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Title: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: sail_in on October 04, 2008, 09:24:19 PM
Lads, I don't post on here very often but I'd appreciate some advice on this!

I'm 26 now and I've never even been away to the States for a summer or anything like that!  I know you need a passport to go abroad and that's about it.

I was thinking of holidaying in the States for maybe a month or so, before heading on round to Australia.  Or maybe, head out to the States and work there for a while first and then go to Australia.

The main questions I would have would be:

How do you go about being allowed to work in the States and/or Australia? 

Is January (ish) any better or worse a time to be going to the States in light of everything that's going on at the minute?

What do you do about money, do you just lift from an ATM and take that cash withdrawal charge that they seem to give you?

As I said, I really have no clue around this stuff at all - nothing is too basic to be telling me!

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: milltown row on October 04, 2008, 09:27:02 PM
dont fly Globespan, they are shite ;)
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: muppet on October 04, 2008, 09:39:16 PM
Quote from: sail_in on October 04, 2008, 09:24:19 PM
Lads, I don't post on here very often but I'd appreciate some advice on this!

I'm 26 now and I've never even been away to the States for a summer or anything like that!  I know you need a passport to go abroad and that's about it.

I was thinking of holidaying in the States for maybe a month or so, before heading on round to Australia.  Or maybe, head out to the States and work there for a while first and then go to Australia.

The main questions I would have would be:

How do you go about being allowed to work in the States and/or Australia? 

Is January (ish) any better or worse a time to be going to the States in light of everything that's going on at the minute?

What do you do about money, do you just lift from an ATM and take that cash withdrawal charge that they seem to give you?

As I said, I really have no clue around this stuff at all - nothing is too basic to be telling me!

Thanks in advance!

Hard to take you seriously but anyway, as well as a passport, which takes about a week, to get you will need visas (a special stamp in your passport) from both the American and Australian embassies. Allow a couple of weeks for each. If you want to go in January you would need to get onto it right away.

Most cards from Irish banks will work in most ATMs worldwide but dont use credit cards to withdraw cash, very expensive.
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: gerry on October 04, 2008, 10:25:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 04, 2008, 09:27:23 PM
Just sail in.

your full of good advice
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: The Watcher Pat on October 05, 2008, 09:22:44 AM
Quote from: sail_in on October 04, 2008, 09:24:19 PM
Lads, I don't post on here very often but I'd appreciate some advice on this!

I'm 26 now and I've never even been away to the States for a summer or anything like that!  I know you need a passport to go abroad and that's about it.

I was thinking of holidaying in the States for maybe a month or so, before heading on round to Australia.  Or maybe, head out to the States and work there for a while first and then go to Australia.

The main questions I would have would be:

How do you go about being allowed to work in the States and/or Australia? 

Is January (ish) any better or worse a time to be going to the States in light of everything that's going on at the minute?

What do you do about money, do you just lift from an ATM and take that cash withdrawal charge that they seem to give you?

As I said, I really have no clue around this stuff at all - nothing is too basic to be telling me!

Thanks in advance!


Is this a wind up?    How do you go about being employed in the states or Australia?? 


If you do make it to America..(nyc)
Tip every one
Try not to use the subway too late at night
Dont go in Jan....its fcukin freeszin
Dont bring a g/f...There are plenty there( like bringing apples to a orchard)
dont leave your job here to go..if you have the option take a career break and leave it possible that you have a job to come home too.....not everyone likes it away from home...
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: comethekingdom on October 05, 2008, 10:15:20 AM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on October 05, 2008, 09:22:44 AM
Quote from: sail_in on October 04, 2008, 09:24:19 PM
Lads, I don't post on here very often but I'd appreciate some advice on this!

I'm 26 now and I've never even been away to the States for a summer or anything like that!  I know you need a passport to go abroad and that's about it.

I was thinking of holidaying in the States for maybe a month or so, before heading on round to Australia.  Or maybe, head out to the States and work there for a while first and then go to Australia.

The main questions I would have would be:

How do you go about being allowed to work in the States and/or Australia? 

Is January (ish) any better or worse a time to be going to the States in light of everything that's going on at the minute?

What do you do about money, do you just lift from an ATM and take that cash withdrawal charge that they seem to give you?

As I said, I really have no clue around this stuff at all - nothing is too basic to be telling me!

Thanks in advance!


Is this a wind up?    How do you go about being employed in the states or Australia?? 


If you do make it to America..(nyc)
Tip every one
Try not to use the subway too late at night
Dont go in Jan....its fcukin freeszin
Dont bring a g/f...There are plenty there( like bringing apples to a orchard)
dont leave your job here to go..if you have the option take a career break and leave it possible that you have a job to come home too.....not everyone likes it away from home...

You would be daft to leave a job in the current economic crisis and expect to walk into one similar after you've come home after 12 months away. Dont want to put you off going - in fact a bit of travelling is the making of a fella BUT think of what would lie ahead when you come home? It can be very difficult to readjust.
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: Arthur_Friend on October 05, 2008, 10:37:40 AM
You can't get a visa to work in the US and then go there looking for work, you need to find employment first then your employer will get you a visa/sponsorship to work there. You don't need a visa to travel there as a tourist from the UK either, you just fill in a visa waiver on the flight and you can stay there for 90 days. If you wanted to work you could work illegally.

For Australia you can get a working holiday visa which entitles you to work in both Australia and New Zealand for one year. My advice is to choose this option and forget the US. Might be an option to go to Oz via the US and tour across the country.

Things may have changed in the past few years so maybe others can confirm what I've said.

Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: Minder on October 05, 2008, 10:50:52 AM
I would say your probably talking bollocks Arthur
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: Arthur_Friend on October 05, 2008, 10:55:35 AM
Good to you man.  :-*
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: The Watcher Pat on October 05, 2008, 11:13:33 AM
Quote from: Minder on October 05, 2008, 10:50:52 AM
I would say your probably talking bollocks Arthur

here here!
You need a greencard to work legally in the USA!
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: Carmen Stateside on October 05, 2008, 11:23:06 AM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on October 05, 2008, 11:13:33 AM
Quote from: Minder on October 05, 2008, 10:50:52 AM
I would say your probably talking bollocks Arthur

here here!
You need a greencard to work legally in the USA!

Eh?
The new J  visas of which Ireland received 20 000  this year allows students to live and work for one year!
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: The Watcher Pat on October 05, 2008, 11:52:42 AM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on October 05, 2008, 11:23:06 AM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on October 05, 2008, 11:13:33 AM
Quote from: Minder on October 05, 2008, 10:50:52 AM
I would say your probably talking bollocks Arthur

here here!
You need a greencard to work legally in the USA!

Eh?
The new J  visas of which Ireland received 20 000  this year allows students to live and work for one year!
And how do you know Arthur is a student?  Oh i might just go floating around the world here starting this Jan??? If he was having a year out or something surely it would start same time as uni's or school's....
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: Carmen Stateside on October 05, 2008, 11:56:54 AM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on October 05, 2008, 11:23:06 AM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on October 05, 2008, 11:13:33 AM
Quote from: Minder on October 05, 2008, 10:50:52 AM
I would say your probably talking bollocks Arthur

here here!
You need a greencard to work legally in the USA!

No you dont!
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: The Watcher Pat on October 05, 2008, 12:00:18 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on October 05, 2008, 11:56:54 AM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on October 05, 2008, 11:23:06 AM
Quote from: The Watcher Pat on October 05, 2008, 11:13:33 AM
Quote from: Minder on October 05, 2008, 10:50:52 AM
I would say your probably talking bollocks Arthur

here here!
You need a greencard to work legally in the USA!

No you dpnt

So what u need ther? If ure not a student?

http://www.usa-greencardlottery.net/faq.php#QuestionWhatIsGreenCard


See i was there and couldnt work leaglly...Thats why i came home.
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: Carmen Stateside on October 05, 2008, 12:10:18 PM
You could try for one of these-

H1B VISA PROGRAM - Information and Learning Center

The H1B Visa is the official and primary USA work visa / permit available to people from all over the world.

The US Government introduced the H1B visa to offer and enable highly skilled International Professionals and/or International Students, from all over the World, the opportunity to live and work in the USA.

The H1B is the most popular and sought after US work visa and US Immigration requires 'every' foreign national to obtain a visa in order to legally work in America.

One of the main advantages of the H1B visa is that it is a 'dual intent' visa which means that you can apply for a Green Card (Legal Permanent Residency).


The Process to obtain an H1B Visa is:
Step 1 -  you Must 1st find an H1B Sponsorship Job with a US Sponsoring Company (employer)
Step 2 - your H1B employer files your H1B Visa Application with the US Immigration Bureau
* individuals can NOT sponsor or apply for their own H1B visa. Only US Employers can.



There are many reasons why US employers want to hire foreign national workers on H1B visas including: to help maintain their Global competitive advantage, to bring cultural diversity into the workplace, and the innovative and strong work ethics and practices that International workers possess. H1B workers also contribute highly to the US economy in numerous ways, help fill current labor shortages in many highly skilled professions and have been instrumental in contributing to the success of many of Americas largest and most prestigious companies.

To Qualify for the H1B Visa Program, you must work in a 'specialty occupation':
The core Specialty Occupations include: IT, Computing, Finance, Accounting, Banking, Marketing, Advertising, PR, Sales, Recruiting, Engineering (all types), Teaching, HealthCare/Medical, Legal, Lawyers, Networking, Telecoms, Business, Management and Hospitality. 

An H1B visa is typically valid for up to six (6) years and entitles your spouse (husband/wife) and children (under 21) to accompany you and live in the USA on an H4 visa. The H4 dependent visa does not allow your spouse/children to work (unless they get their own H1B visa).
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: The Watcher Pat on October 05, 2008, 12:17:50 PM
Maybe i'm wrong! im not 100%

Carmen i'll take ure word for it! ???
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: maggie on October 05, 2008, 12:20:31 PM
is it true that after you are 30, you cant get a 1 year visa for Oz or is that an urban myth?
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: lynchbhoy on October 05, 2008, 12:47:52 PM
the J visas have not been issued yet - I rang the us embassy last week and they told me to keep watching for this on their website

H1B visa sounds interesting Carmen, though I expect banking is no longer high on that list of desired careers !

Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: ziggysego on October 05, 2008, 01:07:54 PM
I heard it was 27 maggie, an odd number
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: Carmen Stateside on October 05, 2008, 01:12:28 PM
Quote from: maggie on October 05, 2008, 12:20:31 PM
is it true that after you are 30, you cant get a 1 year visa for Oz or is that an urban myth?

http://www.visabureau.com/australia/working-holiday-visa.aspx (http://www.visabureau.com/australia/working-holiday-visa.aspx)
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: Arthur_Friend on October 05, 2008, 04:07:54 PM
So looks like it was you who was talking bollocks eh Pat?
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: maggie on October 05, 2008, 04:31:37 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on October 05, 2008, 01:12:28 PM
Quote from: maggie on October 05, 2008, 12:20:31 PM
is it true that after you are 30, you cant get a 1 year visa for Oz or is that an urban myth?

http://www.visabureau.com/australia/working-holiday-visa.aspx (http://www.visabureau.com/australia/working-holiday-visa.aspx)


Thanx Carmen-goin to be 27 next month so i better get a wriggle on then!!
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: mannix on October 05, 2008, 09:35:26 PM
dont bother tipping unless you are going to be a regular. its a disgrace that anyone should count on tips for a living though.
the great american way.
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: ziggysego on October 06, 2008, 01:18:53 AM
What the f**k you all thanking Carmen for? I said 27! Yet again someone on this board steals my credit!
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: J70 on October 06, 2008, 01:33:44 AM
Quote from: mannix on October 05, 2008, 09:35:26 PM
dont bother tipping unless you are going to be a regular. its a disgrace that anyone should count on tips for a living though.
the great american way.

If they start paying decent wages to the barmen and wait staff, the prices of beer and food will go up. I'm not saying its better than the Irish way, its just different. And if you don't tip, especially in NYC, expect some angry taxi drivers and restaurant and hotel staff.
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: Carmen Stateside on October 06, 2008, 02:53:24 AM
Quote from: ziggysego on October 06, 2008, 01:18:53 AM
What the f**k you all thanking Carmen for? I said 27! Yet again someone on this board steals my credit!

Ziggy its 30 thats why!
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: maggie on October 06, 2008, 07:41:40 AM
Quote from: ziggysego on October 06, 2008, 01:18:53 AM
What the f**k you all thanking Carmen for? I said 27! Yet again someone on this board steals my credit!




It was actually Carmen that posted the link that said you can get a visa up until you are 30.
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: ziggysego on October 06, 2008, 08:41:17 AM
Liars
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: Orior on October 06, 2008, 11:49:33 AM
Anyone else here spent a summer in Wildwood, New Jersey?

Best time ever!

I worked just off the boardwalk, on a tourist visa. Trickey enough getting through customs in JFK. I'd enough money for a 2 week stay, then changed my flight once I got there. Had a dear old aunt to vouch for me.

And then there was the grass. Top quality stuff.
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: Donagh on October 06, 2008, 11:54:34 AM
Quote from: Orior on October 06, 2008, 11:49:33 AM
Anyone else here spent a summer in Wildwood, New Jersey?

Best time ever!

I worked just off the boardwalk, on a tourist visa. Trickey enough getting through customs in JFK. I'd enough money for a 2 week stay, then changed my flight once I got there. Had a dear old aunt to vouch for me.

And then there was the grass. Top quality stuff.

Worked a game on the boardwalk for a while before jacking it in for a stint in the Harbour Bar. No visas, all cash in hand - and easily came by at that...
Title: Re: Heading away for a while ...
Post by: mannix on October 06, 2008, 11:54:50 AM
let them get angry, see if i care that they chose a crap job where its up to me to decide if they get paid.
i only tip in "SCORES".