now with so much emphasis on fitness just wondering could we come up with an intercounty dream team of heavyweights i'll make a start with the full forward line probably the easiest to pick
Geoffrey Mc Gonigle
Jimmy Keavney
Joe Mc Nally
Niall Sheridan
The Limerick keeper
Ross Munnelly
It would be hard to leave the Bomber out of that full forward line
padraig brogan, ray dempsey, colin corkery
your right 5 sams might have to move geoffrey out to number 11 ;)
joe higgins,conor mort and jayo.
Fat players and need to lose a few pounds
Any three full forwards named so far put together wouldn't outweigh Pa Connolly (Kildare).
Deel rover,
yes i knew ronan, i was in his year in the college.He was a quiete lad and looked like his cousin now that i think of it.Tragic way and stupid way to go, if he had lived he would have had some crack between mayo with all the finals and crossmolina winning the club.
Do you think ciaran mac will have another go at it or is he sick of it.
He should have another few years in him with his ability to make room and take scores even if as a sub.
Dara O'Sé
That Limerick keeper
paddy mccormack (OY)
gerry mc carville (MN)
nudie hughes (MN)
joe cassells (MH)
Martin Gavigan (DL)
Mark Grimley (AH)
Ambrose ODonovan (KY)
Bomber liston (KY)
Geoffrey McGonigle (DY)
Colin Corkery (C)
PJ Gillic (MH)
Niall sheridan (LD)
Jimmy Keavney (D)
Joe McNalley (D)
padraig brogan (MO), ray dempsey (MO), , AJ Tierney (CN) ,plunkett murphy (DY) , John Shorty Traynor (DN),
Donal Smyth (Meath GK), John Grimley (AH) , Stephen/Val Joyce (GY), Joe Kernan (AH), Christy Ryan (CK), Ger Power (KE),
Sean Maher (MO)
Some of these maybe not that fat, just huge men !
or big boned as my granny used to say :)
Bernard Morris (CN) should be in there somewhere. Block of a man.
Hughie Emerson
The boul Audie Hamilton from Dungannon.
'Slim' Donnan (Dn)
Patsy Kerlin (Ty)
Rory Woods from Monagahan. Handy player he is.
Paddy Bradley Derry - a class act.
dont be forgettin benny "taxi for tierney" tierney??
1. Limerick Keeper from a few years back, Think he was O'Donnell
2. B Morris (Cavan)
3. G Ryan (Kildare)
4. G Reid (Armagh)
5. S McCallan (Tyrone)
6. S O'Neill (Roscommon)
7. K Barr (Dublin)
8. J Sheedy (Dublin)
9. D McCabe (Cavan) a year or two ago
10. L Reilly (Cavan)
11. D Marsden (Armagh)
12. R Woods (Monaghan)
13. C Corkery (Cork)
14. N Sheridan (Longford
15. G McGonigle (Derry)
cathal o'rourke would warrant a position in the half forward line ahead of larry reilly i think...
donal murtagh from crossmaglenn, i dunno how that man won so many all-ireland club medals, he was huge no pace and played back in all there games, i dunno how he got away with it but fair play to him
Niall Patterson Antrim Hurler
Quote from: Star Spangler on July 26, 2007, 12:28:19 PM
The boul Audie Hamilton from Dungannon.
Played rugby with Audie in New York. He was a big fellow alright and a little wild if I recall, but then again half that New York Irish rugby team were nuts anyway, great times.
The Donegal keeper Paul Durcan!
Also, there is that McGeehan boy from the Derry minor side, good player too!
At the minute, Joe McMahon has to be in there, as does Ciaran Whelan.
5. S McCallan (Tyrone)
Now Sean Teague might have to get a look in there aswell.
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on July 26, 2007, 12:27:49 PM
Hughie Emerson
jaysus the hoor could move still. saw him play fro elixlip a few years ago.
what about VINNY MURPHY!!
captain S
yer after reminding me of a Geoffrey lookalike
Kildares very own 'Brian spike nolan'
Quote from: neutral on July 26, 2007, 02:26:36 PM
Paddy Bradley Derry - a class act.
the only thing fat about him is his head!
QuoteThe boul Audie Hamilton from Dungannon.
Audie should be in there as any local soccer player should know - nearly impossible to slip the ball past him - only managed it on a few occasions - a gentleman in every way as well as a bloody good keeper!
Quote from: the Deel Rover on July 26, 2007, 11:57:41 AM
now with so much emphasis on fitness just wondering could we come up with an intercounty dream team of heavyweights i'll make a start with the full forward line probably the easiest to pick
Geoffrey Mc Gonigle
Jimmy Keavney
Joe Mc Nally
centre half forward rory woods
Quote from: snappiered on July 26, 2007, 01:00:14 PM
Rory Woods from Monagahan. Handy player he is.
[also/quote]hes also a nephew of the great heavyweight 3 time allstar nudie hughes
A few that spring to mind:
Benny Tierney/Paul Durcan (tough call)
Francie Bellew
Kieran Hughes
Paudie O'Shea
Dermot McCabe
Geffory McGonnigal
Cathal O'Rourke
Paddy Doherty
Paddy McKeever
Adrian Sweeney
Christy Ring
Colin Corkery
Here's an area now where an Cabhan can have a large input and you don't have to go back too far I am afraid-current crop-Larry Reilly/John Tierney/Lorcan Mulvey.
The latter two lined out for us in a televised League game a few winters ago in the piss pours up in Derry (we got mullered as I recall), story goes that there were derry lads falling over themselves at the sight-sixth and seventh tellytubby stuff.
Big john a great loss to the county-great ball player, super underage talent, driven into the ground in his young days and paying for it since in injuries, tendency to put on the weight as well. Last heard of kicking a bit of ball down in Asia and good luck to him. Nice bloke, lovely family.
Larry-the reverse of the before and after dieting ad-take a look at the 1997 seldom fed whippersnapper Greyhound and compare to the 07 version
Mulvey-junior club footballer given the opportunity to shore up the Cavan midfield in first round of this years champinonship-couldn't be arsed to get fit for the thing, out of puff after 20 mins in case of the most unfit man to wear the inter county jersey in the Ulster Championship this year. Serious indictment of our existing management setup.
The inclusion of Dermot McCabe is a bit puzzling or maybe I am misunderstanding the criteria. Heavyweight to me implies overweight, short, tub of lard. Dermot is a big guyI know but he started at wing forward and then to midfield.
A heavyweight that I would but forward is Donal Keogan, manager of Cavan and previously corner forwad for Cavan especially during the winter when he had the excuse that he was getting fit.
agree with you on that one Denn Forever, McCabes inclusion is a bit puzzling. It was probably not so much weight as seriously impaired mobility due to a succession of injuries over the years that might have got him a few mentions. In any event, lazy analysis of Cavan big men, we have plenty of those peppered in among the midgets.
Have no doubt that if Butt Connolly's inter-county career had not been cut short by wee Marty that he would eventually have graduated a la Larry Reilly
Quote from: Hardy on July 26, 2007, 12:10:32 PM
Any three full forwards named so far put together wouldn't outweigh Pa Connolly (Kildare).
I'd like to put the late great John Timmons (midfield and full forward for the Dubs) on the opposite side of the scales to Pa Connolly and see which of them hit the ground.
vinney murphy
mark lynch
If Donagh is referring to Down legend Paddy Doherty, he certainly was not a heavy man in his playing days. Also Tipperary goalkeeper Paul Fitzgerald is a bigger man and IMO a far better goalkeeper than either Tierney or Durcan. As Hardy says John Timmons and Pa Connolly were huge men and top class footballers by any standard.
Jim Roynayne (sp) Dub, not many midfielders built like him nowadays. I presume Gerry Mc Carville has got a mention as well. Used to be a massive lad played for Cork (Christy Ryan maybe?) in the eighties started as a back ended up Cork's answer to Joe Mc Nally
Frank McGuigan had unreal skill and athletic ability for the build he had. No one mentioned on this thread could have touched him for all round natural ability, he could do it all.
Quote from: loughshore lad on July 27, 2007, 04:08:14 PM
Frank McGuigan had unreal skill and athletic ability for the build he had. No one mentioned on this thread could have touched him for all round natural ability, he could do it all.
no doubt top class but hardly a heavyweight :-\
A few more:
Pat (Red) Collier (Meath)
James McCartan (Down 1960s team)
Charlie Gallagher (Cavan)
Peter Whitnell (Down)
Mattie McGleenan! what a block of a man and i think he could fist the ball into the net from the 45 yard line!
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on July 27, 2007, 02:48:55 PM
I'd like to put the late great John Timmons (midfield and full forward for the Dubs) on the opposite side of the scales to Pa Connolly and see which of them hit the ground.
Good one HIB. But my money would be on Pa. He had definitely the biggest, shall we say waist measurement I ever saw on a football field. In fact the biggest I'd ever seen anywhere at the time - until the first time I went to America. Timmons was bigger boned though.
Charlie Gallagher - another great. Another heavyweight that's come to mind is John Nallen (Meath) - he formerly played for both Galway and Mayo. He was a bank official, I think - hence the nomadic career.
The Red was carrying plent of surplus OK and it was all pure Guinness. But it must have been some kind of hard fat, because he was as tough as a concrete bollard and as hard to put down. Low centre of gravity.
Great thread. Takes away any guilt about eating two desserts.
Another heavyweight that's come to mind is John Nallen (Meath) - he formerly played for both Galway and Mayo. He was a bank official, I think - hence the nomadic career.
He also played with Cavan. He is an uncle of James current Mayo player.
I thought I remembered that he played for Cavan too, after Meath, but I wasn't sure. Didn't know he was related to James. They certainly don't look alike!
Quote from: Hardy on July 28, 2007, 02:13:06 PM
I thought I remembered that he played for Cavan too, after Meath, but I wasn't sure. Didn't know he was related to James. They certainly don't look alike!
ye he is james uncle ,i met him at his brothers funeral a few weeks ago didn't look that big a man.He was supposed to be a handy footballer in his day.
Frank Mc Guigan was a very big man - he used his sizeable rear to shake men off - one shake of that rear and his marker would have been thrown off - seriously he was a big man but exceptionally strong -
What about Big John Carroll who played for Tipp today - 16 stone and rising -
Big Eamonn Quayle who played for us was a very strong and exceptionally talented man for being 6 foot 5 or so. He was asked to play for Tyrone for numerous occasions but was dedicated to the club.