Hard to know what way Armagh will approach this game, considering they have already topped the group. I suspect that there wont be as many changes as there could be. A few players who maybe need some extra minutes will get them here... I'm thinking Grimley, Oisin O'Neill (if fit), McElroy and McCormack. I'd be a great believer in momentum. I dont think Armagh will take the foot off the pedal at all.
Galway will have some fire in them for this one. They obviously have the talent in that forward line to cause Armagh serious problems. Armagh will have to be tighter than they were at times v Dublin.
Dont think they'll go as deep in the panel as some are expecting, too long a lay off and you don't want a starting 15 shaking rust off come knock out football
Armagh will want to win this one. They've a chance to knock out one of the main teams who can stop them from retaining Sam. They'll go full strength.
While I wouldn't back Galway with bad money, I've a feeling they'll qualify due to the Dubs doing them a favour. Joyce needs to be a bit bolder in his team selection, (unlikely), drop Conroy if necessary and introduce more pace and directness into the middle eight. John Daly hasn't been a starter for a while now, I think mgmt. feel he doesn't mark tight enough under the new rules. A bit of a redundant reason as a lot of them in recent matches fall into this category. Jack Glynn's (and McGrath's to an extent) form hasn't been so good this season and his place may be vulnerable.
Quote from: mouview on June 11, 2025, 10:30:49 AMWhile I wouldn't back Galway with bad money, I've a feeling they'll qualify due to the Dubs doing them a favour. Joyce needs to be a bit bolder in his team selection, (unlikely), drop Conroy if necessary and introduce more pace and directness into the middle eight. John Daly hasn't been a starter for a while now, I think mgmt. feel he doesn't mark tight enough under the new rules. A bit of a redundant reason as a lot of them in recent matches fall into this category. Jack Glynn's (and McGrath's to an extent) form hasn't been so good this season and his place may be vulnerable.
I agree about Dublin. There is a scenario where they can be knocked out so they have to go for it
Quote from: Cortoon on June 11, 2025, 10:26:40 AMArmagh will want to win this one. They've a chance to knock out one of the main teams who can stop them from retaining Sam. They'll go full strength.
While I think Armagh will go strong for this one for momentum reasons, I don't think this will be a factor why. The next time Galway and Armagh can realistically meet after Saturday is the All Ireland final. I think if Galway were the opponents at that point, Armagh would be ok with that, given that the alternatives are All Ireland favorites Kerry or Donegal who've pipped them twice. I think even Dublin with their records in finals would probably be less preferable. Not to say Galway are worse than either of the latter two but given all that I can't see how knocking Galway out will be a factor. You knock Galway out and you leave a dangerous Derry or Dublin in also
I'd play Jemar, and McConville and tell them both to run at Galway.
Quote from: Manning18 on June 11, 2025, 10:57:35 PMQuote from: Cortoon on June 11, 2025, 10:26:40 AMArmagh will want to win this one. They've a chance to knock out one of the main teams who can stop them from retaining Sam. They'll go full strength.
While I think Armagh will go strong for this one for momentum reasons, I don't think this will be a factor why. The next time Galway and Armagh can realistically meet after Saturday is the All Ireland final. I think if Galway were the opponents at that point, Armagh would be ok with that, given that the alternatives are All Ireland favorites Kerry or Donegal who've pipped them twice. I think even Dublin with their records in finals would probably be less preferable. Not to say Galway are worse than either of the latter two but given all that I can't see how knocking Galway out will be a factor. You knock Galway out and you leave a dangerous Derry or Dublin in also
I don't think that Derry or 2025 Dublin have the maximum performance potential of Galway.
Quote from: Manning18 on June 11, 2025, 10:57:35 PMQuote from: Cortoon on June 11, 2025, 10:26:40 AMArmagh will want to win this one. They've a chance to knock out one of the main teams who can stop them from retaining Sam. They'll go full strength.
While I think Armagh will go strong for this one for momentum reasons, I don't think this will be a factor why. The next time Galway and Armagh can realistically meet after Saturday is the All Ireland final. I think if Galway were the opponents at that point, Armagh would be ok with that, given that the alternatives are All Ireland favorites Kerry or Donegal who've pipped them twice. I think even Dublin with their records in finals would probably be less preferable. Not to say Galway are worse than either of the latter two but given all that I can't see how knocking Galway out will be a factor. You knock Galway out and you leave a dangerous Derry or Dublin in also
Yes, as I've said a few times already myself I'd prefer Galway to stay in the competition and hopefully do some dirty work for us - ideally Donegal/Tyrone and then Kerry.
No idea what to expect from Armagh this weekend.
The reason I think Armagh will go very strong is purely the fact that if they don't then it will have been 4 weeks since some first choice lads have played.
They have next weekend off so will go strong.
As always with us - you can never tell which Galway is going to turn up on any given day.
Capable of beating anyone - just as capable of losing to anyone. It's hard to figure out our mentality.
I think Armagh will win, there is no pressure on them, a few lads coming in will be looking to nail down a 1st 15 place. There is definitely a bit of history between the 2 teams and I'd say Geezer senses an opportunity to put them out.
Galway, would be a bigger threat to Armaghs chances of retaining the AI, than either Derry or Dublin.
Quote from: ardtole on June 12, 2025, 11:10:34 AMI think Armagh will win, there is no pressure on them, a few lads coming in will be looking to nail down a 1st 15 place. There is definitely a bit of history between the 2 teams and I'd say Geezer senses an opportunity to put them out.
Galway, would be a bigger threat to Armaghs chances of retaining the AI, than either Derry or Dublin.
An Armagh win won't necessarily put Galway out though.
If Armagh and Dublin won by the same margin , Derry would go out
So Armagh could go hell for leather to try to put Galway out , and all for nothing
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 12, 2025, 11:21:48 AMQuote from: ardtole on June 12, 2025, 11:10:34 AMI think Armagh will win, there is no pressure on them, a few lads coming in will be looking to nail down a 1st 15 place. There is definitely a bit of history between the 2 teams and I'd say Geezer senses an opportunity to put them out.
Galway, would be a bigger threat to Armaghs chances of retaining the AI, than either Derry or Dublin.
An Armagh win won't necessarily put Galway out though.
If Armagh and Dublin won by the same margin , Derry would go out
So Armagh could go hell for leather to try to put Galway out , and all for nothing
I don't think McGeeney knows any other way, it would be a big statement to be 3/3 from a group of death.
Quote from: ardtole on June 12, 2025, 11:42:25 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on June 12, 2025, 11:21:48 AMQuote from: ardtole on June 12, 2025, 11:10:34 AMI think Armagh will win, there is no pressure on them, a few lads coming in will be looking to nail down a 1st 15 place. There is definitely a bit of history between the 2 teams and I'd say Geezer senses an opportunity to put them out.
Galway, would be a bigger threat to Armaghs chances of retaining the AI, than either Derry or Dublin.
An Armagh win won't necessarily put Galway out though.
If Armagh and Dublin won by the same margin , Derry would go out
So Armagh could go hell for leather to try to put Galway out , and all for nothing
I don't think McGeeney knows any other way, it would be a big statement to be 3/3 from a group of death.
Statements are to be made in the knock out stages. A "group of Death" that Armagh finished top of with a game to spare and Galway could reach the knock out stage with just one point should Dublin win and they lose this weekend.
Geezer attention will be turned to All Ireland Quarter final. Should Galway not win this game they'll be more questions than answers about them going into preliminary quarter final the following weekend.
Quote from: Cortoon on June 11, 2025, 10:26:40 AMArmagh will want to win this one. They've a chance to knock out one of the main teams who can stop them from retaining Sam. They'll go full strength.
Armagh can only knock out Galway if Derry beat or draw with Dublin.
Quote from: seafoid on June 12, 2025, 06:02:12 PMQuote from: Cortoon on June 11, 2025, 10:26:40 AMArmagh will want to win this one. They've a chance to knock out one of the main teams who can stop them from retaining Sam. They'll go full strength.
Armagh can only knock out Galway if Derry beat or draw with Dublin.
Not true. Score difference comes into play if both Armagh and Dublin win.
Galway are only 3 points ahead of Derry as it stands so Armagh could knock us out even if Derry lose.
Quote from: galwayman on June 12, 2025, 06:50:05 PMQuote from: seafoid on June 12, 2025, 06:02:12 PMQuote from: Cortoon on June 11, 2025, 10:26:40 AMArmagh will want to win this one. They've a chance to knock out one of the main teams who can stop them from retaining Sam. They'll go full strength.
Armagh can only knock out Galway if Derry beat or draw with Dublin.
Not true. Score difference comes into play if both Armagh and Dublin win.
Galway are only 3 points ahead of Derry as it stands so Armagh could knock us out even if Derry lose.
I'd expect if we do win it would be a tight enough game given the last few games between us but yeah still possible if we won heavily.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 12, 2025, 07:05:35 PMQuote from: galwayman on June 12, 2025, 06:50:05 PMQuote from: seafoid on June 12, 2025, 06:02:12 PMQuote from: Cortoon on June 11, 2025, 10:26:40 AMArmagh will want to win this one. They've a chance to knock out one of the main teams who can stop them from retaining Sam. They'll go full strength.
Armagh can only knock out Galway if Derry beat or draw with Dublin.
Not true. Score difference comes into play if both Armagh and Dublin win.
Galway are only 3 points ahead of Derry as it stands so Armagh could knock us out even if Derry lose.
I'd expect if we do win it would be a tight enough game given the last few games between us but yeah still possible if we won heavily.
In circumstances where Galway really need a win and Armagh do not need a win then it is not probable that Armagh will beat Galway by a significant margin. If they do, then that would be an end for Galway.
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Strong team named as expected, only really Grugan and Crealey missing. Aaron McKay named on the bench for the first time this year I think, delighted for the lad.
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Quote from: seafoid on June 12, 2025, 06:02:12 PMQuote from: Cortoon on June 11, 2025, 10:26:40 AMArmagh will want to win this one. They've a chance to knock out one of the main teams who can stop them from retaining Sam. They'll go full strength.
Armagh can only knock out Galway if Derry beat or draw with Dublin.
No, if Dublin win and Armagh win then Derry and Galway will both have one point and score difference will come into play. As Dublin beat Galway by only one point, and Armagh beat Derry by 4 points then you'd be talking about an improbable Armagh victory by 5 or more points.
Armagh missing arguably their two most important players it seems. Expect a close game now but think Galway will edge it. Like to see McElroy and McKay get at least a half each. Think they could both have big roles to play if they can get match fit for the remainder of the season.
Quote from: David McKeown on June 12, 2025, 11:24:49 PMArmagh missing arguably their two most important players it seems. Expect a close game now but think Galway will edge it. Like to see McElroy and McKay get at least a half each. Think they could both have big roles to play if they can get match fit for the remainder of the season.
McKay needs to get back into that defence asap. I don't know where McElroy fits in at the minute, both wing backs and wing forwards are totally undroppable the way they are playing.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 13, 2025, 07:39:42 AMQuote from: David McKeown on June 12, 2025, 11:24:49 PMArmagh missing arguably their two most important players it seems. Expect a close game now but think Galway will edge it. Like to see McElroy and McKay get at least a half each. Think they could both have big roles to play if they can get match fit for the remainder of the season.
McKay needs to get back into that defence asap. I don't know where McElroy fits in at the minute, both wing backs and wing forwards are totally undroppable the way they are playing.
Would say we might see 2/3 changes on the Armagh team before
Would rest mc Cambridge , murnin and mc quillan
Putting in mc Kay , mc Elroy and mcpartland , Mackin or Callum o Neill
Quote from: naka on June 13, 2025, 08:35:48 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 13, 2025, 07:39:42 AMQuote from: David McKeown on June 12, 2025, 11:24:49 PMArmagh missing arguably their two most important players it seems. Expect a close game now but think Galway will edge it. Like to see McElroy and McKay get at least a half each. Think they could both have big roles to play if they can get match fit for the remainder of the season.
McKay needs to get back into that defence asap. I don't know where McElroy fits in at the minute, both wing backs and wing forwards are totally undroppable the way they are playing.
Would say we might see 2/3 changes on the Armagh team before
Would rest mc Cambridge , murnin and mc quillan
Putting in mc Kay , mc Elroy and mcpartland , Mackin or Callum o Neill
Yeah if McKay next or near fit then start him, worst case if he was only to last 10 mins then at least you're only using 1 sub. Vital we avoid red cards/injuries in this game.
Armagh barely resting anyone. Grimley and Soupy in for Crealey and Grugan.
Armagh: Ethan Rafferty; Paddy Burns, Barry McCambridge, Peter McGrane, Ross McQuillan, Tiernan Kelly, Jarly Óg Burns; Jason Duffy, Niall Grimley; Darragh McMullen, Rian O'Neill, Oisin Conaty; Stefan Campbell, Andrew Murnin, Conor Turbitt.
Quote from: gallsman on June 13, 2025, 12:16:57 PMArmagh barely resting anyone. Grimley and Soupy in for Crealey and Grugan.
Armagh: Ethan Rafferty; Paddy Burns, Barry McCambridge, Peter McGrane, Ross McQuillan, Tiernan Kelly, Jarly Óg Burns; Jason Duffy, Niall Grimley; Darragh McMullen, Rian O'Neill, Oisin Conaty; Stefan Campbell, Andrew Murnin, Conor Turbitt.
There'll be changes before throw in. But probably not many.
I'd be surprised. Two weeks off already and another two to come. He'll make changes earlier but I'd be surprised if there's anything really significant before throw in.
Quote from: gallsman on June 13, 2025, 12:35:05 PMI'd be surprised. Two weeks off already and another two to come. He'll make changes earlier but I'd be surprised if there's anything really significant before throw in.
Is a 4 week break a disadvantage. How many weeks break did provincial champions have in previous system?
I understand playing a fully new team and getting a pasting could ruin momentum alright.
Armagh will be very interested in what happens in the Tyrone Donegal Mayo Cavan group I would say.
Armagh will probably be hoping Tyrone top the group and Mayo get eliminated.
That would leave Armagh not capable of drawing Tyrone, Donegal, Dublin, Galway or Derry in the quarter final
In turn that would increase the chances of the other group winners to draw one of those teams in the quarterfinals.
Quote from: David McKeown on June 13, 2025, 11:59:52 PMArmagh will be very interested in what happens in the Tyrone Donegal Mayo Cavan group I would say.
Armagh will probably be hoping Tyrone top the group and Mayo get eliminated.
That would leave Armagh not capable of drawing Tyrone, Donegal, Dublin, Galway or Derry in the quarter final
In turn that would increase the chances of the other group winners to draw one of those teams in the quarterfinals.
Unless they can see the future,those games you're talking about are the following day ;D
Ideal for armagh is for Tyrone to top.
Quote from: 5times5times on June 14, 2025, 12:24:00 PMQuote from: David McKeown on June 13, 2025, 11:59:52 PMArmagh will be very interested in what happens in the Tyrone Donegal Mayo Cavan group I would say.
Armagh will probably be hoping Tyrone top the group and Mayo get eliminated.
That would leave Armagh not capable of drawing Tyrone, Donegal, Dublin, Galway or Derry in the quarter final
In turn that would increase the chances of the other group winners to draw one of those teams in the quarterfinals.
Unless they can see the future,those games you're talking about are the following day ;D
Ideal for armagh is for Tyrone to top.
Yeah would mean avoiding them and Donegal til the semi. Along with 2 of Derry/Dublin/Galway, plus (likely) Kerry and Monaghan.
Damo out of the 26. Must have suffered another recurrence.
I hope we haven't seen the last of him in a maroon jersey.
Armagh showing how to play the new game. Moving it into space quickly and Galway's middle 8 chasing shadows.
Galway the opposite. Ponderous and one dimensional.
Shane Walsh mustn't like playing against Armagh. He's been so poor.
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That should have been a penalty for a foot block on Maher on 24 mins. You surely cannot block a kicker at that range with your leg. Dangerous play.
Quote from: thewobbler on June 14, 2025, 06:57:21 PMArmagh showing how to play the new game. Moving it into space quickly and Galway's middle 8 chasing shadows.
Galway the opposite. Ponderous and one dimensional.
Shane Walsh mustn't like playing against Armagh. He's been so poor.
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That should have been a penalty for a foot block on Maher on 24 mins. You surely cannot block a kicker at that range with your leg. Dangerous play.
We'd have fuxking missed it anyway.
Pathetic performance by us
Armagh going into meltdown now
Quote from: Baling Twine on June 14, 2025, 07:42:04 PMArmagh going into meltdown now
Why wouldn't they? They've topped the group.. no motivation to empty the tank now..
Superb first half from Armagh but very weak defensively. McCambridge McKay and Burns all big misses. Hopefully McCambridge and Burns not badly injured today.
Clear Armagh had other things on their mind than trying to win but that shouldn't take away from Galway who were fully deserving of their win.
Quote from: David McKeown on June 14, 2025, 08:27:08 PMSuperb first half from Armagh but very weak defensively. McCambridge McKay and Burns all big misses. Hopefully McCambridge and Burns not badly injured today.
Clear Armagh had other things on their mind than trying to win but that shouldn't take away from Galway who were fully deserving of their win.
Surely burns came off as he was on a yellow
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 14, 2025, 08:36:20 PMQuote from: David McKeown on June 14, 2025, 08:27:08 PMSuperb first half from Armagh but very weak defensively. McCambridge McKay and Burns all big misses. Hopefully McCambridge and Burns not badly injured today.
Clear Armagh had other things on their mind than trying to win but that shouldn't take away from Galway who were fully deserving of their win.
Surely burns came off as he was on a yellow
Both looked to be limping to me but I was on the far side.
Sure armagh have the strongest squad ever known???? 30 absolute machines. Either you have or you haven't. Slabbers
Quote from: 5times5times on June 14, 2025, 12:24:00 PMQuote from: David McKeown on June 13, 2025, 11:59:52 PMArmagh will be very interested in what happens in the Tyrone Donegal Mayo Cavan group I would say.
Armagh will probably be hoping Tyrone top the group and Mayo get eliminated.
That would leave Armagh not capable of drawing Tyrone, Donegal, Dublin, Galway or Derry in the quarter final
In turn that would increase the chances of the other group winners to draw one of those teams in the quarterfinals.
Unless they can see the future,those games you're talking about are the following day ;D
Ideal for armagh is for Tyrone to top.
Not sure it is anymore given Kerry finishing second.
Quote from: ONARAGGATIP on June 14, 2025, 09:09:22 PMSure armagh have the strongest squad ever known???? 30 absolute machines. Either you have or you haven't. Slabbers
I don't think they have 30 but they do have a very strong squad as today proved. Missing probably 5 first choice players and only lost by a point effectively in injury time.
Perfect game for Armagh today ahead of a two week break before the Q/Final. Alot of invaluable game time into several players, gonna be some battle for places at training over the next couple of weeks.
Great comeback from Galway, Monday's draw will be interesting and it's now that week after week will start to take its toll. Kerry could be there for the taking.
Quote from: balladmaker on June 14, 2025, 09:26:40 PMPerfect game for Armagh today ahead of a two week break before the Q/Final. Alot of invaluable game time into several players, gonna be some battle for places at training over the next couple of weeks.
Great comeback from Galway, Monday's draw will be interesting and it's now that week after week will start to take its toll. Kerry could be there for the taking.
There's a set of results tomorrow that would guarantee a Kerry v Connacht finalist preliminary quarter final.
How did grimley play?
Quote from: NotedObserver on June 14, 2025, 09:44:41 PMHow did grimley play?
I thought he was very good first half but his influence was curbed once Conroy came on.
On the game
Thought Walsh had a great gave but jeez he had some space , thought Galway struggling with possession at end til mc cormack messed up
For me
Rafferty had a poor second half and was the root of a lot of issues Armagh had
Paddy had a poor first half
Thought Cian had a super game as did Daragh mc Mullen
Quarter finals will be interesting now with the Kerry result
Seen enough in that first half to be happy that we'll beat Galway when it comes to it. Kickouts were awful at times but Ben was obviously a huge loss. Obviously weren't looking to win the game bringing boys like Mackin on, no one to tag Walsh when McCambridge and Burns went off.
He didn't score yesterday but Matthew Thompson laid on two great goal chances for Galway with delicate little foot passes in behind the Armagh defence. He's one of those players that always seems to have time on the ball. Because he's so new I don't think opposition have noticed yet how much of Galway's play goes through him already.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on June 15, 2025, 11:44:25 AMHe didn't score yesterday but Matthew Thompson laid on two great goal chances for Galway with delicate little foot passes in behind the Armagh defence. He's one of those players that always seems to have time on the ball. Because he's so new I don't think opposition have noticed yet how much of Galway's play goes through him already.
Was very impressed with him in the second half. Looks like a natural CHF.