Did anyone else not think it was disgraceful the way Spillane completely cut Tohill off when he tried to talk about Derry. i think derry would have to win an AI before they would be given any time. all spillane wanted to do was talk about "what now for mayo" personally i thought it was a disgrace and altho tohill asked him "am i not going to get a chance to talk about derry?" where spillane answred "there'll be plenty of time to talk about derry" i wouldnt have blamed tohill for getting up and walking out. what more do derry need to do to even get 2 minutes of talking time on the southern sunday game?
Spillane is just a prat, himself and that tool Lyons are like two prebuscent boys slagging each other off down the back of class, constantly trying to get digs in at each other on national television, cringeworthy.
To be fair to Pat even though he's chronic for interrupting the analysts I believe he said something like we'll be discussing the draw later on so we'll have time to talk about Derry then.
I don't know why he bothers asking questions though as he never lets anyone get a full answer out before he jumps in himself.
Louper - you would have seen that the Derry Mayo match had been dealt with on the Saturday Game already and had been shown highlights of after the Dublin match...
There is obviously not too much interest even in Derry when you only bring about 750 to Clones to play Armagh...
Spillane does it to Tohill every week, but he took it to a new level on Sunday. >:(
Tohill will be well fit for Spillane and as there's quite a few weeks left, I'd say Tohill will get him in the long grass !
At least you know what to expect from Spillane and in fairness he did do his best to give as much air time to Tohill as Lyons....
But Lyons... what an ill mannered prik!! He butted in every time Spillane put a question to Anthony, he didn't have the courtesy to wait his turn and answer the questions Spillane put to him. Tohill is well mannered, makes sense in his arguments and in gerneral carries himself well and comes across very modest. Lyons is a bum - an arragant little prik! Out with Lyons and in with an ex footballer; haven't seen much of Tony Davis, Paul Curran or Bernard Flynn this year - any of which would be better than Lyons.
They should get Paul Bealin on the panel.
There is obviously not too much interest even in Derry when you only bring about 750 to Clones to play Armagh...
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Because all supporters do not vote with their feet, does this mean Derry are not entitled to a mention by Tohill on the Sunday game? It was a big result after all! Highlights may have been shown on sat but it was not analysed.
And yes before it pops up, i was part of the 750 at clones or whatever it was, been to all the games this year and hope to get a few more.
If I was boss of RTE Tohill would be the host and Spillane wouldnt even get to carry the coffee in. Tohill is and has always been a gentleman on the show ,when all around him are in a race to be controversial Tohill is articulate and balanced.
Read Tom Humphries excellent book on Dublin V Kerry rivalry in the 70s. Us Nordies are not alone in our dislike for Pat Spillane.Apparently half the Kerry team he played with don't speak to him (on account of what he has said about them in books etc )over the years. The Bomber says that he wouldn't go as far to say that lads would leave theirs pints and exit a bar if Spillane came in (as they are too fond of the pints ;D) but there's an awful lot have no time for him
Look, it's completely obvious that Darragh Maloney should be hosting the Sunday Game. Only man for the job.
I think we should show Spillane and RTE that the Viewers rule
Spillane is trying to follow the lead of Dunphy and George Hook to a lesser extent and is Brolly now too in that they more controversial the are the more HYPE they make about themselves and so the more money they will make in the long run.
This may be true but it often comes at a price.
We should make Spillane's life hell by picketing outside RTE every Sunday night and have big Huge banners all around Croker from now on saying
SPILLANE TAKES IT UP THE .....
Or some humours little Limerick
Anyone got any suggestions.
Are we all gonna sit back and let Spillane dictate to RTE what wages he wants whilest the majority of Gaels can't stand the sight of the man.
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 17, 2007, 02:58:37 PM
I think we should show Spillane and RTE that the Viewers rule
Spillane is trying to follow the lead of Dunphy and George Hook to a lesser extent and is Brolly now too in that they more controversial the are the more HYPE they make about themselves and so the more money they will make in the long run.
but at least Brolly is intelligent enough to carry it off.
I agree- Darragh Moloney is the man for the job.
Although i hate the ****, im very glad he did that.
When people start talking about us we lose.
So, Laois to hammer Derry and paddy Bradley is awful.
Tyrones all ireland to lose.
Agree there Brolly can be a tool as well and courts controversy but brolly at least ahs a way with words and has some rare moments.
moloney all the way for host. best man in rte for gaa in that role
Des Cahill is a good presenter as well - he'd get my vote.
Quote from: DUBSFORSAM1 on July 17, 2007, 01:45:35 PM
Louper - you would have seen that the Derry Mayo match had been dealt with on the Saturday Game already and had been shown highlights of after the Dublin match...
There is obviously not too much interest even in Derry when you only bring about 750 to Clones to play Armagh...
dub i was at that armagh game and the mayo one and had to run straight back out the door to trainin so i did not see the saturday game. ys ure rite they did show detailed highlights but i still think it was downright bad mannered and arrogant of spillane to do that on live tv.
theres no point in tryin sly digs at me about the derry support, ive been to all the matches so i can be happy and content with my contribution. do u fancy dublin this year? 6-1 before the laois match would have been worth a nice wee wager.
Quote from: DUBSFORSAM1 on July 17, 2007, 01:45:35 PM
Louper - you would have seen that the Derry Mayo match had been dealt with on the Saturday Game already and had been shown highlights of after the Dublin match...
There is obviously not too much interest even in Derry when you only bring about 750 to Clones to play Armagh...
I struggle to see the relevance of your comments above
if spillane was able to discuss mayo, surely Derry (esp having won the game) would have been allowed more than just a mention?
but what is your point regarding the amount of people who go watch Derry in action and any corrolation with the topics pat spillane allows/denies in the sunday game discussions
please clarify this , as unlike yourself I am obv missing the logic.... ::)
Quote from: rrhf on July 17, 2007, 02:32:44 PM
If I was boss of RTE Tohill would be the host and Spillane wouldnt even get to carry the coffee in. Tohill is and has always been a gentleman on the show ,when all around him are in a race to be controversial Tohill is articulate and balanced.
Ah come on, that would show would be as bland as rice cakes!
Spillane isnt the worst lads, he's entertaining anyway ' thats a lovely suit you've got on Pete Finnerty', 'you've a lot of hair gel on tonight Bernard Flynn'. His presentation isnt perfect but he's improved a lot, think he's doing a very good job these days. Cant see any of the present analysts doing a better job as presenter- Anthony Daly perhaps?
Quote from: Louper on July 17, 2007, 01:33:41 PM
Did anyone else not think it was disgraceful the way Spillane completely cut Tohill off when he tried to talk about Derry. i think derry would have to win an AI before they would be given any time. all spillane wanted to do was talk about "what now for mayo" personally i thought it was a disgrace and altho tohill asked him "am i not going to get a chance to talk about derry?" where spillane answred "there'll be plenty of time to talk about derry" i wouldnt have blamed tohill for getting up and walking out. what more do derry need to do to even get 2 minutes of talking time on the southern sunday game?
I don't think he was doing it to be rude to Tohill, he just loves having a go @ Mayo, so Derry beating us must have been a wet-dream for him, Mayo abuse time Yea.
If Derry beating Mayo was a wet dream what was Kerry annihilating them in 04 and 06 ? ;D
Quote from: Jinxy on July 17, 2007, 02:49:01 PM
Look, it's completely obvious that Darragh Maloney should be hosting the Sunday Game. Only man for the job.
You're stuck with him until 2011 at least. Spillane has just signed a new three-year deal as host of the Sunday Game.
...at least that will keep him away from the Kerry managers job until 2011 at least.
Quote from: Kerry Mike on July 17, 2007, 04:29:01 PM
...at least that will keep him away from the Kerry managers job until 2011 at least.
:D
Quote from: Louper on July 17, 2007, 04:32:05 PM
Quote from: Kerry Mike on July 17, 2007, 04:29:01 PM
...at least that will keep him away from the Kerry managers job until 2011 at least.
:D
I wonder will he play Puke Football as Kerry Manager :)
Quote from: Louper on July 17, 2007, 03:44:26 PM
Quote from: DUBSFORSAM1 on July 17, 2007, 01:45:35 PM
Louper - you would have seen that the Derry Mayo match had been dealt with on the Saturday Game already and had been shown highlights of after the Dublin match...
There is obviously not too much interest even in Derry when you only bring about 750 to Clones to play Armagh...
dub i was at that armagh game and the mayo one and had to run straight back out the door to trainin so i did not see the saturday game. ys ure rite they did show detailed highlights but i still think it was downright bad mannered and arrogant of spillane to do that on live tv.
theres no point in tryin sly digs at me about the derry support, ive been to all the matches so i can be happy and content with my contribution. do u fancy dublin this year? 6-1 before the laois match would have been worth a nice wee wager.
Louper - i was at the Antrim and Armagh games myself - missed Monaghan due to Dublin match and Mayo due to playing in Limerick at the weekend....off to Breffni next Sat for the match...a few nice pints in Cavan town are called for I think...
6-1 would have been good odds...still reckon we are third favourites based on we haven't won it in a long time and Kerry/Tyrone have but still seen enough this year in both teams to see they are beatable...in fact I would go so far as to say if Darragh O'Se gets injured or Ciaran Gormley does for Tyrone I would bet on us to beat either then...beating both as we are likely to have to do is going to be tough though....though would like to see Cork play Tyrone...
Lynchboy - There was supposed to be a smiley after the comment....My point was that in terms of a discussion point that Mayo being knocked out early after making the final last year and the effect it would have on them would be a more popular discussion point than talking about Derry again after Saturdays game...
Quote from: DUBSFORSAM1 on July 17, 2007, 05:06:39 PM
Lynchboy - There was supposed to be a smiley after the comment....My point was that in terms of a discussion point that Mayo being knocked out early after making the final last year and the effect it would have on them would be a more popular discussion point than talking about Derry again after Saturdays game...
while I'd agree that there was and will be more opportunity to discuss Derry for at least one more game,
I think smiley or no smiley it was a bit sad and a bit of a sly dig to incorporate a mention of Derry's rubbish number of supporters.
There was no need for it, and however embarrassing the lack of attendees we may have (quality more than quantity I like to think) - there was no justification or connection in bringing this into the discussion.
It bore no relevance in the contect of the point and even as a 'joke' was out of place.
I know you go to Derry games as you have the good fortune to be partnered up to a Derry lady - but even then I would not go along with your opinion and perception of games (as much as I know and expect you dont agree with mine).
But the forgiving folk that we are, we wont hold this against you ...
Not if we burn him out of RTE first and drag his name thru the mud
I think if you make yer bed in the contoversial media field then you must be prepared to take the flak
And we are all making it far too easy for him
Remember in 2005 he wouldnt come down for his day out with leading Kerrymen or something when Tyrone were in the Final
Fair enough - if I offended anyone I apologise!!
You have to admit though Lynchboy since they started playing more direct forward orientated football against Armagh/Mayo they have looked a better team....
Quote from: DUBSFORSAM1 on July 17, 2007, 05:28:41 PM
Fair enough - if I offended anyone I apologise!!
You have to admit though Lynchboy since they started playing more direct forward orientated football against Armagh/Mayo they have looked a better team....
fully agree..
if you recall
its what I have been advocating for them to do in all my time on the board, and before that since 1992...
ffs, dont ye have the BBC, which takes a completely Ulster focus on the championship and ye are complaining about Pat Spillane being rude to poor wee Anthony !!
Dubforsam - hand on heart I dont think it would matter one little bit to Tyrones season if Ciaran Gormley got injured.
Go easy on Pat lads. RTE had to chose someone from the great Kerry team from 75-86. Spillane was the only one who could string a few words together in an audible fashion. Ever hear a Kerry man or woman talk? I used to play in a band with a Kerry man. When we toured England, the locals thought he was from Poland or Fiji.
O'neill :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on July 17, 2007, 07:33:39 PM
ffs, dont ye have the BBC, which takes a completely Ulster focus on the championship and ye are complaining about Pat Spillane being rude to poor wee Anthony !!
u must be jokin! too much hard work as u hav to mute the tv and commentate ureself to avoid cringe-worthy commentary by the bbc contingent!
Quote from: Fuzzman on July 17, 2007, 02:58:37 PM
I think we should show Spillane and RTE that the Viewers rule
Spillane is trying to follow the lead of Dunphy and George Hook to a lesser extent and is Brolly now too in that they more controversial the are the more HYPE they make about themselves and so the more money they will make in the long run.
This may be true but it often comes at a price.
We should make Spillane's life hell by picketing outside RTE every Sunday night and have big Huge banners all around Croker from now on saying
SPILLANE TAKES IT UP THE .....
Or some humours little Limerick
What a saddo you are Fuzzman . other people are having a debate and you share your sicko fantasies with us
Anyone got any suggestions.
Are we all gonna sit back and let Spillane dictate to RTE what wages he wants whilest the majority of Gaels can't stand the sight of the man.
QuoteGo easy on Pat lads. RTE had to chose someone from the great Kerry team from 75-86. Spillane was the only one who could string a few words together in an audible fashion. Ever hear a Kerry man or woman talk? I used to play in a band with a Kerry man. When we toured England, the locals thought he was from Poland or Fiji.
A band eh ? What were ye called
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on July 18, 2007, 12:41:50 AM
QuoteGo easy on Pat lads. RTE had to chose someone from the great Kerry team from 75-86. Spillane was the only one who could string a few words together in an audible fashion. Ever hear a Kerry man or woman talk? I used to play in a band with a Kerry man. When we toured England, the locals thought he was from Poland or Fiji.
A band eh ? What were ye called
Apparently they were called 'the bogtrotters'. Their heroes were the globetrotters but they knew they were shite hence the name Bogtrotters.
Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on July 17, 2007, 07:45:47 PM
Dubforsam - hand on heart I dont think it would matter one little bit to Tyrones season if Ciaran Gormley got injured.
Ciaran gormley? ???
Think you mean Connor Gormley :D
Quote from: Mike Sheehy on July 18, 2007, 12:41:50 AM
A band eh ? What were ye called
The Birmingham Irish Pipes and Drums. Kerry man on the big drum. Baste of a man. The balax wanted to put a wheel onto the bottom of the drum so it'd save a bit of back-power. You can take them outta Kerry......
Shane did you wear a kilt in that band as well and was it the same one you wore during your membership of Derrytresk Turfcutters and spudpickers emerald isle flute band? ;D
That was the point I was making Loup Bandit if you read back.
yeah i know, i was merely making a joke about! hence the :D at the end....
Gettting back to serious matters - who is making the decisions regarding the Sunday Game? Surely any one with half a brain wouldnt have Spillane as a presenter. He's just ok on the show at all but is a terrible presenter. Was it the same person who decided to get rid of the theme tune which everyone related to the Sunday Game as soon as they heard it. If I heard the current theme tune on the radio I dont even think Id catch on it was the Sunday Game's one. Dubsforsam - I really think this is Dublins year if they can keep Barry Cullen fit.
Dont like to constantly criticse RTE but I think they have made 2 bad calls in relation to the qualifiers. Firstly theyre only showing the Meath Galway game on Saturday. The camera's are in the ground and it would have been nice for the double header to be on live. Maybe the GAA were afraid it would effect the attendance. The second one is the following Saturday theyre showing Derry Laois. I would have thought it would have been obvious to show Donegal Monaghan which looks like the better game on paper. It would also be guarenteed a big crowd even with TV coverage.
Quote from: hardstation on July 18, 2007, 03:06:51 PM
Maybe if Tohill could speak English, he would get more time to give his views. Someone should tell him that it is 'I saw' and 'I have seen'. He constantly gets it wrong and bugs the life out of me.
Tohill sounds like he has graduated from 'Finishing school' when compared to some of the rest of his family (complete knuckle draggers)
Tohill would give Spillane a good kicking. Far bigger.
No i think the most important players for the Dubs to keep fit if they are gonna win Sam are defo big Charles Whelan and Alex Brogan
I'm watching the Aussie rules on Setanta at the moment and I always watch the American Football during the winter, the contrast with their commentators and ours is truly striking. I always get the impression that the commentators of those sports are men who are commenting on their sporting passion, not simply doing a job. Their guys give me the impression that if they were sitting at home flicking through the TV channels and they came across a game they would drop everything else and watch it, Ger Canning/Marty Morrissey sound like guys that would rather be anywhere else but at the game. When you watch a bad US or Aussie football game the commentators generally give you interesting nuggets of info. or some such which helps retain your interest, the RTE lads just moan ad nausea about how poor the game is. As for accuracy of information, don't get me started, Marty Morrissey got the players names wrong, the reason that frees were given etc. repeatedly yesterday, he almost ruined a good game for me. Daragh Moloney is the only fella worth his salt.
RTE switched to a double-header yesterday so that they could show the hurling QFs next Saturday. They will not be showing either Laois/Derry or Donegal/Monaghan.
I have found that irish commentators are not neutral in their views. Marty Morrisey will give comments like "we are nearly home now" at the end of a match, where the underdog is winning!