Between 1955 and 1981 Mayo won only 2 connacht senior provincial titles, they went the whole of the 70's without a title.
Despite Cavan holding 39 Ulster senior titles they have only won one title since 1969.
Despite 30 AI titles, Kilkenny will be going next year for only their second three in a row AI's ther last one was in 1911/12/13.
Anybody else have useless trivia (pub talk) to share?
Quote from: drici on September 11, 2007, 12:20:32 PM
Cork Minor Hurlers path to the 1990 All Ireland Final.
May 16th,Kanturk: Cork 8-22 Kerry 1-02
July 4th,Walsh Park: Cork 6-14 Waterford 4-11
July 15th,Thurles: Cork 1-09 Clare 0-09
August 15th,Croke Park: Cork 1-14 Derry 1-09
Did that same Derry minor team run Kilkenny close in the U21's a year or two later, the match being played up in Ballinascreen in a magmanimous gesture by Kilkenny (DJ played I think)?
YAWN YAWN YAWN
Quote from: 5iveTimes on September 11, 2007, 12:17:39 PM
Have you just bought "The GAA Book of Lists" ?
Nah, just knew those facts, but i can see where you are coming from :)
Between 1915 and 1955 Cavan never went more than 2 years without winning an Ulster Senior title, achieving Five 3 in a rows, Three 4 in a rows, Three 5 in a rows, and Two 7 in a rows along the way. No small feat!
Tony Scullion was a late developer and never played minor football for Derry. He was asked into the U-21 team in his last year. The side went on to win the U-21 1983 Ulster Championship and went on to be runners up to Mayo in the All-Ireland Under-21 Football Championship after a replay.
Scullion was also a keen hurler for both Ballinascreen and Derry. He played in five Derry Senior Hurling Championship finals and was man of the match in the 1989 final, despite never winning a final. He played for the Derry hurling team between 1983 and 1991.
He was part of the Derry side which were runners up to Down in the 1988 All-Ireland B final.
In 1996 I saw some match somewhere that had some boy playing that played for the same team the following week in another match against a different team.
Now thats interesting isnt it.
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 11, 2007, 12:36:35 PM
Between 1915 and 1955 Cavan never went more than 2 years without winning an Ulster Senior title, achieving Five 3 in a rows, Three 4 in a rows, Three 5 in a rows, and Two 7 in a rows along the way. No small feat!
Sure nonbody else bar a few counties played football then ;)
Quote from: 5iveTimes on September 11, 2007, 12:50:40 PM
When frost caused a 6 inch surface of ice over the river Liffey in January 1740 the citizens of Dublin played a football match on the frozen river.
I knew they liked the
snow alright ;)
QuoteUlster Football Championship Quarter Final Result 1904:
(played at Enniskillen on Friday 6th January 1905)
Fermanagh 0-01 Monaghan 0-04
A low scoring affair but didnt an All Ireland final finish 05-03 in the 1930s?
In 1922, the 'Civil War' Connaught hurling final between Galway and Roscommon ended in acrimony after Pa Weedy of the tribemen blew his goalie up with a crudely made device shaped like a 'Good Luck Today' card... although the match resumed after the netminder was swept from the pitch, it left a sour taste
Gaelic Football only started in 2002
Quote from: 5iveTimes on September 11, 2007, 12:50:40 PM
When frost caused a 6 inch surface of ice over the river Liffey in January 1740 the citizens of Dublin played a football match on the frozen river.
In which Dublin lost ..... match was abandoned at half time because there were so many bandwagon "winter" supporters that the ice cracked ;D
Fermanagh legend Peter McGinnity has an Antrim Championship winners medal from his time with St John's.
Shane Mulholland was the last person from Down to receive an All-Star nomination, back in 1999.
God we've been shit since then.
Down have been involved in the All Ireland Football Final which attracted the biggest crowd ever (V Offaly 1961 90,556)
They have also been involved in the Final which attracted the smallest crowd since the redevlopment in the 1920s (V Dublin 1994 58,684)
Every team that played in four All-Ireland finals in a row has always won the fourth one.
Dublin 1899, Wexford '16, Dublin '23, Kerry '32, Kerry '40, Galway '66, Dublin '77, Kerry '81, Cork '90.
the ham sandwich was invented by a kerry fan in the early part of the last century.His name was Paidi o Sandwich and he was from caherciveen, Paidi came up with idea during a game in croke park involving his own home county.During the game he had a slice of ham with him to stave off the hunger when he met a neighbour with a slice of bread and and as they were chatting another neighbour happened along with a slice of bread.It appears paidi had a bet with the 2 lads and won their slices of bread and had nowhere to keep the slice of ham he had with him.He decided that it was best stored between the 2 slices of bread and lo and behold when he took a bite he liked it so much that he decided to call it after himself.
Pure true.
The Leinster senior football trophy is called the Delaney Cup,Named after Bill Delaney who was from the famous Delaney footballing family from Stradbally in Co.Laois
Bill was also a relation of one Tomas "Mossie" Quinn of Dublin Gaa fame,whose mother is a Delaney from Stradbally
In 1910 and 1925 Kerry refused to take part in the AIFs and the final was awarded to the other teams!
Was there ever an All Ireland won with by a scoreline that by todays convention of three points for a goal would have been lost?
Sorry I mean was there ever an all ireland were a team that for example scored 1-5 beat a team that scored 0-9 because a goal at the time was worth five points.
Quote from: David McKeown on September 11, 2007, 06:53:01 PM
Sorry I mean was there ever an all ireland were a team that for example scored 1-5 beat a team that scored 0-9 because a goal at the time was worth five points.
In 1891 Dublin beat Cork, 2-1 to 1-9. A handy win for Cork by todays standards.
Also in 1889 Tipp thumped Laois, 3-6 to 0-0.
According to wikipedia that is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship#Past_winners (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship#Past_winners)
Some interesting Ulster milestones can be found here http://ulster.gaa.ie/milestones.html (http://ulster.gaa.ie/milestones.html)
Quote from: Homer on September 11, 2007, 07:02:05 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on September 11, 2007, 06:53:01 PM
Sorry I mean was there ever an all ireland were a team that for example scored 1-5 beat a team that scored 0-9 because a goal at the time was worth five points.
In 1891 Dublin beat Cork, 2-1 to 1-9. A handy win for Cork by todays standards.
Also in 1989 Tipp thumped Laois, 3-6 to 0-0.
According to wikipedia that is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship#Past_winners (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship#Past_winners)
Some interesting Ulster milestones can be found here http://ulster.gaa.ie/milestones.html (http://ulster.gaa.ie/milestones.html)
You sure you don't mean 1889?
Sorry Laoislad I have edited my post. Must have subconsciously thought it was more recent result. :D
Quote from: Homer on September 11, 2007, 07:55:34 PM
Sorry Laoislad I have edited my post. Must have subconsciously thought it was more recent result. :D
Wouldn't blame ya either :-[
Quote from: blanketattack on September 11, 2007, 05:18:59 PM
Every team that played in four All-Ireland finals in a row has always won the fourth one.
Dublin 1899, Wexford '16, Dublin '23, Kerry '32, Kerry '40, Galway '66, Dublin '77, Kerry '81, Cork '90.
That's interesting, Cork can stay at home on Sunday so.
Quote from: Homer on September 11, 2007, 07:02:05 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on September 11, 2007, 06:53:01 PM
Sorry I mean was there ever an all ireland were a team that for example scored 1-5 beat a team that scored 0-9 because a goal at the time was worth five points.
In 1891 Dublin beat Cork, 2-1 to 1-9. A handy win for Cork by todays standards.
Would that not be 11 points to 14 then???
Quote from: hardstation on September 11, 2007, 10:46:07 PM
Quote from: Muzz on September 11, 2007, 10:19:43 PM
Quote from: Homer on September 11, 2007, 07:02:05 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on September 11, 2007, 06:53:01 PM
Sorry I mean was there ever an all ireland were a team that for example scored 1-5 beat a team that scored 0-9 because a goal at the time was worth five points.
In 1891 Dublin beat Cork, 2-1 to 1-9. A handy win for Cork by todays standards.
Would that not be 11 points to 14 then???
I was going to say.
Apologies for the confusion lads. I forgot to mention that in 1891 the rule was actually that a goal out numbers any number of points. So in the above case the only score that mathers would be 2 goals to 1.
For the week thats in it:
- This is Kerry's 4th All-Ireland Final in a row, and 6th final in the last 8 seasons.
- This will be Kerry's 55th senior final, and Kerry will be aiming for their 35th title.
- This will be Cork's 21st Final. Their last appearance was in 1999, defeated by Meath. Cork are aiming for their 7th title
- Kerry have won Sam 27 times, Cork have won it 4 times.
- Cork's most recent title came in 1990 over Meath, when they also completed the last 2-in-row, having defeating Mayo in 1989.
- This will be the first time Kerry and Cork have clashed in an All-Ireland Final, and the second time two counties from the same province have met in the final, with Tyrone defeating Armagh in 2003.
- Cork have played 6 games en route to the final scoring 7-90 (Av 18.5) and conceding 1-61 (Av 10.7)
- Kerry have played 4 games en route to the final scoring 5-57 (Av 18) and conceding 2-44 (Av 12.5)
- Kerry and Cork have played 12 times in Championship since 2000 with Kerry leading the running with 8 wins, 2 loses and 2 draws, with Cork winning the two replays.
Last 12 Championship meetings scores
2007 Munster Final Kerry 1-15 v 1-13 Cork
2006 All Irl Semi Kerry 0-16 v 0-10 Cork
2006 Munster Final Cork 1-12 v 0-09 Kerry
2006 Munster Final Kerry 0-10 v 0-10 Cork
2005 All Irl Semi Kerry 1-19 v 0-09 Cork
2005 Munster Final Kerry 1-11 v 0-11 Cork
2004 Munster Semi Kerry 0-15 v 0-07 Cork
2002 All Ir Semi Kerry 3-19 v 2-07 Cork
2002 Munster Semi Cork 0-15 v 1-09 Kerry
2002 Munster Semi Kerry 0-08 v 0-08 Cork
2001 Munster Final Kerry 0-19 v 1-13 Cork
2000 Munster Semi Kerry 2-15 v 1-13 Cork
- When Cavan defeated Meath in the 1952 All Ireland Final Des and Liam Maguire played on the successful Cavan team while their younger brother Brendan was midfield on the losing Meath team........
- Up to 1892 a goal outweighed any number of points and teams consisted of 21 players.............
- Kerrys first all Ireland senior title was in hurling (1891).......
- From 1892 a goal was equal to 5 points and was reduced to its present status in 1896.....
- Peter Mc Dermott refereed the 1953 all Ireland final and captained Meath to victory in 1954.......
- From 1892 teams were reduced to 17 a side and from 1913 reduced to 15..........
- Players first wore jersey numbers in the 1923 all Ireland hurling semi-final.........
- The highest ever attendance at an all Ireland football final was 90,556 in 1961 Down v Offaly.......
- In the early years counties were represented in the all Ireland series by their club champions.......
- In the first alI Ireland football final Limerick Commercials defeated Dundalk Young Irelands..........
- The old Sam Maguire cup was first played for in 1928 and the first recipient was Bill Gannon the Kildare Captain.........
- The Hogan stand was named after Michael Hogan a Tipperary footballer who was shot dead on bloody Sunday 1920 when British Troops opened fire in Croke Park during a Tipperary v Dublin game. Twelve spectators were also killed...........
- Prior to 1966 the lower deck of the Cusack stand was standing only. When that area was seated the capacity of the Stadium was reduced to 75,000.......
- Five Delaney brothers played for Laois in the 1936 football final when they were defeated by Mayo. Their uncle Tom was in goals......
- In the early years "point posts" were located either side of the goals for point scoring. These were abolished in 1910.........
- Former an Taoiseach Jack Lynch won six all Ireland medals in a row from 1941 to 1946. Five in hurling and one in football..........
- On 17th March 1962 Des Foley of Dublin and Leinster became the only player to win Railway cup medals in hurling and football on the same day.......
- Hill 16 was so named because the rubble from the aftermath of the 1916 rising was dumped there.........
- When Kerry played Dublin on the opening of Cusack Park Mullingar in 1934 the ball was dropped from an Aeroplane for the "throw in".........
- In the early years all the players from both teams, including the goalkeepers, lined up in the middle of the field for the "throw in"........
- The first live televised games were the Railway Cup hurling and football finals on 17th March 1962.......
- Dublin won the all Ireland football title in 1906 and 1907 with players from ten different counties but had none from Dublin itself......
- Patsy Lynch of Cavan at 16 years of age was the youngest player ever to play in an all Ireland football final (1928)......
- From 1910 the midfielders and forwards from each team lined up in centrefield for the "throw in" and from 1965 only the midfielders contested the "throw in"..........
- All of the Tulla team representing Clare in the 1889 all Ireland hurling final played in their bare feet......
- Jack Murphy had a great game for Kerry against Kildare in the 1926 all Ireland final which ended in a draw. He died of Pneumonia before the replay........
- The Cork and Kilkenny teams refused to play on the Ashtown pitch, when they arrived for the 1893 all Ireland hurling final, because of its poor condition. The players carried the goalposts to the Phoenix Park and played the final there.......
- The first Radio broadcast was by Paddy Mehigan in the all Ireland hurling semi final between Kilkenny and Galway on 28th August 1926.......
- The last player to captain a county to two all Ireland football titles in a row was Tony Hanahoe of Dublin in 1976 and 1977.......
- Mick Doyle of Kerry had won four all Ireland senior football medals before his 21st birthday. (1929 to 1932).......
- Down, Donegal and Derry all won all Ireland Football titles in the nineties and Tyrone appeared in an all Ireland final in 1995 but up to 1956 none of them had won an Ulster senior title.......
- The GAA purchased Croke Park in 1913 for £3,500..........
- The first Radio broadcast by Miceal O'Hehir was the 1938 all Ireland football semi-final between Galway and Monaghan.........
Sambo McNaughton was named so because he won a Brazilian dance-off at the Cushendall festival. They thought Samba was girly.
QuoteIn 1910 and 1925 Kerry refused to take part in the AIFs and the final was awarded to the other teams!
Why did they refuse an who won the finals by default?
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 11, 2007, 11:45:52 PM
QuoteIn 1910 and 1925 Kerry refused to take part in the AIFs and the final was awarded to the other teams!
Why did they refuse an who won the finals by default?
1910 - Louth won. Kerry refused to travel owing to a dispute with the Great Southern & Western Railway Company.
1925 - Galway won. After an objection and counter-objection, Cavan and Kerry were both disqualified after their semi-final (which Kerry won by a point - 1-7 to 2-3). The Connacht championship had yet to be completed.
According http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship#endnote_1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Ireland_Senior_Football_Championship#endnote_1)
Kevin Heffernan won an amazing 15 Dublin Senior Championship medals in football and 6 Senior medals in Hurling
Laois were the first winners of the National football league. ( 1927 )
Dublin won the 1977 all Ireland football final with the identical team which won the 1976 title
The only man to captain 3 all Ireland winning football teams in a row was Sean Kennedy of Wexford. ( 1915 to 1917 )
Mayo were undefeated in 57 League and Championship games between August 1935 and August 1937
Wexford were the only County to play in 6 all Ireland football finals in a row. ( 1913 to 1918 )
Sean O Neill of Down won a record 8 Railway cup medals with Ulster in football.
Mayo won 6 National Football League titles in a row from 1934 to 1939.
Kerry were the only Munster County not to take part in the first all Ireland Senior football championship in 1887.
Galway are the only County to lose 3 all Ireland football finals in a row. ( 1940 to 1942 ).
Christy Ring of Cork won a record 18 Railway cup medals with Munster in Hurling.
Up to 1910 Ladies got in free to all GAA matches including the all Ireland finals.
Ray Cummins of Cork won all stars in both hurling and football in 1971.
The first ever all Ireland football final in 1887 was won by Limerick but the players did not receive their medals until 1912.
James Kelleher scored a point for Cork from a puck out in the 1905 all Ireland hurling final.
The only all Ireland final in which extra time was played was in 1891 when Kerry beat Wexford to win their only hurling title.
Brian Murphy of Cork won all Ireland medals at minor under 21 and senior in both hurling and football.
The admission fee for the 1910 all Ireland final was 6 old pence.
Teddy Mc Carthy is the only player to win all Ireland medals in hurling and football in the same year. ( 1990 )
No Ulster county and only one from Connacht ( Galway) took part in the first all Ireland football championship.
The first County Board formed was in Wexford in 1885.
Mick Spillane made his first championship start for Kerry in the 1978 all Ireland final v Dublin.
The Spillane brothers won a total of 13 all star awards.
Tony Hanahoe was Captain and Manager of Dublin in 1977.
Tom Cashman of Cork had 5 all Ireland medals before he was 21 years old.
D J Carey won 9 all Star awards.
The 3rd annual congress ( 1887 ) ended in uproar as delegates fought each other with fists and sticks.
Paddy Riordan of Tipperary scored all his teams total of 6 – 8 when they beat Kilkenny by 6 – 8 to 1 – 1 in the 1895 all Ireland hurling final.
Larry Tomkins played football for Wicklow, Kildare and Cork.
The penalty kick was introduced in 1940.
Antrim junior club Ahogill was formed in 1941 and their first set of jerseys were sponsored by Ballymena United soccer club.
Willie Walsh of Waterford refereed 5 all Ireland hurling finals in a row.
Four men have won dual all Stars....Ray Cummins, Jimmy Barry Murphy and Brian Murphy of Cork and Liam Currams of Offaly.
The first penalty awarded in an all Ireland final was in 1948 and was converted by Padraig Carney of Mayo against Cavan.
Pat Spillane has 9 All Star awards including 6 in a row from ( 1976 to 1981 ).
Paddy Riordan of Thurles won an all Ireland hurling medal with Tipperary on 15 March 1896 while his brother won a football medal on the same day.
On 4th August 1918 one thousand club matches were organised by the GAA to defy a ban by the British against playing gaelic games.
Mayo have lost 12 all Ireland foot ball finals since 1989.
An average of 7 Hurleys are broken in each adult match.
The Cork County hurling final of 1977 between St Finbarrs and Glen Rovers drew an attendance of 34,151.
Kevin Mussen was the first Captain to take the Sam Maguire cup across the border
Mattie Mc Donagh is the only Connacht man to have 4 all Ireland senior medals.
The 1947 all Ireland football final was played in the polo grounds in New York.
Dublin won 6 all Ireland senior hurling titles but apart from Jim Byrne in 1938 all their players were non Dubliners
Kerry beat Mayo in the 1973 all Ireland under 21 final and the winning goal was scored by Martin Ferris now Sinn Fein TD
Seamus Murphy played for Kerry in 11 munster finals and won them all
The fair county of Laois provided the only Irish Pope in the history of the Roman Catholic Church.
St. Benedict of Aran (Pope Pupeus) succeeded Pope Heremidas in 523 taking the name Pope Pupeus
- he only reigned for 2 days as he had to get back to play a County Hurling Final for his native Durrow against Camross.
Pope John the 1st was his successor.
Quote from: Homer on September 11, 2007, 11:53:50 PM
Wexford were the only County to play in 6 all Ireland football finals in a row. ( 1913 to 1918 )
What about Dublin in 74,75,76,77,78,79?
Mickey McStay invented the square ball rule.
QuoteWhat about Dublin in 74,75,76,77,78,79?
They lost to Kerry in a semi final in one of those years I think.
I'm wrong - Dublin did play in those 6 finals in a row.