Poll
Question:
Should the gaaboard.com be made members only?
Option 1: Yes
Option 2: No
After the recent bout of unsavory incidents/wind up merchants, is it about time the gaaboard.com became a members only forum, whereby there is a small subscription charge to join?
I know this has been eluded to in the past, but i honestly believe that it would be in the best interests of the long term future of the board, and it will allow a place where the decent members can enjoy.
So a simple yes or no?
A subscription fee will not get rid of the likes of T. Fearon, I am sure he will find some way of paying it or get a freebie like he usually does.
The problem with this board is the mods/admin. They have allowed Fearon to spout his sectarian ramblings for far too long and it now seems to be the norm and is accepted by many. Even though his comments at the weekend were quite funny, I can also see how some could take offence to them. If he is foolish enough to use his own name for his vitriol then he should be man enough to accept that many people will want to take a pop at him. Northern Ireland is a warped society with people like Fearon and worse on both sides.
you lads would do well gathering up examples of fearons sectarian ramblings to support your claims against the mods.....
as for closing doors, absolutely not. We have nothing to hide
An Fear Rua, have a look at the amount of threads started by Fearon. The vast majority of them are about the IFA, FFA, Windsor Park, Linfield, David Jeffries etc. Its the same old sh*te rehashed time and again. It may have escaped your notice but this is the GAA Board NOT a soccer or anti everything NI.
Quote from: Sideshow Bob on September 10, 2008, 06:25:40 PM
An Fear Rua, have a look at the amount of threads started by Fearon. The vast majority of them are about the IFA, FFA, Windsor Park, Linfield, David Jeffries etc. Its the same old sh*te rehashed time and again. It may have escaped your notice but this is the GAA Board NOT a soccer or anti everything NI.
so what your saying is Any mention of IFA, FFA, Windsor Park, Linfield, David Jeffries etc is sectarian - interesting concept
Also, You might want to have a look up and notice, this is the "Non GAA Discussion" section, hence the perfect place for topics that may not be related to the GAA. Maybe they didnt mention it when you found this place on www.wheretogotobeoffended.com? ;)
sideshowbob
QuoteThe problem with this board is the mods/admin. They have allowed Fearon to spout his sectarian ramblings for far too long and it now seems to be the norm and is accepted by many.
You'd want to be careful, the mods may take a look at your posting history.
Quote from: Sideshow Bob on September 10, 2008, 06:25:40 PM
An Fear Rua, have a look at the amount of threads started by Fearon. The vast majority of them are about the IFA, FFA, Windsor Park, Linfield, David Jeffries etc. Its the same old sh*te rehashed time and again. It may have escaped your notice but this is the GAA Board NOT a soccer or anti everything NI.
I'd say there could be a majority about Tyrone!
Quote from: Sideshow Bob on September 10, 2008, 06:25:40 PM
. It may have escaped your notice but this is the GAA Board NOT a soccer or anti everything NI.
why then have you only made two posts relating to the GAA?
I agree Fred.
I wouldn't mind paying £5, even if that was a yearly thing. I enjoy reading people's opinions, I rarely offer mine as I prefer to see what guys who are playing with Inter County players in clubs etc are saying about x, y or z.
I can't see why it can't be like OWC and keep guest WUMS out
Just get rid of the non-gaa discussion section and stick to the GAA talk.
Quote from: The Gs Man on September 10, 2008, 09:36:52 PM
Just get rid of the non-gaa discussion section and stick to the GAA talk.
But then where would we get our updates on Captain Kennedy? ;)
The ridiculous kow-towing to the owc site is hurting this forum more than it is hurting owc. Unless their are legal ramifications our mods should just tell them to f**k off and get their own house in order. Unfortunately the mods on owc seem to think anything goes as long as it is from one of their own.
The simple solution is to just ban all the Nordies :D
Or lock topics from those that dont post on GAA.
You dont just find this site from browsing. Most are hear through word of mouth, and register because they have an interest in GAA and have an gra for things regarding the assocciation. As G's man says, maybe its time to scrap the Non GAA section. Good enough idea as it was at the time, it has now turned into a political slanging match. If we want to talk politics, find another forum.
What if you have minimal interest in gaelic football, as i do? It would be a football only board in all but name.
So we not only pander to OWC by having our names be approved by them, but we also close off a section of the board that almost every one posts in?
FFS Ive never heard less sense.
Quote from: Minder on September 10, 2008, 10:12:37 PM
What if you have minimal interest in gaelic football, as i do? It would be a football only board in all but name.
What did you do before the advent of the Non GAA section?
Quote from: the green man on September 10, 2008, 10:13:56 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 10, 2008, 10:12:37 PM
What if you have minimal interest in gaelic football, as i do? It would be a football only board in all but name.
What did you do before the advent of the Non GAA section?
I wasnt a member of the board.
the non gaa section is a great aspect of this site and people like minder add a bit of craic to the board. it stays!
Quote from: Minder on September 10, 2008, 10:15:10 PM
Quote from: the green man on September 10, 2008, 10:13:56 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 10, 2008, 10:12:37 PM
What if you have minimal interest in gaelic football, as i do? It would be a football only board in all but name.
What did you do before the advent of the Non GAA section?
I wasnt a member of the board.
Well do you see what is says at the top of the page, just below the line of advertisments? GAAboard.com. That is what we were principally about, and maybe its about time we got back to that. I've nothing against you like, but as was, a GAA forum for GAA fans to talk GAA. Maybe the mods should change the board name to IrishSportandPoliticsandStuff.com
Quote from: the green man on September 10, 2008, 10:21:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 10, 2008, 10:15:10 PM
Quote from: the green man on September 10, 2008, 10:13:56 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 10, 2008, 10:12:37 PM
What if you have minimal interest in gaelic football, as i do? It would be a football only board in all but name.
What did you do before the advent of the Non GAA section?
I wasnt a member of the board.
Well do you see what is says at the top of the page, just below the line of advertisments? GAAboard.com. That is what we were principally about, and maybe its about time we got back to that. I've nothing against you like, but as was, a GAA forum for GAA fans to talk GAA. Maybe the mods should change the board name to IrishSportandPoliticsandStuff.com
Eh Hurling is a GAA sport too
So those voting to keep the website open to all, can I hear any reasons for your thoughts?
Jesus lads me thinks there is a bit of an over reaction here!!
If someone comes onto the site and doesnt want to get invloved in non gaa banter, which may have a bit of slagging or a jovial nature to it, then its an easy option not to open a thread and become offended.
Its clear that some of the OWC crowd (not all) come on here and take offence at the slightest remark. Remember Ireland has changed for many of these people in recent times and insecurities are obvious. Suspicion of Irish culture (GAA) wont change over night.
The mods should be trusted to make the call on what they deem or dont deem offensive behaviour. The Mc Afee call is perhaps the wrong one but it has been made so we move on.
Quote from: the green man on September 10, 2008, 10:21:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 10, 2008, 10:15:10 PM
Quote from: the green man on September 10, 2008, 10:13:56 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 10, 2008, 10:12:37 PM
What if you have minimal interest in gaelic football, as i do? It would be a football only board in all but name.
What did you do before the advent of the Non GAA section?
I wasnt a member of the board.
Well do you see what is says at the top of the page, just below the line of advertisments? GAAboard.com. That is what we were principally about, and maybe its about time we got back to that. I've nothing against you like, but as was, a GAA forum for GAA fans to talk GAA. Maybe the mods should change the board name to IrishSportandPoliticsandStuff.com
But that is nonsense. It's not like their is one forum and it's a total free for all. The gaa, local and hurling forums are well policed so that anything non-gaa stays in the non-gaa forum. If you aren't interested in it then don't read it.
Quote from: fred the red on September 10, 2008, 10:26:59 PM
So those voting to keep the website open to all, can I hear any reasons for your thoughts?
I like the site the way it is (yes it has it's faults) but I havent heard any argument to convince me that it should be a closed site.
Before the non gaa section - non gaa related stuff would be in the gaa section.
I don't see what's wrong with discussing non gaa stuff.
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 10, 2008, 10:29:14 PM
But that is nonsense. It's not like their is one forum and it's a total free for all. The gaa, local and hurling forums are well policed so that anything non-gaa stays in the non-gaa forum. If you aren't interested in it then don't read it.
Well then merge it back the way it was.
www.GAAboardmembersAgainstChange.com
Quote from: the green man on September 10, 2008, 10:34:35 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 10, 2008, 10:29:14 PM
But that is nonsense. It's not like their is one forum and it's a total free for all. The gaa, local and hurling forums are well policed so that anything non-gaa stays in the non-gaa forum. If you aren't interested in it then don't read it.
Well then merge it back the way it was.
www.GAAboardmembersAgainstChange.com
Why? You haven't given me a reason why nor have you given me a reason (that would convince me) that the board should be closed.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 10, 2008, 10:37:25 PM
Why? You haven't given me a reason why nor have you given me a reason (that would convince me) that the board should be closed.
No-one on this thread has advocated that the board close. Certainly not me. The title is 'Is it time to close our doors' I'm assuming this is regards to what has happened to Fearon on another board. If the Non GAA section wasnt here, those from another board wouldnt be either.
But if you merge it then people will go back to discussing non-gaa topics in the gaa forum. At the minute if you want to talk football or hurling you know where to do it with like minded individuals. But believe it or not even the hardcore gaa man still likes to discuss hollyoaks, things that grind their gears or where to go for cheap flights!
The site is perfect as it is and this will blow over and personally based on some of the shite smcafee was spouting I'd rather have nifan, evil genius on here any day.
Quote from: the green man on September 10, 2008, 10:43:50 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 10, 2008, 10:37:25 PM
Why? You haven't given me a reason why nor have you given me a reason (that would convince me) that the board should be closed.
No-one on this thread has advocated that the board close. Certainly not me. The title is 'Is it time to close our doors' I'm assuming this is regards to what has happened to Fearon on another board. If the Non GAA section wasnt here, those from another board wouldnt be either.
Yes I know no one was saying to close the board - I was talking about closing up the membership.
If the Non gaa section wasnt here - it'd be in the gaa section with (non gaa) in the subject heading like every non gaa topic was before the seperate forum was created. Surely you're not suggesting that we must only discuss gaa topics on this board because as Tony says GAA people like to talk about other things too!
Quote from: the green man on September 10, 2008, 10:21:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 10, 2008, 10:15:10 PM
Quote from: the green man on September 10, 2008, 10:13:56 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 10, 2008, 10:12:37 PM
What if you have minimal interest in gaelic football, as i do? It would be a football only board in all but name.
What did you do before the advent of the Non GAA section?
I wasnt a member of the board.
Well do you see what is says at the top of the page, just below the line of advertisments? GAAboard.com. That is what we were principally about, and maybe its about time we got back to that. I've nothing against you like, but as was, a GAA forum for GAA fans to talk GAA. Maybe the mods should change the board name to IrishSportandPoliticsandStuff.com
Allow me to clarify, when i say i have no interest in gaelic football that is not the same as saying i have no interest in the GAA, i am a hurling man. I would mainly post in the hurling section, when it isnt lying dormant, and the Local GAA section as well as the Non GAA section. I would prefer not to wade through 6 threads on what Stephen O Neill had for breakfast. Each to their own though.
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 10, 2008, 10:48:08 PM
because as Tony says GAA people like to talk about other things too!
Obviously, as over half the posts on this board are in the 'Non' section.
Quote from: the green man on September 10, 2008, 10:55:30 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 10, 2008, 10:48:08 PM
because as Tony says GAA people like to talk about other things too!
Obviously, as over half the posts on this board are in the 'Non' section.
exactly. Is there something wrong with that?
As I said maybe it time to change the name of the board then to IrishSportandPoliticsandStuff.com :P
Its ok the way it is. It has faults but dont we all!
Sideshow Bob has never posted on a Gaa topic. Why is he pushing for change? I'll let him answer that himself.
I've no problem with the current structure of the board and it's sections, but I'd be in favour of a subscription being introduced, only charged when you want to post something. The only reason for this would be that generally only people that were serious about posting would post and cut on WUM's or those trying to push a particular agenda.
I'd imagine that likes of NIFAN and MW and Sammy etc would have no poblem paying a fiver to continue on here and anyone else from OWC or anywhere else that wanted to.
Quote from: the green man on September 10, 2008, 10:21:35 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 10, 2008, 10:15:10 PM
Quote from: the green man on September 10, 2008, 10:13:56 PM
Quote from: Minder on September 10, 2008, 10:12:37 PM
What if you have minimal interest in gaelic football, as i do? It would be a football only board in all but name.
What did you do before the advent of the Non GAA section?
I wasnt a member of the board.
Well do you see what is says at the top of the page, just below the line of advertisments? GAAboard.com. That is what we were principally about, and maybe its about time we got back to that. I've nothing against you like, but as was, a GAA forum for GAA fans to talk GAA. Maybe the mods should change the board name to IrishSportandPoliticsandStuff.com
What's wrong with it the way it is? The separate non-GAA section was created a few years back because
lads wanted to discuss things other than GAA as well and those threads were pushing GAA threads off the first page when everything was thrown in together (in the same way that later still a separate hurling section was created because the poorly subscribed hurling threads kept disappearing down the list). Besides, the GAA section will get fairly quiet for a few months after the football final, with not a huge amount happening except for the provincial club championships, the international rules (is that even on this year?), the All Stars and the odd managerial appointment. It certainly won't be as busy as it does be in the spring/summer, especially for those of us in exile who are more cut off from non-intercounty stuff. The non-GAA section keeps a lot of people coming back in the meantime.
Anyway, if you don't like the non-GAA section, don't visit it. The moderators are there to take care of any pricks who join just to stir shite.
Wee suggestion - Just get rid of the non-gaa fans ??
Quote from: tyrone86 on September 10, 2008, 09:39:24 PM
Quote from: The Gs Man on September 10, 2008, 09:36:52 PM
Just get rid of the non-gaa discussion section and stick to the GAA talk.
But then where would we get our updates on Captain Kennedy? ;)
http://www.myspace.com/captainkennedy :P
Wise up lads. I have been a viewer/member of the board for 6-7 years now and every so often there are incidents like this. Some of them have come from interlopers, some have come from regular members of the board.(anyone remember Tony's Myspace that was set up). I have no issue about paying a subscription but I feel it is wrong to close the site to non members. OWC is a very emotive website in that there are issues surrounding the external structures of the background to NI that create tension. Bar a few arguments about the GAA being a supporter of terrorism(which is easily debunked) it is a fairly open organisation.
In my view to close the shop in any way is further fuel to anti gaa people to have a lash. Let the past time posters have a go at us and we will debunk them. Generally the likes of sammy and nifan have other interests outside of GAA bashing :P so that is why they stick around. The trollers eventually drift off (hint hint Evil Genius ;)) What happened to Tony is wrong but in no way should it dictate how we change what has been a thoroughly successful system.
I dont think there are any major problems with the board (certainly not with T Fearon - who is one of the most enjoyable to read posters ever!), but I would be in favour of a subscription based board which would in theory stop a few maggots and substanially cut down on multiple personalities which I would say is the big problem, some people will post any oul sh1te if they know they've another username to use.
Could a subscription of £5 per member be used to improve the board itself - technically or whatever? Who currently bears the expenses involved? Do we still have to up sticks every so often or are them days gone?
Whats the problem?
You get 4 choices.
GAA Discussion
Hurling Discussion
Local GAA Discussion
Non GAA Discussion
If you want to discuss general gaa, click on the GAA discussion, if you want to hear about what's happening within your county click on the Local GAA Discussion and if you don't want to talk about GAA go to the Non GAA Discussion. It's not like having a Non GAA Discussion actually inconveniences you. Just don't click on it. The same with people complaining about certain topics on the board, if you see the topic OWC, or hot women or whatever and you have no interest in it don't click it, it's not compulsory to read through every thread.
Quote from: bennydorano on September 11, 2008, 10:00:14 AM
I dont think there are any major problems with the board (certainly not with T Fearon - who is one of the most enjoyable to read posters ever!), but I would be in favour of a subscription based board which would in theory stop a few maggots and substanially cut down on multiple personalities which I would say is the big problem, some people will post any oul sh1te if they know they've another username to use.
Could a subscription of £5 per member be used to improve the board itself - technically or whatever? Who currently bears the expenses involved? Do we still have to up sticks every so often or are them days gone?
I think that was mooted a while back because of Billy Boots and his top 5 Songs lists he runs in the build up to christmas :P There was a problem with the bandwidth or something like that but since the simple machines forum has been adopted as the host it is no longer an issue. If the service was improved I would pay the sub but not to stop people posting.
And with a subscription service, other things would come into play. Downtime, or board crashes would become more of an issue because people are paying to use it, etc etc etc. And other things would be much more under the limelight when people have money on the line. €5 or whatever is not a lot, but can you ban someone who pays up? Do you return their money?
i think the board is just fine the way it is its no harm having a non gaa section lots of lads have interests outside of the gaa and this gives us the option to discuss them there . As for paying a subsription fee i'd pay it no problem but i prefered buds idea a few months ago when he suggested the gaa board members should buy a horse now that would be money well spent ;)
maybe we should just ban the discussion of foreign sports and have a black list of things that people dont like discussing incase somebody doesnt agree with them
or
we could just change the name to nordieboard.com and your IP addess states if you can join or not ;)
Quote from: Tankie on September 11, 2008, 10:20:44 AM
maybe we should just ban the discussion of foreign sports and have a black list of things that people dont like discussing incase somebody doesnt agree with them
or
we could just change the name to nordieboard.com and your IP addess states if you can join or not ;)
This board would be a very dull place without us "nordies"! ;)
As for the initial question, of course we shouldn't "close" the board (ie: make it like OWC to join), democracy is the way of the board, and the Mods generally do a very good job (except regarding smcfee [who btw was just a wum but shouldn't have been asked to change his handle] and my warning! ;) ;)) and also in tandam with the Mods the board generally does a great job of policing itself.
Why fix something that isn't broken!
As for a subscription fee, while I would have no problem paying one, I do feel that it would put off a good few people from posting, alot of genuine posters do not post an awful lot, yet like the fact that their members and can lurk whilst retaining the ability to post if and when they like.
£5 for the privilage of posting here? Its not like its the Mensa forum. If ye threw in a free t-shirt, maybe.
I dont think theres any real problem. Its grand the way it is.
The way OWC works is that members can post, but only those "patrons" who have paid the fiver can start topics.
Requiring money before any posting occurs would prevent people starting posting in the first place.
Quote from: nifan on September 11, 2008, 01:02:13 PM
The way OWC works is that members can post, but only those "patrons" who have paid the fiver can start topics.
Requiring money before any posting occurs would prevent people starting posting in the first place.
Does it make a difference nifan?
Or would it just mean some w4nkers hijacking topics on a regular basis?
I think so full back.
Most posters start by reading topics, then posting the odd comment or two. After a while they may become regulars.
Coming to a site demanding you pay money up front will scare offmany casual posters.
Quote from: nifan on September 11, 2008, 01:02:13 PM
The way OWC works is that members can post, but only those "patrons" who have paid the fiver can start topics.
Is there not "patrons only" threads there nifan? I thought I saw something like that over there.
Quote from: his holiness nb on September 11, 2008, 01:11:46 PM
Quote from: nifan on September 11, 2008, 01:02:13 PM
The way OWC works is that members can post, but only those "patrons" who have paid the fiver can start topics.
Is there not "patrons only" threads there nifan? I thought I saw something like that over there.
Yeah nearly 50% of them are!
yes there is that as well. But there is still the opportunity for new posters to post on the general threads.
Not sure which are patrons only
Quote from: the Deel Rover on September 11, 2008, 10:19:29 AM
i think the board is just fine the way it is its no harm having a non gaa section lots of lads have interests outside of the gaa and this gives us the option to discuss them there . As for paying a subsription fee i'd pay it no problem but i prefered buds idea a few months ago when he suggested the gaa board members should buy a horse now that would be money well spent ;)
I have been on the board for only a few short days now and I think it is fine except for a few wankers on here causing trouble. I think that we should just black list them and keep it open. If it does go to members only will I still be able to come here and read and post about GAA???
Quote from: KCGaelicFootball on September 11, 2008, 05:21:46 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on September 11, 2008, 10:19:29 AM
i think the board is just fine the way it is its no harm having a non gaa section lots of lads have interests outside of the gaa and this gives us the option to discuss them there . As for paying a subsription fee i'd pay it no problem but i prefered buds idea a few months ago when he suggested the gaa board members should buy a horse now that would be money well spent ;)
I have been on the board for only a few short days now and I think it is fine except for a few w**kers on here causing trouble. I think that we should just black list them and keep it open. If it does go to members only will I still be able to come here and read and post about GAA???
Your grasp of the English language has improved ten fold in the last few days KC............... :o
Quote from: full back on September 11, 2008, 05:27:37 PM
Quote from: KCGaelicFootball on September 11, 2008, 05:21:46 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on September 11, 2008, 10:19:29 AM
i think the board is just fine the way it is its no harm having a non gaa section lots of lads have interests outside of the gaa and this gives us the option to discuss them there . As for paying a subsription fee i'd pay it no problem but i prefered buds idea a few months ago when he suggested the gaa board members should buy a horse now that would be money well spent ;)
I have been on the board for only a few short days now and I think it is fine except for a few w**kers on here causing trouble. I think that we should just black list them and keep it open. If it does go to members only will I still be able to come here and read and post about GAA???
Your grasp of the English language has improved ten fold in the last few days KC............... :o
Is that a good thing? I am trying to recall all of my lingo that I have learned over the years. I actually have a book at home to read from to use the slang. Isn't such something that a yank would do right???
Quote from: full back on September 11, 2008, 05:27:37 PM
Your grasp of the English language has improved ten fold in the last few days KC............... :o
Indeed....
Are you taking bets FB?
Quote from: ludermor on September 11, 2008, 05:49:52 PM
Quote from: full back on September 11, 2008, 05:27:37 PM
Your grasp of the English language has improved ten fold in the last few days KC............... :o
Indeed....
Are you taking bets FB?
No way Luder, I would be looking to have a bet rather than take one ;)
Here's a mad idea, why don't we just leave it the way it is.
::)