This Saturday, 27th, is the 10-year anniversary of the great minor side of 1998.
P. McConnell,
G. Devlin, M. McGee, F. Loughran,
C. Meenagh, D. O'Hanlon, P. O'Neill,
K. Hughes, C. McAnallen,
G. Wylie, M. Hughes, S. O'Neill,
A. Lynch, E. McGinley, E. Mulligan.
Subs: R. O'Neill, B. McGuigan
(bold - played on Sunday, italics - started in other Senior All-Ireland winning sides)
How does it compare to the progression of other All-Ireland winning minor sides.
Kerry minors in 1975 = C. Nelligan, V. O'Connor, M. O'Sullivan, M. Colgan, J.J. O'Connor, M. Spillane, G. Casey, S. Walsh, N. O'Donovan, F. Scannell, J. Mulvihill, R. Bunyan, C. O'Connor, J. O'Shea, P. Sheehan
I love great obsevation o'neill. If only all counties looked after its youth this way.
Yes it is! Ciaran Meenagh PE Teacher of Ballinascreen.
Derry had 2 decent minor sides that had seniors progress to All Ireland medals...
1983 Minor Side: D Kelly, P O'Donnell, P Bradley, J McGurk, R Conway, B Kealy, N Mullan, P Young, C Barton, C McNicholl, D McNicholl, E McElhinny, E Lynch, D Cassidy, Tony McKiernan.
1989 Minor Side: M O'Connor, J Martin, P McAllister, G Simpson, B McGonigle, G Coleman, R Skelly, J Mulholland, A Tohill, R McEldowney, J Lynn, E Burns, E O'Kane, D Heaney, D Bateson. Subs - K Diamond for Martin, R Murphy for Lynn, J O'Connor for E O'Kane.
All in bold were in the '93 All Ireland winning panel!
Let it not be forgotten that Phillip Jordan was a sub on this side and couldn't get a game!
I know they won the big one that year O Neill but I think 97 was the "big bang" year for that group of players.
Quote from: hardstation on September 24, 2008, 10:17:19 PM
What's the story with Horse Devlin? Any chance of a return?P O'Neill - Any chance of a return, since he retired from signing republican dockets? Or did he move to Cork?
Is that the Ciaran Meenagh that played/plays liathroid laimhe?
Is that the G Wylie that plays pool around the 'Island?
Not playing club football even ! Training Newbridge in Derry.
Gavin is playing senior football with Ardboe.
I thought Conor Gormley was a minor in 98 - was he just 97?
O'Neill,
Who was the minor team that started in 1997?
Quote from: ONeill on September 24, 2008, 08:59:46 PM
This Saturday, 27th, is the 10-year anniversary of the great minor side of 1998.
That's an Omen then. This Saturday will mark the start of the next generation of footballers in Tyrone.
Tommy, Connor Gormley never played minors. He was infact on the Tyrone senior squad before he was picked by Mickey for the U21s. Ricey never played minor football either. This is the 1 problem I can see with the introduction of development squads, that we are missing a certain percentage of our talented players. Ah well, it sems to be working.
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 25, 2008, 09:48:29 AM
I thought Conor Gormley was a minor in 98 - was he just 97?
Didn't make it until U21's in 2001. I think 01 was his first year on both Under 21 and Senior panels.
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 25, 2008, 10:09:37 AM
O'Neill,
Who was the minor team that started in 1997?
Off the top of my head the team that started the All Ireland final - I can be open to correction
1. G Maguire Cookstown
2. K O'Brien Dromore
3. C Gourley Rock
4. B Donnelly Eglish
5. A Ball Clann na Gael
6. D McCrossan Owen Roes
7. G Hetherington Donaghmore
8. K Hughes Killeeshil
9. C McAnallen Eglish
10. J Campbell Dromore
11. B McGuigan Ardboe
12. C Martin Eglish
13. M Harte Errigal
14. R Thornton Coalisland
15. S O'Neill Clann na Gael
Deccie McCrossan would have been a useful boy on Sunday, Would have been some beard!!
I see there's a piece with Donal McAnallen in the Irish News today where he talks about the 98 team. Goes without saying, but Cormac would certainly have gone on to enjoy the same success with the seniors. Nice picture of him, Hughes and McGuigan
What depresses me about that is Laois beat Tyrone in the '96 and '97 All Ireland Final and we also reached the '98 final where Tyrone beat us...
Amazing the difference in fortunes of the Tyrone lads over the next ten years compared to Laois,considering we were as good if not better than them back then,well for two of the 3 finals we were better anyways :)
You beat us just in the '97, not both. We returned the favour in '98.
Sorry my mistake,Of course we beat Kerry in 1996..
Still its hard to think Laois became nothing while Tyrone went on to win 3 All Irelands
I think the problem with Laois mirrors the situation of Tyrone Under 21 successes in the early 90s and subsequent development. It took a second generation of wildly successful youth players before anyone really knew how to take them forward.
Quote from: feetofflames on September 25, 2008, 03:57:06 PM
I think the problem with Laois mirrors the situation of Tyrone Under 21 successes in the early 90s and subsequent development. It took a second generation of wildly successful youth players before anyone really knew how to take them forward.
A good point actually! It's the same with Derry having 2 very successful minor sides and not making the breakthrough until the 2nd minor team started to mature and blend along with the first!
That minor team of 98 was added to with some of the lads from the 2001 All-Ireland minors (Cavanagh esp) and the 2004 All-Ireland minors (Cavanagh Jnr/Mulgrew etc) so it has been that steady and regular stream of succes that culminated with the 2008 side.
Mick O Dwyer said after the 1991 All Ireland under 21 final that if he had that Tyrone team he would win 5 all Irelands with them, he didnt and nobody did, but only 2 of that first team won 2 AI Senior medals : lawn and Canavan and they were both bloody needed as well.
1. G Maguire Cookstown ??
2. K O'Brien Dromore ??
3. C Gourley Rock legend
4. B Donnelly Eglish legend
5. A Ball Clann na Gael Good club player
6. D McCrossan Owen Roes - legend good player pulled out of the panel himself
7. G Hetherington Donaghmore - good club player
8. K Hughes Killeeshil legend
9. C McAnallen Eglish RIP Legend
10. J Campbell Dromore Good club player
11. B McGuigan Ardboe legend
12. C Martin Eglish Good club player
13. M Harte Errigal legend
14. R Thornton Coalisland Good club player
15. S O'Neill Clann na Gael legend
All the ALL Irelanmd medal winners are in as legends, Im noit sure about the firct couple of lads but most of these lads had great careers at different levels.
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Quote from: feetofflames on September 25, 2008, 03:57:06 PM
I think the problem with Laois mirrors the situation of Tyrone Under 21 successes in the early 90s and subsequent development. It took a second generation of wildly successful youth players before anyone really knew how to take them forward.
A good point actually! It's the same with Derry having 2 very successful minor sides and not making the breakthrough until the 2nd minor team started to mature and blend along with the first!
I agree with this also, the Donegal team that won in 1992 was back boned by 2 All Ireland U21 teams from the 80's.
1982: M. Kelly, M. McBrearty, S. Bonnar,
M. Gallagher, E. McIntyre, T. McDermott, B. Tuohy,
A. Molloy,
D. Reid,
M. McHugh, C. Mulgrew,
J. McMullan, S. Meehan, P. Carr, P. McGroarty. Subs: P. Gallagher, S. Maguire.
1987: D. Gallagher,
J.J. Doherty, J. Connors, T. Maguire, D. Keon,
J. Cunningham, P. Carr,
B. Cunningham, J. Gallagher, P. Hegarty, T. Ryan,
B. McGowan, D. Ward,
M. Boyle, L. Gavigan. Subs: C. White and J. McDermott (first match); S. Ward (replay).
Quote from: Take Your Points on September 24, 2008, 10:27:28 PM
Aidan Lynch was a talented footballer a pity he never progressed to a higher level. He always got terrible stick at school because he always turned out with perfectly clean boots for training or matches, cleaned for him by his Mum!
Aiden Lynch was a cracking player - and very handy at the soccer also.
He played his first three years of Ulster Colleges football as a corner back, before making the switch to the top corner.
Quote from: feetofflames on September 25, 2008, 04:06:14 PM
1. G Maguire Cookstown ??
2. K O'Brien Dromore ??
Maguire played a bit for Cookstown, and is primarily playing soccer now as far as I know. Herbie won an u21 medal in 2000 and is still playing away for Dromore.
Why did Lynch never break through and how good is he now with the Derg?
Maybe losing a minor final may spur youngsters on to greater things.
Galway minors lost to Kerry in the All-Ireland final in 1994.
Of that team, Richie Fahy, Tomas Meehan, Declan Meehan, John Divilly, Padraig Joyce,
Michael Donnellan, Derek Savage, Paul Clancy went on to win All-Irelands in 1998 and 2001.
That team was blended with some remaining minors that won the title in 1986!!!
Kevin Walsh and Tomas Mannion (if memory serves)
Phillip Jordan and Ryan Mellon were non playing subs on that side-some outfit!
The omens look good for Down then who have the class of 99 mixed with the minor team of 2005! ( however the loss of Clarke is huge)
Quote from: feetofflames on September 25, 2008, 03:57:06 PM
I think the problem with Laois mirrors the situation of Tyrone Under 21 successes in the early 90s and subsequent development. It took a second generation of wildly successful youth players before anyone really knew how to take them forward.
But Laois did have a second generation of successful youngfellas,We won the All Ireland minor again in 2003 along with several Leinster titles and also got to two U/21 All Ireland finals in the last few years :-\