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Title: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Hollow Man on July 23, 2007, 12:02:38 PM
Good craic about this on the AFR message board. Anyone got any good stories? Going by An Fear Rua, there are loads of them playing handball...

Don't know of any of them involved in football or hurling myself
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Hardy on July 23, 2007, 12:25:07 PM
Well done, everybody, for resisting the easy response!
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Kerry Mike on July 23, 2007, 12:33:53 PM
WJP from Mayo or was that just rumours at the time.
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: ludermor on July 23, 2007, 12:39:21 PM
WJP has done a lot of travelling since he retired but for various reasons
John Maughan was rumoured to be of that ilk
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on July 23, 2007, 12:41:21 PM
Quote from: ludermor on July 23, 2007, 12:39:21 PM
WJP has done a lot of travelling since he retired but for various reasons
John Maughan was rumoured to be of that ilk
Ithink there was a mongan from Ballinrobe who lined out for Mayo back in the 70/80's. Again i could be wrong.
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Hollow Man on July 23, 2007, 12:42:36 PM
Lol Hardy, I'm amazed someone hasn't jumped on this yet

Never heard the rumour about WJP, doubt very much that is true...

There was a team in Dublin now that you mention it, there was a chapter on it in Humphries book "Green Fields".

Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Tubberman on July 23, 2007, 12:51:22 PM
QuoteWJP from Mayo or was that just rumours at the time.

:o May God strike you down!  :D
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: thebandit on July 23, 2007, 01:01:27 PM
I could be wrong but I think that PJ Duke who was right half back on the polo grounds team was a traveller
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Wee Roddy on July 23, 2007, 01:07:42 PM
Do not bite the head off me hear folks but the rumour around our part of the world is that Ciaran McDonald is one! There are a few who played very successfully for Pomeroy over the years as well.
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Bensars on July 23, 2007, 01:12:03 PM
Quote from: thebandit on July 23, 2007, 01:01:27 PM
I could be wrong but I think that PJ Duke who was right half back on the polo grounds team was a traveller


I remember ole boys on about it.

Was it Gypsy Dune or Dunne who played for Cavan
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: The Bottom Brick on July 23, 2007, 01:13:02 PM
QuoteI could be wrong but I think that PJ Duke who was right half back on the polo grounds team was a traveller

Whoa whoa whoa!

Wind your neck in pal! Duke was no pikey, he was a Laragh man born and bred.

You could be thinking of Bill Doonan, he played in 47 and was a pikey. Jaysus, not Duke. He was a legend among settled men!

Next you'll be saying John Joe wa sone
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: thebandit on July 23, 2007, 01:21:03 PM
Quote from: The Bottom Brick on July 23, 2007, 01:13:02 PM
QuoteI could be wrong but I think that PJ Duke who was right half back on the polo grounds team was a traveller

Whoa whoa whoa!

Wind your neck in pal! Duke was no pikey, he was a Laragh man born and bred.

You could be thinking of Bill Doonan, he played in 47 and was a pikey. Jaysus, not Duke. He was a legend among settled men!

Next you'll be saying John Joe wa sone

Sorry Bottom Brick! I knew there was one alright!
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: thebandit on July 23, 2007, 01:22:38 PM
There's a few lads that play for Fergal O'Hanlon's (new club in Monaghan town) who are settled.

I think they have a good underage team with a few as well.
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Hollow Man on July 23, 2007, 01:27:09 PM
Didn't know that about O'Hanlons. i heard they were a real Ra outfit...

I've heard rumours about Lima Dunne and Davy fitz before, pure shite I'd say.

Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: mayo51 on July 23, 2007, 01:27:37 PM
jimmy maughan who played for mayo in the early eighties was from the travelling community.he also won an all ireland minor medal in 1978.he is no relation to john maughan.
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: The Subbie on July 23, 2007, 01:28:59 PM
Quote from: Wee Roddy on July 23, 2007, 01:07:42 PM
Do not bite the head off me hear folks but the rumour around our part of the world is that Ciaran McDonald is one! There are a few who played very successfully for Pomeroy over the years as well.

Total horse sh1te, about Mac i mean not commanches playing for pomeroy, used to work with the man , not too many nomads would be seen laying pipes @ 7 on a winters morning.
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Hollow Man on July 23, 2007, 01:31:00 PM
John Maughan definitely has the head for it, and the name...

What about Mark Ward, or Joe McDonagh ;)
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: longball on July 23, 2007, 01:35:29 PM
Ciaran McDonald is suppose to be one!
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: mayo51 on July 23, 2007, 01:51:16 PM
Quote from: longball on July 23, 2007, 01:35:29 PM
Ciaran McDonald is suppose to be one!
dont know where this rumour came from but it is totally false
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: dodo on July 23, 2007, 01:58:09 PM


McCarthyism is alive and well on the GAAboard.
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Leo on July 23, 2007, 02:14:51 PM
The tinks, is it your looking for?
Could apply to the whole Galway team at present - they're certainly all "knackered"!
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on July 23, 2007, 02:18:03 PM
Quote from: mayo51 on July 23, 2007, 01:27:37 PM
jimmy maughan who played for mayo in the early eighties was from the travelling community.he also won an all ireland minor medal in 1978.he is no relation to john maughan.

Thats the man
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: man in black on July 23, 2007, 02:27:45 PM
She sang of the halting site way out beyond Clondalkin
Where Ann Maughan froze to death between the dump and the railway line
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: baoithe on July 23, 2007, 02:42:46 PM
Quote from: longball on July 23, 2007, 01:35:29 PM
Ciaran McDonald is suppose to be one!

Complete and utter sh*te! Christ there are some muppets on this board.
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Hardy on July 23, 2007, 02:43:55 PM
Which brings me to an obvious question. Does anyone know any GAA players who are muppets?
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Norf Tyrone on July 23, 2007, 02:49:22 PM
Is the Gallaghers from Fermanagh, Cavan or Dublin (Delete and add as appropriate) not travellers?
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: marty88 on July 23, 2007, 03:16:39 PM
The majority of the Sligo team.

I'm only slagging!  ;)
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Shamrock Shore on July 23, 2007, 03:26:14 PM
Were't the Travellers GAA side in Dublin nicked named Naomh Pavee.

Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: FL/MAYO on July 23, 2007, 04:14:43 PM
These was a traveller from Claremorris that was sentenced to play football with the local GAA team a few years back. The judge called him  mallet head and later had to apolgise to him for the slur on his good name. I wonder did he ever show up and do his sentence?
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Fishead_Sam on July 23, 2007, 07:56:58 PM
Mick O'Dwyer, John Maughan, John O'Mahoney, Peter Forde, Paidai O'Se, Mickey Moran, Ger Loughnanne, Val Daly, Tommy Lyons are some famous GAA travellers   ;)
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: stew on July 23, 2007, 08:14:42 PM
Three or four years ago i mind one of the Connaught posters talking about a traveller who was a great player altogether, he stank to high heaven but could stick a ball over the bar from fifty yards out in his wellies (allegedly)..................if that was the case could we please have the said traveller report to the incoming County Manager in Armagh whereupon he can await further instruction. ;D
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Stay goalside of your man on July 23, 2007, 08:20:12 PM
John Leahy who used to play for Tip is one of them.
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: SuperSub on July 23, 2007, 08:39:35 PM
The whole Kerry football team if you ask me ;)
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Sandy Hill on July 23, 2007, 10:22:40 PM
The way they move about, they could switch counties every week!
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: we are blue... etc on July 23, 2007, 10:51:11 PM
Quote from: dodo on July 23, 2007, 01:58:09 PM


McCarthyism is alive and well on the GAAboard.
:):)
I saw Goody Proctor with the Devil
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Colonel Cool on July 24, 2007, 07:48:20 AM
I'd say most Travellers wouldn't have been welcome in your average GAA club in years gone bye. I not sure if things have changed much.
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: thebandit on July 24, 2007, 07:56:24 AM
Attitudes would have changed a bit in recent times
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: NAG on July 24, 2007, 09:20:23 AM
Travellers wouldnt be welcome in most GAA clubs today.

GAA clubs esp country clubs are all about community and common things that bond that community. Not about a bunch of tax dodgers who bring nothing to any community apart from bringing the community down with crime and litter.

If they want to form their own club in Dublin go for it, sure who could tell the difference!
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: his holiness nb on July 24, 2007, 09:35:04 AM
Ouch  >:(
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Handball Ace on July 24, 2007, 10:24:59 AM
QuoteAttitudes would have changed a bit in recent times

I doubt it very much
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: his holiness nb on July 24, 2007, 10:28:04 AM
I'd agree I dont think attitudes have changed.
I dont think the travelling community have done much to change people attitudes either, personally we had travellers in our village a few weeks back and the one night the were let into a pub there was murder.
Its not the politically correct thing to not like travellers, but jesus christ, nearly every time they arrive in a town there is trouble of some sort.
I'd like not to dislike them, but they need to meet us half way!
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: mannix on July 24, 2007, 10:38:21 AM
would you bate me?
I'll busht you sham.
I'll drop you like a spare tire if ya don't f off.
Will ya buy a gate?
Will ya but carpet?

Bad  news wherever they camp, shite in gardens and i mean human shite,rubbish, a burnt car, oil cans and a dead pony and 2 dead dogs left in one campsite when they had to move because a farmer sprayed slurry in a field near the camp.
If I done half the things they do  I would end up in jail, the gardai are terrified of them and rightly so, they have no manners and zero respect for themselves or anybody else.
Imagine the yoke that would shite in someones garden in broad daylight.
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: An Gaeilgoir on July 24, 2007, 10:41:07 AM
Quote from: mannix on July 24, 2007, 10:38:21 AM
would you bate me?
I'll busht you sham.
I'll drop you like a spare tire if ya don't f off.
Will ya buy a gate?
Will ya but carpet?

Bad  news wherever they camp, shite in gardens and i mean human shite,rubbish, a burnt car, oil cans and a dead pony and 2 dead dogs left in one campsite when they had to move because a farmer sprayed slurry in a field near the camp.
If I done half the things they do  I would end up in jail, the gardai are terrified of them and rightly so, they have no manners and zero respect for themselves or anybody else.
Imagine the yoke that would shite in someones garden in broad daylight.

We are getting off the point i think...(i agree btw,but stick it on non- gaa thread)
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Fishead_Sam on July 24, 2007, 12:18:36 PM
Have to say Im not really their biggest fans, but am I the only one that thinks that the travellers are getting to big of a slagging of late on the GAA board, end of the day they are people too, and Im sure many of them read the GAA board, as many of them are avid GAA followers.

Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: his holiness nb on July 24, 2007, 12:34:51 PM
In fairness, I only comment on them as trouble makers when I have personally witnessed these acts.
I dont think telling the truth should be seen as harsh.
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: mannix on July 24, 2007, 12:39:00 PM
nice girls, if a traveller was good enough i would forgive him any sins and have him play for the county.Played against an itinerant club in dublin one time and they had a few good players.
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: full back on July 24, 2007, 12:40:40 PM
I think you should edit your last post 5Times, Laoislad was fond of more than a few of them ;)
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Canalman on July 24, 2007, 07:35:26 PM
Travellers' team in Dublin was called Pavee Gaels which (I think) became St Christopher Gaels. They used to play in St Vincents CBS grounds in Glasnevin and were a junior team in the lower leagues and run by a Priest/Christian Brother.
Played them away some years ago wnen to my dismay our midfielder started boxing the head off one of their players.Baaaad move, so I thought but the rest of their team waded in to break it up. They seemed a sound bunch, certainly alot better behaved than some so called "settled" teams in the vicinity.
I think they folded some years ago.

You will always see Dublin flags flying from the  halting sites when Dublin are doing well in Championship.(cue alot of "witticisms" from our Anti Dub posters).
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Handball Ace on July 24, 2007, 08:48:54 PM
This isn't a dig but I remember reading in Tom Humphries book Green Fields that traveller teasm always wear either Offaly or meath colours, whatever the reason is for that...
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Datsun Donaghy on July 24, 2007, 11:48:11 PM
Quotewould you bate me?
I'll busht you sham.
I'll drop you like a spare tire if ya don't f off.
Will ya buy a gate?
Will ya but carpet?

Bad  news wherever they camp, shite in gardens and i mean human shite,rubbish, a burnt car, oil cans and a dead pony and 2 dead dogs left in one campsite when they had to move because a farmer sprayed slurry in a field near the camp.
If I done half the things they do  I would end up in jail, the gardai are terrified of them and rightly so, they have no manners and zero respect for themselves or anybody else.
Imagine the yoke that would shite in someones garden in broad daylight.

Is it not way past the time that this thread should've been dumped along with the racist comments ? - I'm surprised nobody has called for a Nazi style Ultimate Solution!

Are the only people in jail Travellers?
Do any cars get burnt out by people from the settled community?
Can animals only be killed / maimed by Travellers? ( Are any of the Tyrone county players included?)

Wake up and smell the coffee - there are wee shits in every community capable of any of the above and much worse - most of the Travelling Community are sound folk, with a culture which is similar but alittle different to our own - no doubt they have an element who give the rest a bad name but that probably makes them more like us than we want to admit!

This was always a disaster of a thread which has fcuk all to do with gaelic games!!!!!!!!





Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: the Deel Rover on July 25, 2007, 10:05:19 AM
Quote from: Wee Roddy on July 23, 2007, 01:07:42 PM
Do not bite the head off me hear folks but the rumour around our part of the world is that Ciaran McDonald is one! There are a few who played very successfully for Pomeroy over the years as well.


wtf are you on about you tool, where is your part of the world anyway? you would want to get your facts right before writing such shite? i know his family all my life and what you wrote is utter shite yet you feel you can just write want you want about a person you don't know get your facts right you gobshite ??? ???
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: mannix on July 25, 2007, 10:10:55 AM
Deel rover, he is only looking to get a response and you gave it.I know macs brother and have only ever good of his family.Mac himself is the height of gentleman both on the field and to fans and kids.
Did john maughan have a brother called ronan?
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: the Deel Rover on July 25, 2007, 10:18:17 AM
Quote from: mannix on July 25, 2007, 10:10:55 AM
Deel rover, he is only looking to get a response and you gave it.I know macs brother and have only ever good of his family.Mac himself is the height of gentleman both on the field and to fans and kids.
Did john maughan have a brother called ronan?

ye your right mannix i'll say no more,  ronan god rest him was john maughans 1st cousin ,he was a great person and a footballer footballer and would definately have played with the county seniors.Did you know Ronan?
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: laceer on July 25, 2007, 11:32:53 AM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on July 25, 2007, 10:05:19 AM
Quote from: Wee Roddy on July 23, 2007, 01:07:42 PM
Do not bite the head off me hear folks but the rumour around our part of the world is that Ciaran McDonald is one! There are a few who played very successfully for Pomeroy over the years as well.


wtf are you on about you tool, where is your part of the world anyway? you would want to get your facts right before writing such shite? i know his family all my life and what you wrote is utter shite yet you feel you can just write want you want about a person you don't know get your facts right you gobshite ??? ???

am from near roddy's part of the world and heard the same rumour myself about mcdonald.it doesn't mean i'm a tool.doesn't really matter a f**k anyway-love watching him play.pure natural..
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: the Deel Rover on July 25, 2007, 11:39:10 AM
Quote from: laceer on July 25, 2007, 11:32:53 AM
Quote from: the Deel Rover on July 25, 2007, 10:05:19 AM
Quote from: Wee Roddy on July 23, 2007, 01:07:42 PM
Do not bite the head off me hear folks but the rumour around our part of the world is that Ciaran McDonald is one! There are a few who played very successfully for Pomeroy over the years as well.


wtf are you on about you tool, where is your part of the world anyway? you would want to get your facts right before writing such shite? i know his family all my life and what you wrote is utter shite yet you feel you can just write want you want about a person you don't know get your facts right you gobshite ??? ???

am from near roddy's part of the world and heard the same rumour myself about mcdonald.it doesn't mean i'm a tool.doesn't really matter a f**k anyway-love watching him play.pure natural..


he is a tool for writing such shite
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: ludermor on July 25, 2007, 11:48:18 AM
DR ,
calm down man your nearly as big a fool for rising to it.
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Wee Roddy on July 25, 2007, 12:26:48 PM
Look I really am sorry if i offended anyone with that staement but it was meant as more of a question! I did ask that no one would bite my head off. I like you Laceer think he is a pure genius.
Once agai ni am sorry if i offended anyone. My post are never meant to do so.
Title: Re: Travellers and the GAA
Post by: Model Hammer on July 25, 2007, 02:30:21 PM
I had read this thread yesterday and was a bit alarmed that so much bollocks had been allowed to be uttered unchallenged. Thankfully some voices of reason entered the debate (!) since ....

To answer the question, when I was in Wexford there were some fantastic Traveller hurlers, all settled, as I'm sure most Travellers are these days. How else would they be able to play with a club regularly?? Some got as far as the Junior/Intermediate County Team, and I think I can recall one or two who made the Senior panel for the League at least.

For some reason some of these guys never made it the whole way. In my opinion there were two reasons:

1. If it's not too much of a generalisation, some tended to be less inclined to pass the ball, it was in their nature to do as much as they could themselves.

2. More significant I'm sure was the kind of bigotry that so many contributors to this thread have revealed. This was clearly present in the PTB of the GAA as much as the wider community.

I can think of a few lads that would certainly walk on to the current team!