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Title: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 09, 2009, 09:11:04 PM
Any runners out there?

I've been running fairly regularly over the last few months (only 1-2 times a week though). I've done a couple of 10ks but try to run 3-4 miles on training runs at fairly leisurely pace (around 6.5mph). I find that my bpm is around 158-160 at comfortable running but can go up to 178 when running uphill or if running anything up to 8.5mph. In order to keep it around 150 bpm which is at the very top end of my supposed optimum (220-age-60%) I'd need to be barely running/fast walking.

What's the best way to get the bpm down? I've heard of interval training but know little about it. At the minute I'm nowhere near breaking the 50min barrier for a 10k with my best at 55m.

Any help welcome.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 09, 2009, 09:24:27 PM
Any runners out there?

I've been running fairly regularly over the last few months (only 1-2 times a week though). I've done a couple of 10ks but try to run 3-4 miles on training runs at fairly leisurely pace (around 6.5mph). I find that my bpm is around 158-160 at comfortable running but can go up to 178 when running uphill or if running anything up to 8.5mph. In order to keep it around 150 bpm which is at the very top end of my supposed optimum (220-age-60%) I'd need to be barely running/fast walking.

What's the best way to get the bpm down? I've heard of interval training but know little about it. At the minute I'm nowhere near breaking the 50min barrier for a 10k with my best at 55m.

Any help welcome.
There are so many variables at play when working out your optimal heart rate. As you are using a generic calculation for all people of your age you seem to fall outside the bell curve and can probably run at a faster pace than your calculation is telling.

If I was you I'd go for pace over heart rate - if you can find and maintain a comfortable pace (mph) for the duration of your 10k  then I would ignore the heart rate monitor.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2009, 09:32:16 PM
As Tony said that's a pretty generic formula. It varies from person to person. There are ways to work out your max heart rate which are considerably more accurate.

http://www.runningforfitness.org/faq/hrmax.php (http://www.runningforfitness.org/faq/hrmax.php)

Look at that - it's a much better way of working it out.

Just going for runs is not the best way to get a 10k time down - it will only get you so far.

Three types of training will get you quicker...
1. Intervals (Reps of x minutes with a break in between with the measure being you should cover the same ground on the first as on the last)
2. Tempo runs (Basically this is fast running however only for a few miles. So at your pace you'd probably want to do ~3 mile in about 26 minutes or so)
3. LSR (Long Slow Runs which for 10ks should be ~70 minutes)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on June 09, 2009, 09:33:52 PM
this may also be relevant to my interests;

o'neill, while not actually answering your question, i did a quick google for a 10k training programme; the time to run website has a bit on it for 55min runners to get to sub 50 (the programme seemed a bit complicated, but im not as clever as you) ;)

also, looked at this one; http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_4/138.shtml - maybe useful for beginners like meself;

if i can hijack the thread for a mo'

what is the craic about training at the optimum bpm for weight loss; i just dont get it that by goin relatively easy on eg a cross trainer or treadmill for 20mins, your burnin more fat than if you push it a bit more
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2009, 09:39:02 PM
I've read, though I'm no expert, that a lot of it is related to time so I suppose optimum BPM is to ensure you can exercise for longer.

Apparently for a period of time you'll burn only your "carbs" store and then after a further period of time you'll start burning your fat store.

Slower heart beat = longer training duration = more time in fat burn territory.

Only what I've read but I would reckon it to be true...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on June 09, 2009, 09:42:35 PM
My advice would be to forget about the science and just go out and enjoy the run. However..

1) Set a target time for half way and try to be quicker on the return.

2) Start noting your times.

3) Vary the runs, and the terrain.

4) Call over to the Cavehill and I'll race you up and over. Dont worry, my neighbour is a paramedic.

5) When you pass any women, hold your belly in, smile and breath easy.... till you get past them.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: leenie on June 09, 2009, 09:48:29 PM
Any runners out there?



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Title: Re: Running
Post by: hardstation on June 09, 2009, 09:51:56 PM
Fcuk, that's a good day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 09, 2009, 09:59:31 PM
Have to admit that having the heart boyo on made my runs more comfortable. I was busting myself after 3 miles but this way, keeping the rate steady has made it more enjoyable.

Anyway, there's this this Saturday:

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Title: Re: Running
Post by: delboy on June 09, 2009, 10:54:15 PM
Isn't 60 % fat burning territory, aerobic training can go up to about 85 % of max heart rate, above that its seen as anerobic training (although both things occur in tandem truth be told).

If the goal is to get fitter and faster then don't be afraid to push it into the higher % rates.

Like someone else has mentioned, interval training can be very effective at raising fitness, its all great for mixing it up and prevent the running from becoming 'stale'. Another advantage is that it teaches you how to run faster, sounds silly but there is a technique to running fluently at speed, interval training will help you find your own tecnique.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Gnevin on June 09, 2009, 11:02:56 PM
Lads I'm able fairly comfortably to run for 30 minutes in the gym covering about 4/5 km and then doing 5/6 on the bike in 15/20 minutes ,however I can't sprint for shite with out being  seriously out of breath . Any idea's why or how to improve this?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 09, 2009, 11:50:49 PM
Different kind of fitness... You're hitting 10 minute miles or so there so sprinting is a bit of a step up. Your lung capacity wouldn't be tested running long distances as opposed to sprinting.

To get better at sprinting you'd need to be doing shuttle drills etc I'd have thought. Mix up the training. Do short stuff, intervals etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: delboy on June 10, 2009, 12:04:22 AM
Lads I'm able fairly comfortably to run for 30 minutes in the gym covering about 4/5 km and then doing 5/6 on the bike in 15/20 minutes ,however I can't sprint for shite with out being  seriously out of breath . Any idea's why or how to improve this?

Welcome to the club, if you aren't out of breath after sprinting then you aren't sprinting! There is all sorts of ways of improving sprinting the main one is to simply do more sprints.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gaa.boy on June 10, 2009, 11:27:41 AM
I have started running 6/7 miles 4 or 5 times a week and wearing a heart rate monitor. My bpm seem to be way above what it should be. For my entire run it seems to be between 160-210. Should I be worried?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 10, 2009, 12:43:32 PM
I have started running 6/7 miles 4 or 5 times a week and wearing a heart rate monitor. My bpm seem to be way above what it should be. For my entire run it seems to be between 160-210. Should I be worried?

I'd be the same but going by online advice everyone's max is different.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thebigfella on June 10, 2009, 02:51:03 PM
I have started running 6/7 miles 4 or 5 times a week and wearing a heart rate monitor. My bpm seem to be way above what it should be. For my entire run it seems to be between 160-210. Should I be worried?

I'd be the same but going by online advice everyone's max is different.

do you not think 5 times a week is a bit much? I'd try to alternate between the days runnning with some non impact stuff, especially if your ruunning on roads
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mannix on June 10, 2009, 04:57:57 PM
i agree with bigfella, you are heading towards injury. 3 to 4 miles is enough and maybe a longer run once a week followed by a day off. you should also be doing short sprints and hill runs if you want to build endurance and muscle to prevent inury.
what are you training for anyway?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: delboy on June 10, 2009, 05:15:34 PM
I have started running 6/7 miles 4 or 5 times a week and wearing a heart rate monitor. My bpm seem to be way above what it should be. For my entire run it seems to be between 160-210. Should I be worried?

No not really, you could happen to have a very high max heart rate (its at least 210 anyway), that 220 minus age is a v. v. general estimate. If you really want to find out what your max is try running up and down a hill until you are at 100 % and feel like you have nothing left in the tank to give whatsoever, the max reading you get from the heart rate monitor is you real max heart rate rather than some guesstimate (obviously you need to be healthy and reasonably fit before attempting something like that).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gaa.boy on June 10, 2009, 05:43:21 PM
Thanks for that delboy. Im just running to lose a bit of weight at the minute, but would like to do a few 10k races later in the year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DrinkingHarp on June 10, 2009, 09:16:28 PM
Does running between the couch and fridge count?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 10, 2009, 10:21:49 PM
i agree with bigfella, you are heading towards injury. 3 to 4 miles is enough and maybe a longer run once a week followed by a day off. you should also be doing short sprints and hill runs if you want to build endurance and muscle to prevent inury.
what are you training for anyway?

I tend not to run two days in succession - has that any bearing on gaining a natural fitness - should I try to combine a couple of days and then a day off?

It the moment it's usually Sun - Tues - Thurs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on June 10, 2009, 10:25:25 PM
i agree with bigfella, you are heading towards injury. 3 to 4 miles is enough and maybe a longer run once a week followed by a day off. you should also be doing short sprints and hill runs if you want to build endurance and muscle to prevent inury.
what are you training for anyway?

I tend not to run two days in succession - has that any bearing on gaining a natural fitness - should I try to combine a couple of days and then a day off?

It the moment it's usually Sun - Tues - Thurs.

No the frequency you are doing is grand, you should always have a day off, let the muscles recover. Rest is as important as the actual running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thebigfella on June 10, 2009, 10:40:48 PM
i agree with bigfella, you are heading towards injury. 3 to 4 miles is enough and maybe a longer run once a week followed by a day off. you should also be doing short sprints and hill runs if you want to build endurance and muscle to prevent inury.
what are you training for anyway?

I tend not to run two days in succession - has that any bearing on gaining a natural fitness - should I try to combine a couple of days and then a day off?

It the moment it's usually Sun - Tues - Thurs.

Nah I would do some weights or non impact stuff in between to avoid injury.

I would normally do something like this when I get the chance but not easy when your working away all the time.
Monday - Rest
Tuesday - Run
Wednesday - Weight Training/Swim or Cycle
Thursday - Run
Friday - Weight Training
Saturday - Long Run
Sunday - Swim or Cycle (sometimes both) to help loosen you up after Sat

Some people reckon you should have 2 days off, usually friday to prepare you for Sat but I like to do a couple of sessions of weights in a week, nothing too hectic though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 16, 2009, 08:06:19 PM
Any runners out there?

I've been running fairly regularly over the last few months (only 1-2 times a week though). I've done a couple of 10ks but try to run 3-4 miles on training runs at fairly leisurely pace (around 6.5mph). I find that my bpm is around 158-160 at comfortable running but can go up to 178 when running uphill or if running anything up to 8.5mph. In order to keep it around 150 bpm which is at the very top end of my supposed optimum (220-age-60%) I'd need to be barely running/fast walking.

What's the best way to get the bpm down? I've heard of interval training but know little about it. At the minute I'm nowhere near breaking the 50min barrier for a 10k with my best at 55m.

Any help welcome.
What sort of hrm do you have? Something like a Polar? Does it come with a chest strap or do you have to buy separately?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: naka on June 16, 2009, 08:58:08 PM
anybody doing the lisburn 10k/halg marathon tomorrow night
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on June 16, 2009, 09:42:52 PM
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anybody doing the lisburn 10k/halg marathon tomorrow night

Nope, but if you are doing the half be prepared for torture.  It is the hilliest, toughest mother f**king run I ever completed.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 17, 2009, 12:30:09 AM
I've recently started doing triathlons, really enjoying them but my running is pathetic, 25 mins for 5k.

Seen as i play football i'm stuck for time to train, the gaa training is good for what its intended but brutal for running alone.

SO i do 3 other runs a week:
1. A long run, min 10k, nice slow pace, 6 min k's
2. A short run, usually half of run 1, i do them in individual k's, set a time for myself, so i'm trying to get to a 20min 5k, so i run 1k in 4 minutes, stop for 2 mins, 1k in 4 mins, and so on, the idea being that after a while of that i'll reduce the time and when i go to add all 5 together i'll be able to do it in 20
3. i go for a mountain run, dublin is great for these, theres one on every wed, somewhere between 6 & 10k, up and down, really good for strength work, as i tend to stay away from the weights during the summer with football. The mountain running is tough going but its good in that u can walk up if ur out of puff and no one bats an eyelid, and because its a race the competitive nature takes over and u leave it all there.

I'm starting to go for a half an hour swim at lunch, and hopefully 2 nites cycling, up to Johnny foxes and back, a 35k trip, with a serious hill.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrones own on June 17, 2009, 01:14:19 AM
My regime in the last 5/6 years:

Mon- Mountain Biking (varying lengths and degree of difficulty) stretching.
Tues- Circuit training, stretching.
Wed- Track, sprints, steps etc, then a heavy pyramid, stretching.
Thurs- heavy weights night then stretching.
Fri- Biking (same plan as Mon's)
Sat- off
Sun- Karate then 20 mile mountain bike ride in the headlands

Used to try to get to Judo on a Sat morning also (life & work permitting) till I got injured :'(
Work and pressure has me slowed up on the above for the past year though but still doing a bit
with the hope of getting back into it steady.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mannix on June 17, 2009, 08:13:36 AM
25 mins for 5k is hardly pathetic is it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 17, 2009, 08:47:37 AM
anybody doing the lisburn 10k/halg marathon tomorrow night

Yes, thinking of having a stab at it. Would like to hit around 50mins.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Derry Dolly on June 17, 2009, 09:28:12 AM
my god im so unfit  :-[
Title: Re: Running
Post by: The squinted eye on June 17, 2009, 10:09:45 AM
Statrted doing triathlons this year myself, I cant believe the numbers out doing them, becoming a very big sport in Ireland. Have you got the wet suit yet mayo4sam??  I find i cant swim in the pool at all any more since I got it, too boring. Awful easy to swim in the wet suit too,the legs hardly have to kick at all to keep balance with the lift
Title: Re: Running
Post by: stevo-08 on June 17, 2009, 10:33:43 AM
Started the triathlon training this year myself, Im sticking to the sprint events (750m Swim, 20k Cycle, 5k Run) as my swimming is still quite weak. Have to say Im really really enjoying it, although the training is fairly time consuming. But as squinted eye says, the numbers out doing it is unbelievable.

Anyway, doing my first one this weekend in Mulloughmore, so hopefully it goes well. Following that, I've registered for Ballina in July and Lough Key in September. Would be just delighted to complete 3 triathlons this year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: naka on June 17, 2009, 12:09:51 PM
hoping to hit 50 mins for the 10k myself
Title: Re: Running
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 17, 2009, 01:53:58 PM
my god im so unfit  :-[

illdecide will sort you out  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 17, 2009, 01:58:50 PM
my god im so unfit  :-[

illdecide will sort you out  :D
His missus says he'd be more of a sprinter than a marathon man!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 17, 2009, 03:16:16 PM
my god im so unfit  :-[

i have no problem helping you out with some stamina work if that would suit you.  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theskull1 on June 17, 2009, 03:30:01 PM
Sure she's made for stamina ziggy...oh sorry I mean BM

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Title: Re: Running
Post by: Derry Dolly on June 17, 2009, 03:38:33 PM
my god im so unfit  :-[

i have no problem helping you out with some stamina work if that would suit you.  ;)
oh for the love of god how did i not realise before i posted that :D :D
BM wat age r ya ;)
Sure she's made for stamina ziggy...oh sorry I mean BM

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Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 17, 2009, 03:49:51 PM
mannix i suppose it depends on a lot of things but i'm 30 & reasonably fit, i'd should be doing a 20 min 5k. Got the wetsuit alright, wiggle.co.uk is great. Am doing ballina as well steve, i've a few loads of turf that need bringing home if u have the time after, its on good & early. Did kilcock as the 1st, only learned how to swim since christmas so was kaking myself but it was grand, 500m. Then athy, 750m but in the river, easier & quicker. Doing lough ree as well, meant to be good for beginners. U should look out for gaelforce also, defo worth doing
Title: Re: Running
Post by: stevo-08 on June 17, 2009, 09:37:52 PM
mannix i suppose it depends on a lot of things but i'm 30 & reasonably fit, i'd should be doing a 20 min 5k. Got the wetsuit alright, wiggle.co.uk is great. Am doing ballina as well steve, i've a few loads of turf that need bringing home if u have the time after, its on good & early. Did kilcock as the 1st, only learned how to swim since christmas so was kaking myself but it was grand, 500m. Then athy, 750m but in the river, easier & quicker. Doing lough ree as well, meant to be good for beginners. U should look out for gaelforce also, defo worth doing

good man mayo4sam, might see you in ballina. wont make any promises bout the turf though. got my wet suit from wiggle.co.uk also, brilliant website. went for the orca s2 suit, it said it was good for buoyancy so perfect for me ;) Like yourself i only took up the swimming around christmas so it's been a steep learning curve.

 Gaelforce - is that the kayaking and mountain climbing business?? sounds like a challenge alright.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 17, 2009, 09:51:28 PM
Ran 20 minutes today and it nearly killed me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on June 17, 2009, 09:53:53 PM
I'm a regular long distance runner. The problem is, that it has slowed me down from running at speed. Has anyone any idea how to pick up the anti as regards speed or do they not go hand in hand. I really need it for  Hurling. I was thinking cutting out so many miles? Is this the way to go..
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 17, 2009, 09:59:43 PM
25 mins for 5k is hardly pathetic is it?


Not sure, anyone answer this ?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 17, 2009, 10:25:05 PM
i meant it in context lads. I should have said for me. On the tris,i find the transition tough, v dizzy after the swim. BaT the trickis short quick runs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 17, 2009, 10:29:09 PM
Wee bit disappointed with the Lisburn 10k tonight. Did it in 56 mins. Was around 25mins for 5k and planned to step it up between 4 and 6 miles. At 4 miles stepped up to 8.5 mph and felt good. Hit the wall at 4.5 miles during a smallish hill climb. Slowed right down and never picked it up again. Also made the mistake at stopping at a water point for a swig. The last 1k was a feckin tragedy. Much work to do yet. Still want to break 50mins by the end of the summer.

Also made the mistake at starting towards the back of the field. It took a mile before you could run at a decent pace due to the amount of feckin grannies. Must've been over 2000 doing it.

You feel slightly better after you've had a drink and in your car when you see hordes still trying to finish it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 17, 2009, 10:35:49 PM
O'Neill fo you have some sort of speed/distance watch (not sure of the technical term) that tells you how fast or how far you have run ?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on June 17, 2009, 10:39:04 PM
I'm a regular long distance runner. The problem is, that it has slowed me down from running at speed. Has anyone any idea how to pick up the anti as regards speed or do they not go hand in hand. I really need it for  Hurling. I was thinking cutting out so many miles? Is this the way to go..

start with Speed endurance for a few weeks.
Then full sprints, short sharp work
You should find yourself quicker after that.
PS Dolly in in my early to mid 20's   :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 17, 2009, 10:40:42 PM
It's an app on the iphone called fitnio (you can see it on fitnio.com).

It tracks your run by gps and whilst running it tells you your distance, speed and time.
When you are finished it uploads the data onto the website and you can see a print out of your route, your split times for each mile, a graph of your average speed and inclines/declines, calories etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 17, 2009, 10:41:50 PM
Good excuse for an iphone then  :D

Sounds like a nifty application.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 17, 2009, 10:43:22 PM
Wee bit disappointed with the Lisburn 10k tonight. Did it in 56 mins. Was around 25mins for 5k and planned to step it up between 4 and 6 miles. At 4 miles stepped up to 8.5 mph and felt good. Hit the wall at 4.5 miles during a smallish hill climb. Slowed right down and never picked it up again. Also made the mistake at stopping at a water point for a swig. The last 1k was a feckin tragedy. Much work to do yet. Still want to break 50mins by the end of the summer.

Also made the mistake at starting towards the back of the field. It took a mile before you could run at a decent pace due to the amount of feckin grannies. Must've been over 2000 doing it.

You feel slightly better after you've had a drink and in your car when you see hordes still trying to finish it!
You're not far away O'Neill. Do you do any incline work in training? I'm gonna have to pull the finger out as I've a wedding suit to get into in 4 weeks!

Dunno if you replied but I was asking what sort of heart rate monitor you had?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 17, 2009, 10:47:29 PM
www.fitnio.com doesn't seem to work.

Going to try and become competent doing 5k runs in 20-25 3 times a week for next month then build it up to 10k runs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 17, 2009, 10:51:23 PM
No specific incline work - just really whatever hill I meet. Also, haven't done any interval stuff either. Not training enough really.

It's a boyo I strap around under my chest. It syncs itself up to a watch that comes with it. It simply tells you your heart rate when you run.

It's called a dsx heart rate monitor - http://www.shopwiki.co.uk/Dsx+Heart+Rate+Monitor?sb=1

I stole it out of school when the head of PE was in hospital.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 17, 2009, 10:55:10 PM
www.fitnio.com doesn't seem to work.

Going to try and become competent doing 5k runs in 20-25 3 times a week for next month then build it up to 10k runs.

Yes, the site seems to be down right now - hope it's not terminal.

http://www.perivision.net/wordpress/?p=464
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 17, 2009, 11:35:46 PM
Baile an tuaigh do intervals and they'll help you...

If you want to keep the distances up then do pyramid intervals - say for example 3 minutes fast, 2 minutes fast, 1 minute fast with a rest in between. If not just batter out 30 second or closeintervals.

I bought a garmin 405 recently. They're a great job but dear at £200. Got the HRM as well as I'm going to start using it for the long runs.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: The squinted eye on June 17, 2009, 11:42:53 PM
I did Nenagh triathlon, didnt find it too bad but I had borrowed a bike for the day so only used exercise bike till then. Had tried to run off the bike effects by doing "brick work"sessions (straight from the bike into run) but it still took me ages to get over the effects of the bike, legs were like lead even though I was feeling pretty good at that stage. I have only swam for about a year now, I got a swimming dvd called Total Immersion - Freestyle about 5 months ago and the swimming has come on in leaps and bounds since I got it. I am not noticably faster but i take way less strokes to get there so I can swim fairly long distances now and not be shagged after. Google it.............I got it on pirate bay, racing Tri Athlone next looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 18, 2009, 12:14:15 AM
The fcukers have me down at 58 on the website. That probably includes waiting for a minute and a half at the start before actually moving.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: stevo-08 on June 18, 2009, 08:39:28 AM
I did Nenagh triathlon, didnt find it too bad but I had borrowed a bike for the day so only used exercise bike till then. Had tried to run off the bike effects by doing "brick work"sessions (straight from the bike into run) but it still took me ages to get over the effects of the bike, legs were like lead even though I was feeling pretty good at that stage. I have only swam for about a year now, I got a swimming dvd called Total Immersion - Freestyle about 5 months ago and the swimming has come on in leaps and bounds since I got it. I am not noticably faster but i take way less strokes to get there so I can swim fairly long distances now and not be shagged after. Google it.............I got it on pirate bay, racing Tri Athlone next looking forward to it!

I got the very same DVD (well, actually I downloaded it through torrents). Also the tri club in my area had pool swims every friday night, and the instructor had spent weeks in the US perfecting the TI method. He was already a top class swimmer anyway (always first to finish the swim in mulloughmore and rosses point) but reckoned TI improved him big time. So he was trying to teach us this new method. I've definitely improved alot on the swim (as you say it allows you to swim long distances without getting too tired), but it's still my weak point by a long way.

The 5k in mulloughmore is a tough little run - straight from Bike onto a tough uphill for nearly half the route. Downhill then but another slight uphill to finish. Have already done it in 22-23mins but during a triathlon, im sure it'll be a different story, will find out saturday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theskull1 on June 18, 2009, 09:24:44 AM
The fcukers have me down at 58 on the website. That probably includes waiting for a minute and a half at the start before actually moving.

For a while I though he was a she

The times have now been updated
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 18, 2009, 01:03:17 PM
The fcukers have me down at 58 on the website. That probably includes waiting for a minute and a half at the start before actually moving.

For a while I though he was a she

The times have now been updated

That's more like it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on June 18, 2009, 01:05:20 PM
The fcukers have me down at 58 on the website. That probably includes waiting for a minute and a half at the start before actually moving.

For a while I though he was a she

The times have now been updated

That's more like it!


what was your time?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on June 18, 2009, 01:29:50 PM
The fcukers have me down at 58 on the website. That probably includes waiting for a minute and a half at the start before actually moving.

For a while I though he was a she

The times have now been updated

That's more like it!


what was your time?

56 something. Shite enough but probably fair enough for what I'm doing. Need to step up the roadwork. Would like to break 50 by the end of the summer.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: naka on June 18, 2009, 01:38:18 PM
wouldnt worry about the web time, i had a watch which timed me at  just over 50 mins yet the web had me at just over 51 mins
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Main Street on June 18, 2009, 01:46:34 PM
I wouldn't want to pee on anybody's parade and not in a situation where honest effort was made but are you talking about 10km or 10 miles in the time of 56 minutes?



Title: Re: Running
Post by: naka on June 18, 2009, 03:39:51 PM
10k
Title: Re: Running
Post by: jjjshabadoojnr on June 18, 2009, 05:51:40 PM

I got the very same DVD (well, actually I downloaded it through torrents). Also the tri club in my area had pool swims every friday night, and the instructor had spent weeks in the US perfecting the TI method. He was already a top class swimmer anyway (always first to finish the swim in mulloughmore and rosses point) but reckoned TI improved him big time. So he was trying to teach us this new method. I've definitely improved alot on the swim (as you say it allows you to swim long distances without getting too tired), but it's still my weak point by a long way.

The 5k in mulloughmore is a tough little run - straight from Bike onto a tough uphill for nearly half the route. Downhill then but another slight uphill to finish. Have already done it in 22-23mins but during a triathlon, im sure it'll be a different story, will find out saturday.
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Im doing the Mullagh Tri myself on Saturday Steve. First one, getting pretty aprehensive now as I hav never swam in a large group before. Bracing myself for shoulders, elbows and feet in the head!! What time are you hoping for? Obviously weather dependant, but weather promised good, stiff westerly wind predicted though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: stevo-08 on June 18, 2009, 08:59:00 PM

I got the very same DVD (well, actually I downloaded it through torrents). Also the tri club in my area had pool swims every friday night, and the instructor had spent weeks in the US perfecting the TI method. He was already a top class swimmer anyway (always first to finish the swim in mulloughmore and rosses point) but reckoned TI improved him big time. So he was trying to teach us this new method. I've definitely improved alot on the swim (as you say it allows you to swim long distances without getting too tired), but it's still my weak point by a long way.

The 5k in mulloughmore is a tough little run - straight from Bike onto a tough uphill for nearly half the route. Downhill then but another slight uphill to finish. Have already done it in 22-23mins but during a triathlon, im sure it'll be a different story, will find out saturday.

Im doing the Mullagh Tri myself on Saturday Steve. First one, getting pretty aprehensive now as I hav never swam in a large group before. Bracing myself for shoulders, elbows and feet in the head!! What time are you hoping for? Obviously weather dependant, but weather promised good, stiff westerly wind predicted though.


Time??? jaysus, im not really sure, really slow on the swim. If i did it in 1hr40 (25 swim, 45 bike, 25 run + few mins in transitions), then i'd be delighted. But it's my first tri, so in truth could take me anywhere between 1h40 - 2hrs.

Dont worry bout westerly wind, mulloughmore is well sheltered so expect a calm enough swim. Although they f**ked up the start times and the tide will be completely out, so you could be running for 200m in shallow waters at the start. At first i thought that would be good cos im a weak swimmer, but i tried running into the water during the week and it takes alot out of you. So if you see somebody taking a nice slow walk at the back of the group, that'll be me...

What sort of time do you think you'll get??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: jjjshabadoojnr on June 19, 2009, 09:04:01 AM

I got the very same DVD (well, actually I downloaded it through torrents). Also the tri club in my area had pool swims every friday night, and the instructor had spent weeks in the US perfecting the TI method. He was already a top class swimmer anyway (always first to finish the swim in mulloughmore and rosses point) but reckoned TI improved him big time. So he was trying to teach us this new method. I've definitely improved alot on the swim (as you say it allows you to swim long distances without getting too tired), but it's still my weak point by a long way.

The 5k in mulloughmore is a tough little run - straight from Bike onto a tough uphill for nearly half the route. Downhill then but another slight uphill to finish. Have already done it in 22-23mins but during a triathlon, im sure it'll be a different story, will find out saturday.

Im doing the Mullagh Tri myself on Saturday Steve. First one, getting pretty aprehensive now as I hav never swam in a large group before. Bracing myself for shoulders, elbows and feet in the head!! What time are you hoping for? Obviously weather dependant, but weather promised good, stiff westerly wind predicted though.


Time??? jaysus, im not really sure, really slow on the swim. If i did it in 1hr40 (25 swim, 45 bike, 25 run + few mins in transitions), then i'd be delighted. But it's my first tri, so in truth could take me anywhere between 1h40 - 2hrs.

Dont worry bout westerly wind, mulloughmore is well sheltered so expect a calm enough swim. Although they f**ked up the start times and the tide will be completely out, so you could be running for 200m in shallow waters at the start. At first i thought that would be good cos im a weak swimmer, but i tried running into the water during the week and it takes alot out of you. So if you see somebody taking a nice slow walk at the back of the group, that'll be me...

What sort of time do you think you'll get??

Jesus I dont know what time to expect. Anywhere between 1.30 and 1.25. All very well doing good times training for the individual components, but different putting them togetehr. Takes serious amount of time for my legs to loosen up following the bike. Only hitting my natural stride near the last 2 k of the run. Can do 16 mins, 42 mins 21 mins on events individually but sure we will see. Would love to break the 1.25 mark.
Only live up the road from Mullagh and if the wind stays in the direction its going now the first half of the bike will be a complete bitch. Hope the weather changes form what we have this morning!! See the guy steamed in the pier head after the race , that il be me!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 20, 2009, 01:13:33 AM
I'd love to do that tri ^ (I've never done one before) but I'm a very poor swimmer, do they allow arm bands ?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: hardstation on June 20, 2009, 01:18:54 AM
I'd love to do that tri ^ (I've never done one before) but I'm a very poor swimmer, do they allow arm bands ?
I asked the same question. They said, "Whatever floats your boat".
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 20, 2009, 01:20:36 AM
I'd love to do that tri ^ (I've never done one before) but I'm a very poor swimmer, do they allow arm bands ?
I asked the same question. They said, "Whatever floats your boat".

Excellent! The missus/blow-up doll is coming then.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrones own on June 20, 2009, 05:26:52 AM
I wouldn't want to pee on anybody's parade and not in a situation where honest effort was made but are you talking about 10km or 10 miles in the time of 56 minutes?





What sort of a question is that......is it Monaghan or Mozambique you're from  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: stevo-08 on June 21, 2009, 04:50:38 PM
If i did it in 1hr40 (25 swim, 45 bike, 25 run + few mins in transitions), then i'd be delighted. But it's my first tri, so in truth could take me anywhere between 1h40 - 2hrs.

Well, I completed the course in 1hr 28mins (23 swim, 40 T1+Bike, 1.26 T2, 23 Run).
Absolutely delighted with that. The swim as expected was a disaster, but huge room for improvement.

How did you get on jjjshabadoo??

Great days craic and very well organised. Roll on Ballina in 3 weeks, which is an easier route so hopefully I can better my time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 22, 2009, 10:21:39 PM
Steve-08 looks like we'll be in direction competition, u'll find the swim in Ballina way easier, with the current, i took 2 minutes off my time between kilcock and athy even though athy was 750m and kilcock was only 500m.

Dennisthemenace you'd be amazed the difference a wetsuit makes, in the sea you can stand up and do nothing and still float, its unbelievable, i'm not the best threader of water but its no bother with this
Title: Re: Running
Post by: stevo-08 on June 22, 2009, 11:12:56 PM
Steve-08 looks like we'll be in direction competition, u'll find the swim in Ballina way easier, with the current, i took 2 minutes off my time between kilcock and athy even though athy was 750m and kilcock was only 500m.

ah, nothing like a healthy bit of Sligo Mayo competition to add a bit of spice to the event. ;)  Hope your right about the swim, I thought I'd never get out of that pond in Mulloughmore. At one stage I think I was heading way out to sea.

Anyway, hopefully the ballina event is as enjoyable as mulloughmore. Really looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 22, 2009, 11:16:44 PM


ah, nothing like a healthy bit of Sligo Mayo competition to add a bit of spice to the event. ;) 

Be the only this year  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: stevo-08 on June 22, 2009, 11:25:07 PM


ah, nothing like a healthy bit of Sligo Mayo competition to add a bit of spice to the event. ;) 

Be the only this year  ;D

 :D :D
ah, dont throw in the towel just yet. I think yiz will give us a bit of a game in the connacht final  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on June 23, 2009, 09:02:43 AM
guys i would love to get my ass in gear and train for at least a half marathon (i feel a full marathon may be a bit much to start with). does either the dublin or belfast marathons offer a half marathon registration?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: naka on June 23, 2009, 10:22:37 AM
guys i would love to get my ass in gear and train for at least a half marathon (i feel a full marathon may be a bit much to start with). does either the dublin or belfast marathons offer a half marathon registration?
a good start is the armagh 10 mile which is towards the end of sept /early oct,
it takes place on a sunday morning  and th eroute takes you through the countryside close to navan fort
Title: Re: Running
Post by: jjjshabadoojnr on June 26, 2009, 04:10:23 PM
If i did it in 1hr40 (25 swim, 45 bike, 25 run + few mins in transitions), then i'd be delighted. But it's my first tri, so in truth could take me anywhere between 1h40 - 2hrs.

Well, I completed the course in 1hr 28mins (23 swim, 40 T1+Bike, 1.26 T2, 23 Run).
Absolutely delighted with that. The swim as expected was a disaster, but huge room for improvement.

How did you get on jjjshabadoo??

Great days craic and very well organised. Roll on Ballina in 3 weeks, which is an easier route so hopefully I can better my time.

Jasus fair play stevo 08, you got on better than you expected. If you could get swim time down youd be flyin! I came in just ahead of ya, i thought i could hear hooves and flared nostrils coming up by the gatelodge. Got just under 1hr 27 mins. Swim 18 mins T1 and Bike 44,  Run 22.5. Nearly gave up on the swim. Got to first buoy feeling good , when I eventually looked up found out I had drifted off course by a good thirty metres  heading into shore!!! panic set in and started thrashing like a lunatic. Swallowed several mouthfulls of saltwater. Then managed to spend id say three minutes in transition, legs like jelly. Running out with me bike and marshal turned me back cause I forgot my Number belt!! Just wanted to give up there and then. Only started feeling good again about half way through the run. All in all very enjoyable experience!! Will know what to expect for the next one now. Hopefully wont let the nerves get the better of me and spend less time on the jacks before next one!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on June 26, 2009, 08:20:26 PM
The fcukers have me down at 58 on the website. That probably includes waiting for a minute and a half at the start before actually moving.
If you look at the results you will see 2 times.  00:58:44 and 00:56:53. The first is the time from when the gun went, the second is the chip time recorded from when you crossed the start line.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: stevo-08 on June 26, 2009, 11:19:29 PM

Jasus fair play stevo 08, you got on better than you expected. If you could get swim time down youd be flyin! I came in just ahead of ya, i thought i could hear hooves and flared nostrils coming up by the gatelodge. Got just under 1hr 27 mins. Swim 18 mins T1 and Bike 44,  Run 22.5. Nearly gave up on the swim. Got to first buoy feeling good , when I eventually looked up found out I had drifted off course by a good thirty metres  heading into shore!!! panic set in and started thrashing like a lunatic. Swallowed several mouthfulls of saltwater. Then managed to spend id say three minutes in transition, legs like jelly. Running out with me bike and marshal turned me back cause I forgot my Number belt!! Just wanted to give up there and then. Only started feeling good again about half way through the run. All in all very enjoyable experience!! Will know what to expect for the next one now. Hopefully wont let the nerves get the better of me and spend less time on the jacks before next one!!

Cheers for that, Yea was well delighted with the time. My goal for next year is to improve big time on the swim, no reason why I cant do that in under 20mins. I know how you felt about drifting off course - I kept doing that in all the training swims, so my plan for the tri was to look up every few strokes to make sure I was heading the right direction. But goggles fogged up and couldnt see a thing, I ended up stopping every few metres to make sure I wasnt miles off course. Nearly last out of the water but must have overtaken half the field on the bike, i just put the foot down.

Thats a very impressive time you got especially after the panic in the swim. Fair play.

As you say, with that bit of experience behind us we'll be much better prepared next year - and we'll rip the course apart  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on June 27, 2009, 01:57:55 PM
wet the goggles & then a little bit of spit, stops the fog
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 27, 2009, 02:11:13 PM
Lurganblue dublin has a half in september. I'm contemplating doing it if I'm injury free.

Belfast has no half. Larne and Omagh have half marathons close to the belfast one. Derry has one in september the week before dublin too. There's also an ards half marathon but I've heard scrabo may be on it so it's best avoided if that's the case... (Winning time 23 minutes for a 3k race up it which tels the story)

Check out this site for fixtures:
http://www.niathletics.org/ (http://www.niathletics.org/)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 12, 2009, 04:51:00 PM
How'd u go yesterday steve? Was hoping for sub 1:20, so was more than a little disappointed with 1:27
Title: Re: Running
Post by: stevo-08 on July 12, 2009, 05:58:35 PM
Was very happy Mayo4Sam, did it in 1:21 dead - swim 15:22, cycle 37:43, run 24:50. Although the official time had me down as 1:28 - Myself & my wife wanted to do the event together but we were in different waves. So i decided to start in wave 2 instead of wave 1. It messed up my official time but didnt matter as it meant that we crossed the finish line together, which was just great.

great day and well organised. blessed with the weather. i was marshalling at the all ireland metal man triathlon in rosses point this morning and didnt envy the athletes - absolutely horrendous conditions for the 1500m swim.

1:27 is still a very good time M4S, although i can understand your disappointed if you were aiming for an impressive sub 1:20. The cycle out to bonniconlon was tough, and i was also very disappointed with my run time - i thought we ran at a good pace so was surprised when I saw my time as 24:50. Maybe it's longer that 5k, i dont know.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneboi on July 14, 2009, 05:35:46 PM
I have been clocking up the miles in the past month to 6 weeks and was interested in entering a 10k race pretty soon. Does anyone know of any races coming up during the summer that I could enter? Have tried searching the net for upcoming races but couldn't find many for Northern Ireland. I did see Cookstown have a half marathon at the end of this month but that will probably come too soon for me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 14, 2009, 06:31:33 PM
I suppose it depends on the area you're from but there  seems to be things like crawsfordsburn trail race, a 10k in downpatrick and a few 5 milers about the place.

You've two options for fixtures:
1. niathletics http://www.niathletics.org/opencontent/default.asp?itemId=15 (http://www.niathletics.org/opencontent/default.asp?itemId=15)
2. nimra (not for the faint hearted) http://www.nimra.org.uk/calendar.asp (http://www.nimra.org.uk/calendar.asp) (snowdown international is coming up...)

I'm not sure there'd be many races on, apart from maybe in local summer festivals or the like, which aren't on these calendars.

The summer from July on can be quiet enough.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Quagmire on July 14, 2009, 09:21:18 PM
There's a half marathon and 10km fun run on in Derry on the 12th Sept Tyroneboi, there was chat about it in work the other day. I think the details are on the City website, I don't know the address but there's always google for that if you were interested?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: sam03/05 on July 14, 2009, 09:31:53 PM

http://cookstownhalfmarathon.co.uk/default.aspx

cookstown half marathon 26th july
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneboi on July 14, 2009, 11:17:47 PM
There's a half marathon and 10km fun run on in Derry on the 12th Sept Tyroneboi, there was chat about it in work the other day. I think the details are on the City website, I don't know the address but there's always google for that if you were interested?

Thanks for that. Might enter that one or else the Dublin Half Marathon which is two weeks after the Waterside run. Think having a race to focus on will be better because it can be quite tough to get out running in the evenings after coming in from work.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Quagmire on July 14, 2009, 11:33:50 PM
I know what you mean, I find running very tedious if you're just doing it for the sake of it. You need the focus. Good luck with it anyway!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: hardstation on July 14, 2009, 11:44:25 PM
There is a fun run as part of the Feile in Belfast, I believe. It is a Gaeltacht quarter run, which in truth should be about a yard, but they have managed to make it a 5 mile run. Jogging on the spot, I thought but no. Casement to Dunville park and back again. For anyone in Belfast who fancies a wee run. I don't know the details. Just noticed it in the booklet.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 15, 2009, 12:50:36 AM
Details hardstation you big tease.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on July 22, 2009, 09:14:05 PM
lads/lassies; back to this oul heart rate thingy;

used it today for the first time at gym; goin by the figures to be in the fat burnin zone my heart rate neded to stay round the high 120's; when i started in no time at all, i had to lower the speed on the treadmill to round 7.5kph; now im by no means a fitness fanatic (6ft, 15st, 36yrs old) but i can comfortably run round the old 12kph mark, getting up to 13kph for round 15,20 mins once ive done a week or two (7.5-8min miles approx);

basically am i getting the figures wrong? It seemed wile slow to be at when im used to pushin it a bit more than this; did 20mins on the bike then too, also goin a fair bit slower than usual.  Am i on the right tracks?  fat loss is my initial goal, ill happily take things outside once ive a stone off;

feedback,comments please :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on July 22, 2009, 09:58:49 PM
I think that everyone's maximum bpm is different, so you might be a bit higher than that. My running bpm was around 160 2 months ago (170 when stepping it up a bit). Now it's around 145-150. It seems the fitter I get the lower my average bpm. In saying that, ran for the first time tonight in over a fortnight and had a cardiac arrest after 2 miles. You can fairly lose it in a short space of time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Trevor Hill on July 22, 2009, 10:11:08 PM
Has anyone ever suffered from heel spurs? I assume I have got this from mountain running/walking over the last 6 months. I haven't had a proper diagnosis yet, will probably get to see a doctor next week. Just wondering how to get rid of the pain in the meantime.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on July 22, 2009, 10:19:07 PM
cheers o'neill; would agree with the losin it quickly theory; hadnt been in a week or two;
i would anticipate bein able to run a bit faster at this bpm in a week or two, but would guess it would still be a fair bit short of what i can do when i feel i am pushin myself;

like i say, burnin fat is my main goal at present; should i stick with the slow (v slow) runs in the meantime, or just keep pushing things to my limits?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrones own on July 23, 2009, 01:45:11 AM
cheers o'neill; would agree with the losin it quickly theory; hadnt been in a week or two;
i would anticipate bein able to run a bit faster at this bpm in a week or two, but would guess it would still be a fair bit short of what i can do when i feel i am pushin myself;

like i say, burnin fat is my main goal at present; should i stick with the slow (v slow) runs in the meantime, or just keep pushing things to my limits?

You'll have to vamp up that pace a bit for fat burning purposes, 120 bpm won't get it done.
As O'Neill says, everyone's max will be different but for your age and weight 120 is quite low
With the calculation i use i have you at between 128 and 147 approx 70-80% of you max
on day's you want to go longer distances take the pace down a bit and vice versa.
Getting yourself into the hills (cross country) when you feel ready will take the weight off
fairly quickly.. or get the auld ten speed out of course and alternate your workouts.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 23, 2009, 09:16:25 AM
any of you lads doing gaelforce this year?
Title: Tyrones own
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on July 23, 2009, 02:13:10 PM
Tyrones Own, thanks for this;

i used a calculation 207 - 0.7times my age(36) which equalled 182, then 70% of this was 127.4; is this not correct?

i'd love to push it a bit faster, and can do so; just curious as to the whole science of it that by goin at a pretty slow rate, i was burning fat (then the fitness part could come when the fat was "gone")

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 23, 2009, 02:31:35 PM
Trevor heel spurs sound to be like plantar fiscalis...

I assume you have problems with the base of your feet? The best way to treat this is to get a tennis ball and when you're watching tv or whatever take your shoes off and roll the tennis ball about with the painful part of your foot. I had mild plantar fiscalis and got rid of it myself by doing this while still training.

The heart rate thing is hard to stick to. I would read runners world a lot and there is a section on it about what heart rate training you should be doing. There are many varying theories on it. The one I read which someone had used, had theory behind and worked was 180 - your age. If you're unfit take away 5, if you're reasonably fit leave as is and if you're very fit add 5.

I find it very hard training under a heart rate of 150.

What's gael force?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrones own on July 23, 2009, 06:01:29 PM
Quote
i used a calculation 207 - 0.7times my age(36) which equalled 182, then 70% of this was 127.4; is this not correct?

Yes that is correct although I use the 220 instead of the 207.

Quote
i'd love to push it a bit faster, and can do so; just curious as to the whole science of it that by goin at a pretty slow rate, i was burning fat (then the fitness part could come when the fat was "gone")

No in my opinion it's the opposite, running at around the 120 BPM pace will through time build
a degree of fitness alright but to get the kind of results you're looking for it comes down to the
old "no pain no gain" deal I'm afraid.
You don't sound like you're unfit at all so don't be afraid to step it up a bit, see how you feel.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: fred the red on July 23, 2009, 06:10:44 PM
Lads

can anyone recommend any suitable footwear for a bitta road running?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Trevor Hill on July 23, 2009, 06:59:05 PM
Lads

can anyone recommend any suitable footwear for a bitta road running?

Asics gel kinsei 2s
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 23, 2009, 08:45:41 PM
There are 3 types of trainer:

neutral - for those who don't overpronate
stability - for mild over-pronators
motion control - for extreme over pronators

check which one of these you are and then asics or mizuno are usually your best bet. running shops like up and running will determine this by doing a gait analysis.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: fred the red on July 23, 2009, 10:11:30 PM
There are 3 types of trainer:

neutral - for those who don't overpronate
stability - for mild over-pronators
motion control - for extreme over pronators

check which one of these you are and then asics or mizuno are usually your best bet. running shops like up and running will determine this by doing a gait analysis.

i under pronate, what would you recommend for this?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 24, 2009, 02:47:20 PM
Neutral are recommended. (Just looked on google) Under pronation is called suprination I think...

I use asics. Just bought a pair of gel cumulus 11 of start fitness.

It's the cheapest place about for running stuff.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: fred the red on July 24, 2009, 10:27:29 PM
Neutral are recommended. (Just looked on google) Under pronation is called suprination I think...

I use asics. Just bought a pair of gel cumulus 11 of start fitness.

It's the cheapest place about for running stuff.

Cheers mo chara
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 11, 2009, 03:10:28 PM
So any of u doing gael force? Www.gaelforcewest.ie Only 2 weeks away now & really looking forward to it, hoping to knock 20 mins off last yrs time & go sub 5 hrs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Trevor Hill on October 03, 2009, 12:45:19 PM
Trevor heel spurs sound to be like plantar fiscalis...

I assume you have problems with the base of your feet? The best way to treat this is to get a tennis ball and when you're watching tv or whatever take your shoes off and roll the tennis ball about with the painful part of your foot. I had mild plantar fiscalis and got rid of it myself by doing this while still training.

Tried using the tennis ball and although it eased the pain somewhat it came back after any prolonged running. Finally gave in and went to a doctor who after a course of anti-inflammatorys has given me an injection of steroids into my heel. Its agony at the minute, but hopefully this will cure it.
Looking forward to some light running next week, after I have been to the podiatrist.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 20, 2009, 11:10:26 PM

Wonder has anybody had a ganglion[cyst] removed from a foot? Just wondering about recovery and stuff. Have been doing serious running -for me- and I would nt like a long lay-off. It s on my right instep where I had a metatarsal break and its been there years but is getting progressively worse. Now about the size of a big grape. I cant kick anything heavier than a balloon which is a bitch cause the 5-a-side is gone and I cant even kick about with the kids. Thankfully it does nt bother me running. Yet anyway.  But I may be on borrowed time there too as the extra training seems to be making it bigger. Should I leave well-enough alone?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Trevor Hill on October 25, 2009, 07:29:40 PM
Should I leave well-enough alone?

Get it looked at. It wont get better on its own.

I had my first good run planned for yesterday after a long lay off. Did everything right, plenty of stretching beforehand, chaged my route so I ran downhill first to loosen up the legs, everything was going well until I twisted my ankle. Looks like at least another 2 weeks off.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on October 25, 2009, 08:58:30 PM
Should I leave well-enough alone?

Get it looked at. It wont get better on its own.

I had my first good run planned for yesterday after a long lay off. Did everything right, plenty of stretching beforehand, chaged my route so I ran downhill first to loosen up the legs, everything was going well until I twisted my ankle. Looks like at least another 2 weeks off.

Twisted ankle? That's noting to do with warm up etc. That's just stupidity.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2009, 09:11:04 PM
That's a tad harsh Orior...

How did you twist it running? Were you running off-road?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Trevor Hill on October 25, 2009, 09:17:29 PM
Yes, I run through a forest. I used to start at the bottom and run up, but I developed plantar fasciitis, apparently I wasn't stretching enough, so I changed my route and went downhill first, so I was well loosened up for the uphill part of the run. Everything was going fine until a rabbit ran out in front of me. It isn't as bad as I feared yesterday, but its a kick in the teeth after being out for a couple of months.
I hate running on the road.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on October 25, 2009, 09:27:32 PM
I would say that you shouldnt be running at a speed which is outside your ability to control motion. The fitter and stronger you are, then the quicker you can run.

For example, I would unfit people slip and hurt themselves on ice more often that fit people.

That said, it is a bit unfortunate when a rabbit jumps out, and I assume, you momentarily loose concentration.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2009, 09:32:42 PM
Would plantar fiscalis not come from more of a biomechanical problem than a lack of stretching?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on October 25, 2009, 09:46:38 PM
What's everyone favourite distance and their personal best time?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: hardstation on October 25, 2009, 09:58:59 PM
What's everyone favourite distance and their personal best time?
0.5mm
14.32 secs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on October 25, 2009, 10:02:58 PM
A mile.

Yet to break 7.30 mins.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on October 25, 2009, 10:11:34 PM
1984 - Belfast Marathon - 3 hrs 15 mins
1985 - Newry 10k - 34mins 20 secs  :)
1985 - North Belfast 15 mile - 1 hour 32 mins
2000 - Centenary mile - 6 mins 0 secs  :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Trevor Hill on October 25, 2009, 10:54:23 PM
Would plantar fiscalis not come from more of a biomechanical problem than a lack of stretching?

We think it is caused by a very tight calf muscle in my case, though that may be a sypmtom of something else, possibly lower back pain.
I have been stretching 3 or 4 times a day over the last 3 weeks and it has improved immeasurably. I have also changed my route to allow my legs to loosen up even more before running uphill.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 25, 2009, 11:05:09 PM
1 mile: 4:51

5k: 18:12

5 mile: 32:25 (1 done when unfit so wouldn't read too much into it)

10k: 39 dead

Favourite distance 10k.

Nothing to rival Orior's there but 39 will be beat in 10k soon and half marathons and full marathons to be done next year...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: RedandGreenSniper on October 26, 2009, 12:55:41 AM
1984 - Belfast Marathon - 3 hrs 15 mins
1985 - Newry 10k - 34mins 20 secs  :)
1985 - North Belfast 15 mile - 1 hour 32 mins
2000 - Centenary mile - 6 mins 0 secs  :(

Thats serious going Orior, that 10k time. Doing my first race in two weeks, a local 10k and aiming to beat 50 mins for it. Could be a struggle but really getting the running bug I must admit. And harder to get injured than football, especially when I pull something practically every time I kick the ball  :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on October 26, 2009, 12:59:02 AM
1984 - Belfast Marathon - 3 hrs 15 mins
1985 - Newry 10k - 34mins 20 secs  :)
1985 - North Belfast 15 mile - 1 hour 32 mins
2000 - Centenary mile - 6 mins 0 secs  :(

Orior that was some pounding to run a marathon in that time. Belfast is very hilly as well which makes your 3 hr 15 mins even more impresive. If that was a down hill course you might have beat the 3 hr mark. Ran Chicago two weeks ago as a bandit. Very enjoyable marathon but not one for a PB.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on October 26, 2009, 08:48:27 AM
Those were in my harrier days, after I gave up the football (or rather it gave me up).

I was doing 40-60 mile a week. I cycled to work and did a 6 or 8 training run at lunch time. Then I joined County Antrim harriers, and would train with them one night a week, and cross country on a Saturday. Managed it all for two years then got injured and never recovered.

Nowadays I can only manage 3 mile in 24 mins.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theskull1 on October 26, 2009, 09:43:58 AM
must have been a bad injury orior to have not come back from? Did you get gang raped on a forest run?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on October 26, 2009, 10:23:18 AM
must have been a bad injury orior to have not come back from? Did you get gang raped on a forest run?


Yes and yes. (A type of stress fracture, and I got married)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 26, 2009, 02:59:42 PM
You do any running skull? I think I may have spotted you at a few races if I have your identity right...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on October 26, 2009, 03:47:43 PM
That's my mission now. Probably end in tears but going to find out how fast I can possibly do a 1-miler, with a mid-30s body ravished with stout and fries.

So 6mph = 10 mins
12 mph = 5 mins
9mph = 7.5 mins

I cannot see myself breaking 7, ever.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on October 26, 2009, 03:52:19 PM
O'Neill -  8mph = 7.5 mins a mile.

It's all down to practice unfortunately, and lots of it. I'm as slow as any man who ever walked a football field but can get down to 6.5 min miles for 3-4 miles when I put my mind and body to it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on October 26, 2009, 03:57:23 PM
Sorry, so 9mph = 6.5 min, 8.6 = 7?

Will try 8.6 tomorrow (treadmill) and she how far I get without keeling.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 26, 2009, 04:10:39 PM
What's everyone favourite distance and their personal best time?
0.5mm
14.32 secs.

Hardtation this is a question about running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 26, 2009, 04:16:07 PM
I ll try to put these times in some sort of context. I never ran a race until this year until I wound back my involvement in football. Mid forties and I drink too much and still smoke a bit as well.

10k 46.40
4 miles 28.50
half-marathon 1hr 53 - I calved badly at the end of that one. Had only done 10 miles in training.
I m jacking the fags and aiming to improve those times. I know now I ll have to do a marathon. A year ago that would have seemed less likely than a trip to the moon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 26, 2009, 04:18:33 PM
It'a practise to a point.

Basically train your cardio system first and then worry about the speed from there once it's trained.

You need to learn to run slow before you can run fast...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 26, 2009, 04:19:40 PM
21 years ago I ran a 5 mile road race in just under 30 minutes.

Now I would need cardiac massage after 30 metres.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bcarrier on October 26, 2009, 05:44:36 PM
Moysider your times are good ...running your age for 10k is a good target. I am waiting until I am 50 :).

My running career peaked at U-8 level.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theskull1 on October 26, 2009, 06:15:28 PM
It'a practise to a point.

Basically train your cardio system first and then worry about the speed from there once it's trained.

You need to learn to run slow before you can run fast...

Not according to this article tommy

http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/building-speed-and-endurance (http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/building-speed-and-endurance)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 26, 2009, 09:15:45 PM
Is that not sprinting though skull? I wouldn't be sure you could apply that theory to longer distances...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: RedandGreenSniper on October 26, 2009, 09:35:22 PM
Jaysus Moysider those times put me to shame! Me in my 20s and trying to break 50mins for a 10k and you breaking it with ease! Must be something in the water on the Moy!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theskull1 on October 27, 2009, 12:03:55 AM
It'a practise to a point.

Basically train your cardio system first and then worry about the speed from there once it's trained.

You need to learn to run slow before you can run fast...

Not according to this article tommy

http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/building-speed-and-endurance (http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/building-speed-and-endurance)

Wrong article sorry

http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0004.htm (http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0004.htm)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 27, 2009, 12:23:41 AM
Jaysus Moysider those times put me to shame! Me in my 20s and trying to break 50mins for a 10k and you breaking it with ease! Must be something in the water on the Moy!

I have to improve Sniper. The missus did the marathon comfortably in under 4 hours today and a neighbour who is 68 did it in 3.53.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 27, 2009, 01:16:08 AM
What's everyone favourite distance and their personal best time?
0.5mm
14.32 secs.

That your erection or penetration time?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 27, 2009, 04:21:31 PM
Tempo and intervals are both forms of speedwork though Skull.

I'd say you'd likely cover as much, possibly more, ground in the intervals.

I find intervals only get you so far, well me anyway, without the long runs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Eastern_Pride on October 27, 2009, 04:58:54 PM
A friend of mine found that doing a session of sprints builds up your endurance faster than long distance ever would:

Find a pitch or 100m track.
Sprint 100, jog back, sprint 150, jog back and repeat as much as you can. He then ends up in doing a slow run for about 1k and resting. I knoiw this works for him because he won himself a 10k race by near 8 minutes the other week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theskull1 on October 27, 2009, 05:04:59 PM
You'd need to post up his age and time before that would impress anybody EP. Winning a 10K by eight minutes suggests a very ropey field
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Eastern_Pride on October 27, 2009, 05:10:10 PM
You'd need to post up his age and time before that would impress anybody EP. Winning a 10K by eight minutes suggests a very ropey field
Indeed but himself isn't a full time runner either.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theskull1 on October 27, 2009, 05:19:47 PM
You'd need to post up his age and time before that would impress anybody EP. Winning a 10K by eight minutes suggests a very ropey field
Indeed but himself isn't a full time runner either.

Aye...but I'm just suggesting that to those that want to train properly for these type of things wouldn't be following that anecdotal advice until they knew what he ran it in (taking age and general fitness levels prior to that training regime into consideration)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Eastern_Pride on October 27, 2009, 05:25:37 PM
You'd need to post up his age and time before that would impress anybody EP. Winning a 10K by eight minutes suggests a very ropey field
Indeed but himself isn't a full time runner either.

Aye...but I'm just suggesting that to those that want to train properly for these type of things wouldn't be following that anecdotal advice until they knew what he ran it in (taking age and general fitness levels prior to that training regime into consideration)
Ah I suppose yeah well he was 20/21 in training and did it in about 35minutes. I think I may be setting too hard a training but I've heard it done before.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on October 27, 2009, 09:38:00 PM
You'd need to post up his age and time before that would impress anybody EP. Winning a 10K by eight minutes suggests a very ropey field
Indeed but himself isn't a full time runner either.

Aye...but I'm just suggesting that to those that want to train properly for these type of things wouldn't be following that anecdotal advice until they knew what he ran it in (taking age and general fitness levels prior to that training regime into consideration)

Skull this guy has form.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: RedandGreenSniper on November 03, 2009, 09:09:09 PM
Can I be as bold as to ask for some running advice from some of the board's learned road runners?

I'm planning on running a 10k on Sunday next and have been training for it for about a month. My starting point would have been my fitness levels at the end of an injury ravaged season so I started off doing 3km in 15mins and building myself up gradually twice a week and then twice a week I would run 15mins at a higher pace (13.1km/hr up to 13.5 etc).

My target for the 10k is to do it in 50 minutes. I don't know if I want to do it if I can't break 50 minutes. Anyway I thought I was well on course until I hit the road for the first time in this training spell last Friday (stupid I know). I did a 5km run and did it in 23mins 20secs. Not a bad time but I really struggled at the end. The slopes in the run and the cold air was a big change from the treadmill. So too was having to control your speed yourself!

Anyway I tried an 8km run the following day but cramped up and had to turn back after 2km. So I was unsure of whether I'd be able to do the 10km. I did 10km in 50mins tonight on the treadmill but did find it very tough (the furthest I'd run on the treadmill was 40mins and 8kms the Tues before) and was thinking that if I was on the road I would stop!

So my question - can I realistically hope to do 10km in 50 mins on Sunday? Is it a mental thing with me?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on November 03, 2009, 09:18:52 PM
It'll be no bother to you sniper. The two easiest road runs I've ever done in my life were legs of the Belfast Marathon. You've always got something to aim at, whether it be a distance marker, a landmark, or a person in the distance.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on November 03, 2009, 09:34:33 PM
I wont pretend to know much about running, but i've did 2 10ks in the last while, one in just over 42 m, and that b**tard of a westlink run in 43 and 1/2.

I didnt do that much specific training for them, was playing football, but did a few 5m road runs. I also did a few runs on the treadmill, and I found that I was generally a good bit slower on the treadmill - I think because whereas on the road you can pace yourself better, you're gonna hold yourself back a bit on the treadmill because you want to stay at the same pace for the duration, and dont want to have to stop.

The thinking for my training was just to do the distance, or close to it from the start, and then worry about bringing the time down.

I wouldnt worry too much about the treadmill run. I reckon that you should be well able to do the actual 10k in under 50 min, especially with the adrenalin of the day, and also running beside people. Just dont go off too fast!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on November 03, 2009, 09:37:02 PM
Can I be as bold as to ask for some running advice from some of the board's learned road runners?

I'm planning on running a 10k on Sunday next and have been training for it for about a month. My starting point would have been my fitness levels at the end of an injury ravaged season so I started off doing 3km in 15mins and building myself up gradually twice a week and then twice a week I would run 15mins at a higher pace (13.1km/hr up to 13.5 etc).

My target for the 10k is to do it in 50 minutes. I don't know if I want to do it if I can't break 50 minutes. Anyway I thought I was well on course until I hit the road for the first time in this training spell last Friday (stupid I know). I did a 5km run and did it in 23mins 20secs. Not a bad time but I really struggled at the end. The slopes in the run and the cold air was a big change from the treadmill. So too was having to control your speed yourself!

Anyway I tried an 8km run the following day but cramped up and had to turn back after 2km. So I was unsure of whether I'd be able to do the 10km. I did 10km in 50mins tonight on the treadmill but did find it very tough (the furthest I'd run on the treadmill was 40mins and 8kms the Tues before) and was thinking that if I was on the road I would stop!

So my question - can I realistically hope to do 10km in 50 mins on Sunday? Is it a mental thing with me?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

If you can do 10k on the threadmill, then 10k on the road would be no bother. The threadmill is the most boring of boring things... ever.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on November 03, 2009, 09:48:00 PM
Can I be as bold as to ask for some running advice from some of the board's learned road runners?

I'm planning on running a 10k on Sunday next and have been training for it for about a month. My starting point would have been my fitness levels at the end of an injury ravaged season so I started off doing 3km in 15mins and building myself up gradually twice a week and then twice a week I would run 15mins at a higher pace (13.1km/hr up to 13.5 etc).

My target for the 10k is to do it in 50 minutes. I don't know if I want to do it if I can't break 50 minutes. Anyway I thought I was well on course until I hit the road for the first time in this training spell last Friday (stupid I know). I did a 5km run and did it in 23mins 20secs. Not a bad time but I really struggled at the end. The slopes in the run and the cold air was a big change from the treadmill. So too was having to control your speed yourself!

Anyway I tried an 8km run the following day but cramped up and had to turn back after 2km. So I was unsure of whether I'd be able to do the 10km. I did 10km in 50mins tonight on the treadmill but did find it very tough (the furthest I'd run on the treadmill was 40mins and 8kms the Tues before) and was thinking that if I was on the road I would stop!

So my question - can I realistically hope to do 10km in 50 mins on Sunday? Is it a mental thing with me?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

If you can do 10k on the threadmill, then 10k on the road would be no bother. The threadmill is the most boring of boring things... ever.

try running along that f**king westlink...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: RedandGreenSniper on November 03, 2009, 10:21:03 PM
Cheers lads. The help is greatly appreciated. I'm shattered now after the 10k in the gym but hugely encouraged now after reading yer comments! I'll give it a go I think and see what happens. The mental battle will be the biggest obstacle for me. Need to start concentrating on that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 03, 2009, 10:34:57 PM
It is much easier in a race. People will carry you along and you'll have targets etc. so if you can do it on treadmill I'd be pretty sure you could run it.

I did the Westlink 5k - couldn't stomach 10k of it... Strange feeling running along a 3 or 4 lane motorway on your own. Actually finished 4th in it but there weren't too many in it. One guy appeared out of nowhere - still reckon he cheated and I was top 3 really...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on November 03, 2009, 10:38:06 PM
It is much easier in a race. People will carry you along and you'll have targets etc. so if you can do it on treadmill I'd be pretty sure you could run it.

I did the Westlink 5k - couldn't stomach 10k of it... Strange feeling running along a 3 or 4 lane motorway on your own. Actually finished 4th in it but there weren't too many in it. One guy appeared out of nowhere - still reckon he cheated and I was top 3 really...

Careful - he might be looking over your shoulder now!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on November 03, 2009, 10:40:26 PM
thats good going tommy, what time was that?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 03, 2009, 10:41:48 PM
The 5k was short. It was sub 18 I did but on a measured course my best is 18:12.

There genuinely wasn't very many in it - not as big an achievement as it sounds!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dinny Breen on December 02, 2009, 03:45:10 PM
My boss at home has really taken up running...

Without reading back through this can anyone recommend some decent accessories that one could buy for Christmas?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Canalman on December 02, 2009, 03:55:41 PM
Tip for jogging (which I hate anyway) is to jog away from home until you are shagged, then jog home after a short break (you have no option). Great way of motivating yourself if (like me) that is a problem.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Caid on December 02, 2009, 04:20:12 PM
can anyone recommend some decent accessories that one could buy for Christmas?

Cuff links
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 02, 2009, 04:28:35 PM
Nice race in calry outside sligo town on Saturday at 12pm if anyone is interested. 6km with a bit of a twist, no watches and you predict your time before the race and the person who finishes closest to their prediction wins.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on December 02, 2009, 04:45:05 PM
Tip for jogging (which I hate anyway) is to jog away from home until you are shagged, then jog home after a short break (you have no option). Great way of motivating yourself if (like me) that is a problem.

The last time I did that I got a taxi home and swore I'd never jog again.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on May 13, 2010, 08:34:36 PM
For anybody about the area this weekend that have been doing a bit of training.

The first ever River Moy Half Marathon takes place this Sunday in Ballina. It s a grand course and if weather conditions are reasonable it should n't be too difficult. In fact times should be very good. For slower runners there s plenty of scenery to look at. There are some seriously nice views and a mile or more through a forest pathway. A lot of the runners will be novices.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on July 13, 2010, 08:34:30 AM
Back to the running again - have this app for the phone and the blade on it talks to you regarding pace, time, distance and all that. However, you need earphones to hear her and any earphones I use seem to just fall out. I mightn't have any earlobes. Can anyone recommend earphones for running?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on July 13, 2010, 08:35:57 AM
And nothing like this:

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Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 13, 2010, 08:42:15 AM
Back to the running again - have this app for the phone and the blade on it talks to you regarding pace, time, distance and all that. However, you need earphones to hear her and any earphones I use seem to just fall out. I mightn't have any earlobes. Can anyone recommend earphones for running?
Think this very topic was covered in The Sunday Times In Gear supplement 2 days ago.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on July 13, 2010, 08:43:36 AM
Good stuff - have that somewhere.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on July 13, 2010, 09:02:02 AM
Started training for the Dublin marathon a couple of months ago and had the same problem. I eventually got a good set of earphones from hmv. They're made by skullcandy and loop over your ear. They don't move a bit.

What app did you get?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on July 13, 2010, 09:12:34 AM
Runmeter - http://www.abvio.com/runmeter/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on July 13, 2010, 09:44:03 AM
The running shop in belfast has earphones that hang over the ears. I use them for cycling.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: wanderer on July 13, 2010, 09:56:21 PM

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-PMX80SPORT-ECO-Neckband-Headphones/dp/B001IKKDL2/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1279054490&sr=1-4

Have the older version of these, and are by far the best sports headphones I have bought
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on July 13, 2010, 10:04:25 PM

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-PMX80SPORT-ECO-Neckband-Headphones/dp/B001IKKDL2/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1279054490&sr=1-4

Have the older version of these, and are by far the best sports headphones I have bought

Yes, they're great for cycling too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 13, 2010, 10:16:56 PM
moysider, were u involved in the ballina tri organization?
Brutal day for it, it was torrential during the cycle
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Galwaybhoy on July 13, 2010, 10:32:30 PM
Used to do a bit of running and swimming to keep myself fit but then started Tag Rugby which put an end to that.  As thats ending soon I'll be taking it up again.  Theres an 8k run in Galway next month and I have never took part in any sort of run so I'm thinking of doing that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 13, 2010, 10:59:05 PM
Good stuff - have that somewhere.
In case you lost it I hoked it out.

Best buy were Sony MDR-AS50G (£26) - says they are very good but fragile so aren't to be bucked into a kitbag, you'll need to keep them in their case.

Joint second are 1. Adidas Sennheiser PMX 680 Sports (£45) -  despite some problems these remain the choice for a long, wet winter of marathon training. Problems are foam covers on the ear pads which won't last and the fact that the pads are slightly big.

2. Philips SHS8100/10 (£25) which has best sound quality and noise insulation of those on test. Let down by lack of clothing cable clip and no divide to allow option of shorter link to biceps belt.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on July 13, 2010, 11:20:01 PM
Thanks for that - the young lad had torn it to shreds.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on July 14, 2010, 01:34:30 AM
moysider, were u involved in the ballina tri organization?
Brutal day for it, it was torrential during the cycle

No, I was n't. Bad day for it alright. Unfortunately my swimming isn't up to taking part either. Might work on that because I d love to do it. Sounds like you were in it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: EagleLord on July 14, 2010, 08:25:24 AM
I love to run round the roads, I find it a great stress reliever, but I also just enjoy it anyway. Hard to beat a nice day, plug in the ipod and away on ye go. I often like to just not know where I'm going, I just keep running and taking whatever road I see, did that one day and checked the clock when I came back in, was away for about an hour and 45. Watched 'Without Limits' yesterday too btw, great film if any of you havent seen it before.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mario on July 14, 2010, 09:22:56 AM
Does anyone else get a sore lower back when they run on the roads, I also used to get a pain around my knees but the running shoes have sorted that out. I don't know what it is, i never get it running on grass. Often it stops me running as far as I would like too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: wanderer on July 14, 2010, 07:42:39 PM
Does anyone else get a sore lower back when they run on the roads, I also used to get a pain around my knees but the running shoes have sorted that out. I don't know what it is, i never get it running on grass. Often it stops me running as far as I would like too.

It may sound basic, but it might be your running stance. If you run slightly leaning forward with your forearms more than 90 degrees from your upperarms it might ease off. I had the same sequence of niggles that you describe an thats what works for me
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 14, 2010, 08:03:18 PM
Stretch your back(obviously) and hamstrings out. A lot of lower back problems stem from the hamstrings.

Make sure your trainers have appropriate support for your GAIT too... (check if you pronate or not and get the right shoes accordingly).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 15, 2010, 12:43:07 AM
@Mario, I have similar probs, for me it's my core muscles not being strong enough & hammers over compensate. A good physio will give u simple exercises for the core & it should sort it out.

@ moysider, I only ask cause the cycle route was put on map my cycle by "moysider".
I did it alright, enjoyed the rain on the bike. Imploded on the run, bad shin splints, had to walk it, disaster
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on July 15, 2010, 01:44:23 PM
@Mario, I have similar probs, for me it's my core muscles not being strong enough & hammers over compensate. A good physio will give u simple exercises for the core & it should sort it out.

@ moysider, I only ask cause the cycle route was put on map my cycle by "moysider".
I did it alright, enjoyed the rain on the bike. Imploded on the run, bad shin splints, had to walk it, disaster

Ah yeah, forgot about that. Used my garmin to plot out the run route about 6 weeks ago for them. Didn't do anything for the cycle though. Running off the bike is a b**tard though. A lot struggled on the run. I find that a lot of the triathletes dont like running much and would much prefer the bike and swimming. Some did great training for the run. Repeats of cycling to Killala road and back to the track and running 800 metres on the track. Only way to get used to the wobbly legs. First time I tried running off a bike I almost ran into a tree in the woods :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on July 15, 2010, 02:12:23 PM
I get an awful sore sole on my right foot only after long runs of say 10 miles. The pain is terrible for the rest of the day but then gone the next morning. I own a good pair of running shoes but I take it my foot is wonkey :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Aerlik on July 15, 2010, 03:59:54 PM
Stretch your back(obviously) and hamstrings out. A lot of lower back problems stem from the hamstrings.

Make sure your trainers have appropriate support for your GAIT too... (check if you pronate or not and get the right shoes accordingly).

For the past four years I've been bothered with lower back pain.  It only goes after a bit of cycling to initially warm up the hammys, gluts and lower back.  This week I started running again and have done two 5km runs so far and the back is great.  Also agree that shoes are vital. I use Mizuno Alchemy.  They were expensive but definitely worth it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 16, 2010, 03:04:58 PM
I find it worse after the swim, I'd be falling down with dizziness!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on August 17, 2010, 05:04:50 PM
anyone have a running belt to hold a little water and gels etc? any good recommendations of which ones are best.  for the last few months i've been carrying a bottle of water around with me but it starts to wear on you a bit when doing longer distances
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 17, 2010, 05:14:49 PM
anyone have a running belt to hold a little water and gels etc? any good recommendations of which ones are best.  for the last few months i've been carrying a bottle of water around with me but it starts to wear on you a bit when doing longer distances
You need one of these chaps...

http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDetails.asp?productID=5319 (http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDetails.asp?productID=5319)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on August 17, 2010, 05:27:08 PM
No way am I wearing one of them things Tony  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on August 17, 2010, 07:16:18 PM
Anyone doing gaelforce this weekend?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: take_yer_points on August 17, 2010, 11:21:32 PM
Does anyone use one of those Nike+ sensors with the iPod or iPhone? I play indoor and would like to find out how far I'm running each time. Can the sensor record the distance I've ran without being in close proximity to the iPhone?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on September 12, 2010, 10:25:40 PM
Interesting article In Tribune today

http://www.tribune.ie/sport/other-sport/article/2010/sep/12/back-stage-peter-gunning-foot-and-mouth/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 12, 2010, 11:11:22 PM
Interesting article In Tribune today

http://www.tribune.ie/sport/other-sport/article/2010/sep/12/back-stage-peter-gunning-foot-and-mouth/
What happened the Reebok Pump?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on September 12, 2010, 11:13:54 PM
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Title: Re: Running
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 14, 2010, 11:03:01 PM
I'm going to start running...now, considering I haven't ran anywhere in years how would you boys suggest starting off...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theskull1 on November 14, 2010, 11:05:03 PM
How over weight are you?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 14, 2010, 11:06:50 PM
http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-238-520--9397-2-1X5-3,00.html (http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-238-520--9397-2-1X5-3,00.html)

I don't know your current fitness level...

A walk jog program like the above is probably a good start if you aren't fit. If you are fit starting off with slow running for ~20 minutes a time would be a good start. Doing this a few times a week then building up time and pace will build with time etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 14, 2010, 11:08:58 PM
How over weight are you?
Very sensitive question! I could lose a couple of stone like but I do cycle about 7ish mile a day - 5 days a week so I'm not too unfit.  Though that's a whole different muscle group.

thanks tommy - think walk programme would be good start off
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrones own on November 14, 2010, 11:17:53 PM
Just cause ye fell off the bike last week....its hardly call for drastic measures :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 14, 2010, 11:21:38 PM
Just cause ye fell off the bike last week....its hardly call for drastic measures :P
Hey I didnt fall off it - there was just a bit of a collision...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrones own on November 14, 2010, 11:38:56 PM
Just cause ye fell off the bike last week....its hardly call for drastic measures :P
Hey I didnt fall off it - there was just a bit of a collision...
Ah right......I just thought we stopped falling off our bikes...oops I mean having
collisions when we were 7  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on December 30, 2010, 09:33:35 PM
With the new year approaching I thought I'd ask a question about fitness. All you runners on here, what way do you measure the distance you have ran? I have been using runkeeper on the iPhone for it's gps but have found that it, along with the iPod going quickly snuffs out the battery. Looked at those sat nav watches but they're about 100 bills ffs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on December 30, 2010, 09:38:53 PM
With the new year approaching I thought I'd ask a question about fitness. All you runners on here, what way do you measure the distance you have ran? I have been using runkeeper on the iPhone for it's gps but have found that it, along with the iPod going quickly snuffs out the battery. Looked at those sat nav watches but they're about 100 bills ffs

On a related point, Runkeeper Pro, usually £5.99, is free until the end of January.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heffo on December 30, 2010, 09:41:49 PM
MyTracks on the Android is free - only gives distance, avg speed etc though
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrones own on December 30, 2010, 10:36:48 PM
With the new year approaching I thought I'd ask a question about fitness. All you runners on here, what way do you measure the distance you have ran? I have been using runkeeper on the iPhone for it's gps but have found that it, along with the iPod going quickly snuffs out the battery. Looked at those sat nav watches but they're about 100 bills ffs

Get one of these yokes...shoulda bought it a long time ago, mighty job altogether!

http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-Forerunner-310XT-Waterproof-Running/dp/B0025VKW5K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293748369&sr=8-1
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 30, 2010, 10:50:22 PM
I've a Garmin 405.

There are a few new ranges out now - 310, 410 etc Things I keep track of are heart rate, distance, time on feet and current pace. All easily accessible on a garmin.

The 405 is awful with water though - it has a bezel that needs locked or it just keeps scrolling and beeping. The news ones should be better.

I've a training diary on fetcheveryone too. Very useful for keeping track / looking back on when you race to see how to improve.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrones own on December 30, 2010, 10:54:41 PM
I've a Garmin 405.

There are a few new ranges out now - 310, 410 etc Things I keep track of are heart rate, distance, time on feet and current pace. All easily accessible on a garmin.

The 405 is awful with water though - it has a bezel that needs locked or it just keeps scrolling and beeping. The news ones should be better.

I've a training diary on fetcheveryone too. Very useful for keeping track / looking back on when you race to see how to improve.
There were a lot of complaints about the bezel on the 405 and that's the reason I went with the 310 XT and it's water proof, kinda designed for triathlons.
Why do you not use Garmins own software for keeping tabs on your progress...I think it's great!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 30, 2010, 11:06:54 PM
Fetcheveryone, I find, is a very simple interface for the training diary and is pretty nifty to use.

All I want is average HR, pace / mile and distance for each run which fetch has. It summarises all this very well. Also a very useful feature on it is you put in what shoes you did the run in and it records this. Useful as most trainers only have ~500 mile in them so a good indicator of when to change.

Garmin connect has loads of bells and whistles but I wouldn't use the half of them. It's very good no doubt.

I was just reading the 410 bezel is much better. I'm contemplating upgrading. However it's £330 on amazon! 260 on a GPS site though.Might take a look at the 310. The 305 was very chunky - I'm guessing it's the same?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on December 30, 2010, 11:54:36 PM
They sound very good lads but f**k they are wile dear!! May just have to bite the bullet though
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on December 31, 2010, 02:45:07 AM
They sound very good lads but f**k they are wile dear!! May just have to bite the bullet though

I bought the garmin 205 a bout four years ago. Used it still to day, would feel like I am running naked if I didn't have it on. It cost 250 US dollars.

My youngest brother just finished his first marathon in Dublin earlier this year and for Christmas I bought him the garmin 305 version which unlike the 205 will record your heart rate. It cost 350 US dollars which is probably 175 pound. If your interested you can PM me and I will give you the stores information where I purchased it. Its in Chicago though.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tyrones own on December 31, 2010, 04:04:46 AM
Fetcheveryone, I find, is a very simple interface for the training diary and is pretty nifty to use.

All I want is average HR, pace / mile and distance for each run which fetch has. It summarises all this very well. Also a very useful feature on it is you put in what shoes you did the run in and it records this. Useful as most trainers only have ~500 mile in them so a good indicator of when to change.

Garmin connect has loads of bells and whistles but I wouldn't use the half of them. It's very good no doubt.

I was just reading the 410 bezel is much better. I'm contemplating upgrading. However it's £330 on amazon! 260 on a GPS site though.Might take a look at the 310. The 305 was very chunky - I'm guessing it's the same?
Yes it's the same style as the old 305 and so is quite bulky...but the bells and whistles are fantastic, different modes for the bike and also working out indoors.
I use most all it has to offer especially the HR monitor, cadence and the mapping of terrain during training for a bike race, would highly recommend it if ye can get past the price
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on January 11, 2011, 10:16:06 PM
They sound very good lads but f**k they are wile dear!! May just have to bite the bullet though

I bought the garmin 205 a bout four years ago. Used it still to day, would feel like I am running naked if I didn't have it on. It cost 250 US dollars.

My youngest brother just finished his first marathon in Dublin earlier this year and for Christmas I bought him the garmin 305 version which unlike the 205 will record your heart rate. It cost 350 US dollars which is probably 175 pound. If your interested you can PM me and I will give you the stores information where I purchased it. Its in Chicago though.
Bat, would you say the Garmin 205 is the same watch as the 305, just minus the heart rate monitor. Im interested in buying one of these, i had a loan of a 305, but i didnt use the heart rate attachment, not really interested in wearing it, but i like the watch for timing etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: BennyHarp on January 26, 2011, 03:46:37 PM
Im surprised how addictive this running lark is. I started (from a very unfit position) on the 10th of January and ran 1.5 miles which nearly killed me. I stuck at it and have gradually upped the distance over 3 or 4 nights a week to 4.5 miles with no stops the past two nights. There is a fair oul thrill after you've done the running and i honestly cant believe that i am in a position where i am actually looking forward to going for a run.

My times arent great (just under 30 mins for 3 miles) but im more concerned with just trying to get further each week. The free MAPMYRUN app for the Iphone is a good job by the way, tracks your route and distance, gives time and distance updates every mile (or km) and also tells you how many calories youv'e burned.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on January 26, 2011, 04:53:42 PM
I've been using runkeeper pro the last few weeks as someone on here said it was free for January.  thought id try it.  great job. helps me out with pacing my runs as i used to always think i was going to slow and speed up...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on January 26, 2011, 04:56:28 PM
Dont ramp up too quick.

Make sure you have at least a day rest between runs. Two or three day rests would be better at this point in your career.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: wanderer on January 26, 2011, 06:49:45 PM
Im surprised how addictive this running lark is. I started (from a very unfit position) on the 10th of January and ran 1.5 miles which nearly killed me. I stuck at it and have gradually upped the distance over 3 or 4 nights a week to 4.5 miles with no stops the past two nights. There is a fair oul thrill after you've done the running and i honestly cant believe that i am in a position where i am actually looking forward to going for a run.

My times arent great (just under 30 mins for 3 miles) but im more concerned with just trying to get further each week. The free MAPMYRUN app for the Iphone is a good job by the way, tracks your route and distance, gives time and distance updates every mile (or km) and also tells you how many calories youv'e burned.
Dont ramp up too quick.

Make sure you have at least a day rest between runs. Two or three day rests would be better at this point in your career.

I agree with Orior, each to their own, but the best advice I can give is to get as much rest as runs at this stage or you will get start to get niggles/injuries kicking in when you want them the least.
Everyone is different, but the rule of thumb is to not increase by more than 10% of the previous distance, and total your weekly distances to keep an eye on it
Title: Club 10k Race
Post by: No1 on February 22, 2011, 05:42:48 PM
Anyone fancy a nice flat 10k this Sunday..........

http://www.kilcliefgac.com/news/index.php#news_item1199 (http://www.kilcliefgac.com/news/index.php#news_item1199)

Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on March 19, 2011, 09:45:24 AM
Im running the Larne half marathon today, anybody else doing it, or have done it before?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2011, 10:12:14 AM
Yeah I've done it before - my advice would be conserve a bit of energy for second half.

It's flat to ~6 mile and then you've a mile or two of steep enough hill then downhill and back. Save some for the hill and descent then it's flat on the way back so you can hammer on.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on March 19, 2011, 10:43:42 AM
Yeah I've done it before - my advice would be conserve a bit of energy for second half.

It's flat to ~6 mile and then you've a mile or two of steep enough hill then downhill and back. Save some for the hill and descent then it's flat on the way back so you can hammer on.
Cheers, just finished beatin the porridge into me!! Bring it on, im lookin forward to it!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on March 19, 2011, 11:20:01 AM
Getting awful pain in the outside of my knee and up into the side of my thigh. Usually kicks in after about 5/6 miles. Really starting to hold me back. Any ideas on how to prevent this. Tried resting but again it comes back. Got a gait analysis and proper trainers, no help. Starting to think running isn't for me
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on March 19, 2011, 12:35:45 PM
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliotibial_band_syndrome
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2011, 01:45:46 PM
You can treat it with a foam roller though a physio is obviously a better bet. Have you had it treated? Even with new trainers it still won't go away if you haven't had it treated.

It's generally caused through over pronation. If it's still bad with new trainers then orthotics would be an option. It also happened me when I first started running however I've got over it now.

Goo luck in Larne LHIS. I know a good few ones doing it - always a good race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on March 19, 2011, 02:36:07 PM
yea i got physio treatment on it last year but it had limited success tbh.  i do over pronate according to the gait analysis and thus got trainers to suit.  rested for about 2 months but it quickly returned once i was up and running again. admittedly i wouldnt be the most flexible in the world so maybe getting one of these foam rollers would help
Title: Re: Running
Post by: wanderer on March 19, 2011, 11:06:39 PM
Getting awful pain in the outside of my knee and up into the side of my thigh. Usually kicks in after about 5/6 miles. Really starting to hold me back. Any ideas on how to prevent this. Tried resting but again it comes back. Got a gait analysis and proper trainers, no help. Starting to think running isn't for me

Have had that before myself. Get yourself a good sports massage at least twice, lay of the running for a few weeks (replace with cycling or swimming if you can) and you'll be better than before in no time.
New trainers and foam rollers are a good job when it has been loosened off, but its somewhere between hard & impossible to stretch properly until you get it massaged (in my experience), and it will keep re-occuring.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on March 20, 2011, 09:02:55 AM
You can treat it with a foam roller though a physio is obviously a better bet. Have you had it treated? Even with new trainers it still won't go away if you haven't had it treated.

It's generally caused through over pronation. If it's still bad with new trainers then orthotics would be an option. It also happened me when I first started running however I've got over it now.

Goo luck in Larne LHIS. I know a good few ones doing it - always a good race.
You were right enough, good run, i struggled on the way home tho, last 3 miles was one foot after the other stuff  :(. Really wanted to run under 1hr 40mins and missed it by 23 seconds. Sore as bejaysus this morning too!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 20, 2011, 09:21:39 AM
You can treat it with a foam roller though a physio is obviously a better bet. Have you had it treated? Even with new trainers it still won't go away if you haven't had it treated.

It's generally caused through over pronation. If it's still bad with new trainers then orthotics would be an option. It also happened me when I first started running however I've got over it now.

Goo luck in Larne LHIS. I know a good few ones doing it - always a good race.
You were right enough, good run, i struggled on the way home tho, last 3 miles was one foot after the other stuff  :(. Really wanted to run under 1hr 40mins and missed it by 23 seconds. Sore as bejaysus this morning too!

why, what way do you normally run !
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on March 20, 2011, 09:29:40 AM
You can treat it with a foam roller though a physio is obviously a better bet. Have you had it treated? Even with new trainers it still won't go away if you haven't had it treated.

It's generally caused through over pronation. If it's still bad with new trainers then orthotics would be an option. It also happened me when I first started running however I've got over it now.

Goo luck in Larne LHIS. I know a good few ones doing it - always a good race.
You were right enough, good run, i struggled on the way home tho, last 3 miles was one foot after the other stuff  :(. Really wanted to run under 1hr 40mins and missed it by 23 seconds. Sore as bejaysus this morning too!

why, what way do you normally run !
A turn of phrase, but you know what i mean, cheeky fecker!! You doing this big run in Bellaghy thats coming up soon, seein as you are obviously an expert!!  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 20, 2011, 09:35:04 AM
You can treat it with a foam roller though a physio is obviously a better bet. Have you had it treated? Even with new trainers it still won't go away if you haven't had it treated.

It's generally caused through over pronation. If it's still bad with new trainers then orthotics would be an option. It also happened me when I first started running however I've got over it now.

Goo luck in Larne LHIS. I know a good few ones doing it - always a good race.
You were right enough, good run, i struggled on the way home tho, last 3 miles was one foot after the other stuff  :(. Really wanted to run under 1hr 40mins and missed it by 23 seconds. Sore as bejaysus this morning too!

why, what way do you normally run !
A turn of phrase, but you know what i mean, cheeky fecker!! You doing this big run in Bellaghy thats coming up soon, seein as you are obviously an expert!!  ;)

for anyone who knows me,an expert in running wouldnt be the 1st thing that comes to mind when you see me  :D

Im in Cardiff for the Heineken Cup Final that weekend anyway, but 9 or 10 mile would be too much for me. I will stick to the fantasy rugby ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 20, 2011, 02:01:04 PM
You can treat it with a foam roller though a physio is obviously a better bet. Have you had it treated? Even with new trainers it still won't go away if you haven't had it treated.

It's generally caused through over pronation. If it's still bad with new trainers then orthotics would be an option. It also happened me when I first started running however I've got over it now.

Goo luck in Larne LHIS. I know a good few ones doing it - always a good race.
You were right enough, good run, i struggled on the way home tho, last 3 miles was one foot after the other stuff  :(. Really wanted to run under 1hr 40mins and missed it by 23 seconds. Sore as bejaysus this morning too!

why, what way do you normally run !
A turn of phrase, but you know what i mean, cheeky fecker!! You doing this big run in Bellaghy thats coming up soon, seein as you are obviously an expert!!  ;)

Was there not a 10k in Bellaghy the other weekend there? Or is the Ronan Rocks one a different one altogether?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hoof Hearted on March 20, 2011, 08:07:55 PM
You can treat it with a foam roller though a physio is obviously a better bet. Have you had it treated? Even with new trainers it still won't go away if you haven't had it treated.

It's generally caused through over pronation. If it's still bad with new trainers then orthotics would be an option. It also happened me when I first started running however I've got over it now.

Goo luck in Larne LHIS. I know a good few ones doing it - always a good race.
You were right enough, good run, i struggled on the way home tho, last 3 miles was one foot after the other stuff  :(. Really wanted to run under 1hr 40mins and missed it by 23 seconds. Sore as bejaysus this morning too!

why, what way do you normally run !
A turn of phrase, but you know what i mean, cheeky fecker!! You doing this big run in Bellaghy thats coming up soon, seein as you are obviously an expert!!  ;)

Was there not a 10k in Bellaghy the other weekend there? Or is the Ronan Rocks one a different one altogether?

it's a different one, this isnt a 10 K, nor  a half marathon, it's somewhere in between, 9 mile or so.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: isourboydownyet on March 21, 2011, 11:59:17 AM
ronans charity race is 15k on the 21st of may i think
Title: Re: Running
Post by: JimStynes on March 21, 2011, 12:08:17 PM
Done a 5 mile charity run yesterday. I can't understand why people would want to do a marathon! 5 mile is enough for me. It wasn't hard or anything, just extremely boring. I couldn't imagine having to run for 25 mile or so. I think i will take up the cycling, much more enjoyable.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on March 21, 2011, 01:29:03 PM
I did 30 mile cycle yesterday and overtook a load of Santa Claus's (not sure of the plural) on the Comber Greenway.

It's not often I get to overtake other cyclists, so that was fun, but I've no idea why they were all dressed up as Santa Claus.

I thought about knocking a few over so I could stop and ask but then I thought Christmas aint that far away and I'd better watch out, I'd better not cry, I'd better behave, I'm telling you why, Santa Claus is coming to town.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Norf Tyrone on March 28, 2011, 05:16:05 PM
Are there any watches that will track your distance and pace without having to remortgage the house?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on March 28, 2011, 05:25:09 PM
Are there any watches that will track your distance and pace without having to remortgage the house?

A cheap Casio watch plus this http://www.mapmyrun.com/ (http://www.mapmyrun.com/).

Alternatively measure out a couple of runs in your Dad's car (including the halfway point), then concentrate on:
1) improving the time for each run
2) running the second half quicker than the first half
 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 28, 2011, 05:30:45 PM
Are there any watches that will track your distance and pace without having to remortgage the house?

A cheap Casio watch plus this http://www.mapmyrun.com/ (http://www.mapmyrun.com/).

Alternatively measure out a couple of runs in your Dad's car (including the halfway point), then concentrate on:
1) improving the time for each run
2) running the second half quicker than the first half

 ???
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on March 28, 2011, 05:36:17 PM
Or your sisters. Why waste your own petrol?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2011, 10:08:41 PM
Thinking of getting back into a bit of road running but at the moment dont have the right footwear. Any hints on what to get, not as young as I used to be so trying to protect the old joints.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on March 28, 2011, 10:30:25 PM
Thinking of getting back into a bit of road running but at the moment dont have the right footwear. Any hints on what to get, not as young as I used to be so trying to protect the old joints.

You can't go far wrong with a decent pair of Asics.

This is a good site and they always have some sort of sale on.

http://www.prodirectrunning.com/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2011, 11:11:51 PM
Try one of these three places as they're usually best...

http://sweatshop.co.uk/ (http://sweatshop.co.uk/)
http://startfitness.co.uk/ (http://startfitness.co.uk/)
http://www.sportsdirect.com/ (http://www.sportsdirect.com/)

Asics I usually go for. Check out whether you're neutral or not too. Asics cumulus for neutral or GT21XX if you pronate.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 29, 2011, 09:02:14 AM
Thanks lads.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on March 29, 2011, 11:44:35 PM
How important is this crap? - These mens Asics trainers are ideal for the mild overpronator, assisting with technique and performance through the Duomax support system, placed sport specifically at the midsole to enhance support and stability.

Do any of you get your feet assessed?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: paco on March 30, 2011, 08:18:18 AM
How important is this crap? - These mens Asics trainers are ideal for the mild overpronator, assisting with technique and performance through the Duomax support system, placed sport specifically at the midsole to enhance support and stability.

Do any of you get your feet assessed?

I'd like to know this too, how important is it? I bought a pair of Asics recently and I must confess I bought the because there was £45 off them in Sports Direct, they feel different from previous trainers and I'm starting to wonder if there are any side affects to getting the wrong type of trainers?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on March 30, 2011, 09:39:58 AM
How important is this crap? - These mens Asics trainers are ideal for the mild overpronator, assisting with technique and performance through the Duomax support system, placed sport specifically at the midsole to enhance support and stability.

Do any of you get your feet assessed?

ONeill - I posted this link last year on this thread.

http://www.tribune.ie/sport/other-sport/article/2010/sep/12/back-stage-peter-gunning-foot-and-mouth/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 30, 2011, 10:20:50 AM
http://www.therunningadvisor.com/running_shoes.html#pronation (http://www.therunningadvisor.com/running_shoes.html#pronation)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Hardy on March 30, 2011, 10:41:06 AM
How important is this crap? - These mens Asics trainers are ideal for the mild overpronator, assisting with technique and performance through the Duomax support system, placed sport specifically at the midsole to enhance support and stability.

Do any of you get your feet assessed?

I was hobbling on my left ankle after every tennis session for a couple of days at a time. I wandered into Foot Solutions in Cork and they did a free assessment. They said my left foot was tilting outward at the ankle and quoted me €289 or something for a set of inserts for my shoes. I said "Christ!".

I have heel pads in the tennis shoes for cushioning - they're bevelled yokes under your heel about 7 cm long that go from 8 mm thick at the back down to nothing). I took the one in the left shoe and turned it 90 degrees so that the high part was now at the left of my heel instead of the back. No more ankle problems.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 30, 2011, 11:36:48 AM
For low miles it wouldn't be too important depending on how bad your pronation is. Once you get any kind of mileage though this stuff really kicks in. When I started running bigger miles I kept getting knee problems which were due to ITBS. This is a common runners problem caused by over pronation. I got inserts which sorted it.

If you run a bit and get no injury problems I wouldn't worry about it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: paco on March 30, 2011, 07:00:51 PM
Interesting. I think I might go and get the feet looked at, no real pain at the minute but I can feel that something isn't right. Does that Runner's World shop across from the Europa do it? What are the prices like?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 08, 2011, 03:16:02 PM
Hi lads I am running the marathon in Belfast in a few weeks and am really looking forward to it :P  The knees and ankles are well battered at this stage and hopefully I may be able to lose the stone that I need to over the next few weeks.  If anyone else is doing it I would appreciate a running victim to help pull me along.  I know I can rely on Orior to cheer me on again this year.  I am raising money for the Red Cross so feel free anyone else to send a few sheckles to my justgiving account which is on the link in my signature.  I will be spamming all my e mail/facebook friends as well ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on April 08, 2011, 04:57:33 PM
No bother son. Though this time I cant wait around after the sun has set.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mannix on April 08, 2011, 10:03:08 PM
Best of luck to broken crossbar,is this your first?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 08, 2011, 10:16:14 PM
BC there are pacers doing it for a load of different times.

A lot of these guys are a real good help and will give you a lot of good help getting round. They'll be the ones with balloons on them. They are a good job and I'd recommend latching on to a group.

3:00,3:15,3:45,4:00 and 4:30 are the ones with pacers I think.

I think you sign up at the "expo". Details at this link:http://www.belfastcitymarathon.com/opencontent/default.asp?itemid=97&section=GET+TRAINING (http://www.belfastcitymarathon.com/opencontent/default.asp?itemid=97&section=GET+TRAINING)

Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 08, 2011, 11:07:17 PM
Thanks to orior my first sponsor! I'll look into that tommy, I did it last year with no real training. This year I have done a bit more and hope to take a few minutes. Also I know now what pace to do it at. Last year I went off far too hard and was really badly bursted by 16 miles. I will be a bit more conservative early on.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on April 08, 2011, 11:17:07 PM
I'm doing a leg of it. I catch a glimpse of you BC you're going to get some kick up the hole.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 08, 2011, 11:24:32 PM
Which leg?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on April 08, 2011, 11:30:01 PM
Not sure yet. He hasn't decided on running order. Hoping for the Falls one.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 09, 2011, 11:12:14 AM
I'm doing a leg of it also, Hopefully i'll be grand, not doing any training at all for it, I should be ok? shouldn't I??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mannix on April 09, 2011, 12:27:47 PM
I'm doing a leg of it also, Hopefully i'll be grand, not doing any training at all for it, I should be ok? shouldn't I??

This is what we call "the confidence of youth"
Good luck
Title: Re: Running
Post by: CiKe on April 09, 2011, 12:30:21 PM
I'm doing a leg of it also, Hopefully i'll be grand, not doing any training at all for it, I should be ok? shouldn't I??

This is what we call "the confidence of youth"
Good luck

Nothing youthful about him! Good luck Milltown
Title: Re: Running
Post by: orangeman on April 11, 2011, 02:05:26 PM
Lads,


This doesn't bear thinking about.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12933932
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on April 17, 2011, 10:00:34 AM
Lads,


This doesn't bear thinking about.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12933932
Good show that, watchin a bit of the London Marathon here, elite woman runners went off first, they have run over 11 miles in under an hour, some pace!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AFS on April 18, 2011, 05:56:09 PM
Lads,


This doesn't bear thinking about.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-12933932

Bit closer today.

Geoffrey Mutai breaks world marathon record in Boston

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Kenya's Geoffrey Mutai has won the Boston Marathon men's race in an unofficial world-record time of two hours, three minutes and two seconds.

The previous record of 2:03:59 was set by Ethiopia's Haile Gebrselassie in Berlin on 28 September 2008.

More to follow.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/athletics/13116092.stm
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ardal on April 18, 2011, 09:51:51 PM
I'm doing a leg of it. I catch a glimpse of you BC you're going to get some kick up the hole.

Really sorry, but having done a few marathons, I really hate the "one leg of it" feckers. You start off, try desperately hard to keep your pace under control, hit a few miles, you've set your pace on someone a bit in front, then he drops out and another fecker take over.

Would you do a wee bit of it with your missus and then let someone else take over? Ahhh feck, don't answer that
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on April 18, 2011, 09:56:38 PM
I'm doing a leg of it. I catch a glimpse of you BC you're going to get some kick up the hole.

Really sorry, but having done a few marathons, I really hate the "one leg of it" feckers. You start off, try desperately hard to keep your pace under control, hit a few miles, you've set your pace on someone a bit in front, then he drops out and another fecker take over.

Would you do a wee bit of it with your missus and then let someone else take over? Ahhh feck, don't answer that

LOL. Mrs Ardal might beg to differ.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ardal on April 18, 2011, 10:13:34 PM
I'm doing a leg of it. I catch a glimpse of you BC you're going to get some kick up the hole.

Really sorry, but having done a few marathons, I really hate the "one leg of it" feckers. You start off, try desperately hard to keep your pace under control, hit a few miles, you've set your pace on someone a bit in front, then he drops out and another fecker take over.

Would you do a wee bit of it with your missus and then let someone else take over? Ahhh feck, don't answer that

LOL. Mrs Ardal might beg to differ.

I'm a full marathon man myself Orior, love that nutty, caramel, chocolate mix. Never have dropped out half way, even if the missus was too sound asleep to know.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 29, 2011, 05:51:09 PM
SPONSOR ME FOR BELFAST MARATHON RUN!!! (http://original.justgiving.com/gavincumiskey)

Ok lads coming into the last few days before the run and training is going mehhh but sure I'll get round at some stage :D.

Many thanks to the little baldy man, I promise the Kerry man I won't clean him out on the golf course, the Mayo man in the middle of the field, the man who knows a man who is the fastest talker in the world, the man from the bogs, the Principal of the Board, Joe Brolly's mate and my own personal marathon stalker, all very generous with their contributions to my ambulance fund(my own personal ambulance!).  Now come on to f**k the rest of you mean hoors and put your fingers to work over to my fundraising website and sponsor me some money!!!!

Thanks

SPONSOR ME FOR BELFAST MARATHON RUN!!! (http://original.justgiving.com/gavincumiskey)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 29, 2011, 07:16:18 PM
At a party at the min, just got sponsored hundred quid!! rich guy, brill up to 3 hundred without trying. Ardal you are full of shite. You wanted to finish a full match but were shite!!! stick to running
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on May 01, 2011, 08:47:14 PM
60 of us from my firm are taking part in various ways in memory of our colleague who was murdered in September. Look out for bright yellow tshirts with an accountancy firm logo down the side!

Doing the 9 mile walk myself.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2011, 08:50:22 PM
Yes should be good craic tomorrow, have done nothing, haven't run at all, but looking to do 9/10 minute mile.

Am I being too optimistic? 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: hardstation on May 01, 2011, 08:52:31 PM
Yes should be good craic tomorrow, have done nothing, haven't run at all, but looking to do 9/10 minute mile.

Am I being too optimistic?
How much of it are you doing?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2011, 08:53:06 PM
Only doing a leg of it, 5 1/4 miles
Title: Re: Running
Post by: hardstation on May 01, 2011, 08:54:55 PM
Certainly optimistic in doing 9/10 minute miles.

Optimistic that you'll do it all without having to dander a fair bit.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2011, 08:58:58 PM
aye i know, sort of hoping for 9/10 mins but people keep telling me not a chance!!

Want to get her done so i can get back to Bureau for some bugers and beers ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: hardstation on May 01, 2011, 09:03:00 PM
aye i know, sort of hoping for 9/10 mins but people keep telling me not a chance!!

Want to get her done so i can get back to Bureau for some bugers and beers ;)
You ought to be ashamed anyway, milltown, Aidso Murray and Sean Shannon are doing the whole thing!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on May 01, 2011, 09:24:12 PM
aye i know, sort of hoping for 9/10 mins but people keep telling me not a chance!!

Want to get her done so i can get back to Bureau for some bugers and beers ;)
You ought to be ashamed anyway, milltown, Aidso Murray and Sean Shannon are doing the whole thing!

Whose car are they taking?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 01, 2011, 09:31:34 PM
aye i know, sort of hoping for 9/10 mins but people keep telling me not a chance!!

Want to get her done so i can get back to Bureau for some bugers and beers ;)
Whatever you fancy yourself wee man.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2011, 09:36:12 PM
aye i know, sort of hoping for 9/10 mins but people keep telling me not a chance!!

Want to get her done so i can get back to Bureau for some bugers and beers ;)
Whatever you fancy yourself wee man.


 ;D ;D

Burgers then ;) will try the other thing after a few beers :D
aye i know, sort of hoping for 9/10 mins but people keep telling me not a chance!!

Want to get her done so i can get back to Bureau for some burgers and beers ;)
You ought to be ashamed anyway, milltown, Aidso Murray and Sean Shannon are doing the whole thing!

Aidso would probably be still fit. I'll do this and see if i have a notion for actually doing the whole thing
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 01, 2011, 09:38:12 PM
MR 9 / 10 minute miles shouldn't be too hard for that distance if you are keeping yourself in any kind of shape. 9 / 10 minute miles isn't shifting particularly much - just don't go off to fast and it will be easy.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on May 01, 2011, 10:02:38 PM
Doing the first six myself. I would love to do the whole lot but every time I get to longer miles in training I pick up an injury. Feckin 2 weeks before the Dublin marathon last year ffs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: David McKeown on May 01, 2011, 10:12:27 PM
Only doing 3.5 tomorrow but I've put on zoo much weight the last two years I'm really dreading it but ah well it's all for charity.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2011, 01:07:21 PM
Well done to all who ran the marathon or like myself and thousands of others a leg or two of it, was powerfully warm today but I managed the 4th leg in 42 minutes!! Surprised myself as I hadn't done a pick of training!!

8 minute mile, while I don't have a bug for running I would be tempted to do 2 legs maybe next year, with a bit of training of course. Now I'm off to have a few beers at the local
Title: Re: Running
Post by: orangeman on May 02, 2011, 01:21:33 PM
Jacob Chesire wins Belfast marathon in record time

Jacob Chesire from Kenya has won this year's marathon in a record-breaking time of two hours 14 minutes and 56 seconds.

The previous record was two hours 15 minutes and 51 seconds by Marty Deane in 1985.

Up to 21,000 people are taking part in events connected to the 30th Belfast Marathon.

Race director David Seaton said the event was "very good" for Belfast with the biggest number of entrants ever.

"We have 21,000 people of all shapes, sizes and athletic abilities," he said.

"It is the biggest entry we have ever had over the years. We, as organisers, are delighted."

Mr Seaton said the conditions were perhaps a little warm for those running the full marathon.

"It will be okay for the fun runners and, maybe, the relay runners. But for some of the marathon runners, out for three or three and a half hours, it could be pretty awkward."

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on May 02, 2011, 02:39:17 PM
Brokencrossbar last spotted on the Antrim Road about 11am and full of beans. Wonder how long that lasted!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on May 02, 2011, 03:05:06 PM
Brokencrossbar last spotted on the Antrim Road about 11am and full of beans. Wonder how long that lasted!

Don't know but he was posting on the Liverpool thread at 16.30 ish.

If liverpool win their last 3 games they will get 5th barring a goal scoring miracle by spurs. Liverpool have 8 goal advantage. Even if they won last 3 games 1 nil it would mean spurs scoring 12 clear goals in 3 games, with 1 game against Man City.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 02, 2011, 03:41:51 PM
Wrong day Denn!  Finished and on the way home. Didn't do it as fast as I hoped but finished and for that I am satisfied. Orior didn't stalk me like last year but his encouragement was welcome.  O'Neill didn't give me the promised kick in the hole, I don't know which of us was the fastest;) Any thoughts of a third one are well and truly on ice! Home now for fat food and beer!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AZOffaly on May 02, 2011, 04:09:49 PM
Fair play to all of ye who did the run. I will, of course, require photographic evidence of the Cross man crossing the line.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 02, 2011, 04:20:12 PM
Evidence sent old boy!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: paco on May 23, 2011, 09:51:52 PM
It's probably been covered by someone else on here, but I bought a pair of Asics GT-2150 (which are support trainers) and I think I should have just stuck with neutral trainers. I also think I remember reading here that that Up & Running shop, down the street from the Europa Hotel, can test your pronation and do it for free if you buy a pair of trainers, is this true? Maybe I'm just being paranoid but I'd like to get checked out just to be sure.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: All of a Sludden on May 23, 2011, 09:55:32 PM
It's probably been covered by someone else on here, but I bought a pair of Asics GT-2150 (which are support trainers) and I think I should have just stuck with neutral trainers. I also think I remember reading here that that Up & Running shop, down the street from the Europa Hotel, can test your pronation and do it for free if you buy a pair of trainers, is this true? Maybe I'm just being paranoid but I'd like to get checked out just to be sure.

Free if you buy a new pair of trainers, £10/15 if you dont. Why did you buy trainers with "support" if you werent sure if you needed them?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: paco on May 23, 2011, 09:58:15 PM
It's probably been covered by someone else on here, but I bought a pair of Asics GT-2150 (which are support trainers) and I think I should have just stuck with neutral trainers. I also think I remember reading here that that Up & Running shop, down the street from the Europa Hotel, can test your pronation and do it for free if you buy a pair of trainers, is this true? Maybe I'm just being paranoid but I'd like to get checked out just to be sure.

Free if you buy a new pair of trainers, £10/15 if you dont. Why did you buy trainers with "support" if you werent sure if you needed them?

They were on sale  :-[ I'll learn for next time. Thanks btw, going to call in this week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: All of a Sludden on May 23, 2011, 10:00:38 PM
IF they are unworn and the correct size I`ll take them off you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: paco on May 23, 2011, 10:04:24 PM
It gets worse...I've had them for a while and, even though I had my suspicions, I kept wearing them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: All of a Sludden on May 23, 2011, 10:08:50 PM
Thought I was going to get a bargain, Up and Running dont have any at the minute and they are £96
Title: Re: Running
Post by: paco on May 23, 2011, 10:12:48 PM
The Gt-2150 are £96? I paid £50 in Sports Direct.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2011, 10:22:22 PM
The 2150s(a model up I think) are ~£60 in a variety of places online.

When you say it's worse - how so?? Have you got injured in them?

Yeah, U&R do gait analysis. You will pay if you don't buy trainers.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: paco on May 23, 2011, 10:29:55 PM
It's hard to describe. Up until now, I haven't felt any pain (tonight has been the first instance and I would describe it as more of a niggle than a pain, but it concerns me nonetheless). I never felt entirely comfortable, like I have with previous running shoes, but I persisted with them and now I think it's time to see if it's all in my head or if I need to get a more suitable pair.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 23, 2011, 10:38:25 PM
Ah, well try a GAIT analysis I would say. I would recommend sussing it out and paying once in a shop then when you have it sussed buy your trainers from here on in online.

You would tend to get more problems when you wear neutral and should be in stability shoes to be honest however they could cause problems.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: paco on May 23, 2011, 10:46:09 PM
Aye, I'm gonna call in this week, I'd rather be safe than sorry. I'll maybe lay off the running for a few days in the meantime. Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 23, 2011, 11:02:31 PM
It costs £20 to get gait analysis in Up & Running. If you don't buy straight away they give you a voucher to redeem at a later stage. Worth doing it if you are a serious road runner.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on May 24, 2011, 09:36:59 PM
Found Up and Running a really good place to go. Might be more expensive than buying on line, but the advice was first class. Ive not had any injuries since buying my last pair of runners there. Well worth a visit imo.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on June 16, 2011, 01:56:12 PM
Has anybody ran the Ards half marathon before?  Entered for it, but have heard a few horror stories about how tough it is!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on June 16, 2011, 05:47:07 PM
Was supposed to do it myself but training didn't exactly go to plan!  I have a friend who ran it last year and he says it's very tough,  up and round Scrabo Tower twice according to him.  Not sure if it's a different route this year.  Good luck with it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: LeoMc on June 16, 2011, 09:44:58 PM
Anyone doing Dromore 10K on Saturday?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 19, 2011, 01:52:17 PM
Anyone doing the 10 Mile in the Phoenix park tomorrow?. 6,800 entered!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on August 19, 2011, 02:15:59 PM
Wish I'd entered that - doing the half marathon there in 4 weeks' time.

Only at 9miles so far - hope to tag on another one tomorrow on a long run. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ildanach on August 19, 2011, 02:23:48 PM
Anyone doing the 10 Mile in the Phoenix park tomorrow?. 6,800 entered!

i'm doing it. its pissing in dublin right now,so hopefully it will be better tomorrow
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on August 19, 2011, 02:36:25 PM
Please post up how you get on.  And good luck.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 19, 2011, 02:43:30 PM
Anyone doing the 10 Mile in the Phoenix park tomorrow?. 6,800 entered!

i'm doing it. its pissing in dublin right now,so hopefully it will be better tomorrow
Don't mind the rain as long as the wind stays away. Bit of a climb after 3 miles till 4 and a sharp rise inside the last mile. Cracking course otherwise. Hoping to get in or around the hour for it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on August 19, 2011, 02:48:41 PM
Wish I'd entered that - doing the half marathon there in 4 weeks' time.

Only at 9miles so far - hope to tag on another one tomorrow on a long run.

Rois

Why dont you go up anyway, I know one lad who does that every year. You can time yourself. I did it about 5 years ago, 52 minutes odd, had to laugh at the picture of myself at the end,looked like I had ran from Galway to Dublin the state I was in.

Good luck Ballinaman and thanks for advice,wrist is in good shape, playing golf in the morning.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 19, 2011, 02:49:34 PM
Few of the local lads are doing the run, then they for the Berlin Marathon at end of september.

Gaelforce in westport is this weekend as well, 2,600 doing it. More of a mutlidiscipline race with running, hiking, cycling and kayaking but have promised myself to do it next year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 19, 2011, 02:51:51 PM
Wish I'd entered that - doing the half marathon there in 4 weeks' time.

Only at 9miles so far - hope to tag on another one tomorrow on a long run.

Rois

Why dont you go up anyway, I know one lad who does that every year. You can time yourself. I did it about 5 years ago, 52 minutes odd, had to laugh at the picture of myself at the end,looked like I had ran from Galway to Dublin the state I was in.

Good luck Ballinaman and thanks for advice,wrist is in good shape, playing golf in the morning.
Goof stuff gerry, glad to hear its coming along, best of luck. 52 mins for 10 miles, jaysus...thats fairly handy..should pack in that golf and stick to the running!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gerrykeegan on August 19, 2011, 02:54:37 PM
Only saw that now, its 10k I did, felt like 10 miles!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 19, 2011, 03:46:16 PM
I entered but unfortunately can not do it now with an injury I picked up :-(

If you did 52 minutes for 10 mile you'd maybe win it!

Be interesting to see who wins it tomorrow. Boy going down from the north who fancies his chances but there's a few boys running down south who may put manners in him!

I know a few boys doing Gaelfoce - I expect they'll get their fill of it doing that event!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 20, 2011, 12:43:45 PM
61 mins 54 seconds....comfortable enough, crackin day for a race!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ildanach on August 20, 2011, 09:31:32 PM
that was a great time. I did it in 88 13. That hill on the last mile was a f**ker in the heat. First time doing a 10mile race, so delighted to finish it below 90mins
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 21, 2011, 08:24:45 AM
that was a great time. I did it in 88 13. That hill on the last mile was a f**ker in the heat. First time doing a 10mile race, so delighted to finish it below 90mins
fair play, great to break the 90 mins!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2011, 10:11:56 PM
Ballinaman I take it you do a right bit of running? That's a serious time. I'd love to break the 60 some time - have got 29 in a 5 mile but getting sub 6 for 10 miles tough.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 21, 2011, 10:16:30 PM
Ballinaman I take it you do a right bit of running? That's a serious time. I'd love to break the 60 some time - have got 29 in a 5 mile but getting sub 6 for 10 miles tough.
29 is failry handy for 5!Do a bit alright... :P 60 will be tough but hope to have a crack at it in the half marathon in september. Going for marathon so serious training starts now!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2011, 10:35:25 PM
Ha, ai thought you might do a bit at that time.

With that time sub 3 should be doable in a marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 21, 2011, 10:41:01 PM
Ha, ai thought you might do a bit at that time.

With that time sub 3 should be doable in a marathon.
Did an hour 23 for a half a few weeks ago but i was spent in last 3 miles. First marathon so 3 hours is probably just out of reach, have to experience that pain beyond 20 miles!! :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2011, 10:47:35 PM
I don't do the marathons but do the long runs up to 2 hours with a lot of guys some of whom would be sub 2:40.

I've seen quite a lot of boys try so hard to get the 3 and never get it and boys you never thought would get it get it.

The marathon is a funny old game - all in the head. Also difficult to get the peak right but I think a lot of it is in the preparation and the management of the body so if you prepare right very possible. (2 x half + 10 is a good approximation apparently)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 21, 2011, 10:57:11 PM
I don't do the marathons but do the long runs up to 2 hours with a lot of guys some of whom would be sub 2:40.

I've seen quite a lot of boys try so hard to get the 3 and never get it and boys you never thought would get it get it.

The marathon is a funny old game - all in the head. Also difficult to get the peak right but I think a lot of it is in the preparation and the management of the body so if you prepare right very possible. (2 x half + 10 is a good approximation apparently)
Spot on alright. Tough to get the balance right, have to be careful not to over train. Want to have four 20 miler runs in around 2 and a half hours before October 31st. Looking forward to it though. The start of the ten mile was a joke though, very narrow and had people who shouldn't have been anywhere near the front holding up the show, had to run up in the grass embankments!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2011, 11:00:52 PM
Some of the people at the front of them runs annoy my head - they're wasting everyones time including their own.  Trick is you warm up on the course then run back to the start and push in! (Haven't done a race that big mind as max up here is ~1k excluding belfast marathon)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on August 22, 2011, 08:50:49 AM
Did a 10km run there yesterday. Its part of the City to Surf that Chevron organise across Australia, and as we're on a Chevron site they organised one here....

Hadn't trained at all for it, (and to be honest i was no great shakes anyway) but managed to complete the 10k in just under an hour, which was my aim

The first 5k was extremely hilly, and on dirt roads with lots of potholes, loose stones etc. Also didnt help that it was 26deg in the shade...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on August 22, 2011, 07:04:36 PM
im thinkin of running this
http://www.causewaycoastmarathon.com/ (HALF MARATHON)
Anybody ran it before?
Am i Mad?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 22, 2011, 09:52:47 PM
Haven't ran it but have heard reports of more trail and hills than your average half marathon. I don't think it's that bad though. You'll not run a PB at it but sure you could say that about a lot of races.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on August 24, 2011, 10:27:24 AM
Did 10.2 (the 0.2 is important!) in 97 mins last night as part of half marathon training.  The last half mile felt like a climb so I walked a bit of it.  I have never run that far in my life. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 24, 2011, 11:09:35 AM
Did 10.2 (the 0.2 is important!) in 97 mins last night as part of half marathon training.  The last half mile felt like a climb so I walked a bit of it.  I have never run that far in my life.
Tell me about it. Just after doing 20 miles in about 2 hours 30 mins....legs creaking the last 2 miles...work is gonna be great craic today! :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 12, 2011, 12:15:00 PM
Anyone doing the half marathon in phoenix park this saturday? Clashing with the Ireland Australia game!  >:(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on September 16, 2011, 04:00:39 PM
Right, my first ever timed run with other people coming up tomorrow with the half marathon.

Race pack hasn't arrived, my tickets for the AIF haven't arrived, I got a spasm in my neck this week from the driving range...but I have decided not to worry about all those things and look forward to running 13.1 miles round Phoenix Park. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 16, 2011, 07:59:18 PM
Right, my first ever timed run with other people coming up tomorrow with the half marathon.

Race pack hasn't arrived, my tickets for the AIF haven't arrived, I got a spasm in my neck this week from the driving range...but I have decided not to worry about all those things and look forward to running 13.1 miles round Phoenix Park.
Best of luck Rois. Prep hasn't been ideal for myself either, couldn't shake a cold for last 2 weeks, training hard hasn't help and woke up with swollen tonsil yesterday morning! On anti b's since this morn. Still hoping for breakin pb of 1.23mins though!

Weather going to be shite! ah well!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ildanach on September 16, 2011, 09:24:03 PM
if i do it in 2 hours i will be delighted
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 17, 2011, 01:23:35 PM
1.24.16.....happy enough considering tonsils nearly coming out of my neck for last 2 days! Tired from 6-10 but picked it up again thankfully in last 3.1!!Think sub 3 for the marathon might be a bit too much of an ask... :-\
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ildanach on September 17, 2011, 03:04:12 PM
2:04 would have liked to have made the 2 hour mark but not a bad 1st attempt at 1/2 marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on September 17, 2011, 03:10:30 PM
Rois, calling Rois.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on September 19, 2011, 08:32:33 AM
2hrs 04 as well, flip what a feeling when it was over.

I came from a standing start in June, refused to run a leg of the Belfast marathon relay because I'd told myself my chronic over pronation ruled me out. New pair of trainers and double socks from M&S worked wonders.

Well done Ballinaman and ildanach.

Oh, and tickets for the AIF arrived and they turned out to be Premiums. What a wkend!
Title: Marathon man disqualified for taking bus
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 12, 2011, 06:02:08 PM
Marathon man disqualified for taking bus

 
A man who finished third in a marathon was disqualified for taking a bus to the finishing line.

Rob Sloan produced an impressive time of 2:51:00 to finish third in the Kielder Marathon but things were not quite as they seemed.

After being spotted by a number witnesses, Sloan finally admitted that he started to feel tired after 20 miles of the 26.2 mile race, so he decided to hop on a bus that was carrying spectators to the finish.

He then hid behind a tree and waited for the first two runners to come through, before rejoining the race in time to pick up the bronze medal for third.

The Sunderland Harriers runner could now be kicked out of his club and banned from further marathons.

He had at first protested his innocence when the allegations were first brought up that he was "upset and angry that someone wants to cast these aspersions. It's laughable, is what it is."

Race organisers said in a statement: "The athlete who was disqualified on Sunday after initially placing third has admitted that he failed to complete the whole course of 26.2 miles.

"Rob Sloan of Sunderland Harriers had apparently made the decision to withdraw from the race at approximately 20 miles due to fatigue and after returning to the Leaplish Park area he decided to run the closing section of the course and crossed the finish line in third place.

"This was rightly questioned by several witnesses including the rightful third place finisher, Steven Cairns of Peebles, Scotland, who has been awarded the prize."

Ann Lillie, club treasurer and vice-president of Sunderland Harriers admitted the club would consider dismissing Sloan.

"It's a bit of a shock. We have a good reputation and obviously this has brought the club into disrepute," she is quoted as saying in the Daily Telegraph.

"It's not the kind of advertising we need. We'll be discussing Rob's future when the executive committee meets next week."

Title: Re: Running
Post by: DrinkingHarp on October 12, 2011, 10:21:44 PM
During the Chicago a man died during the race and a pregnant women went into labor.

Firefighter dies during race.............http://www.wral.com/news/state/story/10238949/


Woman gives birth after marathon.............http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/10/ap/strange/main20118157.shtml
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 12, 2011, 11:08:25 PM
That guy sounds like an idiot - I dunno why he ran a 10k race the day before a marathon. Not too sensible.

Quite a few have died in the great north run and a guy died in London the other year by drowning himself from drinking too much water.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Puckoon on October 18, 2011, 12:20:42 AM
This boy is a hundred!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15330421 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15330421)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 18, 2011, 03:24:17 PM
Anyone doing the Dublin marathon lads? Countdown is on now....

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Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 28, 2011, 11:18:16 AM
Best of luck to everyone doing the Marathon on Monday.

For any other runners out their we are organising a 5KM in Castleblayney on 4th December, a flat road race. More details on the link below.

http://www.castleblayneyfaughs.com/5k_road_race.html (http://www.castleblayneyfaughs.com/5k_road_race.html)

I'll even arrange a trophy for the first gaaboarder cross the line  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 28, 2011, 04:24:27 PM
Best of luck to everyone doing the Marathon on Monday.

For any other runners out their we are organising a 5KM in Castleblayney on 4th December, a flat road race. More details on the link below.

http://www.castleblayneyfaughs.com/5k_road_race.html (http://www.castleblayneyfaughs.com/5k_road_race.html)

I'll even arrange a trophy for the first gaaboarder cross the line  :)
May have to tip up for that!

Best of luck to everyone too, Rois and idanach if they are going.
Nervously looking forward to monday now...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 28, 2011, 07:29:11 PM
I'm sure it'll be ballinaman's trophy.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 31, 2011, 09:18:44 AM
Anyone know the link to the online results tracker??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 01, 2011, 10:54:06 PM
Aye I know a husband and wife team that went down for it. Be my age and two fitness freaks. No kids though so plenty of time to recover FFS

They did Toronto the other month, relentless.  I have been at the gym for a while and do 2 miles 4 days a week, managing to do it around 13.30 minutes. Don't think I could ever do a marathon in fairness, I'm the type of trainer who likes to get it done quickly and outta the way
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 03, 2011, 09:44:36 PM
How did anyone get on in dublin? Ballinaman you break the 3??

MR some people get addicted to the marathon lark.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 03, 2011, 10:07:07 PM
3.22 in the end. Bang on target for  sub 3 till 17 miles and then got cramps/pain like I've never felt before in all my years of running races. Was in bits!Defo underestimated it, savage experience, some challenge. The experience of the 1st one under the belt and tweak the training,I'm going to give it a serious crack in Belfast next May. Chippers and pints for the next two weeks and then back at it again! :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 03, 2011, 10:16:11 PM
Belfast ain't good for a time BM! There are good 3 hour pacers in belfast though who'd do a good job getting you round - probably the same ones as monday.

Well done - first one always toughest by all accounts. I know quite a few who did it - most seem to struggle for some reason.

By the way - Edinburgh is regarded as one of the quickest about...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heganboy on November 03, 2011, 10:16:34 PM
3.22 is still some time. I am still very pleased that I beat 4 hours! (years ago before any of the smart arises jump in...)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 03, 2011, 10:26:09 PM
Belfast ain't good for a time BM! There are good 3 hour pacers in belfast though who'd do a good job getting you round - probably the same ones as monday.

Well done - first one always toughest by all accounts. I know quite a few who did it - most seem to struggle for some reason.

By the way - Edinburgh is regarded as one of the quickest about...
Really?Bollox, thought it was supposed to be a nice enough course. Ya, the pacers on Monday were class. I was in the 3 hour group till 17, was like being in the peloton in the Tour de France!! Had to leave them go when the pain started, soul destroying to be passed by the 3.15 group at 21 miles but i dug deep and promised meself that i'd use the experience.

Aye, glad to have the 1st one out of the way. I've always been a 5k, 10K runner but the marathon is a different animal altogether. Gets ya because I'll have that 3.22 hanging over me for months until can get another go at it.

Fair play heganboy, sub 4 is serious running, marathon is brutal!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 03, 2011, 10:32:04 PM
Belfast has a lot of very exposed areas so you'll get hit by a lot of wind. Less numbers means you'll be more out on your own too if you lose the pace group. Also it's a hilly bollocks in places.  That aside it's great  ;) Seriously though it's not renowned for being fast.

3:22 is a great time especially for a first. I'm still at the 5k / 10k / 5 mile races etc. I'll do a few more of them before stepping up.

Sub 4 also good time heganboy. If you're going below 4 you're doing well.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 03, 2011, 10:42:51 PM
Belfast has a lot of very exposed areas so you'll get hit by a lot of wind. Less numbers means you'll be more out on your own too if you lose the pace group. Also it's a hilly bollocks in places.  That aside it's great  ;) Seriously though it's not renowned for being fast.

3:22 is a great time especially for a first. I'm still at the 5k / 10k / 5 mile races etc. I'll do a few more of them before stepping up.

Sub 4 also good time heganboy. If you're going below 4 you're doing well.
Sound for the heads up. Had a look at Edinburgh there, 27th of May, 3 weeks later than Belfast so bit more time to prepare. Would like to do Belfast sometime though.  Going to join a club here in Dublin in the next few weeks so hopefully might bring us on again. Looking forward to getting back to shorter races now, hopefully head up to bingos Castleblaney 5k!
You're dead right though, take your time stepping up. Hard to stop once ya start!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 04, 2011, 09:44:37 AM
Thats a very good time for first marathon, fair play.

One of the lads done 3.17, he had done 3.18 in Berlin a while back, so he was delighted on a tough enough course by all accounts. It was his 4th marathon.

I'm considering doing it next year, hopefully will do some of the muti-sport events first - the Gaelforce races, enjoy them more than the running but if they go well, I'll take on with the marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 04, 2011, 10:27:00 AM
Thats a very good time for first marathon, fair play.

One of the lads done 3.17, he had done 3.18 in Berlin a while back, so he was delighted on a tough enough course by all accounts. It was his 4th marathon.

I'm considering doing it next year, hopefully will do some of the muti-sport events first - the Gaelforce races, enjoy them more than the running but if they go well, I'll take on with the marathon.
Those adventure races look really tough, I know a lad who did gaelforce and was out for about 6 hours, thats an awful long time to be out on your feet. You need the experience of one before chasing a time, I was a bit naive thinking about times when hadn't experienced what a marathon had to offer first. Need to run last 3 or 4 miles of the 20 milers at marathon race pace to get the body used to running at that speed with that many miles on the clock. Had been doing 7 half min miles in training for 21 miles but 6.52s which are needed for sub 3 are a different story altogether! Dying to get back out again, even though stairs are still sore from last monday! :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 04, 2011, 10:51:33 AM
By all accounts they are tough but I enjoy the different elements to it, the cycling often covers alot of the distance/time. I'll target a few duathlons in the spring and the Gaelforce North in early summr before Gaelforce West in August.

I know a lad who took into running this year and over the last few months set himself for the marathon, some of the other marathons runners took him for a 20 miler about 3 weeks back and it broke him, he took a lift at about mile 18 and was out on his feet. He didn't do the marathon as he "didn't want to look like a dying c**t over the last few miles"  :D He'd be entitled to look how he wanted, no doubt he'll do it next year with more running in the years, he'd be an ignornat whore and won't settle now till he gets one in.

Never mind your stairs, Gerry Duffy was telling one of the lads that he is still struggling with mornings since his DECA Ironmans.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 04, 2011, 11:44:57 AM
I had a look at miy pictures and it's safe to say i looked like a dying c**t  :D
Also didn't look great for people to come to see a Physio on Tuesday morning and here's me struggling to get out of the chair and move around the room trying to demonstrate exercises :D

Gerry is a legend, met him a a race in Mayo a couple of months ago and before the marathon,be good to chat to him again in Castleblaney.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 04, 2011, 11:47:31 AM
I had a look at miy pictures and it's safe to say i looked like a dying c**t  :D
Also didn't look great for people to come to see a Physio on Tuesday morning and here's me struggling to get out of the chair and move around the room trying to demonstrate exercises :D

Gerry is a legend, met him a a race in Mayo a couple of months ago and before the marathon,be good to chat to him again in Castleblaney.

He is indeed, no doubt you've read his book - Who Dares runs? He is also trying to get Ken, his 32 marathons running partner, to run the 5km with him, apparently Ken hasn't done any running since it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on November 04, 2011, 11:50:20 AM
3.22 in the end. Bang on target for  sub 3 till 17 miles and then got cramps/pain like I've never felt before in all my years of running races. Was in bits!Defo underestimated it, savage experience, some challenge. The experience of the 1st one under the belt and tweak the training,I'm going to give it a serious crack in Belfast next May. Chippers and pints for the next two weeks and then back at it again! :D

Briilliant!  Congrats.

I have NO intentions of ever doing a full marathon but I'll be back for the Dublin half next year.  I wish there was a half in the Belfast marathon, since there's everything else...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 04, 2011, 11:51:44 AM
Great read. Bought it on Saturday off him at the Marathon expo and had it read before the race on monday. He's a serious runner as well, did 2.55 in his debut marathon in Edinburgh. Be good coup to have the both of them up.

Sound Rois. There is a half in Edinburgh. You say that now but the marathon will get ya...eventually... :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on November 04, 2011, 04:39:23 PM
Belfast ain't good for a time BM! There are good 3 hour pacers in belfast though who'd do a good job getting you round - probably the same ones as monday.

Well done - first one always toughest by all accounts. I know quite a few who did it - most seem to struggle for some reason.

By the way - Edinburgh is regarded as one of the quickest about...
Really?Bollox, thought it was supposed to be a nice enough course. Ya, the pacers on Monday were class. I was in the 3 hour group till 17, was like being in the peloton in the Tour de France!! Had to leave them go when the pain started, soul destroying to be passed by the 3.15 group at 21 miles but i dug deep and promised meself that i'd use the experience.

Aye, glad to have the 1st one out of the way. I've always been a 5k, 10K runner but the marathon is a different animal altogether. Gets ya because I'll have that 3.22 hanging over me for months until can get another go at it.

Fair play heganboy, sub 4 is serious running, marathon is brutal!

What time would you be running 5k and 10k in Ballinaman ? I have started back myself and would be interested to see how slow i'm running in comparison to some of ye boyo's :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 04, 2011, 06:35:38 PM
Belfast ain't good for a time BM! There are good 3 hour pacers in belfast though who'd do a good job getting you round - probably the same ones as monday.

Well done - first one always toughest by all accounts. I know quite a few who did it - most seem to struggle for some reason.

By the way - Edinburgh is regarded as one of the quickest about...
Really?Bollox, thought it was supposed to be a nice enough course. Ya, the pacers on Monday were class. I was in the 3 hour group till 17, was like being in the peloton in the Tour de France!! Had to leave them go when the pain started, soul destroying to be passed by the 3.15 group at 21 miles but i dug deep and promised meself that i'd use the experience.

Aye, glad to have the 1st one out of the way. I've always been a 5k, 10K runner but the marathon is a different animal altogether. Gets ya because I'll have that 3.22 hanging over me for months until can get another go at it.

Fair play heganboy, sub 4 is serious running, marathon is brutal!

What time would you be running 5k and 10k in Ballinaman ? I have started back myself and would be interested to see how slow i'm running in comparison to some of ye boyo's :D
First off i wouldn't be bothered about other peoples time if you have started back, just enjoy it and don't put too much emphasis on times. My PB's were back when I was 17 and training like a mad yoke. PB for 5K was 15.42 and 10K is 35.17. Would be happy with sub 18 in the Castleblaney 5k, haven't done a tap of short speed work for months.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on November 12, 2011, 01:16:11 PM
Did my first ever 5k ParkRun this morning.

http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/course (http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/course)

Very embarrassing time, but less than 26 mins
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2011, 01:37:05 PM
Did it as well orior. Great wee event.

Results are up now as I did them!

Nothing embarassing about it... It's a good event to do regularly and get your time down.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 12, 2011, 01:58:58 PM
is this a yearly thing? Would be interested in those
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 12, 2011, 02:08:05 PM
Weekly MR.

9:30 ever saturday morning. Just register and bring your barcode.

There are a couple of boys associated with your club who do it from time to time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on November 13, 2011, 12:07:26 PM
I keep getting calf strains any advice lads as it doing my head in . i'm strectching well before running,have good running shoes. I was  running this morning and just had to pull up with the shot of pain  >:( . I have been playing on astroturf the past 3 years and never had any bother with strains.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 13, 2011, 03:18:50 PM
I keep getting calf strains any advice lads as it doing my head in . i'm strectching well before running,have good running shoes. I was  running this morning and just had to pull up with the shot of pain  >:( . I have been playing on astroturf the past 3 years and never had any bother with strains.
How long into the run? Both legs? Where, towards back of knee or lower down towards the achilles? Whats your hamstring length like, can have a big affect on the calf muscles if short.
You need to hold stretch for at least 40 seconds in order to get a good stretch on the muscle fibres and for at least 3 or 4 reps. The soleus muscle which is underneath the main calf muscle is often over looked and needs to be stretched too.
I'd look into getting yourself a foam roller, they are brilliant for stretching out muscles. Only about 10 blips on amazon and well worth it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 13, 2011, 08:58:00 PM
- Define good running shoes - do they suit your gait?
- Running puts a bit more impact on the muscles / joints so any shortness in muscles / lack of stretching will be exposed. As BM says there are two main muscles so make sure to do them both mainly after a run.
- Try heel drops as well as they're eccentric exercises which should help lengthen the muscle. (stand on the edge of a step face forward and drop your heels of the step - very good stretch)

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on November 13, 2011, 09:15:28 PM
I used to get sore calves after doing beach/sand dune training. I assume it was caused by the heel sinking and putting more stress on the calf.

On that theory, try dropping your arms and being more upright when jogging, in the style of Michael Jordan (I think).





Disclaimer: This might cause other issues, like getting yoiu arrested for looking stupid.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 14, 2011, 10:12:07 AM
First off i wouldn't be bothered about other peoples time if you have started back, just enjoy it and don't put too much emphasis on times. My PB's were back when I was 17 and training like a mad yoke. PB for 5K was 15.42 and 10K is 35.17. Would be happy with sub 18 in the Castleblaney 5k, haven't done a tap of short speed work for months.

Jaysus, 15.42 is a savage time, even sub 18 is right going. Done a timed 5km yesterday on parkland route yesterday with a few moderate slopes in it with a tight enough one at the finish. Did 23.05 for it and was happy with that - haven't been out running in a few weeks. Hopefully shave a minute plus off that for the 5km on a the flat route and with a bit more running under the belt.

Plans for the 5km going well - Gerry and ken running together for first time, Gerry will also be giving a talk on the day to all interested runners. 3 international triathletes - Dessie Duffy, Liam Dolan and Karl Kildea will also go head-to-head. Plenty of interest and Hector was talking about it on 2fm this morning - Aoife Garragher of AA roadwatch would be a local girl and is doing it and give it a will plug on the air this morning.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 14, 2011, 12:04:11 PM
On a race day you'll always clip a nice bit off, no bother to you bingo. Sounds class, my knee has been at me since the marathon. The ITB insertion is inflammed and as soon as i run over 10 minutes it progressively gets worse. Need to take a few weeks off and commit myself to the proper rehab in order to stop it becoming worse and keeping me out for any longer. Have been blessed with injuries down through, stress fracture in the fibula when i was 17 and thats been it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 14, 2011, 12:20:59 PM
Yeah, Ballinaman, anything i've ever done in a race (not too many mind) I've surprised myself with my times. Have been throwing a few side bets on with a few younger fellas in the football club and they've been very generous in the handicaps they've given me, so aim to collect a few quid on the day  ;)

Sounds like you've been lucky, a few fellas reckon running will have its wear and tear injuries but the longer term injuries like ACL are few and far between with less twisting and turning.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on November 14, 2011, 08:46:41 PM
Weekly MR.

9:30 ever saturday morning. Just register and bring your barcode.

There are a couple of boys associated with your club who do it from time to time.

I saw that on their website, would def be very interested, just up the road from me.

Are there slow groups as well as fast? I'm thinking 5k in 27.5 mins or more to start with. Course I'd have to remain alcohol free on a Fri night for a while - which is no mean feat.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on November 14, 2011, 09:03:02 PM
Weekly MR.

9:30 ever saturday morning. Just register and bring your barcode.

There are a couple of boys associated with your club who do it from time to time.

I saw that on their website, would def be very interested, just up the road from me.

Are there slow groups as well as fast? I'm thinking 5k in 27.5 mins or more to start with. Course I'd have to remain alcohol free on a Fri night for a while - which is no mean feat.

You would fit in very well Rois. Just register on the website, then print off your barcode and turn up at 9:15am beside the playground.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 14, 2011, 09:06:38 PM
http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/results/latestresults (http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/results/latestresults)

There's a link to last week's results.

Everyone fits in at it - that's the good thing about it.  27.5 and you'd have plenty of runners around you - and behind you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trasna man on November 15, 2011, 12:56:22 PM
folks looking for your knowledge i have a fitness test in February for the refereeing happy to run around a field during play but my mind dies when doing laps which is 8 (3200m) in 15 minutes can't get nearer than 18.30 have been doing 5k the last 2 weeks from the front door round the local estate 1 every 2 day started at 35 minutes now down to 31 minutes very hilly run should i stick to the 5k run or should i be in the gym doing shorter runs on the treed mill to improve my speed before going for distance getting 2 different opinions
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 15, 2011, 05:05:21 PM
I would say do about thirty -forty minutes once a week(at a slow pace) to improve the fitness, some interval work and then do either a run or two more to get the fitness up or something else like biking / gym work. Intervals should be several reps of say 400 metres. Do say 4 by 400 and make sure that the pace of the first is the same as the pace of the last (otherwise they're too hard and you're not getting maximum benefit).

It may even make sense to do your intervals at the target pace. Increase the number of reps every week. Your 30/40 minute run should get easier.


Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 15, 2011, 07:11:55 PM
I would say do about thirty -forty minutes once a week(at a slow pace) to improve the fitness, some interval work and then do either a run or two more to get the fitness up or something else like biking / gym work. Intervals should be several reps of say 400 metres. Do say 4 by 400 and make sure that the pace of the first is the same as the pace of the last (otherwise they're too hard and you're not getting maximum benefit).

It may even make sense to do your intervals at the target pace. Increase the number of reps every week. Your 30/40 minute run should get easier.
Good advice there.
A nice session to do is minute on/minute off, on a trail route say. Stride out for a minute and then jog easy for a minute and repeat for 10 reps and you'll know all about it. 10 minute warm up, 20 minutes working hard and then 10 minutes warm down.

Can be progressed to 2 minutes on/1 off, for 8 reps or the dreaded 3 on, 2 off for 6 reps...killer.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trasna man on November 16, 2011, 10:53:48 AM
I would say do about thirty -forty minutes once a week(at a slow pace) to improve the fitness, some interval work and then do either a run or two more to get the fitness up or something else like biking / gym work. Intervals should be several reps of say 400 metres. Do say 4 by 400 and make sure that the pace of the first is the same as the pace of the last (otherwise they're too hard and you're not getting maximum benefit).

It may even make sense to do your intervals at the target pace. Increase the number of reps every week. Your 30/40 minute run should get easier.
Good advice there.
A nice session to do is minute on/minute off, on a trail route say. Stride out for a minute and then jog easy for a minute and repeat for 10 reps and you'll know all about it. 10 minute warm up, 20 minutes working hard and then 10 minutes warm down.

Can be progressed to 2 minutes on/1 off, for 8 reps or the dreaded 3 on, 2 off for 6 reps...killer.
thanks lads will give it a lash and see how i get on
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on November 16, 2011, 08:40:55 PM
Trasna man, as a matter of interest would there be many refs who can run two mile in 15 mins? Seems to be a steep enough test that one?
I was going to make a smart comment about refeering Rasharkin/Carrickmore/Dromore games but ill leave it this time......... ;)

Ballinaman/imtommygunn, i was wondering if you lads would have advice on how to lower my 10k time. I can run 5 miles in just under 34mins at ny best, but i cant get my 10k below 44. If i could keep my five mile pace going i would be hittin around 42.30. Am i too optimistic to expect this in your considered opinion?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 16, 2011, 09:03:35 PM
Trasna man, as a matter of interest would there be many refs who can run two mile in 15 mins? Seems to be a steep enough test that one?
I was going to make a smart comment about refeering Rasharkin/Carrickmore/Dromore games but ill leave it this time......... ;)

Ballinaman/imtommygunn, i was wondering if you lads would have advice on how to lower my 10k time. I can run 5 miles in just under 34mins at ny best, but i cant get my 10k below 44. If i could keep my five mile pace going i would be hittin around 42.30. Am i too optimistic to expect this in your considered opinion?

Are you running out for gas in the last 1.2 miles? A minimum of a 10 mile long run at the weekend, along with 2 speed sessions during the week and then 3 easy runs and a day off would be my training for 10Ks.
Sample 10k Training week

Monday - 5 Milles easy

Tuesday - Intervals,i.e 400m reps, minute on/minute off, 3x1 mile race pace reps with 3 min break between,

Wednesday- 6 Miles easy

Thursday- 5 miles easy

Friday - 4 Mile Fartlek (running hard for random lengths of time on a trail or cross country run) 5 Mile tempo run, raising the pace throughout the run so that fastest mile is from 2.5 to 3.5 and then lowering the pace to finish at same pace as you started. Hill work

Saturday- Off

Sunday - 10-12 easy Miles

Obviously that's a broad program, you'd increase/decrease reps and distances as you'd progress.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on November 16, 2011, 09:50:35 PM
Trasna man, as a matter of interest would there be many refs who can run two mile in 15 mins? Seems to be a steep enough test that one?
I was going to make a smart comment about refeering Rasharkin/Carrickmore/Dromore games but ill leave it this time......... ;)

Ballinaman/imtommygunn, i was wondering if you lads would have advice on how to lower my 10k time. I can run 5 miles in just under 34mins at ny best, but i cant get my 10k below 44. If i could keep my five mile pace going i would be hittin around 42.30. Am i too optimistic to expect this in your considered opinion?

Are you running out for gas in the last 1.2 miles? A minimum of a 10 mile long run at the weekend, along with 2 speed sessions during the week and then 3 easy runs and a day off would be my training for 10Ks.
Sample 10k Training week

Monday - 5 Milles easy

Tuesday - Intervals,i.e 400m reps, minute on/minute off, 3x1 mile race pace reps with 3 min break between,

Wednesday- 6 Miles easy

Thursday- 5 miles easy

Friday - 4 Mile Fartlek (running hard for random lengths of time on a trail or cross country run) 5 Mile tempo run, raising the pace throughout the run so that fastest mile is from 2.5 to 3.5 and then lowering the pace to finish at same pace as you started. Hill work

Saturday- Off

Sunday - 10-12 easy Miles

Obviously that's a broad program, you'd increase/decrease reps and distances as you'd progress.
Probably more a case of not really knowing my own optimum pace than running out of gas. But i would normally be struggling over last mile, even in a five miler. Judging by your program, i need to start training more, because i wouldnt do that in two weeks never mind one. Cheers for the advice !! Running a 10k this weekend, so ill have a time after that to improve on. Btw, what would suggest as a good easy pace for me at my current level?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2011, 11:13:41 PM
The key leaveherinsir is to do one tempo and one long run a week.

Now on top of that you should do another session of maybe something like 400s and then pad it out with easy running. I would recommend though doing hill drills to build strength first.

Your limiting factor if you're new to running will basically be aerobic fitness / strength so this is the key thing to develop.

Tempo run = 20 -30 minutes at 80-85% heart rate. This in non heart rate terms is "comfortably hard". What this means is that you couldn't converse however you can speak ok as your breathing shouldn't be too inhibited. As you get fitter you will just get faster so it will be as difficult for you each week. Before this you should warm up and afterwards warm down - i.e. this is not your whole session. If you're completely busted at the end of it you're going too hard. It can not be over-emphasised how beneficial tempo runs will be to your 10k time.

Fitness from football / hurling will only get you so far in running. You need to develop your base significantly when going from football / hurling.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2011, 11:17:42 PM
Trasna man, as a matter of interest would there be many refs who can run two mile in 15 mins? Seems to be a steep enough test that one?
I was going to make a smart comment about refeering Rasharkin/Carrickmore/Dromore games but ill leave it this time......... ;)

Ballinaman/imtommygunn, i was wondering if you lads would have advice on how to lower my 10k time. I can run 5 miles in just under 34mins at ny best, but i cant get my 10k below 44. If i could keep my five mile pace going i would be hittin around 42.30. Am i too optimistic to expect this in your considered opinion?

Are you running out for gas in the last 1.2 miles? A minimum of a 10 mile long run at the weekend, along with 2 speed sessions during the week and then 3 easy runs and a day off would be my training for 10Ks.
Sample 10k Training week

Monday - 5 Milles easy

Tuesday - Intervals,i.e 400m reps, minute on/minute off, 3x1 mile race pace reps with 3 min break between,

Wednesday- 6 Miles easy

Thursday- 5 miles easy

Friday - 4 Mile Fartlek (running hard for random lengths of time on a trail or cross country run) 5 Mile tempo run, raising the pace throughout the run so that fastest mile is from 2.5 to 3.5 and then lowering the pace to finish at same pace as you started. Hill work

Saturday- Off

Sunday - 10-12 easy Miles

Obviously that's a broad program, you'd increase/decrease reps and distances as you'd progress.
Probably more a case of not really knowing my own optimum pace than running out of gas. But i would normally be struggling over last mile, even in a five miler. Judging by your program, i need to start training more, because i wouldnt do that in two weeks never mind one. Cheers for the advice !! Running a 10k this weekend, so ill have a time after that to improve on. Btw, what would suggest as a good easy pace for me at my current level?

Easy would probably be around 8 minutes 30. Also doing a 10k on saturday. Seeley?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on November 17, 2011, 10:17:26 AM
http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/results/latestresults (http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/results/latestresults)

There's a link to last week's results.

Everyone fits in at it - that's the good thing about it.  27.5 and you'd have plenty of runners around you - and behind you.

Put on the runners for the first time since the Dublin half in Sep last night - jeez but I was slow, I don't think I'd even do 27.5 at the minute, not with the speed I ran 5.5k in last night.  Shocking!!  A few more weeks' training required before I try that Sat morn run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on November 17, 2011, 12:04:38 PM
Dont fall into that trap Rois. Get out there this Saturday and set a benchmark that shows steady improvement.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 17, 2011, 12:13:11 PM
It isn't really a race Rois. It's very relaxed. Seriously you should try one - I bet you would enjoy it independent of fitness level. Just set a benchmark and go from there. Sure who's going to mind what time you do?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on November 17, 2011, 05:53:34 PM
If this fecking rain keeps falling then I could be there again on Saturday too  :(

If I am then stay away from me because I will be as cross as a cross thing.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on November 17, 2011, 08:38:06 PM
Wouldn't mind doing a bit of that Orior over the winter - does it keep going this time of the year?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on November 17, 2011, 08:44:34 PM
Wouldn't mind doing a bit of that Orior over the winter - does it keep going this time of the year?

Looks like ir kept going last winter.

http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/results/eventhistory
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 17, 2011, 09:16:37 PM
It kept going every week during the big freeze. It's not a race - it's a run. So people are just advised to run carefully.

The parkrun goes right across the UK, even Australia, Denmark South Africa and now the states. Every week rain, hail or snow.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on November 17, 2011, 09:50:08 PM
Wouldn't mind doing a bit of that Orior over the winter - does it keep going this time of the year?

We'll all get GAABoard tshirts for it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on November 17, 2011, 10:03:03 PM
Just realising that opening statement sounded a bit dodgy. I don't want to do a bit of that Orior.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneman on November 18, 2011, 06:49:25 AM
Trasna- what county are you refereeing in? I know a few Senior Armagh referees who would be nowhere near 20min for 2 miles, let alone 15-16.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on November 18, 2011, 09:06:29 AM
Just realising that opening statement sounded a bit dodgy. I don't want to do a bit of that Orior.

How disappointing  :(

Maybe Rois would like a bit?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trasna man on November 18, 2011, 11:10:01 AM
Trasna man, as a matter of interest would there be many refs who can run two mile in 15 mins? Seems to be a steep enough test that one?
I was going to make a smart comment about refeering Rasharkin/Carrickmore/Dromore games but ill leave it this time......... ;)

Ballinaman/imtommygunn, i was wondering if you lads would have advice on how to lower my 10k time. I can run 5 miles in just under 34mins at ny best, but i cant get my 10k below 44. If i could keep my five mile pace going i would be hittin around 42.30. Am i too optimistic to expect this in your considered opinion?
the referees in Derry haven't had to do a fitness test for a few years now but i would think a good few would make it croke park are insisting on fitness tests for referees in all county's for next season
Title: Re: Running
Post by: trasna man on November 18, 2011, 11:15:52 AM
Trasna- what county are you refereeing in? I know a few Senior Armagh referees who would be nowhere near 20min for 2 miles, let alone 15-16.
i have been told Tyrone have a very strict fitness test which you must pass to get on the club championship panel even to do the line which is serious but i think the referees that want to progress give it a right go
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on November 18, 2011, 07:08:11 PM
Trasna man, as a matter of interest would there be many refs who can run two mile in 15 mins? Seems to be a steep enough test that one?
I was going to make a smart comment about refeering Rasharkin/Carrickmore/Dromore games but ill leave it this time......... ;)

Ballinaman/imtommygunn, i was wondering if you lads would have advice on how to lower my 10k time. I can run 5 miles in just under 34mins at ny best, but i cant get my 10k below 44. If i could keep my five mile pace going i would be hittin around 42.30. Am i too optimistic to expect this in your considered opinion?

Are you running out for gas in the last 1.2 miles? A minimum of a 10 mile long run at the weekend, along with 2 speed sessions during the week and then 3 easy runs and a day off would be my training for 10Ks.
Sample 10k Training week

Monday - 5 Milles easy

Tuesday - Intervals,i.e 400m reps, minute on/minute off, 3x1 mile race pace reps with 3 min break between,

Wednesday- 6 Miles easy

Thursday- 5 miles easy

Friday - 4 Mile Fartlek (running hard for random lengths of time on a trail or cross country run) 5 Mile tempo run, raising the pace throughout the run so that fastest mile is from 2.5 to 3.5 and then lowering the pace to finish at same pace as you started. Hill work

Saturday- Off

Sunday - 10-12 easy Miles

Obviously that's a broad program, you'd increase/decrease reps and distances as you'd progress.
Probably more a case of not really knowing my own optimum pace than running out of gas. But i would normally be struggling over last mile, even in a five miler. Judging by your program, i need to start training more, because i wouldnt do that in two weeks never mind one. Cheers for the advice !! Running a 10k this weekend, so ill have a time after that to improve on. Btw, what would suggest as a good easy pace for me at my current level?

Easy would probably be around 8 minutes 30. Also doing a 10k on saturday. Seeley?
Yep, running that race also. Good luck!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on November 20, 2011, 01:53:56 PM
46.55 for the 10k yesterday, way down on my best, went out too hard considering my lack of training in last few weeks. Gives me a target to aim for for the next one tho! How did you go imtommygunn?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 20, 2011, 03:25:46 PM
Low 37s, Was hoping for better but sure.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 20, 2011, 06:17:20 PM
Did 22.45 yesterday for 5km.

Got to 21.50 this morning. Bolding looking to beat 20 now in two weeks time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 01, 2011, 11:23:48 AM
The Castleblayney 5KM flat run on this Sunday, plenty of interest and bodies signed up already for anyone in the region that is interested.

I doubt i'll break the 20min mark. Did 21.22 last weekend in wet and windy conditions, so maybe if I get under 21min on the day, I'll be happy.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 01, 2011, 11:31:38 AM
Best of luck Bingo. Hope it goes well for you and the 20min mark will fall eventually even if its not this Sunday, weather might not be kind. Out with an ITB for the last few weeks so can't make the spin up but hope to be back training next week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 01, 2011, 11:44:37 AM
Best of luck Bingo. Hope it goes well for you and the 20min mark will fall eventually even if its not this Sunday, weather might not be kind. Out with an ITB for the last few weeks so can't make the spin up but hope to be back training next week.

Cheers Ballinaman.

Weather looks like it will be cold and light rain, hoping thats as bad as it gets  - no wind or heavy rain.

I'm going to start training for the longer distances after christmas - doing a Duathlon over in Castlebar in March - about 38km - run/bike/hiking up a mountain/hill. Then the Gaelforces as well. Dublin has a new city centre half marathon on August bank holiday, so eyeing that as well. If all going well at that stage, i'll take on the dublin marathon. I'd actually be happier going at longer, slower pace that busting trying to beat the clock. But time will tell, could well turn in new year and do feck all, but my pal is very motivated and is pushing me down this line.

Hope the injury clears up and you back on the flat in no time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on December 01, 2011, 11:54:06 AM
The duathlon in castlebar is a real toughie, the run is a killer, super steep on a cracked service road
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 01, 2011, 11:56:49 AM
The duathlon in castlebar is a real toughie, the run is a killer, super steep on a cracked service road

Yeah, been told that alright. Will be plenty of hill and trail running in new year, which isn't a problem round my way. Will be good prep for the two Gael Forces, North and West.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 05, 2011, 11:14:54 AM
5km went fierce well, about 450 done it on a cold december day!

My time was about 20.20, very happy with it. few pints after it....not so happy with that :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on December 05, 2011, 12:24:28 PM
5km went fierce well, about 450 done it on a cold december day!

My time was about 20.20, very happy with it. few pints after it....not so happy with that :)

Ah, the reason for exercise! ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on December 08, 2011, 08:32:27 PM
5km went fierce well, about 450 done it on a cold december day!

My time was about 20.20, very happy with it. few pints after it....not so happy with that :)
Good going!
Im running a 10k on Saturday at Drum Manor forest in Cookstown. Trail race,  2 laps, its a good one if any of the runners on here fancy it. Only £3/4 to enter. Starts at 12. And maybe ill sample a few of the aforementioned pints on saturday evening as way of reward!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 09, 2011, 02:38:09 PM
Sounds like a good run out, not make this one.

Is their a website for races, runs etc in NI, i know we have runireland.com but it doesn't seem to have too many NI runs on it which would suit me at times if I'm looking for a blow out the odd weekend.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on December 09, 2011, 03:03:59 PM
The fixture lists here are usually bang up to date.

http://www.athleticsni.org/Fixtures (http://www.athleticsni.org/Fixtures)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: junior9 on December 13, 2011, 07:46:49 PM
I was hoping for a bit of advice about a half marathon.  I started running in August with my only previous experience of the sport coming from GAA fields and the infamous opening lines at training of 'right lads, round the field, 10 laps'.  I've developed a fierce liking for the sport and having done a couple of fun runs, i've got my distances up to between 8 and 10 miles.  I've signed up for the Liverpool Half Marathon on 18th March (very considerate organisers! :-[) but don't really know what approach to take to training.  Should I build up my distance to 13.1 miles or more than that or less?  In the weeks coming up to it, should I be reducing the regularity of running or what?  Any advice would be gratefully received.  Thanks
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 13, 2011, 09:13:19 PM
Build up the time on your feet rather than distance... Dunno what you'll do a half marathon in but try and get your weekend run to be that. Long runs should be relatively easy - i.e. don't be busting yourself pacewise on them and build up.

During the week try and get one in of about an hour and a quarter or so - a reasonable distance.

Bingo pretty much every race in NI is on that site.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 14, 2011, 09:50:07 AM
Cheers for the NI calender link, will keep an eye on it.

Have a few run outs over Christmas, weather going well. 4 of us doing the Hell and Back 10km in Wicklow at end of January, seems a bit of craic and a tough enough run out.

Re the half marathon running, their is plenty of training plan available online. Gerry Duffy has a few on his website 32marathons. Not bad guides for building up distances. Few of the lads that would run locally would tell you much the same as Tommygun - all about getting the runs in the legs and building up to distance and you'll notice time improving with gentle pushes. One of the lads swears by doing hill running as building up the legs for distance running. But i am far from an expert on it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2011, 11:15:31 AM
http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=24629 (http://runningtimes.com/Article.aspx?ArticleID=24629)

Bingo great article on hills there. Running times is the best place on the web for training session stuff - great site.

Hills are massively beneficial and should be in your long run. Best to get some endurance on the flat first though...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 14, 2011, 11:17:57 AM
Cheers Tommy

I'll have a read of that. Its hard to avoid hills round our way so I've always tended to do a bit of both and would defo think that the hills and the step ones in particular really help.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: junior9 on December 14, 2011, 05:54:02 PM
thanks very much for the advice.  as i said, i've not long started and i want to keep at it.  my first aim would be just to finish the half marathon, i'm not really bothered about the time to begin with so i suppose you're right in saying build up to the distance.  another question if you don't mind me plaguing you, in this weather should i be wearing skins or compression tights etc in training?  are they worth the money?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 14, 2011, 06:33:20 PM
thanks very much for the advice.  as i said, i've not long started and i want to keep at it.  my first aim would be just to finish the half marathon, i'm not really bothered about the time to begin with so i suppose you're right in saying build up to the distance.  another question if you don't mind me plaguing you, in this weather should i be wearing skins or compression tights etc in training?  are they worth the money?
Never felt the need for leggings meself in the cold, shorts are always grand. Have a few cantebury under armour esque tops the i wear though in the cauld weather!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: junior9 on December 14, 2011, 07:15:17 PM
thanks very much for the advice.  as i said, i've not long started and i want to keep at it.  my first aim would be just to finish the half marathon, i'm not really bothered about the time to begin with so i suppose you're right in saying build up to the distance.  another question if you don't mind me plaguing you, in this weather should i be wearing skins or compression tights etc in training?  are they worth the money?
Never felt the need for leggings meself in the cold, shorts are always grand. Have a few cantebury under armour esque tops the i wear though in the cauld weather!

i have a few canterbury tops for the top half but was curious about the effectiveness of the leggings.  of course, if you read the product reviews from the manufacturers they are essential, i was just looking general opinions on them if anyone has a pair
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2011, 07:23:22 PM
Ronhill tracksters 12 quid on start fitness.

You're fine unless it gets towards minus. Temperatures last year you'd no choice but to wear the bottoms.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: junior9 on December 14, 2011, 07:31:22 PM
have any of you who live round the border ever done the armagh 10 mile road race?  or is it even still organised?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on December 14, 2011, 07:36:54 PM
have any of you who live round the border ever done the armagh 10 mile road race?  or is it even still organised?
you have missed this year, its on in October. Ran it last year, nice run.
Bingo, try the Greencastle 5 miler on Boxing Day, its some run. Remeber last year talking to a couple of lads from Emyvale on the way round. you'll run a good time too, especially with 400 odd Tyrone hallions running after you! Enough to help man set a PB!!  ;) :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: junior9 on December 14, 2011, 07:44:30 PM
glad to hear it's still going, i was involved in the organising of it about 10 years when i was on a student placement from university.  i might try to get back home for it next year if i haven't jacked the whole lot in by then
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 15, 2011, 05:58:26 PM
Leaveherinsir, the greencastle run sounds risky with all those tyrone heads about  ;) There is a local 5miler on St Stephens day, a small charity run, so I'll do it to take the turkey outa the system.

Emyvale actually having a 5/10km run on New Years Day, so if I avoid an outing or party on New Years eve, I'll do the 5km.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2012, 03:45:23 PM
http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/results/latestresults (http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/results/latestresults)

There's a link to last week's results.

Everyone fits in at it - that's the good thing about it.  27.5 and you'd have plenty of runners around you - and behind you.

Thinking of doing the run this weekend. I know its free and you need your bar code, so what time do most arrive at? 15 minutes before race? Do you have to register before the off? Parking? Cheers in advance lads
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on January 11, 2012, 04:18:21 PM
http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/results/latestresults (http://www.parkrun.org.uk/waterworks/results/latestresults)

There's a link to last week's results.

Everyone fits in at it - that's the good thing about it.  27.5 and you'd have plenty of runners around you - and behind you.

Thinking of doing the run this weekend. I know its free and you need your bar code, so what time do most arrive at? 15 minutes before race? Do you have to register before the off? Parking? Cheers in advance lads

Most people arrive about 9:15am. There is plenty of parking on the Cavehill Road opposite the police station.

No need to register at the start - you just show your bar code when you cross the finish line.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 11, 2012, 04:28:53 PM
Jan/Feb seem quiet enough months for runs/races/events etc.

8 of us have signed up for the 10km Hellandback challenge in Wicklow at end of January. 10km with a about 16 obsticles to navigate and a trip up the sugar loaf included as well. Should be a bit of craic if nothing else.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on January 11, 2012, 04:55:38 PM
Did that Greencastle "run" on Boxing Day - jeez was I unfit!!! 

Getting back to it now and whilst I could walk from my house to the Waterworks run, I still haven't reconciled myself to the idea of getting up that early on a Sat morn. 

I really need a 10k to start to aim for, but that Hellandback thing is NOT what I am looking for. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 11, 2012, 05:13:20 PM
Did that Greencastle "run" on Boxing Day - jeez was I unfit!!! 

Getting back to it now and whilst I could walk from my house to the Waterworks run, I still haven't reconciled myself to the idea of getting up that early on a Sat morn. 

I really need a 10k to start to aim for, but that Hellandback thing is NOT what I am looking for.

Sure why not. Its a great challenge. As i said very little to aim for in Jan/Feb, particularly up my way. Come February their is a few Duathlons on that i'm taking on with, once i dust the bike down.

Did 2 10km runs over Christmas - St Stephens Day and New years day. Did 43m 40s on new years day which I was very happy with, it would have been my 4th 10km run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2012, 09:40:13 PM
I know the running machine can't replicate running out on the roads, but I've got to start somewhere!! I ran 5k tonight at the gym on the machine, the time was 21.53. What would be the difference? Obviously I'd be slower outside.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: tintin25 on January 11, 2012, 09:49:49 PM
I know the running machine can't replicate running out on the roads, but I've got to start somewhere!! I ran 5k tonight at the gym on the machine, the time was 21.53. What would be the difference? Obviously I'd be slower outside.

Jez, I would have thought that was decent? What speed did ya have it on?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 11, 2012, 10:10:33 PM
I know the running machine can't replicate running out on the roads, but I've got to start somewhere!! I ran 5k tonight at the gym on the machine, the time was 21.53. What would be the difference? Obviously I'd be slower outside.

Jez, I would have thought that was decent? What speed did ya have it on?

Started on 8.5 mph for 16 mins and dropped it for a minute and a half then finished on 9.5 mph. I think I can go quicker on the machine but I'll wait and see what the roads do
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on January 11, 2012, 10:17:46 PM
I know the running machine can't replicate running out on the roads, but I've got to start somewhere!! I ran 5k tonight at the gym on the machine, the time was 21.53. What would be the difference? Obviously I'd be slower outside.
In my experience if you get a flat run on the road in good weather conditions you should be able to go faster than on a treadmill. Esp in a race, you get dragged along by the runners around you. Try for 7 mins per mile for the first two mile in a 5k and see if you can up it for the last mile and a bit! Good luck!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: cavan4sam on January 11, 2012, 10:32:15 PM
Bingo, let me know what duathlons are coming up? I wouldn't mind doing a few of these myself
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 13, 2012, 04:33:49 PM
Bingo, let me know what duathlons are coming up? I wouldn't mind doing a few of these myself

Sorry cavan4sam just seeing this now.
http://www.runireland.com/events/sportsman-duathlon-race-1 (http://www.runireland.com/events/sportsman-duathlon-race-1) Have doing a few of these in mind.

This is the target http://www.runireland.com/events/harlequin-adventure-duathlon (http://www.runireland.com/events/harlequin-adventure-duathlon)

The local club, Tri Muckno, have their annual Duathlon in Castleblayney on St Patricks day. Haven't finalised details yet.

If i hear of any others I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2012, 11:53:12 AM
Did my first Parkrun today, good craic and well run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: theskull1 on January 14, 2012, 01:41:00 PM
I know the running machine can't replicate running out on the roads, but I've got to start somewhere!! I ran 5k tonight at the gym on the machine, the time was 21.53. What would be the difference? Obviously I'd be slower outside.

must have been cart horse slow or else you'd be bummin and blowin  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 14, 2012, 02:15:53 PM
Did my first Parkrun today, good craic and well run.

Did it as well MR but forgot my bar code. Hadn't been running much recently so took it easy. I pushed past your clubmate at about 3 or 4k.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 14, 2012, 03:54:32 PM
I know the running machine can't replicate running out on the roads, but I've got to start somewhere!! I ran 5k tonight at the gym on the machine, the time was 21.53. What would be the difference? Obviously I'd be slower outside.

must have been cart horse slow or else you'd be bummin and blowin  :)

No bummin or blowing, finished up on 21.55, i could have done it a wee bit better, only three lads past me, two at the end (clubmate!!) and some bloke about 4k in. Probably imommygunn  ;)

So thats my target to beat next time i run, Fcuk it was cold
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on January 14, 2012, 04:55:20 PM
190 runners was a good turn out. When I did it on New Years Day there was only 41 eejits.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on January 14, 2012, 09:16:14 PM
Well done all. Def not trying it with those times you're posting...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2012, 10:58:10 AM
Well done all. Def not trying it with those times you're posting...

Those times were in the top 40 from 190 Rois, you genuinely have nothing to be worried about! A guy with a kid in a buggy ran it!

MR I was running with a workmateand we passed a guy starting the second lap who seemed to take issue and sped up a good bit. I suspect that was you...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on January 15, 2012, 12:26:29 PM
Well done all. Def not trying it with those times you're posting...

Those times were in the top 40 from 190 Rois, you genuinely have nothing to be worried about! A guy with a kid in a buggy ran it!

MR I was running with a workmateand we passed a guy starting the second lap who seemed to take issue and sped up a good bit. I suspect that was you...

The guy with the buggy has beaten me twice  :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2012, 03:13:34 PM
I was only passed late on imtommygunn. The guy with pram was just in front of me. Running with a good looking blade ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on January 15, 2012, 04:01:11 PM
Well done all. Def not trying it with those times you're posting...

Those times were in the top 40 from 190 Rois, you genuinely have nothing to be worried about! A guy with a kid in a buggy ran it!

MR I was running with a workmateand we passed a guy starting the second lap who seemed to take issue and sped up a good bit. I suspect that was you...

The guy with the buggy has beaten me twice  :(

Beat up the kid.  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 15, 2012, 05:24:49 PM
Well done all. Def not trying it with those times you're posting...

Those times were in the top 40 from 190 Rois, you genuinely have nothing to be worried about! A guy with a kid in a buggy ran it!

MR I was running with a workmateand we passed a guy starting the second lap who seemed to take issue and sped up a good bit. I suspect that was you...

The guy with the buggy has beaten me twice  :(

Beat up the kid.  ;)

He would if he could catch him :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 15, 2012, 10:13:59 PM
He gets carried down hills by that buggy - cheating...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 16, 2012, 09:50:18 AM
A few of the local runners always go for a sunday morning run - 9/10 miles. I've never done that distance before but been getting to it. So one of them suggested I come with them.

So I head and one of them who sets the route tells them he has a new route for them today.

Off we set and 13miles later, I am crawling home. Plus it was over the biggest hill in the area.

Was serious hard 2/3 miles to come home, run was more a slow jog and a shuffle!

At least its done now, wouldn't have went of I'd know what distance they were doing but only one of them knew.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Radda bout yeee on January 16, 2012, 11:26:34 AM
I bought a new pair of nike running trainers there and decided to get the app for the iphone. Has anyone on here used it? Is it any good or am I just a sucker for some Nike marketing?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 16, 2012, 04:34:19 PM
I don't use it but I've a mate who does and speaks well of it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: flantheman82 on January 16, 2012, 07:26:54 PM
Just got a quick question about the different heart rate zones. My main aim at the minute is to lose weight. When I start running at a fairly slow pace, bearing in mind I'm really unfit, I quickly reach close to my max heart rate. To reach the heart rate zones for fat burning, I have to walk briskly.
Does this make sense that just walking would enable me to lose more weight than running? Can't really understand the logic!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on January 16, 2012, 08:18:53 PM
The Runkeeper app records times, distances and maps, and it's free. Can't fault it myself.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 16, 2012, 10:25:09 PM
Just got a quick question about the different heart rate zones. My main aim at the minute is to lose weight. When I start running at a fairly slow pace, bearing in mind I'm really unfit, I quickly reach close to my max heart rate. To reach the heart rate zones for fat burning, I have to walk briskly.
Does this make sense that just walking would enable me to lose more weight than running? Can't really understand the logic!

Stop f**king eating  :D :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on January 16, 2012, 10:38:09 PM
That's a good time MR for a debut.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: flantheman82 on January 17, 2012, 07:06:28 AM
Just got a quick question about the different heart rate zones. My main aim at the minute is to lose weight. When I start running at a fairly slow pace, bearing in mind I'm really unfit, I quickly reach close to my max heart rate. To reach the heart rate zones for fat burning, I have to walk briskly.
Does this make sense that just walking would enable me to lose more weight than running? Can't really understand the logic!

Stop f**king eating  :D :D



I've been looking at that too but I've had no option but to cut out the fatty foods as I can't cope with them anymore. Have to get my gallbladder removed in next few months. Just waiting on a date. So at minute, hopefully not gaining weight. Just need to start losing it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on January 17, 2012, 08:06:31 AM
The Runkeeper app records times, distances and maps, and it's free. Can't fault it myself.

Yep, never had a problem with runkeeper.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2012, 09:34:02 AM
That's a good time MR for a debut.

I will probably try again the following Saturday and try and get a few more seconds off it. Need to regulate my breathing better i think. I never tried to sprint the last hundred yards or so. Longer legs would help  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Aerlik on January 17, 2012, 12:43:41 PM
Folks, I was supposed to do the 12kms City-to-Surf run in Perth last August and was travelling brave n well but got a nasty hand injury, about a month beforehand, which put me in a splint for two weeks as I severed two tendons so had to wear a finger cast.  Well, I couldn't run as the pain was feckin deadly at rest.  Anyhow, I was off sport of any kind for over three months.  Needless to say the fitness took a bit of a knock. 
However, I was trawling through the local online rag and found this website for a training regime for women.  Ignore the fact that it is advertised for hersell, I am using it and am making good steady progress.  I am going to do the 12kms again and am at Week 4 level, managing the 4kms under 20 minutes.  If I can get consistent sub-60 minute times by July, I may look at doing the 22kms to see if I can finish it.

I'm still using Mizuno shoes which I find have superb arch and heel support and are well aerated.  I have a fitting done when I go to buy new shoes.

Does any of the lads wear Skins-type clothing and if so is it worth the money or another gimmick?

Anyways, here is the site address:
http://www.bodyandsoul.com.au/collections/sydney+running+festival,135

Let's know what you think.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AQMP on January 17, 2012, 01:06:46 PM
For anyone based in the North West, there's a 10 mile run in Bundoran on 10th March

http://www.carabundoranrun.com/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 30, 2012, 10:11:56 AM
Did the hellandback yesterday outside Bray, what an event! I can see why the purist road runners mightn't be interested but for something different, its really good.

The weather really added to it and their was muck throught even without the actual challenges on the course that had alot of mud and water anyhow. 8 of us done it and all said they'be be back to have another craic at it.

Hats off to the fella in the swamp who thought he could plough through the middle rather than navigate the sides like everyone else and he came a cropper, covered from head to toe and had to dragged out by two lads as he struggled to get his footing in it. At least he got a washing in the river crossing about 1km further along.

Plenty of GAA jerseys on show as well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bridgegael on January 30, 2012, 11:19:51 AM
thinking of doin a marathon in june,  wat sort of miles should you ideally be doing in the run up to the event.  i am currently averaging  18mile per week.  i wont get running as much though when football starts up again nxt week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 30, 2012, 11:34:21 AM
thinking of doin a marathon in june,  wat sort of miles should you ideally be doing in the run up to the event.  i am currently averaging  18mile per week.  i wont get running as much though when football starts up again nxt week.

For taking on that run you'd be as well following a running plan - http://halhigdon.staging.racersites.com/ (http://halhigdon.staging.racersites.com/) seem to be very popular.

In fairness, I would find it very hard on the body to be doing such a run in the middle of a football season. Two completely different type of training and would put massive strain on the body. Maybe some of the other more experienced runners will advise but I know don't many who would take on the both.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 30, 2012, 09:22:54 PM
You'd be needing to be hitting your 18 miles and then some as your long run.

It all depends how seriously you want to take it but you'll not be playing much football for a few weeks after it. You could probably get by on 30 mile a week but the less preparation you do the more pain you will feel round it and the longer you will take to recover.

I wouldn't recommend it in the middle of a season. Dublin is in october and wouldn't clash as much with the football season.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Aerlik on February 16, 2012, 02:48:31 PM
For anyone based in the North West, there's a 10 mile run in Bundoran on 10th March

http://www.carabundoranrun.com/

I checked out that website and there are a couple of decent training programmes there. 

That link I attached before is loosely based on a Fartlek/Interval training programme.  I am enjoying it and have completed week 5.  Must admit I'm mainly running on a treadmill (with the occasional run with a mate) and the heat over here right now (and associated dehydration) is a major problem.  Fluid intake is vital.

There are a couple of 10Ks coming up so if I can get the time off work I'll run them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on February 16, 2012, 04:22:30 PM
For anyone based in the North West, there's a 10 mile run in Bundoran on 10th March

http://www.carabundoranrun.com/

I checked out that website and there are a couple of decent training programmes there. 

That link I attached before is loosely based on a Fartlek/Interval training programme.  I am enjoying it and have completed week 5.  Must admit I'm mainly running on a treadmill (with the occasional run with a mate) and the heat over here right now (and associated dehydration) is a major problem.  Fluid intake is vital.

There are a couple of 10Ks coming up so if I can get the time off work I'll run them.

post that link again aerlik if you dont mind, theres a good chap  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: No1 on February 17, 2012, 11:39:59 PM
10k race next Sunday fairly flat course with some beautiful scenery!

http://www.kilcliefgac.com/news/index.php#news_item1267 (http://www.kilcliefgac.com/news/index.php#news_item1267)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Aerlik on February 18, 2012, 10:20:47 AM
qyjj, check out the link on my post on p.31.

Also, ham,  can you do me a favour.  Can you measure the distance from the Diamond down Cabool, Movanagher road, up the Coleraine road, Mullan Road, down the Moneydig road across Drumsaragh, through Gortmacrane road, left at the chapel, right onto the Moneysallin road, left at Lisnagrot road and back into the Diamond.  I'd say it's about 15 miles.  I plan to run it when I'm home, to say I did it.  if you're up for it maybe awheena youse will join me. 

Failing that measure everywhere above, up to the chapel, then straight in the Drumagarner road to the town.  Oh, and if you do want to join me, blinkers on from the chapel to Creighton Hutchinson's...don't want anyone being sidetracked into the Point. ;)

there's a good chap. ;D

Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on February 20, 2012, 09:27:18 PM
qyjj, check out the link on my post on p.31.

Also, ham,  can you do me a favour.  Can you measure the distance from the Diamond down Cabool, Movanagher road, up the Coleraine road, Mullan Road, down the Moneydig road across Drumsaragh, through Gortmacrane road, left at the chapel, right onto the Moneysallin road, left at Lisnagrot road and back into the Diamond.  I'd say it's about 15 miles.  I plan to run it when I'm home, to say I did it.  if you're up for it maybe awheena youse will join me. 

Failing that measure everywhere above, up to the chapel, then straight in the Drumagarner road to the town.  Oh, and if you do want to join me, blinkers on from the chapel to Creighton Hutchinson's...don't want anyone being sidetracked into the Point. ;)

there's a good chap. ;D
Quityojibbajabba, did you run this at the weekend, or are you going to measure it in the car sir??  ;) :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: heganboy on February 21, 2012, 12:19:35 PM
qyjj, check out the link on my post on p.31.

Also, ham,  can you do me a favour.  Can you measure the distance from the Diamond down Cabool, Movanagher road, up the Coleraine road, Mullan Road, down the Moneydig road across Drumsaragh, through Gortmacrane road, left at the chapel, right onto the Moneysallin road, left at Lisnagrot road and back into the Diamond.  I'd say it's about 15 miles.  I plan to run it when I'm home, to say I did it.  if you're up for it maybe awheena youse will join me. 

Failing that measure everywhere above, up to the chapel, then straight in the Drumagarner road to the town.  Oh, and if you do want to join me, blinkers on from the chapel to Creighton Hutchinson's...don't want anyone being sidetracked into the Point. ;)

there's a good chap. ;D


Measure it yourself:
http://walking.about.com/library/walk/blgooglemap1.htm
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 21, 2012, 02:32:52 PM
http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome (http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome)

New city centre run round the streets of Dublin - 10km on the 29th April. Think i'll pencil it in, should be a decent flat route.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 21, 2012, 02:59:03 PM
Belfast's Titanic Quarter 10k the week before that, Sunday 22 April.  Also flat, run around the docks/east Belfast.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: LeoMc on February 21, 2012, 04:17:48 PM
qyjj, check out the link on my post on p.31.

Also, ham,  can you do me a favour.  Can you measure the distance from the Diamond down Cabool, Movanagher road, up the Coleraine road, Mullan Road, down the Moneydig road across Drumsaragh, through Gortmacrane road, left at the chapel, right onto the Moneysallin road, left at Lisnagrot road and back into the Diamond.  I'd say it's about 15 miles.  I plan to run it when I'm home, to say I did it.  if you're up for it maybe awheena youse will join me. 

Failing that measure everywhere above, up to the chapel, then straight in the Drumagarner road to the town.  Oh, and if you do want to join me, blinkers on from the chapel to Creighton Hutchinson's...don't want anyone being sidetracked into the Point. ;)

there's a good chap. ;D

www.mapmyrun.com is a good way of checking out the routes you are planning / have done.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 21, 2012, 04:26:08 PM
http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome (http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome)

New city centre run round the streets of Dublin - 10km on the 29th April. Think i'll pencil it in, should be a decent flat route.
looks good, will give it a lash.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on February 21, 2012, 04:36:34 PM
Can anyone recommend a good watch for keeping times and distances ran . A few of the lads that i know have gps watches .  i don't want something too expensive. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 21, 2012, 05:09:11 PM
Can anyone recommend a good watch for keeping times and distances ran . A few of the lads that i know have gps watches .  i don't want something too expensive.

You can't really go too wrong with a Garmin. I have one of the older models the 205 but it is quite bulky compared to some of the others.

The forerunner 110 is a very good basic model, does most of what you would want but it doesn't have a HR monitor which some runners use alot. The 110 is normal watch size, few of the lads got it recently as the price has come down and they very happy with it. You should get it for less than €100 online.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 21, 2012, 05:13:45 PM
http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome (http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome)

New city centre run round the streets of Dublin - 10km on the 29th April. Think i'll pencil it in, should be a decent flat route.
looks good, will give it a lash.

You fully mended then and back on the roads?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 21, 2012, 09:08:00 PM
http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome (http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome)

New city centre run round the streets of Dublin - 10km on the 29th April. Think i'll pencil it in, should be a decent flat route.
looks good, will give it a lash.

You fully mended then and back on the roads?
Aye, just getting back into it now..concentrating on strength in the gym till June and will have another crack at marathon training after Poland! Night race looks cool though for a bit of a blow out!be happy with sub 38 in april, haven't done a tap of speedwork in months, just 5 a side soccer.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on February 22, 2012, 02:26:33 PM
Can anyone recommend a good watch for keeping times and distances ran . A few of the lads that i know have gps watches .  i don't want something too expensive.

You can't really go too wrong with a Garmin. I have one of the older models the 205 but it is quite bulky compared to some of the others.

The forerunner 110 is a very good basic model, does most of what you would want but it doesn't have a HR monitor which some runners use alot. The 110 is normal watch size, few of the lads got it recently as the price has come down and they very happy with it. You should get it for less than €100 online.

Thanks for that Bingo .
Title: Re: Running
Post by: amallon on February 23, 2012, 08:05:04 AM
Mayobridge GAC are hosting a 10k run and 4k fun run/walk on the 5th May for anyone who is interested.  Join our facebook group if this sort of carryon appeals to you  http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/335381713170746/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 23, 2012, 09:18:59 AM
I'm just coming back from 7 months out with a back injury, was on the flat of my back for that time.
Back running this last two weeks, a couple of 5ks and up to 9k. I've also started back at the track with the athletics club, is it a good idea or should I get mileage up first?
My thinking is once a week won't hurt, it'll be a while before I can even manage all the runs, 5x800m last week, only managed 3
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 23, 2012, 10:02:22 AM
I'm just coming back from 7 months out with a back injury, was on the flat of my back for that time.
Back running this last two weeks, a couple of 5ks and up to 9k. I've also started back at the track with the athletics club, is it a good idea or should I get mileage up first?
My thinking is once a week won't hurt, it'll be a while before I can even manage all the runs, 5x800m last week, only managed 3
I'd say tip away with the mileage for about 6 weeks anyways to get a good base in. Once a week at this stage would be grand but i'd steer clear of the track if you can, the grass or even down the woods would have a bit more give than the track, ballina track ya?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 23, 2012, 10:54:17 AM
No, sure I steer clear of Ballina as much as I can  ;D

I'm based in Cork
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 23, 2012, 11:40:59 AM
No, sure I steer clear of Ballina as much as I can  ;D

I'm based in Cork
Sure i steer clear of that track too but I think you mean the town in general.... ;D

If it's a tartan track you'll be fine. One of the sections I did my thesis on runners was, injuries compared to surface. Worst to best was.....concrete,soft sand, road, asphalt track, woodland, tartan, hard sand, grass....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 23, 2012, 11:59:48 AM
Interesting that soft sand is worse than road
Title: Re: Running
Post by: EagleLord on February 23, 2012, 12:14:17 PM
Soft sand not good for you? But you hear of loads of teams, in Down anyway running on the beaches etc.  :-\
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 23, 2012, 12:46:35 PM
Interesting that soft sand is worse than road
More likely to develop calf strain and achilles problems from it, a lot of pressure on the fibres. Highest number of those type injuries came back from those who trained on it, would like to have another look at it again if i get the chance with a bigger subject number, had about 300 take part from athletic clubs in dublin.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on February 23, 2012, 01:32:48 PM
Surely a hell of a lot more ankle injuries on grass as opposed to any of the other surfaces??

A lot of things are starting to fit together here...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 23, 2012, 01:46:40 PM
Surely a hell of a lot more ankle injuries on grass as opposed to any of the other surfaces??
No
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 28, 2012, 03:19:07 PM
http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome (http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome)

New city centre run round the streets of Dublin - 10km on the 29th April. Think i'll pencil it in, should be a decent flat route.
Would get stakes on to anyone interested in doing this. 5,000 limit and its filling quickly according to a lad i know in the AAI.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 28, 2012, 03:27:41 PM
http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome (http://www.samsungnightrun.com./#headerhome)

New city centre run round the streets of Dublin - 10km on the 29th April. Think i'll pencil it in, should be a decent flat route.
Would get stakes on to anyone interested in doing this. 5,000 limit and its filling quickly according to a lad i know in the AAI.

Cheers, was waiting on a few others to confirm if they doing it, so will get them sorted and sign up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneman on March 10, 2012, 08:56:24 AM
Have been doing a fair bit of running over past 6 months to point where I can do a 10k handy enough.

Problem is I have become very 1 paced. I am taking part in a 100m race in August - what training do I need to be at?

Is it weight for quads, calf and hamstrings in the gym or simply doing a lot of a lot of 100-200m runs?


Grateful for any help....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 10, 2012, 09:02:43 AM
Are all your runs at one pace? Start picking up between points in runs, do tempos, do shorter reps etc.

If you're interested in 100 / 200 speed then best start would be to start doing reps of shorter sprints. (< 100 metres). You can build in pliometrics but best start is probably to maximise what you've got and ensure if you want to increase your speed you target your speed when you train...

If it's longer distance speed then runs called tempos, fartleks in longer runs and hill reps / 400 reps are ideal.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: amallon on March 12, 2012, 08:53:57 PM
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I haven't done any running before but went for a quick run tonight, did 2k in 13mins and was fairly wrecked.  Any advice on what I need to do to finish this 10k would be appreciated.  Its a fairly tough hilly 10k as well.  Can anyone recomend a good android app which might help me pace myself and keep track of runs.  Cheers
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 22, 2012, 02:50:08 PM
Harlequin Duathlon this Saturday morning in Castlebar - 36km altogether with 22km of it on bike. Will be tough, thoughts I'd have more done on the bike but will struggle through it anyway. Don't think I'll have to worry about a speach after it anyway.

Done a local Duathlon on Paddys day, the run was strong but bike is weak.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 22, 2012, 06:56:45 PM
Best of luck Bingo. I've never ran a race in Castlebar, not really a running stronghold in Mayo so I can't give you a heads up on a potential course. Can't imagine too many savage hills especially if ye are going out the main Dublin road, fairly flat.

Great half marathon on May 12th in Ballina if anyone is interested. Great course and well organised, good crowd too and big crowd over from Leeds AC who take part every year.

http://www.rivermoymarathon.ie/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 23, 2012, 10:36:09 AM
Best of luck Bingo. I've never ran a race in Castlebar, not really a running stronghold in Mayo so I can't give you a heads up on a potential course. Can't imagine too many savage hills especially if ye are going out the main Dublin road, fairly flat.

Great half marathon on May 12th in Ballina if anyone is interested. Great course and well organised, good crowd too and big crowd over from Leeds AC who take part every year.

http://www.rivermoymarathon.ie/

Cheers, as far as i know its a hilly enough race. Hills on first cycle out to a bigger hill to run up and down - known locally as the Boaster?

I'll give it a go anyway.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 23, 2012, 01:25:40 PM
Best of luck Bingo. I've never ran a race in Castlebar, not really a running stronghold in Mayo so I can't give you a heads up on a potential course. Can't imagine too many savage hills especially if ye are going out the main Dublin road, fairly flat.

Great half marathon on May 12th in Ballina if anyone is interested. Great course and well organised, good crowd too and big crowd over from Leeds AC who take part every year.

http://www.rivermoymarathon.ie/

Cheers, as far as i know its a hilly enough race. Hills on first cycle out to a bigger hill to run up and down - known locally as the Boaster?

I'll give it a go anyway.
Aye, the booster. trained there once. The first 1/2 km of it is an incline, flating out then a bit and downhill until about 2km, then the incline begins and is steady for the next 2km or so. Then its turn and back down the 4km, all tarmac.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2012, 10:36:48 AM
I looking a new pair of trainers, Looking something reasonably priced but a decent shoe all the same. I'm running 4 days a week albeit at the gym but with the good weather I'll possibly be out on the toe path.

I'm off to the States in July so was thinking of holding out till then and maybe getting better value and choice over there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 27, 2012, 11:40:39 AM
start fitness or sweatshop.co.uk are good places for cheaper gear online MR.

You'd not go far wrong with asics.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on March 27, 2012, 02:28:26 PM
I looking a new pair of trainers, Looking something reasonably priced but a decent shoe all the same. I'm running 4 days a week albeit at the gym but with the good weather I'll possibly be out on the toe path.

I'm off to the States in July so was thinking of holding out till then and maybe getting better value and choice over there.

Go to a proper running store and get fitted by people who know what they are doing. Eg. in Belfast "Up & Running" http://www.upandrunning.co.uk/belfast.html . They have a treadmill where they will video you running before suggesting something.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 30, 2012, 01:59:56 PM
Patsy Kelly 5km race on in Dundalk tomorrow evening. Fairly flat 5km and Glan Na Gael GFC are involved in the running of it. Registration open until 5.30 at the Glans clubhouse, race at 6.30.

Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Aerlik on April 01, 2012, 09:06:42 AM
Disappointed not to run in today's Asics Bridges 5km run.  Had a stomach infection and had a 4-week spell off training and only returned last week.  Then the nephew arrived on the scene from Sydney...near liver failure on Friday night  ;D ... no state to do it.

Several races coming up in the next few months in the Perth area if anyone on here is in the area and interested.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on April 01, 2012, 09:12:10 AM
Ran the Omagh Half Marathon yesterday. P.B. 1:38:43!! Delighted with the time, wasnt even considering running under 1;40 beforehand!  :D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 01, 2012, 09:19:15 AM
fair play, great running
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 01, 2012, 09:49:24 AM
Ran the 5km in Dundalk, great event, great course and great support on route. I flew out as I hoping first sub 20. Blew up in last km and seemed to go back ways. Just couldn't keep pace up. Finished in 20m 8sec. Bit disappointing but hadn't done anything all week after the harlequin last Saturday, it didn't leave the legs till Thursday.

Onward anyway, few 10kms coming up before the Dundalk half.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 01, 2012, 10:05:24 AM
Well done bingo, last weekends race would have taken zip out of the legs for the last few km's alright. I remember reading somewhere that it roughly takes a day per mile raced to recover fully.

Is the Dundalk half on a Wednesday?? What time does it start?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneboi on April 01, 2012, 10:08:12 AM
Ran the 5km in Dundalk, great event, great course and great support on route. I flew out as I hoping first sub 20. Blew up in last km and seemed to go back ways. Just couldn't keep pace up. Finished in 20m 8sec. Bit disappointing but hadn't done anything all week after the harlequin last Saturday, it didn't leave the legs till Thursday.

Onward anyway, few 10kms coming up before the Dundalk half.

Fair play to ya thats a great time. I was contemplating doing Omagh over the last week or so but just didn't have the miles in the legs to get it done! I'm thinking about doing the Newry half in June anyone done it before?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 01, 2012, 10:29:40 AM
Well done bingo, last weekends race would have taken zip out of the legs for the last few km's alright. I remember reading somewhere that it roughly takes a day per mile raced to recover fully.

Is the Dundalk half on a Wednesday?? What time does it start?

I'll well believe it. I had planned to do a few km on rhursday or Friday to stretch the legs and open the lungs but couldn't get out.

The half is on 9th of may, it's an evening run alright. By all accounts it's a flat course on a circuit that is run twice. 10km on same night.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on April 01, 2012, 11:41:25 AM
Ran the 5km in Dundalk, great event, great course and great support on route. I flew out as I hoping first sub 20. Blew up in last km and seemed to go back ways. Just couldn't keep pace up. Finished in 20m 8sec. Bit disappointing but hadn't done anything all week after the harlequin last Saturday, it didn't leave the legs till Thursday.

Onward anyway, few 10kms coming up before the Dundalk half.

Fair play to ya thats a great time. I was contemplating doing Omagh over the last week or so but just didn't have the miles in the legs to get it done! I'm thinking about doing the Newry half in June anyone done it before?
never ran Newry before, but if you are looking for a run, there is a 5 miler in Magherafelt on Saturday 14th April, or a 10k the following day in Armagh
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 01, 2012, 06:47:46 PM
Ran the 5km in Dundalk, great event, great course and great support on route. I flew out as I hoping first sub 20. Blew up in last km and seemed to go back ways. Just couldn't keep pace up. Finished in 20m 8sec. Bit disappointing but hadn't done anything all week after the harlequin last Saturday, it didn't leave the legs till Thursday.

Onward anyway, few 10kms coming up before the Dundalk half.

Fair play to ya thats a great time. I was contemplating doing Omagh over the last week or so but just didn't have the miles in the legs to get it done! I'm thinking about doing the Newry half in June anyone done it before?

Considering doing that one myself. I think a lot is kind of tow path running. I hear there's a hill at 8 or 9 mile but a lot of the rest of it is relatively flat. Never done it though but just what I hear.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 07:13:05 PM
I'm reckon i am about two stone overweight (about 14st4 atm)so need to start getting fit and losing a few pounds.
I bought an app on iTunes called Couch to 5k which is a training program that gives you running/walking routines to do every week for about 8 weeks.
Basically week 1 you do a 45 min program 3 nighs a week where you run for 30secs then walk for 4 mins then continue on that pattern running then walking, each week the running part gets longer and the walking getting shorter right till you can run 5k none stop.
Anyone tried anything like this and is it a good way to get into running?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: SHEEDY on April 01, 2012, 07:15:02 PM
Ran the 5km in Dundalk, great event, great course and great support on route. I flew out as I hoping first sub 20. Blew up in last km and seemed to go back ways. Just couldn't keep pace up. Finished in 20m 8sec. Bit disappointing but hadn't done anything all week after the harlequin last Saturday, it didn't leave the legs till Thursday.

Onward anyway, few 10kms coming up before the Dundalk half.

Fair play to ya thats a great time. I was contemplating doing Omagh over the last week or so but just didn't have the miles in the legs to get it done! I'm thinking about doing the Newry half in June anyone done it before?

Considering doing that one myself. I think a lot is kind of tow path running. I hear there's a hill at 8 or 9 mile but a lot of the rest of it is relatively flat. Never done it though but just what I hear.
your spot on. done it last year. starts with a lap of the town then out the towpath towards tandragee. loops back towards newry with a long stretch along the tow path and finishes outside buttercrane shopping centre. towpath stretch can be a bit boring if your running on your own. would recommend it though. well run and organised.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 01, 2012, 07:18:08 PM
I'm reckon i am about two stone overweight (about 14st4 atm)so need to start getting fit and losing a few pounds.
I bought an app on iTunes called Couch to 5k which is a training program that gives you running/walking routines to do every week for about 8 weeks.
Basically week 1 you do a 45 min program 3 nighs a week where you run for 30secs then walk for 4 mins then continue on that pattern running then walking, each week the running part gets longer and the walking getting shorter right till you can run 5k none stop.
Anyone tried anything like this and is it a good way to get into running?

Whatever gets you off your ass is a start. Follow that plan with an 8 week balanced diet also Laoislad. Weight will eventually drop off, I hate running, but manage to do 5k 4 days a week. For me it's the best way to lose the belly.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2012, 07:36:01 PM
I'm reckon i am about two stone overweight (about 14st4 atm)so need to start getting fit and losing a few pounds.
I bought an app on iTunes called Couch to 5k which is a training program that gives you running/walking routines to do every week for about 8 weeks.
Basically week 1 you do a 45 min program 3 nighs a week where you run for 30secs then walk for 4 mins then continue on that pattern running then walking, each week the running part gets longer and the walking getting shorter right till you can run 5k none stop.
Anyone tried anything like this and is it a good way to get into running?
I had lost a reasonable amount of weight up to Christmas but work has been nuts since then so getting home late and eating a lot of shite from vending machines in work. The weather of the past week seems to have got a lot of people out again.

Had a look at that app. You doing the timed or distance plan?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 01, 2012, 07:37:15 PM
http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/beginners/get-started-schedules/30.html (http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/beginners/get-started-schedules/30.html)

Runners world plan for run-walk. I've heard good reports about it too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2012, 07:45:15 PM
http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/beginners/get-started-schedules/30.html (http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/beginners/get-started-schedules/30.html)

Runners world plan for run-walk. I've heard good reports about it too.
Cheers tommy. Seems like a good starting point (as well as not eating crisps and Yorkies out of the machine at work every day!).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 07:52:46 PM
I'm reckon i am about two stone overweight (about 14st4 atm)so need to start getting fit and losing a few pounds.
I bought an app on iTunes called Couch to 5k which is a training program that gives you running/walking routines to do every week for about 8 weeks.
Basically week 1 you do a 45 min program 3 nighs a week where you run for 30secs then walk for 4 mins then continue on that pattern running then walking, each week the running part gets longer and the walking getting shorter right till you can run 5k none stop.
Anyone tried anything like this and is it a good way to get into running?
I had lost a reasonable amount of weight up to Christmas but work has been nuts since then so getting home late and eating a lot of shite from vending machines in work. The weather of the past week seems to have got a lot of people out again.

Had a look at that app. You doing the timed or distance plan?
Timed.
You run the app when you set off and it tells you when to run and when to walk, I also run Runkeeper when I set off and most evenings I'm doing about 4.5k between the running and walking which is for 45mins for week 1.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 01, 2012, 09:53:32 PM
I'm reckon i am about two stone overweight (about 14st4 atm)so need to start getting fit and losing a few pounds.
I bought an app on iTunes called Couch to 5k which is a training program that gives you running/walking routines to do every week for about 8 weeks.
Basically week 1 you do a 45 min program 3 nighs a week where you run for 30secs then walk for 4 mins then continue on that pattern running then walking, each week the running part gets longer and the walking getting shorter right till you can run 5k none stop.
Anyone tried anything like this and is it a good way to get into running?
I had lost a reasonable amount of weight up to Christmas but work has been nuts since then so getting home late and eating a lot of shite from vending machines in work. The weather of the past week seems to have got a lot of people out again.

Had a look at that app. You doing the timed or distance plan?
Timed.
You run the app when you set off and it tells you when to run and when to walk, I also run Runkeeper when I set off and most evenings I'm doing about 4.5k between the running and walking which is for 45mins for week 1.

Right!

I am well overweight and haven't trained in years. But I like the look of that App. 8 weeks, will bring us to the end of May.

Day 1 Week will happen in the next few days. I will be back to update regarding the App if I actually make it to day 2 week 1.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 09:56:12 PM
I'm reckon i am about two stone overweight (about 14st4 atm)so need to start getting fit and losing a few pounds.
I bought an app on iTunes called Couch to 5k which is a training program that gives you running/walking routines to do every week for about 8 weeks.
Basically week 1 you do a 45 min program 3 nighs a week where you run for 30secs then walk for 4 mins then continue on that pattern running then walking, each week the running part gets longer and the walking getting shorter right till you can run 5k none stop.
Anyone tried anything like this and is it a good way to get into running?
I had lost a reasonable amount of weight up to Christmas but work has been nuts since then so getting home late and eating a lot of shite from vending machines in work. The weather of the past week seems to have got a lot of people out again.

Had a look at that app. You doing the timed or distance plan?
Timed.
You run the app when you set off and it tells you when to run and when to walk, I also run Runkeeper when I set off and most evenings I'm doing about 4.5k between the running and walking which is for 45mins for week 1.

Right!

I am well overweight and haven't trained in years. But I like the look of that App. 8 weeks, will bring us to the end of May.

Day 1 Week will happen in the next few days. I will be back to update regarding the App if I actually make it to day 2 week 1.

I have Day 2 Week 1 done,was suppose to do Day 3 tonight but didn't get round to it but will go tomorrow night.
btw there are a few different apps that do the same,the one I'm using is this one http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/run-5k/id313494823?mt=8
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2012, 10:00:13 PM
I'm reckon i am about two stone overweight (about 14st4 atm)so need to start getting fit and losing a few pounds.
I bought an app on iTunes called Couch to 5k which is a training program that gives you running/walking routines to do every week for about 8 weeks.
Basically week 1 you do a 45 min program 3 nighs a week where you run for 30secs then walk for 4 mins then continue on that pattern running then walking, each week the running part gets longer and the walking getting shorter right till you can run 5k none stop.
Anyone tried anything like this and is it a good way to get into running?
I had lost a reasonable amount of weight up to Christmas but work has been nuts since then so getting home late and eating a lot of shite from vending machines in work. The weather of the past week seems to have got a lot of people out again.

Had a look at that app. You doing the timed or distance plan?
Timed.
You run the app when you set off and it tells you when to run and when to walk, I also run Runkeeper when I set off and most evenings I'm doing about 4.5k between the running and walking which is for 45mins for week 1.

Right!

I am well overweight and haven't trained in years. But I like the look of that App. 8 weeks, will bring us to the end of May.

Day 1 Week will happen in the next few days. I will be back to update regarding the App if I actually make it to day 2 week 1.

I have Day 2 Week 1 done,was suppose to do Day 3 tonight but didn't get round to it but will go tomorrow night.
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Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 01, 2012, 10:06:09 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Tony,my wife said I'd never do it,now I have two people too prove wrong  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 01, 2012, 10:14:24 PM
Is it a bad omen to make a resolution on April Fool's Day?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 01, 2012, 11:08:25 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Tony,my wife said I'd never do it,now I have two people too prove wrong  :)
I'm gonna give it a lash too. Having a last couple of glasses of wine and some crisps. A new me starts tomorrow. Or Tuesday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 02, 2012, 12:13:41 PM
The couch to 5k plans are great and the way to go for sure. Far better than just heading out and trying to run. The missus started one last Oct and done a 5km race in December, she wouldn't have run up the stairs before that. Now she is doing a 10km plan.

Their is also online plans for all types of goals - fat burning, fast 5km, first 5km, etc etc.

I started running again last summer and its amazing all the different aspects to it now. If i do 3/4 runs a week - all are to cover different aspects from slow, long runs, to short fast runs to Interval running to hill running etc etc. Far more to it that just running if thats what you want from it. Of course other people I know will just run for the enjoyment and thats fine as well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: EC Unique on April 02, 2012, 12:32:22 PM
What height are you LL?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 02, 2012, 02:10:57 PM
Well done bingo, last weekends race would have taken zip out of the legs for the last few km's alright. I remember reading somewhere that it roughly takes a day per mile raced to recover fully.

Is the Dundalk half on a Wednesday?? What time does it start?

I'll well believe it. I had planned to do a few km on rhursday or Friday to stretch the legs and open the lungs but couldn't get out.

The half is on 9th of may, it's an evening run alright. By all accounts it's a flat course on a circuit that is run twice. 10km on same night.
Sound Bingo, think i might have to give it a miss seeing as the Ballina half marathon is on the saturday, have to give it a right go this year. Was my first ever half last year and did it in 1.33....should clip a nice bit off it this year anyways. Looking at the Boyne 10km in Drogheda on May 6th, anyone ever do it? Heard it supposed to be hilly enough.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 02, 2012, 02:23:00 PM
Sound Bingo, think i might have to give it a miss seeing as the Ballina half marathon is on the saturday, have to give it a right go this year. Was my first ever half last year and did it in 1.33....should clip a nice bit off it this year anyways. Looking at the Boyne 10km in Drogheda on May 6th, anyone ever do it? Heard it supposed to be hilly enough.

I'm suppose to be doing the Boyne 10km on the 6th. Its a bit close to the Dundalk half, so have to decide yet. More obliged to the Boyne 10km as a friend is doing a run from Claremorris to Drogheda in 5 days - a marathon a day in July. Its for The Tania McCabe foundation and the charity also host the Boyne 10km, so he is been introduced at the 10km and asked if we'd be on hand to support him as his fundraising kicks off. He was in alot of the national papers on it last week.

I would imagine that their is a few hills in it as Drogheda is more of less on a hill. But i think alot of it is run by the Boyne itself, so that should mean its largely flat. 33mins won it last year.

Having another craic at a 5km this Monday, back in Dundalk as well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 02, 2012, 02:27:15 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Tony,my wife said I'd never do it,now I have two people too prove wrong  :)
I'm gonna give it a lash too. Having a last couple of glasses of wine and some crisps. A new me starts tomorrow. Or Tuesday.
Bought a pair of Asics there at lunch time so I have no excuses now.
I ate  3 easter eggs over weekend(3 for €5 in Tesco!) so gonna start again tonight with Day 1 Week 1 and do it for next 8 weeks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 02, 2012, 02:36:40 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Tony,my wife said I'd never do it,now I have two people too prove wrong  :)
I'm gonna give it a lash too. Having a last couple of glasses of wine and some crisps. A new me starts tomorrow. Or Tuesday.
Bought a pair of Asics there at lunch time so I have no excuses now.
I ate  3 easter eggs over weekend(3 for €5 in Tesco!) so gonna start again tonight with Day 1 Week 1 and do it for next 8 weeks.

Fair play and best of luck. Don't be scared of rewarding yourself during it, can help the motivation at times!

Hope you availed of the scrappage scheme for the asics.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2012, 03:10:00 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Tony,my wife said I'd never do it,now I have two people too prove wrong  :)
I'm gonna give it a lash too. Having a last couple of glasses of wine and some crisps. A new me starts tomorrow. Or Tuesday.
Bought a pair of Asics there at lunch time so I have no excuses now.
I ate  3 easter eggs over weekend(3 for €5 in Tesco!) so gonna start again tonight with Day 1 Week 1 and do it for next 8 weeks.

Fair play and best of luck. Don't be scared of rewarding yourself during it, can help the motivation at times!

Hope you availed of the scrappage scheme for the asics.

What scrappage scheme?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 02, 2012, 03:14:22 PM
Sound Bingo, think i might have to give it a miss seeing as the Ballina half marathon is on the saturday, have to give it a right go this year. Was my first ever half last year and did it in 1.33....should clip a nice bit off it this year anyways. Looking at the Boyne 10km in Drogheda on May 6th, anyone ever do it? Heard it supposed to be hilly enough.

I'm suppose to be doing the Boyne 10km on the 6th. Its a bit close to the Dundalk half, so have to decide yet. More obliged to the Boyne 10km as a friend is doing a run from Claremorris to Drogheda in 5 days - a marathon a day in July. Its for The Tania McCabe foundation and the charity also host the Boyne 10km, so he is been introduced at the 10km and asked if we'd be on hand to support him as his fundraising kicks off. He was in alot of the national papers on it last week.

I would imagine that their is a few hills in it as Drogheda is more of less on a hill. But i think alot of it is run by the Boyne itself, so that should mean its largely flat. 33mins won it last year.

Having another craic at a 5km this Monday, back in Dundalk as well.
Cool, I think i'll give it a run, be nice to have the samsung 10km and another one in the legs before the half marathon, good to know where i'm at. I'd be happy to donate if you drop us a PM.

Fair play LL, we'll have you hooked yet!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 02, 2012, 03:16:16 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Tony,my wife said I'd never do it,now I have two people too prove wrong  :)
I'm gonna give it a lash too. Having a last couple of glasses of wine and some crisps. A new me starts tomorrow. Or Tuesday.
Bought a pair of Asics there at lunch time so I have no excuses now.
I ate  3 easter eggs over weekend(3 for €5 in Tesco!) so gonna start again tonight with Day 1 Week 1 and do it for next 8 weeks.

Fair play and best of luck. Don't be scared of rewarding yourself during it, can help the motivation at times!

Hope you availed of the scrappage scheme for the asics.

What scrappage scheme?
25% asics runners in lifestyle sports when you bring in an old pair (any brand) to be recycled. Savage deal, got the 2070's on Saturday. Offer ends at the end of the week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2012, 03:31:42 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Tony,my wife said I'd never do it,now I have two people too prove wrong  :)
I'm gonna give it a lash too. Having a last couple of glasses of wine and some crisps. A new me starts tomorrow. Or Tuesday.
Bought a pair of Asics there at lunch time so I have no excuses now.
I ate  3 easter eggs over weekend(3 for €5 in Tesco!) so gonna start again tonight with Day 1 Week 1 and do it for next 8 weeks.

Fair play and best of luck. Don't be scared of rewarding yourself during it, can help the motivation at times!

Hope you availed of the scrappage scheme for the asics.

What scrappage scheme?
25% asics runners in lifestyle sports when you bring in an old pair (any brand) to be recycled. Savage deal, got the 2070's on Saturday. Offer ends at the end of the week.

That's a fair deal
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 03, 2012, 06:04:16 PM
Day 1 Week 1: Downloaded App.

Pretty wrecked.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 03, 2012, 06:08:14 PM
Day 1 Week 1: Downloaded App.

I'll keep you updated.

I started on Day 1 again.
Downloaded a different app and it's much tougher than other. 60secs run 90secs walk for 30mins for week 1. Other app was 30secs run 4mins walk so was a bit too handy.
Day 1 Week 1 done last night 4.8km between running and walking in 33mins. Day 2 tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 03, 2012, 06:13:13 PM
Thanks for the encouragement Tony,my wife said I'd never do it,now I have two people too prove wrong  :)
I'm gonna give it a lash too. Having a last couple of glasses of wine and some crisps. A new me starts tomorrow. Or Tuesday.
Bought a pair of Asics there at lunch time so I have no excuses now.
I ate  3 easter eggs over weekend(3 for €5 in Tesco!) so gonna start again tonight with Day 1 Week 1 and do it for next 8 weeks.

Fair play and best of luck. Don't be scared of rewarding yourself during it, can help the motivation at times!

Hope you availed of the scrappage scheme for the asics.

Didn't know there was a scrappage scheme.
The pair I got were €50 down from €75 in Elverys .
Asics Gel Enduro 7 with a nice black and orange combo colour scheme!
Didn't want to spend a fortune in case I quit half way through. :-[
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on April 04, 2012, 10:25:04 AM
Well done bingo, last weekends race would have taken zip out of the legs for the last few km's alright. I remember reading somewhere that it roughly takes a day per mile raced to recover fully.

Is the Dundalk half on a Wednesday?? What time does it start?

I'll well believe it. I had planned to do a few km on rhursday or Friday to stretch the legs and open the lungs but couldn't get out.

The half is on 9th of may, it's an evening run alright. By all accounts it's a flat course on a circuit that is run twice. 10km on same night.
Sound Bingo, think i might have to give it a miss seeing as the Ballina half marathon is on the saturday, have to give it a right go this year. Was my first ever half last year and did it in 1.33....should clip a nice bit off it this year anyways. Looking at the Boyne 10km in Drogheda on May 6th, anyone ever do it? Heard it supposed to be hilly enough.

i was half thinking of doing this Ballinaman . Ran 16k the other day and didn't feel too bad . Is it a tough route ? I thought that 45yo yo's entry fee is a bit steep but maybe it's the going rate for these events.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 04, 2012, 11:36:25 AM
45yoyos is about right, you get a very generous goody bag in fairness to them and the t-shirt is decent too. It's well organised and the chip timing is good too. I did it last year for the 1st time and was impressed. It's a good course too, starts at the rugby club, up the quay...right at bridge and up hill by milk factory, under the arch and out onto kilala road...right at the half way house and back the back road until you take a left where its a 2 mile section through the woods. Up by soccer club and track and back down to the rugby club again!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: mannix on April 04, 2012, 12:11:54 PM
Ballina half marathon!  Any chance they will extend it to be a full marathon in the future? How many people run in this? Deel, if you ran 16 k, you are well able to do it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 04, 2012, 01:08:10 PM
226 last year, say there will be close to 400 hundred this year. Big crowd come over from Leeds, they had 30 last year and more of the same again. I'd say they'll keep it to the half marathon only.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 04, 2012, 01:47:19 PM
Im nowhere near even thinking about running anything like that! but do you have to be a member of a running club to enter these events?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 04, 2012, 01:50:44 PM
laoislad, I went from a standing start in May to training for and running the Dublin half marathon (which incidentally was €24 or something like that to enter) in September.   

The Dublin marathon series is pretty useful as they build up through a few events starting with a 5 mile, then a 10k, then a 10 mile, half marathon and then full marathon, all based around Dublin.

Of course I didn't run from September to March, so I am now having to start all over again!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on April 04, 2012, 01:55:01 PM
Im nowhere near even thinking about running anything like that! but do you have to be a member of a running club to enter these events?

if you said to me 5 months ago that i'd be thinking of running a 1/2 marathon i'd say you were mad. Just take it Gradually Laoislad and you will find it does get addictive. As for entering these events all you have to do is register no need to be a member of a club.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on April 04, 2012, 01:56:51 PM
Try out on a fun-run.  Are there any local to you?

If you are near Ballyjamesduff on 6th May there is a 5 km fun run/20km cycle event.

http://www.castlerahan.gaa.ie/club-videos
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 04, 2012, 02:16:09 PM
Day 1 Week 1: Downloaded App.

I'll keep you updated.

I started on Day 1 again.
Downloaded a different app and it's much tougher than other. 60secs run 90secs walk for 30mins for week 1. Other app was 30secs run 4mins walk so was a bit too handy.
Day 1 Week 1 done last night 4.8km between running and walking in 33mins. Day 2 tomorrow night.

Day 1 week 1 85kgs

Decided to put it off as I haven't the right gear. Wife finds gear.
Crap.

No runners. Wife finds 12 year old but perfectly good runners. Crap.

Feet don't fit into runners. Surely your feet don't get fat as well? Got them in with encouragement from wife. Crap.

60/90 run/jog

I am everything every women complains about in a man.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 04, 2012, 04:36:37 PM
Im nowhere near even thinking about running anything like that! but do you have to be a member of a running club to enter these events?

No need to be a member of any club or the like.

If i was you and to help the focus, I'd look at the event calender on runireland.com and target a 5km run near the end of your programme. Enter it and use that as a target/motivation. Its always easier to keep at it when committed to something. Plus running in an event, you'll surprise yourself and may actually enjoy it.

You don't have to shout from the rooftops that you'll be doing it, its for yourself and will be a PB regardless.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 04, 2012, 05:59:18 PM
Im nowhere near even thinking about running anything like that! but do you have to be a member of a running club to enter these events?

The "races" are great to be part of and good for the focus. There are usually all ages, shapes and sizes there. When you start running there is always the fear of coming last in these things and looking silly. It is highly unlikely to happen though. Try one and you'd be amazed.

Most of running is the challenge to yourself and no-one else too. If or once you get into it then you can challenge your time each time you run etc but when you start just doing the event is the challenge. It's just about stepping stones and is where everyone starts.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 04, 2012, 07:56:56 PM
Echo what the two lads have said above, don't worry about anyone else and just enjoy it. It'll be tough in the early stages but that'll soon pass and you'll be tipping along nicely before you know it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 04, 2012, 11:21:22 PM
I'm nowhere near even thinking about running anything like that! but do you have to be a member of a running club to enter these events?

The "races" are great to be part of and good for the focus. There are usually all ages, shapes and sizes there. When you start running there is always the fear of coming last in these things and looking silly. It is highly unlikely to happen though. Try one and you'd be amazed.

Most of running is the challenge to yourself and no-one else too. If or once you get into it then you can challenge your time each time you run etc but when you start just doing the event is the challenge. It's just about stepping stones and is where everyone starts.

So true, I found it difficult to work out pace when running outside on my own than what i was doing in the gym, but when you are with a crowd running it, it really spurs you on. I was surprised with my times after that.

I'm actually looking to do a triathlon in June FFS, and I wouldn't have thought I was good at swimming/,cycling or running!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 06, 2012, 09:46:25 PM
Week 1 DONE.
How are Tony and muppet getting on?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 06, 2012, 10:06:07 PM
Week 1 DONE.
How are Tony and muppet getting on?
Haven't quite got round to starting yet  :-[

Had a chinese this evening, just ate a Caramel and have had the first sup of Guinness. Next week laoislad, next week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 06, 2012, 10:20:03 PM
Week 1 DONE.
How are Tony and muppet getting on?

Day 2 Week 1 done today.

Unlike you, I stuck with the zimmerframe slowly does it App. Boy am I glad I did.

Day 3 soon, will be grand.

Not looking forward to the step up from 60 secs to 90 secs next week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 06, 2012, 10:22:48 PM
Right what apps are youse using?

The one I have is RunDouble
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 06, 2012, 10:26:22 PM
C25K Free (as in couch to 5k)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 06, 2012, 10:33:43 PM
Couch to 5k Active is the name of the one I have.
I even have a Army Drill Sargent roaring abuse at me if Im not doing it right though you can also have a sexy lady voice giving you advice during your run if you don't like being verbally abused by the army dude.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: cavan4sam on April 07, 2012, 08:59:28 AM
Maybe some of you lads might be interested in this.

25K Fun Challenge
Castlerahan GAA will host a 25K Fun Challenge and family fun day on Sunday, 6th May 2012 at Fay Park Ballyjamesduff, Co Cavan.

The race element of the day will begin at 12 p.m. sharp with a 5 kilometre run followed by a 20 kilometre cycle.  The start and finish lines for both elements of the challenge will be at Castlerahan GAA's grounds - Fay Park - in Ballyjamesduff.

Entry is open to individuals who wish to compete in both events or a team of two individuals; one to complete the run, the other the cycle. The emphasis on the day is fun and we anticipate that this will be a successful and well-run event which we would hope to make an annual occurrence.

The entry fees are as follows;

    An individual adult competing in both events can do so for €15
    A team of two adults can compete for €20
    An individual juvenile (aged 14 to 18 years) competing in both events can do so for €10
    A team of two juveniles (both aged 14 to 18 years) can compete for €15

There will be prizes for the first finishing male and female adult individuals and adult team. There will also be prizes for the first finishing male and female juvenile individuals and juvenile team.

Showering facilities and refreshments will be provided to all competitors free of charge.

For more info on registration and routes visit: http://www.castlerahan.gaa.ie and follow the links.

Hope to see some of you there on the day.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 09, 2012, 03:26:20 PM
Ran the Mountpleasant 5km this afternoon outside Dundalk. Very wet but managed to do it in 19.57, so broke the 20 min mark for first time. Fairly happy with that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 09, 2012, 04:36:10 PM
Ran the Mountpleasant 5km this afternoon outside Dundalk. Very wet but managed to do it in 19.57, so broke the 20 min mark for first time. Fairly happy with that.

Are you running long Bingo?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 09, 2012, 08:40:56 PM
Muppet,

Actually started cycling first to do a bike leg of local tristhlon last July. Did a bit of running after that and got more into it over winter, ran first 5km race in december  and pushed on since doing few 5kms, few 10kms and duathlons etc. enjoying it a lot if truth be told.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 09, 2012, 08:45:55 PM
Muppet,

Actually started cycling first to do a bike leg of local tristhlon last July. Did a bit of running after that and got more into it over winter, ran first 5km race in december  and pushed on since doing few 5kms, few 10kms and duathlons etc. enjoying it a lot if truth be told.

Fair play. When did you start and were you a couch potato beforehand or were you still pretty fit?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 09, 2012, 08:49:32 PM
Good running Bingo.

Funny thing about running is that when you meet a target you set yourself you just end up setting another one so you'll need a new target now!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 09, 2012, 09:00:45 PM
Muppet,

Actually started cycling first to do a bike leg of local tristhlon last July. Did a bit of running after that and got more into it over winter, ran first 5km race in december  and pushed on since doing few 5kms, few 10kms and duathlons etc. enjoying it a lot if truth be told.

Fair play. When did you start and were you a couch potato beforehand or were you still pretty fit?

Wouldn't have called myself a fully fledged couch potato but was getting there. Always played a bit of football and more recently 5 a side but it was getting infrequent, so had to start something. That was last July. Started running regularly in September and still on bike as well.

Tommy - doing a few 10kms now and a half marathon in may. 40 min 10km be target but long way off, about 4mins to be exact!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 09, 2012, 09:09:28 PM
Once you are fit enough bingo the key to improving at 10ks , in my view, is tempo running.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 10, 2012, 10:15:25 AM
Once you are fit enough bingo the key to improving at 10ks , in my view, is tempo running.

Have been doing a bit recently and some interval runs as well - 400m at fast pace, jog for 400m and repeat. Doing about 8 reps of that.

Have a few Tempo running programmes for 10km that I will probably try and follow in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on April 12, 2012, 08:40:27 AM
Strongly considering getting started to try and run a marathon again. I haven't ran seriously in about a year or so. I had previously signed up to do Dublin but got injured two weeks before it. Do any of you have a good schedule for about 20 weeks? I see a lot of ones online but I don't like the run for 20mins Tuesday, then run for 30 mins Thursday etc ones. I would prefer set miles. Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on April 17, 2012, 08:00:15 PM
Once you are fit enough bingo the key to improving at 10ks , in my view, is tempo running.

Have been doing a bit recently and some interval runs as well - 400m at fast pace, jog for 400m and repeat. Doing about 8 reps of that.

Have a few Tempo running programmes for 10km that I will probably try and follow in the coming weeks.
i found tempo running has been working for me, ive been doing 30 mins, got up to 4.3 mile roughly. ran a 5 mile race on sat past and set a new p.b. of 33min 24secs.  Then on sunday i ran a 10k and set another p.b of 43min 10sec. Also had a ran half marathon at end of march, doing the longer (10 mile) training runs helps the strength. And a few runs in the Sperrins makes the runs on flatter ground easier!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 17, 2012, 11:09:55 PM
Very good leaveherinsir.

I ran sub 36 for the first time on Sunday in that great ireland run in dublin.

Some turnout at it and I'm told Bekele was in a class of his own but I didn't see too much of him! 27:47 and on that course too is unbelievable.

Ballinaman, if you're reading, did you do the great ireland?

Lurganblue runningtimes is the best online resource for running. Not sure if there schedules are miles or minutes though but sure just roughly translate one to the other if needbe based on training times. Have a look on it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 18, 2012, 10:15:41 AM
Didn't run it...clashed with the Mayo match, went for an 18 miler around the park that morning though. Seemed like a serious buzz around the place, I was finishing up when the junior race had started. The course seemed tough enough because I normally do the park anti clockwise skirting the walls and there are a fair few hills the other way around. Fair play on sub 36, huge run. Doing the night run on Sunday week, league final is on earlier in the day and will only be itching for a pint if we win.. ;D. First race since the Marathon so should be interesting to see how it goes.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 18, 2012, 03:25:33 PM
It was hilly last 5k alright and a mad amount of people about.

One of my training mates doing that night time run which sounds like a good one. I wouldn't fancy a league final first but wouldn't know being from antrim :-[

5k next for me and then back to the drawing board for training to try and get another chunk of my time and maybe do a half.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 18, 2012, 03:36:55 PM
You did well to do a PB in a race with such a large field, can be like interval training at the start dodging people. Aye, serious drag at 5km to 6 km and 7km to 8km, usually happy to be going down those hills. Night run looks like a flat course so we'll see how it goes, am sure enough nervous energy will be expended knowing Mayo though...ye'll be there in the hurling soon enough maybe?!?
 Half on 12th of May is the big one for me, home turf and would love to do sub 1.23

Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 18, 2012, 04:40:12 PM
In with the "elites" at the start so missed the masses as I was about 4 rows back...(it's easy enough to get into - just need to be associated with a club)

1:23 would be a good time for a half. I've yet to do one properly so not sure where I'd be at.

Ha, yes Mayo always seem to keep their supporters guessing. Sure you beat them last year so no reason not to repeat that. Some day that will be us, some day...



Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 19, 2012, 04:44:54 PM
Registered for this Nightrun myself. Should be interesting and i'd expect it to be a fast route with hopefully the wind at our back going down by the Liffey!

Serious time their imtommygunn. I'll not be in that league for the 10km, looking round the 43/44m mark myself. Haven't been doing as much running last few weeks as I'd have like to have been.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 19, 2012, 05:11:43 PM
I've made a decision, will collect the number on saturday..if we loose I'll run the night run, if we win it'll be pints in Quinns and no race ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 19, 2012, 05:26:18 PM
I've made a decision, will collect the number on saturday..if we loose I'll run the night run, if we win it'll be pints in Quinns and no race ;D

See ya at the starting line so   ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on April 19, 2012, 06:31:23 PM
imtommygunn and ballinaman, you boys are on a different running planet to me, those are some times for 10k and half marathons! 
Im running the Titanic 10k on Sunday, would be hopeful i might beat last weeks time, as its very flat course, last weekend in Armagh was fairly hilly in places.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 19, 2012, 07:01:39 PM
I've made a decision, will collect the number on saturday..if we loose I'll run the night run, if we win it'll be pints in Quinns and no race ;D

See ya at the starting line so   ;)
had to be said, fair play ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 19, 2012, 07:03:43 PM
imtommygunn and ballinaman, you boys are on a different running planet to me, those are some times for 10k and half marathons! 
Im running the Titanic 10k on Sunday, would be hopeful i might beat last weeks time, as its very flat course, last weekend in Armagh was fairly hilly in places.
Wouldn't worry about anyone else's times, keep the head down with training and they'll fly down for ya!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 19, 2012, 09:35:12 PM
Very good leaveherinsir.

I ran sub 36 for the first time on Sunday

For 10k!

I know I only started two weeks ago but I wouldn't do 5k in that. Jebus.

Having said that still sticking with the App and have hit every target. Next week (wk4) is a big step up though. 16 minutes running with relatively short breaks.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 19, 2012, 11:56:17 PM
You'd be amazed what you can do in the running when you do the right training to be honest muppet / leaveherinsir so I wouldn't rule anything out as I am far from a super athlete! I raced and barely beat another guy I train with who's about 5'10'' and was  about 18 stone a year to a year and a half ago so just shows you.

Leaveherinsir the TQ isn't a bad race - flat and will be plenty of people to carry you round. Also has the bonus of these mass participation races that there's a load of talent about :P

Title: Re: Running
Post by: oakleafgael on April 20, 2012, 12:23:43 AM
You'd be amazed what you can do in the running when you do the right training to be honest muppet / leaveherinsir so I wouldn't rule anything out as I am far from a super athlete! I raced and barely beat another guy I train with who's about 5'10'' and was  about 18 stone a year to a year and a half ago so just shows you.

Leaveherinsir the TQ isn't a bad race - flat and will be plenty of people to carry you round. Also has the bonus of these mass participation races that there's a load of talent about :P

Lads,

Imtommygunn is 100% correct. I went from a complete couch potato to an 18 min 5k in under a year, when I started training I couldnt manage to run 5k non stop and my first non stop 5k was 31 mins. I would have done little to none physical activity since I packed the football in 5 years before that. What helped me was having someone else to train with who could tow me along when I was getting it tight, a very good club runner. Anything longer than 5k was just to sore on the body for me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 20, 2012, 11:24:15 AM
imtommygunn and ballinaman, you boys are on a different running planet to me, those are some times for 10k and half marathons! 
Im running the Titanic 10k on Sunday, would be hopeful i might beat last weeks time, as its very flat course, last weekend in Armagh was fairly hilly in places.

Same here - though my aims are slightly more modest, I'd love to do it in an hr.  I was out last night and did 9k in about 50mins but that included stopping for about a minute or two after 4k and walking up a horrible hill around the 7k mark.  So I'm hopeful around the TQ route that at least the hill won't get in my way. 

Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on April 20, 2012, 11:15:00 PM
You'd be amazed what you can do in the running when you do the right training to be honest muppet / leaveherinsir so I wouldn't rule anything out as I am far from a super athlete! I raced and barely beat another guy I train with who's about 5'10'' and was  about 18 stone a year to a year and a half ago so just shows you.

Leaveherinsir the TQ isn't a bad race - flat and will be plenty of people to carry you round. Also has the bonus of these mass participation races that there's a load of talent about :P
so thats how you run those fast times then, you are chasing girls round!!  I ran it last year, good race, very warm last year, i ran 44mins odd, so would hope to beat that. Those two races last weekend took it out of me tho!
P.s. Good Luck Rois!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on April 21, 2012, 11:06:28 AM
So I've found a schedule that I think suits me and I'm going to begin next week in preparation for Dublin marathon. I know I made a few mistakes in training the last time, going too fast on the long runs etc. any advice in terms of diet and supplements?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 22, 2012, 10:32:04 PM
So my first 10k race done in 56.43 and I'm now regretting not upping the pace a bit as I had more in me. Now on to the next one to beat that time. Flip it feels good though!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dillinger on April 22, 2012, 11:54:41 PM
That's fine. Often when you start off in races you don't really know how you will do. Now you have a target to take a few minutes off the next one. Train at a pace to finnish, say 8 mins 30 plus per mile. That would take you to about 54 mins for 10k. Just don't get carried away with crowds and go too fast in a race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on April 23, 2012, 12:17:18 AM
Anyone round Dublin and doing the mountain running? First of the summer series is off this Wednesday in Bray. Love it myself, a race every week and all levels there
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 23, 2012, 09:29:47 AM
That's fine. Often when you start off in races you don't really know how you will do. Now you have a target to take a few minutes off the next one. Train at a pace to finnish, say 8 mins 30 plus per mile. That would take you to about 54 mins for 10k. Just don't get carried away with crowds and go too fast in a race.

That's what I was afraid of and I think was why I didn't post a faster time - my second 5k was faster than the first and if I'd run at the second 5k pace throughout I'd have done it in 54.  Doing the long leg of the Belfast marathon relay in two weeks so going to aim for under 65 mins for 7.1 miles. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dillinger on April 23, 2012, 10:40:26 AM
10k = 6.25 or so miles so 7.1 won't bother you. It's ok to finnish a bit stronger, better than weaker at your stage. My money's on you doing 60 mins no prob. ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on April 23, 2012, 04:26:23 PM
That's fine. Often when you start off in races you don't really know how you will do. Now you have a target to take a few minutes off the next one. Train at a pace to finnish, say 8 mins 30 plus per mile. That would take you to about 54 mins for 10k. Just don't get carried away with crowds and go too fast in a race.

That's what I was afraid of and I think was why I didn't post a faster time - my second 5k was faster than the first and if I'd run at the second 5k pace throughout I'd have done it in 54.  Doing the long leg of the Belfast marathon relay in two weeks so going to aim for under 65 mins for 7.1 miles.

The long leg of the Belfast marathon relay I believe is tight going with the vast majority of it being up hill.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on April 23, 2012, 04:57:45 PM
Not sure that I'd say the vast majority is uphill - there's a hilly bit at the start (but with some downhills mixed in with that), then along the Antrim Road which has a deceptive incline, but offset by running down from the Antrim Road to the loughshore (which is about 2 miles of the route), so it will be mixed up. 

Thankfully I live in that area and running along the Antrim Road is part of my usual route anyway.  Will just have to practice the first bit in the next two weeks. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Capt Pat on April 23, 2012, 06:18:57 PM
A woman died in the London marathon. 30 years oldClaire Squires was her name. She was a stone cold fox now she is stone cold dead.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on April 23, 2012, 06:51:52 PM
42:05 for the TQ 10k yesterday.  Delighted, another 1min+ off the PB!  Was really pleased in that i ran at a steady pace throughout, every mile was within 10 seconds of each other.
Next goal will have to be sub 42!
Was a brilliant turnout yesterday, something like 1800 runners. Running really has increased in popularity in the last 2-3 years.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dillinger on April 23, 2012, 07:52:37 PM
Not sure that I'd say the vast majority is uphill - there's a hilly bit at the start (but with some downhills mixed in with that), then along the Antrim Road which has a deceptive incline, but offset by running down from the Antrim Road to the loughshore (which is about 2 miles of the route), so it will be mixed up. 

Thankfully I live in that area and running along the Antrim Road is part of my usual route anyway.  Will just have to practice the first bit in the next two weeks.

I used to run up Grays Lane now and again, don't try that just yet. :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on April 23, 2012, 09:08:32 PM
Very sad about the girl dying in the marathon. At least her justgiving page is getting some money in for the samaritans now with 150+k raised. Pity it took that to raise it :(

25 miles she made it to.

Anyway - good running those who ran TQ. I think I am also doing the antrim road leg in the marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 29, 2012, 11:34:24 AM
Could never bottle out of a race, so win loose or draw today in Croker, will give this night run a go.

Looks like it'll be wet and windy, not great for times but sure no harm.

Half 8 start time has the usual race day eating times all over the shop though!

See ya in the red zone Bingo, i'll have a yellow Jamaica tshirt on.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 29, 2012, 12:09:52 PM
How are the Couch to 5K brigade doing?

Finished week 4 this morning. Tough going but down about 5kgs.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 29, 2012, 12:14:51 PM
How are the Couch to 5K brigade doing?

Finished week 4 this morning. Tough going but down about 5kgs.
Not too bad. Only on midway through week 3 though as I had a few things happen that made it impossible to get time to run.
You'd notice missing a week or so as well, was going good but when I went back running after missing a week I felt I had gone backwards a bit.
Anyway determined to get to running 5k non stop even if it takes longer than the 8 week program.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on April 29, 2012, 12:16:39 PM
How are the Couch to 5K brigade doing?

Finished week 4 this morning. Tough going but down about 5kgs.
Not too bad. Only on midway through week 3 though as I had a few things happen that made it impossible to get time to run.
You'd notice missing a week or so as well, was going good but when I went back running after missing a week I felt I had gone backwards a bit.
Anyway determined to get to running 5k non stop even if it takes longer than the 8 week program.

There are times I feel might have to do a week twice but I like you I am determined to see this out.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 29, 2012, 12:32:06 PM
How are the Couch to 5K brigade doing?

Finished week 4 this morning. Tough going but down about 5kgs.
Erm I have yet to complete Week 1. The missus has a school inspection in 2 weeks so there is no time. Will reconvene after 19th May as I have a few heavy nights on the lash this month.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 29, 2012, 10:04:05 PM
36.43(go by watch even though they have me as 36.49 gross!)..........happy enough considering the weather and haven't been doing 10km training really. Good to be back racing, plenty in the tank so should have a right go at the half marathon in 2 weeks.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 29, 2012, 11:18:16 PM
Fair play lad, decent time in a dirty night. Finished at 41.56 myself, was targeting 43 or so but nearly ruled that out giving the night. Start was chaotic where I was with runners of all grades going, was dodge the person for up and down oconnell st, one girl even stopped to tie her lace in middle of road!

Really enjoyed it mind, had thought 30 was on high side but it was value for money I reckon. Would have been great atmosphere if weather been kinder. Think it will only get bigger next year.

I'll soon dry out and warm up!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 29, 2012, 11:24:39 PM
Good man, times would have been even better if it was a kinder night alright!Fair play to the stewards coming out on a night like it. I got a decent enough start but was baltic starting it! Ha, you serious...you get that with mass events though, people go off like the hammers of hell and blow up.

Cracking flat course though, will defo do it again.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 29, 2012, 11:35:31 PM
Had expected a bit of pile up at start, worked out well as I tend to start like the hammers and suffer for it, more controlled today!!

I felt sorry for stewards and their was plenty of them! At least we were moving.

It would be a great event on a dry night. Course is super alright and my running buddy reckons it lot better than the great Ireland run he done few back, said he'd do that one again over the other.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thebigfella on April 30, 2012, 01:27:19 AM
Done it myself and was aimining for around 45 for my first 10km or any sort of race. Hadn't been able to train for the last 4 weeks (in fact I reckon I only got 3 weeks training in) and hadn't run the full distance before. Ended up getting caught up in the last group (rookie mistake and won't happen again) to start and it was torture, was near 8 minutes from the gun going off until I went over the line. Started passing lots of people from the start and found it mentally tough as I thought I'd went off too quick; suppose if I'd been able to train more I'd have been confident of my pace. Ended up 55:06 and was slightly disapointed as I though I was around 50min pace. Looking back now I'm delighted as I was considering pulling out a week ago and the conditions were tough. At least now I have a good target to beat next time.
Have to say it was a great event and will deffinately do it again, even if the weather is that bad  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 30, 2012, 10:00:35 AM
Fair play bigfella, was a tough night for any run, never mind your first 10km. You'll soon get to grips with pacing yourself at start, very easy to read it round and tear off, as I often do.

Did either of you have a Garmin or the like? Mine give it a distance of 10.30km, mate was similar and I see some on boards.ie saying similar. Others say it was just short if you stuck to road. I did do a fair bit of weaving and moving to make up places, bit 300m is alot to be out.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the greatest jockey on April 30, 2012, 10:09:41 AM
got under 20 minutes for a 5k last week, wondering if yous have any general training advice?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thebigfella on April 30, 2012, 10:47:16 AM
Normally I'd have the iPhone but it was just too wet. Heard a couple of people say it was over 10km though.
Done a fair bit of weaving myself, I'd say there was only 150 behind me at the start. O'connell street was torture and only really managed to find some proper space after the theatre. Some buzz when your running past everyone though in the last 4 km.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on April 30, 2012, 11:58:16 AM
Fair play bigfella, won't run many races in conditions as bad as that anyways!! Interesting Bingo, don't have a garmin myself though. The 90 degree turns round corners were dodgy enough with it being so wet, had to check the stride a fair few times to make sure i didn't take a tumble. Only spotted the 6km and 8km markers, were there any more?

Was gas in a race of 3,722 people from 7km-9km, I was totally by myself until I caught a few lads at the end. Felt like being out for a run by myself.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 30, 2012, 12:13:25 PM
Some people are suggesting that the conditions may not have helped and put the Garmins off, for instance one person mapped their run and it took him across the liffey rather than on the bridge, over buildings rather than round them, so was some errors alright.

I seen a few markers - 2km, 5km, 7km. They were poorly positioned in fairness - standing low on ground rather than hanging in air. I thought the last KM could have been marked more. Again conditions made it hard to spot them as head was down or focused on avoiding other runners or pavements or floods! Turns were tight alright at times and was hard to avoid people slowing and others going harder from behind plus your footing.

That was strange alright, no fear of that where I started from. We seemed to be constantly passing people.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 30, 2012, 03:55:53 PM
Some people are suggesting that the conditions may not have helped and put the Garmins off, for instance one person mapped their run and it took him across the liffey rather than on the bridge, over buildings rather than round them, so was some errors alright.

I seen a few markers - 2km, 5km, 7km. They were poorly positioned in fairness - standing low on ground rather than hanging in air. I thought the last KM could have been marked more. Again conditions made it hard to spot them as head was down or focused on avoiding other runners or pavements or floods! Turns were tight alright at times and was hard to avoid people slowing and others going harder from behind plus your footing.

That was strange alright, no fear of that where I started from. We seemed to be constantly passing people.

Doggy style running...I like it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on April 30, 2012, 03:58:33 PM
Some people are suggesting that the conditions may not have helped and put the Garmins off, for instance one person mapped their run and it took him across the liffey rather than on the bridge, over buildings rather than round them, so was some errors alright.

I seen a few markers - 2km, 5km, 7km. They were poorly positioned in fairness - standing low on ground rather than hanging in air. I thought the last KM could have been marked more. Again conditions made it hard to spot them as head was down or focused on avoiding other runners or pavements or floods! Turns were tight alright at times and was hard to avoid people slowing and others going harder from behind plus your footing.

That was strange alright, no fear of that where I started from. We seemed to be constantly passing people.

Doggy style running...I like it.

Well, when one of the women runners stopped to bend over to tie her lace in the middle of O'Connell St I wouldn;t be surprised if it didn't cross a few minds  ;D

How is your 5km training going?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 30, 2012, 04:06:12 PM
Was just saying a few posts back that I missed a week and a bit so only at week 3 now instead of week 5.
Felt I went backwards a bit after missing a week but I'll see it out till the end even if it kills me!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on April 30, 2012, 11:25:26 PM
Can you spot yourself Bingo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r92KJNfuXd0&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on April 30, 2012, 11:26:28 PM
How are the Couch to 5K brigade doing?

Finished week 4 this morning. Tough going but down about 5kgs.
Erm I have yet to complete Week 1. The missus has a school inspection in 2 weeks so there is no time. Will reconvene after 19th May as I have a few heavy nights on the lash this month.
lazy heure, get off yer hole!  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 30, 2012, 11:29:55 PM
How are the Couch to 5K brigade doing?

Finished week 4 this morning. Tough going but down about 5kgs.
Erm I have yet to complete Week 1. The missus has a school inspection in 2 weeks so there is no time. Will reconvene after 19th May as I have a few heavy nights on the lash this month.
lazy heure, get off yer hole!  ;)
I will. Eventually!

Slipped back into eating shite in the evenings too - albeit less! I'll make a big effort from w/c 21st May right through the summer!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 01, 2012, 11:06:02 PM
Any doing the duathlon series in the Pheonix park tomorrow nite?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 02, 2012, 08:30:11 AM
5K in Kells next Monday at 11am. Can enter on the day in the Headfort Arms hotel from 9.30am to 10.30am. 20 yoyos. Going to spin across to it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 02, 2012, 10:04:18 AM
Can you spot yourself Bingo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r92KJNfuXd0&feature=player_embedded

I'll to be obviously funny and say I'm the guy in the yellow top  :( They actually have a video clip of you crossing the line but they seemed to get the camera postion wrong and mine is the back of some guy standing in front of the camera and a brief passing of my head.

Down to do the Boyne 10km on Sunday but planning a few pints and a night out after the cup final on Saturday, so it'll be a light run out to just complete the thing!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 02, 2012, 11:53:15 AM
Friends of mine are doing an Iron Man contest in Nice this June, they did a half Iron Man at the weekend 75 lengths of 25 metre pool, 50 miles on the bike and 13 mile run!! they did it in under 5h 50 minutes.

Any of our posters completed an Iron Man?

If they did half in that time, christ they won't finish the other one till dark!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 03, 2012, 09:35:21 AM
How'd you get on mayo4sam?

http://www.irishtriathlon.com/index.php/2012/05/phoenix-park-runways-duathlon/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on May 03, 2012, 09:56:37 AM
Did my 1st 10k in Foxford a couple of weeks ago finished in 44.30 which i was delighted with . Would love to do the 1/2 Marathon in Ballina but looks like i won't be around
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on May 06, 2012, 07:15:42 PM
So who is taking part the Belfast marathon tomorrow? I'm doing the Antrim Road leg and hope to have a few supporters out with banners which will be nice. Running it to raise money for the family of a colleague who was killed a year and a half ago. last year I said I couldn't run so just did the walk, but was determined to take part properly this year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on May 07, 2012, 11:26:09 AM
5K in Kells next Monday at 11am. Can enter on the day in the Headfort Arms hotel from 9.30am to 10.30am. 20 yoyos. Going to spin across to it.

Are people really paying 20 quid to run 3 miles of public road? I know  there's marshalling, timing etc to sort out, and there's usually a good cause attached - but this is a bit mad.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on May 07, 2012, 11:42:29 AM
Any of you guys ever experience numbness in your foot when running? Happens after about 40 mins of running?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on May 07, 2012, 12:03:32 PM
Any of you guys ever experience numbness in your foot when running? Happens after about 40 mins of running?

I had a similar problem years ago. At first I thought it was my shoes being too tight, or fallen arches but it turned out to be back problem. The back problem meant my pelvis was tilted and brought an early end to my Elvis impersonation career.

Because of the tilted pelvis, I was using one leg more than the other (how the hell did I ever run in a straight line?) which put more stress on one foot, which caused the numbness.

Check the soles of your running shoes - is one shoe showing slightly more wear than the other?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on May 07, 2012, 12:40:58 PM
I'll get back to you on the state of my shoes later. Was this always the case for you, even when you started out? This was never a problem for me up until recently. So I'm wondering what has changed. Thinking back about a year ago I got a gait analysis done and bought trainers that suited my slightly over pronating foot. I think it may have started a while after that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on May 07, 2012, 12:46:11 PM
No, it was never a problem at the start. I ran for about 5 years doing half marathons, 10ks, cross country and 60 mile a week in training.

I suspect that the problem was always there but my legs had been able to compensate.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 07, 2012, 01:10:56 PM
5K in Kells next Monday at 11am. Can enter on the day in the Headfort Arms hotel from 9.30am to 10.30am. 20 yoyos. Going to spin across to it.

Are people really paying 20 quid to run 3 miles of public road? I know  there's marshalling, timing etc to sort out, and there's usually a good cause attached - but this is a bit mad.
Yep, about 300 there today. Decent t-shirt, chip timing on a fast course. People like to compete, doing your own runs can get a bit boring.

Spending 20 euro on 4 pints could be seen as equally mad.........I wouldn't think you'd enjoy triathlons, you'd be in for a shock with the expense there anyways!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on May 07, 2012, 01:45:35 PM
I'll get back to you on the state of my shoes later. Was this always the case for you, even when you started out? This was never a problem for me up until recently. So I'm wondering what has changed. Thinking back about a year ago I got a gait analysis done and bought trainers that suited my slightly over pronating foot. I think it may have started a while after that.

Flip I had a numb foot after 3 miles the other week for the first time. Going to have to look at trainers now.

On another point, conditions were rotten in Belfast today, but that didn't stop the people of north Belfast (my leg) turning out in force - a credit to everyone in all communities. Families had set up their own water stations and were giving out their own boiled sweets. Really really heart warming, even if we all looked like drowned rats.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on May 07, 2012, 02:47:02 PM
I'll get back to you on the state of my shoes later. Was this always the case for you, even when you started out? This was never a problem for me up until recently. So I'm wondering what has changed. Thinking back about a year ago I got a gait analysis done and bought trainers that suited my slightly over pronating foot. I think it may have started a while after that.

Flip I had a numb foot after 3 miles the other week for the first time. Going to have to look at trainers now.

On another point, conditions were rotten in Belfast today, but that didn't stop the people of north Belfast (my leg) turning out in force - a credit to everyone in all communities. Families had set up their own water stations and were giving out their own boiled sweets. Really really heart warming, even if we all looked like drowned rats.

It was a seriously wet day today, me and my daughter went to the 25 mile marker today and parked up and stood out to cheer the runners on the last mile, we normally stand at the toe path at Hazelbank but were in town so thought we head there instead.


Some pain etched on peoples faces at that 25 mile point, fair play to anyone that does it and I may enter next year but we'll see doing 10 K is fine and dandy but the 26 miles is another animal altogether.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on May 08, 2012, 07:09:29 PM
Checked the sole of my trainers and they look equally worn orior. Went for a short run there and well loosened the laces. Still felt the numbness coming on. Gonna try a change of trainer next and see if that improves anything.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 08, 2012, 08:57:41 PM
Are they stability shoes lurganblue? I have felt this once or twice before on stability shoes when I should have been wearing neutrals so it was basically over cushioning.

If not how old are your trainers? 4-5 hundred miles would be recommended distance.

I know that you get GAIT analysis done in some shops with the trainers etc but not everyone doing this analysis knows what they're doing...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on May 08, 2012, 09:58:09 PM
They are stability shoes as the girl doing the gait analysis said it showed that I over pronate when I run. They wouldn't have anywhere near 400 miles of use yet. Closer to about 70/80 I'd say.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 08, 2012, 10:36:33 PM
Any physios about...?
 I was planning on starting training for Dublin marathon two weeks ago but instead done my ankle. (self-diagnosed as grade ii though probably wrong!)

Significant swelling from ankle down to toes, bruising from inside of ankle bone to the outside, as well as up the back of the leg a bit.

Swelling is almost completely gone as is most of the bruising. Toes remain bruised and slightly swollen. Foot is still quite tender. Can walk with only slight discomfort. How long, roughly, before I could do some light running?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 08, 2012, 10:39:30 PM
70 or 80 would mean they're definitely not worn out.

The only experience I have had of anything like that would have been through wearing stability shoes when they should have been neutral. Whether that is consistent with what you're getting I'm not sure but it's not impossible that the girl could be wrong either.

Here's an article on it: http://www.livestrong.com/article/530542-numbness-in-feet-and-calves-while-running/ (http://www.livestrong.com/article/530542-numbness-in-feet-and-calves-while-running/) . Important not to get alarmed as the last one could well be the cause...

Anyone running in belfast marathon yesterday could very easily get numbness in feet due to lack of feeling from the cold ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on May 08, 2012, 10:43:05 PM
Had some good advice tonight so I've a few exercises to do plus I'm gonna do some small miles in my old neutral trainers. Hope to see an improvement in the next week or so.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 08, 2012, 10:46:43 PM
What are the exercises out of interest?

Fitz running puts a lot of weight through the ankles so best be careful on it. Plenty of time till Dublin yet.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: lurganblue on May 08, 2012, 10:59:58 PM
What are the exercises out of interest?

Fitz running puts a lot of weight through the ankles so best be careful on it. Plenty of time till Dublin yet.

Calf stretches, moving the metatarsals about etc starting to think a change in footwear is a must though.

Fitz try a bit of straight line running on grass for a while first.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Last Man on May 09, 2012, 08:17:39 AM
Are they stability shoes lurganblue? I have felt this once or twice before on stability shoes when I should have been wearing neutrals so it was basically over cushioning.

If not how old are your trainers? 4-5 hundred miles would be recommended distance.

I know that you get GAIT analysis done in some shops with the trainers etc but not everyone doing this analysis knows what they're doing...
Podium4sport on Montgomery road do the video gait analysis for free, and the staff seem to know what they are talking about...You can try different shoes and watch the difference on the video playback.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 09, 2012, 11:13:38 AM
They do to be fair to them - one guy in particular there is very good.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: amallon on May 09, 2012, 04:27:59 PM
Just a quick reminder about this weekends 10k for anyone interested.

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Title: Re: Running
Post by: Last Man on May 09, 2012, 11:47:02 PM
They do to be fair to them - one guy in particular there is very good.
Ginger beard??.....Greg
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 10, 2012, 08:26:25 AM
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Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2012, 12:16:02 PM
45 yoyos a bit steep for a half marathon...

That's the very boy lastman.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 10, 2012, 12:19:27 PM
45 yoyos a bit steep for a half marathon...

That's the very boy lastman.
Aye, steep enough but in fairness to them, the t-shirt and goody bag is about 30 euro in value.They have 1.30 and 1.40 and 2.00 pacemakers with balloons like the marathon too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2012, 12:22:18 PM
I think I paid 20 for great ireland but that was a club place and it was 30 otherwise but they're funded to the hilt by sponsors.

Any races I have ever done down south give you nothing but sweets in the goodie bag which is strange.

1:40 a strange time to pick for a pacemaker?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 10, 2012, 12:30:02 PM
The race has a health food shop as a sponsor so plenty of samples and supplements in the bag too this year hopefully.

Ya, I thought that too. The lad doing it is a 1.18 man so not complaining, one less lad to contend with. :P Be delighted to nip under previous PB of 1.23.40 all going well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 10, 2012, 01:49:25 PM
Starting to get a notion in my head of doing a marathon so must do a few halfs myself. Half marathon time(my one and only) not too hot so shouldn't be too hard to beat).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 10, 2012, 05:01:16 PM

Run of Champions!!!

29/07/2011 @ 1pm. This is an annual 10K run, jog or walk round the beautiful countryside of Crossmaglen. The route suits everyone who wants a challenge. The course record is 32:16 held by Gary O'Hanlon and female record 36:12 held by Julie Turley..29/07/2012 @ 1pm. Starting at Crossmaglen Rangers GFC Grounds.

If I can do it anyone can!!!!
 
You can register through this link

http://www.runireland.com/events/crossmaglen-10k-challenge-0 (http://www.runireland.com/events/crossmaglen-10k-challenge-0)
 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 10, 2012, 05:07:41 PM

Run of Champions!!!

29/07/2011 @ 1pm. This is an annual 10K run, jog or walk round the beautiful countryside of Crossmaglen. The route suits everyone who wants a challenge. The course record is 32:16 held by Gary O'Hanlon and female record 36:12 held by Julie Turley..29/07/2012 @ 1pm. Starting at Crossmaglen Rangers GFC Grounds.

If I can do it anyone can!!!!
 
You can register through this link

http://www.runireland.com/events/crossmaglen-10k-challenge-0 (http://www.runireland.com/events/crossmaglen-10k-challenge-0)

Missed it last year but by all accounst was a great event. I'll be there this year with all going well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 10, 2012, 05:15:42 PM

Run of Champions!!!

29/07/2011 @ 1pm. This is an annual 10K run, jog or walk round the beautiful countryside of Crossmaglen. The route suits everyone who wants a challenge. The course record is 32:16 held by Gary O'Hanlon and female record 36:12 held by Julie Turley..29/07/2012 @ 1pm. Starting at Crossmaglen Rangers GFC Grounds.

If I can do it anyone can!!!!
 
You can register through this link

http://www.runireland.com/events/crossmaglen-10k-challenge-0 (http://www.runireland.com/events/crossmaglen-10k-challenge-0)

Missed it last year but by all accounst was a great event. I'll be there this year with all going well.

Good man, I hope to do it myself but I won't be setting any records!!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 13, 2012, 07:57:37 PM
http://www.runireland.com/events/john-davis-5km-run

This looks like it'll be a nice run in Malahide castle
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 15, 2012, 11:01:41 AM
Did the 10km Blackwater run in Monaghan on Sunday. Tough wee track in and around Rossmore Park, lovely run in fairness but as you can imagine it was very up and down on forest paths.

Enjoyed it and happy with time of 43.30 considering the course.

Looks like the Newry half marathon is next at start of run.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 15, 2012, 11:28:08 AM
That 5K in Malahide is sold out now as far as I know mayo4sam.

Fair play bingo, those trail runs can be tricky enough. Haven't made up my mind about the Newry half yet. There's an 8K down West in Cong I might tip down to that weekend.

Ran a PB last Sat in the half, 1.22.06, didn't have much left at the end so have to be happy for now....though as with every time you race, you always want to get the time down further!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 15, 2012, 11:38:27 AM
Thats right going for the half, Ballinaman. You are fairly moving after the injury. No point having much left in the tank after a run like that.

It would be my first proper half, done one in a training run and it was tough. Few miles to get in the legs this week and next before i decide for sure but am 80% at this stage.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 15, 2012, 12:30:51 PM
Thats right going for the half, Ballinaman. You are fairly moving after the injury. No point having much left in the tank after a run like that.

It would be my first proper half, done one in a training run and it was tough. Few miles to get in the legs this week and next before i decide for sure but am 80% at this stage.

To be honest, the break after the marathon probably did me good. Ran a even race, stopped looking at the splits after 7 miles. Good man, try and get a couple of 14 or 15 miles runs if you can in before the Newry race, will give you a bit of extra confidence and will help you big time from 10 miles onwards.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on May 15, 2012, 01:27:44 PM

A great run there in the half Ballinaman. I was in attendance but didn t run it this year. Lovely day for it and it s a great route but nothing easy about it. At my age I could only dream of times like that. If I could get a sub 1:40 at this stage i would be over the moon.

 We got lucky with the weather Saturday. Sunday was so stormy I m not sure the race could have gone ahead if it was scheduled for that day. Running through Belleek woods in a gale is not a good idea with branches flying.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 15, 2012, 02:23:10 PM

A great run there in the half Ballinaman. I was in attendance but didn t run it this year. Lovely day for it and it s a great route but nothing easy about it. At my age I could only dream of times like that. If I could get a sub 1:40 at this stage i would be over the moon.

 We got lucky with the weather Saturday. Sunday was so stormy I m not sure the race could have gone ahead if it was scheduled for that day. Running through Belleek woods in a gale is not a good idea with branches flying.
Sound moysider, enjoyed it, was in bits in 2011 so was a welcome change. Nice pool of runners in Ballina now, we've taken over from Mayo AC as top adult club now in Mayo.1.40 is fair clipping but not impossible for anyone, the pacemakers were a great idea this year. Steeped with the weather as you said.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on May 15, 2012, 11:41:08 PM
That 5K in Malahide is sold out now as far as I know mayo4sam.

Ya seems they sold 100 of the 400 places over the weekend, up from 200 last yr


Ran a PB last Sat in the half, 1.22.06, didn't have much left at the end so have to be happy for now....though as with every time you race, you always want to get the time down further!


Typical Ballina, it was 1.22.08!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on May 16, 2012, 08:44:04 AM
That 5K in Malahide is sold out now as far as I know mayo4sam.

Ya seems they sold 100 of the 400 places over the weekend, up from 200 last yr


Ran a PB last Sat in the half, 1.22.06, didn't have much left at the end so have to be happy for now....though as with every time you race, you always want to get the time down further!


Typical Ballina, it was 1.22.08!
1.22.06 on my watch...i'll take every second i can get!.... ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 25, 2012, 12:07:41 PM
Lovely weather at the minute but you certainly feel the difference on an evening run. Did 15km yesterday evening, starting just after 7 and it was tough going. Lovely been out in it mind.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2012, 12:09:19 PM
It's not the heat that's the problem for me - struggling breathing as there's not much oxygen in it...

Still good being out in it but the speed work is pretty tough in it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 25, 2012, 12:28:54 PM
It's not the heat that's the problem for me - struggling breathing as there's not much oxygen in it...

Still good being out in it but the speed work is pretty tough in it!

Yeah, much like that, sure if the breathing is suffering everything will suffer? Plus the mouthfulls of flies as well!

Was very little speed in my run anyways!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: centre 3/4s on May 25, 2012, 01:05:15 PM
Hey guys really would love to get the running bug, firstly to lose a bit of beef and secondly to give myself something to do in these long evenings. I have always been involved in various sports so would have a basic level of fitness but could you recommend ways of motivating to gert started... also a good running app for my android
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on May 25, 2012, 03:51:40 PM
Pick a target would be my advice. Even a 5k would do. Forget about times but getting round first. Then build from it and look at knocking time of this.

Breathing suffers, heart rate suffers, speed suffers etc etc The whole chain so to get much done early mornings required!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 25, 2012, 04:00:00 PM
Pick a target would be my advice. Even a 5k would do. Forget about times but getting round first. Then build from it and look at knocking time of this.

Breathing suffers, heart rate suffers, speed suffers etc etc The whole chain so to get much done early mornings required!

It will be early in the morning tomorrow but on the bike. Nice long spin in the sunshine.

Hey guys really would love to get the running bug, firstly to lose a bit of beef and secondly to give myself something to do in these long evenings. I have always been involved in various sports so would have a basic level of fitness but could you recommend ways of motivating to gert started... also a good running app for my android

Like Tommy said - target a 5k event in your area in 8-10wks - check out the calender on runireland. Then download one of the many couch to 5km apps for your phone. Or simply print one off on the internet. If you have a target and event to work to, it will serve as motivation. My missus done this last October for a 5km and just done her first 10km a few weeks back.

Just take it easy and follow the beginner plan and it will all come together. Plan to just get it done - the first time is a new PB regardless of taking 30mins or 1 hour or more.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on May 28, 2012, 02:39:01 PM
Did one of those VO2 tests yesterday. Very interesting and picked up some good info from it regards training and others areas.

Few other lads done it and the difference in what people need to be doing from one man to the next really shows that alot of running is about individual needs and as the tester said, collective training can only target a small part of your needs if people at different levels.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 01, 2012, 01:07:45 PM
Did one of those VO2 tests yesterday. Very interesting and picked up some good info from it regards training and others areas.

Few other lads done it and the difference in what people need to be doing from one man to the next really shows that alot of running is about individual needs and as the tester said, collective training can only target a small part of your needs if people at different levels.
Where about's did you do it? Is it the same lad who was advertised in the Irish Runner magazine a couple of months back. Would be interesting to do.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Oak Leafer on June 01, 2012, 02:38:48 PM
Lads, sorry for interrupting your discussion.

I had managed of late to do a little running on the treadmill. The legs have strengthened up and i feel i want to start doing some outdoor running.

Now due to injury, the knee's are dodgy to say the least, however i have realised its still possible to run without causing too much pain!

I could probably run 4/5km at this stage, but would like to progress to being able to do 10km (if possible!).

I was wondering if any of you more experienced runners could offer me some sort of training plan for getting me there.

Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 01, 2012, 02:47:39 PM
Did one of those VO2 tests yesterday. Very interesting and picked up some good info from it regards training and others areas.

Few other lads done it and the difference in what people need to be doing from one man to the next really shows that alot of running is about individual needs and as the tester said, collective training can only target a small part of your needs if people at different levels.
Where about's did you do it? Is it the same lad who was advertised in the Irish Runner magazine a couple of months back. Would be interesting to do.

One of the lads organised him to come down to Blayney and done it in local Hotel gym, he's a young lad from Dublin - http://www.myhealthmatters.ie/ (http://www.myhealthmatters.ie/) - his name is Sean and thats his webiste.

Its the second time he's been down in a few weeks, near 20 done it over all from local area. Not sure if its the same guy who was in Irish Runner. He going to come back in 3/4 months and do a follow test for anyone interested, to see if the pointers he give has worked.

I got a good bit from him.

Doing Newry half on Sunday. First official race doing a half, few training runs over the distance, so should be fun!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 01, 2012, 02:51:33 PM
Lads, sorry for interrupting your discussion.

I had managed of late to do a little running on the treadmill. The legs have strengthened up and i feel i want to start doing some outdoor running.

Now due to injury, the knee's are dodgy to say the least, however i have realised its still possible to run without causing too much pain!

I could probably run 4/5km at this stage, but would like to progress to being able to do 10km (if possible!).

I was wondering if any of you more experienced runners could offer me some sort of training plan for getting me there.

Any help would be appreciated.

http://halhigdon.staging.racersites.com/training/ (http://halhigdon.staging.racersites.com/training/)

Alot of people would use the plans above - plenty of variation in them in terms of levels of running.

Its all about little steps and building up to the distance. I'd not know anything about the knees and how they be affected by the running or how to factor them into a knee. You know more on that yourself from experience or physio.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Oak Leafer on June 01, 2012, 02:56:47 PM
Cheers Bingo.

Ah yes i can manage the knee's, just need something in black and white to follow.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: supersarsfields on June 01, 2012, 02:57:25 PM
Just wondering if anyone here can help. Have a strained Achilles tendon at the minute and very tight calf's ( I'd assume both are linked) But I'd laid off it now a few weeks and got a bit of physio on it but it doesn't seem to be any better. I'm doing a few stretches but nothing seems to make a difference.

Just wondering if many of you runners have problems with it? And if so any tips?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 01, 2012, 03:24:29 PM
Just wondering if anyone here can help. Have a strained Achilles tendon at the minute and very tight calf's ( I'd assume both are linked) But I'd laid off it now a few weeks and got a bit of physio on it but it doesn't seem to be any better. I'm doing a few stretches but nothing seems to make a difference.

Just wondering if many of you runners have problems with it? And if so any tips?

Can you go up on your toes without pain in the achilles? Did the physio look at your feet or how you actually run?

1.Get yourself a small heel raise, 6-8mm should do. Can find them in a decent chemist. Put them in shoes that you wear throughout the day. It's going to give your achilles some slack in order to reduce inflammation. Wear for about 7 days max.

2.Ice x 10 mins 2-3 times per day.

3.Foam roll the calf muscle as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trtOpsCEkMo&feature=related   , It'll probably be too sore to lift yourself up off the ground initially when rolling but it'll be possible after a few days of it. 5-10mins per day.

4. You need to put a bit of tensile force through the achilles to stimulate healing so, try this exercise http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Newse_A9kI4

Off the step on the stairs is handy and can use the railing for support if needs be. Important to slowly lower yourself down to when you feel stretch. 2 sets of 10 reps twice daily should do it.

Try a jog in 5-6 days, if still sore, stop and repeat those exercises for another week. Foam roll your calf 3-4 times a week to stop it happening again once you are painfree.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 01, 2012, 03:26:50 PM
Did one of those VO2 tests yesterday. Very interesting and picked up some good info from it regards training and others areas.

Few other lads done it and the difference in what people need to be doing from one man to the next really shows that alot of running is about individual needs and as the tester said, collective training can only target a small part of your needs if people at different levels.
Where about's did you do it? Is it the same lad who was advertised in the Irish Runner magazine a couple of months back. Would be interesting to do.

One of the lads organised him to come down to Blayney and done it in local Hotel gym, he's a young lad from Dublin - http://www.myhealthmatters.ie/ (http://www.myhealthmatters.ie/) - his name is Sean and thats his webiste.

Its the second time he's been down in a few weeks, near 20 done it over all from local area. Not sure if its the same guy who was in Irish Runner. He going to come back in 3/4 months and do a follow test for anyone interested, to see if the pointers he give has worked.

I got a good bit from him.

Doing Newry half on Sunday. First official race doing a half, few training runs over the distance, so should be fun!
Thats the lad alright, heard good things about him from a good few people.

Best of luck. Real race doesn't start until 8 miles keep reminding yourself!! Heard it's a nice flat course once you get on the canal tow path....
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 01, 2012, 03:35:18 PM
Thats the lad alright, heard good things about him from a good few people.

Best of luck. Real race doesn't start until 8 miles keep reminding yourself!! Heard it's a nice flat course once you get on the canal tow path....

Cheers, yeah very much found it better to pace myself unlike the rabbit outa the traps I was a few months back.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: supersarsfields on June 01, 2012, 03:55:00 PM
Cheers Ballina. Can stand on my toes now without pain but was walking with a limp for the first couple of days after it happened.
Physio only gave me a short rub as it was down at training and there was about 3 guys waiting after me. So wouldn't say it was intensive physio or anything.

Must give the heel insert a go to see how it fairs up. And I've been hearing alot about these foam rollers lately so might have to pick one up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 01, 2012, 04:02:51 PM
Cheers Ballina. Can stand on my toes now without pain but was walking with a limp for the first couple of days after it happened.
Physio only gave me a short rub as it was down at training and there was about 3 guys waiting after me. So wouldn't say it was intensive physio or anything.

Must give the heel insert a go to see how it fairs up. And I've been hearing alot about these foam rollers lately so might have to pick one up.
Grand, sounds like a grade 2 strain if it was sore when you were walking...few fibres torn in the tendon. Foam roller will be important to breakdown the scar tissue.

Foam rollers are the job. They are available on amazon, i've the green reebok one thats listed and its decent.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 01, 2012, 04:20:25 PM
Have you ever heard of the rumble roller ballinaman?(http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rumble-Roller-Extra-Firm-Black/dp/B004INOO8Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1338563824&sr=8-3 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rumble-Roller-Extra-Firm-Black/dp/B004INOO8Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1338563824&sr=8-3)) I have one of them and they are some job. Basically a hard foam roller with "knubbles". Very very good for getting into places the average foam roller wouldn't get near. (hamstrings,calves, hip flexors).

Bingo for 5 and 10ks a good one to do would be to get your Lactate Threshold tested so you know where to train pace-wise on your tempo.

VO2 max also useful mind as if you're increasing that you are obviously doing something right...

I've been diagnosed with exertion induced asthma - I was getting bordering on an asthma attack every time I ran hard for more than 5 minutes. Got an inhaler and have been grand since. Did a 5k last weekend and didn't end well.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 01, 2012, 04:26:41 PM
Have you ever heard of the rumble roller ballinaman?(http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rumble-Roller-Extra-Firm-Black/dp/B004INOO8Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1338563824&sr=8-3 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Rumble-Roller-Extra-Firm-Black/dp/B004INOO8Y/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1338563824&sr=8-3)) I have one of them and they are some job. Basically a hard foam roller with "knubbles". Very very good for getting into places the average foam roller wouldn't get near. (hamstrings,calves, hip flexors).

Bingo for 5 and 10ks a good one to do would be to get your Lactate Threshold tested so you know where to train pace-wise on your tempo.

VO2 max also useful mind as if you're increasing that you are obviously doing something right...

I've been diagnosed with exertion induced asthma - I was getting bordering on an asthma attack every time I ran hard for more than 5 minutes. Got an inhaler and have been grand since. Did a 5k last weekend and didn't end well.
Aye, they are very good alright, not for the faint hearted though! Finding rocking side to side on the foam roller for the calves the best though, absolute killer but works well.
Jeeze, its more common that you think though. Did you have the inhaler before the 5K and still didn't end well?? You won't have any problems once you get on the right inhaler.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on June 01, 2012, 05:00:17 PM
Only got the inhaler yesterday and did a tempo last night. Seemed to do the trick.

I was in the lead pack and could have won the 5k(just a parkrun) then it just looked like I blew up when I could have held the pace alright  ::)

Ai, rumble roller not for the faint hearted is right. I must try that with the calves.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 03, 2012, 02:06:08 PM
Newry half well and truly done. Delighted with time of 1.36.18. Kept a good steady pace throughout and was thankful as the last mile was tough, great lift seeing a crowd and the finish line.

Legs not be fit for much today!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on June 03, 2012, 03:56:44 PM
Newry half well and truly done. Delighted with time of 1.36.18. Kept a good steady pace throughout and was thankful as the last mile was tough, great lift seeing a crowd and the finish line.

Legs not be fit for much today!
Fair play Bingo...great running. I died a death from 10 in the first half I did this time last year. Fair play to ya.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on June 05, 2012, 12:25:05 PM
Newry half well and truly done. Delighted with time of 1.36.18. Kept a good steady pace throughout and was thankful as the last mile was tough, great lift seeing a crowd and the finish line.

Legs not be fit for much today!
Fair play Bingo...great running. I died a death from 10 in the first half I did this time last year. Fair play to ya.

Cheers.

It was a lovely course, one big hill in it but was ready for it and the run down it was great. Weather was great as well, bit of drizzle at start but was welcome and nice an cool on way round.

Debating weather to go for the Dublin marathon now. Few have said I should, as I've alot done but the step on from the halfs will be tough. Might keep building on the miles and see how I get on.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 21, 2012, 09:54:50 AM
Just about to hit out for a 20 miler......times like this I wish I wasn't arsed and could sleep in...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 21, 2012, 10:08:54 AM

Run of Champions!!!

29/07/2011 @ 1pm. This is an annual 10K run, jog or walk round the beautiful countryside of Crossmaglen. The route suits everyone who wants a challenge. The course record is 32:16 held by Gary O'Hanlon and female record 36:12 held by Julie Turley..29/07/2012 @ 1pm. Starting at Crossmaglen Rangers GFC Grounds.

If I can do it anyone can!!!!
 
You can register through this link

http://www.runireland.com/events/crossmaglen-10k-challenge-0 (http://www.runireland.com/events/crossmaglen-10k-challenge-0)

Bump for this race lads, I know Bingo will give it a rattle, depending on how my head is I will do it too :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on July 21, 2012, 11:16:35 AM
Just about to hit out for a 20 miler......times like this I wish I wasn't arsed and could sleep in...

i'd call 10'0 clock a sleep in ballinaman  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 24, 2012, 09:40:10 AM
Good man BC1, you all set for Sunday then? I'd say you are peaking perfectly for it

Few from Blayney heading up from what I hear, i imagine that you's are hoping for a bigger crowd than last year.
Be chipping away at a few 10kms and Duathlons recently, great weather for the bike with the warm air.

You going for the Marathon Ballinaman then? Undecided myself, have been building up my miles with a view to it but need to commit one way or another fairly soon I suppose.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 24, 2012, 09:52:06 AM
You going for the Marathon Ballinaman then? Undecided myself, have been building up my miles with a view to it but need to commit one way or another fairly soon I suppose.
Thats the plan. Have to enter before July 31st before it goes up by another ten euro. You can get 10miles, half marathon and marathon for 100 euro if you enter all three. Going to do the 3/4 marathon in Athlone on October 7th as well, heard good things about it last year and sets you up perfectly for the marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 03:27:33 PM
Have just entered my first Triathlon, well it's a sprint one so it shouldn't be too bad. Would be good enough swimmer and the running will be fine just haven't done enough biking over the years to gauge how well I'd do on the saddle.

Haven't got a decent bike for road racing so will have to borrow one, but looking forward to giving it ago.

Any posters here do Triathlons regularly who can give some tips on it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 25, 2012, 03:54:11 PM
Have just entered my first Triathlon, well it's a sprint one so it shouldn't be too bad. Would be good enough swimmer and the running will be fine just haven't done enough biking over the years to gauge how well I'd do on the saddle.

Haven't got a decent bike for road racing so will have to borrow one, but looking forward to giving it ago.

Any posters here do Triathlons regularly who can give some tips on it?

Best of look with it. Heading that direction myself, swimming nearly non-existant but have lessons arranged for over winter with local Tri club.

A lad I know done his first recently and said the start in the swim is the most chaotic thing. He was advised to stay well back or to side, and to then slot in as the field stretched out. It worked out well for him.

Bike is key. In a few where I have done the bike and run on relay teams, the Triathletes are really strong on the bike. It can be fustrating doing what you think is decent and them flying past. Get the use of a good road bike and get used to it - gear settings, get sized for seat and bar setting, if cleats they need practice for stopping and starting.

The biggest factor is the transition from one leg to the other. I know from coming off bike and into running, the legs feel like jelly and it takes a while for that feeling to leave them. A couple of brick sessions are advisable - swim and cycle, cycle and run to get used to the changes.

That be a very basic look at it and I'm sure some of the more experienced folks would have alot more to say on it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 04:06:57 PM
Have just entered my first Triathlon, well it's a sprint one so it shouldn't be too bad. Would be good enough swimmer and the running will be fine just haven't done enough biking over the years to gauge how well I'd do on the saddle.

Haven't got a decent bike for road racing so will have to borrow one, but looking forward to giving it ago.

Any posters here do Triathlons regularly who can give some tips on it?

Best of look with it. Heading that direction myself, swimming nearly non-existant but have lessons arranged for over winter with local Tri club.

A lad I know done his first recently and said the start in the swim is the most chaotic thing. He was advised to stay well back or to side, and to then slot in as the field stretched out. It worked out well for him.

Bike is key. In a few where I have done the bike and run on relay teams, the Triathletes are really strong on the bike. It can be fustrating doing what you think is decent and them flying past. Get the use of a good road bike and get used to it - gear settings, get sized for seat and bar setting, if cleats they need practice for stopping and starting.

The biggest factor is the transition from one leg to the other. I know from coming off bike and into running, the legs feel like jelly and it takes a while for that feeling to leave them. A couple of brick sessions are advisable - swim and cycle, cycle and run to get used to the changes.

That be a very basic look at it and I'm sure some of the more experienced folks would have alot more to say on it.

Cheers Bingo, Its the bike that I'm more worried about, plan to do practice one at the gym on Friday, DW gym has a 20 meter pool so will do 40 lengths, get of and do 12 miles on the bike (though the indoor bike would be impossible to gauge) and finish with the run. This should give me a roundabout time, but in fairness I just want to see how I cope with the different disciplines.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 25, 2012, 06:42:06 PM
Milltown if ur a swimmer then I think you've the best start, it's easy to improve on the others.

I do a good few and the key things to look out for in the first one are the start, basically a washing machine, some lads go daft swinging elbows, uncalled for but it can knock u off ur stride.
Kick hard before transition 1, stops dizziness, on the bike it's all about hills, when u get training on the bike get out on them. Practice is key when changing from bike to run, the first few times its real tough. Every time u go out on the bike u should do a couple of km running.

Where is it? Good luck
Title: Re: Running
Post by: hardstation on July 25, 2012, 07:31:56 PM
By good swimmer, he means he has never drowned.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 07:52:04 PM
Milltown if ur a swimmer then I think you've the best start, it's easy to improve on the others.

I do a good few and the key things to look out for in the first one are the start, basically a washing machine, some lads go daft swinging elbows, uncalled for but it can knock u off ur stride.
Kick hard before transition 1, stops dizziness, on the bike it's all about hills, when u get training on the bike get out on them. Practice is key when changing from bike to run, the first few times its real tough. Every time u go out on the bike u should do a couple of km running.

Where is it? Good luck

Valley Leisure Center, Newtownabbey. Seems to be a right few events still available. The swim is at the pool so no open water yet. So it shouldn't be too crazy with the pool antics.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on July 25, 2012, 10:21:31 PM
Went running monday night and tonight after not doing it for a few weeks.
I'm fecking broke up, every bone and joint in my body is killing me and I'm as stiff as a poker.
I didn't feel this bad when I first started so why now?
Is there anything I can do or is it just a matter of keeping at it and working through the pain?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on July 25, 2012, 10:36:36 PM
Milltown if ur a swimmer then I think you've the best start, it's easy to improve on the others.

I do a good few and the key things to look out for in the first one are the start, basically a washing machine, some lads go daft swinging elbows, uncalled for but it can knock u off ur stride.
Kick hard before transition 1, stops dizziness, on the bike it's all about hills, when u get training on the bike get out on them. Practice is key when changing from bike to run, the first few times its real tough. Every time u go out on the bike u should do a couple of km running.

Where is it? Good luck

Valley Leisure Center, Newtownabbey. Seems to be a right few events still available. The swim is at the pool so no open water yet. So it shouldn't be too crazy with the pool antics.

How does it work Milltown? Is there a limit on the number that can do it, or staggered starts? Wouldnt imagine a pool could hold too many unless they have no lanes and let everyone work away, in which case it would be a lot worse than open water!!

I'm looking to get into triathlons myself, and it sounds like a perfect event to do so, but is probably too close for, and will be at football right up until then too which isnt ideal
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 10:39:02 PM
Went running monday night and tonight after not doing it for a few weeks.
I'm fecking broke up, every bone and joint in my body is killing me and I'm as stiff as a poker.
I didn't feel this bad when I first started so why now?
Is there anything I can do or is it just a matter of keeping at it and working through the pain?

Just work through it, was away for a few weeks on hols, came back and went to the gym and did thursday, Friday and Sat morning!! was aching and sore, struggled through and went again Monday and Wed morning. Feeling grand now, and looking forward to getting back into the routine again.

Good stretching and hit the pool if you can afterwards. But stretching is important
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 10:47:13 PM
Milltown if ur a swimmer then I think you've the best start, it's easy to improve on the others.

I do a good few and the key things to look out for in the first one are the start, basically a washing machine, some lads go daft swinging elbows, uncalled for but it can knock u off ur stride.
Kick hard before transition 1, stops dizziness, on the bike it's all about hills, when u get training on the bike get out on them. Practice is key when changing from bike to run, the first few times its real tough. Every time u go out on the bike u should do a couple of km running.

Where is it? Good luck

Valley Leisure Center, Newtownabbey. Seems to be a right few events still available. The swim is at the pool so no open water yet. So it shouldn't be too crazy with the pool antics.

How does it work Milltown? Is there a limit on the number that can do it, or staggered starts? Wouldnt imagine a pool could hold too many unless they have no lanes and let everyone work away, in which case it would be a lot worse than open water!!

I'm looking to get into triathlons myself, and it sounds like a perfect event to do so, but is probably too close for, and will be at football right up until then too which isnt ideal

Its a staggered race I believe, they have asked what times you can do in the swim beforehand and how many minutes you can do the run in when I registered. I think the sprint triathlons are the perfect start for beginners but the thing is that there will be strong competitors there who'll be looking to do 13 minute swims, 18 minute runs and 16/20 minute cycles!!

I'm looking to do 28 minute swim, 30/35 bike and 25 minute run. Will see if that happens though. Still hurling away myself, albeit in the z squad but still feel the need for competition.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on July 25, 2012, 10:57:33 PM
Just had a look at last years results, winner 10 min swim, which is 20 second lengths (!), then 32 min cycle, and 14 min run!! Under 3 min km!!

Like you, would have little to no experience of bike, but would have decent swimming. Its def too early for me though. Will do it next year!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 25, 2012, 11:29:48 PM
Just had a look at last years results, winner 10 min swim, which is 20 second lengths (!), then 32 min cycle, and 14 min run!! Under 3 min km!!

Like you, would have little to no experience of bike, but would have decent swimming. Its def too early for me though. Will do it next year!!

Well I thought I'd leave it for a year also but fcuk it will give it a bash to get her done. Friends have done the Nice IronMan during June, they said it was unreal. Watched it the following Sunday and it looked brilliant. The start looked like a massive wave of arms. They said the DJ had them worked up to a frenzy before the race and they managed (debutants) to finish it in 14 hours. The winner finished in 8h34minutes. 3.8 km swim, 180.2 km bike ride and a Marathon to finish!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 26, 2012, 11:58:46 AM
Them finishers times for the Ironman are incredible. Any reports on an Ironman really push towards trying one, a serious event. You also read some on some forums of people dismissing them as they say their is no real race as such or competitiveness to them, as 99% of people in them want to just finish. Find that very hard to understand myself!

Hopefully in 4/5 years we will be on here discussing our Ironman adventures  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 26, 2012, 12:32:10 PM
I watched one in Groomsport last year Bingo. Wouldn't be my bag but a serious event. Most of the half ironman people were struggling.  There were 3 in the full ironman.

The triathlons, unless you're at the top end, seem to be a lot about completing rather than competing anyway. To be doing those distances in three disciplines like that you're doing well to complete never mind compete.

The 5k time for newtonabbey was 16 odd for the winner - most runners up here can barely run 14 minutes for a 5k...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2012, 12:38:45 PM
Them finishers times for the Ironman are incredible. Any reports on an Ironman really push towards trying one, a serious event. You also read some on some forums of people dismissing them as they say their is no real race as such or competitiveness to them, as 99% of people in them want to just finish. Find that very hard to understand myself!

Hopefully in 4/5 years we will be on here discussing our Ironman adventures  ;)

Anyone who says those things obviously haven't done them before, Lance Armstrong competes in them and other serious athletes. The time they finished the marathon in was around 3 hours for FFS, that's after the 3.8 k swin and 180.2 km bike run in the mountains!!

I'd be way off the mark for anything close to that but would like by the end of next season to have competed in a proper triathlon and maybe look at the following year to doing an Ironman. The couple I know that competed in the Iron man really only started swimming this year, within 8 months they have become very competent swimmers and completed the swim in Nice in 1.10h.

Yes completing the thing would be a big thing imtommygunn, but I'd say like most sports you will always want to improve and after completing then it will be about competing
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 26, 2012, 12:47:54 PM
imtommygun, i would imagine the Ironman and triathlons are like any event and people will be only competing against themselves alright.

What I was probably suggesting, that for many it will be a one off and infrequent, a box to tick and time will be indifferent regardless. For all other events, people are repeating the distance and looking to get better times and PB's - be it 5km, 10km, half and full marathons or even sprint, olympic or HIM triathlons.

For alot of triathletes, that I was refering to, they probably see it as a once off that would take a full year to prepare for and they'd be unlikely to repeat this, so they don't view it as something to aspire to, as the self competitiveness isn't there.

Saying that, at the recent Austria Ironman, after Austria and UK, Ireland was the third best represented nation there and this will improve with the HIM in Galway now a fixture on the calender.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2012, 01:00:05 PM
imtommygun, i would imagine the Ironman and triathlons are like any event and people will be only competing against themselves alright.

What I was probably suggesting, that for many it will be a one off and infrequent, a box to tick and time will be indifferent regardless. For all other events, people are repeating the distance and looking to get better times and PB's - be it 5km, 10km, half and full marathons or even sprint, olympic or HIM triathlons.

For alot of triathletes, that I was refering to, they probably see it as a once off that would take a full year to prepare for and they'd be unlikely to repeat this, so they don't view it as something to aspire to, as the self competitiveness isn't there.

Saying that, at the recent Austria Ironman, after Austria and UK, Ireland was the third best represented nation there and this will improve with the HIM in Galway now a fixture on the calender.

Out of the thousands that competed in Nice, half were first timers, regular competitors of triathlons but first time Ironmen/women. Hawaii have one every year also and other far off places, Sydney and USA. You'd build a holiday around an event like that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 26, 2012, 02:00:47 PM
imtommygun, i would imagine the Ironman and triathlons are like any event and people will be only competing against themselves alright.

What I was probably suggesting, that for many it will be a one off and infrequent, a box to tick and time will be indifferent regardless. For all other events, people are repeating the distance and looking to get better times and PB's - be it 5km, 10km, half and full marathons or even sprint, olympic or HIM triathlons.

For alot of triathletes, that I was refering to, they probably see it as a once off that would take a full year to prepare for and they'd be unlikely to repeat this, so they don't view it as something to aspire to, as the self competitiveness isn't there.

Saying that, at the recent Austria Ironman, after Austria and UK, Ireland was the third best represented nation there and this will improve with the HIM in Galway now a fixture on the calender.

Out of the thousands that competed in Nice, half were first timers, regular competitors of triathlons but first time Ironmen/women. Hawaii have one every year also and other far off places, Sydney and USA. You'd build a holiday around an event like that.

One of the local lads has qualified for the World Ironman in Las Vegas this Septemper. He is practically fulltime training this year.

I was reading on one forum where someone said to compete in one can cost a couple of grand in terms of the actual event itself - travel, bike travel, entry fee, accomodation etc Thats before any expense in terms of training and gear etc. Not cheap.

Hawaii is the original Ironman i believe. Not sure after competing one, you'd be in much form for a holiday as such  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 26, 2012, 02:15:36 PM
I'd say you're right bingo. The ironman is a particularly savage event though and would take some training to finish never mind compete in.  A marathon after all that cycling and swimming is rough going.

I don't know, endurance wise, what would compare to an ironman. You'd need to be talking marathon de sables or some of those mad ultra marathons.

There's a boy I think from Bellaghy in Derry who's world class at the triathlons - I think the ironman.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 26, 2012, 02:32:21 PM
You'd be looking at the very top end of the ultra-marathons I'd imagine or the adventure racing that is often spread out over big distances and lasts 24/36 hours. It normally on unmarked routes with numerous checkpoints, requires nagivation skills and has tasks along the way.

http://www.beastofballyhoura.com/ (http://www.beastofballyhoura.com/) This one seems to the most popular in Ireland.

I been reading on the Ironman recently and training plans have from 10 hrs per week (14-15 hr finish) to 20 hrs per week (8-10hrs finish).
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on July 26, 2012, 02:33:25 PM
Indeed there is . . .

http://martin-muldoon.blogspot.ie/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 26, 2012, 02:36:15 PM
Didn't mind the name but that's him alright.

Adventure racing is a big thing these days. Some money in it and mad stuff some of it. Seems a slightly lesser extreme of the triathlons.

Triathlons seem very addictive but never had the inclination myself.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on July 26, 2012, 02:37:16 PM
Competing in the triathlons is all relative, very few people are going to win one. There's a lad Eric Wolfe in cork and he finishes 2nd every tri to another lad, ur man is just faster, so he's probably always competing to stay ahead of 3rd.
Me, I'd be hoping for top 20%, that's always the goal, as I get better that'll increase but I'll always be competing rather than completing. Complete the first one then you've a target.

That run must be short at 14mins, you'd expect triathletes to be doing 16/17. The pool swim is meant to be a curse, lads not giving way to faster swimmers.

I've Kilkenny this weekend, 1200 people, off in 11 waves though I'd prefer 2 or 3. Masterchef are providing grub after though!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on July 26, 2012, 06:15:03 PM
Just nipped to gym and tried that distance in the pool, 21 minutes flat. Punctured but will try to break the twenty mark before the race. Nearly fainted in shower FFS. Nah food in me
Title: Re: Running
Post by: haranguerer on July 26, 2012, 11:26:21 PM

There's a boy I think from Bellaghy in Derry who's world class at the triathlons - I think the ironman.

Theres a lad from Fermanagh who actually is world class at the triathlons; he'll be on the start line at Hyde park in a week or sos time!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneman on July 26, 2012, 11:56:42 PM
This may be a bit indelicate..... but for long runs...how do you counteract needing to go to the toilet 5-6 miles in?

I  (no nicer way of putting it) fill the bowl before a run but invariably need to go again mid run.....is immodium an option?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 27, 2012, 09:20:15 AM
This may be a bit indelicate..... but for long runs...how do you counteract needing to go to the toilet 5-6 miles in?

I  (no nicer way of putting it) fill the bowl before a run but invariably need to go again mid run.....is immodium an option?

No. 2 I assume?

Luckily never had the problem but if you fill the bowl before hand, surprised you need to go again within the hour. Maybe look at the diet?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on July 27, 2012, 09:33:10 AM
A girl I train with actually started talked about this to me the other week TM. Apparently it's very common and yes immodium or an equivalent seems to be the answer...

I wondered where that guy was from haranguerer - sounds like he's world class but maybe just a bit short of medal standard. Probably similar to Morrison although if she has one of her better days she will maybe have an outside chance of a medal.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on July 27, 2012, 12:50:20 PM
This may be a bit indelicate..... but for long runs...how do you counteract needing to go to the toilet 5-6 miles in?

I  (no nicer way of putting it) fill the bowl before a run but invariably need to go again mid run.....is immodium an option?

No. 2 I assume?

Luckily never had the problem but if you fill the bowl before hand, surprised you need to go again within the hour. Maybe look at the diet?
Bit heavy on the fibre and greens maybe? Had to ease off on the spinach myself..... ;)eye of the needle job...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 27, 2012, 12:52:36 PM
This may be a bit indelicate..... but for long runs...how do you counteract needing to go to the toilet 5-6 miles in?

I  (no nicer way of putting it) fill the bowl before a run but invariably need to go again mid run.....is immodium an option?

No. 2 I assume?

Luckily never had the problem but if you fill the bowl before hand, surprised you need to go again within the hour. Maybe look at the diet?
Bit heavy on the fibre and greens maybe? Had to ease off on the spinach myself..... ;)eye of the needle job...

The beetroot juice would help clear out all the pipes  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 30, 2012, 10:53:14 AM
BC1 did you do the run yesterday? Did it myself, finished on 43.26, reasonably happy with that. Was going well until just after the 7km mark when the wind was into the face and hills started rising longer and more frequent than before. Struggled to the 9km mark but then recovered to finish string enough, had hoped to touch the PB mark of 42 but 7-9km put paid to that. Knee swollen as well today and a bit stiff, always seem to come out the worse for wear from Cross!!

Was a great event and the heavy showers held off. Finsihers medal was more like a small trophy and was great. Winning time of just under 31mins was a serious run. Think they had about 300 altogether for it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 30, 2012, 11:00:50 AM
BC1 did you do the run yesterday? Did it myself, finished on 43.26, reasonably happy with that. Was going well until just after the 7km mark when the wind was into the face and hills started rising longer and more frequent than before. Struggled to the 9km mark but then recovered to finish string enough, had hoped to touch the PB mark of 42 but 7-9km put paid to that. Knee swollen as well today and a bit stiff, always seem to come out the worse for wear from Cross!!

Was a great event and the heavy showers held off. Finsihers medal was more like a small trophy and was great. Winning time of just under 31mins was a serious run. Think they had about 300 altogether for it.

Didn't make it Bingo, haven't been training due to other commitments and have been struggling with a calf problem.  Heard ot was a good day though, but I ended up at a beer tent with a few rugby heads at a 7's tournament so I think maybe I had the best idea :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on July 30, 2012, 11:07:48 AM
BC1 did you do the run yesterday? Did it myself, finished on 43.26, reasonably happy with that. Was going well until just after the 7km mark when the wind was into the face and hills started rising longer and more frequent than before. Struggled to the 9km mark but then recovered to finish string enough, had hoped to touch the PB mark of 42 but 7-9km put paid to that. Knee swollen as well today and a bit stiff, always seem to come out the worse for wear from Cross!!

Was a great event and the heavy showers held off. Finsihers medal was more like a small trophy and was great. Winning time of just under 31mins was a serious run. Think they had about 300 altogether for it.

Didn't make it Bingo, haven't been training due to other commitments and have been struggling with a calf problem.  Heard ot was a good day though, but I ended up at a beer tent with a few rugby heads at a 7's tournament so I think maybe I had the best idea :P

You had it right! Running up those hills towards the square, I was thinking if Gerry O'donnells is open, I'll dive in there for one to get me home!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 30, 2012, 11:13:58 AM
BC1 did you do the run yesterday? Did it myself, finished on 43.26, reasonably happy with that. Was going well until just after the 7km mark when the wind was into the face and hills started rising longer and more frequent than before. Struggled to the 9km mark but then recovered to finish string enough, had hoped to touch the PB mark of 42 but 7-9km put paid to that. Knee swollen as well today and a bit stiff, always seem to come out the worse for wear from Cross!!

Was a great event and the heavy showers held off. Finsihers medal was more like a small trophy and was great. Winning time of just under 31mins was a serious run. Think they had about 300 altogether for it.

Didn't make it Bingo, haven't been training due to other commitments and have been struggling with a calf problem.  Heard ot was a good day though, but I ended up at a beer tent with a few rugby heads at a 7's tournament so I think maybe I had the best idea :P

You had it right! Running up those hills towards the square, I was thinking if Gerry O'donnells is open, I'll dive in there for one to get me home!

I went for a walk with the dogs at lunchtime and got home at 7 o'clock!!  Wife and kids were with me though so wasn't too raucous!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Puckoon on August 01, 2012, 09:48:35 PM
Anyone tried the Nike Free shoe for any kind of regular running?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 01, 2012, 09:57:13 PM
Anyone tried the Nike Free shoe for any kind of regular running?
Wouldn't touch them myself. Don't fix what ain't broken attitude, been using regular running shoes for 10 years now without a problem.
Reliable research is still sketchy.

Good article on pro's and con's here though.

http://www.runninginjuryfree.org/2008/09/should-you-run-in-minimalist-shoes.html

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on August 07, 2012, 11:28:55 PM
Interesting documentry about Brother Colm in Kenya, Man on a Mission on RTE 1. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 20, 2012, 10:09:30 AM
Committed to Dublin marathon and have stepped up the miles in last few weeks. Had a 15 miler yesterday and got through it rightly, was a warm heavy morning but bit of cloud cover helped keep the sun off.

Anyone done the athlone half marathon in September? Seems a popular one and a fairly flat one as well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on August 20, 2012, 10:25:20 AM
I've recently started doing a bit of ruinning this past few weeks as there is a 10k coming up on 8th September. I've worked my way up to 5k and did that in about 25 mins on Friday.

Is it a huge step up for the 10 and is it doable in 3 weeks?? What way should I be approaching it?

Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on August 20, 2012, 10:26:53 AM
I've recently started doing a bit of ruinning this past few weeks

Who was she?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 20, 2012, 10:32:39 AM
I've recently started doing a bit of ruinning this past few weeks as there is a 10k coming up on 8th September. I've worked my way up to 5k and did that in about 25 mins on Friday.

Is it a huge step up for the 10 and is it doable in 3 weeks?? What way should I be approaching it?

Just got to go further. Your 5k times is grand for a few weeks. I'd slow down and go further over the next two weeks. Add a few km on this week, no reason you couldn't be up to 8km at weekend. Get the pace right at the start, don't blow yourself out in first km trying to force a pace.

A good guide is that you should be able to hold a conversation as you run, should help keep you at a pace that you can extend the run.

On the day, you'll squeeze out an extra effort as well for fear of failure  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on August 20, 2012, 10:41:39 AM
I mentioned this a while ago on the thread, but for the first time on Saturday took part in the Park Run in North Belfast Waterworks Park - a timed 5k run every Saturday.  My time was rubbish but something to build on - came around the middle of the field and def should have done better.

There were 150 people taking part (running and walking) and it was a great wee event.  I'll def be back on Saturday coming.

Screenexile - good luck.  I'm at about 7k (after not running for a few months I had to start again) and think I'll be ready for 10k soon if I can remember not to run too fast at the start (always my problem).




Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 20, 2012, 10:48:48 AM
I did it on Saturday as well Rois. Great wee event no matter what level of fitness etc and good training for races.

Screenexile approach it by doing the distance slow in training. On the day you'll be grand as people will carry you round (to a point) but try doing 10k a couple of times with the pace manageable enough that you can do it.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 20, 2012, 10:53:38 AM
Yep,

Get the distance in training a few times and you'll fine fine Screen. If you could get a couple of 12km runs in too, you'll be sorted.

Anyone doing Dublin in October here lads? Training ramping up now, managed 65 miles last week with a 21 on Sat morn.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on August 20, 2012, 10:56:25 AM
Did my first ever track race last week BM. Crept under 10 minutes for a 3,000. It was a whole new world of pain.

Not doing dublin. 65 is good mileage. Hitting about 45 at present with a few 10ks coming up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 20, 2012, 11:01:56 AM
Did my first ever track race last week BM. Crept under 10 minutes for a 3,000. It was a whole new world of pain.

Not doing dublin. 65 is good mileage. Hitting about 45 at present with a few 10ks coming up.
Sub 10 is nice clipping, plenty of interval and tempo work to get down around there.Hopefully get back in the speed game next year once I get this marathon done. The training for marathon is a pain in the arse, really time consuming. Up at 8 this morn to get a 10 in before work now.
Don't know how those Ironman lads do it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 20, 2012, 11:06:41 AM
Yep,

Get the distance in training a few times and you'll fine fine Screen. If you could get a couple of 12km runs in too, you'll be sorted.

Anyone doing Dublin in October here lads? Training ramping up now, managed 65 miles last week with a 21 on Sat morn.

Just posted on end of last page, yeah I'm doing it. Will be first one.

Had a bit of knee problem for few weeks, so was a bit off schedule but got back on track the last few weeks. Did 37 miles last week, 15 yesterday plus 20km on the bike one evening.

Sticking to the training plan i have done for, will get a few 20miles in but not going further than that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 20, 2012, 11:19:50 AM
Yep,

Get the distance in training a few times and you'll fine fine Screen. If you could get a couple of 12km runs in too, you'll be sorted.

Anyone doing Dublin in October here lads? Training ramping up now, managed 65 miles last week with a 21 on Sat morn.

Just posted on end of last page, yeah I'm doing it. Will be first one.

Had a bit of knee problem for few weeks, so was a bit off schedule but got back on track the last few weeks. Did 37 miles last week, 15 yesterday plus 20km on the bike one evening.

Sticking to the training plan i have done for, will get a few 20miles in but not going further than that.

Did I see you skipping up past the entrance to Concra yesterday evening around 4.30? Looked very like you at a quick glance.  I was flying as I was late for a very important date ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 20, 2012, 11:25:55 AM
Yep,

Get the distance in training a few times and you'll fine fine Screen. If you could get a couple of 12km runs in too, you'll be sorted.

Anyone doing Dublin in October here lads? Training ramping up now, managed 65 miles last week with a 21 on Sat morn.

Just posted on end of last page, yeah I'm doing it. Will be first one.

Had a bit of knee problem for few weeks, so was a bit off schedule but got back on track the last few weeks. Did 37 miles last week, 15 yesterday plus 20km on the bike one evening.

Sticking to the training plan i have done for, will get a few 20miles in but not going further than that.

Did I see you skipping up past the entrance to Concra yesterday evening around 4.30? Looked very like you at a quick glance.  I was flying as I was late for a very important date ;)

I passed it yesterday at alright but it was 8.30 yesterday morning. And about a hour later. I try and get it done before people rise, they don't need to see me bounding round the place in tight shorts  ;)

I had hoped to get down to that date but had a kids birthday party. Impressive result, your magic must be beginning to work!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 20, 2012, 11:29:02 AM
Yep,

Get the distance in training a few times and you'll fine fine Screen. If you could get a couple of 12km runs in too, you'll be sorted.

Anyone doing Dublin in October here lads? Training ramping up now, managed 65 miles last week with a 21 on Sat morn.

Just posted on end of last page, yeah I'm doing it. Will be first one.

Had a bit of knee problem for few weeks, so was a bit off schedule but got back on track the last few weeks. Did 37 miles last week, 15 yesterday plus 20km on the bike one evening.

Sticking to the training plan i have done for, will get a few 20miles in but not going further than that.

Did I see you skipping up past the entrance to Concra yesterday evening around 4.30? Looked very like you at a quick glance.  I was flying as I was late for a very important date ;)

I passed it yesterday at alright but it was 8.30 yesterday morning. And about a hour later. I try and get it done before people rise, they don't need to see me bounding round the place in tight shorts  ;)I had hoped to get down to that date but had a kids birthday party. Impressive result, your magic must be beginning to work!

I'd say that's a sight to behold alright, that is the same reason why I run under the cover of darkness, no fair on the childers!!  Starting a real push now at the end of the holidays, kids back to school and no excuses!

Result was good alright, don't know if its me or not but something's working at the minute!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on August 20, 2012, 11:53:33 AM
Yep,

Get the distance in training a few times and you'll fine fine Screen. If you could get a couple of 12km runs in too, you'll be sorted.

Anyone doing Dublin in October here lads? Training ramping up now, managed 65 miles last week with a 21 on Sat morn.

Just posted on end of last page, yeah I'm doing it. Will be first one.

Had a bit of knee problem for few weeks, so was a bit off schedule but got back on track the last few weeks. Did 37 miles last week, 15 yesterday plus 20km on the bike one evening.

Sticking to the training plan i have done for, will get a few 20miles in but not going further than that.
Good man. Its tough going but worth it in the end. I was buzzing after the first one last year, may I stress "after" it there, torture from 17 miles onwards for myself so it was..haha. I'm on a sub 3 program at the minute, will give it a shot but won't be devastated if i don't do it, auld lads Pb of 3.11 hopefully will be taken. Did 3.23 last year and went to pieces for last 8 miles so not going to make that same mistake again anyways!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 20, 2012, 11:56:40 AM
I'd say that's a sight to behold alright, that is the same reason why I run under the cover of darkness, no fair on the childers!!  Starting a real push now at the end of the holidays, kids back to school and no excuses!

Result was good alright, don't know if its me or not but something's working at the minute!

Never mind the childers, you'll have the women road walkers after you in no time. If you start now, you'll be ready for Croke Park on St Patricks day, spring from the bench for last 10 mins to seal the deal. Or be back on it for last 9 mins with a red card to the name  ;)

Take the credit when it going  :) They should never have been where they were, plenty of talent there and with the momentum now, they'll take stopping.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on August 20, 2012, 12:02:27 PM
Good man. Its tough going but worth it in the end. I was buzzing after the first one last year, may I stress "after" it there, torture from 17 miles onwards for myself so it was..haha. I'm on a sub 3 program at the minute, will give it a shot but won't be devastated if i don't do it, auld lads Pb of 3.11 hopefully will be taken. Did 3.23 last year and went to pieces for last 8 miles so not going to make that same mistake again anyways!

It tough alright. Actually found the first half harder yesterday than final 7 miles, maybe it was early morning start but was happy at the end to do it. There is a sunday morning running group but there was a local 10 mile race on yesterday, so they all headed for it. I wanted to stick to the longer, slower run.

Thats a hell of target for yourself but by looking at your time on here, you could well hit. One of the local runners targetted sub 3 for the london marathon and really pushed his training for it, 6 months he put in for it. He blew up with 3/4 miles to go and missed it by 8 mins. He was devastated but had invested so much in it. He going again for it in Dublin.

The fmaily bragging rights be very important!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on September 05, 2012, 10:59:02 PM
Some advice needed,

After ten years of no exercise, i am back 2 months now. the standard week is bootcamp twice a week and a flat 7k and uphill 8k twice a week, getting faster all the time, the 7k is around 35 mins.

A couple of things, my calves always seem tight for the first 2 k but then loosen out, is this normal enought, also is there a decent watch out there that i could use to mark my distance versus time running, i have seen the GPS watches, but they are mad money.

Love the running now i have to say, a stone off in the last month as well, just keeping it casual, no marathons for me, just the odd 10k now and again,

Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 06, 2012, 09:59:59 AM
Some advice needed,

After ten years of no exercise, i am back 2 months now. the standard week is bootcamp twice a week and a flat 7k and uphill 8k twice a week, getting faster all the time, the 7k is around 35 mins.

A couple of things, my calves always seem tight for the first 2 k but then loosen out, is this normal enought, also is there a decent watch out there that i could use to mark my distance versus time running, i have seen the GPS watches, but they are mad money.

Love the running now i have to say, a stone off in the last month as well, just keeping it casual, no marathons for me, just the odd 10k now and again,
Good stuff, welcome to the endorphin addiction club.

I'd look after the calves, can develop Achilles and plantar fasciitis problems if you don't keep them loose. A foam roller is your best bet, I order from physiosupplies.com...they have a depot in Dublin and will get them out to you quickly. I'd start off the the short white one for yourself and then move onto black after a couple of months. The rumble roller will probably give you a heart attack if you start with it. Plenty of videos on youtube as to how to use them.

The GPS watches are the only way to get distance accurately unfortunately but you can get a rough guide if you set the clock on the car or else do a small measured loop course.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Never beat the deeler on September 06, 2012, 10:05:05 AM
Any of you guys use phone apps to measure the distance / speed etc?

Have downloaded one called Map My Run but havent had a chance to use it yet
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on September 06, 2012, 10:08:31 AM
An Gaeilgoir most smartphones have free gps apps that will give you distance,pace,time and even a map of where you ran.
Runkeeper is a very good one. I just bought a arm strap for the iPhone off eBay for a couple of euros.
Surely a man in a high powered job like yourself has a smartphone!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 06, 2012, 10:23:54 AM
I much prefer the GPS watches, far easier to manage and use when on the run, one quick look at the watch and you have your distance, pace, time, speed, lap time etc etc.

I'm sure the smartphone does all this but with the size of them, they either in the pocket or strapped to the arm and takes a bit of effort to get into eyeshot when running.

The smartphones apps though are very good mind and will talk to you when used to full affect but alot of the time I'd not be listening with the earplugs in.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on September 06, 2012, 10:32:03 AM
Have my big 10k on Saturday now. I had done 2 5k runs at the beginning of August but the knee was at me (I've had 2 cruciate operations in the last 3 years) so had to take a break for a couple of weeks. The physio has told me I shouldn't be running on the roads but the 10k is in memory of a lad from here and I said I would do it this time so I feel I have to. Anyway I did the course the other night and broke the hour mark.

I had only meant to toodle around it to get an idea of the course but after taking 32 mins for the first 5k (with a lot of hills) I decided to push on and did the 2nd in 25.

I would like to break the 50 minute mark but is there any kind of strategy I should be using? Like I said I haven't done much training but would 5 mins hard and then 2 minutes slow get me a decent time or what kind of strategies do others use for 10ks?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2012, 10:43:55 AM
Have my big 10k on Saturday now. I had done 2 5k runs at the beginning of August but the knee was at me (I've had 2 cruciate operations in the last 3 years) so had to take a break for a couple of weeks. The physio has told me I shouldn't be running on the roads but the 10k is in memory of a lad from here and I said I would do it this time so I feel I have to. Anyway I did the course the other night and broke the hour mark.

I had only meant to toodle around it to get an idea of the course but after taking 32 mins for the first 5k (with a lot of hills) I decided to push on and did the 2nd in 25.

I would like to break the 50 minute mark but is there any kind of strategy I should be using? Like I said I haven't done much training but would 5 mins hard and then 2 minutes slow get me a decent time or what kind of strategies do others use for 10ks?

Just go at it, decent time if there are a few hills, the people running and watching will usually spur you on. You never want to look as if your jogging round for the craic and that competitive edge will make you want to go faster. Pick a runner in front and try and pass him or at least (if he's quick) stay close to him.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 06, 2012, 10:53:51 AM
Have my big 10k on Saturday now. I had done 2 5k runs at the beginning of August but the knee was at me (I've had 2 cruciate operations in the last 3 years) so had to take a break for a couple of weeks. The physio has told me I shouldn't be running on the roads but the 10k is in memory of a lad from here and I said I would do it this time so I feel I have to. Anyway I did the course the other night and broke the hour mark.

I had only meant to toodle around it to get an idea of the course but after taking 32 mins for the first 5k (with a lot of hills) I decided to push on and did the 2nd in 25.

I would like to break the 50 minute mark but is there any kind of strategy I should be using? Like I said I haven't done much training but would 5 mins hard and then 2 minutes slow get me a decent time or what kind of strategies do others use for 10ks?

I'd not so too hard at the start, thats for sure. You can very easily blow out in the early stages if you set off too quick and will be nothing in the legs for the finish.

Best 10k I did was with a very steady start and maintaining a good pace round, for last 2/3km I had enough left in the tank to step it up a touch and then when you know the end is in sight, as Milltown says, you'll always find a push to finish strong.

You boke the 60mark, to break the 50min mark, you have to cut a minute off each km you are running. Its a big ask. I'd set out to enjoy and in a race with lots of other people you'll surprise yourself and do a better time than you expect. But just be careful not too sprint off early, you;ll get a great adreniline rush in last 3 km if you are passing people rather than been passed.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 06, 2012, 10:16:04 PM
As bingo says don't go off too hard. It's ok doing that in a 5k but in a 10k you will die a death. Try and keep pacing as even as you can. Not sure if fast slow would work- your breathing may be busted...

The more even you pave the better you'll enjoy it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on September 06, 2012, 11:16:08 PM
Have my big 10k on Saturday now. I had done 2 5k runs at the beginning of August but the knee was at me (I've had 2 cruciate operations in the last 3 years) so had to take a break for a couple of weeks. The physio has told me I shouldn't be running on the roads but the 10k is in memory of a lad from here and I said I would do it this time so I feel I have to. Anyway I did the course the other night and broke the hour mark.

I had only meant to toodle around it to get an idea of the course but after taking 32 mins for the first 5k (with a lot of hills) I decided to push on and did the 2nd in 25.

I would like to break the 50 minute mark but is there any kind of strategy I should be using? Like I said I haven't done much training but would 5 mins hard and then 2 minutes slow get me a decent time or what kind of strategies do others use for 10ks?

The best method, in my experience, is to keep in touch with your pace throughout i.e. make sure you don't leave yourself too much to do at the end.

You're basically looking at 8 minute miles all the way.

Compare that to what realistically is the best pace you can run a mile at. If say that's a 7 minute mile, then you can't really afford more than a couple of 8.30+ miles. Uphill, upwind miles will take longer, bear that in mind.

But to be honest, I think the only way you're going to get under 50 is sustained practice.

I started back running 8 weeks ago (treadmill only) after many moons away. Initially I was doing 26 mins for 5k and that hurt like hell. I took it up to 8k at a slower pace again, and then every session I took a few more seconds off my time. First 10k, about 3-4 weeks ago, was 48 and a bit; I was delighted as my target was 50. I've kept at 10k since and broke 44 today. I'll get to 43 soon. It's just practice and a fair dash of stubbornness really - though I know from my playing days I'm about to enter the timings that are about my natural limit.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 07, 2012, 06:16:12 PM
Wobbler if you stick at it you'd be very surprised with limits. That's the one thing I've noticed in the running - you don't know your limits and it's a good 3 or 4 years till you reach them.

Running races are one of the worst places in the world to be when you blow up so best to avoid if you can... Stubbornness will get you through it but it's not fun!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: eddie d on September 07, 2012, 07:14:30 PM
Have my big 10k on Saturday now. I had done 2 5k runs at the beginning of August but the knee was at me (I've had 2 cruciate operations in the last 3 years) so had to take a break for a couple of weeks. The physio has told me I shouldn't be running on the roads but the 10k is in memory of a lad from here and I said I would do it this time so I feel I have to. Anyway I did the course the other night and broke the hour mark.

I had only meant to toodle around it to get an idea of the course but after taking 32 mins for the first 5k (with a lot of hills) I decided to push on and did the 2nd in 25.

I would like to break the 50 minute mark but is there any kind of strategy I should be using? Like I said I haven't done much training but would 5 mins hard and then 2 minutes slow get me a decent time or what kind of strategies do others use for 10ks?

wanted to get to this run but cant, good luck with it, i hope you get a good crowd out for the cause
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on September 07, 2012, 09:06:32 PM
Wobbler if you stick at it you'd be very surprised with limits. That's the one thing I've noticed in the running - you don't know your limits and it's a good 3 or 4 years till you reach them.

Running races are one of the worst places in the world to be when you blow up so best to avoid if you can... Stubbornness will get you through it but it's not fun!

I'm not sure Tommy. Even when I was flying fit, I was the slowest player on just about any team I played for.

I was in the States when I was 21 and played soccer for my college. Part of the coach's training regime was you had to pass a basic fitness test of 1.5m in 10 mins, a 10 min break, then 1.5 miles in 9 mins. You did it every day until you passed.

Most of the team passed on day one, and the rest got there after a couple of weeks. At week 5 he gave me an exemption! I got the 10 okay, but couldn't get 9.

A few years later I did 9 on a running machine, after serious months of building up... and it took me about an hour to recover.

So I'd think that I'm distance running my absolute peak is about 6.15 a mile. I just don't got the basics to go any quicker!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on September 07, 2012, 11:51:57 PM
Missing the parkrun for the next few weeks as I'm away but really liking it. Started at 28 mins but got down to 26.15 by week 3.

I use Nike GPS app (not the one linked to your shoe) on iPhone as I listen to music while I run. Do my best times to Meatloaf - Dead Ringer For Love - who knew??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on September 08, 2012, 12:29:31 AM
Anyone doing interval running? I find it more enjoyable than standard straight running.

I tailor my own - 6mph-3mph-7mph-3mph-8mph-3mph-9mph-3mph-10mph-3mph (one minute each) x 3 (30 mins)

For the likes of 10k I found myself around 5-6 thinking I'm not enjoying this. The above doesn't allow those thoughts.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 08, 2012, 12:41:07 AM
Anyone doing interval running? I find it more enjoyable than standard straight running.

I tailor my own - 6mph-3mph-7mph-3mph-8mph-3mph-9mph-3mph-10mph-3mph (one minute each) x 3 (30 mins)

For the likes of 10k I found myself around 5-6 thinking I'm not enjoying this. The above doesn't allow those thoughts.
You're a f**king eejit.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: All of a Sludden on September 08, 2012, 12:42:08 AM
I've been running the same route on and off for just over three years, its just short of eight miles (7.98), seven of those being cross country. I'm not what you would call a natural runner, but have stuck at it. My initial aim was to get my time down to under an hour, which I did last year, but today I smashed my PB and did it in 56 mins dead.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on September 08, 2012, 12:46:19 AM
Anyone doing interval running? I find it more enjoyable than standard straight running.

I tailor my own - 6mph-3mph-7mph-3mph-8mph-3mph-9mph-3mph-10mph-3mph (one minute each) x 3 (30 mins)

For the likes of 10k I found myself around 5-6 thinking I'm not enjoying this. The above doesn't allow those thoughts.
You're a f**king eejit.

Try it listening to Brian Kennedy.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: All of a Sludden on September 08, 2012, 12:47:32 AM
Anyone doing interval running? I find it more enjoyable than standard straight running.

I tailor my own - 6mph-3mph-7mph-3mph-8mph-3mph-9mph-3mph-10mph-3mph (one minute each) x 3 (30 mins)

For the likes of 10k I found myself around 5-6 thinking I'm not enjoying this. The above doesn't allow those thoughts.
You're a f**king eejit.

Try it listening to Brian Kennedy.

He is on TV atm
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 08, 2012, 12:48:06 AM
Anyone doing interval running? I find it more enjoyable than standard straight running.

I tailor my own - 6mph-3mph-7mph-3mph-8mph-3mph-9mph-3mph-10mph-3mph (one minute each) x 3 (30 mins)

For the likes of 10k I found myself around 5-6 thinking I'm not enjoying this. The above doesn't allow those thoughts.
You're a f**king eejit.

Try it listening to Brian Kennedy.
Just seen the hoor on BBC 4.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 08, 2012, 09:48:06 AM
Anyone doing interval running? I find it more enjoyable than standard straight running.

I tailor my own - 6mph-3mph-7mph-3mph-8mph-3mph-9mph-3mph-10mph-3mph (one minute each) x 3 (30 mins)

For the likes of 10k I found myself around 5-6 thinking I'm not enjoying this. The above doesn't allow those thoughts.

Interval training is (for me anyways) far better than the normal running, I run on the treadmill for 21 minutes, 6mph for a minute then up it to 10 for a minute, carry that through for the 21 minutes. It's a fair old slog but I've noticed the benefits when running.

Played a few games at the club and the difference I've notice has been great, quicker to the ball, breathing better, concentration better.

Get out and try the 5k Park Run at the the Waterworks, great for that initial 'competitive' run, you'll find that you'll run a lot quicker
Title: Re: Running
Post by: eddie d on September 08, 2012, 10:00:15 AM
Anyone doing interval running? I find it more enjoyable than standard straight running.

I tailor my own - 6mph-3mph-7mph-3mph-8mph-3mph-9mph-3mph-10mph-3mph (one minute each) x 3 (30 mins)

For the likes of 10k I found myself around 5-6 thinking I'm not enjoying this. The above doesn't allow those thoughts.
You're a f**king eejit.

Try it listening to Brian Kennedy.

u must have Q106, dats all they play
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 08, 2012, 11:18:32 AM
Wobbler if you stick at it you'd be very surprised with limits. That's the one thing I've noticed in the running - you don't know your limits and it's a good 3 or 4 years till you reach them.

Running races are one of the worst places in the world to be when you blow up so best to avoid if you can... Stubbornness will get you through it but it's not fun!

I'm not sure Tommy. Even when I was flying fit, I was the slowest player on just about any team I played for.

I was in the States when I was 21 and played soccer for my college. Part of the coach's training regime was you had to pass a basic fitness test of 1.5m in 10 mins, a 10 min break, then 1.5 miles in 9 mins. You did it every day until you passed.

Most of the team passed on day one, and the rest got there after a couple of weeks. At week 5 he gave me an exemption! I got the 10 okay, but couldn't get 9.

A few years later I did 9 on a running machine, after serious months of building up... and it took me about an hour to recover.

So I'd think that I'm distance running my absolute peak is about 6.15 a mile. I just don't got the basics to go any quicker!

That's nearly a 38 10k though...

I help out a good bit with training new runners and the improvements are remarkable in some of them. Everyone has their limits but I'd say you've a bit to go. I'm about 6 minutes quicker than first 10k and hopefully have a few in me yet.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on September 09, 2012, 10:56:13 AM
Did the 10k yesterday and managed to get in under the 50 minute mark. 49.03 to be exact. Jesus it was brutal stuff at times there was a lot of heart and a headwind on the 2 big climbs. I had to stop 4 times but kept walking and only did it for 5 seconds then straight back at it.

Really happy to have done it but serious pain all day yesterday and today. One thing I liked was the sense of community around the whole thing although it was organized by a mental health group from our area so that maybe doesn't happen a lot. Can't see me doing one again any time soon but if these knees ever settle down I'd love to get into it a bit more seriously.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Oak Leafer on September 11, 2012, 01:51:42 PM
Took part in the same 10k Screenexile done at the weekend.....54min 1 sec.....delighted....3 months ago i couldn't run 5km!

Now...having got the taste...i want to improve.

I had been running every other day, doing 4/5miles.

Any advice on how i should approach things now?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 11, 2012, 02:42:49 PM
Took part in the same 10k Screenexile done at the weekend.....54min 1 sec.....delighted....3 months ago i couldn't run 5km!

Now...having got the taste...i want to improve.

I had been running every other day, doing 4/5miles.

Any advice on how i should approach things now?

You probably need to decide what your target is:

Marathon/Half Marathon
or stay at 10k and do faster times at that distance and/or shorter distances.

For either of these there is a whole range of options. If looking to go faster its a case of continuing to cover the distances but to add in some form of structure ie Interval running, Tempo running, hill running etc in which to build up speed, stamina.

Interval running is setting a distance say 400m and going hard for that distance, slowing right down again for same distance ot set time for recovery and then going hard again for the 400m. Repeat this as possible, abviously it has a warm up run and cool down run.

Tempo running would be doing a 10km run and building up speed to run at a required race pace eg 2km slow run to warm up, next km at 5min per km pace, next km at 4.30min per km, next km at 4min per km pace and then back up. Lots of variation on it.

Huge scope for training out there but setting a target is the first step.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Oak Leafer on September 11, 2012, 02:51:21 PM
Well with my knee's i think 10k is sufficient!  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 11, 2012, 03:18:41 PM
Step 1 would be increasing your distances. A long run a week is basically a must if you want to improve. If you're at 4 or 5 miles build it up say a mile a week (on your weekend run) until you get to 8 or 9 miles I would say for 10ks or further for longer.

After you get the long runs up a bit you want to look at tempo work. Tempo = for 10ks say 4 miles at a "comfortably hard" pace.

Other running should be easy then plug in hill reps after a month or two.

First of all you want to build fitness and next would be strength. Longer runs will do both of these. Try upping your distances keeping the pace at a level where you can do it without too much hassle for your fitness.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Oak Leafer on September 11, 2012, 05:00:02 PM
Many thanks for advice fella's!

Should I continue the 3/4 days a week, with a days recovery in between?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 13, 2012, 10:14:28 AM
If anyone gets the Indo on thursday for the Fit magazine, check out pages 14/15, they have included an article on the fitness and well being programme that we started in the club last year and has grown massively this year.

Great fundraiser for the club plus the benefits for the participants who are getting great value has been huge. Serious interest and buzz about it this year, kicked off on Tuesday night of this week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneman on September 19, 2012, 06:50:56 PM
What's the normal healing time for a calf strain? Did a half mara on sat and it wassore , I had discomfort after a few miles running last night and stopped but it's not really that bad walking today

  I was due to do along run this weekend as part of marathon training but should I give it a miss?

Def not torn (been there before)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 20, 2012, 09:18:42 AM
What's the normal healing time for a calf strain? Did a half mara on sat and it wassore , I had discomfort after a few miles running last night and stopped but it's not really that bad walking today

  I was due to do along run this weekend as part of marathon training but should I give it a miss?

Def not torn (been there before)
If its sore when you hop on the affected side i'd give it a miss. If not, you should be ok with long sustained stretching (painfree) >30 seconds as much as you can throughout the course of the day, ice x 10 mins x 3.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 20, 2012, 10:35:48 AM
Lads I have been banging out a few miles on the treadmills recently and everytime I get to the 10 minute mark (first 5 minutes usually a light jog to warm up) my shins tighten up and give me hell.  Nearly impossible to get them loosened up and limits the time/distance I can do. 

Never really have this problem when road running.  Any tips?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on September 20, 2012, 10:40:48 AM
That sounds bizarre North Antrim. Usually shin splints would be the other way around. If you're running on a very small incline on the treadmill, it might be that your natural gait causes the problem on flat surfaces *; you don't notice it so much on the road because of incline changes. Have you tried a steeper incline on the treadmill?

* disclaimer, I don't understand matters of science or biology
Title: Re: Running
Post by: north aontroim gael on September 20, 2012, 10:50:39 AM
I thought that the slight incline may have been the reason for it so was wary of increasing it.  Will maybe ramp it up a bit the next time I go to the gym to see if it makes any difference. Cheers
Title: Re: Running
Post by: cadence on September 20, 2012, 06:40:04 PM
I thought that the slight incline may have been the reason for it so was wary of increasing it.  Will maybe ramp it up a bit the next time I go to the gym to see if it makes any difference. Cheers

the incline will be a problem as it will tighten the distance between your toes and your shins when you run. it doesn't seem like much, but running up and down hills takes time to get right. you should look at your biomechanics. try having a slight lean forward when you run, use your core muscles to balance you, keep your stride shorter and quicker going uphill, lenghten it going down, use minimal knee lift, and make sure your foot strike is bang on the middle of your foot... that should sort it. but i wouldn't do all my running uphill/at an incline if i were you... you're going to end up putting too much strain on your shin muscles i'd have thought? a more varied terrain is better as it gives the legs a better work out.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 24, 2012, 11:03:17 AM
Marathon training well ramped up at this stage.

Did the big run on Saturday, 21 miles in 2hr 55m, better time than I expected and manged to keep a very steady pace throughout.

Base of the left foot hasn't been the best since mind. Was great to get it done and, bar the foot, the legs feel fresh since.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2012, 11:47:16 AM
Marathon training well ramped up at this stage.

Did the big run on Saturday, 21 miles in 2hr 55m, better time than I expected and manged to keep a very steady pace throughout.

Base of the left foot hasn't been the best since mind. Was great to get it done and, bar the foot, the legs feel fresh since.

Do you think come race day you'll manage to complete it under 3hrs?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 24, 2012, 11:57:01 AM
Marathon training well ramped up at this stage.

Did the big run on Saturday, 21 miles in 2hr 55m, better time than I expected and manged to keep a very steady pace throughout.

Base of the left foot hasn't been the best since mind. Was great to get it done and, bar the foot, the legs feel fresh since.

Do you think come race day you'll manage to complete it under 3hrs?

No, not a chance. Its my first marathon and that distance was new terrority for me.

When I set out, i had no time, then I said I'd look to break 4hrs as an achieveable target. Now the lad who has been giving me pointers and has run them, says that I could target 3.30 but 3.45 is a relaistic target.

Who knows, another 5 miles seemed a long way to go when I finished saturday. Just planning to keep to my plan/pace and see what i have to finish with.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2012, 12:01:48 PM
Bingo the pacers are generally very good. I'd say a good bet would be to go out with them (either 3:30 or 3:45) and try and stick to them. I'd say 3:30 could be within your grasp given 2:55 for a 21 miler.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 24, 2012, 12:15:18 PM
Bingo the pacers are generally very good. I'd say a good bet would be to go out with them (either 3:30 or 3:45) and try and stick to them. I'd say 3:30 could be within your grasp given 2:55 for a 21 miler.

Yeah, thats definately a consideration. Is it best to go with faster ones and hope to stay with them or slower pacers and try and have something to finish with, I'd be of cautious thinking and would think 3.45 and finish stronger would work for me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 24, 2012, 01:32:36 PM
Bingo the pacers are generally very good. I'd say a good bet would be to go out with them (either 3:30 or 3:45) and try and stick to them. I'd say 3:30 could be within your grasp given 2:55 for a 21 miler.

Yeah, thats definately a consideration. Is it best to go with faster ones and hope to stay with them or slower pacers and try and have something to finish with, I'd be of cautious thinking and would think 3.45 and finish stronger would work for me.

Ya, I'd go with that plan Bingo, race starts at 22 miles and its psychologically tough if you were to get dropped by 3.30 group then. I got dropped by the 3 group at 15 miles and then the 3.15 group at 22 miles last year...ouch, finished in 3.22 then.

Hope to give 3 a right shot this year to be honest, feel I'm much better prepared than last year. I've done  four 21 milers and five 18's already, did a 10km race last sunday and finished up in 35.40 .

Going to go out now to flush the drink and clear the head after yesterday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2012, 02:01:28 PM
I would say that's a plan Bingo. Haven't done a marathon but it's what I would do myself if or when I did one.

BM that's a good time for a 10k. I ran about that 2 weeks ago then picked up a hamstring niggle :-\ Back at it now though. The leg speed shouldn't be a limiting factor and you should be set-up alright assuming you're tempoing and long running alright. Do you do marathon pace sessions much?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on September 24, 2012, 02:02:16 PM

Ya, I'd go with that plan Bingo, race starts at 22 miles and its psychologically tough if you were to get dropped by 3.30 group then. I got dropped by the 3 group at 15 miles and then the 3.15 group at 22 miles last year...ouch, finished in 3.22 then.

Hope to give 3 a right shot this year to be honest, feel I'm much better prepared than last year. I've done  four 21 milers and five 18's already, did a 10km race last sunday and finished up in 35.40 .

Going to go out now to flush the drink and clear the head after yesterday.

Thats my way of thinking on it at this stage and in the Newry half I kept a steady pace with a view to finishing stronger and it worked well. Was following your advice on that day on same basis that the race only starts at 9 miles or something along those lines.

You've alot of miles on the clock, so hopefully you hit the mark, savage running in fairness.

Hard luck yesterday but I'm sure you fed up hearing that!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 24, 2012, 03:00:23 PM
imt...Yep, have been doing the end of the long runs at marathon pace. Did the last 4 on Saturday morning at 6.45 pace and the 17 miles before it at 7.20 pace.
The 10km race was a strange one, been a good few months since I did a race and didn't know how i was going to go, felt grand at the end and put the shoe down for the last 1km in 3.07. Ran out to bull island there along by Clontarf, good to clear the head, absolutely devastated about yesterday, think I'll be doing some amount of running this week :-\

Good stuff bingo, you've made serious improvements in the last year, times are flying down for ya.
Hope to stay with the 3hr group until 21 miles and i'll see how i feel, will either push on for 2.57/58, if not going great, just hang on to them for 3hrs! Definitely done with the marathon if I get under the 3, 10km training much more enjoyable and less time consuming!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on September 24, 2012, 04:16:47 PM
If you'd a 3:07 left in you in the last k BM then you mustn't have been pushing yourself hard enough the rest of it!!

Sounds like both you boys have most of the work done anyway. If you've the work done you'll do alright.

Running can be pretty therapeutic BM so should help rightly.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on September 25, 2012, 10:12:15 AM
Aye, felt grand all the way through, probably should have taken a few more seconds off the time but it was a fairly tactical race, managed to get 3rd with the final push. Ya, need all the relaxing I can get. Still mad as hell to be honest!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 02, 2012, 01:56:59 PM
Any interest lads? Looks mad...imagine the quads burn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z94NVESBto0&feature=player_embedded

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 02, 2012, 02:02:35 PM
Any interest lads? Looks mad...imagine the quads burn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z94NVESBto0&feature=player_embedded

Crazy stuff, the hill itself looks tough, never mind getting up the ski jump after that.

I love a bit of hill running but that just seems a touch out of my range yet!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 02, 2012, 02:08:08 PM
Any interest lads? Looks mad...imagine the quads burn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z94NVESBto0&feature=player_embedded

Crazy stuff, the hill itself looks tough, never mind getting up the ski jump after that.

I love a bit of hill running but that just seems a touch out of my range yet!
Yep, the ski jump would be the right kicker after it levels out...the training for it would be hilarious.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 02, 2012, 02:12:42 PM
Any interest lads? Looks mad...imagine the quads burn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z94NVESBto0&feature=player_embedded

Crazy stuff, the hill itself looks tough, never mind getting up the ski jump after that.

I love a bit of hill running but that just seems a touch out of my range yet!
Yep, the ski jump would be the right kicker after it levels out...the training for it would be hilarious.

I trying to think of somewhere to train and the only place I can think of is trying to run up the side of the house!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 02, 2012, 02:15:51 PM
Any interest lads? Looks mad...imagine the quads burn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z94NVESBto0&feature=player_embedded

Crazy stuff, the hill itself looks tough, never mind getting up the ski jump after that.

I love a bit of hill running but that just seems a touch out of my range yet!
Yep, the ski jump would be the right kicker after it levels out...the training for it would be hilarious.

I trying to think of somewhere to train and the only place I can think of is trying to run up the side of the house!
;D
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Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 02, 2012, 02:17:21 PM
Gladiator.....READY

Ballinaman......READY

3...2.....1.................
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 02, 2012, 02:19:43 PM
Gladiator.....READY

Ballinaman......READY

3...2.....1.................
John Anderson would start the marathon if i had my way......
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 02, 2012, 02:28:00 PM
Gladiator.....READY

Ballinaman......READY

3...2.....1.................
John Anderson would start the marathon if i had my way......

If i had my way, he'd finish it as well....for me!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2012, 04:10:07 PM
Lads any decent 10k races coming up?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: qwerty123 on October 02, 2012, 04:16:45 PM
On the issue of Ryan Bradley, the Sunday Indo said that Jim Mc Guinness expects all his players to be able to run 12km in a certain time.  Any ideas on what that would be for an inter county player?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 02, 2012, 05:13:56 PM
sub 48mins I'd guess....

Runireland has a good calender of races. One in clondalkin in a couple of weeks time i may do. Hollymount in south Mayo in mid November is a class 10km race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 02, 2012, 05:24:07 PM
Hell and Back this Sunday in Bray, its a 10km. Great event and more than just a run or race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on October 02, 2012, 06:34:38 PM
Belfast Telegraph RunHer 10k around Stormont on Sunday...but sorry, lads aren't invited!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2012, 08:42:57 PM
Belfast Telegraph RunHer 10k around Stormont on Sunday...but sorry, lads aren't invited!

Thats fine, I'll send her indoors ;D

Sexist race that RunHer thingny
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 02, 2012, 11:16:23 PM
Mr you're a week late as one of the biggest over in Bangor last weekend.

Check Http://www.niathletics.org (http://Http://www.niathletics.org)

Next big one November but a few smaller ones in there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Asal Mor on October 03, 2012, 03:59:25 PM
Anyone have any tips on motivating yourself to do more? I run a bit and do a fair bit of sports training but I'd love to do more. I go into couch potato mode sometimes and can't be bothered. So I'm looking for some ideas on how to motivate myself when I'm not in the mood.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 03, 2012, 04:27:49 PM
Anyone have any tips on motivating yourself to do more? I run a bit and do a fair bit of sports training but I'd love to do more. I go into couch potato mode sometimes and can't be bothered. So I'm looking for some ideas on how to motivate myself when I'm not in the mood.
Start entering races, local fun runs. Runireland.com has a good calender of events coming up. Pick a race and do your best, next time you'll want to beat the previous time and it'll get out on the training run's when otherwise you wouldn't be that bothered. Always good to set yourself goals and targets, no matter what you do.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Asal Mor on October 04, 2012, 08:39:39 AM
Cheers ballinaman. I'll give it a try. I should be motivated by the thought of making a show of myself to get out and do a bit of training.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 04, 2012, 09:48:28 AM
Any one in the dublin or surrounding area interested in doing Hell N Bank 10km in bray this sunday?

http://www.hellandback.ie/ (http://www.hellandback.ie/)

I have a slot available, entered a team way back and one of the lads has had to drop out. Its €45 to do it now but this spot is available for €25 which includes the chipped race and a finishers T-shirt which is very good quality.

Its a really good event and challenge, well worth doing and very doable, despite what they claim.

Give me a shout if anyone interested.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: qwerty123 on October 04, 2012, 11:39:23 AM
Anyone any ideas of where to get information on mud runs?  I've been searching but I can't find much about them, particularly around Derry/Tyrone.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on October 07, 2012, 06:41:51 PM
Belfast Telegraph RunHer 10k around Stormont on Sunday...but sorry, lads aren't invited!

Thats fine, I'll send her indoors ;D

Sexist race that RunHer thingny

Well that's the last time I do a female-only run on that course - about 2/3 of the course was on a trail that was 2 people wide and I got stuck near the back. Most of the women in front were too busy chatting to consider others behind them trying to get past. Ended up really annoyed for a lot of it and for the first time ever, didn't even have that satisfaction feeling after I finished that I usually have. Going up the hill to Stormont (twice) was very tough.

There's a "run in the dark" 10k in aid of an Irish guy on a Wed in middle of Nov (14/17/ something like that). It's in Belfast, Dub, Cork and a few other places. Belfast run is at Stormont.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 07, 2012, 07:13:52 PM
Belfast Telegraph RunHer 10k around Stormont on Sunday...but sorry, lads aren't invited!

Thats fine, I'll send her indoors ;D

Sexist race that RunHer thingny

Well that's the last time I do a female-only run on that course - about 2/3 of the course was on a trail that was 2 people wide and I got stuck near the back. Most of the women in front were too busy chatting to consider others behind them trying to get past. Ended up really annoyed for a lot of it and for the first time ever, didn't even have that satisfaction feeling after I finished that I usually have. Going up the hill to Stormont (twice) was very tough.

There's a "run in the dark" 10k in aid of an Irish guy on a Wed in middle of Nov (14/17/ something like that). It's in Belfast, Dub, Cork and a few other places. Belfast run is at Stormont.

That would be annoying as fook.  Need a wee bell to get past people
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on October 07, 2012, 07:19:27 PM
I was thinking I could run with a pugel stick.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 08, 2012, 11:05:10 AM
Wrecked after the weekends extersions.

16mile run Saturday morning and then the 10km Hellandback in Bray yesterday.

It was tough going. Preparation of the 16miles and a night out in Dublin wasn't ideal but soldiered round it, finishing in 1hr 11mins and 109th home out of 1400 or so.

Its a good event but once doing it is enough! Didn't push too hard yesterday and just wanted to get round in one piece. Was absolutely caked in mud and dirt after it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2012, 12:48:56 PM
Wrecked after the weekends extersions.

16mile run Saturday morning and then the 10km Hellandback in Bray yesterday.

It was tough going. Preparation of the 16miles and a night out in Dublin wasn't ideal but soldiered round it, finishing in 1hr 11mins and 109th home out of 1400 or so.

Its a good event but once doing it is enough! Didn't push too hard yesterday and just wanted to get round in one piece. Was absolutely caked in mud and dirt after it.

Aye the drink will do ya in!!

Anyone doing the Dundrum 8 mile run? Thinking of entering it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 12, 2012, 10:14:41 AM
2 weeks Monday to the Marathon and I say thank god.

Looking forward to actually doing it but pushing myself to get the training going is a tough. I don't mind the actually running itself but getting increasingly tough to fit it in. Between one thing and another it was 10.15 last night when I got to do 5 miles.

Roll on the 29th.

On another note, wee plug for our own 5km race on the 2nd December. Was a great race last year and very well supported. Hopefully the same this year. Details below.

http://www.runireland.com/events/super-valu-castleblayney-5km-road-race (http://www.runireland.com/events/super-valu-castleblayney-5km-road-race)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 12, 2012, 10:33:15 AM
2 weeks Monday to the Marathon and I say thank god.

Looking forward to actually doing it but pushing myself to get the training going is a tough. I don't mind the actually running itself but getting increasingly tough to fit it in. Between one thing and another it was 10.15 last night when I got to do 5 miles.

Roll on the 29th.

On another note, wee plug for our own 5km race on the 2nd December. Was a great race last year and very well supported. Hopefully the same this year. Details below.

http://www.runireland.com/events/super-valu-castleblayney-5km-road-race (http://www.runireland.com/events/super-valu-castleblayney-5km-road-race)
Amen to that. Had to run at 6am this morning because I'm hitting straight from work to the Ireland game.

Last long of 18 on Sunday, the last 8 at target marathon pace of 6.45 and then the taper begins. I find the taper difficult, hard to balance it right.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 12, 2012, 10:50:32 AM
2 weeks Monday to the Marathon and I say thank god.

Looking forward to actually doing it but pushing myself to get the training going is a tough. I don't mind the actually running itself but getting increasingly tough to fit it in. Between one thing and another it was 10.15 last night when I got to do 5 miles.

Roll on the 29th.

On another note, wee plug for our own 5km race on the 2nd December. Was a great race last year and very well supported. Hopefully the same this year. Details below.

http://www.runireland.com/events/super-valu-castleblayney-5km-road-race (http://www.runireland.com/events/super-valu-castleblayney-5km-road-race)
Amen to that. Had to run at 6am this morning because I'm hitting straight from work to the Ireland game.

Last long of 18 on Sunday, the last 8 at target marathon pace of 6.45 and then the taper begins. I find the taper difficult, hard to balance it right.

I was planning on running this evening and missing the game but with Robbie Keane out, i'm more optimistic now  ;)

I'm just looking at a 12 mile run this weekend at my pace. Then the taper, thats what the programme I've been following has suggested, so i'll stick to it.

My buddy would say the taper is strange and it feels like you not doing enough. He told me to focus on eating well and hydrating well.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 12, 2012, 11:03:46 AM
I know...optimistic myself but 16/1 4-0 Germany looks appealing all the same!

Ya, stick to your program anyways, wrong time to go changing things now. I got a little anxious last year on the Taper because it's odd when you are used to doing more mileage. I'm going to throw in the odd speed session to sharpen up too. I did 10x2 mins hard..1 min easy yesterday in the middle of an 8 mile.

Think i'll do two sessions of 10x1 on 1 off for the next 2 weeks instead.

Yep, pints tonight and that'll be it until the 29th.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 12, 2012, 11:19:13 AM
The time you are looking at is serious in fairness, I'd do a odd bit of increasing the pace and as I near the pace you'd be looking at, i'd struggle to keep that going for any prolonged distance. I'll be quite happy with the 3.45 pacers and hanging in there.

Enjoy the game and the pints!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denn Forever on October 12, 2012, 05:03:11 PM
Just looking for some guidance here.

Addidas are narrow fitting and Puma are wide fitting.  What other brands have wide fitting shoes/runners? 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 13, 2012, 08:49:53 PM
You'd be as well hitting a specialist sports shop and they'd fit and guide you, where u based ?

Give the run a break today, went for a hike up slieve donard instead! Glorious day on the mountain, fantastic at the top and we'd a big group with us and took some effort to get some of them to top.

Was a duathlon going up it is as well, some serious running going on up it! And down it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 19, 2012, 01:03:42 PM
Just over a week to go till Dublin, out of my hands really at this stage. Just keeping a few easy miles on the clock and keeping the right food and drinks in. Plus importantly trying to avoid people with colds and flu's which is next on impossible!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 19, 2012, 01:24:02 PM
Same here. I'm not going to change my eating pattern at all to be honest, might slightly increase carbs next weekend but nothing crazy. Banana and a berocca on the morning of it and that'll be me.

Heard the tshirts are supposed to be slick black long sleeved ones, much better than the puke green of last year anyways. When are you getting your number bingo, Sat or Sunday?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 19, 2012, 02:27:37 PM
Same here. I'm not going to change my eating pattern at all to be honest, might slightly increase carbs next weekend but nothing crazy. Banana and a berocca on the morning of it and that'll be me.

Heard the tshirts are supposed to be slick black long sleeved ones, much better than the puke green of last year anyways. When are you getting your number bingo, Sat or Sunday?

I'd be along those lines alright, not going to try anything off the norm food wise and eat sensibly ie no supermacs. Will have the Indian take away as usual this Saturday night. Light breakfast on the morning of it - cereal, tea, toast and banana.

T-shirts sound the job. I'm guessing now that they don't have a main sponsor to keep happy that they have more leeway on the colour scheme.

I'm not 100% sure. Our senior team have a legaue semi final this sunday, win it (be outsiders) and final is on the following sunday, so will want to stay for it, so will take a spin up Saturday to the Expo. Lose this sunday and I'll head up Sunday to collect all, we are staying in a hotel in the city next Sunday to be fresh and ready on Monday morning. Plus we get to use their swimming pool, plunge pool and jacuzzi after the race  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 22, 2012, 12:01:16 PM
Will be in some serious pain this time next Monday.... :-\...hopefully not too much though. How did yer match go Bingo? Just can't wait to get going now, solid training since coming pack from Poland in June , a long time to wait. Have had the meltdown experience of last years marathon hanging over me all year so hopefully i can make up for it now.
Bit of advice regarding the race itself that I wasn't prepared for last year is the noise throughout the course.
Long runs in training and generally quite solitary time on your feet, be prepared for a wall of noise at some sections of the course, Walkinstown roundabout, Teranure, Milltown, Roebuck hill, RDS are a few big ones. It's a completely different atmosphere than the training runs or even 5k, 10k races that are around. Don't get caught up in it and loose track of the race plan, can easily happen.

Plan for the week. Did an 11 tempo yesterday around the Phoenix park, lovely day for it.
Monday - Rest
Tuesday - Easy 7
Wednesday - 7 miles marathon pace 6.45, 2 miles in the middle at 5.55 pace. 30 mins Physio.
Thursday- Easy 5
Friday - Easy 4
Saturday - Rest/Physio
Sunday - Rest
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 22, 2012, 12:22:33 PM
Well lad, this time next week you'll be feet up on the right side of the finishing line and I will likely be on the other side somewhere cursing the day I started running  ;D

Match was lost yesterday, 3 points, lost it in crazy first half - two pen's converted to goals and a man sent off. So will be heading up sunday to the RDS.

Cheers for the pointers, a few have told me that, run my own race and watch the pace. Be easy to get caught up in ocassion and feel the buzz of the crowd, adrenilen kicks in, you feel great and go outside your pace and suffer later for it.

One question is that some say a very light warm is needed, bit of stretching and light jog. The first few miles serve as a good warm up as pace can be slow with heavy traffic? This be right down at my level? You speed demons may have a more rigourous warm up.

I've 8 miles to do this evening and then very little after that 4/3 miles and more resting than anything.

One of the lads that I'm running with is done Amsterdam yesterday and is doing Dublin next week.

Roll on the weekend, busy with work all week so that should help!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 22, 2012, 12:39:30 PM
Disaster. Commiserations.

I think I might head across on Sunday too, get me out of the house instead not using up nervous energy!

Yep, pace is seriously slow. I was up the top last year with the 3hr group and didn't get a clear run until Phibsboro church which is around 3 miles in, i'm expecting the same this year again. It could be until the Phoenix park at 4 miles before you get a bit of free space.

Warm up before will be minimal because traffic will be that slow. I'll get up about 6am, stretch and foam roll and breakfast then at 6.30am.

Hope to be near the start line at 8.20ish to get a decent spot like last year, so thats 40 mins basically standing and stretching on the spot. I was there at 8am last year and it was too early but need to be there a bit early to get a good position. It'll be jammed from 25 mins until the gun so bring an old t-shirt and a bottle of water to sip on...even saw lads taking a slash into the empty water bottle and then just leaving it on the ground last year it was so crowded ;D I'd never do something like that though... :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 22, 2012, 12:47:35 PM
Be interesting to have a look round the Expo, be the first I've been at. Been told it will be impressive but when you head to the likes of London and Berlin it pales in comparison. After that some of the more regulars guys have a restaurant that they always head to, so we'll be heading there before hitting the hotel for an early night.

I'll blend in the pace at the start and not try to find space and just waste energy.

I'll bear that in mind when we get to the start and work in to get some sort of decent spec.

I'd say not! Reminds me of the start of the samsung 10km in dublin this year, you'll remember the dirty night it was, the lad i was running with told me to look down as we stood waiting to the start and lets just say there was alot more rain running down his leg than was coming out of the sky!


Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on October 22, 2012, 02:01:00 PM
Best of luck with t lads, only getting into doing a bit myself, hoping it gets easier as I go along. This is my 3/4 attempt to get going over the last couple of years, always setback by doing too much too soon and then having injuries crop up that seem to take a few weeks to heal and by then motivation or interest has waned, this time will be different  :)

I've been reading some of your dialogue, sounds like you both have put the work in so hopefully everything goes to plan and you get you rewards!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 25, 2012, 03:02:09 PM
Cheers Midlouth.

I'd say i'll be a combination of all these lads crossing the line on Monday ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nGojEyYBmwc
Title: Re: Running
Post by: AQMP on October 25, 2012, 03:17:33 PM
For anyone in the Fermanagh area there's a 5k in Enniskillen town centre tomorrow night.

http://enniskillenrc.blogspot.co.uk/

Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 25, 2012, 10:34:36 PM

f**k it. Doin my first marathon on Monday.

Not looking for advice or anything - not fast enough for that. Just shittin it, that s all. The training has been great but .......
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 26, 2012, 10:40:36 AM

f**k it. Doin my first marathon on Monday.

Not looking for advice or anything - not fast enough for that. Just shittin it, that s all. The training has been great but .......

Fair play, you've been sitting on that one.

If the training has been great, you'll be fine or so I've been told several dozen times at this stage. Not be long now.

Cheers midlouth.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 26, 2012, 11:35:26 AM
Good luck to all you guys on Monday. I hope you meet your goals and/or get round in one piece - whatever it comes down to!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on October 26, 2012, 12:36:10 PM
I'll second that - good luck - don't think I'll EVER be able for a marathon so am full of respect for those that are, especially if you never thought you'd be able to do it. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 28, 2012, 04:40:21 PM
Just at RDS and all signed in for tomorrow.

No turning back now!

Best of luck to ballinaman, hope u break the 3hrs and to moysider as well.

This time tomorrow we'll be laughing  :(  ;D
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 28, 2012, 06:13:23 PM
Good luck bingo and moysider, its some experience. You'll enjoy it no matter what.
No going back now is right. 5 months training 6 days a week and it comes down to 1 day. No place to hide tomorrow , time for myself to deliver.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 28, 2012, 08:34:50 PM
Moysider, I'll keep an eye out for u tomorrow, my first too.

Did my first 10k ever last weekend in 45.27, (I know, I know, a week before the marathon), apparently that means 3.45 for tomorrow but would be delighted with sub 4.

Best of luck to everyone
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 29, 2012, 03:21:59 PM

Thrilled to bits.

One of the toughest and rewarding things I ve ever done. Highly recommend it. Wish I did this years ago.



Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 29, 2012, 04:04:32 PM
Congrats Moysider, brilliant run.

Tough to find the words to express how happy I am now, ridiculously satisfying. Will give a better race support later.

Fist pumping to the crowd for the last mile when I knew it was in the bag.

2.56

Lifelong goal obtained.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on October 29, 2012, 04:50:58 PM
Well done Ballinaman - great achievement.

Hope to do one myself someday but will stick to the shorter stuff for a while.

Boy from Belfast Irish marathon champ - first time in a while.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 29, 2012, 06:28:50 PM
Well done ballinaman, delighted for you. And fair play moysider.

I came home in 3.40.15. Delighted with that, was going great guns but miles 21-24 was as tough as I've ever been, thought 3.45 was lost but dug deep to finish well inside it. I was barely able to walk after it! A hour in the pool sorted that out!

Some experience and great support round course.

I'll sleep tonight!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 29, 2012, 06:48:38 PM
Savage Bingo, delighted for ya. Meteoric rise out of you in fairness in the last couple of years. Congrats.
Race couldn't have went much better. Perfect conditions.
Decent start next to the 3 hour pacers. It was a large group, guts of 100 runners. Thought the pacers were excellent in fairness.

Water stops were mayhem for the 1st few so i decided to edge a little ahead of them around 10 miles. Glanced over the shoulder to make sure I wasn't going too far ahead of them.
Half way in 1.29.28. Feeling grand, passing the same spots where I was in agony last year having to stop to walk.

16 miles in I decided to start making moves away from the 3 hour group. At 20 I was feeling strong so decided push. Last 10km was my fastest of the race, 6.45 average down to 6.30.

It was like wading through a battle zone catching people slowing and walking over the last 6 miles. Fist clenched arm in the air coming down Nassau street, some feeling. Ran a negative split, 2nd half over 2 minutes faster.

Going to take a break from marathons for a good few years now, sub 3 has been done. Want to get 10k and 5k times down. Still in mid 20's so I've a bit of time to come back to the marathon.

Still buzzing, might even go for a jog tomorrow :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on October 30, 2012, 08:00:13 AM
Great Stuff Ballinaman thats fair going and some achievenment . Congrats to Bingo , Moysider(ya kept that 1 quite) and mayo4sam and to anyone else who completed the marathon. There were a lot of runners from ballina atheletic club completing there were hoping to do wellin the team competetion. You can now do the New york marathon Ballinaman  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 30, 2012, 10:24:08 AM
Great report Ballinaman, I can only imagine the buzz you had coming up Nassau street. The crowd was serious and even at that I could still pick out my name from a few people who were up supporting.

Weather was ideal, perfect in fact. I was in second wave and was starting near the 4hr pacers, quickly got ahead of them and by the phoenix park was at the 3.45 pacers and it was crowded so went ahead of them and was moving really great at this stage, had to hold myself at times from going to quick.

Support along the route was great and tried to give a few high 5's to kids and they were buzzing off it when you made the effort to reach out to them. Also met some random people on the sidelines from years back who'd I know and got great support from them.

Started to slow down round 19-20 but was ok, going up UCD flyover and i was starting to struggle, two had slowed down ahead and I hadn't the energy or will to move over to pass them, so walked for 5-10 secs and had a word with myself. Had to push on and said to just keep running, one foot ahead of the other. Crawled along for the next 3 miles, pace dropped but i was running, passing and been passed. Round 24 miles I found myself picking up speed again.

Running up westland row was like the Tour De France mountain stages, people out in road willing you on. One of our running group, man of many marathons who had finished his marathon with  a 2.49 time, spotted me and pushed through to run about 50 yards with me and willed me on. Was  brillant and he said he'd see me near the finish and sure enough he was there roaring me on again.

The run up Nassau st was long! But the end was in sight. I made it over the line and struggled through. I'm glad I didn't stop again, as once I stopped running the legs just stiffened and that was it. I was beat. Trying to tie my lace was an ordeal and took 5 attempts. Was a long slow walk back to the hotel.

The experienced runners out the 15 of us where all delighted when we arrived as they all hit their targets, 5 of them sub 3hrs with 3 of them sub 2.50.

The pool in the hotel was a saviour and we got talking to a lad orignally from Galway but living in France this 20 years. His second marathon and unlike Ballinaman he just missed sub 3hr, finished in 3.00.12.

Delighted to have done it. Would definately think I have more in me and will look to go sub 3.30 next time. Considering this time last year I was looking at 5kms and doing my first one in a few weeks time. Plenty of miles have passed since!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 30, 2012, 11:04:24 AM
Unbelievable stuff there Bingo. Fair play to ya, the hold you did in the Phoneix park was crucial. If you hadn't been wise there it could there could have been serious trouble in the last few miles. The crowd was brilliant, Kids doing the Mobot to us as we passed through Dolphins barn was the highlight for me. The crowds for the last 2 miles were unreal, its something that you don't get in 10Ks and 5ks

Had a good laugh at this sign near Kilmainham.
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3.30 is 100% one the cards for you the way things are going and with the quality in your training group.

Thanks Deel, really appreciate it. Ya,the club could be close to a 3rd place team finish. Two lads with 2.32s and then a 2.44. Fit4life had savage runs all round too. Would love to give Boston or New York a go someday but Dublin is fantastic too.

As ridiculous as it sounds, gonna to tip out for a 30min run now to get rid of the stiffness.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 30, 2012, 11:37:11 AM
Cheers Ballinaman. I've a bit of work to do but will look at a few 10kms and 5kms over coming months and some speed work. I've at least another stone to lose and alot of toning to do, particularly on core but if I can get that, I can go faster and longer.

Rather than thinking "thats in, i'm done", I'm looking forward to pushing on. On way home yesterday we where looking at the marathon calender and seeing where we can head to next year.

I actually remember seeing those signs yeaterday. A few others had "Run like you stole it" and another that made me smile (well at least grin) round the 23 mile mark was "why are you reading this, get a move on"

Fair play to you heading for a run, I'm at work and it took me a minute to walk to the bog after sitting for a hour!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Declan on October 30, 2012, 11:49:21 AM
Well done lads. Great achievements all round
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 30, 2012, 12:00:02 PM
Cheers Ballinaman. I've a bit of work to do but will look at a few 10kms and 5kms over coming months and some speed work. I've at least another stone to lose and alot of toning to do, particularly on core but if I can get that, I can go faster and longer.

Rather than thinking "thats in, i'm done", I'm looking forward to pushing on. On way home yesterday we where looking at the marathon calender and seeing where we can head to next year.

I actually remember seeing those signs yeaterday. A few others had "Run like you stole it" and another that made me smile (well at least grin) round the 23 mile mark was "why are you reading this, get a move on"

Fair play to you heading for a run, I'm at work and it took me a minute to walk to the bog after sitting for a hour!
Made sure to book today off, was a bit odd last year people coming into get Physio and there's me hobbling around the room. :D
Got some quare looks off people running down by the seafront in Clontarf there, people must have thought I stole the marathon tshirt from yesterday!
I'll take it easy for the next month, bit of 5 a side to keep sharp but I'll tip up to your 5K at the start of December all going well!

Thanks Declan.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on October 30, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
By the way, does your t-shirt fit? They a bit on the small side, i got a medium and body wise it fits, just about but the sleeves are short. My mate got a large and it the same.

If your down for the 5km let me know, should be a good race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 30, 2012, 01:26:30 PM
Ya, seemed ok this morning, I went for a large even though I'm medium in everything else. Got a large last year and the large was on the skimpy side of things then. I'm sure you could email them and ask for a swap.Ya, I'll spin up, only up the road sure.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on October 30, 2012, 04:15:50 PM
Delighted with yesterday, don't know how ur out for a run today Ballinaman.
Seen as I knew I didn't have enough long distance stuff done the plan was to go out strong to 20 miles and then just get home, round th 18 miles mark the times started slowing rapidly from 5:10/k out to 5:20,5:40 and 6, the 3:45 pacers passed me at mile 20 but got home in 3:52, delighted, aim was for sub four.
Met Tom Horkan afterwards, he is some man, 4:20, up from 4 hours last year, his 36th marathon, the man must be the far side of 75!
He reckoned there was 60/70 people from Ballina doing it

I'll be sticking to triathlons and 5k/10ks from now on though!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on October 30, 2012, 05:07:53 PM
Delighted with yesterday, don't know how ur out for a run today Ballinaman.
Seen as I knew I didn't have enough long distance stuff done the plan was to go out strong to 20 miles and then just get home, round th 18 miles mark the times started slowing rapidly from 5:10/k out to 5:20,5:40 and 6, the 3:45 pacers passed me at mile 20 but got home in 3:52, delighted, aim was for sub four.
Met Tom Horkan afterwards, he is some man, 4:20, up from 4 hours last year, his 36th marathon, the man must be the far side of 75!
He reckoned there was 60/70 people from Ballina doing it

I'll be sticking to triathlons and 5k/10ks from now on though!
That's unreal, fair fcuks to you considering your 1st 10k race was a week before the race! The triathlons obviously set you up well, class running it has to be said. Tom is a legend, don't know how he does it, an inspiration. I know of about 23 runners from Ballina and the surrounds who did it for definite but there could be more. We're giving Mayo AC serious trouble in team events now which is brilliant considering they've the whole county to gather runners from.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on October 31, 2012, 12:05:38 AM
Congrats Moysider, brilliant run.

Tough to find the words to express how happy I am now, ridiculously satisfying. Will give a better race support later.

Fist pumping to the crowd for the last mile when I knew it was in the bag.

2.56

Lifelong goal obtained.

Well done Ballinaman. Great stuff.

Well done to everybody that ran it and to all those that came out on the streets.



Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneman on November 01, 2012, 02:35:58 PM
Gutted - trained away for Dublin and got floored by calf injury. 

Don't want to waste all that training so aiming to do one early next year instead.

Has anyone tried the Tralee marathon?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 01, 2012, 09:31:12 PM
Went back training tonite on the track, 1,000m reps, tough going, sore and tired legs
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 01, 2012, 09:44:23 PM
I trained with a few tonight who ran monday mayo4sam... Youd'd be as well taking it easy for a bit.

Great running by all you guys.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 01, 2012, 10:13:36 PM
Don't worry I won't be busting myself for a while, pool in the morning and then back on the bike for November
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 02, 2012, 07:40:05 AM
Went back training tonite on the track, 1,000m reps, tough going, sore and tired legs
Fair play, I went to cross the road quickly yesterday in a burst.. Legs didn't react at all, think I better wait for the green man for another few days. Tissue around left ankle very sore still, only showed its face on tuesday though. Odd.
3 sessions next week to get back on the horse for castleblaney 5k!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 03, 2012, 03:26:52 PM
Did the Park run today, boy it was slippy in places. Was well turned out with 172 runners, lots of runners there had done the Dublin marathon and back out again!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 05, 2012, 04:15:43 PM
Had my first run yesterday since marathon, legs felt right.

Legs didn't feel so right after it! And was only 6km as well, although I did push a bit hard for the last 4kms or so. Massive difference in the LSR runs of the marathon and coming back down for the 5km pace.

Bit of work to do before the 2nd December, intervals and reps this week i think to try and get some pace back and breathing back. Plus cut out the junk food that was on the menu as treats since the marathon!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 05, 2012, 04:37:12 PM
You can say that again Bingo. Tried a few 400 repeats yesterday, only managed 5 because the hamstrings were screaming at me....hell a lot of work to be done. For the next few weeks going to look at maybe 3 sessions a week, 2 x speed, 1 by short tempo.

I see they have set up one of those park run events in Malahide castle grounds every Saturday morning, free timed 5K at 9.30am, starting this weekend.


What are they like Milltown? You doing them in Belfast? What sort of numbers turn up?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 05, 2012, 05:03:04 PM
BM there are now 7 parkruns in NI. I'd have helped out a good bit with the waterworks one for the first year. It gets ~130/140 people a week. A few of them have lower numbers mind you (sometimes < 50) but there are 4 in Belfast and with races etc some weekends numbers are a bit lower but there's a core crowd that go to any of them. Two have 100+ every week, one is <50 and one is about 60 or 70. The ones outside Belfast are pretty decently attended as well.

Great event - just turn up with the barcode and away you go.

It's hard to get going at that time of the morning mind you. Usually you get maybe a dozen quick(ish) guys in it so always good for a workout.

What date is that 5k? I wouldn't mind doing a 5k pre end of year but there's a few cross countries I need to make a show for so not sure if it fits.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 05, 2012, 05:14:11 PM
You can say that again Bingo. Tried a few 400 repeats yesterday, only managed 5 because the hamstrings were screaming at me....hell a lot of work to be done. For the next few weeks going to look at maybe 3 sessions a week, 2 x speed, 1 by short tempo.

I see they have set up one of those park run events in Malahide castle grounds every Saturday morning, free timed 5K at 9.30am, starting this weekend.


What are they like Milltown? You doing them in Belfast? What sort of numbers turn up?

I was told to take it very easy after the marathon but was thinking I was fine. Another lesson learned. I'll chance a run on Wednesday and if it goes well with work it into some tempe running with a speed session next if that goes well. Won't be forcing it for fear of damage.

The hardened lads up here are looking at tipping down to the Clonakility Marathon on 8th December, I was asked along but defo not going to push myself so soon. But we are looking at possibly Paris Marathon i April.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 05, 2012, 05:32:30 PM
BM there are now 7 parkruns in NI. I'd have helped out a good bit with the waterworks one for the first year. It gets ~130/140 people a week. A few of them have lower numbers mind you (sometimes < 50) but there are 4 in Belfast and with races etc some weekends numbers are a bit lower but there's a core crowd that go to any of them. Two have 100+ every week, one is <50 and one is about 60 or 70. The ones outside Belfast are pretty decently attended as well.

Great event - just turn up with the barcode and away you go.

It's hard to get going at that time of the morning mind you. Usually you get maybe a dozen quick(ish) guys in it so always good for a workout.

What date is that 5k? I wouldn't mind doing a 5k pre end of year but there's a few cross countries I need to make a show for so not sure if it fits.

Sounds good to me. I registered there and will bring the barcode with me, probably will be Saturday week though before I get over to it. Fair play for organising them, sounds like a great idea. Probably will take a few weeks to take off but I'm sure there is an appetite for them in Dublin.
5K in Castleblaney on 2nd December. Fast and well organised course by all counts, bingo is your man for further details.

Jaysus, thats some going. I watched that movie about the lads running in the Sahara the last day, don't know how the Ultra lads do it one day after another.,Paris is supposed to be great, bit more attractive than Rotterdam which is around the same time as far as I know. Ya, legs were shot yesterday, felt grand jogging but as soon as put the foot down felt them big time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 05, 2012, 06:02:46 PM
Them waterworks runs and now the Dublin ones are great ideas. In the run up to the 5km run we are having, we have the Operation  Tranfaughmation programme to get people out and more active - weekly circuit classes, another weekly class (Pilates, boxercise, bootcamp etc) and then sunday morning is running groups. On a dirty wet, cold morning yesterday we had over 80 there. Fierce appetite for it at the minute.

Those guys would have serious miles in the legs and they say they body adjusts and expects that to be maintained. If you ever read Gerry Duffys book on the 32 marathons, he says his quickest marathon was on the second last day, 3hrs 17 or something. Totally conditioned to it. I'd be a long way off!

Rotterdam is a lovely fast course according to one of the guys who done it this year but doesn't have the same atmosphere of the big city or the nice host city ambience. I'll follow the crowd at this stage anyway.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 05, 2012, 06:09:44 PM
Your body would harden to the marathon. There was a boy up here ran 2:42 in snowdonia marathon on the sarurday and ran 2:40 something (2:46 or something like that) on the Monday in Dublin.

There's boys pace 3 hours too and it takes nothing from them. It's basically that you harden to miles over the years.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on November 05, 2012, 09:21:29 PM
Loving the Parkrun, as is my bf and bro in law. I am now doing sub-25 and started off at 28.30.

Of couse I bring the boy with me on wk 2 and he breaks 19...

It'll soon be time for me to volunteer.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on November 05, 2012, 09:57:18 PM
Loving the Parkrun, as is my bf and bro in law. I am now doing sub-25 and started off at 28.30.

Of couse I bring the boy with me on wk 2 and he breaks 19...

It'll soon be time for me to volunteer.

I'm expecting to be back at the Parkrun once the snow and ice kicks in and the golf course is closed. Sub 25 is where I left off, but I expect to be 28+ when I return  :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 07, 2012, 04:36:13 PM
Ankle hasn't been right since the day after the marathon, sore along the inside with any sort of calf stretch. Tested it out twice and I think I've got to face that its a bit more serious than a bit of an ache post marathon.
Had a proper look at it myself and looks like it posterior tibial tendonitis. Balls. Nasty lil f*cker to clear up.
Going to complete rest for 2 weeks and get stuck into treatment for it. Will see how it goes. Might be ok for Castleblaney 5k hopefully.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 07, 2012, 04:45:17 PM
Ankle hasn't been right since the day after the marathon, sore along the inside with any sort of calf stretch. Tested it out twice and I think I've got to face that its a bit more serious than a bit of an ache post marathon.
Had a proper look at it myself and looks like it posterior tibial tendonitis. Balls. Nasty lil f*cker to clear up.
Going to complete rest for 2 weeks and get stuck into treatment for it. Will see how it goes. Might be ok for Castleblaney 5k hopefully.

That sounds nasty (No idea what it is!!), you're in good hands anyway  :) Hope it wasn't the run the day after the marathon that done it.

I went to a circuits class last night, was a tight one, lot of Lunges, dips, squats and press-ups etc but actually feel better for it today, apart from tight groins, feel more loosened out any other time since the marathon. Pilates Friday night and then some reps at weekend.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 07, 2012, 04:54:23 PM
Ankle hasn't been right since the day after the marathon, sore along the inside with any sort of calf stretch. Tested it out twice and I think I've got to face that its a bit more serious than a bit of an ache post marathon.
Had a proper look at it myself and looks like it posterior tibial tendonitis. Balls. Nasty lil f*cker to clear up.
Going to complete rest for 2 weeks and get stuck into treatment for it. Will see how it goes. Might be ok for Castleblaney 5k hopefully.

That sounds nasty (No idea what it is!!), you're in good hands anyway  :) Hope it wasn't the run the day after the marathon that done it.

I went to a circuits class last night, was a tight one, lot of Lunges, dips, squats and press-ups etc but actually feel better for it today, apart from tight groins, feel more loosened out any other time since the marathon. Pilates Friday night and then some reps at weekend.
Don't think it was, say it was towards the latter stages of the race when i put the foot down. F*ck it sure, better to happen then than a week before. Ha, true...better listen to my own advice now! It's a common enough problem with distance running, small muscle that controls movement of foot on foot strike that get overworked and tight, tendonitis is the release valve of that pressure then!
Good stuff, the cross training is the job. Thats all I'll be doing and a bit of TRX too. Pain in the arse but shit happens!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 07, 2012, 08:20:03 PM
BM there are now 7 parkruns in NI. I'd have helped out a good bit with the waterworks one for the first year. It gets ~130/140 people a week. A few of them have lower numbers mind you (sometimes < 50) but there are 4 in Belfast and with races etc some weekends numbers are a bit lower but there's a core crowd that go to any of them. Two have 100+ every week, one is <50 and one is about 60 or 70. The ones outside Belfast are pretty decently attended as well.

Great event - just turn up with the barcode and away you go.

It's hard to get going at that time of the morning mind you. Usually you get maybe a dozen quick(ish) guys in it so always good for a workout.

What date is that 5k? I wouldn't mind doing a 5k pre end of year but there's a few cross countries I need to make a show for so not sure if it fits.

The one on Saturday had 172 runners going at it. Deputy Lord Mayor handing out medals and McKillop there also handing out prizes.

Great wee run for a 9.30 start to the day.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 07, 2012, 11:13:48 PM
You not fancy the falls park one mr? It could be doing with the help with numbers as one of the lower attended ones...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: hardstation on November 07, 2012, 11:31:01 PM
You not fancy the falls park one mr? It could be doing with the help with numbers as one of the lower attended ones...
More details please....

This could be just what I need.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 08, 2012, 08:16:48 AM
http://www.parkrun.org.uk/falls/ (http://www.parkrun.org.uk/falls/)

That should be all you need hs. Just get a barcode, turn up and run. Good wee event. That one could be doing with more numbers too though it gets 30-40 per week.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2012, 09:49:18 AM
You not fancy the falls park one mr? It could be doing with the help with numbers as one of the lower attended ones...

Aye might give it a go some morning, it's just that the Waterworks one is closer and i go to a class at the gym straight afterwards, timing would be difficult.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 08, 2012, 06:17:05 PM
See the lad who finished 17th in the marathon alledgedly cheated, there seems to be some chat on-line about it, this is from the Daily Mail

http://www.pressdisplay.com/pressdisplay/iphone/homepage.aspx#_article440eb407-e20d-4133-ac6d-29ea9ffc813d
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 08, 2012, 06:57:00 PM
Saw this story a day or two after the race over on boards.ie in the athletics section, the lad was seen by a friend of a poster entering the race down by the RDS. The lad doesn't have a 20mile split so probably nipped down through Clonskeagh after the half way marker. Posters on boards said he has history similar amazing 2nd half splits.

You'd wonder what would motivate you to do that, you may as well come 300th as 30th and there was always a high probability of being caught in a high profile race such as the marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 08, 2012, 08:10:30 PM
What a nobhead, I mean what will he ever think of achieving? bragging rights in the pub afterwards? Hope if he's part of a running club that he's kicked out.

I have been doing the spin classes for few months and the amount of blaggers that go is unreal, why turn up if you don't put on resistance on the bike??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: hardstation on November 08, 2012, 08:16:02 PM
http://www.parkrun.org.uk/falls/ (http://www.parkrun.org.uk/falls/)

That should be all you need hs. Just get a barcode, turn up and run. Good wee event. That one could be doing with more numbers too though it gets 30-40 per week.
Sure everyone on the Falls has a barcode.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 08, 2012, 08:40:50 PM
What a nobhead, I mean what will he ever think of achieving? bragging rights in the pub afterwards? Hope if he's part of a running club that he's kicked out.

I have been doing the spin classes for few months and the amount of blaggers that go is unreal, why turn up if you don't put on resistance on the bike??
Ya, very strange. Wore a crusaders ac top from Dublin but seems like he turned up to training once to get the top and never saw him again. Hope he's banned from AAI races for a long time
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 08, 2012, 09:11:19 PM
That fella in england who got the bus to finish third got kicked out of a race recently and is banned from all steve cram organised races so he may get similar treatment.

What is the point. Hard to understand why you'd bother. Not exactly an achievement.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 08, 2012, 10:05:41 PM
He can't be right in the head in fairness, he's obviously in reasonable shape given his splits, you'd feel sorry for him that it's not enough to finish and have that achievement.

Am 50-50 about that 5k on Saturday, would like to have a time but at training this evening felt like there was lead in my legs still
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 10, 2012, 03:25:42 PM
Anyone else do the park run this morning? Lovely course and perfect conditions.
Very well run, although a steward did go missing in the last half km and I think a few lads may have gotten away with a short cut.
I'll be back though
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 10, 2012, 08:01:10 PM
Thinking of doing the Larne half marathon, 23rd March. Anyone done it before?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on November 10, 2012, 09:04:01 PM
Thinking of doing the Larne half marathon, 23rd March. Anyone done it before?

Not done it before, but It's on my radar too Milltown. I'm training towards it now, and if I don't come out of it suicidal I'll do the Belfast marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneboi on November 10, 2012, 09:11:21 PM
Now that i am winding down from the football i was thinking of doing either the Omagh Half Marathon on the 23rd March or the Larne Half a week later on the 30th March. I wonder would both be too much?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 11, 2012, 09:26:59 AM
I was hoping to do Larne too MR. They changed the course this year but when I did it, and I don't think it's changed that much, it was basically 5-6 mile flat, 2 miles of tough enough hills and then the rest was flat. Omagh is a lot hilier overall. Tyroneboi it wouldn't be too much if you're fit enough but you could do one and enter on the day of the other if you're fit for it.

Great turnout at that first parkruin Mayo4sam. I know a few who went down from here. I ran the waterworks one in Belfast and beat my PB in it from bang on 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2012, 12:05:20 PM
I was hoping to do Larne too MR. They changed the course this year but when I did it, and I don't think it's changed that much, it was basically 5-6 mile flat, 2 miles of tough enough hills and then the rest was flat. Omagh is a lot hilier overall. Tyroneboi it wouldn't be too much if you're fit enough but you could do one and enter on the day of the other if you're fit for it.

Great turnout at that first parkruin Mayo4sam. I know a few who went down from here. I ran the waterworks one in Belfast and beat my PB in it from bang on 2 years ago.

One of my students is trying to call my bluff and get me to do it. He finished last year on 1.40 or thereabouts. I'd need to beat that to be able to show my face!! I'm aming for 1.30, so will put in a few 6 milers in coming weeks just to see how I fare.

Looking running shoes also, any decent priced ones out there at the minute?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 11, 2012, 02:42:35 PM
Looking at new ones myself when I get back going in a few weeks.

Normally use Asics 2170's but looking at the Nike Lunar glides, little bit cheaper and have got good reviews too. Never used Nike before, have a neutral arch, anyone here use Nike?

Congrats on the PB tommy, you tipping close to 17 or even under for 5k?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 11, 2012, 04:34:36 PM
Looking at new ones myself when I get back going in a few weeks.

Normally use Asics 2170's but looking at the Nike Lunar glides, little bit cheaper and have got good reviews too. Never used Nike before, have a neutral arch, anyone here use Nike?

Congrats on the PB tommy, you tipping close to 17 or even under for 5k?

£100! Is that the rate now? last time I bought a pair was 4 or so years ago, christ nowt cheap now.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: leaveherinsir on November 11, 2012, 09:11:13 PM
Havnt been on here in a while. Some good marathon running there guys. Injured at minute myself but on road to recovery. Lookin forward to getting back running soon!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 11, 2012, 09:15:34 PM
The one goal i've not met this year bm is sub 17. The parkrun was just a wee sharpener for a 10k next week- it was of the back of a hard week so i think sub 17 in there when i get the right race.

Mr 1:30 is a tough nut to crack for a half- you'd be needing plenty of miles in the bank for that. Trainers don't need to be 100. Start fitness, sweatshop , sports direct etc online good for them. Last year's model a good one to go for as usually cheaper and never that much difference. Asics irritate my ankle so wear brooks so they're a wee bit dearer. Asics would be fine though - just make sure you get the right cushioning in them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on November 11, 2012, 10:50:33 PM
Extra 20% off Nike clerance with the code compete ends 19/11

Also free delivery with the code nikefree

http://store.nike.com/ie/en_gb/?l=shop,pwp,c-300,sm-1/hf-4294966195

Might be of use to someone.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 12, 2012, 09:38:53 AM
I had a pair of New Balance but was getting problems on the archs of the feet, so got fitted and got a pair of Asics 2170's, haven't had a problem at all since. Got them in total black and everyone looks at them thinking they big and heavy and not for running but they light as a feather and great to run in.

They did cost a few quid but well worth it.

I know a few guys and they would have two pairs and rotate them when running. Not sure why but they would think its common enough.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 12, 2012, 02:18:10 PM
Sub 17 is there for the taking for ya I'd say, although its a tough nut to crack all the same. The park runs are a brilliant sharpner, basically a lactic threshold run every Saturday if you want it. I'll be at least another week out minimum.

Sound Midlouth, bought the lunar glides there. 73 yo yo's, won't do much better than that. Don't think they'll stay that nice colour for long running through the much of the Phoenix park. Ah well.

Ya, the 2170's are a great shoe, they are being rebranded to be called 2000's in January so don't be shocked when you go looking for them, it's the same shoe.

Alternating the shoes is supposed to be a good idea if you run most days as it supposedly gives time for the rubber in the sole to dry out and therefore last longer. Never had the luxury myself of two pairs on the go but still usually get 6-8 months out of a pair.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 16, 2012, 08:51:17 AM
Think I'll give the park run in Malahide tomorrow a go, have a good DIY job done on the foot and is painfree now. Anyone here going?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 16, 2012, 09:20:06 AM
I'm going again BM, let me know what sort of a top you'll have on
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 16, 2012, 09:29:05 AM
I'm going again BM, let me know what sort of a top you'll have on
Good stuff...see ya there so. Probably black tshirt with a bit of red and black shorts.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tubberman on November 16, 2012, 09:37:10 AM
I'm going again BM, let me know what sort of a top you'll have on
Good stuff...see ya there so. Probably black tshirt with a bit of red and black shorts.

Sounds lovely, ye'll be looking mighty ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: StGallsGAA on November 16, 2012, 09:51:42 AM
I want to give some credit where its due.

I bought a pair of Saucony trainers for the Belfast Marathon from Up and Running.  Best investment ever, light as a feather. 

Anyway 5 months on and the sole started peeling.  Brought back to U&R and Catriona the manager took them to let the Saucony sales Rep look at them and he repalced them with a new pair.

10k runs are my max but I'll wear Saucony till I quit now!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 16, 2012, 10:07:42 AM
I'm going again BM, let me know what sort of a top you'll have on
Good stuff...see ya there so. Probably black tshirt with a bit of red and black shorts.

Sounds lovely, ye'll be looking mighty ;)

All Blacks on tour sure.....only gear thats clean actually.. ;)


Interesting article on ice baths...
http://humankinetics.me/2012/11/12/ice-baths-may-injure-rather-than-heal/
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2012, 10:23:40 AM
There are a load of variables in those things though BM:

- Did everyone do the same session?
- What were the effort levels of those sessions?
- When someone didn't have the ice bath did they push as hard as the time they didn't?

Sure you'll read theories on stretching not providing any benefit too but would you believe that... If you push yourself hard I think ice baths will couteract the DOMs a good bit.

You should be near the front of that parkrun anyway. The top end was in the 18s last week I think.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 16, 2012, 10:47:22 AM
Agree tommy, there is conflicting evidence for most practices in sport science if you look hard enough these days. Would like to see the full article as you said with the variables outlined.
Really? The lungs are in for some shock tomorrow so, don't have a clue what type of time I'll do to be honest. No intervals in months, just want to see how much work is needed really.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2012, 10:53:27 AM
Yeah the real fast boys don't normally come out at parkrun... I'd be close enough to winning parkruns most times I turn up and you'd be similar pace or faster. Low 18s won it in malahide last week.

That was my first 5k in a long time last week. At 9:30 in the morning after a full training week. Not easy to say the least. Running fast that early alien to me!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 16, 2012, 11:20:36 AM
From what I hear there'll be a few faster lads tomorrow, last week was 18:19 I think
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 16, 2012, 12:03:14 PM
Them Parkruns are a great job, fair play to those getting them off the ground.

From looking at Boards.ie, it took a bit of work and effort to get the Malahide one up and going. Plus money to be able to do them for free. Does it come from Council funding and some private sponsorship?

Must say, I loved an ice bath after a long slow run during the marathon training. At the very least you could move afterwards.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2012, 12:08:43 PM
You have to come up with a few thousand for it Bingo. Generally speaking the councils will fund it and someone from a running club will undertake the running of it. They're a gift for councils making metrics for healthy living etc so it seems quite a few embrace it. I think they say parkrun will fund 3k of it and you fund the other 3. How that translates into euros I don't know though as that's sterling...

There's quite a bit goes into setting them up with regards to getting routes, making sure they're suitable, getting funding etc etc but the key thing is sustaining them. They get sustained on good will from people who enjoy them so help by volunteering usually from anything I can see up here.

Yeah I don't believe the ice bath thing at all...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 16, 2012, 12:28:50 PM
I seen a figure of 6k mentioned on boards. It would be the commitment to it that would be the issue as you say over time, you'd need a wide base and decent population to get people onboard and keep them onboard with a decent % willing to commit to helping out at times. Seems to take 3/4 people not running every week to set up and manage.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on November 16, 2012, 12:52:25 PM
From reding boards they suggest 3 times a year as a volunteer is about right. I think with IMRA it's one in every ten
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on November 16, 2012, 01:39:10 PM
You could get away with about 4 coordinating it worst case but 6 or so a good number. I ran on saturday then did results so you can double up. The 3 times a year is just a guide. Some people seem to volunteer plenty and some not at all but once it's got going here it's generated enough good will that people are always willing to help out and is self sustaining.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 16, 2012, 05:59:10 PM
You could get away with about 4 coordinating it worst case but 6 or so a good number. I ran on saturday then did results so you can double up. The 3 times a year is just a guide. Some people seem to volunteer plenty and some not at all but once it's got going here it's generated enough good will that people are always willing to help out and is self sustaining.

Wife running tomorrow, I'll be there but have picked up a wee throat infection and runny nose!! So I'll head down with the kids and cheer her on. The time two weeks ago was pretty quick imtommygunn. I'll run it the following week. Might do a lap (or half) first to warm up, as you say it's an early start and I aint at full pelt
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on November 17, 2012, 09:42:43 PM
Anyone use the Nike plus app? Is there any way of seeing what time for each km? I know on the map I can see where I see a bit about how I was doing per the red and green but would like to see which km and judge where I was that I was slow.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 18, 2012, 05:02:11 AM
Not a clue midlouth but least10 pints n 4 jagerbombs in me now. 17.31 today.grand with no 5k training I suppose...should get it dyown!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on November 18, 2012, 10:50:15 AM
Not a clue midlouth but least10 pints n 4 jagerbombs in me now. 17.31 today.grand with no 5k training I suppose...should get it dyown!

Sure the jäger should make you run faster!!! lol
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 18, 2012, 11:01:26 AM
Not a clue midlouth but least10 pints n 4 jagerbombs in me now. 17.31 today.grand with no 5k training I suppose...should get it dyown!

Sure the jäger should make you run faster!!! lol
:D
#pain now...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dubh driocht on November 18, 2012, 03:01:26 PM
There is a run in Annalong, Co. Down , on Saturday 24th November at 11am ( registration from 9am). There is a fun-run/walk of 4 miles and a 10 mile run which takes in the lower slopes of the Mournes including a tunnel at Dunney Water- fantastic views, fresh air, close proximity to three well known GAA clubs ( Glasdrumman( Celebrity bainisteoir champions 2009), Longstone (home to Ambrose Rodgers and Mark Poland) and Ballymartin (home to Gregory McCartan and Paul Higgins). Registration is a fiver which goes to the Mourne mountain rescue service. Starts at the Annalong Marine Park so will be a 'cross-community' job- definitely one for a winter's day !
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Maurice Moss on November 19, 2012, 01:34:27 PM
Has anyone ever took part in the tough mudder endurance runs? Looks a wild tough session!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Aerlik on November 20, 2012, 10:47:43 AM
 :(

Over before it started (properly...again)

Well, the visit to the specialist last week after my eight-month layoff had both good and bad news.  Firstly, the spondylolysthesis appears to have stopped and the slippage between the L5 and the S1 has stopped.  Also, calcification has begun between the vertabrae meaning that the nerves should not be under as much pressure as before.  Still doesn't stop me from being in fekkin agony getting out of bed or from getting up from the couch.

The bad news...the running is over.  No more.  Not allowed as the compression on the bone could crack the calcification and that could be irreperable.  If that happens I will need an operation to fuse the vertabrae together by the insertion of pins between four of the bones and that will keel me over for between three and six months.

From what I've been told, several of the teams in WA are breathing a sigh of relief as I was considering yet another comeback.  I heard rumours Alrite Horse was considering a lucrative transfer package. :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 23, 2012, 03:53:02 PM
1 week Sunday to go to the local 5km, had a few runs over the last few weeks and starting to get some pace back. Great interest in the race at a local level and should be a decent crowd running it.

Have a good run out tonight with the football club senior team who are having one of the local runners (and my running pal) in, to take them through their paces on the track, should be good and he is determined to make his mark!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on November 24, 2012, 01:28:34 PM
Well that was a slippy one this morn for the parkrun! Hardly any PBs as everyone was too busy trying not to slip. Nice day for running if it hadn't been at the Waterworks.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 24, 2012, 10:43:39 PM
Well that was a slippy one this morn for the parkrun! Hardly any PBs as everyone was too busy trying not to slip. Nice day for running if it hadn't been at the Waterworks.

Was going to head over today but when I woke the place was frozen over so decided not to, Gym'd it instead in the nice air conditioning place!!

Yeah PB's would be hard to come by today
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on November 27, 2012, 01:43:42 PM
Legend...

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Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on November 27, 2012, 02:43:50 PM
Haha. Thats a good one.

I seen one for sale with "Are the Kenyans still behind me?" on the front.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 01, 2012, 11:22:08 AM
Meeting a young wan for a few drinks tonight so won't be able to make the Castleblaney 5K tomorrow...3rd year lucky next year maybe Bingo, typical!

So I headed out for the parkrun this morning instead. Getting the leg speed back is proving much harder than expected, serious burn at the back of the throat coming towards the end. Was in 5th with about 500 to go and came up on 4th, a guy in his 40's I'd say who was slowing. So I gave him a shout to keep her lit and was going to run in with him, the cheeky bugger started sprinting with about 200....so i said, feck this...not getting beaten by a lad around 20 years older than me in a sprint finish!haha...17.25 in the end. Two more weekends to get under the 17 and then might take a break for around 3 months.

edit: the guy was in his 50's looking at the results, christ!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 01, 2012, 06:21:18 PM
Good man, chasing the young yans, theyd do well to away from you at those times!

All set for big day tomorrow, fierce numbers looking likely. We're worried a bit in that we'll not have enough medals and numbers!

Should be good and a well deserved few pins after it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 01, 2012, 08:07:53 PM
Good man, chasing the young yans, theyd do well to away from you at those times!

All set for big day tomorrow, fierce numbers looking likely. We're worried a bit in that we'll not have enough medals and numbers!

Should be good and a well deserved few pins after it!
Heading to Blayney Bowl?  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 01, 2012, 09:22:12 PM
Good man, chasing the young yans, theyd do well to away from you at those times!

All set for big day tomorrow, fierce numbers looking likely. We're worried a bit in that we'll not have enough medals and numbers!

Should be good and a well deserved few pins after it!
Heading to Blayney Bowl?  ;)

Haha, well they do serve them! It's been that long I can't even spell it. Two and I'll be anyone's.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on December 03, 2012, 08:11:25 AM
From the indo on Thursday lads . So know too much running is bad for you as well  ???

Health News Home
Thursday November 29 2012

DOING too many marathons could kill you, doctors have said in a stark warning about the dangers of taking too much vigorous exercise.

Fitness fanatics should do “just one or a few” marathons or full-distance triathlons, say the cardiologists, because over-exerting the heart for years can lead to long-term damage.

There is now convincing evidence that repeatedly asking the heart to pump “massive” volumes of blood, for hours at a time, can lead to an array of problems, they say.

These include overstretching of the organ’s chambers, thickening of its walls and changes to electrical signalling. These could trigger potentially dangerous heart rhythm problems.

“In addition, long-term excessive exercise may accelerate aging in the heart, as evidenced by increased coronary artery calci?cation, diastolic ventricular dysfunction, and large-artery wall stiffening,” they write in the journal Heart.

Dr James O’Keefe and Carl Lavie, from St Luke’s Mid America Heart Institute in Kansas City, and the Pennington Biomedical Research Centre in Baton Rouge, US, say the heart is only designed for “short bursts” of intense activity.

They cite the example of Micah True, the hero of the book Born to Run about ultra-endurance running.

He died in March, aged 58, on a 12-mile training run in New Mexico. He routinely ran a marathon a day, sometimes more.

They believe that decades of such exertion led him to develop Phidippides cardiomyopathy.

Named after the original runner, who died delivering news of the Greeks’ victory at Marathon, it is “the constellation of cardiac pathology that has been in observed in the hearts of some veteran extreme endurance athletes”.

They concluded that most people should limit vigorous exercise to 30 to 50 minutes a day.

“If one really wants to do a marathon or full-distance triathlon etc, it may be best to do just one or a few and then proceed to safer and healthier exercise patterns,” they advise.

No amount light to moderate exercise is harmful, they note.

“A routine of moderate physical activity will add life to your years, as well as years to your life.

“In contrast, running too fast, too far, and for too many years may speed one’s progress towards the ?nish line of life.”

Ellen Mason, senior cardiac nurse at the British Heart Foundation, said: “Whether you’re taking part in an endurance event, watching your weight or staying healthy after a heart attack, it’s important to build up your activity levels gradually, especially if you’ve not exercised in a while.”

Stephen Adams Telegraph.co.uk
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 03, 2012, 12:12:46 PM
I wonder if there are other motives behind this research, wouldn't be surprised if it was backed by gym based company who are loosing serious business due to the upsurge in running. Talk about a sensationalistic headline. So basically they are saying, If you run flat out every day it'll catch up with you sooner or later. No shit Sherlock.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 03, 2012, 12:22:51 PM
I wonder if there are other motives behind this research, wouldn't be surprised if it was backed by gym based company who are loosing serious business due to the upsurge in running. Talk about a sensationalistic headline. So basically they are saying, If you run flat out every day it'll catch up with you sooner or later. No shit Sherlock.

Aye was a bit daft that. Seen a report like this before. I'm sure there are more lads dropping dead from heart conditions due to poor exercise and bad diet!! I'll take my chances with running and other exercises
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on December 03, 2012, 01:05:29 PM
I know for a fact that having too many birthday parties will kill you.

Though it shouldnt stop you doing marathons.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on December 03, 2012, 04:48:37 PM
Thats it I'm quitting before it kills me!

Finally got under 25 mins for 5km last week, 24 mins 30 secs, so pretty happy with that. And up to 7km in a not so pretty 36 mins.

For you regulars, my plan at the moment consists of a short run during the week, 5km, I play 5 aside so that is another night of the week I'm considering a small run and then a longer run at the weekend.

Right so my intentions were to keep going along like so until I reach the 10km mark, so at least then I have a solid enough base, then move onto doing some interval work to improve my times. Is this a good way to go about it? Or should I try and do a bit of interval work now? The 5 aside is the only thing that I am not willing to change, too much banter so everything needs to be worked around it :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on December 03, 2012, 05:23:47 PM
Thats it I'm quitting before it kills me!

Finally got under 25 mins for 5km last week, 24 mins 30 secs, so pretty happy with that. And up to 7km in a not so pretty 36 mins.

For you regulars, my plan at the moment consists of a short run during the week, 5km, I play 5 aside so that is another night of the week I'm considering a small run and then a longer run at the weekend.

Right so my intentions were to keep going along like so until I reach the 10km mark, so at least then I have a solid enough base, then move onto doing some interval work to improve my times. Is this a good way to go about it? Or should I try and do a bit of interval work now? The 5 aside is the only thing that I am not willing to change, too much banter so everything needs to be worked around it :)

Hard to beat the old 5 a side. It got me back into shape last year when I couldn't stick at the running. Was eventually playing 3 times a week and really pushing myself with it and the weight began to fall off and the fitness improved hugely.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on December 03, 2012, 05:50:07 PM
Thats it I'm quitting before it kills me!

Finally got under 25 mins for 5km last week, 24 mins 30 secs, so pretty happy with that. And up to 7km in a not so pretty 36 mins.

For you regulars, my plan at the moment consists of a short run during the week, 5km, I play 5 aside so that is another night of the week I'm considering a small run and then a longer run at the weekend.

Right so my intentions were to keep going along like so until I reach the 10km mark, so at least then I have a solid enough base, then move onto doing some interval work to improve my times. Is this a good way to go about it? Or should I try and do a bit of interval work now? The 5 aside is the only thing that I am not willing to change, too much banter so everything needs to be worked around it :)

Hard to beat the old 5 a side. It got me back into shape last year when I couldn't stick at the running. Was eventually playing 3 times a week and really pushing myself with it and the weight began to fall off and the fitness improved hugely.

Yeah started playing around 12 months ago and love it. The group evolved a bit, a few lads had other commitments so a few younger buckos were recruited and it was a wake up call, I am not a 19 year old any more who can over miles and miles without a drop of sweat after an hour that I thought I was!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 03, 2012, 07:00:40 PM
Good stuff Midlouth. I would continue the 5 a side alright, gives the lungs a good work out. For yourself  I would consider 3 runs a week plus the soccer.

40 minute tempo run. 10 mins warm up, 20 mins tempo...gradually building the pace, a pace basically you would be happy to slow down if you could, not race pace but not far off it if you know what i mean.

5-10Km easy recovery run.

1 hour long run. Easy.

That mixed with the short bursts in the soccer should get your time down. The tempo run will be the key workout during the week, aim to increase it eventually to 30 mins with 10 mins warm up and down. Will have clipping the minutes 1 by 1 off your current 5k PB.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on December 03, 2012, 07:17:34 PM
Good stuff Midlouth. I would continue the 5 a side alright, gives the lungs a good work out. For yourself  I would consider 3 runs a week plus the soccer.

40 minute tempo run. 10 mins warm up, 20 mins tempo...gradually building the pace, a pace basically you would be happy to slow down if you could, not race pace but not far off it if you know what i mean.

5-10Km easy recovery run.

1 hour long run. Easy.

That mixed with the short bursts in the soccer should get your time down. The tempo run will be the key workout during the week, aim to increase it eventually to 30 mins with 10 mins warm up and down. Will have clipping the minutes 1 by 1 off your current 5k PB.

Cheers ballinaman I'll give that a go. Hopefully I will since some good times getting produced.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on December 03, 2012, 10:10:45 PM
Thats it I'm quitting before it kills me!

Finally got under 25 mins for 5km last week, 24 mins 30 secs, so pretty happy with that. And up to 7km in a not so pretty 36 mins.

For you regulars, my plan at the moment consists of a short run during the week, 5km, I play 5 aside so that is another night of the week I'm considering a small run and then a longer run at the weekend.

Right so my intentions were to keep going along like so until I reach the 10km mark, so at least then I have a solid enough base, then move onto doing some interval work to improve my times. Is this a good way to go about it? Or should I try and do a bit of interval work now? The 5 aside is the only thing that I am not willing to change, too much banter so everything needs to be worked around it :)

I've been doing a similar thing since August and I reckon half the battle is simply training your mind and body to run for longer periods of time. My original goal was sub 40 for 8k and I found that running for 40 mins constant was the hard part. Once I did that, the 8k came soon after. On the treadmill I've now got as much as 9.5k through in that time on my way to 10k. Keep her lit.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on December 03, 2012, 10:27:24 PM
I've been adding .25km to each of my longer weekend runs, I started to add .5km from last weekend, I have a fair idea that I could probably do 10km now but would rather take it one week at a time until I get there, but at the same time because my body is only adjusting to the increased workload I don't to have a breakdown, like I've had before. As you say Wobbler, training body and mind, like doing something once it is like a mark in your mind and that is the new bench mark.

Do you not fund the treadmill boring? I've found out running the footpaths around the town here far more entertaining and making the time go quicker, using the nike plus app for keeping a track of how I'm doing, I like the PB stuff they have, Lance Armstrong is still congratulating me from time to time!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 03, 2012, 10:40:03 PM
Try a slightly longer run once a week but do it a good bit slower. Just stick at it at low effort levels. You'd be amazed that this will bring you on and bring you on quickly. The lower effort level stuff does wonders for the fitness. Lower but not too low. S that you feel reasonably fresh at the end of it.

Edit: just read bm's comments. I would agree with some of it. The longer stuff will help you no end. Basically get yourself comfortable running for longer periods of time. The best way is slow running. If you're ok with this already then look at the tempo but only if you can run 40 minutes.

Step 1 to running is fitness, then strength and then fine tune the speed. 2 or 3 not so easy without 1 but if you have1 tempos the way to go.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on December 03, 2012, 10:47:54 PM
I've been adding .25km to each of my longer weekend runs, I started to add .5km from last weekend, I have a fair idea that I could probably do 10km now but would rather take it one week at a time until I get there, but at the same time because my body is only adjusting to the increased workload I don't to have a breakdown, like I've had before. As you say Wobbler, training body and mind, like doing something once it is like a mark in your mind and that is the new bench mark.

Do you not fund the treadmill boring? I've found out running the footpaths around the town here far more entertaining and making the time go quicker, using the nike plus app for keeping a track of how I'm doing, I like the PB stuff they have, Lance Armstrong is still congratulating me from time to time!

I hate the treadmill, but with 3 kids under 2, my best option most of the time is lunch hour in the gym across the road. I've started to get out on the road every few weeks now and it's a different game. But the treadmill definitely conquered the whole 'you can't run for an hour you fat fool' thing. Did 8 miles on the road last week and I knew I'd get it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on December 03, 2012, 11:20:56 PM
I've been adding .25km to each of my longer weekend runs, I started to add .5km from last weekend, I have a fair idea that I could probably do 10km now but would rather take it one week at a time until I get there, but at the same time because my body is only adjusting to the increased workload I don't to have a breakdown, like I've had before. As you say Wobbler, training body and mind, like doing something once it is like a mark in your mind and that is the new bench mark.

Do you not fund the treadmill boring? I've found out running the footpaths around the town here far more entertaining and making the time go quicker, using the nike plus app for keeping a track of how I'm doing, I like the PB stuff they have, Lance Armstrong is still congratulating me from time to time!

I hate the treadmill, but with 3 kids under 2, my best option most of the time is lunch hour in the gym across the road. I've started to get out on the road every few weeks now and it's a different game. But the treadmill definitely conquered the whole 'you can't run for an hour you fat fool' thing. Did 8 miles on the road last week and I knew I'd get it.

Point taken, 3 under 2 must be some handful! Important to take advantage of the time you have available to you. Treadmill harder on the mind, road harder on the body, I've noticed once you get into a rhythm it can become enjoyable, never thought I'd be writing about running being enjoyable!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 06, 2012, 09:51:34 AM
Did a Vo2 max test with the guys at myhealthmatters.ie. Tough going but would highly recommend it, need to get myself a heart rate monitor to get the most out of training by the looks of it. Got a metabolic test done too, not taking in enough calories it seems...sitting on my arse all day and not evening training I'd need to be taking in 2,800 to break even, needs to be 3,500 with a hour running session say and then 4,500 if i want to start building more muscle!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 06, 2012, 09:59:39 AM
Did one myself with them in summer, very useful. Ideally the heart rate monitor would be the way to go but I haven't got into myself. I got a few good things out of it, my metabolism is very poor, so have had to change that to lose the excess weight I carry. When running I don't burn enough calories due to poor muscle structure and the poor metabolism. Have improved this with strength and conditioning to build muscles.

A few of us going to structure a programme in January based n the Vo2 test and get it done again.

5km went well the other day, 650 or so done it between runners and walkers, great turnout considering the poor day it was. Winning time of just over 16mins. I was just outside 20mins, had hoped to go below but was slow to start and took a while to get into it, i suppose I wasn't in race mode all morning as I was running round getting stuff sorted for race right up to the off. Enjoyable day though and had a right session after it!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on December 06, 2012, 10:05:55 AM
Did a Vo2 max test with the guys at myhealthmatters.ie. Tough going but would highly recommend it, need to get myself a heart rate monitor to get the most out of training by the looks of it. Got a metabolic test done too, not taking in enough calories it seems...sitting on my arse all day and not evening training I'd need to be taking in 2,800 to break even, needs to be 3,500 with a hour running session say and then 4,500 if i want to start building more muscle!

Was looking to get one myself, possibly the Polar H7, it is bluetooth and works with the Iphone. I am not sure what apps it is friendly with, I was reading a few articles on tempo running and one of them from running world suggested 80% of heart rate would be a good indicator of that zone to be running in.

I tried tempo run the other night, ten minute light run as a warm up, the 20 mins of what I thought was a tempo pace (it wasn't when I looked at the times and distances :( ), I think I need to break it into segments of maybe 4 mins on 1.5 mins off, by 5, and shorten it over the weeks into one block of 20 mins. I did feel like my legs got a good blow out afterwards!

Interesting to read about the metabolic test, I'm around 5'11 and 83kg, I don't really want to be going any lighter than that. Did you have that done with myhealthmatters.ie too? Out of interest what money would you be paying to have those tests done?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 06, 2012, 10:41:20 AM
Great turnout is right Bingo, fair play to ye for organising it. Not easy when you are talking those numbers.  The 20 mins will drop soon enough if you are close to it.
Good stuff midlouth, its a tough session to be fair but maybe dropping take the minutes that you are "on" is a good idea as you said starting off.

The metabolic test was interesting. Just sat with a yoke to breathe into for 15 mins, no food for tea/coffee for 4 hours before hand. Metabolism is through the roof it seems, I was 76kg before marathon training and i'm 6ft on the button. Showed that I was 71.3kg yesterday ffs....wouldn't have thought i dropped that much but must have lost a fair bit of visceral fat(deep stuff around the organs).

I was always a bit iffy about the need for a heart rate monitor, thinking you just need to feel like your bursting yourself to get a good workout. I got up to 20 mins on the test and hit stop at 19.5km with the heart rate at 191. It was a weird feeling, legs felt grand and probably good a full on sprinted for another seconds but just couldn't get the air in fast enough. The test is good because it shows what heart rate you need to be hitting during interval sessions. The whole thing lasted for 2 hours approx and cost 130 blips. Give you all the data too.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 06, 2012, 11:03:31 AM
I had a lactate threshold test the other year which was interesting. I also did a biomechanical assessment where it was about 8 sprints, 20 minutes tempo, 8 sprints, 20 minutes tempo. Tough going.

With regard to the heart rate stuff I would swear by heart rate training. 70% on easy and long runs, 80 - 85 on tempos and in terms of intervals I never worry too much about the heart rate.

Once you hit over an hour and a half of running consistently for your long run the weight starts to ship off you.

Midlouth a tempo run is about the effort level that you put into it rather than the pace so it's important not to get too hung up on pace. The pace will come over time but basically it's threshold running - what pace that is is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 08, 2012, 05:05:44 PM
Samuel Wanjiru - huge loss to athletics. Amazing to see this view of him in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-SxTnqCmLA&t=0m50s
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 09, 2012, 01:09:02 PM
Well done to the women's cross country (with snow) on doing the double at the Europeans, team and individual gold.

Should run at Olympics round a fid without the track.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 09, 2012, 01:16:25 PM
Well done to the women's cross country (with snow) on doing the double at the Europeans, team and individual gold.

Should run at Olympics round a fid without the track.
sensational stuff from the women!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 14, 2012, 11:06:37 AM
Some comeback!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=K6oZI8L59Nw
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on December 14, 2012, 04:40:33 PM
If you're doing the Park Run tomorrow morning in the Waterworks, Beal Feirste, then watch out for the black swan

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Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2012, 04:50:46 PM
There's the odd spide on his way home with a bottle of buckfast you need to watch out for too Orior!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on December 14, 2012, 05:17:08 PM
It's my first volunteering session tomorrow at the Waterworks - I believe I will be scanning the barcodes!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 14, 2012, 06:15:57 PM
Read the wee cue card Rois and you'll be grand. Easy!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on December 22, 2012, 05:48:32 PM
Completed my third parkrun today.

45 seconds slower than my PB. Blaming age.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on December 25, 2012, 03:40:17 PM
Completed my third parkrun today.

45 seconds slower than my PB. Blaming age.

My fourth Parkrun today, and a new personal best! However still havent broken 25 mins for 5km which is embarrassingly poor.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 25, 2012, 03:52:23 PM
Completed my third parkrun today.

45 seconds slower than my PB. Blaming age.

My fourth Parkrun today, and a new personal best! However still havent broken 25 mins for 5km which is embarrassingly poor.
well done, keep her lit and you'll get there soon enough. 4 mile race tomorrow, should be interesting after the dinner and 4 desserts today!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 25, 2012, 07:23:28 PM
Completed my third parkrun today.

45 seconds slower than my PB. Blaming age.

My fourth Parkrun today, and a new personal best! However still havent broken 25 mins for 5km which is embarrassingly poor.

Time will keep coming down,  keep at it
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on December 25, 2012, 08:07:32 PM
Completed my third parkrun today.

45 seconds slower than my PB. Blaming age.

My fourth Parkrun today, and a new personal best! However still havent broken 25 mins for 5km which is embarrassingly poor.

Fcuk the olympians here, well done. 25 for 5k is great and I would be very happy with that. I had to quit in the early summer due to a knee problem, having got up to 4k quickly. I started again recently but still haven't even done a 5k slowly. But I'll get there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Tony Baloney on December 25, 2012, 08:33:04 PM
Completed my third parkrun today.

45 seconds slower than my PB. Blaming age.

My fourth Parkrun today, and a new personal best! However still havent broken 25 mins for 5km which is embarrassingly poor.

Fcuk the olympians here, well done. 25 for 5k is great and I would be very happy with that. I had to quit in the early summer due to a knee problem, having got up to 4k quickly. I started again recently but still haven't even done a 5k slowly. But I'll get there.
Are you the only one of the original Couch to 5kers still at it? I think I did the first week  :-[
Title: Re: Running
Post by: the Deel Rover on December 25, 2012, 08:38:27 PM
Completed my third parkrun today.

45 seconds slower than my PB. Blaming age.

My fourth Parkrun today, and a new personal best! However still havent broken 25 mins for 5km which is embarrassingly poor.


I'd be delighted with 25 minutes for a 5k Orior . What are are you out of interest ? Back training tomorrow hope to do a half Marathon in a few months time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on December 25, 2012, 09:49:08 PM
Completed my third parkrun today.

45 seconds slower than my PB. Blaming age.

My fourth Parkrun today, and a new personal best! However still havent broken 25 mins for 5km which is embarrassingly poor.

Fcuk the olympians here, well done. 25 for 5k is great and I would be very happy with that. I had to quit in the early summer due to a knee problem, having got up to 4k quickly. I started again recently but still haven't even done a 5k slowly. But I'll get there.
Are you the only one of the original Couch to 5kers still at it? I think I did the first week  :-[

I got to week 7/8 the first time, 4k very slowly. Then I got a Baker's cyst in the back of my knee and had to rest.

Started again and decided to run a faster pace this time from the word go. Got to week 7 and have been stuck there for a few weeks. But I am still in the game and the knee is holding. If I do a 5k in 25 mins (even 28 mins) I will be over the moon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on December 25, 2012, 10:48:23 PM
10km race in morning for local charity, it's a great social run and will help blow the turkey off before I refill on it.

Should be great!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on December 27, 2012, 01:39:29 PM
Got one of those GPS watch jobs for Christmas along with a heart monitor. It looks like some job if I only had a clue how to use it!!!

All I've been doing is my normal runs but just tracking them. What's the best way to get some benefit out of them? I wouldn't know much about interval training or threshold running or that. Are there any guru's out there could help me to utilise it a bit better?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on December 28, 2012, 08:35:17 AM
Got one of those GPS watch jobs for Christmas along with a heart monitor. It looks like some job if I only had a clue how to use it!!!

All I've been doing is my normal runs but just tracking them. What's the best way to get some benefit out of them? I wouldn't know much about interval training or threshold running or that. Are there any guru's out there could help me to utilise it a bit better?
Good stuff, not a bad present there. Is it the Polar one with GPS and HR monitor combined? Nice bit of tech that is.

The best man to ask would be tommygunn here, think he said he has been training with HR monitor for a few years now. Going to get into using it myself now, will definitely make your training more efficient if you get running in the right "zones".

Ended up just outside 23 mins for the 4 mile on stephens day, brutal course...one of the hardest ever I would go as far to say! Great turn out though considering the amount of grub the day before, great to see.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 28, 2012, 11:17:51 AM
Got one of those GPS watch jobs for Christmas along with a heart monitor. It looks like some job if I only had a clue how to use it!!!

All I've been doing is my normal runs but just tracking them. What's the best way to get some benefit out of them? I wouldn't know much about interval training or threshold running or that. Are there any guru's out there could help me to utilise it a bit better?

Birthday in couple of days was thinking of one of those things for myself. Did you get the Garmin one or another type? Did Santa let you know how much it cost?

Reading up on a few there and they seem grand, wouldn't be mad keen on long distance running, 10K would be my limit, although I've been talked into the Larne half marathon :o They seem decent jobs all the same and able to check your distance and match it with your last run. Would hate to do the same route all the time and this device would be able to give you an accurate time/distance run each time. Whats the recommended heart rate level that you should be aiming for (above flatline :P)? Notice ones at gym using them on the spin bike for monitoring the heart rate.

All this talk of running, away off to the gym now
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on December 28, 2012, 11:32:00 AM
It's the Garmin forerunner 410.

The cheapest I've seen it is £140. Handy bit of kit definitely I think I may need to do a bit of research around heart rate zones and such to work it out for myself.

www.handtec.co.uk/garmin-forerunner-410-010-00658-40.html?gclid=CNf9mOL_vLQCFe7MtAodpy4Agg
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on December 29, 2012, 06:40:54 PM
Orior - were you there this morn? I'm getting worse instead of better. I'm a long way off my PB - about a minute and a half.

There's prob going to be a run on New Year's Day at 10am.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on December 29, 2012, 06:53:42 PM
Got one of those GPS watch jobs for Christmas along with a heart monitor. It looks like some job if I only had a clue how to use it!!!

All I've been doing is my normal runs but just tracking them. What's the best way to get some benefit out of them? I wouldn't know much about interval training or threshold running or that. Are there any guru's out there could help me to utilise it a bit better?

Birthday in couple of days was thinking of one of those things for myself. Did you get the Garmin one or another type? Did Santa let you know how much it cost?

Reading up on a few there and they seem grand, wouldn't be mad keen on long distance running, 10K would be my limit, although I've been talked into the Larne half marathon :o They seem decent jobs all the same and able to check your distance and match it with your last run. Would hate to do the same route all the time and this device would be able to give you an accurate time/distance run each time. Whats the recommended heart rate level that you should be aiming for (above flatline :P)? Notice ones at gym using them on the spin bike for monitoring the heart rate.

All this talk of running, away off to the gym now

"easy" running is 70% heart rate so you should keep the heart rate below that on easy runs. Tempo runs are 85.

Gps watches are great but mainly for number nerds... Heart rate training great for the fitness so i'd recommend it for that. You can also do measured intervals etc with specified recoveries and you can use a ghost feature to race against yourself from previous runs. Watches good for heart rate training but you need to know your zones.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on December 29, 2012, 07:42:32 PM
Orior - were you there this morn? I'm getting worse instead of better. I'm a long way off my PB - about a minute and a half.

There's prob going to be a run on New Year's Day at 10am.
Nope. I was back on the golf course where I belong, lol. However I'm planning to do the one at 10am on New Year's Day, followed by a gentle cycle in the afternoon. The life of Reilly, eh?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2012, 11:46:08 PM
Orior - were you there this morn? I'm getting worse instead of better. I'm a long way off my PB - about a minute and a half.

There's prob going to be a run on New Year's Day at 10am.
Nope. I was back on the golf course where I belong, lol. However I'm planning to do the one at 10am on New Year's Day, followed by a gentle cycle in the afternoon. The life of Reilly, eh?

Might do that one myself, be a goodin, seeing I'm out that night :o
Title: Re: Running
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 02, 2013, 07:48:09 PM
I normally go on the treadmill for 5k or 20mins whatever comes first, today I gave a debut to a new pair of trainers and after 10 mins I started to feel a lot of lower back pain and had to go off.  Is this normal? Back has been sore all day and it hurts to bend over. #sadface
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on January 02, 2013, 08:18:37 PM
Orior - were you there this morn? I'm getting worse instead of better. I'm a long way off my PB - about a minute and a half.

There's prob going to be a run on New Year's Day at 10am.
Nope. I was back on the golf course where I belong, lol. However I'm planning to do the one at 10am on New Year's Day, followed by a gentle cycle in the afternoon. The life of Reilly, eh?

Might do that one myself, be a goodin, seeing I'm out that night :o

50 mins for 5k?

I hope you dont mind me saying and even with the late night excuse, but you are a crap runner Milltown Row.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 02, 2013, 09:05:04 PM
Orior - were you there this morn? I'm getting worse instead of better. I'm a long way off my PB - about a minute and a half.

There's prob going to be a run on New Year's Day at 10am.
Nope. I was back on the golf course where I belong, lol. However I'm planning to do the one at 10am on New Year's Day, followed by a gentle cycle in the afternoon. The life of Reilly, eh?

Might do that one myself, be a goodin, seeing I'm out that night :o

50 mins for 5k?

I hope you dont mind me saying and even with the late night excuse, but you are a crap runner Milltown Row.

?? I'm a 21 minute man for 5K. Got the Garmin watch, which really worries me as it means her in doors is probably reading my posts FFS. Will get it up loaded tomorrow when I get a chance
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 03, 2013, 09:54:01 AM
New year and new targets I suppose. Did a 10km race on St Stephens day and another run another day but have been quite lazy during the holidays, which is excuseable after a hard year.

Committed to a 30 day challenge starting pm Saturday - 30 days, 30 runs at a minimum of 30 mins a day. Will be interesting and a good start to the year.

Looking at doing the Connemarathon in early April or the belfast marathon in May. Have to decide this week and sort out a plan for the spring.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on January 03, 2013, 01:01:57 PM
A friend of mine in work started running 3 miles per day on 1 July - it's a challenge that lasts a year ( www.1095miles.com).

She's over halfway through it.  She's done one marathon and only took up running in 2010 but I'm super-impressed with her dedication to be out every day. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 03, 2013, 01:11:00 PM
A friend of mine in work started running 3 miles per day on 1 July - it's a challenge that lasts a year ( www.1095miles.com).

She's over halfway through it.  She's done one marathon and only took up running in 2010 but I'm super-impressed with her dedication to be out every day.
That's class, fair play to her. Some going, hope she doesn't get sick or something.

I'm going into hibernation training wise until the end of March. Going to get stuck into 5K/10K training to peak in August-September and then start into marathon training in November for Boston marathon 2014.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on January 03, 2013, 08:54:34 PM
Just in from a 12K, did it in 53 mins. The first one of 2013 and it feels great!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on January 03, 2013, 09:35:40 PM
Bf just signed up for New York half marathon...on 17 March.

Indirect flights for £330 from Dublin Fri 15th, run at 7.30am through Manhattan, finished up in time to enjoy the parades for St Patrick's Day, fly home Monday eve.

I will just have to make sure he comes back in one piece from our ski hol.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: dec on January 03, 2013, 09:40:49 PM
Bf just signed up for New York half marathon...on 17 March.

Indirect flights for £330 from Dublin Fri 15th, run at 7.30am through Manhattan, finished up in time to enjoy the parades for St Patrick's Day, fly home Monday eve.

I will just have to make sure he comes back in one piece from our ski hol.

The New York St. Patrick's Day parade will be on Saturday this year, it is never held on a Sunday.

http://nycstpatricksparade.org/parade-information
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on January 03, 2013, 09:45:12 PM
Bf just signed up for New York half marathon...on 17 March.

Indirect flights for £330 from Dublin Fri 15th, run at 7.30am through Manhattan, finished up in time to enjoy the parades for St Patrick's Day, fly home Monday eve.

I will just have to make sure he comes back in one piece from our ski hol.

Implement a backup BF just in case.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on January 03, 2013, 09:49:08 PM
Bf just signed up for New York half marathon...on 17 March.

Indirect flights for £330 from Dublin Fri 15th, run at 7.30am through Manhattan, finished up in time to enjoy the parades for St Patrick's Day, fly home Monday eve.

I will just have to make sure he comes back in one piece from our ski hol.

Implement a backup BF just in case.

No need, I'm not accompanying him,just don't want people blaming me if he can't run for charity.

Jeez I couldn't handle two of them...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on January 03, 2013, 09:51:10 PM


The New York St. Patrick's Day parade will be on Saturday this year, it is never held on a Sunday.

http://nycstpatricksparade.org/parade-information

Oh that's even better - he can enjoy pints on Sunday without having to feel guilty about missing parades  ;D

Thanks Dec!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: GJL on January 04, 2013, 10:20:56 PM
Any of you tried spinning. Started it at the end of November and do it once a week. Tough stuff but good results.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2013, 05:25:15 PM
Any of you tried spinning. Started it at the end of November and do it once a week. Tough stuff but good results.

Do it 3 times a week, it's tough and can get as tough as you want it to be, depending on the resistance you put on while doing it.

It's a serious cardio work out and at the gym I go to there classes is the morning (before work) and classes at night, very popular
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on January 05, 2013, 05:34:29 PM
How do you guys keep your weight up? I am slightly concerned about loosing too much weight, I am slipping towards 80kg which I really don't want to go under. Did any of you have to change your diet much to counter weight loss?

Also considering starting to a small bit of core work coupled with kettle bell workout on off days to get some muscle on, well that is the hope!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 05, 2013, 05:43:55 PM
How do you guys keep your weight up? I am slightly concerned about loosing too much weight, I am slipping towards 80kg which I really don't want to go under. Did any of you have to change your diet much to counter weight loss?

Also considering starting to a small bit of core work coupled with kettle bell workout on off days to get some muscle on, well that is the hope!
It's seriously tough to be honest. I went from 82kg June 2011 to 75kg around the Dublin marathon in October 2011 and then I was 72kg during this years marathon where I upped the training a fair bit. That's probably where I should be at for fast running. I was eating like a horse but the metabolism was in overdrive. Going on a bit of an eating/gym program for the next 9 weeks.....The core, kettle bells will sort you but you've got to eat in relation to how many calories you are burning.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2013, 05:47:11 PM
How do you guys keep your weight up? I am slightly concerned about loosing too much weight, I am slipping towards 80kg which I really don't want to go under. Did any of you have to change your diet much to counter weight loss?

Also considering starting to a small bit of core work coupled with kettle bell workout on off days to get some muscle on, well that is the hope!

I eat like fcuk!! But I back this up with a decent weights program and do the pump class before Spin so building muscle losing fat (well that's the plan, working well so far)

I'm at a really good weight and basically no fat. Might start doing the kettle bells instead, just to change it up
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on January 05, 2013, 05:56:35 PM
I'll have to start calory counting again, will need to figure out how much I am burning so I can pair that against what I am eating. Hopefully I can manage that can stay around what I am at.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on January 06, 2013, 11:46:56 AM
Jaysus ML you're lucky there are no girls on this thread "boohoo I can't stop losing weight!" A lot of people would love to be in your predicament.

I had been losing weight like mad and h ave put half a stone on in just over 2 weeks... Currently 14st and want to get down to 12.5. You're best bet is to eat like mad and do some kind of weights programme. If you're playing football you should be doing that anyway I would suggest to keep some lean muscle there and keep the strength up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on January 06, 2013, 10:32:28 PM
I have heard of a couple of fellas that go to a gym and then pay a personal trainer to devise some strict fitness and diet plan, £100 a week apparently. I saw the results for one of the fellas and they were really impressive.

Surely you could do this off your own bat without handing over that sort of dough and I can imagine you would slip a bit when you finish the programme. One of the fellas quit the programme as the diet was too tough but is still ploughing on with the workout.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 06, 2013, 10:58:44 PM
Ml you hit about 100 calories a mile so you should eat 2.5 k plus 100 x no of miles to sustain weight...

The main time you lose the weight with the running is when the long runs go 1.5 - 2 hours.

I would be like mr and don't really watch what i eat. I can't get lower than 12 on ~40 mile a week.

Minder there are some good pt guys out there - though more bad than good. Fitness is about time and effort more than anything with the key point the routine so most people should be able to get themselves fit with the motivation. I have heard of some boys doing the same as what you talk about - the dieting on that is pretty extreme and the average joe wouldn't know about that. It all depends what you want. There would probably be a bit of vanity more than a desire to get fit in that £100 a week programme... £100 a week is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Minder on January 06, 2013, 11:07:57 PM
Ml you hit about 100 calories a mile so you should eat 2.5 k plus 100 x no of miles to sustain weight...

The main time you lose the weight with the running is when the long runs go 1.5 - 2 hours.

I would be like mr and don't really watch what i eat. I can't get lower than 12 on ~40 mile a week.

Minder there are some good pt guys out there - though more bad than good. Fitness is about time and effort more than anything with the key point the routine so most people should be able to get themselves fit with the motivation. I have heard of some boys doing the same as what you talk about - the dieting on that is pretty extreme and the average joe wouldn't know about that. It all depends what you want. There would probably be a bit of vanity more than a desire to get fit in that £100 a week programme... £100 a week is ridiculous.

I think you are right there, both of the fellas are also doing the sunbeds as far as I can see.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 07, 2013, 09:33:24 AM
Are these guys after the Jersey/Geordie Shore look or just trying to get fit and lose a bit of weight. 100 per week seems excessive when there is plenty of cheaper alternatives available i'd guess unless its body building they looking to replicate.

Took the plunge and signed up for the Connemarathon on the 7th April. Will be a tight one, me and hills will be getting very friendly in the coming months.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on January 07, 2013, 09:36:26 AM
£100 a week seems a bit ridiculous. A lad round our way is a Strength and Conditioning coach and is taking us for a couple of sessions a week. Serious weights but he's into technique and getting it right and I can't argue with him as the improvements I've had in 6 weeks are great. I imagine if you did something like that and had a proper diet (Why do you need people to tell you what to eat surely it's fairly obvious at this stage what you should eat) you'd be the next 'situation'.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on January 07, 2013, 09:49:25 AM
Ml you hit about 100 calories a mile so you should eat 2.5 k plus 100 x no of miles to sustain weight...

The main time you lose the weight with the running is when the long runs go 1.5 - 2 hours.

I would be like mr and don't really watch what i eat. I can't get lower than 12 on ~40 mile a week.

Cheers for that, it'll give me a number to focus on.


Jaysus ML you're lucky there are no girls on this thread "boohoo I can't stop losing weight!" A lot of people would love to be in your predicament.

I had been losing weight like mad and h ave put half a stone on in just over 2 weeks... Currently 14st and want to get down to 12.5. You're best bet is to eat like mad and do some kind of weights programme. If you're playing football you should be doing that anyway I would suggest to keep some lean muscle there and keep the strength up.

Don't want to be turning into skeletor! I'm down from 97kg at the start of 2011 to 80kg now, I don't need or want to be getting any lower, wouldn't look right for someone who is 6ft. One of my mates is around the same height and went from 15 to 11 stone in the last couple of years, just looks gaunt and run down.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2013, 11:32:33 AM
Ml you hit about 100 calories a mile so you should eat 2.5 k plus 100 x no of miles to sustain weight...

The main time you lose the weight with the running is when the long runs go 1.5 - 2 hours.

I would be like mr and don't really watch what i eat. I can't get lower than 12 on ~40 mile a week.

Cheers for that, it'll give me a number to focus on.


Jaysus ML you're lucky there are no girls on this thread "boohoo I can't stop losing weight!" A lot of people would love to be in your predicament.

I had been losing weight like mad and h ave put half a stone on in just over 2 weeks... Currently 14st and want to get down to 12.5. You're best bet is to eat like mad and do some kind of weights programme. If you're playing football you should be doing that anyway I would suggest to keep some lean muscle there and keep the strength up.

Don't want to be turning into skeletor! I'm down from 97kg at the start of 2011 to 80kg now, I don't need or want to be getting any lower, wouldn't look right for someone who is 6ft. One of my mates is around the same height and went from 15 to 11 stone in the last couple of years, just looks gaunt and run down.

Most decent runners do have problems with weight, for losing fat it's the best exercise going i think. It's a balancing act as Tommy says, get plenty of protein on board with fibre and carbohydrates and you'll be grand. Pig out after a big session is great, not only for the body but for the mind, a nice reward for putting in the effort.

Minder, the trainers at the gym I go too charge £35 a hour session, majority of the ones with trainers look as if they need to lose weight but I never see them on a treadmill, crosstrainer, bike or a rowing machine, they come in every week and he has them doing weights!!! Now unless these people are doing their own thing somewhere else or whatever, they never lose any fat!!

The trainer in my opinion wouldn't get any work off someone if he told them the best way to lose the fat is to go on a running machine and put the effort in. I think they are conning people, now they also train lads/girls who are fit looking and they are doing great work with them, with the weights and stuff but that's what the customer is looking I'd say
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on January 07, 2013, 12:17:31 PM

I was down to 72 ks there before Christmas. From a high of about 82 about 4 years ago. Lightest and fittest I ve been in years.

Strange thing is that a blood test recently showed my cholestrol had gone up!

Putting it down to all the stuff I was craving with the marathon training - mars bars, cheese etc?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 07, 2013, 01:16:54 PM
Ml you hit about 100 calories a mile so you should eat 2.5 k plus 100 x no of miles to sustain weight...

The main time you lose the weight with the running is when the long runs go 1.5 - 2 hours.

I would be like mr and don't really watch what i eat. I can't get lower than 12 on ~40 mile a week.

Cheers for that, it'll give me a number to focus on.


Jaysus ML you're lucky there are no girls on this thread "boohoo I can't stop losing weight!" A lot of people would love to be in your predicament.

I had been losing weight like mad and h ave put half a stone on in just over 2 weeks... Currently 14st and want to get down to 12.5. You're best bet is to eat like mad and do some kind of weights programme. If you're playing football you should be doing that anyway I would suggest to keep some lean muscle there and keep the strength up.

Don't want to be turning into skeletor! I'm down from 97kg at the start of 2011 to 80kg now, I don't need or want to be getting any lower, wouldn't look right for someone who is 6ft. One of my mates is around the same height and went from 15 to 11 stone in the last couple of years, just looks gaunt and run down.

You could get down to 75kg ya fat c**t  😄

I'm the same height and would like to dip below the 12 st mark, esp for the bike
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 07, 2013, 01:19:47 PM

I was down to 72 ks there before Christmas. From a high of about 82 about 4 years ago. Lightest and fittest I ve been in years.

Strange thing is that a blood test recently showed my cholestrol had gone up!

Putting it down to all the stuff I was craving with the marathon training - mars bars, cheese etc?

It's something I worry about, a lot of eggs etc
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on January 07, 2013, 02:01:52 PM
Ml you hit about 100 calories a mile so you should eat 2.5 k plus 100 x no of miles to sustain weight...

The main time you lose the weight with the running is when the long runs go 1.5 - 2 hours.

I would be like mr and don't really watch what i eat. I can't get lower than 12 on ~40 mile a week.

Cheers for that, it'll give me a number to focus on.


Jaysus ML you're lucky there are no girls on this thread "boohoo I can't stop losing weight!" A lot of people would love to be in your predicament.

I had been losing weight like mad and h ave put half a stone on in just over 2 weeks... Currently 14st and want to get down to 12.5. You're best bet is to eat like mad and do some kind of weights programme. If you're playing football you should be doing that anyway I would suggest to keep some lean muscle there and keep the strength up.

Don't want to be turning into skeletor! I'm down from 97kg at the start of 2011 to 80kg now, I don't need or want to be getting any lower, wouldn't look right for someone who is 6ft. One of my mates is around the same height and went from 15 to 11 stone in the last couple of years, just looks gaunt and run down.

You could get down to 75kg ya fat c**t  😄

I'm the same height and would like to dip below the 12 st mark, esp for the bike

Fcuk all of ye anyway!!! I'm 6'1 and currently 86kg (Having been close to the 100kg before). If I got down to the 13st it would be my everest. Never mind 12st. My current weight feels pretty natural I don't think going below 12st would make sense!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2013, 02:29:05 PM

I was down to 72 ks there before Christmas. From a high of about 82 about 4 years ago. Lightest and fittest I ve been in years.

Strange thing is that a blood test recently showed my cholestrol had gone up!

Putting it down to all the stuff I was craving with the marathon training - mars bars, cheese etc?

It's something I worry about, a lot of eggs etc

Show on TV the other day where a girl had 4 eggs a day for four weeks, apparently you have good and bad cholestrol and after the 4 weeks there was no difference in her bad cholestrol at all.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 07, 2013, 02:34:41 PM
I started running about 16 months ago, have never weighed myself in that time, I don't know what weight I am now or when I started. In that time I've been weighed 3 times but have never looked or asked what weight I am.

Not sure why or that and I know I have lost weight but it really wasn't about losing weight for me. I knew I would if i stuck at it but I see it as an added bonus and all part of the reward. That sounds very corny but just the way I see it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 07, 2013, 02:37:52 PM
I thought if I got to 80kgs I'd be happy, which I am but I can still see where I could lose an extra few kg
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Canalman on January 07, 2013, 03:31:00 PM
From what I have been told ............... losing an inch from the waist is roughly  equal to losing a stone of weight.
Have probably posted this before but the best weight loss advice  I was given is to always have apples in the house and to try and eat one if the munchies strike late at night or in the evening.

Anyone who has ever played a team sport should easily have the discipline to lose weight imho. Problem is the difficulty in  now doing it all on your own and not as part of a team.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on January 07, 2013, 09:39:58 PM
A couple of things,  i have gone from nearly 15 stone, down to 13.5 now, this is in the space of 7 months of running. I have to say i wouldn't like to lose any more anymore.

Over the Christmas, i went against all my objectives and am thinking of doing a marathon in 2014 i'd say. I am up to 12 miles a week, 2 boot camps and one hour spinning.

Are marathons tough out, i personally feel i have good distance in my legs, but my speed is slow, so i guess a marathon would suit me. I can do 7 miles (11.5 K) on the flat in just under the hour, and 9k seriously uphill road in 45-47 mins.

Any advice to get the ball rolling. Thanks

Finally, taking up serious exercise is the best thing i have ever done!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on January 07, 2013, 11:48:47 PM

I was down to 72 ks there before Christmas. From a high of about 82 about 4 years ago. Lightest and fittest I ve been in years.

Strange thing is that a blood test recently showed my cholestrol had gone up!

Putting it down to all the stuff I was craving with the marathon training - mars bars, cheese etc?

It's something I worry about, a lot of eggs etc

Show on TV the other day where a girl had 4 eggs a day for four weeks, apparently you have good and bad cholestrol and after the 4 weeks there was no difference in her bad cholestrol at all.

That s the thing. Eggs got a bad press for years but in recent years there has been a review.

I don t eat much eggs - even though I ve ducks, quails, hens, geese around the place. But I d eat no more than 2 eggs a week because of the scary press about eggs in the past. Apparently duck eggs are even better for the good cholestrol bad cop balance. Provided they are fresh and need maybe to be cooked a bit harder - ducks tend to lay their eggs in muck! So samonella always flagged though I ve never come accross it. And bakers know that duck eggs are way better.

A goose egg of course is a rare treat - and as good as a fillet steak!

Here sausages and pork have always been seen as a cholestrol problem - but in France, lamb fat is considered worse. Steak being least threatening.

The worst of course is cheese, cakes and any bars and chocs.

As it happens my good cholestrol is very good but the bad creep has ........ well ......crept in.

I ll get back to ye about this after I have next test with the help of God. Already I have suspicions that what that you should eat is more important as the bad stuff you do eat.

You Must Eat; Porridge, Loads of 'fresh' fruit. Apparently the 'apple- a - day' thing was more than a rhyme - makes sense, people brought apples everywhere. Like we did with things that were good for us.  And veg. Nuts and seeds if ye can get them. And as many wild mushrooms as you can find. For pure taste.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 07, 2013, 11:51:55 PM
Gaelgoir, hate to break it to u but ur doing the same pace on the flat as u are on the seriously uphill!

It sounds like ur flying it, a marathon in 2013 would be well within ur reach. I'd recommend joining a running club, speed track sessions, hill sessions will all bring you on heaps coupled with stretching out the longer runs over time
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 08, 2013, 09:26:29 AM
A couple of things,  i have gone from nearly 15 stone, down to 13.5 now, this is in the space of 7 months of running. I have to say i wouldn't like to lose any more anymore.

Over the Christmas, i went against all my objectives and am thinking of doing a marathon in 2014 i'd say. I am up to 12 miles a week, 2 boot camps and one hour spinning.

Are marathons tough out, i personally feel i have good distance in my legs, but my speed is slow, so i guess a marathon would suit me. I can do 7 miles (11.5 K) on the flat in just under the hour, and 9k seriously uphill road in 45-47 mins.

Any advice to get the ball rolling. Thanks

Finally, taking up serious exercise is the best thing i have ever done!

As Mayo4sam has said you are bang for a Marathon this year never mind 2014. This time last year, i was where you are now. Had a few months running done and my times were decent, just ahead of yourself but it was clear that the miles where in the legs with a bit of encouragement.

Last spring I stepped up the variation in the runs - hill work, intervals and added a few miles to the runs, kept the frequency going. I still hadn't looked at doing a marathon. In the summer I started doing longer runs with a half marathon thrown in and it went well and decided I'd do Dublin. About 3 months out, i used one of Hal Hidgons training plans for the marathon and used that to hit the long runs.

Worked well and I done Dublin last October. You're well on the run to doing one this year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on January 08, 2013, 07:19:15 PM
I started the couch-2-5k last summer, from basiacally zero fitness,  and eventually got there. Prior to Christmas i was doing 3 or 4 5k runs a week.

I've done 5 already since the start of the year and am hoping to do 30 in jan, i'll have to do a double run some days to catch up. I'm splitting the runs between treadmill/roads and can do 27 mins outdoor. I'm hoping to get that below 25 by the end of the month.

As well as the running i also had a massive overhaul of my diet. I was tipping 17st at the start( 5ft 10) and am now just below 14st. I cut out 95% of my beer/cider intake and stick to the spirits now. Crisps, takeaways and other rubbish foods have gone too.

For this year i want to get min under 25mins for 5k and under 60mins for 10k. A half marathon would be the biggest of my aims at the minute, possibly later in the year with a 10k done around April time.

I find the 5k's ok but dont feel i have that much more in me. Yet. Smoking doesn't help but i'm aiming to cut those down too before phasing them out completely.

One problem i do have which has only started recently and only happens outdoors is that i get a bad stictch after a few k that can stay with me, come and go or go completely. It affects my times obviously and sometimes gets so bad that i have to stop before starting up again. I don't eat too much or too close to running or drink any fizzy drinks so not sure whats the reason. Any of you pro's have any ideas?

Also, although the 30 5k's a month sounds good on paper and is definately achievable for me, am i better off changing methods to get quicker times and longer distances?

Sorry for the long winded post but you brought it on yourselves by talking about running so much and keeping me motivated since the summer!!

Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2013, 08:41:09 PM
I started the couch-2-5k last summer, from basiacally zero fitness,  and eventually got there. Prior to Christmas i was doing 3 or 4 5k runs a week.

I've done 5 already since the start of the year and am hoping to do 30 in jan, i'll have to do a double run some days to catch up. I'm splitting the runs between treadmill/roads and can do 27 mins outdoor. I'm hoping to get that below 25 by the end of the month.

As well as the running i also had a massive overhaul of my diet. I was tipping 17st at the start( 5ft 10) and am now just below 14st. I cut out 95% of my beer/cider intake and stick to the spirits now. Crisps, takeaways and other rubbish foods have gone too.

For this year i want to get min under 25mins for 5k and under 60mins for 10k. A half marathon would be the biggest of my aims at the minute, possibly later in the year with a 10k done around April time.

I find the 5k's ok but dont feel i have that much more in me. Yet. Smoking doesn't help but i'm aiming to cut those down too before phasing them out completely.

One problem i do have which has only started recently and only happens outdoors is that i get a bad stictch after a few k that can stay with me, come and go or go completely. It affects my times obviously and sometimes gets so bad that i have to stop before starting up again. I don't eat too much or too close to running or drink any fizzy drinks so not sure whats the reason. Any of you pro's have any ideas?

Also, although the 30 5k's a month sounds good on paper and is definately achievable for me, am i better off changing methods to get quicker times and longer distances?

Sorry for the long winded post but you brought it on yourselves by talking about running so much and keeping me motivated since the summer!!

Any help would be appreciated.

Poor warm up or going too fast at the start, theres a good link below to the BBC health page and it has a couple of theories. Been very lucky to not get them but I'd say stay off the fags and spirits while running :P

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/health_and_fitness/4275830.stm

That's good running from zero fitness and the weight you were dealing with. All that stuff you have said is very achievable I'd say. Just keep her lit!!

If you feel you have nothing in you after 5K next night try 6K and just build it up from there
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 08, 2013, 09:16:30 PM
I started the couch-2-5k last summer, from basiacally zero fitness,  and eventually got there. Prior to Christmas i was doing 3 or 4 5k runs a week.

I've done 5 already since the start of the year and am hoping to do 30 in jan, i'll have to do a double run some days to catch up. I'm splitting the runs between treadmill/roads and can do 27 mins outdoor. I'm hoping to get that below 25 by the end of the month.

As well as the running i also had a massive overhaul of my diet. I was tipping 17st at the start( 5ft 10) and am now just below 14st. I cut out 95% of my beer/cider intake and stick to the spirits now. Crisps, takeaways and other rubbish foods have gone too.

For this year i want to get min under 25mins for 5k and under 60mins for 10k. A half marathon would be the biggest of my aims at the minute, possibly later in the year with a 10k done around April time.

I find the 5k's ok but dont feel i have that much more in me. Yet. Smoking doesn't help but i'm aiming to cut those down too before phasing them out completely.

One problem i do have which has only started recently and only happens outdoors is that i get a bad stictch after a few k that can stay with me, come and go or go completely. It affects my times obviously and sometimes gets so bad that i have to stop before starting up again. I don't eat too much or too close to running or drink any fizzy drinks so not sure whats the reason. Any of you pro's have any ideas?

Also, although the 30 5k's a month sounds good on paper and is definately achievable for me, am i better off changing methods to get quicker times and longer distances?

Sorry for the long winded post but you brought it on yourselves by talking about running so much and keeping me motivated since the summer!!

Any help would be appreciated.

Good man D, fair play you're well on the track to better times and longer runs. I'd push the length of the runs out a bit, push to 6km on regular basis, even if it means slowing down and not worrying about the time as much.

I'd also give yourself a goal and find a local 5km race at the end of January, you'll always nail your time in a race and take time off your training run if you approach it right.

Not sure on the stitches. One of lucky runners here told me to stretch your side when running if the stitch appears but I've not had the problem. I'm told its often something you eat ahead of the run but not much help.

You've a right bit done and could look at varying the runs to help the speed work if you looking to stay at the distance - hill runs, interval runs etc. but I'd build up the distance first.

No big deal for you quiting the beer or cider as you could drink none anyway!!  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 08, 2013, 11:52:12 PM
Bamboo, like the lads said I'd look at pushing one of those runs a week out, slow the pace and add maybe 1k every week, or whatever u feel comfortable with, don't time it just concentrate on getting the distance, just a light jog is good but crank up the k's.

The other thing I'd suggest is intervals, so ur looking for 5min/k in the race, so maybe try 5-6mins at 5:30/5:45 pace, then 2/3 mins of walking or if ur able a light jog, repeat that maybe once, twice if ur able. Obviously warm up before. Do that once a week and try and build up to 12/15mins x 3, you'll be flying.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 08, 2013, 11:53:19 PM
Oh and give up the f**king fags!
Nine years ago this week for me, by far the best decision I ever made
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on January 09, 2013, 09:52:43 PM
Thanks for the replies and the messages lads, (apart from Bingo who's a knob!), will try and take it all on board.

Done a fairly slow and easy 5k on the 'mill today, legs were heavy to be honest, but will be back on the roads in the morning and will try and slow it down a bit and stretch it out to 6k min. When you guys speak of a proper warm up what exactly are you talking about? I do the basic simple stretches but that's about it.

There's actually a parkrun set up a mile up the road and i've registered along with 2 mates and we're hoping to get going regularly from Feb onwards. They're off on hols at the minute but i'll probably try one out this month, poss this Saturday if i feel up for it. There's an average of 160 go there weekly and the slowest times are around the 40 min mark so i'm fairly optimistic that i won't be last!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2013, 11:07:12 PM
Thanks for the replies and the messages lads, (apart from Bingo who's a knob!), will try and take it all on board.

Done a fairly slow and easy 5k on the 'mill today, legs were heavy to be honest, but will be back on the roads in the morning and will try and slow it down a bit and stretch it out to 6k min. When you guys speak of a proper warm up what exactly are you talking about? I do the basic simple stretches but that's about it.

There's actually a parkrun set up a mile up the road and i've registered along with 2 mates and we're hoping to get going regularly from Feb onwards. They're off on hols at the minute but i'll probably try one out this month, poss this Saturday if i feel up for it. There's an average of 160 go there weekly and the slowest times are around the 40 min mark so i'm fairly optimistic that i won't be last!

A basic warm up would be a gentle jog and stretch before you actually start your 5K, then you can set your watch and time it from there. The park run warm up is usually a 1 k run before you start, hard to do when you have an early start in this weather but fairly opens the lungs and heart rate is going.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on January 09, 2013, 11:38:04 PM
Sky 145 now, 250km run across sahara desert
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on January 10, 2013, 12:28:55 AM
I started the couch-2-5k last summer, from basiacally zero fitness,  and eventually got there. Prior to Christmas i was doing 3 or 4 5k runs a week.

I've done 5 already since the start of the year and am hoping to do 30 in jan, i'll have to do a double run some days to catch up. I'm splitting the runs between treadmill/roads and can do 27 mins outdoor. I'm hoping to get that below 25 by the end of the month.

As well as the running i also had a massive overhaul of my diet. I was tipping 17st at the start( 5ft 10) and am now just below 14st. I cut out 95% of my beer/cider intake and stick to the spirits now. Crisps, takeaways and other rubbish foods have gone too.

For this year i want to get min under 25mins for 5k and under 60mins for 10k. A half marathon would be the biggest of my aims at the minute, possibly later in the year with a 10k done around April time.

I find the 5k's ok but dont feel i have that much more in me. Yet. Smoking doesn't help but i'm aiming to cut those down too before phasing them out completely.

One problem i do have which has only started recently and only happens outdoors is that i get a bad stictch after a few k that can stay with me, come and go or go completely. It affects my times obviously and sometimes gets so bad that i have to stop before starting up again. I don't eat too much or too close to running or drink any fizzy drinks so not sure whats the reason. Any of you pro's have any ideas?

Also, although the 30 5k's a month sounds good on paper and is definately achievable for me, am i better off changing methods to get quicker times and longer distances?

Sorry for the long winded post but you brought it on yourselves by talking about running so much and keeping me motivated since the summer!!

Any help would be appreciated.

Poor warm up or going too fast at the start, theres a good link below to the BBC health page and it has a couple of theories. Been very lucky to not get them but I'd say stay off the fags and spirits while running :P
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/health_and_fitness/4275830.stm

That's good running from zero fitness and the weight you were dealing with. All that stuff you have said is very achievable I'd say. Just keep her lit!!

If you feel you have nothing in you after 5K next night try 6K and just build it up from there

Easier said than done. At least the man is sticking with it and its better to do a bit while still having a drink and a smoke than not doing anything at all. Gradual change is more likely to succeed.
 The stitch is just lack of fitness and that will resolve itself with time and increased fitness.
If you Bamboo want too lose a few more pounds then long slower runs will serve you better. You re stitching because you re looking at times you are not able to do yet.  Forget about 5 K targets and that shite and just get to enjoy running. You ll beat yourself up otherwis and then end up leaving it there and end up drinking more scrumpy than ever. Do some lonnng slowww runs. Thats the way to burn fat and you ll get a better buzz from it too. Go for an hour and forget the distance and build from there. Put in some faster, shorter ones if you have to. But running slower for longer is what you need to be doing now. If you get that right then the 5, 10k and half marathon will happen. Can t rush it. And you can still have the odd pint and burn as well.
 Also try to run in a group if you can. It s better fun and more likely to stick it longterm.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 10, 2013, 08:54:22 AM
Some of ye more experienced running lads might be able to answer this.
I'm looking to do a sub 20min 5k, if I'm doing 12x400m on the track with half the run time as a rest, ie 90sec 400m, 45 sec rest. What sort of times do I need to get to for this.
There may or may not be a straight forward answer to this!
Cheers
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 10, 2013, 09:21:28 AM
Some of ye more experienced running lads might be able to answer this.
I'm looking to do a sub 20min 5k, if I'm doing 12x400m on the track with half the run time as a rest, ie 90sec 400m, 45 sec rest. What sort of times do I need to get to for this.
There may or may not be a straight forward answer to this!
Cheers

I've broke 20mins once and came close on several other occasions.

When I was doing the 400m reps i was averaging round 1.30m - 1.35m for time. My recovery was 400m again, never walked, always light jog. I was told by someone more experienced to do it at a pace that will ensure the first run is the same as the last run and all in between are same, so consistancy if the key for each rep.

I' have Reps tonight but the group is using a different approach - 2mins on, 2mins off. I'll set my own target for the 2mins in that and try and hit it everytime.

I'd be fairly inexperienced and some others may know more but I'd think at those times you'd be close to sub 20m.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on January 10, 2013, 09:32:47 AM
Some of ye more experienced running lads might be able to answer this.
I'm looking to do a sub 20min 5k, if I'm doing 12x400m on the track with half the run time as a rest, ie 90sec 400m, 45 sec rest. What sort of times do I need to get to for this.
There may or may not be a straight forward answer to this!
Cheers
That would be on course for a sub 20 if you were able to rull out 12x400m in 90 seconds and then 45 seconds of a rest. Try to have the first and last interval at the same pace, even spread throughout the session. I'd mix a few 1KM interval sessions too if you can...Bit of a fartlek would be helpful too..1On/30seconds off....2Mins On/1 Off....3Mins On/2 Off(Killer of a session), bit of a change rather than doing all track work.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 10, 2013, 09:34:58 AM
What I've done in the past and it's worked well is to work off 2 minutes.

400s should be race pace - for a 20 minute 5k bang on this would be 96 seconds. So you should do 96 for your 400(+/-1 second) and rest for 24 seconds then repeat this. Start at 8 or so and build up to about 16. You should be reasonably comfortable with these.

An alternative would be 3 x 1 mile with about 90 seconds rest in between at race pace. You'll get this tight in the last rep particularly.

Both the above should work well. 24 seconds maybe doesn't sound like much but you've got no breaks in your race... (6:24 or so would be your mile time)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 10, 2013, 10:16:02 AM
I'm not doing all track just that was the session on Tuesday and its fresh in my mind, was doing 92/93 consistently for all 12 off 2:15, so close!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on January 13, 2013, 01:15:16 PM
Took you boys advice and set on Thursday for a run at a pace that was barely a light jog with the intention of seeing could i go for an hour and hopefully get min. 6k in. Ended up doing 10k in 1hr 07mins which i was more than happy with so thanks for that. Felt as though i could've kept going but decided not to be a hero just yet!

Took part in the parkrun yesterday. Rained overnight in London so course was very muddy and slippery underfoot, lots of people fell and there was a lot of jostling and people cutting you up as they tried to avoid puddles,mud etc. Ground was really heavy and i got round in 29mins flat which wasn't great but at least it's a starting point.

333 people took part, an exact split of 2:1 in favour of males. I finished in pos.219. I'm pretty sure the numbers will dwindle as the weeks go by so should be a more enjoyable run. Quite a few courses round the area so will try out a few different ones over the next few months.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 13, 2013, 02:32:22 PM
Did six miles earlier today. Had my GPS watch on so was checking pace. 45 mins flat. Was chuffed and noticed my pace was quicker a mile in. Thats me getting ready for the Larne half marathon.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 19, 2013, 01:14:22 PM
I would use garmin hrm. If you do a lot of gymwork check the equipment and you should be able to get the heart rate monitor with no watch. Depends on frequencies...

As far as polar watches go i don't know much about them. I was considering a garmin 610 but on reading reviews they seem to use cheap metal that brings a lot of peoples wrists out. In a rash. :-\
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Karl Kennedy on January 19, 2013, 02:36:57 PM
Basically I am after a polar HRM with GPS that records my distance covered, HR while running.

I also want to be able to use it in gym or even during circuits to be aware of how hard I am working by looking at my HR.

I have had a basic Polar watch before so it's time to upgrade.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 19, 2013, 08:53:18 PM
The Garmin is a great job, I use the HRM for turbo training.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 21, 2013, 11:10:17 AM
Never used anything other than a Garmin and have had no bother including the battery, easy to charge overnight.

Getting a few good runs in this weather, building up again for the marathon in April. Weather not great for it, it that the roads are a no-no but managing on the track and in the local forest park.

Actually ran yesterday morning with a blind man (95% - has lost his vision over the years, he payed football in his day) vision, I ran as his guide, was first time doing it and we had a great run, just over 5 miles round a loop route in the local park. His memory is top class and he was familiar with part of the run and was able to adjust before i called it. A very strong runner who ran Dublin marathon on 3.19 this year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on January 21, 2013, 12:46:52 PM
I slogged around the Waterworks Parkrun on Saturday. Was anyone else from here, there?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on January 21, 2013, 01:07:08 PM
Not me this time - made the decision on Fri night that I wasn't getting up for it when I saw the snow.
Bro in law did it, said he couldn't really get going but he did a pretty decent time (for him).
I did, however, beat my parkrun PB on the running machine in the gym  :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2013, 01:43:53 PM
Fair weather runner me self!!

Like Rois I also went to the gym and stayed away from the snowy paths of the Waterworks, will be giving them a pounding in Feb though.

Was there a good crowd braving the weather?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 21, 2013, 01:50:34 PM
I did the queens one on saturday. There's a lot of corners in it so the snow slows you down a bit.

70 odd did the waterworks so not bad considering. 30 odd did queens.

Friday was horrendous for running but it has been grand since then. Just back from a run on the towpath and it's perfectly fine to run on.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on January 21, 2013, 02:37:17 PM
I was wondering about footwear and running in the snow - I bought a pair of nice Salomon shoes in the summer for hiking that were described as a cross between a trail running shoe and an approach shoe.  Would they be the right things to wear if there was snow on the ground?  The FB page mentioned trail shoes on Fri  night so I was half tempted to give them a go but didn't want to look like a numpty who was running in hiking shoes.  They are pretty light so thought they might be OK - any thoughts? 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on January 21, 2013, 02:50:55 PM
A lot of people there would probably be wearing those kind of shoes anyway Rois so I wouldn't say you've anything to worry about.

They're the kind of shoes people would tend to wear running up mountains etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 21, 2013, 03:07:00 PM
On any kind of uneven, hilly, muddy, slushy, dirty trails or surfaces I wear a pair of Aiscs Trail shoes/runners - sole is hard but soft enough to run it. They great in this weather and I used them at weekend. Never failed with them.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on January 21, 2013, 10:55:55 PM
Doing the Malahide Parkrun on Saturday, first shot at breaking 20, have given myself until mid-march to do it but would like to get it out of the way early! Feel like I should be there or there abouts, hopefully there's no snow, just nice and crisp
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on January 22, 2013, 06:11:20 PM
On any kind of uneven, hilly, muddy, slushy, dirty trails or surfaces I wear a pair of Aiscs Trail shoes/runners - sole is hard but soft enough to run it. They great in this weather and I used them at weekend. Never failed with them.

Am off the running this week, damaged muscles behind my shin last week, doing a 10 miler, hurts like f**k....went to the physio this morning, just a strain but it needs a weeks rest, i went to a a major sports chain last week and they did a "video analysis" of my run, they recommended a pair of runners with Arch support...... The physio told me i don't need arch support and the runners recommended were totally wrong for my feet. She claimed that a lot of sports shops are changing peoples footwear based on a video....... bringing back the shoes tomorrow and getting a different pair..........God help the "running expert" if she is there tomorrow, lesson learned by me...........
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on January 22, 2013, 10:19:01 PM
Longest run ever done tonight, 12.4km in 1hr 4mins 33.

Might be doing the Carlingford half marathon at being of March so need to up training.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on January 22, 2013, 10:27:48 PM
Good running ML, keep her lit.

I've done 4 x 10k's over the last few weeks, 1:07:27, 1:06:03, 1:05:22 and todays was 1hr and 36 secs so i'm almost at the 1hr mark. Signed up for a 10k organised run/race with a few mates in early march so hoping to shave a few mins of the time before that comes around.

Done my 2nd 5k parkrun in the snow covered grounds of Wimbledon common on Sat and took 90 secs of my previous week, done it in 27m:29s, pos 147/213. Despite the snow, it was a better surface to run on than the previous weeks mud.

Still getting a stitch on a regular basis, more so in the 5k's than the 10k's. Probably as i'm pushing myself that bit harder. ran a slow 1k and did plenty of stretching before the 5k but still got it, between the 2k and 3k mark, then it disappeared. Annoying as it definatly slows me down and is costing me time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on January 22, 2013, 10:43:25 PM
Longest run ever done tonight, 12.4km in 1hr 4mins 33.

Might be doing the Carlingford half marathon at being of March so need to up training.

We aren't far apart. I knocked over my longest run ever at the weekend. 15.4k in about 1.14. I'm going for the Newry half marathon in May. At least I know it's flat. Carlingford has to involve severe slopes.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on January 22, 2013, 10:54:40 PM
Keep her lit too bambo.

A stitch could be down to fitness, but I always found it was down to the fact that I hadnt fasted for long enough. Do you still get a stich if you run first thing in the morning before breakfast?

Of course everyone is different.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on January 22, 2013, 10:57:01 PM
Longest run ever done tonight, 12.4km in 1hr 4mins 33.

Might be doing the Carlingford half marathon at being of March so need to up training.

We aren't far apart. I knocked over my longest run ever at the weekend. 15.4k in about 1.14. I'm going for the Newry half marathon in May. At least I know it's flat. Carlingford has to involve severe slopes.

Carlingford sounds real picturesque. I'd love to do it, but my limit is 3 mile otherwise my legs buckle :-(

Does the Newry half marathon take you up the tow-path or out to Warrenpoint?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on January 22, 2013, 11:01:13 PM
Cheers Orior,

Ran the first parkrun with no breakfast and ran the 2nd one with small breakfast 90mins before so can't blame either fasting or feasting!

Got no stich nor did i feel like i needed a drink during my 1st few 10ks as i was going at a slighter slower pace i guess but had a stitch and needed a sip during the run today. When i say a sip i literally mean a sip, barely a mouthful.

Can't remember having any issues when i started out running back in the summer so i'm assuming it's down to the fact that i'm doing  a lot more now and pushing myself that bit harder. Who knows??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on January 23, 2013, 07:57:13 AM
Longest run ever done tonight, 12.4km in 1hr 4mins 33.

Might be doing the Carlingford half marathon at being of March so need to up training.

We aren't far apart. I knocked over my longest run ever at the weekend. 15.4k in about 1.14. I'm going for the Newry half marathon in May. At least I know it's flat. Carlingford has to involve severe slopes.

Carlingford sounds real picturesque. I'd love to do it, but my limit is 3 mile otherwise my legs buckle :-(

Does the Newry half marathon take you up the tow-path or out to Warrenpoint?

From what I remember it's more or less out to Poyntspass and back, with a lot of it on the tow path. Not much to look at along there, but at least it's gentle.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on January 24, 2013, 12:14:39 PM
On any kind of uneven, hilly, muddy, slushy, dirty trails or surfaces I wear a pair of Aiscs Trail shoes/runners - sole is hard but soft enough to run it. They great in this weather and I used them at weekend. Never failed with them.

Am off the running this week, damaged muscles behind my shin last week, doing a 10 miler, hurts like f**k....went to the physio this morning, just a strain but it needs a weeks rest, i went to a a major sports chain last week and they did a "video analysis" of my run, they recommended a pair of runners with Arch support...... The physio told me i don't need arch support and the runners recommended were totally wrong for my feet. She claimed that a lot of sports shops are changing peoples footwear based on a video....... bringing back the shoes tomorrow and getting a different pair..........God help the "running expert" if she is there tomorrow, lesson learned by me...........

So i want back to the runner store again yesterday, was met with a very sceptical "running expert", no way would we have given you the wrong runners blah, blah...... got the manager involved and it turned out the my running gait was assessed first time around, by  girl who works on Saturday and was not qualified to give any advice, they did another assessment in-store yesterday and it turned out i do not require any correction what so ever, my gain is spot on  >:(............ then everyone was all apologies, this never happened before etc.,
Long and short of it, the high arch support in the shoe, kept slightly twisting my ankle out as i ran and has resulted in a  tear of a muscle along the outside of my shin........... more physio required and a long lay-off.................am raging............ the manager told me to take it up with customer service at HQ and demand a full refund on physio costs etc...............

Damn right they will be hearing from me!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on January 24, 2013, 12:41:16 PM
Thats very disappointing An Gaeilgoir, no way should she have been giving advice.

I got great service in elverys when i went in. I was having problems at the time, more so after running that during it. She identified the problem and a pair of shoes to held the problem, haven't had the same issue since, great support in the shoes I use and Gel support.

I'd feel the difference when I run in my trail runners, a far flater shoe with no gel support.

Fair play Bamboo, keep her lit and you'll be flying in the races in no time.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 24, 2013, 12:43:41 PM
On any kind of uneven, hilly, muddy, slushy, dirty trails or surfaces I wear a pair of Aiscs Trail shoes/runners - sole is hard but soft enough to run it. They great in this weather and I used them at weekend. Never failed with them.

Am off the running this week, damaged muscles behind my shin last week, doing a 10 miler, hurts like f**k....went to the physio this morning, just a strain but it needs a weeks rest, i went to a a major sports chain last week and they did a "video analysis" of my run, they recommended a pair of runners with Arch support...... The physio told me i don't need arch support and the runners recommended were totally wrong for my feet. She claimed that a lot of sports shops are changing peoples footwear based on a video....... bringing back the shoes tomorrow and getting a different pair..........God help the "running expert" if she is there tomorrow, lesson learned by me...........

So i want back to the runner store again yesterday, was met with a very sceptical "running expert", no way would we have given you the wrong runners blah, blah...... got the manager involved and it turned out the my running gait was assessed first time around, by  girl who works on Saturday and was not qualified to give any advice, they did another assessment in-store yesterday and it turned out i do not require any correction what so ever, my gain is spot on  >:(............ then everyone was all apologies, this never happened before etc.,
Long and short of it, the high arch support in the shoe, kept slightly twisting my ankle out as i ran and has resulted in a  tear of a muscle along the outside of my shin........... more physio required and a long lay-off.................am raging............ the manager told me to take it up with customer service at HQ and demand a full refund on physio costs etc...............

Damn right they will be hearing from me!

That's serious craic, you'd be raging (well you are :o). I'm sceptical of those gait machines anyway and wouldn't bother with them I know my own body and whta's good and what's not, in terms of comfort and if there is something bothering me.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 01, 2013, 08:21:32 PM
Who's for doing the Waterworks tomorrow? Weather seems good, might give it a blast tomorrow, had calf strain last week but managed to run yesterday so hopefully be grand
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on February 01, 2013, 08:23:40 PM
Not me - golfing!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 02, 2013, 12:40:35 PM
Missed this - I did it this morn. Found it tough, have had a cold for about a month now and the breathing was rubbish for me. But still, great crowd at it.

Did you go yourself MR?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2013, 12:57:00 PM
Missed this - I did it this morn. Found it tough, have had a cold for about a month now and the breathing was rubbish for me. But still, great crowd at it.

Did you go yourself MR?

Aye did it and forgot to time my self at the start, though I hit it after a minute I think. think I've beat my PB. was some crowd at it, thought it ws going to be dodgy with ice but fair play to the organisers who must have been out with salt on the path.

Edit: Just seen my time, knocked 53 seconds off my last timed event!!! Well chuffed only a minute and few seconds to go for my under 20 minute mark, though looking how I run today I'm wondering how I'll get it!!

Calf was tight on the last pond run but don't think it made a difference
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 02, 2013, 10:18:10 PM
Brilliant! 53 secs?

I had a rubbish time. Position 95. Need to start changing something to start getting under 25 mins again.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on February 02, 2013, 10:22:52 PM
Did 15k last Saturday in 1hr29, 12.5k on Tues in 1hr7 and today 15k in 1hr28. Crazy that the extra 2.5k is taking an extra 20mins!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2013, 12:36:30 AM
Brilliant! 53 secs?

I had a rubbish time. Position 95. Need to start changing something to start getting under 25 mins again.

Aye 53 seconds, will see how things go, you get good days and bad days Rois so never worry, i'm under pressure now FFS.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Mayo4Sam on February 04, 2013, 08:21:15 AM
Big crowd at the Malahide Parkrun this Saturday, up to 300 from 200 the previous week.
Took Thursday off this week and manahed to move from 20:26 to 19:39, delighted to have broken the 20 mins
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 04, 2013, 08:34:37 AM
Big crowd at the Malahide Parkrun this Saturday, up to 300 from 200 the previous week.
Took Thursday off this week and manahed to move from 20:26 to 19:39, delighted to have broken the 20 mins
Congrats. Great running!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Billys Boots on February 04, 2013, 09:32:56 AM
Missed this - I did it this morn. Found it tough, have had a cold for about a month now and the breathing was rubbish for me. But still, great crowd at it.

Did you go yourself MR?

Same here Rois - had a cold over Xmas and can't get my breathing back right since.  Was easily doing 8k in 35 mins and looking to move up to 10k - now am struggling with the 8k. 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on February 16, 2013, 04:52:41 PM
Over 1,000 runners took part in Irish parkruns this morn - first time over the 1k. 8 different locations.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on February 16, 2013, 05:24:22 PM
Consistently 300+ at malahide. Must be hard to manage.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on February 18, 2013, 02:07:07 PM
Did my first half Marathon yesterday, 1 h 54 mins. The legs are quare sore today.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: laoislad on February 18, 2013, 02:16:59 PM
Did my first half Marathon yesterday, 1 h 54 mins. The legs are quare sore today.

Lucky for you that you have a quare handy job so  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 25, 2013, 10:04:25 AM
Got the first 20 mile run of year in on Saturday, went well and felt fairly ok after it, held a good pace throughout it and took in some good hills as well. Drove home from finishing point and legs didn't feel so good when i got out of car  ;D Had a good soak in the bath and recovered well. Great to get it done and hopefully get another one in next weekend. Connemara marathon on 7th April.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on February 25, 2013, 06:04:47 PM
After failing to get to 5K last year due to injury, old age and frustration, I started again today.

I ran 1 mile, badly. I am absolutely f*cked.

From now on, can all runners posting here divide their distances by 10 so I don't feel too bad?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on February 25, 2013, 09:14:28 PM
After failing to get to 5K last year due to injury, old age and frustration, I started again today.

I ran 1 mile, badly. I am absolutely f*cked.

From now on, can all runners posting here divide their distances by 10 so I don't feel too bad?

Forget about running fast Muppet. The view from the back of the field is the best...

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Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on February 26, 2013, 01:31:19 PM
This is hilarious...she hasn't a clue who he is? "Have you run before? This isn't your first time?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XjPxsiinop8#!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on February 26, 2013, 02:17:41 PM
This is hilarious...she hasn't a clue who he is? "Have you run before? This isn't your first time?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XjPxsiinop8#!

Seen this doing the rounds on twitter earlier but they've taken it down now. The BBC won't be impressed that the Golden boy is so unknown over the pond.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on February 26, 2013, 04:11:27 PM
This is hilarious...she hasn't a clue who he is? "Have you run before? This isn't your first time?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XjPxsiinop8#!

http://entertainment.ie/wtf/Newscaster-asks-Mo-Farah-Havent-you-run-before/169425.htm
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 01, 2013, 11:50:50 AM
O'Lionaird has a stormer of a run there in the heats of 3000m European indoors, looked easy. Great to see him back flying after what happened in London.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on March 02, 2013, 11:18:40 PM
Did Carlingford half marathon this morning, time was 1hr53, happy with that with less than ideal prep. Great circuit and great to have first race out of the way.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on March 03, 2013, 04:56:52 PM
Been doing training runs almost daily and doing various weekly parkruns in London since the turn of the year(missed last weekend) and signed up for a 10k in Brockwell Pk this morning, it's near Brixton for those familiar with the area.

Decided to do the parkrun there yesterday to get a feel for the place and made a nice discovery: it's hilly as f*ck!!

Ran the 5k in a PB so far of 24:25 and finished the 10k this morning in 51:50 so more than happy with both. 6 of us done the 10k and i finished 2nd so very pleased with my weekends work. One mate who's a regular runner reckons it's the toughest 10k he's done so that gives me hope for the future.

Gonna keep up with the parkruns on top of regular training runs and have signed up for another 10k on Easter Sunday in Richmond Park. There's rumours that the runners will get Easter eggs :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tyroneman on March 03, 2013, 05:28:46 PM
Can anyone recommend a physio in the north that specialises in running injuries?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: PadraicHenryPearse on March 03, 2013, 05:34:21 PM
My missus is hooked on running last couple of months. I've gone out a lot with her but I'm couple of stone overweight and bit unfit. We do the 5k In under 30 minutes bout 3/5 times a week. Last week I couldn't run more than 2k. Shin splints I think. I use old runners they are not great and I think they maybe what is causing the problem other than being unfit and overweight

Tomorrow I am getting some new runners and looking for some advise. Any Advise would be great. Haven't run in a week and hoping tomorrow night my legs might hold up.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: moysider on March 04, 2013, 11:34:42 AM
Looking to help out a few young lads 13-17 with programmes for shorter track stuff. Rather than make it up as I go along I hope to give them something that will bring them on for competition in May. I m talking from 100 to 800.

Anybody know where I can get stuff. Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: thewobbler on March 04, 2013, 11:38:16 AM
Did Carlingford half marathon this morning, time was 1hr53, happy with that with less than ideal prep. Great circuit and great to have first race out of the way.

Good man, well done. I've been unable to shake a flu/virus thing for the past 4 weeks, and my 10 milers have become 4 milers again -  so I gave it a miss. Sorry to have missed it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on March 05, 2013, 12:35:12 PM
One for the marathon boys here.

If you were planning to do a marathon, assuming that the person has trained to the required standard and has done his longest " long run" by this stage, would this be a feasible option?

29th Sept : Half Marathon
13th Oct : 16 mile road race
20th Oct : Marathon

Yay or Nay?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: screenexile on March 05, 2013, 01:54:34 PM
One for the marathon boys here.

If you were planning to do a marathon, assuming that the person has trained to the required standard and has done his longest " long run" by this stage, would this be a feasible option?

29th Sept : Half Marathon
13th Oct : 16 mile road race
20th Oct : Marathon

Yay or Nay?

I would have thought so... I would even think if you hadn't done anything and just started training now you could go for that itinerary.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 05, 2013, 01:56:30 PM
One for the marathon boys here.

If you were planning to do a marathon, assuming that the person has trained to the required standard and has done his longest " long run" by this stage, would this be a feasible option?

29th Sept : Half Marathon
13th Oct : 16 mile road race
20th Oct : Marathon

Yay or Nay?

I would have thought so... I would even think if you hadn't done anything and just started training now you could go for that itinerary.
I'd ditch the 16 mile road race, should be tapering with a week to go.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on March 05, 2013, 01:59:21 PM
Was just about to ask that Ballinaman.

Seriously thinking of giving it a shot for charity as i have the bug at the minute and i'm afraid if i don't do it now, it may never happen again.

Plus it will keep me focussed throughout the summer drinking season.

Would the 16miler really affect me that much?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 05, 2013, 02:12:17 PM
It would. You would want to be at the top of your game for a marathon. You shouldn't be doing anything like that a week before one.

If you were to do it you shouldn't be racing it that's for sure.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on March 05, 2013, 02:40:19 PM
I certainly wouldn't be racing it i doubt. I'm planning on running the 1st 2 at a leisurely pace. Would have been using it as a final training run if anything.

I'm looking at a few diff options so nothing set in stone yet but the better it sounds on paper, the more money i'm hoping to raise.

As i said, nothings booked yet but was looking a bit of advice from you experienced boyo's.

I really wanna do it. The half will be in windsor, the 16er in Kingston with the marathon being in Amsterdam.

Where better to celebrate such an achievement??
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 05, 2013, 03:54:56 PM
I certainly wouldn't be racing it i doubt. I'm planning on running the 1st 2 at a leisurely pace. Would have been using it as a final training run if anything.

I'm looking at a few diff options so nothing set in stone yet but the better it sounds on paper, the more money i'm hoping to raise.

As i said, nothings booked yet but was looking a bit of advice from you experienced boyo's.

I really wanna do it. The half will be in windsor, the 16er in Kingston with the marathon being in Amsterdam.

Where better to celebrate such an achievement??

Well Bamboo, you got very ambitous very quickly  ;D  ;) Fair play. I'm doing my second one in a few weeks time.

For my first one in Dublin last year, I did very little the last two weeks, don't think i went over 10 miles in any one run and it was all about resting the legs and getting them ready for whats ahead. The weekend before I did very little.

One of the lads you'd know, GM ex-county keeper, did Amsterdam and then did Dublin and had a better time in Dublin. He'd have a few marathons under his belt, so a few big runs can be done before the marathon.

He said Amsterdam is a good marathon with lots doing it but it takes you out of the city and through rural and industrial areas and back in the same way to finish in a sports stadium. Not the big city buzz and crowd support you get in the other marathons including Dublin which is the following week from Amsterdam.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 05, 2013, 04:01:39 PM
I certainly wouldn't be racing it i doubt. I'm planning on running the 1st 2 at a leisurely pace. Would have been using it as a final training run if anything.

I'm looking at a few diff options so nothing set in stone yet but the better it sounds on paper, the more money i'm hoping to raise.

As i said, nothings booked yet but was looking a bit of advice from you experienced boyo's.

I really wanna do it. The half will be in windsor, the 16er in Kingston with the marathon being in Amsterdam.

Where better to celebrate such an achievement??
I'd still think about ditching the 16 mile run the week before, especially prior to your first marathon. You are going to need everything you have in the tank for it. It could destroy you over the last 6 miles in the marathon so best to taper down the week before, something like 7,6,5,4,3,0,0 is what I did before Dublin last year.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on March 05, 2013, 06:47:27 PM
Thanks lads, justified my reasons for posting with all those responses.

So if i was to swap Amsterdam for Dublin i'd be giving myself a better chance of enjoying it is what i'm gathering. I'm reluctant to drop the 16miler as i feel i can get a few people over here on board for that at least. That would give me 2 weeks plus to recover and taper down as recommended. can i get the boards approval for this :) ?

I chose Amsterdam originally as i'd never been there before but in fairness Dublin is a far better option, gives more family and friends a chance to come along and also would have a bigger public crowd to push me along.

Bingo, i haven't been this fit since i was banging in the goals for the Grattans "C" team in St.Marys park on a Sunday morning! I'm addicted at the minute and i want to do this while i still have it in me. I originally started cos i wanted to get in shape for the brothers wedding in a few weeks but never thought i'd enjoy it this much or get in shape so quickly. I'm down to 12st12lb at last weigh in from 17st last Nov!!

I knew that GM was a bit of a runner alright, i wouldn't be anywhere near his standard yet. I'm probably a better goalie though i reckon.

Thanks again lads, be prepared for me to annoy ye a lot more over the coming months for advice etc.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 06, 2013, 11:37:34 AM
Well Bamboo,

Yeah, the 2 week break between 16miler and Dublin would be more realistic but be important not to "race" the 16miler ie forget about time and do it below your race pace or at a pace that is easy on the system. You'd have my vote on that basis.

The crowd in Dublin was brillant last year, very supportive round the whole course and the last few miles will be easier with a few fimilar shouts from the crowd and faces to look out for. I'll even arrange a Blayney Rockets running vest for you  ;)

Banging in goals in St Marys park for the Grattans on Sunday morning?? You must have had a feed of drink in the Spinner the night before and slept out in the dugouts and dreamt that!

Its very addictive alright and doesn't be long paying off. I started the same way and surpirsed myself how well I stayed at it and how far I've gone since. Far from marathons we targetted in the spinner years back!

Good luck with it anyway.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on March 06, 2013, 01:50:16 PM
Thanks B.

Looking forward i'll probably try and get my last big "long run" in between the half and the 16miler. Am i right in thinking that 20miles was your longest pre-marathon? Is this the guideline?

Then the 16 miler will be part of the tapering down process.

I'm coasting through 10k training runs at the minute so will start upping that to 15-20 within the next 6 weeks. Mixing it all up with some 5k interval runs (400m quick, 150 slow) down the local park and some core classes and spin/circuit training down the gym. Doing parkrun every saturday morning and will aim to do a timed 10k every 3 weeks minimum.

Gonna stick to this plan until end of April and then start properly into the longer runs. Is ther one particular training guide you would swear by or do i simply pick one out?

Dublin booked! No turning back now. Will keep it to myself for now but expect fb updates when things start in earnest. You may need to locate the block/unfriend button when that starts!!

Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 09, 2013, 12:16:16 PM
Well bamboo, yeah 20 was as far as I went although I miss judged a route one day and done 21. Dublin is a good marathon, great support round the course I felt last year. Likely will be a good load of us doing it, was 20 odd last year, be 30 this year at current rate.

You fairly moving well, if you enjoying it, that's more than half the battle.

Pushed out a very tough 20 this morning taking in a huge hill that climbs for 4 miles. Legs in bits and knee like a football but its the tank! Last weekends drink in Carrick on Shannon a distant memory!!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on March 09, 2013, 01:24:25 PM
Cheers, i'll aim for a coulpe of 20's then when i'm up and at it. Do you have a training plan? Will any do me? Minimum requirement is sub 4hrs but obviously i'd like to do as quick as is possible. 7 months of training to come yet.

Good work this morning, you must dream about Mullyash. i can only dream about 20 milers at the minute but i'm convinced that i'll get there eventually.

Just back from parkrun, possibly the worst preparation for a run i've ever had. Fell out of bed at 8:20 after an hours kip, was meant to have picked up 3 people by that time!! Only had time for a banana and a fag beforehand, could have done with a toilet visit but literally walked in as the race was starting.

Decided to stick with my mate who's far more experienced then me at 5k's instead of bombing off on my own and blowing up near the end. Was shoulder to shoulder for 4k and then i edged on and left him for dead. Didn't realise that he'd pulled up with a bad calf!!

Passed quite a few on the last k  which was a good boost but still ended up a few seconds slower than last week. Not a happy bunny.

10k timed run in Crystal Palace in the morning, start and finish in the stadium which i might bowl down to but i'm working again tonight so will only grab an hours sleep at best.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on March 10, 2013, 09:18:32 PM
Took the week off since the half marathon, going to have to drag myself out one of the nights this week and force a 5km in to get back into it.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on March 10, 2013, 09:51:02 PM
Midlouth, just do it. I hadn't run the weeks either side of a ski trip so 3 weeks out of it and I'm killed today after struggling with 4 miles yesterday.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on March 10, 2013, 10:42:38 PM
Midlouth, just do it. I hadn't run the weeks either side of a ski trip so 3 weeks out of it and I'm killed today after struggling with 4 miles yesterday.

What was you time for the 4?

I did 4 this morning - first time I did that distance in over a year 35:30  :(
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on March 10, 2013, 10:46:08 PM
Midlouth, just do it. I hadn't run the weeks either side of a ski trip so 3 weeks out of it and I'm killed today after struggling with 4 miles yesterday.

Either tomorrow or Tuesday night at the latest I'll force myself out into the cold! Hopefully the weather will pick up in next couple of days, just shows how blessed we were with last weekends weather!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ONeill on March 10, 2013, 10:47:17 PM
Midlouth, just do it. I hadn't run the weeks either side of a ski trip so 3 weeks out of it and I'm killed today after struggling with 4 miles yesterday.

What was you time for the 4?

I did 4 this morning - first time I did that distance in over a year 35:30  :(

That's not bad if you haven't run in a while. Did three miles this morning and the sun was setting when I reached base.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Armaghgeddon on March 10, 2013, 10:57:47 PM
I am trying to get involved with gaelic or 5 a side soccer teams to get some running done
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on March 11, 2013, 09:31:54 AM
Midlouth, just do it. I hadn't run the weeks either side of a ski trip so 3 weeks out of it and I'm killed today after struggling with 4 miles yesterday.

What was you time for the 4?

I did 4 this morning - first time I did that distance in over a year 35:30  :(

Didn't time it really but would say it was slower than that as it involved walking up part of Fortwilliam Park, which is a crap last half mile home for me.  I really really hated it.
Out tonight in the cold for four miles to see if I can get a bit better.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 11, 2013, 09:54:21 AM
When you're aiming to get fit the best way to go about getting there is to run slowly. When I say slowly I mean slowly for yourself - you shouldn't be running breathless. If you do this 3 or so times a week for a few weeks your slow pace will increase dramatically. Best way to think of it is if you're timing it don't look at your watch during the run - just run comfortably - then check it at the end of your run. Compare for a few weeks and you'll see an increase. Getting fit is much quicker if you're working at "aerobic" levels and you keep it controlled and slow. Worrying about times etc. will a) make you feel worse b) not get you fit as quickly...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Bingo on March 11, 2013, 12:45:47 PM
Cheers, i'll aim for a coulpe of 20's then when i'm up and at it. Do you have a training plan? Will any do me? Minimum requirement is sub 4hrs but obviously i'd like to do as quick as is possible. 7 months of training to come yet.

Good work this morning, you must dream about Mullyash. i can only dream about 20 milers at the minute but i'm convinced that i'll get there eventually.

Just back from parkrun, possibly the worst preparation for a run i've ever had. Fell out of bed at 8:20 after an hours kip, was meant to have picked up 3 people by that time!! Only had time for a banana and a fag beforehand, could have done with a toilet visit but literally walked in as the race was starting.

Decided to stick with my mate who's far more experienced then me at 5k's instead of bombing off on my own and blowing up near the end. Was shoulder to shoulder for 4k and then i edged on and left him for dead. Didn't realise that he'd pulled up with a bad calf!!

Passed quite a few on the last k  which was a good boost but still ended up a few seconds slower than last week. Not a happy bunny.

10k timed run in Crystal Palace in the morning, start and finish in the stadium which i might bowl down to but i'm working again tonight so will only grab an hours sleep at best.

I followed a training plan as best I could for first one - google Hal Hidgon, he has various plans at different levels, i used one of his for Dublin last year. I'd not even panic too much about spreading it out over the 7 months, keep doing what you doing and then work from marathon time back to start of training plan and time it that way.

Mullyash was a killer on Saturday, its a toughie but hopefully it will stand to me for connemara. Knee still not right since.

Biggest thing I found for the 5kms and 10kms is pacing it right at the start, too fast always catches people later. Nothing like picking people off and passing people, you find it great for the spirit and the pace always surpises you.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: bamboo on March 11, 2013, 03:29:50 PM
Cheers B, i'll look him up and print something off closer to the time.

Done the 10k yest, was aiming to keep it at 5min/k throughout and push on at the end but let it slip towards 5-7 and couldn't get it back. Finished on 50:44 which i'm not devastated with. Last 400m was in the stadium on the proper running track which was a great boost on the legs. Passed a few heading for home but was passed by others too. Really enjoyed it though which is the main thing.

Next 10k timed run is 31st March but there's an 8.2 miler down the road on the 24th which i'll attempt. That should help towrds the 10k run. 1hr 05 should be doable so i'll get a few longer runs in between now and then.

I agree with Tommygunn below. Just run for fun, forget looking at the watch on training runs, use it purely for distance. I do a timed run at the weekend but during the week its just a bit of fun running and chatting with mates.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 11, 2013, 03:47:49 PM
Anyone following Kevin Kilbane's progress on twitter, going for the London Marathon. Tipping along nicely, should be well under 3.30.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: muppet on March 11, 2013, 04:42:05 PM
Anyone following Kevin Kilbane's progress on twitter, going for the London Marathon.

Even after all that he won't get a decent cross in!  ;)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on March 12, 2013, 09:32:21 PM
Midlouth, just do it. I hadn't run the weeks either side of a ski trip so 3 weeks out of it and I'm killed today after struggling with 4 miles yesterday.

Either tomorrow or Tuesday night at the latest I'll force myself out into the cold! Hopefully the weather will pick up in next couple of days, just shows how blessed we were with last weekends weather!

Forced myself out tonight and did 7km, did my fast mile and fast km so worth it, back on the horse as it were. I'll need to sign up to do something soon to keep the interest, won't quit any time soon but certainly felt in the last couple of weeks it was worth having something to focus on.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2013, 09:40:43 PM
Anyone doing the Larne half marathon in 11 days?? I'm doing it but havent done much training for it. Plenty short distance stuff though
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 12, 2013, 09:43:39 PM
I'm planning to do it mr. Been training for a few months for it. First real crack at a half.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: All of a Sludden on March 12, 2013, 09:49:00 PM
Forced myself out tonight and did 7km, did my fast mile and fast km so worth it, back on the horse as it were. I'll need to sign up to do something soon to keep the interest, won't quit any time soon but certainly felt in the last couple of weeks it was worth having something to focus on.

If you need something to focus on have a look at the mourne marathon. If I am injury free I will definitely be there.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on March 12, 2013, 09:52:24 PM
Forced myself out tonight and did 7km, did my fast mile and fast km so worth it, back on the horse as it were. I'll need to sign up to do something soon to keep the interest, won't quit any time soon but certainly felt in the last couple of weeks it was worth having something to focus on.

If you need something to focus on have a look at the mourne marathon. If I am injury free I will definitely be there.

That's the one that is literally across the mountain?? Are you mad  :o I struggle with flat surfaces haha! Maybe next year when I've a few events under my belt.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 12, 2013, 09:56:58 PM
I'm planning to do it mr. Been training for a few months for it. First real crack at a half.
<1.22? hope goes well man. Great distance to race.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Rois on March 12, 2013, 09:57:55 PM
Titanic Quarter 10k in Belfast is nxt up for me - as flat a run as you can imagine. 22 April or something.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: All of a Sludden on March 12, 2013, 09:59:20 PM
Forced myself out tonight and did 7km, did my fast mile and fast km so worth it, back on the horse as it were. I'll need to sign up to do something soon to keep the interest, won't quit any time soon but certainly felt in the last couple of weeks it was worth having something to focus on.

If you need something to focus on have a look at the mourne marathon. If I am injury free I will definitely be there.

That's the one that is literally across the mountain?? Are you mad  :o I struggle with flat surfaces haha! Maybe next year when I've a few events under my belt.

I have done bits of it, it's tough, I am not sure I'd be fit for it all in one go yet, it's a big step up. Strangely I am very comfortable and surprisingly quick going up mountains, it's the descent that I lose a lot of time.
Was the Carlinlingford half all on the flat or did it go on to Slieve Foye?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: imtommygunn on March 12, 2013, 09:59:55 PM
I'm planning to do it mr. Been training for a few months for it. First real crack at a half.
<1.22? hope goes well man. Great distance to race.

cheers i'll tell you next week... Hope to be in round that and maybe a bit quicker but we'll see. 10k this sunday to take care of first!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ballinaman on March 12, 2013, 10:03:50 PM
I'm planning to do it mr. Been training for a few months for it. First real crack at a half.
<1.22? hope goes well man. Great distance to race.

cheers i'll tell you next week... Hope to be in round that and maybe a bit quicker but we'll see. 10k this sunday to take care of first!
nice one, you're going well so, 10k will set you up nicely, sub 1.20 is a tough nut to crack but well doable.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Orior on March 12, 2013, 10:04:32 PM
I'm planning to do it mr. Been training for a few months for it. First real crack at a half.
<1.22? hope goes well man. Great distance to race.

cheers i'll tell you next week... Hope to be in round that and maybe a bit quicker but we'll see. 10k this sunday to take care of first!

Will you be wearing club or county colours? Or alternatively, a proper running vest?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: midLouth on March 12, 2013, 10:10:58 PM