This time under the banner "Children before cars" !
had to park elsewhere this morning. i can partly understand their gripe but i think they always like to have a good moan about something thes'uns. if its fast or dangerous driving they're concerned about, its non-existent. so it must be because cars are parking along the through road which is allowed.
now as fas as where the children come in, i dont know cos during 9 - 5 they should be at school when all the cars are parking there. ok theres 2 months of summer, but they have a big play park and another ball park right beside that. do the children never use it ? and if the parents prefer their children playing games on the road then surely thats their lookout ?
what are they really moaning about cos it certainly ain't about the children ?!
Presumably this is why the parents are happy for the kids to fire stones at the cars.
Maybe its the fact that the are pissed of with cars of cheapskate's clogging their streets all day.
Also bin lorries and even hearses have had problems in the past. If somebody parked their car outside my house I would soon tell them to F**k Off. Residents in the village have similar problems. Hopefully parking permits will be brought in. Do what I do buy a space in a car par
so because people are not fond of paying 1000 a year in carparking they're cheapskates !?
if its parking up on footpaths and that, yeah that occurs but its about 10% of the total cars, maybe 2 dozen cars, now that could cause a problem , i agree...but cars parking properly and legally alongside a through road is no problem for anyone ?!
also i've yet to see a car being parked directly in front of any of the residents houses without them getting some 'recompense'..ie there are residents taking a wee cut for letting people park in their drives...nothing wrong with that
"Children before cars"? I would say half of them dont know where their children are from one hour to the next........
My concern would be the mob who have closed the roads off! Standing about looking menacing with their bull terrier dogs!
Whilst the police seem to be backing them up!
It is illegal to close off a public road!
I think they should be channelling their 'enthusiasm' by lobbying their local council to either increase parking restrictions in the area & / or improve facilities for their kids!
Schools finish around 3pm with infant schools at lunchtime. Presumably you park there between 9 and 5pm. While cars are parked along the streets they are obscuring other drivers view of the footpath hence they will not see a child who runs out between two parked cars.
Quote from: Abble on March 11, 2008, 08:27:11 AM
This time under the banner "Children before cars" !
had to park elsewhere this morning. i can partly understand their gripe but i think they always like to have a good moan about something thes'uns. if its fast or dangerous driving they're concerned about, its non-existent. so it must be because cars are parking along the through road which is allowed.
now as fas as where the children come in, i dont know cos during 9 - 5 they should be at school when all the cars are parking there. ok theres 2 months of summer, but they have a big play park and another ball park right beside that. do the children never use it ? and if the parents prefer their children playing games on the road then surely thats their lookout ?
what are they really moaning about cos it certainly ain't about the children ?!
I agree with what you said apart from the parking times - if you arrive by 8am you'll not get a space, so by the time the kids are heading to school there's no spaces left anyway!!!
The only dangers in the area are for the people parking there - the fear of having a stone thrown at the car, a wing mirror kicked off or a tyre slashed.
I can't understand the problem of people parking along the building site (to be) and train station side of the road - how could it possibly be harming anyone at all - no footpaths there or anything! I seen the pit bull type dog there this morning too and the barrier being moved over for the police to drive in past - unreal!!
In saying that, parked up beside UTV/Citybeat there this morning and the walk back in will have done me the world of good! (Every cloud...)
In fairness its admirable of them taking time off work to man the barriers in something they feel very strongly about...... ;)
Quote from: Minder on March 11, 2008, 09:47:40 AM
In fairness its admirable of them taking time off work to man the barriers in something they feel very strongly about...... ;)
Exactly what I sadi to a lad in work!! :D
The council can solve the problem very easily by introducing parking permits for all householders in the city – after all we are the ones that pay the rates for little more that a bin collection. It's very annoying to arrive at you own door to find you have to park in the next street because a load of cheapskate blow-ins have parked their cars outside your door or even along the whole street. I've been very tempted on a few occasions to take a little direct action of my own.
Great way to back up an arguement, defame the character of the protesters! ::)
They're away from the road now. I'm off to get the car here and bring it down to get away quicker this afternoon.
Maybe that's them away off to work now then? must have taken a half day off this morning :-\
Quote from: Donagh on March 11, 2008, 10:11:16 AM
The council can solve the problem very easily by introducing parking permits for all householders in the city – after all we are the ones that pay the rates for little more that a bin collection. It's very annoying to arrive at you own door to find you have to park in the next street because a load of cheapskate blow-ins have parked their cars outside your door or even along the whole street. I've been very tempted on a few occasions to take a little direct action of my own.
I don't think anyone is questioning that it's wrong to park outside someone's house, just as it's wrong to park on yellow lines!
The fact is most of the cars are parked legally, especially for the last year, as any illegally parked cars in Stewart's St get a ticket! Simple as!
The permits won't work, as where the commuters are parking where there are no houses!
I wouldn't mind someone parking outside my house if it meant they were going to do a days work in order to pay my benefits so I don't have to work.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7289789.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7289789.stm)
"For local residents, there have been on-going concerns around health and safety within the community as a result of this issue.
That brought a smile to my face.
Quote From Pint....I wouldn't mind someone parking outside my house if it meant they were going to do a days work in order to pay my benefits so I don't have to work
That is a disgusting remark Pints, the type of comment normally only heard from the further reaches of the D.U.P. You should withdraw it immediately
QuoteThat is a disgusting remark Pints, the type of comment normally only heard from the further reaches of the D.U.P. You should withdraw it immediately
What's the problem PB or what have I said that's untrue?
Quote from: Pangurban on March 11, 2008, 06:44:25 PM
Quote From Pint....I wouldn't mind someone parking outside my house if it meant they were going to do a days work in order to pay my benefits so I don't have to work
That is a disgusting remark Pints, the type of comment normally only heard from the further reaches of the D.U.P. You should withdraw it immediately
Disgusting how? :-\
Right, I understand where my kith and kin are comming from on this protest. The culchies are invading the Markets and by parking there are causing a disturbance, at a funeral the hearse had to park in the next street as cars were parked right outside the house, the cars totally ignored a cross on the door and some tr**p even moved the chairs that were placed outside the house to reserve a space. were the wing mirrors broken, no were the tyres slashed, no.
It does happen, but just because people protest for something they believe in should they be ridiculed?
Holiness if you are so insensitive that you need to ask, then there is no really no point in explaining, as any explanation would be wasted on you
They need to introduce a parking permit system for those areas. Residential parking only.
Quote from: Square Ball on March 11, 2008, 07:15:44 PM
Right, I understand where my kith and kin are comming from on this protest. The culchies are invading the Markets and by parking there are causing a disturbance, at a funeral the hearse had to park in the next street as cars were parked right outside the house, the cars totally ignored a cross on the door and some tr**p even moved the chairs that were placed outside the house to reserve a space. were the wing mirrors broken, no were the tyres slashed, no.
It does happen, but just because people protest for something they believe in should they be ridiculed?
That's terrible but you're talking about the actions of one or two knob heads.
Not often I agree with Donagh but he's right on this one. Resident only parking permits and commuters can either park in a car park or take a bus. Why should anybody have the right to park outside somebody elses house?
Quote from: his holiness nb on March 11, 2008, 06:58:10 PM
Quote from: Pangurban on March 11, 2008, 06:44:25 PM
Quote From Pint....I wouldn't mind someone parking outside my house if it meant they were going to do a days work in order to pay my benefits so I don't have to work
That is a disgusting remark Pints, the type of comment normally only heard from the further reaches of the D.U.P. You should withdraw it immediately
Disgusting how? :-\
Think the fact that he is labelling all the residents as benefit spongers, without any proof is the reason.
Quote from: Square Ball on March 11, 2008, 07:15:44 PM
Right, I understand where my kith and kin are comming from on this protest. The culchies are invading the Markets and by parking there are causing a disturbance, at a funeral the hearse had to park in the next street as cars were parked right outside the house, the cars totally ignored a cross on the door and some tr**p even moved the chairs that were placed outside the house to reserve a space. were the wing mirrors broken, no were the tyres slashed, no.
It does happen, but just because people protest for something they believe in should they be ridiculed?
Nobody should be parking outside anyone's house and especially when a funeral is going on - there is no defence of it and I don't doubt that it happened because I've seen where some people park in the area. The ones that annoy me the most are the ones who park right up at the junction with the Albert Bridge road on the footpath!!! However, the issue here was nothing to do with funerals or anything else - it was to do with the safety of children in the Markets area as far as I'm aware.
I park in the markets area when I need to be in work early (twice a week usually) and for anyone who knows the area I park along the wall between the markets and the train station. I arrive there at 7.30am each morning and am gone at 3pm. There is no footpaths or anything along here so I'm not sure how this is putting childrens' safety at risk. I have never broke any laws doing this as it is perfectly legal to park there.
However, as far as I'm aware it is illegal to block roads (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) and that is what happened this morning. I easily found alternative free parking not much further away but I'm sure a lot of people arrived late to work as a result of this. Rather than going out and blocking the roads without warning why not put leaflets on the cars on Monday saying there will be a protest on Tuesday and the parking spaces will not be available? This would allow people to make alternative parking arrangements whilst still making their point.
Surely if the risk is that great the place to go should be their local MP? I've been working in the area for almost 4 years now and have been occasionally parking there for all that time and I've never heard of anything happening to any children (I know prevention is better than cure but I fail to see the risk!).
Looking to the future, what happens when the ununsed car park is developed into the hotel/apartments/office space that is planned? (http://www.futurebelfast.co.uk/LanyonPlace.htm) Will the construction workers be allowed into the area or will they be blocked from entering due to the increased risk to the children?
And re the breaking of wing morrors and slashing of tyres, a few in work have had both happen and I once had one of my tyres slashed. It may not have happened at the funeral that day but it does happen. I've also seen car windows broken from time to time. The protest today is definitely a step in the right direction from these instances but was done in the wrong way I think.
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on March 11, 2008, 07:33:53 PM
Quote from: his holiness nb on March 11, 2008, 06:58:10 PM
Quote from: Pangurban on March 11, 2008, 06:44:25 PM
Quote From Pint....I wouldn't mind someone parking outside my house if it meant they were going to do a days work in order to pay my benefits so I don't have to work
That is a disgusting remark Pints, the type of comment normally only heard from the further reaches of the D.U.P. You should withdraw it immediately
Disgusting how? :-\
Think the fact that he is labelling all the residents as benefit spongers, without any proof is the reason.
Sorry I didnt mean to suggest that the residents were spongers, just the ones that can stand out on a road and illegally block it at that time in the morning.
For anyone who's parked in the markets today, we just got this message in work...
Dear all
We have been made aware that there may be a protest at Stewart Street later today. Please be vigilant if your car is parked in this area.
Regards
Free Parking in the building site all week...
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on April 03, 2008, 09:19:55 AM
Free Parking in the building site all week...
£3 a day as of today - the street's full again today
Another days annual leave used today then, they may be careful they dont use it all up or they will have none for their summer holidays......
"Get off our streets say residents"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7374876.stm
Hand the streets over to the residents and let them pay for the upkeep ;)
I had a dander through ealier...
There are loads of cars parked in the middle of the Markets area, up on the footpaths!
ALL THEIR OWN!!!
How are they getting away with this action?
Any street in london for instance near a tube or train station and the residents have to pay to park and issue visiting permits to callers also can be purchased locally - all part if inner city life...