With all the hype surrounding the senior championship game against Galway back in May, it's now the time of the minors to show us what they are worth. Saw them against both Sligo and Galway in the minor league which they looked impressive enough in, but that's been a while ago. How does the board see this one go against last years All Ireland champions. This is the first test of Dempsey's intercounty management will he be able to guide Mayo to their first Connacht title in a couple of years.
any word on the team yet . i suppose its the usual crowd of south mayo landed gentry types that we will never hear of again :P
According to Edwin McGreal in the Mayo News the squad has six from Breaffy, four from Garrymore, three from Ballintubber, the rest from all over. He also goes on to say the majority of the squad are made up from West and South Mayo. There are the likes of Caomhin Carty and Alan Freeman (Aghamore), Niall Prenty (son of John) from Ballyhaunis. There are also a few from last years side, Kevin McLoughlin (K/More), Donal Gallagher (Achill), Sean Prendergast (C/Morris), Kieth Glynn (Davitts), Damien Keane (W/Port) and Ruaidhri O'Connor (Ballinubber)
First ye are not playing last years All Ireland Champions.
Most of that team are now overage.
Second the two best survivors of last years team have been out injured for months and will not be available until August by which time we may be well gone.
Mayo with their underage traditions and much greater population and I believs a very good squad must be roaring favourites.
Hopefully the minoreens will at least have the traditional Ros spirit unlike the Senior clowns.
Of course the minors have one big advantage -they have a Manager.
are minor teams so political in other coiunties.
Crossmolina dispite probably having been the stongest club in mayo over the last decade or so have had just a smattering of minor players. I remember way back in my . A certain red headed Publican from kiltane was a minor selector he alway made sure erris had about 4 or 5 player in the team in cluding any relevant family member. But dispite the presence of roachford (is he there this year?) over the last few years north mayo now nevr seem to get a fair crack
What happent the roscommon manager?
That Red headed publican only ever had one member of his family on the Minor side, and he has an all Ireland medal to show for it. I'm from Kiltane and I've never seen more then one player form our club in any given year line out for the county, Usually we done have any representation on the Minor side. Micky Sweeney was on it last year and after Hanley he was probably our most dangerous forward.
You're awful cranky lately rosnarun!
Hopefully when the qualifiers get going, your form will improve ;)
Ray Dempsey is from Knockmore, and as far as I know his selectors are from Charlestown and Burishoole (are there more?).
Now, you'd do well to find any south Mayo landed gentry in that group!
Ros
You must be kidding if you think that the red haired publican would be pushing to get belmullet lads on the team.
roscommon 0.3 mayo 0.1 after 12 min.
RN 0-06
MO 0-01
half time
ros 1.10 mayo 1.4 5 min. to go
Finished 1-11 to 1-5.
From listening to it on the radio, Mayo were very poor, but Ros could do well again this year.
No Connacht minor title in 6 years now :(
Made the trip to see this. It was the poorest Mayo minor team i have seen for some time. We didn't have 1 standout player. We only had 1 point on the board after about 40 minutes. A couple of fairly physically big subs came on then and made a bit of a difference but Roscommon were in a different class. Depressing stuff.
Went to the game with the mayo senior manager to really see this much vaunted mayo minor team an as a rossie was delighted to see the knockmore thug put in his place,no room in gaa for his style of play.On the way home the mayo senior boss reckons ross will retain all their titles
Quote from: mjg on June 24, 2007, 03:50:12 AM
Went to the game with the mayo senior manager to really see this much vaunted mayo minor team an as a rossie was delighted to see the knockmore thug put in his place,no room in gaa for his style of play.On the way home the mayo senior boss reckons ross will retain all their titles
Somehow don't think the Mayo senior manager would be too happy to be associated with your comments
I think you were drunk when you said you were there with jom, ten to four sunday morning posting suggests the beer got the better of you.And by the way minor did f all for laois.
Mannix, who is talking about Laois?.....Some of Mayo's play last night was dirty, such as off the ball hitting, late challenges etc, not to mention the elbow into the face of Ros captain Paul Garvey that practically knocked him out.
Mayo got a footballing lesson from the young Rossies last night, and i believe that the final scoreline actually flatters Mayo.
We don't need JOM to tell us we have a good team, but make no mistake, nobody in Ros will get carried away by this result. It was only a Connacht Semi Final.
Apparently, this was a very highly rated Mayo team, but aren't they all. The young Rossies had no fear of Mayo last night, but why would they. Mayo haven't won a Connacht Minor title since 2001, while almost half of that Ros team have an All Ireland Medal in their back pockets.
Donal Shine still only half match fit.
The day we need lessons from roscommon about football or anything else we are finished.Roscommon have a nice minor side and so did laois at minor for several years, those same minors are not on the laois panels today so that was my point on that one.
I doubt Mayo were dirty without reason,have you ever seen a dirty Mayo team?
Good luck to roscommon for the rest of the season at all levels, its good to see you win but keep a lid on it.
Quote from: mannix on June 24, 2007, 03:40:53 PM
I doubt Mayo were dirty without reason,have you ever seen a dirty Mayo team?
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There are none so blind.......... ::)
I certainly saw a dirty Mayo team last night - Paul Garvey almost decapitated;Kevin Higgins and James McKeague fouled at least 10 times each ...nos 8 and 9 lucky not to have got reds......
Last year when Ros minors bet Galway in the first Round we had a loads of Galway posters telling us about it being the worst Galway minor team in years.
This year we bate Mayo and we have Mayo posters telling us it's the worst Mayo minor team in years.
Get used to it lads -hopefully it's the future. ;)
As I could not be there I will take your word for it and say well done, now lets see you repeat the allireland feat.I am shocked to hear a dirty Mayo team took the field, maybe the manager has been teaching them his ways.
Honestly, you must agree Mayo are generally a sporting county, we are not known for dirt.
Quote from: mannix on June 24, 2007, 05:26:51 PM
you must agree Mayo are generally a sporting county, we are not known for dirt.
Wouldnt disagree with that most of the time.
Maybe if ye had a bit of in in 1989/1996/1997/2004/2006..... :'(
Fair play the minors. Didnt get to it but delighted that a bit of pride is back after the seniors debacle.
Am sure O'Donnell will keep the players feet on ground. Done it last year when county was going mental.
Quote from: Rossfan on June 24, 2007, 05:22:38 PM
Quote from: mannix on June 24, 2007, 03:40:53 PM
I doubt Mayo were dirty without reason,have you ever seen a dirty Mayo team?
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Last year when Ros minors bet Galway in the first Round we had a loads of Galway posters telling us about it being the worst Galway minor team in years.
This year we bate Mayo and we have Mayo posters telling us it's the worst Mayo minor team in years.
Get used to it lads -hopefully it's the future. ;)
Not a chance, ye'll lose the run of ye'reselves with a bit of success and start naked tractor driving or stealing busses or something. The rest of the province just has to sit back and wait for ye to implode.
Great result for the Ros minors but nothing to get carried away about. These young lads seem to have their head screwed on so hopefully they will take all this in their stride. The good thing is they are guaranteed at least two more games. Being All-Ireland champions means every one will be out to beat them but thats motivation in its own way. Think we are curently seeing the fruits of the hard work gone into the under age structure in the last few years. Think the management team is doing some job with these lads - deserve a lot of credit................
Quotenot to mention the elbow into the face of Ros captain Paul Garvey that practically knocked him out.
If it was deliberate then why wasn't he sent to the line given that the ref was right up with the incident ?
In my view, the Mayo corner back went to give the Ross lad a shoulder but the Ross lad was moving away from him. The Mayo lads arm came up as he was almost losing balance when there was nothing there to shoulder. His elbow inadvertently connected with the Ross guys jaw. A very clumsy tackle that could have broken a cheekbone or a jaw - a yellow card in my view and as per adjudged by the ref. If the ref deemed it deliberate then it would have been the easiest decision in the world to have given a red, but he didn't and thats the decision that counts - not the opinions of idiots in the stand screaming for the corner backs head on a plate.
Needless to say, the Rossies booed the Mayo corner back every time he touched the ball from there on.
An impressive win by an impressive Ros minor team but i guess yee guys can't leave it at that. Any comments from Rossies re the Mayo minor manager reflect nothing other than bitterness cos of the amount of goals he scored in championship against yee. My comments re it being a poor Mayo minor team were due to the appalling handling skills of the team and the countless poor decisions that were made when in possession - this was nothing to do with the Rossies.
Oh and good to see that "secret agent Maughan" is doing his job so well with the seniors.
QuoteIn my view, the Mayo corner back went to give the Ross lad a shoulder but the Ross lad was moving away from him. The Mayo lads arm came up as he was almost losing balance when there was nothing there to shoulder.
If you played football you'd know that this kind of thing can happen alright. It looks bad to the observer but its actually not malicious though it is dangerous. Obviously I didn't see the incident but I think I've seen many like it in the past. It's a product of being over eager and is clumsy more than spiteful.
It seems to me that Ros are blessed with great management at this age. Again they were pretty average in the Connacht League but have risen it at the right time. Galway were pretty unimpressive against our lads in the second half yesterday (our lads simply did not turn up in the first 20 minutes) so a second Connacht in a row looks to be Roscommon's for the taking.
blast05, in fairness to you, well done for at least commenting on Saturday's game. As we all know, this site is well populated by Mayo people, but for some reason, there seems to be a shortage of them on this thread since Saturday.
You could say the silence is deafening from Mayo on this one. The few that have contributed have tried to slag off Roscommon, (APART from blast05)
Jaysus Shrewd would ya give it a rest.
I was not at the game on Saturday, but having played the game I would take Blasts version of events. These things can happen. Now get over it.
Shrewd you seem intent on ramming this victory down Mayo peoples throats. There are some rossies(or alot other counties may say) who seem unable to act graceful in victory. Quit making a fool of yourself and dragging the rest of us down with you.
QuoteYou could say the silence is deafening from Mayo on this one. The few that have contributed have tried to slag off Roscommon, (APART from blast05)
I think if you look back, you'll see that I said I was disappointed by Mayo's performance and that Ros could go far again. Hardly slagging you off.
And if you think Mayo are being bad losers, I could suggest you are a bad winner.
Quote from: blast05 on June 25, 2007, 12:20:48 PM
If it was deliberate then why wasn't he sent to the line given that the ref was right up with the incident ?
In my view, the Mayo corner back went to give the Ross lad a shoulder but the Ross lad was moving away from him. The Mayo lads arm came up as he was almost losing balance when there was nothing there to shoulder. His elbow inadvertently connected with the Ross guys jaw. A very clumsy tackle that could have broken a cheekbone or a jaw - a yellow card in my view and as per adjudged by the ref.
I'd agree Blast. It was a clumsy rather then malicious tackle. Having said that i was surprised by some of the other tackles that were being put about. It's rare to see a Mayo team being "dirty" and i don't think these lads were to be honest. It was more to do with frustration i'd think due to them playing so poorly and Ros running circles around them. Anyone who has played football will have known the feeling at some stage in their career. It's easy to loose the run of yourself at times.
Quote from: blast05 on June 25, 2007, 12:20:48 PM
Needless to say, the Rossies booed the Mayo corner back every time he touched the ball from there on.
Ah come on! What do you expect? Its a home game with a large home crowd. If you take it in context with some of the other tackles that were put in on Ros players, the fact that it was on the Ros captain who he clobbered then of course he was going to be booed. It would have been no different down in McHale park, Pearse stadium or Croke park. It's not fair to suggest that because it was "Rossie" fans it was unique.
Quote from: blast05 on June 25, 2007, 12:20:48 PM
An impressive win by an impressive Ros minor team but i guess yee guys can't leave it at that.
Whats that meant to mean? I can't understand how people would begrudge us our small bit of success when it comes around every 50 years or so. For christ sake when Mayo reached the Ai final they were writing songs, putting up posters and sacrificing fatened calves for weeks before the game was even played. Why cant we celebrate actually winning a final?
Quote from: blast05 on June 25, 2007, 12:20:48 PM
Any comments from Rossies re the Mayo minor manager reflect nothing other than bitterness cos of the amount of goals he scored in championship against yee.
I don't know about bitterness... But there again i don't think he was ever a dirty player either so i don't know how or why he would pass on anything like this to his players.
Quote from: blast05 on June 25, 2007, 12:20:48 PM
Oh and good to see that "secret agent Maughan" is doing his job so well with the seniors.
Aye, nearly as good as he did with ye. Thankfully he has not brought us to the AI to make a holy show of us in front of the GAA world though ;)
Ros and Mayo fans in silly tit-for-tat argument shock!!
I wasnt at the game, but I did listen to Willie Hegarty's commentary on Shannonside (I was stuck in Roscommon).
He's a pretty poor commentator, to say the least.
Quote from: Pietas on June 25, 2007, 02:13:55 PM
I wasnt at the game, but I did listen to Willie Hegarty's commentary on Shannonside (I was stuck in Roscommon).
Welcome to our world. We are stuck there all the time and this plike is what we have to listen to. What is it with Willie commentators anyway. Isn't there a Willie the shoe commentator on MWR in a similar vain to Hegarty???
Quote from: Pietas on June 25, 2007, 02:13:55 PM
He's a pretty poor commentator, to say the least.
Now thats something we can agree on ;D
Quote from: Ryano on June 25, 2007, 04:50:40 PM
Isn't there a Willie the shoe commentator on MWR in a similar vain to Hegarty???
Willie 'The Shoe' McNeeley passed away in june 2002.
Well done to Roscommon. Last year they showed what a dedicated and brave bunch they are. What Fergal O'Donnell has done with them is nothing short of sensational. They have the good footballers blended with those that are willing to work hard and die for the jersey. I didn't make the match but surely they have to have a chance to push it close again this year. From watching BBC though Derry seem to be a serious team.
I don't know how good or bad this Mayo team is/was. However I don't think there were any stars on the team, and last year was the best team we produced in years only for cockiness to rule them out against Ros. They could have won the Connacht Final in the first twenty minutes and when the brave defence of Ros kept them out they put down the heads and deservedly lost.
The positive from our point of view is that the players are coming through at u21 level although many of much of a muchness and nothing special.
Our commentator on MWR now is Mike Finnerty, who operates to the highest standard. He also does matches for Sentanta and would give anybody in RTE a good run for their money. He is also sports editor of Mayo News. I am not him, or indeed related to him, he's just good at his job, albeit a little monotone at times.
Agreed, as local radio commentators go, Finnerty is top class alright
I was at the Galway v Sligo minor game on Sunday and after seeing how our lads performed I'm convinced Ros will beat us in the final. To say we were lucky to win in the end would be an understatement.
Mulholland doesn't convince me as a manager. Similar to games last year,Galway completely lost their shape in the 2nd half on Sunday.At certain times there wasn't a single Galway forward inside the Sligo 40 metre line. That meant that every time a back or midfielder got the ball he would look up and have no target to aim at,so we ended up with a series of aimless passes which invariably ended up with posession being surrendered to Sligo.
It was all so different in the first 20 minutes, as we raced 7-1 up.Galway were playing really well at that stage and some of the moves leading to these scores were a joy to watch.They could have tagged a few goals onto this score as well.
The 2nd half was completely one way traffic though. Sligo got on top and the Galway midfield collapsed completely.If Ros have a strong midfield pairing then Galway are doomed. They won virtually no possession from kick-outs in the entire second half.O'Griofa from Lettermore came on towards the end at midfield and made a big difference to us. It's hard to believe also that Danny Cummins from Claregalway who was Jarlaths top scorer from play this year, can't even make the panel not to mind the starting 15.
I'd advise people to get down to the bookies and get on Ros for the final. As a Galway supporter it gives me no pleasure to say that but I honestly believe that it is a poor Galway team - one of the poorest Galway minor teams in a long time and I've seen them all over the past 15 years or so - and they will be found out on Sunday week.
That was some win for Ros on Saturday.Any day you can outscore Mayo by 12 scores to 6 in minor championship is a good days work.
Galway playing down their chances in a Connacht final...
O'Mahoneys legacy stretches further than 2 All irelands I see!!! :)
Mayo all the way lads! C'mon!
QuoteI'd advise people to get down to the bookies and get on Ros for the final.
Good effort Mr Mulholland. After you post up your own betting slip we will alll follow,
In fairness to galwayman I think he's telling the truth here. I haven't seen the minors play this year but looking through the names on the teamsheet there aren't very many who stand out and as he said leaving out Jarlaths's top scorer just typifies the rather shambolic mismanagement that the Galway minors have been subjected to in the past 5 or 6 years. The fact that they managed to win 4 Connacht titles in a row was achieved in spite of rather than because of the management in place IMO.
An example of this is that under proper management many of the players that never did a tap for Galway at minor level won two U-21 All-Irelands.
I was at that game too and Galwayman is telling the truth. I was so disgusted with Sligo at half time I reckoned it was the worst Sligo minor team I'd ever seen. It was patently obvious that Galway weren't that good yet we were lucky to be only 9-3 down. After that Sligo just took over and but for a bit of panic setting in after the goal would have won.
All that said any minor games I've seen in recent years in Connacht have looked incredibly poor to me. Maybe Ros/Mayo was equally as bad. I'd be giving my vote to Ros on the basis of not seeing them which could be dodgy.
This is certainly a new Galway attitude. Last year there were calls for lynchings after being beaten by "ROSCOMMON FFS!!". Now they're hoping to show up and give us a game. Yeah right... ;)
You'd have to wonder about them Rossies. Talk up your own team and they let fly. Talk down your own team and they mumble cross-eyed about underhand motivations. The preassure of favourites is taking its toll on the supporters. Got to hand it to their minors though, its not often that the Irish Times refers to a team as 'sublime'.