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Title: Tipping
Post by: Aristotle Flynn on June 20, 2008, 07:52:40 PM
I heard a story recently about a pilgrimage to Lourdes where the parishioners passed round a collection for the pilot. I think that's mad. He probably earns more in a month that most of those old dears do in a year. There should be guidelines on tipping. I only tip in restaurants - never taxis or barbers.

What does everybody else do? 
Title: Re: Tipping
Post by: ziggysego on June 20, 2008, 07:54:30 PM
Just cows
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Post by: ONeill on June 20, 2008, 07:57:42 PM
Cow tipping's great after a feed of stout and I suspect the cattle love it as well.
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Post by: ONeill on June 20, 2008, 08:10:11 PM
I once tipped yer ma, HS. 3.30 at Haydock, yermazzadalek.
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Post by: ziggysego on June 20, 2008, 08:15:08 PM
Big something anyway
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Post by: Zapatista on June 20, 2008, 08:29:06 PM
I was thinking about starting a thread on this the other day :-\

can you people please stop tipping. We do not tip in this country. Be it for a meal, taxi, hotel or whatever. We do not tip. All you tippers out there are making the rest of us look bad and are embarrassing us into paying higher prices for our services. If someone does you a good service you keep using that service and then give them something at Christmas. Otherwise they can sod off and you tippers can sod off too.
Title: Re: Tipping
Post by: ONeill on June 20, 2008, 08:37:56 PM
Tis a good way, though, to make a point and leave a 3p tip.

Never been a waiter. We'd need to hear from them.
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Post by: saffron sam2 on June 20, 2008, 09:46:32 PM
If he had the aul fella's accuracy he would have missed.

Although the da did score two goals for Antrim on his senior championship debut, in a team managed by his da. The next person to achieve such a feat was the legendary Darren O'Hare.
Title: Re: Tipping
Post by: Puckoon on June 20, 2008, 09:57:31 PM
I bartended and waited tables for years. Never made much in the way of tips - except the odd shout of have one for yourself. In omagh, that meant the price of a pint. In belfast that meant 20p. No kidding.

Its ridiculous over here and Im far too nice to people which costs me a f**king fortune. Ive no problems with tipping - and would tip at home in Ireland, but its the whole premise that gets me.

We go into a chain resturaunt (lets say red robin). I buy the food, the waitress brings the food, the cook makes the food. All three of these events help Red Robin to make their huge profits, yet Im the plonker thats expected to supplement the waitress' minimum wage with a tip (not even 10% anymore - 15% for half decent service) in order for her to make a living. She in turn is expected to tip the bus boys, the cooks and the manager.

Its the corporations that are killing it.

Also, tips are expected from:

Poker dealers
Tattoo artists
Hair dressers
Taxi drivers
Valet servers
Cocktail servers

Im sure theres more but I cant think of them and now Im mad. :D
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Post by: fred the red on June 20, 2008, 09:59:52 PM
Are you supposed to tip hookers?
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Post by: Puckoon on June 20, 2008, 10:07:21 PM
Quote from: fred the red on June 20, 2008, 09:59:52 PM
Are you supposed to tip hookers?

Leppers usually leave a tip.
Title: Re: Tipping
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 20, 2008, 11:20:03 PM
See I like leaving a tip. Its just when its expected that it bothers me. If you expect a tip then add it to the price and stop making a cod out of both sides.
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Post by: Fluffy Che on June 21, 2008, 10:22:55 AM
Dont mind tipping,silent or grumpy taxi drivers get nowt. Few years ago in the armpit of Indiana at a greasy spoon was served by the short-order cook who had an 9mm pistol strapped to his thigh...now he got a good tip!
Title: Re: Tipping
Post by: Maguire01 on June 21, 2008, 01:11:25 PM
I was a waiter during my University years. Tips made up about half of what i made. I wouldn't have done the the job otherwise and I'm glad i don't have to do it any more. I've worked in factories, stacked turf in the bog and numerous other 'manual labour' type jobs and none of them were as tough as being a waiter - regular 12 hour shifts with one or two (very) short breaks if you were lucky and it was quiet.

As such, i would tip in restaurants, but only where it was earned.  For example, if the waiting staff were rude or unhelpful, they'd get nothing.  I also don't feel obliged to tip 10% if the bill is huge and a large proportion of it due to the cost of wine/alcohol, although if it's a big table, it's easy for everyone to stick in £2.

I also tip the hairdresser (if they do a decent job!) - just tell them to keep the change.  Have also let taximen keep the change, but that's the exception rather than the rule - i wouldn't be a fan of taximen in general.
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Post by: Square Ball on June 21, 2008, 01:53:31 PM
I hate the way they add a service charge to parties of, say 10 and over. what is that all about?
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Post by: fred the red on June 21, 2008, 01:55:09 PM
Do people think its right to tip the pokeman?
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Post by: Yes I Would on June 21, 2008, 02:43:41 PM
Imporatnt tip for everyone!! Never eat yellow snow!!
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Post by: Maguire01 on June 21, 2008, 05:35:42 PM
Quote from: Square Ball on June 21, 2008, 01:53:31 PM
I hate the way they add a service charge to parties of, say 10 and over. what is that all about?
It's because large tables are a lot of work for the waiting staff. And a waiter/waitress can spend all night working on one large table who may then pay without tipping, whereas if they'd had the same number of people in tables of 2 or 4, they'd most likely have been tipped by the majority.
At the end of the day, tipping is discretionary - even when added to your bill as part of a big table.  If you don't want to pay it, you don't have to. It might cause a fuss however, and unless the service was crap, i'd have no problem paying it. At the end of the day, if you can afford to eat/drink out in the first place, then surely a couple of quid isn't going to break the bank(?)
Title: Re: Tipping
Post by: mannix on June 21, 2008, 11:23:55 PM
I know a waiter in the us of a that gets about 300 dollars a week in tips, he has to pay some other lads out of that, busboy and other dogsbody get about 80 dollars.
Tipping is bad, the worker shuld not have to count on charity to make ends meet.
Title: Re: Tipping
Post by: Maguire01 on June 22, 2008, 12:43:02 PM
Quote from: mannix on June 21, 2008, 11:23:55 PM
I know a waiter in the us of a that gets about 300 dollars a week in tips, he has to pay some other lads out of that, busboy and other dogsbody get about 80 dollars.
Tipping is bad, the worker shuld not have to count on charity to make ends meet.
Charity?
Title: Re: Tipping
Post by: mannix on June 22, 2008, 10:16:27 PM
He has to pay his employer for the rags used to wipe the tables. Tipping is no way for people to live, granted some do make a lot of cash, most do not.
Pay the people a wage and let the employer do the worrying, an employee busting his ass and not being sure of getting paid is wrong and should be outlawed.
Title: Re: Tipping
Post by: Maguire01 on June 22, 2008, 11:58:41 PM
But, to be fair to the employers, running a restaurant isn't easy and is no ticket to print money (as evidenced by the number of restaurants that fail). Margins are tight and increasing staff wages would obviously have to be passed straight back to the customer.
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Post by: Rav67 on June 23, 2008, 01:35:31 AM
Sometimes I say to taximen to keep the change if its a quid or 2, apart from that just if I was eating out.

When I was in US you feel under pressure to tip all the time though- hairdressers, every time you get a beer, even ordering fast food they expect it and the worst thing i when they start chatting to you when you've ordered and you know fine well its just so you'll feel obliged to give a tip.  I hate that about America, not being sure if someone's being nice just to be dead on or if it's to get $ out of you.  I'd give very genorously out there just so I don't look tight, but then curse the bastards after!
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Post by: Puckoon on June 23, 2008, 05:05:31 AM
Quote from: Maguire01 on June 22, 2008, 11:58:41 PM
But, to be fair to the employers, running a restaurant isn't easy and is no ticket to print money (as evidenced by the number of restaurants that fail). Margins are tight and increasing staff wages would obviously have to be passed straight back to the customer.

Resturaunts fail because of bad management, poor menus, zero innovation or incentive for the customer to come back. The food and drink trade is undoubtedly a license to print money. The margins in all those chain resturaunts, and casino resturaunts that charge 15$ for a burger, surely that money is not all on overhead and staffing? You can make that burger for pittance.

A good resturaunt, in a half decent area, should never fail.
Title: Re: Tipping
Post by: Silky on June 23, 2008, 11:30:32 AM
You really have to tip in resturants unless the service is sh*te. I wouldn't tip anybody else, especially not taxi men.
Title: Re: Tipping
Post by: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on June 23, 2008, 12:12:31 PM
Is the states really that bad for tipping?
Would you be expected to tip in say; shops, McDonalds, Cinema, everything you ordered a pint?

I'm pretty bad for tipping (do it too much!), does the wifes head in, I'd be going for a note or notes and she'd be handing me some shrapenal!  :D
Title: Re: Tipping
Post by: gander on June 23, 2008, 12:20:26 PM
Think its the custom to tip in America cause no where has a service charge.  Over here is different as thats all included in the price.  I normally leave a few quid extra unless the service was shite.
Title: Re: Tipping
Post by: lynchbhoy on June 23, 2008, 01:02:07 PM
I hear teachers are too poor to tip, but are strangely somewhat happy about this!
(or pretend to be)
;)