Thougth this topic needed to be started in this section to get an overall view. Both the BBC & UTV have decided to end their mid week programs covering the all ireland due to lack of viewers. Can you fu*kin believe it, talk about equality. This should not be allowed to happen, christ the biggest sporting competion on this Island and these two broadcasters are just going to ignore it. Its a bit of a coincidence that on Tuesday this prod from fermanagh comes out in public to say he was been abused and then all of a sudden they are pullin their coverage. This stinks as usual.
Or maybe it's because there was a lack of viewers? How many of the people complaining about this decision ever actually watched the program?
The disgrace is the GAA's decision 2 years ago to sell the rights for games highlights to pay per view companies, when Free to Air rte is not available throughout the north.
It's a good trick, you have to admit. Make the thing so awful that nobody would watch it. Then pull it because nobody's watching it!
Quote from: Hereiam on August 03, 2007, 09:35:53 AM
Thougth this topic needed to be started in this section to get an overall view. Both the BBC & UTV have decided to end their mid week programs covering the all ireland due to lack of viewers. Can you fu*kin believe it, talk about equality. This should not be allowed to happen, christ the biggest sporting competion on this Island and these two broadcasters are just going to ignore it. Its a bit of a coincidence that on Tuesday this prod from fermanagh comes out in public to say he was been abused and then all of a sudden they are pullin their coverage. This stinks as usual.
Apparently they're going to replace it with a Docu-Drama telling the real story of how Princess Diana was actually murdered by a dark-haired 20 stone man in a white, rhinestoned jumpsuit, who sang "Love me Tender" as he made his escape back to his chipshop on a racehorse which former Royal Butler, Paul Burrell, swears was Shergar.
Both the Beeb and UTV feel they'll attract an even bigger audience of sad, crackpot conspiracy theorists with this than they'll get from GAA fans... ::)
You know you could be right - that "prod from fermanagh" that utv and bbc placed as an undercover agent, playing gaa all his life, has finally succeeded in his nefarious scheme
If they're not up to the job of providing a decent midweek magazine programme, surely the obvious solution is to buy in some type of breaking ball programme from rte. Or a co-production or something.
Cant they apply for a Lottery grant, seeing as the program is for an ethnic minority?
Quote from: nifan on August 03, 2007, 11:11:25 AM
You know you could be right - that "prod from fermanagh" that utv and bbc placed as an undercover agent, playing gaa all his life, has finally succeeded in his nefarious scheme
I think he is a bit of a whinger. You don't see Catholics that play in the Isish league crying on the TV about the abuse they get on a weekly basis, they just get on with it. And don't come back with the 'sure they gat paid for it' crap as their wages would hardly keep them on chewing gum! Get over it, say nothing and it will eventually go away. Cry on the TV and leave means they have won.
Quote from: EC Unique on August 03, 2007, 11:19:25 AM
Quote from: nifan on August 03, 2007, 11:11:25 AM
You know you could be right - that "prod from fermanagh" that utv and bbc placed as an undercover agent, playing gaa all his life, has finally succeeded in his nefarious scheme
I think he is a bit of a whinger. You don't see Catholics that play in the Isish league crying on the TV about the abuse they get on a weekly basis, they just get on with it. And don't come back with the 'sure they gat paid for it' crap as their wages would hardly keep them on chewing gum! Get over it, say nothing and it will eventually go away. Cry on the TV and leave means they have won.
Dear jaysus....
Quote from: EC Unique on August 03, 2007, 11:19:25 AM
You don't see Catholics that play in the Isish league crying on the TV about the abuse they get on a weekly basis, they just get on with it. And don't come back with the 'sure they gat paid for it' crap as their wages would hardly keep them on chewing gum! Get over it, say nothing and it will eventually go away. Cry on the TV and leave means they have won.
And the "Whataboutery and Mopery - Outstanding Contribution" Title passes from The Fat Bigot Fearon to a new Champion, EC Unique.
But I'm sure it won't be long before TFB Fearon comes back with a new challenge...
I think you boys have missed my point. ::) By crying :'( about the situation on TV and giving up the sport he has given in to the abuse and let his abusers win. If he had kept his head down all this will fade away sooner or later.
Quote from: EC Unique on August 03, 2007, 05:39:21 PM
I think you boys have missed my point. ::) By crying :'( about the situation on TV and giving up the sport he has given in to the abuse and let his abusers win. If he had kept his head down all this will fade away sooner or later.
I apologise, since I did, indeed, miss your point.
Mind you, now that I understand it, I think it's idiotic... ???
Quote from: Hereiam on August 03, 2007, 09:35:53 AM
Thougth this topic needed to be started in this section to get an overall view. Both the BBC & UTV have decided to end their mid week programs covering the all ireland due to lack of viewers. Can you fu*kin believe it, talk about equality. This should not be allowed to happen, christ the biggest sporting competion on this Island and these two broadcasters are just going to ignore it. Its a bit of a coincidence that on Tuesday this prod from fermanagh comes out in public to say he was been abused and then all of a sudden they are pullin their coverage. This stinks as usual.
is that really neccessary? beam me fockin up
Actually, the unsurprising revelation that Darren Graham was and had been continually been verbally abused by GAA-playing and supporting bigots wasn't the big story - the really big story was that they had found ONE Protestant in the North who was playing the game.
One too many for plenty of people, clearly.
>:(
You need to look at this from UTV's and BBC NI's point of view, in covering GAA they already know that probably 60% of their normal potential audience will avoid thse programme straight-off because the subject matter simply isn't for or of them. Of the remaining 40% or so, some people aren't interested in sport or even pseudo-sport like GAA, so the target audience is quite small. If they aren't going to support the programmes concerned, the BBC has to consider what's value for money and UTV has to consider its advertisers. Neither broadcaster is a charity.
Quote from: GweylTah on August 04, 2007, 12:09:38 PM
You need to look at this from UTV's and BBC NI's point of view, in covering GAA they already know that probably 60% of their normal potential audience will avoid thse programme straight-off because the subject matter simply isn't for or of them. Of the remaining 40% or so, some people aren't interested in sport or even pseudo-sport like GAA, so the target audience is quite small. If they aren't going to support the programmes concerned, the BBC has to consider what's value for money and UTV has to consider its advertisers. Neither broadcaster is a charity.
Jezuz, I thought you might still be coming down from your happy pills at event horizon last night, obviously not after reading the shite you just posted! pseudo-sport catch a grip even by your wind up standards that is lame.
Im against removing sports from television - we need kids to see the stuff and be inspired to play the games.
Milk cup, gaa, ni games
all good in my opinion - less of the tribalism
Quote from: Gaoth Dobhair Abu on August 04, 2007, 12:20:04 PM
Quote from: GweylTah on August 04, 2007, 12:09:38 PM
You need to look at this from UTV's and BBC NI's point of view, in covering GAA they already know that probably 60% of their normal potential audience will avoid thse programme straight-off because the subject matter simply isn't for or of them. Of the remaining 40% or so, some people aren't interested in sport or even pseudo-sport like GAA, so the target audience is quite small. If they aren't going to support the programmes concerned, the BBC has to consider what's value for money and UTV has to consider its advertisers. Neither broadcaster is a charity.
Jezuz, I thought you might still be coming down from your happy pills at event horizon last night, obviously not after reading the shite you just posted! pseudo-sport catch a grip even by your wind up standards that is lame.
Gweyltah is that the best you can do?????
Agree with Nifan about sports on TV.
There is no excuse whatsoever for the mickey mouse coverage the GAA get from the TV stations given the games immense popularity...............and gweyltah there are a lot of left footers that watch gaelic games, they just don't let on. ;)
Quotewhen Free to Air rte is not available throughout the north
Excuse my ignorance, but is this true? the BBC/UTV have been available since the 80's in the other provinces. If RTE isn't available up North why isn't it and why isn't sorted out? I always watched the championship even though it wasn't great, infact it's Ulster bias was one of it's major failings IMO as I'd imagin most Ulster viewers would be as interested in how the rest of the championship was going as they would in how the Ulster championship progressed.
Quote from: darbyo on August 05, 2007, 12:11:49 AM
Quotewhen Free to Air rte is not available throughout the north
Excuse my ignorance, but is this true? the BBC/UTV have been available since the 80's in the other provinces. If RTE isn't available up North why isn't it and why isn't sorted out? I always watched the championship even though it wasn't great, infact it's Ulster bias was one of it's major failings IMO as I'd imagin most Ulster viewers would be as interested in how the rest of the championship was going as they would in how the Ulster championship progressed.
Youn only get rte in the north if you either
1. subscribe to one of the paid sky packages
2. are lucky enough to live in an area that gets a strong enough overspill signal from one of rte's transmitters.
If / when rte move to digital, for many if not most in the north, the second option is likely to disappear.
The failure of BBC NI / UTV to broadcast any comprehensive (ie all ireland) coverage of gaelic games is one more reason why rte should be made free to air in the north. After all, premiership magazine programmes in the uk cover all teams, not just those within a given region.
The good friday agreement fell short by allowing TnG to be broadcast, but not allowing rte.
The shinners and sdlp have made no headway in getting this sorted.
I've never understood why copyright issues have allegedly stopped getting rte in the north, but have never been a problem broadcasting british tv in the south. Seems wrong to me.
If bbc's freesat goes ahead, then surely there's a chance for rte to use its leverage to get rte broadcast into the north (and possibly the rest of the uk).
What are you on about mate? We don't even get bloody highlights of the irish league for feck sake, all we get is a 5 minute stint of how Linfield did at 5 oclock on a saturday. Bloody cheek. >:(
BBC NI and UTV are pathetic at local coverage, for all sports.
Quote from: 5iveTimes on August 03, 2007, 11:02:10 PM
Wasnt that 4 hours of LIVE Milk Cup football absolutely riveting? Cant wait for the Irish League to start.
Aye, that whole Milk Cup/Irish League connection... :-\
Quote from: MW on August 05, 2007, 09:46:51 PM
Quote from: 5iveTimes on August 03, 2007, 11:02:10 PM
Wasnt that 4 hours of LIVE Milk Cup football absolutely riveting? Cant wait for the Irish League to start.
Aye, that whole Milk Cup/Irish League connection... :-\
There's one big connection, they're both shite to watch
Quote from: 5iveTimes on August 05, 2007, 11:48:54 PM
Quote from: MW on August 05, 2007, 09:46:51 PM
Quote from: 5iveTimes on August 03, 2007, 11:02:10 PM
Wasnt that 4 hours of LIVE Milk Cup football absolutely riveting? Cant wait for the Irish League to start.
Aye, that whole Milk Cup/Irish League connection... :-\
I think the word you are looking for is soccer ;)
Its a poorly attended sport in NI, but it gets the lions shre of the TV coverage.
You're kidding, right? :D
As stated the BBC Has decided to pull out 'The Championship' program due to lack of viewers (im not mentioning UTV Becuase they are wasters as far as GAA is concerned)
An attempt should be made to re-invent the show to include:
- highlights/analysis/predictions from All-Ireland Football and Hurling Championships - something which is already done but why would anyone who has access to RTE watch highlights on a monday/tuesday when the Sunday GAme covers all aspects on a sunday night.
- As the BBC has so many cameras available (we know they have because they can manage to get highlights of all Irish PremierLeague Matches) well why not send these cameras, which are not in use as much as when the GAA is in full championshup flight to cover Internal County Senior/Intermediate/Junior Championships, i know that i would be interested in watching other county championships from other counties as im sure other people would be. Also by doing this you could increase awareness to all tv viewers to GAA matches across all Ulster and overall increase its profile.
By doing this as well as having weekly competitions, actual text-ins where peoples texts can be read across the bottom of the screen and possibly covering other GAA events in Ulster including Ulster Feile football and hurling, All Ireland Feile football and hurling, Handball, Ladies Football and Camogie.
This is by no means an impossible task for the BBC and one which im sure people would enjoy watching as i know one viewer who would appreciate it, ME
Quote from: GweylTah on August 04, 2007, 12:09:38 PM
You need to look at this from UTV's and BBC NI's point of view, in covering GAA they already know that probably 60% of their normal potential audience will avoid thse programme straight-off because the subject matter simply isn't for or of them. Of the remaining 40% or so, some people aren't interested in sport or even pseudo-sport like GAA, so the target audience is quite small. If they aren't going to support the programmes concerned, the BBC has to consider what's value for money and UTV has to consider its advertisers. Neither broadcaster is a charity.
any particular reason why you spend so much time on a gaa board? you have absolutely no interest in anything here. do you have a life?
No reference to yesterdays game in croke park on the BBC NI website frontpage. See the swifts had a great result, so it's not just an anti Tyrone thing.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/default.stm
Look again
Quote from: GweylTah on August 04, 2007, 12:09:38 PM
You need to look at this from UTV's and BBC NI's point of view, in covering GAA they already know that probably 60% of their normal potential audience will avoid thse programme straight-off because the subject matter simply isn't for or of them. Of the remaining 40% or so, some people aren't interested in sport or even pseudo-sport like GAA, so the target audience is quite small. If they aren't going to support the programmes concerned, the BBC has to consider what's value for money and UTV has to consider its advertisers. Neither broadcaster is a charity.
Your some fool, you know that.
took a bit of looking but I see "reference" to the event happening on that link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland/)
but not here
Did anyone watch 'the cube' on ITV on saturday night?
Was good enough. I like that show on BBC on a saturday. Wipe out its very good.
Where are Ant and Dec they have went as leathair off our screens recently.
I don't watch the news on either of these channels, but was there much fuss kicked up around the player being assaulted last weekend in the Portadown v Glentoran match and the subsequent handling on the pitch between the fans. A wee pushing and shoving match between a few players from that County up where Hugo Duncan is from and a few City Slickers from down south resulted in alot of unwarranted coverage in 2006, surely the incident involving Gary Hamilton was of a more serious nature. Although I'm sure your man Watson and the rest wouldn't think so.