Keyser soze put this up on a thread there..
Think it deserves a tread on its own
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2024, 12:57:48 PMKeyser soze put this up on a thread there..
Think it deserves a tread on its own
He has a point on electric cars all the same.
Whilst battery technology is improving all the time there's still a bit to go and Lithium mining is a dubious practice in a lot of countries, child labour etc etc and Musk trying to start overthrowing governments in countries with large Lithium deposits.
It has the potential to start as many wars as oil has but the eco warriors don't seem to mind that or if they do they're very quiet on the subject.
Maigh Eo
Woke has seen the Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual community highjacked by Heterosexuals with Fetishes.
Quote from: Truthsayer on July 30, 2024, 02:22:15 PMAt the risk of being labelled a dinosaur.. is this really a sackable offence?!!
As the 4x100m freestyle relay team were making their way off the pool deck in Paris, commentator Bob Ballard said they were "finishing up", adding "you know what women are like... hanging around, doing their make-up".
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cprq880yz0xo.amp
Seen that the other day.. Its like there is someone just waiting to 'cancel' someone for the craic!
People go out of their way to get offended these days.
All looking for confrontation - I think it makes them feel important to be able to tell others what they can and cant say.
I'd like to cancel the "woke".
Here I was being sarcastic. Or ironic. Or satirical.
Never really could tell the difference in those lol.
Quote from: Keyser soze on July 30, 2024, 04:08:52 PMHere I was being sarcastic. Or ironic. Or satirical.
Never really could tell the difference in those lol.
Too late. Threads been created. Can't go back now
Woke = a big bucket for things.
Left = a big bucket for things.
Far right = a big bucket for things.
All the same. No one even knows what any of them mean any more they're that misused...
Quick question. Is Rossfan a Syferus account?
Ron DeSantis the best for using the word woke and probably doesn't even understand what the word means.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2024, 02:59:03 PMWoke has seen the Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual community highjacked by Heterosexuals with Fetishes.
And now this thread has been hijacked by arseholes
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 30, 2024, 06:35:57 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2024, 02:59:03 PMWoke has seen the Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual community highjacked by Heterosexuals with Fetishes.
And now this thread has been hijacked by arseholes
It's true LGB covered most of the concerns of the Gay community. They could tidily look for their rights back in the day. But the extra letters (which are really Heterosexuals with fetishes) have put their causes on a difficult place.
They have hijacked the Rainbow flag and when things should have been getting easy for the Gay community they have caused unwanted complications.
I know a lot of the Gay community who are uncomfortable with their broad branding.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 30, 2024, 03:28:33 PMQuote from: Truthsayer on July 30, 2024, 02:22:15 PMAt the risk of being labelled a dinosaur.. is this really a sackable offence?!!
As the 4x100m freestyle relay team were making their way off the pool deck in Paris, commentator Bob Ballard said they were "finishing up", adding "you know what women are like... hanging around, doing their make-up".
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cprq880yz0xo.amp
Seen that the other day.. Its like there is someone just waiting to 'cancel' someone for the craic!
While a convicted child rapist is allowed to participate. Game's Gone.
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2024, 09:16:44 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 30, 2024, 06:35:57 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2024, 02:59:03 PMWoke has seen the Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual community highjacked by Heterosexuals with Fetishes.
And now this thread has been hijacked by arseholes
It's true LGB covered most of the concerns of the Gay community. They could tidily look for their rights back in the day. But the extra letters (which are really Heterosexuals with fetishes) have put their causes on a difficult place.
They have hijacked the Rainbow flag and when things should have been getting easy for the Gay community they have caused unwanted complications.
I know a lot of the Gay community who are uncomfortable with their broad branding.
Do you think the LG&B's will form a splinter group?
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 30, 2024, 10:37:22 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2024, 09:16:44 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 30, 2024, 06:35:57 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2024, 02:59:03 PMWoke has seen the Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual community highjacked by Heterosexuals with Fetishes.
And now this thread has been hijacked by arseholes
It's true LGB covered most of the concerns of the Gay community. They could tidily look for their rights back in the day. But the extra letters (which are really Heterosexuals with fetishes) have put their causes on a difficult place.
They have hijacked the Rainbow flag and when things should have been getting easy for the Gay community they have caused unwanted complications.
I know a lot of the Gay community who are uncomfortable with their broad branding.
Do you think the LG&B's will form a splinter group?
They'd never be allowed by society, even if they wanted to.
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 30, 2024, 10:37:22 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2024, 09:16:44 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 30, 2024, 06:35:57 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2024, 02:59:03 PMWoke has seen the Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual community highjacked by Heterosexuals with Fetishes.
And now this thread has been hijacked by arseholes
It's true LGB covered most of the concerns of the Gay community. They could tidily look for their rights back in the day. But the extra letters (which are really Heterosexuals with fetishes) have put their causes on a difficult place.
They have hijacked the Rainbow flag and when things should have been getting easy for the Gay community they have caused unwanted complications.
I know a lot of the Gay community who are uncomfortable with their broad branding.
Do you think the LG&B's will form a splinter group?
The Real LGB?
The Peoples LGB Front?
Quote from: tbrick18 on July 31, 2024, 10:28:05 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on July 30, 2024, 10:37:22 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2024, 09:16:44 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 30, 2024, 06:35:57 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2024, 02:59:03 PMWoke has seen the Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual community highjacked by Heterosexuals with Fetishes.
And now this thread has been hijacked by arseholes
It's true LGB covered most of the concerns of the Gay community. They could tidily look for their rights back in the day. But the extra letters (which are really Heterosexuals with fetishes) have put their causes on a difficult place.
They have hijacked the Rainbow flag and when things should have been getting easy for the Gay community they have caused unwanted complications.
I know a lot of the Gay community who are uncomfortable with their broad branding.
Do you think the LG&B's will form a splinter group?
The Real LGB?
The Peoples LGB Front?
SPLITTERS!!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 31, 2024, 11:14:56 AMQuote from: tbrick18 on July 31, 2024, 10:28:05 AMQuote from: AustinPowers on July 30, 2024, 10:37:22 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2024, 09:16:44 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on July 30, 2024, 06:35:57 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 30, 2024, 02:59:03 PMWoke has seen the Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual community highjacked by Heterosexuals with Fetishes.
And now this thread has been hijacked by arseholes
It's true LGB covered most of the concerns of the Gay community. They could tidily look for their rights back in the day. But the extra letters (which are really Heterosexuals with fetishes) have put their causes on a difficult place.
They have hijacked the Rainbow flag and when things should have been getting easy for the Gay community they have caused unwanted complications.
I know a lot of the Gay community who are uncomfortable with their broad branding.
Do you think the LG&B's will form a splinter group?
The Real LGB?
The Peoples LGB Front?
SPLITTERS!!
;D ;D
Someone was bound to get it.
The breakaway group can be called the Real Heterosexuals with Fetishes.
So we can have H+ which is what they really are.
Think about it if you need something to describe your sexual preference outside of LGB then you must be Heterosexual?
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 31, 2024, 03:22:55 PMThe breakaway group can be called the Real Heterosexuals with Fetishes.
So we can have H+ which is what they really are.
Think about it if you need something to describe your sexual preference outside of LGB then you must be Heterosexual?
Boring!!!
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Quote from: From the Bunker on July 31, 2024, 03:22:55 PMThe breakaway group can be called the Real Heterosexuals with Fetishes.
So we can have H+ which is what they really are.
Think about it if you need something to describe your sexual preference outside of LGB then you must be Heterosexual?
Wouldn't the "B"s also fall into the 'hetero with fetishes' group?
Honest to God, the missus is doing an educational on-line course, and one of the lecturers introduced herself an "a bisexual professor on...", as if being bi- was anything to do with what she was supposed to be teaching. Looks like just a cheap way of getting kudos you don't deserve.
Quote from: tonto1888 on July 31, 2024, 03:39:06 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on July 31, 2024, 03:22:55 PMThe breakaway group can be called the Real Heterosexuals with Fetishes.
So we can have H+ which is what they really are.
Think about it if you need something to describe your sexual preference outside of LGB then you must be Heterosexual?
Boring!!!
Well I suppose it's an improvement on being called an Arsehole!
Quote from: burdizzo on July 31, 2024, 04:46:32 PMWouldn't the "B"s also fall into the 'hetero with fetishes' group?
B's involve have sexual relations with your own sex - so no!
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 31, 2024, 03:22:55 PMThe breakaway group can be called the Real Heterosexuals with Fetishes.
So we can have H+ which is what they really are.
Think about it if you need something to describe your sexual preference outside of LGB then you must be Heterosexual?
Wouldn't the "B"s also fall into the 'hetero with fetishes' group?
Honest to God, the missus is doing an educational on-line course, and one of the lecturers introduced herself an "a bisexual professor on...", as if being bi- was anything to do with what she was supposed to be teaching. Looks like just a cheap way of getting kudos you don't deserve.
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I'm a big supporter of LGBT rights but I have to agree with this. It doesn't have to be the whole of your identity.
Quote from: burdizzo on July 31, 2024, 04:46:32 PMHonest to God, the missus is doing an educational on-line course, and one of the lecturers introduced herself an "a bisexual professor on...", as if being bi- was anything to do with what she was supposed to be teaching. Looks like just a cheap way of getting kudos you don't deserve.
I'd say that it wasn't an engineering or maths course.
Quote from: armaghniac on July 31, 2024, 08:06:44 PMQuote from: burdizzo on July 31, 2024, 04:46:32 PMHonest to God, the missus is doing an educational on-line course, and one of the lecturers introduced herself an "a bisexual professor on...", as if being bi- was anything to do with what she was supposed to be teaching. Looks like just a cheap way of getting kudos you don't deserve.
I'd say that it wasn't an engineering or maths course.
How right you are. However, it was scientific and evidence-based, so pretty irrelevant. Not art, gender studies, or English.
The people who preach about LGBT issues online don't even believe in it themselves. I will give you an example, the type of people who put their gender pronouns on their social media bios "She/her" have assumed my gender many times. They refer to me as "him" and "he", for all they know I could identify as gender neutral. It is just all virtue signaling.
Quote from: Norm-Peterson on August 01, 2024, 05:58:40 PMThe people who preach about LGBT issues online don't even believe in it themselves. I will give you an example, the type of people who put their gender pronouns on their social media bios "She/her" have assumed my gender many times. They refer to me as "him" and "he", for all they know I could identify as gender neutral. It is just all virtue signaling.
Ironclad case there.
Unalived - Woke bullshit, just say dead or killed etc
Quote from: Mourne Red on August 21, 2024, 07:29:54 PMUnalived - Woke bullshit, just say dead or killed etc
Think the likes of tiktok will take the comment down if you use certain words
Quote from: Mourne Red on August 21, 2024, 07:29:54 PMUnalived - Woke bullshit, just say dead or killed etc
Nobody has died in years. They've all passed away.
People think it doesn't sound as harsh. It's just as harsh for the poor hoor who snuffed it mind you.
Complete bullshit.
Trans is the worst aspect of Wokeism.
Quote from: seafoid on August 21, 2024, 09:23:26 PMTrans is the worst aspect of Wokeism.
In what aspect is it the worst?
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 21, 2024, 09:26:41 PMQuote from: seafoid on August 21, 2024, 09:23:26 PMTrans is the worst aspect of Wokeism.
In what aspect is it the worst?
Because it has conswruences in real life for girls and women. Trans is an attempt to replace reality.
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 21, 2024, 07:39:14 PMQuote from: Mourne Red on August 21, 2024, 07:29:54 PMUnalived - Woke bullshit, just say dead or killed etc
Think the likes of tiktok will take the comment down if you use certain words
Yeah, that's what I read. A euphemism to get around internet censorship.
Nothing to with wokeness.
Quote from: seafoid on August 21, 2024, 09:31:37 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on August 21, 2024, 09:26:41 PMQuote from: seafoid on August 21, 2024, 09:23:26 PMTrans is the worst aspect of Wokeism.
In what aspect is it the worst?
Because it has conswruences in real life for girls and women. Trans is an attempt to replace reality.
And most of the women and Girls are their own worst enemies at giving up rights.
seafoid took a girl home one night who turned out to be a pre op transsexual and he has been spewing anti trans poison ever since
I think the whole trans stuff is a load of shite myself. These people are mentally ill in a lot of the cases.
The GAA board gynaecologists have spoken!!
Bunch o fannies
Quote from: samuel maguire on August 22, 2024, 10:30:12 AMI think the whole trans stuff is a load of shite myself. These people are mentally ill in a lot of the cases.
Me too but sure as long as they aren't doing any harm it wouldn't annoy me too much. If you want to start chopping bits off yourself and wearing dresses go for it.
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 22, 2024, 11:15:27 AMQuote from: samuel maguire on August 22, 2024, 10:30:12 AMI think the whole trans stuff is a load of shite myself. These people are mentally ill in a lot of the cases.
Me too but sure as long as they aren't doing any harm it wouldn't annoy me too much. If you want to start chopping bits off yourself and wearing dresses go for it.
didnt know you boys had degrees or any sort of expertise in the area of mental health.
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 22, 2024, 11:32:23 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 22, 2024, 11:15:27 AMQuote from: samuel maguire on August 22, 2024, 10:30:12 AMI think the whole trans stuff is a load of shite myself. These people are mentally ill in a lot of the cases.
Me too but sure as long as they aren't doing any harm it wouldn't annoy me too much. If you want to start chopping bits off yourself and wearing dresses go for it.
didnt know you boys had degrees or any sort of expertise in the area of mental health.
Honestly, on this matter I'd sooner trust the instincts and intuitions of the "unqualified".
Trans hasn't become normalised due to us reaching the next stage of human evolution. It has become normalised because it has been lobbied, marketed and monitised, through an industry that is given credence by mental health professionals.
The most disturbing thing though isn't that the industry exists. It's that people who in most other facets of life are pragmatic and logical, place mental health professionals on the same pedestal we used to place priests: ie they're the good guys, the incorruptibles.
That didn't turn out so well.
Quote from: thewobbler on August 22, 2024, 11:44:41 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 22, 2024, 11:32:23 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 22, 2024, 11:15:27 AMQuote from: samuel maguire on August 22, 2024, 10:30:12 AMI think the whole trans stuff is a load of shite myself. These people are mentally ill in a lot of the cases.
Me too but sure as long as they aren't doing any harm it wouldn't annoy me too much. If you want to start chopping bits off yourself and wearing dresses go for it.
didnt know you boys had degrees or any sort of expertise in the area of mental health.
Honestly, on this matter I'd sooner trust the instincts and intuitions of the "unqualified".
Trans hasn't become normalised due to us reaching the next stage of human evolution. It has become normalised because it has been lobbied, marketed and monitised, through an industry that is given credence by mental health professionals.
The most disturbing thing though isn't that the industry exists. It's that people who in most other facets of life are pragmatic and logical, place mental health professionals on the same pedestal we used to place priests: ie they're the good guys, the incorruptibles.
That didn't turn out so well.
I actually agree with you on all of this. Interesting to see how rapid these gender identity changes have been introduced/adopted. You're really only talking about a handful of years.
https://time.com/6275663/generation-z-gender-identity/
A handful of years?
Look up Lydia Foy.
Quote from: thewobbler on August 22, 2024, 11:44:41 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 22, 2024, 11:32:23 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 22, 2024, 11:15:27 AMQuote from: samuel maguire on August 22, 2024, 10:30:12 AMI think the whole trans stuff is a load of shite myself. These people are mentally ill in a lot of the cases.
Me too but sure as long as they aren't doing any harm it wouldn't annoy me too much. If you want to start chopping bits off yourself and wearing dresses go for it.
didnt know you boys had degrees or any sort of expertise in the area of mental health.
Honestly, on this matter I'd sooner trust the instincts and intuitions of the "unqualified".
Trans hasn't become normalised due to us reaching the next stage of human evolution. It has become normalised because it has been lobbied, marketed and monitised, through an industry that is given credence by mental health professionals.
The most disturbing thing though isn't that the industry exists. It's that people who in most other facets of life are pragmatic and logical, place mental health professionals on the same pedestal we used to place priests: ie they're the good guys, the incorruptibles.
That didn't turn out so well.
Define normal Wobbler
Any guardian mandating physical or chemicallly induced change in a minor as part of a transgender process should be proscuted to the full extent of the law.
Adults can make their own decisions but immature and developing young people should not have this option.
Quote from: JoG2 on August 22, 2024, 12:20:32 PMQuote from: thewobbler on August 22, 2024, 11:44:41 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 22, 2024, 11:32:23 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 22, 2024, 11:15:27 AMQuote from: samuel maguire on August 22, 2024, 10:30:12 AMI think the whole trans stuff is a load of shite myself. These people are mentally ill in a lot of the cases.
Me too but sure as long as they aren't doing any harm it wouldn't annoy me too much. If you want to start chopping bits off yourself and wearing dresses go for it.
didnt know you boys had degrees or any sort of expertise in the area of mental health.
Honestly, on this matter I'd sooner trust the instincts and intuitions of the "unqualified".
Trans hasn't become normalised due to us reaching the next stage of human evolution. It has become normalised because it has been lobbied, marketed and monitised, through an industry that is given credence by mental health professionals.
The most disturbing thing though isn't that the industry exists. It's that people who in most other facets of life are pragmatic and logical, place mental health professionals on the same pedestal we used to place priests: ie they're the good guys, the incorruptibles.
That didn't turn out so well.
Define normal Wobbler
Unfortunately that's the problem. If it's not their normal, then some people fear/despise/attack it. And I say that as someone with big question marks around transsexuals myself. But I give the majority the benefit of the doubt that they didn't choose their path and will suffer greatly compared to me and others for just living their life.
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 22, 2024, 12:59:13 PMQuote from: JoG2 on August 22, 2024, 11:27:28 AMQuote from: quit yo jibbajabba on August 22, 2024, 11:07:33 AMBunch o fannies
Maybe they're just having the crack?
Or not. All this stuff confuses me nowadays 😋
Definitely a topic best avoided, don't want to be splitting hairs with anyone
As Ted famously said "there are no chicks with dicks Johnny, only guys with tits".
Quote from: JoG2 on August 22, 2024, 12:20:32 PMQuote from: thewobbler on August 22, 2024, 11:44:41 AMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 22, 2024, 11:32:23 AMQuote from: Armagh18 on August 22, 2024, 11:15:27 AMQuote from: samuel maguire on August 22, 2024, 10:30:12 AMI think the whole trans stuff is a load of shite myself. These people are mentally ill in a lot of the cases.
Me too but sure as long as they aren't doing any harm it wouldn't annoy me too much. If you want to start chopping bits off yourself and wearing dresses go for it.
didnt know you boys had degrees or any sort of expertise in the area of mental health.
Honestly, on this matter I'd sooner trust the instincts and intuitions of the "unqualified".
Trans hasn't become normalised due to us reaching the next stage of human evolution. It has become normalised because it has been lobbied, marketed and monitised, through an industry that is given credence by mental health professionals.
The most disturbing thing though isn't that the industry exists. It's that people who in most other facets of life are pragmatic and logical, place mental health professionals on the same pedestal we used to place priests: ie they're the good guys, the incorruptibles.
That didn't turn out so well.
Define normal Wobbler
I didn't use the word normal. I used the word "normalised" i.e. an aspect of society that is widely accepted.
The amount of young - and i mean under 16 year olds i know from back home now looking to change sex is mental. I can think of at least 4/5 within same a 15 mile radius. All boys too - growing the hair long and dressing like women. I don't get it.
Surly a lot has to be from the iphones and the internet. They are seeing all this woke American shite on instagram, youtube and tiktok and thinking this is the norm. They are being brainwashed really
Quote from: samuel maguire on August 22, 2024, 01:19:09 PMThe amount of young - and i mean under 16 year olds i know from back home now looking to change sex is mental. I can think of at least 4/5 within same a 15 mile radius. All boys too - growing the hair long and dressing like women. I don't get it.
Surly a lot has to be from the iphones and the internet. They are seeing all this woke American shite on instagram, youtube and tiktok and thinking this is the norm. They are being brainwashed really
It's a form of mental ilness really.
Quote from: samuel maguire on August 22, 2024, 01:19:09 PMThe amount of young - and i mean under 16 year olds i know from back home now looking to change sex is mental. I can think of at least 4/5 within same a 15 mile radius. All boys too - growing the hair long and dressing like women. I don't get it.
Surly a lot has to be from the iphones and the internet. They are seeing all this woke American shite on instagram, youtube and tiktok and thinking this is the norm. They are being brainwashed really
But do you honestly believe that? I'm straight, and I could watch as much "woke sh!t" as you like, but that ain't ever going to make me like men. Or to want to change sex. I think there has to be a bit more to it than that. I honestly think that's an absurd take imo.
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 22, 2024, 01:24:51 PMQuote from: samuel maguire on August 22, 2024, 01:19:09 PMThe amount of young - and i mean under 16 year olds i know from back home now looking to change sex is mental. I can think of at least 4/5 within same a 15 mile radius. All boys too - growing the hair long and dressing like women. I don't get it.
Surly a lot has to be from the iphones and the internet. They are seeing all this woke American shite on instagram, youtube and tiktok and thinking this is the norm. They are being brainwashed really
But do you honestly believe that? I'm straight, and I could watch as much "woke sh!t" as you like, but that ain't ever going to make me like men. Or to want to change sex. I think there has to be a bit more to it than that. I honestly think that's an absurd take imo.
Its a perfect storm really. From my viewpoint these people seem to be loners too. I would hazard that these people are on some sort of spectrum and have some sort of mental illness and see the trans community as maybe something they can cling to and identify themselves with to cover up a more deep lying issue (sub consciously that is)
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 22, 2024, 12:57:19 PMAny guardian mandating physical or chemicallly induced change in a minor as part of a transgender process should be proscuted to the full extent of the law.
Adults can make their own decisions but immature and developing young people should not have this option.
Fully agree.
Here's an uncomfortable topic of discussion / conundrum for the "woke".
Why are paedophiles always and firmly denounced as evil people, marginalised from society and requested to change their behaviour?
Surely what it is that makes them attracted to children is fundamentally a mental health problem?
But rather than allowing them to pursue their feelings, we patrol and prevent them.
The reason for society doing this is, of course, obvious. Should a paedophile act on his impulses, it would have to be with a minor; therefore someone who is not mature enough to knowingly consent to the impulses of their pursuer.
Yet at the same time, we are allowing those same minors to chemically, physically and irrefutably pursue gender change, as a result of mental health issues.
This doesn't add up. Not even close.
Quote from: thewobbler on August 22, 2024, 01:30:44 PMQuote from: DuffleKing on August 22, 2024, 12:57:19 PMAny guardian mandating physical or chemicallly induced change in a minor as part of a transgender process should be proscuted to the full extent of the law.
Adults can make their own decisions but immature and developing young people should not have this option.
Fully agree.
Here's an uncomfortable topic of discussion / conundrum for the "woke".
Why are paedophiles always and firmly denounced as evil people, marginalised from society and requested to change their behaviour?
Surely what it is that makes them attracted to children is fundamentally a mental health problem?
But rather than allowing them to pursue their feelings, we patrol and prevent them.
The reason for society doing this is, of course, obvious. Should a paedophile act on his impulses, it would have to be with a minor; therefore someone who is not mature enough to knowingly consent to the impulses of their pursuer.
Yet at the same time, we are allowing those same minors to chemically, physically and irrefutably pursue gender change, as a result of mental health issues.
This doesn't add up. Not even close.
mental health issues according to you
Trying to equate paedophilia with trans people says a lot
Quote from: Cavan19 on August 22, 2024, 01:21:20 PMQuote from: samuel maguire on August 22, 2024, 01:19:09 PMThe amount of young - and i mean under 16 year olds i know from back home now looking to change sex is mental. I can think of at least 4/5 within same a 15 mile radius. All boys too - growing the hair long and dressing like women. I don't get it.
Surly a lot has to be from the iphones and the internet. They are seeing all this woke American shite on instagram, youtube and tiktok and thinking this is the norm. They are being brainwashed really
It's a form of mental ilness really.
Is that your medical opinion or just something you feel yourself?
Who cares what someone does, if its a fetish or a feeling that being in this body isn't for them and they feel more confident being whatever they chose to be.
Going down that road of being different from the rest is walking into a shit storm of hassle, and I can't see that its the easiest decision to make and stick with due to the judgement of others
People have been judging others from the start of time, my only concern is how mature or how much discussion goes on with people of a certain age, some people though show early on that they naturally come across different, others could well be interested in it due to social media.
People that are on the spectrum definitely view things differently and themselves, but we pass its off because its accepted and there is a diagnoses of it.
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 22, 2024, 01:34:43 PMQuote from: thewobbler on August 22, 2024, 01:30:44 PMQuote from: DuffleKing on August 22, 2024, 12:57:19 PMAny guardian mandating physical or chemicallly induced change in a minor as part of a transgender process should be proscuted to the full extent of the law.
Adults can make their own decisions but immature and developing young people should not have this option.
Fully agree.
Here's an uncomfortable topic of discussion / conundrum for the "woke".
Why are paedophiles always and firmly denounced as evil people, marginalised from society and requested to change their behaviour?
Surely what it is that makes them attracted to children is fundamentally a mental health problem?
But rather than allowing them to pursue their feelings, we patrol and prevent them.
The reason for society doing this is, of course, obvious. Should a paedophile act on his impulses, it would have to be with a minor; therefore someone who is not mature enough to knowingly consent to the impulses of their pursuer.
Yet at the same time, we are allowing those same minors to chemically, physically and irrefutably pursue gender change, as a result of mental health issues.
This doesn't add up. Not even close.
mental health issues according to you
Trying to equate paedophilia with trans people says a lot
I'm not equating it.
I'm pointing out the inherent conundrum in simultaneously housing these two opinions:
1. A 14 year old girl is not emotionally, physiologically or physically mature enough to consent to sexual advances from an adult male.
2. A 14 year old girl is emotionally, physiologically and physically mature enough to consent to a gender change.
Quote from: thewobbler on August 22, 2024, 01:45:31 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 22, 2024, 01:34:43 PMQuote from: thewobbler on August 22, 2024, 01:30:44 PMQuote from: DuffleKing on August 22, 2024, 12:57:19 PMAny guardian mandating physical or chemicallly induced change in a minor as part of a transgender process should be proscuted to the full extent of the law.
Adults can make their own decisions but immature and developing young people should not have this option.
Fully agree.
Here's an uncomfortable topic of discussion / conundrum for the "woke".
Why are paedophiles always and firmly denounced as evil people, marginalised from society and requested to change their behaviour?
Surely what it is that makes them attracted to children is fundamentally a mental health problem?
But rather than allowing them to pursue their feelings, we patrol and prevent them.
The reason for society doing this is, of course, obvious. Should a paedophile act on his impulses, it would have to be with a minor; therefore someone who is not mature enough to knowingly consent to the impulses of their pursuer.
Yet at the same time, we are allowing those same minors to chemically, physically and irrefutably pursue gender change, as a result of mental health issues.
This doesn't add up. Not even close.
mental health issues according to you
Trying to equate paedophilia with trans people says a lot
I'm not equating it.
I'm pointing out the inherent conundrum in simultaneously housing these two opinions:
1. A 14 year old girl is not emotionally, physiologically or physically mature enough to consent to sexual advances from an adult male.
2. A 14 year old girl is emotionally, physiologically and physically mature enough to consent to a gender change.
There are plenty of things that a 14 year old girl wouldn't ready for, you though have used pedophilia as an example though.
That I have done MR2. For it is the most visceral example of why we protect children until they're ready to make their own decisions in this world.
Quote from: samuel maguire on August 22, 2024, 01:28:36 PMQuote from: trueblue1234 on August 22, 2024, 01:24:51 PMQuote from: samuel maguire on August 22, 2024, 01:19:09 PMThe amount of young - and i mean under 16 year olds i know from back home now looking to change sex is mental. I can think of at least 4/5 within same a 15 mile radius. All boys too - growing the hair long and dressing like women. I don't get it.
Surly a lot has to be from the iphones and the internet. They are seeing all this woke American shite on instagram, youtube and tiktok and thinking this is the norm. They are being brainwashed really
But do you honestly believe that? I'm straight, and I could watch as much "woke sh!t" as you like, but that ain't ever going to make me like men. Or to want to change sex. I think there has to be a bit more to it than that. I honestly think that's an absurd take imo.
Its a perfect storm really. From my viewpoint these people seem to be loners too. I would hazard that these people are on some sort of spectrum and have some sort of mental illness and see the trans community as maybe something they can cling to and identify themselves with to cover up a more deep lying issue (sub consciously that is)
People can be wired differently, I'd 100% agree. But what deep lying issue might there be? Would it not be more likely that it's just the issue they are highlighting? I.e. gender dysphoria. Why do you not want to accept that this might actually be the reason (regardless of whether you think that's a mental illness or not).
Quote from: samuel maguire on August 22, 2024, 01:19:09 PMThe amount of young - and i mean under 16 year olds i know from back home now looking to change sex is mental. I can think of at least 4/5 within same a 15 mile radius. All boys too - growing the hair long and dressing like women. I don't get it.
Surly a lot has to be from the iphones and the internet. They are seeing all this woke American shite on instagram, youtube and tiktok and thinking this is the norm. They are being brainwashed really
Where abouts is back home Samuel?
Jesus give it a rest with the trans arguments lads - enough threads with people talking shite about it on them.
Back to the thread.
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Quote from: thewobbler on August 22, 2024, 02:13:32 PMThat I have done MR2. For it is the most visceral example of why we protect children until they're ready to make their own decisions in this world.
You are still equating the two. This just confirms it
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 22, 2024, 04:01:40 PMQuote from: thewobbler on August 22, 2024, 02:13:32 PMThat I have done MR2. For it is the most visceral example of why we protect children until they're ready to make their own decisions in this world.
You are still equating the two. This just confirms it
And I get a sense that you don't approve.
Which I guess means you're likely to use this malcontent as reason not to discuss the two in any form of parallel.
That would be a head in the sand stance. In my opinion.
Quote from: thewobbler on August 22, 2024, 04:14:39 PMQuote from: tonto1888 on August 22, 2024, 04:01:40 PMQuote from: thewobbler on August 22, 2024, 02:13:32 PMThat I have done MR2. For it is the most visceral example of why we protect children until they're ready to make their own decisions in this world.
You are still equating the two. This just confirms it
And I get a sense that you don't approve.
Which I guess means you're likely to use this malcontent as reason not to discuss the two in any form of parallel.
That would be a head in the sand stance. In my opinion.
No. I don't see any parallel between the two. I do see why you would be against young trans people getting any body altering treatments and I don't disagree with you there. What I would say, and this is only from things I have read, is that some older trans people have said they wish they had started earlier as by the time they started transitioning their body had gone through puberty and had male characteristics they could not change.
Quote from: JoG2 on August 22, 2024, 02:56:48 PMQuote from: samuel maguire on August 22, 2024, 01:19:09 PMThe amount of young - and i mean under 16 year olds i know from back home now looking to change sex is mental. I can think of at least 4/5 within same a 15 mile radius. All boys too - growing the hair long and dressing like women. I don't get it.
Surly a lot has to be from the iphones and the internet. They are seeing all this woke American shite on instagram, youtube and tiktok and thinking this is the norm. They are being brainwashed really
Where abouts is back home Samuel?
Thailand
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 22, 2024, 04:19:00 PMQuote from: JoG2 on August 22, 2024, 02:56:48 PMQuote from: samuel maguire on August 22, 2024, 01:19:09 PMThe amount of young - and i mean under 16 year olds i know from back home now looking to change sex is mental. I can think of at least 4/5 within same a 15 mile radius. All boys too - growing the hair long and dressing like women. I don't get it.
Surly a lot has to be from the iphones and the internet. They are seeing all this woke American shite on instagram, youtube and tiktok and thinking this is the norm. They are being brainwashed really
Where abouts is back home Samuel?
Thailand
:)
This thread is like something from Gript or some other right wing cesspit.
I don't claim to be an expert in gender realignment nor do I have any expertise in puberty blockers, but unless it directly affects you, what the f**k does it even matter?
I have friends who it does affect, they're going through a hard enough time with their child who wants to become male. They don't know why, all they know is that their child is miserable and is struggling. They have an older daughter who is what you'd call "normal" with a p/time job, bf etc, so it's not the parenting.
What would you do in that situation? Let your child continue self-harming and living a reclusive life or maybe explore what help is available?
Gript? Right wing cesspit?
It is now seemingly impossible to have a rational discussion about grey issues.
Everything has to be black or white. And if you're not fully on black, it's because you're fully on white. And vice versa.
If we can't fix this communications problem, then black gets a free run at their side, and white gets a free at their side. Meanwhile the world is doomed.
Can ye all just read General Lee's post and stop pontificating ?
Quote from: general_lee on August 23, 2024, 09:35:41 AMThis thread is like something from Gript or some other right wing cesspit.
I don't claim to be an expert in gender realignment nor do I have any expertise in puberty blockers, but unless it directly affects you, what the f**k does it even matter?
I have friends who it does affect, they're going through a hard enough time with their child who wants to become male. They don't know why, all they know is that their child is miserable and is struggling. They have an older daughter who is what you'd call "normal" with a p/time job, bf etc, so it's not the parenting.
What would you do in that situation? Let your child continue self-harming and living a reclusive life or maybe explore what help is available?
Because people are told over and over that it does matter, that's it a very important issue that affects everyone (mostly indirectly) ,oh, and the boats!
But you're right, and I see it in work everyday, why does it bother people who it doesn't affect? Such a waste of time / emotion.
And while I'm ranting, a couple of those other threads, by christ, the amount of time people have to continuously argue over stuff is mind blowing...
Life is short
'here lies' such and such', lived his best life arguing with strangers on the Internet. May he/she/they rest in peace
Quote from: thewobbler on August 23, 2024, 09:49:10 AMGript? Right wing cesspit?
It is now seemingly impossible to have a rational discussion about grey issues.
Everything has to be black or white. And if you're not fully on black, it's because you're fully on white. And vice versa.
If we can't fix this communications problem, then black gets a free run at their side, and white gets a free at their side. Meanwhile the world is doomed.
The name of the thread is a catch-all slur used against left ideology.
Quote from: JoG2 on August 23, 2024, 11:39:55 AMQuote from: general_lee on August 23, 2024, 09:35:41 AMThis thread is like something from Gript or some other right wing cesspit.
I don't claim to be an expert in gender realignment nor do I have any expertise in puberty blockers, but unless it directly affects you, what the f**k does it even matter?
I have friends who it does affect, they're going through a hard enough time with their child who wants to become male. They don't know why, all they know is that their child is miserable and is struggling. They have an older daughter who is what you'd call "normal" with a p/time job, bf etc, so it's not the parenting.
What would you do in that situation? Let your child continue self-harming and living a reclusive life or maybe explore what help is available?
Because people are told over and over that it does matter, that's it a very important issue that affects everyone (mostly indirectly) ,oh, and the boats!
But you're right, and I see it in work everyday, why does it bother people who it doesn't affect? Such a waste of time / emotion.
And while I'm ranting, a couple of those other threads, by christ, the amount of time people have to continuously argue over stuff is mind blowing...
Life is short
'here lies' such and such', lived his best life arguing with strangers on the Internet. May he/she/they rest in peace
so true. Yu see the news about young Finnegan from Cross and you wonder whats the point. Enjoy life folks. It's for living
Quote from: tonto1888 on August 23, 2024, 12:28:23 PMQuote from: JoG2 on August 23, 2024, 11:39:55 AMQuote from: general_lee on August 23, 2024, 09:35:41 AMThis thread is like something from Gript or some other right wing cesspit.
I don't claim to be an expert in gender realignment nor do I have any expertise in puberty blockers, but unless it directly affects you, what the f**k does it even matter?
I have friends who it does affect, they're going through a hard enough time with their child who wants to become male. They don't know why, all they know is that their child is miserable and is struggling. They have an older daughter who is what you'd call "normal" with a p/time job, bf etc, so it's not the parenting.
What would you do in that situation? Let your child continue self-harming and living a reclusive life or maybe explore what help is available?
Because people are told over and over that it does matter, that's it a very important issue that affects everyone (mostly indirectly) ,oh, and the boats!
But you're right, and I see it in work everyday, why does it bother people who it doesn't affect? Such a waste of time / emotion.
And while I'm ranting, a couple of those other threads, by christ, the amount of time people have to continuously argue over stuff is mind blowing...
Life is short
'here lies' such and such', lived his best life arguing with strangers on the Internet. May he/she/they rest in peace
so true. Yu see the news about young Finnegan from Cross and you wonder whats the point. Enjoy life folks. It's for living
Exactly.
None of that in Presbyterianism ::)
https://m.sundayworld.com/news/irish-news/church-minister-formally-rebuked-for-involvement-in-rte-pride-service/a2061028404.html