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Title: 1,500 Civil Servants face sack in the North
Post by: Colonel Cool on July 06, 2007, 08:13:55 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6274740.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6274740.stm)

She sounds more like a trade union shop steward than a Minister. There are far too many civil servants in the north anyway. I'm sure 1,500 wouldn't be missed. The sickness levels in Margaret Ritchies Department are a disgrace. If she sorted that out she wouldn't need so many staff.
Title: Re: 1,500 Civil Servants face sack in the North
Post by: An Fear Rua on July 06, 2007, 09:20:13 AM
I read somewhere this week that 63% of people in the 6 are employed by the civil service!!!! :o
Title: Re: 1,500 Civil Servants face sack in the North
Post by: Balboa on July 06, 2007, 09:26:10 AM
The perception about civil service sick levels dont apply as much anymore, the figures that were released a few weeks ago were misleading, they included people on long term sick so their sick leave was distorting everyone elses figures. The civil service have clamped down on sick levels in a big way in the last few years. The real culprits when it comes to sick leave are the council workers in Northern Ireland.
Title: Re: 1,500 Civil Servants face sack in the North
Post by: Long time dead on July 06, 2007, 09:28:55 AM
Quote from: An Fear Rua on July 06, 2007, 09:20:13 AM
I read somewhere this week that 63% of people in the 6 are employed by the civil service!!!! :o

And 0.5% actually work.
Title: Re: 1,500 Civil Servants face sack in the North
Post by: Donagh on July 06, 2007, 09:30:13 AM
Well I know quite a few 'civil servants' and they all treat sick periods as part of their holiday entitlements.
Title: Re: 1,500 Civil Servants face sack in the North
Post by: Balboa on July 06, 2007, 09:33:12 AM
Quote from: Donagh on July 06, 2007, 09:30:13 AM
Well I know quite a few 'civil servants' and they all treat sick periods as part of their holiday entitlements.

And so they should  ;)
Title: Re: 1,500 Civil Servants face sack in the North
Post by: Long time dead on July 06, 2007, 09:33:29 AM
Quote from: Donagh on July 06, 2007, 09:30:13 AM
Well I know quite a few 'civil servants' and they all treat sick periods as part of their holiday entitlements.

Ditto - "I'm off this week - have sick leave to use" - wtf lazy bastards.
Title: Re: 1,500 Civil Servants face sack in the North
Post by: Balboa on July 06, 2007, 09:40:14 AM
Quote from: Long time dead on July 06, 2007, 09:33:29 AM
Quote from: Donagh on July 06, 2007, 09:30:13 AM
Well I know quite a few 'civil servants' and they all treat sick periods as part of their holiday entitlements.

Ditto - "I'm off this week - have sick leave to use" - wtf lazy bastards.

Well you get an "allocation" so it would be rude not to use it, as long as you dont rip the arse out of it.....
Title: Re: 1,500 Civil Servants face sack in the North
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on July 06, 2007, 09:40:59 AM
I can understand sickness due to work-related stress though - there's a lot of anally-retentive so-called 'managers' in the civ / councils that make work hell.

Title: Re: 1,500 Civil Servants face sack in the North
Post by: Orior on July 06, 2007, 11:59:34 AM
I once tried that thing they call "work".

Didnt like it at all, so stayed clear of it ever since.
Title: Re: 1,500 Civil Servants face sack in the North
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 08, 2007, 11:39:00 AM
Quote from: Long time dead on July 06, 2007, 09:33:29 AM
Quote from: Donagh on July 06, 2007, 09:30:13 AM
Well I know quite a few 'civil servants' and they all treat sick periods as part of their holiday entitlements.

Ditto - "I'm off this week - have sick leave to use" - wtf lazy bastards.
Why the hell not, I'd do it to, so would you!
Title: Re: 1,500 Civil Servants face sack in the North
Post by: Square Ball on July 08, 2007, 12:45:43 PM
Quote from: 5iveTimes on July 08, 2007, 11:52:24 AM
I think the 63% figure may be a bit high. In a population of 1.5 million and say roughly 750000 are in employment (the other half would be made up of school children, the elderly and the unemployable), that would leave 472500 in the Civil service. Now my starting figures are just a guesstimate, but I think it shows that the fugure would be a lot less than 63%.
I would actually welcome the loss of any jobs in the Civil Service. Far too many people are employed by the Government in what is basically an excercise to keep the unemployment figures down. Let the North stand on its own two feet, if it cant, then who really cares.

Me for a start!!!!
Title: Re: 1,500 Civil Servants face sack in the North
Post by: Square Ball on July 08, 2007, 01:12:46 PM
Yes, there are changes to be made within the NICS, get rid of all the skivers, people on long term sick with feck all wrong with them, in the private industry they would have all beed sacked ages ago.

Title: Re: 1,500 Civil Servants face sack in the North
Post by: Square Ball on July 09, 2007, 07:19:37 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on July 09, 2007, 07:08:53 PM
Quote from: An Fear Rua on July 06, 2007, 09:20:13 AM
I read somewhere this week that 63% of people in the 6 are employed by the civil service!!!! :o
That's the case in South Belfast, but across the north its around the 30% mark. Outside of Belfast & Derry, it seems to be around 20-25%.

and 78% of stats are made up  ;)
Title: Re: 1,500 Civil Servants face sack in the North
Post by: ExiledGael on July 10, 2007, 09:45:25 PM
1500 eh, thats nearly the amount of members on the board now, maybe they've caught on to the dossing and GAA boarding going on during government time!
Title: Re: 1,500 Civil Servants face sack in the North
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on September 19, 2007, 08:19:31 AM
On the news last night was that eircom have been awarded the contract to upgrade the north's civil service telephone network, over rivals BT and ntl.

It'll create 20 new jobs (wow) and is aimed to make the civ more efficient (err).

It was also marketed by the NICS spokesman as further strives towards all-Ireland solutions to common issues.
Title: Re: 1,500 Civil Servants face sack in the North
Post by: gerry on September 19, 2007, 10:41:32 AM
Quote1500 eh, thats nearly the amount of members on the board now, maybe they've caught on to the dossing and GAA boarding going on during government time!

sure with the amount of posts on here, sure its a full time job for them.

should try working in retail, late shifts, bank holidays, sundays
Title: Re: 1,500 Civil Servants face sack in the North
Post by: Orior on September 19, 2007, 01:47:58 PM
Quote from: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on September 19, 2007, 08:19:31 AM
On the news last night was that eircom have been awarded the contract to upgrade the north's civil service telephone network, over rivals BT and ntl.

It'll create 20 new jobs (wow) and is aimed to make the civ more efficient (err).

It was also marketed by the NICS spokesman as further strives towards all-Ireland solutions to common issues.

I'd say those are 20 new Eircom jobs, not 20 new jobs. Eircom have to do it with less than BT. The BT engineers would probably jump ship/Tupe to Eircom. Wonder will this mean lots of freebies from Eircom on display up around Stormont? I'm thinking of those green shirts with the Eircom logo on front.