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Title: Tornado devastation yet again in the USA
Post by: Aerlik on February 07, 2008, 10:24:20 AM
Yet another disastrous event in the USA.  What I can't understand is why houses in tornado-prone parts of the country are not mandatorily constructed with steel frames on concrete bases as is the case here in the north west of Australia where more cyclones touch land than anywhere else in the world.  Any insight into this from our north American contributors?
Title: Re: Tornado devastation yet again in the USA
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 07, 2008, 02:02:19 PM
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Title: Re: Tornado devastation yet again in the USA
Post by: dec on February 07, 2008, 02:15:17 PM
Quote from: Aerlik on February 07, 2008, 10:24:20 AM
What I can't understand is why houses in tornado-prone parts of the country are not mandatorily constructed with steel frames on concrete bases as is the case here in the north west of Australia where more cyclones touch land than anywhere else in the world.
The states in tornado-prone parts of the country tend to favour less regulation and  elect Republicans or conservative Democrats.
Title: Re: Tornado devastation yet again in the USA
Post by: Hardy on February 07, 2008, 02:18:17 PM
Is it simply that it's the right approach statistically? (Not stating - asking). While tornadoes are numerous and frequent, they are also short-lived and very localised (in the USA, anyway, I think). Therefore the odds against any individual house being hit by a tornado in the lifetime of its occupants may be a better bet than forking out the extra dosh to make it tornado-proof.
Title: Re: Tornado devastation yet again in the USA
Post by: Drumanee 1 on February 07, 2008, 02:46:07 PM
saw that on the news last night and then bush come out with the usual crap about doing what ever it takes to help the people of this regeion,well if history is anything to go by i would not be holding my breath when you look whats happened (or not) in new orleans
Title: Re: Tornado devastation yet again in the USA
Post by: heganboy on February 07, 2008, 03:11:47 PM
timber frame houses in the US are the norm. There are regulations in the cities but as soon as you go outside of the larger metropolitan areas the building legislation is all about the height of permissible fences, suitable types of plant that fit in with the "character of the town" than about the safety of the occupants. Flood prone areas, still allow basements with bedrooms, as for houses in the hurricane belt, the easier to blow them away the more likely the builder gets to rebuild.
In my experience the quality of building for housing here is brutal, the wiring is whatever is cheapest, they seem to have no concept of insulation, the plumbing at least seems decent...
Title: Re: Tornado devastation yet again in the USA
Post by: FL/MAYO on February 07, 2008, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: Drumanee 1 on February 07, 2008, 02:46:07 PM
saw that on the news last night and then bush come out with the usual crap about doing what ever it takes to help the people of this regeion,well if history is anything to go by i would not be holding my breath when you look whats happened (or not) in new orleans

Different demographic this time something will probably be done.
Title: Re: Tornado devastation yet again in the USA
Post by: Drumanee 1 on February 07, 2008, 04:21:27 PM
Quote from: FL/MAYO on February 07, 2008, 04:11:53 PM
Quote from: Drumanee 1 on February 07, 2008, 02:46:07 PM
saw that on the news last night and then bush come out with the usual crap about doing what ever it takes to help the people of this regeion,well if history is anything to go by i would not be holding my breath when you look whats happened (or not) in new orleans

Different demographic this time something will probably be done.

what?were there more white folks this time
Title: Re: Tornado devastation yet again in the USA
Post by: heganboy on February 07, 2008, 04:23:06 PM
yes- thats about the height of it- richer white folks at that
Title: Re: Tornado devastation yet again in the USA
Post by: mannix on February 07, 2008, 05:40:34 PM
Alot of folk in these here parts live in trailers, tornadoes love trailers.
I imagine even if they were made from brick they would be destroyed, people without the money will just have to take their chances in wooden framed homes, the wealthy can have steel framed but the windows would likely be sucked out and everything inside too unless its a superstrong build with steel shutters and a mighty roof welded on.
I think i preferred the overcrowding of new york to the danger of losing everything in 2 minutes.
Title: Re: Tornado devastation yet again in the USA
Post by: DrinkingHarp on February 07, 2008, 07:37:57 PM
A lady in Tennesse who lived in a trailer went to her Church (brick building) the church collasped and killed her the trailer went untouched.


Most of the areas where the tornados hit are low income areas. Average family income about 28,000 per year. To build a tornado proof home would cost about 800,000+ compared to a stick frame home of 45,000 or a trailer of 20,000 or less.

Around my area the tornados are active every spring, the new codes require hurricane strapping on trusses and walls. They are also anchoring the rim boards to the concrete foundation with steel anchors but if a F3 or F5 tornado hits your home there is not much you can do.



Title: Re: Tornado devastation yet again in the USA
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 01, 2011, 11:50:16 PM
Can't believe there has been no chat on here about these.

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRgXtW__TFxNjONlMZtmkwoy9Ras6yPZXOpt-axLFzC95r8i1IeKg)
Title: Re: Tornado devastation yet again in the USA
Post by: laoislad on May 01, 2011, 11:51:05 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 01, 2011, 11:50:16 PM
Can't believe there has been no chat on here about these.

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRgXtW__TFxNjONlMZtmkwoy9Ras6yPZXOpt-axLFzC95r8i1IeKg)

Ian Poulter had that picture on his Twitter page..great pic
Title: Re: Tornado devastation yet again in the USA
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 02, 2011, 12:05:43 AM
Quote from: laoislad on May 01, 2011, 11:51:05 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 01, 2011, 11:50:16 PM
Can't believe there has been no chat on here about these.

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRgXtW__TFxNjONlMZtmkwoy9Ras6yPZXOpt-axLFzC95r8i1IeKg)

Ian Poulter had that picture on his Twitter page..great pic
Funny you should say that...
Title: Re: Tornado devastation yet again in the USA
Post by: Norf Tyrone on May 02, 2011, 09:18:48 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 02, 2011, 12:05:43 AM
Quote from: laoislad on May 01, 2011, 11:51:05 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 01, 2011, 11:50:16 PM
Can't believe there has been no chat on here about these.

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRgXtW__TFxNjONlMZtmkwoy9Ras6yPZXOpt-axLFzC95r8i1IeKg)

Ian Poulter had that picture on his Twitter page..great pic
Funny you should say that...


Are you Ian Poulter???  :o
Title: Re: Tornado devastation yet again in the USA
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 02, 2011, 01:33:38 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on May 02, 2011, 09:18:48 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 02, 2011, 12:05:43 AM
Quote from: laoislad on May 01, 2011, 11:51:05 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 01, 2011, 11:50:16 PM
Can't believe there has been no chat on here about these.

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRgXtW__TFxNjONlMZtmkwoy9Ras6yPZXOpt-axLFzC95r8i1IeKg)

Ian Poulter had that picture on his Twitter page..great pic
Funny you should say that...


Are you Ian Poulter???  :o
That's Ian James Poulter to you Norf!