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Title: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: ziggysego on October 22, 2007, 04:53:56 PM
QuoteNorthern Ireland's drink-drive limit could be set at a lower level than the rest of the UK, Environment Minister Arlene Foster has said.

Ms Foster told the assembly her department was "actively" looking into reducing the legal limit.

"I, personally, am in favour of lowering the limit," she said.

Last year almost 1,500 motorists were caught drink-driving on Northern Ireland's roads. Almost 1,000 people have been apprehended so far this year.

The current legal limit in the UK is set at 80mg of alcohol per 100ml of blood.

Exceeding the limit is punishable by a mandatory minimum one year driving disqualification, plus a fine of up to £5,000.

It also carries a possible maximum prison sentence of six months.

Sourced BBCi: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7056823.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7056823.stm)

Great news, I'd be in favour of that.
Title: Re: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on October 22, 2007, 04:54:43 PM
It should be 0mg of alcohol per 100ml
Title: Re: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: Gnevin on October 22, 2007, 04:56:23 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on October 22, 2007, 04:54:43 PM
It should be 0mg of alcohol per 100ml
Isn't their problems with that? Brandy ice creams and stuff with low alcohol level can give errors?
Title: Re: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: Orior on October 22, 2007, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on October 22, 2007, 04:56:23 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on October 22, 2007, 04:54:43 PM
It should be 0mg of alcohol per 100ml
Isn't their problems with that? Brandy ice creams and stuff with low alcohol level can give errors?

Maybe, but I'd still second that proposal. However the biggest single thing that would reduce road deaths is to make the maximum speed limit 55mph on all minor roads, main roads, dual carriageways and motorways.
Title: Re: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: thewobbler on October 22, 2007, 05:54:35 PM
QuoteMaybe, but I'd still second that proposal. However the biggest single thing that would reduce road deaths is to make the maximum speed limit 55mph on all minor roads, main roads, dual carriageways and motorways.

Sure while we're at it, why don't we ban motorised vehicles and make everyone ride horses instead. There would be no car accidents then.
Title: Re: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: Orior on October 22, 2007, 06:52:12 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on October 22, 2007, 05:54:35 PM
QuoteMaybe, but I'd still second that proposal. However the biggest single thing that would reduce road deaths is to make the maximum speed limit 55mph on all minor roads, main roads, dual carriageways and motorways.

Sure while we're at it, why don't we ban motorised vehicles and make everyone ride horses instead. There would be no car accidents then.

Typical Newry man. Never sees the Point which is only a few mile down the road. People would still fall off horses.

Why do you need speed? How does getting home 10 minutes earlier compare to not getting home at all?
Title: Re: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: marty88 on October 22, 2007, 08:56:01 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 22, 2007, 06:52:12 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on October 22, 2007, 05:54:35 PM
QuoteMaybe, but I'd still second that proposal. However the biggest single thing that would reduce road deaths is to make the maximum speed limit 55mph on all minor roads, main roads, dual carriageways and motorways.

Sure while we're at it, why don't we ban motorised vehicles and make everyone ride horses instead. There would be no car accidents then.

Typical Newry man. Never sees the Point which is only a few mile down the road. People would still fall off horses.

Why do you need speed? How does getting home 10 minutes earlier compare to not getting home at all?

how come speed doesn't kill so many people in Europe or in the states?

The level shouldn't be cut any more. Ive love to know how many of the deaths are caused by people having less that 80 mg per 100 in their system.

Title: Re: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: Orior on October 22, 2007, 09:16:42 PM
And while we're at how many deaths had the driver saying:

If only I'd been driving a bit slower I would have seen that motorbike pull out and been able to stop
If only I'd been driving a bit slower I would have seen that idiot earlier and been able to stop
If only I'd been driving a bit slower I would have seen that dog earlier and not swerved and been able to stop
If only I'd been driving a bit slower I would have seen that child run out earlier and been able to stop

You (like me) may be the best driver in the world, but when you meet the stupid person on the road its metal that will be crunching.
Title: Re: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: marty88 on October 22, 2007, 09:26:13 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 22, 2007, 09:16:42 PM
And while we're at how many deaths had the driver saying:

If only I'd been driving a bit slower I would have seen that motorbike pull out and been able to stop
If only I'd been driving a bit slower I would have seen that idiot earlier and been able to stop
If only I'd been driving a bit slower I would have seen that dog earlier and not swerved and been able to stop
If only I'd been driving a bit slower I would have seen that child run out earlier and been able to stop

You (like me) may be the best driver in the world, but when you meet the stupid person on the road its metal that will be crunching.

then its education that people need, not less speed.

And while were on the subject of drink driving, 4 out of 10 of all accidents on Irish roads have been cause by people under the influence.
That means 6 out of 10 were caused by sober people, sort these scumbags out first! ;)
Title: Re: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: Gnevin on October 22, 2007, 09:40:29 PM
Can we keep this thread to drink, their is already a 10 page one on Speed
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=5065.0
Title: Re: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: ziggysego on October 22, 2007, 09:41:38 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on October 22, 2007, 09:40:29 PM
Can we keep this thread to drink, their is already a 10 page one on Speed
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=5065.0

I looked for it, but couldn't find it. I assumed that the mod deleted it, as things got a little personal in there.

Mod, if you want to merge them, please do.
Title: Re: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: Orior on October 22, 2007, 09:52:27 PM
Who the hell is driving this thread?
Title: Re: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on October 22, 2007, 10:14:26 PM
A lad I know had a stupid woman run into the back of him on the road into Belfast. The cops came and breathalysed them both. It was like 8.30am in the Tuesday morning. He failed the preliminary test and was hauled off to the barracks. He had the second test and passed easy. The Sargent asked him if he had used mouth wash earlier and it turned out that that was the cause of the positive reading.
Title: Re: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: ONeill on October 22, 2007, 10:18:53 PM
Quote from: SouthArmaghBandit on October 22, 2007, 10:14:26 PM
A lad I know had a stupid woman run into the back of him on the road into Belfast. The cops came and breathalysed them both. It was like 8.30am in the Tuesday morning. He failed the preliminary test and was hauled off to the barracks. He had the second test and passed easy. The Sargent asked him if he had used mouth wash earlier and it turned out that that was the cause of the positive reading.

Moral of the story: Stupid women and mouthwash are not compatible.
Title: Re: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: Over the Bar on October 23, 2007, 09:43:35 AM
QuoteA lad I know had a stupid woman run into the back of him on the road into Belfast. The cops came and breathalysed them both. It was like 8.30am in the Tuesday morning. He failed the preliminary test and was hauled off to the barracks. He had the second test and passed easy. The Sargent asked him if he had used mouth wash earlier and it turned out that that was the cause of the positive reading.

Moral of the story is, don't use mouthwash if you've had a skinful the night before!  :o
Title: Re: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: whiskeysteve on October 23, 2007, 10:41:22 AM
Quote from: Orior on October 22, 2007, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: Gnevin on October 22, 2007, 04:56:23 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on October 22, 2007, 04:54:43 PM
It should be 0mg of alcohol per 100ml
Isn't their problems with that? Brandy ice creams and stuff with low alcohol level can give errors?

Maybe, but I'd still second that proposal. However the biggest single thing that would reduce road deaths is to make the maximum speed limit 55mph on all minor roads, main roads, dual carriageways and motorways.

Driving down the motorway at 55mph?? how did ye come to that figure? 70's grand
Title: Re: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: armaghniac on October 23, 2007, 11:46:21 AM
QuoteHowever the biggest single thing that would reduce road deaths is to make the maximum speed limit 55mph on all minor roads, main roads, dual carriageways and motorways.

This is a rather broad brush statement, safety is dependent on the context, given that minor roads are quite differently engineered from motorways a different limit is appropriate, 55mph is too high for minor roads, too low for motorways.

I notice too that it will be announced on Thursday that the limit will be reduced in the 26 counties, along with plans to get the "L" driver louts off the road.
Title: Re: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: Orior on October 23, 2007, 12:04:16 PM
I thought the limit was 55mph in the USA. 

I've no stats to back this up, but I think accidents involving lorries has reduced since they had their speed capped?
Title: Re: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 23, 2007, 12:11:51 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 23, 2007, 12:04:16 PM
I thought the limit was 55mph in the USA. 

I've no stats to back this up, but I think accidents involving lorries has reduced since they had their speed capped?
Speed limits USA
25–30 mph (40–48 km/h) on residential streets
35–45 mph (56–72 km/h) on urban arterial roads
50–65 mph (80–105 km/h) on major highways inside cities
45–70 mph (72–105 km/h) on rural two-lane roads
55–70 mph (88–112 km/h) on rural expressways
65–80 mph (105–129 km/h) on rural interstate highways

Quote from: Orior on October 22, 2007, 05:33:53 PM

Maybe, but I'd still second that proposal. However the biggest single thing that would reduce road deaths is to make the maximum speed limit 55mph on all minor roads, main roads, dual carriageways and motorways.

I can see where you're comin from for the minor road, but why Dual carriage ways and Motorways? Holy jesus, They're frustrating enough at best of times when you're stuck behind some sunday drver who wont pull in from the overtaking lane
Title: Re: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: whiskeysteve on October 23, 2007, 12:20:32 PM
ram them
Title: Re: NI drink drive limit 'may be cut'
Post by: ziggysego on October 23, 2007, 04:49:13 PM
EUROPEAN DRINK DRIVE LIMITS (Grams of alcohol per litre of blood)

0.8g = UK, Ireland, Luxembourg, Malta
0.5g = Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany Greece, Italy, Latvia, Netherlands, Portugal, Slovenia, Spain
0.4g = Lithuania
0.2g = Norway, Poland, Sweden
Zero tolerance = Estonia, Romania, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Hungary

Source: European Road Safety Observatory