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Title: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on February 26, 2012, 06:13:56 PM
McIlroy beats Westwood 3 and 1 to advance to the Accenture Match Play final against Hunter Mahan.  A win against Mahan will make him the World's #1, I believe.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on February 26, 2012, 06:16:36 PM
Oi! Use the official golf thread
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on February 26, 2012, 06:31:55 PM
Got me there, Orior.  Will do when all soccer threads are consolidated.  Expect censure from the PSNI (Posts Sent Nowhere In particular).
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Shamrock Shore on February 26, 2012, 07:34:58 PM
Are the risk of a paddling from the thread police is there anywhere I can watch the final online?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on February 26, 2012, 07:48:19 PM
Veetle is always good for Golf streams Shamrock
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: mick999 on February 26, 2012, 07:55:56 PM
Streams here : http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=143419&part=sports

Or here: http://mypremium.tv/  then select sky sports 2 ...
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on February 26, 2012, 07:56:07 PM
AS thru 3.  Rory lipped out a gimme on the 1st.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on February 26, 2012, 08:11:06 PM
AS thru 4.  Rory lucky to split.  Drove tee shot into desert scrub.  Took a drop.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on February 26, 2012, 08:28:14 PM
Mahan 1-Up after 6
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on February 26, 2012, 08:40:50 PM
School boy error from Rory. He is now two down.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tubberman on February 26, 2012, 08:53:15 PM
Ragged stuff from mcilroy so far. An awful long day, playing semi and final back to back.
He could be 3 down soon after that shot
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stephenite on February 26, 2012, 08:55:10 PM
Just coming up on 8am Monday morning and arrived into the office, if some kind soul could keep this thread updated with latest score 'twould be appreciated.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on February 26, 2012, 08:55:51 PM
Bad decisions and bad swungs
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on February 26, 2012, 08:57:36 PM
Yep. 3-down
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Carmen Stateside on February 26, 2012, 08:58:08 PM
Bad decisions and bad swungs
Mahan not playing that well either.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on February 26, 2012, 08:58:16 PM
He gifted that last one to Mahan too.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on February 26, 2012, 09:00:35 PM
Hey Boss!
Check out Stephenite.
He is not working
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on February 26, 2012, 09:02:10 PM
If McIlroy continues like this he will have to forget about winning holes and go for goals instead.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on February 26, 2012, 09:11:20 PM
Rory 3-down at the turn.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on February 26, 2012, 09:20:24 PM
About to go 4 down after 10
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on February 26, 2012, 09:21:49 PM
4 down now.  Looks like Sin a bhfuil anocht, a chairde.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on February 26, 2012, 09:22:01 PM
Can't really see Mahan letting Rory back into this at all.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on February 26, 2012, 09:34:12 PM
Phenomenal chip-in by Rory.  Bleeding stopped.  3-down now.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Carmen Stateside on February 26, 2012, 09:34:24 PM
Nice eagle!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on February 26, 2012, 09:43:50 PM
3-down thru 12.  You can't start your work now, Stephenite.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on February 26, 2012, 09:59:12 PM
3-down thru 13.  Mahan saved a nifty split there.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on February 26, 2012, 10:10:10 PM
now 2-down thru 14.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tubberman on February 26, 2012, 10:11:26 PM
Needs to win the next one to put real pressure on mahan
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 26, 2012, 10:13:07 PM
now 2-down thru 14.
Mahan gonna fill the togs?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on February 26, 2012, 10:20:30 PM
Crappy eagle try, Rory.  2-down thru 15.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tubberman on February 26, 2012, 10:21:12 PM
now 2-down thru 14.
Mahan gonna fill the togs?

Doesn't look like it. Halved the hole. Mcilroy is 2 down with only 3 left
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Minder on February 26, 2012, 10:27:43 PM
now 2-down thru 14.
Mahan gonna fill the togs?

Doesn't look like it. Halved the hole. Mcilroy is 2 down with only 3 left

& at worst will halve this hole you would think.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tubberman on February 26, 2012, 10:30:11 PM
now 2-down thru 14.
Mahan gonna fill the togs?

Doesn't look like it. Halved the hole. Mcilroy is 2 down with only 3 left

& at worst will halve this hole you would think.

Very close to winning it there! Would have finished the match.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on February 26, 2012, 10:30:48 PM
2-down, 2 to go.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Minder on February 26, 2012, 10:41:28 PM
Mahan wins 2&1
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: gerrykeegan on February 26, 2012, 10:42:28 PM
Brutal effort, leaving it short,schoolboy error
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on February 26, 2012, 11:15:38 PM
Well sure, Rory should get to number one later this year.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: dillinger on February 27, 2012, 01:50:47 AM
Pity, that would have been another British golfer at number one. Come on now, you were waiting for someone to write that! :)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: leaveherinsir on February 27, 2012, 10:27:45 PM
Judging by some of the comments on last nights final,  i didnt realise so many professional golfers posted on here.  ;)
Some of you lads must be seriously good at (spouting crap), sorry golf!!  :D
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Mikhail Prokhorov on March 01, 2012, 02:06:29 AM
anyone fancy rory this week?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Gazzler on March 01, 2012, 08:01:40 AM
anyone fancy rory this week?

Nah I'd rather his girlfriend.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: thejuice on March 06, 2012, 10:53:36 AM
World No. 1

fair play to him.

only 22.


What was I at when I was 22? Number 1 drunkard in Warrenstown college maybe. 
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on March 06, 2012, 11:09:34 AM
Yes its all fine and dandy being world number 1 golfer, but can he clean out calf houses or stook hay?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: johnneycool on March 06, 2012, 11:17:23 AM
Yes its all fine and dandy being world number 1 golfer, but can he clean out calf houses or stook hay?

He doesn't need to, if the money's right I'll do it for him.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: deiseach on March 06, 2012, 11:24:08 AM
Yes its all fine and dandy being world number 1 golfer, but can he clean out calf houses or stook hay?

And how would he do on a wet, windy Tuesday night in Cross?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AQMP on March 06, 2012, 11:46:03 AM
McIlroy tackles Sharapova

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/mar/06/rory-mcilroy-caroline-wozniacki-maria-sharapova
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Doogie Browser on March 06, 2012, 11:58:30 AM
They are going to become the Brangelina of golf and sicken the fcuk out of us.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Mikhail Prokhorov on March 06, 2012, 01:31:18 PM
turning into a circus
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: muppet on March 06, 2012, 02:58:50 PM
They are going to become the Brangelina of golf and sicken the fcuk out of us.

I think he will be more likely to go down the Georgie Best route with the girls. Lucky b'stard.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 06, 2012, 03:07:19 PM
They are going to become the Brangelina of golf and sicken the fcuk out of us.

I think he will be more likely to go down the Georgie Best route with the girls. Lucky b'stard.

He's only about 3 foot 6 tall, he'll hardly get that many women!!!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Olly on March 06, 2012, 03:11:18 PM
I bumped into Holly Sweeney the other day in Lidl in Holywood. I asked her how things were going and she said alright and walked away. I kept following her and asked her if she watched the Simpsons or Family Guy and she completely ignored me. To be honest, Rory is well rid of this stuck up young girl.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: screenexile on March 06, 2012, 03:19:24 PM
They are going to become the Brangelina of golf and sicken the fcuk out of us.

I think he will be more likely to go down the Georgie Best route with the girls. Lucky b'stard.

He's only about 3 foot 6 tall, he'll hardly get that many women!!!

Saw him in Ollies Christmas 2009 and couldn't believe how small he was. How in God's name does he generate the kind of power to smash the ball 300+ yards?!!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Olly on March 06, 2012, 03:22:21 PM


Saw him in Ollies Christmas 2009 and couldn't believe how small he was. How in God's name does he generate the kind of power to smash the ball 300+ yards?!!

Piss off. I think I'd remember.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on March 06, 2012, 03:23:15 PM
Just what the world needs another shit post about McIroy. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tubberman on March 06, 2012, 03:40:09 PM
Yeah, 22 year old Irishman is world number 1 in one of the most watched sports on the planet - can't believe people are talking about it....
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: screenexile on March 06, 2012, 03:44:11 PM


Saw him in Ollies Christmas 2009 and couldn't believe how small he was. How in God's name does he generate the kind of power to smash the ball 300+ yards?!!

Piss off. I think I'd remember.

I said Ollies not Olly's!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on March 06, 2012, 03:56:25 PM
Yeah, 22 year old Irishman is world number 1 in one of the most watched sports on the planet - can't believe people are talking about it....
Waste of a good walk.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 06, 2012, 03:58:23 PM


Saw him in Ollies Christmas 2009 and couldn't believe how small he was. How in God's name does he generate the kind of power to smash the ball 300+ yards?!!

Piss off. I think I'd remember.

I said Ollies not Olly's!

I bet Olly wouldn't mind if he was in and smashed his ball(s) 300+ yards..oh errr :-*

Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: ziggysego on March 06, 2012, 04:05:38 PM
They are going to become the Brangelina of golf and sicken the fcuk out of us.

I think he will be more likely to go down the Georgie Best route with the girls. Lucky b'stard.

He's only about 3 foot 6 tall, he'll hardly get that many women!!!

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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Maguire01 on March 06, 2012, 06:13:34 PM
I bumped into Holly Sweeney the other day in Lidl in Holywood. I asked her how things were going and she said alright and walked away. I kept following her and asked her if she watched the Simpsons or Family Guy and she completely ignored me. To be honest, Rory is well rid of this stuck up young girl.
Yes, that's believable. Like there'd be a Lidl in Holywood!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: muppet on March 06, 2012, 07:22:50 PM
They are going to become the Brangelina of golf and sicken the fcuk out of us.

I think he will be more likely to go down the Georgie Best route with the girls. Lucky b'stard.

He's only about 3 foot 6 tall, he'll hardly get that many women!!!

Best did alright for 5' 8''.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: DrinkingHarp on March 08, 2012, 06:25:45 PM
The Fitness Secret Of the World's #1 Golfer

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/training-day/201203/fitness-secret-worlds-no-1-golfer
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 09, 2012, 12:13:39 AM
Is 5 foot 10 considered really small these days? Thats Rorys height, he is not  a giant but hardly a dwarf   
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Arthur_Friend on March 09, 2012, 12:39:57 AM
The Fitness Secret Of the World's #1 Golfer

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/training-day/201203/fitness-secret-worlds-no-1-golfer

The fitness secret is he does strength training in the gym? Who'd have thought it..
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: ziggysego on March 09, 2012, 12:59:38 AM
Is 5 foot 10 considered really small these days? Thats Rorys height, he is not  a giant but hardly a dwarf

 :'(
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 10, 2012, 06:08:40 PM
Himself and Mc Dowell have had some start to the day playing together. -5 for each of them on the front nine. Both -8 for the tournament.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: gerrykeegan on March 11, 2012, 08:55:26 PM
rory going well tonight, you could have backed him at 40/1 on Friday morning
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 11, 2012, 09:45:56 PM
What hole they at Gerry?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: gerrykeegan on March 11, 2012, 09:47:37 PM
Rory on 18, he needs rose to f**k up, I have rose backed at 50/1, come on the English rose!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tubberman on March 11, 2012, 10:11:46 PM
Rory on 18, he needs rose to f**k up, I have rose backed at 50/1, come on the English rose!

You could be ran out of town for that ;-)

Great performance from Rory today, first round screwed it up for him though.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: gerrykeegan on March 11, 2012, 10:13:57 PM
I'll sing god save the f**king queen if  he holds on
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 11, 2012, 10:43:09 PM
I'll sing god save the f**king queen if  he holds on
How did it finish? McIlroy must be short odds for Augusta now.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: gerrykeegan on March 11, 2012, 10:48:47 PM
Rose wins by 1, happy f**king days,
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on March 11, 2012, 11:11:11 PM
Rory finished third place on his own, which cements his World Ranking. Not bad too after his first round.

Put his indifferenet performance of his first round down to getting a piece from Caroline up in New York.

PS. Got my own Worlding Ranking down a few notches at the weekend by playing under my handicap. At this pace I should be in the top 50 by the year 8267.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: 5 Sams on March 11, 2012, 11:22:48 PM
I'll sing god save the f**king queen if  he holds on

I'd say he'd know the words as well!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: dillinger on March 11, 2012, 11:40:36 PM
I'll sing god save the f**king queen if  he holds on

Don't forget to stand up now. ;)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Evil Genius on March 13, 2012, 11:06:04 PM
Touchdown! David Cameron wings in to Washington to meet President Obama at start of three-day U.S. tour

There will be a black tie state dinner for 1,000 at the White House, with prominent Britons such as golfer Rory McIlroy and actor Damian Lewis among the celebrities in attendance.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2114508/Touchdown-David-Cameron-wings-Washington-meet-President-Obama-start-day-U-S-tour.html#ixzz1p2bLD83L
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Leo on March 13, 2012, 11:35:22 PM
The small minded desire to make Rory a "briton" or indeed a "Paddy" (topical as that may be this week) is pathetic.
Like me I would suspect he is a British citizen, having been born in Northern Ireland. Fact of life.
Like me I suspect he has  a British passport - although nowadays all EU passports tend to be the same. (I also have an unused Irish passport and if you have  a few quid I can get one for your friend from Somalia in the morning).
Like me I would suspect that on first question as to his country oforigin he would say Ireland without any thought of narrow political affiliation.
And I would aslo suggest that like me he would find all this bollix tiresome in the extreme.
A young lad from these islands is the world's no. 1 in golf - now celebrate that without caveat or go dig yourself a hole.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Forever Green on March 13, 2012, 11:36:54 PM
He`s doing Ireland proud. Well done to him
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: 5 Sams on March 14, 2012, 04:58:15 PM
He`s doing Ireland proud. Well done to him

Like G Mac he's also cultivating a great American accent :-[
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: whitegoodman on March 14, 2012, 07:58:01 PM
He`s doing Ireland proud. Well done to him

Like G Mac he's also cultivating a great American accent :-[

You wouldnt see our Padraig at that craic, will always walk and talk like an ul irish farmer!!!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: 5 Sams on March 14, 2012, 11:02:52 PM
He`s doing Ireland proud. Well done to him

Like G Mac he's also cultivating a great American accent :-[

You wouldnt see our Padraig at that craic, will always walk and talk like an ul irish farmer!!!

Or Shane Lowry!!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Leo on March 14, 2012, 11:14:58 PM
He`s doing Ireland proud. Well done to him

Like G Mac he's also cultivating a great American accent :-[

You wouldnt see our Padraig at that craic, will always walk and talk like an ul irish farmer!!!

and lately, play like one too.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: balladmaker on March 15, 2012, 12:08:26 PM
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Like G Mac he's also cultivating a great American accent

Ah no, hope he's not getting a dose of the Wayne McCullough's! 

He's about to become one of the Words greatest ever sportsmen and he's from this island we live on, to be celebrated irrespective of what his political or religious beliefs are.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on March 15, 2012, 12:44:38 PM
But his hair is still shite.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: whitegoodman on March 15, 2012, 01:09:45 PM
To be fair there has been a slight improvement on the old shaggydoll look but he could still do with an appointment in Peter Mark.

Leo is right on Padraig, playing like a dog at the minute, just shows ya it is all in the mind.  Pity too as although he couldnt drive for shite he had one of the best short games about.  Probably still does in fact just cant keep the ball on the course.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: whitegoodman on March 15, 2012, 01:34:52 PM
He is -3 after 4 at the transitions championship............he must read this
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Rossfan on March 15, 2012, 01:42:25 PM

There will be a black tie state dinner for 1,000 at the White House, with prominent Britons such as golfer Rory McIlroy

Once he stops winning things he'll be Irish again ;D
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: 5 Sams on March 15, 2012, 02:59:50 PM
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Like G Mac he's also cultivating a great American accent

Ah no, hope he's not getting a dose of the Wayne McCullough's

He's about to become one of the Words greatest ever sportsmen and he's from this island we live on, to be celebrated irrespective of what his political or religious beliefs are.


Ahhh...Wayne...the "Packet Racket".
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AQMP on March 15, 2012, 03:54:35 PM
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Like G Mac he's also cultivating a great American accent

Ah no, hope he's not getting a dose of the Wayne McCullough's

He's about to become one of the Words greatest ever sportsmen and he's from this island we live on, to be celebrated irrespective of what his political or religious beliefs are.


Ahhh...Wayne...the "Packet Racket".

Werld's Chempion
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: CiKe on March 15, 2012, 08:40:36 PM
He is -3 after 4 at the transitions championship............he must read this
10 under for the round...not bad going that
Title: Rory McIlroy
Post by: 5 Sams on October 01, 2012, 11:43:50 PM
I'm running the risk of committing sacrilege here I know....but..he may be the best golfer in the world at the minute...he has done amazing stuff for Europe in the Ryder cup etc...but he has been under the spotlight big time over the last few days and I can't help but come to the conclusion that he's a bit of a tool. His mate Gee Mac isnt much better and maybe worse...

Anyone else find them to be annoying, spoilt, rich, mid atlantic speaking arseholes???
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: ziggysego on October 01, 2012, 11:48:12 PM
Bar the accent, he doesn't bother me.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Dougal Maguire on October 02, 2012, 01:36:09 AM
I'm running the risk of committing sacrilege here I know....but..he may be the best golfer in the world at the minute...he has done amazing stuff for Europe in the Ryder cup etc...but he has been under the spotlight big time over the last few days and I can't help but come to the conclusion that he's a bit of a tool. His mate Gee Mac isnt much better and maybe worse...

Anyone else find them to be annoying, spoilt, rich, mid atlantic speaking arseholes???

Yup, I do. Mind you I feel the same about every cnut in the premier league.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Armaghgeddon on October 02, 2012, 01:39:09 AM
I find their fake sounding accents amusing.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on October 02, 2012, 03:45:59 AM
Not really. He's a youngster excelling and he's keeping his feet on the ground much better than many young stars in other disciplines.

I actually prefer Gmac to be honest but it's not because I dislike Rory. What has Gmac done to incur the wrath?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Declan on October 02, 2012, 07:47:09 AM
I was thinking 5 Sams was a bot harsh alright and then I saw the time of his posting ;) - 
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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Saffrongael on October 02, 2012, 07:57:31 AM
I know a couple of guys that went up to the Pro-Am on the Wednesday of the Irish Open and were getting stuff signed by various players around the course, they said McIlroy and Clarke wouldn't give any of them the time of day and refused to sign anything, GMac was the total opposite, couldn't do enough for the fans.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on October 02, 2012, 08:40:25 AM
this debate is redundant until a flag is mentioned
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: nrico2006 on October 02, 2012, 09:19:07 AM
this debate is redundant until a flag is mentioned

Was just thinking that.

McIlroy seems a bit of a tool at times but I do think he carries himself well most of the time considering how young he is and the pressure on him.  I wouldn't have a bad word to say about McDowell, seems very likeable.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: trileacman on October 02, 2012, 10:33:43 AM
All I know is that I can think of at least 20 local GAA "stars" who have achieved alot less than these fella's and yet still carry themselves around like their dog's bollocks. See the splinter in your own eye.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: rosnarun on October 02, 2012, 10:53:01 AM
All I know is that I can think of at least 20 local GAA "stars" who have achieved alot less than these fella's and yet still carry themselves around like their dog's bollocks. See the splinter in your own eye.
who are you talking about  or is it just a general anti GAA rant
name and shame
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: T Fearon on October 02, 2012, 11:12:57 AM
Rory Mc Ilroy's maternal uncle was a prominent Armagh GAA star in the early 80s.Regarding flags etc in this neck of the woods,if you're a sports star you do what you have to do to suit th occasion (didn't Rangers fan Darren Clarke wrap himself in an Irish Tricolour at the end of the Ryder Cup at K Club in 2006?).
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on October 02, 2012, 11:17:59 AM
A good measure is this (and if you are old enough). How would you feel if Rory was your son?

I think he is quite simply the best ambassador that Irish golf has ever had. We will see whether he can reach the heights of Jack Nicholas.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: midLouth on October 02, 2012, 11:21:26 AM
A good measure is this (and if you are old enough). How would you feel if Rory was your son?

I think he is quite simply the best ambassador that Irish golf has ever had. We will see whether he can reach the heights of Jack Nicholas.

Do you really think he has a hope of emulating what Jack or even Tiger did? I just don't think it is possible any more to be doing what those guys did, look at the array of talent that was on show over the weekend. I don't know if that was there when those two were in their prime, I suppose only time will tell.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: ballinaman on October 02, 2012, 11:31:33 AM
Rory Mc Ilroy's maternal uncle was a prominent Armagh GAA star in the early 80s.Regarding flags etc in this neck of the woods,if you're a sports star you do what you have to do to suit th occasion (didn't Rangers fan Darren Clarke wrap himself in an Irish Tricolour at the end of the Ryder Cup at K Club in 2006?).
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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: NetNitrate on October 02, 2012, 12:04:43 PM
Rory Mc Ilroy's maternal uncle was a prominent Armagh GAA star in the early 80s.Regarding flags etc in this neck of the woods,if you're a sports star you do what you have to do to suit th occasion (didn't Rangers fan Darren Clarke wrap himself in an Irish Tricolour at the end of the Ryder Cup at K Club in 2006?).
Under the orange section.....

Do we know if Rory was covered more by the Gaelic, Norman, or British elements of that outlawed NI flag? Bloody invaders. I hate them all.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: 5 Sams on October 02, 2012, 12:58:47 PM
I was thinking 5 Sams was a bot harsh alright and then I saw the time of his posting ;) - 
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Reply #91 on: Today at 12:43:50 AM

Nah totally sober Dec. Watching the celebrations last night on Sky + and he just came acrosss as a "bot" of a knob.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on October 02, 2012, 01:08:55 PM
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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: rosnarun on October 02, 2012, 01:13:47 PM
its pretty simple in sport you choose what side your on and people from that side support you . politics is only confusing the matter .
 no one cheered when Nick Faldo or colin mountgomerie won Majors as they played for england So if Rory wants to play for england in the olympics then good luck to him but don't expect irish support .
just like if steven gerrard signed for Man UTD   how many lifelong Steven Gerrard/liverpool fans would still cheer him
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on October 02, 2012, 01:16:12 PM
its pretty simple in sport you choose what side your on and people from that side support you . politics is only confusing the matter .
 no one cheered when Nick Faldo or colin mountgomerie won Majors as they played for england So if Rory wants to play for england in the olympics then good luck to him but don't expect irish support .
just like if steven gerrard signed for Man UTD   how many lifelong Steven Gerrard/liverpool fans would still cheer him

No one cheered when Monty won a major because Monty never won a major.
And he is Scottish not English.
And there is no England in the Olympics it's Team GB.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Bingo on October 02, 2012, 01:18:44 PM
its pretty simple in sport you choose what side your on and people from that side support you . politics is only confusing the matter .
 no one cheered when Nick Faldo or colin mountgomerie won Majors as they played for england So if Rory wants to play for england in the olympics then good luck to him but don't expect irish support .
just like if steven gerrard signed for Man UTD   how many lifelong Steven Gerrard/liverpool fans would still cheer him

No one cheered when Monty won a major because Monty never won a major.
And he is Scottish not English.
And there is no England in the Olympics it's Team GB.

In fairness thats a good come back.

EC and Under the bra will be along in a minute to comment on the last comment, something along the lines of "Why would Man United sign Stevie Me, he is shit!"
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: LeoMc on October 02, 2012, 01:20:17 PM
its pretty simple in sport you choose what side your on and people from that side support you . politics is only confusing the matter .
 no one cheered when Nick Faldo or colin mountgomerie won Majors as they played for england So if Rory wants to play for england in the olympics then good luck to him but don't expect irish support .
just like if steven gerrard signed for Man UTD   how many lifelong Steven Gerrard/liverpool fans would still cheer him

No one cheered when Monty won a major because Monty never won a major.
And he is Scottish not English.
And there is no England in the Olympics it's Team GB.

I cheered on Conlan, Barnes and the Chambers brothers because of where they were from not because of who give them the best opportunity to compete. McIlroy & GMac will get the same consideration.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AZOffaly on October 02, 2012, 01:26:40 PM
If you are a NI fan, did you not cheer Lawrie Sanchez or Maik Taylor when they played for NI? On the basis of 'where they were from'. Or if you are an ROI supporter, do you not cheer on the British born lads?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: tommysmith on October 02, 2012, 01:28:23 PM
its pretty simple in sport you choose what side your on and people from that side support you . politics is only confusing the matter .
 no one cheered when Nick Faldo or colin mountgomerie won Majors as they played for england So if Rory wants to play for england in the olympics then good luck to him but don't expect irish support .
just like if steven gerrard signed for Man UTD   how many lifelong Steven Gerrard/liverpool fans would still cheer him

No one cheered when Monty won a major because Monty never won a major.
And he is Scottish not English.
And there is no England in the Olympics it's Team GB.


I cheered on Conlan, Barnes and the Chambers brothers because of where they were from
not because of who give them the best opportunity to compete. McIlroy & GMac will get the same consideration.

Good man and thats the way it should.

Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: tommysmith on October 02, 2012, 01:29:22 PM
If you are a NI fan, did you not cheer Lawrie Sanchez or Maik Taylor when they played for NI? On the basis of 'where they were from'. Or if you are an ROI supporter, do you not cheer on the British born lads?

I dont think thats the point he is making.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Bingo on October 02, 2012, 01:30:43 PM
I cheered on Barry McGuigan and even he didn't know where he was from  ;)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hardy on October 02, 2012, 01:32:37 PM
I cheered on Barry McGuigan and even he didn't know where he was from  ;)

Ha Ha!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: LeoMc on October 02, 2012, 01:41:46 PM
If you are a NI fan, did you not cheer Lawrie Sanchez or Maik Taylor when they played for NI? On the basis of 'where they were from'. Or if you are an ROI supporter, do you not cheer on the British born lads?

Where did I mention anything about withholding support from anyone? ???

If I go to the Pub because its Arthurs day does not mean I wont go when its not Arthurs day.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AZOffaly on October 02, 2012, 01:47:55 PM
Sorry, I thought you said you support them lads because of where they come from. I inferred from that that you wouldn't support lads who weren;t from there. My mistake, poor assumption.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: ziggysego on October 02, 2012, 01:51:39 PM
its pretty simple in sport you choose what side your on and people from that side support you . politics is only confusing the matter .
 no one cheered when Nick Faldo or colin mountgomerie won Majors as they played for england So if Rory wants to play for england in the olympics then good luck to him but don't expect irish support .
just like if steven gerrard signed for Man UTD   how many lifelong Steven Gerrard/liverpool fans would still cheer him

I cheered on the NI ones that opted for Team GB in the Olympics past and a few of the Team GB contributers from Britain.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: tommysmith on October 02, 2012, 02:05:53 PM
its pretty simple in sport you choose what side your on and people from that side support you . politics is only confusing the matter .
 no one cheered when Nick Faldo or colin mountgomerie won Majors as they played for england So if Rory wants to play for england in the olympics then good luck to him but don't expect irish support .
just like if steven gerrard signed for Man UTD   how many lifelong Steven Gerrard/liverpool fans would still cheer him

I cheered on the NI ones that opted for Team GB in the Olympics past and a few of the Team GB contributers from Britain.

Fair play so did i .
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2012, 03:19:26 PM
its pretty simple in sport you choose what side your on and people from that side support you . politics is only confusing the matter .
 no one cheered when Nick Faldo or colin mountgomerie won Majors as they played for england So if Rory wants to play for england in the olympics then good luck to him but don't expect irish support .
just like if steven gerrard signed for Man UTD   how many lifelong Steven Gerrard/liverpool fans would still cheer him

I cheered on the NI ones that opted for Team GB in the Olympics past and a few of the Team GB contributers from Britain.

Fair play so did i .

This is crazy, why does it always come down to flags/race/colour/identity? I thought we judge people (sport) on other things like their skill, their personality. Always (well in this shit hole) comes down to prod or taig. I'm sure Rory doesn't give a fook what people (on here) really think about him. If other people want to 'claim' him then go ahead.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: ziggysego on October 02, 2012, 03:43:47 PM
its pretty simple in sport you choose what side your on and people from that side support you . politics is only confusing the matter .
 no one cheered when Nick Faldo or colin mountgomerie won Majors as they played for england So if Rory wants to play for england in the olympics then good luck to him but don't expect irish support .
just like if steven gerrard signed for Man UTD   how many lifelong Steven Gerrard/liverpool fans would still cheer him

I cheered on the NI ones that opted for Team GB in the Olympics past and a few of the Team GB contributers from Britain.

Fair play so did i .

This is crazy, why does it always come down to flags/race/colour/identity? I thought we judge people (sport) on other things like their skill, their personality. Always (well in this shit hole) comes down to prod or taig. I'm sure Rory doesn't give a fook what people (on here) really think about him. If other people want to 'claim' him then go ahead.

None of the posts you quoted said anything different.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: seafoid on October 02, 2012, 04:09:38 PM
its pretty simple in sport you choose what side your on and people from that side support you . politics is only confusing the matter .
 no one cheered when Nick Faldo or colin mountgomerie won Majors as they played for england So if Rory wants to play for england in the olympics then good luck to him but don't expect irish support .
just like if steven gerrard signed for Man UTD   how many lifelong Steven Gerrard/liverpool fans would still cheer him


I cheered on the NI ones that opted for Team GB in the Olympics past and a few of the Team GB contributers from Britain.

Fair play so did i .

This is crazy, why does it always come down to flags/race/colour/identity? I thought we judge people (sport) on other things like their skill, their personality. Always (well in this shit hole) comes down to prod or taig. I'm sure Rory doesn't give a fook what people (on here) really think about him. If other people want to 'claim' him then go ahead.
Faldo was a different case. I know someone whose dad used to refer to him as TCF. That c*** Faldo
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: trileacman on October 02, 2012, 04:10:46 PM
its pretty simple in sport you choose what side your on and people from that side support you . politics is only confusing the matter .
 no one cheered when Nick Faldo or colin mountgomerie won Majors as they played for england So if Rory wants to play for england in the olympics then good luck to him but don't expect irish support .
just like if steven gerrard signed for Man UTD   how many lifelong Steven Gerrard/liverpool fans would still cheer him

I cheered on the NI ones that opted for Team GB in the Olympics past and a few of the Team GB contributers from Britain.

I didn't cheer on any of the northerners who opted for team GB but I didn't follow any of the sports they were in. That said I wouldn't have wished to see them lose just because they declared for "them-ums".
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: trileacman on October 02, 2012, 04:11:29 PM
its pretty simple in sport you choose what side your on and people from that side support you . politics is only confusing the matter .
 no one cheered when Nick Faldo or colin mountgomerie won Majors as they played for england So if Rory wants to play for england in the olympics then good luck to him but don't expect irish support .
just like if steven gerrard signed for Man UTD   how many lifelong Steven Gerrard/liverpool fans would still cheer him


I cheered on the NI ones that opted for Team GB in the Olympics past and a few of the Team GB contributers from Britain.

Fair play so did i .

This is crazy, why does it always come down to flags/race/colour/identity? I thought we judge people (sport) on other things like their skill, their personality. Always (well in this shit hole) comes down to prod or taig. I'm sure Rory doesn't give a fook what people (on here) really think about him. If other people want to 'claim' him then go ahead.
Faldo was a different case. I know someone whose dad used to refer to him as TCF. That c*** Faldo

Yeah, he's a bollix.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on October 02, 2012, 07:38:57 PM
Getting back to Rory......

Just watching the celebrations after the Ryder Cup win it was noticeable that Rory seemed to be on the outside always running around the outside of celebrating groups with no one taking any notice of him. He was like the unpopular child in the class that no one wanted in their gang or to be picked for the team. G-Mac on the other hand seemed to be a much more popular person with his fellow golfers.

That struck me at one point too. Maybe it is just his age - the others have been buddies for many years before boy wonder came along?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2012, 07:41:41 PM
Getting back to Rory......

Just watching the celebrations after the Ryder Cup win it was noticeable that Rory seemed to be on the outside always running around the outside of celebrating groups with no one taking any notice of him. He was like the unpopular child in the class that no one wanted in their gang or to be picked for the team. G-Mac on the other hand seemed to be a much more popular person with his fellow golfers.

That struck me at one point too. Maybe it is just his age - the others have been buddies for many years before boy wonder came along?

Noticed that also, though in fairness he gets on well with GMAC and he still is very young, Woods came over to him afterwards and had a bitta of a chat with him so he can't be all bad :o
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 02, 2012, 07:55:32 PM
Getting back to Rory......

Just watching the celebrations after the Ryder Cup win it was noticeable that Rory seemed to be on the outside always running around the outside of celebrating groups with no one taking any notice of him. He was like the unpopular child in the class that no one wanted in their gang or to be picked for the team. G-Mac on the other hand seemed to be a much more popular person with his fellow golfers.

That struck me at one point too. Maybe it is just his age - the others have been buddies for many years before boy wonder came along?

Noticed that also, though in fairness he gets on well with GMAC and he still is very young, Woods came over to him afterwards and had a bitta of a chat with him so he can't be all bad :o
He was probably telling him what he was going to do to his gf once he got his hands on her.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: here comes 6 on October 02, 2012, 08:56:11 PM
Once a p***k always a p***k
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: LeoMc on October 02, 2012, 09:47:59 PM
Getting back to Rory......

Just watching the celebrations after the Ryder Cup win it was noticeable that Rory seemed to be on the outside always running around the outside of celebrating groups with no one taking any notice of him. He was like the unpopular child in the class that no one wanted in their gang or to be picked for the team. G-Mac on the other hand seemed to be a much more popular person with his fellow golfers.
Maybe because G Mac is old enough to buy a round over there, no ones wanted to be with Rory for the evening in case he got carded or the cops came back for him.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on October 03, 2012, 12:40:38 PM
A good measure is this (and if you are old enough). How would you feel if Rory was your son?

I think he is quite simply the best ambassador that Irish golf has ever had. We will see whether he can reach the heights of Jack Nicholas.
You mean British golf?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on October 03, 2012, 12:45:55 PM
I cheered on Barry McGuigan and even he didn't know where he was from  ;)

Ha Ha!
It's gas the way the BBC has forgotton that McGuigan was from Monaghan.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on October 03, 2012, 12:51:19 PM
McIlroy can't fail to know and understand what the "Ulster Flag" means and signifys to nationalists. it is the flag of choice of loyalist death gangs, one of which killed his uncle. So when he wraps himself in it he would also understand that many nationalists and republicans see it as him firmly nailing his colours to the mast. McGuigan wisely avoided flags.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: ziggysego on October 03, 2012, 12:55:58 PM
A good measure is this (and if you are old enough). How would you feel if Rory was your son?

I think he is quite simply the best ambassador that Irish golf has ever had. We will see whether he can reach the heights of Jack Nicholas.
You mean British golf?

Na, Irish golf. He hasn't switched to Team GB... yet.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: screenexile on October 03, 2012, 02:26:14 PM
I don't see why people are going so far out of their way to be offended. He seems like a modest enough kid who is the worlds best at a sport. Whether he's Irish/Northern Irish can we not just celebrate that fact rather than stick a label on him and say "he's one of themmuns I don't like him"

It's the 21st Century surely we can just be happy that somebody from this island is making it on the world stage!!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stew on October 03, 2012, 02:34:34 PM
I don't see why people are going so far out of their way to be offended. He seems like a modest enough kid who is the worlds best at a sport. Whether he's Irish/Northern Irish can we not just celebrate that fact rather than stick a label on him and say "he's one of themmuns I don't like him"

It's the 21st Century surely we can just be happy that somebody from this island is making it on the world stage!!

Well said. hopefully his generation begin to forget the tribalism we grew up in, if we are to move on from the past we should want future generations to think for themselves and we should want them to have no part of the sectarian baggage we all were subject to.

I am not happy Rory is leaning toward the brits but I applaud him for going his own way and not making decisions to appease the likes of us on here.

I think he is a great kid and I wish him all the best, flags, emblems can all feck off as far as I am concerned, I am sick, sore and tired of tri colors and butchers aprons.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: give her dixie on October 03, 2012, 02:34:57 PM
I have been following Rory for a few years now, and he has some serious talent, and is now the No.1 golfer in the world. He has won 2 major's, and played a major role in the Ryder Cup at the weekend.

What ever he does in his private life and whatever flag he wants to wrap himself in is irrelevant to me, and I couldn't care less. It's what he does on the golf course that interests me.

He is from County Down, and i'm very proud of not only him, but the other golfers from Ireland who do us proud with all the success they have on the world stage.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Cold tea on October 03, 2012, 02:35:40 PM
I am more concerned with my family that if someone wants to play for one country or another.  Someone in my office was complaining today that her son was sent to his room last night because he kept asking about homework when the UTD match was on - priorities!!  Rory seems a nice guy with a good technical ability to move a ball about a golf course, whom he wants to represent at the Olympics doing this - I really couldn't care less.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stew on October 03, 2012, 03:03:02 PM
I have been following Rory for a few years now, and he has some serious talent, and is now the No.1 golfer in the world. He has won 2 major's, and played a major role in the Ryder Cup at the weekend.

What ever he does in his private life and whatever flag he wants to wrap himself in is irrelevant to me, and I couldn't care less. It's what he does on the golf course that interests me.

He is from County Down, and i'm very proud of not only him, but the other golfers from Ireland who do us proud with all the success they have on the world stage.

If he draped himself in the Israeli fleg you would shit yourself amd hate on him forever more GHD. ;)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: give her dixie on October 03, 2012, 03:33:50 PM
I have been following Rory for a few years now, and he has some serious talent, and is now the No.1 golfer in the world. He has won 2 major's, and played a major role in the Ryder Cup at the weekend.

What ever he does in his private life and whatever flag he wants to wrap himself in is irrelevant to me, and I couldn't care less. It's what he does on the golf course that interests me.

He is from County Down, and i'm very proud of not only him, but the other golfers from Ireland who do us proud with all the success they have on the world stage.

If he draped himself in the Israeli fleg you would shit yourself amd hate on him forever more GHD. ;)

Could be worse Stew, he could be from Armagh  ;)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2012, 03:38:00 PM
McIlroy can't fail to know and understand what the "Ulster Flag" means and signifys to nationalists. it is the flag of choice of loyalist death gangs, one of which killed his uncle. So when he wraps himself in it he would also understand that many nationalists and republicans see it as him firmly nailing his colours to the mast. McGuigan wisely avoided flags.

So by your logic he is endorsing those murdering scumbags? And if he draped himself in a tri-colour............
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: oisinog on October 03, 2012, 03:48:19 PM
At the end of the day this young fella is doing something he loved he is helping to generate a lot of income into the irish economy as there is people coming from all over the word to play on the gold courses in Ireland that he did.

I'm not a massive fan or Rory McIlroy but I would follow him to see how he is getting on.

Its typical of this board that everything comes down to politics and its a joke that we cant celebrate one of the best come backs ever in sport with out people spouting crap about flags.

Some people on here need to get a life
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: ziggysego on October 03, 2012, 03:49:06 PM
I have been following Rory for a few years now, and he has some serious talent, and is now the No.1 golfer in the world. He has won 2 major's, and played a major role in the Ryder Cup at the weekend.

What ever he does in his private life and whatever flag he wants to wrap himself in is irrelevant to me, and I couldn't care less. It's what he does on the golf course that interests me.

He is from County Down, and i'm very proud of not only him, but the other golfers from Ireland who do us proud with all the success they have on the world stage.

If he draped himself in the Israeli fleg you would shit yourself amd hate on him forever more GHD. ;)

Could be worse Stew, he could be from Armagh  ;)

Rory would never stoop that low.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on October 03, 2012, 03:57:56 PM
McIlroy can't fail to know and understand what the "Ulster Flag" means and signifys to nationalists. it is the flag of choice of loyalist death gangs, one of which killed his uncle. So when he wraps himself in it he would also understand that many nationalists and republicans see it as him firmly nailing his colours to the mast. McGuigan wisely avoided flags.

So by your logic he is endorsing those murdering scumbags? And if he draped himself in a tri-colour............

Remember the Flags and Emblems act? Remember the controversy when Shorts and H&W etc were forced to take down the NI flag from the workplace? What was that all about? Why didnt the cathloics just turn a blind eye?

The couldnt-care-less attitude is admirable. But this is the North of Ireland. I would still support Snory Rory if he wore a pair of Union Flag trousers, but hey, shouldnt I be allowed (on an Internet forum) to register my lack of comfort with his accessories? It doesnt mean I admire him any less.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on October 03, 2012, 04:06:12 PM
I think he is a little bollix and I don't like him.
GMac seems like a nice fella.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stew on October 03, 2012, 04:28:58 PM
I have been following Rory for a few years now, and he has some serious talent, and is now the No.1 golfer in the world. He has won 2 major's, and played a major role in the Ryder Cup at the weekend.

What ever he does in his private life and whatever flag he wants to wrap himself in is irrelevant to me, and I couldn't care less. It's what he does on the golf course that interests me.

He is from County Down, and i'm very proud of not only him, but the other golfers from Ireland who do us proud with all the success they have on the world stage.

If he draped himself in the Israeli fleg you would shit yourself amd hate on him forever more GHD. ;)

Could be worse Stew, he could be from Armagh  ;)


Touche   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Well played ya fecker. ;D
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: SLIGONIAN on October 03, 2012, 05:06:11 PM
I think he is a little bollix and I don't like him.
GMac seems like a nice fella.
+infinity, i never liked him, he always came across as a self serving p***k imo, he really only cares about himself, he puts no value on the backing irish golfing union gave him when he had to rely on mammy and daddy, but sure that all forgotten. His comments showed his true colours but sure the reaction made him make a carefully worded statement trying to hide his allegiance to gb. It was actually insulting pandering to the masses that statement considering what hesaid only a day or so previous. Gmac comes across way better. I even like the english golfers way more than mcilroy just in case im classed as anti british.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: gallsman on October 03, 2012, 05:11:48 PM
Coming from same fella who was disgusted to hear Marty Clarke wrote "NI" on his arm during his first spell in Oz.

He puts no value on the backing the "Irish Golfing Union" gave him? How do you know that? Did you overhear him laughing about it with his mates in the pub or something? When he had to rely on mammy and daddy? You mean when he was a child? Heaven forbid.

What are his "true colours"? McIlroy can identify himself whatever hell the way he likes. It's not up to the likes of you to condemn him for it.

Out of interest, as the GUI is a 32 county body, what are its sources of funding?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stew on October 03, 2012, 05:42:38 PM
I think he is a little bollix and I don't like him.
GMac seems like a nice fella.
+infinity, i never liked him, he always came across as a self serving p***k imo, he really only cares about himself, he puts no value on the backing irish golfing union gave him when he had to rely on mammy and daddy, but sure that all forgotten. His comments showed his true colours but sure the reaction made him make a carefully worded statement trying to hide his allegiance to gb. It was actually insulting pandering to the masses that statement considering what hesaid only a day or so previous. Gmac comes across way better. I even like the english golfers way more than mcilroy just in case im classed as anti british.

Sligonian, how do you feel about the lads from the wee six, those say who are good enough to don the ROI jersey in  the soccer yet in order to do so must defect from the NI youth teams that developed them?

Lets hope there are more talented kids out there that dont follow the traditional party lines and can actually think for themselves.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: SLIGONIAN on October 03, 2012, 06:12:11 PM
Coming from same fella who was disgusted to hear Marty Clarke wrote "NI" on his arm during his first spell in Oz.

He puts no value on the backing the "Irish Golfing Union" gave him? How do you know that? Did you overhear him laughing about it with his mates in the pub or something? When he had to rely on mammy and daddy? You mean when he was a child? Heaven forbid.

What are his "true colours"? McIlroy can identify himself whatever hell the way he likes. It's not up to the likes of you to condemn him for it.

Out of interest, as the GUI is a 32 county body, what are its sources of funding?
Not rorys pockets anyway, i can have any opinion i want, this marty clarke thing will never be forgotten, I said that about marty clarke about 3/4 yrs ago, i barely even remember saying it, i will never recognised the North as ni, so if that offends you deal with it. I am allowed to NOT like rory mcilroy. I did not like him long before his allegiances were made public.

Stew i believe the Irish soccer team should be all Ireland but if you think that relavent to me not liking rory your way off. Seriously though are people not allowed to not like rory mcilroy?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: michaelg on October 03, 2012, 06:41:59 PM
McIlroy can't fail to know and understand what the "Ulster Flag" means and signifys to nationalists. it is the flag of choice of loyalist death gangs, one of which killed his uncle. So when he wraps himself in it he would also understand that many nationalists and republicans see it as him firmly nailing his colours to the mast. McGuigan wisely avoided flags.
It is not solely the flag of loyalist death gangs, it is also the flag of many normal, law-abiding people from Northern Ireland / the six counties etc etc.  By the same extension, given that the tricolour was the flag of choice for Irish Republican terrorists, does this flag also not have negative connotations?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Maguire01 on October 03, 2012, 08:26:19 PM
See the start of this clip:
http://www.thedetail.tv/columns/how-northern-ireland-works/detail-news-140912
 :)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: rosnarun on October 03, 2012, 10:35:05 PM
my poiont is simple if he wants to play for England (they can call themselves what the like they all bow the knee to lizzy windsor ) then let the english cheer for him and the irish will  cheer for mcginley harrington and lowry.
but just let him choose you cant run with the hare and hunt with the hounds all your life
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stew on October 04, 2012, 12:20:17 AM
Coming from same fella who was disgusted to hear Marty Clarke wrote "NI" on his arm during his first spell in Oz.

He puts no value on the backing the "Irish Golfing Union" gave him? How do you know that? Did you overhear him laughing about it with his mates in the pub or something? When he had to rely on mammy and daddy? You mean when he was a child? Heaven forbid.

What are his "true colours"? McIlroy can identify himself whatever hell the way he likes. It's not up to the likes of you to condemn him for it.

Out of interest, as the GUI is a 32 county body, what are its sources of funding?
Not rorys pockets anyway, i can have any opinion i want, this marty clarke thing will never be forgotten, I said that about marty clarke about 3/4 yrs ago, i barely even remember saying it, i will never recognised the North as ni, so if that offends you deal with it. I am allowed to NOT like rory mcilroy. I did not like him long before his allegiances were made public.

Stew i believe the Irish soccer team should be all Ireland but if you think that relavent to me not liking rory your way off. Seriously though are people not allowed to not like rory mcilroy?

I was making an analogy sligonian, you are of course allowed to not like him, I think he is a good young man and I respect and pull for him, you don't, fair enough.

Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Leo on October 04, 2012, 12:31:03 AM
my poiont is simple if he wants to play for England (they can call themselves what the like they all bow the knee to lizzy windsor ) then let the english cheer for him and the irish will  cheer for mcginley harrington and lowry.
but just let him choose you cant run with the hare and hunt with the hounds all your life

The Dublin fella who was good enough at cricket to play for England - Morgan I think - was never subjected to this insular sectarain abuse. Did Jennings, O'Neill or Donaghy ever get this reicule for playing for Norn Irn? By the way, the reason there is not a unified Ireland soccer team is because the Dublin crowd decided on partition that they wanted their own wee Irish team and left the IFA - not the other wayround. So the IFA ise really the continuity FAI.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: dec on October 04, 2012, 12:38:35 AM
Did Jennings, O'Neill or Donaghy ever get this reicule for playing for Norn Irn?

Just from the "fans" at Windsor Park.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on October 04, 2012, 09:11:21 AM
I don't see why people are going so far out of their way to be offended. He seems like a modest enough kid who is the worlds best at a sport. Whether he's Irish/Northern Irish can we not just celebrate that fact rather than stick a label on him and say "he's one of themmuns I don't like him"

It's the 21st Century surely we can just be happy that somebody from this island is making it on the world stage!!
Yes I can't disagree with this, however some of have buried friends and relatives killed by loyalists and this flag is blood stained and exclusive. he has every right to be British, that doesn't bother me but the flag is salt in open wounds. He doesn't need to wrap it around himself.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on October 04, 2012, 09:14:15 AM
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The Dublin fella who was good enough at cricket to play for England - Morgan I think - was never subjected to this insular sectarain abuse

That's because nobody has ever heard of him. And as for " insular sectarain abuse" there is nothing sectarian about asking a sportperson to represent Ireland. The place is bad enough without people trying to split sporting teams.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on October 04, 2012, 09:14:36 AM
McIlroy can't fail to know and understand what the "Ulster Flag" means and signifys to nationalists. it is the flag of choice of loyalist death gangs, one of which killed his uncle. So when he wraps himself in it he would also understand that many nationalists and republicans see it as him firmly nailing his colours to the mast. McGuigan wisely avoided flags.

So by your logic he is endorsing those murdering scumbags? And if he draped himself in a tri-colour............

That's unlikely, but I would suggest that flags should be left out of sport, where they divide or an inclusive flag or symbol if appropriate.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on October 04, 2012, 09:16:09 AM
At the end of the day this young fella is doing something he loved he is helping to generate a lot of income into the irish economy as there is people coming from all over the word to play on the gold courses in Ireland that he did.

I'm not a massive fan or Rory McIlroy but I would follow him to see how he is getting on.

Its typical of this board that everything comes down to politics and its a joke that we cant celebrate one of the best come backs ever in sport with out people spouting crap about flags.

Some people on here need to get a life
Sure it's all good debate, if you don't like it don't get involved in the discussion.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on October 04, 2012, 09:19:12 AM
McIlroy can't fail to know and understand what the "Ulster Flag" means and signifys to nationalists. it is the flag of choice of loyalist death gangs, one of which killed his uncle. So when he wraps himself in it he would also understand that many nationalists and republicans see it as him firmly nailing his colours to the mast. McGuigan wisely avoided flags.
It is not solely the flag of loyalist death gangs, it is also the flag of many normal, law-abiding people from Northern Ireland / the six counties etc etc.  By the same extension, given that the tricolour was the flag of choice for Irish Republican terrorists, does this flag also not have negative connotations?
Itis a partisan unoffcial flag that is not inclusive.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AQMP on October 04, 2012, 09:22:22 AM
At the end of the day this young fella is doing something he loved he is helping to generate a lot of income into the irish economy as there is people coming from all over the word to play on the gold courses in Ireland that he did.

Some people on here need to get a life

That must be why the Lough Erne Golf Resort is in administration and is up for sale for £10mill (that's a fecking bargain by the way for anyone who has a spare £10mill).

When anyone posts on this board it is taken as read that they need to get a life!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2012, 10:12:15 AM
McIlroy can't fail to know and understand what the "Ulster Flag" means and signifys to nationalists. it is the flag of choice of loyalist death gangs, one of which killed his uncle. So when he wraps himself in it he would also understand that many nationalists and republicans see it as him firmly nailing his colours to the mast. McGuigan wisely avoided flags.

So by your logic he is endorsing those murdering scumbags? And if he draped himself in a tri-colour............

That's unlikely, but I would suggest that flags should be left out of sport, where they divide or an inclusive flag or symbol if appropriate.

But if he wore a tri colour you'd be happy?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: naka on October 04, 2012, 10:28:45 AM
who really cares about Rory,
as far as I am concerned I had more pleasure watiching his uncle playing for the orchard county than ever watching him.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2012, 10:32:07 AM
McIlroy can't fail to know and understand what the "Ulster Flag" means and signifys to nationalists. it is the flag of choice of loyalist death gangs, one of which killed his uncle. So when he wraps himself in it he would also understand that many nationalists and republicans see it as him firmly nailing his colours to the mast. McGuigan wisely avoided flags.

So by your logic he is endorsing those murdering scumbags? And if he draped himself in a tri-colour............

Remember the Flags and Emblems act? Remember the controversy when Shorts and H&W etc were forced to take down the NI flag from the workplace? What was that all about? Why didnt the cathloics just turn a blind eye?

The couldnt-care-less attitude is admirable. But this is the North of Ireland. I would still support Snory Rory if he wore a pair of Union Flag trousers, but hey, shouldnt I be allowed (on an Internet forum) to register my lack of comfort with his accessories? It doesnt mean I admire him any less.

I remember it more than most on here, having worked in a (H&W) workplace were it was decked out in union jacks, loyalist flags of UFF, UDA all over the place. We keep harping on about flegs, give it a rest, as people have said if you dislike him cause he's a knob then fine, if you dislike him over flegs then you need to wise up (Not you Orior) just my opinion of course.


Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Bingo on October 04, 2012, 10:37:45 AM
This thread is 12 pages and is about the worlds best golfer yet actual talk about golf - at a guess 1 page. Actual talk about his "side", what flag he is photographed with and if he a decent skin or a gobshite - at a guess 11 pages.

No wonder he moved to america.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: theskull1 on October 04, 2012, 10:46:04 AM
Loyalty to a petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul. Mark Twain

To more we dont give a fcuk about these things the better. I dont think he's trying to offend (faux offence imo) anyone, but theres every chance he's trying to please everyone.

Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Bingo on October 04, 2012, 11:02:05 AM
Loyalty to a petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul. Mark Twain

To more we dont give a fcuk about these things the better. I dont think he's trying to offend (faux offence imo) anyone, but theres every chance he's trying to please everyone.

I think that says more about the people than it does about him.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: gallsman on October 04, 2012, 11:11:01 AM
Coming from same fella who was disgusted to hear Marty Clarke wrote "NI" on his arm during his first spell in Oz.

He puts no value on the backing the "Irish Golfing Union" gave him? How do you know that? Did you overhear him laughing about it with his mates in the pub or something? When he had to rely on mammy and daddy? You mean when he was a child? Heaven forbid.

What are his "true colours"? McIlroy can identify himself whatever hell the way he likes. It's not up to the likes of you to condemn him for it.

Out of interest, as the GUI is a 32 county body, what are its sources of funding?
Not rorys pockets anyway, i can have any opinion i want, this marty clarke thing will never be forgotten, I said that about marty clarke about 3/4 yrs ago, i barely even remember saying it, i will never recognised the North as ni, so if that offends you deal with it. I am allowed to NOT like rory mcilroy. I did not like him long before his allegiances were made public.

Stew i believe the Irish soccer team should be all Ireland but if you think that relavent to me not liking rory your way off. Seriously though are people not allowed to not like rory mcilroy?

Naturally you're allowed to think whatever the hell you want. However, you appear to have a particular disdain for people who don't appear to think as you believe they should.

One of the great things that has happened in the north in the last 15 odd years is that people have learned to accept the differences between communities and respect anyone's decision. Forgive anyone from the north, from either side, for not giving a shite about disappointing the expectations of a Sligo man.

The ironic thing here is that Rory is being increasingly forced to identify himself as British or Irish. I'd suspect his natural identity is Northern Irish (whether or not anyone agreed with this is moot) - which obviously he can't represent in the Olympics.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: theskull1 on October 04, 2012, 11:18:56 AM
Loyalty to a petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul. Mark Twain

The more we dont give a fcuk about these things the better. I dont think he's trying to offend (faux offence imo) anyone, but theres every chance he's trying to please everyone.

I think that says more about the people than it does about him.

I agree ... but thats not to say everyone he's pleasing have got artful intentions to score points. Some may do but we neutralise their impact by not give a flying f about it.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on October 04, 2012, 11:36:12 AM
Coming from same fella who was disgusted to hear Marty Clarke wrote "NI" on his arm during his first spell in Oz.

He puts no value on the backing the "Irish Golfing Union" gave him? How do you know that? Did you overhear him laughing about it with his mates in the pub or something? When he had to rely on mammy and daddy? You mean when he was a child? Heaven forbid.

What are his "true colours"? McIlroy can identify himself whatever hell the way he likes. It's not up to the likes of you to condemn him for it.

Out of interest, as the GUI is a 32 county body, what are its sources of funding?
Not rorys pockets anyway, i can have any opinion i want, this marty clarke thing will never be forgotten, I said that about marty clarke about 3/4 yrs ago, i barely even remember saying it, i will never recognised the North as ni, so if that offends you deal with it. I am allowed to NOT like rory mcilroy. I did not like him long before his allegiances were made public.

Stew i believe the Irish soccer team should be all Ireland but if you think that relavent to me not liking rory your way off. Seriously though are people not allowed to not like rory mcilroy?

Naturally you're allowed to think whatever the hell you want. However, you appear to have a particular disdain for people who don't appear to think as you believe they should.

One of the great things that has happened in the north in the last 15 odd years is that people have learned to accept the differences between communities and respect anyone's decision. Forgive anyone from the north, from either side, for not giving a shite about disappointing the expectations of a Sligo man.

The ironic thing here is that Rory is being increasingly forced to identify himself as British or Irish. I'd suspect his natural identity is Northern Irish (whether or not anyone agreed with this is moot) - which obviously he can't represent in the Olympics.

Can't you enter as an Independent athlete! Perhaps himself, Darren Clarke and McDowell could enter as a team of Independents with one other and be an unofficial Northern Irish team. This would mean Team Ireland and Team GB could also get more golfers to the Olympics and if the NI lads won, the Brits and Irish could do our usual claim victory by association. Everyone is happy but noone is entirely happy.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: oisinog on October 04, 2012, 12:55:11 PM
At the end of the day this young fella is doing something he loved he is helping to generate a lot of income into the irish economy as there is people coming from all over the word to play on the gold courses in Ireland that he did.

Some people on here need to get a life

That must be why the Lough Erne Golf Resort is in administration and is up for sale for £10mill (that's a fecking bargain by the way for anyone who has a spare £10mill).

When anyone posts on this board it is taken as read that they need to get a life!

The Hotel was loosing money the two golf course was keeping it afloat.

£240 a night in the hotel during a recession that pricing made it go into admin
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on October 04, 2012, 01:27:30 PM
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But if he wore a tri colour you'd be happy?

Of course we'd be happy, the tricolour has both orange and green.

McIlroy has stirred this up himself. If he had any sense he would not have pontificated on the issue. One thing most people from NI are good at doing is keep politics out of it if there is no need for it.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: GAA_Talk on October 04, 2012, 01:33:22 PM

Can't you enter as an Independent athlete! Perhaps himself, Darren Clarke and McDowell could enter as a team of Independents with one other and be an unofficial Northern Irish team. This would mean Team Ireland and Team GB could also get more golfers to the Olympics and if the NI lads won, the Brits and Irish could do our usual claim victory by association. Everyone is happy but noone is entirely happy.
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Not a bad idea at all mayo. Couldn't have too many complaints about their flag either;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Olympic_Athletes_at_the_2012_Summer_Olympics
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2012, 02:06:16 PM
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But if he wore a tri colour you'd be happy?

Of course we'd be happy, the tricolour has both orange and green.

McIlroy has stirred this up himself. If he had any sense he would not have pontificated on the issue. One thing most people from NI are good at doing is keep politics out of it if there is no need for it.

It's a pity posters on here can't do the same
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Saffrongael on October 04, 2012, 02:09:56 PM
At the end of the day this young fella is doing something he loved he is helping to generate a lot of income into the irish economy as there is people coming from all over the word to play on the gold courses in Ireland that he did.

Some people on here need to get a life

That must be why the Lough Erne Golf Resort is in administration and is up for sale for £10mill (that's a fecking bargain by the way for anyone who has a spare £10mill).

When anyone posts on this board it is taken as read that they need to get a life!

The Hotel was loosing money the two golf course was keeping it afloat.

£240 a night in the hotel during a recession that pricing made it go into admin

How was it keeping it afloat if it went into administration ?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on October 04, 2012, 02:13:03 PM
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It's a pity posters on here can't do the same

This is the fallacy that it is objectionable to object to someone being objectionable.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stew on October 04, 2012, 02:44:29 PM
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But if he wore a tri colour you'd be happy?

Of course we'd be happy, the tricolour has both orange and green.

McIlroy has stirred this up himself. If he had any sense he would not have pontificated on the issue. One thing most people from NI are good at doing is keep politics out of it if there is no need for it.

That is complete and utter bollocks, ever since he got famous people have been at him and talking about this, he avoided it for years and now he does not give a damn and has made his choice, fair play to him.

I dont like his choice but I respect it and do not think less of him for it.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on October 04, 2012, 02:57:44 PM
As you say he does not give a damn. But we are all entitled to our opinions, and my opinion is that someone going out of their way to use flags associated with the killers of members of his family is not a person with good values.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: thewobbler on October 04, 2012, 03:01:44 PM
As you say he does not give a damn. But we are all entitled to our opinions, and my opinion is that someone going out of their way to use flags associated with the killers of members of his family is not a person with good values.

And my opinion is that a lot of folks go out of their way to be offended.

"Associated with" my arse.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on October 04, 2012, 03:08:57 PM
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"Associated with" my arse.

NI does not have a flag, political factions have flags, those political factions who approve of force having been used to make Ulster British.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: bannside on October 04, 2012, 03:14:56 PM
Nows heres a possible solution to all of this nonsense.

Ulster GUI (golfing union of Ireland) - like rugby, boxing, swimming etc all fly the PROVINCIAL flag of Ulster. Wouldnt that keep everyone happy?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2012, 03:18:07 PM
As you say he does not give a damn. But we are all entitled to our opinions, and my opinion is that someone going out of their way to use flags associated with the killers of members of his family is not a person with good values.

So what about people who associate the tri colour to killers of their families? If he wore that will he offend other people? And do you really think he is thinking that this flag means he is a fan of things you say the flag means? Honestly, wise up, stop spouting crap and live your life without worry about fooking flegs whether they are real flags or not :o

Possibly Bannside but you'll get some dicks out there who wouldn't be
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on October 04, 2012, 03:22:40 PM
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Ulster GUI (golfing union of Ireland) - like rugby, boxing, swimming etc all fly the PROVINCIAL flag of Ulster. Wouldnt that keep everyone happy?

Perfectly reasonable idea. Which makes the choice not to do it all the more evidence of an agenda.

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So what about people who associate the tri colour to killers of their families?

People will always make unreasonable associations. The tricolour is the flag of all the Irish people and does not belong to the IRA.

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And do you really think he is thinking that this flag means he is a fan of things you say the flag means?

Of course he is. If I roll up with a 1990 South African flag or a 1935 German flag I am making a statement, and it is not just that I am South African or German.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Olaf on October 04, 2012, 03:29:23 PM
He certainly put a stop to   Keegan Bradley's incessant attempts to encourage  the USAans to wave their flegs by stuffing him. .

Ole , Ole , Ole , Ole
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: thewobbler on October 04, 2012, 03:38:47 PM
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"Associated with" my arse.

NI does not have a flag, political factions have flags, those political factions who approve of force having been used to make Ulster British.

I'd love to see your rules for what makes a flag a valid flag.

By the way, when I say "love", it's in an ironical sense. I don't want to know at all. 
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: LeoMc on October 04, 2012, 03:39:04 PM
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Ulster GUI (golfing union of Ireland) - like rugby, boxing, swimming etc all fly the PROVINCIAL flag of Ulster. Wouldnt that keep everyone happy?

Perfectly reasonable idea. Which makes the choice not to do it all the more evidence of an agenda.

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So what about people who associate the tri colour to killers of their families?

People will always make unreasonable associations. The tricolour is the flag of all the Irish people and does not belong to the IRA.

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And do you really think he is thinking that this flag means he is a fan of things you say the flag means?

Of course he is. If I roll up with a 1990 South African flag or a 1935 German flag I am making a statement, and it is not just that I am South African or German.
;)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on October 04, 2012, 03:40:23 PM
my opinion is that someone going out of their way to use flags associated with the killers of members of his family is not a person with good values.

Evidence, please.

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People will always make unreasonable associations.

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And do you really think he is thinking that this flag means he is a fan of things you say the flag means?
Of course he is

Hung with your own rope.



Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: thebigfella on October 04, 2012, 03:55:29 PM
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Ulster GUI (golfing union of Ireland) - like rugby, boxing, swimming etc all fly the PROVINCIAL flag of Ulster. Wouldnt that keep everyone happy?

Perfectly reasonable idea. Which makes the choice not to do it all the more evidence of an agenda.

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So what about people who associate the tri colour to killers of their families?

People will always make unreasonable associations. The tricolour is the flag of all the Irish people and does not belong to the IRA.

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And do you really think he is thinking that this flag means he is a fan of things you say the flag means?

Of course he is. If I roll up with a 1990 South African flag or a 1935 German flag I am making a statement, and it is not just that I am South African or German.

I wish there was a ban list for the internet, I'd certainly be nominating you for inclusion.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: nifan on October 04, 2012, 04:02:32 PM
People will always make unreasonable associations. The tricolour is the flag of all the Irish people and does not belong to the IRA.

The NI flag doesnt belong to terrorist organisation, whether it has legal status is neither here nor there. People who consider themselves northern irish associate with it.

The importance of legal status seems to vary wildly with some people.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hardy on October 04, 2012, 04:11:43 PM
There is absolutely no hope. It's sad to see the ageing generation set in their bunkers and unable to learn the lessons of the history they've lived through. But it is absolutely desperate, and I use the word carefully, to see so many of the next generation here, not only mired, but revelling in the same cess that brought previous generations to the edge of perdition.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on October 04, 2012, 04:19:17 PM
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I wish there was a ban list for the internet, I'd certainly be nominating you for inclusion.

So if I believe that it would have been less divisive if Rory McIlroy had used an Ulster flag instead of a NI one, then I should be banned from the Internet. One suspects that the Internet would have many bans if such an opinion warrants censorship. The intolerance of some people is mind boggling.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on October 04, 2012, 04:41:31 PM
An Ulster flag would have been a stranger choice, what exactly would that have proven? EDIT: Assuming we are going to indulge the notion that he is in fact trying to prove something and/or make a point.

He is entitled to believe he is from Northern Ireland. I watched Liam Neeson interviewed on Monday and he was asked where he was from and he said Ballymena, County  Antrim, Northern Ireland.

No one is entitled to tell him otherwise.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: nifan on October 04, 2012, 04:46:59 PM
An Ulster flag would have been a stranger choice, what exactly would that have proven?


provinces have no legal status in Ireland, and the provincial flags have no legal status either - its a massive political statement to use one obviously?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on October 04, 2012, 05:15:49 PM
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He is entitled to believe he is from Northern Ireland.

Quite. Indeed he is not entitled to believe that he is from anywhere else.

Especially in the GAA we expect people to be proud of where they are from.

None of this excuses using divisive political symbols.

Anyhow you believe that he should do what he likes, whether or not this is right and damn the consequences. I believe that he has politicised golf in a way that was not necessary. He stirs the shit and yet I am the one who should be banned from the Internet.   :-\
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: thebigfella on October 04, 2012, 05:29:54 PM
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I wish there was a ban list for the internet, I'd certainly be nominating you for inclusion.

So if I believe that it would have been less divisive if Rory McIlroy had used an Ulster flag instead of a NI one, then I should be banned from the Internet. One suspects that the Internet would have many bans if such an opinion warrants censorship. The intolerance of some people is mind boggling.

If you choose to be offended that's your choice. People trying to paint McIroy as some sort a traitor/sell out/Loyalist Paramilitary Supporter/billy wright's love child etc..... over a f**king flag is pathetic. People must have little to worry about if it upsets them that much.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on October 04, 2012, 06:05:27 PM
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He is entitled to believe he is from Northern Ireland.

Especially in the GAA we expect people to be proud of where they are from.

None of this excuses using divisive political symbols.

Anyhow you believe that he should do what he likes, whether or not this is right and damn the consequences. I believe that he has politicised golf in a way that was not necessary. He stirs the shit and yet I am the one who should be banned from the Internet.   :-\

He is not a member of the GAA (AFAIK) so even if the expectation you listed above is a provision for membership, or affiliation with the GAA, or even acceptance by members of the GAA (which is another thing altogether) - it cannot be leveled at him.

"He has politicised golf" and he "stirs the shit"? Sweet mother of Jesus is it draughty in there much? Such nonsense.

As an aside - the flag with which you take such umbrage is assigned to Rory, and G-Mac and Darren Clarke on the leaderboard of every tournament they take part in. They do not play under the tri-colour. I appreciated the efforts G-MAC made to wear the European flag, and he has posted a link on his FB page in which Winker Watson interviews him afterwards and you can see a man stick a NI flag in his hand and he neither puts it on nor waves it. He almost hides it.

These boys are under tremendous pressure to please everyone and I've never understood the pressure they talk about, as I always considered those who would find offence (on either side of whatever decision they eventually make) to be neanderthalic eejits with chips on all shoulders.

I never suggested you should be banned from the internet.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2012, 06:29:30 PM
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I wish there was a ban list for the internet, I'd certainly be nominating you for inclusion.

So if I believe that it would have been less divisive if Rory McIlroy had used an Ulster flag instead of a NI one, then I should be banned from the Internet. One suspects that the Internet would have many bans if such an opinion warrants censorship. The intolerance of some people is mind boggling.

Is this you trying to be funny?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Toby Lerone on October 04, 2012, 06:50:34 PM

Hi everyone 1st post.  I'd like to stir the pot a little , if i may.  The problem for me was not Rory McIroy wearing the northern Ireland flag but Stephen Watson rushing over to put it round his shoulders.  Given the whole British/Irish argument and his subsequent statement, i would image that the last thing he would have wanted was another controversy to arise.  I would like to give the lad the benefit of the doubt and hope that he didn't realise what the flag actually signified but Stephen Watson should have known better,  but then again maybe he did.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Bearly on loose on October 04, 2012, 07:19:50 PM
Good to have you on board Jerome.....sorry Toby!  ;)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Toby Lerone on October 04, 2012, 07:25:36 PM
LOL thanks
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on October 04, 2012, 07:28:00 PM
To borrow a phrase from Armaniac - Stephen Watson is nortorious for politicising sport. This is neither a surprise nor a shock. It is his MO.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Newbridge Exile on October 04, 2012, 07:37:03 PM
W*nkerWatson  an  even bigger tool with a few jars in him as well, my brother was a barman in a well known watering hole up in the Port, and had to put up with him at the North West weekend , obnoxious is how he used to describe him
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: dillinger on October 04, 2012, 07:44:41 PM
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But if he wore a tri colour you'd be happy?

Of course we'd be happy, the tricolour has both orange and green.

McIlroy has stirred this up himself. If he had any sense he would not have pontificated on the issue. One thing most people from NI are good at doing is keep politics out of it if there is no need for it.
If another guy from Northern Ireland, any sport, had wrapped an Irish flag around him when celebrating because he seen him-self as Irish,would people be making as much fuss?

I bet the Protestants and Unionists would not be near as bothered.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 04, 2012, 07:49:11 PM
There is absolutely no hope. It's sad to see the ageing generation set in their bunkers and unable to learn the lessons of the history they've lived through. But it is absolutely desperate, and I use the word carefully, to see so many of the next generation here, not only mired, but revelling in the same cess that brought previous generations to the edge of perdition.
Nice golf reference in there Hardy.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: michaelg on October 04, 2012, 08:10:50 PM
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But if he wore a tri colour you'd be happy?

Of course we'd be happy, the tricolour has both orange and green.

McIlroy has stirred this up himself. If he had any sense he would not have pontificated on the issue. One thing most people from NI are good at doing is keep politics out of it if there is no need for it.
If another guy from Northern Ireland, any sport, had wrapped an Irish flag around him when celebrating because he seen him-self as Irish,would people be making as much fuss?

I bet the Protestants and Unionists would not be near as bothered.
Plenty of huffy, pedantic, petty Prods too.  To be fair though, no-one really gives a f**k when big Darrren gets draped in the tricolour, and people generally not overly arsed about use of tricolour for rugby team either. 
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: thewobbler on October 04, 2012, 08:45:33 PM
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I wish there was a ban list for the internet, I'd certainly be nominating you for inclusion.

So if I believe that it would have been less divisive if Rory McIlroy had used an Ulster flag instead of a NI one, then I should be banned from the Internet. One suspects that the Internet would have many bans if such an opinion warrants censorship. The intolerance of some people is mind boggling.

So you reckon it would be less devisive if a man from the six counties made a public show of being from the nine counties? You are aware that the meaning of divisive is not 'my preference', aren't you?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on October 04, 2012, 10:27:26 PM
The sentiment is this thread would suggest that some people would be happy to see NI flags at Gaelic matches in the six counties.

Hmmmm.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on October 04, 2012, 10:38:37 PM
The sentiment is this thread would suggest that some people would be happy to see NI flags at Gaelic matches in the six counties.

Hmmmm.

Never thought of it to be honest, but could we get more Unionists to join the GAA if we flew the Nothern Irish Banner, Ulster Flag and Ireland flags side by side in the North!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on October 04, 2012, 10:41:48 PM
The sentiment is this thread would suggest that some people would be happy to see NI flags at Gaelic matches in the six counties.

Hmmmm.

As your Avatar suggests - you need to get your eyes fixed.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 05, 2012, 08:29:39 AM
The sentiment is this thread would suggest that some people would be happy to see NI flags at Gaelic matches in the six counties.

Hmmmm.

Or it would suggest that people are more worried about flags than Gaelic games

Hmmmmm.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Olaf on October 05, 2012, 08:55:48 AM
Rory...great golfer .

Any relation to Sammy?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: LeoMc on October 05, 2012, 09:06:04 AM
The sentiment is this thread would suggest that some people would be happy to see NI flags at Gaelic matches in the six counties.

Hmmmm.

Wouldn't worry me in the slightest. Cant attach the image but remember a big NI flag with "For Peter  and Ulster" flying in Croke Park. :D
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on October 05, 2012, 10:52:25 AM
People will always make unreasonable associations. The tricolour is the flag of all the Irish people and does not belong to the IRA.

The NI flag doesnt belong to terrorist organisation, whether it has legal status is neither here nor there. People who consider themselves northern irish associate with it.

The importance of legal status seems to vary wildly with some people.
Ehhh I consider myself northern Irish, and I don't associate with it.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on October 05, 2012, 11:06:42 AM
The point lost by most here is that in the North we do not have a shared uniting flag/symbol. Both sides tend to use exclusive symbols and flags. The only answer is to give equal status to both Irish and British Flags. The Golfers from NI should be using the Union Flag as it is the official flag of the "region".
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Bugsy on October 05, 2012, 11:17:04 AM
People will always make unreasonable associations. The tricolour is the flag of all the Irish people and does not belong to the IRA.

As an Irish man I'd like to to disassociate myself from the tricolour. Any idea how I can stop poeple from associating it with me?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Olaf on October 05, 2012, 11:46:59 AM
People will always make unreasonable associations. The tricolour is the flag of all the Irish people and does not belong to the IRA.

The NI flag doesnt belong to terrorist organisation, whether it has legal status is neither here nor there. People who consider themselves northern irish associate with it.

The importance of legal status seems to vary wildly with some people.
Ehhh I consider myself northern Irish, and I don't associate with it.

But not Northern Irish? The flag is associated with people who see themselves as residing in  Northern Ireland. I presume that you don't?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 05, 2012, 01:32:24 PM
The point lost by most here is that in the North we do not have a shared uniting flag/symbol. Both sides tend to use exclusive symbols and flags. The only answer is to give equal status to both Irish and British Flags. The Golfers from NI should be using the Union Flag as it is the official flag of the "region".
I'd agree with this. The Ulster Banner is nothing more than a modified English flag, in fact I'd say it represents England more than it represents anything Irish. What annoys me is this rag is still used as the de facto flag for the North despite it having no status whatsoever. Not surprising then when I see this flag I immediately think of lamp posts because 9/10 that's where one is most likely to see one.

If Rory wants to drape himself in it fair f**ks to him but he may as well have an England flag over his shoulders - it's time the thing was replaced with something that actually represents Ireland - after all the name is a bit of a give away.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stew on October 05, 2012, 01:35:42 PM
Orior, we have already sold our souls, the GAA allowed soccer and Rugby to be played on Croke Park soil, the butchers apron was displayed for all to see.

If some of you who are worried about the NI fleg, (whatever norn Ireland is) then take a stand and dont ever show up at HQ again, never mind, you should have done that the second GSTQ was played at Croke Park.

Fcuk all flags, and that includes the tri color, all they are in our wee piece of the world are divisive and I have more to worry about than McIlroy and a couple of flags.

One last thing, I would not give a shit if some eejits took NI flags to an Armagh game, it would mean that the GAA were making inroads into 50% of the population that don't support our games.

Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on October 05, 2012, 01:40:59 PM
The point lost by most here is that in the North we do not have a shared uniting flag/symbol. Both sides tend to use exclusive symbols and flags. The only answer is to give equal status to both Irish and British Flags. The Golfers from NI should be using the Union Flag as it is the official flag of the "region".
I'd agree with this. The Ulster Banner is nothing more than a modified English flag, in fact I'd say it represents England more than it represents anything Irish. What annoys me is this rag is still used as the de facto flag for the North despite it having no status whatsoever. Not surprising then when I see this flag I immediately think of lamp posts because 9/10 that's where one is most likely to see one.

If Rory wants to drape himself in it fair f**ks to him but he may as well have an England flag over his shoulders - it's time the thing was replaced with something that actually represents Ireland - after all the name is a bit of a give away.

Why not rename Northern Ireland the Kingdom of Ireland and then the North can go back to the Kingdom of Ireland flag, then both parts can actually call themselves just Ireland and Use "Kingdom of" or "Republic of" to distinguish themselves.

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For United Ireland Sports, GAA (as an All-Ireland body), or other things where both parts work together, we could use a 4 quartered flag with 2 Kingdom of and 2 Republic of flags on it. It could be a possible flag for a United Irish Republic or (United Irish Kingdom!!!) in the future.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: nifan on October 05, 2012, 02:46:58 PM
I'd agree with this. The Ulster Banner is nothing more than a modified English flag, in fact I'd say it represents England more than it represents anything Irish. What annoys me is this rag is still used as the de facto flag for the North despite it having no status whatsoever. Not surprising then when I see this flag I immediately think of lamp posts because 9/10 that's where one is most likely to see one.

The ulster banner is a modified Ulster flag as far as im aware - background colour changed - i dont think it is the st george cross.

Why does the fact it has no staus bother you so much? Does it bother you when people use the ulster flag?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Rossfan on October 05, 2012, 03:12:32 PM
The Ulster flag obviously has some status - in Gaa/Rugby/Boxing/Golf at least.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Olaf on October 05, 2012, 03:23:35 PM
He's a great golfer and handles the fame/adulation fairly well IMHO.

Golf is his priority............... as it should be. In terms of character he is streets ahead of Woods , even when  adding this flag nonsense into the mix.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: nifan on October 05, 2012, 03:24:25 PM
The Ulster flag obviously has some status - in Gaa/Rugby/Boxing/Golf at least.

As does the NI flag, in Golf, football, the commonwealth games etc

But here we have arguments, for example
"The Golfers from NI should be using the Union Flag as it is the official flag of the "region"."

Ulster has no "official flag" so what should be used in this case. The only "official flags" that cover ulster completely are the tricolour and the union jack. So perhaps these should be used by entities representing the ulster "region", which has no legal status as a region either.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: tyssam5 on October 05, 2012, 03:30:06 PM
Rory...great golfer .

Any relation to Sammy?

Don't think so, not sure Sammy would pass the dress code at most clubs!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Bugsy on October 05, 2012, 03:54:15 PM
Orior, we have already sold our souls, the GAA allowed soccer and Rugby to be played on Croke Park soil, the butchers apron was displayed for all to see.

If some of you who are worried about the NI fleg, (whatever norn Ireland is) then take a stand and dont ever show up at HQ again, never mind, you should have done that the second GSTQ was played at Croke Park.

Fcuk all flags, and that includes the tri color, all they are in our wee piece of the world are divisive and I have more to worry about than McIlroy and a couple of flags.

One last thing, I would not give a shit if some eejits took NI flags to an Armagh game, it would mean that the GAA were making inroads into 50% of the population that don't support our games.

Good post. When it goes beyond a fun filing system it's gone too far.

Always think of this when i hear about pride in the flag :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTF-5EvjHJQ
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 05, 2012, 03:56:30 PM
I'd agree with this. The Ulster Banner is nothing more than a modified English flag, in fact I'd say it represents England more than it represents anything Irish. What annoys me is this rag is still used as the de facto flag for the North despite it having no status whatsoever. Not surprising then when I see this flag I immediately think of lamp posts because 9/10 that's where one is most likely to see one.

The ulster banner is a modified Ulster flag as far as im aware - background colour changed - i dont think it is the st george cross.

Why does the fact it has no staus bother you so much? Does it bother you when people use the ulster flag?
I was always under the impression it was based on English flag, surely can be forgiven for thinking so because that's essentially what it is anyway.

As for the Ulster flag, I have no issue with it. I know you're going to say 'what's the difference, neither flag is official?'..
The difference is the Ulster flag is not a loyalist symbol.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: nifan on October 05, 2012, 04:26:01 PM
I'd agree with this. The Ulster Banner is nothing more than a modified English flag, in fact I'd say it represents England more than it represents anything Irish. What annoys me is this rag is still used as the de facto flag for the North despite it having no status whatsoever. Not surprising then when I see this flag I immediately think of lamp posts because 9/10 that's where one is most likely to see one.

The ulster banner is a modified Ulster flag as far as im aware - background colour changed - i dont think it is the st george cross.

Why does the fact it has no staus bother you so much? Does it bother you when people use the ulster flag?
I was always under the impression it was based on English flag, surely can be forgiven for thinking so because that's essentially what it is anyway.

As for the Ulster flag, I have no issue with it. I know you're going to say 'what's the difference, neither flag is official?'..
The difference is the Ulster flag is not a loyalist symbol.

So the official status of a flag doesnt bother you - so why bang on about it. If you dont like the ni flag thats your choice, but moaning when other people have an affinity is pointless.

You yourself talking about the rugby said:
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Unionists who have nothing better to do than whinge over a flag and anthem get over themselves..and maybe for once be accommodating and tolerant.
and
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To be honest anyone getting hung up about what flag is being flown clearly isn't there for the rugby. Who gives a rat's arse.

but don't seem to practice what you preach
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 05, 2012, 04:57:56 PM
What
I'd agree with this. The Ulster Banner is nothing more than a modified English flag, in fact I'd say it represents England more than it represents anything Irish. What annoys me is this rag is still used as the de facto flag for the North despite it having no status whatsoever. Not surprising then when I see this flag I immediately think of lamp posts because 9/10 that's where one is most likely to see one.

The ulster banner is a modified Ulster flag as far as im aware - background colour changed - i dont think it is the st george cross.

Why does the fact it has no staus bother you so much? Does it bother you when people use the ulster flag?
I was always under the impression it was based on English flag, surely can be forgiven for thinking so because that's essentially what it is anyway.

As for the Ulster flag, I have no issue with it. I know you're going to say 'what's the difference, neither flag is official?'..
The difference is the Ulster flag is not a loyalist symbol.

So the official status of a flag doesnt bother you - so why bang on about it. If you dont like the ni flag thats your choice, but moaning when other people have an affinity is pointless.

You yourself talking about the rugby said:
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Unionists who have nothing better to do than whinge over a flag and anthem get over themselves..and maybe for once be accommodating and tolerant.
and
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To be honest anyone getting hung up about what flag is being flown clearly isn't there for the rugby. Who gives a rat's arse.

but don't seem to practice what you preach
The official status does annoy me because there is no flag for NI - yet that flag gets treated like it is the official one. It should be confined to the dustbin and properly made redundant. Let the loyalists keep it.

Yes I have fairly changed my tune but let's just say that was before I experienced first hand some antics from some of the people who would claim 'affinity' with the flag in question. Why should I tolerate a Loyalist symbol?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: nifan on October 05, 2012, 05:21:19 PM
Yes I have fairly changed my tune but let's just say that was before I experienced first hand some antics from some of the people who would claim 'affinity' with the flag in question. Why should I tolerate a Loyalist symbol?

You know not everyone who has this affinity to the flag is up to "antics" right? And that they arent even all loyalists - unless your definition of loyalist is different than mine.

Why should you tolerate it? For the same reason people should "tolerate" the tricolour. Because even if you dont agree with it or like it, many people feel like it represents them/where they are from. As long as they let you live your life you should just get over it
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 05, 2012, 11:16:58 PM
Yes I have fairly changed my tune but let's just say that was before I experienced first hand some antics from some of the people who would claim 'affinity' with the flag in question. Why should I tolerate a Loyalist symbol?

You know not everyone who has this affinity to the flag is up to "antics" right? And that they arent even all loyalists - unless your definition of loyalist is different than mine.

Why should you tolerate it? For the same reason people should "tolerate" the tricolour. Because even if you dont agree with it or like it, many people feel like it represents them/where they are from. As long as they let you live your life you should just get over it
I know fine well they don't. But this flag is defunct, nor is it representative of the people in the jurisdiction it's meant to repesent.

The tricolour is the internationally recognised flag of the Rep of Ireland, so in that sense it does not compare to the defunct loyalist flag. Why people are happy to settle for this flag to represent NI and people like me get ridiculed for questioning that is beyond me.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: nifan on October 06, 2012, 08:02:06 AM
I know fine well they don't. But this flag is defunct, nor is it representative of the people in the jurisdiction it's meant to repesent.

The tricolour is the internationally recognised flag of the Rep of Ireland, so in that sense it does not compare to the defunct loyalist flag. Why people are happy to settle for this flag to represent NI and people like me get ridiculed for questioning that is beyond me.

The tricolour does not legally represent NI, or all of the people there in. Do you agree with he people who have a fit at the sight of a tricolour flying anywhere? Does it upset you to see it at GAA games?

Not everyone may be happy it represents NI - plenty of them dont acknowledge NI at all in fact - but many do. Assuming that anyone, like mcillroy, who does is simply trying to politicise things is ridiculous.

It is not a loyalist flag - i am not a loyalist, mcillroy i doubt is a loyalist.

You can question it, but a little bit of effort at the tolerance you have expected from others in the past wouldnt go amiss.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 06, 2012, 09:04:21 AM
I know fine well they don't. But this flag is defunct, nor is it representative of the people in the jurisdiction it's meant to repesent.

The tricolour is the internationally recognised flag of the Rep of Ireland, so in that sense it does not compare to the defunct loyalist flag. Why people are happy to settle for this flag to represent NI and people like me get ridiculed for questioning that is beyond me.

The tricolour does not legally represent NI, or all of the people there in. Do you agree with he people who have a fit at the sight of a tricolour flying anywhere? Does it upset you to see it at GAA games?

Not everyone may be happy it represents NI - plenty of them dont acknowledge NI at all in fact - but many do. Assuming that anyone, like mcillroy, who does is simply trying to politicise things is ridiculous.

It is not a loyalist flag - i am not a loyalist, mcillroy i doubt is a loyalist.

You can question it, but a little bit of effort at the tolerance you have expected from others in the past wouldnt go amiss.
Yes I do because a lot of the time the tricolour will be flown from a lamp post which annoys me, it shouldn't be. The GAA is an Irish organisation with it's HQ in Dublin, the capital of the jurisdiction with which the tricolour represents so it is only natural that it uses that flag... but for the record I don't see the need for it to be flown at matches.

Just because you aren't a Loyalist and Rory McIlroy isn't a Loyalist that does not hide the Loyalist trappings associated with that flag. The reality is the only time outside of a few sporting events that anyone will see that flag is in Loyalist ghettos. 

If you can't admit that the flag is unrepresentative of all people in the North and that it should be changed then that's your problem.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on October 06, 2012, 10:25:17 AM
People will always make unreasonable associations. The tricolour is the flag of all the Irish people and does not belong to the IRA.

The NI flag doesnt belong to terrorist organisation, whether it has legal status is neither here nor there. People who consider themselves northern irish associate with it.

The importance of legal status seems to vary wildly with some people.
Ehhh I consider myself northern Irish, and I don't associate with it.

But not Northern Irish? The flag is associated with people who see themselves as residing in  Northern Ireland. I presume that you don't?
No I reside in the north of Ireland, Co Armagh to be precise.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on October 06, 2012, 10:31:45 AM
I know fine well they don't. But this flag is defunct, nor is it representative of the people in the jurisdiction it's meant to repesent.

The tricolour is the internationally recognised flag of the Rep of Ireland, so in that sense it does not compare to the defunct loyalist flag. Why people are happy to settle for this flag to represent NI and people like me get ridiculed for questioning that is beyond me.

The tricolour does not legally represent NI, or all of the people there in. Do you agree with he people who have a fit at the sight of a tricolour flying anywhere? Does it upset you to see it at GAA games?

Not everyone may be happy it represents NI - plenty of them dont acknowledge NI at all in fact - but many do. Assuming that anyone, like mcillroy, who does is simply trying to politicise things is ridiculous.

It is not a loyalist flag - i am not a loyalist, mcillroy i doubt is a loyalist.

You can question it, but a little bit of effort at the tolerance you have expected from others in the past wouldnt go amiss.
Sorry but it is a tainted one sided loyalist rag.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: michaelg on October 06, 2012, 11:35:31 AM
People will always make unreasonable associations. The tricolour is the flag of all the Irish people and does not belong to the IRA.

The NI flag doesnt belong to terrorist organisation, whether it has legal status is neither here nor there. People who consider themselves northern irish associate with it.

The importance of legal status seems to vary wildly with some people.
Ehhh I consider myself northern Irish, and I don't associate with it.

But not Northern Irish? The flag is associated with people who see themselves as residing in  Northern Ireland. I presume that you don't?
No I reside in the north of Ireland, Co Armagh to be precise.
You must have been good at Geography at school.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on October 06, 2012, 02:34:51 PM
People will always make unreasonable associations. The tricolour is the flag of all the Irish people and does not belong to the IRA.

The NI flag dissent belong to terrorist organisation, whether it has legal status is neither here nor there. People who consider themselves northern irish associate with it.

The importance of legal status seems to vary wildly with some people.
Ehhh I consider myself northern Irish, and I don't associate with it.

But not Northern Irish? The flag is associated with people who see themselves as residing in  Northern Ireland. I presume that you don't?
No I reside in the north of Ireland, Co Armagh to be precise.
You must have been good at Geography at school.
Yes and History too, Northern Ireland has always been and always will remain and artificially contrived statelet formed by Unionist Rebels and their British masters. I reserve the right to dissent from such an undemocratic action.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 06, 2012, 02:49:51 PM
People will always make unreasonable associations. The tricolour is the flag of all the Irish people and does not belong to the IRA.

The NI flag dissent belong to terrorist organisation, whether it has legal status is neither here nor there. People who consider themselves northern irish associate with it.

The importance of legal status seems to vary wildly with some people.
Ehhh I consider myself northern Irish, and I don't associate with it.

But not Northern Irish? The flag is associated with people who see themselves as residing in  Northern Ireland. I presume that you don't?
No I reside in the north of Ireland, Co Armagh to be precise.
You must have been good at Geography at school.
Yes and History too, Northern Ireland has always been and always will remain and artificially contrived statelet formed by Unionist Rebels and their British masters. I reserve the right to dissent from such an undemocratic action.

History you were good at? Well we were dumped by the nation you want to be part of!!! Did you learn that in history?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Maguire01 on October 07, 2012, 07:22:21 AM
There's a simple answer to this flag nonsense - have a new Northern Ireland flag - I imagine the likes of McIlroy would be only too happy if there was a more 'inclusive' flag he could stand under. The problem is there's unlikely to be any political appetite from some parties who wouldn't want to admit that NI is here for another generation at least. But if there was a recognition that any 'unification' model was likely to include NI as a canton (with its own Assembly, devolved from Dublin), then the flag would continue to have its place going forward.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Maguire01 on October 07, 2012, 07:23:38 AM
Orior, we have already sold our souls, the GAA allowed soccer and Rugby to be played on Croke Park soil, the butchers apron was displayed for all to see.
England don't play under the butcher's apron.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Premier Emperor on October 09, 2012, 08:42:13 AM
This flag pushing on McIlroy is getting embarrassing now.   ::)
I don't envy the lad being involved in a sectarian tug of war.
Unfortunately most of the stupidity is coming from one community moreso than the other.


Rory McIlroy will carry Tricolour at Olympic opening ceremony - if he declares for Ireland

GOLFER Rory McIlroy will be offered the chance to carry the Irish flag at the opening ceremony of the 2016 Rio Olympics in return for pledging his sporting allegiance to the country.

Pat Hickey, the president of the Olympic Council of Ireland, has attempted to sway the world number one after years of speculation about who McIlroy will declare for.

"I will say to Rory that if he declares for Ireland, then he will automatically put himself in pole position to carry the Tricolour into the stadium in Rio," said Mr Hickey, who is also a board member on the International Olympic Committee.

"What he has done on the world stage for Irish golf is absolutely astonishing. Personally, I would dearly love for him to represent Ireland."

In 2009, he claimed he would "probably play for Great Britain" as he has a UK passport, a stance he reiterated last month when he hinted in an interview that he has "always felt more British than Irish".

McIlroy subsequently insisted he had not made up his mind, prompting Mr Hickey to tempt him to declare for Ireland with talk of being flag-bearer.

Golf makes its first appearance at the summer games since 1904 at the Rio Olympics.

"Can you just imagine what something like this would do for Rory McIlroy?" Mr Hickey added.

"It would suddenly catapult him into the realms of being one of the most instantly recognisable sporting faces on the planet. Because make no mistake about it, that's what carrying the flag does for people."

He said that he did not think that McIlroy had yet made up his mind despite a series of comments on who he might choose to represent.

McIlroy, already well established as one of golf's true superstars, will be aware of the incentive that flag-bearing would carry.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/golf/rory-mcilroy-will-carry-tricolour-at-olympic-opening-ceremony-if-he-declares-for-ireland-3253773.html
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: dillinger on October 09, 2012, 08:57:58 AM
As stated before, only the top two players get into the Olimpics from each country. If Rory has a bad run he may not qualify for the UK.

He may not then even make it into the B team, i.e. Ireland. :)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AQMP on October 09, 2012, 09:27:29 AM
This flag pushing on McIlroy is getting embarrassing now.   ::)
I don't envy the lad being involved in a sectarian tug of war.
Unfortunately most of the stupidity is coming from one community moreso than the other.


Rory McIlroy will carry Tricolour at Olympic opening ceremony - if he declares for Ireland

GOLFER Rory McIlroy will be offered the chance to carry the Irish flag at the opening ceremony of the 2016 Rio Olympics in return for pledging his sporting allegiance to the country.

Pat Hickey, the president of the Olympic Council of Ireland, has attempted to sway the world number one after years of speculation about who McIlroy will declare for.

"I will say to Rory that if he declares for Ireland, then he will automatically put himself in pole position to carry the Tricolour into the stadium in Rio," said Mr Hickey, who is also a board member on the International Olympic Committee.

"What he has done on the world stage for Irish golf is absolutely astonishing. Personally, I would dearly love for him to represent Ireland."

In 2009, he claimed he would "probably play for Great Britain" as he has a UK passport, a stance he reiterated last month when he hinted in an interview that he has "always felt more British than Irish".

McIlroy subsequently insisted he had not made up his mind, prompting Mr Hickey to tempt him to declare for Ireland with talk of being flag-bearer.

Golf makes its first appearance at the summer games since 1904 at the Rio Olympics.

"Can you just imagine what something like this would do for Rory McIlroy?" Mr Hickey added.

"It would suddenly catapult him into the realms of being one of the most instantly recognisable sporting faces on the planet. Because make no mistake about it, that's what carrying the flag does for people."

He said that he did not think that McIlroy had yet made up his mind despite a series of comments on who he might choose to represent.

McIlroy, already well established as one of golf's true superstars, will be aware of the incentive that flag-bearing would carry.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/golf/rory-mcilroy-will-carry-tricolour-at-olympic-opening-ceremony-if-he-declares-for-ireland-3253773.html

Is this a joke??
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: screenexile on October 09, 2012, 09:49:19 AM
This flag pushing on McIlroy is getting embarrassing now.   ::)
I don't envy the lad being involved in a sectarian tug of war.
Unfortunately most of the stupidity is coming from one community moreso than the other.


Rory McIlroy will carry Tricolour at Olympic opening ceremony - if he declares for Ireland

GOLFER Rory McIlroy will be offered the chance to carry the Irish flag at the opening ceremony of the 2016 Rio Olympics in return for pledging his sporting allegiance to the country.

Pat Hickey, the president of the Olympic Council of Ireland, has attempted to sway the world number one after years of speculation about who McIlroy will declare for.

"I will say to Rory that if he declares for Ireland, then he will automatically put himself in pole position to carry the Tricolour into the stadium in Rio," said Mr Hickey, who is also a board member on the International Olympic Committee.

"What he has done on the world stage for Irish golf is absolutely astonishing. Personally, I would dearly love for him to represent Ireland."

In 2009, he claimed he would "probably play for Great Britain" as he has a UK passport, a stance he reiterated last month when he hinted in an interview that he has "always felt more British than Irish".

McIlroy subsequently insisted he had not made up his mind, prompting Mr Hickey to tempt him to declare for Ireland with talk of being flag-bearer.

Golf makes its first appearance at the summer games since 1904 at the Rio Olympics.

"Can you just imagine what something like this would do for Rory McIlroy?" Mr Hickey added.

"It would suddenly catapult him into the realms of being one of the most instantly recognisable sporting faces on the planet. Because make no mistake about it, that's what carrying the flag does for people."

He said that he did not think that McIlroy had yet made up his mind despite a series of comments on who he might choose to represent.

McIlroy, already well established as one of golf's true superstars, will be aware of the incentive that flag-bearing would carry.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/golf/rory-mcilroy-will-carry-tricolour-at-olympic-opening-ceremony-if-he-declares-for-ireland-3253773.html

Is this a joke??

What makes you say that?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: nifan on October 09, 2012, 09:51:52 AM
Does that guy really think carrying the flag at the olympics makes you one of the "most instantly recognisable sporting faces on the planet"?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: The Worker on October 09, 2012, 10:07:56 AM
Does that guy really think carrying the flag at the olympics makes you one of the "most instantly recognisable sporting faces on the planet"?

its not gonna detract from your status anyhow.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AQMP on October 09, 2012, 10:12:01 AM
This flag pushing on McIlroy is getting embarrassing now.   ::)
I don't envy the lad being involved in a sectarian tug of war.
Unfortunately most of the stupidity is coming from one community moreso than the other.


Rory McIlroy will carry Tricolour at Olympic opening ceremony - if he declares for Ireland

GOLFER Rory McIlroy will be offered the chance to carry the Irish flag at the opening ceremony of the 2016 Rio Olympics in return for pledging his sporting allegiance to the country.

Pat Hickey, the president of the Olympic Council of Ireland, has attempted to sway the world number one after years of speculation about who McIlroy will declare for.

"I will say to Rory that if he declares for Ireland, then he will automatically put himself in pole position to carry the Tricolour into the stadium in Rio," said Mr Hickey, who is also a board member on the International Olympic Committee.

"What he has done on the world stage for Irish golf is absolutely astonishing. Personally, I would dearly love for him to represent Ireland."

In 2009, he claimed he would "probably play for Great Britain" as he has a UK passport, a stance he reiterated last month when he hinted in an interview that he has "always felt more British than Irish".

McIlroy subsequently insisted he had not made up his mind, prompting Mr Hickey to tempt him to declare for Ireland with talk of being flag-bearer.

Golf makes its first appearance at the summer games since 1904 at the Rio Olympics.

"Can you just imagine what something like this would do for Rory McIlroy?" Mr Hickey added.

"It would suddenly catapult him into the realms of being one of the most instantly recognisable sporting faces on the planet. Because make no mistake about it, that's what carrying the flag does for people."

He said that he did not think that McIlroy had yet made up his mind despite a series of comments on who he might choose to represent.

McIlroy, already well established as one of golf's true superstars, will be aware of the incentive that flag-bearing would carry.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/golf/rory-mcilroy-will-carry-tricolour-at-olympic-opening-ceremony-if-he-declares-for-ireland-3253773.html

Is this a joke??

What makes you say that?

Does Pat Hickey really think this will be an incentive to someone who feels more British than Irish?  Ill thought out and ill timed I would have thought.  I'd say if McIlroy reads this he'll think "Right that's it, I'm going to represent GB!"
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Olaf on October 09, 2012, 10:35:40 AM
This flag pushing on McIlroy is getting embarrassing now.   ::)
I don't envy the lad being involved in a sectarian tug of war.
Unfortunately most of the stupidity is coming from one community moreso than the other.


"Can you just imagine what something like this would do for Rory McIlroy?" Mr Hickey added.

"It would suddenly catapult him into the realms of being one of the most instantly recognisable sporting faces on the planet. Because make no mistake about it, that's what carrying the flag does for people."

I think that he's already there Mr Hickey.

Is this a wind-up?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: nifan on October 09, 2012, 10:46:49 AM
Does that guy really think carrying the flag at the olympics makes you one of the "most instantly recognisable sporting faces on the planet"?

its not gonna detract from your status anyhow.

Its not, but what he said is nonsense.
Does anyone think Katie Taylor is one of the most recognisable sporting faces on the planet now.
Outside of Ireland nobody remembers she carried the flag barely.

Can anyone remember who carried the US flag for example? I had to look it up.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 09, 2012, 12:41:17 PM
The only thing carrying the flag would do for Rory would cement his identity (to the rest of the globe) as being Irish! So team GB it is then!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Mentalman on October 09, 2012, 01:00:32 PM
Saw the article this morning and thought "dear oh dear". What a hamfisted attempt to get him on board. Then I saw it was Pat Hickey and was no longer surprised. I think Mr. Hickey got it the wrong way round, from a purely financial view whoever gets Rory on board will make a fortune. In the greater scheme of things that boon would be worth more the Irish Olympic committee than Team GB, but is not so inconsiderable that it's not a factor for them too. Expect the toadying to continue until McIlroy puts Hickey and Co. out of their misery.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: joe bloggs on October 09, 2012, 01:08:55 PM
I couldn't believe what I was reading in the Article.

Hickey is some amadan. he must never have seen the footage of McIlroy rejecting a tri-colour after his US open win. Rory seems to be careful now about flags, and just sticks to the NI flag, which is probably the safest bet for him considering the rubbish that some people come out with. The last thing he would want is to be out in front carrying the flag for whoever he chooses to play for.

Hickey may have just helped make up his mind.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: nifan on October 09, 2012, 01:19:25 PM
I wonder might McIllroy just not bother.
Is it worth it for him, the analysis and bitterness he will get no matter what he chooses.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 01:21:57 PM
I wonder might McIllroy just not bother.
Is it worth it for him, the analysis and bitterness he will get no matter what he chooses.

He'll not worry what a bunch of bigots really think, as if he's reading this lol. Probably counting his money and watching tennis :o
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AZOffaly on October 09, 2012, 01:22:48 PM
Usually it's the other way around. The most recognisable face carries the flag because they are the most recognisable face. It doesn't make them such.

Look at all the basketballers that play in the NBA and carry the flag for their countries. They are not reconisable because they carry the flag, they carry the flag because they are recognisable.

Anyway, if this is not a joke, then it's a joke. If you know what I mean :D
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: nifan on October 09, 2012, 01:38:05 PM
Usually it's the other way around. The most recognisable face carries the flag because they are the most recognisable face. It doesn't make them such.

Actually I dont think they even tend to do that.
Outside of Jamaica I dont know how many teams had their most recognisable face out front.
USA - the largest team - had Mariel Zagunis. Could have had a basketball player - lebron for example-  or serena williams or even phelps

UK had Chris Hoy
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: nifan on October 09, 2012, 01:40:23 PM
I wonder might McIllroy just not bother.
Is it worth it for him, the analysis and bitterness he will get no matter what he chooses.

He'll not worry what a bunch of bigots really think, as if he's reading this lol. Probably counting his money and watching tennis :o

Obviously individual comments on here arent going to affect him, but the overall arc of things migh annoy him sufficiently.
His statement after the last comments was:
"Having just won three of my last four tournaments, including a second Major championship, I was hoping that my success on the golf course would be the more popular topic of golfing conversation today. "

ie hes got better things to be at than listening to gurning
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AZOffaly on October 09, 2012, 01:45:37 PM
USA tend not to do it that way, I'd imagine egos play a part there. But look at China, Serbia, Russia, Ireland, etc etc. I'd say a lot of countries go with their best, or most recognisable, athlete. And I'm not just talking about this year. I also think Chris Hoy would be a fairly recognisable figure, not to mention Usain Bolt.

People's Republic of China (CHN)    Yi Jianlian    Basketball
Russian Federation (RUS)    Maria Sharapova    Tennis
Serbia (SRB)    Novak Djokovic    Tennis
South Africa (RSA)    Caster Semenya   Athletics
Spain (ESP)    Pau Gasol    Basketball
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on October 09, 2012, 02:07:48 PM
People will always make unreasonable associations. The tricolour is the flag of all the Irish people and does not belong to the IRA.

The NI flag dissent belong to terrorist organisation, whether it has legal status is neither here nor there. People who consider themselves northern irish associate with it.

The importance of legal status seems to vary wildly with some people.
Ehhh I consider myself northern Irish, and I don't associate with it.

But not Northern Irish? The flag is associated with people who see themselves as residing in  Northern Ireland. I presume that you don't?
No I reside in the north of Ireland, Co Armagh to be precise.
You must have been good at Geography at school.
Yes and History too, Northern Ireland has always been and always will remain and artificially contrived statelet formed by Unionist Rebels and their British masters. I reserve the right to dissent from such an undemocratic action.

History you were good at? Well we were dumped by the nation you want to be part of!!! Did you learn that in history?
A bit simplistic there Milltown.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on October 09, 2012, 02:09:41 PM
McIlroy is a tool in my humble opinion, he has caused the flag furore for himself. Personally I don't care which team he declares for. Golf like professional tennis has no place in the Olympics.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: ziggysego on October 09, 2012, 02:26:19 PM
McIlroy is a tool in my humble opinion, he has caused the flag furore for himself. Personally I don't care which team he declares for. Golf like professional tennis has no place in the Olympics.

How?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on October 09, 2012, 02:34:18 PM
And finally on the golfing front, Rory has had a shit round in Turkey.

Worst web page ever:-

http://turkishairlinesworldfinal.com/livescoring/ (http://turkishairlinesworldfinal.com/livescoring/)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 02:59:48 PM
People will always make unreasonable associations. The tricolour is the flag of all the Irish people and does not belong to the IRA.

The NI flag dissent belong to terrorist organisation, whether it has legal status is neither here nor there. People who consider themselves northern irish associate with it.

The importance of legal status seems to vary wildly with some people.
Ehhh I consider myself northern Irish, and I don't associate with it.

But not Northern Irish? The flag is associated with people who see themselves as residing in  Northern Ireland. I presume that you don't?
No I reside in the north of Ireland, Co Armagh to be precise.
You must have been good at Geography at school.
Yes and History too, Northern Ireland has always been and always will remain and artificially contrived statelet formed by Unionist Rebels and their British masters. I reserve the right to dissent from such an undemocratic action.

History you were good at? Well we were dumped by the nation you want to be part of!!! Did you learn that in history?
A bit simplistic there Milltown.

Oh? Did I miss something?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stew on October 09, 2012, 03:28:35 PM
McIlroy is a tool in my humble opinion, he has caused the flag furore for himself. Personally I don't care which team he declares for. Golf like professional tennis has no place in the Olympics.

Are you kidding me? he cant win no matter what he does, this was an issue the minute he got famous, he has rightly avoided the issue for as long as he can and this, frankly is on people like you who no matter what he does, he can't win.

What has he done to be called a tool? he seems like a good kid and his family seem like good people, he was never going to win in the north, sadly there is too much divisiveness in the wee six yet, it will take generations before people lose the bigotry and stupidity.

Apples, are you one of these lads  footballer who love it when the north lose a nordie to the ROI? if so how do you like those apples! :P
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on October 09, 2012, 06:06:02 PM
Not too interested in the flag thing, lets face it he doesnt feel Irish, we shouldnt beg him. Aside from the flag thing I just cant take to him, and anyhow I think its a joke that golf is even in the olympics! football and tennis should be thrown out too
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 09, 2012, 07:20:39 PM
McIlroy is a tool in my humble opinion, he has caused the flag furore for himself. Personally I don't care which team he declares for. Golf like professional tennis has no place in the Olympics.

So If he was drapped in the tricolour and went to all the Down games he's be more popular? Though maybe not in Armagh :o
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Olaf on October 09, 2012, 07:28:07 PM
McIlroy is a tool in my humble opinion, he has caused the flag furore for himself. Personally I don't care which team he declares for. Golf like professional tennis has no place in the Olympics.

Are you sure?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on October 09, 2012, 08:45:30 PM
I'm watching Rory at the tournament in Turkey, and he played the last 5 holes like a complete turkey.

You brits can have him.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AQMP on October 10, 2012, 07:56:57 AM
Is it now Stephen Watson's job to follow Rory McIlroy around the world??
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: southdown on October 10, 2012, 07:58:38 AM
He was brutal yesterday in Turkey!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: nrico2006 on October 10, 2012, 09:35:56 AM
Not too interested in the flag thing, lets face it he doesnt feel Irish, we shouldnt beg him. Aside from the flag thing I just cant take to him, and anyhow I think its a joke that golf is even in the olympics! football and tennis should be thrown out too

Is there not an argument for the majority of the Olympic events to be thrown out apart from the athletics - rowing, shooting, fencing, badminton, table tennis, boxing, walking, basketball, synchronized swimming, diving, gymnastics, swimming etc.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Franko on October 10, 2012, 09:49:45 AM
Not too interested in the flag thing, lets face it he doesnt feel Irish, we shouldnt beg him. Aside from the flag thing I just cant take to him, and anyhow I think its a joke that golf is even in the olympics! football and tennis should be thrown out too

Is there not an argument for the majority of the Olympic events to be thrown out apart from the athletics - rowing, shooting, fencing, badminton, table tennis, boxing, walking, basketball, synchronized swimming, diving, gymnastics, swimming etc.

Ermm... no??
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: LeoMc on October 10, 2012, 11:42:54 AM
Not too interested in the flag thing, lets face it he doesnt feel Irish, we shouldnt beg him. Aside from the flag thing I just cant take to him, and anyhow I think its a joke that golf is even in the olympics! football and tennis should be thrown out too

Is there not an argument for the majority of the Olympic events to be thrown out apart from the athletics - rowing, shooting, fencing, badminton, table tennis, boxing, walking, basketball, synchronized swimming, diving, gymnastics, swimming etc.

Not the sports themselves, just the professional athletes.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hound on October 10, 2012, 12:38:51 PM
Not too interested in the flag thing, lets face it he doesnt feel Irish, we shouldnt beg him. Aside from the flag thing I just cant take to him, and anyhow I think its a joke that golf is even in the olympics! football and tennis should be thrown out too

Is there not an argument for the majority of the Olympic events to be thrown out apart from the athletics - rowing, shooting, fencing, badminton, table tennis, boxing, walking, basketball, synchronized swimming, diving, gymnastics, swimming etc.

Not the sports themselves, just the professional athletes.
Load of nonsense saying tennis and golf shouldnt be in it because they're well paid.
Top athletes get paid millions
Even amateur boxers are now on what can only be described as professional contracts.

If you get rid of competitors who get paid for competing, you'd only be left with the very minority sports - and the only reason they wouldnt get paid is because their sport is so far down the public's interest that it can't generate any money!

Be interesting to know how many medalists from the London Olympics will earn less than $100,000 in 2012 from their sport and associated trappings. Very few I'd say. Only the odd sport that nobody watches.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on October 15, 2012, 04:08:25 PM
McIlroy is a tool in my humble opinion, he has caused the flag furore for himself. Personally I don't care which team he declares for. Golf like professional tennis has no place in the Olympics.

Are you sure?
You know you are right I do, he should declare for the Brits and let someone else have the Irish Spot.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on October 31, 2012, 02:45:15 PM
It's been in the pipeline and on the grapevine for some time now, but Rory is going to be a free agent regarding his sponsorship. Watch this space and expect a huge deal between him and Nike. Following in his (new) buddy Tiger's footsteps.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/2012/10/30/acushnet-titleist-rory-mcilroy/1668229/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/2012/10/30/acushnet-titleist-rory-mcilroy/1668229/)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: LeoMc on October 31, 2012, 04:09:47 PM
It's been in the pipeline and on the grapevine for some time now, but Rory is going to be a free agent regarding his sponsorship. Watch this space and expect a huge deal between him and Nike. Following in his (new) buddy Tiger's footsteps.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/2012/10/30/acushnet-titleist-rory-mcilroy/1668229/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/golf/2012/10/30/acushnet-titleist-rory-mcilroy/1668229/)
Can't be bothered trawling back through the pages (this thread or the Ryder cup one) but someone on it suggested that was why Tiger was bigging Rory up pre-Ryder cup, paving the way for this deal.
Good call whovever.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: screenexile on October 31, 2012, 04:32:05 PM
I think it's been the worst kept secret on the Tour that McIlroy's moving to Nike.

Serious dough fair play to him the little British bollox!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: DrinkingHarp on November 04, 2012, 04:58:19 AM
The new $200 Million Dollar Man


..

Report: Rory McIlroy signs mega-deal with Nike Golf.

 .By Jonathan Wall | Devil Ball Golf – Fri, Nov 2, 2012 8:28 PM EDT.. .
 
Two weeks after the golf world wondered aloud whether Rory McIlroy would join Nike for the upcoming season for an eye-popping $200 million-plus, it appears we have our answer, after Fox Sports' Robert Lusetich reported that the No. 1-ranked player in the world will be Swooshing with Tiger Woods in a deal that's worth "at least" $200 million.
 
While Nike officials wouldn't confirm the report -- and honestly, why would they at this point -- McIlroy has, according to FoxSports.com, already filmed his first Nike commercial with Woods and new signees Kyle Stanley and Nick Watney.
 
McIlroy now becomes Nike's highest-paid golfer and the face of the company. Sure, Tiger Woods is still the highest profile name on the staff, but at this point, Nike's clearly looking towards the future. The decision to also add Stanley and Watney to the stable -- they, like McIlroy, were also with Titleist last year -- proves the Swoosh means business.
 
With McIlroy leaving Titleist just a year after he made over $8 million and won his second major, there will likely be plenty of people who question the decision to walk away from what he's known for years for an incredible payday and equipment uncertainty.
 
But here's the deal: No one in their right mind would pass on $200 million, even if it meant switching to new clubs, balls, etc. McIlroy was always going to be the big story going into 2013 based on the way he finished the season. However, the decision to switch to Nike will no doubt put him under an even bigger microscope.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: BarryBreensBandage on November 29, 2012, 10:31:24 PM
I was reading the golf thread and noticed that it or this thread had no mention of Rory winning both orders of merit, and topping that off with a win in Dubai. 5 birdies in the last five holes to beat Justin Rose who had himself just scored 10 under par.
The stats and records that are being made by Rory are unbelieveable; anyone who is not into the sport, please note: this ain't gonna happen again.

And this thread will probably descend into the British/Irish stuff when the whole point will be missed again.

Here we have a fella from Co. Down who is already a legend, the golfing media love him compared to Tiger, and who is World Number 1 in a time which will go down in history as the Golden Era for Irish Golf.

Honestly, if you have Sky, and hear that McIlroy (or any other Irish Golfer for that matter) is doing well coming into a Sunday, sit down and watch. Great Stuff.


Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on November 29, 2012, 11:02:41 PM
It's a great time to be following what ever version of Irish golf that you think he might be. His ball striking is just unreal, and his putting is in great shape. When he drained that putt on 18 to beat Justin Rose on Sunday it was great to watch.

He had this to say today about the upcoming "anchoring" ban

"Fully agree with the anchoring ban. Better image for the game of golf, skill and nerves are all part of the game. Level playing field in '16".

Might ruffle a few feathers but its nothing compared to the abuse he has gotten on this thread a few times!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on November 29, 2012, 11:03:54 PM
Totally agree with BarryBreen.

It has been fascinating to watch his rise to stardom.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Declan on November 30, 2012, 09:03:41 AM
His performance on the back nine on Sunday was unreal. As good as it gets. Fair play to him. Agree with him on the belly putter stuff as well
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: BarryBreensBandage on December 13, 2012, 04:21:29 PM
It was announced yesterday that Rory McIlroy will play the Irish Open next year at Carton House. Reports state that he has waived his current seven figure appearance fee in order to play.

Maith an Fhear, a Ruairi
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tubberman on December 13, 2012, 04:32:20 PM
It was announced yesterday that Rory McIlroy will play the Irish Open next year at Carton House. Reports state that he has waived his current seven figure appearance fee in order to play.

Maith an Fhear, a Ruairi

Fíor Gael!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on December 13, 2012, 04:56:32 PM
It was announced yesterday that Rory McIlroy will play the Irish Open next year at Carton House. Reports state that he has waived his current seven figure appearance fee in order to play.

Maith an Fhear, a Ruairi

Fíor Gael!

Tis great the Irish Open will be back on home soil next year.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: EC Unique on December 13, 2012, 04:58:26 PM
It was announced yesterday that Rory McIlroy will play the Irish Open next year at Carton House. Reports state that he has waived his current seven figure appearance fee in order to play.

Maith an Fhear, a Ruairi

Fíor Gael!

Tis great the Irish Open will be back on home soil next year.

Germany?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Rossfan on December 13, 2012, 05:27:52 PM
[Tis great the Irish Open will be back on home soil next year.

Ehhhh?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: give her dixie on December 13, 2012, 05:47:08 PM
Pomeroy and Ballygawley soil to be exact....... ;) ;)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: gerrykeegan on January 03, 2013, 02:53:22 PM
I said it to someone over the Christmas, he might not play at all.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-20896990
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: heganboy on January 03, 2013, 05:47:15 PM
I said it to someone over the Christmas, he might not play at all.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-20896990

you know what- that very well might just be the smartest thing ever...
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on January 03, 2013, 06:14:37 PM
Maybe, maybe not. With the number of people neanderthalic enough to be upset if he chooses one or the other - no doubt they will find offence if he chooses not to play.

He should be searching like feck for a granny rule and play for sweeden or something.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: magpie seanie on January 03, 2013, 06:26:35 PM
Maybe, maybe not. With the number of people neanderthalic enough to be upset if he chooses one or the other - no doubt they will find offence if he chooses not to play.

He should be searching like feck for a granny rule and play for sweeden or something.


Marry Wozzy and take up Danish citizenship!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 03, 2013, 06:45:25 PM
McIlroy should have the courage to pick a side. Not choosing a side would be the cowards way out and ultimately I think he would regret not playing.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Club Rossa on January 03, 2013, 06:46:48 PM
I couldn't give a toss who he represents or what flag he wraps himself in.
Was talking to a few boys who were at the Irish Open,they were saying that Gmac was great with the crowd,took loads of time to sign autographs and pose for pics while McIlroy was the opposite.I don't like him but that has nothing to do with the British/Irish thing.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AFS on January 03, 2013, 06:59:57 PM
I doubt Nike would be too pleased with the prospect of Rory giving the world's biggest sporting event a miss.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: heganboy on January 03, 2013, 07:04:45 PM
I would imagine that he has choice of event written into his contract...
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Minder on January 03, 2013, 07:05:56 PM
Why is he arsed what people think ? He spends very little time here now so he must be somewhat detached from it all.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2013, 07:07:43 PM
McIlroy should have the courage to pick a side. Not choosing a side would be the cowards way out and ultimately I think he would regret not playing.

Now he's a coward?? Can't win either way so instead of upsetting people (dcikheads in my opinion) he's a coward? I'd say, my opinion, that he is just letting it die down (the media attention),  it's not for another 3 odd years!! Concentrate on playing golf and trying to stay number 1

Not saying you are a dcikhead btw  :o
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Minder on January 03, 2013, 07:14:10 PM
McIlroy should have the courage to pick a side. Not choosing a side would be the cowards way out and ultimately I think he would regret not playing.

Now he's a coward?? Can't win either way so instead of upsetting people (dcikheads in my opinion) he's a coward? I'd say, my opinion, that he is just letting it die down (the media attention),  it's not for another 3 odd years!! Concentrate on playing golf and trying to stay number 1

Not saying you are a dcikhead btw  :o

He is.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Norf Tyrone on January 03, 2013, 07:28:41 PM
If I was him I'd field all questions on the subject saying he might not be picked.

When the time comes, the first country to send him an official letter of selection, choose that.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: hardstation on January 03, 2013, 07:40:35 PM
I'd be pretty annoyed if he played for the Brits.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: muppet on January 03, 2013, 07:42:55 PM
If Luke Donald and one other from Scotland/England/Wales get above him in the world ranking he might not even qualify for Britain.

It is also possible he wouldn't make an Irish team although it is hard to see Harrington and one other (if McDowell declares?) getting above him in the world rankings. But you'd never know.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AFS on January 03, 2013, 08:01:54 PM
I would imagine that he has choice of event written into his contract...

Maybe, but this wouldn't just be any old event. The first Olympic golf event in 112 years has the potential be the most widely viewed competition in the history of the sport. There will be massive pressure from Nike to appear.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on January 03, 2013, 08:11:30 PM
If Luke Donald and one other from Scotland/England/Wales get above him in the world ranking he might not even qualify for Britain.

It is also possible he wouldn't make an Irish team although it is hard to see Harrington and one other (if McDowell declares?) getting above him in the world rankings. But you'd never know.
Pretty sure the top 15 in the world at the time qualify automatically regardless of how many from same country make up that number.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on January 03, 2013, 08:16:01 PM
I'd be pretty annoyed if he played for the Brits.

Me too
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 03, 2013, 08:29:47 PM
McIlroy should have the courage to pick a side. Not choosing a side would be the cowards way out and ultimately I think he would regret not playing.

Now he's a coward?? Can't win either way so instead of upsetting people (dcikheads in my opinion) he's a coward? I'd say, my opinion, that he is just letting it die down (the media attention),  it's not for another 3 odd years!! Concentrate on playing golf and trying to stay number 1

Not saying you are a dcikhead btw  :o
He will have to make the decision to play for either team or not at all at some point. If I was in his position I pick my side and f**k the begrudgers. He obviously has enough media savvy now to sit on the fence but any negative publicity is unlikely to affect his commercial interests and he has or is relocating to Florida so why worry?! Maybe he is hedging his bets to ensure he gets a spot on either team!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Denn Forever on January 03, 2013, 08:39:35 PM
Is it not the top 20 that qualify to play at the Olympics?  Could he qualify and pick a country e.g. Iceland, Azores, Nigeria and play for them?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on January 03, 2013, 08:42:39 PM
I'd be pretty annoyed if he played for the Brits.

Me too

I wouldn't want him playing for Ireland if he really didn't want to.
I would rather if the spot went to someone who was proud to represent the country,flag and anthem should they win.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: leaveherinsir on January 03, 2013, 08:51:55 PM
I would imagine with him being dettached from living here now he just thinks to himself " could i be arsedwith all this now" It was a throwaway comment anyhow. Watch his body language on the programme later. Personally im not a fan of his but you couldnt blame him when you consider all the fleg furore recently
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 03, 2013, 08:57:13 PM
I'd be pretty annoyed if he played for the Brits.

Me too

I wouldn't want him playing for Ireland if he really didn't want to.
I would rather if the spot went to someone who was proud to represent the country,flag and anthem should they win.
The fact that he hasn't come out in favour of playing for Ireland should tell you all you need to know on that score! Irish golfers would be sure to be seriously pissed off if he took a place for the sake of it.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on January 03, 2013, 09:43:01 PM
At the risk of repeating myself...

All golfing competitions are organised on a provincial and all-Ireland basis. So what would make Rory feel British?

1) he was brought up in Holywood with its English maypole and forever bedecked in british/loyalist flags.
2) he went to a non-denominational school. Which means soccer and no gaelic.

This is why I'm not a fan of non-denominational schools - the ones I have seen wouldnt allow gaelic football. Rory could have been a handy left corner forward for Down.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: thejuice on January 03, 2013, 10:07:54 PM
What's disappointing is that he is thinking of not playing for fear of offending someone. f**k offending people. Look at the gowl that was roaring in the door about the fleg issue. Those are the people he'll be upsetting. Idiots namely, of either stripe.

Go out and play. He's a Northern Irish man as far as he's concerned. Those who can appreciate what he's done as a man from Ireland  irrespective of the colour on his sleeve will applaud him and those that have a problem with it will twist their knickers, drool and pull faces behind their computers and in the opinions columns. f**k those people.

Wish Rory all the best for 2014.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2013, 10:24:21 PM
At the risk of repeating myself...

All golfing competitions are organised on a provincial and all-Ireland basis. So what would make Rory feel British?

1) he was brought up in Holywood with its English maypole and forever bedecked in british/loyalist flags.
2) he went to a non-denominational school. Which means soccer and no gaelic.

This is why I'm not a fan of non-denominational schools - the ones I have seen wouldn't allow gaelic football. Rory could have been a handy left corner forward for Down.

How do you know he would have been a handy CF?

Boy's Model ran in partnership with St Pats a hurling team, a lot of promotional stuff and it worked well for what it was.

Going to a non denominational school means fcuk all, Holywood has it's own Gaelic team, he choose not to play for them as golf was his thing, going to a non denominational school also made him have friends outside of his religion, not a bad idea as the dcikhead who wants to keep this place divided will send their kids to one religion schools. Just my view


Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on January 03, 2013, 10:29:43 PM
At the risk of repeating myself...

All golfing competitions are organised on a provincial and all-Ireland basis. So what would make Rory feel British?

1) he was brought up in Holywood with its English maypole and forever bedecked in british/loyalist flags.
2) he went to a non-denominational school. Which means soccer and no gaelic.

This is why I'm not a fan of non-denominational schools - the ones I have seen wouldn't allow gaelic football. Rory could have been a handy left corner forward for Down.

How do you know he would have been a handy CF?

Boy's Model ran in partnership with St Pats a hurling team, a lot of promotional stuff and it worked well for what it was.

Going to a non denominational school means fcuk all, Holywood has it's own Gaelic team, he choose not to play for them as golf was his thing, going to a non denominational school also made him have friends outside of his religion, not a bad idea as the dcikhead who wants to keep this place divided will send their kids to one religion schools. Just my view

I was talking to a woman who had a brief teaching spell in the Boys Model. On the second day the pupils worked out that she was a catholic so they drummed the sash on the walls every time she walked past them. Nice place.

I went to a school that wouldnt entertain soccer. I'm just a product of that era, and all I can see is the erosion of Gaelic games through non-denominational schools.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 03, 2013, 10:30:47 PM
At the risk of repeating myself...

All golfing competitions are organised on a provincial and all-Ireland basis. So what would make Rory feel British?

1) he was brought up in Holywood with its English maypole and forever bedecked in british/loyalist flags.
2) he went to a non-denominational school. Which means soccer and no gaelic.

This is why I'm not a fan of non-denominational schools - the ones I have seen wouldn't allow gaelic football. Rory could have been a handy left corner forward for Down.

How do you know he would have been a handy CF?

Boy's Model ran in partnership with St Pats a hurling team, a lot of promotional stuff and it worked well for what it was.

Going to a non denominational school means fcuk all, Holywood has it's own Gaelic team, he choose not to play for them as golf was his thing, going to a non denominational school also made him have friends outside of his religion, not a bad idea as the dcikhead who wants to keep this place divided will send their kids to one religion schools. Just my view
You are really down on d**kheads this evening.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: michaelg on January 03, 2013, 10:34:08 PM
At the risk of repeating myself...

All golfing competitions are organised on a provincial and all-Ireland basis. So what would make Rory feel British?

1) he was brought up in Holywood with its English maypole and forever bedecked in british/loyalist flags.
2) he went to a non-denominational school. Which means soccer and no gaelic.

This is why I'm not a fan of non-denominational schools - the ones I have seen wouldn't allow gaelic football. Rory could have been a handy left corner forward for Down.

How do you know he would have been a handy CF?

Boy's Model ran in partnership with St Pats a hurling team, a lot of promotional stuff and it worked well for what it was.

Going to a non denominational school means fcuk all, Holywood has it's own Gaelic team, he choose not to play for them as golf was his thing, going to a non denominational school also made him have friends outside of his religion, not a bad idea as the dcikhead who wants to keep this place divided will send their kids to one religion schools. Just my view

I was talking to a woman who had a brief teaching spell in the Boys Model. On the second day the pupils worked out that she was a catholic so they drummed the sash on the walls every time she walked past them. Nice place.

I went to a school that wouldnt entertain soccer. I'm just a product of that era, and all I can see is the erosion of Gaelic games through non-denominational schools.
Just out of interest, do you get many protestant teachers teaching in catholic schools? 
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2013, 10:44:50 PM
At the risk of repeating myself...

All golfing competitions are organised on a provincial and all-Ireland basis. So what would make Rory feel British?

1) he was brought up in Holywood with its English maypole and forever bedecked in british/loyalist flags.
2) he went to a non-denominational school. Which means soccer and no gaelic.

This is why I'm not a fan of non-denominational schools - the ones I have seen wouldn't allow gaelic football. Rory could have been a handy left corner forward for Down.

How do you know he would have been a handy CF?

Boy's Model ran in partnership with St Pats a hurling team, a lot of promotional stuff and it worked well for what it was.

Going to a non denominational school means fcuk all, Holywood has it's own Gaelic team, he choose not to play for them as golf was his thing, going to a non denominational school also made him have friends outside of his religion, not a bad idea as the dcikhead who wants to keep this place divided will send their kids to one religion schools. Just my view

I was talking to a woman who had a brief teaching spell in the Boys Model. On the second day the pupils worked out that she was a catholic so they drummed the sash on the walls every time she walked past them. Nice place.

I went to a school that wouldnt entertain soccer. I'm just a product of that era, and all I can see is the erosion of Gaelic games through non-denominational schools.

I went to a school that didn't play soccer either, was raging as we had a decent team. Was that an erosion of soccer within my school/area? I work in a college (Mainly protestants) and the kids can't help themselves drumming the sash, do I give a fcuk? No. I've taught on the Falls also and the kids are exactly the same, just different tunes.

I have no problem telling the students I'm from the Falls, or having debates with them and it's good craic.

Too many people living in the past

Yes Tony, too many dcikheads, thought I'd try and be less grumpy this year, really difficult when some posters want to live in the past and be annoyed over what some golfer from Hollywood want's to do or not.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on January 03, 2013, 10:49:29 PM
Just so I have this right. Of I send my children to a demoninational school and I don't think that sport should be divided, then I am a dcikhead?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: imtommygunn on January 03, 2013, 10:51:56 PM
Personally speaking i think it's the guy's own choice and wouldn't be annoyed either way.

However at the minute i think if he wants to declare for ireland i think he would need to watch as his family live here and you'd worry about the safety of them.

I think he will probably declare for britain in the end. There's too much shite at the minute with flags etc and he's playing it tactfully.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2013, 10:56:20 PM
Just so I have this right. Of I send my children to a denominational school and I don't think that sport should be divided, then I am a dcikhead?

No, I didn't say that, I think sending kids to a non  denominational school means fcuk all, I was replying to Orior post.

Continually sending kids to divided schools will only keep people divided, just my view
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on January 03, 2013, 11:03:24 PM
Continually sending people to different teams, or worse starting to do so will not do a whole lot to end division.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on January 03, 2013, 11:04:25 PM
At the risk of repeating myself...

All golfing competitions are organised on a provincial and all-Ireland basis. So what would make Rory feel British?

1) he was brought up in Holywood with its English maypole and forever bedecked in british/loyalist flags.
2) he went to a non-denominational school. Which means soccer and no gaelic.

This is why I'm not a fan of non-denominational schools - the ones I have seen wouldn't allow gaelic football. Rory could have been a handy left corner forward for Down.

How do you know he would have been a handy CF?

Boy's Model ran in partnership with St Pats a hurling team, a lot of promotional stuff and it worked well for what it was.

Going to a non denominational school means fcuk all, Holywood has it's own Gaelic team, he choose not to play for them as golf was his thing, going to a non denominational school also made him have friends outside of his religion, not a bad idea as the dcikhead who wants to keep this place divided will send their kids to one religion schools. Just my view

I was talking to a woman who had a brief teaching spell in the Boys Model. On the second day the pupils worked out that she was a catholic so they drummed the sash on the walls every time she walked past them. Nice place.

I went to a school that wouldnt entertain soccer. I'm just a product of that era, and all I can see is the erosion of Gaelic games through non-denominational schools.
Just out of interest, do you get many protestant teachers teaching in catholic schools?

Yes indeed. Though we try not to give them any big roles during school masses. I know one protestant lady that had to lead a decade of the rosary.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Myles Na G. on January 03, 2013, 11:07:07 PM
At the risk of repeating myself...

All golfing competitions are organised on a provincial and all-Ireland basis. So what would make Rory feel British?

1) he was brought up in Holywood with its English maypole and forever bedecked in british/loyalist flags.
2) he went to a non-denominational school. Which means soccer and no gaelic.

This is why I'm not a fan of non-denominational schools - the ones I have seen wouldn't allow gaelic football. Rory could have been a handy left corner forward for Down.

How do you know he would have been a handy CF?

Boy's Model ran in partnership with St Pats a hurling team, a lot of promotional stuff and it worked well for what it was.

Going to a non denominational school means fcuk all, Holywood has it's own Gaelic team, he choose not to play for them as golf was his thing, going to a non denominational school also made him have friends outside of his religion, not a bad idea as the dcikhead who wants to keep this place divided will send their kids to one religion schools. Just my view

I was talking to a woman who had a brief teaching spell in the Boys Model. On the second day the pupils worked out that she was a catholic so they drummed the sash on the walls every time she walked past them. Nice place.

I went to a school that wouldnt entertain soccer. I'm just a product of that era, and all I can see is the erosion of Gaelic games through non-denominational schools.
No bad thing really, if we want to see decent soccer and rugby teams representing Ireland on a world stage. At he moment our sporting   and athletic talent is dissipated across too many sports.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Throw ball on January 03, 2013, 11:11:13 PM
Must admit that I am a golf fan and a fan of Rory. However, I could not give one damn who he plays for. Harrington I seem to remember said he should declare for Britain then he would have a chance of playing for Ireland. Maybe if McDowell could get up the rankings a bit he could join Rory and Ireland could have more Irishmen at the Olympics!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on January 03, 2013, 11:11:31 PM
I want Ireland to win as many Gold medals as possible. Therefore I want Rory to play for Ireland as it maximises our chances. What is wrong with that?

I also choose not to support non-denominational schools.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Throw ball on January 03, 2013, 11:12:41 PM
I want Ireland to win as many Gold medals as possible. Therefore I want Rory to play for Ireland as it maximises our chances. What is wrong with that?

I also choose not to support non-denominational schools.

Nothing I would say
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on January 03, 2013, 11:16:11 PM
At the risk of repeating myself...

All golfing competitions are organised on a provincial and all-Ireland basis. So what would make Rory feel British?

1) he was brought up in Holywood with its English maypole and forever bedecked in british/loyalist flags.
2) he went to a non-denominational school. Which means soccer and no gaelic.

This is why I'm not a fan of non-denominational schools - the ones I have seen wouldn't allow gaelic football. Rory could have been a handy left corner forward for Down.

How do you know he would have been a handy CF?

Boy's Model ran in partnership with St Pats a hurling team, a lot of promotional stuff and it worked well for what it was.

Going to a non denominational school means fcuk all, Holywood has it's own Gaelic team, he choose not to play for them as golf was his thing, going to a non denominational school also made him have friends outside of his religion, not a bad idea as the dcikhead who wants to keep this place divided will send their kids to one religion schools. Just my view

I was talking to a woman who had a brief teaching spell in the Boys Model. On the second day the pupils worked out that she was a catholic so they drummed the sash on the walls every time she walked past them. Nice place.

I went to a school that wouldnt entertain soccer. I'm just a product of that era, and all I can see is the erosion of Gaelic games through non-denominational schools.
No bad thing really, if we want to see decent soccer and rugby teams representing Ireland on a world stage. At he moment our sporting   and athletic talent is dissipated across too many sports.

You need to go check the raison d'etre for the GAA.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2013, 11:18:34 PM
Continually sending people to different teams, or worse starting to do so will not do a whole lot to end division.

Ok are you for keeping things the same? Would you prefer to have your kids to have no interaction with people from a protestant background?
Would it not be great for this place for our kids to grow up not worrying about religion or where someone is from? Eventually it will work out but needs to start somewhere. Non denominational schools (not so much intergraded) work really well. Very hard to have this where I grew up, based on location of course, but in areas where both sets live without the hassle it works well.

We can all choose what we want Orior, So can Rory, and we have people mouthing off him for it. I don't think Irelands need for golds should be based on golf, would prefer Ireland winning golds for track and field, traditional Olympic sports, boxing has been very good to us also. Money should be channeled in those areas
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Walter Cronc on January 03, 2013, 11:19:20 PM
Gret programme about Rory. Comes across a decent lad. I think his parents are a mixed marriage so can understand his dilemma. I'll support him whoever he plays for!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: theskull1 on January 03, 2013, 11:31:51 PM
I thinks its very important that we don't give a flying fcuk what he wants to do.

We all walk a different path
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stew on January 04, 2013, 12:14:36 AM
Gret programme about Rory. Comes across a decent lad. I think his parents are a mixed marriage so can understand his dilemma. I'll support him whoever he plays for!

Well played Walter, he is a Catholic and he has a mind of his own, feck the begrudgers, I hope he wins all round him.


Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: BennyCake on January 04, 2013, 01:14:21 AM
Who cares which flag he plays under?

Sure wasn't Darren Clarke pictured under an Irish flag with Harrington and Co, a few years ago. I don't remember any fuss about that.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on January 04, 2013, 02:45:17 AM
If McIllroy is promoting division in Irish sport then we are entitled to criticise him without being characterised as begrudgers.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stew on January 04, 2013, 03:09:16 AM
If McIllroy is promoting division in Irish sport then we are entitled to criticise him without being characterised as begrudgers.

promoting division my arse, he has his opinions and he is entitled to them.

George Best once stated he would like to see one Irish team as did Derek Dougan, where were you lads then? (if old enough)

This is a lose lose situation for McIlroy, if he was a Prod you would like him a lot more a la Darren Clarke and Gmac etc!

He is a young man and a world class professional athlete, he is one of us, find it within yourself to support one of your own ffs.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: johnneycool on January 04, 2013, 08:26:24 AM
If McIllroy is promoting division in Irish sport then we are entitled to criticise him without being characterised as begrudgers.

promoting division my arse, he has his opinions and he is entitled to them.

George Best once stated he would like to see one Irish team as did Derek Dougan, where were you lads then? (if old enough)

This is a lose lose situation for McIlroy, if he was a Prod you would like him a lot more a la Darren Clarke and Gmac etc!

He is a young man and a world class professional athlete, he is one of us, find it within yourself to support one of your own ffs.

Is Gmac and big Darrren not 'one of us' as well?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stephenite on January 04, 2013, 08:32:24 AM
If McIllroy is promoting division in Irish sport then we are entitled to criticise him without being characterised as begrudgers.

Only thing that's being promoted around here is ignorance by the likes of yourself, Orior and Hardstation, fake Irish and wannabe Gaels with the IQ of a slug between the lot of ye.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Cold tea on January 04, 2013, 08:44:29 AM
If McIllroy is promoting division in Irish sport then we are entitled to criticise him without being characterised as begrudgers.

promoting division my arse, he has his opinions and he is entitled to them.

George Best once stated he would like to see one Irish team as did Derek Dougan, where were you lads then? (if old enough)

This is a lose lose situation for McIlroy, if he was a Prod you would like him a lot more a la Darren Clarke and Gmac etc!

He is a young man and a world class professional athlete, he is one of us, find it within yourself to support one of your own ffs.

 ::) ::)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: tbrick18 on January 04, 2013, 09:07:52 AM
Just my personal opinion, but I think he's a bit of a c*ck!
I don't care who he plays for or even that he plays golf. I've watched a few interviews he's done and I know I think he would really annoy me on a personal level.

Now that said, sport shouldn't have political or religious undertones in any way shape or form. Look at Celtic and Rangers....the fact that one is perceived Catholic and the Other Protestant, one is British and one is Irish, the bigotry from some fans on both sides as it were. For me that's a disgrace.
People becoming upset over him choosing British team over the Irish because he's a catholic (or vice-verse), are following in the same vein as the Celtic-Rangers issue.
Sport is sport....you should be able to play for who you want for what ever reason you want whether it be golf, soccer, rugby whatever.
Of course Gaelic is different, unless your name is Seanie  ;)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2013, 09:47:41 AM
If McIllroy is promoting division in Irish sport then we are entitled to criticise him without being characterised as begrudgers.

I suppose you were supporting the ones who give Barry McGuigan a death threat when he boxed for the British title? He really divided sport with that one FFS
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AQMP on January 04, 2013, 10:31:26 AM
At the risk of repeating myself...

All golfing competitions are organised on a provincial and all-Ireland basis. So what would make Rory feel British?

1) he was brought up in Holywood with its English maypole and forever bedecked in british/loyalist flags.
2) he went to a non-denominational school. Which means soccer and no gaelic.

This is why I'm not a fan of non-denominational schools - the ones I have seen wouldn't allow gaelic football. Rory could have been a handy left corner forward for Down.

How do you know he would have been a handy CF?

Boy's Model ran in partnership with St Pats a hurling team, a lot of promotional stuff and it worked well for what it was.

Going to a non denominational school means fcuk all, Holywood has it's own Gaelic team, he choose not to play for them as golf was his thing, going to a non denominational school also made him have friends outside of his religion, not a bad idea as the dcikhead who wants to keep this place divided will send their kids to one religion schools. Just my view

I was talking to a woman who had a brief teaching spell in the Boys Model. On the second day the pupils worked out that she was a catholic so they drummed the sash on the walls every time she walked past them. Nice place.

I went to a school that wouldnt entertain soccer. I'm just a product of that era, and all I can see is the erosion of Gaelic games through non-denominational schools.
Just out of interest, do you get many protestant teachers teaching in catholic schools?

Yes, you'd probably be surprised.  A Protestant friend of mine taught in a convent school for about 18 months as far back as the late 80s.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AQMP on January 04, 2013, 10:40:35 AM
Gret programme about Rory. Comes across a decent lad. I think his parents are a mixed marriage so can understand his dilemma. I'll support him whoever he plays for!

Not sure about that.  Is that not McDowell you're thinking of??  If I were in McIlroy's shoes I'd leave this decision as late as possible.  I'm not 100% au fait with the qualification rules but could there be a scenario where if McIlroy declared for GB that would let McDowell in to represent Ireland??  That would be a great "out" for him!!

Personally I identify myself as Irish and therefore would like him to play for Ireland but wouldn't be too upset if he plays for GB.  In the past he has represented Ireland at World Cups and amateur events but let's face it, the story "North Down Catholic Says He's British" should not be news to anyone.

My gut tells me he'll plump for GB.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 04, 2013, 11:17:54 AM
At the risk of repeating myself...

All golfing competitions are organised on a provincial and all-Ireland basis. So what would make Rory feel British?

1) he was brought up in Holywood with its English maypole and forever bedecked in british/loyalist flags.
2) he went to a non-denominational school. Which means soccer and no gaelic.

This is why I'm not a fan of non-denominational schools - the ones I have seen wouldn't allow gaelic football. Rory could have been a handy left corner forward for Down.

How do you know he would have been a handy CF?

Boy's Model ran in partnership with St Pats a hurling team, a lot of promotional stuff and it worked well for what it was.

Going to a non denominational school means fcuk all, Holywood has it's own Gaelic team, he choose not to play for them as golf was his thing, going to a non denominational school also made him have friends outside of his religion, not a bad idea as the dcikhead who wants to keep this place divided will send their kids to one religion schools. Just my view

I was talking to a woman who had a brief teaching spell in the Boys Model. On the second day the pupils worked out that she was a catholic so they drummed the sash on the walls every time she walked past them. Nice place.

I went to a school that wouldnt entertain soccer. I'm just a product of that era, and all I can see is the erosion of Gaelic games through non-denominational schools.
Just out of interest, do you get many protestant teachers teaching in catholic schools?

Yes, you'd probably be surprised.  A Protestant friend of mine taught in a convent school for about 18 months as far back as the late 80s.
So far we have accounted for 2  ;D
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AQMP on January 04, 2013, 11:55:20 AM
At the risk of repeating myself...

All golfing competitions are organised on a provincial and all-Ireland basis. So what would make Rory feel British?

1) he was brought up in Holywood with its English maypole and forever bedecked in british/loyalist flags.
2) he went to a non-denominational school. Which means soccer and no gaelic.

This is why I'm not a fan of non-denominational schools - the ones I have seen wouldn't allow gaelic football. Rory could have been a handy left corner forward for Down.

How do you know he would have been a handy CF?

Boy's Model ran in partnership with St Pats a hurling team, a lot of promotional stuff and it worked well for what it was.

Going to a non denominational school means fcuk all, Holywood has it's own Gaelic team, he choose not to play for them as golf was his thing, going to a non denominational school also made him have friends outside of his religion, not a bad idea as the dcikhead who wants to keep this place divided will send their kids to one religion schools. Just my view

I was talking to a woman who had a brief teaching spell in the Boys Model. On the second day the pupils worked out that she was a catholic so they drummed the sash on the walls every time she walked past them. Nice place.

I went to a school that wouldnt entertain soccer. I'm just a product of that era, and all I can see is the erosion of Gaelic games through non-denominational schools.
Just out of interest, do you get many protestant teachers teaching in catholic schools?

Yes, you'd probably be surprised.  A Protestant friend of mine taught in a convent school for about 18 months as far back as the late 80s.
So far we have accounted for 2  ;D

There are at least two in my daughter's school, so I'll see your two and raise you two ;)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 04, 2013, 12:27:22 PM
At the risk of repeating myself...

All golfing competitions are organised on a provincial and all-Ireland basis. So what would make Rory feel British?

1) he was brought up in Holywood with its English maypole and forever bedecked in british/loyalist flags.
2) he went to a non-denominational school. Which means soccer and no gaelic.

This is why I'm not a fan of non-denominational schools - the ones I have seen wouldn't allow gaelic football. Rory could have been a handy left corner forward for Down.

How do you know he would have been a handy CF?

Boy's Model ran in partnership with St Pats a hurling team, a lot of promotional stuff and it worked well for what it was.

Going to a non denominational school means fcuk all, Holywood has it's own Gaelic team, he choose not to play for them as golf was his thing, going to a non denominational school also made him have friends outside of his religion, not a bad idea as the dcikhead who wants to keep this place divided will send their kids to one religion schools. Just my view

I was talking to a woman who had a brief teaching spell in the Boys Model. On the second day the pupils worked out that she was a catholic so they drummed the sash on the walls every time she walked past them. Nice place.

I went to a school that wouldnt entertain soccer. I'm just a product of that era, and all I can see is the erosion of Gaelic games through non-denominational schools.
Just out of interest, do you get many protestant teachers teaching in catholic schools?

Yes, you'd probably be surprised.  A Protestant friend of mine taught in a convent school for about 18 months as far back as the late 80s.
So far we have accounted for 2  ;D

There are at least two in my daughter's school, so I'll see your two and raise you two ;)
I thought teachers in CCMS schools needed the CCRS on top of their teaching bona fides?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AQMP on January 04, 2013, 12:45:10 PM
I believe teaching in NI is exempt from Fair Employment legislation.  AFAIK a CCRS is normal at primary school level but by no means compulsory at secondary level.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: EC Unique on January 04, 2013, 01:37:56 PM
I know of a non catholic teaching in the CBS in Omagh..
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: magpie seanie on January 04, 2013, 01:51:10 PM
Things have a long way to go.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: heganboy on January 04, 2013, 02:28:51 PM
Things have a long way to go.

master of understatement there Seanie.

This thread disappoints me regularly
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: imtommygunn on January 04, 2013, 02:33:36 PM
If McIllroy is promoting division in Irish sport then we are entitled to criticise him without being characterised as begrudgers.

Yes. This line of thinking is astounding.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hardy on January 04, 2013, 02:36:15 PM
Things have a long way to go.

master of understatement there Seanie.

This thread disappoints me regularly

I'd go for depresses over disappoints.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on January 04, 2013, 02:36:26 PM
It's weird to see all this declaration of "he's a catholic" or questions about the denomination of teachers. That is not what defines many people any more.

There's some very limited thinking from posters who you'd want to give credit to for having a baseline of intelligence, but reading their thoughts on this matter make me wonder if they're really a whole lot smarter than the w**kers and their flags.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Rois on January 04, 2013, 02:38:57 PM

I'd go for depresses over disappoints.

My thoughts exactly. 
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on January 04, 2013, 03:15:45 PM
It seems that several posters on this thread like to resort to implying that those they do not agree with are less intelligent. Such posters, no doubt mensa members, should have little problem refuting points made by the less intelligent and this would be a better contribution to discussion.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: imtommygunn on January 04, 2013, 03:17:33 PM
If McIllroy is promoting division in Irish sport then we are entitled to criticise him without being characterised as begrudgers.

Where are you even meant to begin with that one?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: thebigfella on January 04, 2013, 03:19:52 PM
It seems that several posters on this thread like to resort to implying that those they do not agree with are less intelligent. Such posters, no doubt mensa members, should have little problem refuting points made by the less intelligent and this would be a better contribution to discussion.

In fairness they don't need to imply anything, your posts stand for themselves in implying this.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stibhan on January 04, 2013, 03:43:18 PM
McIlroy is free to choose whatever national identity he so wishes, and anybody who disagrees with that is a complete arsehole. It's 2013 - I don't really care what someone decides to call themselves and the idea that Rory would offend anyone with a brain cell by choosing Britain or Northern Ireland is ridiculous to me. Likewise if he chose Ireland.

I'm comfortable enough as an Irish republican from Belfast to honestly not care either way. Both team Ireland and team GB would be lucky to have him.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stibhan on January 04, 2013, 03:49:17 PM
Also, these analyses of sport, culture and national identity in schools really leave a lot to be desired, especially given that I went to a Catholic Grammar school at around the same time as Rory and our school promoted Rugby, Golf, Soccer, GAA and Basketball, Waterpolo, Athletics, Rowing. It's ridiculous to try and pigeonhole a person in this way.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 04, 2013, 03:53:06 PM
Also, these analyses of sport, culture and national identity in schools really leave a lot to be desired, especially given that I went to a Catholic Grammar school at around the same time as Rory and our school promoted Rugby, Golf, Soccer, GAA and Basketball, Waterpolo, Athletics, Rowing. It's ridiculous to try and pigeonhole a person in this way.
Black b**tard.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Nally Stand on January 04, 2013, 03:58:28 PM
Also, these analyses of sport, culture and national identity in schools really leave a lot to be desired, especially given that I went to a Catholic Grammar school at around the same time as Rory and our school promoted Rugby, Golf, Soccer, GAA and Basketball, Waterpolo, Athletics, Rowing. It's ridiculous to try and pigeonhole a person in this way.
Black b**tard.

>:( Less of that sort of chat! Some of my best friends are filthy black b*****ds!

 :P
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: heganboy on January 04, 2013, 03:59:01 PM
It seems that several posters on this thread like to resort to implying that those they do not agree with are less intelligent. Such posters, no doubt mensa members, should have little problem refuting points made by the less intelligent and this would be a better contribution to discussion.

Can you point out an example or two?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on January 04, 2013, 04:08:51 PM
An example or two of what?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hardy on January 04, 2013, 04:10:37 PM
It seems that several posters on this thread like to resort to implying that those they do not agree with are less intelligent. Such posters, no doubt mensa members, should have little problem refuting points made by the less intelligent and this would be a better contribution to discussion.

That's an extraordinary interpretation of the debate and I fail to see where intelligence comes into it. Why does this assumption that someone who disagrees with you is presuming to be more intelligent than you apply to this thread only and not to every other discussion here?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on January 04, 2013, 04:24:47 PM
I'm a huge fan of Rory. I'm certainly not criticising Rory but I am entitled to be disappointed in his decision not to opt for Ireland. Does that help to clarify things?

The debate on non-denominational schools needs to go on its own thread.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 04, 2013, 04:27:09 PM
I'm a huge fan of Rory. I'm certainly not criticising Rory but I am entitled to be disappointed in his decision not to opt for Ireland. Does that help to clarify things?

The debate on non-denominational schools needs to go on its own thread.
Your disappointment is premature. Save it for when (not if) he choses Team GB.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AQMP on January 04, 2013, 04:33:00 PM
It's weird to see all this declaration of "he's a catholic" or questions about the denomination of teachers. That is not what defines many people any more.

There's some very limited thinking from posters who you'd want to give credit to for having a baseline of intelligence, but reading their thoughts on this matter make me wonder if they're really a whole lot smarter than the w**kers and their flags.

Just to clarify, my input on this subject was a response to a genuine query from michaelg.  My main concern over education would be the poor standard of teaching whatever the teacher's beliefs.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on January 04, 2013, 04:46:45 PM
I'd be pretty annoyed if he played for the Brits.

Me too

I wouldn't want him playing for Ireland if he really didn't want to.
I would rather if the spot went to someone who was proud to represent the country,flag and anthem should they win.
I agree, he is being forced to back track here, quite happy to wrap himself in the Loyalist Ulster Flag with no concern over the meaning for his nationalist co religionists of this rag. Let the Brits have him they are welcome.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: trileacman on January 04, 2013, 04:48:50 PM
Is the school of thought that says McIlroy has to play for "our Ireland" not the same school of thought that says James McClean should be playing for OWC?

The people who championed McClean's hard-earned right to play for the republic are the very same people who now dictate who McIlroy should play for. He has a choice that he is free to make. If I was him I'd have choose the South but f**k it, I couldn't give a shite what he chooses to do. Is criticising McIlroy for his decision to declare his nationality as "Northern Irish" not as bigoted and backward as those who would criticise McClean/Wilson/Gibson for considering themselves Irish?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2013, 05:07:03 PM
I'd be pretty annoyed if he played for the Brits.

Me too

I wouldn't want him playing for Ireland if he really didn't want to.
I would rather if the spot went to someone who was proud to represent the country,flag and anthem should they win.
I agree, he is being forced to back track here, quite happy to wrap himself in the Loyalist Ulster Flag with no concern over the meaning for his nationalist co religionists of this rag. Let the Brits have him they are welcome.

So did you also have the same attitude for Barry McGuigan when he choose to fight for the British title and had death threats because of it?

Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: ziggysego on January 04, 2013, 05:12:49 PM
Is the school of thought that says McIlroy has to play for "our Ireland" not the same school of thought that says James McClean should be playing for OWC?

The people who championed McClean's hard-earned right to play for the republic are the very same people who now dictate who McIlroy should play for. He has a choice that he is free to make. If I was him I'd have choose the South but f**k it, I couldn't give a shite what he chooses to do. Is criticising McIlroy for his decision to declare his nationality as "Northern Irish" not as bigoted and backward as those who would criticise McClean/Wilson/Gibson for considering themselves Irish?

Spot on. Some people need to take a look in the mirror, they might just see some OWC posters looking back at them.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2013, 05:17:14 PM
Is the school of thought that says McIlroy has to play for "our Ireland" not the same school of thought that says James McClean should be playing for OWC?

The people who championed McClean's hard-earned right to play for the republic are the very same people who now dictate who McIlroy should play for. He has a choice that he is free to make. If I was him I'd have choose the South but f**k it, I couldn't give a shite what he chooses to do. Is criticising McIlroy for his decision to declare his nationality as "Northern Irish" not as bigoted and backward as those who would criticise McClean/Wilson/Gibson for considering themselves Irish?

Spot on. Some people need to take a look in the mirror, they might just see some OWC posters looking back at them.

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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: ziggysego on January 04, 2013, 05:19:19 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Christmas Lights on January 04, 2013, 06:12:54 PM
From an olympics point of view, in my opinion, he should play for Ireland for the simple reason is that team GB will be strong enough with all the current English, Scottish and Welsh golfers on the circuit.  Poulter, Westwood, Donald et al so they will be strong enough with moire than enoygh top 10 golfers in the world to support "TEAM GB".

Should be like the boxing and rugby, anyone on this island plays for Ireland.

Golf as an olympic sport also is a bit of a joke, no need for it.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 04, 2013, 07:08:50 PM
Is the school of thought that says McIlroy has to play for "our Ireland" not the same school of thought that says James McClean should be playing for OWC?

The people who championed McClean's hard-earned right to play for the republic are the very same people who now dictate who McIlroy should play for. He has a choice that he is free to make. If I was him I'd have choose the South but f**k it, I couldn't give a shite what he chooses to do. Is criticising McIlroy for his decision to declare his nationality as "Northern Irish" not as bigoted and backward as those who would criticise McClean/Wilson/Gibson for considering themselves Irish?

Spot on. Some people need to take a look in the mirror, they might just see some OWC posters looking back at them.
A lot of people would base it on the premise that golf in Ireland is administered on an all-island & provincial basis like GAA or rugby so not exactly the same as the McClean analogy. Not that I disagree with the sentiment, if he chooses to play for GB that is his right to do so.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on January 04, 2013, 07:17:44 PM
I'd be pretty annoyed if he played for the Brits.

Me too

I wouldn't want him playing for Ireland if he really didn't want to.
I would rather if the spot went to someone who was proud to represent the country,flag and anthem should they win.
I agree, he is being forced to back track here, quite happy to wrap himself in the Loyalist Ulster Flag with no concern over the meaning for his nationalist co religionists of this rag. Let the Brits have him they are welcome.

So did you also have the same attitude for Barry McGuigan when he choose to fight for the British title and had death threats because of it?
Different situation, McGuigan chose to leave flags out of it.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2013, 08:08:39 PM
I'd be pretty annoyed if he played for the Brits.

Me too

I wouldn't want him playing for Ireland if he really didn't want to.
I would rather if the spot went to someone who was proud to represent the country,flag and anthem should they win.
I agree, he is being forced to back track here, quite happy to wrap himself in the Loyalist Ulster Flag with no concern over the meaning for his nationalist co religionists of this rag. Let the Brits have him they are welcome.

So did you also have the same attitude for Barry McGuigan when he choose to fight for the British title and had death threats because of it?
Different situation, McGuigan chose to leave flags out of it.

Just the same, he left the south and to fight for a British title had to have a British passport. But don't let that get in the way of acting like a bigot
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on January 04, 2013, 08:50:37 PM
So a person is a 'bigot' if they expect a person to represent their own country?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: heganboy on January 04, 2013, 08:57:22 PM
no a bigot is someone who doesn't respect someone's right to choose their nationality
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: trileacman on January 04, 2013, 08:59:05 PM
So a person is a 'bigot' if they expect a person to represent their own country?

McIllroy was born in the North, a particularly murky area in terms of national identity, who are you to dictate who Mc Ilroy's "own country" is? Do you think of McGuigan is a turncoat as well, given that he was born and bred in an Irish state by Irish parents but fought as a "British" boxer?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on January 04, 2013, 09:03:54 PM
Not all choices are morally equal. I have the 'right' to run off with my neighbours wife. That doesn't mean that I cannot be validly criticised for doing so.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: heganboy on January 04, 2013, 09:06:29 PM
validly?

why validly?

who gives one person the right to criticize the morals of someone else's choice?

Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on January 04, 2013, 09:09:11 PM
So a person is a 'bigot' if they expect a person to represent their own country?

They could rightfully be accused of having an inflated sense of self importance, at best.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on January 04, 2013, 09:14:50 PM
Anyone can say they don't agree with something. This forum has multiple threads where people criticise Sean Quinn or Kilcoo players. What gives anyone  the right to right to criticise racists?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: trileacman on January 04, 2013, 09:24:40 PM
Not all choices are morally equal. I have the 'right' to run off with my neighbours wife. That doesn't mean that I cannot be validly criticised for doing so.

You are just dodging the questions with bullshit and whataboutery. This debate is going nowhere.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on January 04, 2013, 09:37:28 PM
Look, I do not agree with Thatcher. I think there is such a thing as society, that society has obligations to people and that people have to return something to society. Many of you think people should be allowed do what they like and screw everyone else. We can agree to disagree, but you have no basis for characterizing me as a bigot of limited intelligence.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: trileacman on January 04, 2013, 09:39:51 PM
Just to clear things up I didn't call you a bigot, I just think your criticism of McIlroy is unfounded.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: ONeill on January 04, 2013, 10:24:27 PM
Can he declare for Gibraltar?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: trileacman on January 04, 2013, 10:33:27 PM
Can he declare for Gibraltar?

With an income like his it's a surprise he hasn't.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 04, 2013, 10:37:37 PM
Just to clear things up I didn't call you a bigot, I just think your criticism of McIlroy is unfounded.
So he just has limited intelligence then?  :D
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: trileacman on January 04, 2013, 10:43:55 PM
Just to clear things up I didn't call you a bigot, I just think your criticism of McIlroy is unfounded.
So he just has limited intelligence then?  :D

Nah, he's just thick.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Armamike on January 04, 2013, 10:45:41 PM
It's up to McIlroy, his choice alone and whatever makes him feel comfortable. No one else has the right to say what he should or shouldn't do in this case.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: muppet on January 05, 2013, 12:56:01 AM
If Luke Donald and one other from Scotland/England/Wales get above him in the world ranking he might not even qualify for Britain.

It is also possible he wouldn't make an Irish team although it is hard to see Harrington and one other (if McDowell declares?) getting above him in the world rankings. But you'd never know.
Pretty sure the top 15 in the world at the time qualify automatically regardless of how many from same country make up that number.

Wiki:
Quote
Qualification will be based on world ranking, with a total of 60 players qualifying in each of the men's and women's events. The top 15 players of each gender will qualify, with no limit on the number of golfers from a country that can qualify this way. The remaining 45 spots will go the highest-ranked players from countries that do not already have two golfers qualified.[5]

At the moment there are 6 Americans in the top 15. 10% of the competitors would be American if it were staged now. In others years it would be a lot more than that. That seems to go against the grain of qualification for all other events, for example the 100m would have a lot more American if it were based on rankings.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2013, 08:46:44 AM
Are there not fixed size teams? I would have thought it'd be like most other olympic sports and there's a qualifying standard then if you have more than the rquired number qualified it's discretionary who gets in.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 05, 2013, 09:19:02 AM
http://golf.about.com/od/tourmajorevents/l/bl2016olympicsgolftournament.htm (http://golf.about.com/od/tourmajorevents/l/bl2016olympicsgolftournament.htm)

and

http://golf.about.com/od/tourmajorevents/f/olympicformatfield.htm (http://golf.about.com/od/tourmajorevents/f/olympicformatfield.htm)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: imtommygunn on January 05, 2013, 11:14:00 AM
So two outside top 15 and no cap for the number within the top 15. That's completely different from most if not all other olympic sports where numbers per country are capped.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on January 08, 2013, 12:03:47 PM
no a bigot is someone who doesn't respect someone's right to choose their nationality
Where have I said I don't respect his right to choose? I don't agree with his decision, I think it lets down his own community but it is his right. I do believe that whatever about the Union Jack, the unofficial Ulster Flag is synonymous with Loyalism and Loyalist paramilitaries.
And I also believe that Britain is welcome to him if he does not respect the Country who's Golfing Union gave him all his chances.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Declan on January 08, 2013, 12:06:56 PM
Rory McIlroy’s big-money switch to Nike moved a step closer today after Jumeirah Group announced that it is not renewing its sponsorship deal with the world number one.

McIlroy is expected to sign a 10-year deal with Nike which is reported to be worth €250m to the 23-year-old from Northern Ireland.

Jumeirah Group had sponsored the two-time major winner since he was 18, but said in a statement that they had “jointly agreed” to bring the agreement to a close.

McIlroy said: “Jumeirah became my first corporate sponsor when I turned professional back in 2007, and I would like to thank everyone at the company for their support in helping me become the player I am today.”

Rory's loyalty is to himself and no one else - good luck to him
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Sandy Hill on January 08, 2013, 12:16:24 PM
I've never met McIlroy, know very little about him but for some reason or other I can't stand him!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tubberman on January 08, 2013, 12:26:07 PM
I've never met McIlroy, know very little about him but for some reason or other I can't stand him!

Well I know very little about him other that watching him play golf. But I saw the interview on RTE he did with Greg Allen and I thought he came across very well. Seemed a well-balanced, eager young man, didn't come across as overly cocky or anything.
He had the misfortune to be born in a place obsessed with flags, I'm sure he wishes he was born someplace where there was only one country he could opt for. Then this controversy over the Olympics wouldn't be hanging over him until 2016.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on January 08, 2013, 12:27:49 PM
I hope Nike tell him to get his fecking hair cut. I would recommend he asks for a 2 in the barbers.

Of course I respect his right to have shite hair if he wants, and to look like a clown. But this is my opinion, which I am entitled to have. It wont win him any more tournaments, but it takes the look of Caroline. Of course I do respect Carolines right to hang about with Rory, even with his shite hair. But this is my opinion, which I am entitled to have.

Looking forward to the Masters already! Does anyone know what tournaments Rory is entering between now and April?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2013, 12:56:04 PM
I hope Nike tell him to get his fecking hair cut. I would recommend he asks for a 2 in the barbers.

Of course I respect his right to have shite hair if he wants, and to look like a clown. But this is my opinion, which I am entitled to have. It wont win him any more tournaments, but it takes the look of Caroline. Of course I do respect Carolines right to hang about with Rory, even with his shite hair. But this is my opinion, which I am entitled to have.

Looking forward to the Masters already! Does anyone know what tournaments Rory is entering between now and April?

I'm sure he's looking forward to you watching him :o
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: heganboy on January 08, 2013, 05:48:06 PM

And I also believe that Britain is welcome to him if he does not respect the Country who's Golfing Union gave him all his chances.

I think you'll find that it was his unbelievable natural ability, work ethic and his parents working 2 and 3 jobs each that "gave him all his chances". The GUI was more than happy to have someone that good represent them, and Tourism Ireland is more than happy to reap the rewards of his success but while that may have some sway on his decision, it remains his choice.

And tell me about "his community" that he's letting down- I'm really interested to hear who you believe that might be? as interesting as the other "i believe"s that you posted...
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Olaf on January 08, 2013, 08:37:53 PM
no a bigot is someone who doesn't respect someone's right to choose their nationality
, the unofficial Ulster Flag is synonymous with Loyalism and Loyalist paramilitaries.


...and the Commonwealth Games...and Ulster's European Cup triumph in 1999 , not to mention their odyssey in the last couple of years....and NI's sojourn to the World Cup in Spain in 1982...to mention a few .

The GUI's input into his meteoric rise is allowing him (subject to a  fee of course) to nuture his considerable talents on various golf courses in NI and their input pales into insignificance compared to the effort put in and sacrifices made by the young man himself and his parents. He owes them nothing.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Franko on January 08, 2013, 11:16:32 PM
Firstly, how do any of you know what the GUI did/did not do for Rory during his younger years?  Has he talked about it anywhere?

Also, it is a fact that the 'unofficial Ulster flag' is synonomous with Unionism/Loyalism.  So were the other things you mention to differing extents.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: screenexile on January 08, 2013, 11:41:51 PM
Firstly, how do any of you know what the GUI did/did not do for Rory during his younger years?  Has he talked about it anywhere?

Also, it is a fact that the 'unofficial Ulster flag' is synonomous with Unionism/Loyalism.  So were the other things you mention to differing extents.

It's also a fact that the Tricolour is synonymous with Republican Paramilitaries. . . can you not see how Unionists would cast the same aspersions as you should McIlroy declare for Ireland?

He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. If he doesn't want to offend anybody he shouldn't enter the Olympics. I think this is cowardly however and I would still support him and hope he does well should it be under the Union Jack or the Tricolour!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Franko on January 08, 2013, 11:54:39 PM
Indeed it is.  Where did I mention anything otherwise.  The tricolour is the flag of a country though.

And I totally agree - I care not what colour his polo shirt is in the Olympics!  I find him a totally dislikeable character and I won't be one bit surprised if he plumps for the cowardly, low paying option.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: heganboy on January 09, 2013, 12:58:37 AM
Franko,
What is the cowardly, low paying option?

And to be clear, I know what the GUI did for (and with) Rory. I also am aware of the way in which he has gone above and beyond for the GUI in last years worlds, and the Irish Open, and has already declared it is on his 2013 calendar, and by doing so going a long way to making it a viable and likely even a profitable event financially oven his impending new sponsorship deal.  What is it that you think the GUI would get out of him competing in the Olympics?

As for the tricolour, for 68 years it was nothing but a flag of aspiration, which is a lot less than the flag with which you seem to have such a well informed issue...
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on January 09, 2013, 01:13:56 AM
Seems like Rory Mcllroy has finally declared his Olympic intentions during the protests in Belfast yesterday.

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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stephenite on January 09, 2013, 04:45:29 AM
Brilliant
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Franko on January 09, 2013, 10:51:40 AM
Franko,
What is the cowardly, low paying option?

And to be clear, I know what the GUI did for (and with) Rory. I also am aware of the way in which he has gone above and beyond for the GUI in last years worlds, and the Irish Open, and has already declared it is on his 2013 calendar, and by doing so going a long way to making it a viable and likely even a profitable event financially oven his impending new sponsorship deal.  What is it that you think the GUI would get out of him competing in the Olympics?

As for the tricolour, for 68 years it was nothing but a flag of aspiration, which is a lot less than the flag with which you seem to have such a well informed issue...

To not play at all.

I don't think the GUI would get an awful lot out of Rory playing for Ireland in the Olympics - apart from the obvious benefits that would come from Ireland having a better chance of taking a gold.

As for the bit in bold - this isn't the place to get into an argument about flags.  All I have said is that the flag is synonymous with Unionism/Loyalism (which is an opinion that few would disagree with) and that it isn't the flag of a country (which is a fact).

Why do I get the feeling that anyone who says they don't like McIlroy is automatically labelled sectarian on here??
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on January 09, 2013, 11:11:04 AM
I have no problem with McIlroy playing for GB if that is his wish, I have said he has the right to choose. He does however come from a nationalist catholic community which for years suffered discrimination and violence in the name of said Ulster Flag. His own uncle was shot in its name. That is the issue and Heganboy whether you like it or not it is an issue for many people in much the same way the tricolour is for the unionist community. I would prefer to see all flags taken out of sport where identities are divided. The proliferation of Ulster Flags in 1999 was due in large part to the DUP who handed them out free. Ulster Rugby actually plays under the old 9 County Flag which predates partition.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: heganboy on January 09, 2013, 03:56:07 PM
That is the issue and Heganboy whether you like it or not it is an issue for many people in much the same way the tricolour is for the unionist community. I would prefer to see all flags taken out of sport where identities are divided.

I really don't like it but there's not a lot I can do about it- a bit like Rory McIlroy himself. And his Great uncle Joe? Surely the fact that his uncle was shot is as good a reason as any to stay away from the issue of flags.

All of this attaching completely unreasonable expectations to someone because they excel at a sport is absolute horseshit. This is a 23 year old who grew up in Northern Ireland in a very mixed environment. I'm very proud to say he's from home, though I have no claim over him or influence over him whatsoever. He has such a fine line to tread to avoid his friends and family taking abuse from one side or the other, that its almost a wonder he hasn't shipped the whole lot of them over to join him in Florida to save them dealing with the zealots. He is damned either way- there is no upside for him either amongst family or friends if he elects to play for one team or the other. None whatsoever. He owes neither the BOA or the OCI anything, and quite frankly I think just not playing in the tournament would be a great idea if I was in his shoes. (Which I'm not because I still cant break 80 and I would give good money to be able to be half as good as him) He's a young man who is phenomenally good at the game of golf- who grew up in Holywood and his parents sacrificed a lot to give him opportunities that he has grabbed with both hands.

Also in the same situation is Graeme McDowell, another major winner with a mixed background from a few miles down the road, who has spoken out on the issue and been a little bit more forthright:

Quote
I’m not bothered who I play for. I’ll be honoured to represent Britain or Ireland or both. I’m proud to play golf for Europe.

Yes, I sit on the fence but why not? There’s no right or wrong answer. I’m always going to upset someone, so why not sit on the fence?

Leave it to the golfers in question, and hope that their careers maintain a trajectory that even make this a viable question. Let them sit on the fence in peace...
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hardy on January 09, 2013, 04:04:01 PM
Well said, heganboy.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2013, 04:06:49 PM
Well said, heganboy.

+1
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Olaf on January 09, 2013, 06:52:57 PM
I have no problem with McIlroy playing for GB if that is his wish, I have said he has the right to choose. He does however come from a nationalist catholic community which for years suffered discrimination and violence in the name of said Ulster Flag. His own uncle was shot in its name. That is the issue and Heganboy whether you like it or not it is an issue for many people in much the same way the tricolour is for the unionist community. I would prefer to see all flags taken out of sport where identities are divided. The proliferation of Ulster Flags in 1999 was due in large part to the DUP who handed them out free. Ulster Rugby actually plays under the old 9 County Flag which predates partition.
I think that you do have problem with him playing for GB (if that be his wish)

He was obviously brought up by parents in a difficult and  divided society who ensured that he mixed with both ussuns and themmuns through his schooling etc. That upbringing has evidently manifested itself in a fairly mature and rounded adult ideal for 21st Century NI.

The only flag that "Ulster Rugby" have any association with is the one with their logo printed on it.

DUP handing out free  flags in '99??  You're having a laugh. I got mine in Dublin. ;)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Olaf on January 09, 2013, 06:53:52 PM
Well said, heganboy.

+1
+2
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: muppet on January 09, 2013, 07:00:23 PM
Well said, heganboy.

+1

2 over
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stew on January 09, 2013, 07:07:25 PM
G Mac has a bit of maturity behind him and he obviously doesnt give a damn about politics or what people think, he also realizes that like himself, McIlroy is in a losing situation here, for some on here to say it would be cowardly and low pay option or whatever is ridiculous.

I have a 22 year old daughter, McIlroy is a year older, she, like Rory has a lot to learn yet, time and the maturation process will see McIlroy come into his own and I am sure he will listen to G Mac and Darren Clarke. I really think there will come a time when he sheds his apprehension over such infantile issues as what flag he plays for as he plays to make a living for himself and his family.

The bottom line is this, Rory is a special talent and some can mask it any way they want, some don't like him because they think he is going to play for the brits and others don't like him because he is successful, I mean look at it this way, take away the hundreds of millions in the bank, the flashy motors, the corporate sponsorship, the deadly looking athlete he is banging and the family and friends that have always taken care of him and supported him and what have you got left????

A great kid that is unpretentious and has done nothing to be the subject of bile and ridicule on here or on any other forum.

One last thing, I never met the man, I am certainly not going to dislike him based on what i have seen of him or read about him, what has he ev er said or done to offend anybody?? Feck the begrudgers.

Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: muppet on January 09, 2013, 07:31:20 PM
G Mac has a bit of maturity behind him and he obviously doesnt give a damn about politics or what people think, he also realizes that like himself, McIlroy is in a losing situation here, for some on here to say it would be cowardly and low pay option or whatever is ridiculous.

I have a 22 year old daughter, McIlroy is a year older, she, like Rory has a lot to learn yet, time and the maturation process will see McIlroy come into his own and I am sure he will listen to G Mac and Darren Clarke. I really think there will come a time when he sheds his apprehension over such infantile issues as what flag he plays for as he plays to make a living for himself and his family.

The bottom line is this, Rory is a special talent and some can mask it any way they want, some don't like him because they think he is going to play for the brits and others don't like him because he is successful, I mean look at it this way, take away the hundreds of millions in the bank, the flashy motors, the corporate sponsorship, the deadly looking athlete he is banging and the family and friends that have always taken care of him and supported him and what have you got left????

A great kid that is unpretentious and has done nothing to be the subject of bile and ridicule on here or on any other forum.

One last thing, I never met the man, I am certainly not going to dislike him based on what i have seen of him or read about him, what has he ev er said or done to offend anybody?? Feck the begrudgers.

Agree completely.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: sans pessimism on January 09, 2013, 07:56:26 PM
G Mac has a bit of maturity behind him and he obviously doesnt give a damn about politics or what people think, he also realizes that like himself, McIlroy is in a losing situation here, for some on here to say it would be cowardly and low pay option or whatever is ridiculous.

I have a 22 year old daughter, McIlroy is a year older, she, like Rory has a lot to learn yet, time and the maturation process will see McIlroy come into his own and I am sure he will listen to G Mac and Darren Clarke. I really think there will come a time when he sheds his apprehension over such infantile issues as what flag he plays for as he plays to make a living for himself and his family.

The bottom line is this, Rory is a special talent and some can mask it any way they want, some don't like him because they think he is going to play for the brits and others don't like him because he is successful, I mean look at it this way, take away the hundreds of millions in the bank, the flashy motors, the corporate sponsorship, the deadly looking athlete he is banging and the family and friends that have always taken care of him and supported him and what have you got left????

A great kid that is unpretentious and has done nothing to be the subject of bile and ridicule on here or on any other forum.

One last thing, I never met the man, I am certainly not going to dislike him based on what i have seen of him or read about him, what has he ev er said or done to offend anybody?? Feck the begrudgers.

Agree completely.
And by Jeez theres plenty of those sad hung up begrudgers on here
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on January 09, 2013, 08:07:15 PM

One last thing, I never met the man, I am certainly not going to dislike him based on what i have seen of him or read about him, what has he ev er said or done to offend anybody?? Feck the begrudgers.

Agree completely.
And by Jeez theres plenty of those sad hung up begrudgers on here

Really? How many would you say?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2013, 08:39:20 PM
At least one!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on January 10, 2013, 10:00:59 AM
I have no problem with McIlroy playing for GB if that is his wish, I have said he has the right to choose. He does however come from a nationalist catholic community which for years suffered discrimination and violence in the name of said Ulster Flag. His own uncle was shot in its name. That is the issue and Heganboy whether you like it or not it is an issue for many people in much the same way the tricolour is for the unionist community. I would prefer to see all flags taken out of sport where identities are divided. The proliferation of Ulster Flags in 1999 was due in large part to the DUP who handed them out free. Ulster Rugby actually plays under the old 9 County Flag which predates partition.
I think that you do have problem with him playing for GB (if that be his wish)

He was obviously brought up by parents in a difficult and  divided society who ensured that he mixed with both ussuns and themmuns through his schooling etc. That upbringing has evidently manifested itself in a fairly mature and rounded adult ideal for 21st Century NI.

The only flag that "Ulster Rugby" have any association with is the one with their logo printed on it.

DUP handing out free  flags in '99??  You're having a laugh. I got mine in Dublin. ;)
You are quite wrong their, yes as with the other provinces the Ulster Team has a badge which they have put on flags, check the Ulster Branch Website which is the controlling body for Ulster Rugby. And yes you may have got yours in Dublin but the DUP quite proudly advertised that they were giving them out.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Franko on January 10, 2013, 10:16:36 AM
I don't begrudge him anything.  Fair play to him - he's done well.  I just don't like him.  Is that OK with you guys?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on January 10, 2013, 10:20:23 AM
Jesus lads what we need is a discussion board where everybody agrees with everybody. McIlroy is an overpayed sportsman in a sport that has too many like him. To be clear I no more begrudge McIlroy his success than I would Clarke or G Mac, Woods or any other. He undoubtedly has talent. It is some what disengenous for people who don't know me to question my genuine belief that McIlroy has the right to choose, as has Marc Wilson, The Chambers, Darren Gibson, Paddy McCourt etc... I am also entitled to resent his use of a flag that has no official designation and under which close friends of mine were killed and injured. I have also quite clearly stated that flags need to be removed from sports where we expect Unionists and Nationalists to compete together. The crux of all of this a bit like the flag protests is that a shared future and mutual respect can only be done on terms that suit one community.

McIlroy has opened this can of worms for himself, compare the care with which G Mac and Clarke conduct themselves. He is young and certainly has been ill advised. I have no problem with his feeling Northern Irish as opposed to Irish or even his feeling of being British, given his schooling and where he was brought up that is understandable. My own childern would consider themselves Northern Irish and Irish and see no problem or contradiction.

Too many on this board resort to personal attacks rather than reason, and don't really want to understand that different people have different experiences which infuence our ideas and thoughts.If you look at some of my exchanges with Nally on other threads it will be apparent that I am quite liberal and consistent in my argument. More than can be said for some!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2013, 10:40:21 AM
Jesus lads what we need is a discussion board where everybody agrees with everybody. McIlroy is an overpayed sportsman in a sport that has too many like him. To be clear I no more begrudge McIlroy his success than I would Clarke or G Mac, Woods or any other. He undoubtedly has talent. It is some what disengenous for people who don't know me to question my genuine belief that McIlroy has the right to choose, as has Marc Wilson, The Chambers, Darren Gibson, Paddy McCourt etc... I am also entitled to resent his use of a flag that has no official designation and under which close friends of mine were killed and injured. I have also quite clearly stated that flags need to be removed from sports where we expect Unionists and Nationalists to compete together. The crux of all of this a bit like the flag protests is that a shared future and mutual respect can only be done on terms that suit one community.

McIlroy has opened this can of worms for himself, compare the care with which G Mac and Clarke conduct themselves. He is young and certainly has been ill advised. I have no problem with his feeling Northern Irish as opposed to Irish or even his feeling of being British, given his schooling and where he was brought up that is understandable. My own childern would consider themselves Northern Irish and Irish and see no problem or contradiction.

Too many on this board resort to personal attacks rather than reason, and don't really want to understand that different people have different experiences which infuence our ideas and thoughts.If you look at some of my exchanges with Nally on other threads it will be apparent that I am quite liberal and consistent in my argument. More than can be said for some!

Would it be fair to say you had a personal attack of Rory?

I'd be happy with peoples views on sportsmen being paid too much but that's the nature of the beast, I think when a kid as young as 5/6 picks up a sport he doesn't realise that that sport will actually pay his big money if he turns out to be a goodin. He plays it cause he enjoys it, anything after tat is a bonus.

I don't think that Rory runs over and throws the N.I unofficial flag on himself, fans possibly with another agenda do or fans of N.I sportsmen do. As for being ill advised, I think in the past or present we've all been guilty of being ill advised, no one is perfect. I've said before if you don't like his personality then fine if you don't like him because he may pick one side over another then that (in my opinion) is different.

I can't sometimes get this place, we've had some great sports people over the years and we always have the opinion that we or them own him ffs. Mary Peters had death threats, Barry McGuigan had death threats while in their prime in this place. They were number one at their game, came from such a small province and yet we have so many knockers about. Rory McIlroy is number one in a sport that the Americans have dominated for years (namely Tiger) and he's from Co. Down, that's some achievement. I've yet to see an interview from him that he has been rude, bad or said anything that would give the impression that warrants some of the things said here, but each to their OWN I suppose
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Rossfan on January 10, 2013, 12:15:26 PM
You are quite wrong their,
2 penalty points  ;D
Hopefully you aren't an English teacher too  ::)

I don't really like McIlroy or golf for that matter.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on January 10, 2013, 12:31:28 PM
Lets be clear, I am not making any personal attack on McIlroy. Whoever gave him the flag, and one was presented by his father, he chose to wrap himself in it and that was clearly his choice, as it was to throw a tricolour to the ground. Fans whether Irish or otherwise sholud not be foisting these flags on him in any case. I am quite entitled to have an opinion on his choice of flag and his use of it. The Flag of the Ulster Branch GUI is the same as that for the IRFU Ulster Branch and perhaps would be more appropriate?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 10, 2013, 12:40:05 PM
Lets be clear, I am not making any personal attack on McIlroy. Whoever gave him the flag, and one was presented by his father, he chose to wrap himself in it and that was clearly his choice, as it was to throw a tricolour to the ground. Fans whether Irish or otherwise sholud not be foisting these flags on him in any case. I am quite entitled to have an opinion on his choice of flag and his use of it. The Flag of the Ulster Branch GUI is the same as that for the IRFU Ulster Branch and perhaps would be more appropriate?

Yes, it would if you were worried about flegs, a bit like those eejits in Belfast and other towns that are worried about flegs.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on January 10, 2013, 02:40:21 PM
Lets be clear, I am not making any personal attack on McIlroy. Whoever gave him the flag, and one was presented by his father, he chose to wrap himself in it and that was clearly his choice, as it was to throw a tricolour to the ground. Fans whether Irish or otherwise sholud not be foisting these flags on him in any case. I am quite entitled to have an opinion on his choice of flag and his use of it. The Flag of the Ulster Branch GUI is the same as that for the IRFU Ulster Branch and perhaps would be more appropriate?

Yes, it would if you were worried about flegs, a bit like those eejits in Belfast and other towns that are worried about flegs.
Like it or not they matter, but this is not the same as portraying designated days as some sort of defeat.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: heganboy on January 10, 2013, 03:09:46 PM
Like it or not they matter

they matter? what is more accurate to say is that they matter to you. Maybe you'd like to share with us why they matter so much to you?like it or not...
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Olaf on January 10, 2013, 03:34:59 PM
I have no problem with McIlroy playing for GB if that is his wish, I have said he has the right to choose. He does however come from a nationalist catholic community which for years suffered discrimination and violence in the name of said Ulster Flag. His own uncle was shot in its name. That is the issue and Heganboy whether you like it or not it is an issue for many people in much the same way the tricolour is for the unionist community. I would prefer to see all flags taken out of sport where identities are divided. The proliferation of Ulster Flags in 1999 was due in large part to the DUP who handed them out free. Ulster Rugby actually plays under the old 9 County Flag which predates partition.
I think that you do have problem with him playing for GB (if that be his wish)

He was obviously brought up by parents in a difficult and  divided society who ensured that he mixed with both ussuns and themmuns through his schooling etc. That upbringing has evidently manifested itself in a fairly mature and rounded adult ideal for 21st Century NI.

The only flag that "Ulster Rugby" have any association with is the one with their logo printed on it.

DUP handing out free  flags in '99??  You're having a laugh. I got mine in Dublin. ;)
You are quite wrong their, yes as with the other provinces the Ulster Team has a badge which they have put on flags, check the Ulster Branch Website which is the controlling body for Ulster Rugby. And yes you may have got yours in Dublin but the DUP quite proudly advertised that they were giving them out.

The team that plays at Ravenhill does not represent the old province of Ulster - it is a club  like all others in professional rugby.  That said it obviously has a connection to this part of the world (and other parts) hence the variety of colourful flags on show which I must say makes it a bit of a spectacle and which I quite like. What goes on the pitch is more important though .

Rory likes the rugby too doesn't he . Maybe the diversity attracts him as well as a feeling of connection to the team.

I get the feeling that , ulike yourself , the only flags that he is really concerned with are those positioned on the short grass.

Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: imtommygunn on January 10, 2013, 04:40:24 PM
I think he's actually a sponsor and puts quite a bit of money into Ulster rugby.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2013, 09:57:13 AM
I think he's actually a sponsor and puts quite a bit of money into Ulster rugby.

I believe or was led to believe that he pays one of the main players wages!!

I see he's acting the eejit again and started a Charity foundation FFS!! Is there no end to him being a dcik :o No doubt he'll get a telling off from some of our posters here
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Franko on January 11, 2013, 10:04:22 AM
Wullie Frazer started a charity foundation at a stage.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hardy on January 11, 2013, 10:50:11 AM
I think he's actually a sponsor and puts quite a bit of money into Ulster rugby.

I believe or was led to believe that he pays one of the main players wages!!

I see he's acting the eejit again and started a Charity foundation FFS!! Is there no end to him being a dcik :o No doubt he'll get a telling off from some of our posters here

That depends - is it a Catholic charity foundation or a Protestant charity foundation or, worst of all, a cowardly cop-out non-denominational charity foundation?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2013, 11:21:28 AM
Wullie Frazer started a charity foundation at a stage.

7 minutes! Well done,  I was expecting a better response but that will do.......
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Franko on January 11, 2013, 11:26:30 AM
I really love how much my dislike of Rory McIlroy annoys you guys!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Franko on January 11, 2013, 11:36:57 AM
I think he's actually a sponsor and puts quite a bit of money into Ulster rugby.

I believe or was led to believe that he pays one of the main players wages!!

I see he's acting the eejit again and started a Charity foundation FFS!! Is there no end to him being a dcik :o No doubt he'll get a telling off from some of our posters here

That depends - is it a Catholic charity foundation or a Protestant charity foundation or, worst of all, a cowardly cop-out non-denominational charity foundation?

I couldn't care what side of the fence Rory positions himself on.  I do think it is cowardly not to make a decision and miss out on representing his country (whichever one that may be) in the Olympics because he doesn't want to offend people.  That's the very basis of my opinion on him.  He tries too hard to be liked and comes across as not being genuine.  Listen to any of his interviews - endless platitudes and soundbytes which really say nothing.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2013, 12:10:58 PM
A sportsman giving endless platitudes and soundbytes which really say nothing, shock horror!! There mustn't not be a sportsman/woman  you like then, as they all are guilty of that
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Megaman on January 11, 2013, 12:14:59 PM
I think he's actually a sponsor and puts quite a bit of money into Ulster rugby.

I believe or was led to believe that he pays one of the main players wages!!

I see he's acting the eejit again and started a Charity foundation FFS!! Is there no end to him being a dcik :o No doubt he'll get a telling off from some of our posters here

That depends - is it a Catholic charity foundation or a Protestant charity foundation or, worst of all, a cowardly cop-out non-denominational charity foundation?

I couldn't care what side of the fence Rory positions himself on.  I do think it is cowardly not to make a decision and miss out on representing his country (whichever one that may be) in the Olympics because he doesn't want to offend people.  That's the very basis of my opinion on him.  He tries too hard to be liked and comes across as not being genuine.  Listen to any of his interviews - endless platitudes and soundbytes which really say nothing.

Listen to 99% of golf interviews and thats what they are like, McDowell is the worst of them all for that.

Most sports people cant say what they want on interviews, they mostly say what the viewers want to hear.

ive met him twice and albeit for a very short time i found him to be very friendly and took the time to speak to me, which he didnt have to.

Dont see how it would be cowardly btw.

i also woldnt say im a massive fan either and i think he should choose to play for ireland but would understand if he said sod it i wont play at all, which would be sad, not cowardly IMHO
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: sans pessimism on January 11, 2013, 12:28:19 PM
Jesus lads what we need is a discussion board where everybody agrees with everybody. McIlroy is an overpayed sportsman in a sport that has too many like him. To be clear I no more begrudge McIlroy his success than I would Clarke or G Mac, Woods or any other. He undoubtedly has talent. It is some what disengenous for people who don't know me to question my genuine belief that McIlroy has the right to choose, as has Marc Wilson, The Chambers, Darren Gibson, Paddy McCourt etc... I am also entitled to resent his use of a flag that has no official designation and under which close friends of mine were killed and injured. I have also quite clearly stated that flags need to be removed from sports where we expect Unionists and Nationalists to compete together. The crux of all of this a bit like the flag protests is that a shared future and mutual respect can only be done on terms that suit one community.

McIlroy has opened this can of worms for himself, compare the care with which G Mac and Clarke conduct themselves. He is young and certainly has been ill advised. I have no problem with his feeling Northern Irish as opposed to Irish or even his feeling of being British, given his schooling and where he was brought up that is understandable. My own childern would consider themselves Northern Irish and Irish and see no problem or contradiction.

Too many on this board resort to personal attacks rather than reason, and don't really want to understand that different people have different experiences which infuence our ideas and thoughts.If you look at some of my exchanges with Nally on other threads it will be apparent that I am quite liberal and consistent in my argument. More than can be said for some!

Would it be fair to say you had a personal attack of Rory?

I'd be happy with peoples views on sportsmen being paid too much but that's the nature of the beast, I think when a kid as young as 5/6 picks up a sport he doesn't realise that that sport will actually pay his big money if he turns out to be a goodin. He plays it cause he enjoys it, anything after tat is a bonus.

I don't think that Rory runs over and throws the N.I unofficial flag on himself, fans possibly with another agenda do or fans of N.I sportsmen do. As for being ill advised, I think in the past or present we've all been guilty of being ill advised, no one is perfect. I've said before if you don't like his personality then fine if you don't like him because he may pick one side over another then that (in my opinion) is different.

I can't sometimes get this place, we've had some great sports people over the years and we always have the opinion that we or them own him ffs. Mary Peters had death threats, Barry McGuigan had death threats while in their prime in this place. They were number one at their game, came from such a small province and yet we have so many knockers about. Rory McIlroy is number one in a sport that the Americans have dominated for years (namely Tiger) and he's from Co. Down, that's some achievement. I've yet to see an interview from him that he has been rude, bad or said anything that would give the impression that warrants some of the things said here, but each to their OWN I suppose
Join the club MR2!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Franko on January 11, 2013, 01:23:08 PM
A sportsman giving endless platitudes and soundbytes which really say nothing, shock horror!! There mustn't not be a sportsman/woman  you like then, as they all are guilty of that

Bit of a head wrecker there MR2!  Like I said before, I get a sense of falseness from him.  Just my opinion of course.  I dont understand why this has caused such consternation amongst you though!  Is it a prerequisite that you must like him because he is local and successful?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on January 11, 2013, 01:32:01 PM
I have no problem with McIlroy playing for GB if that is his wish, I have said he has the right to choose. He does however come from a nationalist catholic community which for years suffered discrimination and violence in the name of said Ulster Flag. His own uncle was shot in its name. That is the issue and Heganboy whether you like it or not it is an issue for many people in much the same way the tricolour is for the unionist community. I would prefer to see all flags taken out of sport where identities are divided. The proliferation of Ulster Flags in 1999 was due in large part to the DUP who handed them out free. Ulster Rugby actually plays under the old 9 County Flag which predates partition.
I think that you do have problem with him playing for GB (if that be his wish)

He was obviously brought up by parents in a difficult and  divided society who ensured that he mixed with both ussuns and themmuns through his schooling etc. That upbringing has evidently manifested itself in a fairly mature and rounded adult ideal for 21st Century NI.

The only flag that "Ulster Rugby" have any association with is the one with their logo printed on it.

DUP handing out free  flags in '99??  You're having a laugh. I got mine in Dublin. ;)
You are quite wrong their, yes as with the other provinces the Ulster Team has a badge which they have put on flags, check the Ulster Branch Website which is the controlling body for Ulster Rugby. And yes you may have got yours in Dublin but the DUP quite proudly advertised that they were giving them out.

The team that plays at Ravenhill does not represent the old province of Ulster - it is a club  like all others in professional rugby.  That said it obviously has a connection to this part of the world (and other parts) hence the variety of colourful flags on show which I must say makes it a bit of a spectacle and which I quite like. What goes on the pitch is more important though .

Rory likes the rugby too doesn't he . Maybe the diversity attracts him as well as a feeling of connection to the team.

I get the feeling that , ulike yourself , the only flags that he is really concerned with are those positioned on the short grass.
Absolute bullshit, what you are saying would make the NI flag irrelevant. It plays Rugby Union, draws its players from Ulster Clubs (and abroad too) but this is all regulated by the Ulster Branch of the IRFU. You OWC revisionism does not stand the test. Check the web site, the Ulster Branch Club Rugby has its own section...inextricably linked to coin a phrase.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on January 11, 2013, 01:35:14 PM
Like it or not they matter

they matter? what is more accurate to say is that they matter to you. Maybe you'd like to share with us why they matter so much to you?like it or not...
Yes Flags emblems and equality matter to me and to others, and I feel we need to be sensitive in their use. The Designated days is not equality but it is a worthy compromise and not a defeat for loyalism. They may not mean the same to others, but that is democracy and freedom of choice.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on January 11, 2013, 01:37:04 PM
I think he's actually a sponsor and puts quite a bit of money into Ulster rugby.

I believe or was led to believe that he pays one of the main players wages!!

I see he's acting the eejit again and started a Charity foundation FFS!! Is there no end to him being a dcik :o No doubt he'll get a telling off from some of our posters here

That depends - is it a Catholic charity foundation or a Protestant charity foundation or, worst of all, a cowardly cop-out non-denominational charity foundation?

I couldn't care what side of the fence Rory positions himself on.  I do think it is cowardly not to make a decision and miss out on representing his country (whichever one that may be) in the Olympics because he doesn't want to offend people.  That's the very basis of my opinion on him.  He tries too hard to be liked and comes across as not being genuine.  Listen to any of his interviews - endless platitudes and soundbytes which really say nothing.
+1
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Olaf on January 11, 2013, 01:53:06 PM
I have no problem with McIlroy playing for GB if that is his wish, I have said he has the right to choose. He does however come from a nationalist catholic community which for years suffered discrimination and violence in the name of said Ulster Flag. His own uncle was shot in its name. That is the issue and Heganboy whether you like it or not it is an issue for many people in much the same way the tricolour is for the unionist community. I would prefer to see all flags taken out of sport where identities are divided. The proliferation of Ulster Flags in 1999 was due in large part to the DUP who handed them out free. Ulster Rugby actually plays under the old 9 County Flag which predates partition.
I think that you do have problem with him playing for GB (if that be his wish)

He was obviously brought up by parents in a difficult and  divided society who ensured that he mixed with both ussuns and themmuns through his schooling etc. That upbringing has evidently manifested itself in a fairly mature and rounded adult ideal for 21st Century NI.

The only flag that "Ulster Rugby" have any association with is the one with their logo printed on it.

DUP handing out free  flags in '99??  You're having a laugh. I got mine in Dublin. ;)
You are quite wrong their, yes as with the other provinces the Ulster Team has a badge which they have put on flags, check the Ulster Branch Website which is the controlling body for Ulster Rugby. And yes you may have got yours in Dublin but the DUP quite proudly advertised that they were giving them out.

The team that plays at Ravenhill does not represent the old province of Ulster - it is a club  like all others in professional rugby.  That said it obviously has a connection to this part of the world (and other parts) hence the variety of colourful flags on show which I must say makes it a bit of a spectacle and which I quite like. What goes on the pitch is more important though .

Rory likes the rugby too doesn't he . Maybe the diversity attracts him as well as a feeling of connection to the team.

I get the feeling that , ulike yourself , the only flags that he is really concerned with are those positioned on the short grass.
Absolute bullshit, what you are saying would make the NI flag irrelevant. It plays Rugby Union, draws its players from Ulster Clubs (and abroad too) but this is all regulated by the Ulster Branch of the IRFU. You OWC revisionism does not stand the test.

Relevant to the extent that a large number of the players were born and  brought up in NI.

Ulster flags , NI flags , Saffa flags, St Patrick flags ,Rising Sun flags - relevant or not still make for a colourful spectacle. Pity you can't enjoy it.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: heganboy on January 11, 2013, 03:46:54 PM

Yes Flags emblems and equality matter to me and to others, and I feel we need to be sensitive in their use. The Designated days is not equality but it is a worthy compromise and not a defeat for loyalism. They may not mean the same to others, but that is democracy and freedom of choice.

ok I hear you that the flag issue is sensitive. no issue with that. perfectly reasonable comment.

now back to Roy McIlroy please let me know why your post mentions or has anything to do with equality, Designated days and defeat for loyalism.Equality? Democracy and freedom of choice?
If you had any belief in any of the above it is apparent that you would agree Rory has the right to do what he wants (that'll be the equality and freedom of choice parts)

By any chance are you a politician? You took a question, shaped up as if you were going to answer it, and then waffled about democracy and equality.

apples may be apples, but you're apples and oranges posts aren't fooling anyone...

Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on January 11, 2013, 03:54:57 PM
I am on record in serveral places on this board saying that RM is entitled to choose to play for what ever country he feels happy with. I have no particular problem with him as a British Citizen wrapping the Union Flag around him. I do have issues with the unoffcial Ulster Flag being portrayed as a Flag that represents the broad spectrum of opinion in NI. It is a devisive loyalist emblem. That is my beef, and one I am quite entitled to have. The comment about designated days was to illustrate context as much as any thing.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on January 11, 2013, 03:58:23 PM
I have no problem with McIlroy playing for GB if that is his wish, I have said he has the right to choose. He does however come from a nationalist catholic community which for years suffered discrimination and violence in the name of said Ulster Flag. His own uncle was shot in its name. That is the issue and Heganboy whether you like it or not it is an issue for many people in much the same way the tricolour is for the unionist community. I would prefer to see all flags taken out of sport where identities are divided. The proliferation of Ulster Flags in 1999 was due in large part to the DUP who handed them out free. Ulster Rugby actually plays under the old 9 County Flag which predates partition.
I think that you do have problem with him playing for GB (if that be his wish)

He was obviously brought up by parents in a difficult and  divided society who ensured that he mixed with both ussuns and themmuns through his schooling etc. That upbringing has evidently manifested itself in a fairly mature and rounded adult ideal for 21st Century NI.

The only flag that "Ulster Rugby" have any association with is the one with their logo printed on it.

DUP handing out free  flags in '99??  You're having a laugh. I got mine in Dublin. ;)
You are quite wrong their, yes as with the other provinces the Ulster Team has a badge which they have put on flags, check the Ulster Branch Website which is the controlling body for Ulster Rugby. And yes you may have got yours in Dublin but the DUP quite proudly advertised that they were giving them out.

The team that plays at Ravenhill does not represent the old province of Ulster - it is a club  like all others in professional rugby.  That said it obviously has a connection to this part of the world (and other parts) hence the variety of colourful flags on show which I must say makes it a bit of a spectacle and which I quite like. What goes on the pitch is more important though .

Rory likes the rugby too doesn't he . Maybe the diversity attracts him as well as a feeling of connection to the team.

I get the feeling that , ulike yourself , the only flags that he is really concerned with are those positioned on the short grass.
Absolute bullshit, what you are saying would make the NI flag irrelevant. It plays Rugby Union, draws its players from Ulster Clubs (and abroad too) but this is all regulated by the Ulster Branch of the IRFU. You OWC revisionism does not stand the test.

Relevant to the extent that a large number of the players were born and  brought up in NI.

Ulster flags , NI flags , Saffa flags, St Patrick flags ,Rising Sun flags - relevant or not still make for a colourful spectacle. Pity you can't enjoy it.
Actually I can and do enjoy it, on a point of principle though I would prefer to see tricolours/ni flags and other divisive flags left at home. But unfortunately that is not the society in which we live.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: heganboy on January 11, 2013, 05:29:45 PM
I am on record in serveral places on this board saying that RM is entitled to choose to play for what ever country he feels happy with. I have no particular problem with him as a British Citizen wrapping the Union Flag around him. I do have issues with the unoffcial Ulster Flag being portrayed as a Flag that represents the broad spectrum of opinion in NI. It is a devisive loyalist emblem. That is my beef, and one I am quite entitled to have. The comment about designated days was to illustrate context as much as any thing.

Rory has told both the European and US PGAs that he is more comfortable with being designated as "Northern Irish" than British or Irish and as a result that is how he as well as a few others are referenced in their literature, website and tv coverage.

With that in mind, how would such a sensitive, entitled, issue laden soul such as yourself suggest as his course of action given your strong (and yet completely selective) views on equality and freedom of choice? And what flag would you allow him to express his freedom of choice on the matter without you having a beef or a "particular" problem? what design and colour of piece of fabric in "particular" would you allow to have draped around his shoulders after hitting golf balls(probably only on designated days) that would constitute Rory reaching a "worthy compromise" with you?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Olaf on January 11, 2013, 11:28:19 PM
I have no problem with McIlroy playing for GB if that is his wish, I have said he has the right to choose. He does however come from a nationalist catholic community which for years suffered discrimination and violence in the name of said Ulster Flag. His own uncle was shot in its name. That is the issue and Heganboy whether you like it or not it is an issue for many people in much the same way the tricolour is for the unionist community. I would prefer to see all flags taken out of sport where identities are divided. The proliferation of Ulster Flags in 1999 was due in large part to the DUP who handed them out free. Ulster Rugby actually plays under the old 9 County Flag which predates partition.
I think that you do have problem with him playing for GB (if that be his wish)

He was obviously brought up by parents in a difficult and  divided society who ensured that he mixed with both ussuns and themmuns through his schooling etc. That upbringing has evidently manifested itself in a fairly mature and rounded adult ideal for 21st Century NI.

The only flag that "Ulster Rugby" have any association with is the one with their logo printed on it.

DUP handing out free  flags in '99??  You're having a laugh. I got mine in Dublin. ;)
You are quite wrong their, yes as with the other provinces the Ulster Team has a badge which they have put on flags, check the Ulster Branch Website which is the controlling body for Ulster Rugby. And yes you may have got yours in Dublin but the DUP quite proudly advertised that they were giving them out.

The team that plays at Ravenhill does not represent the old province of Ulster - it is a club  like all others in professional rugby.  That said it obviously has a connection to this part of the world (and other parts) hence the variety of colourful flags on show which I must say makes it a bit of a spectacle and which I quite like. What goes on the pitch is more important though .

Rory likes the rugby too doesn't he . Maybe the diversity attracts him as well as a feeling of connection to the team.

I get the feeling that , ulike yourself , the only flags that he is really concerned with are those positioned on the short grass.
Absolute bullshit, what you are saying would make the NI flag irrelevant. It plays Rugby Union, draws its players from Ulster Clubs (and abroad too) but this is all regulated by the Ulster Branch of the IRFU. You OWC revisionism does not stand the test.

Relevant to the extent that a large number of the players were born and  brought up in NI.

Ulster flags , NI flags , Saffa flags, St Patrick flags ,Rising Sun flags - relevant or not still make for a colourful spectacle. Pity you can't enjoy it.
Actually I can and do enjoy it, on a point of principle though I would prefer to see tricolours/ni flags and other divisive flags left at home. But unfortunately that is not the society in which we live.

Get yourself down early to both Ravenhill and the Aviva on match days then . You'll have a lot of collecting to do at the gate.  ;)

Thousands upon thousands of Unionists from north of the border have flocked to Landsdowne/Aviva over the years and have been surrounded by tri-colours. However most  if not all of them have been more concerned with what happens on the pitch after the ref blows his whistle.

Anyway back to Rory ....I'm more concerned with what he does on the green stuff too.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on January 14, 2013, 02:04:44 PM
I am on record in serveral places on this board saying that RM is entitled to choose to play for what ever country he feels happy with. I have no particular problem with him as a British Citizen wrapping the Union Flag around him. I do have issues with the unoffcial Ulster Flag being portrayed as a Flag that represents the broad spectrum of opinion in NI. It is a devisive loyalist emblem. That is my beef, and one I am quite entitled to have. The comment about designated days was to illustrate context as much as any thing.

Rory has told both the European and US PGAs that he is more comfortable with being designated as "Northern Irish" than British or Irish and as a result that is how he as well as a few others are referenced in their literature, website and tv coverage.

With that in mind, how would such a sensitive, entitled, issue laden soul such as yourself suggest as his course of action given your strong (and yet completely selective) views on equality and freedom of choice? And what flag would you allow him to express his freedom of choice on the matter without you having a beef or a "particular" problem? what design and colour of piece of fabric in "particular" would you allow to have draped around his shoulders after hitting golf balls(probably only on designated days) that would constitute Rory reaching a "worthy compromise" with you?
We keep being told that we need a shared future. The use of the Loyalist Flag is erroneous if McIlroy wants to be depicted as Northern Irish that is of no concern to me. I am simply pointing out that the use of this flag is not inclusive. Why personalize many nationalist take issue with this flag.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 14, 2013, 02:18:38 PM
I believe young Ruairi is being officially getting his 100 million dollar Nike sponsorship cheque in Abu Dhabi today so I would say this is pretty far from his mind!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2013, 03:05:20 PM
I believe young Ruairi is being officially getting his 100 million dollar Nike sponsorship cheque in Abu Dhabi today so I would say this is pretty far from his mind!

$50,000 a day it works out, some dough all the same. He'd be ripping at the comments made here alright :o

Stephen Watson was asked the question this morning on Radio Ulster why Nike wanted Rory, the fool said because they were looking someone cool!! Rory at the minute is the best in the world at Golf, number one. But if you were thinking of someone cool, then Rory wouldn't be the first thing that would spring to mind, Watson is such a brown nose that he almost makes me sick listening to his commentry
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Bingo on January 14, 2013, 03:21:56 PM
I believe young Ruairi is being officially getting his 100 million dollar Nike sponsorship cheque in Abu Dhabi today so I would say this is pretty far from his mind!

$50,000 a day it works out, some dough all the same. He'd be ripping at the comments made here alright :o

Stephen Watson was asked the question this morning on Radio Ulster why Nike wanted Rory, the fool said because they were looking someone cool!! Rory at the minute is the best in the world at Golf, number one. But if you were thinking of someone cool, then Rory wouldn't be the first thing that would spring to mind, Watson is such a brown nose that he almost makes me sick listening to his commentry

Golf cool and General cool would be very different. You have to think about who plays golf round the world, particularly in the states and in the Far East, its a whole different cool. Nike see Rory as a young, exciting talent, travels the world, dresses smart, pin-up tennis playing girlfriend, thats mega cool on the golfing world.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: heganboy on January 14, 2013, 03:43:11 PM

We keep being told that we need a shared future. The use of the Loyalist Flag is erroneous if McIlroy wants to be depicted as Northern Irish that is of no concern to me. I am simply pointing out that the use of this flag is not inclusive. Why personalize many nationalist take issue with this flag.
so what are you suggesting? he is declaring Northern Irish to avoid declaring British or Irish, its as close to middle of the road as he can get. Maybe he should just have a big swoosh, or maybe you should be managing all fleg negotiations on his behalf
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: heganboy on January 14, 2013, 03:55:11 PM
rory and tiger's new Nike ad

http://youtu.be/2NCDYjHtEcU


Dude is that your real hair?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2013, 04:13:52 PM
rory and tiger's new Nike ad

http://youtu.be/2NCDYjHtEcU


Dude is that your real hair?

Good ad
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Declan on January 14, 2013, 04:59:30 PM
Word on the fairways is that Rory is struggling with the new driver - up to 35 yards shorter than before >:( >:(

No problems with irons apparently  but the big dog is worrying
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: midLouth on January 14, 2013, 05:02:36 PM
I'm sure they'll be able to tweek it so he gets his regular yardage, not easy changing clubs.

Love the advert with the two of them, marketing must be fun with Nike with the host of stars they have on their books!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AQMP on January 14, 2013, 05:20:06 PM
rory and tiger's new Nike ad

http://youtu.be/2NCDYjHtEcU


Dude is that your real hair?

Good ad

Nice bit of schtick work there from Tiger.  Bit of U21 experience from what I hear.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on January 14, 2013, 05:28:38 PM
That commercial is fun to watch - enjoyed the comments underneath, particularly

"Notice Rory is the one wearing Red"

and

"2 guys, 1 cup".
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: thebigfella on January 14, 2013, 05:45:53 PM
Word on the fairways is that Rory is struggling with the new driver - up to 35 yards shorter than before >:( >:(

No problems with irons apparently  but the big dog is worrying

Heard different myself, apparently his ball speed has increased to over 180mph (with the titleist 913, he was around the 175mph mark).

People seem to forget that he changed his driver last year to the 913D3 prototype, certainly had no issues then and there is certainly no reason to think he'll struggle with Nike. It will be interesting to see how he gets on with the new ball though.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Declan on January 14, 2013, 06:02:11 PM
Quote
Heard different myself, apparently his ball speed has increased to over 180mph (with the titleist 913, he was around the 175mph mark).

I'll see your source and raise you one ;) ;)

It'll be interesting to watch alright
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: thebigfella on January 14, 2013, 06:09:59 PM
Quote
Heard different myself, apparently his ball speed has increased to over 180mph (with the titleist 913, he was around the 175mph mark).

I'll see your source and raise you one ;) ;)

It'll be interesting to watch alright

He didn't look to be struggling at the Els club the other day ;)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on January 14, 2013, 07:54:55 PM
rory and tiger's new Nike ad

http://youtu.be/2NCDYjHtEcU


Dude is that your real hair?

His hair is fine....





as long as its hidden under a hat.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on January 14, 2013, 09:46:43 PM
Quote
Heard different myself, apparently his ball speed has increased to over 180mph (with the titleist 913, he was around the 175mph mark).

I'll see your source and raise you one ;) ;)

It'll be interesting to watch alright

http://www.golfwrx.com/63175/nike-announces-rory-mcilroy-sponsorship/ (http://www.golfwrx.com/63175/nike-announces-rory-mcilroy-sponsorship/)

Unless we are going to be skeptical and believe that Rory is lying when he said he had picked up extra distance with the driver and his ball speed had increased from 175 to 180mph - I am curious to know who your source might be!

I would seriously doubt that a player of his calibre would lose 35 yards with the big dog. He's not like you and me, going and grabbing a driver off the rack and Nevada bobs. He has his choice of shafts in the market, the OEMs do not specify what shaft a player uses, and with that he will be able to get as close to the titleist product specs than most. He may need a different shaft from what he had in the titleist, but he will get close.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: leaveherinsir on January 14, 2013, 10:46:56 PM
Quote
Heard different myself, apparently his ball speed has increased to over 180mph (with the titleist 913, he was around the 175mph mark).

I'll see your source and raise you one ;) ;)

It'll be interesting to watch alright

http://www.golfwrx.com/63175/nike-announces-rory-mcilroy-sponsorship/ (http://www.golfwrx.com/63175/nike-announces-rory-mcilroy-sponsorship/)

Unless we are going to be skeptical and believe that Rory is lying when he said he had picked up extra distance with the driver and his ball speed had increased from 175 to 180mph - I am curious to know who your source might be!

I would seriously doubt that a player of his calibre would lose 35 yards with the big dog. He's not like you and me, going and grabbing a driver off the rack and Nevada bobs. He has his choice of shafts in the market, the OEMs do not specify what shaft a player uses, and with that he will be able to get as close to the titleist product specs than most. He may need a different shaft from what he had in the titleist, but he will get close.
Agreed. These boys don't lose 35 yards off the tee. Unless he was testing her out on a fierce windy day at the port! Fair play to him on the sponsorship deal.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on January 15, 2013, 01:07:42 AM
Rory promoting divisivness again.


Breaking down Oakley’s lawsuit against Nike

Eye-wear giant, Oakley, filed suit in Federal Court in California on December 10, 2012, against Rory McIlroy for breach of contract. The suit alleges McIlroy breached the terms of his contract  with Oakley by refusing to accept Oakley’s offer to match the clothing and eye-wear portion of McIlroy’s Nike contract. Oakley claims the terms of their contract with McIlroy allowed them the right to match any deal McIlroy may sign with another company.
 
In court papers, Oakley estimates the value of the eye-wear and clothing portion of McIlroy’s new deal with Nike at 30 percent of the total contract. The actual amount is left blank in the suit, but, assuming Nike is paying McIlroy $200 million dollars, Oakley would have offered somewhere between $60 to $70 million to retain his services.
 
Oakley is further alleging they are irreparably harmed by McIlroy’s refusal to renew his contract with Oakley, and an injunction should be issued against McIlroy and Nike from contracting. The argument is that monetary damages cannot make Oakley whole for McIlroy’s breach of contract. Oakley will likely cite to the “intrinsic” value of having the No. 1 player in the world sporting their gear, and there is no way to quantify the amount that is worth. If the injunction is successful, McIlroy would not be allowed to wear Nike gear or eyewear until the lawsuit is decided.
 
The issue will likely come down to a number of emails between Oakley and McIlroy’s representatives. In September of 2012, an Oakley representative emailed McIlory’s agent, saying, “We are out of the mix, no contract for 2013.” McIlroy’s attorneys will argue Oakley waived their right of first refusal by saying they were out of the picture allowing McIlroy to sign with whomever he wanted. Oakley is pointing to emails from October of 2012 from McIlroy’s attorneys stating, “[McIlroy] would not be continuing his relationship with Oakley beyond Dec. 31″ and they “would not engage in any further correspondence on the matter of the right of first refusal.”
 
Even if Oakley’s lawsuit is successful, it is highly unlikely we will see Rory sporting Oakley gear again. Contract law is pretty clear; only in rare circumstances will a court order a person or company to specially perform under the terms of a contract. McIlroy may coff up some of his Nike money, but that means little. However, that doesn’t mean Oakley won’t attempt to argue this is one of those rare circumstances where a person of Rory’s value should be bound to perform under the terms of his contract.
 
But it hasn’t been all bad news for Oakley. The “O” has already taken steps to mitigate the loss of McIlroy by signing Zack Johnson and Bubba Watson for the 2013 season. Johnson, who already wore Oakley sunglasses, will now sport Oakley’s golf apparel line as well.
 
Oakley’s largest golfing market is America, and Bubba is more marketable to the average American than McIlroy will ever be. He has a goofy personality, is prolific on Twitter, doesn’t mind a good cry and hits the ball ridiculously long. Plus, one would have to assume that Bubba and Zach Johnson signed for much less combined than the $60 to $70 million Oakley offered McIlroy. By the end of the year, we may be calling Bubba and Johnson a better signing for the money than McIlroy.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on January 16, 2013, 11:21:56 AM
I believe young Ruairi is being officially getting his 100 million dollar Nike sponsorship cheque in Abu Dhabi today so I would say this is pretty far from his mind!

$50,000 a day it works out, some dough all the same. He'd be ripping at the comments made here alright :o

Stephen Watson was asked the question this morning on Radio Ulster why Nike wanted Rory, the fool said because they were looking someone cool!! Rory at the minute is the best in the world at Golf, number one. But if you were thinking of someone cool, then Rory wouldn't be the first thing that would spring to mind, Watson is such a brown nose that he almost makes me sick listening to his commentry
He has set himself up as Rory's official journalist. The way he was gushing on radio Ulster I thought he was going to announce their civil partnership.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Declan on January 16, 2013, 12:18:38 PM
Nice company to be associated with alright ;)
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Indonesian factory workers claimed a small victory on Tuesday after news spread that suppliers for international sportswear behemouth Nike paid local military personnel to intimidate them into agreeing to below minimum wage pay.


Workers at the Nike shoe factory in the west Java city of Sukabumi will now be paid a higher minimum wage after reporting that they were bullied into signing a petition saying that they supported the factory's claim to be exempt from the recent wage increase.

After news of the harrassment leaked, the Jakarta Globe is reporting that the factory has revoked their application for exemption.

Three labor rights groups— US-based Educating for Justice (EFJ), the Alliance for Labor Unions in Indonesia (MPBI) and the Trade Union Rights Center—revealed on Monday the findings of a recent investigation into several Nike factories that were seeking wage exemptions.

ABC Australia reports:

In mobile phone footage of the factory, shown to ABC, a man standing over workers can be heard telling them, "you all have to sign it".

The woman who took the footage does not want to be named, but says she and other workers tried to reject the pay restriction.

"We got summoned by military personnel that the company hired to interrogate us and they intimidated us," she said.

"The first thing that scared me was his high tone of voice and he banged the table.

"And also he said that inside the factory there were a lot of military intelligence officers. That scared me."
Additionally, EFJ director Jim Keady reports that trade union officials at the factory were deceived into signing the agreement when a meeting's sign-in sheet was “fraudulently attached to a document that stated the signatories agree to the factory management’s requests to be exempt from the new minimum wage.”

"Nike unfortunately exercises imperialist values—values that run counter to the commitments to democracy and human rights," Keady said.

Indonesian workers won a 44 percent minimum wage raise to 2.2 million rupiah ($228) a month after millions of workers striked this fall over low pay and cost of living increases; the pay increase in Jakarta was supposed to be made effective January 1.

According to the Surya Tjandra, director of Indonesia's Trade Union Rights Center, at least six Nike-contracted factories had applied for an exemption to the recent pay increase, allowing employees to be paid $3.70 a day instead of $4.

"You have to provide financial conditions of the company in the last two years which show some not profit, and then you have to accept some consent from the workers directly, which is not that easy because for the workers, the new wages is [sic] actually better and fairer," he said.

Of Tuesday's news that the Sukabumi factory was retracting their bid for exemption, Keady said:

I’m very happy for the workers in the factory. They are getting the justice they deserve.

Now we have to move forward case by case, factory by factory and make sure that in all 40 [Indonesian] Nike factories, the 171,000 workers get what they deserve.
So far, the investigative team has only looked into shoe manufacturing plants, but they suspect the majority of Nike apparel factories will also be trying to avoid paying the new minimum wage.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: muppet on January 16, 2013, 03:31:26 PM
Of those rare Irish people who rose to dizzy heights, with multiple success on the world stage, only Katie Taylor seems to have unanimous admiration in her own land. Of course this being Ireland that could change and I notice her frequent mention of her religion has annoyed some. At the other end of the spectrum Michelle Smith and Roy Keane's names still provoke arguments in most company.

Rory McIlroy is no Roy Keane and no one remotely suggests he is a Michelle Smith type character, yet he divides opinion in a similar way. It is ironic for someone who is viewed around the world as having conquered the golfing world, that he has to decide which side of a very localised golfing fence to stand on. Keane is a character who would completely ignore public opinion, much to the annoyance of many, while it appears Smith completely mislead the public, yet McIlroy has been as open and honest as possible. But I suspect he will be treated in much the same way they were, i.e. 'with him or agin him'.

Keane couldn't care less what the public thought and Smith is a recluse now, but McIlroy wont be able to follow either of those paths. Sponsors will make sure of that and anyway he doesn't seem to be that sort of person.

For the record I am a big fan. He is a one off that seems to be produced every now and then in that corner of this island, e.g. Best & Higgins.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Rossfan on January 16, 2013, 03:35:36 PM
I expect he hopes he doesn't end up like them two boyos.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hound on January 17, 2013, 07:53:59 AM
Keane couldn't care less what the public thought and Smith is a recluse now, but McIlroy wont be able to follow either of those paths. Sponsors will make sure of that and anyway he doesn't seem to be that sort of person.


Just because she gets no media attention doesnt mean she's a recluse! Michelle continues to work as a barrister.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hardy on January 17, 2013, 09:19:50 AM
Her poor parents! Infamy heaped on disgrace.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: sans pessimism on January 17, 2013, 10:42:01 AM
Word on the fairways is that Rory is struggling with the new driver - up to 35 yards shorter than before >:( >:(

No problems with irons apparently  but the big dog is worrying

Heard different myself, apparently his ball speed has increased to over 180mph (with the titleist 913, he was around the 175mph mark).

People seem to forget that he changed his driver last year to the 913D3 prototype, certainly had no issues then and there is certainly no reason to think he'll struggle with Nike. It will be interesting to see how he gets on with the new ball though.
A lot shorter than Tiger today apparantly
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Megaman on January 17, 2013, 11:02:12 AM
Word on the fairways is that Rory is struggling with the new driver - up to 35 yards shorter than before >:( >:(

No problems with irons apparently  but the big dog is worrying

Heard different myself, apparently his ball speed has increased to over 180mph (with the titleist 913, he was around the 175mph mark).

People seem to forget that he changed his driver last year to the 913D3 prototype, certainly had no issues then and there is certainly no reason to think he'll struggle with Nike. It will be interesting to see how he gets on with the new ball though.
A lot shorter than Tiger today apparantly

says their driving distance was both 289 and both hit 5 / 14 fairways.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: muppet on January 17, 2013, 12:29:29 PM
Keane couldn't care less what the public thought and Smith is a recluse now, but McIlroy wont be able to follow either of those paths. Sponsors will make sure of that and anyway he doesn't seem to be that sort of person.


Just because she gets no media attention doesnt mean she's a recluse! Michelle continues to work as a barrister.

Bad choice of words, I meant she isn't in the public eye like Keane, McIlroy etc.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on January 18, 2013, 10:58:30 AM
Rory is 3 over the cut line with 8 holes to play.

Orior's Advice: Cut 2 inches off the length of all your new clubs Rory. In that way you can fit them in the rubbish bin.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hardy on January 18, 2013, 11:37:38 AM
Radio 1 sports news says Rory has ditched his Nike putter today.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: offtheground on January 18, 2013, 02:28:31 PM
Only two rounds in anger with new equipment, so too early to make any big statements about the effect of his nike equipment. Remember his 'dip' in performance before the PGA last year??

Interesting to compare his stats for the past few years to the stats for this event.

Average Driving distance ;
Year   -   Yards   
2007 - 285.63
2008 - 295.29
2009 - 301.38
2010 - 301.33
2011 - 300.88
2012 - 301.89
Abu Dhabi 2013 - 289yrds

Driving accuracy
 
Year   - %
2007 - 63.37
2008 - 56.78
2009 - 62.96
2010 - 60.72
2011 - 63.12
2012 - 60.71
Abu Dhabi 2013 - 35.7%

As i said - its too early for any big statements, but he has work to do to get back to his usual performance off the Tee box, and thats not even mentioning his putting.

http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/players/playerid=34024/statistics/index.html (http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/players/playerid=34024/statistics/index.html) - 2007 - 2012 stats

http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2013/tournamentid=2013005/news/newsid=183101.html (http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2013/tournamentid=2013005/news/newsid=183101.html) - Abu Dhabi 2013 stats
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: GAA_Talk on January 18, 2013, 02:34:17 PM
Both Woods and Rory miss cut.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/golf/21084605
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: thebigfella on January 18, 2013, 03:07:47 PM
Only two rounds in anger with new equipment, so too early to make any big statements about the effect of his nike equipment. Remember his 'dip' in performance before the PGA last year??

Interesting to compare his stats for the past few years to the stats for this event.

Average Driving distance ;
Year   -   Yards   
2007 - 285.63
2008 - 295.29
2009 - 301.38
2010 - 301.33
2011 - 300.88
2012 - 301.89
Abu Dhabi 2013 - 289yrds


Driving accuracy
 
Year   - %
2007 - 63.37
2008 - 56.78
2009 - 62.96
2010 - 60.72
2011 - 63.12
2012 - 60.71
Abu Dhabi 2013 - 35.7%

As i said - its too early for any big statements, but he has work to do to get back to his usual performance off the Tee box, and thats not even mentioning his putting.

http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/players/playerid=34024/statistics/index.html (http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/players/playerid=34024/statistics/index.html) - 2007 - 2012 stats

http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2013/tournamentid=2013005/news/newsid=183101.html (http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2013/tournamentid=2013005/news/newsid=183101.html) - Abu Dhabi 2013 stats

Usually the driving distance are measured on a couple of holes to calculate the average. All it takes is for one bad drive on these holes and the average driving distance doesn't look so good. For today's round his average driving distance was 302.5 yards, not too shabby  ;)

He's been under the media spotlight for the last few weeks due to the equipment change. Certainly there will be a bit of pressure from that and to deliver for Nike. I agree with the guys on Sky Sports, his timing just looks a bit off and this maybe a consequence of the added pressure. The bad shots he hit yesterday are just woeful swings; even with his old titleist clubs they still would have been woeful.

Judging by the number of putts he left short yesterday and having to get used to the new ball; I do think swapping the putter was a mistake. Glad to see he has no contractual obligation to use the Nike putter, even though the new method putters are pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on January 18, 2013, 04:15:41 PM
What the heck is a method putter?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AQMP on January 18, 2013, 04:20:58 PM
What the heck is a method putter?

One belonging to Robert De Niro ??
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: dec on January 18, 2013, 04:32:43 PM
What the heck is a method putter?

http://www.nike.com/nikeos/p/nikegolf/en_US/experiences/method-putters
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: midLouth on January 20, 2013, 10:32:16 PM
Gift grub have a pretty good skit of McGinley and Rory taking piss of his contract!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Bingo on March 01, 2013, 04:09:32 PM
Rory not having a good day, seven over on his ninth (18th on course), puts ball in water and walks off course citing a toothache as the cause of his problem and woes.

Are the Nike clubs that hard to use?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on March 01, 2013, 04:16:18 PM
The rumor mill is that Tiger convinced him to switch so that he would struggle with the "inferior equipment" and not be such a threat.

Or maybe Tiger really is swinging a "Big Dog" and Caroline isn't happy with Rory's performance.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AQMP on March 01, 2013, 04:30:09 PM
Stephen Watson receiving counselling.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Christmas Lights on March 01, 2013, 04:41:33 PM
Probably misses his old glasses.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Saffrongael on March 01, 2013, 06:52:23 PM
toothache ? What a warrior.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: never kickt a ball on March 01, 2013, 06:58:55 PM
Teething problems according to Mark Sidebottom
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Onion Bag on March 02, 2013, 08:02:48 AM
Rory not having a good day, seven over on his ninth (18th on course), puts ball in water and walks off course citing a toothache as the cause of his problem and woes.

Are the Nike clubs that hard to use?

A bad work man always blames his tools
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on March 03, 2013, 06:13:39 PM
Stephen Watson receiving counselling.
For his premature ejaculation at the site of Rory's Ulster Flag?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AZOffaly on March 04, 2013, 10:06:26 AM
I haven't seen much of CW around recently. I wonder if he's having some woman trouble. Not unusual for a young lad to be affected by something like that.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Mont on March 04, 2013, 10:08:09 AM
CW isnt a looker so its time ruairi got shot of her
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on March 04, 2013, 01:08:10 PM
Apparently Caroline pulled out of a tournament on Friday too. The rumour mill is at full steam - maybe Caroline is preggers.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: deiseach on March 04, 2013, 01:12:41 PM
Apparently Caroline pulled out of a tournament on Friday too. The rumour mill is at full steam - maybe Caroline is preggers.

Yeah, I believe that can have an awful impact on the father's teeth.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on March 04, 2013, 01:21:47 PM
Apparently Caroline pulled out of a tournament on Friday too. The rumour mill is at full steam - maybe Caroline is preggers.

Yeah, I believe that can have an awful impact on the father's teeth.

Ok since you brought it up, there is a rumour that the father has was not in Florida on Friday.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: deiseach on March 04, 2013, 01:26:06 PM
Ok since you brought it up, there is a rumour that the father has was not in Florida on Friday.

I'm sorry I brought it up.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: johnneycool on March 04, 2013, 01:59:23 PM
Apparently Caroline pulled out of a tournament on Friday too. The rumour mill is at full steam - maybe Caroline is preggers.

Yeah, I believe that can have an awful impact on the father's teeth.

Ok since you brought it up, there is a rumour that the father has was not in Florida on Friday.

I'm surprised that you'd enter into the world of idle rumour and speculation after this comment;

'
But until we hear more detail of the accusation then it is only speculation.'

Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on March 04, 2013, 02:44:12 PM
Apparently Caroline pulled out of a tournament on Friday too. The rumour mill is at full steam - maybe Caroline is preggers.

Yeah, I believe that can have an awful impact on the father's teeth.

Ok since you brought it up, there is a rumour that the father has was not in Florida on Friday.

I'm surprised that you'd enter into the world of idle rumour and speculation after this comment;

'
But until we hear more detail of the accusation then it is only speculation.'

Actually I thought that piece was speculation was so ridiculous that people would recognise it as such.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: johnneycool on March 04, 2013, 03:16:00 PM
If someone had made some wild speculation that Cardinal O'Brien had shed his load all over a curates vestments whilst engaging in night prayers, would that be ridiculous enough?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stew on March 05, 2013, 12:36:14 AM
Teething problems according to Mark Sidebottom

Crock of shit!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: NetNitrate on March 05, 2013, 01:51:35 AM
Well, at least  we now know who Rory will represent at the Olympics. The Brits. They all got bad teeth.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on March 05, 2013, 07:46:56 AM
The press conference at Doral later today should be interesting.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: offtheground on March 05, 2013, 12:29:12 PM
http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/rory-mcilroy-regrets-honda-classic-withdrawl-exclusive-interview


Fair enough response from him, admits he was seeing red, compounded by tooth pain and decided feck this, says he regretted it after driving home.
I'm sure the conspirosy theorists will still want more, but i'm thinking this is a non-story, move on. Once he corrects his swing, he'll be back challenging at the top.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hound on March 05, 2013, 01:18:39 PM
Full marks to Rory for apparent honesty. But there'll have to be a punishment dished out for walking off the course for no good reason. I think John Daly got a suspension at some stage for similar, but presumably that is because he was a serial offender so a fine should be sufficient in this case.

Didn't realise he was going through swing changes.

One of the biggest concerns I'd have for Rory would be his caddy. Perhaps he needs someone stronger. Someone who would not have let him walk off the course so easily.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on March 05, 2013, 02:51:38 PM
Half marks to Rory for the honesty, but in all honesty he had little choice but to release that statement. There's two things you don't do in golf. Cheat, or quit. Atrociously bad judgement, his entire approach this year has been poor. Not enough competitive rounds coming into the season either. I actually wonder if he made his first mistake by leaving chubby chandłer.

Ill be very surprised (although delighted) to see him do anything at Augusta in a months time.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: deiseach on March 05, 2013, 03:00:26 PM
Criticism from Jack Nicklaus (http://www.independent.ie/sport/golf/legend-jack-nicklaus-joins-chorus-of-disapproval-over-rory-mcilroys-withdrawal-29107024.html) . . . I can think of few people who have greater stature in their sport than the Golden Bear. That would have stung and I think the apology reflects it.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Declan on March 05, 2013, 04:12:18 PM
I actually think these lapses make McIlroy an even more fascinating sportsperson. More human so to speak than the automaton that was Tiger
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on March 05, 2013, 04:15:39 PM
It is the Nike curse. First Tiger, then Armstrong, now Rory.

I remember Ronan Rafferty walking off at the Masters. He said he was going for a pee, and never came back. Shit happens.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on March 05, 2013, 04:20:13 PM
It is the Nike curse. First Tiger, then Armstrong, now Rory.


And Oscar.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on March 05, 2013, 06:09:07 PM
I actually think these lapses make McIlroy an even more fascinating sportsperson. More human so to speak than the automaton that was Tiger

I suppose there's an argument there alright Declan, but it should be noted that if he hadn't already won 2 majors, and was world number 1, but rather he was a 23 year old still busting his hump to make it - he certainly wouldn't have walked off. I think it shows a lack of class and consideration to his partners, his sponsors, the tournament and the fans that by all accounts wasn't what he was brought up with.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on March 05, 2013, 06:13:34 PM
Well he managed to flog the oul house anyway.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2013/0305/breaking41.html
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on March 05, 2013, 08:42:38 PM
That Santander advert with Mcilroy is pretty poor.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stew on March 05, 2013, 10:00:03 PM
That Santander advert with Mcilroy is pretty poor.

Agree with that!

I think he was lying through his ( Ahem) teeth!

If he was feeling that bad he would have been popping disprin a handful at a time, oh and they have this gel that you rub on your tooth that kills the pain immediately for a while!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Sandy Hill on March 05, 2013, 11:42:05 PM
CW isnt a looker so its time ruairi got shot of her
............ and McIlroy is??
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on March 05, 2013, 11:45:09 PM
CW isnt a looker so its time ruairi got shot of her
............ and McIlroy is??

Looks ok to me..
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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on March 06, 2013, 11:52:40 AM
Spoilt ill mannered multi millionaire brat walks of in a huff, SHOCK!!!!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on March 06, 2013, 11:57:09 AM
Spoilt ill mannered multi millionaire brat walks of in a huff, SHOCK!!!!

What's this got to do with Alex Ferguson?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on March 06, 2013, 12:48:26 PM
Spoilt ill mannered multi millionaire brat walks of in a huff, SHOCK!!!!

What's this got to do with Alex Ferguson?
Lol
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on March 07, 2013, 11:42:59 AM
Spoilt ill mannered multi millionaire brat walks of in a huff, SHOCK!!!!

What's this got to do with Alex Ferguson?
Nice one!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Mont on March 07, 2013, 12:32:20 PM
she would look ok to any below average man but ruairi isnt a below averag man. he is a milionaire with the golfing world at his feet.
cud do a lot better than her. i can do better than her and im no a looker
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Minder on March 07, 2013, 12:35:20 PM
My missus reckons McIlroy is as ugly as sin
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on March 07, 2013, 06:02:45 PM
she would look ok to any below average man but ruairi isnt a below averag man. he is a milionaire with the golfing world at his feet.
cud do a lot better than her. i can do better than her and im no a looker

Ok Rico - maybe she's just got some perfectly manicured Augusta fairways goin on.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stew on March 07, 2013, 07:58:54 PM
CW isnt a looker so its time ruairi got shot of her
............ and McIlroy is??

Looks ok to me..
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She is tip top, for those of you who think she is average enough must be used to dating supermodels, in that picture two things become immediately apparent, 1) She is a fine looking girl and 2) She most assuredly is not from Laois!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on March 07, 2013, 08:28:18 PM
She seems perfectly limber anyway

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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on March 07, 2013, 10:55:55 PM
That is some racket to be in.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on March 07, 2013, 11:27:04 PM
Nice. The boss (an avid golfer) was just in my office talking about Rory and the withdrawl from the honda classic etc... and I said "yeah, just reading about it on a sports forum from home".

Give us a look says he.

Cheers fellas! I reckon my internet will be cut off in about 15 minutes.  :D
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Declan on March 08, 2013, 08:16:48 AM
Quote
Give us a look says he.

Cheers fellas! I reckon my internet will be cut off in about 15 minutes

Brilliant
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: johnneycool on March 08, 2013, 11:34:57 AM
Well if it is affecting his performance on the golf course it deserves to be discussed as much as his swing!!

Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on March 08, 2013, 12:57:05 PM
Undoubtedly, Rory will miss the cut today.

My advice to him is go get a lesson. The Hilton Templepatrick do half hour lessons for £23. It worked for me!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: glens abu on March 08, 2013, 01:01:57 PM
Undoubtedly, Rory will miss the cut today.

My advice to him is go get a lesson. The Hilton Templepatrick do half hour lessons for £23. It worked for me!

There is no cut today.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on March 08, 2013, 02:54:23 PM
Undoubtedly, Rory will miss the cut today.

My advice to him is go get a lesson. The Hilton Templepatrick do half hour lessons for £23. It worked for me!

There is no cut today.

Lucky!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: muppet on March 08, 2013, 08:08:48 PM
Half marks to Rory for the honesty, but in all honesty he had little choice but to release that statement. There's two things you don't do in golf. Cheat, or quit. Atrociously bad judgement, his entire approach this year has been poor. Not enough competitive rounds coming into the season either. I actually wonder if he made his first mistake by leaving chubby chandłer.

Ill be very surprised (although delighted) to see him do anything at Augusta in a months time.

IMHO his first mistake was joining Chubby Chandler.

Years from now I will be first to buy that book.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: gerrykeegan on March 08, 2013, 09:17:57 PM
agree
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: spuds on June 29, 2013, 12:09:25 PM
Rory vs Robot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8SsB2eXtlg
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: muppet on June 29, 2013, 12:13:56 PM
Rory vs Robot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8SsB2eXtlg

Very good.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: T Fearon on July 01, 2013, 07:51:57 PM
Rory is in danger of going the same way as his Uncle Mickey,who could have been a top class soccer or GAA player,but failed to fulfil his potential
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 02, 2013, 06:46:14 AM
Rory is in danger of going the same way as his Uncle Mickey,who could have been a top class soccer or GAA player,but failed to fulfil his potential

Failed?? Yeah looking back at his career (so far) hes done all right. Having a dip in form that's all
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Count 10 on July 25, 2013, 07:41:49 PM
Very good article

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/desmond-kane/mcilroy-not-first-golfer-capsize-rocks-birdie-112750653.html
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on August 05, 2013, 10:39:36 PM
Heard a disappointing rumor today about an injunction, and some trouble on the home front for the McIlroys. Would like to see the kid regain some form.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2013, 10:42:37 PM
Heard a disappointing rumor today about an injunction, and some trouble on the home front for the McIlroys. Would like to see the kid regain some form.

oh? Pm me
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Cold tea on August 06, 2013, 09:32:20 AM
Heard a disappointing rumor today about an injunction, and some trouble on the home front for the McIlroys. Would like to see the kid regain some form.

God love him.  ::)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on August 06, 2013, 11:08:13 AM
Heard a disappointing rumor today about an injunction, and some trouble on the home front for the McIlroys. Would like to see the kid regain some form.

Well, at least you didnt give anything away, lol.

I do hope that Rory makes the cut this week. Last week saw a small improvement on his form, in that he avoided the disasterous 76 or 77+
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Declan on September 27, 2013, 12:20:15 PM
McILROY ANNOUNCES NEW MANAGEMENT STRUCTURE
Rory McIlroy today [27th September ’13] confirmed he has terminated his contract with Horizon
Sports Management and that the details of the termination are in the hands of a legal team led by
A&L Goodbody in Dublin, Ireland.
The golfer’s business interests will from now on be managed by Rory McIlroy Incorporated.
CEO of RMI will be Donal Casey, an actuary by profession with many years of CEO experience.
The Rory Foundation for charity will be run by Barry Funston, a business leader and longtime
friend of the McIlroy family. Both men will serve on the RMI Board, together with Gerry
McIlroy.
Media relations for the golfer and his management company will be handled by a team from The
Communications Clinic, led by Terry Prone.
Further information from The Communications Clinic:
00353868139133 Terry Prone
00353874129371 Catherine E. Burke
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tubberman on September 27, 2013, 01:01:19 PM
Jaysus, Terry Prone and her ubiquitous son Anton Savage have yet another reason to be on the airwaves
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Ulick on September 27, 2013, 01:33:33 PM
I thought this had already happened months ago. Rory's da is going to be the feckin ruination of him. Chubby Chandler will have a chuckle anyhow.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Cold tea on September 27, 2013, 02:56:50 PM
Poor Rory.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 27, 2013, 06:20:31 PM
I thought this had already happened months ago. Rory's da is going to be the feckin ruination of him. Chubby Chandler will have a chuckle anyhow.
It was reported in the papers a while back that he would be going it alone with various family friends etc making up his new backroom team. Assume sorting out legals since.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on September 27, 2013, 08:28:41 PM
A while ago The experts on Sky Sports said that this would be a bad move by Rory. They will be proved right.

By the way, I happened to watch Caroline getting beat at a tournament in Japan. She has lost a lot of weight, but her tennis is still nowhere near what it used to be.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Cold tea on September 27, 2013, 11:06:28 PM
I thought this had already happened months ago. Rory's da is going to be the feckin ruination of him. Chubby Chandler will have a chuckle anyhow.
It was reported in the papers a while back that he would be going it alone with various family friends etc making up his new backroom team. Assume sorting out legals since.

Maybe he can enter the Olympics as team Rory!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: glens abu on September 27, 2013, 11:25:04 PM
I thought this had already happened months ago. Rory's da is going to be the feckin ruination of him. Chubby Chandler will have a chuckle anyhow.
It was reported in the papers a while back that he would be going it alone with various family friends etc making up his new backroom team. Assume sorting out legals since.

Maybe he can enter the Olympics as team Rory!

What will teAm Ireland do without him
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on September 28, 2013, 01:46:00 PM
The way hes playing he'd be lucky if the Faroe's picked him for the Olympics.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 14, 2013, 12:56:53 PM
I see McIlroy is taking Horizon to court over fees etc. Would McIlroy not have signed a commercial contract with these fees embedded in it so why start moaning now (unless Horizon were taking more out at source than contractually obliged). Anyone anymore background?

Someone is really pulling his strings by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on October 14, 2013, 02:07:10 PM
Finished with the woman too!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2013, 02:27:42 PM
Finished with the woman too!

Best move yet, I could have been a decent sports star only for women, downfall of many a sports star that and the drugs, drink partying other loose women and more drink ffs!!

He'll get over it with no doubt another women
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Minder on October 14, 2013, 04:38:42 PM
I see McIlroy is taking Horizon to court over fees etc. Would McIlroy not have signed a commercial contract with these fees embedded in it so why start moaning now (unless Horizon were taking more out at source than contractually obliged). Anyone anymore background?

Someone is really pulling his strings by the looks of it.

His Da I would say
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on October 14, 2013, 06:58:43 PM
Finished with the woman too!

Best move yet, I could have been a decent sports star only for women, downfall of many a sports star that and the drugs, drink partying other loose women and more drink ffs!!

He'll get over it with no doubt another women
Just the one? If in his situation it wouldn't even be limited to 1 a day  :)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on October 14, 2013, 07:58:17 PM
It seems that Caroline posted a rather unflattering picture of Rory on Twitter. But hang on... what is he worrying about?

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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: sensethetone on October 15, 2013, 08:34:28 AM
listening to news this morning-going on about rory and the the verve comes into me head only it was.. now the clubs don't wurk they just make you wurse..
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: anglocelt39 on October 15, 2013, 11:15:47 AM
Holed up in the Westbury talking to his lawyers for a week before heading out with Bill and Bono for dinner, lot of hungry young golfers who will be snapping at his heels in a year or two don't have those distractions. Needs to get back on the course big time if he wants to retain his order of merit position, but sure he's made for life financially I suppose
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: cornerback on December 01, 2013, 08:23:50 AM
He's back!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stephenite on December 01, 2013, 08:31:17 AM
He hung in well today, Whilst Scott has several opportunities to put it out of reach, he didn't and Rory stuck with him well to snatch it on the 18th.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: lfdown2 on December 01, 2013, 08:52:45 AM
Was great viewing. Unbelievable how many times whether teeing off or playing into the pin the ended up within yards of each other.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on December 01, 2013, 01:21:09 PM
Great job by Rory and fully deserved. I've heard rumours about some of the issues he had to deal with this year, so getting this win should hopefully send him back towards to top.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on December 01, 2013, 01:24:14 PM
Great job by Rory and fully deserved. I've heard rumours about some of the issues he had to deal with this year, so getting this win should hopefully send him back towards to top.

Do tell.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: sans pessimism on December 01, 2013, 02:18:33 PM
Finished with the woman too!
naa-still together.He said that the first one he would call after his victory was Caroline(mabye he was goin to tell her to take a hike!)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on December 31, 2013, 11:14:33 PM
The saga continues!! Congratulations on the engagement Rory!!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on December 31, 2013, 11:43:17 PM
The saga continues!! Congratulations on the engagement Rory!!

Will never last.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 31, 2013, 11:47:23 PM
The saga continues!! Congratulations on the engagement Rory!!

Will never last.
It will until she meets you then it's curtains.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on December 31, 2013, 11:52:03 PM
The saga continues!! Congratulations on the engagement Rory!!

Will never last.
It will until she meets you then it's curtains.
She's to young for me.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: ziggysego on January 01, 2014, 02:55:50 AM
The saga continues!! Congratulations on the engagement Rory!!

Will never last.
It will until she meets you then it's curtains.
She's to young for me.

Never heard you say that before.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: magpie seanie on January 01, 2014, 10:49:33 AM
Personally think it's waaaayy too young for anyone to be contemplating marriage but good luck to the pair of them.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: EC Unique on January 01, 2014, 11:54:52 AM
The saga continues!! Congratulations on the engagement Rory!!

Will never last.
It will until she meets you then it's curtains.
She's to young, good looking and successful for me.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on January 01, 2014, 12:08:29 PM
I wouldn't marry a woman whose career is based on a racket.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: snoopdog on January 01, 2014, 03:10:21 PM
I wouldn't marry a woman whose career is based on a racket.
Maybe rory can get married and represent wherever the misses come from. that would be one in the face for all those waiting to slate him on his country choice for the next olympics
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 02, 2014, 09:58:51 AM
I wouldn't marry a woman whose career is based on a racket.
Maybe rory can get married and represent wherever the misses come from. that would be one in the face for all those waiting to slate him on his country choice for the next olympics

Or he could grow a set and just make a decision without worrying about what anyone else might be thinking.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: J OGorman on January 02, 2014, 10:11:55 AM
I wouldn't marry a woman whose career is based on a racket.
Maybe rory can get married and represent wherever the misses come from. that would be one in the face for all those waiting to slate him on his country choice for the next olympics

Or he could grow a set and just make a decision without worrying about what anyone else might be thinking.

who would win in this 'worry-off'? McIlroy worrying about what you might be thinking or yourself for worrying what side he is thinking of choosing? Do people really give a fiddlers either way? Seriously?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: trueblue1234 on January 02, 2014, 10:33:46 AM
I'm worrying? Funny didn't realise I was. Where did you pick that up from?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: deiseach on January 02, 2014, 10:58:46 AM
Commiserations to Caroline on her engagement to a supporter of Man Utd.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on January 02, 2014, 11:51:03 AM
I wouldn't marry a woman whose career is based on a racket.
Maybe rory can get married and represent wherever the misses come from. that would be one in the face for all those waiting to slate him on his country choice for the next olympics

Or he could grow a set and just make a decision without worrying about what anyone else might be thinking.

who would win in this 'worry-off'? McIlroy worrying about what you might be thinking or yourself for worrying what side he is thinking of choosing? Do people really give a fiddlers either way? Seriously?
I'd say Rory is worrying that if he doesn't regain some form then it won't matter which side he chooses as neither will want him.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: glens abu on January 30, 2014, 11:02:52 AM
Bit of form returning -9  and 3 shot lead today in the desert.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: nrico2006 on January 30, 2014, 11:19:44 AM
Good to see him playing so well in the two tournaments he has been in so far. 
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: DrinkingHarp on March 02, 2014, 10:35:12 PM
Rory giving the Honda Classic away right now, plus 5 today and he had it all wrapped up to start the day
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: king of leon on March 02, 2014, 10:35:54 PM
Looks grim for him now....
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on March 02, 2014, 10:40:06 PM
Needs a birdie on 18 to have a chance.  Yanking everything to the left after a good start to the final round.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: DrinkingHarp on March 02, 2014, 10:47:27 PM
What a second shot!!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on March 02, 2014, 10:48:54 PM
Fantastic second shot!  Could win it with an eagle!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: king of leon on March 02, 2014, 10:52:47 PM
Pulled out one of the great shots!!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Saffrongael on March 02, 2014, 10:56:13 PM
Can't wait to see him draped in the tri colour if he wins
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: DrinkingHarp on March 02, 2014, 10:57:55 PM
Can't wait to see him draped in the tri colour if he wins

He will have to win the playoff first, and he will be draped in a Caroline hug.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 02, 2014, 11:07:00 PM
Best shot I've ever seen in golf, whether he wins this or not that was a serious ballsy shot, consider the duffers he hit earlier
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on March 02, 2014, 11:11:57 PM
Best shot I've ever seen in golf, whether he wins this or not that was a serious ballsy shot, consider the duffers he hit earlier
It was good but I've seen better.

No toothaches for Rory this year?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Saffrongael on March 02, 2014, 11:26:45 PM
He fairly fucked up that tournament
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: bootboy on March 02, 2014, 11:35:16 PM
Hitting into the water from fairway bunker on 16 for a 6 was the killer.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Sidney on March 03, 2014, 12:03:50 AM
Another one to shove down an already congested windpipe for the choker supreme.  ;D

That shot into the water on 16 was pure poetry.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: DrinkingHarp on March 03, 2014, 12:04:16 AM
I hope not but he could be the next Sergio Garcia, great talent but chokes.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2014, 08:48:51 AM
Another one to shove down an already congested windpipe for the choker supreme.  ;D

That shot into the water on 16 was pure poetry.
Another one to shove down an already congested windpipe for the choker supreme.  ;D

That shot into the water on 16 was pure poetry.

Choker? How many majors has he won? and other PGA tournaments hmmmmm, old Rory brings out the haters, typical stuff, knock yer own
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: nrico2006 on March 03, 2014, 08:56:02 AM
Garcia has never won a major, hence why he is classed as someone who never met their potential.  McIlroy has 2 and I am sure he will get more.  He has been playing some stuff since the end of last year, unbelievable the number of people here that are obsessed with him and flags etc and who like to run him down. 
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2014, 08:58:50 AM
Some tripe on here talked by 'so called' experts!! As MR2 says, us Paddys love to hammer our own!!

When you compare where Rory was last year to how he has started this year the future looks bright!!!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Newbridge Exile on March 03, 2014, 11:45:42 AM
Some tripe on here talked by 'so called' experts!! As MR2 says, us Paddys love to hammer our own!!

When you compare where Rory was last year to how he has started this year the future looks bright!!!
Dont think Rory would classify hImself to be a "Paddy " TBH
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2014, 11:55:19 AM
Some tripe on here talked by 'so called' experts!! As MR2 says, us Paddys love to hammer our own!!

When you compare where Rory was last year to how he has started this year the future looks bright!!!
Dont think Rory would classify hImself to be a "Paddy " TBH

Well there you go, from that response I assume you are referring to who Rory chooses to represent.

I dont give a monkeys if he wants to represent GB. He's from here and I'll support him regardless.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Mikhailov on March 03, 2014, 12:37:59 PM
Some tripe on here talked by 'so called' experts!! As MR2 says, us Paddys love to hammer our own!!

When you compare where Rory was last year to how he has started this year the future looks bright!!!
Dont think Rory would classify hImself to be a "Paddy " TBH

Well there you go, from that response I assume you are referring to who Rory chooses to represent.

I dont give a monkeys if he wants to represent GB. He's from here and I'll support him regardless.

+1 - he possibly will win this weekend in Miami at Cadillac........

He cant be classed as a choker with 2 majors - he did choke at Augusta in 2011 but has learned from that by winning twice since. No other golfer has won 2 majors since Augusta 2011.......
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hardy on March 03, 2014, 12:39:37 PM
Yeah - the shot of a choker OK. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3QwwUwAIBTw)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: give her dixie on March 03, 2014, 12:48:05 PM
I don't know why people slate Rory from these parts, as I for one am very proud of him and what he has achieved to date in a short time. Long may he continue to shine, and I will support him through thick and thin.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2014, 12:48:21 PM
Some tripe on here talked by 'so called' experts!! As MR2 says, us Paddys love to hammer our own!!

When you compare where Rory was last year to how he has started this year the future looks bright!!!
Dont think Rory would classify hImself to be a "Paddy " TBH

So you'll only support 'Paddy's' ? Hmmmm .....
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 03, 2014, 12:51:19 PM
I don't know why people slate Rory from these parts, as I for one am very proud of him and what he has achieved to date in a short time. Long may he continue to shine, and I will support him through thick and thin.

It is due to the age old afflictions of begrudgery and 'job for you ye **** ye'-ery.  McIlroy is a top class sportsman, one of the best in the world at his sport,  and gobdaas want to sneer at him.  Sums up a lot about us really.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on March 03, 2014, 12:58:04 PM
Best shot I've ever seen in golf, whether he wins this or not that was a serious ballsy shot, consider the duffers he hit earlier
It was good but I've seen better.

No toothaches for Rory this year?

Better? Tell us who, where and when!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 03, 2014, 01:04:59 PM
Best shot I've ever seen in golf, whether he wins this or not that was a serious ballsy shot, consider the duffers he hit earlier
It was good but I've seen better.

No toothaches for Rory this year?

Better? Tell us who, where and when!

Tigers chip, 16th hole, Masters 2005??
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: declan85 on March 03, 2014, 01:07:40 PM
Best shot I've ever seen in golf, whether he wins this or not that was a serious ballsy shot, consider the duffers he hit earlier
It was good but I've seen better.

No toothaches for Rory this year?

Better? Tell us who, where and when!

Tigers putt, 16th hole, Masters 2005??

Bubba Watson, US Masters 2012, 2nd Playoff hole. Won him the Green Jacket...
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Saffrongael on March 03, 2014, 01:09:37 PM
Had to be at a Major or Ryder Cup I am afraid if you want to go for "best ever"

A run of the mill regular tournament isn't the same.

Christy O'Connors 2 iron at the Belfry in the Ryder Cup
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: NetNitrate on March 03, 2014, 01:23:55 PM
Some tripe on here talked by 'so called' experts!! As MR2 says, us Paddys love to hammer our own!!

When you compare where Rory was last year to how he has started this year the future looks bright!!!
Dont think Rory would classify hImself to be a "Paddy " TBH

In fairness, he has not ruled out being a Paddy yet.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on March 03, 2014, 01:33:47 PM
Best shot I've ever seen in golf, whether he wins this or not that was a serious ballsy shot, consider the duffers he hit earlier
It was good but I've seen better.

No toothaches for Rory this year?

Better? Tell us who, where and when!

Tigers putt, 16th hole, Masters 2005??

Bubba Watson, US Masters 2012, 2nd Playoff hole. Won him the Green Jacket...
P Harrington into the 17th at the British Open 2008
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 03, 2014, 01:46:05 PM
Had to be at a Major or Ryder Cup I am afraid if you want to go for "best ever"

A run of the mill regular tournament isn't the same.

Christy O'Connors 2 iron at the Belfry in the Ryder Cup
Would agree. Not exactly the same sort of pressure when it is essentially an all or nothing shot in a tour event.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2014, 01:48:53 PM
I wouldn't have watched as much golf as some of the posters on here, so there probably are better shots, that's why I said best I've seen. I agree the best one are the ones that leads to winning

He'd had a shite two holes one a double bogey and a dropped another shot, needed to get on the green in two, hit a shot over water and bunkers to leave himself with a eagle chance to win it!! I thought it was impressive, if people have seen better then grand.

That's not the point it's the nobs who complain about bigots but strangely enough show tendencies of being a bigot themselves that annoy me
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: give her dixie on March 03, 2014, 02:00:19 PM
Best shot I've ever seen in golf, whether he wins this or not that was a serious ballsy shot, consider the duffers he hit earlier
It was good but I've seen better.

No toothaches for Rory this year?

Better? Tell us who, where and when!

Tigers putt, 16th hole, Masters 2005??

Bubba Watson, US Masters 2012, 2nd Playoff hole. Won him the Green Jacket...
P Harrington into the 17th at the British Open 2008

That was a monster shot all right. Right up there with the best.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2014, 02:12:55 PM
Best shot I've ever seen in golf, whether he wins this or not that was a serious ballsy shot, consider the duffers he hit earlier
It was good but I've seen better.

No toothaches for Rory this year?

Better? Tell us who, where and when!

Tigers putt, 16th hole, Masters 2005??

Bubba Watson, US Masters 2012, 2nd Playoff hole. Won him the Green Jacket...
P Harrington into the 17th at the British Open 2008

That was a monster shot all right. Right up there with the best.

Cracking shot alright, hit the edge of bunker which was a bit of luck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w86X4wjjhw
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2014, 02:18:42 PM
Best shot I've ever seen in golf, whether he wins this or not that was a serious ballsy shot, consider the duffers he hit earlier
It was good but I've seen better.

No toothaches for Rory this year?

Better? Tell us who, where and when!

Tigers chip, 16th hole, Masters 2005??

Great shot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRCjJi_uDp8
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Sidney on March 03, 2014, 02:50:27 PM
Another one to shove down an already congested windpipe for the choker supreme.  ;D

That shot into the water on 16 was pure poetry.
Another one to shove down an already congested windpipe for the choker supreme.  ;D

That shot into the water on 16 was pure poetry.

Choker? How many majors has he won? and other PGA tournaments hmmmmm, old Rory brings out the haters, typical stuff, knock yer own
Why should I have an obligation to support "our own" (which he isn't anyway)?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: J OGorman on March 03, 2014, 02:58:55 PM
Another one to shove down an already congested windpipe for the choker supreme.  ;D

That shot into the water on 16 was pure poetry.
Another one to shove down an already congested windpipe for the choker supreme.  ;D

That shot into the water on 16 was pure poetry.

Choker? How many majors has he won? and other PGA tournaments hmmmmm, old Rory brings out the haters, typical stuff, knock yer own
Why should I have an obligation to support "our own" (which he isn't anyway)?

have you ever represented Ireland in ought?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2014, 03:06:59 PM
Another one to shove down an already congested windpipe for the choker supreme.  ;D

That shot into the water on 16 was pure poetry.
Another one to shove down an already congested windpipe for the choker supreme.  ;D

That shot into the water on 16 was pure poetry.

Choker? How many majors has he won? and other PGA tournaments hmmmmm, old Rory brings out the haters, typical stuff, knock yer own
Why should I have an obligation to support "our own" (which he isn't anyway)?

You don't, but do you think he's a choker? explain?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Sidney on March 03, 2014, 03:13:21 PM


You don't, but do you think he's a choker? explain?
That's easy. He has a history of choking spectacularly from winning positions. Feel free to use the word "bottler" if you prefer.

Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Sidney on March 03, 2014, 03:14:36 PM


have you ever represented Ireland in ought?
Is "ought" some class of Ulster-Scots game?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2014, 03:19:18 PM


You don't, but do you think he's a choker? explain?
That's easy. He has a history of choking spectacularly from winning positions. Feel free to use the word "bottler" if you prefer.

He has a history of winning Majors to

Not bad for a choker, I'd happy so far for that, I'm sure
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: give her dixie on March 03, 2014, 03:36:35 PM


You don't, but do you think he's a choker? explain?
That's easy. He has a history of choking spectacularly from winning positions. Feel free to use the word "bottler" if you prefer.


What has Brendan Grace got to do with golf?


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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: cornerback on March 03, 2014, 03:42:42 PM


You don't, but do you think he's a choker? explain?
That's easy. He has a history of choking spectacularly from winning positions. Feel free to use the word "bottler" if you prefer.

He has a history of winning Majors to

Not bad for a choker, I'd happy so far for that, I'm sure

Just like Harrington & his twenty-something 2nd place finishes! Not bad for a choker either!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2014, 04:00:37 PM


You don't, but do you think he's a choker? explain?
That's easy. He has a history of choking spectacularly from winning positions. Feel free to use the word "bottler" if you prefer.

He has a history of winning Majors to

Not bad for a choker, I'd happy so far for that, I'm sure

Just like Harrington & his twenty-something 2nd place finishes! Not bad for a choker either!

All great stuff that we should all applaud anyone who'll win a major from this small island. Same as Darren, and Graham. But it's not about the alleged choking here it's about knocking someone over their views on certain things
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Mikhailov on March 03, 2014, 04:46:39 PM


You don't, but do you think he's a choker? explain?
That's easy. He has a history of choking spectacularly from winning positions. Feel free to use the word "bottler" if you prefer.

You obviously regard the Golden Bear , Jack Nicklaus as a choker also - he finished 2nd in 19 majors....

As I said earlier, in the last 12 majors, Rory is the only player to have won more than 1 title and admittedly that could have been 3 but it is 2, 1 more than everyone else.

Please give us a brief rundown of these winning positions that McIlroy keeps choking on - at least he was in a position. Even Tiger of late has failed miserably on Sundays - next you will be calling him a choker......
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Quarterback on March 03, 2014, 05:06:14 PM
Jeez us Irish are a fair set of be grudgers!!!  I'm sure the guy isn't too bothered what us lot think of him...Why do we always look for the bad in someone,....focus on the negatives.  I could spend hours watching the Mcilroy swing.  He is on the way back and his stats to date this year underline that. He learns from every situation and comes back stronger than ever.  The guy makes millions week in week out, lives in Florida and has a pretty fit bird...He seems to deal with that ok.  Look how us lot dealt with the extra cash during the Celtic Tiger -  We bust her!! :P
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Jonah on March 03, 2014, 05:09:25 PM
Yeah - the shot of a choker OK. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3QwwUwAIBTw)
Great shot alright but he did miss the eagle putt.
If he had eagled it could have been considered one of the shots of the season but the fact he missed means it won't really be remembered.
Drive for show putt for dough.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Sidney on March 03, 2014, 09:32:41 PM


All great stuff that we should all applaud anyone who'll win a major from this small island. Same as Darren, and Graham. But it's not about the alleged choking here it's about knocking someone over their views on certain things
I'd knock him because of his views on "certain things" but also because he's a smarmy, pube-headed t**t.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 03, 2014, 09:35:28 PM


All great stuff that we should all applaud anyone who'll win a major from this small island. Same as Darren, and Graham. But it's not about the alleged choking here it's about knocking someone over their views on certain things
I'd knock him because of his views on "certain things" but also because he's a smarmy, pube-headed t**t.

Very eloquently put
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: muppet on March 04, 2014, 06:03:46 PM
Yeah - the shot of a choker OK. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3QwwUwAIBTw)

Great shot alright.

Other than Tiger's at the 16th in Augusta, this is my favourite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w86X4wjjhw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w86X4wjjhw)

The commentary makes it even better.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: thebigfella on March 04, 2014, 06:13:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwjYrY1Xx74 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwjYrY1Xx74)

Much better shot IMO
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Apparently so on March 04, 2014, 07:51:06 PM
His hair is a disgrace

Sort it out ffs
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: charlieTully on March 04, 2014, 08:21:09 PM


All great stuff that we should all applaud anyone who'll win a major from this small island. Same as Darren, and Graham. But it's not about the alleged choking here it's about knocking someone over their views on certain things
I'd knock him because of his views on "certain things" but also because he's a smarmy, pube-headed t**t.

I agree he is a smary pube-headed twat, I couldn't care less for his views, but I am sick of losing coin on him, backed him when he choked at the masters, swore I never would again but decided to at the weekend thinking he had a major point to prove, choked again, he will probably go out this weekend and win by eight strokes. Before you say it Milltown I know your glad. But then again you are a twat also.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 04, 2014, 08:32:46 PM


All great stuff that we should all applaud anyone who'll win a major from this small island. Same as Darren, and Graham. But it's not about the alleged choking here it's about knocking someone over their views on certain things
I'd knock him because of his views on "certain things" but also because he's a smarmy, pube-headed t**t.

I agree he is a smary pube-headed t**t, I couldn't care less for his views, but I am sick of losing coin on him, backed him when he choked at the masters, swore I never would again but decided to at the weekend thinking he had a major point to prove, choked again, he will probably go out this weekend and win by eight strokes. Before you say it Milltown I know your glad. But then again you are a t**t also.

Hmmmm personal abuse? you are the typical stereotype

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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: charlieTully on March 04, 2014, 09:08:41 PM


All great stuff that we should all applaud anyone who'll win a major from this small island. Same as Darren, and Graham. But it's not about the alleged choking here it's about knocking someone over their views on certain things
I'd knock him because of his views on "certain things" but also because he's a smarmy, pube-headed t**t.

I agree he is a smary pube-headed t**t, I couldn't care less for his views, but I am sick of losing coin on him, backed him when he choked at the masters, swore I never would again but decided to at the weekend thinking he had a major point to prove, choked again, he will probably go out this weekend and win by eight strokes. Before you say it Milltown I know your glad. But then again you are a t**t also.

Hmmmm personal abuse? you are the typical stereotype

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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: WT4E on May 21, 2014, 01:49:54 PM
I see he's done it again:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/golf/27501381

He must have a serious roving eye!!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Christmas Lights on May 21, 2014, 02:08:51 PM
He's an idiot anyway for even considering getting married at his age and fame and type of lifestyle he has.

He will be forever touring with his golf and with each country there will be so much easy poontang to have, so why the hell would he be getting married? 
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 21, 2014, 02:23:11 PM
Maybe he will get back to winning again.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: WT4E on May 21, 2014, 02:25:51 PM
He's an idiot anyway for even considering getting married at his age and fame and type of lifestyle he has.

He will be forever touring with his golf and with each country there will be so much easy poontang to have, so why the hell would he be getting married?

Agreed!

But why get engaged in the first place and why wait to the invites are going out to call it off! Bad Form IMO!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Bord na Mona man on May 21, 2014, 02:45:25 PM
http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2014/05/21/trust-me-there-are-plenty-more-fish-in-the-sea-woods-assures-mcilroy/
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 21, 2014, 03:13:14 PM
He's an idiot anyway for even considering getting married at his age and fame and type of lifestyle he has.

He will be forever touring with his golf and with each country there will be so much easy poontang to have, so why the hell would he be getting married?

Agreed!

But why get engaged in the first place and why wait to the invites are going out to call it off! Bad Form IMO!

Are you pissed off because you are missing out on the wedding?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on May 21, 2014, 03:16:43 PM
You're totally right. The wee b**tard probably woke up yesterday and thought, how can I break this girls heart today.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: WT4E on May 21, 2014, 03:29:54 PM
He's an idiot anyway for even considering getting married at his age and fame and type of lifestyle he has.

He will be forever touring with his golf and with each country there will be so much easy poontang to have, so why the hell would he be getting married?

Agreed!

But why get engaged in the first place and why wait to the invites are going out to call it off! Bad Form IMO!

Are you pissed off because you are missing out on the wedding?

No because I'm missing out on the stag do!!!!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 21, 2014, 06:28:37 PM
seems pretty pathetic to ask her at Christmas, then pull out especially after senting out wedding invitations at the weekend i sort understand if he was having 2nd thoughts if she had asked him and he had feel under pressure to say yes, maybe she can actually go back to training regularly for tennis instead of following him round on tour like a little lapdog, she be better for it,though she not think that at the minute, ah classy guy!!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on May 21, 2014, 06:34:10 PM
100% less pathetic than going forward with it
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tubberman on May 21, 2014, 07:32:31 PM
100% less pathetic than going forward with it

Exactly. He obviously thought it was what he wanted when he proposed.
He's realised now that's not the case, and it takes balls to call it off - especially when you've got the world media reporting on it and speculating.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 21, 2014, 08:12:49 PM
been abit handy to call it over before senting out the wedding invites, he see the light between the weekend past and now.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: southdown on May 22, 2014, 12:22:11 PM
I have said it on here before, there is nothing to like about him. 
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2014, 12:27:16 PM
I have said it on here before, there is nothing to like about him.

Course, we know you hate him.

He'd have been a complete cnut had he married her and then divorced her soon after. Like millions of people who get into a relationship, some get married and some don't. Sending invitations means feck all, these things happen.

 Live your life in the public eye will always bring problems, every dick gets to have their 10cents worth, as if they know these people personally.  ;D
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AQMP on May 22, 2014, 12:38:28 PM
I'm glad he's British!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: southdown on May 22, 2014, 12:40:31 PM
Just my opinion Milltown, which I have held for some time based on his interviews on TV, public strops and generally how he comes across, long before this incident.  Looks like I've touched a nerve!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on May 22, 2014, 12:43:53 PM
I have said it on here before, there is nothing to like about him.

Course, we know you hate him.

He'd have been a complete cnut had he married her and then divorced her soon after. Like millions of people who get into a relationship, some get married and some don't. Sending invitations means feck all, these things happen.

 Live your life in the public eye will always bring problems, every dick gets to have their 10cents worth, as if they know these people personally.  ;D
Plus he would have had to give her a big pay off....
Maybe she wouldn't sign a prenup and he was advised against marrying her....
I agree with southdown also.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Franko on May 22, 2014, 12:46:20 PM
Agree with southdown - why do some people feel the need to have a hissy fit when someone says they dont like him?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Syferus on May 22, 2014, 12:54:32 PM
I have said it on here before, there is nothing to like about him.

Course, we know you hate him.

He'd have been a complete cnut had he married her and then divorced her soon after. Like millions of people who get into a relationship, some get married and some don't. Sending invitations means feck all, these things happen.

 Live your life in the public eye will always bring problems, every dick gets to have their 10cents worth, as if they know these people personally.  ;D
Plus he would have had to give her a big pay off....
Maybe she wouldn't sign a prenup and he was advised against marrying her....
I agree with southdown also.

Rory would be entitled to her not so meagre riches too.

And yeah, to whoever said it. Nothing to like about McElroy except for, y'know, his once in a generation talent.

Lad gets an awful doing around here for not being a card-carrying republican.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: ballinaman on May 22, 2014, 12:54:44 PM
He stole a bird off me in coppers a few years back....thought I had it in the bag and he came out of nowhere the curly haired little bollox.  >:(
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Syferus on May 22, 2014, 12:58:59 PM
He stole a bird off me in coppers a few years back....thought I had it in the bag and he came out of nowhere the curly haired little bollox.  >:(

Does the "I got 40 hoppers cut there last week" line actually work on the Copper clientele?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: ballinaman on May 22, 2014, 01:04:28 PM
He stole a bird off me in coppers a few years back....thought I had it in the bag and he came out of nowhere the curly haired little bollox.  >:(

Does the "I got 40 hoppers cut there last week" line actually work on the Copper clientele?
Ah sure listen, trade secrets. You'll get there someday, just have your game face on.
Mine is something like....I'm so gorgeous, they want to put me under arrest.
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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: seafoid on May 22, 2014, 01:21:57 PM
I have said it on here before, there is nothing to like about him.

Course, we know you hate him.

He'd have been a complete cnut had he married her and then divorced her soon after. Like millions of people who get into a relationship, some get married and some don't. Sending invitations means feck all, these things happen.

 Live your life in the public eye will always bring problems, every dick gets to have their 10cents worth, as if they know these people personally.  ;D
Plus he would have had to give her a big pay off....
Maybe she wouldn't sign a prenup and he was advised against marrying her....
I agree with southdown also.

Rory would be entitled to her not so meagre riches too.

And yeah, to whoever said it. Nothing to like about McElroy except for, y'know, his once in a generation talent.

Lad gets an awful doing around here for not being a card-carrying republican.
I feel sorry for him. All that attention and he's only 25 and while he's a great golfer he's still very young and hasn't much experience of the tricky world of the female of the species.
He would probably be better off taking a year off and finding out a bit more about what he wants.   Pro sport is a complete circus as well.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2014, 01:33:37 PM
Just my opinion Milltown, which I have held for some time based on his interviews on TV, public strops and generally how he comes across, long before this incident.  Looks like I've touched a nerve!

You must watch him a lot then, strange for someone who doesn't like him to watch a lot of his interviews. I personally don't know him other than his golf exploits which are very good considering the talent out there. No hissy fit at all either. But a lot of people base their ideas of someone on loaded interviews and sound bites which may or may not be correct. Sure it's easy to believe in what you read in the papers.

Oh and, I've been saying this a long time means what? We have a tendency to knock our own aping the English in that regard

Which Irish sporting greats do you hold in high regard? I'm sure most will have something in their closet which wouldn't sit with some.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: EC Unique on May 22, 2014, 01:47:26 PM
Was in his company once on a night out about 5 years ago in Belfast. He is a friend of a friend sort of thing. Found him a sound lad. Totally different to what you see on the TV.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: nrico2006 on May 22, 2014, 02:09:24 PM
Unbelievable the attitude towards probably our best sportman, always the same.  Some dung spouted about him yet god forbid anybody even try and comment on incidents involving GAA players who have allegedly robbed houses, starred in videos of erotic nature or even caused the death of a relative.  I wouldn't like to see this thread if McIlroy actually did something wrong.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Franko on May 22, 2014, 02:35:46 PM
Just my opinion Milltown, which I have held for some time based on his interviews on TV, public strops and generally how he comes across, long before this incident.  Looks like I've touched a nerve!

You must watch him a lot then, strange for someone who doesn't like him to watch a lot of his interviews. I personally don't know him other than his golf exploits which are very good considering the talent out there. No hissy fit at all either. But a lot of people base their ideas of someone on loaded interviews and sound bites which may or may not be correct. Sure it's easy to believe in what you read in the papers.

Oh and, I've been saying this a long time means what? We have a tendency to knock our own aping the English in that regard

Which Irish sporting greats do you hold in high regard? I'm sure most will have something in their closet which wouldn't sit with some.

Surely the part in bold applies to those who have a good opinion of him too?  Or do you have to know him personally to be allowed to dislike him?

I assume that 'I've been saying this for a long time' is a reference to his decision on what team to represent/not represent at the olympics.  Some people seem to think that everyone who expresses a dislike for the guy does it solely on this issue.

Also, having a 'once in a lifetime talent' doesn't mean that you must like the lad... I give you Ronnie O'Sullivan/Phil Taylor/Floyd Mayweather/George Best/Tiger Woods... continue ad infinitum...
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2014, 02:43:43 PM
Just my opinion Milltown, which I have held for some time based on his interviews on TV, public strops and generally how he comes across, long before this incident.  Looks like I've touched a nerve!

You must watch him a lot then, strange for someone who doesn't like him to watch a lot of his interviews. I personally don't know him other than his golf exploits which are very good considering the talent out there. No hissy fit at all either. But a lot of people base their ideas of someone on loaded interviews and sound bites which may or may not be correct. Sure it's easy to believe in what you read in the papers.

Oh and, I've been saying this a long time means what? We have a tendency to knock our own aping the English in that regard

Which Irish sporting greats do you hold in high regard? I'm sure most will have something in their closet which wouldn't sit with some.

Surely the part in bold applies to those who have a good opinion of him too?  Or do you have to know him personally to be allowed to dislike him?

I assume that 'I've been saying this for a long time' is a reference to his decision on what team to represent/not represent at the olympics.  Some people seem to think that everyone who expresses a dislike for the guy does it solely on this issue.

Also, having a 'once in a lifetime talent' doesn't mean that you must like the lad... I give you Ronnie O'Sullivan/Phil Taylor/Floyd Mayweather/George Best/Tiger Woods... continue ad infinitum...

Is that how you base your opinion on people? What you read in the papers?

My response wasn't for you.  I wouldn't say you're a dcik based on your musing here, there are areas that we might not see eye to eye on but I doubt very much that if we met that I'd have a problem or dislike you. But if I held on to the points you solely made that I didn't agree with then I'd be a fool to think you are a complete tool ;)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Franko on May 22, 2014, 02:52:42 PM
Just my opinion Milltown, which I have held for some time based on his interviews on TV, public strops and generally how he comes across, long before this incident.  Looks like I've touched a nerve!

You must watch him a lot then, strange for someone who doesn't like him to watch a lot of his interviews. I personally don't know him other than his golf exploits which are very good considering the talent out there. No hissy fit at all either. But a lot of people base their ideas of someone on loaded interviews and sound bites which may or may not be correct. Sure it's easy to believe in what you read in the papers.

Oh and, I've been saying this a long time means what? We have a tendency to knock our own aping the English in that regard

Which Irish sporting greats do you hold in high regard? I'm sure most will have something in their closet which wouldn't sit with some.

Surely the part in bold applies to those who have a good opinion of him too?  Or do you have to know him personally to be allowed to dislike him?

I assume that 'I've been saying this for a long time' is a reference to his decision on what team to represent/not represent at the olympics.  Some people seem to think that everyone who expresses a dislike for the guy does it solely on this issue.

Also, having a 'once in a lifetime talent' doesn't mean that you must like the lad... I give you Ronnie O'Sullivan/Phil Taylor/Floyd Mayweather/George Best/Tiger Woods... continue ad infinitum...

Is that how you base your opinion on people? What you read in the papers?

My response wasn't for you.  I wouldn't say you're a dcik based on your musing here, there are areas that we might not see eye to eye on but I doubt very much that if we met that I'd have a problem or dislike you. But if I held on to the points you solely made that I didn't agree with then I'd be a fool to think you are a complete tool ;)

So what do you base your opinion of him on?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Brick Tamlin on May 22, 2014, 02:56:21 PM
why would someone hate McIlroy so much say in comparison to the likes of Brian O'Driscoll.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Franko on May 22, 2014, 03:07:39 PM
I personally dont 'hate' the guy... I just dislike him.

I don't think he comes across as genuine at all in interviews, his walking off the course in a huff when he wasn't playing well last year and his twitter spat and comments towards Jay Townsend are a few reasons why.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2014, 03:18:03 PM
Just my opinion Milltown, which I have held for some time based on his interviews on TV, public strops and generally how he comes across, long before this incident.  Looks like I've touched a nerve!

You must watch him a lot then, strange for someone who doesn't like him to watch a lot of his interviews. I personally don't know him other than his golf exploits which are very good considering the talent out there. No hissy fit at all either. But a lot of people base their ideas of someone on loaded interviews and sound bites which may or may not be correct. Sure it's easy to believe in what you read in the papers.

Oh and, I've been saying this a long time means what? We have a tendency to knock our own aping the English in that regard

Which Irish sporting greats do you hold in high regard? I'm sure most will have something in their closet which wouldn't sit with some.

Surely the part in bold applies to those who have a good opinion of him too?  Or do you have to know him personally to be allowed to dislike him?

I assume that 'I've been saying this for a long time' is a reference to his decision on what team to represent/not represent at the olympics.  Some people seem to think that everyone who expresses a dislike for the guy does it solely on this issue.

Also, having a 'once in a lifetime talent' doesn't mean that you must like the lad... I give you Ronnie O'Sullivan/Phil Taylor/Floyd Mayweather/George Best/Tiger Woods... continue ad infinitum...

Is that how you base your opinion on people? What you read in the papers?

My response wasn't for you.  I wouldn't say you're a dcik based on your musing here, there are areas that we might not see eye to eye on but I doubt very much that if we met that I'd have a problem or dislike you. But if I held on to the points you solely made that I didn't agree with then I'd be a fool to think you are a complete tool ;)

So what do you base your opinion of him on?

He is an extremely talented young fella who gives a lot of money away to charities and has done really well for himself, as for his interviews, I haven't seen/heard anything that would actually make me dislike the guy. Is he cocky and throw the odd strop? yeah most professional sports players do.

Living your life with a camera not too far away and dating someone as famous as him would (I'd imagine) drive you bonkers, living as he has done so far it has to be commended with how he's done that, relatively speaking. As someone has already said, he isn't a raging alcoholic, wife beater, racist, or show signs of being a bigot. Anyways I wish him well
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Franko on May 22, 2014, 03:21:24 PM
Just my opinion Milltown, which I have held for some time based on his interviews on TV, public strops and generally how he comes across, long before this incident.  Looks like I've touched a nerve!

You must watch him a lot then, strange for someone who doesn't like him to watch a lot of his interviews. I personally don't know him other than his golf exploits which are very good considering the talent out there. No hissy fit at all either. But a lot of people base their ideas of someone on loaded interviews and sound bites which may or may not be correct. Sure it's easy to believe in what you read in the papers.

Oh and, I've been saying this a long time means what? We have a tendency to knock our own aping the English in that regard

Which Irish sporting greats do you hold in high regard? I'm sure most will have something in their closet which wouldn't sit with some.

Surely the part in bold applies to those who have a good opinion of him too?  Or do you have to know him personally to be allowed to dislike him?

I assume that 'I've been saying this for a long time' is a reference to his decision on what team to represent/not represent at the olympics.  Some people seem to think that everyone who expresses a dislike for the guy does it solely on this issue.

Also, having a 'once in a lifetime talent' doesn't mean that you must like the lad... I give you Ronnie O'Sullivan/Phil Taylor/Floyd Mayweather/George Best/Tiger Woods... continue ad infinitum...

Is that how you base your opinion on people? What you read in the papers?

My response wasn't for you.  I wouldn't say you're a dcik based on your musing here, there are areas that we might not see eye to eye on but I doubt very much that if we met that I'd have a problem or dislike you. But if I held on to the points you solely made that I didn't agree with then I'd be a fool to think you are a complete tool ;)

So what do you base your opinion of him on?

He is an extremely talented young fella who gives a lot of money away to charities and has done really well for himself, as for his interviews, I haven't seen/heard anything that would actually make me dislike the guy. Is he cocky and throw the odd strop? yeah most professional sports players do.

Living your life with a camera not too far away and dating someone as famous as him would (I'd imagine) drive you bonkers, living as he has done so far it has to be commended with how he's done that, relatively speaking. As someone has already said, he isn't a raging alcoholic, wife beater, racist, or show signs of being a bigot. Anyways I wish him well

So stuff you see on TV and read in the papers then.  Grand so.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 22, 2014, 03:28:23 PM


All great stuff that we should all applaud anyone who'll win a major from this small island. Same as Darren, and Graham. But it's not about the alleged choking here it's about knocking someone over their views on certain things
I'd knock him because of his views on "certain things" but also because he's a smarmy, pube-headed t**t.

I agree he is a smary pube-headed t**t, I couldn't care less for his views, but I am sick of losing coin on him, backed him when he choked at the masters, swore I never would again but decided to at the weekend thinking he had a major point to prove, choked again, he will probably go out this weekend and win by eight strokes. Before you say it Milltown I know your glad. But then again you are a t**t also.

Hmmmm personal abuse? you are the typical stereotype

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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 22, 2014, 03:31:53 PM
He stole a bird off me in coppers a few years back....thought I had it in the bag and he came out of nowhere the curly haired little bollox.  >:(

Coppers must have been poor that nite when it was a choice between you and McIlroy!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 22, 2014, 04:56:22 PM
Just my opinion Milltown, which I have held for some time based on his interviews on TV, public strops and generally how he comes across, long before this incident.  Looks like I've touched a nerve!

You must watch him a lot then, strange for someone who doesn't like him to watch a lot of his interviews. I personally don't know him other than his golf exploits which are very good considering the talent out there. No hissy fit at all either. But a lot of people base their ideas of someone on loaded interviews and sound bites which may or may not be correct. Sure it's easy to believe in what you read in the papers.

Oh and, I've been saying this a long time means what? We have a tendency to knock our own aping the English in that regard

Which Irish sporting greats do you hold in high regard? I'm sure most will have something in their closet which wouldn't sit with some.

Surely the part in bold applies to those who have a good opinion of him too?  Or do you have to know him personally to be allowed to dislike him?

I assume that 'I've been saying this for a long time' is a reference to his decision on what team to represent/not represent at the olympics.  Some people seem to think that everyone who expresses a dislike for the guy does it solely on this issue.

Also, having a 'once in a lifetime talent' doesn't mean that you must like the lad... I give you Ronnie O'Sullivan/Phil Taylor/Floyd Mayweather/George Best/Tiger Woods... continue ad infinitum...

Is that how you base your opinion on people? What you read in the papers?

My response wasn't for you.  I wouldn't say you're a dcik based on your musing here, there are areas that we might not see eye to eye on but I doubt very much that if we met that I'd have a problem or dislike you. But if I held on to the points you solely made that I didn't agree with then I'd be a fool to think you are a complete tool ;)

So what do you base your opinion of him on?

He is an extremely talented young fella who gives a lot of money away to charities and has done really well for himself, as for his interviews, I haven't seen/heard anything that would actually make me dislike the guy. Is he cocky and throw the odd strop? yeah most professional sports players do.

Living your life with a camera not too far away and dating someone as famous as him would (I'd imagine) drive you bonkers, living as he has done so far it has to be commended with how he's done that, relatively speaking. As someone has already said, he isn't a raging alcoholic, wife beater, racist, or show signs of being a bigot. Anyways I wish him well

So stuff you see on TV and read in the papers then.  Grand so.

I don't watch the news nor do I buy a paper, I get most of my info from here funny enough, the Oracle ;D

I didn't say I dislike/hate sports stars for having a huff or a twitter 'fight' ffs what age are you? Do you ever get annoyed and have a huff and feel sorry for yourself? MOST people do, only when a top sports star does it it's big news.

Usually when I've lost a game for the club (beer belly league even) I get really annoyed. I struggled for years to warm to David Beckham and the stereotype in which the media built around him,  I worked out that media gets off on daft stories and people buy into it. now I think (due to a lot of work he does for charities and the like) he's a decent fella and comes across during interviews as being a great fella and up for a laugh. 
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on May 22, 2014, 08:15:35 PM
My only disappointment with Rory is the way he completely ignores the GAA. Okay so, he was brought in a school that doesnt promote gaelic, but his uncle played for Armagh, and even McDowell tweets about the hurling.

Other than that I think he is terrific and a great ambassador for golf and Ireland.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on May 22, 2014, 08:16:30 PM
My only disappointment with Rory is the way he completely ignores the GAA. Okay so, he was brought in a school that doesnt promote gaelic, but his uncle played for Armagh, and even McDowell tweets about the hurling.

Other than that I think he is terrific and a great ambassador for golf and Ireland and The United Kingdom.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: trileacman on May 23, 2014, 12:07:02 AM
I think McIlroy is allright not as bad as some of you make out. He comes across shite dealing with the media but again he didn't ask for it, it's an aside from his job of playing golf. I'd have more beef with annoying media whores who love the limelight.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: BarryBreensBandage on May 23, 2014, 06:16:01 AM
I personally dont 'hate' the guy... I just dislike him.

I don't think he comes across as genuine at all in interviews, his walking off the course in a huff when he wasn't playing well last year and his twitter spat and comments towards Jay Townsend are a few reasons why.

Can't agree with this. I think he actually gives answers in interviews that few other sportsmen of his calibre do.
If you want disingenuous, try Tiger or any of the other American pros.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 23, 2014, 07:16:48 AM
Jeez he gives very thorough and reasoned answers in his interviews.

No doubt some on here dont like him as he doesnt raise the Tricolour.

I used to think Gmac was a bit of a prat (the accent) but I've grown to really like him!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: nrico2006 on May 23, 2014, 07:31:23 AM
McIlroy comes across very honest in any interview, as does GMac who is very likeable.  You don't hear too much about the like of McIlroys foundation which last week donated something like £1 million to childrens cancer charities.  How many other stars do this?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Christmas Lights on May 23, 2014, 08:40:56 AM
McIlroy comes across very honest in any interview, as does GMac who is very likeable.  You don't hear too much about the like of McIlroys foundation which last week donated something like £1 million to childrens cancer charities. How many other stars do this?

Eh?  thousands of sports stars and celebrities raise money for charities.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Under Lights on May 23, 2014, 08:59:47 AM
McIlroy comes across very honest in any interview, as does GMac who is very likeable.  You don't hear too much about the like of McIlroys foundation which last week donated something like £1 million to childrens cancer charities. How many other stars do this?

Eh?  thousands of sports stars and celebrities raise money for charities.

Name them.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Keyser soze on May 23, 2014, 09:02:27 AM
I don't hate McIlroy but I do think he is a bit of a tool.

Smarmy, unctuous, spoiled, whiny are some words that come to mind when I think of him.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Megaman on May 23, 2014, 09:03:48 AM
i have met both McIlroy and McDowell.

Before hand, just going by the media etc, i would have not really liked McIlroy and preferred McDowell

After meeting both of them my opinion changed, McIlroy was a sound fella and was good to talk to, McDowell was full of himself and a bit of a twat.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: nrico2006 on May 23, 2014, 09:34:42 AM
McIlroy comes across very honest in any interview, as does GMac who is very likeable.  You don't hear too much about the like of McIlroys foundation which last week donated something like £1 million to childrens cancer charities. How many other stars do this?

Eh?  thousands of sports stars and celebrities raise money for charities.

My point was that he gets no credit for doing anything yet people here jump on him for anything at all.  He has done nothing really to deserve any hatred, and as I said there wouldn't be many other Irish sports people who raise a million for charity.  As for this craic about him being spoiled, where does this come from?  Spoiled is someone who got everything they wanted when growing up, and I'm sure he got raised no differently to many of us.  As for the present, he has a lot of money and can buy what he wants I imagine, but again he would be no more 'spoiled' than Brian O'Driscoll or any other highly paid sports star.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: general_lee on May 23, 2014, 09:43:56 AM
McIlroy comes across very honest in any interview, as does GMac who is very likeable.  You don't hear too much about the like of McIlroys foundation which last week donated something like £1 million to childrens cancer charities. How many other stars do this?

Eh?  thousands of sports stars and celebrities raise money for charities.

My point was that he gets no credit for doing anything yet people here jump on him for anything at all.  He has done nothing really to deserve any hatred, and as I said there wouldn't be many other Irish sports people who raise a million for charity.  As for this craic about him being spoiled, where does this come from?  Spoiled is someone who got everything they wanted when growing up, and I'm sure he got raised no differently to many of us.  As for the present, he has a lot of money and can buy what he wants I imagine, but again he would be no more 'spoiled' than Brian O'Driscoll or any other highly paid sports star.
His parents worked over-time for a good part of his childhood to fund his talent eg build a practice area at the family home - all worth it mind. So yeah he may well have been a bit spoilt growing up.

I agree with everything else though. The guy gets slaughtered. Bad timing with the break up no doubt but better now than 4/5 years down the line.

I like Rory, I've met him albeit before his fame went global, he was as a humble quiet lad who didn't drink.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AZOffaly on May 23, 2014, 09:50:16 AM
If he went riding all around him in 2 or 3 years, he'd be called two ends of a bollox on here, and get dogs abuse. The lad made a mistake in getting engaged, probably on a rebound after getting back together from the first break up. It's a shit situation for the poor lad, and for the poor girl, but it's far far better now than after they got married or had a child or two.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Christmas Lights on May 23, 2014, 10:51:03 AM
I have a different opinion on what a spoilt child is.
A spoilt child is a child who gets nearly everything they want without having to do anything for it.  A spoilt child usually grows up and has very little to show for their years of endless easy hand-outs.  They wont be able to do anything for themselves.

I would classify McIlroy as more a privileged child probably growing up.  There's a difference.  A privileged child is one whose parents support them in whatever they do and whatever they need BUT they have to work for this privilege.  Some people on here are making out that Rory McIlroy was sent by the golf gods and it was just a matter of showing up on the golf-course to achieve whats hes achieved.  It takes a lot of dedication, commitment, support and a hell of a lot of practice to get to where hes got.

Lets also not forget how well documented it is that his Dad maybe worked 2 or 3 jobs so fund Rorys ability.  I think people labelling him a spoilt child is incredibly harsh.  Privileged surely, but not spoilt.     
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on May 23, 2014, 11:01:06 AM
Some people just hate to see others do well.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Christmas Lights on May 23, 2014, 11:02:14 AM
Some people just hate to see others do well.

Some people just want to see the world burn.


Im one of them.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: NAG1 on May 23, 2014, 11:23:29 AM
I have a different opinion on what a spoilt child is.
A spoilt child is a child who gets nearly everything they want without having to do anything for it.  A spoilt child usually grows up and has very little to show for their years of endless easy hand-outs.  They wont be able to do anything for themselves.

I would classify McIlroy as more a privileged child probably growing up.  There's a difference.  A privileged child is one whose parents support them in whatever they do and whatever they need BUT they have to work for this privilege.  Some people on here are making out that Rory McIlroy was sent by the golf gods and it was just a matter of showing up on the golf-course to achieve whats hes achieved.  It takes a lot of dedication, commitment, support and a hell of a lot of practice to get to where hes got.

Lets also not forget how well documented it is that his Dad maybe worked 2 or 3 jobs so fund Rorys ability.  I think people labelling him a spoilt child is incredibly harsh.  Privileged surely, but not spoilt.   

Thats true but lets face it there arent too many non privileged golfers knocking about at that standard anyway.

But at the end of the day that is neither here nor there, he is a young lad, think of the other young lads you know around his age and the antics that they are getting up to every weekend and not a mention of it.

Just because he is an extremely talented golfer doesn't make any difference to the fact he is a young lad.

Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Franko on May 23, 2014, 12:00:23 PM
Just my opinion Milltown, which I have held for some time based on his interviews on TV, public strops and generally how he comes across, long before this incident.  Looks like I've touched a nerve!

You must watch him a lot then, strange for someone who doesn't like him to watch a lot of his interviews. I personally don't know him other than his golf exploits which are very good considering the talent out there. No hissy fit at all either. But a lot of people base their ideas of someone on loaded interviews and sound bites which may or may not be correct. Sure it's easy to believe in what you read in the papers.

Oh and, I've been saying this a long time means what? We have a tendency to knock our own aping the English in that regard

Which Irish sporting greats do you hold in high regard? I'm sure most will have something in their closet which wouldn't sit with some.

Surely the part in bold applies to those who have a good opinion of him too?  Or do you have to know him personally to be allowed to dislike him?

I assume that 'I've been saying this for a long time' is a reference to his decision on what team to represent/not represent at the olympics.  Some people seem to think that everyone who expresses a dislike for the guy does it solely on this issue.

Also, having a 'once in a lifetime talent' doesn't mean that you must like the lad... I give you Ronnie O'Sullivan/Phil Taylor/Floyd Mayweather/George Best/Tiger Woods... continue ad infinitum...

Is that how you base your opinion on people? What you read in the papers?

My response wasn't for you.  I wouldn't say you're a dcik based on your musing here, there are areas that we might not see eye to eye on but I doubt very much that if we met that I'd have a problem or dislike you. But if I held on to the points you solely made that I didn't agree with then I'd be a fool to think you are a complete tool ;)

So what do you base your opinion of him on?

He is an extremely talented young fella who gives a lot of money away to charities and has done really well for himself, as for his interviews, I haven't seen/heard anything that would actually make me dislike the guy. Is he cocky and throw the odd strop? yeah most professional sports players do.

Living your life with a camera not too far away and dating someone as famous as him would (I'd imagine) drive you bonkers, living as he has done so far it has to be commended with how he's done that, relatively speaking. As someone has already said, he isn't a raging alcoholic, wife beater, racist, or show signs of being a bigot. Anyways I wish him well

So stuff you see on TV and read in the papers then.  Grand so.

I don't watch the news nor do I buy a paper, I get most of my info from here funny enough, the Oracle ;D

I didn't say I dislike/hate sports stars for having a huff or a twitter 'fight' ffs what age are you? Do you ever get annoyed and have a huff and feel sorry for yourself? MOST people do, only when a top sports star does it it's big news.

Usually when I've lost a game for the club (beer belly league even) I get really annoyed. I struggled for years to warm to David Beckham and the stereotype in which the media built around him,  I worked out that media gets off on daft stories and people buy into it. now I think (due to a lot of work he does for charities and the like) he's a decent fella and comes across during interviews as being a great fella and up for a laugh.

Ah right - so you base your opinion of him on the gaaboard.  ::)

I don't like the guy - a lot of people agree with me.  You like him - a lot of people share your opinion also.  Whereas I couldn't give a flying fcuk what you think of him it seems that knickers get seriously knotted when someone presents a bad opinion of him.  Why do you care so much?

PS. Is there a minimum age for being allowed to dislike someone because they are behaving like a twat?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: thebigfella on May 23, 2014, 12:20:41 PM
I have a different opinion on what a spoilt child is.
A spoilt child is a child who gets nearly everything they want without having to do anything for it.  A spoilt child usually grows up and has very little to show for their years of endless easy hand-outs.  They wont be able to do anything for themselves.

I would classify McIlroy as more a privileged child probably growing up.  There's a difference.  A privileged child is one whose parents support them in whatever they do and whatever they need BUT they have to work for this privilege.  Some people on here are making out that Rory McIlroy was sent by the golf gods and it was just a matter of showing up on the golf-course to achieve whats hes achieved.  It takes a lot of dedication, commitment, support and a hell of a lot of practice to get to where hes got.

Lets also not forget how well documented it is that his Dad maybe worked 2 or 3 jobs so fund Rorys ability.  I think people labelling him a spoilt child is incredibly harsh.  Privileged surely, but not spoilt.   

Yep, well said. Its clear a number of posters have never excelled at anything in their lives because they have no concept of the dedication, commitment, support etc.... require to get to the any level let alone the highest.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on May 23, 2014, 12:24:57 PM
its good to see then that he took his father along for the ride;.

pun intended  :)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Christmas Lights on May 23, 2014, 12:53:21 PM
its good to see then that he took his father along for the ride;.

pun intended  :)

Elaborate?

You saying his Dad is now getting serious poontang on the back of Rors success?
Reaping the rewards of all his years of dedication to his son?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2014, 01:07:34 PM
Just my opinion Milltown, which I have held for some time based on his interviews on TV, public strops and generally how he comes across, long before this incident.  Looks like I've touched a nerve!

You must watch him a lot then, strange for someone who doesn't like him to watch a lot of his interviews. I personally don't know him other than his golf exploits which are very good considering the talent out there. No hissy fit at all either. But a lot of people base their ideas of someone on loaded interviews and sound bites which may or may not be correct. Sure it's easy to believe in what you read in the papers.

Oh and, I've been saying this a long time means what? We have a tendency to knock our own aping the English in that regard

Which Irish sporting greats do you hold in high regard? I'm sure most will have something in their closet which wouldn't sit with some.

Surely the part in bold applies to those who have a good opinion of him too?  Or do you have to know him personally to be allowed to dislike him?

I assume that 'I've been saying this for a long time' is a reference to his decision on what team to represent/not represent at the olympics.  Some people seem to think that everyone who expresses a dislike for the guy does it solely on this issue.

Also, having a 'once in a lifetime talent' doesn't mean that you must like the lad... I give you Ronnie O'Sullivan/Phil Taylor/Floyd Mayweather/George Best/Tiger Woods... continue ad infinitum...

Is that how you base your opinion on people? What you read in the papers?

My response wasn't for you.  I wouldn't say you're a dcik based on your musing here, there are areas that we might not see eye to eye on but I doubt very much that if we met that I'd have a problem or dislike you. But if I held on to the points you solely made that I didn't agree with then I'd be a fool to think you are a complete tool ;)

So what do you base your opinion of him on?

He is an extremely talented young fella who gives a lot of money away to charities and has done really well for himself, as for his interviews, I haven't seen/heard anything that would actually make me dislike the guy. Is he cocky and throw the odd strop? yeah most professional sports players do.

Living your life with a camera not too far away and dating someone as famous as him would (I'd imagine) drive you bonkers, living as he has done so far it has to be commended with how he's done that, relatively speaking. As someone has already said, he isn't a raging alcoholic, wife beater, racist, or show signs of being a bigot. Anyways I wish him well

So stuff you see on TV and read in the papers then.  Grand so.

I don't watch the news nor do I buy a paper, I get most of my info from here funny enough, the Oracle ;D

I didn't say I dislike/hate sports stars for having a huff or a twitter 'fight' ffs what age are you? Do you ever get annoyed and have a huff and feel sorry for yourself? MOST people do, only when a top sports star does it it's big news.

Usually when I've lost a game for the club (beer belly league even) I get really annoyed. I struggled for years to warm to David Beckham and the stereotype in which the media built around him,  I worked out that media gets off on daft stories and people buy into it. now I think (due to a lot of work he does for charities and the like) he's a decent fella and comes across during interviews as being a great fella and up for a laugh.

Ah right - so you base your opinion of him on the gaaboard.  ::)

I don't like the guy - a lot of people agree with me.  You like him - a lot of people share your opinion also.  Whereas I couldn't give a flying fcuk what you think of him it seems that knickers get seriously knotted when someone presents a bad opinion of him.  Why do you care so much?

PS. Is there a minimum age for being allowed to dislike someone because they are behaving like a t**t?

Smiley face means I'm taking the piss (shakes head)

You are basing your hatred on things he has said in interviews (being honest) and a strop in a tournament, is that it? Oh breaking up with a girl..... WTF !! give me some real reasons please. As for caring I couldn't careless, if he was in the same pub I wouldn't be over annoying him either, he's a fantastic golfer and he's from here. I'm just confused on your daft reasons on not liking someone.

Usually Irish sport fans are supporting sportmen from all over the world, it's nice to have a former No. 1 living on these shores.

I'd say overall there are more people liking him than not liking him. Again I await the sports stars from Ireland you like that are squeaky clean 
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Franko on May 23, 2014, 01:41:28 PM
Just my opinion Milltown, which I have held for some time based on his interviews on TV, public strops and generally how he comes across, long before this incident.  Looks like I've touched a nerve!

You must watch him a lot then, strange for someone who doesn't like him to watch a lot of his interviews. I personally don't know him other than his golf exploits which are very good considering the talent out there. No hissy fit at all either. But a lot of people base their ideas of someone on loaded interviews and sound bites which may or may not be correct. Sure it's easy to believe in what you read in the papers.

Oh and, I've been saying this a long time means what? We have a tendency to knock our own aping the English in that regard

Which Irish sporting greats do you hold in high regard? I'm sure most will have something in their closet which wouldn't sit with some.

Surely the part in bold applies to those who have a good opinion of him too?  Or do you have to know him personally to be allowed to dislike him?

I assume that 'I've been saying this for a long time' is a reference to his decision on what team to represent/not represent at the olympics.  Some people seem to think that everyone who expresses a dislike for the guy does it solely on this issue.

Also, having a 'once in a lifetime talent' doesn't mean that you must like the lad... I give you Ronnie O'Sullivan/Phil Taylor/Floyd Mayweather/George Best/Tiger Woods... continue ad infinitum...

Is that how you base your opinion on people? What you read in the papers?

My response wasn't for you.  I wouldn't say you're a dcik based on your musing here, there are areas that we might not see eye to eye on but I doubt very much that if we met that I'd have a problem or dislike you. But if I held on to the points you solely made that I didn't agree with then I'd be a fool to think you are a complete tool ;)

So what do you base your opinion of him on?

He is an extremely talented young fella who gives a lot of money away to charities and has done really well for himself, as for his interviews, I haven't seen/heard anything that would actually make me dislike the guy. Is he cocky and throw the odd strop? yeah most professional sports players do.

Living your life with a camera not too far away and dating someone as famous as him would (I'd imagine) drive you bonkers, living as he has done so far it has to be commended with how he's done that, relatively speaking. As someone has already said, he isn't a raging alcoholic, wife beater, racist, or show signs of being a bigot. Anyways I wish him well

So stuff you see on TV and read in the papers then.  Grand so.

I don't watch the news nor do I buy a paper, I get most of my info from here funny enough, the Oracle ;D

I didn't say I dislike/hate sports stars for having a huff or a twitter 'fight' ffs what age are you? Do you ever get annoyed and have a huff and feel sorry for yourself? MOST people do, only when a top sports star does it it's big news.

Usually when I've lost a game for the club (beer belly league even) I get really annoyed. I struggled for years to warm to David Beckham and the stereotype in which the media built around him,  I worked out that media gets off on daft stories and people buy into it. now I think (due to a lot of work he does for charities and the like) he's a decent fella and comes across during interviews as being a great fella and up for a laugh.

Ah right - so you base your opinion of him on the gaaboard.  ::)

I don't like the guy - a lot of people agree with me.  You like him - a lot of people share your opinion also.  Whereas I couldn't give a flying fcuk what you think of him it seems that knickers get seriously knotted when someone presents a bad opinion of him.  Why do you care so much?

PS. Is there a minimum age for being allowed to dislike someone because they are behaving like a t**t?

Smiley face means I'm taking the piss (shakes head)

You are basing your hatred on things he has said in interviews (being honest) and a strop in a tournament, is that it? Oh breaking up with a girl..... WTF !! give me some real reasons please. As for caring I couldn't careless, if he was in the same pub I wouldn't be over annoying him either, he's a fantastic golfer and he's from here. I'm just confused on your daft reasons on not liking someone.

Usually Irish sport fans are supporting sportmen from all over the world, it's nice to have a former No. 1 living on these shores.

I'd say overall there are more people liking him than not liking him. Again I await the sports stars from Ireland you like that are squeaky clean

Smiley face means you couldn't answer the question so tried to bluff it off!

Also, I EXPLICITLY stated that I didn't hate him, I just don't like him and I've told you why.

Just let it go man, life's too short!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2014, 01:48:13 PM
Just my opinion Milltown, which I have held for some time based on his interviews on TV, public strops and generally how he comes across, long before this incident.  Looks like I've touched a nerve!

You must watch him a lot then, strange for someone who doesn't like him to watch a lot of his interviews. I personally don't know him other than his golf exploits which are very good considering the talent out there. No hissy fit at all either. But a lot of people base their ideas of someone on loaded interviews and sound bites which may or may not be correct. Sure it's easy to believe in what you read in the papers.

Oh and, I've been saying this a long time means what? We have a tendency to knock our own aping the English in that regard

Which Irish sporting greats do you hold in high regard? I'm sure most will have something in their closet which wouldn't sit with some.

Surely the part in bold applies to those who have a good opinion of him too?  Or do you have to know him personally to be allowed to dislike him?

I assume that 'I've been saying this for a long time' is a reference to his decision on what team to represent/not represent at the olympics.  Some people seem to think that everyone who expresses a dislike for the guy does it solely on this issue.

Also, having a 'once in a lifetime talent' doesn't mean that you must like the lad... I give you Ronnie O'Sullivan/Phil Taylor/Floyd Mayweather/George Best/Tiger Woods... continue ad infinitum...

Is that how you base your opinion on people? What you read in the papers?

My response wasn't for you.  I wouldn't say you're a dcik based on your musing here, there are areas that we might not see eye to eye on but I doubt very much that if we met that I'd have a problem or dislike you. But if I held on to the points you solely made that I didn't agree with then I'd be a fool to think you are a complete tool ;)

So what do you base your opinion of him on?

He is an extremely talented young fella who gives a lot of money away to charities and has done really well for himself, as for his interviews, I haven't seen/heard anything that would actually make me dislike the guy. Is he cocky and throw the odd strop? yeah most professional sports players do.

Living your life with a camera not too far away and dating someone as famous as him would (I'd imagine) drive you bonkers, living as he has done so far it has to be commended with how he's done that, relatively speaking. As someone has already said, he isn't a raging alcoholic, wife beater, racist, or show signs of being a bigot. Anyways I wish him well

So stuff you see on TV and read in the papers then.  Grand so.

I don't watch the news nor do I buy a paper, I get most of my info from here funny enough, the Oracle ;D

I didn't say I dislike/hate sports stars for having a huff or a twitter 'fight' ffs what age are you? Do you ever get annoyed and have a huff and feel sorry for yourself? MOST people do, only when a top sports star does it it's big news.

Usually when I've lost a game for the club (beer belly league even) I get really annoyed. I struggled for years to warm to David Beckham and the stereotype in which the media built around him,  I worked out that media gets off on daft stories and people buy into it. now I think (due to a lot of work he does for charities and the like) he's a decent fella and comes across during interviews as being a great fella and up for a laugh.

Ah right - so you base your opinion of him on the gaaboard.  ::)

I don't like the guy - a lot of people agree with me.  You like him - a lot of people share your opinion also.  Whereas I couldn't give a flying fcuk what you think of him it seems that knickers get seriously knotted when someone presents a bad opinion of him.  Why do you care so much?

PS. Is there a minimum age for being allowed to dislike someone because they are behaving like a t**t?

Smiley face means I'm taking the piss (shakes head)

You are basing your hatred on things he has said in interviews (being honest) and a strop in a tournament, is that it? Oh breaking up with a girl..... WTF !! give me some real reasons please. As for caring I couldn't careless, if he was in the same pub I wouldn't be over annoying him either, he's a fantastic golfer and he's from here. I'm just confused on your daft reasons on not liking someone.

Usually Irish sport fans are supporting sportmen from all over the world, it's nice to have a former No. 1 living on these shores.

I'd say overall there are more people liking him than not liking him. Again I await the sports stars from Ireland you like that are squeaky clean

Smiley face means you couldn't answer the question so tried to bluff it off!

Also, I EXPLICITLY stated that I didn't hate him, I just don't like him and I've told you why.

Just let it go man, life's too short!

Yes it is, so lighten up ;)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Sidney on May 23, 2014, 01:52:10 PM
How are the Irish players doing at Wentworth?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: screenexile on May 23, 2014, 01:58:43 PM
Lowry -8 2nd
McIlroy -5 T5th
Harrington +1 T60th
Thornton +1 T60th
Hoey +1 T60th
McGrane +2 T73
McGinley +4 T101st
Clarke +4 T101st
Lawrie +7 T124th
Mooney +10 T140th
Maybin +11 T142nd
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Sidney on May 23, 2014, 02:12:07 PM
Lowry -8 2nd
Harrington +1 T60th
Thornton +1 T60th
Hoey +1 T60th
McGrane +2 T73
McGinley +4 T101st
Clarke +4 T101st
Lawrie +7 T124th
Mooney +10 T140th
Maybin +11 T142nd
Disappointing to see only one of them under par.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 23, 2014, 02:30:58 PM
Lowry -8 2nd
McIlroy -5 T5th
Harrington +1 T60th
Thornton +1 T60th
Hoey +1 T60th
McGrane +2 T73
McGinley +4 T101st
Clarke +4 T101st
Lawrie +7 T124th
Mooney +10 T140th
Maybin +11 T142nd

Fell for that old chestnut, Surprised at you Screen.

Sidney has come back, must have been celebrating Liverpools big win this year...
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: thebigfella on May 23, 2014, 02:32:26 PM
Lowry -8 2nd
Harrington +1 T60th
Thornton +1 T60th
Hoey +1 T60th
McGrane +2 T73
McGinley +4 T101st
Clarke +4 T101st
Lawrie +7 T124th
Mooney +10 T140th
Maybin +11 T142nd
Disappointing to see only one of them under par.

In fairness you could have deleted out the rest of the northern players too
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: EC Unique on May 24, 2014, 07:24:25 AM
The only thing that is scummier than British loyalists is Irish partitionists. The great thing is that we are defeating both.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on May 24, 2014, 07:28:47 AM
Well played Sidney ;D
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Kidder81 on May 24, 2014, 08:00:24 AM
The only thing that is scummier than British loyalists is Irish partitionists. The great thing is that we are defeating both.

Wha'?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 25, 2014, 04:28:46 PM
Looks like being single might suit Rory, fair play to him today, good nerve.
Nice wedge for Lowry, €500k+
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 05:00:32 PM
Well played Sidney ;D

Rory must have used that quote lol.

Well done to Rory, best Northern Irish player today, and leading into a Major isn't too bad form to have
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: 5 Sams on May 25, 2014, 05:08:35 PM
Well played Sidney ;D

Rory must have used that quote lol.

Well done to Rory, best Northern Irish player today, and leading into a Major isn't too bad form to have

Good news for the bookies. Every eejit  in the land will be backing him now.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on May 25, 2014, 05:10:33 PM
Brilliant by Rory today and I'm really pleased for him.

The trophy was presented by Kirsty Gallacher and I think she sensed Rory's mood. He was very, very subdued and I half expected him to pay tribute to Caroline!

Anyway it was nice of Kirsty to congratulate Rory on being the first Irishman to win the competition in 50 years.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 05:11:34 PM
Well played Sidney ;D

Rory must have used that quote lol.

Well done to Rory, best Northern Irish player today, and leading into a Major isn't too bad form to have

Good news for the bookies. Every eejit  in the land will be backing him now.

He'd be a better bet than Lowry in fairness
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Kidder81 on May 25, 2014, 05:26:31 PM
He broke up with his girlfriend, nobody died for christs sake.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 05:30:48 PM
He broke up with his girlfriend, nobody died for christs sake.

If you think that because he gives a honest interview, fall out with a girl, throws a strop or had a twitter arguement with someone is the reason why people hate him, then think again

He seems to have his own view on things and fair fecks to him, in life we won't have everyone on your side........
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hardy on May 25, 2014, 06:08:56 PM
Brilliant by Rory today and I'm really pleased for him.

The trophy was presented by Kirsty Gallacher and I think she sensed Rory's mood. He was very, very subdued and I half expected him to pay tribute to Caroline!

Anyway it was nice of Kirsty to congratulate Rory on being the first Irishman to win the competition in 50 years.

When she said that I googled and I can't find any previous Irish winner. And I'm not using the Sidney criterion.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on May 25, 2014, 06:13:46 PM
Brilliant by Rory today and I'm really pleased for him.

The trophy was presented by Kirsty Gallacher and I think she sensed Rory's mood. He was very, very subdued and I half expected him to pay tribute to Caroline!

Anyway it was nice of Kirsty to congratulate Rory on being the first Irishman to win the competition in 50 years.

When she said that I googled and I can't find any previous Irish winner. And I'm not using the Sidney criterion.

Where is the sentence police when you need them!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hardy on May 25, 2014, 06:38:31 PM
Where ARE ...

The ban on starting sentences with 'and' is nonsense.

So who was that Irish winner in 1964?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 25, 2014, 06:47:26 PM
Where ARE ...

The ban on starting sentences with 'and' is nonsense.

So who was that Irish winner in 1964?
Wiki has Harry Bradshaw of Wicklow as winner in 1958.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PGA_Close_Championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PGA_Close_Championship)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hardy on May 25, 2014, 07:05:53 PM
Missed that.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on May 25, 2014, 07:55:47 PM
Missed that.

Yes you did. You also missed a couple of punctuation marks which would have helped immensely, don't you think?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: seafoid on May 25, 2014, 08:04:03 PM
Missed that.

Yes you did. You also missed a couple of punctuation marks which would have helped immensely, don't you think?
He should of seen them. You seen them .
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hardy on May 25, 2014, 08:15:43 PM
Missed that.

Yes you did. You also missed a couple of punctuation marks which would have helped immensely, don't you think?

No.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Sidney on May 25, 2014, 08:18:15 PM
Disappointing to see that Ireland's Shane Lowry missed out today. Harry Bradshaw in 1958 still the last Irish winner of this tournament. The famine goes on.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 08:37:10 PM
Disappointing to see that Ireland's Shane Lowry missed out today. Harry Bradshaw in 1958 still the last Irish winner of this tournament. The famine goes on.

Yep, seems us Norn Iron boys have put some manners on the free staters yet again  :P
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on May 25, 2014, 08:49:24 PM
Disappointing to see that Ireland's Shane Lowry missed out today. Harry Bradshaw in 1958 still the last Irish winner of this tournament. The famine goes on.

Yeah, sure.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: All of a Sludden on May 25, 2014, 10:04:24 PM
Disappointing to see that Ireland's Shane Lowry missed out today. Harry Bradshaw in 1958 still the last Irish winner of this tournament. The famine goes on.

Yeah, sure.

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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 10:07:23 PM
Disappointing to see that Ireland's Shane Lowry missed out today. Harry Bradshaw in 1958 still the last Irish winner of this tournament. The famine goes on.

Yeah, sure.

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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Saffrongael on May 25, 2014, 10:13:00 PM
Mmm draped in one and walking behind one

Any of him throwing the tri colour to the ground that time ?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Sidney on May 25, 2014, 10:14:27 PM
Pubehead made sure to throw the parsley in the bin first before taking this soup.

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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2014, 10:18:14 PM
Mmm draped in one and walking behind one

Any of him throwing the tri colour to the ground that time ?

I'm sure if you search hard enough you'll find one, but that's what it really comes down to doesn't it? tribal/them and us/green/orange/flegs. How fecking sad.

Pubehead made sure to throw the parsley in the bin first before taking this soup.

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You free staters dumped us years ago Sydney  ;D

Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Capt Pat on May 26, 2014, 12:14:35 AM
Lowry will be crying into his soup with only a 527,000 pounds loser prize to console himself with.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on May 28, 2014, 02:58:44 PM
I think Rory's ex has made her views on his nationality known
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http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/caroline-wozniacki-no-luck-of-the-irish-in-french-open-following-rory-mcilroy-split-30309877.html
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2014, 03:19:54 PM
Women are far too emotional.  ::)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on May 28, 2014, 03:21:41 PM
I think Rory's ex has made her views on his nationality known
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Ivory Coast?
Or maybe she is after Lowry now and dressed in the Biffo colours.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 28, 2014, 03:24:01 PM
Well if she fell for Rory ........
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: heganboy on May 29, 2014, 08:38:20 PM
the youngster is having a pretty solid day at the office... 7 under after 11 holes day1
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: BarryBreensBandage on May 29, 2014, 08:41:08 PM
the youngster is having a pretty solid day at the office... 7 under after 11 holes day1

Make that -8 - some viewing
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: glens abu on May 29, 2014, 09:01:35 PM
Oooops
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: glens abu on May 29, 2014, 09:17:14 PM
Putter on fire
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on May 29, 2014, 09:31:57 PM
That's the answer - stay away from the birds Rory

(Hope his knee is okay)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 29, 2014, 09:33:01 PM
That's the answer - stay away from the birds Rory

(Hope his knee is okay)

That might improve your golf ;)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on May 29, 2014, 10:03:33 PM
By the way, isnt it lovely the way that Faldo makes the other American golf commentators call him "Sir Nick"?

I've another word for him, which ryhmes with stunt.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on May 30, 2014, 12:21:55 PM
This is the only time Rory will get the legover for a while...

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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 30, 2014, 02:16:24 PM
Rory +6 on the day after 7 holes - just went double bogey, bogey, quad bogey in last 3 holes
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Walter Cronc on May 30, 2014, 02:17:27 PM
Maybe the knee is worse than he first thought!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on May 30, 2014, 02:24:46 PM
Rory +6 on the day after 7 holes - just went double bogey, bogey, quad bogey in last 3 holes
Poor day. He should get himself a girlfriend.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Link on May 30, 2014, 02:27:02 PM
Rory +6 on the day after 7 holes - just went double bogey, bogey, quad bogey in last 3 holes

No he didn't.

bogey,par,birdie,double,double,double,par
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 30, 2014, 02:31:00 PM
My mistake - that leaderboard on the PGA site is shite

Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2014, 02:31:20 PM
Rory +6 on the day after 7 holes - just went double bogey, bogey, quad bogey in last 3 holes
Poor day. He should get himself a girlfriend.

Doesn't take long for the haters lol
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Sidney on May 30, 2014, 02:37:59 PM
Rory +6 on the day after 7 holes - just went double bogey, bogey, quad bogey in last 3 holes
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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 30, 2014, 03:00:38 PM
Rory +6 on the day after 7 holes - just went double bogey, bogey, quad bogey in last 3 holes
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Schools out ;)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Geoff Tipps on May 30, 2014, 03:46:24 PM
My mistake - that leaderboard on the PGA site is shite

They seem to have updated that site recently and it's shocking.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Minder on May 30, 2014, 04:09:43 PM
My mistake - that leaderboard on the PGA site is shite

They seem to have updated that site recently and it's shocking.

It's a joke for how big an organisation the PGA is.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: All of a Sludden on June 18, 2014, 11:58:44 AM
Rory McIlroy has announced he intends playing for Ireland at the Olympics Games in Rio in 2016.
McIlroy, 25, from Northern Ireland, was eligible to play for Great Britain or Ireland and his choice has been the subject of ongoing speculation.
At one stage, McIlroy said he might not participate to avoid offending anyone.
"I have been thinking about the decision a lot and remembered all the times I represented Ireland as an amateur," he said on Wednesday.
McIlroy revealed his decision on the even of the Irish Open which is being played at Fota Island in County Cork.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 18, 2014, 12:08:46 PM
Rory McIlroy has announced he intends playing for Ireland at the Olympics Games in Rio in 2016.
McIlroy, 25, from Northern Ireland, was eligible to play for Great Britain or Ireland and his choice has been the subject of ongoing speculation.
At one stage, McIlroy said he might not participate to avoid offending anyone.
"I have been thinking about the decision a lot and remembered all the times I represented Ireland as an amateur," he said on Wednesday.
McIlroy revealed his decision on the even of the Irish Open which is being played at Fota Island in County Cork.

Good stuff,  will fit in nicely with the ceremonial handing back of the North after the Easter Rising 100 years anniversary!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AZOffaly on June 18, 2014, 12:09:07 PM
Damned inconsiderate of him. A load of lads are going to have to back peddle now.

His clubs must have been held hostage, is that what that was about?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AQMP on June 18, 2014, 12:13:36 PM
Rory McIlroy has announced he intends playing for Ireland at the Olympics Games in Rio in 2016.
McIlroy, 25, from Northern Ireland, was eligible to play for Great Britain or Ireland and his choice has been the subject of ongoing speculation.
At one stage, McIlroy said he might not participate to avoid offending anyone.
"I have been thinking about the decision a lot and remembered all the times I represented Ireland as an amateur," he said on Wednesday.
McIlroy revealed his decision on the even of the Irish Open which is being played at Fota Island in County Cork.

Brits representing Ireland...what next!?!  How will this go down in Laois??
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Walter Cronc on June 18, 2014, 12:14:45 PM
Where's all the haters??
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: All of a Sludden on June 18, 2014, 12:16:35 PM
Where's all the haters??

East Belfast?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: J OGorman on June 18, 2014, 12:21:12 PM
Damned inconsiderate of him. A load of lads are going to have to back peddle now.

His clubs must have been held hostage, is that what that was about?

But the haters have gotta hate.

I'd have been very surprised if he hadn't have pulled on the green jersey
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AQMP on June 18, 2014, 12:25:54 PM
Stephen Watson and the BBC NI team receiving counselling.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: screenexile on June 18, 2014, 12:34:09 PM
Always liked him... good down to earth Irishman!!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on June 18, 2014, 12:43:58 PM
Always liked him... good down to earth Irishman!!
+1
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on June 18, 2014, 12:46:18 PM
Stephen Watson and the BBC NI team receiving counselling.

LOL.

I see his clubs turned up. There were some hilarious comments from people 'following' him. Rory said he has just been reunited with his clubs and the comments were

- it will hardly matter
- you should reunite with Wozniacki
- do you wanna play in our 5-a-side this weekend?

and lastly

- w**ker

There were lots of encouraging comments too. But I cannot understand why someone follows a person on FB/Twitter then calls the person a w**ker.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on June 18, 2014, 12:53:21 PM
This is why

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Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Walter Cronc on June 18, 2014, 01:00:39 PM
Will there be a fleg protest??
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AQMP on June 18, 2014, 01:04:17 PM
Will there be a fleg protest??

Yet another example of chip, chip, chipping away at our Britishness.  T'would put the tin hat on it if McDowell was selected as well!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on June 18, 2014, 01:07:29 PM
Will there be a fleg protest??

Yet another example of chip, chip, chipping away at our Britishness.  T'would put the tin hat on it if McDowell was selected as well!

Gmac has already said he will be playing for Ireland.
Don't think he has a choice now anyway after representing us in a World Golf tournament lately.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: muppet on June 18, 2014, 01:08:58 PM
Will there be a fleg protest??

Yet another example of chip, chip, chipping away at our Britishness.  T'would put the tin hat on it if McDowell was selected as well!

I think it would put only the tin hat on it if Woolie Frazer carried the tricolour at the opening ceremony.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2014, 01:10:53 PM
Will there be a fleg protest??

Yet another example of chip, chip, chipping away at our Britishness.  T'would put the tin hat on it if McDowell was selected as well!

Gmac has already said he will be playing for Ireland.
Don't think he has a choice now anyway after representing us in a World Golf tournament lately.

Was going to say it must be strange having Brits play for 'us' but with the amount of players Big Jack brought in it's more the norm......
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Ulick on June 18, 2014, 01:19:22 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf_at_the_Summer_Olympics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf_at_the_Summer_Olympics)
The International Golf Federation (IGF) has proposed 72-hole stroke play tournaments (with a 3-hole playoff in the event of a tie) for both men's and women's events in 2016. Eligibility would be determined by IGF rankings. The top 15 players would be eligible (regardless of country) and then the next 45 players representing countries that do not already have two representatives.

So am I right in thinking each country two players unless they have more than that in the top 15? On current rankings that leaves McDowell, Lowry and Harrington fighting it out for one spot.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: sheamy on June 18, 2014, 01:21:32 PM
Ruairi Mac giolla Ruaidh
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AZOffaly on June 18, 2014, 01:27:56 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf_at_the_Summer_Olympics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf_at_the_Summer_Olympics)
The International Golf Federation (IGF) has proposed 72-hole stroke play tournaments (with a 3-hole playoff in the event of a tie) for both men's and women's events in 2016. Eligibility would be determined by IGF rankings. The top 15 players would be eligible (regardless of country) and then the next 45 players representing countries that do not already have two representatives.

So am I right in thinking each country two players unless they have more than that in the top 15? On current rankings that leaves McDowell, Lowry and Harrington fighting it out for one spot.

Sounds right, I presume it's not a team event? So it's top 15 in the world regardless of country, which will probably mean USA will be over represented. The rest of the countries send a two man team made of their top 15 rep, if they have one, plus whomever else they like.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: deiseach on June 18, 2014, 01:29:01 PM
I'm unreasonably pleased by this news. Although maybe the 'reason' is the thought of the reaction of themmuns...
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Franko on June 18, 2014, 01:29:19 PM
Always said he was a great fella.  ::)

All the same, it has to be a huge kick in the gonads to his principal cheerleader Watson, which is nice.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2014, 01:33:17 PM
Always said he was a great fella.  ::)

All the same, it has to be a huge kick in the gonads to his principal cheerleader Watson, which is nice.

I've no doubt that Watson will have his famed Norn Iron flag at the ready to piss everyone off.

If Ireland want a chance to win gold at the Olympics then you must have your best players
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AQMP on June 18, 2014, 01:53:39 PM
I'm unreasonably pleased by this news. Although maybe the 'reason' is the thought of the reaction of themmuns...

deiseach, you're spending too much time on this board...you could almost be a Nordie!!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: deiseach on June 18, 2014, 01:59:55 PM
I'm unreasonably pleased by this news. Although maybe the 'reason' is the thought of the reaction of themmuns...

deiseach, you're spending too much time on this board...you could almost be a Nordie!!

I spent too much time on OWC back in the day before it became an enclosed order.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: dec on June 18, 2014, 02:09:10 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf_at_the_Summer_Olympics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf_at_the_Summer_Olympics)
The International Golf Federation (IGF) has proposed 72-hole stroke play tournaments (with a 3-hole playoff in the event of a tie) for both men's and women's events in 2016. Eligibility would be determined by IGF rankings. The top 15 players would be eligible (regardless of country) and then the next 45 players representing countries that do not already have two representatives.

So am I right in thinking each country two players unless they have more than that in the top 15? On current rankings that leaves McDowell, Lowry and Harrington fighting it out for one spot.

That is why someone suggested that McIlroy and McDowell represent Britain and allow Lowry and Harrington to represent Ireland thereby getting four Irishmen into the Olympics.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: dec on June 18, 2014, 02:10:13 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf_at_the_Summer_Olympics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf_at_the_Summer_Olympics)
The International Golf Federation (IGF) has proposed 72-hole stroke play tournaments (with a 3-hole playoff in the event of a tie) for both men's and women's events in 2016. Eligibility would be determined by IGF rankings. The top 15 players would be eligible (regardless of country) and then the next 45 players representing countries that do not already have two representatives.

So am I right in thinking each country two players unless they have more than that in the top 15? On current rankings that leaves McDowell, Lowry and Harrington fighting it out for one spot.

Are there any Irish women golfers that have a chance to make the Olympics?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AZOffaly on June 18, 2014, 02:10:43 PM
I'm sure Luke Donald, Ian Pulter, Lee Westwood and all the other Scots and Welsh were delighted with that idea :)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: muppet on June 18, 2014, 02:41:27 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf_at_the_Summer_Olympics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf_at_the_Summer_Olympics)
The International Golf Federation (IGF) has proposed 72-hole stroke play tournaments (with a 3-hole playoff in the event of a tie) for both men's and women's events in 2016. Eligibility would be determined by IGF rankings. The top 15 players would be eligible (regardless of country) and then the next 45 players representing countries that do not already have two representatives.

So am I right in thinking each country two players unless they have more than that in the top 15? On current rankings that leaves McDowell, Lowry and Harrington fighting it out for one spot.

That is why someone suggested that McIlroy and McDowell represent Britain and allow Lowry and Harrington to represent Ireland thereby getting four Irishmen into the Olympics.

That would have been Paddy Harrington: http://www.irishcentral.com/sports/sports-digest-padraig-harrington-says-rory-mcilroy-should-be-british-for-2016-olympics-139008729-237430221.html (http://www.irishcentral.com/sports/sports-digest-padraig-harrington-says-rory-mcilroy-should-be-british-for-2016-olympics-139008729-237430221.html)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on June 18, 2014, 02:46:19 PM
Ruairi Mac giolla Ruaidh

Well that's a mouthful (according to Caroline)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: muppet on June 18, 2014, 02:53:29 PM
Ruairi Mac giolla Ruaidh

Well that's a mouthful (according to Caroline)

That's out of bounds Orior!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2014, 03:12:43 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf_at_the_Summer_Olympics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf_at_the_Summer_Olympics)
The International Golf Federation (IGF) has proposed 72-hole stroke play tournaments (with a 3-hole playoff in the event of a tie) for both men's and women's events in 2016. Eligibility would be determined by IGF rankings. The top 15 players would be eligible (regardless of country) and then the next 45 players representing countries that do not already have two representatives.

So am I right in thinking each country two players unless they have more than that in the top 15? On current rankings that leaves McDowell, Lowry and Harrington fighting it out for one spot.

That is why someone suggested that McIlroy and McDowell represent Britain and allow Lowry and Harrington to represent Ireland thereby getting four Irishmen into the Olympics.

Dammed if he did and dammed if he don't!!!  ;D 
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AZOffaly on June 18, 2014, 03:26:14 PM
As muppet said, that was Harrington who suggested that. Self preservation and all that. Actually Harrington's comments in that article probably highlight the difference between individual and team sports perfectly.

Quote
"Harrington said, “The man in the street is not looking at the logic behind the decision, he is looking at the emotions behind the decision. Emotions should be taken out of it.

“Why keep asking Rory to make an emotional decision? Rory can get away from the emotional decision by saying, ‘Look, I am going to do what is logical and best for golf on this island.’

“What’s logical and best for golf on this island, as things stand today, is for the two boys to declare for Great Britain and for four from the island of Ireland to play in the Olympics.

“It’s simple and straightforward. We can have a chance of four people winning at the Olympics and it doesn’t matter where they are from."

He sees it as maximising the odds of one of our golfers winning an international event, regardless of who they represent. It's an individual honour and we should maximise the odds of one of us being successful, basically.

However, as someone involved in team sports more, the crest on your chest is more important than the name on your bag in my opinion. If a Team GB golfer wins a medal, it's not just for himself, it's for the team. And whether it bothers you or not is a moot point, but it's not true to say it doesn't matter where they are from in that context.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: SLIGONIAN on June 18, 2014, 03:45:39 PM
As muppet said, that was Harrington who suggested that. Self preservation and all that. Actually Harrington's comments in that article probably highlight the difference between individual and team sports perfectly.

Quote
"Harrington said, “The man in the street is not looking at the logic behind the decision, he is looking at the emotions behind the decision. Emotions should be taken out of it.

“Why keep asking Rory to make an emotional decision? Rory can get away from the emotional decision by saying, ‘Look, I am going to do what is logical and best for golf on this island.’

“What’s logical and best for golf on this island, as things stand today, is for the two boys to declare for Great Britain and for four from the island of Ireland to play in the Olympics.

“It’s simple and straightforward. We can have a chance of four people winning at the Olympics and it doesn’t matter where they are from."

He sees it as maximising the odds of one of our golfers winning an international event, regardless of who they represent. It's an individual honour and we should maximise the odds of one of us being successful, basically.

However, as someone involved in team sports more, the crest on your chest is more important than the name on your bag in my opinion. If a Team GB golfer wins a medal, it's not just for himself, it's for the team. And whether it bothers you or not is a moot point, but it's not true to say it doesn't matter where they are from in that context.
That is an awfully self serving attitude from harrington, totally disagree with him and agree with az, mcilroy what took you so long, just never taken to mcilroy at all and this little to appease me not that he cares, but in saying that i will support him wearing Irish jersey in the olympics for sure. good chance of medal now, lets hope brazil can the thing ready in time
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: deiseach on June 18, 2014, 03:50:11 PM
What's the equivalent of 'one idiot with a 20p piece' in this mobile age? Rory McIlroy is about to find out.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on June 18, 2014, 03:50:49 PM
Ruairi Mac giolla Ruaidh

Well that's a mouthful (according to Caroline)

That's out of bounds Orior!

Indeed - it's a two shot penalty for playing with someone else's ball.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: deiseach on June 18, 2014, 04:06:47 PM
Ruairi Mac giolla Ruaidh

Well that's a mouthful (according to Caroline)

That's out of bounds Orior!

Indeed - it's a two shot penalty for playing with someone else's ball.

If you carry on and play the next hole, you're disqualified.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: the Deel Rover on June 18, 2014, 04:48:57 PM
Paddy Barnes isn't too excited about the announcement judging by his twitter page .
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Kidder81 on June 18, 2014, 04:51:07 PM
Paddy Barnes isn't too excited about the announcement judging by his twitter page .

What did he say Deel ?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: muppet on June 18, 2014, 04:59:17 PM
Paddy Barnes @paddyb_ireland  ·  3h

The reason I don't like Mcilroy representing Ireland at the Olympics is because he doubted going for Ireland, you should be proud to!

Paddy Barnes @paddyb_ireland  ·  5h

Ireland's golf team should be- Shane Lowry, Graham McDowell and Padraig Harrington!


Paddy Barnes @paddyb_ireland  ·  5h
2 years to the Olympics and already we know who the Flag Bearer is......Rory Mcilroy....


How does Paddy know that McIlroy isn't proud to represent Ireland?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Capt Pat on June 18, 2014, 06:38:31 PM
All this hype about one golfer in a tournament. Golf is unpredictable and McIlroy probably won't even get a medal.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: thejuice on June 18, 2014, 07:40:45 PM
I am very supportive of Irish sports people in nearly all instances but Paddy Barnes really tests your patience.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 18, 2014, 08:36:16 PM
Not hard to tell what the next topic on The Nolan Show will be.

Loyalists will be ordering afro wigs these evening for this years effigy.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on June 18, 2014, 08:51:38 PM
Ruairi Mac giolla Ruaidh

Well that's a mouthful (according to Caroline)

That's out of bounds Orior!

Indeed - it's a two shot penalty for playing with someone else's ball.

Indeed it is, as well as automatic loss of hole in match play.  :( Recently lived this very f-ing rule.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AZOffaly on June 18, 2014, 08:55:59 PM
Em. Puck I think you need to read back for context :)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on June 18, 2014, 09:01:02 PM
I get the context,  But Orior is right also on the penalty of playing with someone else's ball(s)

I dont think Ruairi Mac giolla Ruaidh will be coming off the tongue of Caroline anytime soon  :)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2014, 09:13:24 PM
Paddy Barnes @paddyb_ireland  ·  3h

The reason I don't like Mcilroy representing Ireland at the Olympics is because he doubted going for Ireland, you should be proud to!

Paddy Barnes @paddyb_ireland  ·  5h

Ireland's golf team should be- Shane Lowry, Graham McDowell and Padraig Harrington!


Paddy Barnes @paddyb_ireland  ·  5h
2 years to the Olympics and already we know who the Flag Bearer is......Rory Mcilroy....


How does Paddy know that McIlroy isn't proud to represent Ireland?

He must get someone to write his tweets, though in fairness it's a lot better reading his thoughts than hearing him, here bes me wha!!!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2014, 11:01:30 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=820221037997119&fref=nf
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hardy on June 18, 2014, 11:03:37 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=820221037997119&fref=nf

Here we go again. Antrim or Tipperary?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2014, 11:06:22 PM
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=820221037997119&fref=nf

Here we go again. Antrim or Tipperary?

Cavan with a strike like that
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on June 18, 2014, 11:11:40 PM
Donal Og and Nike launch hurleys in USA tomorrow with McIlroy leading marketing.

Seriously rory 1st stated his confusion who to play for when he was dating his childhood sweetheart who happened to be ulster protestant, he was also very young. I know he's received a lot if hate but I think we can let this slide. As Darren Clarke said " he didnt realise he  was Irish until he travelled the world.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on June 18, 2014, 11:13:16 PM
Rory is still eligible for Down and would be associated with the St Pauls club in Holywood
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on June 18, 2014, 11:14:37 PM
Donal Og and Nike launch hurleys in USA tomorrow with McIlroy leading marketing.

Seriously rory 1st stated his confusion who to play for when he was dating his childhood sweetheart who happened to be ulster protestant, he was also very young. I know he's received a lot if hate but I think we can let this slide. As Darren Clarke said "he didnt realise he  was Irish until he travelled the world."

Brilliant
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 18, 2014, 11:17:17 PM
Rory is still eligible for Down and would be associated with the St Pauls club in Holywood

He'd have to play for Bredagh as St Pauls don't hurl (I think)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Ulick on June 19, 2014, 06:41:08 AM
Rory is still eligible for Down and would be associated with the St Pauls club in Holywood

Or his mother's club, St Paul's in Lurgan.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: haranguerer on June 19, 2014, 07:33:11 AM
I think its most likely he always wanted to represent Ireland, and was always going to do so, but realised the need of masking that in some way, so as not to get the death threats from loyalists say Eddie Irvine did for F1 playing Amhran na Bhfiann on that occasion
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Kidder81 on June 19, 2014, 07:45:52 AM
Lads McIlroy has as much interest in GAA as Peter Robinson. Deal with it.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: johnneycool on June 19, 2014, 07:50:47 AM
Rory is still eligible for Down and would be associated with the St Pauls club in Holywood

He'd have to play for Bredagh as St Pauls don't hurl (I think)

They do at underage.

Rorys grip was OK, not cack handed as he said, its the feckin golfers who grip cack handed.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on June 19, 2014, 10:19:26 AM
Lads McIlroy has as much interest in GAA as Peter Robinson. Deal with it.

There is no harm in surmising
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2014, 11:23:55 AM
Lads McIlroy has as much interest in GAA as Peter Robinson. Deal with it.

There is no harm in surmising

There are thousands of west Belfast lads not interested in Gaa either, it's not a hanging offence as far as i'm aware
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on June 19, 2014, 12:02:31 PM
Let's start a rumour.

Pranksters working for Dublin Aiport took hostage of his clubs until Rory signed up to play for Ireland.

By the looks of todays score, they must have substituted a set of clubs belonging to a 28 handicapper.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stew on June 19, 2014, 01:08:53 PM
The man has declared for Ireland, how the fcuk can anyone have a problem with that!

He has declared for us, get behind the man and cheer him on like we did  Clarke and Harrington et al.

The man deserves credit and shocked a fair few of you who are now scurrying like rats at the news, you thought he was going to declare for the brits did you not???

Hell slap it up ye! :)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on June 19, 2014, 05:50:30 PM
Lads McIlroy has as much interest in GAA as Peter Robinson. Deal with it.

There is no harm in surmising

There are thousands of west Belfast lads not interested in Gaa either, it's not a hanging offence as far as i'm aware

well that's true,  and yet they are putting the stadium there.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 19, 2014, 06:27:12 PM
Lads McIlroy has as much interest in GAA as Peter Robinson. Deal with it.

There is no harm in surmising

There are thousands of west Belfast lads not interested in Gaa either, it's not a hanging offence as far as i'm aware

well that's true,  and yet they are putting the stadium there.

Its for all the soccer games and concerts, and a we bit of GAA
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AQMP on June 19, 2014, 06:29:26 PM
The man has declared for Ireland, how the fcuk can anyone have a problem with that!

He has declared for us, get behind the man and cheer him on like we did  Clarke and Harrington et al.

The man deserves credit and shocked a fair few of you who are now scurrying like rats at the news, you thought he was going to declare for the brits did you not???

Hell slap it up ye! :)

You haven't lived in the North for a while, stew??
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on June 20, 2014, 11:57:39 AM
This vhanges nothing he's still a tool, imo. Watson must be reaching for the razor blades though!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Zip Code on June 20, 2014, 11:58:59 AM
This vhanges nothing he's still a tool, imo. Watson must be reaching for the razor blades though!

If only he would - a most hateful ****.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: OakleafCounty on June 20, 2014, 12:31:45 PM
This vhanges nothing he's still a tool, imo. Watson must be reaching for the razor blades though!

If only he would - a most hateful ****.

What's he ever done to warrent that type of criticism?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Minder on June 22, 2014, 08:17:02 AM
McIlroy is clear but conflict remains

Sunday Times 21 June 2014 | Denis Walsh



Ulsterman’s decision to play for Ireland in Rio was his easier option

H ALF way through Rory McIlroy’s press conference on Wednesday there was a round of applause. After a series of soft ball questions about his missing golf clubs and his desire to win the Irish Open question number 10 was suddenly about the Olympics. The question seemed to be informed by a tip-off, the answer rehearsed. Only the applause was spontaneous.

McIlroy pledged allegiance to the line of least resistance. As an amateur Ireland had been the team he represented. In some respects he was a product of the Golfing Union of Ireland in so much as genius can be produced by an outside agency. He spoke warmly of attending international squad sessions as a boy and continued with a host of predictable lines in support of his new position.

But if it is so simple now why has this question been so complicated all along? This declaration and the rationale that underpinned it had been available to him since the question was first asked. Yet, he had never taken refuge in that position until now.

The issue of McIlroy’s identity had preceded the Olympic question and in the beginning we made some lazy, out-dated assumptions. Given that his parents were Catholics, though not active in the faith, and given that there was a rich GAA tradition on his mother’s side and that he attended a Catholic primary school, the common belief was that McIlroy leaned towards Dublin rather than London.

Sports Illustrated, though, put it best in a major feature five years ago when they had extensive access to McIlroy and his Dad. “In raising Rory, Rosie and Gerry [his parents] made a break from the Northern Ireland of their youth when class and religion and accent and family history predicted your life with ruthless accuracy.” Naturally, McIlroy knew his identity. In an interview with Golf Digest Ireland, in 2006, just before he turned professional, McIlroy was plain about it: “I would identify myself as British,” he said. “I’m from Northern Ireland, so I’m a British citizen and I’ve got a British passport.”

Three years later, when golf was formally re-admitted to the Olympics, McIlroy was asked for his reaction and said that he would represent “Team GB.” Without assessing the possible outcome of his response or trying to fudge his position McIlroy gave an honest answer.

In another interview two years later he said that he “always felt more of a connection with the UK than with Ireland.” Those comments created such a fuss that he issued a conciliatory statement on his website.

But the fact remained that McIlroy had already said what he felt and said what he had meant to say. On Wednesday he said something that seemed to be materially different. “Just weighing up everything and thinking back about the times that I played for Ireland and won the European Team championship with Ireland, won a lot of great amateur titles representing Ireland, I just thought, why change that? Basically, it’s just a continuation of what I’ve always done.”

However, he didn’t say that he now felt more Irish than British. He said he was happy to play for Ireland in large part because he had always played for Ireland in the past.

He quoted the examples of rugby, hockey and cricket which are governed by all-Ireland bodies and field international teams drawn from both sides of the border. But those examples only serve to illustrate other entanglements in cricket, hockey and soccer.

Pat Hickey, president of the Olympic Council of Ireland, indicated a couple of years ago that McIlroy would be one of the favourites to carry the Irish flag into the Olympic stadium in Rio if he declared for Ireland. That would be a mistake. The Tricolour is not his flag. He has made that clear.

It’s settled now. McIlroy has declared his position. Clearly, he was conflicted. Understood. In our response, though, we’re entitled to be conflicted too.

Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 22, 2014, 09:25:31 AM
It wasn't Wayne McCullough's flag either, Shankill road man who walked in with the tricoulour, waving it like a true republican. Barry McGuigan fought for the British Championship and ended up getting death threats from republicans!!. Too many people get hung up on flags/religion.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Zip Code on June 23, 2014, 10:57:17 AM
It wasn't Wayne McCullough's flag either, Shankill road man who walked in with the tricoulour, waving it like a true republican. Barry McGuigan fought for the British Championship and ended up getting death threats from republicans!!. Too many people get hung up on flags/religion.

I'd say that figure would be 4 odd billion!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: haranguerer on June 23, 2014, 11:04:09 AM
It wasn't Wayne McCullough's flag either, Shankill road man who walked in with the tricoulour, waving it like a true republican. Barry McGuigan fought for the British Championship and ended up getting death threats from republicans!!. Too many people get hung up on flags/religion.

I'd say that figure would be 4 odd billion!

Touche
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on June 23, 2014, 02:25:08 PM
McIlroy is clear but conflict remains

The issue of McIlroy’s identity had preceded the Olympic question and in the beginning we made some lazy, out-dated assumptions. Given that his parents were Catholics, though not active in the faith, and given that there was a rich GAA tradition on his mother’s side and that he attended a Catholic primary school, the common belief was that McIlroy leaned towards Dublin rather than London.


Given the above, why has Rory never acknowledged that tradition? Has he ever attended a Gaa match? Why has he pumped a lot of his earnings into Ulster Rugby? Has he ever donated to St Pauls in Holywood?

To those who are thinking of typing "so what?" may I remind you that this is an open discussion board so why should I not ask these questions?

Personally, I think when you are brought up in Holywood, which treasures it's English style maypole, and cricket team, and MOD / British Armay site, and which had its Catholic Church bombed during the troubles then I have to congratulate those that keep the gaelic tradition going.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hardy on June 23, 2014, 03:01:25 PM
Do you harangue every catholic who doesn't have an interest in Gaelic games? And what right have you ask what he does with his money? If there was a rich pigeon-fancying tradition on his mother's side, would you think he was somehow reprehensible if he was indifferent to pigeons himself?

Personally, I think when you are brought up in Holywood, which treasures it's English style maypole, and cricket team, and MOD / British Army site, and which had its Catholic Church bombed during the troubles (what has this got to do with the GAA?) then it's a noble undertaking to keep the gaelic tradition going. Personally, I also think it's crass to imply that anybody in Holywood who is interested in a different sport has some sort of case to answer. Or is it just famous people who should look lively and get interested in gaelic games?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 23, 2014, 03:09:21 PM
McIlroy is clear but conflict remains

The issue of McIlroy’s identity had preceded the Olympic question and in the beginning we made some lazy, out-dated assumptions. Given that his parents were Catholics, though not active in the faith, and given that there was a rich GAA tradition on his mother’s side and that he attended a Catholic primary school, the common belief was that McIlroy leaned towards Dublin rather than London.


Given the above, why has Rory never acknowledged that tradition? Has he ever attended a Gaa match? Why has he pumped a lot of his earnings into Ulster Rugby? Has he ever donated to St Pauls in Holywood?

To those who are thinking of typing "so what?" may I remind you that this is an open discussion board so why should I not ask these questions?

Personally, I think when you are brought up in Holywood, which treasures it's English style maypole, and cricket team, and MOD / British Armay site, and which had its Catholic Church bombed during the troubles then I have to congratulate those that keep the gaelic tradition going.

Surprised at this post from you Orior, I've said before, there are plenty of Westies (West Belfast) who have loads of money and don't give a stuff about Gaelic Games or anything else traditional. They are interested in lining their pockets and that's that, I hold no grudge against them for doing so
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Brick Tamlin on June 23, 2014, 03:11:49 PM
Its a Bit of an attack alright.
Journalists pretty much write whatever they like these days. Probably best to remember that McIlroy didn't write those words or say them himself.
Its a piece by a Journalist. As is most of the rhetoric written about him. Id doubt half the stuff written about him has any truth or meaning to it.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: cockahoop on June 23, 2014, 03:25:05 PM
McIlroy is clear but conflict remains

The issue of McIlroy’s identity had preceded the Olympic question and in the beginning we made some lazy, out-dated assumptions. Given that his parents were Catholics, though not active in the faith, and given that there was a rich GAA tradition on his mother’s side and that he attended a Catholic primary school, the common belief was that McIlroy leaned towards Dublin rather than London.


Given the above, why has Rory never acknowledged that tradition? Has he ever attended a Gaa match? Why has he pumped a lot of his earnings into Ulster Rugby? Has he ever donated to St Pauls in Holywood?

To those who are thinking of typing "so what?" may I remind you that this is an open discussion board so why should I not ask these questions?

Personally, I think when you are brought up in Holywood, which treasures it's English style maypole, and cricket team, and MOD / British Armay site, and which had its Catholic Church bombed during the troubles then I have to congratulate those that keep the gaelic tradition going.

yip,sat 2 rows in front of me in croke park when down played cork in the all ireland final a couple of years back
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: naka on June 23, 2014, 03:30:55 PM
McIlroy is clear but conflict remains

The issue of McIlroy’s identity had preceded the Olympic question and in the beginning we made some lazy, out-dated assumptions. Given that his parents were Catholics, though not active in the faith, and given that there was a rich GAA tradition on his mother’s side and that he attended a Catholic primary school, the common belief was that McIlroy leaned towards Dublin rather than London.



Given the above, why has Rory never acknowledged that tradition? Has he ever attended a Gaa match? Why has he pumped a lot of his earnings into Ulster Rugby? Has he ever donated to St Pauls in Holywood?

To those who are thinking of typing "so what?" may I remind you that this is an open discussion board so why should I not ask these questions?

Personally, I think when you are brought up in Holywood, which treasures it's English style maypole, and cricket team, and MOD / British Armay site, and which had its Catholic Church bombed during the troubles then I have to congratulate those that keep the gaelic tradition going.

yip,sat 2 rows in front of me in croke park when down played cork in the all ireland final a couple of years back


tut tut tut

where did he get his ticket etc etc etc
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: heganboy on June 23, 2014, 03:31:12 PM
why has Rory never acknowledged that tradition? Has he ever attended a Gaa match? Why has he pumped a lot of his earnings into Ulster Rugby? Has he ever donated to St Pauls in Holywood?

To those who are thinking of typing "so what?" may I remind you that this is an open discussion board so why should I not ask these questions?

Orior- I'm not really sure that I see your point, he is a huge Ulster Rugby fan and he wants to see "his" team win. Can you tell me one piece of upside for the kid to "acknowledge the tradition", what happened when he pucked a ball at the Irish open? It makes absolutely no sense for his family and friends that still live at home. He is out, and done and living in Florida, however his family and friends live and deal with the incessant commentary (including this board) which means that he can't get a single break no matter what he does. No win situation in being a young public figure from the wee 6...
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: deiseach on June 23, 2014, 03:39:55 PM
Its a Bit of an attack alright.
Journalists pretty much write whatever they like these days. Probably best to remember that McIlroy didn't write those words or say them himself.
Its a piece by a Journalist. As is most of the rhetoric written about him. Id doubt half the stuff written about him has any truth or meaning to it.

Indeed. Because Rory McIlroy hasn't written a thesis on his national identity, David Walsh feels obliged to write one on his behalf. Classic Phil Space stuff.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on June 23, 2014, 03:51:25 PM
why has Rory never acknowledged that tradition? Has he ever attended a Gaa match? Why has he pumped a lot of his earnings into Ulster Rugby? Has he ever donated to St Pauls in Holywood?

To those who are thinking of typing "so what?" may I remind you that this is an open discussion board so why should I not ask these questions?

Orior- I'm not really sure that I see your point, he is a huge Ulster Rugby fan and he wants to see "his" team win. Can you tell me one piece of upside for the kid to "acknowledge the tradition", what happened when he pucked a ball at the Irish open? It makes absolutely no sense for his family and friends that still live at home. He is out, and done and living in Florida, however his family and friends live and deal with the incessant commentary (including this board) which means that he can't get a single break no matter what he does. No win situation in being a young public figure from the wee 6...

I will hold my hand up to you and Hardy and admit that I am a GAA bigot. However just to be clear I strongly argue that I'm not a religious bigot nor nationality bigot - just a gaelic games bigot.

My tiny mind cannot understand how someone with such a tradition on his mothers side can completely ignore the game.  That is the crux of the matter for me, and which is why I list the things in his environment which could have influenced him.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: HiMucker on June 23, 2014, 04:03:02 PM
Does GAA not skip a generation on your mothers side?  Or is that baldness? I cant remember
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: deiseach on June 23, 2014, 04:08:32 PM
I will hold my hand up to you and Hardy and admit that I am a GAA bigot. However just to be clear I strongly argue that I'm not a religious bigot nor nationality bigot - just a gaelic games bigot.

My tiny mind cannot understand how someone with such a tradition on his mothers side can completely ignore the game.  That is the crux of the matter for me, and which is why I list the things in his environment which could have influenced him.

At the risk of doing a David Walsh and just filling in the gaps with whatever pop psychology is to hand, maybe Rory doesn't think of anything past golf. You often see reference being made to soccer players who supported team X when they were a boy yet have no problem plying for team X's greatest foe. For me, this is  because their support for team X was very shallow. To get to the level they did, they ate/drank/slept the playing of the game, and didn't have much time for anything else. And Rory McIlroy has risen very far in his chosen sport.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 23, 2014, 07:03:51 PM
why has Rory never acknowledged that tradition? Has he ever attended a Gaa match? Why has he pumped a lot of his earnings into Ulster Rugby? Has he ever donated to St Pauls in Holywood?

To those who are thinking of typing "so what?" may I remind you that this is an open discussion board so why should I not ask these questions?

Orior- I'm not really sure that I see your point, he is a huge Ulster Rugby fan and he wants to see "his" team win. Can you tell me one piece of upside for the kid to "acknowledge the tradition", what happened when he pucked a ball at the Irish open? It makes absolutely no sense for his family and friends that still live at home. He is out, and done and living in Florida, however his family and friends live and deal with the incessant commentary (including this board) which means that he can't get a single break no matter what he does. No win situation in being a young public figure from the wee 6...

I will hold my hand up to you and Hardy and admit that I am a GAA bigot. However just to be clear I strongly argue that I'm not a religious bigot nor nationality bigot - just a gaelic games bigot.

My tiny mind cannot understand how someone with such a tradition on his mothers side can completely ignore the game.  That is the crux of the matter for me, and which is why I list the things in his environment which could have influenced him.

I would be and have been at my club playing hurling football for the past 30 odd years, My parents didn't have a GAA bone in their body, and it wasn't unusual either. My kids are not interested either and like their mum turn off when I start talking about it, it happens
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: HiMucker on June 23, 2014, 07:23:55 PM
I will hold my hand up to you and Hardy and admit that I am a GAA bigot. However just to be clear I strongly argue that I'm not a religious bigot nor nationality bigot - just a gaelic games bigot.

My tiny mind cannot understand how someone with such a tradition on his mothers side can completely ignore the game.  That is the crux of the matter for me, and which is why I list the things in his environment which could have influenced him.

At the risk of doing a David Walsh and just filling in the gaps with whatever pop psychology is to hand, maybe Rory doesn't think of anything past golf. You often see reference being made to soccer players who supported team X when they were a boy yet have no problem plying for team X's greatest foe. For me, this is  because their support for team X was very shallow. To get to the level they did, they ate/drank/slept the playing of the game, and didn't have much time for anything else. And Rory McIlroy has risen very far in his chosen sport.
That's a pretty good summary.  I think support in anything you haven't invested time and energy in is shallow
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: nrico2006 on June 24, 2014, 07:40:18 AM
A lot of effort goes on here to try and run McIlroy into the ground.  Should we generate a list of famous catholics who for some strange reason don't pump lots of their money into the GAA?  How does anyone on here know what his mothers tradition is?  How does anybody here know if McIlroys mother has or had any interest in the GAA?  Did she play?  Did she attend lots of games?  Or did she simply have a relative that played?  I have loads of relatives that haven't an interest in gaelic or hurling, me and my brother play but does that mean my sister is a fan? (she isn't).
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Zip Code on June 24, 2014, 07:49:16 AM
Everyone berating him are simply jealous as f**k - get over it lads and move on.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on June 24, 2014, 08:46:02 AM
Everyone berating him are simply jealous as f**k - get over it lads and move on.

His mother's family has a strong GAA tradition.

Just to be clear, I am not berating Rory. In fact I am a huge fan - tournaments get boring once he is out of contention.

Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on June 24, 2014, 02:37:20 PM
I'm not a McIlroy fan. However as a nordie there is a conflict in all of us when it comes to idenity, although I don't like admitting it. I see no problem with his support for Ulster Rugby. I don't really have an issue with his thinking of himself as more British than Irish, it is probably true of a lot of people in the south as well. The only real issue I have and it is not his fault is the use of that loyalist rag to represent people from the North. I also feel that in an all Ireland sport we need an agreed neutral flag. But there is an Irish tendancy and not just in people from Hollywood to lick arse, be it British, European or American arse. Rory's not on his own.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hardy on June 24, 2014, 02:39:35 PM
I'm not a McIlroy fan. However as a nordie there is a conflict in all of us when it comes to idenity, although I don't like admitting it. I see no problem with his support for Ulster Rugby. I don't really have an issue with his thinking of himself as more British than Irish, it is probably true of a lot of people in the south as well. The only real issue I have and it is not his fault is the use of that loyalist rag to represent people from the North. I also feel that in an all Ireland sport we need an agreed neutral flag. But there is an Irish tendancy and not just in people from Hollywood to lick arse, be it British, European or American arse. Rory's not on his own.


I don't know anyone (Irish) in the south who thinks this way.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: muppet on June 24, 2014, 02:41:30 PM
I'm not a McIlroy fan. However as a nordie there is a conflict in all of us when it comes to idenity, although I don't like admitting it. I see no problem with his support for Ulster Rugby. I don't really have an issue with his thinking of himself as more British than Irish, it is probably true of a lot of people in the south as well. The only real issue I have and it is not his fault is the use of that loyalist rag to represent people from the North. I also feel that in an all Ireland sport we need an agreed neutral flag. But there is an Irish tendancy and not just in people from Hollywood to lick arse, be it British, European or American arse. Rory's not on his own.


I don't know anyone (Irish) in the south who thinks this way.

Ah come on Hardy, surely there are loads of Irish people in Meath flying the UJ proudly outside their homes?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AZOffaly on June 24, 2014, 02:42:37 PM
Ah there are in fairness Hardy. I myself have a neighbour from Edinburgh initially and he thinks himself more British than Irish. I've tried to burn him out of his house, but I keep using the petrol in my lawnmower instead.

I have another neighbour from Australia, and another from South Africa. They don't consider themselves Irish either the b**tards.

Feck ya Hardy. I think you edited the post to say (Irish).
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hardy on June 24, 2014, 02:47:38 PM
Ah there are in fairness Hardy. I myself have a neighbour from Edinburgh initially and he thinks himself more British than Irish. I've tried to burn him out of his house, but I keep using the petrol in my lawnmower instead.

I have another neighbour from Australia, and another from South Africa. They don't consider themselves Irish either the b**tards.

Feck ya Hardy. I think you edited the post to say (Irish).

Did not. I'm not like you!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on June 24, 2014, 02:51:05 PM
I'm not a McIlroy fan. However as a nordie there is a conflict in all of us when it comes to idenity, although I don't like admitting it. I see no problem with his support for Ulster Rugby. I don't really have an issue with his thinking of himself as more British than Irish, it is probably true of a lot of people in the south as well. The only real issue I have and it is not his fault is the use of that loyalist rag to represent people from the North. I also feel that in an all Ireland sport we need an agreed neutral flag. But there is an Irish tendancy and not just in people from Hollywood to lick arse, be it British, European or American arse. Rory's not on his own.


I don't know anyone (Irish) in the south who thinks this way.
Dosen't say much for your social circle. I'd say there are still a fair few West Brits out there!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: AZOffaly on June 24, 2014, 02:53:13 PM
Define 'a lot'. I'm sure there are some people in the Republic that feel an affinity to the UK, but I don't know a hell of a lot that would describe themselves as more British than Irish. Of course to 1 lad on his own, 3 fellas with steel toe capped boots is a lot.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Billys Boots on June 24, 2014, 03:04:19 PM
I honestly have never ever (and I've been thinking about it for the last few minutes) met an Irish person who considered themselves British - the SF propaganda is evidently misleading. 
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hardy on June 24, 2014, 03:23:37 PM
I'm not a McIlroy fan. However as a nordie there is a conflict in all of us when it comes to idenity, although I don't like admitting it. I see no problem with his support for Ulster Rugby. I don't really have an issue with his thinking of himself as more British than Irish, it is probably true of a lot of people in the south as well. The only real issue I have and it is not his fault is the use of that loyalist rag to represent people from the North. I also feel that in an all Ireland sport we need an agreed neutral flag. But there is an Irish tendancy and not just in people from Hollywood to lick arse, be it British, European or American arse. Rory's not on his own.


I don't know anyone (Irish) in the south who thinks this way.
Dosen't say much for your social circle. I'd say there are still a fair few West Brits out there!

My social circle is grand. As it happens, a lot of it includes Church of Ireland people, by virtue of a particular concentration of them where I live. Popular prejudice would presume a high level of pro-British feeling among people of that background. I don't know one of them who considers himself/herself anything but Irish, never mind "more British than Irish".

I mean no reflection on yourself, Applesisapples. I find that a lot of Northerners harbour this misconception about us Irish down here. It's just not true.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on June 24, 2014, 03:31:39 PM
Define 'a lot'. I'm sure there are some people in the Republic that feel an affinity to the UK, but I don't know a hell of a lot that would describe themselves as more British than Irish. Of course to 1 lad on his own, 3 fellas with steel toe capped boots is a lot.
Perhaps a better word would have been some, as you say a lot depends on circumstances.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on June 24, 2014, 03:34:05 PM
I'm not a McIlroy fan. However as a nordie there is a conflict in all of us when it comes to idenity, although I don't like admitting it. I see no problem with his support for Ulster Rugby. I don't really have an issue with his thinking of himself as more British than Irish, it is probably true of a lot of people in the south as well. The only real issue I have and it is not his fault is the use of that loyalist rag to represent people from the North. I also feel that in an all Ireland sport we need an agreed neutral flag. But there is an Irish tendancy and not just in people from Hollywood to lick arse, be it British, European or American arse. Rory's not on his own.


I don't know anyone (Irish) in the south who thinks this way.
Dosen't say much for your social circle. I'd say there are still a fair few West Brits out there!

My social circle is grand. As it happens, a lot of it includes Church of Ireland people, by virtue of a particular concentration of them where I live. Popular prejudice would presume a high level of pro-British feeling among people of that background. I don't know one of them who considers himself/herself anything but Irish, never mind "more British than Irish".

I mean no reflection on yourself, Applesisapples. I find that a lot of Northerners harbour this misconception about us Irish down here. It's just not true.
You Irish down there as opposed to us brits? There are many prods in border counties who would be more British than Irish. Take Basil McCrea and WIllie Hay as examples both prominent Unionist Politicians, both born in Donegal.
The Social Circle bit was tongue in cheek.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Rossfan on June 24, 2014, 03:35:20 PM

a lot of it includes Church of Ireland people, by virtue of a particular concentration of them where I live. Popular prejudice would presume a high level of pro-British feeling among people of that background. I don't know one of them who considers himself/herself anything but Irish, never mind "more British than Irish".


My Protestant in laws ( 2 different sets) certainly don't consider themselves to be anything other than Irish and have no particular pro Britishness about them at all.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hardy on June 24, 2014, 03:37:42 PM
I'm not a McIlroy fan. However as a nordie there is a conflict in all of us when it comes to idenity, although I don't like admitting it. I see no problem with his support for Ulster Rugby. I don't really have an issue with his thinking of himself as more British than Irish, it is probably true of a lot of people in the south as well. The only real issue I have and it is not his fault is the use of that loyalist rag to represent people from the North. I also feel that in an all Ireland sport we need an agreed neutral flag. But there is an Irish tendancy and not just in people from Hollywood to lick arse, be it British, European or American arse. Rory's not on his own.


I don't know anyone (Irish) in the south who thinks this way.
Dosen't say much for your social circle. I'd say there are still a fair few West Brits out there!

My social circle is grand. As it happens, a lot of it includes Church of Ireland people, by virtue of a particular concentration of them where I live. Popular prejudice would presume a high level of pro-British feeling among people of that background. I don't know one of them who considers himself/herself anything but Irish, never mind "more British than Irish".

I mean no reflection on yourself, Applesisapples. I find that a lot of Northerners harbour this misconception about us Irish down here. It's just not true.
You Irish down there as opposed to us brits? There are many prods in border counties who would be more British than Irish. Take Basil McCrea and WIllie Hay as examples both prominent Unionist Politicians, both born in Donegal.


No. We Irish down here as perceived by you Irish up there. Stop looking for offence where none exists. As regards, Donegal, I haven't a clue. I was just responding to your statement that "a lot of people in the south" probably think of themselves as more British than Irish and giving you my perception from my experience.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on June 25, 2014, 09:12:14 AM
I'm not a McIlroy fan. However as a nordie there is a conflict in all of us when it comes to idenity, although I don't like admitting it. I see no problem with his support for Ulster Rugby. I don't really have an issue with his thinking of himself as more British than Irish, it is probably true of a lot of people in the south as well. The only real issue I have and it is not his fault is the use of that loyalist rag to represent people from the North. I also feel that in an all Ireland sport we need an agreed neutral flag. But there is an Irish tendancy and not just in people from Hollywood to lick arse, be it British, European or American arse. Rory's not on his own.


I don't know anyone (Irish) in the south who thinks this way.
Dosen't say much for your social circle. I'd say there are still a fair few West Brits out there!

My social circle is grand. As it happens, a lot of it includes Church of Ireland people, by virtue of a particular concentration of them where I live. Popular prejudice would presume a high level of pro-British feeling among people of that background. I don't know one of them who considers himself/herself anything but Irish, never mind "more British than Irish".

I mean no reflection on yourself, Applesisapples. I find that a lot of Northerners harbour this misconception about us Irish down here. It's just not true.
You Irish down there as opposed to us brits? There are many prods in border counties who would be more British than Irish. Take Basil McCrea and WIllie Hay as examples both prominent Unionist Politicians, both born in Donegal.


No. We Irish down here as perceived by you Irish up there. Stop looking for offence where none exists. As regards, Donegal, I haven't a clue. I was just responding to your statement that "a lot of people in the south" probably think of themselves as more British than Irish and giving you my perception from my experience.
I knew what you meant, I'm not in the least offended you will no doubt be glad to here.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stephenite on June 25, 2014, 09:59:03 AM
I'm not a McIlroy fan. However as a nordie there is a conflict in all of us when it comes to idenity, although I don't like admitting it. I see no problem with his support for Ulster Rugby. I don't really have an issue with his thinking of himself as more British than Irish, it is probably true of a lot of people in the south as well. The only real issue I have and it is not his fault is the use of that loyalist rag to represent people from the North. I also feel that in an all Ireland sport we need an agreed neutral flag. But there is an Irish tendancy and not just in people from Hollywood to lick arse, be it British, European or American arse. Rory's not on his own.


I don't know anyone (Irish) in the south who thinks this way.
Dosen't say much for your social circle. I'd say there are still a fair few West Brits out there!

My social circle is grand. As it happens, a lot of it includes Church of Ireland people, by virtue of a particular concentration of them where I live. Popular prejudice would presume a high level of pro-British feeling among people of that background. I don't know one of them who considers himself/herself anything but Irish, never mind "more British than Irish".

I mean no reflection on yourself, Applesisapples. I find that a lot of Northerners harbour this misconception about us Irish down here. It's just not true.
You Irish down there as opposed to us brits? There are many prods in border counties who would be more British than Irish. Take Basil McCrea and WIllie Hay as examples both prominent Unionist Politicians, both born in Donegal.


No. We Irish down here as perceived by you Irish up there. Stop looking for offence where none exists. As regards, Donegal, I haven't a clue. I was just responding to your statement that "a lot of people in the south" probably think of themselves as more British than Irish and giving you my perception from my experience.
I knew what you meant, I'm not in the least offended you will no doubt be glad to here.

Hear
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Hardy on June 25, 2014, 11:25:11 AM
Ah here!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on June 25, 2014, 11:28:35 AM
Ah here!

Where?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: muppet on June 25, 2014, 01:05:04 PM
Ah here!

Where?

Their.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: ziggysego on June 25, 2014, 01:56:11 PM
Ah here!

Where?

Their.

Wear?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: EC Unique on July 23, 2014, 09:01:43 AM
New Bird 8)

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Model Sasha Gale.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: sensethetone on July 23, 2014, 09:43:23 AM
Good lad Rory
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: WT4E on July 23, 2014, 12:26:30 PM
mmmmmmm is that not a picture of nadia forde the other gal he's linked with?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: screenexile on July 23, 2014, 12:59:44 PM
Always good when lads remember the rules!!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: haranguerer on July 23, 2014, 01:04:37 PM
Great looking girl, but shes no model. Same goes for the other one.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Aristo 60 on July 23, 2014, 01:20:03 PM
10/1 he'll be back with the Sweeney doll by the turn of the decade.

Any golfer will tell you the first (hole in one) is the sweetest.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 23, 2014, 01:20:21 PM
mmmmmmm is that not a picture of nadia forde the other gal he's linked with?
It is. EC got his source wrong. The wee curly hoor must have the pick of them now.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on July 23, 2014, 01:48:52 PM
mmmmmmm is that not a picture of nadia forde the other gal he's linked with?
It is. EC got his source wrong. The wee curly hoor must have the pick of them now.
I see what you did there...
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: screenexile on July 23, 2014, 02:18:56 PM
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/columnists/kieran-shannon/kieran-shannon-writing-is-on-the-wall-for-ireland-legend-mcilroy-276217.html
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on August 01, 2014, 07:14:02 PM
Opens the second round of the Bridgestone with three consecutive birdies
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: armaghniac on August 01, 2014, 08:20:29 PM
Opens the second round of the Bridgestone with three consecutive birdies

He'll be a great man for the birdies now.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: cornerback on August 01, 2014, 09:33:17 PM
Just seen McIlroy giving a young cub a high 5 between the 17th green & 18th tee. Is all forgiven???  ;)  :o
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: glens abu on August 01, 2014, 10:09:12 PM
Some back 9 from Sergio  :o
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on August 01, 2014, 10:09:59 PM
But Sergio birdies the last seven holes of his round!  Sergio in 1st, Rory 4th right now.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Boycey on August 01, 2014, 10:17:35 PM
I'd still back Rory over Sergio even with a 4 shot head start
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on August 02, 2014, 10:05:46 PM
So, the third round finally complete, Rory and Sergio will be in the final pairing tomorrow, the Spaniard leading by three shots.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 03, 2014, 07:18:39 PM
Rory reckons he needs to shoot 63 to win today
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: beer baron on August 03, 2014, 07:22:16 PM
Playing mind games i reckon. Not that Garcia's known for being fragile or anything  ;D Rory'll be disgustingly short in the betting for next week if he wins.
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Post by: beer baron on August 03, 2014, 07:33:21 PM
Rory pulls 1 back on the 1st
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Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 03, 2014, 07:48:02 PM
and another on the 2nd
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Post by: Orior on August 03, 2014, 07:49:07 PM
Looks like an entertaining evening ahead!
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Post by: Orior on August 03, 2014, 08:00:26 PM
Class act by Sergio getting the dame's contact number after smashing her diamond ring.
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Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 03, 2014, 08:02:46 PM
And now Rory is in the lead  ;D
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Post by: beer baron on August 03, 2014, 08:05:24 PM
The diamond's been found she's probably sickened  ;D She was thinking it was Lottery winning time  :P
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on August 03, 2014, 09:08:12 PM
Come on Sergio..!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on August 03, 2014, 09:09:23 PM
All tied with nine to play
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: DuffleKing on August 03, 2014, 10:46:48 PM

The golf on tv anywhere?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: beer baron on August 03, 2014, 10:48:37 PM
Sky sports4 if you have it
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on August 03, 2014, 11:05:22 PM
Attaboy, Rory.  Beats Sergio and is once again world's #1
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: hardstation on August 03, 2014, 11:06:53 PM
Ooh Aah Up The Ra...
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Post by: laoislad on August 03, 2014, 11:07:07 PM
Meh.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 03, 2014, 11:07:33 PM
Attaboy, Rory.  Beats Sergio and is once again world's #1

He is in the form of his life at the minute
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: DuffleKing on August 03, 2014, 11:08:50 PM

How'd it finish score wise lads?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: EC Unique on August 03, 2014, 11:11:53 PM
 :) like.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on August 03, 2014, 11:35:40 PM

How'd it finish score wise lads?

Rory -15
Sergio - 13
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on August 04, 2014, 12:13:49 AM
Up the RA, Hard?  Never pegged you as an apologist for the Royal and Ancient.  What's your handicap?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 04, 2014, 07:40:33 AM

How'd it finish score wise lads?

Rory -15
Sergio - 13
A Rory win or a Sergio loss?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 04, 2014, 08:00:25 AM
Pretty much a Rory win but Sergio couldn't stick with him. Hit a few wobbly ones but Rory is coming into the form of his life.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Boycey on August 04, 2014, 08:03:23 AM

How'd it finish score wise lads?

Rory -15
Sergio - 13
A Rory win or a Sergio loss?

Rory birdied the first 3 holes to pass Sergio and had him demoralised and never really looked like losing it after that. The guys on Sky last night several times described it as the best driving performance they'd ever seen over a tournament. Rory was putting it easily 30-40 yards past Sergio last night and Sergios no slouch.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 04, 2014, 08:10:09 AM

How'd it finish score wise lads?

Rory -15
Sergio - 13
A Rory win or a Sergio loss?

Rory birdied the first 3 holes to pass Sergio and had him demoralised and never really looked like losing it after that. The guys on Sky last night several times described it as the best driving performance they'd ever seen over a tournament. Rory was putting it easily 30-40 yards past Sergio last night and Sergios no slouch.
Would be interested to see what sales of Nike clubs will be over the next year or so. Might be a good deal after all if he continues on like this.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on August 04, 2014, 08:14:25 AM
Up the RA, Hard?  Never pegged you as an apologist for the Royal and Ancient.  What's your handicap?

Before the final round David Feherty asked Rory what was his target.

Rory says he need to shoot about a 63.

Feherty congratulates Rory for having the highest expectations of any ulsterman.

Silence from Rory.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on August 04, 2014, 10:29:48 AM
Up the RA, Hard?  Never pegged you as an apologist for the Royal and Ancient.  What's your handicap?

Before the final round David Feherty asked Rory what was his target.

Rory says he need to shoot about a 63.

Feherty congratulates Rory for having the highest expectations of any ulsterman.

Silence from Rory.
And...?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on August 04, 2014, 10:59:28 AM
Exactly
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on August 04, 2014, 01:12:52 PM

How'd it finish score wise lads?

Rory -15
Sergio - 13
A Rory win or a Sergio loss?

I think it has to go down as a Rory win on the basis of the first five holes! That was juggernaut stuff and it put Sergio on the ropes. That being said Sergio was one of only a few guys in the top 20 to play the course over par after the rain.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: EC Unique on August 04, 2014, 01:54:56 PM
Our Rory back to number 1. He could possibly go on to be the greatest ever golfer.  :)
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on August 04, 2014, 02:35:17 PM
Our Rory back to number 1. He could possibly go on to be the greatest ever golfer.  :)

I hope so. Adam Scott seems to be going the wrong direction, Sergio always bottles it, Bubba is a clown, and Rickie Fowler has yet to mature. Who else is there?

It still makes me proud remembering the time I sat in traffic at the Balmoral roundabout in Belfast and realised he was the BMW next to me, with Holly in the passenger seat. I rolled down the window and shouted "is that you?" and he replied "yes!"
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: DennistheMenace on August 04, 2014, 02:42:26 PM
Our Rory back to number 1. He could possibly go on to be the greatest ever golfer.  :)

I hope so. Adam Scott seems to be going the wrong direction, Sergio always bottles it, Bubba is a clown, and Rickie Fowler has yet to mature. Who else is there?

It still makes me proud remembering the time I sat in traffic at the Balmoral roundabout in Belfast and realised he was the BMW next to me, with Holly in the passenger seat. I rolled down the window and shouted "is that you?" and he replied "yes!"

I think it's more a case of Rory going forwards rather than Scott going the wrong direction. AS hasn't missed a cut this year, has been in contention in most of the big ones, hasn't finished outside the top 10 in his last 5 events with a record of 8th, 5th, 9th, 4th, 1st.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Kidder81 on August 04, 2014, 03:17:09 PM
Our Rory back to number 1. He could possibly go on to be the greatest ever golfer.  :)

Still trying to convince yourself and us that you give a shit about golf and Rory McIlroy ?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: J OGorman on August 04, 2014, 03:27:20 PM
whether you like the chap or not (some choose to hate him and have never laid eyes on him, which I find pretty mad), he is the worlds no 1 at golf. The very best at the minute on the planet at what he does. That is some achievement altogether. Fair play to him
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: heganboy on August 04, 2014, 03:42:33 PM
6-1 for the PGA?
thats pretty strong from Paddy Power, but as a mate of mine said this am "would you lay him?"
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: EC Unique on August 04, 2014, 03:48:24 PM
Our Rory back to number 1. He could possibly go on to be the greatest ever golfer.  :)

Still trying to convince yourself and us that you give a shit about golf and Rory McIlroy ?

What makes you think I don't?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: beer baron on August 04, 2014, 03:51:07 PM
6-1 for the PGA?
thats pretty strong from Paddy Power, but as a mate of mine said this am "would you lay him?"

Is that in shop? Friend of mine asked me to put 50 e/w on for him as he's on holidays and best i could see anywhere was 5/1?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: heganboy on August 04, 2014, 04:08:52 PM
paddypower.com about the same on bet fair and betdaq
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: DennistheMenace on August 04, 2014, 04:09:45 PM
Valhalla will suit him even more this week the way he is driving, i'll be putting money on him again for 3 in a row.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 04, 2014, 04:12:01 PM
Our Rory back to number 1. He could possibly go on to be the greatest ever golfer.  :)

Still trying to convince yourself and us that you give a shit about golf and Rory McIlroy ?

It must be hurting you a lot recently, grow up
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on August 04, 2014, 04:24:26 PM
Our Rory back to number 1. He could possibly go on to be the greatest ever golfer.  :)

I hope so. Adam Scott seems to be going the wrong direction, Sergio always bottles it, Bubba is a clown, and Rickie Fowler has yet to mature. Who else is there?

It still makes me proud remembering the time I sat in traffic at the Balmoral roundabout in Belfast and realised he was the BMW next to me, with Holly in the passenger seat. I rolled down the window and shouted "is that you?" and he replied "yes!"

The problem with all of the golfers above is that they all fight against one thing which ruins it for them.

Scott - not a great putter, and with Jan 1 2016 looming on the horizon he is going to have to find something else that works for him. His ball striking is phenomenal and when Rory was struggling, Adam Scott was the best driver of the ball on tour

Sergio - was never a great putter but as he showed this weekend he has turned a corner. Has all the physical attributes, just can't get over the line (Mayo)

Bubba - amazing talent, plays the game with zero fear, but a tight tree lined course will cause him problems if he isn't on form

Ricky - I think Ricky will get it done sooner rather than later. Second at both opens, 4th or 5th at the masters


The other one I think Rory needs to watch out for is Jordan Spieth, but for the mean time if he keeps his head right he will be #1 for a while.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: gawa316 on August 04, 2014, 04:50:45 PM
Our Rory back to number 1. He could possibly go on to be the greatest ever golfer.  :)

I hope so. Adam Scott seems to be going the wrong direction, Sergio always bottles it, Bubba is a clown, and Rickie Fowler has yet to mature. Who else is there?

It still makes me proud remembering the time I sat in traffic at the Balmoral roundabout in Belfast and realised he was the BMW next to me, with Holly in the passenger seat. I rolled down the window and shouted "is that you?" and he replied "yes!"

The problem with all of the golfers above is that they all fight against one thing which ruins it for them.

Scott - not a great putter, and with Jan 1 2016 looming on the horizon he is going to have to find something else that works for him. His ball striking is phenomenal and when Rory was struggling, Adam Scott was the best driver of the ball on tour

Sergio - was never a great putter but as he showed this weekend he has turned a corner. Has all the physical attributes, just can't get over the line (Mayo)

Bubba - amazing talent, plays the game with zero fear, but a tight tree lined course will cause him problems if he isn't on form

Ricky - I think Ricky will get it done sooner rather than later. Second at both opens, 4th or 5th at the masters


The other one I think Rory needs to watch out for is Jordan Spieth, but for the mean time if he keeps his head right he will be #1 for a while.

What about Day? Maybe Simpson, Snedeker, Bradley?
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on August 04, 2014, 05:03:58 PM
Day will grab a major I think - but this weird thumb thing isn't helping right now and for all his high finishes in the majors I thought he would have had one by now.

Neither of the others have what it takes to be number 1, I don't think. Snedeker, maybe... A lot of folks pump Keegan Bradley up too, but I think there are too many players ahead of him.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: glens abu on August 04, 2014, 05:04:49 PM
Strange watching it last night had a couple of quid at 25/1 on Sergio,but what a display by McIlroy he is on fire and must have a great chance next week.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: heganboy on August 04, 2014, 05:18:26 PM
Day will grab a major I think - but this weird thumb thing isn't helping right now and for all his high finishes in the majors I thought he would have had one by now.

Neither of the others have what it takes to be number 1, I don't think. Snedeker, maybe... A lot of folks pump Keegan Bradley up too, but I think there are too many players ahead of him.

Jason Day is a phenomenal golfer, has all the attributes, but not firing on all cylinders at the minute. Wouldn't fancy him this weekend
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 04, 2014, 08:05:45 PM
I'll be going for Rickie this weekend.

Should have laid on Rory yesterday. 15/8 was a bit short for me
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: DrinkingHarp on August 07, 2014, 09:54:04 AM
I saw this one while watching the match, he couldn't do worse

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201408/model-captured-tv-trying-get-rory-mcilroys-attention-internet-sensation
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on August 07, 2014, 10:10:43 AM
I saw this one while watching the match, he couldn't do worse

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201408/model-captured-tv-trying-get-rory-mcilroys-attention-internet-sensation

I saw that as well, and had noticed she kept playing with her hair - a sure sign.

Anyway, well done to the camera man - up of this sort of thing!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 07, 2014, 10:36:36 AM
I saw this one while watching the match, he couldn't do worse

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dish/201408/model-captured-tv-trying-get-rory-mcilroys-attention-internet-sensation

I saw that as well, and had noticed she kept playing with her hair - a sure sign.

Anyway, well done to the camera man - up of this sort of thing!

She was rotten, I'm sure Rory didn't bat an eye at thon
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: beer baron on August 07, 2014, 12:08:38 PM
There's girls like this out there and then women wonder why men have no respect for them ;D
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: muppet on August 07, 2014, 04:51:39 PM
There's girls like this out there and then women wonder why men have no respect for them ;D

Where? I have played golf and I have never had this happen to me.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 07, 2014, 04:56:06 PM
There's girls like this out there and then women wonder why men have no respect for them ;D

Where? I have played golf and I have never had this happen to me.

That's because I was only with you the once!  If you had me a few other times they would have been thronging round us!!!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 07, 2014, 05:04:06 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/golf/28686433 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/golf/28686433)

No pressure on Rory!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: beer baron on August 07, 2014, 05:15:05 PM
I doubt it's his golf skills or his curly wig that's attracting the little madam.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: 5 Sams on August 07, 2014, 09:20:47 PM
I doubt it's his golf skills or his curly wig that's attracting the little madam.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj-9lSEBBm0
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Oraisteach on August 07, 2014, 09:48:07 PM
After racking up a double and a bogey, Rory has righted the ship with three birdies in a row.  Sitting at three under right now.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: glens abu on August 07, 2014, 09:52:43 PM
After racking up a double and a bogey, Rory has righted the ship with three birdies in a row.  Sitting at three under right now.

And chance to make it 4 in a row,playing great apart from those two holes.Will take some beating on this form
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 08, 2014, 09:16:25 PM
what a horrible guy  ::)

http://vaughtsviews.com/guest-post-rory-mcilroy-gave-young-fan-a-lasting-memory-at-louisvile-thorntons/
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 09:29:44 PM
what a horrible guy  ::)

http://vaughtsviews.com/guest-post-rory-mcilroy-gave-young-fan-a-lasting-memory-at-louisvile-thorntons/

The bastid
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: glens abu on August 08, 2014, 09:30:56 PM
what a horrible guy  ::)

http://vaughtsviews.com/guest-post-rory-mcilroy-gave-young-fan-a-lasting-memory-at-louisvile-thorntons/

Can't see Tiger doing that.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 08, 2014, 09:34:13 PM
what a horrible guy  ::)

http://vaughtsviews.com/guest-post-rory-mcilroy-gave-young-fan-a-lasting-memory-at-louisvile-thorntons/

The bastid
Best of British.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: laoislad on August 08, 2014, 09:39:10 PM
Wow he signed an autograph for someone...Give him a knighthood.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 09:43:51 PM
Wow he signed an autograph for someone...Give him a knighthood.

I'd say he'd settle for another major
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Saffrongael on August 08, 2014, 09:46:07 PM
what a horrible guy  ::)

http://vaughtsviews.com/guest-post-rory-mcilroy-gave-young-fan-a-lasting-memory-at-louisvile-thorntons/

Can't see Tiger doing that.

No I would say Tiger has never given an autograph.  :o
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 08, 2014, 09:49:53 PM
Wow he signed an autograph for someone...Give him a knighthood.
It would be an honourary knighthood. Sure he's Irish at the minute  :P
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2014, 10:27:18 PM
Wow he signed an autograph for someone...Give him a knighthood.
It would be an honourary knighthood. Sure he's Irish at the minute  :P

Was alright for Bob
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Puckoon on August 09, 2014, 07:03:40 PM
They just introduced him on the first tee.

From Ireland, Rory McIlroy


Hope winker Watson enjoyed that!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Applesisapples on August 11, 2014, 09:47:57 AM
Don't worry, Joel Taggart was tweeting about Are We Cuntry as LAD might say, puuting the record straight.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: stew on August 11, 2014, 10:16:21 AM
They just introduced him on the first tee.

From Ireland, Rory McIlroy


Hope winker Watson enjoyed that!

Why can people not be happy for him on here? The man hails from Ireland and gets hated on by his own people! I want j I'm to keep winning but in reality as long as one of the irish lads win I really do not give a shite who wins a major.

These are the golden years for Irish golf, enjoy them because post Rory we might wa ouu t decades for.the next Irish major winner!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: mouview on August 11, 2014, 03:07:59 PM
They just introduced him on the first tee.

From Ireland, Rory McIlroy


Hope winker Watson enjoyed that!

Northern Ireland I think I heard them say.

His driving off the tee over the past month must have been at a level scarcely seen in the game's history - quite exceptional.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: balladmaker on August 11, 2014, 03:13:32 PM
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These are the golden years for Irish golf, enjoy them because post Rory we might wa ouu t decades for.the next Irish major winner!

The mad thing is that he could be winning Major's for the next 20 odd years or more, unreal.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: midLouth on August 11, 2014, 03:17:37 PM
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These are the golden years for Irish golf, enjoy them because post Rory we might wa ouu t decades for.the next Irish major winner!

The mad thing is that he could be winning Major's for the next 20 odd years or more, unreal.

The way he hits the ball you would have to wonder. It will take its toll on his body eventually like Tiger Woods, so it will really depends how he adapts over his career. I still expect Tiger to win a few if he makes some changes, a new coach for a start!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: screenexile on August 11, 2014, 03:44:02 PM
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These are the golden years for Irish golf, enjoy them because post Rory we might wa ouu t decades for.the next Irish major winner!

The mad thing is that he could be winning Major's for the next 20 odd years or more, unreal.

The way he hits the ball you would have to wonder. It will take its toll on his body eventually like Tiger Woods, so it will really depends how he adapts over his career. I still expect Tiger to win a few if he makes some changes, a new coach for a start!

Surely going back to Butch would be a help to him... whatever about how annoying he is commentating and staring right down the camera he seems to know his stuff and the lads he's a proven winning coach.

Tiger needs to get somewhere near the form he was in when Butch was looking after him!
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: Orior on August 11, 2014, 03:46:46 PM
They just introduced him on the first tee.

From Ireland, Rory McIlroy


Hope winker Watson enjoyed that!

Northern Ireland I think I heard them say.

His driving off the tee over the past month must have been at a level scarcely seen in the game's history - quite exceptional.

He said Ireland on Saturday. Not sure about Sunday.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: glens abu on August 11, 2014, 03:47:15 PM
Really think Tigers problem is his injuries and can't keep fit long enough to get back to near his best.Rory is going to rule the roost for a few years providing he stays injury free.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: thebigfella on August 11, 2014, 03:48:37 PM
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These are the golden years for Irish golf, enjoy them because post Rory we might wa ouu t decades for.the next Irish major winner!

The mad thing is that he could be winning Major's for the next 20 odd years or more, unreal.

The way he hits the ball you would have to wonder. It will take its toll on his body eventually like Tiger Woods, so it will really depends how he adapts over his career. I still expect Tiger to win a few if he makes some changes, a new coach for a start!

Surely going back to Butch would be a help to him... whatever about how annoying he is commentating and staring right down the camera he seems to know his stuff and the lads he's a proven winning coach.

Tiger needs to get somewhere near the form he was in when Butch was looking after him!

At the start that annoyed me but he is the best thing about the sky team IMO.
Title: Re: Rory McIlroy
Post by: midLouth on August 11, 2014, 04:11:15 PM
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These are the golden years for Irish golf, enjoy them because post Rory we might wa ouu t decades for.the next Irish major winner!

The mad thing is that he could be winning Major's for the next 20 odd years or more, unreal.

The way he hits the ball you would have to wonder. It will take its toll on his body eventually like Tiger Woods, so it will really depends how he adapts over his career. I still expect Tiger to win a few if he makes some changes, a new coach for a start!

Surely going back to Butch would be a help to him... whatever about how annoying he is commentating and staring right down the camera he seems to know his stuff and the lads he's a proven winning coach.

Tiger needs to get somewhere near the form he was in