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Title: Premier league team of the season
Post by: anportmorforjfc on May 15, 2008, 01:03:24 PM
This is Andy Gray's and Jamie redknapps selection

                                          David James

  Glen Johnson       Rio Ferdinand     Martin Laursen     Joleon Lescott

                 Cesc Fabregas       Mathieu Flamini      Steven Gerrard

                Cristiano Ronaldo     Fernando Torres    Ashley Young


Good team but i dont think Steven Gerrard or Glen Johnston should be included.  Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: maxpower on May 15, 2008, 01:08:53 PM
Decent team, i only watch games involving Man utd so not in best position to pick a team of the year but i would have thought Evra would have been there or thereabouts.  He's been exceptional this year, Vidic is also unlucky but i def have Rio in ahead of him.
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: Minder on May 15, 2008, 01:10:19 PM
Glen Johnson would have been in most "best teams" if he played for the top 4, he has been very impressive this year. Lescotts goal return has been sensational for a defender.
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: lurganblue on May 15, 2008, 01:13:17 PM
good team. infact i think its a better reflection than the team that tube crooks picked on the bbc website.  yet both teams had Stevie G in them... did i miss something? i dont think he would have merited an inclusion anyway!
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: Minder on May 15, 2008, 01:17:01 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on May 15, 2008, 01:13:17 PM
good team. infact i think its a better reflection than the team that tube crooks picked on the bbc website.  yet both teams had Stevie G in them... did i miss something? i dont think he would have merited an inclusion anyway!

Thats the thing Lurganblue, it is their opinion, not yours......
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: spiritof91and94 on May 15, 2008, 01:17:48 PM
Bacary Sagna and Patrice Evra the two best wing in the premiership without doubt. imo
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: lurganblue on May 15, 2008, 01:18:47 PM
ok here is crooks´team

DAVID JAMES (Portsmouth)
 

His selection emphasises the season he has had - he has regained the England number one spot and I agree with that.

James has been instrumental in Portsmouth's progression to the FA Cup final and, for me, the stand-out game was their win at Manchester United, where he was outstanding.

Like all goalkeepers he gets better with age. All keepers are susceptible to the odd clanger but he seems to have overcome the unreliable tag for a wonderful season and to win the FA Cup would be a fitting end.


BACARY SAGNA (Arsenal)
 

Phil Neville was also in contention, being in the unique position of being a midfielder or a right-back, but as a consequence it was hard to put him in either position, so I have gone for Sagna.

The injury he sustained at Chelsea has put him at disadvantage but I have given my vote to Sagna.

He was having a fantastic year until he picked up the ankle problem and that injury, along with Eduardo's, may have cost Arsenal the title.


PATRICE EVRA (Manchester United)
 

He gets in the team just ahead of Gael Clichy of Arsenal.

They were neck and neck all season but it is hard not to go with him as he is a championship winner.

I have tried very had through the year to focus on my team of the week votes but I have also had to take into account where teams finished and what they achieved.


RIO FERDINAND (Manchester United)
 

Rio is in the team of the season for the second year running, he is Manchester United and now England captain and I would have him as the skipper of this team too. He has had another magnificent season.


RICARDO CARVALHO (Chelsea)
 

Carvalho has been an unsung hero, a silent and consistent force in Chelsea's back four throughout the whole year - their rock.

He was also their player of the year and if he stands out among that lot, he must be pretty good.


CRISTIANO RONALDO (Manchester United)
 

Simply the best player in the world at the moment. That's it.


STEVEN GERRARD (Liverpool)
 

Alongside Rio Ferdinand, Steven Gerrard is the only player to make my team of the season for the second season running, which demonstrates his amazing consistency.



CESC FABREGAS (Arsenal)
 

He has put in some outstanding performances for Arsenal this season. Their future success depends upon his future at the club.


MICHAEL BALLACK (Chelsea)
 

He won a lot of team of the week selections in the last third of the season and it was always Chelsea's biggest matches - he is clearly a player for the big occasion. If Chelsea win the Champions League, it will centre on him.


FERNANDO TORRES (Liverpool)
 

He just edges out Emmanuel Adebayor and Roque Santa Cruz, both of whom won a number of weekly selections, but the Spaniard's performances and goals for Liverpool have been the driving force for the Merseysiders this season.

I don't think Benitez's rotation policy has helped but he has still had a fantastic season in spite of that and has adapted to English football superbly.


WAYNE ROONEY (Manchester United)
 

He has picked up team of the week nominations almost unnoticed. I'm quite surprised he was up there but clearly his contributions and goals have come at a vital time for United.

Ronaldo's performances have eclipsed everyone this season, including him, but Rooney has obviously had sufficient goals and games to warrant selection.

He just edged out Yakubu, who had a fantastic season.
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: corn02 on May 15, 2008, 01:20:40 PM
You have to ask questions when the champion only have two players.
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: lurganblue on May 15, 2008, 01:23:12 PM
Quote from: Minder on May 15, 2008, 01:17:01 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on May 15, 2008, 01:13:17 PM
good team. infact i think its a better reflection than the team that tube crooks picked on the bbc website.  yet both teams had Stevie G in them... did i miss something? i dont think he would have merited an inclusion anyway!

Thats the thing Lurganblue, it is their opinion, not yours......

aye but i´m expressing mine now...
i obviously didnt see all the games he played in this season hence me asking did i miss something? from what little i saw he wouldnt make it
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: Uladh on May 15, 2008, 01:26:45 PM

Crooks is a lot closer to the mark
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: Minder on May 15, 2008, 01:29:07 PM
Whenever Crooks mentioned the words "Phil Neville" i knew we could disregard it.........I dont think Rooney would be in too many peoples best XI's either, unless you support United.
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: lurganblue on May 15, 2008, 01:32:19 PM
i agree. i wouldnt have rooney in there either. if you are going for a 442 like crooks it has to be torres and Adebayor, who suprisingly makes neither team.
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: David McKeown on May 15, 2008, 02:16:58 PM
Always find Crooks team strange. Last year he didnt pick Ronaldo who won PFA and writers and young player of the year that year.
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: Billys Boots on May 15, 2008, 03:29:03 PM
QuoteHe was having a fantastic year until he picked up the ankle problem and that injury, along with Eduardo's, may have cost Arsenal the title.

Re. Sagna, I stopped reading after that ...  ::)

Arsenal didn't win the title (in my view anyway) because their defensive midfield set-up (Flamini) was not in the same league as Makalele or Hargreaves (or Mascherano, for that matter).  Sagna didn't help but they had (some) cover for him.  Eduardo's injury was irrelevant.
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: Dannymcfella on May 15, 2008, 03:49:02 PM
                                          David James

   Glen Johnson      Rio Ferdinand     Joleon Lescott    Patrice Evra

   Cristiano Ronaldo    Cesc Fabregas       Mathieu Flamini      Ashley Young

                     Fernando Torres    Emmanuel Adebayor


I know Lescott played at left back for most of the season but I wanted to include Evra as I thought he has been exceptional and Lescott is primarily a centre half, which meant I left Vidic out
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: nrico2006 on May 15, 2008, 03:57:47 PM
Quoteyet both teams had Stevie G in them... did i miss something? i dont think he would have merited an inclusion anyway!

Steven Gerard in midfield is a joke.  He doesnt usually play in there and if he does he is dominated against the Man Uniteds, Chelseas and Arsenals.  Lampard would have got my vote (but mines doesn't count) or someone like Arteta.
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: Minder on May 15, 2008, 04:01:21 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 15, 2008, 03:57:47 PM
Quoteyet both teams had Stevie G in them... did i miss something? i dont think he would have merited an inclusion anyway!

Steven Gerard in midfield is a joke.  He doesnt usually play in there and if he does he is dominated against the Man Uniteds, Chelseas and Arsenals.  Lampard would have got my vote (but mines doesn't count) or someone like Arteta.

Stay off the glue Nrico.......
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: nrico2006 on May 15, 2008, 04:06:37 PM
Sure put Alonso in there  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 15, 2008, 05:30:59 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on May 15, 2008, 01:03:24 PM
This is Andy Gray's and Jamie redknapps selection

                                          David James

  Glen Johnson       Rio Ferdinand     Martin Laursen     Joleon Lescott

                 Cesc Fabregas       Mathieu Flamini      Steven Gerrard

                Cristiano Ronaldo     Fernando Torres    Ashley Young


Good team but i dont think Steven Gerrard or Glen Johnston should be included.  Any thoughts?


You just can't have Rio in there ahead of Vidic that has to be a joke surely??
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: AZOffaly on May 15, 2008, 05:32:47 PM
Laoislad, look who's picking the team. Do you honestly think they would put in Vidic ahead of the England captain?

As for my opinion, I think Ferdinand is much improved these past couple of years, and had a fine season, but I'd have Vidic first.
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 15, 2008, 05:42:35 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 15, 2008, 05:32:47 PM
Laoislad, look who's picking the team. Do you honestly think they would put in Vidic ahead of the England captain?

As for my opinion, I think Ferdinand is much improved these past couple of years, and had a fine season, but I'd have Vidic first.

I'd have Vidic and Dunne as the two best centre backs this season
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: AZOffaly on May 15, 2008, 05:43:37 PM
Hmmm. Maybe. I'd be inclined to pick Vidic and Carvelho, or even Vidic and Ferdinand.
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: Farrandeelin on May 15, 2008, 05:53:28 PM
I agree with AZ and LL regarding Vidic, can't believe Andy Gray and Jamie Redknapp don't have him on their team. Ferdinand has improved due to the fact that Vidic is partnering him in the centre of defence. I'd have Tevez on my team of the season. Maybe I am biased but he would be my Utd player of the season as well.
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: Square Ball on May 15, 2008, 07:10:01 PM
me thinks that Vidic would have to be on anyones team, he and Rio compliment eachother and I would put both of them in there, oh may as well stick in Evra for good measure as well
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 15, 2008, 07:38:32 PM
Quote from: Square Ball on May 15, 2008, 07:10:01 PM
me thinks that Vidic would have to be on anyones team, he and Rio compliment eachother and I would put both of them in there, oh may as well stick in Evra for good measure as well

Sure stick John O'Shea in there too while your at it  ::)  :P
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: J70 on May 15, 2008, 10:02:57 PM
All these pundits and players sticking the knife into the hearts of all those United fans by including Gerrard!  :D

It is interesting when you think back to all of the commentary this season about how shite Liverpool were any time Torres and Gerrard didn't play. We had two or three months of "two-man team" comments. He can't have been that bad if that is the case!
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: Minus15 on May 15, 2008, 10:09:48 PM
what's this preoccupation with flamini? before fabregas' form slowed up he was the main man in the Arsenal midfield. Sounds like people on here are overrating him because of his  increased profile with his contract situation and his imminent move to Milan. Nowhere near in the top 2 midfield players this season.

And Nico??? Arteta???? catch a grip! do you watch football? sure put a player in who hasn't played half the season good lad!
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: Yes I Would on May 15, 2008, 11:12:54 PM
The biggest surprise for me in that selection is that Jamie the bore didnt find a space for his old pal and coz Lampard!

As a Liverpool fan dont think Gerrad had a season that warranted inclusion. Vidic is twice the centre half Wio is. Havent seen much of Glen Johnson, but what i seen from him at Chelsae he was a headless chicken!!
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: ExiledGael on May 15, 2008, 11:18:11 PM
As much of a clown as Ferdinand is at times, he is playing better than any other centre-half in world football this last few months.
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: Minus15 on May 15, 2008, 11:20:23 PM
yes and we have all seen headless chickens playing football. their counteparts with heads are much better! lol. i hate that metaphor! :D no offence to you yes i would.
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: The Real Laoislad on May 15, 2008, 11:40:05 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on May 15, 2008, 11:18:11 PM
As much of a clown as Ferdinand is at times, he is playing better than any other centre-half in world football this last few months.

And you have watched copious amounts of World Football to make this bold statement I'm sure?
Big on German/Italian/Spainish/South American/African/Asian etc etc football are you?
Where do you get the time  ???
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: Yes I Would on May 15, 2008, 11:46:12 PM
None taken Minus!

Still to be convinced by Wio, admit he has become a much better player since Vidic has come inat centre half, but against Barcelona thought Brown looked the more accomplished, and think Rio went walkabout against Boro without Vidic to hold his hand.
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: ExiledGael on May 15, 2008, 11:57:43 PM
Don't see too much African or Asian club football, and going by comparative standard I don't think they've too many world class players on the go but I have been known to watch quite a bit of soccer.
See a bit of the South American football, and regularly see League 1 in France, Bundesliga, Serie A and the Primera in Spain, I see enough. It's well enough known who are considered the best defenders in the world anyway, a number in the Premier League have not been near their best. Lucio has been woeful at times for Bayern Munich. Cannavaro the same in Spain. Sergio Ramos is well overrated just because he scores a bit, and Puyol is another limited centre-half.
Caceres and Ayala have done well for Villareal but not near enough on any decent level to say they're better than Ferdinand. Nesta and Materazzi are also nowhere near their best. AC Milan are almost certainly going to have to make do with the UEFA cup next season and Inter are trying their best to throw away the League, with Materazzi the biggest culprit, and he showed at Anfield how good he is against a world class forward.
The next best to Ferdinand lately is probably Carvalho, on the last few months' form.
Is this not a discussion board anyway, think I'm entitled enough to make an opinion.

Agree that Ferdinand has looked the part with Vidic alongside to do the dirty work. Ferdinand will never put his head in where it hurts like Vidic, but mostly because he doesn't have to as his pace, timing, anticipation and positioning is better than that of his partner. The two are a perfect match, where one falls short the other excells.
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: RedandGreenSniper on May 16, 2008, 02:30:41 AM
The Ferdinand Vidic argument is, I think, a very close one. I prefer Vidic myself but think Ferdinand had the better season.
Agree with Exiled Gael that they are an ideal complimentary match.
Can't believe neither Joe Cole or Michael Essien have been mentioned, thought they had great seasons . . .

Team of the year I'd pick would be

James

Johnson  Ferdinand   Carvalho  Clichy

Ronaldo  Fabregas  Essien  Joe Cole

Torres Tevez
Title: Re: Premier league team of the season
Post by: anportmorforjfc on May 16, 2008, 10:44:57 AM
Quote from: RedandGreenSniper on May 16, 2008, 02:30:41 AM
The Ferdinand Vidic argument is, I think, a very close one. I prefer Vidic myself but think Ferdinand had the better season.
Agree with Exiled Gael that they are an ideal complimentary match.
Can't believe neither Joe Cole or Michael Essien have been mentioned, thought they had great seasons . . .

Team of the year I'd pick would be

James

Johnson  Ferdinand   Carvalho  Clichy

Ronaldo  Fabregas  Essien  Joe Cole

Torres Tevez


Good team but would u be a chelsea supporter (Joe Cole + carvalho)