So, a big game in the offing. Dublin a two week rested team following their win over Galway. Armagh coming in off a dose of the jitters late on against Derry with just a week's break.
Has the makings of a good contest with a decent crowd in attendance. The bookies have it at evens, draw 7/1. Joe McQuillan to ref it.
The winner will have one foot in the quarter final.
Quote from: balladmaker on May 26, 2025, 01:02:20 PMSo, a big game in the offing. Dublin a two week rested team following their win over Galway. Armagh coming in off a dose of the jitters late on against Derry with just a week's break.
Has the makings of a good contest with a decent crowd in attendance. The bookies have it at evens, draw 7/1. Joe McQuillan to ref it.
The winner will have one foot in the quarter final.
Depending on the result of the other game, the winner could be in the QF.
That's true, a draw in Derry/Galway would place the winners of Dublin/Armagh into the Q/Final.
Quote from: APM on May 26, 2025, 02:53:23 PMQuote from: balladmaker on May 26, 2025, 01:02:20 PMSo, a big game in the offing. Dublin a two week rested team following their win over Galway. Armagh coming in off a dose of the jitters late on against Derry with just a week's break.
Has the makings of a good contest with a decent crowd in attendance. The bookies have it at evens, draw 7/1. Joe McQuillan to ref it.
The winner will have one foot in the quarter final.
Depending on the result of the other game, the winner could be in the QF.
Derry win, Armagh win => Armagh in QF, Galway in trouble.
Galway win, Dublin win => Dublin in QF, Armagh and Galway play for second and third place
Derry win, Dublin win => Armagh v Galway becomes survival
This game will tell a lot as to where Sam may be going come July in my opinion.
Out of all the teams I've seen this year I think Armagh have probably been the most impressive; albeit I didnt see the Derry game.
I think we will know where Armagh are at this weekend and whether Dublin are really back or whether the Galway result was just the sting of a dying wasp.
Most important game of the all ireland series so far in my opinion.
Armagh beating Dublin in Croker would be a big statement.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 26, 2025, 05:03:49 PMThis game will tell a lot as to where Sam may be going come July in my opinion.
Out of all the teams I've seen this year I think Armagh have probably been the most impressive; albeit I didnt see the Derry game.
I think we will know where Armagh are at this weekend and whether Dublin are really back or whether the Galway result was just the sting of a dying wasp.
Most important game of the all ireland series so far in my opinion.
Armagh beating Dublin in Croker would be a big statement.
Yup, a win against Dublin in Croker would be a massive statement. Despite the jitters on Saturday evening, I still think whoever is going to win Sam will have to beat Armagh along the way. Going to be some massive lineups for the Q/Finals.
Looks like the lower tiers of the Hogan and Cusack are pretty much sold for Sunday.
Quote from: armaghniac on May 26, 2025, 04:51:21 PMQuote from: APM on May 26, 2025, 02:53:23 PMQuote from: balladmaker on May 26, 2025, 01:02:20 PMSo, a big game in the offing. Dublin a two week rested team following their win over Galway. Armagh coming in off a dose of the jitters late on against Derry with just a week's break.
Has the makings of a good contest with a decent crowd in attendance. The bookies have it at evens, draw 7/1. Joe McQuillan to ref it.
The winner will have one foot in the quarter final.
Depending on the result of the other game, the winner could be in the QF.
Derry win, Armagh win => Armagh in QF, Galway in trouble.
Galway win, Dublin win => Dublin in QF, Armagh and Galway play for second and third place
Derry win, Dublin win => Armagh v Galway becomes survival
The most likely outcome however I won't be surprised if Dublin make their exit at the Quarter final stage for the 2nd year in a row.
I've no idea as to the scope of our injuries but I always get the feeling McGeeney is still putting out teams to just do enough to win matches and no more, he doesn't want to show our full hand until it is absolutely necessary. I remember saying this in previous seasons and thought it ultimately came back to bite us in the arse. I do think he's a big believer in horses for courses and we change up personnel to do particular jobs – I thought that was very evident v Derry where Jason Duffy followed McFaul all day, while Duffy is a quality player he wouldn't be my first choice in MF.
I think McGeeney probably knows the team he wants to play on the big days in Croke Park and there's no doubt last year's AIF first 15 won't be starting on the really big days even if the injuries clear up, Ross McQuillan is a nailed on starter on any day, I'd also say Joe McElroy has lost his place to Darragh McMullan after the Derry game tbh. I get the feeling he's keeping Tomas McCormack in reserve and hoping to unleash him in Croke Park - but I could be talking pure dung. Also, does Sunday qualify as a really big Croke Park day?? I don't think it does, it's a high profile game surely but I don't think we go AIF style 100% at it.
Quote from: bennydorano on May 27, 2025, 03:02:17 PMI've no idea as to the scope of our injuries but I always get the feeling McGeeney is still putting out teams to just do enough to win matches and no more, he doesn't want to show our full hand until it is absolutely necessary. I remember saying this in previous seasons and thought it ultimately came back to bite us in the arse. I do think he's a big believer in horses for courses and we change up personnel to do particular jobs – I thought that was very evident v Derry where Jason Duffy followed McFaul all day, while Duffy is a quality player he wouldn't be my first choice in MF.
I think McGeeney probably knows the team he wants to play on the big days in Croke Park and there's no doubt last year's AIF first 15 won't be starting on the really big days even if the injuries clear up, Ross McQuillan is a nailed on starter on any day, I'd also say Joe McElroy has lost his place to Darragh McMullan after the Derry game tbh. I get the feeling he's keeping Tomas McCormack in reserve and hoping to unleash him Croke Park - but I could be talking pure dung. Also, does Sunday qualify as a really big Croke Park day?? I don't think it does, it's a high profile game surely but I don't think we go AIF style 100% at it.
I think this is spot on - he seems favour Ciaran Higgins for Galway matches. Only games he is ever selected for.
Quote from: bennydorano on May 27, 2025, 03:02:17 PMI've no idea as to the scope of our injuries but I always get the feeling McGeeney is still putting out teams to just do enough to win matches and no more, he doesn't want to show our full hand until it is absolutely necessary. I remember saying this in previous seasons and thought it ultimately came back to bite us in the arse. I do think he's a big believer in horses for courses and we change up personnel to do particular jobs – I thought that was very evident v Derry where Jason Duffy followed McFaul all day, while Duffy is a quality player he wouldn't be my first choice in MF.
I think McGeeney probably knows the team he wants to play on the big days in Croke Park and there's no doubt last year's AIF first 15 won't be starting on the really big days even if the injuries clear up, Ross McQuillan is a nailed on starter on any day, I'd also say Joe McElroy has lost his place to Darragh McMullan after the Derry game tbh. I get the feeling he's keeping Tomas McCormack in reserve and hoping to unleash him Croke Park - but I could be talking pure dung. Also, does Sunday qualify as a really big Croke Park day?? I don't think it does, it's a high profile game surely but I don't think we go AIF style 100% at it.
True, both have taken their chances and not looked back very promising to see.
I would be on the lines of thinking going into the last game with your destiny in your own hands is more important than holding back, so I would expect this to be as close to 100% as they can afford to go.
This game will show both teams where they're at and I'd say both may still have another few % to add for Jun/July if they get there. It's difficult to know how good Dublin were v Galway, TBH on the day I thought Galway were poor. They need Comer fit ASAP, i do remember seeing a regular first teamer sitting beside Comer in the stands but can't remember who it was. Conroy is struggling for form this year too but still the Dubs went to Salthill and won which is all they can do.
I think Croke Park will suit Armagh and obviously being the Dubs home pitch can we place £10 on a draw maybe?. Either way i think it'll be an exciting game and I'm looking forward to it...may the best team win (as long as it Armagh).
Some big calls for McGeeney to make in regards to team selection:
Who partners Crealey at midfield, did Duffy do enough on Saturday to keep his place, will Callum O'Neill come back in or will he go with the tried and tested Grimley/Crealey partnership?
Does Greg McCabe come in as a more orthodox holding 6 as the last 15 minutes were very concerning against Derry.
Are Aidan Forker/Oisin O'Neill fit?
How many minutes is there in Joe McElroy at the minute?
Most of the selection headaches are good to have.
Personally I would start with:
Rafferty,
Burns, McCambridge, Forker
McQuillan, TK, JOB
Crealey, Grimley,
McMullan, Rian, Conaty
Grugan, Murnin, Turbitt
Really hope Armagh and Dublin both really go at it has the makings of a top quality game. Ross McQuillan has been top class in half back this year rules really suit him looking forward see his running power in Croke Park, 4 points from play last week from half back probably went a bit under the radar.
Quote from: statto on May 29, 2025, 08:40:44 AMSome big calls for McGeeney to make in regards to team selection:
Who partners Crealey at midfield, did Duffy do enough on Saturday to keep his place, will Callum O'Neill come back in or will he go with the tried and tested Grimley/Crealey partnership?
Does Greg McCabe come in as a more orthodox holding 6 as the last 15 minutes were very concerning against Derry.
Are Aidan Forker/Oisin O'Neill fit?
How many minutes is there in Joe McElroy at the minute?
Most of the selection headaches are good to have.
Personally I would start with:
Rafferty,
Burns, McCambridge, Forker
McQuillan, TK, JOB
Crealey, Grimley,
McMullan, Rian, Conaty
Grugan, Murnin, Turbitt
Really hope Armagh and Dublin both really go at it has the makings of a top quality game. Ross McQuillan has been top class in half back this year rules really suit him looking forward see his running power in Croke Park, 4 points from play last week from half back probably went a bit under the radar.
Turbit is carrying an injury it would seem and I feel Aidan's in the twilight of his career so I doubt either will start. Probably biased due to the club connection but would like to see McCormack come in although not sure who to start up front.
Quote from: David McKeown on May 29, 2025, 09:29:50 AMQuote from: statto on May 29, 2025, 08:40:44 AMSome big calls for McGeeney to make in regards to team selection:
Who partners Crealey at midfield, did Duffy do enough on Saturday to keep his place, will Callum O'Neill come back in or will he go with the tried and tested Grimley/Crealey partnership?
Does Greg McCabe come in as a more orthodox holding 6 as the last 15 minutes were very concerning against Derry.
Are Aidan Forker/Oisin O'Neill fit?
How many minutes is there in Joe McElroy at the minute?
Most of the selection headaches are good to have.
Personally I would start with:
Rafferty,
Burns, McCambridge, Forker
McQuillan, TK, JOB
Crealey, Grimley,
McMullan, Rian, Conaty
Grugan, Murnin, Turbitt
Really hope Armagh and Dublin both really go at it has the makings of a top quality game. Ross McQuillan has been top class in half back this year rules really suit him looking forward see his running power in Croke Park, 4 points from play last week from half back probably went a bit under the radar.
Turbit is carrying an injury it would seem and I feel Aidan's in the twilight of his career so I doubt either will start. Probably biased due to the club connection but would like to see McCormack come in although not sure who to start up front.
Turbitt played nearly 60 minutes on Saturday so I would hope would be good to start especially if the game comes too soon for Oisin O'Neill. Forkers big game experience and leadership could be invaluable in Croke Park.
Would like to see McCormack get minutes on Sunday to utilise his pace, has been unfortunate to lose his place and has been a great find through the league.
Quote from: David McKeown on May 29, 2025, 09:29:50 AMQuote from: statto on May 29, 2025, 08:40:44 AMSome big calls for McGeeney to make in regards to team selection: Who partners Crealey at midfield, did Duffy do enough on Saturday to keep his place, will Callum O'Neill come back in or will he go with the tried and tested Grimley/Crealey partnership? Does Greg McCabe come in as a more orthodox holding 6 as the last 15 minutes were very concerning against Derry. Are Aidan Forker/Oisin O'Neill fit? How many minutes is there in Joe McElroy at the minute? Most of the selection headaches are good to have. Personally I would start with: Rafferty, Burns, McCambridge, Forker McQuillan, TK, JOBCrealey, Grimley,McMullan, Rian, ConatyGrugan, Murnin, Turbitt Really hope Armagh and Dublin both really go at it has the makings of a top quality game. Ross McQuillan has been top class in half back this year rules really suit him looking forward see his running power in Croke Park, 4 points from play last week from half back probably went a bit under the radar.
Turbit is carrying an injury it would seem and I feel Aidan's in the twilight of his career so I doubt either will start. Probably biased due to the club connection but would like to see McCormack come in although not sure who to start up front.
Would definitely have McCormack starting, thought he was one of our best players all year and unless he's carrying a knock he'd be in my team. I think start Oisin as long as last weeks knock was only precautionary and bring Turbo on who was excellent last week.
Joe McQuillen is worth 3 points to Dublin.
Quote from: statto on May 29, 2025, 10:41:05 AMQuote from: David McKeown on May 29, 2025, 09:29:50 AMQuote from: statto on May 29, 2025, 08:40:44 AMSome big calls for McGeeney to make in regards to team selection:
Who partners Crealey at midfield, did Duffy do enough on Saturday to keep his place, will Callum O'Neill come back in or will he go with the tried and tested Grimley/Crealey partnership?
Does Greg McCabe come in as a more orthodox holding 6 as the last 15 minutes were very concerning against Derry.
Are Aidan Forker/Oisin O'Neill fit?
How many minutes is there in Joe McElroy at the minute?
Most of the selection headaches are good to have.
Personally I would start with:
Rafferty,
Burns, McCambridge, Forker
McQuillan, TK, JOB
Crealey, Grimley,
McMullan, Rian, Conaty
Grugan, Murnin, Turbitt
Really hope Armagh and Dublin both really go at it has the makings of a top quality game. Ross McQuillan has been top class in half back this year rules really suit him looking forward see his running power in Croke Park, 4 points from play last week from half back probably went a bit under the radar.
Turbit is carrying an injury it would seem and I feel Aidan's in the twilight of his career so I doubt either will start. Probably biased due to the club connection but would like to see McCormack come in although not sure who to start up front.
Turbitt played nearly 60 minutes on Saturday so I would hope would be good to start especially if the game comes too soon for Oisin O'Neill. Forkers big game experience and leadership could be invaluable in Croke Park.
Would like to see McCormack get minutes on Sunday to utilise his pace, has been unfortunate to lose his place and has been a great find through the league.
He did but I think that was out of necessity rather than design. I understand his training is limited
Rafferty
P Burns
McCambridge
McGrane
McQuillan
Kelly
J Burns
Duffy
Crealy
McMullan
R O'Neill
Conaty
Grugan
Murnin
O O'Neill
Quote from: smelmoth on May 29, 2025, 10:44:32 PMRafferty
P Burns
McCambridge
McGrane
McQuillan
Kelly
J Burns
Duffy
Crealy
McMullan
R O'Neill
Conaty
Grugan
Murnin
O O'Neill
So basically last weeks starting team
Would expect 2 changes
No conn o Callaghan on the dub listed team
Armagh by 3/4
Con O'Callaghan ruled out for Dublin.
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Quote from: smelmoth on May 29, 2025, 10:44:32 PMRafferty
P Burns
McCambridge
McGrane
McQuillan
Kelly
J Burns
Duffy
Crealy
McMullan
R O'Neill
Conaty
Grugan
Murnin
O O'Neill
Official release shows Turbitt and not Oisin O'Neill
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Quote from: Blowitupref on May 29, 2025, 11:30:13 PMCon O'Callaghan ruled out for Dublin.
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He was Dublin's main playmaker at the league game. A big loss to the Dubs, from what looked like an innocuous enough looking knock against Galway.
Oisin O'Neill absent from the Armagh panel, hopefully its just a one game miss for him.
Quote from: balladmaker on May 30, 2025, 12:50:11 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on May 29, 2025, 11:30:13 PMCon O'Callaghan ruled out for Dublin.
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He was Dublin's main playmaker at the league game. A big loss to the Dubs, from what looked like an innocuous enough looking knock against Galway.
Oisin O'Neill absent from the Armagh panel, hopefully its just a one game miss for him.
Turbo not a bad replacement for Oisin in fairness.
Kilkenny and Bugler could cause Armagh a lot of problems with JOB and McQuillan being more offensive minded players in the half back line. Would expect that Scully, Gannon and one of the Small's will come into the Dublin starting team. Dublin defence quite inexperienced at this level outside Byrne and Howard which Armagh should target.
Anytime I see Connaire Mackin named in the panel I think he's earmarked for a job, so wouldn't be surprised to see him start. Could see McCormack coming in for McGrane as well.
Had the misfortune of coming across Colm Parkinson giving a small sample of his paid preview of this game. Who pays for that shite?
Quote"I have to say i'm rooting for Dublin, i prefer the high press..i don't like Armagh's zonal Gaelic ball"
Big contrast in styles this Sunday - we'll see how a zonal defence with 11 players works in Croke park
Quote from: Captain Obvious on May 30, 2025, 02:54:21 PMHad the misfortune of coming across Colm Parkinson giving a small sample of his paid preview of this game. Who pays for that shite?
Quote"I have to say i'm rooting for Dublin, i prefer the high press..i don't like Armagh's zonal Gaelic ball"
Big contrast in styles this Sunday - we'll see how a zonal defence with 11 players works in Croke park
Surprised people pay.
Any update on the crowd expected?
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 30, 2025, 10:14:03 PMAny update on the crowd expected?
According to Crokepark. ie the expected attendance 35/40,000 and that includes how many Wexford,Fermanagh supporters will turn up for the first game.
Am I correct in saying if Armagh top the group they avoid all the big teams in a Quarter.
So will likely play Cavan, Monaghan,Down, Louth, Meath, Cork or Roscommon.
Massive insensitive for them to run tomorrow and an actual advantage to being in a tough group.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on May 31, 2025, 12:30:34 AMAm I correct in saying if Armagh top the group they avoid all the big teams in a Quarter.
So will likely play Cavan, Monaghan,Down, Louth, Meath, Cork or Roscommon.
Massive insensitive for them to run tomorrow and an actual advantage to being in a tough group.
Depends who wins the other groups but would avoid donegal, Dublin, Galway and Derry. Also avoid the three other group winners
If Armagh won the group they could have Roscommon again and then Kerry, if Donegal, Galway came through other QFs. Even if Armagh has to play in a preliminary they would avoid Donegal, whereas Dublin or Galway might not.
Quote from: Blowitupref on May 29, 2025, 11:30:13 PMCon O'Callaghan ruled out for Dublin.
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Does that mean Con is definitely out or can a player still be brought into the 26?
Quote from: onefineday on June 01, 2025, 02:11:48 AMQuote from: Blowitupref on May 29, 2025, 11:30:13 PMCon O'Callaghan ruled out for Dublin.
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Does that mean Con is definitely out or can a player still be brought into the 26?
Can still be kept on the 30 if there was hope he'd be fit or Dessie was playing mind games.
Quote from: onefineday on June 01, 2025, 02:11:48 AMQuote from: Blowitupref on May 29, 2025, 11:30:13 PMCon O'Callaghan ruled out for Dublin.
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Does that mean Con is definitely out or can a player still be brought into the 26?
There is 4 replacements. If on that list can play.
Dublin haven't beaten Armagh in Championship since 2010 and league 2012. Armagh have won last two league meetings in 2022 & earlier this year. Never met in Jim Gavin time. With Con absent hard to see Dublin winning. Basquel, Paddy Small and Costello inconsistent. Bugler still hasn't done it in big championship games. Ciaran Kilkenny will still be the key man for Dublin today.
Rian O'Neill and Murnin will cause Dublin FB line issues with high ball.
Quote from: Gael85 on June 01, 2025, 11:17:40 AMQuote from: onefineday on June 01, 2025, 02:11:48 AMQuote from: Blowitupref on May 29, 2025, 11:30:13 PMCon O'Callaghan ruled out for Dublin.
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Does that mean Con is definitely out or can a player still be brought into the 26?
It's nuts - if not on the 26, tough unless a special medical exemption is obtained cos of an outbreak of sickness or something. Dessie is one of the worst in the country for this shite. I'm sure his old na fianna teammate will be well aware...
There is 4 replacements. If on that list can play.
Quote from: Lamps on May 29, 2025, 12:38:17 PMJoe McQuillen is worth 3 points to Dublin.
Worth more to Armagh
Armagh undefeated in 70 minutes in last 2 years . Will keep it going. Dublin are gassed. Nothing to show after first 20 minutes but wides.
Quote from: Gael85 on June 01, 2025, 04:42:58 PMArmagh undefeated in 70 minutes in last 2 years . Will keep it going. Dublin are gassed. Nothing to show after first 20 minutes but wides.
Trying your best to jinx it fella.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 01, 2025, 04:47:39 PMQuote from: Gael85 on June 01, 2025, 04:42:58 PMArmagh undefeated in 70 minutes in last 2 years . Will keep it going. Dublin are gassed. Nothing to show after first 20 minutes but wides.
Trying your best to jinx it fella.
Con only one with physicality. CK can't do by himself .
Game over
Jesus Dublin what are you at??!!
Has the education failed these Dublin players? Is it that hard to count to 3
G Dublin fair miss Fenton in midfield
Four handy ones in a row missed for the dubs
Never thought I'd say ever this but the Dublin forwards wouldn't score in a whore house.
Armagh go marching on. The shooting efficiency of the two teams was like chalk and cheese.
17 wides for Dublin
Well done to Armagh. By far better and more composed team.
Armagh through already so Armagh Galway game will be a gimme for Galway. Derry Dublin in a neutral venue (do dubs still consider Croke Park a neutral ground?) Advantage Derry as dubs don't like travelling beyond M50
Quote from: Mayo Border on June 01, 2025, 06:16:48 PMArmagh through already so Armagh Galway game will be a gimme for Galway. Derry Dublin in a neutral venue (do dubs still consider Croke Park a neutral ground?) Advantage Derry as dubs don't like travelling beyond M50
That game will be in Newry for sure?
Armagh looked good but the amount of dublin wides and 3 breaches cant be understated. Never seen a team breach the 3 up front as often as that.
What is the actual rule as i have seen frees given from the point of the breach but all of dublins were given as 20m frees
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 01, 2025, 06:25:30 PMArmagh looked good but the amount of dublin wides and 3 breaches cant be understated. Never seen a team breach the 3 up front as often as that.
What is the actual rule as i have seen frees given from the point of the breach but all of dublins were given as 20m frees
The rule is different for deliberate breaches and incidental ones not affecting play.
Quote from: tyrone08 on June 01, 2025, 06:25:30 PMArmagh looked good but the amount of dublin wides and 3 breaches cant be understated. Never seen a team breach the 3 up front as often as that.
What is the actual rule as i have seen frees given from the point of the breach but all of dublins were given as 20m frees
Fermanagh/Wexford game breaches were given as 20m frees also
I tell you what, from a Derry perspective I wouldn't be at all afraid of playing the Dubs at a neutral venue. Play like we did today and we should be in the hat for the next round.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 01, 2025, 06:27:31 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on June 01, 2025, 06:25:30 PMArmagh looked good but the amount of dublin wides and 3 breaches cant be understated. Never seen a team breach the 3 up front as often as that.
What is the actual rule as i have seen frees given from the point of the breach but all of dublins were given as 20m frees
The rule is different for deliberate breaches and incidental ones not affecting play.
If the breach is accidental then it's 20m free which can be taken outside. If the breach is deliberate to get directly involved in the play then it's a free from where the breach occurred.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 01, 2025, 06:24:24 PMQuote from: Mayo Border on June 01, 2025, 06:16:48 PMArmagh through already so Armagh Galway game will be a gimme for Galway. Derry Dublin in a neutral venue (do dubs still consider Croke Park a neutral ground?) Advantage Derry as dubs don't like travelling beyond M50
That game will be in Newry for sure?
Clones?
Not sure how much we learned about Armagh today. Very poor for large stretches but had a great purple patch just before half time.
Some positives will include
Winning without dominating own kickout.
Players coming back in
Performance of Conaty and McMullan.
Winning whilst playing poorly.
Topping the group of death.
Negatives
Poor on own kickout
Unable to really put away a side that couldn't hit a cows backside with a banjo.
Improvement needed for the knock out stages but happy to be there
Quote from: Mayo Border on June 01, 2025, 06:16:48 PMArmagh through already so Armagh Galway game will be a gimme for Galway. Derry Dublin in a neutral venue (do dubs still consider Croke Park a neutral ground?) Advantage Derry as dubs don't like travelling beyond M50
Don't think Armagh will risk players who are touch and go but I hope we take the chance to knock Galway out. Would rather they're gone at this stage!
Armagh will still want more minutes in Rian and might mix it up.
But like said already if they have a chance to get rid of Galway it's something to go for.
Also Galway have had 2 very tough games with a lot of hits.
You'd imagine some knocks are there.
It be easy for Armagh to go easy on Galway, but if they meet up again in the final and Galway win, there be alot of discussion why they didn't go full guns at them in the group game, and put them out.
I'd say we'll go full out bar anyone carrying knocks.
Rian O'Neill is a different level of footballer to everyone in Ireland bar maybe Clifford and Con O'Callaghan.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 01, 2025, 07:36:55 PMIt be easy for Armagh to go easy on Galway, but if they meet up again the final and Galway win, there be alot of discussion why they didn't go full guns at them in the group game, and put them out.
Could be another team in the knockout mix to possibly do our Dirty work for us tho as well. Maybe knock out Kerry or Donegal/Tyrone.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 01, 2025, 07:49:45 PMI'd say we'll go full out bar anyone carrying knocks.
Rian O'Neill is a different level of footballer to everyone in Ireland bar maybe Clifford and Con O'Callaghan.
Conor Glass up there also.
Playing some serious stuff.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 01, 2025, 07:36:55 PMIt be easy for Armagh to go easy on Galway, but if they meet up again the final and Galway win, there be alot of discussion why they didn't go full guns at them in the group game, and put them out.
It's not that straightforward.
Galway could still survive if they lost to Armagh , and Dublin beat Derry
Quote from: David McKeown on June 01, 2025, 06:54:27 PMNot sure how much we learned about Armagh today. Very poor for large stretches but had a great purple patch just before half time.
Some positives will include
Winning without dominating own kickout.
Players coming back in
Performance of Conaty and McMullan.
Winning whilst playing poorly.
Topping the group of death.
Negatives
Poor on own kickout
Unable to really put away a side that couldn't hit a cows backside with a banjo.
Improvement needed for the knock out stages but happy to be there
Blaine Hughes a better option. Can't see Armagh winning AI with Rafferty in nets against a strong midfield.
Quote from: Gael85 on June 01, 2025, 08:15:57 PMQuote from: David McKeown on June 01, 2025, 06:54:27 PMNot sure how much we learned about Armagh today. Very poor for large stretches but had a great purple patch just before half time.
Some positives will include
Winning without dominating own kickout.
Players coming back in
Performance of Conaty and McMullan.
Winning whilst playing poorly.
Topping the group of death.
Negatives
Poor on own kickout
Unable to really put away a side that couldn't hit a cows backside with a banjo.
Improvement needed for the knock out stages but happy to be there
Blaine Hughes a better option. Can't see Armagh winning AI with Rafferty in nets against a strong midfield.
LOL.
Quote from: marty34 on June 01, 2025, 07:54:48 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on June 01, 2025, 07:49:45 PMI'd say we'll go full out bar anyone carrying knocks.
Rian O'Neill is a different level of footballer to everyone in Ireland bar maybe Clifford and Con O'Callaghan.
Conor Glass up there also.
Playing some serious stuff.
A baller. But Rian would eat him for breakfast.
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 01, 2025, 08:45:32 PMQuote from: Gael85 on June 01, 2025, 08:15:57 PMQuote from: David McKeown on June 01, 2025, 06:54:27 PMNot sure how much we learned about Armagh today. Very poor for large stretches but had a great purple patch just before half time.
Some positives will include
Winning without dominating own kickout.
Players coming back in
Performance of Conaty and McMullan.
Winning whilst playing poorly.
Topping the group of death.
Negatives
Poor on own kickout
Unable to really put away a side that couldn't hit a cows backside with a banjo.
Improvement needed for the knock out stages but happy to be there
Blaine Hughes a better option. Can't see Armagh winning AI with Rafferty in nets against a strong midfield.
LOL.
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Very odd reporting on RTE 9 o'clock news unless I misheard the headline "Armagh's luck continues"
Quote from: AustinPowers on June 01, 2025, 07:59:30 PMQuote from: Wildweasel74 on June 01, 2025, 07:36:55 PMIt be easy for Armagh to go easy on Galway, but if they meet up again the final and Galway win, there be alot of discussion why they didn't go full guns at them in the group game, and put them out.
It's not that straightforward.
Galway could still survive if they lost to Armagh , and Dublin beat Derry
If we beat them by enough then they won't survive.
Quote from: Tubberman on June 01, 2025, 09:03:13 PMVery odd reporting on RTE 9 o'clock news unless I misheard the headline "Armagh's luck continues"
I heard that. Very odd indeed
Yes, Armagh were very lucky landing those 24 points :o
I went into the game thinking that Dublin would turn us over like they did against Galway. And after 15 minutes that seemed to be on the cards. But Armagh never give up.
McMullan, Rian, Conaty, Jarly Og, Ben all class acts.
TK is a rock at CHB - his reading of the game is getting better and better.
Cannot understand why the ref awarded Dublin a free after a Dub tripped Soupy.
Quote from: Orior on June 01, 2025, 10:24:15 PMI went into the game thinking that Dublin would turn us over like they did against Galway. And after 15 minutes that seemed to be on the cards. But Armagh never give up.
McMullan, Rian, Conaty, Jarly Og, Ben all class acts.
TK is a rock at CHB - his reading of the game is getting better and better.
Cannot understand why the ref awarded Dublin a free after a Dub tripped Soupy.
It was Dublin Joe, worth 3 or 4 scores to the Dubs as per lol
Didn't think Joe covered himself in glory today, wouldn't go as far as saying he ruined the game, but he didn't help it.
The second half was awful fayre for a spectator - dull, no flow, no excitement or intensity, no goal chances, just 3-up breaches, crappy frees and appalling shooting.
All that said, Armagh impressed, did what was needed and always looked like they could move up a gear if needed.
Re the 3-up breach, could linesmen maybe signal it with a flag, different colours for accidental v deliberate as from a spectator p.o.v in a stadium like croker, we've no idea what's going on - we just see Joe grab the ball and run to the other end of the pitch.
The media seems to think that if you go out and pump wides from silly places, then you are a top team and just unlucky...
Yeah the narrative of "if they scored all those shots they didn't, then they'd have won" is tiresome.
Quote from: onefineday on June 02, 2025, 01:11:33 AMDidn't think Joe covered himself in glory today, wouldn't go as far as saying he ruined the game, but he didn't help it.
The second half was awful fayre for a spectator - dull, no flow, no excitement or intensity, no goal chances, just 3-up breaches, crappy frees and appalling shooting.
All that said, Armagh impressed, did what was needed and always looked like they could move up a gear if needed.
Re the 3-up breach, could linesmen maybe signal it with a flag, different colours for accidental v deliberate as from a spectator p.o.v in a stadium like croker, we've no idea what's going on - we just see Joe grab the ball and run to the other end of the pitch.
point of the game was scored right at the start of the second half. Armagh done enough to keep the dubs at bay in the second half. We have levels to go up I think
Top of the group of death 3 years in a row not bad going. Just wait til we get Oisin O'Neill back fit. Thought so many lads were outstanding yesterday, great win with plenty to improve on and a free hit at Galway.
Dublin's worst performance since 2009 1/4 final.
How did they only lose by 5 pts?
2 if you took their 3v3 breaches out of it.
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 02, 2025, 09:06:42 AMpoint of the game was scored right at the start of the second half. Armagh done enough to keep the dubs at bay in the second half. We have levels to go up I think
I'm assuming you're talking about Rian's two-pointer into the wind, which was absolutely magnificent.
Given though that it's all about opinions, the point of the game, which was also the point of the Championship for me - and has been criminally overlooked - was Oisin Conaty's effort in the 30th minute. There were echoes of Maradona's goal against England in the Azteca in 1986.
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on June 02, 2025, 09:14:23 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 02, 2025, 09:06:42 AMpoint of the game was scored right at the start of the second half. Armagh done enough to keep the dubs at bay in the second half. We have levels to go up I think
I'm assuming you're talking about Rian's two-pointer into the wind, which was absolutely magnificent.
Given though that it's all about opinions, the point of the game, which was also the point of the Championship for me - and has been criminally overlooked - was Oisin Conaty's effort in the 30th minute. There were echoes of Maradona's goal against England in the Azteca in 1986.
I was yeah and I agree on that point by Conaty, that was superb as well, and to be fair one of the dubs scored a screamer too - Costello maybe. McMullans point was great as well. The pass, the flick, the pick up.
Quote from: lurganblue on June 02, 2025, 08:55:37 AMThe media seems to think that if you go out and pump wides from silly places, then you are a top team and just unlucky...
No, it's because the quality is not there!
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on June 02, 2025, 09:14:23 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on June 02, 2025, 09:06:42 AMpoint of the game was scored right at the start of the second half. Armagh done enough to keep the dubs at bay in the second half. We have levels to go up I think
I'm assuming you're talking about Rian's two-pointer into the wind, which was absolutely magnificent.
Given though that it's all about opinions, the point of the game, which was also the point of the Championship for me - and has been criminally overlooked - was Oisin Conaty's effort in the 30th minute. There were echoes of Maradona's goal against England in the Azteca in 1986.
Fantastic score. Reminded me a bit of a young Marsden.
Quote from: blanketattack on June 02, 2025, 09:14:15 AMDublin's worst performance since 2009 1/4 final.
How did they only lose by 5 pts?
2 if you took their 3v3 breaches out of it.
And if Kilkenny had nailed that two pointer at the end , it would have been a draw
Jaysus, Armagh were lucky as shite ;D
When are the venues and times for last round in the group likely to be known?
They could play Tyrone or mayo also
Quote from: maddog on June 02, 2025, 10:37:40 AMWhen are the venues and times for last round in the group likely to be known?
Tomorrow.
Quote from: naka on June 02, 2025, 12:00:19 PMThey could play Tyrone or mayo also
tyrone likely to win their group which would mean we avoid them in the qf anyway
Quote from: Tubberman on June 01, 2025, 09:03:13 PMVery odd reporting on RTE 9 o'clock news unless I misheard the headline "Armagh's luck continues"
The "luck" reference could've been referring to Dublin Joe's bizzare switch of allegiances, but perhaps too early to determine if he's to be Armagh's Joe.
Quote from: Main Street on June 02, 2025, 12:58:12 PMQuote from: Tubberman on June 01, 2025, 09:03:13 PMVery odd reporting on RTE 9 o'clock news unless I misheard the headline "Armagh's luck continues"
The "luck" reference could've been referring to Dublin Joe's bizzare switch of allegiances, but perhaps too early to determine if he's to be Armagh's Joe.
LOL. Watching a different game obviously
Quote from: Main Street on June 02, 2025, 12:58:12 PMQuote from: Tubberman on June 01, 2025, 09:03:13 PMVery odd reporting on RTE 9 o'clock news unless I misheard the headline "Armagh's luck continues"
The "luck" reference could've been referring to Dublin Joe's bizzare switch of allegiances, but perhaps too early to determine if he's to be Armagh's Joe.
Perhaps he just likes favouring AI champions?
Armagh will be hoping Galway Niall isn't reffing in 2 weeks time ;D
If Dublin can win in Galway then beating Derry in Newry will be a handier option especially if Con O'Callaghan is available ... but another performance like the Galway one will take the Dubs to the wire
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 01, 2025, 08:45:32 PMQuote from: Gael85 on June 01, 2025, 08:15:57 PMQuote from: David McKeown on June 01, 2025, 06:54:27 PMNot sure how much we learned about Armagh today. Very poor for large stretches but had a great purple patch just before half time.
Some positives will include
Winning without dominating own kickout.
Players coming back in
Performance of Conaty and McMullan.
Winning whilst playing poorly.
Topping the group of death.
Negatives
Poor on own kickout
Unable to really put away a side that couldn't hit a cows backside with a banjo.
Improvement needed for the knock out stages but happy to be there
Blaine Hughes a better option. Can't see Armagh winning AI with Rafferty in nets against a strong midfield.
LOL.
Rafferty having nightmare today.