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Title: Club Hurling
Post by: BallyroanAbbey on April 16, 2017, 11:40:37 AM
Saw that camross only managed to beat Shanahoe Gales by 4 points in the Palmer Cup final yesterday with basically their first team out. Hard to know if they played badly or could the Gales team be able to challenge Ballyfin Gales and The Harps for senior B honours
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on April 16, 2017, 06:29:33 PM
Saw that camross only managed to beat Shanahoe Gales by 4 points in the Palmer Cup final yesterday with basically their first team out. Hard to know if they played badly or could the Gales team be able to challenge Ballyfin Gales and The Harps for senior B honours

I'd say it was a case of doing enough to beat what's in front of you.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: blueandwhite1 on April 19, 2017, 11:51:10 AM
Saw that camross only managed to beat Shanahoe Gales by 4 points in the Palmer Cup final yesterday with basically their first team out. Hard to know if they played badly or could the Gales team be able to challenge Ballyfin Gales and The Harps for senior B honours

It's the Palmer cup. It's April. It's irrelevant...
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: The Rover on April 20, 2017, 08:52:42 PM
 I See Clonaslee Thugs are at it again.
U16 hurling v  Rosenallis, player assaulted and now gone to Hospital by ambulance.
Numerous players from Clonaslee attacked him with hurls.How can the Co. Board tolerate this Club time after time this same club resort to the cowardly act of assaulting opponents and get away with it.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Helix on April 20, 2017, 09:15:44 PM
I See Clonaslee Thugs are at it again.
U16 hurling v  Rosenallis, player assaulted and now gone to Hospital by ambulance.
Numerous players from Clonaslee attacked him with hurls.How can the Co. Board tolerate this Club time after time this same club resort to the cowardly act of assaulting opponents and get away with it.

Fingers crossed player in question is ok. Will probably not be the last we'll hear about this.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on April 20, 2017, 09:27:08 PM
I See Clonaslee Thugs are at it again.
U16 hurling v  Rosenallis, player assaulted and now gone to Hospital by ambulance.
Numerous players from Clonaslee attacked him with hurls.How can the Co. Board tolerate this Club time after time this same club resort to the cowardly act of assaulting opponents and get away with it.

Terrible thing to say but there seems to be an extraordinarily high percentage of them that totally lose it at the drop of a hat.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: HURLING1 on April 20, 2017, 10:04:53 PM
Getting away with it for years. Pure thugs
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on April 20, 2017, 10:11:55 PM
At what point do the County Board act?,it seems they can act with impunity.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Dave like the tv channel on April 21, 2017, 07:22:10 AM
The County Board could fine them. The players involved should be banned. The club should be asked to name every player involved or face removal from all competitions....either this year or next.

There's plenty the CB could do with lots of things that are wrong in this county, but don't.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on April 21, 2017, 09:13:00 AM
The County Board could fine them. The players involved should be banned. The club should be asked to name every player involved or face removal from all competitions....either this year or next.

There's plenty the CB could do with lots of things that are wrong in this county, but don't.
In their defense, they've done all this before, and more.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on April 21, 2017, 09:43:48 AM
Time for a club ban then.

I've heard 2 reports as so to what went on last night,one worse than the other,actions of the players were mentor driven against a chap who was playing well for Rosenallis,attacking a prone unconscious u16 player into the bargain.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on April 21, 2017, 09:47:03 AM
Time for a club ban then.

I've heard 2 reports as so to what went on last night,one worse than the other,actions of the players were mentor driven against a chap who was playing well for Rosenallis,attacking a prone unconscious u16 player into the bargain.
I wouldn't be against banning the Club. They've had more than enough warnings at this stage. Removing home fixtures, fines, suspensions, all have failed to work.

I wonder would Offaly take them?
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: HURLING1 on April 21, 2017, 10:01:28 AM
Offaly have enough problems of their own. This should go further than the Co board. Hope the boys parents are down at the Garda station this morning reporting this incident.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on April 21, 2017, 09:23:07 PM
I believe the same 2 clubs are playing an u16 football game next week
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on April 21, 2017, 11:28:01 PM
http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/04/21/u-16-hurling-match-abandoned-serious-injury/
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on April 22, 2017, 12:14:24 AM
Time for a club ban then.

I've heard 2 reports as so to what went on last night,one worse than the other,actions of the players were mentor driven against a chap who was playing well for Rosenallis,attacking a prone unconscious u16 player into the bargain.

Maybe I am soft, but you can't ban the club IMO.
On the other hand, I don't have a solution.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: The Rover on April 22, 2017, 08:08:21 AM
Clonaslee a once proud and disciplined club are now nothing more than a shambles and an absolute disgrace. Loud mouthed ill disciplined thugs that know nothing about sport and the value that it can bring to a community. their are plenty of decent people in clonaslee that have walked away from the club over the last number of years because of a few ignorant uncontrollable yobs. The CB have dished out all sorts of fines, home match bans etc to Clonaslee club but all to no avail.
Clonaslee as a club have not taken any action by way of suspending certain individuals and as a result they are the most detested ill disciplined Club in the county. What a pity to see a once proud and valued sporting club that offered so much to its own members and to the county now in such a situation.
The only way the Club can mend its ways is internally, the club officers should dish out suspensions instead of protecting them. if suspensions mean that they fail to field teams so be it. Better not field a team than continue in the same manor.   
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: SCFC on April 22, 2017, 01:01:16 PM
Hard to know what can be done now.
How many chances do you give a club?
Feel sorry for the few decent, genuine people in that club who must be disgusted with this latest incident.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on April 22, 2017, 04:17:30 PM
Time for a club ban then.

I've heard 2 reports as so to what went on last night,one worse than the other,actions of the players were mentor driven against a chap who was playing well for Rosenallis,attacking a prone unconscious u16 player into the bargain.

Maybe I am soft, but you can't ban the club IMO.
On the other hand, I don't have a solution.

Of course you can ban clubs from competitions

Just one example

http://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/gaa-zero-tolerance-policy-continues-after-cavan-club-is-banned-26457043.html
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on April 22, 2017, 04:55:45 PM
I suppose I mean't "shouldn't" in place of "can't". But then again we are probably heading for last resort at this stage regarding Clonaslee.

The way I heard Clonaslee people defend James Young in the weeks after that incident V Castletown last year really sums up the problems in that club. Here there most high profile hurler in 30 years was backed to the hilt after behaving disgracefully. That's the leadership they are getting.
Monkey see, monkey do.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: hurlingmad on April 25, 2017, 08:20:08 PM
Ballyfin seem to be playing well in the intermediate league, without the gaels players they will have for the championshio at senior b, maybe rosenallis can do well this year also. I think Ballacolla will be difficult to beat but they have played darren maher at centre forward and willie hyland at centre back which is certainly differant. But i wouldnt be surprised to see b/k retain as they seem to have all the tools to do so and with their forwards they are the team to beat
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Cruella De Vil on April 25, 2017, 11:58:50 PM
Clonaslee a once proud and disciplined club are now nothing more than a shambles and an absolute disgrace. Loud mouthed ill disciplined thugs that know nothing about sport and the value that it can bring to a community. their are plenty of decent people in clonaslee that have walked away from the club over the last number of years because of a few ignorant uncontrollable yobs. The CB have dished out all sorts of fines, home match bans etc to Clonaslee club but all to no avail.
Clonaslee as a club have not taken any action by way of suspending certain individuals and as a result they are the most detested ill disciplined Club in the county. What a pity to see a once proud and valued sporting club that offered so much to its own members and to the county now in such a situation.

I agree with most of your post rover, except "once proud & disciplined" club. This s**t is going on for as long as I can remember (i.e. 30+ yrs). Like fathers/like sons bans have been handed down, even lifetime sideline bans for some folk, and they continue to act the b****x year in, year out. This is totally coming from the top down in the club, not all at the top, but the majority, in creating the mindset of what is and isn't acceptable. At an U-8 game last year, I seen a clonaslee chap throw a hurl at an opponent when he was running after him and couldn't catch him, this was met with a chorus of laughter and cheers by the usual suspects watching on the sideline. I will add the ref was their own John Rowney, who pulled the player aside and warned him not to do this again, but they haven't enough guys up there that think like John. Most coaches would reprimand a chap for this, not encourage it, most parents if their child did it at 8 years, would give the kid a boot in the hole, put them in the car, and take them home.
The regularity of this stuff up there is ridiculous. All clubs can have a crazy incident/game up and down where things go wild, but every year clonaslee seem to have loads, almost exclusively in hurling, where they can swing wildly at lads heads with the hurl, the bare fisted combat doesnt appeal to the tough guys who knock lads out with hurls from behind.

It's a f**king disgrace.

Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on April 26, 2017, 11:44:53 AM
Front of the Leinster this week

Well done Clonaslee,ye must be so proud
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on April 26, 2017, 12:24:05 PM
Front of the Leinster this week

Well done Clonaslee,ye must be so proud
They've never given a solid f**k before, doubt they'll change now.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: The Rover on April 26, 2017, 05:37:31 PM
Clonaslee a once proud and disciplined club are now nothing more than a shambles and an absolute disgrace. Loud mouthed ill disciplined thugs that know nothing about sport and the value that it can bring to a community. their are plenty of decent people in clonaslee that have walked away from the club over the last number of years because of a few ignorant uncontrollable yobs. The CB have dished out all sorts of fines, home match bans etc to Clonaslee club but all to no avail.
Clonaslee as a club have not taken any action by way of suspending certain individuals and as a result they are the most detested ill disciplined Club in the county. What a pity to see a once proud and valued sporting club that offered so much to its own members and to the county now in such a situation.

I agree with most of your post rover, except "once proud & disciplined" club. This s**t is going on for as long as I can remember (i.e. 30+ yrs). Like fathers/like sons bans have been handed down, even lifetime sideline bans for some folk, and they continue to act the b****x year in, year out. This is totally coming from the top down in the club, not all at the top, but the majority, in creating the mindset of what is and isn't acceptable. At an U-8 game last year, I seen a clonaslee chap throw a hurl at an opponent when he was running after him and couldn't catch him, this was met with a chorus of laughter and cheers by the usual suspects watching on the sideline. I will add the ref was their own John Rowney, who pulled the player aside and warned him not to do this again, but they haven't enough guys up there that think like John. Most coaches would reprimand a chap for this, not encourage it, most parents if their child did it at 8 years, would give the kid a boot in the hole, put them in the car, and take them home.
The regularity of this stuff up there is ridiculous. All clubs can have a crazy incident/game up and down where things go wild, but every year clonaslee seem to have loads, almost exclusively in hurling, where they can swing wildly at lads heads with the hurl, the bare fisted combat doesnt appeal to the tough guys who knock lads out with hurls from behind.

It's a f**king disgrace.

I can only speak from my own experience, The reason I said a once proud and disciplined Club was because I did hurl against Clonaslee during the 1980's and 1990's we always found them tough and hard as were most clubs that were in contention for a senior title at the time, they were no worst or better than any other club at that time and always had a number of players playing for county teams at all grades.Looking back I would actually say that  Players from Clonaslee at that time such as Phil Dillon, Paddy and Fran Bates, Tom Flynn, John O'Keeffe R.I.P. Gerry Culliton R.I.P., and many more that I can not remember all their names were gentlemen of the game and I certainly would have held their players and mentors at that time as true lovers of the game. What a pity the Club has now gone to such an all time low.
I will repeat what I already stated a lot of these men of that time have walked away from the Club because of the current standards accepted by club officers, mentors and players.   
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on April 26, 2017, 11:08:49 PM
If the County Board dont do anything, other clubs should simply refuse to field against them. Force the hand of either the CB or the club.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on April 27, 2017, 08:36:42 AM
There's every chance Clonaslee would win a multiple of county titles if this was to happen.

The CB should man up and do their job,the likelihood of this happening........,most unlikely
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on April 27, 2017, 10:46:51 AM
There's every chance Clonaslee would win a multiple of county titles if this was to happen.

The CB should man up and do their job,the likelihood of this happening........,most unlikely
Let them have them, worthless.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Joeythelips on April 27, 2017, 11:40:52 AM
Wow, hard to pass proper comment as I did not see the game and therefore the incident but when I read comments like " It is believed the player involved had his helmet removed before he received a blow to the head which rendered him unconscious" in the newspaper it tells me this kind of thing really needs to be stamped out once and for all in the GAA. Serious action is needed and Gardai should certainly be involved. In fairness to the county board they have come down hard after serious incidents like this before, but there is only so much that they can do. This is an issue for everyone in the GAA to deal with:

Prosecutions: In the incident we are discussing this 15 year old was assaulted plain and simple, the reality is assaults have been happening for years on GAA pitches and almost nothing done about them. Clonaslee have a shocking recent history of this but no club is blameless, we have all been on teams where a player or players have swung fists or boots off the ball. This is assault any way you dress it, but because it happens on a pitch we try and sweep it under the carpet once the noice dies down. Most clubs probably have members or know members of the Gardai so this may help with regards to making the incident go away so to speak. But make no mistake about it charges need to be brought against players who assault others, this will stamp out this culture we have created where violent acts are acceptable on the field of play. Our games are tough games as it is, players can get plenty physical within the rules.

Video evidence: I agree that if every avenue is taken by county board that there may eventually be no alternative but to suspend the club from all competitions. It is a last resort though as it really is a small group spoiling it for the rest, but the fact that it keeps occurring shows the club need to sort it out. One way that might help is for the CB to give the a 5 year ban from all competitions which is suspended on condition they have all games videoed by company of CB choosing which will be paid for by the club. The idea been that any incident in future would be caught for posterity,  it might seem extortionate but they might not have any other choice.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on April 27, 2017, 11:46:51 AM
Re: Video evidence, if there was an incident i doubt the cameraman would get out the gate of the grounds with his camera!
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on April 27, 2017, 12:15:24 PM
Wow, hard to pass proper comment as I did not see the game and therefore the incident but when I read comments like " It is believed the player involved had his helmet removed before he received a blow to the head which rendered him unconscious" in the newspaper it tells me this kind of thing really needs to be stamped out once and for all in the GAA. Serious action is needed and Gardai should certainly be involved. In fairness to the county board they have come down hard after serious incidents like this before, but there is only so much that they can do. This is an issue for everyone in the GAA to deal with:

Prosecutions: In the incident we are discussing this 15 year old was assaulted plain and simple, the reality is assaults have been happening for years on GAA pitches and almost nothing done about them. Clonaslee have a shocking recent history of this but no club is blameless, we have all been on teams where a player or players have swung fists or boots off the ball. This is assault any way you dress it, but because it happens on a pitch we try and sweep it under the carpet once the noice dies down. Most clubs probably have members or know members of the Gardai so this may help with regards to making the incident go away so to speak. But make no mistake about it charges need to be brought against players who assault others, this will stamp out this culture we have created where violent acts are acceptable on the field of play. Our games are tough games as it is, players can get plenty physical within the rules.

Video evidence: I agree that if every avenue is taken by county board that there may eventually be no alternative but to suspend the club from all competitions. It is a last resort though as it really is a small group spoiling it for the rest, but the fact that it keeps occurring shows the club need to sort it out. One way that might help is for the CB to give the a 5 year ban from all competitions which is suspended on condition they have all games videoed by company of CB choosing which will be paid for by the club. The idea been that any incident in future would be caught for posterity,  it might seem extortionate but they might not have any other choice.

just apply the laws as they currently stand thats all thats need.

Clubs can be banned,it has been done before in other counties,precedent is already there.

As for the filming of games,cost alone makes it a non runner given the number of games,also given a choice you would see many a camera man taking the safer option of Aleppo over Clonaslee atm.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Zooming around on April 27, 2017, 12:29:43 PM
I wouldn't like to be the poor camera man trying to get out of Clonaslee if anything happened.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Joeythelips on April 27, 2017, 12:45:11 PM
Ok fair enough video evidence is out, just feel sorry for genuine GAA people in Clonaslee, as always its a small minority who are ruining it for the rest. Going on this and other incidents it would seem that the club and CB are unable to deal with the situation, with his in mind they may need a severe suspension for couple of years (maybe more) to weed out the trouble makers but such a suspension would most likely destroy the club.

But in all these cases we need to see prosecutions happening, never mind GAA law, assault charges need to be handed down when assaults occur.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Laois fan on April 27, 2017, 01:17:30 PM
Seems this is under garda investigation now and rightly so.Think an overall ban for the club might be a bit harsh but def they should be banned from playing any home games for a few years maybe its changed but always found it intimadating with supporters nearly on the pitch roaring in.Also maybe thr county board could put them on probation and have neutral observer at every match involving them to report any further incidents(clonaslee covers costs).In saying that if club dont co-operate fully with any iinvestigations it will say alot,most parents and management of teams will worry about playing against them without serious change
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: blueandwhite1 on April 27, 2017, 01:20:32 PM
Seems this is under garda investigation now and rightly so.

Wasn't the last time around investigated by the Gardai too - with a Garda being the main instigator....
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on April 27, 2017, 01:32:30 PM
Maybe any potential videographers that ye are suggesting turn up and video games,should read this

http://m.independent.ie/sport/hurling/garda-investigated-over-alleged-assault-at-match-26692220.html
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: steven seagal on April 27, 2017, 04:36:10 PM
Clonaslee need a complete overhaul of the culture in the club, but god only knows how you would go about doing that. In the last year, they had a Division 2 football game abandoned against Annanough, had a player given a 24 match ban for trying to decapitate an opponent and starting a mass brawl in O'Moore Park, and now this latest effort. The reports coming out from this one are far worse, and more disturbing, than any of the other two.

That's just in 12 months as well. You can go further back and include the brawl in O'Moore Park that saw them banned from home games for five years, using club funds to bail a player out of jail to play a club match, and refusing to name a player who knocked out a young Rathdowney-Errill hurler in a junior match. That's only what I can think of, no doubt there has been countless other red cards, fights and abuse of referees, linesmen or opposition.

At this stage, I think they'll have to completely ban the club for a year or two. Allow juvenile players 'isolated player' status and let them go wherever they want to continue playing in the mean time, and then hope that the lunatics have stopped running the asylum when the club returns to competitive action. I don't know if any of that is within the remit of Laois GAA, but it's what I'd like to see done.

Or else see will Offaly take them  :)
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Laoisguy on April 28, 2017, 12:19:15 PM
The game against Clonaslee in most age groups u14 upwards are now dreaded in our club

Intimidation rampant on the line of players,supporters,Ref and even their own players

I umpired a match u16 in which they were involved and the behaviour of management towards their own players was disgusting

I could hear players saying they would never play again

Unbelievable
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Ogie on April 28, 2017, 03:30:35 PM
On a slightly more positive note we appear to have a new Senior referee in the county, an O Brien fella formerly from Tipp, he referred Borris Kilcotton v Camross last Saturday night and was really excellent, Top class
Can easily see him being our top referee for the year ahead.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on April 28, 2017, 03:59:29 PM
Considering we lost 15 refs between this year and last,maybe we could do with a few more imports
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Dave like the tv channel on April 29, 2017, 01:21:34 AM
The Clonaslee thing is in the papers and on social media. No hiding for the CB on this.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Laoiseabu on April 29, 2017, 09:38:16 AM
A bit off topic this but how is Patrick Hyland from Clonaslee not on the minor hurling panel?
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Joeythelips on April 29, 2017, 10:16:08 AM
https://twitter.com/CLGLaois/status/857977901630803968/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/CLGLaois/status/857977901630803968/photo/1)

Shows what Clonalsee can do when they do things right, hopefully they can rid themselves of the few clowns who are giving them a bad name.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on April 29, 2017, 11:28:19 AM
I have to laugh when I see the phrases "a few clowns" or "small minority" in relation to Clonaslee,there seem to be an issue with them in every grade from u8's upwards

As another poster said earlier,every time there's a game against them, there's hassle at best.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Downtheroad on April 29, 2017, 01:13:02 PM
https://twitter.com/CLGLaois/status/857977901630803968/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/CLGLaois/status/857977901630803968/photo/1)

Shows what Clonalsee can do when they do things right, hopefully they can rid themselves of the few clowns who are giving them a bad name.
Best hurler by a country mile on that team is from Abbeyleix and there are few good players from Rosenallis and Offaly clubs I imagine as well. The teachers are outsiders as well. Wouldn't be banking on the locals.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Joeythelips on April 29, 2017, 02:13:00 PM
I have to laugh when I see the phrases "a few clowns" or "small minority" in relation to Clonaslee,there seem to be an issue with them in every grade from u8's upwards

As another poster said earlier,every time there's a game against them, there's hassle at best.

So Clonaslee produce nothing of quality, just a bunch of scumbags is it? They actually have a great sporting reputation down the years. I know plenty of people from there and as been said on this thread its a small percentage of people who are spoiling it for the rest.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on April 29, 2017, 03:08:25 PM
I have to laugh when I see the phrases "a few clowns" or "small minority" in relation to Clonaslee,there seem to be an issue with them in every grade from u8's upwards

As another poster said earlier,every time there's a game against them, there's hassle at best.

So Clonaslee produce nothing of quality, just a bunch of scumbags is it? They actually have a great sporting reputation down the years. I know plenty of people from there and as been said on this thread its a small percentage of people who are spoiling it for the rest.

get off your high horse and spare me the faux outrage,they have a litany of serious offences the length of your arm,maybe the "plenty of people" you know should put their foot down and call a halt to the behaviour of the "few"
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Cruella De Vil on April 29, 2017, 09:25:33 PM
I have to laugh when I see the phrases "a few clowns" or "small minority" in relation to Clonaslee,there seem to be an issue with them in every grade from u8's upwards

As another poster said earlier,every time there's a game against them, there's hassle at best.

So Clonaslee produce nothing of quality, just a bunch of scumbags is it? They actually have a great sporting reputation down the years. I know plenty of people from there and as been said on this thread its a small percentage of people who are spoiling it for the rest.

get off your high horse and spare me the faux outrage,they have a litany of serious offences the length of your arm,maybe the "plenty of people" you know should put their foot down and call a halt to the behaviour of the "few"

+1 clonadmad, 100% correct.

If the majority were outraged & embarrassed by this stuff all the time, surely they would have the will and means democratically to oust the "few", if it were just a few. If you accept acting the maggot at underage, you create the monster.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on April 29, 2017, 10:35:32 PM
I have to laugh when I see the phrases "a few clowns" or "small minority" in relation to Clonaslee,there seem to be an issue with them in every grade from u8's upwards

As another poster said earlier,every time there's a game against them, there's hassle at best.

So Clonaslee produce nothing of quality, just a bunch of scumbags is it? They actually have a great sporting reputation down the years. I know plenty of people from there and as been said on this thread its a small percentage of people who are spoiling it for the rest.
I suspect you may have skin in the game here, but I'll humor you. At this point, any positives they have provided to the county have been HUGELY outweighed by their despicable carryon. If all these good people you know were to stand up and take back their club, the problem would be solved. Their inaction damns them.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Joeythelips on May 03, 2017, 02:21:55 PM
I have to laugh when I see the phrases "a few clowns" or "small minority" in relation to Clonaslee,there seem to be an issue with them in every grade from u8's upwards

As another poster said earlier,every time there's a game against them, there's hassle at best.

So Clonaslee produce nothing of quality, just a bunch of scumbags is it? They actually have a great sporting reputation down the years. I know plenty of people from there and as been said on this thread its a small percentage of people who are spoiling it for the rest.
I suspect you may have skin in the game here, but I'll humor you. At this point, any positives they have provided to the county have been HUGELY outweighed by their despicable carryon. If all these good people you know were to stand up and take back their club, the problem would be solved. Their inaction damns them.

I have no 'skin in the game' like the rest of you all I would hope that Clonslee clean up their act and get rid of the element within the club that is the root cause of this type of carry on, because the path they are on will lead to a draconian ban of several years from all competitions. As i said originally my wish would be to see all acts of violence on GAA pitches to be punished in a court of law rather than by county boards.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Dave like the tv channel on May 04, 2017, 12:22:47 AM
Why not both? Are you saying that the courts are bound by the rulings of our CB?
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on May 04, 2017, 01:06:18 PM
I see from this weeks Leinster that the 15 year old that was struck in the Clonaslee game had to be re-admitted to hospital
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Tintin84 on May 04, 2017, 03:00:32 PM
Also I hear the game against Clonaslee and Rosenallis u16 football went off without any incident, Think the big talking point was that the lad that got injured is out for up to 3 months and the players that were so called suspended were playing last night against Rosenallis, Doesn't make much sense does it?
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Joeythelips on May 05, 2017, 09:56:29 AM
Why not both? Are you saying that the courts are bound by the rulings of our CB?
Of course both but a lot of people are giving out that the county board are not dealing with it properly, but they have given serious bans and fines on previous occasions. But as was my original point, violent incidents like these during or after games rarely end up with charges against the assailant. If all players knew there was a good chance they would face a criminal conviction if they were involved in such incidents they would stop very quickly. The problem is we still have this as part of the culture of gaelic games that a fight or melee's are acceptable. Our games have plenty of physicality allowed in the rules without resorting to such nonsense.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: BobbyBoucherJr on May 10, 2017, 08:47:55 AM
The Clonaslee-St Manman’s player who was named as re-entering the pitch and starting the melee had been previously sent off in the first half due a second yellow card minor infraction and was in fact togged in and standing in the dug outs behind his mentor when the melee began.

“In the referee’s report, it is alleged that Clonaslee parents entered the field of play after the whistle was blown and had contributed to the melee.

“While we acknowledge some parents did enter the pitch, it was only to remove their children from the pitch as three of our players indicated they were assaulted. The players in question have now all made statements which will be forwarded to the children’s officer.

As previously stated, the melee did not start as a result of a Clonaslee player re-entering the field of play. It was in fact started by an off-the-ball incident involving a Clonaslee and Rosenallis player.

“At that point, players from both clubs were involved in the incident and it was at this point that the referee abandoned the game, with a scoreline of Clonaslee 4-9 and Rosenallis 1-8.

“The injured Rosenallis player remained on the pitch with his mother, mentor and a registered nurse, who is a mother of a Clonaslee player and who provided medical assistance.

“She assured that the injured player had sustained an injury but was lucid, talking and at no point unconscious as was inaccurately reported in some media.

“This statement from Clonaslee-St Manman’s is as a result of an investigation by our club, where statements have been taken and are being forwarded to relevant authorities.

“It is with regret that Clonaslee-St Manman’s GAA Club find it necessary to release a statement of this nature to defend our juveniles against the inaccuracies reported by some sections of the media and on social media.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on May 10, 2017, 09:57:38 AM
The Clonaslee-St Manman’s player who was named as re-entering the pitch and starting the melee had been previously sent off in the first half due a second yellow card minor infraction and was in fact togged in and standing in the dug outs behind his mentor when the melee began.

“In the referee’s report, it is alleged that Clonaslee parents entered the field of play after the whistle was blown and had contributed to the melee.

“While we acknowledge some parents did enter the pitch, it was only to remove their children from the pitch as three of our players indicated they were assaulted. The players in question have now all made statements which will be forwarded to the children’s officer.

As previously stated, the melee did not start as a result of a Clonaslee player re-entering the field of play. It was in fact started by an off-the-ball incident involving a Clonaslee and Rosenallis player.

“At that point, players from both clubs were involved in the incident and it was at this point that the referee abandoned the game, with a scoreline of Clonaslee 4-9 and Rosenallis 1-8.

“The injured Rosenallis player remained on the pitch with his mother, mentor and a registered nurse, who is a mother of a Clonaslee player and who provided medical assistance.

“She assured that the injured player had sustained an injury but was lucid, talking and at no point unconscious as was inaccurately reported in some media.

“This statement from Clonaslee-St Manman’s is as a result of an investigation by our club, where statements have been taken and are being forwarded to relevant authorities.

“It is with regret that Clonaslee-St Manman’s GAA Club find it necessary to release a statement of this nature to defend our juveniles against the inaccuracies reported by some sections of the media and on social media.

So to summarise


Never

Our

Fault
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on May 10, 2017, 10:55:49 AM
Casting doubt on the contents of the refs report and then turning on the meeja,as an excercise in passing the buck and deflection.

I'd give it a 7/10

Marks lost for not wishing the Rosenallis youngster a speedy recovery and not mentioning that Clonaslee doesn't support or condone foul play in any shape or form
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Dave like the tv channel on May 10, 2017, 03:54:32 PM
Clonaslee doesn't support or condone foul play in any shape or form

Well, they probably didn't want to take the p*ss too much.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: hurlingmad on May 10, 2017, 04:12:00 PM
The Clonaslee-St Manman’s player who was named as re-entering the pitch and starting the melee had been previously sent off in the first half due a second yellow card minor infraction and was in fact togged in and standing in the dug outs behind his mentor when the melee began.

“In the referee’s report, it is alleged that Clonaslee parents entered the field of play after the whistle was blown and had contributed to the melee.

“While we acknowledge some parents did enter the pitch, it was only to remove their children from the pitch as three of our players indicated they were assaulted. The players in question have now all made statements which will be forwarded to the children’s officer.

As previously stated, the melee did not start as a result of a Clonaslee player re-entering the field of play. It was in fact started by an off-the-ball incident involving a Clonaslee and Rosenallis player.

“At that point, players from both clubs were involved in the incident and it was at this point that the referee abandoned the game, with a scoreline of Clonaslee 4-9 and Rosenallis 1-8.

“The injured Rosenallis player remained on the pitch with his mother, mentor and a registered nurse, who is a mother of a Clonaslee player and who provided medical assistance.

“She assured that the injured player had sustained an injury but was lucid, talking and at no point unconscious as was inaccurately reported in some media.

“This statement from Clonaslee-St Manman’s is as a result of an investigation by our club, where statements have been taken and are being forwarded to relevant authorities.

“It is with regret that Clonaslee-St Manman’s GAA Club find it necessary to release a statement of this nature to defend our juveniles against the inaccuracies reported by some sections of the media and on social media.

Might aswell of said it was the young lads fault for having a soft head and it should of been at least a free...bull
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on May 10, 2017, 04:13:22 PM
Lads, lads, lads, cant ye see, Clonaslee have launched their own investigation into the matter. Trust them to handle this in the correct manner please.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: hurlingmad on May 11, 2017, 12:47:57 AM
Lads, lads, lads, cant ye see, Clonaslee have launched their own investigation into the matter. Trust them to handle this in the correct manner please.

Latest findings from the internal investigation confirm that the player that headbut the clonaslee players hurl is "grand" amd it will make him hardy
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: steven seagal on May 11, 2017, 09:59:13 AM
Is the hurl alright??  :)
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Dave like the tv channel on May 12, 2017, 04:51:34 PM
I see Na Fianna have given a walkover in the MHL Div2 game. You'd wonder how many more matches will be conceded, in light of the recent trouble?
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: The Rover on May 12, 2017, 06:12:04 PM
05/05/2017
Na Fianna   -   vs   -   Naomh Fiontáin Maighean Rátha   Conceded by Naomh Fiontáin Maighean Rátha
11/05/2017
Cloneen/Railyard   -   vs   -   Portlaoise B   Conceded by Portlaoise B
Rosenallis   -   vs   -   Castletown   Conceded by Castletown

I Can list many more conceded fixtures, What SNIDE remark can you attribute to a never ending list?.
Hurlers on the ditch with throw away remarks are not helpful in any situation.










Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on May 12, 2017, 06:24:48 PM
Thats the spirit Rover,you come out swinging anyways

06/05/2017       
Crettyard   -   vs   -   Clonaslee St Manmans/Cluain na Slí Naomh Meanmain   Conceded by Clonaslee St Manmans/Cluain na Slí Naomh Meanmain

26/04/2017
Clonaslee St Manmans/Cluain na Slí Naomh Meanmain   -   vs   -   Ballyroan Abbey   Conceded by Clonaslee St Manmans/Cluain na Slí Naomh Meanmain

16/04/2017
Emo   -   vs   -   Clonaslee St Manmans/Cluain na Slí Naomh Meanmain   Conceded by Clonaslee St Manmans/Cluain na Slí Naomh Meanmain   

Achl
02/05/2017
Clonaslee St Manmans/Cluain na Slí Naomh Meanmain   -   vs   -   Camross   Conceded by Clonaslee St Manmans/Cluain na Slí Naomh Meanmain

22/04/2017
Borris in Ossory Kilcotton   -   vs   -   Clonaslee St Manmans/Cluain na Slí Naomh Meanmain   Conceded by Clonaslee St Manmans/Cluain na Slí Naomh Meanmain

Minor B Football League Group B
10/05/2017
Clonaslee St Manmans/Cluain na Slí Naomh Meanmain   -   vs   -   Rosenallis   Conceded by Rosenallis

Under 14 B Hurling League
24/04/2017
Clonaslee St Manmans/Cluain na Slí Naomh Meanmain -  vs   -  Park Ratheniska-Timahoe      Conceded by Park Ratheniska-Timahoe
   
MINOR B HURLING LEAGUE
12/05/17
CLONASLEE ST MANMANS/CLUAIN NA SLÍ NAOMH MEANMAIN   -   VS   -   NA FIANNA      CONCEDED BY NA FIANNA
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Dave like the tv channel on May 12, 2017, 11:50:32 PM
05/05/2017
Na Fianna   -   vs   -   Naomh Fiontáin Maighean Rátha   Conceded by Naomh Fiontáin Maighean Rátha
11/05/2017
Cloneen/Railyard   -   vs   -   Portlaoise B   Conceded by Portlaoise B
Rosenallis   -   vs   -   Castletown   Conceded by Castletown

I Can list many more conceded fixtures, What SNIDE remark can you attribute to a never ending list?.
Hurlers on the ditch with throw away remarks are not helpful in any situation.

Cry me a river.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on May 13, 2017, 12:23:46 AM
I see Na Fianna have given a walkover in the MHL Div2 game. You'd wonder how many more matches will be conceded, in light of the recent trouble?

Na Fianna don't seem to need much of an excuse to give a walkover. Can't blame Clonaslee for them all
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Unlaoised on May 15, 2017, 03:07:52 PM
Why is it always Clonaslee tho...I know there is good people there but going back as far as I can remember there has been trouble with them at all levels.

I've been to many of their games as a neutral and seen for my own eyes what has gone on.

I know two ref's one retired who won't ref games in their pitch..

I can't comment on this investigation or what happened but it's a shame the club can never escape this tag they have.

Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Downtheroad on May 15, 2017, 06:06:22 PM
Ballinakill have conceded tonight at under 14.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: TheGiantSquid on June 19, 2017, 03:06:50 AM
Does anyone know the story with PJ Scully? He hasn't featured at all this year, has he still got the quad injury or what?
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Ogie on June 19, 2017, 03:29:37 PM
BK will be without Scully & Joe Campion until at least September, both injured & require surgery, same with Paddy Whelan who had his surgery & is gone for a year, & Colm Stapleton gone to America.

Clough Ballacolla flying in the league, unbeaten to date and through to final. BK vs either Rathdowney Errill or Camross in league semi final.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: TheGiantSquid on June 25, 2017, 11:52:18 PM
Clough Ballacolla missing Willie Dunphy & Picky limped off today. Willie Hyland will probably go back into forwards now after spending the league at centre back. Cha also missing for first round as is PJ Scully, a shame that the best forwards in the county are unavilable.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: burdizzo on June 26, 2017, 09:46:08 AM
Is Cha out for sure?
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: blueandwhite1 on June 26, 2017, 10:59:16 PM
Although I generally think the round robin, the Wexford and Carlow games have been good for development of our very young senior team, it has been disastrous from a club hurling perspective for MOST clubs. The likes of B/K, C/B and R/E have had half teams for the league and will have no time to get ready for the championship with the Dublin match now. Clubs like Camross and Abbeyleix have been going well as they have so few county players. I guess this is what it must be like in more successful counties that get long championship runs but we are in a position where we have been hurling inter county Championship since April! First few rounds of the club championship could be very unpredictable and fairly low on quality.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on June 26, 2017, 11:15:10 PM
Although I generally think the round robin, the Wexford and Carlow games have been good for development of our very young senior team, it has been disastrous from a club hurling perspective for MOST clubs. The likes of B/K, C/B and R/E have had half teams for the league and will have no time to get ready for the championship with the Dublin match now. Clubs like Camross and Abbeyleix have been going well as they have so few county players. I guess this is what it must be like in more successful counties that get long championship runs but we are in a position where we have been hurling inter county Championship since April! First few rounds of the club championship could be very unpredictable and fairly low on quality.

Most successful counties the likes of Kk/Galway and Tipp continue on with their club championship in tandem with the inter county scene and have access to their players under the 7 day rule,Laois playing 6 championship games and hopefully more is a new concept for the CB to address in future
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on June 26, 2017, 11:44:54 PM
Although I generally think the round robin, the Wexford and Carlow games have been good for development of our very young senior team, it has been disastrous from a club hurling perspective for MOST clubs. The likes of B/K, C/B and R/E have had half teams for the league and will have no time to get ready for the championship with the Dublin match now. Clubs like Camross and Abbeyleix have been going well as they have so few county players. I guess this is what it must be like in more successful counties that get long championship runs but we are in a position where we have been hurling inter county Championship since April! First few rounds of the club championship could be very unpredictable and fairly low on quality.

Most successful counties the likes of Kk/Galway and Tipp continue on with their club championship in tandem with the inter county scene and have access to their players under the 7 day rule,Laois playing 6 championship games and hopefully more is a new concept for the CB to address in future

Current championship structure works great in so many ways.
Exciting, competitive, certainty around dates, intriguing once it gets going. It is guaranteed to almost never interfere with Laois intercounty fixtures.
There also aren't that many games, again logistically easier.
If I was sitting in an office in Portlaoise I'd be loathe to change any of it!

On the other hand it starts too late in the summer and our leagues are a joke. Particularly in years when we are in the round robin.

It's hard to get right. In fairness to Handy & co many counties would love a championship that ran like ours. But it does start to late. Proposals to bring everything forward that are currently on the agenda of the GAA/GPA/CPA might fix that for us in the coming years!
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: TheGiantSquid on July 05, 2017, 11:59:43 PM
Colt conceded to the Harps in the Div 1B final tonight. It is very poor form out of them. I think they are complaining about fixture congestion with their junior hurlers playing 2 matches in the last five days and they have one or two in with the Balyroan footballers. I still feel it is terrible form to concede a final and it takes the joy away from the Harps who looked on paper to deserve the title anyways. Anyone shed further light on this??
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: BallyroanAbbey on July 06, 2017, 12:07:58 AM
Played junior final sunday, junior championship last night, have football championship tomorrow night, why they culdnt play it a different date i dont know, between this courtwood not being promoted and the ballypickas-mountmellick fiasco its a bad look
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Helix on July 16, 2017, 10:21:15 PM
Senior B and intermediate championship kicked off this weekend. Ballyfin gaels got through mountmellick. Some win for Rosenallis tonight vs the Harps. Colt gaels hammering Shanahoe gaels last night. The makings of a decent side.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on July 17, 2017, 02:37:28 PM
Senior B and intermediate championship kicked off this weekend. Ballyfin gaels got through mountmellick. Some win for Rosenallis tonight vs the Harps. Colt gaels hammering Shanahoe gaels last night. The makings of a decent side.
Who are the Gaels part of Colt?
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Camarillo Brillo on July 17, 2017, 02:39:15 PM
Clonad are the gaels part
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Zooming around on July 17, 2017, 04:55:53 PM
Played junior final sunday, junior championship last night, have football championship tomorrow night, why they culdnt play it a different date i dont know, between this courtwood not being promoted and the ballypickas-mountmellick fiasco its a bad look

I Can't understand why a hurling club would give a walkover in a county hurling final yet play all manner of oul football matches the same week. Makes no sense.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on July 17, 2017, 05:19:15 PM
Clonad are the gaels part
Have they many on it? Colt have some decent players there.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Helix on July 17, 2017, 05:49:23 PM
Clonad are the gaels part
Have they many on it? Colt have some decent players there.

2 started 2 came on from Clonad. 4 so far and Kevin Bergin will probably return currently in US.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on July 18, 2017, 05:43:32 PM
http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/07/18/laois-gaa-vice-chairman-serious-war-words-club-delegate
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on July 18, 2017, 07:00:48 PM
http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/07/18/laois-gaa-vice-chairman-serious-war-words-club-delegate
Hon ya girl Mary.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: SCFC on July 18, 2017, 09:06:25 PM
http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/07/18/laois-gaa-vice-chairman-serious-war-words-club-delegate
Hon ya girl Mary.
She's a dose that one but 100% right here. Plenty of other clubs had to play league finals without county players. Mountmellick shouldn't be any different.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Downtheroad on July 18, 2017, 09:30:58 PM
http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/07/18/laois-gaa-vice-chairman-serious-war-words-club-delegate
Hon ya girl Mary.
She's a dose that one but 100% right here. Plenty of other clubs had to play league finals without county players. Mountmellick shouldn't be any different.
From experience, league finals in Division 1 and 2 tend to have the county players. Name a recent example where a Division 1 final was played without county players. I can't think of any but you may be right.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on July 18, 2017, 10:58:52 PM
In fairness to her and Ballypickas, it was a problem that wasn't of their making.
Really it was an administrative error. The fixture should never have been made.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on July 21, 2017, 01:16:38 PM
Any thoughts on this evenings game between Borris-Kilcotton and Ballinakill?

A few absentees on both sides.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on July 21, 2017, 11:49:30 PM
BK that bit slicker in the forwards which made all the difference
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on July 24, 2017, 10:21:22 AM
No shocks at all over the weekend. The real championship only starts after the first round.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: merman on August 05, 2017, 02:47:57 PM
Hard to see anything but wins for Rathdowney/Errill and Borris/Kilcotton this evening. RE should have the forwards to really hurt Portlaoise while I'd expect BK to smother the CB forwards and should have too much.

RE by 11
BK by 6

Tomorrow, Camross are my strong favourites for the championship and can't see Abbeyleix living with their physicality. Ballinakill-Castletown could well be the closest game of the weekend, if Castletown can stop Cha then they might just get over the line.

Camross by 9
Castletown by 1

The Harps and Mountrath have won their respective Senior A qualifier games and confined Shanahoe Gaels and Borris/Kilcotton to the relegation final. The Gaels should have enough to stay up.

I'll take Colt Gaels to beat Clonaslee in what could be a really good game. I also think Ballyfin Gaels might just have too much up front for Rosenallis. Expecting 2 good games here actually.

Colt Gaels by 3
Ballyfin Gaels by 2
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 06, 2017, 01:51:10 AM
Two 21 point hammerings.....jaysus!
Those 2 and Camross are the only realistic contenders.
That is two 21 point beatings in less than a month for Clough Ballacolla. Change of management is surely a possibility at this stage.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on August 07, 2017, 12:27:48 PM
What a win for Abbeyleix, fair f**ks to them as a club, they're a testament as to how it should be grown from underage up.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 07, 2017, 01:14:49 PM
Great wins for Abbeyleix and Borris Kilcotton.
A county final appearace is not a stretch now for Abbeyleix.

I can't find confirmation anywhere but I presume that it's C/Ballacolla v R/Errill and Camross v Ballinakill Gaels?

Relegation is hard to call- Castletown have put in two decent performances, but when is the last time they won a senior game? There seems to be a real lack of belief there.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: blueandwhite1 on August 07, 2017, 05:35:32 PM
Great wins for Abbeyleix and Borris Kilcotton.
A county final appearace is not a stretch now for Abbeyleix.

I can't find confirmation anywhere but I presume that it's C/Ballacolla v R/Errill and Camross v Ballinakill Gaels?

Relegation is hard to call- Castletown have put in two decent performances, but when is the last time they won a senior game? There seems to be a real lack of belief there.

According to Laois today it is R/E vs Ballinakill and Camross vs C/B.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on August 08, 2017, 10:37:23 AM
So Abbeyleix and Borris/Kilcotton into the semi finals with the winners of the games between Ballinakill, Clogh/Ballacolla, Camross and Rathdowney.

Will the semi finals be open draw or does it depend on who wins the quarters? Could St Lazarians be drawn against Camross again for example?

Looking at Abbeyleix thre must be a couple more lads that could come in to the senior set up. Reilly should definately get involved as we are light enough with scorers with injuries etc.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: finbar o tool on August 08, 2017, 09:10:40 PM
As far as i know its R/E v C/B and Ballinakill v Camross and its an open draw for the semi finals.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 08, 2017, 09:26:12 PM
As far as i know its R/E v C/B and Ballinakill v Camross and its an open draw for the semi finals.

Surely Borris/Kilcotton & Abbeyleix will be kept apart?
You must be a happy man at how ye are shaping up?
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: blueandwhite1 on August 10, 2017, 11:43:46 AM
Looking at Abbeyleix thre must be a couple more lads that could come in to the senior set up. Reilly should definately get involved as we are light enough with scorers with injuries etc.

Do you mean the Laois set up? Would be surprised in Eoin Reilly isn't asked back in as an outfield player.

What we desperately need though is a few backs. Anyone any opinion on what backs might be able to step up next year? Lots of noise about the quality of Abbeyleix and Borris Kilcotton backs so far in the championship but are any of them good enough for inter county?
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on August 10, 2017, 01:11:03 PM
We haven't an abundance of forwards either. The 2 Lee's made a huge difference this year in the backs but with Keenan not committing, Picky injured, PJ Scully also suffering we don't have enough. I know there were a lot of injuries and Kings sending off but we were short forwards against Dublin. Cha, Willie Dunphy out.
Someone with the goal sense that Tommy Fitz had would be great.
I agree though that if we could get a couple more backs of decent quality into the panel it would be of huge benefit as injuries there would also leave us in bother. I suppose a strengthening of the panel all round with decent quality, committed players. It will be good to see if we could have a better cut off the likes of Limerick next year in the league.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: TheGiantSquid on August 19, 2017, 06:17:17 PM
Who does everyone want to get relegated? Portlaoise or Castletown it is a win win for the neutrals and there will certainly be no love lost on the banks or between the white lines .
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 20, 2017, 10:05:38 PM
Two fair contests in Portlaoise!

Love watching Ballinakill- make great use of what they have, but it's hard to see a final coming. Jackman was so influential again from open play.

The other game was a shock for me.Ballacolla were really up for it & got it very right tactically. Dunphy I thought was brilliant. There could be life in them yet!
The winner looks like coming from Borris Kilcotton & Camross!

No surpise in the results from Mountrath earlier. I'd imagine the performance v The Harps will cement Shanahoe Gaels for a second term & a second year at Senior should be of benefit to a young Castletown team.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: merman on August 20, 2017, 11:58:58 PM
I'd completely wrote off Clough/Ballacolla; didn't see that coming. Huge performances from Aidan Corby and Willie Hyland. I think Ronan Broderick is worth a look with Laois too.
Hard on RE to lose Mark Kavanagh, Liam O'Connell and especially Joe Fitz. Lack a little depth in their forward line and with Purcell and King relatively subdued, it left them a little short.
Referee was very hard on CB too I must add.

Camross worthy winners in the first game after weathering a decent Ballinakill revival after half-time. They'll fancy their chances against Borris/Kilcotton and will revel going in as underdogs.

Wasn't in Mountrath but sounds comprehensive. Castletown will be a threat next year.

Borris/Kilcotton standout favourites as things stand.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on August 21, 2017, 10:51:08 AM
Camross v Borris/Kilcotton has the makings of an epic encounter.

Hard to know how the Abbeyleix v Ballacolla game will go. Abbeyleix must be full of confidence after defeating Camross however Ballacolla have been there before and know what it takes. As proved over the weekend they have big game players. Hard to fathom how they turned it around after such a hiding in the last round.

On thing that's interesting from reading the reports is that the stand out names are either current or former county men which isn't always the case in the football championship
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 21, 2017, 02:51:48 PM
I'd completely wrote off Clough/Ballacolla

So had I!
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Ogie on September 08, 2017, 02:13:22 PM
Any verdicts or previews of the Senior Hurling Semi Finals??
Clough Ballacolla & Borris Kilcotton final for me.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on September 08, 2017, 03:15:03 PM
Any verdicts or previews of the Senior Hurling Semi Finals??
Clough Ballacolla & Borris Kilcotton final for me.

I think there will be a "shock" in one of them.

Abbeyleix probably be least favoured of the four. Have lots of hurlers. I presume some of C/B's injuries are beginning to heal. If they can get over this game it'll begin to look like their mid season meltdown was well timed!
Being in semi finals on an almost annual basis has to count for something. Any new team that has come to the top in the last 30 years has had to serve their time in a few semi finals (Rathdowney Errill, Clough Ballacolla, Borris Kilcotton, Castletown, Clonaslee Gaels/Tinnahinch). I like the look of Abbeyleix, but I don't think they are anymore special than the teams above. A final is coming, but I don't think it will be 2017.
Wouldn't be shocked eitherways, but Clough Ballcolla by 6! Hyland to star.

Borris Kilcotton have been on an ominous march all year. Their scoring threat is well flagged, but I think Camross can match it.
Zane, Mark Dowling, Holmes, Andrew & Ciaran Collier, Gilmartin, Mossy Burke all usually score from play. Not to mention Dean Delaney, who I think is criminally under rated. They will have a plan and will suck the life out of the game when necessary. Gearoid Burke is the best centre back in the county, and with Damien Keenan still hurling like a chap beside him and Palmer mopping up ball inside, there is a serious platform there to supply ball.
Borris Kilcotton have enough talent to win any game, but they are surely not as good as the Clough Ballacolla result makes them look?
I'd favour Camross by 4, Ciaran Collier to star.
John Lalor has been having some fairly erratic performances this year- hopefully he is low key on Sunday.


Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on September 08, 2017, 06:28:04 PM
Good analysis there Keyser.

Would Gearoid Burke come back in with the county? Any particular reason why he stayed away?
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on September 09, 2017, 04:17:26 PM
From what I know, Burke just isn't bothered. Pity. Himself and Keenan would be some addition to county team. Would make some difference to Camross this time of the year to have had the two of them there too.

On the Senior A semi finals. I'd expect that they will both be tight.

Rosenallis V Colt Gaels is interesting. Colt probably favourites, but the quality of opposition they have faced was desperate. Shanahoe were a no show, and then the Clonaslee game was atrocious by all acccounts. Rosenallis on the other hand have played the two best teams in the competition, holding their own against both. They were impressive in dismantling Mountrath in the quarters in terms of taking scores.
Semi finals are always hard won. It's not going to be a nice evening. Rosenallis know how to win games like this, there is no evidence that Colt do. If it comes down to spirit and hard work I don't think a Gaels team can match a team like Rosenallis.
Going on quality of opposition played to date and a proven ability to win games, I'll go for Rosenallis by 6 with Ronan Murray starring!

Ballyfin Gaels V The Harps is equally interesting. Ballyfin are well set up, organised and play to their strengths. Being out of the football for the last few weeks will also have been a help. The Harps simply have to win, and there is enough of a core of experienced senior hurlers right down the middle to do so. If they stand up and scrap it out, they younger fellas around the fringes are more than good enough to get the scores needed. I expect John Brophy to have a massive influence on this, and I reckon Conor Brophy and Padraig Delaney could end up with decent tallies.
The Harps to come good and win by 7.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on September 10, 2017, 06:14:49 PM
Two fairly one sided semi finals. Were Borris not up for the fight. Very hard to win back to back titles anymore.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on September 10, 2017, 06:39:00 PM
I called the Senior well! I should have left it at that!  ;D
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on September 10, 2017, 10:08:28 PM
Also, major repercussions for the 2018 Senior A championship- two big guns there instead of one for the first time!
Relegation from the Senior championship now becomes a major poisoned chalice!
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Post by: Dave like the tv channel on September 10, 2017, 10:39:41 PM
Who was the last senior team not to bounce back up? Not talking about the yo-yo clubs, but the established teams.
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Post by: Keyser Söze on September 10, 2017, 10:45:24 PM
Clonad I would say. They were going for a long time, but kept hanging on.

Or would you classify Mountrath as a yo-yo team? Senior for roundabout 10 years before going down (I think for 2013 when the championship went to 8 teams.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: merman on September 10, 2017, 10:56:01 PM
I was wrong with all 4 predictions.

Rosenallis never showed up; poor individual performances from a number of their key players. Colt Gaels worthy winners; Clonad lads have given them a boost. Will go in as underdogs.

Very disappointed with Abbeyleix. Ridiculous shooting with the wind cost them scores that would have had them closer, if not ahead at half time. I did feel their win over Camross was overstated as we saw a Camross performance that day as bad as I can ever remember. CB did enough and have a steely determination about them; Willie Hyland was excellent, comfortably the best individual performance of the weekend.

The Harps were my bankers. Poor on the pitch; poor on the line. No leaders. Feel bad for them to be honest. Ballyfin Gaels full value for the win. I'd fancy them strongly in the final; very powerful and athletic side.

BK had no answer for Camross in terms of intensity and game management. Camross dictated everything and I was disappointed with BK's second half showing. A few of their marquee forwards didn't contribute enough from play.

Camross and Ballyfin Gaels look the likely favourites for me.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on September 10, 2017, 11:46:49 PM
Good analysis there Merman.
I think Rosenallis should really be in the final, but overall they will be happy enough with their year. Going to be a very competitive grade for the foreseeable!
I don't know where The Harps go from here. How long is it since they won a championship match of any note? 4/5 years?

What happened B/K happens to a lot of teams going for 2 in a row, having won their first. Everything seems to be going swimmingly all year and when they eventually hit a bump on the road the wheels totally fall off. That and the fact that for all of their talent they don't really have any subs! Camross had a much stronger bench. There isn't a lot coming through in the next 3/4 years to make that bench stronger either.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on September 11, 2017, 03:02:26 PM
I haven't seen any club hurling games this year however i will go to the final.

Have any lads that are not already on the panel shown anything that would make them worth a call? The likes of Zane and Willie Hyland aside even though they are still up there with the best but won't be back. We mentioned Eoin Reilly who would be worth a shot but is there anyone else that would add to the panel?
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: steven seagal on September 11, 2017, 04:25:30 PM
Reilly is working out in Abu Dhabi now, so I doubt he'll be involved. Of the lads not currently there, Gearoid Burke would be the biggest addition, but he doesn't seem to have the interest. Saw Rathdowney-Errill a couple of times and thought James Ryan did alright, might be worth a call up.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: The Rover on September 11, 2017, 05:12:12 PM
maybe Liam Delaney Abbeyleix could be a future prospect.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on September 11, 2017, 06:10:31 PM
Was he minor last year?
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: The Rover on September 11, 2017, 06:29:35 PM
not 100% sure about last year but he was the year before.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: merman on September 12, 2017, 07:46:43 AM
Delaney was a minor 2 years ago. Was with the 21s last year.
Definitely worth a look.

With 2 Gaels teams in the Senior A Final, where does that leave us with who goes forward to Leinster?
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on September 12, 2017, 08:05:19 AM
With 2 Gaels teams in the Senior A Final, where does that leave us with who goes forward to Leinster?
A play off between The Harps and Rosenallis I'd presume.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on September 12, 2017, 09:26:31 AM
Presuming they both want to play in the competition!
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on September 12, 2017, 09:56:03 AM
Presuming they both want to play in the competition!
The prize is not playing in it. Loser goes forward for their sins.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: merman on September 21, 2017, 02:30:09 PM
I'm going to give Camross and Ballyfin Gaels hesitant nods for this weekend.

Camross really should beat CB. They have the cohesion and strength to grind teams down and I don't see them conceding more than 12-15 scores. Their forwards haven't exactly clicked this year in the championship but the hope is that if even 2/3 can contribute a little extra then Keenan will provide the rest. I'd also expect Dwane Palmer to start at full-forward and he's had reward there before in big games. The only fear I would have for Camross is the weight of expectation; nothing short of a Championship would have been deemed acceptable from the minute they started out this year. They've claimed Palmer and Brady Cups but they will count for nothing should they be denied on Sunday.
For CB, they deserve credit for resurrecting their year. I'd give them a chance as they have the experience and quality that demands respect. The concern is what will happen if Camross shackle Hyland and impose their game onto the CB forwards and midfield. If CB can hurl their game, can play to their strengths and if their forwards deliver, then they might just pull through. Their return of 3 titles in the last 8 years is a decent return; 4 in 9 would be huge, I'd imagine this would be the sweetest after the way they were wrote off by many this year, myself included.

Ultimately, I feel the loss of Picky is huge; perhaps insurmountable. I think Camross have that bit between their teeth and there is a steely focus about them all year, even up to this media-ban.
I don't think it will be a shootout like last year's Final and I'm siding with Camross to complete the treble.
CB 0.12 - 0.16 Camross

Ballyfin Gaels sauntered through Div 2 of the league and will be buoyed by the Mountmellick lads who have had a great year themselves. They are athletic and powerful and Fintan Deegan has proved himself an astute coach. I like Finn at centre-back and the likes of Eanna Lyons, Gareth Dunphy and George Lanham should all register from play.
For Colt Gaels, they've been boosted by the Clonad lads and having Garoid Parkinson fully involved this year has re-energised their midfield. Colt performed well on their own in Div 1B and they'll be quietly confident that they have come in nicely under the radar here. The farce of Clonad hurling less than 24 hours earlier will do them no favours, however, and I don't know if they'll be able to hold the Ballyfin forwards.

I'm going to give Ballyfin Gaels the edge here; 2.12 - 1.10

Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on September 23, 2017, 10:59:03 PM
Ok, big day of hurling tomorrow. In both games, all known form and results to date point to an obvious winner. Will it pan out that way?

Senior Final
Camross are what they are, a combination that adds up to more than the sum of their parts is the general consensus. But that would not be giving them the credit they deserve. From 1-15, and beyond, they have hurlers. Most of them laden down with medals from underage right up to Senior. All of them can hurl. All of them work hard and all of them always seem to know what is expected of them each time they are on the ball. They are the best prepared club team I have ever seen in Laois.
It is the small things. Watch their defence tomorrow. 2 of them are expected to use physicality and mop up ball, before handing it off, another two are expected to hurl slightly loose, trusted to read the game and act as outlets for the two above. Gearoid Burke commands the centre and performs all sorts of roles. Joe Phelan is almost a "utility player" and will hurl at corner back, full back and possibly wing back tomorrow.
There is no luck attached to the wins they have had over the past 5 years. They are ferocious, and more importantly, methodical.
They deserve the breaks they get.
Both midfielders were excellent the last day. Again, playing to a very defined role. One whose job it was to win possession, carry through tackles and lay it off. The other played a "trequartista" role- "do as you please, but do it well!". That man needs no introduction.
They have a scoring threat as I outlined before the semi final (scroll up!). Palmer is a "new" addition to this scoring threat. Lively and skillful. Takes serious watching.

Clough Ballacolla are a bit of an enigma. No team that loses by 21 points mid season should get within an asses roar of a county final, let alone win one. Never mind a team who manages to lose twice by that margin. They should be a write off. They were always going to hurl well against Rathdowney Errill, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't get the credit they deserve for doing so.
They were always going to beat Abbeyleix, but again they went and did it.
I would have concerns over the mobility of 2 of their starting 6 backs and also another they may need to bring on in defence. From midfield up mobility isn't an issue. What Hanlon and Coonan no longer have in speed they cover for with cleverness.
I think Tom Delaney should be on the half back line. This would make Clough Ballacolla a much stronger unit as far as I am concerned.
The two losses will act as serious motivators for Clough Ballacolla, as will the sight of the finish line looming in the horizon for many that take the field tomorrow- There are 5/6 guys starting tomorrow who you would be hard pressed to GUARANTEE another final appearance to (by my reckoning only Damien Keenan fits that bill for Camross). The aforementioned mobility at the back could be exposed tomorrow.
Midfield will hold their own.
Up front Ballacolla have scorers. I tipped Ballacolla to win in 2015 (here or on laoistalk) because of their greater spread of potential scorers. They don't necessarily have an advantage over Camross in this department anymore, but they still have scorers.
Like the semi final I can see Hyland delivering big time tomorrow. Cometh the hour, cometh the man. The brief sojourn at centre back may have inadvertently helped strum up a freshness and desire for hurling on the half forward line. Him keeping Gearoid Burke busy could open up gaps elsewhere for tap over points. Burke does a huge amount of covering across the back line.

Doran v Hanlon
Phelan, Phelan & Burke v Delaney, Maher & Doyle
McEvoy, Cleere & Broderick v Keenan, Dooley & Burke
Keenan & Duggan v Delaney & Corby.
Collier, Collier & Delaney v Hyland, Phelan & Coonan
Palmer, Dowling & Holmes v Dunphy, Bergin & Hanlon

It should be Camross. But when you look at the possible lines above. Neither team stands out as particularly superior to the other.
It may come down to decisions made on the line.
When I look at Camross on the line I see decisiveness, aggression and methodical planning. A dictatorship at times too!
When I look at Clough Ballacolla I don't see the above. There is often an air of "too many chiefs......".

There is another aspect to this. The idea that "Camross always hurl in finals". Not true. They were terrible in '14, not hectic in '15 and even when they won in '13, Borris Kilcotton froze on the day. I am not buying that "Camross hurl in finals". I also don't agree with Merman's comment above that nothing short of a championship win would have been deemed acceptable out of this year. They are not that outstanding. I don't believe Camross people think they are either.

I am finding it tough to call this. I think Clough Ballacolla will take it right to the wire. Will they cross the line?
To contradict alot of what I said above, yes, I think they will. Clough Ballacolla to take it by about 5 points in a mild surprise.

SENIOR 'A' FINAL
I am not going to go into the detail I did above, but Ballyfin Gaels are favourites, and will win this as far as I am concerned. They are a year and a half on the go and have performed in every single championship match they have played. That has included games vs The Harps, Rosenallis and Castletown. Despite how the semi final result panned out, I rate all three of those above Colt Gaels.
Ballyfin were very close to winning this final last year. To come back this year and beat a team like The Harps in such a methodical way in the semi final is testament to both their ability and to the clever way they set up. They will play a sweeper, two if you want them to. They will soak up pressure and carry the ball out.
Finn, Hartnett, Lowry, Bermingham, Dunphy and Lyons will all score form play. Colt Gaels won't match this.

U17 Final
Three points of importance here.
1) Castletown Slieve Bloom have a large number of the team that lost to Camross in the minor final available to play at this age grade.
2) Underage hurling in Camross will have received a huge boost with the minor win. The lads that played in that final will be full of confidence tomorrow.
3) Camross "Gaels" must be a huge area to pick from? Difficult to know how much stronger Mountmellick, Ballyfin and Emo will make them.
A bit of a shot in the dark, but I will go with Castletown Slieve Bloom to be hurt enough from the minor final to take a win here.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on September 24, 2017, 09:01:57 AM
Camross carry on with the same shit, the inbred bullshite that only they believe in, the 'dark arts' of abuse & stopping free flowing hurling, abuse people on the line & from behind the goal, get ahead & then stop the game every chance you get, led by an old school leader on the line that they believe in,  BK fell for it, Clough Ballacolla won't, I'm no Clough Ballacolla fan but for Laois hurling we should be damning those Camross antics & hoping hurling wins out, Clough Ballacolla havegeexperience & quality

Rule 101- Don't post when drunk!
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on September 24, 2017, 11:58:00 AM
a couple of hours to the action and the signs are for a dry afternoon.

I think the senior b will be a very tight affair and it could come down to the better conversion rate from frees.  Personally I am against "gales amalgams" functioning outside the highest club grade, and todays final is a slap in the face for those single entity clubs operating at "b" level.  Ballyfin to scrape it.


The 2016 A championship was a vintage version with a memorable drawn final.  I think the standard of fare in 2017 has taken a mighty dip and the two relatively lifeless semi finals continued a low standard championship.  Not one team at Senior A level has an unbeaten record in the championship. If you were to delete the Camross-Abbeyleix game from memory, then the black and amber would be strong favourites, that defeat hinted that as others say they are a functioning sum of the parts.
Clough Ballacolla needed to peak to beat Rathdowney and they went through the motions against Abbeyleix once they started strongly against the breeze, the second half of that game was almost like a tame challenge game. I do fear the legs may be gone on some of the C/B veterans, today may tell.

My overall read on Camross is that they are akin to Tyrone in football...very functional, programmed and a cornerstone of their game plan is to establish a lead and thereafter control the game...........if they lead early I suspect they will win in a workmanlike fashion, similar to the Borris semi.

The fly in the ointment would be C/B flying out of the traps and getting a lead, then just as we saw with Camross v Abbeyleix(or Dublin-Tyrone), the "program" then stutters, and C/B could well hold on.
Whoever  is in front by 2 or 3 points in the first 15 minutes is likely to win....could we have another draw in 2017?
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: blueandwhite1 on September 24, 2017, 10:08:47 PM
Congrats to Camross. They beat Rathdowney Errill, B/K and C/B in the same year and ground it out today. Were out of the game for long periods and very wasteful but overall were the best team in 2017. 4 champions in as many years. Can't be bad for Laois hurling especially given that Abbeyleix and Castletown are improving. Standard was pretty poor today and both teams played much more poorly than they are capable of. Exciting finish though. Zane stood up in the end when it mattered after a poor game by his standards.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on September 25, 2017, 12:13:19 AM
Now that they're champions maybe they'll do a bit more for the county.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: BallyroanAbu on September 25, 2017, 09:31:52 AM
Congrats to Camross. They beat Rathdowney Errill, B/K and C/B in the same year and ground it out today. Were out of the game for long periods and very wasteful but overall were the best team in 2017. 4 champions in as many years. Can't be bad for Laois hurling especially given that Abbeyleix and Castletown are improving. Standard was pretty poor today and both teams played much more poorly than they are capable of. Exciting finish though. Zane stood up in the end when it mattered after a poor game by his standards.

I would think quite the opposite that 4 champions in as many years, implies that there is no outstanding team.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: burdizzo on September 25, 2017, 09:40:49 AM
Maybe, maybe not...
While it may not have been the best final ever, it was pure gold compared to what went before. Ballyfin had it won, but completely went to sleep in the second half. Both sides were overly reliant on frees and both missed gaping goal chances. God knows how Ballyfin will make the step up to senior proper, but good luck to them.
In a way, the it seemed like the better team lost the senior. However, Camross had the better spread of scorers, and got the goals at the right time, and for more than that you can't ask. Hope they do well in Leinster, though it seems a long way away.
Thought Stapleton was very fussy in the first half, but for a time in the second let practically everything go! But it was enjoyable, overall.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Unlaoised on September 25, 2017, 10:01:30 AM
Some achievement for Ballyfin to be senior in both codes is their any other team bar Portlaoise that has done this?
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on September 25, 2017, 10:07:47 AM
Hyland aside, the CB forwards only scored 1-01 between them and that's not going to win you a title.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: SCFC on September 25, 2017, 10:54:43 AM
Some achievement for Ballyfin to be senior in both codes is their any other team bar Portlaoise that has done this?
The Harps years ago. Possibly Clonaslee too.
Park/Ratheniska?
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: town1980 on September 25, 2017, 11:56:52 AM
i enjoyed the hurling yesterday,how willie hyland didnt get MOM is actually beyond me ,15 points i think he got pure madness,can some one ask me why people were stopped from going to the terrace??well donr to both sides i would have loved a draw not as exciting as last year and ballacolla will be raging  with there first half display it cost them in the end,well donr both teams
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Zooming around on September 25, 2017, 04:01:19 PM
Clough/Ballacolla seem to think they were done out of a certain point in the first half. A big call if true seeing that they were only beaten by a point.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: blueandwhite1 on September 25, 2017, 05:04:27 PM
i enjoyed the hurling yesterday,how willie hyland didnt get MOM is actually beyond me ,15 points i think he got pure madness,can some one ask me why people were stopped from going to the terrace??well donr to both sides i would have loved a draw not as exciting as last year and ballacolla will be raging  with there first half display it cost them in the end,well donr both teams

P*ss off with your irrelevant and gibberish opinions back to the football board. Hard enough to listen to you over there without you thinking you know something about hurling too and ruining this board as you have with the football one.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: blueandwhite1 on September 25, 2017, 05:07:18 PM
Congrats to Camross. They beat Rathdowney Errill, B/K and C/B in the same year and ground it out today. Were out of the game for long periods and very wasteful but overall were the best team in 2017. 4 champions in as many years. Can't be bad for Laois hurling especially given that Abbeyleix and Castletown are improving. Standard was pretty poor today and both teams played much more poorly than they are capable of. Exciting finish though. Zane stood up in the end when it mattered after a poor game by his standards.

I would think quite the opposite that 4 champions in as many years, implies that there is no outstanding team.

Ridiculous suggestion. Having 4+ teams capable of winning drives the standard up. You mean it would be better if it was like the football championship?
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: BallyroanAbu on September 25, 2017, 05:48:38 PM
Congrats to Camross. They beat Rathdowney Errill, B/K and C/B in the same year and ground it out today. Were out of the game for long periods and very wasteful but overall were the best team in 2017. 4 champions in as many years. Can't be bad for Laois hurling especially given that Abbeyleix and Castletown are improving. Standard was pretty poor today and both teams played much more poorly than they are capable of. Exciting finish though. Zane stood up in the end when it mattered after a poor game by his standards.


I would think quite the opposite that 4 champions in as many years, implies that there is no outstanding team.

Ridiculous suggestion. Having 4+ teams capable of winning drives the standard up. You mean it would be better if it was like the football championship?

My own opinion is quite the opposite I believe  in the vast majority of cases the more competitive the championship, the more likely it's weak.  That's not to say, the Hurling is more interesting and better entertainment as the crowd yesterday definitely attained to.   The football of course is not as watchable and is more predictable but competitive does not mean higher standards.

Yesterday's Crowd was huge so people enjoy it
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: on the hop on September 25, 2017, 07:31:45 PM
It was a poor game yesterday, there was a great crowd but wasn't much atmosphere. The early goals knocked ballacolla back but Hyland the only decent forward dragged them back into it. Cam Ross made s late burst to win it but ballacolla probably feel if they had hurled at all they would have won it.

On the county front there was nothing new on show
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: town1980 on September 25, 2017, 10:43:59 PM
Blueandwhite1 your a bit of an eejit are you??
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: blueandwhite1 on September 26, 2017, 02:35:41 PM
Blueandwhite1 your a bit of an eejit are you??

I won't engage further with you, gave up doing it on the football forum a long time ago as I decided there were better things to do with my time than react to your puerile jibes.

And it's 'you're', not 'your'.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Keyser Söze on September 26, 2017, 08:06:38 PM
Everyone entitled to an opinion.

Camross not getting the credit they deserve, again!

They know how to win, they know what they have to do, and they execute. Couple of slices of luck along the way but scoring two early goals was exactly how they want to play.
Clough Ballacolla fought manfully and squandered 2-3 really good goal chances. Had the goal came even 5/6 minutes earlier they'd have won the match. I don't know how many county finals are left in Ballacolla. They had no real impact off the bench and to be honest they are going to have to wait 3-4 years to get new blood of the quality they need. There will be big holes in the team by that stage, but all small clubs go through these cycles.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: HURLING1 on September 26, 2017, 08:37:40 PM
Great championship right through. Some great games. Ballacolla will be disappointed but after their start to the year they should be proud of Sundays effort. Camross were simply the best team in all Senior competitions this year.
They were also probably the only team in it with a bench strong enough to make a difference.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on September 27, 2017, 12:17:02 PM
Some great long distance point scoring in the game.

Will Camross give Leinster a go? They have enough quality to do so.

Definately a couple of players on that team that would boost the county team if they gave the committment.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on September 27, 2017, 01:17:15 PM
Some great long distance point scoring in the game.

Will Camross give Leinster a go? They have enough quality to do so.

Definately a couple of players on that team that would boost the county team if they gave the committment.

you'd hope so,they play carlow champions first, then winners of OY v WH for a place in the leinster final.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on September 27, 2017, 02:47:38 PM
That's a very decent draw with the Dublin, KK and Wex winners on the other side. LAois clubs have really not made any impression on the club championship in recent years. Hopefully Camross get back training and give it a go. Some incentive with that draw in fairness.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on September 27, 2017, 04:59:26 PM
That's a very decent draw with the Dublin, KK and Wex winners on the other side. LAois clubs have really not made any impression on the club championship in recent years. Hopefully Camross get back training and give it a go. Some incentive with that draw in fairness.

in fairness to B/K last year,they gave Cuala more of a game than a lot of the opposition on their march to an All Ireland.

Camross should be aiming for a leinster final appearence.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: burdizzo on September 27, 2017, 06:34:46 PM
Sure, we said the same thing 'bout the u21s this year, and look what happened there. Camross could easily be beaten by the Carlow champions.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: Don Draper on September 27, 2017, 08:28:12 PM
Sure, we said the same thing 'bout the u21s this year, and look what happened there. Camross could easily be beaten by the Carlow champions.
Carlow had a team in an All Ireland final only a few short years ago, Camross, and everyone else would do well to remember that.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: clonadmad on September 27, 2017, 10:19:42 PM
Sure, we said the same thing 'bout the u21s this year, and look what happened there. Camross could easily be beaten by the Carlow champions.
Carlow had a team in an All Ireland final only a few short years ago, Camross, and everyone else would do well to remember that.

That's the great thing about the club hurling all ireland right there,a counties relative strength or weakness  often has little bearing
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: redsetanta on September 29, 2017, 12:55:22 PM
Antrim are testament to that.

Last Leinster won by a Laois team was Camross in 1996.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: burdizzo on September 30, 2017, 06:55:01 PM
R/E and Trumera in intermediate final. I'd imagine R/E will win it.
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: burdizzo on October 08, 2017, 07:33:44 PM
How wrong I was!
Title: Re: Club Hurling
Post by: SCFC on October 08, 2017, 07:43:27 PM
Nothing against Rathdowney Errill but great to see Trumera and Ballypickas winning championships today.
Two very small clubs fighting for their very existence. Delighted for them both.