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Title: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on March 21, 2015, 03:15:47 PM
Used to be a thread for this on Laoistalk.

Anyway, to kick it off, I see Killeen are at it again and have signed two of last year's Spink intermediate team.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Heshs Umpire on March 23, 2015, 10:24:55 AM
John Dunphy, the former Laois minor and under 21 goalie is one of the lads Arles Killeen have signed. Competition for Mick Leigh who must be around 36 now?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: redsetanta on March 23, 2015, 10:26:10 AM
How are they able to manage that?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Heshs Umpire on March 23, 2015, 10:38:49 AM
Don't know. It doesn't endear them to people though.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Thewildcat on March 23, 2015, 11:19:59 AM
How are they able to manage that?

they are the Man City of laois club football. ;D
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: redsetanta on March 23, 2015, 11:31:46 AM
Fair enough but how much of a 'club man' is a fella who leaves his own club to join Killeen.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: portlaoisekid on March 23, 2015, 11:34:34 AM
Begs the question of why they join Killeen? I wonder ...................
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Thewildcat on March 23, 2015, 04:25:43 PM
Fair enough but how much of a 'club man' is a fella who leaves his own club to join Killeen.
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his not the first one to do it down that part of the woods is he.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: portlaoisekid on March 23, 2015, 07:09:10 PM
Is it true Billy Sheehan is not playing club football for anyone this year? I think we were all under the impression he was joining KIlcruise but that seems wrong now.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: redsetanta on March 24, 2015, 10:29:31 AM
He was interested in joining them as he is very friendly with alot ofthe lads, particularly the county players. Things were not going so well with Emo at the time. Doesn't look like it will be happening though for whatever reason. Mad to think he is playing with the county and no club football.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Unlaoised on March 24, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
What other Spink player joined Kileen?I was sure I heard they joined Kilcruise?

Seems very strange and how is it allowed?

Can anyone transfer nowadays?

Did some Kildare club player join Kilcruise as well??

Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: redsetanta on March 24, 2015, 10:51:30 AM
Re The Kildare club player. His father is from Arles and played with them before moving up to Moone or someplace close to that.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Unlaoised on March 24, 2015, 03:56:25 PM
Interesting....

Dunphy is a decent keeper and excellent at 45s
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Thewildcat on March 24, 2015, 09:09:52 PM
Is it true Billy Sheehan is not playing club football for anyone this year? I think we were all under the impression he was joining KIlcruise but that seems wrong now.

Don't think billy ever played for Emo, maybe he is looking to back and play with the star back in tralee :D
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on March 25, 2015, 12:46:07 AM
How are they able to manage that?

I heard that when Derek Hayden played with them he was "given" a house in Killeen to live in and provide an address which seemingly made him eligible.
The house belongs to a prominent Killeen clubman and it seems that house could be the key to all this stuff...
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on March 25, 2015, 10:42:37 AM
The 2 Kingstons, the 2 O'Shea lads, the 2 O'Rourkes from Graigue, now these 2 Spink lads.
If they do ever manage to win the senior, it'll be fairly hollow.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Gmac on March 26, 2015, 08:07:52 PM
The kingstons are related to a lot of people in the club so I think that accounts for them
If you think people are going around looking for players to poach you are a bit niave what are they
Offering ? Money? Get real look at the pitch and facilities if they had any money it would be going there, I think players are looking to leave clubs which in those  players opinion are not good enough for them and Arles/Killeen is a club which will not have a problem taking them.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Laois fan on March 26, 2015, 10:44:06 PM
Think the naive one here may be you if you believe all these transfers don't seem a bit suspicious
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Gmac on March 26, 2015, 11:53:58 PM
Next time I see abramovich in farrells il ask him how much all this is costing
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Unlaoised on March 27, 2015, 09:05:15 AM
Next time I see abramovich in farrells il ask him how much all this is costing


 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Good answer
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: maccer on March 27, 2015, 10:19:37 AM
to go off on a slight tangent this situation is just an example of the poor direction many clubs have been taking. the pursuit of short term success seems to be the only thing on their minds.  i know killeen might be the most obvious offender but what about the thousands of euro small clubs hand out to outside managers / strenght and conditioning coaches every year. club 'development' lottos are being used to pay these fees. think what that money could do to help with young  player development. maybe clubs would'nt have to look elsewhere for players then.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Give and Go on March 27, 2015, 12:50:12 PM
Transfers go on in many counties with some clubs serial offenders.
the Billy Sheehan case is an interesting one.
Clubs are rightly criticised if they 'poach' players or play players who have no affiliation to them but in Sheehan's case is the County Board complicit in playing an illegal players.
If Sheehan is not a native of Laois, isn't playing for a club in Laois and possibly not even living in Laois surely that is driving a horse and carriage through the rules of eligibility!

Clubs on the borders of counties are the worst offenders with transfers. I mean some of the transfers are blatantly illegal yet they get away with it.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Heshs Umpire on March 28, 2015, 09:36:42 PM
The kingstons are related to a lot of people in the club so I think that accounts for them

Being related to people accounts for nothing....
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: portlaoisekid on March 29, 2015, 12:16:32 PM
I find it hard to see how lads leaving clubs within a small county like Laois to join another club can be justified.

My own club had a hurler who joined from a nearby club a few years back and tbh it was a disgrace it ever happened and my friends from that other club on a sporting level will never forgive him for leaving for Portlaoise.

Every club gets the odd outsider joining them but in the majority of cases its a matter of work or living arrangements not being poached.  How these clubs can afford these transfers is beyond me. Is it just a Laois thing that lads are willing to move between clubs ? We all have examples of lads willing to move , I could name 3 inter county players from last 3 seasons that looked for transfers to Portlaoise but were turned down and my mates at other clubs can tell similar stories.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on March 29, 2015, 06:37:53 PM
I find it hard to see how lads leaving clubs within a small county like Laois to join another club can be justified.

My own club had a hurler who joined from a nearby club a few years back and tbh it was a disgrace it ever happened and my friends from that other club on a sporting level will never forgive him for leaving for Portlaoise.

That man in question is back with his previous club. Welcomed back hopefully it'll all work out!
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on March 30, 2015, 05:08:39 PM
I find it hard to see how lads leaving clubs within a small county like Laois to join another club can be justified.

My own club had a hurler who joined from a nearby club a few years back and tbh it was a disgrace it ever happened and my friends from that other club on a sporting level will never forgive him for leaving for Portlaoise.

That man in question is back with his previous club. Welcomed back hopefully it'll all work out! New to this forum so apologies with the typo!
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Thewildcat on March 30, 2015, 05:35:46 PM
Transfers go on in many counties with some clubs serial offenders.
the Billy Sheehan case is an interesting one.
Clubs are rightly criticised if they 'poach' players or play players who have no affiliation to them but in Sheehan's case is the County Board complicit in playing an illegal players.
If Sheehan is not a native of Laois, isn't playing for a club in Laois and possibly not even living in Laois surely that is driving a horse and carriage through the rules of eligibility!

Clubs on the borders of counties are the worst offenders with transfers. I mean some of the transfers are blatantly illegal yet they get away with it.


agree with this, but you would wonder how the jasus does he get picked for the county panel, its not as if he is a stand out player in the laois senior championship its no wonder they are on the jaws of division 3.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Heshs Umpire on May 15, 2015, 08:51:32 AM
Darren Rooney has gone back home to Clonaslee from Parnells.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on May 15, 2015, 10:27:40 PM
Darren Rooney has gone back home to Clonaslee from Parnells.

He must be 35 or 36 now.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on June 01, 2015, 09:36:44 PM
Any high profile players gone to America or J1s from Laois?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Buffalobull on June 02, 2015, 02:36:47 PM
Cheddar, Mathew and Jim Fitz all back! Hopefully we drive on for Sunday now and out all this is the past!
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on June 27, 2015, 04:31:18 PM
Billy Sheehan leaving Emo for St Jude's in Dublin.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Teo Lurley on June 27, 2015, 05:26:25 PM
He's given everything he could to the Laois cause for over a decade, sometimes what he could do wasn't the best be we can't fault him for effort. He hasn't announced it but surely he wont be back for Laois either way. Best of luck to Billy in Dublin, I'm sure he'll have a great time up there. :D
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Timmy on June 27, 2015, 05:30:04 PM
But he's also treated the emo club disgracefully
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on June 27, 2015, 06:42:59 PM
When was the last time he played with Emo? Seemed to be absent for quite a while if I'm not mistaken.

Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Timmy on June 28, 2015, 02:57:21 AM
Exactly...yet he was always available for laois. He was only eligible to play for laois because his club was emo. A club he refused to play for. Basically used them to play inter county football. In my opinion he should not have been considered for laois while refusing to play for his club.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BallyroanAbu on June 28, 2015, 08:35:58 AM
Not Sheehan's greatest fan.  He got the max out of himself and his career and in fairness lived for playing ball.  Never really was comfortable with him playing for Laois and at best he was only slightly ahead of plenty of players in the county.  I would think a blowin would have to be considerably better to be selected.  Saying that he gave everything for Laois nothing more uncomfortable though than a Kerry man in a Laois Jersey asking you to have pride in your county:)
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on June 28, 2015, 06:48:14 PM
Never was a Billy fan but he travelled when a lot of natives wouldn't. He used EMO to become eligible to play for LaoIs but he isn't the only player(s) who have abused the very lapse Leinster CLG/Laois transfer system. One of our "top" senior clubs consist of players who received some very debatable transfers on an annual basis so we cannot complain too much about Billy. 
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on June 29, 2015, 01:43:14 PM
But he's also treated the emo club disgracefully
They were happy enough to welcome him with open arms and offer him an address. They can't be too sore. Billy gave more to the Laois shirt than a lot of heralded stars born and bred in the place. Best of luck to him. His wife is a beoir too.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: OTF on June 29, 2015, 09:02:54 PM
But he's also treated the emo club disgracefully
They were happy enough to welcome him with open arms and offer him an address. They can't be too sore. Billy gave more to the Laois shirt than a lot of heralded stars born and bred in the place. Best of luck to him. His wife is a beoir too.

Exactly best of luck Billy.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Melancholy Sloth on July 04, 2015, 04:28:52 PM
Bit of strange transfer news, but Ballypickas (between Ballyroan and Ballinakill if you've never heard of them) have drafted in two hurlers from Wexford. I believe one of them has represented Wexford Intermediates at some level. Don't know the connection but seems like a good bit of business for an intermediate club.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on August 05, 2015, 08:53:10 AM
Barry Brennan back with Graigue from Wexford.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on January 27, 2016, 08:49:13 PM
Hi all!

Anybody hear of new faces around the county football and hurling? I heard that young Duggan chap transferred back to Camross from Portlaoise. Normally a few strange ones in Laois most years.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on January 27, 2016, 10:52:14 PM
Harps have lost former county hurler Sean Burke to Naomh Olaf in Dublin.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on January 29, 2016, 01:47:38 PM
Billy O Loughlin transfered from Kileen to St Lomans and i hear they are hunting  in for replacements...as is normal down there
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on April 20, 2016, 10:26:34 AM
Richie Ryan back with Ballylinan from St Laurence's.
Colm Begley back with Stradbally from Parnells.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on April 20, 2016, 03:12:44 PM
Begley will be an addition to Stradbally no doubt once he's fit!
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Heshs Umpire on April 20, 2016, 03:35:57 PM
Two clubs that were in relegation battles last year picking up a player each. Who drops out of senior this year will be fascinating.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Unlaoised on April 28, 2016, 09:13:36 AM
Two clubs that were in relegation battles last year picking up a player each. Who drops out of senior this year will be fascinating.

Ballyfin and Clonaslee will be hot favourites with Crettyard and Killeshin and Ballylinan being close as well..




Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: portlaoisekid on June 12, 2016, 10:32:19 AM
There's a mighty strong rumour John O'loughlin is transferring to portlaoise, how true it is I don't know but everybody has it ATM.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Tony on June 12, 2016, 12:00:48 PM
That would be massive news but wouldn't make sense with Mountmellick beside Portlaoise. I highly doubt that.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Downtheroad on June 12, 2016, 01:50:37 PM
John O'Loughlin transferring to Portlaoise is doing the rounds for ages. It may happen but I don't see it happening this year. As far as I know he is still playing with St Brigids and I imagine he played in the 1st round of the Dublin SFC. if that's the case, he will be ineligible for local championship. Whatever about Mountmellick, I reckon other clubs will be peeved if he heads to the town.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on June 12, 2016, 02:41:28 PM
That would be massive news but wouldn't make sense with Mountmellick beside Portlaoise. I highly doubt that.

Rosenallis isn't too far away either  ;)
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Bueller on June 12, 2016, 02:42:43 PM
Lads, have ye not been listening to me? I'm blue in the face telling ye. Portlaoise have taken the gloves off. The recruitment is on. At all levels. I know a parent who was approached in a recent U14 game about their child and would they be interested in coming to kick with the town. Stories like this are all over the parish. And they make no bones about it.

Whatever about John, and it has been doing the rounds since pre Brigids, the rest is happening. And they don't care what you think.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Tony on June 12, 2016, 03:30:08 PM
Have I not been listening to you Bueller?

Well.....actually....no - I've no idea who you are or what you've been saying to be honest.  ;D

I was approached by a big club to play ball with them when I was younger. Thing is, I had a choice and my parents have a choice. Portlaoise can ask but they're not forcing anyone to play with them in fairness.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Dave like the tv channel on June 12, 2016, 04:19:34 PM
That would be massive news but wouldn't make sense with Mountmellick beside Portlaoise. I highly doubt that.

Rosenallis isn't too far away either  ;)

That'd be some leap. Senior football in Dublin -> Junior football in Laois.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on June 12, 2016, 04:34:51 PM
That would be massive news but wouldn't make sense with Mountmellick beside Portlaoise. I highly doubt that.

Rosenallis isn't too far away either  ;)

That'd be some leap. Senior football in Dublin -> Junior football in Laois.

Close to his heart though  ;)
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Tony on June 12, 2016, 06:07:34 PM
Why wouldn't he go back to Mountmellick if he's transferring back to Laois though? Makes no sense to me. Did he fall out with the club or something.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Bueller on June 12, 2016, 07:31:01 PM
Why wouldn't he go back to Mountmellick if he's transferring back to Laois though? Makes no sense to me. Did he fall out with the club or something.
Take your head out of the sand and join the rest of us in the real world.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Tony on June 12, 2016, 07:42:43 PM
Wow, bit techy there today Bueller. Taking things a bit seriously for an anonymous forum about a game it seems  ;D. Did you have your daily toilet today? You sound a bit blocked up.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Heshs Umpire on June 12, 2016, 10:36:19 PM
I may be wrong but I thought the rule book prevents players from transferring from a club and then transferring back to a different club in the original county.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on June 12, 2016, 11:47:49 PM
I may be wrong but I thought the rule book prevents players from transferring from a club and then transferring back to a different club in the original county.
Rule book Section 6.6 Subsection (i) A player who transfers from one County to another County, and within 96 weeks thereafter transfers back to the former County, shall rejoin the Club of which he was a member prior to the initial transfer.
How long ago is it since JL joined St Bridgids....more or less then 96 weeks ????....there's you anwer
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on June 13, 2016, 01:34:35 AM
I may be wrong but I thought the rule book prevents players from transferring from a club and then transferring back to a different club in the original county.
Rule book Section 6.6 Subsection (i) A player who transfers from one County to another County, and within 96 weeks thereafter transfers back to the former County, shall rejoin the Club of which he was a member prior to the initial transfer.
How long ago is it since JL joined St Bridgids....more or less then 96 weeks ????....there's you anwer

It's well beyond the 96 weeks.
http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/gaelic-games/96408/Mountmellick--hit-out-at-Dublin.html

There is absolutely nothing to stop this if it is what JOL wants. I would still doubt it is true that he does want this.

There is also practically no way of legislating rules that would stop a move like this.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on June 13, 2016, 12:28:22 PM
JOL Would be a big loss if he were to shun Mountmellick for the Town. Doing primary teaching now hence why tie to St Brigids may not be as strong anymore.
Senior competition in both codes very tempting considering he's nearly at his peak at moment.
Am I right in saying mountmellick are with Ballyfin in senior B competition can anyone clarify this?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Dave like the tv channel on June 13, 2016, 09:13:46 PM
It would be very disappointing if JOL was allowed to move to Portlaoise. What would that do for the Laois SFC for the next 3/4 years, if he's allowed to go there? Hand it to Portlaoise, that's what.

They're coming back to the pack and are now going to artificially inflate their prospects by doing this. Will the Central Council or any other council rule against it in the interest of fairness?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Downtheroad on June 13, 2016, 11:53:01 PM
It would be very disappointing if JOL was allowed to move to Portlaoise. What would that do for the Laois SFC for the next 3/4 years, if he's allowed to go there? Hand it to Portlaoise, that's what.

They're coming back to the pack and are now going to artificially inflate their prospects by doing this. Will the Central Council or any other council rule against it in the interest of fairness?
Fairness is a word missing from the GAA lexicon. A couple of Mountmellick lads are playing senior with Ballyfin so that option is available to JOL. I imagine if he went back to Mountmellick, it would be a serious shot in the arm for the club.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on June 15, 2016, 08:20:30 PM
I've heard that there is no truth in the JOL to Portlaoise rumour.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on June 16, 2016, 12:46:17 AM
I've heard that there is no truth in the JOL to Portlaoise rumour.

I would doubt it also.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Heshs Umpire on July 05, 2016, 10:59:14 AM
I may be wrong but I thought the rule book prevents players from transferring from a club and then transferring back to a different club in the original county.
Rule book Section 6.6 Subsection (i) A player who transfers from one County to another County, and within 96 weeks thereafter transfers back to the former County, shall rejoin the Club of which he was a member prior to the initial transfer.
How long ago is it since JL joined St Bridgids....more or less then 96 weeks ????....there's you anwer

Thanks for that clarification - so he could theoretically move to any club in the county.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Dave like the tv channel on July 05, 2016, 11:33:56 PM
I may be wrong but I thought the rule book prevents players from transferring from a club and then transferring back to a different club in the original county.
Rule book Section 6.6 Subsection (i) A player who transfers from one County to another County, and within 96 weeks thereafter transfers back to the former County, shall rejoin the Club of which he was a member prior to the initial transfer.
How long ago is it since JL joined St Bridgids....more or less then 96 weeks ????....there's you anwer

Thanks for that clarification - so he could theoretically move to any club in the county.

Are Courtwood tabling a bid, Hesh?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Heshs Umpire on July 06, 2016, 05:17:42 PM
I may be wrong but I thought the rule book prevents players from transferring from a club and then transferring back to a different club in the original county.
Rule book Section 6.6 Subsection (i) A player who transfers from one County to another County, and within 96 weeks thereafter transfers back to the former County, shall rejoin the Club of which he was a member prior to the initial transfer.
How long ago is it since JL joined St Bridgids....more or less then 96 weeks ????....there's you anwer

Thanks for that clarification - so he could theoretically move to any club in the county.

Are Courtwood tabling a bid, Hesh?

 :) Around 3 John O'Loughlins would do us just fine!
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on July 06, 2016, 06:56:48 PM
Scott Conroy back with Ballyroan Abbey. He'll be a big help to their championship campaign.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on October 18, 2016, 08:39:39 PM
Heard Timahoe hurlers potentially might not be fielding a hurling team in 2017 with players open to transfer to surrounding clubs. Any truth in this?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: burdizzo on October 18, 2016, 10:03:24 PM
I believe there's a bit of bad feeling amongst those who prefer hurling, because their management gave two walkovers in the intermediate championship - including a relegation play-off - although they were able to field in the Junior C. The football end seemingly is scapegoating the hurlers for the fact the footballers couldn't win their intermediate championship, so it's a bit up in the air, I think. However, it's hard to see them letting their hurlers off, because they night well not play football for them then, either. Who knows.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Ballyroan Abbey on October 18, 2016, 10:13:12 PM
Heard they are in discussions with two clubs about going to play with them, could end up that half go to each apparently
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on October 18, 2016, 10:19:04 PM
Heard they are in discussions with two clubs about going to play with them, could end up that half go to each apparently

If it does happen I'm sure it would be determined by players where they go. A choice of Ballinakill, Clonad Ballypickas or Park ratheniska surely.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Ballyroan Abbey on October 18, 2016, 10:31:16 PM
Heard they are in discussions with two clubs about going to play with them, could end up that half go to each apparently

If it does happen I'm sure it would be determined by players where they go. A choice of Ballinakill, Clonad Ballypickas or Park ratheniska surely.


Fair point, realistically there should be a club for both hurling and football in every parish or between 2 parishes, if timahoe dont put in a team this will mean hurling gone from stradbally parish which would be a shame, although i do understand that the dominant sport in most parishes rules all i have my doubts that there wouldnt be 20 lads between emo, courtwood, killenard, ballybrittis and portarlington interested in playing hurling, likewise theres surely 20 lads intrestex in kicking ball between rathdowney/errill and ballacolla
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on October 18, 2016, 10:42:21 PM
I wonder is it possible they may retain as a junior a team and go as a gaels team to somewhere else I wonder, Ballinakill being suited as their arrangement with Slieve Margy is in place. Not sure if it would be possible for the likes of Clonad or Park Ratheniska in intermediate. I echo your point regarding no hurling team in Stradbally parish it would be a shame alright. Though at underage some timahoe players play with Park ratheniska and Clonad and some but very little from Stradbally. Of course when push comes to shove in later years football will most likely take precedent with the majority as is the status quo.

Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Heshs Umpire on October 18, 2016, 11:25:11 PM
quotes have my doubts that there wouldnt be 20 lads between emo, courtwood, killenard, ballybrittis and portarlington interested in playing hurling
Compulsory helmets finished our hurling team!  ;D
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on October 18, 2016, 11:37:46 PM

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Compulsory helmets finished our hurling team!  ;D
[/quote]

The softening of the game so it seemed with the helmets  8)
They've reintroduced hurling out in Portarlington at underage along with St Pauls. Be interesting how long it will last. It'll be the football that'll finish the hurling out there ::)
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: burdizzo on October 19, 2016, 07:42:49 AM
Yeah, I wonder how long Slieve Margy will last.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: redsetanta on October 19, 2016, 11:42:59 AM
The likes of Slieve Margy and Graigue should be getting every bit of help available to ensure that hurling survives. They should be getting coaching sessions and grant specific aid if it's there.
A project like Slieve Margy should be helped and prevented from failing once there are willing hurlers involved. It can be very hard to keep things going if you are continually shipping heavy defeats so encouragement and support are key.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on October 19, 2016, 01:13:22 PM
With the GAA course in IT Carlow and with the Slieve Margy and Graiguecullen being close to the college surely the likes of some Games officer might be of interest to help get hurling a better profile. Might be an interesting project to pursue in the college in terms of promoting hurling in the so-called football area and getting a few experienced lads on the course taking a few sessions and club mentors shadow some of the coaching skills (Fundamental ABC's and so on) . I know in Carlow town there was a new hurling club set up recently (Setanta if I'm not mistaken). The only way the hurling might have a chance of surviving if it is persistently carried out rather than having a hurl in the corner and picking it up occasionally.
Maybe it's all a pipe dream.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on November 01, 2016, 02:25:40 PM
I see Adam Ryan leaving Port for St Jude's. Pity.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on November 01, 2016, 04:35:02 PM
How would this effect the c'ship structures? nobody relegated from intermediate downwards?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on November 01, 2016, 04:52:34 PM
How would this effect the c'ship structures? nobody relegated from intermediate downwards?
You in the right forum Spec?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on November 01, 2016, 05:07:34 PM
My question was about timahoe hurling being disbanded. Forgot there were a number of comments subsequently! 🙈
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on November 01, 2016, 05:39:42 PM
Seemingly all Timahoe want to do is drop down to have team in likes of Junior B or C. Problem is there's decent lads in the club who prefer the hurling over the football who's hurling needs aren't being met at all in the club. 13 lads to play an intermediate championship match second round vs camross this year and if even 2 or 3 hurling sessions in the entire year. Word is Timahoe wont let lads transfer and possibly a gaels team might be an option.
They are relegated to Junior A anyways for 2017. They have a Junior C team which they fielded prior to intermediate championship. If they dropped to Junior B or C that'd mean Mountmellick would stay up though I highly doubt that would happen. What could possibly happen if possible that a gaels team with possibly Clonad at intermediate in 2017. A suggestion. No more than that at the moment. I know lads from Timahoe tried to transfer about 6 years ago when Clonad were stronger in intermediate but was rejected.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Ballyroan Abbey on November 01, 2016, 05:45:25 PM
Heard that they have been approached about amalgamating their hurling team with one of their neighbours, about 5 of them who play on the inter football team have threatwned to walk altogether if this doesnt happen or they arent allowed play somewhere
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on November 01, 2016, 05:51:18 PM
Probably Ballypickas if an amalgamation is the case. Though an gaels team with Clonad or Park Ratheniska could be possible. The'd keep their junior A team and be able to play at intermediate hurling with potential to go at higher grade.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Ballyroan Abbey on November 01, 2016, 06:08:19 PM
Cant do it with an intermediate team
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on November 01, 2016, 06:16:35 PM
Not even a gaels team? Considering Intermediate is essentially 3rd tier hurling in Laois and yet gaels team is possible for the football.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Ballyroan Abbey on November 01, 2016, 06:23:08 PM
Can only do it with senior teams or to enter a senior championship, basically senior in football and senior and senior b in hurling
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on November 01, 2016, 06:38:23 PM
If Timahoe didn't enter a hurling team in 2017 anybody in Timahoe interested in hurling could "get permission" to hurl with any other HURLING ONLY club, such as Clonad, Ballypickas, Colt, Shanahoe, Slieve Margy etc! This would remove the necessity for a transfer and would require reapplication for "permission" each year.
The recipient club would not have to be senior, change their name, add Gaels or do anything at all except accept the players!
Clonad makes most sense really!

Obviously there are two sides to every story, but what is being presented here is that Timahoe club officials don't want hurling, but don't want their players going elsewhere!
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on November 01, 2016, 06:47:15 PM
As an isolated player is it Keyser? Would be the best option and would suit lads to go where they wish. Clonad the best option there if that's the case.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on November 01, 2016, 07:18:17 PM
As an isolated player is it Keyser? Would be the best option and would suit lads to go where they wish. Clonad the best option there if that's the case.

Ye as an isolated player. You are somewhat restricted in that it would be expected you would either go to the nearest available club or you would have some connection to the club you are otherwise looking to join.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on November 01, 2016, 07:28:39 PM
As an isolated player is it Keyser? Would be the best option and would suit lads to go where they wish. Clonad the best option there if that's the case.

Ye as an isolated player. You are somewhat restricted in that it would be expected you would either go to the nearest available club or you would have some connection to the club you are otherwise looking to join.
We'd have some lads that would have played minor and 21s in Clonad would be no family connections. Good few timahoe lads on team that beat a fancied Rathdowney Errill team with Clonad and Park Ratheniska. Nearest hurling only club to Timahoe is Clonad aswell so might suit us.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Downtheroad on November 02, 2016, 12:50:51 AM
Can only do it with senior teams or to enter a senior championship, basically senior in football and senior and senior b in hurling
Junior players can join with an intermediate team to form a gaels team. Rules changed a year ago. They can play in intermediate championship.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on November 02, 2016, 03:16:49 PM
Can only do it with senior teams or to enter a senior championship, basically senior in football and senior and senior b in hurling
Junior players can join with an intermediate team to form a gaels team. Rules changed a year ago. They can play in intermediate championship.

You sure about that? I understood they couldn't.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on November 02, 2016, 03:30:39 PM
I think it can happen. The rule says "A Player shall not lose his current Championship status by: (1) Playing in a Senior or Intermediate Championship on a Divisional or Group Senior or Intermediate team."

Can't see it happen at intermediate level in Laois football. Maybe it would work in the hurling?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on November 02, 2016, 03:37:10 PM
I think it can happen. The rule says "A Player shall not lose his current Championship status by: (1) Playing in a Senior or Intermediate Championship on a Divisional or Group Senior or Intermediate team."

Can't see it happen at intermediate level in Laois football. Maybe it would work in the hurling?

That's fairly clear then that it can happen.
I'd imagine that the CB would allow most combinations, particularly parish teams, so long as they don't alter the number of teams in the grade and thus mess up the "perfect" system we have going at all grades in hurling.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Ballyroan Abbey on November 16, 2016, 01:49:30 PM
So far ive heard daly from barrowhouse to joesphs or killen in the football and quinlan from kyle to borris/kilcotton and harnett from mountmellick to ballyfin in the hurling
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: High Fielder on November 16, 2016, 02:38:03 PM
You're the Jim White of Laois GAA Ballyroan. It would be sickening if Daly went to Josephs because Barrowhouse were blackguarded before. Also, Josephs rejected any senior tie up between the two clubs, so they have no right to go poaching. Can't see it anyway.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on November 16, 2016, 04:04:20 PM
You're the Jim White of Laois GAA Ballyroan. It would be sickening if Daly went to Josephs because Barrowhouse were blackguarded before. Also, Josephs rejected any senior tie up between the two clubs, so they have no right to go poaching. Can't see it anyway.
Have Joes started poaching....just wondering but have a look at a certain high profile BH players Facebook profile picture....is it poaching or the opposite of poaching
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: tcrilly on November 20, 2016, 08:52:54 PM
So far ive heard daly from barrowhouse to joesphs or killen in the football and quinlan from kyle to borris/kilcotton and harnett from mountmellick to ballyfin in the hurling

Yes Quinlan has been telling B/K that he is going to put in a transfer and rumor has it that Kyle are in deep trouble with numbers and geographically where they are they have nobody to join with, other small hurling clubs in laois like slieve bloom were damn near going under a few years ago and pulled it back and Ballinakill are punching above their weight at the moment too
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Ballyroan Abbey on November 20, 2016, 09:32:53 PM
So far ive heard daly from barrowhouse to joesphs or killen in the football and quinlan from kyle to borris/kilcotton and harnett from mountmellick to ballyfin in the hurling

Yes Quinlan has been telling B/K that he is going to put in a transfer and rumor has it that Kyle are in deep trouble with numbers and geographically where they are they have nobody to join with, other small hurling clubs in laois like slieve bloom were damn near going under a few years ago and pulled it back and Ballinakill are punching above their weight at the moment too

There is a few clubs that you would feel will struggle to keep going in the next few years, trumera, ballypickas, kyle in the hurling kilcavan arles kilcruise, arles killen in the football
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: tcrilly on November 20, 2016, 09:43:49 PM

There is a few clubs that you would feel will struggle to keep going in the next few years, trumera, ballypickas, kyle in the hurling kilcavan arles kilcruise, arles killen in the football
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Yeah I admire Trumera for what they have achieved in the last 20 years, there is only 40 houses in Trumera apparently, I know one or two of them lads and they have a lot of guys the wrong side of 35 now, As for football i would be the worst one to comment on it as I never go to football games, Annoughnough are struggling too as I was talking to one of their players in a taxi home from Kilkenny one night(Random encounters)lol
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on November 20, 2016, 10:13:26 PM
So far ive heard daly from barrowhouse to joesphs or killen in the football and quinlan from kyle to borris/kilcotton and harnett from mountmellick to ballyfin in the hurling

Yes Quinlan has been telling B/K that he is going to put in a transfer and rumor has it that Kyle are in deep trouble with numbers and geographically where they are they have nobody to join with, other small hurling clubs in laois like slieve bloom were damn near going under a few years ago and pulled it back and Ballinakill are punching above their weight at the moment too

There is a few clubs that you would feel will struggle to keep going in the next few years, trumera, ballypickas, kyle in the hurling kilcavan arles kilcruise, arles killen in the football

Think Kilcavan will be OK - a few good young lads coming through there in the next few years.
Killeen could be in real bother, they are a very ageing team.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Downtheroad on January 16, 2017, 12:34:23 AM
The link should dispel the annual JoL rumours for at least another year.

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=264985

Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on January 21, 2017, 06:36:40 PM
Any internal club transfers rumoured yet?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on January 27, 2017, 09:30:13 AM
Any internal club transfers rumoured yet?
Kilcotton man tells me this week that Conor Quinlan has put in a late transfer from ballaghmore and it's not expected to go down well
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Bueller on January 27, 2017, 09:59:34 AM
Any internal club transfers rumoured yet?
As explained before, there can be NO Laois transfers because of Portlaoise's actions and the rest of the sheep delegates carry on at the co convention. Laois has no transfer bye law, ergo, no transfers.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on January 27, 2017, 10:20:26 AM
Daily updated Transfer list from Croke Park

https://crokepark-my.sharepoint.com/personal/ruairi_harvey_gaa_ie/_layouts/15/WopiFrame.aspx?guestaccesstoken=Gc2myfwceMcTJO0Sm78dGMt4Up6MH9VlzlUxxsMV%2fgk%3d&docid=04bc452cba06b4bfea0d1ed80a2b5fac6&action=view
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on January 27, 2017, 01:00:17 PM
Daily updates from Leinster council
http://www.leinstergaa.ie/_fileupload/Transfer%20Schedule%202010-2017.pdf
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on January 27, 2017, 04:08:07 PM
Ben Conroy to Portlaoise was a rumour in work yesterday!
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on January 27, 2017, 05:46:53 PM
Daily updates from Leinster council
http://www.leinstergaa.ie/_fileupload/Transfer%20Schedule%202010-2017.pdf

Do they publish internal transfers on these sites? Don't think I've seen one ever in them spreadsheets online.

Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Pablo Escobar on January 27, 2017, 10:23:47 PM
Daily updates from Leinster council
http://www.leinstergaa.ie/_fileupload/Transfer%20Schedule%202010-2017.pdf

Do they publish internal transfers on these sites? Don't think I've seen one ever in them spreadsheets online.

No these are just inter county (club) transfers confined to Leinster while gaa.ie usually lists transfers from clubs in different provinces, America, Australasia, Asia etc. Laois gaa usually list internal transfers on their website/local media after the date has passed. I believe it is Tuesday . Could be totally wrong in this. Always have to question players attitudes when they are looking for internal transfers.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: TP Ashe on January 28, 2017, 01:00:40 AM
Ben Conroy to Portlaoise was a rumour in work yesterday!

Cheddar tried. No luck.

Feel bad for Kyle. They fought the fight for many years for players to be allowed stay with their home club and hurl senior as part of a group team...and now Borris/Kilcotton have no interest in risking a shot at a Leinster Championship to accomodate them so they're still fecked. Hard to see a future for them in Laois....

Quinlan's transfer will go through. Everyone knows it.
He'll only improve their Senior A team.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on January 28, 2017, 09:33:45 AM
Ben Conroy to Portlaoise was a rumour in work yesterday!

Cheddar tried. No luck.

Feel bad for Kyle. They fought the fight for many years for players to be allowed stay with their home club and hurl senior as part of a group team...and now Borris/Kilcotton have no interest in risking a shot at a Leinster Championship to accomodate them so they're still fecked. Hard to see a future for them in Laois....

Quinlan's transfer will go through. Everyone knows it.
He'll only improve their Senior A team.
They ALWAYS lose these battles do Kyle but when you get 4-5 lads turning up to training for Junior, what is there to keep an ambitious hurler, as for Conroy, I would question why he would want to leave Slieve Bloom as they are now a full intermediate outfit with plenty of young hurlers, Brendan Cummins, Shane McGrath, Nicky English are just some Tipp names I can think of that never played senior club hurling
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on January 28, 2017, 10:06:00 AM
I wonder what are the barriers in place to stop Kyle throwing in their lit with Knock and going to hurling in the mid in Tipp?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on January 28, 2017, 10:28:48 AM
I wonder what are the barriers in place to stop Kyle throwing in their lit with Knock and going to hurling in the mid in Tipp?
Kyle players want it as do Knock and last year the mid tipp board agreed that they could use kyle field for home games but kyle chiefs  went to meetings and very few players didnt turn up and the vote didnt go in favor because of the experts that know best
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on January 28, 2017, 10:48:08 AM
I wonder what are the barriers in place to stop Kyle throwing in their lit with Knock and going to hurling in the mid in Tipp?
Kyle players want it as do Knock and last year the mid tipp board agreed that they could use kyle field for home games but kyle chiefs  went to meetings and very few players didnt turn up and the vote didnt go in favor because of the experts that know best

Well in fairness if the players wanted it that bad,they didn't put in the groundwork to get it over the line,based on what your saying.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on January 28, 2017, 11:10:18 AM
I wonder what are the barriers in place to stop Kyle throwing in their lit with Knock and going to hurling in the mid in Tipp?
Kyle players want it as do Knock and last year the mid tipp board agreed that they could use kyle field for home games but kyle chiefs  went to meetings and very few players didnt turn up and the vote didnt go in favor because of the experts that know best

Well in fairness if the players wanted it that bad,they didn't put in the groundwork to get it over the line,based on what your saying.
Yes exactly 100%
the attitude of someone else will do it is what is holdig back small clubs and they play the victim too often, B/K didnt poach Quinlan, Camross didnt Poach Gilmartin, they simply wanted to push themselves among their peers because nobody turns up training at their home club
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: HURLING1 on January 28, 2017, 12:06:58 PM
Kyle have lost most of their best players through out the years as previous posters have said 4 or 5 at training.  No perfect answer but Kyle should have been proactive in fighting for some other solution rather than expanding all their energy fighting transfers.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on January 28, 2017, 03:35:19 PM
Kyle have lost most of their best players through out the years as previous posters have said 4 or 5 at training.  No perfect answer but Kyle should have been proactive in fighting for some other solution rather than expanding all their energy fighting transfers.
I totally agree, the way forward for rural clubs is to amalgamate and until lads get that into their head this trend will continue at a fast rate
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BlueAlways on January 28, 2017, 04:33:35 PM
Correct hurlingmad, amalgamation is the way forward not this whole "Gaels" scenario which is absolutely ridiculous and will not help develop hurling in the county in any way. Amalgamating the whole way from juvenile to senior (or whatever grade) can help young lads in the juvenile sides identify with the new club set up and help them to play hurling at a higher level than might ever have been possible with their own club, surely this can only be good. Realistically though there will always be people in those clubs who will object to it , you just have to hope that their are enough forward thinking people involved to be able to sit down with each other and come up with a solution that suits both clubs or whatever no. of clubs are involved.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on January 28, 2017, 05:13:14 PM
Correct hurlingmad, amalgamation is the way forward not this whole "Gaels" scenario which is absolutely ridiculous and will not help develop hurling in the county in any way. Amalgamating the whole way from juvenile to senior (or whatever grade) can help young lads in the juvenile sides identify with the new club set up and help them to play hurling at a higher level than might ever have been possible with their own club, surely this can only be good. Realistically though there will always be people in those clubs who will object to it , you just have to hope that their are enough forward thinking people involved to be able to sit down with each other and come up with a solution that suits both clubs or whatever no. of clubs are involved.
I mean these gaels type amalgamations are usually only used in other counties to accomadate Hurlers to senior football and vice versa
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on January 28, 2017, 05:27:58 PM
Kyle have lost most of their best players through out the years as previous posters have said 4 or 5 at training.  No perfect answer but Kyle should have been proactive in fighting for some other solution rather than expanding all their energy fighting transfers.
I totally agree, the way forward for rural clubs is to amalgamate and until lads get that into their head this trend will continue at a fast rate
The only way for SOME Clubs who are struggling. Please don't try lump all Clubs in with the ones who have 5 lads out Training. There's lads out there and here who'd have had the likes of Rosenallis and Killeshin lumped into amalgamations some 10 years ago.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on January 28, 2017, 06:18:56 PM
Kyle have lost most of their best players through out the years as previous posters have said 4 or 5 at training.  No perfect answer but Kyle should have been proactive in fighting for some other solution rather than expanding all their energy fighting transfers.
I totally agree, the way forward for rural clubs is to amalgamate and until lads get that into their head this trend will continue at a fast rate
The only way for SOME Clubs who are struggling. Please don't try lump all Clubs in with the ones who have 5 lads out Training. There's lads out there and here who'd have had the likes of Rosenallis and Killeshin lumped into amalgamations some 10 years ago.

Yes there are exceptions obviously, Rosenallis are a fine example of a club rebuilt, especially the state it was in after the collapse of tinnahinch
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: independent on January 30, 2017, 09:05:29 PM
When do transfers stop? is there a closing date?

Thanks
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on January 30, 2017, 09:53:59 PM
When do transfers stop? is there a closing date?

Thanks

End of January i think, and any time for inter county club as far as I know, but im not sure if the rule is as loose as that for inter county club transfers
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Downtheroad on January 31, 2017, 12:22:10 AM
When do transfers stop? is there a closing date?

Thanks

End of January i think, and any time for inter county club as far as I know, but im not sure if the rule is as loose as that for inter county club transfers
Inter county club transfers can happen anytime during year. I don't think a player can play championship for two clubs (excluding colleges and area teams) in the same year.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on January 31, 2017, 08:20:26 AM
How does it work with hurling and football? If a player plays in a competition and then transfers he is allowed finish out the competitions he started before the transfer. What if he played 1st round league and cship football with a club and then transferred. Could he play hurling league and championship with new club while also finishing league and cship football with previous club. Not sure who this would apply to but just curious if there is any rule against it?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on January 31, 2017, 08:57:29 AM
How does it work with hurling and football? If a player plays in a competition and then transfers he is allowed finish out the competitions he started before the transfer. What if he played 1st round league and cship football with a club and then transferred. Could he play hurling league and championship with new club while also finishing league and cship football with previous club. Not sure who this would apply to but just curious if there is any rule against it?

He can play league and championship for two different clubs at the same time, as was the case with Ballyea forward Niall Deasy who played a Munster final one week in 2016 and a Dublin league final the following for his other club. He transferred to Dublin, and then back before playing championship, but had played league and was eligible to continue playing in that competition.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on January 31, 2017, 09:22:07 AM
How does it work with hurling and football? If a player plays in a competition and then transfers he is allowed finish out the competitions he started before the transfer. What if he played 1st round league and cship football with a club and then transferred. Could he play hurling league and championship with new club while also finishing league and cship football with previous club. Not sure who this would apply to but just curious if there is any rule against it?

He can play league and championship for two different clubs at the same time, as was the case with Ballyea forward Niall Deasy who played a Munster final one week in 2016 and a Dublin league final the following for his other club. He transferred to Dublin, and then back before playing championship, but had played league and was eligible to continue playing in that competition.

I knew about Deasy but that doesnt really answer my question. If a player plays football league and cship in home county in April/May and then transfers to a hurling club in different county in june can he play league and cship hurling in new county and finish out football league and cship in previous club in home county?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BallyroanAbu on January 31, 2017, 10:40:59 AM
How does it work with hurling and football? If a player plays in a competition and then transfers he is allowed finish out the competitions he started before the transfer. What if he played 1st round league and cship football with a club and then transferred. Could he play hurling league and championship with new club while also finishing league and cship football with previous club. Not sure who this would apply to but just curious if there is any rule against it?

He can play league and championship for two different clubs at the same time, as was the case with Ballyea forward Niall Deasy who played a Munster final one week in 2016 and a Dublin league final the following for his other club. He transferred to Dublin, and then back before playing championship, but had played league and was eligible to continue playing in that competition.

The answer is no, if you play championship of any description in either code you cannot play with a second club in championship that year.   However should you play league or cup competition with another club you can play championship in the same year as they are not seen as been the same competition. Thus you can play league or Kelly cup in Laois and then go on and transfer and play championship hurling or football in another county.  However if you go and play championship junior c hurling in April you cannot play any level of championship Hurling or Football with another team in that year.  I am 100% of this rule in Ireland and UK
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on January 31, 2017, 11:14:53 AM
How does it work with hurling and football? If a player plays in a competition and then transfers he is allowed finish out the competitions he started before the transfer. What if he played 1st round league and cship football with a club and then transferred. Could he play hurling league and championship with new club while also finishing league and cship football with previous club. Not sure who this would apply to but just curious if there is any rule against it?

He can play league and championship for two different clubs at the same time, as was the case with Ballyea forward Niall Deasy who played a Munster final one week in 2016 and a Dublin league final the following for his other club. He transferred to Dublin, and then back before playing championship, but had played league and was eligible to continue playing in that competition.

The answer is no, if you play championship of any description in either code you cannot play with a second club in championship that year.   However should you play league or cup competition with another club you can play championship in the same year as they are not seen as been the same competition. Thus you can play league or Kelly cup in Laois and then go on and transfer and play championship hurling or football in another county.  However if you go and play championship junior c hurling in April you cannot play any level of championship Hurling or Football with another team in that year.  I am 100% of this rule in Ireland and UK
so johnny plays intermwdiate for say athy for talks sake and plays the league and pre season and can transfer to crettyard for example to pkay laois championship? No rules broken?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on January 31, 2017, 03:19:13 PM
How does it work with hurling and football? If a player plays in a competition and then transfers he is allowed finish out the competitions he started before the transfer. What if he played 1st round league and cship football with a club and then transferred. Could he play hurling league and championship with new club while also finishing league and cship football with previous club. Not sure who this would apply to but just curious if there is any rule against it?

He can play league and championship for two different clubs at the same time, as was the case with Ballyea forward Niall Deasy who played a Munster final one week in 2016 and a Dublin league final the following for his other club. He transferred to Dublin, and then back before playing championship, but had played league and was eligible to continue playing in that competition.

The answer is no, if you play championship of any description in either code you cannot play with a second club in championship that year.   However should you play league or cup competition with another club you can play championship in the same year as they are not seen as been the same competition. Thus you can play league or Kelly cup in Laois and then go on and transfer and play championship hurling or football in another county.  However if you go and play championship junior c hurling in April you cannot play any level of championship Hurling or Football with another team in that year.  I am 100% of this rule in Ireland and UK

You have explained that well in fairness.
However this means that under GAA rules senior hurling c'ship in Cork is the same competition as junior b football championship in Fermanagh when the 2 are in no way linked. The teams could never play each other.
In other games such as soccer or rugby you can be cup tied by playing in a competition with a club before joining a different club who compete in the same competition.
This makes sense as a player playing in the same competition for two clubs would skew results and therefore be unfair.
What is the GAA rationale for pretending  these competitions are linked in some way? Is it merely to keep players tied to one club for football and hurling.
If that is the case why can players play hurling and football for different clubs within a county?

On a related point, if you can only play c'ship in one county in one year then how can UCC and CIT students play Cork c'ship and c'ship in their home county in the same year?
What rule governs this?

GAA realy has some fascinatingly complicated rules.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Downtheroad on February 01, 2017, 12:21:52 PM
On the Leinster GAA website, I see James Hilliard (Mountmellick) is going to St Marcas. 
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on February 01, 2017, 12:24:16 PM
I'm away from the scene for a few weeks and am wondering if any transfers were granted. I know a few from junior clubs were looking to transfer to senior clubs.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Bueller on February 01, 2017, 12:30:19 PM
I'm away from the scene for a few weeks and am wondering if any transfers were granted. I know a few from junior clubs were looking to transfer to senior clubs.
Laois has no transfer by law. No internal transfer can be granted until the fudge by our executive at the co convention is corrected.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on February 01, 2017, 12:55:15 PM
I'm away from the scene for a few weeks and am wondering if any transfers were granted. I know a few from junior clubs were looking to transfer to senior clubs.
Laois has no transfer by law. No internal transfer can be granted until the fudge by our executive at the co convention is corrected.
I've seen you quote that a few times Bueller. Can you explain.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on February 01, 2017, 01:22:31 PM
Isnt there an embargo on all transfers within the County until the whole Rural to Urban Club (Portlaoise)issue is resolved?.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: les Antiques on February 01, 2017, 01:58:14 PM
Yes there is an embargo in place . However also included in the terms and conditions of this 'embargo are many loopholes that have been obviously targeted .
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Goku on February 01, 2017, 02:27:33 PM
Did the Transfer of Quinlan from Kyle to B/K go through after?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on February 01, 2017, 02:27:47 PM
Yes there is an embargo in place . However also included in the terms and conditions of this 'embargo are many loopholes that have been obviously targeted .

Will be interesting to see if any club or player will test said embargo
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Pablo Escobar on February 01, 2017, 03:46:37 PM
Did the Transfer of Quinlan from Kyle to B/K go through after?

Deadline has been extended until March apparently
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on February 01, 2017, 04:59:48 PM
Special Convention is scheduled for this evening, Wednesday, at 8pm sharp, with representation the same as County Committee at one person per Club. Motion for discussion has been already circulated. It is important to note that our Byelaws will not be approved at Central Council until we comply with DRA directive on our Transfer Byelaws, so if this motion is not passed, we must redraft and put before a further Special Convention. As a consequence no Transfers or Attachment to First Clubs will be dealt with until our Byelaws are approved by Central Council.


From the County Board in the last 2 hours
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on February 01, 2017, 06:07:41 PM
Did the Transfer of Quinlan from Kyle to B/K go through after?

Kyle denied his transfer along with Adrian Kelly who wants to go back to his home club in Ballinahinch in Tipperary which is quite bitter considering its his home club

Heard that from a member of B/K at work
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Downtheroad on February 01, 2017, 06:30:28 PM
I reckon meeting tonight will sort out byelaws. As regards home club, players can always go back to it. Don't think Kyle can stop that.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on February 01, 2017, 06:32:22 PM
Did the Transfer of Quinlan from Kyle to B/K go through after?

Kyle denied his transfer along with Adrian Kelly who wants to go back to his home club in Ballinahinch in Tipperary which is quite bitter considering its his home club

Heard that from a member of B/K at work

The word "denied" is misleading here. No club can "deny" any transfer. They can "object", the transfer then goes to a hearing involving the County Board, the player and both clubs involved in the transfer. If there is a case for the transfer (i.e. if it fits within the criteria for which transfers can be granted) then the "objection" will be thrown out.

As regards Kelly returning to his home club, there is no way to stop somebody returning to their "Home Club/First Club", and residency etc is not required. This is particularly the case when transferring between two different counties. This would be my reading of Rule 6.6 (B). On page 72 here (http://www.gaa.ie/mm/Document/TheGAA/RulesandRegulations/12/19/54/2015OfficialGuide-Part1_English.pdf)

Overall, Kyle have been "robbed" of many talented players through the years, going back as far as Kieran Carey in the 1950s. Other prominent out migrators include Arien Delaney and Darren Gilmartin.
Many clubs have a policy of objecting to all outward transfers. Sometimes players blink when faced with the prospect of a "hearing" and don't fancy the hassle. The player will often end up togging out for the team they wanted to leave a few months later. All is forgiven.
This policy of "objecting to all" also means nobody feels hard done by or personally targeted.

If Kyle operate this policy it is hard to blame them! Survival is at stake.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on February 01, 2017, 07:07:02 PM
Did the Transfer of Quinlan from Kyle to B/K go through after?

Kyle denied his transfer along with Adrian Kelly who wants to go back to his home club in Ballinahinch in Tipperary which is quite bitter considering its his home club

Heard that from a member of B/K at work

The word "denied" is misleading here. No club can "deny" any transfer. They can "object", the transfer then goes to a hearing involving the County Board, the player and both clubs involved in the transfer. If there is a case for the transfer (i.e. if it fits within the criteria for which transfers can be granted) then the "objection" will be thrown out.

As regards Kelly returning to his home club, there is no way to stop somebody returning to their "Home Club/First Club", and residency etc is not required. This is particularly the case when transferring between two different counties. This would be my reading of Rule 6.6 (B). On page 72 here (http://www.gaa.ie/mm/Document/TheGAA/RulesandRegulations/12/19/54/2015OfficialGuide-Part1_English.pdf)

Overall, Kyle have been "robbed" of many talented players through the years, going back as far as Kieran Carey in the 1950s. Other prominent out migrators include Arien Delaney and Darren Gilmartin.
Many clubs have a policy of objecting to all outward transfers. Sometimes players blink when faced with the prospect of a "hearing" and don't fancy the hassle. The player will often end up togging out for the team they wanted to leave a few months later. All is forgiven.
This policy of "objecting to all" also means nobody feels hard done by or personally targeted.

If Kyle operate this policy it is hard to blame them! Survival is at stake.

Okay then it went to vote and was objected to
They have had talented hurlers through the years there is no doubt about it but as someone above stated maybe it is time they spend tge time and energy they use objecting to transfers of lads who get cheesed off because nobody goes training and turns up to matches when it comes to championship and work on amalgamating to secure good training and a competitive team for every hurler
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: HURLING1 on February 01, 2017, 07:13:44 PM
Because Kyle object to all transfers very few ever return. The other half of the parish Knock allow their players transfer mostly to Roscrea to play Senior Hurling and most return and play for Knock for many years after .
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on February 01, 2017, 07:19:05 PM
Because Kyle object to all transfers very few ever return. The other half of the parish Knock allow their players transfer mostly to Roscrea to play Senior Hurling and most return and play for Knock for many years after .

Yes that is true, The Flynns, Joe Caroll and the davies and ryans have all pledged to return to knock by the time they are 30
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on February 01, 2017, 07:24:36 PM
HurlingMad and Hurling1 alot of yer posts concern Kyle, maybe ye should get together and come up with a proposal to show them the way! Should be easy organise a meet up  :D

There is no great work in "objecting" to any outward transfer and putting the onus on the player moving to provide a case as to why he should move.
I, for one, don't agree with the Knock method of allowing players to feck off and play with another club during their best days, and to be welcomed back with open arms after. That is not ok in my book. Being a feeder club for your bigger neighbour and welcoming back the scraps later on in their career.

Kyle play in Laois, there is nobody obvious for them to amalgamate with in Laois due to their location. Neither Camross nor Borris Kilcotton would entertain an "amalgamation". Why would they?
Moving counties is a massive decision and one that very few clubs would actually take. I don't think they should be castigated for not doing this.

Yes that is true, The Flynns, Joe Caroll and the davies and ryans have all pledged to return to knock by the time they are 30

That is nice of them!
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on February 01, 2017, 07:37:05 PM
HurlingMad and Hurling1 alot of yer posts concern Kyle, maybe ye should get together and come up with a proposal to show them the way! Should be easy organise a meet up  :D

There is no great work in "objecting" to any outward transfer and putting the onus on the player moving to provide a case as to why he should move.
I, for one, don't agree with the Knock method of allowing players to feck off and play with another club during their best days, and to be welcomed back with open arms after. That is not ok in my book. Being a feeder club for your bigger neighbour and welcoming back the scraps later on in their career.

Kyle play in Laois, there is nobody obvious for them to amalgamate with in Laois due to their location. Neither Camross nor Borris Kilcotton would entertain an "amalgamation". Why would they?
Moving counties is a massive decision and one that very few clubs would actually take. I don't think they should be castigated for not doing this.

Yes that is true, The Flynns, Joe Caroll and the davies and ryans have all pledged to return to knock by the time they are 30

That is nice of them!
I dont know where you get your keyboard agressivness from, but manners sure dont cost a lot, I however dont wish you any badness, God bless

A discussion about a known transfer on a club transfer forum that happens to be about Kyle. And if hurling1 and and Kyle lads would like to meet up, I will be in ianos friday having a nice cold pint if they would like to join me ;)
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: HURLING1 on February 01, 2017, 08:27:55 PM
Keyser we're not trying to tell ye how to run things in Kyle just to point out there are other ways. Fair play with your memory going back to Kieran Carey., one of the most decorated hurlers in the country.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on February 01, 2017, 08:36:17 PM
Keyser we're not trying to tell ye how to run things in Kyle just to point out there are other ways. Fair play with your memory going back to Kieran Carey., one of the most decorated hurlers in the country.
And hes son plays corner back for knock, he is dangerous on the field but literally a gentleman off it
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on February 02, 2017, 01:59:15 AM
HurlingMad and Hurling1 alot of yer posts concern Kyle, maybe ye should get together and come up with a proposal to show them the way! Should be easy organise a meet up  :D

There is no great work in "objecting" to any outward transfer and putting the onus on the player moving to provide a case as to why he should move.
I, for one, don't agree with the Knock method of allowing players to feck off and play with another club during their best days, and to be welcomed back with open arms after. That is not ok in my book. Being a feeder club for your bigger neighbour and welcoming back the scraps later on in their career.

Kyle play in Laois, there is nobody obvious for them to amalgamate with in Laois due to their location. Neither Camross nor Borris Kilcotton would entertain an "amalgamation". Why would they?
Moving counties is a massive decision and one that very few clubs would actually take. I don't think they should be castigated for not doing this.

Yes that is true, The Flynns, Joe Caroll and the davies and ryans have all pledged to return to knock by the time they are 30

That is nice of them!
I dont know where you get your keyboard agressivness from, but manners sure dont cost a lot, I however dont wish you any badness, God bless

A discussion about a known transfer on a club transfer forum that happens to be about Kyle. And if hurling1 and and Kyle lads would like to meet up, I will be in ianos friday having a nice cold pint if they would like to join me ;)

Point out the bad manners :o
And stop pretending to be two different posters ;D
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on February 02, 2017, 09:32:19 AM
Silly season for another few weeks if motion went through last night. Never seen as much talk of transfers and amalgamation lamas much as this year. Interesting weeks ahead.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on February 02, 2017, 12:30:53 PM
Silly season for another few weeks if motion went through last night. Never seen as much talk of transfers and amalgamation lamas much as this year. Interesting weeks ahead.
What motions are they putting through? What is it all about?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Ballyroan Abbey on February 21, 2017, 06:04:30 PM
http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/sport/236410/county-selector-allegedly-told-player-to-leave-club-to-remain-on-laois-panel.html

Hardly a shock but not right all the same
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on February 21, 2017, 07:29:53 PM
http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/sport/236410/county-selector-allegedly-told-player-to-leave-club-to-remain-on-laois-panel.html

Hardly a shock but not right all the same

Conor Quinlan was asked up to the Laois senior panel pre season and opted not to himself. This seems to be an autistic work of fiction by Mark Delaney
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on February 21, 2017, 09:27:09 PM

I see Adrian Kelly is gone back to home club in Tipp. On gaa transfers live list.

http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/sport/236410/county-selector-allegedly-told-player-to-leave-club-to-remain-on-laois-panel.html

Hardly a shock but not right all the same


Conor Quinlan was asked up to the Laois senior panel pre season and opted not to himself. This seems to be an autistic work of fiction by Mark Delaney

Scaremongering at its finest but haven't seen many intercounty lads at junior b level. I'm sure a few wise heads on this forum may tell me otherwise.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on February 21, 2017, 09:37:27 PM

I see Adrian Kelly is gone back to home club in Tipp. On gaa transfers live list.

http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/sport/236410/county-selector-allegedly-told-player-to-leave-club-to-remain-on-laois-panel.html

Hardly a shock but not right all the same


Conor Quinlan was asked up to the Laois senior panel pre season and opted not to himself. This seems to be an autistic work of fiction by Mark Delaney

Scaremongering at its finest but haven't seen many intercounty lads at junior b level. I'm sure a few wise heads on this forum may tell me otherwise.

Yes thats true, I dont know about junior b but was carrick riveratown junior a when ger oakley played for offaly?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on February 21, 2017, 09:46:56 PM
Ben Conroy Junior A
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on February 21, 2017, 09:55:54 PM
I know junior I was curious to see anyone below that.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: HURLING1 on February 21, 2017, 09:56:20 PM
I  think  Ben Conroy went in from a senior club to intercounty hurling.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: redsetanta on February 21, 2017, 10:00:08 PM
Maybe Slieve Margy will provide a hurler or two from the junior grade in a few years iff they stay going. Already providing hurlers to underage panels.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on February 21, 2017, 10:02:39 PM
Maybe Slieve Margy will provide a hurler or two from the junior grade in a few years iff they stay going. Already providing hurlers to underage panels.

The gaels route with ballinakill at senior is ideal to give the slieve Margy lads a chance. I really hope the club stays afloat in the long term and gets the right supports to sustain it!
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: HURLING1 on February 21, 2017, 10:10:45 PM
Brilliant opportunity for the Slieve Mary lads, massive step to Senior and would be great if one could make senior panel
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Ballyroan Abbey on February 21, 2017, 11:07:38 PM
Was
http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/sport/236410/county-selector-allegedly-told-player-to-leave-club-to-remain-on-laois-panel.html

Hardly a shock but not right all the same

Conor Quinlan was asked up to the Laois senior panel pre season and opted not to himself. This seems to be an autistic work of fiction by Mark Delaney

He was backed up by ballypickas as well to be fair, realistically if castletown and slieve bloom not joined would ben conroy have played senior, a lot of lads dont like the gales teams but it provides an oppurtunity for players from junior clubs, for instance donnacha harnett was one of the best players in senior b  last year, would not suprise me if a kevin bergin, an mj lalor or cillian mcevoy did likewise this year
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on February 21, 2017, 11:24:47 PM
http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/sport/236410/county-selector-allegedly-told-player-to-leave-club-to-remain-on-laois-panel.html

Hardly a shock but not right all the same

Conor Quinlan was asked up to the Laois senior panel pre season and opted not to himself. This seems to be an autistic work of fiction by Mark Delaney
Autistic?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on February 22, 2017, 10:45:19 AM
Was
http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/sport/236410/county-selector-allegedly-told-player-to-leave-club-to-remain-on-laois-panel.html

Hardly a shock but not right all the same

Conor Quinlan was asked up to the Laois senior panel pre season and opted not to himself. This seems to be an autistic work of fiction by Mark Delaney

He was backed up by ballypickas as well to be fair, realistically if castletown and slieve bloom not joined would ben conroy have played senior, a lot of lads dont like the gales teams but it provides an oppurtunity for players from junior clubs, for instance donnacha harnett was one of the best players in senior b  last year, would not suprise me if a kevin bergin, an mj lalor or cillian mcevoy did likewise this year

Those 3 you mentioned have senior B hurling this year. Whether they use it to their benefit is up to them. These gaels shouldn't just to please single players but as weaker clubs aswell and bring lads on collectively.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: honest hurler on February 22, 2017, 12:33:56 PM
what a shame we hear that slieve bloom did not go along with ballinakill in gaels it would benefit a lot of players ie conroy for county level gaels is the only way forward then keeping your own club a flot
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Ogie on February 22, 2017, 02:35:02 PM
I don't understand why Kyle are making such a fuss now, they have gone along before with Arien Delaney & Darren Gilmartin to Camross, James maher to Roscrea all of whom were there best hurlers at the time, & they benefit more than most with fella's from Roscrea, coolderry etc transferring into them.
At the end of the day it comes down to this young fella wanting to hurl at a higher level, with a team he's hurled with from u12 upwards, what will happen now is he won't hurl at all.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on February 22, 2017, 02:51:47 PM
Lads seem to have missed that he was referring to recent years. And its not to say he didn't bring it up before now, its merely being reported on now. The media don't go to every county board meeting, and after the last few days, I doubt they'll be let in to another one any time soon.

Kyle GAA delegate Mark Delaney informed the meeting that one of their players, who he did not name, was part of a Laois panel in recent years, when he was told by a selector he was "at nothing with a Junior 'B' club if he wanted to play for Laois."
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on February 22, 2017, 06:18:37 PM
I don't understand why Kyle are making such a fuss now, they have gone along before with Arien Delaney & Darren Gilmartin to Camross, James maher to Roscrea all of whom were there best hurlers at the time, & they benefit more than most with fella's from Roscrea, coolderry etc transferring into them.
At the end of the day it comes down to this young fella wanting to hurl at a higher level, with a team he's hurled with from u12 upwards, what will happen now is he won't hurl at all.

There was a time at least half of the team was from Roscrea. A policy of accept anyone but let nobody leave is not the way to do things.
I agree with a comment above that a gaels amalgamation shouldnt happen to please one player, They were joined with Trumera last year and threw a hissy fit when there wasnt enough kyle players playing even though 3-5 kyle lads was the maximum that ever bothered to turn up training, blamed Anthony Coffey for being a b@llix and now want some senior team to sacrifice the prestige of playing in the provincial championships for one player...yeah poor kyle
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Ballyroan Abbey on February 22, 2017, 06:28:20 PM
Do these gales teams generally train together the entire time or do they only get together occasionally or how do they work, ive heard that colt and clonad train seperately but shanahoe and ballypickas are training together
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on February 22, 2017, 07:49:40 PM
Shanahoe and ballypickas pooled resources together and have same trainer. Doubt it's the norm Clonad and colt train separately. Each club to their own I've no experience of gaels set ups.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on February 22, 2017, 10:40:18 PM
I don't understand why Kyle are making such a fuss now, they have gone along before with Arien Delaney & Darren Gilmartin to Camross, James maher to Roscrea all of whom were there best hurlers at the time, & they benefit more than most with fella's from Roscrea, coolderry etc transferring into them.
At the end of the day it comes down to this young fella wanting to hurl at a higher level, with a team he's hurled with from u12 upwards, what will happen now is he won't hurl at all.

There was a time at least half of the team was from Roscrea. A policy of accept anyone but let nobody leave is not the way to do things.
I agree with a comment above that a gaels amalgamation shouldnt happen to please one player, They were joined with Trumera last year and threw a hissy fit when there wasnt enough kyle players playing even though 3-5 kyle lads was the maximum that ever bothered to turn up training, blamed Anthony Coffey for being a b@llix and now want some senior team to sacrifice the prestige of playing in the provincial championships for one player...yeah poor kyle
Please explain your autistic comment from earlier.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on February 23, 2017, 12:24:21 AM
I don't blame Kyle for "requesting a hearing" regarding any transfers out.
If the players in question meet the criteria to get a transfer, they will get it whether Kyle "object" or not. If they don't, they won't.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on February 23, 2017, 08:34:20 AM
http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/sport/236410/county-selector-allegedly-told-player-to-leave-club-to-remain-on-laois-panel.html

Hardly a shock but not right all the same

Conor Quinlan was asked up to the Laois senior panel pre season and opted not to himself. This seems to be an autistic work of fiction by Mark Delaney
Autistic?
He might have meant artistic? Autocorrect? Typo?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on February 23, 2017, 08:53:49 AM
http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/sport/236410/county-selector-allegedly-told-player-to-leave-club-to-remain-on-laois-panel.html

Hardly a shock but not right all the same

Conor Quinlan was asked up to the Laois senior panel pre season and opted not to himself. This seems to be an autistic work of fiction by Mark Delaney
Autistic?
He might have meant artistic? Autocorrect? Typo?
It doesn't correct to or from artistic on my phone.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on February 23, 2017, 09:19:04 AM
Transfers Byelaws had been approved by National Byelaws Committee last Thursday and now required ratification by Central Council prior to Congress this weekend. In the event of these being ratified, all transfer applications will be circulated next Monday 27 Februaryand processed in accordance with Rule the following week.

Anyone know what the changes made were?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on February 23, 2017, 12:28:51 PM
http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/sport/236410/county-selector-allegedly-told-player-to-leave-club-to-remain-on-laois-panel.html

Hardly a shock but not right all the same

Conor Quinlan was asked up to the Laois senior panel pre season and opted not to himself. This seems to be an autistic work of fiction by Mark Delaney
Autistic?
He might have meant artistic? Autocorrect? Typo?
It doesn't correct to or from artistic on my phone.

Hi Don, sorry but i did mean artistic, nokia lumia is the phone i have and it auto corrects, i didnt proof read the comment and i also have a brother with autism  and merely meant ut was a created work of fiction. Apoligies for seeming to imply otherwise.

To stay on topic, Conor Quinlan was asked up to the Laois Seniors after his performances in the u21..he didnt go citing that he wasnt ready. Had mark delaneys allegstion been true he wouldnt of been asked.
Knowing Owen Coss he would not put tell a hurler from a small club to leave when they are struggling.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on February 23, 2017, 12:36:43 PM
Transfers Byelaws had been approved by National Byelaws Committee last Thursday and now required ratification by Central Council prior to Congress this weekend. In the event of these being ratified, all transfer applications will be circulated next Monday 27 Februaryand processed in accordance with Rule the following week.

Anyone know what the changes made were?

There'll be some craic next week in clubs around the county so.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on February 23, 2017, 12:37:49 PM
http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/sport/236410/county-selector-allegedly-told-player-to-leave-club-to-remain-on-laois-panel.html

Hardly a shock but not right all the same

Conor Quinlan was asked up to the Laois senior panel pre season and opted not to himself. This seems to be an autistic work of fiction by Mark Delaney
Autistic?
He might have meant artistic? Autocorrect? Typo?
It doesn't correct to or from artistic on my phone.

Hi Don, sorry but i did mean artistic, nokia lumia is the phone i have and it auto corrects, i didnt proof read the comment and i also have a brother with autism  and merely meant ut was a created work of fiction. Apoligies for seeming to imply otherwise.

To stay on topic, Conor Quinlan was asked up to the Laois Seniors after his performances in the u21..he didnt go citing that he wasnt ready. Had mark delaneys allegstion been true he wouldnt of been asked.
Knowing Owen Coss he would not put tell a hurler from a small club to leave when they are struggling.
I'll take you at your word.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on February 23, 2017, 01:43:00 PM
To stay on topic, Conor Quinlan was asked up to the Laois Seniors after his performances in the u21..he didnt go citing that he wasnt ready. Had mark delaneys allegstion been true he wouldnt of been asked.
Knowing Owen Coss he would not put tell a hurler from a small club to leave when they are struggling.

I don't think it was suggested that any of the current management made this remark? If I was to hazard a guess though, I'd say it came from a former U21 management member from a neighbouring club of Conors.
But let's be realistic, "tapping" up of players happens all over the place.

There are a number of vested interests here;

1) The County Board- who don't seem to want to get too involved. They need to tidy things up. Examples being the Portlaoise/DRA thing and also the Gaels amalgamations they allowed through. They have promised to do both.
I also note that they have pledged to help Kyle draft a motion to bring to congress next year that would allow these "Gaels" teams compete at provincial level. This won't be successful, and I don't think it should be. I'd be very sympathetic to the likes of Kyle, BUT, while this change might suit clubs like Kyle it would seriously compromise the integrity of the club championships.

2) The smaller clubs around the county. These are entitled to continue as separate entities for as long as they wish to. They are also entitled to question any proposed outward transfers. Why wouldn't they. They have a duty to their own club first, not to strengthen their more illustrious neighbours.

3) The bigger clubs around the county. These clubs are entitled to want the shot at provincial championship glory should they win a county final. They are also more than entitled to accept players who wish to transfer in.

4) The juvenile situation.......To repeat myself, being allowed to hop into bed with whoever you want at the various age grades is not what the GAA is based upon. It creates unfair advantages and also threatens the long term viability of individual club units.

To sort out some of the mess, some of the following;

1) Clamp down and introduce stricter guidelines for juvenile join ups. All in at every grade OR in exceptional circumstances join at a one off grade with a club from the same catchment area/locality. I travelling across clubs to join with another club, you should need to provide proof that each of the clubs you crossed over rejected your approach. Obviously this would need to be tidier.
The objective should be to get the optimum number of juvenile units, functioning as strong "clubs", not a strong "team" simply because you cobbled together the best of 3/4 clubs. 
There is no future in the strong "team" approach", strong "clubs" are what's needed.

2) When the juvenile system above is up and running, the CB should be active in going out and meeting the adult clubs involved in these juvenile amalgams. Have frank and open discussions with them, outlining possible options as regards a similar arrangement at adult level.

Nobody is forcing anyone to join up at adult level. But there should be a "gentle forcing" of this at juvenile level. Based around the basic idea of (whisper it) what we used to call "parish". It doesn't have to be (whisper it) restricted to parish. But it should be "geographically logical" and "numerically logical".

If we managed to reach a situation where there were long term stable units at juvenile level, we'd be along the way to the same at adult level.

On the hurling side of things there are some very stable juvenile arrangements;

1) Borris Kilcotton
2) Rathdowney Errill
3) Castletown Slieve Bloom
4) Rosenallis
5) The Harps
6) Portlaoise
7) Abbeyleix
Hopefully now Raheen Parish Gaels join them there- St Fintan's would have been on that list.
There are probably more than the above also.

Then there are a few that are mostly stable!
8 ) Clough Ballacolla
9) Camross
8&9 here have been known to jump in with neighbours- see the bedhoppers below.

Then there are those striving for stability like
10) Ballinakill.

Then you have the bedhoppers-
11) Mountrath
12) Ballyfin
13) Clonaslee
14) Mountmellick
15) Park Ratheniska

8,9 and 10 above would/will join the 1-7 easily enough.
11-15 need to be coaxed into deciding they have the numbers to go it alone, or else commit to somebody.
Ballypickas, Kyle and Trumera are probably going to find it difficult to find anyone to accommodate them on equal terms.

Bit of a ramble, but until the juvenile end of things is given more stability, the adult end of things will never have it, and contentious transfers will always be on the agenda.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on February 23, 2017, 02:26:52 PM
To stay on topic, Conor Quinlan was asked up to the Laois Seniors after his performances in the u21..he didnt go citing that he wasnt ready. Had mark delaneys allegstion been true he wouldnt of been asked.
Knowing Owen Coss he would not put tell a hurler from a small club to leave when they are struggling.

I don't think it was suggested that any of the current management made this remark? If I was to hazard a guess though, I'd say it came from a former U21 management member from a neighbouring club of Conors.
But let's be realistic, "tapping" up of players happens all over the place.

There are a number of vested interests here;

1) The County Board- who don't seem to want to get too involved. They need to tidy things up. Examples being the Portlaoise/DRA thing and also the Gaels amalgamations they allowed through. They have promised to do both.
I also note that they have pledged to help Kyle draft a motion to bring to congress next year that would allow these "Gaels" teams compete at provincial level. This won't be successful, and I don't think it should be. I'd be very sympathetic to the likes of Kyle, BUT, while this change might suit clubs like Kyle it would seriously compromise the integrity of the club championships.

2) The smaller clubs around the county. These are entitled to continue as separate entities for as long as they wish to. They are also entitled to question any proposed outward transfers. Why wouldn't they. They have a duty to their own club first, not to strengthen their more illustrious neighbours.

3) The bigger clubs around the county. These clubs are entitled to want the shot at provincial championship glory should they win a county final. They are also more than entitled to accept players who wish to transfer in.

4) The juvenile situation.......To repeat myself, being allowed to hop into bed with whoever you want at the various age grades is not what the GAA is based upon. It creates unfair advantages and also threatens the long term viability of individual club units.

To sort out some of the mess, some of the following;

1) Clamp down and introduce stricter guidelines for juvenile join ups. All in at every grade OR in exceptional circumstances join at a one off grade with a club from the same catchment area/locality. I travelling across clubs to join with another club, you should need to provide proof that each of the clubs you crossed over rejected your approach. Obviously this would need to be tidier.
The objective should be to get the optimum number of juvenile units, functioning as strong "clubs", not a strong "team" simply because you cobbled together the best of 3/4 clubs. 
There is no future in the strong "team" approach", strong "clubs" are what's needed.

2) When the juvenile system above is up and running, the CB should be active in going out and meeting the adult clubs involved in these juvenile amalgams. Have frank and open discussions with them, outlining possible options as regards a similar arrangement at adult level.

Nobody is forcing anyone to join up at adult level. But there should be a "gentle forcing" of this at juvenile level. Based around the basic idea of (whisper it) what we used to call "parish". It doesn't have to be (whisper it) restricted to parish. But it should be "geographically logical" and "numerically logical".

If we managed to reach a situation where there were long term stable units at juvenile level, we'd be along the way to the same at adult level.

On the hurling side of things there are some very stable juvenile arrangements;

1) Borris Kilcotton
2) Rathdowney Errill
3) Castletown Slieve Bloom
4) Rosenallis
5) The Harps
6) Portlaoise
7) Abbeyleix
Hopefully now Raheen Parish Gaels join them there- St Fintan's would have been on that list.
There are probably more than the above also.

Then there are a few that are mostly stable!
8 ) Clough Ballacolla
9) Camross
8&9 here have been known to jump in with neighbours- see the bedhoppers below.

Then there are those striving for stability like
10) Ballinakill.

Then you have the bedhoppers-
11) Mountrath
12) Ballyfin
13) Clonaslee
14) Mountmellick
15) Park Ratheniska

8,9 and 10 above would/will join the 1-7 easily enough.
11-15 need to be coaxed into deciding they have the numbers to go it alone, or else commit to somebody.
Ballypickas, Kyle and Trumera are probably going to find it difficult to find anyone to accommodate them on equal terms.

Bit of a ramble, but until the juvenile end of things is given more stability, the adult end of things will never have it, and contentious transfers will always be on the agenda.

For i am only guessing myself and id like to rectify that i dont know who allegedly said what either and i agree with every other word about stability instead of these short marriges
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on February 23, 2017, 03:00:47 PM
From last nights CB meeting

All Underage Independent Teams and Amalgamations were approved for 2017, although two different concerns were raised insofar as Portarlington delegate believed where Clubs enter into Independent Team alliances that they should commit to this alliance from U12 to 21, whereas Camross delegate wondered the long term values of Independent Teams and should new competition formats and structures be explored with 11 and 13 a side competitions with a view to all Clubs fielding independently in competitions.  Debate ensued on the merits of both suggestions, with population decline in several of our rural clubs dictating  what they affiliate.

Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on February 28, 2017, 12:06:26 PM
Big transfer in Portlaoise: Manhatten mixer has left the Blue door (old Egan's) to move to coppers. Happy Tuesday  ;D
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: border on February 28, 2017, 12:55:35 PM
Did anyone hear anything from the transfers last night if they went through.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on February 28, 2017, 01:05:59 PM
Did anyone hear anything from the transfers last night if they went through.

Surely have tonne distributed to clubs to either accept or object first?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on February 28, 2017, 06:12:58 PM
Did anyone hear anything from the transfers last night if they went through.
Heard nothing more than a rumor and i have to stress that it mightnt/probably isnt true but heard that Ben Conroy is looking to go to portlaoise and the club are giving him the relevelant documents like address etc...
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Ballyroan Abbey on February 28, 2017, 06:20:22 PM
Did anyone hear anything from the transfers last night if they went through.
Heard nothing more than a rumor and i have to stress that it mightnt/probably isnt true but heard that Ben Conroy is looking to go to portlaoise and the club are giving him the relevelant documents like address etc...


Heard this a few weeks ago myself
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on February 28, 2017, 06:25:14 PM
Did anyone hear anything from the transfers last night if they went through.
Heard nothing more than a rumor and i have to stress that it mightnt/probably isnt true but heard that Ben Conroy is looking to go to portlaoise and the club are giving him the relevelant documents like address etc...


Heard this a few weeks ago myself

Very bad form if there is any truth to it, hopefully not
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on February 28, 2017, 07:54:12 PM
Did anyone hear anything from the transfers last night if they went through.
Heard nothing more than a rumor and i have to stress that it mightnt/probably isnt true but heard that Ben Conroy is looking to go to portlaoise and the club are giving him the relevelant documents like address etc...


Heard this a few weeks ago myself

Very bad form if there is any truth to it, hopefully not

I could have picked you up wrong, but were you not complaining about Kyle objecting to transfer/standing in the way of players moving? And praising the approach that Knock took in allowing players to leave?
I'd be interested to know what you see different about this potential move?

I'm not defending or attacking Kyle, Slieve Bloom, Knock or Portlaoise here- just wondering. Maybe I have picked you up wrong.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on February 28, 2017, 08:05:22 PM
Did anyone hear anything from the transfers last night if they went through.
Heard nothing more than a rumor and i have to stress that it mightnt/probably isnt true but heard that Ben Conroy is looking to go to portlaoise and the club are giving him the relevelant documents like address etc...


Heard this a few weeks ago myself

Very bad form if there is any truth to it, hopefully not

I could have picked you up wrong, but were you not complaining about Kyle objecting to transfer/standing in the way of players moving? And praising the approach that Knock took in allowing players to leave?
I'd be interested to know what you see different about this potential move?

I'm not defending or attacking Kyle, Slieve Bloom, Knock or Portlaoise here- just wondering. Maybe I have picked you up wrong.

No im not attacking slieve bloom at all, I just heard the usual lark that its a so called dirty transfer with the old esb bill trick. Now as I stated i cannot say there is any truth to it. I dont believe it is the way to go about a transfer especially to a bigger club within your own county. Unless portlaoise did a gaels amalgamation that I didnt hear or read about which i doubt

Id also like to add from a personal point of view as a complete neutral, I cannot understand a player wanting to leave to play senior club hurling when they already play with the county and soon to be intermediate with their club but im not ben conroy or conor quinlan
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on February 28, 2017, 08:11:07 PM
Did anyone hear anything from the transfers last night if they went through.
Heard nothing more than a rumor and i have to stress that it mightnt/probably isnt true but heard that Ben Conroy is looking to go to portlaoise and the club are giving him the relevelant documents like address etc...


Heard this a few weeks ago myself

Very bad form if there is any truth to it, hopefully not

I could have picked you up wrong, but were you not complaining about Kyle objecting to transfer/standing in the way of players moving? And praising the approach that Knock took in allowing players to leave?
I'd be interested to know what you see different about this potential move?

I'm not defending or attacking Kyle, Slieve Bloom, Knock or Portlaoise here- just wondering. Maybe I have picked you up wrong.

No im not attacking slieve bloom at all, I just heard the usual lark that its a so called dirty transfer with the old esb bill trick. Now as I stated i cannot say there is any truth to it. I dont believe it is the way to go about a transfer especially to a bigger club within your own county. Unless portlaoise did a gaels amalgamation that I didnt hear or read about which i doubt

Id also like to add from a personal point of view as a complete neutral, I cannot understand a player wanting to leave to play senior club hurling when they already play with the county and soon to be intermediate with their club but im not ben conroy or conor quinlan

Fair enough, I had interpreted your previous posts as saying that Kyle should allow their better players to leave in order to better themselves, like you or another posted described Knock doing for their players.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on February 28, 2017, 08:17:47 PM
Did anyone hear anything from the transfers last night if they went through.
Heard nothing more than a rumor and i have to stress that it mightnt/probably isnt true but heard that Ben Conroy is looking to go to portlaoise and the club are giving him the relevelant documents like address etc...


Heard this a few weeks ago myself

Very bad form if there is any truth to it, hopefully not

I could have picked you up wrong, but were you not complaining about Kyle objecting to transfer/standing in the way of players moving? And praising the approach that Knock took in allowing players to leave?
I'd be interested to know what you see different about this potential move?

I'm not defending or attacking Kyle, Slieve Bloom, Knock or Portlaoise here- just wondering. Maybe I have picked you up wrong.

No im not attacking slieve bloom at all, I just heard the usual lark that its a so called dirty transfer with the old esb bill trick. Now as I stated i cannot say there is any truth to it. I dont believe it is the way to go about a transfer especially to a bigger club within your own county. Unless portlaoise did a gaels amalgamation that I didnt hear or read about which i doubt

Id also like to add from a personal point of view as a complete neutral, I cannot understand a player wanting to leave to play senior club hurling when they already play with the county and soon to be intermediate with their club but im not ben conroy or conor quinlan

Fair enough, I had interpreted your previous posts as saying that Kyle should allow their better players to leave in order to better themselves, like you or another posted described Knock doing for their players.

I may come across as a bit militant at times but im actually a nice guy 😜 but the real issue i had with kyle is they had the senior b amalgamation with trumera albiet not ideal logistically they didnt give it a chance in a nutshell thats my issue with kyle but otherwise would like to see them survive as it is a lovely little place and thriving community which is vital that a hurling club exists
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: honest hurler on February 28, 2017, 08:51:34 PM
I think hurling mad it's people like you that spreads bad shit like this it is true that Conroy is looking to go to portlaoise but what you said about portlaoise giving him anything is not true I have it from very good contact that he wanted to play senior hurling and Castletown refused their requests so the only club to offer him that was ballinkill then slieve bloom refused to sign even though they led. Ballinkill on they say that they never wanted to let him play senior what a pity as he loved his club and could play both it is all political I'm told and talking to my contact it might mean the slow down of that club considering they never had a county player before
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on February 28, 2017, 09:20:31 PM
I think hurling mad it's people like you that spreads bad shit like this it is true that Conroy is looking to go to portlaoise but what you said about portlaoise giving him anything is not true I have it from very good contact that he wanted to play senior hurling and Castletown refused their requests so the only club to offer him that was ballinkill then slieve bloom refused to sign even though they led. Ballinkill on they say that they never wanted to let him play senior what a pity as he loved his club and could play both it is all political I'm told and talking to my contact it might mean the slow down of that club considering they never had a county player before

I simply stressed the fact that i couldnt place truth to it, not spreadig rumor as fact at all.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Bueller on February 28, 2017, 10:36:22 PM
Portlaoise poaching another player. The gloves are off in the town. I wonder will they take this one to the DRA. Disappointed in cheddar. For shame.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on February 28, 2017, 11:10:44 PM
I think hurling mad it's people like you that spreads bad shit like this it is true that Conroy is looking to go to portlaoise but what you said about portlaoise giving him anything is not true I have it from very good contact that he wanted to play senior hurling and Castletown refused their requests so the only club to offer him that was ballinkill then slieve bloom refused to sign even though they led. Ballinkill on they say that they never wanted to let him play senior what a pity as he loved his club and could play both it is all political I'm told and talking to my contact it might mean the slow down of that club considering they never had a county player before

I presume Ballinakill were offering Senior hurling to all Slieve Bloom players? Or was it just Ben Conroy?
Funny wording you chose!

And you do realise that you have listed Slieve Bloom as your club on your profile here?!
I'd say your contact is pretty good alright!
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Unlaoised on March 01, 2017, 12:49:25 PM
Portlaoise poaching another player. The gloves are off in the town. I wonder will they take this one to the DRA. Disappointed in cheddar. For shame.

Who did they poach?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: honest hurler on March 01, 2017, 01:02:13 PM
as i have said conroy was not the only player that ballinkill wanted they were looking for a complete gaels all players i am told and neutral gerseys they were giving just slieve bloom were afraid of the offer it might spark off a problem with castletown whom i hear now could not care less also i am told that the slieve bloom chairman wanted to contact his county board delegate at the county board meeting to confirm the gaels with ballinakill but he refused to accept his call so whats going on just facts from a very good friend within
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on March 01, 2017, 01:15:39 PM
as i have said conroy was not the only player that ballinkill wanted they were looking for a complete gaels all players i am told and neutral gerseys they were giving just slieve bloom were afraid of the offer it might spark off a problem with castletown whom i hear now could not care less also i am told that the slieve bloom chairman wanted to contact his county board delegate at the county board meeting to confirm the gaels with ballinakill but he refused to accept his call so whats going on just facts from a very good friend within
Well I'm dizzy after reading that.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: honest hurler on March 01, 2017, 01:44:24 PM
Well don we should always try to tell tell the truth on this site and what I have said is the truth within slieve bloom all the players wanted was a chance to play senior hurling and stay with their club I would say to people to try and get the facts before putting pen to paper these are truth from my contact within
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on March 01, 2017, 01:59:47 PM
Well don we should always try to tell tell the truth on this site and what I have said is the truth within slieve bloom all the players wanted was a chance to play senior hurling and stay with their club I would say to people to try and get the facts before putting pen to paper these are truth from my contact within
"Your contact". Straight away, you're basing everything on second hand information.

Give over will you.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: burdizzo on March 01, 2017, 02:12:53 PM
If Slieve Bloom put their mind to it, they'd nearly win the Intermediate, and they'd get all the 'senior' hurling they wanted then.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on March 01, 2017, 02:37:59 PM
If Slieve Bloom put their mind to it, they'd nearly win the Intermediate, and they'd get all the 'senior' hurling they wanted then.
if they had he who shall not be named they could certainly give it a go, ballacolla to take up where they left off for me though, rosenallis were way too strong for that grade
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: HURLING1 on March 01, 2017, 03:33:38 PM
In Kerry all players have access to Senior football,without transferring from their home clubs. We need similar access in 5 his county.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Ballyroan Abbey on March 01, 2017, 03:39:51 PM
Regardless of weather they have the conroys or not (i heard the brother also wants to go) i doubt they would win inter, while they won the championship handy enough they were very lucky to beat a ballypickas team reliant on a few players in the league final, and were well bet the year before by ballacolla. Having said that its a very open championship so you never know
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: honest hurler on March 01, 2017, 04:33:45 PM
JUST in reply to you Don my facts are very true and if you ever want to meet up then you will clearly see O
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on March 01, 2017, 05:00:23 PM
My "contacts" tell me that ye were playing Ballinakill and Castletown off each other and ended up with neither!

You'd need to be very well connected to know all of the following!

1) How Slieve Bloom club dealt with it
2) What all of the players within Slieve Bloom wanted
3) The phone habits of the Slieve Bloom Chairman and Delegate
4) What exactly Ballinakill were "offering"
5) How Castletown feel about the whole thing!

Reports here and elsewhere of funny goings on at the CB meeting dealing with Gaels teams, where the Slieve Bloom and Ballinakill Delegates clashed as regards what was/wasn't agreed to!
I happened to be at the CB meeting 2/3 years ago when there was confusion over whether Slieve Bloom and Castletown were still together or separating! In the end the meeting agreed to give them more time to sort it out!

The incident I witnessed was comical! The more recent one sounds just as bad!
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: TheGiantSquid on March 01, 2017, 05:32:55 PM
I imagine Cheddar will force the Ben Conroy transfer through by saying he is living in Portlaoise. Other transfers put forward are: Kevin Bergin from Clonad to Colt, Conor Quinlan from Kyle to B/K,Martin Scully from B/pickas to Abbeyleix, Rob Foyle from Timahoe to B/kill.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on March 01, 2017, 05:39:12 PM
Kevin Bergin one rejected, the foyle one withdrawn and as far as I know heard scully going to Australia.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on March 01, 2017, 05:44:54 PM
I imagine Cheddar will force the Ben Conroy transfer through by saying he is living in Portlaoise. Other transfers put forward are: Kevin Bergin from Clonad to Colt, Conor Quinlan from Kyle to B/K,Martin Scully from B/pickas to Abbeyleix, Rob Foyle from Timahoe to B/kill.

That would have been mad! Considering they were playing together as a Gaels team!
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on March 01, 2017, 07:45:24 PM
I imagine Cheddar will force the Ben Conroy transfer through by saying he is living in Portlaoise. Other transfers put forward are: Kevin Bergin from Clonad to Colt, Conor Quinlan from Kyle to B/K,Martin Scully from B/pickas to Abbeyleix, Rob Foyle from Timahoe to B/kill.

That would have been mad! Considering they were playing together as a Gaels team!
Interesting that it was put forward in the first place mind you
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: TP Ashe on March 01, 2017, 08:13:51 PM
I don't know how the Kevin Bergin transfer request could be refused seeing as they won't be adjudicated on until next Monday. Clubs had until today to lodge formal, written objections.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on March 01, 2017, 08:15:04 PM
I don't know how the Kevin Bergin transfer request could be refused seeing as they won't be adjudicated on until next Monday. Clubs had until today to lodge formal, written objections.

Sorry objection I meant
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Ogie on March 07, 2017, 09:38:48 AM
Transfer decisions due to be emailed out to clubs this morning.

Final hearings last night, the Slieve bloom player to Portlaoise move looks to be getting the green light after a Portlaoise address was produced!!!
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Downtheroad on March 07, 2017, 11:52:51 AM
Slieve Bloom transfer to Portlaoise was refused
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on March 07, 2017, 12:02:47 PM
Barrowhouse to St Josephs refused also.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Unlaoised on March 07, 2017, 12:31:07 PM
Slieve Bloom transfer to Portlaoise was refused

Only right!
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: High Fielder on March 07, 2017, 01:43:56 PM
What is the criteria for refusing a transfer?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on March 07, 2017, 02:04:08 PM
What is the criteria for refusing a transfer?
Depends on the reason for requesting the transfer.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: border on March 07, 2017, 03:30:15 PM
Conor Quinlan's transfer turned down as well I hear.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on March 07, 2017, 05:15:34 PM
So what happens next so if a person doesn't hurl with club for a year? Are they granted a transfer or just tied down unless an intercounty transfer. There was about 4-5 Kyle transfer requests (not sure if underage players). Hopefully Kyle can stay afloat.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Downtheroad on March 07, 2017, 05:19:42 PM
What is the criteria for refusing a transfer?
Depends on the reason for requesting the transfer.
There is a bit of a black art associated with transfers up and down the country and Laois is no different.  Normally within the county the Co Board favours the current club which is understandable but that's not always the case as happened with a few high profile requests down Arles way a few years back. I note Kevin Bergin did not get his transfer either. The Daly request from Barrowhouse to St Josephs was also turned down.  All of this fine provided that the Co Board are consistent in their approach. 
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: honest hurler on March 07, 2017, 05:22:06 PM
i suppose we all blame the player for moving camp but really you would want to know the reason behind a player like quinlan and conroy moving from i suppose the clubs they looked up to from under age there is no winners in this
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on March 07, 2017, 05:26:05 PM
Interesting to turn down transfers IF an address was produced and proof of residence there (whether real or not!). I can't see how you can be stopped from moving to hurl with the club where you reside!
Not saying I agree with these or any transfers internally, especially in a small county like Laois where distance is rarely an issue.

Also the "standing down for one year" is a myth. Your club is your club and remains so until such time as you are granted a transfer.
You can transfer out of the county easily enough.
But if you wish to return to that county within 2 years you must go back to the club you came from!
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Pablo Escobar on March 07, 2017, 06:07:27 PM
Interesting to turn down transfers IF an address was produced and proof of residence there (whether real or not!). I can't see how you can be stopped from moving to hurl with the club where you reside!
Not saying I agree with these or any transfers internally, especially in a small county like Laois where distance is rarely an issue.

Also the "standing down for one year" is a myth. Your club is your club and remains so until such time as you are granted a transfer.
You can transfer out of the county easily enough.
But if you wish to return to that county within 2 years you must go back to the club you came from!

Lower Ballyadams is a lovely spot I hear
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Ballyroan Abbey on March 07, 2017, 06:14:24 PM
Martin Scullys was also refused i hear
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on March 07, 2017, 06:55:32 PM
Interesting to turn down transfers IF an address was produced and proof of residence there (whether real or not!). I can't see how you can be stopped from moving to hurl with the club where you reside!
Not saying I agree with these or any transfers internally, especially in a small county like Laois where distance is rarely an issue.

Also the "standing down for one year" is a myth. Your club is your club and remains so until such time as you are granted a transfer.
You can transfer out of the county easily enough.
But if you wish to return to that county within 2 years you must go back to the club you came from!

Lower Ballyadams is a lovely spot I hear

No idea what this means!
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on March 07, 2017, 07:03:26 PM
Interesting to turn down transfers IF an address was produced and proof of residence there (whether real or not!). I can't see how you can be stopped from moving to hurl with the club where you reside!
Not saying I agree with these or any transfers internally, especially in a small county like Laois where distance is rarely an issue.

Also the "standing down for one year" is a myth. Your club is your club and remains so until such time as you are granted a transfer.
You can transfer out of the county easily enough.
But if you wish to return to that county within 2 years you must go back to the club you came from!

Lower Ballyadams is a lovely spot I hear


No idea what this means!

It's the address used by Daly to try get his transfer to Josephs. Bad form of Josephs.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: HURLING1 on March 07, 2017, 07:06:48 PM
No winners, players, clubs or County. I sometimes think this club championship is more trouble than its worth
.If it didn't exist and we allowed  the single player rule to neighbouring senior club and also be able to play for your own club would be great for all involved.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on March 07, 2017, 07:14:38 PM
Very strong stance refusing Conroys transfer as usually from what i understood is that transfers arent refused if you are living in the catchment area like *ahem* Darren Gilmartin living and working in Camross. That transfer was granted based on the "proof" he provided after Kyle objected to his transfer
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on March 07, 2017, 07:15:45 PM
Be interesting too see what Conroy and Slieve Bloom's next move is?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on March 07, 2017, 07:25:18 PM
So what happens next so if a person doesn't hurl with club for a year? Are they granted a transfer or just tied down unless an intercounty transfer. There was about 4-5 Kyle transfer requests (not sure if underage players). Hopefully Kyle can stay afloat.

The Sheppard chaps play and always did underage with b/k and apparently are desperate to play with b/k with no intention of playing for Kyle at adult level according to their mam who is a lovely woman  and their transfers were refused last year too
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: HURLING1 on March 07, 2017, 07:35:33 PM
I suppose from a county board point of view Gilmartin played all his juvenile hurling with Camross so different from the Conroy situation. Also I hear he didn't name his Portlaoise address as his full time abode.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on March 07, 2017, 07:37:01 PM
Be interesting too see what Conroy and Slieve Bloom's next move is?
It sure will, this is unusual to me as you said in an earlier post that a transfer as we know it cant be refused if the player is residing in the area where he wishes to transfer.. there must of been some arguement by slieve bloom as they arent short numbers unlike kyle and conor quinlan who put down his home address with reason for transfer to just simply play senior hurling
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on March 07, 2017, 08:16:15 PM
I suppose from a county board point of view Gilmartin played all his juvenile hurling with Camross so different from the Conroy situation. Also I hear he didn't name his Portlaoise address as his full time abode.

Conroy did gave a portlaoise address
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Ballygowen on March 07, 2017, 09:14:30 PM
was there any internal transfer granted or were they all turned down?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: High Fielder on March 07, 2017, 09:44:46 PM
The whole process is a joke really. Based on some of the transfers granted before, you'd wonder how ANY transfer could be turned down in Laois. Like most things, you need pull it seems
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: honest hurler on March 07, 2017, 09:50:06 PM
from what i hear slieve bloom have lost not one great but 3 and its devestating to a small club but bear in mind slieve bloom could have avoided this by accepting the gaels two months ago i am told it was never going to be on only at the last minute when the horse has bolted i aggree with mountrath 1 this fiasco should never have happened but i also aggree that these intercounty players should be accomadated and keep the small club alive
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on March 07, 2017, 10:05:17 PM
from what i hear slieve bloom have lost not one great but 3 and its devestating to a small club but bear in mind slieve bloom could have avoided this by accepting the gaels two months ago i am told it was never going to be on only at the last minute when the horse has bolted i aggree with mountrath 1 this fiasco should never have happened but i also aggree that these intercounty players should be accomadated and keep the small club alive
The 3 conroys i presume? Heard that daddy went and threw his toys out of the pram
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on March 07, 2017, 10:10:13 PM
from what i hear slieve bloom have lost not one great but 3 and its devestating to a small club but bear in mind slieve bloom could have avoided this by accepting the gaels two months ago i am told it was never going to be on only at the last minute when the horse has bolted i aggree with mountrath 1 this fiasco should never have happened but i also aggree that these intercounty players should be accomadated and keep the small club alive
The 3 conroys i presume? Heard that daddy went and threw his toys out of the pram

Would be a shame to lose those 3. Hopefully this gets rectified.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on March 07, 2017, 10:20:38 PM
from what i hear slieve bloom have lost not one great but 3 and its devestating to a small club but bear in mind slieve bloom could have avoided this by accepting the gaels two months ago i am told it was never going to be on only at the last minute when the horse has bolted i aggree with mountrath 1 this fiasco should never have happened but i also aggree that these intercounty players should be accomadated and keep the small club alive
The 3 conroys i presume? Heard that daddy went and threw his toys out of the pram

Would be a shame to lose those 3. Hopefully this gets rectified.
What in the name of good christ were they playing at by turning down a gaels amalgamation with castletown for, not to mention ballinakill who have took on junior c hurlers in slieve margy, who is the chairman? Chris Eubank snr?lol
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on March 07, 2017, 10:28:37 PM
from what i hear slieve bloom have lost not one great but 3 and its devestating to a small club but bear in mind slieve bloom could have avoided this by accepting the gaels two months ago i am told it was never going to be on only at the last minute when the horse has bolted i aggree with mountrath 1 this fiasco should never have happened but i also aggree that these intercounty players should be accomadated and keep the small club alive
The 3 conroys i presume? Heard that daddy went and threw his toys out of the pram

Would be a shame to lose those 3. Hopefully this gets rectified.
What in the name of good christ were they playing at by turning down a gaels amalgamation with castletown for, not to mention ballinakill who have took on junior c hurlers in slieve margy, who is the chairman? Chris Eubank snr?lol
You've been grinding that axe for a while, it must be quare sharp by now.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on March 07, 2017, 10:32:22 PM
from what i hear slieve bloom have lost not one great but 3 and its devestating to a small club but bear in mind slieve bloom could have avoided this by accepting the gaels two months ago i am told it was never going to be on only at the last minute when the horse has bolted i aggree with mountrath 1 this fiasco should never have happened but i also aggree that these intercounty players should be accomadated and keep the small club alive
The 3 conroys i presume? Heard that daddy went and threw his toys out of the pram

Would be a shame to lose those 3. Hopefully this gets rectified.
What in the name of good christ were they playing at by turning down a gaels amalgamation with castletown for, not to mention ballinakill who have took on junior c hurlers in slieve margy, who is the chairman? Chris Eubank snr?lol

I also had heard that it was Slieve Bloom who turned down the Castletown join up.
If so, they have walked themselves into some mess.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on March 07, 2017, 10:35:55 PM
from what i hear slieve bloom have lost not one great but 3 and its devestating to a small club but bear in mind slieve bloom could have avoided this by accepting the gaels two months ago i am told it was never going to be on only at the last minute when the horse has bolted i aggree with mountrath 1 this fiasco should never have happened but i also aggree that these intercounty players should be accomadated and keep the small club alive
The 3 conroys i presume? Heard that daddy went and threw his toys out of the pram

Would be a shame to lose those 3. Hopefully this gets rectified.
What in the name of good christ were they playing at by turning down a gaels amalgamation with castletown for, not to mention ballinakill who have took on junior c hurlers in slieve margy, who is the chairman? Chris Eubank snr?lol

I also had heard that it was Slieve Bloom who turned down the Castletown join up.
If so, they have walked themselves into some mess.
Walked? I would of said nose dived
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on March 07, 2017, 10:42:51 PM
from what i hear slieve bloom have lost not one great but 3 and its devestating to a small club but bear in mind slieve bloom could have avoided this by accepting the gaels two months ago i am told it was never going to be on only at the last minute when the horse has bolted i aggree with mountrath 1 this fiasco should never have happened but i also aggree that these intercounty players should be accomadated and keep the small club alive
The 3 conroys i presume? Heard that daddy went and threw his toys out of the pram

Would be a shame to lose those 3. Hopefully this gets rectified.
What in the name of good christ were they playing at by turning down a gaels amalgamation with castletown for, not to mention ballinakill who have took on junior c hurlers in slieve margy, who is the chairman? Chris Eubank snr?lol

I also had heard that it was Slieve Bloom who turned down the Castletown join up.
If so, they have walked themselves into some mess.
Walked? I would of said nose dived

Hopefully the underage teams Castletown/Slieve Bloom won't keel over now with whatever divide is going on in the adult clubs.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on March 07, 2017, 10:56:48 PM
i am delighted that daly and conroy were refused dubious transfers. they come from small clubs who have enjoyed recent success and they would be best advised to stay put and help build the brand instead of making an individual fuss to play at a higher level.
I have sympathy with the kyle situation, Laois Gaa should be supporting small border outfits like this one and coming up with a plan to help give them stability or alternatively put in train a process to wind it down and accommodate the players elsewhere. the county board doing nil does not help, granting transfers out of kyle would be death by a thousand cuts.

the transfer of conroy in particular is puzzling. if I am correct, he played senior football in a gaels arrangement with ballyfin last year. why did his club not seek to cement that arrangement by organising a hurling gaels link up? or was senior b not of sufficient standard.
in conversation today with a member of the county executive who sat on the committee hearings last night, conroy was quizzed on his "portlaoise address" and the answers were not satisfactory, the chairman wondered why the player was using his home address for vouched expenses with the county team and supplied a different portlaoise address for the transfer!.

these Daly/Conroy style transfers bring us back to the thorny issue of the policy in this county of properly organising area/gaels teams within the current senior hurling and football championships. certain senior clubs will be against the idea, especially football ones, and unless policy is directed and led by the county board, it will remain a bone of contention.

finally I encountered an officer of slieve bloom in Roscrea last week and asked the question as to why they did no join up with Castletown or Ballyfin(my query). He said the one pre-condition his club presented to castletown for a Gaels join up was that the Gaels team would field in a neutral jersey. castletown would not entertain that proposition and there ended that potential link up. He told me Ballyfin never contacted them about joining up for hurling.  That is what I have been told, true or not.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on March 07, 2017, 11:08:32 PM
i am delighted that daly and conroy were refused dubious transfers. they come from small clubs who have enjoyed recent success and they would be best advised to stay put and help build the brand instead of making an individual fuss to play at a higher level.
I have sympathy with the kyle situation, Laois Gaa should be supporting small border outfits like this one and coming up with a plan to help give them stability or alternatively put in train a process to wind it down and accommodate the players elsewhere. the county board doing nil does not help, granting transfers out of kyle would be death by a thousand cuts.

the transfer of conroy in particular is puzzling. if I am correct, he played senior football in a gaels arrangement with ballyfin last year. why did his club not seek to cement that arrangement by organising a hurling gaels link up? or was senior b not of sufficient standard.
in conversation today with a member of the county executive who sat on the committee hearings last night, conroy was quizzed on his "portlaoise address" and the answers were not satisfactory, the chairman wondered why the player was using his home address for vouched expenses with the county team and supplied a different portlaoise address for the transfer!.

these Daly/Conroy style transfers bring us back to the thorny issue of the policy in this county of properly organising area/gaels teams within the current senior hurling and football championships. certain senior clubs will be against the idea, especially football ones, and unless policy is directed and led by the county board, it will remain a bone of contention.

finally I encountered an officer of slieve bloom in Roscrea last week and asked the question as to why they did no join up with Castletown or Ballyfin(my query). He said the one pre-condition his club presented to castletown for a Gaels join up was that the Gaels team would field in a neutral jersey. castletown would not entertain that proposition and there ended that potential link up. He told me Ballyfin never contacted them about joining up for hurling.  That is what I have been told, true or not.

Doesn't bother me either ways,but would that be a fairly unusual occurrence?
Considering the difference in level of the two clubs? Or would it be a normal thing?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Bueller on March 08, 2017, 08:31:36 AM
i am delighted that daly and conroy were refused dubious transfers. they come from small clubs who have enjoyed recent success and they would be best advised to stay put and help build the brand instead of making an individual fuss to play at a higher level.
I have sympathy with the kyle situation, Laois Gaa should be supporting small border outfits like this one and coming up with a plan to help give them stability or alternatively put in train a process to wind it down and accommodate the players elsewhere. the county board doing nil does not help, granting transfers out of kyle would be death by a thousand cuts.

the transfer of conroy in particular is puzzling. if I am correct, he played senior football in a gaels arrangement with ballyfin last year. why did his club not seek to cement that arrangement by organising a hurling gaels link up? or was senior b not of sufficient standard.
in conversation today with a member of the county executive who sat on the committee hearings last night, conroy was quizzed on his "portlaoise address" and the answers were not satisfactory, the chairman wondered why the player was using his home address for vouched expenses with the county team and supplied a different portlaoise address for the transfer!.

these Daly/Conroy style transfers bring us back to the thorny issue of the policy in this county of properly organising area/gaels teams within the current senior hurling and football championships. certain senior clubs will be against the idea, especially football ones, and unless policy is directed and led by the county board, it will remain a bone of contention.

finally I encountered an officer of slieve bloom in Roscrea last week and asked the question as to why they did no join up with Castletown or Ballyfin(my query). He said the one pre-condition his club presented to castletown for a Gaels join up was that the Gaels team would field in a neutral jersey. castletown would not entertain that proposition and there ended that potential link up. He told me Ballyfin never contacted them about joining up for hurling.  That is what I have been told, true or not.

Re Conroy and Portlaoise, the County Chairman would be better advised to turn his gaze upon the Portlaoise Clubs hand in this and a number of other cases recently. Their behavior is despicable.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: High Fielder on March 08, 2017, 10:13:39 AM
It actually doesn't bother me either way. But I like consistency and transparency. I have no interest in one rule for one and something completely different for another.

There is no such rule to retrospectively cancel transfers. I was being facetious. My broader point was that where people live has never been that much of a factor before, and that is commonly known. Why now?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: honest hurler on March 08, 2017, 11:35:08 AM
Look in relation to this affair with Conroy of slieve bloom this I am told would never had happened if his club would have given him the chance to play Gaels with ballinkill and bear in mind that he was also willing to play with Castletown only as the officer has stated in a previous comment that his club wanted an neutral jersey also this is one other comment I will remind you all our county secretary has indorced the idea of Gaels
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Pablo Escobar on March 08, 2017, 03:53:05 PM
It actually doesn't bother me either way. But I like consistency and transparency. I have no interest in one rule for one and something completely different for another.

There is no such rule to retrospectively cancel transfers. I was being facetious. My broader point was that where people live has never been that much of a factor before, and that is commonly known. Why now?

Josephs role in this is despicable . No better than A certain club which you often berate . Same tactics used. The county board has changed it process and its great to see. The only hope is that it continues .l
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on March 08, 2017, 04:35:45 PM
Look in relation to this affair with Conroy of slieve bloom this I am told would never had happened if his club would have given him the chance to play Gaels with ballinkill and bear in mind that he was also willing to play with Castletown only as the officer has stated in a previous comment that his club wanted an neutral jersey also this is one other comment I will remind you all our county secretary has indorced the idea of Gaels

He endorse or encourage whatever he likes- It's still up to the club's involved to agree on something.

Slieve Bloom failed to reach agreements with two different clubs. If what's written here is true it was Slieve Bloom who pulled out of both deals.
That doesn't reflect well on them- surely they were the club with most to gain from of reaching an agreement.

The amount of your posts that are solely about Ben Conroy is actually disturbing.

One other thing,

That Buggy chap seems a good footballer doesnt he?
Did he transfer to Stradbally? When, at what age and from where?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: High Fielder on March 08, 2017, 04:50:57 PM
It actually doesn't bother me either way. But I like consistency and transparency. I have no interest in one rule for one and something completely different for another.

There is no such rule to retrospectively cancel transfers. I was being facetious. My broader point was that where people live has never been that much of a factor before, and that is commonly known. Why now?

Josephs role in this is despicable . No better than A certain club which you often berate . Same tactics used. The county board has changed it process and its great to see. The only hope is that it continues .l

A club that I often berate?

As for a leopard changing its spots, I'm not so sure. Maybe there was nothing on this roundabout to make it look like a good ride. If this is the way it's going to be for everyone, then great. A lot of harm has been done because of previous decisions
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on March 08, 2017, 08:12:57 PM
Oh well, onwards and upwards, lets see if b/k can retain or another football team can knock stradbally or portlaoise. This year is flying by
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on March 09, 2017, 12:54:33 PM
http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/home/238992/teenager-who-loves-gaelic-games-lost-to-gaa-as-transfer-to-portlaoise-is-turned-down.html
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on March 09, 2017, 05:26:14 PM
http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/home/238992/teenager-who-loves-gaelic-games-lost-to-gaa-as-transfer-to-portlaoise-is-turned-down.html

I saw the comment on facebook that precipitated this article. It was from the child's parent from what I can remember.
The child's condition is unfortunate, but there are several aspects of the article that I don't like.

I don't think the child's condition is that relevant to the rules around transfers. The original comment mentioned special food not being provided for him after blitzes etc and him having to leave because he felt left out. This was despite the parent having made the club aware of this.
I assume that the P/R U10/U12 teams were being fed from food supplied by parents of same? Unless of course they are being treated to post game meals by Bosco or someone?
Was there any reason that this parent couldn't have chipped in and provide some of the food that suits the child's diet. I'm assuming that at least some of the food provided came from parents?

While it is harsh that a child, once registered with a club, is a member for life (until a transfer), how else do we stop the better players all around the county moving to the strongest clubs at 14/15/16 years of age?
Well, this is a pathetic issue to raise.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on March 09, 2017, 05:44:34 PM
You wonder what the motivation behind this,is with the Express in particular

Are they as quick to run with every comment left on facebook?.

the headline states hes "lost to GAA",im sure P/R will have him back,this sort of incorrect headline grabbing bollocks grinds my gears as well.

Its also my understanding that the man who left the comment on FB was a mentor on his sons teams for a period of time and that the son and Im open to correction here,played on P/R teams in 2016 and 2015.

hardly the proper angle of attack to be taking.

Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on March 09, 2017, 07:38:59 PM
What an atrocious article. The "journalist", and I use the term very f***ing loosely, that wrote that should hang his head.
Did he ever hear of balance? Did he look for a statement from Laois GAA or Park Ratheniska GAA?
A completely one sided argument in the piece. Terrible. Referring to Portlaoise in the piece as the lad's home club. Wrong. Your home club is the first club you are registered with, in this case Park Ratheniska.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on March 09, 2017, 07:43:27 PM
What an atrocious article. The "journalist", and I use the term very f***ing loosely, that wrote that should hang his head.
Did he ever hear of balance? Did he look for a statement from Laois GAA or Park Ratheniska GAA?
A completely one sided argument in the piece. Terrible. Referring to Portlaoise in the piece as the lad's home club. Wrong. Your home club is the first club you are registered with, in this case Park Ratheniska.

It's just taking the handy way out. It's a clickbait article which will provoke the ire of those who love to jump on any crusading bandwagon.
It will be shared and commented on all around the country.
And it is exactly the kind of article that sees a journalist invited onto the likes of Joe Duffy to tell us all the background etc of.

If I were involved with Park Ratheniska I think I'd be looking for a clarification or retraction of some sort. Hard to do without starting a tit for tat over and back, but as you say, no comment from either source (and no indication that either were asked) is atrocious journalism.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on March 09, 2017, 08:56:33 PM
the standard of journalism at the leinster express is at an all time low, the rag is in survival mode and the truth is that the poor sods paying for the memorial notices etc are keeping it afloat. the sports production is stale and lacking innovation, the paper is normally used by a young sports journalist as a step ladder to a bigger job.

it was disgusting to be this Facebook whinge given oxygen. I would imagine all those who failed to get the positive nod in the transfer meeting the other night would vent their anger in the immediate aftermath of rejection, best to give them breathing room and let the hare sit before adding fuel in a journalistic manner to the fire.

I assume this is the same journalist who went running to the mainstream media with his sensational headlines that Port were at war with other sports. Although Shaggy Leavy may have worded his views incorrectly about the problem Port had in attracting kids to the GAA, one could see some merit in his expression. The GAA is in a battle with other sports for the raw material which is kids, and if we don't accept this fact then we are in trouble long term......the journalist turned Shaggy's remarks into a national issue for a few days.

said journalist, and he is likely to be snooping around these parts for crumbs, would want to reflect that keeping stuff in-house serve all better, rather than selling stories for personal gain.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Negan on March 09, 2017, 09:10:44 PM
It's not in any clubs interest to reply to that article. As we all see it's disgraceful journalism and anyone with a brain in their head will realise that. My sympathies to the child but if what has been said here is true, his father has been very foolish. Says it all that it's come from the news desk at the express and not the sports desk.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on March 09, 2017, 10:32:48 PM
Says it all that it's come from the news desk at the express and not the sports desk.
I think that's an important point. Rory Delaney, I think, is the sports editor, and is a good writer and a good guy. His "road trip" articles this year are very good.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on March 10, 2017, 09:59:18 PM
It's not in any clubs interest to reply to that article. As we all see it's disgraceful journalism and anyone with a brain in their head will realise that. My sympathies to the child but if what has been said here is true, his father has been very foolish. Says it all that it's come from the news desk at the express and not the sports desk.

I'm not so sure.
"We all see"- I.E. those of us reading an internet forum dedicated to Laois GAA.
Have a look on facebook and see if all of Park Ratheniska's prospective mammies and daddies out there see it the same as we do.
To paraphrase Mr Leavy, Park Ratheniska and all of the clubs surrounding Portlaoise are in a war to attract the young lads to their door and not in Portlaoise.

As well as all of the obvious advantages that Portlaoise enjoy, you now have this story.
Facebook summary of this story is Park Ratheniska & Laois = The Baddies, Portlaoise = The Goodies
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on March 13, 2017, 08:11:42 PM
It actually doesn't bother me either way. But I like consistency and transparency. I have no interest in one rule for one and something completely different for another.

There is no such rule to retrospectively cancel transfers. I was being facetious. My broader point was that where people live has never been that much of a factor before, and that is commonly known. Why now?

Josephs role in this is despicable . No better than A certain club which you often berate . Same tactics used. The county board has changed it process and its great to see. The only hope is that it continues .l

A club that I often berate?

As for a leopard changing its spots, I'm not so sure. Maybe there was nothing on this roundabout to make it look like a good ride. If this is the way it's going to be for everyone, then great. A lot of harm has been done because of previous decisions
Everyone has a price, the important thing is to find out what it is.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on March 14, 2017, 07:47:43 PM
I see Lir McDonald has transferred to Ballinakill from Slieve Margy as was down as playing with Ballinakill seniors according to the Leinster Express match report vs Abbeyleix. A more consistent role in team rather than wait till championship as gaels to establish himself. Best of luck to him.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: redsetanta on March 14, 2017, 08:59:28 PM
It showsbthat there are hurlers in the football parts of the county. There's always lads who prefer hurling so thats why they need the structures and support. Thats why clubs like Slieve Margy need to get support from CB and keep going.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BallyroanAbbey on March 14, 2017, 09:54:40 PM
McDonald transfer was refused, he should never of been playing
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on March 14, 2017, 10:44:04 PM
McDonald transfer was refused, he should never of been playing

That is an extremely serious offence if what you say is true?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: TP Ashe on March 14, 2017, 10:53:48 PM
His transfer was definitely refused.

However, he had the right of appeal and that could have taken place as early as last Thursday. I haven't heard if he did appeal or not but I felt it was worth mentioning that maybe there's nothing to see here and this 18 year old was perfectly legal in playing...
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on March 14, 2017, 11:07:42 PM
McDonald transfer was refused, he should never of been playing
"Have".
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on March 14, 2017, 11:12:18 PM
Look what I started  :o In all seriousness, I hope that the transfer process is all above board. Ballinakill would hardly be that stupid to pull such an act if he's not a registered Ballinakill player.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on March 14, 2017, 11:14:25 PM
Look what I started  :o In all seriousness, I hope that the transfer process is all above board. Ballinakill would hardly be that stupid to pull such an act if he's not a registered Ballinakill player.
Playing an illegal underage intercounty player in a county league game, with a reporter present? Yeah, I find it unlikely they're that stupid.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on March 14, 2017, 11:15:05 PM
Look what I started  :o In all seriousness, I hope that the transfer process is all above board. Ballinakill would hardly be that stupid to pull such an act if he's not a registered Ballinakill player.

Surely not.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on March 15, 2017, 07:38:14 AM
It didn't stop Emo playing Cian Langford, a county minor footballer, in the league against Arles.
Clearly against the rule book and I hear they're in trouble over it.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on March 15, 2017, 08:46:20 AM
It didn't stop Emo playing Cian Langford, a county minor footballer, in the league against Arles.
Clearly against the rule book and I hear they're in trouble over it.
So, if what has been suggested here is true, both Ballinakill and Emo have now brought their own clubs into disrepute. Are we suggesting that club executives are getting dumber? Or do they believe the County Board will balls this up too?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Ballyroan Abbey on March 15, 2017, 10:35:23 AM
Ballinakill also played seamus fitzpatrick who as far as i know is on the minor hurlers, open to correction on that one
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: TP Ashe on March 15, 2017, 12:08:57 PM
Seamus Fitzpatrick was eligible to hurl.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on March 15, 2017, 02:12:35 PM
Look what I started  :o In all seriousness, I hope that the transfer process is all above board. Ballinakill would hardly be that stupid to pull such an act if he's not a registered Ballinakill player.
Playing an illegal underage intercounty player in a county league game, with a reporter present? Yeah, I find it unlikely they're that stupid.
Isn't McDonald overage for this year's minor?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on March 15, 2017, 03:04:18 PM
Look what I started  :o In all seriousness, I hope that the transfer process is all above board. Ballinakill would hardly be that stupid to pull such an act if he's not a registered Ballinakill player.
Playing an illegal underage intercounty player in a county league game, with a reporter present? Yeah, I find it unlikely they're that stupid.
Isn't McDonald overage for this year's minor?
I presume he's still U21
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on March 15, 2017, 05:54:50 PM
There is precedence for when clubs have played county minors etc to lose any points won (Ballinakill didn't win any).

What has been suggested here about McDonald is a lot more serious- whatever age he is!
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on March 15, 2017, 06:47:10 PM
Look what I started  :o In all seriousness, I hope that the transfer process is all above board. Ballinakill would hardly be that stupid to pull such an act if he's not a registered Ballinakill player.
Playing an illegal underage intercounty player in a county league game, with a reporter present? Yeah, I find it unlikely they're that stupid.
Isn't McDonald overage for this year's minor?
I presume he's still U21
Yes. I thought the suggestion was that as a county minor, he couldn't play club football. Don't know if he's a county under 21 panellist in either code?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on March 15, 2017, 09:53:41 PM
Look what I started  :o In all seriousness, I hope that the transfer process is all above board. Ballinakill would hardly be that stupid to pull such an act if he's not a registered Ballinakill player.
Playing an illegal underage intercounty player in a county league game, with a reporter present? Yeah, I find it unlikely they're that stupid.
Isn't McDonald overage for this year's minor?
I presume he's still U21
Yes. I thought the suggestion was that as a county minor, he couldn't play club football. Don't know if he's a county under 21 panellist in either code?
I was referring to fact that you could f**k in an illegal lad if no one knew him from adam, but the likes of Lir would stand out.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on March 16, 2017, 07:56:21 AM
Look what I started  :o In all seriousness, I hope that the transfer process is all above board. Ballinakill would hardly be that stupid to pull such an act if he's not a registered Ballinakill player.
Playing an illegal underage intercounty player in a county league game, with a reporter present? Yeah, I find it unlikely they're that stupid.
Isn't McDonald overage for this year's minor?
I presume he's still U21
Yes. I thought the suggestion was that as a county minor, he couldn't play club football. Don't know if he's a county under 21 panellist in either code?
I was referring to fact that you could f**k in an illegal lad if no one knew him from adam, but the likes of Lir would stand out.
Gotcha.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Negan on March 18, 2017, 12:30:21 PM
It's not in any clubs interest to reply to that article. As we all see it's disgraceful journalism and anyone with a brain in their head will realise that. My sympathies to the child but if what has been said here is true, his father has been very foolish. Says it all that it's come from the news desk at the express and not the sports desk.

I'm not so sure.
"We all see"- I.E. those of us reading an internet forum dedicated to Laois GAA.
Have a look on facebook and see if all of Park Ratheniska's prospective mammies and daddies out there see it the same as we do.
To paraphrase Mr Leavy, Park Ratheniska and all of the clubs surrounding Portlaoise are in a war to attract the young lads to their door and not in Portlaoise.

As well as all of the obvious advantages that Portlaoise enjoy, you now have this story.
Facebook summary of this story is Park Ratheniska & Laois = The Baddies, Portlaoise = The Goodies
Not to give this more oxygen, but I see it appeared on Hogan Stand yesterday. The father is contacting media sites with his 'story'. I wonder will we hear the true story in due course?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: burdizzo on March 18, 2017, 01:26:17 PM
Hogan Stand wouldn't have much of an editorial filter.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: border on March 20, 2017, 02:44:25 PM
Does anyone know if anyone is appealing their transfer
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: hurlingmad on March 22, 2017, 01:07:26 PM
Does anyone know if anyone is appealing their transfer
Conor Quinlan is the only one I know on the hurling side
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: CluainABU on March 23, 2017, 11:29:08 PM
Does anyone know if anyone is appealing their transfer
Conor Quinlan is the only one I know on the hurling side

Was that appeal this evening? Did anyone hear if it was sanctioned?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BobbyBoucherJr on April 07, 2017, 08:42:55 AM
Brian Dalys appeal was rejected, I believe its going to the DRA now.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on April 07, 2017, 08:50:41 AM
Brian Dalys appeal was rejected, I believe its going to the DRA now.
f**k sake. What a cuntish place we're in where clubs are going to the DRA to take their neighbours players. No wonder this county is fucked.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BallyroanAbbey on April 07, 2017, 09:43:53 AM
Martin Scullys was approved last night, any word on quinlans or foyles
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BallyroanAbu on April 07, 2017, 09:46:26 AM
Anyword on Niall Brennan
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on April 07, 2017, 10:48:04 AM
Brian Dalys appeal was rejected, I believe its going to the DRA now.
f**k sake. What a cuntish place we're in where clubs are going to the DRA to take their neighbours players. No wonder this county is fucked.
Agree fully but has Daly himself no imput into it at all. Is he being kidnapped, why isnt he playing with his club right now. In a tango you need two participants
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on April 07, 2017, 11:01:38 AM
Brian Dalys appeal was rejected, I believe its going to the DRA now.
f**k sake. What a cuntish place we're in where clubs are going to the DRA to take their neighbours players. No wonder this county is fucked.

Agreed

And not the first time either
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on April 07, 2017, 11:03:49 AM
Brian Dalys appeal was rejected, I believe its going to the DRA now.
f**k sake. What a cuntish place we're in where clubs are going to the DRA to take their neighbours players. No wonder this county is fucked.
Agree fully but has Daly himself no imput into it at all. Is he being kidnapped, why isnt he playing with his club right now. In a tango you need two participants
I dont give a shit. Clubs have no honour. I know of 2 clubs, back in the day, who when they were asked by players about getting a transfer to them from a rival club, told the players in question to run off back and cop themselves on. If you've no honour in this life, you've nothing.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: redsetanta on April 07, 2017, 11:06:33 AM
Once it has gone as far as the DRA the player is as well off leaving the club because they've already made it be known they no longer want to play there.
You have a point Don but we're living in a selfish world now. Everyman for himself and all that.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on April 07, 2017, 11:11:47 AM
Once it has gone as far as the DRA the player is as well off leaving the club because they've already made it be known they no longer want to play there.
You have a point Don but we're living in a selfish world now. Everyman for himself and all that.
"Everyman for himself"

And that ladies and gentlemen, is why this county will never get a "team" capable of doing anything worthwhile. The individual should never be more important than the collective.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: vallankumous on April 07, 2017, 11:20:00 AM
Once it has gone as far as the DRA the player is as well off leaving the club because they've already made it be known they no longer want to play there.
You have a point Don but we're living in a selfish world now. Everyman for himself and all that.
"Everyman for himself"

And that ladies and gentlemen, is why this county will never get a "team" capable of doing anything worthwhile. The individual should never be more important than the collective.

Too right Spock
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on April 07, 2017, 11:24:50 AM
Any other verdicts regarding appeals. We'd 3 in our club to my knowledge  :o . Hardly good for playing environment lads throwing in transfers. Some genuine and then there's as already the selfish ones. No player is bigger than their club.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on April 07, 2017, 11:31:35 AM
Once it has gone as far as the DRA the player is as well off leaving the club because they've already made it be known they no longer want to play there.
You have a point Don but we're living in a selfish world now. Everyman for himself and all that.
"Everyman for himself"

And that ladies and gentlemen, is why this county will never get a "team" capable of doing anything worthwhile. The individual should never be more important than the collective.
Everything you say Don is right but as Red said your dealing with a different animal these days. Young people dont do conventional now. Todays generation do as they please like traveling,changing jobs etc and just leave their clubs high and dry for long periods and you know what fair play to them.More to life these days then the GAA. Getting back to this particular case i cannot see anyone coming out smiling at the end. 
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on April 07, 2017, 11:33:18 AM
Once it has gone as far as the DRA the player is as well off leaving the club because they've already made it be known they no longer want to play there.
You have a point Don but we're living in a selfish world now. Everyman for himself and all that.
"Everyman for himself"

And that ladies and gentlemen, is why this county will never get a "team" capable of doing anything worthwhile. The individual should never be more important than the collective.
Everything you say Don is right but as Red said your dealing with a different animal these days. Young people dont do conventional now. Todays generation do as they please like traveling,changing jobs etc and just leave their clubs high and dry for long periods and you know what fair play to them.More to life these days then the GAA. Getting back to this particular case i cannot see anyone coming out smiling at the end.
And again, I say, the club should tell them to f**k off back where they came from. That would solve all of these non genuine cases.

There is no honour in this.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BallyroanAbbey on April 07, 2017, 12:19:51 PM
Anyword on Niall Brennan

Has already played a couple of games for st fintans from what i gathered he wasnt overly concerned with how it went
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on April 07, 2017, 12:26:14 PM
The reality is very few clubs ( if any) will do as you say Don. To name a few,Stradbally didnt do it, Kileen didnt do it,Portlaoise didnt do it,. The world we live in now is a different one i grew up in Don. I myself traveled in my playing days and missed a quarter final ( Junior might i add :-X) and that wasnt today or yesterday and if i may say so i was ostracised for a while for doing so. The GAA  club scene was defined by life time allegiance to your locality, local pub, local dance hall etc but unfortunately as the country dynamic changes that allegiance is quickly decaying ( a bit like the small farmer in Ireland).Clubs and club officers are part of that new dynamic now so to suggest they should tell someone  to "F%%k back to their own club" is  not going to happen. 
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on April 07, 2017, 12:35:06 PM
The reality is very few clubs ( if any) will do as you say Don. To name a few,Stradbally didnt do it, Kileen didnt do it,Portlaoise didnt do it,. The world we live in now is a different one i grew up in Don. I myself traveled in my playing days and missed a quarter final ( Junior might i add :-X) and that wasnt today or yesterday and if i may say so i was ostracised for a while for doing so. The GAA  club scene was defined by life time allegiance to your locality, local pub, local dance hall etc but unfortunately as the country dynamic changes that allegiance is quickly decaying ( a bit like the small farmer in Ireland).Clubs and club officers are part of that new dynamic now so to suggest they should tell someone  to "F%%k back to their own club" is  not going to happen.
You seem to be ok with this new attitude of the likes of Stradbally Killeen and Portlaoise so. If you're ok with it, you're part of the problem. You omitted St Josephs there by the way.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BallyroanAbu on April 07, 2017, 12:44:05 PM
Personally I think players should be allowed transfer as they please.  Why should anyone be bound to a club,  in no aspect of life would this happen why should the GAA be any different.  If clubs are doing a good job they will attract players if not they won't.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: redsetanta on April 07, 2017, 12:47:19 PM
I didn't get that from the post, he seemed to be stated his opinion as he sees it.

Maybe there are clubs who would refuse a player transfer but if you are going to have amalgamations underage and younglads are playing alongside each other for years it will inevitability happen that some will want to continue that relationship. We can't use the same brush for all players who transfer. In principle I don't agree with it but the CB certainly didn't help matters when you see what happened with the Kingstons. If Barrowhouse had those lads aswell they would probably have aspirations of playing senior football as a club.

Ballylinan lost players around the time of the St Michaels episode(almost 20 years ago) as there were people who genuinely wanted a parish team. It caused such animosity among some that they didn't play in the parish again and moved clubs.

Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on April 07, 2017, 01:13:27 PM
Personally I think players should be allowed transfer as they please.  Why should anyone be bound to a club,  in no aspect of life would this happen why should the GAA be any different.  If clubs are doing a good job they will attract players if not they won't.
Because the GAA is different. And if you are to allow free movement, then you take away one of the strengths of the GAA.

But you and the others are entitled to your opinions obviously, and it will be interesting if it forever stays thus.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on April 07, 2017, 02:19:45 PM
Personally I think players should be allowed transfer as they please.  Why should anyone be bound to a club,  in no aspect of life would this happen why should the GAA be any different.  If clubs are doing a good job they will attract players if not they won't.

I'm delighted to hear you feel like that,BA

The hurling side of your outfit have 5/6 lovely u16's

Parcel them up for me,I'll be over to collect them later
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BallyroanAbu on April 07, 2017, 03:03:14 PM
I think they want to play Senior A.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Ballyroan Abbey on April 07, 2017, 03:18:49 PM
Personally I think players should be allowed transfer as they please.  Why should anyone be bound to a club,  in no aspect of life would this happen why should the GAA be any different.  If clubs are doing a good job they will attract players if not they won't.
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And thats why ballyroan have the reputation of a helicopter club, each to their own but if a player wamts to transfer from a small club to a big senior club it says more about the individual than anyone else
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BallyroanAbu on April 07, 2017, 03:41:32 PM
So a player should be happy playing Junior C,B or A  because of a decision he made when he was 10.  If someone told you that you had to stay in the same job because it was your first job would that be fair.  Most players don't even realise the extent to which their been held by clubs, usually what happens is that they get pissed off and stop playing altogether.  Helicopter Club ? Would the issue not be that we are the only football club in a predominantly hurling area. 
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Ballyroan Abbey on April 07, 2017, 03:50:51 PM
No we ve taken lads out of raheen, spink, ratheniska, ballacolla and durrow in the last few years, all these areas have clubs, id rather we did the best with what we have to be honest, your talking down about junior clubs like its a death sentance to play for one, well its very hard for these clubs to progress up the ladder when there best players are been taken from them isnt it
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on April 07, 2017, 03:58:51 PM
I think they want to play Senior A.

Maybe the Tipp or Kk clubs should pop over the border then and offer them  the chance to play on all ireland winning minor teams instead of hanging around going nowhere with laois,because that's the logical conclusion of your argument.

If what your suggesting ever comes true,the juvenile sections in all bar  the top 4/5 clubs can close the gate.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on April 07, 2017, 04:03:20 PM
I think they want to play Senior A.

Maybe the Tipp or Kk clubs should pop over the border then and offer them  the chance to play on all ireland winning minor teams instead of hanging around going nowhere with laois,because that's the logical conclusion of your argument.

If what your suggesting ever comes true,the juvenile sections in all bar  the top 4/5 clubs can close the gate.
No, what he's suggesting is cuntish in the extreme. Full stop. You'd hope he's but one voice. You'd hope.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on April 07, 2017, 04:43:57 PM
The reality is very few clubs ( if any) will do as you say Don. To name a few,Stradbally didnt do it, Kileen didnt do it,Portlaoise didnt do it,. The world we live in now is a different one i grew up in Don. I myself traveled in my playing days and missed a quarter final ( Junior might i add :-X) and that wasnt today or yesterday and if i may say so i was ostracised for a while for doing so. The GAA  club scene was defined by life time allegiance to your locality, local pub, local dance hall etc but unfortunately as the country dynamic changes that allegiance is quickly decaying ( a bit like the small farmer in Ireland).Clubs and club officers are part of that new dynamic now so to suggest they should tell someone  to "F%%k back to their own club" is  not going to happen.
You seem to be ok with this new attitude of the likes of Stradbally Killeen and Portlaoise so. If you're ok with it, you're part of the problem. You omitted St Josephs there by the way.


 I sure did leave out St Josephs as they havent facilitated any transfers yet and because none of us know whether they did or did not tell Daly to stay with his own club.I named clubs who did as seen by the transfers they did facilitate into their clubs. Whether i agree with it or not makes no difference and as i already said times are a changing and us guys who went with the norm may now move with the times. Just like Politics the norm is changing. I also dont see it as a recent problem as guys seeking transfers has been going on a long long time now....
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on April 07, 2017, 04:50:26 PM
I hear the Kyle Byrne transfer appeal to the Laois Cccc was lost as well.

Can we expect more media attention and perhaps Portlaoise beating a well trodden path to the leinster council and ultimately the DRA (cost €1,500) over yet another juvenile player?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on April 07, 2017, 04:51:10 PM
I think they want to play Senior A.

Maybe the Tipp or Kk clubs should pop over the border then and offer them  the chance to play on all ireland winning minor teams instead of hanging around going nowhere with laois,because that's the logical conclusion of your argument.

If what your suggesting ever comes true,the juvenile sections in all bar  the top 4/5 clubs can close the gate.
No, what he's suggesting is cuntish in the extreme. Full stop. You'd hope he's but one voice. You'd hope.

Aye. You'd hope
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on April 07, 2017, 06:51:34 PM
The reality is very few clubs ( if any) will do as you say Don. To name a few,Stradbally didnt do it, Kileen didnt do it,Portlaoise didnt do it,. The world we live in now is a different one i grew up in Don. I myself traveled in my playing days and missed a quarter final ( Junior might i add :-X) and that wasnt today or yesterday and if i may say so i was ostracised for a while for doing so. The GAA  club scene was defined by life time allegiance to your locality, local pub, local dance hall etc but unfortunately as the country dynamic changes that allegiance is quickly decaying ( a bit like the small farmer in Ireland).Clubs and club officers are part of that new dynamic now so to suggest they should tell someone  to "F%%k back to their own club" is  not going to happen.
You seem to be ok with this new attitude of the likes of Stradbally Killeen and Portlaoise so. If you're ok with it, you're part of the problem. You omitted St Josephs there by the way.


 I sure did leave out St Josephs as they havent facilitated any transfers yet and because none of us know whether they did or did not tell Daly to stay with his own club.I named clubs who did as seen by the transfers they did facilitate into their clubs. Whether i agree with it or not makes no difference and as i already said times are a changing and us guys who went with the norm may now move with the times. Just like Politics the norm is changing. I also dont see it as a recent problem as guys seeking transfers has been going on a long long time now....

Yea, I'm putting Joseph's in with the ones you named.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BobbyBoucherJr on April 08, 2017, 08:48:51 AM
I hear the Kyle Byrne transfer appeal to the Laois Cccc was lost as well.

Can we expect more media attention and perhaps Portlaoise beating a well trodden path to the leinster council and ultimately the DRA (cost €1,500) over yet another juvenile player?
I heard he actually won his appeal and his transfer is approved. We just saved €1500!
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on April 08, 2017, 08:52:59 AM
I hear the Kyle Byrne transfer appeal to the Laois Cccc was lost as well.

Can we expect more media attention and perhaps Portlaoise beating a well trodden path to the leinster council and ultimately the DRA (cost €1,500) over yet another juvenile player?
I heard he actually won his appeal and his transfer is approved. We just saved €1500!
Maybe ye could donate that 1500 to the 'pay back Croke Park & Leinster Council' fund.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on April 08, 2017, 08:57:54 AM
I hear the Kyle Byrne transfer appeal to the Laois Cccc was lost as well.

Can we expect more media attention and perhaps Portlaoise beating a well trodden path to the leinster council and ultimately the DRA (cost €1,500) over yet another juvenile player?
I heard he actually won his appeal and his transfer is approved. We just saved €1500!

You heard wrong
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BobbyBoucherJr on April 08, 2017, 09:07:57 AM
I hear the Kyle Byrne transfer appeal to the Laois Cccc was lost as well.

Can we expect more media attention and perhaps Portlaoise beating a well trodden path to the leinster council and ultimately the DRA (cost €1,500) over yet another juvenile player?
I heard he actually won his appeal and his transfer is approved. We just saved €1500!
Maybe ye could donate that 1500 to the 'pay back Croke Park & Leinster Council' fund.
they won't be getting anything back
Anyway there's plenty more potential DRA cases we need to keep it for. Just waiting on our scouts to come back to us.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Pablo Escobar on April 08, 2017, 10:55:45 AM
How will these rejected transfers be overturned by the DRA? I've heard there is damning evidence proving that they are not living at there so called "addresses". I believe the clubs to which they are transferring to are trying to drive a wedge between the player and their home club. Clever but horrible .
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BallyroanAbu on April 08, 2017, 10:55:56 AM
Nasty
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BallyroanAbu on April 08, 2017, 10:57:05 AM
County Board is obviously clamping down on addresses rule.

Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Negan on April 08, 2017, 11:01:08 AM
Nasty
What did he say that he went back and edited?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Pablo Escobar on April 08, 2017, 11:09:44 AM
Nothing edited on my part
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 21, 2017, 01:08:19 PM
DRA rule that transfer of Laois U-21 football captain be heard again
http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/06/21/dra-rule-transfer-laois-u-21-football-captain-heard/
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on June 21, 2017, 03:16:41 PM
Joseph's are gone down a lot in my estimation.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 21, 2017, 07:56:29 PM
Mine too, but it looks like he is determined to leave Barrowhouse so it might be for the best. He is a good prospect for the future.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Heshs Umpire on June 21, 2017, 08:02:05 PM
Mine too, but it looks like he is determined to leave Barrowhouse so it might be for the best. He is a good prospect for the future.
Desperately unfair on barrowhouse. Imagine if they had him, the 2 Kingstons and Ian Whelan.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Toomanygaels on June 22, 2017, 12:24:49 AM
Is he still on the County Senior Panel. If he is he shouldn't be as he won't play for his club.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on June 22, 2017, 10:31:33 AM
Is he still on the County Senior Panel. If he is he shouldn't be as he won't play for his club.
Never stopped Billy Sheehan when he wouldn't play for Emo.
It shouldn't have been tolerated then and shouldn't now either.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Pablo Escobar on June 27, 2017, 10:57:10 AM
DRA rule that transfer of Laois U-21 football captain be heard again
http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/06/21/dra-rule-transfer-laois-u-21-football-captain-heard/

Any result from this ?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BallyroanAbbey on June 27, 2017, 10:59:49 AM
Hear Lir McDonald got his transfer to Ballinakill put through last week in one of the reviewed cases, dont know about any of the rest
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Heshs Umpire on July 05, 2017, 08:09:08 AM
Brian Daly's move to Joseph's is gone through. You'd have thought Joseph's had enough of a catchment area.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: High Fielder on July 05, 2017, 09:24:34 AM
He wanted to go there. He played all his juvenile football with Josephs. Did Josephs aggressively pursue him? No, they didn't. When he said he wanted to play for them, they backed him. There's a lot wrong in this case but Josephs took a good player in just like every other club would. Good players will always find it hard to progress in a small club. If it benefitted one of the CB members' clubs, there would be access to senior football for all. Kerry have been doing it for years
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on July 05, 2017, 12:02:11 PM
Did Josephs aggressively pursue him? No, they didn't.

If it benefitted one of the CB members' clubs, there would be access to senior football for all.
Both of this makes me laugh.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Pablo Escobar on July 05, 2017, 12:47:48 PM
He wanted to go there. He played all his juvenile football with Josephs. Did Josephs aggressively pursue him? No, they didn't. When he said he wanted to play for them, they backed him. There's a lot wrong in this case but Josephs took a good player in just like every other club would. Good players will always find it hard to progress in a small club. If it benefitted one of the CB members' clubs, there would be access to senior football for all. Kerry have been doing it for years

You are a joke . This transfer is rotten to the core. Josephs gave him a address  in a derelict house and you have the cheek to say ye didn't pursue it aggressively.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on July 05, 2017, 01:58:49 PM
Not going to get involved in slagging matches with posters(who are obviously  interested parties)  on this subject. In fairness and in my memory  transfers in Laois have caused many a debate and this case is no different. The rights and wrongs are varied and debatable but whats the difference between this transfer and any other transfer that was given.This year a player transferred from his home club (junior hurling) to a senior hurling club. Some high profile county players have in the recent past transferred  from a junior club to senior club. I could name at least 20 or more that i know of. Its been going on for years now and until the GAA sets rules/regulations that cannot be contested transfers will always happen. None of us can accuse any club/player of covert activities as we do not know the players situation regarding where he/she live or work. The rules and conditions are there and if a player seeking the transfer can satisfy those conditions they will get their transfer. Obviously the player fulfilled those conditions at the deciding forum.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Toomanygaels on July 05, 2017, 02:18:43 PM
He wanted to go there. He played all his juvenile football with Josephs. Did Josephs aggressively pursue him? No, they didn't. When he said he wanted to play for them, they backed him. There's a lot wrong in this case but Josephs took a good player in just like every other club would. Good players will always find it hard to progress in a small club. If it benefitted one of the CB members' clubs, there would be access to senior football for all. Kerry have been doing it for yearsGaa programmes

He wanted to go. That's not a justifiable reason for anyone to get a transfer.
He played all his juvenile football with St Joseph's!!! That's not a fact. St Joseph's haven't had a Juvenile team from U14 up for more than 10 years. So how could he have. St Joseph's have played with a gaels team which involved St Joseph's and barrowhouse player's called St Joseph's/Barrowhouse.

Did Josephs aggressively pursue him? YES they very much did from what I am hearing. They had some very prominent members fighting his case over the last few weeks at the hearings. That to me is totally wrong.

Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on July 05, 2017, 02:52:02 PM
He wanted to go there. He played all his juvenile football with Josephs. Did Josephs aggressively pursue him? No, they didn't. When he said he wanted to play for them, they backed him. There's a lot wrong in this case but Josephs took a good player in just like every other club would. Good players will always find it hard to progress in a small club. If it benefitted one of the CB members' clubs, there would be access to senior football for all. Kerry have been doing it for years
This stinks. Lousy of Joseph's tbh.
Good players will rise to the top anyway. Being an intermediate club player never stopped Tadhg fennin, niall Donoher, donal Miller, Liam harnan, Lee Keegan to name just a few.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: High Fielder on July 05, 2017, 03:02:17 PM
He wanted to go there. He played all his juvenile football with Josephs. Did Josephs aggressively pursue him? No, they didn't. When he said he wanted to play for them, they backed him. There's a lot wrong in this case but Josephs took a good player in just like every other club would. Good players will always find it hard to progress in a small club. If it benefitted one of the CB members' clubs, there would be access to senior football for all. Kerry have been doing it for years

You are a joke . This transfer is rotten to the core. Josephs gave him a address  in a derelict house and you have the cheek to say ye didn't pursue it aggressively.

All transfers require an address. The Kingstons have one and still live in Barrowhouse - as you probably know only too well. Truth be told, nothing could be turned down after the KIngstons. That's as illegal as it gets. Brian Daly wanted to play for Josephs and not Barrowhouse. My understanding is that he instigated this move. Josephs backed it.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: High Fielder on July 05, 2017, 03:03:46 PM
Did Josephs aggressively pursue him? No, they didn't.

If it benefitted one of the CB members' clubs, there would be access to senior football for all.
Both of this makes me laugh.

Both true. Nobody gives a shite what happens to Barrowhouse
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on July 05, 2017, 03:11:48 PM
I have a gut feeling that a couple of posters who are in turmoil over this transfer are not actually Barrowhouse people at all. My suspicions are they are from a  club who are presently organising their future and that may include an invitation to Barrowhouse to join them. This transfer has slightly upset their plans.....
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: HURLING1 on July 05, 2017, 03:18:21 PM
Most or all of the contentious transfers  would be avoided if the CB gained access for all players to Senior Hurling or Football. As an earlier poster pointed out it works perfectly in  Kerry amongst other counties
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on July 05, 2017, 03:20:35 PM
Most or all of the contentious transfers  would be avoided if the CB gained access for all players to Senior Hurling or Football. As an earlier poster pointed out it works perfectly in  Kerry amongst other counties
Well said...
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on July 05, 2017, 05:07:29 PM
He wanted to go there. He played all his juvenile football with Josephs. Did Josephs aggressively pursue him? No, they didn't. When he said he wanted to play for them, they backed him. There's a lot wrong in this case but Josephs took a good player in just like every other club would. Good players will always find it hard to progress in a small club. If it benefitted one of the CB members' clubs, there would be access to senior football for all. Kerry have been doing it for yearsGaa programmes

He wanted to go. That's not a justifiable reason for anyone to get a transfer.
He played all his juvenile football with St Joseph's!!! That's not a fact. St Joseph's haven't had a Juvenile team from U14 up for more than 10 years. So how could he have. St Joseph's have played with a gaels team which involved St Joseph's and barrowhouse player's called St Joseph's/Barrowhouse.

Did Josephs aggressively pursue him? YES they very much did from what I am hearing. They had some very prominent members fighting his case over the last few weeks at the hearings. That to me is totally wrong.
Bit of advice.Believe half of what you see and nothing what you hear.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: O moore parklife on July 05, 2017, 05:37:37 PM
How long will it take to make official I assume he will be ready for the first round of championship? ??
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on July 05, 2017, 10:28:44 PM
.This year a player transferred from his home club (junior hurling) to a senior hurling club.

Who?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BallyroanAbbey on July 05, 2017, 10:30:47 PM
What was the point in having a hard stance with transfers at the start of the year if you are just going to give it in the end anyway, I dont understand how these lads are still in there jobs, they have overseen and been responsible for more controversies in their reign than probably been seen in the last 30 years in Laois. In a county like Laois no adult transfers should be given, the county isnt exactly that big to be fair. Either make it total zero tolerance or open it completely because theres too many holes in the laws at the moment.

Lets be honest if the Kingstons and Daly were with Barrowhouse you could basically swap Killen and Barrowhouses positions on the club ladder
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on July 05, 2017, 10:48:41 PM
What was the point in having a hard stance with transfers at the start of the year if you are just going to give it in the end anyway, I dont understand how these lads are still in there jobs, they have overseen and been responsible for more controversies in their reign than probably been seen in the last 30 years in Laois. In a county like Laois no adult transfers should be given, the county isnt exactly that big to be fair. Either make it total zero tolerance or open it completely because theres too many holes in the laws at the moment.

Lets be honest if the Kingstons and Daly were with Barrowhouse you could basically swap Killen and Barrowhouses positions on the club ladder
To be fair i dont think it was the CB who ratified this transfer or the hurling transfer.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 06, 2017, 02:00:30 AM
Laois U-21 captain transfers from Barrowhouse to St Joseph’s

http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/07/05/laois-u-21-captain-transfers-barrowhouse-st-josephs/ (http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/07/05/laois-u-21-captain-transfers-barrowhouse-st-josephs/)

Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: High Fielder on July 06, 2017, 08:57:20 AM
What a farce. It looks like the CB did more harm than good with their intervention. The Barrowhouse club is getting a raw deal out of this, and its members now have to watch three footballers going to other clubs to play their football. It's obvious reading the above that Daly did all the running and Josephs backed it, as any club would in the same circumstances. The CB have seriously let down Barrowhouse with their failed intervention. They have also failed as a Board to put in place a provision that ensures Senior football is available to everyone whilst simultaneously allowing a lad to stay with his home club. All in all, another embarrassing episode. If this was going on elsewhere, heads would be rolling. What has happened here could be the difference between Barrowhouse staying up or going down. If they do go down, they could argue that Daly wouldn't have got the transfer but for the CB's failed intervention. Interesting stuff
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on July 06, 2017, 11:46:15 AM
Daly did all the running and Josephs backed it, as any club would in the same circumstances.
Not true. Clubs have told lads to feck off before. I know of cases where lads have been politely told to stay where they are. Decent players too.
Joseph's have been lousy here to a club that propped up their underage teams for years.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Laois fan on July 06, 2017, 12:14:13 PM
Giving him a fake address is hardly doing nothing,also do you not think his mates from joesphs were not constantly encouraging him to transfer.One thing for sure its going to make them alot stronger
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: High Fielder on July 06, 2017, 01:01:28 PM
Daly did all the running and Josephs backed it, as any club would in the same circumstances.
Not true. Clubs have told lads to feck off before. I know of cases where lads have been politely told to stay where they are. Decent players too.
Joseph's have been lousy here to a club that propped up their underage teams for years.

If the rule was implemented properly when the Kingstons transferred, none of this would happen. Now it's open season in my opinion. You can't allow one and not another. I don't blame Josephs because it's been done before and it will be done again. Fair play to any club who turned a lad away on principle, but there's too much underhanded stuff going on in Laois. If you don't play the game, chances are you get left behind. Daly wanted to play with Jospehs. Always bear that in mind before having a go at Jospehs
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Laois fan on July 06, 2017, 01:34:56 PM


If the rule was implemented properly when the Kingstons transferred, none of this would happen. Now it's open season in my opinion. You can't allow one and not another. I don't blame Josephs because it's been done before and it will be done again. Fair play to any club who turned a lad away on principle, but there's too much underhanded stuff going on in Laois. If you don't play the game, chances are you get left behind. Daly wanted to play with Jospehs. Always bear that in mind before having a go at Jospehs
Alot of players would like to play for plaois doesnt mean they can
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: High Fielder on July 06, 2017, 02:01:03 PM
Daly wanted to play for Josephs. He got his wish. What's your point?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on July 06, 2017, 02:11:45 PM
Daly wanted to play for Josephs. He got his wish. What's your point?
Daly did all the running and Josephs backed it, as any club would in the same circumstances.
Not true. Clubs have told lads to feck off before. I know of cases where lads have been politely told to stay where they are. Decent players too.
Joseph's have been lousy here to a club that propped up their underage teams for years.

If the rule was implemented properly when the Kingstons transferred, none of this would happen. Now it's open season in my opinion. You can't allow one and not another. I don't blame Josephs because it's been done before and it will be done again. Fair play to any club who turned a lad away on principle, but there's too much underhanded stuff going on in Laois. If you don't play the game, chances are you get left behind. Daly wanted to play with Jospehs. Always bear that in mind before having a go at Jospehs
None of which excuses Joseph's behaviour. They have screwed a club that was very good to them over the years.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BallyroanAbu on July 06, 2017, 02:30:31 PM
Arles/barrowhouse coming to a pitch near you. 
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on July 06, 2017, 02:45:33 PM
Arles/barrowhouse coming to a pitch near you.
It's already in place at underage level, isn't it? Na Fianna or something like that
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: High Fielder on July 06, 2017, 03:03:17 PM
Daly wanted to play for Josephs. He got his wish. What's your point?
Daly did all the running and Josephs backed it, as any club would in the same circumstances.
Not true. Clubs have told lads to feck off before. I know of cases where lads have been politely told to stay where they are. Decent players too.
Joseph's have been lousy here to a club that propped up their underage teams for years.

If the rule was implemented properly when the Kingstons transferred, none of this would happen. Now it's open season in my opinion. You can't allow one and not another. I don't blame Josephs because it's been done before and it will be done again. Fair play to any club who turned a lad away on principle, but there's too much underhanded stuff going on in Laois. If you don't play the game, chances are you get left behind. Daly wanted to play with Jospehs. Always bear that in mind before having a go at Jospehs
None of which excuses Joseph's behaviour. They have screwed a club that was very good to them over the years.

Do you feel the same about every transfer? Or just this one? Is it of for instance ok for Ballinakill to take Lir McDonald?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on July 06, 2017, 03:44:43 PM
Daly wanted to play for Josephs. He got his wish. What's your point?
Daly did all the running and Josephs backed it, as any club would in the same circumstances.
Not true. Clubs have told lads to feck off before. I know of cases where lads have been politely told to stay where they are. Decent players too.
Joseph's have been lousy here to a club that propped up their underage teams for years.

If the rule was implemented properly when the Kingstons transferred, none of this would happen. Now it's open season in my opinion. You can't allow one and not another. I don't blame Josephs because it's been done before and it will be done again. Fair play to any club who turned a lad away on principle, but there's too much underhanded stuff going on in Laois. If you don't play the game, chances are you get left behind. Daly wanted to play with Jospehs. Always bear that in mind before having a go at Jospehs
None of which excuses Joseph's behaviour. They have screwed a club that was very good to them over the years.

Do you feel the same about every transfer? Or just this one? Is it of for instance ok for Ballinakill to take Lir McDonald?
Honestly don't know much about that case. But where the original club objects to transfer, I'd generally side with them. A genuine change of address is fair enough, I'd have thought.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: High Fielder on July 06, 2017, 03:49:52 PM
In the three cases spoken about in relation to Barrowhouse, there will be no physical change of address. That is a fact. Your ire should be directed at the CB for allowing the initial transfer. They opened the can of worms
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on July 06, 2017, 04:13:42 PM
Not alone is this transfer debatable the Kingstons transfer is also debatable, as is the two transfers to Kileen last year from Spink, Dunphy and kelly, This chap who transferred from St Josephs to Ballinakill is also very debatable. Anyone remember the Bowe, Langton and ramsbottom transfers from Park to stradbally.That was very debateable back then although we didnt have social media those days. Can anyone tell me the difference between Dalys transfer and the above mentioned.Id like if those who are so vocal about Dalys to comment.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on July 06, 2017, 05:41:42 PM
This is only the tip of the Iceberg

Go down to underage,minor 16 and 14 particularly in hurling and you have all sorts of shenanigans going on,no one seems to bother with transfers at that age group,it's a free for all.

Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on July 06, 2017, 06:39:09 PM
This is only the tip of the Iceberg

Go down to underage,minor 16 and 14 particularly in hurling and you have all sorts of shenanigans going on,no one seems to bother with transfers at that age group,it's a free for all.
Not familiar with the hurling side but something may be done about this whole transfer system. Even at inter county level the system is so open/free for all its beyond incredible. I know of some who moved counties ( to play club ) on an inter county transfer and never left their home county at any stage.
On another note Id say the higher authorities are not too smitten with our CB. I think our CB had to foot all expenses taken by individuals to the DRA this year. That annoys me. I am one of many who buy all county tickets etc and support  functions etc. Hard raised funds going to pay DRA expenses !!. 
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: High Fielder on July 06, 2017, 06:47:27 PM
Their legal advice must have been poor Monument. They gave illegal transfers and then tried to block more illegal transfers. Only in Laois
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on July 06, 2017, 07:09:57 PM
Not alone is this transfer debatable the Kingstons transfer is also debatable, as is the two transfers to Kileen last year from Spink, Dunphy and kelly, This chap who transferred from St Josephs to Ballinakill is also very debatable. Anyone remember the Bowe, Langton and ramsbottom transfers from Park to stradbally.That was very debateable back then although we didnt have social media those days. Can anyone tell me the difference between Dalys transfer and the above mentioned.Id like if those who are so vocal about Dalys to comment.
100% agreed. Stradbally screwed over Park every bit as badly back in the day. Neither of those chaps should have been allowed leave Spink either. Or the 2 Graigue lads playing with Killeen. All those moves stank.
There's probably more on the hurling side that I'm not familiar with.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The PRO on July 06, 2017, 07:22:35 PM
Not alone is this transfer debatable the Kingstons transfer is also debatable, as is the two transfers to Kileen last year from Spink, Dunphy and kelly, This chap who transferred from St Josephs to Ballinakill is also very debatable. Anyone remember the Bowe, Langton and ramsbottom transfers from Park to stradbally.That was very debateable back then although we didnt have social media those days. Can anyone tell me the difference between Dalys transfer and the above mentioned.Id like if those who are so vocal about Dalys to comment.
100% agreed. Stradbally screwed over Park every bit as badly back in the day. Neither of those chaps should have been allowed leave Spink either. Or the 2 Graigue lads playing with Killeen. All those moves stank.
There's probably more on the hurling side that I'm not familiar with.
Danny Donoghue Harps to Ballyroan
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: HURLING1 on July 06, 2017, 09:07:26 PM
What a farce. It looks like the CB did more harm than good with their intervention. The Barrowhouse club is getting a raw deal out of this, and its members now have to watch three footballers going to other clubs to play their football. It's obvious reading the above that Daly did all the running and Josephs backed it, as any club would in the same circumstances. The CB have seriously let down Barrowhouse with their failed intervention. They have also failed as a Board to put in place a provision that ensures Senior football is available to everyone whilst simultaneously allowing a lad to stay with his home club. All in all, another embarrassing episode. If this was going on elsewhere, heads would be rolling. What has happened here could be the difference between Barrowhouse staying up or going down. If they do go down, they could argue that Daly wouldn't have got the transfer but for the CB's failed intervention. Interesting stuff
Well put together HF
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Pablo Escobar on July 11, 2017, 10:30:13 AM
http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/sport/259140/daly-transfer-goes-through-despite-concerns-raised-over-validity-of-permanent-residence.html#.WWSYzunyRSQ.twitter

How did he get this transfer. The evidence would overwhelmingly suggest he is not living in this derelict house.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: O moore parklife on July 11, 2017, 10:51:12 AM
http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/sport/259140/daly-transfer-goes-through-despite-concerns-raised-over-validity-of-permanent-residence.html#.WWSYzunyRSQ.twitter

How did he get this transfer. The evidence would overwhelmingly suggest he is not living in this derelict house.
Just read it myself farcical stuff. The independent committee set up would really have to be looked at.
The lad daly will have a stigma attached to him for good unfortunately for him..
You have to admire club men who stick with a smaller club out of pride to themselves the likes of donoher with courtwood and the likes.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on July 11, 2017, 02:05:23 PM
http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/sport/259140/daly-transfer-goes-through-despite-concerns-raised-over-validity-of-permanent-residence.html#.WWSYzunyRSQ.twitter

How did he get this transfer. The evidence would overwhelmingly suggest he is not living in this derelict house.
Nothing new Pablo.I heard of one particular half built derelict house used in Kileen to facilitate transfer(s) with briers and bushes growing out the window. Do you know anything about that Pablo.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Pablo Escobar on July 11, 2017, 02:08:45 PM
No derelict houses down here. We have two housing estates for these things 😉
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on July 11, 2017, 02:49:25 PM
No derelict houses down here. We have two housing estates for these things 😉
Good man Pablo. At least now we know the motive of your whinge. Im sure the Josephs lads on here are in titters.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Pablo Escobar on July 11, 2017, 04:42:01 PM
At least hook that man up with a proper electricity supply. If we get a bad winter the poor chap will perish with the cold.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on July 11, 2017, 06:06:27 PM
After reading that article and the other transfer tales in the past 10/15 years here in Laois

Let's call a spade a spade

If you want to transfer,you will get one.

Nevermind the rule book and the various refusals you might get from the various committees.

Plough on

You will eventually get your wish.

Now I'm off to tap up a few promising underage prospects in neighboring clubs.

You don't even have to be living in a parish to play underage hurling with another parish team at this stage (and no,I'm not talking about isolated players)
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Dave like the tv channel on July 11, 2017, 06:14:52 PM
After reading that article and the other transfer tales in the past 10/15 years here in Laois

Let's call a spade a spade

If you want to transfer,you will get one.

Nevermind the rule book and the various refusals you might get from the various committees.

Plough on

You will eventually get your wish.

Now I'm off to tap up a few promising underage prospects in neighboring clubs.

You don't even have to be living in a parish to play underage hurling with another parish team at this stage (and no,I'm not talking about isolated players)

Until a lad was refused a transfer to my club, on the basis of an address. He is genuinely living there (and has been for a good while), but it's all in his sister's name.

Sure, an esb bill for a cowshed was accepted in a case I know about. Apparently, a family of five living in a field.

Genuine case - turned down.
Fake esb bills - accepted.

Because....#countyboard.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: High Fielder on July 11, 2017, 07:23:58 PM
The CB had some neck trying to stop Daly's transfer in view of all that has gone before. Did they have to pay the costs for their failed intervention? Barrowhouse should put in a vote of no confidence in the entire CB. How does a small club like that promote the GAA when three of its best players in the last number of years were granted illegal transfers? Little wonder we're in the mess we're in right now
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on July 11, 2017, 07:41:59 PM
After reading that article and the other transfer tales in the past 10/15 years here in Laois

Let's call a spade a spade

If you want to transfer,you will get one.

Nevermind the rule book and the various refusals you might get from the various committees.

Plough on

You will eventually get your wish.

Now I'm off to tap up a few promising underage prospects in neighboring clubs.

You don't even have to be living in a parish to play underage hurling with another parish team at this stage (and no,I'm not talking about isolated players)

Until a lad was refused a transfer to my club, on the basis of an address. He is genuinely living there (and has been for a good while), but it's all in his sister's name.

Sure, an esb bill for a cowshed was accepted in a case I know about. Apparently, a family of five living in a field.

Genuine case - turned down.
Fake esb bills - accepted.

Because....#countyboard.

Well Dave

If at first you don't succeed..............


Get more creative in your approach and plough on
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Ballygowen on July 11, 2017, 11:03:49 PM
Obviously no one want to see someone transfer from their club to another club, especially when your own club is a small rural one. But my question is, what do you do if a player wants to transfer clubs? Dennoy them that opportunity and make them play with you when they don’t want too? Which could result in them not playing at all. I do realise that there has to be restrictions in it or it would be like the premiership with players bouncing from one club to another. But  if a player is looking for a transfer there must be some reason for it, perhaps if they collaborated the reasons behind the requests for transfers they may be able to solve the issue. I presume most transfers from small clubs to larger clubs is to play senior/higher grade, so the CB should give these players an outlet to play at a higher grade (Gaels teams/Divisional team) but still play for their own club. Probably easier said than done though.   
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: redsetanta on July 12, 2017, 12:43:08 AM
Sure that was tried and clubs because of their own self interest turned it down. When you have underage amalgamations there will always be players like Daly wanting to make the move.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 13, 2018, 09:33:55 PM
Does anyone know the rules around club transfers. If a club disagrees to a transfer is the player free to go after a period of inactivity despite the objection
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BallyroanAbu on January 13, 2018, 09:50:35 PM
No regardless of last time you played club is entitled to object.  The address rule is the one that seems indisputable in Laois.  The others are open to argument.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The PRO on January 13, 2018, 10:02:21 PM
Does anyone know the rules around club transfers. If a club disagrees to a transfer is the player free to go after a period of inactivity despite the objection
you seem to be from Derry. This sub forum probably isn't the best place to find out what you're looking for.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on January 13, 2018, 10:05:41 PM
Thanks lads. I'll start another thread
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on January 15, 2018, 10:32:14 AM
Thanks lads. I'll start another thread
If you have any problems the DRA Sceilp will help you
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BobbyBoucherJr on January 31, 2018, 07:07:01 AM
Deadline day, very quiet on the transfer front this year
 Any last minute deals?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on January 31, 2018, 11:02:58 AM
Deadline day, very quiet on the transfer front this year
 Any last minute deals?
Only one i heard of is the possible transfer of a former St Josephs player to Portlaoise. It was doing the rounds at the Limerick match. 
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: portlaoisekid on January 31, 2018, 04:27:45 PM
Cant put a name to this one TBH
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on January 31, 2018, 04:32:04 PM
Cant put a name to this one TBH
PJ Dempsey. Still has something to offer imho.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Toomanygaels on February 05, 2018, 12:24:39 PM
Interesting to see a player looking to transfer from his clubs this year to "Further his Football Career" even though he played senior championship last year. Surely will be refused???
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on February 05, 2018, 12:31:52 PM
Interesting to see a player looking to transfer from his clubs this year to "Further his Football Career" even though he played senior championship last year. Surely will be refused???
If his club have no objections, no one else should. Everyone knows where their priority lies when it comes to both codes. The only shame is he’s going to the one club who shouldn’t need any transfer but are constantly on the lookout for young talent of late rather than concentrating on maximizing their already vast numerical advantage.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Toomanygaels on February 05, 2018, 12:49:20 PM
Interesting to see a player looking to transfer from his clubs this year to "Further his Football Career" even though he played senior championship last year. Surely will be refused???
If his club have no objections, no one else should. Everyone knows where their priority lies when it comes to both codes. The only shame is he’s going to the one club who shouldn’t need any transfer but are constantly on the lookout for young talent of late rather than concentrating on maximizing their already vast numerical advantage.

I dont think he should be let transfer to Portlaoise. Either he stays playing with Camross and Ballyfin or he should try and transfer to some other club bar Portlaoise.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on February 05, 2018, 12:56:58 PM
Interesting to see a player looking to transfer from his clubs this year to "Further his Football Career" even though he played senior championship last year. Surely will be refused???
If his club have no objections, no one else should. Everyone knows where their priority lies when it comes to both codes. The only shame is he’s going to the one club who shouldn’t need any transfer but are constantly on the lookout for young talent of late rather than concentrating on maximizing their already vast numerical advantage.

I dont think he should be let transfer to Portlaoise. Either he stays playing with Camross and Ballyfin or he should try and transfer to some other club bar Portlaoise.
Agreed
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BallyroanAbu on February 05, 2018, 01:05:47 PM
Interesting to see a player looking to transfer from his clubs this year to "Further his Football Career" even though he played senior championship last year. Surely will be refused???
If his club have no objections, no one else should. Everyone knows where their priority lies when it comes to both codes. The only shame is he’s going to the one club who shouldn’t need any transfer but are constantly on the lookout for young talent of late rather than concentrating on maximizing their already vast numerical advantage.


I dont think he should be let transfer to Portlaoise. Either he stays playing with Camross and Ballyfin or he should try and transfer to some other club bar Portlaoise.
Agreed


He won't get a transfer on these grounds, he obviously has put this transfer with no help from Portlaoise as this would have no chance of getting through on those grounds and Portlaoise  would have realized that. 
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on February 05, 2018, 01:41:26 PM
Are camross still part of gaels for this year with Ballyfin it is it just with slieve Bloom?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on February 05, 2018, 03:06:11 PM
Interesting to see a player looking to transfer from his clubs this year to "Further his Football Career" even though he played senior championship last year. Surely will be refused???
If his club have no objections, no one else should. Everyone knows where their priority lies when it comes to both codes. The only shame is he’s going to the one club who shouldn’t need any transfer but are constantly on the lookout for young talent of late rather than concentrating on maximizing their already vast numerical advantage.


I dont think he should be let transfer to Portlaoise. Either he stays playing with Camross and Ballyfin or he should try and transfer to some other club bar Portlaoise.
Agreed


He won't get a transfer on these grounds, he obviously has put this transfer with no help from Portlaoise as this would have no chance of getting through on those grounds and Portlaoise  would have realized that.
Rubbish. The Portlaoise secretary would have signed the transfer form. If that's not helping, I don't know what is.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on February 05, 2018, 03:14:21 PM
Interesting to see a player looking to transfer from his clubs this year to "Further his Football Career" even though he played senior championship last year. Surely will be refused???
If his club have no objections, no one else should. Everyone knows where their priority lies when it comes to both codes. The only shame is he’s going to the one club who shouldn’t need any transfer but are constantly on the lookout for young talent of late rather than concentrating on maximizing their already vast numerical advantage.


I dont think he should be let transfer to Portlaoise. Either he stays playing with Camross and Ballyfin or he should try and transfer to some other club bar Portlaoise.
Agreed


He won't get a transfer on these grounds, he obviously has put this transfer with no help from Portlaoise as this would have no chance of getting through on those grounds and Portlaoise  would have realized that.
Rubbish. The Portlaoise secretary would have signed the transfer form. If that's not helping, I don't know what is.

Have Portlaoise a secretary? Chairman? Treasurer?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BallyroanAbu on February 05, 2018, 03:39:03 PM
Nobody from Portlaoise needs to sign anything .
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The PRO on February 05, 2018, 03:52:22 PM
Nobody from Portlaoise needs to sign anything .
So Portlaoise know nothing about this and didn't give the lad a hand with the paperwork? Hmm.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Unlaoised on February 05, 2018, 03:53:29 PM
Portlaoise have been asking about this boy for a while I heard.

It's a pity
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on February 05, 2018, 03:54:56 PM
Under the current bye laws

Rural to Rural transfers are ok

But rural to urban (Portlaoise being the only designated urban club in the county) are subject to a number of criteria being meet.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Bueller on February 05, 2018, 03:57:08 PM
Under the current bye laws

Rural to Rural transfers are ok

But rural to urban (Portlaoise being the only designated urban club in the county) are subject to a number of criteria being meet.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on February 05, 2018, 04:02:56 PM
Under the current bye laws

Rural to Rural transfers are ok

But rural to urban (Portlaoise being the only designated urban club in the county) are subject to a number of criteria being meet.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Well thems the rules,it’s easy being cynical given what went on in the Rafter case,but sooner or later the County Board will have to enforce its own rules or rip them up and give Portlaoise a free reign.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BallyroanAbu on February 05, 2018, 04:03:35 PM
I seriously doubt anyone in Portlaoise has anything to do with this.  They are well aware of the criteria.

If they did I am sure they would have filled in something that he may possibly have qualified under, rather than something that will 100% be turned down. 

Portlaoise most definitely know the rules.

Portlaoise are an exception to the rules also having the possibility of Urban to Rural, which only Portlaoise qualify under, that being Portlaoise cannot object to players wanting to transfer out for any reason.  The rest of us can object to player transfers.  Rural to Rural come under the normal criteria within Laois bye laws as do Rural to Urban.  I am always surprised more clubs cannot avail of this possibility I suppose it's because of Portlaoise success not too many want to leave.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: High Fielder on February 05, 2018, 04:43:45 PM
Are we talking about Sean Moore here?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The PRO on February 05, 2018, 05:59:01 PM
Are we talking about Sean Moore here?
No. A Camross footballer.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on February 05, 2018, 06:24:36 PM
Are we talking about Sean Moore here?
No. A Camross footballer.


Will that include hurling with Portlaoise aswell is transfer goes in?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The PRO on February 05, 2018, 06:55:15 PM
Are we talking about Sean Moore here?
No. A Camross footballer.


Will that include hurling with Portlaoise aswell is transfer goes in?
It would have to. He is looking to transfer from one dual club to another. I don't know if he hurls much?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Helix on February 05, 2018, 07:15:24 PM
Are we talking about Sean Moore here?
No. A Camross footballer.


Will that include hurling with Portlaoise aswell is transfer goes in?
It would have to. He is looking to transfer from one dual club to another. I don't know if he hurls much?

Hurled intermediate for Camross be an addition for Portlaoise.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BallyroanAbu on February 05, 2018, 07:46:19 PM
It's not going to happen so not worth worrying about.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Uisce on February 06, 2018, 08:44:07 AM
So presuming his transfer gets turned down, (farcical if it wasn't) he now has no access to senior football?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: portlaoisekid on February 06, 2018, 08:51:34 AM
Not going to happen, player 100% drove the transfer and wanted to transfer last year but CB said no chance so he ended up with Ballyfin. Nothing has changed.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: High Fielder on February 06, 2018, 10:47:02 AM
I seem to remember a post on here about a young lad who wanted to play for Ballinakill and his reasons were something similar i.e to play at senior level. Didn't that get ratified? I don't know how any transfer in Laois can be refused after everything that happened in Barrowhouse in recent times. All three of those lads still live in Barrowhouse and the whole county knows it. They just play with neighbouring clubs, and not even the same ones.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: BallyroanAbu on February 06, 2018, 10:49:32 AM
But the application was on address grounds which meets the criteria, wanting to improve your standard of football does not.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on February 06, 2018, 10:50:37 AM
I seem to remember a post on here about a young lad who wanted to play for Ballinakill and his reasons were something similar i.e to play at senior level. Didn't that get ratified? I don't know how any transfer in Laois can be refused after everything that happened in Barrowhouse in recent times. All three of those lads still live in Barrowhouse and the whole county knows it. They just play with neighbouring clubs, and not even the same ones.
Its almost like you knew the answer to that question you were asking.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: High Fielder on February 06, 2018, 12:44:12 PM
If the lad wants the transfer, he will get it. Simple as that. He might have to work hard to do so, but eventually he will get over the line. The CB set a ridiculous precedent with the Kingstons and made a hames of trying to row back on it when Daly went to Josephs. Someone will no doubt come back at me with some obscure bye law, but the damage is done and has been done a long time ago. It was reckless, immoral and plain stupid what was done against Barrowhouse, and their officers should never tire of telling them so.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: portlaoisekid on February 07, 2018, 08:51:17 AM
Why are there deleted posts on this thread? My last post yesterday is gone. Did it all kick off or what?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: clonadmad on February 07, 2018, 10:30:19 AM
Looks like someone went upstairs and complained all right,was harmless enough from what I could see
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on February 07, 2018, 10:47:30 AM
Why are there deleted posts on this thread? My last post yesterday is gone. Did it all kick off or what?
It got fierce nasty, phone calls were even exchanged.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: portlaoisekid on February 07, 2018, 01:16:49 PM
 ::) ::)
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Laoiseabu on February 08, 2018, 01:52:00 AM
So the Camross lad going to play for Portlaoise is Robert Tyrell?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on February 08, 2018, 02:10:14 AM
So the Camross lad going to play for Portlaoise is Robert Tyrell?
No, Tis Zane
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Unlaoised on February 08, 2018, 04:30:46 PM
Scott Conroy is back with Ballyroan he will be a useful addition to them a strong clever player who can kick a score didn't he score for London v wexford in 2016
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The PRO on February 13, 2018, 02:31:22 PM
Scott Conroy is back with Ballyroan he will be a useful addition to them a strong clever player who can kick a score didn't he score for London v wexford in 2016
Yeah and McMahon more available to them too having left Laois squad.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on February 13, 2018, 07:35:55 PM
I see Arles have picked up a very good player in PJ Lawlor of Dr Crimes. A garda in Portlaoise I hear.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on February 14, 2018, 10:29:05 AM
I see Arles have picked up a very good player in PJ Lawlor of Dr Crimes. A garda in Portlaoise I hear.
Portlaoise won't like that one bit.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: redsetanta on February 14, 2018, 11:39:30 AM
A Kerryman with strong Laois connections.

Sure Crosbie had our best footballers sent to Kerry in the 17th century. No wonder Kerry are so good, it's the Laois bloodline

https://www.omahonys.ie/from-laois-to-kerry-p-482696.html (https://www.omahonys.ie/from-laois-to-kerry-p-482696.html)
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Keyser Söze on February 14, 2018, 11:56:42 AM
I see Arles have picked up a very good player in PJ Lawlor of Dr Crimes. A garda in Portlaoise I hear.
Portlaoise won't like that one bit.

Could be one for the DRA!
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: portlaoisekid on February 14, 2018, 01:56:28 PM
I see Arles have picked up a very good player in PJ Lawlor of Dr Crimes. A garda in Portlaoise I hear.
Portlaoise won't like that one bit.
Sure I thought we are not allowed transfers so as to keep the rest of the county sweet?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on February 14, 2018, 03:13:24 PM
I see Arles have picked up a very good player in PJ Lawlor of Dr Crimes. A garda in Portlaoise I hear.
Portlaoise won't like that one bit.
Sure I thought we are not allowed transfers so as to keep the rest of the county sweet?
You’d be mistaken, have a word with your top table.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: CruiseCigar on February 14, 2018, 10:55:46 PM
Nice transfer for Arles alright
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The PRO on February 14, 2018, 11:34:48 PM
Nice transfer for Arles alright
They will need more than him I think. Getting very old as a team with not many coming through.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: OTF on February 15, 2018, 11:35:43 AM
A Kerryman with strong Laois connections.

Sure Crosbie had our best footballers sent to Kerry in the 17th century. No wonder Kerry are so good, it's the Laois bloodline

https://www.omahonys.ie/from-laois-to-kerry-p-482696.html (https://www.omahonys.ie/from-laois-to-kerry-p-482696.html)

I've used that argument a number of time, late at night it has to be said. Yes and to north Kerry around Tarbert..... hardy boys around there.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: SCFC on February 20, 2018, 09:36:51 AM
I see Adam Ryan's transfer back to Port from St Judes gone through.
Don't know the story there but he was one of the finest underage players in many years. Would be a big boost to Port to have him on board and firing on all cylinders. Only 25 or so.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Unlaoised on February 20, 2018, 10:52:58 AM
I see Adam Ryan's transfer back to Port from St Judes gone through.
Don't know the story there but he was one of the finest underage players in many years. Would be a big boost to Port to have him on board and firing on all cylinders. Only 25 or so.

He was superb as a minor and when he broke on to what was a poor Port team a few years ago he was head and shoulders their best player even at that tneder young age.

Hope he gets back to some sort of form like that and he has plenty of time!
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: redsetanta on February 23, 2018, 01:58:11 PM
Ryan is a good addition to that Port team. They are coming along nicely these past few years and there was very little between themselves and Ballylinan. Can be challengers if they keep progressing.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on March 24, 2018, 11:36:12 AM
Barrow house losing another of their top players to a senior club. ..not as much as a whimper from the ColumbIan about it either. .let's hear from you Pablo.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on March 24, 2018, 08:12:56 PM
Barrow house losing another of their top players to a senior club. ..not as much as a whimper from the ColumbIan about it either. .let's hear from you Pablo.
Whats this now?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: burdizzo on March 24, 2018, 09:14:13 PM
Scott Conroy is back with Ballyroan he will be a useful addition to them a strong clever player who can kick a score didn't he score for London v wexford in 2016

Hurling for 'picas, too, I believe.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: O moore parklife on March 24, 2018, 09:29:46 PM
A new recruit for Graigcullen.

Barrow house losing another of their top players to a senior club. ..not as much as a whimper from the ColumbIan about it either. .let's hear from you Pablo.
Whats this now?
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The PRO on March 25, 2018, 05:40:55 PM
Barrow house losing another of their top players to a senior club. ..not as much as a whimper from the ColumbIan about it either. .let's hear from you Pablo.
Whats this now?
Eric Mackey
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The Monument Road on September 16, 2018, 07:34:28 PM
Not traking up old coals but I think it needs saying...Brian Dalys desire to join a senior club is beginning to bear fruit...he looks like a very good senior player after training and playing   with St Joseph's
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: Don Draper on September 16, 2018, 10:16:23 PM
Not traking up old coals but I think it needs saying...Brian Dalys desire to join a senior club is beginning to bear fruit...he looks like a very good senior player after training and playing   with St Joseph's

Mother of f**k.
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: High Fielder on September 17, 2018, 08:09:43 AM
Not traking up old coals but I think it needs saying...Brian Dalys desire to join a senior club is beginning to bear fruit...he looks like a very good senior player after training and playing   with St Joseph's

Yes it appears to be the way to go alright. Maybe someone should suggest it to Eoin Dunne in Rosenallis and Rob Tyrell in Camross. Maybe Hitchcock in Ratheniska too? No point messing around in Junior and Intermediate. Senior football is where it's at.  8)
Title: Re: Club transfers
Post by: The PRO on September 17, 2018, 04:17:50 PM
Not traking up old coals but I think it needs saying
Yes. Raking up old coals is exactly what you're doing.