Where the feck will this price stop at?
Just rang 2 suppliers, and for a full fill they were quoting me 54.6p and 55.7p per litre, and for a half fill it was more than 58ppl.
It was 35ppl about 6 months ago.
Oil will soon become unaffordable, though I would imagine that it has already reached this stage for some people.
Buy another sweater.Seriously though, the world seems to be in such turmoil that its hard to know where its headed.
A back boiler and cut down a tree is the cheapest way out but its too time consuming for most people today.Expect oil to get dearer and prepare for it is what am doing.
Paid £260 the other day for 450litres, I paid £205 for the same in January. It's feckin balls
It is a disaster, I have a mate who is in the oil business, and he reckons it is going to continue to climb, So wrap up warm
Correct!!! I know a fella who works in the industry and all the companies are stocking up on it because the price is soaring everyday.... bet the feckers charge a mad amount next month as it rises even though they are buying it that little bit cheaper today!!!!!
I'm sersiously thinking about installing a wood pellet boiler. Anyone got one?
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How much will the boiler cost?
A biomass boiler that would heat a 5 house or a commercial unit up to 3/4000 sq ft would cost approximately £3,890 with a 30% grant for domestic use and a 4 year interest free loan for commercial use.
http://www.treco.co.uk/products/biomass-boilers/
Theres a lot of oil in 4 grand
Getting it to-day for 52p a litre... from a prod as well ;D
Quote from: Bensars on April 22, 2008, 10:45:50 AM
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How much will the boiler cost?
A biomass boiler that would heat a 5 house or a commercial unit up to 3/4000 sq ft would cost approximately £3,890 with a 30% grant for domestic use and a 4 year interest free loan for commercial use.
http://www.treco.co.uk/products/biomass-boilers/
Aye but there is a grant you can get for it, There is a man Mc Namee up in Crossmaglen who deals with them
Theres a lot of oil in 4 grand
I hear a few people talking about these. Just a few questions,
1. Does anyone have one fitted or know someone who has one.
2. How much are the pellets over the course of the winter for example ? ( I realise costs will vary )
3. Do you need much storage space for these pellets
Or someone with a working knowledge, what other options are available ?
I heard there's only one pellet supplier in the country. I don't fancy that setup, if it's true.
there is one main crowd in fermanagh that supply pellets and they ran out of pellets last year, so your fucked! There are a few new suppliers coming on board but they seem to have a nice little arrangment between them and now th eprice of pellets are going up when you would think with the extra business the opposite would be happening. A lot of these alternative heating sourses have so many hidden costs that will cripple you in the long run ( the geo thermal system is a joke, 25k to install and approx 1000-1500/year to run)
Just did a bit of surfing on the Sunstainable Energy Ireland website (http://www.sei.ie/index.asp) and there seems to be quite a lot of info on it.
Looking at the geothermal thing myself but unsure as of yet.They say it will repay its cost in 8 years but only last for 20.It may seem like a long time but jesus the last 20 went by fairly fast.
A solid fuel fire with backboiler will likely be one thing i will go for,trees are plentiful and use electric for cooking.
QuoteA solid fuel fire with backboiler will likely be one thing i will go for,trees are plentiful and use electric for cooking.
Indeed - much better still to go with a stove. Open fire means about 80% of heat gone up the chimney, stove means about 80% dispersed through the house.
Although don't make the fcuk up i made with mine ..... i have a very large double sided stove (about 15 Kw heat output at full felt). Thought i could get sidepanels as alternative to back boilers and plumbed for the same. Nearly brought me to tears when i realised i got this wrong - double sided stove would not support heating of water .... i would have got hot water for up to 20 rads which along with open plan area being heated by stove would have mean't the stove going full whack would have heated all of a house that is close to 3,000 sq ft (could still have got this with a single sided stove of similar dimensions but had a double sided fireplace). Lighting it up at ~3pm requires approx €6 to €8 of fuel per day.
Bord Na Mona smokeless coal - can't recall the exact name. About €14 for a 20kg bag. Using about half a bag a day but this is with a stove where there is far greater efficiency than an open fire, not just re heat output but also in terms of how long the fire will last before you have to put more coal on - i also have a flu damper fitted
Quote from: Smokin Joe on April 22, 2008, 09:55:20 AM
Where the feck will this price stop at?
Just rang 2 suppliers, and for a full fill they were quoting me 54.6p and 55.7p per litre, and for a half fill it was more than 58ppl.
It was 35ppl about 6 months ago.
Oil will soon become unaffordable, though I would imagine that it has already reached this stage for some people.
I'm a slow learner - each time I get oil, I am consistently taken aback by the price, and therefore only buy half a fill. But it just keeps geting more expensive. I paid £285 for 500 litres last week, i.e. 57p a litre. In February I paid £222 for 450 litres, i.e. 49.3p a litre.
I see a gas pipeline being laid on the Armagh road out of Portadown - is it going the whole way to Armagh, and if so, how does natural gas compare to oil?
Despite all the propaganda nonsense to the contrary, its the fact that Oil is priced in Dollars that is the the problem. Until this link is broken ,things will only get worse.
QuoteDespite all the propaganda nonsense to the contrary, its the fact that Oil is priced in Dollars that is the the problem. Until this link is broken ,things will only get worse.
You've hit the nail on the head there, the petrodollar as it is referred to is the crux of the problem. A few years back, Saddam touted the idea of trading oil in Euro rather than $US. He was actually starting to get support with his idea from other oil producing countries, then the whole weapons of mass distruction thing coincidentally came about and the rest is history.
Two years ago Iran resurfaced the idea of trading in Euro and all of a sudden the nuclear question was raised against Iran by the U.S. citing possible military action....coincidentally enough.
What impact would it have if oil was traded in Euro instead of $...America would cease to be a so called 'super power' and their economy would head south very fast indeed.
Does anyone use radiant floor heat?
I came across a product called warmboard www.warmboard.com
They claim their product will improve overall heating costs compared to radiant heating installed in a concrete subfloor.
Don't know if it is available in Ireland but their website does say Europe. Looks like an interesting product that has benefits beyond the heat cost concerns.
Re: Natural Gas - caught something on the news this morning about Phoenix announcing a price rise of 30% shortly!! >:(
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 23, 2008, 10:15:34 AM
Re: Natural Gas - caught something on the news this morning about Phoenix announcing a price rise of 30% shortly!! >:(
aye seen that on the front page of the Irish News today :o
Quote from: illdecide on April 23, 2008, 02:18:35 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 23, 2008, 10:15:34 AM
Re: Natural Gas - caught something on the news this morning about Phoenix announcing a price rise of 30% shortly!! >:(
aye seen that on the front page of the Irish News today :o
Was on radio this morning, Phoenix refused to comment and said that they will be issuing a statement this afternoon.
Seemingly electricty will be hiked up as well, but the fly fcukers are waiting until after some investment conference before making an announcement! >:(
Quote from: Pangurban on April 22, 2008, 10:38:30 PM
Despite all the propaganda nonsense to the contrary, its the fact that Oil is priced in Dollars that is the the problem. Until this link is broken ,things will only get worse.
Surely that's a good thing for euro/sterling consumers? Whilst the dollar price of oil has quadrupled over the past decade, for us the price has only doubled.
I don't see how the currency contributes at all tbh.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7362930.stm
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 23, 2008, 03:14:47 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 23, 2008, 02:18:35 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 23, 2008, 10:15:34 AM
Re: Natural Gas - caught something on the news this morning about Phoenix announcing a price rise of 30% shortly!! >:(
aye seen that on the front page of the Irish News today :o
Was on radio this morning, Phoenix refused to comment and said that they will be issuing a statement this afternoon.
Seemingly electricty will be hiked up as well, but the fly fcukers are waiting until after some investment conference before making an announcement! >:(
To be fair, oil has risen by well in excess of 30%
Quote from: thebandit on April 23, 2008, 04:55:27 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 23, 2008, 03:14:47 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 23, 2008, 02:18:35 PM
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 23, 2008, 10:15:34 AM
Re: Natural Gas - caught something on the news this morning about Phoenix announcing a price rise of 30% shortly!! >:(
aye seen that on the front page of the Irish News today :o
Was on radio this morning, Phoenix refused to comment and said that they will be issuing a statement this afternoon.
Seemingly electricty will be hiked up as well, but the fly fcukers are waiting until after some investment conference before making an announcement! >:(
To be fair, oil has risen by well in excess of 30%
Grand, but it's gas I have in my house! ;)
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on April 22, 2008, 09:50:03 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on April 22, 2008, 09:55:20 AM
Where the feck will this price stop at?
Just rang 2 suppliers, and for a full fill they were quoting me 54.6p and 55.7p per litre, and for a half fill it was more than 58ppl.
It was 35ppl about 6 months ago.
Oil will soon become unaffordable, though I would imagine that it has already reached this stage for some people.
I'm a slow learner - each time I get oil, I am consistently taken aback by the price, and therefore only buy half a fill. But it just keeps geting more expensive. I paid £285 for 500 litres last week, i.e. 57p a litre. In February I paid £222 for 450 litres, i.e. 49.3p a litre.
I see a gas pipeline being laid on the Armagh road out of Portadown - is it going the whole way to Armagh, and if so, how does natural gas compare to oil?
Natural gas is indeed coming to Armagh. It would be cheaper than oil.
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on April 23, 2008, 10:15:34 AM
Seemingly electricty will be hiked up as well, but the fly fcukers are waiting until after some investment conference before making an announcement! >:(
just got my electric bill today and it has risen from 10.69 to 11.11 pence per unit. not that much of an increase really or are they talking about hiking it up even more soon?
Oil has went up 22% from January :o
Quote from: illdecide on April 24, 2008, 09:22:01 AM
Oil has went up 22% from January :o
:o :o :o better dust down the auld slean looks like i will be visiting the bog this year