I see Willie Maher has got the big gig - National Director of Hurling.
Not dishing him as he's only got it but I'd have went for someone at the coalface of Tier 2 and Tier 3. Maher has managed county teams and clubs at a high level. I'd have wanted someone 'down the food chain' a bit.
A bit underwhelming for me. I suppose it depends on his remit. But in all honesty, it's clear to me that the GAA doesn't really want to bridge the gap in hurling. It's all a ticking the boxes exercise.
What's the thoughts on hurling on artificial pitches?
Watching a schools game on clubber and the pitch is running very true, plenty of bounce on the ball which is making for a free flowing game.
Can't see it becoming a regular thing though as most teams are still training on grass and there are some issues over increased levels of injury on those surfaces.
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 13, 2025, 01:30:49 PMWhat's the thoughts on hurling on artificial pitches?
Watching a schools game on clubber and the pitch is running very true, plenty of bounce on the ball which is making for a free flowing game.
Can't see it becoming a regular thing though as most teams are still training on grass and there are some issues over increased levels of injury on those surfaces.
Wouldn't be a big fan of them, great for preseason games and when the monsoon hits in July to save it from use but as you have mentioned, injuries would be my main fear for players. Grand for refs though lol
Willie is a great appointment. He would have been a great career but for his injury.
His experience of managing a weak county will help him know what needs to be done to promote hurling outside the strongholds.
Quote from: SaffronSports on January 13, 2025, 01:30:49 PMWhat's the thoughts on hurling on artificial pitches?
Watching a schools game on clubber and the pitch is running very true, plenty of bounce on the ball which is making for a free flowing game.
Can't see it becoming a regular thing though as most teams are still training on grass and there are some issues over increased levels of injury on those surfaces.
I'm all for them.
Football can be played in muck and mud, but not hurling.
We need hurling matches to be played in as much of the year as possible.
Quote from: Premier Emperor on January 14, 2025, 09:28:40 AMWillie is a great appointment. He would have been a great career but for his injury.
His experience of managing a weak county will help him know what needs to be done to promote hurling outside the strongholds.
Laois mightn't be a hurling stronghold on your terms, but they've a strong playing base to work from whereas Willie will need to be more strategically minded if he's to put plans in place for the lower tiers to make progression with the hurling playing base.
I'm always minded of a comment Sambo McNaughton made years ago on RTE about Antrim and Ulster hurling when asked if Brian Cody would be able to help and his response was entirely bang on in that we don't need a Brian Cody, we need a Ned Quinn.
Putting structures in place at juvenile and club level is more important than driving up to Garvaghy or Owenbeg to take a training session.
Quote from: johnnycool on January 14, 2025, 10:19:10 AMQuote from: Premier Emperor on January 14, 2025, 09:28:40 AMWillie is a great appointment. He would have been a great career but for his injury.
His experience of managing a weak county will help him know what needs to be done to promote hurling outside the strongholds.
Laois mightn't be a hurling stronghold on your terms, but they've a strong playing base to work from whereas Willie will need to be more strategically minded if he's to put plans in place for the lower tiers to make progression with the hurling playing base.
I'm always minded of a comment Sambo McNaughton made years ago on RTE about Antrim and Ulster hurling when asked if Brian Cody would be able to help and his response was entirely bang on in that we don't need a Brian Cody, we need a Ned Quinn.
Putting structures in place at juvenile and club level is more important than driving up to Garvaghy or Owenbeg to take a training session.
Which is all his predecessor did as far as I could see anyway.
This should have been a strategically minded person, or if they wanted purely hurling person they should have created two roles.
what with the best will in the world will he know about Belfast or Derry and developing hurling in these cities? Will he have an idea how to develop hurling in Donegal or Monaghan?
Great he has a background at high level playing and has coached in Laois, surrounded by strong hurling counties. Not his fault but not the appointment that Hurling needed and again short sighted and insular.
Didn't Martin Fogarty resign from the hurling development committee in protest at the application process?
Maher was also on the hurling development committee, which is a bit bizarre that thats where the successful applicant came from.
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 14, 2025, 11:55:28 AMDidn't Martin Fogarty resign from the hurling development committee in protest at the application process?
Maher was also on the hurling development committee, which is a bit bizarre that thats where the successful applicant came from.
Is he not gone 3 years now?
Quote from: Premier Emperor on January 14, 2025, 09:29:56 AMQuote from: SaffronSports on January 13, 2025, 01:30:49 PMWhat's the thoughts on hurling on artificial pitches?
Watching a schools game on clubber and the pitch is running very true, plenty of bounce on the ball which is making for a free flowing game.
Can't see it becoming a regular thing though as most teams are still training on grass and there are some issues over increased levels of injury on those surfaces.
I'm all for them.
Football can be played in muck and mud, but not hurling.
We need hurling matches to be played in as much of the year as possible.
To me it made the game even faster and reduced the amount of rucks.
Quote from: marty34 on January 14, 2025, 05:08:29 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on January 14, 2025, 11:55:28 AMDidn't Martin Fogarty resign from the hurling development committee in protest at the application process?
Maher was also on the hurling development committee, which is a bit bizarre that thats where the successful applicant came from.
Is he not gone 3 years now?
Yeah he's gone from that role but he was a member of the newly formed Hurling Development Committee, that Maher is also on
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 14, 2025, 09:12:17 PMQuote from: marty34 on January 14, 2025, 05:08:29 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on January 14, 2025, 11:55:28 AMDidn't Martin Fogarty resign from the hurling development committee in protest at the application process?
Maher was also on the hurling development committee, which is a bit bizarre that thats where the successful applicant came from.
Is he not gone 3 years now?
Yeah he's gone from that role but he was a member of the newly formed Hurling Development Committee, that Maher is also on
What is Maher's profession as Jarlath says his professional expertise will help him develop the strategies necessary to grow the game?
New look Tipp, playing well with wind here in Galway. Let's see what they are like going the other way in the second half
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2025, 04:25:45 PMNew look Tipp, playing well with wind here in Galway. Let's see what they are like going the other way in the second half
Galway look really poor here though, seem to be going through the motions and sloppy passing
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on January 26, 2025, 04:56:08 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2025, 04:25:45 PMNew look Tipp, playing well with wind here in Galway. Let's see what they are like going the other way in the second half
Galway look really poor here though, seem to be going through the motions and sloppy passing
Yeah Tipp are looking like they are about 2 months ahead of schedule
Big win for Tipp. Cahill will be happy. They have a good few warriors in there for winter hurling.
Galway had a good few light lads who were bullied by Tipp.
Quote from: marty34 on January 26, 2025, 05:24:33 PMBig win for Tipp. Cahill will be happy. They have a good few warriors in there for winter hurling.
Galway had a good few light lads who were bullied by Tipp.
Tipp like Kilkenny have kept a strong spine to their team to help blood these young lads and Ormonde and McCarthy do look handy enough for 19/20 yo's..
Galway looked poor and disjointed, O'Donoghue has his work cut out for him here as it looks like he's needing a new defensive spine to his team, not sure Fintan Burke has the pace, but the game was played on a bog of a pitch so really hard to tell. Liam Collins will benefit from a drying out of the sod later in the year, but at the moment it looks like both they and Wexford are favourites for the drop down into 1B.
Clare gave a lot of their panel a run out yesterday and were probably unlucky to get beat by 2 by KK who's a lot more of their starting 15 on display, Lohan won't be overly disappointed in that result.
Lyng is trying to get KK defenders to play out and for the most part they did that and then hit diagonal balls into Cody and Mossy Keoghan, Cody was the difference in the winning and losing of that game yesterday, he'll need more support later in the year, Donnelly and Mullen will add that. Still not convinced by Drennan and Billy Ryan though.
Paddy Deegan had 12 on his back yesterday. They need to find his position and stick to it at this stage, but much of that will depend on David Blanchfield making a go of the centre back spot which he did well in, but was uncomfortable with Reidy and Rory Hayes running at him at different times yesterday.
By the sounds of it Dublin are trying to bring a physicality to their hurling, a recent friendly v Tipp was supposed to have been littered with melees and rough housing, they'll need to maintain that when the bigger teams are there, but I suppose they're favourites along with Waterford to come up from 1B.
Thought Billy Ryan was poor enough yesterday, Kilkenny played well enough, not brilliant, but managed to find the scores to stay ahead and managed to see the game out
Galway were very poor, yes after the game the night before and all the weather they had it was a miracle the game went ahead, but it was the same for both and Tipp have defo been training a lot longer 'preseason' I'd say as their physicality was distinctly different to the hosts.
Wexford will struggle unless they have their main players back and that doesn't seem to be happening any time soon
No Cork v Limerick on tv this weekend? Don't see it mentioned anywhere - a shame they are expecting 30,000 in Cork for it. Maybe GAA Go announce it later in the week.
Quote from: ClubScene13 on January 28, 2025, 02:55:14 PMNo Cork v Limerick on tv this weekend? Don't see it mentioned anywhere - a shame they are expecting 30,000 in Cork for it. Maybe GAA Go announce it later in the week.
No, RTE said today they requested to show the fixture but could not reach an accommodation with the two counties. About an earlier time I assume
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 28, 2025, 02:59:32 PMQuote from: ClubScene13 on January 28, 2025, 02:55:14 PMNo Cork v Limerick on tv this weekend? Don't see it mentioned anywhere - a shame they are expecting 30,000 in Cork for it. Maybe GAA Go announce it later in the week.
No, RTE said today they requested to show the fixture but could not reach an accommodation with the two counties. About an earlier time I assume
But no doubt there will be 'The new rules' line up game, I seen on TG4 that they even had a ref explaining the rules..
Hurling folk crying once again... Their league is as useless and pointless as their round robin...
Isnt the blame on TG4 for showing the big ball instead?
No. Cork GAA don't want fans to miss out watching the rugby game. Hence they not going to change the time of game to clash.
Quote from: marty34 on January 28, 2025, 05:30:16 PMNo. Cork GAA don't want fans to miss out watching the rugby game. Hence they not going to change the time of game to clash.
Do Cork CB really believe that they care more about the egg ball in D4, than repaying their stadium debts?
Why not just come out and tell the truth.
Hurling league is pointless, with same teams playing every single year.
Yaps
Quote from: 5times5times on January 28, 2025, 06:47:57 PMQuote from: marty34 on January 28, 2025, 05:30:16 PMNo. Cork GAA don't want fans to miss out watching the rugby game. Hence they not going to change the time of game to clash.
Do Cork CB really believe that they care more about the egg ball in D4, than repaying their stadium debts?
Why not just come out and tell the truth.
Hurling league is pointless, with same teams playing every single year.
Yaps
Quote from: 5times5times on January 28, 2025, 06:47:57 PMQuote from: marty34 on January 28, 2025, 05:30:16 PMNo. Cork GAA don't want fans to miss out watching the rugby game. Hence they not going to change the time of game to clash.
Do Cork CB really believe that they care more about the egg ball in D4, than repaying their stadium debts?
Why not just come out and tell the truth.
Hurling league is pointless, with same teams playing every single year.
Yaps
I wouldn't say football had a lot of variety over the years, trying to split Dublin lol
Quote from: 5times5times on January 28, 2025, 05:22:11 PMHurling folk crying once again... Their league is as useless and pointless as their round robin...
Isnt the blame on TG4 for showing the big ball instead?
Football isn't much better, but sure the league is good craic for blooding young lads.
Quote from: 5times5times on January 28, 2025, 06:47:57 PMQuote from: marty34 on January 28, 2025, 05:30:16 PMNo. Cork GAA don't want fans to miss out watching the rugby game. Hence they not going to change the time of game to clash.
Do Cork CB really believe that they care more about the egg ball in D4, than repaying their stadium debts?
Why not just come out and tell the truth.
Hurling league is pointless, with same teams playing every single year.
Yaps
Number of League winners in last 10 Years
Hurling =5
Football=4
Quote from: 5times5times on January 28, 2025, 05:22:11 PMHurling folk crying once again... Their league is as useless and pointless as their round robin...
Isnt the blame on TG4 for showing the big ball instead?
A 'football snob'!? Weird. Never thought they existed! Hahaha!
Quote from: 5times5times on January 28, 2025, 06:47:57 PMQuote from: marty34 on January 28, 2025, 05:30:16 PMNo. Cork GAA don't want fans to miss out watching the rugby game. Hence they not going to change the time of game to clash.
Do Cork CB really believe that they care more about the egg ball in D4, than repaying their stadium debts?
Why not just come out and tell the truth.
Hurling league is pointless, with same teams playing every single year.
Yaps
If you are implying that going head to head with the Rugby in Dublin would impact on the gate adversely then I think that's obvious, why would Cork shot themselves in the foot?
As for the league, it's now back to a Div1a and Div1b so there's now a bit of jeopardy in terms of relegation and promotion which may in fact help with the competitiveness of it which had been lacking the least few years although also having the league final not so close to the start of the championship should also help in that regard.
You sometimes got the feeling that if a team was to play championship two weeks later they were holding back on the strength of the team on the field.
Not every game can be live on TV, it never was so why expect it now?
Limerick naming a very strong team for the trip to Cork, they must mean to put manners on Cork for the championship defeats last year.
Would be well worth the watch.
Quote from: johnnycool on January 30, 2025, 09:45:56 PMLimerick naming a very strong team for the trip to Cork, they must mean to put manners on Cork for the championship defeats last year.
Would be well worth the watch.
5 hour trip, stay over few beers
Liking Galway this week.. young mclouhglin seems decent lad for Galway
Only 4pts in it at half-time.
Mossy hit 5pts in first half. Unsung player for Kilkenny.
All to play for is second hlf. NP rough enough. League is for defenders.
Cracking game these last 20 min
Is the Tipp game on tv anywhere
Great win for Carlow. Held out well for the win. They really punch above their weight.
Quealy under pressure in Waterford already. Could be a long season for them. Antrim could put them to the sword in Belfast in a few weeks. Davy Fitz. will be up for that.
James Mc Naughton is some operator. A Rolls Royce of a hurler. So stylish.
Quote from: marty34 on February 02, 2025, 04:03:24 PMGreat win for Carlow. Held out well for the win. They really punch above their weight.
Quealy under pressure in Waterford already. Could be a long season for them. Antrim could put them to the sword in Belfast in a few weeks. Davy Fitz. will be up for that.
James Mc Naughton is some operator. A Rolls Royce of a hurler. So stylish.
That's a decent win for them and makes you wonder where are Waterford? Definitely a team in my generation that missed out on winning a McCarthy cup
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2025, 04:12:17 PMQuote from: marty34 on February 02, 2025, 04:03:24 PMGreat win for Carlow. Held out well for the win. They really punch above their weight.
Quealy under pressure in Waterford already. Could be a long season for them. Antrim could put them to the sword in Belfast in a few weeks. Davy Fitz. will be up for that.
James Mc Naughton is some operator. A Rolls Royce of a hurler. So stylish.
That's a decent win for them and makes you wonder where are Waterford? Definitely a team in my generation that missed out on winning a McCarthy cup
Really highlights that there should be a relegation in munster not just leinster, Waterford after getting beat by a Joe Mcdonagh Cup team.
Quote from: Riseagain on February 02, 2025, 04:38:12 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2025, 04:12:17 PMQuote from: marty34 on February 02, 2025, 04:03:24 PMGreat win for Carlow. Held out well for the win. They really punch above their weight.
Quealy under pressure in Waterford already. Could be a long season for them. Antrim could put them to the sword in Belfast in a few weeks. Davy Fitz. will be up for that.
James Mc Naughton is some operator. A Rolls Royce of a hurler. So stylish.
That's a decent win for them and makes you wonder where are Waterford? Definitely a team in my generation that missed out on winning a McCarthy cup
Really highlights that there should be a relegation in munster not just leinster, Waterford after getting beat by a Joe Mcdonagh Cup team.
Or let Kerry play in it to improve them.
Quote from: marty34 on February 02, 2025, 04:40:30 PMQuote from: Riseagain on February 02, 2025, 04:38:12 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2025, 04:12:17 PMQuote from: marty34 on February 02, 2025, 04:03:24 PMGreat win for Carlow. Held out well for the win. They really punch above their weight.
Quealy under pressure in Waterford already. Could be a long season for them. Antrim could put them to the sword in Belfast in a few weeks. Davy Fitz. will be up for that.
James Mc Naughton is some operator. A Rolls Royce of a hurler. So stylish.
That's a decent win for them and makes you wonder where are Waterford? Definitely a team in my generation that missed out on winning a McCarthy cup
Really highlights that there should be a relegation in munster not just leinster, Waterford after getting beat by a Joe Mcdonagh Cup team.
Or let Kerry play in it to improve them.
Kerry got walloped by Kildare yesterday.
Their team is at the wrong phase of their development for a Munster championship now but there should be some jeopardy from the bottom team even if it may be a token gesture most of the time.
Quote from: johnnycool on February 02, 2025, 06:33:49 PMQuote from: marty34 on February 02, 2025, 04:40:30 PMQuote from: Riseagain on February 02, 2025, 04:38:12 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on February 02, 2025, 04:12:17 PMQuote from: marty34 on February 02, 2025, 04:03:24 PMGreat win for Carlow. Held out well for the win. They really punch above their weight.
Quealy under pressure in Waterford already. Could be a long season for them. Antrim could put them to the sword in Belfast in a few weeks. Davy Fitz. will be up for that.
James Mc Naughton is some operator. A Rolls Royce of a hurler. So stylish.
That's a decent win for them and makes you wonder where are Waterford? Definitely a team in my generation that missed out on winning a McCarthy cup
Really highlights that there should be a relegation in munster not just leinster, Waterford after getting beat by a Joe Mcdonagh Cup team.
Or let Kerry play in it to improve them.
Kerry got walloped by Kildare yesterday.
Their team is at the wrong phase of their development for a Munster championship now but there should be some jeopardy from the bottom team even if it may be a token gesture most of the time.
Conversely, Carlow beat Waterford today. Your point isn't valid. When is their right time for development?
Teams will use the Kerry game to rest their key players.
Let them play in it. Give them 3 years. What harm can it do? They'll get beat more than likely.
Seamy Flanagan digging the Cork defender in the balls..
https://x.com/i/status/1886040465721454958 (https://x.com/i/status/1886040465721454958)
Totally out of order this shít and should be met with a hefty suspension.
Tipp lad done similar last week in Salthill, Deccy Dalton the same last year.
Time Jarlath protected the crown jewels.
Cowardly and nasty.
Trampy act that, what sort of ban will he get?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2025, 01:49:49 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on February 03, 2025, 12:35:40 PMTrampy act that, what sort of ban will he get?
3 games
What would be the ruling there on using some randomers mobile phone footage as evidence?
Since I don't think it was picked up on by the main cameras on the evening.
Quote from: NAG1 on February 03, 2025, 02:57:08 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2025, 01:49:49 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on February 03, 2025, 12:35:40 PMTrampy act that, what sort of ban will he get?
3 games
What would be the ruling there on using some randomers mobile phone footage as evidence?
Since I don't think it was picked up on by the main cameras on the evening.
That is true and for a lot of cases there needs to be an 'official' camera that needs to be used.
But in this case, he should take his medicine as if he contests this it would be a bit embarrassing for everyone
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2025, 03:18:00 PMQuote from: NAG1 on February 03, 2025, 02:57:08 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2025, 01:49:49 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on February 03, 2025, 12:35:40 PMTrampy act that, what sort of ban will he get?
3 games
What would be the ruling there on using some randomers mobile phone footage as evidence?
Since I don't think it was picked up on by the main cameras on the evening.
That is true and for a lot of cases there needs to be an 'official' camera that needs to be used.
But in this case, he should take his medicine as if he contests this it would be a bit embarrassing for everyone
Not questioning whether he would take his medicine or not, more querying if they will actually be able to do anything about it without official footage. Interesting test case for sure.
I can't remember the case but I think this came up before in a case. I can't for the life of me recall what it was but I thought the same questions were asked and unofficial footage was used.
Quote from: imtommygunn on February 03, 2025, 03:37:56 PMI can't remember the case but I think this came up before in a case. I can't for the life of me recall what it was but I thought the same questions were asked and unofficial footage was used.
Clare v Waterford when they used the "evidence" of the three priests to suspend Colin Lynch for three games during Loughnanes reign?
There were hurls broken that day and the ref hadn't let the ball out of his hand yet! ;D
Quote from: johnnycool on February 04, 2025, 08:10:53 AMQuote from: imtommygunn on February 03, 2025, 03:37:56 PMI can't remember the case but I think this came up before in a case. I can't for the life of me recall what it was but I thought the same questions were asked and unofficial footage was used.
Clare v Waterford when they used the "evidence" of the three priests to suspend Colin Lynch for three games during Loughnanes reign?
There were hurls broken that day and the ref hadn't let the ball out of his hand yet! ;D
I believe they used the evidence of some teacher in the crowd to nail Lynch.
There was 3 priests who were the masterminds behind it all.
Wexford trying to put a bit of respect on the scoreboard but the wides are awful
Not a great watch. Hopefully Clare and Galway will be more competitive although the pitch looks fairly well cut up.
Quote from: johnnycool on February 08, 2025, 06:58:24 PMWexford trying to put a bit of respect on the scoreboard but the wides are awful
Game over at half-time but Wexford showed a bit of bite, at least, in the second half. They've lost a few leaders over the winter in O'Hanlon and Dee O'Keefe. I think it'll be hard for them to avoid relegation.
They are literally in a re-build.
A game of two halves for Kilkenny. Plenty for Lyng to work.
As an aside, great to see the light the light in Wexford and Salthill.
Although Salthill pitch looks brutal. Looks as if it was let grow over the winter and then mowed on level 1 the week before last. Maybe the lights make it look worse on tv.
RIP Michael Coleman. Very sad.
Spot the ball competition on now . Gal v Clare
Gettin away from Clare a bit now. Need a luminous ball!
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 08, 2025, 07:58:53 PMSpot the ball competition on now . Gal v Clare
Galway corner forward has no issues anyway, two goals and what looks like a dig in the taws for Lohan junior.
I'm not making light of it as the GAA has to come down hard on those incidents but Lohan was pretty loose with a few slaps on him just prior to that.
A white ball would be better on that surface
Quote from: johnnycool on February 08, 2025, 08:22:52 PMQuote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 08, 2025, 07:58:53 PMSpot the ball competition on now . Gal v Clare
Galway corner forward has no issues anyway, two goals and what looks like a dig in the taws for Lohan junior.
I'm not making light of it as the GAA has to come down hard on those incidents but Lohan was pretty loose with a few slaps on him just prior to that.
True. A few lads put on him to quell him. Lohan then sent in to sweeten him and gave him a swipe minutes before going away from the end line.
Hard to see from camera angle but Burns wasn't taking any messing.
Quote from: marty34 on February 08, 2025, 09:27:28 PMQuote from: johnnycool on February 08, 2025, 08:22:52 PMQuote from: Jeepers Creepers on February 08, 2025, 07:58:53 PMSpot the ball competition on now . Gal v Clare
Galway corner forward has no issues anyway, two goals and what looks like a dig in the taws for Lohan junior.
I'm not making light of it as the GAA has to come down hard on those incidents but Lohan was pretty loose with a few slaps on him just prior to that.
True. A few lads put on him to quell him. Lohan then sent in to sweeten him and gave him a swipe minutes before going away from the end line.
Hard to see from camera angle but Burns wasn't taking any messing.
Burns was impressive for a debutant.
https://www.gaa.ie/article/hurling-starter-packs-now-available-to-clubs
Just saw this press release yesterday. I wonder what the uptake will be in 2025. All good but it seems short enough notice for this year. Timing and planning important.
Great win for Donegal hurlers today against Kerry!
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Quote from: Bord na Mona man on February 23, 2025, 11:48:48 PMGreat win for Donegal hurlers today against Kerry!
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Donegal have put some serious effort into hurling these past few years and starting to get the results, that's a big win, probably better than Carlow beating Waterford. Great to see more Ulster counties doing well
Big win for the Donegal lads and they've been improving year on year.
They deservedly beat Down in the Conor McGurk in 2024 IIRC.
Donegal have improved a lot over this past few years but I still didn't see that coming. Great to see it!
Quote from: OakLeaf on February 24, 2025, 04:01:01 PMDonegal have improved a lot over this past few years but I still didn't see that coming. Great to see it!
I refereed a challenge game few years ago and I said to a mate afterwards that they have the makings of a good squad, skill level was decent and physicality good, strength and conditioning better than I expected also.. they have progressed well through the leagues
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 06:57:20 PMQuote from: OakLeaf on February 24, 2025, 04:01:01 PMDonegal have improved a lot over this past few years but I still didn't see that coming. Great to see it!
I refereed a challenge game few years ago and I said to a mate afterwards that they have the makings of a good squad, skill level was decent and physicality good, strength and conditioning better than I expected also.. they have progressed well through the leagues
There can't be much of a player pool for Donegal to pick from, three, maybe four clubs???
Burt and Setanta are the only two I can name off the top of my head.
Maybe the Tain league has its benefits after all.
Quote from: johnnycool on February 25, 2025, 09:00:54 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 06:57:20 PMQuote from: OakLeaf on February 24, 2025, 04:01:01 PMDonegal have improved a lot over this past few years but I still didn't see that coming. Great to see it!
I refereed a challenge game few years ago and I said to a mate afterwards that they have the makings of a good squad, skill level was decent and physicality good, strength and conditioning better than I expected also.. they have progressed well through the leagues
There can't be much of a player pool for Donegal to pick from, three, maybe four clubs???
Burt and Setanta are the only two I can name off the top of my head.
Maybe the Tain league has its benefits after all.
Think Letterkenny have a team and Four Masters maybe dabble a bit
Quote from: johnnycool on February 25, 2025, 09:00:54 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 06:57:20 PMQuote from: OakLeaf on February 24, 2025, 04:01:01 PMDonegal have improved a lot over this past few years but I still didn't see that coming. Great to see it!
I refereed a challenge game few years ago and I said to a mate afterwards that they have the makings of a good squad, skill level was decent and physicality good, strength and conditioning better than I expected also.. they have progressed well through the leagues
There can't be much of a player pool for Donegal to pick from, three, maybe four clubs???
Burt and Setanta are the only two I can name off the top of my head.
Maybe the Tain league has its benefits after all.
Quote from: johnnycool on February 25, 2025, 09:00:54 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 06:57:20 PMQuote from: OakLeaf on February 24, 2025, 04:01:01 PMDonegal have improved a lot over this past few years but I still didn't see that coming. Great to see it!
I refereed a challenge game few years ago and I said to a mate afterwards that they have the makings of a good squad, skill level was decent and physicality good, strength and conditioning better than I expected also.. they have progressed well through the leagues
There can't be much of a player pool for Donegal to pick from, three, maybe four clubs???
Burt and Setanta are the only two I can name off the top of my head.
Maybe the Tain league has its benefits after all.
Burt, Setanta, Eunans, McCumhaills, Buncrana, Carndonagh contest the Donegal hurling group stages, although in last year's championship, Buncrana and Carn failed to field in a couple of matches.
Final position determines senior and intermediate championship.
McCumhaills are rebuilding after a few years in the doldrums. Carn and Buncrana are slowly developing.
Four Masters and Aodh Ruadh have hurling teams but Im not sure how they are developing. They'd be in a good position to kick on following the recent county board interest in setting up new clubs in the county.
Dungloe in West Donegal founded by a Tipp lad whos living there now, I believe, are spreading the hurling gospel in that part of the county.
There was an underage hurling team in Gaoth Dobhair coached by a Belfast man but unfortunately the 'other' game takes priority there and not sure if they are still going.
There was a meeting recently in West Donegal to facilitate the establishment of new hurling clubs in the area so hopefully something positive came from that.
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on February 25, 2025, 11:59:37 AMQuote from: johnnycool on February 25, 2025, 09:00:54 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 06:57:20 PMQuote from: OakLeaf on February 24, 2025, 04:01:01 PMDonegal have improved a lot over this past few years but I still didn't see that coming. Great to see it!
I refereed a challenge game few years ago and I said to a mate afterwards that they have the makings of a good squad, skill level was decent and physicality good, strength and conditioning better than I expected also.. they have progressed well through the leagues
There can't be much of a player pool for Donegal to pick from, three, maybe four clubs???
Burt and Setanta are the only two I can name off the top of my head.
Maybe the Tain league has its benefits after all.
Quote from: johnnycool on February 25, 2025, 09:00:54 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 06:57:20 PMQuote from: OakLeaf on February 24, 2025, 04:01:01 PMDonegal have improved a lot over this past few years but I still didn't see that coming. Great to see it!
I refereed a challenge game few years ago and I said to a mate afterwards that they have the makings of a good squad, skill level was decent and physicality good, strength and conditioning better than I expected also.. they have progressed well through the leagues
There can't be much of a player pool for Donegal to pick from, three, maybe four clubs???
Burt and Setanta are the only two I can name off the top of my head.
Maybe the Tain league has its benefits after all.
Burt, Setanta, Eunans, McCumhaills, Buncrana, Carndonagh contest the Donegal hurling group stages, although in last year's championship, Buncrana and Carn failed to field in a couple of matches.
Final position determines senior and intermediate championship.
McCumhaills are rebuilding after a few years in the doldrums. Carn and Buncrana are slowly developing.
Four Masters and Aodh Ruadh have hurling teams but Im not sure how they are developing. They'd be in a good position to kick on following the recent county board interest in setting up new clubs in the county.
Dungloe in West Donegal founded by a Tipp lad whos living there now, I believe, are spreading the hurling gospel in that part of the county.
There was an underage hurling team in Gaoth Dobhair coached by a Belfast man but unfortunately the 'other' game takes priority there and not sure if they are still going.
There was a meeting recently in West Donegal to facilitate the establishment of new hurling clubs in the area so hopefully something positive came from that.
Good to see.
I did get talking to a few ladies involved with Camogie within Donegal and they're growing the club base as well which is good to see.
They made lovely scones ;D
Ask nay questions, told nay lies.
Quote from: johnnycool on February 25, 2025, 09:00:54 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 06:57:20 PMQuote from: OakLeaf on February 24, 2025, 04:01:01 PMDonegal have improved a lot over this past few years but I still didn't see that coming. Great to see it!
I refereed a challenge game few years ago and I said to a mate afterwards that they have the makings of a good squad, skill level was decent and physicality good, strength and conditioning better than I expected also.. they have progressed well through the leagues
There can't be much of a player pool for Donegal to pick from, three, maybe four clubs???
Burt and Setanta are the only two I can name off the top of my head.
Maybe the Tain league has its benefits after all.
Think they used the intercounty transfers a bit but yeah a small pool of clubs, which when you look traditionally at what they deal with is some achievement
Bit of background here
https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2025/0224/1498627-hard-work-paying-off-as-donegal-hurlers-blossom/
I remember hearing about a hurling club in Donegal near an army barracks and they were getting some success from lads posted there from other parts of Ireland. Would there be many of those lads on the county team or all born and bred Donegal men?
Quote from: johnnycool on February 25, 2025, 12:27:36 PMQuote from: Antrim Coaster on February 25, 2025, 11:59:37 AMQuote from: johnnycool on February 25, 2025, 09:00:54 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 06:57:20 PMQuote from: OakLeaf on February 24, 2025, 04:01:01 PMDonegal have improved a lot over this past few years but I still didn't see that coming. Great to see it!
I refereed a challenge game few years ago and I said to a mate afterwards that they have the makings of a good squad, skill level was decent and physicality good, strength and conditioning better than I expected also.. they have progressed well through the leagues
There can't be much of a player pool for Donegal to pick from, three, maybe four clubs???
Burt and Setanta are the only two I can name off the top of my head.
Maybe the Tain league has its benefits after all.
Quote from: johnnycool on February 25, 2025, 09:00:54 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 06:57:20 PMQuote from: OakLeaf on February 24, 2025, 04:01:01 PMDonegal have improved a lot over this past few years but I still didn't see that coming. Great to see it!
I refereed a challenge game few years ago and I said to a mate afterwards that they have the makings of a good squad, skill level was decent and physicality good, strength and conditioning better than I expected also.. they have progressed well through the leagues
There can't be much of a player pool for Donegal to pick from, three, maybe four clubs???
Burt and Setanta are the only two I can name off the top of my head.
Maybe the Tain league has its benefits after all.
Burt, Setanta, Eunans, McCumhaills, Buncrana, Carndonagh contest the Donegal hurling group stages, although in last year's championship, Buncrana and Carn failed to field in a couple of matches.
Final position determines senior and intermediate championship.
McCumhaills are rebuilding after a few years in the doldrums. Carn and Buncrana are slowly developing.
Four Masters and Aodh Ruadh have hurling teams but Im not sure how they are developing. They'd be in a good position to kick on following the recent county board interest in setting up new clubs in the county.
Dungloe in West Donegal founded by a Tipp lad whos living there now, I believe, are spreading the hurling gospel in that part of the county.
There was an underage hurling team in Gaoth Dobhair coached by a Belfast man but unfortunately the 'other' game takes priority there and not sure if they are still going.
There was a meeting recently in West Donegal to facilitate the establishment of new hurling clubs in the area so hopefully something positive came from that.
Good to see.
I did get talking to a few ladies involved with Camogie within Donegal and they're growing the club base as well which is good to see.
They made lovely scones ;D
Ask nay questions, told nay lies.
4 camogie clubs so far contest the camogie championship - Burt, Carn, Eunans and Markievicz. MacCumhaills might have a camogie section as well..
Quote from: Antrim Coaster on February 26, 2025, 11:39:59 AMQuote from: johnnycool on February 25, 2025, 12:27:36 PMQuote from: Antrim Coaster on February 25, 2025, 11:59:37 AMQuote from: johnnycool on February 25, 2025, 09:00:54 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 06:57:20 PMQuote from: OakLeaf on February 24, 2025, 04:01:01 PMDonegal have improved a lot over this past few years but I still didn't see that coming. Great to see it!
I refereed a challenge game few years ago and I said to a mate afterwards that they have the makings of a good squad, skill level was decent and physicality good, strength and conditioning better than I expected also.. they have progressed well through the leagues
There can't be much of a player pool for Donegal to pick from, three, maybe four clubs???
Burt and Setanta are the only two I can name off the top of my head.
Maybe the Tain league has its benefits after all.
Quote from: johnnycool on February 25, 2025, 09:00:54 AMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 06:57:20 PMQuote from: OakLeaf on February 24, 2025, 04:01:01 PMDonegal have improved a lot over this past few years but I still didn't see that coming. Great to see it!
I refereed a challenge game few years ago and I said to a mate afterwards that they have the makings of a good squad, skill level was decent and physicality good, strength and conditioning better than I expected also.. they have progressed well through the leagues
There can't be much of a player pool for Donegal to pick from, three, maybe four clubs???
Burt and Setanta are the only two I can name off the top of my head.
Maybe the Tain league has its benefits after all.
Burt, Setanta, Eunans, McCumhaills, Buncrana, Carndonagh contest the Donegal hurling group stages, although in last year's championship, Buncrana and Carn failed to field in a couple of matches.
Final position determines senior and intermediate championship.
McCumhaills are rebuilding after a few years in the doldrums. Carn and Buncrana are slowly developing.
Four Masters and Aodh Ruadh have hurling teams but Im not sure how they are developing. They'd be in a good position to kick on following the recent county board interest in setting up new clubs in the county.
Dungloe in West Donegal founded by a Tipp lad whos living there now, I believe, are spreading the hurling gospel in that part of the county.
There was an underage hurling team in Gaoth Dobhair coached by a Belfast man but unfortunately the 'other' game takes priority there and not sure if they are still going.
There was a meeting recently in West Donegal to facilitate the establishment of new hurling clubs in the area so hopefully something positive came from that.
Good to see.
I did get talking to a few ladies involved with Camogie within Donegal and they're growing the club base as well which is good to see.
They made lovely scones ;D
Ask nay questions, told nay lies.
4 camogie clubs so far contest the camogie championship - Burt, Carn, Eunans and Markievicz. MacCumhaills might have a camogie section as well..
Camogie ladies are important for the next generation
Shane O'Donnell to miss the rest of the year for Clare to have surgery on his shoulder
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 27, 2025, 03:01:03 PMShane O'Donnell to miss the rest of the year for Clare to have surgery on his shoulder
Bad news for O'Donnell and Clare obviously.
I see Dublin letting any one of their panel who didn't get game time V Offaly will play for their clubs.
Very sensible by O'Ceallacháin.
Pity more counties wouldn't do this.
Quote from: marty34 on February 27, 2025, 07:49:49 PMI see Dublin letting any one of their panel who didn't get game time V Offaly will play for their clubs.
Very sensible by O'Ceallacháin.
Pity more counties wouldn't do this.
Do most not do it for lads not on the 26 in a given week?
Quote from: Saffrongael on February 27, 2025, 03:01:03 PMShane O'Donnell to miss the rest of the year for Clare to have surgery on his shoulder
Ah sorry to read that. What a player and what a loss for Clare and for hurling fans in general.
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 27, 2025, 08:55:54 PMQuote from: marty34 on February 27, 2025, 07:49:49 PMI see Dublin letting any one of their panel who didn't get game time V Offaly will play for their clubs.
Very sensible by O'Ceallacháin.
Pity more counties wouldn't do this.
Do most not do it for lads not on the 26 in a given week?
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 27, 2025, 08:55:54 PMQuote from: marty34 on February 27, 2025, 07:49:49 PMI see Dublin letting any one of their panel who didn't get game time V Offaly will play for their clubs.
Very sensible by O'Ceallacháin.
Pity more counties wouldn't do this.
Do most not do it for lads not on the 26 in a given week?
I don't think so. I always thought that's split season?
Would Mc Geeney or Mc Guinness do it in a few weeks when Armagh/Donegal league starts?
Quote from: marty34 on February 27, 2025, 09:31:02 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on February 27, 2025, 08:55:54 PMQuote from: marty34 on February 27, 2025, 07:49:49 PMI see Dublin letting any one of their panel who didn't get game time V Offaly will play for their clubs.
Very sensible by O'Ceallacháin.
Pity more counties wouldn't do this.
Do most not do it for lads not on the 26 in a given week?
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 27, 2025, 08:55:54 PMQuote from: marty34 on February 27, 2025, 07:49:49 PMI see Dublin letting any one of their panel who didn't get game time V Offaly will play for their clubs.
Very sensible by O'Ceallacháin.
Pity more counties wouldn't do this.
Do most not do it for lads not on the 26 in a given week?
I don't think so. I always thought that's split season?
Would Mc Geeney or Mc Guinness do it in a few weeks when Armagh/Donegal league starts?
Yeah lads not named on the panel on a given week were released back to the clubs for games last year for sure.
Surely it's better they get some form of football. Bound to sicken your hole training all the time and not playing.
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 27, 2025, 09:41:26 PMQuote from: marty34 on February 27, 2025, 09:31:02 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on February 27, 2025, 08:55:54 PMQuote from: marty34 on February 27, 2025, 07:49:49 PMI see Dublin letting any one of their panel who didn't get game time V Offaly will play for their clubs.
Very sensible by O'Ceallacháin.
Pity more counties wouldn't do this.
Do most not do it for lads not on the 26 in a given week?
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 27, 2025, 08:55:54 PMQuote from: marty34 on February 27, 2025, 07:49:49 PMI see Dublin letting any one of their panel who didn't get game time V Offaly will play for their clubs.
Very sensible by O'Ceallacháin.
Pity more counties wouldn't do this.
Do most not do it for lads not on the 26 in a given week?
I don't think so. I always thought that's split season?
Would Mc Geeney or Mc Guinness do it in a few weeks when Armagh/Donegal league starts?
Yeah lads not named on the panel on a given week were released back to the clubs for games last year for sure.
Surely it's better they get some form of football. Bound to sicken your hole training all the time and not playing.
100%. Totally agree.
Lads like matches.
But I think lads on Dublin panel who are say, No. 19 or No. 23 who didn't get game time V Offaly play for their clubs in Dublin hurling league.
That's different - I'm not talking aout lads who are No. 36 or No. 39. on the panel.
Somebody may confirm.
Or maybe it was a one-off?
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 27, 2025, 08:56:38 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on February 27, 2025, 03:01:03 PMShane O'Donnell to miss the rest of the year for Clare to have surgery on his shoulder
Ah sorry to read that. What a player and what a loss for Clare and for hurling fans in general.
Clare have got off to a slow start in the league as well. It looks to me like they are going to have a down year after championship glory last year. They may not even get out of Munster.
Quote from: Capt Pat on March 02, 2025, 01:16:36 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on February 27, 2025, 08:56:38 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on February 27, 2025, 03:01:03 PMShane O'Donnell to miss the rest of the year for Clare to have surgery on his shoulder
Ah sorry to read that. What a player and what a loss for Clare and for hurling fans in general.
Clare have got off to a slow start in the league as well. It looks to me like they are going to have a down year after championship glory last year. They may not even get out of Munster.
Maybe they are focusing on the championship. Last year they won both the league and the championship. They needed the league because they needed some silverware in the bank before they entered the Munster championship. The motivation this year is different
Quote from: seafoid on March 02, 2025, 01:54:08 PMQuote from: Capt Pat on March 02, 2025, 01:16:36 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on February 27, 2025, 08:56:38 PMQuote from: Saffrongael on February 27, 2025, 03:01:03 PMShane O'Donnell to miss the rest of the year for Clare to have surgery on his shoulder
Ah sorry to read that. What a player and what a loss for Clare and for hurling fans in general.
Clare have got off to a slow start in the league as well. It looks to me like they are going to have a down year after championship glory last year. They may not even get out of Munster.
Maybe they are focusing on the championship. Last year they won both the league and the championship. They needed the league because they needed some silverware in the bank before they entered the Munster championship. The motivation this year is different
The loss of O'Donnell too much of a hit for aspirations to win the All Ireland again this year, imo. Can't be overstated his contribution and pulling that team back up by the boot laces when they're under pressure. Brilliant player.. pure heart.
What a bunch of cowards. Byrnes did nothing to earn a red.
They'll get their payback in the Munster Championship.
https://x.com/CraicOfTheAsh/status/1896258796898640068
Quote from: Dag Dog on March 02, 2025, 09:45:40 PMWhat a bunch of cowards. Byrnes did nothing to earn a red.
They'll get their payback in the Munster Championship.
https://x.com/CraicOfTheAsh/status/1896258796898640068
How many punches did he try and throw ?
Quote from: Dag Dog on March 02, 2025, 09:45:40 PMWhat a bunch of cowards. Byrnes did nothing to earn a red.
They'll get their payback in the Munster Championship.
https://x.com/CraicOfTheAsh/status/1896258796898640068
I don't think he got the red for the hit. But isn't throwing a punch an automatic red? I thought it was Ali-Frazier one more time!
What's more interesting, thanks to Byrnes departure, Limerick appear to have found a better long free taker.
Quote from: Deerstalker on March 02, 2025, 09:50:59 PMQuote from: Dag Dog on March 02, 2025, 09:45:40 PMWhat a bunch of cowards. Byrnes did nothing to earn a red.
They'll get their payback in the Munster Championship.
https://x.com/CraicOfTheAsh/status/1896258796898640068
How many punches did he try and throw ?
He had to go FFS, he led with the elbow/forearm into Kelly who had no chance to protect himself whilst looking down at the ball on the ground let alone the swinging arms AKA punches, but so did Tony Kelly, not that type of player doesn't cut it when Adam English is pishing blood all over the shop.
Limerick will rue the loss of Quaid and will need to decide quickly who that replacement is going to be and stick with them so that they can work on restarts as Limerick were a bit off on them yesterday.
Limerick will lick their wounds but know they've some serious power to come back into that team for championship.
Limerick will get out of Munster, Cork, Tipp and Clare are fighting it out for the other two spots.
Cork would be everyone's favourites to take a berth, but I still think they're missing that lad who can pull a ball out of the air when they most need it in their forwards. Healy is a serious speedster and that's always good to have and took some good scores, he won't get that same latitude come championship and Kilkenny's defence does lack pack.
Is the new Tipp resurgence going to stay the pace for Munster, they have uncovered some tidy hurlers and only time will tell, but I have them behind Clare still in the Munster pecking order only due to the fact that we're now starting to see Clare fill the gaps in their team with their starting 15 and the improvement is unreal.
That doesn't say much for the other Clare panelists though and Lohan should be disappointed a bit with that. An understudy at fullback is also needed as Lohan junior ain't that and they'll need Leen elsewhere later this spring.
Too many presentation dinners over the winter could have whetted the appetite there as well.
Waterford are well off the pace again it seems which is sad.
Limerick are hammering Galway
Quote from: seafoid on March 08, 2025, 08:35:17 PMLimerick are hammering Galway
I think it's me. Watched Tipp hammer Galway too and then I think they've won every other match that I haven't watched. Red card won't have helped them tonight
Quote from: seafoid on March 08, 2025, 08:35:17 PMLimerick are hammering Galway
From Hoganstand:
Allianz HL Division 1A
Limerick 1-247 Galway 0-18, TUS Gaelic Grounds, Limerick FT
The highest ever score in an inter-county hurling game :)
Quote from: Dag Dog on March 02, 2025, 09:45:40 PMWhat a bunch of cowards. Byrnes did nothing to earn a red.
They'll get their payback in the Munster Championship.
https://x.com/CraicOfTheAsh/status/1896258796898640068
Ye might get away with that stuff in the pub but thankfully not on the pitch ;)
Quote from: seafoid on March 08, 2025, 08:35:17 PMLimerick are hammering Galway
Just an hour beforehand I was reading McManus' article stating how Galway had sorted the spine of their defence. :o
It was noticeable from the off how much Limerick were up for this. Galway didn't help themselves with some silly passing from the back. They were lucky Limerick's shooting was off in the first half. Adam English got on a pile of ball but missed a number of points. Gillane missed a sitter. Would Limerick be improved by moving Kyle Hayes into the middle and Will O'Donoghue into chb?
Cork are giving Clare a spanking
6 goals, but can't do it, when it counts. Clare I doubt have to look where all those goals came from.
Limerick always make Galway look worse than they are. But in saying that Galway were terrible, always seem to have a load in their togs playing Limerick and Kilkenny.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 09, 2025, 04:27:00 PM6 goals, but can't do it, when it counts. Clare I doubt have to look where all those goals came from.
How did you work that one out, they lost the All Ireland Final by a point in extra time having twice beaten 5 in a row chasing Limerick???
Quote from: marty34 on March 08, 2025, 10:02:06 PMQuote from: seafoid on March 08, 2025, 08:35:17 PMLimerick are hammering Galway
Just an hour beforehand I was reading McManus' article stating how Galway had sorted the spine of their defence. :o
Gavin Lee looks to have potential at centre back but Fintan Burke is too slow for a modern day fullback.
Was talking to a man at that game and he said the difference in terms of S&C between the two teams was unreal with Galway a few years behind in that regard.
They may get out of Leinster but hard to see them go beyond that.
Limerick picked up a few concerning injuries, Hayes in particular, but Peter Casey being introduced gives them a much needed spark in their forward options.
Will O'Donoghue is a wrecking ball of a man, I'd avoid him like the plague if I were on the opposition.
Clare needed to get gametime into Conlon, McInerney and Cleary, chastening experience for Lohan and his charges, but IMO there are chinks in this Cork team that will be exposed come championship, I still have my doubts about them in the heat of battle and when they can't run their lines.
Huge expectations now from the Cork supporters with this team.
20 years without an AI is unheard of down there.
Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2025, 08:51:01 AMQuote from: marty34 on March 08, 2025, 10:02:06 PMQuote from: seafoid on March 08, 2025, 08:35:17 PMLimerick are hammering Galway
Just an hour beforehand I was reading McManus' article stating how Galway had sorted the spine of their defence. :o
Gavin Lee looks to have potential at centre back but Fintan Burke is too slow for a modern day fullback.
Was talking to a man at that game and he said the difference in terms of S&C between the two teams was unreal with Galway a few years behind in that regard.
They may get out of Leinster but hard to see them go beyond that.
Limerick picked up a few concerning injuries, Hayes in particular, but Peter Casey being introduced gives them a much needed spark in their forward options.
Will O'Donoghue is a wrecking ball of a man, I'd avoid him like the plague if I were on the opposition.
Clare needed to get gametime into Conlon, McInerney and Cleary, chastening experience for Lohan and his charges, but IMO there are chinks in this Cork team that will be exposed come championship, I still have my doubts about them in the heat of battle and when they can't run their lines.
Huge expectations now from the Cork supporters with this team.
20 years without an AI is unheard of down there.
The Munster championship can throw up all sorts of crazy games and getting out of it will remain the number one priority before talking about All Irelands I'd say, but having seen Cork recently the games I've seen they have a bitta zip about them and while Clare capitulated Cork didn't stop, foot down on the throat and whether they wanted to lay down a marker or not it was impressive enough at times
Quote from: LarryStiles on March 09, 2025, 05:38:53 PMLimerick always make Galway look worse than they are. But in saying that Galway were terrible, always seem to have a load in their togs playing Limerick and Kilkenny.
Galway have looked terrible twice this year. To be fair, timing was against them. They caught Tipp at the start, when Tipp was determined to atone for their winless 2024 championship campaign. Then they play Limerick a week after they lost at home to Clare.
One wouldn't give them much chance going to Cork next, however who would have bet on them at Kilkenny earlier this year?
Last year I figured Limerick had one more All Ireland in them and that Cork was a year away. My heart was with Clare as the clock was ticking. Thus 2024 turned out just fine.
I've seen nothing yet to abandon my prediction for Cork in 2025. If teams don't get on top of their offence Cork really do run riot. Reminds me of the kind of destruction Kilkenny would do 2006-09.
I'm not saying Cork is the next dynasty but, my goodness, the potential is there. Luckily it's so competitive now that nothing is predictable.
Strange weekend at the top table with none of the games being massively competitive.
Think Sheedy hit the nail on the head last night, too close to championship and trying to do it as a balancing act while trying to prep isn't working for the spectacle.
For what its worth IMO:
Limerick - looked back to somewhere close to their fluent best, KH getting injured could be a big blow.
Galway - I didnt think they were as bad as they looked, had some decent play and missed a load of chances and if you want to build a team then Gavin Lee would be a good place to start.
Cork - looked so sharp with massive motivation from the final last year, so will be challenging very strongly this year.
KK - possibly worst KK I've seen in my lifetime.
Tipp - progressing but think they will be found out when push comes to shove in the championship, but on upward trajectory.
Clare - hard to know where they are at, not sure they pack enough punch up front without SO'D. Conlon at 6 would be a concern going forward in terms of pace.
Quote from: NAG1 on March 10, 2025, 03:19:49 PMStrange weekend at the top table with none of the games being massively competitive.
Think Sheedy hit the nail on the head last night, too close to championship and trying to do it as a balancing act while trying to prep isn't working for the spectacle.
For what its worth IMO:
Limerick - looked back to somewhere close to their fluent best, KH getting injured could be a big blow.
Galway - I didnt think they were as bad as they looked, had some decent play and missed a load of chances and if you want to build a team then Gavin Lee would be a good place to start.
Cork - looked so sharp with massive motivation from the final last year, so will be challenging very strongly this year.
KK - possibly worst KK I've seen in my lifetime.
Tipp - progressing but think they will be found out when push comes to shove in the championship, but on upward trajectory.
Clare - hard to know where they are at, not sure they pack enough punch up front without SO'D. Conlon at 6 would be a concern going forward in terms of pace.
This is so true, but aside from that they have a serious group of forwards, enough to trouble most teams.
TJ aside as I think he's done at this level, the brain will only get you so far now, but they've Eoin Cody, Adrian Mullen, John Donnelly and Mossy Keoghan in there.
I don't think they have a bad defence in Lawlor, the Blanchfields, Mikey Carey, Butler etc, it's just that their hurling is aimless and so haphazard that they play short only for to puck the ball down on top of a lad outnumbered in their forwards and cough up possession so easily.
They will rely heavily on certain individuals doing wondrous things whereas Limerick can be down some star players and the next lad in will know his job and do it to the desired level.
They'll get out of Leinster as the standard there is lower than in Munster, but at present you'd say Tipp, Limerick and Cork are well ahead of them with Clare about the same unless they can find a kick in the next few weeks.
You'd still never write the hoors off, but that was poor enough stuff yesterday again.
Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2025, 03:56:03 PMQuote from: NAG1 on March 10, 2025, 03:19:49 PMStrange weekend at the top table with none of the games being massively competitive.
Think Sheedy hit the nail on the head last night, too close to championship and trying to do it as a balancing act while trying to prep isn't working for the spectacle.
For what its worth IMO:
Limerick - looked back to somewhere close to their fluent best, KH getting injured could be a big blow.
Galway - I didnt think they were as bad as they looked, had some decent play and missed a load of chances and if you want to build a team then Gavin Lee would be a good place to start.
Cork - looked so sharp with massive motivation from the final last year, so will be challenging very strongly this year.
KK - possibly worst KK I've seen in my lifetime.
Tipp - progressing but think they will be found out when push comes to shove in the championship, but on upward trajectory.
Clare - hard to know where they are at, not sure they pack enough punch up front without SO'D. Conlon at 6 would be a concern going forward in terms of pace.
This is so true, but aside from that they have a serious group of forwards, enough to trouble most teams.
TJ aside as I think he's done at this level, the brain will only get you so far now, but they've Eoin Cody, Adrian Mullen, John Donnelly and Mossy Keoghan in there.
I don't think they have a bad defence in Lawlor, the Blanchfields, Mikey Carey, Butler etc, it's just that their hurling is aimless and so haphazard that they play short only for to puck the ball down on top of a lad outnumbered in their forwards and cough up possession so easily.
They will rely heavily on certain individuals doing wondrous things whereas Limerick can be down some star players and the next lad in will know his job and do it to the desired level.
They'll get out of Leinster as the standard there is lower than in Munster, but at present you'd say Tipp, Limerick and Cork are well ahead of them with Clare about the same unless they can find a kick in the next few weeks.
You'd still never write the hoors off, but that was poor enough stuff yesterday again.
What's striking about Limerick is their accuracy.
Quote from: seafoid on March 10, 2025, 06:02:59 PMQuote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2025, 03:56:03 PMQuote from: NAG1 on March 10, 2025, 03:19:49 PMStrange weekend at the top table with none of the games being massively competitive.
Think Sheedy hit the nail on the head last night, too close to championship and trying to do it as a balancing act while trying to prep isn't working for the spectacle.
For what its worth IMO:
Limerick - looked back to somewhere close to their fluent best, KH getting injured could be a big blow.
Galway - I didnt think they were as bad as they looked, had some decent play and missed a load of chances and if you want to build a team then Gavin Lee would be a good place to start.
Cork - looked so sharp with massive motivation from the final last year, so will be challenging very strongly this year.
KK - possibly worst KK I've seen in my lifetime.
Tipp - progressing but think they will be found out when push comes to shove in the championship, but on upward trajectory.
Clare - hard to know where they are at, not sure they pack enough punch up front without SO'D. Conlon at 6 would be a concern going forward in terms of pace.
This is so true, but aside from that they have a serious group of forwards, enough to trouble most teams.
TJ aside as I think he's done at this level, the brain will only get you so far now, but they've Eoin Cody, Adrian Mullen, John Donnelly and Mossy Keoghan in there.
I don't think they have a bad defence in Lawlor, the Blanchfields, Mikey Carey, Butler etc, it's just that their hurling is aimless and so haphazard that they play short only for to puck the ball down on top of a lad outnumbered in their forwards and cough up possession so easily.
They will rely heavily on certain individuals doing wondrous things whereas Limerick can be down some star players and the next lad in will know his job and do it to the desired level.
They'll get out of Leinster as the standard there is lower than in Munster, but at present you'd say Tipp, Limerick and Cork are well ahead of them with Clare about the same unless they can find a kick in the next few weeks.
You'd still never write the hoors off, but that was poor enough stuff yesterday again.
What's striking about Limerick is their accuracy.
They are accurate because they are so well drilled in what is expected from them in numerous scenarios and any deviation won't be tolerated.
It still sticks in my mind Kiely going buck daft at Aaron Guillane who had the audacity to try put a sideline over the bar in the dying seconds of the 2023 AI final with the win already in the bag.
That is deemed a waste of possession in Limerick.
Quote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2025, 08:30:01 PMQuote from: seafoid on March 10, 2025, 06:02:59 PMQuote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2025, 03:56:03 PMQuote from: NAG1 on March 10, 2025, 03:19:49 PMStrange weekend at the top table with none of the games being massively competitive.
Think Sheedy hit the nail on the head last night, too close to championship and trying to do it as a balancing act while trying to prep isn't working for the spectacle.
For what its worth IMO:
Limerick - looked back to somewhere close to their fluent best, KH getting injured could be a big blow.
Galway - I didnt think they were as bad as they looked, had some decent play and missed a load of chances and if you want to build a team then Gavin Lee would be a good place to start.
Cork - looked so sharp with massive motivation from the final last year, so will be challenging very strongly this year.
KK - possibly worst KK I've seen in my lifetime.
Tipp - progressing but think they will be found out when push comes to shove in the championship, but on upward trajectory.
Clare - hard to know where they are at, not sure they pack enough punch up front without SO'D. Conlon at 6 would be a concern going forward in terms of pace.
This is so true, but aside from that they have a serious group of forwards, enough to trouble most teams.
TJ aside as I think he's done at this level, the brain will only get you so far now, but they've Eoin Cody, Adrian Mullen, John Donnelly and Mossy Keoghan in there.
I don't think they have a bad defence in Lawlor, the Blanchfields, Mikey Carey, Butler etc, it's just that their hurling is aimless and so haphazard that they play short only for to puck the ball down on top of a lad outnumbered in their forwards and cough up possession so easily.
They will rely heavily on certain individuals doing wondrous things whereas Limerick can be down some star players and the next lad in will know his job and do it to the desired level.
They'll get out of Leinster as the standard there is lower than in Munster, but at present you'd say Tipp, Limerick and Cork are well ahead of them with Clare about the same unless they can find a kick in the next few weeks.
You'd still never write the hoors off, but that was poor enough stuff yesterday again.
What's striking about Limerick is their accuracy.
They are accurate because they are so well drilled in what is expected from them in numerous scenarios and any deviation won't be tolerated.
It still sticks in my mind Kiely going buck daft at Aaron Guillane who had the audacity to try put a sideline over the bar in the dying seconds of the 2023 AI final with the win already in the bag.
That is deemed a waste of possession in Limerick.
It's the training alright. When you see it live it's amazing.
Quote from: seafoid on March 12, 2025, 02:28:36 PMQuote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2025, 08:30:01 PMQuote from: seafoid on March 10, 2025, 06:02:59 PMQuote from: johnnycool on March 10, 2025, 03:56:03 PMQuote from: NAG1 on March 10, 2025, 03:19:49 PMStrange weekend at the top table with none of the games being massively competitive.
Think Sheedy hit the nail on the head last night, too close to championship and trying to do it as a balancing act while trying to prep isn't working for the spectacle.
For what its worth IMO:
Limerick - looked back to somewhere close to their fluent best, KH getting injured could be a big blow.
Galway - I didnt think they were as bad as they looked, had some decent play and missed a load of chances and if you want to build a team then Gavin Lee would be a good place to start.
Cork - looked so sharp with massive motivation from the final last year, so will be challenging very strongly this year.
KK - possibly worst KK I've seen in my lifetime.
Tipp - progressing but think they will be found out when push comes to shove in the championship, but on upward trajectory.
Clare - hard to know where they are at, not sure they pack enough punch up front without SO'D. Conlon at 6 would be a concern going forward in terms of pace.
This is so true, but aside from that they have a serious group of forwards, enough to trouble most teams.
TJ aside as I think he's done at this level, the brain will only get you so far now, but they've Eoin Cody, Adrian Mullen, John Donnelly and Mossy Keoghan in there.
I don't think they have a bad defence in Lawlor, the Blanchfields, Mikey Carey, Butler etc, it's just that their hurling is aimless and so haphazard that they play short only for to puck the ball down on top of a lad outnumbered in their forwards and cough up possession so easily.
They will rely heavily on certain individuals doing wondrous things whereas Limerick can be down some star players and the next lad in will know his job and do it to the desired level.
They'll get out of Leinster as the standard there is lower than in Munster, but at present you'd say Tipp, Limerick and Cork are well ahead of them with Clare about the same unless they can find a kick in the next few weeks.
You'd still never write the hoors off, but that was poor enough stuff yesterday again.
What's striking about Limerick is their accuracy.
They are accurate because they are so well drilled in what is expected from them in numerous scenarios and any deviation won't be tolerated.
It still sticks in my mind Kiely going buck daft at Aaron Guillane who had the audacity to try put a sideline over the bar in the dying seconds of the 2023 AI final with the win already in the bag.
That is deemed a waste of possession in Limerick.
It's the training alright. When you see it live it's amazing.
It's the players. Once in a generation squad. Like the great KK team. All about the players. Put in the work at underage and through the academies.
All they need now is 1 or 2 players coming through every year.
They can all play anywhere. Barry Nash could play corner forward and nobody would bat an eyelid. WOD could slot in No. 6. Adam English can play anywhere.
It's the players.
They have the size and the skill, at the start it looked more like they bullied teams in some areas of the pitch and their marquee players did their bit, but skill is up and down through that squad and you only have to appreciate how good they are..
They aint going nowhere yet and will take a knockout performance to see them put out
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2025, 04:24:54 PMThey have the size and the skill, at the start it looked more like they bullied teams in some areas of the pitch and their marquee players did their bit, but skill is up and down through that squad and you only have to appreciate how good they are..
They aint going nowhere yet and will take a knockout performance to see them put out
They'll certainly be about come the divvying out of the cups in both Munster and the AI although Cork do seem to have their number in the last few exchanges.
I'll stick my head out and say we'll be looking at Cork-Limerick Munster final and a Cork-Limerick AI final?
Cork need a Munster final win more than Limerick but the money would be on Limerick in an AI final.
I still have my reservations about Cork, but Clare have slipped back a bit, O'Donnell a huge loss and KK look to be disorganised.
Tipp will do well to come out of Munster.
Galway, Wex, Dublin would be the also rans at the minute.
Quote from: johnnycool on March 13, 2025, 12:21:49 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on March 12, 2025, 04:24:54 PMThey have the size and the skill, at the start it looked more like they bullied teams in some areas of the pitch and their marquee players did their bit, but skill is up and down through that squad and you only have to appreciate how good they are..
They aint going nowhere yet and will take a knockout performance to see them put out
They'll certainly be about come the divvying out of the cups in both Munster and the AI although Cork do seem to have their number in the last few exchanges.
I'll stick my head out and say we'll be looking at Cork-Limerick Munster final and a Cork-Limerick AI final?
Cork need a Munster final win more than Limerick but the money would be on Limerick in an AI final.
I still have my reservations about Cork, but Clare have slipped back a bit, O'Donnell a huge loss and KK look to be disorganised.
Tipp will do well to come out of Munster.
Galway, Wex, Dublin would be the also rans at the minute.
Leinster could be won by Galway. Agree on Tipp in Munster. Clare, Limerick and Cork look more likely.
Does anyone have any idea when the Munster shc tickets go on sale? I'm hoping to go to Clare v Tipp in Ennis this year.
Quote from: ardtole on March 15, 2025, 07:06:50 AMDoes anyone have any idea when the Munster shc tickets go on sale? I'm hoping to go to Clare v Tipp in Ennis this year.
Do they go on ticketmaster? Would imagine it goes through the clubs? Probably not depending on the ground
Kilkenny haven't gone away you know
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 15, 2025, 09:56:20 PMKilkenny haven't gone away you know
The thing is rigged
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 15, 2025, 09:49:41 AMQuote from: ardtole on March 15, 2025, 07:06:50 AMDoes anyone have any idea when the Munster shc tickets go on sale? I'm hoping to go to Clare v Tipp in Ennis this year.
Do they go on ticketmaster? Would imagine it goes through the clubs? Probably not depending on the ground
I got 4 tickets for Cork v Limerick last year in Supervalu, I'm looking for 4 this year for Clare v Tipp in Ennis.
Could be harder this year with the smaller capacity in Ennis, but in recent years the Tipp support hasn't travelled in great numbers.
I'd like to know when they go on sale, just to give me the best opportunity of getting them.
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 15, 2025, 09:56:20 PMKilkenny haven't gone away you know
Limerick looked like they had put a serious week of training in ahead of that game, they were so off it in every department.
Clare and Wexford are gone to Div1B.
We'd hope to see one of those in the Ards/Mournes next year.
Tipp look to have one foot in the league final with the visit of Clare in the last round. Whether Clare decide to put down a marker on this young Tipp team for later on in the year remains to be seen, but it's a nothing game for Clare.
Galway are down in Supervalu pairc to meet a much fancied Cork. I'd expect Cork to come out of that one to set up a Tipp V Cork league final.
Both would like a national title for their efforts as it didn't do Clare any harm last year, problem is they're both out in the first round of Munster 2 weeks later in must win games, Clare v Cork and Tipp v Limerick.
Whoever loses there will be on the backfoot throughout the Munster campaign.
Interesting comments by Jamie Wall in relation to the current lopsided nature of the Munster/Leinster championships as he believes even Waterford would qualify for at least a third spot if they were in Leinster.
He may not be wrong, the strength in Munster is also it's weakness as they've bumper crowds, generating huge wealth which goes back into their own counties, so as much as they bemoan this disparity there's no will from within Munster to change it.
An open draw for all 11/12 counties into two pots is the obvious answer but that won't get a look in down in Munster.
Offaly are promoted to Div1A, but it's not just totally decided who will join them.
Waterford have the upper hand at the minute, and may need to secure a point at least with the Biffos visiting them this weekend, Dublin have an outside chance as you'd expect them to see off Laois without much fuss and go on 8 points along with Waterford.
Carlow you'd also expect to go onto 8 points if they beat relegated Westmeath in their last game, so if Waterford don't beat the Biffos you've three teams on 8 points. Waterford have the superior score difference at the minute, but both Dublin and Carlow could add to their substantially in the last round.
Interesting game next week in Div2.
Donegal v Derry is a relegation decider in all but name.
Peter Owens is on the whistle so he'll let them at it. ;)
Tyrone are down and have Kerry visiting, so hard not to see Kerry coming away with the points to secure their Div2 status.
Quote from: johnnycool on March 18, 2025, 09:50:43 AMClare and Wexford are gone to Div1B.
We'd hope to see one of those in the Ards/Mournes next year.
Tipp look to have one foot in the league final with the visit of Clare in the last round. Whether Clare decide to put down a marker on this young Tipp team for later on in the year remains to be seen, but it's a nothing game for Clare.
Galway are down in Supervalu pairc to meet a much fancied Cork. I'd expect Cork to come out of that one to set up a Tipp V Cork league final.
Both would like a national title for their efforts as it didn't do Clare any harm last year, problem is they're both out in the first round of Munster 2 weeks later in must win games, Clare v Cork and Tipp v Limerick.
Whoever loses there will be on the backfoot throughout the Munster campaign.
Interesting comments by Jamie Wall in relation to the current lopsided nature of the Munster/Leinster championships as he believes even Waterford would qualify for at least a third spot if they were in Leinster.
He may not be wrong, the strength in Munster is also it's weakness as they've bumper crowds, generating huge wealth which goes back into their own counties, so as much as they bemoan this disparity there's no will from within Munster to change it.
An open draw for all 11/12 counties into two pots is the obvious answer but that won't get a look in down in Munster.
Offaly are promoted to Div1A, but it's not just totally decided who will join them.
Waterford have the upper hand at the minute, and may need to secure a point at least with the Biffos visiting them this weekend, Dublin have an outside chance as you'd expect them to see off Laois without much fuss and go on 8 points along with Waterford.
Carlow you'd also expect to go onto 8 points if they beat relegated Westmeath in their last game, so if Waterford don't beat the Biffos you've three teams on 8 points. Waterford have the superior score difference at the minute, but both Dublin and Carlow could add to their substantially in the last round.
Interesting game next week in Div2.
Donegal v Derry is a relegation decider in all but name.
Peter Owens is on the whistle so he'll let them at it. ;)
Tyrone are down and have Kerry visiting, so hard not to see Kerry coming away with the points to secure their Div2 status.
Is there a head to head first before the score difference is used? Carlow beating Waterford should put them above them (should Waterford lose) but below Dublin, so if Waterford lose to Offaly (could happen) and Dublin win they'll (Dublin) go through, but if Dublin (highly unlikely) lose to Laois, and Carlow win, they go up, again providing both Waterford and Dublin lose..
The results this year have a scent of Ulster teams in Div 1 currently
It's head to head if it's two teams, overall scoring difference if it's three teams or more
Quote from: Saffrongael on March 19, 2025, 03:07:46 PMIt's head to head if it's two teams, overall scoring difference if it's three teams or more
yes,
2 on the same points is head to head, 3 or more is score difference.
After Donegal beating Kerry it was looking good for them then they took a tanking from Derry. Maybe Kerry a bit weaker this year?
Normal service resumed for waterford beating offaly and westmeath maybe surprising a bit against carlow.
Final tables.
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Galway aren't good... (though cork are very good)
As I've said the game is bent, there is absolutely no way Wexford beat Limerick in any fashion.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2025, 10:48:21 PMAs I've said the game is bent, there is absolutely no way Wexford beat Limerick in any fashion.
Limerick had a few household names playing too, don't know how thrilled they would be with scoring 1-12 no matter if it was a dead rubber or not
Tomorrow will be the same, teams are trying and teams won't
Hopefully Brian Hayes injury not too bad, could be a bad one. He would be a big miss
The Offaly lads red card needs rescinded right away, awful decision.
And the Waterford lad needs his wings clipped for the way he went down, he should be embarrassed.
Tommy Walsh is right, too much feigning injuries now in the hurling. Lets call it for what it is.
Quote from: johnnycool on March 24, 2025, 08:14:56 AMThe Offaly lads red card needs rescinded right away, awful decision.
And the Waterford lad needs his wings clipped for the way he went down, he should be embarrassed.
Tommy Walsh is right, too much feigning injuries now in the hurling. Lets call it for what it is.
Seen that, yellow at best. Did the ref give that on advice or what he seen?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2025, 11:16:17 AMQuote from: johnnycool on March 24, 2025, 08:14:56 AMThe Offaly lads red card needs rescinded right away, awful decision.
And the Waterford lad needs his wings clipped for the way he went down, he should be embarrassed.
Tommy Walsh is right, too much feigning injuries now in the hurling. Lets call it for what it is.
Seen that, yellow at best. Did the ref give that on advice or what he seen?
The clip I saw the ref was very quick on the whistle, it was a foul alright and he was quick to the scene so must have been pretty close to it, but jesus, the way the Waterford lad went down you'd have thought he caught him full on the head, wasn't even close.
Relief for Cork as Hayes injury not season ender
https://www.echolive.ie/corksport/arid-41599540.html
Quote from: johnnycool on March 24, 2025, 01:22:58 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2025, 11:16:17 AMQuote from: johnnycool on March 24, 2025, 08:14:56 AMThe Offaly lads red card needs rescinded right away, awful decision.
And the Waterford lad needs his wings clipped for the way he went down, he should be embarrassed.
Tommy Walsh is right, too much feigning injuries now in the hurling. Lets call it for what it is.
Seen that, yellow at best. Did the ref give that on advice or what he seen?
The clip I saw the ref was very quick on the whistle, it was a foul alright and he was quick to the scene so must have been pretty close to it, but jesus, the way the Waterford lad went down you'd have thought he caught him full on the head, wasn't even close.
Skullduggery.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2025, 11:16:17 AMQuote from: johnnycool on March 24, 2025, 08:14:56 AMThe Offaly lads red card needs rescinded right away, awful decision.
And the Waterford lad needs his wings clipped for the way he went down, he should be embarrassed.
Tommy Walsh is right, too much feigning injuries now in the hurling. Lets call it for what it is.
Seen that, yellow at best. Did the ref give that on advice or what he seen?
SS called it from the line.
Offaly guys rightly incensed with the penalty award that he didn't produce a red for that and were questioning JM what the difference was in the two tackles.
IMO both yellows, though I'm not even sure the first one was a yellow.
Quote from: NAG1 on March 25, 2025, 01:12:26 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on March 24, 2025, 11:16:17 AMQuote from: johnnycool on March 24, 2025, 08:14:56 AMThe Offaly lads red card needs rescinded right away, awful decision.
And the Waterford lad needs his wings clipped for the way he went down, he should be embarrassed.
Tommy Walsh is right, too much feigning injuries now in the hurling. Lets call it for what it is.
Seen that, yellow at best. Did the ref give that on advice or what he seen?
SS called it from the line.
Offaly guys rightly incensed with the penalty award that he didn't produce a red for that and was questioning JM what the difference was in the two tackles.
IMO both yellows, though I'm not even sure the first one was a yellow.
There was a tackle that looked red, but that one was not even close
Lads, what are the chances of picking up tickets for Clare & Tipp in Ennis? Unlikely any are release on public sale I assume.
Quote from: lfdown2 on March 27, 2025, 11:51:46 AMLads, what are the chances of picking up tickets for Clare & Tipp in Ennis? Unlikely any are release on public sale I assume.
If Maureen can't get you tickets then no one can.
Quote from: johnnycool on March 27, 2025, 12:14:26 PMQuote from: lfdown2 on March 27, 2025, 11:51:46 AMLads, what are the chances of picking up tickets for Clare & Tipp in Ennis? Unlikely any are release on public sale I assume.
If Maureen can't get you tickets then no one can.
True Johnny!
Surprised you can't pull some strings?!
Cody and you be buddies ;) surely he'd sort ya lol
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 27, 2025, 11:22:13 PMSurprised you can't pull some strings?!
Cody and you be buddies ;) surely he'd sort ya lol
Brian?
He did a juvenile presentation for me a few years back. Good lad but he'd be the last boy I'd be asking for tickets to a Munster championship game.
He loves his hurling, but only when Kilkenny or the Village are involved. You'd get a pretty short response if you asked him to pull a few strings for tickets to see Clare v Tipp.
Are my eyes deceiving me?
Are we playing the NHL Div2 final on a pitch with no 65 metre lines marked on it?
Unreal
Quote from: johnnycool on March 29, 2025, 01:59:19 PMAre my eyes deceiving me?
Are we playing the NHL Div2 final on a pitch with no 65 metre lines marked on it?
Unreal
https://www.irishnews.com/gaa/hurling-camogie/the-game-of-hurling-deserves-better-ronan-sheehan-takes-swipe-at-gaa-over-final-venues-as-down-claim-division-two-title-X2THG4EI5FDZLMY2NTX2ZDDTRI/
Sheehan is bang on the money here.
Finals ahould be in CP.
Lipservice to hurling once again.
Willie Maher should have been on the case.
Quote from: marty34 on March 30, 2025, 02:15:32 PMFinals ahould be in CP.
Lipservice to hurling once again.
Willie Maher should have been on the case.
His predecessor was in our place a few weeks back and he didn't paint a good picture of Croke Parks attitude to hurling development in the lower tiers etc, he struggled to secure the funds for helmets and hurls to take with him for schools that didn't have even those and he was expected to go in and run coaching sessions.
Token gestures and a photo op is all they were interested in.
No point speaking out now once you are out of the job either.
Quote from: marty34 on March 30, 2025, 02:15:32 PMFinals ahould be in CP.
Lipservice to hurling once again.
Willie Maher should have been on the case.
Really? If it was in CP would they get anymore than the 45k in Cork? Not many Id say for a league final. All I hear this week is why the football was played in CP and not in Limerick. No pleasing everyone!
Quote from: johnnycool on March 29, 2025, 01:59:19 PMAre my eyes deceiving me?
Are we playing the NHL Div2 final on a pitch with no 65 metre lines marked on it?
Unreal
Any GAA club ground that doesn't have the 65s lined out should have all funding blocked.
Quote from: Ash Smoker on April 03, 2025, 10:42:56 AMQuote from: johnnycool on March 29, 2025, 01:59:19 PMAre my eyes deceiving me?
Are we playing the NHL Div2 final on a pitch with no 65 metre lines marked on it?
Unreal
Any GAA club ground that doesn't have the 65s lined out should have all funding blocked.
I coach u14 ladies football in Antrim and there's a fair few grounds that don't have 65 lines on the pitches we travel to.
I live in North Antrim and would watch a lot of hurling and I think so far this season I've seen two pitches with the 40m line marked out on them on my travels.
Easy win for Cork today. Their supporters are getting giddy and hopefully getting ahead of themselves!
Cork for the hurling and Kerry for football are two foregone conclusions.
Tipp rolled over today, no fight whatsoever from them which may be an issue for Cahill and Bevans if they don't sort that out in two weeks time.
They could be looking at another year of not getting out of Munster and the game against Clare could be the one to seal their fate.
Cork look impressive, no doubt about that, they have probably the best marking corner back in the business in Sean O'Donoghue as young Darragh McCarty found out yesterday and their goal scoring ability is unreal.
How they get on in Ennis will tell us more about their real credentials, I do expect them to come out of there with the win, but Clare will be marching into them in a physical manner a lot more than Tipp or anyone else has done in 2025 to date and we'll see how they cope with that.
Limerick and maybe Kilkenny will be looking for chinks in their armour for later in the year.
The preseason run outs are over now, time for the real stuff
Cork are now 11/8 All Ireland favourites with Paddy Power.
Quote from: johnnycool on April 07, 2025, 08:52:25 AMTipp rolled over today, no fight whatsoever from them which may be an issue for Cahill and Bevans if they don't sort that out in two weeks time.
They could be looking at another year of not getting out of Munster and the game against Clare could be the one to seal their fate.
Cork look impressive, no doubt about that, they have probably the best marking corner back in the business in Sean O'Donoghue as young Darragh McCarty found out yesterday and their goal scoring ability is unreal.
How they get on in Ennis will tell us more about their real credentials, I do expect them to come out of there with the win, but Clare will be marching into them in a physical manner a lot more than Tipp or anyone else has done in 2025 to date and we'll see how they cope with that.
Limerick and maybe Kilkenny will be looking for chinks in their armour for later in the year.
The preseason run outs are over now, time for the real stuff
O'Donoghue is a liability, there are plenty better corner-backs than him in the game. Too indisciplined and partial to getting sent off, e.g. last year v Clare. One of the few weak links in the side IMO.
Quote from: mouview on April 08, 2025, 03:53:25 PMQuote from: johnnycool on April 07, 2025, 08:52:25 AMTipp rolled over today, no fight whatsoever from them which may be an issue for Cahill and Bevans if they don't sort that out in two weeks time.
They could be looking at another year of not getting out of Munster and the game against Clare could be the one to seal their fate.
Cork look impressive, no doubt about that, they have probably the best marking corner back in the business in Sean O'Donoghue as young Darragh McCarty found out yesterday and their goal scoring ability is unreal.
How they get on in Ennis will tell us more about their real credentials, I do expect them to come out of there with the win, but Clare will be marching into them in a physical manner a lot more than Tipp or anyone else has done in 2025 to date and we'll see how they cope with that.
Limerick and maybe Kilkenny will be looking for chinks in their armour for later in the year.
The preseason run outs are over now, time for the real stuff
O'Donoghue is a liability, there are plenty better corner-backs than him in the game. Too indisciplined and partial to getting sent off, e.g. last year v Clare. One of the few weak links in the side IMO.
There's not another county in the country wouldn't take him in a heartbeat.
Quote from: johnnycool on April 08, 2025, 04:11:33 PMQuote from: mouview on April 08, 2025, 03:53:25 PMQuote from: johnnycool on April 07, 2025, 08:52:25 AMTipp rolled over today, no fight whatsoever from them which may be an issue for Cahill and Bevans if they don't sort that out in two weeks time.
They could be looking at another year of not getting out of Munster and the game against Clare could be the one to seal their fate.
Cork look impressive, no doubt about that, they have probably the best marking corner back in the business in Sean O'Donoghue as young Darragh McCarty found out yesterday and their goal scoring ability is unreal.
How they get on in Ennis will tell us more about their real credentials, I do expect them to come out of there with the win, but Clare will be marching into them in a physical manner a lot more than Tipp or anyone else has done in 2025 to date and we'll see how they cope with that.
Limerick and maybe Kilkenny will be looking for chinks in their armour for later in the year.
The preseason run outs are over now, time for the real stuff
O'Donoghue is a liability, there are plenty better corner-backs than him in the game. Too indisciplined and partial to getting sent off, e.g. last year v Clare. One of the few weak links in the side IMO.
There's not another county in the country wouldn't take him in a heartbeat.
Easily one of the stand out players in their team this year and probably the best in his position in the country at the moment.
Tipp got a bit of a cruel lesson.
Few opportunities to run in for goal attempts in the early stages which they turned down and took a point, Cork down the other end with the same kind of opportunity went for the jugular and finished the chances with goals. Seems to be something they have worked on and it is so effective.
Cork with goal. Game over already. Cork justifying the hype. Limerick won't get near them.
Ref double booking men especially the Clare corner back a sign he loosing control of the game.Cork are a unlikeable outfit.
Embarassing dive that
Cork should won this easy, but there macho approach and both teams continously off the ball shoving and pushing cost them the game.They were 12 up and couldn't hold there displince. Ref played for a draw here too.
Some weekend for the Rebels :o
That one will feel like a loss for sure. Thought McInerney was fouled before the final free in for Cork.
Quote from: LarryStiles on April 20, 2025, 02:14:50 PMCork with goal. Game over already. Cork justifying the hype. Limerick won't get near them.
I bet you didn't think this would be proved wrong so quickly!
What a game. The Munster championship can't be beat. I can't beleive Clare came back from 13 points down in that game.
It's immense, the sheer determination by Clare who were pretty toothless all league, brought about a performance that would grace the last day of the Hurling championship
I wonder did Pat Ryan tell his team to slow it down at half time? It will help quell the hype about Cork.
If Tipp continue to bring the ball into tackles they'll lose..
Edit: Limerick goal.. not looking good
A draw in both games! Fair play Tipp and the new lad will be sore tomorrow for Tipp but he'll be the better for it, decent prospect
2 classic matches .
Looking at those Munster matches today and Galway are miles off the pace!
We will probably finish 4th in Leinster this year.
I'm not sure if Cork's luck is improving. The final play of the All-Ireland final last year a free could have been awarded to Cork, allowing them to force a replay, however the referee chose not to give it. The last play of Sunday's game the free was awarded and Cork got the draw.
No sour grapes intended(I was very please to see Clare win another championship). Just highlighting how so much is determined by referee judgement calls.
Has hurling never considered distinguishing between fouls which deny a scoring opportunity and possession fouls? In my opinion, the latter should be indirect frees.
A free is a free, be it a technical foul or a physical foul, Cork can find themselves lucky that there was no hooter in this case, as the game was up on the Clare point.
The beauty of hurling is bar the hand pass, which was well marshalled in the Limerick game, no one is saying it needs changed, or tweaked.
The ref's across the board at all levels need to crack down on it if the can, steps also, if I run 6 steps around midfield the ref will blow, but if I'm bearing down on goal I'm 'allowed' an extra few as I'm generally getting pulled back.
The calls yesterday on the hand pass did eventually, in that game, make players think
Other than that the game is played by lads that don't hold their faces when they've been hit somewhere else
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2025, 01:11:25 PMA free is a free, be it a technical foul or a physical foul, Cork can find themselves lucky that there was no hooter in this case, as the game was up on the Clare point.
The beauty of hurling is bar the hand pass, which was well marshalled in the Limerick game, no one is saying it needs changed, or tweaked.
The ref's across the board at all levels need to crack down on it if the can, steps also, if I run 6 steps around midfield the ref will blow, but if I'm bearing down on goal I'm 'allowed' an extra few as I'm generally getting pulled back.
The calls yesterday on the hand pass did eventually, in that game, make players think
Other than that the game is played by lads that don't hold their faces when they've been hit somewhere else
Liam Sheedy on the Sunday Game last night praising the Tipp forward for taking his 'five' steps before striking for goal. Doesn't help.
Quote from: Sportacus on April 21, 2025, 02:14:34 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2025, 01:11:25 PMA free is a free, be it a technical foul or a physical foul, Cork can find themselves lucky that there was no hooter in this case, as the game was up on the Clare point.
The beauty of hurling is bar the hand pass, which was well marshalled in the Limerick game, no one is saying it needs changed, or tweaked.
The ref's across the board at all levels need to crack down on it if the can, steps also, if I run 6 steps around midfield the ref will blow, but if I'm bearing down on goal I'm 'allowed' an extra few as I'm generally getting pulled back.
The calls yesterday on the hand pass did eventually, in that game, make players think
Other than that the game is played by lads that don't hold their faces when they've been hit somewhere else
Liam Sheedy on the Sunday Game last night praising the Tipp forward for taking his 'five' steps before striking for goal. Doesn't help.
Yeah he'd need to read the rules first lol.. 5 is pretty fair though ;D
Quote from: EoinW on April 21, 2025, 12:48:22 PMI'm not sure if Cork's luck is improving. The final play of the All-Ireland final last year a free could have been awarded to Cork, allowing them to force a replay, however the referee chose not to give it. The last play of Sunday's game the free was awarded and Cork got the draw.
In the last play the Clare defender was clearly being fouled by a couple of Cork forwards. He panicked and handpassed it to nobody allowing Cork the turnover. The ref was looking to make it a draw.
Quote from: Cyril Farrell fan on April 20, 2025, 06:21:34 PMLooking at those Munster matches today and Galway are miles off the pace!
We will probably finish 4th in Leinster this year.
Only thing is the standard in Leinster is poor.
It's a good job Galway are not in Munster this year.
Quote from: galwayman on April 21, 2025, 10:34:50 PMQuote from: Cyril Farrell fan on April 20, 2025, 06:21:34 PMLooking at those Munster matches today and Galway are miles off the pace!
We will probably finish 4th in Leinster this year.
Only thing is the standard in Leinster is poor.
It's a good job Galway are not in Munster this year.
Maybe a couple of proper hammerings would wake up those at the top table in Galway.
Quote from: Cyril Farrell fan on April 22, 2025, 10:06:10 AMQuote from: galwayman on April 21, 2025, 10:34:50 PMQuote from: Cyril Farrell fan on April 20, 2025, 06:21:34 PMLooking at those Munster matches today and Galway are miles off the pace!
We will probably finish 4th in Leinster this year.
Only thing is the standard in Leinster is poor.
It's a good job Galway are not in Munster this year.
Maybe a couple of proper hammerings would wake up those at the top table in Galway.
So what are the top table to do? Individually coach the players to improve their first touch? Harangue them until their hunger and intensity increase? Get some of them to put on a growth spurt and gain a few more pounds of muscle? Are the same top table equally letting down the football squad? If you don't like the top table, go and do something about it, a-la John Kiely in 2008.
this is worth a read for any anoraks out there!
https://flynners.com/2025/04/21/turnovers-made-tipperary-v-limerick-a-beautiful-game-of-chaos/
Quote from: mouview on April 22, 2025, 12:10:19 PMQuote from: Cyril Farrell fan on April 22, 2025, 10:06:10 AMQuote from: galwayman on April 21, 2025, 10:34:50 PMQuote from: Cyril Farrell fan on April 20, 2025, 06:21:34 PMLooking at those Munster matches today and Galway are miles off the pace!
We will probably finish 4th in Leinster this year.
Only thing is the standard in Leinster is poor.
It's a good job Galway are not in Munster this year.
Maybe a couple of proper hammerings would wake up those at the top table in Galway.
So what are the top table to do? Individually coach the players to improve their first touch? Harangue them until their hunger and intensity increase? Get some of them to put on a growth spurt and gain a few more pounds of muscle? Are the same top table equally letting down the football squad? If you don't like the top table, go and do something about it, a-la John Kiely in 2008.
Galway are way behind in S&C for their underage teams but the foundations are now in place to improve upon that with Des Ryan now back in the fold.
https://www.universityofgalway.ie/about-us/news-and-events/news-archive/2024/may/university-of-galway-appoints-new-director-of-sport-and-physical-wellbeing.html (https://www.universityofgalway.ie/about-us/news-and-events/news-archive/2024/may/university-of-galway-appoints-new-director-of-sport-and-physical-wellbeing.html)
Kilkenny hurling supporters...
https://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/gaa/1786157/galway-fan-calls-out-selfish-and-aggressive-kilkenny-hurling-supporter.html
Dubs are ahead of Wexford by 4
3-21 to 3-17
Galway 1-8 Biffos 1-5
It ended Galway 2-25 Offaly 1-14
It's a disgrace that a Wexford ref is allowed to referee Galway two weeks before we play them. He gave Daithi Burke and Micheál Donoghue red cards. Burke is out for that match. Lee Chin will have a field day.
Wexford hard done by with the 'penalty save' by Fanning. Great stop but, from the replays, it looked as if the ball didn't cross the goal line.
The ref. was standing out at an angle gave the goal. That brought the game back to a draw. A crucial moment in the second half. Keith R. said the umpires, who were in a better position to see, said the ball didn't cross the line.
Regardless, a good second win for Dublin in a relatively tight game. They are ticking over nicely and O'Ceallachain will be happy with their start in Leinster. Galway and Dublin will now be a big game.
Lee Chin is some operator. Caught some puck outs - a great target/outlet for the long bll. Only thing is that Wexford ould need another Lee Chin. One time in the second half in a corner back position, he blocked the ball, football style, with his hands. He had lost his hurl. It was like Superman. He missed a few relatively handy frees near the end but kept Wexford in it at times.
Quote from: Cyril Farrell fan on April 26, 2025, 02:21:14 PMKilkenny hurling supporters...
https://www.kilkennypeople.ie/news/gaa/1786157/galway-fan-calls-out-selfish-and-aggressive-kilkenny-hurling-supporter.html
Kilkenny supporters are an obnoxious shower.They be out the gate at half time when meet Munster opposition.
Waterford will beat Clare. 2/1 to win. Cork will hammer Tipp.
Quote from: Cyril Farrell fan on April 26, 2025, 11:30:57 PMIt's a disgrace that a Wexford ref is allowed to referee Galway two weeks before we play them. He gave Daithi Burke and Micheál Donoghue red cards. Burke is out for that match. Lee Chin will have a field day.
As a general rule, it's a conflict of interest to have a ref from the county of the next fixture.
However, Galway can have no complaints about the red. When the half time whistle blew Burke pulled down on Duignan and broke a hurl over has head/neck/shoulder. It might be acceptable in Galway club hurling, but it's a red all day at inter county.
The goal given for the penalty in the Wexford game is criminal, a huge mistake by the officials which could have changed the result
Waterford bet looking good. Clare won't be out of munster this year. O'Donnell is a big loss.
Waterford now 12/5
Clare will win by 8 or 9
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2025, 03:01:16 PMClare will win by 8 or 9
I'll take that back.. Waterford are pulling off a decent win here
That hanging ball in the air was a bad goal to give away. Clare defender wasn't even looking at it.
Yeah, think he thought like everyone else the ball was going wide.. Clare were stifled that whole second half.
Waterford actually scored more in the second half against a sizeable breeze, Clare looked to continue, with the breeze, to work the ball instead of playing direct
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on April 27, 2025, 12:35:01 PMQuote from: Cyril Farrell fan on April 26, 2025, 11:30:57 PMIt's a disgrace that a Wexford ref is allowed to referee Galway two weeks before we play them. He gave Daithi Burke and Micheál Donoghue red cards. Burke is out for that match. Lee Chin will have a field day.
As a general rule, it's a conflict of interest to have a ref from the county of the next fixture.
However, Galway can have no complaints about the red. When the half time whistle blew Burke pulled down on Duignan and broke a hurl over has head/neck/shoulder. It might be acceptable in Galway club hurling, but it's a red all day at inter county.
Open to correction but the half-time whistle hadn't gone, (why Owens didn't blow when the puck-out was in the air, only he will know), and Dathi was competing for the ball legitimately as it dropped.
As I said previously, Clare a very limited outfit who lucked it big time last season.
Quote from: mouview on April 27, 2025, 04:04:54 PMQuote from: Bord na Mona man on April 27, 2025, 12:35:01 PMQuote from: Cyril Farrell fan on April 26, 2025, 11:30:57 PMIt's a disgrace that a Wexford ref is allowed to referee Galway two weeks before we play them. He gave Daithi Burke and Micheál Donoghue red cards. Burke is out for that match. Lee Chin will have a field day.
As a general rule, it's a conflict of interest to have a ref from the county of the next fixture.
However, Galway can have no complaints about the red. When the half time whistle blew Burke pulled down on Duignan and broke a hurl over has head/neck/shoulder. It might be acceptable in Galway club hurling, but it's a red all day at inter county.
Open to correction but the half-time whistle hadn't gone, (why Owens didn't blow when the puck-out was in the air, only he will know), and Dathi was competing for the ball legitimately as it dropped.
As I said previously, Clare a very limited outfit who lucked it big time last season.
That last statement is pure, unadulterated bullshite...
Going to be a long day for Tipp no
Quote from: johnnycool on April 27, 2025, 04:14:18 PMQuote from: mouview on April 27, 2025, 04:04:54 PMQuote from: Bord na Mona man on April 27, 2025, 12:35:01 PMQuote from: Cyril Farrell fan on April 26, 2025, 11:30:57 PMIt's a disgrace that a Wexford ref is allowed to referee Galway two weeks before we play them. He gave Daithi Burke and Micheál Donoghue red cards. Burke is out for that match. Lee Chin will have a field day.
As a general rule, it's a conflict of interest to have a ref from the county of the next fixture.
However, Galway can have no complaints about the red. When the half time whistle blew Burke pulled down on Duignan and broke a hurl over has head/neck/shoulder. It might be acceptable in Galway club hurling, but it's a red all day at inter county.
Open to correction but the half-time whistle hadn't gone, (why Owens didn't blow when the puck-out was in the air, only he will know), and Dathi was competing for the ball legitimately as it dropped.
As I said previously, Clare a very limited outfit who lucked it big time last season.
That last statement is pure, unadulterated bullshite...
Going to be a long day for Tipp no
No it's not. Clare were further away from Limerick than ever last year, no way would they have beaten them in an AI final. Why Kilkenny didn't put them away in the second half of the semi', only they will know. Barring Kelly and O'Donnell, I doubt they have any other player that would make a best XV of the country.
Quote from: mouview on April 27, 2025, 04:24:16 PMQuote from: johnnycool on April 27, 2025, 04:14:18 PMQuote from: mouview on April 27, 2025, 04:04:54 PMQuote from: Bord na Mona man on April 27, 2025, 12:35:01 PMQuote from: Cyril Farrell fan on April 26, 2025, 11:30:57 PMIt's a disgrace that a Wexford ref is allowed to referee Galway two weeks before we play them. He gave Daithi Burke and Micheál Donoghue red cards. Burke is out for that match. Lee Chin will have a field day.
As a general rule, it's a conflict of interest to have a ref from the county of the next fixture.
However, Galway can have no complaints about the red. When the half time whistle blew Burke pulled down on Duignan and broke a hurl over has head/neck/shoulder. It might be acceptable in Galway club hurling, but it's a red all day at inter county.
Open to correction but the half-time whistle hadn't gone, (why Owens didn't blow when the puck-out was in the air, only he will know), and Dathi was competing for the ball legitimately as it dropped.
As I said previously, Clare a very limited outfit who lucked it big time last season.
That last statement is pure, unadulterated bullshite...
Going to be a long day for Tipp no
No it's not. Clare were further away from Limerick than ever last year, no way would they have beaten them in an AI final. Why Kilkenny didn't put them away in the second half of the semi', only they will know. Barring Kelly and O'Donnell, I doubt they have any other player that would make a best XV of the country.
Kelly and O'Donnell are two exceptional hurlers though. Without them Clare are not the same. Clare were were also without their fullback Cleary and half back Ryan.
Did they show the incident MaCarthy got sent off for. I missed the start of the match? Was it a fair sending off?
Quote from: Capt Pat on April 27, 2025, 04:34:55 PMDid they show the incident MaCarthy got sent off for. I missed the start of the match? Was it a fair sending off?
Haven't seen it properly but I think he caught him in the balls.. I'm sure he didn't start it but he was certainly caught for it..
Thought the last day out that he'd been given a handy touch wiyy try h no real reducer type tackle put on him..
No, red card job done, buck eejit
The cork fella got away with one too.
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2025, 04:47:26 PMThe cork fella got away with one too.
In the lead up to the red?
How come the manager can bollock the linesman in hurling, but Kieran McGeeney gets a card for doing this?
So i suppose everybody gonna blame the ref for a players idiotic move.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2025, 04:51:00 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2025, 04:47:26 PMThe cork fella got away with one too.
In the lead up to the red?
The one John McGrath got in the stomach. It was a bit later in the half.
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2025, 06:11:37 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2025, 04:51:00 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2025, 04:47:26 PMThe cork fella got away with one too.
In the lead up to the red?
The one John McGrath got in the stomach. It was a bit later in the half.
Ah, must have missed that myself. Think Cork would have won regardless but that's so self inflicted that he can have no complaints and plenty of apologies to his team mates
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2025, 06:14:10 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2025, 06:11:37 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2025, 04:51:00 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2025, 04:47:26 PMThe cork fella got away with one too.
In the lead up to the red?
The one John McGrath got in the stomach. It was a bit later in the half.
Ah, must have missed that myself. Think Cork would have won regardless but that's so self inflicted that he can have no complaints and plenty of apologies to his team mates
The lad is only 19 or something so ease up on him FFS..
The GAA do have to come down hard on the dig to the balls. It's getting all too common.
Quote from: johnnycool on April 27, 2025, 06:31:02 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2025, 06:14:10 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2025, 06:11:37 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2025, 04:51:00 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2025, 04:47:26 PMThe cork fella got away with one too.
In the lead up to the red?
The one John McGrath got in the stomach. It was a bit later in the half.
Ah, must have missed that myself. Think Cork would have won regardless but that's so self inflicted that he can have no complaints and plenty of apologies to his team mates
The lad is only 19 or something so ease up on him FFS..
The GAA do have to come down hard on the dig to the balls. It's getting all too common.
I'm not going tough on the lad but he'll have to deal with it as his own supporters will be worse
Quote from: mouview on April 27, 2025, 04:04:54 PMQuote from: Bord na Mona man on April 27, 2025, 12:35:01 PMQuote from: Cyril Farrell fan on April 26, 2025, 11:30:57 PMIt's a disgrace that a Wexford ref is allowed to referee Galway two weeks before we play them. He gave Daithi Burke and Micheál Donoghue red cards. Burke is out for that match. Lee Chin will have a field day.
As a general rule, it's a conflict of interest to have a ref from the county of the next fixture.
However, Galway can have no complaints about the red. When the half time whistle blew Burke pulled down on Duignan and broke a hurl over has head/neck/shoulder. It might be acceptable in Galway club hurling, but it's a red all day at inter county.
Open to correction but the half-time whistle hadn't gone, (why Owens didn't blow when the puck-out was in the air, only he will know), and Dathi was competing for the ball legitimately as it dropped.
It was a fairly blatant stroke. Any Galway folk who were nearby on the terrace knew he was likely to get a red once the officials mulled over it.
The only Galway ones complaining about refereeing conspiracies are the ones who didn't see it, or weren't even at the match, if the Galway forum is anything to go by.
Thought a Cork fella was lucky enough not to be spotted firing a headbutt, seemed to be plenty of shit going on for both sides but that young fella was unlucky enough to be caught.
Quote from: johnnycool on April 27, 2025, 06:31:02 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2025, 06:14:10 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2025, 06:11:37 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2025, 04:51:00 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2025, 04:47:26 PMThe cork fella got away with one too.
In the lead up to the red?
The one John McGrath got in the stomach. It was a bit later in the half.
Ah, must have missed that myself. Think Cork would have won regardless but that's so self inflicted that he can have no complaints and plenty of apologies to his team mates
The lad is only 19 or something so ease up on him FFS..
The GAA do have to come down hard on the dig to the balls. It's getting all too common.
Except in this case it wasn't a dig to the balls, O'Donoghue milked it for all it was worth. That's getting all too common as well.
That's a woeful decision to give Dublin the ghost goal from the penalty.
Quote from: Ash Smoker on April 27, 2025, 11:18:07 PMThat's a woeful decision to give Dublin the ghost goal from the penalty.
The referee looked very suspicious when he was running back after insisting on over ruling his umpires.
Quote from: Owenmoresider on April 27, 2025, 11:12:04 PMQuote from: johnnycool on April 27, 2025, 06:31:02 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2025, 06:14:10 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2025, 06:11:37 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2025, 04:51:00 PMQuote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2025, 04:47:26 PMThe cork fella got away with one too.
In the lead up to the red?
The one John McGrath got in the stomach. It was a bit later in the half.
Ah, must have missed that myself. Think Cork would have won regardless but that's so self inflicted that he can have no complaints and plenty of apologies to his team mates
The lad is only 19 or something so ease up on him FFS..
The GAA do have to come down hard on the dig to the balls. It's getting all too common.
Except in this case it wasn't a dig to the balls, O'Donoghue milked it for all it was worth. That's getting all too common as well.
Indeed, it's the very same bullshit that Donal O'g called out on Adam Hogan earlier on in the day but from the referee's and officials standpoint, they knew McCarthy had struck and O'Donoghue went down clutching his balls..
The task for referees and officials isn't easy.
https://x.com/i/status/1916522308291662263 (https://x.com/i/status/1916522308291662263)
Quote from: johnnycool on April 28, 2025, 08:19:16 AMhttps://x.com/i/status/1916522308291662263 (https://x.com/i/status/1916522308291662263)
That's a red, Cork player is running back and he'd no need to ram the stick into his stomach. The Cork player should also be called out for, what it looked like to me at the time holding his balls as if he was hit there.
Playacting in hurling is getting out of control. It destroyed what was potentially the game of the year in the first minute.
Nothing to see here.
https://x.com/calahonda4/status/1916603348318671049/video/1
Quote from: Premier Emperor on April 28, 2025, 09:45:28 AMNothing to see here.
https://x.com/calahonda4/status/1916603348318671049/video/1
Two lads grappling at each other, headbutting with helmets on lol!
Clare are out after losing to Tip. They gave Tip a 4 goal headstart which was too much to overcome in the inevitable second half comeback. Clare were badly hit by injuries to some of their best players this year.
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 10, 2025, 08:08:06 PMClare are out after losing to Tip. They gave Tip a 4 goal headstart which was too much to overcome in the inevitable second half comeback. Clare were badly hit by injuries to some of their best players this year.
Amazing game but Clare just gave Tipp too much of a start.. that said they had chances to draw, or even win it
Quote from: Capt Pat on May 10, 2025, 08:08:06 PMClare are out after losing to Tip. They gave Tip a 4 goal headstart which was too much to overcome in the inevitable second half comeback. Clare were badly hit by injuries to some of their best players this year.
Or simply Clare are no great shakes!
Quote from: Premier Emperor on May 11, 2025, 05:21:59 PMQuote from: Capt Pat on May 10, 2025, 08:08:06 PMClare are out after losing to Tip. They gave Tip a 4 goal headstart which was too much to overcome in the inevitable second half comeback. Clare were badly hit by injuries to some of their best players this year.
Or simply Clare are no great shakes!
They were all Ireland champions, Tipp since 2019 haven't be great shakes
Clare are all but out of this years championship, but there are a few connotations that keep them in it.
stolen from Clare hurlers;
1.Cork beat Limerick
Tipp beat Waterford
Cork beat Waterford
Clare beat Limerick - Clare through
2. Cork beat Limerick
Waterford beat tipp
Cork v Waterford irrelevant
Clare beat Limerick - scoring diff between Clare, Limerick & Tipp.
3. Limerick beat Cork
Waterford beat tipp
Waterford beat Cork
Clare beat Limerick - scoring difference between Clare, Cork and Tipp.
That said no Conlon (who has been below par in fairness) and Cleary in the centre of their defence and starting an obviously unfit Leen meant that they'd only 2 of their AI winning defence on the field of play and Tipp made great use of that with direct ball in on top of some very inexperienced players.
Even with being "no great shakes" they had opportunities to pull level and even win against Tipp who might be in bother for persistent fouling with a different referee.
Tipp now have the Deise to contend with this Sunday and that will have a big bearing what happens later. Tipp win and they're almost guaranteed to get out of Munster, a draw keeps it interesting but a Waterford win really puts Tipp in bother too.
The expected Munster and AI final contenders will be in action later on in the day in the Gaelic grounds.
Watching Clare V Tipp in Munster U20's - thanks to TG4.
Darragh Mc Carthy's grip tape is very short. Strange.
Good game as well.
Quote from: NAG1 on May 15, 2025, 02:48:14 PMGood game as well.
A lot of discussion about one of the Tipp goals, Tipp lad lifted/held the Clare lads hurl as he was kicking the ball in the net, ref let it stand, probably didn't see it, but once again loads giving out about the umpires, they can do nothing unless approached by the referee.
Quote from: johnnycool on May 16, 2025, 08:23:53 AMQuote from: NAG1 on May 15, 2025, 02:48:14 PMGood game as well.
A lot of discussion about one of the Tipp goals, Tipp lad lifted/held the Clare lads hurl as he was kicking the ball in the net, ref let it stand, probably didn't see it, but once again loads giving out about the umpires, they can do nothing unless approached by the referee.
Yeah, seen the clip and by the rules the umpires cannot call that..
But they obviously, the umpires, lifted the green flag? So it's best to have the umpires do nothing, which will draw the ref's attention in those situations..
Players grab sticks all the time, it's a foul but, how many times do the ref's catch it?
Very cute though lol
I am in Salthill at the Galway Antrim match and the only Antrim people I see are the cumann na mbunscoil under 13s.
Quote from: seafoid on May 17, 2025, 03:21:33 PMI am in Salthill at the Galway Antrim match and the only Antrim people I see are the cumann na mbunscoil under 13s.
Think they are putting up a better show
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2025, 03:42:14 PMQuote from: seafoid on May 17, 2025, 03:21:33 PMI am in Salthill at the Galway Antrim match and the only Antrim people I see are the cumann na mbunscoil under 13s.
Think they are putting up a better show
A pitiful performance & if we did go down to the Joe McDonagh would it be the end of the world ?
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 17, 2025, 04:34:44 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on May 17, 2025, 03:42:14 PMQuote from: seafoid on May 17, 2025, 03:21:33 PMI am in Salthill at the Galway Antrim match and the only Antrim people I see are the cumann na mbunscoil under 13s.
Think they are putting up a better show
A pitiful performance & if we did go down to the Joe McDonagh would it be the end of the world ?
No, we are a yo-yo team to an extent
We need our best players all the time every year to be on form and available
There's promise coming but at the minute we won't beat Offaly
Very good article here on Shane 'The Bull' O'Brien. Feed him the ball and things will happen.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2025/0517/1513406-obriens-killer-instinct-could-be-point-of-difference/
Hard for Seamie Flanagan to find his way back in.
I think Limerick will win the All-Ireland. Strong panel and great competition for places.
When you have Flanagan, Casey, O'Donovan and Cathal O'Neill on your bench, you're not in a bad place.
Age profile is good also.
Hard get a penalty when the ref got a clear view of it and still doesn't blow
Dublin are getting a lesson from Kilkenny. I wonder how they will be next week
Downey got a yellow there, yet Hegarty hit him with the hurl on the head.
Limerick haven't gone away you know. How can stop Cork was the question asked hmm.
Was about to say Cork have a glimmer then boom
Cork's reign as 2025 All Ireland champions didn't last long 8) 8) 8)
Quote from: Ash Smoker on May 18, 2025, 05:31:43 PMCork's reign as 2025 All Ireland champions didn't last long 8) 8) 8)
As much as always believed there are chinks in their armour mostly defensively they will still be there or there abouts for the Munster title and the AI title.
A big win v Waterford will give them another chance at Limerick to right some of the issues they had today.
Defending All Ireland champions Clare out at the group stage.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/results/gaa/2025/6418/tables/
Cork, the most overrated hurling team in the country.
Eoin Downey, the most overrated hurler in the country.
Cork fans, the most overrated fan base in the country.
I see Davy Fitz is unhappy...
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on May 18, 2025, 11:11:33 PMI see Davy Fitz is unhappy...
Not often I agree with him but on this point he is bang on, it's actually nice from someone not from the North to highlight this for a change. We are refereed in a completely different way to most other teams and now he is seeing it too.
Quote from: NAG1 on May 19, 2025, 08:28:18 AMQuote from: Captain Scarlet on May 18, 2025, 11:11:33 PMI see Davy Fitz is unhappy...
Not often I agree with him but on this point he is bang on, it's actually nice from someone not from the North to highlight this for a change. We are refereed in a completely different way to most other teams and now he is seeing it too.
He is correct and so are you in so much we are refereed differently and have been for years, what Davy has said is that the reason McCloskey got the line is because the referee and particular the linesman Murphy hates him personally.
Ulster teams have been getting a rough ride long before Davy come along, he's only now seeing it for himself, but Davy being Davy made it about him and sadly that's how it will be interpreted.
Quote from: johnnycool on May 19, 2025, 09:19:32 AMQuote from: NAG1 on May 19, 2025, 08:28:18 AMQuote from: Captain Scarlet on May 18, 2025, 11:11:33 PMI see Davy Fitz is unhappy...
Not often I agree with him but on this point he is bang on, it's actually nice from someone not from the North to highlight this for a change. We are refereed in a completely different way to most other teams and now he is seeing it too.
He is correct and so are you in so much we are refereed differently and have been for years, what Davy has said is that the reason McCloskey got the line is because the referee and particular the linesman Murphy hates him personally.
Ulster teams have been getting a rough ride long before Davy come along, he's only now seeing it for himself, but Davy being Davy made it about him and sadly that's how it will be interpreted.
Yeah JC I was referring more to the general point than Davy making it about himself.
Quote from: johnnycool on May 19, 2025, 09:19:32 AMQuote from: NAG1 on May 19, 2025, 08:28:18 AMQuote from: Captain Scarlet on May 18, 2025, 11:11:33 PMI see Davy Fitz is unhappy...
Not often I agree with him but on this point he is bang on, it's actually nice from someone not from the North to highlight this for a change. We are refereed in a completely different way to most other teams and now he is seeing it too.
He is correct and so are you in so much we are refereed differently and have been for years, what Davy has said is that the reason McCloskey got the line is because the referee and particular the linesman Murphy hates him personally.
Ulster teams have been getting a rough ride long before Davy come along, he's only now seeing it for himself, but Davy being Davy made it about him and sadly that's how it will be interpreted.
Most people in Galway feel that we are always being refereed differently also. McCloskey got the line for jabbing Monaghan in the balls, an action spotted by Johnny Murphy. Can have no complaints there.
Quote from: mouview on May 19, 2025, 10:28:13 AMQuote from: johnnycool on May 19, 2025, 09:19:32 AMQuote from: NAG1 on May 19, 2025, 08:28:18 AMQuote from: Captain Scarlet on May 18, 2025, 11:11:33 PMI see Davy Fitz is unhappy...
Not often I agree with him but on this point he is bang on, it's actually nice from someone not from the North to highlight this for a change. We are refereed in a completely different way to most other teams and now he is seeing it too.
He is correct and so are you in so much we are refereed differently and have been for years, what Davy has said is that the reason McCloskey got the line is because the referee and particular the linesman Murphy hates him personally.
Ulster teams have been getting a rough ride long before Davy come along, he's only now seeing it for himself, but Davy being Davy made it about him and sadly that's how it will be interpreted.
Most people in Galway feel that we are always being refereed differently also. McCloskey got the line for jabbing Monaghan in the balls, an action spotted by Johnny Murphy. Can have no complaints there.
Did Monaghan get away with the punch first?
Quote from: mouview on May 19, 2025, 10:28:13 AMQuote from: johnnycool on May 19, 2025, 09:19:32 AMQuote from: NAG1 on May 19, 2025, 08:28:18 AMQuote from: Captain Scarlet on May 18, 2025, 11:11:33 PMI see Davy Fitz is unhappy...
Not often I agree with him but on this point he is bang on, it's actually nice from someone not from the North to highlight this for a change. We are refereed in a completely different way to most other teams and now he is seeing it too.
He is correct and so are you in so much we are refereed differently and have been for years, what Davy has said is that the reason McCloskey got the line is because the referee and particular the linesman Murphy hates him personally.
Ulster teams have been getting a rough ride long before Davy come along, he's only now seeing it for himself, but Davy being Davy made it about him and sadly that's how it will be interpreted.
Most people in Galway feel that we are always being refereed differently also. McCloskey got the line for jabbing Monaghan in the balls, an action spotted by Johnny Murphy. Can have no complaints there.
From the footage it seemed the referee indicated it was how McCloskey had the stick round the head of the Galway player. And almost seemed to say he had it in both hands at either side to the head like a choke.
But the video also seemed to show the Galway player latching on to the hurl of McCloskey and trying to use that to generate a free. McCloskey seemed to try to free hurl by grabbing at the bás end which resulted in it seeming like he had both at once in a choke style.
The action of the Galway player in latching on to the opponents hurl and is a thing many are at and it's very dangerous for the game where players are creating a high tackle in the aim of winning a free.
Nice piece on Cian Lynch here.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2025/0522/1514373-lynchs-decade-of-limerick-artistry/
What a talent. Could watch him all day. Just different from the rest. When he retires, he'll has some reel of flicks and tricks on his list. I don't think there's anybody like him.
Going for 3rd POTY award this year and strong favourite. Just love his care free attitude as if he's 12 years old and playing in his back garden.
I remember being at the KK V Limerick All-Ireland semi-final in 2014. Most memorable game I was at I think. The thunderstorm was unreal. The game was epic because of it. Limerick gave their all but came up short...again. I thought will Limerick ever get over the 1973 line. Quaid was in goals, Hannon was playing and Dowling was also playing I think.
Some turnaround since that. Clubs produce the players, into county academy. Add in a bit of S&C and cash backing and look what transpired.
I've watched a lot of Kinnerk's presentations etc. recently. Although they're 6+ years old, you can just see the level of training the Limerick players get. They face all scenarios at training, come match day, they have the answers. All about asking questions. Player led.
Then watch Limerick play, they are all hurlers. Can play anywhere. Comfortable on the ball. Look at Barry Nash - what a hurler. Play him corner back or corner forward, it wouldn't matter. Thy can all slot in anywhere.
But to me, Lynch is the duel in the crown. A superstar. A free spirit but what a hurler. The stickwork and the vision. Great to be able to watch him play.
Did anybody attend any of the recent Hurling Roadshows in Belfast or Tyrone?
Any good?
8 week ban for Davy Fitz.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/c0lnxer8grno
The sporting equivalent of banning a teacher for two months during the summer.
This is a poor enough game, littered mistakes, poor shot sections, either team from here will be in trouble next year against the big boys
Enjoyable enough game so far in the Joe McDonagh Final.
Laois look a bit tense and have hit some bad wides, if they start to click they should win but Kildare doing very well so far.
That should be it for Kildare, by far the better team in second half.
Some rise for Kildare hurling, should give hope to other counties, great to see.
Could be a long time before we see Laois back.
I was at the Kildare Laois game in Portlaoise and they were unbelievable that day.
I didn't expect anything else from today's match only a Kildare win.
Laois would have been better off not getting that last minute goal v Carlow.
Well done Kildare.
Laois' shooting was woeful at times and they faded badly in the end.
I hope Kildare don't go too mad this week and give the Dubs a rattle. Physically they are well able but there are levels and levels.
One of the great games yesterday, Leinster final the excate opposite.
Leinster was very poor fare today, I know Galway made a bit of a run but for the most part they were atrocious
Kildare were impressive in the second half yesterday, their power, pace, catching, skill and for the most part the score taking was better than what transpired an hour or so later.
Which begs the question how TF did Down beat them twice in the league. ;D
Laois ran out of steam, but the better team certainly won.
How have galway got so poor? They weren't this bad under Shefflin and they should constantly have talent coming through as they seem constantly good at underage.
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 09, 2025, 08:59:39 AMHow have galway got so poor? They weren't this bad under Shefflin and they should constantly have talent coming through as they seem constantly good at underage.
They have maybe won one Leinster U-20? Minors and seniors now you may as well be comparing apples and oranges. Even trying to project U-20 to senior is hard, minor to senior is a waste of time.
Personally I just don't think they have the personnel, outside of a few players. Always will be good enough to get to Leinster finals and maybe the odd All Ireland semi but with the current crop that's about it.
Quote from: johnnycool on June 09, 2025, 08:43:27 AMKildare were impressive in the second half yesterday, their power, pace, catching, skill and for the most part the score taking was better than what transpired an hour or so later.
Which begs the question how TF did Down beat them twice in the league. ;D
Laois ran out of steam, but the better team certainly won.
Bad day at headquarters, they have had an up and down year, though Kildare did beat them handy enough this year so maybe not so much a surprise, just thought Laois would have had the experience of last year to draw from to get them over the line, too many wides and poor selections when in possession.
As for Kildare they grew more and more into the game and dominated Laois in every position, but Croke Park will not see a better double save.
Quote from: johnnycool on June 09, 2025, 08:43:27 AMKildare were impressive in the second half yesterday, their power, pace, catching, skill and for the most part the score taking was better than what transpired an hour or so later.
Which begs the question how TF did Down beat them twice in the league. ;D
Laois ran out of steam, but the better team certainly won.
Kildare looked stronger, fitter and had more hunger than Laois.
I expected Laois to pull ahead in the second half especially after the early goal but it only seemed to make Kildare even more hungry to win.
Could Kildare give Dublin a good rattle?
Btw I think it's a ridiculous system than Laois are now playing Tipp next week, what good will that do for them? Probably get an absolute battering.
Only the winners should be progress to the All Ireland phase imo.
Preliminary Quarter final resultsl Tipperary: 3-32 Laois: 0-18(18)
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 14, 2025, 03:27:33 PMPreliminary Quarter final resultsl Tipperary: 3-32 Laois: 0-18(18)
You'd have to wonder at what has to be gained by a team asked to play a strong Munster side six days after defeat in the McDonagh Cup final.
Same for Kildare - let them enjoy the McDonagh Cup win and be done with that....
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Quote from: From the Bunker on June 14, 2025, 05:46:28 PMSame for Kildare - let them enjoy the McDonagh Cup win and be done with that....
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Yes little respect HQ have for McDonagh Cup finalists. Saying that Dublin,Kildare wouldn't have won regardless but might have given a better account of themselves if given at least a two week break/prep time.
QF is next week so there is obviously a knock on effect, the game itself should be binned but counties had their chance at congress last year and voted it down
Now that the formalities of the pre qualifiers are over do we expect to see anything other than a Munster double in the proper quarterfinals?
Dubs may put up a bit of a battle but in the end Limerick will have too much for them as they'll need to get over their Munster final defeat and get to the AI semi-final v Kilkenny.
Tipp will go in as favourites in the other game, but Galway mightn't have the same mental block against Tipp as they do seem to have against Kilkenny and just might decide to play a bit of hurling. If they do decide to do that then we might get ourselves a game, probably a high scoring one but for me Tipp will just shade it.
Dublin v Limerick is now on Saturday afternoon as part of a Dublin double header in neutral Croke Park, well, it's neutral for the hurling, but a home venue for the football.
Make of that what you will.