Just out of interest ...
Dublin (appealing Peader Cartons banning) and Cork appealing everything all the time. What county boards "usually" take their punishment (most of the time) and get on with things ?
I would have thought Kerry myself but that's because I just can't remember them getting any suspensions etc ....
never found tyrone county board (or any of them for that matter ) appealing
(no - i dont have a real answer to your question, sorry)
Mayo won't rock the boat to guarantee their own personal gain
Tyrone of course !
Waterford famously never appealed the Mullane suspension a few years back
On the very rare occasions that any Down player has been involved in disciplinary breaches, we have accepted the decision of the disciplinary body without demur
Against Wexford in this year's SFC the ref clearly didn't play three minutes injury time that he should have, Louth CB never said Boo!!
Cork CB are always whinging, they have a persecution complex
County Down have even been financially rewarded in the past for not appealing awful decisions.
Explain Wobbler
We've done it a couple of times in the last few years.
Micko was suspended from the sideline last year for incursions onto the pitch against Offaly I think but we successfully appealed with the help of video evidence.
Also appealed Brendan Quigley's suspension ahead of the Leinster U21 final against Offaly this year.
Quote from: sligeach on August 31, 2007, 04:32:49 PM
What county boards "usually" take their punishment (most of the time) and get on with things ?
Depends on whether the punishment was justified or not in the first place doesn't it?
Quote from: lynchbhoy on August 31, 2007, 06:52:10 PM
never found tyrone county board (or any of them for that matter ) appealing
(no - i dont have a real answer to your question, sorry)
Wrong - Ryan McMenamin - 2005
Quote from: Pangurban on September 01, 2007, 12:37:12 AM
On the very rare occasions that any Down player has been involved in disciplinary breaches, we have accepted the decision of the disciplinary body without demur
Wrong - Wee Jimmy in 2003.
QuoteI would have thought Kerry myself but that's because I just can't remember them getting any suspensions etc
Not directly, but the Kerry county board controversially overturned a red card handed to Darragh O'Shea in a county semi-final (or perhaps earlier club match) a few years back to enable him to play in an All-Ireland semi or final 2/3 weeks later.
also rescinded a 6mth club ban on galvin - which became 3 mths when o connor intervened.
Quote from Heffo---Wrong - Wee Jimmy in 2003.
You are the one who is wrong Heffo, Down were only involved in the appeals procedure in this case because an action being taken against our player in the courts,necessitated that there be a higher lever of clarity as to what actually occured, than would normally be the case if only a suspension was involved. Any player in this situation is entitled to and should reasonably expect the full support of his Co.Board. In the normal course of events we do not appeal disciplinary decisions.
Quote from: 5iveTimes on September 02, 2007, 01:57:11 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on September 01, 2007, 05:12:38 PM
County Down have even been financially rewarded in the past for not appealing awful decisions.
Quote from: Pangurban on September 01, 2007, 11:35:33 PM
Explain Wobbler
I presume Wobbler is refering to the Christy Ring final a couple of years ago when Down lost to Westmeath. The referee blew the game up a couple of minutes early, at a stage when Down were coming back into the game having trailed for most of it. Down asked for a rematch, but didnt appeal the decision to the Croke Park. Westmeath refused the request for the rematch and Croke Park eventually gave the Down Board a sum of money (something tells me it was around £10k) as a reward for their sportsmanship.
This was a game down were expected to win, having topped the group and beat Westmeath in the process. They just didnt perform on the day. There was also some problems getting the money to the players, I seem to recall the players got vouchers instead of cash and the hurlers werent too happy about it. Still the county board made a few quid and didnt seem interested in a rematch and a chance at a trophy.
The players got vouchers for either O'Neills or some hotels i think. Some cashed in their vouchers so to speak.
The county boards decision not to appeal but to ask for a goodwill gesture was utter balls and Westmeath were right not to give it. The county board would of been better saying nothing
Also Down hurlers also appealed the sending off of Liam Clarke a few years ago in a NHL game against Antrim. It was a case of mistaken identity and Liam did get off on appeal but Stephen Murray ended up with the suspension then. At first the county board weren't going to appeal but were put under pressure by Ballygalget club as the footage shown by the BBC on the monday night after the game showed Liam well out of the way as Murph took a lump out of Aidan Delargy I think it was.
Certainly the Down county board don't like to upset the Croke park apple cart if at all possible especially when the hurlers are involved.
Quote from: Pangurban on September 03, 2007, 12:45:09 AM
Quote from Heffo---Wrong - Wee Jimmy in 2003.
You are the one who is wrong Heffo, Down were only involved in the appeals procedure in this case because an action being taken against our player in the courts,necessitated that there be a higher lever of clarity as to what actually occured, than would normally be the case if only a suspension was involved. Any player in this situation is entitled to and should reasonably expect the full support of his Co.Board. In the normal course of events we do not appeal disciplinary decisions.
You made an assertion that Down have "have accepted the decision of the disciplinary body without demur" - in the case of James McCartan, Down appealed and had their appeal upheld by way of a technicality - rule 152, the rule dealing with investigation procedures was misapplied. Down got him off on a technicality, he was not vindicated and it in no way helped or influenced the other procedures that were ongoing.
I'm hardly wrong to point this out. You however, were wrong to assert that "On the very rare occasions that any Down player has been involved in disciplinary breaches, we have accepted the decision of the disciplinary body without demur"....
Westmeath - Rory O'Connell getting a High Court injunction to get a 3 month suspension removed on a technicality.
The Kilkenny Football board ;D
They wouldn't appeal if the entire team was banned for having beards
Is that what happened? I always wondered.
U might want to read the question again dere BNMM...
QuoteThey wouldn't appeal if the entire team was banned for having beards
;D
Every county will appeal if they feel hard done by. It's going to court that's unacceptable IMO. Westmeath are the worst example of this type of behaviour.
As the Great Biffo Nation, normally so voluble hereabouts, seem as shy on this topic as their Board is at appealling decisions, I nominate Offaly as being a Board that take their licks.
I have to say I'm quite proud of our board in that regard, albeit some others might see it differently.
In 2000 McManus committed a Darragh O'Se like offence in the Offaly club championship, we could have given him four weeks and had him available for the summer, instead he got three months - and rightly so. Interestingly his red card stream dried up after that.
In the Kildare incident we didn't appeal anything, and we were proven to be in the right - and not on a technicality either.
Also on the Ken Casey incident we did exactly what I thought was correct - concede that Longford should have the points without demur, but appeal the suspension of the player, who after all was an 18 year old playing because he was asked to and was told it was clear. To suspend him for 6 months for a board feck up would have been wrong. Possibly people disagree with that logic, but i think once we didn't contest Longford getting the points, we were in honourable territory.
Quote from: Lone Shark on September 04, 2007, 12:27:51 PM
I have to say I'm quite proud of our board in that regard, albeit some others might see it differently.
In 2000 McManus committed a Darragh O'Se like offence in the Offaly club championship, we could have given him four weeks and had him available for the summer, instead he got three months - and rightly so. Interestingly his red card stream dried up after that.
In the Kildare incident we didn't appeal anything, and we were proven to be in the right - and not on a technicality either.
Also on the Ken Casey incident we did exactly what I thought was correct - concede that Longford should have the points without demur, but appeal the suspension of the player, who after all was an 18 year old playing because he was asked to and was told it was clear. To suspend him for 6 months for a board feck up would have been wrong. Possibly people disagree with that logic, but i think once we didn't contest Longford getting the points, we were in honourable territory.
Sure ye don't need the CB in Offaly, you have people power, ala the mass sit down on the pitch after a certain Clare game ;D