If ye got 10 seconds to spare tomorrow at 14.20 dont miss this. tyson gay v asafa powell, two of the fastest men to ever live...
more like my drugs are better than your drugs kind of race
Great I've a splitting hangover and need panadol. These two lads can run down to the chemist for me and should know where to find it
why is everyone so sceptical?
100 metre final.... thats GAY..
Quotewhy is everyone so sceptical?
Victor Conte and the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative
where any of these two clients of his?
Quotewhere any of these two clients of his?
Don't know don't care, athletics has a long way to go before it will interest me again....
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 25, 2007, 02:59:36 PM
Quotewhere any of these two clients of his?
Don't know don't care, athletics has a long way to go before it will interest me again....
Im sure the World of Athletics will be in mourning for the loss of your support ::)
QuoteIm sure the World of Athletics will be in mourning for the loss of your support Roll Eyes
Think about that, Athletics needs sponsors, sponsors need punters to advertise to, I am a punter, a Joe soap with a high disposable income, sponsors would love me and my ilk to be interested in Athletics. However it is a tainted sport and until it cleans up and stays clean for a sustained period I'd have, and I'm sure the majority are like me as well, no interest,this is my opinion which you asked for by the way
So roll your eyes all you want but your being naive if you ask me...
Powell 'dandered' to a 10.01 time. Gay had to work to get 10.06. Should be a cracker
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 25, 2007, 03:11:31 PM
QuoteIm sure the World of Athletics will be in mourning for the loss of your support Roll Eyes
Think about that, Athletics needs sponsors, sponsors need punters to advertise to, I am a punter, a Joe soap with a high disposable income, sponsors would love me and my ilk to be interested in Athletics. However it is a tainted sport and until it cleans up and stays clean for a sustained period I'd have, and I'm sure the majority are like me as well, no interest,this is my opinion which you asked for by the way
So roll your eyes all you want but your being naive if you ask me...
Yeah your few cents is gonna make all the difference ::) You don't half have a high opinion of yourself do you
QuoteYeah your few cents is gonna make all the difference Roll Eyes You don't half have a high opinion of yourself do you
So you obviously thought about the point I was making... ???
Since you can't grasp the fundamentals of sponsorship I'll leave you to your delusion
Quote from: 5iveTimes on August 25, 2007, 03:49:45 PM
Drugs or not, the 100 metres final in any big event is always worth watching.
Are any of them clean?
Yeah i love watching the 100,200,400 races should be good
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 25, 2007, 03:55:44 PM
QuoteYeah your few cents is gonna make all the difference Roll Eyes You don't half have a high opinion of yourself do you
So you obviously thought about the point I was making... ???
Since you can't grasp the fundamentals of sponsorship I'll leave you to your delusion
As i said im sure the
WORLD of Athletics is going to miss you
Well supersub,
the guy was just letting you know his thoughts.I too have cannot shout for sportsmen of dubious distinction.Lance armstrong, barry bonds or mark maguire or any of the other overpaid steroid monsters in sport are cheats and not worth a second look.Barry bonds makes me feel sick when I see all the fans bowing to him, he is steroids out and out.
If everyone stopped being blind to the facts then bonds and co would have to walk away and leave it to the real sportsmen.alex rodrigeuz, jeter,michael jordan,beckham,mark messier and tom brady are real sportsmen that look like they train or did train hard without drugs as a platform.
Not a massive fan of beckham because he is overpaid and overrated, but you must admit he is a good sportsman.
Another easy run for Powell. Eased off for last 40 metres and ended up second.
Gay had a very impressive run after a poor start. Much better than yesterday and looks good.
Cant wait for final
gay in 9.85........Phew :o
Quote from: Square Ball on August 26, 2007, 02:22:33 PM
gay in 9.85........Phew :o
...after a poor enough start!! Powell 3rd!
Win for Tyson Gay. I honestly thought Powell would walk it. Powell led at 60 metres but Gay put the boot down and pulled away. Powell beaten into 3rd. Great stuff. Brit was crap.
how did gay win that, i thought he was dead and buried after the start. how they run with the chains hanging off some of their necks ill never know.. great race
The chains are for luck but they would annoy me when running.Howfast can you run 100 meters?
Quote from: mannix on August 26, 2007, 03:44:11 PM
The chains are for luck but they would annoy me when running.Howfast can you run 100 meters?
3 days :-[
what time is the final at?
i see im a bit late :-[ :D
Jeremy Wariner in the 400m will be a hell of a race to watch - don't think he'll match Michael Johnsons time of 43.18 but if not this year then definitely with the next year or 2. Will be the first man to break 43 seconds for 400m
blast that is a massive statement, i personally think johnsons 400m record will stay for a long long time, Wariner is good but he'll never do what MJ did.
was listening earlier to MJ talk on BBC and he said apparently theirs some kid in US called Walter Dix whos run 19.6 in the 200m yet he aint even running in the WC...MJ says hes the next big thing on the track...cant wait to see it!
Quote from: mannix on August 25, 2007, 05:51:00 PM
Well supersub,
the guy was just letting you know his thoughts.I too have cannot shout for sportsmen of dubious distinction.Lance armstrong, barry bonds or mark maguire or any of the other overpaid steroid monsters in sport are cheats and not worth a second look.Barry bonds makes me feel sick when I see all the fans bowing to him, he is steroids out and out.
If everyone stopped being blind to the facts then bonds and co would have to walk away and leave it to the real sportsmen.alex rodrigeuz, jeter,michael jordan,beckham,mark messier and tom brady are real sportsmen that look like they train or did train hard without drugs as a platform.
Lance Armstrong? you my friend are very very wrong. tell ya what take a read at his books and the only drugs he did was the ones that cured him of the cancer. if u dont know the facts then keep your bullshitting to yourself!! p***k!
QuoteIf everyone stopped being blind to the facts then bonds and co would have to walk away and leave it to the real sportsmen.alex rodrigeuz, jeter,michael jordan,beckham,mark messier and tom brady are real sportsmen that look like they train or did train hard without drugs as a platform.
Even if Beckham didn't take drugs, he had no problem playing along side Rio Ferdinand. Can you still consider your sucesses to be genuine if you are clean but your team mates aren't?
Quoteblast that is a massive statement, i personally think johnsons 400m record will stay for a long long time, Wariner is good but he'll never do what MJ did.
Wariner ran 43.50 a couple of weeks ago. Breaking 43 seconds is his stated career goal while winning a pile of world and olympic titles along the way
Quote from: tyroneboi on August 26, 2007, 10:01:48 PM
Quote from: mannix on August 25, 2007, 05:51:00 PM
Well supersub,
the guy was just letting you know his thoughts.I too have cannot shout for sportsmen of dubious distinction.Lance armstrong, barry bonds or mark maguire or any of the other overpaid steroid monsters in sport are cheats and not worth a second look.Barry bonds makes me feel sick when I see all the fans bowing to him, he is steroids out and out.
If everyone stopped being blind to the facts then bonds and co would have to walk away and leave it to the real sportsmen.alex rodrigeuz, jeter,michael jordan,beckham,mark messier and tom brady are real sportsmen that look like they train or did train hard without drugs as a platform.
Lance Armstrong? you my friend are very very wrong. tell ya what take a read at his books and the only drugs he did was the ones that cured him of the cancer. if u dont know the facts then keep your bullshitting to yourself!! p***k!
Do you think he is gonna f**king admit to taking drugs???
Balboa that's what I thought too. Armstrong is hardly gonna admit in his autobiography that he won everything whilst juiced up on EPO. Tyroneboi are you really that thick?!
it has been proven that almost all of Armstrongs competitors were on the juice, i think it is incredibly naive to think that he could beat them for so long without been on it himself.
Cynical crowd of hoors ye all are! Good to see the 'innocent until proven giulty' idea of a democracy is still in full flight here... sure maybe we should bring internment back to Northern Ireland... "sure all his neighbours are terrorists so he must be too!"... wise up!!!
so are you not a bit sceptical that all of his main competitors have been either tested postitive or admitted to taking steriods. i just find it hard to believe that he could beat them all when they are juiced up and he is not.
Having read his books and seen numerous interviews I find it extremely hard to believe that he would take drugs... even more than that I would say that given todays climate of papparazzi and gutter journalism considering the amount of fame and celebrity Lance Armstrong enjoys I think the press would have been able to find and exploit even the tiniest indiscretion... had it existed!
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 27, 2007, 12:28:37 PM
Balboa that's what I thought too. Armstrong is hardly gonna admit in his autobiography that he won everything whilst juiced up on EPO. Tyroneboi are you really that thick?!
never said that he would admit it in a book. wat i am saying is that if you read his books then you will get an appreciation of the kind of man and competitor he is. so because he won all those tour de france's means he is on drugs? if u think like that then u must think tiger woods, roger federer and all those other top sportsmen are on drugs as well. just because u are on top of your sport doesnt mean you are on drugs. every single test armstrong has taken has come back clean so maybe your the thick one baloney!!
Lance- The case against
Emma O'Reilly, formerly Armstrong's personal masseuse, makes the following points in LA Confidential the book David Walsh co-authored:
* Armstrong told O'Reilly his hematocrit was 41, nine percent below the permitted maximum, and that he was "going to do what the others do" to enhance it.
* In July 1999, Armstrong asked her for makeup to cover bruises on his arm from injections. The authors maintain that legal injections are generally injected in the buttocks.
* In May 1998, Armstrong asked her to dispose of syringes after the Tour of the Netherlands.
* In May 1999, she ferried 24 pills from Johan Bruyneel, the USPS team director, to Armstrong near his home in Nice.
* She provides details of Armstrong's 1999 positive test for steroids, claiming Armstrong told her he had used a steroid around the time of the Route du Sud that he thought would have cleared his system before the Tour. O'Reilly says doctors backdated a prescription for a legal cream containing the steroid, and organizers allowed it, even though the cream wasn't listed on Armstrong's mandatory medical form.
Doping is inseparable from bike racing. (If you're interested, check out The Crooked Path to Victory: Drugs and Cheating in Professional Bike Racing, by Les Woodland.) In 2004 alone, three current and former world champions were busted, one team was nearly disbanded, and several pro cyclists went public with detailed, harrowing stories of doping practices on their teams, including one who said he was given a substance designed for anemic dogs. What would people say about the GAA if O'Se, Fay, Bradley, Brogan etc tested positive in a single year? If a bunch of them died of heart attacks—as eight cyclists did in 2003-4?
Also after the 2004 season, Armstrong's former mechanic—Mike Anderson, alleged that he'd found a box of steroids in the bathroom of Armstrong's Girona apartment.
Quote from: tyroneboi on August 27, 2007, 02:04:25 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 27, 2007, 12:28:37 PM
Balboa that's what I thought too. Armstrong is hardly gonna admit in his autobiography that he won everything whilst juiced up on EPO. Tyroneboi are you really that thick?!
never said that he would admit it in a book. wat i am saying is that if you read his books then you will get an appreciation of the kind of man and competitor he is. so because he won all those tour de france's means he is on drugs? if u think like that then u must think tiger woods, roger federer and all those other top sportsmen are on drugs as well. just because u are on top of your sport doesnt mean you are on drugs. every single test armstrong has taken has come back clean so maybe your the thick one baloney!!
but the have been feck all golfers/tennis players caught doping!!! cant you see the difference?And there is no need to insult people who dont agree with you Almost all of the top cyclist of the last 10 years have tested positive, if you cant feel just a little sceptical then you must be the purest of the pure. Think about it for a second , everyone else (exageration i know) were on drugs and they still couldnt beat him, it defies reason that he was clean
QuoteLance- The case against
Emma O'Reilly, formerly Armstrong's personal masseuse, makes the following points in LA Confidential the book David Walsh co-authored:
* Armstrong told O'Reilly his hematocrit was 41, nine percent below the permitted maximum, and that he was "going to do what the others do" to enhance it.
* In July 1999, Armstrong asked her for makeup to cover bruises on his arm from injections. The authors maintain that legal injections are generally injected in the buttocks.
* In May 1998, Armstrong asked her to dispose of syringes after the Tour of the Netherlands.
* In May 1999, she ferried 24 pills from Johan Bruyneel, the USPS team director, to Armstrong near his home in Nice.
* She provides details of Armstrong's 1999 positive test for steroids, claiming Armstrong told her he had used a steroid around the time of the Route du Sud that he thought would have cleared his system before the Tour. O'Reilly says doctors backdated a prescription for a legal cream containing the steroid, and organizers allowed it, even though the cream wasn't listed on Armstrong's mandatory medical form.
QuoteAlso after the 2004 season, Armstrong's former mechanic—Mike Anderson, alleged that he'd found a box of steroids in the bathroom of Armstrong's Girona apartment.
This is all hearsay and opinion! Where are the facts? ANd if there are facts why haven't they been requested by investigative bodies or the governing body?
Quote
Doping is inseparable from bike racing. (If you're interested, check out The Crooked Path to Victory: Drugs and Cheating in Professional Bike Racing, by Les Woodland.) In 2004 alone, three current and former world champions were busted, one team was nearly disbanded, and several pro cyclists went public with detailed, harrowing stories of doping practices on their teams, including one who said he was given a substance designed for anemic dogs. What would people say about the GAA if O'Se, Fay, Bradley, Brogan etc tested positive in a single year? If a bunch of them died of heart attacks—as eight cyclists did in 2003-4?
I never said that cycling isn't rife with drugs... facts show that it quite clearly is. The only thing that gets me is the fact that people use Armstrong's success as a stick to beat him with and the fact that people assume oh well he's that good he must be cheating.
I can understand to a better degree people who reason it slightly by saying, well everyone else was on them and they still weren't able to beat him but the fact that there is no proof and that everyone goes on speculation and hearsay really p*sses me off!
The womens 100m was worth watching. You could set your pint on their bums and still have room to lean on it yourself.
QuoteThe womens 100m was worth watching. You could set your pint on their bums and still have room to lean on it yourself.
Post of the day!
seen that lads, some of them bootys would take a fair bit of slappin! jaysus it was a tight race...glad to see the yank beat though
Anyone see the 10000m final, pure brilliance. Surely the long distance runners wouldnt be on drugs?
dreamer watched it, thought with lap and a half to go bekele was a goner but when he kicked with 200m to go he looked as if he was running 1500m, sheer brilliance just like Gabrisilasshi (sp) before him...to be honest i think he was toying with the 2 others when he let them get a few metres on him...totally unreal endurance to push it out for 9600m and then to sprint 400m flat out last lap...drugs i dont think so, them african boys could run before they could walk, simply a heart the size of a football and lungs like wheelie bins...genetically perfect for the sport!!
Quoteseen that lads, some of them bootys would take a fair bit of slappin!
Aye, and your hand would defo be sorer than their asses. Fine specimens of lassies altogether!
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12040_2693130,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12040_2693130,00.html)
dare not mention what absolutely everyone, including Nicola Sanders, is thinking here then...
Quote from: Uladh on August 29, 2007, 05:32:35 PM
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12040_2693130,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12040_2693130,00.html)
dare not mention what absolutely everyone, including Nicola Sanders, is thinking here then...
Aye its funny how the Brits sweep any guilt under the carpet.......
4 x 100 metre final coming up at 14.20... should be good