last finals he played in South America, retired and came back.

My point is don’t relate club form to finals form he’s not really set it on fire (like he did for Barca)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 27, 2018, 10:23:57 PM
Spain 6 Argentina 1 in tonights challenge game.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on March 28, 2018, 08:47:02 AM
Currently - zero interest in WC
Early May - I see WC is starting next month must put a bet on
Late May- what no Italy, damn I will just back Germany
Early June - Dips in and out of Group games, hopes England goes well
Late June - Completely hooked, sick of BBC pundits hopes England goes out on penalties to     Germany preferably
July - In France for Final hopes France are in it as the buzz in the camp site will be mighty
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on May 16, 2018, 02:29:21 PM
England final squad announced:

Goalkeepers:
Butland (Stoke), Pickford (Everton), Pope (Burnley)

Defenders:
Jones (Man Utd), Cahill (Chelsea), Walker (Man City), Trippier (Tottenham), Rose (Tottenham), Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Young (Man Utd), Stones (Man City), Maguire (Leicester)

Midfielders:
Dier (Tottenham), Henderson (Liverpool), Delph (Man City), Loftus-Cheek (Chelsea), Lingard (Man Utd), Alli (Tottenham)

Forwards:
Kane (Tottenham), Rashford (Man Utd), Vardy (Leicester), Sterling (Man City), Welbeck (Arsenal)

Edit:  Five players have been placed on standby - Tom Heaton (Burnley), James Tarkowski (Burnley), Lewis Cook - who?? (Bournemouth), Jake Livermore (WBA) and Adam Lallana (Liverpool).
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on May 16, 2018, 02:38:49 PM
England final squad announced:

Goalkeepers:
Butland (Stoke), Pickford (Everton), Pope (Burnley)

Defenders:
Jones (Man Utd), Cahill (Chelsea), Walker (Man City), Trippier (Tottenham), Rose (Tottenham), Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Young (Man Utd), Stones (Man City), Maguire (Leicester)

Midfielders:
Dier (Tottenham), Henderson (Liverpool), Delph (Man City), Loftus-Cheek (Chelsea), Lingard (Man Utd), Alli (Tottenham)

Forwards:
Kane (Tottenham), Rashford (Man Utd), Vardy (Leicester), Sterling (Man City), Welbeck (Arsenal)


That's woeful. Especially midfield. Their centre back selection is poor. Smalling is as good as any of the others bar Cahill perhaps. Welbeck very lucky to make that squad.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 16, 2018, 02:46:30 PM
Would look from that squad selection that he would like to go five at the back.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 16, 2018, 02:55:12 PM
England final squad announced:

Goalkeepers:
Butland (Stoke), Pickford (Everton), Pope (Burnley)

Defenders:
Jones (Man Utd), Cahill (Chelsea), Walker (Man City), Trippier (Tottenham), Rose (Tottenham), Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Young (Man Utd), Stones (Man City), Maguire (Leicester)

Midfielders:
Dier (Tottenham), Henderson (Liverpool), Delph (Man City), Loftus-Cheek (Chelsea), Lingard (Man Utd), Alli (Tottenham)

Forwards:
Kane (Tottenham), Rashford (Man Utd), Vardy (Leicester), Sterling (Man City), Welbeck (Arsenal)
The pretty much confirms the best players in the Premier league are Johnny foreigners.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on May 16, 2018, 02:59:26 PM
England final squad announced:

Goalkeepers:
Butland (Stoke), Pickford (Everton), Pope (Burnley)

Defenders:
Jones (Man Utd), Cahill (Chelsea), Walker (Man City), Trippier (Tottenham), Rose (Tottenham), Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Young (Man Utd), Stones (Man City), Maguire (Leicester)

Midfielders:
Dier (Tottenham), Henderson (Liverpool), Delph (Man City), Loftus-Cheek (Chelsea), Lingard (Man Utd), Alli (Tottenham)

Forwards:
Kane (Tottenham), Rashford (Man Utd), Vardy (Leicester), Sterling (Man City), Welbeck (Arsenal)

England's worse squad in my living memory. I expect them to do well. Last 8, if not last 4. Pressure will be off them to a certain extent and they may generate some team spirit that they've been lacking. World Cups are won with workman-like, team efforts. It might just suit them. (Probably lose all 3 games and be first team home now I've said that)
A European winner is almost Guaranteed. France or Germany for me.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on May 16, 2018, 03:05:11 PM
England final squad announced:

Goalkeepers:
Butland (Stoke), Pickford (Everton), Pope (Burnley)

Defenders:
Jones (Man Utd), Cahill (Chelsea), Walker (Man City), Trippier (Tottenham), Rose (Tottenham), Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Young (Man Utd), Stones (Man City), Maguire (Leicester)

Midfielders:
Dier (Tottenham), Henderson (Liverpool), Delph (Man City), Loftus-Cheek (Chelsea), Lingard (Man Utd), Alli (Tottenham)

Forwards:
Kane (Tottenham), Rashford (Man Utd), Vardy (Leicester), Sterling (Man City), Welbeck (Arsenal)

If all the above were on the transfer list, would there be much interest from the likes of Real Madrid or Barcelona?  Kane probably.....
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on May 16, 2018, 03:05:40 PM
He’ll play 3 at the back

                     Butland
       Walker-Maguire/Jones-Stones
Trippier                                 Young  :o
        Dier - Henderson - Ali
                 Sterling
                   Kane

On paper it looks a terrible squad but possibly they’ll do better than much more heralded squads (could hardly do worse I suppose)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: NAG1 on May 16, 2018, 03:09:55 PM
Is that not 5 at the back Boycey  :o
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on May 16, 2018, 03:16:37 PM
England final squad announced:

Goalkeepers:
Butland (Stoke), Pickford (Everton), Pope (Burnley)

Defenders:
Jones (Man Utd), Cahill (Chelsea), Walker (Man City), Trippier (Tottenham), Rose (Tottenham), Alexander-Arnold (Liverpool), Young (Man Utd), Stones (Man City), Maguire (Leicester)

Midfielders:
Dier (Tottenham), Henderson (Liverpool), Delph (Man City), Loftus-Cheek (Chelsea), Lingard (Man Utd), Alli (Tottenham)

Forwards:
Kane (Tottenham), Rashford (Man Utd), Vardy (Leicester), Sterling (Man City), Welbeck (Arsenal)

If all the above were on the transfer list, would there be much interest from the likes of Real Madrid or Barcelona?  Kane probably.....

You could say that about most international squads tbf.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on May 16, 2018, 03:19:42 PM
Is that not 5 at the back Boycey  :o

I'd have called it 5 at the back alright but the current 'in' thing is to call it 3 at the back https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/oct/09/gareth-southgate-back-three-england-world-cup
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on May 16, 2018, 03:40:44 PM
He’ll play 3 at the back

                     Butland
       Walker-Maguire/Jones-Stones
Trippier                                 Young  :o
        Dier - Henderson - Ali
                 Sterling
                   Kane

On paper it looks a terrible squad but possibly they’ll do better than much more heralded squads (could hardly do worse I suppose)

Yep...on paper it doesn't look like a squad that will have other teams quaking in their boots, but they've a decent draw in the group and last 16 stage (will play the winner/runner up of the Poland/Senegal/Colombia/Japan group if they get through).  I detect the English media and supporters have less expectancy than other years so they may go without pressure.  Can't see them being anywhere near winning it though.

In other news Mario Gotze scorer of the winning goal in the 2014 final not selected for the German provisional squad of 28.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Gmac on May 16, 2018, 03:48:29 PM
Young ? Ashley?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: oakleaflad on May 16, 2018, 03:49:24 PM
He’ll play 3 at the back

                     Butland
       Walker-Maguire/Jones-Stones
Trippier                                 Young  :o
        Dier - Henderson - Ali
                 Sterling
                   Kane

On paper it looks a terrible squad but possibly they’ll do better than much more heralded squads (could hardly do worse I suppose)

Yep...on paper it doesn't look like a squad that will have other teams quaking in their boots, but they've a decent draw in the group and last 16 stage (will play the winner/runner up of the Poland/Senegal/Colombia/Japan group if they get through). I detect the English media and supporters have less expectancy than other years so they may go without pressure.  Can't see them being anywhere near winning it though.

In other news Mario Gotze scorer of the winning goal in the 2014 final not selected for the German provisional squad of 28.
Until they make use of their relatively easy route to the quarter finals where the media will then explode with expectancy before the inevitable capitulation.

Gotze not making the Germany squad isn't surprising given his form since the diagnosis of his muscular disorder. It's a shame as he is very talented.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on May 16, 2018, 04:00:13 PM
He’ll play 3 at the back

                     Butland
       Walker-Maguire/Jones-Stones
Trippier                                 Young  :o
        Dier - Henderson - Ali
                 Sterling
                   Kane

On paper it looks a terrible squad but possibly they’ll do better than much more heralded squads (could hardly do worse I suppose)

Yep...on paper it doesn't look like a squad that will have other teams quaking in their boots, but they've a decent draw in the group and last 16 stage (will play the winner/runner up of the Poland/Senegal/Colombia/Japan group if they get through).  I detect the English media and supporters have less expectancy than other years so they may go without pressure.  Can't see them being anywhere near winning it though.

In other news Mario Gotze scorer of the winning goal in the 2014 final not selected for the German provisional squad of 28.
Big Sam got £9m for 6 months of work. The EPL is about money, not the game in England.
Until this changes England won't go anywhere in tournaments.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Taylor on May 16, 2018, 04:05:02 PM
He’ll play 3 at the back

                     Butland
       Walker-Maguire/Jones-Stones
Trippier                                 Young  :o
        Dier - Henderson - Ali
                 Sterling
                   Kane

On paper it looks a terrible squad but possibly they’ll do better than much more heralded squads (could hardly do worse I suppose)

Yep...on paper it doesn't look like a squad that will have other teams quaking in their boots, but they've a decent draw in the group and last 16 stage (will play the winner/runner up of the Poland/Senegal/Colombia/Japan group if they get through).  I detect the English media and supporters have less expectancy than other years so they may go without pressure.  Can't see them being anywhere near winning it though.

In other news Mario Gotze scorer of the winning goal in the 2014 final not selected for the German provisional squad of 28.
Big Sam got £9m for 6 months of work. The EPL is about money, not the game in England.
Until this changes England won't go anywhere in tournaments.
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Hasnt done much harm to the Spanish national team though?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on May 16, 2018, 04:07:04 PM
He’ll play 3 at the back

                     Butland
       Walker-Maguire/Jones-Stones
Trippier                                 Young  :o
        Dier - Henderson - Ali
                 Sterling
                   Kane

On paper it looks a terrible squad but possibly they’ll do better than much more heralded squads (could hardly do worse I suppose)


That team looks shaky to me. Surely Walker is a full back? They're very short of CB's to play 5 at the back.....there's only 4 in the squad if I'm right.

Also if anything happens Dier and/or Henderson what's the plan then? Surely Milner should be in the squad at the expense of one of the full backs (TAA probably)? Think they're actually alright the other end. On top of Alli, Kane and Sterling they have Rashford and Lingard. They need to try and get those lads on the pitch. 4-2-3-1 possibly their best chance of using resources properly.

                               Butland

Trippier/Walker     Cahill      Jones       Rose/Young 

                      Dier              Henderson

   Sterling                   Alli/Lingard           Rashford

                                Kane

I've not seen enough of Maguire and I don't rate Stones at all.

Agree with the comments that perversely the worst looking England squad on paper in my memory might actually do well.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 16, 2018, 04:12:51 PM
Milner is retired from international football.
He is probably the in form English midfielder at the minute too.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 16, 2018, 04:17:44 PM
Panama in the work draw  >:(
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on May 16, 2018, 04:18:06 PM
That England squad has scored 55 international goals in total.  Cristiano Ronaldo has 81, Messi has 61, Neymar has 53 and Lewandowski has 52.  It looks like it'll be the only squad with no players from outside its own league.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on May 16, 2018, 05:29:35 PM
He’ll play 3 at the back

                     Butland
       Walker-Maguire/Jones-Stones
Trippier                                 Young  :o
        Dier - Henderson - Ali
                 Sterling
                   Kane

On paper it looks a terrible squad but possibly they’ll do better than much more heralded squads (could hardly do worse I suppose)


That team looks shaky to me. Surely Walker is a full back? They're very short of CB's to play 5 at the back.....there's only 4 in the squad if I'm right.

Also if anything happens Dier and/or Henderson what's the plan then? Surely Milner should be in the squad at the expense of one of the full backs (TAA probably)? Think they're actually alright the other end. On top of Alli, Kane and Sterling they have Rashford and Lingard. They need to try and get those lads on the pitch. 4-2-3-1 possibly their best chance of using resources properly.

                               Butland

Trippier/Walker     Cahill      Jones       Rose/Young 

                      Dier              Henderson

   Sterling                   Alli/Lingard           Rashford

                                Kane

I've not seen enough of Maguire and I don't rate Stones at all.

Agree with the comments that perversely the worst looking England squad on paper in my memory might actually do well.

Dier can also play center half.

Very light on center mids. In-spite of the injury record I thought Lallana would've been in there. He brings something different.

Can't say I watched a lot of England but haven't they being experimenting Walker and Gomez at the right side of a 3?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: 02 on May 16, 2018, 05:35:18 PM
He’ll play 3 at the back

                     Butland
       Walker-Maguire/Jones-Stones
Trippier                                 Young  :o
        Dier - Henderson - Ali
                 Sterling
                   Kane

On paper it looks a terrible squad but possibly they’ll do better than much more heralded squads (could hardly do worse I suppose)


That team looks shaky to me. Surely Walker is a full back? They're very short of CB's to play 5 at the back.....there's only 4 in the squad if I'm right.

Also if anything happens Dier and/or Henderson what's the plan then? Surely Milner should be in the squad at the expense of one of the full backs (TAA probably)? Think they're actually alright the other end. On top of Alli, Kane and Sterling they have Rashford and Lingard. They need to try and get those lads on the pitch. 4-2-3-1 possibly their best chance of using resources properly.

                               Butland

Trippier/Walker     Cahill      Jones       Rose/Young 

                      Dier              Henderson

   Sterling                   Alli/Lingard           Rashford

                                Kane

I've not seen enough of Maguire and I don't rate Stones at all.

Agree with the comments that perversely the worst looking England squad on paper in my memory might actually do well.

Dier can also play center half.

Very light on center mids. In-spite of the injury record I thought Lallana would've been in there. He brings something different.

Can't say I watched a lot of England but haven't they being experimenting Walker and Gomez at the right side of a 3?

No much better to select a striker who has scored 5 league goals all season, the other teams must be trembling with fear...
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on May 16, 2018, 05:37:38 PM
             Pickford
     Walker Stones Maguire
Trippier Henderson Dier Rose
                   Alli
            Sterling Kane

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Loftus Cheek start in the first game instead of Alli..
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: thewobbler on May 16, 2018, 05:43:00 PM
Can’t see him starting Walker at centre back. That was an experiment.

Maguire and Stones with Jones or Cahill. Walker will be RWB.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on May 16, 2018, 07:18:49 PM
Maguire? Trippier? Pickford? Who are these boys?

Engerland are so f**ked  ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on May 16, 2018, 07:30:52 PM
Maguire? Trippier? Pickford? Who are these boys?

Engerland are so f**ked  ;D
the players you picked are far from the worst in that squad. welbeck, pope and loftus cheek?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on May 16, 2018, 07:37:06 PM
Pope is ok. Trippier is decent and maguire not too bad. I don't understand why wellbeck is going.

I was hoping hart would go - he's rubbish :D

Still possibly the poorest England squad i think i have seen at a world cup.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: 02 on May 16, 2018, 07:45:11 PM
Maguire? Trippier? Pickford? Who are these boys?

Engerland are so f**ked  ;D
the players you picked are far from the worst in that squad. welbeck, pope and loftus cheek?

Sounds like a smart-ass mayo man!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on May 16, 2018, 08:20:58 PM
Milk would turn quicker than Maguire😜
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: michaelg on May 16, 2018, 08:47:31 PM
Milk would turn quicker than Maguire😜
Looks a big old unit Maguire
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on May 16, 2018, 09:02:55 PM
Maguire? Trippier? Pickford? Who are these boys?

Engerland are so f**ked  ;D
the players you picked are far from the worst in that squad. welbeck, pope and loftus cheek?

Engerland are sooooooo f**ked  ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on May 16, 2018, 09:08:34 PM
Biggest problem i see for England is their manager. How can they seriously do well in the World cup with a manager as average as Gareth Southgate?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Minder on May 16, 2018, 09:08:57 PM
Maguire? Trippier? Pickford? Who are these boys?

Engerland are so f**ked  ;D
the players you picked are far from the worst in that squad. welbeck, pope and loftus cheek?

Engerland are sooooooo f**ked  ;D

Might be too soon but Loftus Cheek is going to be a cracking player
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: DownFanatic on May 18, 2018, 10:59:35 AM
France and Germany the two best bets?
Portugal seem to have a strong squad and the Belgium side has plenty of talent.
What sort of shape are Brazil and Argentina in?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on May 18, 2018, 11:06:07 AM
Brazil in good form, Argentina a mess and Messi seemingly picking the squad according to Tim Vickery on OTB.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on May 18, 2018, 12:00:44 PM
Brazil overall favourites but traditionally the South American teams struggle in Europe with only 2 beaten finalists to their names since Brazil won in Sweden in 1958. If you were offering me a free bet I'd take France with maybe Croatia as a live outsider.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: johnnycool on May 18, 2018, 12:07:31 PM
Brazil overall favourites but traditionally the South American teams struggle in Europe with only 2 beaten finalists to their names since Brazil won in Sweden in 1958. If you were offering me a free bet I'd take France with maybe Croatia as a live outsider.

In fighting going to prevent Belgium making shapes again??
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 18, 2018, 12:14:27 PM
Brazil overall favourites but traditionally the South American teams struggle in Europe with only 2 beaten finalists to their names since Brazil won in Sweden in 1958. If you were offering me a free bet I'd take France with maybe Croatia as a live outsider.

In fighting going to prevent Belgium making shapes again??

Stephen Wallace rumoured to be taking over them.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on May 18, 2018, 12:14:46 PM
Belgium always strike me as a talented bunch of individuals but not a great team if that makes sense? But if it does click for them they could go close.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on May 18, 2018, 12:15:37 PM
Belgium always strike me as a talented bunch of individuals but not a great team if that makes sense? But if it does click for them they could go close.

Like the Dutch used to be.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Taylor on May 18, 2018, 12:17:14 PM
Belgium always strike me as a talented bunch of individuals but not a great team if that makes sense? But if it does click for them they could go close.

Yeah, always good players but underperform.
Martinez no bad manager but getting them to gel cant be easy.

The players not in the France squad is mental and would push most teams close
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on May 24, 2018, 10:18:07 AM
52 years of hurt but they come out with a decent song every so often

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaBdajHOsSM
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Orior on May 24, 2018, 10:32:25 AM
Time to roll out this again, and at least I replaced Yugoslavia with Croatia but I'm so lazy I haven't even checked if they qualified.


Soccer World Cup Squads Announced
=======================

The following squads have been announced for the 2018 World Cup

BRAZILIAN SQUAD for World Cup
Goalkeeper: Pincochio
Sweeper:  Libero
Defenders: Vimto, Memento, Borneo, Tango
Midfield: Cheerio, Subbuteo, Scenario, Fellatio
Forwards: Portfolio
Substitutes: Placebo, Porno, Polio, Banjo, Brasso, Stereo (L), Stereo (R), Hydrochlorofluoro, Aristotle


CROATIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Itch
Defenders:  Annoyingitch, Hardtoreachitch, Scratchanditch
Midfielders: Hic, Sic, Spic, Pric
Wingers: Digaditch, Fallinaditch
Forwards: Horseraditch
Substitutes: Mowapitch, Letsgetrich, Shagabitch


RUSSIAN  SQUAD
Goalkeeper:  Whodyanicabolicov
Wing Backs: Ticlycov, Chesticov, Nasticov
Defenders:  Slalomsky, Downhilsky
Midfielders:  Risky, Swedishskev, Mastershev
Forwards:  Fuckov, Taykitov
Substitutes: Rubitov, Gechakitov, Sodov, Pastryshev, Najinsky, Desert Orchid


ROMANIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Chatanoogaciouciou
Wing Backs: Atishiou, Blessiou, Thankyou
Defenders: Busqueue, Snookercu
Midfielders: Pennyciou, Twoapennyciou, Fourapennyciou
Forwards: I'llgetciou, Youandwhosarmi
Substitutes: U, NonU, ManU, Stuffyiou, Lee Kwan Yu


DANISH  SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Toomanigoalssen
Defenders: Tryandstopussen, Crapdefenssen, Haveagossen
Midfielders: Firstsson, Secondsson, Thirdsson
Wingers: Legshurtssen, Notroubleseeingussen
Forwards: Wherestheballssen, Getthebeerssen
Substitutes: Howmanygoalsisthatssen, Finallygaveupcountinssen, Hurryupandblowthewhistlessen, YourelatedtoAlexFergusonssen


ITIALIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Baloni
Defenders: Potbelli, Beerbelli, Giveitsumwelli
Midfielders: Wotsontelli, Toonsgotkenni, Onetoomani
Wingers: Legslikejelli, Havabenni
Forwards: Wobblijelli, Spendapenni
Substitutes: Cantthinkofani, Buggermi


MEXICAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: San Francisco
Defenders: Costa Brava, Hopelez, Juan Andonly, Manual Gearbox
Midfielders: Don Criformi-Argentina, Bodegas, Luis Canon, Sombrero
Forwards: Chihuahua, Jose
Substitutes: Jesus Maria Don Key, Burrito, Speedy Gonzalez, Tequila, Caramba


DUTCH SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Kenning Van Hire
Defenders: Van Diemansland, Van der Valk, Van Gard, Van Erealdizeez
Midfielders: Ad Van Tagus, Van Sprokendown, Aye van Hoe
Forwards: Van Coova, Hertz Van Rental, Transit Van Dors
Substitutes: Van Iller, Van Ishincreme, Van Morrison
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 24, 2018, 10:40:35 AM
Who is everyone 'supporting' this time? My two (other) favourites, the Netherlands and Italy haven't made it. Might pick Portugal because of the flag.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on May 24, 2018, 10:40:55 AM
Some great names over the years.....always remember Lopez Ufarte😎
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on May 24, 2018, 10:45:26 AM
Time to roll out this again, and at least I replaced Yugoslavia with Croatia but I'm so lazy I haven't even checked if they qualified.


Soccer World Cup Squads Announced
=======================

The following squads have been announced for the 2018 World Cup

BRAZILIAN SQUAD for World Cup
Goalkeeper: Pincochio
Sweeper:  Libero
Defenders: Vimto, Memento, Borneo, Tango
Midfield: Cheerio, Subbuteo, Scenario, Fellatio
Forwards: Portfolio
Substitutes: Placebo, Porno, Polio, Banjo, Brasso, Stereo (L), Stereo (R), Hydrochlorofluoro, Aristotle


CROATIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Itch
Defenders:  Annoyingitch, Hardtoreachitch, Scratchanditch
Midfielders: Hic, Sic, Spic, Pric
Wingers: Digaditch, Fallinaditch
Forwards: Horseraditch
Substitutes: Mowapitch, Letsgetrich, Shagabitch


RUSSIAN  SQUAD
Goalkeeper:  Whodyanicabolicov
Wing Backs: Ticlycov, Chesticov, Nasticov
Defenders:  Slalomsky, Downhilsky
Midfielders:  Risky, Swedishskev, Mastershev
Forwards:  Fuckov, Taykitov
Substitutes: Rubitov, Gechakitov, Sodov, Pastryshev, Najinsky, Desert Orchid


ROMANIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Chatanoogaciouciou
Wing Backs: Atishiou, Blessiou, Thankyou
Defenders: Busqueue, Snookercu
Midfielders: Pennyciou, Twoapennyciou, Fourapennyciou
Forwards: I'llgetciou, Youandwhosarmi
Substitutes: U, NonU, ManU, Stuffyiou, Lee Kwan Yu


DANISH  SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Toomanigoalssen
Defenders: Tryandstopussen, Crapdefenssen, Haveagossen
Midfielders: Firstsson, Secondsson, Thirdsson
Wingers: Legshurtssen, Notroubleseeingussen
Forwards: Wherestheballssen, Getthebeerssen
Substitutes: Howmanygoalsisthatssen, Finallygaveupcountinssen, Hurryupandblowthewhistlessen, YourelatedtoAlexFergusonssen


ITIALIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Baloni
Defenders: Potbelli, Beerbelli, Giveitsumwelli
Midfielders: Wotsontelli, Toonsgotkenni, Onetoomani
Wingers: Legslikejelli, Havabenni
Forwards: Wobblijelli, Spendapenni
Substitutes: Cantthinkofani, Buggermi


MEXICAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: San Francisco
Defenders: Costa Brava, Hopelez, Juan Andonly, Manual Gearbox
Midfielders: Don Criformi-Argentina, Bodegas, Luis Canon, Sombrero
Forwards: Chihuahua, Jose
Substitutes: Jesus Maria Don Key, Burrito, Speedy Gonzalez, Tequila, Caramba


DUTCH SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Kenning Van Hire
Defenders: Van Diemansland, Van der Valk, Van Gard, Van Erealdizeez
Midfielders: Ad Van Tagus, Van Sprokendown, Aye van Hoe
Forwards: Van Coova, Hertz Van Rental, Transit Van Dors
Substitutes: Van Iller, Van Ishincreme, Van Morrison
I love the addition of Desert Orchid to the Russian subs
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dire Ear on May 24, 2018, 11:10:33 AM
Who is everyone 'supporting' this time? My two (other) favourites, the Netherlands and Italy haven't made it. Might pick Portugal because of the flag.
Egypt
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on May 24, 2018, 12:07:19 PM
I'm always an Italian supporter as I am a small bit Italian. Probably will plump with Germany this time. The wee lad is pinning his hopes on Spain. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Avondhu star on May 24, 2018, 12:11:13 PM
Time to roll out this again, and at least I replaced Yugoslavia with Croatia but I'm so lazy I haven't even checked if they qualified.


Soccer World Cup Squads Announced
=======================

The following squads have been announced for the 2018 World Cup

BRAZILIAN SQUAD for World Cup
Goalkeeper: Pincochio
Sweeper:  Libero
Defenders: Vimto, Memento, Borneo, Tango
Midfield: Cheerio, Subbuteo, Scenario, Fellatio
Forwards: Portfolio
Substitutes: Placebo, Porno, Polio, Banjo, Brasso, Stereo (L), Stereo (R), Hydrochlorofluoro, Aristotle


CROATIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Itch
Defenders:  Annoyingitch, Hardtoreachitch, Scratchanditch
Midfielders: Hic, Sic, Spic, Pric
Wingers: Digaditch, Fallinaditch
Forwards: Horseraditch
Substitutes: Mowapitch, Letsgetrich, Shagabitch


RUSSIAN  SQUAD
Goalkeeper:  Whodyanicabolicov
Wing Backs: Ticlycov, Chesticov, Nasticov
Defenders:  Slalomsky, Downhilsky
Midfielders:  Risky, Swedishskev, Mastershev
Forwards:  Fuckov, Taykitov
Substitutes: Rubitov, Gechakitov, Sodov, Pastryshev, Najinsky, Desert Orchid


ROMANIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Chatanoogaciouciou
Wing Backs: Atishiou, Blessiou, Thankyou
Defenders: Busqueue, Snookercu
Midfielders: Pennyciou, Twoapennyciou, Fourapennyciou
Forwards: I'llgetciou, Youandwhosarmi
Substitutes: U, NonU, ManU, Stuffyiou, Lee Kwan Yu


DANISH  SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Toomanigoalssen
Defenders: Tryandstopussen, Crapdefenssen, Haveagossen
Midfielders: Firstsson, Secondsson, Thirdsson
Wingers: Legshurtssen, Notroubleseeingussen
Forwards: Wherestheballssen, Getthebeerssen
Substitutes: Howmanygoalsisthatssen, Finallygaveupcountinssen, Hurryupandblowthewhistlessen, YourelatedtoAlexFergusonssen


ITIALIAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Baloni
Defenders: Potbelli, Beerbelli, Giveitsumwelli
Midfielders: Wotsontelli, Toonsgotkenni, Onetoomani
Wingers: Legslikejelli, Havabenni
Forwards: Wobblijelli, Spendapenni
Substitutes: Cantthinkofani, Buggermi


MEXICAN SQUAD
Goalkeeper: San Francisco
Defenders: Costa Brava, Hopelez, Juan Andonly, Manual Gearbox
Midfielders: Don Criformi-Argentina, Bodegas, Luis Canon, Sombrero
Forwards: Chihuahua, Jose
Substitutes: Jesus Maria Don Key, Burrito, Speedy Gonzalez, Tequila, Caramba


DUTCH SQUAD
Goalkeeper: Kenning Van Hire
Defenders: Van Diemansland, Van der Valk, Van Gard, Van Erealdizeez
Midfielders: Ad Van Tagus, Van Sprokendown, Aye van Hoe
Forwards: Van Coova, Hertz Van Rental, Transit Van Dors
Substitutes: Van Iller, Van Ishincreme, Van Morrison
I love the addition of Desert Orchid to the Russian subs
Ivor Bigun didn't make the panel
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2018, 06:01:30 PM
Fancy France this year, managed to back the top scorer in the Euros last time but struggling to have a pick this time! Last time out over 9 corners was a decent bet for me
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on May 28, 2018, 06:52:58 PM
I'll be cheering on Iceland.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: blewuporstuffed on May 29, 2018, 08:17:39 AM
Fancy France this year, managed to back the top scorer in the Euros last time but struggling to have a pick this time! Last time out over 9 corners was a decent bet for me
The french squad looks very strong on paper anyway.
Hard to know what they will go with for the starting lineup though
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BenDover on May 30, 2018, 10:46:07 AM
For any of you with kids that have FIFA 18 - they've released a free World Cup update available to download. We've a PS4 think it's available on a few other platforms as well.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Orior on May 30, 2018, 11:48:04 AM
One of the best headlines ever "Raheem shoots himself in the foot"

Of course the irony award goes to Piers Morgan who chastised Raheem. Piers supports Arsenal, whose logo in a cannon.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on May 30, 2018, 12:50:51 PM
For any of you with kids that have FIFA 18 - they've released a free World Cup update available to download. We've a PS4 think it's available on a few other platforms as well.

I packed Messi in my Ultiamte Team, lad.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: lurganblue on June 04, 2018, 02:38:35 PM
So Sane doesn't make the German world cup squad.  They must have some side because there is no doubt that the lad is a real talent.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Orior on June 04, 2018, 02:41:29 PM
So Sane doesn't make the German world cup squad.  They must have some side because there is no doubt that the lad is a real talent.

Yes, it's inSane.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 04, 2018, 04:00:41 PM
So Sane doesn't make the German world cup squad.  They must have some side because there is no doubt that the lad is a real talent.

Yes, it's inSane.
Only the 32414 time I've read that today. Well done. Very original.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 04, 2018, 04:04:47 PM
So Sane doesn't make the German world cup squad.  They must have some side because there is no doubt that the lad is a real talent.

Yes, it's inSane.
Only the 32414 time I've read that today. Well done. Very original.

Thank f&ck that pun never even crossed my mind  :P
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Orior on June 04, 2018, 04:58:21 PM
So Sane doesn't make the German world cup squad.  They must have some side because there is no doubt that the lad is a real talent.

Yes, it's inSane.
Only the 32414 time I've read that today. Well done. Very original.

Thank f&ck that pun never even crossed my mind  :P

Yeah yeah, but I came up with it fürst.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 04, 2018, 05:32:23 PM
So Sane doesn't make the German world cup squad.  They must have some side because there is no doubt that the lad is a real talent.

Yes, it's inSane.
Only the 32414 time I've read that today. Well done. Very original.
I don't even have to check Gary Lineker's twitter feed to know it is already there.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 04, 2018, 08:34:46 PM
A decent team of players not going to the World cup 2018.


Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on June 13, 2018, 09:39:31 AM
Spain supposedly sacking their manager the day before the tournament after it was leaked yesterday he will take over Real Madrid after the tournament.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 13, 2018, 09:49:27 AM
Spain supposedly sacking their manager the day before the tournament after it was leaked yesterday he will take over Real Madrid after the tournament.

Crazy situation.....Big Sam is on standby 😎
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 13, 2018, 09:51:17 AM
It wasn't leaked, it was announced publicly!

The federation absolutely raging as he recently signed a new contract. Hierro is now one of the bigwigs in it so can maybe smooth things over.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: GetOverTheBar on June 13, 2018, 11:10:15 AM
Spain supposedly sacking their manager the day before the tournament after it was leaked yesterday he will take over Real Madrid after the tournament.

He's now gone.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 13, 2018, 11:17:47 AM
Amazing stuff altogether.

Players by all accounts didn't want him to go but the federation president, Rubiales, is fuming they he was only made aware of things five mins before the Madrid press release. Making it all about him rather than what the team wants/needs.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: screenexile on June 13, 2018, 11:19:42 AM
Absolute complete and utter madness!!!!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2018, 11:24:32 AM
Has also affected their chances, well according to the bookies!! dropped from 11/2 to 13/2
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 13, 2018, 11:30:55 AM



The only man for the job
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 13, 2018, 12:11:51 PM
Mexico USA and Canada to host the 2026 World Cup.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: ballinaman on June 13, 2018, 12:29:57 PM
Mexico USA and Canada to host the 2026 World Cup.
Congrats to Canada on qualifying
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 13, 2018, 01:13:43 PM
Hierro going to take the Spain team.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 13, 2018, 01:18:18 PM
Figured he would, I read your comments earlier but I think they had little choice to sack him despite the players wishes. Madrid are the real villian here? There was no need to make it public til after the World Cup.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 13, 2018, 01:32:54 PM
Mexico USA and Canada to host the 2026 World Cup.

Wall put on hold then?😜
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 13, 2018, 01:49:40 PM
Mexico USA and Canada to host the 2026 World Cup.

Wall put on hold then?😜

If Trump is still in power then there might not be a World cup, but a World War !!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 13, 2018, 01:55:12 PM
Spain supposedly sacking their manager the day before the tournament after it was leaked yesterday he will take over Real Madrid after the tournament.

He's now gone.
Ridiculous. I hope they have early exit after that carry on now.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 13, 2018, 02:11:26 PM
Figured he would, I read your comments earlier but I think they had little choice to sack him despite the players wishes. Madrid are the real villian here? There was no need to make it public til after the World Cup.

There wasn't, but given it was already done, I don't see the need to sack him if the players don't want them to. The ambition is to win the world cup.

Bobby Robson was leaving England after WC 90 and it didn't hamper them at all.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Minder on June 13, 2018, 02:16:53 PM
Figured he would, I read your comments earlier but I think they had little choice to sack him despite the players wishes. Madrid are the real villian here? There was no need to make it public til after the World Cup.

There wasn't, but given it was already done, I don't see the need to sack him if the players don't want them to. The ambition is to win the world cup.

Bobby Robson was leaving England after WC 90 and it didn't hamper them at all.

Think that was common knowledge and the FA knew, the Spanish FA were right to be pissed off that he didn’t inform them of the Real Madrid job until 5 mins before it was announced , especially after just signing a new contract. Still wouldn’t have sacked him though.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 13, 2018, 04:15:25 PM
If the objective is to give the team the best chance possible of winning the WC, there's no way changing coach helps. Federation putting its pride first.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Minder on June 13, 2018, 04:17:07 PM
If the objective is to give the team the best chance possible of winning the WC, there's no way changing coach helps. Federation putting its pride first.

Yep
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 13, 2018, 05:14:48 PM
Mexico USA and Canada to host the 2026 World Cup.
Congrats to Canada on qualifying

They'd have qualified anyway. There will be 168 teams in it by then.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 13, 2018, 05:20:54 PM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 13, 2018, 05:48:14 PM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.

You seriously think Mexico are capable of hosting a modern WC on its own?

:o
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 13, 2018, 05:53:57 PM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.

You seriously think Mexico are capable of hosting a modern WC on its own?

:o

Are you Donald Trump? They've already held two. No borr to them... sure Brazil held the last one
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on June 13, 2018, 05:58:20 PM
If the objective is to give the team the best chance possible of winning the WC, there's no way changing coach helps. Federation putting its pride first.


Ya....it would be like sending your best player home before the tournament or something like that.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 13, 2018, 06:07:31 PM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.

Quantity over quality. No need for triple hosts. Just look at how tiny Qatar are and they will be hosting the 2022 World cup.





Time for the English to pull the finger out and get hosting another World cup.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 13, 2018, 06:26:09 PM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.

You seriously think Mexico are capable of hosting a modern WC on its own?

:o

Are you Donald Trump? They've already held two. No borr to them... sure Brazil held the last one

Seriously?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 13, 2018, 06:33:18 PM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.

Quantity over quality. No need for triple hosts. Just look at how tiny Qatar are and they will be hosting the 2022 World cup.





Time for the English to pull the finger big brown envelope out and get hosting another World cup.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Therealdonald on June 13, 2018, 06:36:48 PM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.

You seriously think Mexico are capable of hosting a modern WC on its own?

:o

Are you Donald Trump? They've already held two. No borr to them... sure Brazil held the last one

Seriously?

Syf have you ever been to Mexico?? They are more than qualified to host it. I agree that it didn't need 3 hosts, but it will bring a novelty to proceedings anyway. Be a a nice trip if the Repiblic can qualify.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 13, 2018, 06:38:39 PM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.

You seriously think Mexico are capable of hosting a modern WC on its own?

:o

Are you Donald Trump? They've already held two. No borr to them... sure Brazil held the last one

Seriously?

Syf have you ever been to Mexico?? They are more than qualified to host it. I agree that it didn't need 3 hosts, but it will bring a novelty to proceedings anyway. Be a a nice trip if the Repiblic can qualify.

Mexico are in no way qualified to host a WC. And using Brazil, with the incredible debt they incurred trying to get aging stadia up to standard among other white elephant infrastructure projects while the poor continued to suffer as proof of the contrary shows a serious lack of perspective.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Therealdonald on June 13, 2018, 07:01:18 PM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.

You seriously think Mexico are capable of hosting a modern WC on its own?

:o

Are you Donald Trump? They've already held two. No borr to them... sure Brazil held the last one

Seriously?

Syf have you ever been to Mexico?? They are more than qualified to host it. I agree that it didn't need 3 hosts, but it will bring a novelty to proceedings anyway. Be a a nice trip if the Repiblic can qualify.

Mexico are in no way qualified to host a WC. And using Brazil, with the incredible debt they incurred trying to get aging stadia up to standard among other white elephant infrastructure projects while the poor continued to suffer as proof of the contrary shows a serious lack of perspective.

How are they not qualified to host a WC in comparison to Morocco?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 13, 2018, 07:05:26 PM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.

You seriously think Mexico are capable of hosting a modern WC on its own?

:o

Are you Donald Trump? They've already held two. No borr to them... sure Brazil held the last one

Seriously?

Syf have you ever been to Mexico?? They are more than qualified to host it. I agree that it didn't need 3 hosts, but it will bring a novelty to proceedings anyway. Be a a nice trip if the Repiblic can qualify.

Mexico are in no way qualified to host a WC. And using Brazil, with the incredible debt they incurred trying to get aging stadia up to standard among other white elephant infrastructure projects while the poor continued to suffer as proof of the contrary shows a serious lack of perspective.

How are they not qualified to host a WC in comparison to Morocco?

Your attempts to willfully mischaracterise what is said are kinda boring.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: dec on June 13, 2018, 07:39:53 PM
Deadspin has a great headline for the Spain manager story

https://deadspin.com/spain-shoots-its-own-dick-off-in-the-name-of-propriety-1826791494
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 13, 2018, 07:41:38 PM
The last World Cup that México hosted had 24 teams. The 2026 one will have 48 teams. No way that México would have the infrastructure to support that.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on June 13, 2018, 07:49:22 PM
If the US can't host it on its own then nobody can. 48 teams will require a lot of stadia and infrastructure.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 13, 2018, 07:54:26 PM
If the US can't host it on its own then nobody can. 48 teams will require a lot of stadia and infrastructure.

No one has said the Us couldn’t host it on their own.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 13, 2018, 08:37:56 PM
If the US can't host it on its own then nobody can. 48 teams will require a lot of stadia and infrastructure.

No one has said the Us couldn’t host it on their own.

Of course they could. They could host two world cups at the same time if they wanted.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 14, 2018, 08:17:42 AM
USA and Mexico hosted it before so they proved they can stage it on their own. I'd say all 3 is capable of staging it on their own, so why the need for a triple bid?

Two hosts too many means 2 less qualifying spots. But like I said, there'll be hundreds of teams in it by then so even Ireland should qualify.

You seriously think Mexico are capable of hosting a modern WC on its own?

:o

Are you Donald Trump? They've already held two. No borr to them... sure Brazil held the last one

Seriously?

Syf have you ever been to Mexico?? They are more than qualified to host it. I agree that it didn't need 3 hosts, but it will bring a novelty to proceedings anyway. Be a a nice trip if the Repiblic can qualify.

Mexico are in no way qualified to host a WC. And using Brazil, with the incredible debt they incurred trying to get aging stadia up to standard among other white elephant infrastructure projects while the poor continued to suffer as proof of the contrary shows a serious lack of perspective.
South Africa and Russia would be further behind than Mexico and they both won the right to hold the World Cup.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 14, 2018, 08:18:20 AM
Conor Moore :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-TRs2g9aVo
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mouview on June 14, 2018, 11:12:47 AM
From a football purists POV, hope it's a Belgium/Argentina final.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Armamike on June 14, 2018, 11:20:51 AM
Real Madrid up to their shenanigans again.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 14, 2018, 03:25:19 PM
Is Mo Salah fit for the first game?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 14, 2018, 03:31:38 PM
Plenty of hot Russian women in the crowd.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: DrinkingHarp on June 14, 2018, 03:35:38 PM
Plenty of hot Russian women in the crowd.

http://russian-dating.com/
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 14, 2018, 03:45:34 PM
Is Robbie Williams big in Russia? Fecking state of him.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 14, 2018, 05:56:07 PM
The conclusion so far is Saudi Arabia are shite.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 14, 2018, 06:01:07 PM
Plenty of hot Russian women in the crowd.
The Russian World cup ambassador is decent


Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on June 14, 2018, 06:01:27 PM
I see the Russians have taken their wheatabix/steroids. 5-0 against the Saudis.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 14, 2018, 06:19:30 PM
Plenty of hot Russian women in the crowd.
The Russian World cup ambassador is decent



Could do with a feed of spuds.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 14, 2018, 06:26:39 PM
The conclusion so far is Saudi Arabia are shite.
The Saudis are Sunni
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 14, 2018, 06:44:07 PM
Plenty of hot Russian women in the crowd.
The Russian World cup ambassador is decent



Could do with a feed of spuds.

Meat and 2 veg would be better  ;)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: johnnycool on June 15, 2018, 08:59:09 AM
Photoshopped tae f**k!

Before shot;

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2018, 02:13:29 PM
Uruguay huffing and puffing here! Saurze hasn’t had a kick
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Geoff Tipps on June 15, 2018, 02:18:02 PM
Uruguay huffing and puffing here! Saurze hasn’t had a kick

He should have had a couple. What game are you watching??
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2018, 02:33:35 PM
He’s been rubbish, a younger in form Suarez would have scored, but Uruguay have been awful
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 15, 2018, 02:40:05 PM
He’s been rubbish, a younger in form Suarez would have scored, but Uruguay have been awful

Anyone here been watching Barca got the last two seasons? Suarez is a donkey for about 80% of every game and then might score two absolute screamers.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: oakleaflad on June 15, 2018, 02:58:19 PM
Uruguay got over the line having been very poor for 80 minutes. Suarez didn't look very sharp. No sign of Mo Salah.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 15, 2018, 03:02:45 PM
Uruguay got over the line having been very poor for 80 minutes. Suarez didn't look very sharp. No sign of Mo Salah.

Was watching golf and just switched over a couple of times to check score, is Suarez carrying a bit more timber than he used to?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 15, 2018, 03:03:50 PM
Nonsense from Pearce and Keown on commentary, saying they should have brought Salah on for ten mins. As if he wouldn't be playing if he was anything remotely close to resembling being fit
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 15, 2018, 04:41:27 PM
Jay-zis. I've a pain in me swiss listening to Brian Kerr  >:(
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: rrhf on June 15, 2018, 05:47:50 PM
Atmosphere almost vevuzela like
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 15, 2018, 05:57:50 PM
Some finish to both games today. That has to be one of the worst and most costly own goals in I’ve ever seen.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 15, 2018, 05:58:04 PM

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 15, 2018, 06:53:37 PM
“As counties go, these are bitter rivals”

Ger..
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 15, 2018, 07:09:33 PM
Ger Canning has to be the most useless commentator of all time on any tv station ever.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: LooseCannon on June 15, 2018, 07:12:03 PM
Ger Canning has to be the most useless commentator of all time on any tv station ever.
Nah, Martin Carney and Tommy Carr are worse, albeit they’re co-commentators.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 15, 2018, 07:19:46 PM
Ger Canning has to be the most useless commentator of all time on any tv station ever.

I'll be avoiding RTE then.

At least he'll not be commentating on GAA matches then.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2018, 07:26:48 PM
My thinking for costa goal... He clocked him - he is a dirty fecker i dunno how they allow that. Then i realise... Ah it's pepe. Fair enough.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 15, 2018, 07:27:00 PM
This match is really getting the WC rolling. Pure theatre.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: LooseCannon on June 15, 2018, 07:31:01 PM
This match is really getting the WC rolling. Pure theatre.
I’m hoping for 2-2
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: LooseCannon on June 15, 2018, 07:44:40 PM
😮
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 15, 2018, 07:48:08 PM
Concussed
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 15, 2018, 07:48:42 PM
Ronnie might double his WC total from the last three in one game..
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on June 15, 2018, 07:49:01 PM
David De Karius
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 15, 2018, 07:50:09 PM
My thinking for costa goal... He clocked him - he is a dirty fecker i dunno how they allow that. Then i realise... Ah it's pepe. Fair enough.
Ha exactly what I thought.!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 15, 2018, 07:52:00 PM
Maybe BennyCake was right about De Gea after all...
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 15, 2018, 07:53:24 PM
I thought Benny would be 1st on  ;D

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 15, 2018, 07:56:06 PM
I thought Benny would be 1st on  ;D

So did I haha.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on June 15, 2018, 08:15:16 PM
No coincidence Ramos is also on the pitch!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: armaghniac on June 15, 2018, 08:17:14 PM
Serious third goal, worthy of a world cup.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 15, 2018, 08:27:47 PM
Does Nani not make the Portugal squad these days he's gotta be a couple of years younger than Ronnie?


Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on June 15, 2018, 08:30:57 PM
He was named in provisional squad but didn't make final cut
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 15, 2018, 08:44:51 PM
some f**king goal
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 15, 2018, 08:45:27 PM
thats the best world cup game since Brazil v italy 1982
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 15, 2018, 08:46:07 PM
Gees that p***k is good.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 15, 2018, 08:46:35 PM
One trick pony a wise man once said...
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 15, 2018, 08:46:52 PM
Not a bad start to the World cup for Ronaldo.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: heganboy on June 15, 2018, 08:46:55 PM
He knew what he was doing from he set that ball down. Masterful
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 15, 2018, 08:48:14 PM
A wise man on rte said he be found out in time lol
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 15, 2018, 08:50:38 PM
This guy. Over to Messi go try to follow that.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 15, 2018, 08:54:37 PM
Good match enjoyed that just a pity Ger Canning is so awful on the mic.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 15, 2018, 08:55:13 PM
Can't understand why teams have a wall at free kicks.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on June 15, 2018, 08:58:42 PM
Good match enjoyed that just a pity Ger Canning is so awful on the mic.

Yes, soccer commentary is all about the silences. You don't have to ramble on and on.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 15, 2018, 09:03:47 PM
He knew what he was doing from he set that ball down. Masterful

Yeah trying to score.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 15, 2018, 09:05:36 PM
Can't understand why teams have a wall at free kicks.

Villa done it one time v Utd. Beckham stuck it in top corner.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 15, 2018, 09:06:10 PM
Good match enjoyed that just a pity Ger Canning is so awful on the mic.

Yes, soccer commentary is all about the silences. You don't have to ramble on and on.

Yis all know it's on other channels too??
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 15, 2018, 09:08:43 PM
Good match enjoyed that just a pity Ger Canning is so awful on the mic.

Yes, soccer commentary is all about the silences. You don't have to ramble on and on.

Yis all know it's on other channels too??

I couldn't find the remote control!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on June 15, 2018, 09:24:45 PM
De gea has made the world cup for me.  brilliant stuff ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 15, 2018, 09:49:39 PM
De gea has made the world cup for me.  brilliant stuff ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

It's his third clanger in last four international games.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 15, 2018, 09:54:34 PM
De gea has made the world cup for me.  brilliant stuff ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Best in the world apparently  ::)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 15, 2018, 10:15:09 PM
Spain looked like real live contenders in fairness, if they get rid of the dodge in goals obviously..
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 15, 2018, 10:50:02 PM
De gea has made the world cup for me.  brilliant stuff ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

It's his third clanger in last four international games.
He needs to stop bumping into Ramos = concussion every time.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 15, 2018, 10:54:24 PM
De gea has made the world cup for me.  brilliant stuff ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

When you’re up against the best it’s difficult to concentrate!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on June 15, 2018, 11:17:11 PM
A wise man on rte said he be found out in time lol


"....only a cod..."
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dire Ear on June 15, 2018, 11:36:46 PM
Spain will still be there or thereabouts
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 15, 2018, 11:44:21 PM
Spain will still be there or thereabouts

Yeah, Ronaldo (rightly) taking the plaudits has distracted a lot of people from the fact that Portugal didn't actually win and were comprehensively outplayed for large portions of the match. Costa looks in great shape.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: macdanger2 on June 15, 2018, 11:59:03 PM
Does Nani not make the Portugal squad these days he's gotta be a couple of years younger than Ronnie?

How is Quaresma still there? Seems like he's been around for yonks
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 12:05:33 AM
Spain will still be there or thereabouts

Yeah, Ronaldo (rightly) taking the plaudits has distracted a lot of people from the fact that Portugal didn't actually win and were comprehensively outplayed for large portions of the match. Costa looks in great shape.

Both Spain and a Portugal to hammer the rest in their group, with 3 goals Ronaldo is still a good price at 5/2 for top scorer! Generally 6/7 goals wins it
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 16, 2018, 06:51:43 AM
Funny, I get the plaudits but Ronaldo was poor in open play, scored a pen, a fluke and a peach of a free kick. Spain were the better side and definitely have more balance to them. That strike  :o

The World Cup, although played by professional athletes is probably the most amateur of all sporting  competitions.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 16, 2018, 07:32:17 AM
Without having to think too hard did he not create the penalty, and did he not also,very unselfishly, hand a certain goal on a plate to a team mate, who missed it? I don't particularly like him, but to try and pick holes in his performance last night is pure nonsense in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: lenny on June 16, 2018, 07:49:49 AM
Funny, I get the plaudits but Ronaldo was poor in open play, scored a pen, a fluke and a peach of a free kick. Spain were the better side and definitely have more balance to them. That strike  :o

The World Cup, although played by professional athletes is probably the most amateur of all sporting  competitions.

lol, he also won the penalty and the free kick that he scored. Maybe you missed that.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 16, 2018, 07:58:20 AM
Without having to think too hard did he not create the penalty, and did he not also,very unselfishly, hand a certain goal on a plate to a team mate, who missed it? I don't particularly like him, but to try and pick holes in his performance last night is pure nonsense in my opinion.

How is it nonsense? In the buildup to Spain's third, he was involved in giving the ball away and literally stopped playing because he was huffing even though three Spanish lads were passing it around him very closely.

He was absolutely Portugal's saviour but that doesn't mean everything he did on the pitch was perfect.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2018, 08:59:51 AM
Funny, I get the plaudits but Ronaldo was poor in open play, scored a pen, a fluke and a peach of a free kick. Spain were the better side and definitely have more balance to them. That strike  :o

The World Cup, although played by professional athletes is probably the most amateur of all sporting  competitions.

lol, he also won the penalty and the free kick that he scored. Maybe you missed that.

He made a very unselfish pass in the first half when through which should have been a goal too. Great pass and to be honest i was a bit shocked to see it.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 16, 2018, 09:09:22 AM
Without having to think too hard did he not create the penalty, and did he not also,very unselfishly, hand a certain goal on a plate to a team mate, who missed it? I don't particularly like him, but to try and pick holes in his performance last night is pure nonsense in my opinion.

How is it nonsense? In the buildup to Spain's third, he was involved in giving the ball away and literally stopped playing because he was huffing even though three Spanish lads were passing it around him very closely.

He was absolutely Portugal's saviour but that doesn't mean everything he did on the pitch was perfect.

If he's arguing the point that Ronaldo was poor in open play it is nonsense cause he just wasn't..  :)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 16, 2018, 09:41:17 AM
Without having to think too hard did he not create the penalty, and did he not also,very unselfishly, hand a certain goal on a plate to a team mate, who missed it? I don't particularly like him, but to try and pick holes in his performance last night is pure nonsense in my opinion.

How is it nonsense? In the buildup to Spain's third, he was involved in giving the ball away and literally stopped playing because he was huffing even though three Spanish lads were passing it around him very closely. 

He was absolutely Portugal's saviour but that doesn't mean everything he did on the pitch was perfect.
I didn't say everything he did on the pitch was perfect, did I? I said the comment that he was poor in open play was nonsense.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 16, 2018, 09:42:42 AM
Without having to think too hard did he not create the penalty, and did he not also,very unselfishly, hand a certain goal on a plate to a team mate, who missed it? I don't particularly like him, but to try and pick holes in his performance last night is pure nonsense in my opinion.

How is it nonsense? In the buildup to Spain's third, he was involved in giving the ball away and literally stopped playing because he was huffing even though three Spanish lads were passing it around him very closely.

He was absolutely Portugal's saviour but that doesn't mean everything he did on the pitch was perfect.

If he's arguing the point that Ronaldo was poor in open play it is nonsense cause he just wasn't..  :)

He was shit off the ball but people see what they are told to see.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 16, 2018, 09:44:45 AM
Give some examples
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 09:48:22 AM
Most forwards are shit off the ball! they are paid to score goals! Scoring 3 against Spain who in most parts dominated the game is some going for an aging hasbeen....

The problem is Ronaldo is like marmite..
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 16, 2018, 10:16:37 AM
Give some examples

The time he huffed and just refused to play even though the ball was two yards from him, ultimately leasing to the Nacho goal...
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Gold on June 16, 2018, 10:22:32 AM
IMO...dived for the pen. Like if we are all honest he threw himself over the leg, he wasnt kicked to the floor
Was lucky for 2nd goal
Stropped
Dived for the free kick....like actually was not even touched yet no one has said a word about it on TV or elsewhere
His free kick was unbelievable

I saw him v Las Palmas in November.  Real won 3 nil but he didn't score. He tried to shoot from everywhere, stropped about and at final whistle ran off 1st...raging. Ramos on tv after said you cant speak to him if he doesn't score...its all about him

Huge ego and hence he is like marmite
A tool for me but his last goal was unreal under that pressure. He absolutely bought the pen and free kick imo...that is a skill in itself

Spain were unbelievably good at times. That carousel passing was a joy. Like Matadors at times
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 16, 2018, 10:30:59 AM
Isco best player on pitch.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 16, 2018, 10:44:30 AM
Give some examples

The time he huffed and just refused to play even though the ball was two yards from him, ultimately leasing to the Nacho goal...
You already gave that example. Are there any others you have that demonstrate that the suggestion that 'he was poor from open play' isn't nonsense
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 16, 2018, 10:47:17 AM
What a crowd of try hard cnuts  ;D

Nobody's asking you to worship at the altar of Ronaldo just acknowledge that he played reasonably well last night.. in open play Isco, Silva were the best on the pitch but Ronaldo was easily Portugal's best player especially in the 1st half. Also Spain are a significantly better team than Portugal, who are below England in the betting ffs, so of course they were better.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 16, 2018, 11:11:14 AM
What a goal.


 (http://s954.photobucket.com/user/laoislad1978/media/DfwWh-wUEAAieZY.gif.html) :)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 11:18:21 AM
Portugal might be worth a punt. They are not the best squad . They weren't at the Euros either. And they won. It is a tournament rather than a league.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/world-cup-2018/2018/0615/970888-hat-trick-hero-ronaldo-looking-to-the-next-match/

We have to look to the next match now because our goal is to win," Ronaldo said.

"We have to take it match by match and move on through the group stage.

"We are not the favourites but we will do our best and try to beat Morocco on Wednesday.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on June 16, 2018, 12:01:08 PM
What a crowd of try hard cnuts  ;D

Nobody's asking you to worship at the altar of Ronaldo just acknowledge that he played reasonably well last night.. in open play Isco, Silva were the best on the pitch but Ronaldo was easily Portugal's best player especially in the 1st half. Also Spain are a significantly better team than Portugal, who are below England in the betting ffs, so of course they were better.

Surprised we haven't heard Salah's name yet and suggestions he is as good as Ronaldo. lol
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2018, 12:08:34 PM
France looking their usual enigmatic selves here.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2018, 12:12:56 PM
That decision is bullshit.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2018, 12:23:20 PM
Why was it so delayed? Did the linesman flag?

Glad oz equalised. That boy who scored it (jeznik is it?) is a tough nut.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 12:24:54 PM
Liverpool’s new signing looks like coming on
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 16, 2018, 12:26:15 PM
Why was it so delayed? Did the linesman flag?

Glad oz equalised. That boy who scored it (jeznik is it?) is a tough nut.
I'm guessing he was waiting for the ball to go out of play.
That's why I'm wondering what would have happened if the Aussies scored. Would the goal be given and then he would have looked at VAR and given a peno?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: smort on June 16, 2018, 12:27:43 PM
Was a penalty for me. Aussie guy got the faintest of touches which didn't actually knock the ball away from griezman who would still have gone on to get a shot away. The Aussie player then catches him from behind, it's a penalty
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2018, 12:30:05 PM
Why was it so delayed? Did the linesman flag?

Glad oz equalised. That boy who scored it (jeznik is it?) is a tough nut.
I'm guessing he was waiting for the ball to go out of play.
That's why I'm wondering what would have happened if the Aussies scored. Would the goal be given and then he would have looked at VAR and given a peno?

No idea what would have happened but I bet that scenario will happen some day.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 12:35:35 PM
The Aussies give you work rate! Fair fecks to them should the hold out or win! France are typically slow starters
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 16, 2018, 12:44:38 PM
There have been some great own goals already lol bullet headers yesterday delicate lobs today
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 01:03:19 PM
There have been some great own goals already lol bullet headers yesterday delicate lobs today

Amazing how he played the ball off the defender to score the goal! Quality
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 16, 2018, 01:13:18 PM
Pogba the second United player to score following on from De Gea's goal last night.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 01:20:39 PM
Pogba the second United player to score following on from De Gea's goal last night.

In fairness to De Gea he was hit by a fly just beforehand... concussion reports coming in from Spain’s doctors  :D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: ballinaman on June 16, 2018, 01:22:50 PM
Pogba the second United player to score following on from De Gea's goal last night.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 16, 2018, 01:42:06 PM
I see RTE have one of the Après Match fellas impersonating Keith Andrews for this game.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 02:26:18 PM
As good as the Argies are going forward they are suspect at the back!!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 02:34:07 PM
Bit of a rough tackle by the ref there.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 16, 2018, 02:46:17 PM
I have to say I've yet to be won over by VAR. .
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 02:51:04 PM
I have to say I've yet to be won over by VAR. .

Don’t get this skepticism that’s in vogue about the VAR. It works in every other field sport, and it will only take one instance where the wrong call on the field being overturned to fully justify its use.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 02:58:35 PM
Three Utd men doing punditry on ITV! Bit biased
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 16, 2018, 03:08:35 PM
VAR has been fine they just need a tmo instead of the ref running to a TV in the tunnel to speed it up. The Europeans doing well as always so far, even Iceland causing probs for the Argies. Can't wait for FIFA to expand the world cup to 64 teams and reward UEFA with about 10 spots. Silly me thinking UEFA had all the power what we need is obviously more teams of Saudi Arabias quality.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: armaghniac on June 16, 2018, 03:20:22 PM
Iceland are the Fermanagh of FIFA.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 16, 2018, 03:23:30 PM
Poster boy misses penalty ha ha. Come on iceland
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 03:25:55 PM
At the minute CR7 has upstaged Messi
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 16, 2018, 03:27:27 PM
At the minute CR7 has upstaged Messi

Which matters a lot to him no doubt.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on June 16, 2018, 03:29:23 PM
Messi doesn't look fit. As a matter of fact he looks ill.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 03:38:29 PM
Messi doesn't look fit. As a matter of fact he looks ill.

Very lazy
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: J70 on June 16, 2018, 03:45:37 PM
I don't know... in the last ten minutes now and he's trying to do everything on his own. It's all Messi going across the edge of the box trying to work the shot. In fairness, he's coming close, but Iceland just have to pack up the middle of the box.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 16, 2018, 03:54:53 PM
Deserved point for Iceland.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 16, 2018, 03:55:55 PM
Well done Iceland hard work brings success. Messi will need to step up if Argentina are to make an impact in this World cup.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 16, 2018, 03:56:14 PM
VAR has been fine they just need a tmo instead of the ref running to a TV in the tunnel to speed it up. The Europeans doing well as always so far, even Iceland causing probs for the Argies. Can't wait for FIFA to expand the world cup to 64 teams and reward UEFA with about 10 spots. Silly me thinking UEFA had all the power what we need is obviously more teams of Saudi Arabias quality.

2026 World Cup increases number of teams by 50%. European teams only go from 13 to 16. It will be very hard for the likes of Saudi to fail to qualify. There should be a coefficient system based on actual results, like in the Champions League.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 03:56:41 PM
Doesn’t bode well for the quaility of the SA teams when two of the big three laboured so heavily against a Salah-less Eygpt and Iceland.

There needs to be more European sides in the expanded WC.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 16, 2018, 03:57:45 PM
Doesn’t bode well for the quaility of the SA teams when two of the big three laboured so heavily against a Salah-less Eygpt and Iceland.

There needs to be more European sides in the expanded WC.

Snap. It's a joke. 2026 group stages will be a borefest.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 16, 2018, 04:17:46 PM
Half the teams should be from Europe and even then that is low compared to the rankings but as stated only 16 out of 42 will be from UEFA in 2026. The euros is a far superior tournament even when it has been expanded ( which it shouldnt have). World qualifying is the simple answer to get the best teams.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 04:22:11 PM
Half the teams should be from Europe and even then that is low compared to the rankings but as stated only 16 out of 42 will be from UEFA in 2026. The euros is a far superior tournament even when it has been expanded ( which it shouldnt have). World qualifying is the simple answer to get the best teams.

They were totally right to expand the Euros. They could still add more and the quaility of it would be higher than the current WC.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 16, 2018, 04:30:32 PM
Half the teams should be from Europe and even then that is low compared to the rankings but as stated only 16 out of 42 will be from UEFA in 2026. The euros is a far superior tournament even when it has been expanded ( which it shouldnt have). World qualifying is the simple answer to get the best teams.

16 out of 48. Worse again!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on June 16, 2018, 04:44:38 PM
Dybala didn't get on for Argentina and Higuain only got 10 minutes or so. I would have started both including Messi and Aguero.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 16, 2018, 04:57:12 PM
Remember Argentina just about qualified! So no real surprise
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 16, 2018, 04:59:09 PM
Peru's jersey is class.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 05:07:15 PM
Doesn’t bode well for the quaility of the SA teams when two of the big three laboured so heavily against a Salah-less Eygpt and Iceland.

There needs to be more European sides in the expanded WC.
It is easy to put an excessive weight on the first round. Spain lost to Switzerland in 2010 in the first round.

It was a bit like Ros beating Galway in 2001. ;)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 16, 2018, 05:09:44 PM
Half the teams should be from Europe and even then that is low compared to the rankings but as stated only 16 out of 42 will be from UEFA in 2026. The euros is a far superior tournament even when it has been expanded ( which it shouldnt have). World qualifying is the simple answer to get the best teams.

16 out of 48. Worse again!

Ha jeez disaster. Like i say 24 should be to europe then and thats not to make it easier for Ireland i just want to see the best teams and not a lot of crap.
Peru playing well so far
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 16, 2018, 05:11:03 PM
Ok game but may have to go back to the rugby and watch the fights
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on June 16, 2018, 05:13:51 PM
Peru's jersey is class.

It's class alright! That's the style of Jersey they always wear. Except when they played Argentina in 1978!

There was a reason they did not play in their Jersey that time!


Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: weareros on June 16, 2018, 05:20:13 PM
I assume you mean because their government ordered them to lose by more than 4.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 05:32:16 PM
I think both the Euros and the World Cup sacrificed quality/integrity for money in their recent expansions. There are not 24 decent teams in Europe at any one time and there are a lot of crap teams at this tournament. 
Expanding the Euros let the BIG in twice during their ongoing decades long crisis and they really shouldn't have been allowed play.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on June 16, 2018, 05:37:03 PM
I assume you mean because their government ordered them to lose by more than 4.

There must have been some really pissed off Brazilians after that world Cup. Knocked out of a competition on goal difference in the semi-final groups! Gas thing in those days was the final group games were at different times.

Remember Austria/Germany doing the dirt in 1982 to stop Algeria getting out of the group!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 05:45:19 PM
Ref was giving nothing to Peru and thanks to the VAR they’ve got a penalty..

What a miss.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 16, 2018, 06:19:05 PM
Peru seem determined to try to lose the match
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on June 16, 2018, 06:35:26 PM
Peru seem determined to try to lose the match

They are wearing the wrong Jerseys for that!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 16, 2018, 07:01:32 PM
Never heard a commentary and punditry team focus so much on the emotional state of a lad who missed a penalty as on the BBC. He's a professional footballer, get over it.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 08:25:29 PM
Croatia are playing Nigeria in Kaliningrad. Until 1945 it was a German city, in Prussia, called Königsberg. Nobody talks about Prussia any more.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 16, 2018, 09:30:10 PM
Good decision that far too much wrestling around in the penalty box these days
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2018, 09:35:33 PM
1 arm they get away with but that was both wrapped round him.

Nigeria very poor.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 16, 2018, 09:36:07 PM
Croatia are playing Nigeria in Kaliningrad. Until 1945 it was a German city, in Prussia, called Königsberg. Nobody talks about Prussia any more.



Very true and no one talks about the massacres of 30 million Germans.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2018, 09:46:31 PM
Also moses is very fond of going to ground.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 09:48:47 PM
Croatia are playing Nigeria in Kaliningrad. Until 1945 it was a German city, in Prussia, called Königsberg. Nobody talks about Prussia any more.

I’m sure you can find some way to blame capitalism for it all if you try hard enough.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 16, 2018, 09:53:31 PM
Croatia are playing Nigeria in Kaliningrad. Until 1945 it was a German city, in Prussia, called Königsberg. Nobody talks about Prussia any more.



Very true and no one talks about the massacres of 30 million Germans.

Oh this should be very good.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 16, 2018, 09:57:38 PM
Croatia are playing Nigeria in Kaliningrad. Until 1945 it was a German city, in Prussia, called Königsberg. Nobody talks about Prussia any more.

And nobody talks about Bulgaria on the news anymore.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 16, 2018, 09:58:44 PM
Croatia are playing Nigeria in Kaliningrad. Until 1945 it was a German city, in Prussia, called Königsberg. Nobody talks about Prussia any more.



Very true and no one talks about the massacres of 30 million Germans.
I bet you were up for Croatia there - especially with their history and all...



Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 10:07:28 PM
Croatia are playing Nigeria in Kaliningrad. Until 1945 it was a German city, in Prussia, called Königsberg. Nobody talks about Prussia any more.

And nobody talks about Bulgaria on the news anymore.
Any time the Wombles come up they do 
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 16, 2018, 10:17:16 PM
One of the centres for group matches is Volgograd.  It was known in Ww2 as Stalingrad, where the Nazis ran into a wall.

The Soviets won the war but the cost was unbearable.

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2015/10/12/svetlana-alexievich-truth-many-voices/

"She also very quickly explained that the fault lay not with one man but with the experiences of Soviet generations, now reworked for new wars. When she listed the fake descriptions of events in Ukraine in the Russian media, she spoke of Russian society as a “collective Putin.” As she put it, “Putin placed his bet on the basest instincts and won. Even if he disappeared tomorrow, we would remain as we are.”
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 16, 2018, 10:38:39 PM
Croatia are playing Nigeria in Kaliningrad. Until 1945 it was a German city, in Prussia, called Königsberg. Nobody talks about Prussia any more.

And nobody talks about Bulgaria on the news anymore.
Any time the Wombles come up they do
Nicely done
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 10:41:40 PM
One of the centres for group matches is Volgograd.  It was known in Ww2 as Stalingrad, where the Nazis ran into a wall.

The Soviets won the war but the cost was unbearable.

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2015/10/12/svetlana-alexievich-truth-many-voices/

"She also very quickly explained that the fault lay not with one man but with the experiences of Soviet generations, now reworked for new wars. When she listed the fake descriptions of events in Ukraine in the Russian media, she spoke of Russian society as a “collective Putin.” As she put it, “Putin placed his bet on the basest instincts and won. Even if he disappeared tomorrow, we would remain as we are.”

Did you know Russia used to be a communist country, Sea?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 16, 2018, 10:43:26 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 16, 2018, 10:47:20 PM
A little uncouth but I agree with you I'm glad the European Coutries are doing well.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 16, 2018, 10:50:27 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.

What he said.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 16, 2018, 10:51:20 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 10:53:04 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.

This is a very wee six mindset to have.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mouview on June 16, 2018, 10:56:38 PM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 16, 2018, 10:58:32 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.

This is a very wee six mindset to have.
Gives me an interest. Otherwise, a team from far away are playing a team from far away. This match is being played far away.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 16, 2018, 11:01:07 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.

This is a very wee six mindset to have.
Gives me an interest. Otherwise, a team from far away are playing a team from far away. This match is being played far away.

I like watching good football. Apart from England losing I have no skin in the game.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 16, 2018, 11:04:53 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.

This is a very wee six mindset to have.
Gives me an interest. Otherwise, a team from far away are playing a team from far away. This match is being played far away.

I like watching good football. Apart from England losing I have no skin in the game.
(Faux-)Emotional involvement isn’t as bad as it sounds. It’s actually very enjoyable IMO.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 17, 2018, 12:42:24 AM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 17, 2018, 12:53:47 AM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.

It’s more than a bit rich for an Irishman to be complaining about this stuff.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 17, 2018, 01:00:12 AM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.

It’s more than a bit rich for an Irishman to be complaining about this stuff.
How so?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 17, 2018, 03:27:38 AM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.
Not often I agree with you, but you're on the mark with this one
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 17, 2018, 03:29:29 AM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.
I know you're on the wind up, but where did you stand on DenmarkV Peru and why?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on June 17, 2018, 03:57:36 AM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.

Can't understand the idea that they didn't deserve the point.  They executed their game plan almost perfectly and denied Argentina the space to cause much damage.  An exceptionally well organized defense, and decent enough on the break.  Well worth their point, and I hope not to have to watch them again.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on June 17, 2018, 05:51:07 AM
What exactly are they supposed to do? I just read their right back makes salt for a living for f**ks sake!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 17, 2018, 09:45:23 AM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.
I know you're on the wind up, but where did you stand on DenmarkV Peru and why?
Peru obviously. Danish bastids raped and pillaged their way through Ireland.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 17, 2018, 09:56:40 AM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.

Can't understand the idea that they didn't deserve the point.  They executed their game plan almost perfectly and denied Argentina the space to cause much damage.  An exceptionally well organized defense, and decent enough on the break.  Well worth their point, and I hope not to have to watch them again.

They gave away two clear penalties, one called and one ignored. Hard to say they deserved the result in that context.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Orchard park on June 17, 2018, 11:17:25 AM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.
Not often I agree with you, but you're on the mark with this one


Kinda like RoI under Jackie's army
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 17, 2018, 11:49:03 AM
Kerr is on commentary for Costa Rica and Serbia today, should make it worth watching.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Farrandeelin on June 17, 2018, 11:53:23 AM
Croatia are playing Nigeria in Kaliningrad. Until 1945 it was a German city, in Prussia, called Königsberg. Nobody talks about Prussia any more.

Bismarck must be turning in his grave.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 17, 2018, 12:22:00 PM
Croatia are playing Nigeria in Kaliningrad. Until 1945 it was a German city, in Prussia, called Königsberg. Nobody talks about Prussia any more.

Yeah but that stadium is sinking apparently. Won't be in use long.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Targetman on June 17, 2018, 12:48:43 PM
Peter Collins is a ringer for Nigel Farage!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 17, 2018, 01:08:07 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.
I know you're on the wind up, but where did you stand on DenmarkV Peru and why?
Peru obviously. Danish bastids raped and pillaged their way through Ireland.
Excellent response. There's no arguing with that one
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 17, 2018, 01:50:15 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.
I know you're on the wind up, but where did you stand on DenmarkV Peru and why?
Peru obviously. Danish bastids raped and pillaged their way through Ireland.

Is this the Viking raids around 900AD or Eriksen and Co at Landsdowne Road last autumn?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on June 17, 2018, 03:22:48 PM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.

Can't understand the idea that they didn't deserve the point.  They executed their game plan almost perfectly and denied Argentina the space to cause much damage.  An exceptionally well organized defense, and decent enough on the break.  Well worth their point, and I hope not to have to watch them again.

They gave away two clear penalties, one called and one ignored. Hard to say they deserved the result in that context.
And the keeper saved the one that was called. That's part of deserving it.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 17, 2018, 03:24:22 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.
I know you're on the wind up, but where did you stand on DenmarkV Peru and why?
Peru obviously. Danish bastids raped and pillaged their way through Ireland.
Excellent response. There's no arguing with that one
I know.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 17, 2018, 03:25:19 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.
I know you're on the wind up, but where did you stand on DenmarkV Peru and why?
Peru obviously. Danish bastids raped and pillaged their way through Ireland.

Is this the Viking raids around 900AD or Eriksen and Co at Landsdowne Road last autumn?
Obviously the Viking raids. As if the latter is really important.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 17, 2018, 04:22:18 PM
Good game this. End to end stuff so far. Mexico giving it a good go against the Germans.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 17, 2018, 04:24:58 PM
How about ye take yer shite to another thread and leave this one for the football.
One of the best things about the World Cup is supporting one team over the other in every fixture due to your perception of each country’s historical deeds & alignments.
I know you're on the wind up, but where did you stand on DenmarkV Peru and why?
Peru obviously. Danish bastids raped and pillaged their way through Ireland.

Is this the Viking raids around 900AD or Eriksen and Co at Landsdowne Road last autumn?
Obviously the Viking raids. As if the latter is really important.

It is to some people.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 17, 2018, 04:46:24 PM
Excellent first half. Mexico fully deserve their lead also.
Can't see them keeping that sort of pace up for the full game though.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on June 17, 2018, 04:50:45 PM
Excellent first half. Mexico fully deserve their lead also.
Can't see them keeping that sort of pace up for the full game though.
mexico should be at least 2 up. Germany all over the place at times.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2018, 04:55:03 PM
Haven’t seen much from the Germans to suggest they will win the match! Would need to improve by a good margin
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Main Street on June 17, 2018, 06:40:35 PM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.
Not often I agree with you, but you're on the mark with this one
The 3 stoogies! The penny has dropped that Argentina, world cup finalist last time,  have  infinitly better players than Iceland? you guys deserve a certificate of punditry ::)  Fortunately the Iceland coach was of the same opinion

 Now football should only be played a certain way for the entertainment values of the 3 sofa stoogies who it appears know fck all about intl football, fck all about tactics and the value of the unbreakable united team ethic.
Iceland topped  their WC qual group by playing better football than and at the same time beating Croatia, Ukriane and Turkey. According to you morons they should now just fook off then?  ;D
 Too many times Iceland tried to play the ball out of defence on the ground in the 2nd half, stringing 5 or 6 passes before being dissposed by the likes of Messi et al, class players who have totally dominated much better players/teams than Iceland. The siege in the 2nd half  at times was not much different than Barca making Man u look like a pub team at the Wembley CL final or making Arsenal look bedraggled  everytime they met, or Barca trying to break though a Chelsea parked bus.  I suppose by the stoogie criteria of the beautiful game, all those teams should have fooked off the stage?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on June 17, 2018, 06:56:37 PM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.
Not often I agree with you, but you're on the mark with this one
The 3 stoogies! The penny has dropped that Argentina, world cup finalist last time,  have  infinitly better players than Iceland? you guys deserve a certificate of punditry ::)  Fortunately the Iceland coach was of the same opinion

 Now football should only be played a certain way for the entertainment values of the 3 sofa stoogies who it appears know fck all about intl football, fck all about tactics and the value of the unbreakable united team ethic.
Iceland topped  their WC qual group by playing better football than and at the same time beating Croatia, Ukriane and Turkey. According to you morons they should now just fook off then?  ;D
 Too many times Iceland tried to play the ball out of defence on the ground in the 2nd half, stringing 5 or 6 passes before being dissposed by the likes of Messi et al, class players who have totally dominated much better players/teams than Iceland. The siege in the 2nd half  at times was not much different than Barca making Man u look like a pub team at the Wembley CL final or making Arsenal look bedraggled  everytime they met, or Barca trying to break though a Chelsea parked bus.  I suppose by the stoogie criteria of the beautiful game, all those teams should have fooked off the stage?
well said.  :)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 17, 2018, 06:56:57 PM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.
Not often I agree with you, but you're on the mark with this one
The 3 stoogies! The penny has dropped that Argentina, world cup finalist last time,  have  infinitly better players than Iceland? you guys deserve a certificate of punditry ::)  Fortunately the Iceland coach was of the same opinion

 Now football should only be played a certain way for the entertainment values of the 3 sofa stoogies who it appears know fck all about intl football, fck all about tactics and the value of the unbreakable united team ethic.
Iceland topped  their WC qual group by playing better football than and at the same time beating Croatia, Ukriane and Turkey. According to you morons they should now just fook off then?  ;D
 Too many times Iceland tried to play the ball out of defence on the ground in the 2nd half, stringing 5 or 6 passes before being dissposed by the likes of Messi et al, class players who have totally dominated much better players/teams than Iceland. The siege in the 2nd half  at times was not much different than Barca making Man u look like a pub team at the Wembley CL final or making Arsenal look bedraggled  everytime they met, or Barca trying to break though a Chelsea parked bus.  I suppose by the stoogie criteria of the beautiful game, all those teams should have fooked off the stage?
You've completely missed the point, haven't you?

I don't expect Iceland to play any other way than the way they do. That's the only way for them to get results.

The point is, it's utterly septic to watch, just as Norway were in the 1990s, and it would be a disaster for the tournament were they to go through ahead of Argentina.

Something similar goes for the Swiss, who are consistently the most boring team to watch at major finals. Hopefully Brazil destroy them.








Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2018, 07:17:12 PM
Don’t watch it. Simples
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 17, 2018, 07:19:40 PM
What a strike!!!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 17, 2018, 08:09:27 PM
Unmared header. Tsk Tsk Brazil
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 17, 2018, 08:30:42 PM
Clear shove in the back. Lee Dixon making a twat of himself saying "it's not a shove" and then "it was a little shove".

The two of them sounded awfully embarrassed when they announced that Clattenburg had said it shouldn't have stood.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 17, 2018, 08:51:45 PM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.
Not often I agree with you, but you're on the mark with this one
The 3 stoogies! The penny has dropped that Argentina, world cup finalist last time,  have  infinitly better players than Iceland? you guys deserve a certificate of punditry ::)  Fortunately the Iceland coach was of the same opinion

 Now football should only be played a certain way for the entertainment values of the 3 sofa stoogies who it appears know fck all about intl football, fck all about tactics and the value of the unbreakable united team ethic.
Iceland topped  their WC qual group by playing better football than and at the same time beating Croatia, Ukriane and Turkey. According to you morons they should now just fook off then?  ;D
 Too many times Iceland tried to play the ball out of defence on the ground in the 2nd half, stringing 5 or 6 passes before being dissposed by the likes of Messi et al, class players who have totally dominated much better players/teams than Iceland. The siege in the 2nd half  at times was not much different than Barca making Man u look like a pub team at the Wembley CL final or making Arsenal look bedraggled  everytime they met, or Barca trying to break though a Chelsea parked bus.  I suppose by the stoogie criteria of the beautiful game, all those teams should have fooked off the stage?
Is there any need to be so aggressive and insulting? 
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: under the bar on June 17, 2018, 08:58:43 PM
When you think of all the world class forwards who have led the line for Brazil at the World Cups and have become legends.  Doubtful if Firmino will be considered in the same light in years to come. ;)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on June 17, 2018, 11:14:21 PM
When you think of all the world class forwards who have led the line for Brazil at the World Cups and have become legends.  Doubtful if Firmino will be considered in the same light in years to come. ;)

It was hardly his fault they didn't win he was only on for 10 minutes. Neymar did nothing in the whole 90 minutes
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Minder on June 17, 2018, 11:17:16 PM
When you think of all the world class forwards who have led the line for Brazil at the World Cups and have become legends.  Doubtful if Firmino will be considered in the same light in years to come. ;)

It was hardly his fault they didn't win he was only on for 10 minutes. Neymar did nothing in the whole 90 minutes

It’s just a bit of trying too hard trolling from a United fan
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on June 18, 2018, 12:26:17 AM
When you think of all the world class forwards who have led the line for Brazil at the World Cups and have become legends.  Doubtful if Firmino will be considered in the same light in years to come. ;)

It was hardly his fault they didn't win he was only on for 10 minutes. Neymar did nothing in the whole 90 minutes

It’s just a bit of trying too hard trolling from a United fan

The obsession level is off the chart. How do you watch that game and think, ‘I hate Liverpool so how will I try to slag them and their players off?’

Reminds me of the st gallbladder pup, whatever happened to that p***k?!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Main Street on June 18, 2018, 12:38:15 AM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.
Not often I agree with you, but you're on the mark with this one
The 3 stoogies! The penny has dropped that Argentina, world cup finalist last time,  have  infinitly better players than Iceland? you guys deserve a certificate of punditry ::)  Fortunately the Iceland coach was of the same opinion

 Now football should only be played a certain way for the entertainment values of the 3 sofa stoogies who it appears know fck all about intl football, fck all about tactics and the value of the unbreakable united team ethic.
Iceland topped  their WC qual group by playing better football than and at the same time beating Croatia, Ukriane and Turkey. According to you morons they should now just fook off then?  ;D
 Too many times Iceland tried to play the ball out of defence on the ground in the 2nd half, stringing 5 or 6 passes before being dissposed by the likes of Messi et al, class players who have totally dominated much better players/teams than Iceland. The siege in the 2nd half  at times was not much different than Barca making Man u look like a pub team at the Wembley CL final or making Arsenal look bedraggled  everytime they met, or Barca trying to break though a Chelsea parked bus.  I suppose by the stoogie criteria of the beautiful game, all those teams should have fooked off the stage?
You've completely missed the point, haven't you?

I don't expect Iceland to play any other way than the way they do. That's the only way for them to get results.

The point is, it's utterly septic to watch, just as Norway were in the 1990s, and it would be a disaster for the tournament were they to go through ahead of Argentina.

Something similar goes for the Swiss, who are consistently the most boring team to watch at major finals. Hopefully Brazil destroy them.
Sid, I have got the point spot on. You're a phony when it comes to football analysis and knowledge. Brazil didn't destroy Switzerland and haven't that football quality to do so. What you hope might happen in order to satisfy some couch potato fantasy perception of a make believe world of the beautiful football game is beyond even the management of the creator of the universe. Would you be the type of guy who noticed Iceland players swarming around Messi when he had the ball, but didn't notice when Argentina did the exact same to Gisli Sig whenever he had the ball at his feet? 
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 18, 2018, 01:02:13 AM
Can’t understand the narrative that Iceland deserved a point. They just packed the defence and hacked it out all second half. At least Argentina tried to play the right way, passed it around and created what few chances there were.
I hope Iceland get smashed in their remaining two games.

They've had their 15 minutes, it's now time for them to fook off and take their hoofball with them.

Norway were great craic when they were beating England back in 1993 but they soon became an absolute blight on international football.

Iceland are no different in that regard.
Not often I agree with you, but you're on the mark with this one
The 3 stoogies! The penny has dropped that Argentina, world cup finalist last time,  have  infinitly better players than Iceland? you guys deserve a certificate of punditry ::)  Fortunately the Iceland coach was of the same opinion

 Now football should only be played a certain way for the entertainment values of the 3 sofa stoogies who it appears know fck all about intl football, fck all about tactics and the value of the unbreakable united team ethic.
Iceland topped  their WC qual group by playing better football than and at the same time beating Croatia, Ukriane and Turkey. According to you morons they should now just fook off then?  ;D
 Too many times Iceland tried to play the ball out of defence on the ground in the 2nd half, stringing 5 or 6 passes before being dissposed by the likes of Messi et al, class players who have totally dominated much better players/teams than Iceland. The siege in the 2nd half  at times was not much different than Barca making Man u look like a pub team at the Wembley CL final or making Arsenal look bedraggled  everytime they met, or Barca trying to break though a Chelsea parked bus.  I suppose by the stoogie criteria of the beautiful game, all those teams should have fooked off the stage?
You've completely missed the point, haven't you?

I don't expect Iceland to play any other way than the way they do. That's the only way for them to get results.

The point is, it's utterly septic to watch, just as Norway were in the 1990s, and it would be a disaster for the tournament were they to go through ahead of Argentina.

Something similar goes for the Swiss, who are consistently the most boring team to watch at major finals. Hopefully Brazil destroy them.
Sid, I have got the point spot on. You're a phony when it comes to football analysis and knowledge. Brazil didn't destroy Switzerland and haven't that football quality to do so. What you hope might happen in order to satisfy some couch potato fantasy perception of a make believe world of the beautiful football game is beyond even the management of the creator of the universe. Would you be the type of guy who noticed Iceland players swarming around Messi when he had the ball, but didn't notice when Argentina did the exact same to Gisli Sig whenever he had the ball at his feet?
The only couch potato make believe artist here is yourself. You have a very active imagination, I'll give you that.

Fair play to the Swiss, they're generally dreadful to watch but at least (and unlike Iceland) they had a right go tonight and actually attacked Brazil, which made the game interesting.

Counter attacking football can be very good to watch. Hoofball, like Iceland, Ireland and Norway in the 90s play/ed, is not.

Maybe you think Manchester United's performances against Sevilla were good to watch too?








Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2018, 07:58:50 AM
When you think of all the world class forwards who have led the line for Brazil at the World Cups and have become legends.  Doubtful if Firmino will be considered in the same light in years to come. ;)

It was hardly his fault they didn't win he was only on for 10 minutes. Neymar did nothing in the whole 90 minutes

It’s just a bit of trying too hard trolling from a United fan

The obsession level is off the chart. How do you watch that game and think, ‘I hate Liverpool so how will I try to slag them and their players off?’

Reminds me of the st gallbladder pup, whatever happened to that p***k?!

Jesus lad, a lot of anger there. You need time off
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 18, 2018, 09:02:00 AM
Belgium are quite high in the FIFA rankings

https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/index.html
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 18, 2018, 10:23:40 AM
Did they find the sniper that kept shooting at naymar last night. In fairness he kept getting up and played on. That lad is as hard as nails.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on June 18, 2018, 02:26:29 PM


Jesus lad, a lot of anger there. You need time off

No anger at all lad.

Do you disagree with anything I said? Oh and what about Joe Cole, you never did reply to that?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 18, 2018, 05:02:10 PM
Absolute unit playing CH for Panama. Looks like a rugby league player rather than a soccer player.

Belgium playing a bit shite. 
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 18, 2018, 05:08:35 PM
Tidy finish that
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: J70 on June 18, 2018, 05:10:21 PM
Controlled it nicely, catching it perfectly on the laces.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 18, 2018, 05:12:03 PM
Panama will do well to finish this game with the full compliment. Physical.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 18, 2018, 05:30:37 PM
Lukaku the goal machine 2 zip.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 18, 2018, 06:11:55 PM
Lukaku the goal machine 2 zip.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/romelu-lukaku-ive-got-some-things-to-say

Just came across this. Very uplifting.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Oraisteach on June 18, 2018, 06:20:59 PM
So, I wonder how many on here are hoping for an England defeat and how many want a win. I hope they win, even though their commentators are unbearable.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 18, 2018, 06:23:50 PM
Lukaku the goal machine 2 zip.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/romelu-lukaku-ive-got-some-things-to-say

Just came across this. Very uplifting.
Read that earlier. Thought it was great to be honest. Fair play to him.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 18, 2018, 06:36:01 PM
So, I wonder how many on here are hoping for an England defeat and how many want a win. I hope they win, even though their commentators are unbearable.

I want a nice impriessive win today to get their hopes up and then a slow slide to a comprehensive defeat in the L16/QFs.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 18, 2018, 06:40:49 PM
Perhaps the greatest thing on the internet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzxpc0pyqrs
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 18, 2018, 07:24:39 PM
So, I wonder how many on here are hoping for an England defeat and how many want a win. I hope they win, even though their commentators are unbearable.
The only decent England effort I remember seeing was Bobby Robson ''s 1990 team who reached the semis.
I would like to see them doing well this time. The usual suspects are not very interesting. 
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 18, 2018, 07:25:46 PM
Panama will do well to finish this game with the full compliment. Physical.
Not physical enough. Should have laid it into thon hoors.

England missing some chances.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2018, 07:33:42 PM
Oh dear...
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 18, 2018, 07:34:28 PM
Some awful stupid defending by Walker there.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 18, 2018, 07:35:18 PM
England have managed to go through their full WC routine of hope to despair in 30 minutes this year..
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 18, 2018, 07:35:57 PM
f**k me england should be about 4-0 up. Walker is twit
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2018, 07:43:46 PM
Ali is hobbling about. Why is he still on??
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on June 18, 2018, 07:46:49 PM
Ali is hobbling about. Why is he still on??

Because it's nearly half time and they'll have 15 minutes to assess the situation.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 18, 2018, 07:48:48 PM
f**k me england should be about 4-0 up. Walker is twit
No proper left back
And that Sterling fella who just falls over his own feet
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 18, 2018, 07:51:11 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2018/jun/18/tunisia-v-england-world-cup-2018-live-updates

25 min: “I think one important difference right now is that Spurs are good,” Matthew Turner says. “Man City are good. Liverpool are good. And they all employ a chest-out, collective, attacking football. That means England are flush with players who have confidence and want to play. And there are some Manchester United players too.”
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 18, 2018, 07:55:29 PM
Lingard could have wrapped up the golden boot by half time. Lost count how many good chances he had.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on June 18, 2018, 08:02:33 PM
England looked like they could win by about 10 when they went one nil up but the fact is it is 1-1 at half time. The game still has to be won.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 18, 2018, 08:03:50 PM
Great to hear them crying over the Kane 'penalty'
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 18, 2018, 08:06:34 PM
Great to hear them crying over the Kane 'penalty'

You can hardly blame them, it was a clear foul.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on June 18, 2018, 08:12:21 PM
Great to hear them crying over the Kane 'penalty'

You can hardly blame them, it was a clear foul.
And another one. So much for VAR.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2018, 08:24:38 PM
They're fouling us in the box.

It's too warm.

They fall over too easily.

Key points from bbc commentary.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 18, 2018, 08:28:10 PM
They're fouling us in the box.

It's too warm.

They fall over too easily.

Key points from bbc commentary.

Ha noted that as well. At least sterling has gone he is absolute garbage in an england shirt
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: michaelg on June 18, 2018, 08:29:22 PM
They're fouling us in the box.

It's too warm.

They fall over too easily.

Key points from bbc commentary.
Every f**ker in this tournament falls over too easily. So many nothing fouls in every game.  Makes it shit to watch.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 18, 2018, 08:31:35 PM
Least they're not blaming midges.....yet.

England so short of invention.

"Send her victorious

Home on the next Airbus"
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 18, 2018, 08:33:15 PM
Just sorry that Uber crier Mark Lawrenson isn’t in the commentary box
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on June 18, 2018, 08:36:48 PM
They're fouling us in the box.

It's too warm.

They fall over too easily.

Key points from bbc commentary.

Ha noted that as well. At least sterling has gone he is absolute garbage in an england shirt
In fairness, the ref + VAR have ridden them. We'd be whinging too.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: michaelg on June 18, 2018, 08:37:24 PM
Just sorry that Uber crier Mark Lawrenson isn’t in the commentary box
Could have sworn he was Irish.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 18, 2018, 08:38:08 PM
Is it a bit too soon to say England won't be winning this World cup?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 18, 2018, 08:38:54 PM
Just sorry that Uber crier Mark Lawrenson isn’t in the commentary box
Could have sworn he was Irish.

Sure Keown Irish too.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 18, 2018, 08:42:41 PM
England are very much poor quality as usual, some decent players in that team and a few donkeys! Never understood what how some good players for their clubs go to shite with an England Jersey team on them!!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 18, 2018, 08:48:14 PM
England are very much poor quality as usual, some decent players in that team and a few donkeys! Never understood what how some good players for their clubs go to shite with an England Jersey team on them!!
A lot of poor to average managers unable to get the best out of their players. Who seriously thinks Gareth Southgate is good enough for this level of management?

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 18, 2018, 08:50:30 PM
How’d that dick end up giving away that corner?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 18, 2018, 08:50:50 PM
Goal for England name on trophy?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 18, 2018, 08:51:04 PM
Ah Fergie time
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: michaelg on June 18, 2018, 08:53:01 PM
How’d that dick end up giving away that corner?
They have been playing that way all night. Much prefer defenders putting the laces through it!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 18, 2018, 08:53:04 PM
Ah Fergie time

I don’t think the 92nd minute has ever been described as Fergie time before.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 18, 2018, 08:53:13 PM
Maguire to Kane. Cavan or Fermanagh to Connemara
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 18, 2018, 08:54:24 PM
England are very much poor quality as usual, some decent players in that team and a few donkeys! Never understood what how some good players for their clubs go to shite with an England Jersey team on them!!

You could see the confidence draining from some of the more decent players as the game went on. Half decent players but badly organised.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on June 18, 2018, 08:54:53 PM
Loftus Cheek made a big difference when he came on. Maguire was their best player imo. Great finish from Harry.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: thewobbler on June 18, 2018, 08:58:06 PM
England need rid of Young and Lindgard to progress.

There is genuinely no point in playing 3 Centre halves unless your wing backs provide proper width. The amount of times tonight big Maguire cane steaming out of defence with the ball, slips it to Young, who steps and goes backwards. Offers nothing. Lingard is a passenger. He doesn’t have the creative impact required to be that unwilling to get involved.

Sterling not in Rashford’s league. Not even close.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 18, 2018, 08:58:51 PM
Bandwagon up and running! I keep it on the road for 3 weeks roll up to the quarters! Start taking about going all the way, get their hopes up! I And crash out on penalties against a underdog
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 18, 2018, 09:05:23 PM
On the game reviews. Kane should had 3 penalties, he was getting assaulted in the BOX@REF must been blind!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on June 18, 2018, 09:06:49 PM
England need rid of Young and Lindgard to progress.

There is genuinely no point in playing 3 Centre halves unless your wing backs provide proper width. The amount of times tonight big Maguire cane steaming out of defence with the ball, slips it to Young, who steps and goes backwards. Offers nothing. Lingard is a passenger. He doesn’t have the creative impact required to be that unwilling to get involved.

Sterling not in Rashford’s league. Not even close.
Rashford improved things too but wtf was he doing dummying that chance?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 18, 2018, 09:10:32 PM
England need rid of Young and Lindgard to progress.

There is genuinely no point in playing 3 Centre halves unless your wing backs provide proper width. The amount of times tonight big Maguire cane steaming out of defence with the ball, slips it to Young, who steps and goes backwards. Offers nothing. Lingard is a passenger. He doesn’t have the creative impact required to be that unwilling to get involved.

Sterling not in Rashford’s league. Not even close.

The width is an easy fix though, just bring in Rose.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 18, 2018, 09:17:07 PM
England need rid of Young and Lindgard to progress.

There is genuinely no point in playing 3 Centre halves unless your wing backs provide proper width. The amount of times tonight big Maguire cane steaming out of defence with the ball, slips it to Young, who steps and goes backwards. Offers nothing. Lingard is a passenger. He doesn’t have the creative impact required to be that unwilling to get involved.

Sterling not in Rashford’s league. Not even close.
Rashford improved things too but wtf was he doing dummying that chance?

Think he got a shout as the way he reacted to Lingard (?) ballsing it up suggested he'd have preferred to take it on himself.

Agree that RLC was very good when he came on. Didn't even know he was in the squad.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on June 18, 2018, 11:39:12 PM
England did their best to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. They were dominant in the first half yet changed their approach in the second half and nearly squandereed the game. However the Tunisians were so bad at defending set pieces they handed the English victory.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on June 18, 2018, 11:48:00 PM
England did their best to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. They were dominant in the first half yet changed their approach in the second half and nearly squandereed the game. However the Tunisians were so bad at defending set pieces they handed the English victory.
I thought they looked very tired after half-time and weren't able to keep pressing the Tunisians as they had in the first half. They only got a bit of a second wind when the subs came on.

I thought the ref +VAR did their best to gift the Tunisians a draw, rather than the English throwing it away,  though the woeful finishing(Kane aside), especially from Lingard is something they won't get away with later in the Tournament.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 19, 2018, 12:19:43 AM
Second would be a great place for England to end up in this group.

There's a real chance of the draw opening up for them.

They should be able to stroll through the rest of the group without much pressure and a draw against Belgium for a second place finish would do them fine.

There's nothing particularly intimidating in Group H as regards possible last 16 ties.

Colombia would be tricky opponents but they're beatable. I'd fancy England against Poland or Senegal. If Mexico win Group F, there's a big chance England could reach a semi-final by going that route.

They have what a lot of teams in the tournament don't have - an out and out striker who is in-form.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 19, 2018, 12:22:52 AM
Second would be a great place for England to end up in this group.

There's a real chance of the draw opening up for them.

They should be able to stroll through the rest of the group without much pressure and a draw against Belgium for a second place finish would do them fine.

There's nothing particularly intimidating in Group H as regards possible last 16 ties.

Colombia would be tricky opponents but they're beatable. I'd fancy England against Poland or Senegal. If Mexico win Group F, there's a big chance England could reach a semi-final by going that route.

They have what a lot of teams in the tournament don't have - an out and out striker who is in-form.

Brazil, France, Spain, Portugal and Belgium have that too.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 19, 2018, 12:29:07 AM
Second would be a great place for England to end up in this group.

There's a real chance of the draw opening up for them.

They should be able to stroll through the rest of the group without much pressure and a draw against Belgium for a second place finish would do them fine.

There's nothing particularly intimidating in Group H as regards possible last 16 ties.

Colombia would be tricky opponents but they're beatable. I'd fancy England against Poland or Senegal. If Mexico win Group F, there's a big chance England could reach a semi-final by going that route.

They have what a lot of teams in the tournament don't have - an out and out striker who is in-form.

Brazil, France, Spain, Portugal and Belgium have that too.

Who is Brazil's in form out and out striker? Jesus is not in form and doesn't look up to it. Firmino is not currently first choice, is not an out and out striker and is at his best by doing the donkey work to create space for others.

As for Belgium's, he folds when the going gets tough.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 19, 2018, 01:14:14 AM
Second would be a great place for England to end up in this group.

There's a real chance of the draw opening up for them.

They should be able to stroll through the rest of the group without much pressure and a draw against Belgium for a second place finish would do them fine.

There's nothing particularly intimidating in Group H as regards possible last 16 ties.

Colombia would be tricky opponents but they're beatable. I'd fancy England against Poland or Senegal. If Mexico win Group F, there's a big chance England could reach a semi-final by going that route.

They have what a lot of teams in the tournament don't have - an out and out striker who is in-form.

Brazil, France, Spain, Portugal and Belgium have that too.

Who is Brazil's in form out and out striker? Jesus is not in form and doesn't look up to it. Firmino is not currently first choice, is not an out and out striker and is at his best by doing the donkey work to create space for others.

As for Belgium's, he folds when the going gets tough.

Has Harry Kane even won any trophies?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 19, 2018, 07:02:47 AM
Second would be a great place for England to end up in this group.

There's a real chance of the draw opening up for them.

They should be able to stroll through the rest of the group without much pressure and a draw against Belgium for a second place finish would do them fine.

There's nothing particularly intimidating in Group H as regards possible last 16 ties.

Colombia would be tricky opponents but they're beatable. I'd fancy England against Poland or Senegal. If Mexico win Group F, there's a big chance England could reach a semi-final by going that route.

They have what a lot of teams in the tournament don't have - an out and out striker who is in-form.

Brazil, France, Spain, Portugal and Belgium have that too.

Who is Brazil's in form out and out striker? Jesus is not in form and doesn't look up to it. Firmino is not currently first choice, is not an out and out striker and is at his best by doing the donkey work to create space for others.

As for Belgium's, he folds when the going gets tough.

Has Harry Kane even won any trophies?

It’s a team sport. His scoring record is superb.

However, history has shown that having an out and out scoring centre forward is not a prerequisite to winning the World Cup. For Ronaldo 2002, see Guivarc’h 1998.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 19, 2018, 08:56:24 AM
Did England create a chance after the break bar the goal? I can't remember one. They looked tired and out of ideas. Sterling a passenger.
Kane is the man, his finish for the 2nd wasn't easy. It would have been so easy to head that straight at the keeper. However, it's a win and they should kick on. Panama look well below this level. Belgium will provide a different test of course but one that as others have said they may not necessarily need to overcome.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: GJL on June 19, 2018, 09:04:19 AM
Second would be a great place for England to end up in this group.

There's a real chance of the draw opening up for them.

They should be able to stroll through the rest of the group without much pressure and a draw against Belgium for a second place finish would do them fine.

There's nothing particularly intimidating in Group H as regards possible last 16 ties.

Colombia would be tricky opponents but they're beatable. I'd fancy England against Poland or Senegal. If Mexico win Group F, there's a big chance England could reach a semi-final by going that route.

They have what a lot of teams in the tournament don't have - an out and out striker who is in-form.

I can see Belgium beating them convincingly. Much more talent in the Belgium team if they can gel together...
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: thewobbler on June 19, 2018, 09:10:51 AM
Second would be a great place for England to end up in this group.

There's a real chance of the draw opening up for them.

They should be able to stroll through the rest of the group without much pressure and a draw against Belgium for a second place finish would do them fine.

There's nothing particularly intimidating in Group H as regards possible last 16 ties.

Colombia would be tricky opponents but they're beatable. I'd fancy England against Poland or Senegal. If Mexico win Group F, there's a big chance England could reach a semi-final by going that route.

They have what a lot of teams in the tournament don't have - an out and out striker who is in-form.

I can see Belgium beating them convincingly. Much more talent in the Belgium team if they can gel together...

No doubt Belgium have 2-3 really top class players and a pretty useful first XI. Hence all these clever* people tipping them as underdogs.

But Chadli came on for them yesterday. He’d be lucky to make the Irish bench. So the depth isn’t there to change things up, or sustain the loss of starting players. Which is why they won’t win a World Cup, and a match vs England is effectively a coin toss. Especially so as Martinez is a f**king idiot.


* it never fails to amaze me how many people over the last 5 years, after having noticed that Hazard and De Bruyne hail from the same country, have taken to social media to proclaim Belgium as dark horses for everything. And always with an air of superior knowledge.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2018, 09:24:19 AM
A dark horse is simply a team that is not your usual suspects, Italy, Germany, Brazil, Spain, Argentina and France.. are fancied teams most years

Teams that are Dark horses some years are Holland, Belgium, Portugal, and dare I say it England, the fancied teams mainly because they have been there and done it, either recently or in the past on a number of occasions..

Whereas the dark horses ony have a team every so often, Belgium are that team this year for sure, providing they keep the first 11 fit..

I think most people would like to see a unfancied team win, well except the time Greece won the Euros! that was muck
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on June 19, 2018, 09:32:45 AM
Watching last night I found it hard to cheer against England for once. There's no one on the team I really dislike and a few players I cheer for every week. The manager is as middle of the road and the exact centre of the white line in the middle of the road! Thought they started well but it took a set piece to break the deadlock. They then fluffed more chances and gave up a silly penalty which enegised Tunisia (who weren't all that bad to be fair). After that England played with more doubt and fear and Tunisia grew into the match. England were still dominant but nervy. Think they just about deserved their win as they we denied a couple of clear penalties (I'm convinced FIFA do not want VAR and are determined to make it fail).

As mentioned above, that balance of their team is wrong. I personally thought Alli and Sterling - great players at club level - were poor last night. Cannot understand how Rashford is not an automatic starter in that side. Someone criticised Lingard who missed a lot of chances but he's usually a good finisher and seems to have a knack for getting into the right place at the right time. Defensively though they look like an accident waiting to happen. Maguire is big and strong but looks ready to have his pocket picked all the time and there's no way Walker can play as part of a 3 at the back based on last night. Doesn't have the positional sense or awareness. Young is a stop gap full back. He'll give you 6 or 7 out of 10 and some good deliveries at times but he's not a natural defender and it shows at times. Trippier though was impressive.  Henderson is ho-hum but that's what he's supposed to be in this team to be fair.....him or Dier will do fine.

I don't think they're contenders but their recent record is good, they seem unusually devoid of egos, have a brilliant goalscorer and some excellent attackers. Can they sort the defence out especially for games where they'll be under more pressure/have less of the ball?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 19, 2018, 09:56:22 AM
problem for Belgium is their manager
completely out of his depth and thinks he knows it all.
who in their right mind would play three at the back when playing Panama?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 19, 2018, 09:56:42 AM
A dark horse is simply a team that is not your usual suspects, Italy, Germany, Brazil, Spain, Argentina and France.. are fancied teams most years

Teams that are Dark horses some years are Holland, Belgium, Portugal, and dare I say it England, the fancied teams mainly because they have been there and done it, either recently or in the past on a number of occasions..

Whereas the dark horses ony have a team every so often, Belgium are that team this year for sure, providing they keep the first 11 fit..

I think most people would like to see a unfancied team win, well except the time Greece won the Euros! that was muck

Greece winning was great because they were as limited as Ireland and it showed that with a bit of luck Ireland could go far too. Our big chance was 2002 and Spain did everything possible to hand us the match and we still couldnt take it.
England aren't great but the good news for them is there are not many good international teams about so if the draw opens up they could find themselves in a SF and then you never know.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 19, 2018, 10:53:57 AM
Watching last night I found it hard to cheer against England for once. There's no one on the team I really dislike and a few players I cheer for every week. The manager is as middle of the road and the exact centre of the white line in the middle of the road!
I had myself convinced I wouldn't mind seeing England do well this year. Like yourself I don't mind most of their players and Southgate is a likeable sort of chap.
Yet when they scored the winner in injury time I found myself shouting obscenities and the TV. So maybe I don't really want them to do well after all  ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 19, 2018, 10:55:19 AM
A dark horse is simply a team that is not your usual suspects, Italy, Germany, Brazil, Spain, Argentina and France.. are fancied teams most years

Teams that are Dark horses some years are Holland, Belgium, Portugal, and dare I say it England, the fancied teams mainly because they have been there and done it, either recently or in the past on a number of occasions..

Whereas the dark horses ony have a team every so often, Belgium are that team this year for sure, providing they keep the first 11 fit..

I think most people would like to see a unfancied team win, well except the time Greece won the Euros! that was muck

Greece winning was great because they were as limited as Ireland and it showed that with a bit of luck Ireland could go far too. Our big chance was 2002 and Spain did everything possible to hand us the match and we still couldnt take it.
England aren't great but the good news for them is there are not many good international teams about so if the draw opens up they could find themselves in a SF and then you never know.

I agree with that last bit. Worryingly.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 19, 2018, 10:58:06 AM
Watching last night I found it hard to cheer against England for once. There's no one on the team I really dislike and a few players I cheer for every week. The manager is as middle of the road and the exact centre of the white line in the middle of the road!
I had myself convinced I wouldn't mind seeing England do well this year. Like yourself I don't mind most of their players and Southgate is a likeable sort of chap.
Yet when they scored the winner in injury time I found myself shouting obscenities and the TV. So maybe I don't really want them to do well after all  ;D

I can't believe you actually doubted yourself  :o
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 19, 2018, 11:10:50 AM
Second would be a great place for England to end up in this group.

There's a real chance of the draw opening up for them.

They should be able to stroll through the rest of the group without much pressure and a draw against Belgium for a second place finish would do them fine.

There's nothing particularly intimidating in Group H as regards possible last 16 ties.

Colombia would be tricky opponents but they're beatable. I'd fancy England against Poland or Senegal. If Mexico win Group F, there's a big chance England could reach a semi-final by going that route.

They have what a lot of teams in the tournament don't have - an out and out striker who is in-form.

Brazil, France, Spain, Portugal and Belgium have that too.

Who is Brazil's in form out and out striker? Jesus is not in form and doesn't look up to it. Firmino is not currently first choice, is not an out and out striker and is at his best by doing the donkey work to create space for others.

As for Belgium's, he folds when the going gets tough.

Has Harry Kane even won any trophies?
What trophies had Maradona won before 1986?

Or, if you want to make a more pertinent comparison, what trophies had Gary Lineker won before 1986?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Kurtz on June 19, 2018, 11:29:29 AM
Watching last night I found it hard to cheer against England for once. There's no one on the team I really dislike and a few players I cheer for every week. The manager is as middle of the road and the exact centre of the white line in the middle of the road!
I had myself convinced I wouldn't mind seeing England do well this year. Like yourself I don't mind most of their players and Southgate is a likeable sort of chap.
Yet when they scored the winner in injury time I found myself shouting obscenities and the TV. So maybe I don't really want them to do well after all  ;D

My friends were trolling England on Twitter by the 70th min
wayyy too soon which was hilarious
The look on their faces
I actually think that England team may fair better against likes of Belgium
Teams like Tunisia that park the bus seem to cause them problems
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 19, 2018, 11:40:40 AM
Watching last night I found it hard to cheer against England for once. There's no one on the team I really dislike and a few players I cheer for every week. The manager is as middle of the road and the exact centre of the white line in the middle of the road!
I had myself convinced I wouldn't mind seeing England do well this year. Like yourself I don't mind most of their players and Southgate is a likeable sort of chap.
Yet when they scored the winner in injury time I found myself shouting obscenities and the TV. So maybe I don't really want them to do well after all  ;D

My friends were trolling England on Twitter by the 70th min
wayyy too soon which was hilarious
The look on their faces
I actually think that England team may fair better against likes of Belgium
Teams like Tunisia that park the bus seem to cause them problems
Teams that park the bus at international level will almost always cause serious problems for their opponents, no matter who they are, even the very best.

Spain lost to Switzerland in 2010 despite the Swiss barely attacking in the whole game, and they then had to labouriously grind out four late 1-0 wins in the knockout stages.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 19, 2018, 12:38:02 PM
History has shown us that only 8 teams have won the World Cup. Of those 8 3 teams won it once. Of those 3 France and England were the home nations. Spain were the other team and had the Golden Age team. Uruguay won it twice as did Argentina and both were Home nation in one of them.  Argentina’s other win was the 1986 Maradona inspired team. Italy won it 4 times and are not there. So that leaves Germany with 4 and Brazil with 5. A ‘dark horse’ never wins it. Never. Ever. One may push on and get to the semis but history and logic would suggest that either of Brazil or Germany will win it. Perhaps France. Outside of that I wouldn’t be betting on anyone else.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 19, 2018, 12:45:31 PM
History has shown us that only 8 teams have won the World Cup. Of those 8 3 teams won it once. Of those 3 France and England were the home nations. Spain were the other team and had the Golden Age team. Uruguay won it twice as did Argentina and both were Home nation in one of them.  Argentina’s other win was the 1986 Maradona inspired team. Italy won it 4 times and are not there. So that leaves Germany with 4 and Brazil with 5. A ‘dark horse’ never wins it. Never. Ever. One may push on and get to the semis but history and logic would suggest that either of Brazil or Germany will win it. Perhaps France. Outside of that I wouldn’t be betting on anyone else.
Plenty of dark horses have won the European Championship.

Until 1998 history showed us that only six teams won the World Cup.

A "dark horse" will never win the World Cup, until it happens, which it will, sometime.

It's cup football.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 19, 2018, 12:56:59 PM
Only 2 teams have won a World cup outside of their own continent. Brazil and Spain (South Africa 2010)
Brazil don't look like a team that can do it. So it will be a European team. My money is on the Ze Germans. Or Belgium. Or England. No sorry definitely not England. 
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Keyser soze on June 19, 2018, 12:57:28 PM
History has shown us that only 8 teams have won the World Cup. Of those 8 3 teams won it once. Of those 3 France and England were the home nations. Spain were the other team and had the Golden Age team. Uruguay won it twice as did Argentina and both were Home nation in one of them.  Argentina’s other win was the 1986 Maradona inspired team. Italy won it 4 times and are not there. So that leaves Germany with 4 and Brazil with 5. A ‘dark horse’ never wins it. Never. Ever. One may push on and get to the semis but history and logic would suggest that either of Brazil or Germany will win it. Perhaps France. Outside of that I wouldn’t be betting on anyone else.

That would be the smart bet.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 19, 2018, 01:02:27 PM
Only 2 teams have won a World cup outside of their own continent. Brazil and Spain (South Africa 2010)
Brazil don't look like a team that can do it. So it will be a European team. My money is on the Ze Germans. Or Belgium. Or England. No sorry definitely not England.
Germany 2014 too
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 19, 2018, 01:05:20 PM
There’s been a hell of a lot of penalties!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 19, 2018, 01:06:21 PM
Only 2 teams have won a World cup outside of their own continent. Brazil and Spain (South Africa 2010)
Brazil don't look like a team that can do it. So it will be a European team. My money is on the Ze Germans. Or Belgium. Or England. No sorry definitely not England.
Germany 2014 too

Yes of course, sorry. Point still stands it's very difficult to look outside of the 2 or 3 big teams. Germany, Spain, Brazil.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 19, 2018, 01:31:32 PM
Only 2 teams have won a World cup outside of their own continent. Brazil and Spain (South Africa 2010)
Brazil don't look like a team that can do it. So it will be a European team. My money is on the Ze Germans. Or Belgium. Or England. No sorry definitely not England.
Germany 2014 too

Yes of course, sorry. Point still stands it's very difficult to look outside of the 2 or 3 big teams. Germany, Spain, Brazil.

After Cameroon 1990 wasnt an African team supposed to have won by now. The fact that Tunisia are the best team from the continent is rather worrying as they offered zip and should have been spanked about 5-0. If anything Africa has gone backwards after 28 yrs.
Germany may not even get out of the group. Can see Sweden winning 1-0 by scoring from a free kick or corner. Brazil and Argentina were poor so its there for the taking. As I said earlier England have a chance but expect them to go out on penalties in QF as usual to someone like Portugal.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 19, 2018, 02:14:40 PM
Not France. Deschamps is a dose.

It's still Germany for me, then Brazil, Spain or Portugal.

Just don't think Argentina or Uruguay have it in them, even with Messi and Suarez.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Kurtz on June 19, 2018, 02:19:04 PM
Only 2 teams have won a World cup outside of their own continent. Brazil and Spain (South Africa 2010)
Brazil don't look like a team that can do it. So it will be a European team. My money is on the Ze Germans. Or Belgium. Or England. No sorry definitely not England.
Germany 2014 too

Yes of course, sorry. Point still stands it's very difficult to look outside of the 2 or 3 big teams. Germany, Spain, Brazil.

After Cameroon 1990 wasnt an African team supposed to have won by now. The fact that Tunisia are the best team from the continent is rather worrying as they offered zip and should have been spanked about 5-0. If anything Africa has gone backwards after 28 yrs.
Germany may not even get out of the group. Can see Sweden winning 1-0 by scoring from a free kick or corner. Brazil and Argentina were poor so its there for the taking. As I said earlier England have a chance but expect them to go out on penalties in QF as usual to someone like Portugal.

I used to play in a league in London when I worked there
There was a Nigerian Team. Seriously gifted and athletic lads
They would play like Brazil for 30 minutes and then indiscipline and bad mistakes creep in.
leading them to lose the game.  By the end of the game they'd be fighting with themselves.
One guy even chased his team mate with a football boot at the final whistle
They had a reputation for starting strong and then falling apart
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 19, 2018, 02:32:11 PM
Only 2 teams have won a World cup outside of their own continent. Brazil and Spain (South Africa 2010)
Brazil don't look like a team that can do it. So it will be a European team. My money is on the Ze Germans. Or Belgium. Or England. No sorry definitely not England.
Germany 2014 too

Yes of course, sorry. Point still stands it's very difficult to look outside of the 2 or 3 big teams. Germany, Spain, Brazil.
The Chermans are hardly going to win back to back world cups in fairness. Not even the Dubs could do that.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 19, 2018, 02:34:10 PM
Only 2 teams have won a World cup outside of their own continent. Brazil and Spain (South Africa 2010)
Brazil don't look like a team that can do it. So it will be a European team. My money is on the Ze Germans. Or Belgium. Or England. No sorry definitely not England.
Germany 2014 too

Yes of course, sorry. Point still stands it's very difficult to look outside of the 2 or 3 big teams. Germany, Spain, Brazil.

After Cameroon 1990 wasnt an African team supposed to have won by now. The fact that Tunisia are the best team from the continent is rather worrying as they offered zip and should have been spanked about 5-0. If anything Africa has gone backwards after 28 yrs.
Germany may not even get out of the group. Can see Sweden winning 1-0 by scoring from a free kick or corner. Brazil and Argentina were poor so its there for the taking. As I said earlier England have a chance but expect them to go out on penalties in QF as usual to someone like Portugal.

I used to play in a league in London when I worked there
There was a Nigerian Team. Seriously gifted and athletic lads
They would play like Brazil for 30 minutes and then indiscipline and bad mistakes creep in.
leading them to lose the game.  By the end of the game they'd be fighting with themselves.
One guy even chased his team mate with a football boot at the final whistle
They had a reputation for starting strong and then falling apart
Are they in the World Cup?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: north_antrim_hound on June 19, 2018, 03:05:51 PM
Only 2 teams have won a World cup outside of their own continent. Brazil and Spain (South Africa 2010)
Brazil don't look like a team that can do it. So it will be a European team. My money is on the Ze Germans. Or Belgium. Or England. No sorry definitely not England.
Germany 2014 too

Yes of course, sorry. Point still stands it's very difficult to look outside of the 2 or 3 big teams. Germany, Spain, Brazil.

After Cameroon 1990 wasnt an African team supposed to have won by now. The fact that Tunisia are the best team from the continent is rather worrying as they offered zip and should have been spanked about 5-0. If anything Africa has gone backwards after 28 yrs.
Germany may not even get out of the group. Can see Sweden winning 1-0 by scoring from a free kick or corner. Brazil and Argentina were poor so its there for the taking. As I said earlier England have a chance but expect them to go out on penalties in QF as usual to someone like Portugal.

I used to play in a league in London when I worked there
There was a Nigerian Team. Seriously gifted and athletic lads
They would play like Brazil for 30 minutes and then indiscipline and bad mistakes creep in.
leading them to lose the game.  By the end of the game they'd be fighting with themselves.
One guy even chased his team mate with a football boot at the final whistle
They had a reputation for starting strong and then falling apart

Given your username Where you thinking to yourself “ The Horror, the Horror”
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 19, 2018, 03:48:56 PM
As I said earlier England have a chance but expect them to go out on penalties in QF as usual to someone like Portugal.
England can't meet Portugal before the semis.

The semis will be two teams from Groups A to D and two teams from Groups E to H.

So it's impossible to have, say, all three of Brazil, Germany and England in the semis.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 19, 2018, 05:01:02 PM
As I said earlier England have a chance but expect them to go out on penalties in QF as usual to someone like Portugal.
England can't meet Portugal before the semis.

The semis will be two teams from Groups A to D and two teams from Groups E to H.

So it's impossible to have, say, all three of Brazil, Germany and England in the semis.

I think I'm right in saying that if Brazil win their group and Germany finish 2nd in theirs, which is very possible at the moment, then Brazil and Germany would meet in the last 16.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 19, 2018, 06:13:31 PM
As I said earlier England have a chance but expect them to go out on penalties in QF as usual to someone like Portugal.
England can't meet Portugal before the semis.

The semis will be two teams from Groups A to D and two teams from Groups E to H.

So it's impossible to have, say, all three of Brazil, Germany and England in the semis.

I think I'm right in saying that if Brazil win their group and Germany finish 2nd in theirs, which is very possible at the moment, then Brazil and Germany would meet in the last 16.
All last 16 clashes are between teams in adjacent groups, ie. A1 v B2, B1 v A2, C1 v D2 and so on.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on June 19, 2018, 06:26:16 PM
As I said earlier England have a chance but expect them to go out on penalties in QF as usual to someone like Portugal.
England can't meet Portugal before the semis.

The semis will be two teams from Groups A to D and two teams from Groups E to H.

So it's impossible to have, say, all three of Brazil, Germany and England in the semis.

I think I'm right in saying that if Brazil win their group and Germany finish 2nd in theirs, which is very possible at the moment, then Brazil and Germany would meet in the last 16.
its also possible at the minute that we could see france v argentina in the last 16.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 19, 2018, 08:19:54 PM
Egypt have imploded
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2018, 08:20:51 PM
Salah should be sold now! He’s struggling
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 19, 2018, 08:27:21 PM
Russia for Sam.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 19, 2018, 08:31:15 PM
Russia for Sam.
More chance of Russia winning it than Roscommon 
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: dec on June 19, 2018, 08:32:53 PM
Russia are officially the lowest ranked team in the tournament but because they didn't have to qualify they have only played friendlies for the last two years which keeps their rating down.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 19, 2018, 08:34:55 PM
Russia for Sam.
More chance of Russia winning it than Roscommon

Are Laois still in the championship? Seriously, though, I don’t take any notice of them at all. I hope the 50 of ye that care about football are doing well.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 19, 2018, 08:39:01 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on June 19, 2018, 09:05:03 PM
Why are the VAR refs wearing a full kit? Is John Terry the head of the Referees committee?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: under the bar on June 19, 2018, 09:47:53 PM
Russia are officially the lowest ranked team in the tournament but because they didn't have to qualify they have only played friendlies for the last two years which keeps their rating down.

Liverpool were the lowest ranked team in the 2005 CL cos they were utter dog-shit.    Half a dozen perfected Stevie Me UDA-loving dives later and they win the thing.  Never say never.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on June 19, 2018, 09:50:30 PM
Why are the VAR refs wearing a full kit? Is John Terry the head of the Referees committee?
;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 20, 2018, 07:52:53 AM
Russia are officially the lowest ranked team in the tournament but because they didn't have to qualify they have only played friendlies for the last two years which keeps their rating down.
Plus they've had 2 years to perfect their juicing program
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: screenexile on June 20, 2018, 10:02:19 AM
The Russian team have collectively run further in their 2 matches than any other team in the competition has done in any other game. . .

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Minder on June 20, 2018, 10:05:09 AM
The Russian team have collectively run further in their 2 matches than any other team in the competition has done in any other game. . .

Marty Morrissey would call that “passion”......
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 20, 2018, 10:56:45 AM
Russia are officially the lowest ranked team in the tournament but because they didn't have to qualify they have only played friendlies for the last two years which keeps their rating down.
Plus they've had 2 years to perfect their juicing program

If they were juiced, do you think they are the only ones on it?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: angermanagement on June 20, 2018, 11:00:52 AM

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: oakleaflad on June 20, 2018, 11:04:16 AM
Russia haven't exactly beat 2 superpowers of world football.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: oakleaflad on June 20, 2018, 11:04:52 AM


He has it down already but still trying to defend himself it seems  :o
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: screenexile on June 20, 2018, 12:36:17 PM
Russia haven't exactly beat 2 superpowers of world football.

That's not remotely the issue . . . they've run further than any other team in the competition by a good way and as Dinny says they probability is that other teams are juicing as well. Not that the World Cup needs to be any more farcical but this adds to it!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 20, 2018, 01:24:58 PM
Russia haven't exactly beat 2 superpowers of world football.

That's not remotely the issue . . . they've run further than any other team in the competition by a good way and as Dinny says they probability is that other teams are juicing as well. Not that the World Cup needs to be any more farcical but this adds to it!

The WC is farcical now? Righto, Sarg.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on June 20, 2018, 01:26:17 PM
Ronaldo at it again already.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 20, 2018, 01:37:53 PM
Ronaldo easily the greatest of all time. There can be no discussion on Ronaldo v Messi.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Armamike on June 20, 2018, 02:06:09 PM
Can we discuss Ronaldo and Maradona?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 20, 2018, 02:11:19 PM
Can we discuss Ronaldo and Maradona?
No
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 20, 2018, 05:30:46 PM
Ger Canning - "their jerseys have their Christian names on the back"

The Saudis he's talking about
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 20, 2018, 05:41:56 PM
Brian Kerr seems to get crankier every time I hear him.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 20, 2018, 05:50:36 PM
Brian Kerr seems to get crankier every time I hear him.

That's good coming from you  :D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 20, 2018, 05:53:53 PM
Some awful dull matches in this World cup.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on June 20, 2018, 07:00:22 PM
The Russian team have collectively run further in their 2 matches than any other team in the competition has done in any other game. . .

The running distances are nothing extraordinary as modern football goes. Liverpool and Man City would regluarly cover greater distances and their average over the course of a premier league season would be on par with what Russia have done so far in the world cup. It must be noted that I believe that football is rife with doping.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on June 20, 2018, 07:49:00 PM
The Russian team have collectively run further in their 2 matches than any other team in the competition has done in any other game. . .

The running distances are nothing extraordinary as modern football goes. Liverpool and Man City would regluarly cover greater distances and their average over the course of a premier league season would be on par with what Russia have done so far in the world cup. It must be noted that I believe that football is rife with doping.

+1
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 20, 2018, 07:49:07 PM
Spain with 83% possession and just one shot on target. The Iran blanket is heavy.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: GetOverTheBar on June 20, 2018, 07:51:07 PM
The Russian team have collectively run further in their 2 matches than any other team in the competition has done in any other game. . .

The running distances are nothing extraordinary as modern football goes. Liverpool and Man City would regluarly cover greater distances and their average over the course of a premier league season would be on par with what Russia have done so far in the world cup. It must be noted that I believe that football is rife with doping.

Absolutely no doubt, however the substances that are in the game with that much money are probably 20/30 years off even being tested. EPO and the likes just wouldn't cut it anymore.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on June 20, 2018, 07:51:52 PM
Spain with 83% possession and just one shot on target. The Iran blanket is heavy.

Spain 0 Carlow 0 at HT.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 20, 2018, 07:57:19 PM
Spain with 83% possession and just one shot on target. The Iran blanket is heavy.

Spain 0 Carlow 0 at HT.
Spain 0 Man United 0 at HT
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2018, 08:22:48 PM
Spain with 83% possession and just one shot on target. The Iran blanket is heavy.

Spain 0 Carlow 0 at HT.
Spain 0 Man United 0 at HT
Man Utd will probably finish higher in the group though, fourth would be no good
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 20, 2018, 08:23:24 PM
Some celebrations by Iran for a goal that never was.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 20, 2018, 08:25:00 PM
Ronnie Whelan is an awful pain in the arse.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Puckoon on June 20, 2018, 08:28:49 PM
Ronnie Whelan is an awful pain in the arse.

No one will ever be worse than Alexi f**king Llalas
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on June 20, 2018, 08:55:37 PM
Ronnie Whelan is an awful pain in the arse.

Great footballer for Liverpool, Good Footballers for Ireland, shite co-commentator for RTE.

He keeps asking ''why did Iran not come out to play before they conceded the goal?''
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: dec on June 20, 2018, 09:01:50 PM
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44555599

"England manager Gareth Southgate dislocated his right shoulder while running on Wednesday."

I thought of putting it in the "Things that make you go What the F**k?" thread.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on June 20, 2018, 09:53:23 PM
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44555599

"England manager Gareth Southgate dislocated his right shoulder while running on Wednesday."

I thought of putting it in the "Things that make you go What the F**k?" thread.
fecking ramos at it again.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 21, 2018, 08:38:57 AM
Sepp Blatter was the one who sacrificed World Cup quantity for quality.
 Here's the Guardian on Saudi Arabia

"Saudí Arabia have not won a match in 4 World Cups.
Saudi Arabia, who suffered a minor scare when an engine on their plane caught fire before landing on Rostov-on-Don on Monday, instead have not found the back of the net in their last four World Cup outings.    "

The absolute piss take is of course Qatar, hosts next time. Never even qualified.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Armamike on June 21, 2018, 10:26:54 AM
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44555599

"England manager Gareth Southgate dislocated his right shoulder while running on Wednesday."

I thought of putting it in the "Things that make you go What the F**k?" thread.
fecking ramos at it again.

Was hoping the Iranians might issue a fatwa on him but sadly he leads a charmed existence.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: manfromdelmonte on June 21, 2018, 11:46:41 AM
Ronnie Whelan is an awful pain in the arse.
Mispronounces so many words.
Gets his irregular verbs wrong
I hate listening to him
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: never kickt a ball on June 21, 2018, 12:57:49 PM
Ronnie Whelan is an awful pain in the arse.
Mispronounces so many words.
Gets his irregular verbs wrong
I hate listening to him

What done he did?
He’s not easily understanded I’ll gave/give you that
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on June 21, 2018, 07:48:38 PM
Someone was on here a while ago asking where are all the "enforcers" gone? That Ante Rebić looks the business.
As I post this he's just gone and fucked up a a good chance.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 21, 2018, 08:13:59 PM
Can Caballero put that error down to concussion also?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 21, 2018, 08:16:27 PM
Are you going to make the same "joke" everytime a Goalkeeper makes a mistake?

Never mind the mistake from the keeper anyway. It was a top class finish.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 21, 2018, 08:30:45 PM
Is there even a team outside Europe that’s any good? Mexico?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 21, 2018, 08:33:50 PM
Argentina not in good shape.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: under the bar on June 21, 2018, 08:39:20 PM
Argentina not in good shape.

Would remind you of Liverpool at Old Trafford or in the CL final. Totally clueless.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Minder on June 21, 2018, 08:40:17 PM
Argentina not in good shape.

Would remind you of Liverpool at Old Trafford or in the CL final. Totally clueless.

You aren’t near wise, seriously
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 21, 2018, 08:41:53 PM
Are you going to make the same "joke" everytime a Goalkeeper makes a mistake?

Never mind the mistake from the keeper anyway. It was a top class finish.
The only joke was using concussion as an excuse. 2nd goal there a top class finish without the need of any error on route.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 21, 2018, 08:52:02 PM
Messi and his Argentina team miserable. With the magic of Modric Croatia showing why they are one of the dark horses.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Puckoon on June 21, 2018, 08:53:45 PM
Argentina not in good shape.

Absolutely awful. No spark whatsoever.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: under the bar on June 21, 2018, 09:00:36 PM
Argentina not in good shape.

Would remind you of Liverpool at Old Trafford or in the CL final. Totally clueless.

And now also humiliated in the same way! Lots of similarities beyond the joke goalkeeping. Messi carrying a team largely  made up of average joes just like Salah.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: spuds on June 21, 2018, 09:05:02 PM
Argentina not in good shape.

Would remind you of Liverpool at Old Trafford or in the CL final. Totally clueless.

And now also humiliated in the same way! Lots of similarities beyond the joke goalkeeping. Messi carrying a team largely  made up of average joes just like Salah.

You watch life through a strange filter.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 21, 2018, 09:11:40 PM
Argentina not in good shape.

Would remind you of Liverpool at Old Trafford or in the CL final. Totally clueless.

And now also humiliated in the same way! Lots of similarities beyond the joke goalkeeping. Messi carrying a team largely  made up of average joes just like Salah.

You watch life through a strange filter.
I think he has something wrong with him.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 21, 2018, 09:14:46 PM
Hard to fathom how argentina are so rubbish with their players. Despite that goalie mistake it was a fantastic finish.

Some nasty enough tackles in that game.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 21, 2018, 09:19:13 PM
Why is it a surprise? The internal going ons have been well reported, they needed a last ditch game to qualify! Trouble with managers and players!

I picked them regardless for tonight thinking that this was the game they needed to win! Pants
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on June 21, 2018, 10:44:19 PM
Are you going to make the same "joke" everytime a Goalkeeper makes a mistake?

Never mind the mistake from the keeper anyway. It was a top class finish.
The only joke was using concussion as an excuse. 2nd goal there a top class finish without the need of any error on route.

So you weren't joking with your statement?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on June 22, 2018, 09:34:09 AM
Been decent so far. Looking forward to seeing Messi when his team play.....oh wait....
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 22, 2018, 10:11:17 AM
Why is it a surprise? The internal going ons have been well reported, they needed a last ditch game to qualify! Trouble with managers and players!

I picked them regardless for tonight thinking that this was the game they needed to win! Pants

Yes so they've now resorted to a black taxi driver as manager.

A Brazilian guy I know through work told me before the start of the tournament that he didn't think any South American sides would reach the quarter finals.  I thought he was off his head.  Maybe he knows something.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 22, 2018, 10:15:23 AM
Hope this confirms Messi is no Pele when it comes to the World Stage.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: johnnycool on June 22, 2018, 10:21:30 AM
Hope this confirms Messi is no Pele when it comes to the World Stage.

Diego carried worse teams over the line in a World Cup.

In saying that Croatia are a fine team and I've always liked the neat and tidy Modric.
Rakitic, Mandzuckic and Perisic are good footballers in anyone's language.

They'll take some beating.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 22, 2018, 10:23:38 AM
Hope this confirms Messi is no Pele when it comes to the World Stage.

The same Messi who dragged Argentina to the WC final in 2014 and won player of the tournament and only lost the final to a goal in extra time? That Messi.

We certainly live in a world of now.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 22, 2018, 10:27:56 AM
Hope this confirms Messi is no Pele when it comes to the World Stage.

The same Messi who dragged Argentina to the WC final in 2014 and won player of the tournament and only lost the final to a goal in extra time? That Messi.

We certainly live in a world of now.

That was a ridiculous FIFA PR decision, Messi wasn't in the top 10 players in 2014.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Minder on June 22, 2018, 10:40:15 AM
Hope this confirms Messi is no Pele when it comes to the World Stage.

The same Messi who dragged Argentina to the WC final in 2014 and won player of the tournament and only lost the final to a goal in extra time? That Messi.

We certainly live in a world of now.

That was a ridiculous FIFA PR decision, Messi wasn't in the top 10 players in 2014.

Yeah that was just PR
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 22, 2018, 10:42:36 AM
Hope this confirms Messi is no Pele when it comes to the World Stage.

The same Messi who dragged Argentina to the WC final in 2014 and won player of the tournament and only lost the final to a goal in extra time? That Messi.

We certainly live in a world of now.

That was a ridiculous FIFA PR decision, Messi wasn't in the top 10 players in 2014.

Yea Messi is all PR. Must have been PR that knocked Portugal out in the group stages that year too!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 22, 2018, 10:42:46 AM
Arg need a draw between Iceland and Nigeria. Or a Nigeria win.
It could happen. Then a Michael Bond scenario if they dump the manager and a rerun of Offaly 98 could happen
Otherwise they may be on the way home soon
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 22, 2018, 10:48:11 AM
Hope this confirms Messi is no Pele when it comes to the World Stage.

The same Messi who dragged Argentina to the WC final in 2014 and won player of the tournament and only lost the final to a goal in extra time? That Messi.

We certainly live in a world of now.

That was a ridiculous FIFA PR decision, Messi wasn't in the top 10 players in 2014.

Yea Messi is all PR. Must have been PR that knocked Portugal out in the group stages that year too!

Didn't say that.  And what has Portugal going out at the group stages in 2014 got to do with the price of fish??
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: magpie seanie on June 22, 2018, 10:53:43 AM
Hope this confirms Messi is no Pele when it comes to the World Stage.

The same Messi who dragged Argentina to the WC final in 2014 and won player of the tournament and only lost the final to a goal in extra time? That Messi.

We certainly live in a world of now.

That was a ridiculous FIFA PR decision, Messi wasn't in the top 10 players in 2014.

Yea Messi is all PR. Must have been PR that knocked Portugal out in the group stages that year too!

Didn't say that.  And what has Portugal going out at the group stages in 2014 got to do with the price of fish??


Probably has more to do with the price of fish that it has to do with Messi.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 22, 2018, 10:57:04 AM
So Messi is shite now is he? That what the experts on here think?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 22, 2018, 10:57:56 AM
Hope this confirms Messi is no Pele when it comes to the World Stage.

The same Messi who dragged Argentina to the WC final in 2014 and won player of the tournament and only lost the final to a goal in extra time? That Messi.

We certainly live in a world of now.

That was a ridiculous FIFA PR decision, Messi wasn't in the top 10 players in 2014.

Yea Messi is all PR. Must have been PR that knocked Portugal out in the group stages that year too!

Didn't say that.  And what has Portugal going out at the group stages in 2014 got to do with the price of fish??

Exactly!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 22, 2018, 11:03:42 AM
So Messi is shite now is he? That what the experts on here think?

Def not shite,  fantastic player but hasn't done it at World Cup level like Pele who scored great goal in final when he was 17 and 12 years later in final of 1970. Messi fluffed it totally in last World Cup final.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 22, 2018, 11:06:15 AM
So Messi is shite now is he? That what the experts on here think?

Def not shite fantastic player but hasn't done it at World Cup level like Pele who scored great goal in final when he was 17 and 12 years later in final of 1970. Messi fluffed it totally in last World Cup final.

Robbing this from Twitter.

Pele! Injured in 62, sure he didn't play in the knockout games. 66? Sure he limped out, he didn't want it enough. 70? He has the best team around him. Fraud. And he never did it in Europe.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 22, 2018, 11:08:09 AM
So Messi is shite now is he? That what the experts on here think?

Def not shite fantastic player but hasn't done it at World Cup level like Pele who scored great goal in final when he was 17 and 12 years later in final of 1970. Messi fluffed it totally in last World Cup final.

Robbing this from Twitter.

Pele! Injured in 62, sure he didn't play in the knockout games. 66? Sure he limped out, he didn't want it enough. 70? He has the best team around him. Fraud. And he never did it in Europe.

The best weren't in Europe then  He scored over 1000 goals. Hardly a fraud scoring in a World Cup final at 17. Messi missed a sitter in the last World Cup final. Good in Europe aye but not the greatest on World Stage . Messi is no fraud and for you to suggest Pele was a fraud shows you haven't a clue.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 22, 2018, 11:20:21 AM
Last WC Messi was class. Last night was a clusterfcuk in management. Argentina players keep passing to Messi even when he surrounded. He dragged them to WC. Football has existed longer than two weeks. Also Ronaldo has being poor in Madrids last few Champions League finals with a few penos. Barely played knock out in last Euro Champs and Nani was Portugals players. He is rubbish. No. Judge a player over their career. Messi was mentioned as the best ever at 23. And them finals Ronaldo struggled in was because he was being marked but Madrid players intelligent enough to pass to players in space. Argentinas bench last night probably would have bet their starting team with a CM pairing of 66 years old.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 22, 2018, 11:24:18 AM
Not denying Mess is an incredible player. Probably in top 5 ever just saying in World Cup final tournaments never hit the heights of Pele.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 22, 2018, 11:24:30 AM
So Messi is shite now is he? That what the experts on here think?

Def not shite fantastic player but hasn't done it at World Cup level like Pele who scored great goal in final when he was 17 and 12 years later in final of 1970. Messi fluffed it totally in last World Cup final.

Robbing this from Twitter.

Pele! Injured in 62, sure he didn't play in the knockout games. 66? Sure he limped out, he didn't want it enough. 70? He has the best team around him. Fraud. And he never did it in Europe.

The best weren't in Europe then  He scored over 1000 goals. Hardly a fraud scoring in a World Cup final at 17. Messi missed a sitter in the last World Cup final. Good in Europe aye but not the greatest on World Stage

How can you judge a player you have never seen play? How many of those 1000 goals did you see? In age when every minute of your game is watch and analysed, the likes of Messi and Ronaldo simply stand out above all other players currently and historically because the evidence is there for all to see.

Messi is the greatest footballer for all time and a great goal scorer, Ronaldo probably the greatest goal scorer of all time and a great footballer.

Enjoy these players and their achievements, these type of players only arrive every 20 years or so. You can enjoy both without having to try and disparage the other.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 22, 2018, 11:33:42 AM
Messi is class no doubt. The best ever is worth a debate. For me it was Pele though Maradonna up there as well. After that Best and Cruff imo.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 22, 2018, 11:44:58 AM
Maradona better than the two of them; and i still have pele ahead if him
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Minder on June 22, 2018, 11:54:20 AM
Is Peles 1000 goals not a bit of a joke ? Friendlies and all sorts of shite included in that total
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 22, 2018, 12:06:08 PM
Is Peles 1000 goals not a bit of a joke ? Friendlies and all sorts of shite included in that total

No joke when he was putting them past keepers in World Cup finals.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 22, 2018, 12:07:02 PM
World Cup performance depends on the supporting cast.  It is very like the All Ireland club in that regard. I don't think you can say Diego Armando is better cos he won a World Cup.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 22, 2018, 12:21:43 PM
Messi not even in top 3.
Messi great in a team of greats. Ronaldo great in any team. Ronaldo is the complete footballer.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 22, 2018, 12:25:33 PM
World Cup performance depends on the supporting cast.  It is very like the All Ireland club in that regard. I don't think you can say Diego Armando is better cos he won a World Cup.

Pele won three ... admit it he was a decent aul player   :)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: blewuporstuffed on June 22, 2018, 12:27:21 PM
So Messi is shite now is he? That what the experts on here think?

Def not shite fantastic player but hasn't done it at World Cup level like Pele who scored great goal in final when he was 17 and 12 years later in final of 1970. Messi fluffed it totally in last World Cup final.

Robbing this from Twitter.

Pele! Injured in 62, sure he didn't play in the knockout games. 66? Sure he limped out, he didn't want it enough. 70? He has the best team around him. Fraud. And he never did it in Europe.

The best weren't in Europe then  He scored over 1000 goals. Hardly a fraud scoring in a World Cup final at 17. Messi missed a sitter in the last World Cup final. Good in Europe aye but not the greatest on World Stage

How can you judge a player you have never seen play? How many of those 1000 goals did you see? In age when every minute of your game is watch and analysed, the likes of Messi and Ronaldo simply stand out above all other players currently and historically because the evidence is there for all to see.

Messi is the greatest footballer for all time and a great goal scorer, Ronaldo probably the greatest goal scorer of all time and a great footballer.

Enjoy these players and their achievements, these type of players only arrive every 20 years or so. You can enjoy both without having to try and disparage the other.


Think that sums it up for me.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: oakleaflad on June 22, 2018, 12:35:24 PM
Jeez lads they were all great players. Pele, Maradona, Ronaldo, Messi, Best, Cruyff. Everybody named was great. No doubt nostalgia has a part to play in some cases and the fact Ronaldo and Messi are playing currently will influence people too.

With that being said I think the two boys playing at the minute have taken things to a whole new level. Maradona didn't score anywhere near what they did and Pele wasn't tested against the best defenders in the World regularly.

1. Ronaldo
2. Messi
3. The rest.


Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 22, 2018, 12:41:40 PM
Ronaldo
Maradonna
Fat Ronaldo

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 22, 2018, 12:46:56 PM
Pele
Maradonna
Messi
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dire Ear on June 22, 2018, 12:48:59 PM
Pele
Maradonna
Messi
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 22, 2018, 12:52:54 PM
Pele
Maradonna
Messi

We'll be accused of being the same person!  :P
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 22, 2018, 12:54:44 PM
Messi
Maradona
Gary Breen
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 22, 2018, 01:17:11 PM
For a player to considered in the conversation for the greatest of the great, they have to be able to beat an opponent, to fool them and ghost past them as if they were not there.

Maradona, Pele, Cruyff, Zidane and Ronadinho could all do it.

Messi can do it.

Other players who are not in the conversation for the greatest of all time could do it. John Barnes, George Best.

Cristiano Ronaldo can't do it.

It's a rather significant failing for somebody who wants to be considered in the conversation.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Armamike on June 22, 2018, 01:22:43 PM
Ronaldo's not even the best Ronaldo!  The earlier vintage was better imo.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 22, 2018, 01:23:54 PM
For a player to considered in the conversation for the greatest of the great, they have to be able to beat an opponent, to fool them and ghost past them as if they were not there.

Maradona, Pele, Cruyff, Zidane and Ronadinho could all do it.

Messi can do it.

Other players who are not in the conversation for the greatest of all time could do it. John Barnes, George Best.

Cristiano Ronaldo can't do it.

It's a rather significant failing for somebody who wants to be considered in the conversation.

Here's 10 minutes worth of clips of him doing it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgpSeoJUZCg

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 22, 2018, 01:24:54 PM
The current 2 play in a time that you cant tackle from behind to get the ball! Defenders were hard hitting then and if messi and ronaldo played back then they would score half the goals they do now! The younger generation dont remember Maradona enough but he took Napoli that had won f**k all before and nothing since he left, to glory in a time every superstar in the world played in Italian football
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 22, 2018, 01:33:08 PM
For a player to considered in the conversation for the greatest of the great, they have to be able to beat an opponent, to fool them and ghost past them as if they were not there.

Maradona, Pele, Cruyff, Zidane and Ronadinho could all do it.

Messi can do it.

Other players who are not in the conversation for the greatest of all time could do it. John Barnes, George Best.

Cristiano Ronaldo can't do it.

It's a rather significant failing for somebody who wants to be considered in the conversation.

Here's 10 minutes worth of clips of him doing it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgpSeoJUZCg

He's good   hateful hure for the diving tho..
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 22, 2018, 01:34:16 PM
The current 2 play in a time that you cant tackle from behind to get the ball! Defenders were hard hitting then and if messi and ronaldo played back then they would score half the goals they do now! The younger generation dont remember Maradona enough but he took Napoli that had won f**k all before and nothing since he left, to glory in a time every superstar in the world played in Italian football

I wonder the age of some posters. To say Pele was the best but having seen what? a few clips on tv? That's ludicrous. Not many games were televised in the 1960s never mind Brazilian ones. At that rate why not have Stanley Matthews in the top 3?

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 22, 2018, 01:37:51 PM
For a player to considered in the conversation for the greatest of the great, they have to be able to beat an opponent, to fool them and ghost past them as if they were not there.

Maradona, Pele, Cruyff, Zidane and Ronadinho could all do it.

Messi can do it.

Other players who are not in the conversation for the greatest of all time could do it. John Barnes, George Best.

Cristiano Ronaldo can't do it.

It's a rather significant failing for somebody who wants to be considered in the conversation.

Here's 10 minutes worth of clips of him doing it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgpSeoJUZCg
Using pace to outrun people is not beating a man. It's outsprinting them.

Ronaldo simply cannot do what Messi does or what Maradona or Pele or Ronadinho did.

He can't even do what the original Ronaldo did.

You don't see him double or triple marked like the others were because teams know that he can't do that.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 22, 2018, 01:49:25 PM
If going on how players performed in World cups Messi wouldn't be close to the top three. Maradona is rated ahead of him on World cups performances because he carried two much weaker Argentina teams on paper on his back to either winning or narrowly losing a final.

All talk thus far has been about offensive players what about defenders? Lothar Matthaus,Cafu,Cannavaro to name but a few that really stood out in World cups.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: oakleaflad on June 22, 2018, 01:51:25 PM
For a player to considered in the conversation for the greatest of the great, they have to be able to beat an opponent, to fool them and ghost past them as if they were not there.

Maradona, Pele, Cruyff, Zidane and Ronadinho could all do it.

Messi can do it.

Other players who are not in the conversation for the greatest of all time could do it. John Barnes, George Best.

Cristiano Ronaldo can't do it.

It's a rather significant failing for somebody who wants to be considered in the conversation.

Here's 10 minutes worth of clips of him doing it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgpSeoJUZCg
Using pace to outrun people is not beating a man. It's outsprinting them.

Ronaldo simply cannot do what Messi does or what Maradona or Pele or Ronadinho did.

He can't even do what the original Ronaldo did.

You don't see him double or triple marked like the others were because teams know that he can't do that.
You must be on the wind up?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dire Ear on June 22, 2018, 01:56:30 PM
Pele
Maradonna
Messi

We'll be accused of being the same person!  :P
Dodgy alright !
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 22, 2018, 01:58:58 PM
For a player to considered in the conversation for the greatest of the great, they have to be able to beat an opponent, to fool them and ghost past them as if they were not there.

Maradona, Pele, Cruyff, Zidane and Ronadinho could all do it.

Messi can do it.

Other players who are not in the conversation for the greatest of all time could do it. John Barnes, George Best.

Cristiano Ronaldo can't do it.

It's a rather significant failing for somebody who wants to be considered in the conversation.

Here's 10 minutes worth of clips of him doing it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgpSeoJUZCg
Using pace to outrun people is not beating a man. It's outsprinting them.

Ronaldo simply cannot do what Messi does or what Maradona or Pele or Ronadinho did.

He can't even do what the original Ronaldo did.

You don't see him double or triple marked like the others were because teams know that he can't do that.

Running past someone is not beating a man. Christ almighty I've heard it all now.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 22, 2018, 02:09:51 PM
The current 2 play in a time that you cant tackle from behind to get the ball! Defenders were hard hitting then and if messi and ronaldo played back then they would score half the goals they do now! The younger generation dont remember Maradona enough but he took Napoli that had won f**k all before and nothing since he left, to glory in a time every superstar in the world played in Italian football

I wonder the age of some posters. To say Pele was the best but having seen what? a few clips on tv? That's ludicrous. Not many games were televised in the 1960s never mind Brazilian ones. At that rate why not have Stanley Matthews in the top 3?

Pele was around long after Stanley Mathews. Now ure being daft
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: johnnycool on June 22, 2018, 02:11:17 PM
The current 2 play in a time that you cant tackle from behind to get the ball! Defenders were hard hitting then and if messi and ronaldo played back then they would score half the goals they do now! The younger generation dont remember Maradona enough but he took Napoli that had won f**k all before and nothing since he left, to glory in a time every superstar in the world played in Italian football

I wonder the age of some posters. To say Pele was the best but having seen what? a few clips on tv? That's ludicrous. Not many games were televised in the 1960s never mind Brazilian ones. At that rate why not have Stanley Matthews in the top 3?

Pele was around long after Stanley Mathews. Now ure being daft

Bloody madness mentioning Stanley Matthews alright when we all know the Dixie Dean is the top top top England player ever produced.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 22, 2018, 02:16:52 PM
The current 2 play in a time that you cant tackle from behind to get the ball! Defenders were hard hitting then and if messi and ronaldo played back then they would score half the goals they do now! The younger generation dont remember Maradona enough but he took Napoli that had won f**k all before and nothing since he left, to glory in a time every superstar in the world played in Italian football

I wonder the age of some posters. To say Pele was the best but having seen what? a few clips on tv? That's ludicrous. Not many games were televised in the 1960s never mind Brazilian ones. At that rate why not have Stanley Matthews in the top 3?

Pele was around long after Stanley Mathews. Now ure being daft

Bloody madness mentioning Stanley Matthews alright when we all know the Dixie Dean is the top top top England player ever produced.

Rubbish. Cliff Bastin!!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 22, 2018, 02:18:05 PM
By the way I don't get Naymar
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 22, 2018, 02:33:47 PM
...but were told Naymar is world class. Last World Cup he was a joke as well... the bollox of a bluffer fell over
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 22, 2018, 02:35:50 PM
VAR delivered big time there. Costa Rica would have been eliminated on a wrong call in any other WC.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Shamrock Shore on June 22, 2018, 02:47:29 PM
Neymar is a spoofer.

Feck - poor Costa Rica
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 22, 2018, 02:53:31 PM
The current 2 play in a time that you cant tackle from behind to get the ball! Defenders were hard hitting then and if messi and ronaldo played back then they would score half the goals they do now! The younger generation dont remember Maradona enough but he took Napoli that had won f**k all before and nothing since he left, to glory in a time every superstar in the world played in Italian football

I wonder the age of some posters. To say Pele was the best but having seen what? a few clips on tv? That's ludicrous. Not many games were televised in the 1960s never mind Brazilian ones. At that rate why not have Stanley Matthews in the top 3?

Pele was around long after Stanley Mathews. Now ure being daft

Bloody madness mentioning Stanley Matthews alright when we all know the Dixie Dean is the top top top England player ever produced.

Rubbish. Cliff Bastin!!

There’ll never be another Len Shackleton
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 22, 2018, 02:53:48 PM
Neymar is a spoofer.

Feck - poor Costa Rica

Some performance by the spoofer.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 22, 2018, 02:55:31 PM
Still not convinced by Brazil. The tournament is still wide open. Engerlund could bring it home.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 22, 2018, 03:00:22 PM
Neymar is a spoofer.

Feck - poor Costa Rica

Some performance by the spoofer.

Left just before he scored. He's a bluffer
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 22, 2018, 03:13:40 PM
Jesus hes a wee cnut hi. Hard boy to like. Does fcuk all other than dive and girn then when they go one up starts the showboatin
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 22, 2018, 03:23:05 PM
Neymar is a little treat twat. That's not news to anyone.

He's also clearly one of the best footballers on the planet. Pretending otherwise is absolutely daft.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 22, 2018, 03:26:51 PM
The difference between the relish Ronaldo takes from being the guy for his national team and the sheer weight that looks to be on Messi’s shoulders when playing for Argentina is what separates the two greats of the modern game. And I think the question of which one is the greatest is starting to answer itself.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 22, 2018, 03:39:28 PM
Still not convinced by Brazil. The tournament is still wide open. Engerlund could bring it home.
Have that feeling myself so much so that I stuck a few quid on them. Although the small stake would never be enough to ease the pain of having to listen to them!

I can easily see them making the semis.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 22, 2018, 03:52:09 PM
Still not convinced by Brazil. The tournament is still wide open. Engerlund could bring it home.
Have that feeling myself so much so that I stuck a few quid on them. Although the small stake would never be enough to ease the pain of having to listen to them!

I can easily see them making the semis.

You’ve been watching a different tournament to me if you think England have much of a chance. It’s not rare for the good teams to start slowly in these competitions. The same five or six will still be in the QFs when all is said and done.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 22, 2018, 03:53:25 PM
Still not convinced by Brazil. The tournament is still wide open. Engerlund could bring it home.
Have that feeling myself so much so that I stuck a few quid on them. Although the small stake would never be enough to ease the pain of having to listen to them!

I can easily see them making the semis.

You’ve been watching a different tournament to me if you think England have much of a chance. It’s not rare for the good teams to start slowly in these competitions. The same five or six will still be in the QFs when all is said and done.
Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: bennydorano on June 22, 2018, 05:01:11 PM
If rumours are to be believed an Sterling is dropped I think it's good news for England, shows that Southgate could see he was rubbish v Tunisia and also has the balls to drop him. I think things might be different for England this tournament, in previous years egos were all trying to be managed, they had a wealth of talent but managers invariably went for big name players played slightly out of position rather than play a lesser light in his strongest position.

Early days obviously but they've a decent chance of success, semis at least likely imo. Their Achilles heel is the defence, Walker, Stones & Maguire are all potential bombscares. Think they'll be a much better team without Sterling (or if he's played it should be as a winger).
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 22, 2018, 06:02:09 PM
Nigeria bate the fishfingers.
good news for Argentina
https://www.rte.ie/sport/results/soccer/world-cup/9731/tables/
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 22, 2018, 06:17:01 PM
Can't believe all this talk of football greats and none of you have mentioned Terry Phelan😎
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: lenny on June 22, 2018, 06:48:33 PM
If rumours are to be believed an Sterling is dropped I think it's good news for England, shows that Southgate could see he was rubbish v Tunisia and also has the balls to drop him. I think things might be different for England this tournament, in previous years egos were all trying to be managed, they had a wealth of talent but managers invariably went for big name players played slightly out of position rather than play a lesser light in his strongest position.

Early days obviously but they've a decent chance of success, semis at least likely imo. Their Achilles heel is the defence, Walker, Stones & Maguire are all potential bombscares. Think they'll be a much better team without Sterling (or if he's played it should be as a winger).

Sterling is a good athlete but isn’t a footballer. England are an average side who are well managed at the moment. They can bully weak teams with their athleticism, pace and baility to press but when they come up against any decent technical team they’ll be found out.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 22, 2018, 06:53:36 PM
If rumours are to be believed an Sterling is dropped I think it's good news for England, shows that Southgate could see he was rubbish v Tunisia and also has the balls to drop him. I think things might be different for England this tournament, in previous years egos were all trying to be managed, they had a wealth of talent but managers invariably went for big name players played slightly out of position rather than play a lesser light in his strongest position.

Early days obviously but they've a decent chance of success, semis at least likely imo. Their Achilles heel is the defence, Walker, Stones & Maguire are all potential bombscares. Think they'll be a much better team without Sterling (or if he's played it should be as a winger).

Sterling is a good athlete but isn’t a footballer. England are an average side who are well managed at the moment. They can bully weak teams with their athleticism, pace and baility to press but when they come up against any decent technical team they’ll be found out.

Sterling is pretty clearly a better footballer than the likes of Rashford or Vardy. It’s hard to stand out in such an average outfit as England’s current team.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 22, 2018, 08:53:39 PM
That was the best game of this World cup so far. Fitting that Shaqiri scored the winning goal as he was the best player on the pitch 2nd half.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 22, 2018, 08:58:09 PM
Set up nicely for Serbia to put overrated Brazil and Naymar on the plane home
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 22, 2018, 09:12:05 PM
That was the best game of this World cup so far. Fitting that Shaqiri scored the winning goal as he was the best player on the pitch 2nd half.
It was  a Balkan derby. Over half the Swiss ream are Kosovars,  Macedonians etc
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 22, 2018, 09:18:56 PM
Two ethnic Albanians with the goals and Xhaka with a double eagle celebration. His father was imprisoned for three years fire protesting against Milosevic.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: bennydorano on June 22, 2018, 09:54:48 PM
If rumours are to be believed an Sterling is dropped I think it's good news for England, shows that Southgate could see he was rubbish v Tunisia and also has the balls to drop him. I think things might be different for England this tournament, in previous years egos were all trying to be managed, they had a wealth of talent but managers invariably went for big name players played slightly out of position rather than play a lesser light in his strongest position.

Early days obviously but they've a decent chance of success, semis at least likely imo. Their Achilles heel is the defence, Walker, Stones & Maguire are all potential bombscares. Think they'll be a much better team without Sterling (or if he's played it should be as a winger).

Sterling is a good athlete but isn’t a footballer. England are an average side who are well managed at the moment. They can bully weak teams with their athleticism, pace and baility to press but when they come up against any decent technical team they’ll be found out.

Sterling is pretty clearly a better footballer than the likes of Rashford or Vardy. It’s hard to stand out in such an average outfit as England’s current team.
A better winger but not a better striker.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 22, 2018, 10:30:47 PM
Can't believe all this talk of football greats and none of you have mentioned Terry Phelan😎
To be fair, not even in his wildest dreams has Cristiano Ronaldo ever been capable of scoring a goal as good as this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBBjWbj0MQU
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 22, 2018, 10:49:04 PM
If rumours are to be believed an Sterling is dropped I think it's good news for England, shows that Southgate could see he was rubbish v Tunisia and also has the balls to drop him. I think things might be different for England this tournament, in previous years egos were all trying to be managed, they had a wealth of talent but managers invariably went for big name players played slightly out of position rather than play a lesser light in his strongest position.

Early days obviously but they've a decent chance of success, semis at least likely imo. Their Achilles heel is the defence, Walker, Stones & Maguire are all potential bombscares. Think they'll be a much better team without Sterling (or if he's played it should be as a winger).

Sterling is a good athlete but isn’t a footballer. England are an average side who are well managed at the moment. They can bully weak teams with their athleticism, pace and baility to press but when they come up against any decent technical team they’ll be found out.

Sterling is pretty clearly a better footballer than the likes of Rashford or Vardy. It’s hard to stand out in such an average outfit as England’s current team.
A better winger but not a better striker.

But he’s being played as a CAM?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: bennydorano on June 22, 2018, 11:00:57 PM
He looked totally lost in his central role - off Kane.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 22, 2018, 11:33:05 PM
Can't believe all this talk of football greats and none of you have mentioned Terry Phelan😎
To be fair, not even in his wildest dreams has Cristiano Ronaldo ever been capable of scoring a goal as good as this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBBjWbj0MQU

No one tried to tackle him    :D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 22, 2018, 11:38:41 PM
What a goal.

Did it win goal of the month or season?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 23, 2018, 03:40:59 AM
I absolutely love that Xhaka and Shaquri stuck it to the Serbs. Poetic justice.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on June 23, 2018, 06:41:02 AM
Who would you like to "stick it to" the Croats?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 23, 2018, 07:07:54 AM
Two ethnic Albanians with the goals and Xhaka with a double eagle celebration. His father was imprisoned for three years fire protesting against Milosevic.
The Serb  fans were whistling the 2 all match. 
Kosovo v Serbia is very strong

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jun/23/xhaka-and-shaqiri-goal-celebrations-bring-balkan-politics-to-world-cup
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 23, 2018, 08:35:29 AM
The celebrations were great and all but how Mitrovic didn't get a penalty off VAR I'll never know. Both teams have looked good and Serbia will definitely put it up to Brazil.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: rrhf on June 23, 2018, 08:46:03 AM
I absolutely love that Xhaka and Shaquri stuck it to the Serbs. Poetic justice.
You sir are a hypocrite then  re Gaza
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 23, 2018, 09:58:25 AM
I absolutely love that Xhaka and Shaquri stuck it to the Serbs. Poetic justice.
You sir are a hypocrite then  re Gaza

Completely. Normal Serbian families have had their land stolen and been driven out of the areas they and their families have spent their entire lives. We are not talking about Serbian politicians or military officers here. Normal people.

I really wish all this stuff would stay out of sport.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 23, 2018, 10:23:02 AM
Who would you like to "stick it to" the Croats?
Turkey didn't qualify
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: bennydorano on June 23, 2018, 12:18:59 PM
Croatian team celebrate victory with a sing song

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/dejan-lovren-fascist-nazi-collaborator-ustase-song-bojna-cavoglave/
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 23, 2018, 12:30:25 PM
I absolutely love that Xhaka and Shaquri stuck it to the Serbs. Poetic justice.
You sir are a hypocrite then  re Gaza

Completely. Normal Serbian families have had their land stolen and been driven out of the areas they and their families have spent their entire lives. We are not talking about Serbian politicians or military officers here. Normal people.

I really wish all this stuff would stay out of sport.

If the two of ye can’t see the difference between someone who was born in Kosovo sticking it to Sebia after scoring a goal to beat them at the WC and a lad in the crowd in the north trying to tie their ‘struggle’ to the Palestinians’ by waving a flag, I don’t really have any desire to discuss it further because it’s going to be a complete waste of time.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 23, 2018, 12:45:23 PM
I absolutely love that Xhaka and Shaquri stuck it to the Serbs. Poetic justice.
You sir are a hypocrite then  re Gaza

Completely. Normal Serbian families have had their land stolen and been driven out of the areas they and their families have spent their entire lives. We are not talking about Serbian politicians or military officers here. Normal people.

I really wish all this stuff would stay out of sport.

If the two of ye can’t see the difference between someone who was born in Kosovo sticking it to Sebia after scoring a goal to beat them at the WC and a lad in the crowd in the north trying to tie their ‘struggle’ to the Palestinians’ by waving a flag, I don’t really have any desire to discuss it further because it’s going to be a complete waste of time.

Oh I can see the difference. I just can’t see how you can “absolutely love” it. It has no place in sport.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 23, 2018, 12:54:31 PM
I absolutely love that Xhaka and Shaquri stuck it to the Serbs. Poetic justice.
You sir are a hypocrite then  re Gaza

Completely. Normal Serbian families have had their land stolen and been driven out of the areas they and their families have spent their entire lives. We are not talking about Serbian politicians or military officers here. Normal people.

I really wish all this stuff would stay out of sport.

If the two of ye can’t see the difference between someone who was born in Kosovo sticking it to Sebia after scoring a goal to beat them at the WC and a lad in the crowd in the north trying to tie their ‘struggle’ to the Palestinians’ by waving a flag, I don’t really have any desire to discuss it further because it’s going to be a complete waste of time.

Oh I can see the difference. I just can’t see how you can “absolutely love” it. It has no place in sport.

I’d argue this sort of nationalism is absolutely intrinsic to international soccer.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 23, 2018, 01:15:41 PM
I absolutely love that Xhaka and Shaquri stuck it to the Serbs. Poetic justice.
You sir are a hypocrite then  re Gaza

Completely. Normal Serbian families have had their land stolen and been driven out of the areas they and their families have spent their entire lives. We are not talking about Serbian politicians or military officers here. Normal people.

I really wish all this stuff would stay out of sport.

If the two of ye can’t see the difference between someone who was born in Kosovo sticking it to Sebia after scoring a goal to beat them at the WC and a lad in the crowd in the north trying to tie their ‘struggle’ to the Palestinians’ by waving a flag, I don’t really have any desire to discuss it further because it’s going to be a complete waste of time.

Oh I can see the difference. I just can’t see how you can “absolutely love” it. It has no place in sport.

I’d argue this sort of nationalism is absolutely intrinsic to international soccer.

No problem in pride of place. You’re right that it’s damn important. But they are representing Switzerland and dont make that celebration playing against anyone else. It was premeditated no matter what the players may have said afterwards about “emotion”. The Serbs are no angels either of course and some of the pre match comments from their camp were unnecessary at best.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on June 23, 2018, 01:20:35 PM
Croatian team celebrate victory with a sing song

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/dejan-lovren-fascist-nazi-collaborator-ustase-song-bojna-cavoglave/
"Thompson gun"? Pride of place and culture? Remind you of anywhere?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 23, 2018, 02:43:39 PM
Poor auld batshuayi couldn't buy a goal here.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 23, 2018, 07:33:37 PM
Lovely goal. The Germans are in trouble....
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on June 23, 2018, 08:05:28 PM
How on earth did Sweden not get a penalty? What's the point in VAR the big teams are given a free ride?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 23, 2018, 08:53:22 PM
Unreal. Never write off the Germans....
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 23, 2018, 08:53:42 PM
f**k that
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 23, 2018, 08:54:59 PM
Some goal.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 23, 2018, 08:55:44 PM
Great game. The camera man played a blinder tonight also picking out some top talent in the crowd.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 23, 2018, 08:56:30 PM
Fantastic 10 men and they were creating chance after chance. The swedes need to take a good look at themselves the way they blew that in the last 10 minutes
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 23, 2018, 08:56:38 PM
The free was in a very dangerous position and should had mire defenders in the wall
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 23, 2018, 08:57:38 PM
Could have a team failing to qualify having got 6 points.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 23, 2018, 09:00:00 PM
That was one of the all-time great goals. Utterly sublime.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 23, 2018, 09:05:38 PM
Could have a team failing to qualify having got 6 points.
Yeah. Mexico Sweden and Germany could all end up on 6 points.
https://www.google.ie/amp/www.goal.com/en/amp/news/world-cup-group-stage-tie-breakers-rules-what-happens-when-teams-/olh39ph3hunh1w1zdmhp3osft
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 23, 2018, 09:07:35 PM
Could have a team failing to qualify having got 6 points.
Yeah. Mexico Sweden and Germany could all end up on 6 points.
https://www.google.ie/amp/www.goal.com/en/amp/news/world-cup-group-stage-tie-breakers-rules-what-happens-when-teams-/olh39ph3hunh1w1zdmhp3osft

If Sweden beat Mexico by 1 goal then we will probably see a draw from a hat!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 23, 2018, 09:13:27 PM
Are positions decided firstly on goal difference?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 23, 2018, 09:17:56 PM
Jumped the gun on a draw from a hat. Should have read the link first!  Didn’t realise they use head to head. In fact, fair play points come before a draw.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Minder on June 23, 2018, 10:10:52 PM
Are positions decided firstly on goal difference?

Yes
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 23, 2018, 10:39:10 PM

Here are the possibilities in the Mexico-Germany-Sweden-South Korea Group.  Nobody is officially out, or officially through to last 16 after two games.

- Mexico need a point vs. Sweden to go through and top the group.
- Sweden must better Germany's result to guarantee qualifying. If they beat Mexico and Germany fail to win, Sweden will top the group.
- Germany must better Sweden's result to guarantee qualifying.
- If both Germany and Sweden draw, the team in the higher-scoring game will finish second. If both draws are the same scoreline, Germany finish second on head to head.
- South Korea must beat Germany and hope Sweden lose to Mexico to have a chance of qualifying.

THREE-WAY TIE FOR FIRST AND SECOND
- If Sweden and Germany win they will finish level on six points with Mexico, and it will first come down to goal difference.
- Sweden are through in all scenarios.
- If Sweden win by two or more goals then Germany are guaranteed to qualify with any win (Mexico out)
- If Germany win by two or more goals then Sweden are through with any win (Mexico out)
- If both Germany and Sweden win by two goals they are both through (Mexico out)
- If both Germany and Sweden win 1-0 the three teams would have identical records and it would go to head-to-head mini-league, and this would see Germany and Sweden through on goals scored (with Germany top on direct head to head with Sweden) and Mexico out.
- If both Germany and Sweden win 2-1 (or any higher one-goal identical margin of victory) then Sweden would win the group, Mexico in second and Germany third on head to head goals scored
- The only other way Mexico can go through, at the expense of Germany, if is both games are won by one goal, but Mexico's defeat against Sweden is a higher-scoring game.
- If Sweden win by one goal, and Germany win by one goal but in a high-scoring game, Germany win the group with Sweden in second and Mexico out

THREE-WAY TIE FOR SECOND
- If South Korea win and Sweden lose there will be a three-way tie for second on three points for Germany, Sweden and South Korea. It will first come down to goal difference.
- If South Korea beat Germany by two goals they are guaranteed to finish second
- If South Korea beat Germany 1-0 and Sweden lose 1-0 to Mexico, Germany would be second on direct head to head against Sweden with South Korea bottom
- If South Korea beat Germany by a higher-scoring one-goal margin than Sweden lose to Mexico, then South Korea would finish second on direct head to head against Germany with Sweden bottom
- If Sweden lose by more than one goal they cannot qualify, and South Korea would therefore finish second with any victory
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on June 23, 2018, 11:48:19 PM
I think it is advantage Germany in the race for second place. They play Korea who have lost both games. Germany will be looking to win by 2 clear goals to guarantee progress.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 24, 2018, 12:08:53 AM
South Korea won't beat Germany so all the above is a load of bollocks.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 24, 2018, 04:43:25 AM
South Korea won't beat Germany so all the above is a load of bollocks.

Or a load of Tony Baloney...
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 24, 2018, 09:16:04 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jun/23/toni-kroos-germany-sweden-world-cup-match-report

Germany had stepped on to the front foot at the outset, squeezing up the field, with their full-backs pinned high. They took an early grip on possession, with one statistic showing they made 122 passes in the opening 10 minutes to Sweden’s six.

The worry for Löw was how threatening Sweden came to look on the counterattack and how easily they carved apart his team. It was extraordinary to see a German defence in such open and obliging mood. It was no exaggeration to say the game could have been over at the interval.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 24, 2018, 01:16:36 PM
Fifa have opened a disciplinary procedure against Xhaka and Shakiri after their  political gestures on Friday .


Die FIFA hat ein Disziplinarverfahren gegen Granit Xhaka und Xherdan Shaqiri eröffnet. Grund dafür ist der Jubel der beiden Schweizer Nationalspieler im Spiel gegen Serbien. Auch Serbien-Coach Mladen Krstajic hat Ärger am Hals.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 24, 2018, 01:46:25 PM
Jaysus, that Panama team are dung.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 24, 2018, 01:48:02 PM
England’s inevitable flop is going to be extra sweet this year.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 24, 2018, 01:48:30 PM
Jaysus, that Panama team are dung.

Imagine the shit that’s going to qualify for 2026 with 9 additional non European teams.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 24, 2018, 01:50:52 PM
England’s inevitable flop is going to be extra sweet this year.

What do you reckon constitutes a flop for them? I reckon 1/4 final is par. And most of what I’ve read in English media realises that. I wouldn’t take the BBC studio as the pulse of their nation. Just like I wouldn’t do it for Brexit  :P
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 24, 2018, 02:03:32 PM
Every corner should pretty much translate to a penalty based on the first half.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 24, 2018, 02:04:06 PM
England’s inevitable flop is going to be extra sweet this year.

What do you reckon constitutes a flop for them? I reckon 1/4 final is par. And most of what I’ve read in English media realises that. I wouldn’t take the BBC studio as the pulse of their nation. Just like I wouldn’t do it for Brexit  :P

Last 16/QF and being well beaten is always a flop for the hype England generate. After these two scoreines and, who knows, maybe a draw against a disinterested Belgian team, the hype will hit maximum overdrive. Which is why losing to a Poland or Columbia will be so deflating. It’s beautiful to watch.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 24, 2018, 02:08:31 PM
England’s inevitable flop is going to be extra sweet this year.

What do you reckon constitutes a flop for them? I reckon 1/4 final is par. And most of what I’ve read in English media realises that. I wouldn’t take the BBC studio as the pulse of their nation. Just like I wouldn’t do it for Brexit  :P

Last 16/QF and being well beaten is always a flop for the hype England generate. After these two scoreines and, who knows, maybe a draw against a disinterested Belgian team, the hype will hit maximum overdrive. Which is why losing to a Poland or Columbia will be so deflating. It’s beautiful to watch.

Losing to Poland or Colombia would certainly be a flop, agree with you there. Simply because their quality means they should do better than that. Not so sure a 1/4 final defeat to a top quality team would be though. The players don’t generate the hype. Don’t see them getting beyond the 1/4. And don’t think they’ll get a point off Belgium either.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on June 24, 2018, 02:37:33 PM
I'd fancy either Colombia  to beat England tbh. Poland maybe, if they get their act together after the last day.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 24, 2018, 02:53:11 PM
Well done to Panama drew that 2nd half 1-1 against the World champions elect.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 24, 2018, 02:58:00 PM
Damo has been pretty good on the panel since he came on board.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Stan Laurel on June 24, 2018, 04:26:43 PM
I hope England win it - mainly to annoy the soccer heads who refer to Man U, Liverpool etc as their team, but where their team mates are playing in white they hate them.  ::)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 24, 2018, 04:37:11 PM
I hope England win it - mainly to annoy the soccer heads who refer to Man U, Liverpool etc as their team, but where their team mates are playing in white they hate them.  ::)

I’m sure you’re a Sligo Rovers season ticket holder yourself alright.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Stan Laurel on June 24, 2018, 05:28:09 PM
I hope England win it - mainly to annoy the soccer heads who refer to Man U, Liverpool etc as their team, but where their team mates are playing in white they hate them.  ::)

I’m sure you’re a Sligo Rovers season ticket holder yourself alright.

No I don't "support" any soccer team, 90 minutes 0-0 with multi millionaires lying down when someone looks at them is not my idea of a sport!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 24, 2018, 05:37:14 PM
This Japanese team are fun to watch.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 24, 2018, 06:05:34 PM
Just switched over to RTE 2. Dietmar Hamann has better and clearer English than Stephanie Roche.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 24, 2018, 06:07:03 PM
Just switched over to RTE 2. Dietmar Hamann has better and clearer English than Stephanie Roche.

Wow. Just wow. She clearly has a dry throat or a cold. Captain Obvious missing the blindingly obvious, managing to be an arse in the process.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 24, 2018, 06:10:48 PM
Just switched over to RTE 2. Dietmar Hamann has better and clearer English than Stephanie Roche.

Wow. Just wow. She clearly has a dry throat or a cold. Captain Obvious missing the blindingly obvious.

You and her needs to...


Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 24, 2018, 06:11:55 PM
Just switched over to RTE 2. Dietmar Hamann has better and clearer English than Stephanie Roche.

Wow. Just wow. She clearly has a dry throat or a cold. Captain Obvious missing the blindingly obvious.

You and her needs to...




The inability to show contrition isn’t surprising from you.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: bennydorano on June 24, 2018, 06:33:36 PM
Delighted to have an ew wedge on Engerland. It's very open.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mouview on June 24, 2018, 06:46:54 PM
Please, just do her a favour and cut her adrift. Feel for her.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 24, 2018, 06:56:07 PM
Please, just do her a favour and cut her adrift. Feel for her.

She’s clearly sick. Surely they could just have had her switch for another night.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 24, 2018, 07:40:42 PM
Felt sorry for her. She’s obviously got a sore throat or something.

I thought Han Solo’s sister was on the panel as well this year. Did they change their mind on her?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 24, 2018, 07:58:26 PM
Slaven Bilic is excellent in his analysis. Surprised he hasn't been given another premiership job.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 24, 2018, 08:00:10 PM
Delighted to have an ew wedge on Engerland. It's very open.

Do they have to make final?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: highorlow on June 24, 2018, 08:03:20 PM
Don’t the wummin have their own World Cup? Why have a female on the panel?

This tokenism is getting obvious now.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 24, 2018, 08:10:28 PM
Don’t the wummin have their own World Cup? Why have a female on the panel?

This tokenism is getting obvious now.

If they know their stuff, I don’t see a problem.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 24, 2018, 08:40:03 PM
Colombia bringing plenty of colour to WC
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 24, 2018, 08:48:09 PM
Don’t the wummin have their own World Cup? Why have a female on the panel?

This tokenism is getting obvious now.
Missing a trick with not getting the gay lady player on
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 24, 2018, 08:55:42 PM
Poland have been dire about the only European team to stink the place out even Iceland had more about them
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 24, 2018, 08:59:42 PM
Don’t the wummin have their own World Cup? Why have a female on the panel?

This tokenism is getting obvious now.

Eni Aluko has been on of the best panelists on UK TV, as has Alex Scott on BBC. Showing up t**ts like Evra who just rock up with no research done whatsoever. Nothing token about them at all.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: spuds on June 24, 2018, 09:03:34 PM
Colombia are a nice team to watch. Their supporters are even better. :P
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 24, 2018, 09:05:01 PM
Don’t the wummin have their own World Cup? Why have a female on the panel?

This tokenism is getting obvious now.

Eni Aluko has been on of the best panelists on UK TV, as has Alex Scott on BBC. Showing up t**ts like Evra who just rock up with no research done whatsoever. Nothing token about them at all.

Their general standard is much higher as they won't get a job of the back of being an ex player but have to earn it. A few of them have been very good. A few of their male counterparts not so much.

On the subject of women there were nearly more shots of women in the crowd than of the football lol.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 24, 2018, 09:25:30 PM
Don’t the wummin have their own World Cup? Why have a female on the panel?

This tokenism is getting obvious now.

Eni Aluko has been on of the best panelists on UK TV, as has Alex Scott on BBC. Showing up t**ts like Evra who just rock up with no research done whatsoever. Nothing token about them at all.

Their general standard is much higher as they won't get a job of the back of being an ex player but have to earn it. A few of them have been very good. A few of their male counterparts not so much.

On the subject of women there were nearly more shots of women in the crowd than of the football lol.
More of this please.....

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 25, 2018, 09:32:22 AM
Don’t the wummin have their own World Cup? Why have a female on the panel?

This tokenism is getting obvious now.

Eni Aluko has been on of the best panelists on UK TV, as has Alex Scott on BBC. Showing up t**ts like Evra who just rock up with no research done whatsoever. Nothing token about them at all.

Agree with this.  Aluko has been excellent.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 25, 2018, 10:28:07 AM
Been an enjoyable WC so far. No 0-0's. Some teams are poor but then it gives us a drubbing in the group stage which is fun to watch. Like all tournaments, the groups are just a prelude to the real football in the do or die knockout rounds.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 25, 2018, 10:38:03 AM
Some teams are poor but then it gives us a drubbing in the group stage which is fun to watch.
Do 2 people post from the one account?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 10:56:05 AM
Don’t the wummin have their own World Cup? Why have a female on the panel?

This tokenism is getting obvious now.
Missing a trick with not getting the gay lady player on

Two horrendous cave-dwelling posts that only two posts even saw enough of a issue to comment on. And then Laoislad posts some juvenile tits and ass stuff at the worst possible moment just to show his lack of awareness. Sometimes I despair for the state of this board.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2018, 11:11:17 AM
Don’t the wummin have their own World Cup? Why have a female on the panel?

This tokenism is getting obvious now.
Missing a trick with not getting the gay lady player on

Two horrendous cave-dwelling posts that only two posts even saw enough of a issue to comment on. And then Laoislad posts some juvenile tits and ass stuff at the worst possible moment just to show his lack of awareness. Sometimes I despair for the state of this board.

Completely agree with the above part in bold, for different reasons  ;)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 25, 2018, 11:26:06 AM
Some teams are poor but then it gives us a drubbing in the group stage which is fun to watch.
Do 2 people post from the one account?

I don't follow?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 25, 2018, 07:20:40 PM
Don’t the wummin have their own World Cup? Why have a female on the panel?

This tokenism is getting obvious now.
Missing a trick with not getting the gay lady player on

Two horrendous cave-dwelling posts that only two posts even saw enough of a issue to comment on. And then Laoislad posts some juvenile tits and ass stuff at the worst possible moment just to show his lack of awareness. Sometimes I despair for the state of this board.
They look like fully developed tits to me, maybe Laoislad can post some more pictures for closer inspection. 
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on June 25, 2018, 07:35:58 PM
Don’t the wummin have their own World Cup? Why have a female on the panel?

This tokenism is getting obvious now.
Missing a trick with not getting the gay lady player on

Two horrendous cave-dwelling posts that only two posts even saw enough of a issue to comment on. And then Laoislad posts some juvenile tits and ass stuff at the worst possible moment just to show his lack of awareness. Sometimes I despair for the state of this board.
They look like fully developed tits to me, maybe Laoislad can post some more pictures for closer inspection.

And while he's at it some ass, I don't see any ass in that picture
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Eamonnca1 on June 25, 2018, 07:52:44 PM
Don’t the wummin have their own World Cup? Why have a female on the panel?

This tokenism is getting obvious now.
Missing a trick with not getting the gay lady player on

Grow up the pair of yiz
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Over the Bar on June 25, 2018, 08:15:54 PM
The Iranian players are kicking off like a scouser who's been told happy-hour is over!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on June 25, 2018, 08:18:01 PM
Spain v morocco is a cracking match. End to end.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 25, 2018, 08:42:50 PM
Ronaldo lucky. How could it be a yellow?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 25, 2018, 08:45:50 PM
Ronaldo lucky. How could it be a yellow?

There was nothing in it. Iranian went down as if he was shot.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 25, 2018, 08:47:15 PM
Ronaldo lucky. How could it be a yellow?

There was nothing in it. Iranian went down as if he was shot.
Agreed. The yellow should have went to the Iranian for play acting.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 25, 2018, 08:51:01 PM
Norman Wisdom refereeing 😂
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2018, 08:51:53 PM
Some controversy in the spain game.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 25, 2018, 08:51:58 PM
Ronaldo lucky. How could it be a yellow?

There was nothing in it. Iranian went down as if he was shot.
He made contact with his chin. If it was an accidental collision, he shouldn’t be booked?
I thought it was deliberate.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 25, 2018, 08:57:51 PM
Spain just a bit lucky to top that group.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 25, 2018, 09:00:06 PM
Spain just a bit lucky to top that group.

Imagine if the Iranian guy had scored the late chance and put Portugal out. There would have been mayhem.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 25, 2018, 09:04:28 PM
And people thought VAR would get rid of talking points. Mad. I watched Spain game which was end to end but spent end of game flicking between both. So far a brilliant World Cup.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2018, 09:06:14 PM
Is it true var is not for offside decisions?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 25, 2018, 09:08:42 PM
Is it true var is not for offside decisions?
No?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 25, 2018, 09:11:23 PM
Is it true var is not for offside decisions?

No, quite the contrary. No idea what the linesman was at as every UK commentator spent the first week telling us they were under specific instructions to let VAR sort it out for tight decisions and keep the flag down.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 25, 2018, 09:13:34 PM
Also, Martin Keown and Guy Mowbray are utter morons. Spent the match going on about how lucky Morocco are and how Spain wouldn't have expected a test. The same Morocco side largely outplayed Portugal last week and were terribly unlucky to lose their opener.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 25, 2018, 09:13:44 PM
Ronaldo should have been sent off.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 25, 2018, 09:23:31 PM
Absolutely, clearly threw a punch and partially caught him with it. The fact he didn't land clean and knock your man out doesn't mitigate s clear red card offence.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 25, 2018, 09:25:12 PM
Absolutely, clearly threw a punch and partially caught him with it. The fact he didn't land clean and knock your man out doesn't mitigate s clear red card offence.
Yep, and yer man’s reaction is completely irrelevant too.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: thewobbler on June 25, 2018, 09:28:47 PM
I’m not sure what it is some of you want from football, but if it’s red cards for Ronaldo tonight, then I never wish to lay eyes upon the game that you do want.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: lenny on June 25, 2018, 09:29:34 PM
Ronaldo lucky. How could it be a yellow?

There was nothing in it. Iranian went down as if he was shot.
He made contact with his chin. If it was an accidental collision, he shouldn’t be booked?
I thought it was deliberate.

It was a bit reckless but not deliberate. Having seen it a few times I felt it was a yellow card and the ref got that one right. Also the handball was correct according to the rule which makes mention of the hand being in an unnatural position. A defender cannot jump for a ball with his arm up in the air behind him as a backstop. Correct decision again and Alaan shearer is a completely useless pundit.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 25, 2018, 09:33:08 PM
I’m not sure what it is some of you want from football, but if it’s red cards for Ronaldo tonight, then I never wish to lay eyes upon the game that you do want.
For me, he deliberately elbowed the fella on the chin. For me, that’s a red card.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: thewobbler on June 25, 2018, 09:39:21 PM
I’m not sure what it is some of you want from football, but if it’s red cards for Ronaldo tonight, then I never wish to lay eyes upon the game that you do want.
For me, he deliberately elbowed the fella on the chin. For me, that’s a red card.

His path to the ball was being blocked so he wrestled a man out of his way. Flailing body parts tend to follow in these situations, especially if your opppnent mans up a little. As a result the Iranian got a gentle graze; the kind of impact you’d associate with a child poking you with a drinking straw.

When many years ago, they realised they needed sendings off as an ultimate deterrent for foul play, it really wasn’t with this in mind.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 25, 2018, 09:52:35 PM
He did it intentionally IMO. Exactly the type of foul play they want to get rid of.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 25, 2018, 09:54:56 PM
Unbelievable that anyone would try to say it wasn't intentional ffs. It was blatant!

Also, it's not about what anyone "wants" from the game of football. I of course want to see the best players and the best teams playing each other but not at the expense of the fecking rules. Whether you're Ronaldo or some walt from Panama that nobody has ever heard of, of you commit a red card offence, you should be sent off.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: beer baron on June 25, 2018, 10:55:59 PM
Red all day. If it was the other way round and Ronnie was panned out on the ground i'm convinced a red would've been produced.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 25, 2018, 11:15:07 PM
Red all day. If it was the other way round and Ronnie was panned out on the ground i'm convinced a red would've been produced.

Borderline red, borderline handball
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 25, 2018, 11:44:58 PM
Red all day. If it was the other way round and Ronnie was panned out on the ground i'm convinced a red would've been produced.
Yeah I agree. Ref bottled it because of who it was.
Clear red card.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 26, 2018, 12:04:01 AM
I’m not sure what it is some of you want from football, but if it’s red cards for Ronaldo tonight, then I never wish to lay eyes upon the game that you do want.
I don't think anybody was looking for multiple red cards for Ronaldo, just the one.

Which would have been thoroughly deserved.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on June 26, 2018, 05:47:24 AM
 Ronaldo deserves a red frequently mostly for the sniper roleplay but no way Id have given it for that, the Iranian got what he deserved for obstruction which really wasnt much at all.
Quaresma's was much much worse, more blantant and vendictive to boot...

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 26, 2018, 06:55:09 AM
The fact that we have all seen these incidents multiple times and still can’t get anywhere close to concensus just shows why VAR can’t possibly take the uncertainty out 100% of the time. So many decisions are open to interpretation and everyone of all views believes they are fully correct. If the only thing that VAR achieves is to clear up the holding and messing for set pieces then it will be worthwhile. Next step is playacting. And I don’t mean just diving. Even if a player has been fouled and rolls unnaturally before jumping up once the ref has decided whether to give a card or not. It’s a blight.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 26, 2018, 07:46:46 AM
Harry Redknapp meets Harry Redknapp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YZ7ZZihHHI
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: LooseCannon on June 26, 2018, 08:33:01 AM
Does anyone else think that soccer is a load of shite?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 26, 2018, 09:05:12 AM
Does anyone else think that soccer is a load of shite?

It can be but is better than Gaelic football these days : (
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on June 26, 2018, 09:36:30 AM
Just saw the Ronaldo incident now, having read some of the reaction on here and Twitter yesterday. My reaction was "is that it? ". The word harmless springs to mind. The Iranian player should have gotten a card for feigning injury and trying to get another player sent off.

The penalty being given was unbelievable.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dire Ear on June 26, 2018, 12:46:28 PM
Red all day. If it was the other way round and Ronnie was panned out on the ground i'm convinced a red would've been produced.

Borderline red, borderline handball
Absolutely, could the Iranian player been booked instead? And no penalty, I would think,  hardly deliberate
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 26, 2018, 01:03:45 PM
Does anyone else think that soccer is a load of shite?

Full of overpaid prima donnas who need a good boot up the hole😎
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on June 26, 2018, 02:47:13 PM
Does anyone else think that soccer is a load of shite?

Yes but comparing it to the sport that is on TV in America its like watching Tyrone  Derry '95 every week!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 05:09:05 PM
Jacqui Hurley is so much better hosting a panel, putting good questions to them, continuing a thread and prodding when needed than Darragh Maloney or Formula 1 Man that it isn't even funny.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 26, 2018, 07:14:52 PM
That Messi is shite....
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 26, 2018, 07:34:11 PM
That Messi is shite....
Puskas never won a World Cup either. Doesn't mean anything
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 26, 2018, 07:36:00 PM
That Messi is shite....
Puskas never won a World Cup either. Doesn't mean anything

The Portuguese Ronaldo hasn't either.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 07:43:15 PM
That Messi is shite....
Puskas never won a World Cup either. Doesn't mean anything

The Portuguese Ronaldo hasn't either.

He won the best tournament in international soccer, though.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 26, 2018, 08:04:29 PM
That Messi is shite....
Puskas never won a World Cup either. Doesn't mean anything

The Portuguese Ronaldo hasn't either.

He won the best tournament in international soccer, though.

Quit talking shite.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 26, 2018, 08:09:45 PM
Soft enough penalty there.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 26, 2018, 08:19:13 PM
Whatever about Messi, Di Maria is a bit of a bollox.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 26, 2018, 08:26:57 PM
If Argentina go out, they are full value for it.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 26, 2018, 08:30:28 PM
The big name attackers Di Maria and Higuain. Muck. And Messi not much better to be fair.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 26, 2018, 08:34:18 PM
Feck some miss. That would have finished it.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 26, 2018, 08:35:02 PM
Argentina needing a goal 15 minutes to play and Aguero still sitting on the bench WTF?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 26, 2018, 08:39:22 PM
Higuain is a bit of a bollox too.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 26, 2018, 08:41:56 PM
As funny as it would be to see argentina go out nigeria are muck meanwhile how have iceland not scored about 5.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 26, 2018, 08:45:39 PM
Diego??
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 26, 2018, 08:46:21 PM
Lovely goal. Feel sorry for Nigeria though.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2018, 08:46:31 PM
That cameraman had to shift that camera away from maradona quickly  ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on June 26, 2018, 08:46:54 PM
Diego has a Diego moment!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 26, 2018, 08:47:34 PM
That cameraman had to shift that camera away from maradona quickly  ;D
Missed that. What happened
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 26, 2018, 08:47:56 PM
Diego has a Diego moment!

Him falling asleep in the first half might be the moment of the tournament so far.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 26, 2018, 08:49:02 PM
Dunno who it was to but his reaction was to give the middle finger, both hands, to someone lol.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 26, 2018, 08:50:05 PM
That cameraman had to shift that camera away from maradona quickly  ;D
Missed that. What happened

He was telling the Nigerian fans what the score was before Rojo's goal.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 26, 2018, 08:50:33 PM

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 26, 2018, 08:53:37 PM
Marcos Rojo Argentina's hero who would have thought that? Have to feel sorry for Nigeria a heartbreaking exit for them.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 26, 2018, 08:55:45 PM
It must be absolutely mental in Buenos Aires. After They lost to Croatia it looked like they were out.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 26, 2018, 09:00:03 PM
So 8 of the last 16 teams through, 6 European 2 South American. Somethings just dont change but hey lets spunk another 16 places at the next world cup for garbage teams.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 26, 2018, 09:03:58 PM
So 8 of the last 16 teams through, 6 European 2 South American. Somethings just dont change but hey lets spunk another 16 places at the next world cup for garbage teams.

If there going to add teams it needs to be more European teams.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 26, 2018, 09:06:07 PM
So 8 of the last 16 teams through, 6 European 2 South American. Somethings just dont change but hey lets spunk another 16 places at the next world cup for garbage teams.
Fifa is like the Catholic church. The developing world has more heads.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 26, 2018, 09:10:16 PM
Don’t the wummin have their own World Cup? Why have a female on the panel?

This tokenism is getting obvious now.
Missing a trick with not getting the gay lady player on

Two horrendous cave-dwelling posts that only two posts even saw enough of a issue to comment on. And then Laoislad posts some juvenile tits and ass stuff at the worst possible moment just to show his lack of awareness. Sometimes I despair for the state of this board.
They look like fully developed tits to me, maybe Laoislad can post some more pictures for closer inspection.

And while he's at it some ass, I don't see any ass in that picture

 (http://s954.photobucket.com/user/laoislad1978/media/IMG_20180626_195255.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 26, 2018, 09:30:31 PM
Don’t the wummin have their own World Cup? Why have a female on the panel?

This tokenism is getting obvious now.
Missing a trick with not getting the gay lady player on

Two horrendous cave-dwelling posts that only two posts even saw enough of a issue to comment on. And then Laoislad posts some juvenile tits and ass stuff at the worst possible moment just to show his lack of awareness. Sometimes I despair for the state of this board.
They look like fully developed tits to me, maybe Laoislad can post some more pictures for closer inspection.

And while he's at it some ass, I don't see any ass in that picture

 (http://s954.photobucket.com/user/laoislad1978/media/IMG_20180626_195255.jpg.html)

Number 7 would make your glass eye water😂
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on June 26, 2018, 09:53:52 PM
He's well and truly goosed in this video   :o

https://twitter.com/GrizzKhan/status/1011705971280961537
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 26, 2018, 09:55:17 PM
One of the most tense nights I've football I think I've ever experienced.

I'll never, ever, ever hear a bad word about a Manchester United centre-half ever again.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: oakleaflad on June 26, 2018, 10:47:51 PM
Maradona away to hospital after the match
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on June 26, 2018, 11:00:28 PM
Rojo was allowed just stroll into the box unmarked for the winner. Moses almost got back to him but it was too late.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 26, 2018, 11:43:12 PM
So 8 of the last 16 teams through, 6 European 2 South American. Somethings just dont change but hey lets spunk another 16 places at the next world cup for garbage teams.
Fifa is like the Catholic church. The developing world has more heads.

Isnt all the money though in Europe. If its a numbers game then give one spot to China and one spot to India thats a third of the world covered and the remaining teams can be their on merit and not qualify because geographically the other neighbouring teams are even more of a joke.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 27, 2018, 12:06:18 AM
Maradona away to hospital after the match
Looks in poor health for some time but like Gazza seems to have a circle of "friends" that likes to parade him in public.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 27, 2018, 12:39:50 AM
Maradona away to hospital after the match
Looks in poor health for some time but like Gazza seems to have a circle of "friends" that likes to parade him in public.

Yeah, I’m sure it took some serious convincing for him to go to the World Cup, where he is treated like royalty alright.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 27, 2018, 12:49:45 AM
Maradona away to hospital after the match
Looks in poor health for some time but like Gazza seems to have a circle of "friends" that likes to parade him in public.

Yeah, I’m sure it took some serious convincing for him to go to the World Cup, where he is treated like royalty alright.
Real royalty would convince their king not to appear in public until fit and healthy.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Therealdonald on June 27, 2018, 12:52:54 AM
Maradona away to hospital after the match
Looks in poor health for some time but like Gazza seems to have a circle of "friends" that likes to parade him in public.

Yeah, I’m sure it took some serious convincing for him to go to the World Cup, where he is treated like royalty alright.
Real royalty would convince their king not to appear in public until fit and healthy.

He's Maradona. Everyone knows he has his vices. I'd say he's had too much to drink and needed a drip. Syf I'd say you'd be some craic on a stag party. You're the man that would suggest mini-golf
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 27, 2018, 01:01:26 AM
Diego will always be the real people's champion.



Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 27, 2018, 03:04:14 AM
So 8 of the last 16 teams through, 6 European 2 South American. Somethings just dont change but hey lets spunk another 16 places at the next world cup for garbage teams.
Fifa is like the Catholic church. The developing world has more heads.

Isnt all the money though in Europe. If its a numbers game then give one spot to China and one spot to India thats a third of the world covered and the remaining teams can be their on merit and not qualify because geographically the other neighbouring teams are even more of a joke.
Maybe it's not about footballl quality. Why is the tournament on in Russià? And next in Qatar ?

1978 had 16 teams and 38 matches
2014 had 32 teams and 64 matches
More teams means more money. 16 teams would weed out a lot of chaff.

The Euros are the same. 8 teams in 1988. Very hard to qualify with a crap team then.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on June 27, 2018, 06:41:10 AM
So 8 of the last 16 teams through, 6 European 2 South American. Somethings just dont change but hey lets spunk another 16 places at the next world cup for garbage teams.
Fifa is like the Catholic church. The developing world has more heads.

Isnt all the money though in Europe. If its a numbers game then give one spot to China and one spot to India thats a third of the world covered and the remaining teams can be their on merit and not qualify because geographically the other neighbouring teams are even more of a joke.
Maybe it's not about footballl quality. Why is the tournament on in Russià? And next in Qatar ?

1978 had 16 teams and 38 matches
2014 had 32 teams and 64 matches
More teams means more money. 16 teams would weed out a lot of chaff.

The Euros are the same. 8 teams in 1988. Very hard to qualify with a crap team then.

England had two teams in it and both were rubbish
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 27, 2018, 08:14:30 AM
Maradona away to hospital after the match
Looks in poor health for some time but like Gazza seems to have a circle of "friends" that likes to parade him in public.

Yeah, I’m sure it took some serious convincing for him to go to the World Cup, where he is treated like royalty alright.
Real royalty would convince their king not to appear in public until fit and healthy.

He's Maradona. Everyone knows he has his vices. I'd say he's had too much to drink and needed a drip. Syf I'd say you'd be some craic on a stag party. You're the man that would suggest mini-golf

Of all the things he had too much of, I'd say drink was the least. He was completely off his rocker. Drink don't do that my friend.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 27, 2018, 09:25:12 AM
The glass screen in front of him was covered in a white powdery substance with his handprints etc. Unless he was weightlifting at ht..... ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: oakleaflad on June 27, 2018, 09:30:52 AM
Yeah I thought it looked fairly obvious he was off his head on drugs, most likely cocaine.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 27, 2018, 10:03:19 AM
Argentina always play better in the black shorts.  The white ones look shite.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 27, 2018, 03:03:37 PM
Germany back in the traditional green change strip after f**king about with reds and blacks.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on June 27, 2018, 03:07:21 PM
Alright, Gok Wan.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 27, 2018, 03:07:47 PM
Alright, Gok Wan.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 27, 2018, 03:10:13 PM
Alright, Gok Wan.

See myself as more of a Laurence Llewellyn Bowen man.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: johnnycool on June 27, 2018, 03:55:42 PM
Alright, Gok Wan.

See myself as more of a Laurence Llewellyn Bowen man.

Chiffon sleeves it is then!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 27, 2018, 04:22:34 PM
Germany staring down the barrell!

Ozil has been shocking.  His body language is terrible.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 27, 2018, 04:27:49 PM
Do they need to score twice? The RTE commentators had said they needed to match Swedens result to go through. Sweden are two up.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 27, 2018, 04:27:57 PM
Germany staring down the barrell!

Ozil has been shocking.  His body language is terrible.

He's a bit of a bollox too. And Werner is hopelessly overrated. How did Sané not make this squad?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 27, 2018, 04:28:15 PM
Do they need to score twice? The RTE commentators had said they needed to match Swedens result to go through. Sweden are two up.

No, I think if they score once, Mexico will actually be out.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 27, 2018, 04:28:50 PM
Do they need to score twice? The RTE commentators had said they needed to match Swedens result to go through. Sweden are two up.

BBC are saying that 1-0 to Germany (and 2-0 to Sweden) will send Mexico home.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 27, 2018, 04:33:59 PM
Do they need to score twice? The RTE commentators had said they needed to match Swedens result to go through. Sweden are two up.

BBC are saying that 1-0 to Germany (and 2-0 to Sweden) will send Mexico home.

At the moment Mexico's goal difference is -1 (3-0 Sweden now). If Germany score and win, they will have a goal difference of +1 and go through.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 27, 2018, 04:36:31 PM
Bit of a bollix on Mexico though seeing as they beat Germany. Thought head to head was counted before goal difference, obviously not.

Liverpool are supposed to be interested in Werner. Wouldn't be impressed with him from what I've seen.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 27, 2018, 04:37:34 PM
Bit of a bollix on Mexico though seeing as they beat Germany. Thought head to head was counted before goal difference, obviously not.

Liverpool are supposed to be interested in Werner. Wouldn't be impressed with him from what I've seen.

I know we shouldn't judge on WC tournaments (see Diouf,El Hadj) but he looks cack. This Brandt lad that's just come on looked good the last couple of times..
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 27, 2018, 04:38:20 PM
Germany incredibly slow to move the ball.   No speed in that team at all.  Werner looks out of his depth.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on June 27, 2018, 04:41:34 PM
Bit of a bollix on Mexico though seeing as they beat Germany. Thought head to head was counted before goal difference, obviously not.

Liverpool are supposed to be interested in Werner. Wouldn't be impressed with him from what I've seen.

I think it does unless there are three teams tied on points!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 27, 2018, 04:45:18 PM
Bit of a bollix on Mexico though seeing as they beat Germany. Thought head to head was counted before goal difference, obviously not.

Liverpool are supposed to be interested in Werner. Wouldn't be impressed with him from what I've seen.

I think it does unless there are three teams tied on points!

I think that's correct. If Germany win, there will be 3 teams on 6 points, so GD comes in.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 27, 2018, 04:47:23 PM
Bit of a bollix on Mexico though seeing as they beat Germany. Thought head to head was counted before goal difference, obviously not.

Liverpool are supposed to be interested in Werner. Wouldn't be impressed with him from what I've seen.

I think it does unless there are three teams tied on points!

I think that's correct. If Germany win, there will be 3 teams on 6 points, so GD comes in.

ESPN were talking up Mexico’s chances of winning the World Cup a couple days ago..
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 27, 2018, 04:47:32 PM
Bit of a bollix on Mexico though seeing as they beat Germany. Thought head to head was counted before goal difference, obviously not.

Liverpool are supposed to be interested in Werner. Wouldn't be impressed with him from what I've seen.

I think it does unless there are three teams tied on points!
Makes sense.
Sweden beat Mexico. Germany beat Sweden and Mexico beat Germany so on head to head they would all knock each other out  ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 27, 2018, 04:48:47 PM
Oohhhhhh that hurt  :'(
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 27, 2018, 04:50:21 PM
Is sauerkraut a Korean dish?😜
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 27, 2018, 04:51:43 PM
Korea absolutely deserve to win this game.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 27, 2018, 04:53:13 PM
VAR works and the Germans are gone.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 27, 2018, 04:53:40 PM
No question there.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 27, 2018, 04:54:48 PM
The BBC are so happy the Germans are going out :)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 27, 2018, 04:55:27 PM
Magic😎😎😎
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 27, 2018, 04:55:50 PM
Brilliant. This has been a brilliant World Cup so far.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 27, 2018, 04:56:18 PM
It’s monents like this that make World Cups special. Absolutely beautiful.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 27, 2018, 04:56:51 PM
The BBC are so happy the Germans are going out :)
Can't blame them some other team will have to beat England on penalties now.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on June 27, 2018, 04:57:18 PM
The BBC are so happy the Germans are going out :)

Could be their Year!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 27, 2018, 04:57:47 PM
The BBC are so happy the Germans are going out :)
Can't blame them some other team will have to beat England on penalties now.

They've just said that :) "They won't beat England on penalties, they won't be beating anyone" :)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 27, 2018, 04:58:48 PM
This ref gave Germany nine fûcking minutes to rescue themselves. That’s absolutely incredible in itself.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 27, 2018, 04:59:26 PM
This ref gave Germany nine fûcking minutes to rescue themselves. That’s absolutely incredible in itself.

Ah in fairness with injuries and the VAR reviews, that's not far off. And I prefer to think he was trying to let Korea score more :)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 27, 2018, 05:00:22 PM
I'm happy for Mexico too. Don't know what happened them today but they were very good in their other games.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 27, 2018, 05:00:33 PM
Germany bottom of the group!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 27, 2018, 05:01:21 PM
The BBC are so happy the Germans are going out :)

Could be their Year!  ;D

It's certainly opening up the draw for them.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on June 27, 2018, 05:01:41 PM
Germany were useless. Muller couldn't kick the ball, they should have left him at home.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 27, 2018, 05:02:09 PM
Listening to 5Live ....they ar creaming themselves....Chris Sutton loving it!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 27, 2018, 05:09:11 PM
Since there seems to be confusion as to the tie-breaking rules, here is how it works:

TIEBREAKERS

If two or more teams are level on points, they are separated using this tiebreaker system

1. Goal difference
2. Goals scored
3. Head-to-head points
4. Head-to-head goal difference
5. Head-to-head goals scored
6. Fair play points
7. Drawing of lots

FAIR PLAY SCORING SYSTEM

Yellow card: -1
Red card for two cautions: -3
Straight red card: -4
Yellow card and straight red card: -5
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: bennydorano on June 27, 2018, 05:11:10 PM
How bad were Germany though, watching the first game v Mexico i thought there was something amiss, no fight or togetherness and a Team that bristled with youth in Brazil looked old. Goes without saying Low is a dead man walking.  Did the Sane thing cause a row?  To be fair the fella they took in his place Brandt looked excellent when they actually played him.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 27, 2018, 05:11:39 PM
South Korea won't beat Germany so all the above is a load of bollocks.

Good man Tony.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Ball Hopper on June 27, 2018, 05:14:52 PM
Just to help out, here are the scenarios for qualifying from Group E:

GROUP E

- Brazil need a point against Serbia to guarantee their place, and will also go through in second with a defeat if Switzerland also lose by the same margin or greater.

- Switzerland need a point against Costa Rica to secure their place but will also go through with a defeat if Serbia lose to Brazil. Should Switzerland lose by one goal and Serbia draw, it will go to goals scored. If the teams finish with identical records, then Switzerland would go through on head-to-head. If Switzerland are beaten by two goals, they can qualify only if Serbia lose.

- If both Brazil and Switzerland win or lose, they might need to be separated by disciplinary record or drawing of lots for top spot or second as the head-to-head is 1-1. This would happen, for instance, if Brazil won 2-1 and Switzerland won 2-0 for top spot, or for second position if Brazil lost 2-0 and Switzerland lost 1-0.

- Current yellow cards: Brazil 3, Switzerland 4

- Serbia will definitely qualify with a win, and could go through with a draw as noted.

- Costa Rica have been eliminated.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 27, 2018, 05:15:03 PM
Since there seems to be confusion as to the tie-breaking rules, here is how it works:

TIEBREAKERS

If two or more teams are level on points, they are separated using this tiebreaker system

1. Goal difference
2. Goals scored
3. Head-to-head points
4. Head-to-head goal difference
5. Head-to-head goals scored
6. Fair play points
7. Drawing of lots

FAIR PLAY SCORING SYSTEM

Yellow card: -1
Red card for two cautions: -3
Straight red card: -4
Yellow card and straight red card: -5

Exactly, H2H never comes before goal difference or goals scored.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: dec on June 27, 2018, 05:17:44 PM
Other than 1966 this is the first time that England have ever done better at a World Cup than Germany.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 27, 2018, 05:21:59 PM
It’s monents like this that make World Cups special. Absolutely beautiful.
Moments like that makes cup competitions special. A pity GAA heads at HQ think its best to stop underdogs from having their day in the sun.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Minder on June 27, 2018, 05:34:26 PM
So what are the possible second round, QF games for Blighty ? Isn’t the Colombia/Poland group the second round game ?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 27, 2018, 05:34:38 PM
Other than 1966 this is the first time that England have ever done better at a World Cup than Germany.

First time since 2004 that they’ve lasted longer in a tournament than Germany but that was the euros.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 27, 2018, 05:43:18 PM
So what are the possible second round, QF games for Blighty ? Isn’t the Colombia/Poland group the second round game ?

Yes. But Poland are gone and Colombia might not make it either.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 27, 2018, 05:55:45 PM
So what are the possible second round, QF games for Blighty ? Isn’t the Colombia/Poland group the second round game ?

Yes. But Poland are gone and Colombia might not make it either.

England are at the very bottom of the draw.  They will play either Senegal, Japan or Colombia in the last 16.  If they win their group and the last 16 game they will play either Mexico or Brazil in the quarters

If they come second in the group and win their last 16 game, they will play either Sweden or Switzerland in the quarters.

Updated. Seems the smart move is to come second in the group??
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 27, 2018, 05:58:42 PM
Funny old football world. The Swedes were very brónach after Kronos scored the last day.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 27, 2018, 06:30:03 PM
Funny old football world. The Swedes were very brónach after Kronos scored the last day.

Yeah a bit of schadenfreude as apparently a few German officials were not very gracious towards Sweden
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 27, 2018, 07:30:04 PM
Move over Kildare! I bigger news today than going to newbridge@Germany on the way home!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 27, 2018, 07:34:13 PM
Hard hit on Neymar there but did he have to really roll over 5 times
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 27, 2018, 07:44:09 PM
Neymar is a tool and his play acting is enough reason to want to see Brazil go out asap
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Therealdonald on June 27, 2018, 09:04:34 PM
The cameraman will be permanently pitching a tent during Monday's game...best women on the screen so far have been the luscious Brazilians and the fiery Mexicans....hope you've a splash guard for the TV screen Syf, think we'll all need it.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on June 27, 2018, 09:10:03 PM
Neymar wants everything to be about him, always has, he wants to be the star and has to do an outside of the foot flick when a simple pass is on. Neymar and gabriel jesus havent fired yet and if they do brazil will take a bit of beating.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on June 27, 2018, 09:18:23 PM
So what are the possible second round, QF games for Blighty ? Isn’t the Colombia/Poland group the second round game ?

England should want to lose, easier route to semis
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 27, 2018, 11:15:55 PM
The cameraman will be permanently pitching a tent during Monday's game...best women on the screen so far have been the luscious Brazilians and the fiery Mexicans....hope you've a splash guard for the TV screen Syf, think we'll all need it.
Brilliant. Laughed out loud at that one.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Rois on June 28, 2018, 12:17:51 AM
The cameraman will be permanently pitching a tent during Monday's game...best women on the screen so far have been the luscious Brazilians and the fiery Mexicans....hope you've a splash guard for the TV screen Syf, think we'll all need it.
Brilliant. Laughed out loud at that one.
Wild craic altogether  ::)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 28, 2018, 08:10:17 AM
Very interesting for the usual suspects. Italy didn't even make it. Germany are out. Argentina are poor. Brazil are underwhelming.
It's a great opportunity for a second rank team to win the tournament .
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: bennydorano on June 28, 2018, 08:17:15 AM
Bit of Zip in the Brazilians step last night, probably more so after the Germans made their exit. Definitely a big chance for a 2nd Tier nation to win it, Croatia still a huge 14/1. Uruguay impressive group winners who barely pick up column inches in any WC report - with one of the meanest defences and most potent strikeforces, have to be worth watching. Have England ew from early doors.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 08:17:32 AM
Very interesting for the usual suspects. Italy didn't even make it. Germany are out. Argentina are poor. Brazil are underwhelming.
It's a great opportunity for a second rank team to win the tournament .

If Belgium really are 'it' they will never have a better chance.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Billys Boots on June 28, 2018, 09:31:04 AM
Very interesting for the usual suspects. Italy didn't even make it. Germany are out. Argentina are poor. Brazil are underwhelming.
It's a great opportunity for a second rank team to win the tournament .

If Belgium really are 'it' they will never have a better chance.

The Tier-1 teams appear to have forgotten how to defend, and the Tier-2 teams appear to have forgotten how to attack.  Of them all, so far, only Brazil look like they can go through the gears ... sadly. 
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 28, 2018, 09:51:52 AM
Very interesting for the usual suspects. Italy didn't even make it. Germany are out. Argentina are poor. Brazil are underwhelming.
It's a great opportunity for a second rank team to win the tournament .

If Belgium really are 'it' they will never have a better chance.
Which team is Leicester and which is Tottenham ? I think Belgium have a few Spurs players
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 28, 2018, 09:58:08 AM
Very interesting for the usual suspects. Italy didn't even make it. Germany are out. Argentina are poor. Brazil are underwhelming.
It's a great opportunity for a second rank team to win the tournament .

If Belgium really are 'it' they will never have a better chance.

The Tier-1 teams appear to have forgotten how to defend, and the Tier-2 teams appear to have forgotten how to attack.  Of them all, so far, only Brazil look like they can go through the gears ... sadly.

Brazil look to be slowly getting into gear...very slowly admittedly.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 10:01:44 AM
Very interesting for the usual suspects. Italy didn't even make it. Germany are out. Argentina are poor. Brazil are underwhelming.
It's a great opportunity for a second rank team to win the tournament .

If Belgium really are 'it' they will never have a better chance.
Which team is Leicester and which is Tottenham ? I think Belgium have a few Spurs players

England may be Leicester. (Gulp)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 10:12:52 AM
I've been impressed with Croatia, Uruguay (although I get the feeling this is the wrong tournament for the dour, solid team winning 1-0), Belgium
I've been noting the potential to kick on, but haven't been overly impressive so far, of Brazil, Spain & France
The 'could make a run' teams for me are Portugal, Mexico, Columbia, Switzerland and England, teams which I didn't think had any chance, but with a fair wind have shown they have more than we thought.
Teams I can't see troubling us much more are Sweden, Russia, Denmark, Argentina and Japan/Senegal.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 28, 2018, 10:58:01 AM
Portugal v Mexico final 😜

https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/the-simpsons-predictions-fans-expect-a-world-cup-2018-final-of-mexico-vs-portugal-after-episode-sees-a3873216.html?amp
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 28, 2018, 11:14:51 AM
Apparently 4 of the last 5 winners have gone out in the group stages 4 years later
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 11:20:38 AM
Apparently 4 of the last 5 winners have gone out in the group stages 4 years later

That sounds right.

Germany this time around.
Spain were brutal in Brazil.
France imploded in South Africa with the bus strike and all.

I can remember what Italy did in 2010. I don't think Brazil went out early in 2006 though. Maybe it's the last 4 in a row?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 28, 2018, 11:27:27 AM
Apparently 4 of the last 5 winners have gone out in the group stages 4 years later

That sounds right.

Germany this time around.
Spain were brutal in Brazil.
France imploded in South Africa with the bus strike and all.

I can remember what Italy did in 2010. I don't think Brazil went out early in 2006 though. Maybe it's the last 4 in a row?
Looks like it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FIFA_World_Cup#Round_of_16
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 28, 2018, 11:32:25 AM
Apparently 4 of the last 5 winners have gone out in the group stages 4 years later

That sounds right.

Germany this time around.
Spain were brutal in Brazil.
France imploded in South Africa with the bus strike and all.

I can remember what Italy did in 2010. I don't think Brazil went out early in 2006 though. Maybe it's the last 4 in a row?

Four of the last five winners haven't got past the group stage at the next tournament:

France won in 1998, finished bottom of their group in 2002
Brazil won in 2002, went to the quarters in 2006
Italy won in 2006, finished bottom of their group in 2010
Spain won in 2010, finished third in their group in 2014
Germany won in 2014, finished bottom of their group in 2018
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 28, 2018, 12:10:58 PM
Looking forward to the Rissia - Spain game.  Putin's sour puss if Spain win.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Owenmoresider on June 28, 2018, 12:21:32 PM
Since there seems to be confusion as to the tie-breaking rules, here is how it works:

TIEBREAKERS

If two or more teams are level on points, they are separated using this tiebreaker system

1. Goal difference
2. Goals scored
3. Head-to-head points
4. Head-to-head goal difference
5. Head-to-head goals scored
6. Fair play points
7. Drawing of lots

FAIR PLAY SCORING SYSTEM

Yellow card: -1
Red card for two cautions: -3
Straight red card: -4
Yellow card and straight red card: -5
It's down to 6 and 7 if England and Belgium draw tonight yes?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 12:32:32 PM
Apparently 4 of the last 5 winners have gone out in the group stages 4 years later

That sounds right.

Germany this time around.
Spain were brutal in Brazil.
France imploded in South Africa with the bus strike and all.

I can remember what Italy did in 2010. I don't think Brazil went out early in 2006 though. Maybe it's the last 4 in a row?

Four of the last five winners haven't got past the group stage at the next tournament:

France won in 1998, finished bottom of their group in 2002
Brazil won in 2002, went to the quarters in 2006
Italy won in 2006, finished bottom of their group in 2010
Spain won in 2010, finished third in their group in 2014
Germany won in 2014, finished bottom of their group in 2018

you're right, I was mixing up France 2002 with France 2010. It was Italy that shat the eggs in 2010.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: johnnycool on June 28, 2018, 01:01:53 PM
Apparently 4 of the last 5 winners have gone out in the group stages 4 years later

That sounds right.

Germany this time around.
Spain were brutal in Brazil.
France imploded in South Africa with the bus strike and all.

I can remember what Italy did in 2010. I don't think Brazil went out early in 2006 though. Maybe it's the last 4 in a row?

Four of the last five winners haven't got past the group stage at the next tournament:

France won in 1998, finished bottom of their group in 2002
Brazil won in 2002, went to the quarters in 2006
Italy won in 2006, finished bottom of their group in 2010
Spain won in 2010, finished third in their group in 2014
Germany won in 2014, finished bottom of their group in 2018

you're right, I was mixing up France 2002 with France 2010. It was Italy that shat the eggs in 2010.

I wonder is it a lack of going through the rigors of a qualifying process that leaves them undercooked.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 01:04:23 PM
Apparently 4 of the last 5 winners have gone out in the group stages 4 years later

That sounds right.

Germany this time around.
Spain were brutal in Brazil.
France imploded in South Africa with the bus strike and all.

I can remember what Italy did in 2010. I don't think Brazil went out early in 2006 though. Maybe it's the last 4 in a row?

Four of the last five winners haven't got past the group stage at the next tournament:

France won in 1998, finished bottom of their group in 2002
Brazil won in 2002, went to the quarters in 2006
Italy won in 2006, finished bottom of their group in 2010
Spain won in 2010, finished third in their group in 2014
Germany won in 2014, finished bottom of their group in 2018

you're right, I was mixing up France 2002 with France 2010. It was Italy that shat the eggs in 2010.

I wonder is it a lack of going through the rigors of a qualifying process that leaves them undercooked.

Holders have to qualify now. Last few tournaments I think? Germany sailed through their group.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: johnnycool on June 28, 2018, 01:40:38 PM
Apparently 4 of the last 5 winners have gone out in the group stages 4 years later

That sounds right.

Germany this time around.
Spain were brutal in Brazil.
France imploded in South Africa with the bus strike and all.

I can remember what Italy did in 2010. I don't think Brazil went out early in 2006 though. Maybe it's the last 4 in a row?

Four of the last five winners haven't got past the group stage at the next tournament:

France won in 1998, finished bottom of their group in 2002
Brazil won in 2002, went to the quarters in 2006
Italy won in 2006, finished bottom of their group in 2010
Spain won in 2010, finished third in their group in 2014
Germany won in 2014, finished bottom of their group in 2018

you're right, I was mixing up France 2002 with France 2010. It was Italy that shat the eggs in 2010.

I wonder is it a lack of going through the rigors of a qualifying process that leaves them undercooked.

Holders have to qualify now. Last few tournaments I think? Germany sailed through their group.

Didn't know that.
Every day certainly is a school day.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 28, 2018, 01:52:51 PM
Since there seems to be confusion as to the tie-breaking rules, here is how it works:

TIEBREAKERS

If two or more teams are level on points, they are separated using this tiebreaker system

1. Goal difference
2. Goals scored
3. Head-to-head points
4. Head-to-head goal difference
5. Head-to-head goals scored
6. Fair play points
7. Drawing of lots

FAIR PLAY SCORING SYSTEM

Yellow card: -1
Red card for two cautions: -3
Straight red card: -4
Yellow card and straight red card: -5
It's down to 6 and 7 if England and Belgium draw tonight yes?

Correct
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 28, 2018, 02:04:08 PM
I think England might feck it up early on because they're looking too far ahead. Let's hope so anyway.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 28, 2018, 02:31:20 PM
I think England might feck it up early on because they're looking too far ahead. Let's hope so anyway.
What? Do you not read papers? Be on the internet? Watch the news?

IT'S
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Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 28, 2018, 02:56:13 PM
Senegal's national anthem is like something out of a Marx brothers film😂
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 28, 2018, 03:21:53 PM
Colombia bring a lot of beauty to this World cup.





Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 28, 2018, 03:32:13 PM
Beauty and then you have these fellas


Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dire Ear on June 28, 2018, 03:42:27 PM
Colombia bring a lot of beauty to this World cup.






Can't cook but.......
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on June 28, 2018, 04:53:15 PM
Senegal out because they received more yellow cards than Japan.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 28, 2018, 05:04:10 PM
Teams played today like they didn't want to win... or had no self belief. Japan and Senegal.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 28, 2018, 05:17:14 PM
Intriguing for England.  Go to win the group and play Japan but then Brazil or Mexico in the quarters.  Or try to finish second to play Colombia (probably a better team than Japan), then Sweden or Switzerland?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 28, 2018, 05:26:25 PM
I think England might feck it up early on because they're looking too far ahead. Let's hope so anyway.
What? Do you not read papers? Be on the internet? Watch the news?

IT'S
COMING
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Can't wait to see Keano in action when Engerland go out.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on June 28, 2018, 05:35:06 PM
Places at the world cup from the different confederations should be based on the co-efficient of that respective confederation. Much like Champions League places. 4 Eng, 4 Spain 1 Ireland etc. So if European and South American teams do well - then more spots for teams from those confederations. Am I right in saying not one African team made the last 16?
Of course, South America gave us Panama, so they should be just banned from even entering qualifying again.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Hound on June 28, 2018, 05:36:56 PM
Teams played today like they didn't want to win... or had no self belief. Japan and Senegal.
The Senegal lad on the line for the Colombia game was feckin hilarious!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2018, 06:02:12 PM
Last minute injury time winner and stuffing Panama 6-1 has propelled England into favourites it seems by the English press! Belgium will rest players tonight and at worst get a draw! Watch out for a few yellow cards late on by the English if it’s still a draw, would drop them into second place!

Been listening to various sport channels on radio and the amount of ‘we’ from Irish, so called Irish, Welsh and Scottish commentators would sicken your hole!!

England have a team to win it but the hype that they have been reigning in these past few tournaments is surfacing and all based on 6-1 win over Panama!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 28, 2018, 06:10:34 PM
Intriguing for England.  Go to win the group and play Japan but then Brazil or Mexico in the quarters.  Or try to finish second to play Colombia (probably a better team than Japan), then Sweden or Switzerland?
Reckon we'll see plenty of yellow cards in the last ten minutes if it's still a draw..!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 28, 2018, 06:14:58 PM
Places at the world cup from the different confederations should be based on the co-efficient of that respective confederation. Much like Champions League places. 4 Eng, 4 Spain 1 Ireland etc. So if European and South American teams do well - then more spots for teams from those confederations. Am I right in saying not one African team made the last 16?
Of course, South America gave us Panama, so they should be just banned from even entering qualifying again.

Geography not ur strong point  :)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: dec on June 28, 2018, 06:23:24 PM
Places at the world cup from the different confederations should be based on the co-efficient of that respective confederation. Much like Champions League places. 4 Eng, 4 Spain 1 Ireland etc. So if European and South American teams do well - then more spots for teams from those confederations. Am I right in saying not one African team made the last 16?
Of course, South America gave us Panama, so they should be just banned from even entering qualifying again.

Geography not ur strong point  :)

Panama used to be part of Columbia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_Panama_from_Colombia
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 28, 2018, 06:25:09 PM
Intriguing for England.  Go to win the group and play Japan but then Brazil or Mexico in the quarters.  Or try to finish second to play Colombia (probably a better team than Japan), then Sweden or Switzerland?
Reckon we'll see plenty of yellow cards in the last ten minutes if it's still a draw..!

Thinking same. 0-0 written all over this game and list of reserves line up to get black cards
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 06:26:54 PM
Intriguing for England.  Go to win the group and play Japan but then Brazil or Mexico in the quarters.  Or try to finish second to play Colombia (probably a better team than Japan), then Sweden or Switzerland?
Reckon we'll see plenty of yellow cards in the last ten minutes if it's still a draw..!

Thinking same. 0-0 written all over this game and list of reserves line up to get black cards
Is Fellani in the Belgium squad? He’s sharpening his elbows as we speak.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 28, 2018, 06:32:24 PM
I would have thought Mignolet would have been the first name on the Belgium team sheet tonight... ;D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 28, 2018, 06:54:02 PM
Intriguing for England.  Go to win the group and play Japan but then Brazil or Mexico in the quarters.  Or try to finish second to play Colombia (probably a better team than Japan), then Sweden or Switzerland?
They should do it tactically. Sweden and Switzerland are nothing to write home about.
Switzerland don't even have 11 decent players.


It's like the old GAA joke

-Paddy, we're taking you off
-But we only have 13 players, boss
-Come off anyway
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2018, 07:17:54 PM
Intriguing for England.  Go to win the group and play Japan but then Brazil or Mexico in the quarters.  Or try to finish second to play Colombia (probably a better team than Japan), then Sweden or Switzerland?
Reckon we'll see plenty of yellow cards in the last ten minutes if it's still a draw..!

Eh? I wonder do you post after everyone of my posts? For someone who blocks me you’ve a knack for it
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 28, 2018, 07:21:17 PM
Handy yellow card for Belgium there. They have two more than England now.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 28, 2018, 07:24:39 PM
Handy yellow card for Belgium there. They have two more than England now.

stopped watching it for a while there. Has England more yellows now or Belgium?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 28, 2018, 07:26:16 PM
Handy yellow card for Belgium there. They have two more than England now.

stopped watching it for a while there. Has England more yellows now or Belgium?
Belgium have 2 more so England would top the group because of fair play rules.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 28, 2018, 07:27:41 PM
ok thanks
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 28, 2018, 07:30:28 PM
You're welcome.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Minder on June 28, 2018, 07:31:13 PM
What a fckn farce
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 28, 2018, 07:43:17 PM
Panama are one up v Tunisia
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 28, 2018, 07:44:16 PM
I will re-watch this England game again tonight if i have any trouble sleeping.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 28, 2018, 08:08:51 PM
Why did that idiot do that? though doesnt really matter who England meet it will end in tears again.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2018, 08:15:51 PM
Man U lads are doing well
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 28, 2018, 08:20:27 PM
What a bizarre spectacle.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: screenexile on June 28, 2018, 08:22:23 PM
That Januzaj looks a decent player somebody should sign him up!! 😂😂
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 28, 2018, 08:23:36 PM
Was that a deliberate miss by Rashford?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on June 28, 2018, 08:31:38 PM
England get Columbia in the last 16 if it stays 1-0 to Belgium. Then if they beat Colombia a quarter final against Sweden or Switzerland. That is followed by a semi against Croatia or Spain. The  3 best teams left in the competition imho Belgium, France and Brazil would be in the other half of the draw.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 28, 2018, 08:32:19 PM
Was that a deliberate miss by Rashford?
No he's just another overhyped English player
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 28, 2018, 08:33:43 PM
England get Columbia in the last 16 if it stays 1-0 to Belgium. Then if they beat Colombia a quarter final against Sweden or Switzerland. That is followed by a semi against Croatia or Spain. The  3 best teams left in the competition imho Belgium, France and Brazil would be in the other half of the draw.

Croatia are one of the three best teams.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on June 28, 2018, 08:40:14 PM
Batshuayi kicking the ball off the post and into his face is one of the moments of the tournament so far. :P
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 28, 2018, 08:43:35 PM
England deserve to lose against Colombia that would show up all this avoiding brazil for the shit it is.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 28, 2018, 08:52:53 PM
Wouldnt matter what route England get, not challengers at all. Useless.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 28, 2018, 08:55:37 PM
Batshuayi kicking the ball off the post and into his face is one of the moments of the tournament so far. :P


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Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: HiMucker on June 28, 2018, 08:58:11 PM
Since 1990 England have only beaten Denmark and Ecuador in knockout games according to the pundits.  They scraped a win against Tunisia, pumped a pub team, and were beat by the first decent side they have met.  Without any bias at all ( :-X :-X ) I'll be amazed if they beat Colombia.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 28, 2018, 09:10:18 PM
Since 1990 England have only beaten Denmark and Ecuador in knockout games according to the pundits.  They scraped a win against Tunisia, pumped a pub team, and were beat by the first decent side they have met.  Without any bias at all ( :-X :-X ) I'll be amazed if they beat Colombia.
I recall them beating Spain. On ITV the lads in the studio are convinced they will reach their first World cup semi final since 1990 we'll see.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: weareros on June 28, 2018, 09:16:06 PM
Since 1990 England have only beaten Denmark and Ecuador in knockout games according to the pundits.  They scraped a win against Tunisia, pumped a pub team, and were beat by the first decent side they have met.  Without any bias at all ( :-X :-X ) I'll be amazed if they beat Colombia.

Beat both Belgium (last min goal) and Cameroon (fluked a win) in 1990.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: thewobbler on June 28, 2018, 09:29:27 PM
RTE pundits spent 5 minutes slamming England’s midfield for their technique and creativity. Then 5 minutes talking up Fellaini for being a 6’ 4” elbow.

No problems with the first point. But f**k’s sake lads be consistent.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Solo_run on June 28, 2018, 09:33:51 PM
I live in England and I was quite concerned about how quiet their expectations were. I thought the team might benefit from the lack of pressure placed upon them. They then pump two shit teams and all of a sudden football is coming home after beating two piss poor teams. Then of course they are beat by the Mayo of the International football world and it doesn’t matter - they are still going to win the WC  ::)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: bennydorano on June 28, 2018, 09:55:30 PM
Don't think England went out of their way to win or lose, bit of a que sera sera attitude about the whole thing, Belgium's reserves were a bit better than England's. Columbia are poor enough.

Do you not think The whole 'it's coming home thing' is generally a pisstake?? Non-English people really revel in the opportunity to bash them for it, but I mostly think it's a big f**king joke  tbh - until the 1st knockout round anyway.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 28, 2018, 09:56:16 PM
RTE pundits spent 5 minutes slamming England’s midfield for their technique and creativity. Then 5 minutes talking up Fellaini for being a 6’ 4” elbow.

No problems with the first point. But f**k’s sake lads be consistent.

The difference is Belgium have Eden Hazzard and Dries Mertens to go with him while England have Jordan Henderson and Jesse Lingard..
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: shark on June 28, 2018, 10:02:03 PM
Since 1990 England have only beaten Denmark and Ecuador in knockout games according to the pundits.  They scraped a win against Tunisia, pumped a pub team, and were beat by the first decent side they have met.  Without any bias at all ( :-X :-X ) I'll be amazed if they beat Colombia.
I recall them beating Spain. On ITV the lads in the studio are convinced they will reach their first World cup semi final since 1990 we'll see.

Spain win was Euro 96. On penalties.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: HiMucker on June 28, 2018, 10:09:37 PM
Since 1990 England have only beaten Denmark and Ecuador in knockout games according to the pundits.  They scraped a win against Tunisia, pumped a pub team, and were beat by the first decent side they have met.  Without any bias at all ( :-X :-X ) I'll be amazed if they beat Colombia.
I recall them beating Spain. On ITV the lads in the studio are convinced they will reach their first World cup semi final since 1990 we'll see.
Spain win was Euro 96. On penalties.
Yeah.  I think they are referring to out and out wins.  It's an abysmal record.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 28, 2018, 10:54:23 PM
Since 1990 England have only beaten Denmark and Ecuador in knockout games according to the pundits.  They scraped a win against Tunisia, pumped a pub team, and were beat by the first decent side they have met.  Without any bias at all ( :-X :-X ) I'll be amazed if they beat Colombia.
I recall them beating Spain. On ITV the lads in the studio are convinced they will reach their first World cup semi final since 1990 we'll see.
Spain win was Euro 96. On penalties.
Yeah.  I think they are referring to out and out wins.  It's an abysmal record.
EPL started in 92
Soccer in Engerland is about money, not developing the national team
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 28, 2018, 11:05:28 PM
Since 1990 England have only beaten Denmark and Ecuador in knockout games according to the pundits.  They scraped a win against Tunisia, pumped a pub team, and were beat by the first decent side they have met.  Without any bias at all ( :-X :-X ) I'll be amazed if they beat Colombia.
I recall them beating Spain. On ITV the lads in the studio are convinced they will reach their first World cup semi final since 1990 we'll see.
Spain win was Euro 96. On penalties.
Yeah.  I think they are referring to out and out wins.  It's an abysmal record.
EPL started in 92
Soccer in Engerland is about money, not developing the national team

England’s propensity for failure at international tournaments is not a product of the sky years.  They lost to the US in the 50s, and after 1966 at home they’ve done very little. Euro 88 was disastrous for them. They’ve always been suspicious of Johnny Foreigner and his sneaky ways, and it trips them up again and again.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 28, 2018, 11:24:59 PM
Since 1990 England have only beaten Denmark and Ecuador in knockout games according to the pundits.  They scraped a win against Tunisia, pumped a pub team, and were beat by the first decent side they have met.  Without any bias at all ( :-X :-X ) I'll be amazed if they beat Colombia.
I recall them beating Spain. On ITV the lads in the studio are convinced they will reach their first World cup semi final since 1990 we'll see.
Spain win was Euro 96. On penalties.
Yeah.  I think they are referring to out and out wins.  It's an abysmal record.
EPL started in 92
Soccer in Engerland is about money, not developing the national team

England’s propensity for failure at international tournaments is not a product of the sky years.  They lost to the US in the 50s, and after 1966 at home they’ve done very little. Euro 88 was disastrous for them. They’ve always been suspicious of Johnny Foreigner and his sneaky ways, and it trips them up again and again.

There is more to it than that. England has been surpassed by France and Spain since the EPL began.
They do not care about developing English talent. They just buy from wherever.

There are EPL players at the World Cup with the following teams : Egypt, Portugal, Spain, Morocco, Iran, France, Australia, Peru, Denmark, Argentina, Iceland, Croatia, Nigeria, Brazil, Switzerland, Costa Rica, Serbia, Germany, Mexico, Sweden, south Korea, Belgium, Tunisia,Poland, Senegal, Colombia, Japan
That is 27/32

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 28, 2018, 11:32:46 PM
How many English players playing outside of EPL?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 28, 2018, 11:39:38 PM
How many English players playing outside of EPL?
None according to the guide I am looking at
I don't think any other team is 100% domestic league. Not even Panama
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on June 28, 2018, 11:42:33 PM
That Januzaj looks a decent player somebody should sign him up!! 😂😂

I remember when he first emerged at united, I thought he was going to be a great player. Then he went out on loan and never came back. Now he is scoring a cracking goal for Belgium at the world cup.

England if they beat Colombia should make the semi final and maybe even the final.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 28, 2018, 11:54:24 PM
That Januzaj looks a decent player somebody should sign him up!! 😂😂

I remember when he first emerged at united, I thought he was going to be a great player. Then he went out on loan and never came back. Now he is scoring a cracking goal for Belgium at the world cup.

England if they beat Colombia should make the semi final and maybe even the final.

I think people are mad if they think there's much of a gap between England and Columbia, Sweden or Switzerland. All three are fully capable of beating a limited English side.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Therealdonald on June 29, 2018, 12:06:25 AM
Who are the tournament's likely winners now?

I can't see past the winners of France - Argentina. Whoever wins that will have their tails seriously up.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Hardy on June 29, 2018, 12:49:31 AM
From a betting point of view Uruguay at 22/1, 7/2 for semi is an attractive bet.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 29, 2018, 06:07:59 AM
How many English players playing outside of EPL?

Guardian

"England still made eight changes – to Belgium’s nine – and in the process sucked the life out of their starting 11. Of England’s outfield 10 only three were regulars in their Premier League teams. "
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 29, 2018, 07:09:09 AM
England are not a good side but they have a decent chance of getting to the semifinals. Their fans are always delusional.....just like some on here in relation to Man Utd, Liverpool etc.....who can forget the 'white Pele' reference to Rooney....now the DC hookers dream😜. Still wouldn't be surprised if Colombia beat them...and maybe on penalties 😂😂
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 29, 2018, 07:37:26 AM
England are not a good side but they have a decent chance of getting to the semifinals. Their fans are always delusional.....just like some on here in relation to Man Utd, Liverpool etc.....who can forget the 'white Pele' reference to Rooney....now the DC hookers dream😜. Still wouldn't be surprised if Colombia beat them...and maybe on penalties 😂😂
It's a tournament, not a league. If England got a bit of luck they could do very well.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: From the Bunker on June 29, 2018, 09:13:33 AM
How many English players playing outside of EPL?

The money is in the Premiership! This means that players are unlikely to move unless Barca or Real come knocking. PSG, Juventus and Bayern to a lesser degree. Like back in the '90's all Italian players played in Serie A, that was where the money was.

This English team is one of the least experienced for decades. The hype at the best is nothing on a par to other tournaments. They may be the surprise package of the Tournament.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 29, 2018, 09:23:32 AM
How many English players playing outside of EPL?

The money is in the Premiership! This means that players are unlikely to move unless Barca or Real come knocking. PSG, Juventus and Bayern to a lesser degree. Like back in the '90's all Italian players played in Serie A, that was where the money was.

This English team is one of the least experienced for decades. The hype at the best is nothing on a par to other tournaments. They may be the surprise package of the Tournament.

So would Bale be the best 'Home' player ? You've mentioned 5 teams that don't have one English player,  that can compete year on year for the CL and don't have an interest in any of the English squad, but the players will stay in the EPL because the money is better?

Kane would make a fortune if he left Spurs to any of those top teams mentioned, I just think the top teams don't think they are good enough, barring Kane I'd say England are muck
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on June 29, 2018, 11:46:20 AM
Im confused when England lose to Colombia who will they then meet in the Semi Final  ;)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 29, 2018, 12:05:10 PM
That Januzaj looks a decent player somebody should sign him up!! 😂😂

I remember when he first emerged at united, I thought he was going to be a great player. Then he went out on loan and never came back. Now he is scoring a cracking goal for Belgium at the world cup.

England if they beat Colombia should make the semi final and maybe even the final.
I think people are mad if they think there's much of a gap between England and Columbia, Sweden or Switzerland. All three are fully capable of beating a limited English side.
Sweden were second in their qualifying group. Switzerland only have 8 players. Schaer, Seferovic and Behrami are not good enough for this level and have been slated in the home press.

Saying any of the 3 is capable of beating England is like saying Ros are capable of beating Galway. Comes with a huge standard deviation.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 29, 2018, 12:24:53 PM
No games today. Guess I'm gonna have to talk to the wife now tonight so...
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 29, 2018, 12:39:12 PM
I'm sure she'll be just as annoyed  ;)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: GJL on June 29, 2018, 12:44:02 PM
Turned on SS news last night just before 10pm and they were deep in a serious discussion about who England were likely to meet in the final. So far they have beaten Tunisia and Panama. LOL they will never learn.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 29, 2018, 12:50:21 PM
That Januzaj looks a decent player somebody should sign him up!! 😂😂

I remember when he first emerged at united, I thought he was going to be a great player. Then he went out on loan and never came back. Now he is scoring a cracking goal for Belgium at the world cup.

England if they beat Colombia should make the semi final and maybe even the final.
I think people are mad if they think there's much of a gap between England and Columbia, Sweden or Switzerland. All three are fully capable of beating a limited English side.
Sweden were second in their qualifying group. Switzerland only have 8 players. Schaer, Seferovic and Behrami are not good enough for this level and have been slated in the home press.

Saying any of the 3 is capable of beating England is like saying Ros are capable of beating Galway. Comes with a huge standard deviation.

Sweden came out of a group that included both France and the Netherlands, managing wins over both. They then got past Italy in qualifying and have just topped a group that included the reigning champions.

Sometimes what you don't say (especially so in your particular case) is as/more important than what you do.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 29, 2018, 01:16:18 PM
That Januzaj looks a decent player somebody should sign him up!! 😂😂

I remember when he first emerged at united, I thought he was going to be a great player. Then he went out on loan and never came back. Now he is scoring a cracking goal for Belgium at the world cup.

England if they beat Colombia should make the semi final and maybe even the final.
I think people are mad if they think there's much of a gap between England and Columbia, Sweden or Switzerland. All three are fully capable of beating a limited English side.
Sweden were second in their qualifying group. Switzerland only have 8 players. Schaer, Seferovic and Behrami are not good enough for this level and have been slated in the home press.

Saying any of the 3 is capable of beating England is like saying Ros are capable of beating Galway. Comes with a huge standard deviation.

Sweden came out of a group that included both France and the Netherlands, managing wins over both. They then got past Italy in qualifying and have just topped a group that included the reigning champions.

Sometimes what you don't say (especially so in your particular case) is as/more important than what you do.

Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed?

Sweden are 24th in the FIFA world rankings. England are 12th. Belgium are third.
Holland and Italy are not in a great place currently either.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 29, 2018, 01:19:17 PM
I'm not sure the FIFA rankings are a great indicator. That said, on the field you wouldn't say Sweden are frightening, but they are well capable of beating England. Let's be honest, any of the 15 other teams left are capable of beating England. But it's also probably true that this is a cup competition, England seem to have a good spirit and a goalscorer who is having a lucky streak, so on any given day England could easily beat any of the other 15 teams too.

There hasn't been an absolute standout team so far, in my view. Belgium, Brazil (at times) and Croatia probably the most impressive so far.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 29, 2018, 01:37:55 PM
I'm not sure the FIFA rankings are a great indicator. That said, on the field you wouldn't say Sweden are frightening, but they are well capable of beating England. Let's be honest, any of the 15 other teams left are capable of beating England. But it's also probably true that this is a cup competition, England seem to have a good spirit and a goalscorer who is having a lucky streak, so on any given day England could easily beat any of the other 15 teams too.

There hasn't been an absolute standout team so far, in my view. Belgium, Brazil (at times) and Croatia probably the most impressive so far.
Spain have also been decent
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 29, 2018, 01:38:37 PM
I'm not sure the FIFA rankings are a great indicator. That said, on the field you wouldn't say Sweden are frightening, but they are well capable of beating England. Let's be honest, any of the 15 other teams left are capable of beating England. But it's also probably true that this is a cup competition, England seem to have a good spirit and a goalscorer who is having a lucky streak, so on any given day England could easily beat any of the other 15 teams too.

There hasn't been an absolute standout team so far, in my view. Belgium, Brazil (at times) and Croatia probably the most impressive so far.
Spain have also been decent

They were excellent attacking wise versus Portugal, but I was disappointed with them v Morocco and Iran.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 29, 2018, 01:39:57 PM
One of England, Colombia, Sweden or Switzerland will be in a WC semi final.  I'd say they all think they have a great chance of doing that.  England haven't been seriously tested yet.  Panama were the weakest team in the competition by a distance (apart from Germany ;)) and they stumbled past Tunisia.  They could chin Colombia or get humped 3-0. 

The competition is still wide open.  I haven't seen an outstanding team yet.  Croatia probably the best so far.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 29, 2018, 01:42:18 PM
One of England, Colombia, Sweden or Switzerland will be in a WC semi final.  I'd say they all think they have a great chance of doing that.  England haven't been seriously tested yet.  Panama were the weakest team in the competition by a distance (apart from Germany ;)) and they stumbled past Tunisia.  They could chin Colombia or get humped 3-0. 

The competition is still wide open.  I haven't seen an outstanding team yet.  Croatia probably the best so far.

Is it Croatia or Serbia your man Legolas plays for?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trueblue1234 on June 29, 2018, 01:45:21 PM
One of England, Colombia, Sweden or Switzerland will be in a WC semi final.  I'd say they all think they have a great chance of doing that.  England haven't been seriously tested yet.  Panama were the weakest team in the competition by a distance (apart from Germany ;)) and they stumbled past Tunisia.  They could chin Colombia or get humped 3-0. 

The competition is still wide open.  I haven't seen an outstanding team yet.  Croatia probably the best so far.

Is it Croatia or Serbia your man Legolas plays for?

Mirkwood
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 29, 2018, 01:46:38 PM
All that aside, some cracking games lined up for the first knockout stage.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 29, 2018, 01:59:20 PM
All that aside, some cracking games lined up for the first knockout stage.

It's hard to see a game I'm not looking forward to in fairness. France Argentina will be a contest to see which of them can actually start performing like they should be able to, Uruguay Portugal might be very defensive, but intriguing, Spain Russia should be very open, Croatia Denmark will be very interesting, Brazil Mexico should be open and entertaining, Belgium Japan the same, Sweden Switzerland should be sneaky good. Two teams that wouldn't get your pulse racing, but they should be a good match and Switzerland impressed me a bit more than i thought they would. And then of course Colombia v England. I hope Rodriguez is able to go, but it's probably unlikely.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: johnnycool on June 29, 2018, 02:41:07 PM
All that aside, some cracking games lined up for the first knockout stage.

Saturday June 30
3pm: France v Argentina, Kazan
7pm: Uruguay v Portugal, Sochi

Sunday July 1
3pm: Spain v Russia, Moscow
7pm: Croatia v Denmark, Nizhny Novgorod

Monday July 2
3pm: Brazil v Mexico, Samara
7pm: Belgium v Japan, Rostov-on-Don

Tuesday July 3
3pm: Sweden v Switzerland, Saint Petersburg
7pm: Colombia v England, Moscow

What odds on some dodgy referee/VAR decisions on Sunday in Moscow?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: ardtole on June 29, 2018, 02:57:30 PM
Was thinking the same myself jc. Spain have been relatively poor and I can definitely see the Russians getting the benefit of the doubt. Worth a small bet anyway.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: pbat on June 29, 2018, 03:08:09 PM
Take Harry Kane out and they are very average. If they somehow make the Semi's Harry will meet the same fate as Salah in the championships league final while Sergio looks on innocently.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 29, 2018, 03:08:50 PM
All that aside, some cracking games lined up for the first knockout stage.

Saturday June 30
3pm: France v Argentina, Kazan
7pm: Uruguay v Portugal, Sochi


I've no skin in either game but I can't help thinking that Argentina v Uruguay would be a tasty quarter final
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 29, 2018, 03:11:27 PM
Take Harry Kane out and they are very average. If they somehow make the Semi's Harry will meet the same fate as Salah in the championships league final while Sergio looks on innocently.

Even Harry Kane hasn't been pulling up trees so far. I know he's scored 5 goals, but 2 penalties, a tap in rebound and a deflection off his heel aren't exactly a lad flying. His second goal v Tunisia was great instinct alright.

That said, it's great to be getting goals like that, so he should be full of confidence.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 29, 2018, 03:16:42 PM
All that aside, some cracking games lined up for the first knockout stage.

Saturday June 30
3pm: France v Argentina, Kazan
7pm: Uruguay v Portugal, Sochi


I've no skin in either game but I can't help thinking that Argentina v Uruguay would be a tasty quarter final
The winner to receive the River Plate plate.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 29, 2018, 03:28:28 PM
All that aside, some cracking games lined up for the first knockout stage.

It's hard to see a game I'm not looking forward to in fairness. France Argentina will be a contest to see which of them can actually start performing like they should be able to, Uruguay Portugal might be very defensive, but intriguing, Spain Russia should be very open, Croatia Denmark will be very interesting, Brazil Mexico should be open and entertaining, Belgium Japan the same, Sweden Switzerland should be sneaky good. Two teams that wouldn't get your pulse racing, but they should be a good match and Switzerland impressed me a bit more than i thought they would. And then of course Colombia v England. I hope Rodriguez is able to go, but it's probably unlikely.

The problem is Argentina are performing at their level. They scraped through qualifying and only did so after Messi came back from retirement. The squad isn't good. At all. Mascherano playing centre mid is a terrible idea. All his inspirational, heart on the sleeve stuff is nothing if he's only making up for his own mistakes.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 29, 2018, 03:31:24 PM
All that aside, some cracking games lined up for the first knockout stage.

It's hard to see a game I'm not looking forward to in fairness. France Argentina will be a contest to see which of them can actually start performing like they should be able to, Uruguay Portugal might be very defensive, but intriguing, Spain Russia should be very open, Croatia Denmark will be very interesting, Brazil Mexico should be open and entertaining, Belgium Japan the same, Sweden Switzerland should be sneaky good. Two teams that wouldn't get your pulse racing, but they should be a good match and Switzerland impressed me a bit more than i thought they would. And then of course Colombia v England. I hope Rodriguez is able to go, but it's probably unlikely.

The problem is Argentina are performing at their level. They scraped through qualifying and only did so after Messi came back from retirement. The squad isn't good. At all. Mascherano playing centre mid is a terrible idea. All his inspirational, heart on the sleeve stuff is nothing if he's only making up for his own mistakes.

That's true in a general sense, defensively they are a mess, but I don't think Higuain, Messi, Aguero, Di Maria have done as much in an attacking sense as you would expect. But yes, they may not have much more to go, you are right.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 29, 2018, 04:03:58 PM
All that aside, some cracking games lined up for the first knockout stage.

It's hard to see a game I'm not looking forward to in fairness. France Argentina will be a contest to see which of them can actually start performing like they should be able to, Uruguay Portugal might be very defensive, but intriguing, Spain Russia should be very open, Croatia Denmark will be very interesting, Brazil Mexico should be open and entertaining, Belgium Japan the same, Sweden Switzerland should be sneaky good. Two teams that wouldn't get your pulse racing, but they should be a good match and Switzerland impressed me a bit more than i thought they would. And then of course Colombia v England. I hope Rodriguez is able to go, but it's probably unlikely.

The problem is Argentina are performing at their level. They scraped through qualifying and only did so after Messi came back from retirement. The squad isn't good. At all. Mascherano playing centre mid is a terrible idea. All his inspirational, heart on the sleeve stuff is nothing if he's only making up for his own mistakes.

That's true in a general sense, defensively they are a mess, but I don't think Higuain, Messi, Aguero, Di Maria have done as much in an attacking sense as you would expect. But yes, they may not have much more to go, you are right.

Tim Vickery, the BBC's South American football correspondent, was on the radio saying that Argentina's problems didn't surprise him.  They haven't played well since the last WC, domestic football is a mess and their academy system has broken down and they don't seem to be producing good young players.  Pavon and Meza, two players who still play in Argentina, have been tipped as the next big thing but they've looked a bit out of their depth at this level.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on June 29, 2018, 04:10:54 PM
Latest Odds from Ladbrokes (to win the World Cup - e/w 1/3 the odds if team gets to final):  England joint 3rd favourites though this may reflect where the money is going in UK.

Brazil  7/2
Spain  4/1
Belgium  7/1
England  7/1
France  8/1
Croatia  12/1
Argentina  14/1
Colombia  20/1
Portugal  20/1
Uruguay  20/1
Switzerland  40/1
Russia  50/1
Mexico  66/1
Sweden  66/1
Denmark  80/1
Japan  150/1
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 29, 2018, 04:37:25 PM
Utterly insane that England have better odds than France.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 29, 2018, 04:51:02 PM
Utterly insane that England have better odds than France.
It's Ladbrokes,  Syf.
If you ever place a bet with a Cork bookmaker, Cork will be shorter odds.  Local money tends to be skewed to the local team.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on June 29, 2018, 04:55:50 PM
All that aside, some cracking games lined up for the first knockout stage.

It's hard to see a game I'm not looking forward to in fairness. France Argentina will be a contest to see which of them can actually start performing like they should be able to, Uruguay Portugal might be very defensive, but intriguing, Spain Russia should be very open, Croatia Denmark will be very interesting, Brazil Mexico should be open and entertaining, Belgium Japan the same, Sweden Switzerland should be sneaky good. Two teams that wouldn't get your pulse racing, but they should be a good match and Switzerland impressed me a bit more than i thought they would. And then of course Colombia v England. I hope Rodriguez is able to go, but it's probably unlikely.

The problem is Argentina are performing at their level. They scraped through qualifying and only did so after Messi came back from retirement. The squad isn't good. At all. Mascherano playing centre mid is a terrible idea. All his inspirational, heart on the sleeve stuff is nothing if he's only making up for his own mistakes.

That's true in a general sense, defensively they are a mess, but I don't think Higuain, Messi, Aguero, Di Maria have done as much in an attacking sense as you would expect. But yes, they may not have much more to go, you are right.

How come Dybala isn’t getting a sniff?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 29, 2018, 05:23:02 PM
Utterly insane that England have better odds than France.
It's Ladbrokes,  Syf.
If you ever place a bet with a Cork bookmaker, Cork will be shorter odds.  Local money tends to be skewed to the local team.

That really doesn't happen anymore, all football betting prices are dictated from the far East.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: dec on June 29, 2018, 05:30:48 PM
Utterly insane that England have better odds than France.

Not really, England are in the easier half of the draw.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on June 29, 2018, 05:58:31 PM
All that aside, some cracking games lined up for the first knockout stage.

It's hard to see a game I'm not looking forward to in fairness. France Argentina will be a contest to see which of them can actually start performing like they should be able to, Uruguay Portugal might be very defensive, but intriguing, Spain Russia should be very open, Croatia Denmark will be very interesting, Brazil Mexico should be open and entertaining, Belgium Japan the same, Sweden Switzerland should be sneaky good. Two teams that wouldn't get your pulse racing, but they should be a good match and Switzerland impressed me a bit more than i thought they would. And then of course Colombia v England. I hope Rodriguez is able to go, but it's probably unlikely.

The problem is Argentina are performing at their level. They scraped through qualifying and only did so after Messi came back from retirement. The squad isn't good. At all. Mascherano playing centre mid is a terrible idea. All his inspirational, heart on the sleeve stuff is nothing if he's only making up for his own mistakes.

That's true in a general sense, defensively they are a mess, but I don't think Higuain, Messi, Aguero, Di Maria have done as much in an attacking sense as you would expect. But yes, they may not have much more to go, you are right.

How come Dybala isn’t getting a sniff?

The manager prefers to give playing time to players like Meza who can't play. I would play Dybala Messi Aguero and Higuain in the same team as they are Argentinas best players. They don't have many good players in midfield or defence.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 29, 2018, 06:25:30 PM
Belgium tempting at 7/1  God only knows how England are same price. Should be bout 20/1
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: thewobbler on June 29, 2018, 06:41:40 PM
All that aside, some cracking games lined up for the first knockout stage.

It's hard to see a game I'm not looking forward to in fairness. France Argentina will be a contest to see which of them can actually start performing like they should be able to, Uruguay Portugal might be very defensive, but intriguing, Spain Russia should be very open, Croatia Denmark will be very interesting, Brazil Mexico should be open and entertaining, Belgium Japan the same, Sweden Switzerland should be sneaky good. Two teams that wouldn't get your pulse racing, but they should be a good match and Switzerland impressed me a bit more than i thought they would. And then of course Colombia v England. I hope Rodriguez is able to go, but it's probably unlikely.

The problem is Argentina are performing at their level. They scraped through qualifying and only did so after Messi came back from retirement. The squad isn't good. At all. Mascherano playing centre mid is a terrible idea. All his inspirational, heart on the sleeve stuff is nothing if he's only making up for his own mistakes.

That's true in a general sense, defensively they are a mess, but I don't think Higuain, Messi, Aguero, Di Maria have done as much in an attacking sense as you would expect. But yes, they may not have much more to go, you are right.

How come Dybala isn’t getting a sniff?

The manager prefers to give playing time to players like Meza who can't play. I would play Dybala Messi Aguero and Higuain in the same team as they are Argentinas best players. They don't have many good players in midfield or defence.

Even if you’d Keane and Viera in midfield you’d get your arse handed to you on a plate with that line up. And Argentina have neither, nothing close.


Re England’s price. They just qualified from the same group as Belgium with a nigh-on identical record (Janujaz scorer a belter, Rashford missed an easier chance, and the presence of Danny Welbeck tells you how much England were bothered), and clearly have a more straightforward path to the final and to each way money. The variance in their odds and Belgium isn’t due to the weight of bets being taken, but an algorithm which understands this shit better than people who change their mind everytime they watch a match (or read a report on one).
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 29, 2018, 06:53:56 PM
All that aside, some cracking games lined up for the first knockout stage.

It's hard to see a game I'm not looking forward to in fairness. France Argentina will be a contest to see which of them can actually start performing like they should be able to, Uruguay Portugal might be very defensive, but intriguing, Spain Russia should be very open, Croatia Denmark will be very interesting, Brazil Mexico should be open and entertaining, Belgium Japan the same, Sweden Switzerland should be sneaky good. Two teams that wouldn't get your pulse racing, but they should be a good match and Switzerland impressed me a bit more than i thought they would. And then of course Colombia v England. I hope Rodriguez is able to go, but it's probably unlikely.

The problem is Argentina are performing at their level. They scraped through qualifying and only did so after Messi came back from retirement. The squad isn't good. At all. Mascherano playing centre mid is a terrible idea. All his inspirational, heart on the sleeve stuff is nothing if he's only making up for his own mistakes.

That's true in a general sense, defensively they are a mess, but I don't think Higuain, Messi, Aguero, Di Maria have done as much in an attacking sense as you would expect. But yes, they may not have much more to go, you are right.

How come Dybala isn’t getting a sniff?

The manager prefers to give playing time to players like Meza who can't play. I would play Dybala Messi Aguero and Higuain in the same team as they are Argentinas best players. They don't have many good players in midfield or defence.

Even if you’d Keane and Viera in midfield you’d get your arse handed to you on a plate with that line up. And Argentina have neither, nothing close.


Re England’s price. They just qualified from the same group as Belgium with a nigh-on identical record (Janujaz scorer a belter, Rashford missed an easier chance, and the presence of Danny Welbeck tells you how much England were bothered), and clearly have a more straightforward path to the final and to each way money. The variance in their odds and Belgium isn’t due to the weight of bets being taken, but an algorithm which understands this shit better than people who change their mind everytime they watch a match (or read a report on one).

I hear you. Though from were I sit Belgium look way superior to England
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on June 29, 2018, 08:24:31 PM
All that aside, some cracking games lined up for the first knockout stage.

It's hard to see a game I'm not looking forward to in fairness. France Argentina will be a contest to see which of them can actually start performing like they should be able to, Uruguay Portugal might be very defensive, but intriguing, Spain Russia should be very open, Croatia Denmark will be very interesting, Brazil Mexico should be open and entertaining, Belgium Japan the same, Sweden Switzerland should be sneaky good. Two teams that wouldn't get your pulse racing, but they should be a good match and Switzerland impressed me a bit more than i thought they would. And then of course Colombia v England. I hope Rodriguez is able to go, but it's probably unlikely.

The problem is Argentina are performing at their level. They scraped through qualifying and only did so after Messi came back from retirement. The squad isn't good. At all. Mascherano playing centre mid is a terrible idea. All his inspirational, heart on the sleeve stuff is nothing if he's only making up for his own mistakes.

That's true in a general sense, defensively they are a mess, but I don't think Higuain, Messi, Aguero, Di Maria have done as much in an attacking sense as you would expect. But yes, they may not have much more to go, you are right.

How come Dybala isn’t getting a sniff?

The manager prefers to give playing time to players like Meza who can't play. I would play Dybala Messi Aguero and Higuain in the same team as they are Argentinas best players. They don't have many good players in midfield or defence.

I thought they would’ve lined up something like below


—————Masch— Benega————-
Dybala————Messi——-Di Maria
——————-Aguero—————-
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on June 29, 2018, 09:02:51 PM
Belgium tempting at 7/1  God only knows how England are same price. Should be bout 20/1

Was listening to a guy from Coral on the radio who was saying that England would have been 9/1 today had they won last night.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 29, 2018, 09:26:59 PM
Di Maria has been poor at all levels since the 2014 WC. He looked good against Nigeria for about ten mins and then was just a mess. The suggestion is that with Messi and mascherano effectively running the team, dybala doesn't get in as he encroaches too much on Messi's space. He's a second striker or a false nine, not a creative midfielder or a winger. Higuaín is an excellent goalscorer but goes missing in big games too often for it to be clichéd to suggest he bottles it. Has missed huge cheers to win Argentina the WC and a Copa America. Their biggest mistake (ignoring politics and personality clashes) has been leaving Icardi behind.

Banega will play every minute from now on. Long overdue creativity. Biglia isn't great but he should play ahead of mascherano for the legs if nothing else. The defence is just appalling.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on June 30, 2018, 12:19:41 AM
Belgium tempting at 7/1  God only knows how England are same price. Should be bout 20/1

Was listening to a guy from Coral on the radio who was saying that England won have been 9/1 today had they won last night.
They're falling into the same arrogance trap the Germans fell into. They're looking 3 games ahead. Fully expect Columbia to send them packing
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on June 30, 2018, 12:42:43 AM
France v Argentina: France should win this at a canter, but I don't trust them - the Aussies and Peru troubled them. Argentina are so shapeless that I think France will get there, but on a narrow scoreline, maybe 2-1.

Uruguay v Portugal: 0-0 and penalties. Uruguay to win that with it not reaching the final Portuguese penalty.

Spain v Russia: Think there's a reasonable chance of a shock here. Spain have looked less impressive by the game and the departure of their manager may be beginning to show. I'll go with Russia to win on penalties after a 1-1 draw.

Crotia v Denmark: Croatia have been impressive so far, but I sense a shock here. The Danes are dogged and organised, have not yet conceded a goal from play, and have Christian Eriksen. 1-0 to Denmark.

Brazil v Mexico: I suspect Mexico have shot their load and Brazil will brush them aside. 3-0.

Belgium v Japan: Workmanlike victory for Belgium. 2-0.

Sweden v Switzerland: Sweden have wreaked a trail of destruction, beating France in qualification and eliminating Italy and Germany. I think this may be as far as they go. They'll meet a team who are every bit as organised as they are, and have a touch more class. 1-0 to the Swiss.

Colombia v England: I think this could be a classic in the vein of Argentina v England 1998. Fascinating clash of styles. I expect England to have trouble with Colombia's passing style and I'd be very surprised if they don't concede. But in turn I expect Colombia to have a lot of problems with England's physicality. 2-2. England to finally slay their penalties bogey.

Which would leave the quarter-finals as:
Uruguay v France
Brazil v Belgium
Russia v Denmark
Switzerland v England



Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 30, 2018, 01:10:39 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44662690

Shearer speaks some sense
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 30, 2018, 02:05:47 PM
Pavón in for Higuaín the only Argentina change.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 02:06:02 PM
There’s a ‘reasonable chance’ that Russia beats Spain? Have we been watching a different tournament, Sid?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 30, 2018, 03:22:25 PM
Mbappe is electric
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 30, 2018, 03:23:15 PM
Argentina getting run over here. Messi double marked and not getting an inch... 1986 no team could double or treble marked Maradonna. That's not to be disparaging to Messi a class player but is comment on how remarkable a player Maradonna was.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Denn Forever on June 30, 2018, 03:34:14 PM
Mbappe is electric

Andis he only 19?                 
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on June 30, 2018, 03:38:07 PM
France v Argentina: France should win this at a canter, but I don't trust them - the Aussies and Peru troubled them. Argentina are so shapeless that I think France will get there, but on a narrow scoreline, maybe 2-1.

Uruguay v Portugal: 0-0 and penalties. Uruguay to win that with it not reaching the final Portuguese penalty.

Spain v Russia: Think there's a reasonable chance of a shock here. Spain have looked less impressive by the game and the departure of their manager may be beginning to show. I'll go with Russia to win on penalties after a 1-1 draw.

Crotia v Denmark: Croatia have been impressive so far, but I sense a shock here. The Danes are dogged and organised, have not yet conceded a goal from play, and have Christian Eriksen. 1-0 to Denmark.

Brazil v Mexico: I suspect Mexico have shot their load and Brazil will brush them aside. 3-0.

Belgium v Japan: Workmanlike victory for Belgium. 2-0.

Sweden v Switzerland: Sweden have wreaked a trail of destruction, beating France in qualification and eliminating Italy and Germany. I think this may be as far as they go. They'll meet a team who are every bit as organised as they are, and have a touch more class. 1-0 to the Swiss.

Colombia v England: I think this could be a classic in the vein of Argentina v England 1998. Fascinating clash of styles. I expect England to have trouble with Colombia's passing style and I'd be very surprised if they don't concede. But in turn I expect Colombia to have a lot of problems with England's physicality. 2-2. England to finally slay their penalties bogey.

Which would leave the quarter-finals as:
Uruguay v France
Brazil v Belgium
Russia v Denmark
Switzerland v England

That's a very good analysis Sid. Whether you're right remains to be seen but you've had a go. I do think however that Croatia will beat Denmark and I rate Modric over Eriksen.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on June 30, 2018, 03:43:51 PM
So that's what DiMaria is for.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 03:59:01 PM
Di Maria has been poor at all levels since the 2014 WC. He looked good against Nigeria for about ten mins and then was just a mess. The suggestion is that with Messi and mascherano effectively running the team, dybala doesn't get in as he encroaches too much on Messi's space. He's a second striker or a false nine, not a creative midfielder or a winger. Higuaín is an excellent goalscorer but goes missing in big games too often for it to be clichéd to suggest he bottles it. Has missed huge cheers to win Argentina the WC and a Copa America. Their biggest mistake (ignoring politics and personality clashes) has been leaving Icardi behind.

Banega will play every minute from now on. Long overdue creativity. Biglia isn't great but he should play ahead of mascherano for the legs if nothing else. The defence is just appalling.

What a moment to go after him.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 04:15:54 PM
Now this is futbol.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 30, 2018, 04:16:44 PM
World Cup drama at its best!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 30, 2018, 04:17:46 PM
Great game with great goals hard to call a winner in this game.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 30, 2018, 04:21:06 PM
Set up for a Messi special? Icing on the cake
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 30, 2018, 04:21:59 PM
Sh*t  :-[
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 04:22:43 PM
Mbappe might actually be worth all that money.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 30, 2018, 04:27:57 PM
4-2 France that should be it. Messi overshadowed by Mbappe.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 04:28:44 PM
That was a gorgeous pass by Pogba.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 30, 2018, 04:32:40 PM
Di Maria has been poor at all levels since the 2014 WC. He looked good against Nigeria for about ten mins and then was just a mess. The suggestion is that with Messi and mascherano effectively running the team, dybala doesn't get in as he encroaches too much on Messi's space. He's a second striker or a false nine, not a creative midfielder or a winger. Higuaín is an excellent goalscorer but goes missing in big games too often for it to be clichéd to suggest he bottles it. Has missed huge cheers to win Argentina the WC and a Copa America. Their biggest mistake (ignoring politics and personality clashes) has been leaving Icardi behind.

Banega will play every minute from now on. Long overdue creativity. Biglia isn't great but he should play ahead of mascherano for the legs if nothing else. The defence is just appalling.

What a moment to go after him.

You mean yesterday?

The terrible defence getting fully exposed here.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mouview on June 30, 2018, 04:34:57 PM
Messi’s legs are gone. France running them off the park.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 04:35:34 PM
How the FÙCK did Ronnie Whelan and Ger Canning (and the ref) see nothing wrong in Pogba being being bear hugged and wrestled to the floor there?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 30, 2018, 04:53:47 PM
Some game pity no extra time.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 30, 2018, 05:01:17 PM
What in the name of Christ was that?

Uruguay-Portugal should be even more enjoyably violent.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 30, 2018, 05:17:11 PM
Scoreline flattered Argentina in the extreme, bar a worldie and a fluke they'd have been beaten out the gate. All the best performances were from French players.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 05:28:34 PM
Scoreline flattered Argentina in the extreme, bar a worldie and a fluke they'd have been beaten out the gate. All the best performances were from French players.
So bar what happened in the match it flattered them? Argentina had plenty of chances to win this one. Mbappe dragged France through nearly single-handedly.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 30, 2018, 05:33:49 PM
Scoreline flattered Argentina in the extreme, bar a worldie and a fluke they'd have been beaten out the gate. All the best performances were from French players.
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So bar what happened in the match it flattered them? Argentina had plenty of chances to win this one. Mbappe dragged France through nearly single-handedly.

Bollocks. Pogba and Matuidi were both excellent. Kanté was very good too. Mbappe was the star but his second goal was put on a platter for him after a lovely team move. He was anything but on his own.

Argentina just have no defence (with the exception maybe of Tagliofico) and a poor midfield. Absolutely ludicrous from Mercado and Otamendi to keep losing the head after the Agüero goal.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 05:35:24 PM
Scoreline flattered Argentina in the extreme, bar a worldie and a fluke they'd have been beaten out the gate. All the best performances were from French players.
m
So bar what happened in the match it flattered them? Argentina had plenty of chances to win this one. Mbappe dragged France through nearly single-handedly.

Bollocks. Pogba and Matuidi were both excellent. Kanté was very good too. Mbappe was the star but his second goal was put on a platter for him after a lovely team move. He was anything but on his own.

Argentina just have no defence (with the exception maybe of Tagliofico) and a poor midfield. Absolutely ludicrous from Mercado and Otamendi to keep losing the head after the Agüero goal.

Mbappe won the penalty and scored two. The other was scored on the volley by a defender, not Pogba and certainly not Kante. The bollocks is saying Mbappe wasn’t very clearly the difference between the two sides.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 30, 2018, 05:55:20 PM
Scoreline flattered Argentina in the extreme, bar a worldie and a fluke they'd have been beaten out the gate. All the best performances were from French players.
m
So bar what happened in the match it flattered them? Argentina had plenty of chances to win this one. Mbappe dragged France through nearly single-handedly.

Bollocks. Pogba and Matuidi were both excellent. Kanté was very good too. Mbappe was the star but his second goal was put on a platter for him after a lovely team move. He was anything but on his own.

Argentina just have no defence (with the exception maybe of Tagliofico) and a poor midfield. Absolutely ludicrous from Mercado and Otamendi to keep losing the head after the Agüero goal.

Mbappe won the penalty and scored two. The other was scored on the volley by a defender, not Pogba and certainly not Kante. The bollocks is saying Mbappe wasn’t very clearly the difference between the two sides.

Nobody said that though, did they?

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 06:45:56 PM
Scoreline flattered Argentina in the extreme, bar a worldie and a fluke they'd have been beaten out the gate. All the best performances were from French players.
m
So bar what happened in the match it flattered them? Argentina had plenty of chances to win this one. Mbappe dragged France through nearly single-handedly.

Bollocks. Pogba and Matuidi were both excellent. Kanté was very good too. Mbappe was the star but his second goal was put on a platter for him after a lovely team move. He was anything but on his own.

Argentina just have no defence (with the exception maybe of Tagliofico) and a poor midfield. Absolutely ludicrous from Mercado and Otamendi to keep losing the head after the Agüero goal.

Mbappe won the penalty and scored two. The other was scored on the volley by a defender, not Pogba and certainly not Kante. The bollocks is saying Mbappe wasn’t very clearly the difference between the two sides.

Nobody said that though, did they?

???
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 30, 2018, 07:10:30 PM
First blood the south americans! This has been a world cup of great goals
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 30, 2018, 07:45:07 PM
What a p***k. He got hit on the back. Never changes that boy.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 30, 2018, 07:45:38 PM
Good thing is Ronaldo or Suarez will be gone after this game. Such a pair of diving playactors.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 07:46:02 PM
Good thing is Ronaldo or Suarez will be gone after this game. Such a pair of diving playactors.

You’re trying too hard.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 30, 2018, 07:48:17 PM
Uruguay very well organised here. Ronaldo being well marked and i think will need a set piece but can't see it.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 30, 2018, 07:50:24 PM
Good thing is Ronaldo or Suarez will be gone after this game. Such a pair of diving playactors.

You’re trying too hard.

Ah don't need to know much bout groundball to figure that out  :D
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: stiffler on June 30, 2018, 07:51:44 PM
Portugal look toothless without Ronaldo. They could really do with him out there the 2nd half.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 30, 2018, 08:14:33 PM
Oh. Another of those likeable guys. Pepe now.

Game on.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on June 30, 2018, 08:21:12 PM
What a goal.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on June 30, 2018, 08:21:23 PM
Cavani again. 2-1 to Uruguay.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on June 30, 2018, 08:23:36 PM
That was a lovely goal.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 30, 2018, 08:49:45 PM
Impressed with work rate of Uruguay
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 30, 2018, 08:56:19 PM
Ronaldo is useless because he never done it in a big World Cup game. That's how it works?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: armaghniac on June 30, 2018, 08:58:24 PM
Presumably, there will be a bit of satisfaction on the north side of the River Plate that Uruguay is still there while Argentina is out.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 30, 2018, 08:58:40 PM
Ronaldo is useless because he never done it in a big World Cup game. That's how it works?

It was nice of him to turn up for the free kicks though 😂
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 30, 2018, 09:04:00 PM
Uruguay so well organised and with such a good defence that they could win the whole thing if Cavani is ok.

There was a great piece of accidental hilarity from Clive Tyldesly at the end there. There had been a shot of Cavani where he was calling him the match winner. Camera pans to Ronaldo. "And there's the big loser" He was well marshalled tonight.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 30, 2018, 09:06:50 PM
Uruguay so well organised and with such a good defence that they could win the whole thing if Cavani is ok.

There was a great piece of accidental hilarity from Clive Tyldesly at the end there. There had been a shot of Cavani where he was calling him the match winner. Camera pans to Ronaldo. "And there's the big loser" He was well marshalled tonight.

Brits love to put the boot in.....we will see how they get on Tuesday.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 30, 2018, 09:08:11 PM
He wasn't putting the boot in at all.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 30, 2018, 09:11:15 PM
He wasn't putting the boot in at all.

Oh right....'big loser' is a compliment 😳
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 30, 2018, 09:15:01 PM
He wasn't putting the boot in at all.

Oh right....'big loser' is a compliment 😳

No, he was saying loser in the sense of he was losing out, by virtue of the fact that, you know, he's one of the best players in history and was about to lose what is likely his last chance at a world cup. Get it?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on June 30, 2018, 09:17:42 PM
He wasn't putting the boot in at all.

Oh right....'big loser' is a compliment 😳

No, he was saying loser in the sense of he was losing out, by virtue of the fact that, you know, he's one of the best players in history and was about to lose what is likely his last chance at a world cup. Get it?

Ok Ted
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on June 30, 2018, 09:42:02 PM
Ronaldo didnt touch leather the nite! Still think  Maradona way ahead of him and Messi
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on June 30, 2018, 09:56:31 PM
Uruguay  are like Cavan. They won their titles between1930 and 1955. Ages ago.
And Uruguay have a player called CavanI. Amazing
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on June 30, 2018, 10:17:57 PM
Ronaldo didnt touch leather the nite! Still think  Maradona way ahead of him and Messi

Agreed.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 30, 2018, 10:27:31 PM
I think it depends on your age, I'd be very much in the Maradona camp too but would respect people's opinion of including Messi and Ronaldo into the debate.

Maradona was a Street fighter, still is  :), in a way neither of those guys ever had to be.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 10:29:42 PM
Ronaldo didnt touch leather the nite! Still think  Maradona way ahead of him and Messi

Yeah, ok old man.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 30, 2018, 10:37:51 PM
I think it depends on your age, I'd be very much in the Maradona camp too but would respect people's opinion of including Messi and Ronaldo into the debate.

Maradona was a Street fighter, still is  :), in a way neither of those guys ever had to be.

Disagree. Ronaldo grew up dirt poor. Messi had to play against lads twice his size. They've both overcome plenty. It's just the pro game these days is barely recognisable from the one Maradona played.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 10:40:20 PM
I think it depends on your age, I'd be very much in the Maradona camp too but would respect people's opinion of including Messi and Ronaldo into the debate.

Maradona was a Street fighter, still is  :), in a way neither of those guys ever had to be.

Disagree. Ronaldo grew up dirt poor. Messi had to play against lads twice his size. They've both overcome plenty. It's just the pro hadn't these days is barely recognisable from the one Maradona played.

If anyone thinks Maradonna’s personal indisapline would allow him to be a great player in the modern era they’re fooling themselves. Messi and particularly Ronaldo are obsessive in their preparation in a way Maradona never had the sense to be.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Nanderson on June 30, 2018, 10:40:47 PM
I think it depends on your age, I'd be very much in the Maradona camp too but would respect people's opinion of including Messi and Ronaldo into the debate.

Maradona was a Street fighter, still is  :), in a way neither of those guys ever had to be.
I don't get the whole Maradona hype. I know he basically won the world cup on his own in 86 which was probably his best season in his peak, but comparing that to what Messi did in 2012 is ridiculous. I mean 91 goals in 69 games and probably 30+ assists. Those numbers will probably never be seen in my lifetime again. If I were to rank them I'd go 1. Messi 2. Pele 3. Cristiano Ronaldo. 4. Maradona 5. George Best
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 30, 2018, 10:47:36 PM
I think it depends on your age, I'd be very much in the Maradona camp too but would respect people's opinion of including Messi and Ronaldo into the debate.

Maradona was a Street fighter, still is  :), in a way neither of those guys ever had to be.

Disagree. Ronaldo grew up dirt poor. Messi had to play against lads twice his size. They've both overcome plenty. It's just the pro hadn't these days is barely recognisable from the one Maradona played.

If anyone thinks Maradonna’s personal indisapline would allow him to be a great player in the modern era they’re fooling themselves. Messi and particularly Ronaldo are obsessive in their preparation in a way Maradona never had the sense to be.

Again, nobody has suggested that. You're in a roll tonight.

Of course he wouldn't get away with his indiscipline in today's game. Then again, if he was around for this era, maybe he'd be more disciplined.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 30, 2018, 10:52:58 PM
I think it depends on your age, I'd be very much in the Maradona camp too but would respect people's opinion of including Messi and Ronaldo into the debate.

Maradona was a Street fighter, still is  :), in a way neither of those guys ever had to be.

Disagree. Ronaldo grew up dirt poor. Messi had to play against lads twice his size. They've both overcome plenty. It's just the pro hadn't these days is barely recognisable from the one Maradona played.

I was talking more in football terms than life, I'm aware of where both Ronaldo and Messi came from but Maradona played in an era when assault on 'fancy dans' was legal. Actually I don't think either of the boyos are soft by any means.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/blog/2017/may/19/maradona-argentina-mexico-football-outlaw-age

I'm sure you remember this tackle but I'll link it anyways https://youtu.be/CaEbB78GLyA

And Maradona getting his own back at a later date.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1xwd0o
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 30, 2018, 11:02:40 PM
Messi and Ronaldo haven't scored a WC knockout goal??
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on June 30, 2018, 11:09:18 PM
I think it depends on your age, I'd be very much in the Maradona camp too but would respect people's opinion of including Messi and Ronaldo into the debate.

Maradona was a Street fighter, still is  :), in a way neither of those guys ever had to be.
I don't get the whole Maradona hype. I know he basically won the world cup on his own in 86 which was probably his best season in his peak, but comparing that to what Messi did in 2012 is ridiculous. I mean 91 goals in 69 games and probably 30+ assists. Those numbers will probably never be seen in my lifetime again. If I were to rank them I'd go 1. Messi 2. Pele 3. Cristiano Ronaldo. 4. Maradona 5. George Best

At World level Messi has not been able to pruduce the goods like Maradonna and Pele. Pele 1 Maradona 2 Messi 3
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2018, 11:09:46 PM
I think it depends on your age, I'd be very much in the Maradona camp too but would respect people's opinion of including Messi and Ronaldo into the debate.

Maradona was a Street fighter, still is  :), in a way neither of those guys ever had to be.

Disagree. Ronaldo grew up dirt poor. Messi had to play against lads twice his size. They've both overcome plenty. It's just the pro hadn't these days is barely recognisable from the one Maradona played.

If anyone thinks Maradonna’s personal indisapline would allow him to be a great player in the modern era they’re fooling themselves. Messi and particularly Ronaldo are obsessive in their preparation in a way Maradona never had the sense to be.

Again, nobody has suggested that. You're in a roll tonight.

Of course he wouldn't get away with his indiscipline in today's game. Then again, if he was around for this era, maybe he'd be more disciplined.

Did I say that? You fall over yourself to make an ass out of yourself sometimes. Try being less aggressive.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on June 30, 2018, 11:10:46 PM
I think it depends on your age, I'd be very much in the Maradona camp too but would respect people's opinion of including Messi and Ronaldo into the debate.

Maradona was a Street fighter, still is  :), in a way neither of those guys ever had to be.
I don't get the whole Maradona hype. I know he basically won the world cup on his own in 86 which was probably his best season in his peak, but comparing that to what Messi did in 2012 is ridiculous. I mean 91 goals in 69 games and probably 30+ assists. Those numbers will probably never be seen in my lifetime again. If I were to rank them I'd go 1. Messi 2. Pele 3. Cristiano Ronaldo. 4. Maradona 5. George Best

I'll not change your opinion any more than you will change mine, but genius isn't covered simply by stats. Messi and Ronaldo played in free flowing La Liga football teams when constant tactical fouling hadreplaced savagery.. Maradona played a lot of his football in the ultra cautious Italian league where he was fair game. I'd reckon the 2 Italian titles he won with Napoli were his pinnicle especially his 1st one.

What age are you by the way?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on June 30, 2018, 11:48:52 PM
Maradona didn't set the world alight at Barcelona.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 01, 2018, 12:10:04 AM
Obviously many backing Ronaldo and Messi are of a younger age group and probably they best don't even remember the times tackles  from behind were legal @fotball is not better nowadays but assault on forwards has been a removed from the making the game more free flowing! Its more than world's cup@ he made Napoli sthing in a league with 2 Milans, juventus, and roma and lazio in a time the best players in the world played in that league!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 01, 2018, 07:00:53 AM
I’d say there is a lot of nostalgia attached to people voting for Maradona. He was shite in plenty of games too! Messi and Ronaldo won’t be fully appreciated until they are retired. They are definitely in the argument for best ever and we got to watch them going to toe to toe with each other for the guts of 15 years.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Insane Bolt on July 01, 2018, 07:52:49 AM
Maradona and Messi are/were more team players than Ronaldo. He always reminds me of a lad in our club( think most clubs have one)......how did 'yous' get on today? ......I scored 1-5....but how did the match go? ....oh we were beat by 6 points. It's all about him.
Anyway it's all a matter of opinion, and certainly age groups will differ, but I have been blessed to see them all albeit on tv Pele, Best, Maradona, Messi and Ronaldo.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: An Watcher on July 01, 2018, 08:04:45 AM
No doubt in my mind.  Maradona all the way
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on July 01, 2018, 11:11:02 AM
1 Maradona
2 Messi
3 Pele
4 Ronaldo
5 Cruyff
6 Best
7 PlatinI
8 Beckenbauer
9 Gullit
10 Francis (Trevor, not Kevin)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on July 01, 2018, 11:11:27 AM
It's like saying which was the gretest ever gaa forward. Totally subjective.

What about best ever World Cup goal?
Eder 82

https://youtu.be/jx9KMhX4lzo
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on July 01, 2018, 11:17:16 AM
1 Maradona
2 Messi
3 Pele
4 Ronaldo
5 Cruyff
6 Best
7 PlatinI
8 Beckenbauer
9 Gullit
10 Francis (Trevor, not Kevin)

Who had the most la sting impact on soccer? Who is the reason Pep is manager of Man City? The reason Messi is who is?

https://youtu.be/CYtzf7YD8oY
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: LooseCannon on July 01, 2018, 11:18:25 AM
Xabi Alonsoooooooooooooooooooooo
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: ziggy90 on July 01, 2018, 11:36:34 AM
1 Maradona
2 Messi
3 Pele
4 Ronaldo
5 Cruyff
6 Best
7 PlatinI
8 Beckenbauer
9 Gullit
10 Francis (Trevor, not Kevin)

Who had the most la sting impact on soccer? Who is the reason Pep is manager of Man City? The reason Messi is who is?

https://youtu.be/CYtzf7YD8oY

Oh how I remember that piece of skill and that team. Probably the second best team (international) I ever saw.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 01, 2018, 12:38:33 PM
How would Messi or Ronaldo fair in that era where the likes of maradona would get the legs cut off them on a regular basis by tough defenders.
Maradona as big a idiot as he was has produced more moments of genius in tougher environments.
He also produced for his country at the World Cup which gives him the nod.
Some people just don’t want to accept that the greatest footballer to ever kick a ball also happened to be a self centered, self destructive ignorant clown.
Still not an excuse to deprive Him of his status  as the best ever. 
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 01, 2018, 01:02:21 PM
No matter about any of them - I've rarely seen a player with a work rate like suarez. His will to win is phenomenal. He is a bit of an unsavoury character but he must be an absolute nightmare to play against.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on July 01, 2018, 01:35:27 PM
It's like saying which was the gretest ever gaa forward. Totally subjective.
The greatest of the great have to have the ability to do things that no other player can do, that appear almost superhuman, that can't be coached, because they are by definition only achievable by geniuses.

There have been very few of those type of players in history.

Pele, Maradona, Messi and Ronaldinho are the four that immediately spring to mind. When each was in their prime, no other player in the world could come close to their genius.

Then you have to balance that against their achievements. George Best's ability was in the same bracket as the above four. But his achievements weren't.

Of those four, for me Maradona wins.

He had the purest ability to beat a man that has ever existed, and he performed on the greatest stage of all in a way nobody else ever had or will. He was a fantastic team player with the ability to lift those around him, he had longevity.

His peak, and his genius, was higher than anybody else's. All the above four regularly performed feats on a football pitch which were jaw-dropping. But none of them were more jaw-dropping than Maradona's.

Ranking the greatest players in GAA for me follows a similar logic. That's why I'd always rank DJ Carey above Henry Shefflin or Peter Canavan above Maurice Fitzgerald.  Carey and Canavan regularly performed feats which were jaw-dropping, and which no other player had to ability to perform. Great as Shefflin and Fitzgerald were, they didn't.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 01, 2018, 01:39:42 PM
No matter about any of them - I've rarely seen a player with a work rate like suarez. His will to win is phenomenal. He is a bit of an unsavoury character but he must be an absolute nightmare to play against.

Have to agree
Not the sort of chap you would like standing behind you if he was hungry but putting in a great shift for his country.

I often contemplate is ronaldo and Messi’s performances in the World Cup compared club the absence of salary.
When you look at Suarez or Cavani your not questioning the commitment.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on July 01, 2018, 01:40:08 PM
It's like saying which was the gretest ever gaa forward. Totally subjective.
The greatest of the great have to have the ability to do things that no other player can do, that appear almost superhuman, that can't be coached, because they are by definition only achievable by geniuses.

There have been very few of those type of players in history.

Pele, Maradona, Messi and Ronaldinho are the four that immediately spring to mind. When each was in their prime, no other player in the world could come close to their genius.

Then you have to balance that against their achievements. George Best's ability was in the same bracket as the above four. But his achievements weren't.

Of those four, for me Maradona wins.

He had the purest ability to beat a man that has ever existed, and he performed on the greatest stage of all in a way nobody else ever had or will. He was a fantastic team player with the ability to lift those around him, he had longevity.

His peak, and his genius, was higher than anybody else's. All the above four regularly performed feats on a football pitch which were jaw-dropping. But none of them were more jaw-dropping than Maradona's.

Ranking the greatest players in GAA for me follows a similar logic. That's why I'd always rank DJ Carey above Henry Shefflin or Peter Canavan above Maurice Fitzgerald.  Carey and Canavan regularly performed feats which were jaw-dropping, and which no other player had to ability to perform. Great as Shefflin and Fitzgerald were, they didn't.

Good analysis though Pele durability, skill level, achievements and ability to perform the extradordinary were up there with Maradona. Pele won 3 World Cups and to score such a goal in a World Cup final at 17! then 12 years later hung in the air to head the ball to the net in the 1970 final. Pele had it all beating men, shot, heading ability, long career...
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on July 01, 2018, 01:55:26 PM
No matter about any of them - I've rarely seen a player with a work rate like suarez. His will to win is phenomenal. He is a bit of an unsavoury character but he must be an absolute nightmare to play against.

Have to agree
Not the sort of chap you would like standing behind you if he was hungry but putting in a great shift for his country.

I often contemplate is ronaldo and Messi’s performances in the World Cup compared club the absence of salary.
When you look at Suarez or Cavani your not questioning the commitment.

You're hard on Ronaldo and Messi, I have never seen any lack of commitment from either of them. Nearly 300 caps between the two of them. 
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 01, 2018, 02:02:51 PM
I read a stat that in the croatia game messi covered less ground than any other outfield player in the tournament - that far - and casper schmeichel covered more ground in one of his games than messi against croatia.

How true that is i am not sure but he doesn't cover that much ground at times!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 01, 2018, 02:03:20 PM
No matter about any of them - I've rarely seen a player with a work rate like suarez. His will to win is phenomenal. He is a bit of an unsavoury character but he must be an absolute nightmare to play against.

Have to agree
Not the sort of chap you would like standing behind you if he was hungry but putting in a great shift for his country.

I often contemplate is ronaldo and Messi’s performances in the World Cup compared club the absence of salary.
When you look at Suarez or Cavani your not questioning the commitment.

You picked out the Uraguay forward with the second best workrate there. Cavani is a better player now IMHO.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 01, 2018, 02:13:57 PM
No matter about any of them - I've rarely seen a player with a work rate like suarez. His will to win is phenomenal. He is a bit of an unsavoury character but he must be an absolute nightmare to play against.

Have to agree
Not the sort of chap you would like standing behind you if he was hungry but putting in a great shift for his country.

I often contemplate is ronaldo and Messi’s performances in the World Cup compared club the absence of salary.
When you look at Suarez or Cavani your not questioning the commitment.

You picked out the Uraguay forward with the second best workrate there. Cavani is a better player now IMHO.

Per usual you didn’t read my post
Was responding to another poster regarding Suarez and brought Cavani into my response in the same light- do always have to get it wrong.
Cavani to me is the player of the tournament to date
His calf injury might impact his performances from here on in but he has been fantastic.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 01, 2018, 02:16:17 PM
No matter about any of them - I've rarely seen a player with a work rate like suarez. His will to win is phenomenal. He is a bit of an unsavoury character but he must be an absolute nightmare to play against.

Have to agree
Not the sort of chap you would like standing behind you if he was hungry but putting in a great shift for his country.

I often contemplate is ronaldo and Messi’s performances in the World Cup compared club the absence of salary.
When you look at Suarez or Cavani your not questioning the commitment.

You picked out the Uraguay forward with the second best workrate there. Cavani is a better player now IMHO.

Per usual you didn’t read my post
Was responding to another poster regarding Suarez and brought Cavani into my response in the same light- do always have to get it wrong.
Cavani to me is the player of the tournament to date
His calf injury might impact his performances from here on in but he has been fantastic.

What a pointlessly aggressive start. I read your post well enough the first time.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 01, 2018, 02:20:41 PM
Yeah uruguay in general have a work rate that is phenomenal. Cavani was fantastic yesterday and has a great work rate. Suarez has to be the most dogged player out there but cavani probably a bit more gifted. Godin one of the hardiest out there too.

France against uruguay will be very good. Pogba was fantastic spraying it around yesterday but hard to see him get that space against uruguay. Be interesting to see how he adapts.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 01, 2018, 02:23:17 PM
Everyone is apparently getting aggressive on poor syferus ;D nothing to do with the fact he pulls anyone up on anything they say even when they didn't say it and then gets defensive when pulled on it ;D

Ps is there any thread you don't pollute >:(
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on July 01, 2018, 02:38:59 PM
1 Maradona
2 Messi
3 Pele
4 Ronaldo
5 Cruyff
6 Best
7 PlatinI
8 Beckenbauer
9 Gullit
10 Francis (Trevor, not Kevin)

Where’s zidane? Probably the era I grew up in but he is easily in my top 5
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on July 01, 2018, 02:40:19 PM
Everyone is apparently getting aggressive on poor syferus ;D nothing to do with the fact he pulls anyone up on anything they say even when they didn't say it and then gets defensive when pulled on it ;D

Ps is there any thread you don't pollute >:(
His definition of what aggressive is and what my definition of aggressive is couldn't be more different.
That's snowflakes for you though I suppose....
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 01, 2018, 02:42:47 PM
Everyone is apparently getting aggressive on poor syferus ;D nothing to do with the fact he pulls anyone up on anything they say even when they didn't say it and then gets defensive when pulled on it ;D

Ps is there any thread you don't pollute >:(

Yet more nonsense. The irony of you complaining about polluting a thread when this is one of your contributions, without any relation to the topic, is lost on very few people.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on July 01, 2018, 03:01:29 PM
It's like saying which was the gretest ever gaa forward. Totally subjective.

What about best ever World Cup goal?
Eder 82

https://youtu.be/jx9KMhX4lzo

Carlos Alberto 1970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5HbmeNKino
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on July 01, 2018, 03:17:07 PM
Bergkamp v Argentina is one of the great World Cup goals
https://youtu.be/XsZkCFoqSBs

Always remember this one from USA 1994
https://youtu.be/FxDNewTtlXU

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: north_antrim_hound on July 01, 2018, 05:01:53 PM
Everyone is apparently getting aggressive on poor syferus ;D nothing to do with the fact he pulls anyone up on anything they say even when they didn't say it and then gets defensive when pulled on it ;D

Ps is there any thread you don't pollute >:(

A complete head melt
I would say as a child his mother use to tie a bone round his neck so the dog would play with him.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 01, 2018, 05:13:22 PM
Everyone is apparently getting aggressive on poor syferus ;D nothing to do with the fact he pulls anyone up on anything they say even when they didn't say it and then gets defensive when pulled on it ;D

Ps is there any thread you don't pollute >:(

A complete head melt
I would say as a child his mother use to tie a bone round his neck so the dog would play with him.

You’re just embarrassing yourself now.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 01, 2018, 05:41:15 PM
Spain knocked out by Russia  :o The more big hitters that get knocked out the more of a chance England have of winning this World Cup.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 01, 2018, 05:45:08 PM
Spain knocked out by Russia  :o The more big hitters that get knocked out the more of a chance England have of winning this World Cup.

Columbia still have the beating of them. We might get a novel team in the WC final, though. In my lifetime only Germany, Argentina, Brazil, Italy, France, Spain and the Netherlands have played in the WC final. The last time two of those teams didn’t make up the final pairing was 1966.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2018, 05:45:22 PM
Spain were muck! Deserve what they get for poor play, sacking their manager was a possibly a big mistake
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on July 01, 2018, 05:45:34 PM
Spain knocked out by Russia  :o The more big hitters that get knocked out the more of a chance England have of winning this World Cup.
Unbelievable Jeff
Karma for Ramos

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on July 01, 2018, 05:45:59 PM
Sad that a team that played for penalties gets through.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 01, 2018, 05:46:09 PM
The russians aren't the most likeable but its always great to see the hosts doing well when totally written off. Spain were on borrowed time once they foolishly got rid of their manager before the World cup.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on July 01, 2018, 05:46:23 PM
Spain knocked out by Russia  :o The more big hitters that get knocked out the more of a chance England have of winning this World Cup.
opening up for england. Football looks like its definitely coming home!!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2018, 05:50:53 PM
Spain knocked out by Russia  :o The more big hitters that get knocked out the more of a chance England have of winning this World Cup.
Unbelievable Jeff
Karma for Ramos

?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on July 01, 2018, 05:53:40 PM
Spain knocked out by Russia  :o The more big hitters that get knocked out the more of a chance England have of winning this World Cup.
opening up for england. Football looks like its definitely coming home!!

wise up!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on July 01, 2018, 06:04:54 PM

Spain v Russia: Think there's a reasonable chance of a shock here. Spain have looked less impressive by the game and the departure of their manager may be beginning to show. I'll go with Russia to win on penalties after a 1-1 draw.


There’s a ‘reasonable chance’ that Russia beats Spain? Have we been watching a different tournament, Sid?

It looks we were, alright.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Minder on July 01, 2018, 06:06:51 PM
Is that game on Englands side of the draw ?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on July 01, 2018, 06:11:31 PM
Is that game on Englands side of the draw ?
Yes.

England have a toughest possible route to the final of Colombia, Switzerland and Croatia.

Anybody who thinks they haven't a right good chance of reaching the final now is fooling themselves.

It's right there for them. They'll never, ever have a softer route to a final than this.

Whether they can take it is another thing. But I think the winners of England v Colombia will make the final.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 01, 2018, 06:20:48 PM

Spain v Russia: Think there's a reasonable chance of a shock here. Spain have looked less impressive by the game and the departure of their manager may be beginning to show. I'll go with Russia to win on penalties after a 1-1 draw.


There’s a ‘reasonable chance’ that Russia beats Spain? Have we been watching a different tournament, Sid?

It looks we were, alright.

The match ended in a draw, Sid. Don't puff your chest out too much.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on July 01, 2018, 06:26:16 PM

Spain v Russia: Think there's a reasonable chance of a shock here. Spain have looked less impressive by the game and the departure of their manager may be beginning to show. I'll go with Russia to win on penalties after a 1-1 draw.


There’s a ‘reasonable chance’ that Russia beats Spain? Have we been watching a different tournament, Sid?

It looks we were, alright.

The match ended in a draw, Sid. Don't puff your chest out too much.

I'm happy enough with my predictions so far.

France v Argentina: France should win this at a canter, but I don't trust them - the Aussies and Peru troubled them. Argentina are so shapeless that I think France will get there, but on a narrow scoreline, maybe 2-1.

Uruguay v Portugal: 0-0 and penalties. Uruguay to win that with it not reaching the final Portuguese penalty.

Spain v Russia: Think there's a reasonable chance of a shock here. Spain have looked less impressive by the game and the departure of their manager may be beginning to show. I'll go with Russia to win on penalties after a 1-1 draw.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 01, 2018, 06:39:13 PM

Spain v Russia: Think there's a reasonable chance of a shock here. Spain have looked less impressive by the game and the departure of their manager may be beginning to show. I'll go with Russia to win on penalties after a 1-1 draw.


There’s a ‘reasonable chance’ that Russia beats Spain? Have we been watching a different tournament, Sid?

It looks we were, alright.

The match ended in a draw, Sid. Don't puff your chest out too much.

I'm happy enough with my predictions so far.

France v Argentina: France should win this at a canter, but I don't trust them - the Aussies and Peru troubled them. Argentina are so shapeless that I think France will get there, but on a narrow scoreline, maybe 2-1.

Uruguay v Portugal: 0-0 and penalties. Uruguay to win that with it not reaching the final Portuguese penalty.

Spain v Russia: Think there's a reasonable chance of a shock here. Spain have looked less impressive by the game and the departure of their manager may be beginning to show. I'll go with Russia to win on penalties after a 1-1 draw.


Must be top of the predictions competition
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 01, 2018, 07:04:26 PM
Some start to this game 2 goals in the first 3 minutes.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on July 01, 2018, 07:33:43 PM

Spain v Russia: Think there's a reasonable chance of a shock here. Spain have looked less impressive by the game and the departure of their manager may be beginning to show. I'll go with Russia to win on penalties after a 1-1 draw.


There’s a ‘reasonable chance’ that Russia beats Spain? Have we been watching a different tournament, Sid?

It looks we were, alright.

The match ended in a draw, Sid. Don't puff your chest out too much.
Holy God, what possesses you to post the stuff that you post?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 01, 2018, 07:41:37 PM

Spain v Russia: Think there's a reasonable chance of a shock here. Spain have looked less impressive by the game and the departure of their manager may be beginning to show. I'll go with Russia to win on penalties after a 1-1 draw.


There’s a ‘reasonable chance’ that Russia beats Spain? Have we been watching a different tournament, Sid?

It looks we were, alright.

The match ended in a draw, Sid. Don't puff your chest out too much.
Holy God, what possesses you to post the stuff that you post?

How did Mayo do against Kildare, again?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 01, 2018, 07:44:38 PM
Everyone is apparently getting aggressive on poor syferus ;D nothing to do with the fact he pulls anyone up on anything they say even when they didn't say it and then gets defensive when pulled on it ;D

Ps is there any thread you don't pollute >:(
His definition of what aggressive is and what my definition of aggressive is couldn't be more different.
That's snowflakes for you though I suppose....

 ;D The definition of a snowflake who talks about irony in other posts and doesn't see that every post of his is loaded with it. The irony ;D

Spain the same old spain. Good up until final third. Very open tournament but still you couldn't see England near winning. Think colombia will beat them. France, uruguay, belgium in that order...
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on July 01, 2018, 08:00:51 PM

Spain v Russia: Think there's a reasonable chance of a shock here. Spain have looked less impressive by the game and the departure of their manager may be beginning to show. I'll go with Russia to win on penalties after a 1-1 draw.


There’s a ‘reasonable chance’ that Russia beats Spain? Have we been watching a different tournament, Sid?

It looks we were, alright.

The match ended in a draw, Sid. Don't puff your chest out too much.
Holy God, what possesses you to post the stuff that you post?

How did Mayo do against Kildare, again?
What's that got to do with it?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 01, 2018, 09:23:09 PM
Everyone is apparently getting aggressive on poor syferus ;D nothing to do with the fact he pulls anyone up on anything they say even when they didn't say it and then gets defensive when pulled on it ;D

Ps is there any thread you don't pollute >:(
His definition of what aggressive is and what my definition of aggressive is couldn't be more different.
That's snowflakes for you though I suppose....

 ;D The definition of a snowflake who talks about irony in other posts and doesn't see that every post of his is loaded with it. The irony ;D

Spain the same old spain. Good up until final third. Very open tournament but still you couldn't see England near winning. Think colombia will beat them. France, uruguay, belgium in that order...

Using the word ‘snowflake’ with a straight face says more than enough about both of you that I don’t need to add anything more.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 01, 2018, 09:28:40 PM
A poorly taken penalty by Modric.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on July 01, 2018, 09:31:29 PM
Very poor. Schmeichel well off his line though. Will Modric have the balls to take one in the penalty shootout.
Disappointed with Croatia. Thought they would win this handy enough.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 01, 2018, 09:32:19 PM
Everyone is apparently getting aggressive on poor syferus ;D nothing to do with the fact he pulls anyone up on anything they say even when they didn't say it and then gets defensive when pulled on it ;D

Ps is there any thread you don't pollute >:(
His definition of what aggressive is and what my definition of aggressive is couldn't be more different.
That's snowflakes for you though I suppose....

 ;D The definition of a snowflake who talks about irony in other posts and doesn't see that every post of his is loaded with it. The irony ;D

Spain the same old spain. Good up until final third. Very open tournament but still you couldn't see England near winning. Think colombia will beat them. France, uruguay, belgium in that order...

Using the word ‘snowflake’ with a straight face says more than enough about both of you that I don’t need to add anything more.

 ;D how do you know i had a straight face when using it? Ah that's right you know everything.

denmark much better here. Croatia very disappointing. Poor penalty from modric.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: longballin on July 01, 2018, 09:41:20 PM
Brian Kerr is some craic if you can get past that grating accent
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 01, 2018, 09:43:07 PM
Very poor. Schmeichel well off his line though. Will Modric have the balls to take one in the penalty shootout.
Disappointed with Croatia. Thought they would win this handy enough.
He did and scored fair play to him.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on July 01, 2018, 09:43:31 PM
Yup fair play. Took some balls that.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 01, 2018, 09:43:54 PM
Everyone is apparently getting aggressive on poor syferus ;D nothing to do with the fact he pulls anyone up on anything they say even when they didn't say it and then gets defensive when pulled on it ;D

Ps is there any thread you don't pollute >:(
His definition of what aggressive is and what my definition of aggressive is couldn't be more different.
That's snowflakes for you though I suppose....

 ;D The definition of a snowflake who talks about irony in other posts and doesn't see that every post of his is loaded with it. The irony ;D

Spain the same old spain. Good up until final third. Very open tournament but still you couldn't see England near winning. Think colombia will beat them. France, uruguay, belgium in that order...

Using the word ‘snowflake’ with a straight face says more than enough about both of you that I don’t need to add anything more.

 ;D how do you know i had a straight face when using it? Ah that's right you know everything.

denmark much better here. Croatia very disappointing. Poor penalty from modric.

Because nothing you wrote used the term as a joke. Christ.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 01, 2018, 09:46:14 PM
Well done Croatia and I hope they beat Russia next.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 01, 2018, 09:47:14 PM
Best team lost really. Big improvement required from croatia.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: laoislad on July 01, 2018, 09:49:53 PM
Everyone is apparently getting aggressive on poor syferus ;D nothing to do with the fact he pulls anyone up on anything they say even when they didn't say it and then gets defensive when pulled on it ;D

Ps is there any thread you don't pollute >:(
His definition of what aggressive is and what my definition of aggressive is couldn't be more different.
That's snowflakes for you though I suppose....

 ;D The definition of a snowflake who talks about irony in other posts and doesn't see that every post of his is loaded with it. The irony ;D

Spain the same old spain. Good up until final third. Very open tournament but still you couldn't see England near winning. Think colombia will beat them. France, uruguay, belgium in that order...

Using the word ‘snowflake’ with a straight face says more than enough about both of you that I don’t need to add anything more.
We didn't ask you to add anything. That's your problem right there. You always think everyone wants to hear your opinion. No one does.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: seafoid on July 01, 2018, 09:51:56 PM
Croatia can do better. Denmark are a very good team and well worth the 5-1 in BAC.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 01, 2018, 09:54:19 PM
Brian Kerr is some craic if you can get past that grating accent

He's an absolutely brilliant analyst. Knows the game inside out at all levels.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 01, 2018, 10:00:03 PM
I’m amazed Didi had the self-control not tell Maloney or Sadler to shut the fûck about U17s shïte. The rule of the keeper not coming off the line at all is so severe and hard to enforce because it involves two seperate actions that most referees exercise plenty of discretion, and rightly so. The rule should change to legalise minimal encroachment if only to shut up Brian Kerr.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: BennyCake on July 01, 2018, 10:04:46 PM
Some difference in De Gea and Schmeichel in shoot outs. De Gea looked like a wee timid boy, never looked like saving anything.

I'd gladly swop them for United.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on July 01, 2018, 10:22:00 PM
Croatia can do better. Denmark are a very good team and well worth the 5-1 in BAC.

How did we lose that game 5-1 to that team and give up a hat trick to eriksen.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: straightred on July 01, 2018, 10:44:44 PM
I’m amazed Didi had the self-control not tell Maloney or Sadler to shut the fûck about U17s shïte. The rule of the keeper not coming off the line at all is so severe and hard to enforce because it involves two seperate actions that most referees exercise plenty of discretion, and rightly so. The rule should change to legalise minimal encroachment if only to shut up Brian Kerr.

Thats your opinion but with respect it is completely irrelevant. The rule is there whether you agree with it or not and it wasn't enforced. Both russian saves should have been retaken as well. Kerr is 100% right. It was enforced against us in a lessor competition. Why not today ?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 01, 2018, 10:55:24 PM
I’m amazed Didi had the self-control not tell Maloney or Sadler to shut the fûck about U17s shïte. The rule of the keeper not coming off the line at all is so severe and hard to enforce because it involves two seperate actions that most referees exercise plenty of discretion, and rightly so. The rule should change to legalise minimal encroachment if only to shut up Brian Kerr.

Thats your opinion but with respect it is completely irrelevant. The rule is there whether you agree with it or not and it wasn't enforced. Both russian saves should have been retaken as well. Kerr is 100% right. It was enforced against us in a lessor competition. Why not today ?

Kerr is right by a strict reading of the rule book, with little regard for how it being implemented would actually effect the game. It’s telling that it was Kerr, Sadler and Maloney pushing that angle while the top level player in Didi had a very different take.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: straightred on July 01, 2018, 10:59:35 PM
I’m amazed Didi had the self-control not tell Maloney or Sadler to shut the fûck about U17s shïte. The rule of the keeper not coming off the line at all is so severe and hard to enforce because it involves two seperate actions that most referees exercise plenty of discretion, and rightly so. The rule should change to legalise minimal encroachment if only to shut up Brian Kerr.

Thats your opinion but with respect it is completely irrelevant. The rule is there whether you agree with it or not and it wasn't enforced. Both russian saves should have been retaken as well. Kerr is 100% right. It was enforced against us in a lessor competition. Why not today ?

Kerr is right by a strict reading of the rule book, with little regard for how it being implemented would actually effect the game. It’s telling that it was Kerr, Sadler and Maloney pushing that angle while the top level player in Didi had a very different take.

its the world cup. doesnt get any bigger and ref got it badly wrong. Its daft to try and argue otherwise. Should have sent the dane off as well for the foul. 2 awful non decisions in a minute - don't expect him to get any more games in this tournament
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 01, 2018, 11:02:44 PM
I’m amazed Didi had the self-control not tell Maloney or Sadler to shut the fûck about U17s shïte. The rule of the keeper not coming off the line at all is so severe and hard to enforce because it involves two seperate actions that most referees exercise plenty of discretion, and rightly so. The rule should change to legalise minimal encroachment if only to shut up Brian Kerr.

Thats your opinion but with respect it is completely irrelevant. The rule is there whether you agree with it or not and it wasn't enforced. Both russian saves should have been retaken as well. Kerr is 100% right. It was enforced against us in a lessor competition. Why not today ?

Kerr is right by a strict reading of the rule book, with little regard for how it being implemented would actually effect the game. It’s telling that it was Kerr, Sadler and Maloney pushing that angle while the top level player in Didi had a very different take.

its the world cup. doesnt get any bigger and ref got it badly wrong. Its daft to try and argue otherwise. Should have sent the dane off as well for the foul. 2 awful non decisions in a minute - don't expect him to get any more games in this tournament

The foul for the penalty was a yellow at best. You seem like you come from the Byron Moreno school of refereeing.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: sid waddell on July 01, 2018, 11:05:10 PM
Very poor. Schmeichel well off his line though. Will Modric have the balls to take one in the penalty shootout.
Disappointed with Croatia. Thought they would win this handy enough.
He did and scored fair play to him.
Modric's penalty in the shoot-out was worse than the one he had saved. He timidly hit it along the ground dead centre.

The Croatian goalkeeper was brilliant in the shoot-out, especially considering he dropped an almighty clanger in the first minute of the match.

Some strange penalty-taking choices from the Danes. Thought Poulsen and Sisto would have stepped up, likelweise Rebic for Croatia.

Croatia looked like the pressure got to them during the match itself - they hadn't got through a knock-out tie in a major finals since 1998, and it was a very lacklustre performance from them. But having got over the Danes from a situation where they looked the much less likely team going into the shoot-out, I think they now have the ability to step it up significantly against Russia and get to a semi-final.

Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on July 02, 2018, 12:20:05 AM
Hope you're right. I'll be in Croatia when the semi final takes place.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: gawa316 on July 02, 2018, 07:25:44 AM
Some difference in De Gea and Schmeichel in shoot outs. De Gea looked like a wee timid boy, never looked like saving anything.

I'd gladly swop them for United.

Has De Gea ever saved a pen? The fecker saves everything thrown at him in the EPL but jeez he was awful in the world cup
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on July 02, 2018, 08:09:59 AM
Some difference in De Gea and Schmeichel in shoot outs. De Gea looked like a wee timid boy, never looked like saving anything.

I'd gladly swop them for United.
Get off the drugs ffs.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on July 02, 2018, 09:58:39 AM
Croatia got a slice of luck last night.  Both they and Spain show that if you don't really try to score you could be in trouble.  England will never have a better opportunity to win something.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 02, 2018, 10:01:26 AM
I’m amazed Didi had the self-control not tell Maloney or Sadler to shut the fûck about U17s shïte. The rule of the keeper not coming off the line at all is so severe and hard to enforce because it involves two seperate actions that most referees exercise plenty of discretion, and rightly so. The rule should change to legalise minimal encroachment if only to shut up Brian Kerr.

Thats your opinion but with respect it is completely irrelevant. The rule is there whether you agree with it or not and it wasn't enforced. Both russian saves should have been retaken as well. Kerr is 100% right. It was enforced against us in a lessor competition. Why not today ?

Kerr is right by a strict reading of the rule book, with little regard for how it being implemented would actually effect the game. It’s telling that it was Kerr, Sadler and Maloney pushing that angle while the top level player in Didi had a very different take.

its the world cup. doesnt get any bigger and ref got it badly wrong. Its daft to try and argue otherwise. Should have sent the dane off as well for the foul. 2 awful non decisions in a minute - don't expect him to get any more games in this tournament

The foul for the penalty was a yellow at best. You seem like you come from the Byron Moreno school of refereeing.

Bull. The Danish defender may have thought I'll try and make it look like a genuine attempt at getting the ball. However he was tackling wrong side so never getting it. Red.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Taylor on July 02, 2018, 10:31:29 AM
I’m amazed Didi had the self-control not tell Maloney or Sadler to shut the fûck about U17s shïte. The rule of the keeper not coming off the line at all is so severe and hard to enforce because it involves two seperate actions that most referees exercise plenty of discretion, and rightly so. The rule should change to legalise minimal encroachment if only to shut up Brian Kerr.

Thats your opinion but with respect it is completely irrelevant. The rule is there whether you agree with it or not and it wasn't enforced. Both russian saves should have been retaken as well. Kerr is 100% right. It was enforced against us in a lessor competition. Why not today ?

Kerr is right by a strict reading of the rule book, with little regard for how it being implemented would actually effect the game. It’s telling that it was Kerr, Sadler and Maloney pushing that angle while the top level player in Didi had a very different take.

its the world cup. doesnt get any bigger and ref got it badly wrong. Its daft to try and argue otherwise. Should have sent the dane off as well for the foul. 2 awful non decisions in a minute - don't expect him to get any more games in this tournament

The foul for the penalty was a yellow at best. You seem like you come from the Byron Moreno school of refereeing.

Bull. The Danish defender may have thought I'll try and make it look like a genuine attempt at getting the ball. However he was tackling wrong side so never getting it. Red.

Was there not a rule change whereby you cant be punished twice for the same incident (a red card and a penalty)?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on July 02, 2018, 10:37:44 AM
Only it they think it was a genuine attempt to play to ball, a deliberate hack down is still a red card.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: lenny on July 02, 2018, 10:59:17 AM
I’m amazed Didi had the self-control not tell Maloney or Sadler to shut the fûck about U17s shïte. The rule of the keeper not coming off the line at all is so severe and hard to enforce because it involves two seperate actions that most referees exercise plenty of discretion, and rightly so. The rule should change to legalise minimal encroachment if only to shut up Brian Kerr.

Thats your opinion but with respect it is completely irrelevant. The rule is there whether you agree with it or not and it wasn't enforced. Both russian saves should have been retaken as well. Kerr is 100% right. It was enforced against us in a lessor competition. Why not today ?

Kerr is right by a strict reading of the rule book, with little regard for how it being implemented would actually effect the game. It’s telling that it was Kerr, Sadler and Maloney pushing that angle while the top level player in Didi had a very different take.

its the world cup. doesnt get any bigger and ref got it badly wrong. Its daft to try and argue otherwise. Should have sent the dane off as well for the foul. 2 awful non decisions in a minute - don't expect him to get any more games in this tournament

The foul for the penalty was a yellow at best. You seem like you come from the Byron Moreno school of refereeing.

Bull. The Danish defender may have thought I'll try and make it look like a genuine attempt at getting the ball. However he was tackling wrong side so never getting it. Red.

Was there not a rule change whereby you cant be punished twice for the same incident (a red card and a penalty)?

No, dunno where you heard that. Really should’ve been a red IMO.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 02, 2018, 11:06:01 AM
Still a red if ref deems tackle or offence deliberate. If the ref feels a genuine attempt to play the ball was made a yellow is enough. The Danish player was wrong side so he could never have played the ball.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on July 02, 2018, 11:26:24 AM
I’m amazed Didi had the self-control not tell Maloney or Sadler to shut the fûck about U17s shïte. The rule of the keeper not coming off the line at all is so severe and hard to enforce because it involves two seperate actions that most referees exercise plenty of discretion, and rightly so. The rule should change to legalise minimal encroachment if only to shut up Brian Kerr.

Thats your opinion but with respect it is completely irrelevant. The rule is there whether you agree with it or not and it wasn't enforced. Both russian saves should have been retaken as well. Kerr is 100% right. It was enforced against us in a lessor competition. Why not today ?

Kerr is right by a strict reading of the rule book, with little regard for how it being implemented would actually effect the game. It’s telling that it was Kerr, Sadler and Maloney pushing that angle while the top level player in Didi had a very different take.

its the world cup. doesnt get any bigger and ref got it badly wrong. Its daft to try and argue otherwise. Should have sent the dane off as well for the foul. 2 awful non decisions in a minute - don't expect him to get any more games in this tournament

The foul for the penalty was a yellow at best. You seem like you come from the Byron Moreno school of refereeing.

Bull. The Danish defender may have thought I'll try and make it look like a genuine attempt at getting the ball. However he was tackling wrong side so never getting it. Red.

Was there not a rule change whereby you cant be punished twice for the same incident (a red card and a penalty)?

No, dunno where you heard that. Really should’ve been a red IMO.

He's right, there is a rule change that stops 'double' punishment. The awarding of the penalty is seen as giving the attacking team the goalscoring opportunity back, so it's not an automatic red card now if a foul denies a goalscoring opportunity in the box.

However if the ref feels the foul was deliberate, like Suarez' handball v Ghana, or a hack down, he can still give the red card as well as the penalty.

As far as I know outside the box is still a red card because the goalscoring opportunity cannot be given back to the attacking team.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 02, 2018, 02:53:44 PM
Feck this match more Hope Solo.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 02, 2018, 03:56:04 PM
Feck this match more Hope Solo.
Interesting she says football instead of soccer.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Boycey on July 02, 2018, 04:31:55 PM
Despite Neymar being an absolute pussy there, ur man should be getting a card...
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: trailer on July 02, 2018, 05:09:04 PM
You couldn't kick Neymar enough. Couldn't like him if ye breastfed him.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on July 02, 2018, 05:20:45 PM
Belgium v Brazil in the quarter final should be a great game. As long as belgium beat Japan that is.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on July 02, 2018, 05:49:01 PM
I get the impression that Brazil have at least one more gear if needed.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Paudi Meehan on July 02, 2018, 06:00:51 PM

Hard to like any team with Neymar on ut
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 02, 2018, 07:54:29 PM
Feck this match more Hope Solo.

If RTE had a guy who had allegations of domestic abuse against him on the show there would be uproar. The case was thrown out on a technicality and they way she acted towards the cops is brutal. Should t be near our telly
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 02, 2018, 07:56:07 PM
Feck this match more Hope Solo.

If RTE had a guy who had allegations of domestic abuse against him on the show there would be uproar. The case was thrown out on a technicality and they way she acted towards the cops is brutal. Should t be near our telly

Agreed. Same goes for Paddy Jackson and his less talented buddies.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on July 02, 2018, 08:12:54 PM
I don’t believe it!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 02, 2018, 08:13:20 PM
Japan 2-0 ahead i suppose we'll see what this Belgium side are really made of now.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on July 02, 2018, 08:13:52 PM
I don’t believe it!
Good enough for the b**tards.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Capt Pat on July 02, 2018, 08:17:36 PM
Nangolan or however you spell his name is badly missed from the Belgian side imho. He didn't even make the squad.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on July 02, 2018, 08:20:33 PM
Southgate a genius to have England avoid Japan.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 02, 2018, 08:24:30 PM
G that game should be making it the WFT thread! I looks like some amount of talented players in the world have not made the last 8 this world cup
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2018, 08:28:09 PM
Feck this match more Hope Solo.

If RTE had a guy who had allegations of domestic abuse against him on the show there would be uproar. The case was thrown out on a technicality and they way she acted towards the cops is brutal. Should t be near our telly

Agreed. Same goes for Paddy Jackson and his less talented buddies.

Relevance?
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 02, 2018, 08:31:16 PM
G that game should be making it the WFT thread! I looks like some amount of talented players in the world have not made the last 8 this world cup

Work rate, heart and organisation go a long way in international football. Some of the more talented and bigger nations seem to lack this whether it be egos or whatever causes it i dunno.

Only downside is i have belgium in the work sweepstake.

Belgium always disappoint but in my view martinez a poor manager and not the right guy for the job.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2018, 08:35:24 PM
G that game should be making it the WFT thread! I looks like some amount of talented players in the world have not made the last 8 this world cup

Work rate, heart and organisation go a long way in international football. Some of the more talented and bigger nations seem to lack this whether it be egos or whatever causes it i dunno.

Only downside is i have belgium in the work sweepstake.

Belgium always disappoint but in my view martinez a poor manager and not the right guy for the job.

How’s that working out now? Big Coco the clown has it
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 02, 2018, 08:42:57 PM
My sweepstake looking better.

I still think martinez is a poor manager and belgium if they do well will do so in spite of him.

Big coco has looked ok this tournament.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2018, 08:48:25 PM
My sweepstake looking better.

I still think martinez is a poor manager and belgium if they do well will do so in spite of him.

Big coco has looked ok this tournament.

He’s plan b in fairness, which some of the bigger teams haven’t got! England have that option also in Vardy and Rashford... Belgium could still go out here! Loving the shocks
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 02, 2018, 08:50:11 PM
Japan might be the best watch in the WC. Magic.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on July 02, 2018, 08:51:44 PM
My sweepstake looking better.

I still think martinez is a poor manager and belgium if they do well will do so in spite of him.

Big coco has looked ok this tournament.

He’s plan b in fairness, which some of the bigger teams haven’t got! England have that option also in Vardy and Rashford... Belgium could still go out here! Loving the shocks

Great world cup. Hope a lesser team wins it. (though not england who joking aside are actually one of the lesser teams)
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: hardstation on July 02, 2018, 08:52:25 PM
Ah ffs.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 02, 2018, 08:53:12 PM
Japan did not deserve that.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2018, 08:53:43 PM
Worthy of winning any game!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on July 02, 2018, 08:54:03 PM
Some comeback by Belgium but not sure what Japan were at before that 3rd goal was conceded.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: screenexile on July 02, 2018, 08:57:08 PM
Some game superb effort from the Japanese they had a couple of chances to go another ahead too.

It looked ominous when De Bruyne picked up the ball after that corner!
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 02, 2018, 09:06:59 PM
Some comeback by Belgium but not sure what Japan were at before that 3rd goal was conceded.

Trying to win it. Can't have a go at them for that.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 02, 2018, 09:08:23 PM
Some comeback by Belgium but not sure what Japan were at before that 3rd goal was conceded.

Trying to win it. Can't have a go at them for that.

You can for their naive defending. They should have at least brought it to extra time.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: mrdeeds on July 02, 2018, 09:19:46 PM
Some comeback by Belgium but not sure what Japan were at before that 3rd goal was conceded.

Trying to win it. Can't have a go at them for that.

You can for their naive defending. They should have at least brought it to extra time.

And lost in extra time. They tried to win it. Fair play to them.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on July 02, 2018, 09:30:08 PM
A mate got Belgium at 12/1 when 2-0. Put 100 on it.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: An Watcher on July 02, 2018, 10:10:08 PM
Fair play to him and it's great to hear these stories but you always hear the wins and not the losses
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: AQMP on July 02, 2018, 10:23:28 PM
How Carrasco gets to play in the World Cup is a mystery. He wouldn’t get a game for Antrim. His attitude is awful too.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: Dougal Maguire on July 02, 2018, 11:20:40 PM
I don’t believe it!
Good enough for the b**tards.
I was hoping they'd win because they're a good team and they've a Celtic player. but I'm always interested in your logic for not supporting a team.
Title: Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
Post by: straightred on July 02, 2018, 11:24:10 PM