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Title: International Rules may survive after all
Post by: magickingdom on December 09, 2006, 04:55:08 PM
the gaa said today that while there will be no tour at junior or senior level to austrialia in 2007 a consultation process will begin outlining what is needed if the series is to continue and when this process is finished the final document will be presented to the afl for their view......
Title: Re: International Rules may survive after all
Post by: ziggysego on December 09, 2006, 08:16:06 PM
At least we got some breathing space before 2008. Prehaps then, we would have a proper set of rules set in place then, so we won't have a repeat performance of 2005 and 2006.

One can only hope.

As for the Undergame Games, as good as it is for the young 'uns, I feel it should be scrapped altogether.
Title: Re: International Rules may survive after all
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 09, 2006, 08:21:38 PM
Can we not take the Aussies on at rounders - It's a non-contact sport (mind you they're not bad at cricket either)
Title: Re: International Rules may survive after all
Post by: ziggysego on December 09, 2006, 08:23:00 PM
Quote from: never kickt a ball on December 09, 2006, 08:21:38 PM
(mind you they're not bad at cricket either)

That's the things about the Aussies, they are good at all sports!! Well maybe not soccer, although they were unfairly defeated in the World Cup this year.
Title: Re: International Rules may survive after all
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 09, 2006, 08:28:50 PM
409 Ziggy. Keep going you will overtake him 2nite. Ziggy for 500! Ziggy for 500!
Title: Re: International Rules may survive after all
Post by: ziggysego on December 09, 2006, 08:31:34 PM
I'm going out on a date now, so no time to over take Dubnut. However, that is my mission tomorrow. I shall rule this board! :D
Title: Re: International Rules may survive after all
Post by: ONeill on December 09, 2006, 08:41:32 PM
Bet the Aussies are shite at turf-clodding or dog-throwing.

Good decision today.
Title: Re: International Rules may survive after all
Post by: Lecale2 on December 10, 2006, 09:59:52 AM
RTE

No International Rules in 2007
Saturday, 09 December 2006 5:44 

There will be no International Rules Series in 2007, at junior or senior level, while the GAA prepare a document which will put on record the basis of structure of rules and penalties that the future of the game will be based on.

GAA president Nickey Brennan said that over half the players that had been consulted with were in favour of the hybrid game continuing. Delegates from around the country also spoke for and against the future of the game.

Speaking at a meeting of Central Council on Saturday, Brennan stated that any future for the International Rules game will be dependent on a structure being formulated that will ensure acceptable standards of sportsmanship.


This document, when formulated, will be brought back to Central Council for decision and then forwarded to the AFL for their consideration. Following this it hoped that the AFL and GAA can hold talks on the  future of the Series.

Dessie Farrell, GPA chief executive and player's representative on central Council, stated that while there would be some disappointment amongst players that the 2007 Series will not take place, the decision was, in his view, probably a wise one.
Title: Re: International Rules may survive after all
Post by: dodo on December 10, 2006, 07:19:20 PM
This opens up a clear time for the Interprovincial games next year. A good opportunity to give M. Donnelly some pay back for sponsoring the competition over the last few years by doing a serious promotion of it. Ensure that as many top players as possible play and are well taken care of for doing so.
Title: Re: International Rules may survive after all
Post by: DUBSFORSAM1 on December 10, 2006, 09:25:05 PM
Well it will probably be open season for the AFL to poach young players now that the series has been cancelled...especially as the rule about not being able to poach players can't be enforced...
Title: Re: International Rules may survive after all
Post by: stephenite on December 10, 2006, 09:32:01 PM
Quote from: DUBSFORSAM1 on December 10, 2006, 09:25:05 PM
Well it will probably be open season for the AFL to poach young players now that the series has been cancelled...especially as the rule about not being able to poach players can't be enforced...

Exactly, you can be sure that all AFL clubs will be making concerted efforts to attract young Irish talent over, the minor games will be teeming with Aussie scouts. With the success of Kennelly and Begley in recent years these teams can see huge benefits, it's not hard to tempt most lads to go and now there will be no restrictions on the AFL clubs from poaching our best young players, open season.
Title: Re: International Rules may survive after all
Post by: muppet on December 11, 2006, 01:03:46 AM
 More young Gaa prospects will die in alcohol related road deaths this year than have been poached in the last decade.
Title: Re: International Rules may survive after all
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 11, 2006, 01:07:45 AM
serious stuff Muppet. Do you have the figures?
Title: Re: International Rules may survive after all
Post by: charlie linkbox on December 11, 2006, 01:12:31 AM
"WILL die". You can't have figures for something that hasn't happened yet.

Safe to assume though that more than two or three young footballers die on the roads per annum, thus making muppets statement true.
Title: Re: International Rules may survive after all
Post by: muppet on December 11, 2006, 01:36:49 AM
 It can't be absolutely true as it is an opinion and difficult to prove either way. It is merely my interpretation of the stats.

However the reality is that many young Gaa players are killed every year on the roads with alcohol as some sort of influence. We would be better off trying to protect them from that fate rather than shielding them from a professional career in sport where they really would be looked after.

Title: Re: International Rules may survive after all
Post by: stephenite on December 11, 2006, 01:50:58 AM
Fair point - however it can also be argued that more young footballers are driven away from the game for a variety of reasons, public infrastructure or lack of for instance can be argued as to why some young players are no longer playing (ie) they can't be arsed sitting on a train for 8 hours every weekend.

My point would be that the very, very best are now more susceptible to poaching by AFL clubs simply because any restraints that were in place to stop this are now void ( i assume ) in light of this decision.
I personally would not blame any young player for taking up the offer of life as a professional player, but we could see the numbers increase.
Title: Re: International Rules may survive after all
Post by: dubnut on December 11, 2006, 10:04:09 AM
Quote from: ziggysego on December 09, 2006, 08:31:34 PM
I'm going out on a date now, so no time to over take Dubnut. However, that is my mission tomorrow. I shall rule this board! :D

Jaysus its a close run thing, I think we have too much time on our hands Ziggy!
Title: Re: International Rules may survive after all
Post by: magpie seanie on December 11, 2006, 12:40:41 PM
A common sense approach which seems to be the hallmark of the Brennan presidency. Personally I think there is not future for the games and we should have a massive Railway Cup weekend in Croker in early October instead as was alluded to by an earlier poster.

On the other side of the argument - if the series is to be saved then the break for a year is necessary to weigh things up. I'm surprised that the players seem so keen to continue with the series (I would have thought that the trip to Australia every two years wasn't really a huge perk - most would get on team holidays to nicer spots) but it needs looking at for that reason. Farrell is not changing his position - he's acting in a sensible and measured manner for a change. It's to be welcomed. The sabre rattling gets you nowhere.

Just on Muppets comment - (proabably for another thread in "the other place" but...) I'd like to say that even more will be killed due to bad driving related accidents than "alcohol" related accidents. If people think the current blitz on drink driving will solve the problem - well they're in for a shock.
Title: Re: International Rules may survive after all
Post by: ziggysego on December 11, 2006, 12:41:39 PM
Quote from: dubnut on December 11, 2006, 10:04:09 AM
Jaysus its a close run thing, I think we have too much time on our hands Ziggy!

I was still at it over the weekend, where rightly you took a break. What's that say about me?
Title: Re: International Rules may survive after all
Post by: dubnut on December 11, 2006, 12:52:36 PM
I think we both have issues Ziggy  :'(