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Title: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 21, 2016, 10:49:26 AM
As requested and probably long overdue.

Battle of the b**tard's was pretty epic I thought.

Very good interview with the director here.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/19/game-thrones-battle-director

He's also doing next week's episode.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Under Lights on June 21, 2016, 10:54:33 AM
Great episode.

Think GRRM is a bit of a feminist with Sansa, Yara, Dany, Brienne, Cersai becoming the strongest characters and leaders of their tribes as such.

Are we assuming Sansa sort of double crossed Jon to get an advantage for the Knights Of The Vale coming in late so that she could save the day.

I must say I hated Ramsey and fair play to the lad that played him. Sold it perfectly.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 21, 2016, 11:10:53 AM
I wouldn't say she double crossed Jon, she obviously knew they needed a plan B and knew she would have to make a sacrifice (maybe marriage to Little Finger) and just waited to see how the battle evolved. She's definitely grown darker and that smile at the end was a little chilling.

Jon didn't come across as a greater leader in this episode, he let his emotions rule the head and they would have lost the battle because of it. Assume his role going forward now though is to rally troops for the battle North of the Wall.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: lurganblue on June 21, 2016, 12:38:33 PM
Probably the best episode of the show for me.  Definitely the best battle scene.  I thought it was so well shot.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: leenie on June 21, 2016, 12:53:34 PM
Best episode of a programme I've ever seen .. This season has been brilliant


Ramsey got what he deserved but he was an fantastic character and the fella acting him was brilliant , hope to see him in many more things ..

Hondur and the giant dead ..  :'( 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Under Lights on June 21, 2016, 01:00:54 PM
Best episode of a programme I've ever seen .. This season has been brilliant


Ramsey got what he deserved but he was an fantastic character and the fella acting him was brilliant , hope to see him in many more things ..

Hondur and the giant dead ..  :'(

One giant died holding the door the other died smashing a door down. Makes you think.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: ziggysego on June 21, 2016, 02:31:51 PM
Fantastic episode and to think 3 fire breathing dragons wasn't even the highlight of the episode! The battle was brilliant, in acting, editing and sound. Ramsey the b**tard got what he deserved and I'm glad it was Sansa that dealt his final faith. I do feel as well, there was been a power shift between Jon and Sansa, as it was ultimately her that won the battle.

Also, Daenerys and Yara huh...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: lurganblue on June 21, 2016, 03:27:17 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36586696/game-of-thrones-actor-ramsay-bolton-ive-been-lying-to-everyone-for-six-months (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36586696/game-of-thrones-actor-ramsay-bolton-ive-been-lying-to-everyone-for-six-months)

Iwan Rheon was excellent.  I thought he playe dthe role so well.  Game of Thrones has thrown up some great characters that we all love to hate.  Theon, Joffrey, Ramsey... who next? Euron Greyjoy maybe
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Billys Boots on June 21, 2016, 03:33:34 PM
Probably the best episode of the show for me.  Definitely the best battle scene.  I thought it was so well shot.

I still think the white walkers battle last season made more of an impression - there wasn't much in it though. 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Under Lights on June 21, 2016, 04:01:24 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36586696/game-of-thrones-actor-ramsay-bolton-ive-been-lying-to-everyone-for-six-months (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36586696/game-of-thrones-actor-ramsay-bolton-ive-been-lying-to-everyone-for-six-months)

Iwan Rheon was excellent.  I thought he playe dthe role so well.  Game of Thrones has thrown up some great characters that we all love to hate.  Theon, Joffrey, Ramsey... who next? Euron Greyjoy maybe

Sansa. She is turning evil. Ramsey has infected her and made her into a right wrong one.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on June 21, 2016, 04:26:58 PM
Best episode of a TV show? Ffs, calm the bap. Battle of Blackwater, Red Wedding, Mountain and Viper, Battle of Castle Black when Ygritte died all far better episodes

This series has been very up and down with a lot of inconsistency, probably as a result of not having completed source material to adapt for the screen for the first time.

GRRM a feminist? With all the rape and prostitution and domestic violence? Really?

Ghost should have killed Ramsay, not his own dogs. Would have been a better angle - the Starks back in Winterfell with their direwolves.

Are we allowed discuss things from the books in this thread? E.g. Jon Snow's future (and past) and what that might mean for the "power shift" Ziggy was on about?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Under Lights on June 21, 2016, 04:37:41 PM



Bound to see the conclusion to The Tower Of Joy scene in the next episode.

Do you think its the TV guys driving the female surge to the top? I don't. Think thats GRRM's vision. Girl power overcome all the early raping etc to rise above it etc etc.
He also sees himself as Sam. So no doubt he will have a huge influence at some stage.

The end is near.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on June 21, 2016, 04:47:43 PM
Of course it's the TV guys - in the books it's not Sansa who is married to Ramsay. She's still firmly in the Vale. Yara (Asha in the books) also has a completely different angle in the books and isn't off stealing ships and meeting queens.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: leenie on June 21, 2016, 04:57:53 PM
Nah no discussion of the books , hate reading and don't want anything spoiled ..


And how does one calm their baps ?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on June 21, 2016, 05:10:29 PM
The title of the thread says "spoilers" in it. That's plenty of stuff that has been indicated and hinted at, both in the books and in the show, that hasn't been explicitly called out in either. I think discussion and speculation is fine.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Under Lights on June 21, 2016, 06:43:37 PM
As do I. He wilder the theories the better. I do think that there has defiantly been a change in shock value since they no longer have the book to follow- afeared now of fan uproar
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 21, 2016, 07:39:55 PM
Great show and last night was excellent. The battle scenes were reminiscent of the battle scenes in Braveheart I thought. Snow definitely showing that he is a great rally leader but his softness is a weakness, Sansa definitely harder and clearly is getting into bed in more ways than one with Little Finger. Bolton was a great character and your man acted his ass off with him. Also the likelihood of a lesbian coupling between the Mother of Dragons and the Iron Island lass is inevitable. Really looking forward to the final show next week!!

On a side note, in a recent house clearance I found some old books from my teenage years, I came across a first edition hardback of the first book. It's in mint condition and worth between £300 and £500. I gonna see if I can pick the other 3 initial first editions as a complete set is worth up to £5k!!!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on June 21, 2016, 08:28:09 PM
Hopefully the other half of the Tower of Joy scene is this week and were finally get confirmation of who Jon's parents are and perhaps what it might mean for the future.

Also think Cersei, Tommen or both are doomed as Cersei inevitably f**ks up her wildfire plan.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: heffo on June 21, 2016, 10:48:06 PM
Best episode yet - brilliant stuff
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omagh_gael on June 21, 2016, 11:30:48 PM
If anyone of you are podcasters I'd highly recommend Bald move. They do three podcasts a week on GoT (as well as lots of other tv series). They do an instant take (20-30mins) directly after the show airs and on Tuesday evenings they release a breakdown of the episode that doesn't contain book spoilers. On Friday they have a spoiler edition that contains theories based on GRRM's source material. An excellent listen if you've time to tune in.

Personally, Battle of the b**tards was my favourite episode of the lot. The Red Wedding didn't hit me as hard as I'm a book reader so knew it was coming. I have thoroughly enjoyed this season apart from the ending of Arya's story in Bravos. No way does she take those gut shots and carry on as she does.

My theory are that Cersei will lose her trial and unleash the wildfire to destroy Baelors Sept. She will take everyone she can, including Tommen (don't forget she would have taken her own kids lives at the end of the battle of Blackwater before Tywin showed up).

Varys will be in Dorne negotiating a safe landing spot for Danerys (Dorne are still loyal to Targareyns). Kings Landing will be bucked due to Cersei and it'll be a case of all paths leading to the north for an epic battle with the WWs.

Three dragons to be mounted by three Targareyens: Danerys, John and Tyrion.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omagh_gael on June 21, 2016, 11:33:35 PM
Sansa cost her brother his life. I guess Bran is the only remaining Stark male at this stage?

Sansa knew the shit, Rickon was dead as soon as the 'pink letter' arrived at Castle Black. John was responsible for a shitload of deaths with his suicide mission causing all their pre battle plans to be tossed out the window.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Over the Bar on June 22, 2016, 12:06:54 AM
I preferred GoTs earlier series which left you WTF just happened. Since Jon Snow came back things take a more predictable turn.  Ramsey was always going to be a mere sideshow villain  and Sansa  & Jon Snow were always going to win that battle.  Most predictable of all was Ramsey being fed to his own dogs after losing Winterfell.  Series 6 a huge disappointment thus far.   

Hopefully when it ends eventually Denarys isn't Queen of the 7 kingdoms and the wildlings to defeat the Whitewalkers!  That would be utter boke!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on June 22, 2016, 06:59:54 AM
I don't think there will be seven kingdoms to rule at the end of it.

Really now, the direction the show has to go is clear. It's ice vs fire, with the fire meaning dragons. That means they have to engineer Dany forgetting about conquest to head north and similarly figure out plot devices to get the other two dragons mounted. Jon looks to be an obvious one as suggested above and perhaps Tyrion, although the evidence is less convincing.

All the guff and nonsense happening in King's Landing and whatever Euron tries to do are just distractions from the main plot.

I agree that the series has gone downhill and was particularly annoyed about how badly written Arya's entire time in Braavos was, especially her escape, which made absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on June 22, 2016, 07:02:25 AM

On a side note, in a recent house clearance I found some old books from my teenage years, I came across a first edition hardback of the first book. It's in mint condition and worth between £300 and £500. I gonna see if I can pick the other 3 initial first editions as a complete set is worth up to £5k!!!

First book was published in 1996. Who are you trying to kid with this "teenager" lark?!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Under Lights on June 22, 2016, 09:22:45 AM
If anyone of you are podcasters I'd highly recommend Bald move. They do three podcasts a week on GoT (as well as lots of other tv series). They do an instant take (20-30mins) directly after the show airs and on Tuesday evenings they release a breakdown of the episode that doesn't contain book spoilers. On Friday they have a spoiler edition that contains theories based on GRRM's source material. An excellent listen if you've time to tune in.

Personally, Battle of the b**tards was my favourite episode of the lot. The Red Wedding didn't hit me as hard as I'm a book reader so knew it was coming. I have thoroughly enjoyed this season apart from the ending of Arya's story in Bravos. No way does she take those gut shots and carry on as she does.

My theory are that Cersei will lose her trial and unleash the wildfire to destroy Baelors Sept. She will take everyone she can, including Tommen (don't forget she would have taken her own kids lives at the end of the battle of Blackwater before Tywin showed up).

Varys will be in Dorne negotiating a safe landing spot for Danerys (Dorne are still loyal to Targareyns). Kings Landing will be bucked due to Cersei and it'll be a case of all paths leading to the north for an epic battle with the WWs.

Three dragons to be mounted by three Targareyens: Danerys, John and Tyrion.

I listen to A Cast Of Kings as a GOT podcast.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: MoChara on June 22, 2016, 09:26:12 AM
Rikon should have Zig Zagged everyone knows when you having arrows shot at you to do that.

Jon Snow is thick as shit solo charging the Boltons

Wun Wun should have been armored up and given a big tree trunk or something he'd have defeated the Boltons near on his own.

I always thought the Fire and Ice dimension was becuase Jon Sno was both Fire and Ice, stark and Targaryen.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Under Lights on June 22, 2016, 09:37:03 AM
Why can't every just get along.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on June 22, 2016, 10:02:27 AM
There is a lot of evidence to suggest that the third dragon rider will be Tyrion as he is apparently of Targaryen blood.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Under Lights on June 22, 2016, 10:30:25 AM
Brienne will turn out to be The Princess That Was Promised.

Anyone read Dunk and Egg? She is obvious a descendant of Dunk.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on June 22, 2016, 06:33:55 PM
There is a lot of evidence to suggest that the third dragon rider will be Tyrion as he is apparently of Targaryen blood.

Plenty to suggest otherwise as well. Jon and Dany are certs, the third one is debatable.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gawa316 on June 22, 2016, 07:08:00 PM
There is a lot of evidence to suggest that the third dragon rider will be Tyrion as he is apparently of Targaryen blood.

Plenty to suggest otherwise as well. Jon and Dany are certs, the third one is debatable.

I think it's going to be Tyrion as well. The time he went in to the place Dany locked up the dragons in, would be a good indicator as he didn't get burnt to a crisp.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: bcarrier on June 22, 2016, 11:14:34 PM
Bran is the important stark.

Check out the asoif reddit or free folk reddit.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omagh_gael on June 23, 2016, 11:47:31 AM
In the books the Mad King claimed first night wedding rights with Johanna Lannister (Tywin's wife) so there is plenty of scope for Tyrion to be a Targaryen thus being a good candidate for a dragon rider.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: johnneycool on June 23, 2016, 12:48:45 PM
In the books the Mad King claimed first night wedding rights with Johanna Lannister (Tywin's wife) so there is plenty of scope for Tyrion to be a Targaryen thus being a good candidate for a dragon rider.

The tower of Joy thing, we're supposed to believe that Jon was born to Lyanna Stark who died giving birth to him, the Da being Rhaegar Targaryen, Tyrions ma also died giving birth to him as did Dany's, so there's a lot in common along with those horny Targaryen's..

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Dinny Breen on June 23, 2016, 01:02:12 PM
What's the craic with Gendry?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: lurganblue on June 23, 2016, 01:28:27 PM
What's the craic with Gendry?


Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Longshanks on June 23, 2016, 01:43:19 PM
What's the craic with Gendry?

I know its random to say the least, hell just get him back to have him murdered or something, put an end to it.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on June 23, 2016, 02:57:00 PM
I assume the show is done with him.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gawa316 on June 23, 2016, 04:35:43 PM
Jeez I forgot all about him, he might have a part to play yet as he's the only person with Baratheon blood left
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on June 27, 2016, 07:46:38 AM
Very good episode, some very dodgy CGI aside. Didn't think Cersei would get rid of quite so many and there was something poetic about her, for once, executing her plan to perfection and still losing. Tommen played an absolute blinder. I don't like how they keep retrofitting book events onto other characters - little birds killing Pycelle instead of Kevan.

Minas Tirith, sorry, Oldtown was suitably impressive, although I can't say I'm looking forward to scenes of Sam studying away. Maybe we'll get a college comedy type thing going on. Sam, a few other trainees, few kegs and some hookers.

Think the Dornish angle might be interesting. With the Queen of Thorns, it should hopefully counteract the awfulness of the Sand Snakes and rescue the good bits of the Dorne plot from the books. Don't think they needed to take this bizarre route and kill Doran, but it is what it is. Given Varys' words of "fire and blood", I wonder if a Dorne/Dany alliance will be a fact in the books as well.

Turned out not to be Red Wedding 2.0 but a jolly good feast altogether. Arya's coldness was thoroughly enjoyable. I think Cersei and the Mountain are the only two left on her list (Hound too I guess but I can't see that happening) so hopefully she makes her way to KL rather than head north.

Surprised to see Littlefinger actually voice his ambition. Ruler of the ashes indeed.

I was surprised how unfulfilling the Tower of Joy scene was given that we've known it for so long. I was half expecting a "his name is Jon" line from Lyanna to really spell it out to anyone who still refuses to get it. Nowy Tends.

None of the above matters though, because this is all Lyanna Mormont's show now. Boss.

Wasn't expecting a coronation of Jon at all. That'll prove a very interesting dynamic between him and Littlefinger.

Not quite sure where Qyburn's authority to enthrone Cersei comes from, what army she has to keep her there or why the people who have been exposed to everything she's done would simply accept it. A bit daft really.

Nice armada scene. About f**king time. However, how and and why the f**k was Varys back on that boat? Nice to see he has a teleporter like Arya and Littlefinger.

Very strong end to a very average season and finally a bit of pace injected.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Linkbox on June 27, 2016, 11:58:00 PM
Varys was on the boat as there was Tyrell and Martell flags shown in the armada. Must be ganging up with them after he spoke to Olenna. She was great as usual.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Linkbox on June 28, 2016, 12:10:35 AM
This guy does great videos as well. Been keeping me going all season - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O6PZx5KlIA
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: lurganblue on June 28, 2016, 12:56:03 PM
quality episode again.  a lot of the stuff you could see was coming.  The only surprising scene was Tommen's exit, and possibly Arya's appearance.  Didnt take her long to travel either.

You would have to assume that the blackfish is not dead as that's twice his death has been discussed and a death that we did not witness.  It's not like the game of thrones team to leave out a nice death scene.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spo
Post by: Syferus on June 29, 2016, 09:46:50 AM
The Blackfish is definitely dead. Probably the only arc that fell flat this year.

I don't see Jon having any interest going south like Robb. His biggest threat might be Sansa, who will clearly have a decision to make to betray her big bro or understand what it means to be Stark. I'm hopeful she'll make the right choice.

Lannisters might as well be gone from the map, they're fucked. Jaime to be the one to kill the Mad Queen.

Series will end with some sort of GOT version of the Avengers, Jon, Daeny, Tyrion, Bran, maybe Brienne/Jaime dealing with the invading zombies. Ironically the White Walkers have always been by far the most generic, weakest least interesting through-line in the whole series.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spo
Post by: nrico2006 on June 29, 2016, 10:25:07 AM
The Blackfish is definitely dead. Propably the only arc that fell flat this year.

I don't see Jon having any interest going south like Robb. His biggest threat might be Sansa, who will clearly have a decision to make to betray her big bro or understand what it means to be Stark. I'm hopeful she'll make the right choice.

Lannisters might as well be gone from the map, they're fucked. Jaime to be the one to kill the Mad Queen.

Series will end with some sort of GOT version of the Avengers, Jon, Daeny, Tyrion, Bran, maybe Brienne/Jaime dealing with the invading zombies. Ironically the White Walkers have always been by far the most generic, weakest least interesting through-line in the whole series.

The only candidates for killing Cersei are her brothers or Arya, but I would put my money on Jaime.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omagh_gael on June 29, 2016, 10:33:05 AM
Maggie the frog's prophecy stated that her three kids would die by her (Cersei's) hand and she herself would be killed by a valonquer (younger brother in High Valereyn). Jaimie was the younger twin and Cersei's actions in the last episode will lead him to be Cersei's downfall. If battle of the b**tards was a 9/10 I think winds of winter has to get the full 10/10. An absolute masterpiece. The director of both episodes (Miguel Sapocnik) should be given the job for all remaining episodes!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on June 29, 2016, 11:17:57 AM
Maggie the frog's prophecy stated that her three kids would die by her (Cersei's) hand and she herself would be killed by a valonquer (younger brother in High Valereyn). Jaimie was the younger twin and Cersei's actions in the last episode will lead him to be Cersei's downfall. If battle of the b**tards was a 9/10 I think winds of winter has to get the full 10/10. An absolute masterpiece. The director of both episodes (Miguel Sapocnik) should be given the job for all remaining episodes!

But Maggy the Frogs prophecy can also be interpreted as 'little sibling' which could lead Arya being the culprit.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omagh_gael on June 29, 2016, 06:18:09 PM
Maggie the frog's prophecy stated that her three kids would die by her (Cersei's) hand and she herself would be killed by a valonquer (younger brother in High Valereyn). Jaimie was the younger twin and Cersei's actions in the last episode will lead him to be Cersei's downfall. If battle of the b**tards was a 9/10 I think winds of winter has to get the full 10/10. An absolute masterpiece. The director of both episodes (Miguel Sapocnik) should be given the job for all remaining episodes!

But Maggy the Frogs prophecy can also be interpreted as 'little sibling' which could lead Arya being the culprit.

I'm pretty certain Valanqar means little brother than little sibling.

The exact prophecy leads me to believe that Jaimie will choke her to death early in the next season when he finds out the truth of what happened whilst he was taking Riverrun.

The excerpt below is taken from the GoT wiki pages:

But the last part of the prophecy is the most intriguing. It is the part that tells of Cersei’s final demise: “When your tears have drowned you, the Valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you.”
The word “Valonqar” means “little brother” in Valyrian. At first glance, “little brother” could refer to Tyrion, who certainly fits the phrase. Tyrion is on a boat with Daenerys, ready to aid the Queen of Dragons in dethroning his sweet sister.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: ziggysego on June 29, 2016, 11:18:15 PM
The director of both episodes (Miguel Sapocnik) should be given the job for all remaining episodes!

Unfortunately it was announced today that he has no part in Season 7. Pity.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omagh_gael on June 30, 2016, 12:27:19 AM
The director of both episodes (Miguel Sapocnik) should be given the job for all remaining episodes!

Unfortunately it was announced today that he has no part in Season 7. Pity.

That's a shame, those last two episodes blew me away.

Btw, looking snazzy on the front cover of Omagh Today, Ziggy!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on June 30, 2016, 08:21:58 AM
Maggie the frog's prophecy stated that her three kids would die by her (Cersei's) hand and she herself would be killed by a valonquer (younger brother in High Valereyn). Jaimie was the younger twin and Cersei's actions in the last episode will lead him to be Cersei's downfall. If battle of the b**tards was a 9/10 I think winds of winter has to get the full 10/10. An absolute masterpiece. The director of both episodes (Miguel Sapocnik) should be given the job for all remaining episodes!

But Maggy the Frogs prophecy can also be interpreted as 'little sibling' which could lead Arya being the culprit.

I'm pretty certain Valanqar means little brother than little sibling.

The exact prophecy leads me to believe that Jaimie will choke her to death early in the next season when he finds out the truth of what happened whilst he was taking Riverrun.

The excerpt below is taken from the GoT wiki pages:

But the last part of the prophecy is the most intriguing. It is the part that tells of Cersei’s final demise: “When your tears have drowned you, the Valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you.”
The word “Valonqar” means “little brother” in Valyrian. At first glance, “little brother” could refer to Tyrion, who certainly fits the phrase. Tyrion is on a boat with Daenerys, ready to aid the Queen of Dragons in dethroning his sweet sister.


I would put my money on it being Jaime, especially after the ending the other night.  Also speculation it could be Arya, who kills Jaime and does the deed using Jaime's face.

I've read a few articles like the one below that speculate that the 'Valonqar' can be intereted as a little sibling and also be genderless, but going with the actual propechy in the season 5 flashback, I'm near sure that Maggy specifically said 'He'.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2016/06/27/when-is-the-game-of-thrones-season-7-release-date-and-what-are-t/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2016/06/27/when-is-the-game-of-thrones-season-7-release-date-and-what-are-t/)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Syferus on June 30, 2016, 08:30:33 AM
Maggie the frog's prophecy stated that her three kids would die by her (Cersei's) hand and she herself would be killed by a valonquer (younger brother in High Valereyn). Jaimie was the younger twin and Cersei's actions in the last episode will lead him to be Cersei's downfall. If battle of the b**tards was a 9/10 I think winds of winter has to get the full 10/10. An absolute masterpiece. The director of both episodes (Miguel Sapocnik) should be given the job for all remaining episodes!

But Maggy the Frogs prophecy can also be interpreted as 'little sibling' which could lead Arya being the culprit.

I'm pretty certain Valanqar means little brother than little sibling.

The exact prophecy leads me to believe that Jaimie will choke her to death early in the next season when he finds out the truth of what happened whilst he was taking Riverrun.

The excerpt below is taken from the GoT wiki pages:

But the last part of the prophecy is the most intriguing. It is the part that tells of Cersei’s final demise: “When your tears have drowned you, the Valonqar shall wrap his hands about your pale white throat and choke the life from you.”
The word “Valonqar” means “little brother” in Valyrian. At first glance, “little brother” could refer to Tyrion, who certainly fits the phrase. Tyrion is on a boat with Daenerys, ready to aid the Queen of Dragons in dethroning his sweet sister.


I would put my money on it being Jaime, especially after the ending the other night.  Also speculation it could be Arya, who kills Jaime and does the deed using Jaime's face.

I've read a few articles like the one below that speculate that the 'Valonqar' can be intereted as a little sibling and also be genderless, but going with the actual propechy in the season 5 flashback, I'm near sure that Maggy specifically said 'He'.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2016/06/27/when-is-the-game-of-thrones-season-7-release-date-and-what-are-t/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2016/06/27/when-is-the-game-of-thrones-season-7-release-date-and-what-are-t/)

Jaime killed the Mad King when he was going to blow up King's Landing with wildfire. He'll be the one to kill the Mad Queen.
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Post by: leenie on July 10, 2016, 07:16:17 PM
Why do the lannisters have such big beds?

Cause if you pushed twins together you make a king
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Post by: lurganblue on July 18, 2017, 03:03:32 PM
It's back! Slow enough start to the new series but i enjoyed it nonetheless.  Setting the scene for some big events to come.

Oul Ed made a cameo appearance. Strange that, and a bit pointless.  Saw a right few people have been quite upset about this. Chill pill needed.

Assuming that was Jorah Mormont in the cell snatching at the bowl?
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Post by: Syferus on July 18, 2017, 03:34:45 PM
It's back! Slow enough start to the new series but i enjoyed it nonetheless.  Setting the scene for some big events to come.

Oul Ed made a cameo appearance. Strange that, and a bit pointless.  Saw a right few people have been quite upset about this. Chill pill needed.

Assuming that was Jorah Mormont in the cell snatching at the bowl?

He wasn't the first musician to appear in the show..
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Post by: gawa316 on July 18, 2017, 03:35:52 PM
It's back! Slow enough start to the new series but i enjoyed it nonetheless.  Setting the scene for some big events to come.

Oul Ed made a cameo appearance. Strange that, and a bit pointless.  Saw a right few people have been quite upset about this. Chill pill needed.

Assuming that was Jorah Mormont in the cell snatching at the bowl?

Yeah read he went there to see if he could get healed. Stannis's wee doll was cured so it can been done.
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Post by: JoG2 on July 18, 2017, 03:41:35 PM
It's back! Slow enough start to the new series but i enjoyed it nonetheless. Setting the scene for some big events to come.

Oul Ed made a cameo appearance. Strange that, and a bit pointless.  Saw a right few people have been quite upset about this. Chill pill needed.

Assuming that was Jorah Mormont in the cell snatching at the bowl?

much like the previous 72 episodes. Starting to feel a bit like 'Lost' now in that the audience or the writers probably haven't a clue what's gonna happen
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Post by: gallsman on July 18, 2017, 03:45:01 PM
It's back! Slow enough start to the new series but i enjoyed it nonetheless. Setting the scene for some big events to come.

Oul Ed made a cameo appearance. Strange that, and a bit pointless.  Saw a right few people have been quite upset about this. Chill pill needed.

Assuming that was Jorah Mormont in the cell snatching at the bowl?

much like the previous 72 episodes. Starting to feel a bit like 'Lost' now in that the audience or the writers probably haven't a clue what's gonna happen

Not at all. The writers have a source to base their scripts on, unlike lost. Also, there had been 60 episodes before Sunday.

Slow episode. Sheeran cameo annoyed me but it's hardly the worst thing in the world. Giving him a new song from outside the canon was a bit much. Everyone on the same continent now which is good!
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Post by: lurganblue on July 18, 2017, 03:48:51 PM
It's back! Slow enough start to the new series but i enjoyed it nonetheless. Setting the scene for some big events to come.

Oul Ed made a cameo appearance. Strange that, and a bit pointless.  Saw a right few people have been quite upset about this. Chill pill needed.

Assuming that was Jorah Mormont in the cell snatching at the bowl?

much like the previous 72 episodes. Starting to feel a bit like 'Lost' now in that the audience or the writers probably haven't a clue what's gonna happen

Game of thrones is hardly a series that can be accused of lacking big events throughout?
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Post by: JoG2 on July 18, 2017, 03:51:27 PM
It's back! Slow enough start to the new series but i enjoyed it nonetheless. Setting the scene for some big events to come.

Oul Ed made a cameo appearance. Strange that, and a bit pointless.  Saw a right few people have been quite upset about this. Chill pill needed.

Assuming that was Jorah Mormont in the cell snatching at the bowl?

much like the previous 72 episodes. Starting to feel a bit like 'Lost' now in that the audience or the writers probably haven't a clue what's gonna happen

Game of thrones is hardly a series that can be accused of lacking big events throughout?

I enjoy it, but it's being fairly dragged out...it's been building to the war of wars over the throne 70+ episodes now.
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Post by: nrico2006 on July 18, 2017, 04:31:15 PM
So what way do people think it will pan out, i.e. will there be a big war to sort out who rules the 7 kingdoms in this season and then the focus in the last season being on the war between the living and dead?  Or will both stories just run side by side and get sorted out at the end of next season.
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Post by: stew on July 18, 2017, 04:53:39 PM
One of the dragons will get killed and go to the dark side, little Lannister will sit on the thrown and defeat the army of the dead at next seasons end.
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Post by: Syferus on July 18, 2017, 05:52:02 PM
So what way do people think it will pan out, i.e. will there be a big war to sort out who rules the 7 kingdoms in this season and then the focus in the last season being on the war between the living and dead?  Or will both stories just run side by side and get sorted out at the end of next season.

Jon and Daeny unite, realise they're related, f**k up the White Walkers (by far the weakest part of the series) and Bran helps out by controlling one of the dragons and laying waste to the undead plot vehicles.

Cersei gets crushed, either by Arya, Jaime (the way it should happen IMHO) or the united forces of everyone they've fucked over. The two Cleganes may fight, but I honestly have little interest in that unlike some on the internet.

They're teasing tension between Jon and Sansa but if she were to betray him it would undo all the hard work they've done for the last seven or eight years building her character. It would be incredibly cheap and monumentally stupid IMHO.

We can assume the whole thing ends with Daeny on the Iron Throne, maybe married to Jon in the fine tradition of their family.

I think the broad strokes of what will happen are obvious at this stage.
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Post by: gallsman on July 18, 2017, 10:46:31 PM
If all is revealed to the realm rather than just the viewers, Jon's claim w will be better then Dany's and he'll sir on the throne, if there is such a thing by the end of it.

Cersei will die at the hands of either Tyrion or Jaime to fulfill the prophecy. More likely to be Jaime and he'll repeat his regicide to try to stop her burning sheen the city.

Season will end with the wall coming down I think.
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Post by: ziggysego on July 18, 2017, 10:53:47 PM
It's back! Slow enough start to the new series but i enjoyed it nonetheless. Setting the scene for some big events to come.

Oul Ed made a cameo appearance. Strange that, and a bit pointless.  Saw a right few people have been quite upset about this. Chill pill needed.

Assuming that was Jorah Mormont in the cell snatching at the bowl?

much like the previous 72 episodes. Starting to feel a bit like 'Lost' now in that the audience or the writers probably haven't a clue what's gonna happen

Not at all. The writers have a source to base their scripts on, unlike lost. Also, there had been 60 episodes before Sunday.

Slow episode. Sheeran cameo annoyed me but it's hardly the worst thing in the world. Giving him a new song from outside the canon was a bit much. Everyone on the same continent now which is good!

Not really, the television series has now surpassed the books, so no longer has a source to base their scripts on.

That been said, I enjoyed it last night. Merely setting up the chess pieces for S7 and maybe S8. Only 13 episodes left to go.
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Post by: Syferus on July 18, 2017, 10:55:05 PM
If all is revealed to the team rather than just the viewers, Jon's claim w will be better then Dany's and he'll sir on the throne, if there is such a thing by the end of it.

Cersei will die at the hands of either Tyrion or Jaime to fulfill the prophecy. More likely to be Jaime and he'll repeat his regicide to try to stop her burning sheen the city.

Season will end with the wall coming down I think.

A b**tard wouldn't have a better claim than a legitimate child of the last king. Jon's mother and Daeny's brother weren't exactly married..
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Post by: gallsman on July 18, 2017, 11:09:16 PM
If all is revealed to the team rather than just the viewers, Jon's claim w will be better then Dany's and he'll sir on the throne, if there is such a thing by the end of it.

Cersei will die at the hands of either Tyrion or Jaime to fulfill the prophecy. More likely to be Jaime and he'll repeat his regicide to try to stop her burning sheen the city.

Season will end with the wall coming down I think.

A b**tard wouldn't have a better claim than a legitimate child of the last king. Jon's mother and Daeny's brother weren't exactly married..

Were they not? Keep watching.

It's back! Slow enough start to the new series but i enjoyed it nonetheless. Setting the scene for some big events to come.

Oul Ed made a cameo appearance. Strange that, and a bit pointless.  Saw a right few people have been quite upset about this. Chill pill needed.

Assuming that was Jorah Mormont in the cell snatching at the bowl?

much like the previous 72 episodes. Starting to feel a bit like 'Lost' now in that the audience or the writers probably haven't a clue what's gonna happen

Not at all. The writers have a source to base their scripts on, unlike lost. Also, there had been 60 episodes before Sunday.

Slow episode. Sheeran cameo annoyed me but it's hardly the worst thing in the world. Giving him a new song from outside the canon was a bit much. Everyone on the same continent now which is good!

Not really, the television series has now surpassed the books, so no longer has a source to base their scripts on.

That been said, I enjoyed it last night. Merely setting up the chess pieces for S7 and maybe S8. Only 13 episodes left to go.

Martin has given them the story -they're not just making everything up as they go along.
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Post by: Syferus on July 18, 2017, 11:35:34 PM
If all is revealed to the team rather than just the viewers, Jon's claim w will be better then Dany's and he'll sir on the throne, if there is such a thing by the end of it.

Cersei will die at the hands of either Tyrion or Jaime to fulfill the prophecy. More likely to be Jaime and he'll repeat his regicide to try to stop her burning sheen the city.

Season will end with the wall coming down I think.

A b**tard wouldn't have a better claim than a legitimate child of the last king. Jon's mother and Daeny's brother weren't exactly married..

Were they not? Keep watching.

It's back! Slow enough start to the new series but i enjoyed it nonetheless. Setting the scene for some big events to come.

Oul Ed made a cameo appearance. Strange that, and a bit pointless.  Saw a right few people have been quite upset about this. Chill pill needed.

Assuming that was Jorah Mormont in the cell snatching at the bowl?

much like the previous 72 episodes. Starting to feel a bit like 'Lost' now in that the audience or the writers probably haven't a clue what's gonna happen

Not at all. The writers have a source to base their scripts on, unlike lost. Also, there had been 60 episodes before Sunday.

Slow episode. Sheeran cameo annoyed me but it's hardly the worst thing in the world. Giving him a new song from outside the canon was a bit much. Everyone on the same continent now which is good!

Not really, the television series has now surpassed the books, so no longer has a source to base their scripts on.

That been said, I enjoyed it last night. Merely setting up the chess pieces for S7 and maybe S8. Only 13 episodes left to go.

Martin has given them the story -they're not just making everything up as they go along.

Rhaegar was already married..
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Post by: gallsman on July 19, 2017, 06:02:11 AM
So?
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Post by: dclane on July 19, 2017, 07:54:15 AM
One of the dragons will get killed and go to the dark side, little Lannister will sit on the thrown and defeat the army of the dead at next seasons end.
Christ, how do people watch this shite.
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Post by: nrico2006 on July 19, 2017, 08:30:22 AM
I suppose the big question is who will ride the 3 dragons?  Jon, Khaleesi and who?  Tyrion or Bran?

As for Jon's parentage, who all actually knows?  Just Bran and your man Reed?  Is he expected to be in the show in this season or the next?

As for the Mountain fighting the Hound, I think that potential fight lost its prestige when you saw the Hound getting wailed by a woman. 

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Post by: gallsman on July 19, 2017, 08:33:31 AM
I suppose the big question is who will ride the 3 dragons?  Jon, Khaleesi and who?  Tyrion or Bran?

As for Jon's parentage, who all actually knows?  Just Bran and your man Reed?  Is he expected to be in the show in this season or the next?

Bran, Howland Reed (Martin has said he will appear in the books but don't know about the show) and presumably Meera as well.

I reckon we might get the first hint of things when Jon and Danny meet for the first time and the dragons are "friendly" towards him.
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Post by: johnneycool on July 24, 2017, 04:21:51 PM
I suppose the big question is who will ride the 3 dragons?  Jon, Khaleesi and who?  Tyrion or Bran?

As for Jon's parentage, who all actually knows?  Just Bran and your man Reed?  Is he expected to be in the show in this season or the next?

Bran, Howland Reed (Martin has said he will appear in the books but don't know about the show) and presumably Meera as well.

I reckon we might get the first hint of things when Jon and Danny meet for the first time and the dragons are "friendly" towards him.

Their mothers all died giving birth to them, Tyrion, Jon and Danerys.

Jon's and Danerys ones are well known but it also turns out that Aerys II Targaryen was knocking off Lady Lannister under the nose of Tywin Lannister hence his late arrival at the battle of the trident and him being Aerys II's hand.

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Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on July 24, 2017, 10:43:58 PM
Those sand snakes turned out to be pretty sh1te in the end
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Post by: gallsman on July 24, 2017, 11:43:09 PM
Those sand snakes turned out to be pretty sh1te in the end

They absolutely butchered the Dorne storyline in the show. Much better in the books.

The Alerts/Joanna Lannister theory has always only been insinuated rather then proven. They were apparently some antics from Aerys during the bedding ceremony at Tywin and Joanna's wedding.
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Post by: johnneycool on July 25, 2017, 08:36:55 AM
Those sand snakes turned out to be pretty sh1te in the end

Nice Bangers though!
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Post by: nrico2006 on July 25, 2017, 08:42:16 AM
The super hot one is still alive though.  Your doll from Hollyoaks was unreal last night, this show has the best talent of any show ever.
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Post by: screenexile on July 25, 2017, 09:20:46 AM
The super hot one is still alive though.  Your doll from Hollyoaks was unreal last night, this show has the best talent of any show ever.

RULE 1!!!!


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Post by: screenexile on July 31, 2017, 03:08:53 PM
Enjoyed that episode immensely!!!

" He really was a **** wasn't he? "
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Post by: An Watcher on July 31, 2017, 10:28:06 PM
Yes great episode and great show.  Never totally sure about what is going on or who the characters are but enjoying it all the same
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Post by: JoG2 on August 01, 2017, 10:11:55 AM
Yes great episode and great show.  Never totally sure about what is going on or who the characters are but enjoying it all the same

same here, good watch though. The scene with Cersei (thanks google) and the mother / daughter down in the dungeon was tight going
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Post by: screenexile on August 01, 2017, 10:26:12 AM
Yes great episode and great show.  Never totally sure about what is going on or who the characters are but enjoying it all the same

same here, good watch though. The scene with Cersei (thanks google) and the mother / daughter down in the dungeon was tight going

It's mental you'd have to constantly rewatch every series each year to stay on top of what' happening and what went before. I vaguely remember Robb Stark's tactic a few seasons ago to catch out Jaime Lannister which was mentioned there but it's a distant distant memory!
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Post by: Don Johnson on August 01, 2017, 12:12:11 PM
It's one of the shows that gets better once you rewatch it then rewatch again.

Sometimes I just watch whatever old episode Sky would be showing and it's amazing the things you pick up on.
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Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on August 01, 2017, 12:38:04 PM
The super hot one is still alive though.  Your doll from Hollyoaks was unreal last night, this show has the best talent of any show ever.

Well looks like she is pretty fecked now. Shame

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Post by: Harold Disgracey on August 01, 2017, 11:51:22 PM
Finally getting round to watching the most recent episode. Diana Rigg was fantastic.
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Post by: leenie on August 02, 2017, 07:47:12 AM
Most recent episode is up there as one of my favourites - the dialogue was unreal  (Jon had an answer everytime for danersys) - so much to take on .  . Best moment was lord varys talking to red woman .. some would suggest he knew what her cyptric msg meant however I think he hasn't a clue .. and he always knows .. where and when are they my both going to die
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Post by: stew on August 02, 2017, 10:25:03 AM
The wee lannister will end up ruling the kingdoms.
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Post by: gallsman on August 02, 2017, 02:23:10 PM
The wee lannister will end up ruling the kingdoms.

Not a chance.
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Post by: gallsman on August 04, 2017, 07:17:43 PM
Episode 4 has leaked. For anyone into that sort of thing.
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Post by: Syferus on August 04, 2017, 07:24:27 PM
Only 480p. I'll wait for the 1080p Amazon rip to hit Monday.
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Post by: gallsman on August 04, 2017, 07:24:55 PM
Only 480p. I'll wait for the 1080p Amazon rip to hit Monday.

Thanks for letting us know.
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Post by: Syferus on August 04, 2017, 07:27:42 PM
Only 480p. I'll wait for the 1080p Amazon rip to hit Monday.

Thanks for letting us know.

You're very welcome.

For the non-jackasses, it's the best version of the show you can get, even if you've paid for the TV station that airs it.
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Post by: gallsman on August 05, 2017, 12:13:50 AM
Stunning episode.
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Post by: Maurice Moss on August 05, 2017, 12:17:31 AM
Great episode!
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Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 07, 2017, 03:20:41 AM
Wow.
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Post by: gawa316 on August 07, 2017, 06:01:18 AM
That was fuckin' deadly television right there
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Post by: Ethan Tremblay on August 07, 2017, 10:05:03 AM
Deadly episode, as this battle has been a long time coming and there has been a lot of character development I thought they sort of chickened out of killing off two of the characters on the losing side (although both of them are help make the show great), I would say if this was in the books both of them would have been ended.
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Post by: gallsman on August 07, 2017, 10:27:04 AM
Nah, Jaime is the best bet to kill Cersei. He'll live.
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Post by: MoChara on August 07, 2017, 03:17:04 PM
Nah, Jaime is the best bet to kill Cersei. He'll live.

Aye the little brother strangling her prophecy, its too obvious to actually be Tyrion
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Post by: BennyHarp on August 07, 2017, 04:46:50 PM
Nah, Jaime is the best bet to kill Cersei. He'll live.

Or Arya using Jamie's face after killing him herself?
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Post by: Maiden1 on August 07, 2017, 04:53:58 PM
http://www.suffolkgazette.com/news/game-of-thrones/

‘I’m not ogling the breasts in Game of Thrones’, insists middle-aged man  | July 28, 2017
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Game of Thrones

A middle-aged man insists he is gripped by the story in Game of Thrones – and in no way watches simply to ogle at beautiful women’s breasts.

Jonathan Smith, 51, says he is enjoying the hit television series because he has always been a fan of dragons “and stuff like that”.


 
But his long-suffering wife, Samantha said: “Let’s be honest, he’s just watching it for the tits.

“Jonathan was hooked by all the naked breasts and full-frontals in series one – and has kept watching ever since even though the nudity has been toned down. A bit.

“He’s never liked dragons or shown any interest in fantasy stories in their true sense – the only fantasies he enjoys now involve threesomes with buxom wenches in King’s Landing.”


 
IT manager Jonathan, from Ipswich in Suffolk, refused to admit the women in the series — all of them — were attractive with shapely bodies. Even the older ones.

“I can’t say I’ve noticed,” he said. “I’m too busy trying to keep up with all the scheming and plot twists to worry about girls with no clothes on.”

Game of Thrones is currently broadcasting its seventh series, and centres around a lot of people claiming they are the true king or queen of a world in which a huge wall splits the north and the south.

The Suffolk Gazette revealed recently that Game of Thrones scenes were being filmed in Norfolk.

There are ghostly figures, wolves, witches, dragons and even a dwarf – but that’s enough about Norfolk.
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Post by: An Watcher on August 07, 2017, 10:10:01 PM
Great viewing
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Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on August 14, 2017, 11:09:17 AM
How many of the magnificent 7 on their suicide mission will live? 3 like the westerns??
A change of pace from last week but still great viewing
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Post by: gallsman on August 14, 2017, 11:21:22 AM
I simply love being right when it means Syferus is wrong.
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Post by: nrico2006 on August 15, 2017, 08:37:55 AM
Big revelation from your doll Gilly last night, although neither her or Sam understood the significance of it.
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Post by: MoChara on August 15, 2017, 08:49:14 AM
Big revelation from your doll Gilly last night, although neither her or Sam understood the significance of it.

Aye but there's no way they could know that it was significant when Jon doesn't even know his da, question is though did they bring that book North to the wall with them.
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Post by: lurganblue on August 15, 2017, 09:17:13 AM
Anyone know what the note said? The one that littlefinger had received?
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Post by: BennyHarp on August 15, 2017, 09:21:30 AM
Anyone know what the note said? The one that littlefinger had received?

It was the note that Sanza sent to Winterfell when she declared her loyalty to the crown after Ned Stark's beheading. I think it said about Ned being a traitor to Joffrey and deserving his sentence.?
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Post by: Walter Cronc on August 15, 2017, 09:24:35 AM
Is Arya gona kill her sister??
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Post by: canice lynch on August 15, 2017, 09:37:35 AM
Big revelation from your doll Gilly last night, although neither her or Sam understood the significance of it.

Aye but there's no way they could know that it was significant when Jon doesn't even know his da, question is though did they bring that book North to the wall with them.

I think Sam was writing it out in a new book which he then gave down to his son so I assume that they have it away with them to the wall..
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Post by: nrico2006 on August 15, 2017, 01:19:20 PM
Anyone know what the note said? The one that littlefinger had received?

It was the note that Sanza sent to Winterfell when she declared her loyalty to the crown after Ned Stark's beheading. I think it said about Ned being a traitor to Joffrey and deserving his sentence.?

Littlefinger being sneaky and trying to manipulate Arya into going against Sansa.
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Post by: lurganblue on August 15, 2017, 02:51:26 PM
Anyone know what the note said? The one that littlefinger had received?

It was the note that Sanza sent to Winterfell when she declared her loyalty to the crown after Ned Stark's beheading. I think it said about Ned being a traitor to Joffrey and deserving his sentence.?

Littlefinger being sneaky and trying to manipulate Arya into going against Sansa.

It's not like him
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Post by: MoChara on August 16, 2017, 09:43:59 AM
Seems HBO have leaked the next episode themselves in Spain by accident
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Post by: johnneycool on August 16, 2017, 09:55:09 AM
Big revelation from your doll Gilly last night, although neither her or Sam understood the significance of it.

Aye but there's no way they could know that it was significant when Jon doesn't even know his da, question is though did they bring that book North to the wall with them.

I think Sam was writing it out in a new book which he then gave down to his son so I assume that they have it away with them to the wall..

Gilly stopped short of revealing the real truth about Rhaegar and Lyanna, one of the main reasons for Roberts Rebellion.
Not sure if the old Maester who wrote the book knew of Jon's impending birth, but probably did as Sam made a big deal of him noting everything down, even his bowel movements.

Episode 5 was lacking in action, but there were lots of little things coming together. Jon and the dragon, Gilly and the reading, the return of Mormont to Danerys (still friendzone though), Danery's having notions of Jon.
I'm presuming young Baratheon who appeared for the first time in a long time has a part to play as well..
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Post by: gallsman on August 16, 2017, 11:55:17 AM
Seems HBO have leaked the next episode themselves in Spain by accident

It's widely available on torrent sites at this stage. A 1080p copy as well.
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Post by: MoChara on August 16, 2017, 12:38:40 PM
Seems HBO have leaked the next episode themselves in Spain by accident

It's widely available on torrent sites at this stage. A 1080p copy as well.

unbelievable that's two season in a row that they've done it, I'll be watching that tonight.
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Post by: screenexile on August 16, 2017, 02:18:34 PM
Seems HBO have leaked the next episode themselves in Spain by accident

It's widely available on torrent sites at this stage. A 1080p copy as well.

Ah jaysus I'll have to watch that now too. . . far too much happening to just leave it sitting there goading me for 5 days!!
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Post by: nrico2006 on August 16, 2017, 02:35:17 PM
Tempted myself, just leaves a bigger wait for the next one though.
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Post by: oakleaflad on August 16, 2017, 03:14:56 PM
Gave in to temptation. It didn't disappoint!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: screenexile on August 16, 2017, 03:16:08 PM
Right no spoilers on here until next week though!!!!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on August 16, 2017, 03:46:44 PM
It's insane. Just watch it ASAP. Nothing unexpected, just the sheer quantity of action was mental
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gawa316 on August 16, 2017, 04:31:29 PM
Where can you find it?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on August 16, 2017, 04:40:37 PM
Any torrent site you can think of.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 16, 2017, 04:49:05 PM
Guess I'll be avoiding this thread until Sunday night
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: MoChara on August 16, 2017, 05:07:45 PM
Fill yer boots

http://mycouchtuner.city/2/game-of-thrones-s7-e6-death-is-the-enemy/
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on August 16, 2017, 06:41:37 PM
Any links?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: ballinaman on August 16, 2017, 06:56:06 PM
Watched it there. Very good.

Will wait a few days for people watch it here before discussing it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on August 16, 2017, 07:00:41 PM
Link?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on August 16, 2017, 07:04:57 PM
Go to literally any torrent site and you will find it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gawa316 on August 16, 2017, 07:08:26 PM
Link?

Look 3 posts above
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on August 16, 2017, 10:42:23 PM
Very good tense battle scene knocks a few theories on the head regarding third dragon rider
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: screenexile on August 16, 2017, 11:29:32 PM
Ah Johnny no spoilers lad!!

PS. f**k me that was awesome!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Don Johnson on August 16, 2017, 11:34:05 PM
Ridiculously good episode there. The leaked one I mean, potential to be the best series yet.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: leenie on August 17, 2017, 12:55:01 AM
No spoilers ...

But OMG
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: MoChara on August 17, 2017, 01:06:28 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/fullmoviesongoogle/comments/6u5qsy/game_of_thrones_s07e06_1080p/

There's a much better link
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on August 17, 2017, 09:02:08 AM
Very good tense battle scene knocks a few theories on the head regarding third dragon rider

Aye, was always thinking that the end would be settled by three dragon riders.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: front of the mountain on August 17, 2017, 09:02:53 AM
https://www.facebook.com/mraxto/videos/1559038220785162/?hc_ref=ARRQGOuQDkCQea9m1ed_hEl_sS8VI0hilWfEbs_igBp62WELqOI_7GweFZkBoOsseic
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: ballinaman on August 17, 2017, 11:03:10 AM
Night King due to throw the javelin for Finland in Tokyo 2020 Olympics I'm hearing.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: leenie on August 17, 2017, 11:06:23 AM
Ah Johnny no spoilers lad!!

PS. f**k me that was awesome!

In fairness this Is a spoilers thread ???
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Mike Tyson on August 17, 2017, 12:43:36 PM
Where did they get those massive chains at the end? Is there some sort of metallurgy works north of the wall that the Night King is keeping quiet? And did he get some of the dead to swim down and attach them?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: screenexile on August 17, 2017, 12:59:29 PM
Where did they get those massive chains at the end? Is there some sort of metallurgy works north of the wall that the Night King is keeping quiet? And did he get some of the dead to swim down and attach them?

They're able to bring a dragon back to life and this is what vexes you??

 ;D ;D
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Post by: gallsman on August 17, 2017, 01:04:45 PM
Where did they get those massive chains at the end? Is there some sort of metallurgy works north of the wall that the Night King is keeping quiet? And did he get some of the dead to swim down and attach them?

The melted down all the plot armour lying about the place.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: leenie on August 17, 2017, 02:42:15 PM
Where did they get those massive chains at the end? Is there some sort of metallurgy works north of the wall that the Night King is keeping quiet? And did he get some of the dead to swim down and attach them?

Lol that was my first thought ...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Mike Tyson on August 17, 2017, 02:58:38 PM
Where did they get those massive chains at the end? Is there some sort of metallurgy works north of the wall that the Night King is keeping quiet? And did he get some of the dead to swim down and attach them?

They're able to bring a dragon back to life and this is what vexes you??

 ;D ;D

 ;D lol

Enjoyed the scenes with the Hound & Tormund. Good laugh.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: ballinaman on August 17, 2017, 03:07:43 PM
Who was the chap who fell off the edge and got ripped to shreds after he stopped Jon Snow falling over. Duine Eile good guy?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 17, 2017, 03:09:04 PM
Just a randommer from the Brotherhood or Free Folk
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on August 17, 2017, 03:34:50 PM
Ah Johnny no spoilers lad!!

PS. f**k me that was awesome!

In fairness this Is a spoilers thread ???

No real spoiler just puts an end to tyrion being some sort of targaryen in order to fly the third dragon - which was quite a widespread theory
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on August 17, 2017, 05:23:51 PM
Ah Johnny no spoilers lad!!

PS. f**k me that was awesome!

In fairness this Is a spoilers thread ???

No real spoiler just puts an end to tyrion being some sort of targaryen in order to fly the third dragon - which was quite a widespread theory

Puts an end to him riding one, not to him being a Targaryen.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Syferus on August 17, 2017, 06:14:54 PM
66 episodes in, and they finally bother to make the White Walkers a credible threat. Even up until the dragon kill it was like watching the Putty Patrol from the Power Rangers - they were being mowed down with ease. White Walkers themselves are so comically weak now we know what Valerian steel does to them. So many undead being stupid enough to run head first into the lake makes it clear that, forget about any prophecies, building a giant mote south of the Wall would have totally fúcked any plans they had. At least with a dragon they are more of a threat.

Still by far the weakest most generic aspect of the show. 66 hours in and not a peep from the Night King - I know they want to make him this silent, scary, other-worldly menace (even though we know for a fact he was once human), fine, but without any exposition being invested in what he's doing is incredibly difficult. Cersei is far more effective a villain because you can see things from her perspective; same goes for Joffrey, Tywin, Ramsey et al. The Night King is just a walking deus ex machina. I had hoped Jon would be captured and we might get a little more story and a little less staring off into the middle distance from the Night King.
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Post by: CiKe on August 17, 2017, 06:21:17 PM
Some episode, can't imagine what the season finale will be like!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: ballinaman on August 17, 2017, 06:25:36 PM
The fall into the water escape route used in the last 2 episodes...expect something a bit better!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Syferus on August 17, 2017, 06:28:44 PM
The fall into the water escape route used in the last 2 episodes...expect something a bit better!

All the waiting around was a bit much too. It was a decent episode but not a patch on the Battle of the Bástards which was a perfect mixture of stakes, story and smartly shot action. Half the time I didn't even know who the undead were even attacking this week, it was a bit of a muddy mess.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Mike Tyson on August 17, 2017, 06:42:33 PM
Ah Johnny no spoilers lad!!

PS. f**k me that was awesome!

In fairness this Is a spoilers thread ???

No real spoiler just puts an end to tyrion being some sort of targaryen in order to fly the third dragon - which was quite a widespread theory

Puts an end to him riding one, not to him being a Targaryen.

Think I read somewhere that Tyrion being a Targaryen isn't as plausible as first though. As the whole theory rests of the Mad King having his way with Tywins wife on his wedding night, would it not be Jamie and Cersei who are Targaryen as they're older? And both have fair hair and incestual which was a trait of Targaryens.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on August 17, 2017, 09:41:16 PM
The whole theory doesn't rest on the wedding night at all. Tyrion has physical features that are associated with the Targaryen family, such as his hair and eye colour. He also frequently dreams of and has a fascination with dragons.

Good argument can be made for Cersei/Jaime being Targs too.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on August 18, 2017, 10:11:36 AM
Who was the chap who fell off the edge and got ripped to shreds after he stopped Jon Snow falling over. Duine Eile good guy?

Rewinded that myself, was very hard to make out who was who.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on August 18, 2017, 11:42:25 AM
Who was the chap who fell off the edge and got ripped to shreds after he stopped Jon Snow falling over. Duine Eile good guy?

Rewinded that myself, was very hard to make out who was who.

Basically the lads who kept their hoods up were cannon fodder AN Other.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on August 18, 2017, 12:47:01 PM
Gave in and watched the latest episode last night, very good. 

My only irk with this season is with the lack of episodes this season travel times in the show are suiting the writer’s needs more than ever.  Gendry running back to the wall getting a raven sent off and the rescue all seemed to happen rather quickly.  Would be better if they had their usual 10 episode run and spread things out more. 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Syferus on August 18, 2017, 01:56:43 PM
Gave in and watched the latest episode last night, very good. 

My only irk with this season is with the lack of episodes this season travel times in the show are suiting the writer’s needs more than ever.  Gendry running back to the wall getting a raven sent off and the rescue all seemed to happen rather quickly.  Would be better if they had their usual 10 episode run and spread things out more.

Honestly, I was sick of all the long winded travel seven seasons in. It finally feels like a show moving at its own pace rather than something fervently attached to the pacing choices of a single novelist. Even a show like Breaking Bad started moving at breakneck speed when it approached the end.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on August 18, 2017, 02:15:34 PM
Gave in and watched the latest episode last night, very good. 

My only irk with this season is with the lack of episodes this season travel times in the show are suiting the writer’s needs more than ever.  Gendry running back to the wall getting a raven sent off and the rescue all seemed to happen rather quickly.  Would be better if they had their usual 10 episode run and spread things out more.

Honestly, I was sick of all the long winded travel seven seasons in. It finally feels like a show moving at its own pace rather than something fervently attached to the pacing choices of a single novelist. Even a show like Breaking Bad started moving at breakneck speed when it approached the end.

I'm glad too.  No more waiting for 2 or 3 episodes to see a character again once they are to travel to another part of the kingdom.  I wonder why Gendry is back, has to be a reason.
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Post by: CiKe on August 18, 2017, 02:33:02 PM
Gave in and watched the latest episode last night, very good. 

My only irk with this season is with the lack of episodes this season travel times in the show are suiting the writer’s needs more than ever.  Gendry running back to the wall getting a raven sent off and the rescue all seemed to happen rather quickly.  Would be better if they had their usual 10 episode run and spread things out more.

Honestly, I was sick of all the long winded travel seven seasons in. It finally feels like a show moving at its own pace rather than something fervently attached to the pacing choices of a single novelist. Even a show like Breaking Bad started moving at breakneck speed when it approached the end.

I'm glad too.  No more waiting for 2 or 3 episodes to see a character again once they are to travel to another part of the kingdom.  I wonder why Gendry is back, has to be a reason.

The conversation with Beric got me thinking, "the shield that defends the realms of men" etc.

What chance Jon Snow doesn't make it.and just dies a hero? Targaryen and Baratheon (even if he is a b**tard) to unite a divided land?

Is Ice and Fire about just him because he is Stark and Targaryen or Dany and him?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Syferus on August 18, 2017, 02:41:03 PM
Gave in and watched the latest episode last night, very good. 

My only irk with this season is with the lack of episodes this season travel times in the show are suiting the writer’s needs more than ever.  Gendry running back to the wall getting a raven sent off and the rescue all seemed to happen rather quickly.  Would be better if they had their usual 10 episode run and spread things out more.

Honestly, I was sick of all the long winded travel seven seasons in. It finally feels like a show moving at its own pace rather than something fervently attached to the pacing choices of a single novelist. Even a show like Breaking Bad started moving at breakneck speed when it approached the end.

I'm glad too.  No more waiting for 2 or 3 episodes to see a character again once they are to travel to another part of the kingdom.  I wonder why Gendry is back, has to be a reason.

The conversation with Beric got me thinking, "the shield that defends the realms of men" etc.

What chance Jon Snow doesn't make it.and just dies a hero? Targaryen and Baratheon (even if he is a b**tard) to unite a divided land?

Is Ice and Fire about just him because he is Stark and Targaryen or Dany and him?

I will be severely disappointed if Jon dies again. He still hasn't learnt his lessons, both his own and the errors Nedd and Rob committed by being too honourable and sentimental. Hell, Sansa is starting to plot again him and he hasn't even bothered to send her a raven to keep her up to date, he's committing the same errors in judgement his family have since day one.

Him not running out after Rickon in the Battle of the Bâstards last season was a great opportunity to show a bit of growth. He needs to be more than another heroic dead Stark. They've invested so much in the character killing him off without that growth will cheapen so much of what has went before.

The happy ending would be Dany and Jon together beating the White Walkers and uniting Westeros as King and Queen. But this show has thaught you not to want nice things, even though Jon and Dany have blantantly been the two characters who would never die before the final book/season. The two main characters in Game of Thrones are Dany and Jon, whatever about the books.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: johnneycool on August 21, 2017, 09:18:51 AM
Is this night King a Targaryen or how will he control his new blue eyed dragon?


Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: screenexile on August 21, 2017, 10:19:44 AM
Is this night King a Targaryen or how will he control his new blue eyed dragon?

Is it not that he can control anyone he has brought back to life?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: johnneycool on August 21, 2017, 10:26:42 AM
Is this night King a Targaryen or how will he control his new blue eyed dragon?

Is it not that he can control anyone he has brought back to life?

True, True.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Syferus on August 21, 2017, 01:12:28 PM
Is this night King a Targaryen or how will he control his new blue eyed dragon?

Is it not that he can control anyone he has brought back to life?

True, True.

I want to know if Bran can control anything too, because the Night King seemed very keen to kill the Three-Eyed Raven.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 21, 2017, 01:30:31 PM
Is this night King a Targaryen or how will he control his new blue eyed dragon?

Is it not that he can control anyone he has brought back to life?

True, True.

I want to know if Bran can control anything too, because the Night King seemed very keen to kill the Three-Eyed Raven.

Is one of the theories not that Three-Eyed Raven and the night king are one and the same?   That there is a connection between them?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: AZOffaly on August 21, 2017, 01:32:46 PM
Lads, this thread is very funny, because I don't watch GoT. Reading the comments about blue eyed dragons, three eyed ravens and other weird shit is a real juxtaposition set next to the comments ye make on football or other threads :)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Syferus on August 21, 2017, 02:18:57 PM
Is this night King a Targaryen or how will he control his new blue eyed dragon?

Is it not that he can control anyone he has brought back to life?

True, True.

I want to know if Bran can control anything too, because the Night King seemed very keen to kill the Three-Eyed Raven.

Is one of the theories not that Three-Eyed Raven and the night king are one and the same?   That there is a connection between them?

Hadn't heard that one myself, but I'm sure there is one. There's so many theories floating about, read one today about Gendry being not just Robert's son, but Cersei's as well, making him the heir to two houses and even the Iron Throne. He has to have been brought back for a meaningful reason anyways.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on August 21, 2017, 02:35:34 PM
Is this night King a Targaryen or how will he control his new blue eyed dragon?

Going by the books, he's likely to be a Stark. Don't think of it as a dragon that has any relationship to the Targaryens any more. It's another wight, that just happens to have the form of a dragon.

Is one of the theories not that Three-Eyed Raven and the night king are one and the same?   That there is a connection between them?

Definitely a connection, linked to Bran's warging abilities. One of the theories is that the reason they were taking so long is that they were simply waiting to be brought the dragon.

He has to have been brought back for a meaningful reason anyways.

I think his smithing ability is going to be his contribution - either making better weapons from dragonglass or "rediscovering" how to make Valyrian steel.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Mike Tyson on August 21, 2017, 02:37:40 PM
Is this night King a Targaryen or how will he control his new blue eyed dragon?

Is it not that he can control anyone he has brought back to life?

True, True.

I want to know if Bran can control anything too, because the Night King seemed very keen to kill the Three-Eyed Raven.

Is one of the theories not that Three-Eyed Raven and the night king are one and the same?   That there is a connection between them?

The theory I read on that one was that Bran goes back in time to when the Night King was being created and wargs into him to convince the Children of the Forest to stop, but unwillingly gets trapped inside and is turned into the Night King. Hence why he can see and touch Bran in the visions.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: stew on August 21, 2017, 04:13:57 PM
I want to see Tyrion  on the throne at the end, he is the smartest player in the game and comes from royal stock, he is also fair minded and decent, just like his current employer.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: trileacman on August 22, 2017, 01:10:39 AM
This show is a load of old w**k.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gawa316 on August 22, 2017, 05:45:43 AM
This show is a load of old w**k.

There's a lot to be said for an old w**k now and again ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on August 22, 2017, 08:46:13 AM
I want to see Tyrion  on the throne at the end, he is the smartest player in the game and comes from royal stock, he is also fair minded and decent, just like his current employer.

I like Tyrion but there are a few smarter than him.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: MoChara on August 22, 2017, 10:45:36 AM
Is this night King a Targaryen or how will he control his new blue eyed dragon?

Is it not that he can control anyone he has brought back to life?

True, True.

I want to know if Bran can control anything too, because the Night King seemed very keen to kill the Three-Eyed Raven.

Is one of the theories not that Three-Eyed Raven and the night king are one and the same?   That there is a connection between them?

The theory I read on that one was that Bran goes back in time to when the Night King was being created and wargs into him to convince the Children of the Forest to stop, but unwillingly gets trapped inside and is turned into the Night King. Hence why he can see and touch Bran in the visions.

Being the 3ER does he not know everything that's ever been so he would know that's what happened the nightking, that's always the quandary with time traveling lol
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Syferus on August 24, 2017, 03:48:07 PM
The more I think about it the more I'm sure the last episode was the worst episode of the show. It relies on so many tv tropes and protected even peripheral characters from certain death. It felt like watching a show regress in front of your eyes. The GoT of a few years ago would have killed off most of the 'Magnificent Seven' yet all that died was a character most would struggle to even name. As the show approaches the finishing line it seems to be becoming a much more standard show.

A lot of these deaths are being saved for the final season, and that fact is starting to slap you in the face at this stage. With seven episodes to go there's no time left to be protecting any character.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: thewobbler on August 24, 2017, 06:54:07 PM
The more I think about it the more I'm sure the last episode was the worst episode of the show. It relies on so many tv tropes and protected even peripheral characters from certain death. It felt like watching a show regress in front of your eyes. The GoT of a few years ago would have killed off most of the 'Magnificent Seven' yet all that died was a character most would struggle to even name. As the show approaches the finishing line it seems to be becoming a much more standard show.

A lot of these deaths are being saved for the final season, and that fact is starting to slap you in the face at this stage. With seven episodes to go there's no time left to be protecting any character.

I agree. I found it entertaining but it wasn't in keeping.

While they probably don't have the runtime left to introduce any new characters of significance, they've still got a main cast of around 50, so putting a few of them down, as we've now come to expect in a penultimate season episode, should have been done. Losing a fecking dragon doesn't count.

---

Tyrion isn't that smart at all. He just has empathy, which is an unusual trait in a high born.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: trileacman on August 24, 2017, 10:23:31 PM
Got was never a great show but these last two season have been tripe. Some notable exceptions aside like battle of the b**tards and blowing up the sept were grand but the rest is poorly scripted filler. There's times it's little better than hollyoaks in chain mail.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on August 25, 2017, 07:59:18 AM
Got was never a great show but these last two season have been tripe. Some notable exceptions aside like battle of the b**tards and blowing up the sept were grand but the rest is poorly scripted filler. There's times it's little better than hollyoaks in chain mail.

GOT is arguably the best show there has been.  I have watched most of the better ones and it is definitely up there.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: screenexile on August 25, 2017, 09:39:36 AM
Maybe there should be another thread on "How to make a better Game of Thrones" . . .
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: stew on August 25, 2017, 11:00:17 AM
I want to see Tyrion  on the throne at the end, he is the smartest player in the game and comes from royal stock, he is also fair minded and decent, just like his current employer.

I like Tyrion but there are a few smarter than him.

Easily the best Character in the show. he will end up on the throne at the end and kill his sister in the process, great show that is in danger of becoming a shadow of what it once was, the last couple of episodes have been the weakest I have ever seen out of this franchise.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on August 25, 2017, 11:35:04 AM
I want to see Tyrion  on the throne at the end, he is the smartest player in the game and comes from royal stock, he is also fair minded and decent, just like his current employer.

I like Tyrion but there are a few smarter than him.

Easily the best Character in the show. he will end up on the throne at the end and kill his sister in the process, great show that is in danger of becoming a shadow of what it once was, the last couple of episodes have been the weakest I have ever seen out of this franchise.

I think Jaime will kill her.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: stew on August 25, 2017, 11:38:40 AM
I want to see Tyrion  on the throne at the end, he is the smartest player in the game and comes from royal stock, he is also fair minded and decent, just like his current employer.

I like Tyrion but there are a few smarter than him.

Easily the best Character in the show. he will end up on the throne at the end and kill his sister in the process, great show that is in danger of becoming a shadow of what it once was, the last couple of episodes have been the weakest I have ever seen out of this franchise.

I think Jaime will kill her.

Good call, either would make sense, as long as somebody does and right soon too.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omagh_gael on August 25, 2017, 12:24:27 PM
No chance Tyrion will sit the Throne. I think it is pretty clear that there will be no throne at the end of the show. Dany has said it herself, she is going to break the wheel. The show will end with a Westerosi version of democracy and she/John will lead it in a presidential type of role. Tyrion gave the strongest hint yet in the last (may have been two episodes ago) when he was explaining the voting system of the nights watch and kings moot from the Iron Isles.

In terms of the valunquar (sic) prophecy. I think the final episode will follow these sort of lines:

- John etc will bring the wight to Cersei, Jamie et al

- Cersei will appear to accept that she will join their 'cause'

- Cersei will divulge a back stabbing (kill John, Dany etc) plan to Jamie and he will end up killing her as the final straw. He will fully understand that the threat of the dead is real and Cersei's plan will be her Mad King "kill them all" moment.

- Brienne has been sent to Kingslanding to treat with Cersei and she will be the key link to Jamie rekindling his humanity as we saw in the earlier series.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on August 25, 2017, 01:19:08 PM
No chance Tyrion will sit the Throne. I think it is pretty clear that there will be no throne at the end of the show. Dany has said it herself, she is going to break the wheel. The show will end with a Westerosi version of democracy and she/John will lead it in a presidential type of role. Tyrion gave the strongest hint yet in the last (may have been two episodes ago) when he was explaining the voting system of the nights watch and kings moot from the Iron Isles.

In terms of the valunquar (sic) prophecy. I think the final episode will follow these sort of lines:

- John etc will bring the wight to Cersei, Jamie et al

- Cersei will appear to accept that she will join their 'cause'

- Cersei will divulge a back stabbing (kill John, Dany etc) plan to Jamie and he will end up killing her as the final straw. He will fully understand that the threat of the dead is real and Cersei's plan will be her Mad King "kill them all" moment.

- Brienne has been sent to Kingslanding to treat with Cersei and she will be the key link to Jamie rekindling his humanity as we saw in the earlier series.

Cersei will be killed off but not in the next episode Im afraid it s littlefinger whose scheming will finally catch up with him, to be honest dont actually understand what he is up to. In the past it made sense he was almost having a battle of wits with varys but now what exactly is he going to gain from his meddling other than having his head chopped off??
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Post by: omagh_gael on August 25, 2017, 01:51:56 PM
Is Littlefinger's motivation now his little head? I think he's manoeuvring to have Sansa as the head of the Stark house and he as her husband.

I really hope there is more to the Sansa and Arya story arc. If they are playing it straight i.e. they are growing apart/out to get eachother then I'd be very disappointed, surely they are playing a double bluff on LF and he gets his comeuppance in the next episode?
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Post by: Syferus on August 25, 2017, 01:56:40 PM
Got was never a great show but these last two season have been tripe. Some notable exceptions aside like battle of the b**tards and blowing up the sept were grand but the rest is poorly scripted filler. There's times it's little better than hollyoaks in chain mail.

GOT is arguably the best show there has been.  I have watched most of the better ones and it is definitely up there.

It's been very good for most of the run but it's not a patch on a show like Breaking Bad. If you want to see how you go about ending a big show, look no further than BB. It was hitting home runs in its final two seasons.
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Post by: CiKe on August 25, 2017, 02:21:21 PM
I'm hardly an expert on TV series, but I'd find it hard to believe is the best (actors, script, dialogue etc). I'd also find it incredibly hard to believe there have been many more entertaining series.
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Post by: JPGJOHNNYG on August 25, 2017, 02:38:38 PM
Is Littlefinger's motivation now his little head? I think he's manoeuvring to have Sansa as the head of the Stark house and he as her husband.

I really hope there is more to the Sansa and Arya story arc. If they are playing it straight i.e. they are growing apart/out to get eachother then I'd be very disappointed, surely they are playing a double bluff on LF and he gets his comeuppance in the next episode?

Your probably right but for such a clever man he is backing a donkey there. Surely he would have been better trying to seduce Cersei or Dany if he wanted the power
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on August 25, 2017, 02:40:15 PM
Got was never a great show but these last two season have been tripe. Some notable exceptions aside like battle of the b**tards and blowing up the sept were grand but the rest is poorly scripted filler. There's times it's little better than hollyoaks in chain mail.

GOT is arguably the best show there has been.  I have watched most of the better ones and it is definitely up there.

It's been very good for most of the run but it's not a patch on a show like Breaking Bad. If you want to see how you go about ending a big show, look no further than BB. It was hitting home runs in its final two seasons.

Really?  Season 7 has been excellent.  I imagine season 8 will be even better.  Breaking Bad was brilliant too, but hard to pick one over the other. 
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Post by: omagh_gael on August 25, 2017, 02:55:45 PM
GoT has made some major balls ups over the years with the plot etc but, imo, it is still a better show that BB overall.
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Post by: gallsman on August 25, 2017, 03:31:22 PM
Season 7 has been by and large terrible in my book (geddit?). Great to get some payoffs that we've be long expecting but they've been handled pretty poorly with some awful scripting. Great visuals though.

6 was quite poor too but picked up massively towards the end.

5 was messy because of how they ruined the Dorne angle but had Hardhome in it, which was an absolute masterpiece.

First 4 sessions are terrific. I don't know if it's as simple as it went downhill once they started going off piste but the timing aligns more or less.
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Post by: Syferus on August 25, 2017, 04:22:34 PM
Got was never a great show but these last two season have been tripe. Some notable exceptions aside like battle of the b**tards and blowing up the sept were grand but the rest is poorly scripted filler. There's times it's little better than hollyoaks in chain mail.

GOT is arguably the best show there has been.  I have watched most of the better ones and it is definitely up there.

It's been very good for most of the run but it's not a patch on a show like Breaking Bad. If you want to see how you go about ending a big show, look no further than BB. It was hitting home runs in its final two seasons.

Really?  Season 7 has been excellent.  I imagine season 8 will be even better.  Breaking Bad was brilliant too, but hard to pick one over the other.

I was able to turn a blind eye to the last minute saves and plot conveniences until the last episode. Before that we had Jaime's last second rescue from certain dragon-toasted death and then not sinking to the bottom of the lake despite wearing a full suit of armour, Bran just straight chillin' at Winterfell and not telling Jon he's actually Dany's nephew because they want the romance to develop before they tell them it's incestuous, Arya acting like a jackass and Littlefinger becoming even more of a pantomime villain, the very network TV resolution to the Lannisters' money troubles, and the explaining away that the money wasn't there when Dany attacked with the dragons, so many little unbelievable and lazy pieces of writing.

That last episode just went way too far with that stuff and turned me against it. The finale has a lot of work to do now to get me genuinely excited for the final season.

The problem shows that get to this stage have is fans really invest in the characters and the world - if this was just some random show a season or two into its run your standards would be far lower and you wouldn't think too heavily about the errors. GoT through its own successes has set a higher target and when it doesn't hit that it's glaring. I expect better, and I doubt I'm alone. The Atlantic had a great article post-Beyond the Wall that encapsulates my feelings on where the show is right now:

Quote
Jon Snow is about to die. Again. This time, his imminent death is coming at the bony hands of the army of the dead: Jon, attacked by wights, has plunged into an icy lake. Torn at by zombies and closed in on by frigid waters, he seems to be done for. And, yet—here is a spoiler that, if you have been watching Game of Thrones, will be not much of a spoiler at all—Jon survives. Maybe because he’s a really strong swimmer who is not at all weighed down by the layers of animal pelts he had donned specifically for their heft. Maybe because of the Targaryen fire that warms his blood. Maybe because his soul is buoyed by his growing romance with his aun—


But we are not meant to question such things. Nor are we meant to question it when, during the epic battle between the Night King and the Guardians of the Known World, Tormund gets saved, at the last second, by the Hound. Or when Benjen gallops into the battle at the very last minute, sacrificing himself to the zombie-horde so that Jon might ride again, even though both of them totally could have fit on that raft horse. Or when Daenerys herself arrives on the scene at precisely the right moment: to save the remaining Guardians, Jon, finally, included.

In some ways, those moments are simply continuations of approaches Game of Thrones has long taken in its storytelling: plot twists, destabilized time, a steadfast faith in magic—the kinds of powers that merge the world of the show and the world beyond it. The kinds that come from authors, and showrunners, and the surly demands of narrative. More and more, though, as the show approaches its final season, it has been losing its reassurance of narrative control. Its seams are showing. Its stories are cracking like so much zombie-ice. We are not meant to question—this is a fictional and fantastical world, after all—and yet it’s becoming more and more difficult not to. So while the show’s current season is establishing mysteries about sororicide, and incest, and zombie-dragons, it’s also establishing a broader one: Does this story still know what it’s doing? Will viewers’ longstanding faith in it, in the end, be rewarded?


Game of Thrones is in many ways a show about faith: in gods, in others, in oneself. But it also demands, as any such show will, another kind of faith—in storytelling. In authorship. In the universe that is being constructed as a setting for the other things—a universe full of its own authors. Who knows, in this world, things others do not? Who decides how the stories will play out, and how the games will be played? The Lord of Light, and the Three-Eyed Raven, and Bran, and Hodor, and time travel, and resurrections, and dragons, and magic: Their presence has made Game of Thrones not just a work of fantasy, but also, in its way, a work of logic. This is a universe with its own rules to be obeyed—and, for the audience, its own disbeliefs to be suspended. Wildfire works as a weapon because, in the show’s world, it literally works as a weapon. Bran becomes the Three-Eyed Raven because we watch him in the transformation. Arya has become “no one,” we understand, because we have watched her become so many someones.

That so little of this has seemed the tautology it is has been a credit to the show’s execution: Game of Thrones, with the help of its hefty budget, has been exceptionally good at the art of universe-construction. It has been fantasy that has, against all odds, made sense. What is dead may never die has long been an element of the show; the remarkable thing is that, for the most part, the death-fleeing has seemed a natural extension of the order of things rather than a violation of it.


Will Game of Thrones take the good faith it has built up over nearly seven seasons and squander it?


And yet here are some things that happened on Sunday’s show: Viewers learned that Arya carries around a set of rubbery death-masks in a tasteful leather satchel. And that ravens can travel, seemingly, at the speeds of turbo-jets. And that Gendry, on the ground, can somehow do the same. And that the army of the dead is as resourceful as it is populous, apparently, able as it was, after the battle was fought, to procure the massive chains with which to remove a dead dragon from icy waters. Maybe there’s a Home Depot conveniently located next to the Arby’s off the I(ce)-95?

In some ways, sure, all that is simply an extension of the disbelief-suspension that has always been a requirement of the show—the deus-ex-machina twists that have been presented not as easy solutions to narrative problems, but rather as evidence of the show’s cosmic surefootedness. Again and again, fate, which is to say the show’s authors, collectively, intercedes. The battle is lost—until Stannis makes a surprise appearance. Arya’s cover will be blown by Ser Amory—until Jaqen H’ghar kills him the second before he can tell her secrets. Daenerys and her small band of loyal advisors are doomed on Meereen, enclosed on by enemies—until Drogon shows up to save them, just in the nick of time. Jaime, in the line of dragon fire, is at the last minute pushed into a river by Bronn—and, then, rather than sinking to the bottom, as one might expect given the Kingslayer’s clothing (armor) and prosthetic (a hand made of gold), he survives by means unknown. Showrunners are their own kinds of gods; they tell their own kinds of truths.

But, now, winter has come. The series is coming to a close. The time for resolution is here. And the show has established, at this point, many more questions than answers. Is Arya still Arya, or someone—something—else? Will Bran, notably absent in Sunday’s episode, provide an as-yet-unseen salvation? Will the White Walker dragon breathe fire, or something else? Will the battle that will inevitably ensue be the final song of fire and ice? Is Jon Snow, infallible and invincible, the Drowned God? Will he and Daenerys—“Dany”—join the long line of coupled-off Targaryens?

They’re enticing questions. But “Beyond the Wall,” on Sunday, did not bode well for their answers. This is a season, after all, that has at times seemed almost overly aware of Thrones’s success as a cultural phenomenon. The Ed Sheeran cameo. The many, many meme-friendly moments. The plots that seem designed to get from one spectacular set piece to the next. As my colleague Spencer Kornhaber put it, “The fuzziness with time just adds to the impression that this is a story driven by coincidence and expedience rather than logic.” And it suggests a certain sloppiness in a show that has otherwise been so precise in its world-building—a sloppiness that asks other questions: Will Game of Thrones keep jumping sharks? Will it nuke fridges? Will it take the good faith it has built up over nearly seven seasons and squander it? Could it, in the end, go the way of Lost, its myths busted, its key questions unresolved?

Or: Is the show simply building, with all its moments of easy absurdity, to some final, pivotal plot twist?

Sunday’s grand battle followed in one of the traditions Game of Thrones has established over its seven seasons: It provided an epic event not to close out the season, but as a capper to the season’s penultimate episode. Next week’s finale will ostensibly yield, if past formulas are any indication, an episode that will pick up the pieces and start to make sense of the new world. It might provide another epic battle, cannily staged and stunningly shot. It might provide another extension of the question fans have been asking since those squawking dragons first crawled over Daenerys’s sooty shoulders at the end of the show’s first season: What if the Night King gets one? What then? We’ll soon find out. And we can safely assume that Jon Snow, saved by fate and fortune and the workings of a show that needs him, will be there to find out along with us.

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/08/deus-ex-westeros/537480/
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Post by: Mike Tyson on August 28, 2017, 11:15:51 AM
f**king hell. Can't wait for the next season!
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Post by: gallsman on August 28, 2017, 12:20:27 PM
Thought that was poor enough. They obviously used up all their CGI budget on the battles with the dragons as the CGI in the scene at the wall looked ridiculous.
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Post by: leenie on August 28, 2017, 03:32:24 PM
Didn't expect the person who was killed off  to happen.. thought they would have made it to the end ..
I thought it was a great episode
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Post by: Mike Tyson on August 28, 2017, 04:16:14 PM
Didn't expected the person who was killed off was going to happen.. thought they would have made it to the end ..
I thought it was a great episode

Glad they were killed off!

Cersci is a slippy ****. Couldn't trust her but can't help think she's completely lost jamie now and down the seeds of her own demise.
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Post by: Syferus on August 28, 2017, 04:22:05 PM
That was a return to form to say the least.

They rescued the Arya-Sansa storyline with that turn, albeit I didn't have faith in the show to be smart enough to actually be leading towards it. And at least it proved Bran wasn't just straight chilling for the whole season and actually did some good.

All the King's Landing stuff was great, characters exchanging knowing looks and every word felt like it had the weight of seven seasons of death and betrayals behind it. I especially enjoyed Theon getting his mojo back. If his uncle is ferrying mercs in Essos he should have a good chance at saving his sister, and it would be a fitting resolution and redemption for his story even if he was to die.

The final scene was great, total destruction and the first time you got the sense that these guys are a real threat to Seven Kingdoms. You do wonder what the fûck the Night King was going to do if Jon hadn't the bright idea to go get a wight and draw the dragons north. He's still a relatively weak villain because unlike everyone else he has little motive or character. And it's tough to see how they'll pull an about face and give him that in the final season, perhaps some Bran-o-vision.

You'd assume an assault on Winterfell will be coming early next season now.
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Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 28, 2017, 05:22:26 PM
I enjoyed it but have to say I thought it was a bit predictable. It tied up loose ends and the Arya Sansa piece was really well acted but also predictable. Jamie will kill his sister and have an about face. Jon will not marry the Mother of Dragons.
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Post by: gawa316 on August 28, 2017, 06:54:38 PM
So will Theon rescue Yara, kill their uncle take over the fleet with the armies from Essos and sail to the north to help out?
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Post by: Syferus on August 28, 2017, 07:06:47 PM
So will Theon rescue Yara, kill their uncle take over the fleet with the armies from Essos and sail to the north to help out?

Why would mercs being paid for by Cersei decide to follow Theon?
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Post by: gawa316 on August 28, 2017, 07:46:55 PM
So will Theon rescue Yara, kill their uncle take over the fleet with the armies from Essos and sail to the north to help out?

Why would mercs being paid for by Cersei decide to follow Theon?

Who knows...why would a brother want to buck his sister?? I've no idea but anything goes in this show
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Post by: laoislad on August 28, 2017, 08:23:03 PM
So will Theon rescue Yara, kill their uncle take over the fleet with the armies from Essos and sail to the north to help out?

Why would mercs being paid for by Cersei decide to follow Theon?

Who knows...why would a brother want to buck his sister?? I've no idea but anything goes in this show
Or why would anyone want to watch that shite   ;D
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Post by: gawa316 on August 28, 2017, 08:33:35 PM
So will Theon rescue Yara, kill their uncle take over the fleet with the armies from Essos and sail to the north to help out?

Why would mercs being paid for by Cersei decide to follow Theon?

Who knows...why would a brother want to buck his sister?? I've no idea but anything goes in this show
Or why would anyone want to watch that shite   ;D

Suppose all the shit that goes on in GOT is an everyday occurrence in Laois, so not that interesting to watch ;)
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Post by: screenexile on August 28, 2017, 11:15:29 PM
You have to wonder about people questioning whether a lad can swim to the top of a frozen lake in heavy clothes yet don't question when a dragon is brought back to life by "the dead"!

Just enjoy the show and try not to think about it so much you'll be all the better for it!
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Post by: straightred on August 28, 2017, 11:23:53 PM
I enjoyed it but have to say I thought it was a bit predictable. It tied up loose ends and the Arya Sansa piece was really well acted but also predictable. Jamie will kill his sister and have an about face. Jon will not marry the Mother of Dragons.

Enjoyed it tonight but shame that we have to wait to next year for the big finale. Its all coming together. Sansa finally came good - about time she grew a pair !
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Post by: leenie on August 28, 2017, 11:30:58 PM
What was with tyrions odd look the other two were getting jiggy.


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Also if danys got up the duff .. Jon would be his sons cousin  ..
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Post by: Syferus on August 29, 2017, 12:03:55 AM
You have to wonder about people questioning whether a lad can swim to the top of a frozen lake in heavy clothes yet don't question when a dragon is brought back to life by "the dead"!

Just enjoy the show and try not to think about it so much you'll be all the better for it!

I'm sorry but that is utter nonsense.

Every show has its own internal logic - this happens to be a world where dragons, undead and magic actually exist. I don't remember getting the memo about fúcking gravity working differently for main characters..
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Post by: screenexile on August 29, 2017, 11:28:10 AM
A Priestess brought him back from the dead and you struggle with the fact that he was able to swim to surface in heavy clothes?!!

Seriously you need to lighten up!
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Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 29, 2017, 12:25:06 PM
Really enjoyed the season and finale. Really hated little finger and was delighted at his demise. I like to be entertained and the show does that for me, but of the musings on here (detailed to say the least) really do baffle the mind. Each to their own I suppose.
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Post by: lurganblue on August 29, 2017, 12:49:23 PM
The smug look on little finger quickly turned. Thought that was a great scene.
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Post by: thewobbler on August 29, 2017, 12:55:13 PM
You have to wonder about people questioning whether a lad can swim to the top of a frozen lake in heavy clothes yet don't question when a dragon is brought back to life by "the dead"!

Just enjoy the show and try not to think about it so much you'll be all the better for it!

I'm sorry but that is utter nonsense.

Every show has its own internal logic - this happens to be a world where dragons, undead and magic actually exist. I don't remember getting the memo about fúcking gravity working differently for main characters..


A lot of GoT's internal logic though is determined by what the Gods want. As mentioned above, if the Gods want Jon Snow alive, then surely him floating to the top of a lake isn't that big an ask for them.


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I expect that GoT will end up with a Wire style conclusion that history just repeats itself indefinitely, with whoever it is that gains the throne surrounding themselves with maesters and politicians, who set about hiding, romanticising and rewriting history according to their agendas. Over the course of 10 generations, it all becomes so distorted that nobody really remembers, and 15 generations later a deep descendant of Ned Stark is warning that winter is coming.
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Post by: mrhardyannual on August 30, 2017, 09:31:52 PM
Looks like it will be 2019 before GoT returns.
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Post by: clarshack on October 23, 2017, 09:54:19 AM
watched season 1 last July (2016) and tbh wasn't too fussed about it. left it 12 months before watching season 2 and since then i've watched the whole lot. just finished season 7 last night. glad i stuck with it as it's been superb. it's good not having to avoid all the spoilers now lol!
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Post by: dec on April 14, 2019, 09:29:57 PM
So is anyone going to stay up until 2:00am Irish time to watch this, or try to avoid spoilers until Monday night. Easier for me in the US to watch at 9pm tonight. I only started watching in January so I have been binging on half a season a week, it will be a relief to be down to one episode a week.
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Post by: screenexile on April 14, 2019, 10:45:32 PM
Going to chance getting up for it!! Will see if I can manage it!
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Post by: ziggysego on April 15, 2019, 12:30:22 AM
Recording it at 2pm to watch sometime tomorrow at my own leisure.
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Post by: gallsman on April 15, 2019, 02:42:33 AM
Load of nonsense so far. f**king do something!
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Post by: Estimator on April 15, 2019, 09:37:48 AM
Load of nonsense so far. f**king do something!

**Spoilers**


Set the alarm and got up to watch it. Decent enough viewing.

The episode was always going to be scene setting and giving all the major players some screen time.  I think that everyone important appeared even if only for a few seconds.
Wasn't expecting too much action from the off.

I see Paddy Power are doing odds on 'Who will rule Westeros when Game of Thrones ends?', Noticed that Littlefinger was 12-1!!
There is a theory out there that it wasn't Littlefinger that Arya killed but one of the Faceless Men from Braavos!

On to points from the first episode:

Doesn't look like Jon was happy with the news.
The death of the Umber kid was very well done.
Great to see Bran and Jaime meeting again, and the Hound and Arya.
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Post by: oakleaflad on April 15, 2019, 01:26:46 PM
Load of nonsense so far. f**king do something!

**Spoilers**


Set the alarm and got up to watch it. Decent enough viewing.

The episode was always going to be scene setting and giving all the major players some screen time.  I think that everyone important appeared even if only for a few seconds.
Wasn't expecting too much action from the off.

I see Paddy Power are doing odds on 'Who will rule Westeros when Game of Thrones ends?', Noticed that Littlefinger was 12-1!!
There is a theory out there that it wasn't Littlefinger that Arya killed but one of the Faceless Men from Braavos!

On to points from the first episode:

Doesn't look like Jon was happy with the news.
The death of the Umber kid was very well done.
Great to see Bran and Jaime meeting again, and the Hound and Arya.
That's a good summary
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Post by: gallsman on April 15, 2019, 01:44:28 PM
What should have been two absolutely epic moments were ruined - Jon riding Rhaegal (named after his father) and learning the truth of his parentage.

The former was almost like comic relief and reminded me of Harry Potter's first broomstick flying lesson while the latter was ruined by Sam being a bumbling mess. "I'm sorry".
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Post by: Estimator on April 15, 2019, 03:47:29 PM
What should have been two absolutely epic moments were ruined - Jon riding Rhaegal (named after his father) and learning the truth of his parentage.

The former was almost like comic relief and reminded me of Harry Potter's first broomstick flying lesson while the latter was ruined by Sam being a bumbling mess. "I'm sorry".

I'd certainly agree that the two going for a spin on the dragons didn't work at all.
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Post by: dec on April 15, 2019, 05:55:06 PM
ruined by Sam being a bumbling mess. "I'm sorry".

I thought that was true to Sam's character, he is a bit of a bumbling mess.
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Post by: gallsman on April 15, 2019, 06:36:47 PM
Oh it was absolutely true to Sam as a character. My point is that I don't think that was the right manner in which to do the reveal. Some people have been waiting nearly 25 years for Jon to find out how parentage and it was all just a bit naff.
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Post by: andoireabu on April 15, 2019, 09:50:33 PM
Oh it was absolutely true to Sam as a character. My point is that I don't think that was the right manner in which to do the reveal. Some people have been waiting nearly 25 years for Jon to find out how parentage and it was all just a bit naff.

How would you have done it?

Thought it was a good start showing where all the main hitters are and setting them up for the rest of the season. Was worth the wait
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Post by: redcard on April 16, 2019, 09:08:54 AM
What should have been two absolutely epic moments were ruined - Jon riding Rhaegal (named after his father) and learning the truth of his parentage.

The former was almost like comic relief and reminded me of Harry Potter's first broomstick flying lesson while the latter was ruined by Sam being a bumbling mess. "I'm sorry".

I'd certainly agree that the two going for a spin on the dragons didn't work at all.

If they had played “Raindrops keep falling on my head” during that scene it would have been so much better
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Post by: trailer on April 16, 2019, 10:05:31 AM
It was pretty much a roll call. Who's still alive and their current location. Dunno what the outcome of Jon and Daneyarys will be. Probably some sort of fucked up child. Probably a Dragon child.

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Post by: Mayo4Sam on April 16, 2019, 10:34:10 AM
You could see the moment where Jon realised he’s riding his aunt
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Post by: screenexile on April 16, 2019, 10:36:29 AM
It was pretty much a roll call. Who's still alive and their current location. Dunno what the outcome of Jon and Daneyarys will be. Probably some sort of fucked up child. Probably a Dragon child.

Sounds pretty cool!!
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Post by: bennydorano on April 16, 2019, 01:10:14 PM
Sansa would IMO be obvious favourite (maybe too obvious) to be sitting on the Iron Throne come the end, she's 5/1 on oddschecker, Bran fav at 6/5.
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Post by: omagh_gael on April 16, 2019, 01:26:51 PM
I think there's a good chance that Daneyarys will go all mad queeny when she finds out the news. John forced to kill her?

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Post by: gallsman on April 16, 2019, 01:59:15 PM
I think there's a good chance that Daneyarys will go all mad queeny when she finds out the news. John forced to kill her?

Jon as Azor Ahai would have him killing her alright.
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Post by: ziggysego on April 16, 2019, 02:47:35 PM
I enjoyed it. Almost two years now since it was last on, so it was just a reintroduction and all happy-families (though Jon and Khaleesi got a little too happy). Big reunions all over the place.

It can only mean one thing, next week is going to be a bloodbath.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omagh_gael on April 16, 2019, 05:53:54 PM
I enjoyed it. Almost two years now since it was last on, so it was just a reintroduction and all happy-families (though Jon and Khaleesi got a little too happy). Big reunions all over the place.

It can only mean one thing, next week is going to be a bloodbath.

Not yet. Next episode will be moving the army of the dead into position and episode 3 will be the war of Winterfell.

Episode 3 to 6 are all around the 1hr 20min mark. Should be epic!

On a side note, do any of you listen to any GOT podcasts? I find the Bald Move one very good.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: LooseCannon on April 16, 2019, 06:37:20 PM
How do people watch this shite? The teletubbies provide more entertainment.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Frank_The_Tank on April 16, 2019, 06:57:04 PM
How do people watch this shite? The teletubbies provide more entertainment.

Have you watched it all?  Sure stick to teletubbies for your entertainment.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on April 21, 2019, 10:54:00 PM
Decent episode. The third should be spectacular.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: dec on April 21, 2019, 11:03:17 PM
Decent episode. The third should be spectacular.

You've seen the second?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gallsman on April 21, 2019, 11:06:45 PM
Yes. Leaked about 4 hours ago.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: gawa316 on April 22, 2019, 06:29:37 AM
Bit of comedy in that episode...Giants milk🤣
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: lurganblue on April 24, 2019, 10:19:29 AM
Another slow scene setting episode.  A calm before the storm.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: screenexile on April 24, 2019, 01:47:48 PM
The Giant's milk story is the best/funniest thing I think I've ever heard nearly spat my tea out listening to it hilarious!!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: trailer on April 24, 2019, 02:31:25 PM
Jesus but it's like the night before Christmas only there a greater anticipation of death.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: omagh_gael on April 25, 2019, 08:23:00 AM
Tormond has had some great lines already. However, my favourite was when he arrived back at Winterfell and asked Jon is the big woman still here. The look on his face was priceless.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: TabClear on April 25, 2019, 08:59:46 AM
Pretty slow burner so far but looks like the carnage is bound to start this week. I have a feeling that  the people that were shown preparing for battle during Podric's song (Grey Worm, Davos etc) could be on borrowed time.

A lot of rumours online that Dany's comment in the trailers that "The dead are already here" could be a key twist!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: lurganblue on April 25, 2019, 11:20:28 AM
Talk that the next episode will be the longest of the series.  It is supposed to be one of the longest battle scenes ever, being compared to the Helm's Deep battle in Lord of the Rings.  It's really anyone's guess who will survive.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: nrico2006 on April 25, 2019, 11:29:15 AM
What is the plan for this season? Will the white walkers be sorted half way through with the remaining episodes focusing on getting the throne and sorting Cersei?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: trailer on April 25, 2019, 11:41:18 AM
Cersei is getting a right bit of sorting all the same. The guy from the Iron islands gave her one and hasn't Jamie put a live round in her. At this rate Tyrion is probably due to mount her before seasons end. She's a dirty ole bitch.
Hats of to the writers and directors. Pile of riding in it to be fair.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: johnnycool on April 25, 2019, 11:52:49 AM
Cersei is getting a right bit of sorting all the same. The guy from the Iron islands gave her one and hasn't Jamie put a live round in her. At this rate Tyrion is probably due to mount her before seasons end. She's a dirty ole bitch.
Hats of to the writers and directors. Pile of riding in it to be fair.

Bron is the mainman in that regard it seems.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: TabClear on April 25, 2019, 12:00:48 PM
What is the plan for this season? Will the white walkers be sorted half way through with the remaining episodes focusing on getting the throne and sorting Cersei?

I dont think so. I think the Night King will be around right to the final scenes and will have a big say in who ends up on the throne (if anyone). Thats one thing about GoT, it is not your normal "the good guys get there in the end" show.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: trailer on April 25, 2019, 12:22:40 PM
What is the plan for this season? Will the white walkers be sorted half way through with the remaining episodes focusing on getting the throne and sorting Cersei?

I dont think so. I think the Night King will be around right to the final scenes and will have a big say in who ends up on the throne (if anyone). Thats one thing about GoT, it is not your normal "the good guys get there in the end" show.

They fought the dead before. That was discovered in the last series in paintings etc and I assume that is why the wall was built and the Nights watch put insitu. To keep the dead at bay. So I doubt the Night king will be killed. Defeated perhaps. It'll then be a race to King's Landing.
But hey, who f**king knows, the Night King might defeat them all, shoot down to King's Landing, empty the bag into Cersei and they could live happily ever after in a semi long night foreverness. It's that fucked up.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: thewobbler on April 25, 2019, 12:36:35 PM
What is the plan for this season? Will the white walkers be sorted half way through with the remaining episodes focusing on getting the throne and sorting Cersei?

I dont think so. I think the Night King will be around right to the final scenes and will have a big say in who ends up on the throne (if anyone). Thats one thing about GoT, it is not your normal "the good guys get there in the end" show.

I’d be surprised if the walkers aren’t wiped out in full by episode 4.

If there’s morals anywhere in the story it’s that a) human cultures are absolutely horrible b**tards to each other, unless they encounter something that forces them to work together, and b) human cultures will continue to do the same horrible things to each other on an endless loop.

My inkling is that destruction of the walkers will lead to a happy (enough) unification of the Targaryens and Starks, which will steamroll over the Lannisters, and whereby Jon and Dani rule from Kings Landing and Sansa holds the Warden of the North. In effect, pretty much back to where we were at the start; a largely peaceful and functional Westeros.

But a lack of useful progeny (which is what should happen when the king and queen are aunt and nephew) will see various claims to the throne unearthed 20 years down the line, and a Lannister revolution - likely led by Cersei’s new offspring or maybe a b**tard of Tyrion - will kick the whole thing off again properly.


Quick summary - the night king and the dead are a control mechanism by the gods, to ensure that humans work together every once in a while.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: screenexile on April 25, 2019, 12:41:16 PM
Just saw a video of references to the crypt and how 'safe' it will be down there . . . bound to be a bloodbath!!!!

Will the Whitewalkers resurrect Ned Stark?? Is that possible?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: trailer on April 25, 2019, 01:19:43 PM
Just saw a video of references to the crypt and how 'safe' it will be down there . . . bound to be a bloodbath!!!!

Will the Whitewalkers resurrect Ned Stark?? Is that possible?

They happened to have giant chains to pull a dragon out of the depth of the sea and turn it into a white walker dragon. Bringing Ned Stark back would probably be a walk in the park.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: Billys Boots on April 25, 2019, 01:31:46 PM
What is the plan for this season? Will the white walkers be sorted half way through with the remaining episodes focusing on getting the throne and sorting Cersei?

I dont think so. I think the Night King will be around right to the final scenes and will have a big say in who ends up on the throne (if anyone). Thats one thing about GoT, it is not your normal "the good guys get there in the end" show.

I’d be surprised if the walkers aren’t wiped out in full by episode 4.

If there’s morals anywhere in the story it’s that a) human cultures are absolutely horrible b**tards to each other, unless they encounter something that forces them to work together, and b) human cultures will continue to do the same horrible things to each other on an endless loop.

My inkling is that destruction of the walkers will lead to a happy (enough) unification of the Targaryens and Starks, which will steamroll over the Lannisters, and whereby Jon and Dani rule from Kings Landing and Sansa holds the Warden of the North. In effect, pretty much back to where we were at the start; a largely peaceful and functional Westeros.

But a lack of useful progeny (which is what should happen when the king and queen are aunt and nephew) will see various claims to the throne unearthed 20 years down the line, and a Lannister revolution - likely led by Cersei’s new offspring or maybe a b**tard of Tyrion - will kick the whole thing off again properly.


Quick summary - the night king and the dead are a control mechanism by the gods, to ensure that humans work together every once in a while.

I agree.  I think there will be an ending emphasising the cyclical nature of the 'game'.  Order will be restored, the wall will be rebuilt, the black watch will be reconstituted, and it will all begin again.  I can see the final 10 minutes in the last episode being a look forward 200 years and the whole cycle starting again. 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers
Post by: markl121 on April 25, 2019, 02:12:41 PM
It will begin again with another incestuous couple on the throne in danerys and jon. Bran will be bran the builder and build it all again and sansa will be the stark in winterfell. Hoping for a white walker victory though.