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Title: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: youbetterbelieveit on March 25, 2008, 09:45:36 AM
Loughnane confirms Canning's inclusion
24 March 2008


Galway hurling boss Ger Loughnane has confirmed that teenage star Joe Canning will be joining up with the county senior squad this coming weekend.

"I'll just be straight honest with you lads," Loughnane told reporters.

"The story is we invited six Portumna lads onto the panel. Everybody that is brought into the Galway panel this year, they have been brought in for a chat beforehand.

"Ollie (Canning) is taking a bit of time to consider whether he will come back or not because it's a very big decision for him. It's a very big chance for him to take.

"We had all the other fellas in - Kevin Hayes, Damien Hayes, Eoin Lynch, Andy Smith and Joe (Canning).

"Joe will be back in. They're all back next weekend."

Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: The Claw on March 25, 2008, 10:42:02 AM
Good news for Galway. I'd say Ollie will come back as well, he hasn't got that long left in the legs. The only problem for Ger now is that he doesnt have the excuse 'well we didnt have two of the best hurlers in the county playing'!
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: AZOffaly on March 25, 2008, 10:54:34 AM
Quote"I'll just be straight honest with you lads," Loughnane told reporters.

That'd be a first for skeletor. I wouldn't believe his radio :D
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: GY Joe on March 25, 2008, 11:33:37 AM
I think Skeletor is a good name for him  :D
I see lads trying to put together a Galway team for the championship. Here is my tuppence worth Skeletor

1. Skehill
2. Dervan/Canning(O)
3. Og Regan
4. Moore
5. Kavanagh
6. Lee
7. Collins/Cullinane
8. A Kerins/ Smyth/Lynch
9. K Hynes
10. Farragher/ A Kerins
11. F Healy
12. Tannion
13. D Hayes
14. Canning
15. N Healy/Wade
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: thejuice on March 25, 2008, 02:09:50 PM
thats a good team, canning is a massive boost, anticipating this year more than others. By the way I follow Galway in the Liam McCarthy, me Dad being from Kiltormer.
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 25, 2008, 02:17:12 PM
Canning is a class act, bu he doesnt exactly seem in great shape for IC Hurling,im guessing that will have to be worked on.
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: the Deel Rover on March 25, 2008, 02:20:40 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 25, 2008, 02:17:12 PM
Canning is a class act, bu he doesnt exactly seem in great shape for IC Hurling,im guessing that will have to be worked on.

Ye he seems a big lad BM but i suppose he just has unreal natural talent see the side line puck he got in the Ai club final. Saying that he seems to have serious upper body strength it will be great to see how he gets on with the seniors
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: dodo on March 25, 2008, 02:25:17 PM
Is Eugene Cloonan on the Galway panel this year ?
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: GY Joe on March 25, 2008, 02:32:08 PM
Quote from: dodo on March 25, 2008, 02:25:17 PM
Is Eugene Cloonan on the Galway panel this year ?
No, did not put his name forward this year. Due in the main to issues with his back needing rest I think.
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: imtommygunn on March 25, 2008, 03:10:53 PM
It'll be very interesting to see how he gets on in county hurling.

Like said before he's maybe a bit big but Ger will maybe work that out of him.

Couldn't see a place for him and Ger Farragher on the one team.
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 25, 2008, 03:56:10 PM
Quote from: dodo on March 25, 2008, 02:25:17 PM
Is Eugene Cloonan on the Galway panel this year ?

No. Eugene opted out. His back has been giving him terrible trouble in recent years.

Hopefully things will go well for the Joe Show but he will need to be given time to settle and adapt to intercounty hurling. As talented as he is it is still a step up for him.
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: timmykelleher on March 25, 2008, 04:16:04 PM
How much adapting will he have to do?
He is after winning 2 all-Ireland club titles and starring in the Fitzgibbon cup.
He is cutting sidelines over the bar and striking frees from 40 yards inside his own half.

Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: AZOffaly on March 25, 2008, 04:24:25 PM
The pace of inter county hurling will be the major difference for him. You don't get the same time on the ball, in general. However, it's not like he's never been marked by inter county defender at Fitzgibbon or Club level.
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: BallyhaiseMan on March 25, 2008, 08:00:46 PM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on March 25, 2008, 02:20:40 PM
Quote from: BallyhaiseMan on March 25, 2008, 02:17:12 PM
Canning is a class act, bu he doesnt exactly seem in great shape for IC Hurling,im guessing that will have to be worked on.

Ye he seems a big lad BM but i suppose he just has unreal natural talent see the side line puck he got in the Ai club final. Saying that he seems to have serious upper body strength it will be great to see how he gets on with the seniors

hes a ridiculous talent as he is,
With some conditioning work at county level,
when he gets in tip top shape,he will be nigh on unplayable
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on March 26, 2008, 12:11:02 PM
Quote from: GY Joe on March 25, 2008, 11:33:37 AM
I think Skeletor is a good name for him  :D
I see lads trying to put together a Galway team for the championship. Here is my tuppence worth Skeletor

1. Skehill
2. Dervan/Canning(O)
3. Og Regan
4. Moore
5. Kavanagh
6. Lee
7. Collins/Cullinane
8. A Kerins/ Smyth/Lynch
9. K Hynes
10. Farragher/ A Kerins
11. F Healy
12. Tannion
13. D Hayes
14. Canning
15. N Healy/Wade

I'd leave Tannion in ff and play Joe at 15 or 12, keep him away from the Hickeys and O'Sullivans of this world. One thing is certain though, Farragher's days are numbered, offers f all from play although he did have a decent game on Sun... If Ollie makes himself available Galway will be there or thereabouts...
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: mouview on March 26, 2008, 03:19:42 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 26, 2008, 12:11:02 PM


I'd leave Tannion in ff and play Joe at 15 or 12, keep him away from the Hickeys and O'Sullivans of this world. One thing is certain though, Farragher's days are numbered, offers f all from play although he did have a decent game on Sun... If Ollie makes himself available Galway will be there or thereabouts...

Farragher hasn't been doing too badly in fairness to the lad. Tannian is very hot and cold - he, if anyone, is under threat by the wunderkind.
Don't forget also that when Ollie was playing, his standards had dropped off in the last year or so from what he had been in his prime.
Full-back is still cause for concern.... my preference would be John Lee with Kavanagh, perhaps the best of a middlin' lot at CHB.
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on March 26, 2008, 04:11:10 PM
Quote from: mouview on March 26, 2008, 03:19:42 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 26, 2008, 12:11:02 PM


I'd leave Tannion in ff and play Joe at 15 or 12, keep him away from the Hickeys and O'Sullivans of this world. One thing is certain though, Farragher's days are numbered, offers f all from play although he did have a decent game on Sun... If Ollie makes himself available Galway will be there or thereabouts...

Farragher hasn't been doing too badly in fairness to the lad. Tannian is very hot and cold - he, if anyone, is under threat by the wunderkind.
Don't forget also that when Ollie was playing, his standards had dropped off in the last year or so from what he had been in his prime.
Full-back is still cause for concern.... my preference would be John Lee with Kavanagh, perhaps the best of a middlin' lot at CHB.

Farragher hasn't been doing too badly by his own standards, he's still missing chances that he won't even get the time for in the championship. When the going gets tough, Farragher usually goes missing. Tannian might be hot and cold but when he's good he's very, very good. Hopefully with more game time he'll get more consistent, he's got the build for ff anyway. Thought Ollie was one of the better (if not the best) backs for Galway in 05...
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on March 26, 2008, 04:11:56 PM
Quote from: mouview on March 26, 2008, 03:19:42 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 26, 2008, 12:11:02 PM


I'd leave Tannion in ff and play Joe at 15 or 12, keep him away from the Hickeys and O'Sullivans of this world. One thing is certain though, Farragher's days are numbered, offers f all from play although he did have a decent game on Sun... If Ollie makes himself available Galway will be there or thereabouts...

Farragher hasn't been doing too badly in fairness to the lad. Tannian is very hot and cold - he, if anyone, is under threat by the wunderkind.
Don't forget also that when Ollie was playing, his standards had dropped off in the last year or so from what he had been in his prime.
Full-back is still cause for concern.... my preference would be John Lee with Kavanagh, perhaps the best of a middlin' lot at CHB.
I wouldn't be in favour of moving Lee to FB.  He is really maturing into a fine No 6 and it took us long enough to find one.  FB is obviously a problem but it seems that Loughnane is giving Tony Óg every chance to make the spot his own and having Ollie and Fergal Moore either side of him come championship wouldnt be the worst full back line in the world either.  
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 26, 2008, 06:00:32 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 26, 2008, 04:11:10 PM
Quote from: mouview on March 26, 2008, 03:19:42 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 26, 2008, 12:11:02 PM


I'd leave Tannion in ff and play Joe at 15 or 12, keep him away from the Hickeys and O'Sullivans of this world. One thing is certain though, Farragher's days are numbered, offers f all from play although he did have a decent game on Sun... If Ollie makes himself available Galway will be there or thereabouts...

Farragher hasn't been doing too badly in fairness to the lad. Tannian is very hot and cold - he, if anyone, is under threat by the wunderkind.
Don't forget also that when Ollie was playing, his standards had dropped off in the last year or so from what he had been in his prime.
Full-back is still cause for concern.... my preference would be John Lee with Kavanagh, perhaps the best of a middlin' lot at CHB.

Farragher hasn't been doing too badly by his own standards, he's still missing chances that he won't even get the time for in the championship. When the going gets tough, Farragher usually goes missing. Tannian might be hot and cold but when he's good he's very, very good. Hopefully with more game time he'll get more consistent, he's got the build for ff anyway. Thought Ollie was one of the better (if not the best) backs for Galway in 05...

Tannion is very up and down at the moment. I was at the Tipp game and he was absolutely terrible. Looked disinterested and couldn't do anything right. Then against Limerick he was nearly unplayable. Scored 1-3 and roasted Stephen Lucey who is a fine full-back. If he could reproduce more of the latter form himself and Joe Canning would present a formidable central attacking spine.

I would stick with Lee at centre back. He's getting better all the time despite his habit of batting down too many balls. Looks like Tony Og will be the full-back and while I have misgivings about him as a championship level full-back if he had two corner-backs either side of him like Ollie Canning and Fergal Moore it could bring his own game on a lot.
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: mouview on March 27, 2008, 10:55:55 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 26, 2008, 04:11:10 PM

Farragher hasn't been doing too badly by his own standards, he's still missing chances that he won't even get the time for in the championship. When the going gets tough, Farragher usually goes missing. Tannian might be hot and cold but when he's good he's very, very good. Hopefully with more game time he'll get more consistent, he's got the build for ff anyway. Thought Ollie was one of the better (if not the best) backs for Galway in 05...

There was no loss in Farragher in '05, did the biz v. KK and Cork in the final in fairness.
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on March 27, 2008, 12:41:57 PM
Quote from: mouview on March 27, 2008, 10:55:55 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 26, 2008, 04:11:10 PM

Farragher hasn't been doing too badly by his own standards, he's still missing chances that he won't even get the time for in the championship. When the going gets tough, Farragher usually goes missing. Tannian might be hot and cold but when he's good he's very, very good. Hopefully with more game time he'll get more consistent, he's got the build for ff anyway. Thought Ollie was one of the better (if not the best) backs for Galway in 05...

There was no loss in Farragher in '05, did the biz v. KK and Cork in the final in fairness.

I'm talking in open play, offers virtually nothing, imo rely's on his dead ball prowess to get himself on the team...
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on March 27, 2008, 01:43:29 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 27, 2008, 12:41:57 PM
Quote from: mouview on March 27, 2008, 10:55:55 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 26, 2008, 04:11:10 PM

Farragher hasn't been doing too badly by his own standards, he's still missing chances that he won't even get the time for in the championship. When the going gets tough, Farragher usually goes missing. Tannian might be hot and cold but when he's good he's very, very good. Hopefully with more game time he'll get more consistent, he's got the build for ff anyway. Thought Ollie was one of the better (if not the best) backs for Galway in 05...

There was no loss in Farragher in '05, did the biz v. KK and Cork in the final in fairness.

I'm talking in open play, offers virtually nothing, imo rely's on his dead ball prowess to get himself on the team...

In fairness to Farragher I wouldn't say he offers nothing in open play. He does chip in.

http://www.hurlingstats.com/show_player_matches.php?plrid=586 (http://www.hurlingstats.com/show_player_matches.php?plrid=586)
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on March 27, 2008, 02:37:35 PM
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on March 27, 2008, 01:43:29 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 27, 2008, 12:41:57 PM
Quote from: mouview on March 27, 2008, 10:55:55 AM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 26, 2008, 04:11:10 PM

Farragher hasn't been doing too badly by his own standards, he's still missing chances that he won't even get the time for in the championship. When the going gets tough, Farragher usually goes missing. Tannian might be hot and cold but when he's good he's very, very good. Hopefully with more game time he'll get more consistent, he's got the build for ff anyway. Thought Ollie was one of the better (if not the best) backs for Galway in 05...

There was no loss in Farragher in '05, did the biz v. KK and Cork in the final in fairness.

I'm talking in open play, offers virtually nothing, imo rely's on his dead ball prowess to get himself on the team...

In fairness to Farragher I wouldn't say he offers nothing in open play. He does chip in.

http://www.hurlingstats.com/show_player_matches.php?plrid=586 (http://www.hurlingstats.com/show_player_matches.php?plrid=586)

Interesting site, wasn't aware of it. Apart from that classic Kilkenny game and a home game against Antrim he never scored more than 2 points in play, this despite Galway putting up scores like 7-18, 3-21, 2-22, etc. Certainly not good enough from open play for a scoring forward, although if the free taking was taken away from him it might be the incentive he needs to push on and stop hiding. Anyway, we'll agree to differ...
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: orangeman on April 01, 2008, 05:42:39 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on March 25, 2008, 10:54:34 AM
Quote"I'll just be straight honest with you lads," Loughnane told reporters.

That'd be a first for skeletor. I wouldn't believe his radio :D


I think there's plenty of reasons to support your opinion there AZ !!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: thejuice on April 14, 2008, 12:53:09 PM
Canning had some game yesterday, he really is a special talent. Tannion did well too, had a nice scoop and turn on one of Cork the backs leading up to a point. Farragher seemed to play well too. Bodes well for the summer
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: ExiledGael on April 14, 2008, 05:21:00 PM
Things looking good for Ger, Ollie has said today in paper that he'll come back too. Could be an interesting year.
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: dodo on April 15, 2008, 12:00:20 AM
Is it corner back or bust for Ollie at inter county level ?

Would he be a possibility for the half back line ?
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: GY Joe on April 15, 2008, 08:53:24 AM
Canning delight for Tribesmen
Portumna star gives Galway boss the news he's been waiting for


By Colm Keys
Tuesday April 15 2008


Suddenly Ger Loughnane appears to have all his ducks in-a-row.


On Sunday, Joe Canning made a very satisfactory Galway debut and contributed in no small way to their advance to a first league final in four years.

Then yesterday, Ollie Canning confirmed that his return to the Galway squad was imminent after his decision to end a near two-year exile.

The timing of Ollie's announcement couldn't be better at the beginning of a week when Loughnane, who has managed to replace the chaos of last spring and summer with a new united front, prepares to nail down his first silverware as Galway manager.

Coaxing the 31-year-old back is significant as much for harmony as it is for the presence of an experienced operator in Galway's most problematic area.

Impressive

The concession of 24 points to Cork, regardless of the lead they had built up in an impressive first half, reminded Loughnane that for all the attacking flair that Galway possess, the leakage, particularly in the full-back line, remains their foot on the trapdoor to failure.

The return of the older Canning now surely draws a line under the controversy of the 2006 senior hurling final that Portumna lost amidst accusations of heavy-handed tactics deployed against the then 17-year-old Joe.

Ollie's beef wasn't with Loughrea, however. It was the nature and outcome of the investigation by the Board that followed which really irked him.

As a consequence he stayed out of the loop last year, along with Joe, as Galway hobbled from one disappointment to another in league and championship until Kilkenny finally put them to the sword in an All Ireland quarter-final, albeit after a struggle.

Cushioned by their involvement with Portumna in pursuit of a second All Ireland title in three years, the topic of a return wasn't visited much over the winter, but in February Loughnane extended a beckoning hand after the Clare league match in Pearse Stadium when he implored Ollie to reconsider.

"The big problem is, I still think defensively. We need someone like Ollie Canning in there as well. I think he could still do a fantastic job for Galway.

"I wouldn't go near him this time of the year until the club championship is over. I am just saying that he is the type of player -- a cute player," said Loughnane at the time.

So, Ollie has obliged, suggesting that he was uncertain if he had anything to offer last year until Portumna's triumph in March convinced him otherwise.

Agreement

He met with the Galway management last Wednesday and agreed in principle to return once the business of Sunday's league final with Tipperary is out of the way.

"Last season I just wasn't sure if I had anything left to offer at inter-county level. There are a lot of miles on the clock and the forwards all seem to be getting younger. Basically, you question yourself and wonder if you're up to it anymore," he said.

"The long club run with Portumna this year has helped. With our run to the final I've been putting in the work at training throughout winter so there is a base of fitness there.

"I've also been fortunate, touch wood, with injuries over the past year and I've enjoyed an unbroken 12-month spell with nothing serious going wrong.

"At the age I'm at now, this is vital and currently I just feel in good shape and feel that I would be able to do myself justice at inter-county level.

"We had a very positive chat and they assured me that they felt I had something to offer the camp. Whether that's on or off the pitch remains to be seen, but either way I'll be back in training the week after the league final and will be giving it 100pc.

"I have had a bit of a break since the club final and the rest has left me fresh and raring to go and, at this point, I'm just looking forward to getting back into training," he said.

Canning's pledge to return has surprised some local observers who felt that, even allowing for his All Ireland club final performance, inter-county hurling could leave him exposed after such a break away.

- Colm Keys

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Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on April 15, 2008, 10:24:32 AM
Great news to have Ollie back in the panel as he definitely has something to offer IMO.  I think come championship we will see both himself and Fergal Moore man the corner back spots with either Tony Óg or possibly Dervan in the 3 jersey. 
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: mouview on April 15, 2008, 12:16:47 PM
Not a fan of Regan by any means but have often seen him worse than last Sunday. Moore was good all through, Lee pretty much so also. Kavanagh hit a lot of ball in the first half (and is a better bet than Mahon IMHO), as did Cullinane but suffered a bit when O'Connor started running at him after half time. Dervan on the same side of the field leaked a bit then also, surprised he wasn't replaced. Slowly things may slip into place, but another good wing back (Fergal Healy?) would be a big addition. Above all, consistency would be as good as any player now.
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: lynchbhoy on April 16, 2008, 09:56:36 AM
things shaping up nicely for the championship then
this could be the most competitive in a while with Kilkenny under pressure from waterford, cork, tipp, limerick and now Galway.

I'd love to see Waterford or Galway win it, and the longer Galway are there, the more craic we will have with loughnane and his interviews, he'll no doubt round on the media and bring a seige mentality to the Galway team.

Canning did a lot better than I expected last Sunday. Certainly isnt just for frees and sidelines as many predicted.
Lee is a fantastic CHB.
Title: Re: Loughnane confirms Canning’s inclusion
Post by: orangeman on April 17, 2008, 12:53:46 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on April 16, 2008, 09:56:36 AM
things shaping up nicely for the championship then
this could be the most competitive in a while with Kilkenny under pressure from waterford, cork, tipp, limerick and now Galway.

I'd love to see Waterford or Galway win it, and the longer Galway are there, the more craic we will have with loughnane and his interviews, he'll no doubt round on the media and bring a seige mentality to the Galway team.

Canning did a lot better than I expected last Sunday. Certainly isnt just for frees and sidelines as many predicted.
Lee is a fantastic CHB.


But surely he'll need a bit more than this to bring ultimate glory ??