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Title: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: Bord na Mona man on June 14, 2008, 04:36:47 PM
0-8 to 2-0 in favour of Dublin.
This could well be Dublin's first win over one of the big names in a very long time.
A long way to go, but Wexford look to be in trouble.
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: HowdyDoody on June 14, 2008, 04:50:54 PM
wat the score now
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: HowdyDoody on June 14, 2008, 05:01:58 PM
35 mins to score a point in hurling...good christ
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: Bord na Mona man on June 14, 2008, 05:12:52 PM
0-11 to 2-2.
Dublin starting to hit wides now.
Their scoring rate slowed as half time approached also.
Have a funny feeling Wexford could pip them by the end!
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: DUBSFORSAM1 on June 14, 2008, 05:20:55 PM
Dublin should have been out of sight at half time and look like they could end up losing this one...
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: The Real Laoislad on June 14, 2008, 05:57:05 PM
Enjoyable game,Dublin should have won and they looked like they had lost it at the end..
Hope they win the replay.
Does anyone know when/where the reply is? The most sensible option would be to put it on with the Laois v Wexford semi final in Croke Park next week,It might generate a big enough crowd as otherwise the stadium will be empty enough,But we know the Gaa don't usually do the sensible thing but here's hoping
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: INDIANA on June 14, 2008, 06:32:54 PM
its on in croker on sunday week. i couldn't make it through work but managed to skive off to watch it( i hope my boss isn't a moderator here!). Dublin threw it away.
But i was very disapointed with Dublin today, we didn't play anywhere near what we're capable of. neither did wexford and the standard overall was disappointing. People will say dublin have blown it but to be honest we can play a lot better than that. first touch wasn't great,shaky at the back,striking let us down, missed chances, wrong options. Even if we had of won i wouldn't be on here shouting from the rooftops, we're better than that today and i thought at the end wexford should have nicked it.
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: The Real Laoislad on June 14, 2008, 07:09:25 PM
That Dublin hurler from St.Marks who took the frees..his name escapes me now.. Calllaghan?? but he is a savage hurler.
Not rising here but if Dublin do get to the Leinster Final or beyond do ye think the Hill 16 "fans" would start turning up to their games?
I would love to see Dublin hurlers do well,they have some nice tidy hurlers.They are a long way off beating Kilkenny but the gap is closing imho
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: Hound on June 14, 2008, 07:24:18 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on June 14, 2008, 07:09:25 PM
That Dublin hurler from St.Marks who took the frees..his name escapes me now.. Calllaghan?? but he is a savage hurler.
Not rising here but if Dublin do get to the Leinster Final or beyond do ye think the Hill 16 "fans" would start turning up to their games?
I would love to see Dublin hurlers do well,they have some nice tidy hurlers.They are a long way off beating Kilkenny but the gap is closing imho

David "Dotsie" O'Callaghan. He was great alright. Pity we didnt feed him more in the last 20 instead of shooting from far out. We really did throw it away, but luckily Wexford didnt capitalise in the end.

The hurlers will not get the fans in huge numbers until they get a higher profile. Playing in an exciting game like today will help. Would be fantastic for them to get on a double bill with Dublin v Westmeath, but that may not be feasible. But having said that the hurlers do have a decent enough hard core support.
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: Bord na Mona man on June 14, 2008, 07:59:41 PM
Since Johnny Dooley mugged Wexford with a last minute goal 10 years ago, I don't recall Wexford ever being beaten in a tight championship finish.
Since then they have ground out some great wins and draws in tight battles.

In 2001 Damian Fitzhenry beat Limerick with a last minute free. They drew with Tipp with 3 second half goals in the next match.
In the 2003 championship they narrowly edged out both Waterford and Offaly and drew with Cork.
In 2004 they beat Kilkenny with a last minute goal.
In 2006, they beat Offaly by a late point.
Last year they beat Dublin and Tipp by one and two points respectively

Granted when they have lost, they have been fairly whupped, but if they are ever within touching distance, they always manage to hang on and survive.

That's why Dublin's lead of only 4 points at half time was always going to be perilous. Dublin also needed to rattle the net to make Wexford heads drop when they were on top.

I think Dublin still need to break the psychological barrier of beating Wexford, Offaly or Kilkenny in Leinster. Beating Offaly in 1991 is their last scalp. While there is talk of Dublin being the second best team in Leinster, they still need to actually beat the third and fourth best team in Leinster to make this a reality.

They won't get a better chance than today, but I think the advantage is back with Wexford after how the game panned out today.

Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: magickingdom on June 14, 2008, 08:10:39 PM
delighted to see the dubs at least getting the draw, dont think losing by a point from another late free would have being easy to come back from. think the dubs will be favourite the next day in croker..
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: The Real Laoislad on June 14, 2008, 08:12:24 PM
Quote from: Hound on June 14, 2008, 07:24:18 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on June 14, 2008, 07:09:25 PM
That Dublin hurler from St.Marks who took the frees..his name escapes me now.. Calllaghan?? but he is a savage hurler.
Not rising here but if Dublin do get to the Leinster Final or beyond do ye think the Hill 16 "fans" would start turning up to their games?
I would love to see Dublin hurlers do well,they have some nice tidy hurlers.They are a long way off beating Kilkenny but the gap is closing imho

David "Dotsie" O'Callaghan. He was great alright. Pity we didnt feed him more in the last 20 instead of shooting from far out. We really did throw it away, but luckily Wexford didnt capitalise in the end.

The hurlers will not get the fans in huge numbers until they get a higher profile. Playing in an exciting game like today will help. Would be fantastic for them to get on a double bill with Dublin v Westmeath, but that may not be feasible. But having said that the hurlers do have a decent enough hard core support.

I understand what you mean by having the replay before the Westmeath v Dublin match but in reality it is better to have it before or after the Laois v Wexford match
One reason is whoever wins will have a extra week to prepare for Kilkenny in the Final and also it wouldn't really be fair to ask Wexford fans to cough up twice to go to Croke Park on successive weekends,Anyways i doubt Croke Park would be more than 1/3 full even if it was on before the Westmeath v Dublin match
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: TippEamon on June 14, 2008, 08:59:05 PM
AM i the only one who thought that was the worst example of hurling skills seen this year. The first half was atrocious, Wexford were as bad as i have seen any of the traditionally strong teams for years and Dublin couldnt take proper advantage from it. They had three dead on goal chances and didn't even hit Fitzhenry with any of them. The ground work was non existant, there was about two decent high catches all match from either team and i dont remember anyone picking out a decent pass into the forwards. The wides from Dublin in the second half especially were criminal, they made Tipp and Cork las week look clinical.

That Tipperary lost to hat Wexford shower last year is almost embarrasig but i think they were better than that. And if anyone carries on with this dream that Dublin are going to strengthen to begin to take on KK any time soon i will be amazed. Unless there is serious work and improvement put in both of these panels are way way off doing anything this summer. Every team in Munster would make mince meat of them both in the qualifiers. Kilkenny need some serious competition in Leinster.
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: Lecale2 on June 15, 2008, 08:47:38 AM
Sorry to see Dublin caught at the end. While they may be a long way off Kilkenny they still need to win this type of game to make progress. I can't see Wexford ever play as badly as they did in the first half again.
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: INDIANA on June 15, 2008, 10:36:45 AM
typical sort of munster reaction i expected. Over the years i have never encountered any fans more arrogant than a tipp hurling fan. that's why i was always personally delighted to see them in the doldrums . Dublin are doing the best they can. takes 20 years to change the mindset of a county -no-one said we would get get within15 points of kilkenny but what would you like us to do?give up altogether?
we should have won yesterday, but i don't think we played well. neither did wexford. it'll be at least 7-8 years before either dublin or wexford or offaly will ever be in a position to beat kilkenny. dublin are highly successful at underage level and they are doing the best they can. Its very difficult for the highly arrogant Tipp fan to understand what its like trying to compete against the stronger code in the county. Take a look at the Tipp footballers Eamon, that's what we started from about 3 years ago.
Alan Mc Crabbe, dublin's best player on the u21 side that reached the all-ireland final last year flew to the USA last week. A county of our modest talents can't afford to be without him, we'd have won yesterday had he been there.But its not gone yet in my view while wexford can improve hugely, so can dublin. i don't think we played anything like what we're capable of yesterday and its not the foregone conclusion all the scribes think it is next week.
I think you gravely overestimate the quality of hurling in munster. Personally while most of the teams would beat dublin and wexford handy, i think like leinster the standard in munster is at an all time low as seen last Sunday. The kilkenny team of the last 3 years would knock the shite out of anything in munster as well. Cork are going backwards, waterford are on the wane, so are limerick. The halycon years of the Munster championship are over too and i believe personally the quality of hurling is dropping rapidly countrywide.
dublin and wexford are trying to rectify that at underage level. Underage level doesn't guarantee anything though and there is littlemore the 2 counties can do like offaly but try to improve for the future. some people in munster would prefer if leinster hurling just disbanded tomorrow. If thats much of a difficulty to watch it Eamon then switch the channel and watch f****** Euro 2008.
I watched a recording of tyrone and down on the web last night in the ulster football championship expecting the usual punchup. Classic game. Hurling used to put football in the shade. it doesn't anymore. Worrying times ahead for us hurling fans. And that includes Munster hurling if they'd ever take their heads out of the sand. Hurling is at its lowest ebb ever in my view in terms of standard.
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: groundlie on June 15, 2008, 12:34:29 PM
Quote from: TippEamon on June 14, 2008, 08:59:05 PM
AM i the only one who thought that was the worst example of hurling skills seen this year. The first half was atrocious, Wexford were as bad as i have seen any of the traditionally strong teams for years and Dublin couldnt take proper advantage from it. They had three dead on goal chances and didn't even hit Fitzhenry with any of them. The ground work was non existant, there was about two decent high catches all match from either team and i dont remember anyone picking out a decent pass into the forwards. The wides from Dublin in the second half especially were criminal, they made Tipp and Cork las week look clinical.

That Tipperary lost to hat Wexford shower last year is almost embarrassing but i think they were better than that. And if anyone carries on with this dream that Dublin are going to strengthen to begin to take on KK any time soon i will be amazed. Unless there is serious work and improvement put in both of these panels are way way off doing anything this summer. Every team in Munster would make mince meat of them both in the qualifiers. Kilkenny need some serious competition in Leinster.


Thats abit rich coming from a Tipp man, considering Wexford gave you's a fierce spanking in last years 1/4 final!! I wouldnt be surprised if they did it again. Wouldnt be getting too cocky down in Tipp, Clare and Limerick will want to cut the tripe out of ye!

Anyway, I thought it was an exciting championship match, 2nd half two teams gave their all which made it great to watch.

I thought Joey Boland was man of the match, he was everywhere in that half back line for Dublin, Tom Brady was also excellent. If the dubs forwards got a bit of shooting practise done during the week, they'll take wexford on sunday.
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: dodo on June 16, 2008, 11:29:26 AM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on June 14, 2008, 07:59:41 PM
Since Johnny Dooley mugged Wexford with a last minute goal 10 years ago, I don't recall Wexford ever being beaten in a tight championship finish.
Since then they have ground out some great wins and draws in tight battles.

In 2001 Damian Fitzhenry beat Limerick with a last minute free. They drew with Tipp with 3 second half goals in the next match.
In the 2003 championship they narrowly edged out both Waterford and Offaly and drew with Cork.
In 2004 they beat Kilkenny with a last minute goal.
In 2006, they beat Offaly by a late point.
Last year they beat Dublin and Tipp by one and two points respectively

Granted when they have lost, they have been fairly whupped, but if they are ever within touching distance, they always manage to hang on and survive.

That's why Dublin's lead of only 4 points at half time was always going to be perilous. Dublin also needed to rattle the net to make Wexford heads drop when they were on top.

I think Dublin still need to break the psychological barrier of beating Wexford, Offaly or Kilkenny in Leinster. Beating Offaly in 1991 is their last scalp. While there is talk of Dublin being the second best team in Leinster, they still need to actually beat the third and fourth best team in Leinster to make this a reality.

They won't get a better chance than today, but I think the advantage is back with Wexford after how the game panned out today.



2002 Leinster final
Kilkenny 0-19    Wexford 0-17
Maybe the exception to the rule, but I was at this match. Paul Codd kept Wexford in the match with some excellent frees.
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: thejuice on June 21, 2008, 12:08:32 PM
Would be nice to see Dublin win this game, though they wont bring much of a challenge to kilkenny,
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: INDIANA on June 21, 2008, 01:27:22 PM
the pick of wexford and dublin wouldn't challenge kilkenny but we're in a nice position tomorrow, everyone expects us to lose.
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: The Real Laoislad on June 21, 2008, 02:30:20 PM
Quote from: thejuice on June 21, 2008, 12:08:32 PM
Would be nice to see Dublin win this game, though they wont bring much of a challenge to kilkenny,
I dunno about that,While i would expect Kilkenny to win i would also think Dublin could put it up to them for 50mins
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: INDIANA on June 21, 2008, 02:53:40 PM
more likely 15 mins mate. i don't think wexford would fare much better either. its another level.
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: davereilly on June 21, 2008, 07:16:51 PM
2-00 to 0-03

looks like a f**king camogie score! :D
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: groundlie on June 22, 2008, 12:36:02 AM
Come on the DUBS
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: Tankie on June 22, 2008, 04:06:49 PM
is rte streaming ok for everyone as mine keeps skiping
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: Kerry Mike on June 22, 2008, 05:10:53 PM
Where are all the great Jackeen supporters today. Your hurlers are in a Leinster semi final in your own back yard and yet Croke Park looks about 1/4 full at most. Shameful.
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: HowdyDoody on June 22, 2008, 05:15:41 PM
at least they have a hurling team
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: HowdyDoody on June 22, 2008, 05:24:10 PM
the cats will have it handy
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: Tankie on June 22, 2008, 05:34:32 PM
Quote from: Kerry Mike on June 22, 2008, 05:10:53 PM
Where are all the great Jackeen supporters today. Your hurlers are in a Leinster semi final in your own back yard and yet Croke Park looks about 1/4 full at most. Shameful.

Whats Hurling?? i think we should pull a kerry and dump the sport altogether
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: INDIANA on June 22, 2008, 07:01:36 PM
f*** off tankie and stick to the football. dublin were poor today and i'd fear for wexford in the final. a good side would have beaten us easily today. a complete revamp of the team required, from mangament to players and lets start playing our underage talent rather than having them sitting on the bench. very disappointing but wexford were much better and will at least give kk a game for 30 mins but will probably be minced by the end
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: Tankie on June 23, 2008, 04:20:47 PM
Chill out INDIANA  its just my view of Dublin hurling, i just think we would be better off putting our resources into football and try win that. With hurling we are not even talking about winning anything and every year is just about beating a bad Wexford team which we cannot do!
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: The Real Laoislad on June 24, 2008, 07:27:40 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 23, 2008, 04:20:47 PM
Chill out INDIANA  its just my view of Dublin hurling, i just think we would be better off putting our resources into football and try win that. With hurling we are not even talking about winning anything and every year is just about beating a bad Wexford team which we cannot do!

Why bother even coming over to the Hurling side of the board if all your gonna shite on about is how Dublin should throw the towel in and forget about hurling..and yes i know its a discussion board and you have everyright to your opinion but seriously why would you bother  ???
There are plenty of fellas from Dublin who don't care about football,it's fairly evident here where i am in Lucan,every evening there are youngfellas out on the greens pucking hurling balls around the place..Just because the fair weather fans who go to the Hill on football days and don't make the effort to go to the hurling games doesn't make it any less important than football..


INDIANA I think your are being a tad harsh on the Dublin hurlers,They are in my opinion at the level Wexford are at and i would also put them ahead of Offaly
If they keep going they way they are,and as you say also introduce the underage talent(not that that always works..look at Laois football) I do believe they will be able compete and hopefully someday soon beat the likes of Kilkenny,Cork etc..I do believe they are already at the same level as Wexford,I wouldn't be so harsh on them.
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: INDIANA on June 24, 2008, 08:17:09 PM
I re-iterate tankie feck off and stick to football  we don't need ignoramuses on this side of the divide and if your only contribution is that sort of shite than stick to man u during the season and the dublin footballers during the summer.

to be honest laoislad, the current management has brought them as far as they can. I genuinely tip my hat to Naughton he took it when no-one else wanted it and he's done a good job i think but 4 years is probably long enough now. We don't have enough players at that standard yet and i do think the managment could have used a few more of the underage players, because at least they have the skill level if not the experience. the lack of technical skills is killing us still at senior level and wexford were a little bit cuter than us. They'll give kk a run for 30 mins but that's it.
I agree 100% on the underage thing, it guarantees nothing. but unfortuantely its the only way that gives you a chance of ever getting better in the future. we're still a couple of years away. But there are no guarantees but at least the dual player isn't an issue anymore, we've got rid of that out of the development teams which might give us a chance later on. We probably need a specialist skills coach at senior level now.
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: Tankie on June 24, 2008, 11:18:30 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on June 24, 2008, 08:17:09 PM
I re-iterate tankie feck off and stick to football  we don't need ignoramuses on this side of the divide and if your only contribution is that sort of shite than stick to man u during the season and the dublin footballers during the summer.


Stop talking shite Indiana, just because somebody doesnt agree with ur view point you cannot start calling them Man U fans and summer fans.

You really can talk some bollox
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: The Real Laoislad on June 24, 2008, 11:31:41 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 24, 2008, 11:18:30 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on June 24, 2008, 08:17:09 PM
I re-iterate tankie feck off and stick to football  we don't need ignoramuses on this side of the divide and if your only contribution is that sort of shite than stick to man u during the season and the dublin footballers during the summer.


Stop talking shite Indiana, just because somebody doesnt agree with ur view point you cannot start calling them Man U fans and summer fans.

You really can talk some bollox

In fairness Tankie what do you exepct when you are coming onto a thread/discussion section solely about Hurling saying stuff like you think Hurling should be done away with in Dublin,Thats uncall for in my opinion,As i said your entitled to your opinion but i could only imagine your reaction if someone went on to your precious Leinster rugby website saying things like rugby should be outlawed and all the money put into hurling..
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: Tankie on June 24, 2008, 11:37:01 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on June 24, 2008, 11:31:41 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 24, 2008, 11:18:30 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on June 24, 2008, 08:17:09 PM
I re-iterate tankie feck off and stick to football  we don't need ignoramuses on this side of the divide and if your only contribution is that sort of shite than stick to man u during the season and the dublin footballers during the summer.


Stop talking shite Indiana, just because somebody doesnt agree with ur view point you cannot start calling them Man U fans and summer fans.

You really can talk some bollox

In fairness Tankie what do you exepct when you are coming onto a thread/discussion section solely about Hurling saying stuff like you think Hurling should be done away with in Dublin,Thats uncall for in my opinion,As i said your entitled to your opinion but i could only imagine your reaction if someone went on to your precious Leinster rugby website saying things like rugby should be outlawed and all the money put into hurling..

Never said hurling should be outlawed i just think we invest too much into something with little return when our number one sport is struggle on and off the pitch.

Also i didnt come onto the thread giving out about hurling as I only came to see was anyone else having problem streaming the game on RTE and just made a comment in response to a kerry man having a joke. I generally stay away from the hurling thread so i don't get into conversations like this, but there is a huge amount of people in Dublin GAA that would agree with me!
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: The Real Laoislad on June 24, 2008, 11:39:26 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 24, 2008, 11:37:01 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on June 24, 2008, 11:31:41 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 24, 2008, 11:18:30 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on June 24, 2008, 08:17:09 PM
I re-iterate tankie feck off and stick to football  we don't need ignoramuses on this side of the divide and if your only contribution is that sort of shite than stick to man u during the season and the dublin footballers during the summer.


Stop talking shite Indiana, just because somebody doesnt agree with ur view point you cannot start calling them Man U fans and summer fans.

You really can talk some bollox

In fairness Tankie what do you exepct when you are coming onto a thread/discussion section solely about Hurling saying stuff like you think Hurling should be done away with in Dublin,Thats uncall for in my opinion,As i said your entitled to your opinion but i could only imagine your reaction if someone went on to your precious Leinster rugby website saying things like rugby should be outlawed and all the money put into hurling..

Never said hurling should be outlawed i just think we invest too much into something with little return when our number one sport is struggle on and off the pitch.

Also i didnt come onto the thread giving out about hurling as I only came to see was anyone else having problem streaming the game on RTE and just made a comment in response to a kerry man having a joke. I generally stay away from the hurling thread so i don't get into conversations like this, but there is a huge amount of people in Dublin GAA that would agree with me!



You never said Hurling should be outlawed  ???

Quote
Quote from: Tankie on June 22, 2008, 05:34:32 PM
Whats Hurling?? i think we should pull a kerry and dump the sport altogether
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: Tankie on June 24, 2008, 11:47:59 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 22, 2008, 05:34:32 PM
Quote from: Kerry Mike on June 22, 2008, 05:10:53 PM
Where are all the great Jackeen supporters today. Your hurlers are in a Leinster semi final in your own back yard and yet Croke Park looks about 1/4 full at most. Shameful.

Whats Hurling?? i think we should pull a kerry and dump the sport altogether


Read the thread LaoisLad and you will see how the conversation was going - and if you cannot see that that is an off the cuff comment in response to Kerry Mike having a laugh thats your issue.

Also are we really gonna go back down that road of trying to take each other out of context? hows that British Soccer team you support? good to see you came back for GAA season  ;)
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: HowdyDoody on June 25, 2008, 03:27:13 AM
i hope dublin hurling comes on....Offaly and Wexford are not the teams they used to be...Hopefully Antrim and especially Galway join the Leinster Championship..Up DURROW HARPS
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: The Real Laoislad on June 25, 2008, 07:58:53 AM
Quote from: Tankie on June 24, 2008, 11:47:59 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 22, 2008, 05:34:32 PM
Quote from: Kerry Mike on June 22, 2008, 05:10:53 PM
Where are all the great Jackeen supporters today. Your hurlers are in a Leinster semi final in your own back yard and yet Croke Park looks about 1/4 full at most. Shameful.

Whats Hurling?? i think we should pull a kerry and dump the sport altogether


Read the thread LaoisLad and you will see how the conversation was going - and if you cannot see that that is an off the cuff comment in response to Kerry Mike having a laugh thats your issue.

Also are we really gonna go back down that road of trying to take each other out of context? hows that British Soccer team you support? good to see you came back for GAA season  ;)

Its amazing the amount of times you always claim your "taken out of context" maybe if you stopped talking shite you wouldn't be so mis understood  ::)
Run along now back to your fair weather homies on the Hill their's a good boy,And leave the hurling to those who do have a interest in it
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: AZOffaly on June 25, 2008, 09:20:14 AM
If Kilkenny moved off to some European super league, or were made play their under 21s or something, we'd actually have a decent Leinster championship now, in competitive terms if not standards wise. I see Laoislad reckons that Wexford and Dublin have passed out Offaly at senior level, well, maybe they have, but I think all three of those teams are very closely matched. Certainly Dublin haven't beaten Offaly since 1991 or something, and Wexford and Offaly is always a close game, as is Dublin Wexford.

Kilkenny are really skewing the picture in Leinster because they are so good, but the under 21 Championship has been very good for the past few years, as all 4 teams, plus the likes of Carlow are quite competitive.
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: INDIANA on June 25, 2008, 09:47:03 AM
thats my point as well that the only team in munster to have ever been at kilkenny's level is cork, the rest including waterford haven't and the standard of munster is actually going back as well. we haven't had one good game of hurling this year.
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: Tankie on June 25, 2008, 10:15:52 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on June 25, 2008, 07:58:53 AM
Quote from: Tankie on June 24, 2008, 11:47:59 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 22, 2008, 05:34:32 PM
Quote from: Kerry Mike on June 22, 2008, 05:10:53 PM
Where are all the great Jackeen supporters today. Your hurlers are in a Leinster semi final in your own back yard and yet Croke Park looks about 1/4 full at most. Shameful.

Whats Hurling?? i think we should pull a kerry and dump the sport altogether


Read the thread LaoisLad and you will see how the conversation was going - and if you cannot see that that is an off the cuff comment in response to Kerry Mike having a laugh thats your issue.

Also are we really gonna go back down that road of trying to take each other out of context? hows that British Soccer team you support? good to see you came back for GAA season  ;)

Its amazing the amount of times you always claim your "taken out of context" maybe if you stopped talking shite you wouldn't be so mis understood  ::)
Run along now back to your fair weather homies on the Hill their's a good boy,And leave the hurling to those who do have a interest in it

I think its generally only you who takes me out of contect by taking maybe online from a conversation and only posting that, Why is this? .......Maybe its because your a WUM!

Roll on soccer season and we get rid of you again when you run off in another huff just to come back when you realise thta nobody ever missed you! Must be handy being from Laois as they are out of everything by the time your British soccer team start playing!
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: The Real Laoislad on June 25, 2008, 05:09:21 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 25, 2008, 10:15:52 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on June 25, 2008, 07:58:53 AM
Quote from: Tankie on June 24, 2008, 11:47:59 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 22, 2008, 05:34:32 PM
Quote from: Kerry Mike on June 22, 2008, 05:10:53 PM
Where are all the great Jackeen supporters today. Your hurlers are in a Leinster semi final in your own back yard and yet Croke Park looks about 1/4 full at most. Shameful.

Whats Hurling?? i think we should pull a kerry and dump the sport altogether


Read the thread LaoisLad and you will see how the conversation was going - and if you cannot see that that is an off the cuff comment in response to Kerry Mike having a laugh thats your issue.

Also are we really gonna go back down that road of trying to take each other out of context? hows that British Soccer team you support? good to see you came back for GAA season  ;)

Its amazing the amount of times you always claim your "taken out of context" maybe if you stopped talking shite you wouldn't be so mis understood  ::)
Run along now back to your fair weather homies on the Hill their's a good boy,And leave the hurling to those who do have a interest in it

I think its generally only you who takes me out of contect by taking maybe online from a conversation and only posting that, Why is this? .......Maybe its because your a WUM!

Roll on soccer season and we get rid of you again when you run off in another huff just to come back when you realise thta nobody ever missed you! Must be handy being from Laois as they are out of everything by the time your British soccer team start playing!

You must think your hitting some sort of nerve when you keep mentioning my love of soccer,Or why even do you bring it into a debate about hurling in Dublin?.I find this strange and rather funny as i have never denied the fact that i love soccer,I don't see it as a reason to be embarrassed,I would be more embarrassed if i was to say i thought my county should give up playing Hurling..Also why do you keep saying British soccer? Have you just a problem with just British soccer or is it all of soccer? Me i love all soccer British,European,World..So really you don't have to keep telling me that i do..But i also love hurling and Gaelic,believe it or not it is possible to have more than one interest in life
Now if you really have nothing to ad to the Hurling discussion board please leave,as you are dragging me and this side of the board down to your level,If you are just going to reply to this post with more insults to myself please just send me a pm..
Regards
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: The Real Laoislad on June 25, 2008, 05:14:19 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 25, 2008, 09:20:14 AM
If Kilkenny moved off to some European super league, or were made play their under 21s or something, we'd actually have a decent Leinster championship now, in competitive terms if not standards wise. I see Laoislad reckons that Wexford and Dublin have passed out Offaly at senior level, well, maybe they have, but I think all three of those teams are very closely matched. Certainly Dublin haven't beaten Offaly since 1991 or something, and Wexford and Offaly is always a close game, as is Dublin Wexford.

Kilkenny are really skewing the picture in Leinster because they are so good, but the under 21 Championship has been very good for the past few years, as all 4 teams, plus the likes of Carlow are quite competitive.

That wasn't intended as a rise AZ,its just my opinion..And i said i think Dublin has passed Offaly out,I would have thought Wexford have been above Offaly for a few years..
But when i said they are above them i wasn't talking in any massive terms,Certainly they are very closely matched but i would think Dublin are ahead of Offaly if maybe only slighty
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: Tankie on June 25, 2008, 05:22:05 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on June 25, 2008, 05:09:21 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 25, 2008, 10:15:52 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on June 25, 2008, 07:58:53 AM
Quote from: Tankie on June 24, 2008, 11:47:59 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 22, 2008, 05:34:32 PM
Quote from: Kerry Mike on June 22, 2008, 05:10:53 PM
Where are all the great Jackeen supporters today. Your hurlers are in a Leinster semi final in your own back yard and yet Croke Park looks about 1/4 full at most. Shameful.

Whats Hurling?? i think we should pull a kerry and dump the sport altogether


Read the thread LaoisLad and you will see how the conversation was going - and if you cannot see that that is an off the cuff comment in response to Kerry Mike having a laugh thats your issue.

Also are we really gonna go back down that road of trying to take each other out of context? hows that British Soccer team you support? good to see you came back for GAA season  ;)

Its amazing the amount of times you always claim your "taken out of context" maybe if you stopped talking shite you wouldn't be so mis understood  ::)
Run along now back to your fair weather homies on the Hill their's a good boy,And leave the hurling to those who do have a interest in it

I think its generally only you who takes me out of contect by taking maybe online from a conversation and only posting that, Why is this? .......Maybe its because your a WUM!

Roll on soccer season and we get rid of you again when you run off in another huff just to come back when you realise thta nobody ever missed you! Must be handy being from Laois as they are out of everything by the time your British soccer team start playing!

You must think your hitting some sort of nerve when you keep mentioning my love of soccer,Or why even do you bring it into a debate about hurling in Dublin?.I find this strange and rather funny as i have never denied the fact that i love soccer,I don't see it as a reason to be embarrassed,I would be more embarrassed if i was to say i thought my county should give up playing Hurling..Also why do you keep saying British soccer? Have you just a problem with just British soccer or is it all of soccer? Me i love all soccer British,European,World..So really you don't have to keep telling me that i do..But i also love hurling and Gaelic,believe it or not it is possible to have more than one interest in life
Now if you really have nothing to ad to the Hurling discussion board please leave,as you are dragging me and this side of the board down to your level,If you are just going to reply to this post with more insults to myself please just send me a pm..
Regards

Rant all you want LaoisLad but don't take lines from a conversation and highlight them without showing what the conversation was about or in what context it was said. its the type of thing a WUM does and I hope u have grown out of that.

Also I have no problem with you supporting a British Soccer team!
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: The Real Laoislad on June 25, 2008, 05:35:20 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 25, 2008, 05:22:05 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on June 25, 2008, 05:09:21 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 25, 2008, 10:15:52 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on June 25, 2008, 07:58:53 AM
Quote from: Tankie on June 24, 2008, 11:47:59 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 22, 2008, 05:34:32 PM
Quote from: Kerry Mike on June 22, 2008, 05:10:53 PM
Where are all the great Jackeen supporters today. Your hurlers are in a Leinster semi final in your own back yard and yet Croke Park looks about 1/4 full at most. Shameful.

Whats Hurling?? i think we should pull a kerry and dump the sport altogether


Read the thread LaoisLad and you will see how the conversation was going - and if you cannot see that that is an off the cuff comment in response to Kerry Mike having a laugh thats your issue.

Also are we really gonna go back down that road of trying to take each other out of context? hows that British Soccer team you support? good to see you came back for GAA season  ;)

Its amazing the amount of times you always claim your "taken out of context" maybe if you stopped talking shite you wouldn't be so mis understood  ::)
Run along now back to your fair weather homies on the Hill their's a good boy,And leave the hurling to those who do have a interest in it

I think its generally only you who takes me out of contect by taking maybe online from a conversation and only posting that, Why is this? .......Maybe its because your a WUM!

Roll on soccer season and we get rid of you again when you run off in another huff just to come back when you realise thta nobody ever missed you! Must be handy being from Laois as they are out of everything by the time your British soccer team start playing!

You must think your hitting some sort of nerve when you keep mentioning my love of soccer,Or why even do you bring it into a debate about hurling in Dublin?.I find this strange and rather funny as i have never denied the fact that i love soccer,I don't see it as a reason to be embarrassed,I would be more embarrassed if i was to say i thought my county should give up playing Hurling..Also why do you keep saying British soccer? Have you just a problem with just British soccer or is it all of soccer? Me i love all soccer British,European,World..So really you don't have to keep telling me that i do..But i also love hurling and Gaelic,believe it or not it is possible to have more than one interest in life
Now if you really have nothing to ad to the Hurling discussion board please leave,as you are dragging me and this side of the board down to your level,If you are just going to reply to this post with more insults to myself please just send me a pm..
Regards

Rant all you want LaoisLad but don't take lines from a conversation and highlight them without showing what the conversation was about or in what context it was said. its the type of thing a WUM does and I hope u have grown out of that.

Also I have no problem with you supporting a British Soccer team!

You just can't help yourself,Ah well twas to be expected..
Once again please either post about hurling or f**k off,and pm me about anything else you wish to say thats not about hurling
Thanks
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: AZOffaly on June 25, 2008, 06:12:39 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on June 25, 2008, 05:14:19 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 25, 2008, 09:20:14 AM
If Kilkenny moved off to some European super league, or were made play their under 21s or something, we'd actually have a decent Leinster championship now, in competitive terms if not standards wise. I see Laoislad reckons that Wexford and Dublin have passed out Offaly at senior level, well, maybe they have, but I think all three of those teams are very closely matched. Certainly Dublin haven't beaten Offaly since 1991 or something, and Wexford and Offaly is always a close game, as is Dublin Wexford.

Kilkenny are really skewing the picture in Leinster because they are so good, but the under 21 Championship has been very good for the past few years, as all 4 teams, plus the likes of Carlow are quite competitive.

That wasn't intended as a rise AZ,its just my opinion..And i said i think Dublin has passed Offaly out,I would have thought Wexford have been above Offaly for a few years..
But when i said they are above them i wasn't talking in any massive terms,Certainly they are very closely matched but i would think Dublin are ahead of Offaly if maybe only slighty

I didn't think you were taking the rise, a few people would think that. I just think they are all much of a muchness, and Dublin need a championship win over Wexford or Offaly, or both, to reinforce that impression.
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: Tankie on June 25, 2008, 08:35:40 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on June 25, 2008, 05:35:20 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 25, 2008, 05:22:05 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on June 25, 2008, 05:09:21 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 25, 2008, 10:15:52 AM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on June 25, 2008, 07:58:53 AM
Quote from: Tankie on June 24, 2008, 11:47:59 PM
Quote from: Tankie on June 22, 2008, 05:34:32 PM
Quote from: Kerry Mike on June 22, 2008, 05:10:53 PM
Where are all the great Jackeen supporters today. Your hurlers are in a Leinster semi final in your own back yard and yet Croke Park looks about 1/4 full at most. Shameful.

Whats Hurling?? i think we should pull a kerry and dump the sport altogether


Read the thread LaoisLad and you will see how the conversation was going - and if you cannot see that that is an off the cuff comment in response to Kerry Mike having a laugh thats your issue.

Also are we really gonna go back down that road of trying to take each other out of context? hows that British Soccer team you support? good to see you came back for GAA season  ;)

Its amazing the amount of times you always claim your "taken out of context" maybe if you stopped talking shite you wouldn't be so mis understood  ::)
Run along now back to your fair weather homies on the Hill their's a good boy,And leave the hurling to those who do have a interest in it

I think its generally only you who takes me out of contect by taking maybe online from a conversation and only posting that, Why is this? .......Maybe its because your a WUM!

Roll on soccer season and we get rid of you again when you run off in another huff just to come back when you realise thta nobody ever missed you! Must be handy being from Laois as they are out of everything by the time your British soccer team start playing!

You must think your hitting some sort of nerve when you keep mentioning my love of soccer,Or why even do you bring it into a debate about hurling in Dublin?.I find this strange and rather funny as i have never denied the fact that i love soccer,I don't see it as a reason to be embarrassed,I would be more embarrassed if i was to say i thought my county should give up playing Hurling..Also why do you keep saying British soccer? Have you just a problem with just British soccer or is it all of soccer? Me i love all soccer British,European,World..So really you don't have to keep telling me that i do..But i also love hurling and Gaelic,believe it or not it is possible to have more than one interest in life
Now if you really have nothing to ad to the Hurling discussion board please leave,as you are dragging me and this side of the board down to your level,If you are just going to reply to this post with more insults to myself please just send me a pm..
Regards

Rant all you want LaoisLad but don't take lines from a conversation and highlight them without showing what the conversation was about or in what context it was said. its the type of thing a WUM does and I hope u have grown out of that.

Also I have no problem with you supporting a British Soccer team!

You just can't help yourself,Ah well twas to be expected..
Once again please either post about hurling or f**k off,and pm me about anything else you wish to say thats not about hurling
Thanks

I did post about hurling by saying that we would be better off focusing on football but you were too busy being a WUM to see that.
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: The Real Laoislad on June 25, 2008, 09:45:14 PM
Ok Tankie i see what your at,You want the last word,Fair enough i'll play along with your immature ways.
You can reply with whatever you want,And i won't reply ,Therefore giving you the last word...
But honestly i have a have 9 month old niece that has more cop on than you do ::)
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: INDIANA on June 25, 2008, 10:06:22 PM
Tankie the only WUM is yourself. I mean why bother posting on the hurling section if thats all you have. Exactly what a WUM does.
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: Tankie on June 25, 2008, 10:43:21 PM
QuoteChill out INDIANA  its just my view of Dublin hurling, i just think we would be better off putting our resources into football and try win that. With hurling we are not even talking about winning anything and every year is just about beating a bad Wexford team which we cannot do!

This was my post in regard to Dublin hurling the LL decided not to pick up on this but decided to run with a one line off the cuff comment in response to Kerry Mike - Typical of LaoisLad if you follow his trend, doesn't read the conversation just what suits to cause trouble!
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: The Real Laoislad on June 25, 2008, 11:01:09 PM
Who do Dublin play next?
Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: imtommygunn on June 25, 2008, 11:22:09 PM
Yeah was wondering that myself LL.

Dublin seem to have reached a point like some say here where maybe a change of management would do them some good. No matter about good underage hurlers the experienced senior hurlers in Wexford etc would maybe be that bit cuter. The less "cute" teams always seem to get caught for goals in the FB line and Dublin did that alright. In saying that Daviid O'Callaghan looked as threatening as any of the Jacobs.

It'll be interesting to see how the hurling pans out this year. Granted I don't think Wexford will challenge Kilkenny but I'm not sure anyone will. It seems like they are just way ahead of the rest. What Galway will do remains to be seen as they have the players to be the closest.

IMO Dublin are on a par with Wexford / Offaly and will overtake them in 2/3 years. Laois and Antrim would be that bit behind.

Clare, Limerick, Tipp, Cork and Waterford would then be that wee bit above Wexford  / Dublin etc./Offaly. Really where Dublin etc need to be aiming at is beating one of the aforementioned 5 teams.

I have a funny feeling Cork will be there or thereabouts later on in the year though- I still think they could be that bit classier than any of the other "challengers" but given they got beat by Tipp they've to prove it...



Title: Re: Dublin vs Wexford
Post by: INDIANA on June 26, 2008, 12:52:59 AM
dublin have limerick or cork next, if we draw limerick it will be reasonably competiive but we won't get near Cork i'm afraid, no chance. It's a s much a toughness as cuteness, knowing when to pull a jersey and when not to. ie concede a point rather than a goal and our underage teams still haven't learnt that either i'm afraid.